From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 12 8:37:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F9937B4C5 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 08:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eACGbLj20015 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:37:28 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eACGbAf11514 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:37:12 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eACGbAp05884 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:37:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 17:37:09 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: AST and ithread question Message-ID: <20001112173709.B5667@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As far as I underderstood an AST is needed for context switching. An AST can only happen before returning to user-mode. Which process is running in user-mode during kernel initialisation. How can the context switched to an scsi-controller ithread during the first scsi-probe? I can see that there are getting clock swi scheduled and processed. after the 15 second period after scsi-reset I see from one or more controllers an interrupt and the connected ithread is set to the run-queue. No ithread including the clock is running after that. The clock is still geting scheduled. I tried to remove this AST limitation but this doesn't work as the kernel hangs during clock initialisation. I also tried to reduce it to gd_intr_nested_level==0 Possibly the console output from KTR changes the situation as I'm running on a 9600 seriel. Does anyone know how I can change this to a higher rate? If neccesary I will add some sio devices to separate kernel and SRM output. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 1:12:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 61A0C37B479; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:12:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 01:12:17 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: (FWD) 4.2-BETA release candidate #1 ISO installation image available Message-ID: <20001113011217.A37969@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The DEC Alpha/AXP RC#1 is at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-RC1-install.iso This is an installatable ISO image with XFree86 3.3.6 bits (no packages) (MD5 checksum is in CHECKSUM.MD5 in the same directory). The FTP installable version is also uploading to the FTP site and will be available from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ shortly. Please test this all you can! Thanks. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 8:12:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B5B37B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 08:12:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vMDw-0006ks-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:12:48 +0000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:12:48 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.165 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I have just finished testing the RC1 CDROM install on both AS1000A and AS2100. Both appear to work just fine. At least the install/boot does. Multia & Miata I hope to test tonight. I still lack a small (<= 2Gb) memory module for TurboLaser so I cannot test that one at the moment. I suggest the owners of the more un-common alpha models give Matt's RC image a try! Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 9: 1:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5197C37B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30175; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:01:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:01:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi there, > > I have just finished testing the RC1 CDROM install on both AS1000A and > AS2100. Both appear to work just fine. At least the install/boot does. > > Multia & Miata I hope to test tonight. I still lack a small (<= 2Gb) > memory module for TurboLaser so I cannot test that one at the moment. I'll hit that on Wednesday. Basically, for 4.2, you have to <= 2GB for TurboLaser. I have to redo a bunch of stuff- and we have to begin to insist that for FreeBSD-alpha that drivers must use busdma (the alpha_dma_XXX value will be going away- or maybe we'll keep an option). We're just fooling ourselves by keeping it around. > > I suggest the owners of the more un-common alpha models give Matt's RC > image a try! > Dave's RC1 candidate is a better ISO image to try- it's got X86. > Wilko > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 9: 5:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101BC37B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:05:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00643; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eADH5Eu32853; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:05:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:05:14 -0500 (EST) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14864.7979.197947.289579@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > of stuff- and we have to begin to insist that for FreeBSD-alpha that drivers > must use busdma (the alpha_dma_XXX value will be going away- or maybe we'll > keep an option). We're just fooling ourselves by keeping it around. Do _any_ network drivers use busdma? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 9: 8:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFAA37B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30226; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:08:17 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:08:15 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: <14864.7979.197947.289579@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Matthew Jacob writes: > > of stuff- and we have to begin to insist that for FreeBSD-alpha that drivers > > must use busdma (the alpha_dma_XXX value will be going away- or maybe we'll > > keep an option). We're just fooling ourselves by keeping it around. > > Do _any_ network drivers use busdma? NetBSD version of if_de :-)..... Possibly not. It's getting time for them to do so. I've had it on my list for a while to do if_wx as a sample for Bill Paul and others to think about. Others have made assertions that we should 'just use bounce buffers instead of fixing drivers'. That doesn't work because you still have a shared resource to tell unaware drivers. This has to get fixed sooner or later anyway. For crying out loud, even Linux has figured this out. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 9:13:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775FC37B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00865; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eADHDCO32876; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:13:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:13:12 -0500 (EST) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: <14864.7979.197947.289579@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14864.8339.742471.148275@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > Possibly not. It's getting time for them to do so. I've had it on my list for > a while to do if_wx as a sample for Bill Paul and others to think about. An example would certainly be helpful. Some sort of sgmap_mbuf() (or whatever NetBSD's interface is would be very helpful). Let's try to avoid something hideously complex, like Tru64's interface. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 9:17:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B0E37B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30280; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:17:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:17:10 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: <14864.8339.742471.148275@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Matthew Jacob writes: > > Possibly not. It's getting time for them to do so. I've had it on my list for > > a while to do if_wx as a sample for Bill Paul and others to think about. > > An example would certainly be helpful. Some sort of sgmap_mbuf() (or > whatever NetBSD's interface is would be very helpful). > > Let's try to avoid something hideously complex, like Tru64's > interface. There already exists Bus dma mapping interfaces... All that is necessary is some reasonably network sample code that does not eat into performance (too badly) so that NIC driver writers will be encouraged to DTRT. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 10:38:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2690437B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13vOUb-0006Q8-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:38:10 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAD6fix01764 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 07:41:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 07:41:44 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: TESTERS! Please wake up! Message-ID: <20001113074144.C1643@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ladies & gentlemen 4.2-RC testers, Please note that the RC1 .ISO for alpha is available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/4.2-RC1-install.iso A (hopefully current; please keep me posted on any testing!) test status for RC1 can be found at: http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/ Wilko (your self-appointed 4.2/axp test coordinator) -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 11:44:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9A337B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp245.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.245]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eADJi1B59686; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001112173709.B5667@cicely8.cicely.de> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 11:44:27 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: RE: AST and ithread question Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: > As far as I underderstood an AST is needed for context switching. > An AST can only happen before returning to user-mode. > Which process is running in user-mode during kernel initialisation. > How can the context switched to an scsi-controller ithread during > the first scsi-probe? The SCSI probe is done during SI_SUB_INT_CONFIG_HOOKS. Note that the timeouts to manage the roundrobin scheduler are started just before this in SI_SUB_KICK_SCHEDULER. During the probes on the SCSI bus and the ATA bus, the kernel code calls tsleep() to wait for the interrupts to come in. The CPU then spins in the idle process loop (sys/kern/kern_idle.c:idle_proc()), which calls mi_switch() as soon as a process becomes runnable (such as when an interrupt occurs and schedules an interrupt thread to run). Each interrupt thread runs to completion, and then calls mi_switch() to run either the next interrupt thread, the just-awakened() proc0 that did the tsleep() (if the handler did a wakeup()), or to go back into the idle process. > I can see that there are getting clock swi scheduled and processed. > after the 15 second period after scsi-reset I see from one or more > controllers an interrupt and the connected ithread is set to the > run-queue. > No ithread including the clock is running after that. > The clock is still geting scheduled. The clock is not handled via a thread, it is run directly. > I tried to remove this AST limitation but this doesn't work as the > kernel hangs during clock initialisation. > I also tried to reduce it to gd_intr_nested_level==0 Removing the AST limitation would make our kernel pre-emptive, which it is not designed to be. :) Only userland is pre-emptive in FreeBSD atm. > Possibly the console output from KTR changes the situation as I'm > running on a 9600 seriel. > Does anyone know how I can change this to a higher rate? > If neccesary I will add some sio devices to separate kernel and SRM > output. > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 12:20:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7537B4D7 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA73964; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C99637B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:15:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13vQ16-0000UP-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:15:48 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAD8Ifh02223; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:18:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Message-Id: <200011130818.eAD8Ifh02223@freebie.demon.nl> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:18:41 +0100 (CET) From: wilko@freebsd.org Reply-To: wilko@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: alpha/22824: unaligned accesses from dhclient Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22824 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: unaligned accesses from dhclient >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 13 12:20:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wilko Bulte >Release: FreeBSD 4-STABLE alpha >Organization: Private FreeBSD site - The Netherlands >Environment: dhclient running on alpha. >Description: # dhclient de0 pid 174 (dhclient): unaligned access: va=0x11ff9b4c pc=0x12000aca4 ra=0x12000ab98 op=ldt pid 174 (dhclient): unaligned access: va=0x11ff9b54 pc=0x12000aca8 ra=0x12000ab98 op=ldt dhclient: New IP Address(de0): 192.168.200.204 Aug 16 11:15:25 dhclient: New IP Address(de0): 192.168.200.204 dhclient: New Subnet Mask (de0): 255.255.255.0 Aug 16 11:15:25 dhclient: New Subnet Mask (de0): 255.255.255.0 dhclient: New Broadcast Address(de0): 255.255.255.0 Aug 16 11:15:25 dhclient: New Broadcast Address(de0): 255.255.255.0 dhclient: New Routers: 192.168.200.1 Aug 16 11:15:25 dhclient: New Routers: 192.168.200.1 # uname -a FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC alpha # >How-To-Repeat: Run dhclient on alpha. I'll try to 'uac' track this when I have more time. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 13:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080A237B4C5; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13vQru-0001jg-00; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:10:22 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAD9Du903953; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:13:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:13:56 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , mjacob@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , justin@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/22650: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable Message-ID: <20001113101356.A3918@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001109234606.A14689@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001109234606.A14689@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:46:06PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:46:06PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 03:37:17PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > Wilko - does your machine that has this problem say: > > > > isp0: invalid NVRAM header > > Don't remember having seen this (ever). But will check tomorrow (heading to > bed now Took a bit longer but I checked it today: my Miata never displayed this message. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 15:29:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F332537B4CF for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22515 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2000 23:29:13 -0000 Received: from vador.aoc.clarkson.edu (128.153.130.33) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 23:29:13 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:29:02 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Cohen X-Sender: cohentl@vador.aoc.clarkson.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: SuperProbe segfault Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've been trying to get X going on my AlphaStation 200 with a Cirrus Logic 5464 video card. I use xf86config to generate the config file but when I run startx the server crashes after a few seconds. If I try starting in 16bpp the server tells me it can only find 64k of ram and that no screens found or something like that. This card has 2 megs of ram on it so I figured I'd run SuperProbe to see what it finds. Well, SuperProbe crashes without giving me any data. Here is a backtrace. Is this a known problem? I use to have X working on this I believe with a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 card which also uses the SVGA server. I have re-installed with a newer version of FreeBSD since then though. I'm running 4.1 Release (4.1.1 wouldn't boot into the install menu if I remember correctly) which yesterday was updated to 4.2-Beta something via cvsup yesterday. Any help/pointers would be appreciated. Also, is there a normal VGA server available? Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x160055598 in outb () from /usr/lib/libio.so.1 (gdb) bt #0 0x160055598 in outb () from /usr/lib/libio.so.1 #1 0x1200134b8 in _init () #2 0x120012788 in _init () #3 0x120002a34 in _init () Error accessing memory address 0xfffffffffffffffd: Bad address. __________________________________________________________________________ ICMP: The protocol that goes PING! I like angles, but only to a degree. cthread. cthread_fork(). Fork, thread, fork! Black holes suck. http://wckn.clarkson.edu/~cohentl/ Real_men_don't_need_spacebars. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 15:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6A037B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA40206; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:38:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:38:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Todd Cohen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperProbe segfault Message-ID: <20001113153806.B39590@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from cohentl@clarkson.edu on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:29:02PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:29:02PM -0500, Todd Cohen wrote: > I've been trying to get X going on my AlphaStation 200 with a > Cirrus Logic 5464 video card. I use xf86config to generate the config file Where did you get the X11 bits from? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 15:42: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.clarkson.edu (mail2.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B594937B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24400 invoked by uid 0); 13 Nov 2000 23:41:59 -0000 Received: from vador.aoc.clarkson.edu (128.153.130.33) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 13 Nov 2000 23:41:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Cohen X-Sender: cohentl@vador.aoc.clarkson.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperProbe segfault In-Reply-To: <20001113153806.B39590@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The first time I installed it via the FreeBSD install program (ftp install about a week or so ago). When that didn't work I did a pkg_delete and then did an install via the ports collection. -Todd On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:29:02PM -0500, Todd Cohen wrote: > > I've been trying to get X going on my AlphaStation 200 with a > > Cirrus Logic 5464 video card. I use xf86config to generate the config file > > Where did you get the X11 bits from? > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________________________________ ICMP: The protocol that goes PING! I like angles, but only to a degree. cthread. cthread_fork(). Fork, thread, fork! Black holes suck. http://wckn.clarkson.edu/~cohentl/ Real_men_don't_need_spacebars. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 15:58:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B98A37B68C; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA50496; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:57:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:57:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does your Alpha run a SMPng kernel? In-Reply-To: <14860.18701.572533.296722@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > 'ata' timeouts occur with abandon during probing PC164 or on XP1000. > > Does the ata device ever recover? Neither if_fxp or if_dc ever > recover. After the first timeout, they're gone for good. I get this using if_tl on the x86. FreeBSD eisa-test.dev.jurai.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #206: Tue Oct 10 19:29:12 EDT 2000 winter@eisa-test.dev.jurai.net:/vol/src/current-src/src/sys/compile/EISA-TEST i386 -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 17: 7:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158D237B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:07:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAE1DoF01168; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011140113.eAE1DoF01168@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:13:12 EST." <14864.8339.742471.148275@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:13:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > Possibly not. It's getting time for them to do so. I've had it on my list for > > a while to do if_wx as a sample for Bill Paul and others to think about. > > An example would certainly be helpful. Some sort of sgmap_mbuf() (or > whatever NetBSD's interface is would be very helpful). I've talked with Bill Paul about this quite a bit; the real blocking factor is just the lack of a decent interface for s/g mapping mbufs, especially one that deals well with alignment issues. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 18:16:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (unknown [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BE237B4CF for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8819.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.3]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id CAA04111 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:13:58 GMT Message-ID: <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:02:22 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: AS200, PC164 Success. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI. I have just finished the installation and booting of the 4.2RC#1 floppy images on my AS200 4/233 and PC164. Hitherto, all is good. OH WAIT, WHAT THE!!!?!? heh.. wrong terminal it's all good. ;) -- Paul Halliday ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 19:28:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0C537B479; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA32666; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:28:42 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , mjacob@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , justin@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/22650: SCSI cdrom attach problems on 4-stable In-Reply-To: <20001113101356.A3918@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 'kay, thanks, that's one theory. On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 11:46:06PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 03:37:17PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > > > Wilko - does your machine that has this problem say: > > > > > > isp0: invalid NVRAM header > > > > Don't remember having seen this (ever). But will check tomorrow (heading to > > bed now > > Took a bit longer but I checked it today: my Miata never displayed this > message. > > W/ > > -- > Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands > wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 19:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B22B37B479; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00027; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:45:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:45:29 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mike Smith Cc: Andrew Gallatin , wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Test success for AS2100 and AS1000A In-Reply-To: <200011140113.eAE1DoF01168@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > Possibly not. It's getting time for them to do so. I've had it on my list for > > > a while to do if_wx as a sample for Bill Paul and others to think about. > > > > An example would certainly be helpful. Some sort of sgmap_mbuf() (or > > whatever NetBSD's interface is would be very helpful). > > I've talked with Bill Paul about this quite a bit; the real blocking > factor is just the lack of a decent interface for s/g mapping mbufs, > especially one that deals well with alignment issues. Yes, it'd be nice to use, as NetBSD has, a map_mbuf_chain, type function, but you can indeed manually follow the chain and make this happen. Possibly we'll do an mbuf mapper- that would indeed be least invasive. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 23: 9:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E10037B4C5 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vaDU-000ILh-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:09:16 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eADJCp206126; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:12:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:12:51 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Todd Cohen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SuperProbe segfault Message-ID: <20001113201251.A5416@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001113153806.B39590@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from cohentl@clarkson.edu on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:41:48PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:41:48PM -0500, Todd Cohen wrote: > The first time I installed it via the FreeBSD install program (ftp install > about a week or so ago). When that didn't work I did a pkg_delete and then > did an install via the ports collection. > > -Todd > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 06:29:02PM -0500, Todd Cohen wrote: > > > I've been trying to get X going on my AlphaStation 200 with a > > > Cirrus Logic 5464 video card. I use xf86config to generate the config file > > > > Where did you get the X11 bits from? Wasn't SuperProbe on alpha doomed to start with? I never had much luck with it > > -- > > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 13 23:21:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E9837B479 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vaPT-000IVf-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 07:21:39 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eADJPEh06225; Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:25:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:25:14 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Paul Halliday Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AS200, PC164 Success. Message-ID: <20001113202514.D5416@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org>; from dp@penix.org on Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:02:22PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 09:02:22PM -0500, Paul Halliday wrote: > HI. > > I have just finished the installation and booting of the 4.2RC#1 floppy > images on my > AS200 4/233 and PC164. Hitherto, all is good. OH WAIT, WHAT THE!!!?!? > heh.. wrong terminal > it's all good. ;) Web page updated, thanks for your help -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 1:33:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2862737B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 01:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31153 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2000 09:32:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO telehouse.ch) ([62.48.0.53]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Nov 2000 09:32:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3A1106F1.9534A06B@telehouse.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:33:37 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , mjacob@feral.com, John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does your Alpha run a SMPng kernel? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > > > 'ata' timeouts occur with abandon during probing PC164 or on XP1000. > > > > Does the ata device ever recover? Neither if_fxp or if_dc ever > > recover. After the first timeout, they're gone for good. > > I get this using if_tl on the x86. On a random sidenote, since I run my machine (x86/fxp) without a keyboard it seems to be stable, yet no fxp timeout for some days. -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 5:53:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4018437B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 05:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vgWk-0005Hs-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:53:34 +0000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: 4.2RC1 test results on Rawhide Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:53:34 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.166 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Just tried 4.2-RC1 on a Rawhide. It appears that 4.2 is compatible with 4.1R on Rawhide: lockup (?) during CDROM boot. Anybody else seen this? Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 8:23:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nt01.mercantec.com (mercantec.mercantec.com [205.243.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BE337B4C5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by nt01.merc.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:23:23 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:23:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can partially agree on the AS200 front. I was able to boot off the CDROM, however once up and running sysinstall couldn't find a CDROM. I popped it out and stuffed the CD into another box and finished the install via NFS and all was well. Upon shutdown a show dev no longer showed the CDROM :-( However, a boot off the freshly installed disk has no CDROM problems. Odd. Currently doing a buildworld w/o a problem. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Halliday [mailto:dp@penix.org] > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:02 PM > To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > HI. > > I have just finished the installation and booting of > the 4.2RC#1 floppy > images on my > AS200 4/233 and PC164. Hitherto, all is good. OH WAIT, WHAT THE!!!?!? > heh.. wrong terminal > it's all good. ;) > > -- > Paul Halliday > ============================================================== > ============== > Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. > Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. > GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 > 4AA3 E8B9 > Public Key available here: > http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt > ============================================================== > ============== > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 8:35:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0B637B4C5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01882; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:35:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:35:54 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. This may be a known (and filed PR) bug. Do you have a Qlogic or a Symbios SCSI adapter? > I can partially agree on the AS200 front. I was able to boot off the CDROM, > however once up and running sysinstall couldn't find a CDROM. I popped it > out and stuffed the CD into another box and finished the install via NFS and > all was well. Upon shutdown a show dev no longer showed the CDROM :-( > However, a boot off the freshly installed disk has no CDROM problems. Odd. > Currently doing a buildworld w/o a problem. > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Halliday [mailto:dp@penix.org] > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:02 PM > > To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > Subject: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > > > > HI. > > > > I have just finished the installation and booting of > > the 4.2RC#1 floppy > > images on my > > AS200 4/233 and PC164. Hitherto, all is good. OH WAIT, WHAT THE!!!?!? > > heh.. wrong terminal > > it's all good. ;) > > > > -- > > Paul Halliday > > ============================================================== > > ============== > > Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. > > Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. > > GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 > > 4AA3 E8B9 > > Public Key available here: > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt > > ============================================================== > > ============== > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 8:38: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nt01.mercantec.com (mercantec.mercantec.com [205.243.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B525937B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:37:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by nt01.merc.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:37:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'mjacob@feral.com'" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:37:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's the standard Symbios (810?) adapter. Let me know if you need more info. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Jacob [mailto:mjacob@feral.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:36 AM > To: McKinley, Rob > Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' > Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > > Hmm. This may be a known (and filed PR) bug. Do you have a > Qlogic or a Symbios > SCSI adapter? > > > > I can partially agree on the AS200 front. I was able to > boot off the CDROM, > > however once up and running sysinstall couldn't find a > CDROM. I popped it > > out and stuffed the CD into another box and finished the > install via NFS and > > all was well. Upon shutdown a show dev no longer showed > the CDROM :-( > > However, a boot off the freshly installed disk has no CDROM > problems. Odd. > > Currently doing a buildworld w/o a problem. > > > > Rob > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Paul Halliday [mailto:dp@penix.org] > > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:02 PM > > > To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > > Subject: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > > > > > > > HI. > > > > > > I have just finished the installation and booting of > > > the 4.2RC#1 floppy > > > images on my > > > AS200 4/233 and PC164. Hitherto, all is good. OH WAIT, > WHAT THE!!!?!? > > > heh.. wrong terminal > > > it's all good. ;) > > > > > > -- > > > Paul Halliday > > > ============================================================== > > > ============== > > > Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. > > > Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. > > > GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 > > > 4AA3 E8B9 > > > Public Key available here: > > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt > > > ============================================================== > > > ============== > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 8:39:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C11737B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01906; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:39:23 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:39:21 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, McKinley, Rob wrote: > It's the standard Symbios (810?) adapter. Let me know if you need more > info. Not the same PR then (whew). If you have any dmesg output that might correlate, that would be of inestimable help. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 8:45:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F2637B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vjDF-000BDW-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:45:37 +0000 To: mjacob@feral.com, "McKinley, Rob" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:45:37 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.166 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, McKinley, Rob wrote: > > > It's the standard Symbios (810?) adapter. Let me know if you need more > > info. > > Not the same PR then (whew). Interestingly enough Multia running of it's builtin ncr810 had no such problems. Hmm... > If you have any dmesg output that might correlate, that would be of > inestimable help. I'd also like to know what brand/type of CD is in the box (dmesg should have that too, I know) Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 9:13:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2735D37B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA25491 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12088; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G40YIG00.7G7; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:13:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001114090718.00adcb70@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:13:27 -0800 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: AS1200 Cc: Wilko Bulte In-Reply-To: <20001113202514.D5416@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Trying to boot from a CD: Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1) Get to the message: Booting [kernel]... After a very long wait (several minutes): failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid (the above message repeated several times) Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller. Marc Kaufman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 9:15:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2F637B4F9 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02055; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:14:59 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001114090718.00adcb70@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote: > Trying to boot from a CD: > > Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1) > > Get to the message: Booting [kernel]... > After a very long wait (several minutes): > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid > (the above message repeated several times) > > Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller. Yes, but this is an SRM issue, sounds like. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 9:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D1F37B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02110; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:34:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:34:16 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001114091951.00aecc90@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 09:14 AM 11/14/00 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote: > > > > > Trying to boot from a CD: > > > > > > Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1) > > > > > > Get to the message: Booting [kernel]... > > > After a very long wait (several minutes): > > > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > > > device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid > > > (the above message repeated several times) > > > > > > Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller. > > > >Yes, but this is an SRM issue, sounds like. > > > >-matt > > SRM is: > AlphaServer 1200 Console V5.8-2, 26-JUL-2000 16:19:04 > It's the latest code I could find. > > Bus 0: > Slot 1: NCR 53C810 > Slot 2: QLogic ISP10X0 Still- it's SRM that said, "Hmm- this device went away". -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 9:50:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA3F37B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp245.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.245]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAEHo4B92309; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A1106F1.9534A06B@telehouse.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:50:34 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andre Oppermann Subject: Re: Does your Alpha run a SMPng kernel? Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, mjacob@feral.com, Andrew Gallatin , "Matthew N. Dodd" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Nov-00 Andre Oppermann wrote: > "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: >> >> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> > Matthew Jacob writes: >> > > >> > > 'ata' timeouts occur with abandon during probing PC164 or on XP1000. >> > >> > Does the ata device ever recover? Neither if_fxp or if_dc ever >> > recover. After the first timeout, they're gone for good. >> >> I get this using if_tl on the x86. > > On a random sidenote, since I run my machine (x86/fxp) without a > keyboard it seems to be stable, yet no fxp timeout for some days. Ok. This may actually be relevant. :) When I have had mutex bugs in the past, I've noticed that the atkbd interrupt was using up a lot of processor time, so there may be a bug in the atkbd code somewhere. > -- > Andre -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 9:53:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CF637B4FE for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA02343 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12120; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G40Z1O00.9E7; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:25:00 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001114091951.00aecc90@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:24:59 -0800 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: AS1200 Cc: mjacob@feral.com In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20001114090718.00adcb70@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1800633==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_1800633==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:14 AM 11/14/00 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: >On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote: > > > Trying to boot from a CD: > > > > Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1) > > > > Get to the message: Booting [kernel]... > > After a very long wait (several minutes): > > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > > device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid > > (the above message repeated several times) > > > > Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller. > >Yes, but this is an SRM issue, sounds like. > >-matt SRM is: AlphaServer 1200 Console V5.8-2, 26-JUL-2000 16:19:04 It's the latest code I could find. Bus 0: Slot 1: NCR 53C810 Slot 2: QLogic ISP10X0 Marc --=====================_1800633==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 09:14 AM 11/14/00 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote:

> Trying to boot from a CD:
>
> Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1)
>
> Get to the message: Booting [kernel]...
> After a very long wait (several minutes):
> failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1
> device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid
> (the above message repeated several times)
>
> Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller.

Yes, but this is an SRM issue, sounds like.

-matt

SRM is:
AlphaServer 1200 Console V5.8-2, 26-JUL-2000 16:19:04
It's the latest code I could find.

Bus 0:
Slot 1: NCR 53C810
Slot 2: QLogic ISP10X0

Marc


--=====================_1800633==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 10:15:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF6437B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02373; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:15:40 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:15:38 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Let me re-check this. You *do* say it's at the after the 'Booting [kernel]' message, which means it's after the boot1 code has loaded the loader? Here's a typical alpha boot sequence- please send a copy back pointing to where you see the message you saw. >>>b dqa0 (boot dqa0.0.0.11.0 -flags a) block 0 of dqa0.0.0.11.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dqa0.0.0.11.0 bootstrap code read in base = 180000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 172000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000900010115 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0 (mjacob@farrago.feral.com, Thu Nov 9 08:07:18 PST 2000) Memory: 262144 k Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf kernel data=0x3b8a00+0x2a82a syms=[0x8+0x49f200x8+0x34bdb modules/ispfw.ko text=0x4f468 data=0x1e0+0x8 syms=[0x8+0x558+0x8+0x1d6] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... Booting [kernel]... Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032f040... Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Thu Nov 9 09:43:25 PST 2000 mjacob@farrago.feral.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 432 MHz, 432MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=1 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory = 265904128 (259672K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x007e0000 - 0x0ff0dfff, 259186688 bytes (31639 pages) avail memory = 251895808 (245992K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc00007c4000. Preloaded elf module "ispfw.ko" at 0xfffffc00007c40c0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 10:41:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E415A37B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA10432 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20968; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G412LK00.8J5; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001114102353.00ae8410@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:41:42 -0800 To: mjacob@feral.com From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: AS1200 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_6405337==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_6405337==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:15 AM 11/14/00 -0800, you wrote: >Let me re-check this. > >You *do* say it's at the after the 'Booting [kernel]' message, which means >it's after the boot1 code has loaded the loader? > >Here's a typical alpha boot sequence- please send a copy back pointing to >where you see the message you saw. > > >>>b dqa0 boot dka500 >(boot dqa0.0.0.11.0 -flags a) (boot dka500.5.0.1.1 -flags a) >block 0 of dqa0.0.0.11.0 is a valid boot block block 0 of dka500.5.0.1.1 is a valid boot block >reading 15 blocks from dqa0.0.0.11.0 reading 356 blocks from dka500.5.0.1.1 >bootstrap code read in bootstrap code read in building FRU table >base = 180000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800 >initializing HWRPB at 2000 >initializing page table at 172000 initializing page table at 1f2000 >initializing machine state >setting affinity to the primary CPU >jumping to bootstrap code >Loading /boot/loader >Console: SRM firmware console >VMS PAL rev: 0x1000900010115 VMS PAL rev: 0x4000200010115 >OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117 >Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > >FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0 FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 0.1 >(mjacob@farrago.feral.com, Thu Nov 9 08:07:18 PST 2000) (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Mon Mar 20 21:08:56 GMT 2000) >Memory: 262144 k Memory: 1048576 k >Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > this line doesn't appear >kernel data=0x3b8a00+0x2a82a syms=[0x8+0x49f200x8+0x34bdb > this line doesn't appear >modules/ispfw.ko text=0x4f468 data=0x1e0+0x8 syms=[0x8+0x558+0x8+0x1d6] > this line doesn't appear >Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. >Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... Booting [kernel]... I stop right here with a several minute delay and the messages > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid > >Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032f040... Marc Kaufman --=====================_6405337==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 10:15 AM 11/14/00 -0800, you wrote:

Let me re-check this.

You *do* say it's at the after the 'Booting [kernel]' message, which means
it's after the boot1 code has loaded the loader?

Here's a typical alpha boot sequence- please send a copy back pointing to
where you see the message you saw.

>>>b dqa0
 boot dka500
(boot dqa0.0.0.11.0 -flags a)
  (boot dka500.5.0.1.1 -flags a)
block 0 of dqa0.0.0.11.0 is a valid boot block
  block 0 of dka500.5.0.1.1 is a valid boot block
reading 15 blocks from dqa0.0.0.11.0
  reading 356 blocks from dka500.5.0.1.1
bootstrap code read in
  bootstrap code read in
  building FRU table
base = 180000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00
  base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800
initializing HWRPB at 2000
initializing page table at 172000
  initializing page table at 1f2000
initializing machine state
setting affinity to the primary CPU
jumping to bootstrap code
Loading /boot/loader
Console: SRM firmware console
VMS PAL rev: 0x1000900010115
  VMS PAL rev: 0x4000200010115
OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117
  OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117
Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded.

FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0
  FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 0.1
(mjacob@farrago.feral.com, Thu Nov  9 08:07:18 PST 2000)
  (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Mon Mar 20 21:08:56 GMT 2000)
Memory: 262144 k
  Memory: 1048576 k
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
> this line doesn't appear
kernel data=0x3b8a00+0x2a82a syms=[0x8+0x49f200x8+0x34bdb
> this line doesn't appear
modules/ispfw.ko text=0x4f468 data=0x1e0+0x8 syms=[0x8+0x558+0x8+0x1d6]
> this line doesn't appear

Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt.
Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... Booting [kernel]...            

I stop right here with a several minute delay and the messages
> failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1
> device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid

 
Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032f040...

Marc Kaufman
--=====================_6405337==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 10:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9A637B4E5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02494; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:46:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001114102353.00ae8410@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You're still being a bit unclear because you're quoting your mail, but I take it you're claiming that the 'failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1' is indeed after 'Booting [kernel]'. If that's the case, it's after we've loaded the loader. Hmm. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 10:58:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A837B4FE for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA12324 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22507; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G413DZ00.PJG; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:58:47 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001114105537.00ae4e50@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:58:45 -0800 To: mjacob@feral.com From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: AS1200 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20001114102353.00ae8410@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:46 AM 11/14/00 -0800, you wrote: >You're still being a bit unclear because you're quoting your mail, >but I take it you're claiming that the 'failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1' >is indeed after 'Booting [kernel]'. > >If that's the case, it's after we've loaded the loader. Hmm. > >-matt Sorry. I interlined my output with your script. But yes, it's after the loader is loaded (successfully). The error messages are: failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 device dka500.0.1.1 no longer valid [repeated 10 more times] cb_open: failed SCSI 1 1 0 5 500 6000 11000, dka500.5.0.1.1 Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 11: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F28A37B4CF for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vlNO-000E61-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:04:14 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAE77p701345; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:07:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:07:51 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AS1200 Message-ID: <20001114080751.J333@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> <3A109D2E.1A52809B@penix.org> <20001113202514.D5416@freebie.demon.nl> <4.2.2.20001114090718.00adcb70@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001114090718.00adcb70@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com>; from marckauf@Adobe.COM on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 09:13:27AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 09:13:27AM -0800, Marc Kaufman wrote: > Trying to boot from a CD: > > Bootstrap code read in (356 blocks from DKA500.5.0.0.1) > > Get to the message: Booting [kernel]... > After a very long wait (several minutes): > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > device dka500.5.0.1.1 no longer valid > (the above message repeated several times) > > Apropos another message I just read: I think I have a QLogic controller. Same observed on AS4100 this afternoon. I'm not too surprised to see 4100 and 1200 behave the same. I ran 4.1-stable successfully on AS1200 but I had to install onto disk on another machine type. This problem is apparantly still present in 4.2 :-( -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 11: 5:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C845637B4E5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:05:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13vlOj-000E8o-00; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:05:37 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAE79DL01365; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:09:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:09:13 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Marc Kaufman , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AS1200 Message-ID: <20001114080913.K333@freebie.demon.nl> References: <4.2.2.20001114102353.00ae8410@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:46:01AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:46:01AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > You're still being a bit unclear because you're quoting your mail, > but I take it you're claiming that the 'failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1' > is indeed after 'Booting [kernel]'. > > If that's the case, it's after we've loaded the loader. Hmm. It is. This is reproducible on AS4100 as well. I did not capture the SRM transcript, was in a hurry (machine is at work) -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 11: 8:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A6E37B4D7 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02631; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:07:56 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001114105537.00ae4e50@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 10:46 AM 11/14/00 -0800, you wrote: > > >You're still being a bit unclear because you're quoting your mail, > >but I take it you're claiming that the 'failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1' > >is indeed after 'Booting [kernel]'. > > > >If that's the case, it's after we've loaded the loader. Hmm. > > > >-matt > > Sorry. I interlined my output with your script. But yes, it's after > the loader is loaded (successfully). > > The error messages are: > failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1 > device dka500.0.1.1 no longer valid [repeated 10 more times] > > cb_open: failed SCSI 1 1 0 5 500 6000 11000, dka500.5.0.1.1 > > Marc Okay, well, thanks. I don't know what to suggest as yet. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 12: 6:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DE037B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:06:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA78787; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:06:17 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 Message-ID: <20001114120617.A78067@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:15:38AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 10:15:38AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > You *do* say it's at the after the 'Booting [kernel]' message, which means > it's after the boot1 code has loaded the loader? The "Booting [kernel]" message comes up before any disk IO is performed. The same hang will happen if you boot from floppies on an AS4100. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 12:35:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D78837B4C5; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA68433; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:35:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:35:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: John Baldwin Cc: Andre Oppermann , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@feral.com, Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: Does your Alpha run a SMPng kernel? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Ok. This may actually be relevant. :) When I have had mutex bugs in > the past, I've noticed that the atkbd interrupt was using up a lot of > processor time, so there may be a bug in the atkbd code somewhere. -CURRENT from a day ago won't boot on my box without a keyboard being plugged in. Couldn't break to the debugger or anything. Happened after it probed most of the SCSI devices and after it started the second CPU. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 13:18:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3325437B4C5; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAELID701563; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:18:14 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAELID665537; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:18:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 15:18:12 -0600 From: Steve Price To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: kernel boot question Message-ID: <20001114151812.F62344@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This may seem like a strange request but ... I'm trying to rebuild my Alpha box with the latest 4.2RC bits so I can start and new package build with the new libc (with version no. bump). The box is two hours North of here and everyone that is at the office right now is pretty clueless about computers. I updated everything but the box is not coming back up. I either have to figure out how to get it back on its feet remotely or drive 2 hours up there to fix it myself. I talked one of the people through booting it back up with kernel.old so I can get back into the box now. My question is is there a way to seed the boot process try a new (test) kernel once and if it panics then go back to using the regular kernel? So it would go something like this. boot kernel.test panic boot kernel tweak and rebuild new kernel rinse and repeat Thanks. BTW, the last part of the dmesg output looks like this and the only thing I changed in the GENERIC kernel config was 'maxusers 64': Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted panic: kmem_malloc(536887296): kmem_map too small: 5685248 total allocated syncing disks... 8 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up on 3 buffers Uptime: 2m4s Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 14:26:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED5837B4D7; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp245.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.245]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAEMQJB01936; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001114151812.F62344@bonsai.knology.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Steve Price Subject: RE: kernel boot question Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Nov-00 Steve Price wrote: > This may seem like a strange request but ... I'm trying to rebuild > my Alpha box with the latest 4.2RC bits so I can start and new > package build with the new libc (with version no. bump). The box > is two hours North of here and everyone that is at the office right > now is pretty clueless about computers. I updated everything but > the box is not coming back up. I either have to figure out how to > get it back on its feet remotely or drive 2 hours up there to fix > it myself. I talked one of the people through booting it back up > with kernel.old so I can get back into the box now. > > My question is is there a way to seed the boot process try a new > (test) kernel once and if it panics then go back to using the regular > kernel? So it would go something like this. > > boot kernel.test > panic > boot kernel > tweak and rebuild new kernel > rinse and repeat > > Thanks. Don't compile ddb into your test kernel. :) > BTW, the last part of the dmesg output looks like this and the only > thing I changed in the GENERIC kernel config was 'maxusers 64': > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) > da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da1: 8715MB (17850000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1111C) > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted > panic: kmem_malloc(536887296): kmem_map too small: 5685248 total allocated > > syncing disks... 8 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 > giving up on 3 buffers > Uptime: 2m4s > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort > Rebooting... Looks like your mountd is out of sync with your kernel. > -steve -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 14:37:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B395337B4FE for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01884; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAEMaj035741; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:36:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:36:45 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: 4.2RC1 test results on UP1000 X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14865.48427.12936.577788@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 4.2RC1 Installs just fine on a UP1000. X even works with an off-the-cuff config that I spit out when on the phone w/a salescritter. The truely shocking thing is that I installed on a disk that was still warm after being retired from our Tru64 fileserver this afternoon. Yes, that's right, it had a Tru64 disklabel on it. I didn't get the "going nowhere with my init" panic that I was half expecting. This might have something to do with the fact that all the paritions were marked as unused.. And that it had ADVFS on it, prior to being retired, never UFS.. At any rate, the UP1000 gets a thumbs up. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 14:37:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB8B37B4FE; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAEMbi731239; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:37:45 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eAEMbc278051; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:37:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 16:37:38 -0600 From: Steve Price To: John Baldwin Cc: Steve Price , hackers@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: kernel boot question Message-ID: <20001114163738.K62344@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20001114151812.F62344@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:26:49PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:26:49PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: # # > WARNING: / was not properly dismounted # > panic: kmem_malloc(536887296): kmem_map too small: 5685248 total allocated # > # > syncing disks... 8 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 # > giving up on 3 buffers # > Uptime: 2m4s # > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort # > Rebooting... # # Looks like your mountd is out of sync with your kernel. Yep, that was it. Thanks. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 18: 3:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496637B479 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAF23OB07394 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:03:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A similar fix to the i386 fixed a number of problems that phk was seeing with the timecounter as well as performance problems. There is a chance that this will fix some machines that hang during the SCSI/ATA device probes. Also, I am currently working on getting kernels booting on all archs with WITNESS turned on (yes, I haven't gone into hiding). On the alpha the kernel panics because it tries to acquire the malloc mutex when interrupts are disabled during vfsinit(). No spin mutex is held, so that isn't the problem. On the i386, interrupts are enabled at this point, and they should be on the alpha (interrupts are enabled during SI_SUB_CONFIGURE and should stay full on except for within spin mutexes from then on), so it looks like the alpha is disabling interrupts somewhere during the bootup. This may also point to the hangs some people are seeing (on hte PC164's for example). -----FW: <200011150148.RAA57989@freefall.freebsd.org>----- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:48:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org From: John Baldwin To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s jhb 2000/11/14 17:48:49 PST Modified files: sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s Log: Enable all interrupts in switch_trampoline after releasing the sched_lock. This is needed so that kernel threads created before interrupts are enabled do not run with interrupts disabled once the system is up and running. Revision Changes Path 1.18 +3 -1 src/sys/alpha/alpha/swtch.s --------------End of forwarded message------------------------- -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Nov 14 19:20:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-206-90-77.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.206.90.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADCE37B4C5 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAF3QcF01224; Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011150326.eAF3QcF01224@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Marc Kaufman , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS1200 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:46:01 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 19:26:38 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > You're still being a bit unclear because you're quoting your mail, > but I take it you're claiming that the 'failed to send Read to dka500.5.0.1.1' > is indeed after 'Booting [kernel]'. > > If that's the case, it's after we've loaded the loader. Hmm. It's probably happening when the loader goes to read /etc/fstab. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 5:10:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7137B4CF; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 05:10:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13w2Kk-0007GP-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:10:38 +0000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: mjacob@freebsd.org From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:10:38 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.166 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just finished giving 4.2RC1 a try on TurboLaser (8400; 8CPU; 256Mb) Not a lot of luck while booting from CDROM: . . . 256 . . . . . 256MB AlphaServer 8400 8-5/625/4, Console V5.8-2 21-JUL-2000 16:30:31^M SROM V3.1, OpenVMS PALcode V1.21-1, Tru64 UNIX PALcode V1.23-1 System Serial = AY60323611, OS = UNIX, 9:39:50 November 15, 2000 Configuring I/O adapters... isp0, slot 3, bus 0, hose0 kzpaa0, slot 6, bus 0, hose0 isp1, slot 7, bus 0, hose0 tulip0, slot 8, bus 0, hose0 isp2, slot 3, bus 0, hose1 kzpsa0, slot 3, bus 0, hose2 kgpsa0, slot 10, bus 0, hose2 kzpsa1, slot 3, bus 0, hose3 kgpsa1, slot 10, bus 0, hose3 Configuration completed Checking system information P00>>> P00>>> P00>>>sho dev polling for units on isp0, slot 3, bus 0, hose0... pka.7.0.3.0 pka term on Bus ID 7 5.57 polling for units on kzpaa0, slot 6, bus 0, hose0... pkb.7.0.6.0 pkb Bus ID 7 dkb0.0.0.6.0 DKB0 RRD45 1645 polling for units on isp1, slot 7, bus 0, hose0... pkc.7.0.7.0 pkc term on Bus ID 7 5.57 dkc100.1.0.7.0 DKC100 RZ29B 0014 polling for units on isp2, slot 3, bus 0, hose1... pkd.7.0.3.1 pkd term off Bus ID 7 5.57 dkd100.1.0.3.1 DKD100 RZ29B 0014 dkd200.2.0.3.1 DKD200 RZ29B 0014 dkd300.3.0.3.1 DKD300 RZ29B 0014 dkd400.4.0.3.1 DKD400 RZ29B 0014 dkd500.5.0.3.1 DKD500 RZ28D 0008 polling for units on kzpsa0, slot 3, bus 0, hose2... pke.7.0.3.2 pke TPwr 1 Fast 1 Bus ID 7 N01 A12 polling for units on kgpsa0, slot 10, bus 0, hose2... kgpsaa0.0.0.10.2 PGA0 WWN 1000-0000-c921-7fa8 polling for units on kzpsa1, slot 3, bus 0, hose3... pkf.7.0.3.3 pkf TPwr 1 Fast 1 Bus ID 7 N01 A12 polling for units on kgpsa1, slot 10, bus 0, hose3... kgpsab0.0.0.10.3 PGB0 WWN 1000-0000-c921-7ea0 P00>>>sho mem Set Node Size Base Address Intlv Position --- ---- ---- -------- -------- ----- -------- A 5 256 Mb 00000000 00000000 2-Way 0 P00>>>boot dkb0 Initializing... ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.f4.f4.f3.f2.f1.f0. ef.ee.ed.f4. ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5.f4.f4.f3.f2.f1.f0. ef.ee.ed.a2.a4.a5.a7.a8.a9.f4.ec.eb.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.e5.e3. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A . . M . P P P P TYP o . . + . ++ ++ ++ ++ ST1 . . . . . EE EE EE EB BPD o . . + . ++ ++ ++ ++ ST2^M . . . . . EE EE EE EB BPD c3.e2.e0.ce.cd.cb.de.ca.c9.c8.^M ^M^Mc7.c5.c4.c3.dd.dc.db.da.d9.^M + . . + . ++ ++ ++ ++ ST3^M . . . . . EE EE EE EB BPD ++ ++ ++ ++ ST3^M . . . . . EE EE EE EB BPD d8.d7.d6.d5.d4.^M ^M^M^M . . . + + + . . + . . + C0 PCI + . . . . . . . . + . . . C1 PCI + . + . . . . . . + . . . C2 PCI + . + . . . . . . + . . . C3 PCI + . . . A0 . . . . . ILV . . . 256 . . . . . 256MB AlphaServer 8400 8-5/625/4, Console V5.8-2 21-JUL-2000 16:30:31^M SROM V3.1, OpenVMS PALcode V1.21-1, Tru64 UNIX PALcode V1.23-1 System Serial = AY60323611, OS = UNIX, 9:45:05 November 15, 2000 Configuring I/O adapters... isp0, slot 3, bus 0, hose0 kzpaa0, slot 6, bus 0, hose0 isp1, slot 7, bus 0, hose0 tulip0, slot 8, bus 0, hose0 isp2, slot 3, bus 0, hose1 kzpsa0, slot 3, bus 0, hose2 kgpsa0, slot 10, bus 0, hose2 kzpsa1, slot 3, bus 0, hose3 kgpsa1, slot 10, bus 0, hose3 Configuration completed Checking system information CPU 0 booting (boot dkb0.0.0.6.0 -flags a) SRM boot identifier: scsi 0 6 0 0 0 ef00 11000 boot adapter: kzpaa0 rev 2 in bus slot 6 off of kftha0 in TLSB slot 8 block 0 of dkb0.0.0.6.0 is a valid boot block reading 356 blocks from dkb0.0.0.6.0 bootstrap code read in Building FRU table....... FRU table size = 398e(14734) base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1f0000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x10000100010115 OSF PAL rev: 0x10000100020117 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 0.1 (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Mon Mar 20 21:08:56 GMT 2000) Memory: 262144 k |^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^ H\^H|^H/^H-^H> echo \007\007 ^G^G > autoboot 10 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel] in 8 seconds... ^MBooting [k ernel] in 7 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel] in 6 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel] in 5 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel] in 4 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel] in 3 seconds. . ^MBooting [kernel] in 2 seconds... ^MBooting [kernel]... ^M failed to send Read to dkb0.0.0.6.0 device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid cb_open: failed scsi 0 6 0 0 0 ef00 11000, dkb0.0.0.6.0 device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid etc. etc Remarkably similar to AS4100 and AS1200 Booting a pre-installed 4.2-beta is not successful either. [handwritten transcript from console] .. boot succeeds ok... dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) base = 0xb80000000 mask = 0xf80000000 hacked = 0xb80000000 panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address I have no clue what this means, any takers? :-( :-( Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 6:29:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from utep.el.utwente.nl (utep.el.utwente.nl [130.89.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BAD37B4CF for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from tn.utwente.nl (uttnb55.tn.utwente.nl [130.89.74.55]) by utep.el.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04141 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:32:05 +0100 Message-ID: <3A129E2A.EF6AC1E8@tn.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:31:06 +0100 From: "Andrei A. Dergatchev" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > [handwritten transcript from console] > .. boot succeeds ok... > dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) > base = 0xb80000000 > mask = 0xf80000000 > hacked = 0xb80000000 > panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address > > I have no clue what this means, any takers? > > :-( :-( > > Wilko You mean, if it is a bug in ISP driver or with DMA mapping ? Andrei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 6:30:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAB237B661 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14594; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:30:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAFEUF837110; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:30:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:30:14 -0500 (EST) To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14866.39772.756614.268360@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org wkb@freebie.demon.nl writes: > > [handwritten transcript from console] > .. boot succeeds ok... > dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) > base = 0xb80000000 > mask = 0xf80000000 > hacked = 0xb80000000 > panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address > > I have no clue what this means, any takers? > > :-( :-( > > Wilko Yes. We have a grody hack in 4-stable to store off the hose in a memory or i/o address so that the low-level chipset code knows which hose a particular I/O request is for. In this case, the SRM console has assigned a memory address which overlaps the high bits we're using for the hose hack. This means that this particular box won't work until Doug's hose fixes are backported to -stable. (see, for example, the diff between rev 1.14 of sys/alpha/tlsb/dwlpx.c and 1.13.) This box would probably work if you were shuffle hardware around or remove it until it the SRM console happened to not use such a large memory address. BTW, this hack is responsible for the caveat about NCR/Sym controllers only working on the first hose of multi-hose boxes. Sigh. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 6:38:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9939C37B4C5; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAFEcAP02912 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:38:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAFEc2506272; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:38:02 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAFEbvU10185; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:37:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:37:57 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Message-ID: <20001115153756.B10148@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:10:38PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:10:38PM +0000, wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > failed to send Read to dkb0.0.0.6.0 > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid Your CD and drive is OK? I'm not completely shure but I remember that it looked similar if not the same on my PC164 with read errors from the booting CD. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 6:51:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096FE37B479; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 06:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13w3uX-000Az9-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:51:41 +0000 To: Bernd Walter , wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@FreeBSD.ORG From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:51:41 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.166 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CD is OK, it was used to install Tru64. This problem is all too similar to the AS1200 & AS4100 booting issue. Wilko > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 01:10:38PM +0000, wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > > failed to send Read to dkb0.0.0.6.0 > > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > > Your CD and drive is OK? > I'm not completely shure but I remember that it looked similar if not > the same on my PC164 with read errors from the booting CD. > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 8:41:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6747237B4D7 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06099; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:40:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > failed to send Read to dkb0.0.0.6.0 > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid Yatta..... okay.... > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > cb_open: failed scsi 0 6 0 0 0 ef00 11000, dkb0.0.0.6.0 > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > etc. etc > > Remarkably similar to AS4100 and AS1200 > > Booting a pre-installed 4.2-beta is not successful either. > > [handwritten transcript from console] > .. boot succeeds ok... > dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) > base = 0xb80000000 > mask = 0xf80000000 > hacked = 0xb80000000 > panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address > This is the hacked multi-pci bus stuff which didn't get backported to 4.X because it depended on too much else. I should note that 4.2 works fine for me (I haven't cut a CD though) on the Tlaser's at NASA/Ames. This has to do with whether a PCI implementation leaves enough bits at the top of 32 bits for us to store a hose number (dwlpx instance in this case). Sadness. I always knew this was a risk, but hoped we'd squeak by. So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 10: 7:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE2037B4CF; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAFI7ne00210 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:07:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAFI7c507206; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:07:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAFI7bw10370; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:07:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:07:36 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s Message-ID: <20001115190736.A10345@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:03:55PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:03:55PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > A similar fix to the i386 fixed a number of problems that phk was seeing with > the timecounter as well as performance problems. There is a chance that this > will fix some machines that hang during the SCSI/ATA device probes. Also, I am > currently working on getting kernels booting on all archs with WITNESS turned > on (yes, I haven't gone into hiding). On the alpha the kernel panics because > it tries to acquire the malloc mutex when interrupts are disabled during > vfsinit(). No spin mutex is held, so that isn't the problem. On the i386, > interrupts are enabled at this point, and they should be on the alpha > (interrupts are enabled during SI_SUB_CONFIGURE and should stay full on except > for within spin mutexes from then on), so it looks like the alpha is disabling > interrupts somewhere during the bootup. This may also point to the hangs some > people are seeing (on hte PC164's for example). Sorry - It doesn't change anything on the hanging problem with my PC164. What I see with KTR is not that the hardware ints are missing but the threads stop to run. With KTR it stops always working when the first level irq came in which needs to disable the source. It seems to come further without KTR which may be a timing thing because the console output is seriel and limited to 9600. The masking of the irq itself works. And I'm still getting clock ints and the swi clock thread is still scheduled. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 10: 8:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8AE37B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13w6zJ-000HGr-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:08:49 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAF6CSA01880; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:12:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 07:12:28 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Message-ID: <20001115071228.C1321@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14866.39772.756614.268360@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14866.39772.756614.268360@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:30:14AM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:30:14AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > wkb@freebie.demon.nl writes: > > > > [handwritten transcript from console] > > .. boot succeeds ok... > > dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) > > base = 0xb80000000 > > mask = 0xf80000000 > > hacked = 0xb80000000 > > panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address > > > > I have no clue what this means, any takers? > > > > :-( :-( > > > > Wilko > > Yes. We have a grody hack in 4-stable to store off the hose in a > memory or i/o address so that the low-level chipset code knows which > hose a particular I/O request is for. In this case, the SRM console > has assigned a memory address which overlaps the high bits we're using > for the hose hack. This means that this particular box won't work > until Doug's hose fixes are backported to -stable. (see, for example, > the diff between rev 1.14 of sys/alpha/tlsb/dwlpx.c and 1.13.) > > This box would probably work if you were shuffle hardware around or > remove it until it the SRM console happened to not use such a large > memory address. > > BTW, this hack is responsible for the caveat about NCR/Sym controllers > only working on the first hose of multi-hose boxes. Right. Me calling it hose-d was right on the spot then. I'm gonna request jkh's permission to put this in RELNOTES. I don't think this will be fixed in 4.2R right? W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 10:36: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A92037B479; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06454; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:35:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:35:56 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Bernd Walter Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s In-Reply-To: <20001115190736.A10345@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > needs to disable the source. It seems to come further without KTR which may > be a timing thing because the console output is seriel and limited to 9600. > The masking of the irq itself works. > And I'm still getting clock ints and the swi clock thread is still scheduled. really? that doesn't happen for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11: 2:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B80737B4CF for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13w7p2-000IJI-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:02:16 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAF75sc02804; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:05:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:05:54 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Message-ID: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:40:50AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:40:50AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > failed to send Read to dkb0.0.0.6.0 > > device dkb0.0.0.6.0 no longer valid > > Yatta..... Rather: Yikes.. > > Booting a pre-installed 4.2-beta is not successful either. > > > > [handwritten transcript from console] > > .. boot succeeds ok... > > dwlpx0 (DWLPA PCI at kft0 hose0) > > base = 0xb80000000 > > mask = 0xf80000000 > > hacked = 0xb80000000 > > panic: hose encoding hack would clobber base address > > > > This is the hacked multi-pci bus stuff which didn't get backported > to 4.X because it depended on too much else. > > I should note that 4.2 works fine for me (I haven't cut a CD though) on > the Tlaser's at NASA/Ames. This has to do with whether a PCI implementation > leaves enough bits at the top of 32 bits for us to store a hose number > (dwlpx instance in this case). > > Sadness. I always knew this was a risk, but hoped we'd squeak by. Ah, this was mentioned to me before, but I never saw it in real life. Our Tlaser is not around long enough in our lab for me to have seen it before. > So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko I guess machines like ES40 , DS20 would require this to be straightened out as well? W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1785F37B4CF for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06666; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:09:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser In-Reply-To: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > > boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko Hey. Wanna hat? > > I guess machines like ES40 , DS20 would require this to be straightened out as > well? Yup., To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:13: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCFB37B4CF; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAFJCff05688 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:12:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAFJCX507421; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:12:33 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAFJCWw10447; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:12:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:12:31 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Jacob Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha swtch.s Message-ID: <20001115201231.A10411@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001115190736.A10345@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 10:35:56AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 10:35:56AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > needs to disable the source. It seems to come further without KTR which may > > be a timing thing because the console output is seriel and limited to 9600. > > The masking of the irq itself works. > > And I'm still getting clock ints and the swi clock thread is still scheduled. > > really? that doesn't happen for me. For explaining - I have changed some points: I removed the trace in the clock int. I exchanged the texts for the swi clock thread (pid 12). That was neccessary because the thread run longer than it take to get the next schedule with big texts. , means scheduling pid 12 . means running pid 12 (for loop in sithd_loop) .d means pid 12 sithd_loop done .l means pid 12 sithd_loop (while loop in sithd_loop) .r means pid 12 sithd_loop resumed Sometimes I'm getting the irq of sym0 and sometimes I get an int from sym0 and sym1 but after that neither the swi clock nor one of the sym ithreads is running... The fact that the clock swi is still scheduled means that the clock int must be still working. The disabling of the sym ints work because if I remove them it gets refired at once like it should. Without ktr I usually see errors from some scsi drives that don't understand some probing commands. The errors itselfes are OK because cam falls back to a traditional mode but it tells me that it hangs later. I wonder if it may have something to do with the keyboard driver which was noticed as problematic on i386 recently. I have no keyboard plugged in but still compiled the driver into the kernel. As you can see the probing fails. I also wonder how the mutexes like Giant and sched_lock can work from int mode. AFAIK the int itself doesn't have a context of it's own. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Setting atkbd 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting atkbd 0 irq to 1 (int) Setting atkbdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting atkbdc 0 port to 96 (int) Setting fd 0 at to fdc0 (string) Setting fd 0 drive to 0 (int) Setting fdc 0 at to isa (string) Setting fdc 0 drq to 2 (int) Setting fdc 0 irq to 6 (int) Setting fdc 0 port to 1008 (int) Setting mcclock 0 at to isa (string) Setting mcclock 0 port to 112 (int) Setting ppc 0 at to isa (string) Setting ppc 0 irq to 7 (int) Setting psm 0 at to atkbdc (string) Setting psm 0 irq to 12 (int) Setting sc 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 at to isa (string) Setting sio 0 irq to 4 (int) Setting sio 0 port to 1016 (int) Setting sio 1 at to isa (string) Setting sio 1 flags to 80 (int) Setting sio 1 irq to 3 (int) Setting sio 1 port to 760 (int) Setting vga 0 at to isa (string) malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for lockmgr interlock FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Tue Nov 14 00:21:58 CET 2000 ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2000-11-10/src/sys/compile/CICELY9 EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory = 265904128 (259672K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x006b8000 - 0x0ff0dfff, 260399104 bytes (31787 pages) avail memory = 252960768 (247032K bytes) malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for buftime lock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for eventhandler malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for shutdown_final malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for shutdown_post_sync Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.ko" at 0xfffffc0000698000. malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for mbuf free list lock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for mcluster free list lock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for m_ext counter free list lock malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for sf_bufs list lock null: malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for random reseed malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for random harvest random: mem: malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for dev_clone cia0: <2117x Core Logic chipset> cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: physical bus=0 found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x000c, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=5, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=2 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010200, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82031200, size 8, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 82030000, size 12, enabled found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x23 bus=0, slot=6, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=0 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010100, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82031100, size 8, enabled found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x12 bus=0, slot=7, func=0 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=1 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010000, size 8, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82031000, size 8, enabled found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x43 bus=0, slot=8, func=0 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x9055, revid=0x30 bus=0, slot=9, func=0 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=3 map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010300, size 7, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82031300, size 7, enabled found-> vendor=0x1095, dev=0x0646, revid=0x01 bus=0, slot=11, func=0 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=5 map[20]: type 4, range 32, base 00010380, size 4, enabled pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <895> port 0x10200-0x102ff mem 0x82030000-0x82030fff,0x82031200-0x820312ff irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 242 msec, 36728 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 230 msec, 38644 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 231 msec, 38477 KHz sym0: chip clock is 38477KHz sym0: clock multiplier assumed sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 07/4e/80/01/08/24 sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 285 msec, 31187 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 285 msec, 31187 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 285 msec, 31187 KHz sym0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 sym0: enabling clock multiplier sym0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS. sym1: <810a> port 0x10100-0x101ff mem 0x82031100-0x820311ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym1: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/ce/a0/01/00/00 sym1: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/ce/a0/01/08/00 sym1: Delay (GEN=11): 284 msec, 31296 KHz sym1: Delay (GEN=11): 286 msec, 31078 KHz sym1: Delay (GEN=11): 285 msec, 31187 KHz sym1: interrupting at CIA irq 0 sym2: <810a> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82031000-0x820310ff irq 1 at device 7.0 on pci0 sym2: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym2: open drain IRQ line driver sym2: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym2: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 sym2: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/ce/a0/01/08/00 sym2: Delay (GEN=11): 284 msec, 31296 KHz sym2: Delay (GEN=11): 286 msec, 31078 KHz sym2: Delay (GEN=11): 285 msec, 31187 KHz sym2: interrupting at CIA irq 1 isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 Bus Modes: Bus Park, Resource Lock, Configuration RAM: 0C00h,0800h-08FFh Port 92: enabled isa0: on isab0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x10300-0x1037f mem 0x82031300-0x8203137f irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 malloc'ing mtx_debug while cold for xl0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:30:1c:1a xl0: media options word: a xl0: found MII/AUTO miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: xl0 attached atapci0: port 0x10380-0x1038f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0x10380 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0: devices = 0x1 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata0: interrupting at ISA irq 14 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0x10388 ata1: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata1: probe allocation failed Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices atkbdc0 failed to probe at port 0x60 on isa0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 500005456 Hz (firmware 500000000 Hz) i8254 clock: 1191970 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency ppc0 failed to probe at irq 7 on isa0 sc0 failed to probe on isa0 sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x50 on isa0 vga0 failed to probe on isa0 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices sched_ithd pid 23(intr: fdc0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 23 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 500005456 Hz bpf, sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 : lo0 attached , , ithd_loop pid 23(insched_ithd pid, , 22(intr: ata0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 22 tr: fdc0) need=1 ithd_loop pid 23, , ih=0xfffffe00008f56c0: 0xfffffc000056b020(0xfffffe0000566740) flg=2 ithd_loop pid 23: done ithd_loop pid 22(intr: ata0) need=1 ithd_loop pid 22 ih=0xfffffe00008f5dc0: 0xfffffc000056b020(0xfffffe0000566980) flg=2 ithd_loop pid 22: done .l . .d sch, sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 ed_ithd pid 22(intr: ata, , 0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 22 ithd_loop pid 22: resumed ithd_loop pid 22(intr: ata0) need=1 ithd_loop pid, , 22 ih=0xfffffe00008f5dc0: 0xfffffc000056b020(0xfffffe0000566980) flg=2 ithd_loop pid 22: done .r .l . .d sche, sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 d_ithd, , pid 22(intr: ata0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 22 ithd_loop pid 22: resumed ithd_loop pid 22(intr: ata0) need=1 ithd_loop pid 2, , 2 ih=0xfffffe00008f5dc0: 0xfffffc000056b020(0xfffffe0000566980) flg=2 ithd_loop pid 22: done .r .l . .d sch, sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 ed_ithd pid 22(intr: ata0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 22 ata0-master: success setting WDMA2 on CMD chip Cre, , ating DISK ad0 ad0: ATA-0 disk at ata0-master , , ad0: 1219MB (2496816 sectors), 2477 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: 1 secs/int, 1 depth queue, W, , DM, , A2 ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 cblid=0 ad0: 1219MB [2477/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. sym0: enabling clock multiplier sym0: Downloading SCSI, , SCRIPTS. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym2:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. ithd_loop pid 22: resumed ithd_loop pid 22(intr: ata0) need=1 ithd_loop pid 22 ih=0xfffffe00008f5dc0: 0xfffffc000056b020(0xfffffe0000566980) flg=2 ithd_loop pid 22: done .r .l . .d , sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 .r .l . .d , sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 .r .l . .d , sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 .r .l . .d , sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 [...] sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 , , , , .r .l . .d sche, sched_ithd: setrunqueue 12 d, , _ithd pid 18(intr: sym0) need=0 alpha_dispatch_intr: setrunqueue 18 alpha_dispatch_intr: disabling vector 0x920 , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , [... and so on ...] -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:14:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A323737B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13w80f-00010h-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:14:17 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAF7Hu703260; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:17:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:17:56 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Message-ID: <20001115081756.C3059@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:09:01AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:09:01AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > > > boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > > > Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > > Hey. Wanna hat? Not a red one. I already brought a greenish/brown Stetson-clone from the US once ;) > > > > I guess machines like ES40 , DS20 would require this to be straightened out as > > well? > > Yup., I was afraid of that.. Does BSDi still have the DS20? I lack any test reports on that model. David? John? W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:20:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A8537B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAFJK8B28343; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001115081756.C3059@freebie.demon.nl> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:47 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Jacob Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Nov-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:09:01AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> > > So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of >> > > the >> > > boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. >> > >> > Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko >> >> Hey. Wanna hat? > > Not a red one. I already brought a greenish/brown Stetson-clone from the US > once ;) > >> > >> > I guess machines like ES40 , DS20 would require this to be straightened >> > out as >> > well? >> >> Yup., > > I was afraid of that.. Does BSDi still have the DS20? I lack any test > reports on that model. David? John? The DS20 is David's workstation here @ work. It is running -current fine right now (AFAIK), but I don't think a 4.2 RC has been tried on it. > W/ -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:20:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1A237B4C5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA00620 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20160; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G42Z2100.QEM; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:25 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:20:24 -0800 To: Wilko Bulte , Matthew Jacob From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the >> boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. >Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko Should I wait around for 4.3 or just go get Linux, which does boot on an AS1200? (I really have a preference for FreeBSD if there is any hope) Marc Kaufman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:25:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFC337B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA21094; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAFJPTi37724; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:25:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:25:29 -0500 (EST) To: "Marc Kaufman" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> References: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14866.57941.961166.64076@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc Kaufman writes: > >> So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > >> boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > >Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > > Should I wait around for 4.3 or just go get Linux, which does boot > on an AS1200? (I really have a preference for FreeBSD if there is > any hope) Can you try the following work-around: Go get the 4.0-RELEASE boot floppy. Mount it. Copy off /boot/loader Mount the 4.2 floppy. Replace /boot/loader with the one from 4.0. Attempt booting your 1200. Is there any improvement? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:27:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9674937B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06772; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:27:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:27:01 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote: > >> So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > >> boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > >Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > > Should I wait around for 4.3 or just go get Linux, which does boot > on an AS1200? (I really have a preference for FreeBSD if there is > any hope) Well, no, once you get installed you *should* be fine :-). If you have the ability, on a separate system, to dd the boot.flp (kern.flp && mfsroot.flp in one 3MB image) onto the first sectors of the disk you'd install on the AS1200, you can try that as an install path. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:30:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E3137B4C5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06789; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:28:53 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:28:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try Drew's suggestion too. On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, Marc Kaufman wrote: > > > >> So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > > >> boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > > > >Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > > > > Should I wait around for 4.3 or just go get Linux, which does boot > > on an AS1200? (I really have a preference for FreeBSD if there is > > any hope) > > Well, no, once you get installed you *should* be fine :-). If you have the > ability, on a separate system, to dd the boot.flp (kern.flp && mfsroot.flp in > one 3MB image) onto the first sectors of the disk you'd install on the AS1200, > you can try that as an install path. > > -matt > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:44: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32ED637B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13w8TS-0001Z6-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:44:02 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAF7lfk04110; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:47:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:47:41 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Marc Kaufman Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 Message-ID: <20001115084741.B3972@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com>; from marckauf@adobe.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:20:24AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:20:24AM -0800, Marc Kaufman wrote: > >> So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of the > >> boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > > >Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > > Should I wait around for 4.3 or just go get Linux, which does boot > on an AS1200? (I really have a preference for FreeBSD if there is > any hope) Well, if you have any way to install on another machine and carry the freshly installed disk to the AS1200 that would most likely work. It did when I tried 4.1R. Mind you: this stinks no end, I agree. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:45:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5509137B479; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13w8Up-0001bj-00; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:45:27 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAF7n5K04188; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:49:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:49:05 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin , obrien@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on Tlaser Message-ID: <20001115084905.C3972@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001115081756.C3059@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@freebsd.org on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:20:47AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:20:47AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 15-Nov-00 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 11:09:01AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >> > >> > > So, basically, a large number of alphas will not work in 4.X because of > >> > > the > >> > > boot issues (which nobody really understands) and the hose stuff. Crap. > >> > > >> > Yep. There are quite some 'red' machine types on www.freebsd.org/~wilko > >> > >> Hey. Wanna hat? > > > > Not a red one. I already brought a greenish/brown Stetson-clone from the US > > once ;) > > > >> > > >> > I guess machines like ES40 , DS20 would require this to be straightened > >> > out as > >> > well? > >> > >> Yup., > > > > I was afraid of that.. Does BSDi still have the DS20? I lack any test > > reports on that model. David? John? > > The DS20 is David's workstation here @ work. It is running -current fine right > now (AFAIK), but I don't think a 4.2 RC has been tried on it. David, any chance you can at least try a boot of RC1? If I had a DS20 close by I'd try myself but.. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 11:45:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE1F37B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03329 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27805; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G4308E00.7GT; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:45:50 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:45:50 -0800 To: Andrew Gallatin From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS1200 Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <14866.57941.961166.64076@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> <20001115080554.A2707@freebie.demon.nl> <4.2.2.20001115111706.00aee970@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:25 PM 11/15/00 -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >Can you try the following work-around: >Go get the 4.0-RELEASE boot floppy. Mount it. Copy off /boot/loader >Mount the 4.2 floppy. Replace /boot/loader with the one from 4.0. >Attempt booting your 1200. Is there any improvement? I started some time ago by getting the 4.0 Release CD. I could not boot either from the CD directly, or from the 4.0 floppies. Same symptoms as with 4.2. I will try Matthew Jacob's suggestion if I can and get back to you all. > If you have the > ability, on a separate system, to dd the boot.flp (kern.flp && mfsroot.flp in > one 3MB image) onto the first sectors of the disk you'd install on the AS1200, > you can try that as an install path. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 12:30:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nt01.mercantec.com (mercantec.mercantec.com [205.243.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50FE37B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by nt01.merc.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:30:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:30:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Jacob [mailto:mjacob@feral.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 10:39 AM > To: McKinley, Rob > Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' > Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, McKinley, Rob wrote: > > > It's the standard Symbios (810?) adapter. Let me know if you need more > > info. > > Not the same PR then (whew). > > If you have any dmesg output that might correlate, that would be of > inestimable help. > > -matt > Matt, et al., Dmesg output below is from the resulting installed system. I need to pick up a working serial cable this evening to boot it from a console to get the boot messages when booting off the CDROM/floppies. The CDROM is a Plextor 12x SCSI. I double checked termination on the scsi chain and all seems well there. I did note that after a buildworld, when I shut it down a show dev at the SRM prompt only showed the hard drive, no CDROM, even though I had the CDROM mounted during the buildworld. My guess at this point is that during the beginning of sysinstall (and possibly during normal running), the CDROM device is getting dropped as a valid device (similar to the thread about the AS1200 getting read errors on the hard drive early on in boot sequence?). The SRM is the updated version from the Tru64 5.0 kit, so I could try moving it back a rev or two. As an aside, if I leave the Tru64 5 disk on the chain I get the dreaded "going nowhere without my init" panic. ***************** Start of AS200/233 dmesg ************************* Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 148930560 (145440K bytes) avail memory = 138436608 (135192K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82810000-0x828100ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82810100-0x8281017f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:20:60:e2 pci0: at 13.0 irq 10 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 233319268 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling 10baseT port Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 2048MB (4194304 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present cd9660: RockRidge Extension To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 15:59:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (virtual.valuelinx.net [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6AE37B4CF for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8819.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.3]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA32237 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:57:46 GMT Message-ID: <3A13207A.4F892F44@penix.org> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:47:06 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I am a little bored and I was just thinking. Knowing already that the adaptec cards will install but not boot, would it be possible If I paired the scsi disk up with the ide disk being "/" and the scsi being say /usr & swap will this work, or should I put my screwdriver away and play with something else. danke. -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 16: 2:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1A037B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07689; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:02:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:02:12 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question. In-Reply-To: <3A13207A.4F892F44@penix.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi. > > I am a little bored and I was just thinking. Knowing already that the > adaptec cards will install but not boot, would it be possible If I > paired the scsi disk up with the ide disk being "/" and the scsi being > say /usr & swap will this work, or should I put my screwdriver away and > play with something else. Sure. But a whole root/usr on IDE will be fine too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 17:19:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD79337B479 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07999; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:19:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 17:19:33 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the 4100 won't boot. Amazing. Really porked. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Nov 15 19:33: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C734D37B4C5 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08210 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:33:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: at least one 4.2 success story :-) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AlphaStation 500 or 600 (KN20AA) Digital AlphaStation 600 5/333, 333MHz installed no problem from floppies -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 7: 9:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3481A37B479; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09673; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGF9UQ39575; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:09:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:09:30 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: jhb@freebsd.org Subject: SMPng stability X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update your sources and try a new kernel. It is admittedly a bit early to tell, but I cannot make my UP1000 loose its network adapter anymore. Yesterday I could induce 'fxp0: device timeout' by running gdb on a kernel.debug mounted via NFS. I'm going to see if my home miata will survive a buildworld/installworld tonight; it was always the real problem child... Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 8:31:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08F437B4D7 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 13wRwf-00013e-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:31:29 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGGV1P08029 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:31:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SMPng stability Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS > working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge > anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update > your sources and try a new kernel. > > Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. Well... It didn't get stuck while probing for SCSI devices. It actually booted into single user mode. Just to do something from there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box within five seconds or so. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 8:35:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6D437B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11649; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGGZOU39735; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:24 -0500 (EST) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMPng stability In-Reply-To: <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS > > working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge > > anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update > > your sources and try a new kernel. > > > > Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. > > Well... It didn't get stuck while probing for SCSI devices. It > actually booted into single user mode. Just to do something from Hurray!!! > there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box > within five seconds or so. Do you have: options DDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options MUTEX_DEBUG options WITNESS options WITNESS_DDB In your config file? If not, can you try a kernel with those options? Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 8:39:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A35C37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21877 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:38:50 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2RC1 happy install on AS200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AlphaStation 200 4/100 - 32Mb RAM - 1Gb HD - RRD43 external CD Installation had no probs from CD. My AS200 had no floppy, so I threw one in but it doesn't seem to want to work, so I can't verify floppy installation. dmesg output attached: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/100, 100MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV4 (21064) major=2 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 31506432 (30768K bytes) avail memory = 24657920 (24080K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82810000-0x828100ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82810100-0x8281017f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 08:00:2b:e5:de:69 pci0: at 13.0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 100060704 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling 10baseT port da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 1001MB (2050860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.166MB/s transfers (4.166MHz, offset 8) cd0: cd present [389472 x 512 byte records] Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a -Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 8:40:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7115837B4D7; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGGdsT16493 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:39:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGGdl511644; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:39:47 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGGdh411774; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:39:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:39:43 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMPng stability Message-ID: <20001116173943.B11712@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 10:09:30AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 10:09:30AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS > working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge > anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update > your sources and try a new kernel. > > It is admittedly a bit early to tell, but I cannot make my UP1000 > loose its network adapter anymore. Yesterday I could induce 'fxp0: > device timeout' by running gdb on a kernel.debug mounted via NFS. I'm > going to see if my home miata will survive a buildworld/installworld > tonight; it was always the real problem child... > > Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. Unfortunately no - at least not for me :( -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 8:41:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0020A37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 08:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22859 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:40:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:40:43 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: DHCP broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in both cases). Can anyone help? Related output from messages: Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol family Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers -Shawn -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:13:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAABD37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25619 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:13:18 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: How to boot from floppy? Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, it's a lame question, but I can't remember any more how to boot from a floppy on the Alpha. What is the device name? "Show device" lists the 2 SCSI hard drives, the SCSI CD-ROM, an Ethernet card, the SCSI controller, and "dva0" which I don't recognize. I tried "boot dva0", but that just timed out. The SRM "documentation" is as usual nearly worthless. Thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:19:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C92537B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10409; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:19:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:19:47 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Dmesg output below is from the resulting installed system. I need to pick > up a working serial cable this evening to boot it from a console to get the > boot messages when booting off the CDROM/floppies. The CDROM is a Plextor > 12x SCSI. I double checked termination on the scsi chain and all seems well > there. I did note that after a buildworld, when I shut it down a show dev > at the SRM prompt only showed the hard drive, no CDROM, even though I had > the CDROM mounted during the buildworld. My guess at this point is that > during the beginning of sysinstall (and possibly during normal running), the > CDROM device is getting dropped as a valid device (similar to the thread > about the AS1200 getting read errors on the hard drive early on in boot > sequence?). > The SRM is the updated version from the Tru64 5.0 kit, so I could try moving > it back a rev or two. The dmesg you sent shows no errors. I'm still trying to figure out where precisely the CDROM seems to go away. Sigh. > > As an aside, if I leave the Tru64 5 disk on the chain I get the dreaded > "going nowhere without my init" panic. Yes, this still seems to be here. Something is reading the wrong disks's root filesystem. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:22:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C0037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGHMNj21596 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:22:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGHMG511820; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:22:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGHMCO11831; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:22:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:22:12 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMPng stability Message-ID: <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:35:24AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:35:24AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Christian Weisgerber writes: > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS > > > working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge > > > anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update > > > your sources and try a new kernel. > > > > > > Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. > > > > Well... It didn't get stuck while probing for SCSI devices. It > > actually booted into single user mode. Just to do something from > > Hurray!!! Christians box always booted into single user mode if I remember right. I asume it has something to do with the number of controllers/disks that he has more luck. It takes longer than 5 seconds for my SCSI probing ;) > > > there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box > > within five seconds or so. > > Do you have: > > options DDB > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER > options MUTEX_DEBUG > options WITNESS > options WITNESS_DDB > > In your config file? If not, can you try a kernel with those > options? Use the latest source. John had commited something related WITNESS today. I got a panic early in the boot which I asume is fixed with his commit: [...] isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 500004746 Hz bpf: lo0 attached ../../kern/kern_synch.c:608: sleeping with "Giant" locked from ../../kern/init_main.c:392 witness_sleep Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: ldq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffc00006739f0> -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE6B37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:24:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12791; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGHOS139852; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:24:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:24:28 -0500 (EST) To: sko@eth0.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DHCP broken? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.6006.689718.940301@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sko@eth0.net writes: > > I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same > problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in > both cases). Can anyone help? > > Related output from messages: > Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected > Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol > family > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 > 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers I cannot duplicate the panic on a 4.2RC1 system here. I see everything but the panic. According to nm -n on the 4.2RC1 kernel, it is: fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir fffffc00005bcc80 t swi_net fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir So it looks like swi_net is trying to schedule a null swi. Ick. What happens if you start dhclient on just the interface you want to run it on (eg, not lo0, which is somewhat nonsensical anyway..) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:32:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E003E37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13131; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGHWrR39883; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:32:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:32:53 -0500 (EST) To: Bernd Walter Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMPng stability In-Reply-To: <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.6549.513864.420865@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter writes: > > Christians box always booted into single user mode if I remember right. > I asume it has something to do with the number of controllers/disks that > he has more luck. > It takes longer than 5 seconds for my SCSI probing ;) I did not know this; I had thought all pc164 boxes were toast. Do we know the exact differences between your box and Christian's? <...> > > Use the latest source. > John had commited something related WITNESS today. I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Do you have everything up to and including rev 1.108 of src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c? And do you still panic on boot? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:45: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EF437B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25808 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGHj3H48725; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:45:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:45:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011161745.eAGHj3H48725@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Re: How to boot from floppy? In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , John Polstra wrote: > OK, it's a lame question, but I can't remember any more how to boot > from a floppy on the Alpha. What is the device name? "Show device" > lists the 2 SCSI hard drives, the SCSI CD-ROM, an Ethernet card, the > SCSI controller, and "dva0" which I don't recognize. I tried "boot > dva0", but that just timed out. Thanks to those who answered. The floppy device is indeed "dva0". One of the connectors had come unseated. It works now. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 9:47:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7312D37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGHlMj24441 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:47:24 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGHlC511918; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:47:16 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGHlCw11875; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:47:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:47:12 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMPng stability Message-ID: <20001116184711.A11857@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> <14868.6549.513864.420865@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14868.6549.513864.420865@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Bernd Walter writes: > > > > Christians box always booted into single user mode if I remember right. > > I asume it has something to do with the number of controllers/disks that > > he has more luck. > > It takes longer than 5 seconds for my SCSI probing ;) > > I did not know this; I had thought all pc164 boxes were toast. > Do we know the exact differences between your box and Christian's? I have a PC164 at 500MHz with an xl Netcard, 3 sym controllers (2x810a 1x895) and an ide disk. Of course several scsi disks and one cdrom. Seriel console at 9600. It has 256M RAM - I tested both 4x64M and 8x32M SIMMs as I had the chance to exchange it during the test phase. AFAIK Christian has at least one sym controller and is using vga console. I don't know anything else about it. What I will try next is plugging a keyboard in and I will setting up an IDE only kernel to see if any of these make a difference. > > <...> > > > > Use the latest source. > > John had commited something related WITNESS today. > > > I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. > > Do you have everything up to and including rev 1.108 of > src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c? And do you still panic on boot? No I have 1.105 which was the latest this morning. What I wanted to say is that 1.108 might run and it's not worth compiling with an older version. I hadn't the time to check 1.108. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:13: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nt01.mercantec.com (mercantec.mercantec.com [205.243.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF53C37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by nt01.merc.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:13:05 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'mjacob@feral.com'" , "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:13:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, without a serial connection I couldn't get the boot messages to show when it's broken (unless anyone knows of a way to get dmesg output from the emergency shell available from sysinstall). I didn't have time to get it last night either, so I'll try again tonight. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Jacob [mailto:mjacob@feral.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:20 AM > To: McKinley, Rob > Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' > Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > > > > > > Dmesg output below is from the resulting installed system. > I need to pick > > up a working serial cable this evening to boot it from a > console to get the > > boot messages when booting off the CDROM/floppies. The > CDROM is a Plextor > > 12x SCSI. I double checked termination on the scsi chain > and all seems well > > there. I did note that after a buildworld, when I shut it > down a show dev > > at the SRM prompt only showed the hard drive, no CDROM, > even though I had > > the CDROM mounted during the buildworld. My guess at this > point is that > > during the beginning of sysinstall (and possibly during > normal running), the > > CDROM device is getting dropped as a valid device (similar > to the thread > > about the AS1200 getting read errors on the hard drive > early on in boot > > sequence?). > > The SRM is the updated version from the Tru64 5.0 kit, so I > could try moving > > it back a rev or two. > > The dmesg you sent shows no errors. I'm still trying to > figure out where > precisely the CDROM seems to go away. Sigh. > > > > > As an aside, if I leave the Tru64 5 disk on the chain I get > the dreaded > > "going nowhere without my init" panic. > > Yes, this still seems to be here. Something is reading the > wrong disks's root > filesystem. > > > -matt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:20:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D5D37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGIKHe27515 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:20:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGIK7512043; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:20:11 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGIK7U11959; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:20:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:20:07 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Message-ID: <20001116192006.A11940@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> <14868.6549.513864.420865@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116184711.A11857@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001116184711.A11857@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:47:12PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:47:12PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > What I will try next is plugging a keyboard in and I will setting up > an IDE only kernel to see if any of these make a difference. Just for the record: I tried an IDE only kernel and it booted fine into single user mode. It even survived an fsck -n on that drive. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:28: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B9437B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18410; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:27:19 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:27:18 -0500 (EST) From: "O'Shea. Shawn" X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: sko@eth0.net, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: loader issues... will get back to Re: DHCP broken? In-Reply-To: <14868.6006.689718.940301@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So I figure, "Well I ifconfig'ed the device manually, let me get a fresh reboot, and then i'll dhclient just de0". So I did a reboot and now i get "Can't open file /boot/loader". I tried doing a reinstall with the same result. I remember seeing a thread on here about loader problems but dont remember what resolution there was... -Shawn On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > sko@eth0.net writes: > > > > I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same > > problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in > > both cases). Can anyone help? > > > > Related output from messages: > > Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected > > Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol > > family > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 > > 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers > > I cannot duplicate the panic on a 4.2RC1 system here. I see everything but the panic. > > According to nm -n on the 4.2RC1 kernel, it is: > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > fffffc00005bcc80 t swi_net > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > > So it looks like swi_net is trying to schedule a null swi. > Ick. > > What happens if you start dhclient on just the interface you want to > run it on (eg, not lo0, which is somewhat nonsensical anyway..) > > Drew > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:32: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3049637B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGIVpe28472 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:31:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGIVf512058; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:31:45 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGIVfx11992; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:31:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:31:40 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Message-ID: <20001116193140.A11969@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> <14868.6549.513864.420865@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116184711.A11857@cicely8.cicely.de> <20001116192006.A11940@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001116192006.A11940@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 07:20:07PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 07:20:07PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:47:12PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > What I will try next is plugging a keyboard in and I will setting up > > an IDE only kernel to see if any of these make a difference. > > Just for the record: > I tried an IDE only kernel and it booted fine into single user mode. > It even survived an fsck -n on that drive. But making some load on the network interface hang it in a rather short time. I realy has something to do wether you are using a device with a level triggered int for which you have to disable the source. The IDE interface does not need to disable the int source. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:36:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D8A37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13wTtE-0002dq-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:36:04 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAG6dkM01306; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:39:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:39:46 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to boot from floppy? Message-ID: <20001116073946.C319@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jdp@polstra.com on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 09:13:18AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 09:13:18AM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > OK, it's a lame question, but I can't remember any more how to boot > from a floppy on the Alpha. What is the device name? "Show device" > lists the 2 SCSI hard drives, the SCSI CD-ROM, an Ethernet card, the > SCSI controller, and "dva0" which I don't recognize. I tried "boot dva0 is the floppy > dva0", but that just timed out. The SRM "documentation" is as usual > nearly worthless. boot dva0 should do it yes. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:36:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09A537B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26031; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:36:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:36:48 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried the RC1 boot floppies on this machine: EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164LX 533 MHz, 531MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000200020117 real memory = 132046848 (128952K bytes) avail memory = 123183104 (120296K bytes) but it wouldn't boot from them. It loaded /boot/loader OK and got this far (copying by hand from the screen): FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0 (root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com, Thu Nov 9 07:30:33 GMT 2000) Memory: 131072 k - halted CPU 0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = 200000000 >>> Actually the behavior varies. Another time it did this: Loading /boot/loader Can't open file /boot/loader halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = 20000038 >>> I think it is a failure to initialize something. If I first boot up -current from my hard drive and then try booting from the floppy without powering down the machine, the floppy works fine and gets me to the installation menu. But when I try to boot a freshly powered machine from the floppy, it fails. (I haven't tried this very many times, but that seems to be the pattern.) I would urge everybody who has tested RC1 to try it again on a freshly powered-up machine! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:49:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BE337B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10881; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:49:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuck. I actually don't have any PC164s with a floppy to try. Based on what I've seen so far with both -current and 4.2, I believe that our boot loader is not interacting well with SRM- and this will take a while to fix. Can you try the non-floppy method? -matt > I tried the RC1 boot floppies on this machine: > > EB164 > Digital AlphaPC 164LX 533 MHz, 531MHz > 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. > CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000200020117 > real memory = 132046848 (128952K bytes) > avail memory = 123183104 (120296K bytes) > > but it wouldn't boot from them. It loaded /boot/loader OK and got > this far (copying by hand from the screen): > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0 > (root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com, Thu Nov 9 07:30:33 GMT 2000) > Memory: 131072 k > - > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 200000000 > >>> > > Actually the behavior varies. Another time it did this: > > Loading /boot/loader > Can't open file /boot/loader > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 5 > HALT instruction executed > PC = 20000038 > >>> > > I think it is a failure to initialize something. If I first boot > up -current from my hard drive and then try booting from the floppy > without powering down the machine, the floppy works fine and gets me > to the installation menu. But when I try to boot a freshly powered > machine from the floppy, it fails. (I haven't tried this very many > times, but that seems to be the pattern.) > > I would urge everybody who has tested RC1 to try it again on a > freshly powered-up machine! > > John > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 10:56:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7437B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26122; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:56:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGIue348925; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:56:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:56:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011161856.eAGIue348925@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Matthew Jacob wrote: > I actually don't have any PC164s with a floppy to try. > > Based on what I've seen so far with both -current and 4.2, I believe > that our boot loader is not interacting well with SRM- and this will > take a while to fix. > > Can you try the non-floppy method? I can't use the ISO image because my link is too slow to download it and I don't have a CD burner. I could probably try to netboot it if somebody gave me step-by-step instructions. I've never netbooted anything before. A question: if the floppy had read errors, would they be detected and reported? I.e., is it worthwhile to try a different diskette? John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11: 0:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1131037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:00:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10927; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:00:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:00:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <200011161856.eAGIue348925@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I can't use the ISO image because my link is too slow to download it > and I don't have a CD burner. > > I could probably try to netboot it if somebody gave me step-by-step > instructions. I've never netbooted anything before. > > A question: if the floppy had read errors, would they be detected > and reported? I.e., is it worthwhile to try a different diskette? No, SRM does complain about bad diskettes. At least the Multia one does all the time. What I had been thinking of is taking boot.flp and copying all 3MB to the head of a SCSI or IDE disk and booting that on your 164LX. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11: 4:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BD937B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26215; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:04:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGJ4Mf48976; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:04:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:04:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011161904.eAGJ4Mf48976@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > A question: if the floppy had read errors, would they be detected > > and reported? I.e., is it worthwhile to try a different diskette? > > No, SRM does complain about bad diskettes. At least the Multia one does all > the time. But does /boot/loader complain about read errors after it gets control? > What I had been thinking of is taking boot.flp and copying all 3MB > to the head of a SCSI or IDE disk and booting that on your 164LX. Hrm, I'd love to help but I don't think I can take it quite that far. :-( John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11: 6:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95E0D37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15669; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGJ6Ge40019; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:06:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:06:16 -0500 (EST) To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.11544.99413.861465@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Polstra writes: > I tried the RC1 boot floppies on this machine: <...> > I think it is a failure to initialize something. If I first boot > up -current from my hard drive and then try booting from the floppy > without powering down the machine, the floppy works fine and gets me > to the installation menu. But when I try to boot a freshly powered > machine from the floppy, it fails. (I haven't tried this very many > times, but that seems to be the pattern.) Alphas don't zero their memory on reboot like PCs do, so a fresh power up would certainly leave the machine in a different state. > I would urge everybody who has tested RC1 to try it again on a > freshly powered-up machine! I can report that an AS500 5/266 boots both the floppy and CD fine when freshly powered up: Digital AlphaStation 500/266 Console V6.7-2 built on Jan 19 1998 at 14:53:02 As does an AS200 4/166: V6.7-2, built on Jan 20 1998 at 09:56:27 Maybe it is firmware version dependant? I'll try a cold boot of my UP1000 after it finishes a buildworld, it is rather finicky when it comes to the loader. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:10:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E08837B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26271; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGJAhu49041; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011161910.eAGJAhu49041@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <14868.11544.99413.861465@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <14868.11544.99413.861465@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <14868.11544.99413.861465@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Maybe it is firmware version dependant? Could be. I upgraded my SRM a few months ago when I installed Tru64 on a second disk. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:13:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051E337B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:13:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11035; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:13:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <200011161904.eAGJ4Mf48976@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In article , > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > A question: if the floppy had read errors, would they be detected > > > and reported? I.e., is it worthwhile to try a different diskette? > > > > No, SRM does complain about bad diskettes. At least the Multia one does all > > the time. > > But does /boot/loader complain about read errors after it gets > control? No- but it calls back into SRM, and SRM should complain to the console. > > > What I had been thinking of is taking boot.flp and copying all 3MB > > to the head of a SCSI or IDE disk and booting that on your 164LX. > > Hrm, I'd love to help but I don't think I can take it quite that far. > :-( Okay. Whatever you can do. We suck right now. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:35:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F10B37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26452; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGJZVL49143; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:35:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011161935.eAGJZVL49143@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > What I had been thinking of is taking boot.flp and copying all 3MB > > > to the head of a SCSI or IDE disk and booting that on your 164LX. > > > > Hrm, I'd love to help but I don't think I can take it quite that far. > > :-( > > Okay. Whatever you can do. We suck right now. I don't know whether this is useful info or not, but the -stable from Oct. 31 which is installed on my hard drive boots fine using -current's loader. "Huh?" OK, I have a dual boot setup with -current on da0a and -stable on da0f. So when I boot, -current's loader always gets control. Then I can make it boot -stable like this: unload set currdev=disk0f boot /kernel That works reliably. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:36:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A57B37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11123; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:36:44 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:36:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <200011161935.eAGJZVL49143@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Polstra wrote: > In article , > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > What I had been thinking of is taking boot.flp and copying all 3MB > > > > to the head of a SCSI or IDE disk and booting that on your 164LX. > > > > > > Hrm, I'd love to help but I don't think I can take it quite that far. > > > :-( > > > > Okay. Whatever you can do. We suck right now. > > I don't know whether this is useful info or not, but the -stable > from Oct. 31 which is installed on my hard drive boots fine using > -current's loader. "Huh?" OK, I have a dual boot setup with -current > on da0a and -stable on da0f. So when I boot, -current's loader always > gets control. Then I can make it boot -stable like this: > > unload > set currdev=disk0f > boot /kernel > > That works reliably. Hmm. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:41:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0D037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11149; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:41:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:41:34 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <200011161935.eAGJZVL49143@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I'll take a swack at backporting Doug's alpha fixes. This may be of some help for here. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CC037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGJnlB64715; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SMPng stability Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS >> working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge >> anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update >> your sources and try a new kernel. >> >> Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. > > Well... It didn't get stuck while probing for SCSI devices. It > actually booted into single user mode. Just to do something from > there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box > within five seconds or so. Can you stick DDB in your kernel and break into DDB and get a backtrace when it hangs? Also, for the record, can you capture the 'ps' output as well as the output of 'x/x,10 Giant' and 'x/x,10 sched_lock'. Note that ddb is quirky, and you might have to do 'x Giant' before the 'x/x,10' to get it to actually examine Giant and the same for sched_lock. Doing this over serial console would probably make your life a lot easier. :-P -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:50:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0343937B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGJnlB64707; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: Re: SMPng stability Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Christian Weisgerber , Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: >> > there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box >> > within five seconds or so. >> >> Do you have: >> >> options DDB >> options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER >> options MUTEX_DEBUG >> options WITNESS >> options WITNESS_DDB >> >> In your config file? If not, can you try a kernel with those >> options? > > Use the latest source. > John had commited something related WITNESS today. > I got a panic early in the boot which I asume is fixed with his commit: > > [...] > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "alpha" frequency 500004746 Hz > bpf: lo0 attached > ../../kern/kern_synch.c:608: sleeping with "Giant" locked from > ../../kern/init_main.c:392 > witness_sleep > Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: ldq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffc00006739f0> > This was fixed by the last commit that pushed Giant out of mi_switch(). -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:50:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0BB37B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGJnlB64711; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:49:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001116193140.A11969@cicely8.cicely.de> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:25 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Christian Weisgerber , Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 07:20:07PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:47:12PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: >> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> > What I will try next is plugging a keyboard in and I will setting up >> > an IDE only kernel to see if any of these make a difference. >> >> Just for the record: >> I tried an IDE only kernel and it booted fine into single user mode. >> It even survived an fsck -n on that drive. > > But making some load on the network interface hang it in a rather short > time. > I realy has something to do wether you are using a device with a level > triggered int for which you have to disable the source. > The IDE interface does not need to disable the int source. All the PCI devices on most alphas (rawhide's excluded AFAIK) are level-triggered. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:50:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9150437B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGJnjB64703; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: SMPng stability Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, (Christian Weisgerber) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Christian Weisgerber writes: > > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > John Baldwin's most recent commits (the ones leading up to WITNESS > > > working) seem to have improved the stability SMPng on alpha. I'd urge > > > anybody who is having -current stability problems on alpha to update > > > your sources and try a new kernel. > > > > > > Heck, this might even help the PC164 situation.. > > > > Well... It didn't get stuck while probing for SCSI devices. It > > actually booted into single user mode. Just to do something from > > Hurray!!! > > > there I started an fsck of a scratch partition, wedging the box > > within five seconds or so. > > Do you have: > > options DDB > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER > options MUTEX_DEBUG > options WITNESS > options WITNESS_DDB > > In your config file? If not, can you try a kernel with those > options? Hmm, I would add in 'INVARIANTS' and 'INVARIANT_SUPPORT' but wouldn't put in WITNESS_DDB yet. :) > Thanks, > > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 11:51:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394CF37B479; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11195; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:51:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Baldwin Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Christian Weisgerber , Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 16-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 07:20:07PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 06:47:12PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > >> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:32:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> > What I will try next is plugging a keyboard in and I will setting up > >> > an IDE only kernel to see if any of these make a difference. > >> > >> Just for the record: > >> I tried an IDE only kernel and it booted fine into single user mode. > >> It even survived an fsck -n on that drive. > > > > But making some load on the network interface hang it in a rather short > > time. > > I realy has something to do wether you are using a device with a level > > triggered int for which you have to disable the source. > > The IDE interface does not need to disable the int source. > > All the PCI devices on most alphas (rawhide's excluded AFAIK) are tlaser really, and only because of packetization. Rawhide is level. > level-triggered. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:10:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADAC37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17447; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGKAbF40123; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:10:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:10:37 -0500 (EST) To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.16038.414664.940850@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fyi, my normally finicky UP1000 cold-boots 4.2RC1 just fine, both from floppy and CD. Firmware is: API UP1000 598 MHz Console A5.6-4.1-9, Apr 13 2000 21:54:16 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:20:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F3537B479; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGKKp608027 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:20:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGKKi512503; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:20:44 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGKKe512115; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:20:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:20:40 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Christian Weisgerber , Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Message-ID: <20001116212040.A12094@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001116193140.A11969@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:50:25AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:50:25AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > All the PCI devices on most alphas (rawhide's excluded AFAIK) are > level-triggered. The standard IDE channels use ISA irq channels instead of PCI. And they behave exactly like edge triggered lines. Finally the kernel has registered them as edged. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:31:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E802537B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 13wVgh-0003X3-02; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:31:15 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGK9JQ01408 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:09:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SMPng stability Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8v1etf$vl$2@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Do you have: > > options DDB > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER > options MUTEX_DEBUG > options WITNESS > options WITNESS_DDB I do now. GENERIC plus the options above. Which don't make any difference. The box will lock up on its way into single user mode or, if it manages to get that far, eventually during a disk access in single user mode. ddb is _not_ triggered. Once the box is wedged, I can't break into ddb anymore. At least HALT still works. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:31:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AA037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 13wVgh-0003X3-01; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:31:15 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGK0Ol01022 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:00:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SMPng stability Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8v1eco$vl$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <14867.63252.979175.633781@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8v1245$7d8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <14868.3077.993148.862591@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20001116182212.A11802@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > Christians box always booted into single user mode if I remember right. Sorry, I shouldn't post the result from a single test run. Some further experimenting shows that my box behaves the same way it has for weeks. It grinds to a halt eventually. This may be still during the "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle", or when init attempts to spawn the shell, or finally in single user mode during a disk access. > I asume it has something to do with the number of controllers/disks that > he has more luck. > It takes longer than 5 seconds for my SCSI probing ;) Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Nov 16 19:43:41 CET 2000 naddy@kemoauc.mips.inka.de:/home/naddy/src/sys/compile/SMPNG EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory = 265904128 (259672K bytes) avail memory = 251494400 (245600K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.new" at 0xfffffc00007fe000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: <2117x Core Logic chipset> cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x10200-0x1023f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:97:4b:1a:b9 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto sym0: <810a> port 0x10100-0x101ff mem 0x82835100-0x828351ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at CIA irq 0 sym1: <875> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82834000-0x82834fff,0x82835000-0x828350ff irq 1 at device 7.0 on pci0 sym1: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking sym1: interrupting at CIA irq 1 isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 9.0 irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10240-0x1024f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: flags 0x10000 irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499993888 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at sym0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da1 at sym1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4146MB (8491920 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 528C) cd0 at sym1 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da0 at sym1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 16, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:54:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C64137B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGKsBB66477; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8v1etf$vl$2@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SMPng stability Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> Do you have: >> >> options DDB >> options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER >> options MUTEX_DEBUG >> options WITNESS >> options WITNESS_DDB > > I do now. GENERIC plus the options above. Which don't make any > difference. The box will lock up on its way into single user mode > or, if it manages to get that far, eventually during a disk access > in single user mode. ddb is _not_ triggered. > > Once the box is wedged, I can't break into ddb anymore. At least > HALT still works. Alright. Try this: First, add the following to your kernel config: options KTR options KTR_EXTEND options KTR_COMPILE="(KTR_PROC|KTR_INTR|KTR_LOCK)" options KTR_MASK="(KTR_PROC|KTR_INTR)" options KTR_ENTRIES=16384 Boot into single-user mode, then run the following commands: # sysctl -w debug.ktr_verbose=1 ; command_that_will_reliably_crash_my_machine ; sysctl -w debug.ktr_verbose=0 Hmm, it might be easier to just make a /crash.sh shell script containing all these commands (once ktr_verbose is on, you probably won't be able to type the commands in without going insane, hence have a shell script that turns it off for you). -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 12:55:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BBB37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAGKsAB66473; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001116212040.A12094@cicely8.cicely.de> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 12:54:48 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Cc: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 16-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:50:25AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> All the PCI devices on most alphas (rawhide's excluded AFAIK) are >> level-triggered. > > The standard IDE channels use ISA irq channels instead of PCI. > And they behave exactly like edge triggered lines. > Finally the kernel has registered them as edged. I meant to say PCI interrupts, which almost all PCI devices except for ATA controllers and USB controllers use. :-P PCI NIC's would be a good example. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 13:11:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2EE37B479; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAGLBaZ11855 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:11:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAGLBQ512731; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:11:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAGLBQd12229; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:11:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:11:25 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: John Baldwin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Message-ID: <20001116221125.A12204@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001116212040.A12094@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:54:48PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 12:54:48PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 16-Nov-00 Bernd Walter wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:50:25AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > >> All the PCI devices on most alphas (rawhide's excluded AFAIK) are > >> level-triggered. > > > > The standard IDE channels use ISA irq channels instead of PCI. > > And they behave exactly like edge triggered lines. > > Finally the kernel has registered them as edged. > > I meant to say PCI interrupts, which almost all PCI devices except for ATA > controllers and USB controllers use. :-P PCI NIC's would be a good example. Yes - it did not realy surprised me that the NIC hang the host. But it showed me some points: 1. I was able to send and receive some packets (not many) before it hang 2. It behaves similar to what Christian was seeing in that it hang in single user mode. 3. It is for shure not SCSI related - at least not only. 4. It only happens when disabling the ints - at least it seems to be the only real difference between ata and sym/xl. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 13:51: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EDD37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13wWvq-00073K-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:50:59 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAG9sfP02261; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:54:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:54:41 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: John Polstra , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX Message-ID: <20001116105441.D1772@freebie.demon.nl> References: <200011161935.eAGJZVL49143@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:41:34AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:41:34AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I think I'll take a swack at backporting Doug's alpha fixes. This may be of > some help for here. Hmm. 'Groan' summarises it for 4.2RC1 on alpha I guess :-( -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 13:51: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9498937B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13wWvv-00073X-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:51:03 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAG9rUv02251; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:53:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:53:30 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: John Polstra , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX Message-ID: <20001116105330.C1772@freebie.demon.nl> References: <200011161856.eAGIue348925@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:00:34AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 11:00:34AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > I can't use the ISO image because my link is too slow to download it > > and I don't have a CD burner. > > > > I could probably try to netboot it if somebody gave me step-by-step > > instructions. I've never netbooted anything before. > > > > A question: if the floppy had read errors, would they be detected > > and reported? I.e., is it worthwhile to try a different diskette? > > No, SRM does complain about bad diskettes. At least the Multia one does all > the time. If you have a Multia doing that please try the SRM version I once found somewhere on the Net and that works with floppies ;-) See ftp://www.tcja.nl/pub/wilko It solved my Multia's complaints. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 13:55:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4C337B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA73171; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:55:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 Message-ID: <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something > between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the > 4100 won't boot. I don't understand what you're saying. I have never been able to boot an AS4100 from floppies or CDROM. I tried both -current and -stable floppies of the time (2-3 months ago?). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 13:57:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B442237B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20927 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAGLvnJ40399; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:57:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:57:48 -0500 (EST) To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.22567.792093.882640@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something > > between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the > > 4100 won't boot. > > I don't understand what you're saying. I have never been able to boot an > AS4100 from floppies or CDROM. I tried both -current and -stable > floppies of the time (2-3 months ago?). He is saying that if you dd the image onto a scsi disk; then try to boot that disk it freezes. This used to work in 4.1 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14: 1:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5908237B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13wX6K-0002MA-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:01:48 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAGA5TX02400; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:05:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:05:29 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "David O'Brien" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 Message-ID: <20001116110529.F1772@freebie.demon.nl> References: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something between 4.1 > && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the 4100 won't boot. Parse error.. In my experience 4.1R and 4.2RC1 both experience the same (from the looks of it) boot errors for CDROM or floppy alike. Or am I misreading you? -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14: 2:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C302E37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13wX6p-0007HJ-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 22:02:19 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAGA61J02415; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:06:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:06:01 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 Message-ID: <20001116110601.G1772@freebie.demon.nl> References: <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> <14868.22567.792093.882640@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <14868.22567.792093.882640@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:57:48PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:57:48PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David O'Brien writes: > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something > > > between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the > > > 4100 won't boot. > > > > I don't understand what you're saying. I have never been able to boot an > > AS4100 from floppies or CDROM. I tried both -current and -stable > > floppies of the time (2-3 months ago?). > > He is saying that if you dd the image onto a scsi disk; then try to > boot that disk it freezes. This used to work in 4.1 Ah. Never tried that. -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:13:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8C937B479; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11925; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:13:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:13:18 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At some point David O'Brien wrote, but it's hard to tell because he set's his reply-to so inclusions aren't easy. > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something > > between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the > > 4100 won't boot. > > I don't understand what you're saying. I have never been able to boot an > AS4100 from floppies or CDROM. I tried both -current and -stable > floppies of the time (2-3 months ago?). You might not remember that in the work I did for 4.1 that the reason I didn't have problems is that I just dd'd boot.flp to a disk and booted that (rather than go through the hell of finding a floppy drive I could cut new floppies on- I have 5-10 that are all in disrepair and don't make readable floppies). -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:15:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E3037B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11941; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:15:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:15:07 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <20001116110601.G1772@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:57:48PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > David O'Brien writes: > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:19:33PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Interesting. Now, we knew that floppies were broken, but something > > > > between 4.1 && 4.2 broke so that now the boot.flp image freezes and the > > > > 4100 won't boot. > > > > > > I don't understand what you're saying. I have never been able to boot an > > > AS4100 from floppies or CDROM. I tried both -current and -stable > > > floppies of the time (2-3 months ago?). > > > > He is saying that if you dd the image onto a scsi disk; then try to > > boot that disk it freezes. This used to work in 4.1 > > Ah. Never tried that. > That's what I checked with- I didn't think about actually trying to check floppies. My bad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:20:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1310A37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11966 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:20:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: [4.2] new kern.flp to try Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1136674726-1497552467-974413255=:9657" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1136674726-1497552467-974413255=:9657 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've backported the larger heap area and stack from -current to the 4.2 loader- it can be picked up from http://www.people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/kern.flp.fixed If you'd like to try it. I power-cycled an XP1000 and booted it. 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Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11978 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:21:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:21:52 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [4.2] new kern.flp to try ARGH In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ap > > I've backported the larger heap area and stack from -current to the 4.2 > loader- it can be picked up from > > http://www.people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/kern.flp.fixed http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/kern.flp.fixed > > If you'd like to try it. I power-cycled an XP1000 and booted it. Unfortunately > I'm 40 miles away from the machine yesterday that wouldn't boot so I can't yet > confirm it fixes anything. > > -matt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:25: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0358037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA28724 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13831; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G4529R00.5E1 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:25:03 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001116141915.00ae1310@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:25:04 -0800 To: alpha@freebsd.org From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <20001116110601.G1772@freebie.demon.nl> References: <14868.22567.792093.882640@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <4.2.2.20001115114025.00af7c10@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> <20001116135514.A72650@dragon.nuxi.com> <14868.22567.792093.882640@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:06 AM 11/16/00 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: >On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:57:48PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> He is saying that if you dd the image onto a scsi disk; then try to >> boot that disk it freezes. This used to work in 4.1 >Ah. Never tried that. I have a new scsi disk on order to try with the AS1200, but from the sound of it I will not have much luck. Marc Kaufman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:27: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7DE37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12005; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:27:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:27:02 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001116141915.00ae1310@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 11:06 AM 11/16/00 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:57:48PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> He is saying that if you dd the image onto a scsi disk; then try to > >> boot that disk it freezes. This used to work in 4.1 > > >Ah. Never tried that. > > I have a new scsi disk on order to try with the AS1200, but from the sound > of it I will not have much luck. Try the new kern.flp I just sent out about? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:36:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF58237B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27468; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:36:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAGMaHo49538; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:36:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011162236.eAGMaHo49538@vashon.polstra.com> To: alpha@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , Matthew Jacob wrote: > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Polstra wrote: > > > I don't know whether this is useful info or not, but the -stable > > from Oct. 31 which is installed on my hard drive boots fine using > > -current's loader. "Huh?" OK, I have a dual boot setup with -current > > on da0a and -stable on da0f. So when I boot, -current's loader always > > gets control. Then I can make it boot -stable like this: > > > > unload > > set currdev=disk0f > > boot /kernel > > > > That works reliably. > > Hmm. I'm starting to think my whole failure report should be viewed with doubt. I have just now successfully used the RC1 floppy 3 times in a row, each time after a powered-off period of a minute or more. The diskette media is a bit suspect. After writing the kern.flp image initially, I checked it with "dd < /dev/rfd0 | cmp - kern.flp" and got a read error. (This was not on the Alpha machine.) I reformatted the diskette and it seemed OK after that. But it may be a bit flaky. I understand that the SRM is supposed to complain about media errors, but I'd believe it more if I had ever seen it happen with my own two eyes. (Sorry, that's why I'm a programmer.) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 14:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB53437B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12057; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:37:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 14:37:45 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Polstra Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2-RC1 failure on 164LX In-Reply-To: <200011162236.eAGMaHo49538@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There have been enough other reports of failures to believe that it's not just unreported-by-SRM media errors that are occurring. > In article , > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, John Polstra wrote: > > > > > I don't know whether this is useful info or not, but the -stable > > > from Oct. 31 which is installed on my hard drive boots fine using > > > -current's loader. "Huh?" OK, I have a dual boot setup with -current > > > on da0a and -stable on da0f. So when I boot, -current's loader always > > > gets control. Then I can make it boot -stable like this: > > > > > > unload > > > set currdev=disk0f > > > boot /kernel > > > > > > That works reliably. > > > > Hmm. > > I'm starting to think my whole failure report should be viewed with > doubt. I have just now successfully used the RC1 floppy 3 times in > a row, each time after a powered-off period of a minute or more. > > The diskette media is a bit suspect. After writing the kern.flp image > initially, I checked it with "dd < /dev/rfd0 | cmp - kern.flp" and got > a read error. (This was not on the Alpha machine.) I reformatted the > diskette and it seemed OK after that. But it may be a bit flaky. I > understand that the SRM is supposed to complain about media errors, > but I'd believe it more if I had ever seen it happen with my own two > eyes. (Sorry, that's why I'm a programmer.) > > John > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 15:41:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-2.adobe.com [192.150.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B0837B4FE for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-1.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.51]) by smtp-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA10384 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22618; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G455TP00.TJB; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:41:49 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001116154016.00aeaeb0@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:41:50 -0800 To: mjacob@feral.com From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20001116141915.00ae1310@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:27 PM 11/16/00 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: >Try the new kern.flp I just sent out about? Just tried it on the AS1200. It hangs right after the banner and the line: Memory: 1048576 k It looks like it's trying to read the floppy, but otherwise doing nothing. Marc Kaufman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 15:44:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DE237B4CF for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12314; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:44:25 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:44:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Marc Kaufman Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2RC1 hosed on AS4100 In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20001116154016.00aeaeb0@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So much for that theory then. > At 02:27 PM 11/16/00 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >Try the new kern.flp I just sent out about? > > Just tried it on the AS1200. It hangs right after the banner and > the line: Memory: 1048576 k > > It looks like it's trying to read the floppy, but otherwise doing > nothing. > > Marc Kaufman > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 16:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (unknown [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93C837B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8819.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.3]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA15706 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:15:35 GMT Message-ID: <3A147626.BCC34B7F@penix.org> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:04:54 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha PC164, #two. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8BEFC13EFE99DB9BA139A7D2" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8BEFC13EFE99DB9BA139A7D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI! I just re-installed 4.2RC#1 because I have no life and nothing better to do. Anyway, take a look at this output, anyone wanna give me a hint on what is going on? The only thing I changed from the first install was to add that quantum drive and card. Note: I did not modify this output in any way. -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Public Key available here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/dp.txt ============================================================================ --------------8BEFC13EFE99DB9BA139A7D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="dmesg.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.out" \^B\^B\^A\^B\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A@\^A\^BB\^B\^B\^B\^C\^BB\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B\^C\= ^B\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^C\^C\^A\^C\^C\^B\^C\^A\^B\^B\^H\^C\^B\^B\^= A\^C\^P\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^C\^C\^B\^B\^A\^A\^B\^B\^A\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^C\^B\^= B\^A\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A\^C\^C\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^BB\^= A\^B\^P\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^A"\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A\^BB\^B"\^A\^B\^B\^C= \^C\^A \^B\^B\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B \^B\^C\^C\^C\^A\^B\^B\^B\^B\^B\^A\^P\^C= \^B\^C\^B\^C\^C\^B\^A@\^A\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^H\^C\^B\^BB\^A\^A\^A\= ^B\^A\^B\^B\^C\^C\^A\^B\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^BB\^A\^B\^C\^B= \^C\^CB\M^@\^C\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A@\^A\^H\^C\^C"\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B= \^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^B\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^A\^B\= ^B\^C\^A@\^A!\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^B\^A\^A\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^= B\^B\^B\^A\^A\^C\^A\^B\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^B= B\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^A\^B\^A\^B\^A\^C\^A\^A\^BB\^H\^C"\^A\^B\^B\^B\= ^C\^C\^B\^B\^C\^A\^H\^C\^B\^C\^B\^D\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^= A\^B\^C\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A@\^A\^P\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^H\^C\^C\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^A\^A\= ^B\^C\^A\^B\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A\^B\^C\^B\^A\^B\^C\^B\^CB\^B\^C\^B= \M^@\^A\^B\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^B\^BB\^B\M^@\^C\^B\^B\^C\^P\^C\^B\^C\= ^B\^B\^B\^A\^B\^H\^B\^B\^A\^C\^A@\^A\^B\^C\^C\^B"\^B\^B\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B= \^D\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^D\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\= ^A\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^C\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^A\^A\^B\^B\^A\^C\^B\^A\^B\^B\^B\^B\^= A\^B\^A\^A\^B\^A\^C\^B\^A\^B\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^= B\^BB\^A\^B\^A\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^B\^C\^A"\^A\^B\^B\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\= ^A\^A\^B\^A\^B\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A\^B\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B \^B\^B\^A\^B\^B\^B\^B\^B\= ^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^C\^C\^C\^A\^B\^C\^A\^A\^B\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A@\^A\^C\^B\^C\= ^H\^C\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^A\^A\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^B\^A\^B\^A\^A\= ^A\^B\^P\^A\^C\^C\^B\^A\^B\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B@\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^BB\^B\^A\^C= \^B\^B\^CB\^B\^C\^B\^C\^A\^B\^A\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A@\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^A\^B\^= A\^B\^C\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^A\^B\^B\^B\^B\^C\^B\^C\^H\^C\^B\^C\^C\^A\^C\^C\^B= \^B\^C\^C\^A\^A\^B\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^A\^A\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B= \^A\^A\^B\^B\^A\^H\^C\^B\M^@\^A\^B\^B\^C\^B\^A\^C\^P\^A\^H\^C\^A\^B\^C\^B= \^C\^C\^C\^B\^C\^B\^C\^B\^B\^C\^B\^B\^B\^B\^BB\^AUnrecognized boot flag '= 0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=3D7 minor=3D2 extensions=3D0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 56303616 (54984K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:a0:dc:2e\^Hxl0: selecting 10baseT transce= iver, half duplex isab0: at device :.0 on pci0 ksa0: on isab0 a\^T\M-q\M-b\M^J\M-9!@3?\^HA\M-{s\M-[\^A/\M-N\^H\M-@\^D\M-/7\^Pn\M-\\^A\M= -k\M-o@\M^U\M-k\M-+c!\M-n\M-B\^L}\M-{\M-q\M-r>\M-{\M-}\^A\^O\M-a\M-g\M-+\= M-#\M-?\M-r\^T\M-$\M-u~\^L\M-n\M-_\240\^Bmem 0x82030000-0x82030fff irq 3 = at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 1x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atcpci1 atc1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: interruptkng at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enaboed,!8 bytes threshond fe0: <1443-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic"PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0= sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499999560 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direat Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 510 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C)\^HWARNING: / was = not properly dismounted Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' vo stop...stopped= Wakting (max 60 seconds) for s{steo process `synces' to stop...stopped syncing disks... = done Uptime:"1m52s Rebooting... Unrecognized boot flcg '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988,"1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Tje Rggents of the University of Californka. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0:#Thu#Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/comrile/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte"page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV76 (21164A) major=3D7 minos=3D2 exteosions=3D0{1 OSF QAL sev: 0x1000800020117 real meoor{! =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 56303616 (54984K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk cia1: AMCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: exvendgd capabilitkes: 21 pcib0: <2117x"PC\M-I!host bus adaptes> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0:"<3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f isq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:a0:dc:2e xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82= 030000-0x82030fff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 prm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0z3c0-0x3gf iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff"on ksa0= \^Ksc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA >16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x202> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isc0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting av ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc2: at post 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generkc chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at"ISA!irq 7 ahc0: Someone reset channel A Timecounter "alpha"" fbgquency 500000220 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63]"at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata3-slave using PIO4 Wcitiog 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from wfs:/dev/ad0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `buddaemon' to stop...stopped= Waitilg (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... = done Uptime: 2m47s Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 12:09:00 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=3D7 minor=3D2 extensions=3D0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 54632448 (53352K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc000091a000. Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc000091a0a0. md0: Preloaded image 2949120 bytes at 0xfffffc0000646cb0 md1: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2- pass 3 cia3: e{tended capabilities: 21 pcib2: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA!irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00;50:04:a0:dc:2e xl0: selgcting 11baseT transceiver, half"duplex ksab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff"mem!0x82= 030000-0x82030fff irq 3#at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Singne Cjannel A. SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: >NEC)72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 krq 7 drq 2 on isa0= gdc0: inverrupting at ISC irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 byves threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0= sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. ppc0: ilterrupting at IQA irq 7 ahc0: Smmeone reset channel A Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499998960 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds dor SCSI devices"to settoe Eountkng soot#from ufs:/dev/md0c da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) WARNING: clock lost 22 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! /mnt/usr:"optimization changed from TIME vo SPACE /mnt/usr: optimization changed from SPACE to TIME Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped= Waiting *max 60 seconds) for!system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing \M-eisks... = done Uqtime: 22h1m31s (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): . CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): error code 0 Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright!(c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 19)3, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the Universivy og California. Alo rights resgrved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=3D7 minor=3D2 extensions=3D0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 56303616 (54984K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:a0:dc:2e xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0\^Hahc0: po= rt 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82030000-0x82030fff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170"irq 15 on atapck0 fec08" av port 0y3f0-0x3f5,0:3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: ct port 0x60,0x64 on"isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA"irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: #at qort!0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0pa0030-0{bffef on isa0= sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupuing at ISA irq 6 sio1: reserved#for#low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3cc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 prc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE+ in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 ahc0: Someone reset channel A Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499999740 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) Waiting (max 60Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=3D7 minor=3D2 extensions=3D0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 56303616 (54984K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:a0:dc:2e xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82= 030000-0x82030fff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0= sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499999140 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped= Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 3 2 = done Uptime: 5m37s (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 = (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalid command operation code Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RC1 #0: Thu Nov 9 10:37:30 GMT 2000 root@rawhide.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=3D7 minor=3D2 extensions=3D0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory =3D 64577536 (63064K bytes) avail memory =3D 56303616 (54984K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000764000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82031000-0= x8203107f irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:a0:dc:2e xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82= 030000-0x82030fff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=3D7, 3/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 atapci0: port 0x10180-0x1018f irq 5 at device 11= =2E0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0= sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 ahc0: Someone reset channel A Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499999080 Hz ad0: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 521MB [1060/16/63] at ata0-slave PIO3 acd0: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2051000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined --------------8BEFC13EFE99DB9BA139A7D2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 16:22: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C16037B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12406; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:21:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:21:26 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha PC164, #two. In-Reply-To: <3A147626.BCC34B7F@penix.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. I'm a bit unclear on what you've done. Where's your root supposed to be? What did you add? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 16:41:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from virtual.valuelinx.net (virtual.valuelinx.net [208.189.209.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8764937B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from penix.org (ppp8819.on.bellglobal.com [207.236.126.3]) by virtual.valuelinx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA16054; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:52 GMT Message-ID: <3A147B9B.C200E0C1@penix.org> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 19:28:11 -0500 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha PC164, #two. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Hmm. I'm a bit unclear on what you've done. Where's your root supposed to be? > What did you add? [07:22pm]-root@dissent# cat fs.out Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0a 992239 42874 869986 5% / /dev/da0e 299163 1 275229 0% /home /dev/ad0e 1006351 512010 413833 55% /usr /dev/ad1e 517631 168 476053 0% /var procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc Did you notice all of the strange characters in the dmesg output? not to mention tons of words mispelled. It makes no sense. also, near the end of that output, (which was a single `dmesg >dmesg.out`) there is some info on da0: syncing disks... 3 2 done Uptime: 5m37s (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalid command operation code Unrecognized boot flag '0'. ...confused.... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Brute force is the last resort of the incompetent. 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Garcia irmag@inkjetfills.com www.inkjetfills.com Ph#512-219-9800 Fx# 512-219-1198 Toll Free: 888-4 ALBAAT http://www.inkjetfills.com/free.html ALBAAT INKJET FILLS 12129 North Highway 620 #540 Austin, Texas 78750 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 16:54: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC35F37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12482; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:53:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 16:53:26 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha PC164, #two. In-Reply-To: <3A147B9B.C200E0C1@penix.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Got me on this one, other than somebody was using this beast for linux at one point. > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Hmm. I'm a bit unclear on what you've done. Where's your root supposed to be? > > What did you add? > > [07:22pm]-root@dissent# cat fs.out > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0a 992239 42874 869986 5% / > /dev/da0e 299163 1 275229 0% /home > /dev/ad0e 1006351 512010 413833 55% /usr > /dev/ad1e 517631 168 476053 0% /var > procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc > > Did you notice all of the strange characters in the dmesg output? not to > mention tons of words mispelled. > It makes no sense. also, near the end of that output, (which was a > single `dmesg >dmesg.out`) there is some info on da0: > syncing disks... 3 2 > done > Uptime: 5m37s > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): SYNCHRONIZE CACHE. CDB: 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:20,0 > (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): Invalid command operation code > Unrecognized boot flag '0'. > > ...confused.... > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 17:12:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB67B37B4C5 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25446; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAH1Ccv40746; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:12:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 20:12:38 -0500 (EST) To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha PC164, #two. In-Reply-To: <3A147626.BCC34B7F@penix.org> References: <3A147626.BCC34B7F@penix.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14868.34194.120378.18987@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Halliday writes: > link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In order to load the linux module, you need to load the osf1.ko module. Linux/alpha is rather osf/1 compatable and there is a lot of overlap, so the alpha linuxulator leverages a lot of the osf1 module's code. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Nov 16 18:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04BB37B479 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08143 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:41:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:41:28 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: loader issues... will get back to Re: DHCP broken? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did a full re-install, including deleting and re-creating the partitions and still getting "couldn't find /boot/loader". I'll see what I can do from the Emergency Holographic Shell ("please state the nature of your FreeBSD Installation emergency *smirk*) tomorrow. -Shawn On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, O'Shea. Shawn wrote: > > So I figure, "Well I ifconfig'ed the device manually, let me get a fresh > reboot, and then i'll dhclient just de0". So I did a reboot and now i get > "Can't open file /boot/loader". I tried doing a reinstall with the same > result. I remember seeing a thread on here about loader problems but dont > remember what resolution there was... > > -Shawn > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > sko@eth0.net writes: > > > > > > I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same > > > problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in > > > both cases). Can anyone help? > > > > > > Related output from messages: > > > Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected > > > Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol > > > family > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 > > > 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers > > > > I cannot duplicate the panic on a 4.2RC1 system here. I see everything but the panic. > > > > According to nm -n on the 4.2RC1 kernel, it is: > > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > fffffc00005bcc80 t swi_net > > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > > > > > So it looks like swi_net is trying to schedule a null swi. > > Ick. > > > > What happens if you start dhclient on just the interface you want to > > run it on (eg, not lo0, which is somewhat nonsensical anyway..) > > > > Drew > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up > # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net > # route add -net http http://eth0.net > > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 4:22:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (unknown [167.216.157.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F81637B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAHCTHF11040 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:29:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011171229.eAHCTHF11040@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PCI interrupt routing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 04:29:17 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks; in a conversation a little while back it was suggested that PCI interrupt routing for the Alphas would actually be pretty straightforward. What I don't recall is whether the comments implied that interrupt routing was likely to be constant per chipset or per platform. I want to implement the pcib_route_interrupt handler for Alpha chipsets to remove the i386 define in pci/pci.c, and provide an interface for correctly swizzling these. I guess that ideally I just want a per-whatever table of hose/bus/slot/intpin -> intline mappings, and a common lookup function that knows what the current 'whatever' is. What should 'whatever' be? Regards, Mike -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 8:40:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0912037B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lorq.feral.com (lorq [192.67.166.93]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14895; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:40:21 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mike Smith Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI interrupt routing In-Reply-To: <200011171229.eAHCTHF11040@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Per platform, not chipset. See NetBSD. On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > Folks; in a conversation a little while back it was suggested that PCI > interrupt routing for the Alphas would actually be pretty straightforward. > > What I don't recall is whether the comments implied that interrupt routing > was likely to be constant per chipset or per platform. I want to > implement the pcib_route_interrupt handler for Alpha chipsets to remove > the i386 define in pci/pci.c, and provide an interface for correctly > swizzling these. > > I guess that ideally I just want a per-whatever table of > hose/bus/slot/intpin -> intline mappings, and a common lookup function > that knows what the current 'whatever' is. What should 'whatever' be? > > Regards, > Mike > > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 8:49:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nt01.mercantec.com (mercantec.mercantec.com [205.243.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0811037B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by nt01.merc.local with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:49:43 -0600 Message-ID: From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'mjacob@feral.com'" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:49:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Arrggh. After seeing someone else have no problem with RC1 and an AS200, I scoured the machine and physically removed the CDROM from the case to checked the jumpers again. Indeed, the terminator was on (and the CDROM is in the middle of the chain), so all of my problems were because of a screwed up SCSI bus. Did a re-install booting off the CDROM and all went well, banged on it a while and seems to be stable. Sorry for the false alarm. Rob (hanging head in shame) > -----Original Message----- > From: McKinley, Rob [mailto:RMcKinley@mercantec.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:13 PM > To: 'mjacob@feral.com'; McKinley, Rob > Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' > Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > Yeah, without a serial connection I couldn't get the boot > messages to show > when it's broken (unless anyone knows of a way to get dmesg > output from the > emergency shell available from sysinstall). I didn't have > time to get it > last night either, so I'll try again tonight. > > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Jacob [mailto:mjacob@feral.com] > > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 11:20 AM > > To: McKinley, Rob > > Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' > > Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmesg output below is from the resulting installed system. > > I need to pick > > > up a working serial cable this evening to boot it from a > > console to get the > > > boot messages when booting off the CDROM/floppies. The > > CDROM is a Plextor > > > 12x SCSI. I double checked termination on the scsi chain > > and all seems well > > > there. I did note that after a buildworld, when I shut it > > down a show dev > > > at the SRM prompt only showed the hard drive, no CDROM, > > even though I had > > > the CDROM mounted during the buildworld. My guess at this > > point is that > > > during the beginning of sysinstall (and possibly during > > normal running), the > > > CDROM device is getting dropped as a valid device (similar > > to the thread > > > about the AS1200 getting read errors on the hard drive > > early on in boot > > > sequence?). > > > The SRM is the updated version from the Tru64 5.0 kit, so I > > could try moving > > > it back a rev or two. > > > > The dmesg you sent shows no errors. I'm still trying to > > figure out where > > precisely the CDROM seems to go away. Sigh. > > > > > > > > As an aside, if I leave the Tru64 5 disk on the chain I get > > the dreaded > > > "going nowhere without my init" panic. > > > > Yes, this still seems to be here. Something is reading the > > wrong disks's root > > filesystem. > > > > > > -matt > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 9: 5:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EFD37B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12231; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAHH5mx49949; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:05:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:05:47 -0500 (EST) To: Bernd Walter Cc: John Baldwin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) In-Reply-To: <20001116221125.A12204@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20001116212040.A12094@cicely8.cicely.de> <20001116221125.A12204@cicely8.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14869.25705.810908.875060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org An interesting comment found in the linux kernel sources: /* In theory, the PC164 has the same interrupt hardware as the other Cabriolet based systems. However, something got screwed up late in the development cycle which broke the interrupt masking hardware. Repeat, it is not possible to mask and ack interrupts. At all. In an attempt to work around this, while processing interrupts, we do not allow the IPL to drop below what it is currently. This prevents the possibility of recursion. ??? Another option might be to force all PCI devices to use edge triggered rather than level triggered interrupts. That might be too invasive though. */ Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 9:30:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5A737B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHHToB94341; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:29:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14869.25705.810908.875060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Christian Weisgerber , Bernd Walter Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Nov-00 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > An interesting comment found in the linux kernel sources: > > /* In theory, the PC164 has the same interrupt hardware as > the other Cabriolet based systems. However, something > got screwed up late in the development cycle which broke > the interrupt masking hardware. Repeat, it is not > possible to mask and ack interrupts. At all. > > In an attempt to work around this, while processing > interrupts, we do not allow the IPL to drop below what > it is currently. This prevents the possibility of > recursion. > > ??? Another option might be to force all PCI devices > to use edge triggered rather than level triggered > interrupts. That might be too invasive though. */ > > > Drew AUGH!!!!!!!! This explains a lot. :( Time to cook up an evil hack it looks like. :( -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 9:54:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2C937B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15130; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:54:24 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AS200, PC164 Success. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No shame. Glad it's now working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 9:55:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0559637B4C5; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15140; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:55:13 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 09:55:11 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Bernd Walter , John Baldwin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) In-Reply-To: <14869.25705.810908.875060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "what I said" > > An interesting comment found in the linux kernel sources: > > /* In theory, the PC164 has the same interrupt hardware as > the other Cabriolet based systems. However, something > got screwed up late in the development cycle which broke > the interrupt masking hardware. Repeat, it is not > possible to mask and ack interrupts. At all. > > In an attempt to work around this, while processing > interrupts, we do not allow the IPL to drop below what > it is currently. This prevents the possibility of > recursion. > > ??? Another option might be to force all PCI devices > to use edge triggered rather than level triggered > interrupts. That might be too invasive though. */ > > > Drew > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 10:32:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFD137B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 10:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13wqJ5-0004nZ-00; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:32:15 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAH6a0Z00955; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:36:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 07:36:00 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "McKinley, Rob" Cc: "'mjacob@feral.com'" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: AS200, PC164 Success. Message-ID: <20001117073600.B814@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from RMcKinley@mercantec.com on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:49:42AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 10:49:42AM -0600, McKinley, Rob wrote: > Arrggh. After seeing someone else have no problem with RC1 and an AS200, I > scoured the machine and physically removed the CDROM from the case to > checked the jumpers again. Indeed, the terminator was on (and the CDROM is > in the middle of the chain), so all of my problems were because of a screwed > up SCSI bus. Did a re-install booting off the CDROM and all went well, > banged on it a while and seems to be stable. Sorry for the false alarm. > > Rob (hanging head in shame) No need to. I, for one, value all people taking the time to test stuff. Just updated the test webpage at www.freebsd.org/~wilko -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 12:32:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4033937B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00198 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:31:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Welp, after about a total of a dozen RC1 install iterations, I've determined what the heck was wrong w/ my bootup. Since I was reinstalling a few times, I had decided to "make my life easier" (which of course caused this whole problem, having the exact opposite effect of what was intended) by creating just 2 partitions (/ and swap) on the 1Gb drive in my AS200. SRM doesnt appear to like that one bit (which I ended up thinking of this because I had the _exact_ same problem w/ OpenBSD & the OpenBoot prom on my SparcIPX at home). Anyhoo, I've gone thru 2 complete install iterations w/ no booting issues, once I carved the disk differently. -Shawn On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 sko@eth0.net wrote: > > Did a full re-install, including deleting and re-creating the partitions > and still getting "couldn't find /boot/loader". I'll see what I can do > from the Emergency Holographic Shell ("please state the nature of your > FreeBSD Installation emergency *smirk*) tomorrow. > > -Shawn > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, O'Shea. Shawn wrote: > > > > > So I figure, "Well I ifconfig'ed the device manually, let me get a fresh > > reboot, and then i'll dhclient just de0". So I did a reboot and now i get > > "Can't open file /boot/loader". I tried doing a reinstall with the same > > result. I remember seeing a thread on here about loader problems but dont > > remember what resolution there was... > > > > -Shawn > > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > > > > sko@eth0.net writes: > > > > > > > > I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same > > > > problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in > > > > both cases). Can anyone help? > > > > > > > > Related output from messages: > > > > Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected > > > > Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol > > > > family > > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: > > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 > > > > 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 > > > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers > > > > > > I cannot duplicate the panic on a 4.2RC1 system here. I see everything but the panic. > > > > > > According to nm -n on the 4.2RC1 kernel, it is: > > > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > > fffffc00005bcc80 t swi_net > > > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > > > > > > > > So it looks like swi_net is trying to schedule a null swi. > > > Ick. > > > > > > What happens if you start dhclient on just the interface you want to > > > run it on (eg, not lo0, which is somewhat nonsensical anyway..) > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up > > # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net > > # route add -net http http://eth0.net > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up > # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net > # route add -net http http://eth0.net > > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 12:37: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B6C37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15905; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:36:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: sko@eth0.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Welp, after about a total of a dozen RC1 install iterations, I've > determined what the heck was wrong w/ my bootup. > > Since I was reinstalling a few times, I had decided to "make my life > easier" (which of course caused this whole problem, having the exact > opposite effect of what was intended) by creating just 2 partitions (/ and > swap) on the 1Gb drive in my AS200. > > SRM doesnt appear to like that one bit (which I ended up thinking of this > because I had the _exact_ same problem w/ OpenBSD & the OpenBoot prom on > my SparcIPX at home). > > Anyhoo, I've gone thru 2 complete install iterations w/ no booting issues, > once I carved the disk differently. > > -Shawn > ?????? I typically always install this. Wierd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 12:42:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (smtp-relay-1.adobe.com [192.150.11.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CBE37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by smtp-relay-1.Adobe.COM (8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA27774 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com by inner-relay-2.Adobe.COM (8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23842; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:42:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from kaufman-wl ([153.32.71.12]) by mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G46S6S00.Q4I; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:42:28 -0800 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20001117124123.00a1eb60@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: marckauf@mailsj-v1.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:42:28 -0800 To: sko@eth0.net From: "Marc Kaufman" Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:31 PM 11/17/00 -0500, sko@eth0.net wrote: >Anyhoo, I've gone thru 2 complete install iterations w/ no booting issues, >once I carved the disk differently. > >-Shawn How differently? Why would the 2-partition scheme not work? Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 12:46:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2037237B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01576; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:46:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAHKklV25640; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:46:46 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: sko@eth0.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... Message-ID: <20001117124646.A25614@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sko@eth0.net on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:31:14PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:31:14PM -0500, sko@eth0.net wrote: > Since I was reinstalling a few times, I had decided to "make my life > easier" (which of course caused this whole problem, having the exact > opposite effect of what was intended) by creating just 2 partitions (/ and > swap) on the 1Gb drive in my AS200. Works on my AS250. Are you sure you didn't create the swap partition before / in sysinstall? It has been my experience that we do not boot if the `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 12:53:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D5137B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01613 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:53:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAHKrNi25720 for alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:53:23 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2 RC#2 ISO available Message-ID: <20001117125323.C25614@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org See ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/{ISO-IMAGES,4.2-RC#2-20001117} (the ftp bits are still uploading, so check back if the directly is empty) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 13: 8: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC9537B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18761 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:07:13 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:07:13 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RESOLVED - Re: DHCP broken? In-Reply-To: <14868.6006.689718.940301@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks like the problem is with the default interface faith0. If I dhclient directly against that, I get the same type of messages as below (sans kernel panic). dhclient de0 directly works fine, and: ifconfig_de0="dhcp" in rc.conf is much happy. -Shawn On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > sko@eth0.net writes: > > > > I had 4.1 on my AS200 and just reinstalled w/ the 4.2RC1 and had the same > > problem on both. dhclient panics the box and reboots (GENERIC kernel in > > both cases). Can anyone help? > > > > Related output from messages: > > Aug 4 21:08:49 /kernel: looutput: af=0 unexpected > > Aug 4 21:08:49 dhclient: send_packet: Address family not supported by protocol > > family > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: fatal kernel trap: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:32 /kernel: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a0 = 0x0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a1 = 0x1 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: pc = 0x0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00005bccc0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: curproc = 0 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: panic: trap > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: syncing disks... 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 2 > > 3 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 > > Aug 4 21:11:33 /kernel: giving up on 23 buffers > > I cannot duplicate the panic on a 4.2RC1 system here. I see everything but the panic. > > According to nm -n on the 4.2RC1 kernel, it is: > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > fffffc00005bcc80 t swi_net > fffffc00005bcd00 T do_sir > > > So it looks like swi_net is trying to schedule a null swi. > Ick. > > What happens if you start dhclient on just the interface you want to > run it on (eg, not lo0, which is somewhat nonsensical anyway..) > > Drew > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 13:11: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C02937B4CF for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20302 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:10:13 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:10:09 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-Reply-To: <20001117124646.A25614@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 03:31:14PM -0500, sko@eth0.net wrote: > > Since I was reinstalling a few times, I had decided to "make my life > > easier" (which of course caused this whole problem, having the exact > > opposite effect of what was intended) by creating just 2 partitions (/ and > > swap) on the 1Gb drive in my AS200. > > Works on my AS250. Are you sure you didn't create the swap partition > before / in sysinstall? It has been my experience that we do not boot if > the `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap). Ya know what. I think each time I created the "2 partition way", I might have done that! Welp, since I just saw the mail about RC2, I guess I'll have a chance to try it out next week. Thanks! -Shawn > > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 13:32:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C61937B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01813; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAHLW5A26071; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:32:04 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: sko@eth0.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... Message-ID: <20001117133204.B25729@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001117124646.A25614@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sko@eth0.net on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:10:09PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:10:09PM -0500, sko@eth0.net wrote: > Welp, since I just saw the mail about RC2, I guess I'll > have a chance to try it out next week. Don't wait until then -- the release will be out then. We've only got 3 days to make sure things are A-OK. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 13:45: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A65437B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (booga@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06872; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:44:08 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: comet.connix.com: booga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:44:08 -0500 (EST) From: sko@eth0.net X-Sender: booga@comet.connix.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-Reply-To: <20001117133204.B25729@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll see what I can do. I'll dl the ISO tonight. The machine is @ work, but I only live 15 minutes away, so I'll try and swing by the office this weekend and verify the CD install for RC2. -Shawn On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:10:09PM -0500, sko@eth0.net wrote: > > Welp, since I just saw the mail about RC2, I guess I'll > > have a chance to try it out next week. > > Don't wait until then -- the release will be out then. We've only got 3 > days to make sure things are A-OK. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX > -------------------------------------------------------------- # ifconfig eth0.net "Shawn O'Shea" netmask 255.255.255.0 up # route add -net smtp shawn@eth0.net # route add -net http http://eth0.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 14:18:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from front4m.grolier.fr (front4m.grolier.fr [195.36.216.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5D437B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nas6-133.vlt.club-internet.fr (nas6-133.vlt.club-internet.fr [194.158.108.133]) by front4m.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id XAA15386; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:17:37 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:18:50 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-Sender: groudier@linux.local To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Bernd Walter , John Baldwin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) In-Reply-To: <14869.25705.810908.875060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >=20 > An interesting comment found in the linux kernel sources: >=20 > /* In theory, the PC164 has the same interrupt hardware as > the other Cabriolet based systems. However, something=20 > got screwed up late in the development cycle which broke > the interrupt masking hardware. Repeat, it is not=20 > possible to mask and ack interrupts. At all. >=20 > In an attempt to work around this, while processing=20 > interrupts, we do not allow the IPL to drop below what > it is currently. This prevents the possibility of > recursion. =20 >=20 > ??? Another option might be to force all PCI devices > to use edge triggered rather than level triggered > interrupts. That might be too invasive though. */ >=20 >=20 > Drew Interesting, indeed. Note that using edge triggerred interrupt for PCI devices is a broken idea, since it would just break numerous drivers by making them lose interrupt conditions. Btw, in my opinion, handling level sensitive interrupts from some scheduled entity (i.e. not in the corresponding interrupt context) does not look a better idea to me for other reasons. This let me consider the above hardware not to be broken given proper handling of level sensitive interrupts. G=E9rard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 14:23:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hex.ex.muffin.org (hex.camelot.de [195.30.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE5E37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wist@localhost) by hex.ex.muffin.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA50286 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wist) From: Henrik Wist Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:23:06 +0100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. To make a long story short, I searched the web and came to the following conclusion: a) I need a SRM to run FreeBSD/Alpha. b) There is no SRM for the XL. Even though I'm pretty sure that a) and b) both are true, is there _any_ way (like switching from AlphaBios to SRM or whatever) to get this box to run with FreeBSD (or NetBSD for that matter). I'm even willing to hack some code, if that would help. Any pointers/flames/hints appreciated, with best regards, Henrik Wist -- wist@ex.MuFFiN.Org // IRC: |GOOSE| // wist@acm.org ------------------------- "Pine was created for staff at the University of Washington so that they would not need to be retrained upon returning from a coffeebreak." Ralph Sims To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 14:50:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF0A37B4C5 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:50:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAHMnKB06350; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 14:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Christian Weisgerber , Bernd Walter , Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Nov-00 Gérard Roudier wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> >> An interesting comment found in the linux kernel sources: >> >> /* In theory, the PC164 has the same interrupt hardware as >> the other Cabriolet based systems. However, something >> got screwed up late in the development cycle which broke >> the interrupt masking hardware. Repeat, it is not >> possible to mask and ack interrupts. At all. >> >> In an attempt to work around this, while processing >> interrupts, we do not allow the IPL to drop below what >> it is currently. This prevents the possibility of >> recursion. >> >> ??? Another option might be to force all PCI devices >> to use edge triggered rather than level triggered >> interrupts. That might be too invasive though. */ >> >> >> Drew > > Interesting, indeed. > > Note that using edge triggerred interrupt for PCI devices is a broken > idea, since it would just break numerous drivers by making them lose > interrupt conditions. Btw, in my opinion, handling level sensitive > interrupts from some scheduled entity (i.e. not in the corresponding > interrupt context) does not look a better idea to me for other reasons. > This let me consider the above hardware not to be broken given proper > handling of level sensitive interrupts. What if your interrupt handler blocks on a mutex? Unless you make all mutexes used by interrupts spin locks (which will chew up CPU time) you lose. Falling back to using all spin mutexes should only be used as a last resort if you can't find a way to allow an interrupt handler to block, and thus, to run in its own context, potentially delayed. > Gérard. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 15:13:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from downserv.kjkoster.org (213-84-15-12.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.15.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EF137B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tccn.cs.kun.nl (likeever.kjkoster.org [192.168.0.1]) by downserv.kjkoster.org (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAHNDki10639; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:13:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dutchman@tccn.cs.kun.nl) Message-ID: <3A15BBAA.A4A4385@tccn.cs.kun.nl> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:13:46 +0100 From: Kees Jan Koster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wilko@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Noname boots 4.2 RC1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------918FA280DB78724FAAA94098" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------918FA280DB78724FAAA94098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Wilko, Just for the record: my noname has just booted, installed 4.2 RC 1 and rebooted into the fresh installation without a hitch. It may not be the fastest box around, but at least it boots properly. :-) Groetjes, Kees Jan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kees Jan Koster e-mail: dutchman "at" tccn.cs.kun.nl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Calvin: "Sometimes the world seems like a pretty mean place." Hobbes: "That's why animals are so soft and huggy." --------------918FA280DB78724FAAA94098 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3A15BB75.84DEC3AC@tccn.cs.kun.nl> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:12:53 +0100 From: Kees Jan Koster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wilko@freebsd.org Subject: Noname boots 4.2 RC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Wilko, Just for the record: my noname has just booted, installed 4.2 RC 1 and rebooted into the fresh installation without a hitch. It may not be the fastest box around, but at least it boots properly. :-) Groetjes, Kees Jan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kees Jan Koster e-mail: dutchman "at" tccn.cs.kun.nl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Calvin: "Sometimes the world seems like a pretty mean place." Hobbes: "That's why animals are so soft and huggy." --------------918FA280DB78724FAAA94098-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 15:30:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7379C37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 13wuxw-0007W9-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 00:30:44 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eAHMxIq56479 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:59:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <8v4d86$1mfn$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20001117124646.A25614@dragon.nuxi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > Works on my AS250. Are you sure you didn't create the swap partition > before / in sysinstall? It has been my experience that we do not boot if > the `a' (/) partition isn't at a lower offset than `b' (swap). More generally, we don't boot if 'a' doesn't start at offset 0. Apparently the bootstrap has this hardcoded and doesn't read the disklabel. Among other things that also means that you can't install on a disk previously used for Linux without relabeling. (Linux/alpha with SRM uses the same disklabel format, but 'a' starts at an offset with the space before 'a' used for the aboot bootstrap, since Linux ext2fs doesn't leave any space at the beginning of a file system for the boot blocks.) Well, you can install just fine, but you can't boot from it, as I learned the hard way. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 16:21:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCBB37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02899; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:21:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAI0LNl27502; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 16:21:22 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Henrik Wist Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org>; from wist@ex.MuFFiN.Org on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100, Henrik Wist wrote: > I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. I thought 300MHz was the fastest. Sure it isn't a 266MHz? > a) I need a SRM to run FreeBSD/Alpha. > b) There is no SRM for the XL. All true. > is there _any_ way (like switching from AlphaBios to SRM or whatever) > to get this box to run with FreeBSD (or NetBSD for that matter). I'm > even willing to hack some code, if that would help. Any > pointers/flames/hints appreciated, with best regards, There is a WIP in /sys/boot/arc/ to allow us to boot and run on AlphaBIOS. So you'd need to jump in and hack on that to finish it. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 17:27:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C1437B4C5; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 17:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id eAI1QhD23264 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:27:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id eAI1QV517363; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:26:31 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.9.2) id eAI1QSf14080; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:26:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:26:28 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: John Baldwin Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Christian Weisgerber , Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: PC164 IDE only works (was: SMPng stability) Message-ID: <20001118022627.A13890@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:50:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 02:50:02PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > What if your interrupt handler blocks on a mutex? Unless you make all mutexes > used by interrupts spin locks (which will chew up CPU time) you lose. Falling > back to using all spin mutexes should only be used as a last resort if you > can't find a way to allow an interrupt handler to block, and thus, to run in > its own context, potentially delayed. If I understood correct the PC164 has 3 points where ints can be ignored. 1. The IPL which uses a processor defined table. 2. The processor mask which mask each of the 4 incoming int lines separately (IDU ICSR register). Does anyone knows which lines are used for what? Access seems to be restricted to PAL-code and serviced via CSERVE. 3. The int PAL-chip which we are using by invooking PAL-code. Maybe variant 2 might be an option as it will be not worse as if all ints are used shared and maybe easier to implement than holding the IPL high. It will also mean that depending on the hardware design some int are still accepted which depend on a lower IPL. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 20:18:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.fortean.com (nemesis.fortean.com [209.42.194.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15E637B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 20:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from rdu25-19-238.nc.rr.com (rdu25-19-238.nc.rr.com [24.25.19.238]) by nemesis.fortean.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11621 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:18:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:18:05 -0500 (EST) From: Rich Bud X-Sender: rbud@chorizo Reply-To: Rich Bud To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: pthread_create under stable Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone else had problems with pthread_create under STABLE? As of a couple of weeks ago pthread_create has stopped working on my PW 500a. It now segfaults. I went to /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test and ran the tests there, and they all failed with the same problem. Here's the output from gdb with one of the libc_r tests: ======= (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test/./hello_d Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x1600bdcb0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 ======= This is after doing another buildworld this morning, but as i said it's been that way the last few builds i've done. Can anyone else confirm this problem, or do i need to start poking through my setup? Thanks, Rich Bud To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 21:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6B537B4C5 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA99577; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 81BDE37B479; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:43:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001118054344.81BDE37B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:43:44 -0800 (PST) From: edgar@FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/22932: not installing on Digitall alpha series 2000 5/250 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22932 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: not installing on Digitall alpha series 2000 5/250 >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 17 21:50:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eduard Pozarsky >Release: 4.1-Release >Organization: TKS >Environment: >Description: load installation kernel and done - "unexpected hardware" - "panic" >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 22: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E324337B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA00392; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011180600.WAA00392@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: From: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: alpha/22932: not installing on Digitall alpha series 2000 5/250 Reply-To: Matthew Jacob Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/22932; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Matthew Jacob To: edgar@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/22932: not installing on Digitall alpha series 2000 5/250 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 21:52:48 -0800 (PST) Try adding more information. > > >Number: 22932 > >Category: alpha > >Synopsis: not installing on Digitall alpha series 2000 5/250 > >Confidential: no > >Severity: critical > >Priority: medium > >Responsible: freebsd-alpha > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: change-request > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 17 21:50:00 PST 2000 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Eduard Pozarsky > >Release: 4.1-Release > >Organization: > TKS > >Environment: > >Description: > load installation kernel and done - "unexpected hardware" - "panic" > >How-To-Repeat: > > >Fix: > > > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Nov 17 23:47:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1FC37B479 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eAI7rtF01203; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200011180753.eAI7rtF01203@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: sko@eth0.net, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RESOLVED - Re: loader issues... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Nov 2000 12:36:51 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:53:55 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > Since I was reinstalling a few times, I had decided to "make my life > > easier" (which of course caused this whole problem, having the exact > > opposite effect of what was intended) by creating just 2 partitions (/ and > > swap) on the 1Gb drive in my AS200. > > > > SRM doesnt appear to like that one bit (which I ended up thinking of this > > because I had the _exact_ same problem w/ OpenBSD & the OpenBoot prom on > > my SparcIPX at home). > > ?????? > > I typically always install this. > > Wierd. How large is the disk in question? -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 2:38:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3358F37B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #4) id 13x5OQ-000Hgo-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:38:46 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAHMfGF06821; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:41:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:41:16 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Henrik Wist Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001117234116.A6168@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org>; from wist@ex.MuFFiN.Org on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100, Henrik Wist wrote: > Hi, > I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. To make > a long story short, I searched the web and came to the following conclusion: > > a) I need a SRM to run FreeBSD/Alpha. > b) There is no SRM for the XL. Correct on both counts. > Even though I'm pretty sure that a) and b) both are true, is there _any_ way > (like switching from AlphaBios to SRM or whatever) to get this box to run with > FreeBSD (or NetBSD for that matter). I'm even willing to hack some code, if Unless you you make FreeBSD run with ARC/AlphaBIOS and the crippled NT PALcode you are stuck.. :-( -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 2:42:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB4237B479; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13x5Rq-0001GV-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:42:18 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAHMk4q06913; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:03 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Henrik Wist , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001117234603.B6168@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:21:22PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:21:22PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100, Henrik Wist wrote: > > I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. > > I thought 300MHz was the fastest. Sure it isn't a 266MHz? No... You have the XL233 and XL266. Then there are the XL300 and XL366. The latter are the more desirable ones, 21164 instead of the 21064 etc. And a sensible memory interface. XL233/266 CPU boards could be retrofitted on a x86 PC (Celebris IIRC) -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 2:42:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB4237B479; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 02:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 13x5Rq-0001GV-00; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:42:18 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eAHMk4q06913; Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 23:46:03 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Henrik Wist , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001117234603.B6168@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:21:22PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:21:22PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100, Henrik Wist wrote: > > I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. > > I thought 300MHz was the fastest. Sure it isn't a 266MHz? No... You have the XL233 and XL266. Then there are the XL300 and XL366. The latter are the more desirable ones, 21164 instead of the 21064 etc. And a sensible memory interface. XL233/266 CPU boards could be retrofitted on a x86 PC (Celebris IIRC) -- Wilko Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands wilko@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 8:54: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421C137B479; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 08:53:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28183; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:53:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAIGrs455539; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:53:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 11:53:54 -0500 (EST) To: Rich Bud Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, deischen@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pthread_create under stable In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14870.45447.43597.701639@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't have a -stable alpha handy, but I think I'm seeing the same problem under -current: Starting program: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test/hello_d Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x1600c1ff0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () at /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c:177 177 if ((_thread_run->flags & PTHREAD_FLAGS_PRIVATE) == 0) I don't know enough about how to debug threads to be very helpful here. I did notice one rather disturbing warning though: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_sig.c: In function `_thread_sig_wrapper': /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_sig.c:1003: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size (*(sigfunc))(psf->signo, (siginfo_t *)psf->siginfo.si_code, &psf->uc); si_code is a 32-bit int; you can't cast that to a 64-bit pointer on an alpha and expect to have a useful pointer.. I hope one of the threads maintainers can figure it out prior to 4.2-RELEASE. This is a real show-stopper. Also, I wonder if it is related to the crt0 changes? Drew Rich Bud writes: > Has anyone else had problems with pthread_create under STABLE? > As of a couple of weeks ago pthread_create has stopped working > on my PW 500a. It now segfaults. I went to /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test > and ran the tests there, and they all failed with the same problem. > Here's the output from gdb with one of the libc_r tests: > > ======= > (gdb) run > Starting program: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test/./hello_d > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x1600bdcb0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 > ======= > > This is after doing another buildworld this morning, but as i said > it's been that way the last few builds i've done. Can anyone else > confirm this problem, or do i need to start poking through my setup? > > Thanks, > Rich Bud > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 9:53: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6119037B4C5; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 09:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id MAA00301; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:52:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:52:36 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Rich Bud , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, deischen@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pthread_create under stable In-Reply-To: <14870.45447.43597.701639@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I don't have a -stable alpha handy, but I think I'm seeing the same > problem under -current: > > Starting program: /usr/src/lib/libc_r/test/hello_d > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x1600c1ff0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () > at /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c:177 > 177 if ((_thread_run->flags & PTHREAD_FLAGS_PRIVATE) == 0) This isn't really enough to go on... > I don't know enough about how to debug threads to be very helpful > here. I did notice one rather disturbing warning though: > > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_sig.c: In function `_thread_sig_wrapper': > /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_sig.c:1003: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size > > (*(sigfunc))(psf->signo, > (siginfo_t *)psf->siginfo.si_code, &psf->uc); > > si_code is a 32-bit int; you can't cast that to a 64-bit pointer on an > alpha and expect to have a useful pointer.. It's trying to call a traditional BSD style signal handler of the form: sighandler(int, int, struct sigcontext *) but there is no predefined prototype for this like there is for __sa_handler or __sa_sigaction. I guess we can add one or just omit the (siginfo_t *) typecast. -- Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 10:17:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB5337B479; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29065; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id eAIIH3655625; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:17:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:17:03 -0500 (EST) To: Daniel Eischen Cc: Rich Bud , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, deischen@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pthread_create under stable In-Reply-To: References: <14870.45447.43597.701639@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14870.51034.718619.739611@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Eischen writes: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > > 0x1600c1ff0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () > > at /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c:177 > > 177 if ((_thread_run->flags & PTHREAD_FLAGS_PRIVATE) == 0) > > This isn't really enough to go on... > I know the feeling... I'm pretty ignorant about debugging threads, so please tell me -- How do we get you more info? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 10:26:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hex.ex.muffin.org (hex.camelot.de [195.30.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE9737B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wist@localhost) by hex.ex.muffin.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA18951; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:17:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wist) From: Henrik Wist Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 19:17:58 +0100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: sec@42.org Subject: Re: AlphaXL FAQ Message-ID: <20001118191758.A18652@hex.ex.muffin.org> References: <20001117232306.A50269@hex.ex.muffin.org> <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=17pEHd4RhPHOinZp; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <20001117162122.A27462@dragon.nuxi.com>; from David O'Brien on Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 04:21:22PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Nov 17, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:06PM +0100, Henrik Wist wrote: > > I'm the proud(?) owner of an Alpha XL/366 with AlphaBios since today. >=20 > I thought 300MHz was the fastest. Sure it isn't a 266MHz? Yep, it's to be exact an Alpha XLT/366, forgot the codename. > > is there _any_ way (like switching from AlphaBios to SRM or whatever) > > to get this box to run with FreeBSD (or NetBSD for that matter). I'm > > even willing to hack some code, if that would help. Any > > pointers/flames/hints appreciated, with best regards, >=20 > There is a WIP in /sys/boot/arc/ to allow us to boot and run on > AlphaBIOS. So you'd need to jump in and hack on that to finish it. Haven't looked at it (all 3.x boxes here), but how much work do you think it would be? Is it feasible anyway to do it in the copious spare time? Thanks for your answer, Henrik --=20 wist@ex.MuFFiN.Org // IRC: |GOOSE| // wist@informatik.tu-muenchen.de ------------------------- "Weisst, das mit der Ungeduld beim ersten mal ircen ist wie beim Sex. Wer da nur gehetzt 'rumklickt' und schon nach wenigen Sekunden sein Erfolgserlebn= is haben will... " Michael 'Eumel' Neumayer =20 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQCVAwUBOhbH1u35cyKSlwZlAQGVPwQA0LTIkbT8cHp77KBkKaR7dP+DFE9xgRn/ vRVZpmeVkcck6pQQKabBQQQ0k2mdyjbZO04Y7lR52o26EGHXCzLoUFldcXPzzllB 7FoqNlKh/U02ml1aTQoGgcyQGGe/88jyJgOyD4PN9n+LNGS0AyyKzx4cib8ccDME Y5wkx+ipUdM= =K/PB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 10:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969DB37B479; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 10:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id NAA05717; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:37:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 13:37:42 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Rich Bud , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, deischen@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, jasone@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pthread_create under stable In-Reply-To: <14870.51034.718619.739611@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 18 Nov 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Daniel Eischen writes: > > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > > > 0x1600c1ff0 in _thread_kern_scheduler () > > > at /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c:177 > > > 177 if ((_thread_run->flags & PTHREAD_FLAGS_PRIVATE) == 0) > > > > This isn't really enough to go on... > > > > I know the feeling... I'm pretty ignorant about debugging threads, so > please tell me -- How do we get you more info? Whats the traceback show? You can also help by running it under ktrace and see if it's failing after a scheduling signal (SIGPROF). You can also enable debug messages in either one of uthread_sig.c or uthread_kern.c (uncomment #define DBG_MSG at the beginning of either one of those files). You'll probably end up with too much being dumped initially, but you can comment out some of the unneeded DBG_MSGs. I'd just start with uthread_sig.c. One thing to look for is making sure the signal handler is executing on the alternal signal stack. This caused me problems before. The signal stack is set in uthread_init.c and stored in _thread_sigstack. In the signal handler in uthread_sig.c (_thread_sig_handler()), you can check to make sure that the stack pointer is somewhere within _thread_sigstack and _thread_sigstack - MINSTKSZ. Please also check thread_sigframe_add in uthread_sig.c. This is the routine that adds a signal frame to a threads stack and sets it up to invoke the signal wrapper. I think it's 64-bit clean, but you might want to make sure. If you can narrow down the problem, I can be of more help :-) -- Dan Eischen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 12:47:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9642437B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12289 invoked by uid 0); 18 Nov 2000 20:47:32 -0000 Received: from ppp-27.pm02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO feldregen) (212.122.132.90) by mail.gmx.net (mail08) with SMTP; 18 Nov 2000 20:47:32 -0000 From: "Klaus Berbach" To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 21:58:23 +0100 Reply-To: "Klaus Berbach" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Booting FreeBSD Message-Id: <20001118204734.9642437B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am afraid I have joined the list too late (loader issues). So, here again. I wonder how to actually boot FreeBSD (Alphastation 500). I (think I) have installed FreeBSD successfully, but now I can=B4t boot it. "boot dka0" or boot "dka0 -fl 0" from SRM does somehow not work. So any help or point to documentation would br appreciated (well, of course ...) Thank you To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 12:53:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F6637B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19305; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:53:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 12:53:10 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Klaus Berbach Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <20001118204734.9642437B479@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org type sho dev to see what it's attached to. You know, there's this cruel joke in that you can boot the install floppies= , and install to a disk connected to a SCSI adapter supported by FreeBSD, but that SRM won't see, so you can't boot from it. I hope that this has not occurred for you- for a 500 it shouldn't. > Hi, >=20 > I am afraid I have joined the list too late (loader > issues). So, here again. I wonder how to actually boot > FreeBSD (Alphastation 500). I (think I) have installed > FreeBSD successfully, but now I can=B4t boot it. "boot > dka0" or boot "dka0 -fl 0" from SRM does somehow not > work. So any help or point to documentation would br > appreciated (well, of course ...) >=20 > Thank you=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 16:31:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7E9237B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17452 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2000 00:31:44 -0000 Received: from ppp-44.pm02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO feldregen) (212.122.132.107) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 19 Nov 2000 00:31:44 -0000 From: "Klaus Berbach" To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:42:36 +0100 Reply-To: "Klaus Berbach" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD Message-Id: <20001119003145.C7E9237B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >type > >sho dev > >to see what it's attached to. Well, SRM does see all devices and even booting from CD works fine (plain "boot dka400"). When I enter "boot dka0" (which is the device I have installed BSD to) I get a "halted CPU 0" after the boot messages "jumping to bootstrap code" and "Loading /boot/loader". I was wondering wether I need some further arguments for booting or wether maybe the installation is corrupt. The full message (just in case it helps): CPU 0 booting (boot dka0.0.0.9.0 -flags A) block 0 of dka0.0.0.9.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dka0.0.0.9.0 bootstrap code read in base = 14a000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 13c000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader halted CPU 0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = 0 >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 16:35:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A99637B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31912 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2000 00:35:53 -0000 Received: from ppp-44.pm02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO feldregen) (212.122.132.107) by mail.gmx.net (mail03) with SMTP; 19 Nov 2000 00:35:53 -0000 From: "Klaus Berbach" To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:46:45 +0100 Reply-To: "Klaus Berbach" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD (small Info Addon) Message-Id: <20001119003554.5A99637B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am sorry. I forgott to mention that I am using Version 4.1 of FreeBSD (ISO). Thx for the reminder. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Nov 18 16:50: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1804037B479 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10414; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eAJ0nxv75242; Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:49:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:49:58 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Klaus Berbach Cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD Message-ID: <20001118164958.A75195@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20001119003145.C7E9237B479@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001119003145.C7E9237B479@hub.freebsd.org>; from K_Berbach@gmx.de on Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:42:36AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 01:42:36AM +0100, Klaus Berbach wrote: > Well, SRM does see all devices and even booting from CD > works fine (plain "boot dka400"). So we know your SCSI controller is recognized by SRM. > The full message (just in case it helps): Yes, *immensely* (it should have been the first thing you posted) and much more understandable what is going on than your description of what happened above. > Loading /boot/loader > halted CPU 0 > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 0 > >>> This is what used to happen when we were corrupting the stack (when FICL was first put into the Alpha loader). What version of FreeBSD was this? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message