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whoa!! hold on...

  I know it's not a winmodem.  If you can.. don't even use plug n play, just 
stick to the jumpers.  Also, do like some guy said earlier on the list:
cd /dev
sh ./MAKEDEV all (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

Also, I've noticed in your dmesg you got something goofy going on with your 
HD. You should get that resolved.  Also, throw this into your kernel source:

options         "CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU"
options         "CPU_WT_ALLOC"

this outta speed things up a little on your 5x86-133MHz pentium-wannbe CPU.  
I can talk crap about it because I had 4-8 of them at one time  :P


-cosmic-665

>Hello,
>     This is *not* a winmodem, please do not tell me it is, I know it is 
>not.
>I'm trying to get my usr 56k data/fax internal pnp modem working under
>freebsd 3.4-release. This modem *does work under linux, therefor it is *not
>a winmodem. I have followed all the necessary steps to get it working
>including compiling in the modem's id in to sio.c, the modem shows up with
>dmesg, see below, and I've also got a pnp line in my kernel.conf file, also
>see below, yet my modem is still not working. Suggestions welcome.
>Thanks.
>Dave.
>Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc.
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>FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #4: Thu Mar  2 03:59:26 EST 2000
>     root@dave.davemehler.tzo.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/DAVE
>Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
>CPU: AMD Am5x86 Write-Through (486-class CPU)
>   Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x4e4  Stepping = 4
>   Features=0x1<FPU>
>real memory  = 50331648 (49152K bytes)
>config> pnp 1 0 enable os port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5
>config> pnp 2 0 enable os port0 0x2e8 irq0 2
>config> pnp 1 1 enable os port0 0x170 port1 0x376 irq0 15
>config> en matcd0
>No such device: matcd0
>Invalid command or syntax.  Type `?' for help.
>config> q
>avail memory = 46219264 (45136K bytes)
>Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02af000.
>Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02af09c.
>Probing for PnP devices:
>CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL002b [0x2b008c0e] Serial 0x1008505d Comp ID: PNP0600
>[0x0006d041]
>CSN 2 Vendor ID: USR3030 [0x30307256] Serial 0xaebc8fb4 Comp ID: @@@0000
>[0x00000000]
>Probing for devices on the ISA bus:
>sc0 on isa
>sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
>atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard
>atkbd0 irq 1 on isa
>psm0 not found
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>sio1: type 16450
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>sio3: type 16550A
>fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
>fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
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>wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): <NEC                 CD-ROM DRIVE:272/4.15>,
>removable, iordy
>acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 256KB cache
>acd0: supported read types: CD-DA
>acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels
>acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray
>acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked
>wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa
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>ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa
>ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
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>ppi0: <generic parallel i/o> on ppbus 0
>1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300
>ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa
>ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:14:10:bb
>vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa
>npx0 on motherboard
>npx0: INT 16 interface
>sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa
>snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.13>
>sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa
>snd0: <SoundBlaster 16 4.13>
>sbmidi0 not found at 0x388
>IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding
>disabled, unlimited logging
>IP Filter: initialized.  Default = pass all, Logging = enabled
>changing root device to wd0s2a
>wd0s1: raw partition size != slice size
>wd0s1: start 63, end 1262015, size 1261953
>wd0s1c: start 63, end 2499839, size 2499777
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>wd0s1: rejecting partition in BSD label: it isn't entirely within the slice
>wd0s1: start 63, end 1262015, size 1261953
>wd0s1f: start 350511, end 2499839, size 2149329
>pnp 2 0 port0 0x2e8 irq0 5
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I'd just like to throw out there the fact that some of
us DO have SB Live's. I'd write the driver port
myself, but I know next to nothing about divers in
general, though I DO know C++. An added bonus would be
some sort of configuration utility to go along with
the driver, so we can do the surround sound thing.
That's my biggest reason for wanting the driver. I
mean, I could always go get one of those SB16 PCI's,
but that wouldn't have what I want. Anyway, sorry for
making demands, but i just find it strange that a card
from such a well known sound company as Creative isn't
supported YET. :P

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On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 02:00:14PM -0800, Eaglez wrote:
> I'd just like to throw out there the fact that some of
> us DO have SB Live's. I'd write the driver port
> myself, but I know next to nothing about divers in
> general, though I DO know C++. An added bonus would be
> some sort of configuration utility to go along with
> the driver, so we can do the surround sound thing.
> That's my biggest reason for wanting the driver. I
> mean, I could always go get one of those SB16 PCI's,
> but that wouldn't have what I want. Anyway, sorry for
> making demands, but i just find it strange that a card
> from such a well known sound company as Creative isn't
> supported YET. :P

Creative Labs is also well know for refusing to cooperate with people
wanting to write drivers.  I believe support is in the works, but all
we've got to go on is a Linux driver.  It's not like surround sound is
going to do you any good without applications that use it.

-- Brooks

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Eaglez wrote:
> 
> I'd just like to throw out there the fact that some of
> us DO have SB Live's.

	This is well known. The archives are full of discussion about this
card. For future reference you will get nowhere with this kind of post.
:) We all know the issues. The reason this card isn't supported yet is
because SB won't release the specs. 

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So, shouldn't all of us with one or more of these cards write one or more
letters to Creative Labs?  (hint, hint) :)

Dave

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Doug Barton wrote:

> Eaglez wrote:
> > 
> > I'd just like to throw out there the fact that some of
> > us DO have SB Live's.
> 
> 	This is well known. The archives are full of discussion about this
> card. For future reference you will get nowhere with this kind of post.
> :) We all know the issues. The reason this card isn't supported yet is
> because SB won't release the specs. 
> 
> Doug



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fbsd-dave wrote:
> 
> So, shouldn't all of us with one or more of these cards write one or more
> letters to Creative Labs?  (hint, hint) :)

	By all means. Just be polite and professional.

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Creative Labs Isn't about to change their attitude on anything.  I suggest 
using a different card altogether.  Creative Labs (for years) wouldn't give 
out any more drivers or support to OS/2 (I'm an ex-OS/2 user :P).  Their 
attitude will be the same with FreeBSD.  Like someone said earlier on this 
post, "Linux is all we have to go on".  Linux is all the support we can 
expect.  And assume that creative will only side with a company like Red-Hat 
under linux and limit their drivers specifically to that company and 
version!  This kinda sucks because the market is beginning to turn into a 
open-source nightmare!!  Especially if drivers turn into module-only drivers 
with no source code (remeber, a device driver doesn't have to be 
open-source)  I think that's why creative won't release info.

-cosmic-665

>fbsd-dave wrote:
> >
> > So, shouldn't all of us with one or more of these cards write one or 
>more
> > letters to Creative Labs?  (hint, hint) :)
>
>	By all means. Just be polite and professional.
>
>Doug
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I'm beginning to see the picture... I'm guessing the
way it was ported to linux was via a kernel module, or
something, or else we'd have the source. 

Anyway, i guess i'm just going to go get another
card... I know supposedly SB PCI cards are supported,
atleast in the newpcm in 4.0-current. Does that
include the PCI 128/512 etc? I saw you can get those
for like $35 now.

And then i'll probably put together an old POS windows
system, with the Live, for playing mp3s and DVD's :P

In any case, thanks for the responces :)

--- Cosmic 665 <the_hermit665@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Creative Labs Isn't about to change their attitude
> on anything.  I suggest 
> using a different card altogether.  Creative Labs
> (for years) wouldn't give 
> out any more drivers or support to OS/2 (I'm an
> ex-OS/2 user :P).  Their 
> attitude will be the same with FreeBSD.  Like
> someone said earlier on this 
> post, "Linux is all we have to go on".  Linux is all
> the support we can 
> expect.  And assume that creative will only side
> with a company like Red-Hat 
> under linux and limit their drivers specifically to
> that company and 
> version!  This kinda sucks because the market is
> beginning to turn into a 
> open-source nightmare!!  Especially if drivers turn
> into module-only drivers 
> with no source code (remeber, a device driver
> doesn't have to be 
> open-source)  I think that's why creative won't
> release info.
> 
> -cosmic-665
> 
> >fbsd-dave wrote:
> > >
> > > So, shouldn't all of us with one or more of
> these cards write one or 
> >more
> > > letters to Creative Labs?  (hint, hint) :)
> >
> >	By all means. Just be polite and professional.
> >
> >Doug
> >--
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> >
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> >
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On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 07:55:21PM -0800, Eaglez wrote:
> Anyway, i guess i'm just going to go get another
> card... I know supposedly SB PCI cards are supported,
> atleast in the newpcm in 4.0-current. Does that
> include the PCI 128/512 etc? I saw you can get those
> for like $35 now.

I've got an SB PCI128 that works quite well.  It's not perfect, but I'm
pretty happy with it.  You can get them for as little at $21 (see
shopper.com).

-- Brooks

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Hello!

Can anyone recommend inexpensive tape changer (SCSI, of course) for FreeBSD? 

I just never had any experiences wiht changers, and don't know what
particular changers will/wont work.

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Hello!

As far as I've heard, Oki 4w was connected to Linux and forced to work; does
anyone know about any (un)successful attempts to bind Oki 6w to FreeBSD?

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Hi,

Does anyone have a list of old IDE bus transfer speeds?  In
particular, I'd like to know what the bus transfer speed was on a
typical system in 1991 (33MHz 386, 128MB HDD, etc.).

Note I'm asking for bus transfer speed, not what the disk can do.
(The answer is "160MB/s" for the fastest SCSI today, for instance.)

TIA!

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The typical maximum throughput of an IDE controller in a PC-AT in those
days was about 3-5 MB/s.  I'm not sure which IDE modes were in use back
then, and what their maximum burst transfer rates where, but if you really
need this you might be able to find it at http://www.ata-atapi.com/
or http://www.t13.org/.  The T13 web site has the last revision of each
draft specification, which is a pretty accurate reflection of the
actual standard.  You can check the document release dates to see what
was in use in 1991.

Allen

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> [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Satoshi Asami
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> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have a list of old IDE bus transfer speeds?  In
> particular, I'd like to know what the bus transfer speed was on a
> typical system in 1991 (33MHz 386, 128MB HDD, etc.).
> 
> Note I'm asking for bus transfer speed, not what the disk can do.
> (The answer is "160MB/s" for the fastest SCSI today, for instance.)
> 
> TIA!
> 
> Satoshi
> 
> 
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The changers I've used supported standard SCSI tape changer commands and
were nearly equivalent as far as implementation was concerned. If it's a
changer, and it's SCSI, you should be okay as far as 'nix compatibility is
concerned, AFAIK. (Has anyone seen a non-SCSI changer?) However, price and
dependability are almost proportional. I'll swear on DLT, and _at_ DAT
long after the rest of my hairs go grey. I tried numerous manufacturers
and models of DAT since it intro'd through late DDS2, (lots of drives &
mfgs.) and none were stable enough for daily production use. DLT however
has been flawless. Really. Not a single tape/drive failure in ~2.5yrs. But
yes, they cost more. (If you're just looking for a few drives, check ebay.
New and used DLTs sell there for great prices.)

I'd love to hear experiences with production use of modern 8mm or even
non-DAT 4mm.

To throw in a curve, a hybrid tape/IDE disk backup solution can work well,
especially with limited budgets. IDE drives are quickly approaching $5/GB,
and they're faster than any tape. Combine cheaper tapes and disks with
some kind of epoch/incremental strategy and you can sometimes cheat the
changer pricing gods. Depends on your needs of course.

Hope you don't mind me throwing in a small rant, but don't forget to plan
your backups. Too few admins really think about what should be backed up,
or when, and instead rely on cheap tape. The plan and the media go hand in
hand; neither do well on their own.

Dave

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Alex Povolotsky wrote:

> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 20:13:45 +0300
> From: Alex Povolotsky <tarkhil@over.ru>
> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
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> 
> Hello!
> 
> Can anyone recommend inexpensive tape changer (SCSI, of course) for FreeBSD? 
> 
> I just never had any experiences wiht changers, and don't know what
> particular changers will/wont work.
> 
> Alex.
> 
> 
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Hello,
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>Does anyone have a list of old IDE bus transfer speeds?  In
>particular, I'd like to know what the bus transfer speed was on a
>typical system in 1991 (33MHz 386, 128MB HDD, etc.).

Hi!

Well, did some tests those days myself, and found out that the ISA bus
should have had a spec about 3,5 MBytes/second (as far as I remember), but
other components sucked something away from that part being available to
bus transfers) Cheap ISA controller cards did an additional slowing.

You surely target to those PIO modes later introduced, with PIO 4 doing a
theoretical of 16 MB/sec?

In practical use, I once benchmarked the 486/33 ISA of my cousin, which had
a standard multi-I/O-card in, with a 540 MB HDD, so enough power behind.
That beast did not come about 1 MB/sec in that combo.
(used cthdbench from german c't mag- very good prog for quick tests)
HDD was able to transfer about 3 MB/sec on actual controllers.

On my '93 368-40 with 130 MB, I had peak rates of 900 kb/sec, but limited
by the HDD.
Bus speed there was sure a bit above 1 MB, but depending on controller
quality/chipset quality...

Regards
Olaf Hoyer
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The other day, I posted a message about my Linksys card not working with the
new dc driver in 4.0, but it works fine with 3.4 and the tulip driver in
linux.  A suggestion was that I check to see if the card was bad.  I've went
back and checked, and again, it works fine in 3.4.  So somethings not
supporting this particular card, in the new driver.  However, I have tried a
different physical card, but it gets reported identically in dmesg as far as
I can tell :

dc0: <LC82C115 PNIC II 10/100BaseTX> port 0xde00-0xdeff mem
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This different card works flawlessly with both 'pn' and 'dc'  I can't even
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and purpses don't function the same, but again, I repeat, this is a good,
functioning card.  The _only_ driver it doesn't work with dc.  Can someone
look into this?  Find out whats different, and have dc support both models?
But I'm confused, aren't the cards both the same model?  But they both
worked with pn... heh
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Anybody ever set up a parallel port scanner? I've
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I've been using a 4xDDS2 changer made by Connor/Seagate. They've been
turning up at auction and surplus houses. I run it under FreeBSD-3.x
with Amanda's chio driver.

The first one I bought was US$125 from www.onsale.com including the 4x
tape-holder cartridge! Last I checked, www.ezsystems.com had em but
you'll need to get the 4x cartridge separately for a total cost of
around US$300-400 or something.

There's also a 12x cartridge but I've never tried it so I can't vouch
for it's durability.

It's the most cost-effective thing I've found, though stock at surplus
houses changes quite a bit.  I can't affor DLT even without a changer
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, James FitzGibbon wrote:

> I've search the -questions, -current and -hardware lists to no avail; can
> anyone give me a definitive answer as to whether FreeBSD runs on systems
> using PC800 (RAMBUS) memory ?  Also, if there are any outstanding issues
> with this memory, I've love to hear about them.

FreeBSD works just fine on such systems.  The only "outstanding issue"
that you will have is that RAMBUS DRAM is proprietary, expensive, and
is no longer supported by Intel (or any other PC chipset manufacturer
for that matter) in their chipset roadmaps for future chipsets.


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> http://www.linux-hacker.net/iopener/

very cool!  now how to get it to run freebsd!

randy


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> very cool!  now how to get it to run freebsd!
>
> randy
>

Someone got NetBSD to run on it without opening it.

http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2000/03/13/0006.html

I don't think it would be very difficult to get working with freebsd.
Should be a simple matter of installing FreeBSD on a HD using another
machine and then installing the HD in the I-Opener...

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Thus spake dave (dmehler22@earthlink.net):

> I'd like to be able to print to it via freebsd. I know about apsfilter, but
> it does not handle remote printing. The printer driver most recommended to

It does, in the new version. Please update your ports-tree and try the
new stuff.

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Hi,I am new user of freeBSD and I am having problems running the Xserver
because of my i810 chipset.
does anyone know where i can find the i810 kernel module ?
I have it and installed it for linux but not for FreebSD.

i have Xfree 3.3.6 so it should be alright i guess.

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IS there ANY difference between these cards?
3c980B vs. 3c905B...

I've looked at the boards and setup, and the only difference i see is the paintjob.


any insight?

vae



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Hello,

Does anyone know if the server VALinux FullOn 2x2 ("good" version :
http://www.valinux.com/systems/productinfo.html?product=16#raid) can
run with FreeBSD ? Every components of this server seem ok except for
the RAID controler which is a Mylex AcceleRAID 150. On this web page
(http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=9), i read
that this card should be supported on FreeBSD 4.x but also that it has
never been tested with this special card.

So, if someone has a good or bad experience with this server, please
let me know. Or may be there is other equivalent servers to this one
with "official" FreeBSD support ?

Thank you.
Stephane Legrand.


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On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 06:57:50PM +0100, Stephane Legrand wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if the server VALinux FullOn 2x2 ("good" version :
> http://www.valinux.com/systems/productinfo.html?product=16#raid) can
> run with FreeBSD ? Every components of this server seem ok except for
> the RAID controler which is a Mylex AcceleRAID 150. On this web page
> (http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=9), i read
> that this card should be supported on FreeBSD 4.x but also that it has
> never been tested with this special card.

The Mylex AcceleRaid 150/250 is supported as bootable device since
a few weeks. I am running a 250 currently and I am very happy with it.

> 
> So, if someone has a good or bad experience with this server, please
> let me know. Or may be there is other equivalent servers to this one
> with "official" FreeBSD support ?
> 
> Thank you.
> Stephane Legrand.
> 
> 
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> > Does anyone know if the server VALinux FullOn 2x2 ("good" version :
> > http://www.valinux.com/systems/productinfo.html?product=16#raid) can
> > run with FreeBSD ? Every components of this server seem ok except for
> > the RAID controler which is a Mylex AcceleRAID 150. On this web page
> > (http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=9), i read
> > that this card should be supported on FreeBSD 4.x but also that it has
> > never been tested with this special card.
> 
> The Mylex AcceleRaid 150/250 is supported as bootable device since
> a few weeks. I am running a 250 currently and I am very happy with it.

AFAIK, the 150 is the same as the 250, but with a slower processor.  I 
don't have one here in the lab, but I would be quite surprised if it 
didn't work as expected.

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On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:50:14PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if the server VALinux FullOn 2x2 ("good" version :
> > > http://www.valinux.com/systems/productinfo.html?product=16#raid) can
> > > run with FreeBSD ? Every components of this server seem ok except for
> > > the RAID controler which is a Mylex AcceleRAID 150. On this web page
> > > (http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=9), i read
> > > that this card should be supported on FreeBSD 4.x but also that it has
> > > never been tested with this special card.
> > 
> > The Mylex AcceleRaid 150/250 is supported as bootable device since
> > a few weeks. I am running a 250 currently and I am very happy with it.
> 
> AFAIK, the 150 is the same as the 250, but with a slower processor.  I 
> don't have one here in the lab, but I would be quite surprised if it 
> didn't work as expected.

Differences are:

33 MHz against 66 MHz cpu
Software Xor chip against hardware ASIC

> 
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> 

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From owner-freebsd-hardware  Wed Mar 15 20:55:17 2000
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Umm... As i recall, the 3c980x is a bigger board, it's
got a lot of features, optimizing it as a server card.
 I could be wrong, but i think there's more than one
port on it. The 3c905x is more of a client card, more
for just supplying 100baseTX.
Check 3com's page again... there's a whole bunch of
stuff it can do. i just forget at the moment.

--- vaevictus@socket.net wrote:
> IS there ANY difference between these cards?
> 3c980B vs. 3c905B...
> 
> I've looked at the boards and setup, and the only
> difference i see is the paintjob.
> 
> 
> any insight?
> 
> vae
> 
> 
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Actually, I was able to acquire a 3c980 for testing and noticed that IC
for IC
and transistor for transistor, it looked EXACTLY like the 3c905.
There are not more than one port on it, but i'll check out the webpage...

Hope the advantages aren't software only...

vae


On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Eaglez wrote:

> Umm... As i recall, the 3c980x is a bigger board, it's
> got a lot of features, optimizing it as a server card.
>  I could be wrong, but i think there's more than one
> port on it. The 3c905x is more of a client card, more
> for just supplying 100baseTX.
> Check 3com's page again... there's a whole bunch of
> stuff it can do. i just forget at the moment.
> 
> --- vaevictus@socket.net wrote:
> > IS there ANY difference between these cards?
> > 3c980B vs. 3c905B...
> > 
> > I've looked at the boards and setup, and the only
> > difference i see is the paintjob.
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> > 
> > any insight?
> > 
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Greetings, all.

I just purchased, and am reluctantly about to return, an HP Pavillion, model
9695C.  The system is a serious PC, with an AMD Athlon chip at 800Mhz, 128MB
RAM, 40GB, and a variety of PCI cards including an ISDN modem.  It was just
what I wanted for my company's first file server.

Unfortunately, it doesn't run FreeBSD reliably.  I experienced a number of
exasperating  problems:

    o Keyboard dead during boot sequence
    o Can't map ports on PCI-based 10/100 ethernet card
    o Disk losses -- random file system errors

Interestingly, the machine's little brother (my future web server),  an HP
Pavillion model 8660C, with "true Intel" inside, works fine, as near as I
can make out.

I tried a couple standard remedies on the 9695 before giving up:

    o Reinstalling from scratch
    o Removing all the unessential PCI cards

CAVEAT EMPTOR w.r.t. this report:  I have fiddled with this machine for only
a day or so, and am giving up rather than waste my time.  I could have
easily done something stupid -- but I doubt it :-).  I bought the machines
to begin with because I think Bill and Dave's company makes nice products,
and I continue to think so.  Could be cockpit error.

I am not a subscriber of this list; e-mail me if you want any more
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Ciao,

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Ulf Zimmermann writes:
 > On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 12:50:14PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote:
 > > > > Does anyone know if the server VALinux FullOn 2x2 ("good" version :
 > > > > http://www.valinux.com/systems/productinfo.html?product=16#raid) can
 > > > > run with FreeBSD ? Every components of this server seem ok except for
 > > > > the RAID controler which is a Mylex AcceleRAID 150. On this web page
 > > > > (http://www.posi.net/freebsd/drivers/driver-info.phtml?ID=9), i read
 > > > > that this card should be supported on FreeBSD 4.x but also that it has
 > > > > never been tested with this special card.
 > > > 
 > > > The Mylex AcceleRaid 150/250 is supported as bootable device since
 > > > a few weeks. I am running a 250 currently and I am very happy with it.
 > > 
 > > AFAIK, the 150 is the same as the 250, but with a slower processor.  I 
 > > don't have one here in the lab, but I would be quite surprised if it 
 > > didn't work as expected.
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 > Differences are:
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 > 33 MHz against 66 MHz cpu
 > Software Xor chip against hardware ASIC
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Thank you very much for your answers. I'll keep inform the list if
FreeBSD actually runs well with this server.

Stephane Legrand.

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Hi,

I was about to install FreeBSD4.0 on my Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop.
It has a TI 1220 Cardbuscontroller and I own a 3COM FE575 NIC.

IRC and mailinglistarchives and HARDWARE.TXT doesn't give me a
definite answer, hence I'm asking this list:

Does FreeBSD-4.0 have Cardbus (i.e. 32bit PCMCIA support)
Followup question: Does FBSD-4.0 have support for my 3COM FE-575 NIC

If so, how can I get the bootfloppies to recognize my setup?
Just enabling pccard0 is nog enough and I can't find a decent 3COM
driver in the list either.

Please help!

Ivo Janssen

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Hello,
    I'm trying to get my hp812c printer to work with freebsd. I was trying
to make it work crossnetwork, that didn't work, so I decided to try it
locally attached to the bsd machine, which made a mess of a bunch of stuff,
so I was hopeful I could get it working fast. The problem is it's not
printing. I've got lpt0 in the kernel and it shows up, the printer itself
shows up as a generic printer. The lpt port is in interrupt driven mode, my
/etc/printcap file is right out of the handbook. I've made a logfile, and
used the lf command in printcap to instruct bsd to write to it, but I'm
getting nothing. I've restarted lpd several times, with no success.
    If anyone can help please e-mail me.
Thanks.
Dave.




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From owner-freebsd-hardware  Thu Mar 16 14:38:13 2000
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Ivo Janssen wrote:
> I was about to install FreeBSD4.0 on my Dell Inspiron 3500 laptop.
> It has a TI 1220 Cardbuscontroller and I own a 3COM FE575 NIC.
> 
> IRC and mailinglistarchives and HARDWARE.TXT doesn't give me a
> definite answer, hence I'm asking this list:
> 
> Does FreeBSD-4.0 have Cardbus (i.e. 32bit PCMCIA support)
> Followup question: Does FBSD-4.0 have support for my 3COM FE-575 NIC
> 
> If so, how can I get the bootfloppies to recognize my setup?
> Just enabling pccard0 is nog enough and I can't find a decent 3COM
> driver in the list either.

As Brooks Davis eruditely pointed out recently, no, FreeBSD doesn't
have any CardBus support at the moment. It's coming, but didn't
make it in 4.0.

That said, there are CardBus controllers which work in bridge mode,
like the one on my VAIO. You might want to (a) install FreeBSD off
the CDs, (b) configure your custom kernel.


v/r
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From owner-freebsd-hardware  Thu Mar 16 21:41:42 2000
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I believe that this problem was discussed about 2 months ago.  The default
kernel is setup for installing the OS via PLIP or over the parallel port.
i.e. it should not be set to "net" for printing.  My memory is hazy about
this so do a search in the archive for PLIP and sort by date.


                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 


                                                                                                                         
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Hello,
    I'm trying to get my hp812c printer to work with freebsd. I was trying
to make it work crossnetwork, that didn't work, so I decided to try it
locally attached to the bsd machine, which made a mess of a bunch of stuff,
so I was hopeful I could get it working fast. The problem is it's not
printing. I've got lpt0 in the kernel and it shows up, the printer itself
shows up as a generic printer. The lpt port is in interrupt driven mode, my
/etc/printcap file is right out of the handbook. I've made a logfile, and
used the lf command in printcap to instruct bsd to write to it, but I'm
getting nothing. I've restarted lpd several times, with no success.
    If anyone can help please e-mail me.
Thanks.
Dave.




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From owner-freebsd-hardware  Fri Mar 17 11:52:50 2000
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Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.

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Unless the SC50 magically got a real SCSI interface, it won't work on FreeBSD.


On Fri, 17 Mar 100, Gregory Benjamin wrote:

> Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
> The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.
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I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE on one of my "toy"
machines, an ol' P5-66 from Gateway. I first tried the 'make world'
approach last night, but managed to wedge the machine into a pretty
much unusable state when the installworld kept failing in the middle.

Anyway, I downloaded the 4.0-RELEASE and burned it in a CD. The
machine won't boot from CD, so I made the floppies. However, the
kernel won't boot, it panics. Here is the last few lines of kernel
messages (this is after the visual config which seems to work[0]),

atapci0: <RZ 100? ATA controller !WARNING! buggy chip data loss possible> port 0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 1.0 on pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA not supported
panic: resource_list_alloc: resource entry is busy
Uptime: 0s
Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort

I'm assuming that the panic has someting to do with the ominous
message with the atapci0 info? Then again... maybe not.

The system worked without a hitch in 3.x-STABLE (until I mucked up the
upgrade). I saw some caveats about some disk drivers, but it didn't
look like an Intel RZ1000 would be a problem.

Any help?
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Uh oh. What do you mean, "real SCSI"? I was hoping to pick up one of
these for testing. Are they some kind of mutant SCSI subset or something?

Dave

On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:

> Unless the SC50 magically got a real SCSI interface, it won't work on
> FreeBSD.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Mar 100, Gregory Benjamin wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
> > The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.



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SCSI interface, but filemarks, media error recovery, etc., have to be done in
software. This is a project I punted on quite some time back.


On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, fbsd-dave wrote:

> Uh oh. What do you mean, "real SCSI"? I was hoping to pick up one of
> these for testing. Are they some kind of mutant SCSI subset or something?
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> > Unless the SC50 magically got a real SCSI interface, it won't work on
> > FreeBSD.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 17 Mar 100, Gregory Benjamin wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
> > > The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.
> 
> 
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Shoot.

I just checked the OnStream site. They already have DI model drivers for
Linux, but the SC model Linux driver is still a work-in-progress. No
mention of fbsd - boo.

They claim to be releasing new models right about now that should work
without special consideration. The new server ADR models are described as
compatible with "Windows 95, 98 and NT; Novell NetWare; SCO OpenServerTM
and SCO UnixWare, Mac OS, Linux and others". There's more verbiage that
implies these are what we might expect of SCSI tape drives. The price is
higher though. $999 for the 35/70 model.

 http://www.onstream.com/server/index.asp

Looks like a used or pull DLT from ebay is still the best ticket for
onesy-twosy requirements.

Dave


On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:

> SCSI interface, but filemarks, media error recovery, etc., have to be done in
> software. This is a project I punted on quite some time back.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, fbsd-dave wrote:
> 
> > Uh oh. What do you mean, "real SCSI"? I was hoping to pick up one of
> > these for testing. Are they some kind of mutant SCSI subset or something?
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > On Fri, 17 Mar 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> > 
> > > Unless the SC50 magically got a real SCSI interface, it won't work on
> > > FreeBSD.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 17 Mar 100, Gregory Benjamin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
> > > > The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.



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> Does anyone have experience with the OnStream line of tape drives?
> The advertising I've seen makes their SC50 drive look appealing.

They're evil and not (yet) supported.  There's a new family coming out 
that looks like a real tape drive, which should be worth considering.

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fbsd-dave <fbsddave@mrcaffeine.com> wrote:

> Looks like a used or pull DLT from ebay is still the best ticket for
> onesy-twosy requirements.

BTW, can anybody comment on the prospects of buying used DLT drives?
I'm told they're robust, but...

Earlier this week there was a 4-year old DLT4000 at a local auction
site. It seemed kind of interesting, but I have no idea in what
condition such a drive is after (possibly) four years of daily
(ab)use.

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> Now what I would like to know is if anyone has any experience with
> Digital Cameras in FreeBSD that could give me some feed back on which
> brands and models are known to work well with FreeBSD.

	I purchased a Kodak DC280.  It takes excellent pictures (with
great resolution)  I've never tried to connect to it using the cable.  I
use the pc-card slot on my laptop and a $12 adapter for the compact-flash
card that the camera uses.  It works great... loads all the images from a
32M card (55 at high quality) in seconds.  I like it a lot.  I don't think
you can download the images from the camera using the serial/usb connector
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> > Now what I would like to know is if anyone has any experience with
> > Digital Cameras in FreeBSD that could give me some feed back on which
> > brands and models are known to work well with FreeBSD.
> 
> 	I purchased a Kodak DC280.  It takes excellent pictures (with
> great resolution)  I've never tried to connect to it using the cable.  I

I have a DC240 which works beautifully with GNOME gphoto-0.4.0 on my Linux
box.  The Kodak transfer protocol is pretty easy and (unlike most camera
manufacturers) Kodak is being quite open about how to use their cameras on
non-MS products...  (Except for their proprietary picture compression
method found on a few of their cameras -- just set your camera to JPEG
format, and the problem's solved.)  I haven't tried it on FBSD, but if you
can get GNOME running (?), it should work right out of the box.  Or just
compile gphoto ......duh....never mind... (a quick look in ports)

/usr/ports/graphics/gphoto should solve the problem.  I do recommend the 
Kodak models for both quality and "thanks Kodak for making a product that
isn't OS-limited" value....  (gphoto also has a command-line interface
which is helpful at times.)

--mike




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Mike Nowlin <mike@argos.org> wrote in list.freebsd-hardware:
 > > > Now what I would like to know is if anyone has any experience with
 > > > Digital Cameras in FreeBSD that could give me some feed back on which
 > > > brands and models are known to work well with FreeBSD.
 > > 
 > > 	I purchased a Kodak DC280.  It takes excellent pictures (with
 > > great resolution)  I've never tried to connect to it using the cable.  I
 > 
 > I have a DC240 which works beautifully with GNOME gphoto-0.4.0 on my Linux
 > [...]
 > /usr/ports/graphics/gphoto should solve the problem.  I do recommend the 
 > Kodak models for both quality and "thanks Kodak for making a product that
 > isn't OS-limited" value....  (gphoto also has a command-line interface
 > which is helpful at times.)

Just forget gphoto, it's dead slow.  :-)

Have a look at http://www.fromme.com/ophoto/  which is a tool
for FreeBSD to access the Kodak DC240 and DC280 via the USB
interface.

Regards
   Oliver

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