From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 9 10:28:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tomts3-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts3.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A0737B5B9; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from transmogrify@sympatico.ca) Received: from sympatico.ca ([207.236.126.121]) by tomts3-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP id <20000409172827.STGA1014.tomts3-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:28:27 -0400 Message-ID: <38F0BD5E.52034BAC@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 13:26:54 -0400 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Chvostek Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD ethernet - "Can't map in cis", "driver allocation failed" References: <20000407132757.A14596@flarn.it.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Chvostek wrote: > > Hiya. > > A search of the mailing lists tells me that this question gets asked > *way* more often than it gets answered. ;) > > I'm trying to use a "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet+Modem II". Unfortunately multi-function cards are not yet supported under FreeBSD. ie. you are out of luck. Try reading the documentation @ www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO > > I'm not sure what some of these configuration elements are, and they're > not documented in the man pages or handbook (or the FAQ or the mailing > list archives). For example, what's does the "0x1" mean on the config > line? What's the significance of the references to "xe1" when I don't > already have an xe0 in the system? Has anyone used one of these before? > > Can anybody lend me a clue? > > Thanks. :) > > -- > Paul Chvostek > > To larger sight the rim of shadow is the line of light. > (Thomas William Parsons) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Paul H. ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Email: dp@penix.org BIO: http://bling.dyn.dhs.org GPG Key fingerprint: 2D7C A7E2 DB1F EA5F 8C6F  D5EC 3D39 F274 4AA3 E8B9 Public Key available here: http://bling.dyn.dhs.org/dp.asc ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 9 10:58:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from papoose.quick.com (papoose.quick.com [207.239.63.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF8637B62C for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jq@quick.com) Received: (from jq@localhost) by papoose.quick.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA02229 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200004091758.NAA02229@papoose.quick.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.2p1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "James E. Quick" Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:58:41 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Would this be a good choice with either freebsd-current or 4.0 Reply-To: jq@quick.com Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need to install a new freebsd server for IPSEC, firewall duties, sendmail and innd. My biggest concern is power budget. I am looking for a FreeBSD compatible system to run a headless server which has a frugal power budget. Though size is not a huge concern, smaller is better. I saw several recent posts implying that a system marketed as BookPC worked with freebsd but it had no serial ports (thus less desirable headless) and contained a WinModem which is useless to me. My base requirements are 128-256MB ram, 10/100 ethernet, 2 serial ports. I came across the following URL today, which seems to be just what I am looking for - as long as it works. http://www.interpromicro.com/sy-saharaII2000spec.html I was thinking that a bare bones system with a 7200 RPM ATA drive and a 500 or 550Mhz Pentium III would make a great utility box, one that would be peppy enough for fast compilation, yet frugal enough to run for extended periods of time on UPS. Does it look like this would be a straight forward system to install 4.0 on? Any caveats? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Apr 9 23:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from lanturn.express.ru (lanturn.kmost.express.ru [212.24.37.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC4737B8B5; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vova@express.ru) Received: from vova (helo=localhost) by lanturn.express.ru with local-esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12eXjV-0004Z5-00; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:31:37 +0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:31:37 +0400 (MSD) From: vova@express.ru X-Sender: vova@lanturn.kmost.express.ru To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: pcic problem in CURRENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got pcic problem in CURRENT: On the same hardware 3.4 and 4.0 sees pcic0 on 0x3e2, but with CURRENT kernel don't see it and don't say anything about pcic when booted with -v But when I've changed ioaddr of pcic controler to 0x3e0 all begins work. what was changed in driver ? -- TSB Russian Express, Moscow Vladimir B. Grebenschikov, vova@express.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 10 9:17: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (zmamail03.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D0C37BBAA for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.waite@compaq.com) Received: by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 20F72257D; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.52]) by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01764261C; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <24D7SZ73>; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C3025@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: "'mjacob@feral.com'" , robert cashman Cc: Rob Schofield , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: stop emailing me Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:16:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org WARNING! My spell checker has informed me that indeed your name is spelled incorrectly so it is probably best that you change it anyways. -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Jacob [mailto:mjacob@feral.com] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:27 PM To: robert cashman Cc: Rob Schofield; freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: stop emailing me If they get a life, they very likely will waste none of it listening to complaints from you. Have you considered changing your name? That might mean you could get another email address. Then the mail would stop. Particularly the mail from you. On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, robert cashman wrote: > AAAARRRRGGGGGH!!!!! I have been trying to unsubscribe > to this damn list for two months. Who ever is > responsible for the headache should get a life and > maintain it! > > LET ME BE CLEAR! UNSUBSCRIBE FREEBSD-HARDWARE! > > > > > --- Rob Schofield wrote: > > Joe Hayes wrote: > > > > > > WHo are you people and why do you keep sending me > > > technical email about hardware? > > > > Who are you, and why do you keep sending us messages > > like this? > > > > It would be funny if he was sending to the right > > target.... > > > > May I politely suggest you read the instructions at > > the bottom of this mail and > > unsubscribe yourself from this list? > > > > -- > > The Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Scheduling: > > > > The first ninety percent of the job takes ninety > > percent of the > > allotted time, the last ten percent takes the other > > ninety percent. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of > > the message > > > > ===== > Bob's book pick of the week. "Rule Breakers, Rule Makers" > by David and Tom Gardner of the Motley Fool > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 10 10:27:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www.timandpatrick.com (cx33461-b.chnd1.az.home.com [24.6.172.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0681137B984; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kf7nn1@cybertrails.com) Received: from john (mti-aptis-phx-p39.cybertrails.com [162.42.8.39]) by www.timandpatrick.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA03502; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:27:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from kf7nn1@cybertrails.com) Message-ID: <003d01bfa312$333fa0d0$0200a8c0@john> From: "freebsd" To: "Alfred Perlstein" , "Mike Bush" Cc: , References: <001901bf9f36$09ce2b20$0200000a@rvi.org> <20000405142835.C8349@fw.wintelcom.net> Subject: Re: fatal 3D-Now? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:28:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org same problem here but not on Intel cpu's, i have 3 amd machines running 3.4 and i have tried new hard drives, cpu's ram etc... but i get random errors while doing major compiles like make world. All machines are VIA chipsets, tyan and epox manufacturers. sometimes the system will crash while in xwindows and leave my video all screwed up forcing a reboot. Windows seems to exibit strange behavior also like locking up very often, failed reinstalls. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: "Mike Bush" Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: fatal 3D-Now? > * Mike Bush [000405 13:07] wrote: > > CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (501.14-MHz 586-class CPU) > > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 > > Features=0x8021bf > > AMD Features=0x80000800 > > RAM: SDRAM 64MB > > DRIVE: 1 6GB SCSI > > > > Ok, I've replaced my CPU and ram. Same error, I get "program cc1 got fatal > > signal 4" when I try to compile something large.. like say, buildworld or a > > new kernel. I've been told this means its a hardware problem, which is why I > > replaced my CPU/RAM. Anywho, if I turn off internal caching in the BIOS the > > system boots fine and I can compile without problems.. even though it takes > > about 6 hours longer to buildworld. I've talked to other people who have AMD > > 3D-Now's and it seems they have the same problem in linux. Odd. Is there a > > bug in those AMD's? Is there no 'good' workaround? Is the kernel reading the > > size of the cache wrong or what? Any info would be helpful. > > Check that your CPU voltage is set correctly. > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] > "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 10 10:50:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from portnoy.lbl.gov (portnoy.lbl.gov [131.243.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E11F637B8D9; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@portnoy.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov () id KAA21708; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:50:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jin Guojun (FTG staff) Message-Id: <200004101750.KAA21708@george.lbl.gov> To: bright@wintelcom.net, kf7nn1@cybertrails.com, mab@kougars.kish.cc.il.us Subject: Re: fatal 3D-Now? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, rfreebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not clear trouble-shooting steps and reports. What Intel CPUs were you talking about? 200MHz pentium MMX? I am certain that Celeron/PII/PIII will not work on the motherboard that you are running AMD 500MHZ K6-II. So, how did you compare them :-) If you tried a 200MHz pentium MMX, which uses 66MHz system bus and 16.667 MHZ memory bus, it will be much different from K6-II which is running 100MHZ system and memory bus. If this is the case, the motherboard sounds like having the problem. So, to identify the problem, you must be give clear and detailed information, so people who are not on the scene can get a picture to help you, OK! I almost receive tens of uncleared sys-admin message every day, so I told my folks that if you send me more than three of such report, you are better take some bug-report trainning class before submitting more bug-report :-) -Jin > same problem here but not on Intel cpu's, i have 3 amd machines > running 3.4 and i have tried new hard drives, cpu's ram etc... > but i get random errors while doing major compiles like > make world. All machines are VIA chipsets, tyan and epox > manufacturers. > > sometimes the system will crash while in xwindows and leave my > video all screwed up forcing a reboot. > > Windows seems to exibit strange behavior also like locking up > very often, failed reinstalls. . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 10 11:50:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from exmta1.rjf.com (exmta1.rjf.com [170.12.8.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7F537BC9F for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ICartwright@IT.RJF.com) Received: by EXMTA1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <6D5097D4B56AD31190D50008C7B1579B6701BC@EXLAN5> From: Ian Cartwright To: "FreeBSD Hardware (E-mail)" Subject: Compaq EISA ida driver... Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:50:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I have been trying to persuade an old Compaq Proliant 2000 with an EISA SMART RAID controller to boot so I can install FreeBSD on it. I started with 4.0-RELEASE, and have moved on to 5.0-CURRENT in the hopes of getting the mfsroot boot disks to work. In a separate thread (one that got mangled, apparently) I described my woes. My question now is, would giving 3.4-STABLE or using an even older version of FreeBSD with the original ida driver written by Mark Dawson work? Apparently the version in >=4.0-RELEASE has a problem locking down the EISA resources for the SMART controllers... Below is my output from my testing with the 5.0-CURRENT code: Ida.c was modified to include some debugging info as suggested by Matthew N. Dodd... Modification to ida.c: qcb_done = idahwqcbptov(ida, completed & ~3); /*existing line of code (#454) */ printf("0x%lx\n0x%lx\n0x%lx\n", qcb, completed, qcb_done); /*added line of code */ Output: ida0: at 0x7c88-0x7c9e, irq 14 (level) ida0: on eisa0 slot 7 0xc0b8e000 0xffffffff 0x0 panic: ida_wait: incorrect qcb returned Uptime: 0s Any input would be appreciated! Ian Cartwright icartwright@it.rjf.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Apr 10 16: 3: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EF537B513; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20840; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:15:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA25844; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004102214.QAA25844@harmony.village.org> To: vova@express.ru Subject: Re: pcic problem in CURRENT Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:31:37 +0400." References: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:14:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message vova@express.ru writes: : On the same hardware : 3.4 and 4.0 sees pcic0 on 0x3e2, but with CURRENT kernel don't see it : and don't say anything about pcic when booted with -v : : But when I've changed ioaddr of pcic controler to 0x3e0 all begins work. : what was changed in driver ? Odd. What hardware do you have? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 11 2:36:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gabriel.schoolpeople.net (gabriel.schoolpeople.net [216.34.170.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B220D37B9E3 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 02:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brandon@schoolpeople.net) Received: from triangulata (cs2756-14.austin.rr.com [24.27.56.14]) by gabriel.schoolpeople.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA43883 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:37:46 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brandon@schoolpeople.net) Message-ID: <00e601bfa399$a6f8a4e0$0101a8c0@austin.rr.com> From: "Brandon DeYoung" To: "FreeBSDHW" Subject: RAID & FreeBSD Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:38:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a "best" RAID solution for Free BSD? I just set up two new database servers and like a true coward installed Linux on them (RedHat 6.1 using software RAID). I did this because it appears that the only hardware controllers supported by Free BSD are DPT's SmartRAID I-IV which, though available, don't appear to be manufactured any longer. Is there a software RAID option for FreeBSD that I was unable to find? Any and all suggestions and experiences anyone is willing to share would be greatly appreciated. ~Brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 11 6:22:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from guy.asimware.com (guy.asimware.com [199.185.255.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4D237B9E3 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gscott@guy.asimware.com) Received: from localhost (gscott@localhost) by guy.asimware.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00215; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:22:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Scott To: Brandon DeYoung Cc: FreeBSDHW Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <00e601bfa399$a6f8a4e0$0101a8c0@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there a "best" RAID solution for Free BSD? > I just set up two new database servers and like a true coward installed > Linux on them (RedHat 6.1 using software RAID). I did this because it > appears that the only hardware controllers supported by Free BSD are DPT's > SmartRAID I-IV which, though available, don't appear to be manufactured any > longer. Is there a software RAID option for FreeBSD that I was unable to > find? I just set up FreeBSD witha DPT PM1564U3 SmartCacheIV card. Very nice card.. only problem is you cannot use it with anything later than FreeBSD 3.2 since it is an i2o bus card as opposed to EATA. These are great cards, just now that Adaptec has gone and borg'ed DPT, I doubt DPT will be putting out these series of cards anymore, especially with Qlogic SCSI chips on them.. (notice how the Qlogic part is nicely ghosted out in their print ads? :) > Any and all suggestions and experiences anyone is willing to share would > be greatly appreciated. I managed to nail down the last card I could find at a supplier. If you do a bunch of digging around you might be able to find one. www.asimware.com ************************************************************** ** Greg Scott, ** Asimware Innovations Inc. ** ** Website Co-Ordinator ** 600 Upper Wellington Unit D ** ** Network Administrator ** Hamilton, Ontario Canada ** ** gscott@asimware.com ** L9A 3P9 ** ************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Apr 11 17:24:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DCE37BB1E for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:24:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02680; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004120030.RAA02680@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Brandon DeYoung" Cc: "FreeBSDHW" Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:38:00 CDT." <00e601bfa399$a6f8a4e0$0101a8c0@austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:30:01 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there a "best" RAID solution for Free BSD? > I just set up two new database servers and like a true coward installed > Linux on them (RedHat 6.1 using software RAID). I did this because it > appears that the only hardware controllers supported by Free BSD are DPT's > SmartRAID I-IV which, though available, don't appear to be manufactured any > longer. Is there a software RAID option for FreeBSD that I was unable to > find? There exist both software (vinum) and hardware (AMI, Mylex) RAID solutions for FreeBSD that you could have used for this. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 1: 5:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from balrog.rt.ru (balrog.rt.ru [195.161.0.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387A737BAF3 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@rt.ru) Received: from rt.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balrog.rt.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA33023 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:05:50 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@rt.ru) Message-ID: <38F42E5D.9A6DFE7@rt.ru> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:05:49 +0400 From: "Dmitry S. Rzhavin" Organization: Rostelecom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000103-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD References: <200004120030.RAA02680@mass.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > There exist both software (vinum) and hardware (AMI, Mylex) RAID > solutions for FreeBSD that you could have used for this. > Does it mean 4.0 boots and work ok with AMI 438 now? And where can I get 4.0-curr now? By cvsup only? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 6: 3: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from unicap.br (email.unicap.br [200.133.2.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB3A37BB52 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 06:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luciano@unicap.br) Received: from unicap.br (sirimole.unicap.br [200.133.2.220]) by unicap.br (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/1) with ESMTP id KAA63884 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:03:17 -0300 Message-ID: <38F4809F.7C596489@unicap.br> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:47 -0300 From: Luciano de Oliveira X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 6:38:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.christschool.org (mail.christschool.org [208.131.129.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DC537BCB8 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 06:38:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pbrezny@christschool.org) Received: from mail.christschool.org (www.christschool.org [208.131.129.58]) by mail.christschool.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA24485 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:40:31 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000412094103.00824d50@christschool.org> X-Sender: pbrezny@christschool.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:41:03 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Peter Brezny Subject: drive install problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, if you have a minute, let me know what you think ive done wrong. I added a new drive to a 2.2.8 freebsd box, secondary controller, master. I used the /stand/sysinstall program and went into post install configuration and used their partition manager to create one big partition on the disk, write the changes, then went to the label manager to label the partition /bkup. When i left the program and typed df the system showed all the partitions including the /bkup at the end of the list. great. after i reboot the machine however, when i type df, no /bkup partition is listed separately from the other partitions (those being /, /var, /usr, /home, /proc. however, /bkup can be found under the root, /. looking around for what might be wrong, i found a note in the handbook that if you were adding drives by hand, you had to edit /etc/fstab. so i got all the pertinet drive info, and created a line in /etc/fstab that appeared identical to the other configurations except for the mount point and the name of the partition, wdc1e, or something like that. i rebooted the box remotely and well, it never came back up. when i looked at /etc/fstab on another system, i noticed that its entry for the /bkup partition (which seemed to be completely created by the setup program /stand/sysinstall) was before the cdrom and before /proc. otherwise, there was no difference. there is a device listed in /dev that matches the description of the new drive. I've not had a chance to get to the box, and see if it will let me back in to fix /etc/fstab now or not but i am hopint it will. any ideas? Thanks. Peter Peter Brezny Christ School To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 9:58: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-193-112-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0F437C2F0 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02614; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004121703.KAA02614@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Dmitry S. Rzhavin" Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:05:49 +0400." <38F42E5D.9A6DFE7@rt.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:03:01 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > There exist both software (vinum) and hardware (AMI, Mylex) RAID > > solutions for FreeBSD that you could have used for this. > > Does it mean 4.0 boots and work ok with AMI 438 now? The existing caveats regarding booting may still stand; I haven't verified this. > And where can I get 4.0-curr now? By cvsup only? There is no such thing; if you mean 4-stable, in the usual places. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 13:20:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from unicap.br (email.unicap.br [200.133.2.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C7C37B855 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luciano@unicap.br) Received: from unicap.br (sirimole.unicap.br [200.133.2.220]) by unicap.br (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/1) with ESMTP id RAA06232 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:17:53 -0300 Message-ID: <38F4E67B.B3040527@unicap.br> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:11:23 -0300 From: Luciano de Oliveira X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.2) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: squid server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ALL, We're buying a server to work with squid, and i'd like to know if there's any problem known with these machine models: HP LPr, HP LC2000 and COMPAQ DL380, all of them comes with 2 processors, wide scsi 2 or 3, I'm not sure. Thanks alot. -- ********************************************************** _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Universidade Catolica de Pernambuco Nucleo de Informatica e Computacao Luciano de Oliveira Eng. Eletronico Especialista em Tecnologia da Informacao luciano@unicap.br 55-081-2164272/2164139 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 13:45: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com (ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com [161.114.1.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9971037B71F for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.waite@compaq.com) Received: by ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 134981CA; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:44:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.52]) by ztxmail04.ztx.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FA912F; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:44:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exctay-gh02.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2X9N2LS2>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:44:54 -0400 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C30D6@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: 'Luciano de Oliveira' , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: squid server Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:44:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org By the one from Compaq. I hear that FreeBSD runs twice as fast on it :-) Sorry but i am not much help with the Intel line. Now if you wanted to step up to the real systems (Alpha) then I might have more to offer. -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Luciano de Oliveira [mailto:luciano@unicap.br] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:11 PM To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: squid server Hi ALL, We're buying a server to work with squid, and i'd like to know if there's any problem known with these machine models: HP LPr, HP LC2000 and COMPAQ DL380, all of them comes with 2 processors, wide scsi 2 or 3, I'm not sure. Thanks alot. -- ********************************************************** _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Universidade Catolica de Pernambuco Nucleo de Informatica e Computacao Luciano de Oliveira Eng. Eletronico Especialista em Tecnologia da Informacao luciano@unicap.br 55-081-2164272/2164139 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Apr 12 14: 0:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from uswgco33.uswest.com (uswgco33.uswest.com [199.168.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0105E37B844 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsattle@uswest.com) Received: from egate-ut2.uswc.uswest.com (egate-ut2.uswc.uswest.com [148.157.122.199]) by uswgco33.uswest.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e3CL0hq08513 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from medmail.mrg.uswest.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egate-ut2.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11917 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from worldsecure.dex.uswest.com (worldsecure.dex.uswest.com [155.70.2.88]) by medmail.mrg.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03890 for ; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 155.70.2.83 by worldsecure.dex.uswest.com with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Wed, 12 Apr 00 15:00:40 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: aadd1a76-264d-11d1-91c7-080009d97107 Received: by DENIMS01.mrg.uswest.com with Internet Mail Service ( 5.5.2448.0) id <1F9GBBVR>; Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:00:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Sattler, Rick" To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: squid server Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:00:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 14EA3C72472644-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have two Compaq's (both deskpro 4000's) and the only comments I have are: - beware of the special disk partition the Compaq's use to manage the BIOS - some of the newer Compaq's simply make this a directory but you have to make it (or keep it rather) a FAT file system in order for the system to access the BIOS. - the internal ThunderLan NIC's in mine sometimes go to sleep - not sure why but they simply stop working once in a while. Not sure if upgrading from 3.1 to 3.4/3.5 would resolve this but it is mainly an irritant. Hope that helps, Rick -----Original Message----- From: Waite, Michael [mailto:Michael.Waite@compaq.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:45 PM To: 'Luciano de Oliveira'; hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: squid server By the one from Compaq. I hear that FreeBSD runs twice as fast on it :-) Sorry but i am not much help with the Intel line. Now if you wanted to step up to the real systems (Alpha) then I might have more to offer. -----Mike -----Original Message----- From: Luciano de Oliveira [mailto:luciano@unicap.br] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:11 PM To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: squid server Hi ALL, We're buying a server to work with squid, and i'd like to know if there's any problem known with these machine models: HP LPr, HP LC2000 and COMPAQ DL380, all of them comes with 2 processors, wide scsi 2 or 3, I'm not sure. Thanks alot. -- ********************************************************** _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Universidade Catolica de Pernambuco Nucleo de Informatica e Computacao Luciano de Oliveira Eng. Eletronico Especialista em Tecnologia da Informacao luciano@unicap.br 55-081-2164272/2164139 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 1:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from router.difi.de (router.difi.de [212.6.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3C937B67F for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from max.difi.de (max [192.168.1.2]) by router.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11434 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19535 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Message-ID: <38F5888D.2243A455@difi.de> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:42:53 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compaq ThunderLan (was:squid server) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Rick, > - the internal ThunderLan NIC's in mine sometimes go to sleep - not sure why > but they simply stop working once in a while. Not sure if upgrading from 3.1 > to 3.4/3.5 would resolve this but it is mainly an irritant. I think upgrading wouldn't change anything. I have a Proliant 800 with a Thunderlan NIC and the problem is just the same with FreeBSD 4.0. If I can't fix this, I'll have to put in one of my last remaining DE-500BAs from DEC... Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 9:41: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from lanturn.express.ru (lanturn.kmost.express.ru [212.24.37.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1775E37B78E; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vova@express.ru) Received: from vova (helo=localhost) by lanturn.express.ru with local-esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12fmg5-000GaO-00; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:41:13 +0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:41:13 +0400 (MSD) From: vova@express.ru X-Sender: vova@lanturn.kmost.express.ru To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcic problem in CURRENT In-Reply-To: <200004102214.QAA25844@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > In message vova@express.ru writes: > : On the same hardware > : 3.4 and 4.0 sees pcic0 on 0x3e2, but with CURRENT kernel don't see it > : and don't say anything about pcic when booted with -v > : > : But when I've changed ioaddr of pcic controler to 0x3e0 all begins work. > : what was changed in driver ? > > Odd. What hardware do you have? pcic0: at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 it is ISA PCMCI adapter for my WaveLan card: wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 3 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: Ethernet address: 00:60:1d:f1:64:23 > Warner -- TSB Russian Express, Moscow Vladimir B. Grebenschikov, vova@express.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 9:45:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gabriel.schoolpeople.net (gabriel.schoolpeople.net [216.34.170.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB1537BC7F for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brandon@schoolpeople.net) Received: from triangulata (cs2756-14.austin.rr.com [24.27.56.14]) by gabriel.schoolpeople.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA51456 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:46:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brandon@schoolpeople.net) Message-ID: <012c01bfa567$eceaf960$0101a8c0@austin.rr.com> From: "Brandon DeYoung" To: References: <200004121703.KAA02614@mass.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:47:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > And where can I get 4.0-curr now? By cvsup only? Try ftp.freesoftware.com /pub/FreeBSD/releases/ If you've got a CD burner /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-install.iso ~Brandon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" To: "Dmitry S. Rzhavin" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 12:03 PM Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD > > Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > There exist both software (vinum) and hardware (AMI, Mylex) RAID > > > solutions for FreeBSD that you could have used for this. > > > > Does it mean 4.0 boots and work ok with AMI 438 now? > > The existing caveats regarding booting may still stand; I haven't > verified this. > > > And where can I get 4.0-curr now? By cvsup only? > > There is no such thing; if you mean 4-stable, in the usual places. > > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 10: 7: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from balrog.rt.ru (balrog.rt.ru [195.161.0.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B7937BAA3 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:06:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@rt.ru) Received: from rt.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balrog.rt.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA37879 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:06:53 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from dima@rt.ru) Message-ID: <38F5FEAD.DE9ADE77@rt.ru> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:06:53 +0400 From: "Dmitry S. Rzhavin" Organization: Rostelecom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-20000103-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID & FreeBSD References: <200004121703.KAA02614@mass.cdrom.com> <012c01bfa567$eceaf960$0101a8c0@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brandon DeYoung wrote: > > > > And where can I get 4.0-curr now? By cvsup only? > > Try ftp.freesoftware.com /pub/FreeBSD/releases/ If you've got a CD burner > /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.0-install.iso > Sorry, I mean -snap. FreeBSD team writing bugfixex/updates to 4.0. Some months ago I was able to get latest snap from current.FreeBSD.org. Now there is 5.0-curr only. Is there any place where I can get latest snap for 4.0, or I need do install RELEASE, cvsup and rebuild it to get latest version? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 13:45:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116FC37BE03 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmdrpc@att.net) Received: from webmail.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.12.29]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000413204457.OWSC6491.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net>; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:44:57 +0000 Received: from [199.123.90.165] by webmail.worldnet.att.net; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:44:56 +0000 From: cmdrpc@att.net To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading Notebooks Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:44:56 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Feb 5 2000) X-Authenticated-Sender: cmdrpc@att.net Message-Id: <20000413204457.OWSC6491.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with a 2GB hard drive. I would like to replace the hard drive and load either FreeBSD or Linux right now the Libretto has win95. I recently look at Toshiba's webpage and there are two companies which make a replacement kit for the hard drive. The first is CMS Storage their kit would replace the 2GB drive with a 6GB drive. The other is Apricorn and they have two kits a 6GB and a 12GB drive. Has anyone used the kits from these companies if so what was your experience? THANKS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 18:51:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1982437B55C for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA37701; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:50:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:50:17 -0400 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: drive install problem Message-ID: <20000413215017.A37511@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: cjclark@home.com References: <3.0.5.32.20000412094103.00824d50@christschool.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000412094103.00824d50@christschool.org>; from pbrezny@christschool.org on Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 09:41:03AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 09:41:03AM -0400, Peter Brezny wrote: [snip] > there is a device listed in /dev that matches the description of the new > drive. I've not had a chance to get to the box, and see if it will let me > back in to fix /etc/fstab now or not but i am hopint it will. > > any ideas? It sounds like a bad line in /etc/fstab. When the mount fails during boot up, the boot process stops and it will drop to single-user mode. Check if the other filesystems are mounted and that the roor filesystem is mounted read-write. If not, mount by hand. Check that /etc/fstab is correct. It does not matter what order the filesystems are in (normally, and it would not in this case). Check that the device listed for the filesystem in fstab exists in /dev. If not, create it. If you have fixed anything or not, at this point, try, # mount /bkup Do _NOT_ give it the device on the command line. This will make sure that it tries to use the fstab entry. If it fails, check the error message and try to fix the problem. If it works... Problem fixed. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 19:11: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.networkiowa.com (ns1.networkiowa.com [209.234.64.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CA737B55C for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnl@raccoon.com) Received: from raccoon.com (dsl.72.145.networkiowa.com [209.234.72.145]) by ns1.networkiowa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07264; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: <38F67E3F.F8F1271D@raccoon.com> Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:11:11 -0500 From: John Lengeling X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cmdrpc@att.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading Notebooks References: <20000413204457.OWSC6491.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't have specific experience with Libretto's, but I have replaced the hard drives in many other laptops from Dell, Compaq, Toshiba, IBM, etc. with off the shelf 2.5" IDE hard drives. CMS and other companies charge quite a premium for their replacement drives when all they consist of is the bare hard drive and the carrier to hold it. If you are upgrading, I generally open up the existing drive carrier and find out what model of drive is being used, then purchase a similar drive with the same physical specifications. By doing it yourself, you can usually save around $150-$200+. Let are then left with a good 2G bare drive which you can sell on Ebay to save even more money. If you want to have 2 complete drives, then you need to look around for companies which will sell the drive carrier. I really have only seen these for IBMs, but there might be companies with carriers for other computers. Usually spare parts for IBM, Toshiba, Dell, Compaq are quite easy to find. I would be glad to answer any more questions if you want to go investigate this route. johnl cmdrpc@att.net wrote: > > I have a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with a 2GB hard drive. I > would like to replace the hard drive and load either > FreeBSD or Linux right now the Libretto has win95. I > recently look at Toshiba's webpage and there are two > companies which make a replacement kit for the hard > drive. The first is CMS Storage their kit would replace > the 2GB drive with a 6GB drive. The other is Apricorn > and they have two kits a 6GB and a 12GB drive. Has > anyone used the kits from these companies if so what was > your experience? > THANKS > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Apr 13 21:36:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web108.yahoomail.com (web108.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB28D37B649 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:36:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eaglez69@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 25886 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Apr 2000 04:36:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000414043627.25885.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Received: from [130.65.210.24] by web108.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:36:27 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Eaglez Subject: Re: Upgrading Notebooks To: John Lengeling , cmdrpc@att.net Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, you should know that Libretto's are a bit different from your standard laptop. I personally call them "knee-top"s, because they're so small. That's not a standard 2.5" IDE hard drive in there. It's a 9" or 12" weird thing. I'm not sure. I actually didn't even think anybody COULD do replacements on that. I sorta got the impression that they were kinda built in, and that's why they're so small. I guess not. Anyway, (on the original question) how much do you think it's going to cost? I'm somewhat interested myself. I don't actually have a libretto right now, but i despiratly want one! heh... --- John Lengeling wrote: > I don't have specific experience with Libretto's, > but I have replaced > the hard drives in many other laptops from Dell, > Compaq, Toshiba, IBM, > etc. with off the shelf 2.5" IDE hard drives. CMS > and other companies > charge quite a premium for their replacement drives > when all they > consist of is the bare hard drive and the carrier to > hold it. > > If you are upgrading, I generally open up the > existing drive carrier and > find out what model of drive is being used, then > purchase a similar > drive with the same physical specifications. By > doing it yourself, you > can usually save around $150-$200+. Let are then > left with a good 2G > bare drive which you can sell on Ebay to save even > more money. > > If you want to have 2 complete drives, then you need > to look around for > companies which will sell the drive carrier. I > really have only seen > these for IBMs, but there might be companies with > carriers for other > computers. Usually spare parts for IBM, Toshiba, > Dell, Compaq are quite > easy to find. > > I would be glad to answer any more questions if you > want to go > investigate this route. > > johnl > > cmdrpc@att.net wrote: > > > > I have a Toshiba Libretto 100CT with a 2GB hard > drive. I > > would like to replace the hard drive and load > either > > FreeBSD or Linux right now the Libretto has win95. > I > > recently look at Toshiba's webpage and there are > two > > companies which make a replacement kit for the > hard > > drive. The first is CMS Storage their kit would > replace > > the 2GB drive with a 6GB drive. The other is > Apricorn > > and they have two kits a 6GB and a 12GB drive. > Has > > anyone used the kits from these companies if so > what was > > your experience? > > THANKS > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 2:46:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pandora.alice.net.uk (pandora.alice.net.uk [212.42.0.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A63C37B749 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 02:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aledm@routers.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pandora.alice.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA42473; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:43:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from aledm@routers.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:43:10 +0100 (BST) From: Aled Morris X-Sender: aledm@pandora.alice.net.uk To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: John Lengeling , cmdrpc@att.net, Eaglez Subject: Re: Upgrading Notebooks In-Reply-To: <20000414043627.25885.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Eaglez wrote: >OK, you should know that Libretto's are a bit >different from your standard laptop. I personally call >them "knee-top"s, because they're so small. That's not >a standard 2.5" IDE hard drive in there. It's a 9" or >12" weird thing. I'm not sure. When I used to have one (I got rid of it because it was just tooooo small to work on!) I investigated HDD upgrades. It is a normal 2.5" drive, but it is very thin - 9mm or so as I recall. You can get third party replacements (I think they are the same as appear in the IBM ThinkPad 560) and there are web sites that describe how to do it: http://pacher.netliberte.org/UK/e_12Go.htm Aled To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 6: 3:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from router.difi.de (router.difi.de [212.6.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71A437B5FE for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 06:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from max.difi.de (max [192.168.1.2]) by router.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16259 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:03:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Received: from difi.de (edv1.difi.de [192.168.1.54]) by max.difi.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA74603 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:03:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uwe.laverenz@difi.de) Message-ID: <38F71721.7D28EF5D@difi.de> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:03:29 +0200 From: Uwe Laverenz Organization: DIFI Dierk Filmer GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compaq ThunderLan (was:squid server) References: <38F5888D.2243A455@difi.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > I think upgrading wouldn't change anything. I have a Proliant 800 with a > Thunderlan NIC and the problem is just the same with FreeBSD 4.0. If I > can't fix this, I'll have to put in one of my last remaining DE-500BAs > from DEC... I've just installed Solaris8 on our new Proliant and the NIC runs fine?! So I guess it's not a hardware problem but a driver problem. Maybe they've used a new chip... Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 9: 5:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EB037B5D5 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA41346 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:05:06 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: from localhost.coe.ufrj.br(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "jonny.eng.br" via SMTP by localhost.coe.ufrj.br, id smtpdO41322; Fri Apr 14 13:04:49 2000 Message-ID: <38F74180.56A73B53@jonny.eng.br> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:04:16 -0300 From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: D-Link DFE-650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is there support for the PCMCIA Card D-Link DFE-650, Fast Ethernet, in FreeBSD? I'm affraid not, because it seens to be a CardBus device. I did not find any reference to DFE-650 in the web search. TIA, Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Engineer jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 10:49:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (zmamail03.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA4437B5C2 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 10:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.waite@compaq.com) Received: by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 306646BB; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.42]) by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17570670 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2X96ZYYX>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:49:16 -0400 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C3134@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 64bit servers Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:49:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So does any one know if FreeBSD is supported on the new Intel 64bit systems yet. I am getting five of those next week and am looking for operating systems to run on them. If FreeBSD can run on it I will put it on the Internet for all to use at http://www.testdrive.compaq.com -----Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 11:18:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAAC37BF47 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00750; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:22:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004141822.LAA00750@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Eaglez Cc: John Lengeling , cmdrpc@att.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading Notebooks In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:36:27 PDT." <20000414043627.25885.qmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:22:56 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > OK, you should know that Libretto's are a bit > different from your standard laptop. I personally call > them "knee-top"s, because they're so small. That's not > a standard 2.5" IDE hard drive in there. It's a 9" or > 12" weird thing. I'm not sure. I actually didn't even > think anybody COULD do replacements on that. I sorta > got the impression that they were kinda built in, and > that's why they're so small. I guess not. Er, I don't know what you're smoking, but the Libretto takes a standard low-profile 2.5" drive (12mm). You can also get a replacement bottom moulding that will let you install larger (17mm and up) drive. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Apr 14 14:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (rstcorp2.daf.concentric.net [216.112.242.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1008A37B67A for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23422; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:32:57 -0400 Received: from sandbox.rstcorp.com(10.1.30.2) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma023416; Fri, 14 Apr 00 20:32:28 GMT Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock.rstcorp.com [10.1.100.5]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29325; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (Postfix, from userid 93) id A2B845AED; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:29:59 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14583.36311.258358.695869@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:29:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Viren R.Shah" To: Ian Cartwright Cc: "FreeBSD Hardware (E-mail)" Subject: Re:Compaq EISA ida driver... In-Reply-To: <6D5097D4B56AD31190D50008C7B1579B6701BC@EXLAN5> References: <6D5097D4B56AD31190D50008C7B1579B6701BC@EXLAN5> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R.Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Ian" == Ian Cartwright writes: Ian> Hello all, I have been trying to persuade an old Compaq Proliant Ian> 2000 with an EISA SMART RAID controller to boot so I can install Ian> FreeBSD on it. I started with 4.0-RELEASE, and have moved on to Ian> 5.0-CURRENT in the hopes of getting the mfsroot boot disks to Ian> work. In a separate thread (one that got mangled, apparently) I Ian> described my woes. My question now is, would giving 3.4-STABLE Ian> or using an even older version of FreeBSD with the original ida Ian> driver written by Mark Dawson work? Apparently the version in Ian> >=4.0-RELEASE has a problem locking down the EISA resources for Ian> the SMART controllers... It might -- the only change I had to make was to hardcode in the port number used by the EISA RAID controller -- Mark Dawson's driver had problems correctly identifying it in my case (on 4.0-current from March 1999, not 3.4-STABLE). However, it looks like Matthew Dodd is getting closer to getting the driver working in out case, and you might want to consider waiting for that. Ian> Ian Cartwright Viren -- Viren R. Shah "Creeping featurism is a disease, fatal if not treated promptly" -- Don Norman in _The Design of Everyday Things_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 15 11:18:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from databus.databus.com (databus.databus.com [198.186.154.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 393F737B783 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barney@databus.databus.com) From: Barney Wolff To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:15 EDT Subject: thermal grease? Content-Length: 400 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <38f8b28a0.3ca7@databus.databus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would some kind soul give me a hint on where to acquire the thermal grease that everybody says must be placed between the cpu and its heat-sink/fan? The cheap parts places I deal with don't seem to carry it, nor does my local CompUSA, nor Radio Shack, nor computer store. All of them seem to just clip the fan to the chip and hope for the best. Thanks in advance, Barney Wolff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 15 11:25:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D585537B70F for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17050; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:25:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <200004151825.NAA17050@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: thermal grease? To: barney@databus.com (Barney Wolff) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <38f8b28a0.3ca7@databus.databus.com> from "Barney Wolff" at Apr 15, 2000 02:15:00 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Would some kind soul give me a hint on where to acquire the thermal > grease that everybody says must be placed between the cpu and its > heat-sink/fan? The cheap parts places I deal with don't seem to > carry it, nor does my local CompUSA, nor Radio Shack, nor computer store. > All of them seem to just clip the fan to the chip and hope for the best. > Thanks in advance, > Barney Wolff In a pinch, a very very thin layer of silicon grease (the white kind) seems to work well. Too much is bad. all you want is enough to fill up the tiny cracks and texture of the proc's top and the bottom of the heat sink. Less is more. :) -- Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 15 11:27:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E652037B8EA for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA42890; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: Barney Wolff Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: thermal grease? In-Reply-To: Message from Barney Wolff of "Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:15:00 EDT." <38f8b28a0.3ca7@databus.databus.com> X-Image-URL: http://www.codegen.com/images/CG-logo-only.gif X-URL: http://www.codegen.com X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:27:48 -0700 Message-ID: <42882.955823268@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's odd - I found a tiny tube of the stuff in a Radio Shack around here. It was in the electronics do-it-yourself parts section (with PC boards, sockets, chips, etc) and not in the computer section. I've also seen big tubes of the stuff in real electronics parts supply stores, but not all of them carry the goo. You may want to call around and ask. Good luck! -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Apr 15 14:49: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.25.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DFB37B5C9 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohoyer@fbwi.fh-wilhelmshaven.de) Received: from fettesau.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (stuwopc5.stuwo.fh-wilhelmshaven.de [139.13.209.5]) by mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA12496 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:48:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <4.1.20000415234212.00c63c00@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> X-Sender: ohoyer@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:47:13 +0200 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Olaf Hoyer Subject: Re: thermal grease? In-Reply-To: <42882.955823268@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> References: <38f8b28a0.3ca7@databus.databus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:27 15.04.00 -0700, you wrote: > >That's odd - I found a tiny tube of the stuff in a Radio Shack around >here. It was in the electronics do-it-yourself parts section (with PC >boards, sockets, chips, etc) and not in the computer section. > Hi! Well, not that odd... Most of that part is used to put between transistors and their heatsink befor they are screwed together... So any electronic shop should carry that... CPU is not that wide application field. But, unless you are running a very stressed CPU (24h/7day server use, overclocked thingie or highest-end one like Athlon 1 GHz) then in normal cases you can leave out the thermal grease. Most coolers nowadays have some plastiv sheet under them that also helps in distributing the energy from CPU to cooler, and also prevents direct metal contact, which is helpful in case of power spikes... For real hard-core overclockers, there is special silver grease... Regards Olaf Hoyer -------- Olaf Hoyer www.nightfire.de mailto:Olaf.Hoyer@nightfire.de FreeBSD- Turning PC's into workstations ICQ:22838075 Liebe und Hass sind nicht blind, aber geblendet vom Feuer, dass sie selber mit sich tragen. (Nietzsche) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message