accounting on a seperate server

From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 1:58:38 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 01:58:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91C337B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from wanadoo (193.251.93.105) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 10 Dec 2000 10:58:34 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01c0628f$94ed5100$0a00000a@wanadoo> From: "RRIVIERE" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:57:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C06297.F5E84E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C06297.F5E84E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C06297.F5E84E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C06297.F5E84E80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 3:56:20 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 03:56:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from beta.root-servers.ch (beta.root-servers.ch [195.49.33.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B041337B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 03:56:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19948 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2000 11:56:10 -0000 Received: from dclient106-244.hispeed.ch (HELO WORK) (62.2.106.244) by beta.root-servers.ch with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 11:56:10 -0000 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:56:34 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <794582592.20001210125634@buz.ch> To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re[2]: Load-Balancing - any solutions? In-reply-To: <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> References: <105102226954.20001205163641@x-itec.de> <20001205074217.Y8051@fw.wintelcom.net> <5676150678.20001205165002@buz.ch> <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Giorgos, Saturday, December 09, 2000, 4:10:28 PM, you wrote: >> I'm still looking for something somewhat faster (i.e. no more than a few >> seconds lag between the master and the slave servers)... > I really don't know what will happen in web servers that have high > loads, but what you describe seems to remind me of NFS. NFSv3 doesn't have server replication, does it? I know that NFSv4 has got some mechanism to do server replication but AFAIK is this only a draft without any working implementation so far. I tryed a combination of NFS and cpdup which turned out to be ok with some hundred MB of content but over 1Gb it got way too slow so I'm still thinking that there's a hook into the FS layer is needed in order to get the changes fast enough (syncing the data wasn't the problem during my tests, triggering the sync was). I for myself am still waiting for a nice distributed CVSFS anyway ;-). > On a side note, having read the thread so far, I like the Squid > solution for quickly changing, dynamic stuff. But, even if you have a > setup like: > Internet --> Squid --+--> Apache (1) --+--> SQL server > | | > +--> Apache (2) --+ > : : > +--> Apache (n) --+ > You are going to have a bottleneck not in the time it takes Apache to > load and process a page, but on your SQL server. But if you use more > than one SQL servers, you are going to need database mirroring too. Which is still easier to accomplish in realtime than to mirror a whole filesystem in realtime. Despite the fact, that some RDBMS have got replication (or something which is called that way but not useable ;-) out of the box, you can always write some kind of wrapper which will pass SELECT queries right through while INSERT/UPDATE ones are distributed among the DB servers (the real problem starts when you have more updates than a server is able to handle... from that point only design optimization will help) or integrate it right into the application code. There are several attempts to implement the wrapper for MySQL. IIRC was one even integrated into MySQL itself, so there's no additional IPC required. Not sure about PostGRE, people who ought to know tell that Oracle replication is a PITA. > The problem of getting two web servers to respond with the `same' data > seems to be more complicated than plain `rsync' of two directories :/ rsync itself is dumb simple. But way too slow for big servers (say 50GB HTML+graphics). > I would be very interested to know what other people have to say on > this one, though. Oh, and when this becomes kind of off-topic for > -questions, perhaps we should take it to -chat. Hmm. -ISP looks more appriorate to me... Best regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 4: 8:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 04:08:08 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from avengers.ivision.co.uk (avengers.ivision.co.uk [212.25.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF29237B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 04:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bh-cw131-019.pool.dircon.co.uk ([194.112.62.19] helo=manar.ivision.co.uk) by avengers.ivision.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 1455Gm-0001Pb-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:07:56 +0000 Message-Id: <4.3.1.0.20001210115834.00ddfbb0@avengers.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@avengers.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 12:01:47 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re[2]: Load-Balancing - any solutions? In-Reply-To: <794582592.20001210125634@buz.ch> References: <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> <105102226954.20001205163641@x-itec.de> <20001205074217.Y8051@fw.wintelcom.net> <5676150678.20001205165002@buz.ch> <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm - haven't tracked this thread but there is a whole class of device built around allowing web server load balancing. Alteon's / BigIP boxes etc. Cost a reasonable amount but they are well suited to provide a quick, easy and good solution to the problem. Manar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 4:38:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 04:38:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from roam.home.net (idf7-17-166.adsl.proxad.net [213.228.17.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2A137B401 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 04:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roam.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01493; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:42:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.hallgren@free.fr) Sender: mh@roam.home.net Message-ID: <3A337A25.E2074762@free.fr> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 13:42:13 +0100 From: Michael Hallgren Reply-To: m.hallgren@free.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, sv, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manar Hussain Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? References: <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> <105102226954.20001205163641@x-itec.de> <20001205074217.Y8051@fw.wintelcom.net> <5676150678.20001205165002@buz.ch> <20001209171028.A32137@hades.hell.gr> <4.3.1.0.20001210115834.00ddfbb0@avengers.ivision.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Manar Hussain wrote: > > Hmm - haven't tracked this thread but there is a whole class of device > built around allowing web server load balancing. Alteon's / BigIP boxes > etc. Cost a reasonable amount but they are well suited to provide a quick, > easy and good solution to the problem. > For some generic things in this context, it might be interesting to take a look at the drafts at http://www.content-alliance.net/ - mainly concerned with frameworks for peering at the content layer (between content delivery networks). An interesting implementation of the kind is provided by Activia (http://www.activia.net/). For another nice implementation, check out the Foundry Network's way. Cheers Michael > Manar > -- Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr/, MH2198-RIPE "Be careful what you sell. It may do exactly what the customer expects." - Ferengi #32 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 5:53:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 05:53:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from metva.com.au (metva.com.au [202.0.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF27637B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 05:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from enno@localhost) by metva.com.au id AAA02325; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:53:15 +1100 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <200012101353.AAA02325@metva.com.au> Subject: Re: Re[2]: Load-Balancing - any solutions? In-Reply-To: <794582592.20001210125634@buz.ch> from Gabriel Ambuehl at "Dec 10, 0 12:56:34 pm" To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch (Gabriel Ambuehl) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:53:14 +1100 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: | | Hello Giorgos, | Saturday, December 09, 2000, 4:10:28 PM, you wrote: | | >> I'm still looking for something somewhat faster (i.e. no more than a few | >> seconds lag between the master and the slave servers)... | > I really don't know what will happen in web servers that have high | > loads, but what you describe seems to remind me of NFS. A lot of web hosting shops use a single fileserver backend with multiple load balanced frontends serving to the web. Typically the Filer products seem highly regarded in this market (ie. RAID disks with redundancy in the server hardware too). Load balancing in front of the front ends is also done with redundant hardware and typically the load balancers can also do some QA work for you. F5's Big/IP is fairly good at this in fact in that it can compare the data being returned from each webserver and raise alarms when the same URL results in differing output. Typically you only ask the boxes to watch static pages (of course) but it does mean you have some assurance that when the data is changed in the file server it was served that way by the frontends in a timely manner. I assume the other high-end load balancers have similar abilities these days too. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 17:48:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 17:48:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C54D37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA43808 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:48:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma043799; Mon, 11 Dec 00 12:47:54 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03757 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:47:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:47:52 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ntop 1.3.2 on FreeBSD runs much better (than formerly) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to say that ntop 1.3.2 has had significant work done on the threading components to make it work considerably better under FreeBSD 4.x (courtsey Nicloai Petri and the ntop developer Luca Deri) I have been happily running under 4.0-R and 4.1-R for a week or so now without too many problems. If you are thinking of a high performance, built-for-Unix, GPLd, Network accounting program (like Netramet but with more hooks and a web interface), then it's worth a look. The ntop site (http://www.ntop.org) has a preview release (26th of October) that does not run in multi-threaded mode. If you want less build problems (gmake is a precondition) and multi-threading get the latest CVS snapshot from Nicolai Petri at http://snapshot.ntop.org/. Thank you. Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 19:42:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 19:42:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3CEB37B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:42:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA49907; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:42:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from disc-4-161.aipo.gov.au(10.0.4.161) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma049892; Mon, 11 Dec 00 14:42:10 +1100 Received: from localhost (anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03798; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:42:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:42:08 +1100 (EST) From: Stanley Hopcroft X-Sender: anwsmh@stan.aipo.gov.au To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Netsaint@Netsaint.ORG Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? In-Reply-To: <3A337A25.E2074762@free.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing with some extra stuff about ways of server load balancing that haven't been mentioned in other correspondence about this matter. The Foundy ServerIron (SI) is a well regarded means of doing Server Load Balancing (SLB) and a few other clever things also. The SLB operates using a battery of health checks on the servers it is load balancing. The most important of these are layer 7 or content based checks. The SI can send a GET request to the servers and respond to . content from the real servers using regular expression pattern matching for a good|bad pattern in the HTML returned by the server . 4xx or 5xx return codes . a combination of the above There is no necessity to do this in the SI hardware; the general method of - of a third part checking the health of servers and - reacting to change the selected server according to the results of the health checks can be implemented in other ways. The Netsaint network monitor (http://www.netsaint.org) for example, has had for some time the ability to execute "service handlers" if its content sensitive health checks reveal faults (it too can use regexps to check the returned HTML for pattersn of interest) A service handler is arbitrary code that could for example via a secure channel (ssh) reconfigure the rewriting configuation of an Apache load balancing rewrite box to rewrite requests elsewhere. The service handler could achieve the same result by other mechanisms (as is done by the Foundry Global Server Load Balancing method) such as using the Dynamic DNS capability to select another (by changing the address corresponding to the failed name so that all requests for the failed server will end up at another) server. Eliminating manual intervention in bringing on-line a warm duplicate server may be feasable by a health check triggered change of interface address or state in the standby duplicate. Likewise, routing decisions (in situations where it's undesirable to do so with a routing protocol, perhaps in a firewall situation) may be done by a health check leading to a secure channel update of a static routing table. Perhaps a more extreme case is where a network Intrusion Detection System (IDS)is used to measure health and react with SNMP writes or traps to reconfigure other infrastructure (IDSs such as the ISS Real Secure and the Cisco IDS have this capacity already but it is not difficult to fit to any IDS that has the capacity of running code when it recognises an attack signature). A host-based IDS need not behave so radically; it could react to suspicious log messages by calling someone. That said, there are cases where the SIs capacity to collect comprehensive health indications such as - layer 1 (switch or NIC link signal, when the servers are plugged into the SI) - layer 3 (network reachability) - layer 4 (accepting server port connections) - layer 7 (reacting to a request) and react to them blazingly quickly can't be substituted for. There are other software methods of doing SLB for specific servers. The Eddie Mission (?) does so for DNS servers. Thank you. Yours sincerely, S Hopcroft Network Specialist IP Australia +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 FAX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 20:45:32 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 20:45:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B91037B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from fire ([63.194.3.101]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G5D004JHZO2DX@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:40:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:43:08 -0800 From: matt Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? To: Stanley Hopcroft , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: matt Message-id: <002c01c0632c$dcc2d200$6503c23f@XGforce.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did you check the DNS based load balance and fail safe cluster from WWW.XGFORCE.COM. What do you think? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Hopcroft To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? > Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, > > I am writing with some extra stuff about ways of server load balancing > that haven't been mentioned in other correspondence about this matter. > > The Foundy ServerIron (SI) is a well regarded means of doing Server > Load Balancing (SLB) and a few other clever things also. > > The SLB operates using a battery of health checks on the servers it is > load balancing. The most important of these are layer 7 or content > based checks. The SI can send a GET request to the servers and respond > to > > . content from the real servers using regular expression > pattern matching for a good|bad pattern in the HTML returned by the > server > > . 4xx or 5xx return codes > > . a combination of the above > > There is no necessity to do this in the SI hardware; the general method > of > > - of a third part checking the health of servers and > - reacting to change the selected server according to the results of > the health checks > > can be implemented in other ways. > > The Netsaint network monitor (http://www.netsaint.org) for example, has > had for some time the ability to execute "service handlers" if its > content sensitive health checks reveal faults (it too can use regexps > to check the returned HTML for pattersn of interest) > > A service handler is arbitrary code that could for example via a > secure channel (ssh) reconfigure the rewriting configuation of > an Apache load balancing rewrite box to rewrite requests elsewhere. > > The service handler could achieve the same result by other mechanisms > (as is done by the Foundry Global Server Load Balancing method) such > as using the Dynamic DNS capability to select another (by changing the > address corresponding to the failed name so that all requests for the > failed server will end up at another) server. > > Eliminating manual intervention in bringing on-line a warm duplicate > server may be feasable by a health check triggered change of interface > address or state in the standby duplicate. > > Likewise, routing decisions (in situations where it's undesirable to do > so with a routing protocol, perhaps in a firewall situation) may be > done by a health check leading to a secure channel update of a static > routing table. > > Perhaps a more extreme case is where a network Intrusion Detection > System (IDS)is used to measure health and react with SNMP writes or > traps to reconfigure other infrastructure (IDSs such as the ISS Real > Secure and the Cisco IDS have this capacity already but it is not > difficult to fit to any IDS that has the capacity of running code when > it recognises an attack signature). A host-based IDS need not behave so > radically; it could react to suspicious log messages by calling > someone. > > That said, there are cases where the SIs capacity to collect > comprehensive health indications such as > > - layer 1 (switch or NIC link signal, when the servers are plugged > into the SI) > - layer 3 (network reachability) > - layer 4 (accepting server port connections) > - layer 7 (reacting to a request) > > and react to them blazingly quickly can't be substituted for. > > There are other software methods of doing SLB for specific servers. The > Eddie Mission (?) does so for DNS servers. > > Thank you. > > Yours sincerely, > > > S Hopcroft > > Network Specialist > IP Australia > > +61 2 6283 3189 > +61 2 6281 1353 FAX > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Dec 10 20:51: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 20:51:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from calulu.shearer.org (unknown [139.130.30.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0D137B400 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 20:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from calulu.shearer.org ([192.168.1.1]) by calulu.shearer.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 145KtM-0002Y3-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:18:48 +1030 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:18:48 +1030 (CST) From: Dan Shearer To: matt Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? In-Reply-To: <002c01c0632c$dcc2d200$6503c23f@XGforce.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, matt wrote: > > Did you check the DNS based load balance and fail safe > cluster from WWW.XGFORCE.COM. What do you think? Another one to add to the list is eddie.sourceforge.net, from Ericsson's research labs in Melbourne. Especially if you like Erlang. -- Dan Shearer Open Source Manager dan@tellurian.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 3:26: 1 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:25:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445A737B6EA for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hitline.ch (mail.hitline.ch [195.129.74.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8120E6E2DE0 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (HELO [10.10.14.36]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b7) with ESMTP id 2894679 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:52:13 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: moshea%tronic-group.com@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 08:51:23 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: Load-Balancing - any solutions? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 3:18 PM +1030 12/11/00, Dan Shearer wrote: >On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, matt wrote: > >> >> Did you check the DNS based load balance and fail safe >> cluster from WWW.XGFORCE.COM. What do you think? > >Another one to add to the list is eddie.sourceforge.net, from Ericsson's >research labs in Melbourne. Especially if you like Erlang. > >-- >Dan Shearer >Open Source Manager >dan@tellurian.com.au Another good solution is Zeus Loadbalancer, http://www.zeus.com While not open source you do get a terrific product and great tech support. -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 3:59:16 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 03:59:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B707F37B731 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 03:58:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-secure.toplink.net (mail-secure.toplink.net [195.2.171.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D106E2FE3 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 01:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.toplink.net (mail-scan.toplink.net [195.2.171.141]) by mail-secure.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA43159; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:54:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-secure.toplink.net (mail-scan [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18456; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:18:56 +0100 Received: from babylon.toplink.net (babylon.toplink.net [195.2.171.90]) by mail-secure.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA43155; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:54:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ck@localhost) by babylon.toplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA47893; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:54:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 10:54:15 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Kratzer To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Corrupted File System? In-Reply-To: <3A32AEB1.A7A8D774@tcworks.net> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: de.toplink X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% X-Jihad: Will hunt down all cases of Spam and Net abuse. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sat, 9 Dec 2000, Chris Cook wrote: > This may be off topic, but I figured it would be a good place to ask... > we had one of our servers "lock up" for some reason. Had to reboot it > without shutting down properly and when it came up fsck ran and had some > errors. I told it to fix them all but I've now run fsck about 1000 > times and it still comes up with errors like the ones below... It cannot > seem to fix them, is this serious or do I not have to worry? I've even > deleted the mrtg directory, after replacing the files in that directory > from backup fsck will complain again... here is the output: [snipp] I would recommend that you backup whats left asap somewehere else and reformat the partition with newfs. Then restore.. You might also want to perform some kind of surface check on the disk to be sure that you don't have a hardware problem on this disk. Greetings -- TopLink Internet Services GmbH ck@171.2.195.in-addr.arpa Christian Kratzer http://www.toplink.net/ Phone: +49 7032 2701-0 Fax: +49 7032 2701-19 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 12:49:36 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:49:33 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.amigo.net (smtp2.amigo.net [209.94.64.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D3537B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from amigo.net ([209.94.67.250]) by smtp2.amigo.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205b ID# 0-39855U5000L500S0) with ESMTP id AAA24091 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:49:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3A353E00.9040102@amigo.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:50:08 -0700 From: Randy Smith Organization: Amigo.Net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001015 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail SMTP only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am moving my outgoing mail servers to sendmail on FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE. I am looking for a little advice configuring it for SMTP only. Basically, I'm just looking for little gotchas and things to look out for that you only find out about by falling into them and have one specific question. The server needs to relay for our IPs only but may users are sending using other domains. (ie The dial in to us but send email using their own domain.) Do I need to setup their domains in /etc/mail/relay-hosts or is that taken care of since they are assigned a local domain IP address? Thanks. -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Webmaster 719-589-6100 ext. 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 12:55:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 12:55:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arthur.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C298F37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 80635 invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2000 20:55:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tacni.net) (207.55.167.32) by arthur.tacni.net with SMTP; 11 Dec 2000 20:55:05 -0000 Message-ID: <3A353F35.55061AAB@tacni.net> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 14:55:17 -0600 From: Tom ONeil Reply-To: tom.oneil@instantisp.net Organization: InstantISP.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free Subject: SMB over internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone ever allow SMB to be used, either NT or Samba, for a server? I have a client who wants to share a database with remote employees. My gut reaction is no, but I don't know the protocol well enough to detail why it's a bad idea and what alternatives to offer. Tom -- Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@instantisp.net If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? ~Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 13:14:43 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 13:14:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cgi.sstar.com (cgi.sstar.com [209.205.176.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160F337B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.76.82]) by cgi.sstar.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBBLEUl39701 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:14:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <012c01c063b7$5d0ea620$524c8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: , "Free" References: <3A353F35.55061AAB@tacni.net> Subject: Re: SMB over internet Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:14:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Tom ONeil" wrote: > Anyone ever allow SMB to be used, either NT or Samba, for a server? I > have a client who wants to share a database with remote employees. > My gut reaction is no, but I don't know the protocol well enough to > detail why it's a bad idea and what alternatives to offer. I've done it with Samba and NT; it works. Of course it's best to do this via a VPN setup. If you can't do that at least tell Samba to use encrypted passwords and make sure the Windows boxes are setup the same way; NT 4.0 SP3 or later defaults to encrypted passwords, and I think Win98 and later default that way also. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 15: 3:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 15:03:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inago.swcp.com (inago.swcp.com [198.59.115.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A1637B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 15:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by inago.swcp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18453; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:02:58 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: inago.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:02:58 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@inago.swcp.com To: Jim King Cc: tom.oneil@instantisp.net, Free Subject: Re: SMB over internet In-Reply-To: <012c01c063b7$5d0ea620$524c8486@jking> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is also a way to tunnel SMB via SSL. http://www.google.com/search?q=samba+ssl On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Jim King wrote: > "Tom ONeil" wrote: > > > Anyone ever allow SMB to be used, either NT or Samba, for a server? I > > have a client who wants to share a database with remote employees. > > My gut reaction is no, but I don't know the protocol well enough to > > detail why it's a bad idea and what alternatives to offer. > > I've done it with Samba and NT; it works. > > Of course it's best to do this via a VPN setup. If you can't do that at > least tell Samba to use encrypted passwords and make sure the Windows boxes > are setup the same way; NT 4.0 SP3 or later defaults to encrypted > passwords, and I think Win98 and later default that way also. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 18:23:12 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 18:23:10 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741EE37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 18:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eBC2N3N10300 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org.AVP; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from marklaptop (dhcp56.amplex.net [209.57.124.56]) (authenticated) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBC2N2l10284 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: SMB over internet Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:23:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A353F35.55061AAB@tacni.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It works fine but is pretty miserable from a security standpoint. I would only suggest it in a tunnel or with a firewall to restrict access to specific IP ranges. Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Tom ONeil > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 3:55 PM > To: Free > Subject: SMB over internet > > > Anyone ever allow SMB to be used, either NT or Samba, for a server? I > have a client who wants to share a database with remote employees. > My gut reaction is no, but I don't know the protocol well enough to > detail why it's a bad idea and what alternatives to offer. > > Tom > -- > Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@instantisp.net > If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called > research, would it? > ~Albert Einstein > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Dec 11 21: 3:51 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 11 21:03:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9B537B402 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 21:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 145gv4-00070e-00; Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:20:02 -0800 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: tom.oneil@instantisp.net Cc: Free Subject: Re: SMB over internet In-Reply-To: <3A353F35.55061AAB@tacni.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Tom ONeil wrote: > Anyone ever allow SMB to be used, either NT or Samba, for a server? I > have a client who wants to share a database with remote employees. > My gut reaction is no, but I don't know the protocol well enough to > detail why it's a bad idea and what alternatives to offer. Hosting a multi-user database through a shared filesystem is usually bad news. Especially if this something like an MS-Access mdb file. Lots of companys figure mdb is pretty neat, until they setup workstations to access it. Trying to do it over an LAN will be worse. Time to look at a proper RDMS system... Sybase 11.0.3 is free for FreeBSD now! Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 6:42:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 06:42:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C9637B404 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA10457; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:47:53 +0100 Message-ID: <3A36398A.8FC2A586@i-clue.de> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:43:22 +0100 From: Christoph Sold Organization: i-clue GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Samplonius Cc: tom.oneil@instantisp.net, Free Subject: Re: SMB over internet References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Samplonius schrieb: > > [snip] > > Time to look at a proper RDMS system... Sybase 11.0.3 is free for > FreeBSD now! Oh really? I could not locate a port, thus: could you please elaborate where to get it? Thanks -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 8:12:11 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 08:12:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F285C37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:22:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: accounting on a seperate server Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:22:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C06457.B988E424" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C06457.B988E424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have 30 or so dial-up NAS machines, I want to have accounting turned on but I dont want it to account to my RADIUS server, does anyone know of any software that ALL it does is recieve accounting requests and log? Our logfiles (accounting) grow very quickly (about 80 meg a day) and I want to put together a machine that all it does is holds our dial-up logs so if one of our users spam or does something he shouldnt its easy to track them down. Anyone have any idea what im talking about? -Drew ------_=_NextPart_001_01C06457.B988E424 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable accounting on a seperate server

We have 30 = or so dial-up NAS machines, I want to have accounting turned on but I = dont want it to account to my RADIUS server, does anyone know of any = software that ALL it does is recieve accounting requests and log? Our = logfiles (accounting) grow very quickly (about 80 meg a day) and I want = to put together a machine that all it does is holds our dial-up logs so = if one of our users spam or does something he shouldnt its easy to = track them down. Anyone have any idea what im talking about?

-Drew

------_=_NextPart_001_01C06457.B988E424-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 8:24:18 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 08:24:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inu.net (mail.inu.net [63.151.4.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D937B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from inu.net [63.151.3.239] by inu.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A12989A01C4; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:24:09 -0600 Sender: bob@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A3650F9.8E186E7@inu.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:23:21 -0600 From: Bob Martin Organization: InterNet Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: accounting on a seperate server References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > "Drew J. Weaver" wrote: > > We have 30 or so dial-up NAS machines, I want to have > accounting turned on but I dont want it to account to my RADIUS > server, does anyone know of any software that ALL it does is recieve > accounting requests and log? Our logfiles (accounting) grow very > quickly (about 80 meg a day) and I want to put together a machine that > all it does is holds our dial-up logs so if one of our users spam or > does something he shouldnt its easy to track them down. Anyone have > any idea what im talking about? > > -Drew Every NAS I'm familiar with can log to a log server. Of course, it's a lot easier to have radius do the accounting too. You don't have to use the same machine for accounting that you use for authentication. -- Bob Martin, CTO InterNet Unlimited http://www.inu.net mailto:bob@inu.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 8:32:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 08:32:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F6037B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 08:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: 'Bob Martin' , "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: accounting on a seperate server Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:42:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0645A.8DCE4074" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0645A.8DCE4074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Right, I know but im asking if there is software that does just accounting? -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Bob Martin [mailto:bob@inu.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:23 AM To: 'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG' Subject: Re: accounting on a seperate server > "Drew J. Weaver" wrote: > > We have 30 or so dial-up NAS machines, I want to have > accounting turned on but I dont want it to account to my RADIUS > server, does anyone know of any software that ALL it does is recieve > accounting requests and log? Our logfiles (accounting) grow very > quickly (about 80 meg a day) and I want to put together a machine that > all it does is holds our dial-up logs so if one of our users spam or > does something he shouldnt its easy to track them down. Anyone have > any idea what im talking about? > > -Drew Every NAS I'm familiar with can log to a log server. Of course, it's a lot easier to have radius do the accounting too. You don't have to use the same machine for accounting that you use for authentication. -- Bob Martin, CTO InterNet Unlimited http://www.inu.net mailto:bob@inu.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0645A.8DCE4074 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: accounting on a seperate server

Right, I know but im asking if there is software that does just accounting?

-Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Martin [mailto:bob@inu.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:23 AM
To: 'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'
Subject: Re: accounting on a seperate server

> "Drew J. Weaver" wrote:
>
> We have 30 or so dial-up NAS machines, I want to have
> accounting turned on but I dont want it to account to my RADIUS
> server, does anyone know of any software that ALL it does is recieve
> accounting requests and log? Our logfiles (accounting) grow very
> quickly (about 80 meg a day) and I want to put together a machine that
> all it does is holds our dial-up logs so if one of our users spam or
> does something he shouldnt its easy to track them down. Anyone have
> any idea what im talking about?
>
> -Drew
Every NAS I'm familiar with can log to a log server. Of course, it's a
lot easier to have radius do the accounting too. You don't have to use
the same machine for accounting that you use for authentication.

--
Bob Martin, CTO
InterNet Unlimited
http://www.inu.net
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0645A.8DCE4074-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 9: 6:17 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 09:06:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inu.net (mail.inu.net [63.151.4.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419BE37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from inu.net [63.151.3.239] by inu.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB00A3701A0; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:06:08 -0600 Sender: bob@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A365AD0.49F93189@inu.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:05:20 -0600 From: Bob Martin Organization: InterNet Unlimited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: accounting on a seperate server References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > "Drew J. Weaver" wrote: > > Right, I know but im asking if there is software that does just > accounting? > > -Drew > I'll clarify. You have a server, we'll call it box1. It handles the authentication for your users. But you want the accounting to go to a differnt server, we'll call it box2. You install radius on box2, but you don't give it a list of users. You tell your NAS's to use box1 for radius authentication, and to use box2 for radius accounting. (And as a free bonus, you get a backup authentication server if you like) As an alternative to radius, you can write accounting to a log server, which will talk to the syslogd facility on your FreeBSD box. It is somewhat more involved to go this route, and while I've never seen a NAS that won't write to a syslog daemon, it's certainly less universal than radius. -- Bob Martin, CTO InterNet Unlimited http://www.inu.net mailto:bob@inu.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 9:29:36 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 09:29:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0169137B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id TAA12026; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 19:35:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3A3660BC.1030105@i-clue.de> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 18:30:36 +0100 From: Christoph Sold User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001211 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: gdbm References: <4.3.2.7.2.20001206025552.02e79f98@mail.futuredesigns.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike wrote: > Quick off topic question: > Would it be better/faster to pull configuration for a C or PHP cgi > from a text file, or GDBM db? The program will be accessed over > 200,000/day, so speed and reliability is a concern. Depends. If you have to start up gdbm and all its libs each time you access the data, and the configuration data is small, a text file would be faster. If you configuration data is lagre or you need complicated selection algorithms, gdbm may gain speed against simnply reading and sorting through a text file. In both cases, if there is enough memory, the OS will keep the files in RAM. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 10:39:26 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 10:39:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C74B37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 10:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 145teB-0000IK-00; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:55:27 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 09:55:13 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Christoph Sold Cc: tom.oneil@instantisp.net, Free Subject: Re: SMB over internet In-Reply-To: <3A36398A.8FC2A586@i-clue.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Christoph Sold wrote: > Tom Samplonius schrieb: > > > > [snip] > > > > Time to look at a proper RDMS system... Sybase 11.0.3 is free for > > FreeBSD now! > > Oh really? I could not locate a port, thus: could you please elaborate > where to get it? www.sybase.com Follow the links for Sybase 11.0.3 for Linux, and you will notice there is a FreeBSD version available too. Actually, only the client is a true FreeBSD version. The server is actually a Linux binary that is designed to run under FreeBSD. You should probably check the archives for freebsd-databases > Thanks > -Christoph Sold Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Dec 12 11:10:25 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 12 11:10:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [193.219.211.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B543D37B400 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 11:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBCJA8R73927; Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:10:12 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 21:10:08 +0200 (EET) From: Domas Mituzas X-Sender: midom@axis.tdd.lt To: "Drew J. Weaver" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: accounting on a seperate server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > if one of our users spam or does something he shouldnt its easy to track > them down. Anyone have any idea what im talking about? you may safely use second RADIUS server without any authentication realms, but with accounting enabled. It is possible to export all logs to sql databases or other data backends, therefore radius logs are not poluted with packet data. Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 4:17:59 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 04:17:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F8637B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 04:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (elite@localhost) by master.telia.net (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eBDCHg744923; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:17:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) X-Authentication-Warning: master.telia.net: elite owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:17:42 +0100 (CET) From: Khaled Daham X-Sender: elite@master.telia.net To: Lenz Gschwendtner Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP3 or IMAP. In-Reply-To: <20001207102433.C2411@heitec.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Lenz Gschwendtner wrote: > Hi Dmitry, > > On Thu, 07 Dec 2000, Tolpanov, Dmitry wrote: > > > I think it will good enouth any server with APOP support, but I can't find > > any port for FreeBSD. May someone advice something. > > With APOP the major problem is the supprted clients. as far as i know > only eudora supports this kind of authentication. And the fact that it is a lousy security since the server needs to know the plaintext password to generate the necessary md5 strings for authentication. so all passwords are more or less stored in plain text (qpopper eor's every char with 0xFF) > > And another thing. As most of e-mail clients now support IMAP4 and as it is > > more progressive and promising may be it is good idea to install IMAP > > server. But I can't find what type of authentication it use. Any advise > > appreciated. > > in IMAP there is a possibility to encrypt the password exchange. more > documentation can be found here: > http://www.washington.edu/imap/ pop3 + stunnel is a viable option, afaik only netscape6 and outlook supports pop3s, eudora is a strong goer for APOP ( since qualcomm more or less started working on APOP ). /Khaled Daham, w.arts Mail: khaled@w-arts.com Cell: +46-70-6785492, +966-54491462 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 6:23:22 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 06:23:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arka.ids.bielsko.pl (arka.ids.bielsko.pl [195.117.233.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8913B37B699 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by arka.ids.bielsko.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05634 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:18:51 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:18:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200012131418.PAA05634@arka.ids.bielsko.pl> Subject: New European Promotional Contest From: office@euroleader.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070C33C436192682FC31B74B" Sender: lider@arka.ids.bielsko.pl Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------070C33C436192682FC31B74B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Sirs, We are very pleased to welcome you and present a new economic initiative for producers from all European countries - both western and eastern. 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(mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45C8A37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7930 invoked by uid 501); 13 Dec 2000 15:06:29 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2000 15:06:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:06:29 -0200 (EDT) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Airport 1.2.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've installed the airport-1.2.2 from ports. When I try to run airpot it's returning: Class not found: AirportBaseStationConfigurator but that class is in /usr/local/share/airport directory, I'm new with java. Are there anyone using "airport" with freebsd? Is there any variables in the environment to chage? Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. -- __O _-\<,_ Why drive when you can bike? (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 7:17:19 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 07:17:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailin.sage.com (mailin.sage.com [194.75.150.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B573B37B404 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by EXCHANGE3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:17:28 -0000 Message-ID: <3127E548AD7DD4119FE900A0CC64D2D41B4ADD@EXCHANGE7> From: "Nuttall, Matthew" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache web access logs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:17:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm new to this Unix Lark, and I hope Im sending to the right list here, my problem is so ---------------- we are running apache and have around 100 virtual hosts, which I'm after setting up wwwstats for. I can get the program to work for the whole site ( I know not rocket science), but I'm wondering how to set it up for each virtual hosts. We were using seperate access logs for each one, but this kept crashing apache. So 1. Are there any scripts out there that could split up my original log. 2. Are there any better wwwstat programs (preferably implemented over a secure shell) 3. Its possible that one day we will have about a 1000 virtual hosts, is opening a log file for each of these feasible (ie no serious performance problems) Any advice, tips ,recipes welcome Matthew Nuttall, SysAdmin, Sage, Manchester. England. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 7:22:55 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 07:22:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D94737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: "'Nuttall, Matthew'" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache web access logs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:33:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0651A.04BEA272" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651A.04BEA272 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" When you specify each of your virtuals in the httpd.conf file you can add a line to each one of them to specify a different log path. ErrorLog /var/www/orbityl/error_log LogLevel Warn LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b\"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" com$ LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent This is an example, there is probably a command for AccessLog too, check http://www.apache.org Just list the ErrorLog or AccessLog path in your site definitions. -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Nuttall, Matthew [mailto:matthew.nuttall@sage.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:18 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache web access logs Hi, I'm new to this Unix Lark, and I hope Im sending to the right list here, my problem is so ---------------- we are running apache and have around 100 virtual hosts, which I'm after setting up wwwstats for. I can get the program to work for the whole site ( I know not rocket science), but I'm wondering how to set it up for each virtual hosts. We were using seperate access logs for each one, but this kept crashing apache. So 1. Are there any scripts out there that could split up my original log. 2. Are there any better wwwstat programs (preferably implemented over a secure shell) 3. Its possible that one day we will have about a 1000 virtual hosts, is opening a log file for each of these feasible (ie no serious performance problems) Any advice, tips ,recipes welcome Matthew Nuttall, SysAdmin, Sage, Manchester. England. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651A.04BEA272 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Apache web access logs

When you = specify each of your virtuals in the httpd.conf file you can add a line = to each one of them to specify a different log path.

ErrorLog /var/www/orbityl/error_log
    LogLevel Warn
    LogFormat "%h %l %u %t = \"%r\" %>s %b\"%{Referer}i\" = \"%{User-Agent}i\"" com$
    LogFormat "%h %l %u %t = \"%r\" %>s %b" common
    LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> = %U" referer
    LogFormat = "%{User-agent}i" agent

This is an example, there is probably a command for = AccessLog too, check http://www.apache.org Just list the ErrorLog or = AccessLog path in your site definitions.

-Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Nuttall, Matthew [mailto:matthew.nuttall@sage.com= ]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:18 AM
To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject: Apache web access logs

Hi,
I'm new to this Unix Lark, and I hope Im = sending to the right list here,
my problem is so

----------------
we are running apache and have around 100 virtual = hosts, which I'm after
setting up wwwstats for.
I can get the program to work for the whole site ( I = know not rocket
science), but I'm wondering how to set it up for = each virtual hosts.

We were using seperate access logs for each one, but = this kept crashing
apache. So

1. Are there any scripts out there that could = split up my original log.
2. Are there any better wwwstat programs = (preferably implemented over a
secure shell)
3. Its possible that one day we will have = about a 1000 virtual hosts, is
opening a log file for each of these feasible (ie no = serious performance
problems)

Any advice, tips ,recipes welcome

Matthew Nuttall,
SysAdmin,
Sage,
Manchester.
England.

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with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body = of the message

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651A.04BEA272-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 7:29: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 07:29:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.ca (epsilon.lucida.ca [216.95.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D667737B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22792 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Dec 2000 15:29:00 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2000 15:29:00 -0000 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:28:59 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Heckaman X-Sender: matt@epsilon.lucida.ca To: "Drew J. Weaver" Cc: "'Nuttall, Matthew'" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache web access logs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote: ... : This is an example, there is probably a command for AccessLog too, : check http://www.apache.org Just list the ErrorLog or AccessLog path : in your site definitions. I use "CustomLog" inside the virtual host directive, ie: ErrorLog /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/error.log CustomLog /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/access.log common * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE6N5W8dMMtMcA1U5ARAgwSAJ4x/Hl5K6q8yPbLEWsiso1nx+JLDACfQf1w 780Hwrg1ziUNi6/nxmOqra0= =/TlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 7:30: 4 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 07:29:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D372037B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:40:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: 'Matt Heckaman' Cc: "'Nuttall, Matthew'" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache web access logs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:40:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0651B.0311FAEA" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651B.0311FAEA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ya I knew there was a way to do that I just have never needed to =) -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Matt Heckaman [mailto:matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:29 AM To: Drew J. Weaver Cc: 'Nuttall, Matthew'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Apache web access logs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote: ... : This is an example, there is probably a command for AccessLog too, : check http://www.apache.org Just list the ErrorLog or AccessLog path : in your site definitions. I use "CustomLog" inside the virtual host directive, ie: ErrorLog /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/error.log CustomLog /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/access.log common * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ * * GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.qc.ca/pgp iD8DBQE6N5W8dMMtMcA1U5ARAgwSAJ4x/Hl5K6q8yPbLEWsiso1nx+JLDACfQf1w 780Hwrg1ziUNi6/nxmOqra0= =/TlJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651B.0311FAEA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Apache web access logs

Ya I knew there was a way to do that I just have = never needed to =3D)

-Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Heckaman [mailto:matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET]=
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 10:29 AM
To: Drew J. Weaver
Cc: 'Nuttall, Matthew'; = freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject: RE: Apache web access logs

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On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote:
...
: This is an example, there is probably a command = for AccessLog too,
: check http://www.apache.org Just list the ErrorLog or = AccessLog path
: in your site definitions.

I use "CustomLog" inside the virtual host = directive, ie:

= ErrorLog = /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/error.log
CustomLog = /var/apache/logs/www.lucida.qc.ca/access.log common

* Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.qc.ca http://www.lucida.qc.ca/ *
* GPG fingerprint - A9BC F3A8 278E 22F2 9BDA = BFCF 74C3 2D31 C035 5390 *

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0651B.0311FAEA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 10: 9:31 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:09:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BBA37B698 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: news peering/feeding Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:19:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C06531.4B5B167C" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C06531.4B5B167C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anyone have any suggestions on some good preferably inexpensive NNTP peering/feeding services? -Drew ------_=_NextPart_001_01C06531.4B5B167C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable news peering/feeding

Anyone = have any suggestions on some good preferably inexpensive NNTP = peering/feeding services?

-Drew

------_=_NextPart_001_01C06531.4B5B167C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 10:19: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:18:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.officeonweb.net (ns1.officeonweb.net [209.61.157.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAB237B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sami002 ([199.239.2.143]) by ns1.officeonweb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA30238 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:19:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from mdickerson@officeonweb.net) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20001213111738.009a0e60@officeonweb.net> X-Sender: succes03@officeonweb.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:17:38 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: mdickerson@officeonweb.net Subject: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I apologize that this is more of a sendmail question but I thought someone here might know this one. We have a client that is unable to send out mail. He is connecting to the server (though not able to send mail) but I find this error in the logfile: Dec 13 08:53:51 ns1 sendmail[29411]: NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] This is a solo entry (no other related lines in the logfile). Eratta: He uses Outlook. He uses Qwest DSL (static ip: a.b.c.d). We use a pop before smtp auth which works fine for our other clients. The sendmail site suggests: "If it happens very often, it's either someone playing around or it's a network problem." Unfortunately, this is only mildy illuminating :/. Does anyone know what is causing this or how to resolve this issue? TIA, Mike Dickerson OfficeOnWeb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 10:30:46 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 10:30:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wolf.ncia.net (wolf.ncia.net [207.140.8.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7869137B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rjtaylor@localhost) by wolf.ncia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06285 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:30:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:30:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan J. Taylor" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: news peering/feeding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Drew, On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote: > > Anyone have any suggestions on some good preferably inexpensive NNTP > peering/feeding services? > > -Drew > We use Cidera's satellite feed. It's very reasonably priced and full featured, especially with terrestrial bandwidth being so expensive where I am. Also, Akamai (http://www.akamai.com/) throws in a free satellite news feed when you host their, also free, cache servers. Worth checking out. RJ --------------------- Ryan J. Taylor Systems/Network Administrator NCIA rj@ncia.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 11:48:49 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 11:48:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from predator.atlantic.net (predator.atlantic.net [209.208.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113BA37B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mdj@localhost) by predator.atlantic.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDJmVL32267; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:48:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: predator.atlantic.net: mdj owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:48:31 -0500 (EST) From: Mike To: "Drew J. Weaver" Cc: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: news peering/feeding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you are willing to spend ~$300/month you can get a feed from Cidera. I get about a million articles a day via satellite. My switch stats show a constant 20+ Mbit stream on incoming articles. Mike On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote: > Anyone have any suggestions on some good preferably inexpensive NNTP > peering/feeding services? > > -Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 11:57:27 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 11:57:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from berlin.atlantic.net (berlin.atlantic.net [209.208.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FB837B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rio.atlantic.net (rio.atlantic.net [209.208.0.4]) by berlin.atlantic.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBDK0q008049; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:00:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (mp@localhost) by rio.atlantic.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA19617; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:57:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:57:22 -0500 (EST) From: Marty To: Mike Cc: "Drew J. Weaver" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: news peering/feeding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm.. We only see about 16 from here :) -mp On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Mike wrote: > If you are willing to spend ~$300/month you can get a feed from Cidera. I > get about a million articles a day via satellite. My switch stats show > a constant 20+ Mbit stream on incoming articles. > Mike > > > On > Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew J. Weaver wrote: > > > Anyone have any suggestions on some good preferably inexpensive NNTP > > peering/feeding services? > > > > -Drew > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 14:24: 3 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 14:23:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from negril.msrce.howard.edu (negril.msrce.howard.edu [138.238.128.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4528137B402 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jackson@localhost) by negril.msrce.howard.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22051; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:23:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:23:13 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Jackson To: mdickerson@officeonweb.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20001213111738.009a0e60@officeonweb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Most likely Outlook is using a ms "feature" that is causing this. I have seen this problem when clients were set to to secure connections but the server wasn't. Aaron On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote: > I apologize that this is more of a sendmail question but I thought someone > here might know this one. > > We have a client that is unable to send out mail. > He is connecting to the server (though not able to send mail) but I find > this error in the logfile: > > Dec 13 08:53:51 ns1 sendmail[29411]: NOQUEUE: Null connection from > some.domain [a.b.c.d] > > This is a solo entry (no other related lines in the logfile). > > Eratta: > He uses Outlook. > He uses Qwest DSL (static ip: a.b.c.d). > We use a pop before smtp auth which works fine for our other clients. > > The sendmail site suggests: > "If it happens very often, it's either someone playing around or it's a > network problem." > Unfortunately, this is only mildy illuminating :/. > > Does anyone know what is causing this or how to resolve this issue? > > TIA, > > Mike Dickerson > OfficeOnWeb.net > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 18:17:57 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 18:17:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ebola.biohz.net (ebola.biohz.net [206.80.1.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD24D37B698 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from flu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ebola.biohz.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7775A3A3CC; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:17:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <018301c06574$11da3a20$0402010a@biohz.net> From: "Renaud Waldura" To: "Paulo Fragoso" , References: Subject: Re: Airport 1.2.2 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 18:17:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try: $ export CLASSPATH=/usr/local/share/airport:$CLASSPATH ----- Original Message ----- From: Paulo Fragoso To: Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:06 AM Subject: Airport 1.2.2 > Hi, > > I've installed the airport-1.2.2 from ports. When I try to run airpot it's > returning: > > Class not found: AirportBaseStationConfigurator > > but that class is in /usr/local/share/airport directory, I'm new with > java. Are there anyone using "airport" with freebsd? Is there any > variables in the environment to chage? > > Thanks, > Paulo Fragoso. > > -- > __O > _-\<,_ Why drive when you can bike? > (_)/ (_) > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 13 23:33: 8 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 23:33:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from joe.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F28937B400 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2000 23:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from temp19 (temp23.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.123]) by joe.halenet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA19148 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:27:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from timbo@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <072f01c065a0$7a89d540$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> From: "Tim McCullagh" To: Subject: Merit radius and Mysql Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:35:47 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Is anyone using merit radius and exporting the radius records directly to a mysql or postgres database. If so can you point me in the direction to any documentation on how to do it TIA Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 14 0: 7:21 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 00:07:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from icon.icon.bg (icon.bg [62.176.80.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 857F437B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:07:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16223 invoked by uid 1144); 14 Dec 2000 08:11:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:11:03 +0200 From: Victor Ivanov To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: Tim McCullagh Subject: Re: Merit radius and Mysql Message-ID: <20001214101103.A15877@icon.icon.bg> References: <072f01c065a0$7a89d540$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <072f01c065a0$7a89d540$6500a8c0@halenet.com.au>; from timbo@halenet.com.au on Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:35:47PM +1000 Sender: v0rbiz@icon.icon.bg Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 05:35:47PM +1000, Tim McCullagh wrote: > Hi >=20 > Is anyone using merit radius and exporting the radius records directly to= a > mysql or postgres database. If so can you point me in the direction to a= ny > documentation on how to do it You can add an an AATV for the authentication, this part is quite easy, although I don't know what type of AATV should be used. I'm using AATV_DIRE= CT, which blocks the daemon while you're checking passwords and etc. The AATV cookbook is the documentation you need, and looking at the source of course. For accounting purposes I guess you should hack the FSM table, but don't kn= ow a working solution. Currently I'm intercepting calls to the original functi= on and doing my stuff there (don't need that text detail files anyway). I know there is working solution with MySQL which puts *all* configuration files in tables. It's not ported to the freebsd ports collection yet, but y= ou can find it at freshmeat searching for radiusd-sql (and probably compile it with minor fixes). The other modification of radius which was recommended to me was ICRADIUS, it's not ported to the collection too, but it is ported to FreeBSD. It uses mysql and has nice web interface. Haven't tried that also :). Hope this helps a bit... --=20 Players win and Winners play Have a lucky day --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBOjiAlfD9M5lef5W3AQFxvQQArjjpss4AUUAy+gBbf33DIsxqogB9F13H 9/0pj0PKEm0oblj0Tsg4o97CFl67htrBFEgKIN/MEvPTK6r+p/1srLGSXeBpJ4h5 ytjYx1Arhd0g5TPOwPUOfVV4g1YB1rReE9o2ZCba3wzluo3ysxLYYkgRU9qsVq4g tUGKc23YiqA= =JuB7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 14 5:47: 0 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 05:46:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sun2.siteone.net (ns2.site-one.com [209.246.218.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F3B37B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:46:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from David (wan104.siteone.net [209.246.218.40]) by sun2.siteone.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA06615 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:48:08 -0500 From: "David Lawson" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: PRINTING REPORTS Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:46:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C065AA.6B5126A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C065AA.6B5126A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a little off topic but I thought someone might know how to do this. I'm working on a program that need to print reports from the server. We have all the info stored in a SQL database and we want to generate reports from some of that info and send it to the printer. The report is a file on the server that when we ask to print a certain report the server looks at the report and gathers the info need. There is a program that interacts with our program to handle the printing the program also has a report designer. I have only been able to find one program that does this (EnterpriseSoft Enterprise Reports) http://www.enterprisesoft.com the only problem is that it is java. FilePro has something like it but it is only for FilePro and I don't want to use it. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks David L. Lawson Technical Support Manager Partner Alliance Director Site One Networks, Inc. 302-337-8800 Phone 800-354-5434 Toll Free 302-337-3915 Fax ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C065AA.6B5126A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This = is a little off=20 topic but I thought someone might know how to do this. I'm working on a = program=20 that need to print reports from the server. We have all the info stored = in a SQL=20 database and we want to generate reports from some of that info and send = it to=20 the printer. The report is a file on the server that when we ask to = print a=20 certain report the server looks at the report and gathers the info need. = There=20 is a program that interacts with our program to handle the = printing=20 the program also has a report designer. I have only been able to = find one=20 program that does this (EnterpriseSoft Enterprise Reports) http://www.enterprisesoft.com = the only=20 problem is that it is java. FilePro has something like it but it is only = for=20 FilePro and I don't want to use it. If anyone could help I would greatly = appreciate it.

Thanks

David L. Lawson
Technical Support = Manager
Partner Alliance=20 Director
Site One Networks, Inc.
302-337-8800 = Phone
800-354-5434 Toll=20 Free
302-337-3915 Fax

------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C065AA.6B5126A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 14 8:54:33 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 08:54:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kira.epconline.net (kira.epconline.net [209.83.132.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32B37B402 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from therock (betterguard.epconline.net [209.83.132.193]) by kira.epconline.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id eBEGsTe22824 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:54:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from carock@epconline.net) From: "Chuck Rock" To: Subject: RE: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:55:48 -0600 Message-ID: <004701c065ee$b53539c0$1805010a@epconline.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org These messages pop up in my logs from my SNMP machine monitoring the status of my mail server. Someone at some.domain [a.b.c.d] may be using SNMP to monitor your mailserver for up and down status. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Aaron Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:23 PM > To: mdickerson@officeonweb.net > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain > [a.b.c.d] > > > Most likely Outlook is using a ms "feature" that is causing this. I have > seen this problem when clients were set to to secure connections but the > server wasn't. > > Aaron > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote: > > > I apologize that this is more of a sendmail question but I > thought someone > > here might know this one. > > > > We have a client that is unable to send out mail. > > He is connecting to the server (though not able to send mail) but I find > > this error in the logfile: > > > > Dec 13 08:53:51 ns1 sendmail[29411]: NOQUEUE: Null connection from > > some.domain [a.b.c.d] > > > > This is a solo entry (no other related lines in the logfile). > > > > Eratta: > > He uses Outlook. > > He uses Qwest DSL (static ip: a.b.c.d). > > We use a pop before smtp auth which works fine for our other clients. > > > > The sendmail site suggests: > > "If it happens very often, it's either someone playing around or it's a > > network problem." > > Unfortunately, this is only mildy illuminating :/. > > > > Does anyone know what is causing this or how to resolve this issue? > > > > TIA, > > > > Mike Dickerson > > OfficeOnWeb.net > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 14 13:28:27 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 13:28:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.accessus.net (postal.accessus.net [209.145.150.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC8137B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rhea (cib-dhcp-102.accessus.net [207.206.171.102]) by mail1.accessus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 278AD7267F; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:28:17 -0600 (CST) From: "Jason Young" To: "Chuck Rock" , Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 15:36:31 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <004701c065ee$b53539c0$1805010a@epconline.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A "null connection" is when sendmail gets a connection to its TCP port, and sends its banner, and the remote client either A) closes the connection without doing anything or B) issues only the QUIT command, which closes the sendmail connection immediately. Try telnetting to your mailserver port 25, and then closing the telnet without doing anything. You'll see it. Chuck's SNMP monitoring system is probably checking to see that the SMTP service is up and running by connecting to its TCP port. Jason Young Access US Chief Network Engineer > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chuck Rock > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:56 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain > [a.b.c.d] > > > These messages pop up in my logs from my SNMP machine monitoring > the status > of my mail server. > > Someone at some.domain [a.b.c.d] may be using SNMP to monitor your > mailserver for up and down status. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Aaron Jackson > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 4:23 PM > > To: mdickerson@officeonweb.net > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain > > [a.b.c.d] > > > > > > Most likely Outlook is using a ms "feature" that is causing > this. I have > > seen this problem when clients were set to to secure connections but the > > server wasn't. > > > > Aaron > > > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 mdickerson@officeonweb.net wrote: > > > > > I apologize that this is more of a sendmail question but I > > thought someone > > > here might know this one. > > > > > > We have a client that is unable to send out mail. > > > He is connecting to the server (though not able to send mail) > but I find > > > this error in the logfile: > > > > > > Dec 13 08:53:51 ns1 sendmail[29411]: NOQUEUE: Null connection from > > > some.domain [a.b.c.d] > > > > > > This is a solo entry (no other related lines in the logfile). > > > > > > Eratta: > > > He uses Outlook. > > > He uses Qwest DSL (static ip: a.b.c.d). > > > We use a pop before smtp auth which works fine for our other clients. > > > > > > The sendmail site suggests: > > > "If it happens very often, it's either someone playing around > or it's a > > > network problem." > > > Unfortunately, this is only mildy illuminating :/. > > > > > > Does anyone know what is causing this or how to resolve this issue? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Mike Dickerson > > > OfficeOnWeb.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 14 14:12: 6 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 14 14:12:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns0.sitesnow.com (ns0.sitesnow.com [63.166.182.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6D237B400 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 14:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gskouby by ns0.sitesnow.com with local (Exim 3.13 #1) id 146gbT-000LaW-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:11:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:11:55 -0500 From: Greg Skouby To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw/routing/subnet problems Message-ID: <20001214171155.A81544@sitesnow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: Greg Skouby Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, This is currently what my network looks like: -- Sprint T1 ---> cisco_2501 ---> BSD Router/Firewall --> catalyst #1 | | | | | (catalyst # 2) Setup: The BSD box has 5 Intel Pro 100bs in it but as you can see from the above we are only using 3 of them We are using fxp1, fxp2, and fxp4 right now but plan to transition into using all of them (be patient :) The eth0 on the cicso 2501 is 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.128 The outside interface (fxp1) on the BSD router is 192.168.1.16 255.255.255.128 fxp2 is plugged into the cisco catalyst and has 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0 fxp4 is also plugged into the cisco catalyst and has 192.168.1.128 255.255.255.128 I know this is not the most optimum solution but it works for now. This is transitional so I don't expect it to be pretty. This setup is working fine. It is when I move to the second phase of this project that things go haywire. Second phase should look like this: --> Sprint T1 --> cisco_2501 --> BSD Router/Firewall --> 2 NICS into (catalyst # 1) | | | | | | catalyst # 2 With the network setup like this: The eth0 on the cicso 2501 is 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.128 The outside interface (fxp1) on the BSD router is 192.168.1.16 255.255.255.128 fxp2 is plugged into catalyst #2 and is 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.128 fxp3 is plugged into catalyst #1 and is 10.1.1.128 255.255.255.128 fxp4 is plugged into catalyst #1 and is 192.168.1.128 255.255.255.128 Workstations/Servers from 192.168.1.128/25 are plugged into that first catalyst and so are workstations/servers from 10.1.1.128/25 workstations/servers from 10.1.1.0/25 are plugged into that second catalyst However, when I move to this topology things are very flakey. Like I can ping to inside and outside the network but traceroutes time out on the first hop. Some people from the outside can reach the inside and some can't. Even some people in the 192.168.1.128/25 block lose connectivity and some retain connectivity. It is very strange. I am not filtering anything with the firewall yet. Just trying to get this set up. Any pitfalls to my diagrams or plan? Thanks for the input. This is alll hard to write in an email so please ask questions if my diagram is vague. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 15 6:24:18 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 15 06:24:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF8737B400 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 06:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #2) id 146vmK-00088d-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:24:08 +0100 Received: from a39f8.pppool.de ([213.6.57.248] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #2) id 146vmK-0003LP-00; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:24:08 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBFDNmT93345; Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:23:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200012151323.eBFDNmT93345@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:23:46 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: sendmail NOQUEUE: Null connection from some.domain [a.b.c.d] To: jyoung@accessus.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, mdickerson@officeonweb.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: netchild@leidinger.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14 Dec, Jason Young wrote: > > A "null connection" is when sendmail gets a connection to its TCP port, and > sends its banner, and the remote client either A) closes the connection > without doing anything or B) issues only the QUIT command, which closes the > sendmail connection immediately. There's als a C): If MS Exchange Ver ? tries to deliver mail to a 3-stable (sendmail) machine. It's reproduceable (here), the mail didn't gets delivered, sendmail reports a null connection. I'm not able to tell you more about the configuration of Exchange, it's not our system. Bye, Alexander. -- Speak softly and carry a cellular phone. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 16 10:25:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 10:25:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from evilcode.com (evilcode.com [63.228.228.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78E2A37B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 45100 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Dec 2000 18:25:31 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 10:25:31 -0800 From: James To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: newsgroup server recommendation Message-ID: <20001216102531.B44550@evilcode.com> Mail-Followup-To: James , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: daemus@evilcode.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm about to be setting up an NNTP server, and I need to decide what software to use for this. I was wondering if I could get some people's opinions/experiences with the various servers available in the ports collection. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 16 15:31:13 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 15:31:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DAB937B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id eBGNV3j83161 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:31:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eBGNHLw36211 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:17:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <034101c067b6$b2ef2620$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: Host not found, try again Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:17:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (At least) one of the domains we host, give the answer "host not found, try again", when asking for a non-existing host. Other domains we host just answer "host not found". Why the "try again"? named is: named 8.2.3-T5B Mon Oct 16 05:01:48 CEST 2000 Os is: FreeBSD ns 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 13 17:07:01 CEST 2000 root@ns:/usr/obj/usr/src/ sys/DK i386 The zonefile is: $TTL 28800 ; Authoritative data for foo.com ; $ORIGIN foo.com. @ IN SOA ns.my.net. hostmaster.my.net. ( 2000121401 ; Serial 86400 ; Refresh 24 hour 3600 ; Retry 1 hour 3600000 ; Ekspire 1000 hours 86400 ) ; Minimum 24 hours IN NS ns.my.net. IN NS ns2.my.net. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 16 15:47: 5 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 15:47:03 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E2B837B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 35517 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Dec 2000 23:46:59 +0000 (GMT) To: leif@neland.dk, leifn@neland.dk Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Host not found, try again From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:17:34 +0100" References: <034101c067b6$b2ef2620$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 00:46:59 +0100 Message-ID: <35515.977010419@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > (At least) one of the domains we host, give the answer "host not found, try > again", when asking for a non-existing host. > Other domains we host just answer "host not found". Why the "try again"? > > named is: named 8.2.3-T5B Mon Oct 16 05:01:48 CEST 2000 > Os is: FreeBSD ns 4.1.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE #0: Fri Oct 13 17:07:01 > CEST 2000 root@ns:/usr/obj/usr/src/ sys/DK i386 > > The zonefile is: > > $TTL 28800 > ; Authoritative data for foo.com > ; > $ORIGIN foo.com. > @ IN SOA ns.my.net. hostmaster.my.net. ( It's usually a good idea to give real data when you ask questions like this - so that we can check for ourselves. Clearly you have not, since the real SOA for foo.com contains: foo.com. IN SOA ns.okdirect.com. namemaster.okdirect.com. ( Anyway, the "try again" usually means the name server in question is not authoritative for the domain, even though the delegation (from the level above) says it should be. Thus you have a classic "lame delegation". Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 16 17: 5: 0 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 17:04:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807C737B400 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1890 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:03:50 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:03:49 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: James Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newsgroup server recommendation In-Reply-To: <20001216102531.B44550@evilcode.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, James wrote: > I'm about to be setting up an NNTP server, and I need to > decide what software to use for this. I was wondering > if I could get some people's opinions/experiences with > the various servers available in the ports collection. You need to consider which groups you'll have and how long you'll retain them. Then consider how large your input and output feeds are, pick a news transport package, and size the machine for it. If you want binaries, consider buying a news service. If you want lots of groups, consider using one of the satellite feeds or many peers. I've usually used inn and there's a port and package. There may be better things for huge feeds or light weight, but inn is well known and has plenty of features. Last time we needed to build a largish (for then) server, we used a PPro 200, a pair of what has become the TekRam DC-390F UWSCSI adapters, six or so 4.5-9GB Viking II drives, and CCD to combine disks to span disks for the news filesystems. We also used async fileio for news filesystems and a very stable FreeBSD kernel. Worked well saturating most of a pair of T1s. 8{( News servers can get huge as the usenet feeds are huge nowaways. It's a long way from when I carried an almost full feed via a shared 2400b modem on a Tandy 6000 running BNews. Hope this helps - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 16 17:48:58 2000 From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 16 17:48:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CBA837B404 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:48:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id eBH1mpL79632; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:48:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eBH0hYw36414; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:43:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <036501c067c2$bc831f00$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Cc: References: <034101c067b6$b2ef2620$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> <35515.977010419@verdi.nethelp.no> Subject: Re: Host not found, try again Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:45:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > (At least) one of the domains we host, give the answer "host not found, try > > again", when asking for a non-existing host. > > Other domains we host just answer "host not found". Why the "try again"? > > > > > > The zonefile is: > > > > $TTL 28800 > > ; Authoritative data for foo.com > > ; > > $ORIGIN foo.com. > > @ IN SOA ns.my.net. hostmaster.my.net. ( > > Anyway, the "try again" usually means the name server in question is not > authoritative for the domain, even though the delegation (from the level > above) says it should be. Thus you have a classic "lame delegation". The master nameserver was indeed not thinking it was authoritative for the domain; this I saw in the slave nameservers log. But it still served the right data; it had the right serial number. I have started adding $TTL 28800 as the very first line in the zone file, to be ready for bind 9, which requires this (for some strange reason) I removed this, believing I might have made a syntax error, and the server now claimed to be authoritative. I added it in again, and the server is still authoritive. Strange... 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