From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 00:07:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21347 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21335 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:06:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA15599; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:06:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902070806.DAA15599@miris.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: Subject: RE: Naming branches Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 03:06:34 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <199902070135.RAA02044@dingo.cdrom.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Whining is not, never has been, and never will be useful. Please > consider how you can direct your efforts towards helping the > >Project. Funny, I thought I _was_ trying to help the project. I made, what I thought, was a simple suggestion that I thought might help a lot of people. As I don't have much time these days to do any development for FreeBSD (a fact I very much regret BTW), I thought at least I could contribute an idea. I apologize to anyone who felt I was whining about the state of affairs. I was just trying to use myself as a case in point. I thought, since this is a volunteer effort, that people should feel it was their place, indeed their responsibily, to contribute however they could. I didn't have any bug reports to submit or code to donate, so I donated a thought. My only concern was for the future of the project. In the future, I'll try to be less concerned. -Ben Greenwald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 00:32:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23178 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:32:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23172 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d2-10.nidlink.com [216.18.131.65]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA15229 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:32:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36BD5017.61683D63@nidlink.com> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:34:31 -0800 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world error References: <36BD4843.2751D0DE@nidlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since it errored out so quickly I just ran make install and reinstalled my previous world.. Everything is ok now, I still do not know what caused the error to occur. but it is gone now.. If anyone knows what caused the error, please let me know so I can prevent it from happening again (at this point I am pretty sure it is user error) Thanks in advance.. Shawn Workman wrote: > > I just cvsup'd RELENG_3 at 23:20 PST and ran 'make world' (I am already > ELF', and it errored out within a minute or so. > > Here is the typescript: > > Script started on Sat Feb 6 23:51:20 1999 > hal# make world > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> elf make world started on Sat Feb 6 23:51:26 PST 1999 > -------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 01:14:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA28197 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:14:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28188 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:d2iK3V3yVgVWiFN+kDMwn2Cy8+/+k/L+@greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA02935; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:14:00 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (IDENT:0Xr9BTqQj70V7eFxMmHf4mM84OTgm/mM@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA43322; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:13:56 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@greenpeace.grondar.za) Message-Id: <199902070913.LAA43322@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: "Benjamin Greenwald" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Naming branches In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:06:34 EST." <199902070806.DAA15599@miris.lcs.mit.edu> References: <199902070806.DAA15599@miris.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:13:55 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Benjamin Greenwald" wrote: > My only concern was for the future of the project. In the future, I'll try > to be less concerned. Sarcasm is unlikely to help anyone. If you got a little less confrontational, and a little less defensive, it is very likely that more people will listen to you. Remember, what the project needs a _lot_ of is volunteers contributing bug reports, bug fixes and _code_. There are very many users out there with cute ideas and no implementation plan, compared with the relatively small number of developers who do the actual work in their _free_time_. Your concern for the project can best be implemented as "real work", rather than "chirping from the sideline". Ideas are like @$$holes, everybody has one, and nobody is interested in the next guy's. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 01:30:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29682 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29677 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04669 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:30:36 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25895 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:31:43 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902070931.MAA25895@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Dedicated disk and boot manager X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:31:42 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I've installed 3.0-STABLE, partitioning disk as "dedicated", and have some troubles with boot manager. When the disk is second IDE, boot manager (the FreeBSD's BootEasy) doesn't prompt me for second disk. When it is first, all attempts to install BootEasy on it didn't result in anything working :-( What could I have done wrong? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ΑΒ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 02:14:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03737 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:14:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (196-31-98-15.iafrica.com [196.31.98.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03730 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA09163; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:12:25 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199902071012.MAA09163@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: Dedicated disk and boot manager In-Reply-To: <199902070931.MAA25895@shuttle.svib.ru> from Alex Povolotsky at "Feb 7, 99 12:31:42 pm" To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:12:22 +0200 (SAT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > I've installed 3.0-STABLE, partitioning disk as "dedicated", and have some > troubles with boot manager. > > When the disk is second IDE, boot manager (the FreeBSD's BootEasy) doesn't prompt me > for second disk. When it is first, all attempts to install BootEasy on it > didn't result in anything working :-( > > What could I have done wrong? By "dedicated", I assume you mean what FreeBSD calls "dangerously dedicated". This way of doing things simply does not work with boot managers. What does fdisk(8) report about the disk? -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 02:22:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04613 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elfie.demon.co.uk (elfie.demon.co.uk [158.152.39.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA04604 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 02:22:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neil@elfie.demon.co.uk) Received: (qmail 943 invoked by uid 501); 7 Feb 1999 10:20:06 -0000 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:20:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Neil Groeber To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990206091430.009b99b0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Chris Knight wrote: > Definatly not a waste of bandwidth. It is possible to upgrade to > 3.0-stable right now, just not extremely easy. This URL was posted after > Jordan's message about upgrading, and I am plannning on using these > instructions to upgrade one of my boxes this weekend: > > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html > > -ck I managed to upgrade the machine with the information in the UPGRADE file in /usr/src (thanks to Daniel C. Sobral for reminding me to read the doc's properly) and with Kazutaka YOKOTA's sc_update.txt, but I'll look at your webpage to see if you did it an easier way. Neil. -- --------------------------------------------------- Neil Groeber neil@elfie.co.uk IRC_Nick Snudger LINUX OR FREEBSD - INSIDE 'N' WINDOWS IN THE TRASH AMD - INSIDE, INTEL OUTSIDE "Life, don't talk to me about life!" -- Marvin the paranoid android --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 04:20:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20655 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:20:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20614 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chemtechweb@psn.net) Received: from 1-21.phx.psn.net ([209.63.50.149] helo=psn.net) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.10 #1) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id 109TBx-0002bF-00; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:20:01 -0700 Message-ID: <36BD854A.E0E2713F@psn.net> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 05:21:30 -0700 From: Emmanuel Gravel Reply-To: chemtechweb@psn.net Organization: Orbit Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world fail after cvsup References: <36BC3A20.8ADA79AF@psn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Emmanuel Gravel wrote: > > I've just tried to upgrade from 2.2.7 release (from CD's) to 3.0 > stable by cvsupping the whole source tree. [...] Here's the final > error message when rebuilding the bootstrap binaries: > > /usr/src/lib/csu/1386-elf/crtbegin.c:30 attributes not supported > for this target > /usr/src/lib/csu/1386-elf/crtbegin.c:31 attributes not supported > for this target The message that helped me the most with this is: > Definatly not a waste of bandwidth. It is possible to upgrade to > 3.0-stable right now, just not extremely easy. This URL was posted > after Jordan's message about upgrading, and I am plannning on using > these instructions to upgrade one of my boxes this weekend: > > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html Now if only I could get X-Windows to work... Having problems with ld.so right now... Manu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 04:24:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21277 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:24:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from blodwen.watching.org (blodwen.demon.co.uk [158.152.26.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21263 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrg@blodwen.demon.co.uk) Received: from renard.watching.org [193.37.42.76] by blodwen.watching.org with smtp (Exim 1.62 #4) id 109T73-0001dj-00; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:14:57 +0000 Received: from jrg by renard.watching.org with local (Exim 1.62 #1) id 109TFF-0001yl-00; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:23:25 +0000 From: jrg@blodwen.demon.co.uk (James R Grinter) X-Subliminal: H is for Hypertext X-URL: http://www.blodwen.demon.co.uk/~jrg/ Organization: People's Front Against WWW To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? References: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> Date: 07 Feb 1999 12:23:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: Benjamin Gavin's message of Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:16:25 -0600 Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Benjamin Gavin writes: > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I am > interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major problems. > Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right direction? I'm using the ISC 2.x client ('dhclient'), along with a PCMCIA ethernet card on a Thinkpad. It sometimes takes away the default route, and it's not quite working smoothly yet for resumes, but if I get to the bottom of what's going on (and I'm going to go look in the mailing list archives, shortly) I'll let you know. James. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 05:55:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29639 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:55:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29600 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA18531 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:54:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA03930 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:54:56 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28908 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:54:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:54:52 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Rico Pajarola Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Message-ID: <19990207145452.A9929@internal> References: <3.0.32.19990206181103.008afb70@shrike.overmind.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990206181103.008afb70@shrike.overmind.ch>; from Rico Pajarola on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 06:15:05PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 06-Feb-1999 at 18:15:05 +0100, Rico Pajarola wrote: > >Why not wipe it out, then ? Is there any advantage ? > Because I am using it all the time, and yes it has it's advantages. > > I had no problems so far, except on Compaq's and HP's on which it don't > work at all. I've not come across any other machines that don't work (and Just to add it for reference: Machines from our company (Siemens) also don't work with dangerously dedicated disks :-( They have a thing called Phoenix BIOS and I have got plenty of them... Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have problems with it... -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 07:41:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08499 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:41:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou4-10.flex.net [207.18.136.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08494 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id JAA73126; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:41:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:41:12 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: thevapors Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: *Make All Install* Message-ID: <19990207094112.L11699@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <36BE3CEA.47815019@reportz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <36BE3CEA.47815019@reportz.net>; from thevapors on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 08:24:59PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 7, 1999, thevapors put this into my mailbox: > I just cvsupped to 3.0-stable with elf. Everything runs pretty well > except for one last thing... > > When I type: > > # cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall > # make all install > > This is the error message I get: > > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/src/release/sysinstall > cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog > -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys > -DUC_PRIVATE -DKERN_NO_SYMBOLS -static -o sysinstall anonFTP.o > cdrom.o command.o config.o devices.o kget.o disks.o dispatch.o dist.o > dmenu.o doc.o dos.o floppy.o ftp.o globals.o index.o install.o > installUpgrade.o keymap.o label.o lndir.o main.o makedevs.o media.o > menus.o misc.o mouse.o msg.o network.o nfs.o options.o package.o > register.o system.o tape.o tcpip.o termcap.o ufs.o user.o variable.o > wizard.o -ldialog -lncurses -lmytinfo -lutil -ldisk -lftpio > command.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized > *** Error code 1 > > ------------------------------- > > Does anyone have any clue what is wrong? Please send me an email back > if you have any clues at all on what I could do to get it working, or if > you need more information just drop me an email. try: make clean all install > > > Thanks alot! > Bill Rollins > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 07:45:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08777 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:45:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebase.sitaranetworks.com (freebase.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA08768 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 07:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@loverso.southborough.ma.us) Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (loverso.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.107]) by freebase.sitaranetworks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01205 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from loverso.southborough.ma.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by loverso.southborough.ma.us (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA18540 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:44:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902071544.KAA18540@loverso.southborough.ma.us> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Message from Andre Albsmeier <19990207145452.A9929@internal> . X-Face: "UZ!}1W2N?eJdN(`1%|/OOPqJ).Idk?UyvWw'W-%`Gto8^IkEm>.g1O$[.;~}8E=Ire0|lO .o>:NlJS1@vO9bVmswRoq3j DdX9YGSeJ5a(mfX[1u>Z63G5_^+'8LVqjqvn X-Url: http://surf.to/loverso Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:44:59 -0500 From: John Robert LoVerso Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Why not wipe it out, then ? Is there any advantage ? It can always be used for non-boot disks regardless of BIOS. One problem that bit me in the past (before I understood dangerously dedicated disks), is that sysinstall will let you create a one, and then offer to add a boot manager to it. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 08:04:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10656 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:04:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ppc1.cybertime.ch (ppc1.cybertime.ch [194.191.120.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10635 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pajarola@cybertime.ch) Received: from tiamat.dlc.cybertime.ch (tiamat.dlc.cybertime.ch [194.191.120.143]) by ppc1.cybertime.ch (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA12548; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:04:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> X-Sender: pajarola@shrike.overmind.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:04:30 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rico Pajarola Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Cc: Andre Albsmeier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 14:54 99.02.07 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: >Just to add it for reference: Machines from our company (Siemens) also don't >work with dangerously dedicated disks :-( They have a thing called Phoenix >BIOS and I have got plenty of them... > >Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have >problems with it... Most of these well known names have their own, 'improved' BIOS. They do more sanity checks on everything, which in some rare cases can make life easier and 'safer', but in most cases they are a nuisance. There are other ways to get problems with a Compaq BIOS than DD, eg a brand new unpartitioned disk :( there are ways around those problems, but it can be a real nuisance even if you're just installing win95 (as if win95 alone wasn't enough of a nuisance) So if it doesn't work, it's not because DD is a bad (or wrong) thing, but the BIOS checks for something it just should not check (ie it should only look at the signature on the master boot record, and if it is ok, it should load it without any further tests). Those 'well known' names should fix their broken BIOSes, as they've always caused problems with non-dos (=fat16) OSes (yes, even win95b with fat32 was a problem with some vendors BIOS). You've been warned that DD may not work for you, and no one foces you to use it. You know which BIOSes are likely not to work with it, and there actually are cases where it can make one's life easier :) Sorry if this was a bit too loud, but I just don't want to see DD go away. Rico -- An NT server can be run by an idiot, and usually is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 08:27:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12740 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:27:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from salmon.hei.net (salmon.hei.net [209.222.163.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12729 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:27:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@hei.net) Received: from trout (hst-trout.hei.net [209.222.163.131]) by salmon.hei.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA24629 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:27:01 -0800 (PST) From: "John A. Hengstler" To: Subject: **BREAKAGE make aout-to-elf-build Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:33:40 -0800 Message-ID: <000601be52b7$9ec4e830$83a3ded1@trout.heicomm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have done the following build 3 times and get the same results: cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libmd -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/ include -c md5hl.c -o md5hl.So building shared library libmd.so.2 install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libmd/md2.h /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libmd/md4.h /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libmd/md5.h /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/include install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libmd.a /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libmd.so.2 /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib ln -sf libmd.so.2 /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/libmd.so cd /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo; make all; make -B install cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libmytinfo -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/i nclude -c /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/addstr.c -o addstr.o cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libmytinfo -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/i nclude -c /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/readcaps.c -o readcaps.o cc -static -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/libmytinfo -I/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/t mp/usr/include -o mkcaplist /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/mkcaplist.c readcaps.o ./mkcaplist -n 1000 /usr/src/lib/libmytinfo/cap_list > caplist.c Segmentation fault - core dumped *** Error code 139 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I also get the following in my messages log: pid 24266 (mkcaplist), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Please HELP! John Hengstler HEI Communications To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 10:00:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22272 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from miris.lcs.mit.edu (miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22261 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:00:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beng@lcs.mit.edu) Received: from alnitak (root@miris.lcs.mit.edu [18.111.0.89]) by miris.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00673; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:00:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902071800.NAA00673@miris.lcs.mit.edu> From: "Benjamin Greenwald" To: "Mark Murray" Cc: Subject: RE: Naming branches Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:00:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <199902070913.LAA43322@greenpeace.grondar.za> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Murray [mailto:mark@grondar.za] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 4:14 AM > To: Benjamin Greenwald > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Naming branches > > > > Sarcasm is unlikely to help anyone. > > If you got a little less confrontational, and a little less defensive, > it is very likely that more people will listen to you. Actually, of all the mailings that have been sent out on this subject, I think mine was the least confrontational. I was simply trying to state how I felt about the tendency of the people in this project to discount new ideas as complaints and to discount users who aren't also developers. After all, it is the common users that choose to become the developers. If they end up feeling burned by FreeBSD, they aren't likely to choose to donate to it. They'll just order their free copy of Solaris. At least they'll have someone to call with their problems that won't talk down to them. -Ben Greenwald To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 11:17:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00275 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:17:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from medianstrip.net (chlojolo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.145.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00264 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:17:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@medianstrip.net) Received: from mike.medianstrip.net (mike.medianstrip.net [10.0.0.3]) by medianstrip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for id 8521F14AFB; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by mike.medianstrip.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D3AE36C7; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:17:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:17:12 -0500 From: mike ryan To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP Client?? Message-ID: <19990207141712.A781@medianstrip.net> References: <4.1.19990205161516.00b86760@mail.supranet.net> <19990206234418.A13258@tolstoy.mpd.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990206234418.A13258@tolstoy.mpd.ca>; from William Lloyd on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 11:44:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on Feb 6, William Lloyd wrote: > On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 07:13:10PM -0700, Brett Taylor wrote: > > Benjamin wrote: > > > Has anyone gotten a DHCP client up and running under 3.0-STABLE. I > > > am interested in getting it setup, but I have heard there are major > > > problems. Anyone here have it functioning or can point me in the right > > > direction? > > I just installed isc-dhcp2 from the ports collection and ran it. -shrug- > > I'm also using DHPC now. I have one machine running the isc-dhcp2 server > on 2 interfaces and the wide-dhcp client on still another interface. > > I found that the isc-dhcp client has a bug and resets both interfaces even > if you only want one. The mailing lists refer to a patch I never found. i mailed the dhcp maintainer (mellon@hoffman.vix.com) about this and another minor bug back in june of '98 (with a url for the patch no less) and was told the bugs were fixed in 3.0 and he didn't have time to port the fixes back to 2.0. as far as i know, 3.0 still isn't available. heck, 2.0 is still in beta. haven't tried it yet, but it looks like the most recent beta release (10) includes code to initialize only the requested interfaces. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 11:48:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04335 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:48:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles235.castles.com [208.214.165.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04325 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:48:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06886; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902071944.LAA06886@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dedicated disk and boot manager In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:31:42 +0300." <199902070931.MAA25895@shuttle.svib.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:44:32 -0800 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA04331 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello! > > I've installed 3.0-STABLE, partitioning disk as "dedicated", and have some > troubles with boot manager. > > When the disk is second IDE, boot manager (the FreeBSD's BootEasy) doesn't prompt me > for second disk. When it is first, all attempts to install BootEasy on it > didn't result in anything working :-( > > What could I have done wrong? Used the 'dedicated' mode. Don't Do That. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 12:30:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09808 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:30:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles235.castles.com [208.214.165.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09801 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:30:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07134; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:26:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902072026.MAA07134@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rico Pajarola cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:04:30 +0100." <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:26:28 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have > >problems with it... ... > So if it doesn't work, it's not because DD is a bad (or wrong) thing, but Even though it is a bad (and wrong) thing. > the BIOS checks for something it just should not check (ie it should only > look at the signature on the master boot record, and if it is ok, it should > load it without any further tests). This is actually exactly the problem; they *do* read the MBR, and they *do* trust it, and because the DD MBR *is* broken, these BIOSsen fail. > Sorry if this was a bit too loud, but I just don't want to see DD go away. It will go away as soon as someone puts on their toxic-waste suit and wades into libdisk to fix its geometry-extraction code. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 13:03:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14134 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14128; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:03:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06710; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:03:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BDFF9B.237C228A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 16:03:23 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Reboot died and /usr cannot be mounted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I followed the instruction from recommended pointers to upgrade to -stable. Everything compiled. But, when I finished compling a new kernel and reboot from it, it died at the phase: doing initial network setup: hostname. I shut down the computer coldly and dropped to single usr mode. But mount -a -t ufs did not work. I cannot access /usr. Is there any thing I can do? Why it died? Thanks, --Xiaowei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 13:08:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14598 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14593 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA11559 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:18:45 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902072118.PAA11559@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: syscons.o crashes kernel build To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:18:45 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD stabilizers, Starting from 2.2.8, I have been trying to get to 3.0-stable. Using /stand/sysinstall, I 'upgraded' to the smallest 3.0 system to get the binaries. I downloaded the port-current and unpacked them. I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup to make all install. The cvsup install kindly noticed that my X11R6 was out of date, and updated it to 3.3.3; this was something I needed. I did a cvsup with cvs tag=RELENG_3 ( I also tried =. with the same result below) I performed a 'make world' which seemed to finish okay. [ This is not my main trouble report, but when I rebooted, I could not log in, as all my passwords were rejected. Readonly inspection of /etc/master.passwd revealed no visible problems. /stand/sysinstall would not let me set the root password unless I performed a minimal binary install again. This I did, and I had to delete my users from master.passwd and adduser them again. Luckily, there weren't too many yet, and now I can reboot and log in. ] NOW THE TROUBLE STARTS When I try to build a new kernel, the build crashes with references to syscons.o [ see APPENDIX below for screen dump ] I notice that this is coincident with the first paragraph of /usr/src/UPDATING, which says syscons is being reworked. I did the recommended 'make clean', which did not help. MY QUESTIONS ARE: 1. Am I the only one who can't build a kernel without these errors? 2. Is it possible to get a version without these errors? Also, I would like to have a new enough version of FreeBSD to have PCI device 'rl' supported. 3. Have I made some error or omission? Thank you for your attention, Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. --- APPENDIX --- Partial screen dump: syscons.o(.text+0x56c5): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_state': syscons.o(.text+0x5729): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5780): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_leds': syscons.o(.text+0x57ca): undefined reference to `kbdsw' syscons.o: In function `set_mode': syscons.o(.text+0x5805): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x583f): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x58ca): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5927): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o: In function `set_border': syscons.o(.text+0x5957): undefined reference to `vidsw' syscons.o(.text+0x5a98): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 13:14:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15197 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou4-10.flex.net [207.18.136.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15187 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:14:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id PAA99161; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:13:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:13:43 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: "Wayne M. Barnes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syscons.o crashes kernel build Message-ID: <19990207151343.O11699@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <199902072118.PAA11559@barnes1.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <199902072118.PAA11559@barnes1.wustl.edu>; from Wayne M. Barnes on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:18:45PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 7, 1999, Wayne M. Barnes put this into my mailbox: > Dear FreeBSD stabilizers, > > Starting from 2.2.8, I have been trying to get to 3.0-stable. Which is fairly dangerous. > > Using /stand/sysinstall, I 'upgraded' to the smallest 3.0 > system to get the binaries. > I downloaded the port-current and unpacked them. > I cd'd to /usr/ports/net/cvsup to make all install. > The cvsup install kindly noticed that my X11R6 was out > of date, and updated it to 3.3.3; this was something I needed. > I did a cvsup with cvs tag=RELENG_3 > ( I also tried =. with the same result below) > I performed a 'make world' which seemed to finish okay. > > [ This is not my main trouble report, but when I rebooted, I > could not log in, as all my passwords were rejected. Readonly > inspection of /etc/master.passwd revealed no visible problems. > /stand/sysinstall would not let me set the root password unless > I performed a minimal binary install again. This I did, > and I had to delete my users from master.passwd and adduser them > again. Luckily, there weren't too many yet, and now I can > reboot and log in. ] > > NOW THE TROUBLE STARTS > > When I try to build a new kernel, the build crashes with > references to syscons.o [ see APPENDIX below for screen dump ] > I notice that this is coincident with the first paragraph of > /usr/src/UPDATING, which says syscons is being reworked. > I did the recommended 'make clean', which did not help. > > MY QUESTIONS ARE: > > 1. Am I the only one who can't build a kernel without > these errors? No, many other people haven't read and followed all the instructions in the updating docs ;) > > 2. Is it possible to get a version without these errors? > Also, I would like to have a new enough version > of FreeBSD to have PCI device 'rl' supported. > > 3. Have I made some error or omission? Yes. Copy GENERIC to a new kernel and re-add your devices according to LINT or the updating documentation. Make sure you have the keyboard device installed! Then try cleaning out the old compile directory, config, and then try rebuilding your kernel. All should go well. > > Thank you for your attention, > > Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu > Biochemistry Dept. 8231 > Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 > 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 > http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. > > --- APPENDIX --- > Partial screen dump: > syscons.o(.text+0x56c5): undefined reference to `kbdsw' > syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_state': > syscons.o(.text+0x5729): undefined reference to `kbdsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x5780): undefined reference to `kbdsw' > syscons.o: In function `update_kbd_leds': > syscons.o(.text+0x57ca): undefined reference to `kbdsw' > syscons.o: In function `set_mode': > syscons.o(.text+0x5805): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x583f): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x58ca): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x5927): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o: In function `set_border': > syscons.o(.text+0x5957): undefined reference to `vidsw' > syscons.o(.text+0x5a98): more undefined references to `vidsw' follow > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 13:32:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17668 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17663; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id GAA12289; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:31:51 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36BE061E.38D952A0@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 06:31:10 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiaowei Yang CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboot died and /usr cannot be mounted References: <36BDFF9B.237C228A@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Xiaowei Yang wrote: > > Hi, > > I followed the instruction from recommended pointers to upgrade to > -stable. Everything compiled. But, when I finished compling a new kernel > and reboot from it, it died at the phase: doing initial network setup: > hostname. I shut down the computer coldly and dropped to single usr > mode. But mount -a -t ufs did not work. I cannot access /usr. Is there > any thing I can do? Why it died? If you don't tell us what error messages appear and what leds you to believe in what you saying is happening, it is near impossible to help. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 14:59:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29457 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles235.castles.com [208.214.165.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29434 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:59:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08132; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902072255.OAA08132@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Milliken, Scott" cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Aha! I think I figured out what part sysinstall doesn't like In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:41:07 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 14:55:17 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Being the fidgety person that I am, I decided to start poking around the > configuration of the machine that kept hanging up during the sysinstall > probes. (By the way, I forgot to mention that it also has a 3COM 3c90x PCI > Ethernet card) After booting into Compaq's wacky little Win 3.1 based > system setup I looked at what IRQ assignments were being made. The auto > configuration program from Compaq had assigned the xl0 interface to IRQ 3 > for some reason. Just for grins I changed the IRQ assignment to IRQ 9 and > retried the boot floppy. WHAM! I made it into the menu for sysinstall > with no problem! Of course I had to set it back to IRQ 3 and see if the > process would lock up again and yes, it most certainly did. > > Looks like the problem deals with having a NIC on IRQ 3. More to the point, having it share/shadow an interrupt that ought to be assigned to something else. The fact that it came/was set for IRQ 3 gives me the creeps. That's just plain Uglee. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 15:01:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00150 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:01:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rain.futuresouth.com (rain.futuresouth.com [198.79.79.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00124 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stormy@rain.futuresouth.com) Received: (from stormy@localhost) by rain.futuresouth.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id RAA17944 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:01:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stormy) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:01:07 -0600 From: Stormy Henderson To: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: syscons.o crashes kernel build Message-ID: <19990207170107.B8550@rain.futuresouth.com> Mail-Followup-To: stable mailing list at FreeBSD References: <199902072118.PAA11559@barnes1.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199902072118.PAA11559@barnes1.wustl.edu>; from Wayne M. Barnes on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 03:18:45PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A happy camper (Wayne M. Barnes, wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) once wrote... > I notice that this is coincident with the first paragraph of > /usr/src/UPDATING, which says syscons is being reworked. I did the > recommended 'make clean', which did not help. You've done well...now read the second paragraph. (c: Be happy... -- Stormy Henderson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 15:31:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04157 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:31:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA04148 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: from waltz.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA18147 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:30:57 -0800 Received: by waltz.rahul.net (5.67b8/jive-a2i-1.0) id AA03060; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:30:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199902072330.AA03060@waltz.rahul.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-Reply-To: Message from Rico Pajarola of Sun, 07 Feb 99 17:04:30 +0100 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 99 15:30:55 -0800 From: Rahul Dhesi Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see that there are some slight risks to being "dangerously dedicated"< if you are using a big-name system. Are their any tangible benefits? The only one I can think of is that you save a tiny amount of disk space by not having multiple slices. I have always run my machines dangerously dedicated, by the way, but was never sure if there was any real benefit to doing so. Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 16:18:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11143 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11133; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:18:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA89052; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:17:54 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: obrien@NUXI.com, Satoshi Asami , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem Message-ID: <19990207161754.A89014@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990206051428.A57571@relay.nuxi.com> <6810.918308235@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <6810.918308235@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 05:37:15AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Check out: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/snapshots/i386/*/compat22/ > > For my "suggested" 2.2 compat set. I'm not attached to it and, in Is compat22 an approapiate name? Lets say I've got some old binaries from 2.1 days, but non from 2.2 days. So I only install compat21. I will be SOL because I won't have enough a.out libs to run the binaries. Maybe compat-aout is a better name? With suitable documenation that compat-aout is required for all compat2X installations. Or at least have sysinstall know that choosing compat21 also chooses compat22. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 18:53:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00546 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:53:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00526; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990208025316.EHBS9535.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:53:16 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990207185312.00a28100@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:53:12 -0800 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CTM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After reading http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook272.html and 'man ctm' several times, I have to say that I still don't understand it very well. Take this example from the handbook: To apply the deltas, simply say: cd /where/ever/you/want/the/stuff ctm -v -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-xxx.* What on earth is "/where/ever/you/want/the/stuff"? The "/where/you/store/your/deltas/" is obvious, but there's no explanation at all for the first directory. I think this is the only problem I have, because if when I run ctm it says that everything checks out okay, but I don't think it's in the right directory (i.e. I ran ctm in /usr/CTM, where I have the gzipped deltas, and the result sure doesn't look right). I think I just need a little more hand-holding than the documentation provides... Thanks, Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "All great truths begin as blasphemies." -George Bernard Shaw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 19:54:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06284 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06272; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 19:54:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA06707; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:54:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BE5FC1.4487EB71@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:53:37 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ifconfig kills my machine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am really sorry to bother here. Being so frustrated and having been searched all possible literatures, I have to turn to this list at my last try. I have two network interfaces fxp0 and de0 on my machine. I used to use 2.2.6. Both cards worked fine. I cvsuped RELENG_3 and complied it sucessfully. However, after I configured rc.conf, compiled the kernel, reboot the machine, it died at the point: Doing networking initial work:hostname. After it happend several times, I commented out the ifconfig command in rc.network. The machine could boot then. I even had X-windows running. I tried to manually configure my network cards by typing: ifconfig lo0 inet * ifconfig de0 inet * netmask * ifconfig fxp0 inet * netmask * However, "ifconfig fxp0" killed the machine. I lost keyboard. I tried to uncomment the lines in rc.network and left only network_interfaces="lo0". Still , rebooting died at the ifconfig point. I donot know what caused the problem. I used /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config configured the kernel. Does it matter? I am will very grateful if somebody could give me a hint. --Xiaowei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 21:56:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16880 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16868 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 21:56:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA24737 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:55:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA28053 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:56:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA03067 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:56:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:55:59 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Rico Pajarola Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre Albsmeier Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Message-ID: <19990208065559.A16209@internal> References: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch>; from Rico Pajarola on Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 05:04:30PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 07-Feb-1999 at 17:04:30 +0100, Rico Pajarola wrote: > At 14:54 99.02.07 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > >Just to add it for reference: Machines from our company (Siemens) also don't > >work with dangerously dedicated disks :-( They have a thing called Phoenix > >BIOS and I have got plenty of them... > > > >Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have > >problems with it... > Most of these well known names have their own, 'improved' BIOS. They do > more sanity checks on everything, which in some rare cases can make life > easier and 'safer', but in most cases they are a nuisance. There are other > ways to get problems with a Compaq BIOS than DD, eg a brand new > unpartitioned disk :( there are ways around those problems, but it can be a > real nuisance even if you're just installing win95 (as if win95 alone > wasn't enough of a nuisance) > So if it doesn't work, it's not because DD is a bad (or wrong) thing, but No, DD isn't a bad thing. I prefer it over NDD because it's simpler. > the BIOS checks for something it just should not check (ie it should only > look at the signature on the master boot record, and if it is ok, it should > load it without any further tests). > Those 'well known' names should fix their broken BIOSes, as they've always > caused problems with non-dos (=fat16) OSes (yes, even win95b with fat32 was > a problem with some vendors BIOS). I hope not because this is the reason I need for buying other machines :-). You can trust me, it's hard to buy non-Siemens PCs if you are working at Siemens... > You've been warned that DD may not work for you, and no one foces you to > use it. You know which BIOSes are likely not to work with it, and there > actually are cases where it can make one's life easier :) _I_ know that it doesn't work with machines from above companies, and _I_ know what to do against it (_I_ don't use them). I just wanted to add another name to the list in case someone needs it in future. > > Sorry if this was a bit too loud, but I just don't want to see DD go away. So do I. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 22:05:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17944 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17939 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:05:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09042 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:05:49 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20335 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:06:55 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902080606.JAA20335@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: STABLE and dset X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:06:54 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! After building STABLE two days ago, I've noticed that there is no dset sources, and no call to dset in /etc/rc. What should I do to record my pnp setup, or, better yet, to prerecord it in some file? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ΑΒ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 22:15:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18974 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:15:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18969 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:15:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avalon [207.201.56.88]) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00950; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:15:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990207213329.0098feb0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:12:21 -0800 To: Neil Groeber , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: HEADS UP: please read /usr/src/UPDATING! (was: Re: Kernel build failure) In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990206091430.009b99b0@pop2.ghostwheel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:20 AM 2/7/99 +0000, Neil Groeber wrote: >On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, Chris Knight wrote: >> http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html >> >> -ck > >I managed to upgrade the machine with the information in the >UPGRADE file in /usr/src (thanks to Daniel C. Sobral for reminding me to >read the doc's properly) and with Kazutaka YOKOTA's sc_update.txt, but >I'll look at your webpage to see if you did it an easier way. Since this is teh second time someone has mistaken this for mine, I just want to publicly state that this is not my web page, but rather a page that was posted to this list last week by Ruslan Ermilov . All credit for this excellent reference belongs to him. -ck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 7 22:35:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21998 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:35:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21993 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09002 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:35:18 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21684 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:36:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902080636.JAA21684@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Usage of splash module X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:36:25 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! As far as I understood from comments in LINT, splash module can be used to display some logo during boot. If I am right, how to set it up? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ΑΒ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 00:55:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05735 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05675 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 00:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id KAA36425; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:53:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:53:38 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Usage of splash module Message-ID: <19990208105338.E17722@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Alex Povolotsky , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199902080636.JAA21684@shuttle.svib.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: <199902080636.JAA21684@shuttle.svib.ru>; from Alex Povolotsky on Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 09:36:25AM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 09:36:25AM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > As far as I understood from comments in LINT, splash module can be used to > display some logo during boot. > > If I am right, how to set it up? > > Alex. http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 01:02:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06400 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06395; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:02:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id SAA15675; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:02:23 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma015582; Mon, 8 Feb 99 18:02:14 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-98080410) with ESMTP id SAA13290; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:02:10 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W-12/24/98) with ESMTP id SAA00838; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:00:59 +0900 (JST) To: charon@freethought.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:53:12 -0800" <3.0.5.32.19990207185312.00a28100@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19990207185312.00a28100@mail> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990208180059A.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:00:59 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 56 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, From: charon@freethought.org Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:53:12 -0800 ::After reading http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook272.html and 'man ::ctm' several times, I have to say that I still don't understand it very ::well. Take this example from the handbook: :: ::To apply the deltas, simply say: :: :: cd /where/ever/you/want/the/stuff :: ctm -v -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-xxx.* :: :: ::What on earth is "/where/ever/you/want/the/stuff"? The ::"/where/you/store/your/deltas/" is obvious, but there's no explanation at ::all for the first directory. :: ::I think this is the only problem I have, because if when I run ctm it says ::that everything checks out okay, but I don't think it's in the right ::directory (i.e. I ran ctm in /usr/CTM, where I have the gzipped deltas, and ::the result sure doesn't look right). I think I just need a little more ::hand-holding than the documentation provides... Thanks, You have to create your own "/where/ever/you/want/the/stuff" directory and apply yor deltas. For example, # mkdir /usr/src/3.0-STABLE # cd /usr/src/3.0-STABLE # ctm -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-3.* or # mkdir /usr/src/3.0-STABLE # cd /where/you/store/your/deltas # ctm -v -b /usr/src/3.0-STABLE src-3.* If your are starting off from some where in a huge tree, you could use the "src-*00xEmpty.gz" file. For example, # mkdir /usr/src/what-ever # cd /where/you/store/your/deltas Now, get src-*.??00xEmpty.gz and following src-*.????.gz files. Then, # ctm -v -b /usr/src/what-ever src-*.??00xEmpty.gz # ctm -v -b /usr/src/what-ever src-*.????.gz Hope this helps. Haro, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (Haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Office of Business Planning & Developement, Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-32454-3315 Email: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 01:48:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA11270 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:48:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11261 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:uRoMc+h1dDYe000dnREbxUNtpEbbPZoC@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14467; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:47:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id SAA12321; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:50:42 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199902080950.SAA12321@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Alex Povolotsky cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Usage of splash module In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:53:38 +0200." <19990208105338.E17722@ucb.crimea.ua> References: <199902080636.JAA21684@shuttle.svib.ru> <19990208105338.E17722@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:50:41 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> As far as I understood from comments in LINT, splash module can be used to >> display some logo during boot. >> >> If I am right, how to set it up? >> >> Alex. > >http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt If you cvsupped very recently, you should have find the man page for it. man splash Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 02:52:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17457 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:52:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cobra.net (ns.cobra.net [209.201.88.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA17452 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nitehawk@cobra.net) Received: (qmail 24721 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Feb 1999 05:50:47 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 05:50:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:50:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Cobra Networking To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: TCL Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA17453 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all I would like to know if anyone can help me setting up multi-TCL. Right now I have 8.1 installed and would like to also have 7.6 since its the most used since alot of things were written in it. Here is a snip from my /etc/profile TCLLIB=/usr/local/lib/; export TCLLIB TCLINC=/usr/local/include/tcl8.1/generic/; export TCLINC now where and how would I add something to call up tcl7.6? I installed it from ports also btw ;) Thanx, ζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζ Cobra Networking Thomas C. Edwards Email: nitehawk@cobra.net http://www.cobra.net ζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζζ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 03:39:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20809 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Anechka.mtmc.ru ([193.125.214.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20804; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 03:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vlad@mtmc.ru) Received: from mtmc.ru (vlad@Marinka.mtmc.ru [194.220.212.74]) by Anechka.mtmc.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA01025; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:39:52 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <36BECCEB.59411AED@mtmc.ru> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:39:23 +0300 From: "Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky" Organization: MTM Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.131 i686) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot problems with -CURRENT and -STABLE tree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello! I have some critical problems with fbsd. When I try to boot with fbsd install disk (boot.flp), my system is halt. I tried different versions of fbsd from 2.2.8R and 3.0-STABLE till 4.0-CURRENT. I have IBM server, model 8640ES0, with PPro 200, 128 MB RAM, SCSII-adapter AIC-7880 (it was "modified to better" :-/ by IBM's hands), SCSII CD-ROM IBM CDRM00203, 2 SCSII HDD - IBM DCAS-34330W and QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S I think SCSII driver cannot correct work with my SCSII-adapter, becose system halted after kernel say "Waiting 15 seconds to settle SCSII devices" But some last snaps (by 4,5,6 january) halted my system after uncompressing kernel: it say "Uncompressing kernel...." and freeze computer. I obligate to work with Linux on that server now, but I didn't prefer this OS. Can anybody comment this situation? (sorry for my english :) With best regards, -- Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky system administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 04:24:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28687 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 04:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk (mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk [130.246.170.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28676 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 04:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmb@rcru.rl.ac.uk) Received: from rcru.rl.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA32050; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:22:33 GMT (envelope-from tmb@rcru.rl.ac.uk) Message-Id: <199902081222.MAA32050@mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk> To: "Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot problems with -CURRENT and -STABLE tree In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:39:23 +0300." <36BECCEB.59411AED@mtmc.ru> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:22:33 +0000 From: Mark Blackman Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got an W6-LI motherboard dual PPro-180 with onboard SCSI (AIC-7880) and the 3.0-CURRENT release (early Jan.) works for me. Maybe you could temporarily borrow some good friend's scsi controller, disable your onboard controller, and hook up your disks to that controller. Might also be a funny BIOS setting. Are you running the onboard SCSI controller at ULTRA speeds (20Mhz)? Try running that at 10MHz and see if that helps. In message <36BECCEB.59411AED@mtmc.ru>, "Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky" writes: >hello! > >I have some critical problems with fbsd. When I try to boot with fbsd >install disk (boot.flp), my system is halt. >I tried different versions of fbsd from 2.2.8R and 3.0-STABLE till >4.0-CURRENT. >I have IBM server, model 8640ES0, with PPro 200, 128 MB RAM, >SCSII-adapter AIC-7880 (it was "modified to better" :-/ by IBM's hands), >SCSII CD-ROM IBM CDRM00203, 2 SCSII HDD - IBM DCAS-34330W and QUANTUM >EMPIRE_1080S > >I think SCSII driver cannot correct work with my SCSII-adapter, becose >system halted after kernel say "Waiting 15 seconds to settle SCSII >devices" > >But some last snaps (by 4,5,6 january) halted my system after >uncompressing kernel: it say "Uncompressing kernel...." and freeze >computer. > >I obligate to work with Linux on that server now, but I didn't prefer >this OS. > >Can anybody comment this situation? > >(sorry for my english :) > >With best regards, > >-- >Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky > system administrator > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 05:59:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07525 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:59:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk (mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk [130.246.170.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07520 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:59:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmb@mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk) Received: (from tmb@localhost) by mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA32506; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:59:09 GMT (envelope-from tmb) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:59:09 +0000 From: Mark Blackman To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: tmb@rcru.rl.ac.uk Subject: kernel build failure cvsup: Feb. 8, 13:53 GMT Message-ID: <19990208135909.A32482@rcru.rl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to report that a stable-cvsup kernel compile failed looking for an "intpm.h" include. Most recent change to the file pcisupport.c indicates that this include had been commented out and then put back in. Info follows ../../pci/pcisupport.c:46: intpm.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 -- Mark Blackman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 07:44:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21316 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server6.singular.com (server6.singular.com [204.140.208.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21209; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbarbee@singular.com) Received: from server7.singular.com ([204.140.208.10]) by server6.singular.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-42397U400L100S0) with ESMTP id AAA328; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:42:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:42:01 -0800 (PST) From: jbarbee@singular.com (John Barbee) To: Xiaowei Yang cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig kills my machine In-Reply-To: <36BE5FC1.4487EB71@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I always use /usr/sbin/config. However, I don't know if that matters or not. john. On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Xiaowei Yang wrote: > Hello, > > I am really sorry to bother here. Being so frustrated and having been > searched all possible literatures, I have to turn to this list at my > last try. > > I have two network interfaces fxp0 and de0 on my machine. I used to use > 2.2.6. Both cards worked fine. I cvsuped RELENG_3 and complied it > sucessfully. However, after I configured rc.conf, compiled the kernel, > reboot the machine, it died at the point: > > Doing networking initial work:hostname. > > > After it happend several times, I commented out the ifconfig command in > rc.network. The machine could boot then. I even had X-windows running. I > tried to manually configure my network cards by typing: > > ifconfig lo0 inet * > ifconfig de0 inet * netmask * > ifconfig fxp0 inet * netmask * > > However, "ifconfig fxp0" killed the machine. I lost keyboard. I tried to > uncomment the lines in rc.network and left only > network_interfaces="lo0". Still , rebooting died at the ifconfig point. > > > I donot know what caused the problem. I used > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config configured the kernel. Does > it matter? > > I am will very grateful if somebody could give me a hint. > > --Xiaowei > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 08:40:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26656 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:40:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26651 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:40:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 15065 invoked by uid 100); 8 Feb 1999 16:40:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 1999 16:40:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-Reply-To: <199902072330.AA03060@waltz.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > I see that there are some slight risks to being "dangerously dedicated"< > if you are using a big-name system. If I've correctly figured out what happened, then it's more than just "big-name" systems. My SuperMicro box lost the boot blocks on reboot a couple of times (seems to be related to booting with a floppy in the drive). I suspect it was the anti-virus feature of the BIOS writing a "good" MBR onto the drive. I've since disabled that feature, but not tried booting with a floppy in the drive again. Since the system came from a FreeBSD systems integration house, I'm sort of surprised they left that feature on. Then again, they may not have expected me to install 3.0-RELEASE as a DD system. Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Anechka.mtmc.ru ([193.125.214.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06717 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:10:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vlad@Anechka.mtmc.ru) Received: from localhost (vlad@localhost) by Anechka.mtmc.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA03987; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:09:48 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:09:43 +0300 (MSK) From: "Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky" To: Mark Blackman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot problems with -CURRENT and -STABLE tree In-Reply-To: <199902081222.MAA32050@mescalero.asd1.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Mark Blackman wrote: > I've got an W6-LI motherboard dual PPro-180 with onboard SCSI > (AIC-7880) and the 3.0-CURRENT release (early Jan.) works for > me. Maybe you could temporarily borrow some good friend's > scsi controller, disable your onboard controller, and hook > up your disks to that controller. I'll try this variant some latter - I haven't any scsi controllers now and my friends haven't it too > Might also be a funny BIOS setting. Are you running the onboard > SCSI controller at ULTRA speeds (20Mhz)? Try running > that at 10MHz and see if that helps. Same results :( -- Vladimir G. Drobyshevsky system administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 10:25:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08448 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08371; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18230; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:23:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA43716; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:23:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199902041549.PAA55761@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:23:51 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Brian Somers Subject: Re: rc.network->rc.firewall->natd Cc: jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Juriy Goloveshkin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Any chance of a repository copy of src/usr.sbin/natd to src/sbin/natd > (peter & jdp cc'd) ? If it's moved, I'll shift the loading. Sorry, I won't have time to do it until next week. Maybe Peter will have time sooner than that. If next week comes along and it hasn't been done yet, give me a holler. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 11:14:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13996 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13988 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:14:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matthew@venux.net) Received: from thunder (net177138.hcv.com [209.153.177.138]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D7CC32E207; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:15:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990208141224.009b16a0@mail.venux.net> X-Sender: mhagerty@mail.venux.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:15:49 -0500 To: Andre Albsmeier , Rico Pajarola From: Matthew Hagerty Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre Albsmeier In-Reply-To: <19990208065559.A16209@internal> References: <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> <3.0.32.19990207170425.0092c9e0@shrike.overmind.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You can add Intel Server Boards to that list, and yes, they have a Phoenix BIOS. If the BIOS does not recognize the MBR it seems to write its own MBR that basically stops the machine from booting and just displays an error. I had quite a time with this, what a pain in the a**. Matthew At 06:55 AM 2/8/99 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: >On Sun, 07-Feb-1999 at 17:04:30 +0100, Rico Pajarola wrote: >> At 14:54 99.02.07 +0100, Andre Albsmeier wrote: >> >Just to add it for reference: Machines from our company (Siemens) also don't >> >work with dangerously dedicated disks :-( They have a thing called Phoenix >> >BIOS and I have got plenty of them... >> > >> >Interesting, all these "well known" names (Compaq, HP, Siemens) seem to have >> >problems with it... >> Most of these well known names have their own, 'improved' BIOS. They do >> more sanity checks on everything, which in some rare cases can make life >> easier and 'safer', but in most cases they are a nuisance. There are other >> ways to get problems with a Compaq BIOS than DD, eg a brand new >> unpartitioned disk :( there are ways around those problems, but it can be a >> real nuisance even if you're just installing win95 (as if win95 alone >> wasn't enough of a nuisance) >> So if it doesn't work, it's not because DD is a bad (or wrong) thing, but > >No, DD isn't a bad thing. I prefer it over NDD because it's simpler. > >> the BIOS checks for something it just should not check (ie it should only >> look at the signature on the master boot record, and if it is ok, it should >> load it without any further tests). >> Those 'well known' names should fix their broken BIOSes, as they've always >> caused problems with non-dos (=fat16) OSes (yes, even win95b with fat32 was >> a problem with some vendors BIOS). > >I hope not because this is the reason I need for buying other machines :-). >You can trust me, it's hard to buy non-Siemens PCs if you are working at >Siemens... > >> You've been warned that DD may not work for you, and no one foces you to >> use it. You know which BIOSes are likely not to work with it, and there >> actually are cases where it can make one's life easier :) > >_I_ know that it doesn't work with machines from above companies, and _I_ >know what to do against it (_I_ don't use them). I just wanted to add >another name to the list in case someone needs it in future. > >> >> Sorry if this was a bit too loud, but I just don't want to see DD go away. > >So do I. > > -Andre > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 11:20:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14696 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14683; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id LAA17640; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id LAA15608; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:19:48 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id MAA04781; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:19:47 -0700 Message-ID: <36BF38D3.A030A7B1@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:19:47 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Xiaowei Yang CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig kills my machine References: <36BE5FC1.4487EB71@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Xiaowei Yang wrote: > > However, "ifconfig fxp0" killed the machine. I lost keyboard. I tried to > uncomment the lines in rc.network and left only > network_interfaces="lo0". Still , rebooting died at the ifconfig point. > > I donot know what caused the problem. I used > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config configured the kernel. Does > it matter? > > I am will very grateful if somebody could give me a hint. I've seen this on a Toshiba Equium 7000S, with onboard fxp0. The first DMA operation in the configuration of the chip never completes. I re- installed 2.2.7 on that machine, since I didn't have time to investigate then. If I ever get done with my "FPX" code at work (maybe this week, if I'm lucky) I'll poke into this fxp problem. ;^) -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 12:23:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25248 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:23:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25243; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA14427; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:23:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36BF4792.52BFA1D7@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 15:22:42 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig kills my machine References: <36BE5FC1.4487EB71@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <36BF38D3.A030A7B1@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > However, "ifconfig fxp0" killed the machine. I lost keyboard. I tried to > > uncomment the lines in rc.network and left only > > network_interfaces="lo0". Still , rebooting died at the ifconfig point. > > > I've seen this on a Toshiba Equium 7000S, with onboard fxp0. The first > DMA operation in the configuration of the chip never completes. I re- > installed 2.2.7 on that machine, since I didn't have time to investigate > then. If I ever get done with my "FPX" code at work (maybe this week, > if I'm lucky) I'll poke into this fxp problem. ;^) > The problem might be fixed by enabling PCI bus-mastering in the BIOS. My cards seem to work now. Both 2.2.6 and 2.2.7 donot have this problem. My machine used to work under 2.2.6 without enabling PCI bus-mastering and I have another hardware identical machine running 2.2.7 with fxp0 and de0 without PCI bus-mastering. Thanks a lot for the help from this list. I am happy I survived 3.0 upgrade. --Xiaowei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 12:51:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29334 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29314; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:51:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18993; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:51:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA44802; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:51:47 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: CVSup "SetAttrs" messages Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Replies to current@freebsd.org only, please. I am doing some final beta testing before releasing a new version of CVSup. When you run your next CVSup update from a FreeBSD mirror site, you may find that it spews out a whole bunch of "SetAttrs" messages. Or, maybe not. :-) It depends on a lot of things. Anyway, don't be alarmed. The new version is stricter about the way it preserves file permissions. The first time you update from a server using the new version, it may do a lot of SetAttrs to correct the information in its "checkouts" files. You won't see it again on subsequent updates. Replies to current@freebsd.org only, please. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 13:30:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05668 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05651; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00616; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:24:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902082124.NAA00616@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Wes Peters cc: Xiaowei Yang , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ifconfig kills my machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:19:47 MST." <36BF38D3.A030A7B1@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:24:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Xiaowei Yang wrote: > > > > However, "ifconfig fxp0" killed the machine. I lost keyboard. I tried to > > uncomment the lines in rc.network and left only > > network_interfaces="lo0". Still , rebooting died at the ifconfig point. > > > > I donot know what caused the problem. I used > > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config configured the kernel. Does > > it matter? > > > > I am will very grateful if somebody could give me a hint. > > I've seen this on a Toshiba Equium 7000S, with onboard fxp0. The first > DMA operation in the configuration of the chip never completes. I re- > installed 2.2.7 on that machine, since I didn't have time to investigate > then. If I ever get done with my "FPX" code at work (maybe this week, > if I'm lucky) I'll poke into this fxp problem. ;^) I've also seen this on a (significant) number of IBM systems. We could probably get FreeBSD certified on the NetFinity range if we can resolve this. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 14:08:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11317 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11291; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990208220801.MQBU9535.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:08:01 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990208140756.009cdca0@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:07:56 -0800 To: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Subject: Re: CTM Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990208180059A.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> References: <3.0.5.32.19990207185312.00a28100@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:00 PM 2/8/99 +0900, Munehiro Matsuda wrote: >Hi, > >From: charon@freethought.org >Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:53:12 -0800 >::After reading http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook272.html and 'man >::ctm' several times, I have to say that I still don't understand it very >::well. Take this example from the handbook: >:: >::To apply the deltas, simply say: >:: >:: cd /where/ever/you/want/the/stuff >:: ctm -v -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-xxx.* >:: >:: >::What on earth is "/where/ever/you/want/the/stuff"? The >::"/where/you/store/your/deltas/" is obvious, but there's no explanation at >::all for the first directory. >:: >::I think this is the only problem I have, because if when I run ctm it says >::that everything checks out okay, but I don't think it's in the right >::directory (i.e. I ran ctm in /usr/CTM, where I have the gzipped deltas, and >::the result sure doesn't look right). I think I just need a little more >::hand-holding than the documentation provides... Thanks, > >You have to create your own "/where/ever/you/want/the/stuff" directory >and apply yor deltas. For example, > > # mkdir /usr/src/3.0-STABLE > # cd /usr/src/3.0-STABLE > # ctm -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-3.* Okay, I did this, but I still have a question... df shows 431878K free on /usr before doing ctm (that's 39% full), and 241579K free on /usr _after_ doing ctm (that's 66% full). That's about 185MB - is that supposed to happen? I'm used to upgrades _replacing_ things instead of _adding_ (at least _that_ much!). Is there something else I'm supposed to do after I use the ctm command, or is the outcome I got just normal? Thanks, Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ Sitting in the glove compartment makes me claustrophobic. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 14:55:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19696 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19690 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 14:55:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for id BCB1E1F821; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:55:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (veldy@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28518 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:55:14 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: veldy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:55:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Reboot - reproducible Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did a make world lastnight off of 3.0 stable source code freshly cvsup. I was trying to create some floppy disks using: dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 I had forgotten to remove the write-protection from the diskette. The drive suddenly started going wild (floppy drive). I tried to hit Cntl-C after a second X locked up and the computer rebooted. I tried the samething on my gateway machine and it also rebooted (STABLE-02061999). Certainly hitting Cntl-C should not reboot the computer. The disks were not synced in either case. I am wondering if this has anything to do with the spontaneous reboots I have been getting under load. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 15:09:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21383 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21370 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx98.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.98]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA22450; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:09:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36BF6EAC.809E2A93@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:09:32 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Paνs Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrσnica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboot - reproducible References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > I did a make world lastnight off of 3.0 stable source code freshly cvsup. > I was trying to create some floppy disks using: > > dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 > > I had forgotten to remove the write-protection from the diskette. The > drive suddenly started going wild (floppy drive). I tried to hit Cntl-C > after a second X locked up and the computer rebooted. I tried the > samething on my gateway machine and it also rebooted (STABLE-02061999). > Certainly hitting Cntl-C should not reboot the computer. The disks > were not synced in either case. I am wondering if this has anything to do > with the spontaneous reboots I have been getting under load. > Perhaps this problem is related to another one I found recently: when trying to mount (R/W) a write protected unit (nobody is perfect :-) ), such as a diskette or a MO disk, the kernel complaints, but the mount succeeds anyway. After that, unmounting the device is not possible. A diskette can be manually ejected for removing the write protection, but a MO disk (I suppose that the same would happen using a ZIP) cannot be ejected :-(. My next action is remount R/O (mount -u -r) the device: more kernel messages. And after that, an umount ends with a panic ("dirty buffers") _always_. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 18:09:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14492 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ratatosk.assetfactory.com (lightwave-outpost.com [199.108.32.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14487 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:09:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from moof@ratatosk.assetfactory.com) From: moof@ratatosk.assetfactory.com Received: (from root@localhost) by ratatosk.assetfactory.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA04022 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:31:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:31:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199902090531.VAA04022@ratatosk.assetfactory.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new freebsd news site Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.roms.cx - new freebsd news website, updated daily. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 19:20:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23606 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neuman.interaccess.com (neuman.interaccess.com [207.70.126.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23593 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ras@interaccess.com) Received: from ras.windowsntirc.org (d89.tp.interaccess.com [199.88.134.89]) by neuman.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA13049; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:19:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:24:11 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Silva X-Sender: ras@ras.windowsntirc.org To: moof@ratatosk.assetfactory.com cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new freebsd news site In-Reply-To: <199902090531.VAA04022@ratatosk.assetfactory.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 moof@ratatosk.assetfactory.com wrote: > http://www.roms.cx - new freebsd news website, updated daily. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Yeah right... There is a link saying the site moved due to high volume, then links to www.tantowel.com - yet another spam job... Jeez - will these lamers ever get a life... _____________________________________________________________________ RSA Key Fingerprint = 6D0B 5536 7825 3D09 9093 384A 9694 FDB6 RSA Key Fingerprint = 4390 44E5 E316 F2AA A11E 5755 F3F9 D69B DH/DSS Fingerprint = 089B 0B5C 75C7 A7B4 B050 DD14 2D65 5DD6 E87D 239A PGP Mail encouraged / preferred - keys available on common keyservers _____________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNr+cXP9tKFG94DNTAQEakAgAmR3NCZL4eHAfRtiTEuBn6vAIDjk1qlG+ 2GpGQsr7HtPPtHcJ+RlfxIGEgKxdDT3MNkGfiJrma+eo042JH+pgIdG2dUorBAWs 0Hz/GqbqqzaiHrvsJ22ITL1T049KnxXU/qOzfpTHNEZl5zBZjzqj6228RVgf2s/F 1wuFClsoKscOYxI6Ug68VHzkQHRB2Zj5qUfNJMUmludxQSn+2nK+OLMcYafLihmo ofT5LOs5V4e7wzHVzJav/VCUwkm03V1F9mPAIgFE23Y/5zwR3vE1wh8/b9XsSYYT TC6+GI8OV0lnXqk7SFWibcK0S5/QXrM0IwIfAk3ckSFc9eeVaKmAjA== =QZeA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 20:33:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01740 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01734 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:33:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA126876; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:34:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: drosih@pop1.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199902072330.AA03060@waltz.rahul.net> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:32:50 -0500 To: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:40 AM -0800 2/8/99, Mike Meyer wrote: >On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > >> I see that there are some slight risks to being "dangerously dedicated" >> if you are using a big-name system. > > If I've correctly figured out what happened, then it's more than just > "big-name" systems. My SuperMicro box lost the boot blocks on reboot a > couple of times (seems to be related to booting with a floppy in the > drive). I suspect it was the anti-virus feature of the BIOS writing a > "good" MBR onto the drive. I've since disabled that feature, but not > tried booting with a floppy in the drive again. For what it's worth, I purposely went with a "dangerously dedicated" system as my own way to avoid MBR-related viruses. I have one machine which is only going to run FreeBSD, and I assumed it would be better if the disk was entirely under the control of freebsd. On systems where I'm dual booting into anything else, I avoid the dangerously-dedicated feature. I am not much of an expert on Intel-ish hardware systems. Was I correct in thinking that there are some viruses which write over MBR blocks? Does a DD setup do much of anything to protect me from any such viruses? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 23:06:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16491 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:06:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles225.castles.com [208.214.165.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16482 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00489; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902090702.XAA00489@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Garance A Drosihn cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fully Dedicated HD may clobber some BIOS' In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:32:50 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:02:25 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > For what it's worth, I purposely went with a "dangerously dedicated" > system as my own way to avoid MBR-related viruses. I have one machine > which is only going to run FreeBSD, and I assumed it would be better > if the disk was entirely under the control of freebsd. ... > I am not much of an expert on Intel-ish hardware systems. Was I > correct in thinking that there are some viruses which write over > MBR blocks? Does a DD setup do much of anything to protect me > from any such viruses? It won't matter what's in your MBR; the virus will overwrite it anyway. It's not going to run too well under FreeBSD though. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Feb 8 23:43:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19497 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:43:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19492 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark.hannon@stockholm.mail.telia.com) Received: from d1o1.telia.com (root@d1o1.telia.com [195.67.240.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08068 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:43:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from doorway.home.lan (t5o1p39.telia.com [195.67.241.39]) by d1o1.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01164 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:43:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from stockholm.mail.telia.com (putte.home.lan [192.168.255.2]) by doorway.home.lan (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA02297; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:17:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mark.hannon@stockholm.mail.telia.com) Message-ID: <36BFD247.D567664@stockholm.mail.telia.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 07:14:31 +0100 From: Mark Hannon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.8 - 3.0S Good & Gotchas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just upgraded one of my 2.2.8 boxes to 3.0-STABLE. It was an eventful upgrade so I thought I'd share a few points. I have two FreeBSD machines, one running continuously, acting as internet gateway, mail server, news server etc. and one that spends a lot of its time in Windows. The dual booting machine has only a fairly small FreeBSD partition and mounts /home & /usr/local via NFS. Good News: ------------- A worthy upgrade! Softupdates is great! A massive speed increase in creating the large xover databases netscape likes to make when opening a new news group! I don't know if it is my imagination but I certainly feel a general system speedup in interactive useage. My Soundblaster PCI64 works! Bad News: ----------- It's a pain to retreive ft.c and co from the Attic and repatch support for floppy tape. It's only a couple of fairly independent files so I still don't understand why it can't stay in the tree.... Install Problems and suggestions for improvements: --------------------------------------------------- (1) NFS Install The initial make aout-to-elf-build was conducted on the server machine. After it was finished I booted the dual-boot machine and attempted a make aout-to-elf-install of the sources and obj files that were nfs mounted from the server. Slow .... slow .... slow... Every file operation took ages, after going to bed and looking at the machine 10 hours later it still wasn't finished! (I guess it could be related to some of these other messages about NFS install problems, it seems in that case to be 2.2.8 related as both machines were running that whilst attempting to install) I ended up Ctrl-Cing the make and thus got an unbootable machine, as would be expected... (2) Compile problems I reinstalled a clean/minimal 2.2.8 sytem on the client and started a make aout-to-elf-build. I tried this with -j4 flags to speed things up, set the nfs client cache etc. Unfortunately the machine rebooted somewhere in the middle of the process. Didn't see the message so I'm not sure if it was a H/W related problem (the client is a 300A running at 450Mhz and is normally quite stable) or some NFS related bug. Cleaned up and recompiled. (3) NFS Install #2 The second time I attempted to install I mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj async,noatime on the server, and noatime on the client. Installed perfectly... can it have been as a result of the options I used? (4) Move of aout libraries The aout-to-elf install target wants to move all libraries into an aout subdirectory, in my case, with a 2.2.8 server with /usr/local I did not want to move the libraries on /usr/local and /usr/X11R6. It would be nice if the script allowed one to prune the list of libraries being moved. (5) Hung make in kernel compile Whilst compiling the new 3.0 generic kernel cc hung whilst compiling aicxxxx (?) and I had to kill the make. Not sure what could have caused that (As a side note I have rebuilt the kernel 6 times in the last couple of days without any other hangs...) Could this also be hardware? (6) Booting 2.2.8 kernel is not healthy! I rebooted the machine with my old 2.2.8 kernel and then discovered that I could not mount any file systems.... it seems that the 3.0 mount uses new syscalls that aren't supported in 2.2.8. I thought I was stuffed until I saw /stand/mount_nfs, managed to nfs mount my home directories, copy a 2.2.8 mount bin there and I was up and running. Maybe a 2.2.8 version of mount could be saved during the upgrade? Or perhaps mount could be made compatible with both new and old kernels? To sum it all up, once installed 3.0 is a nice upgrade! Thanks for all of your efforts. Regards/Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 02:57:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00601 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:57:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00594; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:57:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id TAA00599; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:32:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma000244; Tue, 9 Feb 99 19:31:11 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-98080410) with ESMTP id TAA21913; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:31:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W-12/24/98) with ESMTP id TAA00996; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:29:58 +0900 (JST) To: charon@freethought.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:07:56 -0800" <3.0.5.32.19990208140756.009cdca0@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19990208140756.009cdca0@mail> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990209192957C.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 19:29:57 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 35 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: charon@freethought.org Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:07:56 -0800 ::> # mkdir /usr/src/3.0-STABLE ::> # cd /usr/src/3.0-STABLE ::> # ctm -v /where/you/store/your/deltas/src-3.* :: ::Okay, I did this, but I still have a question... df shows 431878K free on ::/usr before doing ctm (that's 39% full), and 241579K free on /usr _after_ ::doing ctm (that's 66% full). That's about 185MB - is that supposed to ::happen? I'm used to upgrades _replacing_ things instead of _adding_ (at ::least _that_ much!). Is there something else I'm supposed to do after I ::use the ctm command, or is the outcome I got just normal? Thanks, Well, you seem to have got your "source tree", ok. Now, you have to build the new OS and upgrade it. You should read the Makefile, UPDATING on the source tree, and http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt as well. If you are upgrading from 2.2.x system, following may be a good reference. http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html #BTW, I'm still using 2.2-STABLE, so I cannot help you from here on. #Sorry. :-) Hope this helps. haro, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Office of Business Planning & Developement, Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-32454-3315 Email: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 03:03:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01227 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 03:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns10.nokia.com (ns10.nokia.com [131.228.6.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01212 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 03:03:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc.solsona@research.nokia.com) Received: from pepper.research.nokia.com (pepper.research.nokia.com [131.228.12.3]) by ns10.nokia.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA12655 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:54:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from pupu.research.nokia.com (pupu.research.nokia.com [131.228.13.130]) by pepper.research.nokia.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16086 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:54:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from research.nokia.com (playa.research.nokia.com [131.228.13.35]) by pupu.research.nokia.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28090 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:52:02 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <36C005DD.90513BB3@research.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:54:37 +0200 From: Marc Solsona X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------61E90DAA348087068B2479E8" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------61E90DAA348087068B2479E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subscribe freebsd-stable -- Marc Solsona Palomar || mailto: marc.solsona@research.nokia.com If at first you don't succeed, redefine success. --------------61E90DAA348087068B2479E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
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  --------------61E90DAA348087068B2479E8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 04:03:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08200 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 04:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abc.123.org (123.org [194.172.236.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08194 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 04:03:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@abc.123.org) Received: (from k@localhost) by abc.123.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA22099 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:02:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k) Message-ID: <19990209130223.C21777@123.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:02:23 +0100 From: Kai Voigt To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup'ing ports for -stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Organization: 123.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, when adding "ports-all" to my cvsupfile with "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3", I only get a /usr/ports/Mk/ directory with a couple of files in it. I.e. no Makefiles, patches as usual. I changed it to "*default release=cvs tag=." and was able to fetch the -current port collection. But is this the collection I should use on my -stable box? Kai PS: I tried to search on http://www.freebsd.org/ for hints, but the server doesn't respond... -- kai voigt hamburger chaussee 36 24113 kiel 0431-642677 http://k.123.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 06:28:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21014 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:28:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21004 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:28:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id IAA26465 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:28:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id IAA26461 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:28:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005901be5438$778ccad0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: Spontaneous reboots Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:28:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few hours now for the last few weeks. I do routine build worlds to try and avoid this, but it still does it. There have been very few complaints about this, so I have been suspecting my hardware. However, I have not been able to find any errant hardware. I have noticed a few people on the lists complain of the same problem, all the way back to 3.0-RELEASE. As of this morning the machine has not rebooted in 12 hours, which is nearly a record. However, there is one difference, I put Linux on there in the hopes of either getting a more verbose hardware message or whatever, I don't know what I hoped. I can say that it has displayed no symptoms since the "downgrade". Anyway, there is obviously something going on here that shows up on other peoples' machines from time to time that I hope does not make it into the release. Here is my hardware configuration if it matters: 486 DX4 - 100MHz 20 MB Memory 220MB Hard-Drive 325MB Hard-Drive 2 - Linksys Ethernet ISA Cards (new) I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the network or from the Internet. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 06:53:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24256 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:53:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.solid.se (mail.solid.se [193.15.190.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24251 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 06:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from johan.granlund@solid.se) From: johan.granlund@solid.se Received: by mail.solid.se(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id C1256713.0051CE26 ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:53:31 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SOLID AB To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:53:28 +0100 Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I dont have any problems with my 3.0-Stable except that i cant se any big boost when going from single cpu to smp. That has probably to do with the neptune chipset and shared L2 cache :( My machine is a Intel Altserver: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #4: Wed Feb 3 10:18:20 CET 1999 root@daemon.solid.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/DAEMON Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x3bf real memory = 83886080 (81920K bytes) avail memory = 78962688 (77112K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00030010, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 14, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf025d000. eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x11 on pci0.0. 0 chip1: rev 0x04 on pci0.2.0 "Thomas T. Veldhouse" on 99-02-09 15:28:31 To: "FreeBSD-Stable" cc: (bcc: Johan Granlund/Solid AB) Subject: Spontaneous reboots My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few hours now for the last few weeks. I do routine build worlds to try and avoid this, but it still does it. There have been very few complaints about this, so I have been suspecting my hardware. However, I have not been able to find any errant hardware. I have noticed a few people on the lists complain of the same problem, all the way back to 3.0-RELEASE. As of this morning the machine has not rebooted in 12 hours, which is nearly a record. However, there is one difference, I put Linux on there in the hopes of either getting a more verbose hardware message or whatever, I don't know what I hoped. I can say that it has displayed no symptoms since the "downgrade". Anyway, there is obviously something going on here that shows up on other peoples' machines from time to time that I hope does not make it into the release. Here is my hardware configuration if it matters: 486 DX4 - 100MHz 20 MB Memory 220MB Hard-Drive 325MB Hard-Drive 2 - Linksys Ethernet ISA Cards (new) I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the network or from the Internet. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 07:08:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26255 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.175.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26241 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id XAA00716 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:03:35 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:03:35 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902091503.XAA00716@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dropping out In-Reply-To: <005901be5438$778ccad0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any relationship between the prolific negative calcru messages I now get under 3.0 (my NTIMECOUNTER is already set to 200) and the static-sounding popping noises that now interfere with mpg123 audio playback (even with healthy output buffers)? -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 07:29:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28446 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.softec.sk (gw.softec.sk [194.196.214.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28438 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 07:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from viera@softec.sk) Received: (from mail@localhost) by gw.softec.sk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA08064 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:29:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from softec.softec.sk(193.87.236.1) by gw.softec.sk via smap (V2.0) id xma008050; Tue, 9 Feb 99 16:29:09 +0100 Received: from cleopatra.softec.sk by softec.softec.sk id aa23129; 9 Feb 99 16:46 CET Received: by cleopatra.softec.sk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <1DD0HAY8>; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:29:33 +0100 Message-ID: <51980C349B51D21196A10060087D04071BB0B8@cleopatra.softec.sk> From: "Uhrinova, Viera" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:29:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 08:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02650 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02632 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:05:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA13496 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:05:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 3940 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 16:01:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 16:01:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:01:18 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <005901be5438$778ccad0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few Actually I'm seeing the same on my machine (was 3.0-STABLE and is now 4.0-CURRENT) for quite some time now, but it is not so often. More like twice a week. > into the release. Here is my hardware configuration if it matters: > > 486 DX4 - 100MHz > 20 MB Memory > 220MB Hard-Drive > 325MB Hard-Drive > 2 - Linksys Ethernet ISA Cards (new) My configuration: AMD 5x86 64MB memory Compex NE2000-compatible ethernet card (unused) Teles S0/16.3 ISDN card Adaptec 2940 > I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it I actually don't use my NE2000 compatible card, but I do have it configured in my kernel. > would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet > or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the > network or from the Internet. Actually I'm seeing the same, but my network connection is through the ISDN card. I was suspecting the problem to be in isdn4bsd, but now this got me thinking. I usually see the problem when I just connected to the internet and my mail starts flowing in (I use UUCP over TCP) and I start a SSH session at the same time (so I get a lot of network _and_ disk traffic). I was trying to debug this, but it is really hard, because I'm always working under X and I don't see anything on the console and don't get a kernel crash dump at all. One of these days I'll borrow a terminal and make the serial port the console. But for now, I don't have the slightest idea on how to go about debugging this. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 08:12:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03523 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03515 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:12:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA26965 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:12:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990209101513.00a38650@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:15:24 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: Reboot - reproducible Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA03519 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey all, I am able to reproduce this behavior as well. In my case (3.0-STABLE 2/8/1999) merely trying to write to a write-protected disk will cause a reboot. This is a _major_ problem, and is something that didn't exist about 1 month ago when I CVSupped another server. Anyone know what's causing these reboots? When mine reboots, I get: < messages about the disk being write protected > panic: dirty buffers Syncing disks... 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 ... When I tried it with Ctrl-C I got: < messages about the disk being write protected > panic: dirty buffers Syncing disks... 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 ... Ben At 12:09 AM 2/9/99 +0100, you wrote: >Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >> >> I did a make world lastnight off of 3.0 stable source code freshly cvsup. >> I was trying to create some floppy disks using: >> >> dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 >> >> I had forgotten to remove the write-protection from the diskette. The >> drive suddenly started going wild (floppy drive). I tried to hit Cntl-C >> after a second X locked up and the computer rebooted. I tried the >> samething on my gateway machine and it also rebooted (STABLE-02061999). >> Certainly hitting Cntl-C should not reboot the computer. The disks >> were not synced in either case. I am wondering if this has anything to do >> with the spontaneous reboots I have been getting under load. >> > >Perhaps this problem is related to another one I found recently: when >trying to mount (R/W) a write protected unit (nobody is perfect :-) ), >such as a diskette or a MO disk, the kernel complaints, but the >mount succeeds anyway. After that, unmounting the device is not possible. >A diskette can be manually ejected for removing the write protection, >but a MO disk (I suppose that the same would happen using a ZIP) >cannot be ejected :-(. My next action is remount R/O (mount -u -r) >the device: more kernel messages. And after that, an umount ends with >a panic ("dirty buffers") _always_. > >-- JMA >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es >Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG >Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose >Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 >48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 08:42:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07229 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:42:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07222 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA19420 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:42:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 4186 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 16:42:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 16:42:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:42:31 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Mike Tancsa cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990209111321.00a9d360@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >> My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few > >> 486 DX4 - 100MHz > >AMD 5x86 > > Interesting... I am seeing the same thing on my AMD 586 as well. It looked > like bad RAM, but I adjusted the wait states to be a little more > conservative and the box is more stable now. Mine is a 5x86, 48MB RAM, NCR > 875 and a couple of ed0 cards.... Well, for now the common factor are a 486-class CPU and the ed0 card. My machine was running just fine (without any reboots) under 2.2.8. As soon as I put 3.0 (-CURRENT at that time) on the box, the spontaneous reboots started. And it would be an incredible coincidence that my RAM would be broken at the same time I upgraded the machine ;) >From the above data, the culprit could either be the 486-class CPU or the network card. But as I don't use the network card, I suspect the CPU. Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 08:57:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08731 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:57:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08722 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:57:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id KAA27298; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:56:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id KAA27294; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:56:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <017d01be544d$32240930$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Blaz Zupan" Cc: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:56:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It sounds to me like the problem resides in the ed0 (NE2000) driver. I have two cards in my machine running NATD, both of which use this driver. That probably accentuates the problem for me. My development box uses de0, and I don't see this problem ever (PII-333). Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com -----Original Message----- From: Blaz Zupan To: Thomas T. Veldhouse Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >> My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few > >Actually I'm seeing the same on my machine (was 3.0-STABLE and is now >4.0-CURRENT) for quite some time now, but it is not so often. More like >twice a week. > >My configuration: > >AMD 5x86 >64MB memory >Compex NE2000-compatible ethernet card (unused) >Teles S0/16.3 ISDN card >Adaptec 2940 > >I actually don't use my NE2000 compatible card, but I do have it >configured in my kernel. > >Actually I'm seeing the same, but my network connection is through the >ISDN card. I was suspecting the problem to be in isdn4bsd, but now this >got me thinking. > >I usually see the problem when I just connected to the internet and my >mail starts flowing in (I use UUCP over TCP) and I start a SSH session at >the same time (so I get a lot of network _and_ disk traffic). > >I was trying to debug this, but it is really hard, because I'm always >working under X and I don't see anything on the console and don't get a >kernel crash dump at all. > >One of these days I'll borrow a terminal and make the serial port the >console. > >But for now, I don't have the slightest idea on how to go about debugging >this. > >Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz >Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 08:59:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09005 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from milf18.bus.net (milf18.bus.net [207.41.25.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08993 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 08:59:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cao@bus.net) Received: from localhost (cao@localhost) by milf18.bus.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20069; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:59:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cao@bus.net) X-Authentication-Warning: milf18.bus.net: cao owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:59:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Chuck O'Donnell" To: Blaz Zupan cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Blaz Zupan wrote: > > >> My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few > > >> 486 DX4 - 100MHz > > >AMD 5x86 > > > > Interesting... I am seeing the same thing on my AMD 586 as well. It looked > > like bad RAM, but I adjusted the wait states to be a little more > > conservative and the box is more stable now. Mine is a 5x86, 48MB RAM, NCR > > 875 and a couple of ed0 cards.... > > Well, for now the common factor are a 486-class CPU and the ed0 card. My > machine was running just fine (without any reboots) under 2.2.8. As soon > as I put 3.0 (-CURRENT at that time) on the box, the spontaneous reboots > started. And it would be an incredible coincidence that my RAM would be > broken at the same time I upgraded the machine ;) > > >From the above data, the culprit could either be the 486-class CPU or the > network card. But as I don't use the network card, I suspect the CPU. > > Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with > 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? I was getting reboots under 3.0-RELEASE, almost always when the daily scripts run. One of these reboots was directly preceeded by some disk errors (disk and controller are new) that showed up in /var/log/messages. I haven't seen anything since a cvsup and 'make world' on Saturday, Feb 6. This may be an unrelated hardware problem, don't know yet. CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (350.80-MHz 686-class CPU) NIC: fxp0: Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 09:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09738 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09725 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:05:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA22694 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:05:00 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 893 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 17:02:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 17:02:10 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:02:10 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <017d01be544d$32240930$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It sounds to me like the problem resides in the ed0 (NE2000) driver. I have > two cards in my machine running NATD, both of which use this driver. That > probably accentuates the problem for me. My development box uses de0, and I > don't see this problem ever (PII-333). Ok then. I am right now compiling a new kernel without ed0 (which I don't use anyway) and I'll be running this kernel for the next couple of days to see what happens. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 09:05:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09782 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09774 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:05:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA23111 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:05:26 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1048 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 17:04:24 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 17:04:24 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:04:24 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Chuck O'Donnell" cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was getting reboots under 3.0-RELEASE, almost always when the daily > scripts run. One of these reboots was directly preceeded by some disk > errors (disk and controller are new) that showed up in > /var/log/messages. I haven't seen anything since a cvsup and 'make > world' on Saturday, Feb 6. This may be an unrelated hardware problem, > don't know yet. I don't think this is the same problem. At least I don't get *ANYTHING* in any log file. If it was a bad disk, I'd notice. And meanwhile I have already replaced the disk with a bigger one and I don't think both disks are bad. I still suspect either a problem with the ed0 driver or with 486-CPU support (which after a quick scan of the relevant kernel cvs log files seems basically unchaged from 2.2.8). Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 09:30:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12695 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12688 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.9.2/8.7.3) id TAA89048; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:29:48 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:29:47 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: Blaz Zupan Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990209111321.00a9d360@staff.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14016.28718.228145.350938@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Blaz Zupan writes: > > Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with > 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? > Yes. The machine below reboots 1-5 times a day. It started after 2.2.8-->3.0 and eventually 4.0 upgrade. Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Thu Feb 4 13:58:37 EET 1999 root@lab3.sms.fi:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAB3 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30277632 (29568K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0290000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1 de0: rev 0x20 int a irq 11 on pci0.14.0 de0: SMC 9332BDT 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de0: address 00:00:c0:1f:46:f9 vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> fe0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 10 on isa fe0: address 00:00:f4:d0:61:37, type AT-1700T/RE2001 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug de0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen lo0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen changing root device to wd0s2a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted de0: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 09:42:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14036 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:42:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from max.difi.de (router.difi.de [194.231.78.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14025 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:42:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@t-online.de) Received: from edv1.difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22225; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:35:01 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:34:18 GMT Message-ID: <19990209.17341800@edv1.difi.de> Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots To: Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.0; Unix) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA14029 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, my machine shows the same problem, it reboots without any error messages. The machine is a 3.0-STABLE (Feb. 2nd) AMD K6-233MHz/Asus T2P4 with a Symbios 8751SP, a DEC-NIC (DE-450, de0) and 64MB RAM. So it's not a 486/ed0 problem, I think. I thought the reason was the use of Star-Office 5.0 for Linux in my case, but now I'm not so sure... greetings from Europe, Uwe > Well, for now the common factor are a 486-class CPU and the ed0 card. My > machine was running just fine (without any reboots) under 2.2.8. As soon > as I put 3.0 (-CURRENT at that time) on the box, the spontaneous reboots > started. And it would be an incredible coincidence that my RAM would be > broken at the same time I upgraded the machine ;) > >From the above data, the culprit could either be the 486-class CPU or the > network card. But as I don't use the network card, I suspect the CPU. > Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with > 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? > Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz > Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 10:18:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17727 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17719 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:18:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA04367 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:18:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 715 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 18:16:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 18:16:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:16:35 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Petri Helenius cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <14016.28718.228145.350938@silver.sms.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Petri Helenius wrote: > > Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with > > 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? > Yes. > The machine below reboots 1-5 times a day. > It started after 2.2.8-->3.0 and eventually 4.0 upgrade. Ok, I looked at your dmesg output, here is what you have in common with my box: > vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa My box says this: > vga0: rev 0x53 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Ok, so we seem to be using a simmilar graphic card. What are the other guys having this problem using? If the others are not using S3 Trio cards, then it does not seem to be a hardware problem, because this is the only common hardware that I have with Petri. Next: software. I'm running qmail, sshd, isdnd (for ISDN) and X (login through xdm, WindowMaker window manager). Bug can be triggered by starting up an ISDN connection to my ISP, which starts a UUCP over TCP download, then at the same time I usually run a cvsup and also ssh. The machine sponteously reboots a couple of seconds after the ISDN connection is established. Another idea: here is my kernel configuration file. Others having problems please mail me your kernel configuration files (private mail, to not clutter this mailing list). I _do_ have softupdates turned on. Notice that I have recently removed ed0 and added DDB to my kernel config file and I don't yet know any impact this will have on the problem. machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" ident GOLD maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO options "VM86" options SOFTUPDATES options "TEL_S0_16_3" options "P1003_1B" options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" options KTRACE options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel config kernel root on da1 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ahc0 controller scbus0 device da0 device cd0 device pass0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty pseudo-device splash device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device isic0 at isa? port 0xd80 net irq 12 flags 3 controller ppbus0 controller vpo0 at ppbus? device nlpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? controller ppc0 at isa? port ? tty irq 7 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device sppp 4 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device ether pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device streams pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 Next try: Does anyone who is seeing the problem have another box available that he could use as a serial console (to catch any possible messages displayed on the console)? I'll try to do this and it would be helpful if somebody else does this as well. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 10:29:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18810 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.sitaranetworks.com (apollo.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA18797 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:29:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from loverso@sitara.net) Received: from sitara.net (jamaica.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.147]) by apollo.sitaranetworks.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21220 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:29:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36C07E3F.93573468@sitara.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:28:15 -0500 From: "John R. LoVerso" Reply-To: loverso@sitaranetworks.com Organization: Sitara Networks, http://surf.to/loverso/ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: packages-2.2-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As a machine now running 2.2.8-STABLE, I was fetching an up to date packages tree. I grabbed packages-2.2.8-stable, which seems to be the latest/greatest packages for the branch. However, I've noticed that it is missing several packages. I.e., it does not have ImageMagick (which I plucked from the packages-2.2.8 tree). Also, on releng22.freebsd.org, there is a releng22/packages tree. This is different from all the packages trees on ftp.freebsd.org. However, it has some packages otherwise not found. Can anyone lend me some insight on this? John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 10:33:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19506 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:33:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19497 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:33:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id MAA28329; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:33:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id MAA28325; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:33:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <01f801be545a$b7a22800$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Blaz Zupan" , "Petri Helenius" Cc: Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:33:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My machine that reboots all the time uses an old Cirus Logic chip I believe. It is an ISA video card. I never have problems with my PII-333 running a Diamond Viper 550 AGP and an Asante PCI 10BaseT ethernet card. This machine rarely runs ssh but it usually had sshd running. The rogue machine (reboots) also uses sshd. That is the only comparison I see between your comments and my hardware/software. I suspect the problem is rooted deeper in the networking code and is not directly hardware related. One thing that does seem to be common is the fact that some sort of networking is going on, but then again, that would be a rare case when that wasn't true. However, a dial-up connection may have a much longer period of time go by before the problem manifested itself. Higher bandwidth could certainly trip this up faster. However, I can say that the reboot ALWAYS occurrs with network activity, either on initial connects, prolonged activity or intense activity. Doesn't seem to be anything else. Perhaps a combination of similar hardware and networking or something. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com -----Original Message----- From: Blaz Zupan To: Petri Helenius Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Petri Helenius wrote: > > Is anyone with a 586 or 686-class CPU seeing the spontaneous reboots with > > 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT? > Yes. > The machine below reboots 1-5 times a day. > It started after 2.2.8-->3.0 and eventually 4.0 upgrade. Ok, I looked at your dmesg output, here is what you have in common with my box: > vga0: rev 0x54 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa My box says this: > vga0: rev 0x53 int a irq 11 on pci0.11.0 > vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Ok, so we seem to be using a simmilar graphic card. What are the other guys having this problem using? If the others are not using S3 Trio cards, then it does not seem to be a hardware problem, because this is the only common hardware that I have with Petri. Next: software. I'm running qmail, sshd, isdnd (for ISDN) and X (login through xdm, WindowMaker window manager). Bug can be triggered by starting up an ISDN connection to my ISP, which starts a UUCP over TCP download, then at the same time I usually run a cvsup and also ssh. The machine sponteously reboots a couple of seconds after the ISDN connection is established. Another idea: here is my kernel configuration file. Others having problems please mail me your kernel configuration files (private mail, to not clutter this mailing list). I _do_ have softupdates turned on. Notice that I have recently removed ed0 and added DDB to my kernel config file and I don't yet know any impact this will have on the problem. machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" ident GOLD maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO options "VM86" options SOFTUPDATES options "TEL_S0_16_3" options "P1003_1B" options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" options KTRACE options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel config kernel root on da1 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ahc0 controller scbus0 device da0 device cd0 device pass0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty pseudo-device splash device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device isic0 at isa? port 0xd80 net irq 12 flags 3 controller ppbus0 controller vpo0 at ppbus? device nlpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? controller ppc0 at isa? port ? tty irq 7 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ppp 2 pseudo-device sppp 4 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device ether pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device streams pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 4 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 Next try: Does anyone who is seeing the problem have another box available that he could use as a serial console (to catch any possible messages displayed on the console)? I'll try to do this and it would be helpful if somebody else does this as well. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 10:56:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22042 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:56:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22035 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:56:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA10557 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:56:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 2923 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 18:56:02 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 18:56:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:56:02 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <01f801be545a$b7a22800$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I suspect the problem is rooted deeper in the networking code and is not > directly hardware related. One thing that does seem to be common is the > fact that some sort of networking is going on, but then again, that would be > a rare case when that wasn't true. However, a dial-up connection may have a > much longer period of time go by before the problem manifested itself. > Higher bandwidth could certainly trip this up faster. Well yeah, I agree. But why don't other people see the problem? Our configurations (hardware or software) mus thave something in common that triggers the problem and I'm trying to pinpoint that. Do you have VM86 or SOFTUPDATES in your kernel config file? Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 10:59:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22495 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles313.castles.com [208.214.167.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22435 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:58:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04026; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902091853.KAA04026@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Benjamin Gavin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Reboot - reproducible In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:15:24 CST." <4.1.19990209101513.00a38650@mail.supranet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:53:19 -0800 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id KAA22487 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think a relative of that can be seen with this: # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt # cd /mnt # umount /mnt (oops) # cd / # umount /mnt > I am able to reproduce this behavior as well. In my case (3.0-STABLE > 2/8/1999) merely trying to write to a write-protected disk will cause a > reboot. This is a _major_ problem, and is something that didn't exist > about 1 month ago when I CVSupped another server. Anyone know what's > causing these reboots? When mine reboots, I get: > > < messages about the disk being write protected > > panic: dirty buffers > > Syncing disks... 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 ... > > When I tried it with Ctrl-C I got: > < messages about the disk being write protected > > panic: dirty buffers > > Syncing disks... 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 ... > > Ben > > At 12:09 AM 2/9/99 +0100, you wrote: > >Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > >> > >> I did a make world lastnight off of 3.0 stable source code freshly cvsup. > >> I was trying to create some floppy disks using: > >> > >> dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 > >> > >> I had forgotten to remove the write-protection from the diskette. The > >> drive suddenly started going wild (floppy drive). I tried to hit Cntl-C > >> after a second X locked up and the computer rebooted. I tried the > >> samething on my gateway machine and it also rebooted (STABLE-02061999). > >> Certainly hitting Cntl-C should not reboot the computer. The disks > >> were not synced in either case. I am wondering if this has anything to do > >> with the spontaneous reboots I have been getting under load. > >> > > > >Perhaps this problem is related to another one I found recently: when > >trying to mount (R/W) a write protected unit (nobody is perfect :-) ), > >such as a diskette or a MO disk, the kernel complaints, but the > >mount succeeds anyway. After that, unmounting the device is not possible. > >A diskette can be manually ejected for removing the write protection, > >but a MO disk (I suppose that the same would happen using a ZIP) > >cannot be ejected :-(. My next action is remount R/O (mount -u -r) > >the device: more kernel messages. And after that, an umount ends with > >a panic ("dirty buffers") _always_. > > > >-- JMA > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es > >Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG > >Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose > >Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 > >48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 11:13:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23858 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23850 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA04359; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:13:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990209130940.00becee0@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:15:51 -0600 To: Mike Smith From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: Reboot - reproducible Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199902091853.KAA04026@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA23853 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am not sure how the two are related, but I am getting extremely weird problems when running the few commands below... I get a bunch of accesses to the drive, then input/ouput errors, then it refuses to unmount the drive. Once the drive has been mounted, it can never get unmounted, the only way to unmount the drive is to remove the disk, turn off write protection, then unmount. Why is this? It shouldn't be trying to write to the disk on an unmount, especially since no changes have been attempted, and no directories have been viewed. It is like the drive isn't getting it's input/output buffers reset, or possibly when the drive is mounted the input/output buffers are getting marked dirty??? I haven't looked at code, but what has changed in the last month?? Ben At 10:53 AM 2/9/99 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > >I think a relative of that can be seen with this: > ># mount /dev/fd0 /mnt ># cd /mnt ># umount /mnt >(oops) ># cd / ># umount /mnt > >> I am able to reproduce this behavior as well. In my case (3.0-STABLE >> 2/8/1999) merely trying to write to a write-protected disk will cause a >> reboot. This is a _major_ problem, and is something that didn't exist >> about 1 month ago when I CVSupped another server. Anyone know what's >> causing these reboots? When mine reboots, I get: >> >> < messages about the disk being write protected > >> panic: dirty buffers >> >> Syncing disks... 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 ... >> >> When I tried it with Ctrl-C I got: >> < messages about the disk being write protected > >> panic: dirty buffers >> >> Syncing disks... 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 ... >> >> Ben >> >> At 12:09 AM 2/9/99 +0100, you wrote: >> >Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >> >> >> >> I did a make world lastnight off of 3.0 stable source code freshly cvsup. >> >> I was trying to create some floppy disks using: >> >> >> >> dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0 >> >> >> >> I had forgotten to remove the write-protection from the diskette. The >> >> drive suddenly started going wild (floppy drive). I tried to hit Cntl-C >> >> after a second X locked up and the computer rebooted. I tried the >> >> samething on my gateway machine and it also rebooted (STABLE-02061999). >> >> Certainly hitting Cntl-C should not reboot the computer. The disks >> >> were not synced in either case. I am wondering if this has anything to do >> >> with the spontaneous reboots I have been getting under load. >> >> >> > >> >Perhaps this problem is related to another one I found recently: when >> >trying to mount (R/W) a write protected unit (nobody is perfect :-) ), >> >such as a diskette or a MO disk, the kernel complaints, but the >> >mount succeeds anyway. After that, unmounting the device is not possible. >> >A diskette can be manually ejected for removing the write protection, >> >but a MO disk (I suppose that the same would happen using a ZIP) >> >cannot be ejected :-(. My next action is remount R/O (mount -u -r) >> >the device: more kernel messages. And after that, an umount ends with >> >a panic ("dirty buffers") _always_. >> > >> >-- JMA >> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es >> >Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG >> >Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose >> >Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 >> >48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 >> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> >> /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ >> Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant >> >> *********** NO SPAM!! ************ >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >-- >\\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith >\\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au >\\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org >\\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 11:14:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23920 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23913 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id NAA28597; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:13:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id NAA28593; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:13:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <021501be5460$5b192240$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Blaz Zupan" Cc: Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:14:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SOFTUPDATES. It is on both machines though. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com >Well yeah, I agree. But why don't other people see the problem? Our >configurations (hardware or software) mus thave something in common that >triggers the problem and I'm trying to pinpoint that. > >Do you have VM86 or SOFTUPDATES in your kernel config file? > >Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz >Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 11:16:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24188 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kalamalka.ogopogo.net (adsl-207-214-111-190.snfc21.pacbell.net [207.214.111.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24175 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:16:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@homemail.com) Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([10.0.0.4]) by kalamalka.ogopogo.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA02629 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:16:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@homemail.com) X-Sender: kiss@pop.slip.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:15:43 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Richard Kiss Subject: Near-daily 3.0 Crash Reboots Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am seeing crashes on my Cyrix box ever since upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3.0. I had uptimes of over 30 days on 2.2.8. Now it's usually one or two days. The crash is typical: I walk up to the machine, hit "shift" to unblank the screen. After the monitor warms up, the text login screen appears (no xdm), with the solid white cursor after "login: " as it should be. However, a blinking underline cursor appears in the top left corner. After I type a few more keys, which don't echo, the machine reboots. I've never seen any messages (/var/log/messages has nothing unusual either). The machine is almost completely inactive. However, during the night, cron does the usual things, plus at 5 AM copies a large (40-80 MB) tarball from a remote site using scp (the ssh version of rcp). I have DDB & DDB_UNATTENDED in my kernel file, but I don't see any kernel core files. Where are these supposed to appear? Root level? I'm running sshd, apache, natd with two 3C509 boards, all very low load. If anyone wants more info or has debugging suggestions, please go ahead. I'd love to get some stability back. -- Richard ---------------------------- Richard Kiss 140 Locksunart Way #8 Sunnyvale, CA, 94087 (408) 481-9621 richard@homemail.com http://www.ogopogo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 12:25:53 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02023 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:25:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02012 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:25:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.9.2/8.7.3) id WAA89537; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:25:30 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:25:30 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "Blaz Zupan" , Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <021501be5460$5b192240$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> References: <021501be5460$5b192240$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14016.39131.132429.331253@silver.sms.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas T. Veldhouse writes: > SOFTUPDATES. It is on both machines though. > I don't have softupdates so that's not common... The machine seems to stay up a lot better if I don't run significant amount of networking on it, but as soon as I start to stress the networking it dies. However, I've two other machines with similar hardware and they don't share the problems. The two others are running current from 5th of Feb. Pete > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@visi.com > > >Well yeah, I agree. But why don't other people see the problem? Our > >configurations (hardware or software) mus thave something in common that > >triggers the problem and I'm trying to pinpoint that. > > > >Do you have VM86 or SOFTUPDATES in your kernel config file? > > > >Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz > >Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 12:43:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04320 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04314 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from port2.annex8.radix.net (port2.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.2]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01124; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:43:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:44:09 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Seal To: Kai Voigt cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup'ing ports for -stable In-Reply-To: <19990209130223.C21777@123.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG RTFM, yes they say use . not RELENG_3 I know you tried but you should have the mirrors memorized by now!! www2.freebsd.org www3.freebsd.org wwwn.freebsd.org ftp2.freebsd.org ftp3.freebsd.org ftpn.freebsd.org ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make | really crappy operating systems." Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds hosting and Design http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Kai Voigt wrote: > Hello, > > when adding "ports-all" to my cvsupfile with > "*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3", I only get a /usr/ports/Mk/ > directory with a couple of files in it. I.e. no Makefiles, patches > as usual. > > I changed it to "*default release=cvs tag=." and was able to fetch > the -current port collection. But is this the collection I should > use on my -stable box? > > Kai > > PS: I tried to search on http://www.freebsd.org/ for hints, but > the server doesn't respond... > > -- > kai voigt hamburger chaussee 36 > 24113 kiel > 0431-642677 > http://k.123.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 12:54:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05929 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05923 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:53:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mishania@skraldespand.demos.su) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA35339; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:53:40 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mishania) Message-ID: <19990209235339.07865@demos.su> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:53:39 +0300 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: Petri Helenius Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots References: <021501be5460$5b192240$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> <14016.39131.132429.331253@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <14016.39131.132429.331253@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 10:25:30PM +0200 X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. X-Useless-Header: Look ma! It's a # sign! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 10:25:30PM +0200, Petri Helenius wrote: # Thomas T. Veldhouse writes: # > SOFTUPDATES. It is on both machines though. # > # I don't have softupdates so that's not common... The machine seems to # stay up a lot better if I don't run significant amount of networking # on it, but as soon as I start to stress the networking it # dies. However, I've two other machines with similar hardware and they or 'hangs'. I've managed to wait for 2 hours before assured myself it's better be rebooted already. hardware of those machines which behave like this is way similiar to all the mentioned, besides all of mine use fxp's as NICs. # don't share the problems. The two others are running current from 5th # of Feb. # # Pete -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:15:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08465 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:15:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08456 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09296 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:15:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990209151335.00cf5170@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:17:39 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Problems with Sysinstall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Here's another oddity. I am running the machine fine, I run setup, install, add packages and recompile the kernel. Upon reboot, any changes that I made to ethernet cards remain so all is fine. However, I then go into rc.conf.site (where did this come from anyway? Why can't we just edit rc.conf like usual??) change a few values, and reboot. Upon reboot all the stuff is reset to defaults and I have lost my initial configuration. It is almost like the thing is reading it's defaults from /etc/rc.conf, and writing its results to rc.conf.site? Anyone else see this happening? I am running 3.0-STABLE (CVS update on kernel, 2/6/1999). I have also seen this happen on another 3.0-STABLE box (full CVS update, 2/8/1999). Ben Gavin /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:20:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09189 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:20:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (mortar.carlson.com [208.240.12.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09136 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from mortar.carlson.com (root@localhost) by mortar.carlson.com with ESMTP id PAA29619; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:19:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from w142844 ([172.25.99.35]) by mortar.carlson.com with SMTP id PAA29615; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:19:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <02cc01be5471$e3f71110$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: , "Benjamin Gavin" Subject: Re: Problems with Sysinstall Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:19:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I always delete /etc/rc.conf.site.* before I do anything. That has stuck me more than once. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Gavin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 3:15 PM Subject: Problems with Sysinstall >Hi all, > Here's another oddity. I am running the machine fine, I run setup, >install, add packages and recompile the kernel. Upon reboot, any changes >that I made to ethernet cards remain so all is fine. However, I then go >into rc.conf.site (where did this come from anyway? Why can't we just edit >rc.conf like usual??) change a few values, and reboot. Upon reboot all the >stuff is reset to defaults and I have lost my initial configuration. It is >almost like the thing is reading it's defaults from /etc/rc.conf, and >writing its results to rc.conf.site? Anyone else see this happening? > >I am running 3.0-STABLE (CVS update on kernel, 2/6/1999). I have also seen >this happen on another 3.0-STABLE box (full CVS update, 2/8/1999). > >Ben Gavin > >/-------------------------------------------------------------------------- / > Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant > > *********** NO SPAM!! ************ > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:21:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09297 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09292 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA03318 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:21:22 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1134 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 21:17:19 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:17:19 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Richard Kiss cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Near-daily 3.0 Crash Reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am seeing crashes on my Cyrix box ever since upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3.0. > I had uptimes of over 30 days on 2.2.8. Now it's usually one or two days. See the thread that started on this mailing list with the subject "Re: Spontaneous reboots". Currently it appears to be a network problem. I'm collecting the hardware and software data, please send the output of "dmesg" on your machine and your kernel config file to me. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:21:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09313 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09304 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA25804; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:19:43 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199902092119.NAA25804@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, gavinb@supranet.net Subject: Re: Problems with Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990209151335.00cf5170@mail.supranet.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:17:39 -0600 >From: Benjamin Gavin > Here's another oddity. I am running the machine fine, I run setup, >install, add packages and recompile the kernel. Upon reboot, any changes >that I made to ethernet cards remain so all is fine. However, I then go >into rc.conf.site (where did this come from anyway? Why can't we just edit >rc.conf like usual??) change a few values, and reboot. Upon reboot all the >stuff is reset to defaults and I have lost my initial configuration. It is >almost like the thing is reading it's defaults from /etc/rc.conf, and >writing its results to rc.conf.site? Anyone else see this happening? Yup; that's pretty much what is happening. Please see the archives from the recent weekend (onward); that's been a topic of much discussion of late. There's also an /etc/rc.conf.local that will be sourced, as well (if it exists) by default. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:23:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09479 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09472 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA97879; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:23:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Benjamin Gavin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Sysinstall In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Feb 1999 15:17:39 CST." <4.1.19990209151335.00cf5170@mail.supranet.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 13:23:27 -0800 Message-ID: <97872.918595407@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am running 3.0-STABLE (CVS update on kernel, 2/6/1999). I have also seen > this happen on another 3.0-STABLE box (full CVS update, 2/8/1999). You need to rebuild and install sysinstall; it wasn't really working properly WRT this until the 7th or so. Before that, it failed to preserve the old settings in rc.conf.site. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 13:32:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10486 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:32:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10476 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA04830 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:32:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1216 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 21:31:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 21:31:28 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:31:28 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: Spontaneous reboots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Everybody who is experiencing spontaneous reboots under 3.0-STABLE or 4.0-CURRENT (and did not experience them with 2.2.8 or earlier) and cannot find any indication of what could be wrong (nothing on the console and nothing in syslog), please send me (in *private* mail) the output of "dmesg" on your machine and your kernel configuration file. Also send a list of all daemons that are running on a freshly booted system and any other information you think could be relevant. If you are a commiter or a networking guru, even better. :) Please send the above data, even if you have already responded to the "Spontaneous reboots" thread on this mailing list. I'm trying to compile a list of hardware and software configurations that experience the problem and see if there is something in common between them. If we want to fix the problem, we at least need a starting point. For now it looks like it is a problem with the networking code, so please send a description of what network activity is going on when you experience the reboots. I will summarize the responses I receive. Also if you have a good idea how we could attack the problem, please speak up. For now my idea is to find a common software and hardware configuration and then try to sistematically remove components that could cause the problem. I have separetely posted this message to both freebsd-current and freebsd-stable, as it seems to affect both branches. Please DO NOT respond to the mailing list. Thank you for your attention. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 14:25:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16515 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from partners.partners-dsi.com (partners.partners-dsi.com [38.240.152.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16510; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:25:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daren@partners-dsi.com) Received: from rio (rio [38.240.152.202]) by partners.partners-dsi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA05806; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:27:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002f01be547a$4c5d9fa0$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> From: "Daren Sefcik" To: , Subject: LVD Support?? Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:19:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any support for the Adaptec 2940U2W or similar LVD controller yet for FreeBSD3.0?? (looking to get the 80MB MByte/sec or so) Daren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 14:47:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19309 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:47:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp39-54.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.39.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19303 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:47:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from broccoli.no-support.loc (broccoli.no-support.loc [192.168.43.99]) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.2/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id XAA00954; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:40:19 +0100 (CET) From: Bjoern Fischer Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by broccoli.no-support.loc (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA00430; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:39:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bjoern) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:39:51 +0100 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NFS + cdda2wav Message-ID: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Matthew, here's s.t. I can reproduce on all machines: If you try to read audio data from a CDROM using cdda2wav (latest version; shipped with cdrecord-1.8a16) and the resulting audio file is on an NFS, it will be 50k-100k too small. I tried this with all flavors NFS v2/v3 TCP/UDP--the same. cdda2wav writing to a local FS works perfectly. Not that I need to use it w/ NFS--it's a bad idea anyway--but it may help to get NFS more stable. Bjoern -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UBL++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L+++(-) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 14:53:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20668 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:53:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20654 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 14:53:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id XAA14716 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:38:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1751 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Feb 1999 22:34:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Feb 1999 22:34:35 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:34:35 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have another idea. I looked through old (closed) PR's and stumbled upon PR 376 titled "tcpdump seems to cause spontaneous reboots". I noticed that the bug was caused by bpfilter. Until now I received three kernel config files from people experiencing spontaneous reboots and all three had bpfilter enabled. I also have bpfilter. That makes us four. I am compiling a kernel without bpfilter to see my reboots disappear. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 15:11:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22994 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:11:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22987 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:11:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA61734; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:11:40 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902092311.PAA61734@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Hello Matthew, : :here's s.t. I can reproduce on all machines: If you try to :read audio data from a CDROM using cdda2wav (latest version; :shipped with cdrecord-1.8a16) and the resulting audio file :is on an NFS, it will be 50k-100k too small. I tried this :with all flavors NFS v2/v3 TCP/UDP--the same. : :cdda2wav writing to a local FS works perfectly. Not that I :need to use it w/ NFS--it's a bad idea anyway--but it may :help to get NFS more stable. : : Bjoern Are these SCSI or IDE CDROM drives ? Or does it matter? -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 15:35:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26561 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:35:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26551 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:35:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from mips.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id AAA26581 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:35:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de) Received: by mips.rhein-neckar.de id m10AMRI-000WyeC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:19:32 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: cvsup'ing ports for -stable Date: 10 Feb 1999 00:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: <79qfq1$k8f$1@mips.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19990209130223.C21777@123.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990209130223.C21777@123.org>, Kai Voigt wrote: > I changed it to "*default release=cvs tag=." and was able to fetch > the -current port collection. But is this the collection I should > use on my -stable box? Yes. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de carpe librum: books 'n' reviews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 15:38:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27020 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26994 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA73718; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: Blaz Zupan cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Do you have DDB enabled? YOur spontaneous reboots might be panics with the messages hidden "behind" xwindows so you never see them. If you turn on DDB, it will crash to the debugger instead of just reboot. On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Blaz Zupan wrote: > I have another idea. I looked through old (closed) PR's and stumbled upon > PR 376 titled "tcpdump seems to cause spontaneous reboots". > > I noticed that the bug was caused by bpfilter. Until now I received three > kernel config files from people experiencing spontaneous reboots and all > three had bpfilter enabled. I also have bpfilter. That makes us four. > > I am compiling a kernel without bpfilter to see my reboots disappear. > > Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz > Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 15:52:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28674 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28668 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA05687; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <005901be5438$778ccad0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: : I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it : would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet : or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the : network or from the Internet. It might be an incompatibility with your card, perhaps. I use ed0 with a Kingston EtheRx and have no problems. - Matt Behrens Network Administrator, zigg.com Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 16:01:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29956 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:01:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29951 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:y5oRQanzjLSobpH29K9AooCSBB5lkmdf@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21582; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:01:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id JAA02775; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:04:02 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199902100004.JAA02775@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Richard Kiss cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Near-daily 3.0 Crash Reboots In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:15:43 PST." References: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:04:01 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I am seeing crashes on my Cyrix box ever since upgrading from 2.2.8 to 3.0. >I had uptimes of over 30 days on 2.2.8. Now it's usually one or two days. > >The crash is typical: I walk up to the machine, hit "shift" to unblank the >screen. Is the screen blanked by a screen saver? Which one? Or, is it APM BIOS that blanks the display? Is the apm(4) driver included in your kernel? >After the monitor warms up, the text login screen appears (no xdm), Does this mean that you don't run xdm, or you are put in a text vty even though you are running xdm? Do the keyboard LEDs all right? Hit CapsLock, ScrollLock, NumLock to see if LESs are updated as they should. >with the solid white cursor after "login: " as it should be. Which vty? >However, a >blinking underline cursor appears in the top left corner. After I type a >few more keys, which don't echo, the machine reboots. I've never seen any >messages (/var/log/messages has nothing unusual either). Can you switch to ttyv0 (hit Alt-F1)? There may be something there. If you ping this box from another before you unblank the screen, does it respond? Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 16:02:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00364 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00320 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:02:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id SAA05787 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:13:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902100013.SAA05787@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: passwd and send-pr To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:13:42 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Stabilizers, I have just upgraded 2 machines from 2.7.8 to 3.0-stable. Thank you for your kind pointers to http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.htmlo and http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html PROBLEM: One of the new 3.0 systems has a strange problem with the commands passwd and send-pr (at least). Each of these commands just hangs, with no output. [ I had send-pr hang in this same way about a year ago with 3.0, and this was the main reason I have hesitated to upgrade so long.] Is there a command I can give to see what these programs are doing, to see why they are hung up? Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 16:09:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03393 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:09:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (hou5-39.flex.net [207.18.136.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03376 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:09:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2+chrismods/8.9.1) id SAA57514; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:08:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:08:46 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: "Wayne M. Barnes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: passwd and send-pr Message-ID: <19990209180846.C56420@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <199902100013.SAA05787@barnes1.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <199902100013.SAA05787@barnes1.wustl.edu>; from Wayne M. Barnes on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 06:13:42PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 9, 1999, Wayne M. Barnes put this into my mailbox: > Dear Stabilizers, > > I have just upgraded 2 machines from 2.7.8 to 3.0-stable. 2.7.8 ? Cool. When was this released? > Thank you for your kind pointers to > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.htmlo > and > http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html > > PROBLEM: > One of the new 3.0 systems has a strange problem with the commands > passwd and send-pr (at least). > > Each of these commands just hangs, with no output. > > [ I had send-pr hang in this same way about a year ago with 3.0, and > this was the main reason I have hesitated to upgrade so long.] > > Is there a command I can give to see what these programs are doing, > to see why they are hung up? ktrace send-pr when it locks up do kdump | more > > Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu > Biochemistry Dept. 8231 > Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 > 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 > http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 16:12:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03982 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:12:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quicksand.desert.kconline.com (quicksand.desert.kconline.com [208.154.67.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03975 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rif@kconline.com) Received: from localhost (rif@localhost) by quicksand.desert.kconline.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02971; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:11:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rif@kconline.com) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:11:58 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle X-Sender: rif@quicksand.desert.kconline.com To: Blaz Zupan cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Also if you have a good idea how we could attack the problem, please speak > up. For now my idea is to find a common software and hardware > configuration and then try to sistematically remove components that could > cause the problem. A while back I ran into this problem and found that I was running into resource limits on open files, processes, etc. It may be worth while checking your settings in /etc/login.conf and keeping an eye on 'pstat -T' output. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 16:32:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06761 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:32:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes2.wustl.edu (barnes2.wustl.edu [128.252.162.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06753 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:32:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes2.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes2.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.8.8) id SAA00821 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:33:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wayne) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199902100033.SAA00821@barnes2.wustl.edu> Subject: passwd hang To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mail list at FreeBSD) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:33:19 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Chris Costello, Thank you for the advice to ktrace to analyze my hung commands passwd and send-pr. Whoa! There was a lot of output from kdump for my hung send-pr. I include here a shorter output from kdump for hung passwd: 792 ktrace RET ktrace 0 792 ktrace CALL readlink(0x280bcda4,0xefbfd4ec,0x3f) 792 ktrace NAMI "/etc/malloc.conf" 792 ktrace RET readlink -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 792 ktrace CALL mmap(0,0x1000,0x3,0x1002,0xffffffff,0,0,0) 792 ktrace RET mmap 671944704/0x280d1000 792 ktrace CALL break(0x804c000) 792 ktrace RET break 0 792 ktrace CALL break(0x804d000) 792 ktrace RET break 0 792 ktrace CALL execve(0xefbfd5f4,0xefbfdab8,0xefbfdac0) 792 ktrace NAMI "/home/wayne/passwd" 792 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 792 ktrace CALL execve(0xefbfd5f4,0xefbfdab8,0xefbfdac0) 792 ktrace NAMI "/bin/passwd" 792 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 792 ktrace CALL execve(0xefbfd5f4,0xefbfdab8,0xefbfdac0) 792 ktrace NAMI ".//passwd" 792 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 792 ktrace CALL execve(0xefbfd5f4,0xefbfdab8,0xefbfdac0) 792 ktrace NAMI "/usr/local/genome/bin/passwd" 792 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 792 ktrace CALL execve(0xefbfd5f4,0xefbfdab8,0xefbfdac0) 792 ktrace NAMI "/usr/bin/passwd" 792 ktrace NAMI "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1" This does nothing for me, although I can see that it is hunting through my path for the program passwd, which it finds in its proper place in /usr/bin. Can anyone else find a solution here? Wayne M. Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 17:17:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12491 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:17:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12486 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:17:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9103F1F812; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:17:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (veldy@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00072; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:17:51 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: veldy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:17:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Matt Behrens Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't think it is incompatibility with my card. I used the same cards for awhile under 2.2.8 without incident. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Matt Behrens wrote: > On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > : I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it > : would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet > : or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the > : network or from the Internet. > > It might be an incompatibility with your card, perhaps. I use ed0 > with a Kingston EtheRx and have no problems. > > - Matt Behrens > Network Administrator, zigg.com > Engineer, Nameless IRC Network > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 18:20:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20458 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from werple.mira.net (werple.mira.net [203.9.190.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20446 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gfm@mira.net) Received: (qmail 13529 invoked from network); 10 Feb 1999 02:20:22 -0000 Received: from dp-m-r041.werple.net.au (203.17.46.41) by mira.net with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 02:20:22 -0000 From: gfm@mira.net (Graham Menhennitt) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:19:58 GMT Message-ID: <36c1adfe.160810663@mira.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA20453 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:42:31 +0100 (CET), Blaz Zupan wrote: > My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few > 486 DX4 - 100MHz >Well, for now the common factor are a 486-class CPU and the ed0 card. My I have a 486 DX2 100 and a NE2000. I've been running 3.0 (originally -current and now -stable - reasonably up to date using cvsup) for about three months andI haven't had any problems. Graham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 18:26:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21364 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bolero-x.rahul.net (bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21351 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: from waltz.rahul.net by bolero-x.rahul.net with SMTP id AA16729 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:26:42 -0800 Received: by waltz.rahul.net (5.67b8/jive-a2i-1.0) id AA08300; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:26:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199902100226.AA08300@waltz.rahul.net> To: Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message from "Thomas T. Veldhouse" of Tue, 09 Feb 99 08:28:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 99 18:26:06 -0800 From: Rahul Dhesi Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a machine running 3.0-stable that reboots once every 2-3 days. I had crash dumps disabled, and there was no hint in /var/log/messages about why it rebooted. So I enabled crash dumps by setting dumpdev="/dev/da0s1b" in rc.conf. The next time the machine rebooted, I happened to have a video display connected to it and I happened to be nearbuy, and I saw the error message 'page fault in kernel mode" (or something similar). I had to run elsewhere while this was going on, so I missed the display during the filesystem sync and reboot that followed. Later I checked /var/log/messages and the only unusual thing I saw was the error message: savecore: no core dump and no other mention of any reason for the crash dump. I checked rc.conf and so far as I can tell crash dumps are enabled, and savecore goes to /var/crash, and there is 300 M free on it, and /var/crash/minfree says '2048'. I typed 'sysctl kern.dumpdev' and got 'kern.dumpdev: { major = 4, minor = 131073 }' which indicates that crash dumps are definitely enabled. I did 'ls -l /dev/da0s1b' (since da0s1b is my swap and dump device) and got: brw-r----- 1 root operator 4, 0x00020001 Jan 25 20:11 /dev/da0s1b which I think matches the output from sysctl above. da0s1b has 512M while physical memory is only 256M, so there should be plenty of space for the crash dump. More later if/when I get more info. BTW, SunOS does not require crash dumps to be enabled in order to find out the reason for the crash. SunOS logs a kernel backtrace into /var/log/messages after each panic. I don't think FreeBSD does. It would be nice if the panic message and a stack dump could be saved whether or not a full crash dump is being saved. Rahul > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 99 08:28:31 CST > From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" > To: "FreeBSD-Stable" > Message-Id: <005901be5438$778ccad0$236319ac@w142844.carlson.com> > Subject: Spontaneous reboots > My FreeBSD-Stable-3.0 machine has been spontaneously rebooting every few > hours now for the last few weeks. I do routine build worlds to try and > avoid this, but it still does it. There have been very few complaints about > this, so I have been suspecting my hardware. However, I have not been able > to find any errant hardware. I have noticed a few people on the lists > complain of the same problem, all the way back to 3.0-RELEASE. As of this > morning the machine has not rebooted in 12 hours, which is nearly a record. > However, there is one difference, I put Linux on there in the hopes of > either getting a more verbose hardware message or whatever, I don't know > what I hoped. I can say that it has displayed no symptoms since the > "downgrade". Anyway, there is obviously something going on here that shows > up on other peoples' machines from time to time that I hope does not make it > into the release. Here is my hardware configuration if it matters: > > 486 DX4 - 100MHz > 20 MB Memory > 220MB Hard-Drive > 325MB Hard-Drive > 2 - Linksys Ethernet ISA Cards (new) > > I suspect the issue is with the driver for the Linksys cards (ed0), as it > would sometimes reboot as soon as I made a connection to the box via telnet > or ssh, other times it would reboot when transfering alot of data across the > network or from the Internet. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@visi.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 18:32:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22162 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:32:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22155 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02049; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902100227.SAA02049@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Rahul Dhesi cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:26:06 PST." <199902100226.AA08300@waltz.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:27:36 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The next time the machine rebooted, I happened to have a video display > connected to it and I happened to be nearbuy, and I saw the error > message 'page fault in kernel mode" (or something similar). I had to > run elsewhere while this was going on, so I missed the display during > the filesystem sync and reboot that followed. Ack. The details associated with the pagefault in conjunction with your kernel would be critical in tracking this down. > BTW, SunOS does not require crash dumps to be enabled in order to find > out the reason for the crash. SunOS logs a kernel backtrace into > /var/log/messages after each panic. I don't think FreeBSD does. It > would be nice if the panic message and a stack dump could be saved > whether or not a full crash dump is being saved. FreeBSD tries to save the kernel message buffer over reboots, but your BIOS may be overwriting these. For obvious reasons, you can't expect to be able to write to the filesystem after a panic, and in some cases dumps can't be performed because the disk code is dead... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 19:28:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29411 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:28:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-out.visi.com (tele.visi.com [209.98.98.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29404 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8176F1F813; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:28:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (veldy@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA04910; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:28:34 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: veldy owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:28:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Mike Smith Cc: Rahul Dhesi , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <199902100227.SAA02049@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I posted such a message a few days ago. Saturday I believe. Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > The next time the machine rebooted, I happened to have a video display > > connected to it and I happened to be nearbuy, and I saw the error > > message 'page fault in kernel mode" (or something similar). I had to > > run elsewhere while this was going on, so I missed the display during > > the filesystem sync and reboot that followed. > > Ack. The details associated with the pagefault in conjunction with > your kernel would be critical in tracking this down. > > > BTW, SunOS does not require crash dumps to be enabled in order to find > > out the reason for the crash. SunOS logs a kernel backtrace into > > /var/log/messages after each panic. I don't think FreeBSD does. It > > would be nice if the panic message and a stack dump could be saved > > whether or not a full crash dump is being saved. > > FreeBSD tries to save the kernel message buffer over reboots, but your > BIOS may be overwriting these. For obvious reasons, you can't expect > to be able to write to the filesystem after a panic, and in some cases > dumps can't be performed because the disk code is dead... > > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 19:55:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02863 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:55:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02858 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:55:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA77997; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:55:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:55:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902100355.TAA77997@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :Hello Matthew, : :here's s.t. I can reproduce on all machines: If you try to :read audio data from a CDROM using cdda2wav (latest version; :shipped with cdrecord-1.8a16) and the resulting audio file :is on an NFS, it will be 50k-100k too small. I tried this :with all flavors NFS v2/v3 TCP/UDP--the same. : :cdda2wav writing to a local FS works perfectly. Not that I :need to use it w/ NFS--it's a bad idea anyway--but it may :help to get NFS more stable. : : Bjoern Bjoern, ktrace the program run. I suspect the problem is not NFS but that the write() latency is causing one of cdda2wav's forked processes to exit and kill its child before the child finishes writing. ktrace -t cn -i cdda2wav .... kdump -R | less Try to match up reads from the CD to writes to the output file. See if the final couple of read/write's match up. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 9 20:22:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05748 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org ([207.109.235.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05739 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@uffdaonline.net) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) id EAA07346; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:24:59 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19990209222459.A6347@znh.org> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:24:59 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: Matthew Dillon , Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> <199902092311.PAA61734@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199902092311.PAA61734@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 03:11:40PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 03:11:40PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Are these SCSI or IDE CDROM drives ? Or does it matter? cdda2wav will only work with SCSI drives [as of cdrecord-1.8a9, which I am using]. -- Zach Heilig / Zach Heilig "Americans are sensitive about their money, and since this was the first major change in the greenback in nearly 70 years, a radical redesign might have been too much for consumers to comprehend" -- John Iddings [COINage, Feb. 1999]. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 00:12:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28894 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28887 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA29189 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:12:13 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1531 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Feb 1999 08:07:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 08:07:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:07:34 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: John Dowdal cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, John Dowdal wrote: > Do you have DDB enabled? YOur spontaneous reboots might be panics with > the messages hidden "behind" xwindows so you never see them. If you turn > on DDB, it will crash to the debugger instead of just reboot. I did not have it enabled earlier, but I do have it enabled now (still waiting for a crash after removing bpfilter). And I don't believe there was any messages, because the reboot was so quick, that even if I would not run X, I could not see any message (the reboots appear almost as if someone would press the reset button, i.e. in one moment I'm typing something and in the middle of me typing something the messages BIOS greeting messages appear). Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 00:12:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA28933 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA28925 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id JAA29216 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:12:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1554 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Feb 1999 08:11:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 08:11:33 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:11:33 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Jim Riffle cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > A while back I ran into this problem and found that I was running into > resource limits on open files, processes, etc. It may be worth while > checking your settings in /etc/login.conf and keeping an eye on 'pstat -T' > output. I have the default login.conf, but I'll keep an eye on pstat -T. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 02:18:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07890 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:18:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07884 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:18:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id TAA02230; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:18:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36C15CCF.47081592@newsguy.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:17:51 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wayne M. Barnes" CC: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: passwd and send-pr References: <199902100013.SAA05787@barnes1.wustl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Wayne M. Barnes" wrote: > > Is there a command I can give to see what these programs are doing, > to see why they are hung up? Yes. Since I haven't done this in a long time now, though, I can only describe the process in very general terms. First, go to the appropriate /usr/src directories, and recompile the utilities in question with "-g". Install the new versions, run, and, when the program hands, start gdb and attach the desired process. You'll have to read on gdb documentation about attaching processes, but, then again, you'll have to read on gdb documentation anyhow (or, if you are already familiar with gdb, you probably won't have trouble finding the part about attaching processes). BTW, do you use -O2 or above when making world? If so, you better just recompile it with -O first, since that may be the source of the trouble. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 02:24:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08378 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exch.aktrad.ru (news.aktrad.ru [195.218.140.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08373 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hook@aktrad.ru) Received: from sloth (sloth.aktrad.ru [195.218.140.13]) by exch.aktrad.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA25359 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:24:48 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from hook@aktrad.ru) Message-ID: <010a01be54df$7f644330$0d8cdac3@sloth.aktrad.ru> Reply-To: "Gene Sokolov" From: "Gene Sokolov" To: Subject: Problem with anoncvs Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:24:10 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to get the FreeBSD 3.0 CVS tree. I do the following (directly from examples): % setenv CVSROOT anoncvs@anoncvs.freebsd.org:/cvs % cvs co -rRELENG_3 I get: [**begin**] select: protocol failure in circuit setup cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) [**end**] The anoncvs.freebsd.org is visible, I have no problem % telnet anoncvs.freebsd.org 2401 rsh gives me: % rsh -l anoncvs anoncvs.freebsd.org To use anonymous CVS on this server, set your CVSROOT environment variable to the following value: anoncvs@anoncvs.freebsd.org:/cvs rlogin: connection closed. What's wrong? Thanks. Gene Sokolov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 04:45:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21838 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21833 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:45:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i352.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.113]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20799 from for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:45:34 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.2/8.9.1) id NAA44959 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:19:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@scc.nl) Received: from GATEWAY by scones.sup.scc.nl with netnews for stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable@FreeBSD.ORG) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:19:23 +0100 From: Marcel Moolenaar Message-ID: <36C1794B.F14AF78@scc.nl> Organization: SCC vof Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: , Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Blaz Zupan wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, John Dowdal wrote: > > Do you have DDB enabled? YOur spontaneous reboots might be panics with > > the messages hidden "behind" xwindows so you never see them. If you turn > > on DDB, it will crash to the debugger instead of just reboot. > > I did not have it enabled earlier, but I do have it enabled now (still > waiting for a crash after removing bpfilter). And I don't believe there > was any messages, because the reboot was so quick, that even if I would > not run X, I could not see any message (the reboots appear almost as if > someone would press the reset button, i.e. in one moment I'm typing > something and in the middle of me typing something the messages BIOS > greeting messages appear). Just a thought: Petri Helenius (pete@sms.fi) posted his dmesg last tuesday. I noticed it had the following lines: de0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen lo0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen I have never seen this on my systems, although I'm using both drivers. I do not suffer any reboots. Given the name of the parameter (ifq_maxlen) I can imagine that it could cause problems when there is any network load. Maybe in relation with bpfilter... Anyway; I don't know if it is related (probably not), but I thought it would be good to draw attention to it. marcel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 05:31:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26011 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.8.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25998 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:31:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost.beta.com [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18723 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:32:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <199902101332.IAA18723@spoon.beta.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:32:32 -0500 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a thought I noticed in reading all the mail. It appears that most of the people who upgraded from 2.2.x to 3.0-STABLE are the ones with the most problems. People (like myself) who went to 3.0 on a clean install, and then started tracking stable seem to be doing ok. I went so far as to build a release of 3.0-STABLE, and install from that. I've had a days worth of uptime with each of the versions, and haven't had a single problem with reboots that people have been complaining about all along the upgrade path. Heck, I can even try to write to read only media (ie - a CD), and it just comes back and complains ": Read-only file system". No panics on the unmount, either. You may want to consider freshly clean install of -STABLE, or at least upgrade to 3.0 before following the stable path. Might find it works better. I also think I remember an email from Jordan saying (paraphrasing) that the upgrade path is filled with pitfalls.... -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 05:43:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27130 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:43:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26950 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id PAA22075; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:38:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:38:35 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous Reboots Message-ID: <19990210153835.A22049@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: "Brian J. McGovern" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199902101332.IAA18723@spoon.beta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: <199902101332.IAA18723@spoon.beta.com>; from Brian J. McGovern on Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 08:32:32AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 08:32:32AM -0500, Brian J. McGovern wrote: > Just a thought I noticed in reading all the mail. It appears that most of the > people who upgraded from 2.2.x to 3.0-STABLE are the ones with the most > problems. People (like myself) who went to 3.0 on a clean install, and then > started tracking stable seem to be doing ok. I went so far as to build a > release of 3.0-STABLE, and install from that. I've had a days worth of uptime > with each of the versions, and haven't had a single problem with reboots > that people have been complaining about all along the upgrade path. > > Heck, I can even try to write to read only media (ie - a CD), and it just > comes back and complains ": Read-only file system". No panics on > the unmount, either. > > You may want to consider freshly clean install of -STABLE, or at least > upgrade to 3.0 before following the stable path. Might find it works better. > I also think I remember an email from Jordan saying (paraphrasing) that the > upgrade path is filled with pitfalls.... > There is no difference here. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 07:16:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09928 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes2.wustl.edu (barnes2.wustl.edu [128.252.162.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09906 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes2.wustl.edu) Received: (from root@localhost) by barnes2.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.8.8) id JAA01942 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:18:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from wayne) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199902101518.JAA01942@barnes2.wustl.edu> Subject: send-pr hangs To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 09:18:05 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Chris Costello, You asked for the ktrace/kdump output from my nonfunctional send-pr on one of my 3.0-stable machines. I performed the following: ktrace send-pr [ ... nothing happens. I wait 10 sec. and press Ctrl-C ] kdump > send-pr.kdump Not wanting to burden this list with 18 k of output, I put this file onto the fledgling web page at http://barnes2.wustl.edu Can you interpret it? I can't. On my other 3.0-stable machine, both send-pr and passwd work just fine. Thank you, Wayne M. Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 10:22:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29727 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:22:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29704 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA26592 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:22:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 2579 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Feb 1999 18:20:10 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Feb 1999 18:20:10 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:20:10 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Marcel Moolenaar cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontaneous reboots In-Reply-To: <36C1794B.F14AF78@scc.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > Petri Helenius (pete@sms.fi) posted his dmesg last tuesday. I noticed it had > the following lines: > > de0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen > lo0 XXX: driver didn't set ifq_maxlen This is nothing critical. It was added in 4.0-current as a reminder to network driver programmers. And I don't actually see this message on my box, as I don't even have the ethernet card configured anymore ;) Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 11:02:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04243 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [38.155.241.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04238 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by hub.lovett.com with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Aety-0003VH-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:02:22 -0600 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: More 3.0-STABLE woes Message-Id: From: Ade Lovett Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:02:22 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Add another one to the spontaneous reboots for 3.0-STABLE Machine (512Mb dual Xeon/400) was fresh installed with 3.0-RELEASE, cvsup to RELENG_3 as of 1900 CST 02/09/1999. Everything went fine during the build, with no problems encountered, but since rebooting into 3.0-STABLE, I'm experiencing effectively random crashes. However, I can reproduce the problem completely by launching enlightenment/gnome as my window manager. Backtrace looks a little screwy, even when I install the debug-full kernel without saving/stripping it.. machine has 512Mb of RAM and a 768Mb swap partition. System board is a Supermicro P6DGH with MPP level set to 1.1 in the BIOS - setting it to 1.4 prevents the machine from booting at all. Suggestions? -aDe --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8103595 Feb 10 12:43 /var/crash/kernel.0 -rw------- 1 root wheel 536870912 Feb 10 12:43 /var/crash/vmcore.0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 2928640 initial pcb at 24d2e0 panicstr: isa_dmacheck: no physical page present panic messages: --- dmesg: kernel message buffer has different magic number --- #0 boot (howto=Cannot access memory at address 0xfc1fbcc4. ) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Wed Feb 10 12:37:53 CST 1999 root@banzai.lovett.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BANZAI-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) avail memory = 519663616 (507484K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02c1000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x00 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 chip4: rev 0x03 on pci0.12.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 16 on pci0.14.0 ahc0: aic7896/97 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc1: rev 0x00 int a irq 16 on pci0.14.1 ahc1: aic7896/97 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 17 on pci0.16.0 de0: rev 0x22 int a irq 18 on pci0.18.0 de0: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:40:05:a3:cb:29 de1: rev 0x22 int a irq 19 on pci0.20.0 de1: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de1: address 00:40:05:37:26:be Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x07eb459a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0x07eb459a) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pcm0 not found fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa isa_dmainit(2, 1024) failed fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry IP Filter: initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled Waiting 2 seconds for SCSI devices to settle SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! de0: enabling 100baseTX port de1: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted cd0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.0MB/s transfers (20.0MHz, offset 16) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present --------------------------------------------------------------------------- # BANZAI-SMP: Dual Xeon/400 workstation # machine "i386" ident BANZAI-SMP maxusers 256 cpu "I686_CPU" config kernel root on da0 options PQ_NOOPT options SMP options APIC_IO options "NO_F00F_HACK" options "COMPAT_43" options USER_LDT options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "MD5" options KTRACE options PERFMON options UCONSOLE options INET options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" options IPDIVERT options IPFILTER options IPFILTER_LOG options "ICMP_BANDLIM" options FFS options NFS options "CD9660" options PROCFS options FFS_ROOT options "P1003_1B" options "_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING" options "_KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L" options "AUTO_EOI_1" pseudo-device ether pseudo-device loop pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device pty 256 pseudo-device gzip pseudo-device vn pseudo-device splash controller scbus0 device da0 device cd0 controller isa0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts device sc0 at isa? tty device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device apm0 at isa? controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq ? drq ? controller pci0 controller ahc0 device de0 controller ppbus0 device nlpt0 at ppbus? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 11:02:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04442 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04422 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA21938; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:02:41 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Daren Sefcik Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LVD Support?? Message-ID: <19990210110241.B21835@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <002f01be547a$4c5d9fa0$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <002f01be547a$4c5d9fa0$ca98f026@partnersdsi.com>; from Daren Sefcik on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 02:19:42PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there any support for the Adaptec 2940U2W > or similar LVD controller yet for FreeBSD3.0?? 3.0-RELEASE supports it. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 11:20:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06041 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:20:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hub.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [38.155.241.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06036 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ade@remarq.com) Received: from [38.155.241.8] (helo=xanadu) by hub.lovett.com with smtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10AfBT-0003WM-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:20:27 -0600 From: "Ade Lovett" To: "Blaz Zupan" Cc: Subject: RE: More 3.0-STABLE woes Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:17:00 -0600 Message-ID: <003101be5529$eed04800$08f19b26@lovett.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Try removing this: > > > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 > > ...from your kernel config file and run with this kernel for a while and > report if your reboots go away. Nope. Exactly the same dump. -aDe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 12:55:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18118 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:55:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18102 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA93379; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:54:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:54:54 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: Ade Lovett cc: Blaz Zupan , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: More 3.0-STABLE woes In-Reply-To: <003101be5529$eed04800$08f19b26@lovett.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As described before, I had a machine configured as a bridge with ed0 a SMC Elite 16+ (10mbit side), and a wb0 device (cheap clone) on the 100mbit side. I got repeated panics. I tore apart and reassembled the machine after getting POed, and also turned off the bridging and ifconfig ed0 down. Without ed0 no crashes (up 8 days). Other people have reported having ed0 in common with these crashes. I have had no trouble with the wb0 card alone. Ed0 is directly connected to an empty hub; wb0 is connected directly to a windoze machine with a crossover cable. Could the problem be related to all transmit and no receive on ed0? ed0 worked fine when it was connected to my windoze machine (instead of wb0). I have reason to suspect ed0 because the machine only crashed when winamp downloaded a mp3 through samba. It never crashed when it was local, or when I used the bsd machine's console instead of the windows machine as an xterminal. This weekend or next time i have time to burn 4 hours beating on this thing if it doesn't want to behave, I'll try rebooting with ed0 enabled after installing a replacement CPU fan. I'll report the presence or absense of crashes with or without ed0/bridging. John On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Ade Lovett wrote: > > Try removing this: > > > > > pseudo-device bpfilter 4 > > > > ...from your kernel config file and run with this kernel for a while and > > report if your reboots go away. > > Nope. Exactly the same dump. > > -aDe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 15:24:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06603 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from teimes.gr (pandora.teimes.gr [194.177.216.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06513 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from isachpaz@pandora.teimes.gr) Received: from localhost (isachpaz@localhost) by teimes.gr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA03797 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:23:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from isachpaz@pandora.teimes.gr) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:23:34 +0200 (EET) From: Ilias Sachpazidis To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: calcru Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I got that message : calcru: negative time of -77345163 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77344994 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77344852 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77276366 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77276200 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77276060 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77209034 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) What is that ? There is any problem ? I have 3.0-19990206-STABLE regards --- Ilias Sachpazidis e-mail: isachpaz@teimes.gr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:05:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22267 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:05:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from guepardo.vicosa.com.br (guepardo.tdnet.com.br [200.236.148.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22240; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:05:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grios@netshell.vicosa.com.br) Received: from netshell.vicosa.com.br [200.236.148.201] by guepardo.vicosa.com.br with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AF6529700DA; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:16:21 +03d00 Message-ID: <36C2284E.8891D1E7@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:46:06 -0200 From: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: BSD-Security , BSD-Stable Subject: Sorry, but Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am sorry if this mailing list is not devoted to my words, but does anybody here know QNX? I know it one week ago, i simply cannot believe it! It's fantastic!!!!!!!!! I have were wonderfull about FreeBSD, but QNX is fantastic, it is equal to pow(very fantastic,very fantastic)! So i have one question to Core Team Developer (sorry if this question is too stupid, please, dont kill for this) Q: Why not develop some thing like QNX ? A Real Time OS for Free and as good as QNX(i believe that the core team will need to be as good as QNX TEAM) would be a killer!!!!!!!!!! As i saw in a zine: QNX is not UNIX, is better!!!!!!!!!!!! PS: It's just a beginner question! i DONT intend to tease any FreeBSD lover! Give some answer! -- I use UNIX because reboots are for hardware upgrades. You use windowze because the guy on TV told you to ... Gustavo Rios - UNIX System Admin. - UIN 27456973 +---------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:20:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24401 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24391 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from port12.annex8.radix.net (port12.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.12]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21102 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:20:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:21:07 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Seal To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing share/examples Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 3.0-stable When installing /usr/src/share/examples I keep getting errors such as: install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h /usr/share/examp les/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h install: /usr/share/examples/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h: No such file or directory Which is true, so I have to create the directory manually. But there are SO many directories I have to create! And all it has in the source tree for @ is a symlink to /usr/include! Why isn't this directory crap in the mtree files! ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make | really crappy operating systems." Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds hosting and Design http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:37:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25871 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:37:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hyperhost.net (ether.lightrealm.com [207.159.132.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25864; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patseal@hyperhost.net) Received: from port12.annex8.radix.net (port12.annex8.radix.net [205.252.108.12]) by hyperhost.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23620; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:37:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:37:54 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Seal To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BUG: Re: Installing share/examples In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did some exploring and I think I found the problem. Here's the Makefile for /usr/src/share/examples DIRS!= for i in *; do if test -d $$i -a $$i != CVS; then echo $$i; fi; done DDIR= ${DESTDIR}/usr/share/examples NOOBJ= noobj # Define SHARED to indicate whether you want symbolic links to the system # source (``symlinks''), or a separate copy (``copies''); (latter useful # in environments where it's not possible to keep /sys publicly readable) SHARED?= copies all clean cleandir depend lint tags: beforeinstall: ${SHARED} .for dir in ${DIRS} FILES!= find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f -print .for file in ${FILES} copies:: ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 ${file} ${DDIR}/${file} .endfor .endfor .for dir in ${DIRS} symlinks:: rm -rf ${DDIR}/${dir}; ln -s ${.CURDIR}/${dir} ${DDIR} .endfor .include There are quite a few symlinks to /usr/include and /usr/include/machine from this tree example: patseal@foobar{312}# pwd /usr/src/share/examples/lkm/misc/module patseal@foobar{313}# ll total 16 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Feb 10 19:47 @ -> /usr/include -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1925 Feb 22 1997 Makefile lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Feb 10 19:47 machine -> /usr/include/machine -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1538 Feb 10 19:47 misc_mod.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3064 Dec 30 1997 misccall.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 425 Feb 10 19:47 misccall.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6008 Aug 8 1998 miscmod.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1146 Feb 10 19:47 miscmod.o The Makefile isn't taking into accout about the symlinks, and instead of copying the symlinks, install what they point to. (I could be wrong but this is the only thing I can think of) Anyone know how to fix this? ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make | really crappy operating systems." Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds hosting and Design http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Patrick Seal wrote: > 3.0-stable > > When installing /usr/src/share/examples I keep getting errors such as: > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h > /usr/share/examp > les/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h > install: /usr/share/examples/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h: No such file or > directory > > Which is true, so I have to create the directory manually. But there are > SO many directories I have to create! And all it has in the source tree > for @ is a symlink to /usr/include! > > Why isn't this directory crap in the mtree files! > > ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ > Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make > | really crappy operating systems." > Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds > hosting and Design > > http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:40:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26403 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26374 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 25021 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 01:40:37 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 01:40:37 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990210173901.00a67500@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp2@mail-r X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:35 -0800 To: Ilias Sachpazidis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: calcru In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:23 PM 2/10/99 , Ilias Sachpazidis wrote: >I got that message : > >calcru: negative time of -77345163 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77344994 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77344852 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77276366 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77276200 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77276060 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77209034 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >What is that ? There is any problem ? Search the mailing list archives (maybe -questions). There was a big discussion about this a few months ago. It means that you have funny hardware (ISA cards?) and maybe also a driver that aggravates it. --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 ( ludwigp@email.com ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:40:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26443 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles202.castles.com [208.214.165.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26417; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01827; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:36:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902110136.RAA01827@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Patrick Seal cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BUG: Re: Installing share/examples In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:37:54 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:36:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just did some exploring and I think I found the problem. The "problem" is that you've built examples directly in the examples directory, and not cleaned them up. Don't do that. 8) > Here's the Makefile for /usr/src/share/examples > > DIRS!= for i in *; do if test -d $$i -a $$i != CVS; then echo $$i; fi; > done > > DDIR= ${DESTDIR}/usr/share/examples > > NOOBJ= noobj > > # Define SHARED to indicate whether you want symbolic links to the system > # source (``symlinks''), or a separate copy (``copies''); (latter useful > # in environments where it's not possible to keep /sys publicly readable) > SHARED?= copies > > all clean cleandir depend lint tags: > > beforeinstall: ${SHARED} > > .for dir in ${DIRS} > FILES!= find -L ${dir} \( -name CVS -prune \) -o -type f -print > .for file in ${FILES} > copies:: > ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 ${file} > ${DDIR}/${file} > .endfor > .endfor > > .for dir in ${DIRS} > symlinks:: > rm -rf ${DDIR}/${dir}; ln -s ${.CURDIR}/${dir} ${DDIR} > .endfor > > .include > > > There are quite a few symlinks to /usr/include and /usr/include/machine > from this tree example: > > patseal@foobar{312}# pwd > /usr/src/share/examples/lkm/misc/module > patseal@foobar{313}# ll > total 16 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 12 Feb 10 19:47 @ -> /usr/include > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1925 Feb 22 1997 Makefile > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20 Feb 10 19:47 machine -> > /usr/include/machine > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1538 Feb 10 19:47 misc_mod.o > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3064 Dec 30 1997 misccall.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 425 Feb 10 19:47 misccall.o > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6008 Aug 8 1998 miscmod.c > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1146 Feb 10 19:47 miscmod.o > > > The Makefile isn't taking into accout about the symlinks, and instead of > copying the symlinks, install what they point to. (I could be wrong but > this is the only thing I can think of) > > Anyone know how to fix this? > > ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ > Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make > | really crappy operating systems." > Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds > hosting and Design > > http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org > > > > > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Patrick Seal wrote: > > > 3.0-stable > > > > When installing /usr/src/share/examples I keep getting errors such as: > > > > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 644 kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h > > /usr/share/examp > > les/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h > > install: /usr/share/examples/kld/cdev/module/@/arpa/ftp.h: No such file or > > directory > > > > Which is true, so I have to create the directory manually. But there are > > SO many directories I have to create! And all it has in the source tree > > for @ is a symlink to /usr/include! > > > > Why isn't this directory crap in the mtree files! > > > > ------------------------------------ _____________________________________ > > Patrick Seal |"Microsoft isn't evil, they just make > > | really crappy operating systems." > > Hyperhost - http://www.hyperhost.net| -Linus Torvalds > > hosting and Design > > > > http://www.freebsd.org - http://www.linux.org > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:46:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26941 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:46:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles202.castles.com [208.214.165.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26928 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:46:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01864; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:41:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902110141.RAA01864@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ludwig Pummer cc: Ilias Sachpazidis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: calcru In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:40:35 PST." <4.1.19990210173901.00a67500@mail-r> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:41:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 03:23 PM 2/10/99 , Ilias Sachpazidis wrote: > >I got that message : > > > >calcru: negative time of -77345163 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77344994 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77344852 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77276366 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77276200 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77276060 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77209034 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > > > >What is that ? There is any problem ? > > Search the mailing list archives (maybe -questions). There was a big > discussion about this a few months ago. It means that you have funny > hardware (ISA cards?) and maybe also a driver that aggravates it. No, it means that our timecounter code is broken, and the author has been unwilling/unable to fix it for > 6 months. (He also got roundly canned for his presentation of it at Usenix, BTW.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:51:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27526 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:51:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27516 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id UAA16708 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:02:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902110202.UAA16708@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: w To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:02:38 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Stabilizers, The w command is broken on this system. It's the only broken thing I have noticed yet. This system was upgraded from 2.2.8 to 3.0-stable by the book at http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html The garbage under the ----- below varies from time to time I think. Note that the user count = 0 is wrong, also. w: /dev//ε+Β6ttyp1: No such file or directory 7:54PM up 1 day, 6:30, 0 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ------------ w: /dev//ε+Β6ttyp1: No such file or directory 7:50PM up 1 day, 6:25, 0 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT Her is the date of this system: wayne@barnes1:/home/wayne>wherex w -r-xr-sr-x 2 root kmem 10368 Feb 9 12:30 /usr/bin/w* wayne@barnes1:/home/wayne>uname -a FreeBSD barnes1.wustl.edu 3.0-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 9 13:14:45 CST 1999 wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu:/usr/src.3.0-stable/sys/compile/GENEONE i386 wayne@barnes1:/home/wayne> I tried doing a fresh sh MAKEDEV all, to no avail. I notice that the date on /dev/MAKEDEV is April 15, 1998. Is it possible that my upgrade [ make aout-to-elf-build; make aout-to-elf install ] missed it? Thank you for your attention. Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 17:57:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28360 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28354 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:57:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10AlNp-0003rf-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:57:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:57:34 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Wayne M. Barnes" cc: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: w In-Reply-To: <199902110202.UAA16708@barnes1.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: > Dear Stabilizers, > > The w command is broken on this system. It's the only Your data files are broken actually. Do: cp /dev/null /var/log/wtmp cp /dev/null /var/log/lastlog cp /dev/null /var/run/utmp and you should be ok. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 18:17:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01071 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01054 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:17:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id UAA16835 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:28:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902110228.UAA16835@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: w loses USER count To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:28:50 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Tom, Thank you, that fixed part of my w problem, but it still counts the users wrong, and doesn't show what users are (am) doing: 8:16PM up 1 day, 6:52, 0 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT Sincerely, Wayne M Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu ----- Forwarded message from Tom ----- On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: > Dear Stabilizers, > > The w command is broken on this system. It's the only Your data files are broken actually. Do: cp /dev/null /var/log/wtmp cp /dev/null /var/log/lastlog cp /dev/null /var/run/utmp and you should be ok. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 18:25:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02101 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02092 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10AloO-0007c2-00; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:25:04 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Wayne M. Barnes" cc: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: w loses USER count In-Reply-To: <199902110228.UAA16835@barnes1.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: > Dear Tom, > > Thank you, that fixed part of my w problem, > but it still counts the users wrong, and doesn't show what users > are (am) doing: > > 8:16PM up 1 day, 6:52, 0 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > > Sincerely, Wayne M Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu You are going to have to log off and log back on to fix that. That completely wipes your records, so as far as w/last are concerned, no one is logged in. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 18:45:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04826 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04805 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:45:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 25250 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1999 02:45:20 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 1999 02:45:20 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990210184153.009d9b60@mail-r> X-Sender: ludwigp@mail-r X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:43:49 -0800 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: calcru In-Reply-To: <199902110141.RAA01864@dingo.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 05:41 PM 2/10/99 , Mike Smith wrote: >> >calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) >> It means that you have funny >> hardware (ISA cards?) and maybe also a driver that aggravates it. > >No, it means that our timecounter code is broken, and the author has >been unwilling/unable to fix it for > 6 months. > >(He also got roundly canned for his presentation of it at Usenix, BTW.) Too bad about the presentation. But that means my Cyrix MediaGX system isn't really broken! Yay! (it runs well enough but after a while i get calcru: negative time of -5000 usec every day) --Ludwig Pummer ( ludwigp@bigfoot.com ) ICQ UIN: 692441 ( ludwigp@email.com ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 19:08:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07562 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:08:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from firewall.scitec.com.au (fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07555 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id OAA04989; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:08:15 +1100 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma004983; Thu, 11 Feb 99 14:08:12 +1100 Received: from saruman (saruman.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.108]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA19572 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:08:12 +1100 From: "John Saunders" To: "FreeBSD stable" Subject: Panic while rebooting Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:08:11 +1100 Message-ID: <001901be556b$c21af200$6cb611cb@saruman.scitec.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG root@monster:/var/crash {503} # gdb -k -c vmcore.0 kernel.0 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. I rebooted my machine to change the IP address last night, I have crash dumps enabled because I am trying to track a stability problem in 3.0-stable. This is what I caught... GDB 4.16 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 2859008 initial pcb at 2498a4 panicstr: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs panic messages: --- panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs dumping to dev 20001, offset 262144 dump 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 0xf012da7f in boot () (kgdb) bt #0 0xf012da7f in boot () #1 0xf012dd1d in panic () #2 0xf01515e8 in vinvalbuf () #3 0xf0152492 in vclean () #4 0xf01523f1 in vflush () #5 0xf01c2d11 in ffs_flushfiles () #6 0xf01c2bec in ffs_unmount () #7 0xf01540b4 in dounmount () #8 0xf0152d61 in vfs_unmountall () #9 0xf012da2b in boot () #10 0xf012d829 in reboot () #11 0xf01f2beb in syscall () #12 0xf01e89ec in Xint0x80_syscall () #13 0x80480e9 in ?? () (kgdb) -- . +-------------------------------------------------------+ ,--_|\ | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au | / Oz \ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61294289563 Fax +61294289933 | \_,--\_/ | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | v +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 19:12:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07995 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ibm.net. (slip166-72-224-177.pa.us.ibm.net [166.72.224.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07981 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:12:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from placej@ibm.net) Received: (from placej@localhost) by ibm.net. (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA00215; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:10:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from placej) Message-ID: <19990210221054.24492@ka3tis.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:10:54 -0500 From: "John C. Place" To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry, but Reply-To: "John C. Place" References: <36C2284E.8891D1E7@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <36C2284E.8891D1E7@netshell.vicosa.com.br>; from Gustavo Vieira G C Rios on Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 10:46:06PM -0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 10:46:06PM -0200, Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > I am sorry if this mailing list is not devoted to my words, but does > anybody here know QNX? > Have been running it for about Seven Years > I know it one week ago, i simply cannot believe it! It's > fantastic!!!!!!!!! > It is kinda neat and version 4 is much better it actully resembles UNIX the old QNX-2 days it was quite harry but I could remember not too long ago having 80286 20Mhz servers. Also QNX's native peer to peer networking (fleet) is quite fast. > I have were wonderfull about FreeBSD, but QNX is fantastic, it is equal > to pow(very fantastic,very fantastic)! > It is more specialized though I run FreeBSD at the office for my machine because much more software will port more easily. QNX is more targeted to the embeded world. Want something real cool, look at nutrino and photon. As far as the core team devoloping this product I would not dare to guess why or why not. L8er John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 19:58:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13132 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:58:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox.com (planetx-1-27.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.119.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13118 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C7646B04; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:58:44 -0600 (CST) To: Tom Cc: "Wayne M. Barnes" , stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: w In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:57:34 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:58:44 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <19990211035844.62C7646B04@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Tom w rote: } On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: } } > Dear Stabilizers, } > } > The w command is broken on this system. It's the only } } Your data files are broken actually. Do: } } cp /dev/null /var/log/wtmp } cp /dev/null /var/log/lastlog } cp /dev/null /var/run/utmp } } and you should be ok. The format of utmp has changed, and anything else that writes utmp records will also have to be rebuilt if it's not a part of the world. Likely candidates are xterm and other windowing terminal emulators, screen, etc. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 22:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02103 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02098 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990211064827.SMSR12321.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a> for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:27 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990210224822.00a27c40@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:48:22 -0800 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: wrong config version for kernel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just did a CTM update and a make world in my first ever attempt to upgrade a system, and it appeared to work fine. However, when I try config on a new kernel, it says i'm using the wrong version of config. I looked through the archives, and saw this problem mentioned, but I can't get much from it. It's mentioned (as in the error message) that installing a new config binary will solve this, but I don't know how. It was also mentioned that it was due to not keeping the tools and the kernel source in sync - what does this mean? Thanks, Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific." --Lily Tomlin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 22:49:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02194 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02183; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27132; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:49:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36C27D79.A79C277B@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:49:29 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gustavo Vieira G C Rios CC: BSD-Security , BSD-Stable Subject: Re: Sorry, but References: <36C2284E.8891D1E7@netshell.vicosa.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gustavo Vieira G C Rios wrote: > > I am sorry if this mailing list is not devoted to my words, but does > anybody here know QNX? > I know it one week ago, i simply cannot believe it! It's > fantastic!!!!!!!!! > I have were wonderfull about FreeBSD, but QNX is fantastic, it is equal > to pow(very fantastic,very fantastic)! > So i have one question to Core Team Developer (sorry if this question is > too stupid, please, dont kill for this) > > Q: Why not develop some thing like QNX ? > A Real Time OS for Free and as good as QNX(i believe that the core team > will need to be as good as QNX TEAM) would be a killer!!!!!!!!!! > As i saw in a zine: QNX is not UNIX, is better!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know about "as good as QNX", but somebody already has. See http://www.rtmx.com/, and then read the following article: http://www.daemonnews.org/199811/d-advocate.html Thanks for your enthusiasm. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:13:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04474 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04469; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13453; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:12:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02509; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:14:08 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@shuttle.svib.ru) Message-Id: <199902110714.KAA02509@shuttle.svib.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: PNP settings: how to save? X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:14:07 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I've noticed that my system upgraded to -STABLE from 3.0-RELEASE doesn't save PNP settings. dset has been removed from source tree and rc. Am I supposed to set up PNP on each boot? Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ΑΒ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05323 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05298; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id CAA18805; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:12:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9902110212.ZM18803@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:12:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: Studded "Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable?" (Jan 12, 10:53am) References: <199810091927.MAA14061@implode.root.com> <9810241606.ZM2203@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <3632EBD7.717C0B6F@gorean.org> <9901120301.ZM2476@beatrice.rutgers.edu> <369A1EC2.61BEA6E1@gorean.org> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Studded Subject: Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Jan 12, 10:53am, Studded (possibly) wrote: > Allen Smith wrote: > > > > Well... currently, Dave Mills has stated that they aren't maintaining > > xntpd any longer; any updates are through patches they've accepted, > > but have not necessarily done testing on. > > Let's put it this way. Their version of xntpd is much better supported > than ours is. :) Well, yes. > > ntpd-4.0.91 appears sufficiently stable that they're going to make > > it into ntpd-4.1 and an official 'release' pretty soon. I may have spoken a bit too soon... > Well it's too late to do anything with 2.2-Stable. Therefore > contrib'ifying the release of ntpd for 3.something would be the way to > go at this point. After: A. there is indeed a stable ntpd-4.1; B. I can safely upgrade our 2.2-stable system to 3-stable; and C. I'm through with some other stuff; I'll look at doing so... but might Poul Henning-Kamp be a more logical individual for this? -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05324 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05311 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (root@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA18708; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:37 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA01910; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:20:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: charon@freethought.org cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wrong config version for kernel In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990210224822.00a27c40@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 charon@freethought.org wrote: >I just did a CTM update and a make world in my first ever attempt to >upgrade a system, and it appeared to work fine. However, when I try config >on a new kernel, it says i'm using the wrong version of config. I looked >through the archives, and saw this problem mentioned, but I can't get much >from it. It's mentioned (as in the error message) that installing a new >config binary will solve this, but I don't know how. It was also mentioned >that it was due to not keeping the tools and the kernel source in sync - >what does this mean? Thanks, To rebuild config cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config make clean make all install make clean Some may say I do too much cleaning but I don't really know how all of that compiling stuff works so I just make sure everything is fresh. For the best results you should do a 'make world'. Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06208 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:26:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lohi.clinet.fi (lohi.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06188 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hsu@mail.clinet.fi) Received: from katiska.clinet.fi (katiska.clinet.fi [194.100.0.4]) by lohi.clinet.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA16745; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:27:17 +0200 (EET) Received: (from hsu@localhost) by katiska.clinet.fi (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA00752; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:25:57 +0200 (EET) To: Bill Fumerola Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-19990202-SNAP a.out problem References: From: Heikki Suonsivu Date: 11 Feb 1999 09:25:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bill Fumerola's message of 3 Feb 1999 22:55:14 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 54 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Fumerola writes: > On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Mike Holling wrote: > > I suspect that this decision will be reversed, or a huge majority of the > > -stable crowd will stick with 2.2.8 forever. It's pretty unlikely that > > everything can be recompiled for ELF that quickly. > That quickly? There has been considerable (6 month?) warning. > - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - > - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - As far as I understood there will always be compatibility, so I do not really mind, if it not too complicated to handle. The advantage in going to ELF like everyone else seems to do allows using up-to-date binaries tools, so that is a big improvement. Sidenote; we have been running FreeBSD for quite a while, so I quickly did some counting on our /usr/local/bin to see how much I would appreciate keeping backwards compatibility around. We have total of 1150 links in /usr/local/bin. Some of those are symlinks, but I do not think that makes that much difference. Out of that we have the following distribution by year: Year Files % 1998 275 23.91 (includes 1999) 1997 363 31.56 1996 191 16.60 1995 255 22.17 1994 61 5.30 1993 5 0.43 ---------------------- total 1150 100.00 1993 binaries are known by file to be NetBSD binaries. I think we started by using early NetBSD and switched over to 1.1.x somewhere around 1993-1994. >From the oldest binaries I think some are such that there is no more sources available, it does not compile any more or new version now requires something we do not have like motif. I guess we can cope without things like "mosaic.2.0", so that probably would not be that much an issue. These binaries originate from several different hundred packages, so digging up all necessary source code the recompile them would be a quite an effort, as some older packages usually have tendency no to compile any more. Ports does not help too much as many ports seem to change defaults, which forces us to manually compile everything anyway and use ports as reference only. -- Heikki Suonsivu / Clinet Oy / Tekniikantie 12 / FI-02150 Espoo / FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-9-43542270 fax -4555276 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:27:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06256 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:27:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06116 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id JAA37196; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:23:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:23:20 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Jon-Pierre Stoermer Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Trouble upgrading to 3.0-STABLE Message-ID: <19990211092320.A35708@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Jon-Pierre Stoermer , FreeBSD Stable References: <002801be551b$16262870$07e2a8ce@prometheus.aob.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: <002801be551b$16262870$07e2a8ce@prometheus.aob.org>; from Jon-Pierre Stoermer on Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 10:30:43AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 10:30:43AM -0700, Jon-Pierre Stoermer wrote: > Hey there- > I've read every possible piece of documentation that I could find > on this and I'm still having trouble. I have a current 3.0-STABLE > source tree in /usr/src and when I do a "sudo make -DNOPROFILE > buildworld" > I get this result. This also happens if I don't use -DNOPROFILE. > Any ideas? Help Documents? Thanks alot. I'm upgrading from > 2.2.7-STABLE > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:46:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07635 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:46:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07630 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:46:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA24997; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:46:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Allen Smith" cc: Studded , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:12:43 EST." <9902110212.ZM18803@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:46:08 +0100 Message-ID: <24995.918719168@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <9902110212.ZM18803@beatrice.rutgers.edu>, "Allen Smith" writes: >I'll look at doing so... but might Poul Henning-Kamp be a more logical >individual for this? ENOTIME -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 10 23:57:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09215 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:57:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from repop1.jps.net (repop1.jps.net [209.63.224.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09210 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ishikida@jps.net) Received: from default (206-18-116-81.lax.jps.net [206.18.116.81]) by repop1.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27276 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:57:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36C28BE8.2C9DB94B@jps.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:51:04 -0800 From: Takashi Ishikida X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Corel-MessageType: EMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 4cfd31bc subscribe freebsd-stable ishikida@jps.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 00:18:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11752 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:18:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA11735; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:18:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990211081813.SXFI12321.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:18:13 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:18:09 -0800 To: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990211003722.A38026@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:37 AM 2/11/99 +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote: >charon@freethought.org wrote: > >> I just did a CTM update and a make world in my first ever attempt to >> upgrade a system, and it appeared to work fine. However, when I try config >> on a new kernel, it says i'm using the wrong version of config. I looked >> through the archives, and saw this problem mentioned, but I can't get much >> from it. It's mentioned (as in the error message) that installing a new >> config binary will solve this, but I don't know how. It was also mentioned >> that it was due to not keeping the tools and the kernel source in sync - >> what does this mean? Thanks, > >try, > ># cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config ># make all install clean > >and then run config on your kernel configuration file again Okay... this doesn't change anything. (First off, I don't have a directory called /usr/src/usr.sbin/config, but I assume you mean wherever I have the source code - in my case, /usr/src/3.0-STABLE/usr.sbin/config.) The error message when I type "/usr/sbin/config [kernel]" says, "WARNING: version of config(8) does not match kernel! Config version = 300009, version required = 300007". I'm guessing this means that perhaps config is okay, but the kernel version is too old? Does this make sense? How would I fix this? Thanks, Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "Don't you try to outweird me, I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 02:33:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25511 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.elsevier.nl (ns.elsevier.nl [145.36.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25478 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:32:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sohara@mardil.elsevier.nl) Received: from olorin.elsevier.nl by ns.elsevier.nl with SMTP (PP); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:34:37 +0100 Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (mardil.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.30]) by olorin.elsevier.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28028 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:31:29 +0100 (MET) Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mardil.elsevier.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23500 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:31:29 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:31:29 +0100 (MET) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX, Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Recent pccard and floppy problem Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, A recent cvsup (to RELENG_3 about two days ago) has developed the following problems on my laptop: 1: pccard no longer attaches my NE2000 clone card, pccardd properly finds the ed0 driver but doesn't use the port and memory info from the tuple but seems to pick up some quite bogus defaults (port 0x240 mem 0) I haven't figured out where from yet (they are not what the driver is configured to nor are they in any of the tuples). 2: The floppy drive cannot be used once FreeBSD is up and running, it is recognised at boot time it even can be heard to do a seek to track zero as the driver initialises but attempt to access it from a prompt (dd, mount mdir anything) and the thing doesn't even spin up. If I could fix one or other of these problems I would be much happier, I can dig into things and make small patches by hand I just can't get the box connected to the outside world (until I get home where there is a modem that is). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Steve O'Hara-Smith On 11-Feb-99 At 11:31:29 Tell a computer to WIN and ... ... You LOSE! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 02:48:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27051 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:48:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27046 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id TAA04705; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:38:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma004693; Thu, 11 Feb 99 19:38:39 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.3W9-98080410) with ESMTP id TAA05180; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:38:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.8.8/3.7W-12/24/98) with ESMTP id TAA00287; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:37:25 +0900 (JST) To: mike@smith.net.au Cc: ludwigp@bigfoot.com, isachpaz@pandora.teimes.gr, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: calcru In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:41:50 -0800" <199902110141.RAA01864@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199902110141.RAA01864@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990211193724F.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:37:24 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 38 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Smith Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:41:50 -0800 ::> At 03:23 PM 2/10/99 , Ilias Sachpazidis wrote: ::> >I got that message : ::> > ::> >calcru: negative time of -77345163 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77344994 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77344852 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77276366 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77276200 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77276060 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77209034 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> >calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) ::> > ::> >What is that ? There is any problem ? ::> ::> Search the mailing list archives (maybe -questions). There was a big ::> discussion about this a few months ago. It means that you have funny ::> hardware (ISA cards?) and maybe also a driver that aggravates it. :: ::No, it means that our timecounter code is broken, and the author has ::been unwilling/unable to fix it for > 6 months. I get the same message, if I boot my 2.2-STABLE running notebook-PC with AC Line off-lined. When AC Line is on-line, it's ok. Does it something to do with APM BIOS? BTW, installing pao228 doesn't help. Haro, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _ _ Munehiro (Haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Office of Business Planning & Developement, Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-32454-3315 Email: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 03:53:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02614 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:53:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beatrice.rutgers.edu (beatrice.rutgers.edu [165.230.209.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02608; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu) Received: (from easmith@localhost) by beatrice.rutgers.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id GAA19745; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:39:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Allen Smith" Message-Id: <9902110639.ZM19743@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:39:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: Poul-Henning Kamp "Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable?" (Feb 11, 2:39am) References: <24995.918719168@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable? Cc: Studded , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Feb 11, 2:39am, Poul-Henning Kamp (possibly) wrote: > In message <9902110212.ZM18803@beatrice.rutgers.edu>, "Allen Smith" writes: > > >I'll look at doing so... but might Poul Henning-Kamp be a more logical > >individual for this? > > ENOTIME Fully understood. Andreas may be a better nominee for this (making ntp 4.x the contrib'd version for 3.-stable), since he's the one currently maintaining the ntp 4.0.91 port. BTW, ntp 4 includes a couple of line disciplines designed for use by ntpd. Have any of you taken a look at adding these to FreeBSD, particularly the tty_clk one (the tty_chu one being of much more limited usage)? -Allen -- Allen Smith easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 03:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02890 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:54:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (the-menacing-troll.cybercity.dk [212.242.41.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02875; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:54:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01226; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:54:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Allen Smith" cc: Studded , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, andreas@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is 'xntpd' broken in -stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:39:31 EST." <9902110639.ZM19743@beatrice.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:54:35 +0100 Message-ID: <1224.918734075@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >BTW, ntp 4 includes a couple of line disciplines designed for use by >ntpd. Have any of you taken a look at adding these to FreeBSD, >particularly the tty_clk one (the tty_chu one being of much more >limited usage)? No, I'm more interested in the PPS stuff. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 05:28:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15503 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:28:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from milf18.bus.net (milf18.bus.net [207.41.25.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15478 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cao@milf18.bus.net) Received: (from cao@localhost) by milf18.bus.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00239 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:28:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cao) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:28:44 -0500 From: "Chuck O'Donnell" To: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: w loses USER count Message-ID: <19990211082844.A178@milf18.bus.net> References: <199902110228.UAA16835@barnes1.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 06:25:01PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 06:25:01PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: > > > Dear Tom, > > > > Thank you, that fixed part of my w problem, > > but it still counts the users wrong, and doesn't show what users > > are (am) doing: > > > > 8:16PM up 1 day, 6:52, 0 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 > > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > > > > Sincerely, Wayne M Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu > > You are going to have to log off and log back on to fix that. That > completely wipes your records, so as far as w/last are concerned, no one > is logged in. > > Tom Doesn't this also happen when you login through xdm? e.g. my workstation says: 8:17AM up 76 days, 19:39, 0 users, load averages: 0.31, 0.10, 0.03 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT -- Chuck To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 06:08:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20292 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:08:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20287 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:08:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id XAA23801; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:08:07 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36C2E0B2.4229F1AE@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:52:50 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludwig Pummer CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: calcru References: <4.1.19990210184153.009d9b60@mail-r> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ludwig Pummer wrote: > > At 05:41 PM 2/10/99 , Mike Smith wrote: > >> >calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > >> It means that you have funny > >> hardware (ISA cards?) and maybe also a driver that aggravates it. > > > >No, it means that our timecounter code is broken, and the author has > >been unwilling/unable to fix it for > 6 months. > > > >(He also got roundly canned for his presentation of it at Usenix, BTW.) > > Too bad about the presentation. > > But that means my Cyrix MediaGX system isn't really broken! Yay! > (it runs well enough but after a while i get calcru: negative time of -5000 > usec every day) This can be corrected by a kernel option, though. Or I *think* so. If one resorts to use the alternate algorithm for timecounter, things works. I don't recall how to do that, though. Also, it would seem that adding the apm driver to your kernel, or disactivating apm on your BIOS, also corrects the problem. In particular, one report, at least, was made of a BIOS in which the line "apm os" or "apm bios" set to deactivated did *not* really deactivate it, and another change had to be made to the BIOS to *really* deactivate it. Take your pick, search the mailing lists (I only read -hackers and -current, so it was on one of them). -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 06:16:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21330 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp36-14.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.36.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21310 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:16:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from broccoli.no-support.loc (broccoli.no-support.loc [192.168.43.99]) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.2/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id DAA00597; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:17:05 +0100 (CET) From: Bjoern Fischer Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by broccoli.no-support.loc (8.9.2/8.9.2) id DAA02745; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bjoern) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 03:16:37 +0100 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Bjoern Fischer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav Message-ID: <19990211031636.A2690@broccoli.no-support.loc> References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> <199902100355.TAA77997@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199902100355.TAA77997@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 07:55:20PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 07:55:20PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: [...] > Bjoern, ktrace the program run. I suspect the problem is not > NFS but that the write() latency is causing one of cdda2wav's > forked processes to exit and kill its child before the child > finishes writing. > > ktrace -t cn -i cdda2wav .... > > kdump -R | less > > Try to match up reads from the CD to writes to the output file. > See if the final couple of read/write's match up. Hmm, the procedure of testing changes the object being tested. The problem disappears while ktracing the run. In the kdump I could see that the size of the last write to the audio file is exactly what is missing without ktrace. The last write is simply skipped. Then I compiled the whole thing for debugging. Synchronization between the parent (writing) process and the child (reading) process is managed with fifos. Just before the last write should be done the syncing function receives a SIGPIPE as it was trying to write to the pipe. At the time I don't know how this can happen. Bjoern -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UBL++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L+++(-) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:08:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28769 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:08:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28758 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:08:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mishania@skraldespand.demos.su) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA10533; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:08:42 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from mishania) Message-ID: <19990211180841.50090@demos.su> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:08:41 +0300 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panics with ufs_dirbad on high swapping. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. X-Useless-Header: Look ma! It's a # sign! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, given the 3.0-STABLE as of 1999-02-07, we experience the following panics. The situation is the following - the box was rarely up for more than 3-4 days since November (yes, I know there were fixes for ufs_dirbad() then) and it happens way strange way. It will hang (nothing but disk IO works, console doesn't respond, network connections get staled and so on) when pretty big swap quantity is being used actively (please find below the prepanic top results). More the uptime gets, more longer perionds of irresponsibilities get, and it would finally crash in 3 or 4 days with exactly the very same panic. I already changed all the disks during this period, reinstalled the / from 3.0-R -> 3.0-S on newly newfs'ed one and voila, nothing helps. last pid: 19449; load averages: 1.19, 0.96, 0.94 up 3+19:10:11 14:40:33 183 processes: 2 running, 179 sleeping, 2 stopped CPU states: 44.8% user, 0.0% nice, 18.4% system, 4.3% interrupt, 32.5% idle Mem: 183M Active, 8160K Inact, 48M Wired, 10M Cache, 8348K Buf, 784K Free Swap: 584M Total, 291M Used, 293M Free, 50% Inuse, 100K In, 128K Out PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 17335 root 97 0 1328K 636K CPU0 0 15:26 51.90% 51.90% sshd1 19327 cvsup -18 0 2144K 1844K spread 0 0:25 30.13% 29.35% cvsupd 18967 cvsup -22 0 4420K 4016K vmpfw 0 0:46 8.40% 8.40% cvsupd 25299 root 2 -5 230M 88440K poll 0 146:47 6.15% 6.15% squid 17341 mishania 2 -5 844K 364K sbwait 0 1:43 4.39% 4.39% scp1 19344 root 26 -5 1740K 952K CPU1 1 0:02 4.53% 4.10% top 17459 ircd 2 0 42164K 30160K poll 1 209:53 3.17% 3.17% ircd 19362 squid 10 0 2940K 2632K nanslp 0 0:02 2.97% 2.34% perl 19149 cvsup 2 0 2900K 2512K select 1 0:13 1.27% 1.27% cvsupd 19000 cvsup 2 0 1900K 1604K select 1 0:29 0.78% 0.78% cvsupd 19425 root 2 0 596K 384K sbwait 1 0:00 0.27% 0.10% ftpd 19131 root 2 0 596K 388K sbwait 0 0:00 0.05% 0.05% ftpd 19427 root 2 0 612K 404K sbwait 0 0:00 0.19% 0.05% ftpd 19449 root 2 -5 744K 388K select 1 0:00 1.00% 0.05% tcptest 124 root 2 0 828K 340K select 0 26:35 0.00% 0.00% syslogd 839 mishania 2 -5 2828K 1336K select 1 5:33 0.00% 0.00% screen 25324 squid -6 -5 752K 176K piperd 0 5:01 0.00% 0.00% unlinkd gdb -k /var/crash/kernel.24 /var/crash/vmcore.24 initial pcb at 1fda28 panicstr: ufs_dirbad: bad dir panic messages: --- panic: ufs_dirbad: bad dir mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... 27 9 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 giving up dumping to dev 30401, offset 671744 dump 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 0xf013efb3 in boot () (kgdb) where #0 0xf013efb3 in boot () #1 0xf013f26b in panic () #2 0xf019334e in ufs_dirbad () #3 0xf0192bf2 in ufs_lookup () #4 0xf0197b4d in ufs_vnoperate () #5 0xf015fff4 in vfs_cache_lookup () #6 0xf0197b4d in ufs_vnoperate () #7 0xf0162495 in lookup () #8 0xf0161faf in namei () #9 0xf0167c18 in lstat () #10 0xf01c2dc3 in syscall () #11 0x807f2 in ?? () #12 0x1d83a in ?? () #13 0x38195 in ?? () #14 0x8084 in ?? () #15 0x754c in ?? () #16 0x71df in ?? () #17 0x6c298 in ?? () #18 0x6c0aa in ?? () #19 0xefbfdd64 in ?? () -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:23:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01079 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.mtlusa.com (dc-35-252.ici.net [207.180.35.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01071 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:23:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from madlove@cs.umb.edu) Received: by mail.mtlusa.com from localhost (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:23:25 -0500 Received: by mail.mtlusa.com from www.noel.nu (207.180.35.234::mail daemon,QMProSrv V2.6); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: <36C2AFC4.CE6B7055@cs.umb.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:24:05 -0500 From: "Luke H." Reply-To: madlove@cs.umb.edu Organization: MTL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3.0-stable supports bandwidth limitation in the kernel? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------27B01BE890CC22F9CB170AA7" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------27B01BE890CC22F9CB170AA7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I heard that 3.0-current has the option in the kernel where you can enable the bandwidth limitation to prevent ping flood attack. Does 3.0-stable have that function, too? I ask coz I'm still in 2.2.8-stable (waiting for 3.1-stable coming out) Thanx, Luke --------------27B01BE890CC22F9CB170AA7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Hi all,
I heard that 3.0-current has the option in the kernel where you can enable the bandwidth limitation to prevent ping flood attack.  Does 3.0-stable have that function, too?   I ask coz I'm still in 2.2.8-stable (waiting for  3.1-stable coming out)
Thanx,
Luke
  --------------27B01BE890CC22F9CB170AA7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:39:57 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03658 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:39:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03639; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:39:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Received: from hexanet.fr (nighty@proton.hexanet.fr [194.98.140.18]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00793; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from chris@hexanet.fr) Message-ID: <36C2F9A5.862D543A@hexanet.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:39:17 +0100 From: Christophe Prevotaux Organization: HEXANET X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: French, fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PNP settings: how to save? References: <199902110714.KAA02509@shuttle.svib.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > Hello! > > I've noticed that my system upgraded to -STABLE from 3.0-RELEASE doesn't save > PNP settings. dset has been removed from source tree and rc. > > Am I supposed to set up PNP on each boot? > > Alex. that's right I have noticed this as well -- =================================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: chris@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 9 rue Roland Coffignot Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 BP415 51689 Reims Cedex 2 Use a real OS, use UNIX FRANCE FreeBSD =================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:44:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04397 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:44:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04383 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:44:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA49893; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:43:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Christophe Prevotaux cc: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PNP settings: how to save? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:39:17 +0100." <36C2F9A5.862D543A@hexanet.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:43:16 -0800 Message-ID: <49889.918747796@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [-questions removed; please don't cross-post guys!] I have a fix coming into the tree shortly. > Alex Povolotsky wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I've noticed that my system upgraded to -STABLE from 3.0-RELEASE doesn't sa ve > > PNP settings. dset has been removed from source tree and rc. > > > > Am I supposed to set up PNP on each boot? > > > > Alex. > > that's right I have noticed this as well > -- > =================================================================== > Christophe Prevotaux Email: chris@hexanet.fr > HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > 9 rue Roland Coffignot Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > BP415 > 51689 Reims Cedex 2 Use a real OS, use UNIX > FRANCE FreeBSD > =================================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:48:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04814 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04806 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id JAA18107 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:59:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902111559.JAA18107@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: w loses USER count To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:59:34 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Chuck, On my other system, which as different 3.0 problems, the w command works as follows [although it seems slower than it was on 2.2.8 ], when I am the only one logged on: wayne@barnes2:/home/wayne>w 9:43AM up 14:31, 1 user, load averages: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT wayne p0 61.178 12May61 - w wayne@barnes2:/home/wayne> System ID: FreeBSD barnes2.wustl.edu 3.1-BETA FreeBSD 3.1-BETA #3: Wed Feb 10 18:56:17 CST 1999 wayne@barnes2.wustl.edu:/usr/src.3.0-stable/sys/compile/GENETHREE i386 I don't know from xdm, but as far as I can tell, your w is broken, too. Wayne M. Barnes, Ph.D. wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu Biochemistry Dept. 8231 Washington Univ. Medical School 314.362.3351 fax 7183 660 South Euclid Ave., St. Louis, MO 63110 http://barnes1.wustl.edu Just plain Taq is old tech anymore. ----- Forwarded message from Chuck O'Donnell ----- On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 06:25:01PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Wayne M. Barnes wrote: > > > Dear Tom, > > > > Thank you, that fixed part of my w problem, > > but it still counts the users wrong, and doesn't show what users > > are (am) doing: > > > > 8:16PM up 1 day, 6:52, 0 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00 > > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > > > > Sincerely, Wayne M Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu > > You are going to have to log off and log back on to fix that. That > completely wipes your records, so as far as w/last are concerned, no one > is logged in. > > Tom Doesn't this also happen when you login through xdm? e.g. my workstation says: 8:17AM up 76 days, 19:39, 0 users, load averages: 0.31, 0.10, 0.03 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT -- ----- End of forwarded message from Chuck O'Donnell ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 07:58:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05747 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05737 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:58:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id KAA18163 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:09:23 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902111609.KAA18163@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: w To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:09:23 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Glen, ps and top are okay. This broken w comes back quickly if wrongly. I made my world and kernel already on the same day. This w doesn't count the users [which are two at this moment]: 10:07AM up 1 day, 20:42, 0 users, load averages: 0.06, 0.03, 0.01 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT FreeBSD barnes1.wustl.edu 3.0-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 9 13:14:45 CST 1999 wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu:/usr/src.3.0-stable/sys/compile/GENEONE i386 ---- Forwarded message from Glen Foster ----- Subject: Re: w You will find ps and top broken too. I had this exact same problem and refused to believe that it was because my kernel and "world" were out of sync until I rebuilt both from the same set of sources. I could have sworn that my kernel was in sync with my user land but it wasn't. I am sure that you have the same problem. Just rebuild and install everything one more time and you will be OK. Good luck, Glen Foster >From: "Wayne M. Barnes" >Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:02:38 -0600 (CST) > > The w command is broken on this system. It's the only >broken thing I have noticed yet. ----- End of forwarded message from Glen Foster ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 08:16:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07744 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07714 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28043; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:16:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36C30247.966AC721@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:16:07 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bjoern Fischer CC: Matthew Dillon , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> <199902100355.TAA77997@apollo.backplane.com> <19990211031636.A2690@broccoli.no-support.loc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bjoern Fischer wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 07:55:20PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > [...] > > Bjoern, ktrace the program run. I suspect the problem is not > > NFS but that the write() latency is causing one of cdda2wav's > > forked processes to exit and kill its child before the child > > finishes writing. > > > > ktrace -t cn -i cdda2wav .... > > > > kdump -R | less > > > > Try to match up reads from the CD to writes to the output file. > > See if the final couple of read/write's match up. > > Hmm, the procedure of testing changes the object being tested. > The problem disappears while ktracing the run. A "Heisenbug." But don't tell Terry, you'll get a fizzix lecture. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 08:25:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08991 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08985 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from cordelia.lcs.mit.edu (cordelia.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.55]) by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA20010 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:25:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36C3046A.1CFBAE39@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:25:14 -0500 From: Xiaowei Yang Organization: MIT LCS X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth 156260bd unsubscribe freebsd-stable yxw@mercury.lcs.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 08:30:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09464 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailbox.pirelli.com (mailbox.pirelli.com [193.70.248.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09403 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:29:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul.norcott@pirelli.com) Received: from lucifer.pirelli.com (lucifer.pirelli.com [193.70.248.32]) by mailbox.pirelli.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA10521 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:30:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from pc00060gb.pcco_gb ([151.10.246.70]) by lucifer.pirelli.com with SMTP (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA27268 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:28:29 +0100 (MET) Received: by pc00060gb.pcco_gb with Microsoft Mail id <01BE55DB.81F57AE0@pc00060gb.pcco_gb>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:28:07 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE55DB.81F57AE0@pc00060gb.pcco_gb> From: Paul Norcott To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:29:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe freebsd-stable paul.norcott@pirelli.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 08:47:42 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10820 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eagle.plab.ku.dk (eagle.plab.ku.dk [130.225.105.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10814; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:47:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from voland@eagle.plab.ku.dk) Received: (from voland@localhost) by eagle.plab.ku.dk (8.9.2/8.9.1) id RAA27258; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:47:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from voland) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: Alex Povolotsky To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PNP settings: how to save? References: <199902110714.KAA02509@shuttle.svib.ru> From: Vadim Belman In-Reply-To: Alex Povolotsky's message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:14:07 +0300" Date: 11 Feb 1999 17:47:19 +0100 Message-ID: <85btj0anvs.fsf@eagle.plab.ku.dk> Lines: 36 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Alex! On 11 Feb 99 at 08:14, "Alex" (Alex Povolotsky) wrote: Alex> Hello! I've noticed that my system upgraded to -STABLE from Alex> 3.0-RELEASE doesn't save PNP settings. dset has been removed from Alex> source tree and rc. Alex> Am I supposed to set up PNP on each boot? I would recommend you the following way of configuring PNP devices: Put the following lines into /boot/boot.conf: load kernel load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config autoboot Of course, you need only the second line if you already have a boot.conf filled with some commands. Put all the configuration commands you need into /kernel.config in the same way you type them when configuring the kernel. Here is my /kernel.config, for instance: pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 drq0 3 drq1 5 irq0 5 pnp 1 1 os enable port0 0x200 drq0 4 drq1 4 pnp 1 2 os enable port0 0x620 port1 0xA20 port2 0xE20 drq0 4 drq1 4 quit And here we are! Notice that you don't even depend on kernel recompilation if you use this technique. -- /Voland Vadim Belman E-mail: voland@plab.ku.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 09:29:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16168 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16163 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (root@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA12922; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:28:54 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA32183; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:28:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:28:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: charon@freethought.org cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 charon@freethought.org wrote: >Okay... this doesn't change anything. (First off, I don't have a directory >called /usr/src/usr.sbin/config, but I assume you mean wherever I have the >source code - in my case, /usr/src/3.0-STABLE/usr.sbin/config.) > >The error message when I type "/usr/sbin/config [kernel]" says, "WARNING: >version of config(8) does not match kernel! Config version = 300009, >version required = 300007". I'm guessing this means that perhaps config is >okay, but the kernel version is too old? Does this make sense? How would >I fix this? Thanks, Resup your source and make world. I may not be of much help. This question is answered, if not in the FAQ, then in the mailing list archives. Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 10:20:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24918 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24691; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from ben by scientia.demon.co.uk with local (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10B0if-000B8s-00; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:20:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:20:09 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: charon@freethought.org Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel Message-ID: <19990211182009.A42482@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <19990211003722.A38026@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG charon@freethought.org wrote: > Okay... this doesn't change anything. (First off, I don't have a directory > called /usr/src/usr.sbin/config, but I assume you mean wherever I have the > source code - in my case, /usr/src/3.0-STABLE/usr.sbin/config.) Yes, wherever. > The error message when I type "/usr/sbin/config [kernel]" says, "WARNING: > version of config(8) does not match kernel! Config version = 300009, > version required = 300007". I'm guessing this means that perhaps config is > okay, but the kernel version is too old? Does this make sense? How would > I fix this? Thanks, Ah, yes you're right, your problem is the other way round to what I guessed. Just update your kernel sources using cvsup or whatever your normal method is. -- Ben Smithurst ben@scientia.demon.co.uk send a blank message to ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 10:54:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28998 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:54:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28989 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:54:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA03373 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20945 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:32 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15502 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:31 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with linux emulator Message-ID: <19990211195431.A55879@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When running the matlab license manager for linux on 3.x, it dies immediatley with the following message: ELF interpreter /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 not found Other Linux programs (acroread, staroffice4, wordperfect) run fine. The license manager works great on 2.2.8-STABLE. Any hints? Thanks, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 11:08:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01328 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles253.castles.com [208.214.165.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01309 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06820; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902111900.LAA06820@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) cc: mike@smith.net.au, ludwigp@bigfoot.com, isachpaz@pandora.teimes.gr, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: calcru In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:37:24 +0900." <19990211193724F.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:00:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ::No, it means that our timecounter code is broken, and the author has > ::been unwilling/unable to fix it for > 6 months. > > I get the same message, if I boot my 2.2-STABLE running notebook-PC > with AC Line off-lined. When AC Line is on-line, it's ok. > > Does it something to do with APM BIOS? Yes; it's related to the fact that our timekeeping code can't deal with the way the APM bios bounces things around. It needs to be fixed. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 11:29:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04419 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04404 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul1.u.washington.edu (root@saul1.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.10]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA10204; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:29:06 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul1.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA16713; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:29:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Andre Albsmeier cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with linux emulator In-Reply-To: <19990211195431.A55879@internal> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote: >When running the matlab license manager for linux on 3.x, >it dies immediatley with the following message: > >ELF interpreter /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 not found Me Too. I just got this running Netscape after doing make world with new kernel on Feb 10 at 13:00. But... -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 21367 Oct 25 1996 ld-linux.so.1 Anyone have any ideas? Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 11:37:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05414 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:37:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chick.tsystems.kiev.ua (chick.tsystems.kiev.ua [194.44.182.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05405 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:37:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tat@tsystems.kiev.ua) Received: from localhost (tat@localhost) by chick.tsystems.kiev.ua (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA69394 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:37:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from tat@tsystems.kiev.ua) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:37:09 +0200 (EET) From: Alexander Tatmaniants To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic on 3.0-stable as of approx last week Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: ua.tsystems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen this panic on 3.0-stable SMP box Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 00000003; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000 fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = superwisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf020b0c7 stack pointer = 0x10:0xfed64bb8 frame pointer = ox10:0xfed64bdc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 251 (cvs) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam <- SMP: XXX kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 Stopped at generic_bzero+oxf: repe stosl %es:(%edi) The machine is double pII 333 MHz on LX mobo with onboard aic7880 and Intel EtherExpress 10/100B Pro + or someth. similar in other words fxp0, 256Mb RAM. This panic has occured regardless of turning softupdates on and off, with AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO and without, with both versions of nfs. The cvs extracts ports collection from nfs mounted filesystem. Plaing with vfs.ffs.doreallocblks and doasyncfree dosn't change anything. -- Best regards, Alexander Tatmaniants To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 12:19:31 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11302 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11296 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id MAA94489; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:19:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:19:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902112019.MAA94489@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS + cdda2wav References: <19990209233951.A402@broccoli.no-support.loc> <199902100355.TAA77997@apollo.backplane.com> <19990211031636.A2690@broccoli.no-support.loc> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Then I compiled the whole thing for debugging. Synchronization :between the parent (writing) process and the child (reading) :process is managed with fifos. Just before the last write should :be done the syncing function receives a SIGPIPE as it was trying :to write to the pipe. At the time I don't know how this can happen. : : Bjoern SIGPIPE occurs if the reader side of the fifo goes away and the writer then tries to write. So it looks like one of the two processes must be dying ( perhaps thinking that the transfer is done ) whe, in fact, there is still a little more data in the fifo to write. It sounds like a timing bug in the program rather then an OS bug. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 12:29:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12447 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12426 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phate1@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA11997; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:28:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from unknown(209.67.1.12) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011935; Thu Feb 11 14:28:32 1999 Message-ID: <36C33E35.1F59AC5A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:31:49 -0500 From: Mike Organization: Integration Soft. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: madlove@cs.umb.edu CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.0-stable supports bandwidth limitation in the kernel? References: <36C2AFC4.CE6B7055@cs.umb.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG DUMMYNET supports it. man dummynet Mike Luke H. wrote: > > Hi all, > > I heard that 3.0-current has the option in the kernel where you can enable the bandwidth limitation to prevent ping flood attack. Does 3.0-stable have that function, too? I ask coz I'm still in 2.2.8-stable (waiting for 3.1-stable coming out) > > Thanx, > > Luke > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 13:22:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19449 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:22:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19426; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990211212203.WWCO12321.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:22:03 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990211132154.00a63aa0@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:21:54 -0800 To: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990211182009.A42482@scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <19990211003722.A38026@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:20 PM 2/11/99 +0000, Ben Smithurst wrote: >charon@freethought.org wrote: >> The error message when I type "/usr/sbin/config [kernel]" says, "WARNING: >> version of config(8) does not match kernel! Config version = 300009, >> version required = 300007". I'm guessing this means that perhaps config is >> okay, but the kernel version is too old? Does this make sense? How would >> I fix this? Thanks, > >Ah, yes you're right, your problem is the other way round to what I >guessed. Just update your kernel sources using cvsup or whatever your >normal method is. Yeeeeees... this of course assumes I know how to do this... I used CTM to build a source tree, and I ran 'make world' per the instructions on ... shouldn't this update the kernel sources? And, sorry to sound even slower than usual, but... what are the kernel sources? Isn't the thing that matters the file I make from GENERIC? (Actually, after running make world I got a file called GENERICupgrade, and used that... does that matter?) Thanks, Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "We're not laughing at you, we're laughing _near_ you!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 13:58:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24091 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:58:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24068; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpx73.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.73]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA04894; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:58:23 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <36C3527E.FCC244AC@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:58:22 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del Paνs Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrσnica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rc.local not executed because of bug in rc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First, sorry for the cross-posting, but this problem affects both the -STABLE and -CURRENT branches. The rc.local script is called from rc as "$conf_dir/rc.local". However, the new rc.conf does not set the "conf_dir" variable anymore, therefore rc.local is not executed. -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 14:04:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25018 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25001; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:04:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id OAA95300; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:04:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:04:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199902112204.OAA95300@apollo.backplane.com> To: "Jose M. Alcaide" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rc.local not executed because of bug in rc References: <36C3527E.FCC244AC@we.lc.ehu.es> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :First, sorry for the cross-posting, but this problem affects :both the -STABLE and -CURRENT branches. : :The rc.local script is called from rc as "$conf_dir/rc.local". :However, the new rc.conf does not set the "conf_dir" variable :anymore, therefore rc.local is not executed. : :-- JMA -current's /usr/src/etc/rc no longer use $conf_dir. It looks like -stable's does, though... I've fixed it. I don't understand how it got there, I only comitted the $conf_dir stuff to -current! -Matt Matthew Dillon :----------------------------------------------------------------------- :Josι Mͺ Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es :Universidad del Paνs Vasco | mailto:jmas@es.FreeBSD.ORG :Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrσnica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose :Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 :48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 :----------------------------------------------------------------------- : "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 14:27:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27758 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27751 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (root@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA17346; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:27:06 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA10872; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:26:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: charon@freethought.org cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990211132154.00a63aa0@mail> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 charon@freethought.org wrote: >Yeeeeees... this of course assumes I know how to do this... I used CTM to >build a source tree, and I ran 'make world' per the instructions on > >... shouldn't this update the kernel sources? And, sorry to sound even >slower than usual, but... what are the kernel sources? Isn't the thing The above does update the kernel sources but it does not build a new kernel. The kernel sources are in /usr/src/sys or equivalent. You need to use cvsup (or equivalent) to update them. Also, you must build your kernel seperately from 'make world'. >that matters the file I make from GENERIC? (Actually, after running make >world I got a file called GENERICupgrade, and used that... does that This file is _only_ the config file. It tells the config program how to prepare the kernel build. You must then cd to the build directory and make depend; make; make install. There are good instructions for this in the handbook. Concepts in case I wasn't clear earlier: make world is seperate from a kernel build. make world is seperate from fetching the latest sources. The kernel config file is _not_ the kernel source code. The source is in /usr/src (yours is a bit different) Kernel source is in /usr/src/sys (yours is a bit different) Also a bit of netiquette, don't cross post your question. I have trimmed out -questions as you were running stable. Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 14:40:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29633 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles253.castles.com [208.214.165.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29406 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07902; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902112232.OAA07902@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Alexander Tatmaniants cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic on 3.0-stable as of approx last week In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:37:09 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:32:41 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've seen this panic on 3.0-stable SMP box You'll want to look at the backtrace and try to work out why you're trying to bzero NULL. > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > mp_lock = 00000003; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000 > fault virtual address = 0x0 > fault code = superwisor write, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf020b0c7 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xfed64bb8 > frame pointer = ox10:0xfed64bdc > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 251 (cvs) > interrupt mask = net tty bio cam <- SMP: XXX > kernel: type 12 trap, code=0 > Stopped at generic_bzero+oxf: repe stosl %es:(%edi) > > The machine is double pII 333 MHz on LX mobo with onboard aic7880 > and Intel EtherExpress 10/100B Pro + or someth. similar in other > words fxp0, 256Mb RAM. This panic has occured regardless of turning > softupdates on and off, with AHC_ALLOW_MEMIO and without, with both > versions of nfs. The cvs extracts ports collection from nfs mounted > filesystem. Plaing with vfs.ffs.doreallocblks and doasyncfree dosn't > change anything. > > -- > Best regards, > Alexander Tatmaniants > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 16:05:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08901 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:05:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from janus.syracuse.net (janus.syracuse.net [205.232.47.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08862 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:04:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@unixhelp.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by janus.syracuse.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA22038 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:04:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:04:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@janus.syracuse.net To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RealServer G2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.geek-girl.com/bugtraq/1999_1/0600.html Has anyone seen that? Brian Feldman _ __ ___ ___ ___ green@unixhelp.org _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ http://www.freebsd.org/ _ __ ___ ____ | _ \__ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ ___ ____ _____ |___/___/___/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 16:10:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10681 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca3-38.ix.netcom.com [209.110.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10645 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id QAA01079; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199902120010.QAA01079@netcom1.netcom.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: named.restart doesn't work Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It loads /etc/rc.conf if you look at it - it should be changed to load /etc/defaults/rc.conf, no? - Mike Harding To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 16:22:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12937 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12928 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:22:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA73247; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: "Michael V. Harding" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: named.restart doesn't work In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:47 PST." <199902120010.QAA01079@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:21:53 -0800 Message-ID: <73243.918778913@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fixed, thanks! - Jordan > > It loads /etc/rc.conf if you look at it - it should be changed to load > /etc/defaults/rc.conf, no? > > - Mike Harding > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 17:00:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17843 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:00:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from regpc30.murdoch.edu.au (regpc30.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17838 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:00:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Received: from guru.wow.aust.com (regmac23.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.182]) by regpc30.murdoch.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02309; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:00:36 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Message-ID: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:01:12 +0800 From: Jarvis Cochrane Reply-To: jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Success with StarOffice 5.0? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has been able to get the Linux StarOffice 5.0 binaries running under FreeBSD and Linux Emulation. TIA Jarvis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 18:20:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28402 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:19:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles253.castles.com [208.214.165.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28373 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09065; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:11:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902120211.SAA09065@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent pccard and floppy problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:31:29 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:11:32 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > A recent cvsup (to RELENG_3 about two days ago) has developed the > following problems on my laptop: > > 1: pccard no longer attaches my NE2000 clone card, pccardd properly > finds the ed0 driver but doesn't use the port and memory info from the tuple > but seems to pick up some quite bogus defaults (port 0x240 mem 0) I haven't > figured out where from yet (they are not what the driver is configured to nor > are they in any of the tuples). This is particularly odd, since there's been no change at all in that code for quite some time. > 2: The floppy drive cannot be used once FreeBSD is up and running, it > is recognised at boot time it even can be heard to do a seek to track zero as > the driver initialises but attempt to access it from a prompt (dd, mount mdir > anything) and the thing doesn't even spin up. Ack. Is anyone else seeing this? Obviously none of the developers have hit this, or we'd have heard about it by now. > If I could fix one or other of these problems I would be much happier, > I can dig into things and make small patches by hand I just can't get the box > connected to the outside world (until I get home where there is a modem that > is). Do you have an old kernel you can boot? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 18:24:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29174 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:24:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29154 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05667; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:23:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199902120223.TAA05667@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: panics with ufs_dirbad on high swapping. In-Reply-To: <19990211180841.50090@demos.su> from "Mikhail A. Sokolov" at "Feb 11, 99 06:08:41 pm" To: mishania@demos.net (Mikhail A. Sokolov) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:23:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Mikhail A. Sokolov wrote: > > given the 3.0-STABLE as of 1999-02-07, we experience the following > panics. The situation is the following - the box was rarely up for > more than 3-4 days since November (yes, I know there were fixes for > ufs_dirbad() then) and it happens way strange way. It will hang > (nothing but disk IO works, console doesn't respond, network > connections get staled and so on) when pretty big swap quantity is > being used actively (please find below the prepanic top results). > More the uptime gets, more longer perionds of irresponsibilities get, > and it would finally crash in 3 or 4 days with exactly the very same > panic. I already changed all the disks during this period, > reinstalled the / from 3.0-R -> 3.0-S on newly newfs'ed one and voila, > nothing helps. Since you're already willing to completely re-load the box, how about you load it with 2.2.8. Unless there are some features in 3.0 you can't live without, it'd be interesting if 2.2.8 (or 2.2-STABLE) made your problems go away. It would isolate the hardware/software question, and perhaps give you a stable system in the meantime. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 21:28:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21771 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:28:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21764 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02709 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:28:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05326 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:28:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18936 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:28:25 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:28:22 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with linux emulator Message-ID: <19990212062822.D1248@internal> References: <19990211195431.A55879@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason C. Wells on Thu, Feb 11, 1999 at 11:28:25AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11-Feb-1999 at 11:28:25 -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > >When running the matlab license manager for linux on 3.x, > >it dies immediatley with the following message: > > > >ELF interpreter /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 not found > > Me Too. I just got this running Netscape after doing make world with new > kernel on Feb 10 at 13:00. Hmm, will try the linux netscape as well. Maybe it doesn't work here either... > > But... > -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 21367 Oct 25 1996 ld-linux.so.1 Same here: andre@bali:~>ls -l /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 21367 Oct 25 1996 /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.1 Don't know what's going on here... -Andre > > Anyone have any ideas? > > Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. > Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 21:49:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23556 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:49:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23547 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA23261; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:35:41 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199902120335.EAA23261@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 3.0-stable supports bandwidth limitation in the kernel? To: phate1@ix.netcom.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:35:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: madlove@cs.umb.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36C33E35.1F59AC5A@ix.netcom.com> from "Mike" at Feb 11, 99 03:31:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > DUMMYNET supports it. > > man dummynet actually there is another part of code in 3.x that specifically deals with ping bw limitation. dummynet is a different, more general bw limiter. luigi > Mike > > Luke H. wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I heard that 3.0-current has the option in the kernel where you can enable the bandwidth limitation to prevent ping flood attack. Does 3.0-stable have that function, too? I ask coz I'm still in 2.2.8-stable (waiting for 3.1-stable coming out) > > > > Thanx, > > > > Luke > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 22:28:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26987 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ii.pilsnet.sunet.se (ii.pilsnet.sunet.se [192.36.125.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26977 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:28:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bengan@ii.pilsnet.sunet.se) Received: (from bengan@localhost) by ii.pilsnet.sunet.se (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA08651; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:28:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19990212072806.B8533@sunet.se> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:28:06 +0100 From: Bengt Gorden To: jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Success with StarOffice 5.0? References: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com>; from Jarvis Cochrane on Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 09:01:12AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 09:01:12AM +0800, Jarvis Cochrane wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone has been able to get the Linux StarOffice 5.0 > binaries running under FreeBSD and Linux Emulation. I'm not the one who installed it but a colleague of mine did and it worked. He upgraded from 3.0-something to -current. The only problem we seen so far is that we can't register through the register-button that appears when you start start the program. I'm not shure, but it seems like a Java -problem. -- /Bengan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 22:44:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28219 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28206 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:44:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from salomon.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18412 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:44:02 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18028 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:44:02 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19691 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:44:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:44:01 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: amd in 3.1-BETA fails on ufs (Fix included) Message-ID: <19990212074401.A1842@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG amd on 3.1-BETA fails to mount an ufs. This is because ufs_args_t defaults to u_int if it hasn't been redefined in config.h. However, this definition has been forgotten. We also have to change the location from where ufs_mount.h is included. Below is a patch which corrects this problem. Please review it in case I have forgotten other things since I am no amd expert :-). I assume the same problem appears in -current but I haven't looked yet. The problem has been filed as PR#10044. -Andre --- usr.sbin/amd/include/config.h.ORI Fri Feb 12 06:57:54 1999 +++ usr.sbin/amd/include/config.h Fri Feb 12 07:06:05 1999 @@ -753,7 +753,7 @@ /* #undef HAVE_FIELD_UFS_ARGS_T_FLAGS */ /* does ufs_args_t have fspec field? */ -/* #undef HAVE_FIELD_UFS_ARGS_T_FSPEC */ +#define HAVE_FIELD_UFS_ARGS_T_FSPEC 1 /* does efs_args_t have flags field? */ /* #undef HAVE_FIELD_EFS_ARGS_T_FLAGS */ @@ -1038,7 +1038,7 @@ /* #undef tmpfs_args_t */ /* Define a type for the ufs_args structure */ -/* #undef ufs_args_t */ +#define ufs_args_t struct ufs_args /* Define a type for the efs_args structure */ /* #undef efs_args_t */ @@ -1829,7 +1829,7 @@ /* #undef HAVE_TMPFS_TMP_H */ /* Define if you have the header file. */ -/* #undef HAVE_UFS_UFS_MOUNT_H */ +#define HAVE_UFS_UFS_MOUNT_H 1 /* Define if you have the header file. */ #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1 --- contrib/amd/include/am_defs.h.ORI Sun Jan 31 11:44:50 1999 +++ contrib/amd/include/am_defs.h Fri Feb 12 06:58:47 1999 @@ -1054,7 +1054,7 @@ * Actions to take if exists. */ #ifdef HAVE_UFS_UFS_MOUNT_H -# include +# include #endif /* HAVE_UFS_UFS_MOUNT_H */ /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 22:59:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29087 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:59:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29082 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA23176 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:59:11 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.1-BETA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having noticed that 3.1 is now is BETA stage, are there currently any outstanding isssues for upgrading from 2.2.8-RELEASE? I am currently CVSuping the sources at about 2AM Eastern time. Can I do this safely or ought I wait a little longer, possibly until 3.1-RELEASE comes out? Jonathan Fosburgh Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 23:38:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02248 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:38:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from regpc30.murdoch.edu.au (regpc30.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02226 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:37:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Received: from guru.wow.aust.com (regmac23.murdoch.edu.au [134.115.241.182]) by regpc30.murdoch.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02718; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:37:55 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com) Message-ID: <36C3DA57.7352C225@guru.wow.aust.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:39:11 +0800 From: Jarvis Cochrane Reply-To: jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Success with StarOffice 5.0? References: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com> <19990212072806.B8533@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 09:01:12AM +0800, Jarvis Cochrane wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm wondering if anyone has been able to get the Linux StarOffice 5.0 > > binaries running under FreeBSD and Linux Emulation. > > I'm not the one who installed it but a colleague of mine did and it > worked. He upgraded from 3.0-something to -current. The only problem > we seen so far is that we can't register through the register-button > that appears when you start start the program. I'm not shure, but it > seems like a Java -problem. I'm still running 2.2.8 - luddite that I am. How different is the Linux emulation stuff? Jarvis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 23:41:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02488 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:41:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from max.difi.de (router.difi.de [194.231.78.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02482 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:41:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@t-online.de) Received: from edv1.difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA30169; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:42:18 +0100 From: Uwe Laverenz Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:41:39 GMT Message-ID: <19990212.7413900@edv1.difi.de> Subject: Re: Success with StarOffice 5.0? To: jarvis@guru.wow.aust.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com> References: <36C37D3D.CBE1EFED@guru.wow.aust.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.0; Unix) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id XAA02483 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > I'm wondering if anyone has been able to get the > Linux StarOffice 5.0 binaries running under > FreeBSD and Linux Emulation. Yes, it works with 3.0-Stable and 3.1-Beta, but not very reliable. Rather often it causes very high system-loads on my machine and then hangs. I followed the instructions on http://lt.tar.com to install StarOffice. Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 11 23:55:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03593 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:55:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.elsevier.nl (ns.elsevier.nl [145.36.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03586 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sohara@mardil.elsevier.nl) Received: from olorin.elsevier.nl by ns.elsevier.nl with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:58:03 +0100 Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (mardil.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.30]) by olorin.elsevier.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06059; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:54:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mardil.elsevier.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24360; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:54:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199902120211.SAA09065@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:54:52 +0100 (MET) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX, Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Recent pccard and floppy problem Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Feb-99 Mike Smith wrote: >> A recent cvsup (to RELENG_3 about two days ago) has developed the >> following problems on my laptop: >> >> 1: pccard no longer attaches my NE2000 clone card, pccardd properly >> finds the ed0 driver but doesn't use the port and memory info from the tuple >> but seems to pick up some quite bogus defaults (port 0x240 mem 0) I haven't >> figured out where from yet (they are not what the driver is configured to >> nor >> are they in any of the tuples). > > This is particularly odd, since there's been no change at all in that > code for quite some time. I've been doing some digging into the problem and I've got this far: a) There are two config tuples with the same ID in my card the default (which says 8 bit io with no specified port as well as all the power gubbins) and the next one in (which specifies port 0x300). I'm fairly sure I used to get the second but I can't document it so I could be wrong there, for now I've got pccardd hacked to skip configs with no io (this is probably wrong) what I'm going to do is back that out and specify another ID in my pccard.conf. Question: what should pccardd do with two config tuples with the same ID. b) The driver allocation fails with EINVAL over irq allocation, if I force (by hacking up allocate_driver) the right irq it all works. I haven't yet fully understood all the irq masking stuff but I think I'll get to the bottom of this by tracking the sources of the masks back to their origins. I also see no changes in the code I've been looking over for some time (and I've been tracking stable every few days for some time now). I can only conclude that something else in my configuration has changed lately without my noticing. >> 2: The floppy drive cannot be used once FreeBSD is up and running, >> it >> is recognised at boot time it even can be heard to do a seek to track zero >> as >> the driver initialises but attempt to access it from a prompt (dd, mount >> mdir >> anything) and the thing doesn't even spin up. > > Ack. Is anyone else seeing this? Obviously none of the developers > have hit this, or we'd have heard about it by now. Small observation - I only noticed this because I couldn't get online so I wanted to use the floppy to move some sources from another machine. Weeks can go by without me using a floppy under normal conditions and I suspect I am not the only one. > Do you have an old kernel you can boot? Not on the right machine :(, but I now have a hacked one that will let me get things back in order :). I am happier and understand pccard handling much better now - much happier comes when I fully understand how this went wrong on me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Steve O'Hara-Smith On 12-Feb-99 At 08:54:52 Tell a computer to WIN and ... ... You LOSE! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 00:00:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04404 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:00:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04388 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990212080037.BMZL12321.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:00:37 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990212000036.00a30100@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:00:36 -0800 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <006401be560e$322578c0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail> <19990211003722.A38026@scientia.demon.co.uk> <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990211132154.00a63aa0@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:30 PM 2/11/99 -0600, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: >The kernel sources are the entire /usr/src/sys tree (in your case >/usr/src/3.0-STABLE/sys) and are used to compile the "/kernel" program, that >is need to run your system. Okay... so when I run ctm, should I replace all the /usr/src/sys files/directories with the new ones I put in /usr/src/3.0-STABLE? I notice that the two directories have almost the same stuff in them... if I try to run ctm in /usr/src/sys, however, it exits with errors. Thanks, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 00:08:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05183 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:08:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.elsevier.nl (ns.elsevier.nl [145.36.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05173 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:08:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sohara@mardil.elsevier.nl) Received: from olorin.elsevier.nl by ns.elsevier.nl with SMTP (PP); Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:11:09 +0100 Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (mardil.elsevier.nl [145.36.13.30]) by olorin.elsevier.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06163; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:08:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from mardil.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mardil.elsevier.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24369; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:07:58 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:07:57 +0100 (MET) X-Face: %]+HVL}K`P8>+8ZcY-WGHP6j@&mxMo9JH6_WdgIgUGH)JX/usO0%jy7T~IVgqjumD^OBqX, Kv^-GM6mlw(fI^$"QRKyZ$?xx/ From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Recent pccard and floppy problem Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > b) The driver allocation fails with EINVAL over irq allocation, if I > force (by hacking up allocate_driver) the right irq it all works. I haven't > yet I spoke too soon, the card is recognised ifconfig does it's thing but I can't get any data through it :(. Back to the drawing board. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Steve O'Hara-Smith On 12-Feb-99 At 09:07:57 Tell a computer to WIN and ... ... You LOSE! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 00:16:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06334 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netrinsics.com ([210.74.176.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06325; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 00:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id QAA00658; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:11:30 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:11:30 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199902120811.QAA00658@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recent pccard and floppy problem Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Steve O'Hara-Smith" writes: > 1: pccard no longer attaches my NE2000 clone card, pccardd properly >finds the ed0 driver but doesn't use the port and memory info from the tuple >but seems to pick up some quite bogus defaults (port 0x240 mem 0) I haven't >figured out where from yet (they are not what the driver is configured to nor >are they in any of the tuples). Try configuring the driver for 0x240, and see if that works. It did for me. (At least for the port part. IRQ's I had to hard-code into the pcic driver.) -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 03:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22034 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from white.peterson.lviv.ua ([195.5.34.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22025 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 03:03:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ray@peterson.lviv.ua) Received: from peterson.lviv.ua ([195.5.34.123]) by white.peterson.lviv.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16599 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:51:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ray@peterson.lviv.ua) Message-ID: <36C407ED.ABD3F5CD@peterson.lviv.ua> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:52:29 +0200 From: Yuriy Rakhletskyy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HELP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG HELP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 04:15:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02420 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:15:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alushta.NL.net (alushta.NL.net [193.78.240.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02414 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by alushta.NL.net with UUCP id <4980-8405>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:15:01 +0100 Received: from nemesis.stuyts.nl (uucp@localhost) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id NAA21655 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:10:10 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from giskard.stuyts.nl (giskard.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.1]) by nemesis.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04486 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:09:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from benst) Received: (from benst@localhost) by giskard.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03283 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:09:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902121209.NAA03283@giskard.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 13:09:19 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp problem Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sometimes I have a problem connecting to my ISP. It looks like an authentication problem, but I'm not sure. It shouldn't happen really, because usually the ppp connection comes up fine. Sometimes it keeps on failing however, and the only solution is to power cycle the modem. (a ZyXEL Elite 2864 ISDN) ATZ is not enough. It is a dial on demand connection, so it is really annoying that it sometimes won't work. Here is the ppp log file, and I hope someone can help me understand what is actually going wrong: Feb 12 12:45:03 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Establish Feb 12 12:45:03 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed -> opening Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Redial timer expired. Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: Phone: xxxxxxxxxx Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: deflink: Dial attempt 1 of 1 Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATZ^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATZ^M^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATE1Q0^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATE1Q0^M^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATB50DIxxxxxxxxxx ^M Feb 12 12:45:05 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Expect(60): CONNECT Feb 12 12:45:06 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATB50DIxxxxxxxxxx ^M^M Feb 12 12:45:06 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 115200/PPP 64000/NONE^M Feb 12 12:45:06 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Chat: Send: ^M Feb 12 12:45:08 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> login Feb 12 12:45:08 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Feb 12 12:45:08 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Feb 12 12:45:08 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Feb 12 12:45:08 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(17) state = Stopped Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(17) state = Req-Sent Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Req-Sent Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(1) state = Req-Sent Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(2) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(2) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:12 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(3) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(3) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:15 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(4) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(4) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:18 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(18) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigReq(5) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigAck(5) state = Ack-Sent Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) Feb 12 12:45:21 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0xc36eb7d9 Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Ack-Sent --> Stopped Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> hangup Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 19 secs: 237 octets in, 487 octets out Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: total 38 bytes/sec, peak 67 bytes/sec on Fri Feb 12 12:45:24 1999 Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> closed Feb 12 12:45:24 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead Here is my ppp.conf file. I'm using the xs4all-demand entry. default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 disable lqr deny lqr set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sANSWER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATZ OK ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK ATB50DI\\T TIMEOUT 30 CONNECT \\d" set redial 3 set filter alive 0 deny icmp set filter alive 1 deny udp src eq 53 set filter alive 2 deny udp dst eq 53 set filter alive 3 deny udp src eq 520 set filter alive 4 deny udp dst eq 520 set filter alive 5 deny udp src eq 123 set filter alive 6 deny udp dst eq 123 set filter alive 7 permit 0/0 0/0 set filter dial 0 deny icmp set filter dial 1 deny udp src eq 123 set filter dial 2 deny udp dst eq 123 set filter dial 3 deny udp src eq 137 set filter dial 4 deny udp dst eq 137 set filter dial 5 permit 0/0 0/0 set timeout 300 xs4all-demand: allow user xxxx set phone xxxxxxx accept pap set authname "xxxx" set authkey "xxxx" set ifaddr 194.109.57.80/0 194.109.6.1/0 add default HISADDR set openmode active alias enable yes set server /var/tmp/internet "" 0177 set timeout 300 Thanks, Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 04:34:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03985 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:34:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alushta.NL.net (alushta.NL.net [193.78.240.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03977 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 04:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by alushta.NL.net with UUCP id <5171-8405>; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:34:15 +0100 Received: from nemesis.stuyts.nl (uucp@localhost) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id NAA21907 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:32:01 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from giskard.stuyts.nl (giskard.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.1]) by nemesis.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04783 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:31:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from benst) Received: (from benst@localhost) by giskard.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03300 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:31:38 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199902121231.NAA03300@giskard.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Fri, 12 Feb 99 13:31:36 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp problem Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I said: > Sometimes I have a problem connecting to my ISP. It looks like an > authentication problem, but I'm not sure. It shouldn't happen really, > because usually the ppp connection comes up fine. Sometimes it keeps on > failing however, and the only solution is to power cycle the modem. (a ZyXEL > Elite 2864 ISDN) ATZ is not enough. It is a dial on demand connection, so it > is really annoying that it sometimes won't work. Forgot to mention: This is on FreeBSD 2-stable. Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 05:33:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10845 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 05:33:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (hm1.hotmail.com [207.82.250.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10839 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 05:33:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan_rairigh@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 24370 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 13:33:11 -0000 Received: from pntcmi138037.voyager.net (HELO LocalHost) (209.153.138.37) by hm1.hotmail.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 13:33:11 -0000 From: "Stefan A. Rairigh" To: Subject: Please include me in your mailing list Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:35:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be568c$946aa5e0$0100007f@LocalHost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please include me in your mailing list To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 07:37:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26363 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:37:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Prime-FE2.lvcablemodem.com (prime-fe2.lvcablemodem.com [24.234.0.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26356 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blackthorne@utah-inter.net) Received: from blackthorne - 24.234.20.200 by lvcablemodem.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:41:56 -0800 From: "Micheal Blackthorne" To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:39:37 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01be569d$e5e50bc0$c814ea18@blackthorne> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am very new to FreeBSD and have been trying for some time to get it working on a spare PC of mine. The problem is that it appears that I complete the installation of FreeBSD only to reboot and find myself at a "Boot:" prompt. After waiting for a few seconds at this prompt it automatically scrolls the screen displaying "Invalid Format!" and then the same information which appears to be a command options list for the "Boot:" prompt. I have already contacted freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG and the individual that responded was not able to resolve the problem. He in turn suggested I contact freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG. They in turn were mostly rude and referred me to this list. The version of FreeBSD that I am trying to install is: CD_VERSION = 3.0-19990209-STABLE I made the CD myself, by downloading the files under the -STABLE section. If needed I can provide a listing of the CD. Here is a list of the hardware on the system: 486 DX/2 66 Mhz 8 Megs ram 240 Meg HD 1.44 Meg 3 1/2 8x Mitsumi CD-Rom Realtek VGA 1 Meg 8019 ISA Ethernet Controller ALS120 PnP Sound Card and other minor peripherals (mouse, keyboard, etc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 08:18:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01341 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4-204.ix.netcom.com [209.110.246.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01160 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA19659; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:18:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199902121618.IAA19659@netcom1.netcom.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: behaviour of atime Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had a problem with leafnode+ where atime was not updated on a file when the file was read if the file is empty. Is this the expected behaviour? Even opening the file with emacs doesn't update atime. If I put something in the file then atime works as expected. I am using -stable 3.0, and have soft updates installed. The stat(2) and read(2) docs say nothing about this condition. Reading from an empty file is an error, of course... Thanks, Mike Harding To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 08:51:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05249 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rebma.ghostwheel.com (rebma.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05244 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:50:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Received: from avalon (avernus.ghostwheel.com [207.201.56.82] (may be forged)) by rebma.ghostwheel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13748; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-stb@ghostwheel.com) Message-Id: <4.1.19990212084613.009d7c70@pop2.ghostwheel.com> X-Sender: fbsd-stb@pop2.ghostwheel.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:47:34 -0800 To: Jonathan Fosburgh , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Knight Subject: Re: Upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.1-BETA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There are a few things to watch for, especially since 3.x is now using an elf kernel. Ruslan Ermilov has written an excellent step-by-step for upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.x. Here is the URL: http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html -ck At 12:59 AM 2/12/99 -0600, Jonathan Fosburgh wrote: >Having noticed that 3.1 is now is BETA stage, are there currently any >outstanding isssues for upgrading from 2.2.8-RELEASE? I am currently >CVSuping the sources at about 2AM Eastern time. Can I do this safely or >ought I wait a little longer, possibly until 3.1-RELEASE comes out? > >Jonathan Fosburgh >Home Page: >http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 >Manager, FreeBSD Webring: >http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 09:12:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08144 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:12:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from horse.supranet.net (horse.supranet.net [205.164.160.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08139 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:12:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gavinb@supranet.net) Received: from rat (rat.supranet.net [205.164.160.15]) by horse.supranet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA16047 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:12:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <4.1.19990212111447.00b7b1e0@mail.supranet.net> X-Sender: gavinb@mail.supranet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:15:05 -0600 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Gavin Subject: Re: Upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.1-BETA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I did notice, while running through this upgrade process today that I had to add another step into the tutorial. The problem was that it could not find ldconfig, which basically left me with a completely unusable system. I corrected by recopying the files back, then running after step 4: set PATH = (/{bin,sbin} /usr/{bin,sbin} /usr/local/{bin,sbin} /usr/X11R6/bin) Then continuing with step 5 and all went well, at least so far... :) Ben Gavin At 08:47 AM 2/12/99 -0800, you wrote: >There are a few things to watch for, especially since 3.x is now using an >elf kernel. > >Ruslan Ermilov has written an excellent step-by-step for >upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.x. Here is the URL: > >http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html > >-ck > > >At 12:59 AM 2/12/99 -0600, Jonathan Fosburgh wrote: >>Having noticed that 3.1 is now is BETA stage, are there currently any >>outstanding isssues for upgrading from 2.2.8-RELEASE? I am currently >>CVSuping the sources at about 2AM Eastern time. Can I do this safely or >>ought I wait a little longer, possibly until 3.1-RELEASE comes out? >> >>Jonathan Fosburgh >>Home Page: >>http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 >>Manager, FreeBSD Webring: >>http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message /--------------------------------------------------------------------------/ Benjamin Gavin - Senior Consultant *********** NO SPAM!! ************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 09:22:03 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09503 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09474 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 09:21:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA32282 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:21:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:21:51 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spontanous reboots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In some messages I read that some users of FBSD 3.0-STABLE have had problems with spontanous reboots. Well, we use FBSD 3.0-stable as a server OS for our double PII system and for the printserver, a small 486DX2-66 box with 32 MB RAM. After upgrading to 3.0-stable both systems turned into this crazy behavour of booting without any error messages, and on booth systems it seemed that the rhythmn of "rebooting" was about 60 or 70 minutes. When I started a rebuild of the system on the mainserver, this occurance of this obscure error came much faster than within the usual 60 minutes. The compiler died, the system stoped and rebooted. I fixed the problem by changing the value of an new kernel option. Well, I don't know whether this is the solution for the many similar problems reported here, but it fixed my problems! The new kernel option is options "PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=201" In LINT it is set to 201, default seems to be 200. Well, my understandings of kernel functionality is not clear and "enriched", but for the case I'm right: this option defines the value of "preallocated" pages for EACH process forked and started. The intention seems to be speeding up starts of processes on heavy duty servers with a lot of memory. We use 256MB RAM on our server and I played around with the option and pushed the value towards 288 - since then the system turned into spontanous reboots! Now I use a value of 208 for our system, and I decreased the value for our printserver - since then the crazy behaviour stopped. I hope this helps. Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- harto000@mail.uni-mainz.de ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de i.A. 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S." Organization: InterLine Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with sound card. Please help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all I have a problem with installation of a sound card (ESS 1868 - very primitive?) on a FreeBSD-2.2.5 box. Unfortunately I very little know about multimedia. Win'95 said me, that the card uses IRQ 5 DMA 1 I/O 220. I have added to the kernel config: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr and create snd0 node, but the new kernel said "sb0 not found at 0x220". I tried to use other devices too... no success. Please help :~-( Thanx, E. S. P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 10:52:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19057 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:52:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ceia.nordier.com (m1-36-dbn.dial-up.net [196.34.155.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19051 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rnordier@nordier.com) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by ceia.nordier.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id UAA17199; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:51:35 +0200 (SAT) From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199902121851.UAA17199@ceia.nordier.com> Subject: Re: [Trouble at the "Boot:" prompt] In-Reply-To: <000b01be569d$e5e50bc0$c814ea18@blackthorne> from Micheal Blackthorne at "Feb 12, 99 07:39:37 am" To: blackthorne@utah-inter.net (Micheal Blackthorne) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:51:33 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Micheal Blackthorne wrote: > I am very new to FreeBSD and have been trying for some time to get it > working on a spare PC of mine. The problem is that it appears that I > complete the installation of FreeBSD only to reboot and find myself at a > "Boot:" prompt. After waiting for a few seconds at this prompt it > automatically scrolls the screen displaying "Invalid Format!" and then the > same information which appears to be a command options list for the "Boot:" > prompt. I have already contacted freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG and the > individual that responded was not able to resolve the problem. He in turn > suggested I contact freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG. They in turn were mostly > rude and referred me to this list. Sorry you've been having a hard time getting your question answered. This really is the sort of thing that *should* have been dealt with on the -questions list (but that's hardly your fault). Try typing /boot/loader at the "Boot:" prompt. If that doesn't get you going, e-mail me off-line and we can probably get you up and running reasonably quickly. -- Robert Nordier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 11:10:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20741 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20727 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:10:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA15505 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:10:36 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1520 invoked by uid 1000); 12 Feb 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:10:09 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Ben Stuyts cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp problem In-Reply-To: <199902121209.NAA03283@giskard.stuyts.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sometimes I have a problem connecting to my ISP. It looks like an > authentication problem, but I'm not sure. It shouldn't happen really, because > usually the ppp connection comes up fine. Sometimes it keeps on failing > however, and the only solution is to power cycle the modem. (a ZyXEL Elite > 2864 ISDN) ATZ is not enough. It is a dial on demand connection, so it is > really annoying that it sometimes won't work. Dump your dumb Zyxel. They are so full of bugs that I'm wondering why you don't notice them crawling on your table. And you even prove that yourself with the statements above ("sometimes it keeps on failing and the only solution is to power cycle the modem"). If putting the 2846I into the trashbin is not an option, I would strongly suggest you check if there is a firmware update available. Sorry for the bad tone in my message, but I've been bitten by Zyxel bugs way too many times. And I've tried them all: Elite's, Omni's, Prestiges.... Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 11:30:14 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23217 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23104 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA204156729; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:38:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: "Panenko E. S." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sound card. Please help. In-Reply-To: <36C44D13.CA2E58CA@interline.ivanovo.ru> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Panenko E. S. wrote: > I have a problem with installation of a sound card (ESS 1868 - very > primitive?) on a FreeBSD-2.2.5 box. Unfortunately I very little know > about multimedia. Win'95 said me, that the card uses IRQ 5 DMA 1 I/O > 220. I have added to the kernel config: > > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector > sbintr controller pnp0 device pcm0.... there are instructions in LINT. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 11:53:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26533 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay02.netaddress.usa.net (relay02.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA26518 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 1500354@usa.net) Received: (qmail 26983 invoked from network); 12 Feb 1999 19:53:23 -0000 Received: from nw175.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.75) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 12 Feb 1999 19:53:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7893 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 1999 19:53:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990212195323.7892.qmail@nw175.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.253.79.108 by www.netaddress.com via web-mailer(3.1) on Fri Feb 12 19:53:23 GMT 1999 Date: 12 Feb 99 14:53:23 EST From: net work <1500354@usa.net> To: CC: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG MY system .... Pentium-75 ram-8 megs Hard-dirve 1 gig dual boot... win-95 was on the HD first, then... FreeBSD-3.0-19990208-STABLE was added recently Operating system - 'FreeBSD-3.0-19990208-STABLE' The problem .... Initially i hadn't installed the *ports collection* (HD space concerns) and decided i would install the ports i needed as time went on. When i first attempted to install vnc, it told me it 'couldn't find the make files.' Not even after rebooting. Also when i tried to cd to the directories where the 'make files' reside, /usr/share/mk AND /usrports/Mk the system responded "no such directory" Which now i am told has to be there or the system will NOT boot. In a last ditch effort to to install the 'vnc' port, I thot, "maybe i need something from the ports collection and started downloading it. While downloading the ports collection, a nick on irc said what i was doing shouldn't be necessary. so i aborted the download. And tried the 'make install' from /usr/ports/net/vnc yet again. Now it wants to work! Now that it seems it wants to work, the following is happening; I get the following error when i use the command 'make install' in the /usr/ports/net/vnc ports directory; /usr/bin/tar: archive EOf not on block boundary After searching the questions & Stable maillist archives, i have only found 2 hits with this error stated in them and no public posting of a response. Would you be so kind, as to help with this error? I have seen one other odd-ity / problem but have not yet been able to reproduce them as yet. E.G. while coming out of,the screen saver *blank screen* the complete OS froze on me. to the point of me having to shut the power down. <-- At this time i was logged in to tty0. Everything i typed, was like i was typing a letter (no prompt returned after pressing key or ctrl + c. <-[this only happened once] long wind... you think? ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 12:41:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03729 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03724; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (root@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA16098; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:37 -0800 Received: from S8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.9.2+UW99.01/8.9.2+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA26851; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: net work <1500354@usa.net> cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19990212195323.7892.qmail@nw175.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Feb 1999, net work wrote: >Initially i hadn't installed the *ports collection* (HD space concerns) and >decided i would install the ports i needed as time went on. When i first >attempted to install vnc, it told me it 'couldn't find the make files.' Not >even after rebooting. Also when i tried to cd to the directories where the >'make files' reside, /usr/share/mk AND /usrports/Mk >the system responded "no such directory" Which now i am told has to be there You need /usr/ports/Mk. To get this you need to install the ports collection -or- grab that directory off of ftp. I recommend keeping the entire ports collection so that you stay up to date when little things like /usr/ports/Mk change. Catchya Later, | Give me UNIX or give me a typewriter. Jason Wells | http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 13:05:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05971 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:05:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05940 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25042; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:00:34 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA54978; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:40:05 GMT (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199902121840.SAA54978@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: ben@stuyts.nl cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:09:19 +0100." <199902121209.NAA03283@giskard.stuyts.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:40:05 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hello, > > Sometimes I have a problem connecting to my ISP. It looks like an > authentication problem, but I'm not sure. It shouldn't happen really, because [.....] > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(17) > state = Stopped > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x57e051b2 > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped > --> Req-Sent > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: deflink: RecvConfigRej(17) > state = Req-Sent > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] > Feb 12 12:45:09 nemesis ppp[2181]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] [.....] Try adding disable acfcomp protocomp to your profile. > Thanks, > Ben -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 14:07:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13933 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:07:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13924 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:07:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA04345; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: net work <1500354@usa.net> cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "12 Feb 1999 14:53:23 EST." <19990212195323.7892.qmail@nw175.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 14:07:33 -0800 Message-ID: <4342.918857253@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1. Please don't cross-post to both questions and stable; just one list is correct. 2. Don't believe what people tell you on IRC. You need the ports collection and you needed it all along. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 15:26:58 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21727 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:26:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net ([209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21718 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25907; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:26:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000d01be56df$21caff00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Cc: References: <3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail><3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail><3.0.5.32.19990210150614.00a6c140@mail><19990211003722.A38026@scientia.demon.co.uk><3.0.5.32.19990211001809.00942380@mail><3.0.5.32.19990211132154.00a63aa0@mail> <3.0.5.32.19990212000036.00a30100@mail> Subject: Re: wrong config for kernel Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:26:30 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2013.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2013.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: > At 04:30 PM 2/11/99 -0600, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > >The kernel sources are the entire /usr/src/sys tree (in your case > >/usr/src/3.0-STABLE/sys) and are used to compile the "/kernel" program, that > >is need to run your system. > > Okay... so when I run ctm, should I replace all the /usr/src/sys > files/directories with the new ones I put in /usr/src/3.0-STABLE? I notice > that the two directories have almost the same stuff in them... if I try to > run ctm in /usr/src/sys, however, it exits with errors. Thanks, > You need to re-create the /sys link so that it points to /usr/src/3.0-STABLE/sys instead of /usr/sys. rm /sys ln -s /sys /usr/src/3.0-STABLE/sys Then try to compile your kernel sources. scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 15:31:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22329 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:31:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22323 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA70863 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:31:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:31:26 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable mailing list at FreeBSD Subject: Re: w Message-ID: <19990212153126.A70701@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990211035844.62C7646B04@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990211035844.62C7646B04@pobox.com>; from Jon Hamilton on Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 09:58:44PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Likely candidates are xterm and other windowing terminal emulators, > screen, etc. And sshd from the SSH port. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 16:16:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29355 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:16:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from barnes1.wustl.edu (barnes1.wustl.edu [128.252.162.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29309 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu) Received: (from wayne@localhost) by barnes1.wustl.edu (8.9.2/8.7.3) id SAA00285 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:27:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Wayne M. Barnes" Message-Id: <199902130027.SAA00285@barnes1.wustl.edu> Subject: MAKEDEV all To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (stable mailing list at FreeBSD) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:27:28 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSD Stabilizers, The following is a bit flow of conciousness, like it happened. I believe the conclusion is that 3.0-STABLE's MAKEDEV needs updating, or the makefiles need updating to update MAKEDEV Here's the story: My system won't boot at all. It has been fine, but I took it down to add another drive. I can read / and /etc/fstab and get the directory of /dev, all at the prompt #. The messages below are correct. /fstab refers to /dev/wd0s1a /dev/wd0s1e /dev/wd0s1f BUT! These files are indeed not there in /dev ! How could I have had the system up at all? Perhaps a sh MAKEDEV all that I performed wiped out these devices, and I haven't happened to have rebooted since then. [Boot messages .... can't stat /dev/wd0s1a: No such file or directory /dev/wd0s1a: CAN'T CHECK FILE SYSTEM UNEXPECTED INSCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY Automatic file system check failed ... help! ] Here's how I got out of this jam: # mount /dev/wd0s1 /usr # Now the / is writable as /usr # cd /usr/dev # This is really /dev # ./MAKEDEV wd0s1a chgrp: not found # Is this going to hurt me someday? # ls wd0* # all the slices a-g are there! # reboot I don't believe I'll do a 'MAKEDEV all' to repeat this, unless a developer asks me to suffer for data for the cause. FreeBSD barnes1.wustl.edu 3.0-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 9 13:14:45 CST 1999 wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu:/usr/src.3.0-stable/sys/compile/GENEONE i386 -- Wayne M. Barnes wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 18:08:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10969 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10960 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:08:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from quark.feynman.com (IDENT:fpawlak@planetx-2-144.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.142.210]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.0) id UAA06396; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:08:00 -0600 (CST) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by quark.feynman.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA18700; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:08:37 -0600 (EST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:08:36 -0600 From: Frank Pawlak To: Micheal Blackthorne Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <19990212200836.A18674@quark.feynman.com> References: <000b01be569d$e5e50bc0$c814ea18@blackthorne> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <000b01be569d$e5e50bc0$c814ea18@blackthorne>; from Micheal Blackthorne on Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 07:39:37AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am not sure whether I can help you or not, my installs all worked out fine. Perhaps I am just lucky. ;-) Can you provide more detail on how the install went. For any reason do you suspect that the install was not completed properly. For example, did it ask you for a root password, or to setup a user account. Where you asked if you wished to register your copy of FreeBSD. Those are some of the things that can be quickly recalled that occur when the installation process is completed and has worked properly. After install did the system reboot or did you have to reboot manually. Stay with it as it is worth while just to run FreeBSD. Frank On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 07:39:37AM -0800, Micheal Blackthorne wrote: > I am very new to FreeBSD and have been trying for some time to get it > working on a spare PC of mine. The problem is that it appears that I > complete the installation of FreeBSD only to reboot and find myself at a > "Boot:" prompt. After waiting for a few seconds at this prompt it > automatically scrolls the screen displaying "Invalid Format!" and then the > same information which appears to be a command options list for the "Boot:" > prompt. I have already contacted freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG and the > individual that responded was not able to resolve the problem. He in turn > suggested I contact freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG. They in turn were mostly > rude and referred me to this list. The version of FreeBSD that I am trying > to install is: > > CD_VERSION = 3.0-19990209-STABLE > > I made the CD myself, by downloading the files under the -STABLE section. > If needed I can provide a listing of the CD. > > Here is a list of the hardware on the system: > > 486 DX/2 66 Mhz > 8 Megs ram > 240 Meg HD > 1.44 Meg 3 1/2 > 8x Mitsumi CD-Rom > Realtek VGA 1 Meg > 8019 ISA Ethernet Controller > ALS120 PnP Sound Card > and other minor peripherals (mouse, keyboard, etc) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 20:23:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24769 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:23:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24755 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:23:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (ppp166.dialup.st.keio.ac.jp [131.113.27.166]) by titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/3.7W) with ESMTP id NAA24783; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:21:59 +0900 (JST) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id NAA08539; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:21:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:21:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199902130421.NAA08539@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: billf@chc-chimes.com Cc: esp@interline.ivanovo.ru, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, sanpei@sanpei.org Subject: Re: Problems with sound card. Please help. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:38:49 JST". From: sanpei@sanpei.org (MIHIRA Yoshiro) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG billf@chc-chimes.com wrote >> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Panenko E. S. wrote: >> >> > I have a problem with installation of a sound card (ESS 1868 - very >> > primitive?) on a FreeBSD-2.2.5 box. Unfortunately I very little know >> > about multimedia. Win'95 said me, that the card uses IRQ 5 DMA 1 I/O >> > 220. I have added to the kernel config: >> > >> > controller snd0 >> > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector >> > sbintr >> >> controller pnp0 >> device pcm0.... >> >> there are instructions in LINT. pcm driver in 2.2.5-RELEASE is not support ESS1868 native mode. Please try below patch. But I tested 2.2.7-RELEASE and later version of FreeBSD(2.2.8 and 3-stabe). http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~sanpei/ MIHIRA Yoshiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 20:27:16 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25044 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25038 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05250 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:27:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:27:08 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Almost 100% successful upgrade 2.2.8->3.1-BETA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I completed my upgrade to last night's 3.1-BETA with only one or two heart-stopping moments. ;) The only thing that remains is a problem with ldconfig. It creates /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints just fine, and so all the elf binaries I just installed work fine. The problem is I cannot get it to create /var/run/ld.so.hints, and so I currently have no access to X or any of my ports! (At least the binary ones). I set up the ldconfig in rc.conf and I have also tried command line. Here is what my libraries look like: /usr/lib -> elf /usr/lib/aout -> aout /usr/local/lib -> aout /usr/local/lib/aout -> empty /usr/X11R6/lib -> aout /usr/X11R6/lib/aout -> empty. Just to clarify things, it does not even load /usr/lib/aout. Before I go and reinstall X and my ports from the ground up (Ugh!), is there something I am not doing, or did somebody screw up ldconfig recently? Jonathan Fosburgh Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 12 21:58:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01108 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:58:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01103 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:58:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chemtechweb@psn.net) Received: from 3-77.phx.psn.net ([209.63.183.107] helo=psn.net) by neptune.psn.net with esmtp (PSN Internet Service 2.10 #1) id 10BY5r-0005Vm-00; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:58:20 -0700 Message-ID: <36C514DB.D361E0B4@psn.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:59:55 -0700 From: Emmanuel Gravel Reply-To: chemtechweb@psn.net Organization: Orbit Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Fosburgh CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Almost 100% successful upgrade 2.2.8->3.1-BETA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I set up the ldconfig in > rc.conf and I have also tried command line. Here is what my libraries > look like: > > /usr/lib -> elf > /usr/lib/aout -> aout > /usr/local/lib -> aout > /usr/local/lib/aout -> empty > /usr/X11R6/lib -> aout > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout -> empty. > Just did the same upgrade and it works fine. What do the ldconfig lines in rc.conf look like for you? The libraries are the same for me (at least the X11 libraries) but a small modification to the ldconfig lines in rc.conf was enough, now I can run everything. Manu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 01:02:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA14783 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:02:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from turkey.ispro.net.tr (turkey.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14778 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:02:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@turkey.ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by turkey.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07561; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:01:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@turkey.ispro.net.tr) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:01:23 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Ilias Sachpazidis cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: calcru In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it is probably a hardware failure check the faq pages at freebsd.org On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Ilias Sachpazidis wrote: > > Hi, > > I got that message : > > calcru: negative time of -77345163 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77344994 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77344852 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77276366 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77276200 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77276060 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77209034 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > calcru: negative time of -77208797 usec for pid 5230 (ssh1) > > What is that ? There is any problem ? > > I have 3.0-19990206-STABLE > > > regards > > --- > Ilias Sachpazidis > e-mail: isachpaz@teimes.gr > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 04:31:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02759 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from merlin.vk8ah.org (ppp82.accessnt.com.au [203.39.3.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02754; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:31:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ahodges@ozemail.com.au) Received: from scooby (scooby.vk8ah.org [10.0.3.4]) by merlin.vk8ah.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00339; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:05:54 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <001d01be574c$e992de00$0403000a@scooby.vk8ah.org> From: "Andrew Hodges" To: , Subject: Using Interface Aliases on FreeBSD with ipfw Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:02:23 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE579C.891DD160" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE579C.891DD160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, for purely availability reasons I am using on old DECpc 433W as a = filtering Firewall with ipfw on 2.2.8. This sytem has only one ethernet interface and I have been using = in with ppp through the serial port. I am putting ISDN in place and the TA I have has an = ethernet interface.=20 I am wondering if it would be feasible to use the same interface le0 = with 2 ip addresses on different subnets using something like:=20 ifconfig_le0_alias0=3D"inet 139.100.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_le0_alias1=3D"inet 192.168.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" and use rc.firewall with the same interface and natd. Is this possible? Are there any issues? Thanks Andrew ahodges@ozemail.com.au ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE579C.891DD160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
for purely availability reasons I am = using on=20 old DECpc 433W as a filtering Firewall with ipfw on
2.2.8. This sytem has only one ethernet interface = and I have=20 been using in with ppp through the
serial port. I am putting ISDN in place and the TA I = have has=20 an ethernet interface.
 
I am wondering if it would be feasible to use the = same=20 interface le0 with 2 ip addresses on different
subnets using something like:
 
 ifconfig_le0_alias0=3D"inet 139.100.1.1 = netmask=20 255.255.255.0"
 ifconfig_le0_alias1=3D"inet = 192.168.2.1 netmask=20 255.255.255.0"
 
and use rc.firewall with the same interface and=20 natd.
 
Is this possible? Are there any issues?
 
Thanks
Andrew
 
ahodges@ozemail.com.au<= /DIV>
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE579C.891DD160-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 07:43:26 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15521 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zinc.singnet.com.sg (zinc.singnet.com.sg [165.21.7.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15514 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chamaras@singnet.com.sg) Received: from singnet.com.sg (qtns01629.singnet.com.sg [165.21.163.219]) by zinc.singnet.com.sg (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA15638 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:43:20 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <36C59DC3.43459D5A@singnet.com.sg> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:44:03 +0800 From: Chamara Somaratne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD - stable Subject: 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------96E5E025BA3703E1B3FC62F2" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------96E5E025BA3703E1B3FC62F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am at the moment running 2.2.6-stable. Was thinking about upgrading to a later release. Can somebody provide some advise as to whether I should go with 3.0.0(Nov 98) or 2.2.8 (Dec 98) or 3.1 (March 99 - btw is this in the stable branch?) Here's my concern. I have this 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL card which is at the moment not supported by 2.2.6, My concern is which of the newer releases provide better operation with this NIC. cheers, KC. --------------96E5E025BA3703E1B3FC62F2 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="chamaras.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Chamara Somaratne Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="chamaras.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard n:Somaratne;Chamara tel;cell:+65-97359450 tel;fax:+65-7595562 tel;home:+65-7595562 tel;work:+65-3604620 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.singnet.com.sg/~chamaras/ org:Manufacturing Systems;Chartered Semiconductor Mfg. Ltd. version:2.1 email;internet:chamaras@singnet.com.sg title:CIM Engineer adr;quoted-printable:;;60 Woodlands Industrial Park D,=0D=0AStreet 2,=0D=0ASingapore 738406;;;; x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 fn:KC end:vcard --------------96E5E025BA3703E1B3FC62F2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 08:07:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17661 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:07:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [192.139.81.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17651 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net ([192.139.81.180]:11785 "EHLO shattered" ident: "veers") by disturbed.net with ESMTP id <61569-28099>; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:08:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: Alex Perel To: Chamara Somaratne cc: FreeBSD - stable Subject: Re: 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL In-Reply-To: <36C59DC3.43459D5A@singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, Chamara Somaratne wrote: > Hi, > > I am at the moment running 2.2.6-stable. Was thinking about upgrading > to a later release. Can somebody provide some advise as to whether I > should go with 3.0.0(Nov 98) or 2.2.8 (Dec 98) or 3.1 (March 99 - btw > is this in the stable branch?) > > Here's my concern. I have this 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL card which > is at the moment not supported by 2.2.6, My concern is which of the > newer > releases provide better operation with this NIC. All of the above do. I would assume that the 3.1 branch has the latest revisions though. If you are planning to do a source upgrade you will have an infinitely easier (not to mention safer) time goign to 2.2.8 than to 3.x because of the tremendous changes in the 3.x tree. I'm running 2.2.8-STABLE with a Fast Etherlink XL, no problems.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- // Alex Perel \\ \\ // // veers@disturbed.net -=- veers@gomad.com \\ \\ shotgun@feh.net // // \\ \\ Disturbed Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD // // == The Power to Serve -=- http://www.freebsd.org/ \\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 08:08:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17813 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17777 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:07:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id BAA16894; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:07:11 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36C5A2F6.F163DBCE@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:06:14 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chamara Somaratne CC: FreeBSD - stable Subject: Re: 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL References: <36C59DC3.43459D5A@singnet.com.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chamara Somaratne wrote: > > I am at the moment running 2.2.6-stable. Was thinking about upgrading > to a later release. Can somebody provide some advise as to whether I > should go with 3.0.0(Nov 98) or 2.2.8 (Dec 98) or 3.1 (March 99 - btw > is this in the stable branch?) "3.0.0" (just 3.0, actually), at the date you mention, is *not* in the stable branch. That was on the current branch. 3.1-release, which should be out this week, is on the stable branch. Since the 2.x line is not going to receive further development, by all means you should go to 3.x-stable. BUT, wait until 3.1-release. > Here's my concern. I have this 3c905B-TX FastEtherlink XL card which > is at the moment not supported by 2.2.6, My concern is which of the > newer > releases provide better operation with this NIC. Unfortunately, I can't answer this question. But, if it is supported at all, it should be supported on the 3.x-stable branch. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org Well, as a computer geek, I have to believe in the binary universe. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 08:28:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19123 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:28:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19059 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:28:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA033532208; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:36:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:36:48 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: MIHIRA Yoshiro Cc: esp@interline.ivanovo.ru, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sound card. Please help. In-Reply-To: <199902130421.NAA08539@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 13 Feb 1999, MIHIRA Yoshiro wrote: > pcm driver in 2.2.5-RELEASE is not support ESS1868 native mode. > > Please try below patch. But I tested 2.2.7-RELEASE and later version > of FreeBSD(2.2.8 and 3-stabe). > > http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~sanpei/ I didn't even notice the 2.2.5-RELEASE. One would think if questions are asked on the -STABLE mailing list, that the asker would be running a -STABLE branch. You can't have your cake and eat it too, the asker should update his sources. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 08:38:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20009 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:38:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19944 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.2/8.9.2/UCB) id SAA63120; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:35:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:35:52 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Jonathan Fosburgh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Almost 100% successful upgrade 2.2.8->3.1-BETA Message-ID: <19990213183552.B55899@ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: Jonathan Fosburgh , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.17i In-Reply-To: ; from Jonathan Fosburgh on Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 10:27:08PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! It seems, that you didn't upgrade your /etc. On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 10:27:08PM -0600, Jonathan Fosburgh wrote: > I completed my upgrade to last night's 3.1-BETA with only one or two > heart-stopping moments. ;) The only thing that remains is a problem with > ldconfig. It creates /var/run/ld-elf.so.hints just fine, and so all the > elf binaries I just installed work fine. The problem is I cannot get it > to create /var/run/ld.so.hints, and so I currently have no access to X or > any of my ports! (At least the binary ones). I set up the ldconfig in > rc.conf and I have also tried command line. Here is what my libraries > look like: > > /usr/lib -> elf > /usr/lib/aout -> aout > /usr/local/lib -> aout > /usr/local/lib/aout -> empty > /usr/X11R6/lib -> aout > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout -> empty. > > Just to clarify things, it does not even load /usr/lib/aout. Before I go > and reinstall X and my ports from the ground up (Ugh!), is there something > I am not doing, or did somebody screw up ldconfig recently? > > Jonathan Fosburgh > Home Page: > http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 > Manager, FreeBSD Webring: > http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 09:11:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22903 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22894 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09313 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990213121635.0537e120@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:18:44 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: bad fxp card or driver issue ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed that on a RELENG_3 box, that I am getting the odd fxp0: device timeout The card was working fine under 2.2 and I am wondering if its just coincidence, or a problem with the driver ? ns3% dmesg | grep irq fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 19 on pci0.9.0 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.10.0 fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 17 on pci0.11.0 vga0: rev 0x5c int a irq 16 on pci1.0.0 atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 22 08:28:49 EST 1999 ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 12:14:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11214 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:14:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11201 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:14:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-208-147-148-93.dialup.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.93]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA00512 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:14:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA09694 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:14:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199902132014.OAA09694@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: bad fxp card or driver issue ? In-reply-to: Message from Mike Tancsa of "Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:18:44 EST." <4.1.19990213121635.0537e120@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:14:35 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa writes: > > I noticed that on a RELENG_3 box, that I am getting the odd > fxp0: device timeout > > The card was working fine under 2.2 and I am wondering if its just > coincidence, or a problem with the driver ? > > ns3% dmesg | grep irq > fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 19 on > pci0.9.0 > ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.10.0 > fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 17 on > pci0.11.0 > vga0: rev 0x5c int a irq 16 on pci1.0.0 > atkbd0 irq 1 on isa > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa > fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa > wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Was I asleep, or when did PC hardware support IRQ's greater than 0-15? Or is the above from an Alpha? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 13:12:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17776 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:12:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17771 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:12:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA19132; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:12:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 15:12:46 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: Emmanuel Gravel cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Almost 100% successful upgrade 2.2.8->3.1-BETA In-Reply-To: <36C514DB.D361E0B4@psn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Emmanuel Gravel wrote: > > I set up the ldconfig in > > rc.conf and I have also tried command line. Here is what my libraries > > look like: > > > > /usr/lib -> elf > > /usr/lib/aout -> aout > > /usr/local/lib -> aout > > /usr/local/lib/aout -> empty > > /usr/X11R6/lib -> aout > > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout -> empty. > > > > Just did the same upgrade and it works fine. What do the ldconfig > lines in rc.conf look like for you? The libraries are the same for me > (at least the X11 libraries) but a small modification to the ldconfig > lines in rc.conf was enough, now I can run everything. > > Manu > I have the ldconfig_paths and ldconfig_paths_aout set (and I can see during the boot sequence that ldconfig_paths works) but the file that contains the aout hints, /var/run/ld.so.hints does not exist and ldconfig won't create it, and when I attempted to touch it, ldconfig died with a bus error. Jonathan Fosburgh Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 13:30:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20164 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:30:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sand2.sentex.ca (sand2.sentex.ca [209.167.248.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20146 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-wat.sentex.net [209.167.248.81]) by sand2.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18546; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:30:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.1.19990213163424.03770d00@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:37:31 -0500 To: David Kelly , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: IRQ reporting (was Re: bad fxp card or driver issue ? ) In-Reply-To: <199902132014.OAA09694@nospam.hiwaay.net> References: <4.1.19990213121635.0537e120@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:14 PM 2/13/99 , David Kelly wrote: > >Was I asleep, or when did PC hardware support IRQ's greater than 0-15? >Or is the above from an Alpha? I dont think it reports them 'correctly' on my SMP box.. I have noticed this on other machines as well. Here is some of the other info... Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE #0: Fri Jan 22 08:28:49 EST 1999 mdtancsa@ns3.recycle.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/ns3 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II (quarter-micron) (686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) config> quit avail memory = 520015872 (507828K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf029c000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 19 on pci0.9.0 chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.4.3 fxp0: rev 0x05 int a irq 19 on pci0.9.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:25:bf:8f ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 18 on pci0.10.0 ahc0: aic7890/91 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp1: rev 0x05 int a irq 17 on pci0.11.0 fxp1: Ethernet address 00:90:27:0f:50:f3 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x5c int a irq 16 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy wfd0: 1.44MB floppy disk loaded wfd0: 80 cyls, 2 heads, 18 S/T, 512 B/S scd0 not found at 0x230 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via pin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 pac kets/entry Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 18:52:37 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07719 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:52:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from destiny.erols.com (destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07698 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) Received: from destiny.erols.com (someone@destiny.erols.com [207.96.73.65]) by destiny.erols.com (8.9.2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA00761; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:00:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:00:29 -0500 (EST) From: John Dowdal To: waterman@acm.org cc: Andre Albsmeier , Stormy Henderson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: network slowdown with rc5des In-Reply-To: <199902020546.VAA06347@home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got my chance to repeat these experiments with the following parameters 3.0-stable cvsupped on 02/13/99 (only kernel recompiled) HZ=1000 Apparnatly HZ=1000 makes little or no difference. Inserting a 'usleep(0)' into the code makes a difference. John rc5des running, idprio 1 bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 1200 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 3800 rc5des running, nice 20 bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 1300 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 4200 rc5des running, idprio 31 bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 1200 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 4400 no rc5des running bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 6900 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 5100 instead of rc5des, run the following program main() { while(1) usleep(0); } Run above program at normal priority bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 5800 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 2800 Run above program at idprio 1 bigfile(bsd)->bigfile(windoze) : 5800 bigfile(windoze)->bigfile(bsd) : 5008 On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, TS Waterman wrote: > > Andre Albsmeier writes: > >On Mon, 01-Feb-1999 at 13:27:45 -0500, John Dowdal wrote: > >> On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Stormy Henderson wrote: > >> > >> > A happy camper (John Dowdal, jdowdal@destiny.erols.com) once wrote... > >> > > There is a dramatic network slowdown on 3.0-stable when usign 100BT > >> > > cards and rc5des at the same time. The rc5des process causes the > [...] > >> This should imply that it doesn't matter whether I use 1 or 31 for > >> priority, because I do not have any other processes with idle priority. > >> > >> Based on the behavior (and not te sources), it appears that the > >> ethernet-card-is-ready interrupt is placed into a queue to be scheduled > >> later, instead of immediately preempting the idprio processes. IT also > >> appears that the interrupt will preempt the kernel idle loop causing > >> better performance if I kill -STOP the rc5des process. The big question > >> is why the system behaves differently when its executing a idprio job and > >> its internal idle loop. > > [some actual empirical TESTS of the problem! wee need more posts like this!] > > >So we get: > > > >no process : 10170 KB/s > >sender running : 185 KB/s > >sender running with idprio 5 : 689 KB/s > >receiver running : 949 KB/s > >receiver running with idprio 5: 991 KB/s > > > > > >What bugs me is that the rates are so bad in the both idprio'ed > >cases. Is there an explanation for that behaviour? Is it possible > >to catch the case when the system is _really_ idle so my process > >runs only then? > > I arrived at the following explanation a while ago, after having > similar behavior (not networking related, though), and poking at > the kernel sources some: > > FreeBSD is not a real-time operationg system, and we shouldn't expect > it to be. The interrupt from the card may be dealt with immediately, > but the process that's dealing with the data isn't. > > The reading/sending process really _is_ placed in the queue behind > whatever is running at the moment, but at a high priority. > Processes are time-sliced, according to the 'hz' kernel variable. > (see the -curent archives for some discussion of upping this -- > 'hz and scheduling' will probably get you on track) > > If your idprio proc is running, and there aren't any interrupts, it > will take 1/hz for it be shut down in favor of whatever is on > the higher priority queues (3 separate queues are kept: "real-time", > normal, and idprio). If you're in the idle_loop, then the highest > thing on the queues is woken up and run. > The idprio proc (remember rc5des is a hog and never needs to wait) > will wake up whenever nothing else is on the queue, and will take 1/hz > to finish if there aren't any interrupts; and will take long enough > to do a context switch out if there are. > > If we're in a gap where the network proc has done it's thing with > the card, especially the sending proc, which might fill the card's > send buffer or whatever, it goes to sleep. The idprio stuff wakes > up, and then it's 1/hz until we get any more action. > > > In a similar vein, maybe even more responsible for this behavior, > the kernel networking code has some time-slice variables set as > multiples of 'hz'. But I haven't dug around in that stuff ever -- > someone who really knows should answer that part of things. > The given values were probably arrived at long before 100Base-T was. > > Try rebuilding a kernel with HZ set 10x higher or so, and run your test > numbers again. > > --ts > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 19:39:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12681 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:39:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nova.eri.net (nova.eri.net [207.90.82.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12676 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 19:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@nova.eri.net) Received: from localhost (richard@localhost) by nova.eri.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13189 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:39:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from richard@nova.eri.net) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Stanaford To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems compiling Kernel.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys.. I suppose this could be a STABLE question because it is where I ended up, still having the same problem. I have sucessfully installed FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE on a Dual P166 machine with 32MB of RAM, an Adaptec 2940U SCSI controller and a 4GIG Seagate Baracuda drive. It ran fresh off of the FTP installation without problem. I have been trying to compile a custom kernel so I can have the dual processor support and I keep getting the output included at the end of this message. Please excuse the length. It doesn't seem to matter if I try to compile an ELF or a.out kernel. I thought I might have something wierd in /usr/src/sys so I ran cvsup and synched with the STABLE branch of the tree. Still, the same output. Does anyone have an idea what the problem could be? Thanks alot, -Richard. cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -aout vers.c loading kernel scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_lock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_acquire' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_getccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_read_capacity' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_runccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_lock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_getccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_synchronize_cache' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_runccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_release_devq' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_release' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_schedule' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_lock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_ioctl' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_read_write' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_polled_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_print' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_synchronize_cache' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_polled_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_print' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_get' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_new' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_create_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_free_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_release' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_alloc' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_invalidate' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_extend_set' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_inquiry_match' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_quirkmatch' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_lock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_schedule' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_read_write' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_schedule' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_read_capacity' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_release_devq' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_release_devq' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_desc' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_key_text' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_print' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_invalidate' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_announce_periph' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_unlock' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_periph' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_error' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_getccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_prevent' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_periph_runccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_release_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_setup_ccb' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_synchronize_cache' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_polled_action' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_scsi_sense_print' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment scsi_da.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_release_devq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_create_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: More undefined symbol _xpt_setup_ccb refs follow aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_async' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_free_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_async' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_free_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_simq_alloc' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sim_alloc' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_simq_free' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_bus_register' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_create_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_bus_deregister' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sim_free' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_action' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sim_alloc' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_bus_register' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sim_free' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_create_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_bus_deregister' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_cam_sim_free' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: More undefined symbol _xpt_action refs follow aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_comp' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_print_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: More undefined symbol _xpt_print_path refs follow aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_devq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_async' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_async' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_free_path' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_simq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_lun_id' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_target_id' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_simq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_target_id' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_lun_id' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_path_sim' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_simq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_devq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_devq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_done' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_freeze_devq' referenced from text segment aic7xxx.o: Undefined symbol `_xpt_async' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vid_configure' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vid_allocate' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vid_get_adapter' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_configure' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_allocate' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_get_keyboard' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_release' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_get_keyboard' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_allocate' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_release' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_get_keyboard' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbdsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_release' referenced from text segment syscons.o: More undefined symbol _kbdsw refs follow syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_allocate' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_kbd_get_keyboard' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vid_get_adapter' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vid_get_adapter' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: Undefined symbol `_vidsw' referenced from text segment syscons.o: More undefined symbol _vidsw refs follow *** Error code 1 Stop. % To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 20:24:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16311 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:24:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16306 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:24:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17301; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:24:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:24:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: Emmanuel Gravel cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Almost 100% successful upgrade 2.2.8->3.1-BETA In-Reply-To: <36C514DB.D361E0B4@psn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Emmanuel Gravel wrote: > > I set up the ldconfig in > > rc.conf and I have also tried command line. Here is what my libraries > > look like: > > > > /usr/lib -> elf > > /usr/lib/aout -> aout > > /usr/local/lib -> aout > > /usr/local/lib/aout -> empty > > /usr/X11R6/lib -> aout > > /usr/X11R6/lib/aout -> empty. > > > > Just did the same upgrade and it works fine. What do the ldconfig > lines in rc.conf look like for you? The libraries are the same for me > (at least the X11 libraries) but a small modification to the ldconfig > lines in rc.conf was enough, now I can run everything. > > Manu > ldconfig is still not working, I did upgrade my X to the elf version and I have spend all day upgrading some of ports, but apparently netscape is only available in aout, and the command ldconfig -aout -m /usr/X11R6/lib/aout still produces the error about there being no /var/run/ld.so.hints. If anyone used roughly the same sources (2 AM Easter, Saturday Feb. 13) and is getting ldconfig -aout to work, please tell me what you did, or should I update again and maybe it will work? I can continue updating packages manually, but so far none of the alternative browsers I have tried (primarily kfm and xemacs/w3) support the https protocal, among other things. Jonathan Fosburgh Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 20:27:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16513 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:27:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16508 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA11244 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:27:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:27:41 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gnome-0.99 Port/package Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thought I would pass along that the gnome-0.99 port and package isn't working. When I try to build the port it dies during the compilation of one of the apps (the terminal emulator I believe it was) and when I use the package I get /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Invalid file format I was also experiencing this with the enlightenmt package although it's port works. Nothing else is giving me this error. Jonathan Fosburgh Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 20:47:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17926 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([208.169.163.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17920 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 20:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.1) id WAA10113; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:47:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:47:28 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: Chris Knight Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.1-BETA Message-ID: <19990213224728.D9807@holly.dyndns.org> Reply-To: phoenix@calldei.com References: <4.1.19990212084613.009d7c70@pop2.ghostwheel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1us In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990212084613.009d7c70@pop2.ghostwheel.com>; from Chris Knight on Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 08:47:34AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Feb 12, 1999, Chris Knight put this into my mailbox: > There are a few things to watch for, especially since 3.x is now using an > elf kernel. On that subject, I'd like to note that I went from 3.0 to 3.1-BETA today, and I also upgraded to an ELF kernel. The boot loader upgrade was successful, and it was a breeze. > > Ruslan Ermilov has written an excellent step-by-step for > upgrading 2.2.8 to 3.x. Here is the URL: > > http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/30upgrade.html > > -ck > > > At 12:59 AM 2/12/99 -0600, Jonathan Fosburgh wrote: > >Having noticed that 3.1 is now is BETA stage, are there currently any > >outstanding isssues for upgrading from 2.2.8-RELEASE? I am currently > >CVSuping the sources at about 2AM Eastern time. Can I do this safely or > >ought I wait a little longer, possibly until 3.1-RELEASE comes out? > > > >Jonathan Fosburgh > >Home Page: > >http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 > >Manager, FreeBSD Webring: > >http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 21:24:52 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20876 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20871 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) From: charon@freethought.org Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990214052451.NKNV12321.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:24:51 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990213212447.00a23a90@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:24:47 -0800 To: Richard Stanaford , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems compiling Kernel.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately, I don't have an answer, but I have the exact same problem (different only as my kernel configuration is) with all the xpt and cam references undefined. I updated my sources with CTM (current up to yesterday, src-3.0020.gz). Not even GENERIC would 'make install' (though _that_ would 'make'). Trying to 'make install' GENERIC references me to http://www.freebsd.org/~peter/elfday.html, which in turn references me to http://www.freebsd.org/~rnordier/boot.txt. I'm hesitant to mess with any of the /boot stuff since my machine triple boots with 2 other MS OS's, which tend to be less lenient about booting than FreeBSD. At 10:39 PM 2/13/99 -0500, Richard Stanaford wrote: > > >Hi guys.. > >I suppose this could be a STABLE question because it is where I ended up, >still having the same problem. I have sucessfully installed FreeBSD >3.0-RELEASE on a Dual P166 machine with 32MB of RAM, an Adaptec 2940U SCSI >controller and a 4GIG Seagate Baracuda drive. It ran fresh off of the FTP >installation without problem. > >I have been trying to compile a custom kernel so I can have the dual >processor support and I keep getting the output included at the end of >this message. Please excuse the length. It doesn't seem to matter if I >try to compile an ELF or a.out kernel. I thought I might have something >wierd in /usr/src/sys so I ran cvsup and synched with the STABLE >branch of the tree. Still, the same output. Does anyone have an idea >what the problem could be? >loading kernel *Many errors snipped* >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "I know a mouse, and he hasn't got a house. I don't know why. I call him Gerald. He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 21:30:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21439 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21433 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:30:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU) Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (jef53313@Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02914 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:30:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:30:32 -0600 (CST) From: Jonathan Fosburgh To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ld.so.hints problem SOLVED Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After some more tweaking I found that ldconfig -aout -f /var/run/ld.so.hints correctly creates the file, aout executables now seem to be working. Jonathan Fosburgh Geotechnician Snyder Oil Corporation Houston, TX Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498 Manager, FreeBSD Webring: http://www.geocities.com/vienna/1498/computer/freebsdring.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 13 22:56:29 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26664 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:56:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles301.castles.com [208.214.167.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26653 for ; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:56:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01236; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199902140652.WAA01236@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Micheal Blackthorne" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:39:37 PST." <000b01be569d$e5e50bc0$c814ea18@blackthorne> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 22:52:03 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > individual that responded was not able to resolve the problem. He in turn > suggested I contact freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG. They in turn were mostly > rude and referred me to this list. The version of FreeBSD that I am trying > to install is: I'll just point out (late, since I'm lagged) that I've attempted to explain to Mister Blackthorne the errors that he's made, to no avail. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message