From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 3: 3:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3005D37B479 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 03:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA87806 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 03:03:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 03:03:25 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha world known broken Message-ID: <20001029030325.A87790@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've broken the Alpha world with my gnu/lib/csu and lib/csu commits. Unfortunately I've had some problems with my Alpha today, but could not really delay the commit as the changes need to make it into 4.2-RELEASE and they need ever minute of testing possible. I believe I've got the Alpha bits working and am starting a `make world' to test. quite sorry, -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 5: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7212737B4CF for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1586 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2000 13:09:17 -0000 Received: from merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.121) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 13:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 18851 invoked by uid 145); 29 Oct 2000 13:09:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 13:09:17 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 14:09:17 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Conrad To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Ralph Schreyer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: Compiled kernel does not work In-Reply-To: <14843.3939.843103.250590@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, well, indeed, the tag in GENERIC says # $FreeBSD: src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC,v 1.97 2000/09/20 17:30:20 wpaul Exp $ seems like current :-) (not intentional) uname -a, however, outputs FreeBSD mach.th.physik.uni-bonn.de 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Sat Oct 28 18:06:33 CEST 2000 admin@mach.th.physik.uni-bonn.de:/usr/src/sys/compile/MACH alpha We got the sources by running /stand/sysinstall -> post installation --> distributions (all sources...) we fetched by ftp from ftp6.de.freebsd.org This is also the place where we installed 411-R from... But we didn't want to do that in the first place because we allready had 4.4.1-R sources: now comes the really strange stuff ---------------------------------- We run i386/FreeBSD-4.1.1-R on our i386s. So we do have 4.1.1-R sources available. So if I do the following (/freebsd/misc is mounted in per NFS from the i386 server): Reboot the machine with boot kernel.GENERIC ll kernel.GENERIC -r-xr-xr-x 1 admin wheel 5797595 Sep 28 02:21 kernel.GENERIC uname -a FreeBSD mach.th.physik.uni-bonn.de 4.1.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Sep 28 00:21:50 GMT 2000 root@axp411.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC alpha cd /freebsd/misc/src/sys/alpha/conf # GENERIC tag is: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/alpha/conf/GENERIC,v 1.71.2.9 2000/09/04 21:04:56 wilko Exp $ ll /usr/sbin/config -r-xr-xr-x 1 admin wheel 52392 Sep 28 01:42 /usr/sbin/config config GENERIC # and get the following: --------------------------------------------- Removing old directory ../../compile/GENERIC: Done. config: line 76: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 77: syntax error config: line 77: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 78: syntax error config: line 105: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 106: syntax error config: line 106: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 107: syntax error config: line 107: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 108: syntax error config: line 109: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 110: syntax error config: line 113: syntax error config: line 115: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 116: syntax error config: line 118: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 119: syntax error config: line 121: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 122: syntax error config: line 123: syntax error config: line 125: devices with zero units are not likely to be correct config: line 126: syntax error config: line 152: syntax error config: line 164: syntax error WARNING: version of config(8) does not match kernel! config version = 500003, version required = 400018 Make sure that /usr/src/usr.sbin/config is in sync with your /usr/src/sys and install a new config binary before trying this again. If running the new config fails check your config file against the GENERIC or LINT config files for changes in config syntax, or option/device naming conventions Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' Kernel build directory is ../../compile/GENERIC ----------------------------------------------- This is why we fetched the srcs :-) (Now it's clear to me that config version 500003 means current - I am sorry for this, but why did sysinstall fetch current sources?) any ideas what is going on? (we have boot1 and loader from 4.1 installed...) I just fetched bin.?? from ftp://ftp6.de.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.1.1-RELEASE/bin/ and extracted usr/sbin/config it is version 500003! regards Jan On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Jan Conrad writes: > > Hi folks, > > > > ok - I think I found out what the problem was, but I don't understand it > > fully... > > > > The config file looked like (taken from GENERIC): > > > > #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints > > #hints "GENERIC.hints" > > This line doesn't appear in any config file in RELENG_4. > You're somehow running -current. If this is intentional, please read > the UPDATING file and you'll see how to deal with hints files. > > However, I have the feeling that you don't want to be running current. > What does the $FreeBSD tag in your makefile say? Where did you get > your sources? > > Drew > -- Physikalisches Institut der Universitaet Bonn Nussallee 12 D-53115 Bonn GERMANY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 6:40:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8799F37B479 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 06:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1875 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2000 14:40:30 -0000 Received: from merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.121) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 14:40:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 19433 invoked by uid 145); 29 Oct 2000 14:40:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Oct 2000 14:40:29 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:40:29 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Conrad To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Ralph Schreyer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compiled kernel does not work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, well - I just checked ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.1.1-RELEASE/src/ seem to be the current sources... # tag of src/Makefile: # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile,v 1.236 2000/09/19 11:15:40 markm Exp $ regards Jan -- Physikalisches Institut der Universitaet Bonn Nussallee 12 D-53115 Bonn GERMANY To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 8:36: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B8637B479; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 08:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22937; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e9TGa3d75422; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:36:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:36:03 -0500 (EST) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Testers please.. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14844.20818.779470.967531@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > - I didn't actually pass the new-bus interrupt handler flags down > into alpha_platform_setup_intr(), so the MPSAFE flag would never > actually be set in the intrhand structures. > - Partly as a result of the above, I didn't enforce exclusiveness > of interrupt vectors for INTR_EXCL interrupts. What would the impact of this be on non-SMP systems, if any? > The patch at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.fast.patch > should fix all this, but I don't have a workign sio to test it on, > so I would appreciate some testing and feedback. Thanks. I'm now running it on my home miata, also w/o using sio, but it doesn't seem any less stable than it was.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 14:28:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (virtual.valuelinx.net [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F40637B4C5 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 14:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8937.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.121]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA18684 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:26:27 GMT Message-ID: <39FCAFB2.1B1B98BD@penix.org> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:16:02 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PC164 sysinstall. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi.. Anyone know why I would get a message like this?? 4.1R fresh install. [root]-pandora# stand >blah.out pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 ra=0x12015 6754 op=ldl pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 ra=0x12015 6754 op=ldl pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 ra=0x12015 6754 op=ldl -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 15:15:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE4537B479 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 15:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13q1fm-0009jP-00; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:15:32 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9TNIJb05122; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:18:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:18:19 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Paul Halliday Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC164 sysinstall. Message-ID: <20001030001819.A5080@freebie.demon.nl> References: <39FCAFB2.1B1B98BD@penix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39FCAFB2.1B1B98BD@penix.org>; from dp@penix.org on Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 06:16:02PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 06:16:02PM -0500, Paul Halliday wrote: > Hi.. > > Anyone know why I would get a message like this?? 4.1R fresh install. > That is sysinstall doing unaligned accesses which the alpha cpu does not really like. Aligned is quite a bit faster. See also 'man uac' if you want to debug it. W/ > [root]-pandora# stand >blah.out > pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 > ra=0x12015 > 6754 op=ldl > pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 > ra=0x12015 > 6754 op=ldl > pid 267 (sysinstall): unaligned access: va=0x12030c9c2 pc=0x120156760 > ra=0x12015 > 6754 op=ldl > > -- > Paul H. > ============================================================================ > Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. > Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. > GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 > Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt > ============================================================================ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 23:29:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D22C737B4C5 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA01104 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:29:40 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ** HEADS UP ** changes to /usr/lib/crt*.o Message-ID: <20001029232940.A1078@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The switch to using a crt[in].o and the GCC crtstuff.c=>crt{begin,end}.o is complete for the Alpha too. Please beat up on this as much as you can. I'm going to MFC it RSN, and want to find any problems [should there be any] before 4.2-RELEASE. thanks, -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 23:33: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199A037B479; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA32636; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:32:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:33:00 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** changes to /usr/lib/crt*.o In-Reply-To: <20001029232940.A1078@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > The switch to using a crt[in].o and the GCC crtstuff.c=>crt{begin,end}.o > is complete for the Alpha too. > > Please beat up on this as much as you can. I'm going to MFC it RSN, and > want to find any problems [should there be any] before 4.2-RELEASE. > > thanks, Are there any UPDATING tricks we need to know or will a buildworld/installworld just do the right thing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Oct 29 23:38: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AFB37B479 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA01242; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:37:36 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** changes to /usr/lib/crt*.o Message-ID: <20001029233735.A1222@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001029232940.A1078@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:33:00PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 11:33:00PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > The switch to using a crt[in].o and the GCC crtstuff.c=>crt{begin,end}.o > > is complete for the Alpha too. > > > > Please beat up on this as much as you can. I'm going to MFC it RSN, and > > want to find any problems [should there be any] before 4.2-RELEASE. > > Are there any UPDATING tricks we need to know or will a > buildworld/installworld just do the right thing? buildworld/installworld should take care of everything. :-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 0:31:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A21137B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00045 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:31:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:31:15 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: minor patchlet for others to try .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If folks have time, could you see whether this somewhat formalistic fixup to isa.c does awful things for you: Index: alpha/isa/isa.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/isa/isa.c,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 isa.c --- alpha/isa/isa.c 2000/10/05 23:09:44 1.22 +++ alpha/isa/isa.c 2000/10/30 08:29:32 @@ -71,6 +71,19 @@ splx(s); } +static void +extern_isa_intr_enable(int vector) +{ + isa_intr_enable((vector - 0x800) >> 4); +} + +static void +extern_isa_intr_disable(int vector) +{ + isa_intr_disable((vector - 0x800) >> 4); +} + + intrmask_t isa_irq_pending(void) { @@ -322,7 +335,7 @@ 0x800 + (irq->r_start << 4), isa_handle_intr, ii, ithread_priority(flags), &ii->ih, &intrcnt[INTRCNT_ISA_IRQ + irq->r_start], - NULL, NULL); + extern_isa_intr_enable, extern_isa_intr_disable); if (error) { free(ii, M_DEVBUF); return error; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 3:41:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2822937B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA06152; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:41:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:41:35 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: minor patchlet for others to try .. Message-ID: <20001030034135.B6106@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:31:15AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:31:15AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > If folks have time, could you see whether this somewhat formalistic > fixup to isa.c does awful things for you: Is this needed by your PC164 by chance? I can't get Beast thru an `fsck'. Just wondering if you know of any problems left with the PC164 and an SMPng kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 8:59:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 596EC37B4C5 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10246 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0000 Received: from pauli.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.122) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 30 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 29648 invoked by uid 146); 30 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Oct 2000 16:59:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:59:42 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Schreyer To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Jan Conrad Subject: Re: Compiled kernel does not work In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Drew, so what would you suggest us to do with the confused sources? Wait for 4.2 release or just take the sources of 4.1.1 release as they are and fix the problems with the *.hints files by hand as we did it. Are more of the sources in 4.1.1 release actually from current or just the ones we stumbled over? best regards, Ralph. ----------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Jan Conrad wrote: > Hi again, > > well - I just checked > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.1.1-RELEASE/src/ > > seem to be the current sources... > > # tag of src/Makefile: > > # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile,v 1.236 2000/09/19 11:15:40 markm Exp $ > > regards > Jan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 9: 2:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BEA37B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:02:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA14152; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.0/8.9.1) id e9UH2gt25639; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:02:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:02:42 -0500 (EST) To: Ralph Schreyer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Jan Conrad Subject: Re: Compiled kernel does not work In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14845.43335.266346.125079@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ralph Schreyer writes: > Hello Drew, > > so what would you suggest us to do with the confused sources? Wait for 4.2 > release or just take the sources of 4.1.1 release as they are and fix the > problems with the *.hints files by hand as we did it. Are more of the > sources in 4.1.1 release actually from current or just the ones we > stumbled over? > > best regards, > > Ralph. > I really have no idea how you got the problatic -current sources in the first place. I don't know if it was a problem with the distribution or if it was a problem with the mirror where you got them, or if it was some sort of typo on your part.. I'd suggest cvsupp'ing to -stable and running that. Or waiting for 4.2-release. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 9:33: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BC837B4C5; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id e9UHWxW13522 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:33:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id e9UHX2f87301; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:33:02 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id e9UHWwv30904; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:32:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:32:57 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: minor patchlet for others to try .. Message-ID: <20001030183257.A30879@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001030034135.B6106@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001030034135.B6106@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:41:35AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:41:35AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:31:15AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > If folks have time, could you see whether this somewhat formalistic > > fixup to isa.c does awful things for you: > > Is this needed by your PC164 by chance? I can't get Beast thru an > `fsck'. Just wondering if you know of any problems left with the PC164 > and an SMPng kernel. I still can't get my PC164 booting with SMPng. It hangs during SCSI device probing same as mentioned weeks ago on this list. The latest source I tried was from 26th October and I hadn't found any promising commits after that. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 9:40:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4066D37B4C5; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02033; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:40:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:40:42 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Bernd Walter Cc: "David O'Brien" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: minor patchlet for others to try .. In-Reply-To: <20001030183257.A30879@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Same for me. This little patchlet really doesn't cover the EB164 PC164 variants, but is mostly for me to see whether it *breaks* other folks. Formally speaking, if I can be so bold to say as much about code I didn't design and probably don't understand, as each interrupt comes in and a thread is scheduled to run but isn't running, there is an attempt to disable the interrupt source in h/w (not at the device but at h/w in the system that allows the transmission of interrupts). PCI interrupts were/are being handled by each alpha's platform PCI code. The isa code wasn't setting up enable/disable vectors. I want to add them and see if breaks people. The semantics should be the same as the PCI stuff- and, haha, even close the x86 code that this design seems to come from. -matt > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 03:41:35AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:31:15AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > If folks have time, could you see whether this somewhat formalistic > > > fixup to isa.c does awful things for you: > > > > Is this needed by your PC164 by chance? I can't get Beast thru an > > `fsck'. Just wondering if you know of any problems left with the PC164 > > and an SMPng kernel. > > I still can't get my PC164 booting with SMPng. > It hangs during SCSI device probing same as mentioned weeks ago on this list. > The latest source I tried was from 26th October and I hadn't found any > promising commits after that. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 10: 7:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB33437B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (ether.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.196]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UI6qf74828; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:06:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14844.20818.779470.967531@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:07:48 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: Testers please.. Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Oct-00 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > - I didn't actually pass the new-bus interrupt handler flags down > > into alpha_platform_setup_intr(), so the MPSAFE flag would never > > actually be set in the intrhand structures. > > - Partly as a result of the above, I didn't enforce exclusiveness > > of interrupt vectors for INTR_EXCL interrupts. > > What would the impact of this be on non-SMP systems, if any? Fast interrupts (such as sio) should have a much smaller latency as they are now run directly rather than waiting until their thread is scheduled to run. > > The patch at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.fast.patch > > should fix all this, but I don't have a workign sio to test it on, > > so I would appreciate some testing and feedback. Thanks. > > I'm now running it on my home miata, also w/o using sio, but it > doesn't seem any less stable than it was.. Ok... > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 13: 8:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9610537B4D7; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (ether.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.196]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9UL7Rf81062; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: minor patchlet for others to try .. Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, "David O'Brien" , Bernd Walter Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-Oct-00 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Same for me. This little patchlet really doesn't cover the EB164 PC164 > variants, but is mostly for me to see whether it *breaks* other folks. > > Formally speaking, if I can be so bold to say as much about code I didn't > design and probably don't understand, as each interrupt comes in and a thread > is scheduled to run but isn't running, there is an attempt to disable the > interrupt source in h/w (not at the device but at h/w in the system that > allows the transmission of interrupts). PCI interrupts were/are being handled > by each alpha's platform PCI code. > > The isa code wasn't setting up enable/disable vectors. I want to add them and > see if breaks people. The semantics should be the same as the PCI stuff- and, > haha, even close the x86 code that this design seems to come from. Grrrr. So ISA interrupts are level-triggered on the 164? Ugh.. > -matt -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 14: 8:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE15137B479; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:08:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03324; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:08:34 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:08:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, "David O'Brien" , Bernd Walter Subject: Re: minor patchlet for others to try .. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 30-Oct-00 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Same for me. This little patchlet really doesn't cover the EB164 PC164 > > variants, but is mostly for me to see whether it *breaks* other folks. > > > > Formally speaking, if I can be so bold to say as much about code I didn't > > design and probably don't understand, as each interrupt comes in and a thread > > is scheduled to run but isn't running, there is an attempt to disable the > > interrupt source in h/w (not at the device but at h/w in the system that > > allows the transmission of interrupts). PCI interrupts were/are being handled > > by each alpha's platform PCI code. > > > > The isa code wasn't setting up enable/disable vectors. I want to add them and > > see if breaks people. The semantics should be the same as the PCI stuff- and, > > haha, even close the x86 code that this design seems to come from. > > Grrrr. So ISA interrupts are level-triggered on the 164? Ugh.. No. But don't assume that all platforms get it right. Let me give you a reverse example. The PCI implementation on TurboLaser (DWLPX, at the end of an I/O hose from a KTIA or a KTHA) breaks the notion of PCI being level-sensitive. The reason this is so is that events travel as packets up and down the hose- not as signal levels. Therefore, you can dismiss an interrupt (you think) for a PCI card, only to get a later 'spurious' interrupt. The point I've been groping toward is that the base design of this MP scheme is making some fairly serious assumptions about h/w capabilities. And even within the framework of the alpha implementation of that design, coding conservatively and allowing for enable/disable on what should nominally be an edge triggered interrupt, is not a bad thing to do. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 14:13:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED7237B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15031 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:13:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:13:36 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Heads up: Problems with the new start-up files Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With the new crti/crtbegin/crtend/crtn stuff I am seeing problems with some components. Both cc1plus and gdb get segmentation violations immediately on invocation. Note that this did not show up in my make buildworld. That completed fine, but now these two components (at least) are hosed. A working cc1plus is needed early in the buildworld process to make gperf, so this could be a bit difficult to recover from. I'd advise folks to avoid making world on the alpha until David has figured out what's wrong and committed the fixes. He's aware of the problem and is working on it, so please don't nag him. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 16:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8697C37B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:21:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA63015 for alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:21:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:21:50 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heads up: Problems with the new start-up files Message-ID: <20001030162150.A62959@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jdp@polstra.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:13:36PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:13:36PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > I'd advise folks to avoid making world on the alpha until David has > figured out what's wrong and committed the fixes. He's aware of the > problem and is working on it, so please don't nag him. I've got a fix now (grrr) there are alternate crt*.asm files for the Alpha hidden down in a GCC subdirectory. So much for the nice all-C solution. Anyway, here is a patch I'm probably going to to with. Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/lib/csu/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/10/28 21:26:46 1.1 +++ Makefile 2000/10/31 00:14:08 @@ -1,9 +1,18 @@ # $FreeBSD: src/gnu/lib/csu/Makefile,v 1.1 2000/10/28 21:26:46 obrien Exp $ GCCDIR= ${.CURDIR}/../../../contrib/gcc.295 -.PATH: ${GCCDIR} +TARGET_ARCH?= ${MACHINE_ARCH} + +.if ${TARGET_ARCH} == "alpha" +.PATH: ${GCCDIR}/config/alpha +SRCS= crtbegin.asm crtend.asm +UGLYHACK= -x assembler +.else +.PATH: ${GCCDIR} SRCS= crtstuff.c tm.h +.endif + OBJS= crtbegin.o crtend.o SOBJS= crtbegin.So crtend.So CFLAGS+= -I${GCCDIR}/config -I. -DIN_GCC \ @@ -18,22 +27,29 @@ CRTS_CFLAGS= -DCRTSTUFFS_O ${PICFLAG} all: ${OBJS} ${SOBJS} + +.if ${TARGET_ARCH} == "alpha" +crtbegin.o crtbegin.So: crtbegin.asm +crtend.o crtend.So: crtend.asm +.else +crtbegin.o crtbegin.So crtend.o crtend.So: crtstuff.c tm.h +.endif -crtbegin.o: crtstuff.c tm.h +crtbegin.o: ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -g0 -DCRT_BEGIN \ - -c -o ${.TARGET} ${GCCDIR}/crtstuff.c + -c -o ${.TARGET} ${UGLYHACK} ${.ALLSRC:N*.h} -crtbegin.So: crtstuff.c tm.h +crtbegin.So: ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -g0 -DCRT_BEGIN ${CRTS_CFLAGS} \ - -c -o ${.TARGET} ${GCCDIR}/crtstuff.c + -c -o ${.TARGET} ${UGLYHACK} ${.ALLSRC:N*.h} -crtend.o: crtstuff.c tm.h +crtend.o: ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -g0 -DCRT_END \ - -c -o ${.TARGET} ${GCCDIR}/crtstuff.c + -c -o ${.TARGET} ${UGLYHACK} ${.ALLSRC:N*.h} -crtend.So: crtstuff.c tm.h +crtend.So: ${CC} ${CFLAGS} -g0 -DCRT_END ${CRTS_CFLAGS} \ - -c -o ${.TARGET} ${GCCDIR}/crtstuff.c + -c -o ${.TARGET} ${UGLYHACK} ${.ALLSRC:N*.h} # KEEP THIS IN SYNC with src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/Makefile !! tm.h: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Oct 30 17: 9:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CCF37B479 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA63407 for alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:09:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 17:09:50 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Heads up: Problems with the new start-up files Message-ID: <20001030170950.A63366@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jdp@polstra.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:13:36PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 02:13:36PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > With the new crti/crtbegin/crtend/crtn stuff I am seeing problems with > some components. Just committed rev 1.2 (and 1.1.2.3) of src/gnu/lib/csu/Makefile. World is believed to be safe again. Please let me know ASAP of any new problems. Enjoy! -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 2:59:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D62637B479 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16011 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2000 10:59:23 -0000 Received: from merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.121) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 10:59:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 23783 invoked by uid 145); 31 Oct 2000 10:59:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 10:59:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:59:23 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Conrad To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Ralph Schreyer , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is alpha/4.1.1-R a 5-CURRENT snapshot? In-Reply-To: <14845.43335.266346.125079@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well :-) it seems that alpha/4.1.1-R is a 5-CURRENT snapshot (on ftp.freebsd.org) - at least partly! We checked the ssys.?? distribution and sbase.?? - both are current sources! /usr/sbin/config and the kernel are definitively current! and we just found this in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.1.1-RELEASE/README.TXT -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- FreeBSD 5.0 --- SNAPSHOT Version , , ----------------------------------------- /( )` \ \___ / | This is a binary snapshot of 5.0-current, the /- _ `-/ ' (HEAD) branch which is currently moving towards (/\/ \ \ /\ the release of 5.0. / / | ` \ .... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- However, the system, once installed, calls itself 4.1.1-RELEASE :-) How about writing an erratum to the release? regards Ralph & Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 6:33:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8A037B479 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1UPMC-MSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: Help with first Alpha!!! Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:33:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C04347.6D8635A8" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04347.6D8635A8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I have installed on 5 or more PC and Laptops and now I attempting my first Alpha, but first I have a huge problem. I can't seem to get the motherboard to boot. I have an Digital AXPpci33 motherboard with a 166MHz 21066 chip. All documentation I have states that the board is only know to work with 10 video cards which are.... #9 GXE64 ATI MAch 64 CX Diamond Stealth 64 Digital PCXAG-AL MicroCrystal 10SD VGA or 32S VGA TGA 8 PLANE Diamond Stealth 24 ISA 1 MB I have tried the following ... Diamond Stealth 64 2001 Diamond SpeedStar 64 ATI Mach 8 Cirrus Logic 1MB ad 2 unknown 1 MB cards. Nothing works or seems to....Does anyone have this board functioning or have some place for me to go to find info about it. Hell I had the Alpha 4.1 CD sitting hear waiting for 3 weeks now waiting for the damn board to boot! PLEASE HELP.... Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially children." - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04347.6D8635A8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help with first Alpha!!!

Hi,

I have installed on 5 or more PC and = Laptops and now I attempting my first Alpha, but first I have a huge = problem. I can't seem to get the motherboard to boot.

I have an Digital AXPpci33 motherboard = with a 166MHz 21066 chip.
All documentation I have states that = the board is only know to work with 10 video cards which are....

#9 GXE64
ATI MAch 64 CX
Diamond Stealth 64
Digital PCXAG-AL
MicroCrystal 10SD VGA or 32S = VGA
TGA 8 PLANE
Diamond Stealth 24 ISA 1 MB


I have tried the following ...
        Diamond Stealth 64 2001
        Diamond SpeedStar 64
        ATI Mach 8
        Cirrus Logic 1MB
        ad 2 unknown 1 MB cards.

Nothing works or seems to....Does = anyone have this board functioning or have some place for me to go to = find info about it. Hell I had the Alpha 4.1 CD sitting hear waiting = for 3 weeks now waiting for the damn board to boot! PLEASE = HELP....

Roderick P. = Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com



"There are many things that = you're not supposed to eat, especially children."

        - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality



------_=_NextPart_001_01C04347.6D8635A8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 6:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB3637B4C5 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JVZQBKK8MY000VUU@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:40:06 +0100 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:40:03 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:40:03 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! To: "'Person, Roderick'" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7988@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Roderick, I have the same board. It takes ages before it gives off signs of life after powerup. Make sure that you leave it on for a few _minutes_ before assuming it's dead. Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some cache. Mine didn't boot without the cache (or I did not wait long enough, of course) Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 6:49:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3428737B4CF for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:49:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1UPMC-MSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'Koster, K.J.'" , "Person, Roderick" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:49:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C04349.A8C03EBE" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04349.A8C03EBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you. I almost definite the SIMMS are ok, but I have not installed cache yet at all yet. I was a few chip short of a full load and wanted to wait. you had no problems with video cards though. Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially children." - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality -----Original Message----- From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com] Sent: October 31, 2000 9:40 AM To: 'Person, Roderick' Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! Dear Roderick, I have the same board. It takes ages before it gives off signs of life after powerup. Make sure that you leave it on for a few _minutes_ before assuming it's dead. Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some cache. Mine didn't boot without the cache (or I did not wait long enough, of course) Kees Jan ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C04349.A8C03EBE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Help with first Alpha!!!

Thank you. I almost definite the SIMMS are ok, but I = have not installed cache yet at all yet. I was a few chip short of a = full load and wanted to wait.

you had no problems with video cards though.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com



"There are many things that you're not supposed = to eat, especially
children."

        - Mary = Margaret McBride, radio personality




-----Original Message-----
From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com]=
Sent: October 31, 2000 9:40 AM
To: 'Person, Roderick'
Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD'
Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!!


Dear Roderick,

I have the same board. It takes ages before it gives = off signs of life after
powerup. Make sure that you leave it on for a few = _minutes_ before assuming
it's dead.

Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some cache. Mine = didn't boot without
the cache (or I did not wait long enough, of = course)

    Kees Jan

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D
 You are only young once,
       but you can = stay immature all your life.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C04349.A8C03EBE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 6:53:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7450C37B4CF for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JVZQS78VEI000VUU@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:53:29 +0100 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:53:29 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:53:28 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! To: "'Person, Roderick'" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D798C@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Thank you. I almost definite the SIMMS are ok, but I have not > installed cache yet at all yet. I was a few chip short of a full > load and wanted to wait. > I've never seen it run without cache. I tried, but it stayed dead, IIRC. > > you had no problems with video cards though. > No. Just drop in a dented trident (tridented, haha, oh, I'm so funny) ISA board and boot. Kees Jan PS. Please don't use HTML e-mail. ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 6:57: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de [131.220.161.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30A6A37B4FE for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18875 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2000 14:56:58 -0000 Received: from merlin.th.physik.uni-bonn.de (131.220.161.121) by dirac.th.physik.uni-bonn.de with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 14:56:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 26962 invoked by uid 146); 31 Oct 2000 14:56:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 2000 14:56:58 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:56:58 +0100 (CET) From: Ralph Schreyer To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: Re: Help with first Alpha!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Roderick, do you get any kind of error messages? If, which kind of messages? Do you have a terminal available? Perhaps you can get further by removing all graphics cards and connecting the terminal to your board. Regards, Ralph. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Person, Roderick wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed on 5 or more PC and Laptops and now I attempting my first > Alpha, but first I have a huge problem. I can't seem to get the motherboard > to boot. > > I have an Digital AXPpci33 motherboard with a 166MHz 21066 chip. > All documentation I have states that the board is only know to work with 10 > video cards which are.... > > #9 GXE64 > ATI MAch 64 CX > Diamond Stealth 64 > Digital PCXAG-AL > MicroCrystal 10SD VGA or 32S VGA > TGA 8 PLANE > Diamond Stealth 24 ISA 1 MB > > > I have tried the following ... > Diamond Stealth 64 2001 > Diamond SpeedStar 64 > ATI Mach 8 > Cirrus Logic 1MB > ad 2 unknown 1 MB cards. > > Nothing works or seems to....Does anyone have this board functioning or have > some place for me to go to find info about it. Hell I had the Alpha 4.1 CD > sitting hear waiting for 3 weeks now waiting for the damn board to boot! > PLEASE HELP.... > > Roderick P. Person > Programmer II > Crystal Administrator > personrp@ccbh.com > > > > "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially > children." > > - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 7: 0:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D287F37B657 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 07:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1UPMC-MSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: "'Koster, K.J.'" , "Person, Roderick" Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:59:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0434B.29310CE4" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0434B.29310CE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >(tridented, haha, oh, I'm so funny) that is pretty funny! >PS. Please don't use HTML e-mail. Sorry, I'm at work using Outlook and did know. I believe it is off now. Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially children." - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality -----Original Message----- From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com] Sent: October 31, 2000 9:53 AM To: 'Person, Roderick' Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! > > Thank you. I almost definite the SIMMS are ok, but I have not > installed cache yet at all yet. I was a few chip short of a full > load and wanted to wait. > I've never seen it run without cache. I tried, but it stayed dead, IIRC. > > you had no problems with video cards though. > No. Just drop in a dented trident (tridented, haha, oh, I'm so funny) ISA board and boot. Kees Jan PS. Please don't use HTML e-mail. ================================================ You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0434B.29310CE4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Help with first Alpha!!!

>(tridented, haha, oh, I'm so funny)
that is pretty funny!

>PS. Please don't use HTML e-mail.

Sorry, I'm at work using Outlook and did know. I believe it is off now.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com



"There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially
children."

        - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality




-----Original Message-----
From: Koster, K.J. [mailto:K.J.Koster@kpn.com]
Sent: October 31, 2000 9:53 AM
To: 'Person, Roderick'
Cc: 'Alpha FreeBSD'
Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!!


>
> Thank you. I almost definite the SIMMS are ok, but I have not
> installed cache yet at all yet. I was a few chip short of a full
> load and wanted to wait.
>
I've never seen it run without cache. I tried, but it stayed dead, IIRC.

>
> you had no problems with video cards though.
>
No. Just drop in a dented trident (tridented, haha, oh, I'm so funny) ISA
board and boot.

    Kees Jan

PS. Please don't use HTML e-mail.

================================================
 You are only young once,
       but you can stay immature all your life.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0434B.29310CE4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 12:39:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E95537B4CF for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13qiBY-00001O-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:39:08 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9VKgGp02621; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:42:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:42:16 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'Person, Roderick'" , "'Alpha FreeBSD'" Subject: Re: Help with first Alpha!!! Message-ID: <20001031214216.E435@freebie.demon.nl> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7988@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7988@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > Dear Roderick, > > I have the same board. It takes ages before it gives off signs of life after > powerup. Make sure that you leave it on for a few _minutes_ before assuming > it's dead. > > Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some cache. Mine didn't boot without > the cache (or I did not wait long enough, of course) 0Mb cache is supposed to be a valid config. I no longer have my NoName so I cannot try. While I had it here, I have run it with multiple different VGA cards. Varying from Stealth64 to ISA ET4000 boards, and Mach64 PCI. All worked for me. What is the exact problem you are seeing? Does the NoName work with a serial console? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 12:42:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8963D37B4CF for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1UPMC-MSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Wilko Bulte' , "Koster, K.J." Cc: "Person, Roderick" , 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: RE: Help with first Alpha!!! Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 15:41:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0437A.F4EABA0E" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0437A.F4EABA0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I get nothing on the monitor except a 1/2 inch white line at the bottom of the screen. The cards all work in my intel machine so it's not the cards. I haven't tried the serial console - actually I'm not sure on how to do that. Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator personrp@ccbh.com "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially children." - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.demon.nl] > Sent: October 31, 2000 3:42 PM > To: Koster, K.J. > Cc: 'Person, Roderick'; 'Alpha FreeBSD' > Subject: Re: Help with first Alpha!!! > > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > Dear Roderick, > > > > I have the same board. It takes ages before it gives off > signs of life after > > powerup. Make sure that you leave it on for a few _minutes_ > before assuming > > it's dead. > > > > Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some cache. Mine > didn't boot without > > the cache (or I did not wait long enough, of course) > > 0Mb cache is supposed to be a valid config. I no longer have my NoName > so I cannot try. > > While I had it here, I have run it with multiple different VGA cards. > Varying from Stealth64 to ISA ET4000 boards, and Mach64 PCI. > All worked for > me. What is the exact problem you are seeing? Does the NoName > work with a > serial console? > > -- > Wilko Bulte Arnhem, > the Netherlands > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0437A.F4EABA0E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Help with first Alpha!!!

I get nothing on the monitor except a 1/2 inch white = line at the bottom of the screen. The cards all work in my intel = machine so it's not the cards. I haven't tried the serial console - = actually I'm not sure on how to do that.

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
personrp@ccbh.com



"There are many things that you're not supposed = to eat, especially
children."

        - Mary = Margaret McBride, radio personality




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.demon.nl]
> Sent: October 31, 2000 3:42 PM
> To: Koster, K.J.
> Cc: 'Person, Roderick'; 'Alpha FreeBSD'
> Subject: Re: Help with first Alpha!!!
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:40:03PM +0100, = Koster, K.J. wrote:
> > Dear Roderick,
> >
> > I have the same board. It takes ages = before it gives off
> signs of life after
> > powerup. Make sure that you leave it on = for a few _minutes_
> before assuming
> > it's dead.
> >
> > Check that you have 36-bit SIMMs and some = cache. Mine
> didn't boot without
> > the cache (or I did not wait long enough, = of course)
>
> 0Mb cache is supposed to be a valid config. I = no longer have my NoName
> so I cannot try.
>
> While I had it here, I have run it with = multiple different VGA cards.
> Varying from Stealth64 to ISA ET4000 boards, = and Mach64 PCI.
> All worked for
> me. What is the exact problem you are seeing? = Does the NoName
> work with a
> serial console?
>
> --
> Wilko Bulte    =        =         =         =         =         Arnhem,
> the Netherlands
> wilko@freebsd.org     http://www.freebsd.org  =        
http://www.nlfug.nl

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0437A.F4EABA0E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Oct 31 12:49:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EE337B479 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13qiLH-0000DA-00; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:49:11 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e9VKqJD02782; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:52:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:52:19 +0100 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "Koster, K.J." , "'Alpha FreeBSD'" Subject: Re: Help with first Alpha!!! Message-ID: <20001031215219.A2745@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from personrp@ccbh.com on Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:41:58PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:41:58PM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > I get nothing on the monitor except a 1/2 inch white line at the bottom of > the screen. The cards all work in my intel machine so it's not the cards. I > haven't tried the serial console - actually I'm not sure on how to do that. Leave keyboard disconnected and VGA card out. Connect serial port #1 at 9600N81. The SRM should now talk to you via the serial port. See also the NoName OEM guide at ftp://www.tcja.nl/pub/wilko Wilko -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 9: 9: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0E337B4C5; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001101170902.TBEJ2350.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.net>; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:09:02 -0800 Message-ID: <3A004EC5.63EF3F64@home.net> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:11:33 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: David O'Brien Subject: Re: Of mice, XFree86, & Netscape References: <39F21E9D.BB4968FC@home.net> <14834.64948.277239.994151@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <39F3232A.C73A4F35@home.net> <20001022154819.E4742@dragon.nuxi.com> <39F79202.2A315F40@home.net> <20001026004317.B67073@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: [stuff trimmed] > > netscape47-communicator > > netscape47-navigator > > Either of these is what you want to install. > > > ========================================== > > > > Script started on Mon Oct 23 14:18:26 2000 > > Felix# make install > > > > >> communicator-v475-us.alpha-dec-osf4.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in [more trimmed] > > ===> Registering installation for netscape-communicator-4.75 > > This is good. You got Netscape Communicator properly installed. > > > I removed the TRU64/v4 version and deinstalled the one installed from > > ports, then reinstalled the port. It still works only with IP numbers. > > Does running ``nslookup'' work as expected? Yes - at the console and in a terminal window in X nslookup works. > > Exiting Navigator (launched from a term window in X/KDE) leaves this > > message: > > > > KCharset: Wrong charset! > > > > Warning: Cannot convert string > > "-*-Menu-Medium-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO8859-1" to type FontStruct > > I always get this too. > > > ================================ > > Installing XFree86 v4 appears not to be a viable option: > > I still use the XFree86 3.3.6 server on my Alphas. You might want to > give it a shot. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/XF86336.alpha Actually, 3.3.6 was my only choice - 4.x consistently went in the toilet. FWIW, I also discovered that Java is broken as far as Netscape is concerned. Visiting www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=1 should set up the browser to run a Java applet (speed test) but Netscape 4.75 on the Alpha says it cannot (so something) with the background color and fails to load the applet. Since the Alpha is primarily sitting here as an educational tool for me, serving a web page and running natd, it's not really critical that any of the other stuff works, but it seems to be a waste of resources ... > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 10:12:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C800737B4E5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001101181218.NAFH14736.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.net>; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:12:18 -0800 Message-ID: <3A005DA7.1CA6CE4@home.net> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:15:03 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Of mice, XFree86, & Netscape References: <39F21E9D.BB4968FC@home.net> <14834.64948.277239.994151@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <39F3232A.C73A4F35@home.net> <14835.37567.988247.30293@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Craig Burgess writes: [snipped] > > The whole and complete point to the exercise was to see if the 500 MHz > > Alpha could handle an inbound webcam stream better than a 300MHz > > Celeron and so far the answer is "nope." (At 300MHz the PC easily > > became CPU-bound but overclocking the celery to 450+ allows decent > > webcam framerate without choking. On the Alpha one live webcam video > > at 12fps drew 97% processor time said TOP.) > > Probably a lot of it is going to dealing with XF86, which due to a > sub-optimal compiler, sucks pretty badly. > > Sigh. Exploring for the Alpha with FreeBSD suggests that there is no alternative. I'd love to be wrong. craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 10:32:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2F537B4C5; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27502; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA1IWb105479; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:32:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:32:37 -0500 (EST) To: Craig Burgess Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Of mice, XFree86, & Netscape In-Reply-To: <3A004EC5.63EF3F64@home.net> References: <39F21E9D.BB4968FC@home.net> <14834.64948.277239.994151@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <39F3232A.C73A4F35@home.net> <20001022154819.E4742@dragon.nuxi.com> <39F79202.2A315F40@home.net> <20001026004317.B67073@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A004EC5.63EF3F64@home.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14848.23510.504195.242024@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > > FWIW, I also discovered that Java is broken as far as Netscape is > concerned. Visiting www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=1 should set up the > browser to run a Java applet (speed test) but Netscape 4.75 on the > Alpha says it cannot (so something) with the background color and > fails to load the applet. Hrmph. It works just fine for me: Test running......... ** Speed 655(down)/26(up) kbps ** (At least 13 times faster than a 56k modem) Finish. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 11: 4:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B7937B4D7; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001101190439.WQRI2350.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.net>; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:04:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3A0069E0.1B735187@home.net> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 11:07:12 -0800 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, David O'Brien Subject: Re: Of mice, XFree86, & Netscape References: <39F21E9D.BB4968FC@home.net> <14834.64948.277239.994151@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <39F3232A.C73A4F35@home.net> <20001022154819.E4742@dragon.nuxi.com> <39F79202.2A315F40@home.net> <20001026004317.B67073@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A004EC5.63EF3F64@home.net> <14848.23510.504195.242024@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Craig Burgess writes: > > > > FWIW, I also discovered that Java is broken as far as Netscape is > > concerned. Visiting www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=1 should set up the > > browser to run a Java applet (speed test) but Netscape 4.75 on the > > Alpha says it cannot (so something) with the background color and > > fails to load the applet. > > Hrmph. It works just fine for me: > > Test running......... > ** Speed 655(down)/26(up) kbps ** > (At least 13 times faster than a 56k modem) > Finish. Good! I'm pleased that you tried it and that it worked; it tells me that I've messed up something or it **would** work. Sadly, I lack the skills to figure out the knot so my solution would be the (unwelcome) option of starting from scratch. (And my cablemodem speed has plummeted in the last couple of days -- from >2Mb/sec to ~200kb/sec download.) I'll have to decide whether it's worth it... thanks, craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 11:32:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D94D37B4E5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21142; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:32:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: porting linprocfs From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 01 Nov 2000 20:32:36 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to have linprocfs work on the Alpha - anybody willing to help me make that happen? I can do most of the hacking myself, but I need help testing and debugging as I don't have access to an Alpha box. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 12:11:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B19337B479 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA43216; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:11:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:11:43 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: porting linprocfs Message-ID: <20001101121143.A43188@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from des@ofug.org on Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 08:32:36PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 08:32:36PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > I'd like to have linprocfs work on the Alpha - anybody willing to help > me make that happen? I can do most of the hacking myself, but I need > help testing and debugging as I don't have access to an Alpha box. I've made a preliminary patch set to at least make it compile. I'll try to dig it up. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 12:17:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A237B4C5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21426; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:17:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: porting linprocfs References: <20001101121143.A43188@dragon.nuxi.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 01 Nov 2000 21:17:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:11:43 -0800" Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "David O'Brien" writes: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 08:32:36PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > I'd like to have linprocfs work on the Alpha - anybody willing to help > > me make that happen? I can do most of the hacking myself, but I need > > help testing and debugging as I don't have access to an Alpha box. > I've made a preliminary patch set to at least make it compile. I'll try > to dig it up. Thanks! My initial statement was inaccurate, BTW: I can *build* linprocfs on an Alpha box (on beast), but I have nowhere to test it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 13: 3:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488A037B4C5 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01659; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA1L3N605632; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:23 -0500 (EST) To: Craig Burgess Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Of mice, XFree86, & Netscape In-Reply-To: <3A0069E0.1B735187@home.net> References: <39F21E9D.BB4968FC@home.net> <14834.64948.277239.994151@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <39F3232A.C73A4F35@home.net> <20001022154819.E4742@dragon.nuxi.com> <39F79202.2A315F40@home.net> <20001026004317.B67073@dragon.nuxi.com> <3A004EC5.63EF3F64@home.net> <14848.23510.504195.242024@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3A0069E0.1B735187@home.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14848.33976.346332.732488@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Craig Burgess writes: > > > > > > FWIW, I also discovered that Java is broken as far as Netscape is > > > concerned. Visiting www.dslreports.com/stest?loc=1 should set up the > > > browser to run a Java applet (speed test) but Netscape 4.75 on the > > > Alpha says it cannot (so something) with the background color and > > > fails to load the applet. > > > > Hrmph. It works just fine for me: > > > > Test running......... > > ** Speed 655(down)/26(up) kbps ** > > (At least 13 times faster than a 56k modem) > > Finish. > > Good! I'm pleased that you tried it and that it worked; it tells me > that I've messed up something or it **would** work. Sadly, I lack the My only thought is that java is upset at your X display's colour depth. I'm running at 16bpp. I'm also running XF86 4.0.1 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 16:13: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F2737B75B; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:12:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05445; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA20Cdm05907; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:12:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:12:39 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: linux emulation X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14848.44982.354268.277746@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The first bits of linux emulation for alpha has been committed to -current, (largely thanks to the heroic efforts of David O'Brien). The emulation is currently good enough to support running Applixware, the compaq C compiler, and a few other random things. Instructions for installing and running the Compaq C compiler are available from http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions. The reason to care about the compaq compilers is that they generate much better code than gcc. Something like a 4x speedup is not unheard of with floating point intensive apps. This will (hopefully) be coming to -stable fairly soon.. Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 16:14:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494137B7D3 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13647 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:14:16 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:14:16 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: platform news: TurboLaser status in -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As we struggle along to fix things, I'll post periodic missives as to what I'm seeing... Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Setting atkbd 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting atkbd 0 irq to 1 (int) Setting atkbdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting atkbdc 0 port to 96 (int) Setting fd 0 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 0 drive to 0 (int) Setting fdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting fdc 0 drq to 2 (int) Setting fdc 0 irq to 6 (int) Setting fdc 0 port to 1008 (int) Setting mcclock 0 at to isa (string) Setting mcclock 0 port to 112 (int) Setting ppc 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 irq to 7 (int) Setting psm 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting psm 0 irq to 12 (int) Setting sc 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 irq to 4 (int) Setting sio 0 port to 1016 (int) Setting sio 1 at to isa (string) Setting sio 1 flags to 80 (int) Setting sio 1 irq to 3 (int) Setting sio 1 port to 760 (int) Setting vga 0 at to isa (string) FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Nov 1 22:34:02 PST 2000 mjacob@carl.nas.nasa.gov:/space/sys/compile/STRIPPED AlphaServer 8400 AlphaServer 8200 5/440, 437MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x10000500020116 real memory = 2144698368 (2094432K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00734000 - 0x7ff4ffff, 2139209728 bytes (261134 pages) avail memory = 2084511744 (2035656K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000714000. Preloaded elf module "ispfw.ko" at 0xfffffc00007140c0. null: random: mem: tlsb0: tlsbcpu0: at tlsb0 node 4 gbus0 on tlsbcpu0 zsc0: on gbus0 offset 0x10000000 zs0 on zsc0 channel A WARNING: Driver mistake: repeat make_dev("zs0") zs1 on zsc0 channel B WARNING: Driver mistake: repeat make_dev("zs0") mcclock0: on gbus0 offset 0x20000000 Calibrating clock(s) ... fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x0 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc000054cf80 ra = 0xfffffc000054cf2c curproc = 0xfffffc000063af88 pid = 0, comm = swapper Stopped at set_timer_freq+0x80: ldq t0,0(a0) <0x0> db> t set_timer_freq() at set_timer_freq+0x80 calibrate_clocks() at calibrate_clocks+0x6c clockattach() at clockattach+0x5c mcclock_attach() at mcclock_attach+0x88 mcclock_tlsb_attach() at mcclock_tlsb_attach+0xe4 device_probe_and_attach() at device_probe_and_attach+0xcc bus_generic_attach() at bus_generic_attach+0x28 device_probe_and_attach() at device_probe_and_attach+0xcc bus_generic_attach() at bus_generic_attach+0x28 device_probe_and_attach() at device_probe_and_attach+0xcc bus_generic_attach() at bus_generic_attach+0x28 device_probe_and_attach() at device_probe_and_attach+0xcc root_bus_configure() at root_bus_configure+0x38 configure() at configure+0x40 mi_startup() at mi_startup+0xf4 locorestart() at locorestart+0x6c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 20:47:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DC237B479 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA78067; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:47:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:47:09 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: platform news: TurboLaser status in -current Message-ID: <20001101204709.A78036@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 04:14:16PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 04:14:16PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > As we struggle along to fix things, I'll post periodic missives as to > what I'm seeing... Any debuging output on the PC164? I've killed Beast and JHB said you were going to turn on some kernel debugging and get some data. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 22:28: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35DD37B4CF for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14618 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:28:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: platform news: TurboLaser status in -current In-Reply-To: <20001101204709.A78036@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 04:14:16PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > As we struggle along to fix things, I'll post periodic missives as to > > what I'm seeing... > > Any debuging output on the PC164? I've killed Beast and JHB said you > were going to turn on some kernel debugging and get some data. :-) None more than I saw previously. I had to go to work the last two days, sorry. It's basically still stuck at disabling some ints, putting a couple threads on a run queue, but neglecting to run them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 1 23:25:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FD737B4D7; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 23:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28049; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:23:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr07.primenet.com(206.165.6.207) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAlBayS2; Thu Nov 2 00:23:07 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA00778; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 00:24:54 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200011020724.AAA00778@usr07.primenet.com> Subject: Re: linux emulation To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:24:54 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14848.44982.354268.277746@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from "Andrew Gallatin" at Nov 01, 2000 07:12:39 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The first bits of linux emulation for alpha has been committed to > -current, (largely thanks to the heroic efforts of David O'Brien). > > The emulation is currently good enough to support running Applixware, > the compaq C compiler, and a few other random things. Instructions > for installing and running the Compaq C compiler are available from > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions. > > The reason to care about the compaq compilers is that they generate > much better code than gcc. Something like a 4x speedup is not unheard > of with floating point intensive apps. > > This will (hopefully) be coming to -stable fairly soon.. This broaches a subject I've been pondering for a bit now, which is probably going to provoke some flamage and gnashing of teeth. It seems to me that FreeBSD itself is 4x slower than it needs to be on Alpha. What are the chances of compiling FreeBSD itself with the Compaq compilers? This would seem to be the natural next step, and it also seems to me that this could accelerate the Alpha developement and increase general Alpha stability immensely. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 2 7:13:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C83037B4D7; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 07:13:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18205; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA2FDn707055; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:13:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:13:49 -0500 (EST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: linux emulation In-Reply-To: <200011020724.AAA00778@usr07.primenet.com> References: <14848.44982.354268.277746@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <200011020724.AAA00778@usr07.primenet.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14849.33572.825297.699854@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > This broaches a subject I've been pondering for a bit now, > which is probably going to provoke some flamage and gnashing > of teeth. > > It seems to me that FreeBSD itself is 4x slower than it needs > to be on Alpha. Its not quite that bad. The Compaq compilers distinguish themselves on floating point; there's not a lot of floating point in the kernel ;) > What are the chances of compiling FreeBSD itself with the > Compaq compilers? This would seem to be the natural next > step, and it also seems to me that this could accelerate > the Alpha developement and increase general Alpha stability > immensely. > Even though I know it won't give a 4x speedup, I'd really like to compile at least the kernel with the Compaq compilers. The major hurdle (for me at least) is that there is a large difference between Compaq's syntax for in-line assembly and gcc's syntax. As for math intensive stuff, as I pointed out a few months ago, linking Compaq's math library with FreeBSD apps is dead simple. I run my X server that way at home. That seems to have increased its stability somewhat. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 2 12:28:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AB637B479; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26488; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA2KSov07762; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:28:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:28:49 -0500 (EST) To: wpaul@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: if_dc panics -stable machine on ifconfig X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14849.51386.947190.275539@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill, Your recent changes to if_dc cause my alpha to panic upong ifconfig'ing dc0, which is a DE500-BA: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #4: Thu Nov 2 13:48:21 EST 2000 gallatin@thunder.cs.duke.edu:/.amd_mnt/muffin/export/ari_scratch2/gallatin/stable/sys/compile/THUNDER UP1000 <...> dc0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x41353100-0x4135317f irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 dc0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:f8:07:b6:45 miibus0: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus0 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto <...> /dev/ad0e: clean, 1049997 free (1429 frags, 131071 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) Doing initial network setup: hostname domain. fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0xefefefefefefefef a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc00004eebd0 ra = 0xfffffc00004ed000 curproc = 0xfffffe0006526c40 pid = 49, comm = ifconfig According to gdb on a debug kernel, this maps to: (gdb) l *0xfffffc00004eebd0 0xfffffc00004eebd0 is in dc_apply_fixup (../../pci/if_dc.c:1501). 1496 1497 if (m == NULL) 1498 return; 1499 1500 for (i = 0, p = m->dc_reset_ptr; i < m->dc_reset_len; i++, p += 2) { 1501 reg = (p[0] | (p[1] << 8)) << 16; 1502 CSR_WRITE_4(sc, DC_WATCHDOG, reg); 1503 } 1504 1505 for (i = 0, p = m->dc_gp_ptr; i < m->dc_gp_len; i++, p += 2) { Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 2 14:20:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8F837B4D7 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18440 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:20:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:20:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: platform news: AlphaStation 500 status in -current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Works, with 4.1 boot block and hints set in loader.rc. (will try more later...) Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Setting atkbd 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting atkbd 0 irq to 1 (int) Setting atkbdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting atkbdc 0 port to 96 (int) Setting fd 0 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 0 drive to 0 (int) Setting fdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting fdc 0 drq to 2 (int) Setting fdc 0 irq to 6 (int) Setting fdc 0 port to 1008 (int) Setting mcclock 0 at to isa (string) Setting mcclock 0 port to 112 (int) Setting ppc 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 irq to 7 (int) Setting psm 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting psm 0 irq to 12 (int) Setting sc 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 irq to 4 (int) Setting sio 0 port to 1016 (int) Setting sio 1 at to isa (string) Setting sio 1 flags to 80 (int) Setting sio 1 irq to 3 (int) Setting sio 1 port to 760 (int) Setting vga 0 at to isa (string) FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Thu Nov 2 02:25:09 PST 2000 mjacob@carl.nas.nasa.gov:/space/sys/compile/STRIPPED AlphaStation 500 or 600 (KN20AA) Digital AlphaStation 500/500, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020115 real memory = 266182656 (259944K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00734000 - 0x0ff0dfff, 259891200 bytes (31725 pages) avail memory = 252469248 (246552K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000714000. Preloaded elf module "ispfw.ko" at 0xfffffc00007140c0. null: random: mem: cia0: <2117x Core Logic chipset> cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0002, revid=0x26 bus=0, slot=6, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=13 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010180, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82051080, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0009, revid=0x20 bus=0, slot=8, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=16 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010100, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82051000, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x1077, dev=0x1020, revid=0x02 bus=0, slot=9, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=12 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010000, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82050000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0482, revid=0x15 bus=0, slot=10, func=0 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 pci0: on pcib0 de0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x82051080-0x820510ff irq 13 at device 6.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at CIA irq 13 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.6 de0: address 00:00:f8:25:34:a6 bpf: de0 attached de1: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82051000-0x8205107f irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci0 de1: interrupting at CIA irq 16 de1: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de1: address 00:c0:f0:16:28:1f bpf: de1 attached Qlogic ISP Driver, FreeBSD Version 5.4, Core Version 2.0 isp0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82050000-0x82050fff irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 isp0: using Memory space register mapping isp0: interrupting at CIA irq 12 isp0: Board Revision 1020A, loaded F/W Revision 4.65.0 isp0: Last F/W revision was 5.1.1 isab0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbd0: atkbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1f0000 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: current command byte:0061 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: failed to reset the aux device. fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 500000045 Hz (firmware 500000000 Hz) i8254 clock: 1193183 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency ppc0 failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 sc0: no video adapter is found. sc0: failed to probe on isa0 sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x50 on isa0 vga0: failed to probe on isa0 sc1: no video adapter is found. sc1: failed to probe on isa0 vga1: failed to probe on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 500000045 Hz bpf: lo0 attached de1: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port isp0: 0.1 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc5c0 isp0: 0.1 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.4 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.4 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc5c0 isp0: 0.4 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xd500 isp0: 0.0 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc5c0 isp0: 0.0 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 Creating DISK cd0 Creating DISK da0 Creating DISK da1 pass0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number JDF492370Q9UPJ isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 pass0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass1: Serial Number LA460580 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 pass1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass2 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 pass2: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device isp0: 0.4 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 pass2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number JDF492370Q9UPJ isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Serial Number LA460580 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): got CAM status 0x50 (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): lost device (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): removing device entry Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a da1: invalid primary partition table: no magic start_init: trying /sbin/init da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic de0: autosense failed: cable problem? Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 7 done Uptime: 1m7s Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Setting atkbd 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting atkbd 0 irq to 1 (int) Setting atkbdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting atkbdc 0 port to 96 (int) Setting fd 0 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 0 drive to 0 (int) Setting fdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting fdc 0 drq to 2 (int) Setting fdc 0 irq to 6 (int) Setting fdc 0 port to 1008 (int) Setting mcclock 0 at to isa (string) Setting mcclock 0 port to 112 (int) Setting ppc 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 irq to 7 (int) Setting psm 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting psm 0 irq to 12 (int) Setting sc 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 irq to 4 (int) Setting sio 0 port to 1016 (int) Setting sio 1 at to isa (string) Setting sio 1 flags to 80 (int) Setting sio 1 irq to 3 (int) Setting sio 1 port to 760 (int) Setting vga 0 at to isa (string) FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Thu Nov 2 02:25:09 PST 2000 mjacob@carl.nas.nasa.gov:/space/sys/compile/STRIPPED AlphaStation 500 or 600 (KN20AA) Digital AlphaStation 500/500, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020115 real memory = 266182656 (259944K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x006d2000 - 0x0ff0dfff, 260292608 bytes (31774 pages) avail memory = 252854272 (246928K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc00006b2000. null: random: mem: cia0: <2117x Core Logic chipset> cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0002, revid=0x26 bus=0, slot=6, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=13 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010180, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82051080, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0009, revid=0x20 bus=0, slot=8, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=16 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010100, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82051000, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x1077, dev=0x1020, revid=0x02 bus=0, slot=9, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=12 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010000, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82050000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0482, revid=0x15 bus=0, slot=10, func=0 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 pci0: on pcib0 de0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x82051080-0x820510ff irq 13 at device 6.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at CIA irq 13 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.6 de0: address 00:00:f8:25:34:a6 bpf: de0 attached de1: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82051000-0x8205107f irq 16 at device 8.0 on pci0 de1: interrupting at CIA irq 16 de1: 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de1: address 00:c0:f0:16:28:1f bpf: de1 attached Qlogic ISP Driver, FreeBSD Version 5.4, Core Version 2.0 isp0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82050000-0x82050fff irq 12 at device 9.0 on pci0 isp0: using Memory space register mapping isp0: interrupting at CIA irq 12 isp0: Board Revision 1020A, resident F/W Revision 5.1.1 isp0: Last F/W revision was 5.1.1 isab0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 sc-: sc0 already exists, using sc1 instead vga-: vga0 already exists, using vga1 instead isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbd0: atkbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1f0000 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: current command byte:0061 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: failed to reset the aux device. fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 500001082 Hz (firmware 500000000 Hz) i8254 clock: 1193186 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency ppc0 failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 sc0: no video adapter is found. sc0: failed to probe on isa0 sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x50 on isa0 vga0: failed to probe on isa0 sc1: no video adapter is found. sc1: failed to probe on isa0 vga1: failed to probe on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 500001082 Hz bpf: lo0 attached de1: enabling Full Duplex 100baseTX port isp0: 0.1 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.1 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.4 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.4 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.4 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xd500 isp0: 0.0 get user period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.0 set current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 Creating DISK cd0 Creating DISK da0 Creating DISK da1 pass0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number JDF492370Q9UPJ isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 pass0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 pass1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass1: Serial Number LA460580 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 pass1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled pass2 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 pass2: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device isp0: 0.4 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 pass2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number JDF492370Q9UPJ isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4091MB (8380080 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: Serial Number LA460580 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0xc flags 0xfd00 da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 12, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): got CAM status 0x50 (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): lost device (cd0:isp0:0:4:0): removing device entry Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a da1: invalid primary partition table: no magic start_init: trying /sbin/init da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic de0: autosense failed: cable problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 2 19:22:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD3737B4C5; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA33Lq707464; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:22:05 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA33Lcr90991; Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:21:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 21:21:33 -0600 From: Steve Price To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha package build errors Message-ID: <20001102212133.F19243@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think Satoshi has an Alpha build cluster yet, so I started a package build a couple of days ago just in case. I know there isn't much time before the freeze but if anyone sees something they can fix and want to send me a patch I'd be happy to get it in. Here's the URL showing the build errors in a format similar to the ones on bento. http://bsd.planetwe.com/~steve/alpha/4-latest/ -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 3 6:15:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from 1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu (1upmc-msx1.isdip.upmc.edu [128.147.16.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB1F37B4D7 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 1UPMC-MSX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Person, Roderick" To: 'Alpha FreeBSD' Subject: Digital Alpha Station 200 4/233 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:15:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C045A0.6C974BF4" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C045A0.6C974BF4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can these run FreeBSD or are they stuck with NT? Roderick P. Person Programmer II Crystal Administrator (412)454-2616 personrp@ccbh.com "There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially children." - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality ------_=_NextPart_001_01C045A0.6C974BF4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Digital Alpha Station 200 4/233

Can these run FreeBSD or are they stuck with NT?

Roderick P. Person
Programmer II
Crystal Administrator
(412)454-2616
personrp@ccbh.com



"There are many things that you're not supposed to eat, especially
children."

        - Mary Margaret McBride, radio personality


------_=_NextPart_001_01C045A0.6C974BF4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 3 6:30:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60D437B4CF for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA64169; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:30:10 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Person, Roderick" Cc: "'Alpha FreeBSD'" Subject: Re: Digital Alpha Station 200 4/233 Message-ID: <20001103063010.A64146@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from personrp@ccbh.com on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 09:15:14AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 09:15:14AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote: > Can these run FreeBSD or are they stuck with NT? Yes they can. You just need to have SRM as the current firmware. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 3 6:37:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3E437B4C5 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 06:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13rhxq-00000j-00; Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:37:06 +0000 To: "Person, Roderick" , 'Alpha FreeBSD' From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: Re: Digital Alpha Station 200 4/233 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:37:06 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.166 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can these run FreeBSD or are they stuck with NT? Just get a sensible SRM version (you might have an old one on an NT box) and FreeBSD will do it's thing. See alpha/HARDWARE.TXT Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 3 7:54:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89AC37B4C5 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 07:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13669 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eA3FsXu00833; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:54:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:54:33 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_dc panics -stable machine on ifconfig In-Reply-To: <14849.51386.947190.275539@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <14849.51386.947190.275539@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14850.57207.458840.488931@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To confirm -- Bill's recent commits to if_dc.c fix the problem (1.37 in -current and 1.9.2.15 in -stable) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 3 10:27:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186D37B4E5; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 10:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F1D3C5730B; Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:27:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 12:27:25 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Steve Price , phj@cn.freebsd.org Cc: alpha@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha package build errors Message-ID: <20001103122725.C2768@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" References: <20001102212133.F19243@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001102212133.F19243@bonsai.knology.net>; from steve@freebsd.org on Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:21:33PM -0600 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:21:33PM -0600, Steve Price scribbled: | I don't think Satoshi has an Alpha build cluster yet, so I | started a package build a couple of days ago just in case. I | know there isn't much time before the freeze but if anyone | sees something they can fix and want to send me a patch I'd | be happy to get it in. | | Here's the URL showing the build errors in a format similar | to the ones on bento. | | http://bsd.planetwe.com/~steve/alpha/4-latest/ The chinese/chinput ports is building using -O2, I think this can be fixed trivially by this patch. However, I have not tested this due to my alpha box being broken. Would someone please test? You can either change files/patch-ab to my attached file or simply remove patch-ab and add patch-ac -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch.chinput" diff -crN work/chinput/src/Imakefile chinput/src/Imakefile *** work/chinput/src/Imakefile Thu Sep 7 04:53:50 2000 --- chinput/src/Imakefile Fri Nov 3 12:21:48 2000 *************** *** 37,43 **** #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wcast-qual -Wstrict-prototypes #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes ! CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall all:: $(PROGRAMS) --- 37,43 ---- #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wcast-qual -Wstrict-prototypes #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes ! #CCOPTIONS=-g -Wall all:: $(PROGRAMS) diff -crN work/chinput/tool/Makefile chinput/tool/Makefile *** work/chinput/tool/Makefile Thu Sep 7 05:02:55 2000 --- chinput/tool/Makefile Fri Nov 3 12:22:28 2000 *************** *** 3,9 **** LIBDIR = $(TOPDIR)/share/chinput MANDIR = $(TOPDIR)/usr/man/man1 ! CFLAGS = -O2 -W $(OPTS) -I. LD = gcc $(CFLAGS) RM = rm -f INSTALL = install --- 3,9 ---- LIBDIR = $(TOPDIR)/share/chinput MANDIR = $(TOPDIR)/usr/man/man1 ! CFLAGS = -O -W $(OPTS) -I. LD = gcc $(CFLAGS) RM = rm -f INSTALL = install --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 4 11:58:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D45037B4E5; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13s9Rz-0001ax-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2000 19:58:03 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA4J1Ki13521; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:01:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:01:19 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Cc: ken@freebsd.org, justin@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001104200119.A13502@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Observed on my Miata, but also on a AS1000A at work: ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 599870268 Hz Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle isp0: 0.6 get user period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.6 set current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 isp0: 0.0 get user period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.0 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.0 set current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.1 get user period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.1 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.1 set current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.2 get user period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 isp0: 0.2 get current period 0x19 offset 0x0 flags 0xc500 isp0: 0.2 set current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device isp0: 0.0 get current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4095MB (8388314 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da2 at isp0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device isp0: 0.2 get current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device isp0: 0.1 get current period 0xc offset 0x8 flags 0xfd00 da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4357MB (8925000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 555C) (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): got CAM status 0x50 (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): lost device (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): removing device entry WARNING: clock gained 6 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold miata# miata#camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,da2) at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass3) miata# The AS1000A has a different cdrom drive (RRD46) but I also tested a RRD46 on it which caused the same 'lack of attach'. This is annoying at best. Sometimes a 'camcontrol rescan' will cause 'cd' to attach. Wilko -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 4 12:32:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C292C37B4D7; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 12:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA11754; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:32:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:32:17 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , justin@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001104133216.A11678@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20001104200119.A13502@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001104200119.A13502@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:01:19PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 20:01:19 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Observed on my Miata, but also on a AS1000A at work: [ ... ] > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): got CAM status 0x50 > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): lost device > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): removing device entry Status 0x50 is: CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAIL = 0x10,/* Autosense: request sense cmd fail */ and CAM_DEV_QFRZN = 0x40, /* The DEV queue is frozen w/this err */ The first one is the important thing. For some reason the command is failing but we aren't getting any sense information back. > miata#camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,da1) > at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (pass2,da2) > at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (pass3) > miata# > > The AS1000A has a different cdrom drive (RRD46) but I also tested a > RRD46 on it which caused the same 'lack of attach'. This is annoying at > best. Sometimes a 'camcontrol rescan' will cause 'cd' to attach. There are several things to try here. First, try this: camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" That will issue a read capacity command to the drive. The second thing to try is booting with a CD in the drive, and without a CD in the drive, and see if one or the other causes it to probe. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 4 15: 7:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1CC37B479; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13sCPW-000BkG-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2000 23:07:42 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA4M7HU14147; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:07:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 23:07:17 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Kenneth D. Merry" , mjacob@freebsd.org Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , justin@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001104230717.B14074@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001104200119.A13502@freebie.demon.nl> <20001104133216.A11678@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001104133216.A11678@panzer.kdm.org>; from ken@kdm.org on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 01:32:17PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 01:32:17PM -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 20:01:19 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Observed on my Miata, but also on a AS1000A at work: > > [ ... ] > > > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): got CAM status 0x50 > > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device > > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): lost device > > (cd0:isp0:0:6:0): removing device entry > > Status 0x50 is: > > CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAIL = 0x10,/* Autosense: request sense cmd fail */ > and > CAM_DEV_QFRZN = 0x40, /* The DEV queue is frozen w/this err */ > > The first one is the important thing. For some reason the command is > failing but we aren't getting any sense information back. ... > There are several things to try here. > > First, try this: > > camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" > > That will issue a read capacity command to the drive. The second thing to Which produces (on Miata): without CD loaded: miata#camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" Nov 5 00:01:10 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 camcontrol: Nov 5 00:01:10 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 error sending command CAM status is 0x10 miata# with CD loaded: miata#camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" camcontrol: error sending command CAM status is 0x10 miata#Nov 5 00:02:19 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 Nov 5 00:02:19 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 > try is booting with a CD in the drive, and without a CD in the drive, and > see if one or the other causes it to probe. The problem that I listed was when booting without a CD in the drive. My Miata is currently buildworlding-4.2beta so I have to wait a bit. The AS1000A was also booted without a disk in the drive. I'm 100% sure the same hardware ran ok at some point in time (at least on 4.1R). On the AS1000A I have tested both a RRD45 and a RRD46 (both rebadged Toshibas btw) with the same effect. Common is a Qlogic card, so driven by isp. Matt, any comments? It would be nice to get this sorted out before 4.2 releases. DEC RRD drives tend to be pretty common on Alphas ;-) W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 4 16:30: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA54537B479; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA13415; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:29:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 17:29:52 -0700 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: mjacob@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , justin@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001104172952.B12998@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20001104200119.A13502@freebie.demon.nl> <20001104133216.A11678@panzer.kdm.org> <20001104230717.B14074@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001104230717.B14074@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 11:07:17PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 23:07:17 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 01:32:17PM -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > > There are several things to try here. > > > > First, try this: > > > > camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" > > > > That will issue a read capacity command to the drive. The second thing to > > Which produces (on Miata): > > without CD loaded: > miata#camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" > Nov 5 00:01:10 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 > flags 0xd500 > camcontrol: Nov 5 00:01:10 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 > offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 > error sending command > CAM status is 0x10 > miata# > > with CD loaded: > > miata#camcontrol cmd pass3 -v -c "25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0" -i 8 "i4 i4" > camcontrol: error sending command > CAM status is 0x10 > miata#Nov 5 00:02:19 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 > offset 0x8 flags 0xd500 > Nov 5 00:02:19 miata /kernel: isp0: 0.6 get current period 0x19 offset 0x8 > flags 0xd500 Same problem, autosense failed. What happens if you issue a TUR, or an inquiry? camcontrol tur pass3 -v camcontrol inquiry pass3 -v The thing is, I'm not sure what will happen if there is a unit attention condition on the drive (as there will be when you insert media), and autosense is failing. Will the condition be cleared or not? The inquiry at least should work, the test unit ready might work. Try the TUR both with a CD in the drive and without one in the drive. > > try is booting with a CD in the drive, and without a CD in the drive, and > > see if one or the other causes it to probe. > > The problem that I listed was when booting without a CD in the drive. > My Miata is currently buildworlding-4.2beta so I have to wait a bit. > > The AS1000A was also booted without a disk in the drive. I'm 100% sure the > same hardware ran ok at some point in time (at least on 4.1R). On the > AS1000A I have tested both a RRD45 and a RRD46 (both rebadged Toshibas btw) > with the same effect. > > Common is a Qlogic card, so driven by isp. Matt, any comments? Do you have another type of controller handy that you could plug the drive into? That might help isolate the problem. I don't think there has been much, if anything that has changed that would cause this sort of problem, at least in the CD driver. > It would be nice to get this sorted out before 4.2 releases. DEC RRD drives > tend to be pretty common on Alphas ;-) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 4 20:59:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (unknown [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7869637B4C5 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA54xVn55341 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 21:59:31 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA38690 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 21:59:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200011050459.VAA38690@harmony.village.org> To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: iso image? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 21:59:30 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Will there be an iso cdrom image for alpha for testing before 4.2-RELEASE? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message