From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 6:41: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B8137B502 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 06:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl03.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13fjMM-00024u-00; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 15:40:54 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.225.195.108]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13fjML-0evXJgC; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:40:53 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF26AB91 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:41:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 96D4F14B09; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:40:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 15:40:38 +0200 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: device hints in manpages Message-ID: <20001001154038.A3341@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! How are we going to document the hints-stuff in manpages? We have to replace many lines like this: .Cd "device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 flags 0x4 iosiz 16384 iomem 0xd8000" to something way more appreciate. Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 10: 8:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E5637B66C for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id TAA14550; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:08:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13fmUP-0006nF-00 for ; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 19:01:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:01:25 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook broken (again...) Message-ID: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everybody! Tonight, we have a Handbook breakage again. It was broken by the addition of Scott Long to the Staff page, because the respective entry was not added to authors.ent. I did not CC Scott because I am not sure if this is something that is expected of the new committer or is someone else's responsibility. Anyway, apply following patch: --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/authors.ent.orig Sun Oct 1 18:43:34 2000 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/authors.ent Sun Oct 1 18:36:13 2000 @@ -438,6 +438,8 @@ scrappy@FreeBSD.org"> +scottl@FreeBSD.org"> + se@FreeBSD.org"> sef@FreeBSD.org"> And now, please excuse me, but: Guys, this has been broken since Friday evening, or in other words for more than 45 hours now. This is really something to look at. It looks there are not many ppl trying to build docs on a regular basis *and* reporting failures back. But doesn't the automated rebuilding of the web site also include the Handbook? If it does (as I suppose it does) then why does it fail silently? Also, the daily docs snapshots building should also fail... otherwise the documentation can be broken for weeks in worst-case scenario without anybody noticing...grrrr. This should be fixed IMO. -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 10:20: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313CB37B502 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13fmmJ-0006PG-00; Sun, 01 Oct 2000 19:19:55 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 19:19:55 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook broken (again...) Message-ID: <20001001191955.A24592@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>; from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 07:01:25PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 2000-10-01 (19:01), Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > Guys, this has been broken since Friday evening, or in other words for > more than 45 hours now. This is really something to look at. It looks there > are not many ppl trying to build docs on a regular basis *and* reporting > failures back. But doesn't the automated rebuilding of the web site also > include the Handbook? If it does (as I suppose it does) then why does it > fail silently? Also, the daily docs snapshots building should also fail... > otherwise the documentation can be broken for weeks in worst-case scenario > without anybody noticing...grrrr. This should be fixed IMO. > I fixed it. I think we probably should have automated build failure notification, so I'll see if I can set it up. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 10:27:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF8C37B503; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28680; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:27:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03017; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:27:33 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:27:33 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: wosch@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Handbook broken (again...) Message-ID: <20001001202733.A2331@ark.cris.net> References: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>; from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 07:01:25PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wolfram, Can you please restore web server rebuild script when it had reported all failures both you and -doc mailing list ? It would be helpful. On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 07:01:25PM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > And now, please excuse me, but: > > > Guys, this has been broken since Friday evening, or in other words for > more than 45 hours now. This is really something to look at. It looks there > are not many ppl trying to build docs on a regular basis *and* reporting > failures back. But doesn't the automated rebuilding of the web site also > include the Handbook? If it does (as I suppose it does) then why does it > fail silently? Also, the daily docs snapshots building should also fail... > otherwise the documentation can be broken for weeks in worst-case scenario > without anybody noticing...grrrr. This should be fixed IMO. > -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 17:22:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A9537B503 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e920MdG91960 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:22:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 09:22:39 +0900 Message-ID: <7mpulk2isw.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making the handbook easier to use (part one) In-Reply-To: In your message of "29 Sep 2000 01:10:31 GMT" <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 29 Sep 2000 01:10:31 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > The attached patch removes the scary bits that are > contrib/chapter.sgml's contributor list and replaces it with a > simple-to-use name|address to prevent messups and generally make it more > the way I like it. Yeah, that's nice way to simplify contrib/chapter.sgml. But I think this is not the way our project looks forward. This change drops SGML's merit which describes itself. But I know DocBook scares non-doc project staff, so comment like > I'm not sure what the rest of you think, but this is a test of making > the handbook content easier to manipulate without docbook knowledge, > possibly even easy to manipulate from a script. While this technique > will probably work best with the web site, there are a few places in the > doc tree that might benefit from this. is worth to discuss... -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 17:47:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E5837B503 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e920lC128359; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:47:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 17:47:12 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making the handbook easier to use (part one) Message-ID: <20001001174712.A27211@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:10:24AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:10:24AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > The attached patch removes the scary bits that are > contrib/chapter.sgml's contributor list and replaces it with a > simple-to-use name|address to prevent messups and generally make it more > the way I like it. > > I'm not sure what the rest of you think, but this is a test of making > the handbook content easier to manipulate without docbook knowledge, > possibly even easy to manipulate from a script. While this technique > will probably work best with the web site, there are a few places in the > doc tree that might benefit from this. I don't buy the ease of contribution argument. The problem is that this sort of thing seems like it's only going to work in cases like this one where the learning curve is something like 5-10 seconds for anyone who's ever used HTML before. I mean, there's nothing at all complicated about (choosing a random entry from the list): Adam Baran badam@mw.mil.pl I just can't see how this change eases the barriers to contribution. On the other hand, I see two potential viable arguments for this change. First, having the list in the actual chapter file seems bad to me in that it makes editing the non-list text difficult. It seems that long lists should be in their own files regardless of the issue of format. Second, this non-SGML format is easier to keep in order with standard tools like sort(1). -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 18:17:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A234037B502 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e921HC402623; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 18:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200010020117.e921HC402623@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: rosti@netvision.net.il Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mistake in RELNOTES.TXT of FreeBSD 4.1.1 RELAESE In-Reply-To: <39D62D9E.FAAFA3E@netvision.net.il> References: <39D62D9E.FAAFA3E@netvision.net.il> Comments: In-reply-to rosti@netvision.net.il message dated "Sat, 30 Sep 2000 20:14:54 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1801554976P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2000 18:17:12 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1801554976P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, rosti@netvision.net.il wrote: > In section 3.2 CDROM wroten: > "FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and 3.x-RELEASE CDs may be ordered on CDROM from:" > I think it will be more correct to change it to: > "FreeBSD 4.x-RELEASE and 3.x-RELEASE CDs may be ordered on CDROM from:" Fixed! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1801554976P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: /1i9iDLNGM+PRImT0pZxpUjzx6/y0ISi iQA/AwUBOdfiGNjKMXFboFLDEQKg7ACeI7sR2WEgm+63VNY93rqgW9JHq1MAoPRf W/sHBlbtHqDuVFNKMQs46NfX =i8x9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1801554976P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 20:53:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD9137B503 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e923r0G93788 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:53:00 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:53:00 +0900 Message-ID: <7mhf6v3nmr.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook broken (again...) In-Reply-To: In your message of "1 Oct 2000 17:20:13 GMT" <20001001191955.A24592@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20001001191955.A24592@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1 Oct 2000 17:20:13 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > I fixed it. I think we probably should have automated build failure > notification, so I'll see if I can set it up. I have hourly script to do so. But this script shout *hourly* until build failure is fixed... If Wolfram cannot supply positive response to Alexey's question, , I'll point it to -doc list. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 21:27: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F77537B66D for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA98923 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 21:27:05 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: A Guide for FreeBSD Ports Committers link Message-ID: <20001001212705.A98903@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "A Guide for FreeBSD Ports Committers" from http://www.freebsd.org/internal/developer.html points to something that doesn't quite seem right. Is this an error, or is the page pointed to the correct one? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 22:57: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C935E37B66D for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e925ueG95243 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 14:56:41 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 14:56:40 +0900 Message-ID: <7m8zs73hwn.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A Guide for FreeBSD Ports Committers link In-Reply-To: In your message of "2 Oct 2000 04:27:10 GMT" <20001001212705.A98903@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20001001212705.A98903@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2 Oct 2000 04:27:10 GMT, David O'Brien wrote: > "A Guide for FreeBSD Ports Committers" from > http://www.freebsd.org/internal/developer.html points to something that > doesn't quite seem right. Is this an error, or is the page pointed to > the correct one? I think it's my fault. Fixed to point to porter's handbook. Thanks. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Oct 1 23:15:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54FD37B66F for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 23:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA94051; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:15:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12546; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:15:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:15:46 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook broken (again...) Message-ID: <20001002091546.A14403@ark.cris.net> References: <20001001190125.A25848@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20001001191955.A24592@mithrandr.moria.org> <7mhf6v3nmr.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <7mhf6v3nmr.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:53:00PM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:53:00PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > I have hourly script to do so. But this script shout *hourly* until > build failure is fixed... With one minor change: s/hourly/daily :) Otherwise it will more looks like spam. > If Wolfram cannot supply positive response to Alexey's question, , > I'll point it to -doc list. Thanks! -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 1: 3:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0919837B66C; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e91J3PO04320; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:03:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:03:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Message-ID: <20001001200325.A4294@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000928100529.A51667@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 10:18:25AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 10:18:25AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > PHP and database stuff also brings up interesting issues relating to > > > > 1. How do you version the content in the database? > > You don't. If you wanted a versionable search, we could enforce META tag > discipline. That is not needed to put a search engine in place. We're talking at cross purposes. I'm assuming PHP and databases in general, you're just talking about the search. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 1: 4:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D10037B66D; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e91JA4U04342; Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:10:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 20:10:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Andrew Boothman Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , core@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Message-ID: <20001001201004.B4294@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@cream.org on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 04:36:14AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 04:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Perhaps having the entire archive in tables in a MySQL server is a good idea, > because of the flexability that SQL would give us. I'm not saying that's "The > Way To Go", I'm just saying that it can be implemented in any way we want. > Subject to that little question of the resources that are available. Before we go any further down that route, I'd like to hear why something like ports/www/swish-e and a standard CGI isn't suitable. This would (in theory) make it easier for mirrors to do searches locally if they preferred. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 1:53: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AB537B66D; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 01:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e928qbG23223; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:52:37 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:52:37 +0900 Message-ID: <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nbm@FreeBSD.org Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: cvs commit: www Makefile www/en Makefile web.mk www/en/commercial Makefile gencommercial.pl www/en/gallery Makefile www/en/ports Makefile Makefile.inc0 portindex www/en/search Makefile www/en/tutorials Makefile In-Reply-To: In your message of "Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:21:40 -0700 (PDT)" <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:21:40 -0700 (PDT), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Log: > First (and very minor) changes on the way to make the www build > obj-clean. How about doc/ tree? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 2:25:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E310037B502 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13g1qJ-0009Ck-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 11:25:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:25:03 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: cvs commit: www Makefile www/en Makefile web.mk www/en/commercial Makefile gencommercial.pl www/en/gallery Makefile www/en/ports Makefile Makefile.inc0 portindex www/en/search Makefile www/en/tutorials Makefile Message-ID: <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 05:52:37PM +0900 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2000-10-02 (17:52), Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:21:40 -0700 (PDT), > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > Log: > > First (and very minor) changes on the way to make the www build > > obj-clean. > > How about doc/ tree? It should be obj-clean - I made sure of that end of last year. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 2:54:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A322537B503 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 02:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e929rrG30980; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:53:54 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:53:53 +0900 Message-ID: <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www Makefile www/en Makefile web.mk www/en/commercial Makefile gencommercial.pl www/en/gallery Makefile www/en/ports Makefile Makefile.inc0 portindex www/en/search Makefile www/en/tutorials Makefile In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:25:03 +0200" <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2 Oct 2000 09:25:22 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > It should be obj-clean - I made sure of that end of last year. Excellent! Should we apply this patch? Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/09/30 00:21:38 1.14 +++ Makefile 2000/10/02 09:51:02 @@ -54,6 +54,10 @@ ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/includes.sgml: cd ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/includes.sgml + +.if make(obj) +SUBDIR+= ../doc +.endif .endif .include -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 3:11:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F8137B66C for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 03:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13g2Z6-0009HX-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:11:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:11:20 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: www Makefile www/en Makefile web.mk www/en/commercial Makefile gencommercial.pl www/en/gallery Makefile www/en/ports Makefile Makefile.inc0 portindex www/en/search Makefile www/en/tutorials Makefile Message-ID: <20001002121120.A35653@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 06:53:53PM +0900 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2000-10-02 (18:53), Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At 2 Oct 2000 09:25:22 GMT, > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > It should be obj-clean - I made sure of that end of last year. > > Excellent! Should we apply this patch? > > + > +.if make(obj) > +SUBDIR+= ../doc > +.endif We aren't quite (anywhere near) obj-clean in www/ yet, because of all the funny games we play with symlinks. Symlinks have very little place in builds, but I'm not quite ready to fix all the errors I get if I don't have symlinks to en/web.mk in www/, www/ja, www/en, www/es, &c. The problem being that we can't 'make obj' properly without 'make links', and the links don't make sense once you've run 'make obj'. But since it doesn't work now anyway, I can't see how adding more "almost working" stuff to it can harm anything. (: Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 3:19: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB4A37B68E for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 03:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e92AICG32442; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:18:12 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:18:12 +0900 Message-ID: <7mzokn1r8b.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: www building (was Re: cvs commit: www Makefile ...) In-Reply-To: In your message of "Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:11:20 +0200" <20001002121120.A35653@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002121120.A35653@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:11:20 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > We aren't quite (anywhere near) obj-clean in www/ yet, because of all > the funny games we play with symlinks. Symlinks have very little place > in builds, but I'm not quite ready to fix all the errors I get if I > don't have symlinks to en/web.mk in www/, www/ja, www/en, www/es, &c. I think we should kill symlinks from www building. doc/ tree uses "$DOC_PREFIX/.../doc.project.mk" to point master makefile and www/ja uses "$LOCALTOP/web.mk" to point symlinked web.mk in www/ja. Can we use $WWW_PREFIX or so to point master web.mk and kill symlinks? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 3:24:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A8A37B502 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 03:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13g2lw-0009Kl-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:24:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:24:36 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: www building (was Re: cvs commit: www Makefile ...) Message-ID: <20001002122435.A35833@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002121120.A35653@mithrandr.moria.org> <7mzokn1r8b.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7mzokn1r8b.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 07:18:12PM +0900 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2000-10-02 (19:18), Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:11:20 +0200, > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > We aren't quite (anywhere near) obj-clean in www/ yet, because of all > > the funny games we play with symlinks. Symlinks have very little place > > in builds, but I'm not quite ready to fix all the errors I get if I > > don't have symlinks to en/web.mk in www/, www/ja, www/en, www/es, &c. > > I think we should kill symlinks from www building. doc/ tree uses > "$DOC_PREFIX/.../doc.project.mk" to point master makefile and www/ja > uses "$LOCALTOP/web.mk" to point symlinked web.mk in www/ja. > > Can we use $WWW_PREFIX or so to point master web.mk and kill symlinks? Well, I've been planning on reimplementing the way the www/ tree works to be more in line with the doc/ tree - as in, www/share can store a common makefile, and if necessary, the www/en, www/ja, and other language directories can have their overriding makefiles. I suppose I've just brought it up - is there a more appropriate place or people to talk about the www/ tree, and does anyone particularly mind if I touch lots of files "fixing" the location of web.mk? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 3:50:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284CA37B503 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 03:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30425; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:50:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA50338; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:50:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:50:24 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Jun Kuriyama , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www building (was Re: cvs commit: www Makefile ...) Message-ID: <20001002135024.A49816@ark.cris.net> References: <200009300021.RAA53546@freefall.freebsd.org> <7m4s2v39re.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002112502.A35297@mithrandr.moria.org> <7m3dif36xa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002121120.A35653@mithrandr.moria.org> <7mzokn1r8b.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001002122435.A35833@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001002122435.A35833@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:24:36PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 12:24:36PM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > I suppose I've just brought it up - is there a more appropriate place or > people to talk about the www/ tree, and does anyone particularly mind if > I touch lots of files "fixing" the location of web.mk? I don't think that anyone have objections, but I would request to publish your patches before committing to allow those who interesting in www/ build structure to review them. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 5:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC78537B502 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA82417; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 3EBE437B66C; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001002124530.3EBE437B66C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 05:45:30 -0700 (PDT) From: neuf@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21700: Description of SysKonnect Gigabit Ethernet cards in RELNOTES.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21700 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Description of SysKonnect Gigabit Ethernet cards in RELNOTES.TXT >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 02 05:50:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Harald Neuffer >Release: 4.1.1 >Organization: Univerity Erlangen-Nuremberg >Environment: >Description: RELNOTES.TXT says about SysKonnect SK-984x PCI Gigabit Ethernet cards: SK-9842 1000baseSX multimode fiber, single port SK-9843 1000baseLX single mode fiber, dual port According to information of the manufacturer (www.syskonnect.com) the correct description is: SK-9842 1000baseLX single mode fiber, dual port SK-9843 1000baseSX multimode fiber, single port >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 7:38:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from md4.vsnl.net.in (md4.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D021537B503 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from md4.vsnl.net.in (bay-69.pppmad.vsnl.net.in [203.197.134.55] (may be forged)) by md4.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13297 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 20:13:26 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <39D89DB1.68C30ED0@md4.vsnl.net.in> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:07:37 +0530 From: sarah65 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Technical Recruiter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sir , I am the Technical Recruiter were I am associated with Many software companies in Chennai , Bangalore and Hydrabad in India for more then 4+ years . 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Phone: 044- 6266488 Mobile : 98400-63664 Email :sarah65@vsnl.com www:alphainfosys.com =========================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 7:42:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8409737B66D; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 13g6n8-0006wQ-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:42:06 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA17042; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:42:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 16641; Mon Oct 2 16:39:55 2000 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13g6l1-0003GZ-00; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:39:55 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Images in docs on their way. . . In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:13 +0100." <20000925155811.A22824@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:39:55 +0200 Message-ID: <12558.970497595@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:13 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Depending on spare time I might get to commit all this before BSDCon. That would be absolutely awesome. It'd be really cool to have Chapter 2 of the 4.4BSD book merged in with images before I meet Kirk. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 11: 0:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A287437B66D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA97704 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010021800.LAA97704@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n o [2000/09/25] docs/21550 doc Some documents on Softupdates are not yet 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/17] docs/19995 doc keymap(5) missing from manual in 3.4-RELE o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/07/30] docs/20298 doc man 5 keymap missing in 4.1 (Stable) o [2000/08/02] docs/20369 doc [patch] mountd.8 missing cross-references o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/06] docs/20447 doc forcing NFS exports to be updated o [2000/08/07] docs/20477 doc Document syslogd's special treatment of k o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/09/25] docs/21542 doc sigaction(2) man page is misleading o [2000/10/02] docs/21700 doc Description of SysKonnect Gigabit Etherne 29 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 11:20:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832CF37B66D; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA11374; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 11:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010021820.LAA11374@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21700: Description of SysKonnect Gigabit Ethernet cards in RELNOTES.TXT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Description of SysKonnect Gigabit Ethernet cards in RELNOTES.TXT Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->bmah Responsible-Changed-By: bmah Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Oct 2 11:20:06 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll look into this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21700 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 13:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B763E37B66D for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA83504; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from monkeys.com (236.dsl9226.rcsis.com [63.92.26.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4919F37B679 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rfg@localhost) by monkeys.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id e92KB4o79506; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010022011.e92KB4o79506@monkeys.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 13:11:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Reply-To: rfg@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: rfg@monkeys.com X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21708: kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific about `timeout' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21708 >Category: docs >Synopsis: kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific about `timeout' >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 02 13:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Infinite Monkeys & Co. >Environment: >Description: The man page for kqueue/kevent doesn't explicitly say what the semantics of the `timeout' parameter for the kqueue(2) function are. Will a call to kqueue() timeout and return to the caller (with a return value of zero) when no currently-monitored events have occured for the amount of _elapsed_ time specified by the `timeout' parameter? Or will a call to kqueue() timeout and return to the caller (with a return value of zero) if no monitored events have occured by the time the system's own clock says that we have reached the time specified by the `timeout' parameter? In short, is the `timeout' parameter for kevent(2) interpreted (by the kernel) as a _relative_ time period, or as an _absolute_ time specification? The kevent(2) man page does not make this clear. >How-To-Repeat: RTFManpage >Fix: Specify in the manpage that `timeout' is either (a) relative or else (b) absolute. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 15:50: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9176337B503 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA75249; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from november.jaded.net (november.jaded.net [216.94.132.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC9C37B502 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjp@localhost) by november.jaded.net (8.9.3/8.9.3+trinsec_nospam) id SAA08440; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200010022250.SAA08440@november.jaded.net> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: pjp@click2net.com Reply-To: pjp@click2net.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21712: core(5) manpage fails to mention kern.sugid_coredump Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21712 >Category: docs >Synopsis: core(5) manpage fails to mention kern.sugid_coredump >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Oct 02 15:50:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Peter Philipp >Release: >Organization: Click2Net Inc. >Environment: >Description: It takes too long for someone not familiar with coredump operations to figure out how to make a process dump core when that file is setugid or a process changes credentials with setuid(), seteuid(), setgid() ... A mention in the manpage would be helpful, patch below. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: unified patch below for /usr/src/share/man/man5/core.5 --- core.5.orig Mon Oct 2 18:20:20 2000 +++ core.5 Mon Oct 2 18:30:23 2000 @@ -76,6 +76,14 @@ .Em \&%N.core , yielding the traditional FreeBSD behaviour. .Pp +By default, a user or group process that changes its real or effective id +credential will not create a corefile. This behaviour can be changed by +setting the +.Xr sysctl 8 +variable +.Va kern.sugid_coredump +to a true value. +.Pp The core file consists of the .Fa u . area, whose size (in pages) is >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 18:39:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx7.port.ru (mx7.port.ru [194.67.23.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237C737B66C for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp12.access1.zetcom.net.ru ([212.34.50.173] helo=saratov73) by mx7.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #8) id 13gH3R-0005Kc-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2000 05:39:37 +0400 From: мЮДЕФДЮ йЮКХМХВЕМЙН To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: мЮ ЛНИ БГЦКЪД МЕОКНУНИ ЯОНЯНА Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 05:39:37 +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org сБЮФЮЕЛШЕ ЦНЯОНДЮ! еЯРЭ МЕОКНУНИ ЯОНЯНА ГЮПЮАНРЮРЭ ЙПСЦКСЧ ЯСЛЛС. я СЯКНБХЪЛХ ЛНФМН НГМЮЙНЛХРЭЯЪ МЮ ЯЮИРЕ: http://www.rmi.bos.ru/ _________________ оПНЯХЛ ОПНЫЕМХЪ, ЕЯКХ ДНЯРЮБХКХ бЮЛ МЕСДНАЯРБЮ. бЮЬ email АШК БГЪР Я ЩКЕЙРПНММНИ ДНЯЙХ НАЗЪБКЕМХИ. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Oct 2 22:59:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5E137B503 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e935x4G89115 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:59:04 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 14:59:04 +0900 Message-ID: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Doc Team Subject: current www building problem User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current web.mk has following target. .sgml.html: ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET} But if $SGMLNORM fails, broken ${.TARGET} is created. And if we type "make" again, it finishes successfully because ${.TARGET} is newer than ${.IMPSRC}. How should we do to remove ${.TARGET} if it fails? One idea is: .sgml.html: (${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET})\ || rm -f ${.TARGET} but it seems dirty... Does anyone have good idea? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 2:55:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mppsystems.com (mppsystems.com [208.210.148.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CC737B502 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mppsystems.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA44164; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:55:23 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:55:23 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard To: Alexander Langer Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: device hints in manpages Message-ID: <20001003045523.A43923@mppsystems.com> References: <20001001154038.A3341@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001001154038.A3341@cichlids.cichlids.com>; from alex@big.endian.de on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 03:40:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 03:40:38PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Hello! > > How are we going to document the hints-stuff in manpages? > > We have to replace many lines like this: > .Cd "device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 flags 0x4 iosiz 16384 iomem > 0xd8000" > > to something way more appreciate. > > Alex I brought this up at the time was made. I can't find any of the e-mail in my archives on the subject. Searching the mailing list archives may turn up something. I think I proposed something like: .Cd "device ed" .Cd "hints CONFIG.hints" .Cd hint.ed.0.at="isa" .Cd hint.ed.0.port="0x280" .Cd hint.ed.0.irq="10" .Cd hint.ed.0.maddr="0xd8000" etc... Then there should be a hints(4) manpage to describe the hints file format. The section 4 man pages that require hints should also xref this man page. I thought someone was following up on this, but apparently not. If you can't locate the message thread in the mailing list archives, let me know and I can probably dig it up. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mppsystems.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 4:20: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3991537B66D for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA17745; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 8F73B37B502; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001003111813.8F73B37B502@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 04:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: toga@puyo.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21724: man page is wrong in src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21724 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man page is wrong in src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 03 04:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: TOGAWA Satoshi >Release: 4-STABLE >Organization: PUYO Online Reactional Group >Environment: FreeBSD cel.sd.puyo.org 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #13: Sun Oct 1 18:02:46 JST 2000 togawa@cel.sd.puyo.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CEL i386 >Description: In src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 , there is a wrong word "RBG". I think it will be "RGB", because order of the data is "00000000 rrrrrrrr gggggggg bbbbbbbb". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4.orig Tue Oct 3 20:10:07 2000 --- src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 Tue Oct 3 20:10:15 2000 *************** *** 499,505 **** .It Dv METEOR_GEO_RGB16 RGB 16 bits xrrrrrgg gggbbbbb default) .It Dv METEOR_GEO_RGB24 ! (RBG 24 bits packed in 32 bits: 00000000 rrrrrrrr gggggggg bbbbbbbb) .It Dv METEOR_GEO_YUV_PACKED (4-2-2 YUV 16 bits packed. byte format: --- 499,505 ---- .It Dv METEOR_GEO_RGB16 RGB 16 bits xrrrrrgg gggbbbbb default) .It Dv METEOR_GEO_RGB24 ! (RGB 24 bits packed in 32 bits: 00000000 rrrrrrrr gggggggg bbbbbbbb) .It Dv METEOR_GEO_YUV_PACKED (4-2-2 YUV 16 bits packed. byte format: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 8:50:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f66.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E7A37B66D for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 08:50:51 -0700 Received: from 213.116.247.45 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:50:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.116.247.45] From: "Niklas Andersson" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hey Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:50:51 TJT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2000 15:50:51.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4852740:01C02D51] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hey, can i get an shell account on your server, i need it for IRc. Niklas Andersson _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 13:25:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E12937B502 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from holly.dyndns.org ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G1V0031QFAJJ8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:23:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22787; Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:24:50 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 15:24:50 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: hey In-reply-to: To: Niklas Andersson Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20001003152449.F867@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i References: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, October 03, 2000, Niklas Andersson wrote: > hey, can i get an shell account on your server, i need it for IRc. No. -- |Chris Costello |Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson `------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 18:42:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9553637B502 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13gdZa-000JZm-00; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 03:42:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:42:18 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: current www building problem Message-ID: <20001004034217.A75196@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 02:59:04PM +0900 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue 2000-10-03 (14:59), Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Current web.mk has following target. > > .sgml.html: > ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET} > > But if $SGMLNORM fails, broken ${.TARGET} is created. And if we type > "make" again, it finishes successfully because ${.TARGET} is newer > than ${.IMPSRC}. > > How should we do to remove ${.TARGET} if it fails? One idea is: > > .sgml.html: > (${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET})\ > || rm -f ${.TARGET} > > but it seems dirty... Does anyone have good idea? I've noticed this too (and boy is it irritating). One thing to consider - you must have ``|| (rm -f ${.TARGET}; exit 1)'', not ``|| rm -f ${.TARGET}'', or you'll just carry on going. I thought ``.PRECIOUS'' was supposed to solve this for you, but it doesn't look that way. If noone comes up with an alternative, I think we should just live with ugly. Cheers, Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 3 20:11:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mumba.junik.lv (mail.junik.lv [195.216.160.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5D37B502 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mik ([195.216.180.234]) by mumba.junik.lv (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA21228 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:11:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01c02db0$cb2138e0$eab4d8c3@bofh.lv> From: "Mike Gitarev" To: Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/ru/handbook/index.html Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:11:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, this link is broken. HTTP Error 404 - File not found. WBW, Mike Gitarev, BOFH Ltd. GSM (371)9503473 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 0: 8:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nexus.kotel.co.kr (nexus.kotel.co.kr [147.6.65.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2249337B66D for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kt.co.kr ([147.6.65.28]) by nexus.kotel.co.kr (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12) with ESMTP id e9478Kv06777 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:08:20 +0900 (KST) Message-ID: <39DAD789.4889046E@kt.co.kr> Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:08:57 +0900 From: Seungmo Choe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: About 3C980B NIC ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=EUC-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, In Supported Hardware List I found that 3C980/3C980B Fast Etherlink XL server adapter is supported. 1. Does it mean that VLAN feature of that NIC is also supported ? 2. Now 3Com is selling 3C980C model . Does FreeBSD support 3C980C? Regard, Seungmo Choe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 1:50:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6E937B66D for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 01:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA36449; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:49:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA46323; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:50:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:50:17 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Mike Gitarev Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/ru/handbook/index.html Message-ID: <20001004115017.A45182@ark.cris.net> References: <000d01c02db0$cb2138e0$eab4d8c3@bofh.lv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000d01c02db0$cb2138e0$eab4d8c3@bofh.lv>; from mik@actek.lv on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 05:11:07AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 05:11:07AM +0200, Mike Gitarev wrote: > Sorry, this link is broken. > HTTP Error 404 - File not found. Yeah, sure. Russian handbook does not exists on www.FreeBSD.org, becuase it is not translted yet. You can visit http://www.FreeBSD.org.ua/ for intermediate snapshot (work-in-progress) of russian translation of the handbook. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ /* Sysadmin/Developer && phantom@sms.umc.com.ua */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 2:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403A237B502 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 02:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e949fHG85053 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 18:41:18 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 18:41:17 +0900 Message-ID: <7mog11c5aa.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: current www building problem In-Reply-To: In your message of "Wed, 4 Oct 2000 03:42:18 +0200" <20001004034217.A75196@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001004034217.A75196@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.1.1 (Purple Rain) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 4 Oct 2000 01:42:32 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > One thing to consider - you must have ``|| (rm -f ${.TARGET}; exit 1)'', > not ``|| rm -f ${.TARGET}'', or you'll just carry on going. I thought > ``.PRECIOUS'' was supposed to solve this for you, but it doesn't look > that way. OK. Committed with modification. If you get an idea better than that, please use it. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 5:39:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.inwind.it (relay1.inwind.it [212.141.53.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3743837B503 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 05:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (62.98.154.111) by relay1.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39AFDC99004C28B3 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:39:32 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:40:23 GMT Message-ID: <20001004.13402300@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: little translation problems To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD English-speaking doc'ers, I am working on the translation of the handbook into Italian, and I am confused WRT the following expression (found in The Cutting Edge): "FreeBSD-CURRENT is made generally available for 3 primary interest groups:" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Here "primary interest groups" means: 1) primary groups of interested people; that is, three groups of interested people, each having specific (technical) interest(s); 2) groups of primary importance/interest, therefore the expression would mean "main groups"; 3) neither of 1) or 2) (??) Interpretation 1) seems more likely but I am not quite sure. Many thanks in advance, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 6:10: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774F037B66E for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA66450; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED42E37B503 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E87BDA842; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:06:22 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20001004130622.E87BDA842@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:06:22 +1100 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21750: Blank line in vr(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21750 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Blank line in vr(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 04 06:10:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: 4-STABLE cvsuped a few days ago. >Description: If you view vr(4) there is an erroneous blank line in the diagnostics section, in the 'vr%d: no memory for tx list' subsection just before 'chain into a cluster.'. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 vr >Fix: I can't see why it happens looking at the source for the man page. The subsection below doesn't have the problem and they look the same to me except the working one has a few arbitary line breaks. Adding line breaks didn't seem to help the problem though. I'm not an expert in nroff code so it may be something obvious...or perhaps its a bug in nroff itself? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 6:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E10C37B66C for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA74170; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010041330.GAA74170@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: andrew@ugh.net.au Subject: Re: docs/21750: Blank line in vr(4) Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21750; it has been noted by GNATS. From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/21750: Blank line in vr(4) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 23:29:44 +1000 (EST) Well it seems the problem only occurs in revision 1.6 and greater - 1.5 is fine. I can't see why though... Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 6:40:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5BB37B66C; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 06:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id PAA13629; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:40:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13golx-000471-00; Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:39:49 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:39:49 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MINI kernel config for recovery floppy in Handbook Message-ID: <20001004153948.B15635@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20000926224450.B6384@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000928131635.A704@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000928131635.A704@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 01:16:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 01:16:35PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 10:44:50PM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > I do not know what we should do. Maybe just warn the ppl that they should > > change the config and give them hints for that, or should we also include a > > 4.x version of the config file? > > Include a 4.x version, if you can write it. [Following up...] OK, I have completed a kernel config file for the 4.x branch. The patch is posted for review to the list as well because I am not (yet:-) a DocBook wizard. If you think this is fine, you can commit it, while you are at it:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="itt.diff" --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml.old Wed Oct 4 15:20:15 2000 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml Wed Oct 4 15:21:31 2000 @@ -572,6 +572,43 @@ # /sbin/umount /mnt echo "The floppy has been unmounted and is now ready."]]> + Note that the above script contains a config file for a + kernel in the FreeBSD 3.x-series. If you have a 4.x machine, + use this one instead: + +# +# MINI4x -- A kernel to get FreeBSD 4.x onto a floppy disk +# +machine i386 +cpu I486_CPU +ident MINI4x +maxusers 5 + +options INET +options FAT_CURSOR +options SCSI_DELAY=15000 +options NCONS=2 +options USERCONFIG + +device isa +device pci + +device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 +device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 + +device ncr +device scbus + +device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 +device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 + +device da +device sa + +pseudo-device loop #Req'ed by INET +pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.outs +# + --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 7:36:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2630C37B66F for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e94EUDI13529; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:30:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:28:58 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Salvo Bartolotta Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: little translation problems Message-ID: <20001004152858.A13499@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001004.13402300@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001004.13402300@bartequi.ottodomain.org>; from bartequi@inwind.it on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:40:23PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:40:23PM +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > I am working on the translation of the handbook into Italian, and I am > confused WRT the following expression (found in The Cutting Edge): > > "FreeBSD-CURRENT is made generally available for 3 primary interest > groups:" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^ > > Here "primary interest groups" means: > > 1) primary groups of interested people; that is, three groups of > interested people, each having specific (technical) interest(s); > > 2) groups of primary importance/interest, therefore the expression > would mean "main groups"; > > 3) neither of 1) or 2) (??) > > Interpretation 1) seems more likely but I am not quite sure. #1 is right. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 13:27:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0220E37B502 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 13:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA27614; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:26:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01264; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:26:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from w) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 22:26:23 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Doc Team Subject: Re: current www building problem Message-ID: <20001004222622.A1198@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 02:59:04PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-10-03 14:59:04 +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > Current web.mk has following target. > .sgml.html: > ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET} > > But if $SGMLNORM fails, broken ${.TARGET} is created. And if we type > "make" again, it finishes successfully because ${.TARGET} is newer > than ${.IMPSRC}. > > How should we do to remove ${.TARGET} if it fails? One idea is: > > .sgml.html: > (${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET})\ > || rm -f ${.TARGET} > > but it seems dirty... Does anyone have good idea? use a temp file and rename it to the target if successfully. .sgml.html: ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET}.tmp mv -f ${.TARGET}.tmp ${.TARGET} -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 15:32: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E7737B502 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13gx4n-000Lwh-00; Thu, 05 Oct 2000 00:31:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 00:31:49 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Jun Kuriyama , Doc Team Subject: Re: current www building problem Message-ID: <20001005003149.A84322@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001004222622.A1198@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001004222622.A1198@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from bsd@panke.de.freebsd.org on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 10:26:23PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-10-04 (22:26), Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 2000-10-03 14:59:04 +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > Current web.mk has following target. > > .sgml.html: > > ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET} > > > > But if $SGMLNORM fails, broken ${.TARGET} is created. And if we type > > "make" again, it finishes successfully because ${.TARGET} is newer > > than ${.IMPSRC}. > > > > How should we do to remove ${.TARGET} if it fails? One idea is: > > > > .sgml.html: > > (${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET})\ > > || rm -f ${.TARGET} > > > > but it seems dirty... Does anyone have good idea? > > use a temp file and rename it to the target if successfully. > > .sgml.html: > ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET}.tmp > mv -f ${.TARGET}.tmp ${.TARGET} If we do that, we need to add foo.html.tmp to CLEANFILES. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 4 16:30: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E833037B503 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA70893; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id F064137B66F; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001004232824.F064137B66F@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 16:28:24 -0700 (PDT) From: reed@reedmedia.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21762: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21762 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mailing list archiving or retrieval broken from "\nFrom lines" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Oct 04 16:30:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jeremy C. Reed >Release: NA >Organization: >Environment: NA >Description: The freebsd-questions archiving or retrieval routine is broken if a blank line is followed by "From and a space". The mail is sent okay; it is just not shown in its entirety via the getmsg.cgi routine. Here was my test message: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1319586+0+current/freebsd-questions Since it doesn't all exists... here is the rest of it. >How-To-Repeat: Send an email to a freebsd mailing list that has a blank line followed by a line starting with "From " (and followed by a space). And then check the archive. >Fix: I don't know. I have not looked at the getmsg.cgi routine. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: >From reed I believe that the archive will not reach this far down in the email. Check out http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html to see. Jeremy C. Reed http://www.reedmedia.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 7:10: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F0437B66D for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA90879; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id BF2F837B503; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001005140913.BF2F837B503@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: B.Candler@pobox.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21767: sample sshd_config errors for kerberos Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21767 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sample sshd_config errors for kerberos >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 05 07:10:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Brian Candler >Release: 4.1.1 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The supplied sample /etc/ssh/sshd_config has the line #KerberosAuthentication no This should read #Kerberos5Authentication no Same applies to "Kerberos[5]TgtPassing". The other Kerberos options (KerberosOrLocalPasswd, AFSTokenPassing, KerberosTicketCleanup) appear to be completely spurious. >How-To-Repeat: Uncomment 'KerberosAuthentication no', restart sshd, and watch it barf >Fix: See above >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 7:29:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A4737B502; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 07:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA77924; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:29:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:29:40 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Kurakin Roman Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Submiting new code Message-ID: <20001005102940.A77870@blackhelicopters.org> References: <39DC84E3.9DEF3F87@cronyx.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <39DC84E3.9DEF3F87@cronyx.ru>; from rik@cronyx.ru on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 05:40:51PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (copied to -doc for reasons which will become clear below) The FTP server no longer accepts uploads. Use uuencode and send-pr. Many people put code submissions up on a local web site and request comments on -current or -hackers before doing this. It makes the eventual code submission much more likely to be accepted. Docs folks, would one of you like to whack the offending statement from the Handbook? It looks like section 19.2.4 is the problem. (Of course, if we have a new FTP site, that would be good too. :) On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 05:40:51PM +0400, Kurakin Roman wrote: > Hi, > > How can I send a quite big submission of source code. Handbook > says that I should put big part of report in to > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming but I can't found it. > > Kurakin Roman > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 8:46:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hanoi.cronyx.ru (hanoi.cronyx.ru [144.206.181.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7621537B502; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cronyx.ru by hanoi.cronyx.ru with ESMTP id TAA03188; (8.9.3/vak/2.1) Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:54:52 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <39DCA3B7.E089F90D@cronyx.ru> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:52:23 +0400 From: Kurakin Roman Organization: Cronyx X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Submiting new code References: <39DC84E3.9DEF3F87@cronyx.ru> <20001005102940.A77870@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you. Michael Lucas wrote: > > (copied to -doc for reasons which will become clear below) > > The FTP server no longer accepts uploads. Use uuencode and send-pr. > > Many people put code submissions up on a local web site and request > comments on -current or -hackers before doing this. It makes the > eventual code submission much more likely to be accepted. > > Docs folks, would one of you like to whack the offending statement > from the Handbook? It looks like section 19.2.4 is the problem. (Of > course, if we have a new FTP site, that would be good too. :) > > On Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 05:40:51PM +0400, Kurakin Roman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > How can I send a quite big submission of source code. Handbook > > says that I should put big part of report in to > > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming but I can't found it. > > > > Kurakin Roman > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 10:47:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alloy.misa.ac.ru (ns.misa.ac.ru [193.232.119.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871FD37B503; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 10:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmkarpov.misa.ac.ru (DmKarpov.misa.ac.ru [193.232.119.188]) by alloy.misa.ac.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA01455; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:50:58 GMT (envelope-from Dmitry.Karpov@misa.ac.ru) Message-ID: <39DD5994.1C1A@misa.ac.ru> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:48:20 -0700 From: "Dmitry U. Karpov" Organization: Moscow Steel&Alloys Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: IPX router Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am reading HandBook and can't find the links to IPX features. Please, add links to IPX and/or send this links to me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 12:23:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F88D37B503 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 12:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id VAA00704; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:23:44 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13hGbl-0004lV-00 for ; Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:23:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:23:09 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook... yes, you guessed it. Message-ID: <20001005212308.A17642@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everybody! Welcome to our (sadly) regular column: "Breakin' the docs". Tonight the Handbook has been broken again, this time by brian almost 13 hours ago. The cause is a spurious tag, but the symptoms might be frightening to someone not in the know. Fix: Apply attached patch. Happy hacking! -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="book.diff" --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml.old Thu Oct 5 21:05:44 2000 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml Thu Oct 5 21:06:21 2000 @@ -2205,7 +2205,7 @@ Eric D. Futch efutch@nyct.net - + Eric J. Haug ejh@slustl.slu.edu --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 13:47:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E24137B503 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA27712; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:46:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA01562; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:46:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:46:18 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Wolfram Schneider , Jun Kuriyama , Doc Team Subject: Re: current www building problem Message-ID: <20001005224618.A1544@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <7maecmea8n.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <20001004222622.A1198@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> <20001005003149.A84322@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20001005003149.A84322@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 12:31:49AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-10-05 00:31:49 +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > > > but it seems dirty... Does anyone have good idea? > > > > use a temp file and rename it to the target if successfully. > > > > .sgml.html: > > ${PREHTML} ${PREHTMLFLAGS} ${.IMPSRC} |\ > > SGML_CATALOG_FILES='' ${SGMLNORM} ${SGMLNORMFLAGS} > ${.TARGET}.tmp > > mv -f ${.TARGET}.tmp ${.TARGET} > > If we do that, we need to add foo.html.tmp to CLEANFILES. yep. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 14:14:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (ancmail1.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C736937B503 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.47]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G1Z70Q00.F17 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:14:50 -0800 Message-ID: <39DCEF8A.C68CD678@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:15:54 -0800 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Pedantic PPP primer and ppp(8) man page missing important info? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I spent some frustrating hours at home a few nights ago trying to get ifconfig -a to show a tun interface (new install of 4.0 release). After coming to work, where I have internet access that works, I discovered from the mailing list archives that ppp has to be run for the tun interface to be created. Also the GENERIC kernel config has no numbers after the pseudo-device tun, which I interpreted to mean that a tun device was not being created. Even after changing this, and recompiling several kernels, I could not get past the stage of confirming the existence of a tun interface. My point in sending this to doc is that nowhere that I can find in the Pedantic PPP primer or the ppp or tun man pages is this detail about running ppp first even mentioned. There were tun devices listed under /dev. When both the primer and the man page mention confirming the creation of the tun device/interface by running ifconfig, it would seem to be important (IMO) to have this exception for 4.x branch to be in the documentation and man pages. If there is some source of information on the specifics of this change in behavior or some way I could help make this change to the docs happen, I would be really happy to contribute. Thank you for time. Currently I am not subscribed to the documentation mailing list, but I can be reached at either of these addresses: brian_raynes@dnr.state.ak.us or lbpuppy@alaska.net <--(prefer this one) Brian Raynes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 14:34:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ancmail1.state.ak.us (ancmail1.state.ak.us [146.63.92.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7A937B502 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dnr.state.ak.us ([146.63.110.47]) by ancmail1.state.ak.us (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G1Z7XQ00.50Y; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 13:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: <39DCF42D.EE9E7984@dnr.state.ak.us> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 13:35:41 -0800 From: Brian Raynes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pedantic PPP primer and ppp(8) man page missing important info? References: <39DCEF8A.C68CD678@dnr.state.ak.us> <14812.61559.149027.165594@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, October 5, Brian Raynes wrote: ] > > > > Also the GENERIC kernel config has no numbers after the pseudo-device > > tun, which I interpreted to mean that a tun device was not being > > created. Even after changing this, and recompiling several kernels, I > > could not get past the stage of confirming the existence of a tun > > interface. > > not that it helps your specific problem very much, but I believe in the > RELENG_4 branch a simple "tun" psuedo-device will suffice and the code will > generate as many as it needs. A lot of the other psuedo-devices work this way > too. I think that's a great feature, if only there was some mention of it in the appropriate docs and man pages. Not only does the current documentation not mention this feature, but it still indicates the old behavior - which is even a worse problem :<. Thanks for the fast response - these volunteer support mechanisms still amaze me constantly :). > > But yeah, you're absolutely right. Before I moved over to broadband service, > getting PPP to do what I wanted was a couple of frustrating nights .... > > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 16:12: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE45937B503 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 16:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13hKAt-000PE2-00; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 01:11:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:11:39 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Szilveszter Adam Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook... yes, you guessed it. Message-ID: <20001006011139.A96925@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20001005212308.A17642@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001005212308.A17642@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu>; from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:23:09PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 2000-10-05 (21:23), Szilveszter Adam wrote: > Hi everybody! > > Welcome to our (sadly) regular column: "Breakin' the docs". > Tonight the Handbook has been broken again, this time by brian almost 13 > hours ago. The cause is a spurious tag, but the symptoms might be > frightening to someone not in the know. Ouch, yeah, I saw the lint message. Scary (: I've fixed it now, thanks for the report! Cheers, Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 18:14:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0E537B502 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e961ESi23446; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e961C3O42929; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001004.13402300@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Salvo Bartolotta Subject: RE: little translation problems Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Oct-00 Salvo Bartolotta wrote: > Dear FreeBSD English-speaking doc'ers, > > I am working on the translation of the handbook into Italian, and I am > confused WRT the following expression (found in The Cutting Edge): > > "FreeBSD-CURRENT is made generally available for 3 primary interest > groups:" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^ Ugh, this is too wordy and confusing to native English speakers. :) I would reword it to say this: FreeBSD-CURRENT is useful for 3 main groups: > Here "primary interest groups" means: > > 1) primary groups of interested people; that is, three groups of > interested people, each having specific (technical) interest(s); > > 2) groups of primary importance/interest, therefore the expression > would mean "main groups"; > > 3) neither of 1) or 2) (??) It means 2) as best as I can read it. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 20:44:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from alaska.net (kitsune.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FE137B503 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [209.112.158.250] (250-pm32.nwc.alaska.net [209.112.158.250]) by alaska.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA01122 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:44:30 -0800 (AKDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:40:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Pedantic PPP primer and ppp(8) man page missing important info? From: Brian Raynes To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39DCF42D.EE9E7984@dnr.state.ak.us> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org on 10/5/00 1:35 PM, Brian Raynes at brian_raynes@dnr.state.ak.us wrote: > John Reynolds~ wrote: >> >> [ On Thursday, October 5, Brian Raynes wrote: ] >>> >>> Also the GENERIC kernel config has no numbers after the pseudo-device >>> tun, which I interpreted to mean that a tun device was not being >>> created. Even after changing this, and recompiling several kernels, I >>> could not get past the stage of confirming the existence of a tun >>> interface. >> >> not that it helps your specific problem very much, but I believe in the >> RELENG_4 branch a simple "tun" psuedo-device will suffice and the code will >> generate as many as it needs. A lot of the other psuedo-devices work this way >> too. > > I think that's a great feature, if only there was some mention of it > in the appropriate docs and man pages. Not only does the current > documentation not mention this feature, but it still indicates the old > behavior - which is even a worse problem :<. I guess I have to take part of that back. There is a note in the most current version of the handbook. The version I have printed out has been since 4.1 release, but it didn't yet have this. Still it's there, even though most of that section still describes the pre 4.x behavior. Brian Raynes > Thanks for the fast response - these volunteer support mechanisms > still amaze me constantly :). > >> >> But yeah, you're absolutely right. Before I moved over to broadband service, >> getting PPP to do what I wanted was a couple of frustrating nights .... >> >> -Jr >> >> -- >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | >> | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | >> | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 5 22: 4: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2A037B66C for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp248.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.248]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e9653Ji28294; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:03:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001003045523.A43923@mppsystems.com> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:03:33 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: device hints in manpages Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Alexander Langer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Oct-00 Mike Pritchard wrote: > On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 03:40:38PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: >> Hello! >> >> How are we going to document the hints-stuff in manpages? >> >> We have to replace many lines like this: >> .Cd "device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 flags 0x4 iosiz 16384 iomem >> 0xd8000" >> >> to something way more appreciate. >> >> Alex > > I brought this up at the time was made. I can't find any of the > e-mail in my archives on the subject. Searching the mailing list > archives may turn up something. > > I think I proposed something like: > > .Cd "device ed" > .Cd "hints CONFIG.hints" Err, I wouldn't stick this line in the manpages, as the preferred method is to use dynamic hints from /boot/device.hints that are machine-specific, not kernel-specific. :) This would be better documented in the hints(4) manpage as a separate line item about static hints vs. dynamic hints. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 5:18:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (p3E9C112B.dip.t-dialin.net [62.156.17.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A4937B66E for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E5AB9C for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:19:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71B3414A9B; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:18:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:18:25 +0200 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/texts/i386 RELNOTES.TXT Message-ID: <20001006141825.F1630@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200010031542.IAA65780@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200010031542.IAA65780@freefall.freebsd.org>; from sos@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 08:42:38AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake SЬren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org): > Modified files: > release/texts/i386 RELNOTES.TXT > Log: > We do not support RLL/MFM/ESDI controllers... > Revision Changes Path > 1.120 +0 -2 src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT Can the RELNOTES.TXT plese at least have a $Date$ Id? Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 5:39:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC4937B502; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA08840; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200010061239.FAA08840@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andrew@ugh.net.au, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21750: Blank line in vr(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Blank line in vr(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Oct 6 05:37:22 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Fixed by ``mysterious blank lines'' -mdoc fix. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21750 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 10:24:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06DD37B502 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e96HO8Z76913; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200010061724.e96HO8Z76913@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/texts/i386 RELNOTES.TXT In-Reply-To: <20001006141825.F1630@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200010031542.IAA65780@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001006141825.F1630@cichlids.cichlids.com> Comments: In-reply-to alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) message dated "Fri, 06 Oct 2000 14:18:25 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-20794168P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:24:08 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-20794168P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If memory serves me right, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake SЬren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org): > > > Modified files: > > release/texts/i386 RELNOTES.TXT > > Log: > > We do not support RLL/MFM/ESDI controllers... > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.120 +0 -2 src/release/texts/i386/RELNOTES.TXT > > Can the RELNOTES.TXT plese at least have a $Date$ Id? I don't have any objections. In fact, maybe we ought to just put a regular $FreeBSD$ keyword somewhere in this file. It makes things easier for people editing release notes also; frequently I have four different emacs [1] buffers open for files named "RELNOTES.TXT". Is there any specific reason not to put a $FreeBSD$ keyword in? Bruce. [1] Yeah, so sue me. --==_Exmh_-20794168P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE53gq42MoxcVugUsMRAnQCAJ4zWlWkbA9iA7B5yskaHnNNJRRVWgCg/ndW t44bVEej8eTCqZxcOvx5xPc= =fpdQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-20794168P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 10:47:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CCA37B66C; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl03.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13hbal-00087q-00; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:47:31 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.156.17.43]) by fmrl03.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13hbaW-1tDVZYC; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:47:16 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028C9AB9D; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:48:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 77A3C14B27; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:47:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:47:16 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: device hints in manpages Message-ID: <20001006194716.A71829@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20001006155051.A29063@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 09:24:24AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.org): > > What happend to the old `flags' keyword, btw? > You can set flags as hints now. Look in GENERIC.hints at sio0 for > an example. Hmm, I searched for "flags" in the hints file before I wrote this, but I failed :-) Hmm. And how are we going to document the flags for drivers in the SYNOPSIS? Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 10:53:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C537B66C for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (ether.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.196]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e96Hrai45428; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:53:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20001006194716.A71829@cichlids.cichlids.com> Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Alexander Langer Subject: Re: device hints in manpages Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Oct-00 Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.org): > >> > What happend to the old `flags' keyword, btw? >> You can set flags as hints now. Look in GENERIC.hints at sio0 for >> an example. > > Hmm, I searched for "flags" in the hints file before I wrote this, but > I failed :-) > > Hmm. And how are we going to document the flags for drivers in the > SYNOPSIS? hints.foo.X.flags = 0xYY Just do it like we already do it. See sio(4), syscons(4), and wd(4) for some examples. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 6 10:58:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC9237B66C; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl00.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13hbl0-0000AO-00; Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:58:06 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.156.17.43]) by fmrl00.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13hbkw-0dLuxEC; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:58:02 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ED8AB9C; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:59:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 313F514B27; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:58:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:58:01 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: device hints in manpages Message-ID: <20001006195801.B71829@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20001006194716.A71829@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 10:53:54AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake John Baldwin (jhb@FreeBSD.org): > > Hmm. And how are we going to document the flags for drivers in the > > SYNOPSIS? > hints.foo.X.flags = 0xYY > Just do it like we already do it. See sio(4), syscons(4), and wd(4) > for some examples. No :-) I meant, if we use the .Cd macro for that. But I guess so, since we also use that for options and similar lines. 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 ------=_NextPart_000_0D92_01C03038.A41DEBA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 12:14:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.inwind.it (relay1.inwind.it [212.141.53.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0563F37B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 12:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (62.98.162.211) by relay1.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39DD783D0002E2A4 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:14:39 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 20:15:37 GMT Message-ID: <20001007.20153700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Incorrect expression in handbook. Possible solutions (?) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD doc'ers, While I was reading "The Cutting-Edge"(tm), I ran into the following expression:
This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep your system up-to-date with each respective tree.
^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ The adjective "respective", which is used to premodify a noun phrase in order to indicate segregatory interpretation of a preceding conjoint noun phrase, requires a **plural** noun head. Possible replacements: "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep your system up-to-date with each tree [respectively]." Here the "conjoint" (~ coordinated) noun phrase seems to be implicit: "This section will explain a bit about each (of them: ie -STABLE and -CURRENT, considered individually) and describe how to keep your system up-to-date with each tree (STABLE and CURRENT, considered individually)." This would suggest either using "respectively" or omitting the segregatory adverb. I seem to understand that a segregatory meaning is already expressed; which would probably make "respectively" redundant. However, I am not quite sure that the sentence is fully correct: your system -->(?) each tree [respectively]. "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep a -CURRENT or -STABLE system up-to-date." "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep your system up-to-date, whether you choose to run the former or the latter. HTH, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 14:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3436137B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA17267; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id D884F37B503; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20001007213237.D884F37B503@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: bdluevel@heitec.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21826 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Oct 07 14:40:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Bernd Luevelsmeyer >Release: 4.1.1-STABLE >Organization: Heitec AG >Environment: FreeBSD tostan.admin.er.heitec.net 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #7: Thu Oct 5 16:59:38 CEST 2000 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/TOSTAN i386 >Description: Wanting to set up an "arp proxy", I remembered to have seen an entry "arpproxy_all" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. I couldn't find how to use it though, all I found was "If set to YES then enable global proxy ARP" in rc.conf(5). Looking for the sysctl variable "net.link.ether.inet.proxyall" didn't reveal much either, nor did reading about related topics such as arp(8), bridge(4) and others. Experimenting with various combinations of "arp -s" and gateway settings was not successfull. As a consequence, I'm sure an ARP proxy can be set up somehow on FreeBSD but I fail to find out how it's done. >How-To-Repeat: Read handbook, FAQ, man pages, and try to find how to make a FreeBSD machine act as a ARP proxy. >Fix: I request that the rc.conf manpage be enhanced for "arpproxy_all", or that a chapter in the handbook be devoted to the arp proxy topic. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 15:40: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A73C37B66C for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA38990; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010072240.PAA38990@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Reply-To: Brooks Davis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brooks Davis To: bdluevel@heitec.net Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:39:41 -0700 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 02:32:37PM -0700, bdluevel@heitec.net wrote: > Wanting to set up an "arp proxy", I remembered to have seen an entry > "arpproxy_all" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. Depending on what you want to accomplish, the choparp port may do what you want. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 15:49:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.win.net (ns1.win.net [216.24.27.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F9937B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from carlton.win.net (usr-tc-04-029.win.net [216.24.8.29]) (authenticated) by ns1.win.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e97MnQ174911 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39DFA989.1CEDDACD@carlton.win.net> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 18:54:02 -0400 From: "Kris M. Carlton" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 15:52:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.inwind.it (relay2.inwind.it [212.141.53.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A73C37B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bartequi.ottodomain.org (62.98.162.217) by relay2.inwind.it (5.1.046) id 39CB0979002D963D for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:52:26 +0200 From: Salvo Bartolotta Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 23:53:22 GMT Message-ID: <20001007.23532200@bartequi.ottodomain.org> Subject: Re: Incorrect expression in handbook. Possible solutions (?) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20001007.20153700@bartequi.ottodomain.org> X-Mailer: SuperCalifragilis X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10/7/00, 9:15:37 PM, Salvo Bartolotta wrote regarding Incorrect expression in handbook. Possible solutions (?): > Dear FreeBSD doc'ers, > While I was reading "The Cutting-Edge"(tm), I ran into the following > expression: >
> This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep > your system up-to-date with each respective tree. >
^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^^^ > The adjective "respective", which is used to premodify a noun phrase > in order to indicate segregatory interpretation of a preceding > conjoint noun phrase, requires a **plural** noun head. Possible > replacements: > > "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep > your system up-to-date with each tree [respectively]." > Here the "conjoint" (~ coordinated) noun phrase seems to be implicit: > "This section will explain a bit about each (of them: ie -STABLE and > -CURRENT, considered individually) and describe how to keep your > system up-to-date with each tree (STABLE and CURRENT, considered > individually)." > This would suggest either using "respectively" or omitting the > segregatory adverb. I seem to understand that a segregatory meaning is= > already expressed; which would probably make "respectively" redundant.= > However, I am not quite sure that the sentence is fully correct: your > system -->(?) each tree [respectively]. > > > "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep a= > -CURRENT or -STABLE system up-to-date." > > > "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep > your system up-to-date, whether you choose to run the former or the > latter. > I am sorry, but I have to reply to myself *sigh* "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to [correctly] perform an updating process in each case". "This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep [your system (?)] up-to-date in each case. In the last workaround, I am not quite sure that the sentence containing "your system" is perfectly correct. Maybe I am splitting hairs, here. HTH, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 18:10: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1567A37B502 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA99131; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010080110.SAA99131@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Reply-To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer To: Brooks Davis Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 03:07:22 +0200 Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 02:32:37PM -0700, bdluevel@heitec.net wrote: > > Wanting to set up an "arp proxy", I remembered to have seen an entry > > "arpproxy_all" in /etc/defaults/rc.conf. > > Depending on what you want to accomplish, the choparp port may do what > you want. Thanks. I tried that already, to no avail. The gateway answered ARP requests as intended but didn't forward the traffic, just as with 'arp -s'. Hence, the documentation issue about the /etc/rc.conf feature "arpproxy_all" remains. Greetings, Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 18:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2E737B502 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA66833; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010080130.SAA66833@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Reply-To: Brooks Davis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brooks Davis To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 18:26:34 -0700 On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:07:22AM +0200, Bernd Luevelsmeyer wrote: > Thanks. I tried that already, to no avail. The gateway answered ARP > requests as intended but didn't forward the traffic, just as with 'arp > -s'. > Hence, the documentation issue about the /etc/rc.conf feature > "arpproxy_all" remains. Err, what do you want to do? ARP proxying is just to allow a gateway to lie to hosts who's idea of network layout doesn't match reality. The gateway must handle packet forwarding seperatly. Clearly this needs to be documented, but I'm not sure you're looking for the right thing. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 20:20:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C5437B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA43992; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 20:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010080320.UAA43992@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Reply-To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bernd Luevelsmeyer To: Brooks Davis Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 05:14:12 +0200 Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 03:07:22AM +0200, Bernd Luevelsmeyer wrote: > > Thanks. I tried that already, to no avail. The gateway answered ARP > > requests as intended but didn't forward the traffic, just as with 'arp > > -s'. > > Hence, the documentation issue about the /etc/rc.conf feature > > "arpproxy_all" remains. > > Err, what do you want to do? ARP proxying is just to allow a gateway to > lie to hosts who's idea of network layout doesn't match reality. The > gateway must handle packet forwarding seperatly. Yes, essentially by having several interfaces and setting "gateway_enable" in /etc/rc.conf . Initially, I thought I'd get what I want by setting both "gateway_enable" and "arpproxy_all" to "YES". Then I realized I'd somehow have to configure which addresses I wanted to have proxied, and thought I could do that with "arp -s" commands in /etc/rc.local . With these three simple steps, me thought, I could get things handled quite easily. > Clearly this needs to be documented, but I'm not sure you're looking for > the right thing. I wanted this thing: The gateway should announce the machines on its "inner" interface to the "outer" interface, so that, from the outside, the gateway would appear to have all the inner addresses itself. So, the gateway would receive all the traffic that was intended for the "inner" machines, and it should then forward the packages to the really intended "inner" machines. The matter is, I couldn't get this to work. I could get the arp proxy functionality, or the gateway functionality; but not both at the same time. As soon as the proxy-arping was working, the machine wouldn't forward the traffic from the outside to the inside any more. I used 'arp -s' commands to set up the arp proxy. I also tried 'choparp', but only shortly. I concentrated on 'arp -s' and the "arpproxy_all" variable in /etc/rc.conf , because I wouldn't want to trust a port if the system has the functionality by itself already. I assume an arp proxy on a gateway is possible. Since the arp proxy features of FreeBSD are not documented at all (except for a short sentence in rc.conf(5)), I assume that I didn't get it right because of a docu lack. Hence, the PR about lacking documentation. Please see the thread "arp proxy" in freebsd-questions, where Christ J. Clark does his best to help me. His "no docs on a sysctl switch! *SHOCK*" gave me the idea of creating the PR btw.. Greetings, Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 7 22: 0:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC8137B503 for ; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA66193; Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200010080500.WAA66193@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Reply-To: Brooks Davis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21826; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brooks Davis To: Bernd Luevelsmeyer Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 21:56:22 -0700 On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 05:14:12AM +0200, Bernd Luevelsmeyer wrote: > I wanted this thing: The gateway should announce the machines on its > "inner" interface to the "outer" interface, so that, from the outside, > the gateway would appear to have all the inner addresses itself. So, the > gateway would receive all the traffic that was intended for the "inner" > machines, and it should then forward the packages to the really intended > "inner" machines. I've got a version of that set up at home. You can definatly do it with choparp. Assuming the addresses you want to proxy are in a block which could theoreticaly be subnetted (i.e. properly aligned and sized) then you can do this fairly easily. I've got a setup where I've got 16 IPs within a /24 subnet from my ISP. I simply configured my box with the outside interface set up like normal on the /24 net and the inside interface on the /28 net consisting of my IP addresses. I then use choparp to proxy the entire /28 subnet on the outside interface. With forwarding enabled my other hosts think they are on a /28 subnet and everything just works. > Please see the thread "arp proxy" in freebsd-questions, where Christ J. > Clark does his best to help me. His "no docs on a sysctl switch! > *SHOCK*" gave me the idea of creating the PR btw.. I don't read -questions. My pain tolerance isn't that high. ;-) I did dig your message up on Geo Crawler and it looks like your situation is virtualy identical to mine so choparp should do it. If you're addresses aren't aligned, then you're may have to do some weird things, but it should be possiable to make it work. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. 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