From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 4:37:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mgate04.so-net.ne.jp (mgate04.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4974A37BC9B for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 04:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daito@magical.egg.or.jp) Received: from mail.rj8.so-net.ne.jp (mspool04.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.183]) by mgate04.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta9/3.6W00032811) with ESMTP id UAA23803 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:37:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from MAIL (pfa6f57.tkyont.ap.so-net.ne.jp [210.250.111.87]) by mail.rj8.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W99092111) with SMTP id UAA16022 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:37:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <2907.954676073488@magical.egg.or.jp> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:47:53 +0900 (JST) From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJSIlJCVJJWsjMiMwIzAjMRsoQhsoQg==?= Reply-To: daito@magical.egg.or.jp To: =?iso-2022-jp?B??= Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCIXolIiUkJUklayMyIzAjMCMxJSohPCVXGyhCGyhC?==?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJXMhKkw1TkFCTjgzJGIkIiRqIXobKEIbKEI=?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset =ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ==================================================================       アイドル2001オープン!! ================================================================== ■RealG2 ライブチャット新企画会員大募集!!  本サイトは、月々の定額料金10000円で、会員になられた皆様には、プ ログラムのサービス中であれば、いくらでもRealG2プレーヤを活用した ライブ映像でのチャットが、楽しむかとができます。 ■10分間無料体験サービス!!  サイトがオープンする3月21より 最初の10分間がお試し体験として無 料となります。 10分間経ちますと自動的に画面が停止しますので、後で料金を請求するとい ったトラブルは、ありません。 ■会員の皆様限定!見ることのできないプライベートな映像!?  ライブチャットプログラムサービス以外の時間帯は、女の子たちのプライベ ート映像を、ほとんど無編集の状態で見ることができます。 随時、収録した新しいものを増やして、ライブラリー化していく予定です。 ■2000年エッソレースクーンの飯島真由、2000年ブレイク寸前の川井知亜紀 4月6日から初舞台に挑戦する、西丸優子ら、芸能界でメチャ頑張っている、女 の子達がぞくぞく登場する、ライブチャットです。 女の子達のプロモーションビデオは、だれでも見れます、ので、是非のぞきに 来て下さい。メンバー専用の水着ビデオ制作予定有り。 ■6月にはオフ会を行ないます。 アイドル達に直接会いに来て下さい。 写真撮影会も企画中。(メンバーに限る) ■ネットアイドルを紹介して下さい。  芸能界を目指す可愛い女の子を是非紹介して下さい。採用させていただいた 場合は、  特別優遇させていただきます。 %%%IDOL2001ゥ 蔗痕繽闕粹豌旭ぢ  GALsプロフィールとライブチャットスケジュールをご参照ください To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 8:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hetnet.nl (net014s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E950937BE04 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 08:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from burnman@hetnet.nl) Received: from burnman ([195.121.177.64]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.327.32); Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:28:26 +0200 Message-ID: <000801bf9cb8$e0112a00$b603fea9@burnman> From: "burnman" To: Subject: pdf file Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:33:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF9CC9.88012840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF9CC9.88012840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi do you have all the documents in a pdf file to download. It's easier = and simple. greetz =20 burnman ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF9CC9.88012840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF9CC9.88012840-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 9:26:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF52237B99A; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17681; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:26:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:26:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: dillon@backplane.com, nik@freebsd.org, briggs@ninthwonder.com, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have finally finished editing and rewriting the FreeBSD Handbook's section on the FreeBSD VM System The most up-to-date version will be on http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt This document is very long. What should we do about it? A. Split it into several chapter. B. Leave it as is. The IPV6 section is still under work, I should have it ready by tonight. Hopefully, I will be able to merge the vinum documents into this chapter also. Sorry, I realize that the deadline is very close, and I apologize. It was just very long and tedious to organize the text into a more readable form -- keichii@bsdconspiracy.net Wide Spread BSD Conspiracy to take over the world OS market To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 12:28: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABF137B884 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30175 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:28:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:28:13 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Handcook Capitalization Patch Message-ID: <20000402142813.C27486@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The titles in the handbook are currently inconsistently capitalized. Some capitalize only the first letter, some capitalize it properly, and some capitalize every single word. This patch will fix that. I'd like to know if this is OK with you guys and I'd like to have it in by tonight (Sun, 2 Apr). Index: backups/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.19 chapter.sgml --- backups/chapter.sgml 2000/03/21 19:55:41 1.19 +++ backups/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:11 @@ -175,7 +175,7 @@ - Using a new tape for the first time + Using a New Tape for the First Time The first time that you try to read or write a new, completely blank tape, the operation will fail. The console messages should be @@ -320,7 +320,7 @@ - Do nothing + Do Nothing “Do nothing” is not a computer program, but it is the most widely used backup strategy. There are no initial costs. There @@ -626,7 +626,7 @@ - What about backups to floppies? + What about Backups to Floppies? Can I use floppies for backing up my data? Index: boot/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/boot/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 chapter.sgml --- boot/chapter.sgml 2000/03/25 14:18:24 1.5 +++ boot/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:12 @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ - The boot blocks: Bootstrap stages 1 and 2 + The Boot Blocks: Bootstrap Stages 1 and 2 Bootstrapping is the process whereby a computer probes and initializes its devices, and @@ -124,7 +124,7 @@ - loader: Bootstrap stage three + Loader: Bootstrap Stage Three The loader is the final stage of the three-stage bootstrap, and is located on the filesystem, usually as @@ -144,7 +144,7 @@ command set. - loader program flow + Loader Program Flow During initialization, the loader will probe for a console and for disks, and figure out what disk it is @@ -173,7 +173,7 @@ - loader built-in commands + Loader Built-In Commands The easy-to-use command set comprises of: @@ -314,7 +314,7 @@ - loader examples + Loader Examples Here are some practical examples of loader usage. @@ -362,7 +362,7 @@ - Kernel interaction during boot + Kernel Interaction During Boot Once the kernel is loaded by either loader (as usual) or - Kernel bootflags + Kernel Boot Flags Here are the more common boot flags: @@ -433,7 +433,7 @@ - Init: Process control initialization + Init: Process Control Initialization Once the kernel has finished booting, it passes control to the user process init, which is located at @@ -442,7 +442,7 @@ loader. - Automatic reboot sequence + Automatic Reboot Sequence The automatic reboot sequence makes sure that the filesystems available on the system are consistent. If they @@ -454,7 +454,7 @@ - Single-user mode + Single-User Mode This mode can be reached through the automatic reboot @@ -496,7 +496,7 @@ - Multi-user mode + Multi-User Mode If init finds your filesystems to be in order, or once the user has finished in - Resource configuration (rc) + Resource Configuration (rc) The resource configuration system reads in configuration defaults from @@ -526,7 +526,7 @@ - Shutdown sequence + Shutdown Sequence Upon controlled shutdown, via shutdown, init will attempt to run the script Index: contrib/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.178 diff -u -r1.178 chapter.sgml --- contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 08:56:38 1.178 +++ contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:24 @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ to at least give it a second look. - What Is Needed + What is Needed The following list of tasks and sub-projects represents something of an amalgam of the various core team TODO lists and Index: disks/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 chapter.sgml --- disks/chapter.sgml 2000/03/25 20:05:40 1.16 +++ disks/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:26 @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ - Disk naming + Disk Naming Physical drives come in two main flavours, IDE, or SCSI; but there @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ own drivers and devices. - Physical disk naming conventions + Physical Disk Naming Conventions @@ -92,7 +92,7 @@
- Slices and partitions + Slices and Partitions Physical disks usually contain slices, unless they are @@ -112,7 +112,7 @@
- Mounting and unmounting filesystems + Mounting and Unmounting Filesystems The filesystem is best visualized as a tree, rooted, as it were, at /. @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ drives. - The fstab file + The fstab File During the boot process, filesystems listed in /etc/fstab are @@ -172,7 +172,7 @@ - The mount command + The mount Command The &man.mount.8; command is what is ultimately used to mount filesystems. @@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ - The umount command + The umount Command The umount command takes, as a parameter, one of a mountpoint, a device name, or the or @@ -315,7 +315,7 @@ - Adding disks + Adding Disks Originally contributed by &a.obrien; 26 April 1998 @@ -407,7 +407,7 @@
- Using command line utilities + Using Command Line Utilities * Using Slices @@ -446,7 +446,7 @@ - Virtual disks: Network, memory, and file-based filesystems + Virtual Disks: Network, Memory, and File-Based Filesystems Besides the disks you physically insert into your computer; floppies, CDs, hard drives, and so forth, other forms of disks @@ -482,7 +482,7 @@ To create a new filesystem image with vnconfig: - Creating a new file-backed disk with vnconfig + Creating a New File-Backed Disk with vnconfig &prompt.root; dd if=/dev/zero of=newimage bs=1k count=5k 5120+0 records in @@ -503,7 +503,7 @@ - md: memory filesystem + md: Memory Filesystem md is a simple, efficient means to do memory filesystems. Index: eresources/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.40 diff -u -r1.40 chapter.sgml --- eresources/chapter.sgml 2000/02/01 11:48:11 1.40 +++ eresources/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:29 @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ included. - Mailing lists + Mailing Lists Though many of the FreeBSD development members read USENET, we cannot always guarantee that we will get to your questions in a timely @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ should be consulted before posting a question. - List summary + List Summary General lists: The following are general lists which anyone is free (and encouraged) to join: @@ -345,7 +345,7 @@ - How to subscribe + How to Subscribe All mailing lists live on FreeBSD.org, so to post to a given list you @@ -391,7 +391,7 @@ - List charters + List Charters All FreeBSD mailing lists have certain basic rules which must be adhered to by anyone using them. Failure to comply @@ -906,7 +906,7 @@ - Usenet newsgroups + Usenet Newsgroups In addition to two FreeBSD specific newsgroups, there are many others in which FreeBSD is discussed or are otherwise relevant to @@ -916,7 +916,7 @@ from courtesy of Warren Toomey wkt@cs.adfa.edu.au. - BSD specific newsgroups + BSD Specific Newsgroups @@ -932,7 +932,7 @@ - Other Unix newsgroups of interest + Other Unix Newsgroups of Interest @@ -1049,7 +1049,7 @@ - World Wide Web servers + World Wide Web Servers Index: internals/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/internals/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 chapter.sgml --- internals/chapter.sgml 2000/03/17 10:51:47 1.18 +++ internals/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:38 @@ -62,7 +62,7 @@ - DMA: What it Is and How it Works + DMA: What it is and How it Works Copyright © 1995,1997 &a.uhclem;, All Rights Reserved. 10 December 1996. Last Update 8 October @@ -1621,7 +1621,7 @@ - IPv6/IPsec implementation + IPv6/IPsec Implementation Contributed by &a.shin;, 5 March 2000. Index: kerneldebug/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -r1.21 chapter.sgml --- kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 1999/12/16 16:04:24 1.21 +++ kerneldebug/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:40 @@ -232,7 +232,7 @@ - Debugging a crash dump with DDD + Debugging a Crash Dump with DDD Examining a kernel crash dump with a graphical debugger like ddd is also possible. Add the @@ -246,7 +246,7 @@ - Post-mortem Analysis of a Dump + Post-Mortem Analysis of a Dump What do you do if a kernel dumped core but you did not expect it, and it is therefore not compiled using config -g? Not @@ -284,7 +284,7 @@ - On-line Kernel Debugging Using DDB + On-Line Kernel Debugging Using DDB While kgdb as an offline debugger provides a very high level of user interface, there are some things it cannot do. The @@ -479,7 +479,7 @@ - On-line Kernel Debugging Using Remote GDB + On-Line Kernel Debugging Using Remote GDB This feature has been supported since FreeBSD 2.2, and it is actually a very neat one. Index: staff/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/staff/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.112 diff -u -r1.112 chapter.sgml --- staff/chapter.sgml 2000/03/22 19:07:58 1.112 +++ staff/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:44 @@ -933,7 +933,7 @@ - Who Is Responsible for What + Who is Responsible for What Index: users/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/users/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- users/chapter.sgml 2000/03/08 11:12:22 1.1 +++ users/chapter.sgml 2000/04/02 19:24:44 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ --> - Users and basic account management + Users and Basic Account Management Synopsis @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ - The superuser account + The Superuser Account The superuser account, usually called root, comes preconfigured, and facilitates @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ - System accounts + System Accounts System users are those used to run services such as DNS, mail, web servers, and so forth. The reason for this is @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ - User accounts + User Accounts User accounts are the primary means of access for real people to the system, and these accounts insulate the user and @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ - Modifying accounts + Modifying Accounts pw is a powerful and flexible means to modify accounts, but adduser @@ -312,7 +312,7 @@ database. - Interactive chpass by superuser + Interactive chpass by Superuser #Changing user database information for jru. Login: jru @@ -335,7 +335,7 @@ information, and only for themselves. - Interactive chpass by normal user + Interactive chpass by Normal User #Changing user database information for jru. Shell: /usr/local/bin/tcsh @@ -398,7 +398,7 @@ - Limiting and personalizing users + Limiting and Personalizing Users Quotas allow the system administrator to set disk usage maximums, and users to check their disk usage, if quotas are To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 18:27:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail2.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D77937BC6B for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 18:27:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 2345 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2000 01:27:16 -0000 Received: from du13.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.13) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 3 Apr 2000 01:27:16 -0000 Message-ID: <38E7F33D.C316ABF7@mail.ptd.net> Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:26:21 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In this sentence (in 24.1.1.1) : Today, the fallibility of that argument is obvious -- as are the parallels to algorithmic design and code generalization. I think 'fallibility' should be 'fallacy'. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 20:19:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from canolog.ninthwonder.com (canolog.ninthwonder.com [151.199.66.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D46A037BAE1 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from briggs@canolog.ninthwonder.com) Received: (qmail 12101 invoked by uid 169); 3 Apr 2000 03:19:36 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:19:36 -0400 From: Allen Briggs To: Michael Chin-yuan Wu Cc: dillon@backplane.com, nik@freebsd.org, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000402231936.B17819@canolog.ninthwonder.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The most up-to-date version will be on > http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt I have a correction to make. The "Miscellaneous Workings of the VM System" should be attributed to Matthew Dillon, I believe. Unless I am mistaken, the arose from his explanations to my questions when I edited his piece for DaemonNews. I would take credit (but neither request nor require it) for encouraging him to describe it in more detail, but I can not take credit for contributing it. ;-) Thank you, BTW, for your (collective) work on the documentation project. -allen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 21:45:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891E937BB3D for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA44118; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:15:28 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:15:28 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Documenters , core@daemonnews.org Cc: Alex Subject: New BSD site (was: Hi.) Message-ID: <20000403141528.N42140@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In case you missed this one. ----- Forwarded message from Alex ----- > Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:07:02 -0400 (EDT) > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > > I am writing in to ask if we could have a link posted about our non-profit > BSD news site called bsdfreak.org on your FreeBSD News page. Thanks! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 2 23:33:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3978837BD55; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 23:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA17598; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 01:33:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 01:33:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: Allen Briggs Cc: dillon@backplane.com, nbm@freebsd.org, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review In-Reply-To: <20000402231936.B17819@canolog.ninthwonder.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Allen Briggs wrote: > > The most up-to-date version will be on > > http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt > > I have a correction to make. The "Miscellaneous Workings of the VM > System" should be attributed to Matthew Dillon, I believe. Unless > I am mistaken, the arose from his explanations to my questions when > I edited his piece for DaemonNews. > > I would take credit (but neither request nor require it) for > encouraging him to describe it in more detail, but I can not > take credit for contributing it. ;-) > > Thank you, BTW, for your (collective) work on the documentation > project. Thank you, I changed it. By the way, I had meant to have nbm@freebsd.org as a recipient, not nik@freebsd.org I apologize. Going back at it again now :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 2:36:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253BC37BF4B; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 02:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA09444; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:36:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:36:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: jim@freebsd.org Cc: nbm@freebsd.org, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review In-Reply-To: <20000402231936.B17819@canolog.ninthwonder.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The VM section is modified slightly. The IPV6 Section is complete. The Bootloader section is merged. (Thanks JHB!!!) The full version (spellchecked) is on http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/ I have decided to hold merging the vinum article until I receive the article on ata0 from Soren and the article on FFS from Adrian, since they all belong under Disk Management and Architecture. (It is half done. I still need to do ASCII art with Mr. Lemis' pictures and so forth.) Besides, the chapter is already 106195 chars long. :) -- keichii@bsdconspiracy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 3:53:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB2F37BDA0 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 03:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12c4Ti-000ISG-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200 Message-ID: <70943.954759186@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm in communication with the editor of the 4.4BSD book (McKusick et al) about the possibility of publishing chapter 2 (Design Overview) as part of the FreeBSD online handbook. Things look good. The editor is keen, especially since it'll be a good punt for the book. I plan to include a very complimentary blurb with a "click here to order this fine book" link. The editor still needs to take it up with the authors and their legal folks, so nothing's definite yet. However, while I'm waiting for more feedback from him, I though I'd ask for input on _where_ in the handbook this chapter should go if we get permission to reproduce it. For those of you who don't have the book (you really should), chapter 2 describes BSD UNIX brilliantly. It discusses the role of the kernel in device, memory and process management. It touches on disks, terminals, memory, processes and user credentials. I'd say that the newcomer to FreeBSD should be able to digest two thirds of the chapter. After using FreeBSD for 6 months or so, the remaining one third should fall into place as well. Although it's an overview of 4.4BSD, the entire chapter still applies to FreeBSD, except for the small bits that discuss block vs. character devices. :-) So.... where should it go? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 5:45:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4807837BEAA; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 05:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA14712; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 05:45:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 05:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004031245.FAA14712@freefall.freebsd.org> To: keichii@bsdconspiracy.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17686: report inaccuracy on www.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: report inaccuracy on www.freebsd.org State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 3 05:42:58 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev. 1.80 of www/en/docs.sgml Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 6:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3828E37BEA3; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 06:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA87185; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 06:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 06:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004031346.GAA87185@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17333: IPv6 man typos (rrenumd.conf.5, prefix.8, rrenumd.8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: IPv6 man typos (rrenumd.conf.5, prefix.8, rrenumd.8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 3 06:39:53 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Fixed by shin@FreeBSD.org at 03/12. Thanks for report! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 7:14:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DA337BEA2; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 07:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14945; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:14:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:14:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: phantom@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/17686: report inaccuracy on www.freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Referring to the CVS diff, I find that you only changed the CGI part in the Man Page search page. I apologize for not making myself clear. What I meant was there were two inaccuracies. And http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html still has a small mistake. Under this section: Manual Pages FreeBSD For release: 1.0, 1.1, 1.1.5.1, 2.0, 2.0.5, 2.1.0, 2.1.5, 2.1.6.1, 2.1.7.1, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.5, 2.2.6, 2.2.7, 2.2.8, 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, 4.0- ^^^^^ current, Ports. ^^^^^^^ Sorry to be of trouble. -- keichii@bsdconspiracy.net Wide Spread BSD Conspiracy to take over the world OS market -- | Synopsis: report inaccuracy on www.freebsd.org | State-Changed-From-To: open->closed | State-Changed-By: phantom | State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 3 05:42:58 PDT 2000 | State-Changed-Why: | Fixed in rev. 1.80 of www/en/docs.sgml | Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 8:20: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EBA37BF1C for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA88232 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:19:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA61424 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:19:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004031519.JAA61424@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Doc request Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:19:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000403115701.D62671@lucifer.bart.nl> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven writes: : It takes a small mail to an interested doc person (like me) or -doc That reminds me. Can we add a note to the make world documentation that says that it explicitly isn't supported for upgrading between two major releases? I went to take a look at this, but got lost quickly. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 8:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C10E37B9D7 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 08:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA58790; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:21:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13610; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:09:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:09:05 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Thomas Olausson Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: here's a contributor Message-ID: <20000401200904.A13550@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000324082248.8324.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> <001301bf9ab1$a5f88600$6da8a8c0@b3works.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <001301bf9ab1$a5f88600$6da8a8c0@b3works.com>; from Thomas Olausson on Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 05:37:17PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 05:37:17PM -0800, Thomas Olausson wrote: > I just joined the doc mailing list > and would like to contribute to documentation. Marvellous. Welcome aboard. > Areas where I can contribute is: > Linux->FreeBSD migration > Firewalling > Samba All things we could use help on. Of the three, I think the thing we're most lacking is "Linux -> FreeBSD" stuff -- the existing docs about firewalls and Samba are reasonably OS neutral. I've been saying for a long time that we need a "FreeBSD for a Linux user" document, that covers the differences between the two systems (or between a FreeBSD and a Redhat system, a Debian system, a SuSE system, and so on). > Where do I start? Read the documentation project primer at http://www.FreeBSD.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/ That consists of many small, linked, HTML files. If you want one big file (easier to print) add "book.html" to the end of that URL. The primer gives a technical introduction to the project. It's long, but don't let that put you off. If you don't fancy learning the markup and stuff we can do the markup from plain text for you (or, at least, someone will). > How am I supposed to contact to be doing this? Keep in touch with the list. When you've written something you want people to look at put it up on a website somewhere[1], and post an announcement to this list about it. You should cross post the announcement to other lists as appropriate -- for example, a "FreeBSD for Linux admins" document could be announced on the -questions list as well. Hope that helps. N [1] If you can't put it up on a website, let me know, and I will. -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 9:32:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691DF37BBA7 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA99297; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:31:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004031631.MAA99297@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000801bf9b9b$c8f07060$0201a8c0@168.1.1> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:31:24 -0500 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: NumairK Subject: RE: FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-Apr-00 NumairK wrote: > Hi > > I have a computer that uses a usb > Is there a way I can get usb on FreeBSD > and where do I order the cd If your computer only has a USB keyboard, then currently you cannot install FreeBSD on your machine. FreeBSD does support USB in the system, and I am currently working on getting installing FreeBSD onto USB only systems working. I do have an actual working test release done. It installs ok, but it is only a test release at the moment. > Thanks > Numair -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 9:32:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75B337B60A for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA99301; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 12:31:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004031631.MAA99301@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000402142813.C27486@holly.calldei.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:31:32 -0500 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Chris Costello Subject: RE: Handcook Capitalization Patch Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 02-Apr-00 Chris Costello wrote: > The titles in the handbook are currently inconsistently > capitalized. Some capitalize only the first letter, some > capitalize it properly, and some capitalize every single word. > This patch will fix that. I'd like to know if this is OK with > you guys and I'd like to have it in by tonight (Sun, 2 Apr). [ snip ] Looks great. Commit away. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 11: 0:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADF337BCE4 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA13383 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200004031800.LAA13383@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/02/08] docs/16585 doc no info documentation for nm (binutils) i 1 problem total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/09/09] docs/7873 doc poor initial configuration and documentat o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/08/23] docs/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/09/17] docs/13792 doc Difficult to find documentation of "secur o [1999/09/19] docs/13815 doc Out-of-date FAQ entries o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/09/29] docs/14035 doc tzfile.h referenced in tzfile(5) doesn't o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/25] docs/14532 doc Much of cam_cdbparse(3) prints in Courier o [1999/10/27] docs/14563 doc Wrong manpage produced by `man 4 fd' o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [1999/11/03] docs/14682 doc lprm(1) unaware of lp(1) Environment Vari o [1999/12/10] docs/15408 doc Description of ls and nlist wrong in man o [1999/12/19] docs/15561 doc regex(3) manpage needs update o [1999/12/23] docs/15661 doc Handbook doesn't properly document bootin o [2000/01/01] docs/15821 doc Wrong device names in manpages for lpt(4) o [2000/01/04] docs/15890 doc rfork(RFMEM) on SMP generates error o [2000/01/18] docs/16173 doc [PATCH] fix for the kld/cdev example o [2000/01/29] docs/16439 doc fdp-primer - difficulties with split SGML o [2000/02/23] docs/16934 doc anon transfer log doesn't log all xfers o [2000/02/26] docs/17014 doc send-pr sets MAIL_AGENT unconditionally o [2000/03/01] docs/17101 doc Useless reference in the doscmd manpage o [2000/03/01] docs/17105 doc Wrong crossreference in ndc(8). o [2000/03/08] docs/17269 doc Description of Symbols in nm(1) o [2000/03/13] docs/17364 doc Fix minor errors and omissions in FAQ o [2000/03/18] docs/17469 doc Missing man page: sigwait o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield o [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/21] docs/17544 doc login.conf(5) should have pointer to cap_ o [2000/03/22] docs/17552 doc Documentation error in divert(4) o [2000/03/23] docs/17566 doc [PATCH] ssh(1) and sshd(8) manpage error o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/01] docs/17745 doc wrong environment variable in manpage 37 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 15:49:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Alice.BMTS.Com (alice.bmts.com [216.183.128.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4760337BB96 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:48:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mweichert@bmts.com) Received: from bmts.com (ts2-g-p35.bmts.com [216.183.141.91]) by Alice.BMTS.Com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23888 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38E949C8.CEC0F007@bmts.com> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:47:54 -0700 From: Michael Weichert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Floppies... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey there. I am having trouble putting the boot files on floppies, as they are 1.44MB of size and the actual size of a floppy is 1.38MB. Please email me if you can help me. Thanks. Mike Weichert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 15:59:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEBE37BFAC for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org) Received: from [213.1.201.225] (helo=parish.my.domain) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12cFpP-0007VD-00; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:00:15 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01844; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:59:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:59:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Michael Weichert Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies... Message-ID: <20000403235939.B233@parish> References: <38E949C8.CEC0F007@bmts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38E949C8.CEC0F007@bmts.com>; from mweichert@bmts.com on Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 06:47:54PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 06:47:54PM -0700, Michael Weichert wrote: > Hey there. I am having trouble putting the boot files on floppies, as > they are 1.44MB of size and the actual size of a floppy is 1.38MB. > Only if you have bad sectors. Try a new floppy. > Please email me if you can help me. > Thanks. > Mike Weichert > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Beam me up Scottie, there's no intelligent life down here ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 16:52:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4265837B512; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:52:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12cGKY-0001wh-00; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:32:26 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.12 #7) id 12cGKY-000KDa-00; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:32:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:32:26 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Michael Weichert Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Floppies... Message-ID: <20000404003226.L85754@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <38E949C8.CEC0F007@bmts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <38E949C8.CEC0F007@bmts.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Weichert wrote: > Hey there. I am having trouble putting the boot files on floppies, as > they are 1.44MB of size and the actual size of a floppy is 1.38MB. The actual size of a floppy is 1440KB (1440*1024 bytes), which is not 1.38MB by any normal definition of MB. I would guess you're trying to copy it to a DOS formatted floppy rather than doing an image copy with dd(1) or a similar program. I'm not sure why you sent this to -doc either, -questions would probably seem more appropriate. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 17:54:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B336D37B74A for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA44521; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:54:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 01:54:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doc request Message-ID: <20000404015442.A44365@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200004031519.JAA61424@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <200004031519.JAA61424@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 09:19:20AM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 09:19:20AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20000403115701.D62671@lucifer.bart.nl> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven writes: > : It takes a small mail to an interested doc person (like me) or -doc > > That reminds me. Can we add a note to the make world documentation > that says that it explicitly isn't supported for upgrading between two > major releases? I went to take a look at this, but got lost quickly. I thought it was, you just had to be aware of the caveats in UPDATING first. Does the text I added to cutting-edge/chapter.sgml float your boat, or were you thinking of something different? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 18:41:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BBF37B758 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from the.man@breeno.net) Received: from breeno.net ([24.67.46.101]) by mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <20000404014117.YXBC2602.mail.rdc1.ab.home.com@breeno.net> for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:41:17 -0700 Message-ID: <38E94847.94C41B5F@breeno.net> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 19:41:27 -0600 From: Breen Ouellette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Simple Printer Setup omission Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This document is excellent: http://www.freeBSD.org/handbook/printing-simple.html However, there is one slight omission that when remedied will make the lives of newbies like me even more rich. The section on setting up lpd via printcap is great, except that it makes a passing reference at lpd being set up in rc. I took this at face value, and while there is truth to it - lpd is definitely configured in there - it is also disabled by default in rc.conf. If this were to be noted in this section of the handbook, I'm sure it will save many newbies the stress I was a victim of today. But damn, it sure feels good to finally have the thing working. :) Thanks for your documentation efforts! -Breen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 19:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E289037B54E for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA63861; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.184.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C4437B512 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lowell@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22056; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:25:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from lowell) Message-Id: <200004040225.WAA22056@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:25:45 -0400 (EDT) From: lowell@world.std.com Reply-To: lowell@world.std.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17780: FAQ entry for SMB share mounting Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17780 >Category: docs >Synopsis: if they ask for smbmount, they want sharity light >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 3 19:30:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lowell Gilbert >Release: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: n/a >Environment: latest FAQ >Description: Linux users searching for "smbmount" should find something. What they want is the sharity-light port. It might be nice if we explained how to search the ports, but we can't do that *everywhere* it might be relevant... >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: [515] (lowellg) faq> diff -c book.sgml.ORIG book.sgml *** book.sgml.ORIG Mon Apr 3 21:49:37 2000 --- book.sgml Mon Apr 3 22:17:34 2000 *************** *** 5025,5030 **** --- 5025,5040 ---- + + How do I mount a disk from a Windows machine that's on my + network, like smbmount in Linux? + + + Use the sharity light package in the ports collection. + + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 19:53:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from garamond.d2g.co.jp (garamond.d2g.co.jp [210.172.109.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C0B37B991 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kawa@d2g.co.jp) Received: from 2001 (domo.d2g.co.jp. [210.172.109.75]) by garamond.d2g.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with SMTP id LAA14181 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:47:19 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <000901bf9de0$d97c4b60$2900a8c0@d2g.co.jp> From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCQG44fU01RzcbKEI=?=" To: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:52:43 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-announce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 3 20:41:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BF137B5B4 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from cumin (cumin.rosetta.zon [172.16.16.106]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA41384; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <000701bf9de7$9b82a5a0$6a1010ac@rosetta.zon> From: "Sean Kelly" To: "Breen Ouellette" , References: <38E94847.94C41B5F@breeno.net> Subject: Re: Simple Printer Setup omission Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:41:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This document is excellent: > http://www.freeBSD.org/handbook/printing-simple.html THANK YOU! As author of that document, I absolutely appreciate such positive feedback. > However, there is one slight omission that when remedied will make > the lives of newbies like me even more rich. [ rc lpd setup ] Ah, yes, you're quite right. An individual (not me) is working on rewriting the chapter to make it even more accessible, readable, and what-not. He reads this mailing list, and I hope he takes your suggestion to heart. Take care. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 3:44:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF75737B7AD for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 03:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from blue (ip243.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.243]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA03858 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 03:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <046001bf9e22$fa20e640$0200000a@dinternet.dyn.ml.org> From: "Eric Ogren" To: Subject: Handbook: chap 18 rewrite? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 06:46:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi - For those of you who read -stable, you may have seen a couple of my posts in the "make world failed" flamewar. Anyways, in -stable I said that I would try to help improve the documentation, so here I am. I thought that one way to do this would be to re-write (or heavily modify) chap 18 of the Handbook, which is the one dealing with FBSD-CURRENT and FBSD-STABLE. Before I started, I had two questions (for now): 1) Is anybody else already in the process of doing this? I don't want to step on anyone's toes... 2) How wedded are people to the current chapter name? To me "The Cutting Edge" infers -CURRENT; -STABLE certainly isn't "cutting edge"; it just has the latest bugfixes. I was kind of envisioning a topology like: 18. Upgrading via source. 18.1 Synopsis [include warning about major release upgrades here] 18.2 Tracking -STABLE (bugfixes) 18.3 The cutting edge: -CURRENT [18.4 Syncing the source tree [CVSup, CTM, CVS] - maybe should be integrated before 18.2/18.3?] [18.5 Using make world? I'm not sure if this should be integrated into 18.2/18.3] Anyone have comments/suggestions/ideas? Thanks, Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 6:23:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EAD37B8E8 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 06:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for doc@freebsd.org id 12cTIh-000EDf-00; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:23:23 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07163 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:23:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:23:22 +0100 From: J McKitrick To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: rough doc patch Message-ID: <20000404142322.A7059@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just a thought for some documentation to be inserted somewhere in the handbook to reduce some confusion. Note to new users: Do not be misled. While staying up to date via cvsup is simple, upgrading across major revisions is not. Due to major changes between revisions, the procedure may become decidedly more complex. The suggestion is to monitor -stable a few weeks before performing the upgrade. It might even be worth monitoring -current before the release becomes official. However, be advised that upgrading from source is NOT for the faint of heart. Upgrading in binary mode via sysinstall is the preferred method for newcomers to FreeBSD. Otherwise, you may face complications, and these may even require reinstalling your system from scratch. However, if you decide to perform the upgrade via source, it might be good to watch -stable for a few weeks after the release, just to see what glitches others have run into. PLEASE do this for your own good. It may save you a great deal of grief farther down the line. NOTE: major upgrades often have special instructions which may even be modified from time to time after the release is made. These are usually found in /src/UPDATING, but revisions are often posted to -stable. They are also VERY important, and could mean the difference between a seamless upgrade and a nightmare of reinstalls and lost data. Proceed with caution. jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: Your tyranny that you aspire, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 8:40:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B1337BAB1 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA82920 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <38EA0D07.87EC855D@thehousleys.net> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:40:55 -0400 From: James Housley Organization: The Housleys dot Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 18.4.6.5. -CURRENT and above If you are tracking -CURRENT you can also pass the -j option to make. This lets make spawn several simultaneous processes. Is that -CURRENT 5.x or is it -CURRENT 5.x and -STABLE 4.x ? Jim -- The wise man built his network upon U*nx. The foolish man built his network upon Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 8:53:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653C537B61A for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 08:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix, from userid 1016) id 6DA939B17; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E7EBA1D; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:53:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: cdf.lists@pawn.primelocation.net To: James Housley Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html In-Reply-To: <38EA0D07.87EC855D@thehousleys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, James Housley wrote: > 18.4.6.5. -CURRENT and above > > If you are tracking -CURRENT you can also pass the -j option to make. > This lets make spawn several simultaneous > processes. > > Is that -CURRENT 5.x or is it -CURRENT 5.x and -STABLE 4.x ? > IIRC, that referred to 3.0-CURRENT (i.e. predecessor to RELENG_3 and above). ----- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 9:33:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB6E37BACA for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:33:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12cWEt-000NrL-00; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:31:39 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: J McKitrick Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rough doc patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:23:22 +0100." <20000404142322.A7059@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:31:39 +0200 Message-ID: <91718.954865899@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:23:22 +0100, J McKitrick wrote: > Note to new users: Do not be misled. While staying up to date via > cvsup is simple, upgrading across major revisions is not. Due to > major changes between revisions, the procedure may become decidedly > more complex. I think this is excellent, especially the bit that says that binary upgrades are preferred. In fact, I'd like for that bit to be emphasized (bold or whatever). Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 13:23:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2E537B908 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:23:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.228.245]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA67E0 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:23:08 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA64460 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:22:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:22:50 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP! New DocBook port Message-ID: <20000404222250.I21619@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I committed the DocBook 4.0 BETA 5 port. This is only intended to give people a first glance at the new DocBook DTD. If you find any peculiarities, please report them to the OASIS group or to Nik (since he is actively involved in the discussions (I hope that's ok Nik?)). If you find port problems with this port, please report them to me. -- Jeroen Ruigrok vd Werven/Asmodai asmodai@[wxs.nl|bart.nl|freebsd.org] Documentation nutter/C-rated Coder BSD: Technical excellence at its best The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Veni, Vidi, Vici... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 13:38:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F315F37B98D; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA71141; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:19:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:19:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Michael Chin-yuan Wu Cc: dillon@backplane.com, nik@freebsd.org, briggs@ninthwonder.com, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mwu@ece.utexas.edu on Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:26:28AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:26:28AM -0500, Michael Chin-yuan Wu wrote: > I have finally finished editing and rewriting the > FreeBSD Handbook's section on the FreeBSD VM System > > The most up-to-date version will be on > http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt Looks good. I assume you've been doing this in DocBook, and that's just the result of converting it to text. > This document is very long. What should we do about it? > A. Split it into several chapter. > B. Leave it as is. C. Create the "FreeBSD Hackers Handbook" I favour option C. :-), possibly calling it the "FreeBSD Developer's Handbook" instead. The s in your doc then become s in their own right. Trying to stuff everything in to the Handbook is, IMHO, a bad idea. The existing Handbook can be the "Users' Handbook", this new document can be for developers. The two audiences are separate. Other topics for a developer's handbook would be "Writing KLDs", "Writing device drivers", "Writing syscons screensavers", ... Probably a structure akin to: Introduction Architectural Overview The Kernel The VM System IPv4 IPv6/IPsec [...] Kernel Loadable [ er, what does the 'd' in 'kld' stand for? ] Syscons We might be able to pull in chapters 21 ("Adding new Kernel Configuration Options") and 22 ("Kernel Debugging") as well. 21 isn't really needed in a user-level document, although I can see a case for keeping 22 in the main Handbook. FWIW, IMHO Chapter 4.4 ("Making a port yourself") can be ripped out of the Handbook and in to its own "Porters Handbook"). It's a huge amount of text, most of which isn't useful to a 'normal' FreeBSD user. The "Contributing to FreeBSD" chapter can then point people at these documents ("Hackers Handbook", "Porters Handbook", "FDP Primer") depending on what potential contributors want to do. Thoughts? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 13:50:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F78637BB9B for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:50:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29387; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:49:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:49:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: J McKitrick Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rough doc patch In-Reply-To: <20000404142322.A7059@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, J McKitrick wrote: >Just a thought for some documentation to be inserted somewhere in the >handbook to reduce some confusion. > >Note to new users: Do not be misled. While staying up to date via cvsup is >simple, upgrading across major revisions is not. Due to major changes >between revisions, the procedure may become decidedly more complex. The >suggestion is to monitor -stable a few weeks before performing the upgrade. >It might even be worth monitoring -current before the release becomes >official. However, be advised that upgrading from source is NOT for the >faint of heart. Upgrading in binary mode via sysinstall is the preferred >method for newcomers to FreeBSD. Otherwise, you may face complications, >and these may even require reinstalling your system from scratch. > >However, if you decide to perform the upgrade via source, it might be good >to watch -stable for a few weeks after the release, just to see what >glitches others have run into. PLEASE do this for your own good. It may >save you a great deal of grief farther down the line. > >NOTE: major upgrades often have special instructions which may even be >modified from time to time after the release is made. These are usually >found in /src/UPDATING, but revisions are often posted to -stable. They are >also VERY important, and could mean the difference between a seamless >upgrade and a nightmare of reinstalls and lost data. Proceed with caution. > >jm Very good, my only suggestion is s/farther/further/ since we're talking extent and not distance. ;-) Brandon D. Valentine -- "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 17:27:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267DA37B8F5; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01464; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:27:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004050027.UAA01464@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, briggs@ninthwonder.com, dillon@backplane.com, Michael Chin-yuan Wu Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Apr-00 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:26:28AM -0500, Michael Chin-yuan Wu wrote: >> This document is very long. What should we do about it? >> A. Split it into several chapter. >> B. Leave it as is. > > C. Create the "FreeBSD Hackers Handbook" > > I favour option C. :-), possibly calling it the "FreeBSD Developer's > Handbook" instead. The s in your doc then become s in > their own right. > > Trying to stuff everything in to the Handbook is, IMHO, a bad idea. The > existing Handbook can be the "Users' Handbook", this new document can be > for developers. The two audiences are separate. I like this idea as well, as well as having a Porter's Handbook, etc. I know many people have been anxious to write good kernel developer type docco (Jeroen!) and this gives them a place to fold their work into the main distribution and get more eyes, ears, and fingers working on the task. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 18:49:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2327B37B8D1; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:49:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D8BA41C4A; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:49:13 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: Michael Chin-yuan Wu , dillon@backplane.com, briggs@ninthwonder.com, jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000404214913.I23367@jade.chc-chimes.com> References: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 06:19:23PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 06:19:23PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Kernel Loadable [ er, what does the 'd' in 'kld' stand for? ] ld is the userland loader, kld is the kernel loader. -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect Computer Horizons Corp - CVM e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org Office: 800-252-2421 x128 / Cell: 248-761-7272 PS. In front of peter and dfr I asked this FAQ. I apologized before asking :-> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 19: 4:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.calldei.com (adsl-208-191-146-189.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.146.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7041C37B64D; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA38009; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:04:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:04:32 -0500 From: Chris Costello To: Nik Clayton Cc: Michael Chin-yuan Wu , dillon@backplane.com, briggs@ninthwonder.com, jim@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000404210432.O27486@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@calldei.com References: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i In-Reply-To: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, April 04, 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Kernel Loadable [ er, what does the 'd' in 'kld' stand for? ] I believe it really refers to the mechanism involved. KLD, I believe, stands for Kernel Link eDitor (as ld is Link eDitor). -- |Chris Costello |Do something unusual today. Accomplish work on the computer. `------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 20:54:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (manchaca.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB3037B93E; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:54:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwu@tick.ece.utexas.edu) Received: from tick.ece.utexas.edu (tick.ece.utexas.edu [128.83.59.31]) by manchaca.ece.utexas.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09884; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:54:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:53:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Chin-yuan Wu To: Nik Clayton Cc: jim@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review In-Reply-To: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:26:28AM -0500, Michael Chin-yuan Wu wrote: > > The most up-to-date version will be on > > http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt I had offered Jim to send him the SGML version. He decided that it would be better for himself to "docbook" it and I agreed. :) > C. Create the "FreeBSD Hackers Handbook" > I favour option C. :-), possibly calling it the "FreeBSD Developer's > Handbook" instead. The s in your doc then become s in > their own right. > > Trying to stuff everything in to the Handbook is, IMHO, a bad idea. The > existing Handbook can be the "Users' Handbook", this new document can be > for developers. The two audiences are separate. I agree. I think we should consolidate the currently messy documentations in the man pages for the functions, the various small documents existing on developers' own websites, and much of the docs in the www collection. > Other topics for a developer's handbook would be "Writing KLDs", "Writing > device drivers", "Writing syscons screensavers", ... > Probably a structure akin to: > Introduction > Architectural Overview > The Kernel > The VM System > IPv4 > IPv6/IPsec > [...] > Kernel Loadable [ er, what does the 'd' in 'kld' stand for? ] > Syscons > We might be able to pull in chapters 21 ("Adding new Kernel Configuration > Options") and 22 ("Kernel Debugging") as well. 21 isn't really needed in > a user-level document, although I can see a case for keeping 22 in the > main Handbook. Agreed. > FWIW, IMHO Chapter 4.4 ("Making a port yourself") can be ripped out of > the Handbook and in to its own "Porters Handbook"). It's a huge amount > of text, most of which isn't useful to a 'normal' FreeBSD user. *nod nod nod* > The "Contributing to FreeBSD" chapter can then point people at these > documents ("Hackers Handbook", "Porters Handbook", "FDP Primer") depending > on what potential contributors want to do. > Thoughts? All of this should go into the same document to avoid confusion. We want just *one true source* for all the developers. And, I have another idea. :) After much work, it can become the backbone for: "The Design and Implementations of the FreeBSD Operating System" Coauthored by the FreeBSD developers. It may not be as coherent a document as the 4.4BSD one, and since we "live on the bleeding edge," it may get outdated soon. However, I still think we should publish a book of FreeBSD's own. Ideas would appreciated. :) -- keichii@bsdconspiracy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 21:41: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FCB37B732 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (kdrobnac@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA18002 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenny Drobnack To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD-4.0 and Parallel Port Zip 100 Drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure where to send this. This list seems like about the best place. It seems to be that Parallel Port 100 Zip Drives don't work in FreeBSD4.0-RELEASE (also tried -STABLE, with no difference). I'm thinking this should be added to the ERRATA for the 4.0 series. Along with how to fix this problem, when a fix is found. Note: I tried a SCSI Zip 100, and it worked great. Anyway, I'm not subscribed to this list, so cc me any replies. Thanks. ----- In computer terms, hardware is the stuff you can hit with a baseball bat, and software is the stuff you can only swear at. -from a web page explaining what hardware, software, and firmware are ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 22:10: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED8837BE90 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA90513; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from io.yi.org (h24-67-218-186.xx.wave.shaw.ca [24.67.218.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F437BCB2 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jake@io.yi.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by io.yi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05414; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jake) Message-Id: <200004050501.WAA05414@io.yi.org> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Burkholder Reply-To: jburkhol@home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17809: change email address in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17809 >Category: docs >Synopsis: change email address in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Apr 4 22:10:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jake Burkholder >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a >Description: Change my email address in the handbook... >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.180 diff -u -r1.180 chapter.sgml --- en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/04/03 02:15:36 1.180 +++ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/04/05 04:46:49 @@ -2649,7 +2649,7 @@ - Jake Burkholder jake@checker.org + Jake Burkholder jburkhol@home.com Index: ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.33 diff -u -r1.33 chapter.sgml --- ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/03/28 02:35:37 1.33 +++ ja_JP.eucJP/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml 2000/04/05 04:47:30 @@ -2826,7 +2826,7 @@ - Jake Burkholder jake@checker.org + Jake Burkholder jburkhol@home.com >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 4 23:36:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (adsl-63-192-209-55.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.192.209.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56EA37B845; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B24B103; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:35:11 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Nik Clayton Cc: Michael Chin-yuan Wu , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000404233511.B486@luna.cdrom.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.11i In-Reply-To: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 06:19:23PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Cc: list trimmed down to just Michael and -doc] On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 at 18:19:23 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 11:26:28AM -0500, Michael Chin-yuan Wu wrote: > > I have finally finished editing and rewriting the > > FreeBSD Handbook's section on the FreeBSD VM System > > > > The most up-to-date version will be on > > http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/_working_copy_new_chapter24.txt > > Looks good. I assume you've been doing this in DocBook, and that's > just the result of converting it to text. Actually, as he said in his reply, he's doing it in plain text. I find it's easier for me to mark up the plain text than go through it as DocBook already and try to fix errors. > > This document is very long. What should we do about it? > > A. Split it into several chapter. > > B. Leave it as is. > > C. Create the "FreeBSD Hackers Handbook" > > I favour option C. :-), possibly calling it the "FreeBSD Developer's > Handbook" instead. The s in your doc then become s in > their own right. I *really* like this idea. I think we should definitely do this, and do it as soon as we can. > Trying to stuff everything in to the Handbook is, IMHO, a bad idea. > The existing Handbook can be the "Users' Handbook", this new document > can be for developers. The two audiences are separate. Thank you, thank you, thank you :-) I've been noticing this as I've been going through what we have, and I have to agree wholeheartedly.. a lot of the stuff isn't relevant (IMO, at least) to the 'average joe' type user which the handbook is meant to cater to. > Other topics for a developer's handbook would be "Writing KLDs", "Writing > device drivers", "Writing syscons screensavers", ... > > Probably a structure akin to: > > Introduction > Architectural Overview > The Kernel > The VM System > IPv4 > IPv6/IPsec > [...] > Kernel Loadable [ er, what does the 'd' in 'kld' stand for? ] > Syscons > > We might be able to pull in chapters 21 ("Adding new Kernel Configuration > Options") and 22 ("Kernel Debugging") as well. 21 isn't really needed in > a user-level document, although I can see a case for keeping 22 in the > main Handbook. Again this all sounds great. Here's some info on what I plan to do to get this thing to the printers. Since the handbook is an ever-changing document, I basically plan to take a 'snapshot' it as is (or as is in a day or two) and put it up elsewhere for the reviewers. This'll make it much easier as far as fixing errors and reviewing go.. I won't be trying to hit a moving target. Since everyone who's replied to you seems to be in agreement that this is a good thing, when I do the above, I'll cut out the more 'advanced' bits. It'll also give us additional books to publish down the road sometime if we want to :-) > FWIW, IMHO Chapter 4.4 ("Making a port yourself") can be ripped out > of the Handbook and in to its own "Porters Handbook"). It's a huge > amount of text, most of which isn't useful to a 'normal' FreeBSD user. Sounds good. > The "Contributing to FreeBSD" chapter can then point people at these > documents ("Hackers Handbook", "Porters Handbook", "FDP Primer") > depending on what potential contributors want to do. This sounds good too. > Thoughts? I say we do it. Let me know what I can do to help you get this done. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 4:36:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FC737BC35; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA34123; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:36:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004051136.EAA34123@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asmodai@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pending/17616: Re: f77 man page needs updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Re: f77 man page needs updated Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: asmodai Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 5 04:35:32 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Belongs to doc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 6:41:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7121F37B9C1; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA91795; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004051341.GAA91795@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wdr@tdl.com, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nbm@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/15661: Handbook doesn't properly document booting other kernels Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook doesn't properly document booting other kernels State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 5 06:38:10 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Is the documentation still not sufficient? I added to http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/boot-loader.html a while back, and I consider it sufficient. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nbm Responsible-Changed-By: nbm Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 5 06:38:10 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll deal with this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 6:56:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49B837B50B; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA13598; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004051356.GAA13598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17745: wrong environment variable in manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong environment variable in manpage Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 5 06:55:38 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one, since I feel bad about not having fixed it the first time I noticed it. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 7:11:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FBB37B57A; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nbm@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA15698; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004051411.HAA15698@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jburkhol@home.com, nbm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17809: change email address in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: change email address in handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nbm State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 5 07:11:13 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: email address changed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 8:41:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sv01.geocities.co.jp (sv01.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C013637BDDD; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 08:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@geocities.co.jp) Received: from mail.geocities.co.jp (mail.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.137]) by sv01.geocities.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id VAA19090; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:53:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.hrs.jp (sutnmax2-ppp02.ed.noda.sut.ac.jp [133.31.173.72]) by mail.geocities.co.jp (1.3G-GeocitiesJ-3.3) with ESMTP id AAA01048; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:41:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200004051541.AAA01048@mail.geocities.co.jp> Received: from localhost (alph.hrs.jp [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrs.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id AAA88010; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:17:57 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@hrs.jp) To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: phantom@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: the number of entries in www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:17:55 +0900 From: Hiroki Sato X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 78 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've found that "www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml" has the numbers of "commercial", "personal", "non-profit" and "total" gallery entries and they have seemed to be written by hand, but I think it is reasonable that they should be generated automatically from "gallery.db". In addition, the file gallery.sgml has very long line, so it will be difficult for the translation teams to recognize the deltas between two revisions when they try to merge from the English version. I don't know if the following way is appropriate, but I think it is better than old one. Try to apply the accompanying patch and build "www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml". This will generate "gallery.inc" from "gallery.db" with "prune.pl", and add the numbers into "gallery.sgml". Would you please put it or something like this live if there is no problem? This at least makes the Japanese translation team happy. -- | Hiroki Sato/HRS | | j7397067@ed.noda.sut.ac.jp(univ) | hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org(FreeBSD doc-jp Project) Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/gallery/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -r1.7 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/09/06 07:02:43 1.7 +++ Makefile 2000/04/02 07:44:51 @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ INDEXLINK= gallery.html -CLEANFILES+= cgallery.inc npgallery.inc pgallery.inc +CLEANFILES+= cgallery.inc npgallery.inc pgallery.inc gallery.inc cgallery.html: cgallery.sgml cgallery.inc cgallery.inc: gallery.db gengallery.pl @@ -24,6 +24,12 @@ pgallery.html: pgallery.sgml pgallery.inc pgallery.inc: gallery.db gengallery.pl perl ./gengallery.pl personal gallery.db > pgallery.inc + +gallery.html: gallery.sgml gallery.inc +gallery.inc: gallery.db gallery.sgml + perl ./prune.pl gallery.db /dev/null | \ + perl -ne 'chomp; m/([-\w]+):\s+(\d+)/ and print qq/\n/'\ + > gallery.inc .include "../web.mk" Index: gallery.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/gallery/gallery.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.49 diff -d -u -I\$FreeBSD:.*\$ -I\$Id:.*\$ -r1.49 gallery.sgml --- gallery.sgml 2000/04/01 10:43:54 1.49 +++ gallery.sgml 2000/04/02 07:44:13 @@ -3,13 +3,14 @@ %includes; + %gallery; ]> &header; -

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 17:49:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B7437BA32 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA99092 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:14:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:14:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" Message-ID: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -doc, There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" (and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. Unless there are any objections, I'll do this in about 36-48 hours. If you think there's a problem with this, please reply to this message. Don't worry if you haven't got time to put together a detailed response, a simple "I want to talk about this some more, please wait" will do fine, we can pick it up again when you've got more time. Otherwise, as I say, I'll do it soon. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 17:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5062737BDF5 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA78670; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:26:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:26:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kenny Drobnack Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-4.0 and Parallel Port Zip 100 Drive Message-ID: <20000405222600.A78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu on Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 12:41:02AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 12:41:02AM -0400, Kenny Drobnack wrote: > Not sure where to send this. This list seems like about the best place. > It seems to be that Parallel Port 100 Zip Drives don't work in > FreeBSD4.0-RELEASE (also tried -STABLE, with no difference). I'm thinking > this should be added to the ERRATA for the 4.0 series. Along with how to > fix this problem, when a fix is found. > Note: I tried a SCSI Zip 100, and it worked great. Anyway, I'm > not subscribed to this list, so cc me any replies. Thanks. Can you get this confirmed with the -stable mailing list, just to confirm it's not a problem with your setup? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 17:52:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B1A37B9FB; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:52:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA98763; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:12:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:12:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jim Mock Cc: Nik Clayton , Michael Chin-yuan Wu , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review Message-ID: <20000406011218.B78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000404233511.B486@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000404233511.B486@luna.cdrom.com>; from jim@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:35:11PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll deal with the other stuff in a separate message. On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 11:35:11PM -0700, Jim Mock wrote: > > We might be able to pull in chapters 21 ("Adding new Kernel Configuration > > Options") and 22 ("Kernel Debugging") as well. 21 isn't really needed in > > a user-level document, although I can see a case for keeping 22 in the > > main Handbook. > > Again this all sounds great. Here's some info on what I plan to do to > get this thing to the printers. Since the handbook is an ever-changing > document, I basically plan to take a 'snapshot' it as is (or as is in a > day or two) and put it up elsewhere for the reviewers. This'll make it > much easier as far as fixing errors and reviewing go.. I won't be trying > to hit a moving target. Since everyone who's replied to you seems to be > in agreement that this is a good thing, when I do the above, I'll cut > out the more 'advanced' bits. It'll also give us additional books to > publish down the road sometime if we want to :-) [ What's that quote about foolish consistency and small minds? ] For this, I think we might be able to get away with a branch. But only of doc/en*/books/handbook. Then you can make any changes you want on the branch. You control what goes on the branch, including merging any additions made to the main tree. You also get the hat that says "I will merge in any typo/grammer/ wording fixes made on this branch back to the main trunk as soon as possible". N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 19: 6:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ikhala.tcimet.net (ikhala.tcimet.net [198.109.166.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4E237B7C5; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by ikhala.tcimet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA86685; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:40:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:40:08 -0400 From: bush doctor To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" Message-ID: <20000405224008.C86568@ikhala.tcimet.net> References: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 01:14:57AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Out of da blue Nik Clayton aka (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) said: > -doc, > > There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that > breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" > (and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. It sounds like a good thing to me ;-) > > Unless there are any objections, I'll do this in about 36-48 hours. > > If you think there's a problem with this, please reply to this message. > Don't worry if you haven't got time to put together a detailed response, > a simple "I want to talk about this some more, please wait" will do fine, > we can pick it up again when you've got more time. Will these sections still be in the handboo? If not I take it they'll be a pointer to the appropriate handbook. > > Otherwise, as I say, I'll do it soon. Sounds great! > > N > -- > Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. > Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, > hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. > Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. > -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery > #;^0 -- So ya want ta hear da roots? bush doctor Of course I run FreeBSD!! http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 20:10:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F3337BFAB; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:10:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com (07-202.dial.008.popsite.net [209.69.77.202]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA07802; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C558E1A28; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:09:33 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" Message-ID: <20000405230933.G28703@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 01:14:57AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 01:14:57AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that > breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" > (and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. Please do this. I highly support the latter part. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 20:24:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from inetmail.att.net (mailhost1.inetmail.att.net [204.127.132.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166737B618 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:24:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from h.soechting@inetmail.att.net) Received: from chipsmart ([12.74.12.223]) by inetmail.att.net (mtiagic01) with SMTP id <20000406032428gi114315u8e>; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 03:24:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000701bf9f77$80420c40$df0c4a0c@chipsmart> From: "Henry Soechting" To: Subject: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:37:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is FreeBSD available in Spanish? Luis R. Ramos, MD, lalberto@sat.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 20:45:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7368D37B81D; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 20:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06645; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:45:35 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:45:34 +0900 Message-ID: <86bt3n7uzl.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" In-Reply-To: In your message of "6 Apr 2000 00:53:26 GMT" <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.0 (Overjoyed) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 6 Apr 2000 00:53:26 GMT, Nik Clayton wrote: > There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that > breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" > (and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. I don't have any objection about creating a "Developpers' Handbook", but if you are planning to move some contents in the current Handbook into new one, please consider to ease translators' work. As usually, please separate content change and structural change. -- Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 5 21: 4:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE81937BDD3 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 14864 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2000 04:03:59 -0000 Received: from du13.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.13) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2000 04:03:59 -0000 Message-ID: <38EC0C87.20FFC9B9@mail.ptd.net> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:03:19 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jim Mock , Michael Chin-yuan Wu , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: FreeBSD Internals- Request for Review References: <20000404181923.A64168@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20000404233511.B486@luna.cdrom.com> <20000406011218.B78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > [ What's that quote about foolish consistency and small minds? ] > A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. From Emerson's essay, "Self Reliance". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 1:51: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.surf1.de (mail.Surf1.de [194.25.165.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE6137BEE1 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.com (pC19F545A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [193.159.84.90]) by mail.surf1.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10488; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:50:51 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B526DAC2C; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16389; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:50:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:50:52 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Henry Soechting Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20000406105052.D627@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <000701bf9f77$80420c40$df0c4a0c@chipsmart> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000701bf9f77$80420c40$df0c4a0c@chipsmart>; from h.soechting@inetmail.att.net on Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 09:37:28PM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Henry Soechting (h.soechting@inetmail.att.net): > Is FreeBSD available in Spanish? Luis R. Ramos, MD, lalberto@sat.net No. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 2:41:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5FD37BB68 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA64011 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Message-ID: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, [ sent to -doc, where it's on topic. Sent to -stable, where there's been much discussion of the docs recently. If anyone's got any energy left from that they could usefully expend it on this. Sent to -hackers, where the last chunk about XML is on topic, and will probably get me lynched. . . Follow-ups *not* set, as depending on which bits you reply to might make it more appropriate for one list or another. ] If anyone's looking for a relatively simple, but quite involving task. . . Update section 2.3 of the Handbook, "Supported Hardware". In particular, for each piece of hardware I'd like to know * The name of the hardware (which we already have, pretty much) * The category ("Disk Controller", "NIC", "USB", "ISDN", "Serial", "Mice", "Scanners", Other. . .) * The name of the driver/kernel config entry it's associated with * A URL for a page on the manufacturer's website that describes the product (if it exists). * Other URLs of interest (for example, if someone else has a page up that explains how to use this device with FreeBSD). * Assorted notes about the product What would be particularly useful is if we can get this information in a queryable form (XML, rah rah rah). We could then * Convert it to DocBook for inclusion in the Handbook * Build something much like the BSDI's website "Supported Hardware" section, where you can search for your hardware, and it gives you back lots of info about the device. [ OK, I'm pushing the boat out big time on this one, and it'll probably get shot down, but what the hell ] * Use this as *documentation in the source tree* to build chunks of the LINT config file. Imagine, for example, src/sys/pci/DRIVERS.xml, which looked something like (and I'm doodling on the back of an envelope at the moment) pci NIC fxp EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 chipsets. [ ... ] LINT would then become some boiler plate text for things we don't want to describe this way, plus the output of a process which takes the above and turns it into a config(8) style file. When you add a new driver, update the .xml file(s) as necessary. Next time LINT is built it contains the appropriate text, next time the Handbook is built it lists the device as supported. . . Thoughts? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 2:41:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4719F37BEEC; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA63244; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:50:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:50:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" Message-ID: <20000406095022.A62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <86bt3n7uzl.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <86bt3n7uzl.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:45:34PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 12:45:34PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At 6 Apr 2000 00:53:26 GMT, > Nik Clayton wrote: > > There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that > > breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" > > (and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. > > I don't have any objection about creating a "Developpers' Handbook", > but if you are planning to move some contents in the current Handbook > into new one, please consider to ease translators' work. > > As usually, please separate content change and structural change. Absolutely. I'll either write out instructions explaining what I did ("The first paragraph in the text is new, and will need to be translated. The remaining paragraphs are copied verbatim from foo/bar/chapter.sgml") or do it piecemeal, depending on how easy it is to describe what was done. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 6:11: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sv01.geocities.co.jp (sv01.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A7537C1F2; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hrs@geocities.co.jp) Received: from mail.geocities.co.jp (mail.geocities.co.jp [210.153.89.137]) by sv01.geocities.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id TAA28253; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:23:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.hrs.jp (sutkmax2-ppp14.ed.kagu.sut.ac.jp [133.31.177.80]) by mail.geocities.co.jp (1.3G-GeocitiesJ-3.3) with ESMTP id WAA28448; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:11:02 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200004061311.WAA28448@mail.geocities.co.jp> Received: from localhost (alph.hrs.jp [192.168.0.10]) by mail.hrs.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/DomainMaster) with ESMTP id VAA89696; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 21:25:26 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hrs@hrs.jp) To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . In-Reply-To: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:25:25 +0900 From: Hiroki Sato X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 20 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote in <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>: > If anyone's looking for a relatively simple, but quite involving task. . . (snip) > When you add a new driver, update the .xml file(s) as necessary. Next > time LINT is built it contains the appropriate text, next time the > Handbook is built it lists the device as supported. . . > > Thoughts? This sounds good, but is it possible for translators to keep up with these .xml files? If these files involves a section of the handbook, we need to translate them. -- | Hiroki Sato/HRS | | j7397067@ed.noda.sut.ac.jp(univ) | hrs@jp.FreeBSD.org(FreeBSD doc-jp Project) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 6:44:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC8D337B714 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 06:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 20288 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2000 13:44:23 -0000 Received: from du81.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.81) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 6 Apr 2000 13:44:23 -0000 Message-ID: <38EC948E.869B5591@mail.ptd.net> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:43:42 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > > NIC > fxp > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > chipsets. > How about something like: NIC fxp EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 chipsets. EtherExpress Pro/10 EtherExpress Pro/100B [ etc. ] I would think this would make it easier to search for a particular piece of hardware and to create lists of supported hardware. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 7: 0:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from xmh01.scott.af.mil (vejxoislxmh01.scott.af.mil [140.175.214.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AE737C2FA for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DARYL.CHANCE@SCOTT.AF.MIL) Received: from cornerback.scott.af.mil (cornerback.scott.af.mil [140.175.214.11]) by xmh01.scott.af.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24475 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:04:09 -0500 Received: from cornerback.scott.af.mil (root@localhost) by cornerback.scott.af.mil with ESMTP id IAA00997 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:59:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTP (vejxoisntav82.scott.af.mil [140.175.254.102]) by cornerback.scott.af.mil with SMTP id IAA00828 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:59:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ksvejx02.SCOTT.AF.MIL ([140.175.192.102]) by 140.175.254.102 (Norton AntiVirus for Internet Email Gateways 1.0) ; Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:59:39 0000 (GMT) Received: by ksvejx02.scott.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chance Daryl SrA AMC CSS/SAS To: "'FreeBSD Doc'" Subject: RE: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:57:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org since this is going to be searchable for newbies too, how about a keyword block? Netgear 310X or Cardinal Connecta Hayes 3440 this way, if it's referred to as differnt names (can't exactly come up with a really good one atm) then it's findable...the keywords would be what the search engine would look through. actually, heres a good one: Ensoniq SoundBlaster Sound Blaster Creative Labs Thoughts? I just started following this mailing lists a couple days ago, so I'm still relatively new to it. <---------------------------------------------------------------> <- SrA Daryl Chance - A programmer is someone who solves a -> <- USAF AMC CSS/SASR - problem you didn't know you had in a -> <- RAD Programmer - way you don't understand. -> <- (618) 256-5225 - - ????? -> <---------------------------------------------------------------> > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas M. Sommers [mailto:tms2@mail.ptd.net] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:44 AM > To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . > > > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > > NIC > > fxp > > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ > Fast Ethernet > > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > > chipsets. > > > > How about something like: > > > NIC > fxp > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > chipsets. > EtherExpress Pro/10 > EtherExpress Pro/100B > [ etc. ] > > > I would think this would make it easier to search for a > particular piece > of hardware and to create lists of supported hardware. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 8:12:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA97837B505; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08166; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:52:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:52:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Hiroki Sato Cc: nik@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Message-ID: <20000406155200.A7865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200004061311.WAA28448@mail.geocities.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004061311.WAA28448@mail.geocities.co.jp>; from hrs@geocities.co.jp on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:25:25PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:25:25PM +0900, Hiroki Sato wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote > in <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>: > > > If anyone's looking for a relatively simple, but quite involving task. . . > (snip) > > When you add a new driver, update the .xml file(s) as necessary. Next > > time LINT is built it contains the appropriate text, next time the > > Handbook is built it lists the device as supported. . . > > > > Thoughts? > > This sounds good, but is it possible for translators to keep up > with these .xml files? If these files involves a section of > the handbook, we need to translate them. Good point. We can add attributes to certain elements, specifying the language and encoding: ... ... and so on. That's one way, I'm sure there are others. Any suggestions? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 8:13: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6432637B973; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08462; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:54:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:54:24 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: doc@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Message-ID: <20000406155424.B7865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <38EC948E.869B5591@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <38EC948E.869B5591@mail.ptd.net>; from tms2@mail.ptd.net on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:43:42AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cc'd to JKH -- I think he reads -doc, but I want to make sure he sees this ] On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:43:42AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > > NIC > > fxp > > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > > chipsets. > > > > How about something like: > > > NIC > fxp > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > chipsets. > EtherExpress Pro/10 > EtherExpress Pro/100B > [ etc. ] > > > I would think this would make it easier to search for a particular piece > of hardware and to create lists of supported hardware. Yeah, that could work. Jordan, with the WC/BSDI merger, do we have access to the backend for the BSDI website? Any chance we could get a look at the tools/implementation they have for their list of supported hardware? Failing that, who's the point man for their documentation efforts? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 8:51:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B808B37B7B7 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id IAA16614 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:51:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id IAA07942 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:50:25 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id LAA01036; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:51:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14572.45703.348193.215985@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:51:35 -0700 (MST) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . In-Reply-To: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ On Thursday, April 6, Nik Clayton wrote: ] > > * The name of the hardware (which we already have, pretty much) > > * The category ("Disk Controller", "NIC", "USB", "ISDN", "Serial", > "Mice", "Scanners", Other. . .) > > > pci > > > NIC > fxp > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > chipsets. > > FANTASTIC idea! As a suggestion, we should have some sort of category stating which versions of FreeBSD are known to work with piece of hardware XYZ. This would then allow somebody to make the query "if I buy HoozieWutzit XP4, will it work with FreeBSD 4.1?" and receive an answer. I could probably donate some time to gathering information for one of the above categories (or something on the "Other" branch--seems to me with all the integrated chipset/peripheral solutions coming out these days, a natural question is "does FreeBSD work with this motherboard and if so, what pieces of it, etc." ...). I know nothing of XML but can learn and can at least gather stuff in ASCII files ;-). This is a great idea .... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 9:57: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDB437C088 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15266; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:56:48 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Message-ID: <20000406095648.B10876@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <38EC948E.869B5591@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <38EC948E.869B5591@mail.ptd.net>; from tms2@mail.ptd.net on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:43:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 09:43:42AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > > NIC > > fxp > > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > > chipsets. > > > > How about something like: > > > NIC > fxp > EtherExpress Pro/10, Pro/100B, Pro/100+ Fast Ethernet > adapters, based on the Intel i82557 or i82559 > chipsets. > EtherExpress Pro/10 > EtherExpress Pro/100B > [ etc. ] > > > I would think this would make it easier to search for a particular piece > of hardware and to create lists of supported hardware. Something like this is definatly needed for devices with PCCARD attachments. I counted 37 ed entries in /etc/default/pccard.conf and 8 ep entries. Another thing to consider might be some way of saying, "XXX and YYY, but not YYYb." That's actually happened to the vx driver. It works with a couple models of the 3C905, but the 3C905b removed the backwords compatability layer used by vx, causing Bill Paul to have to write the xl driver. One other issue with the initial set of tags. Some devices already have multiple bus attachments (vx) for instance. More will just as soon as we get card bus support as a number of PCI chipsets have cardbus variants including fxp and at least one of the Adaptech scsi controlers. All in all, I like the idea though it would definatly need a webbased submission system. The sheer number of NE2000 clones alone would swamp us otherwise. ;-) -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. 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FreeBSD for life ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 11:45:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bea.hi-ho.ne.jp (bea.hi-ho.ne.jp [202.224.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ACA37B971 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:45:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hachiro@bea.hi-ho.ne.jp) Received: from [210.139.192.6] (p8bc006.sndijk01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.192.6]) by bea.hi-ho.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2:Pana) with ESMTP id DAA24750 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:45:13 +0900 (JST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 03:39:29 +0900 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: hachiro yotsumoto Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPWkkYSReJDckRiEiPWk/NDxUJEckOSEjGyhC?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1257076119==_ma============" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --============_-1257076119==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Shift_JIS" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit AbsdSlijB personal UNIXt^CD ROMFREE BSD 3.4RELEASEm[gPCCXg[ B CD ROMu[gACXg[[]ACXg[IB J[l\zATB # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL BA # B A # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNELA config: MYKERNEL:No such file or directoryB MYKERNELt@CAB H B lB --============_-1257076119==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="Shift_JIS" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit AbsdSlijB personal UNIXt^CD ROMFREE BSD 3.4RELEASEm[gPCCXg[B CD ROMu[gACXg[[]ACXg[IB J[l\zATB Osaka| # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL BA # B A # /usr/sbin/config MYKERNELA config: MYKERNEL:No such file or directoryB MYKERNELt@CAB H B lB --============_-1257076119==_ma============-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 18:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A60A37B9D0 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA10066; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from herschel.bricoworks.com (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-446.oz.net [216.39.145.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77C037B654 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moore@bricoworks.com) Received: from ariel.bricoworks.com (ariel [192.168.1.37]) by herschel.bricoworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA56270 for ; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moore@bricoworks.com) Received: (from moore@localhost) by ariel.bricoworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10726; Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moore@bricoworks.com) Message-Id: <200004060640.XAA10726@ariel.bricoworks.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Moore Reply-To: moore@bricoworks.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17836: manpage for sigaction(2) is wrong Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17836 >Category: docs >Synopsis: manpage for sigaction(2) is wrong >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 6 18:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tim Moore >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Bricoworks >Environment: >Description: The description of the third argument to signal handlers if SA_SIGINFO is supplied is wrong. It's a ucontext_t, not an mcontext_t. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: sigaction.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/src/lib/libc/sys/sigaction.2,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -c -r1.21 sigaction.2 *** sigaction.2 1999/12/15 16:51:35 1.21 --- sigaction.2 2000/04/06 06:39:20 *************** *** 496,502 **** The .Fa context argument to a POSIX SA_SIGINFO handler points to an instance of ! mcontext_t. .Sh ERRORS .Fn Sigaction will fail and no new signal handler will be installed if one --- 496,502 ---- The .Fa context argument to a POSIX SA_SIGINFO handler points to an instance of ! ucontext_t. .Sh ERRORS .Fn Sigaction will fail and no new signal handler will be installed if one >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 20:42:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF9D37BD44 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip228.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.228]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02616 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rod.darktech.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7E2FD60; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:41:11 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: rewrite of "cutting-edge" handbook chapter Message-ID: <20000406234111.B34980@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all- As promised, I have rewritten and organized many parts of the cutting edge chapter of the FreeBSD handbook. Patches are attached; because I changed a couple of section ids, introduction/chapter.sgml must also be patched. Just a couple of comments I have: * Style? I don't know if my indenting is correct, I just had emacs do it for me. * Tags. Although the handbook builds with my changes, which means my tags are syntatically correct, I don't know if they're figuratively correct. Since I'm very unfamiliar with DocBook, if anyone wants to check for tag accuracy, it would be appreciated. * I removed a lot of cruft about versions of FreeBSD prior to 3.X. Personally, I think this is bitrot and should be removed, but I don't know if others would agree... * I strongly recommended that new users upgrade (or stay up to date) via binary snapshots. This is my personal opinion; does anyone disagree? And of course, any comments you have in general about the document would be helpful. 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hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450FE37BF8F for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com ([209.69.76.149]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA37097; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8BF1A1A31; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 01:08:06 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: Eric Ogren Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rewrite of "cutting-edge" handbook chapter Message-ID: <20000407010806.C94924@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <20000406234111.B34980@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000406234111.B34980@earthlink.net>; from eogren@earthlink.net on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 11:41:11PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 11:41:11PM -0400, Eric Ogren wrote: > As promised, I have rewritten and organized many parts of the cutting > edge chapter of the FreeBSD handbook. Patches are attached; because I > changed a couple of section ids, introduction/chapter.sgml must also be > patched. Thanks!! I didn't look at this, but from the size of the attachment, it looks like you did a lot of work. :-) -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 6 22:46:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFD137BDD8; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20290; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:46:49 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kuriyama@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:46:48 +0900 Message-ID: <864s9efoon.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Newsgroups: freebsd.doc In-Reply-To: In your message of "6 Apr 2000 15:18:02 GMT" <20000406155200.A7865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000406095633.B62492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <200004061311.WAA28448@mail.geocities.co.jp> <20000406155200.A7865@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.0 (Overjoyed) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 9) (Canyonlands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 6 Apr 2000 15:18:02 GMT, Nik Clayton wrote: > We can add attributes to certain elements, specifying > the language and encoding: > > ... > > ... > > and so on. That's one way, I'm sure there are others. Any suggestions? It may not work. If we have some encodings in one file, editors cannot recognize the encoding of that file. I think this file should be stored separately in language specific directory like as other Doc Team's contents. -- Jun Kuriyama // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 0: 3:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from teru.dyndns.org (c1051739-a.almda1.sfba.home.com [24.16.60.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984C537C233 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:03:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shade@dnai.com) Received: from dnai.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by teru.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00475 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 00:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shade@dnai.com) Message-ID: <38ED883D.CDC8F922@dnai.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 00:03:25 -0700 From: Adam Kranzel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Task for -doc newbie / XML'ing LINT. . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I like the idea, and I would be happy to help in some way, though I don't know what I could do. I don't know XML, but would be happy to either try to learn it, or supply text files for someone to convert to XML. Once it's decided what steps need to be done, I will be happy to contribute in some way. -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 5:30: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C41B37B7BF for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 05:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dXta-00036g-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:54 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200." <70943.954759186@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:29:54 +0200 Message-ID: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I'm in communication with the editor of the 4.4BSD book (McKusick et al) > about the possibility of publishing chapter 2 (Design Overview) as part > of the FreeBSD online handbook. Right, we have go-ahead from Addison-Wesley to incorporate the chapter into our www distro, provided that mirrors do not mess with the blurb that describes that the text is "excerpted with permission". Also, this is with the understanding that the www distro is _not_ distributed on CDROM. The original idea of incorporating this into the Handbook is obviously not appropriate, since the handbook is dsitrbuted on CDROM. Addison-Wesley would like a list of our .freebsd.org www mirrors. Where can I find such a thing? :-) I have the troff sources for the chapter from Kirk, and am busy familiarizing myself with DocBook so that I can transcribe the text into the sgml form that we'll need it in. Ciao, Sheldon. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BFA0BD.C60D80A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 8: 4:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF53637B5A3 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:04:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@bird.cris.net) Received: from bird.cris.net (bird.cris.net [212.110.128.67]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA93317; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:04:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by bird.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21407; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:03:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:03:54 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200004071503.SAA21407@bird.cris.net> From: Alexey Zelkin To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book X-Newsgroups: lucky.freebsd.doc In-Reply-To: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> User-Agent: tin/1.4.1-19991201 ("Polish") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.0-STABLE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Addison-Wesley would like a list of our .freebsd.org www mirrors. Where > can I find such a thing? :-) File: www/en/index.sgml. Menu in upper left corner of the page contains list of official FreeBSD www mirrors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 8:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AC737B581 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05560; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:41:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004071541.LAA05560@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:41:59 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Apr-00 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > >> I'm in communication with the editor of the 4.4BSD book (McKusick et al) >> about the possibility of publishing chapter 2 (Design Overview) as part >> of the FreeBSD online handbook. > > Right, we have go-ahead from Addison-Wesley to incorporate the chapter > into our www distro, provided that mirrors do not mess with the blurb > that describes that the text is "excerpted with permission". Also, this > is with the understanding that the www distro is _not_ distributed on > CDROM. Hmm, currently we put out the entire CVS repo on the CD's, including the www distro. > The original idea of incorporating this into the Handbook is obviously > not appropriate, since the handbook is dsitrbuted on CDROM. > > Addison-Wesley would like a list of our .freebsd.org www mirrors. Where > can I find such a thing? :-) > > I have the troff sources for the chapter from Kirk, and am busy > familiarizing myself with DocBook so that I can transcribe the text into > the sgml form that we'll need it in. > > Ciao, > Sheldon. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 8:43: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FC337BE95; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:43:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12dauQ-0003ji-00; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:42:58 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:41:59 -0400." <200004071541.LAA05560@server.baldwin.cx> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:42:58 +0200 Message-ID: <14365.955122178@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:41:59 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Hmm, currently we put out the entire CVS repo on the CD's, including the > www distro. Damn. I asked Jordan whether we put the www distro on the CD's and he said no. I guess I was asking the wrong question. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 8:47:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rock.ghis.net (rock.ghis.net [209.222.164.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E142937BE3E; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from argon.blackdawn.com ([209.69.76.149]) by rock.ghis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA46269; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by argon.blackdawn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ECF041A31; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:47:08 -0400 From: Will Andrews To: John Baldwin Cc: Sheldon Hearn , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book Message-ID: <20000407114708.D78181@argon.blackdawn.com> References: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> <200004071541.LAA05560@server.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200004071541.LAA05560@server.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:41:59AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:41:59AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Hmm, currently we put out the entire CVS repo on the CD's, including the > www distro. No, we don't. My 4.0 and 3.4 CD sets did not have a CD#2 with a copy of the repository. The last time I remember a repo being included was 3.2 (in fact, I just checked my FreeBSD CD archive here). :-) -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 9:39:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6F137BDBA for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.10.0.Beta11/8.10.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id e37GdSq82478 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004071639.e37GdSq82478@orthanc.ab.ca> From: Lyndon Nerenberg To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Update to http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources-web.html Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:39:28 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In http://www3.ca.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources-web.html the entry for Canada/2 should be changed to www2.ca.freebsd.org. Thanks, --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 10:42:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C0137B9A8 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05658; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 13:22:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200004071722.NAA05658@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20000407114708.D78181@argon.blackdawn.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 13:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Will Andrews Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Apr-00 Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:41:59AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> Hmm, currently we put out the entire CVS repo on the CD's, including the >> www distro. > > No, we don't. My 4.0 and 3.4 CD sets did not have a CD#2 with a copy of the > repository. The last time I remember a repo being included was 3.2 (in > fact, I just checked my FreeBSD CD archive here). :-) Ack! Yep. The web pages were on the 3.3 CD's but not 3.4 as well. I don't have my 4.0 CD's yet. /me kicks VT's incredibly slow snail mail. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 10:48:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CC337B586 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from uta003594 (uta003594.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.211.36]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA48042 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <033301bfa0b9$e221c0c0$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Sean Kelly" To: Subject: XML'ifying device driver docs Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:51:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using XML to leverage "free" documentation out of developers is a snazzy idea. And developers can learn XML is almost no time. But what about processing tools? Some of the best XML utilities I've used are all in Java. I haven't played around at all with xerces-C, yet, though (see http://xml.apache.org/ for more information). Anyone else? Take care. --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 12:45:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAB737BABF; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:45:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06745; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:46:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: John Baldwin , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:42:58 +0200." <14365.955122178@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 12:46:23 -0700 Message-ID: <6741.955136783@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, I've also been running out of room to put the CVS repository on there and didn't manage to do so for 4.0-RELEASE. - Jordan > > > On Fri, 07 Apr 2000 11:41:59 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Hmm, currently we put out the entire CVS repo on the CD's, including the > > www distro. > > Damn. I asked Jordan whether we put the www distro on the CD's and he > said no. I guess I was asking the wrong question. > > Ciao, > Sheldon. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 14:10:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (CBL-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.114.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BA937B5DB for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Received: from uta003594 (uta003594.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.211.36]) by cbl-skelly3.hs.earthlink.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA48295 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kelly@ad1440.net) Message-ID: <03a701bfa0d6$27d13210$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> From: "Sean Kelly" To: Subject: XML'ifying again Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:13:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One other quickie: is your plan to use XSLT to convert the device driver markup to Docbook for inclusion in the handbook and/or FAQs? Are you folks considering moving to Docbook XML? Curiously, --Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 15: 8:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from luna.cdrom.com (luna.cdrom.com [204.216.28.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8F937C36A for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:07:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@luna.cdrom.com) Received: by luna.cdrom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C261B15A; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:05:54 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: josh@pike.cdrom.com, lss@2ez.com, rab@pike.cdrom.com, gsutter@cdrom.com Message-ID: <20000407150554.A2650@luna.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.1.11i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org gsutter@cdrom.com Bcc: Subject: Handbook for Review Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org I've got a copy of the handbook (which will eventually go to the printers) ready to be reviewed. There are already some people reviewing parts of it.. here's what's being looked over.. Josh Bello - Ch. 5 Loreanne Smith - Ch. 1, 3 Bob Bruce - ??? Greg Sutter - ??? This is what I know about so far. Please let me know what you are looking over or have already looked over. If I have you down for something that's incorrect, please let me know. Loreanne has already sent me fixes for Chapters 1 & 3, which I committed the other day. She plans on looking over additional chapters, but I'm not sure which yet. I committed Josh's patches to Chapter 5 earlier this afternoon, and he's about to start on Chapter 6. We'd like to have *at least* two sets of eyes going over each chapter, so keep that in mind. It's available at http://morpheus.cdrom.com/~jim/ for those who are interested. Again, if you plan on reviewing parts of it, *please* let me know what they are so I can keep track of things. - jim -- - jim mock - walnut creek cdrom/freebsd test labs - jim@luna.cdrom.com - - phone: 1.925.691.2800 x.3814 - fax: 1.925.674.0821 - jim@FreeBSD.org - - editor - The FreeBSDzine - www.freebsdzine.org - jim@freebsdzine.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 16:26:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bespin.dhs.org (bespin.dhs.org [206.63.100.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B023D37BE99 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:25:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dem@tunes.org) Received: from localhost (dem@localhost) by bespin.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id QAA30356 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:25:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tril X-Sender: dem@bespin.dhs.org To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/openssl.html Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This page says that you can download the rsaref-2.0 package or install the rsaref port in the security directory. I don't know about the ports directory but there is NO rsaref-2.0 package except for alpha on the ftp mirror. Please put rsaref on the page or change the above URL. -- David Manifold http://bespin.dhs.org/~dem/ This message is placed in the public domain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 17:16:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nostromo.americanfreeway.com (americanfreeway.com [208.184.109.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A6C37C2C6 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbhushan@smartshop.com) Received: from smartshop.com (Dyno-131.americanfreeway.com [10.1.1.131]) by nostromo.americanfreeway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA52570; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbhushan@smartshop.com) Message-ID: <38EE79F9.4C9AF506@smartshop.com> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 17:14:49 -0700 From: Suresh Bhushan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: surbush@hotmail.com Subject: Answer to the point Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sir Doc, This answer is 'beating around the bush'. I had to get the exact anser from deja.com. Please update this. In http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/misc.html#AEN3837, the question is : -------------------------------------- >Q: Why won't chmod change the permissions on symlinks? > >A: You have to use either ``-H'' or ``-L'' together with the ``-R'' option to >make this work. See the chmod and symlink man pages for more info. Man page for chmod gives -H If the -R option is specified, symbolic links on the command line are followed. (Symbolic links encountered in the tree traversal are not followed.) -L If the -R option is specified, all symbolic links are followed. hey, question is not for recursion or for follow-links. >WARNING the ``-R'' option does a RECURSIVE chmod. Be careful about specifying >directories or symlinks to >directories to chmod. If you want to change the permissions of a directory >referenced by a symlink, use chmod >without any options and follow the symlink with a trailing slash (``/''). For >example, if ``foo'' is a symlink to directory >``bar'', and you want to change the permissions of ``foo'' (actually ``bar''), >you would do something like: > chmod 555 foo/ Once again, hey, question is about change of permissions of 'foo' not 'bar'!!! Why can't this be simply be written as "not possible" as "system call cannot change their permissions. This is not a problem since the permissions of symbolic links are never used." >With the trailing slash, chmod will follow the symlink, ``foo'', to change the >permissions of the directory, ``bar''. ---------------- Doc, ANWSER TO THE POINT. -Suresh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 20: 4:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f82.hotmail.com [216.32.181.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DAE237C22A for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwkohout@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 14065 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2000 03:04:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000408030437.14064.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 152.65.165.125 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:04:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [152.65.165.125] From: "mike kohout" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: suggestion for handbook... Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:04:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A nice thing that should be added on the Tutorial would be a statement on how to change shells(what nice user programs, as well as the config files we can edit by hand)-the most appropriate place would most likely be section 3.4, where the different shells are discussed. thanks mike kohout ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 7 22:20:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6940337C40B for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA35718; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7495637B799 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip253.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.253]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15144 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rod.darktech.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A84CE1F2; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20000408051904.A84CE1F2@rod.darktech.org> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:19:04 -0400 (EDT) From: eogren@earthlink.net Reply-To: eogren@earthlink.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17855: Update of PPP Primer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17855 >Category: docs >Synopsis: PPP Primer is out-of-date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Apr 7 22:20:02 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Ogren >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD rod.darktech.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Tue Apr 4 21:01:56 EDT 2000 eogren@rod.darktech.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUE i386 >Description: The PPP Primer was fairly out of date; the DNS examples referenced bind 4.x, the -alias option was used instead of NAT, as well as various other minor things that needed to be updated. In addition, there was a lot of weird capitalization, and very little DocBook tags (I assume because this was DocBook'ized before the FBSD extensions). 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M]>HT(CS9T2Y;Q@=3MEAP!3TNR3K+6>$Q*TH>*VJ0KS\9C.']LH)P5+Q,P+X# M\D():!O8I[)G^_6CAN\KQ*,T;!UUF<]?Y"!OOY!;STCO MNX(Z'1BDYP(J,`I/N6`4H*I`P(*/O+,W"P=AO]2Y46VDZ,19R(`H;!P M176Y[`;90:&;;T"3)-!DK%&U#B[<*,UDK2_$Y_(K]VZYJ^<42D'HC@:P-M<0 MJ*P4W3S"K6WYL&U`WZT,6)@[L1Z*%4O&4S`N*HL/4X:D^`8"Q0(!(_?W!-J8 M@W3)H8#V_S'*+X)_7)Z!*W]#9\)Y>B-PD8Z%O#?$;8#_ZPME/-&50&U($`I M\'OV,B\_^0>5_920E2!QI;]]8SLX&86Q8`MWVEC08)Z)Q(\>3R5K1M M)?:(06Y-=3.94N7T:TH45GX@1HQ0#1*"R&*F1'!;IM9(/0]7$6SC2SK\$OM7 M@]3"G+:(RGB#,CS#^"XL_06Z(/HANYU#AE8X/-I7H(#EQ#E2\DP`@$ZA:Q9O M@H^3`3GOZ5+'2&08-V9NEZ^"Z[MR&2.ZTDRA":YYK4/_N2EL?;Y$&R@-O]?K M4$;D\;Z"^>&:8\Q;E)NQ7DDA,?=-K;`-4W`22U)9U:FR5]>!?\/H;(43-L6`0`- ` end >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 7:10:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8831637B9BF for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA40444; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE7B37B9B8 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip132.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.132]) by kestrel.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05387 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rod.darktech.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1B3091F3; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20000408140556.1B3091F3@rod.darktech.org> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: eogren@earthlink.net Reply-To: eogren@earthlink.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17861: FAQ isn't completely up-to-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17861 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FAQ still needs 4.0 inserted in some places >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 8 07:10:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Ogren >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD rod.darktech.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Tue Apr 4 21:01:56 EDT 2000 eogren@rod.darktech.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUE i386 >Description: The FAQ still has a couple of places where it should be updated since 4.0 has been released. Also, added / modified a couple of entries to bring them up-to-date: * 'Panic: can't mount root!' updated to reflect the new boot loader (nothing added, just deleted) * Added a 'Error: can't find libc.so.4' question * Added a 'How do I upgrade from 3.X->4.x' question, just to make sure that no-one can claim we don't mention this procedure anywhere in our documentation. >How-To-Repeat: Read the FAQ >Fix: Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/doctree/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.49 diff -u -r1.49 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2000/04/03 12:01:33 1.49 +++ book.sgml 2000/04/08 13:59:40 @@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ - Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 2.X and 3.X + Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 2.X, 3.X and 4.X @@ -16,7 +16,7 @@ $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v 1.49 2000/04/03 12:01:33 phantom Exp $ - This is the FAQ for FreeBSD versions 2.X and 3.X. All entries + This is the FAQ for FreeBSD versions 2.X, 3.X, and 4.X. All entries are assumed to be relevant to FreeBSD 2.0.5 and later, unless otherwise noted. Any entries with a <XXX> are under construction. If you are interested in helping with this project, @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ Preface - Welcome to the FreeBSD 2.X-3.X FAQ! + Welcome to the FreeBSD 2.X-4.X FAQ! As is usual with Usenet FAQs, this document aims to cover the most frequently asked questions concerning the FreeBSD operating @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ - Briefly, FreeBSD 2.X is a UN*X-like operating system based + Briefly, FreeBSD is a UN*X-like operating system based on U.C. Berkeley's 4.4BSD-lite release for the i386 platform. It is also based indirectly on William Jolitz's port of U.C. Berkeley's Net/2 to the i386, known as 386BSD, though very @@ -152,16 +152,16 @@ Version 3.4 + URL="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.0-RELEASE/">4.0 is the latest stable version; it was - released in December, 1999. This is also the latest + released in March, 2000. This is also the latest release version. Briefly explained, -STABLE is aimed at the ISP or other corporate user who wants stability and a low change count over the wizzy new features of the latest -CURRENT snapshot. Releases can come - from either "branch," but you should only use + from either branch, but you should only use -CURRENT if you're sure that you're prepared for its increased volatility (relative to -STABLE, that is). @@ -244,9 +244,16 @@ releases. Snapshot releases are directly available from ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ - and are generated, on the average, once a day for the - 5.0-CURRENT, 4.X-STABLE and 3.X-STABLE branches. + URL="ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/"> + ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ + for 5.0-CURRENT and + + releng4.FreeBSD.org for 4-STABLE snapshots. + 3-STABLE snapshots can be found at + + releng3.FreeBSD.org. + Snapshots are generated, on the average, once a day for + all actively developed branches. @@ -339,7 +346,7 @@ - FreeBSD 3.x currently runs on the Since 3.x, FreeBSD has run on the DEC Alpha as well as the x86 architecture. Some interest has also been expressed in a SPARC port, but details on this project are not yet @@ -397,26 +404,26 @@ URL="ftp://current.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/3.4-RELEASE/">3.4-RELEASE directory. - - 2.2 Snapshot - releases are made once a day along the RELENG_2_2 branch (post - 2.2.8) as it slowly winds down in maintenance mode. The - RELENG_2_2 branch is currently being carefully maintained by - the legacy support folks and no changes other than those - strictly necessary for security or reliability enhancements - are now made. - - + The current 4.X-STABLE release, 4.0-RELEASE can be + found in the 4.0-RELEASE directory. + + 3.X Snapshot releases are also made once a day along the RELENG_3 branch (post 3.0-RELEASE) as it continues on its way towards - 3.4-RELEASE. + 3.5-RELEASE. - + + + 4.X + snapshots are made once a day as well. + + 5.0 Snapshot @@ -1630,7 +1637,28 @@ -At the Boot: prompt, enter +For FreeBSD 3.3 and later, reboot the system and hit +"Enter" at the "Booting kernel in 10 seconds; hit +[Enter] to interrupt" prompt. This will drop you into the boot +loader. +Then type set +root_disk_unit="<disk_number>". disk_number +will be 0 if FreeBSD is installed on the master drive +on the first IDE controller, 1 if it is installed +on the slave on the first IDE controller, 2 if it +is installed on the master of the second IDE controller, and +3 if it is installed on the slave of the second +IDE controller. +Then type "boot", and your system should boot +correctly. +To make this change permanent (ie so you don't have to do this +everytime you reboot or turn on your FreeBSD machine), put the line +"root_disk_unit="<disk_number>" in +/boot/loader.conf.local. + + + +If using FreeBSD 3.2 or earlier, at the Boot: prompt, enter 1:wd(2,a)kernel and press Enter. If the system starts, then run the command echo "1:wd(2,a)kernel" > /boot.config @@ -1771,7 +1799,24 @@ kernel, and installed a new kernel builtin from them without making world. This is not supported. Make world. - + + + +How do I upgrade from 3.X -> 4.X? + +We strongly recommend that you use +binary snapshots to do this. 4.X-STABLE snapshots are available at +releng4.FreeBSD.org. +If you wish to upgrade using source, please see the FreeBSD +Handbook for more information. +Upgrading via source is never recommended for new +users, and upgading from 3.X -> 4.X is even less so; make sure you +have read the instructions carefully before attempting to uprade via +source this! + + -for 4.0-CURRENT +for 4.0-RELEASE/4.X-STABLE -ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-current/ +ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/ + + +for 5.X-CURRENT + + +ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-current + + + @@ -3484,11 +3538,21 @@ Where do I find libc.so.3.0? -You are trying to run a package for 2.2/3.x/4.0 on a 2.1.x +You are trying to run a package built on 2.2 and later on a 2.1.x system. Please take a look at the previous section and get the correct port/package for your system. + +I get a message "Error: can't find +libc.so.4.0" + + +You accidently downloaded packages meant for 4.X and 5.X +systems and attempted to install them on your 2.X or 3.X FreeBSD system. +Please download the correct version of the +packages. + @@ -8382,17 +8446,21 @@ -RELENG_2_2 AKA 2.2-STABLE AKA "2.2 branch" +RELENG_2_2 AKA 2.2-STABLE -RELENG_3 AKA 3.X-STABLE AKA "3.0 branch" +RELENG_3 AKA 3.X-STABLE -HEAD AKA AKA 4.0-CURRENT +RELENG_4 AKA 4.X-STABLE + +HEAD AKA AKA 5.0-CURRENT + + @@ -8401,15 +8469,12 @@ "the current, non-branched development stream" which we simply refer to as . -Right now, is the 4.0 development stream and the -3.0-STABLE branch, RELENG_3, forked off from - in Jan 1999. +Right now, is the 5.0 development stream and the +4-STABLE branch, RELENG_4, forked off from + in Mar 2000. The 2.2-STABLE branch, RELENG_2_2, departed -CURRENT in -November 1996. - -The 2.1-STABLE branch, RELENG_2_1_0, departed -CURRENT in -September of 1994. This branch has been fully retired. +November 1996, and has pretty much been retired. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 7:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EA437B6DF for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA42816; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C4C37B8F5 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip132.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.132]) by merlin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12687 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rod.darktech.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A10811F3; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20000408143300.A10811F3@rod.darktech.org> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: eogren@earthlink.net Reply-To: eogren@earthlink.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17862: Handbook missing entry on changing shells Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17862 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook missing entry about changing shells >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 8 07:40:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Ogren >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD rod.darktech.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Tue Apr 4 21:01:56 EDT 2000 eogren@rod.darktech.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUE i386 >Description: Reported by Mike Kohout on freebsd-doc. Handbook is missing an entry on how to change shells. Mike suggested documenting user utilities and doing it manually; since this is the "Basics" section of the handbook, I chose to document the use of chsh only. >How-To-Repeat: Notice that in section 3.4, there is nothing telling the user how to change the shell. >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/doctree/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/basics/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2000/04/06 20:28:27 1.16 +++ chapter.sgml 2000/04/08 14:23:34 @@ -331,6 +331,38 @@ $TERM prints whatever your terminal is set to. echo \$TERM prints $TERM as is. + + + Changing your shell + + The easiest way to change your shell is to use the + chsh. Running chsh will + place you into the editor that is in your EDITOR + environment variable; if it is not set, you will be placed in + vi. Change the "Shell:" line + accordingly. + + You can also give chsh the + option; this will set the shell for you + without having to enter the editor. For example, if you wanted to + change your shell to bash: + &prompt.user; chsh -s /usr/local/bin/bash + would do the trick. Running chsh with no + parameters and editing the shell from there would work also. + + The shell that you wish to use + must be present in the + /etc/shells file. If you have installed a + shell from the ports collection, + then this should have been done for you already. If you installed + the shell by hand, you must do this. + + For example, if you installed bash by hand + and placed it into /usr/local/bin, you would + want to: + &prompt.root; echo "/usr/local/bin/bash" >> /etc/shells + And then rerun chsh. + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 8: 3:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC4537B8F5 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA34371; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:52:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:51:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Sean Kelly Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML'ifying device driver docs Message-ID: <20000408115159.A34149@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <033301bfa0b9$e221c0c0$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <033301bfa0b9$e221c0c0$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov>; from kelly@ad1440.net on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:51:20AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:51:20AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote: > Using XML to leverage "free" documentation out of developers is a snazzy > idea. And developers can learn XML is almost no time. > > But what about processing tools? > > Some of the best XML utilities I've used are all in Java. I haven't played > around at all with xerces-C, yet, though (see http://xml.apache.org/ for > more information). Anyone else? For something like this, requiring Java is overkill. I don't know of any XSLT processors in Perl, but the XML::* modules could be used to write a translator. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 8: 4: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710DC37B7B2 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA34703; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:54:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:54:42 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Sean Kelly Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML'ifying again Message-ID: <20000408115442.B34149@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <03a701bfa0d6$27d13210$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <03a701bfa0d6$27d13210$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov>; from kelly@ad1440.net on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:13:39PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:13:39PM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote: > One other quickie: is your plan to use XSLT to convert the device driver > markup to Docbook for inclusion in the handbook and/or FAQs? That would be part of it, yes. For an idea of something I'd like to be able to support, go look at http://www.BSDI.COM/products/internet/hardware/ > Are you folks considering moving to Docbook XML? Not yet. SGML is more flexible than XML, and we can, if absolutely necessary, pre-process the SGML to produce compliant XML, before processing with XML tools. For the time being, the doc project sticks with SGML. I know that DocBook 4.0 is slated to be the last major SGML DocBook DTD, as 5.0 will (apparently) be XML only. That change is at least 18 months away. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 8: 4:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627D937B62D for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:04:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA60845; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:24:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:24:38 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book Message-ID: <20000408152437.A59510@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <70943.954759186@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:29:54PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:29:54PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Right, we have go-ahead from Addison-Wesley to incorporate the chapter > into our www distro, provided that mirrors do not mess with the blurb > that describes that the text is "excerpted with permission". Also, this > is with the understanding that the www distro is _not_ distributed on > CDROM. > > The original idea of incorporating this into the Handbook is obviously > not appropriate, since the handbook is dsitrbuted on CDROM. Hmm. My first instinct is to say "make it a port", with the port Makefile including the NO_CDROM variable (or whatever it's called). We don't really have the infrastructure to support selectively including docs in the doc/ tree from "make release", or (worse) selectively including content from the Handbook when doing "make release". I mean, we could do it, but it's a kludge. I'd rather try and work with A-W and try and make them see sense. Of course, you've been doing the leg work on this so far, and if they're not willing to do it now, I assume you've already tried convincing them. > Addison-Wesley would like a list of our .freebsd.org www mirrors. Where > can I find such a thing? :-) The most accurate list is probably going to be in the DNS. That said, there are probably many other unofficial mirrors that we don't know about. One more thing. This is probably going to be the sort of content that'll fit right in to the Developer Handbook that I'm building right now. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 12:54:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7175537B621 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 12:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA57467 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:54:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:54:18 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Newbus Message-ID: <20000408215418.A57365@lucifer.bart.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure if I sent it to -doc already: http://people.freebsd.org/~asmodai/newbus-draft.txt Still needs a lot of attention and extra stuff, but I already have something for people to look at. =) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Like cures like... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 13: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3DC637B649; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA57588; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:07:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:07:46 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Creating a "Developer's Handbook" Message-ID: <20000408220746.A57538@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000406011457.C78379@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 01:14:57AM +0100 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik et al, -On [20000406 02:55], Nik Clayton (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >-doc, > >There seems to be a consensus forming over the past 24 hours or so that >breaking out a chunk of the Handbook in to a "Developer's Handbook" >(and probably a "Porters Handbook" would be a good thing. I like the idea. >Unless there are any objections, I'll do this in about 36-48 hours. Well, I am not going to bother with the Porter's stuff, that's not my turf. However on the Developer's note I already did some planning and organising, which can be found at http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai/pdp/index.html I also wrote some other docs which I need to move into Docbook format (that was all before I got my commit bit). Neil and me are currently working on setting up a mechanism to document /usr/src akin to the GTk+ RDP project (http://www.gtk.org/rdp/). >If you think there's a problem with this, please reply to this message. >Don't worry if you haven't got time to put together a detailed response, >a simple "I want to talk about this some more, please wait" will do fine, >we can pick it up again when you've got more time. Well, I am for it. However, there are only a few chapters worth of keeping history of. I have been focussing more on mdoc the last time, but I am willing to undertake this challenge under your final judgement and fold it into the current doc/ CVS tree. Let me know about your take on this... -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Is there a place deep within, a place where you hide your darkest Sins..? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 13:10:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lucifer.bart.nl (lucifer.bart.nl [194.158.168.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A67637BC07; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@lucifer.bart.nl) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by lucifer.bart.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA57615; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:10:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 22:10:36 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven To: Nik Clayton Cc: Sean Kelly , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XML'ifying device driver docs Message-ID: <20000408221036.B57538@lucifer.bart.nl> References: <033301bfa0b9$e221c0c0$24d39580@jpl.nasa.gov> <20000408115159.A34149@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000408115159.A34149@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 11:51:59AM +0100 Organisation: bART Internet Services B.V. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -On [20000408 17:05], Nik Clayton (nik@FreeBSD.ORG) wrote: >On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 10:51:20AM -0700, Sean Kelly wrote: >> But what about processing tools? >> >> Some of the best XML utilities I've used are all in Java. I haven't played >> around at all with xerces-C, yet, though (see http://xml.apache.org/ for >> more information). Anyone else? > >For something like this, requiring Java is overkill. I don't know of any >XSLT processors in Perl, but the XML::* modules could be used to write a >translator. Don't forget the obvious libxml at http://xmlsoft.org/ along with: http://bitsko.slc.ut.us/libxml-perl/ -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl One from many. .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 13:30:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1893037B680; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA70131; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 13:30:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200004082030.NAA70131@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/17862: Handbook missing entry about changing shells Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook missing entry about changing shells Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jim Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Apr 8 13:30:21 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 15:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231937B7ED for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA87435; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9708737BB47 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@earthlink.net) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip17.cambridge2.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.112.17]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16351 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rod.darktech.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9F6E01E6; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20000408224333.9F6E01E6@rod.darktech.org> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: eogren@earthlink.net Reply-To: eogren@earthlink.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/17869: [PATCH] Minor update of installation section of handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 17869 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Patch provided to update installation section of book >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 8 15:50:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Ogren >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD rod.darktech.org 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #3: Tue Apr 4 21:01:56 EDT 2000 eogren@rod.darktech.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/BLUE i386 >Description: Because I've been incredibly bored today, continue my minor doc patches. This time, I've been looking at the installation section. In no particular order: * Minor grammar nits * Suggest Partition Magic to users; IMO, this is probably the most userful utility for those who use multiple OSs. * Sysinstall is now much more user-friendly wrt to ppp installation & setup * Sysinstall will setup anonymous FTP for you if you ask it to * IDE CDROM Device name change: wcd -> acd * Add some more information about downloading the distribution from ftp.FreeBSD.org * The IP address for ftp.FreeBSD.org was incorrect; fix it * Windows File Manager -> Windows Explorer (since there are probably 3 people left in the world that still use Win16) * Note that IDE drivers are ad* in 4.0 and later * Installation types: Novice -> Standard >How-To-Repeat: Become really bored while having a copy of the CVS repository on your hard drive. :) [Or notice that the handbook does not have any of the above] >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/doctree/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2000/04/05 12:25:23 1.37 +++ chapter.sgml 2000/04/08 22:24:39 @@ -21,20 +21,25 @@ No matter which method you choose, you will need to get started by creating the installation disks as described - in the next section. By - booting into the FreeBSD installer, even if you are not planning on + in the next section. + Booting into the FreeBSD installer, even if you are not planning on installing FreeBSD right away, will provide important information about compatibility with your hardware. This information may dictate which installation options are even possible for you. It can also provide clues early-on in the process to potential problems you may come across later. - If you plan to install FreeBSD via anonymous FTP, the only + If you plan to install FreeBSD via NFS or anonymous FTP, the only thing you will need are the installation floppies. The install program itself will handle anything else that is required. + If you wish to install via an MSDOS partition, you will also have to + download parts of the FreeBSD distribution manually. See the + MSDOS Installation section + of this guide for more information. + For more information about obtaining FreeBSD, see the Obtaining FreeBSD section of the Appendix. @@ -113,7 +118,9 @@ With the kern.flp disk in your floppy - drive, reboot your computer. You will be prompted to insert + drive, reboot your computer. After a couple of minutes + (while the kernel loads from the floppy), you + will be prompted to insert the mfsroot.flp, after which the installation will proceed normally. @@ -200,6 +207,11 @@ ftp://your machine after picking “Other” in the FTP sites menu during the install. + + If you choose to enable anonymous FTP during the + installation of your system, the installation program will do + the above procedure for you. + @@ -216,7 +228,8 @@ you are preparing the floppies from DOS, then they MUST be formatted using the MS-DOS FORMAT command. If you are using Windows, - use the Windows File Manager format command. + use Explorer to format the disks (right-click on the + A: drive, and select "Format". Do NOT trust factory pre-formatted floppies! Format them again yourself, just to be sure. Many @@ -278,7 +291,15 @@ Assuming that C: is where you have free space and E: is where your CDROM is mounted. - + + If you do not have a CDROM drive, you can download the + distribution from + ftp.FreeBSD.org. Each distribution is in its own directory; + for example, the bin distribution can be + found in the &rel.current;/bin directory. + For as many distributions you wish to install from an MS-DOS partition (and you have the free space for), install each one under c:\FreeBSD — the @@ -334,14 +355,17 @@ If you are using a modem, then PPP is almost certainly your only choice. Make sure that you have your service provider's information handy as you will need to know it fairly - early in the installation process. You will also need to know + early in the installation process. + If you use PAP or CHAP to connect your ISP (in other + words, if you can connect to the ISP in Windows without + using a script), then all you will need to do is type in + dial at the + ppp prompt. Otherwise, + you will need to know how to dial your ISP using the “AT commands” specific to your modem, as the PPP dialer provides only a very - simple terminal emulator. If you are using PAP or CHAP, you - will need to type the necessary set authname - and set authkey commands before typing - term. Refer to the user-ppp handbook and handbook and FAQ entries for further information. If you have problems, logging can be directed to the screen using the command set log local @@ -375,7 +399,7 @@ gateway (if you are using PPP, it is your provider's IP address) to use in talking to it. If you do not know the answers to all or most of these questions, then you should really probably talk - to your system administrator before trying + to your system administrator or ISP before trying this type of installation. @@ -427,7 +451,7 @@ install from, so the following would work in the absence of a name server: - ftp://165.113.121.81/pub/FreeBSD/&rel.current;-RELEASE + ftp://209.55.82.20/pub/FreeBSD/&rel.current;-RELEASE There are two FTP installation modes you can choose from, active or passive FTP. @@ -437,7 +461,8 @@ FTP Active - For all FTP transfers, use “Active” + This option will make all FTP transfers + use “Active” mode. This will not work through firewalls, but will often work with older FTP servers that do not support passive mode. If your connection hangs with passive @@ -449,8 +474,9 @@ FTP Passive - For all FTP transfers, use “Passive” - mode. This allows the user to pass through firewalls + This option instructs FreeBSD to use + “Passive” mode for all FTP operations. + This allows the user to pass through firewalls that do not allow incoming connections on random port addresses. @@ -542,12 +568,12 @@ - Select a Novice, Custom, or Express install, depending on + Select a Standard, Express, or Custom install, depending on whether or not you would like the installation to help you through a typical installation, give you a high degree of control over each step, or simply whizz through it (using reasonable defaults when possible) as fast as possible. If - you have never used FreeBSD before, the Novice installation + you have never used FreeBSD before, the Standard installation method is most recommended. @@ -738,7 +764,7 @@ - wcd - ATAPI IDE interface + acd - ATAPI IDE interface @@ -1559,13 +1585,25 @@ FIPS allows you to split an existing MS-DOS partition into two pieces, preserving the original partition and allowing you to install onto the second free piece. You - first defragment your MS-DOS partition using the DOS 6.XX - DEFRAG utility or the Norton Disk Tools, then run FIPS. It + first defragment your MS-DOS partition using the Windows + DEFRAG utility (go into Explorer, right-click on the + hard drive, and choose to defrag your + hard drive), or Norton Disk Tools. You then must run FIPS. It will prompt you for the rest of the information it needs. Afterwards, you can reboot and install FreeBSD on the new free slice. See the Distributions menu for an estimate of how much free space you will need for the kind of installation you want. + + There is also a very useful + product from PowerQuest + called Partition Magic. This + application has far more functionality than FIPS, and is + highly recommended if you plan to often add/remove + operating systems (like me). However, it does cost + money, and if you plan to install FreeBSD once and then + leave it there, FIPS will probably be fine for you. @@ -1603,12 +1641,15 @@ E: drive, /dev/da0s6, and so on. This example assumes, of course, that your extended partition is on SCSI - drive 0. For IDE drives, substitute wd - for da appropriately. You otherwise + drive 0. For IDE drives, substitute ad + for da appropriately if installing + 4.0-RELEASE or later, and substitute + wd for da if you + are installing a version of FreeBSD prior to 4.0. You otherwise mount extended partitions exactly like you would any other DOS drive, for example: - &prompt.root; mount -t msdos /dev/da0s5 /dos_d + &prompt.root; mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s5 /dos_d >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 8 21:19:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ptd.net (mail1.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2211737B5FB for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 21:19:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 29699 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2000 04:19:27 -0000 Received: from du69.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) (204.186.33.69) by mail.ptd.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2000 04:19:27 -0000 Message-ID: <38F004A6.146EF2C1@mail.ptd.net> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 00:18:46 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plan to incorporate chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book References: <11945.955110594@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:53:06 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > I'm in communication with the editor of the 4.4BSD book (McKusick et al) > > about the possibility of publishing chapter 2 (Design Overview) as part > > of the FreeBSD online handbook. > > Right, we have go-ahead from Addison-Wesley to incorporate the chapter > into our www distro, provided that mirrors do not mess with the blurb > that describes that the text is "excerpted with permission". Also, this > is with the understanding that the www distro is _not_ distributed on > CDROM. > > The original idea of incorporating this into the Handbook is obviously > not appropriate, since the handbook is dsitrbuted on CDROM. How about keeping it physically outside the handbook (and CVS, since presumably it won't be changed), somewhere on a freebsd server, and having the appropriate places in the handbook link to it? This way it could be logically part of the handbook, but not be distributed with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message