From owner-freebsd-small Mon Sep 20 12:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.sftw.com (guardian.sftw.com [209.157.37.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82C014BF8 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from yoda.sftw.com (yoda.sftw.com [209.157.37.177]) by guardian.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13151 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Received: from sftw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by yoda.sftw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00964 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@sftw.com) Message-ID: <37E68B3F.CE813F81@sftw.com> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:30:08 +0000 From: Nick Sayer Reply-To: nsayer@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: I'm sure I'm not the first... Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msFCBA4947814E8CB5D8B8B3A2" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msFCBA4947814E8CB5D8B8B3A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a coffee house near where I live. They have a bunch of Winterms, and they are really, really awful. They're pitifully slow, they crash a lot, etc. But they're free, so nobody complains much. I have always had in the back of my mind that if someone called upon me to provide them with a design for the Internet part of an Internet coffee house, I would know just what to do: Use the tricks of PicoBSD to make a kernel with an MFS root containing dhclient, the appropriate X server and its libraries and an init script that would use DHCP to set up IP and then run X broadcasting for an xdm host. This would probably be too big to fit on a floppy, so I would put it either into a bootable flash card or a CDROM (using MFSROOT instead of the CDROM would trade wear on the CD drive for RAM space. Besides, if a CD sits idle for a while, it spins down, then the next access takes many hundred ms for it to spin back up). It could even have a splash screen to hide the boot activities until X popped up. The server in the back room would be a beefy machine capable of serving all those X clients. It would offer Netscape, Java ICQ and AOL IM and a Telnet client. The only thing I would want to add would be a way to run AOL under WINE (the WinTerms allowed you to log in as a guest to AOL using your own login). Last time I tried this, it didn't work, but maybe WINE has progressed since then... But I digress. I am sure I'm not the first one to have thought of this. I see some reference on the web site for PicoBSD to the idea of making a sort of mini X desktop with a browser and what not, has anyone tried making _just_ an X terminal this way? --------------msFCBA4947814E8CB5D8B8B3A2 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIIcAYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIIYTCCCF0CAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC BhwwggLbMIICRKADAgECAgMBQOowDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwgbkxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUw EwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUxFDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMRowGAYDVQQKExFU aGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEpMCcGA1UECxMgVGhhd3RlIFBGIFJTQSBJSyAxOTk4LjkuMTYg MTc6NTUxNjA0BgNVBAMTLVRoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgSXNzdWVyIDE5 OTguOS4xNjAeFw05OTA4MTgxNzAxMzFaFw0wMDA4MTcxNzAxMzFaMFwxDjAMBgNVBAQTBVNh eWVyMREwDwYDVQQqEwhOaWNob2xhczEXMBUGA1UEAxMOTmljaG9sYXMgU2F5ZXIxHjAcBgkq hkiG9w0BCQEWD25zYXllckBzZnR3LmNvbTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEA zcenl3wCRQ4jtj4fFkMbXSt3zLHjqoJQrphXIHLz5Jc5DgLnxNjcNOpOT+I2kRn+1DB0oz23 0fX+M0mDYE6zVNYETeEaO5Kbn9hBGcodsSUbsDPnzeDP5DzIiwgjXQaMbO6QIwwbg01+PEiD zIk40Dg4DkVSurlMilN7vD8T88UCAwEAAaNNMEswGgYDVR0RBBMwEYEPbnNheWVyQHNmdHcu Y29tMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwHwYDVR0jBBgwFoAU/j5gnGuMD7DYM8bKxh5YsHE4teAwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAdqMzGTDJwhYq9MeCTP1CC8eDUVcBZ1QMvPqhzS23qNP+lIvVuVjB cfRJWrzDmYHL4ILaaeD6pHASkZtoBW2cDSC5bi2hu0dtwTAMHBDx0i573mUNGa0cWxFWHrA1 g7kOc8lY7TV9owLWIxFmNFxBPZyy0MPiPL7aFLBQH0I7o1QwggM5MIICoqADAgECAgEKMA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIw EAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQL Ex9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVy c29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRo YXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNOTgwOTE2MTc1NTM0WhcNMDAwOTE1MTc1NTM0WjCBuTELMAkGA1UEBhMC WkExFTATBgNVBAgTDFdlc3Rlcm4gQ2FwZTEUMBIGA1UEBxMLRHVyYmFudmlsbGUxGjAYBgNV BAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSkwJwYDVQQLEyBUaGF3dGUgUEYgUlNBIElLIDE5OTgu OS4xNiAxNzo1NTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIFJTQSBJc3N1 ZXIgMTk5OC45LjE2MIGfMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUAA4GNADCBiQKBgQDEpeXU1NBfCALuByF9 JL+ra44e6yAHAhWEa4/QkyQfG53uaLK5LE/pk2cXEBceoflDQSO5MKp2l7vz5/2BwLUxi/am UCZU8pUo6xmkHpcesOK4m8EEmjLQPAlsT+Q1T/B2vwATA09FCGDz/LTQkAGKEsmcun9S6iqT NTY8POQ1LwIDAQABozcwNTASBgNVHRMBAf8ECDAGAQH/AgEAMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFHJJwnM0 xlX0C3ZygX539IfnxrIOMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBACzHgh8BQz4Hj+5pXKlkgvjAlq2T K8ubUNdAmoHCuqZ2nTyVQNxVweFVgnmrCimm1QzhVyg+j/m71d8Nk1iqWy2LjzPk3VgVNXZy FSm9QvRakgt3X50n25otThuCBo7SjVa7ld7bDGUF3pWeAt1TF76+/GvDGiJ6FCthvcKfXnpa MYICHDCCAhgCAQEwgcEwgbkxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlpBMRUwEwYDVQQIEwxXZXN0ZXJuIENhcGUx FDASBgNVBAcTC0R1cmJhbnZpbGxlMRowGAYDVQQKExFUaGF3dGUgQ29uc3VsdGluZzEpMCcG A1UECxMgVGhhd3RlIFBGIFJTQSBJSyAxOTk4LjkuMTYgMTc6NTUxNjA0BgNVBAMTLVRoYXd0 ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBSU0EgSXNzdWVyIDE5OTguOS4xNgIDAUDqMAkGBSsOAwIa BQCggbEwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNOTkwOTIw MTkzMDEwWjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUX6ghqGz74fv38pM8JszJChjmdZUwUgYJKoZIhvcN AQkPMUUwQzAKBggqhkiG9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYIKoZIhvcN AwICAUAwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICASgwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAEgYBKRPxy/3v9XLXOYUwh5P5z juvjSZqttvyCqT/rCyC46zj5IMBIrakj/QtfqmOX8yLYRWTlK4e0DAG0ey1ocBDzS59MJuZs q3jFVqRERKlrU/Sz0BioStwMYorDoQuFnnAP5IBMLtHMYWkyhaiXjUaovGBVkqhWS57p8qQu 1iXI3A== --------------msFCBA4947814E8CB5D8B8B3A2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message