From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 0: 4:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A7537B7A0 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:04:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.freebsd.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10152; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:03:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Kent Hauser Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel builds fail In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:45:41 EDT." <200004292245.SAA41613@chapel-hill.tfd.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:03:22 +0200 Message-ID: <10150.957078202@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, diff/patch and me got into an argument it seems. Should be fixed now. In message <200004292245.SAA41613@chapel-hill.tfd.com>, Kent Hauser writes: >I can't build a kernel after CVSUP'ing today. > >After successfully completing a `make world', I tried >to build a kernel. Edited script below. > > >chapel-hill# cd /sys/i386/conf >chapel-hill# rm -rf ../../compile/GENERIC >chapel-hill# config GENERIC >WARNING: Old ISA driver compatability shims present. >Don't forget to do a ``make depend'' >Kernel build directory is ../../compile/GENERIC >chapel-hill# cd ../../compile/GENERIC >chapel-hill# make -s depend all >./aicasm: 725 instructions used > >[[ lots of warnings deleted ]] > >../../kern/vfs_bio.c:2584: warning: no previous prototype for `biowait' > >[[ more warnings deleted ]] > >linking kernel >vfs_bio.o: In function `bread': >vfs_bio.o(.text+0x485): undefined reference to `bufwait' >vfs_bio.o: In function `breadn': >vfs_bio.o(.text+0x64f): undefined reference to `bufwait' >vfs_bio.o: In function `bwrite': >vfs_bio.o(.text+0x87e): undefined reference to `bufwait' >vfs_cluster.o: In function `cluster_read': >vfs_cluster.o(.text+0x481): undefined reference to `bufwait' >nfs_vnops.o: In function `nfs_writebp': >nfs_vnops.o(.text+0x11951): undefined reference to `bufwait' >ffs_inode.o(.text+0xc0c): more undefined references to `bufwait' follow >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 0:53:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B60337B88A for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA74288; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:52:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <20000429164027.A7708@cichlids.cichlids.com> from Alexander Langer at "Apr 29, 2000 04:40:27 pm" To: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:52:44 +0200 (CEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Alexander Langer wrote: > 20000320: > * * * W A R N I N G * * * > The ata driver has some issues with the Apollo MVP3 chipset. > Drives work only in pio mode and must be set to pio mode early > int the boot process. Do not upgrade. If you must upgrade > in the face of this, add > /sbin/sysctl -w hw.atamodes=pio,pio,pio,pio > to the start of /etc/rc.conf. Even if you do this, any and > all damage to your system is at your own risk. You have been > warned. > * * * W A R N I N G * * * > > > Of _course_ I own such a thing. Ehm, is that a warning you have written or ?? I certainly havn't issued this warning as the maintainer/author of the ata driver... > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Mar 31 16:52:11 CEST 2000 > alex@cichlids.cichlids.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/cichlids > > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib2: at device > 1.0 on pci0 > atapci0: port 0xe000-0xe00f at device > 7.1 on pci0 > > Two things: As you can see, my -current is from Mar 31,though I don't > know exaclty if I've taken sourcs from Mar 31, but I'm kinda sure. > > Question is: Does the problem affect all versions? > It doesn't seem so, since I'm running two disks at UDMA33 without > problems: > > ad0: 4133MB [8959/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 > ad2: 6197MB [12592/16/63] at ata1-master using UDMA33 > > There still is a little chance that my sources wasn't from pre-03/20, > so - is this problem fixed? I have not changed anything in the ata driver related to the VIA'586 in a long time, its works with all disks and ATAPI devices I have access to on the MVP3 chaintec board I have... But knowing VIA and their funny way of versioning the silicon, it could be that they have made a newer version of the '586 that behaves differently than the old (they have done that with the '596) and that will probably cause problems.. So, I need a verbose boot from a working kernel, and the same from a system that shows the problem from a newer kernel to be able to tell if there is an issue here... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 1:19: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from postal.linkfast.net (postal.linkfast.net [208.160.105.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8C237BC2F for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grasshacker@linkfast.net) Received: from gh (p159.usr.linkfast.net [208.170.100.159]) by postal.linkfast.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 482A99B0F for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:57:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <041601bfb247$568126b0$9f64aad0@gh> From: "gh" To: References: Subject: Re: Archive pruning Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:56:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For an opinion from a reasonably new-comer and non-developer, I think at least the main source tree should remain *completely* complete. As someone mentioned, why not have "lite" mirrors? Dan K. gh | On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: | | > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, you wrote: | > | > > I told myself I wouldn't get into this debate with you again, Richard, but | > > you're not listening. The vast majority (all? I might have missed one) of | > > the other respondants | > | > Actually, I didn't start this. Someone else brought up the idea. | | I did. I wanted to test the opinions. I said I had enough responses, | about 40 messages ago. Damn, people, if you're *really* tired of hearing | from Richard on this, for god's sake control your keyboards, they're | running amuck! | | Let's see if you guys can just let it die, ok? | | > The quiet majority that might benefit are not very likely to speak up when | > they are told some is impossible. | | Quiet majority .... hehe! Right .... | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- | Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, | chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. | | New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up | fictitious words in the dictionary. | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 2: 2:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6BC37BC2C for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25002; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:02:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:02:04 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: Adam Cc: Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs Message-ID: <20000430110203.A24866@cons.org> References: <20000429214311.A11995@prism.flugsvamp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 01:56:56AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In , Adam wrote: > On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > >On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:15:47AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> On Saturday, 29 April 2000 at 13:44:08 -0700, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > >> > jlemon 2000/04/29 13:44:08 PDT > >> > > >> > Added files: > >> > lib/libstand ext2fs.c > >> > Log: > >> > Add ext2fs support to the loader. > >> > >> What's the need for this? > > > >It allows us to see linux partition types, and load from them; > >I should be able to boot a freebsd kernel and memory image from > >a pure linux box, although I've only used it to load the kernel > >at this point. > >-- > >Jonathan > > > Not sure if this is a silly question or not, but could the kernel somehow > view a specific dir on a ext2fs disk as the freebsd root and boot a > freebsd system from it? Also being able to access the stuff below the > freebsd root on the ext2fs partition would be cool. Any idea how much > work it might take someone to do this? An alternative would be mounting a > file on the ext2fs via vn as the freebsd root containing a freebsd install > on ffs or ext2. This way might make it easier to have access to the > underlying ext2 and make it easier for the base linux system to populate / > modify if linux has trouble with ffs. > Just modify /sbin/init to do a changeroot before anything else. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ Tel.: (private) +4940 5221829 Fax.: (private) +4940 5228536 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 2:44:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE0537BC91 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA49144 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:44:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08984 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:29:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:29:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: How to determine when something broke Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Because I can't do anything more intelligent to find my 2-printer-panic, I'd like at least to know when it broke. It works in a kernel from march 15, and has been broken at least a week. So I cvsup to 2000.04.01.00.00.00 to see if it worked then. Is it enough to compile a new kernel, or do I need to make world too? Is it enough to cvsup src-sys, src-include and src-base? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 2:45: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAECD37BC94 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id LAA49145 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:44:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06404 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:18:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:18:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: panic at boot (bus_generic_probe) with 2 printers ENABLED Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In a freshly cvsup'ed current, I get a panic at boot, if both ports are enabled in userconfig. If only one or the other is enabled, it works. I have narrowed it down to it panics the second time ppbconf calls bus_generic_probe: trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a502c,0(%ebx) ebx is 0xe0 My config is: machine i386 cpu I586_CPU ident ARNOLD maxusers 32 makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=5000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options DDB device isa device eisa device pci options COMPAT_OLDPCI # Old PCI driver shims device ncr0 device scbus0 device da0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device pass0 device cd0 device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device ppc0 at isa? device ppbus device lpt device ppi device ppc1 at isa? irq 5 device ed0 at isa? port 0x340 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 2 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's options KTRACE #kernel tracing options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM pseudo-device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet filter device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 options SOFTUPDATES pseudo-device sppp pseudo-device "i4bq921" pseudo-device "i4bq931" pseudo-device "i4b" pseudo-device "i4btrc" 2 pseudo-device "i4bctl" pseudo-device "i4brbch" 4 pseudo-device "i4btel" 2 pseudo-device "i4bipr" 4 options IPR_VJ pseudo-device "i4bisppp" 4 options DRN_NGO device isic0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 3:21:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E3537B672 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.com (p3E9C1178.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.156.17.120]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09206; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:20:13 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C68AC2C; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04874; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:21:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:21:12 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Soren Schmidt Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? Message-ID: <20000430122112.D4643@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Soren Schmidt , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000429164027.A7708@cichlids.cichlids.com> <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk>; from sos@freebsd.dk on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 09:52:44AM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Soren Schmidt (sos@freebsd.dk): > Ehm, is that a warning you have written or ?? I certainly havn't > issued this warning as the maintainer/author of the ata driver... It's in /usr/src/UPDATING. UPDATING: $FreeBSD: src/UPDATING,v 1.77 2000/04/04 17:14:18 imp Exp $ > a long time, its works with all disks and ATAPI devices I have access to > on the MVP3 chaintec board I have... Yes, I can verify this. It works here too. I think I'll just update. > So, I need a verbose boot from a working kernel, and the same from > a system that shows the problem from a newer kernel to be able to > tell if there is an issue here... I'm going to update and check for you. Alex -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 6: 2:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rtp.tfd.com (rtp.tfd.com [198.79.53.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D77F37B70E for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kent@lab1.tfd.com) Received: from lab1.tfd.com (lab1.tfd.com [10.9.200.31]) by rtp.tfd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA17155; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lab1.tfd.com id AA15052 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:54:34 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:54:34 -0400 From: Kent Hauser Message-Id: <200004301254.AA15052@lab1.tfd.com> To: kent@tfd.com, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: Kernel builds fail Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. I can now build the GENERIC kernel. Of course, now my real kernel won't link :=< chapel-hill# make linking kernel ng_base.o: In function `ng_make_node': ng_base.o(.text+0x54): undefined reference to `linker_search_path' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GW. Kent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 6:17:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A7537B601; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA34801; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:17:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:17:24 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Kent Hauser Cc: kent@tfd.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel builds fail Message-ID: <20000430151724.A34777@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <200004301254.AA15052@lab1.tfd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004301254.AA15052@lab1.tfd.com>; from kent@lab1.tfd.com on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 08:54:34AM -0400 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000430 15:05], Kent Hauser (kent@lab1.tfd.com) wrote: >Thanks. I can now build the GENERIC kernel. > >Of course, now my real kernel won't link :=< > >chapel-hill# make >linking kernel >ng_base.o: In function `ng_make_node': >ng_base.o(.text+0x54): undefined reference to `linker_search_path' >*** Error code 1 I think this is related to Peter's recent changes in the module dependency code. Peter? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Answering the questions that no one asks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 6:38:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F59.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F0C37B816 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:38:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA00747 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200004301335.PAA00747@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel breakage in ng_base.c From: Gary Jennejohn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 15:35:07 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's a simple patch which works for me. --- /sys/netgraph/ng_base.c Sun Apr 30 11:32:22 2000 +++ /sys/netgraph/ng_base.c_mod Sun Apr 30 11:40:24 2000 @@ -314,11 +314,16 @@ int error; /* Not found, try to load it as a loadable module */ +#if 0 snprintf(filename, sizeof(filename), "ng_%s.ko", typename); if ((path = linker_search_path(filename)) == NULL) return (ENXIO); error = linker_load_file(path, &lf); FREE(path, M_LINKER); +#else + snprintf(filename, sizeof(filename), "ng_%s", typename); + error = linker_load_file(filename, &lf); +#endif if (error != 0) return (error); lf->userrefs++; /* pretend loaded by the syscall */ -------- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 7:48:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D580437BC9D; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:48:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: from bp (helo=localhost) by relay.butya.kz with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12lv0z-000CCW-00; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:48:09 +0700 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:48:09 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, peter@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel breakage in ng_base.c In-Reply-To: <200004301335.PAA00747@peedub.muc.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > Here's a simple patch which works for me. This patch is not 100% correct. ng_base should make an attempt to load module, not KLD. There was a new module_load() function proposed to inclusion in the API, but for some reason it is not committed yet. -- Boris Popov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 8:16:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CE237B5E1; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:16:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA35655; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:15:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:15:42 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Boris Popov Cc: Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel breakage in ng_base.c Message-ID: <20000430171542.B35474@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <200004301335.PAA00747@peedub.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bp@butya.kz on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 09:48:09PM +0700 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000430 16:50], Boris Popov (bp@butya.kz) wrote: > This patch is not 100% correct. ng_base should make an attempt to >load module, not KLD. There was a new module_load() function proposed to >inclusion in the API, but for some reason it is not committed yet. When Peter committed this all he had worked a few days untill too early in the morning. It is a lack of sufficient sleep which caught up on him. =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Answering the questions that no one asks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 8:18: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D2937B787 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA35667; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:17:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:17:42 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic at boot (bus_generic_probe) with 2 printers ENABLED Message-ID: <20000430171742.C35474@lucifer.bart.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:18:29AM +0200 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000430 11:50], Leif Neland (leifn@neland.dk) wrote: >In a freshly cvsup'ed current, I get a panic at boot, if both ports are >enabled in userconfig. >If only one or the other is enabled, it works. > >I have narrowed it down to it panics the second time ppbconf calls >bus_generic_probe: > >trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > >bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a502c,0(%ebx) >ebx is 0xe0 How about adding: options BUS_DEBUG to your kernel config file and perhaps even boot verbose and show us the details of /var/log/messages? Thanks, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Answering the questions that no one asks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 8:21:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418D037B883 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA35735; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:21:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:21:06 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ldconfig -m not configuring ? Message-ID: <20000430172106.D35474@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20000429.18145300@mis.configured.host> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000429.18145300@mis.configured.host>; from bartequi@neomedia.it on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 06:14:53PM +0000 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000429 19:20], Salvo Bartolotta (bartequi@neomedia.it) wrote: >I issued a "ldconfig -r | grep ld-linux" and, actually, I found [snip] >What prevents ldconfig -m /usr/compat/linux/lib from doing its duty ? >What am I missing ? I might be wrong, but the native ldconfig has nothing to do with the compat/linux libraries for all I know. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl Answering the questions that no one asks... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 8:39:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7359A37B645; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: from bp (helo=localhost) by relay.butya.kz with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12lvo1-000CGl-00; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:38:49 +0700 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:38:49 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel breakage in ng_base.c In-Reply-To: <20000430171542.B35474@lucifer.bart.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20000430 16:50], Boris Popov (bp@butya.kz) wrote: > > This patch is not 100% correct. ng_base should make an attempt to > >load module, not KLD. There was a new module_load() function proposed to > >inclusion in the API, but for some reason it is not committed yet. > > When Peter committed this all he had worked a few days untill too early > in the morning. I should correct myself: this function exists, but declared as static and called linker_load_module(). Gary, you may try to use it: linker_load_module(name, NULL); -- Boris Popov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 10:55:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CBC37BD4B for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA73652; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:55:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:55:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: gh Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Archive pruning In-Reply-To: <041601bfb247$568126b0$9f64aad0@gh> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, gh wrote: > For an opinion from a reasonably new-comer and non-developer, I think at > least the main source tree should remain *completely* complete. > As someone mentioned, why not have "lite" mirrors? Oh, for god's sake, PLEASE let this drop! I don't want to insult a newcomer, but you've picked a very poor thing to comment on. Try another, maybe one that's a bit fresher. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 11:37:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B995237BD04 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21918; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:37:29 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to determine when something broke Message-ID: <20000430113729.B15334@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:29:43AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 11:29:43AM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > Because I can't do anything more intelligent to find my 2-printer-panic, > I'd like at least to know when it broke. > > It works in a kernel from march 15, and has been broken at least a week. > > So I cvsup to 2000.04.01.00.00.00 to see if it worked then. > > Is it enough to compile a new kernel, or do I need to make world too? People will be upset it you submit bug reports where your kernel and world don't match. That might not be the problem, but then again, it might so it's best if you do both. > Is it enough to cvsup src-sys, src-include and src-base? src-all is generally recommended. It only takes a few minutes even on a really crappy modem link once you've done it once and 2.2->3 took me under two hours on a very poor 56k link when I did it. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 11:47: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ED337BDE7 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12lyjw-000FBP-00; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:46:48 +0200 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:46:48 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: gh Subject: Re: Archive pruning Message-ID: <20000430204648.A57977@mithrandr.moria.org> Reply-To: Idontwantreplies@mithrandr.moria.org References: <041601bfb247$568126b0$9f64aad0@gh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <041601bfb247$568126b0$9f64aad0@gh>; from grasshacker@linkfast.net on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 08:56:44PM -0500 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat 2000-04-29 (20:56), gh wrote: > For an opinion from a reasonably new-comer and non-developer, I think at > least the main source tree should remain *completely* complete. > As someone mentioned, why not have "lite" mirrors? You are welcome to co-ordinate the resources (developer time, bandwidth, machines) to provide this service. Kindly don't continue this discussion in this (inappropriate) forum. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Hacker In Chief, Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 14:37: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rtp.tfd.com (rtp.tfd.com [198.79.53.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A98F37BC92 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kent@chapel-hill.tfd.com) Received: from chapel-hill.tfd.com (chapel-hill.tfd.com [10.20.0.40]) by rtp.tfd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17503 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kent@localhost) by chapel-hill.tfd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00233 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:36:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kent) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kent Hauser Message-Id: <200004302136.RAA00233@chapel-hill.tfd.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: sound output causes reset Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, I'm still having trouble getting sound out of my SBLive card. I'm running -CURRENT as of 4/28. My box performs a "reset" (not a panic) whenever I try to play a mp3 file or a real-audio clip. The box makes no noise (but at least doesn't reset) when I try "cdcontrol play" I've tried enabling sbc & csa with no change in the result. I've attached "boot -v" output & the sound releated kernel lines. Any info would be appreciated. Kent ============= The output of boot -v (sound releated items): Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Apr 28 19:31:15 EDT 2000 Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: kent@chapel-hill.tfd.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GW Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: pcm0: port 0x10e0-0x10ff irq 11 at device 14.0 on pci0 Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: pcm0: ac97 codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721) Apr 30 17:29:37 chapel-hill /kernel: pcm0: ac97 codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 5 bit master volume, SigmaTel 3D Enhancement Apr 30 17:29:38 chapel-hill /kernel: pca0: at port 0x61 on isa0 ========================== Sound related kernel options: #options PNPBIOS device pcm #device sbc #device csa #device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 device pca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 16:24:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360CA37BD6E for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:24:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000430232438.PBYG18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:24:38 -0700 Message-ID: <390CC07C.238DA34E@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:23:40 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: > > Ok, I checked, and vmstat shows cpu usage to be quite normal, about 6% > while playing. What's up w/ top? > Xmms on my SMP current machine: top shows 40 to 43% system vmstat shows 10 to 11% -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 16:28:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AFD37B609 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000430232812.PCUH18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:28:12 -0700 Message-ID: <390CC152.9DC6CC07@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:27:14 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms References: <390CC07C.238DA34E@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Sikora wrote: > > VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: > > > > Ok, I checked, and vmstat shows cpu usage to be quite normal, about 6% > > while playing. What's up w/ top? > > > > Xmms on my SMP current machine: top shows 40 to 43% system > vmstat shows 10 to 11% > vmstat -w 1 matches top exactly about 41-43% system on my box. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 17:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B8A37B810 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (root@rac8.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.148]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02103; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA21603; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA21599; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:29:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac8.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms In-Reply-To: <390CC152.9DC6CC07@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an older -CURRENT. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: > > > > > > Ok, I checked, and vmstat shows cpu usage to be quite normal, about 6% > > > while playing. What's up w/ top? > > > > > > > Xmms on my SMP current machine: top shows 40 to 43% system > > vmstat shows 10 to 11% > > > > vmstat -w 1 matches top exactly about 41-43% system on my box. > > -- > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 19:33:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3664537B6D3 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000501023348.RITF18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:33:48 -0700 Message-ID: <390CECD3.AF962505@home.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:32:51 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.15pre20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Wayne Culver , "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting > with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start > happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an > older -CURRENT. > > I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) Aureal and any ESS equiped cards are excellent too. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 20:12:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D9C37B72C for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinson@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: from localhost (vinson@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) with SMTP id VAA18918 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:12:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:12:27 -0600 (MDT) From: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, I have some *gasp* actual usefull info about this. Backing /src/sys/dev/sound up by 10 days via anoncvs makes the "feature" go away. That narrows it down to kernel issues. I'm in the process of narowing it down to the specific diff, but if I had to cast a bet, i'd go for the massive change to pcm/dsp.c on the 23rd. More to come. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 20:24: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA7037B5F9 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:24:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (root@rac8.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.148]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23257; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA08530; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08526; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:23:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac8.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: "freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms In-Reply-To: <390CECD3.AF962505@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm, I don't know then, I'm using that ViBRA 16X which seems to cause problems a lot. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting > > with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start > > happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an > > older -CURRENT. > > > > > I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I > cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. > (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) Aureal and any ESS equiped > cards are excellent too. > > -- > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Apr 30 22:24:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FDE37B680 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000501052451.SYFT18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:24:51 -0700 Message-ID: <390D1575.DA3F4C01@home.com> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 01:26:13 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Wayne Culver , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > Hmm, I don't know then, I'm using that ViBRA 16X which seems to cause > problems a lot. > > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting > > > with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start > > > happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an > > > older -CURRENT. > > > > > > > > I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I > > cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. > > (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) > > The VibraX used to be the card everyone recommended to stay away from. It's not full-duplex. Early on it was hard writing for it (mostly due to lack of specs and noise problems). It seems most problems have been solved now. Like someone mentioned already I think it's a 4.0 problem. Xmms worked perfectly under 3.4 for me too. The eq problem appeared after the upgrades. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 2:18:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2DA37B77C for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 02:18:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8753C2CE65; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:18:03 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 515221C577C; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:18:06 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:18:06 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Jeroen Hogeveen Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kde2pre: is it FreeBSD or Kde fault? Message-ID: <20000501111806.A13016@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <390C8E8C.6050005@EFMSoftware.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <390C8E8C.6050005@EFMSoftware.COM>; from jh@EFMSoftware.COM on Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 09:50:36PM +0200 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?AS_Matti_B=C3=BCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Apr 30, 2000 at 09:50:36PM +0200, Jeroen Hogeveen wrote: > You can try to edit the libtool file in the kdelibs > directory to set deplibs="$deplibs -lc -lgcc" (around > line number 2600). > > This will link the __eh_rtime_match. > > I still get a nonworking khtm however.. : > > khtml (cache): CachedImage::ref() > khtml (cache): Cache::notify() > konqueror: KCrash: crashing.... crashRecursionCounter = 0 > konqueror: KCrash: Appname = 0x8073fb0 apppath = 0x0 > konqueror: Unable to start dr. konqi > DCOP: unregister 'konqueror'kio (KIOConnection): read > kio (kioslave): slavewrapper: Communication with app lost. > Returning to slave pool. Thanks, I'll give it a try when I get time. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 2:43:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pogo.caustic.org (pogo.caustic.org [208.44.193.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7652437B6F0 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 02:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@caustic.org) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by pogo.caustic.org (8.10.0/ignatz) with ESMTP id e419kif56456; Mon, 1 May 2000 02:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 02:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "f.johan.beisser" To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel breakage in ng_base.c In-Reply-To: <200004301335.PAA00747@peedub.muc.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hrm, i'm sad to report that it did not work for me.. let me know if you need output from it, i'll see about sending it to you. -- jan On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > Here's a simple patch which works for me. > > --- /sys/netgraph/ng_base.c Sun Apr 30 11:32:22 2000 > +++ /sys/netgraph/ng_base.c_mod Sun Apr 30 11:40:24 2000 > @@ -314,11 +314,16 @@ > int error; > > /* Not found, try to load it as a loadable module */ > +#if 0 > snprintf(filename, sizeof(filename), "ng_%s.ko", typename); > if ((path = linker_search_path(filename)) == NULL) > return (ENXIO); > error = linker_load_file(path, &lf); > FREE(path, M_LINKER); > +#else > + snprintf(filename, sizeof(filename), "ng_%s", typename); > + error = linker_load_file(filename, &lf); > +#endif > if (error != 0) > return (error); > lf->userrefs++; /* pretend loaded by the syscall */ > > > -------- > Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > +-----/ f. johan beisser /------------------------------+ email: jan[at]caustic.org web: http://www.caustic.org/~jan "knowledge is power. power corrupts. study hard, be evil." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 6:35:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F2E.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07CE37B5B8 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 06:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA04301; Mon, 1 May 2000 15:30:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005011330.PAA04301@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel breakage in ng_base.c Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2000 11:44:14 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:30:08 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "f.johan.beisser" writes: > >hrm, i'm sad to report that it did not work for me.. > >let me know if you need output from it, i'll see about sending it to you. > >-- jan > >On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >> Here's a simple patch which works for me. >> [patch deleted] Well, I only have a simple requirement - PPPoE has to work. ng_socket.ko gets loaded just fine for me, but I'm not really certain that ng_base.c is doing the loading. I think the best thing would be to wait for Peter to finish the commit since he knows what's intended to be used here. However, it might be worth posting your error output to the list as an aid in finding the correct fix :) --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 7:14:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7B737BC01 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 07:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (root@rac9.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.149]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20953; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16137; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16126; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:14:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac9.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:14:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms In-Reply-To: <390D1575.DA3F4C01@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It was working perfectly about 10 days ago. It stopped working right after one or two major commits. And also, it's in 5.0-CURRENT, not 4.0 ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Mon, 1 May 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > Hmm, I don't know then, I'm using that ViBRA 16X which seems to cause > > problems a lot. > > > > > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > > Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting > > > > with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start > > > > happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an > > > > older -CURRENT. > > > > > > > > > > > I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I > > > cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. > > > (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) > > > > > The VibraX used to be the card everyone recommended to stay away from. > It's not full-duplex. Early on it was hard writing for it (mostly due to > lack of specs and noise problems). It seems most problems have been > solved now. Like someone mentioned already > I think it's a 4.0 problem. Xmms worked perfectly under 3.4 for > me too. The eq problem appeared after the upgrades. > > -- > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 9:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F2F37B8A4 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 460731F39; Mon, 1 May 2000 18:36:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 18:36:17 +0200 From: Pascal Hofstee To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com, "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms Message-ID: <20000501183617.A91188@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl References: <390D1575.DA3F4C01@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from culverk@wam.umd.edu on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:14:34AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 10:14:34AM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > It was working perfectly about 10 days ago. It stopped working right after > one or two major commits. And also, it's in 5.0-CURRENT, not 4.0 I fully agree with this statement ... I am having some of the same weird things ahppening to sound on my GUS MAX since (i think) the first major commit that was supposed to fix some issues with pcm. After that all my wav files seem to skip the first x frames of sound. (where everything has just worked perfectly before that specific commit.) take a soundfile like this: 1234567890 plays as 67890 1234 plays as -- Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 10:50:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0CE37BCD1 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinson@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: from localhost (vinson@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) with SMTP id LAA11807 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:50:18 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:50:18 -0600 (MDT) From: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: high CPU usage by xmms In-Reply-To: <20000501183617.A91188@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, more in the sound department: A current src/sys/dev/sound with a src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/dsp.c from the 22nd does not exhibit the high load problem. Moving dsp.c to the 24th causes the problem to re-appear. Thus, I'm prety convinced tha the big commit on the 23rd to dsp.c is the cause of at least my woes. However, I had major problems is onther areas with running dsp.c out of sync with the rest of the sound dir, so I RERALLY DON'T RECOMEND IT(not that you may care what I think). The workaround that has worked for me on three machines is to revert ALL of sys/dev/sound back to the 20th. If I get really bored in a couple of weeks, I may try to hammer out a patch, but I've got no familiarity with the code, so someone who understands it, or can do it sooner, might want to take a look. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 10:51:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9714537B511 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: from bp (helo=localhost) by relay.butya.kz with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12mKLc-000EY4-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:51:08 +0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 00:51:07 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: loader updated to handle module metadata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Loader was updated to handle module metadata which was introduced by recent updates in kernel linker. This is related to a new way of declaration of module dependencies. -- Boris Popov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 11:37:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from MexComUSA.Net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FBF37C547 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-200-120-84.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.84]) by MexComUSA.Net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA48780; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:36:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <390DCE82.EE510F23@EnContacto.Net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:35:46 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Cattelan Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: WaveLan wi0 References: <390BB786.DACB600E@EnContacto.Net> <390DC29F.9887C12E@thebarn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now I have it recognized with without the irq and I/O space problem because I had an irq 9 conflict but now I am getting : wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 9 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: Ethernet address: 00:60:1d:03:f4:08 wi0: device timeout wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: xmit failed wi0: device timeout wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: xmit failed It worked fine with this configuration on current for many months. I'm not sure if I am making progress or not:-) ed I'm using 5.0 current as of this morning. Russell Cattelan wrote: > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > On today's current, I plugged in my WaveLan Card that I haven't used for > > about a week and it first has a problem with IRQ: wi0: No irq?! I > > added some others and it responded with: wi0: No I/O space?! Has > > something changed in the last few days that would cause this? My > > network card DE-660 just keeps plugging away, thank goodness:-) > > > > Thanks for any help, > > That card is really sensitive to what base address and what irq is > used, it can't conflict with anything. > > I've had better luck with setting the io to 0x100 in pccard.conf. > irq 9 has worked, if you aren't using the parallel port disable it > in the bios then irq 7 will be free. > > Now if I can only figure out why after upgrading my 4.0-RELEASE > to the latest 4.0 the pccardd stops reading any info from the card. > > May 1 00:46:19 lupo pccardd[68136]: No card in database for ""("") > > > > > > > ed > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 11:38:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.aracnet.com (mail2.aracnet.com [216.99.193.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D9C37C13A for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sf@aracnet.com) Received: from mephistopheles2 (max1-197-40.cust.aracnet.com [216.99.197.40]) by mail2.aracnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26658 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:39:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:37:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Flatman X-Sender: sf@mephistopheles To: current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel panic: swapon Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cvsup'ed this morning and built world. All went swimmingly until reboot. I got this kernel panic: swapon: adding /dev/da0s2b as swap device panic: blst_radix_free: freeing free block The ordering of the swap partions does matter. If /dev/da0s2b is first in /etc/fstab the panic occurs, if it's second no panic. === swapinfo === Device 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Type /dev/rda2s2b 256912 0 256912 0% Interleaved /dev/da0s2b 256912 0 256912 0% Interleaved Total 513824 0 513824 0% === /etc/fstab === # Device Mountpoint FStype Option Dump Pass# #/dev/da0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/da0s4e /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da0s3e /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da1s1a /u1 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/da2s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da2s1a /u2 ufs rw 2 2 /dev/cd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/da0s2b none swap sw 0 0 #mount -t mfs -o rw,-s131072 /dev/da0s2b /tmp /dev/da0s2b /tmp mfs rw,-s131072 0 0 === dmesg === Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #9: Mon May 1 10:30:11 PDT 2000 sf@mephistopheles:/u2/src/sys/compile/MEPHISTOPHELES Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 451024690 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (451.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 268419072 (262128K bytes) avail memory = 257847296 (251804K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0318000. VESA: v1.2, 2048k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc00c09da (c00009da) VESA: S3 Incorporated. Trio64V+ Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 4.1 pci0: at 4.2 intpm0: port 0xe800-0xe80f irq 9 at device 4.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped e800 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision -1072247040 smbus0: on intsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped e400 ed0: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 7 at device 9.0 on pci0 ed0: address 00:00:06:00:0a:79, type NE2000 (16 bit) sym0: <875> port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xe2800000-0xe2800fff,0xe3000000-0xe30000ff irq 14 at device 10.0 on pci0 sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking rl0: port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xe2000000-0xe20000ff irq 15 at device 11.0 on pci0 rl0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:29:61:2f:f6 miibus0: on rl0 rlphy0: on miibus0 rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 12.0 irq 10 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown0: at iomem 0-0x9ffff,0x100000-0xfffffff,0xe8000-0xeffff,0xf0000-0xf3fff,0xf4000-0xf7fff,0xf8000-0xfffff,0xca000-0xcbfff,0xfffe0000-0xffffffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown1: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 unknown2: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown3: at port 0xf0 irq 13 on isa0 unknown4: at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x90,0x94-0x9f,0xc0-0xde drq 4 on isa0 unknown5: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown6: at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources esscontrol0: at port 0x800-0x807 on isa0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331 irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 unknown7: at port 0x201 on isa0 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 5.681MB/s transfers (5.681MHz, offset 15) cd0: cd present [68537 x 2048 byte records] da2 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) ==== kernel config ==== # machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident MEPHISTOPHELES maxusers 64 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device,NFS required options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=5000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SHMMAX="(64*1024*1024)" options SHMMNI=4096 options SHMSEG=256 # # see /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates # and /usr/src/sys/contrib/softupdates/README # # cd /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs # ln -s ../../contrib/softupdates/*.[ch] . # add "options SOFTUPDATES" to kernel config and compile kernel # on UNMOUNTED filesystem: tunefs -n enable /usr [tunefs -n disable] # options SOFTUPDATES device isa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # SCSI Controllers device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # The following option probably won't work with the LCD displays. options VGA_WIDTH90 # support 90 column modes # To include support for VESA video modes options VESA # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports #device sio0 at isa? port io_com1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. device miibus # MII bus support ### SMC 1211TX PCI NIC device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 ### NE2000 PCI NIC device ed # SMB # trying to get motherboard core voltage and fan speed device smbus # Bus support, required for smb below. # Intel PIIX4 Power Management Unit device intpm device smb # For PnP/PCI sound cards device pcm device sbc # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun 1 # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 11:42:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB48D37B782 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:42:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4561CDF; Mon, 1 May 2000 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Boris Popov Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader updated to handle module metadata In-Reply-To: Message from Boris Popov of "Tue, 02 May 2000 00:51:07 +0700." Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:42:12 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000501184212.0E4561CDF@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Boris Popov wrote: > Loader was updated to handle module metadata which was introduced > by recent updates in kernel linker. This is related to a new way of > declaration of module dependencies. Not only that, but once we've settled on a versioning scheme, we will be using dependency tags with version numbers in order to detect incompatable interface changes before the kld gets a chance to crash the system. In a nutshell, we have a couple of MODULE_*() macros that create small data structures in linker_set's. The loader now knows *exactly* what is in the static kernel, and *exactly* what is inside a kld file. Remember, a kld can have zero or more "modules", and many do. miibus.ko, for example has about 12 modules and none are actually called "miibus". The key thin here is that if you compile 'device miibus' into your kernel, the loader can see it, and if you try and preload one of the miibus drivers (eg: if_dc, if_vr etc), the loader will now know that it does not need to preload a 'miibus' module from somewhere. How these are packaged has an effect on the overall scheme of things. As a hypothetical example, it would be possible to do this: ld -shared -o netbundle.ko setdef0.o if_dc.kld if_vr.kld if_xl.kld \ miibus.kld setdef1.o If you then preloaded 'netbundle', then you will get a whole stack of modules in one chunk. If you then kldload if_sk (another miibus user), it would automatically become a dependency on netbundle.ko in order to use the miibus code contained within it's internals. If you hand't loaded netbundle.ko (or something else that contained the miibus internals) then it would guess and try and load miibus.ko for you. One thing that I have on my TODO list is an inversion of the kernel build mechanism so that config(8)'s replacement arranges for building all these intermediate .kld file bundles according to your compile options. (eg: SMP, INVARIANTS etc). As a final step, the build process takes these .kld intermediate files and produces a static kernel and/or the final kld packaging you requested. Of course, getting this all finished and working is proving to be 'entertaining' :-). Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 12:41: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.telemere.net (shell.telemere.net [63.224.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27A137BB86 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from visigoth@telemere.net) Received: by shell.telemere.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D595970601; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.telemere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D1F6C801 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:38:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Visigoth To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Header includes and defines in freebsd 4-Stable [ISC-Bugs#102] (bind9) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings all.. It seems that there may be a small socket implementation issue with freebsd 4-Stable. I have been in disscussion with a few people from the isc bind 9 bug tracking department, and it seems that for the macro CMSG_NXTHDR to function in freebsd , the macro ALIGN must be defined. With both freebsd 3.4 as well as 4 that is defined in machine/param.h, but it seems that there is an include trail in releng 3 which makes that header eventually be included. I havent traced the include path yet, but I know that bind 9 compiles on freebsd 3 but not 4. The solution as I saw it (probably wrong ;) is to include either sys/param.h (which includes machine/param.h) or to include machine/param.h directly in the header which seems dependant on it which is sys/socket.h Below is some of the conversation with the developers for bind 9. I don't claim to know the repercussions of including either one in socket.h so go easy ;) just trying to get bind 9 to compile... ISC as decided to include sys/param.h in the bind 9 betas, but they would prefer if we "fixed" the includes because freebsd seems to be the only os with this issue... Thanks for all of the wonderful work everybody! Visigoth Damieon Stark Sr. Unix Systems Administrator visigoth@telemere.net ____________________________________________________________________________ | - M$ Win 2K was built for the internet. | - Unix _BUILT_ the internet. | FreeBSD - The POWER to serve | http://www.freebsd.org your call... | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Graff via RT To: visigoth@telemere.net Subject: [ISC-Bugs #102] (bind9) Compiling bind 9 b2 on freebsd 4.0-STABLE > grep ALIGN lib/isc/unix/*.c [nothing] > grep ALIGN /usr/include/sys/socket.h (struct cmsghdr *)((caddr_t)(cmsg) + ALIGN((cmsg)->cmsg_len))) That line is from the CMSG_NXTHDR() macro, which is how ipv6 options are set, among other things. If the socket.h file needs it (which it clearly does) it should arrange to have it included. >From "man socket" on FreeBSD, it indicates that: SYNOPSIS #include #include is enough. There is no man page for CMSG_NXTHDR. In any case, FreeBSD needs the ALIGN() macro for socket.h's compiliction if the CMSG_NXTHDR() macro is used. Other OSs include whatever files are necessary. We have added inclusion of for now, but once FreeBSD fixes their files we'll remove that, as it really isn't needed by anything other than FreeBSD. --Michael Visigoth via RT writes: > On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Michael Graff via RT wrote: > > > (David C Lawrence) via RT writes: > > > > > I concur with Michael that it is a FreeBSD problem. A header file > > > should not depend on another header file having been included; any > > > functionality that the file provides that depends on another file in > > > order to work means the other file should be included. > > > > Not only that, but including a file should never, ever, > > happen from a portable program. > > > I couldn't agree with you more, which is why my patch included > sys/param.h which in turn includes machine/param.h. > > > > > I believe we do include which I was told would fix some > > of this, but really, FreeBSD's socket.h should include that if it > > depends on things in it. > > as of bind9 beta 2 does not include sys/param.h in > lib/isc/unix/socket.c, and I would disagree that defining ALIGN is not > necissary for a proper socket implementation. freebsd's own sys/socket.h > doesn't require support for ALIGN, only your (wonderful new) code does. I > don't mean to turn this into a large issue, but to my (and a few > others) best understanding your socket.c should include sys/param.h. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 12:43:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8846737B789 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA95632; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Adam Cc: Jonathan Lemon , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:56:56 EDT." Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 12:33:11 -0700 Message-ID: <95629.957209591@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Not sure if this is a silly question or not, but could the kernel somehow > view a specific dir on a ext2fs disk as the freebsd root and boot a > freebsd system from it? Also being able to access the stuff below the I think there's a more general need to have a loader variable which you can set for "chrootdir", that being the subdirectory of the rootfs which becomes "/". Such a feature would be good for a lot more than just hosting a FreeBSD system inside your existing Red Hat installation. :) Booting multiple versions of FreeBSD without having to play partition games comes to mind.. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 12:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BD537BDC6 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03141; Mon, 1 May 2000 12:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005011959.MAA03141@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2000 12:33:11 PDT." <95629.957209591@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 12:59:51 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Not sure if this is a silly question or not, but could the kernel somehow > > view a specific dir on a ext2fs disk as the freebsd root and boot a > > freebsd system from it? Also being able to access the stuff below the > > I think there's a more general need to have a loader variable which > you can set for "chrootdir", that being the subdirectory of the rootfs > which becomes "/". Such a feature would be good for a lot more than > just hosting a FreeBSD system inside your existing Red Hat > installation. :) Booting multiple versions of FreeBSD without having > to play partition games comes to mind.. What sort of fallback behaviour would you want in case of error here? Calling chroot() inside the kernel before invoking init would be fairly easy, and I think that's all you'd need to get DWIM behaviour. (It might not be perfect, but it'd be pretty damn close.) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 13:14:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nimitz.ca.sandia.gov (nimitz.ca.sandia.gov [146.246.243.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5D237C124 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 13:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@nimitz.ca.sandia.gov) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by nimitz.ca.sandia.gov (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e41KCkp36081; Mon, 1 May 2000 13:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200005012012.e41KCkp36081@nimitz.ca.sandia.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1-cvs 10/15/1999 To: Visigoth Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Header includes and defines in freebsd 4-Stable [ISC-Bugs#102] (bind9) In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to Visigoth message dated "Mon, 01 May 2000 14:38:21 -0500." From: bmah@acm.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@acm.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Url: http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_687767724P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:12:46 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_687767724P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Visigoth wrote: > It seems that there may be a small socket implementation issue > with freebsd 4-Stable. I have been in disscussion with a few people from > the isc bind 9 bug tracking department, and it seems that for the macro > CMSG_NXTHDR to function in freebsd , the macro ALIGN must be > defined. We went through this exact same issue about six weeks ago, the problem being that pchar (a network measurement utility I wrote) needed the CMSG_* macros and started failing to build under 4.0-CURRENT. (I needed these macros for IPv6.) I lost track of the discussion for several reasons, but you can check the -current mailing list archives (look for CMSG_NXTHDR or some such thing like this). According to a very quick perusal of the CVS repository, it hasn't been solved yet. (i.e. FreeBSD still requires for CMSG_* to work properly.) Yoshinobu Inoue is probably the best person to ask for more information on this. Bruce. --==_Exmh_687767724P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: WtaiZhd1qfG9svoJuWrRKqGrUHEoPH1q iQA/AwUBOQ3lPtjKMXFboFLDEQLs5wCeJugjy4JVmqTxuK6Y4orWSmckBucAoJfx bmN1O2Zs0aGqsMNGDxnidmrj =lqVw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_687767724P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 14:31:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AF937C0EC for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 14:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id XAA54086 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:31:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10249 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:29:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:29:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot with 2 printers In-Reply-To: <021701bfb0a8$54a113a0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Leif Neland wrote: > Sorry not to have details at hand but anyways: > > Current cvsupped today. > > I have 2 parallel ports in use. > > I have had no problems with kernels dated 2 weeks or older, but since a few > days ago, the system crashes at boot while probing the parallel ports. "Page > fault while in supervisor mode", (I seem to remember vaguely) > OK: Here is bootmessages with BUS_DEBUG transcribed by hand: devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppc in devclass isa device_probe_child:639: Trying ppc ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode device_add_child_ordered:525:ppbus at ppc with order 0 as unit -1 make_device:455:ppbus at ppc as unit -1 devclass_find_internal:113:looking for ppbus devclass_add_device:400:(null) om devclass ppbus devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit -1 in devclass ppbus devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 0 in devclass ppbus devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppbus in devclass ppc device_probe_child:639:Trying ppbus device_add_child_ordered:525:ppi at ppbus with order 0 as unit 0 make_device:455:ppi at ppbus as unit 0 devclass_add_device:400:(null) om devclass ppi devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit 0 in devclass ppi devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 0 in devclass ppi device_add_child_ordered:525:lpt at ppbus with order 0 as unit 0 make_device:455:lpt at ppbus as unit 0 devclass_find_internal:113:looking for lpt devclass_add_device:400:(null) in devclass lpt devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit 0 in devclass lpt devclass_alloc_unit:399:now:unit0 in devclass lpt devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppi in devclass ppbus device_probe_child:639:Trying ppi ppi0: on ppbus0 ppi0:can't allocate irq device_probe_and_attach:ppi0 attach returned 12 devclass_find_driver_internal:253:lpt in devclass ppbus device_probe_child:639:Trying lpt lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0:polled port devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppc in devclass isa device_probe_child:639:Trying ppc ppc1: parallel port found at 0x278 ppc1: SPP ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa 0 ppc1:Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode device_add_child_ordered:525:ppbus at ppc with order 0 as unit -1 make_device:455:ppbus at ppc as unit -1 devclass_find_internal:113:looking for ppbus devclass_add_device:400:(null) in devclass ppbus devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit -1 in devclass ppbus devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 1 in devclass ppbus devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppbus in devclass ppc device_probe_child:639:Trying ppbus Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual adress = 0xf0 ... stopped at bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a5cac,0(%ebx) ebx = 0xf0 Here's dmesg.boot for an older kernel which works. Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #23: Tue Mar 14 06:08:53 CET 2000 root@gina.neland.dk:/usr/src/sys/compile/ARNOLD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P5 (59.97-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping = 5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 117440512 (114688K bytes) avail memory = 110841856 (108244K bytes) Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem 0x20000000-0x200000ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 6.0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3cf iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA (mono) <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16450 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 ppc1: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi1: on ppbus1 lpt1: on ppbus1 lpt1: Interrupt-driven port ed0 at port 0x340-0x35f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0 ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:80:c8:ff:fe:18:9c:c2 ed0: address 00:80:c8:18:9c:c2, type NE2000 (16 bit) pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 isic0: at port 0x200-0x201,0x202-0x203 irq 9 on isa0 i4b-L1-isic_isac_exir_hdlr: EXIRQ Rx Frame Overflow i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached i4bipr: 4 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4btrc: 2 ISDN trace device(s) attached Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) Mounting root from ufs:da0s1a da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da2: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 19:51: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from MexComUSA.Net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A2437BA3B for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-200-120-84.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.84]) by MexComUSA.Net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA52454 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <390E4287.E9748DE9@EnContacto.Net> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 19:50:47 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot with 2 printers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had the opposite problem. ppc0: parallel port not found. for about the same period of time. ed Leif Neland wrote: > On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Leif Neland wrote: > > > Sorry not to have details at hand but anyways: > > > > Current cvsupped today. > > > > I have 2 parallel ports in use. > > > > I have had no problems with kernels dated 2 weeks or older, but since a few > > days ago, the system crashes at boot while probing the parallel ports. "Page > > fault while in supervisor mode", (I seem to remember vaguely) > > > OK: Here is bootmessages with BUS_DEBUG transcribed by hand: > > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppc in devclass isa > device_probe_child:639: Trying ppc > ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 > ppc0: SPP > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > device_add_child_ordered:525:ppbus at ppc with order 0 as unit -1 > make_device:455:ppbus at ppc as unit -1 > devclass_find_internal:113:looking for ppbus > devclass_add_device:400:(null) om devclass ppbus > devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit -1 in devclass ppbus > devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 0 in devclass ppbus > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppbus in devclass ppc > device_probe_child:639:Trying ppbus > device_add_child_ordered:525:ppi at ppbus with order 0 as unit 0 > make_device:455:ppi at ppbus as unit 0 > devclass_add_device:400:(null) om devclass ppi > devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit 0 in devclass ppi > devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 0 in devclass ppi > device_add_child_ordered:525:lpt at ppbus with order 0 as unit 0 > make_device:455:lpt at ppbus as unit 0 > devclass_find_internal:113:looking for lpt > devclass_add_device:400:(null) in devclass lpt > devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit 0 in devclass lpt > devclass_alloc_unit:399:now:unit0 in devclass lpt > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppi in devclass ppbus > device_probe_child:639:Trying ppi > ppi0: on ppbus0 > ppi0:can't allocate irq > device_probe_and_attach:ppi0 attach returned 12 > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:lpt in devclass ppbus > device_probe_child:639:Trying lpt > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0:polled port > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppc in devclass isa > device_probe_child:639:Trying ppc > ppc1: parallel port found at 0x278 > ppc1: SPP > ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa 0 > ppc1:Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > device_add_child_ordered:525:ppbus at ppc with order 0 as unit -1 > make_device:455:ppbus at ppc as unit -1 > devclass_find_internal:113:looking for ppbus > devclass_add_device:400:(null) in devclass ppbus > devclass_alloc_unit:343:unit -1 in devclass ppbus > devclass_alloc_unit:389:now:unit 1 in devclass ppbus > devclass_find_driver_internal:253:ppbus in devclass ppc > device_probe_child:639:Trying ppbus > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual adress = 0xf0 > ... > stopped at bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a5cac,0(%ebx) > > ebx = 0xf0 > > Here's dmesg.boot for an older kernel which works. > > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #23: Tue Mar 14 06:08:53 CET 2000 > root@gina.neland.dk:/usr/src/sys/compile/ARNOLD > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > CPU: Pentium/P5 (59.97-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x515 Stepping = 5 > Features=0x1bf > real memory = 117440512 (114688K bytes) > avail memory = 110841856 (108244K bytes) > Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > ncr0: port 0xd100-0xd1ff mem 0x20000000-0x200000ff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 > ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims > isab0: at device 2.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > pci0: at 6.0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3cf iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > sc0: on isa0 > sc0: VGA (mono) <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 > sio1: type 16450 > ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppi0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Polled port > ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 > ppc1: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > ppi1: on ppbus1 > lpt1: on ppbus1 > lpt1: Interrupt-driven port > ed0 at port 0x340-0x35f iomem 0xd8000 irq 10 on isa0 > ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:80:c8:ff:fe:18:9c:c2 > ed0: address 00:80:c8:18:9c:c2, type NE2000 (16 bit) > pca0 at port 0x40 on isa0 > isic0: at port 0x200-0x201,0x202-0x203 irq 9 on isa0 > i4b-L1-isic_isac_exir_hdlr: EXIRQ Rx Frame Overflow > i4b: ISDN call control device attached > i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached > i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached > i4bipr: 4 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) > i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached > i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached > i4btrc: 2 ISDN trace device(s) attached > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da1: 4101MB (8399520 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) > da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 522C) > Mounting root from ufs:da0s1a > da2 at ncr0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 > da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > da2: 4134MB (8467200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) > > Leif > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 20:57:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFEE37B79A; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14697; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:59:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2000 12:59:51 PDT." <200005011959.MAA03141@mass.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: <14694.957239995@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What sort of fallback behaviour would you want in case of error here? Just let chroot() either succeed or fail. It's own "fallback behavior" in such a case should prove adequate. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 20:59:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25ED337B6DE for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22251; Mon, 1 May 2000 21:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005020408.VAA22251@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2000 20:59:55 PDT." <14694.957239995@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:08:02 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > What sort of fallback behaviour would you want in case of error here? > > Just let chroot() either succeed or fail. It's own "fallback behavior" > in such a case should prove adequate. :) Hmm. Failure to chroot == failure to start init? -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 21:46:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pnv.net (mail.pnv.com [209.67.22.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E26937BA36 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 21:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ahk@pnv.net) Received: from darkstar [12.21.37.29] by pnv.net (SMTPD32-6.00) id A0722870004C; Tue, 02 May 2000 00:58:26 -0400 From: Tony Kruchas To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:45:49 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00050123464000.02960@darkstar> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG auth b614398f subscribe freebsd-current ahk@pnv.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 23:50: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (mta1.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B0437BAD5; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 82o8@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net ([207.215.186.168]) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FTX00E6B6MSKN@mta1.snfc21.pbi.net>; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (user38@localhost) by ibis.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA26116 for ; Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:17:51 -0800 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 18:03:33 -0800 From: The Digital Yearbook Subject: Hello High School Alumni X-Sender: 7a80@earthlink.net To: 2z3E@aol.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear High School Alumni, This email is to inform you of a new website that allows you to stay in touch with your high school friends. www.tdyalumni.com Wouldn't it be great to surprise an old friend with an email. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon May 1 23:57:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADFE37B865 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 23:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14097; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:55:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA21915; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005020655.AAA21915@harmony.village.org> To: Soren Schmidt Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? Cc: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer), current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:52:44 +0200." <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> References: <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 00:55:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Soren Schmidt writes: : Ehm, is that a warning you have written or ?? I certainly havn't : issued this warning as the maintainer/author of the ata driver... I think that I wrote it, and that it is basically wrong. I'll look into correcting it. I think that the warnding should likely be changed to: if you have crappy disks, you'll be beter off in pio mode :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 0:13:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9A537B8CD for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA72095; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:12:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200005020712.JAA72095@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005020655.AAA21915@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "May 2, 2000 00:55:12 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:12:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Warner Losh wrote: > In message <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Soren Schmidt writes: > : Ehm, is that a warning you have written or ?? I certainly havn't > : issued this warning as the maintainer/author of the ata driver... > > I think that I wrote it, and that it is basically wrong. I'll look > into correcting it. > > I think that the warnding should likely be changed to: > if you have crappy disks, you'll be beter off in pio mode :-) Good wording :) I've run tests on everything I can get my hands on with my MVP3 based chaintec board, and it "just works", so I dont think the ata driver has a problem with this chipset. However as I said earlier, it _could_ be that VIA has changed vital things in a new rev of the 82c586, but I havn't seen any evidence to this (yet)... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 0:29:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BB937B6A6 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 00:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.com (p3E9C1148.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.156.17.72]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28610; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:26:16 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19979AC2C; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:31:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03059; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:27:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:27:19 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Peter Wemm Cc: Boris Popov , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader updated to handle module metadata Message-ID: <20000502092719.A2489@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Wemm , Boris Popov , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000501184212.0E4561CDF@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000501184212.0E4561CDF@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@netplex.com.au on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:42:12AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Peter Wemm (peter@netplex.com.au): > ld -shared -o netbundle.ko setdef0.o if_dc.kld if_vr.kld if_xl.kld \ > miibus.kld setdef1.o > If you then preloaded 'netbundle', then you will get a whole stack of > modules in one chunk. If you then kldload if_sk (another miibus user), it [...] Wow! That sounds awesome! I wish you good luck with implementing this *eg* Alex -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 2:51:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1F037B50C; Tue, 2 May 2000 02:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id TAA01511; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:22:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:22:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: hardware@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Anybody using Epox EP-7KXA Athlon motherboard? Message-ID: <20000502192207.A549@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just got a new Athlon machine with an Epox EP-7KXA motherboard. It comes highly recommended, but I have some severe problems with the timekeeping: it seems that the BIOS does not allow me to disable APM, and the 8254 timekeeping goes crazy, running up to 10 times as fast as real time. Does anybody else have one of these boards? Have you seen the problem? (How) did you fix it? If not, does anybody know the incantations to disable the APM during system startup? If so, I'll play around with it myself. I'm attaching the dmesg output in case it's of any use. Greg Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Mon Mar 20 22:50:22 GMT 2000 root@monster.cdrom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (751.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x621 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0400000 real memory = 268369920 (262080K bytes) avail memory = 256479232 (250468K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03c0000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd000-0xd00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 10 chip2: port 0xe400-0xe403,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdcff irq 5 at device 7.5 on pci0 ahc0: port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xdb000000-0xdb000fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xdb001000-0xdb00107f irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:da:cf:17:97 miibus0: on xl0 xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: supplying EUI64: 00:50:da:ff:fe:cf:17:97 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: on ppbus0 ad0: 19574MB [39770/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA66 ad2: 19574MB [39770/16/63] at ata1-master using UDMA33 afd0: 120MB [963/8/32] at ata1-slave using PIO3 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 4: 6: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C82937B62D for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC13F18150 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:05:50 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:05:19 +0200 To: FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List From: Brad Knowles Subject: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, A thread on news.software.nntp got me checking into this, and now I've gotten very curious. From what I can determine, it looks like what is integrated into FreeBSD is Berkeley db 1.85 (in /usr/src/libc/db), although there is a port for 2.7.7 in /usr/ports/databases/db. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that db 1.85 is pretty widely known to be broken in a number of ways (see ), and I'm wondering what it would take to get this updated to at least 2.x, if not make the jump all the way to 3.x (currently at 3.0.55, according to )? On a related issue, as another Berkeley alumni, how easy would it be for Keith to get committer access to FreeBSD, assuming he wanted it (and doesn't have it already ;-)? Out of curiosity, is there a public list of all the people who have commit access to FreeBSD? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 4:16:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C5937B61E for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.freebsd.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10851; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:16:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Brad Knowles Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 13:05:19 +0200." Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:16:03 +0200 Message-ID: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Brad Knowles writes: >Folks, > > A thread on news.software.nntp got me checking into this, and now >I've gotten very curious. From what I can determine, it looks like >what is integrated into FreeBSD is Berkeley db 1.85 (in >/usr/src/libc/db), although there is a port for 2.7.7 in >/usr/ports/databases/db. > > Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that db 1.85 is >pretty widely known to be broken in a number of ways (see >), and I'm wondering what it >would take to get this updated to at least 2.x, if not make the jump >all the way to 3.x (currently at 3.0.55, according to >)? Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ > On a related issue, as another Berkeley alumni, how easy would it >be for Keith to get committer access to FreeBSD, assuming he wanted >it (and doesn't have it already ;-)? For maintaining db ? Sure. But I understand that the license issue holds up the upgrade to a newer DB and that Keith has no interest in maintaining the older version we use. > Out of curiosity, is there a public list of all the people who >have commit access to FreeBSD? Yes, it's in the CVS tree in the file CVSROOT/access and in the Handbook as well. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 4:42:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from RedDust.BlueSky.net.au (reddust.bluesky.net.au [203.31.37.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC1437B6A1 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 04:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from receiver@RedDust.BlueSky.net.au) Received: from localhost (receiver@localhost) by RedDust.BlueSky.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07422 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:43:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from receiver@RedDust.BlueSky.net.au) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 21:43:38 +1000 (EST) From: Idea Receiver To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My mail server was down for pass few days. Hope I didnt miss anything important! Today, I try to make world and then rebuild the kernel. After I restart the machine, it shows "Old-style KLD file linuxelf found" and "Old-style KLD file linuxaout found" and then core dumped. I tried to brandelf. but same message appear... Please help me! I believe I miss out something really important in pass few days.... thx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 5:28:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8817A37B6D4 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 31206 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 12:28:11 -0000 Received: from lc210.cvzoom.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (208.226.154.210) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 12:28:11 -0000 Message-ID: <390EC9DA.6213FD18@cvzoom.net> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:10 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idea Receiver Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Idea Receiver wrote: > > My mail server was down for pass few days. Hope I didnt miss anything > important! > > Today, I try to make world and then rebuild the kernel. > After I restart the machine, it shows "Old-style KLD file linuxelf found" > and "Old-style KLD file linuxaout found" and then core dumped. What you need to do is/ brandelf -t Linux compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig and then reboot. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 5:41:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A72C437B80A for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 05:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 5920 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 12:41:50 -0000 Received: from lc210.cvzoom.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (208.226.154.210) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 12:41:50 -0000 Message-ID: <390ECD0D.9D7CB6AE@cvzoom.net> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:41:49 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idea Receiver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? References: <390EC9DA.6213FD18@cvzoom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donn Miller wrote: > > Idea Receiver wrote: > > > > My mail server was down for pass few days. Hope I didnt miss anything > > important! > > > > Today, I try to make world and then rebuild the kernel. > > After I restart the machine, it shows "Old-style KLD file linuxelf found" > > and "Old-style KLD file linuxaout found" and then core dumped. > > What you need to do is/ > > brandelf -t Linux compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig > > and then reboot. Actually, I meant brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 6:51:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFFE37B853 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e42Dcbc07695; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:38:37 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200005021338.e42Dcbc07695@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005020712.JAA72095@freebsd.dk> from Soren Schmidt at "May 2, 2000 09:12:20 am" To: sos@freebsd.dk (Soren Schmidt) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:38:37 +0200 (SAT) Cc: imp@village.org (Warner Losh), alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It seems Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <200004300752.JAA74288@freebsd.dk> Soren Schmidt writes: > > : Ehm, is that a warning you have written or ?? I certainly havn't > > : issued this warning as the maintainer/author of the ata driver... > > > > I think that I wrote it, and that it is basically wrong. I'll look > > into correcting it. > > > > I think that the warnding should likely be changed to: > > if you have crappy disks, you'll be beter off in pio mode :-) > > Good wording :) Uhm. There is no way to turn it off when you do an installation. Interesting that those same disks work in the same UDMA33 mode on another motherboard with a different chipset. I have tried both Samsung and Seagate disks. I have also tried more than one motherboard and they do the same, so it isn't just a faulty board. I have also installed FreeBSD 3.4 on it and worked fine. I have also enabled DMA on that with flags setting and that also worked fine. > > I've run tests on everything I can get my hands on with my MVP3 > based chaintec board, and it "just works", so I dont think the > ata driver has a problem with this chipset. > However as I said earlier, it _could_ be that VIA has changed > vital things in a new rev of the 82c586, but I havn't seen any > evidence to this (yet)... A verbose dmesg with version numbers was sent in an email to -current with this id: <200004041755.TAA75436@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> But then maybe it is just me that have the problem. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 6:54: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92A137B853 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA66313; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:53:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200005021353.PAA66313@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005021338.e42Dcbc07695@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "May 2, 2000 03:38:37 pm" To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:53:06 +0200 (CEST) Cc: imp@village.org (Warner Losh), alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems John Hay wrote: > Interesting that those same disks work in the same UDMA33 mode on > another motherboard with a different chipset. I have tried both > Samsung and Seagate disks. I have also tried more than one > motherboard and they do the same, so it isn't just a faulty board. > I have also installed FreeBSD 3.4 on it and worked fine. I have > also enabled DMA on that with flags setting and that also worked > fine. What board make/version is this ? > > A verbose dmesg with version numbers was sent in an email to -current > with this id: > > <200004041755.TAA75436@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Cant seem to find that, could you mail me a copy of that please? > But then maybe it is just me that have the problem. Dunno, just because I can't reproduce it on any of the MVP3 baords I've access to doesn't mean a problem cant exist, so please get the above requested info in my mailbox and I'll see what i can do... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 6:58:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F8C37BA8A for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.com (p3E9C114C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [62.156.17.76]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23087; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:56:34 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A38AC2C; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:02:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03661; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:57:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 15:57:39 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: John Hay Cc: Soren Schmidt , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? Message-ID: <20000502155739.A3623@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: John Hay , Soren Schmidt , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200005020712.JAA72095@freebsd.dk> <200005021338.e42Dcbc07695@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005021338.e42Dcbc07695@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za>; from jhay@mikom.csir.co.za on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 03:38:37PM +0200 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake John Hay (jhay@mikom.csir.co.za): > But then maybe it is just me that have the problem. Yes. New world/kernel, no problems in UDMA33 mode with two UDMA-33 disks. Alex -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6F337B5B3 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA73367; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:24:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:24:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-Reply-To: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ Even worse, the 2.x file format is not FreeBSD compatible. Having already had one flag day between 1.x and 2.x (the FreeBSD versions) when the installed base was much, much smaller, we were not particularly inclined to have another one now that would screw many more users. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:40:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137EA37B53A for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:40:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navipath.com) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navipath.com with id e42EeYY08304; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:40:34 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Message-ID: <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:24:45AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been curious about this. Would someone clarify what in this license prevents FreeBSD from including it, at some level? _F Sleepycat Software Product Licensing Berkeley DB is an Open Sourcetm product, and complete source code is available from our Web site. If you build an application that you do not redistribute outside of your site, or if you build an application and your source code is freely available and redistributable by others, you may use Berkeley DB at no charge. You must, of course, abide by the terms of the copyrights that apply to the Berkeley DB software. If you redistribute your application outside of your site and your source code is not freely available and redistributable by others, then you require a commercial license from Sleepycat Software. Contact us for commercial licensing terms and pricing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:42: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C043037B5E4 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B5F1CDF; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Donn Miller Cc: Idea Receiver , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? In-Reply-To: Message from Donn Miller of "Tue, 02 May 2000 08:28:10 EDT." <390EC9DA.6213FD18@cvzoom.net> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 07:41:56 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000502144156.62B5F1CDF@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donn Miller wrote: > Idea Receiver wrote: > > > > My mail server was down for pass few days. Hope I didnt miss anything > > important! > > > > Today, I try to make world and then rebuild the kernel. > > After I restart the machine, it shows "Old-style KLD file linuxelf found" > > and "Old-style KLD file linuxaout found" and then core dumped. > > > What you need to do is/ > > brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig > > and then reboot. Actually, I'm not sure that I see how this has to do with the message above. What was reported was a diagnostic message from the kernel module loader about having a kernel with the new kld interface but an old-style kld. The original poster has just got the kernel and kld's out of sync. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:42: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD7A37B583 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tpnelson@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au) Received: from student.cowan.edu.au (pobax2-225.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.195.225]) by mail02.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29145 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:41:43 +1000 Message-ID: <390EE835.2345B624@student.cowan.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 22:37:41 +0800 From: Trent Nelson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problematic PNP probing, faulty /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------50BDD9A96E1B91F5FDD4D416" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------50BDD9A96E1B91F5FDD4D416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Originally cvsup'd and made world successfully on the 30th and found the following problems to occur. Cvsup'ing to a new -current and a new kernel still sees the same things occurring. Everything's detected at boot time hassle free (printer, sound, network card) so I have no idea what the PNP info stuff is in dmesg. I've got an Intel SunRiva M/B w/ the onboard TNT + ES1371 (detected correctly as can be seen) and a PCI ethernet card - nothing else is plugged in to the box. I've mentioned the ldconfig segfault problem as I'm under suspicion I have to do something extra (other than make world) to update the Linux kernel modules? Note, kldload/unload of linux.ko works hassle free - as soon as /usr/sbin/linux is executed from rc.i386, /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig is exec'd and cores. I'll re-compile with debugging if requested. FreeBSD breaker.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed May 3 05:20:41 WST 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/breaker_02May2000 i386 Thanks in advance. Regards, Trent. --------------50BDD9A96E1B91F5FDD4D416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg" Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed May 3 05:20:41 WST 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/breaker_02May2000 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (232.79-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping = 3 Features=0x80f9ff real memory = 66977792 (65408K bytes) avail memory = 60973056 (59544K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0346000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x440-0x44f at device 7.3 on pci0 pcm0: port 0xef00-0xef3f irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0 fxp0: port 0xee80-0xeebf mem 0xfea00000-0xfeafffff,0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 9 at device 14.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:04:ac:53:46:dd fxp0: supplying EUI64: 00:04:ac:ff:fe:53:46:dd fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER BJ,LQ,BJL,BJRaster,BSCC lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port unknown0: at iomem 0-0x9fbff,0x9fc00-0x9ffff,0xe0000-0xfffff,0x3fe0000-0x3ff7fff,0x3ff8000-0x3ffffff,0xfec00000-0xfec00fff,0xfee00000-0xfee00fff,0xfff80000-0xffffffff on isa0 unknown1: at iomem 0x100000-0x3fdffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown2: at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x90,0x94-0x9f,0xc0-0xde drq 4 on isa0 unknown3: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 unknown4: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown5: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown6: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 unknown7: at port 0x4d0-0x4d1,0xcf8-0xcff,0x10-0x1f,0x22-0x3f,0x50-0x52,0x72-0x77,0x91-0x93,0xa2-0xbe,0x400-0x43f,0x440-0x44f on isa0 unknown8: at port 0x290-0x297,0x370-0x371 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown9: on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown10: on isa0 ad0: 8063MB [16383/16/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 ad1: 3079MB [6256/16/63] at ata0-slave using UDMA33 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master using WDMA2 acd1: CDROM at ata1-slave using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: run /dev/MAKEDEV before 2000-06-01 to get rid of block devices pid 159 (ldconfig), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) --------------50BDD9A96E1B91F5FDD4D416 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="breaker_02May2000" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="breaker_02May2000" # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/Breaker_30Apr2000 breaker Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident breaker maxusers 512 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies device isa device eisa device pci device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices options SOFTUPDATES device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? device pcm pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) pseudo-device bpf # Berkeley packet filter device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic --------------50BDD9A96E1B91F5FDD4D416-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:42:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA56437BB8F for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e42EeYS09040; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:40:34 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200005021440.e42EeYS09040@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005021353.PAA66313@freebsd.dk> from Soren Schmidt at "May 2, 2000 03:53:06 pm" To: sos@freebsd.dk (Soren Schmidt) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:40:34 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It seems John Hay wrote: > > Interesting that those same disks work in the same UDMA33 mode on > > another motherboard with a different chipset. I have tried both > > Samsung and Seagate disks. I have also tried more than one > > motherboard and they do the same, so it isn't just a faulty board. > > I have also installed FreeBSD 3.4 on it and worked fine. I have > > also enabled DMA on that with flags setting and that also worked > > fine. > > What board make/version is this ? There is no name or version on the board itself. The box it came in said it is a "A+ Mainboard" and on the side there is a label that says "APRO/BAT Motherboard". And it is made in China. > > > > A verbose dmesg with version numbers was sent in an email to -current > > with this id: > > > > <200004041755.TAA75436@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> > > Cant seem to find that, could you mail me a copy of that please? Ok, done that. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:45:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AED37B583 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:45:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA78591; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:44:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200005021444.QAA78591@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005021440.e42EeYS09040@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "May 2, 2000 04:40:34 pm" To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:44:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems John Hay wrote: > > What board make/version is this ? > > There is no name or version on the board itself. The box it came in > said it is a "A+ Mainboard" and on the side there is a label that > says "APRO/BAT Motherboard". And it is made in China. Uhm.... > > > A verbose dmesg with version numbers was sent in an email to -current > > > with this id: > > > > > > <200004041755.TAA75436@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> > > > > Cant seem to find that, could you mail me a copy of that please? > > Ok, done that. Thanks, I'll look into it asap.... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:49: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D57137B525 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:48:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5351CD7; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-Reply-To: Message from Forrest Aldrich of "Tue, 02 May 2000 10:40:34 EDT." <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 07:48:55 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000502144855.7E5351CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I've been curious about this. Would someone clarify what in this > license prevents FreeBSD from including it, at some level? The problem is that we export the DB API from libc, and if anything uses the DB interface for a local application they'd be subject to the license below. Also, since DB 1.x is part of libc (including the getpwent() stuff for /etc/pwd.db etc), we're stuck with that file format as all binaries linked with that (or older libc major versions) versions of libc will not be able to lookup usernames if we change to 2.x. We could probably have a special hidden internal version of db 1.x to use within libc though. db 2.x+ is *way* too big to put in libc IMHO. For what it's worth, we do include it at "some level" - see ports/databases/ db.. This is safely out of the way of people using it accidently. > _F > > > Sleepycat Software Product Licensing > > Berkeley DB is an Open Sourcetm product, and complete source code is availabl e from our Web site. > > If you build an application that you do not redistribute outside of your site , or if you build an application and your source code is freely > available and redistributable by others, you may use Berkeley DB at no charge . You must, of course, abide by the terms of the copyrights > that apply to the Berkeley DB software. > > If you redistribute your application outside of your site and your source cod e is not freely available and redistributable by others, then you > require a commercial license from Sleepycat Software. Contact us for commerci al licensing terms and pricing. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 7:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sullivan.realtime.net (sullivan.realtime.net [205.238.128.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7168537B5D7; Tue, 2 May 2000 07:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brucegb@sullivan.realtime.net) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by sullivan.realtime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32528; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:52:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brucegb) From: Bruce Burden Message-Id: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net> Subject: problems with Ghostscript5/55/6 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:52:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to get Ghostscript running on a 4.0-STABLE environment. Here is what I get: Ghostscript5: Won't build - bash-2.03# make ===> Building for ghostscript-5.10 make: don't know how to make libpng/png.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript5. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript5. hmmm, okay, that is odd, considering the other two have png.3 dependencies, and they build... Ghostscript55: It will build and install. When I run "gs", I get: bash-2.03# gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/tiger.ps Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16) Copyright (C) 1998 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. >>showpage, press to continue<< GS> And there it sits. Nothing happending. ps -x shows: 3020 p5 I+ 0:00.70 gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/tiger.ps Ghostscript6: This, too, will build and install. When I run "gs" this time, I get: bash-2.03# gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/6.01/examples/tiger.ps Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 (2000-03-17) Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Error: /invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage-- Operand stack: 1 true Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- 0 4 %oparray_pop --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:929/983(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:67/200(L)-- --dict:45/100(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 78508 Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 bash-2.03# Sigh. Any ideas or suggestions? Thank you, Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8: 0:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9703337B7DD for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07759; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:00:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:00:20 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Message-ID: <20000502100020.B29588@dan.emsphone.com> References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.12i In-Reply-To: <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com>; from "Forrest Aldrich" on Tue May 2 10:40:34 GMT 2000 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (May 02), Forrest Aldrich said: > I've been curious about this. Would someone clarify what in this > license prevents FreeBSD from including it, at some level? Basically, the part that says > If you redistribute your application outside of your site and your > source code is not freely available and redistributable by others, > then you require a commercial license from Sleepycat Software. > Contact us for commercial licensing terms and pricing. .. means that a user that wanted to use FreeBSD in a commercial application would not be able to simply sell his product; he would have to get a license from Sleepycat. Since FreeBSD use Berkeley DB for passwd.db and other system databases, we would have to provide DB 3 for non-commercial users and DB 1.85 for commercial users. Neither DB 2 or 3 provide any features that FreeBSD needs (concurrent multi-user modification and transactions), so there's no great need to replace our current DB. Another big personal minus for me is that neither DB 2 or DB 3 will compile at all under DOS, so I can't write portable programs with them. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8: 3:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F63137BBC1 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tpnelson@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au) Received: from student.cowan.edu.au (pobax2-225.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.195.225]) by mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03907 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:03:00 +1000 Message-ID: <390EED31.6FB97635@student.cowan.edu.au> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 22:58:57 +0800 From: Trent Nelson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problematic PNP probing, faulty /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. References: <390EE835.2345B624@student.cowan.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trent Nelson wrote: > pid 159 (ldconfig), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) As suggested by Donn Miller in a previous thread, the command `brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig' fixes that up. Thanks. Trent. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:15: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A1837B8AC; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA03812; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:14:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:14:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Konrad Heuer To: Bruce Burden Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with Ghostscript5/55/6 In-Reply-To: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 May 2000, Bruce Burden wrote: > Ghostscript55: >=20 > =09It will build and install. When I run "gs", I get: >=20 > bash-2.03# gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/tiger.ps > Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16) > Copyright (C) 1998 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reser= ved. > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > >>showpage, press to continue<< >=20 > GS> >=20 >=20 > =09And there it sits. Nothing happending. ps -x shows: >=20 > 3020 p5 I+ 0:00.70 gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/t= iger.ps As far as I know, GS 5.5 is build w/o default output device; e.g. try to setenv GS_DEVICE x11=09or=09export GS_DEVICE=3Dx11 before starting gs. Maybe something similar applies to GS6. Regards Konrad Heuer Personal Bookmarks: Gesellschaft f=FCr wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH G=D6ttingen http://www.freebsd.org Am Fa=DFberg, D-37077 G=D6ttingen http://www.daemonnews.o= rg Deutschland (Germany) kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:15:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9317337BAFA for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 1711 invoked by uid 211); 2 May 2000 15:05:29 -0000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:35:29 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Bruce Burden Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with Ghostscript5/55/6 Message-ID: <20000502203529.A1682@physics.iisc.ernet.in> References: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net>; from brucegb@realtime.net on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 09:52:43AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 X-Question: Do you enjoy reading pointless headers? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ghostscript55: > > It will build and install. When I run "gs", I get: > > bash-2.03# gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.50/examples/tiger.ps > Aladdin Ghostscript 5.50 (1998-9-16) > Copyright (C) 1998 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > >>showpage, press to continue<< > > GS> > bash-2.03# gs /usr/local/share/ghostscript/6.01/examples/tiger.ps > Aladdin Ghostscript 6.01 (2000-03-17) > Copyright (C) 2000 Aladdin Enterprises, Menlo Park, CA. All rights reserved. > This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. > Error: /invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage-- Try gs -sDEVICE=x11 /usr/local/share/ghostscript/6.01/examples/tiger.ps gs --help will give you available options. For viewing stuff on the screen, install a front-end such as gv -- there's no point in messing with gs directly. Rahul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:16: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from trinity.skynet.be (trinity.skynet.be [195.238.2.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB6737B8BB for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by trinity.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FDA1817B; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:15:22 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:14:31 +0200 To: Poul-Henning Kamp From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Cc: FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:16 PM +0200 2000/5/2, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ I don't understand. Reading , it seems to me that FreeBSD meets all the necessary requirements. Can someone who understands the details of the licensing issues either explain the situation to me, or provide pointers to references that do? I mean, I found and , but I must be missing something because I still don't understand how it is "worse than the GPL" or why it would require "publication of sources to all binaries linked against libc". Technical issues I can understand, but I just don't get this licensing issue. [0] >> Out of curiosity, is there a public list of all the people who >>have commit access to FreeBSD? > > Yes, it's in the CVS tree in the file CVSROOT/access and in the > Handbook as well. Is there a version online that is actually kept up-to-date? I only count fifteen names at , 178 names at , and nine unique names at . I was under the impression that there are well over 200 people that currently have commit access? Hmm. Looking at , it looks to me like maybe there are only 199 current committers, although this number seems to slightly disagree with what I counted above, unless there are additional duplicates on those separate lists that I failed to eliminate. Hmm. I don't suppose we could get a link to this page from the handbook, could we? If I can figure out a better way to list all these names and to break them up into the appropriate groups, I'll submit a PR. [0] On a side note, can anyone tell me why the search interface on the FreeBSD web site is showing messages such as that have a date/time stamp of "Sat, 15 May 1999 03:09:28 +0400" to instead have "Score: 1204; Lines: 47; 20-Jan-1998; Archive: freebsd-current" in the summary response to the search? How about , which has a date/time stamp of "Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:35:19 -0600" but shows up in the summary response as having "Score: 1305; Lines: 43; 18-Dec-1996; Archive: freebsd-questions"? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:31:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.79.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FB337BBB1 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.79.115]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02325; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:24:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23506; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:24:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200005021524.JAA23506@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brad Knowles Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-Reply-To: References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ > > I don't understand. Reading > , it seems to me that FreeBSD > meets all the necessary requirements. Can someone who understands > the details of the licensing issues either explain the situation to > me, or provide pointers to references that do? Sure, I built a commercial application on FreeBSD. It looked up usernames (which use DB routines). Therefore, according to the licensing scheme, I must now give away the entire source code to my commercial application. Second issue. I use FreeBSD in an embedded system. In order to not *have* to distribute source code to my application, it's in my best interest to strip out any GNU and similar code from the system before I 'ship' it. (Which allows me to ship binaries to make the distribution of my product easier). However, I'm not using the newer DB routines, so I must now provide source code to *everything*, and pointing to the FreeBSD site is not adequate, because there are no time limitations, and FreeBSD might yank the distribution on their site before a customer stops using my hardware. Is that easier? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:31:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3FC37B8FE for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.freebsd.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA12417; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:31:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 10:40:34 EDT." <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:31:21 +0200 Message-ID: <12415.957281481@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com>, Forrest Aldrich writes: >I've been curious about this. Would someone clarify what in this >license prevents FreeBSD from including it, at some level? People wouldn't be able to use FreeBSD without giving away their source. /etc/passwd is stored in a db file for instance. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:34:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE3B37B978 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (dscheidt@shell-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.40]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA63213; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:27:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:27:39 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: Brad Knowles Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 May 2000, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 1:16 PM +0200 2000/5/2, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ > > I don't understand. Reading > , it seems to me that FreeBSD > meets all the necessary requirements. Can someone who understands > the details of the licensing issues either explain the situation to > me, or provide pointers to references that do? FreeBSD meets the license requirements. A non-FreeBSD developed application that used the DB interfaces might not. I don't think it would be a good idea for FreeBSD to do things that make it harder to produce commerical software. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:44:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apoq.skynet.be (apoq.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3E337BECF for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by apoq.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1AC61F3A3; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:41:52 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000502100020.B29588@dan.emsphone.com> References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> <20000502100020.B29588@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:27:51 +0200 To: Dan Nelson , Forrest Aldrich From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:00 AM -0500 2000/5/2, Dan Nelson wrote: > .. means that a user that wanted to use FreeBSD in a commercial > application would not be able to simply sell his product; he would have > to get a license from Sleepycat. Ahh, okay. Now I think I understand the licensing issue. Does anyone know if this has been brought up with the folks at Sleepycat to see if we could get a modification/clarification of this point, so that as long as FreeBSD satisfies the necessary requirements that this point of the license doesn't then recurse upon people who might be using FreeBSD and linking with our libc? Besides, don't we use gcc as the system-standard compiler, and doesn't this likewise infect everything compiled on FreeBSD with the GPL? As I vaguely recall, there was recently a loosening of the GPL to include the LGPL for what appear to be precisely these sorts of reasons. > Since FreeBSD use Berkeley DB for passwd.db and other system databases, > we would have to provide DB 3 for non-commercial users and DB 1.85 for > commercial users. Neither DB 2 or 3 provide any features that FreeBSD > needs (concurrent multi-user modification and transactions), so there's > no great need to replace our current DB. Ahh, okay so there are also valid technical reasons -- it's too big to put into libc. Sadly, I fear that the result is that many people will tend to stick with db 1.85, or that this will be the only exposure to Berkeley DB for many people, and this will give them an unnecessarily negative impression of this library. Thus is the power of defaults, and one of the potential pitfalls. Thanks everybody! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 8:47:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD1D37BDBC for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 08:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12men6-0008Iv-00; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:40:52 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Brad Knowles Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 17:14:31 +0200." Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:40:52 +0200 Message-ID: <31924.957282052@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 02 May 2000 17:14:31 +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > > Sleepycats license is not FreeBSD compatible :-/ > > I don't understand. Reading > , it seems to me that FreeBSD > meets all the necessary requirements. Can someone who understands the > details of the licensing issues either explain the situation to me, or > provide pointers to references that do? This is taken from http://www.sleepycat.com/licensing.html: If you redistribute your application outside of your site and your source code is not freely available and redistributable by others, then you require a commercial license from Sleepycat Software. This means that the software's presence in FreeBSD makes FreeBSD unsuitable for building and selling a black box solution. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9: 8:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from RedDust.BlueSky.net.au (reddust.bluesky.net.au [203.31.37.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BCA37BE56 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from receiver@RedDust.bluesky.net.au) Received: from localhost (receiver@localhost) by RedDust.BlueSky.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA07821; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:55:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from receiver@RedDust.BlueSky.net.au) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:55:11 +1000 (EST) From: Idea Receiver To: Donn Miller Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? In-Reply-To: <390ECD0D.9D7CB6AE@cvzoom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 May 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > Donn Miller wrote: > > > > Idea Receiver wrote: > > > > > > My mail server was down for pass few days. Hope I didnt miss anything > > > important! > > > > > > Today, I try to make world and then rebuild the kernel. > > > After I restart the machine, it shows "Old-style KLD file linuxelf found" > > > and "Old-style KLD file linuxaout found" and then core dumped. > > > > What you need to do is/ > > > > brandelf -t Linux compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig > > > > and then reboot. > > Actually, I meant brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. > as i said before. i did try to brandelf it. doesnt work. anyway. i think maybe due to the modules not sync? but how can this happen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:12:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [195.173.172.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1098337BB2F; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 12mfH9-0009su-00; Tue, 02 May 2000 17:11:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:11:55 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: Mike Smith Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libstand ext2fs Message-ID: <20000502171155.A37749@lindt.urgle.com> References: <14694.957239995@localhost> <200005020408.VAA22251@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005020408.VAA22251@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:08:02PM -0700 X-Rated: North Korea, South Africa Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 09:08:02PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > What sort of fallback behaviour would you want in case of error here? > > > > Just let chroot() either succeed or fail. It's own "fallback behavior" > > in such a case should prove adequate. :) > > Hmm. Failure to chroot == failure to start init? If Linux emulation is non modular, what happens if /sbin/init is a linux binary? I admit to being tempted to find out exactly how good Linux emulation is... -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:28:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from urban.iinet.net.au (urban.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F5E37B5B1 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from popserver-02.iinet.net.au (popserver-02.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.148]) by urban.iinet.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA25743; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:25:16 +0800 Received: from jules.elischer.org (reggae-09-186.nv.iinet.net.au [203.59.67.186]) by popserver-02.iinet.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA21827; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:25:02 +0800 Message-ID: <390EFFC5.52BFA1D7@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:18:13 -0700 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: Dan Nelson , Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? References: <10849.957266163@critter.freebsd.dk> <200005021424.KAA73367@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20000502104034.G3818@drama.navipath.com> <20000502100020.B29588@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > > At 10:00 AM -0500 2000/5/2, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > .. means that a user that wanted to use FreeBSD in a commercial > > application would not be able to simply sell his product; he would have > > to get a license from Sleepycat. > I asked the Keith about this and he said it was wrong.. (to my memory). I recall he said that as it would be grandfathered into freeBSD, (because we had 1.x already) and that anyone running their software under freeBSD could do so without added licencing, because it was already present on the platform. -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Perth v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:33: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.vnet.net (smtp2.vnet.net [166.82.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9072637B560 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from dignus.com (ponds.vnet.net [166.82.177.48]) by smtp2.vnet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02617; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by dignus.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02442; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id MAA26191; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200005021632.MAA26191@lakes.dignus.com> To: blk@skynet.be, julian@elischer.org Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Cc: dnelson@emsphone.com, forrie@navipath.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@critter.freebsd.dk In-Reply-To: <390EFFC5.52BFA1D7@elischer.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Brad Knowles wrote: > > > > At 10:00 AM -0500 2000/5/2, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > > > .. means that a user that wanted to use FreeBSD in a commercial > > > application would not be able to simply sell his product; he would have > > > to get a license from Sleepycat. > > > > I asked the Keith about this and he said it was wrong.. > (to my memory). > > I recall he said that as it would be grandfathered into freeBSD, > (because we had 1.x already) and > that anyone running their software under freeBSD could do so > without added licencing, because it was already present on the > platform. Ah - but that's "running under FreeBSD" - what about taking the FreeBSD source and using it in a different product... Just what does "running under FreeBSD" mean, anyway? If I sell a black box and use FreeBSD as the internal OS, but don't call it FreeBSD - is it "running under FreeBSD?" What if, for example, what if a product came together that was the Linux kernel with the FreeBSD command set? Is that "running under FreeBSD?" Would you be forced to send out your complete sources in that event? This is where the license issues are... - Dave Rivers - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:38:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE7037B5B6 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA74124; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200005021638.MAA74124@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-Reply-To: <200005021632.MAA26191@lakes.dignus.com> References: <390EFFC5.52BFA1D7@elischer.org> <200005021632.MAA26191@lakes.dignus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > This is where the license issues are... Keith offered to make a one-time lobotomy of the DB 2.x code to trim it down to just the 1.85 API, with a standard Berkeley-style license. We discussed this for a while, but determined that: 1) exchanging one unmaintained database package for another was not a particularly useful tradeoff, and 2) the file-format changes would make this sort of change exceedingly painful to our users. For these reasons, we said ``thanks but no thanks''. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:50:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69037B8BF for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navipath.com) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navipath.com with id e42GoSW12664; Tue, 2 May 2000 12:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 12:50:28 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Message-ID: <20000502125028.J3818@drama.navipath.com> References: <390EFFC5.52BFA1D7@elischer.org> <200005021632.MAA26191@lakes.dignus.com> <200005021638.MAA74124@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005021638.MAA74124@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:38:23PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Then, with the problems associated with the Sleepycat license, is there some other alternative to this particular DB product? Surely ours is not the only area that has experienced frustration with this point. What other DB-like projects are out there, etc. _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:52: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7370B37B8BF for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 6077 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 16:51:52 -0000 Received: from lc210.cvzoom.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (208.226.154.210) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 2 May 2000 16:51:52 -0000 Message-ID: <390F07A8.ED958C00@cvzoom.net> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:51:52 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Idea Receiver Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Old-style KLD file linuxelf found? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Idea Receiver wrote: > > On Tue, 2 May 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > > Actually, I meant brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. > > > > as i said before. i did try to brandelf it. doesnt work. > > anyway. i think maybe due to the modules not sync? but how can this > happen? You probably need to make world and kernel to get them both into sync. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 9:52:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from urban.iinet.net.au (urban.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B87A37B71D for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 09:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from muzak.iinet.net.au (muzak.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.237]) by urban.iinet.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA30865; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:48:40 +0800 Received: from jules.elischer.org (reggae-09-186.nv.iinet.net.au [203.59.67.186]) by muzak.iinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28170; Wed, 3 May 2000 00:48:39 +0800 Message-ID: <390F054E.695678E2@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:41:50 -0700 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas David Rivers Cc: blk@skynet.be, dnelson@emsphone.com, forrie@navipath.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? References: <200005021632.MAA26191@lakes.dignus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > > Brad Knowles wrote: > > > > > > At 10:00 AM -0500 2000/5/2, Dan Nelson wrote: > > > > > > > .. means that a user that wanted to use FreeBSD in a commercial > > > > application would not be able to simply sell his product; he would have > > > > to get a license from Sleepycat. > > > > > > > I asked the Keith about this and he said it was wrong.. > > (to my memory). > > > > I recall he said that as it would be grandfathered into freeBSD, > > (because we had 1.x already) and > > that anyone running their software under freeBSD could do so > > without added licencing, because it was already present on the > > platform. > > Ah - but that's "running under FreeBSD" - what about taking > the FreeBSD source and using it in a different product... > > Just what does "running under FreeBSD" mean, anyway? > > If I sell a black box and use FreeBSD as the internal OS, but > don't call it FreeBSD - is it "running under FreeBSD?" yes, because I recall that it was for precisely that reason I asked him.. (Whistle Interjet) I should check again though because I may be misremembering > > What if, for example, what if a product came together that > was the Linux kernel with the FreeBSD command set? Is that > "running under FreeBSD?" I doubt it. > Would you be forced to send out > your complete sources in that event? > > This is where the license issues are... > > - Dave Rivers - -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 ---> X_.---._/ presently in: Perth v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 10:42:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pdbs0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk (pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk [212.139.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 430CF37BB15 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 10:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vhirth@x-stream.co.uk) Received: (qmail 302 invoked from network); 2 May 2000 17:42:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO directoris) (212.139.160.176) by pmail0-uk0.x-stream.co.uk with SMTP; 2 May 2000 17:42:29 -0000 From: "directoris.com" To: Reply-To: Subject: I am looking for investors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000502174233.430CF37BB15@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 10:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Please, pardon me for this intrusion. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 13: 2:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E17537B70A for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c01-091.006.popsite.net [216.126.134.91]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA82924; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA49662; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 13:02:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bruce Burden Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with Ghostscript5/55/6 Message-ID: <20000502130219.A47326@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005021452.JAA32528@sullivan.realtime.net>; from brucegb@realtime.net on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 09:52:43AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 09:52:43AM -0500, Bruce Burden wrote: > I am trying to get Ghostscript running on a 4.0-STABLE > environment. Here is what I get: Please post this to ports@freebsd.org where Ports savy people hang out. current@freebsd.org is to discuss FreeBSD kernel and native userland build issues. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 13:33:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2154137BB92 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA58324; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:33:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:33:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: John Hay Cc: Soren Schmidt , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MVP3 problems - current state? In-Reply-To: <200005021440.e42EeYS09040@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 May 2000, John Hay wrote: >> What board make/version is this ? > >There is no name or version on the board itself. The box it came in >said it is a "A+ Mainboard" and on the side there is a label that >says "APRO/BAT Motherboard". And it is made in China. If it was sold as an electronics product in the United States it _will_ have an FCC ID printed somewhere on it. If you can locate that number and run it through the FCC's ID database @ fcc.gov you can determine the manufacturer. From there a good net search for that manufacturer's name should at least turn up a .ch or .tw address with more info on the board. Good luck. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix@looksharp.net Illegitimi non carborundum. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 13:58:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F57.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FFBE37C087 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA08814 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 22:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005022019.WAA08814@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: NFS, rl0 and Alpha From: Gary Jennejohn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 22:19:29 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone else observing kernel panics in the NFS code with Alpha (pc164) and rl0 (the Alpha is running as a client only) ? NFS worked just fine when I had a de0 in the box. After installing an rl0 (I know they suck, but they're so cheap :) I _always_ get an unaligned access panic when I try to access an NFS mounted FS, in any way. Other network activities like telnet, ftp and cvsup cause no panics, so it doesn't seem to a problem in the IP stack or the rl driver itself. I have a crash dump, but I haven't analyzed it yet. Just looking for reports from other users. BTW I've seen this panic with various kernels, including one with sources cvsup'd yesterday (about 10 AM MEST). BTW2 the server (an x86 with rl0) is also running -current of the same vintage. -------- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 14:15:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709E037BF59 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA57726; Tue, 2 May 2000 14:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005022114.OAA57726@apollo.backplane.com> To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha References: <200005022019.WAA08814@peedub.muc.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Is anyone else observing kernel panics in the NFS code with Alpha :(pc164) and rl0 (the Alpha is running as a client only) ? : :NFS worked just fine when I had a de0 in the box. After installing an :rl0 (I know they suck, but they're so cheap :) I _always_ get an :unaligned access panic when I try to access an NFS mounted FS, in any :way. This is almost certainly related to differences in how the packet is aligned in memory between de0 and rl0. If you are getting panics, it is probably at the same location every time. If you can get a kernel core dump and backtrace I'll bet we can find and fix this problem quickly. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 15:10:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE0737BE46 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18598; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Brad Knowles Cc: Dan Nelson , Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 17:27:51 +0200." Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:12:41 -0700 Message-ID: <18595.957305561@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does anyone know if this has been brought up with the folks at > Sleepycat to see if we could get a modification/clarification of this > point, so that as long as FreeBSD satisfies the necessary > requirements that this point of the license doesn't then recurse upon > people who might be using FreeBSD and linking with our libc? Yes, this was brought up by the sleepycat people themselves over a year ago and was part of a long discussion thread involving Keith Bostic and a host of FreeBSD developers. We were unable to reach such an agreement or get any such modification of the license and so we elected to remain with DB 1.85 at that time. There have been no changes to the license or any apparant willingness on Sleepycat's part to modify it in the ensuing 12 months. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 15:26:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [149.173.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A2837C06F for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:26:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [149.173.6.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA09912 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA10368; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:25:52 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA02138 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:25:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <200005022225.SAA02138@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: 5.0-20000502-SNAP install does not boot To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 18:25:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Today, I tried a test install of the last nights -current, 0502-SNAP. The cd boots correctly and the install works like a charm. However, after finishing the install and attempting to boot the newly installed system, it hands at the "F1 FreeBSD" prompt. Hitting the F1 key (or any other key) simply results in a beep. By booting off of the mfsroot.flp floppy, and then telling it to boot from 0:da(0,a)/kernel, the system boots up normally. I've installed the boot code again via: boot0cfg -v da0 && disklabel -B da0 # flag start chs type end chs offset size 1 0x80 0: 1: 1 0xa5 1023: 70: 27 27 4163697 drive=0x80 mask=0xf options=nopacket,update,nosetdrv ticks=182 This does not fix the problem. I'm continuing to look into this problem. If anyone has any ideas on what I should look at, please let me know. Thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 15:46:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BDD37B539 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 15:46:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinson@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: from localhost (vinson@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) with SMTP id QAA09275 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:46:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 16:46:13 -0600 (MDT) From: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: KDE 2-preALPHA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone had any luck with kde 2-preALPHA on -current. I couldn't get it to recognize QT even after installing the QT snapshot, and ldconfig did wierd things. When I finally found the libs(via a reboot), I still got unresolved symbols. Any sucess stories, or the location of a binary distribution, would be great. Thanks in advance, Wayne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 16:28: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from morpheus.skynet.be (morpheus.skynet.be [195.238.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7398037BAEE for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 16:28:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.23.13] (dialup13.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.23.13]) by morpheus.skynet.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54DADACD; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:27:59 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <18595.957305561@localhost> References: <18595.957305561@localhost> Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 01:17:07 +0200 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Cc: Dan Nelson , Forrest Aldrich , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Poul-Henning Kamp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:12 PM -0700 2000/5/2, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Yes, this was brought up by the sleepycat people themselves over a > year ago and was part of a long discussion thread involving Keith > Bostic and a host of FreeBSD developers. We were unable to reach such > an agreement or get any such modification of the license and so we > elected to remain with DB 1.85 at that time. I've also been discussing these issues privately with Keith, and from what I've read on the list plus what I've received from him in private, I understand that he made an offer to modify the license and allow the incorporation of newer versions in FreeBSD[0], specifically: FreeBSD could include the Berkeley DB package, and commercial companies would only have to separately license Berkeley DB if they used it outside of the functionality provided by FreeBSD, that is, FreeBSD can use DB, and companies that ship FreeBSD code can use DB as long as they only use it in the same ways that FreeBSD uses it. IANAL, nor do I have any first-hand knowledge of the previous discussions on this topic. However, it would seem to me that this modification to the license into something more akin to the LGPL should largely solve that issue. I also mentioned the technical issues that I've seen raised on the list (specifically, the size of the newer versions of the library and the unwillingness/lack of interest in incorporating a significantly larger version of Berkeley DB within libc). His response was: The footprint isn't that much bigger when only the access methods are used. Regardless, with shared libraries, who cares? The "new feature" it offers is that it doesn't drop core. :-) I brought up the idea that perhaps additional compile-time options could be used so that the linked in version of the libraries would only have the necessary code for the "access methods", and the rest of the code simply wouldn't be present in the standard FreeBSD binary as a result of #ifdef's sprinkled throughout the code. Therefore you wouldn't be able to violate the terms of the license, unless you went out of your way to build your own fully-functional version of Berkeley DB, such as using the port. However, my impression was that he did not consider this to be a feasible idea. > There have been no changes to the license or any apparant willingness > on Sleepycat's part to modify it in the ensuing 12 months. Whether or not there has been a shift from previous positions on this subject, I am not qualified to say. However, it seems to me that Keith has apparently addressed the issues he can in such a way that it would be compatible with the aims and goals of the FreeBSD Project, although it would also require work from this side -- obviously someone would have to go through the code and make the necessary changes as to which set of library calls we'd be using. The real shame in all this is that I fear that many future FreeBSD users will get the wrong impression of Berkeley DB, simply because their only exposure to it will be through the system-supplied db 1.85 routines. In addition, Linux users appear to be able to get the full benefit of more modern versions of Berkeley DB being incorporated by default, which would seem to leave us at a disadvantage. However, I get the feeling that there is more to this issue than I have learned so far, or am likely to ever learn. As far as I'm concerned, I think this is going to be my last post on this subject. The appropriate people have been informed (or reminded yet once again) of the situation, and are going to get together and work towards getting this issue resolved or not, and either way there's not really anything more I can say or do on this subject that could potentially be considered to be useful. [1] [0] Yes, I checked with him first to confirm that I may directly quote him. ;-) [1] That's assuming that I have done or said anything useful on this subject. ;-( -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ====================================================================== Brad Knowles, || Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Systems Architect, Mail/News/FTP/Proxy Admin || Rue Colonel Bourg, 124 Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.13.11/12.49 || B-1140 Brussels http://www.skynet.be || Belgium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:44: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from casiopea.cyberpet.cl (casiopea.cyberpet.cl [216.72.178.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0B37BC73 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diego@cyberpet.cl) Received: from casiopea (casiopea.cyberpet.cl [192.168.1.1]) by casiopea.cyberpet.cl with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id J99HJ4GA; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:43:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000801bfb498$a0488880$0101a8c0@cyberpet.cl> From: "Diego" To: "Current@Freebsd.Org" References: Subject: Re: KDE 2-preALPHA Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:43:40 -0400 Organization: Cyberpet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since I'm interested in this too, and nobody has posted a better way yet, I'll tell you what I did to make it work, in a VERY "dirty way", in -current. Hope somebody posts a better and cleaner way. This is what I did : Use the ports to install QT 2.1, gtk12, gmake, jpeg, png, xpm, tiff, gettext, libungif, uulib, automake & autoconf. That will also install some other things (Mesa, TCL, TK...) we need for KDE, that's OK. Make the following links : ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/moc2 /usr/X11R6/bin/moc ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk12.so.2 /usr/X11R6/lib/libgtk.so ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt.so ln -s /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt2.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt.so.3 ln -s /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libpng.so ln -s /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.3 /usr/X11R6/lib/libpng.so.3 ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/qt2 /usr/X11R6/include/qt ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 /usr/X11R6/include/gtk ln -s /usr/X11R6/include/gtk10 /usr/X11R6/include/gtk ln -s /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk-config That will "fool" the software into thinking he's accessing the "old" versions, when in fact it's using the new ones. In case they already exist, rename any "older" versions/dirs of any of those listed above that might conflict when making the links. Run the "./configure" script for KDE using the following options : --with-qt-dir=/usr/X11R6/bin --with-qt-includes=/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --with-extra-includes=/usr/local/include --with-extra-libs=/usr/local/lib You might want to add some other configuration options, like "--enable-threads", etc. See the "./configure" script for other possible options. Use GMAKE (!very important!) to make/install KDE, NOT the BSD "native" Make. Add "/usr/local/kde/lib/" to your LD_LIBRARY_PATH, e.g., add it to the line "ldconfig_paths=..." in /etc/defaults/rc.conf Add "/usr/local/kde/bin" to your path, e.g. add it to your ".cshrc" file (for example, if you are using the default shell) The order in which you make the KDE parts is important : first make/install "Support", then "KDE-qt-add-on", then "Libs", then "Base". From there on it almost makes no difference in what order you make/install the rest. In a couple of parts during the compilations it will stop with an error saying that "this or that" is not there, or it's bad, etc. I had to remove those dirs and run GMake again... :-( Add a file called ".xinitrc" to you home dir, that says "exec startkde", and Run "xinit". "Disclaimer" : This is by NO MEANS neither a "recommendable" or "clean" way of forcing KDE2-preALPHA to run on -current, it's just what I did, and clearly it's NOT guaranteed to work. ;-) !Good Luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: "VINSON WAYNE HOWARD" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 6:46 PM Subject: KDE 2-preALPHA > Has anyone had any luck with kde 2-preALPHA on -current. I couldn't get > it to recognize QT even after installing the QT snapshot, and ldconfig did > wierd things. When I finally found the libs(via a reboot), I still got > unresolved symbols. > > Any sucess stories, or the location of a binary distribution, would be > great. > > Thanks in advance, > Wayne > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:52:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0A537BFF8 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA390790; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:52:15 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:52:11 -0400 To: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:05 PM +0200 5/2/00, Brad Knowles wrote: > A thread on news.software.nntp got me checking into this, >and now I've gotten very curious. From what I can determine, it >looks like what is integrated into FreeBSD is Berkeley db 1.85 >(in /usr/src/libc/db), although there is a port for 2.7.7 in >/usr/ports/databases/db. If this is an issue for some nntp software, perhaps that port (the freebsd 'port collection' port...) should build and use the newer version of db? Would that help whatever issue got you interested in this? > Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that db 1.85 >is pretty widely known to be broken in a number of ways (see >) Let us assume for the moment that the licensing issues mean that freebsd can't include the newer versions of Berkley db in the main system. Should we consider fixing a few of the nastier problems in 1.85? (whatever those would be...). Or does trying to fix those open a different can of worms? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 17:53: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA3337BCF3 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 17:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrich2@mindspring.com) Received: from ns1.gallixy.com (user-2injl0u.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.212.30]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17144 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: mrich2@mindspring.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000502205327.00797c80@mindspring.com> X-Sender: mrich2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 20:53:27 -0400 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-current subscribe cvs-all Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 18: 1: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (c62443-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.0.69.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC1137BD46 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: (from adsharma@localhost) by sharmas.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16831; Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 18:00:27 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Message-Id: <200005030100.SAA16831@sharmas.dhs.org> To: Wayne.Vinson@Colorado.EDU, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE 2-preALPHA In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In muc.lists.freebsd.current, you wrote: > Has anyone had any luck with kde 2-preALPHA on -current. I couldn't get > it to recognize QT even after installing the QT snapshot, and ldconfig did > wierd things. When I finally found the libs(via a reboot), I still got > unresolved symbols. No binaries, but I could compile on 4.0-stable. You need to set $KDEDIR and $QTDIR before you configure. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 19: 8: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.columbus.rr.com (blizzard.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43B037B5A8 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dzerkel@columbus.rr.com) Received: from columbus.rr.com (dhcp9595035.columbus.rr.com [24.95.95.35]) by blizzard.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18658 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 22:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390F89DD.9798D712@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 22:07:25 -0400 From: "Danny J. Zerkel" Organization: Zerkular Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: Russian, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One of the things to consider is the number of places db is used in FreeBSD code. Any bugs in db can manifest in any of these: contrib/bind contrib/global contrib/nvi contrib/perl5 contrib/sendmail crypto/kerberosIV crypto/heimdal lib/libc/gen/devname.c lib/libc/gen/getcap.c lib/libc/gen/getpwent.c lib/libc/gen/ttyname.c libexec/ypxfr sbin/init sys/dev/aic7xxx usr.bin/finger usr.bin/tsort usr.bin/vacation usr.sbin/sa usr.sbin/rpc.yppasswdd usr.sbin/rpc.ypupdated usr.sbin/ypserv contrib/amd contrib/cvs lib/libkvm pr/9350 is an example of db bugs effecting vi. (Would someone PLEASE apply the simple patch and close the damn PR!) -- Danny J. Zerkel dzerkel@columbus.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 19:27:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from amonduul.ecn.ou.edu (amonduul.ecn.ou.edu [129.15.119.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EE37BF54 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 19:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from servalan!rmtodd@amonduul.ecn.ou.edu) Received: from servalan (2368 bytes) by amonduul.ecn.ou.edu via rmail with P:uucp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for freebsd.org!freebsd-current; Tue, 2 May 2000 21:26:18 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Apr-4) Received: from localhost (1818 bytes) by servalan.servalan.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:46:24 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-10) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:46:24 -0500 (CDT) From: rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com (Richard Todd) To: blk@skynet.be, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Newsgroups: servalan.mailinglist.fbsd-current References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.3 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In servalan.mailinglist.fbsd-current Brad Knowles writes: > Besides, don't we use gcc as the system-standard compiler, and >doesn't this likewise infect everything compiled on FreeBSD with the >GPL? No, because none of the gcc code appears in the resulting binary. The binary does include the "libgcc" code, but that code is specifically exempted from the GPL. Programs that link against the Berkeley DB 2.x library, however, will end up including the DB code, and thus end up including code covered by the 2.x licence. [Note: of course, if you link against a shared library, the actual code from the library doesn't appear in your binary. It seems to be the general consensus opinion that the courts would treat this the same as the static linking case, i.e. your binary would be covered under the licence "as if" you had statically linked against the relevant library, but I don't know if this has ever been tested in court anywhere. If you're in a situation where the legalities really matter, you should probably ask a real lawyer instead of relying on the semi-informed opinion of people posting to mailing lists.] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:21:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7854537BAB5 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c04-115.006.popsite.net [216.126.137.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA84993; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA93895; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:21:42 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE 2-preALPHA Message-ID: <20000502202142.A93759@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Wayne.Vinson@Colorado.EDU on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 04:46:13PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 04:46:13PM -0600, VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: > Has anyone had any luck with kde 2-preALPHA on -current. I couldn't get Please take this discussion to ports@freebsd.org where there are KDE knowledgeable people (and where it belongs by the FreeBSD mailing list charters). -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:33:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C3D37BDA1 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c04-115.006.popsite.net [216.126.137.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA85031; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA94020; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:33:30 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Danny J. Zerkel" Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Message-ID: <20000502203330.B47326@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <390F89DD.9798D712@columbus.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <390F89DD.9798D712@columbus.rr.com>; from dzerkel@columbus.rr.com on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:07:25PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:07:25PM -0400, Danny J. Zerkel wrote: > > pr/9350 is an example of db bugs effecting vi. > (Would someone PLEASE apply the simple patch and close the damn PR!) Ok. I've applied to my local sources. If it passes my next makeworld and doesn't crash things on me, I'll commit it. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:34:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b058.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96B437B87E for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:34:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23137; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:34:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Tim Pozar Subject: kern/16767 (A.K.A. Re: Geek Port crash) In-Reply-To: <20000430140040.A71703@lns.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lots of crashes, lots of fsck's, and lots of swearing resulted in the following: Opening /dev/ppi* in 4.0 (After Jan 14) causes a panic when the system tries to allocate what appears to be IRQ 0 to the parallel port... I know little about the interrupt handling, so I went after this with the "brute force" method, ending up with (so far) this: ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus_attach(0xc0840d00) <-- added this line ppi0: on ppbus0 ppi0 - BUS_READ_IVAR returns IRQ 0 <-- added this line lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port plip0: on ppbus0 ...with the enclosed patches, the geek port once again works, but I really don't have the know-how to really test it correctly... I'm able to read & write the data lines on the port without blowing up the machine. Essentially, ppiopen() in sys/dev/ppbus/ppi.c will not call BUS_SETUP_INTR() if it sees an IRQ of 0. (Not using polled mode on the parallel port def in the config file didn't make any difference.) I'm going to beat on this some more over the next few days, but this is a start. I'd be interested to know if anyone can make the "ppi->intr_resource != 0 -- activating IRQ" message show up when opening /dev/ppi0, especially if their machine doesn't crash when opening up the device without this patch... --mike --------------------------------------------------------------------------- diff -u /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c newppbus/ppbconf.c --- /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppbconf.c Sun Jan 23 09:41:04 2000 +++ newppbus/ppbconf.c Tue May 2 22:45:52 2000 @@ -390,6 +390,7 @@ static int ppbus_attach(device_t dev) { + printf("ppbus_attach(%p)\n", dev); /* Locate our children */ bus_generic_probe(dev); diff -u /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppi.c newppbus/ppi.c --- /usr/src/sys/dev/ppbus/ppi.c Sun Jan 23 09:41:04 2000 +++ newppbus/ppi.c Tue May 2 23:04:43 2000 @@ -169,6 +169,8 @@ /* retrive the irq */ BUS_READ_IVAR(device_get_parent(dev), dev, PPBUS_IVAR_IRQ, &irq); + printf("ppi%d - BUS_READ_IVAR returns IRQ %d\n", + device_get_unit(dev), irq); /* declare our interrupt handler */ ppi->intr_resource = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IRQ, @@ -271,10 +273,16 @@ return (res); ppi->ppi_flags |= HAVE_PPBUS; - + + if (!ppi->intr_resource) { /* register our interrupt handler */ - BUS_SETUP_INTR(device_get_parent(ppidev), ppidev, ppi->intr_resource, + printf("ppi->intr_resource != 0 -- activating IRQ\n"); + BUS_SETUP_INTR(device_get_parent(ppidev), ppidev, ppi->intr_resource, INTR_TYPE_TTY, ppiintr, dev, &ppi->intr_cookie); + } + else { + printf("ppi->intr_resource = 0 -- not using IRQ\n"); + } } ppi->ppi_count += 1; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue May 2 20:47:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3b058.neo.rr.com [24.93.181.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C18E37B934 for ; Tue, 2 May 2000 20:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23299; Tue, 2 May 2000 23:47:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 23:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Tim Pozar Subject: Re: kern/16767 (A.K.A. Re: Geek Port crash) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ...with the enclosed patches, the geek port once again works, but I really DUH! Sent the wrong patch file! Change the following line: > + if (!ppi->intr_resource) { to: > + if (ppi->intr_resource) { (stupid little single-char mistake....) mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 1:40:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C242537B861 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12muhk-000JoT-0Y; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:40:24 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA47393; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:42:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:45:28 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Gary Jennejohn , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha In-Reply-To: <200005022114.OAA57726@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Is anyone else observing kernel panics in the NFS code with Alpha > :(pc164) and rl0 (the Alpha is running as a client only) ? > : > :NFS worked just fine when I had a de0 in the box. After installing an > :rl0 (I know they suck, but they're so cheap :) I _always_ get an > :unaligned access panic when I try to access an NFS mounted FS, in any > :way. > > This is almost certainly related to differences in how the > packet is aligned in memory between de0 and rl0. > > If you are getting panics, it is probably at the same > location every time. If you can get a kernel core dump > and backtrace I'll bet we can find and fix this problem > quickly. Bill put workarounds for the alpha's alignment restrictions into some of his drivers but it seems that he missed out rl. Basically the part of the packet which includes headers needs to have the start of the ip header aligned to a 4-byte boundary. Since the preceding ethernet header is not padded to 4 bytes, this often means copying the first part of the packet to another mbuf. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 2:48:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB52D37B95E for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7EE2CE5C; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:48:16 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C163A1C581E; Wed, 3 May 2000 11:48:18 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:48:18 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: Brad Knowles , FreeBSD-CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: db 1.85 --> 2.x or 3.x? Message-ID: <20000503114818.B42554@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 08:52:11PM -0400 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?AS_Matti_B=C3=BCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 08:52:11PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > If this is an issue for some nntp software, perhaps that port (the > freebsd 'port collection' port...) should build and use the newer > version of db? Would that help whatever issue got you interested > in this? The upcoming INN-2.3.0 port will need newer Berkeley DB for overview database, in case you specifically request support for it. The 3.0.55 version of Berkeley DB compiles out of the box on the -current as I tried it few days ago. But I think the port of 2.7.7 we have already is enough, althought haven't tried it myself. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 6:32:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8719437BBCA for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 06:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12mzGS-000HPN-0K; Wed, 3 May 2000 13:32:32 +0000 Received: from henny.qubesoft.com (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA68921; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:32:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:31:36 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot with 2 printers In-Reply-To: <021701bfb0a8$54a113a0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could you compile a debugging kernel with the kernel debugger included and make it bomb again, and write down the function names that the trace command on the DDB command line gives you and the exact trap message? Thanks in advance. Nik On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Leif Neland wrote: > Sorry not to have details at hand but anyways: > > Current cvsupped today. > > I have 2 parallel ports in use. > > I have had no problems with kernels dated 2 weeks or older, but since a few > days ago, the system crashes at boot while probing the parallel ports. "Page > fault while in supervisor mode", (I seem to remember vaguely) > > If I disable either lpt0 or lpt1 in -c config, the system boots and > operates without problems. > > I know this is a terrible bug-report, but perhaps it still could trigger the > memory of whoever made changes to the printer system.... > > I can provide better info tomorrow if needed, but it's so late I can't find > a pencil to write the exact messages. > > 'night > Leif > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 12:10:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B6B37BE52 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000503191034.MBIU18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:10:34 -0700 Message-ID: <39107973.F528306C@home.com> Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:09:39 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: can't assign resources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been getting these messages from my kernel for some time now. Could the culprit be these 2 isa cards: non-pnp SB16 sbc0 ne2000 ed0 They are on a SMP BP6 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown0: at port 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown1: at port 0-0xf,0x81-0x83,0x87,0x89-0x8b,0x8f-0x91,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown2: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown3: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown4: at port 0x61 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown5: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown6: at iomem 0-0x9ffff,0xfffe0000-0xffffffff,0xfec00000-0xfec0ffff,0xfee00000-0xfee0ffff,0x100000-0x3ffffff on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown7: at iomem 0xf0000-0xf3fff,0xf4000-0xf7fff,0xf8000-0xfffff,0xd1800-0xd3fff on isa0 May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 12:11:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F59.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830937BDF3 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA14795; Wed, 3 May 2000 21:07:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005031907.VAA14795@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Doug Rabson Cc: Matthew Dillon , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 May 2000 10:40:27 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 21:07:54 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Rabson writes: >On Tue, 2 May 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: > >> >> :Is anyone else observing kernel panics in the NFS code with Alpha >> :(pc164) and rl0 (the Alpha is running as a client only) ? >> : >> :NFS worked just fine when I had a de0 in the box. After installing an >> :rl0 (I know they suck, but they're so cheap :) I _always_ get an >> :unaligned access panic when I try to access an NFS mounted FS, in any >> :way. >> >> This is almost certainly related to differences in how the >> packet is aligned in memory between de0 and rl0. >> >> If you are getting panics, it is probably at the same >> location every time. If you can get a kernel core dump >> and backtrace I'll bet we can find and fix this problem >> quickly. > >Bill put workarounds for the alpha's alignment restrictions into some of >his drivers but it seems that he missed out rl. Basically the part of the >packet which includes headers needs to have the start of the ip header >aligned to a 4-byte boundary. Since the preceding ethernet header is not >padded to 4 bytes, this often means copying the first part of the packet >to another mbuf. > Thanks, but there is code in rl_rxeof() to align to a 32 bit boundary. If that weren't the case than I would expect the Alpha to panic with other IP applications, not just NFS. I don't know, NFS must be doing something weird. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 14: 0:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F3B37B86F for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA64943; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005032100.OAA64943@apollo.backplane.com> To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: Doug Rabson , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha References: <200005031907.VAA14795@peedub.muc.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Thanks, but there is code in rl_rxeof() to align to a 32 bit boundary. :If that weren't the case than I would expect the Alpha to panic with :other IP applications, not just NFS. : :I don't know, NFS must be doing something weird. : :--- :Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org NFS will realign the data payload for misaligned packets. I agree it sounds like an issue in the NFS code somewhere. Something that is slipping through unnoticed. If someone can get a crash dump and do a stack backtrace, or even a simple DDB 'trace', it should be opssible to track the problem down. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 14:33: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817A037B9DC for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.2/8.9.3) with UUCP id XAA86108; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:32:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03184; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:32:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:32:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Nick Hibma Cc: Leif Neland , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel panic at boot with 2 printers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 May 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > > Could you compile a debugging kernel with the kernel debugger included > and make it bomb again, and write down the function names that the trace > command on the DDB command line gives you and the exact trap message? > I don't know what happened, but I compiled a kernel with VARIANTS, KTRACE, and DIAGNOSTIC. It didn't bomb. Then I compiled a normal kernel without these options. It didn't bomb either. So somembody must have fixed something. It couldn't be the moon, it's only two days old... Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 14:38:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CFE37BE27; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA65175; Wed, 3 May 2000 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:38:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200005032138.OAA65175@apollo.backplane.com> To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jobs@backplane.com Subject: What Matt is doing now & Opportunities with Backplane Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is both a heads up and a, well, ok, and a solicitation. I'll admit it! As many of you know I was a founder of BEST Internet, an ISP which was eventually sold to Verio at the end of 1998. I've also been extremely active in the FreeBSD community. Throughout 1999 I've been unwinding from the BEST experience and starting in late 1999 my brother Ben and I began looking for a new startup opportunity... that is, an idea which we could build a company around. For the last few years Ben had been a high muckity-muck at Macromedia doing business development for their Flash! and other internet-related products. Between us we believe we have the necessary experience to build a new company. We came up with an idea and for the last several months have been working on funding. We have started hiring. The idea may seem mundane at first, but believe me it should be quite an interesting job from a programmer's perspective. In a nutshell we will be doing a business-to-business ASP-based billing solution. That is, handling the billing operations for client companies. While we expect competition to grow in this area as time progresses much of the current potential competition is using a different focus then the approach we intend to take, and we think we will do well in this area. I have plenty of experience in this area as I was the one who wrote the provisioning and billing system for BEST. The idea here is to create an ASP (i.e. web-based) solution that caters to small and mid-sized companies - other ASPs, ISPs, or any company which has a regular customer base. As I am sure many Bay Area technology startups are doing, we are at the point now where we need to flesh-out our engineering team. Programmers are the most critical part of the team and at the moment we have two (Me, and a guy named Matt Titus) ((pps if your name doesn't begin with 'Matt' it will not be held against you!). While I consider myself a very good programmer, this project is just a tad bigger then two people can handle. So we are starting to look for C programmers to help build the support libraries, CGI infrastructure for the web servers, database, and backend programs (e.g. such as generating and printing invoices). We will be using FreeBSD-4.x as the base platform for both the web and database servers, backend servers, and so forth. We will be based in EMERYVILLE (in between Berkeley and Oakland, just over the Bay Bridge from SF) and any interested parties would need to commute to Emeryville daily. Medium-level pay, good options, medical benefits, and (I hope!) a good work environment are part of the deal. We are looking to fill several full-time programming slots. If anyone here is interested in exploring this opportunity, please contact: jobs@backplane.com (which will get to my brother Ben, who is handling the search for new employees). If you have any technical questions, email me directly ( dillon@backplane.com ). If you want to scream about me posting a solicitation to -hackers, then scream at me ( dillon@backplane.com ). We are also looking for a good web page designer -- taking one look at what used to be my personal home page ( www.backplane.com ) should make that fairly obvious :-). This is a formal, professional employment opportunity -- a true 'silicon valley' startup (except not based in silicon valley). Thanks Everyone! -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 15:14:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E940837B582 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 15:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA01922; Wed, 3 May 2000 15:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005032222.PAA01922@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "John W. DeBoskey" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.0-20000502-SNAP install does not boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 May 2000 18:25:52 EDT." <200005022225.SAA02138@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 15:22:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > Today, I tried a test install of the last nights -current, 0502-SNAP. > The cd boots correctly and the install works like a charm. However, > after finishing the install and attempting to boot the newly > installed system, it hands at the "F1 FreeBSD" prompt. Hitting > the F1 key (or any other key) simply results in a beep. This always means either a geometry error (99.9% of cases) or a disk error. You're using a SCSI disk, so I would guess either: 1) You are using an Adaptec controller, and you have the "extended translation for disks >1GB" option turned off. 2) There was another operating system installed on this disk, probably installed on another system/SCSI controller, and sysinstall has become confused. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 15:33:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hamal.freemail.ne.jp (hamal.freemail.ne.jp [210.235.164.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A856A37B9F6 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from finance@hamal.freemail.ne.jp) Received: (qmail 14835 invoked by alias); 4 May 2000 01:35:00 +0900 Received: (qmail 16652 invoked from network); 3 May 2000 21:46:15 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO gera00) (211.0.96.126) by hamal.freemail.ne.jp with SMTP; 3 May 2000 21:46:15 +0900 Message-ID: <00c601bfb4fd$ce10db40$1100a8c0@gera00> From: "finance" To: Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCMyQzMCUvJWwlOCVDJUglKyE8JUk8aEZAMEZGYiEhOXEbKEI=?= =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCRmIkR0IoIzMjMCFBIzEjMCMwMHo9UDJERz0bKEI=?= Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:57:18 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0354_01BFB542.2C136200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0354_01BFB542.2C136200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit $B9qFb$G$NpJs!";v8N>pJs$H$$$C$5$$4X78$J$/Aw$G$*Gd$j(B $B$7!"D>@\5-F~!&EjH!$7$FD:$/(B $B!J#2!K?=9~=q%G!<%?$H0u:~!&EjH!$N\:Y$r$*65$($7$^$9!K(B $B5-F~$O%m!<%^;z$NCN<1$5$($"$l$P!"1Q8lNO$O$$$C$5$$ITMW$G$9!#(B $BBe6b#5#0#0#01_!#K|0ll9g$ODLCN%l%?!<$H0z49$($KA43[$r$*JV$7$7(B $B$^$9!#(B $B?=9~$_$OBj!V%+!<%I4uK>!W!"K\J8$K!J#1!K$^$?$O!J#2!K$K$$$:$l$+$r5-$7!J$=$l0J30(B $B$OITMW!K!"(B financial@softhome.net $B$^$G$*Aw$j$/$@$5$$!#@^$jJV$7Aw6bJ}K!Ey$r$*CN$i$;$7$^$9!#(B ($B$=$l0J30$NBj$H!"K\%a!<%k$X$ND>@\JV?.$OL58z$G$9$N$G$4Cm0U$/$@$5$$(B) $B0lDj?t$G?=$79~$_$rDy$a@Z$i$;$F$$$?$@$/>l9g$,$"$j$^$9$N$G$4N;>5$/$@$5$$!#(B $B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(B $B$J$*!"?=$79~$_MQ$K%@%_!<$N%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r:n$i$l$kJ}$O(B $B;00fITF0;:!!(Bhttp://www.mailkun.com/ $BD+F|9-9pAw!K(B $B$,
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------=_NextPart_000_0354_01BFB542.2C136200-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 16: 1:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [149.173.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC3637BA48; Wed, 3 May 2000 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [149.173.6.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA13011; Wed, 3 May 2000 19:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA09684; Wed, 3 May 2000 19:00:33 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA12812; Wed, 3 May 2000 19:00:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <200005032300.TAA12812@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: 5.0-20000502-SNAP install does not boot In-Reply-To: <200005032222.PAA01922@mass.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "May 3, 2000 03:22:55 pm" To: Mike Smith Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well... The system I was replacing was simply an older snap from november of last year.. I've replicated the problem on two different machines (yes, one with an adaptec controller, but the option is on. The 2nd an older HP Vectra XU 5/133C with an amd0 controller). I've determined a non-source fix is to: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1k count=1 and then do the install. This is with a compatible partition. I have not tested dangerously dedicated yet. No, I haven't done any disk swapping... Thanks for the reply! John > > Hi, > > > > Today, I tried a test install of the last nights -current, 0502-SNAP. > > The cd boots correctly and the install works like a charm. However, > > after finishing the install and attempting to boot the newly > > installed system, it hands at the "F1 FreeBSD" prompt. Hitting > > the F1 key (or any other key) simply results in a beep. > > This always means either a geometry error (99.9% of cases) or a disk > error. > > You're using a SCSI disk, so I would guess either: > > 1) You are using an Adaptec controller, and you have the "extended > translation for disks >1GB" option turned off. > 2) There was another operating system installed on this disk, probably > installed on another system/SCSI controller, and sysinstall has become > confused. > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 20:38:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1484A37BF7D for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 20:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tpnelson@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au) Received: from student.cowan.edu.au (pobax1-237.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.137.237]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20960; Thu, 4 May 2000 13:37:28 +1000 Message-ID: <3910EF86.1B3B5981@student.cowan.edu.au> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:33:26 +0800 From: Trent Nelson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: can't assign resources References: <39107973.F528306C@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ted Sikora wrote: > > I have been getting these messages from my kernel for some time now. > Could the culprit be these 2 isa cards: > non-pnp SB16 sbc0 > ne2000 ed0 > They are on a SMP BP6 I've posted a message both to current and questions about this now. I'm experiencing the same thing with roughly the same I/O addresses being claimed. I doubt it has anything to do with the ISA cards you mention as many of the addresses relate to things like the DMA registers/timer and other associated resources. Could someone please either take a look at this, or give an authoritative comment as to why it's happening. If someone points me in the direction of the particular code where the unknown driver is claiming the devices; I'll make an attempt to take a look at it myself. > May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown0: at port > 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0 > May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown1: at port > 0-0xf,0x81-0x83,0x87,0x89-0x8b,0x8f-0x91,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Regards, Trent. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 23:31:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1920E37BFC0 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08003 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:30:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: amusing side effect of always bulding modules now.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you were used to building kernels, as non-root, you may be now surprised as I was by now running into root owned files from last nightl's buildworld (which runs as root). An amusing (and slightly annoying) side effect of an otherwise well intentioned change. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed May 3 23:35:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEED37B7BA for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000504063537.WAZJ18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 3 May 2000 23:35:37 -0700 Message-ID: <39111A01.44BBE15A@home.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 02:34:41 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trent Nelson , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: can't assign resources References: <39107973.F528306C@home.com> <3910EF86.1B3B5981@student.cowan.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trent Nelson wrote: > > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > > I have been getting these messages from my kernel for some time now. > > Could the culprit be these 2 isa cards: > > non-pnp SB16 sbc0 > > ne2000 ed0 > > They are on a SMP BP6 > > I've posted a message both to current and questions about this now. I'm > experiencing the same thing with roughly the same I/O addresses being > claimed. I doubt it has anything to do with the ISA cards you mention as > many of the addresses relate to things like the DMA registers/timer and > other associated resources. > > Could someone please either take a look at this, or give an > authoritative comment as to why it's happening. > > If someone points me in the direction of the particular code where the > unknown driver is claiming the devices; I'll make an attempt to take a > look at it myself. > > > May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown0: at port > > 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0 > > May 3 14:53:19 telecast /kernel: unknown1: at port > > 0-0xf,0x81-0x83,0x87,0x89-0x8b,0x8f-0x91,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 Your right the addresses seem to be standard machine resources. Are you using SMP? The irq's are remapped on a SMP machine so maybe that's were the trouble lies? The PNP tag is what has me stumped. I replaced the isa cards with pci this evening out of curiosity...same thing. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 0: 1:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F21.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7837B9F9 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 00:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA28309; Thu, 4 May 2000 08:58:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005040658.IAA28309@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 May 2000 23:00:26 +0200." <200005032100.OAA64943@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 08:58:24 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon writes: >:Thanks, but there is code in rl_rxeof() to align to a 32 bit boundary. >:If that weren't the case than I would expect the Alpha to panic with >:other IP applications, not just NFS. >: >:I don't know, NFS must be doing something weird. >: >:--- >:Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org > > NFS will realign the data payload for misaligned packets. > > I agree it sounds like an issue in the NFS code somewhere. Something > that is slipping through unnoticed. If someone can get a crash dump > and do a stack backtrace, or even a simple DDB 'trace', it should be > opssible to track the problem down. OK, I'll analyze my crash dump and send the reults to -current later today (Thursday). --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 2:16:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tkc.att.ne.jp (tkc.att.ne.jp [165.76.16.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D78937BFF2 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 02:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Received: from work.mzaki.nom (63.pool6.tokyo.att.ne.jp [165.76.23.78]) by tkc.att.ne.jp (8.8.8+Spin/3.6W-CONS(10/24/99)) id SAA22978; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:16:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from work.mzaki.nom (mzaki@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by work.mzaki.nom (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10022 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:16:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:16:37 +0900 Message-ID: <86itwu65fu.wl@tkc.att.ne.jp> From: Motomichi Matsuzaki To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NS DP83932 SONIC driver X-Mailer: Wanderlust/2.2.12 (Joyride) XEmacs/21.1 (Bryce Canyon) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by WEMI 1.13.7 - "Shimada") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I ported SONIC ethernet driver into FreeBSD from NetBSD/pc98. The original driver (named 'sn') on NetBSD/pc98 is for several NEC C-bus(alike ISA) and PCMCIA card. There is already 'sn' driver on FreeBSD for SMC 9xxx series ethernet, so I renamed to 'snc' after "SONIC". Is there any objection to this name? And I wonder, Is there any ISA card using this chip? For both 5-current and 4-stable source codes (beta quality) are: http://triaez.kaisei.org/~mzaki/sonic/ Thank you. -- Motomichi Matsuzaki Dept. of Biological Sciences, Grad. School of Science, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 7:27:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C0837B7F1 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA35065; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Motomichi Matsuzaki Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NS DP83932 SONIC driver In-Reply-To: <86itwu65fu.wl@tkc.att.ne.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 4 May 2000, Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: > And I wonder, Is there any ISA card using this chip? Dunno, but I've got some EISA boards that use it. > For both 5-current and 4-stable source codes (beta quality) are: > > http://triaez.kaisei.org/~mzaki/sonic/ I'll take a look. Thanks, a SONIC driver has been on my TODO for a long time now. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 7:42:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E648737B8E5 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tpnelson@echidna.stu.cowan.edu.au) Received: from student.cowan.edu.au (pobax2-150.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.195.150]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23268; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:41:29 +1000 Message-ID: <39118B26.373911D3@student.cowan.edu.au> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 22:37:26 +0800 From: Trent Nelson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: Trent Nelson , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: can't assign resources References: <39107973.F528306C@home.com> <3910EF86.1B3B5981@student.cowan.edu.au> <39111A01.44BBE15A@home.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C9DFBD0703A50F0613FAF78E" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C9DFBD0703A50F0613FAF78E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ted Sikora wrote: > Your right the addresses seem to be standard machine resources. Are you > using SMP? The irq's are remapped on a SMP machine so maybe that's were > the trouble lies? The PNP tag is what has me stumped. I replaced the isa > cards with pci this evening out of curiosity...same thing. Nope, I'm using a UP kernel. Like you mention, I've also taken out my only PCI card (fxp) and disabled the sound interface via the BIOS and I get the same thing. I've toggled the `PnP OS' flag in my BIOS as well which doesn't do anything. From what you've said and what I've experienced; I'm even more convinced the problem's nothing to do with ISA/PCI devices. I'm going to have a look at the code a bit more later on tonight... Another interesting point is the dmesg I get now after I set "int bootverbose" to '1' in `/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c'. I'd really love to hear from a coding-type figure that could determine the severity of a lot of the error messages reported. Ted, would it be possible to see a copy of your kernel? Also, what motherboard do you have? Are there any other coding-type figures actually following this thread? > Ted Sikora > Jtl Development Group > tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Regards, Trent. (dmesg w/ bootverbose=1 attached, please take a look!) --------------C9DFBD0703A50F0613FAF78E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="dmesg.bootverbose" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.bootverbose" Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Wed May 3 21:26:09 WST 2000 root@breaker.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/breaker_03May2000 Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 232779341 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193149 Hz= CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (232.79-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x633 Stepping =3D 3 Features=3D0x80f9ff real memory =3D 66977792 (65408K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00372000 - 0x03fd7fff, 63332352 bytes (15462 pages) avail memory =3D 60895232 (59468K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fdb60 bios32: Entry =3D 0xfdb70 (c00fdb70) Rev =3D 0 Len =3D 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xf0000+0xdb91 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f5ff0 pnpbios: Entry =3D f0000:5904 Rev =3D 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000fa050 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0359000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 Math emulator present npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7190, revid=3D0x03 class=3D06-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f8000000, size 26, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7191, revid=3D0x03 class=3D06-04-00, hdrtype=3D0x01, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D1 secondarybus=3D1 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7110, revid=3D0x02 class=3D06-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D1 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7111, revid=3D0x01 class=3D01-01-80, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ffa0, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7112, revid=3D0x01 class=3D0c-03-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 intpin=3Dd, irq=3D10 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ef80, size 5, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x7113, revid=3D0x02 class=3D06-80-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 map[90]: type 1, range 32, base 00000440, size 4, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x1274, dev=3D0x1371, revid=3D0x06 class=3D04-01-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ef00, size 6, enabled found-> vendor=3D0x8086, dev=3D0x1229, revid=3D0x08 class=3D02-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base febff000, size 12, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 0000ee80, size 6, enabled map[18]: type 1, range 32, base fea00000, size 20, enabled pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci= 0 found-> vendor=3D0x10de, dev=3D0x0020, revid=3D0x04 class=3D03-00-00, hdrtype=3D0x00, mfdev=3D0 subordinatebus=3D0 secondarybus=3D0 intpin=3Da, irq=3D11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base fd000000, size 24, enabled map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f3000000, size 24, enabled pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=3D0x10de, dev=3D0x00= 20) at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 = on pci0 ata0: iobase=3D0x01f0 altiobase=3D0x03f6 bmaddr=3D0xffa0 ata0: mask=3D03 status0=3D50 status1=3D50 ata0: mask=3D03 status0=3D50 status1=3D50 ata0: devices =3D 0x3 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=3D0x0170 altiobase=3D0x0376 bmaddr=3D0xffa8 ata1: mask=3D03 status0=3D50 status1=3D50 ata1: mask=3D03 status0=3D00 status1=3D00 ata1: devices =3D 0xc ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 1= 0 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered intpm0: port 0x440-0x44f irq = 9 at device 7.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped 440 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision -1072283136 smbus0: on intsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped 400 = pcm0: port 0xef00-0xef3f irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0 pcm0: ac97 codec id 0x43525903 pcm0: ac97 codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 6 bit master= volume, = using shared irq9. pcm: setmap 3dd0000, 1000; 0xc1f86000 -> 3dd0000 pcm: setmap 3dd5000, 1000; 0xc1f8b000 -> 3dd5000 fxp0: port 0xee80-0xeebf mem 0x= fea00000-0xfeafffff,0xfebff000-0xfebfffff irq 9 at device 14.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:04:ac:53:46:dd fxp0: supplying EUI64: 00:04:ac:ff:fe:53:46:dd bpf: fxp0 attached pnpbios: 17 devices, largest 194 bytes PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0-0x9fbff, size=3D0x9fc00 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x9fc00-0x9ffff, size=3D0x400 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xe0000-0xfffff, size=3D0x20000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x3fe0000-0x3ff7fff, size=3D0x18000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x3ff8000-0x3ffffff, size=3D0x8000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfec00000-0xfec00fff, size=3D0x1000= PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfee00000-0xfee00fff, size=3D0x1000= PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfff80000-0xffffffff, size=3D0x8000= 0 PNP0c01: end config pnpbios: handle 0 device ID PNP0c01 (010cd041) PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x100000-0x3fdffff, size=3D0x3ee0000= PNP0c01: end config pnpbios: handle 1 device ID PNP0c01 (010cd041) PNP0000: adding io range 0x20-0x21, size=3D0x2, align=3D0x1 PNP0000: adding io range 0xa0-0xa1, size=3D0x2, align=3D0x1 PNP0000: adding irq mask 00x4 PNP0000: end config pnpbios: handle 2 device ID PNP0000 (0000d041) PNP0200: adding dma mask 0x10 PNP0200: adding io range 0-0xf, size=3D0x10, align=3D0x1 PNP0200: adding io range 0x80-0x90, size=3D0x11, align=3D0x1 PNP0200: adding io range 0x94-0x9f, size=3D0xc, align=3D0x1 PNP0200: adding io range 0xc0-0xde, size=3D0x1f, align=3D0x1 PNP0200: end config pnpbios: handle 3 device ID PNP0200 (0002d041) PNP0100: adding irq mask 00x1 PNP0100: adding io range 0x40-0x43, size=3D0x4, align=3D0x1 PNP0100: end config pnpbios: handle 4 device ID PNP0100 (0001d041) PNP0b00: adding irq mask 0x100 PNP0b00: adding io range 0x70-0x71, size=3D0x2, align=3D0x1 PNP0b00: end config pnpbios: handle 5 device ID PNP0b00 (000bd041) PNP0303: adding irq mask 00x2 PNP0303: adding io range 0x60-0x60, size=3D0x1, align=3D0x1 PNP0303: adding io range 0x64-0x64, size=3D0x1, align=3D0x1 PNP0303: end config pnpbios: handle 6 device ID PNP0303 (0303d041) PNP0800: adding io range 0x61-0x61, size=3D0x1, align=3D0x1 PNP0800: end config pnpbios: handle 7 device ID PNP0800 (0008d041) PNP0c04: adding irq mask 0x2000 PNP0c04: adding io range 0xf0-0xff, size=3D0x10, align=3D0x1 PNP0c04: end config pnpbios: handle 8 device ID PNP0c04 (040cd041) PNP0c02: adding io range 0x4d0-0x4d1, size=3D0x2, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0xcf8-0xcff, size=3D0x8, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x10-0x1f, size=3D0x10, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x22-0x3f, size=3D0x1e, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x50-0x52, size=3D0x3, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x72-0x77, size=3D0x6, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x91-0x93, size=3D0x3, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0xa2-0xbe, size=3D0x1d, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x400-0x43f, size=3D0x40, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x440-0x44f, size=3D0x10, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: skipping empty range PNP0c02: end config pnpbios: handle 9 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041) PNP0c02: adding io range 0x290-0x297, size=3D0x8, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x370-0x371, size=3D0x2, align=3D0x1 PNP0c02: end config pnpbios: handle 10 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041) PNP0501: adding io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=3D0x8, align=3D0x8 PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x10 PNP0501: end config pnpbios: handle 11 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) PNP0c02: end config pnpbios: handle 12 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041) PNP0400: adding io range 0x378-0x37f, size=3D0x8, align=3D0x8 PNP0400: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=3D0, align=3D0x8 PNP0400: adding irq mask 0x80 PNP0400: adding dma mask 00 PNP0400: end config pnpbios: handle 13 device ID PNP0400 (0004d041) PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f0-0x3f5, size=3D0x6, align=3D0x1 PNP0700: adding irq mask 0x40 PNP0700: adding dma mask 0x4 PNP0700: end config pnpbios: handle 14 device ID PNP0700 (0007d041) PNP0f13: adding irq mask 0x1000 PNP0f13: end config pnpbios: handle 15 device ID PNP0f13 (130fd041) PNP0a03: end config pnpbios: handle 16 device ID PNP0a03 (030ad041) Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0= fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0065 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: status 00 00 64 psm: status 00 03 64 psm: status 00 03 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 10 00 64 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 02 64 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0= fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 = bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 05 50 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 = b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c = 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff = VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 = bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 = b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c = 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff = EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 = bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 = b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c = 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff = sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x200> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x51 0x41 0x41 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x1 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: EPP SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode nTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 1Tppbus0: IEEE1284 device found n1/NIBBLETn2ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0= xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 8ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 8ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 4ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 1/NIBBLE_IDTn2ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 8ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 8ppb1284: error=3D1 status=3D0xe8 event=3D7 TnTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 0T/Extensibility LinkTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: nTppb1284: error=3D3 status=3D0xd8 event=3D24 1BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB= BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBTppb: 102 characters: (0x0) f(0x66) M= (0x4d) F(0x46) G(0x47) :(0x3a) C(0x43) a(0x61) n(0x6e) o(0x6f) n(0x6e) ;(= 0x3b) C(0x43) M(0x4d) D(0x44) :(0x3a) B(0x42) J(0x4a) ,(0x2c) L(0x4c) Q(0= x51) ,(0x2c) B(0x42) J(0x4a) L(0x4c) ,(0x2c) B(0x42) J(0x4a) R(0x52) a(0x= 61) s(0x73) t(0x74) e(0x65) r(0x72) ,(0x2c) B(0x42) S(0x53) C(0x43) C(0x4= 3) ;(0x3b) M(0x4d) D(0x44) L(0x4c) :(0x3a) B(0x42) J(0x4a) C(0x43) -(0x2d= ) 2(0x32) 6(0x36) 5(0x35) S(0x53) P(0x50) ;(0x3b) C(0x43) L(0x4c) S(0x53)= :(0x3a) P(0x50) R(0x52) I(0x49) N(0x4e) T(0x54) E(0x45) R(0x52) ;(0x3b) = D(0x44) E(0x45) S(0x53) :(0x3a) C(0x43) a(0x61) n(0x6e) o(0x6f) n(0x6e) = (0x20) B(0x42) J(0x4a) C(0x43) -(0x2d) 2(0x32) 6(0x36) 5(0x35) S(0x53) P(= 0x50) ;(0x3b) V(0x56) E(0x45) R(0x52) :(0x3a) 1(0x31) .(0x2e) 0(0x30) 0(0= x30) ;(0x3b) S(0x53) T(0x54) A(0x41) :(0x3a) 1(0x31) 0(0x30) ;(0x3b) = ppbus0: PRINTER BJ,LQ,BJL,BJRaster,BSCC lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices unknown0: at iomem 0-0x9fbff,0x9fc00-0x9ffff,0xe0000-0xfffff,0x= 3fe0000-0x3ff7fff,0x3ff8000-0x3ffffff,0xfec00000-0xfec00fff,0xfee00000-0x= fee00fff,0xfff80000-0xffffffff on isa0 unknown1: at iomem 0x100000-0x3fdffff on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown2: at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x90,0x94-0x9f,0xc0-0xde drq 4 on = isa0 unknown3: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 unknown4: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown5: at port 0x61 on isa0 unknown6: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown7: at port 0x290-0x297,0x370-0x371 on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown8: on isa0 unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown: can't assign resources unknown9: on isa0 BIOS Geometries: 0:03fefe3f 0..1022=3D1023 cylinders, 0..254=3D255 heads, 1..63=3D63 sect= ors 1:030c7f3f 0..780=3D781 cylinders, 0..127=3D128 heads, 1..63=3D63 sector= s 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. bpf: sl0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached new masks: bio 4008c440, tty 40031292, net 40071292 bpf: lo0 attached bpf: gif0 attached bpf: gif1 attached bpf: gif2 attached bpf: gif3 attached bpf: stf0 attached bpf: faith0 attached ata0-master: success setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip ad0: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as master ad0: 8063MB (16514064 sectors), 16383 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33 ad0: piomode=3D4 dmamode=3D2 udmamode=3D2 cblid=3D0 Creating DISK ad0 Creating DISK wd0 ata0-slave: success setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip ad1: ATA-3 disk at ata0 as slave ad1: 3079MB (6306048 sectors), 6256 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA33 ad1: piomode=3D4 dmamode=3D2 udmamode=3D2 cblid=3D0 Creating DISK ad1 Creating DISK wd1 ata1-master: piomode=3D4 dmamode=3D2 udmamode=3D-1 dmaflag=3D1 ata1-master: success setting up WDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip acd0: CD-RW drive at ata1 as m= aster acd0: read 4134KB/s (4134KB/s) write 689KB/s (689KB/s), 2048KB buffer, WD= MA2 acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet acd0: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked ata1-slave: piomode=3D3 dmamode=3D1 udmamode=3D-1 dmaflag=3D1 ata1-slave: success setting up PIO3 mode on generic chip acd1: CDROM drive at ata1 as slave acd1: read 4134KB/s (4134KB/s), 128KB buffer, PIO3 acd1: Reads: CD-DA stream acd1: Audio: play, 16 volume levels acd1: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd1: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ad0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end =3D 12578894, size 12578832 : OK ad0s2: type 0xe, start 12578895, end =3D 16498754, size 3919860 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init WARNING: run /dev/MAKEDEV before 2000-06-01 to get rid of block devices Linux-ELF exec handler installed splash: image decoder found: logo_saver ad1s1: type 0x7, start 63, end =3D 6306047, size 6305985 : OK --------------C9DFBD0703A50F0613FAF78E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 8:15:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mf004.infoweb.ne.jp (mf004.infoweb.ne.jp [210.131.99.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ACC37B760; Thu, 4 May 2000 08:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fwhs0864@mb.infoweb.ne.jp) Received: from LEE00550 by mf004.infoweb.ne.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-10/13/99) with SMTP id XAA12218; Thu, 4 May 2000 23:51:51 +0900 Message-ID: <004d01bfb5d8$b6ccc620$ecf7dbca@LEE00550> From: "MNAYURI" To: Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCMj5FUE8/JE8jNTduIzEjNUZ8JF4kRyEqOiMkSiRpQUAkKCRrGyhC?= 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------=_NextPart_000_0049_01BFB623.8B53D1A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 9:29:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ct.home.com [24.2.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CEC37C0DB for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.2.168.186]) by mail.rdc1.ct.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000504162920.CMRV18096.mail.rdc1.ct.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 4 May 2000 09:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3911A529.9AE2ECF9@home.com> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 12:28:25 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trent Nelson , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: can't assign resources References: <39107973.F528306C@home.com> <3910EF86.1B3B5981@student.cowan.edu.au> <39111A01.44BBE15A@home.com> <39118B26.373911D3@student.cowan.edu.au> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A62503F67F49577ABD70D7AB" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A62503F67F49577ABD70D7AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trent Nelson wrote: > > Ted Sikora wrote: > > > Your right the addresses seem to be standard machine resources. Are you > > using SMP? The irq's are remapped on a SMP machine so maybe that's were > > the trouble lies? The PNP tag is what has me stumped. I replaced the isa > > cards with pci this evening out of curiosity...same thing. > > Nope, I'm using a UP kernel. Like you mention, I've also taken out my > only PCI card (fxp) and disabled the sound interface via the BIOS and I > get the same thing. I've toggled the `PnP OS' flag in my BIOS as well > which doesn't do anything. > > From what you've said and what I've experienced; I'm even more > convinced the problem's nothing to do with ISA/PCI devices. I'm going to > have a look at the code a bit more later on tonight... > > Another interesting point is the dmesg I get now after I set "int > bootverbose" to '1' in `/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c'. I'd really > love to hear from a coding-type figure that could determine the severity > of a lot of the error messages reported. > > Ted, would it be possible to see a copy of your kernel? Also, what > motherboard do you have? > ABit BP6 2x400 Celerons @ 468Mhz or 6x78 The kernel bootup messages are attached. --Ted --------------A62503F67F49577ABD70D7AB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="kernel.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="kernel.txt" May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Thu May 4 09:54:48 EDT 2000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: root@telecast.htfds1.ct.home.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/TELECAST May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (467.98-MHz 686-class CPU) May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x665 Stepping = 5 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Features=0x183fbff May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: avail memory = 61837312 (60388K bytes) May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0365000. May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: npx0: on motherboard May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pcib0: on motherboard May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pci0: on pcib0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pci1: on pcib1 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pci1: at 0.0 irq 16 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: isa0: on isab0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pci0: at 7.2 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: intpm0: port 0x5000-0x500f irq 9 at device 7.3 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: intpm0: I/O mapped 5000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision -1072311040 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: smbus0: on intsmb0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: smb0: on smbus0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: intpm0: PM I/O mapped 4000 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ed0: port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at device 9.0 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ed0: supplying EUI64: 00:60:67:ff:fe:22:c8:84 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ed0: address 00:60:67:22:c8:84, type NE2000 (16 bit) May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: pcm0: port 0xc800-0xc83f irq 17 at device 13.0 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: atapci1: port 0xd400-0xd4ff,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xcc07 irq 18 at device 19.0 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ata2: at 0xcc00 on atapci1 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: atapci2: port 0xe000-0xe0ff,0xdc00-0xdc03,0xd800-0xd807 irq 18 at device 19.1 on pci0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: sc0: on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: sio0: type 16550A May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: lpt0: on ppbus0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown0: at port 0x20-0x21,0xa0-0xa1 irq 2 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown1: at port 0-0xf,0x81-0x83,0x87,0x89-0x8b,0x8f-0x91,0xc0-0xdf drq 4 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown2: at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown3: at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown4: at port 0x61 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown5: at port 0xf0-0xff irq 13 on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown6: at iomem 0-0x9ffff,0xfffe0000-0xffffffff,0xfec00000-0xfec0ffff,0xfee00000-0xfee0ffff,0x100000-0x3ffffff on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown7: at iomem 0xf0000-0xf3fff,0xf4000-0xf7fff,0xf8000-0xfffff,0xd1800-0xd3fff on isa0 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: unknown: can't assign resources May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ad4: 9765MB [19841/16/63] at ata2-master using UDMA33 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ed0: starting DAD for fe80:0001::0260:67ff:fe22:c884 May 4 12:20:03 telecast /kernel: ed0: DAD complete for fe80:0001::0260:67ff:fe22:c884 - no duplicates found May 4 12:20:05 telecast sshd[179]: Listener created on port 22. May 4 12:20:05 telecast sshd[180]: Daemon is running. May 4 12:20:12 telecast login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv0 --------------A62503F67F49577ABD70D7AB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 10:52:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7337B557 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 10:52:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00936; Thu, 4 May 2000 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005041800.LAA00936@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Cc: Trent Nelson , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: can't assign resources In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 May 2000 02:34:41 EDT." <39111A01.44BBE15A@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:00:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Could someone please either take a look at this, or give an > > authoritative comment as to why it's happening. This is the ISA PnP code reporting devices enumerated via the PnP BIOS. At the moment, our support code isn't smart enough to use either the PnP interface or the resource manager, so the unknown device claims these resources to prevent anyone else trying to use them. It's quite harmless, and once things are cleaned up, you won't even see the messages. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 12:16:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8CF37C5AC for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhesi@rahul.net) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 104) id 64E077D0D; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:16:38 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: gratuituous arp for multiple IP addresses References: X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.6 (NOV) Message-Id: <20000504191638.64E077D0D@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:16:38 -0700 (PDT) From: dhesi@rahul.net (Rahul Dhesi) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was recently struck by this problem: Machine running 3.4-STABLE has multiple IP addresses on each of two network interfaces. IP addresses on network interfaces are exchanged for debugging. (de0 gets the IP addresses that de1 had, and vice versa). Machine is rebooted. Connectivity is now lost to secondary IP addresses on each interface, presumably because upstream router's arp cache still has old entries. Said router's arp timeout is long and said router is not under my control. Router administrator eventually forces a cache flush some time later, which restores connectivity. I think a possible solution would be for some future release of FreeBSD-CURRENT to send a gratuituous arp packet, at boot time, for each IP address on each interface. (It appears that FreeBSD does send a gratuituous arp but only for the primary IP address on each interface -- connectivity to the primary IP addresses was observed to be intact after the reboot.) Please correct me if I am making any wrong assumptions. -- Rahul Dhesi (spam-filtered with RSS and ORBS) See my ORBS faq: http://www.rahul.net/dhesi/orbs.faq.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 12:18:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84AAB37B635 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 17749 invoked from network); 4 May 2000 19:18:38 -0000 Received: from lc210.cvzoom.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (208.226.154.210) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 4 May 2000 19:18:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3911CD0E.7E41F201@cvzoom.net> Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 15:18:38 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: the newer binutils Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I noticed that a newer version of binutils is in the source code tree (2.91). Is there anything that needs to be set during the make world to make 2.91 the default binutils? - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 12:47:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (p3E9B8F08.dip.t-dialin.net [62.155.143.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AA037C0E0 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA36623; Thu, 4 May 2000 21:41:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005041941.VAA36623@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 May 2000 23:00:26 +0200." <200005032100.OAA64943@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 21:41:47 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon writes: >:Thanks, but there is code in rl_rxeof() to align to a 32 bit boundary. >:If that weren't the case than I would expect the Alpha to panic with >:other IP applications, not just NFS. >: >:I don't know, NFS must be doing something weird. >: >:--- >:Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org > > NFS will realign the data payload for misaligned packets. > > I agree it sounds like an issue in the NFS code somewhere. Something > that is slipping through unnoticed. If someone can get a crash dump > and do a stack backtrace, or even a simple DDB 'trace', it should be > opssible to track the problem down. OK. Unfortunately, gdb core dumps when I try to analyze a crash dump with a debugging kernel :( Even worse, gdb core dumps when I try to run a debugging gdb in gdb to find out why gdb is core dumping when I try to debug a kernel with symbols :(( Wonderful. I've managed to produce 5 crash dumps so far. Trace in ddb shows that the kernel is panicing in various places, so Matt's thesis that it will be easy to pinpoint is apparently shot full of holes :( I've tried various combinations of nfs mounting with tcp, nfsv2, nfsv3, w=1024 and r=1024. Using TCP mounts makes the panic happen less quickly, but as soon as I `ls' a "big" directory the kernel panics. "Big" seems to be more than 10 or 15 entries. Anyway, here's some of the output from a trace in ddb: panic() at panic+0x100 trap() at trap+0x610 XentUna() at XentUna+0x200 [here a list of various locations in the nfs code from various panics] nfs_readdirrpc() at nfs_readdirrpc+0x10ec nfs_readdirrpc() at nfs_readdirrpc+0x12bc nfs_request() at nfs_request+0x79c nfs3_access_otw() at nfs3_access_otw+0x744 nfs_lookup() at [I didn't write down the offset] _GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_ Looking at a disassembly of e.g. nfs_readdirrpc tells me nothing at all. The Alpha's assembly is highly non-transparent. Trying to figure where the corresponding line in the C-code is located is pretty much impossible without debugging symbols - but see above. Looks like I'll have to live without NFS. At least cvsup works so I can keep my src and ports up to date. BTW I'm not using any off-the-wall options to compile the kernel. Just -O -pipe. --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 15:41:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2778437C2A9 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA07824; Thu, 4 May 2000 18:44:11 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <200005042244.SAA07824@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha To: garyj@muc.de Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200005041941.VAA36623@peedub.muc.de> from "Gary Jennejohn" at May 4, 2000 09:41:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3154 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Gary Jennejohn had to walk into mine and say: > OK. Unfortunately, gdb core dumps when I try to analyze a crash dump > with a debugging kernel :( Even worse, gdb core dumps when I try to > run a debugging gdb in gdb to find out why gdb is core dumping when > I try to debug a kernel with symbols :(( Wonderful. I suspect this may have something to do with the way packets sometimes wrap from the end of the RX buffer pool to the beginning. This might result in fragmentation across multiple mbufs in some cases (I think). If I squint hard enough, I can see a way for the data to end up misaligned in one of the additional mbufs. Try this patch. It's an untested hack (I don't have a RealTek card in a test box right this second) but should fix the problem if it's what I think it is. -Bill P.S.: Regardless, somebody should fix gdb. -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= *** if_rl.c.orig Sat Apr 29 14:15:10 2000 --- if_rl.c Thu May 4 22:16:31 2000 *************** *** 913,919 **** goto fail; } ! sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf = contigmalloc(RL_RXBUFLEN + 32, M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT, 0, 0xffffffff, PAGE_SIZE, 0); if (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf == NULL) { --- 911,917 ---- goto fail; } ! sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf = contigmalloc(RL_RXBUFLEN + 1518, M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT, 0, 0xffffffff, PAGE_SIZE, 0); if (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf == NULL) { *************** *** 1122,1129 **** wrap = (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf + RL_RXBUFLEN) - rxbufpos; if (total_len > wrap) { m = m_devget(rxbufpos - RL_ETHER_ALIGN, ! wrap + RL_ETHER_ALIGN, 0, ifp, NULL); if (m == NULL) { ifp->if_ierrors++; printf("rl%d: out of mbufs, tried to " --- 1120,1132 ---- wrap = (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf + RL_RXBUFLEN) - rxbufpos; if (total_len > wrap) { + /* + * Fool m_devget() into thinking we want to copy + * the whole buffer so we don't end up fragmenting + * the data. + */ m = m_devget(rxbufpos - RL_ETHER_ALIGN, ! total_len + RL_ETHER_ALIGN, 0, ifp, NULL); if (m == NULL) { ifp->if_ierrors++; printf("rl%d: out of mbufs, tried to " *************** *** 1132,1145 **** m_adj(m, RL_ETHER_ALIGN); m_copyback(m, wrap, total_len - wrap, sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf); - if (m->m_len < sizeof(struct ether_header)) - m = m_pullup(m, - sizeof(struct ether_header)); - if (m == NULL) { - printf("rl%d: m_pullup failed", - sc->rl_unit); - ifp->if_ierrors++; - } } cur_rx = (total_len - wrap + ETHER_CRC_LEN); } else { --- 1135,1140 ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu May 4 17:14:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CD537B5B2 for ; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.cdrom.com [204.216.28.153]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA98046; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA28319; Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:14:40 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Donn Miller Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the newer binutils Message-ID: <20000504171440.A28228@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3911CD0E.7E41F201@cvzoom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3911CD0E.7E41F201@cvzoom.net>; from dmmiller@cvzoom.net on Thu, May 04, 2000 at 03:18:38PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 03:18:38PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > I noticed that a newer version of binutils is in the source code tree > (2.91). Is there anything that needs to be set during the make world > to make 2.91 the default binutils? Uh... that would be 2.9.1 which is the version that is currently built. Other than eat up your disk space, I haven't done anything public with Binutils yet. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 0:14:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peedub.muc.de (peedub.muc.de [193.149.49.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDB737BAB7 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 00:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA37756; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200005050708.JAA37756@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Bill Paul Cc: dillon@apollo.backplane.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS, rl0 and Alpha Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 May 2000 00:40:39 +0200." <200005042244.SAA07824@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:08:25 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul writes: >Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Gary Jennejohn >had to walk into mine and say: > >> OK. Unfortunately, gdb core dumps when I try to analyze a crash dump >> with a debugging kernel :( Even worse, gdb core dumps when I try to >> run a debugging gdb in gdb to find out why gdb is core dumping when >> I try to debug a kernel with symbols :(( Wonderful. > >I suspect this may have something to do with the way packets sometimes >wrap from the end of the RX buffer pool to the beginning. This might >result in fragmentation across multiple mbufs in some cases (I think). >If I squint hard enough, I can see a way for the data to end up misaligned >in one of the additional mbufs. > >Try this patch. It's an untested hack (I don't have a RealTek card >in a test box right this second) but should fix the problem if it's >what I think it is. > > >*** if_rl.c.orig Sat Apr 29 14:15:10 2000 >--- if_rl.c Thu May 4 22:16:31 2000 >*************** >*** 913,919 **** > goto fail; > } > >! sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf = contigmalloc(RL_RXBUFLEN + 32, M_DEVBUF, > M_NOWAIT, 0, 0xffffffff, PAGE_SIZE, 0); > > if (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf == NULL) { >--- 911,917 ---- > goto fail; > } > >! sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf = contigmalloc(RL_RXBUFLEN + 1518, M_DEVBUF, > M_NOWAIT, 0, 0xffffffff, PAGE_SIZE, 0); > > if (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf == NULL) { >*************** >*** 1122,1129 **** > wrap = (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf + RL_RXBUFLEN) - rxbufpos; > > if (total_len > wrap) { > m = m_devget(rxbufpos - RL_ETHER_ALIGN, >! wrap + RL_ETHER_ALIGN, 0, ifp, NULL); > if (m == NULL) { > ifp->if_ierrors++; > printf("rl%d: out of mbufs, tried to " >--- 1120,1132 ---- > wrap = (sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf + RL_RXBUFLEN) - rxbufpos; > > if (total_len > wrap) { >+ /* >+ * Fool m_devget() into thinking we want to copy >+ * the whole buffer so we don't end up fragmenting >+ * the data. >+ */ > m = m_devget(rxbufpos - RL_ETHER_ALIGN, >! total_len + RL_ETHER_ALIGN, 0, ifp, NULL); > if (m == NULL) { > ifp->if_ierrors++; > printf("rl%d: out of mbufs, tried to " >*************** >*** 1132,1145 **** > m_adj(m, RL_ETHER_ALIGN); > m_copyback(m, wrap, total_len - wrap, > sc->rl_cdata.rl_rx_buf); >- if (m->m_len < sizeof(struct ether_header)) >- m = m_pullup(m, >- sizeof(struct ether_header)); >- if (m == NULL) { >- printf("rl%d: m_pullup failed", >- sc->rl_unit); >- ifp->if_ierrors++; >- } > } > cur_rx = (total_len - wrap + ETHER_CRC_LEN); > } else { >--- 1135,1140 ---- Yes, this patch fixes the problem. Thank you, Bill Paul ! --- Gary Jennejohn / garyj@muc.de gj@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 6:31:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F35537B8B9; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12niCA-0008eF-0K; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:31:06 +0000 Received: from henny.qubesoft.com (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA47033; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:31:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:30:06 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Leif Neland , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic at boot (bus_generic_probe) with 2 printers ENABLED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arg. What I really wanted to say was: When it drops into the debugger, type 'trace' without quotes. *sigh* /me wanders off in search for a brain On Fri, 5 May 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: > > No, could you add > > options DDB > makeoptions DEBUG=-g > > to your kernel config and compile again? And reboot? > > When the kernel panics it will end up in the kernel debugger. When that > happens, please write down the function names it comes up with. > > if there is a function called ppbus_attach in there, please write down > its arguments as well. > > Nick > > > > On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > > > -On [20000430 11:50], Leif Neland (leifn@neland.dk) wrote: > > >In a freshly cvsup'ed current, I get a panic at boot, if both ports are > > >enabled in userconfig. > > >If only one or the other is enabled, it works. > > > > > >I have narrowed it down to it panics the second time ppbconf calls > > >bus_generic_probe: > > > > > >trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > > > >bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a502c,0(%ebx) > > >ebx is 0xe0 > > > > How about adding: > > > > options BUS_DEBUG > > > > to your kernel config file and perhaps even boot verbose and show us the > > details of /var/log/messages? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator > > VIA Net.Works The Netherlands > > BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl > > Answering the questions that no one asks... > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > -- > n_hibma@webweaving.org > n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project > http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ > > -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 6:32:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F09B37B90A; Fri, 5 May 2000 06:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12niD9-0003NL-0A; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:32:07 +0000 Received: from henny.qubesoft.com (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA46928; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:29:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:28:44 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Cc: Leif Neland , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic at boot (bus_generic_probe) with 2 printers ENABLED In-Reply-To: <20000430171742.C35474@lucifer.bart.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, could you add options DDB makeoptions DEBUG=-g to your kernel config and compile again? And reboot? When the kernel panics it will end up in the kernel debugger. When that happens, please write down the function names it comes up with. if there is a function called ppbus_attach in there, please write down its arguments as well. Nick On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [20000430 11:50], Leif Neland (leifn@neland.dk) wrote: > >In a freshly cvsup'ed current, I get a panic at boot, if both ports are > >enabled in userconfig. > >If only one or the other is enabled, it works. > > > >I have narrowed it down to it panics the second time ppbconf calls > >bus_generic_probe: > > > >trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > > > >bus_generic_probe+0x25: cmpl $0xc02a502c,0(%ebx) > >ebx is 0xe0 > > How about adding: > > options BUS_DEBUG > > to your kernel config file and perhaps even boot verbose and show us the > details of /var/log/messages? > > Thanks, > > -- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator > VIA Net.Works The Netherlands > BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl > Answering the questions that no one asks... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 7:36:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698AC37B71A; Fri, 5 May 2000 07:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12nj96-000PXU-0B; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:32:05 +0000 Received: from henny.qubesoft.com (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA49031; Fri, 5 May 2000 15:31:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@calcaphon.com) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:30:59 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Mike Nowlin Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnats@freebsd.org, Tim Pozar , nsouch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/16767 [PATCH] (A.K.A. Re: Geek Port crash) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-965986746-957537059=:10129" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-965986746-957537059=:10129 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You seem to have put in some hard work there. Yes, your analysis is correct. the problem has been corrected not so long ago, albeit in a slightly different way. As it is now the ppi bus does not attach if the bus is polled mode. But you are saying it works in polled mode as well. I've attached a patch that only enables the alloc and setup of the irq in the case where PERIPH_1284 is defined. If that is defined, then the irq alloc is attempted, but if it fails, your patch kicks in and does not set it up in ppiopen. The patch is against current as of 2000-05-05, so you will have to update that part of the source. If this is not an option for you, let me know and send me the output of ident ppi.c, so I can make a patch for you. Mike, please let me know if this works for you. Nicolas, could you tell me whether this is the correct thing to do? the thing that I think is missing is somehow the possibility to use 'interrupts' even in polled mode. Basically the ppbus should simulate the interrupt by calling the interrupt after a poll has decided that an interrupt has occurred. Mike, well done! 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Thank you, Bill Paul ! *sigh* It figures. Ok, I applied the patch to -current and -stable. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Please drive through. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 9:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175EF37B787 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04850 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:32:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200005051632.MAA04850@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: make buildworld breakage To: current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 12:32:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone else, or am I special? ==ml ===> usr.bin/systat cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/cmds.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/cmdtab.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/devs.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/fetch.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/iostat.c In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/iostat.c:68: /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys/sys/buf.h:91: field `b_io' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/systat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 9:35:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C8E37BBA9 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.freebsd.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01319; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:34:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Michael Lucas Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld breakage In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 May 2000 12:32:21 EDT." <200005051632.MAA04850@blackhelicopters.org> Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 18:34:27 +0200 Message-ID: <1317.957544467@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Already fixed. In message <200005051632.MAA04850@blackhelicopters.org>, Michael Lucas writes: >Anyone else, or am I special? > >===> usr.bin/systat >cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/iostat.c >In file included from /usr/src/usr.bin/systat/iostat.c:68: >/usr/src/usr.bin/systat/../../sys/sys/buf.h:91: field `b_io' has incomplete type >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src/usr.bin/systat. > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 11:18:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ozz.freebsd.org.ru (ozz.etrust.ru [194.84.67.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CF537BBB2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:18:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@ozz.freebsd.org.ru) Received: (from osa@localhost) by ozz.freebsd.org.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15535 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:18:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from osa) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 22:18:19 +0400 From: Sergey Osokin To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: make buildworld failed... Message-ID: <20000505221819.A15521@freebsd.org.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! After cvsuped my 5.0-CURRENT (FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon May 1 02:25:08 MSD 2000) i try to buildworld... # make -DNOCLEAN -j6 buildworld .... ===> librsausa mkdir: openssl: File exists cp /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../libcrypto/opensslconf-i386.h openssl/opensslconf.h *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Any idea? Rgdz, Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, osa@FreeBSD.org.ru http://www.FreeBSD.org.ru/~osa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 11:29: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E43037B6D5 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 17323 invoked from network); 5 May 2000 18:29:02 -0000 Received: from lc210.cvzoom.net (208.226.154.210) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 5 May 2000 18:29:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:29:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller To: Sergey Osokin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failed... In-Reply-To: <20000505221819.A15521@freebsd.org.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Sergey Osokin wrote: > Hello! > After cvsuped my 5.0-CURRENT (FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon May 1 02:25:08 MSD 2000) > i try to buildworld... > > # make -DNOCLEAN -j6 buildworld > .... > ===> librsausa > mkdir: openssl: File exists > cp /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../libcrypto/opensslconf-i386.h openssl/opensslconf.h [snip] There was a problem with make -j6 a while back on an older -current. What you ought to do is cvsup again and then try again. It appears as though it is fixed now, as make -j6 has given me no problems. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 11:41:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hole.etrust.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50BEA37BBB2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from osa@hole.etrust.ru) Received: (from osa@localhost) by hole.etrust.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28842; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:39:23 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from osa) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 22:39:23 +0400 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: Donn Miller Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make buildworld failed... Message-ID: <20000505223922.A28778@freebsd.org.ru> Reply-To: osa@freebsd.org.ru References: <20000505221819.A15521@freebsd.org.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dmmiller@cvzoom.net on Fri, May 05, 2000 at 02:29:01PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 02:29:01PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Sergey Osokin wrote: > > > Hello! > > After cvsuped my 5.0-CURRENT (FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon May 1 02:25:08 MSD 2000) > > i try to buildworld... > > > > # make -DNOCLEAN -j6 buildworld > > .... > > ===> librsausa > > mkdir: openssl: File exists > > cp /usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../libcrypto/opensslconf-i386.h openssl/opensslconf.h > > [snip] > > There was a problem with make -j6 a while back on an older -current. What > you ought to do is cvsup again and then try again. It appears as though > it is fixed now, as make -j6 has given me no problems. hmm Now i cvsuped my source-tree: Connecting to cvsup.ru.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.ru.freebsd.org Server software version: REL_16_1 Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs Updating collection cvs-crypto/cvs Updating collection ports-all/cvs What now? I think buildworld now is dead too... Rgdz, Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, osa@freebsd.org.ru http://www.freebsd.org.ru/~osa/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 17:30:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2C037B907 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11795; Fri, 5 May 2000 17:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005060030.RAA11795@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: jmz set sender to jmz@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can someone explain this? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is something I don't understand: $ sh -c '/usr/bin/time ./a.out' 2.40 real 2.38 user 0.01 sys $ /usr/bin/time ./a.out 7.19 real 7.19 user 0.00 sys The same program is 3 times slower in the second case. The effect is systematic but depends on the program being run. I have seen inverse behavior with another program. Using time -l, I note that this seems to be related with a higher value of 'involuntary context switches' (3 times more switches in the slower case). Running -current (SMP) Here is my test program: main () { int i; double x, y, z; for (i = 0; i < 100000000; i++) z = y*x; } Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 18:52: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C08537BC87 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 18:52:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e461pwL14547 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:51:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:51:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: current@freebsd.org Subject: RSA decrypt problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is anyone else noticing the following problems on their -current boxen? I first noticed when my apache webserver quit allowing secure connections with errors like this. [Fri May 5 20:46:19 2000] [error] mod_ssl: SSL handshake failed (server new.host.name:443, client 127.0.0.1) (OpenSSL library error follows) [Fri May 5 20:46:19 2000] [error] OpenSSL: error:1E06D401:RSAref routines:func(109) :reason(1025) [Fri May 5 20:46:19 2000] [error] OpenSSL: error:1408B076:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_KEY_EXCHANGE:bad rsa decrypt steve@bonsai(~)$ openssl OpenSSL> speed rsa Doing 512 bit private rsa's for 10s: 317 512 bit private RSA's in 9.96s Doing 512 bit public rsa's for 10s: 3664 512 bit public RSA's in 9.99s Doing 1024 bit private rsa's for 10s: 51 1024 bit private RSA's in 10.16s Doing 1024 bit public rsa's for 10s: 1002 1024 bit public RSA's in 9.94s Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: RSA private encrypt failure 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: 1 2048 bit private RSA's in 0.00s Doing 2048 bit public rsa's for 10s: RSA verify failure 14674:error:04077077:rsa routines:RSA_verify:wrong signature length:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_sign.c:149: 14674:error:04077077:rsa routines:RSA_verify:wrong signature length:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/rsa/rsa_sign.c:149: 1 2048 bit public RSA's in 0.00s OpenSSL 0.9.5a 1 Apr 2000 built on: Fri Apr 21 16:31:20 CDT 2000 options:bn(64,32) md2(int) rc4(idx,int) des(ptr,risc1,16,long) blowfish(idx) compiler: cc sign verify sign/s verify/s rsa 512 bits 0.0314s 0.0027s 31.8 366.7 rsa 1024 bits 0.1991s 0.0099s 5.0 100.8 rsa 2048 bits 0.0010s 0.0010s 1000.0 1000.0 OpenSSL> quit This is with sources last updated on April 21, 2000. I rebuilt and reinstalled rsaref from sources just before I ran this test just in case that had something to do with it. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:10:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5670437BE59; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA24693; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:10:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Price Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Steve Price wrote: > [Fri May 5 20:46:19 2000] [error] OpenSSL: error:1E06D401:RSAref > routines:func(109) :reason(1025) You can interpret these error codes by looking up the defines in - for example, these two are: #define RSAREF_F_RSA_REF_PRIVATE_DECRYPT 109 #define RSAREF_R_DATA 0x0401 which doesn't tell you much in itself. However: > Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: RSA private encrypt failure > 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) > :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: > 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) > :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: > 1 2048 bit private RSA's in 0.00s #define RSAREF_F_RSAREF_BN2BIN 101 #define RSAREF_R_LEN 0x0406 RSARef can't handle keys > 1024 bits long. This is a design limitation which the license forbids us from fixing. Does your webserver use a long key? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8FC37B607; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navipath.com) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navipath.com with id e463Ggc20076; Fri, 5 May 2000 23:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:16:42 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Steve Price , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems Message-ID: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, May 05, 2000 at 08:10:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FWIW, I've had a weird (perhaps related) problem, only in the reverse. After creating a certificate (ie: 'make certificate' in apache), I was unable to connect to the server from a Netscape 4.72 browser. It only told me there was a decryption error in the apache logs. ? On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 08:10:27PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Steve Price wrote: > > > [Fri May 5 20:46:19 2000] [error] OpenSSL: error:1E06D401:RSAref > > routines:func(109) :reason(1025) > > You can interpret these error codes by looking up the defines in > - for example, these two are: > > #define RSAREF_F_RSA_REF_PRIVATE_DECRYPT 109 > #define RSAREF_R_DATA 0x0401 > > which doesn't tell you much in itself. However: > > > Doing 2048 bit private rsa's for 10s: RSA private encrypt failure > > 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) > > :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: > > 14674:error:1E065406:RSAref routines:func(101) > > :reason(1030):/usr/src/secure/lib/librsausa/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/../rsaref/rsaref.c:125: > > 1 2048 bit private RSA's in 0.00s > > #define RSAREF_F_RSAREF_BN2BIN 101 > #define RSAREF_R_LEN 0x0406 > > RSARef can't handle keys > 1024 bits long. This is a design limitation > which the license forbids us from fixing. > > Does your webserver use a long key? > > Kris > > ---- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885EA37B58E; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navipath.com) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navipath.com with id e463K1g20152; Fri, 5 May 2000 23:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:20:01 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Steve Price , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems Message-ID: <20000505232001.G13732@drama.navipath.com> References: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com>; from forrie@navipath.com on Fri, May 05, 2000 at 11:16:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I understand, from private correspondence, that OpenSSH will have SSH2 protocol support, thus allowing people to not use RSA. Can someone confirm as it applies to use on FreeBSD. I personally find the RSARef licensing to be a sham, in the light of everything else on the internet, an would rather not have to use it. But SSH1 requires it in the protocol. _F To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:25:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7ADA37B58E; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA25573; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: Steve Price , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <20000505232001.G13732@drama.navipath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I understand, from private correspondence, that OpenSSH will have > SSH2 protocol support, thus allowing people to not use RSA. Can > someone confirm as it applies to use on FreeBSD. It's being developed in the current version of OpenSSH. I'll probably update to a more recent snapshot soon - I got a message from Markus Friedl confirming it should be stable enough to update to. > I personally find the RSARef licensing to be a sham, in the light > of everything else on the internet, an would rather not have to > use it. But SSH1 requires it in the protocol. Roll on September 20! :-) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:37:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F5537B81A; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e463bbk05340; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 22:37:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Kris Kennaway Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # #define RSAREF_F_RSAREF_BN2BIN 101 # #define RSAREF_R_LEN 0x0406 # # RSARef can't handle keys > 1024 bits long. This is a design limitation # which the license forbids us from fixing. # # Does your webserver use a long key? Nope. I generated the key with 'make certificate' on the apache13-php4 port. Here's what openssl says about the key. % openssl rsa -noout -text -in server.key | grep bit Private-Key: (1024 bit) % I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't something that has changed in the ports. My problems started when I pkg_delete'd the apache13-modssl port to install the apach13-php4 port with modssl support so that I could play around with php4. It worked before I did this. Even now if I go back to the port without php4 support it doesn't work. :( -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396DE37B81A; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:49:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e463n5r29823; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:49:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 22:49:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: # FWIW, I've had a weird (perhaps related) problem, only in the # reverse. After creating a certificate (ie: 'make certificate' in # apache), I was unable to connect to the server from a Netscape # 4.72 browser. It only told me there was a decryption error in the # apache logs. I see the same thing in my apache error logs so it probably is related. Did you by chance try another browser and did it work? -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:53:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EC337B89F; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA28195; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Price Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Steve Price wrote: > Nope. I generated the key with 'make certificate' on the > apache13-php4 port. Here's what openssl says about the key. > > % openssl rsa -noout -text -in server.key | grep bit > Private-Key: (1024 bit) > % It sounds like somehting is broken with the certificate generation. I wonder if it could have to do with the fact that we currently don't install an openssl.cnf (my oversight, pointed out by rwatson yesterday), since thats where openssl looks for parameters when generating keys. > I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't something that has changed > in the ports. My problems started when I pkg_delete'd the > apache13-modssl port to install the apach13-php4 port with modssl > support so that I could play around with php4. It worked before > I did this. Even now if I go back to the port without php4 > support it doesn't work. :( How long ago was the previous port built? Do you still have the openssl port installed, if it was built against that? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 20:54:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from drama.navipath.com (drama.navipath.com [216.67.14.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB3837B606; Fri, 5 May 2000 20:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@drama.navipath.com) Received: (from forrie@localhost) by drama.navipath.com with id e463sl120502; Fri, 5 May 2000 23:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:54:47 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich To: Steve Price Cc: Kris Kennaway , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems Message-ID: <20000505235447.H13732@drama.navipath.com> References: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from sprice@hiwaay.net on Fri, May 05, 2000 at 10:49:04PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Duh :) It didn't occur to me to try another browser: Okay, I just did, using MS Explorer 5 and it worked with no problems. So, this is related to Netscape-4.72. But is it a bug on their part, or something else? Forrest On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 10:49:04PM -0500, Steve Price wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > > # FWIW, I've had a weird (perhaps related) problem, only in the > # reverse. After creating a certificate (ie: 'make certificate' in > # apache), I was unable to connect to the server from a Netscape > # 4.72 browser. It only told me there was a decryption error in the > # apache logs. > > I see the same thing in my apache error logs so it probably > is related. Did you by chance try another browser and did > it work? > > -steve > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 21: 2:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3EB37B9DA; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA28790; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 21:02:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: Steve Price , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <20000505235447.H13732@drama.navipath.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > Okay, I just did, using MS Explorer 5 and it worked with no problems. > So, this is related to Netscape-4.72. But is it a bug on their part, > or something else? I'm suspecting it might be something missing in the ASN.1 encoding of the certificate, which netscape requires but IE permits. This would be consistent with a missing openssl.cnf file at the time of certificate generation. Could one of you try copying the openssl.cnf file from crypto/openssl/apps/ to /etc/ssl (editing as appropriate) and see if that fixes it (i.e. make a new certificate and test it in the same way)? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 21:38:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F0737B877; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:38:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e464ckm26135; Fri, 5 May 2000 23:38:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:38:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # I'm suspecting it might be something missing in the ASN.1 encoding of the # certificate, which netscape requires but IE permits. This would be # consistent with a missing openssl.cnf file at the time of certificate # generation. Could one of you try copying the openssl.cnf file from # crypto/openssl/apps/ to /etc/ssl (editing as appropriate) and see if that # fixes it (i.e. make a new certificate and test it in the same way)? It didn't help here. I rebuilt the port and re-installed from a clean WRKDIR and I get the same error message. If I do a 'make certificate', copy those files over, and try to start apache it just hangs definitely until I ^C it. After I kill it I see this in the apache error logs. [error] mod_ssl: Init: Private key not found (OpenSSL library error follows) [error] OpenSSL: error:0D06B078:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_get_object: header too long Methinks it has something to do with key generation as well, but I'll be darned if I know what. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 21:41:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A9437B69E; Fri, 5 May 2000 21:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e464fYW29575; Fri, 5 May 2000 23:41:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:41:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Kris Kennaway Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # How long ago was the previous port built? From the best I can remember it was sometime early to middle of March. # Do you still have the openssl # port installed, if it was built against that? Nope. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 22: 5:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6612A37B877; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA34737; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 22:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Price Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Steve Price wrote: > It didn't help here. I rebuilt the port and re-installed from > a clean WRKDIR and I get the same error message. If I do a > 'make certificate', copy those files over, and try to start > apache it just hangs definitely until I ^C it. After I kill > it I see this in the apache error logs. It's not clear that you installed the openssl.cnf file before making the cert - can you confirm? Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 22: 9:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D946837BD7A; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e4659KW07043; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:09:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: # It's not clear that you installed the openssl.cnf file before making the # cert - can you confirm? Yes I did. I put it in /etc/ssl as you suggested. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 5 22:22: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4614C37B8FF; Fri, 5 May 2000 22:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09239; Sat, 6 May 2000 00:22:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:22:03 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Jean-Marc Zucconi Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can someone explain this? Message-ID: <20000506002203.A6363@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200005060030.RAA11795@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.14i In-Reply-To: <200005060030.RAA11795@freefall.freebsd.org>; from "Jean-Marc Zucconi" on Fri May 5 17:30:52 GMT 2000 X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (May 05), Jean-Marc Zucconi said: > Here is something I don't understand: > > $ sh -c '/usr/bin/time ./a.out' > 2.40 real 2.38 user 0.01 sys > $ /usr/bin/time ./a.out > 7.19 real 7.19 user 0.00 sys > > The same program is 3 times slower in the second case. The effect is > systematic but depends on the program being run. I have seen inverse > behavior with another program. Using time -l, I note that this seems > to be related with a higher value of 'involuntary context switches' > (3 times more switches in the slower case). It has to do with your stack. Calling the program via /bin/sh sets up your environment differently, so your program's stack starts at a different place. Try running this: main (int argc, char **argv) { int i; double x=2, y=2, z=2; printf ("%p\n",&i); for (i = 0; i < 10000000; i++) z = y*x; return 0; } Run this commandline: STR= ; export STR ; while : ; do ; STR=z$STR ; /usr/bin/time ./a,out ; done And watch your execution time flip flop every 4 runs. Here are some bits from the gcc infopage explaining your options if you want consistant speed from programs using doubles: `-mpreferred-stack-boundary=NUM' Attempt to keep the stack boundary aligned to a 2 raised to NUM byte boundary. If `-mpreferred-stack-boundary' is not specified, the default is 4 (16 bytes or 128 bits). The stack is required to be aligned on a 4 byte boundary. On Pentium and PentiumPro, `double' and `long double' values should be aligned to an 8 byte boundary (see `-malign-double') or suffer significant run time performance penalties. On Pentium III, the Streaming SIMD Extention (SSE) data type `__m128' suffers similar penalties if it is not 16 byte aligned. `-mno-align-double' Control whether GCC aligns `double', `long double', and `long long' variables on a two word boundary or a one word boundary. Aligning `double' variables on a two word boundary will produce code that runs somewhat faster on a `Pentium' at the expense of more memory. *Warning:* if you use the `-malign-double' switch, structures containing the above types will be aligned differently than the published application binary interface specifications for the 386. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 1:34:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E98E37B784; Sat, 6 May 2000 01:34:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega.vega.com (dialup2-3.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.226.67]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21762; Sat, 6 May 2000 11:34:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA59344; Sat, 6 May 2000 11:32:07 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <3913D862.960037A1@altavista.net> Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 11:31:30 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Small MAKEDEV bug Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090F0C2492AC7357711ED90A" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090F0C2492AC7357711ED90A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've just noticed that "sh MAKEDEV acd1" doesn't produce node for acd1 due to incorrect comparasion in the "while" loop. This affecting both 4.0-STABLE and 5.0-CURRENT. With this message I'm attaching short patch which should solve this little problem. -Maxim --------------090F0C2492AC7357711ED90A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r; name="MAKEDEV.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MAKEDEV.diff" --- MAKEDEV 2000/05/06 08:25:52 1.1 +++ MAKEDEV 2000/05/06 08:26:14 @@ -795,7 +795,7 @@ fi if [ "${units}" -le 31 ]; then i=0 - while [ $i -lt $units ]; do + while [ $i -le $units ]; do dname=$name$i rm -rf ${dname}* r${dname}* mknod ${dname}a c $chr $(($i * 8)) root:operator --------------090F0C2492AC7357711ED90A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 7:26:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E73937B754; Sat, 6 May 2000 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA79459; Sat, 6 May 2000 16:24:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 16:24:52 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small MAKEDEV bug Message-ID: <20000506162452.B79195@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <3913D862.960037A1@altavista.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3913D862.960037A1@altavista.net>; from sobomax@altavista.net on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:31:30AM +0300 Organisation: VIA Net.Works The Netherlands Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000506 10:40], Maxim Sobolev (sobomax@altavista.net) wrote: >- while [ $i -lt $units ]; do >+ while [ $i -le $units ]; do Tested and committed to both CURRENT and 4-STABLE. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA Net.Works The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.via-net-works.nl We must all hang together, else we shall all hang separately... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 10:39:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1E837B61B; Sat, 6 May 2000 10:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA79358; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:39:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200005061739.NAA79358@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Steve Price Cc: Kris Kennaway , Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 May 2000 00:09:20 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 13:39:25 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, 5 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > # It's not clear that you installed the openssl.cnf file before making the > # cert - can you confirm? > > Yes I did. I put it in /etc/ssl as you suggested. Just curious, but is there any documentation installed that describes what the contents of the file look like? I went on a hunt for this recently, and found precious little documentation on openssl provided with the system. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 12:54: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BC637B7DB; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA03211; Sun, 7 May 2000 05:53:43 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 05:53:41 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small MAKEDEV bug In-Reply-To: <3913D862.960037A1@altavista.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > I've just noticed that "sh MAKEDEV acd1" doesn't produce node for acd1 due to > incorrect comparasion in the "while" loop. This affecting both 4.0-STABLE and > 5.0-CURRENT. With this message I'm attaching short patch which should solve > this little problem. This is the intended behaviour. "sh MAKEDEV acdN" is supposed to create N acd devices, numbered from 0 to N-1. This broken behaviour was introduced for cd*, mcd* and scd* in rev.1.171. It has since spread to acd*. Other types of disks are handled correctly. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 12:58:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0F737BD22; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (02-134.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.195.134]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA55578; Sat, 6 May 2000 12:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DAE11918; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 15:57:49 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: FreeBSD Ports Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: rc.d startup scripts Message-ID: <20000506155749.K55274@argon.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've noticed an inconsistency among our ports. It seems that not every port that installs rc.d startup scripts includes methods to not only startup, but also shutdown and/or restart, where appropriate. (Sent to -ports for ports hackers' opinions.) Shouldn't this sort of thing be standardized? And maybe a similar method be integrated into /etc/rc for restarting base system daemons? (Sent to -current for src hackers' opinions.) Please continue specific discussion on either of these in their own list, or if reply is general Cc both. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 13:17:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1AE37B850; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04202; Sat, 6 May 2000 16:15:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 16:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Will Andrews Cc: FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: rc.d startup scripts In-Reply-To: <20000506155749.K55274@argon.blackdawn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Will Andrews wrote: >Hello, > >I've noticed an inconsistency among our ports. It seems that not every port >that installs rc.d startup scripts includes methods to not only startup, >but also shutdown and/or restart, where appropriate. (Sent to -ports for >ports hackers' opinions.) You have answered your own question. What exists in ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d are startup scripts, *not* shutdown or restart scripts. >Shouldn't this sort of thing be standardized? And maybe a similar method be >integrated into /etc/rc for restarting base system daemons? (Sent to >-current for src hackers' opinions.) You mean our init system should look like RedHat's? The OS is named Free_BSD_ because we use not only the source code from the BSD team at UCB, but because we practice their OS philosophy as closely as is still relevant to the industry. We use BSD init, not SVR4, and I don't see any reason for that to be altered. BTW, I don't read -ports. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix@looksharp.net Illegitimi non carborundum. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 13:22:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5038F37B7DB; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA04095; Sun, 7 May 2000 06:22:22 +1000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 06:22:20 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Dan Nelson Cc: Jean-Marc Zucconi , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can someone explain this? In-Reply-To: <20000506002203.A6363@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (May 05), Jean-Marc Zucconi said: > > Here is something I don't understand: > > > > $ sh -c '/usr/bin/time ./a.out' > > 2.40 real 2.38 user 0.01 sys > > $ /usr/bin/time ./a.out > > 7.19 real 7.19 user 0.00 sys > It has to do with your stack. Calling the program via /bin/sh sets up > your environment differently, so your program's stack starts at a > different place. Try running this: > Here are some bits from the gcc infopage explaining your options if you > want consistant speed from programs using doubles: > > `-mpreferred-stack-boundary=NUM' > Attempt to keep the stack boundary aligned to a 2 raised to NUM > byte boundary. If `-mpreferred-stack-boundary' is not specified, > the default is 4 (16 bytes or 128 bits). > The stack is required to be aligned on a 4 byte boundary. On > Pentium and PentiumPro, `double' and `long double' values should be > aligned to an 8 byte boundary (see `-malign-double') or suffer > significant run time performance penalties. On Pentium III, the > Streaming SIMD Extention (SSE) data type `__m128' suffers similar > penalties if it is not 16 byte aligned. The default of 4 for -mpreferred-stack-boundary perfectly preserves any initial misaligment of the stack. Under FreeBSD the stack is initially misaligned (for doubles) with a probability of 1/2. There was some discussion of fixing this when gcc-2.95 was imported, but nothing was committed. I use the following local hack: diff -c2 kern_exec.c~ kern_exec.c *** kern_exec.c~ Mon May 1 15:56:40 2000 --- kern_exec.c Mon May 1 15:56:42 2000 *************** *** 627,630 **** --- 647,659 ---- vectp = (char **) (destp - (imgp->argc + imgp->envc + 2) * sizeof(char*)); + + /* + * Align stack to a multiple of 0x20. + * XXX vectp has the wrong type; we usually want a vm_offset_t; + * the suword() family takes a void *, but should take a vm_offset_t. + * XXX should align stack for signals too. + * XXX should do this more machine/compiler-independently. + */ + vectp = (char **)(((vm_offset_t)vectp & ~(vm_offset_t)0x1F) - 4); /* Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 13:57:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shrewd.knigma.org (host213-1-61-13.btinternet.com [213.1.61.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F2137BCF1 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 13:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markk@knigma.org) Received: from lap.knigma.org (lap.knigma.org [212.126.140.18]) by shrewd.knigma.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00702 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 21:56:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from markk@knigma.org) Message-ID: <8KD+IKAOcIF5Ewzp@knigma.org> Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:56:46 +0100 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Mark Knight Subject: Odd console problem MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.00 U Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Under VMware 2... Under world and kernel of yesterday, between the sio1 and sbc0 kernel messages during console boot, various character cease to appear on the screen. (e.g. r, t, u & s). All virtual consoles appear completely unable to display these characters. Otherwise the systems appears sane. Booting an old April 20th Kernel is fine. Any ideas please, before I get in too deep...? -- Mark Knight PGP Public Key: finger mkn@knigma.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 14:11:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (hermes.dialup.ru [194.87.16.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1603237B8FC for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00255 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 01:11:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 01:11:23 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: TCP becomes very broken just now Message-ID: <20000507011123.A242@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some of recent kernel TCP changes cause TCP completely not working, i.e. any network daemon (mountd, sendmail, cfsd) started from "rc" on dialup machine hangs with 3min "Can't connect' timeout and user level "ppp" started than hangs forever even not dialing. Please fix. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 14:20:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1561837BC26; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15438; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 14:20:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Steve Price , Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <200005061739.NAA79358@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > Just curious, but is there any documentation installed that describes > what the contents of the file look like? I went on a hunt for this > recently, and found precious little documentation on openssl provided > with the system. The sample file is in /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/openssl.cnf - thats about all there is in the way for documentation about that file. As I noted in another response, OpenSSL manpages exist in crypto/openssl/docs/{crypto,ssl} but we don't install them yet because they conflict with system manpages and I'm waiting for the OpenSSL team to fix them. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 14:49: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A9A37B911; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA18135; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 14:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005062148.OAA18135@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: jmz set sender to jmz@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: dnelson@emsphone.com Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20000506002203.A6363@dan.emsphone.com> (message from Dan Nelson on Sat, 6 May 2000 00:22:03 -0500) Subject: Re: Can someone explain this? X-Mailer: Emacs References: <200005060030.RAA11795@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000506002203.A6363@dan.emsphone.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> Dan Nelson writes: > In the last episode (May 05), Jean-Marc Zucconi said: >> Here is something I don't understand: >> >> $ sh -c '/usr/bin/time ./a.out' >> 2.40 real 2.38 user 0.01 sys >> $ /usr/bin/time ./a.out >> 7.19 real 7.19 user 0.00 sys >> >> The same program is 3 times slower in the second case. The effect is >> systematic but depends on the program being run. I have seen inverse >> behavior with another program. Using time -l, I note that this seems >> to be related with a higher value of 'involuntary context switches' >> (3 times more switches in the slower case). > It has to do with your stack. Calling the program via /bin/sh sets up > your environment differently, so your program's stack starts at a > different place. Try running this: > main (int argc, char **argv) > { > int i; > double x=2, y=2, z=2; > printf ("%p\n",&i); > for (i = 0; i < 10000000; i++) z = y*x; > return 0; > } > Run this commandline: > STR= ; export STR ; while : ; do ; STR=z$STR ; /usr/bin/time ./a,out ; done > And watch your execution time flip flop every 4 runs. OK. The effect is indeed very clear. > Here are some bits from the gcc infopage explaining your options if you > want consistant speed from programs using doubles: > `-mpreferred-stack-boundary=NUM' > Attempt to keep the stack boundary aligned to a 2 raised to NUM > byte boundary. If `-mpreferred-stack-boundary' is not specified, > the default is 4 (16 bytes or 128 bits). > The stack is required to be aligned on a 4 byte boundary. On > Pentium and PentiumPro, `double' and `long double' values should be > aligned to an 8 byte boundary (see `-malign-double') or suffer > significant run time performance penalties. On Pentium III, the > Streaming SIMD Extention (SSE) data type `__m128' suffers similar > penalties if it is not 16 byte aligned. > `-mno-align-double' > Control whether GCC aligns `double', `long double', and `long > long' variables on a two word boundary or a one word boundary. > Aligning `double' variables on a two word boundary will produce > code that runs somewhat faster on a `Pentium' at the expense of > more memory. > *Warning:* if you use the `-malign-double' switch, structures > containing the above types will be aligned differently than the > published application binary interface specifications for the 386. Now the problem is that the -mpreferred-stack-boundary=NUM option does not solve the problem :-( I still get a penalty in 50% of the cases. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 14:53:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ada.eu.org (marvin.enst.fr [137.194.161.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAE137B94C for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 14:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@inf.enst.fr) Received: from trillian.enst.fr (antinea.enst.fr [137.194.160.145]) by ada.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3E4190E2; Sat, 6 May 2000 23:53:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: by trillian.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02DF3124; Sat, 6 May 2000 23:53:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 23:53:23 +0200 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP becomes very broken just now References: <20000507011123.A242@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000507011123.A242@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 01:11:23AM +0400 From: Samuel Tardieu Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications Reply-To: Samuel Tardieu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-WWW: http://www.inf.enst.fr/~tardieu/ X-Mail-Processing: Sam's procmail tools X-ICQ: 21547599 Message-Id: <2000-05-06-23-53-23+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7/05, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: | Some of recent kernel TCP changes cause TCP completely not working, | i.e. any network daemon (mountd, sendmail, cfsd) started from "rc" on | dialup machine hangs with 3min "Can't connect' timeout and user level | "ppp" started than hangs forever even not dialing. Please fix. Are you sure you're not using a very strict filter (deny all)? This would explain everything you describe :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 15: 8: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B16937BCB6; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:07:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA19385; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 15:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200005062207.PAA19385@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: jmz set sender to jmz@FreeBSD.org using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: bde@zeta.org.au Cc: dnelson@emsphone.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Bruce Evans on Sun, 7 May 2000 06:22:20 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Can someone explain this? X-Mailer: Emacs References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> Bruce Evans writes: > The default of 4 for -mpreferred-stack-boundary perfectly preserves > any initial misaligment of the stack. Under FreeBSD the stack is > initially misaligned (for doubles) with a probability of 1/2. There > was some discussion of fixing this when gcc-2.95 was imported, but > nothing was committed. I use the following local hack: > diff -c2 kern_exec.c~ kern_exec.c > *** kern_exec.c~ Mon May 1 15:56:40 2000 > --- kern_exec.c Mon May 1 15:56:42 2000 > *************** > *** 627,630 **** > --- 647,659 ---- > vectp = (char **) > (destp - (imgp->argc + imgp->envc + 2) * sizeof(char*)); > + > + /* > + * Align stack to a multiple of 0x20. > + * XXX vectp has the wrong type; we usually want a vm_offset_t; > + * the suword() family takes a void *, but should take a vm_offset_t. > + * XXX should align stack for signals too. > + * XXX should do this more machine/compiler-independently. > + */ > + vectp = (char **)(((vm_offset_t)vectp & ~(vm_offset_t)0x1F) - 4); > /* Any chance that your fix be committed? :-) The impact of misalignments on performance is considerable. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 15:19:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CA937BA45 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bminazzi@denverweb.net) Received: from denverweb.net (rc-pm3-1-41.enetis.net [208.141.217.232]) by denverweb.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16886 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 16:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <39148DD4.48CF75AB@denverweb.net> Date: Sat, 06 May 2000 21:25:40 +0000 From: blaine minazzi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 15:24: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 8192837B9C6; Sat, 6 May 2000 15:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 15:23:56 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Samuel Tardieu Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP becomes very broken just now Message-ID: <20000506152356.A55109@freebsd.org> References: <20000507011123.A242@nagual.pp.ru> <2000-05-06-23-53-23+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <2000-05-06-23-53-23+trackit+sam@inf.enst.fr>; from sam@inf.enst.fr on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:53:23PM +0200 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 11:53:23PM +0200, Samuel Tardieu wrote: > On 7/05, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > | Some of recent kernel TCP changes cause TCP completely not working, > | i.e. any network daemon (mountd, sendmail, cfsd) started from "rc" on > | dialup machine hangs with 3min "Can't connect' timeout and user level > | "ppp" started than hangs forever even not dialing. Please fix. > > Are you sure you're not using a very strict filter (deny all)? This would > explain everything you describe :) Yes, I use firewall, but with OPEN type at the "rc" stage, so "allow all" first. The same setup works today with kernel builded few hours before recent TCP changes. Nothing changed on my side excepting kernel and modules rebuilded from recent cvsup. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 16:14:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0D337B73E; Sat, 6 May 2000 16:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (02-134.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.195.134]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA57868; Sat, 6 May 2000 16:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8DC591918; Sat, 6 May 2000 19:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 19:14:01 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Will Andrews , FreeBSD Ports , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: rc.d startup scripts Message-ID: <20000506191401.A56777@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <20000506155749.K55274@argon.blackdawn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bandix@looksharp.net on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:15:33PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 04:15:33PM -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > You have answered your own question. What exists in ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.d > are startup scripts, *not* shutdown or restart scripts. Okay, then you think that all the ports rc.d *.sh scripts should be changed only to allow startup, right? > You mean our init system should look like RedHat's? The OS is named > Free_BSD_ because we use not only the source code from the BSD team at > UCB, but because we practice their OS philosophy as closely as is still > relevant to the industry. We use BSD init, not SVR4, and I don't see > any reason for that to be altered. Fine, you can quote historical context to argue against doing something similar to SVR4 init. I, however, see nothing wrong with making it easier to manage the daemons. Of course, that does not necessarily need to go in the rc.d scripts. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 18:11:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34D437B57A for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 18:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA96862; Sat, 6 May 2000 21:11:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200005070111.VAA96862@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> References: <20000505231642.F13732@drama.navipath.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > FWIW, I've had a weird (perhaps related) problem, only in the > reverse. After creating a certificate (ie: 'make certificate' in > apache), I was unable to connect to the server from a Netscape > 4.72 browser. It only told me there was a decryption error in the > apache logs. I've had this problem with recent values of OpenSSL since last November. I haven't gotten around to playing with permutations of the openssl.cnf file yet. I tried my site certificate on various versions of Netscape and Exploder, and all of them failed in a similar manner, but `openssl s_client' worked just fine, and all the other clients failed identically against `openssl s_server'. I sent a note about this to the OpenSSL mailing-list, and did not receive a single relevant response. (I guess they're not used to people who run their own certificate authorities.) [This is one of the areas in which my job requires me to play with stuff which I would not use myself for programming-freedom reasons. At least we don't have to pay Jim Bidzos for the privilege....] -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 18:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F3137B8CB for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e471iiG06079; Sat, 6 May 2000 20:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 20:44:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <200005070111.VAA96862@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: # I've had this problem with recent values of OpenSSL since last # November. I haven't gotten around to playing with permutations of the # openssl.cnf file yet. I tried my site certificate on various versions # of Netscape and Exploder, and all of them failed in a similar manner, # but `openssl s_client' worked just fine, and all the other clients # failed identically against `openssl s_server'. I sent a note about # this to the OpenSSL mailing-list, and did not receive a single # relevant response. So what do you use as a workaround? The openssl port? The old SSLeay port? Would using DSA instead of RSA make matters better? -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 20: 3:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE9B37B97A; Sat, 6 May 2000 20:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA41958; Sat, 6 May 2000 20:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 20:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: <200005070111.VAA96862@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > I've had this problem with recent values of OpenSSL since last > November. I haven't gotten around to playing with permutations of the I'm strongly suspecting something wrong with the encoding of the certificate. Can you grab dumpasn1.c and dumpasn1.cfg from http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/dumpasn1.c and http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/dumpasn1.cfg and run it on the old and new certificates to see if anything is different? To convert the Cert to DER: openssl asn1parse -in file.pem -out file.der Then: dumpasn1 file.der Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 21:50:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B84D37B6BC; Sat, 6 May 2000 21:50:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA49541; Sat, 6 May 2000 21:50:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 21:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Forrest Aldrich , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA decrypt problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/dumpasn1.c > and http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/dumpasn1.cfg I've made these into a port, so you can just install the converters/dumpasn1 port and save the minor trouble of editing the stupid ^Z out of the .c file and compiling it :-) Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 22:39:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C67437B67D for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 22:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from altavista.net (dialup4-10.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.226.202]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10767; Sun, 7 May 2000 08:39:45 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <39150252.1BCB4EBE@altavista.net> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 08:42:42 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Home, sweet home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small MAKEDEV bug References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bruce Evans wrote: > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > I've just noticed that "sh MAKEDEV acd1" doesn't produce node for acd1 due to > > incorrect comparasion in the "while" loop. This affecting both 4.0-STABLE and > > 5.0-CURRENT. With this message I'm attaching short patch which should solve > > this little problem. > > This is the intended behaviour. "sh MAKEDEV acdN" is supposed to create > N acd devices, numbered from 0 to N-1. This broken behaviour was introduced > for cd*, mcd* and scd* in rev.1.171. It has since spread to acd*. Other > types of disks are handled correctly. How broken behaviour could be "intended"? It is unclear why *cd* devices should be different from all others types of disk devices. Users usually being confused when dealing with special cases like that. I think that there will be no problem if it would create N+1 devices at least until someone will reimplement it correctly. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat May 6 23:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7BC37B69F for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 23:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA59349 for ; Sat, 6 May 2000 23:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 23:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: current@freebsd.org Subject: OpenSSH SSH2 support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've finished merging the latest OpenSSH changes into our version (vice versa, actually) since I'm told it's stabilized enough to be useful. OpenSSH now has SSH2 protocol support, meaning several things: * Support for DSA keys, removing the need to use RSA (and hence RSAREF), so people in commercial environments in the US can now use it, and can use >1024 bit keys * Interoperability with at least some other SSH2 clients/servers (I don't know how extensive yet, but I can log in using both the ssh and ssh2 ports) * More secure protocol than the SSH1 protocol. Unfortunately, there is no support for Kerberos 4 or OPIE (or Kerb5) in SSH2 mode yet - hopefully these will be added soon. Because of the extensive changes to the code since the version we currently have, it was quite difficult to merge in all of our local fixes - I think I've done it correctly, but can't be sure (I have no way to test Kerberos support, for example). I'm going to try and get some of these merged back upstream to make my life easier in the future. I haven't yet updated the manpages, so the instructions below will install the OpenBSD ones. Another side-effect of this patch is that it enables OPIE login support. I would like everyone who is able to to test this to make sure it still works for them (as well as testing the new features) - if you don't test it now and it breaks when I import it and you go and install it on all of your boxes, tough! Test it now! :-) Installation instructions: 1) Grab http://www.freebsd.org/~kris/ssh2.tgz and unpack it in /usr/src 2) Apply the patch which was just unpacked into /usr/src/openssh.diff 3) make world 4) To set up sshd to do SSH2, see the docs in crypto/openssh/README.openssh2 Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message