From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 17 0:11:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (castles509.castles.com [208.214.165.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE514BD7; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02731; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:18:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001170818.AAA02731@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Mike Smith , Andrew Gallatin , FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: current shot at AlphaHW.txt In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:11:03 +0100." <20000115121103.H53766@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:18:22 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 03:56:33PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Notice the above edits about having 2 hoses, 3 pci slots / hose > > > > Note also that the onboard Adaptec controller on the DS20 is disabled > > Can you please tell me which chip it is so that I can include that info? I believe it's an aic7897. I'll check it Monday, assuming I remember. 8) > > when you're running FreeBSD, and can't be used. It'd be nice to see how > > they do that so we could reverse it... > > Who is 'they'? Does the SRM disable the chip or so? It would appear so, or at least it's never enabled. It doesn't show up in PCI configuration space at all, which leads me to believe that it's being explicitly turned off. > > The onboard Adaptec on the dp264 is not bootable, but does work with > > FreeBSD (4.0 and later). > > Do you have any further info on DP264? Sorry, I confused the DP264 and the UP2000. Alpha Processor Inc. (www.alpha-processor.inc) produce the dp264 (looks like a DS20 board) and the UP2000. Unless our DS20 is really a dp264, I can't comment further on it. API have, however, leant us a UP2000, which has an onboard aic7897. This chip is enabled by default, but SRM doesn't support it so you can't boot from it. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 17 12:12:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from crcst349.netaddress.usa.net (crcst349.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BEE514EC2 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:12:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmharris@usa.net) Received: (qmail 18824 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2000 20:12:09 -0000 Received: from nw177.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.77) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2000 20:12:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 27212 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jan 2000 20:12:09 -0000 Message-ID: <20000117201209.27211.qmail@nw177.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.77 by nw177 for [207.239.230.137] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Mon Jan 17 20:12:09 GMT 2000 Date: 17 Jan 00 13:12:09 MST From: To: msmith@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bad Adaptec, No Biscuit Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any way just to disable the controller temporarily? I have an additional NCR controller in there that seems to work fine. If not, where can I get such a kern.flp image? --R > The onboard Adaptec controller on the UP2000 board is funky, and our = > support for it wasn't fixed until around the 7th of January. Earlier = > versions of the drive will die with the panic you're seeing, and there = is = > no workaround apart from replacing the kernel on the kern.flp image. > = ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jan 17 15:51:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1087E1502B; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:51:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01739; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:59:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200001172359.PAA01739@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: rmharris@usa.net Cc: msmith@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bad Adaptec, No Biscuit In-reply-to: Your message of "17 Jan 2000 13:12:09 MST." <20000117201209.27211.qmail@nw177.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:59:08 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No; just install with a snapshot later than 20000107. > Is there any way just to disable the controller temporarily? I have an > additional NCR controller in there that seems to work fine. > = > If not, where can I get such a kern.flp image? > --R > = > > The onboard Adaptec controller on the UP2000 board is funky, and our = > > support for it wasn't fixed until around the 7th of January. Earlier= = > > versions of the drive will die with the panic you're seeing, and ther= e is = > > no workaround apart from replacing the kernel on the kern.flp image. > > = > = > = > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=FF= -- = \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 13:59:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from east.isi.edu (east.isi.edu [38.245.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B2714DFA for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlehman@east.isi.edu) Received: from east.isi.edu (sportster.east.isi.edu [38.245.76.176]) by east.isi.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA09648 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:00:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <388633AF.737E2938@east.isi.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:59:11 -0500 From: Tom Lehman Organization: USC/ISI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have FreeBSD 4.0-20000101-CURRENT installed on a Compaq XP1000 Alpha Workstation. When trying to install netscape navigator from /usr/ports, it fails saying that the port is only for i386. Is there a navigator port for the Alpha? Also, should I expect that Linux emulation to work in under this configuration? I did not see a way to load the Linux KLD object for this distribution. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________________ Tom Lehman University of Southern California 703.812.3736(voice) Information Sciences Institute 703.812.3732(fax) tlehman@isi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 14:16:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54E515084 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000119221626.MSNL1336.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:16:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3886385C.2BF76CC5@home.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:19:08 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org with an error indicating file (install.sh?) missing from /usr/src/tools probably because there's not even a 'tools' directory. I've manually created the 'tools' directory and will ftp the missing file, but are any other files known to be missing?. I used sysinstl to get "all" sourcefiles with what seemed like success. I had a notion to use cvsup but attempts to install from ports/cvsup and ports/cvsup-bin informs me that it doesn't work on Alpha? I could swear that I had installed the binary port to the 4-1131 set... Thanks, Craig -- For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored by a cat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 16:36: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD6614D90 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:36:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000120003607.TKRT1336.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:36:07 -0800 Message-ID: <38865919.B5088AC6@home.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:38:49 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: followup 4.0 snapshot buildworld fail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [FreeBSD 4.0-19991225-CURRENT #0: Sat Dec 25 21:56:34 GMT 1999] cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include -o strfile strfile.o sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -s -o root -g games -m 555 strfile /usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/games /usr/src/tools/install.sh: Can't open /usr/src/tools/install.sh: No such file or directory *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile. *** Error code 1 Doesn't take long to get this far. Curiously (at least to me) fortune works. craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 18:51:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [63.192.202.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB914F9C for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:51:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: from toetag.com (tom@foo.toetag.com [63.192.202.44] (may be forged)) by toetag.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA29753; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:51:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200001200251.SAA29753@toetag.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Craig Burgess Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:19:08 PST." <3886385C.2BF76CC5@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:51:44 -0800 From: "Tom" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:19:08 PST, Craig Burgess writes: >with an error indicating file (install.sh?) missing from /usr/src/tools >probably because there's not even a 'tools' directory. I've manually >created the 'tools' directory and will ftp the missing file, but are any >other files known to be missing?. > This happened to me on a x86 box as well. I didn't report it as a bug because I thought it was something I did. ( deleted /usr/src, /usr/ports , upgrade to current snapshot. ) But it does seem /usr/src/tools is missing from 4.0-current snapshots. Anyway, pulling a copy of /usr/src/tools from another box fixes the install.sh setup routines. No idea if this would effect a virgin install, I was under the impression that tools was a leftover from elf-day conversion - but I've been wrong before :-) -- tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 Spam: the other white meat. Get UnHOOKeD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 18:56:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2F415398 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:56:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000120025622.XTRV1336.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:56:22 -0800 Message-ID: <388679F9.5930BF48@home.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:59:05 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld References: <200001200251.SAA29753@toetag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's a creative solution, but I would be silly to pull it from my Intel/FreeBSD installation with the expectation that it would work and only have the single Alpha... Unless it would work?? Craig Tom wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:19:08 PST, Craig Burgess writes: > >with an error indicating file (install.sh?) missing from /usr/src/tools > >probably because there's not even a 'tools' directory. I've manually > >created the 'tools' directory and will ftp the missing file, but are any > >other files known to be missing?. > > > > This happened to me on a x86 box as well. I didn't report it as a bug because > I thought it was something I did. > > ( deleted /usr/src, /usr/ports , upgrade to current snapshot. ) > > But it does seem /usr/src/tools is missing from 4.0-current snapshots. > > Anyway, pulling a copy of /usr/src/tools from another box fixes the install.sh > setup routines. > > No idea if this would effect a virgin install, I was under the impression > that tools was a leftover from elf-day conversion - but I've been wrong > before :-) > -- > tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 > Spam: the other white meat. > Get UnHOOKeD. -- For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored by a cat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 19: 1:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [63.192.202.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548121519A for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:01:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: from toetag.com (tom@foo.toetag.com [63.192.202.44] (may be forged)) by toetag.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA00795; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:01:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200001200301.TAA00795@toetag.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Craig Burgess Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:59:05 PST." <388679F9.5930BF48@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:01:38 -0800 From: "Tom" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:59:05 PST, Craig Burgess writes: >That's a creative solution, but I would be silly to pull it from my >Intel/FreeBSD installation with the expectation that it would work and >only have the single Alpha... > >Unless it would work?? > Well I pulled it from my alpha over to the x86 box, it's mostly source and scripts anyway. -- tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 Spam: the other white meat. Get UnHOOKeD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 19:25:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AC014D86 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA82218; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:24:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA75496; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:24:11 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tom Lehman Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question Message-ID: <20000119192411.A71849@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <388633AF.737E2938@east.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <388633AF.737E2938@east.isi.edu>; from tlehman@east.isi.edu on Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 04:59:11PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 19, 2000 at 04:59:11PM -0500, Tom Lehman wrote: > When trying to install netscape navigator from /usr/ports, it fails > saying that the port is only for i386. Is there a navigator port for > the Alpha? *WHICH* of the 1000's of Netscape ports?? When was the last cvsup for your /usr/ports? > Also, should I expect that Linux emulation to work in under this > configuration? No. But yes for OSF/1 compatiblity. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 20: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9124614F3B for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000120035857.ZNAE1336.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:58:57 -0800 Message-ID: <388688A4.378533E6@home.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:01:40 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld References: <200001200301.TAA00795@toetag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This was a really good idea, unfortunately I don't have an 'install.sh' file in /usr/src/tools or any of the several subdirs on 3.4-CURRENT/i386 Oh, well -- craig Tom wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:59:05 PST, Craig Burgess writes: > >That's a creative solution, but I would be silly to pull it from my > >Intel/FreeBSD installation with the expectation that it would work and > >only have the single Alpha... > > > >Unless it would work?? > > > > Well I pulled it from my alpha over to the x86 box, it's mostly source and > scripts anyway. > > -- > tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 > Spam: the other white meat. > Get UnHOOKeD. -- For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored by a cat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Jan 19 20:11:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [63.192.202.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FD7151B0 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: from toetag.com (tom@foo.toetag.com [63.192.202.44] (may be forged)) by toetag.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA07125; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:11:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200001200411.UAA07125@toetag.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Craig Burgess Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: 1225 snapshot fails buildworld In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:01:40 PST." <388688A4.378533E6@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:11:21 -0800 From: "Tom" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:01:40 PST, Craig Burgess writes: >This was a really good idea, unfortunately I don't have an 'install.sh' >file in /usr/src/tools or any of the several subdirs on 3.4-CURRENT/i386 > >Oh, well -- http://unhooked.bsdonline.org/~tom/tools.tgz -- tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 Spam: the other white meat. Get UnHOOKeD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 3:46: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from chico.dd.dk (chico.dd.dk [193.88.253.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E55E614D83 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 03:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbl@dk.damgaard.com) Received: by chico.dd.dk (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA25059; Thu, 20 Jan 00 12:45:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 00 12:45:26 +0100 From: bbl@dk.damgaard.com Message-Id: <10001201145.AA25059@chico.dd.dk> Subject: trouble with de0, hubs and ISDN Apparently-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using freebsd 3.4-stable. At home I have installed an Alpha Personal workstation 500au, which connects to a HUB which again connects to an 3com officeconnect to ISDN. de0 jumps up and down all the time, saying somthing like: de0 down, check cable. When the same machine is installed at work, there seems to be no problems. When checking the code in if_de.c, it seems the the driver uses the traffic on the interface to determine wether the interface is up or down. Since the machine at times is the only machine on the net,(the ISDN closes between traffic), the netcard jumps up and down. That makes it very difficult to work over isdn lines. When I want to initiate a connection, it takes a loooooong time to establish. When I have something running on the remote systems, and are waiting for output, the interface just decides that the cable is gone, and stops listening. Are there any way , other than changing the driver, to change that behaviour ? Regards, Bjarne Blichfeldt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 6:12:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gummo.dd.dk (client.dk.damgaard.com [193.88.253.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D61EE14BD8 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 06:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbl@dk.damgaard.com) Received: from castor([172.20.6.3]) (1536 bytes) by gummo.dd.dk via sendmail with P:smtp/R:world/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:07:08 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #3 built 1997-Nov-04) Message-ID: <3886C2A2.69FE@dk.damgaard.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:09:06 +0100 From: Bjarne Blichfeldt Organization: Damgaard International a/s X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.00 9000/847) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble with de0, hubs and ISDN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using freebsd 3.4-stable. At home I have installed an Alpha Personal workstation 500au, which connects to a HUB which again connects to an 3com officeconnect to ISDN. de0 jumps up and down all the time, saying somthing like: de0 down, check cable. When the same machine is installed at work, there seems to be no problems. When checking the code in if_de.c, it seems the the driver uses the traffic on the interface to determine wether the interface is up or down. Since the machine at times is the only machine on the net,(the ISDN closes between traffic), the netcard jumps up and down. That makes it very difficult to work over isdn lines. When I want to initiate a connection, it takes a loooooong time to establish. When I have something running on the remote systems, and are waiting for output, the interface just decides that the cable is gone, and stops listening. Are there any way , other than changing the driver, to change that behaviour ? Regards, Bjarne Blichfeldt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 7:19:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from brak.fuzzfactor.com (temp4.skycache.com [207.239.230.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6E614ECB for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rharris@brak.fuzzfactor.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by brak.fuzzfactor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00469 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Harris To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Quad Intel 21143 Card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone tested with the IntraServer flavor of quad-ethernet card? It is recognized fine by SRM, however does not get recognized by FreeBSD SNAP 010100. All of the ethernet chips say 21143-PD. thanks. -=[ Rob ]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ "He's old enough to know what's right, but young enough not to choose it. He's noble enough to win the world, but weak enough to lose it." --"New World Man" (Rush) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 7:25: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailext02.compaq.com (mailext02.compaq.com [207.18.199.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CCC1503B for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:25:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maurice.marks@compaq.com) Received: by mailext02.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 301469A8E8; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:24:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailint12.im.hou.compaq.com (mailint12.compaq.com [207.18.199.190]) by mailext02.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA990D84; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:24:51 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailint12.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id BA1B24FB01; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:24:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.52]) by mailint12.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846524C901; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:24:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:24:50 -0500 Message-ID: <9996FB0C6AB3D111B9FB0000F81E38A20940A811@lkgexc1.tay.dec.com> From: "Marks, Maurice" To: 'Tom Lehman' , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:24:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm in Compaq. We're packaging up a Netscape kit for Alpha Linux that includes some libraries and a loader from Tru64. And we hope to release that very soon. We will try to do the same thing for FreeBSD. The other option is Mozilla. I know that the latest milestone works on Alpha Linux. /maurice -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lehman [mailto:tlehman@east.isi.edu] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 4:59 PM To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question I have FreeBSD 4.0-20000101-CURRENT installed on a Compaq XP1000 Alpha Workstation. When trying to install netscape navigator from /usr/ports, it fails saying that the port is only for i386. Is there a navigator port for the Alpha? Also, should I expect that Linux emulation to work in under this configuration? I did not see a way to load the Linux KLD object for this distribution. Thanks! _________________________________________________________________________ Tom Lehman University of Southern California 703.812.3736(voice) Information Sciences Institute 703.812.3732(fax) tlehman@isi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 7:33:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from brak.fuzzfactor.com (temp4.skycache.com [207.239.230.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F73F14F8B for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 07:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rharris@brak.fuzzfactor.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by brak.fuzzfactor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00485 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:33:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:33:33 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Harris To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Quad Intel 21143 Card... continued... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also wierd... When I use a 103099-SNAP kernel, it is recognized fine. Was any code changed in the merge? (yes, I tried compiling out dc0 and leaving in de0 in the 010100-SNAP) -=[ Rob ]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ "He's old enough to know what's right, but young enough not to choose it. He's noble enough to win the world, but weak enough to lose it." --"New World Man" (Rush) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Harris To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Quad Intel 21143 Card Has anyone tested with the IntraServer flavor of quad-ethernet card? It is recognized fine by SRM, however does not get recognized by FreeBSD SNAP 010100. All of the ethernet chips say 21143-PD. thanks. -=[ Rob ]=- ___________________________________________________________________________ "He's old enough to know what's right, but young enough not to choose it. He's noble enough to win the world, but weak enough to lose it." --"New World Man" (Rush) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 9:29:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BFB151F2 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:29:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@d60-025.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.25]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA85004; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA08672; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:29:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:29:26 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "'Tom Lehman'" Subject: Re: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question Message-ID: <20000120092926.G71849@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <9996FB0C6AB3D111B9FB0000F81E38A20940A811@lkgexc1.tay.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <9996FB0C6AB3D111B9FB0000F81E38A20940A811@lkgexc1.tay.dec.com>; from Maurice.Marks@compaq.com on Thu, Jan 20, 2000 at 10:24:48AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Lehman [mailto:tlehman@east.isi.edu] > > When trying to install netscape navigator from /usr/ports, it fails > saying that the port is only for i386. Is there a navigator port for > the Alpha? Since Tom has yet to reply to my message so I could disspell this myth with him, I'll do it publicly. We *do* have three Netscape Ports for FreeBSD/Alpha: /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator.us /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator Tom's /usr/ports/www is obviously out of date. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 9:30:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485D314E60 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000120173023.PXPA1336.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com> for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:30:23 -0800 Message-ID: <388746D5.1990CFFE@home.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:33:09 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: It worked! [Was - 1225 snapshot fails buildworld] References: <200001200411.UAA07125@toetag.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I appreciate your help. So much isn't portable between i386/AXP that it surprised me. Again, thanks for the suggestion and the files -- Craig Tom wrote: > > http://unhooked.bsdonline.org/~tom/tools.tgz > > -- > tom@unhooked.net ICQ - 16163541 > Spam: the other white meat. > Get UnHOOKeD. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- For a man to truly understand rejection, he must first be ignored by a cat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Jan 20 9:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from east.isi.edu (east.isi.edu [38.245.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5088115105 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:50:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlehman@east.isi.edu) Received: from east.isi.edu (sportster.east.isi.edu [38.245.76.176]) by east.isi.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14838; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:50:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38874AAB.D0DED896@east.isi.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:49:31 -0500 From: Tom Lehman Organization: USC/ISI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape and Linux Emulation Question References: <9996FB0C6AB3D111B9FB0000F81E38A20940A811@lkgexc1.tay.dec.com> <20000120092926.G71849@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for helping me out. I got the ports from the same location as the distribution I loaded: ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000101-CURRENT/ ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.0-20000101-CURRENT/ports/ports.tgz 8001 Kb Mon Jan 3 12:39:00 2000 Is this incorrect? Tom David O'Brien wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom Lehman [mailto:tlehman@east.isi.edu] > > > > When trying to install netscape navigator from /usr/ports, it fails > > saying that the port is only for i386. Is there a navigator port for > > the Alpha? > > Since Tom has yet to reply to my message so I could disspell this myth > with him, I'll do it publicly. > > We *do* have three Netscape Ports for FreeBSD/Alpha: > > /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator > /usr/ports/www/netscape47-communicator.us > /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator > > Tom's /usr/ports/www is obviously out of date. > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 21 12:36:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5611513B for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:36:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id VAA12181 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:35:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02086 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:27:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:27:18 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: EISA bus on alpha? Message-ID: <20000121212718.A2032@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-OS: FreeBSD yedi.iaf.nl 3.4-STABLE FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Question: /sys/conf/files.alpha and config lead me to believe the EISA bus is not supported on alpha. Where does this leave EISA slot-equipped alpha machines? EISA expansion cards appear out, but what if an ISA card is stuck in an EISA slot? I guess the latter is also a no-go. I wish to make a note about this in the alpha/HARDWARE.TXT -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands - The FreeBSD Project WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jan 21 12:49:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23319154C8 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:49:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03683; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA28928; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:49:16 -0500 (EST) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: EISA bus on alpha? In-Reply-To: <20000121212718.A2032@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <20000121212718.A2032@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14472.50661.495231.63616@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > Question: /sys/conf/files.alpha and config lead me to believe the > EISA bus is not supported on alpha. Where does this leave EISA slot-equipped > alpha machines? EISA expansion cards appear out, but what if an ISA card > is stuck in an EISA slot? I guess the latter is also a no-go. > > I wish to make a note about this in the alpha/HARDWARE.TXT > ISA cards in EISA slots work. I can even listen to music on my AS500 with its (isa) WSS sound card, which hangs off the EISA bus. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message