From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 0:38:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E1337B5DC; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA62954; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:38:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA09723; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:36:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006250736.BAA09723@harmony.village.org> To: Assar Westerlund Subject: Re: vnode_if.h: how should it be done ? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, kris@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "25 Jun 2000 01:57:20 +0200." <5lwvjetyxr.fsf@assaris.sics.se> References: <5lwvjetyxr.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <5llmzyqsfm.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <5ln1kesdkq.fsf@assaris.sics.se> <200006220345.XAA42447@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200006240610.AAA01831@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:36:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5lwvjetyxr.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Assar Westerlund writes: : Warner Losh writes: : > In message <5llmzyqsfm.fsf@assaris.sics.se> Assar Westerlund writes: : > : The problem is that the source files are hidden in the kernel source : > : directory and not installed. Where should vnode_if.{src,pl} get : > : installed? It seems much simpler just to install vnode_if.h in : > : /usr/include/sys. Patch appended. : > : > No. : : > We don't install kenrel internal files. : : But it's not kernel internal. It's used by modules/KLDs ? Where : should these expect to find it? '.' : > Use SYSDIR instead. : : I'm not sure what you mean by this? Should vnode_if.h just reside in : /sys/sys and be used from there or what? No. I mean that you need to have a kernel in $SYSDIR (or in /sys or /usr/src) and that vnode_if.h will get built in '.'. : > : + ${INSTALL} -C -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 444 \ : > : + ${.OBJDIR}/vnode_if.h \ : > : + ${DESTDIR}/usr/include/sys : > : > I object to this part of the patch. We shouldn't install this file. : > It isn't needed by anything outside of the kernel/drivers. : : Well, depends on your point of view if that's outside kernel/drivers, : but it's sure used by modules/KLDs. No. That's part of the kernel, for the purposes of this discussion. It isn't used by userland at all. It should be build by the kld system, and if it isn't, then it is a bug. Go look at sys/modules/msdos/Makefile for an example of how it is supposed to work. : > For drivers, it should be built automatically as part of the modules : > build system ala the *_if.m stuff. : : Where are these files installed so that they can be used by : third-party KLDs? They aren't installed. You must have a kernel tree to build the kld. Just add vnode_if.h to your SRCS and the rest happens automatically via bsd.kmod.mk. It works great. I do it all the time. In fact, I added SYSDIR support to bsd.kmod.mk at Timing Solutions so that we could compile our drivers outside of the tree. There are lots of generated files like this that aren't installed, nor should they be. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 1:27:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED59F37BAD4 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:27:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p24-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.25]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id RAA24888; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:26:43 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3955C270.92B42C6B@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:27:28 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... References: <20000613231829.2F4BF1CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20000624183247.A9232@mppsystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Pritchard wrote: > > I just noticed that this change has now made a lot of the section 4 > man pages out of date. > > What is the best way to represent these changes in the man pages? > A good example is ata(4). Currently it reads like this: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > > Should this become: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata > hint.ata.0.at="isa" > hint.ata.0.port="0x1F0" > hint.ata.0.irq="14" > hint.ata.1.at="isa" > hint.ata.1.port="0x170" > > Or some much mess? When will the hints file syntax be nailed down, > so that someone can go in and fix all the man pages without having > to worry about having to go through and do it all again when the > syntax changes? > > Something in the loader man pages should be updated to provide info > on the new hints stuff. Having a man page dedicated to describing the > hints stuff probably would also be a good idea to make it easy for people > to figure out how it works. This definitely needs some work. I'm not sure the hints syntax will change much, if at all. OTOH, I don't know how to approach this. In other words, suggestions (and specially patches) are welcome. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org Windows works, for sufficently small values of "works". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 2:45:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bastard.co.uk (node16292.a2000.nl [24.132.98.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E2C37B933; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 02:45:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@bastard.co.uk) Received: from adrian by mail.bastard.co.uk with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1368yZ-000Byl-00; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:45:15 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:45:15 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd To: Kirk McKusick Cc: Stefan Esser , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c Message-ID: <20000625114515.M36017@zoe.bastard.co.uk> References: <20000622115426.H29036@zoe.bastard.co.uk> <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006241900.MAA04365@beastie.mckusick.com>; from mckusick@mckusick.com on Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 12:00:26PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 24, 2000, Kirk McKusick wrote: [snip] > Kirk, do you still want to keep things that way ? > > Adrian > > Yes, I do want it kept as a yunefs option. [snip] > Your above proposal would work, though that is not how NetBSD > implemented it. I feel that it is a lot of extra mechanism for very > little gain. Administrators generally make a one-time decision to > run soft updates on a filesystem. It is not the sort of thing that > they want to change on a regular basis. It is possible to run tunefs > on a filesystem that is mounted read-only, so it no more difficult > to use tunefs than it is to make it a mount-time option (i.e., they > still have to down-grade to read-only, set the option, then upgrade). > Finally, I expect that soft updates will eventually just be defaulted > to `on' when a filesystem is built, and in a few rare instances an > administrator will want to turn it off. I do not want to have an > option that needs to be added to nearly every fstab entry to get > the default behavior. Plus it is just one more bit of trivia that > new system administrators need to learn to make their systems run > well. The more of those details that need not be learned because > they just do the right thing, the better. There we go. If someone has a better argument against this, feel free to post it to the list. I'm calling this one dead. Thanks, Kirk. Adrian -- Adrian Chadd Build a man a fire, and he's warm for the rest of the evening. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 3:34:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76F537B636 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 03:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16350 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:35:12 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:35:12 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hola Mondo! The New /dev/random device is in but there are come caveats. 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! 2) If you do not have the randomdev module loaded, ssh will fail in strange and creative ways (like RSA or DH not working for strange reasons). 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf 4) Make sure that you update your /etc area (mergemaster is your friend). The rndcontrol(8) utility is now OBE, and no longer of relevance. You have been warned! M To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 8: 3:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C648537B5B4; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:03:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.1.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6FF9B2D; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:03:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bone.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA83D1DC6; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:03:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:03:34 -0500 From: "Jacques A . Vidrine" To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000625100334.C16657@bone.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A . Vidrine" , Mark Murray , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org References: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using > CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! I guess it follows that it is not a good idea to generate keys or certificates on -CURRENT for a while (until entropy comes back to town)? I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy and which gather their own. If so, I think this needs an UPDATING entry, particularly since the symptoms could outlive the cause. i.e. something to the effect of ``Keys and certificates generated on -CURRENT on or after m/d/y should not be used'' and updated again when the entropy is again available. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 8:14: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3526A37B549; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17563; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:12:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Jacques A . Vidrine" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <20000625100334.C16657@bone.nectar.com> In-Reply-To: <20000625100334.C16657@bone.nectar.com> ; from "Jacques A . Vidrine" "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:03:34 EST." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:12:50 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I guess it follows that it is not a good idea to generate keys or > certificates on -CURRENT for a while (until entropy comes back to town)? Correct if they rely on /dev/random for entropy. > I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy > and which gather their own. Right. > If so, I think this needs an UPDATING entry, particularly since the > symptoms could outlive the cause. i.e. something to the effect of > ``Keys and certificates generated on -CURRENT on or after m/d/y should > not be used'' and updated again when the entropy is again available. Agreed. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 8:49:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9A937B66C for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:49:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA76017; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:48:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251548.RAA76017@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 12:35:12 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > Hola Mondo! > > The New /dev/random device is in but there are come caveats. > > 1) It is not yet cryptographically secure, so those of you using > CURRENT for "live" projects, please be careful! > > 2) If you do not have the randomdev module loaded, ssh will > fail in strange and creative ways (like RSA or DH not working > for strange reasons). > > 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you > either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel > config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf > > 4) Make sure that you update your /etc area (mergemaster is your > friend). The rndcontrol(8) utility is now OBE, and no longer of > relevance. > > You have been warned! Uhm, what about this: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:45: crypto/blowfish/blowfish.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:47: yarrow.h: No such file or directory ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: invalid use of undefined type `struct state' ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: initializer element is not constant ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_random_yarrow_gengateinterval.oid_arg1') *** Error code 1 -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 9:46: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCD737B5B1 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17837; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:41:38 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251641.SAA17837@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251548.RAA76017@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251548.RAA76017@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:48:03 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:41:38 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. M > Uhm, what about this: > > > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_g lobal.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:45: crypto/blowfish/blowfish.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:47: yarrow.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: invalid use of undefined type `struct sta te' > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: initializer element is not constant > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_r andom_yarrow_gengateinterval.oid_arg1') > *** Error code 1 > > -Søren > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 10:42:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFFD37B737 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA03113; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:42:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251742.TAA03113@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251641.SAA17837@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 06:41:38 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:42:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. Well, I thought that was obvious :) Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make.... > > cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions > -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_g > lobal.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c > > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:45: crypto/blowfish/blowfish.h: No such file > or directory > > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:47: yarrow.h: No such file or directory > > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: invalid use of undefined type `struct sta > te' > > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: initializer element is not constant > > ../../dev/randomdev/randomdev.c:85: (near initialization for `sysctl___kern_r > andom_yarrow_gengateinterval.oid_arg1') > > *** Error code 1 -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:22:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645E037B5F3 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18174; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:20:56 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251820.UAA18174@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251742.TAA03113@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251742.TAA03113@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:42:12 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:20:55 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. > > Well, I thought that was obvious :) Not really; folks do the darndest things. :-) > Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made > a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make.... Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:24:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEBD37BBA5 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA13798; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:24:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251824.UAA13798@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251820.UAA18174@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 08:20:55 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:24:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > > Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. > > > > Well, I thought that was obvious :) > > Not really; folks do the darndest things. :-) > > > Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made > > a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make.... > > Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? Nope, just figured that out myself :) Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:29:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DEB37BBBF for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userfm48.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.24.136] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 136H9m-00016e-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:29:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3956501C.75435934@alveley.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:31:56 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with nlist on -current? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I installed 5.0-20000621-CURRENT on a new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB RDRAM) and had problems with top / systat / vmstat all failing after reporting problems with nlist: When using top: top: nlist failed When using systat: systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: _ccpu _fscale When using vmstat: vmstat: undefined symbols: _kmemstatistics _bucket _zlist Later CVsup did not cure the issue. The problems happen regardless of the kernel used (original GENERIC, recompiled GENERIC, custom UP or custom MP) Any clues? PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:36:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3998937B856 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18223; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:35:23 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251835.UAA18223@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251824.UAA13798@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251824.UAA13798@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:24:31 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:35:23 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? > > Nope, just figured that out myself :) > Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:36:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EC937BCD0 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userfm48.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.24.136] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 136HGK-0001Jm-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:36:08 +0100 Message-ID: <395651B3.441FACFB@alveley.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:38:43 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies if this has already been reported, but `make world` is currently failing when trying to generate Config.pm for the newly imported Perl 5.6 (failure at line 20 of configpm) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 11:47:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A9F37B6BD for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA19793; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:47:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251847.UAA19793@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251835.UAA18223@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 08:35:23 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:47:20 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > > Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? > > > > Nope, just figured that out myself :) > > Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? > > I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. Hmm, we also have another rule, and that is to test before commit, the following patch is needed to make a current kernel with your resent commits compile :) Index: dev/randomdev//randomdev.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/randomdev/randomdev.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 randomdev.c --- dev/randomdev//randomdev.c 2000/06/25 08:38:58 1.1 +++ dev/randomdev//randomdev.c 2000/06/25 18:39:10 @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ #include #include -#include "yarrow.h" +#include "dev/randomdev/yarrow.h" static d_read_t randomread; static d_write_t randomwrite; Index: dev/randomdev//yarrow.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/randomdev/yarrow.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 yarrow.c --- dev/randomdev//yarrow.c 2000/06/25 08:38:58 1.1 +++ dev/randomdev//yarrow.c 2000/06/25 18:38:58 @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ #include #include -#include "yarrow.h" +#include "dev/randomdev/yarrow.h" void generator_gate(void); void reseed(void); Index: i386/i386//mem.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/mem.c,v retrieving revision 1.86 diff -u -r1.86 mem.c --- i386/i386//mem.c 2000/06/25 17:26:47 1.86 +++ i386/i386//mem.c 2000/06/25 18:42:13 @@ -217,10 +217,10 @@ /* minor device 1 is kernel memory */ case 1: return i386_btop(vtophys(offset)); - } default: return -1; + } } /* -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12: 3:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE23B37B5E5 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18325; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:00:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251900.VAA18325@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251847.UAA19793@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251847.UAA19793@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:47:20 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:00:06 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. > > Hmm, we also have another rule, and that is to test before commit, > the following patch is needed to make a current kernel with > your resent commits compile :) Fooey. :-( This is what you get from too-heavy testing in modules, and not-heavy-enough in LINT. Thanks! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12: 6:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A3B37B5E7 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA24737; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:06:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251906.VAA24737@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251900.VAA18325@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 09:00:06 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:06:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > > I'm not sure about that rule anymore; AFAIK, it is not possible. > > > > Hmm, we also have another rule, and that is to test before commit, > > the following patch is needed to make a current kernel with > > your resent commits compile :) > > Fooey. :-( > > This is what you get from too-heavy testing in modules, and > not-heavy-enough in LINT. He he :) remember the patch to i386/i386/mem.c as that is also broken, the default statement is best used _inside_ a switch :) That makes my kernel compile, but ssh doesn't work anymore, which might be due to world being broken due to your import of the latest ugliest perl version, it doesn't compile either :) Seems phk's extended Murphy field has found a new victim :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12:12:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CBF37B5E7 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA18378; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:12:19 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006251912.VAA18378@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251906.VAA24737@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251906.VAA24737@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:06:05 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:12:18 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > He he :) remember the patch to i386/i386/mem.c as that is also > broken, the default statement is best used _inside_ a switch :) Yeah - I got that :-). > That makes my kernel compile, but ssh doesn't work anymore, What are the symptoms? > which might be due to world being broken due to your import > of the latest ugliest perl version, it doesn't compile either :) Symptoms? > Seems phk's extended Murphy field has found a new victim :) Always, with a big commit. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12:30:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.az.home.com (ha1.rdc1.az.home.com [24.1.240.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D1C37B772 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@daffy.mics.net) Received: from daffy.mics.net ([24.15.53.199]) by mail.rdc1.az.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000625193035.KOOY12685.mail.rdc1.az.home.com@daffy.mics.net> for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:30:35 -0700 Received: by daffy.mics.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B13E4206A0; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:30:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:29:55 -0700 From: Matt Miller To: Keith Stevenson Cc: Mike Tancsa , Garrett Wollman , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fwd: WuFTPD: Providing *remote* root since at least1994 Message-ID: <20000623162955.A72949@daffy.mics.net> References: <4.2.2.20000622201823.0479a690@mail.sentex.net> <200006231713.NAA49665@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <3.0.5.32.20000623154848.02d2d6c0@marble.sentex.ca> <20000623163411.A1412@osaka.louisville.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000623163411.A1412@osaka.louisville.edu>; from k.stevenson@louisville.edu on Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 04:34:11PM -0400 X-My-Mood: Refreshed. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 04:34:11PM -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 03:48:48PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > What about > > > > --enable-paranoid > > > > as part of the config ? As so much seems to be related to the site exec > > command, perhaps its best to just disable this ? > > While I'm all for actually fixing the problems in the code, I've found that > the --enable-paranoid options to be a good one. I've been tinkering around > with the exploit and the paranoid option seems to defend against it. I don't > think that any of my users will miss the SITE EXEC commands. > If one were interested in improving the ftpd which ships with the base system, which features would make it a viable replacement those currently running wu-ftpd? Perhaps one- Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12:43:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC08F37B74B for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02528 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:43:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:43:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: current@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup/cvs oddities? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it all of a sudden wants to run off the Freefall ..... U usr.sbin/ypset/Makefile U usr.sbin/ypset/ypset.8 U usr.sbin/ypset/ypset.c cvs update: Updating usr.sbin/zic U usr.sbin/zic/Arts.htm U usr.sbin/zic/Makefile U usr.sbin/zic/Makefile.inc U usr.sbin/zic/README U usr.sbin/zic/Theory U usr.sbin/zic/WWW.htm U usr.sbin/zic/ialloc.c U usr.sbin/zic/private.h U usr.sbin/zic/scheck.c U usr.sbin/zic/zdump.8 U usr.sbin/zic/zdump.c U usr.sbin/zic/zic.8 U usr.sbin/zic/zic.c cvs update: Updating usr.sbin/zic/zdump U usr.sbin/zic/zdump/Makefile cvs update: Updating usr.sbin/zic/zic U usr.sbin/zic/zic/Makefile freefall.freebsd.org: Connection refused cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12:54:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FAB37B539 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA36755; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:54:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006251954.VAA36755@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251912.VAA18378@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 25, 2000 09:12:18 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:54:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > He he :) remember the patch to i386/i386/mem.c as that is also > > broken, the default statement is best used _inside_ a switch :) > > Yeah - I got that :-). And the one to yarrow.c ?? > > That makes my kernel compile, but ssh doesn't work anymore, > > What are the symptoms? It complains about libcrypto & libssl not containing RSA, but it might be because make world is broken due to perl... > > which might be due to world being broken due to your import > > of the latest ugliest perl version, it doesn't compile either :) > > Symptoms? cd /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Invalid conversion in sprintf: "%v" at /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. Use of uninitialized value at /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm: Config.pm not valid at /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. > > Seems phk's extended Murphy field has found a new victim :) > > Always, with a big commit. Nah, not if tested proberly :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 12:55:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1824C37B539; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04326; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Murray Cc: "Jacques A . Vidrine" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy > > and which gather their own. > > Right. SSH and SSL should not be used: PGP should be okay. I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an indeterminate period really bothers me. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13: 0:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9136937B64F; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA04788; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Matthew Jacob Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup/cvs oddities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always > falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the > local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it > all of a sudden wants to run off the Freefall ..... Check CVS/Root in that directory. If you do a remote cvs operation it sometimes likes to update the repository to point to freefall, which then screws up cvs update unless you specify "-d /home/ncvs". I have aliases lcvs and rcvs which explicitly state the -d to use (I think this advice came from the committer's guide) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BFC37BC16; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA04967; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251954.VAA36755@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It complains about libcrypto & libssl not containing RSA, but it > might be because make world is broken due to perl... This happens when a test RSA operation fails - but OpenSSH doesn't try to check why it fails and assumes it was because no RSA code even exists. It's probably more likely it's failing an internal check related to /dev/random (this is the signature which caused me to notice the missing /dev/random on alpha recently) Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13: 7:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9192E37BC28; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA64924; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:07:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA12782; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:05:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006252005.OAA12782@harmony.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:55:47 PDT." References: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:05:23 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Kris Kennaway writes: : I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I : was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do : everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an : indeterminate period really bothers me. Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13: 9:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C27B637BC28 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18697; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:08:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006252008.WAA18697@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006251954.VAA36755@freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <200006251954.VAA36755@freebsd.dk> ; from Soren Schmidt "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:54:10 +0200." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:08:02 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > And the one to yarrow.c ?? Done! > > What are the symptoms? > > It complains about libcrypto & libssl not containing RSA, but it > might be because make world is broken due to perl... That means the /dev/random driver is not loaded. /../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. > Use of uninitialized value at /u1/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../co ntrib/perl5/configpm line 432. Fix coming now... > > > Seems phk's extended Murphy field has found a new victim :) > > > > Always, with a big commit. > > Nah, not if tested proberly :) Dunno. There seems to be a limit on commit size, after which glitches are bound to come. I see my job as staying awake long enough to make things stable enough. :-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13:17:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C2E37B522; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:16:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18753; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:17:27 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006252017.WAA18753@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:55:47 MST." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:17:27 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I > was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do > everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an > indeterminate period really bothers me. 1) I whined for reviews for long enough. Where were you? 2) With the SMP "Destabilization" of the tree coming, I took the opportunity because a) Merging differences was going to get harder; and b) folk were already warned off the use off CURRENT for production purposes. 3) I fully recognise that this needs to be worked on; now that I have gotten rid of a lot of mess, I can give it my attention; the time is not "indeterminate", it is "work in progress" (Ya, Ya, semantics). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13:19: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C330A37BCBC; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18797; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:19:01 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006252019.WAA18797@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:02:12 MST." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:19:01 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It complains about libcrypto & libssl not containing RSA, but it > > might be because make world is broken due to perl... > > This happens when a test RSA operation fails - but OpenSSH doesn't try to > check why it fails and assumes it was because no RSA code even > exists. It's probably more likely it's failing an internal check related > to /dev/random (this is the signature which caused me to notice the > missing /dev/random on alpha recently) Looks like we (er, you! :-) ) have a job to do fixing this? ;-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13:21: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862A637B8CF for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18815; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:21:14 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006252021.WAA18815@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006252005.OAA12782@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: <200006252005.OAA12782@harmony.village.org> ; from Warner Losh "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:05:23 CST." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:21:14 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13:21:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFC337B8CF; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA07612; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006252017.WAA18753@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I > > was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do > > everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an > > indeterminate period really bothers me. > > 1) I whined for reviews for long enough. Where were you? Waiting until the code was complete and nominally commitworthy before spending time reviewing it. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 13:53:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF537B5BE; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02677; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:53:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Kris Kennaway Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup/cvs oddities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > Can anyone shed light on why a CVSUP'd dirtree I have now always > > falls down with the following error?... Because it's CVSUP'd, the > > local repository is just /home/ncvs (NFS mounted). I cannot figure out why it > > all of a sudden wants to run off the Freefall ..... > > Check CVS/Root in that directory. If you do a remote cvs operation it > sometimes likes to update the repository to point to freefall, which then > screws up cvs update unless you specify "-d /home/ncvs". I have aliases > lcvs and rcvs which explicitly state the -d to use (I think this advice > came from the committer's guide) Oops. Somehow I had a couple of bad CVS/Root files creep in. The odd thing is that they weren't anywhere &near& where things died. I had to use find/grep to hunt 'em down. Thanks.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 14:10:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com (c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com [24.14.126.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B121E37B839 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdharnois@home.com) Received: (from mdharnois@localhost) by c1030098-a.wtrlo1.ia.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20530; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:10:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mdharnois@home.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mharnois.workgroup.net: mdharnois set sender to mdharnois@home.com using -f To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: world dies in libperl From: Michael Harnois Date: 25 Jun 2000 16:10:33 -0500 Message-ID: <86wvjdxy9i.fsf@mharnois.workgroup.net> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.2 (Molpe) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Invalid conversion in sprintf: "%v" at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../. ./../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. Use of uninitialized value at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../cont rib/perl5/configpm line 432. /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm: Config.pm not valid at /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configp m line 432. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA mdharnois@home.com aa0bt@aa0bt.ampr.org Never, "for the sake of peace and quiet," deny your own experience or convictions. -- Dag Hammarskjold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 14:30:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2631437B839 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA65196; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:30:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA13214; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006252128.PAA13214@harmony.village.org> To: Mark Murray Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:21:14 +0200." <200006252021.WAA18815@grimreaper.grondar.za> References: <200006252021.WAA18815@grimreaper.grondar.za> <200006252005.OAA12782@harmony.village.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:28:54 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006252021.WAA18815@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mark Murray writes: : > Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? : : Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note in updating right now. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 14:39:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684637B9D7 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA19347; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:40:07 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006252140.XAA19347@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006252128.PAA13214@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: <200006252128.PAA13214@harmony.village.org> ; from Warner Losh "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:28:54 CST." Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:40:07 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message <200006252021.WAA18815@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mark Murray writes: > : > Yes. Me too. Mark, how long is this period going to be? > : > : Some days. Certainly a lot shorter that the SMP destabilization. > > Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. > Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note > in updating right now. Thanks! :-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 16:11: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889A937B599; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA27071; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006252128.PAA13214@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. > Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note > in updating right now. That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work machines for the next few days until entropy is fixed. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 19:52:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479E37B6C5 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA31018 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD-current Subject: Config problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am getting a config error with the new gethints.pl stuff: unrecognized config token 1 This is with a newly cvsupped system, and I checked the version of gethints.pl: ROOT:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf:472 >cvs status gethints.pl =================================================================== File: gethints.pl Status: Up-to-date Working revision: 1.4 Sun Jun 18 01:43:22 2000 Repository revision: 1.4 /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/gethints.pl,v Sticky Tag: (none) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) So I think that's right. My config file before had worked just fine, but as a test, I went thru it and really tried to make it squeaky clean, but it didn't seem to get rid of that error. I don't know if this message indicates a fatal problem or just is a leftover printf, there's damned little in the way of info in it. I don't know, maybe that error message is referring to line 1 of my config file? Here's the start of the config file: machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident CH maxusers 64 # Create a SMP capable kernel (mandatory options): options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O If that doesn't do it, I'm attaching the entire config file to this mail. Sure would appreciate a hint; I'm not a perl hacker, but if I gotta become one to puzzle this out, it's going to take me an long extra while trying to get me a new kernel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20: 4:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D9E37B67F for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) Received: from gateway.posi.net (user-33qti9c.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.201.44]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01266 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by gateway.posi.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01895 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Yancey To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: prod for PR 15251 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please review/commit PR 15251. It addresses a number of signedness issues in the sysctl code. While originally submitted almost 7 months ago, I have updated the PR with patches against a fairly recent -current. Thank you, Kelly -- Kelly Yancey - kbyanc@posi.net - Belmont, CA System Administrator, eGroups.com http://www.egroups.com/ Maintainer, BSD Driver Database http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/ Coordinator, Team FreeBSD http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D09F37B8F6 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.7/nospam) with UUCP id FAA20088 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:06:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 68D888882; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:23:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:23:30 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/ancontrol ancontrol.c Message-ID: <20000626012330.A40868@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006182310.QAA62863@freefall.freebsd.org> <200006190649.NAA53254@wint.itfs.nsk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006190649.NAA53254@wint.itfs.nsk.su>; from nnd@mail.nsk.ru on Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 01:49:34PM +0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT/ELF AMD-K6/200 & 2x PPro/200 SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Nickolay Dudorov: > The first line of the resulting file (with the $OpenBSD: tag) > close the comment and makes this file uncompilable. [back from USENIX] Green fixed this in time but I'll remove the comment anyway as it wasn't supposed to be committed (we don't use the OpenBSD file verbatim). /me should edit diffs more carefully -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 5.0-CURRENT #80: Sun Jun 4 22:44:19 CEST 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20:42:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f202.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A00837B86D for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 35715 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 03:42:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626034232.35714.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:42:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:42:32 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I apologize for posting this to -current, but I really need to know how bad the damage is ASAP because I may need to reinstall. When I type 'startx' I get a message that libc.so.3 cannot be found and also a note about /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 I'm not sure how these two files are related. Is libc.so.3 contained in ld-elf.so, or called from it? I'm not sure what happened to this file(s) but I did a 'make' on XFree86 to see if the file(s) are produced there, but they don't seem to be a part of XFree86. I believe that libc.so may be a C-library provided by the system, and I may need to either ftp a new one or install a new system. Any help is very welcome. John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20:43:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3628037B972 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (root@rac8.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.148]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12344; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac8.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA10256; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac8.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10252; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac8.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Chuck Robey Cc: FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help though. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Chuck Robey wrote: > I am getting a config error with the new gethints.pl stuff: > > unrecognized config token 1 > > This is with a newly cvsupped system, and I checked the version of > gethints.pl: > > ROOT:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf:472 >cvs status gethints.pl > =================================================================== > File: gethints.pl Status: Up-to-date > > Working revision: 1.4 Sun Jun 18 01:43:22 2000 > Repository revision: 1.4 /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/gethints.pl,v > Sticky Tag: (none) > Sticky Date: (none) > Sticky Options: (none) > > So I think that's right. My config file before had worked just fine, but > as a test, I went thru it and really tried to make it squeaky clean, but > it didn't seem to get rid of that error. I don't know if this message > indicates a fatal problem or just is a leftover printf, there's damned > little in the way of info in it. > > I don't know, maybe that error message is referring to line 1 of my config > file? Here's the start of the config file: > > machine i386 > > cpu I586_CPU > cpu I686_CPU > ident CH > maxusers 64 > > # Create a SMP capable kernel (mandatory options): > options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel > options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O > > If that doesn't do it, I'm attaching the entire config file to this mail. > > Sure would appreciate a hint; I'm not a perl hacker, but if I gotta become > one to puzzle this out, it's going to take me an long extra while trying > to get me a new kernel. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, > chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. > > New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up > fictitious words in the dictionary. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20:46:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f183.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BCF937B972 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:46:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 22643 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 03:46:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626034624.22642.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:46:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:46:24 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I am using 4.0-STABLE John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20:58: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF35637B5BD for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:57:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA31212; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:56:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:56:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I > only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to > help though. I'm about ready to post again, so this is good timing. I got the totally vague warning from gethints.pl to quiet by making my disk section look much like the NOTES file. I then ran it by a brand new config, and out spewed more than 25 errors. The entire section on wiring down disks fails, and also all the stuff on npx, even tho that part was copied verbatim from NOTES. I have an Adaptec dual channel controller on my motherboard, and I have 3 disks and 2 cdroms, which I want to wire down. There's lines in the NOTES examples whose meanings just make no sense to me. Let me do a bit of quoting: [from NOTES] hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" hint.scbus.1.bus="0" hint.scbus.3.at="ahc2" hint.scbus.3.bus="0" hint.scbus.2.at="ahc2" hint.scbus.2.bus="1" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="0" hint.da.0.unit="0" hint.da.1.at="scbus3" hint.da.1.target="1" hint.da.2.at="scbus2" hint.da.2.target="3" hint.sa.1.at="scbus1" hint.sa.1.target="6" What does ``hint.scbus.1.bus="0"'' mean? Do I have to stick a number after the "device ahc" and "device scbus" lines (the NOTES file doesn't). Are there any other oddities I ought to know of? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 20:58:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bugg.strangled.net (c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com [24.2.137.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D6537B5CA for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugg@bugg.strangled.net) Received: (from bugg@localhost) by bugg.strangled.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA57003; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:58:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bugg) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:58:26 -0400 From: Dan Papasian To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Message-ID: <20000625235826.A56719@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> References: <20000626034624.22642.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000626034624.22642.qmail@hotmail.com>; from jmd526@hotmail.com on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 11:46:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This would probably be more appropriate on -questions. I take it the problem started when you updated? Sounds like you may need to recompile your X server or install compat3x (the latter is the sane choice) -Dan On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 11:46:24PM -0400, John Daniels wrote: > Hi: > > I am using 4.0-STABLE > > John > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:17:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F5E37B5EF; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02221; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3956D943.5A898BE9@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:17:07 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0603 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dampure, Pierre Y." Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Murray Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 References: <395651B3.441FACFB@alveley.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A59763508FAEFA8A720AAC6C" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A59763508FAEFA8A720AAC6C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Dampure, Pierre Y." wrote: > > Apologies if this has already been reported, but `make world` is > currently failing when trying to generate Config.pm for the newly > imported Perl 5.6 (failure at line 20 of configpm) Second that. Clean /usr/obj, make cleandir in /usr/src, problem still there. cd /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl; make build-tools cd /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Invalid conversion in sprintf: "%v" at /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 20. Use of uninitialized value at /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm: Config.pm not valid at /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 432. *** Error code 255 Even when I got past that problem by setting '$myver = $];' in configpm, the next problem that came up was: Use of uninitialized value at /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 433. /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm: Config.pm not valid at /usr/amd/realmounts/slave/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/configpm line 433. *** Error code 255 This indicates to me that configpm is not reading Config.pm from the obj directory, which does contain the correct value that configpm is looking for at line 433. I'm not sure what the fix is, but hopefully this'll help mark down the road. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? --------------A59763508FAEFA8A720AAC6C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="perlfix" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="perlfix" Index: configpm =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/contrib/perl5/configpm,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.2 diff -u -r1.1.1.2 configpm --- configpm 2000/06/25 11:02:51 1.1.1.2 +++ configpm 2000/06/26 03:58:14 @@ -17,7 +17,8 @@ open CONFIG, ">$config_pm" or die "Can't open $config_pm: $!\n"; -$myver = sprintf "v%vd", $^V; +#$myver = sprintf "v%vd", $^V; +$myver = $]; print CONFIG <<'ENDOFBEG_NOQ', <<"ENDOFBEG"; package Config; --------------A59763508FAEFA8A720AAC6C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:24:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B1CD37B659 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:24:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 19912 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 04:24:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626042433.19911.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:24:33 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: bugg@bugg.strangled.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:24:33 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: >This would probably be more appropriate on -questions. > Yes, that's why I apologized for posting it here. It has been posted on -questions for several hours but I haven't got an answer, it is getting very late on the east coast and I need to resolve this by tomorrow. Again, I apologize for the post, and I thank you for responding. >I take it the problem started when you updated? Sounds >like you may need to recompile your X server or install >compat3x (the latter is the sane choice) > The problem did not start when I updated (as of May 27th). I believe that I must have accidentally removed the file today. I did a 'make' in XFree86 to see if the libc.so file was created, but it wasn't. I don't want to go on and do 'make install' unless that is definitely be the correct solution. Can I compile the libc.so.3 from /usr/src/lib/libc? What would be the exact command? John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:29: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB537B659 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72036; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so In-Reply-To: <20000626034232.35714.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: >Hi: > >I apologize for posting this to -current, but I really need to know how bad >the damage is ASAP because I may need to reinstall. > >When I type 'startx' I get a message that libc.so.3 cannot be found and also >a note about /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > >I'm not sure how these two files are related. Is libc.so.3 contained in >ld-elf.so, or called from it? > >I'm not sure what happened to this file(s) but I did a 'make' on XFree86 to >see if the file(s) are produced there, but they don't seem to be a part of >XFree86. I believe that libc.so may be a C-library provided by the system, >and I may need to either ftp a new one or install a new system. > >Any help is very welcome. > >John > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:36:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f325.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9148037B974 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:36:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 89862 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 04:36:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626043614.89861.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:36:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: bsdx@looksharp.net, jmd526@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:36:14 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: >From: Adam >Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd > You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it might've only been 'kernel source'). Is it possible to 1) ftp the file, 2) compile it from /usr/src/lib/libc, (if the souce is there)? John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:40:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ultra2.quiknet.com (ultra2.quiknet.com [207.183.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FB2637B5E9 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dave@allunix.com) Received: (qmail 20130 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 04:40:10 -0000 Received: from 19.70.3-10.fo.pmpool.quiknet.com (HELO tiffany) (207.231.70.19) by ultra2.quiknet.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 04:40:10 -0000 From: Dave@allunix.com To: "John Daniels" Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:39:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <39567C2B.24253.5987FA@localhost> In-reply-to: <20000626043614.89861.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /stand/sysinstall go to the post install configure option then to Distribution sets and then to 3x compat libraries. It will prompt you to choose your install preference.FTP, CDROM, etc. On 26 Jun 2000, at 0:36, John Daniels wrote: > Hi: > > > >From: Adam > >Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd > > > You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? > I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it > might've only been 'kernel source'). Is it possible to 1) ftp the file, 2) > compile it from /usr/src/lib/libc, (if the souce is there)? > > John > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:40:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CAE37B5E9 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:40:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (root@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06002; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA22626; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22622; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:40:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Chuck Robey Cc: FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I think maybe you have to put a number in if you want stuff wired down.. but basically I'm not sure if all the kinks have been worked out yet... ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I > > only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to > > help though. > > I'm about ready to post again, so this is good timing. > > I got the totally vague warning from gethints.pl to quiet by making my > disk section look much like the NOTES file. I then ran it by a brand new > config, and out spewed more than 25 errors. The entire section on wiring > down disks fails, and also all the stuff on npx, even tho that part was > copied verbatim from NOTES. > > I have an Adaptec dual channel controller on my motherboard, and I have 3 > disks and 2 cdroms, which I want to wire down. There's lines in the NOTES > examples whose meanings just make no sense to me. Let me do a bit of > quoting: > > [from NOTES] > hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" > hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" > hint.scbus.1.bus="0" > hint.scbus.3.at="ahc2" > hint.scbus.3.bus="0" > hint.scbus.2.at="ahc2" > hint.scbus.2.bus="1" > hint.da.0.at="scbus0" > hint.da.0.target="0" > hint.da.0.unit="0" > hint.da.1.at="scbus3" > hint.da.1.target="1" > hint.da.2.at="scbus2" > hint.da.2.target="3" > hint.sa.1.at="scbus1" > hint.sa.1.target="6" > > > What does ``hint.scbus.1.bus="0"'' mean? Do I have to stick a number > after the "device ahc" and "device scbus" lines (the NOTES file > doesn't). Are there any other oddities I ought to know of? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, > chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. > > New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up > fictitious words in the dictionary. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:43:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D637BAAA for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:43:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA72159; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:43:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:43:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: John Daniels Cc: bsdx@looksharp.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so In-Reply-To: <20000626043614.89861.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: >Hi: > > >>From: Adam >>Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd >> >You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? >I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it >might've only been 'kernel source'). Is it possible to 1) ftp the file, 2) >compile it from /usr/src/lib/libc, (if the souce is there)? > >John Run /stand/sysinstall, go to the Post-Install Configuration menu, select Install additional FreeBSD distribution sets, and when asked for a media type, select FTP. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:46:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B55C37B827; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michaelw@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (darkstar.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.69]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-GLGS) with ESMTP id VAA10459; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-VIRSCAN) id VAA08858; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:46:19 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:46:19 -0700 Nokia Silicon Valley Email Exploit Scanner Received: from (maxdialin5.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.20.235]) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com SMTP/WTS (12.69) xma008563; Sun, 25 Jun 00 21:46:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3956E064.9EDFBC7F@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:47:32 -0700 From: Michael Wlliams Organization: NOKIA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: mjacob@feral.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... References: <200006151534.IAA01972@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm catching up on email, sorry if this was answered... are you talking OBP/Forth on Suns? Try ok sifting foo to get a list of words with foo in them (kinda like grep foo). Try ok see foo to see the details of the word (if you get forth this will help.) If you're not doing forth/obp... my apologies for the irrelevancy. Mike Williams Mike Smith wrote: > > Uh, 'help' doesn't give you a list of commands I believe. > > Damn, it doesn't either. 'help' is the same as 'help help'. > > Suggestions for a better replacement for ? 'commands'? > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 21:54:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f98.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3914237B7F2 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:54:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1660 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 04:54:53 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626045453.1659.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:54:53 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:54:53 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks everyone. I'll try your suggestions. John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 22:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from christel.heitec.net (christel.heitec.net [212.204.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC7E37B8F7 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bernd.luevelsmeyer@heitec.net) Received: from heitec.net (paladin.heitec.net [212.204.92.251]) by christel.heitec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CF8354810; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:13:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3956E5D7.A7C9BECC@heitec.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:10:47 +0200 From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Organization: Heitec AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dampure, Pierre Y." Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with nlist on -current? References: <3956501C.75435934@alveley.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dampure, Pierre Y. wrote: > > I installed 5.0-20000621-CURRENT on a new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB > RDRAM) and had problems with top / systat / vmstat all failing after > reporting problems with nlist: [...] At a guess, you don't use /boot/loader? The loader seems to be no longer optional, see http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17422 This problem has been discussed several times in the "questions" mailing list, and R. Ermilov kindly mailed 2 patches: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1186602+1196206+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-questions/20000409.freebsd-questions (While I'm at it, may I suggest that the patches be committed? I'm using them for more than a month now on 4.0-Stable, and they work just fine.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 22:12:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f151.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6307E37B5A5 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmd526@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 27803 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2000 05:11:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20000626051159.27802.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.220.228.2 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:11:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.220.228.2] From: "John Daniels" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:11:59 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using /stand/sysinstall to (re-) install compat3x solved the problem! It was really pretty quick and easy. Thanks again, everyone! John ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 22:35:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC18737B69F for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA72492; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:35:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:35:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so In-Reply-To: <20000626043614.89861.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, John Daniels wrote: >Hi: > > >>From: Adam >>Try installing the compat3x distribution portion of freebsd >> >You are the second person who has suggested this. How can I best do this? >I don't have a CD, but I did keep some system sources. (but I think it >might've only been 'kernel source'). Is it possible to 1) ftp the file, 2) >compile it from /usr/src/lib/libc, (if the souce is there)? Do you have a net connect? If so, ftp to ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD in your version dir, look for compat3x, grab the files in the dir, and run the .sh. If you have a direct connect, run /stand/sysinstall and goto configure, distributions. 2) no. it would compile libc.so.4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 22:39:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F55937B988 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:39:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 1664 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 05:39:10 -0000 Received: from acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (63.90.94.131) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 05:39:10 -0000 Message-ID: <3956EC7D.6AA59E83@cvzoom.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:39:09 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. > > Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note > > in updating right now. > > That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work > machines for the next few days until entropy is fixed. It would be interesting to see how many people are using FreeBSD-current as a "work" machine, if you mean "work" to be a production machine doing actual server work. A lot of times, -current has been pretty stable for me, and I avoided a lot of "make world" and stability problems by following what's going on in this mailing list. I've only had a couple problems over the past 3 1/2 years with stability in FreeBSD-current, starting with 3.0-current. Granted, it's not generally recommended to use -current boxes as your main machine, but if you're careful, it's doable. I say FreeBSD-current makes a pretty decent production machine if the admin is smart enough to follow the mailing list and is knowledegeable enough to recognize the pitfalls of running such a beast. All others should be running 4.0-release or -stable, of course. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 23: 2:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF3137BE62; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20922; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:03:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006260603.IAA20922@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:11:06 MST." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:03:06 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. > > Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note > > in updating right now. > > That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work > machines for the next few days until entropy is fixed. Upgrading is fine; just don't build certificates/credentials. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 23: 8:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C0937B929; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA71710; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:08:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006260603.IAA20922@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work > > machines for the next few days until entropy is fixed. > > Upgrading is fine; just don't build certificates/credentials. Or use ssh Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 23:37:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A9E37B9AD for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 815781C6A; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:37:08 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: John Daniels Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! can't 'startx' - missing libc.so Message-ID: <20000626023708.P14479@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000626045453.1659.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000626045453.1659.qmail@hotmail.com>; from jmd526@hotmail.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:54:53AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:54:53AM -0400, John Daniels wrote: > Thanks everyone. I'll try your suggestions. Including using a mailing list that is appropriate for your version of FreeBSD (4.x is -stable, not -current) and your subject matter (this is questions@) material in the future, right? -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 23:42:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0EB37B850 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21048; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:42:43 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Doug Barton Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 References: <3956D943.5A898BE9@gorean.org> In-Reply-To: <3956D943.5A898BE9@gorean.org> ; from Doug Barton "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:17:07 MST." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:42:43 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This indicates to me that configpm is not reading Config.pm from the obj > directory, which does contain the correct value that configpm is looking > for at line 433. > > I'm not sure what the fix is, but hopefully this'll help mark down the > road. Thanks! You're building threads, right? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 25 23:45:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBB037B850 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userek73.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.13.183] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 136Sdi-0002UL-00 ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:45:02 +0100 Message-ID: <3956FC87.DFDA86C1@alveley.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:47:35 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with nlist on -current? References: <3956501C.75435934@alveley.org> <3956E5D7.A7C9BECC@heitec.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bernd Luevelsmeyer wrote: > > Dampure, Pierre Y. wrote: > > > > I installed 5.0-20000621-CURRENT on a new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB > > RDRAM) and had problems with top / systat / vmstat all failing after > > reporting problems with nlist: > [...] > > At a guess, you don't use /boot/loader? > The loader seems to be no longer optional, see > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=17422 > > This problem has been discussed several times in the "questions" mailing > list, and R. Ermilov kindly mailed 2 patches: > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1186602+1196206+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-questions/20000409.freebsd-questions > > (While I'm at it, may I suggest that the patches be committed? I'm using > them for more than a month now on 4.0-Stable, and they work just fine.) My system has 4 SCSI disks, W2K on disk 0, FreeBSD on 1, 2 and 3 (FreeBSD Multiboot installed on disk 0; disks 1, 2 and 3 all in dedicated mode). At boot time, boo2 throws out a 'No /boot/loader' messages, then proceeds to load the kernel normally. So... I guess indeed I do not use /boot/loader, though not of my own will. Thanks for the pointers! PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 0:22:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE46437BA0E for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 136TDe-000L5F-0B; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:22:10 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA93915; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:22:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:26:17 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! In-Reply-To: <200006251824.UAA13798@freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Without knowing what you typed (and where), I can't help. > > > > > > Well, I thought that was obvious :) > > > > Not really; folks do the darndest things. :-) > > > > > Just added options RANDOMDEV as pr your instructions and made > > > a new kernel with config -r and make depend then make.... > > > > Do you have a full crypto distribution (kernel also)? > > Nope, just figured that out myself :) > Aren't we supposed to be able to build without crypto ?? Since the random dev is a cryptographically strong PRNG, I think its reasonable to depend on the crypto kernel bits. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 0:26:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1515137BA68 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03819; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <39570584.7DF668B6@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:25:56 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0603 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 References: <3956D943.5A898BE9@gorean.org> <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > > > This indicates to me that configpm is not reading Config.pm from the obj > > directory, which does contain the correct value that configpm is looking > > for at line 433. > > > > I'm not sure what the fix is, but hopefully this'll help mark down the > > road. > > Thanks! You're building threads, right? No... should I be? The only perl related item in /etc/make.conf is: NOSUIDPERL= true I forgot to mention that my cvs update happened after your commit to perl.h. Anything I can do to help, let me know. Semi-PS, I'd like to put in a vote for your /dev/random work to be completed before the SMP destabilization begins. It would be nice to have a fully-working -Current to fall back on before the axes start to fall. :) Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 0:41:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (blizzard.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D781837BAB6 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.106]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03895; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:39:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07375; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:41:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <39570913.DE4F3770@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:41:07 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: /dev/random, Perl 5.6 & SMP destabilisation (Was: Vendor import of Perl 5.6) References: <3956D943.5A898BE9@gorean.org> <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> <39570584.7DF668B6@gorean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > Semi-PS, I'd like to put in a vote for your /dev/random work to be > completed before the SMP destabilization begins. It would be nice to > have a fully-working -Current to fall back on before the axes start to > fall. :) I second to this. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 0:54:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD2037BAC1; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id QAA27535; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:54:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.4) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma027420; Mon, 26 Jun 00 16:54:28 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (IDENT:root@kbtgk.eto.kubota.co.jp [133.253.122.3]) by kbtmk.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id QAA00141; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:54:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.ttr.kubota.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-02/21/99) with ESMTP id QAA02965; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:53:36 +0900 (JST) To: markm@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Doug Barton , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 In-Reply-To: <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> References: <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000626165335M.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:53:35 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 64 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:42:43 +0200 From: Mark Murray ::> This indicates to me that configpm is not reading Config.pm from the obj ::> directory, which does contain the correct value that configpm is looking ::> for at line 433. ::> ::> I'm not sure what the fix is, but hopefully this'll help mark down the ::> road. :: ::Thanks! You're building threads, right? Mark, I'm not sure if this is correct, but I got through the perl build problem with the following patch: ---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- --- contrib/perl5/configpm.ctm Mon Jun 26 13:10:55 2000 +++ contrib/perl5/configpm Mon Jun 26 16:33:13 2000 @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ open CONFIG, ">$config_pm" or die "Can't open $config_pm: $!\n"; -$myver = sprintf "v%vd", $^V; +$myver = $]; print CONFIG <<'ENDOFBEG_NOQ', <<"ENDOFBEG"; package Config; @@ -430,11 +430,11 @@ import Config; die "$0: $config_pm not valid" - unless $Config{'CONFIGDOTSH'} eq 'true'; + unless $Config{'CONFIG'} eq 'true'; die "$0: error processing $config_pm" if defined($Config{'an impossible name'}) - or $Config{'CONFIGDOTSH'} ne 'true' # test cache + or $Config{'CONFIG'} ne 'true' # test cache ; die "$0: error processing $config_pm" ---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- BTW, my buildworld is still going, so should know the results in a few hours. Hope this helps, Haro =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 0:59:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE3637B930; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: from C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.12.58.155]) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA91853; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:57:13 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA52621; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:57:00 -0700 From: Jeremy Lea To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Call for review: pkg_which. Message-ID: <20000626005659.B311@shale.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, This is BCC'd to ports, since it is mostly for use there... I've placed the source for a new command, pkg_which, on http://people.freebsd.org/~reg/. The idea behind this command is to get Ports/Packages to register their dependencies based on what is on the system, not what they think should be there. Thus, if you have old libraries or a different version of shostscript installed, this will allow the system to register the correct dependency. Patches to bsd.port.mk and pkg_add to follow shortly. At the moment I'd like some people to test and review this. It works for me, but history has shown that to be a poor indicator of real success. Also, I'm not used to style(9), so this might be a mess, and the man page certainly needs some work. Regards, -Jeremy -- FreeBSD - Because the best things in life are free... http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 1:18: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (ppp-179.dialup.clari.net.au [203.57.253.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B20D37BA78 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00624; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:23:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200006260823.BAA00624@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Nick Hibma Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: irunning, width in bits. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:40:31 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:23:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > What about shared interrupts? How are they going to be treated? With the > spl leaving the arena it somehow looks feasible to run one interrupt > source on two different threads if there are two pieces of hardware > attached to the same interrupt line. > > >From what I understood from dfr, when switching away from an interrupt > handler it is converted into a full thread. When the second piece of > hardware fires an interrupt it could then run at the same time. I thought of this almost immediately - it's a bad idea though because it makes it hard to determine when to EOI an interrupt. If you expect to perform significant processing in your interrupt handler, you should consider a taskq. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 1:25:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (blizzard.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DB937BB40; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.106]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05887; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:24:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07608; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:25:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3957136A.DCEC9CE@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:25:15 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Lea Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Call for review: pkg_which. References: <20000626005659.B311@shale.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeremy Lea wrote: > Hi guys, > > This is BCC'd to ports, since it is mostly for use there... > > I've placed the source for a new command, pkg_which, on > http://people.freebsd.org/~reg/. > > The idea behind this command is to get Ports/Packages to register their > dependencies based on what is on the system, not what they think should > be there. Thus, if you have old libraries or a different version of > shostscript installed, this will allow the system to register the > correct dependency. Patches to bsd.port.mk and pkg_add to follow > shortly. > > At the moment I'd like some people to test and review this. It works > for me, but history has shown that to be a poor indicator of real > success. Also, I'm not used to style(9), so this might be a mess, and > the man page certainly needs some work. Some time ago I had similar idea, but thought about slightly different approach - use existing pkg_info facilities instead of adding new command. Idea is simple: add new option to the pkg_info, for example "-f" which takes name of the file and names of several installed packages. Then pkg_info examines PLISTs of those packages and returns 0 if the file belongs to those packages or 1 if it is not (e.g. pkg_info -f /usr/local/bin/somefile package1-1.0 package2-1.0). This could be easily implemented without much bloat (I think 30-40 lines of additional code will be sufficient). -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2: 0: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A1F37BC3B; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:59:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA17119; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA14589; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:59:50 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Mark Murray , "Jacques A . Vidrine" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626015950.C14265@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > I must say I'm not all that comfortable with this series of commits - I > was expecting this to stay in Mark's tree until it at least tries to do > everything the old driver did. Weakening system security like this for an > indeterminate period really bothers me. Agreed. Unlike the upcoming SMPng work, I don't see why this couldn't have been done until the new random device code was fully ready. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2: 1:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4549B37BC3B; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17140; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA14608; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:01:00 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626020059.D14265@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200006252017.WAA18753@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 01:21:10PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 01:21:10PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > 1) I whined for reviews for long enough. Where were you? > > Waiting until the code was complete and nominally commitworthy before > spending time reviewing it. \begin{AOL} me too \end{AOL} -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683FA37BBAD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17145; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA14624; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:02:07 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626020207.E14265@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <200006252017.WAA18753@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006252017.WAA18753@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 10:17:27PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 10:17:27PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > 2) With the SMP "Destabilization" of the tree coming, I took the > opportunity because > a) Merging differences was going to get harder; and > b) folk were already warned off the use off CURRENT for > production purposes. Your code touched so many files and functions that you could not have not updated your /usr/src/sys for 2 weeks? It is possible to develop on something more than 1 hour old. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2: 5:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2295337BBAD; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA17216; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:05:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA14677; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:05:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Murray , dfr@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626020538.F14265@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006251035.MAA16350@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you > either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel > config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf Can't things be made to autoload random.ko as happens for if_fxp.ko when I ifconfig it, or msdos.ko and procfs.ko when I mount them. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2: 8:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098E337BC2C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:08:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136Uqy-000B2V-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:06:52 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Mike Pritchard , Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:27:28 +0900." <3955C270.92B42C6B@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:06:52 +0200 Message-ID: <42438.962010412@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:27:28 +0900, "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > This definitely needs some work. I'm not sure the hints syntax will > change much, if at all. OTOH, I don't know how to approach this. In > other words, suggestions (and specially patches) are welcome. Actually, I think that this is one of those rare occasions where patches are not welcome. :-) Right now, what we want is an assurance that the work we put into updating section 4 will not need to be duplicated because we tackled it too early. Peter, how far ahead are you looking? Can you picture what things will look like for 5.0-RELEASE? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2:10:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.corp.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF30E37C5EE for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4361CE2; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:10:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Chuck Robey Cc: FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message from Chuck Robey of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:51:18 EDT." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:10:29 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000626091029.AC4361CE2@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > I am getting a config error with the new gethints.pl stuff: > > unrecognized config token 1 This means the decoder for 'device ed0 at isa? flags 1' style lines did not like what was in one of your device lines. I have added a new line number message in the error so that it should be easier to spot what is going on. /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/gethints.pl,v <-- gethints.pl new revision: 1.5; previous revision: 1.4 Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2:15:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422C737BC3D; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:14:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA88198; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:25:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00552; Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:58:03 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:58:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org, dgl@bsdi.com, jim@cdrom.com, papowell@astart.com, wpaul@freebsd.org, ceren@magnesium.net, ryan@ryan.net, murray@bsdi.com Subject: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ Sent to -doc, for info, -current for some expert advice on the feasability of this approach with FreeBSD's migration to a kernel consisting only of aggregated devices. ] We have a problem with keeping our documentation up to date. One of the most glaring examples of this is the hardware compatability list. We currently list hardware information in LINT, HARDWARE.TXT, the FAQ, and the Handbook. Any time this information changes it has to be updated in all these places (and possibly more). This does not always happen. I'm thinking of abstracting out our list of supported hardware in to one file, marked up according to an XML DTD. Something like [...] keyboard controller device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD The keyboard controller; it controls the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse. keyboard device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 The AT keyboard Specify the built-in keymap Refuse to load a keymap Install a CDEV entry in /dev 0x01 Force detection of keyboard, else we always assume a keyboard 0x02 Don't reset keyboard, useful for some new ThinkPads 0x04 Old-style (XT) keyboard support, useful for older ThinkPads [ That schema is not set in stone, and certainly requires more work. In particular, we probably need "lang" and "encoding" options on the element, to support comments in more than one language. ] LINT would then become a skeletal file for things which don't fit this sort of pattern, and the full LINT would be generated by a script which parsed the above and the skeletal file to generate the full LINT. Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ. Still another (CGI) script could sit on the website. I'm enamoured of BSDi's hardware selection CGI script on their website. You can choose from a drop down list of supported hardware and/or manufacturers, or do a free text search, and get back a formatted list of all the matching hardware, entries for the kernel config file, links back to the manufacturer's website where necessary, and comments about the suitability or otherwise of specific hardware for specific tasks. We could do something similar today without the above, XML stuff, but it would require duplicating the hardware list in yet another place, which would be a bad thing. The solution I'm proposing would keep all the hardware information in one place, where it would be the driver developer's responsibility to maintain. What I don't know is how this scheme fits in with FreeBSD's future direction. From scanning -current I know that the aim is to have a kernel with very few devices compiled in to it -- devices will be probed once, and if the probe runs true the rest of the device driver will be loaded in. In particular, the phrase "config(8) must die" is bandied about with increasing frequency. I assume, however, that there will still be a place for a statically compiled and configured FreeBSD kernel -- embedded devices, or where you don't want the kernel to load certain devices, or whatever. Can -current provide -doc with a roadmap of where we're heading in this respect, and how a scheme like the above should fit in. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2:17: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.corp.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0250337BA9B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C411CE3; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Chuck Robey Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message from Chuck Robey of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:56:20 EDT." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:16:55 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000626091655.10C411CE3@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I > > only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to > > help though. > > I'm about ready to post again, so this is good timing. > > I got the totally vague warning from gethints.pl to quiet by making my > disk section look much like the NOTES file. I then ran it by a brand new > config, and out spewed more than 25 errors. The entire section on wiring > down disks fails, and also all the stuff on npx, even tho that part was > copied verbatim from NOTES. You should get no errors from gethints.pl based on the disk section in NOTES file because those entries are actual hints for device.hints, not something that you put in a config file and feed to gethints.pl. > I have an Adaptec dual channel controller on my motherboard, and I have 3 > disks and 2 cdroms, which I want to wire down. There's lines in the NOTES > examples whose meanings just make no sense to me. Let me do a bit of > quoting: > > [from NOTES] > hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" > hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" > hint.scbus.1.bus="0" > hint.scbus.3.at="ahc2" > hint.scbus.3.bus="0" > hint.scbus.2.at="ahc2" > hint.scbus.2.bus="1" > hint.da.0.at="scbus0" > hint.da.0.target="0" > hint.da.0.unit="0" > hint.da.1.at="scbus3" > hint.da.1.target="1" > hint.da.2.at="scbus2" > hint.da.2.target="3" > hint.sa.1.at="scbus1" > hint.sa.1.target="6" > > > What does ``hint.scbus.1.bus="0"'' mean? Do I have to stick a number > after the "device ahc" and "device scbus" lines (the NOTES file > doesn't). Are there any other oddities I ought to know of? It works the same as the other devices: 'device scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0' becomes: hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" hint.scbus.1.bus="0" When you have a trailing '?' character in an 'at' binding, you leave it out. eg: hint.scbus.1.at="ahc" (which would have meant "device scbus1 at ahc?") You do not stick numbers after the 'device ahc' and 'device scbus' lines. The device wiring comes from the hints (either /boot/device.hints or the statically compiled in hints) Perhaps you should post your old *ORIGINAL* config file and I'll do a worked example conversion... Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2:18:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42AF37BCE4; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136V1t-000B52-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:18:09 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Stefan Esser Cc: FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Extend "test" and "expr" to 64 bit integers In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:05:14 +0200." <20000623190514.A3633@StefanEsser.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:18:08 +0200 Message-ID: <42594.962011088@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:05:14 +0200, Stefan Esser wrote: > 1) I choose "quad_t" for long integers. Is this a good choice ? > In the kernel I'd use int64_t, but I'm not sure what is most > appropriate here. I'd use the new C standard's int64_t, since you're specifically looking for 64-bit width integers. > 2) There is a new dependency on in test.c (for any > of our 64 bit integer types). These exact-width integer types should really be defined in , no? > 3) The changes to "expr" rely on 32 bit integers being promoted > to 64 bit integers in function calls (actually only invocations > of make_integer().) IT's probably worth chatting the the NetBSD folks about this, since that's where we got our version of test(1). > What does Posix say about these programs ? As long as your operands are integers, POSIX.2 is happy. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 2:58:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6F437BC7B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 292BF191B; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:58:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:58:42 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: Kelly Yancey Cc: Alexander Sanda , Garance A Drosihn , Christopher Masto , gnome-list@gnome.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gnome INSANE shared memory usage Message-ID: <20000626115842.B93880@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000624001902.00ae8948@mail.kabsi.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kbyanc@posi.net on Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 11:04:10PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 11:04:10PM -0700, Kelly Yancey wrote: > > Can you guys post the output of: > > $ ipcs -bmo | awk -- '/^m/ {num++;total+=$7*$8}; END {print num,(total/4096)}' > > taken while you are experiencing the problem. The first number is the total > number of shared memory segments currently active and the second should be the > total number of shared memory pages in use. Thanks, > > Kelly Hi, just FYI, I don't know whether this is much but my machine is definitely more lagged compared to when I just started X. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Mon Jun 5 17:06:37 CEST 2000 (yeah it's a bit out of date...) $ ipcs -bmo | awk -- '/^m/ {num++;total+=$7*$8}; END {print num,(total/4096)}' 47 1362 Running GNOME 1.2, XFree4 with the ati driver (Dell Optiplex onboard chip). --Stijn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F11737B538 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA17566; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id DAA84762; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:07:00 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kent Hauser Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: building stable from current Message-ID: <20000626030700.H14265@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200006230212.WAA21836@chapel-hill.tfd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006230212.WAA21836@chapel-hill.tfd.com>; from kent@tfd.com on Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 10:12:28PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 10:12:28PM -0400, Kent Hauser wrote: > For the last while (several months), whenever I try to build > a RELENG_4 release from my -current box, it fails building gcc. Yes. (but it should only have been for the past 1.5 mos). There are two ways to fix it. One will be done before 4.1. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3: 8:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D2237BC3D; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id TAA06816; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:08:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.4) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma006505; Mon, 26 Jun 00 19:07:44 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (IDENT:root@kbtgk.eto.kubota.co.jp [133.253.122.3]) by kbtmk.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id TAA12364; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:07:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.ttr.kubota.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-02/21/99) with ESMTP id TAA79957; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:06:53 +0900 (JST) To: markm@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: DougB@gorean.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 In-Reply-To: <20000626165335M.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> References: <200006260642.IAA21048@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626165335M.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000626190652I.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:06:52 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:53:35 +0900 ::Mark, :: ::I'm not sure if this is correct, but I got through the perl build problem ::with the following patch: ::---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- ::---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- :: ::BTW, my buildworld is still going, so should know the results ::in a few hours. Mark, My patch failed with following error, on "stage 4: make dependencies". ---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) miniperl -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib -e 'use AutoSplit; autosplit_lib_modules(@ARGV)' lib/*.pm lib/*/*.pm Perl 5.00564 required--this is only version 5.00503, stopped at /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/AutoSplit.pm line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/lib/AutoSplit.pm line 3. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1. *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 ---------8<------------------8<------------------8<---------- I don't think I can fix this one. sorry. :-( Haro, =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3:27:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2709037B846; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id e5QARdh82029; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:27:39 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:27:39 +0900 Message-ID: <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: In your message of "26 Jun 2000 09:33:30 GMT" <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 26 Jun 2000 09:33:30 GMT, nik wrote: > We have a problem with keeping our documentation up to date. One of the > most glaring examples of this is the hardware compatability list. We > currently list hardware information in LINT, HARDWARE.TXT, the FAQ, and the > Handbook. Any time this information changes it has to be updated in all > these places (and possibly more). This does not always happen. I don't like "Everything should be written in XML" type thought. But consept for automatic updating of document would be fine. So first of all, we (documentation project) should develop prototype tool to achive that conversion. And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget* to update that master text. :-) > LINT would then become a skeletal file for things which don't fit this > sort of pattern, and the full LINT would be generated by a script which > parsed the above and the skeletal file to generate the full LINT. I think developpers may dislike to install doc toolchain to build LINT file. $CVSROOT/src tree should not depend on doc toolchain. Another idea is to write some script to convert LINT to LINT.xml for documentation. And website and documents depend on it. Yes, this is not ideal world from the point of SGML/XML view, but we should not bother hackers' development in the source tree. -- Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3:30:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4232837BC90; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136W9Z-000BeM-00; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:30:09 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Jeremy Lea Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for review: pkg_which. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:57:00 MST." <20000626005659.B311@shale.csir.co.za> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:30:09 +0200 Message-ID: <44785.962015409@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:57:00 MST, Jeremy Lea wrote: > I've placed the source for a new command, pkg_which, on > http://people.freebsd.org/~reg/. Argh, yet another pkg_* command that looks (at first glance anyway) like it should have been implemented as a feature enhancement to the existing pkg_* tools. What is it that makes this unsuitable for incorporation into the existing tools? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3:41:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E38637BBEF; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 136WKG-000Ixi-0K; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:41:12 +0000 Received: from henny.webweaving.org (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA53232; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:42:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11165; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:29:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:29:39 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: irunning, width in bits. In-Reply-To: <200006260823.BAA00624@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >From what I understood from dfr, when switching away from an interrupt > > handler it is converted into a full thread. When the second piece of > > hardware fires an interrupt it could then run at the same time. > > I thought of this almost immediately - it's a bad idea though because it > makes it hard to determine when to EOI an interrupt. > > If you expect to perform significant processing in your interrupt > handler, you should consider a taskq. Right. It would be nice however to not have to go through the trouble of moving things onto different interrupts. Current BIOS's do not quite let you decide on which interrupt you would like to have assigned to the various cards. It will spread them in some way, but that might not spread the two high interrupt count cards onto separate interrupts. You have to move the hardware around in the slots to get things sorted in some cases. I guess that the perfect solution is to be able to hardwire the PCI irqs in some way once FreeBSD is doing the PnP resource allocation. Nick -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 3:50:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE1B37B8A6; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16943; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:50:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:50:09 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:39PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 07:27:39PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > So first of all, we (documentation project) should develop prototype > tool to achive that conversion. > > And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by > hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget* > to update that master text. :-) The aim is that we have one file that describes the drivers -- this file will be used by us to keep the documentation up to date, but it will also be used by the system -- if the driver writer doesn't update this file then the system won't know about their driver, and won't build it. They'll *have* to keep it up to date. > > LINT would then become a skeletal file for things which don't fit this > > sort of pattern, and the full LINT would be generated by a script which > > parsed the above and the skeletal file to generate the full LINT. > > I think developpers may dislike to install doc toolchain to build > LINT file. $CVSROOT/src tree should not depend on doc toolchain. Agreed. But Perl (already in the base system) plus a Perl XML module should be OK? > Another idea is to write some script to convert LINT to LINT.xml for > documentation. And website and documents depend on it. Yes, this is > not ideal world from the point of SGML/XML view, but we should not > bother hackers' development in the source tree. I disagree. We're not Linux, where people can throw in code without thought to the wider consequences -- one of the commitments you should make (that's a generic "you" there, not you specifically) as a FreeBSD committer is to maintain the documentation that's affected by your changes. A look at HARDWARE.TXT shows that (with a few notable exceptions) the FreeBSD Developer Community at large is *not* keeping it up to date. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 4: 7:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430E137B9BE; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p03-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.4]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id UAA24435; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:07:34 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3957374D.A846C00E@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:58:21 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Wlliams Cc: Mike Smith , mjacob@feral.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... References: <200006151534.IAA01972@mass.osd.bsdi.com> <3956E064.9EDFBC7F@iprg.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Wlliams wrote: > > I'm catching up on email, sorry if this was answered... are you talking > OBP/Forth > on Suns? Try > ok sifting foo > to get a list of words with foo in them (kinda like grep foo). Try > ok see foo > to see the details of the word (if you get forth this will help.) > > If you're not doing forth/obp... my apologies for the irrelevancy. > Mike Williams He is talking loader(8). Mmmmmm. Sifting looks cool. I may add it... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org Windows works, for sufficently small values of "works". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 4:43:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200F037BD44; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 04:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p18-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.83]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id UAA05069; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:43:43 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:40:44 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jun Kuriyama wrote: > And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by > hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget* > to update that master text. :-) I'm not sure I would *forget* it, but I my indulge in "forget"ing it. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org Windows works, for sufficently small values of "works". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 5:31: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494E637BC3F for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA32666; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:29:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:29:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Peter Wemm Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: <20000626091655.10C411CE3@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Peter Wemm wrote: > > What does ``hint.scbus.1.bus="0"'' mean? Do I have to stick a number > > after the "device ahc" and "device scbus" lines (the NOTES file > > doesn't). Are there any other oddities I ought to know of? > > It works the same as the other devices: > > 'device scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0' > > becomes: > > hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" > hint.scbus.1.bus="0" > > When you have a trailing '?' character in an 'at' binding, you leave it out. > eg: hint.scbus.1.at="ahc" (which would have meant "device scbus1 at ahc?") > > You do not stick numbers after the 'device ahc' and 'device scbus' lines. > The device wiring comes from the hints (either /boot/device.hints or > the statically compiled in hints) > > Perhaps you should post your old *ORIGINAL* config file and I'll do a worked > example conversion... Sure, OK. Here's the last one I've been using, before I did any editing. I have five scsi devices. The disks are wired down, the cd's are not wired down here, but they show up on ahc1 targets 5 & 6 (show them floating, for more variety in the example). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident CH maxusers 64 # Create a SMP capable kernel (mandatory options): options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optional, these are the defaults: options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs options NBUS=4 # number of busses options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs options NINTR=24 # number of INTs options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE options SYSVMSG options MSGBUF_SIZE=40960 options NETATALK #Appletalk communications protocols options NETGRAPH #netgraph(4) system options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L # Lets always enable the kernel debugger for SMP. options DDB options GPL_MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation via options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS_ROOT options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=8000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SOFTUPDATES options VESA # needs VM86 defined too!! options COMPAT_LINUX # If you see the "calcru: negative time of %ld usec for pid %d (%s)\n" # message you probably have some broken sw/hw which disables interrupts # for too long. You can make the system more resistant to this by # choosing a high value for NTIMECOUNTER. The default is 5, there # is no upper limit but more than a couple of hundred are not productive. # A better strategy may be to sysctl -w kern.timecounter.method=1 options NTIMECOUNTER=20 options ROOTDEVNAME=\"ufs:da0s1a\" device isa0 device eisa0 #controller pnp0 device pci0 device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. device ahc0 device ahc1 device scbus0 at ahc0 device scbus1 at ahc1 device pcm0 device bktr0 device iicbus0 device iicbb0 device smbus0 # The Numeric Processing eXtension driver. This should be configured if # your machine has a math co-processor, unless the coprocessor is very # buggy. If it is not configured then you *must* configure math emulation # (see above). If both npx0 and emulation are configured, then only npx0 # is used (provided it works). device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 device da0 at scbus 0 target 0 device da1 at scbus 0 target 2 device da2 at scbus 1 target 1 device cd0 at scbus? device cd1 at scbus? # The keyboard controller; it controlls the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse. device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD # The AT keyboard device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 # new syscons stuff device vga0 at isa? port ? device sc0 at isa? device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 drq 3 device ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? device pps0 at ppbus? # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 device fxp0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device vn pseudo-device ether pseudo-device snp 4 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 128 pseudo-device streams pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device bpf 4 device pass0 #CAM passthrough driver device pass1 #CAM passthrough driver device pass2 #CAM passthrough driver device pass3 #CAM passthrough driver # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # PS/2 mouse device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@picnic.mat.net | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 6:25:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA18237B672; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.1.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B64B9B2D; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:25:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bone.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1467F1DC6; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:25:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:25:17 -0500 From: "Jacques A . Vidrine" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626082516.C18421@bone.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A . Vidrine" , Kris Kennaway , Mark Murray , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org References: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy > > > and which gather their own. > SSH and SSL should not be used: PGP should be okay. FWIW, a quick look indicates: MIT Kerberos V gathers its own ``entropy'' when generating random keys Heimdal uses /dev/random This matters in particular for creating keys for servers. Session keys may or may not be a big deal, depending on the application. -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 6:30:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.aob.org (mailman.aob.org [206.168.226.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB8D37B672 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from farling@aob.org) Received: from mailman (mailman.aob.org [206.168.226.8]) by mailman.aob.org (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA00020 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:30:30 -0600 From: "Scott Farling" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:30:30 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDF40.683C0C50" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDF40.683C0C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDF40.683C0C50 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+Ih4NAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANAHBgAaAAcAHgAAAAEAHQEB A5AGANQDAAAhAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAB4AcAAB AAAADAAAAHVuc3Vic2NyaWJlAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG/33KyVyrzYzhLZBHUhxkAUNpjdf8AAAIB HQwBAAAAFQAAAFNNVFA6RkFSTElOR0BBT0IuT1JHAAAAAAsAAQ4AAAAAQAAGDgB8ZqBy378BAgEK DgEAAAAYAAAAAAAAAGpV/AvRydMRhtwAUNpjdf/CgAAAAgEJEAEAAABfAAAAWwAAAHcAAABMWkZ1 LWsv1QMACgByY3BnMTI1FjIA+Atgbg4QMDMzTwH3AqQD4wIAY2gKwHOwZXQwIAcTAoB9CoGSdgiQ d2sLgGQ0DGB+YwBQCwMLtgqxCoAR4QABFGAACwABgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAA AAADAAOACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAQhQAAAAAAAAMAB4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA AFKFAAB9bgEAHgAJgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAEAAAAOS4wAAsADYAIIAYA AAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAIKFAAABAAAACwA6gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAAD ADyACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAARhQAAAAAAAAMAPYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiF AAAAAAAACwBfgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAABoUAAAAAAAADAGCACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAA RgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAIB+A8BAAAAEAAAAGpV/AvRydMRhtwAUNpjdf8CAfoPAQAAABAAAABqVfwL 0cnTEYbcAFDaY3X/AgH7DwEAAACbAAAAAAAAADihuxAF5RAaobsIACsqVsIAAFBTVFBSWC5ETEwA AAAAAAAAAE5JVEH5v7gBAKoAN9luAAAAQzpcV0lOTlRcUHJvZmlsZXNcQWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvci4w MDBcTG9jYWwgU2V0dGluZ3NcQXBwbGljYXRpb24gRGF0YVxNaWNyb3NvZnRcT3V0bG9va1xvdXRs b29rLnBzdAAAAwD+DwUAAAADAA00/TcAAAIBfwABAAAALwAAADxOREJCSUdOTUdLQUZDR0dJS0VE R0VFRk5ESEFBLmZhcmxpbmdAYW9iLm9yZz4AAAMABhAAAAAAAwAHEAAAAAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAA AAAAHgAIEAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAPy0 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BFDF40.683C0C50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 8: 5:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au [24.192.3.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FD037B97B for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from a.reilly@lake.com.au) Received: from areilly.bpc-users.org (CPE-144-132-171-71.nsw.bigpond.net.au [144.132.171.71]) by sr14.nsw-remote.bigpond.net.au (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA22220 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:32:15 +1000 (EST) Received: (qmail 98387 invoked by uid 1000); 26 Jun 2000 12:32:14 -0000 From: "Andrew Reilly" Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:32:14 +1000 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000626223214.A98107@gurney.reilly.home> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > > And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by > > hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget* > > to update that master text. :-) > > I'm not sure I would *forget* it, but I my indulge in "forget"ing it. > :-) How about a couple of fields in the driver source itself, along the lines of http://publicsource.apple.com/projects/headerdoc/ If it's part of the source that the developers are working with, then it's more likely to stay "right". Of course we all know that comment bugs exist. -- Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 9:28:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B64837B9A6 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pst@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from pst@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA67134 for current; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pst@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200006261628.JAA67134@freefall.freebsd.org> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: -current snapshot 0526 sysinstall failure Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I haven't honestly debugged this one yet, so feel free to ignore me. Just a heads-up. I'm trying to install a new system using -current snapshot boot floppies. I boot the kernel, then I load the mfs root. Screen turns blue, no messages at all. (No probing for devices msg.) If I give a keypress (space or enter) andI get a message at the bottom of the screen saying that accessing md1 failed and the system is rebooting. Why would sysinstall be looking for md1?!? mfsroot is clearly loaded, since sysinstall ran... confused. Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10: 5: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B8037B902 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19515 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:04:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Make World is hosed... From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:04:47 +0200 Message-ID: <19513.962039087@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Who knows the cure for this ? ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) Perl lib version (v5.6.0) doesn't match executable version (5.00503) at Config.p m line 18. *** Error code 255 Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10: 5:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shale.csir.co.za (shale.csir.co.za [146.64.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8A737B902 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: from C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.12.58.155]) by shale.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA98104; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:04:58 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from reg@shale.csir.co.za) Received: (from reg@localhost) by C992631-A.pinol1.sfba.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA57814; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reg) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:04:52 -0700 From: Jeremy Lea To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for review: pkg_which. Message-ID: <20000626100452.D311@shale.csir.co.za> References: <20000626005659.B311@shale.csir.co.za> <44785.962015409@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <44785.962015409@axl.ops.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:30:09PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 12:30:09PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Argh, yet another pkg_* command that looks (at first glance anyway) like > it should have been implemented as a feature enhancement to the existing > pkg_* tools. > > What is it that makes this unsuitable for incorporation into the > existing tools? I thought about doing it within pkg_info, but it would mean changing the logic flow there a lot. Basically, pkg_info takes package names on the command line, and itterates over them. pkg_which takes file names, and (will) itterate over them. Also, pkg_which always operates on all of the installed packages, and never on packages which it must obtain via FTP. I don't see any reason to check a subset of packages, or to check packages which have not been installed. I've yet to implement a few features, one being support for multiple files (not difficult once things work for one). With this I can do things like: CHK_PLIST=`cat ${PLIST} | sed -e '/^@/d' -e 's#^#${PREFIX}#'` CONFLICTING_PACKAGES=`pkg_which ${CHK_PLIST}` if [ -n ${CONFLICT_PACKAGES} ]; then ${ECHO_MSG} "WARNING: This port will overwrite existing " \ "files installed by the following package(s): " \ ${CONFLICTING_PACAKGES} fi in bsd.port.mk. I also want to move most of the core logic into the pkg_install library, so that I can use it for pkg_add. My next task is an extension to pkg_add which will make it's dependency mechanism work like that for ports. It will look like this in the PLIST (to preserve compatability): @pkgdep glib-1.2.8 @comment libdep:glib12.3 Which I can add magic processing for into pkg_add, which will check for the existance of glib12.3 (via pkg_which -l) and work out that it might rather depend on an installed glib-1.2.7. Also, pkg_upgrade is going to need to know why packages depend on one another. Regards, -Jeremy -- FreeBSD - Because the best things in life are free... http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10: 6:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D6B37B902; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:06:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03148; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Jeremy Lea , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for review: pkg_which. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:30:09 +0200." <44785.962015409@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:06:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3145.962039195@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, I will say that pkg_info could get a lot more featureful than it is now without "exceeding its mandate." It would have been better than a profusion of tools. - Jordan > > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:57:00 MST, Jeremy Lea wrote: > > > I've placed the source for a new command, pkg_which, on > > http://people.freebsd.org/~reg/. > > Argh, yet another pkg_* command that looks (at first glance anyway) like > it should have been implemented as a feature enhancement to the existing > pkg_* tools. > > What is it that makes this unsuitable for incorporation into the > existing tools? > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10:25:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DBEA37BC25; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01050; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:09:45 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006261209.OAA01050@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: dfr@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <20000626020538.F14265@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20000626020538.F14265@dragon.nuxi.com> ; from "David O'Brien" "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:05:39 MST." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:09:45 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:35:12PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you > > either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel > > config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf > > Can't things be made to autoload random.ko as happens for if_fxp.ko when > I ifconfig it, or msdos.ko and procfs.ko when I mount them. I'd like to do this, but there is no "trigger" that can be hooked to do the work (mount and ifconfig can both do the work, but where do you hook a read(2) from /dev/random?) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10:25:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B22D37BCEE; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00957; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:43 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006261201.OAA00957@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Cc: markm@freebsd.org, Doug Barton , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vendor import of Perl 5.6 References: <20000626165335M.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20000626165335M.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> ; from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:53:35 +0900." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:01:43 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm not sure if this is correct, but I got through the perl build problem > with the following patch: I did something that is effectively the same. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10:30:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4484B37BCB3; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA47326; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:30:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006261730.TAA47326@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Make World is hosed... In-Reply-To: <19513.962039087@critter.freebsd.dk> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Jun 26, 2000 07:04:47 pm" To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:30:40 +0200 (CEST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Who knows the cure for this ? I do :) Rip out perl from the base system ... (ducks and runs) -Søren > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl > Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) > Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) > Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) > Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) > Perl lib version (v5.6.0) doesn't match executable version (5.00503) at Config.p > m line 18. > *** Error code 255 > > Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /syv/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10:46:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B4437BB2C for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:46:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id QAA55863 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:14:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA88707 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:14:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <002501bfdf78$f3b41c40$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" Cc: References: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626082516.C18421@bone.nectar.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:09:26 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How much does this "unrandomness" matter? How often are keys generated? If only once per program, then does it really matter if the keys are generated randomly or from my mothers maiden name? Leif ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques A . Vidrine" To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "Mark Murray" ; ; Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 3:25 PM Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! > On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 12:55:47PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > I don't know which applications depend on /dev/random providing entropy > > > > and which gather their own. > > SSH and SSL should not be used: PGP should be okay. > > FWIW, a quick look indicates: > > MIT Kerberos V gathers its own ``entropy'' when generating random > keys > > Heimdal uses /dev/random > > This matters in particular for creating keys for servers. Session keys > may or may not be a big deal, depending on the application. > -- > Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 10:49:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E071037BC3E; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA68349; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:42:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:42:49 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 08:40:44PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > > And we should keep that master text simple to ease modification by > > hackers. If we force to write complex markups, hackers will *forget* > > to update that master text. :-) > > I'm not sure I would *forget* it, but I my indulge in "forget"ing it. > :-) Typical, I've found the files I was looking for after I make the post. In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated from this XML file. As a developer, if you don't update the file the system won't even know about your driver (or option). N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:22:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.corp.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D5B37BC76 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A5D1CD7; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Chuck Robey Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: Message from Chuck Robey of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:29:12 EDT." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:22:07 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000626192208.02A5D1CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chuck Robey wrote: > device da0 at scbus 0 target 0 > device da1 at scbus 0 target 2 > device da2 at scbus 1 target 1 > > device cd0 at scbus? > device cd1 at scbus? Change 'scbus 0' to 'scbus0' and 'scbus 1' to 'scbus1' and the gethints.pl script will understand it. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:25:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gvr.gvr.org (gvr.gvr.org [194.151.74.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1C637BAE3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from guido@gvr.org) Received: by gvr.gvr.org (Postfix, from userid 657) id 3A2AFA85A; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:25:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:25:37 +0200 From: Guido van Rooij To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... Message-ID: <20000626212537.A51266@gvr.gvr.org> References: <20000613231829.2F4BF1CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20000624183247.A9232@mppsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <20000624183247.A9232@mppsystems.com>; from Mike Pritchard on Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 06:32:47PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 06:32:47PM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > > > Should this become: > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata > hint.ata.0.at="isa" > hint.ata.0.port="0x1F0" > hint.ata.0.irq="14" > hint.ata.1.at="isa" > hint.ata.1.port="0x170" > How about adding a hint to the hint driver itself. E.g. SYNOPSIS device isa device ata hint "hintsfile" # see hint(4) -Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:25:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766F337BAE3 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (root@rac5.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.145]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05486; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac5.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06393; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac5.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06389; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac5.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Peter Wemm Cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: Config problems In-Reply-To: <20000626192208.02A5D1CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG duh... that was too simple... :-) ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Peter Wemm wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > device da0 at scbus 0 target 0 > > device da1 at scbus 0 target 2 > > device da2 at scbus 1 target 1 > > > > device cd0 at scbus? > > device cd1 at scbus? > > Change 'scbus 0' to 'scbus0' and 'scbus 1' to 'scbus1' and the gethints.pl > script will understand it. > > Cheers, > -Peter > -- > Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au > "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:28:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (T1-Hansenet.BIK-GmbH.de [192.76.134.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0298A37BCDD; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.7.3) id VAA88172; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:27:57 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:27:57 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Message-ID: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> References: <20000626204154.A10544@cons.org> <200006261859.UAA99912@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org>; from cracauer@cons.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:19:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [CC'ed to current] In <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org>, Martin Cracauer wrote: > In <200006261859.UAA99912@grimreaper.grondar.za>, Mark Murray wrote: > > May I have a login on your build box to have a look? > > It would be more useful if you could put a log of your buildworld (at > least the perl-related parts) somewhere so I can look how EXTERN.h is > supposed to be built and where it ends up. Never mind, I'm now through it, this time my tree has hosed due to the testing I did earlier today. Message to others for bootstrapping: Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a world with the new perl in place. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:33: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B633D37BCAC; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA70567; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:31:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006261931.PAA70567@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Nick Hibma Cc: Mike Smith , FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List Subject: Re: irunning, width in bits. In-Reply-To: References: <200006260823.BAA00624@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > I guess that the perfect solution is to be able to hardwire the PCI irqs > in some way once FreeBSD is doing the PnP resource allocation. On typical non-SMP motherboards, the PCI IRQs are hard-wired on the motherboard. That is to say, INTA of slot 13 is wire-OR'd with INTB of slot 14, is wire-OR'd with INTC of slot 15, is wire-OR'd with INTD of slot 16, and oh, yeah, is also wire-OR'd with INTA of every on-motherboard device. SMP motherboards tend to be significantly better in this regard. The PCI BIOS includes a function which gives you the map of how interrupts are wired together. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:54:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from adventuresports.com (mail.adventuresports.com [209.249.141.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB17137B798 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from layne@barringtons.com) Received: (qmail 18557 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2000 20:00:47 -0000 Received: from 201.dsl7840.rcsis.com (HELO layne2.barringtons.com) (63.78.40.201) by 192.168.1.33 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2000 20:00:47 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000626125507.03a9d828@mail.barringtons.com> X-Sender: layne@mail.barringtons.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:55:22 -0700 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Layne Evans Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 12:57: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D1E37BAC8; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA69907; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:56:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA26243; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006261955.NAA26243@harmony.village.org> To: Martin Cracauer Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:27:57 +0200." <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> References: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> <20000626204154.A10544@cons.org> <200006261859.UAA99912@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:55:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> Martin Cracauer writes: : [CC'ed to current] : : In <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org>, Martin Cracauer wrote: : > In <200006261859.UAA99912@grimreaper.grondar.za>, Mark Murray wrote: : > > May I have a login on your build box to have a look? : > : > It would be more useful if you could put a log of your buildworld (at : > least the perl-related parts) somewhere so I can look how EXTERN.h is : > supposed to be built and where it ends up. : : Never mind, I'm now through it, this time my tree has hosed due to the : testing I did earlier today. : : Message to others for bootstrapping: : : Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, : build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a : world with the new perl in place. Does this mean that I need to add a ntoe to UPDATING? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13: 7:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [209.98.143.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9391A37B798 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:07:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [10.0.1.105]) by gw.nectar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEDB9B38; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:07:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bone.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8E941DC6; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:07:03 -0500 From: "Jacques A . Vidrine" To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! Message-ID: <20000626150703.A524@bone.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A . Vidrine" , Leif Neland , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006251512.RAA17563@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626082516.C18421@bone.nectar.com> <002501bfdf78$f3b41c40$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <002501bfdf78$f3b41c40$0e00a8c0@neland.dk>; from leifn@neland.dk on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:09:26PM +0200 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:09:26PM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > How much does this "unrandomness" matter? That's why I said `depending on the application'. It probably doesn't matter too much for a Kerberos session key that will be used for the duration of an ftp session. It definately matters if you just generated a keytab to use for your new server, and you use that key for the lifetime of your server (not atypical). > How often are keys generated? If only once per program, then does it really > matter if the keys are generated randomly or from my mothers maiden name? Consult Schroedinger's cat. Maybe it only `matters' if someone is looking for weak keys in your environment. :-) -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13: 8:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492A837BD74; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07311; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:08:58 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Martin Cracauer Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) References: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> ; from Martin Cracauer "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:27:57 +0200." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:08:58 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Message to others for bootstrapping: > > Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, > build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a > world with the new perl in place. Now you can colour me flummoxed. :-(. Have you a script(1) of that? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:11:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819B337BCED; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12374; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:53 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: Warner Losh Cc: Martin Cracauer , Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Message-ID: <20000626221052.A12349@cons.org> References: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> <20000626204154.A10544@cons.org> <200006261859.UAA99912@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000626211914.A87773@cons.org> <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> <200006261955.NAA26243@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006261955.NAA26243@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 01:55:00PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <200006261955.NAA26243@harmony.village.org>, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> Martin Cracauer writes: > : [CC'ed to current] > : Message to others for bootstrapping: > : > : Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, > : build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a > : world with the new perl in place. > > Does this mean that I need to add a ntoe to UPDATING? I rather think that it should be fixed. Imagine going from 4-stable to 5-current: in that case you probably can't build the 20000624 version manually due to other reasons. Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path adjustments. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:16:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from knight.cons.org (knight.cons.org [194.233.237.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D4837BC21; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@knight.cons.org) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by knight.cons.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12429; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:15:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:15:44 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: Mark Murray Cc: Martin Cracauer , current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Message-ID: <20000626221544.B12349@cons.org> References: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:08:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za>, Mark Murray wrote: > > Message to others for bootstrapping: > > > > Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, > > build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a > > world with the new perl in place. > > Now you can colour me flummoxed. :-(. > > Have you a script(1) of that? Sorry, my -current box is now through it. If I'm not mistaken, all open problems are like "Perl lib version (v5.6.0) doesn't match executable version (5.00503) at Config.pm line 18." That should be easy to reproduce on your development system by just copying an old /usr/bin/perl executable to it and trying to build. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:28:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1837BD54; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:28:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26199; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:28:53 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006262028.WAA26199@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Martin Cracauer Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) References: <20000626221052.A12349@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <20000626221052.A12349@cons.org> ; from Martin Cracauer "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:10:53 +0200." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:28:53 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the > last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the > other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path > adjustments. The problem here is that miniperl needs to be built early enough to be in the path perl "proper" is done. I thought build-tools was the answer; sadly that seems to be wrong. Now I'm looking at cross-tools (out of src/makefile.inc1). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:29:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cypherpunks.ai (cypherpunks.ai [209.88.68.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC2C37BCAD; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroen@vangelderen.org) Received: from vangelderen.org (grolsch.ai [209.88.68.214]) by cypherpunks.ai (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36464D; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:29:37 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: <3957BD31.633CF3D2@vangelderen.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:29:37 -0400 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <200006260603.IAA20922@grimreaper.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > Some days is OK, imho. Much more than that and I'd begin to worry. > > > Much more than a week or two and I'd worry a lot. I'll go put a note > > > in updating right now. > > > > That's okay with me too. People should just not upgrade their work > > machines for the next few days until entropy is fixed. > > Upgrading is fine; just don't build certificates/credentials. Upgrading is *not* fine. Everything that uses high-quality randomness is broken. This includes SSH, PGP, GnuPG, Apache/SSL random pid generation and what not. No, upgrading is not fine at all. Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen o _ _ _ jeroen@vangelderen.org _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:30:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD76037BE50; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26308; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:30:09 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006262030.WAA26308@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Martin Cracauer Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) References: <20000626221544.B12349@cons.org> In-Reply-To: <20000626221544.B12349@cons.org> ; from Martin Cracauer "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:15:44 +0200." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:30:09 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If I'm not mistaken, all open problems are like "Perl lib version > (v5.6.0) doesn't match executable version (5.00503) at Config.pm line > 18." Hmm... > That should be easy to reproduce on your development system by just > copying an old /usr/bin/perl executable to it and trying to build. What bothers me is how other boxes managed to get past this point. I think there may be a race... M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:56:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898A737B865; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA03050; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200006262056.WAA03050@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/ In-Reply-To: <200006262030.WAA26308@grimreaper.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jun 26, 2000 10:30:09 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:56:16 +0200 (CEST) Cc: cracauer@cons.org (Martin Cracauer), current@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Mark Murray wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, all open problems are like "Perl lib version > > (v5.6.0) doesn't match executable version (5.00503) at Config.pm line > > 18." > > Hmm... > > > That should be easy to reproduce on your development system by just > > copying an old /usr/bin/perl executable to it and trying to build. > > What bothers me is how other boxes managed to get past this point. > I think there may be a race... I know of no boxes that made it past that point :( -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 14: 4:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C0337BD0F; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:04:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA70359; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:03:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA27601; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006262102.PAA27601@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, dgl@bsdi.com, jim@cdrom.com, papowell@astart.com, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, ceren@magnesium.net, ryan@ryan.net, murray@bsdi.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:58:03 -0000." <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:02:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another : could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ. There's some problems witht his. the ed driver supports a whole raft of cards, but who can list them all? Other than that, I like the idea. There's a real, pressing need to know if pccard FOO-bar is supported or is known to work or not in the current version. The PAO folks did a great job with this in their lists of cards known to work. Figuring out how to setup a database with all of this information is going to be tricky. The Japanese nomads were talking about this at one point, and if they come up with someting for pccard, it could likely be extended to all types of cards. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 14: 6:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DBD37BD03 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20402; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA02376; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Message-ID: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20000626221052.A12349@cons.org> <200006262028.WAA26199@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006262028.WAA26199@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:28:53PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:28:53PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the > > last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the > > other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path > > adjustments. > > The problem here is that miniperl needs to be built early enough > to be in the path perl "proper" is done. > > I thought build-tools was the answer; sadly that seems to be wrong. > Now I'm looking at cross-tools (out of src/makefile.inc1). Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used throughout the build and install stages. Note that bootstrap-tools are built (and installed under /obj) to be run on the host. This means that miniperl is going to be built a second time for the target architecture. The bootstrap-tools stage is designed to solve incompatibilities caused by versions of tools installed on the system and the requirements (for newer ones) by the source-tree. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 14: 8:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B020937B5E8; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA70395; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:08:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA27655; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:06:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006262106.PAA27655@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:42:49 BST." <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:06:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files : in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated : from this XML file. As a developer, if you don't update the file the : system won't even know about your driver (or option). I'm not sure how well this would work. Modules already obviate the need to update stuff in sys/conf. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 14:41:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.elp.rr.com (ns1.elp.rr.com [24.92.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4221937B5E1 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greydel@elp.rr.com) Received: from greydelcomp (dt02q1nf6.elp.rr.com [24.92.110.246]) by mail.elp.rr.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04723 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:41:44 -0600 (MDT) From: "Robert Delgado" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:40:15 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUBSCRIBE greydel@elp.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 15:10:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.networkrichmond.com (kronos.networkrichmond.com [64.240.180.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BACE37B6DB for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) X-Provider: Network Richmond, LLC. http://www.networkrichmond.com/ Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by kronos.networkrichmond.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with ESMTP id SAA40564 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly Yancey X-Sender: kbyanc@kronos.networkrichmond.com To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel breakage? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On a just-supped -current I am seeing: make: don't know how to make ../../dev/nulldev/nulldev.c. Stop on kernel builds (even GENERIC). Kelly -- Kelly Yancey - kbyanc@posi.net - Belmont, CA System Administrator, eGroups.com http://www.egroups.com/ Maintainer, BSD Driver Database http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/ Coordinator, Team FreeBSD http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 15:21:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.networkrichmond.com (kronos.networkrichmond.com [64.240.180.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C61137BDB8 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) X-Provider: Network Richmond, LLC. http://www.networkrichmond.com/ Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by kronos.networkrichmond.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with ESMTP id SAA40750 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:21:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly Yancey X-Sender: kbyanc@kronos.networkrichmond.com To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel breakage? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Kelly Yancey wrote: > > On a just-supped -current I am seeing: > > make: don't know how to make ../../dev/nulldev/nulldev.c. Stop > > on kernel builds (even GENERIC). > Nevermind, pilot error :( -- Kelly Yancey - kbyanc@posi.net - Belmont, CA System Administrator, eGroups.com http://www.egroups.com/ Maintainer, BSD Driver Database http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/ Coordinator, Team FreeBSD http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 15:43:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2604A37BD39 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04849; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Robert Delgado" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: subscribe In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:40:15 MDT." Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:43:47 -0700 Message-ID: <4846.962059427@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > SUBSCRIBE greydel@elp.rr.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message If you're receiving this message, it's because you just sent a "subscribe" message erroneously to one of our mailing lists, resulting in thousands (and, in some cases, tens of thousands) of people seeing a "subscribe me" message in their mailboxes when they have absolutely nothing to do with the process of adding users like yourself to our mailing lists. This is a poor introduction, at best, and what we really suggest to people is that they read our mailing list FAQ at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL Paying particular attention to section 27.1.2: "How to subscribe." 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Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 18:56:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CC337B563 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id DAA79102 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:56:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27225 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:56:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:56:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Another way perl build is broken Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doing a make world, even after completely removing /usr/obj cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools mkdir: lib/auto: File exists *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. gina/usr/src # exit Script done on Tue Jun 27 01:52:51 2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 19:24:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from front.linuxcare.com.au (linuxcare.com.au [203.29.91.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D1137BAAD for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:24:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com ([203.17.0.42]) by front.linuxcare.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA08617; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:24:44 +1000 X-Authentication-Warning: front.linuxcare.com.au: Host [203.17.0.42] claimed to be sydney.worldwide.lemis.com Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05483; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:05:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:05:35 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Robert Delgado , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: subscribe Message-ID: <20000627120535.C5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <4846.962059427@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <4846.962059427@localhost> Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 15:43:47 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> SUBSCRIBE greydel@elp.rr.com >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > If you're receiving this message, it's because you just sent a > "subscribe" message erroneously to one of our mailing lists, resulting > in thousands (and, in some cases, tens of thousands) of people seeing > a "subscribe me" message in their mailboxes when they have absolutely > nothing to do with the process of adding users like yourself to our > mailing lists. Nope. Somehow I got copied on this message, though I'm damned if I know why. The real issue is that you're telling the wrong person (with one exception). I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to catch these messages and DWHM. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 23: 7:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DD937B5B2; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA54558; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:08:16 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006270608.IAA54558@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) References: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> ; from "David O'Brien" "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:06:15 MST." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:08:15 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I thought build-tools was the answer; sadly that seems to be wrong. > > Now I'm looking at cross-tools (out of src/makefile.inc1). > > Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the > installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't > have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used > throughout the build and install stages. What you say supports the theory that build-tools is the answer; however build-tools seems to want to do an in-place build - not to install the tool(s) somewhere into the path like cross-tools. I'm in trouble with cross-tools because libraries are not available :-(. > Note that bootstrap-tools are built (and installed under /obj) to be run > on the host. This means that miniperl is going to be built a second time > for the target architecture. The bootstrap-tools stage is designed to > solve incompatibilities caused by versions of tools installed on the > system and the requirements (for newer ones) by the source-tree. OK - I'll try again fro build-tools. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 23:18: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005C937B99A for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:18:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06378; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: Greg Lehey Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Robert Delgado , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: subscribe In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:05:35 +1000." <20000627120535.C5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:18:31 -0700 Message-ID: <6375.962086711@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I somehow cc'd the mailing list on this then I made a mistake which I don't usually make. These messages, when I'm watching the headers correctly, are always sent privately. - Jordan > On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 15:43:47 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >> SUBSCRIBE greydel@elp.rr.com > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > > If you're receiving this message, it's because you just sent a > > "subscribe" message erroneously to one of our mailing lists, resulting > > in thousands (and, in some cases, tens of thousands) of people seeing > > a "subscribe me" message in their mailboxes when they have absolutely > > nothing to do with the process of adding users like yourself to our > > mailing lists. > > Nope. Somehow I got copied on this message, though I'm damned if I > know why. > > The real issue is that you're telling the wrong person (with one > exception). I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to catch these > messages and DWHM. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 23:19:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E84037B8D0 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22747; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA96294; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:19:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) Message-ID: <20000626231915.A96251@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> <200006270608.IAA54558@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006270608.IAA54558@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:08:15AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:08:15AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > What you say supports the theory that build-tools is the answer; however > build-tools seems to want to do an in-place build - not to install the > tool(s) somewhere into the path like cross-tools. I'm in trouble with > cross-tools because libraries are not available :-(. It is possible the Perl build Makefiles have a slight bogon that prevents things from working properly in this stage? > > Note that bootstrap-tools are built (and installed under /obj) to be run > > OK - I'll try again fro build-tools. I tried that (on my Alpha). Same breakage. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 23:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CEB37BE86; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA54805; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:38:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006270638.IAA54805@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Makefile.inc src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl Makefile src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl Makefile) References: <20000626231915.A96251@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20000626231915.A96251@dragon.nuxi.com> ; from "David O'Brien" "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:19:15 MST." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:38:27 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It is possible the Perl build Makefiles have a slight bogon that prevents > things from working properly in this stage? :-) Uh Huh! > > > Note that bootstrap-tools are built (and installed under /obj) to be run > > > > OK - I'll try again fro build-tools. > > I tried that (on my Alpha). Same breakage. Erm - I meant I'll try to use (and fix) build-tools instead of cross-tools. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 0:58:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B873537B720 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdinolt@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([63.199.31.99]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWS00L37Z4K7B@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:51:07 -0700 From: "George W. Dinolt" Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... To: current@freebsd.org, mark@grondar.za Message-id: <39585CEA.423F53CB@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have found that the following small diff to /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 allows the buildworld to proceed: *** Makefile.inc1~ Mon Jun 26 23:00:54 2000 --- Makefile.inc1 Mon Jun 26 23:27:05 2000 *************** *** 123,129 **** WORLDTMP= ${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/${BUILD_ARCH} # /usr/games added for fortune which depend on strfile STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/usr/sbin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games ! TMPPATH= ${STRICTTMPPATH}:${PATH} # # Building a world goes through the following stages --- 123,129 ---- WORLDTMP= ${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/${BUILD_ARCH} # /usr/games added for fortune which depend on strfile STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/usr/sbin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games ! TMPPATH= ${STRICTTMPPATH}:${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl:${PATH} # # Building a world goes through the following stages This is probably only a temporary fix and is not the right approach, but it does illustrate that the problem is that the miniperl from /usr/bin/miniperl was being called by the /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile.inc and not the one built during the buildworld. Since "miniperl" is referenced in the perl/Makefile.inc either one has to "hardcode" the version of miniperl, i.e. include the path of the version of miniperl for each reference in that makefile, or one should install miniperl someplace in ${WORLDTMP} which is included in the path. The former appears to be more in the spirit of "build-tools" since these "tools' do not install their targets. They assume that the targets operate in place. The later (installing miniperl inside of ${WORLDTMP) would require an update to the build-tools target in perl/miniperl. Maybe none of the above is the correct approach, but these are some ideas. Regards, George Dinolt Note: My buildworld has not completed as I write this but it has gotten through the bootstrap and makedepends part of the perl build and I need to get to bed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 1:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A6137BF19 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from usern061.uk.uudial.com ([193.149.81.94] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 136r3d-0004Xi-00 ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:49:25 +0100 Message-ID: <39586B30.1783DB60@alveley.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:52:00 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George W. Dinolt" Cc: current@freebsd.org, mark@grondar.za Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... References: <39585CEA.423F53CB@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RBL-Warning: (dul.maps.vix.com) See Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "George W. Dinolt" wrote: > > I have found that the following small diff to /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > allows the buildworld to proceed: > It breaks further down the line when building /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl, with the following message: lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a(DynaLoader.o): In function `SaveError': DynaLoader.o(.text+0x1e2): undefined reference to `Perl_vmess' This is with PERL_THREADED=true. PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 2:17:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.online.ie (mail.online.ie [213.159.130.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B598837BF3E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:17:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bofh@online.ie) Received: (qmail 29682 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 09:17:19 -0000 Received: from eth3.web2.www.online.ie (HELO web2.www.online.ie) (10.10.3.33) by eth3.mail1.mail.online.ie with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 09:17:19 -0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by web2.www.online.ie id KAA03132 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:17:19 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: web2.www.online.ie: nobody set sender to bofh@online.ie using -f Message-ID: <962097439.3958711f4042f@mail.online.ie> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:17:19 +0100 To: From: Sascha "Lucky" Luck Subject: coldsync - Visor kernel panic / bug #17961 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.0-pre10 X-Originating-IP: 194.125.130.115 X-SentBy: online.ie Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, what is the story with this bug? (If you want a hand with testing patches, etc., please drop me a mail) I'm running 5.0-CURRENT (Jun 20) Hardware: Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: usb0: on uhci0 Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1. 00, addr 1 Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub1: vendor 0x0698 product 0x9999, class 9/1, re v 1.00/0.01, addr 2 Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub1: 5 ports with 4 removable, self powered Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhid0: vendor 0x0698 product 0x1786, rev 1.00/0.01 , addr 3, iclass 3/0 and the Visor: Jun 26 17:13:43 bofh /kernel: ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4 Thanks in advance, s. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 2:32:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mppsystems.com (mppsystems.com [208.210.148.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F13D37BED4 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mppsystems.com) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mppsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23309; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:29:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:29:00 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard To: Guido van Rooij Cc: Peter Wemm , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP!: config changes... Message-ID: <20000627042900.A22797@mppsystems.com> References: <20000613231829.2F4BF1CD7@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20000624183247.A9232@mppsystems.com> <20000626212537.A51266@gvr.gvr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000626212537.A51266@gvr.gvr.org>; from guido@gvr.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:25:37PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:25:37PM +0200, Guido van Rooij wrote: > > How about adding a hint to the hint driver itself. E.g. > > SYNOPSIS > device isa > device ata > hint "hintsfile" # see hint(4) I don't think this is enough. If I botch my hints file enough (and lets say I fat finger some other files in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf. Been there, done that, so lets just assume that it will happen to other people), I should be able to figure out what I need to configure a device from the on-line man-pages. How about something like this: SYNOPSIS device isa device ata hints "hintsfile" # see hints(4) For ata devices on the isa bus, the hint file must contain: the bus that the device resides on (isa), the I/O port and IRQ. For the primary controller, port IO_WD1 and IRQ 14 are used. For the secondary controller, port IO_WD2 and IRQ 15 are used. Maybe the descriptive text could be replaced with something like: See the main text for a description of bus/port/IRQ/flag assignments. And then the main text would include something similar to what I typed above. Then hints(4) could tell the user the syntax they actually have to use and how to use it. If the syntax changes, then we only have to update the generic hints(4). From looking at "NOTES", mostly ISA devices are affected. ppc/scsi/miibus seem to be the other devices (plus another oddball or two). I think as long as we can decide how to provide the needed information in the device specific man pages, this shouldn't be too hard to actually sit down and do. Then someone also has to sit down and write hints(4) to back it all up :-). -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 2:38:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940DF37BF30; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136rpE-000JtT-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:38:36 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World is hosed... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:04:47 +0200." <19513.962039087@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:38:36 +0200 Message-ID: <76474.962098716@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:04:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Who knows the cure for this ? Mark's busy working on it. You shouldn't have to wait too much longer now. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 8: 5:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cartier.cirx.org (cartier.cirx.org [211.72.15.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D12D37C152 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clive@cartier.cirx.org) Received: (from clive@localhost) by cartier.cirx.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA21221 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:04:57 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from clive) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:04:56 +0800 From: Clive Lin To: FreeBSD current Subject: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> Reply-To: Clive Lin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Here is the diff for badsect(8) to recognize character device (IFCHR) rather than block device (IFBLK), since there's no block device in current. I don't know if there's any difference bewteen block and character device. So, I surly don't know if this will screw up any disk. But, it just works for me... hm.. I don't want to buy a new ata66 disk to replace the old one, because my motherboard has only ata33 :-) The old disk stores ports, src, obj, doc and some other data that could be retrived back at any time. After makeing some large ports and the whole doc/, I luckly see no more the HARD READ ERROR blk# ... messages. Though, this doesn't mean this diff is right. May someone knows hard drive devices well take a look at it ? Thanks. Regards, Clive -- CirX - This site doesnt' exist. 9c k9o h9 s1bg s1f, 7v .y xqx a sj m8r ffg1 vg5 a6 asox tmul h38 . ant sj m8r ob ? 1fj mwby a1 tao vg5. soq df v ' .a. CirX. --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=bdiff --- badsect.c~ Tue Jun 27 22:30:57 2000 +++ badsect.c Tue Jun 27 22:17:30 2000 @@ -118,11 +118,12 @@ err(3, "%s", name); name_dir_end = name + strlen(name); while ((dp = readdir(dirp)) != NULL) { + if (dp->d_name[0]!='r') continue ; // look for /dev/r* only strcpy(name_dir_end, dp->d_name); if (lstat(name, &devstat) < 0) err(4, "%s", name); if (stbuf.st_dev == devstat.st_rdev && - (devstat.st_mode & IFMT) == IFBLK) + (devstat.st_mode & IFMT) == IFCHR) break; } closedir(dirp); @@ -135,8 +136,9 @@ * Opening of a mounted on device is not allowed. * Attempt to open the raw device instead. */ - memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); - *name_dir_end = 'r'; + // un-needed. + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; if ((fsi = open(name, O_RDONLY)) < 0) err(6, "%s", name); fs = &sblock; --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 8:21:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688BB37C044 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-202.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.202]) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA40892 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:21:11 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have 5 machines running current. All are booting fine with the changes made on June 12, with the exception of a k-6 laptop. I have been booting the kernel.works since the changes and can't seem to get something right. I have tried with my original kernel configuration and now have been trying with the GENERIC configuration and GENERIC.hints. When I try to boot with my new kernel I get: BTX loader 1.0 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive B: is disk1 BIOS 639kB/97280kB available memory FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 root@casa.local.net Mon June 26 12:37:44 PDT 2000 int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 System halted I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks, ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 8:39:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.silyn-tek.de (mout1.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5356F37C061 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.34] (helo=mx2.silyn-tek.de) by mout1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136xRP-000435-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:23 +0200 Received: from p3e9c1133.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.156.17.51] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx2.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136xRM-0002pO-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:20 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39ECAC27; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F34DB14AB3; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:38:21 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Clive Lin Cc: FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Clive Lin , FreeBSD current References: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org>; from clive@CirX.ORG on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:04:56PM +0800 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Clive Lin (clive@CirX.ORG): > - memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > - *name_dir_end = 'r'; > + // un-needed. > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; Use /* */ comments or #if 0. Please see style(9) :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 9: 8: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bugg.strangled.net (c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com [24.2.137.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A659B37C09D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:07:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugg@bugg.strangled.net) Received: (from bugg@localhost) by bugg.strangled.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03828; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:08:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bugg) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:08:55 -0400 From: Dan Papasian To: Alexander Langer Cc: Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> References: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com>; from alex@big.endian.de on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 05:38:21PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 05:38:21PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Clive Lin (clive@CirX.ORG): > > > - memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > - *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > + // un-needed. > > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > Use /* */ comments or #if 0. Actually, there was just a discussion on comp.lang.c about how they aren't interchangable. The 'un-needed' part will have to be commented with /* */ because the preprocessor will parse tokens before it evaluates conditionals. Fairly interesting read, but the majority of you probably knew that anyway :) > Please see style(9) :) I don't see style(9) referring to using #if 0, but that's ok :) -Dan > Alex > > -- > cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 9:16:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.silyn-tek.de (mout1.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ECC37C094 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.33] (helo=mx1.silyn-tek.de) by mout1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136y0I-0004DY-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:26 +0200 Received: from p3e9c1133.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.156.17.51] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 136y0G-0002XG-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:25 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D74AC27; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7212814AB3; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:31 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Dan Papasian Cc: Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current References: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com>; from bugg@bugg.strangled.net on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 12:08:55PM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Dan Papasian (bugg@bugg.strangled.net): > > > + // un-needed. > > > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > Use /* */ comments or #if 0. > Actually, there was just a discussion on comp.lang.c about how > they aren't interchangable. The 'un-needed' part will have > to be commented with /* */ because the preprocessor will > parse tokens before it evaluates conditionals. Could you explain that paragraph? I really can't figure out what you try to say or what it has to do with my comment, respectively :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 9:19:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sv01.geocities.co.jp (sv01.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C180937BA7E; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@geocities.co.jp) Received: from mail.geocities.co.jp (mail.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.137]) by sv01.geocities.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id BAA18512; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:19:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.hrs.jp (sutnmax2-ppp33.ed.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.173.103]) by mail.geocities.co.jp (1.3G-GeocitiesJ-3.3) with ESMTP id BAA25205; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:19:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> Received: from localhost (alph.hrs.jp [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrs.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id XAA35233; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:49:36 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@hrs.jp) To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:49:34 +0900 From: Hiroki Sato X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 48 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote in <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>: > [ That schema is not set in stone, and certainly requires more work. In > particular, we probably need "lang" and "encoding" options on the > element, to support comments in more than one language. ] > > LINT would then become a skeletal file for things which don't fit this > sort of pattern, and the full LINT would be generated by a script which > parsed the above and the skeletal file to generate the full LINT. I think it is difficult to maintain the files because few editors can handle various languages/encodings at the same time. So, especially for translators, it is better that the .xml files are separated on a encoding/language basis. However, separated .xml files according to encoding/language like FreeBSD Handbook also cause another problem. If these files are used to create actual configuration files as not only doc or advisory purpose, translated .xml files but are not synchronized with English version can be more harmful. For instance, the out-dated translation couldn't create an appropriate LINT, so non-English readers cannot know modifications in the original file. Thus, configuration items that don't need to translate should be common, and others such as description field that can be translated should be separated, and it is better that latter separated .xml files (i.e. translated one) have a additional marker that indicates whether a file is synch'ed with the original version or not. Nik Clayton wrote in <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>: > The aim is that we have one file that describes the drivers -- this file > will be used by us to keep the documentation up to date, but it will also > be used by the system -- if the driver writer doesn't update this file then > the system won't know about their driver, and won't build it. They'll *have* > to keep it up to date. One file...why? A port in Ports Collection depends on some files not one file, but it works fine. I think we can maintain more easily several small files than big one file. -- | Hiroki Sato/HRS | | j7397067@ed.noda.sut.ac.jp(univ) | hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org(FreeBSD doc-jp Project) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 9:50:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bastard.co.uk (node16292.a2000.nl [24.132.98.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D10437C079 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@bastard.co.uk) Received: from adrian by mail.bastard.co.uk with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 136yYo-000FOr-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:50:06 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:50:06 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw check-state and ipfw fwd ? Message-ID: <20000627185006.D58428@zoe.bastard.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have a tunnel setup which requires me to rewrite the next hop of packets going from the tunneled network out to the internet to go out via the tunnel (rather than going out the default route, who drops the packets (validly) because it thinks I'm trying to IP spoof.) The trouble is that I'm also trying to use a dynamic ipfw rule to only allow outgoing TCP connections from a single IP .. this doesn't seem to work well with ipfw fwd. The relevant bits: 00100 0 0 check-state 00200 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00300 0 0 deny ip from any to 203.56.168.40 in recv tun0 00400 2 88 allow tcp from 203.56.168.40 to any keep-state setup (the three going in here are totally not relevant) 00800 0 0 fwd 213.35.234.1 ip from 203.56.168.0/24 to any out xmit xl1 65000 195 15257 allow ip from any to any 65535 50 7996 allow ip from any to any ## Dynamic rules: 00400 1 44 (T 5, # 163) ty 0 tcp, 203.56.168.40 1161 <-> 203.30.44.82 80 As you can see, the dynamic rule gets created, but I'm not entirely certain its being trapped on the fwd rule, as a tcpdump of the external interface xl1 shows the packet going out rather than being forwarded to 213.35.234.1 (the tunnel interface endpoint). Any clues? Is the dynamic rulesets not meant to do this at all? Is there a way I can trick things into working? Thanks, Adrian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 9:58:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bastard.co.uk (node16292.a2000.nl [24.132.98.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F352037C0CA for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@bastard.co.uk) Received: from adrian by mail.bastard.co.uk with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 136ygr-000FQC-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:58:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:58:25 +0200 From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw check-state and ipfw fwd ? Message-ID: <20000627185825.E58428@zoe.bastard.co.uk> References: <20000627185006.D58428@zoe.bastard.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000627185006.D58428@zoe.bastard.co.uk>; from adrian@freebsd.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:50:06PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a tunnel setup which requires me to rewrite the next hop of packets > going from the tunneled network out to the internet to go out via the > tunnel (rather than going out the default route, who drops the packets > (validly) because it thinks I'm trying to IP spoof.) > > The trouble is that I'm also trying to use a dynamic ipfw rule to only > allow outgoing TCP connections from a single IP .. this doesn't seem > to work well with ipfw fwd. > > The relevant bits: > > 00100 0 0 check-state > 00200 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 > 00300 0 0 deny ip from any to 203.56.168.40 in recv tun0 > 00400 2 88 allow tcp from 203.56.168.40 to any keep-state setup > (the three going in here are totally not relevant) > 00800 0 0 fwd 213.35.234.1 ip from 203.56.168.0/24 to any out xmit xl1 > 65000 195 15257 allow ip from any to any > 65535 50 7996 allow ip from any to any > ## Dynamic rules: > 00400 1 44 (T 5, # 163) ty 0 tcp, 203.56.168.40 1161 <-> 203.30.44.82 80 > > As you can see, the dynamic rule gets created, but I'm not entirely > certain its being trapped on the fwd rule, as a tcpdump of the external > interface xl1 shows the packet going out rather than being forwarded > to 213.35.234.1 (the tunnel interface endpoint). > > Any clues? Is the dynamic rulesets not meant to do this at all? Is there > a way I can trick things into working? Before you all say it, changing 0400's allow to skipto made things work. Evil, but its working just fine. :) 00100 0 0 check-state 00200 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00300 1 44 deny ip from any to 203.56.168.40 in recv tun0 00400 14 576 skipto 5000 tcp from 203.56.168.40 to any keep-state setup 05000 5 437 fwd 213.35.234.1 ip from 203.56.168.0/24 to any out xmit xl1 65000 2163 169947 allow ip from any to any 65535 55 8503 allow ip from any to any ## Dynamic rules: 00400 13 532 (T 0, # 167) ty 0 tcp, 203.56.168.40 1165 <-> 203.30.44.82 80 Adrian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 10:29:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interware.hu (mail.interware.hu [195.70.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D17137BAB2 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from luanda-52.budapest.interware.hu ([195.70.51.52] helo=jules.elischer.org) by mail.interware.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 136zQA-0006KU-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:45:14 +0200 Message-ID: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:29:25 -0700 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Huh? ssh stopped working with new kernel. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So I cvsupped yesterday, and tehn made a new kernel. so suddenly ssh doesn't work any more. it says: jules# ssh www.elischer.org ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Disabling protocol version 1 Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 jules# luckily /usr/local/bin/ssh was still there and still works..... (same if ssh-ing to freefall as well). I decided maybe marks broken urandom may be the prolem but making it a symlink to /dev/random didn't help.. jules# ls -l /dev/*rand* crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2, 3 Jun 27 10:26 /dev/random lrwx------ 1 root wheel 6 Jun 27 10:26 /dev/urandom -> random jules# Any suggestions.. it worked this morning and I have NOT changed any user programs/libraries.... -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 )_.---._/ presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 10:38: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825ED37BE71 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:38:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13299 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra G To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Questions about kmem_malloc and SPL levels Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The comment leading into kmem_malloc (in sys/vm/vm_kern.c) is worrying me: * This routine has its own private kernel submap (kmem_map) and object * (kmem_object). This, combined with the fact that only malloc uses * this routine, ensures that we will never block in map or object waits. Actually, this function is called by m_clalloc (in sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c) too. The comment is obviously wrong. Is it a problem that this assumption is violated? * Note that this still only works in a uni-processor environment and * when called at splhigh(). The first part will be news to the folks running SMP. :-) The business about splhigh is also wrong. But what worries me is that malloc calls it at splmem, while m_clalloc calls it at splimp. Is that a problem? John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 10:45:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC3037C152 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA74489; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:45:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:45:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006271745.NAA74489@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Josef Karthauser Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/softupdates softdep.h ffs_softdep.c In-Reply-To: <20000627172831.G32373@pavilion.net> References: <200006220029.RAA97417@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000621223309.G47446@argon.gryphonsoft.com> <86g0q6gw5x.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> <20000627172831.G32373@pavilion.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Redirected.] < said: > I'm not sure.... I have a feeling that there are softupdate problems > running under SMP. A number of times this year I've lost whole filesystems > on an SMP machines. :( $ uptime 1:41PM up 34 days, 23:46, 1 user, load averages: 3.54, 3.72, 3.65 $ uname -a FreeBSD xyz.lcs.mit.edu 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #21: Sat Apr 1 14:14:07 EST 2000 root@xyz.lcs.mit.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/XYZ i386 $ mount | grep /w /dev/da3s4h on /w (ufs, local, soft-updates, writes: sync 41800 async 9457537, reads: sync 232275876 async 8030426) (This is the Cheetah 9LP on which cvsup3.freebsd.org pounds 24x7.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 10:46:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D34F37C13F for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5RHk6m26624; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:46:06 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: John Polstra G Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions about kmem_malloc and SPL levels Message-ID: <20000627104606.L275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from jdp@polstra.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:37:56AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * John Polstra G [000627 10:38] wrote: > The comment leading into kmem_malloc (in sys/vm/vm_kern.c) is > worrying me: > > * This routine has its own private kernel submap (kmem_map) and object > * (kmem_object). This, combined with the fact that only malloc uses > * this routine, ensures that we will never block in map or object waits. > > Actually, this function is called by m_clalloc (in > sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c) too. The comment is obviously wrong. Is it a > problem that this assumption is violated? > > * Note that this still only works in a uni-processor environment and > * when called at splhigh(). > > The first part will be news to the folks running SMP. :-) The business > about splhigh is also wrong. But what worries me is that malloc calls > it at splmem, while m_clalloc calls it at splimp. Is that a problem? The comment is wrong, the idea is that only network interupts are expected to play with the mbmap, therefore we only need to block network interrupts during mbuf allocation. The general malloc pool can be accessed from any interrupt and therefore needs protection at splhigh. If there were 'diskbufs' and they had thier own private map then you'd only really need splbio wrapped around the call. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 11: 9:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8557737C163 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:09:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA80673; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:42:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006271242.OAA80673@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Dampure, Pierre Y." Cc: "George W. Dinolt" , current@FreeBSD.org, mark@grondar.za Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... References: <39586B30.1783DB60@alveley.org> In-Reply-To: <39586B30.1783DB60@alveley.org> ; from "Dampure, Pierre Y." "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:52:00 +0100." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:42:50 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It breaks further down the line when building > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl, with the following message: > > lib/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a(DynaLoader.o): In function `SaveError': > DynaLoader.o(.text+0x1e2): undefined reference to `Perl_vmess' This is a library problem, and I have nearly fixed it. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 11:10: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5519237C1A4 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA55386; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:55:55 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006270855.KAA55386@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "George W. Dinolt" Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... References: <39585CEA.423F53CB@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <39585CEA.423F53CB@pacbell.net> ; from "George W. Dinolt" "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:51:07 MST." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:55:54 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Thanks - this is the line that I am working on; your debugging is valuable!! M > I have found that the following small diff to /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 > allows the buildworld to proceed: > > *** Makefile.inc1~ Mon Jun 26 23:00:54 2000 > --- Makefile.inc1 Mon Jun 26 23:27:05 2000 > *************** > *** 123,129 **** > WORLDTMP= ${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/${BUILD_ARCH} > # /usr/games added for fortune which depend on strfile > STRICTTMPPATH= > ${WORLDTMP}/usr/sbin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games > ! TMPPATH= ${STRICTTMPPATH}:${PATH} > > # > # Building a world goes through the following stages > --- 123,129 ---- > WORLDTMP= ${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/${BUILD_ARCH} > # /usr/games added for fortune which depend on strfile > STRICTTMPPATH= > ${WORLDTMP}/usr/sbin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games > ! TMPPATH= > ${STRICTTMPPATH}:${OBJTREE}${.CURDIR}/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl:${PATH} > > # > # Building a world goes through the following stages > > This is probably only a temporary fix and is not the right approach, but > it does illustrate that the problem is that the miniperl from > /usr/bin/miniperl was being called by the > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile.inc and not the one built during the > buildworld. > > Since "miniperl" is referenced in the perl/Makefile.inc either one has > to "hardcode" the version of miniperl, i.e. include the path of the > version of miniperl for each reference in that makefile, or one should > install miniperl someplace in ${WORLDTMP} which is included in the path. > The former appears to be more in the spirit of "build-tools" since these > "tools' do not install their targets. They assume that the targets > operate in place. The later (installing miniperl inside of ${WORLDTMP) > would require an update to the build-tools target in perl/miniperl. > > Maybe none of the above is the correct approach, but these are some > ideas. > > Regards, George Dinolt > > Note: My buildworld has not completed as I write this but it has gotten > through the bootstrap and makedepends part of the perl build and I need > to get to bed. > > > > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 11:15:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD0637C1CB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28277 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:15:15 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03153 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:02:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:02:43 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: current@freebsd.org Subject: -current of 3 hours ago, can't get GENERIC kernel compiled Message-ID: <20000627200243.A3117@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG current of today, very recent. Just to drop you a note. cc -pipe -O -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC/../.. -I. -I/usr/include -o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll ./aicasm -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -o aic7xxx_seq.h -r aic7xxx_reg.h ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq ./aicasm: 725 instructions used make: don't know how to make ../../crypto/blowfish/bf_cbc.c. Stop 5.922u 1.575s 0:11.54 64.9% 1350+1091k 312+4io 103pf+0w -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 12: 9:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6D737B642; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:09:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27568; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:08:05 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006271708.TAA27568@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Dan Moschuk Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! New (incomplete) /dev/random device! References: <20000627124818.G340@spirit.jaded.net> In-Reply-To: <20000627124818.G340@spirit.jaded.net> ; from Dan Moschuk "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:48:18 -0400." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:08:05 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > | 3) It is not built by default (except as a kernel module), so you > | either need to add the "options RANDOMDEV" like to your kernel > | config, or load it at boot time in /dev/loader.conf > > Can we make this a standard thing? I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't > want /dev/random in their system. Maybe to shrink the size of the > boot disk kernel, but I think the headaches that this could cause or worth > the code we might add. It is already in GENERIC; when the dust has settled, I'll tackle /boot/loader.conf. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 12:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from barmetta.skmdc.net (barmetta.skmdc.net [209.21.47.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD6E37BACB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan@barmetta.com) Received: (from bryan@localhost) by barmetta.skmdc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07688; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:39:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryan) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:39:56 -0700 From: "bryan d. o'connor" To: Julian Elischer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huh? ssh stopped working with new kernel. Message-ID: <20000627123956.J249@barmetta.com> References: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org>; from julian@elischer.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:29:25AM -0700 X-X: super karate monkey death car Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). | Disabling protocol version 1 | Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 i just had the same problem. this was probably discussed in the /dev/[u]random thread and i missed it. you can either kldload /modules/randomdev.ko or add "options RANDOMDEV" to your kernel config. make sure you read the warning in /usr/src/UPDATING. ...bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 12:45:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3577137BE24 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by coredump.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1371HY-000AkR-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:44:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:44:27 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: Mark Murray Cc: Martin Cracauer , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl Message-ID: <20000627144427.K3994@FreeBSD.org> References: <20000626212757.A88139@cons.org> <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006262008.WAA07311@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:08:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [cc's trimmed] On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:08:58PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Message to others for bootstrapping: > > > > Checkout perl (contrib/perl5 and gnu/usr.bin/perl) from -D 20000624, > > build and install it manually, then update both dirs to HEAD and do a > > world with the new perl in place. > > Now you can colour me flummoxed. :-(. > > Have you a script(1) of that? Just for the record, I tried that.. (my laptop is at 06/20 -current right now) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- coredump 15# cvs checkout -PA -D 20000624 src/contrib/perl5 src/gnu/usr.bin/perl[...] coredump 16# cd src/gnu/usr.bin/perl coredump 17# make depend all install [...] coredump 18# cd /usr/src coredump 19# rm -rf src/contrib/perl5 src/gnu/usr.bin/perl coredump 20# cd /usr/src/contrib && cvs update -PAd . [...] coredump 21# cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin && cvs update -PAd . [...] coredump 22# rm -rf /usr/obj/* [...] coredump 23# make buildworld [...] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- It crapped out in exactly the same place. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 12:48:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C9637B9A7; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:48:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28775; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:49:00 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006271949.VAA28775@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Ade Lovett Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl References: <20000627144427.K3994@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20000627144427.K3994@FreeBSD.org> ; from Ade Lovett "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:44:27 EST." Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:48:59 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Just for the record, I tried that.. (my laptop is at 06/20 -current > right now) What "right now"? I committed some fixes about 4 hours ago. Do you have those? (Look for lots of ${MINIPERL} in place of "miniperl"). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 12:53: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC9E37BACB for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by coredump.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1371Pg-000GvS-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:52:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:52:51 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl Message-ID: <20000627145251.L3994@lovett.com> References: <20000627144427.K3994@FreeBSD.org> <200006271949.VAA28775@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006271949.VAA28775@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 09:48:59PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 09:48:59PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Just for the record, I tried that.. (my laptop is at 06/20 -current > > right now) > > What "right now"? I committed some fixes about 4 hours ago. Do you > have those? "right now" as in "it's running kernel and userland from 06/20" The contents of /usr/src are up to date as of 0300 CDT this morning. > (Look for lots of ${MINIPERL} in place of "miniperl"). Ok. I'll re-cvsup now and take a peek. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 13: 7:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9510237B642 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 24879 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2000 20:07:08 -0000 Received: from acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net (63.90.94.131) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 27 Jun 2000 20:07:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:07:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller X-Sender: dmmiller@acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net To: Edwin Culp Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints In-Reply-To: <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Did you compile your kernel with any optimizations, such as -Os? If so, try it recompiling it without optimizations. - Donn On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Edwin Culp wrote: > I have 5 machines running current. All are booting fine with the > changes made on June 12, with the exception of a k-6 laptop. I have > been booting the kernel.works since the changes and can't seem to get > something right. I have tried with my original kernel configuration and > now have been trying with the GENERIC configuration and GENERIC.hints. > When I try to boot with my new kernel I get: > > BTX loader 1.0 BTX version is 1.01 > Console: internal video/keyboard > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive B: is disk1 > BIOS 639kB/97280kB available memory > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 > root@casa.local.net Mon June 26 12:37:44 PDT 2000 > > int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb > eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 > esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 > cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb > ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 > System halted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 13:14:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D1537BD4D for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-202.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.202]) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA41871; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <39590B26.5B6FC6BA@EnContacto.Net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:14:30 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donn Miller Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Donn Miller wrote: > Did you compile your kernel with any optimizations, such as -Os? If so, > try it recompiling it without optimizations. Unfortunately, no. I wish that I had, because I'm fresh out of things to try. Thanks, ed > > > - Donn > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Edwin Culp wrote: > > > I have 5 machines running current. All are booting fine with the > > changes made on June 12, with the exception of a k-6 laptop. I have > > been booting the kernel.works since the changes and can't seem to get > > something right. I have tried with my original kernel configuration and > > now have been trying with the GENERIC configuration and GENERIC.hints. > > When I try to boot with my new kernel I get: > > > > BTX loader 1.0 BTX version is 1.01 > > Console: internal video/keyboard > > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > > BIOS drive B: is disk1 > > BIOS 639kB/97280kB available memory > > > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 > > root@casa.local.net Mon June 26 12:37:44 PDT 2000 > > > > int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb > > eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 > > esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 > > cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb > > ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 > > System halted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 13:30:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA3E37B7FD for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:30:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e5RKUQC01701; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:30:26 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Julian Elischer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Huh? ssh stopped working with new kernel. Message-ID: <20000627133026.Q275@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org>; from julian@elischer.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 10:29:25AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Julian Elischer [000627 12:36] wrote: > So I cvsupped yesterday, and tehn made a new kernel. > so suddenly ssh doesn't work any more. cvsup again and recompile and reload the randomdev module, it should resume working. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 14: 3:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1472937C28E for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@dsuper.net) Received: from modemcable009.62-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net ([24.201.62.9]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0FWT004PQYOTI0@field.videotron.net> for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:40:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: Huh? ssh stopped working with new kernel. In-reply-to: <3958E475.2781E494@elischer.org> X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: Julian Elischer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Julian, "me too." Note that if I go back to kernel.saved, it works again. --Bosko On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: > So I cvsupped yesterday, and tehn made a new kernel. > so suddenly ssh doesn't work any more. > > it says: > > > jules# ssh www.elischer.org > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > Disabling protocol version 1 > Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 > jules# > > luckily /usr/local/bin/ssh was still there > and still works..... > (same if ssh-ing to freefall as well). > I decided maybe marks broken urandom may be the prolem > but making it a symlink to /dev/random > didn't help.. > jules# ls -l /dev/*rand* > crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2, 3 Jun 27 10:26 /dev/random > lrwx------ 1 root wheel 6 Jun 27 10:26 /dev/urandom -> random > jules# > > Any suggestions.. > it worked this morning > and I have NOT changed any user programs/libraries.... > > > > -- > __--_|\ Julian Elischer > / \ julian@elischer.org > ( OZ ) World tour 2000 > )_.---._/ presently in: Budapest > v > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- Bosko Milekic * Voice/Mobile: 514.865.7738 * Pager: 514.921.0237 bmilekic@technokratis.com * http://www.technokratis.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 14: 7:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAD837B6AE for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.9.2/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA21599 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:07:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] (eccles [194.32.164.2]) by seagoon.gid.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA53056 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:50:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:50:58 +0100 To: current@freebsd.org From: Bob Bishop Subject: USB modems Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can anyone give a quick synopsis of the current status of support for USB modems? TIA -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 15:42:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B7D37B6EA for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:42:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000627224246.BDXS28505.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:42:46 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id PAA23416; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:53:27 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Alexander Langer Cc: Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000627155327.P15683@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Langer , Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current References: <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com>; from Alexander Langer on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:14:31PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 06:14:31PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Dan Papasian (bugg@bugg.strangled.net): > > > > > + // un-needed. > > > > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > > > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > > Use /* */ comments or #if 0. > > Actually, there was just a discussion on comp.lang.c about how > > they aren't interchangable. The 'un-needed' part will have > > to be commented with /* */ because the preprocessor will > > parse tokens before it evaluates conditionals. > > Could you explain that paragraph? I really can't figure out what you > try to say or what it has to do with my comment, respectively :) Dan was just explaining that commenting a block of code out with /* printf("This style of comment\n"); */ ... is not equivalent to preventing the compilation of a block of code using the preprocessor #if directive #if 0 printf("Like this"); #endif ... because the preprocessor still parses tokens inside the conditionally compiled block, even if the code inside won't be compiled, where in the former case it does not (the preprocessor strips all comments before parsing tokens). It doesn't have anything to do with what you were trying to explain. It was just an interesting comment on comments. -brian -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 15:53:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6062337BF85 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:53:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by coredump.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1374ER-000CpE-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:53:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:53:26 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl Message-ID: <20000627175325.B3994@FreeBSD.org> References: <20000627144427.K3994@FreeBSD.org> <200006271949.VAA28775@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000627145251.L3994@lovett.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000627145251.L3994@lovett.com>; from ade@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:52:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:52:51PM -0500, Ade Lovett wrote: > Mark wrote: > > (Look for lots of ${MINIPERL} in place of "miniperl"). > > Ok. I'll re-cvsup now and take a peek. Got all the ${MINIPERL} stuff, and I now have a successful buildworld. Took 7 minutes longer than the last time though... -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 15:56: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBD637BEDF; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:56:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA63434; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Release still broken with new Perl To: markm@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark, A test release I built today died while installing Perl the second time around into the trees directory where the install distributions are rolled from as follows: ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/re cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/re/ext/re ; make -B install INSTALLPRIVLIB=/R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006 INSTALLARCHLIB=/R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/re.pm Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/re.so Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/re.bs Writing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/.packlist Appending installation info to /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/perllocal.pod ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. ---------------------------------------- release started at 12:40:58 on 06/27/00 release died at 15:43:43 on 06/27/00 ---------------------------------------- # ident Makefile Makefile: $FreeBSD: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/Makefile,v 1.1 2000/06/25 14:48:03 markm Exp $ # make -n distribute make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop # cd .. # make -n distribute cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library ; make install DESTDIR=/bin SHARED=copies for entry in B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV NDBM_File Opcode POSIX SDBM_File Socket Hostname Syslog attrs re; do (echo "===> $entry"; if test -d /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}.i386; then cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}.i386; else cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}; fi; make distribute DIRPRFX=$entry/); done My guess is to include bsd.prog.mk instead of bsd.obj.mk in the library Makefiles, and then just use bsd.subdir.mk in src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile, but someone more familiar with the bsd.*.mk files might know of a better solution. Regardless, I'll try my theory out and see if it fixes release. --- John Baldwin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 16: 8:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BE137C24E; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D60C53E49; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:08:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:08:44 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: John Baldwin Cc: markm@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl Message-ID: <20000628010844.A1544@skriver.dk> References: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com>; from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 03:55:59PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 03:55:59PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > Mark, > > A test release I built today died while installing Perl the second > time around into the trees directory where the install distributions > are rolled from as follows: I just successfully upgraded from a approx 3-4 week old -current to one as of 3-4 hours ago ... I didn't see this problem, don't know if that helps in narrowing down this issue. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: Geek @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 16:10:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFC837BF25 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:10:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA64113; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200006272310.QAA64113@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl In-Reply-To: <20000628010844.A1544@skriver.dk> from Jesper Skriver at "Jun 28, 2000 01:08:44 am" To: Jesper Skriver Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 03:55:59PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > Mark, > > > > A test release I built today died while installing Perl the second > > time around into the trees directory where the install distributions > > are rolled from as follows: > > I just successfully upgraded from a approx 3-4 week old -current to one > as of 3-4 hours ago ... I didn't see this problem, don't know if that > helps in narrowing down this issue. Not really because it is breaking in the 'distribute' target, which isn't used during world, but only during release. --- John Baldwin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 17: 6:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370837B61E; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:05:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by coredump.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 1375MJ-000Ign-00; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:05:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:05:39 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: perl5 ports and perl5.006 Message-ID: <20000627190539.C3994@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Got a couple of issues with perl5.006 that just went into -current in terms of perl5 ports. The first one is relatively straightforward, being a simple versioning problem. Following patch fixes that (OSVERSION may be slightly wrong, but it corresponds to what I have in my up-to-date src tree): Index: bsd.port.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/src/FreeBSD/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk,v retrieving revision 1.340 diff -u -r1.340 bsd.port.mk --- bsd.port.mk 2000/06/16 21:52:40 1.340 +++ bsd.port.mk 2000/06/27 23:59:03 @@ -764,12 +764,17 @@ .endif .endif +.if ${OSVERSION} >= 500006 +PERL_VERSION= 5.006 +PERL_VER= 5.006 +.else +PERL_VER= 5.005 .if ${OSVERSION} >= 300000 PERL_VERSION= 5.00503 .else PERL_VERSION= 5.00502 +.endif .endif -PERL_VER= 5.005 PERL_ARCH= ${ARCH}-freebsd PLIST_SUB+= PERL_VERSION=${PERL_VERSION} \ PERL_VER=${PERL_VER} \ The next one is a little more obscure, at least to my limited perl knowledge. Take a perl5 port at random.. I chose converters/p5-Convert-UU I had to make the following (kludgy) hack to the PLIST to make things package properly: Index: PLIST =================================================================== RCS file: /home/src/FreeBSD/ports/converters/p5-Convert-UU/pkg/PLIST,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 PLIST --- PLIST 1999/01/11 15:33:32 1.6 +++ PLIST 2000/06/27 23:54:22 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ bin/puudecode bin/puuencode lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/Convert/UU.pm -lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto/Convert/UU/.packlist -@dirrm lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto/Convert/UU +lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/mach/auto/Convert/UU/.packlist +@dirrm lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/mach/auto/Convert/UU Notice how things appear to be being installed in a mach/ subdirectory, as opposed to the previous {i386,alpha}-freebsd/ subdirectories. Also, when making the port, it complains about not being able to find pod2man (to make the manual pages), even though it successfully does this elsewhere. This appears to be affect most (if not all) of the perl5 ports. Any solutions for this problem? -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 18:35:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1277937B64C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA28141; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:32:00 +1000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:31:55 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Alexander Langer Cc: Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C In-Reply-To: <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Clive Lin (clive@CirX.ORG): > > > - memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > - *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > + // un-needed. > > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); > > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; > > Use /* */ comments or #if 0. > > Please see style(9) :) 1) Don't "comment out" dead code. Remove it. 2) Use only #if 0 to "comment out code. Comments are unsuitable for "commenting out" code in general, because the code might contain comments, and they are harder to edit and read. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 20:44:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C49D37C52A for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA09851; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:44:27 +1000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:44:24 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: John Polstra G Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions about kmem_malloc and SPL levels In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, John Polstra G wrote: > The comment leading into kmem_malloc (in sys/vm/vm_kern.c) is > worrying me: > > * This routine has its own private kernel submap (kmem_map) and object > * (kmem_object). This, combined with the fact that only malloc uses > * this routine, ensures that we will never block in map or object waits. > > Actually, this function is called by m_clalloc (in > sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c) too. The comment is obviously wrong. Is it a > problem that this assumption is violated? > > * Note that this still only works in a uni-processor environment and > * when called at splhigh(). This comment hasn't changed significantly since Net/2 or earlier. It was already wrong there. In Net/2, and still in 4.4BSDLite[1-2], both malloc() and m_clalloc() call kmem_malloc() at splimp(). The safety of this depends on malloc() not being called from non-network interrupt handlers. splhigh() would have to be used instead of splimp() if any interrupt handler could call malloc(). malloc() can be called safely from timeout interrupt handlers too, because splimp() masks timeouts. In FreeBSD, malloc() can also be called from bio interrupt handlers. splvm() = splimp() + splbio() is used for malloc() but not for m_clalloc() or m_mballoc(). > The first part will be news to the folks running SMP. :-) The business > about splhigh is also wrong. But what worries me is that malloc calls > it at splmem, while m_clalloc calls it at splimp. Is that a problem? malloc() calls it on kmem_map while m_clalloc() call it on mb_map, so I think there is no problem in principle. vm just has to call splvm() itself and not depend on kmem_malloc() being called at splvm() (so the comment is broken in yet another way). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 21:40:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89F437B924 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmilekic@dsuper.net) Received: from modemcable009.62-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net ([24.201.62.9]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0FWU0081JKI09S@falla.videotron.net> for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:31:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: Questions about kmem_malloc and SPL levels In-reply-to: X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: Bruce Evans Cc: John Polstra G , current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Bruce Evans wrote: > > The first part will be news to the folks running SMP. :-) The business > > about splhigh is also wrong. But what worries me is that malloc calls > > it at splmem, while m_clalloc calls it at splimp. Is that a problem? > > malloc() calls it on kmem_map while m_clalloc() call it on mb_map, so I > think there is no problem in principle. vm just has to call splvm() > itself and not depend on kmem_malloc() being called at splvm() (so the > comment is broken in yet another way). > > Bruce There is a general inconsistency in the vm code it seems, for what concerns this issue. I noticed it while looking at the mbuf stuff. As you mention, kmem_malloc() should really just raise to splvm() itself, as do some other routines already in such a situation (look at vm_map). As in the mbuf stuff I seperated mb_map into two parts: mb_map and mcl_map, the long if () statements in vm_map became tedious, not to mention, a slight loss in speed, so what I did (after Emailing dillon about it) was add an alloc_intr field in the vm_map. This is set to 1 for kmem_map, mb_map, and mcl_map, and is checked in the vm_map stuff to decide whether to raise to splvm(), and should probably also be checked in kmem_malloc() for the same reason as well. However, I suspect that kmem_malloc calls some of those vm_map routines at one point or another and they take care of raising to splvm() when necessary, so I don't suspect a critical problem. The question is exactly: How much of kmem_malloc needs to be under splvm() ? In any case, the comment needs to be changed ASAP (I Emailed the lists myself about this maybe on 2 different occasions before and have gotten no reply). --Bosko -- Bosko Milekic * Voice/Mobile: 514.865.7738 * Pager: 514.921.0237 bmilekic@technokratis.com * http://www.technokratis.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 21:54:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tokyogw.iij.ad.jp (tokyogw.iij.ad.jp [202.232.15.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611CE37B58D; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shigeru@iij.ad.jp) Received: by tokyogw.iij.ad.jp; id NAA12874; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:54:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from mercury.iij.ad.jp(192.168.4.89) by tokyogw.iij.ad.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma012851; Wed, 28 Jun 00 13:54:22 +0900 Received: from localhost (shigeru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.iij.ad.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28386; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:54:19 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: imp@village.org Subject: snapshot of CardBus support code for FreeBSD X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93b38 on XEmacs 21.2 (Shinjuku) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000628135419O.shigeru@iij.ad.jp> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:54:19 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Shigeru X-Dispatcher: imput version 991025(IM133) Lines: 21 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm writing a code to support CardBus at FreeBSD. I put on a current working code snapshot at my Web, URL:http://www.bremen.or.jp/shigeru/FreeBSD/CardBus/ This is an alpha quality and different implimentation of NEWCARD. Currently, It only works on my laptop, SONY VAIO PCG-818. Supported PC Cards are MELCO WLI-PCM-L11, which is an OEM of a Lucent WaveLan, and Corega FastEther PCC-TX. These 16-bit PC Cards are using PCI interrupt, not use ISA interrupt. CardBus PC Card does not work, we can only dump a CIS. I put on a compiled kernel at same place. #Please try it if you want. Thanks, ------- YAMAMOTO Shigeru Internet Initiative Japan Inc. Network Engineering Div. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 22:18:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7B837BE4C for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userfn40.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.24.227] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 137AF5-0007g1-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:18:31 +0100 Message-ID: <39598B27.341B68CC@alveley.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:20:39 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot Oddities Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies if this ought to be in -questions rather than -current, but since I first noticed the problem on 5.0-20000621-CURRENT... The above snapshot was installed on a brand new system (OR840, 2x733EB, 512MB RDRAM, 1xAHA2940UW, 4x9.1Gb Barracuda). The disk organisation is as follows: da0: one NTFS partition (W2K), FreeBSD multiboot MBR installed da1: fully dedicated, FreeBSD, has the root partition (da1s1a) da2: fully dedicated, FreeBSD da3: fully dedicated, FreeBSD Since this is a recent snapshot, I assume it defaults to use loader(8). When the system boots, I get the usual F1/F5 choice, as follows: F1 ?? F5 Drive 1 Default: F5 Selecting F5 (or letting the timer run to completion) leads to the following: Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe0040) No /boot/loader >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 1:da(1,a)/kernel boot: then proceeding to load /kernel, rather than /boot/loader (which is why I posted about problems with nlist (aka top/vmstat/systat) a few days ago). If I hit a key early enough, I get: >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 1:da(1,a)/boot/loader boot: Hitting RETURN then leads to: Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe0040) No /boot/loader after which I need to enter 1:da(1,a)/kernel to proceed. Needless to say, /boot/loader IS on da1s1a (with its usual assortment of .rc and .conf in required places), which is why I am a bit surprised. Can anyone shed a light on the above? I now know how to get around the nlist issue, but this is not the recommended method... Configuration files available upon request. Best Regards, PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 23: 2:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D3337B881; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14605; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:02:58 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006280602.IAA14605@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Ade Lovett Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl References: <20000627175325.B3994@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20000627175325.B3994@FreeBSD.org> ; from Ade Lovett "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:53:26 EST." Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:02:58 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Ok. I'll re-cvsup now and take a peek. > > Got all the ${MINIPERL} stuff, and I now have a successful > buildworld. Took 7 minutes longer than the last time though... I'm glad it worked! The "Yes, it is cool now" reports are just as valuable as the "You idiot! You broke it!" ones :-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jun 27 23: 4:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C9B37BE7B for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14619; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:04:29 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006280604.IAA14619@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl References: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> ; from John Baldwin "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:59 MST." Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:04:29 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B > make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop OK - I know how to fix this. Thanks for the report! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:11: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D4A37BF41 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userfn40.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.24.227] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 137Bzt-0000Yz-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:10:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3959A580.E6EDE4EC@alveley.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:13:04 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Oddities References: <39598B27.341B68CC@alveley.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Dampure, Pierre Y." wrote: > > Apologies if this ought to be in -questions rather than -current, but > since I first noticed the problem on 5.0-20000621-CURRENT... > > The above snapshot was installed on a brand new system (OR840, 2x733EB, > 512MB RDRAM, 1xAHA2940UW, 4x9.1Gb Barracuda). The disk organisation is > as follows: > > da0: one NTFS partition (W2K), FreeBSD multiboot MBR installed > da1: fully dedicated, FreeBSD, has the root partition (da1s1a) > da2: fully dedicated, FreeBSD > da3: fully dedicated, FreeBSD > > Since this is a recent snapshot, I assume it defaults to use loader(8). > > When the system boots, I get the usual F1/F5 choice, as follows: > > F1 ?? > F5 Drive 1 > > Default: F5 > > Selecting F5 (or letting the timer run to completion) leads to the > following: > > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe0040) > No /boot/loader > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 1:da(1,a)/kernel > boot: > > then proceeding to load /kernel, rather than /boot/loader (which is why > I posted about problems with nlist (aka top/vmstat/systat) a few days > ago). > > If I hit a key early enough, I get: > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 1:da(1,a)/boot/loader > boot: > > Hitting RETURN then leads to: > > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0xe0040) > No /boot/loader > > after which I need to enter 1:da(1,a)/kernel to proceed. > > Needless to say, /boot/loader IS on da1s1a (with its usual assortment of > .rc and .conf in required places), which is why I am a bit surprised. > > Can anyone shed a light on the above? I now know how to get around the > nlist issue, but this is not the recommended method... > > Configuration files available upon request. > > Best Regards, > > PYD FWIW, I DID have a look at the archives before posting... the only thread that looks remotely related is: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3392426+3394340+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-current/19990509.freebsd-current but this is in the case of IDE drives, not SCSI... CAM reports my drives as having a (255H 63S/T 1106C) geometry, so even with a 512Mb root partition I am still under the 1023 cylinders limit (if even applicable to SCSI devices). Best Regards, PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:11:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF2637BA85 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA78334; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:11:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA03543; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006280711.BAA03543@harmony.village.org> To: Edwin Culp Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:21:11 PDT." <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> References: <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:11:17 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Edwin Culp writes: : int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb : eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 : esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 : cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb : ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 : System halted : : I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. I'd try booting the old kernel and seeing if doing a completely clean build fixes this. I'd also try to reboot after power off. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:13:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE0F37BE89 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA78351; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:13:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA03574; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006280713.BAA03574@harmony.village.org> To: Alexander Langer Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Cc: Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:14:31 +0200." <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:13:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> Alexander Langer writes: : Thus spake Dan Papasian (bugg@bugg.strangled.net): : : > > > + // un-needed. : > > > + // memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); : > > > + // *name_dir_end = 'r'; : > > Use /* */ comments or #if 0. : > Actually, there was just a discussion on comp.lang.c about how : > they aren't interchangable. The 'un-needed' part will have : > to be commented with /* */ because the preprocessor will : > parse tokens before it evaluates conditionals. : : Could you explain that paragraph? I really can't figure out what you : try to say or what it has to do with my comment, respectively :) /* That's OK */ #if 0 That's not #endif Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0240337BEE6; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA78356; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:14:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA03596; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> To: Hiroki Sato Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:49:34 +0900." <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> References: <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:14:22 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to generate this information? I think it would greatly enhance the ability of the aintainer to update it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:18:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 670ED37BEE6 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 25387 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 07:18:22 -0000 Received: from acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net (63.90.94.131) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 07:18:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:18:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller X-Sender: dmmiller@acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net To: Warner Losh Cc: Edwin Culp , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints In-Reply-To: <200006280711.BAA03543@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Edwin Culp writes: > : int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb > : eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 > : esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 > : cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb > : ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 > : System halted > : > : I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. > > I'd try booting the old kernel and seeing if doing a completely clean > build fixes this. I'd also try to reboot after power off. It looks like the optimization bug that's been biting kernel builds lately. When Peter Wemm made the overhaul to the kernel config, strange things started happening when optimization higher than -O was used to build the kernel. For example, I got a Fatal Trap 12 immediately after the probe for available memory. I was using -Os to compile my kernel at the time. Backing down to -O for kernel builds solved this, and boots proceeded normally. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 0:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (T1-Hansenet.BIK-GmbH.de [192.76.134.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9699237BE89 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.9.3/8.7.3) id JAA02964; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:49:55 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:49:55 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: Andreas Klemm Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -current of 3 hours ago, can't get GENERIC kernel compiled Message-ID: <20000628094955.A97151@cons.org> References: <20000627200243.A3117@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000627200243.A3117@titan.klemm.gtn.com>; from andreas@klemm.gtn.com on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:02:43PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <20000627200243.A3117@titan.klemm.gtn.com>, Andreas Klemm wrote: > current of today, very recent. > > Just to drop you a note. > > cc -pipe -O -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC/../.. -I. -I/usr/include -o aicasm aicasm_gram.o aicasm_scan.o aicasm.o aicasm_symbol.o -ll > ./aicasm -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -o aic7xxx_seq.h -r aic7xxx_reg.h ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq > ./aicasm: 725 instructions used > make: don't know how to make ../../crypto/blowfish/bf_cbc.c. Stop > 5.922u 1.575s 0:11.54 64.9% 1350+1091k 312+4io 103pf+0w You need the full crypto stuff, including src/sys/crypto. See example cvsup files. Yes, a HEADS up or an entry to /usr/src/UPDATE would have been great. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 1:11:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5050137B8AC; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:11:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA99204; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00980; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006270941.CAA00980@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Mak Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26-Jun-00 David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:28:53PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: >> > Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the >> > last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the >> > other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path >> > adjustments. >> >> The problem here is that miniperl needs to be built early enough >> to be in the path perl "proper" is done. >> >> I thought build-tools was the answer; sadly that seems to be wrong. >> Now I'm looking at cross-tools (out of src/makefile.inc1). > > Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the > installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't > have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used > throughout the build and install stages. I think that's what we have in this case. We need the newer version of miniperl to build perl, correct? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 1:22:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDEA37B5EC; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137D6t-000Bub-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:22:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:22:15 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: John Baldwin Cc: David O'Brien , current@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Murray Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Mak Message-ID: <20000628102215.A45652@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000626140615.H64105@dragon.nuxi.com> <200006270941.CAA00980@john.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006270941.CAA00980@john.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 02:41:25AM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue 2000-06-27 (02:41), John Baldwin wrote: > > On 26-Jun-00 David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 10:28:53PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > >> > Since I'm now through it, I don't know the latest problem, but the > >> > last thing I saw that the old lib got used with the new perl (or the > >> > other way round) and that looks like it can be fixed with some path > >> > adjustments. > >> > >> The problem here is that miniperl needs to be built early enough > >> to be in the path perl "proper" is done. > >> > >> I thought build-tools was the answer; sadly that seems to be wrong. > >> Now I'm looking at cross-tools (out of src/makefile.inc1). > > > > Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the > > installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't > > have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used > > throughout the build and install stages. > > I think that's what we have in this case. We need the newer version of > miniperl to build perl, correct? Yes, exactly. We were only building libperl (statically) and miniperl in the build-tools stage, so that miniperl (statically linked with libperl) is available for the building later. The choice to use crosstools is easier, since it by default installs the tool into the "strict path", but Mark used build-tools and a path to miniperl to do it instead, presumably since it is restricted to a very minor bit of the tree. (This reminds me that I have a skeleton document about 'make world' that needs serious attention. Too many projects.) Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 1:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAA237B63D; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA35362; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <3959B639.CFCF88FE@gorean.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:24:25 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0603 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ade Lovett Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: perl5 ports and perl5.006 References: <20000627190539.C3994@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ade Lovett wrote: > > Got a couple of issues with perl5.006 that just went into -current > in terms of perl5 ports. > > The first one is relatively straightforward, being a simple > versioning problem. Following patch fixes that (OSVERSION > may be slightly wrong, but it corresponds to what I have > in my up-to-date src tree): > > Index: bsd.port.mk > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/src/FreeBSD/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk,v > retrieving revision 1.340 > diff -u -r1.340 bsd.port.mk > --- bsd.port.mk 2000/06/16 21:52:40 1.340 > +++ bsd.port.mk 2000/06/27 23:59:03 > @@ -764,12 +764,17 @@ > .endif > .endif > > +.if ${OSVERSION} >= 500006 > +PERL_VERSION= 5.006 > +PERL_VER= 5.006 > +.else > +PERL_VER= 5.005 > .if ${OSVERSION} >= 300000 > PERL_VERSION= 5.00503 > .else > PERL_VERSION= 5.00502 > +.endif > .endif > -PERL_VER= 5.005 > PERL_ARCH= ${ARCH}-freebsd > PLIST_SUB+= PERL_VERSION=${PERL_VERSION} \ > PERL_VER=${PERL_VER} \ Second this one... My mrtg died as soon as I install'ed the world since perl is now looking for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.006. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 1:43:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCFB37B5A9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdinolt@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([63.199.31.99]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FWU002I1W74AD@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:43:04 -0700 From: "George W. Dinolt" Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... To: Mark Murray , current@freebsd.org Message-id: <3959BA98.69D3D1E3@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <39585CEA.423F53CB@pacbell.net> <200006270855.KAA55386@grimreaper.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark: Got through the buildworld with a recent cvsup. I am now running with this "world". Many thanks. I am not sure who is supposed to manage the fact that /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk doesn't yet know about perl-5.006. One appears to need to set PERL_VER and PERL_VERSION. I just added an ."if {OSVERSION} >= 500006" , but this clearly isn't enough for people who have yet to upgrade to the newest "current'. Does this mean that the OSVERSION needs to be incremented to indicate the perl upgrade? Isn't life wonderful. Solutions to problems always lead to new problems. Regards, George Dinolt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 1:48:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB69F37B8EB; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA58953; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Warner Losh Cc: Assar Westerlund , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode_if.h: how should it be done ? In-Reply-To: <200006250736.BAA09723@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > They aren't installed. You must have a kernel tree to build the kld. > Just add vnode_if.h to your SRCS and the rest happens automatically > via bsd.kmod.mk. It works great. I do it all the time. In fact, I > added SYSDIR support to bsd.kmod.mk at Timing Solutions so that we > could compile our drivers outside of the tree. As I understand it, this is the only file which is required from the kernel sources in order to build the arla port. ISTR FiST also needs it to be present, and I also think I once came across another port that needed it too. Is it really so wrong to make the lives of these third-party FS tools harder by requiring full kernel sources to be present? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 2:30:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cartier.cirx.org (cartier.cirx.org [211.72.15.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDBA37C137 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clive@cartier.cirx.org) Received: (from clive@localhost) by cartier.cirx.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03405; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:30:00 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from clive) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:30:00 +0800 From: Clive Lin To: Bruce Evans Cc: Alexander Langer , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000628172959.A3312@cartier.cirx.org> Reply-To: Clive Lin References: <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:31:55AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:31:55AM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: > 1) Don't "comment out" dead code. Remove it. > 2) Use only #if 0 to "comment out code. Comments are unsuitable for > "commenting out" code in general, because the code might contain > comments, and they are harder to edit and read. > > Bruce Okay .. the style(9) may like the diff now :-) Besides the original bogus style, is there any side effect/potential risk along with the code ? Regards, Clive -- CirX - This site doesnt' exist. 9c k9o h9 s1bg s1f, 7v .y xqx a sj m8r ffg1 vg5 a6 asox tmul h38 . ant sj m8r ob ? 1fj mwby a1 tao vg5. soq df v ' .a. CirX. --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=bdiff --- badsect.c~ Tue Jun 27 22:30:57 2000 +++ badsect.c Wed Jun 28 17:20:55 2000 @@ -118,11 +118,17 @@ err(3, "%s", name); name_dir_end = name + strlen(name); while ((dp = readdir(dirp)) != NULL) { + /* + * Opening of a mounted on device is not allowed. + * Attempt to open the raw device instead. + */ + if (dp->d_name[0] != 'r') + continue ; strcpy(name_dir_end, dp->d_name); if (lstat(name, &devstat) < 0) err(4, "%s", name); if (stbuf.st_dev == devstat.st_rdev && - (devstat.st_mode & IFMT) == IFBLK) + (devstat.st_mode & IFMT) == IFCHR) break; } closedir(dirp); @@ -131,12 +137,6 @@ (u_long)stbuf.st_rdev, argv[1]); exit(5); } - /* - * Opening of a mounted on device is not allowed. - * Attempt to open the raw device instead. - */ - memcpy(name_dir_end + 1, name_dir_end, strlen(name_dir_end) + 1); - *name_dir_end = 'r'; if ((fsi = open(name, O_RDONLY)) < 0) err(6, "%s", name); fs = &sblock; --J2SCkAp4GZ/dPZZf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 3: 5:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8AB37B704 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:05:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id MAA38561; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:05:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08207; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:04:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:04:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Thomas Schuerger Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates In-Reply-To: <200006061927.VAA12002@wjpserver.cs.uni-sb.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Thomas Schuerger wrote: > Hi! > > Is there already a tool that checks the installed ports for available > updates in /usr/ports? > > I've written such a tool, which seems to work fine already. Anyone > interested? > Now that such a tool (yours?) is in /etc/periodic/weekly, how does one update a package? If I update foo-1.1 to foo-1.2 by just doing a make install, I now have both foo-1.1 and foo-1.2 listed in /var/db/pkg And if I remove foo-1.1 first, it will complain that bar-2.3 requires foo. If I remove foo-1.1 after installing foo-1.2, /usr/bin/foo will be removed, I fear. Or will the MD5 values in +CONTENT check, that only files belonging to foo-1.1 be removed? That can't be, because some files might be the same in both packages. The steps needed for upgrading a package (from ports) would be: make install append foo-1.1/+REQUIRED_BY to foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY traverse /var/db/pkg/* and remove foo-1.1/replace with foo-1.2 "subtract" foo-1.2/+CONTENT from foo-1.1/+CONTENT, only removing files needed only in foo-1.1 remove /var/db/pkg/foo-1.1 Does this look sane? Have I overlooked the pkg_add --update command, or is it now "send patches-time"? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 4:23:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout2.silyn-tek.de (mout2.silyn-tek.de [194.25.165.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789D437BE27 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from [192.168.32.33] (helo=mx1.silyn-tek.de) by mout2.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137Fux-0006Dc-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:22:07 +0200 Received: from p3e9d38b7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([62.157.56.183] helo=neutron.cichlids.com) by mx1.silyn-tek.de with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137Fux-00005i-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:22:07 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D7AC27; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EE2A414AB3; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:22:15 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Warner Losh Cc: Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current Subject: Re: let badsect recog IFCHR in 5.0-C Message-ID: <20000628132215.E6301@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Dan Papasian , Clive Lin , FreeBSD current References: <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627230456.A18587@cartier.cirx.org> <20000627173821.A98097@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000627120855.A3798@moe.c705742-a.htfdw1.ct.home.com> <20000627181431.A15122@cichlids.cichlids.com> <200006280713.BAA03574@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006280713.BAA03574@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:13:21AM -0600 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Warner Losh (imp@village.org): > /* That's OK */ > #if 0 > That's not > #endif Lol. I'd like to see one who does such things :) Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 5:28:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cs0.catv.ne.jp (cs0.catv.ne.jp [202.232.171.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9109637B60B for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp) Received: from localhost by cs0.catv.ne.jp (8.9.1/3.7W) id VAA17365; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:27:15 +0900 (JST) To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf From: Takahashi Yoshihiro X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:28:31 +0900 (JST) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'd like to move {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf from src/release to src/release/$MACHINE because it needs to use different configuration file between PC/AT and PC-98 to decrease the size of PC-98 fixit.flp to 1.2MB. In addition, alpha machines don't require the fdisk command, so I think that it should be removed the fdisk command from fixit_crunch.conf for alpha. Comment? --- Takahashi Yoshihiro The Center for Information Science, Kogakuin Univ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 5:57:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7046737B60B for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:57:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137HOl-0007oc-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:56:59 +0200 Received: from [213.6.49.12] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137HOk-0004VR-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:56:59 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA68885; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:33:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200006281233.OAA68885@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:33:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Check for ports updates To: leifn@neland.dk Cc: schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 Jun, Leif Neland wrote: > The steps needed for upgrading a package (from ports) would be: > > make install > > append foo-1.1/+REQUIRED_BY to foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY > > traverse /var/db/pkg/* and remove foo-1.1/replace with foo-1.2 > > "subtract" foo-1.2/+CONTENT from foo-1.1/+CONTENT, only removing files > needed only in foo-1.1 > > remove /var/db/pkg/foo-1.1 cd /usr/ports/foo/bar make mv /var/db/pkg/bar-x.y.z/+REQUIRED_BY . pkg_delete bar-a.b.c make install mv +REQUIRED_BY /var/db/pkg/bar-d.e.f port_update.sh bar a.b.c d.e.f port_update.sh: ---snip--- #!/bin/sh # Syntax: port_update.sh # yes, I know it's ugly if [ ! $3 ]; then echo "$0 " exit 1 fi for i in `cat /var/db/pkg/${1}-${3}/+REQUIRED_BY`; do echo -n "Updating ${i}... " perl -npi -e "s:\@pkgdep\ ${1}\-${2}:\@pkgdep\ ${1}\-${3}:g" /var/db/pkg/${i}/+CONTENTS echo "done" done ---snip--- Lazy disclaimer: - works for me - I think I know what I'm doing here (and what the limitations are (e.g. bar == libxyz && libmajorversion(old) != libmajorversion(new))). Bye, Alexander. -- The best things in life are free, but the expensive ones are still worth a look. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:23:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA6D37B65B for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id PAA44766; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:22:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA46057; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:13:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:13:43 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates In-Reply-To: <200006281233.OAA68885@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? make update On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On 28 Jun, Leif Neland wrote: > > > The steps needed for upgrading a package (from ports) would be: > > > > make install > > > > append foo-1.1/+REQUIRED_BY to foo-1.2/+REQUIRED_BY > > > > traverse /var/db/pkg/* and remove foo-1.1/replace with foo-1.2 > > > > "subtract" foo-1.2/+CONTENT from foo-1.1/+CONTENT, only removing files > > needed only in foo-1.1 > > > > remove /var/db/pkg/foo-1.1 > > cd /usr/ports/foo/bar > make > mv /var/db/pkg/bar-x.y.z/+REQUIRED_BY . > pkg_delete bar-a.b.c > make install > mv +REQUIRED_BY /var/db/pkg/bar-d.e.f > port_update.sh bar a.b.c d.e.f > > port_update.sh: > ---snip--- > #!/bin/sh > > # Syntax: port_update.sh > # yes, I know it's ugly > > if [ ! $3 ]; then > echo "$0 " > exit 1 > fi > > for i in `cat /var/db/pkg/${1}-${3}/+REQUIRED_BY`; do > echo -n "Updating ${i}... " > perl -npi -e "s:\@pkgdep\ ${1}\-${2}:\@pkgdep\ ${1}\-${3}:g" /var/db/pkg/${i}/+CONTENTS > echo "done" > done > ---snip--- > > Lazy disclaimer: > - works for me > - I think I know what I'm doing here (and what the limitations are > (e.g. bar == libxyz && libmajorversion(old) != > libmajorversion(new))). > > Bye, > Alexander. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:29:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A442937BC50 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 137Hsi-000DBc-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:27:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:27:56 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Leif Neland Cc: Alexander Leidinger , schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates Message-ID: <20000628152756.A50635@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200006281233.OAA68885@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 03:13:43PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed 2000-06-28 (15:13), Leif Neland wrote: > Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? > > make update It will break the system at least 20% of the time. Change 20% to 100% for gnome, kde, xpm, png, tiff, jpeg, and so forth. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:56: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9894A37B64A; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA49462; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:07:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00507; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:57:06 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:57:06 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Nik Clayton , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000627095706.C316@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006262106.PAA27655@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006262106.PAA27655@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: > : In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files > : in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated > : from this XML file. As a developer, if you don't update the file the > : system won't even know about your driver (or option). > > I'm not sure how well this would work. Modules already obviate the > need to update stuff in sys/conf. S'fine, that's why this was cc'd to -current. I need input from people involved in the future technical direction of FreeBSD. How are we going to enumerate FreeBSD's supported hardware list in 5.x and beyond? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:56: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC1837B87B; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:55:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00463; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:27:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01669; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:50:48 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:50:48 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Nik Clayton , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000627145048.L1582@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <3957413B.83D5DEA4@newsguy.com> <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006262106.PAA27655@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:06:57PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000626184249.D462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: > : In my world, this XML file would be a replacement for many of the files > : in src/sys/conf/. Or, at the very least, those files would be generated > : from this XML file. As a developer, if you don't update the file the > : system won't even know about your driver (or option). > > I'm not sure how well this would work. Modules already obviate the > need to update stuff in sys/conf. S'fine, that's why this was cc'd to -current. I need input from people involved in the future technical direction of FreeBSD. How are we going to enumerate FreeBSD's supported hardware list in 5.x and beyond? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:57:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E0937B921; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00465; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:27:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01675; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:50:51 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:50:51 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, dgl@bsdi.com, jim@cdrom.com, papowell@astart.com, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, ceren@magnesium.net, ryan@ryan.net, murray@bsdi.com Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000627145051.M1582@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006262102.PAA27601@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:02:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: > : Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another > : could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ. > > There's some problems witht his. the ed driver supports a whole raft > of cards, but who can list them all? Initially, the driver's author. Over time, user submissions will indicate whether a particular driver supports a particular card. All I want to do is make sure that this information only needs to be maintained in one place. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 6:58: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 212B837B856; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA49466; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:07:55 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00517; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:58:04 GMT (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:58:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, dgl@bsdi.com, jim@cdrom.com, papowell@astart.com, wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG, ceren@magnesium.net, ryan@ryan.net, murray@bsdi.com Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000627095803.D316@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006262102.PAA27601@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006262102.PAA27601@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:02:07PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 03:02:07PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: > : Another script would parse the above and generate HARDWARE.TXT. And another > : could parse the above and spit out DocBook for the Handbook and FAQ. > > There's some problems witht his. the ed driver supports a whole raft > of cards, but who can list them all? Initially, the driver's author. Over time, user submissions will indicate whether a particular driver supports a particular card. All I want to do is make sure that this information only needs to be maintained in one place. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 7:55:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3528837B9CB for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-202.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.202]) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA90290; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <395A11C3.46E48537@EnContacto.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:55:00 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donn Miller Cc: Warner Losh , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, Warner and Donn. I have been successfully building a new world and kernel every day, except with the latest perl problems the last two days. Today's world is in process and looks like it is going to be successful. This means that everything is up to date. I haven't been able to boot any of the kernels since the configuration changes. My old kernel.works, as suggested in the changes email, is keeping me going. I'm beginning to think about and look for conflicts from very old current stuff that may be obsolete. (I've been running current on this machine for two years with a daily cvsup and make world.) I am also thinking that this may be processor specific. The machine is an older K6-2 at 300 Mhz. I haven't optimized the compilation. As I mentioned before, I wish that were the problem. Thanks very much for the suggestions and help. Donn Miller wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Edwin Culp writes: > > : int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb > > : eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 > > : esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 > > : cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb > > : ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 > > : System halted > > : > > : I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. > > > > I'd try booting the old kernel and seeing if doing a completely clean > > build fixes this. I'd also try to reboot after power off. > > It looks like the optimization bug that's been biting kernel builds > lately. When Peter Wemm made the overhaul to the kernel config, strange > things started happening when optimization higher than -O was used to > build the kernel. For example, I got a Fatal Trap 12 immediately after > the probe for available memory. I was using -Os to compile my kernel at > the time. Backing down to -O for kernel builds solved this, and boots > proceeded normally. > > - Donn > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 8: 6:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from coredump.lovett.com (hub.lovett.com [216.60.121.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A690237BA11; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by coredump.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.14 #1) id 137JQA-000JUP-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:06:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:06:34 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: ports@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: perl5 ports and perl5.006 Message-ID: <20000628100634.A74843@FreeBSD.org> References: <20000627190539.C3994@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000627190539.C3994@FreeBSD.org>; from ade@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:05:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 07:05:39PM -0500, Ade Lovett wrote: > Take a perl5 port at random.. I chose converters/p5-Convert-UU > I had to make the following (kludgy) hack to the PLIST to make > things package properly: > > Index: PLIST > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/src/FreeBSD/ports/converters/p5-Convert-UU/pkg/PLIST,v > retrieving revision 1.6 > diff -u -r1.6 PLIST > --- PLIST 1999/01/11 15:33:32 1.6 > +++ PLIST 2000/06/27 23:54:22 > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ > bin/puudecode > bin/puuencode > lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/Convert/UU.pm > -lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto/Convert/UU/.packlist > -@dirrm lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto/Convert/UU > +lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/mach/auto/Convert/UU/.packlist > +@dirrm lib/perl5/site_perl/%%PERL_VER%%/mach/auto/Convert/UU > > Notice how things appear to be being installed in a mach/ subdirectory, > as opposed to the previous {i386,alpha}-freebsd/ subdirectories. Bingo! Found the problem. Comparing src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/config.SH-elf.i386 between -STABLE and -CURRENT we find: (-CURRENT) installsitearch='/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.006/mach' (-STABLE) installsitearch='/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-freebsd' This is what's causing the port PLISTs to malfunction.. -current needs to be fixed appropriately, replacing 'mach' with '{i386,alpha}-freebsd' as appropriate. It also affects the threaded config file in the same directory. No idea on the exact fix.. The perl mangling seems to be "interesting" to say the least :) Perhaps this will give Mark the ammo he needs to fix it. That, and the patch to bsd.port.mk I gave should fix the perl transition problem for ports. -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. ade@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 8:27:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B5E737BA40 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:27:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 581 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 15:27:42 -0000 Received: from du213.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.213) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 15:27:42 -0000 Message-ID: <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:27:12 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT References: <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to > generate this information? Or perhaps the other way around. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 8:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk (mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk [212.53.64.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C65E837BA34 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pierre.dampure@alveley.org) Received: from userev11.uk.uudial.com ([62.188.17.194] helo=alveley.org) by mailhost.netbenefit.co.uk with esmtp (NetBenefit 1.5) id 137Jml-0005dY-00 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:29:55 +0100 Message-ID: <395A1A38.94D5880@alveley.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:31:04 +0100 From: "Dampure, Pierre Y." X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Oddities References: <39598B27.341B68CC@alveley.org> <3959A580.E6EDE4EC@alveley.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies to all, this was a pilot error. /boot/defaults/loader.conf was referencing disk1s1a -- it should have been disk2s1a (I forgot the floppy was included in the unit count). After a few interesting floppy boots / fdisk / disklabel sessions, I got the thingie to work. One point, though: the GENERIC kernel on the snapshot install was (obvioulsy) unaware of my peculiar setup and thus refused to load /boot/loader. This might prove a bit puzzling for newbies like me... and thus might deserve an FAQ entry. All in all, absence of answers proved to be the best incentive to hack around. Oh well, you learn everyday :-) Best Regards, PYD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 8:50:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6CB37BA9C for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137K6d-0004SI-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:27 +0200 Received: from [213.6.43.219] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137K6d-0000Vh-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:27 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00873; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:47:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200006281547.RAA00873@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:47:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Check for ports updates To: leifn@neland.dk Cc: schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 Jun, Leif Neland wrote: > Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? > > make update - it removes your config files in most cases. - it may break binaries which depend upon a specific library. - ... Bye, Alexander. -- Secret hacker rule #11: hackers read manuals. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 8:50:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E13137BBE3 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:50:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137K6j-0004So-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:33 +0200 Received: from [213.6.43.219] (helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #3) id 137K6j-0000Vh-00; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:33 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00879; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200006281550.RAA00879@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:50:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Check for ports updates To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org Cc: leifn@neland.dk, schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000628152756.A50635@mithrandr.moria.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28 Jun, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: >> Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? >> >> make update > > It will break the system at least 20% of the time. Change 20% to 100% > for gnome, kde, xpm, png, tiff, jpeg, and so forth. I've successfully updated png/tiff/jpeg and some gnome packages (core/libs, but not from 1.0.x to 1.2.x) this way. 100% is to much, but even 10% is to much for "make update". Bye, Alexander. -- I believe the technical term is "Oops!" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 9:32:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA2637BC58; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA67874; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:31:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:31:46 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp>; from hrs@geocities.co.jp on Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:49:34PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 11:49:34PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote > in <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>: > > > [ That schema is not set in stone, and certainly requires more work. In > > particular, we probably need "lang" and "encoding" options on the > > element, to support comments in more than one language. ] > > > > LINT would then become a skeletal file for things which don't fit this > > sort of pattern, and the full LINT would be generated by a script which > > parsed the above and the skeletal file to generate the full LINT. > > I think it is difficult to maintain the files because few editors > can handle various languages/encodings at the same time. > So, especially for translators, it is better that the .xml files > are separated on a encoding/language basis. Possibly. I was thinking that the only thing that would be language specific about each driver would be the comment section. ... All the other stuff is language independent. That being the case, it wouldn't be too hard to do ... ... and so on, would it? Or does loading Japanese text in to a non-Japanese aware editor scramble the text? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 9:33: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C89E37B556; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:32:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA80212; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:32:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA56195; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006281632.KAA56195@harmony.village.org> To: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: vnode_if.h: how should it be done ? Cc: Assar Westerlund , current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:48:22 PDT." References: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:32:49 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Kris Kennaway writes: : On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: : : > They aren't installed. You must have a kernel tree to build the kld. : > Just add vnode_if.h to your SRCS and the rest happens automatically : > via bsd.kmod.mk. It works great. I do it all the time. In fact, I : > added SYSDIR support to bsd.kmod.mk at Timing Solutions so that we : > could compile our drivers outside of the tree. : : As I understand it, this is the only file which is required from the : kernel sources in order to build the arla port. ISTR FiST also needs it to : be present, and I also think I once came across another port that needed : it too. Is it really so wrong to make the lives of these third-party FS : tools harder by requiring full kernel sources to be present? Yes. They must be present. That's the API we have, for good or for ill. In order to get the right interfaces and the right generated files, they have to use the right proceedures. If you have stale or incorrect files, the ports will mysteriously not work. I'll take a look at the ports in question. Likely they are buggy by not using bsd.kmod.mk. Using bsd.kmod.mk is mandatory for kernel modules. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 9:38:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 539D037B556; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA72736; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:35:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:34:58 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net>; from tms2@mail.ptd.net on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: > > > > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to > > generate this information? > > Or perhaps the other way around. That's what I'd prefer. Any solution that relys on trying to parse "structured comments" like that is a kludge at best. I'd rather get all this information in to a usefully structured form now, and then process it to produce the various output formats we need. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 9:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.telemere.net (shell.telemere.net [63.224.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BFB37BF67; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from visigoth@telemere.net) Received: by shell.telemere.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 49BB570601; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.telemere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425FF6C801; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:40:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:40:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Visigoth To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: new ftpd feature... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1676703771-962210422=:67967" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1676703771-962210422=:67967 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sup all? In light of the recent WU-ftpd exploits and general security concearns, I decided to change to a different ftpd.(duh) The largest feature about wu-ftpd that I needed was the ability to specify the passive port range so as to be able to write firewall rulesets with default deny and only a small range of open ports for passive ftp. I decided to integrate the suppport for that into freebsd's native ftpd so that I could use an ftpd that I had faith in. So here it is. These patches are against a brand new -stable so they should work well. Flames, Praise, Wine are all welcome ;) (nothing like the napa valley or a good aussie red) I even updated the man page for easy integration. If somebody commits this, please tell me... thanks Visigoth Damieon Stark Sr. Unix Systems Administrator visigoth@telemere.net PGP Public Key: www.telemere.net/~visigoth/visigoth.asc ____________________________________________________________________________ | M$ -Where do you want to go today? | Linux -Where do you want to go tomorrow?| FreeBSD - The POWER to serve Freebsd -Are you guys comming or what? | http://www.freebsd.org | | - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOVocbjnmC/+RTnGeEQLFUgCg5sKoRD2gj7P+hIssj4zujPgdd/IAoLPk xosQMqmtehAjA6sQb8/DjTI7 =zbKS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0-1676703771-962210422=:67967 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="ftpd.c.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: ftpd patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ftpd.c.patch" 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[169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D10937B717 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31536; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA29145; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:09:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:09:31 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Takahashi Yoshihiro Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf Message-ID: <20000628100931.A29089@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp>; from nyan@wyvern.cc.kogakuin.ac.jp on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:28:31PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:28:31PM +0900, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > I'd like to move {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf from src/release to > src/release/$MACHINE because it needs to use different configuration > file between PC/AT and PC-98 to decrease the size of PC-98 fixit.flp > to 1.2MB. > > In addition, alpha machines don't require the fdisk command, so I > think that it should be removed the fdisk command from > fixit_crunch.conf for alpha. > > Comment? I really like that idea. Alpha binaries are larger than Intel ones, thus when someone tweaks the floppies, often the Alpha ones become too big. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 10:16: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C9637B795; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:16:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12958; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:15:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: Visigoth Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new ftpd feature... References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 28 Jun 2000 19:15:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: Visigoth's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:40:22 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Visigoth writes: > [patches to limit the range of ports used for passive FTP] des@flood ~% sysctl -A | grep portrange net.inet.ip.portrange.lowfirst: 1023 net.inet.ip.portrange.lowlast: 600 net.inet.ip.portrange.first: 1024 net.inet.ip.portrange.last: 5000 net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst: 49152 net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast: 65535 ftpd uses ports in the high range, just adjust the last two sysctls and you'll be fine. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 10:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.telemere.net (shell.telemere.net [63.224.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBABF37BDA3; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from visigoth@telemere.net) Received: by shell.telemere.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A44F170601; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:23:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.telemere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8386C801; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:23:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:23:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Visigoth To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new ftpd feature... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > ftpd uses ports in the high range, just adjust the last two sysctls > and you'll be fine. I understand how IP_PORTRANGE_HIGH and all work, but there are other programs which use these as well, and in at least my application, having support in ftpd is nice... Visigoth Damieon Stark Sr. Unix Systems Administrator visigoth@telemere.net PGP Public Key: www.telemere.net/~visigoth/visigoth.asc ____________________________________________________________________________ | M$ -Where do you want to go today? | Linux -Where do you want to go tomorrow?| FreeBSD - The POWER to serve Freebsd -Are you guys comming or what? | http://www.freebsd.org | | - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBOVomnTnmC/+RTnGeEQJg+gCggr35YOhnCfd2//YEmTJzH/72zKYAn2c4 6lS/dzts0qx97t3NRpUflZti =ZqQI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 10:30:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server1.mich.com (server1.mich.com [198.108.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456FC37B7C7; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (pm016-032.dialup.bignet.net [64.79.82.240]) by server1.mich.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26742; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:30:25 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C747E18C6; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:28:18 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Visigoth Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new ftpd feature... Message-ID: <20000628132818.B8602@argon.gryphonsoft.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from visigoth@telemere.net on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:23:53PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 12:23:53PM -0500, Visigoth wrote: > I understand how IP_PORTRANGE_HIGH and all work, but there are > other programs which use these as well, and in at least my application, > having support in ftpd is nice... I'd have to agree with Visigoth here; system controls should be for EVERYTHING, not just controlling one server. Visigoth could use it for a short-term solution, but in the long term, I think his solution is better (in principle, I didn't look at the code). -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 10:49:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from spirit.jaded.net (shortbus.jaded.net [216.94.132.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E5F37BF08; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@spirit.jaded.net) Received: (from dan@localhost) by spirit.jaded.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00640; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:49:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:49:36 -0400 From: Dan Moschuk To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 11:50:09AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | I disagree. We're not Linux, where people can throw in code without thought | to the wider consequences -- one of the commitments you should make (that's | a generic "you" there, not you specifically) as a FreeBSD committer is to | maintain the documentation that's affected by your changes. A look at | HARDWARE.TXT shows that (with a few notable exceptions) the FreeBSD Developer | Community at large is *not* keeping it up to date. Perhaps it would be a good idea to assign someone the task of just maintaing the HARDWARE.TXT file, rather than expecting all developers to keep documentation up to date? Warner is the gatekeeper for UPDATING, and it seems to work rather well. If there is no one explicitly on the doc project that you'd like doing this, I'd take on the responsibility. -- Dan Moschuk (TFreak!dan@freebsd.org) "Don't get even -- get odd!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11: 8:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E7037B694 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id UAA53931; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:08:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05084; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:08:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:08:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates In-Reply-To: <200006281550.RAA00879@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On 28 Jun, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > >> Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? > >> > >> make update > > > > It will break the system at least 20% of the time. Change 20% to 100% > > for gnome, kde, xpm, png, tiff, jpeg, and so forth. > > I've successfully updated png/tiff/jpeg and some gnome packages > (core/libs, but not from 1.0.x to 1.2.x) this way. 100% is to much, but > even 10% is to much for "make update". > Can the portmaintainer add a flag: NO_UPDATE="major jump in version - keep old version too" Or UPDATE_OK="1.0.3" meaning it's ok to upgrade if the previous version is 1.0.3 or higher. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:11:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901DD37B7D6; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000628181105.JLZS26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:11:05 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01195; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:11:22 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Takahashi Yoshihiro , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf Message-ID: <20000628201122.B1136@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> <20000628100931.A29089@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628100931.A29089@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:09:31AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:09:31AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:28:31PM +0900, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > > I'd like to move {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf from src/release to > > src/release/$MACHINE because it needs to use different configuration > > file between PC/AT and PC-98 to decrease the size of PC-98 fixit.flp > > to 1.2MB. > > > > In addition, alpha machines don't require the fdisk command, so I > > think that it should be removed the fdisk command from > > fixit_crunch.conf for alpha. > > > > Comment? > > I really like that idea. Alpha binaries are larger than Intel ones, thus > when someone tweaks the floppies, often the Alpha ones become too big. Seconded. But Maybe at some point in time we should decide CD[R] is the load medium of choice for Alpha. Or? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:14:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7588037C1D7 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id UAA54088; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:14:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05732; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:11:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:11:13 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates In-Reply-To: <200006281547.RAA00873@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > On 28 Jun, Leif Neland wrote: > > Any reason not to put this into bsd.port.mk? > > > > make update > > - it removes your config files in most cases. Most sane install's either just installs foo.conf.sample, or won't overwrite existing config-files. > - it may break binaries which depend upon a specific library. > - ... Libraries should be marked non-autoupgradable somehow. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:19:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5635437BF0F; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32009; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA29989; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:19:20 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf Message-ID: <20000628111920.E29089@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> <20000628100931.A29089@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000628201122.B1136@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628201122.B1136@freebie.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:11:22PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:11:22PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Seconded. But Maybe at some point in time we should decide CD[R] is the load > medium of choice for Alpha. Or? That would mostly prevent Net installs, and anyone installing snapshots from current.freebsd.org. Do we really want to hang Alpha users out to dry like that? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:21:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6493D37BB6F; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000628182208.FDKM159.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:22:08 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01296; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:21:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:21:09 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Dan Moschuk Cc: Nik Clayton , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628202109.E1136@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net>; from dan@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:49:36PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 01:49:36PM -0400, Dan Moschuk wrote: > > | I disagree. We're not Linux, where people can throw in code without thought > | to the wider consequences -- one of the commitments you should make (that's > | a generic "you" there, not you specifically) as a FreeBSD committer is to > | maintain the documentation that's affected by your changes. A look at > | HARDWARE.TXT shows that (with a few notable exceptions) the FreeBSD Developer > | Community at large is *not* keeping it up to date. > > Perhaps it would be a good idea to assign someone the task of just maintaing > the HARDWARE.TXT file, rather than expecting all developers to keep > documentation up to date? That is what I am currently doing (at least trying to.. ;-) for FreeBSD/alpha. But considering that the alpha community is considerably smaller this might be a problem in the much bigger x86 world. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:21:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDAD37BFE1 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32019; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA30005; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:20:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Leif Neland Cc: Alexander Leidinger , nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, schuerge@wjpserver.CS.Uni-SB.DE, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Check for ports updates Message-ID: <20000628112033.F29089@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006281550.RAA00879@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:08:07PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:08:07PM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: > NO_UPDATE="major jump in version - keep old version too" > Or > UPDATE_OK="1.0.3" > meaning it's ok to upgrade if the previous version is 1.0.3 or higher. You are now *way* into Ports issues. Please move this discussion to ports@freebsd.org where the audience is more versed on the implications of this. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:26:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2737337C0E7; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000628182733.FEWQ159.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:33 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01349; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:26:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:26:35 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf Message-ID: <20000628202635.F1136@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> <20000628100931.A29089@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000628201122.B1136@freebie.wbnet> <20000628111920.E29089@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628111920.E29089@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:19:20AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:19:20AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:11:22PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Seconded. But Maybe at some point in time we should decide CD[R] is the load > > medium of choice for Alpha. Or? > > That would mostly prevent Net installs, and anyone installing snapshots > from current.freebsd.org. Do we really want to hang Alpha users out to > dry like that? Rather, I mean a *small* bootable CD image like NetBSD uses, essentially a 'super floppy'. Which would then be suitable for a Net install too. There is already a LS120 (?) image similar to that I think. Makes sense? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:45:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from spirit.jaded.net (shortbus.jaded.net [216.94.132.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A8C37C198; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@spirit.jaded.net) Received: (from dan@localhost) by spirit.jaded.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07572; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:45:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:45:25 -0400 From: Dan Moschuk To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Dan Moschuk , Nik Clayton , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628144525.A975@spirit.jaded.net> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> <20000628202109.E1136@freebie.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000628202109.E1136@freebie.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 08:21:09PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | > Perhaps it would be a good idea to assign someone the task of just maintaing | > the HARDWARE.TXT file, rather than expecting all developers to keep | > documentation up to date? | | That is what I am currently doing (at least trying to.. ;-) for | FreeBSD/alpha. But considering that the alpha community is considerably | smaller this might be a problem in the much bigger x86 world. Right, but as someone that reads all the commit messages, catching new driver support and updating is more of a mundane task than anything. If maintainers emailed when they added new support (like when an entry in UPDATING is needed) it's even easier. -- Dan Moschuk (TFreak!dan@freebsd.org) "Don't get even -- get odd!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 11:49:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D21D37B871; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA51679; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:50:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "David O'Brien" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf In-Reply-To: <20000628202635.F1136@freebie.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: >Rather, I mean a *small* bootable CD image like NetBSD uses, essentially >a 'super floppy'. Which would then be suitable for a Net install too. >There is already a LS120 (?) image similar to that I think. Which, btw, would be a nifty thing to have if you've got an alpha capable of bootstrapping over the network. I've just installed NetBSD/sparc on a couple of sparcs using NetBSD's boot.net images and an NFS mounted root directory as the install media. It's very cool and saved me the trouble of tracking down a SCSI floppy or CDROM. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 12:30:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA9F37C150; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000628193001.KESF26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:30:01 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01840; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:30:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:30:18 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Dan Moschuk Cc: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000628213018.E1596@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> <20000628202109.E1136@freebie.wbnet> <20000628144525.A975@spirit.jaded.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000628144525.A975@spirit.jaded.net>; from dan@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 02:45:25PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 02:45:25PM -0400, Dan Moschuk wrote: > > | > Perhaps it would be a good idea to assign someone the task of just maintaing > | > the HARDWARE.TXT file, rather than expecting all developers to keep > | > documentation up to date? > | > | That is what I am currently doing (at least trying to.. ;-) for > | FreeBSD/alpha. But considering that the alpha community is considerably > | smaller this might be a problem in the much bigger x86 world. > > Right, but as someone that reads all the commit messages, catching new > driver support and updating is more of a mundane task than anything. If > maintainers emailed when they added new support (like when an entry in > UPDATING is needed) it's even easier. We can always dream, can we? ;-) I don't read all commit messages, rather procmail sifts: # want commit messages related to alpha saved :0: * ^Subject:.*cvs commit.*alpha $MAILDIR/commit-mail the alpha stuff from them. -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 13:16:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D383E37BCE8 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:15:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA93180; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:12:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01240; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:04:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200006281904.UAA01240@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Julian Elischer , current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Huh? ssh stopped working with new kernel. In-Reply-To: Message from Alfred Perlstein of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:30:26 PDT." <20000627133026.Q275@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:04:27 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Julian Elischer [000627 12:36] wrote: > > So I cvsupped yesterday, and tehn made a new kernel. > > so suddenly ssh doesn't work any more. > > cvsup again and recompile and reload the randomdev module, it should > resume working. And ``sed -n /^20000624:$/,/^$/p /usr/src/UPDATING'' > -Alfred -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 13:23:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3465B37C184 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:23:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8B521F66; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:23:17 +0200 From: Pascal Hofstee To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? Message-ID: <20000628222317.A3475@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Disabling protocol version 1 Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 man 8 ssl results into the following: No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual This has been working just fine for months before. I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. Anyone care to explain this ? -- Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 13:28:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C280B37C04A for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07483; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA11846; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11842; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:28:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:28:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Pascal Hofstee Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-Reply-To: <20000628222317.A3475@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice about the new randomdev. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors > like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > Disabling protocol version 1 > Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 > > > man 8 ssl results into the following: > No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual > > This has been working just fine for months before. > I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. > > Anyone care to explain this ? > > -- > Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 13:30:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4F337C184 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4EEFE1F67; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:30:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:30:48 +0200 From: Pascal Hofstee To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? Message-ID: <20000628223048.B3475@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl References: <20000628222317.A3475@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from culverk@wam.umd.edu on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice > about the new randomdev. Stumbled over it right after i sent the email .... sorry -- Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 13:35: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5BF37B968 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:34:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29144; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA12463; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12459; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:34:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:34:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Pascal Hofstee Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-Reply-To: <20000628223048.B3475@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nothing to be sorry about... just read a little more carefully :-) ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice > > about the new randomdev. > > Stumbled over it right after i sent the email .... sorry > > -- > Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 16:54:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CB1A37B554 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 8977 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 23:54:17 -0000 Received: from acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net (63.90.94.131) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 23:54:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:54:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Donn Miller X-Sender: dmmiller@acs-63-90-94-131.zoominternet.net To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Strange make buildworld problem... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Recently, the make world problems with perl have been fixed, and I can do a make world all the way through, provided I do a make world the first time only. However, I did a cvsup to update my source tree again after the first make world. I did a make -DNOCLEAN buildworld with /usr/obj untouched. I get this: >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 build-tools cd /usr/src/bin/sh; make build-tools cd /usr/src/games/adventure; make build-tools cd /usr/src/games/hack; make build-tools cd /usr/src/games/phantasia; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771; make build-tools cd /usr/src/lib/libncurses; make build-tools cd /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl; make build-tools cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools make: don't know how to make /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/types.h. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Again, this is after re-making buildworld with -DNOCLEAN after a successful first make buildworld. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 17:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F269C37BA69 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82349; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:14:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA59879; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290014.SAA59879@harmony.village.org> To: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: USB modems Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:50:58 BST." References: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:14:38 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Bob Bishop writes: : Can anyone give a quick synopsis of the current status of support for USB : modems? TIA They aren't supported yet. There's at least one group that might be working on them. The value of supporting them is well known. Take care in your purcahse of a usb modem because some of them expect an isochronous audio stream... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 17:19:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138B437B9FF; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82373; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:19:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA59924; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290019.SAA59924@harmony.village.org> To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:27:12 EDT." <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> References: <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:19:31 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> "Thomas M. Sommers" writes: : Warner Losh wrote: : > : > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to : > generate this information? : : Or perhaps the other way around. No. I'm saying that the .c and .h files (likely .h) are the source to the driver and driver maintanier are 1000% more likely to keep those up to date than they are xxx.xml. Right now, with modules, you can easily not have to worry about any config issues outside of those files. Forcing a doc file just to get docs and breaking this is undesirable. Expanding what the driver writers are already doing a little seems like a smarter move. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 17:21: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05B537BA69; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:20:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82384; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:20:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA59947; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:20:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290020.SAA59947@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: Hiroki Sato , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:31:46 BST." <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:20:50 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : Or does loading Japanese text in to a non-Japanese aware editor scramble : the text? It can, if the user editing the text isn't careful, or the editor likes to do too many things automatically. Generally speaking, however, it shouldn't be a big problem. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 17:24:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7783D37BA69; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82400; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:24:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA59981; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: "Thomas M. Sommers" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:34:58 BST." <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:24:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: : > Warner Losh wrote: : > > : > > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to : > > generate this information? : > : > Or perhaps the other way around. : : That's what I'd prefer. Any solution that relys on trying to parse : "structured comments" like that is a kludge at best. I'd rather get : all this information in to a usefully structured form now, and then : process it to produce the various output formats we need. I think that this will doom the information to always being obsolete. If the information is in the .h or .c files, then it will be looked at (and corrected) all the time by the programmers. If not, then it will rot as badly as LINT has been rotting. It has taken much effort to keep LINT as non-rotten as it has been kept. Then again, there are some comments in the kernel that are in good need of a swift kick to the head as well since they have rotted beyond all usefulness in the source they are in. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 17:28:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078637C2D5; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA82427; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:28:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA60030; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006290028.SAA60030@harmony.village.org> To: Dan Moschuk Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:49:36 EDT." <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> References: <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <7mvgyw4u04.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:28:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000628134936.A524@spirit.jaded.net> Dan Moschuk writes: : Perhaps it would be a good idea to assign someone the task of just maintaing : the HARDWARE.TXT file, rather than expecting all developers to keep : documentation up to date? This can be difficult to do. It will take someone with enough cycles to grok the new hardware support, as well as monitoring lists for reports of trouble, etc. : Warner is the gatekeeper for UPDATING, and it seems to work rather well. Yes. Sometimes less well than other times. when I have about 2 hours a week to spend on it or more, it works a lot better than when I'm completely swamped... I think it is working because I wanted to stop the whining in -current about how hard it was to keep up with current. UPDATING has gone from a very terse warning bulletin to a less terse, fairly useful document as the rough spots in the road get written up well by others and I pick from the N different copies I get. Still, it is somewhat quirky. I'd Kinda like to see it somehow on the web pages updated in near real time (well, daily is close enough :-) : I'd take on the responsibility. Good luck! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 18: 7:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED86637B550; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-130.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.130]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25787; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA44911; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:07:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Hiroki Sato , nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 28 Jun 2000 18:06:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:31:46 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Nik Clayton * Possibly. I was thinking that the only thing that would be language * specific about each driver would be the comment section. * * ... * * All the other stuff is language independent. * * That being the case, it wouldn't be too hard to do * * ... * * ... * * and so on, would it? * * Or does loading Japanese text in to a non-Japanese aware editor scramble * the text? With ja_JP.eucJP, it certainly would, since that's an 8-bit encoding. If you use JIS, it should be ok (as long as people pretend they don't see all the ^['s hanging around and don't try to do anything cute). Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 19:34:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (zoom1-150.telepath.com [216.14.1.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB1B37BAD1 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 10488 invoked by uid 100); 29 Jun 2000 02:33:29 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14682.46457.71995.372686@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:33:29 -0500 (CDT) To: Warner Losh Cc: Bob Bishop , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB modems In-Reply-To: <200006290014.SAA59879@harmony.village.org> References: <200006290014.SAA59879@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh writes: > In message Bob Bishop writes: > : Can anyone give a quick synopsis of the current status of support for USB > : modems? TIA > They aren't supported yet. There's at least one group that might be > working on them. The value of supporting them is well known. Take > care in your purcahse of a usb modem because some of them expect an > isochronous audio stream... Nick (and I, for that matter) have a umodem.c that works, for some definition of "works". It seems to work fine on USR USB modems. On the Supra I bought (because it was easily available), it works for dialout and makes PPP connections, but outgoing IP connections fail under an indeterminate set of conditions. It's not clear where the problem is - I'll be investigating it as soon as I once again have free time (a couple of weeks). Nick has indicated he was going to try this version and commit it, but it hasn't happened yet. ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00653; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03674; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006281721.KAA03674@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200006280604.IAA14619@grimreaper.grondar.za> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Mark Murray Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Jun-00 Mark Murray wrote: >> ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B >> make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop > > OK - I know how to fix this. > > Thanks for the report! Thanks. :) > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 20:27:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A41037C37A for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00660; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03665; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006281721.KAA03665@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Edwin Culp Subject: RE: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-Jun-00 Edwin Culp wrote: > I have 5 machines running current. All are booting fine with the > changes made on June 12, with the exception of a k-6 laptop. I have > been booting the kernel.works since the changes and can't seem to get > something right. I have tried with my original kernel configuration and > now have been trying with the GENERIC configuration and GENERIC.hints. > When I try to boot with my new kernel I get: > > BTX loader 1.0 BTX version is 1.01 > Console: internal video/keyboard > BIOS drive A: is disk0 > BIOS drive B: is disk1 > BIOS 639kB/97280kB available memory > > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 > root@casa.local.net Mon June 26 12:37:44 PDT 2000 > > int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb > eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 > esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 > cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb RDMSR instruction. It's trying to read an MSR (Model Specific Register) from the CPU. In this case, one that is not documented in Intel's manuals. Thus, it is either an undocmented MSR or a K6-only MSR. > ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 > System halted > > I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. > > Any suggestions will be appreciated. Rev 1.18 of sys/boot/i386/btx/btx/btx.s should fix this. Try doing an ftp install of a really recent snap from current.FreeBSD.org. > Thanks, > > ed -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 20:27:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B4D37BAF3; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00627; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:27:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04480; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006290222.TAA04480@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: RE: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , Edwin Culp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-Jun-00 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 27-Jun-00 Edwin Culp wrote: >> I have 5 machines running current. All are booting fine with the >> changes made on June 12, with the exception of a k-6 laptop. I have >> been booting the kernel.works since the changes and can't seem to get >> something right. I have tried with my original kernel configuration and >> now have been trying with the GENERIC configuration and GENERIC.hints. >> When I try to boot with my new kernel I get: >> >> BTX loader 1.0 BTX version is 1.01 >> Console: internal video/keyboard >> BIOS drive A: is disk0 >> BIOS drive B: is disk1 >> BIOS 639kB/97280kB available memory >> >> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 >> root@casa.local.net Mon June 26 12:37:44 PDT 2000 >> >> int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb >> eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 >> esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 >> cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb > > RDMSR instruction. It's trying to read an MSR (Model > Specific Register) from the CPU. In this case, one that > is not documented in Intel's manuals. Thus, it is either > an undocmented MSR or a K6-only MSR. > >> ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 >> System halted >> >> I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. >> >> Any suggestions will be appreciated. > > Rev 1.18 of sys/boot/i386/btx/btx/btx.s should fix this. Try > doing an ftp install of a really recent snap from > current.FreeBSD.org. Augh! I found out that actually rev 1.18 contained a bug causing this problem. Rev 1.19 of btx.s should actually fix this. Sorry. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 22:14: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0A737B72C for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00840; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04749; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006290514.WAA04749@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000628212831P.nyan@dd.catv.ne.jp> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Takahashi Yoshihiro Subject: RE: The position of {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Jun-00 Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to move {boot,fixit}_crunch.conf from src/release to > src/release/$MACHINE because it needs to use different configuration > file between PC/AT and PC-98 to decrease the size of PC-98 fixit.flp > to 1.2MB. > > In addition, alpha machines don't require the fdisk command, so I > think that it should be removed the fdisk command from > fixit_crunch.conf for alpha. Actually, I'd add the src/release/${MACHINE} dir, but only move a conf file if you need to. For instance, if you rip the unused /usr/src/sbin/${MACHINE_ARCH} dir from boot_crunch.conf, it will work on the alpha again and will be the same for all platforms. Only the fixit floppy actually differs at the moment. You can implement this by checking for src/release/${MACHINE}/${conf_file} first and fallback to src/release/${conf_file} if you don't find the first one. > Comment? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 22:14:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3276337C468 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00834; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04745; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006290514.WAA04745@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Donn Miller Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , Edwin Culp , Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Jun-00 Donn Miller wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > >> In message <3958C666.F747A99@EnContacto.Net> Edwin Culp writes: >> : int=0000000d err=00000000 eft=00010046 eip=000092eb >> : eax=000000fb ebx=00000000 ecx=00000152 edx=000003f6 >> : esi=000fbc92 edi=000f0000 ebp=000017b4 esp=000017b4 >> : cs:eip=0f 32 89 45 1c 89 55 14-46 eb cf 80 65 31 fd eb >> : ss:esp=08 00 00 00 1c 9c 00 00-fe 0e 00 00 d4 17 00 00 >> : System halted >> : >> : I copied this manually since I don't have a console on the laptop. >> >> I'd try booting the old kernel and seeing if doing a completely clean >> build fixes this. I'd also try to reboot after power off. > > It looks like the optimization bug that's been biting kernel builds > lately. When Peter Wemm made the overhaul to the kernel config, strange > things started happening when optimization higher than -O was used to > build the kernel. For example, I got a Fatal Trap 12 immediately after > the probe for available memory. I was using -Os to compile my kernel at > the time. Backing down to -O for kernel builds solved this, and boots > proceeded normally. Ok, not directed at you personally, but for future reference: This is a BTX fault. Kernel traps do not look like this. If you see this, you haven't even loaded the kernel yet and thus your problem does not come from the kernel. Since we got into the loader, that means that the loader is b0rked. As per this problem, it was due to a stupid error on my part and is fixed in rev 1.19 of /sys/boot/i386/btx/btx.s. Please update your sources and recompile all of /sys/boot/i386. Thank you. > - Donn -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 22:14:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB3137C411 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00832; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04741; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006290514.WAA04741@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <39590B26.5B6FC6BA@EnContacto.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Edwin Culp Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , Donn Miller Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-Jun-00 Edwin Culp wrote: > Donn Miller wrote: > >> Did you compile your kernel with any optimizations, such as -Os? If so, >> try it recompiling it without optimizations. > > Unfortunately, no. I wish that I had, because I'm fresh out of things to > try. It's fixed. It wasn't a kernel problem but a stupid bogon on my part in btx.s. Make sure you have rev 1.19 of /sys/boot/i386/btx/btx/btx.s and rebuild your loader. > Thanks, > > ed -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 22:29:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (hermes.dialup.ru [194.87.16.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1E737BAF9 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28656 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:29:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:29:16 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Message-ID: <20000629092916.A28636@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() Please fix. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 22:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 6A30737BD40; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:59:39 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: John Baldwin Cc: Edwin Culp , "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , Donn Miller Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints Message-ID: <20000628225939.A53060@freebsd.org> References: <39590B26.5B6FC6BA@EnContacto.Net> <200006290514.WAA04741@john.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200006290514.WAA04741@john.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:14:27PM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 10:14:27PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > It's fixed. It wasn't a kernel problem but a stupid bogon on my part > in btx.s. Make sure you have rev 1.19 of /sys/boot/i386/btx/btx/btx.s > and rebuild your loader. > It seems there is a different problem. Fresh -current kernel with fresh -current bootblock loaded ok but hangs in boot (no diagnostics even printed). Kernel from Jun14 with fresh -current bootblocks booted Ok. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 23: 3:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 2261937BB39; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:03:22 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: bug: kernel hangs at boot Message-ID: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fresh -current kernel with fresh -current bootblocks loaded ok but hangs in boot (no diagnostics even printed, just silent hang with "/" on the screen). Kernel from Jun14 with fresh -current bootblocks (i.e. the same bootblocks) booted Ok. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jun 28 23:51:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (blizzard.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0898237BB2A for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:50:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.106]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00597; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:48:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA35155; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:49:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <395AF141.A4A06867@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:48:33 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional References: <20000629092916.A28636@nagual.pp.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and > complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() Here too. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 0:25:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isua5.iastate.edu (isua5.iastate.edu [129.186.1.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E12137B92F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccsanady@iastate.edu) Received: from localhost (ccsanady@localhost) by isua5.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA30609 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RSA support.. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 CDT From: Chris Csanady Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. Since I updated recently, all I get is: ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). I have been off the lists for a bit, so I apologize if I missed something, but this has always been confusing. It used to just work. Now that i doesn't though, I have no clue where to start looking. There appears to be no ssl(8) manpage, or anything in the list archives about this. Thanks, Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 0:32:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.freibergnet.de (pegasus.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D5837B8FE for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holm@pegasus.freibergnet.de) Received: (from holm@localhost) by pegasus.freibergnet.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA16601 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:32:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from holm) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:32:31 +0200 From: Holm Tiffe To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: -current from yesterday ; annoying messages.. Message-ID: <20000629093231.A15828@pegasus.freibergnet.de> Reply-To: holm@freibergnet.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Organization: FreibergNet Internet Services X-Phone: +49-3731-781279 X-Fax: +49-3731-781377 X-PGP-fingerprint: 86 EC A5 63 B5 28 78 13 8B FC E9 09 04 6E 86 FC Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, can pleasee anyone explain what this means and how I can get rid of this ? fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[] WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and ist this normal ? sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 isa0: <@@@0000> found ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ unknown: can't assign resources TIA Holm -- FreibergNet Systemhaus GbR Holm Tiffe * Administration, Development Systemhaus für Daten- und Netzwerktechnik phone +49 3731 781279 Unternehmensgruppe Liebscher & Partner fax +49 3731 781377 D-09599 Freiberg * Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 0:34:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6072D37B94D; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.9.3/1.13) id KAA12890; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:33:44 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:33:44 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Visigoth Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: new ftpd feature... Message-ID: <20000629103344.D10869@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Visigoth , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from des@flood.ping.uio.no on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:15:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:15:58PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Visigoth writes: > > [patches to limit the range of ports used for passive FTP] > > des@flood ~% sysctl -A | grep portrange > net.inet.ip.portrange.lowfirst: 1023 > net.inet.ip.portrange.lowlast: 600 > net.inet.ip.portrange.first: 1024 > net.inet.ip.portrange.last: 5000 > net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst: 49152 > net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast: 65535 > > ftpd uses ports in the high range, just adjust the last two sysctls > and you'll be fine. > I had a firewall set up in this configuration (allowing "anonymous" connects to the high portrange and denying otherwise). It was great. I can not see the reason why ftpd(8) would need an explicit portrange. -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 0:55:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B96337B8FE; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 7C5C12DC0A; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:01:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4FCB07817; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3810E17; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:53:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:53:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Warner Losh Cc: "Thomas M. Sommers" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: <200006290019.SAA59924@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> "Thomas M. Sommers" writes: > : Warner Losh wrote: > : > > : > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to > : > generate this information? > : > : Or perhaps the other way around. > > No. I'm saying that the .c and .h files (likely .h) are the source to > the driver and driver maintanier are 1000% more likely to keep those > up to date than they are xxx.xml. Right now, with modules, you can > easily not have to worry about any config issues outside of those > files. Forcing a doc file just to get docs and breaking this is > undesirable. Expanding what the driver writers are already doing > a little seems like a smarter move. Hmmm.. What if we define a set of macros that are required in order to properly register the driver, but at the same time contain fields like "descr", "syntax"... Something similar to sysctl descriptions.. Oops, perhaps not the best example... ;-) Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 0:58:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8437BB2E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16167; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:58:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: new fetch(1) From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 29 Jun 2000 09:58:20 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (sorry for not posting this immediately after the commit) I've replaced fetch(1) with a libfetch-based implementation. It should support all the flags the old implementation does, except for -h and -f; if anyone notices something missing or not working as it should, please notify me as soon as possible so I can fix the problems quickly, as I want to get this into -STABLE in time for 4.1. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 3:14:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253A437B5A2 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137bKh-0004qo-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:14:07 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Donn Miller Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange make buildworld problem... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:54:17 -0400." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:14:07 +0200 Message-ID: <18649.962273647@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:54:17 -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > Again, this is after re-making buildworld with -DNOCLEAN after a > successful first make buildworld. Any chance the sources changed between buildworlds? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 3:17: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51BA37BB59 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137bNL-0004sB-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:16:51 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 CDT." <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:16:51 +0200 Message-ID: <18734.962273811@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 CDT, Chris Csanady wrote: > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). This is the system's way of punishing you for neglecting your cvs-all mail, your freebsd-current mail and your src/UPDATING file. Your kernel is lacking support for the random device. Do your reading and smile. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 3:37:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isua5.iastate.edu (isua5.iastate.edu [129.186.1.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FB437C14F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccsanady@iastate.edu) Received: from localhost (ccsanady@localhost) by isua5.iastate.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA02361; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200006291037.FAA02361@isua5.iastate.edu> To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:16:51 +0200. <18734.962273811@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:37:35 CDT From: Chris Csanady Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 CDT, Chris Csanady wrote: > >> I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. >> Since I updated recently, all I get is: >> >> ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > >This is the system's way of punishing you for neglecting your cvs-all >mail, your freebsd-current mail and your src/UPDATING file. Hmm, I read through UPDATING, but didn't find much about this.. >Your kernel is lacking support for the random device. Do your reading >and smile. :-) I have been off the lists for a while, yes. :) Thanks very much for this tidbit.. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 3:40:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E4737B92E for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137bkV-0004yB-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:47 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:37:35 CDT." <200006291037.FAA02361@isua5.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:47 +0200 Message-ID: <19106.962275247@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:37:35 CDT, Chris Csanady wrote: > Hmm, I read through UPDATING, but didn't find much about this.. Hmm, you're right; it doesn't explicitly say you need option RANDOMDEV in your kernel config. It just warns you about the state of the entropy harvesting. The exact "HowTo Enable" stuff was covered in a HEADS UP message, but as you said, you've been off the lists. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 4:29:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE10937BC08 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id UAA17493; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:29:22 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma017377; Thu, 29 Jun 00 20:28:41 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp ([192.168.7.250]) by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id UAA18986; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:28:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.ttr.kubota.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-02/21/99) with ESMTP id UAA51492; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:27:28 +0900 (JST) To: holm@freibergnet.de Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, kuwa@flab.fujitsu.co.jp Subject: Re: -current from yesterday ; annoying messages.. In-Reply-To: <20000629093231.A15828@pegasus.freibergnet.de> References: <20000629093231.A15828@pegasus.freibergnet.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000629202727R.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:27:27 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 62 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, From: Holm Tiffe Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:32:31 +0200 ::Hi, ::can pleasee anyone explain what this means and how I can get rid of this ? :: ::fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 ::fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold ::fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ::fd1: <1200-KB 5.25" drive> on fdc0 drive 1 ::WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s cdevsw[] ::WARNING: "fd" is usurping "fd"'s bmaj ::^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ :: ::and ist this normal ? Because you have two floppy drives, and cdevsw_add() is being called twice. The following patch should fix it. This patch was originaly created by Kuwamura-san for PC98 fd driver. It's been working for me, for few month. ---8<------8<------8<------8<--- Cut Here ---8<------8<------8<------8<--- --- sys/isa/fd.c.orig Fri May 26 12:20:36 2000 +++ sys/isa/fd.c Thu Jun 29 20:14:11 2000 @@ -1099,10 +1099,14 @@ int typemynor; int typesize; #endif + static int32_t fd_cdev_done = 0; fd = device_get_softc(dev); - cdevsw_add(&fd_cdevsw); /* XXX */ + if (!fd_cdev_done) { + cdevsw_add(&fd_cdevsw); /* XXX */ + fd_cdev_done++; + } make_dev(&fd_cdevsw, (fd->fdu << 6), UID_ROOT, GID_OPERATOR, 0640, "rfd%d", fd->fdu); ---8<------8<------8<------8<--- Cut Here ---8<------8<------8<------8<--- ::sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 ::sio1: type 16550A ::vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ::isa0: <@@@0000> found ::^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ::unknown: can't assign resources Same here. I also would like to know about it. Hope this helps, Haro =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 6: 7:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA4837BB9D for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:07:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA60029 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:08:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:08:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: current@freebsd.org Subject: panic in sbdrop on SMP, kernel approx 9 days old Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This morning my cable modem went out and it returned to service while I was out of the room. When I returned I was greeted by fsck; I'm not sure if this is related to networking somehow but I figured I'd report it anyway. This computer has 3 nics, does bridging across two, and provides nat to the third. Kernel is about as old as the uptime was. As usual, any more info wanted, just ask. gdb -k /sys/compile/SAPPHIRE-SMP3/kernel.debug vmcore.0 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... SMP 2 cpus IdlePTD 3375104 initial pcb at 2b83c0 panicstr: sbdrop panic messages: --- panic: sbdrop mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 boot() called on cpu#1 syncing disks... 1 done Uptime: 8d18h3m30s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 8192 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 1 05 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 7 6 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 4 5 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 1 4 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 303 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 #1 0xc015a62d in panic (fmt=0xc0257d06 "sbdrop") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 #2 0xc017b500 in sbdrop (sb=0xc8572074, len=65392) at ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:927 #3 0xc017b390 in sbflush (sb=0xc8572074) at ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:906 #4 0xc017ae55 in sbrelease (sb=0xc8572074, so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:589 #5 0xc01783cb in sofree (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:250 #6 0xc0178502 in soclose (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:316 #7 0xc016de8a in soo_close (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../kern/sys_socket.c:183 #8 0xc014e3ad in fdrop (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../sys/file.h:212 #9 0xc014e2f3 in closef (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1079 #10 0xc014e044 in fdfree (p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:945 #11 0xc0150779 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=256) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:186 #12 0xc01505e0 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=0) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:103 #13 0xc02407e9 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 672387072, tf_esi = 13118054, tf_ebp = -1077941132, tf_isp = -917430316, tf_ebx = 672371384, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1077941184, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 672019908, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1077941160, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 #14 0xc022e9fb in Xint0x80_syscall () cannot read proc at 0 (kgdb) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 7:18:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.139.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5411C37BC62 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (hak.nat.Awfulhak.org [172.31.0.12]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00429; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:18:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04001; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:18:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200006291418.PAA04001@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-Reply-To: Message from Kenneth Wayne Culver of "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:28:24 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:18:34 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice > about the new randomdev. This doesn't explain why it suggests that the user reads a non-existent man page (ssl(8)) :-P > ================================================================= > | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | > | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | > | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | > | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| > ================================================================= > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > > Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors > > like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: > > > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > Disabling protocol version 1 > > Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 > > > > > > man 8 ssl results into the following: > > No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual > > > > This has been working just fine for months before. > > I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. > > > > Anyone care to explain this ? > > > > -- > > Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > > > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 7:25:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEB037BCEF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (root@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.150]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29726; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15589; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15585; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Brian Somers Cc: Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-Reply-To: <200006291418.PAA04001@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hrmm, I think I just read somewhere (/usr/src/UPDATING?) that crypto is required to get a make world to work, and I guess certain other things won't work as well until you rebuild (?) :-) (:-P) > > if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice > > about the new randomdev. > > This doesn't explain why it suggests that the user reads a > non-existent man page (ssl(8)) :-P > > > ================================================================= > > | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | > > | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | > > | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | > > | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | > > | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| > > ================================================================= > > > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: > > > > > Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors > > > like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: > > > > > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > > Disabling protocol version 1 > > > Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 > > > > > > > > > man 8 ssl results into the following: > > > No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual > > > > > > This has been working just fine for months before. > > > I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. > > > > > > Anyone care to explain this ? > > > > > > -- > > > Pascal Hofstee < daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl > > > > Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 7:45:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.2.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDC37B5CF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:45:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 137fXp-0009wD-00; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:43:57 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Kenneth Wayne Culver Cc: Brian Somers , Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:43:57 +0200 Message-ID: <38204.962289837@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > Hrmm, I think I just read somewhere (/usr/src/UPDATING?) that crypto is > required to get a make world to work, and I guess certain other things > won't work as well until you rebuild (?) :-) (:-P) You're grasping at straws, since the ssl(8) manual page isn't installed. The base system's openssl maintainer still isn't sure what to do about the docs. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 7:52:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF2E37B578 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (root@rac10.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.150]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25589; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac10.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18454; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac10.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18449; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:50:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac10.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Brian Somers , Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ? In-Reply-To: <38204.962289837@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :-) Well, I didn't know that... That could explain it. ================================================================= | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| ================================================================= On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > > > Hrmm, I think I just read somewhere (/usr/src/UPDATING?) that crypto is > > required to get a make world to work, and I guess certain other things > > won't work as well until you rebuild (?) :-) (:-P) > > You're grasping at straws, since the ssl(8) manual page isn't installed. > The base system's openssl maintainer still isn't sure what to do about > the docs. :-) > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 8:26:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2101C37B78D; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29040; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:42:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:42:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: Nik Clayton , "Thomas M. Sommers" , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Message-ID: <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 06:24:01PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 06:24:01PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: > : On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:27:12AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > : > Warner Losh wrote: > : > > > : > > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to > : > > generate this information? > : > > : > Or perhaps the other way around. > : > : That's what I'd prefer. Any solution that relys on trying to parse > : "structured comments" like that is a kludge at best. I'd rather get > : all this information in to a usefully structured form now, and then > : process it to produce the various output formats we need. > > I think that this will doom the information to always being obsolete. > If the information is in the .h or .c files, then it will be looked at > (and corrected) all the time by the programmers. If not, then it will > rot as badly as LINT has been rotting. It has taken much effort to > keep LINT as non-rotten as it has been kept. The .h file(s) should be generated from this XML config file, or some other mechanism needs to be put in place to prevent a (hardware) module from working if there isn't a functional entry for it in this XML config file. We've successfully demonstrated that hardware authors don't keep things like LINT up to date. We've also successfully demonstrated that getting volunteers to scan the mailing lists and keep HARDWARE.TXT and similar up to date is equally futile. It's time to turn the tables. I don't know enough about the -current build environment to say precisely how this could be done (yet). But God help you all if I scrape together sufficient resources to put together a box for -current. In the meantime, I'd appreciate suggestions as to how you (or anyone else) would go about abstracting some of the core information that a driver needs out of a source file. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 8:41:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3726C37B6E0 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:41:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA94958; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:41:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006291541.LAA94958@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADS UP: new fetch(1) In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > I've replaced fetch(1) with a libfetch-based implementation. It introduces numerous style bugs in both code and documentation, and furthermore claims copyright on text in the manual page which I wrote. It also removes support for a number of important features. On the positive site, it certainly looks a lot cleaner than the old implementation. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 8:58:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1F137BC0D; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA86152; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:58:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA34002; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:58:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: "Thomas M. Sommers" , doc@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:42:57 BST." <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:58:11 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Nik Clayton writes: : The .h file(s) should be generated from this XML config file, or some other : mechanism needs to be put in place to prevent a (hardware) module from : working if there isn't a functional entry for it in this XML config file. : : We've successfully demonstrated that hardware authors don't keep things : like LINT up to date. We've also successfully demonstrated that getting : volunteers to scan the mailing lists and keep HARDWARE.TXT and similar : up to date is equally futile. : : It's time to turn the tables. I'd violently oppose this. I'd rather see the XML file generated from the .h files that we already use to build the system with. You would be making it just as hard to keep things up to date with little gain from the programmer's point of view. You need to make it easier for the programmer to keep things up to date rather than harder. : I don't know enough about the -current build environment to say precisely : how this could be done (yet). But God help you all if I scrape together : sufficient resources to put together a box for -current. : : In the meantime, I'd appreciate suggestions as to how you (or anyone else) : would go about abstracting some of the core information that a driver needs : out of a source file. While I hate the idea, I'd love to see what you'd come up with. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 10:38:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADF937BC5B; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA95364; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:38:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006291738.NAA95364@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: obrien@FreeBSD.org Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/isc-dhcp - Imported sources In-Reply-To: <20000629100125.E33366@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200006290733.IAA00439@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000629100125.E33366@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > 1. Everyone uses /bin/csh (show me a box that has never had root login at > least once. I can show you several boxes where first thing root did after logging in was to configure itself for a Real Shell(tm). I personally would be much happier if root's default shell were /bin/sh (as it is on all of the new non-FreeBSD boxes we have around here). -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 10:45:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us (fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us [192.58.220.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B05037C0B1 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnu@wraith.sf.ca.us) Received: from wraith.sf.ca.us (night.wraith.sf.ca.us [192.58.220.13]) by fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA55295 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: roots shell == /bin/sh please Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:44:56 -0700 From: gnu not unix Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. Is the /bin/sh in freebsd more buggy than, say, the solaris /bin/sh? If so, thats's probably why it's currently /bin/csh. I could also live with /bin/bash as root's shell. Not sure why bash is not part of freebsd "core" anyways. ../Steven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 10:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82E737B528 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16708; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) From: Steve Kargl Message-Id: <200006291756.KAA16708@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please In-Reply-To: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> from gnu not unix at "Jun 29, 2000 10:44:56 am" To: gnu not unix Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG gnu not unix wrote: > > I could also live with /bin/bash as root's shell. > Not sure why bash is not part of freebsd "core" anyways. > GPL. Bloat. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 10:54:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server1.mich.com (server1.mich.com [198.108.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7156837C3C8 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (pm011-006.dialup.bignet.net [64.79.81.230]) by server1.mich.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22235; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:54:03 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C46091992; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:54 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: gnu not unix Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please Message-ID: <20000629135154.F24486@argon.gryphonsoft.com> References: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us>; from gnu@wraith.sf.ca.us on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:44:56AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:44:56AM -0700, gnu not unix wrote: > My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. Mine too. > Is the /bin/sh in freebsd more buggy than, say, the solaris /bin/sh? > If so, thats's probably why it's currently /bin/csh. I doubt it; Solaris /bin/sh is likely more buggy. > I could also live with /bin/bash as root's shell. > Not sure why bash is not part of freebsd "core" anyways. Because BASH is infected by the GPV? =) -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11: 0:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F97437BA16 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15751; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:13:37 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006281213.OAA15751@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Mak References: <20000628102215.A45652@mithrandr.moria.org> In-Reply-To: <20000628102215.A45652@mithrandr.moria.org> ; from Neil Blakey-Milner "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:22:15 +0200." Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:13:37 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The choice to use crosstools is easier, since it by default installs the > tool into the "strict path", but Mark used build-tools and a path to > miniperl to do it instead, presumably since it is restricted to a very > minor bit of the tree. Also because miniperl and libperl want libm, and that breaks at build time because it cannot be found. :-( M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11: 0:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C2C37B978 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:00:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15769; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:14:58 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006281214.OAA15769@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "George W. Dinolt" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl ... References: <3959BA98.69D3D1E3@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <3959BA98.69D3D1E3@pacbell.net> ; from "George W. Dinolt" "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:43:04 MST." Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:14:58 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I am not sure who is supposed to manage the fact that > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk doesn't yet know about perl-5.006. One > appears to need to set PERL_VER and PERL_VERSION. I just added an ."if > {OSVERSION} >= 500006" , but this clearly isn't enough for people who > have yet to upgrade to the newest "current'. Does this mean that the > OSVERSION needs to be incremented to indicate the perl upgrade? I need to get this past Satoshi. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11: 1:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0D037B9AC; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15674; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:09:34 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006281209.OAA15674@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Mak References: <200006270941.CAA00980@john.baldwin.cx> In-Reply-To: <200006270941.CAA00980@john.baldwin.cx> ; from John Baldwin "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:41:25 MST." Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:09:34 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the > > installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't > > have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used > > throughout the build and install stages. > > I think that's what we have in this case. We need the newer version of > miniperl to build perl, correct? Yes, and it is doing that now. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11: 6:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68EB37C051; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18342; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:06:14 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray Cc: John Baldwin , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bootstrapping perl (Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl Mak In-Reply-To: <200006281209.OAA15674@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Adding something to bootstrap-tools implies that we can't use the > > > installed miniperl (backward compatibility problem) or the host doesn't > > > have miniperl. The bootstrap-tools built miniperl would then be used > > > throughout the build and install stages. > > > > I think that's what we have in this case. We need the newer version of > > miniperl to build perl, correct? > > Yes, and it is doing that now. Except on alpha. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:13: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5078C37BB95 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:12:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA66853; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:12:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Donn Miller Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange make buildworld problem... Message-ID: <20000629111246.A66477@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from dmmiller@cvzoom.net on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > make: don't know how to make > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/types.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 This is what I got when I tried to ``make -DNOCLEAN buildworld'' after the Perl 5.006 upgrade. Perl is being built at the wrong time, or a dependacy is missing. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:27:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE6537BC81 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 560ED2B233; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:27:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:27:16 -0700 From: Paul Saab To: Adam Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic in sbdrop on SMP, kernel approx 9 days old Message-ID: <20000629112715.A19053@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from bsdx@looksharp.net on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 09:08:06AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What is the hardware in this box? Do you have an NCR scsi controller using the ncr driver? paul Adam (bsdx@looksharp.net) wrote: > This morning my cable modem went out and it returned to service while I > was out of the room. When I returned I was greeted by fsck; I'm not sure > if this is related to networking somehow but I figured I'd report it > anyway. This computer has 3 nics, does bridging across two, and provides > nat to the third. Kernel is about as old as the uptime was. As usual, > any more info wanted, just ask. > > gdb -k /sys/compile/SAPPHIRE-SMP3/kernel.debug vmcore.0 > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you > are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for > details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > SMP 2 cpus > IdlePTD 3375104 > initial pcb at 2b83c0 > panicstr: sbdrop > panic messages: > --- > panic: sbdrop > mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 > boot() called on cpu#1 > > syncing disks... 1 > done > Uptime: 8d18h3m30s > > dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 8192 > dump ata0: resetting devices .. done > 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 > 110 109 108 107 106 1 > 05 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 > 82 81 80 79 78 77 7 > 6 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 > 51 50 49 48 47 46 4 > 5 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 > 20 19 18 17 16 15 1 > 4 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 > --- > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 > 303 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); > (kgdb) bt > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 > #1 0xc015a62d in panic (fmt=0xc0257d06 "sbdrop") at > ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 > #2 0xc017b500 in sbdrop (sb=0xc8572074, len=65392) at > ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:927 > #3 0xc017b390 in sbflush (sb=0xc8572074) at ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:906 > #4 0xc017ae55 in sbrelease (sb=0xc8572074, so=0xc8572000) at > ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:589 > #5 0xc01783cb in sofree (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:250 > #6 0xc0178502 in soclose (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:316 > #7 0xc016de8a in soo_close (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at > ../../kern/sys_socket.c:183 > #8 0xc014e3ad in fdrop (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at > ../../sys/file.h:212 > #9 0xc014e2f3 in closef (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at > ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1079 > #10 0xc014e044 in fdfree (p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:945 > #11 0xc0150779 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=256) at > ../../kern/kern_exit.c:186 > #12 0xc01505e0 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=0) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:103 > #13 0xc02407e9 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, > tf_edi = 672387072, > tf_esi = 13118054, tf_ebp = -1077941132, tf_isp = -917430316, tf_ebx > = 672371384, > tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1077941184, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err > = 2, > tf_eip = 672019908, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = > -1077941160, tf_ss = 47}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 > #14 0xc022e9fb in Xint0x80_syscall () > cannot read proc at 0 > (kgdb) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Paul Saab Technical Yahoo paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:37:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403737C05D for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03572; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:37:15 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006291837.UAA03572@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl References: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <200006272255.PAA63434@pike.osd.bsdi.com> ; from John Baldwin "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:59 MST." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:37:15 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I just committed a fix for this. M > Mark, > > A test release I built today died while installing Perl the second > time around into the trees directory where the install distributions > are rolled from as follows: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/re > cd /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/re/ext/re ; make -B install INS TALLPRIVLIB=/R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006 INSTALLARCHLIB=/R/stage/ trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach > Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/re.pm > Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/re.so > Installing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/re.bs > Writing /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/auto/re/.packlist > Appending installation info to /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach /perllocal.pod > ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B > make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > ---------------------------------------- > release started at 12:40:58 on 06/27/00 > release died at 15:43:43 on 06/27/00 > ---------------------------------------- > # ident Makefile > Makefile: > $FreeBSD: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/B/Makefile,v 1.1 2000/06/25 14:48 :03 markm Exp $ > # make -n distribute > make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop > # cd .. > # make -n distribute > cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library ; make install DESTDIR=/b in SHARED=copies > for entry in B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV NDBM_ File Opcode POSIX SDBM_File Socket Hostname Syslog attrs re; do (echo "===> $e ntry"; if test -d /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}.i3 86; then cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}.i386; e lse cd /local0/release/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/${entry}; fi; make d istribute DIRPRFX=$entry/); done > > > My guess is to include bsd.prog.mk instead of bsd.obj.mk in the library > Makefiles, and then just use bsd.subdir.mk in > src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile, but someone more familiar with the > bsd.*.mk files might know of a better solution. Regardless, I'll try my > theory out and see if it fixes release. > > --- > > John Baldwin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:39:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FD837B9DA for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03651; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:40:04 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006291840.UAA03651@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Donn Miller Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange make buildworld problem... References: In-Reply-To: ; from Donn Miller "Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:54:17 -0400." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:40:04 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I just committed a fix for this. M > Recently, the make world problems with perl have been fixed, and I can do > a make world all the way through, provided I do a make world the first > time only. However, I did a cvsup to update my source tree again after > the first make world. I did a make -DNOCLEAN buildworld with /usr/obj > untouched. I get this: > > >>> stage 2: build tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh > /usr/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/us r/s > rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 > build-tools > cd /usr/src/bin/sh; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/games/adventure; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/games/hack; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/games/phantasia; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/f771; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/lib/libncurses; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/share/syscons/scrnmaps; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl; make build-tools > cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl && make build-tools > make: don't know how to make > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/types.h. Stop > *** Error code 2 > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Again, this is after re-making buildworld with -DNOCLEAN after a > successful first make buildworld. > > - Donn > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:39:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABBA37B9DA; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:39:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03668; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:40:38 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006291840.UAA03668@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Donn Miller , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange make buildworld problem... References: <20000629111246.A66477@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20000629111246.A66477@dragon.nuxi.com> ; from "David O'Brien" "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:12:46 MST." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:40:38 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:54:17PM -0400, Donn Miller wrote: > > make: don't know how to make > > /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/sys/types.h. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > This is what I got when I tried to ``make -DNOCLEAN buildworld'' after > the Perl 5.006 upgrade. Perl is being built at the wrong time, or a > dependacy is missing. This is now fixed. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:41:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B691637B9DA for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03695; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:41:31 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006291841.UAA03695@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. References: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> ; from Chris Csanady "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:25:50 CDT." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:41:31 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Please check /usr/src/UPDATING M > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > I have been off the lists for a bit, so I apologize if I missed > something, but this has always been confusing. It used to just > work. Now that i doesn't though, I have no clue where to start > looking. There appears to be no ssl(8) manpage, or anything in > the list archives about this. > > Thanks, > Chris > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 11:58:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EE337B9DA for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA71068; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional In-Reply-To: <20000629092916.A28636@nagual.pp.ru> from "Andrey A. Chernov" at "Jun 29, 2000 09:29:16 am" To: ache@nagual.pp.ru (Andrey A. Chernov) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrey A. Chernov writes: > Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and > complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() > > Please fix. I'm working on it. Of course, in order to check in the fix, I first need to build a new kernel and test it. But once running the new kernel, I can't check in the fix thanks to the broken ssh. So now I'm now building another kernel with RANDOMDEV, even though that this is the solution was not at all obvious from reading UPDATING. Luckily I happened to have seen -current in the past couple of days. Trying to search -current on the web site for the appropriate keywords yeilded only articles from the years 1997 through 1999, nothing in 2000, and there is no way to sort by date anyway. I'm not trying to emit blame or anything, just pointing out that anything that makes it harder for developers to build & test new kernels and/or ssh changes and fixes into freefall can lead to exponentially increasing problems and/or delays. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 12: 9:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C30B37BFDF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02601; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:09:37 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:09:36 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Archie Cobbs Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Message-ID: <20000629230935.A2563@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000629092916.A28636@nagual.pp.ru> <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com>; from archie@whistle.com on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:57:59AM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:57:59AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Andrey A. Chernov writes: > > Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and > > complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() > > > > Please fix. > > I'm working on it. > > Of course, in order to check in the fix, I first need to build a > new kernel and test it. But once running the new kernel, I can't > check in the fix thanks to the broken ssh. So now I'm now building > another kernel with RANDOMDEV, even though that this is the solution > was not at all obvious from reading UPDATING. You can also use randomdev_load="YES" in your /boot/loader.conf BTW, I can't boot new kernel at all - kernel and modules loaded OK, but kernel immediately hangs at boot stage. Just to warn you. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 12:39:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (server.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D99737BFBC for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (root@john.baldwin.cx [192.168.1.18]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10468; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@baldwin.cx) Received: (from john@localhost) by john.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06307; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john) Message-Id: <200006291940.MAA06307@john.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200006291837.UAA03572@grimreaper.grondar.za> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Mark Murray Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 29-Jun-00 Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > I just committed a fix for this. Thank you!! > M -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 12:40:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F238837C097 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09448; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:39:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: gnu not unix Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please In-Reply-To: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, gnu not unix wrote: > > Hi. > > My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. This will never happen. This position was made clear in th erecent tcsh debate. -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 12:47:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F16D37B75B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from slave (doug@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09511; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@dt052n3e.san.rr.com To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: Archie Cobbs , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional In-Reply-To: <20000629230935.A2563@nagual.pp.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:57:59AM -0700, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > Andrey A. Chernov writes: > > > Without "device ether" in config file kernel fails to compile and > > > complains on undefined function ether_ifdetach() in if.c:if_detach() > > > > > > Please fix. > > > > I'm working on it. > > > > Of course, in order to check in the fix, I first need to build a > > new kernel and test it. But once running the new kernel, I can't > > check in the fix thanks to the broken ssh. So now I'm now building > > another kernel with RANDOMDEV, even though that this is the solution > > was not at all obvious from reading UPDATING. > > You can also use randomdev_load="YES" in your /boot/loader.conf > > BTW, I can't boot new kernel at all - kernel and modules loaded OK, but > kernel immediately hangs at boot stage. Just to warn you. Are you using any optimizations other than "-O -pipe"? There's a problem since Peter's recent changes that cause it to bomb out with anything more exotic. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 13:10:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232137C0E8; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA58673; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Archie Cobbs Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional In-Reply-To: <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Archie Cobbs wrote: > Luckily I happened to have seen -current in the past couple of days. > Trying to search -current on the web site for the appropriate keywords > yeilded only articles from the years 1997 through 1999, nothing in > 2000, and there is no way to sort by date anyway. docs.freebsd.org and browse the archives directly. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 13:11:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from manatee.mammalia.org (manatee.mammalia.org [216.231.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ABA37B834 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoseph@mammalia.org) Received: by manatee.mammalia.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 23BA411CD71; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:11:39 -0700 From: R Joseph Wright To: Doug Barton Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please Message-ID: <20000629131139.B13520@manatee.mammalia.org> References: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug@gorean.org on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:39:46PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:39:46PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, gnu not unix wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. > > This will never happen. This position was made clear in th erecent > tcsh debate. Speaking of csh and tcsh, I noticed that /bin/csh is hard linked to /bin/tcsh, yet when I invoke tcsh, I get a different prompt than when I invoke csh. I find this rather odd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 13:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp (ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp [210.234.123.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CB837B789 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knu@idaemons.org) Received: from daemon.local.idaemons.org (203-165-77-17.sugnm1.kt.home.ne.jp [203.165.77.17]) by ms.tokyo.jcom.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W 04/27/00) with ESMTP id FAA23162 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:31:04 +0900 (JST) Received: by daemon.local.idaemons.org (8.9.3/3.7W) id FAA28842; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:30:33 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:30:32 +0900 Message-ID: <86lmzotel3.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> From: "Akinori -Aki- MUSHA" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: suidperl doesn't work User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.2 (Raspberry Beret) EMIKO/1.13.12 (Euglena sociabilis) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) APEL/10.2 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) Organization: Associated I. Daemons X-PGP-Public-Key: finger knu@FreeBSD.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1BEF D9B2 BABD 25D7 659A FD08 89C2 F3BE E981 4E16 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by EMIKO 1.13.12 - "Euglena sociabilis") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm now facing by a problem with the new Perl (5.006) on -current. When I invoke a suidperl script which had been working with the previous Perl, it fails with a message "Can't do setuid". You could reproduce the problem by the following steps.. $ echo '#!/usr/bin/suidperl' > foo $ chmod 4755 foo $ ./foo Can't do setuid Anybody got a clue? -- / /__ __ / ) ) ) ) / Akinori -Aki- MUSHA aka / (_ / ( (__( @ idaemons.org / FreeBSD.org "We're only at home when we're on the run, on the wing, on the fly" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 13:40: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A8F37C10C for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04406; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:40:22 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006292040.WAA04406@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: John Baldwin Cc: Mark Murray , current@FreeBSD.ORG, John Baldwin Subject: Re: Release still broken with new Perl References: <200006291940.MAA06307@john.baldwin.cx> In-Reply-To: <200006291940.MAA06307@john.baldwin.cx> ; from John Baldwin "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:40:19 MST." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:40:22 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > On 29-Jun-00 Mark Murray wrote: > > Hi > > > > I just committed a fix for this. > > Thank you!! Please give me feedback on this when releases work again for you... M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 13:47:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8614237B5FF for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04518; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:47:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006292047.WAA04518@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Akinori -Aki- MUSHA" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suidperl doesn't work References: <86lmzotel3.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> In-Reply-To: <86lmzotel3.wl@localhost.local.idaemons.org> ; from "Akinori -Aki- MUSHA" "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:30:32 +0900." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:47:47 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I'll look at this. M > Hi, > > I'm now facing by a problem with the new Perl (5.006) on -current. > When I invoke a suidperl script which had been working with the > previous Perl, it fails with a message "Can't do setuid". > > You could reproduce the problem by the following steps.. > > $ echo '#!/usr/bin/suidperl' > foo > $ chmod 4755 foo > $ ./foo > Can't do setuid > > > Anybody got a clue? > > -- > / > /__ __ > / ) ) ) ) / > Akinori -Aki- MUSHA aka / (_ / ( (__( @ idaemons.org / FreeBSD.org > > "We're only at home when we're on the run, on the wing, on the fly" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14: 0:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FA437B952 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13860; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:00:43 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05842; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:49:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:49:07 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Chris Csanady Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. Message-ID: <20000629224907.A3285@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu>; from ccsanady@iastate.edu on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:25:50AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:25:50AM -0500, Chris Csanady wrote: > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Same for me ... Wanted to make a ssh session to a site I maintain doesn't work since I use a new kernel (since yesterday)... andreas@titan{1001} $ ssh -c blowfish ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Disabling protocol version 1 Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14: 6:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A8C37B5A9 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000629210548.ZWMO28505.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain> for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:05:48 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA29994 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:32 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Panic in boot after flushing buffers Message-ID: <20000629141632.T15683@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I am running -CURRENT from June 27, 2000 (started cvsup around 19:05) on a PII 266 MHz with 32MB RAM and one IDE disk. Initially, I noticed that while syncing disks during a reboot, the system would always give up before finishing. To capture the output, I configured the kernel to use a serial console by setting flags for the serial port in the hints file (hint.sio.0.flags="0xb0"). Now, instead of just failing to sync the disks, the system panics about two out of every three reboots. The kernel config file (MONSTER) is included as an attachment, as well as the hints file. Below is the panic information and stack trace. Let me know if you would like any more information (this is my first crack at running -CURRENT, so I'm new at this). Regards, -brian System shutdown time has arrived Shutting down daemon processes: . Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xc090b5bd fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014c638 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc3b66f0c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc3b66f20 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1 (init) interrupt mask = none panic: from debugger panic: from debugger Uptime: 11m4s dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 65536 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 303 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 #1 0xc014cbd5 in panic (fmt=0xc02656f4 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 #2 0xc011f479 in db_panic (addr=-1072380360, have_addr=0, count=1, modif=0xc3b66d78 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 #3 0xc011f419 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc0294b78, cmd_table=0xc02949d8, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc02b4880) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 #4 0xc011f4de in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 #5 0xc012169b in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #6 0xc0244626 in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xc3b66ecc) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:158 #7 0xc0252698 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc3b66ecc, eva=3230709181) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:922 #8 0xc0252371 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc3b66ecc, usermode=0, eva=3230709181) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:820 #9 0xc0251f2b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1011454080, tf_esi = 1, tf_ebp = -1011454176, tf_isp = -1011454216, tf_ebx = -1064258240, tf_edx = 160160, tf_ecx = -1070796288, tf_eax = 455, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1072380360, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = -1011479040, tf_ss = 1}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:426 #10 0xc014c638 in boot (howto=0) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:234 #11 0xc014c40c in reboot (p=0xc3b60e00, uap=0xc3b66f80) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:146 #12 0xc0252971 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077936612, tf_esi = -1077936624, tf_ebp = -1077936836, tf_isp = -1011453996, tf_ebx = -1077936732, tf_edx = -1, tf_ecx = 4, tf_eax = 55, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134536452, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 643, tf_esp = -1077937056, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 #13 0xc0244f65 in Xint0x80_syscall () #14 0x80486ee in ?? () #15 0x8048478 in ?? () #16 0x8048139 in ?? () -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MONSTER # # MONSTER -- Based on the GENERIC kernel configuration file # machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident MONSTER maxusers 32 hints "MONSTER.hints" #Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options RANDOMDEV #entropy device options DDB #compile in the ddb debugger options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #BREAK on a comconsole breaks to ddb device isa device eisa device pci #options COMPAT_OLDISA # compatability shims for lnc, fe, le #options COMPAT_OLDPCI # compatability shims for lnc, vx # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc 1 device atkbd device psm device vga # splash screen/screen saver device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc 1 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm # Serial (COM) ports device sio # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. device loop # Network loopback device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MONSTER.hints" # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC.hints,v 1.2 2000/06/14 10:01:39 peter Exp $ hint.fdc.0.at="isa" hint.fdc.0.port="0x3F0" hint.fdc.0.irq="6" hint.fdc.0.drq="2" hint.fd.0.at="fdc0" hint.fd.0.drive="0" hint.fd.1.at="fdc0" hint.fd.1.drive="1" hint.ata.0.at="isa" hint.ata.0.port="0x1F0" hint.ata.0.irq="14" hint.ata.1.at="isa" hint.ata.1.port="0x170" hint.ata.1.irq="15" hint.adv.0.at="isa" hint.bt.0.at="isa" hint.aha.0.at="isa" hint.aic.0.at="isa" hint.atkbdc.0.at="isa" hint.atkbdc.0.port="0x060" hint.atkbd.0.at="atkbdc" hint.atkbd.0.irq="1" hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x1" hint.psm.0.at="atkbdc" hint.psm.0.irq="12" hint.vga.0.at="isa" hint.sc.0.at="isa" hint.sc.0.flags="0x100" hint.vt.0.at="isa" hint.npx.0.at="nexus" hint.npx.0.port="0x0F0" hint.npx.0.irq="13" hint.apm.0.at="nexus" hint.apm.0.disabled="1" hint.apm.0.flags="0x20" hint.pcic.0.at="isa" hint.pcic.0.irq="10" hint.pcic.0.port="0x3e0" hint.pcic.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.pcic.1.at="isa" hint.pcic.1.irq="11" hint.pcic.1.port="0x3e2" hint.pcic.1.maddr="0xd4000" hint.pcic.1.disabled="1" hint.sio.0.at="isa" hint.sio.0.port="0x3F8" hint.sio.0.flags="0xb0" hint.sio.0.irq="4" hint.sio.1.at="isa" hint.sio.1.port="0x2F8" hint.sio.1.irq="3" hint.sio.2.at="isa" hint.sio.2.disabled="1" hint.sio.2.port="0x3E8" hint.sio.2.irq="5" hint.sio.3.at="isa" hint.sio.3.disabled="1" hint.sio.3.port="0x2E8" hint.sio.3.irq="9" hint.ppc.0.at="isa" hint.ppc.0.irq="7" hint.ed.0.at="isa" hint.ed.0.port="0x280" hint.ed.0.irq="10" hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" hint.cs.0.at="isa" hint.cs.0.port="0x300" hint.sn.0.at="isa" hint.sn.0.port="0x300" hint.sn.0.irq="10" hint.ie.0.at="isa" hint.ie.0.port="0x300" hint.ie.0.irq="10" hint.ie.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.fe.0.at="isa" hint.fe.0.port="0x300" hint.le.0.at="isa" hint.le.0.port="0x300" hint.le.0.irq="5" hint.le.0.maddr="0xd0000" hint.lnc.0.at="isa" hint.lnc.0.port="0x280" hint.lnc.0.irq="10" hint.lnc.0.drq="0" --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14:17:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562DB37C101 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000629211741.GOU28505.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:17:41 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA30079; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:28:26 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: R Joseph Wright Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please Message-ID: <20000629142826.U15683@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: R Joseph Wright , Doug Barton , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> <20000629131139.B13520@manatee.mammalia.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000629131139.B13520@manatee.mammalia.org>; from R Joseph Wright on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:11:39PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:11:39PM -0700, R Joseph Wright wrote: > > Speaking of csh and tcsh, I noticed that /bin/csh is hard linked to > /bin/tcsh, yet when I invoke tcsh, I get a different prompt than when > I invoke csh. I find this rather odd. When invoked as tcsh, the shell behaves like tcsh. This is a common technique (check out ex, nex, nvi, nview, vi, and view, for examples; all are hard links to the same file). The program checks its argv[0] and behaves differently depending on what it is set to. -brian -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14:26:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3458937C1D3; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA68524; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Andreas Klemm Cc: Chris Csanady , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. In-Reply-To: <20000629224907.A3285@titan.klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:25:50AM -0500, Chris Csanady wrote: > > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > Same for me ... Wanted to make a ssh session to a site I maintain > doesn't work since I use a new kernel (since yesterday)... What do you want, a hand-delivered letter with curly letters in gold leaf explaining to you personally how to fix the problem? Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14:29:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0DC37C11A for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04706; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:29:40 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006292129.XAA04706@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Andreas Klemm Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. References: <20000629224907.A3285@titan.klemm.gtn.com> In-Reply-To: <20000629224907.A3285@titan.klemm.gtn.com> ; from Andreas Klemm "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:49:07 +0200." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:29:40 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Either you have no RANDOMDEV in the kernel, or you have not loaded the module. M > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:25:50AM -0500, Chris Csanady wrote: > > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > Same for me ... Wanted to make a ssh session to a site I maintain > doesn't work since I use a new kernel (since yesterday)... > > andreas@titan{1001} $ ssh -c blowfish > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > Disabling protocol version 1 > Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 > > > > > -- > Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andrea s > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.htm l > powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBS D > New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andrea s > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 14:31:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0A937C12F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04729; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:31:41 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006292131.XAA04729@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: boshea@ricochet.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic in boot after flushing buffers References: <20000629141632.T15683@beastie.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20000629141632.T15683@beastie.localdomain> ; from "Brian O'Shea" "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:16:32 MST." Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:31:41 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I fixed this yesterday; please re-cvsup and reboot. You should have sys/dev/randomdev/randomdev.c v1.5 to fix this. M > I am running -CURRENT from June 27, 2000 (started cvsup around 19:05) > on a PII 266 MHz with 32MB RAM and one IDE disk. > > Initially, I noticed that while syncing disks during a reboot, the > system would always give up before finishing. To capture the output, > I configured the kernel to use a serial console by setting flags for > the serial port in the hints file (hint.sio.0.flags="0xb0"). > > Now, instead of just failing to sync the disks, the system panics about > two out of every three reboots. > > The kernel config file (MONSTER) is included as an attachment, as well > as the hints file. Below is the panic information and stack trace. > Let me know if you would like any more information (this is my first > crack at running -CURRENT, so I'm new at this). > > Regards, > -brian > > > > System shutdown time has arrived > Shutting down daemon processes: . > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped > > syncing disks... > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0xc090b5bd > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc014c638 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xc3b66f0c > frame pointer = 0x10:0xc3b66f20 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 1 (init) > interrupt mask = none > panic: from debugger > panic: from debugger > Uptime: 11m4s > > dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 65536 > dump ata0: resetting devices .. done > 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 > --- > #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 > 303 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); > (kgdb) bt > #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 > #1 0xc014cbd5 in panic (fmt=0xc02656f4 "from debugger") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 > #2 0xc011f479 in db_panic (addr=-1072380360, have_addr=0, count=1, > modif=0xc3b66d78 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 > #3 0xc011f419 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc0294b78, cmd_table=0xc02949d8, > aux_cmd_tablep=0xc02b4880) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 > #4 0xc011f4de in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 > #5 0xc012169b in db_trap (type=12, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 > #6 0xc0244626 in kdb_trap (type=12, code=0, regs=0xc3b66ecc) > at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:158 > #7 0xc0252698 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc3b66ecc, eva=3230709181) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:922 > #8 0xc0252371 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc3b66ecc, usermode=0, eva=3230709181) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:820 > #9 0xc0251f2b in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, > tf_edi = -1011454080, tf_esi = 1, tf_ebp = -1011454176, > tf_isp = -1011454216, tf_ebx = -1064258240, tf_edx = 160160, > tf_ecx = -1070796288, tf_eax = 455, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, > tf_eip = -1072380360, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, > tf_esp = -1011479040, tf_ss = 1}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:426 > #10 0xc014c638 in boot (howto=0) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:234 > #11 0xc014c40c in reboot (p=0xc3b60e00, uap=0xc3b66f80) > ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:146 > #12 0xc0252971 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, > tf_edi = -1077936612, tf_esi = -1077936624, tf_ebp = -1077936836, > tf_isp = -1011453996, tf_ebx = -1077936732, tf_edx = -1, tf_ecx = 4, > tf_eax = 55, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134536452, tf_cs = 31, > tf_eflags = 643, tf_esp = -1077937056, tf_ss = 47}) > at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 > #13 0xc0244f65 in Xint0x80_syscall () > #14 0x80486ee in ?? () > #15 0x8048478 in ?? () > #16 0x8048139 in ?? () > > > -- > Brian O'Shea > boshea@ricochet.net > > --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=MONSTER > > # > # MONSTER -- Based on the GENERIC kernel configuration file > # > > machine i386 > cpu I686_CPU > ident MONSTER > maxusers 32 > > hints "MONSTER.hints" #Default places to look for devices. > > makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols > > options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation > options INET #InterNETworking > options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols > options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem > options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] > options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support > options MFS #Memory Filesystem > options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device > options NFS #Network Filesystem > options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS require d > options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem > options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem > options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required > options PROCFS #Process filesystem > options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] > options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI > options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor > options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor > options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support > options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory > options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues > options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores > options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions > options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING > options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev > options RANDOMDEV #entropy device > options DDB #compile in the ddb debugger > options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER #BREAK on a comconsole breaks to ddb > > device isa > device eisa > device pci > #options COMPAT_OLDISA # compatability shims for lnc, fe, le > #options COMPAT_OLDPCI # compatability shims for lnc, vx > > # Floppy drives > device fdc > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices > > # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > device atkbdc 1 > device atkbd > device psm > > device vga > > # splash screen/screen saver > device splash > > # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console > device sc 1 > > # Floating point support - do not disable. > device npx > > # Power management support (see LINT for more options) > device apm > > # Serial (COM) ports > device sio > > # Parallel port > device ppc > device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) > device lpt # Printer > device plip # TCP/IP over parallel > device ppi # Parallel port interface device > #device vpo # Requires scbus and da > > > # PCI Ethernet NICs. > device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 8 2558) > > # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. > device loop # Network loopback > device ether # Ethernet support > device sl # Kernel SLIP > device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP > device tun # Packet tunnel. > device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) > device md # Memory "disks" > device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling > device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) > > # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. > # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! > device bpf # Berkeley packet filter > > # USB support > device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface > device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface > device usb # USB Bus (required) > #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices > device ugen # Generic > device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" > #device ukbd # Keyboard > #device ulpt # Printer > #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus a nd da > #device ums # Mouse > #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player > # USB Ethernet, requires mii > #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet > #device cue # CATC USB ethernet > #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet > > --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="MONSTER.hints" > > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC.hints,v 1.2 2000/06/14 10:01:39 peter E xp $ > hint.fdc.0.at="isa" > hint.fdc.0.port="0x3F0" > hint.fdc.0.irq="6" > hint.fdc.0.drq="2" > hint.fd.0.at="fdc0" > hint.fd.0.drive="0" > hint.fd.1.at="fdc0" > hint.fd.1.drive="1" > hint.ata.0.at="isa" > hint.ata.0.port="0x1F0" > hint.ata.0.irq="14" > hint.ata.1.at="isa" > hint.ata.1.port="0x170" > hint.ata.1.irq="15" > hint.adv.0.at="isa" > hint.bt.0.at="isa" > hint.aha.0.at="isa" > hint.aic.0.at="isa" > hint.atkbdc.0.at="isa" > hint.atkbdc.0.port="0x060" > hint.atkbd.0.at="atkbdc" > hint.atkbd.0.irq="1" > hint.atkbd.0.flags="0x1" > hint.psm.0.at="atkbdc" > hint.psm.0.irq="12" > hint.vga.0.at="isa" > hint.sc.0.at="isa" > hint.sc.0.flags="0x100" > hint.vt.0.at="isa" > hint.npx.0.at="nexus" > hint.npx.0.port="0x0F0" > hint.npx.0.irq="13" > hint.apm.0.at="nexus" > hint.apm.0.disabled="1" > hint.apm.0.flags="0x20" > hint.pcic.0.at="isa" > hint.pcic.0.irq="10" > hint.pcic.0.port="0x3e0" > hint.pcic.0.maddr="0xd0000" > hint.pcic.1.at="isa" > hint.pcic.1.irq="11" > hint.pcic.1.port="0x3e2" > hint.pcic.1.maddr="0xd4000" > hint.pcic.1.disabled="1" > hint.sio.0.at="isa" > hint.sio.0.port="0x3F8" > hint.sio.0.flags="0xb0" > hint.sio.0.irq="4" > hint.sio.1.at="isa" > hint.sio.1.port="0x2F8" > hint.sio.1.irq="3" > hint.sio.2.at="isa" > hint.sio.2.disabled="1" > hint.sio.2.port="0x3E8" > hint.sio.2.irq="5" > hint.sio.3.at="isa" > hint.sio.3.disabled="1" > hint.sio.3.port="0x2E8" > hint.sio.3.irq="9" > hint.ppc.0.at="isa" > hint.ppc.0.irq="7" > hint.ed.0.at="isa" > hint.ed.0.port="0x280" > hint.ed.0.irq="10" > hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" > hint.cs.0.at="isa" > hint.cs.0.port="0x300" > hint.sn.0.at="isa" > hint.sn.0.port="0x300" > hint.sn.0.irq="10" > hint.ie.0.at="isa" > hint.ie.0.port="0x300" > hint.ie.0.irq="10" > hint.ie.0.maddr="0xd0000" > hint.fe.0.at="isa" > hint.fe.0.port="0x300" > hint.le.0.at="isa" > hint.le.0.port="0x300" > hint.le.0.irq="5" > hint.le.0.maddr="0xd0000" > hint.lnc.0.at="isa" > hint.lnc.0.port="0x280" > hint.lnc.0.irq="10" > hint.lnc.0.drq="0" > > --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2-- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 15:22:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BAA37B7A3; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA63526; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:22:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:23:07 -0400 To: Kris Kennaway , Archie Cobbs From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:10 PM -0700 6/29/00, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Archie Cobbs wrote: > > > Luckily I happened to have seen -current in the past couple of days. > > Trying to search -current on the web site for the appropriate keywords > > yeilded only articles from the years 1997 through 1999, nothing in > > 2000, and there is no way to sort by date anyway. > >docs.freebsd.org and browse the archives directly. Also, note that the problem is what the web site is REPORTING for the dates on messages, and not that the messages themselves are missing. I recently filed PR Docs/19507 on this. It wouldn't surprise me if someone else has filed a PR on it. The problem is that most articles which REALLY have a date in 2000 are REPORTED as having the same date as the most recent article in the search list which is not in year 2000. If you click on one of the articles, the article itself is fine. It's just the listing for it which is coming up wrong. (see the example given in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19507 ) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 15:41:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D742937C1D3 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 19473 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 22:41:47 -0000 Received: from du36.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.36) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 29 Jun 2000 22:41:47 -0000 Message-ID: <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:37:22 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT References: <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <200006290019.SAA59924@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> "Thomas M. Sommers" writes: > : Warner Losh wrote: > : > > : > Any reason that the .c/.h files of the drivers couldn't be used to > : > generate this information? > : > : Or perhaps the other way around. > > No. I'm saying that the .c and .h files (likely .h) are the source to > the driver and driver maintanier are 1000% more likely to keep those > up to date than they are xxx.xml. Right now, with modules, you can > easily not have to worry about any config issues outside of those > files. Forcing a doc file just to get docs and breaking this is > undesirable. Expanding what the driver writers are already doing > a little seems like a smarter move. I was thinking of something analogous to the way syscalls.master is used to generate several files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 16:38:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE2D37C12F; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA88065; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:38:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA37275; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006292338.RAA37275@harmony.village.org> To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:37:22 EDT." <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> References: <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <200006290019.SAA59924@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:38:17 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> "Thomas M. Sommers" writes: : I was thinking of something analogous to the way syscalls.master is used : to generate several files. This works well for syscalls.master, but I don't think it would work well in the driver area. Call me crazy. However, I'll take an open and honest look at anything people come up with in this area. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 16:59:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1886337C23B for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19401; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:59:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:59:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Brian O'Shea" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic in boot after flushing buffers In-Reply-To: <20000629141632.T15683@beastie.localdomain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Interesting. I've also been seeing this on alphas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 18:26:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from avon.wire.net.au (avon.wire.net.au [203.36.3.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D7D37B6C6 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidn@austel.net) Received: from austel.net (labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.107] (may be forged)) by avon.wire.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA37365; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:26:11 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from davidn@austel.net) Message-ID: <395BF736.BC331397@austel.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:26:14 +1000 From: David Nugent Organization: ISP Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: R Joseph Wright Cc: Doug Barton , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please References: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> <20000629131139.B13520@manatee.mammalia.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG R Joseph Wright wrote: > Speaking of csh and tcsh, I noticed that /bin/csh is hard linked to > /bin/tcsh, yet when I invoke tcsh, I get a different prompt than when > I invoke csh. I find this rather odd. This is documented behaviour. When argv[0] is csh, it tries very hard to behave exactly the same as a traditional /bin/csh. -- || David Nugent || TS Manager, ISP Limited || \\ davidn@austel.net | davidn@blaze.net.au | davidn@freebsd.org // .\\ Ph: +61396422322 Fax: +61396422063 Cell: +61404867638 //. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 18:53:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341B37B5C2 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bsdx@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA66759; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:53:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsdx@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam To: Paul Saab Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic in sbdrop on SMP, kernel approx 9 days old In-Reply-To: <20000629112715.A19053@elvis.mu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope, that computer is all ide on a Abit BP6 motherboard. Later in the day it rebooted at least once while I was asleep without leaving a core :/ It also has a matrox g200 agp, uhci support enabed and using usb mouse, fxp0, ed0 (pci), and a dc0 (Netgear 82c169 PNIC). On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Paul Saab wrote: >What is the hardware in this box? Do you have an NCR scsi controller >using the ncr driver? > >paul > >Adam (bsdx@looksharp.net) wrote: >> This morning my cable modem went out and it returned to service while I >> was out of the room. When I returned I was greeted by fsck; I'm not sure >> if this is related to networking somehow but I figured I'd report it >> anyway. This computer has 3 nics, does bridging across two, and provides >> nat to the third. Kernel is about as old as the uptime was. As usual, >> any more info wanted, just ask. >> >> gdb -k /sys/compile/SAPPHIRE-SMP3/kernel.debug vmcore.0 >> GNU gdb 4.18 >> Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you >> are >> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain >> conditions. >> Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for >> details. >> This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... >> SMP 2 cpus >> IdlePTD 3375104 >> initial pcb at 2b83c0 >> panicstr: sbdrop >> panic messages: >> --- >> panic: sbdrop >> mp_lock = 01000001; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 01000000 >> boot() called on cpu#1 >> >> syncing disks... 1 >> done >> Uptime: 8d18h3m30s >> >> dumping to dev #ad/0x20001, offset 8192 >> dump ata0: resetting devices .. done >> 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 >> 110 109 108 107 106 1 >> 05 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 >> 82 81 80 79 78 77 7 >> 6 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 >> 51 50 49 48 47 46 4 >> 5 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 >> 20 19 18 17 16 15 1 >> 4 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 >> --- >> #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 >> 303 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); >> (kgdb) bt >> #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 >> #1 0xc015a62d in panic (fmt=0xc0257d06 "sbdrop") at >> ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 >> #2 0xc017b500 in sbdrop (sb=0xc8572074, len=65392) at >> ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:927 >> #3 0xc017b390 in sbflush (sb=0xc8572074) at ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:906 >> #4 0xc017ae55 in sbrelease (sb=0xc8572074, so=0xc8572000) at >> ../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:589 >> #5 0xc01783cb in sofree (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:250 >> #6 0xc0178502 in soclose (so=0xc8572000) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:316 >> #7 0xc016de8a in soo_close (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at >> ../../kern/sys_socket.c:183 >> #8 0xc014e3ad in fdrop (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at >> ../../sys/file.h:212 >> #9 0xc014e2f3 in closef (fp=0xc1016a80, p=0xc954c2a0) at >> ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:1079 >> #10 0xc014e044 in fdfree (p=0xc954c2a0) at ../../kern/kern_descrip.c:945 >> #11 0xc0150779 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=256) at >> ../../kern/kern_exit.c:186 >> #12 0xc01505e0 in exit1 (p=0xc954c2a0, rv=0) at ../../kern/kern_exit.c:103 >> #13 0xc02407e9 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, >> tf_edi = 672387072, >> tf_esi = 13118054, tf_ebp = -1077941132, tf_isp = -917430316, tf_ebx >> = 672371384, >> tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1077941184, tf_eax = 1, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err >> = 2, >> tf_eip = 672019908, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = >> -1077941160, tf_ss = 47}) >> at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1126 >> #14 0xc022e9fb in Xint0x80_syscall () >> cannot read proc at 0 >> (kgdb) >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > >-- >Paul Saab >Technical Yahoo >paul@mu.org - ps@yahoo-inc.com - ps@freebsd.org >Do You .. uhh .. Yahoo!? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 20: 5: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EFAC37C32A for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:04:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id FAA16413 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:04:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00826 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:04:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:04:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Perl won't installworld: INET.pm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just cvsupped: Make buildworld seems ok now, however make installworld fails: ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.a /usr/lib install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.so.4 /usr/lib ln -sf libperl.so.4 /usr/lib/libperl.so ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 miniperl /usr/bin ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 perl /usr/bin /usr/bin/perl5 -> /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl5.006 -> /usr/bin/perl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/suidperl install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 4511 suidperl /usr/bin /usr/bin/sperl5 -> /usr/bin/suidperl /usr/bin/sperl5.006 -> /usr/bin/suidperl ===> gnu/usr.bin/perl/library install: /usr/libdata/perl/5.006/./IO/Socket/INET.pm: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 20: 8:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7EF37B68D; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id e5U38oh58502; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:08:52 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:08:50 +0900 Message-ID: <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: In your message of "29 Jun 2000 16:01:36 GMT" <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> References: <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So, this is what I worried about. :-) At 29 Jun 2000 16:01:36 GMT, Warner Losh wrote: > I'd violently oppose this. I'd rather see the XML file generated from = > the .h files that we already use to build the system with. You would > be making it just as hard to keep things up to date with little gain > from the programmer's point of view. You need to make it easier for > the programmer to keep things up to date rather than harder. =46rom the documentation point of view, XML source file should be used to generate other "rendered" text such as *.c/*.h. In principle, using XML is same process such as using src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs. As you know, generation of usbdevs{,_data}.h is done by awk script. And same procedure is done in src/sys/dev/pccarddevs for generating pccarddevs{,_data}.h. I think what Nik wants to say is, suggesting standard scheme to generate these files from human readable source file. And he suggests XML as that source file format. Of course, source tree are for programmers. First thing we should consider is not to stress programmers for that procedure. Nik's suggestion is more conceptual one. We need more discussion for this subject. # Nik, we should explain more about XML for freebsd-current people # before stepping forward. :-) -- = Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 20:39:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A611937B555; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA97675; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:39:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:39:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006300339.XAA97675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> References: <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > using XML is same process such as using src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs. As > you know, generation of usbdevs{,_data}.h is done by awk script. And > same procedure is done in src/sys/dev/pccarddevs for generating > pccarddevs{,_data}.h. Both of which are bugs imported from NetBSD. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 23:15:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picalon.gun.de (picalon.gun.de [192.109.159.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225F437B5F4 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by picalon.gun.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00559; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:15:21 +0200 (MET DST) >Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA81998; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:02:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andreas) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:02:24 +0200 From: Andreas Klemm To: Mark Murray Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. Message-ID: <20000630080224.A79224@titan.klemm.gtn.com> References: <20000629224907.A3285@titan.klemm.gtn.com> <200006292129.XAA04706@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200006292129.XAA04706@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:29:40PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:29:40PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > Either you have no RANDOMDEV in the kernel, or you have not loaded the > module. that's right, no RANDOMDEV and no module... Id Refs Address Size Name 1 4 0xc0100000 2729e4 kernel 2 1 0xc0dc7000 4d000 nfs.ko 3 1 0xc0e51000 4000 logo_saver.ko After loading the kernel module ssh again works like a charme. Thanks for your kind help and sorry for the false alarm. BTW: Maybe this should go into UPDATING ? Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html powered by Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD New APSFILTER 542 and songs from our band - http://people.freebsd.org/~andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jun 29 23:40:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710C137B724 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:40:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggm@dstc.edu.au) Received: from asuncion.dstc.edu.au (asuncion.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.155]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5U6eFb00578 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:40:15 +1000 (EST) Received: (from ggm@localhost) by asuncion.dstc.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id QAA02584 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:40:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:40:19 +1000 (EST) From: George Michaelson Message-Id: <200006300640.QAA02584@asuncion.dstc.edu.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: what turns on YP in getpwent() Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At line 67 in getpwent.c under libc/gen there is a block of code which is #ifdef YP. I know its a dumb question but what turns this #ifdef on? I ask, because I truss'd my login process after enabling yp via ypinit and while I can ypcat my maps, I can't see login do diddly squat into them under pam. I suspect this is a frob which has somehow got turned off in my code. FAQ? -George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 0: 0:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDD537B724 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06906; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:00:42 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200006300700.JAA06906@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: "Brian O'Shea" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic in boot after flushing buffers References: In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew Jacob "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:59:28 MST." Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:00:42 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Interesting. I've also been seeing this on alphas. Do you have sys/dev/randomdev/randomdev.c v1.5? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 0:29:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB57F37B724 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:29:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alain.Thivillon@hsc.fr) Received: from yoko.hsc.fr (yoko.hsc.fr [192.70.106.76]) by itesec.hsc.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F7C10E2E; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:29:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: by yoko.hsc.fr (Postfix release-19990601, from userid 1001) id 341D89B037; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:28:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:28:58 +0200 From: Alain Thivillon To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Perl won't installworld: INET.pm Message-ID: <20000630092858.B368@yoko.hsc.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: ; from leifn@neland.dk on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 05:04:38AM +0200 X-Organization: Herve Schauer Consultants X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Leif Neland écrivait (wrote) : > Just cvsupped: > > Make buildworld seems ok now, however make installworld fails: Mine installs (maybe i am a lucky one or i have cvsup before/after you, who knows ...) But /usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/IO/Socket.pm is broken because "use Errno;" fails. I have found no trace of Errno.pm in /usr/src :( -- Email-Boulot : at@hsc.fr Email-Maison: at@rominet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 0:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.eurocontrol.fr (matrix.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.254.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D237B7C1; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@eurocontrol.fr) Received: from caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.5.62]) by matrix.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C475A37; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix, from userid 1193) id A035D4E5A; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:55:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:55:21 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: FreeBSD Current Users' list Cc: markm@freebsd.org Subject: Missing module in current Perl Message-ID: <20000630095521.A79835@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems that the newly added Errno module is not in the Makefile... Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -2 -r1.2 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/06/27 15:28:10 1.2 +++ Makefile 2000/06/30 07:46:17 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ # $FreeBSD: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile,v 1.2 2000/06/27 15:28:10 markm Exp $ -SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ +SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Errno Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ NDBM_File Opcode POSIX SDBM_File Socket Hostname Syslog attrs re -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/ITM -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr The Postman hits! The Postman hits! You have new mail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 3:35:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B91137B588 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21907; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:35:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@flood.ping.uio.no) To: Garrett Wollman Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: new fetch(1) References: <200006291541.LAA94958@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 30 Jun 2000 12:35:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: Garrett Wollman's message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:41:26 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman writes: > < said: > > I've replaced fetch(1) with a libfetch-based implementation. > It introduces numerous style bugs in both code and documentation, and > furthermore claims copyright on text in the manual page which I > wrote. It also removes support for a number of important features. You're not one for constructive criticism, are you? I don't know how many times I've said this to you before, but if you don't have anything useful to say (such as a list of those important features that are missing), just don't say anything at all. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 4:32:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EA537C14A for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggm@dstc.edu.au) Received: from dstc.edu.au (asuncion.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.155]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UBWLb09295 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:32:21 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what turns on YP in getpwent() In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:40:19 +1000." <200006300640.QAA02584@asuncion.dstc.edu.au> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:32:24 +1000 Message-ID: <2746.962364744@dstc.edu.au> From: George Michaelson Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To answer my own question: src/lib/libc/Makefile.inc has .if !defined(NO_YP_LIBC) CFLAGS+= -DYP .include "${.CURDIR}/../libc/yp/Makefile.inc" .endif a find down the src tree does not reveal this being defined. I'm going to have to look elsewhere for YP/NIS failure. cheers -George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 5:16:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F061137C4B4 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ggm@dstc.edu.au) Received: from dstc.edu.au (asuncion.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.155]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e5UCGkb10432 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:16:46 +1000 (EST) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what turns on YP in getpwent() In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:32:24 +1000." <2746.962364744@dstc.edu.au> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:16:50 +1000 Message-ID: <2801.962367410@dstc.edu.au> From: George Michaelson Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG RTFM. you cannot use +:*:::::::: as the NIS catchall in FreeBSD. Its documented. (sigh) sorry. -George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 5:28:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from southpass.baynetworks.com (ns2.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.3.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421B537C4A7; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwithrow@BayNetworks.COM) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h016b.s86b1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.1.107]) by southpass.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA21269; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (pobox.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.61.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20716; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baynetworks.com (kyzyl [192.32.150.103]) by pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/04/24-S) with ESMTP id IAA09413; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:27:45 -0400 for Message-Id: <200006301227.IAA09413@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Garrett Wollman Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT In-Reply-To: Message from Garrett Wollman of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:39:29 EDT." <200006300339.XAA97675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:27:46 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu said: :- Both of which are bugs imported from NetBSD. Obviously a matter of opinion. I think declarative DSLs for this kind of things are a good idea. But I understand some people want to do everything by hand in good-old C, and won't stop until it is ripped from their cold, dead fingers. ;-) -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 288 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 6:26:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD98837B79C; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13090; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:26:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:26:28 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Doug Barton Cc: Archie Cobbs , current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Boot hang (was Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional) Message-ID: <20000630172628.A13045@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20000629230935.A2563@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug@gorean.org on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:46:59PM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > Are you using any optimizations other than "-O -pipe"? There's a > problem since Peter's recent changes that cause it to bomb out with > anything more exotic. Yes, this was a reason. I have "-O2 -pipe" instead of "-O -pipe", but I have it working for years! -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 6:29:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id D9C0337B79C; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:29:11 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Cc: peter@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug: kernel hangs at boot Message-ID: <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org> References: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org>; from ache@freebsd.org on Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:03:22PM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:03:22PM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > Fresh -current kernel with fresh -current bootblocks loaded ok but hangs in > boot (no diagnostics even printed, just silent hang with "/" on the screen). > > Kernel from Jun14 with fresh -current bootblocks (i.e. the same bootblocks) > booted Ok. The reason found. I have "-O2 pipe" instead of default "-O pipe", but I have it working all the time from very beginning. Why this becomes broken? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 7:15: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B0737BB73; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:14:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-202.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.202]) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03552; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Message-ID: <395CAB5D.6A904B67@EnContacto.Net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:14:53 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: MexComUSA.Net/EnContacto.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: "current@FreeBSD.ORG" , Donn Miller Subject: Re: Laptop boot problem in current with GENERIC & GENERIC.hints References: <200006290514.WAA04741@john.baldwin.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > On 27-Jun-00 Edwin Culp wrote: > > Donn Miller wrote: > > > >> Did you compile your kernel with any optimizations, such as -Os? If so, > >> try it recompiling it without optimizations. > > > > Unfortunately, no. I wish that I had, because I'm fresh out of things to > > try. > > It's fixed. It wasn't a kernel problem but a stupid bogon on my part > in btx.s. Make sure you have rev 1.19 of /sys/boot/i386/btx/btx/btx.s > and rebuild your loader. > > > Thanks, > > > > ed > > -- John, Everything is fine. Thanks a lot. ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 7:46:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sv01.geocities.co.jp (sv01.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D10437BFB4; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@geocities.co.jp) Received: from mail.geocities.co.jp (mail.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.137]) by sv01.geocities.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id XAA17428; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:46:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.hrs.jp (sutnmax1-ppp40.ed.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.173.50]) by mail.geocities.co.jp (1.3G-GeocitiesJ-3.3) with ESMTP id XAA29425; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:46:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200006301446.XAA29425@mail.geocities.co.jp> Received: from localhost (alph.hrs.jp [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrs.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id XAA41667; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:05:46 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@hrs.jp) In-Reply-To: <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:05:46 +0900 From: Hiroki Sato X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote in <20000628173144.B51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>: > That being the case, it wouldn't be too hard to do > > ... > > ... > > and so on, would it? If so, translated comment field can be obsolete while the author's one is always up-to-date. The comment field is edited by the original author, but translators are responsible for the others. Translation is not always done immediately. So, I think a way is needed to indicate whether the translation is old or not. > Or does loading Japanese text in to a non-Japanese aware editor scramble > the text? Probably it is not a big problem for editors, but other tools are OK? A file including characters in various encodings may confuse them. -- | Hiroki Sato/HRS | | j7397067@ed.noda.sut.ac.jp(univ) | hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org(FreeBSD doc-jp Project) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 8:11:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2378937B6B4 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA99499; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:11:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:11:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200006301511.LAA99499@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: Garrett Wollman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: new fetch(1) In-Reply-To: References: <200006291541.LAA94958@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > You're not one for constructive criticism, are you? I don't know how What part of YOU MAY NOT CLAIM COPYRIGHT ON MY TEXT don't you understand? -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 8:37:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from delenn.acm.rpi.edu (delenn.acm.rpi.edu [128.213.5.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D4EF37B51F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:37:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackal@acm.rpi.edu) Received: (qmail 28840 invoked by uid 1135); 30 Jun 2000 15:37:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:37:10 -0400 From: Hasan Diwan To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld successful Message-ID: <20000630113710.A28826@acm.rpi.edu> References: <20000630092858.B368@yoko.hsc.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000630092858.B368@yoko.hsc.fr>; from Alain Thivillon on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:28:58AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Around 10am PDT yesterday, -CURRENT built and installed without an error. My only concern is why we need to have a hard link between /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh. --=20 Hasan Diwan [hdiwan@pobox.com] Computer Science Department Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQCVAwUBOVy+pvitTU38wbMJAQG4ogP/fBQkuMHWJ50X3IoJ1y9ZQQV7NZKdwaxi /8gkiGdSuYghm7TkbzwNr1vYz9Pc+vw5wwzYw031b561KA6iEgRg6UZDt8nUwceL H0akteob0ucLOIcziqpFQJV6QD5QniZ5YD+1M0vRkneuet8oMaw9GTcV1j2yBjvr mbDgINAm5cM= =aHJk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 8:59: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.post.kek.jp (mail4.post.kek.jp [130.87.41.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D0A37C028 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Received: from mail2.post.kek.jp (root@mail2.post.kek.jp [130.87.41.19]) by mail4.post.kek.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7WpostKEK:04/29/00) with ESMTP id AAA16986 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:58:37 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Received: from darwin.kek.jp (darwin.kek.jp [130.87.85.49]) by mail2.post.kek.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7WpostKEK:05/01/00) with ESMTP id AAA18741 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:58:36 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from yosimoto@post.kek.jp) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: yosimoto@pop.post.kek.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2-Jb5-7.100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:58:34 +0900 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO Subject: make release still broken Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG bsd.ports.mk don't have the version of new perl (5.006). So, make release still broken. chflags -R noschg /R/stage/trees touch release.2 Making docs... ===> Extracting for docproj-1.1 >> No MD5 checksum file. ===> Patching for docproj-1.1 ===> Configuring for docproj-1.1 ===> Installing for docproj-1.1 ===> docproj-1.1 depends on executable: instant - not found ===> Verifying install for instant in /usr/ports/textproc/sgmlformat Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docproj. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docproj. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/textproc/docproj. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/release. ---------------------------------------------------------- Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO KEK, High Energy Accelerator Research Organization Accelerator Laboratory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 9:16:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt052n3e.san.rr.com [204.210.33.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CDF37C028 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19600; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <395CC7CF.AA91FFD7@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:16:15 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0629 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot hang (was Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional) References: <20000629230935.A2563@nagual.pp.ru> <20000630172628.A13045@nagual.pp.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Andrey A. Chernov" wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:46:59PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > Are you using any optimizations other than "-O -pipe"? There's a > > problem since Peter's recent changes that cause it to bomb out with > > anything more exotic. > > Yes, this was a reason. > I have "-O2 -pipe" instead of "-O -pipe", but I have it working for years! Yep, I was in the same boat. Price of progress I suppose. :) -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 9:37:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from limbo.dn.ua (kapa.aist.net [193.124.70.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D6637B986 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arcade@limbo.dn.ua) Received: (from arcade@localhost) by limbo.dn.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29701 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:59:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from arcade) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:59:35 +0300 From: Volodymyr Kostyrko To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: On the modules Message-ID: <20000630185935.D669@limbo.dn.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I was compiling the modules I face the following situation. While its possible to compile kernel even with -O3 -pipe, the modules still copmpiled with -O -pipe. Where I can change this? The search in the /sys/compile returns nothing... Next. What would be with the modules in future? Something is not good in division for devices and modules. For example, MSDOSFS compiled as module makes it possible to forget about compiling it into kernel. On the other hand there are modules that must be present at the boot stage to load the system (or devices must be compiled in). May be it's possible to convert devices to modules? And then just load needable before running kernel? Or just make a option for linking the module into the kernel? -- [WBR], Arcade Zardos. [AIST] [SAT Astronomy//Think to survive!] [mp3.aist.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 9:57: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63D737B738 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA91465; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:56:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA42633; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:56:55 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301656.KAA42633@harmony.village.org> To: gnu not unix Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:44:56 PDT." <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> References: <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:56:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006291744.KAA55295@fallkiss.wraith.sf.ca.us> gnu not unix writes: : My vote is for root's shell to be /bin/sh if anyone's counting. Please no. Root's shell has been csh too long to change it now. what's so hard about chsh or exec sh? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 9:58:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B43637B5A0 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA91474; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:58:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA42653; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301658.KAA42653@harmony.village.org> To: Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru (Andrey A. Chernov), current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:57:59 PDT." <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> References: <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:58:13 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006291857.LAA71068@bubba.whistle.com> Archie Cobbs writes: : check in the fix thanks to the broken ssh. So now I'm now building : another kernel with RANDOMDEV, even though that this is the solution : was not at all obvious from reading UPDATING. Patches to UPDATING welcome. Grumping about UPDATING ignored. :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10: 2:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (bubba.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B82A37C14E for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA76841; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200006301702.KAA76841@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional In-Reply-To: <200006301658.KAA42653@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Jun 30, 2000 10:58:13 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh writes: > : check in the fix thanks to the broken ssh. So now I'm now building > : another kernel with RANDOMDEV, even though that this is the solution > : was not at all obvious from reading UPDATING. > > Patches to UPDATING welcome. Grumping about UPDATING ignored. :-) OK, does this sound correct? diff -u -r1.91 UPDATING --- UPDATING 2000/06/29 00:34:54 1.91 +++ UPDATING 2000/06/30 17:01:58 @@ -21,6 +21,10 @@ openssh and openssl should not be used to generate keys from this date to the completion of the work. + Alternately, just include 'options RANDOMDEV' in your kernel + and everything will start working again, albeit with reduced + security. + 20000622: The license on the softupdates is now a standard 2 clause BSD license. You may need to remove your symbolic links -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10: 4:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DD837BDBD; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:04:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA91502; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:04:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA42694; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301704.LAA42694@harmony.village.org> To: Jun Kuriyama Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:08:50 +0900." <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> References: <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:04:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Jun Kuriyama writes: : Of course, source tree are for programmers. First thing we should : consider is not to stress programmers for that procedure. Nik's : suggestion is more conceptual one. We need more discussion for this : subject. I think that a large part of my reaction was the part about going out of our way to force this down the throats of the programmers. On relfection, having dozens of mumble.xml files through the tree that the doc project can use would be good. Having it be the only way to have kernel options might be desirable in some ways, ugly in others. If it is one big .xml file, then I'd have to think that that isn't desrable at all. We're trying to get away from that sort of thing. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10: 6: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F2537C579; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA91513; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:05:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA42717; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301705.LAA42717@harmony.village.org> To: Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:39:29 EDT." <200006300339.XAA97675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200006300339.XAA97675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20000629144257.A23415@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000628173457.C51610@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006290024.SAA59981@harmony.village.org> <200006291558.JAA34002@harmony.village.org> <7m1z1fx3ul.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:05:46 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006300339.XAA97675@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Garrett Wollman writes: : > using XML is same process such as using src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs. As : > you know, generation of usbdevs{,_data}.h is done by awk script. And : > same procedure is done in src/sys/dev/pccarddevs for generating : > pccarddevs{,_data}.h. : : Both of which are bugs imported from NetBSD. Agreed. I've not taken the time to clean this up. There are some cross module issues in doing this that I'm not clear on how to solve. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10: 7:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F69E37C16C; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA91522; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:07:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA42737; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:07:25 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301707.LAA42737@harmony.village.org> To: Robert Withrow Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT Cc: Garrett Wollman , Jun Kuriyama , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:27:46 EDT." <200006301227.IAA09413@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> References: <200006301227.IAA09413@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:07:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006301227.IAA09413@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> Robert Withrow writes: : : wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu said: : :- Both of which are bugs imported from NetBSD. : : Obviously a matter of opinion. I think declarative DSLs for : this kind of things are a good idea. The problem is that they are generated files that are checked into the tree. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10:10:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075BE37BA36 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA91548; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:10:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA42786; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200006301710.LAA42786@harmony.village.org> To: Archie Cobbs Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:02:16 PDT." <200006301702.KAA76841@bubba.whistle.com> References: <200006301702.KAA76841@bubba.whistle.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:10:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200006301702.KAA76841@bubba.whistle.com> Archie Cobbs writes: : OK, does this sound correct? Almost. : diff -u -r1.91 UPDATING : --- UPDATING 2000/06/29 00:34:54 1.91 : +++ UPDATING 2000/06/30 17:01:58 : @@ -21,6 +21,10 @@ : openssh and openssl should not be used to generate keys from this : date to the completion of the work. : : + Alternately, just include 'options RANDOMDEV' in your kernel : + and everything will start working again, albeit with reduced : + security. : + If you must operate at this reduced level of security, add 'options RANDOMDEV' to your kernel or modload the randomdev module. I think is much closer to reality. Thanks for the patch, it was just want I needed to get over the hump. I have it in my copy of UPDATING now and will commit it later today. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10:26:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D7737BA36 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 868161C65; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:26:10 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Hasan Diwan Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld successful Message-ID: <20000630132610.I18942@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000630092858.B368@yoko.hsc.fr> <20000630113710.A28826@acm.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000630113710.A28826@acm.rpi.edu>; from jackal@acm.rpi.edu on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:37:10AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:37:10AM -0400, Hasan Diwan wrote: > Around 10am PDT yesterday, -CURRENT built and installed without an > error. My only concern is why we need to have a hard link between > /bin/csh and /bin/tcsh. For reasons you can find out by reading the mailing list archives. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CHIMES e-mail: billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 10:38:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDF537BA36 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05724; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:35:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:35:36 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Warner Losh Cc: Archie Cobbs , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bug: "device ether" no longer optional Message-ID: <20000630213534.A5705@nagual.pp.ru> References: <200006301702.KAA76841@bubba.whistle.com> <200006301710.LAA42786@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006301710.LAA42786@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:10:47AM -0600 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 11:10:47AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > If you must operate at this reduced level of security, add > 'options RANDOMDEV' to your kernel or modload the randomdev > module. > > I think is much closer to reality. Thanks for the patch, it was just > want I needed to get over the hump. I have it in my copy of UPDATING > now and will commit it later today. The last phrase can be more specific - "add randomdev_load="YES" to your /boot/loader.conf" -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 11:28:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2C237B582 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22590; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:27:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:26:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mark Murray Cc: "Brian O'Shea" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Panic in boot after flushing buffers In-Reply-To: <200006300700.JAA06906@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > > > Interesting. I've also been seeing this on alphas. > > Do you have sys/dev/randomdev/randomdev.c v1.5? > Now I do. Better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 12:34:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from oldserver.demon.nl (oldserver.demon.nl [212.238.105.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570DB37BB4F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oldserver.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA75151 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:34:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:34:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Marc Schneiders X-Sender: marc@unclad.freebeastie.org To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld ok, but kernel fails Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Buildworld as well as installworld worked out here, it seems (no reboot yet). Kernel build does not work. After config -r, make depends dies thus: ===> procfs @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include perl @/kern/vnode_if.pl -h @/kern/vnode_if.src rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_ctl.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../m iscfs/procfs/procfs_map.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_note.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_rlimit.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/p rocfs/procfs_status.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_subr.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_type.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/ procfs_vfsops.c /usr/src/sys/modules/procfs/../../miscfs/procfs/procfs_vnops.c ===> randomdev @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/i386/include perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/kern/bus_if.m perl @/kern/makeobjops.pl -h @/kern/device_if.m make: don't know how to make bf_cbc.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/UNCLAD. What did I overlook? Have I missed any message here? -- Marc Schneiders --- marc@venster.nl --- marc@schneiders.org FreeBSD unclad.freebeastie.org 5.0-CURRENT (SMP) NetBSD vax.freebeastie.org 1.4Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 15:55:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (tun.AwfulHak.org [194.242.139.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B152237B9D0 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:55:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17312; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:52:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00655; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:49:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200006302149.WAA00655@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Will Andrews Cc: gnu not unix , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: roots shell == /bin/sh please In-Reply-To: Message from Will Andrews of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:51:54 EDT." <20000629135154.F24486@argon.gryphonsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:49:00 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Is the /bin/sh in freebsd more buggy than, say, the solaris /bin/sh? > > If so, thats's probably why it's currently /bin/csh. > > I doubt it; Solaris /bin/sh is likely more buggy. *GASP* Tell me about it ! I am eternally surprised by it ! > -- > Will Andrews > GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- > ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ > G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 16: 4:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA38137BB4F; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA11261; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:04:28 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug: kernel hangs at boot Message-ID: <20000630160428.B11113@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org> <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org>; from ache@freebsd.org on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:29:11AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:29:11AM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > The reason found. I have "-O2 pipe" instead of default "-O pipe", but I have > it working all the time from very beginning. Why this becomes broken? Because the code change now triggers one of the bugs that has made us always say "don't use anything above -O". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 16:10:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.cvzoom.net (ns.cvzoom.net [208.226.154.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89D7937BC68 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 19116 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2000 23:10:49 -0000 Received: from acs-63-90-93-128.zoominternet.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (63.90.93.128) by ns.cvzoom.net with SMTP; 30 Jun 2000 23:10:49 -0000 Message-ID: <395D28F8.369234D3@cvzoom.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:10:48 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: "Andrey A. Chernov" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug: kernel hangs at boot References: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org> <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org> <20000630160428.B11113@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > Because the code change now triggers one of the bugs that has made us > always say "don't use anything above -O". But, it's still OK to use -march=pentium, though. I'd hate to be using 386 instructions. 8-) -- - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 16:29:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E458B37C333 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12310 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:29:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:29:46 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: perl6 first time build problem Message-ID: <20000701032944.A12302@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I say "make cleandir; make obj; make depend;" in perl directory and got: ... ===> perl Extracting config.h (with variable substitutions) Extracting cflags (with variable substitutions) Extracting writemain (with variable substitutions) Extracting myconfig (with variable substitutions) /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/perl/../miniperl/miniperl:No such file or dire ctory *** Error code 1 -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 16:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interware.hu (mail.interware.hu [195.70.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AC937C39F for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from kinshasa-05.budapest.interware.hu ([195.70.51.133] helo=jules.elischer.org) by mail.interware.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 138Ai6-00060U-00; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 02:00:38 +0200 Message-ID: <395D30E6.41C67EA6@elischer.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:44:38 -0700 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray Cc: Chris Csanady , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RSA support.. References: <200006290725.CAA30609@isua5.iastate.edu> <200006291841.UAA03695@grimreaper.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > > Hi > > Please check /usr/src/UPDATING Unfortunatly /etc/updateing doesn't warn you of this.. I hit this as well. What is in /etc/updating is so vague and nondescript that it doesn't help wit this problem. (at least as it was when I hit it) > M > > > I have been trying to get ssh working in current, but with no luck. > > Since I updated recently, all I get is: > > > > ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). > > > > I have been off the lists for a bit, so I apologize if I missed > > something, but this has always been confusing. It used to just > > work. Now that i doesn't though, I have no clue where to start > > looking. There appears to be no ssl(8) manpage, or anything in > > the list archives about this. > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 )_.---._/ presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 16:46:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEEA37C3AC for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:46:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip161.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.161]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29801; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5UNkKO01862; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:46:20 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: Marc Schneiders Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails Message-ID: <20000630194620.B1010@earthlink.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from marc@oldserver.demon.nl on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:34:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, you missed the fact that crypto is now required to build the kernel. Put cvs-crypto in your cvsup file, cvsup, and try again. Eric On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 09:34:02PM +0200, Marc Schneiders wrote: > make: don't know how to make bf_cbc.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/UNCLAD. > > What did I overlook? Have I missed any message here? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 18: 0:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF26437C4D1 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 3416 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2000 01:00:47 -0000 Received: from du172.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.172) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 1 Jul 2000 01:00:47 -0000 Message-ID: <395D2AAD.3311CECF@mail.ptd.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:18:05 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML driver config file to replace LINT References: <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> <395A1950.50ECD8D5@mail.ptd.net> <200006271619.BAA25205@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000625195803.G470@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <20000626115008.B462@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200006280714.BAA03596@harmony.village.org> <200006290019.SAA59924@harmony.village.org> <200006292338.RAA37275@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <395B9762.5B95A329@mail.ptd.net> "Thomas M. Sommers" writes: > : I was thinking of something analogous to the way syscalls.master is used > : to generate several files. > > This works well for syscalls.master, but I don't think it would work > well in the driver area. Call me crazy. I will readily admit that I know nothing about how the drivers are implemented, so perhaps I'm the crazy one. If it can be done, though, I think it would be a good idea. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 18:47:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kbtfw.kubota.co.jp (kbtfw.kubota.co.jp [133.253.102.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA60337B811; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp) Received: by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp; id KAA12128; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:47:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from unknown(133.253.122.1) by kbtfw.kubota.co.jp via smap (V4.2) id xma012107; Sat, 1 Jul 00 10:46:52 +0900 Received: from jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp ([192.168.7.250]) by kbtmx.eto.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id KAA08034; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:46:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost.ttr.kubota.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by jkpc15.tk.kubota.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-02/21/99) with ESMTP id KAA00895; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:45:45 +0900 (JST) To: markm@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: randomdev and APM. Not working together? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000701104544S.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:45:44 +0900 From: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, If I use randomdev for ssh, then APM seem to have stopped working. I'm loading randomdev by randomdev_load="YES" in /boot/loader.conf. Afrer that, APM has disappeared from boot message, and I get: # apm apm: can't open /dev/apm: Device not configured # If I disable randomdev by commenting out /boot/loader.conf, APM starts working again. And off course, ssh stops working. Adding RANDOMDEV to config file doesn't make any difference. Am I doing something wrong? BTW, I'm using current as of noon June 30 JST (from CTM:src-cur.4419.gz). Thank you, Haro =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 22:37: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135F37B5ED for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA18153; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:36:20 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Volodymyr Kostyrko Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: On the modules Message-ID: <20000630223620.D11113@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000630185935.D669@limbo.dn.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000630185935.D669@limbo.dn.ua>; from arcade@aist.net on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:59:35PM +0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:59:35PM +0300, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > When I was compiling the modules I face the following situation. > While its possible to compile kernel even with -O3 -pipe, the modules > still copmpiled with -O -pipe. Where I can change this? You know this is unsupported by The FreeBSD Project don't you? You know people have been know to have weird problems that were narrowed down to using -O2 and higher, don't you. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jun 30 23:49:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E6737B709 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13685; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:49:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007010649.IAA13685@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: randomdev and APM. Not working together? References: <20000701104544S.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <20000701104544S.haro@tk.kubota.co.jp> ; from haro@tk.kubota.co.jp (Munehiro Matsuda) "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:45:44 +0900." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 08:49:50 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If I use randomdev for ssh, then APM seem to have stopped working. This is wierd; I am running this randomdev on my Libretto, (I wrote it there), and it and APM are both fine. > Am I doing something wrong? No - you are doing everything right. Can you do any debugging on this? Are you able perhaps to trace the kernel and see where it fails? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 3:28:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from garm.bart.nl (garm.bart.nl [194.158.170.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA7337BA45; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org (lucifer.is.an.elder.of.the.ninth-circle.org [195.38.216.226]) by garm.bart.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e61ASPF86974; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:28:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA45321; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:28:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:28:22 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Garrett Wollman Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/isc-dhcp - Imported sources Message-ID: <20000701122822.T307@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <200006290733.IAA00439@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <20000629100125.E33366@dragon.nuxi.com> <200006291738.NAA95364@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200006291738.NAA95364@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:38:03PM -0400 Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -On [20000629 20:03], Garrett Wollman (wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) wrote: >< said: > >> 1. Everyone uses /bin/csh (show me a box that has never had root login at >> least once. > >I can show you several boxes where first thing root did after logging >in was to configure itself for a Real Shell(tm). I personally would >be much happier if root's default shell were /bin/sh (as it is on all >of the new non-FreeBSD boxes we have around here). Although I agree 200% with your /bin/sh statement, heck I was one of the people advocating it on -arch, I think it is time we bury this dead horse once and for all. We have had this endless discussion on -arch, -committers got rigged with it and now we're infecting -current. Please put this noise to rest. Please. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project No man is good enough to govern another man without the other's consent... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 3:40:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF68837B583; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15281; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:40:29 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011040.MAA15281@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Ollivier Robert Cc: "FreeBSD Current Users' list" , markm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Missing module in current Perl References: <20000630095521.A79835@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> In-Reply-To: <20000630095521.A79835@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> ; from Ollivier Robert "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:55:21 +0200." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:40:29 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It seems that the newly added Errno module is not in the Makefile... Thanks! I've got a collection of perl tweaks that I'll be adding later. M > Index: Makefile > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile,v > retrieving revision 1.2 > diff -u -2 -r1.2 Makefile > --- Makefile 2000/06/27 15:28:10 1.2 > +++ Makefile 2000/06/30 07:46:17 > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ > # $FreeBSD: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile,v 1.2 2000/06/27 15:28:10 markm Exp $ > > -SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ > +SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Errno Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ > NDBM_File Opcode POSIX SDBM_File Socket Hostname Syslog attrs re > > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/ITM -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr > The Postman hits! The Postman hits! You have new mail. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 3:43:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135237BA35 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15348; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:43:47 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011043.MAA15348@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: Hasan Diwan Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Buildworld successful References: <20000630113710.A28826@acm.rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <20000630113710.A28826@acm.rpi.edu> ; from Hasan Diwan "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:37:10 -0400." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:43:47 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Around 10am PDT yesterday, -CURRENT built and installed without an > error. Thanks! Excellent to know! M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 3:55: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C97337BA0E for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 03:54:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15422; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:55:25 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011055.MAA15422@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: perl6 first time build problem References: <20000701032944.A12302@nagual.pp.ru> In-Reply-To: <20000701032944.A12302@nagual.pp.ru> ; from "Andrey A. Chernov" "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 03:29:46 +0400." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:55:25 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I say "make cleandir; make obj; make depend;" in perl directory and got: Hi Do a "make build-tools" first. I'm working on getting this done properly into cross-tools. A real "make world" will also bootstrap you properly. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 6:32: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from kessen.yi.org (node188f5.a2000.nl [24.132.136.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6F4337B7C5 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 06:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@kessen.yi.org) Received: (qmail 57357 invoked by uid 7770); 1 Jul 2000 13:31:17 -0000 Received: from picard.kessen.home (HELO PICARD) (192.168.0.11) by gateway.kessen.home with SMTP; 1 Jul 2000 13:31:17 -0000 Message-ID: <082501bfe360$9b00cdf0$0b00a8c0@PICARD> Reply-To: "B.O.F.H. at kessen.yi.org" From: "B.O.F.H. at kessen.yi.org" To: Subject: current kernel build probs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:31:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0822_01BFE371.5E6CA010" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0822_01BFE371.5E6CA010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, on june 30th I ftped the current kernel tree from ftp.uk.freebsd.org to = test it on my 4.0-20000608-stable machine. After I setup a config file with the .hints file I did make depend (duh) = and found out that config needed to be updated (RTFM) I got usr.sbin = from the current tree and did just that. After that make depend rocked = and I started make to build the kernel. **First I got the error that crypto/blowfish didn't exhist. I looked in = my 2000608 tree and found it. I copied the ./sys/crypto directory to my current tree and god rid of that problem. **After that I ran into the problem that I got an assembly error: cc -c -x assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs = -Wst rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline = -Wcast-qual =20 -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include = -D_KERN EL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 ../../i386/i386/bioscall.s /tmp/cca13049.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/cca13049.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/cca13049.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY. I did a diff between this bioscall.s from current and 2000608-stable and = found there to be small differences but I don't see a problem. root@kessen / > diff bioscall.old bioscall.new 26c26 < * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/bioscall.s,v 1.6 1999/08/28 00:43:41 = peter Exp $ --- > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/bioscall.s,v 1.7 2000/05/22 17:02:53 = obrien Exp $ 68c68 < lcall _bioscall_vector --- > lcall *_bioscall_vector 133c133 < lcall _bioscall_vector /* 16-bit call */ --- > lcall *_bioscall_vector /* 16-bit call */ hmm. I don't see a problem, maybe I used diff wrongly but copying the = bioscall.s from 2000608-stable over the current one solves the problem = anyway. **Now I have another small problem;) which is that the kernelcompile = quits on an miibus problem: cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs = -Wstrict-pro totypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual = -fformat -extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I/usr/include = -mpref erred-stack-boundary=3D2 -c /usr/src/sys/modules/mii/../../dev/mii/ukphy_subr.c cc -O -pipe -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs = -Wstrict-pro totypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual = -fformat -extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I. -I@ -I/usr/include = -mpref erred-stack-boundary=3D2 -c miibus_if.c miibus_if.c: In function `MIIBUS_READREG': miibus_if.c:27: warning: implicit declaration of function `DEVOPMETH' miibus_if.c:27: `miibus_readreg' undeclared (first use in this function) miibus_if.c:27: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once miibus_if.c:27: for each function it appears in.) miibus_if.c: In function `MIIBUS_WRITEREG': miibus_if.c:38: `miibus_writereg' undeclared (first use in this = function) miibus_if.c: In function `MIIBUS_STATCHG': miibus_if.c:49: `miibus_statchg' undeclared (first use in this function) miibus_if.c: In function `MIIBUS_MEDIAINIT': miibus_if.c:60: `miibus_mediainit' undeclared (first use in this = function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/mii. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY. Does anyone here experience this problem too? I tried using the = 2000608-stable mii sources in the current tree but this doesn't make me = a happy camper either;)(aka doesn't work) My kernel config files look like this: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GATEWAY : machine i386 ident GATEWAY maxusers 10 hints "GATEWAY.hints" options MAXDSIZ=3D"(32*1024*1024)" options DFLDSIZ=3D"(32*1024*1024)" cpu I586_CPU # aka Pentium(tm) cpu I686_CPU # aka Pentium Pro(tm) options NO_F00F_HACK options COMPAT_43 options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options INET #Internet communications protocols device ether #Generic Ethernet device loop 1 #Network loopback device device bpf 4 #Berkeley packet filter options TCP_COMPAT_42 #emulate 4.2BSD TCP bugs options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100 #limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options IPFILTER #ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options IPSTEALTH #support for stealth forwarding options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST options FFS #Fast filesystem #options FFS_EXTATTR #Extended attribute support options NFS_NOSERVER #Disable the NFS-server code. options CD9660 #ISO 9660 filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device options SOFTUPDATES options QUOTA #enable disk quotas options RANDOMDEV options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=3D199309L options HZ=3D100 options CLK_CALIBRATION_LOOP options CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION options CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION device scbus #base SCSI code device ch #SCSI media changers device da #SCSI direct access devices (aka disks) device sa #SCSI tapes device cd #SCSI CD-ROMs device pass #CAM passthrough driver device pt #SCSI processor type device ses #SCSI SES/SAF-TE driver device targ #SCSI target driver options SCSI_NO_SENSE_STRINGS options SCSI_NO_OP_STRINGS options SCSI_DELAY=3D3000 # Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device device pty #Pseudo ttys device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) device snp #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. device isa options AUTO_EOI_1 options AUTO_EOI_2 options MAXMEM=3D"(96*1024)" device atkbdc 1 device atkbd device vga device splash device sc 1 options MAXCONS=3D16 # number of virtual consoles options SC_DISABLE_DDBKEY # disable `debug' key options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT # disable reboot key sequence options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=3D200 # number of history buffer lines device npx device fdc device pca device eisa device pci options PCI_QUIET #quiets PCI code on chipset settings device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP #-Low Priority Probe Map (bits) # Allows the ncr to take precedence # 1 (1<<0) -> 810a, 860 # 2 (1<<1) -> 825a, 875, 885, 895 # 4 (1<<2) -> 895a, 896, 1510d=20 options SYM_SETUP_SCSI_DIFF #-HVD support for 825a, 875, 885 # disabled:0 (default), enabled:1 options SYM_SETUP_PCI_PARITY #-PCI parity checking # disabled:0, enabled:1 (default) options SYM_SETUP_MAX_LUN #-Number of LUNs supported # default:8, range:[1..64] device miibus device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') options PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=3D16 options SCSI_NCR_MAX_SYNC=3D10000 options SCSI_NCR_MAX_WIDE=3D1 options SCSI_NCR_MYADDR=3D7 /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GATEWAY.hints : hint.fdc.0.at=3D"isa" hint.fdc.0.port=3D"0x3F0" hint.fdc.0.irq=3D"6" hint.fdc.0.drq=3D"2" hint.fd.0.at=3D"fdc0" hint.fd.0.drive=3D"0" hint.atkbdc.0.at=3D"isa" hint.atkbdc.0.port=3D"0x060" hint.atkbd.0.at=3D"atkbdc" hint.atkbd.0.irq=3D"1" hint.vga.0.at=3D"isa" hint.sc.0.at=3D"isa" hint.npx.0.at=3D"nexus" hint.npx.0.port=3D"0x0F0" hint.npx.0.irq=3D"13" ------=_NextPart_000_0822_01BFE371.5E6CA010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
on june 30th I ftped the current kernel = tree from=20 ftp.uk.freebsd.org to test it = on my=20 4.0-20000608-stable machine.
 
After I setup a config file with the = .hints file I=20 did make depend (duh) and found out that config needed to be updated = (RTFM) I=20 got usr.sbin from the current tree and did just that. After that make = depend=20 rocked and I started make to build the kernel.
 
**First I got the error that = crypto/blowfish didn't=20 exhist. I looked in my 2000608 tree and found it. I copied the=20 ./sys/crypto
directory to my current tree and god = rid of that=20 problem.
 
**After that I ran into the problem = that I got an=20 assembly error:
 
cc -c -x
assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE = -O -Wall=20 -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wst
rict-prototypes =20 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual =20
-fformat-extensions -ansi  -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../..=20 -I/usr/include  -D_KERN
EL -include opt_global.h -elf =20 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2
../../i386/i386/bioscall.s
/tmp/cca1= 3049.s:=20 Assembler messages:
/tmp/cca13049.s:773: Error: operands given don't = match=20 any known 386
instruction
/tmp/cca13049.s:838: Error: operands = given don't=20 match any known 386
instruction
*** Error code 1

Stop in=20 /usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY.

I did a diff between this = bioscall.s from=20 current and 2000608-stable and found there to be small differences but I = don't=20 see a problem.
 
root@kessen / > diff bioscall.old=20 bioscall.new
26c26
<  * $FreeBSD: = src/sys/i386/i386/bioscall.s,v=20 1.6 1999/08/28 00:43:41 peter
Exp $
---
>  * $FreeBSD:=20 src/sys/i386/i386/bioscall.s,v 1.7 2000/05/22 17:02:53 obrien
Exp=20 $
68c68
<       lcall   = _bioscall_vector
---
>      =20 lcall  =20 *_bioscall_vector
133c133
<       = lcall   = _bioscall_vector        /*=20 16-bit call */
---
>      =20 lcall   *_bioscall_vector       = /*=20 16-bit call */

hmm. I don't see a problem, maybe I used diff = wrongly=20 but copying the bioscall.s from 2000608-stable over the current = one =20 solves the problem anyway.
 
**Now I have another small problem;) = which is that=20 the kernelcompile quits on an miibus problem:
 
cc -O -pipe  -D_KERNEL -Wall = -Wredundant-decls=20 -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-pro
totypes  -Wmissing-prototypes=20 -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat
-extensions -ansi = -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I@ -I/usr/include =20 -mpref
erred-stack-boundary=3D2=20 -c
/usr/src/sys/modules/mii/../../dev/mii/ukphy_subr.c
cc -O = -pipe =20 -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs = -Wstrict-pro
totypes =20 -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual =20 -fformat
-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I@=20 -I/usr/include  -mpref
erred-stack-boundary=3D2 -c=20 miibus_if.c
miibus_if.c: In function = `MIIBUS_READREG':
miibus_if.c:27:=20 warning: implicit declaration of function `DEVOPMETH'
miibus_if.c:27: = `miibus_readreg' undeclared (first use in this = function)
miibus_if.c:27:=20 (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
miibus_if.c:27: for = each=20 function it appears in.)
miibus_if.c: In function=20 `MIIBUS_WRITEREG':
miibus_if.c:38: `miibus_writereg' undeclared = (first use in=20 this function)
miibus_if.c: In function = `MIIBUS_STATCHG':
miibus_if.c:49:=20 `miibus_statchg' undeclared (first use in this function)
miibus_if.c: = In=20 function `MIIBUS_MEDIAINIT':
miibus_if.c:60: `miibus_mediainit' = undeclared=20 (first use in this function)
*** Error code 1

Stop in=20 /usr/src/sys/modules/mii.
*** Error code 1

Stop in=20 /usr/src/sys/modules.
*** Error code 1

Stop in=20 /usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY.
Does anyone here experience this = problem too? I=20 tried using the 2000608-stable mii sources in the current tree but this = doesn't=20 make me a happy camper either;)(aka doesn't work)
 
My kernel config files look like = this:
 
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GATEWAY = :
 
machine  i386
ident  GATEWAY
maxusers&= nbsp;10
hints  "GATEWAY.hints"
options=20  MAXDSIZ=3D"(32*1024*1024)"
options=20  DFLDSIZ=3D"(32*1024*1024)"
cpu  I586_CPU  # = aka=20 Pentium(tm)
cpu  I686_CPU  # aka Pentium=20 Pro(tm)
options  NO_F00F_HACK
options =  COMPAT_43
options=20  SYSVSHM
options  SYSVSEM
options =  SYSVMSG
options=20  USERCONFIG  #boot -c editor
options=20  VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor
options=20  INET   #Internet communications=20 protocols
device  ether   #Generic=20 Ethernet
device  loop 1  #Network loopback=20 device
device  bpf 4  #Berkeley packet=20 filter
options  TCP_COMPAT_42  #emulate 4.2BSD TCP=20 bugs
options  IPFIREWALL  #firewall
options=20  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about dropped=20 packets
options  IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent = proxy=20 support
options  IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D100 #limit=20 verbosity
options  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow = everything=20 by default
options  IPDIVERT  #divert = sockets
options=20  IPFILTER  #ipfilter support
options=20  IPFILTER_LOG  #ipfilter logging
options=20  IPSTEALTH  #support for stealth forwarding
options=20  TCP_DROP_SYNFIN  #drop TCP packets with = SYN+FIN
options=20  TCP_RESTRICT_RST #restrict emission of TCP RST
options=20  FFS   #Fast=20 filesystem
#options  FFS_EXTATTR  #Extended = attribute=20 support
options  NFS_NOSERVER  #Disable the NFS-server = code.
options  CD9660   #ISO 9660 = filesystem
options=20  PROCFS   #Process filesystem
options=20  FFS_ROOT  #FFS usable as root device
options=20  SOFTUPDATES
options  QUOTA   #enable disk=20 quotas
options        =20 RANDOMDEV
options  P1003_1B
options=20  _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options=20  _KPOSIX_VERSION=3D199309L
options  HZ=3D100
options=20  CLK_CALIBRATION_LOOP
options =  CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION
options=20  CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION
device  scbus   = ;#base=20 SCSI code
device  ch   #SCSI media=20 changers
device  da   #SCSI direct access = devices=20 (aka disks)
device  sa   #SCSI=20 tapes
device  cd   #SCSI=20 CD-ROMs
device  pass   #CAM passthrough=20 driver
device  pt   #SCSI processor=20 type
device  ses   #SCSI SES/SAF-TE=20 driver
device  targ   #SCSI target = driver
options=20  SCSI_NO_SENSE_STRINGS
options =  SCSI_NO_OP_STRINGS
options=20  SCSI_DELAY=3D3000 # Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI=20 device
device  pty  #Pseudo=20 ttys
device  speaker  #Play IBM BASIC-style = noises out=20 your speaker
device  gzip  #Exec gzipped=20 a.out's
device  vn  #Vnode driver (turns a file = into a=20 device)
device  snp  #Snoop device - to look at=20 pty/vty/etc..
device  isa
options =  AUTO_EOI_1
options=20  AUTO_EOI_2
options=20  MAXMEM=3D"(96*1024)"
device  atkbdc 1
device&n= bsp; atkbd
device  vga
device  splash
d= evice  sc 1
options=20  MAXCONS=3D16  # number of virtual consoles
options=20  SC_DISABLE_DDBKEY # disable `debug' key
options=20  SC_DISABLE_REBOOT # disable reboot key sequence
options=20  SC_HISTORY_SIZE=3D200 # number of history buffer=20 lines
device  npx
device  fdc
device &n= bsp;pca
device  eisa
device  pci
options=20  PCI_QUIET #quiets PCI code on chipset=20 settings
device  ncr  # NCR/Symbios=20 Logic
device  sym  # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer=20 chipsets)
options  SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP #-Low Priority = Probe Map=20 (bits)
     # Allows the ncr to take=20 precedence
     # 1 (1<<0) -> 810a, = 860
     # 2 (1<<1) -> 825a, 875, = 885,=20 895
     # 4 (1<<2) -> 895a, 896, = 1510d=20
options  SYM_SETUP_SCSI_DIFF #-HVD support for 825a, 875,=20 885
     # disabled:0 (default),=20 enabled:1
options  SYM_SETUP_PCI_PARITY #-PCI parity=20 checking
     # disabled:0, enabled:1=20 (default)
options  SYM_SETUP_MAX_LUN #-Number of LUNs=20 supported
     # default:8,=20 range:[1..64]
device  miibus
device  xl &n= bsp;#=20 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')
options=20  PANIC_REBOOT_WAIT_TIME=3D16
options=20  SCSI_NCR_MAX_SYNC=3D10000
options =  SCSI_NCR_MAX_WIDE=3D1
options=20  SCSI_NCR_MYADDR=3D7
 
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GATEWAY.hints=20 :
 
hint.fdc.0.at=3D"isa"
hint.fdc.0.port=3D"0x3F0"
hint.fdc.0= .irq=3D"6"
hint.fdc.0.drq=3D"2"
hint.fd.0.at=3D"fdc0"
hint.fd.0.= drive=3D"0"
hint.atkbdc.0.at=3D"isa"
hint.atkbdc.0.port=3D"0x060"hint.atkbd.0.at=3D"atkbdc"
hint.atkbd.0.irq=3D"1"
hint.vga.0.at=3D= "isa"
hint.sc.0.at=3D"isa"
hint.npx.0.at=3D"nexus"
hint.npx.0.po= rt=3D"0x0F0"
hint.npx.0.irq=3D"13"
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0822_01BFE371.5E6CA010-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 7:13: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ints.ru (ints.ru [194.67.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF01737B79B for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 07:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilmar@ints.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ints.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA13885 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:12:59 +0400 (MSD) Received: from ws-ilmar.ints.ru(194.67.173.16) via SMTP by ints.ru, id smtpdn13882; Sat Jul 1 18:12:51 2000 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:12:51 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: /sys hierarchy Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can somebody move thing around in sys? I mean put all fs code under let say '/sys/fs' subdir. And all network protocols code under /sys/net (or netproto)? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 7:26:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9421737B51E for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 07:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000701142619.UDYB26299.relay02@chello.nl>; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:26:19 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18357; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:26:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:26:33 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy Message-ID: <20000701162633.A18343@freebie.wbnet> Reply-To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from ilmar@ints.ru on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:12:51PM +0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:12:51PM +0400, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: > > Can somebody move thing around in sys? I mean put all fs code under let > say '/sys/fs' subdir. And all network protocols code under /sys/net > (or netproto)? Why? Because you like it better? Or to confuse the h*ck out of people who are used to the current tree? -- Wilko Bulte http://www.freebsd.org "Do, or do not. There is no try" wilko@freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl Yoda - The Empire Strikes Back To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 7:38:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ints.ru (ints.ru [194.67.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F8D37BB0E; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilmar@ints.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ints.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA14766; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:38:10 +0400 (MSD) Received: from ws-ilmar.ints.ru(194.67.173.16) via SMTP by ints.ru, id smtpdu14764; Sat Jul 1 18:38:06 2000 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:38:05 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" To: wilko@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy In-Reply-To: <20000701162633.A18343@freebie.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Can somebody move thing around in sys? I mean put all fs code under let > > say '/sys/fs' subdir. And all network protocols code under /sys/net > > (or netproto)? > Why? Because you like it better? Or to confuse the h*ck out of people who > are used to the current tree? I think that it would be better because kernel become be better structured that way. Now we have more that 40 subdirs in /sys, 4 fs subdirs (isofs, fs, miscfs, ufs), 3 standalone fs dirs (msdosfs, ntfs and nwfs). isofs and fs subdirs are containing only one entry each. So why not to merge all this code under one subdir /sys/fs? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 8: 1:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EA337B52A for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07097; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:01:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 11:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200007011501.LAA07097@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /sys hierarchy In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Can somebody move thing around in sys? I mean put all fs code under let > say '/sys/fs' subdir. And all network protocols code under /sys/net > (or netproto)? Why? What benefit would that have? -GAWollman PS: Be careful how you answer this question. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 8: 2:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id EC09337B52A; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:02:34 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: perl6 first time build problem Message-ID: <20000701080234.A61514@freebsd.org> References: <20000701032944.A12302@nagual.pp.ru> <200007011055.MAA15422@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200007011055.MAA15422@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:55:25PM +0200 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 12:55:25PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Do a "make build-tools" first. I'm working on getting this done properly > into cross-tools. I found more quick manual way: 1) building/installing libperl 2) building/installing miniperl 3) to do the rest BTW, is there a way to add CFLAGS (highly-optimized for me) when building additional perl object modules? I see something with name 'cflags' extracted now, so it can helps maybe. This problem stays too long... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 8:15: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ints.ru (ints.ru [194.67.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E2937B6FE for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 08:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilmar@ints.ru) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ints.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA16231; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:14:43 +0400 (MSD) Received: from ws-ilmar.ints.ru(194.67.173.16) via SMTP by ints.ru, id smtpdp16229; Sat Jul 1 19:14:36 2000 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:14:35 +0400 (MSD) From: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" To: Garrett Wollman Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy In-Reply-To: <200007011501.LAA07097@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Can somebody move thing around in sys? I mean put all fs code under let > > say '/sys/fs' subdir. And all network protocols code under /sys/net > > (or netproto)? > > Why? What benefit would that have? Some order, i suppose. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 9:29: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AF137B7FF for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa15-01.ix.netcom.com [207.93.148.1]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20672; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17652; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:28:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007011628.JAA17652@ix.netcom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: celebris.tddhome: tomdean set sender to tomdean@ix.netcom.com using -f From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: eogren@earthlink.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20000630194620.B1010@earthlink.net> (message from Eric Ogren on Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:46:20 -0400) Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails References: <20000630194620.B1010@earthlink.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes, you missed the fact that crypto is now required to build the kernel. > Put cvs-crypto in your cvsup file, cvsup, and try again. ^^^^^^^^^^ Does cvs-crypto replace src-crypto? I know it is in updating, but, before 20000625, src-crypto was used. tomdean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 9:39:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517D837B8EE for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17519; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:39:45 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011639.SAA17519@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Thomas D. Dean" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails References: <200007011628.JAA17652@ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <200007011628.JAA17652@ix.netcom.com> ; from "Thomas D. Dean" "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 09:28:53 MST." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 18:39:45 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Yes, you missed the fact that crypto is now required to build the kernel. > > Put cvs-crypto in your cvsup file, cvsup, and try again. > ^^^^^^^^^^ > Does cvs-crypto replace src-crypto? It is a superset, and includes other stuff. See src/share/examples/cvsup/* M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 9:45:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (hermes.dialup.ru [194.87.16.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839D637B5C7 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA44750; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:44:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:44:43 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: mark@grondar.za Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: perl standard modules not installed properly (with fix) Message-ID: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is after 'make world'. Just start perl and type 'use IO::Socket;' It seems that Errno.pm is not installed, i.e. contrib/perl5/ext/Errno is not handled. Fix included below: 61_# perl use IO::Socket; Can't locate Errno.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach /usr/libdata/perl/5.006 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.006/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.006 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.006 .) at /usr/libdata/perl/5.006/mach/IO/So cket.pm line 17. --- Makefile.bak Tue Jun 27 19:28:10 2000 +++ Makefile Sat Jul 1 20:41:46 2000 @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ # $FreeBSD: src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/Makefile,v 1.2 2000/06/27 15:28:10 markm Exp $ -SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ +SUBDIR= B ByteLoader DB_File Dumper DProf Errno Peek Fcntl Glob IO SysV \ NDBM_File Opcode POSIX SDBM_File Socket Hostname Syslog attrs re all: man3pages -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 9:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6C437B698 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17595; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:00:07 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011700.TAA17595@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Andrey A. Chernov" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl standard modules not installed properly (with fix) References: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> In-Reply-To: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> ; from "Andrey A. Chernov" "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 20:44:43 +0400." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 19:00:07 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This is after 'make world'. Just start perl and type 'use IO::Socket;' > It seems that Errno.pm is not installed, i.e. contrib/perl5/ext/Errno is > not handled. Fix included below: Thanks! I've got this and some other tweaks commit-ready; I'll do them tomorrow... M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 9:59:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interware.hu (mail.interware.hu [195.70.32.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1AA37B5C7 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from kinshasa-14.budapest.interware.hu ([195.70.51.142] helo=jules.elischer.org) by mail.interware.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 138Qri-0004Ea-00 for ; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 19:15:39 +0200 Message-ID: <395E2334.41C67EA6@elischer.org> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 09:59:36 -0700 From: Julian Elischer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Xbatt now fails on -current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used to run (well I still do, but it fails) xbatt. It used to give an accurate picture of the state of my batteries. in the last week, xbatt no-longer runs. it complains that jules# xbatt xbatt: cannot open apm device (/dev/apm0 or /dev/apm): Device not configured jules# Is there something else I need to add? (I have device apm in the config file) -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ julian@elischer.org ( OZ ) World tour 2000 )_.---._/ presently in: Budapest v To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 10:17:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170B237B81D for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Received: from ix.netcom.com (sil-wa15-01.ix.netcom.com [207.93.148.1]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20581; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tomdean@localhost) by ix.netcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17826; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:17:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomdean@ix.netcom.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200007011717.KAA17826@ix.netcom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: celebris.tddhome: tomdean set sender to tomdean@ix.netcom.com using -f From: "Thomas D. Dean" To: mark@grondar.za Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <200007011639.SAA17519@grimreaper.grondar.za> (message from Mark Murray on Sat, 01 Jul 2000 18:39:45 +0200) Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails References: <200007011628.JAA17652@ix.netcom.com> <200007011639.SAA17519@grimreaper.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I used the attached supfile in 6/30. I have used it for a couple of years. Now, it does not fetch all the 'blowfish collection. Is this a hole in using the individual names? I will switch to cvs-crypto. tomdean === supfile ===== *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all src-eBones src-secure src-crypto doc-all ports-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 10:26: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (grimreaper.grondar.za [196.7.18.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BAC37B81D for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grimreaper.grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grimreaper.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17823; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:26:33 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grimreaper.grondar.za) Message-Id: <200007011726.TAA17823@grimreaper.grondar.za> To: "Thomas D. Dean" Cc: mark@grondar.za, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails References: <200007011717.KAA17826@ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <200007011717.KAA17826@ix.netcom.com> ; from "Thomas D. Dean" "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 10:17:19 MST." Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 19:26:33 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Check /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/* M > I used the attached supfile in 6/30. I have used it for a couple of > years. Now, it does not fetch all the 'blowfish collection. > > Is this a hole in using the individual names? I will switch to > cvs-crypto. > > tomdean > > === supfile ===== > *default host=cvsup.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/usr > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=. > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > src-eBones > src-secure > src-crypto > doc-all > ports-all > -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 10:28:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.mich.com (mercury.mich.com [64.79.64.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4625337B81D for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@almanac.yi.org) Received: from argon.gryphonsoft.com (pm007-001.dialup.bignet.net [64.79.81.33]) by mercury.mich.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25182; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:28:16 -0400 Received: by argon.gryphonsoft.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15048199B; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:26:17 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: "Ilmar S. Habibulin" Cc: Garrett Wollman , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy Message-ID: <20000701132617.G62464@argon.gryphonsoft.com> References: <200007011501.LAA07097@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ilmar@ints.ru on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:14:35PM +0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:14:35PM +0400, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: > Some order, i suppose. There is plenty of order in the current system. Garrett Wollman suggested that you answer this question carefully, and you have not done that, but provide a vague summary of your beliefs. Moreover, many people are used to the current system; changing it is a fundamental, non-trivial job. This requires good reasoning. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 12:13:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD69F37B69A for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA59800; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:12:58 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Andrews Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy Message-ID: <20000701121258.A59770@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200007011501.LAA07097@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20000701132617.G62464@argon.gryphonsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000701132617.G62464@argon.gryphonsoft.com>; from andrews@technologist.com on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:26:17PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:14:35PM +0400, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: > > Some order, i suppose. > > There is plenty of order in the current system. Feh. > Garrett Wollman suggested that you answer this question carefully, and > you have not done that, but provide a vague summary of your beliefs. Yes he did. Talk to various committers and you'll see that many have ideas where files should live. There have been long threads on this issue that got nowhere. The reason things are in such a messy state is when something new is brought in, or is changed suffiently much for a repo copy the person take the chance to put the files where *they* think they should live. Vs. where there would be consistency in the /sys tree. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 12:20:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6A237B967 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:20:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA59861; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:20:43 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "B.O.F.H. at kessen.yi.org" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current kernel build probs Message-ID: <20000701122043.B59770@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <082501bfe360$9b00cdf0$0b00a8c0@PICARD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <082501bfe360$9b00cdf0$0b00a8c0@PICARD>; from admin@kessen.yi.org on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 03:31:04PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 03:31:04PM +0200, B.O.F.H. at kessen.yi.org wrote: > on june 30th I ftped the current kernel tree from ftp.uk.freebsd.org to > test it on my 4.0-20000608-stable machine. Huh... you are now mixing a 5-CURRENT (ie, CVS head branch) kernel source with a 4-STABLE (ie, RELENG_4) world [in this case toolchain]. What in the world make you think this would work? > cc -c -x > assembler-with-cpp -DLOCORE -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wst If you would do ``as -v'' you will see you have GAS version 2.9.1. > /tmp/cca13049.s: Assembler messages: > /tmp/cca13049.s:773: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 > instruction > /tmp/cca13049.s:838: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 This is because your /usr/src tree is now bogusly out of sync. > I did a diff between this bioscall.s from current and 2000608-stable > and found there to be small differences but I don't see a problem. Since there *is* a difference, it must be the problem. > root@kessen / > diff bioscall.old bioscall.new > 68c68 > < lcall _bioscall_vector > --- > > lcall *_bioscall_vector The AT&T ASM syntax requires "*" in front of indirect calls. Unfortuneatly GAS 2.9.1 was brain damaged and doesn't understand it as it should. Goodness knows how GAS 2.9.1 figures out how to do the right thing, but it mostly does. However, 5-CURRENT now has GAS 2.10.0 as the assembler. It has been *VASTLY* improved and now accepts and adhears much more strictly to the AT&T i386 ASM syntax. Without the leading "*", GAS 2.10.0 is very unhappy with the instruction. > hmm. I don't see a problem, maybe I used diff wrongly but copying the > bioscall.s from 2000608-stable over the current one solves the problem > anyway. I REALLY have to ask what you are trying to accomplish here. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 12:22:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (beachbum.freebsd.dk [212.242.127.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DE937B8D3; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01488; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:22:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:12:58 PDT." <20000701121258.A59770@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 21:22:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1482.962479350@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20000701121258.A59770@dragon.nuxi.com>, "David O'Brien" writes: >On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:26:17PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:14:35PM +0400, Ilmar S. Habibulin wrote: >> > Some order, i suppose. >> >> There is plenty of order in the current system. > >Feh. > >> Garrett Wollman suggested that you answer this question carefully, and >> you have not done that, but provide a vague summary of your beliefs. > >Yes he did. Talk to various committers and you'll see that many have >ideas where files should live. There have been long threads on this >issue that got nowhere. The reason things are in such a messy state is >when something new is brought in, or is changed suffiently much for a >repo copy the person take the chance to put the files where *they* think >they should live. Vs. where there would be consistency in the /sys tree. In fact, I belive there actually was a consensus for moving filesystems under /sys/fs but not for moving net*. The reason for the difference in concensus is probably that net* is a systematic prefix. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 12:31:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 3939437B8D3; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 12:31:24 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bug: kernel hangs at boot Message-ID: <20000701123124.A5348@freebsd.org> References: <20000628230322.B53060@freebsd.org> <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000630062911.A81946@freebsd.org>; from ache@freebsd.org on Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:29:11AM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 30, 2000 at 06:29:11AM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 11:03:22PM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > Fresh -current kernel with fresh -current bootblocks loaded ok but hangs in > > boot (no diagnostics even printed, just silent hang with "/" on the screen). > > > > Kernel from Jun14 with fresh -current bootblocks (i.e. the same bootblocks) > > booted Ok. > > The reason found. I have "-O2 pipe" instead of default "-O pipe", but I have > it working all the time from very beginning. Why this becomes broken? BTW, -march=pentiumpro still worked Ok -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 13:35: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.osd.bsdi.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FB537B9FC; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:35:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA40084; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:35:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Will Andrews , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /sys hierarchy In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 01 Jul 2000 12:12:58 PDT." <20000701121258.A59770@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 13:35:40 -0700 Message-ID: <40081.962483740@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Yes he did. Talk to various committers and you'll see that many have > ideas where files should live. There have been long threads on this > issue that got nowhere. The reason things are in such a messy state is > when something new is brought in, or is changed suffiently much for a > repo copy the person take the chance to put the files where *they* think > they should live. Vs. where there would be consistency in the /sys tree. Talking to "various committers" will only yield various opinions and end up leading nowhere, however. Perhaps if someone were to take it upon themselves to post a detailed proposal of where things should be moved to, others could at least comment more authoritatively (and substantially) on the topic rather than just engaging in more vague hand-waving. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 13:38:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from oldserver.demon.nl (oldserver.demon.nl [212.238.105.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CA537B798 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oldserver.demon.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA79923; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:38:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc@oldserver.demon.nl) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:38:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Marc Schneiders X-Sender: marc@unclad.freebeastie.org To: Mark Murray Cc: "Thomas D. Dean" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld ok, but kernel fails In-Reply-To: <200007011639.SAA17519@grimreaper.grondar.za> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Mark Murray wrote: > > > Yes, you missed the fact that crypto is now required to build the kernel. > > > Put cvs-crypto in your cvsup file, cvsup, and try again. > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > Does cvs-crypto replace src-crypto? > > It is a superset, and includes other stuff. > > See src/share/examples/cvsup/* > OK, I am guilty. Did not study the cvs-all messages sufficiently in detail :-) -- Marc Schneiders --- marc@venster.nl --- marc@schneiders.org FreeBSD unclad.freebeastie.org 5.0-CURRENT (SMP) NetBSD vax.freebeastie.org 1.4Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 13:49: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 6EC0837B9D6; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 13:49:07 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: perl, cron or sh bug Message-ID: <20000701134907.A29454@freebsd.org> References: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> <200007011700.TAA17595@grimreaper.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200007011700.TAA17595@grimreaper.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:00:07PM +0200 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:00:07PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > I've got this and some other tweaks commit-ready; I'll do them tomorrow... When running as cron job, from shell script, perl now always say this: "Can't ignore signal CHLD, forcing to default" (see perl.c) I am not shure, is this cron bug calling with ignoring SIGCHLD, sh bug, or perl bug. I think cron shouldn't call anything with SIGCHLD ignored. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 14: 3: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 873F637B819; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:03:01 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl, cron or sh bug Message-ID: <20000701140301.A32165@freebsd.org> References: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> <200007011700.TAA17595@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000701134907.A29454@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000701134907.A29454@freebsd.org>; from ache@freebsd.org on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:49:07PM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:49:07PM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:00:07PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > I've got this and some other tweaks commit-ready; I'll do them tomorrow... > > When running as cron job, from shell script, perl now always say this: > "Can't ignore signal CHLD, forcing to default" (see perl.c) > > I am not shure, is this cron bug calling with ignoring SIGCHLD, sh bug, or > perl bug. I think cron shouldn't call anything with SIGCHLD ignored. Yes, it was in cron/do_command.c (void) signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN); What about re-allowing SIGCHLD after second fork (i.e.vfork), just before execle()? Any objections? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 14:13: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 8853D37B951; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:13:02 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: Mark Murray Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: perl, cron or sh bug Message-ID: <20000701141302.A34043@freebsd.org> References: <20000701204443.A43672@nagual.pp.ru> <200007011700.TAA17595@grimreaper.grondar.za> <20000701134907.A29454@freebsd.org> <20000701140301.A32165@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20000701140301.A32165@freebsd.org>; from ache@freebsd.org on Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:03:01PM -0700 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 02:03:01PM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 01:49:07PM -0700, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 07:00:07PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > > I've got this and some other tweaks commit-ready; I'll do them tomorrow... > > > > When running as cron job, from shell script, perl now always say this: > > "Can't ignore signal CHLD, forcing to default" (see perl.c) > > > > I am not shure, is this cron bug calling with ignoring SIGCHLD, sh bug, or > > perl bug. I think cron shouldn't call anything with SIGCHLD ignored. > > Yes, it was in cron/do_command.c > (void) signal(SIGCHLD, SIG_IGN); > > What about re-allowing SIGCHLD after second fork (i.e.vfork), just before > execle()? Any objections? OpenBSD already have simpler fix in rev 1.7 (below). I'll think which way is better... --------- Set SIGCHLD to SIG_DFL not SIG_IGN to prevent "perl -w" from complaining "Can't ignore signal CHLD, forcing to default". Setting SIGCHLD to SIG_IGN means "don't provide exit status for my children" on some OSes which is not what we want--we just don't want to catch SIGCHLD since our parent does that for us. --------- -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 14:38:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.houston.rr.com (sm2.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6F037B57A for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@houston.rr.com) Received: from bleep.craftncomp.com ([24.27.77.164]) by mail.houston.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:38:10 -0500 Received: from bloop.craftncomp.com (bloop.prth.tensor.pgs.com [202.12.111.1]) by bleep.craftncomp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00593 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:35:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shocking@houston.rr.com) Received: from bloop.craftncomp.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bloop.craftncomp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53033 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 16:35:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shocking@bloop.craftncomp.com) Message-Id: <200007012135.QAA53033@bloop.craftncomp.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: cvs-cur.6450.gz Fatal error: Bytecount too large. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:35:16 -0500 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After some absence from the net (my machines were in a box between Australia & Houston) I've finaaly connected up and am updating my cvs repository via CTM again. However, when I attempt to apply cvs-cur.6450.gz I get the above error. Anybody got a good one? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 15: 5:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F1837BB45 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from calcaphon.demon.co.uk ([193.237.19.5] helo=bluebottle.qubesoft.com) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 138VNi-0000Xi-0V; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:05:01 +0100 Received: from henny.webweaving.org (henny.qubesoft.com [192.168.1.5]) by bluebottle.qubesoft.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA59554; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:04:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by henny.webweaving.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05697; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:00:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from n_hibma@qubesoft.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:00:21 +0100 (BST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@localhost Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Sascha Lucky Luck Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: coldsync - Visor kernel panic / bug #17961 In-Reply-To: <962097439.3958711f4042f@mail.online.ie> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nothing has happened so far. I have a handspring now, but lack the time currently to fix it. I'll have a go at it tomorrow if there is some time left. Nick On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Sascha Lucky Luck wrote: > Hi all, > > what is the story with this bug? (If you want a hand with testing > patches, etc., please drop me a mail) > > I'm running 5.0-CURRENT (Jun 20) > > Hardware: > > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: usb0: controller> on > uhci0 > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0 > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev > 1.00/1. > 00, addr 1 > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self > powered > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub1: vendor 0x0698 product 0x9999, class > 9/1, re > v 1.00/0.01, addr 2 > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhub1: 5 ports with 4 removable, self > powered > Jun 26 15:34:28 bofh /kernel: uhid0: vendor 0x0698 product 0x1786, rev > 1.00/0.01 > , addr 3, iclass 3/0 > > > and the Visor: > > Jun 26 17:13:43 bofh /kernel: ugen0: Handspring Inc Handspring Visor, > rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4 > > > Thanks in advance, > > s. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- n_hibma@webweaving.org n_hibma@freebsd.org USB project http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 19:46:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8C037B580; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23843; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA10132; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10128; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:46:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: new sound card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alright, this just bit me in the ass... I just bought a card today that says "Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI" on the box. Well, as far as I can tell this card uses the es1371 chip. Well, I did a little digging because apparently the card's pci device id wasn't in the es137x.c file. So what I did was I put it in the file, and tried to make it configure as a 1371 chip. However I got an error when I did this: pcm0: port 0xe400-0xe43f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcm0: ac97 codec invalid or not present (id == 0) The mixer would not configure with this, and the driver wouldn't attach, so I went to ac97.c and found the error message, and commented out the "return ENODEV" statement so that I could make it attach the driver and see what would happen. Well, when I did that, I got another error in addition to the 2 above: pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready however, the driver attaached, and I can use the mixer devices, and I can play CD's, but pcm audio still won't play, and there are no errors on the console when I try to play mp3's or any other kind of sounds. So I guess my question is: is anyone working on getting the device with id 0x58801274 (the closest card originally listed in the file was: 0x50001274) to work? Or does anyone already have this card working? Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 19:53:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4233137B563 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (root@rac9.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.149]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24023 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00119 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00115 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:53:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac9.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: more info on sound card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I managed to find a little more info on this chip in my new soundcard. It is slightly different from a regular es1371... and in linux it even get's some of its own #defines: CT5880REV_CT5880_C is it's revision. (or 0x02) and the chip says CT5880 on it. I'm assuming it's not much different, but so far in the linux driver, there are a couple of little differences between this chip and the regular 1371. If I get this working, I'll submit whatever I did to the driver to make it work, but I may need a little help here. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 20:25:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA7037B5C9; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA99151; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:25:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA56324; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200007020325.VAA56324@harmony.village.org> To: current@freebsd.org Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Help with Linux interpreter Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 21:25:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was able to install the acroread4 port on my -current machine of a week or two ago. I find when I try to run acroread4 I get the following error: ELF interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found Abort But /compat/linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 exists and points to ld-2.1.2.so, which also exists. It was branded as SVR4, and I changed this to Linux, but that didn't help. What am I doing wrong? I reinstalled all the ports in the chain of acroread4. I've also done a rm -rf /usr/compat/linux; mkdir /usr/compat/linux (/compat -> /usr/compat on my system). What other information do you need to help me? Also, I think there's a fd leak in brandelf: brandelf * ... File 'libresolv-2.1.2.so' is of brand 'Linux' (3). File 'libresolv.so.2' is of brand 'Linux' (3). brandelf: error opening file librt-2.1.2.so: Too many open files brandelf: error opening file librt.so.1: Too many open files brandelf: error opening file libtermcap.so.2: Too many open files brandelf: error opening file libtermcap.so.2.0.8: Too many open files ... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 20:29:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4599137BC36 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:29:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (root@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA05299 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12683 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12679 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:29:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:29:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: patches for my new soundcard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got the soundcard to work, patches to /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ess137x.c are coming in a minute. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 1 20:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD1237BC4A for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (root@rac1.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.141]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03656 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12950 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac1.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12946 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:37:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac1.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:37:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: patch to be committed please? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is a patch with the changes I made to get my soundcard to work. It was pretty simple, it was just a matter of one more id that needed to be added so that the ac97 stuff could be turned on. It was trying to do a pre-ac97 2.1 init instead of what I should have been doing. Anyway, it works now. :-) Here it is: --- es137x.c.old Sun May 28 11:15:14 2000 +++ es137x.c Sat Jul 1 23:22:00 2000 @@ -68,6 +68,7 @@ #define ES1370_PCI_ID 0x50001274 #define ES1371_PCI_ID 0x13711274 #define ES1371_PCI_ID2 0x13713274 +#define ES1371_PCI_ID3 0x58801274 #define ES_BUFFSIZE 4096 @@ -493,7 +494,7 @@ es->ctrl = 0; es->sctrl = 0; /* initialize the chips */ - if (rev == 7 || rev >= 9) { + if (rev == 7 || rev >= 9 || rev == 2) { #define ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF 0x07 bus_space_write_4(es->st, es->sh, ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF, 0x20); if (debug > 0) printf("es_init rev == 7 || rev >= 9\n"); @@ -724,7 +725,8 @@ device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1370"); return 0; } else if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID || - pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) { + pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 || + pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) { device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1371"); return 0; } @@ -789,7 +791,8 @@ } if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID || - pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) { + pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 || + pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) { if(-1 == es1371_init(es, pci_get_revid(dev))) { device_printf(dev, "unable to initialize the card\n"); goto bad; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message