From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 10:37:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.naviant.com (mail.naviant.com [207.106.77.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F8EC15474 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:37:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgriffin@naviant.com) Received: from plato ([207.245.86.222]) by mail.naviant.com (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id NAA13490 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:37:13 -0400 (envelope-from lgriffin@naviant.com) From: "Lyndon Griffin" To: Subject: Status? Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:39:30 -0400 Message-ID: <001701bebcd6$2ef405c0$de01020a@naviant.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The list has been quiet... what is the status of the 32-bit (older) Sparc port? Is there one, anymore? If not, my roommate and I are ready to remedy the situation. Our current fully-available-for- development machines include: SPARCstation 5 (sun4m) SPARCstation 2 (sun4c) SPARCclassic (sun4m) SPARCstation 330 (sun4) <:) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBN2/KUe5NCgmMoSA2EQLylgCgs/sWAQU+6vkrb7AOdZQ7U7ulwdUAoIT5 jf/ejI+IAzBTUth1r06W4JVI =iUDW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 10:43:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netaccess.on.ca (alpha.netaccess.on.ca [199.243.225.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A38015555 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rob@ControlQ.com) Received: from fatlady.controlq.com (dial203.nas.net [199.243.225.203]) by alpha.netaccess.on.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA26675; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:42:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" To: Lyndon Griffin Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-Reply-To: <001701bebcd6$2ef405c0$de01020a@naviant.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure, but I don't think any work is being done on the 32 bit architectures, Sun pulled their support, and a group based in Italy seem to be working on the Ultra port -- but I haven't heard whether that effort has petered out or not ... :-{ On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Lyndon Griffin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > The list has been quiet... what is the status of the 32-bit (older) > Sparc port? Is there one, anymore? If not, my roommate and I are > ready to remedy the situation. Our current fully-available-for- > development machines include: > SPARCstation 5 (sun4m) > SPARCstation 2 (sun4c) > SPARCclassic (sun4m) > SPARCstation 330 (sun4) > > <:) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 > Charset: noconv > > iQA/AwUBN2/KUe5NCgmMoSA2EQLylgCgs/sWAQU+6vkrb7AOdZQ7U7ulwdUAoIT5 > jf/ejI+IAzBTUth1r06W4JVI > =iUDW > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robert S. Sciuk 1032 Howard Rd. PO Box 6A Ph:905 632-2466 Control-Q Research Burlington, Ont. Canada Fx:905 632-7417 rob@ControlQ.com L7R 3X5 http://www.ControlQ.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 10:48:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from pallas.veritas.com (pallas.veritas.com [204.177.156.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB07F153CF for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@sigma.veritas.com) Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA21795; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sigma.veritas.com([192.203.46.125]) (1570 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #3 built 1999-Jan-25) Received: from sigma (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sigma.veritas.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13548; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@sigma.veritas.com) Message-Id: <199906221747.KAA13548@sigma.veritas.com> From: Aaron Smith To: "Lyndon Griffin" Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:39:30 EDT." <001701bebcd6$2ef405c0$de01020a@naviant.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:47:50 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm definitely interested and i have plenty of sparc and ultrasparc hardware for testing, etc., as well. a friend of mine Scott MacFiggen (who has also recently joined this list) is also interested. obviously the path of least resistance is to leverage the NetBSD work, and Scott and I have been looking at their sources. is there anyone out there who has made actual progress on getting something to boot? aaron On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:39:30 EDT, "Lyndon Griffin" writes: >The list has been quiet... what is the status of the 32-bit (older) >Sparc port? Is there one, anymore? If not, my roommate and I are >ready to remedy the situation. Our current fully-available-for- >development machines include: > SPARCstation 5 (sun4m) > SPARCstation 2 (sun4c) > SPARCclassic (sun4m) > SPARCstation 330 (sun4) > ><:) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 10:56:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from charon.activesw.com (charon.activesw.com [205.158.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD01914FE6 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:56:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smf@activesw.com) Received: from godzilla.activesw.com (godzilla.activesw.com [199.2.18.14]) by charon.activesw.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23698 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from activesw.com (centrum.activesw.com [199.2.18.138]) by godzilla.activesw.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA29357 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:55:51 -0700 Message-ID: <376FCE90.FE9980E0@activesw.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:57:36 -0700 From: Scott MacFiggen Organization: Active Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Robert S. Sciuk" wrote: > > I'm not sure, but I don't think any work is being done on the 32 bit > architectures, Sun pulled their support, and a group based in Italy seem > to be working on the Ultra port -- but I haven't heard whether that effort > has petered out or not ... :-{ > What is this about Sun pulling support? I'm curious about the history on this. -Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 11:25:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netaccess.on.ca (alpha.netaccess.on.ca [199.243.225.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9058A153CF for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rob@ControlQ.com) Received: from fatlady.controlq.com (dial203.nas.net [199.243.225.203]) by alpha.netaccess.on.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA00784; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:25:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" Reply-To: "Robert S. Sciuk" To: Scott MacFiggen Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-Reply-To: <376FCE90.FE9980E0@activesw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Back in 1997, Jason Evans of Sun was allowed to work on a sanctioned port of FreeBSD to ultra sparc ... but as was inevitably the case, found the support flagged, and he had to focus on other activities ... he retired from active duty on the project, and it lay in limbo until a student in Italy, Paolo DeFrancesco, took a Quixotic run at the project ... as the list has been silent for some time on the matter, I consider it a closed issue, but that is JUST my opinion 8-}. Jordan Hubbard has made some very lucid statements regarding the difficulty of supporting multiple hardware platforms, as well as misrepresenting ones self as a representative of the FreeBSD project when asking hardware vendors for support (ie: don't). OpenBSD and NetBSD both work on 32 bit sparc ... I guess that's where we'll have to look for the near term. On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Scott MacFiggen wrote: > "Robert S. Sciuk" wrote: > > > > I'm not sure, but I don't think any work is being done on the 32 bit > > architectures, Sun pulled their support, and a group based in Italy seem > > to be working on the Ultra port -- but I haven't heard whether that effort > > has petered out or not ... :-{ > > > > What is this about Sun pulling support? I'm curious about the > history on this. > > -Scott > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robert S. Sciuk 1032 Howard Rd. PO Box 6A Ph:905 632-2466 Control-Q Research Burlington, Ont. Canada Fx:905 632-7417 rob@ControlQ.com L7R 3X5 http://www.ControlQ.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 11:37: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from charon.activesw.com (charon.activesw.com [205.158.31.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4738315400 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from smf@activesw.com) Received: from godzilla.activesw.com (godzilla.activesw.com [199.2.18.14]) by charon.activesw.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24376 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from activesw.com (centrum.activesw.com [199.2.18.138]) by godzilla.activesw.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA1305 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:36:24 -0700 Message-ID: <376FD810.FEDE7BEC@activesw.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:38:08 -0700 From: Scott MacFiggen Organization: Active Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Robert S. Sciuk" wrote: > OpenBSD and NetBSD both work on 32 bit sparc ... I guess that's where > we'll have to look for the near term. I see... Thanks for the info. The FAQ says Jason Evans tracked down a lot of documentation that outsiders wouldn't be able to get.. Did he ever post this info anywhere? -Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 12:39:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from fep01-svc.tin.it (mta01-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98271549A for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from harlock ([212.216.234.91]) by fep01-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990622193909.FTOA17743.fep01-svc@harlock>; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:39:09 +0200 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:45:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Status? Cc: rob@ControlQ.com References: <376FCE90.FE9980E0@activesw.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990622193909.FTOA17743.fep01-svc@harlock> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ... and it lay in limbo until a student in > Italy, Paolo DeFrancesco, took a Quixotic run at the project ... as the > list has been silent for some time on the matter, I consider it a closed > issue, but that is JUST my opinion 8-}. Just to explain, sorry if someone will not be pleasead by this message. I tried to organize the work. I made a list with every developer interested in the work (what he/she could do, hardware avaible, skills, etc.), and documents about the problems in developing on a new platform (what you need to start, where to start, which compiler to use, which books, etc.) Now I don't consider my past work "Quixotic". My opinion is "if you want to help developers, write docs how to do things". So this is why I tried to start writing docs. Sorry, but I don't see anything "Quixotic" in my past work. > Jordan Hubbard has made some very lucid statements regarding the > difficulty of supporting multiple hardware platforms, as well as About the kernel. My _personal_ opinion is kernel coding is easier with a one-package approach (linux). But this is _my_ opinion. My _personal_ idea was to start with a base (light?) kernel to play with. So conceptually you could start coding, to understand where the problems were. _Then_ (when ready to start serious coding) apply the ideas to the current tree. > misrepresenting ones self as a representative of the FreeBSD project when > asking hardware vendors for support (ie: don't). About the "please support us" topic. I asked _if_ Sun wanted to support us in this effort and if not why. It is too long explain the discussion, but the conclusion is "no, Sun will not support us, and don't ask". What I asked for were _docs_. If you need to write code, you need to know "how it works". > OpenBSD and NetBSD both work on 32 bit sparc ... I guess that's where > we'll have to look for the near term. About platforms. Personally, I'm not interested in Sparc32. If I'll spend time on sparc coding I'll do it on sparc64. If you are interested in sparc32 coding, do it. 8) Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 12:53:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netaccess.on.ca (alpha.netaccess.on.ca [199.243.225.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101C41552E for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rob@ControlQ.com) Received: from fatlady.controlq.com (dial203.nas.net [199.243.225.203]) by alpha.netaccess.on.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA08844; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:53:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert S. Sciuk" To: Paolo Di Francesco Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-Reply-To: <19990622193909.FTOA17743.fep01-svc@harlock> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry Paolo ... I guess I hadn't seen any traffic and just assumed that you'd graduated, and moved on ... 8-) Yours, humbled ... Pancho Sanza Cheers, Rob. On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > > ... and it lay in limbo until a student in > > Italy, Paolo DeFrancesco, took a Quixotic run at the project ... as the > > list has been silent for some time on the matter, I consider it a closed > > issue, but that is JUST my opinion 8-}. > > > Just to explain, sorry if someone will not be pleasead by this message. > > I tried to organize the work. I made a list with every developer > interested in the work (what he/she could do, hardware avaible, skills, > etc.), and documents about the problems in developing on a new platform > (what you need to start, where to start, which compiler to use, which > books, etc.) > > Now I don't consider my past work "Quixotic". My opinion is "if you want > to help developers, write docs how to do things". So this is why I tried > to start writing docs. > > Sorry, but I don't see anything "Quixotic" in my past work. > > > Jordan Hubbard has made some very lucid statements regarding the > > difficulty of supporting multiple hardware platforms, as well as > > About the kernel. My _personal_ opinion is kernel coding is easier with > a one-package approach (linux). But this is _my_ opinion. > > My _personal_ idea was to start with a base (light?) kernel to play > with. So conceptually you could start coding, to understand where the > problems were. _Then_ (when ready to start serious coding) apply the > ideas to the current tree. > > > misrepresenting ones self as a representative of the FreeBSD project when > > asking hardware vendors for support (ie: don't). > > About the "please support us" topic. I asked _if_ Sun wanted to support > us in this effort and if not why. It is too long explain the discussion, > but the conclusion is "no, Sun will not support us, and don't ask". > > What I asked for were _docs_. If you need to write code, you need to > know "how it works". > > > OpenBSD and NetBSD both work on 32 bit sparc ... I guess that's where > > we'll have to look for the near term. > > About platforms. Personally, I'm not interested in Sparc32. If I'll > spend time on sparc coding I'll do it on sparc64. > > If you are interested in sparc32 coding, do it. 8) touche' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robert S. Sciuk 1032 Howard Rd. PO Box 6A Ph:905 632-2466 Control-Q Research Burlington, Ont. Canada Fx:905 632-7417 rob@ControlQ.com L7R 3X5 http://www.ControlQ.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jun 22 13:39: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from bantu.cl.msu.edu (bantu.cl.msu.edu [35.8.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F93414CEE for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:39:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by bantu.cl.msu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19879; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:39:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:39:14 -0400 From: bush doctor To: Aaron Smith Cc: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status? Message-ID: <19990622163914.D11796@bantu.cl.msu.edu> References: <001701bebcd6$2ef405c0$de01020a@naviant.com> <199906221747.KAA13548@sigma.veritas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906221747.KAA13548@sigma.veritas.com>; from Aaron Smith on Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 10:47:50AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 35 95 F8 63 DA 5B 32 51 8F A9 AC 3C B4 74 F3 BA WWW-Home-Page: http://www.msu.edu/~ikhala Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Out of da blue Aaron Smith aka (aaron-fbsd@mutex.org) said: > i'm definitely interested and i have plenty of sparc and ultrasparc > hardware for testing, etc., as well. a friend of mine Scott MacFiggen (who > has also recently joined this list) is also interested. > > obviously the path of least resistance is to leverage the NetBSD work, and > Scott and I have been looking at their sources. is there anyone out there > who has made actual progress on getting something to boot? Check the mailing list archives. I believe Wes Peters and or Alfred Perlstein(sp?) had actually gotten some of the FBSD toolchain to build under NetBSD-sparc. > > aaron > > On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:39:30 EDT, "Lyndon Griffin" writes: > >The list has been quiet... what is the status of the 32-bit (older) > >Sparc port? Is there one, anymore? If not, my roommate and I are > >ready to remedy the situation. Our current fully-available-for- > >development machines include: > > SPARCstation 5 (sun4m) > > SPARCstation 2 (sun4c) > > SPARCclassic (sun4m) > > SPARCstation 330 (sun4) > > > ><:) > #:^) -- So ya want ta here da roots? 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IF you no longer wish to receive our Exclusive Newsletter containing critical updates to your Career data and other offers from Lexington Who's Who simply goto the following website to be removed. http://www.lexingtonwhoswho.net/remove.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 0:58:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBAD114F1C for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA20478; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Aaron Smith Cc: Lyndon Griffin , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-Reply-To: <199906221747.KAA13548@sigma.veritas.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > i'm definitely interested and i have plenty of sparc and ultrasparc > hardware for testing, etc., as well. a friend of mine Scott MacFiggen (who > has also recently joined this list) is also interested. > > obviously the path of least resistance is to leverage the NetBSD work, and > Scott and I have been looking at their sources. is there anyone out there > who has made actual progress on getting something to boot? ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/ -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 2: 5:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from pallas.veritas.com (pallas.veritas.com [204.177.156.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03B714D6E for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@sigma.veritas.com) Received: from megami.veritas.com (megami.veritas.com [192.203.46.101]) by pallas.veritas.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA10389; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sigma.veritas.com([192.203.46.125]) (1594 bytes) by megami.veritas.com via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #3 built 1999-Jan-25) Received: from sigma (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sigma.veritas.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA18542; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaron@sigma.veritas.com) Message-Id: <199906230905.CAA18542@sigma.veritas.com> From: Aaron Smith To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Lyndon Griffin , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:59:52 CDT." Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:05:20 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org excellent, thank you! i want to mention for others' benefit that i found the original site to be a lot faster than the .de mirror: ftp://janus.baldcom.net/pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/ aaron On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:59:52 CDT, Alfred Perlstein writes: >On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Aaron Smith wrote: > >> i'm definitely interested and i have plenty of sparc and ultrasparc >> hardware for testing, etc., as well. a friend of mine Scott MacFiggen (who >> has also recently joined this list) is also interested. >> >> obviously the path of least resistance is to leverage the NetBSD work, and >> Scott and I have been looking at their sources. is there anyone out there >> who has made actual progress on getting something to boot? > >ftp://ftp7.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/ > >-Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 10: 5:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from fep04-svc.tin.it (mta04-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E7214F60 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from harlock ([212.216.237.24]) by fep04-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990623170534.EIGU9116.fep04-svc@harlock>; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:05:34 +0200 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: Aaron Smith Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:12:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Status? Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199906230905.CAA18542@sigma.veritas.com> References: Your message of "Wed, 23 Jun 1999 02:59:52 CDT." X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990623170534.EIGU9116.fep04-svc@harlock> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > excellent, thank you! i want to mention for others' benefit that i found > the original site to be a lot faster than the .de mirror: > > ftp://janus.baldcom.net/pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/ > Can someone explain what is the package in /pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/incoming/for_green/solaris.x86.2.6 Thank you. 8) Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 19:11:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553CD1516F for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id TAA17103; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id TAA02025; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:10:30 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA26371; Wed, 23 Jun 99 19:10:27 PDT Message-Id: <37719392.422E45CF@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:10:26 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Scott MacFiggen Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? References: <376FCE90.FE9980E0@activesw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott MacFiggen wrote: > > "Robert S. Sciuk" wrote: > > > > I'm not sure, but I don't think any work is being done on the 32 bit > > architectures, Sun pulled their support, and a group based in Italy seem > > to be working on the Ultra port -- but I haven't heard whether that effort > > has petered out or not ... :-{ > > > > What is this about Sun pulling support? I'm curious about the > history on this. A couple of years ago, there was a guy at Sun Microelectronics who was going to work full-time on porting FreeBSD to the UltraSPARC AXi board. After a couple of months, he got yanked off and given another job within Sun. A few months later Sun announced support for Linux. The last I heard, the "group" (one person, actually) in Italy was planning to ask Sun for some hardware. It did not seem likely Sun would be interested in the offer. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 19:12:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910EF151B1 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:12:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id TAA17116; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id TAA02053; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:12:02 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA26444; Wed, 23 Jun 99 19:12:01 PDT Message-Id: <377193F0.2B1F40EB@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:12:00 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Scott MacFiggen Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? References: <376FD810.FEDE7BEC@activesw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott MacFiggen wrote: > > "Robert S. Sciuk" wrote: > > OpenBSD and NetBSD both work on 32 bit sparc ... I guess that's where > > we'll have to look for the near term. > > I see... Thanks for the info. > > The FAQ says Jason Evans tracked down a lot of documentation that > outsiders wouldn't be able to get.. Did he ever post this info > anywhere? Sun doesn't have documentation outsiders wouldn't be able to get, for the most part. Finding it and paying for it are separate issues. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jun 23 19:15:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005F2151AA for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id TAA17124; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id TAA02080; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:14:19 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA26536; Wed, 23 Jun 99 19:14:17 PDT Message-Id: <37719478.C299CA42@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:14:16 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: bush doctor Cc: Aaron Smith , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? References: <001701bebcd6$2ef405c0$de01020a@naviant.com> <199906221747.KAA13548@sigma.veritas.com> <19990622163914.D11796@bantu.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org bush doctor wrote: > > Check the mailing list archives. I believe Wes Peters and or Alfred Perlstein(sp?) > had actually gotten some of the FBSD toolchain to build under NetBSD-sparc. Alfred built it, and I confirmed that it would run on my IPX. I assume it's still loaded on the disk somewhere, since I haven't removed it. ;^) I have NetBSD-SPARC running on my SPARCstation 5 at work now, too. It's a nice system, much faster than Slowlaris. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jun 24 0:59:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from cygnus.rush.net (cygnus.rush.net [209.45.245.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270BC14DD5 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@rush.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by cygnus.rush.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA29764; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Wes Peters Cc: bush doctor , Aaron Smith , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status? In-Reply-To: <37719478.C299CA42@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > bush doctor wrote: > > > > Check the mailing list archives. I believe Wes Peters and or Alfred Perlstein(sp?) > > had actually gotten some of the FBSD toolchain to build under NetBSD-sparc. > > Alfred built it, and I confirmed that it would run on my IPX. I assume > it's still loaded on the disk somewhere, since I haven't removed it. ;^) wait a sec, I got no such email from you :P this motivates me a lot, as soon as i'm done with restructuring the wintel's systems and the 3 coding projects they have me on I'll get back to it. I thought I was just stumbling along blindly, making a cross platform gcc compile on freebsd isn't very easy. > > I have NetBSD-SPARC running on my SPARCstation 5 at work now, too. > It's a nice system, much faster than Slowlaris. yeah, but if you put 64 processors in it Slowlaris will blow netbsd away! Cool to know I was at least on the right track, mainly the problems I'm having is that I have a 170e instead of a 170 (the scsi and ethernet aren't supported) plus the configuration files netbsd uses are a bit difficult to figure out for someone who hsan't done this sort of stuff before. "dammit Jim, i'm a TASM weenie, not John Birrel!" :) -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|bright@wintelcom.net] systems administrator and programmer Win Telecom - http://www.wintelcom.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jun 25 5:12:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E02214BDD for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from heinig@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3869) with ESMTP id <01JCTJAKSVK000014C@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:12:41 +0200 Received: from teefax.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de (hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de) [137.226.126.32] by postfix.hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10xUpv-00069B-00; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:12:03 +0200 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:12:49 +0200 From: heinig Subject: SS10 infos... where? To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Message-id: <37737240.9BFAE4A4@hdz-ima.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Institute for Computer Science in Mechanical Engineering MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: de,nl Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have a twin CPU Sparc 10 at home and am definitely interested in a FreeBSD port to Sparc. "Interested" as in "would like to help" :-) IŽd like to make a start by reading up on the SS10 internals - the only thing I know anything much about is the actual CPU and even that knowledge is rather sparse. What IŽd like info on is stuff like the system architecture, interrupt controllers, SCSI chips, info on SBUS and so on. I suppose the obvious answer is "from SUN"... yes, ok, but where, exactly? Any pointers much appreciated Gerald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message