From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 17 9:46:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EC737B422 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 09:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.10.0/jtpda-5.3.3) with ESMTP id e8HGkr997333 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:46:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr ([134.157.10.102]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id SAA01298 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:46:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from michel@localhost) by rose.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00869 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:04:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from michel) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 23:04:50 +0200 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pcmcia, sound questions on thinkpad Message-ID: <20000916230450.A802@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <8525695B.005723EB.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> <200009151739.LAA06959@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <200009151739.LAA06959@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 11:39:15AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <8525695B.005723EB.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com writes: > : oh - and one final question - the GENERIC kernel has -O set in it's compiler > : flags, am wondering why? (am used to -O2 in linux) will i break anything if i > : change this? > > Yes. -O2 produces bad code (even on Linux) so it shouldn't be used. > > Warner > Moreover, i have just tested the various levels of optimization of gcc on a test program that some friend has given me. It is a Monte Carlo program in statistical maechanics, so computes a lot of random numbers, but all computations are integer and not floating point. In this sense it is not so different to an OS. Well i have been much surprised by the result! The best time i have gotten is with -O, the worst with -Os, and -O3 is in between. The -march=pentiumpro makes very small difference. Of course without any optimization the execution time doubles. Considering this the recommended (by freebsd doc.) setting of -O -pipe will speed up the compilation and perhaps produce the fastest code. Note that i have run the same program through the Portland compiler and it runs much faster. One more example of the inefficiency of the Gnu compiler even on x86 architecture. -- Michel Talon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 17 18:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10D137B423; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 18:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA88368; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:53:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id TAA27327; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009180153.TAA27327@harmony.village.org> To: Robert Watson Subject: Re: if_awi crash on IBM 560E, today's -CURRENT Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:25:39 EDT." References: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 19:53:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Robert Watson writes: : The hang results in num lock/etc not being toggleable, and ctrl-alt-escape : doesn't even prompt "No debugger in kernel", much less a ddb prompt :-). : : I'm not sure how to debug this further, or if this is the expected : behavior. : : (I'm also not sure if we support ad hoc mode on the if_awi driver, but at : least not having the machine crash would be a good start) I'm not sure what's going on here. You'll need to compile the kernel with ddb to find out. Onoe-san is the current awi driver maintainer. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 2:26: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from onoe2.sm.sony.co.jp (onoe2.sm.sony.co.jp [133.138.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E2B37B42C; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from duplo.sm.sony.co.jp (onoe@localhost) by onoe2.sm.sony.co.jp (8.9.0/3.7W) with ESMTP id SAA24020; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:25:55 +0900 (JST) Received: (from onoe@localhost) by duplo.sm.sony.co.jp (8.11.0/8.10.2) id e8J9PlE14252; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:25:47 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:25:47 +0900 (JST) From: Atsushi Onoe Message-Id: <200009190925.e8J9PlE14252@duplo.sm.sony.co.jp> To: rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: if_awi crash on IBM 560E, today's -CURRENT In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 16 Sep 2000 19:25:39 -0400 (EDT)" References: X-Mailer: Cue version 0.6 (000830-2124/onoe) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. I cannot reproduce the hangup problem on VAIO PCG-N505 running current as of yesterday. Perhaps there are some problems in io port or irq allocation. Could you please kill syslogd before insertion and look the console messages? Defining AWI_DEBUG for awi.c might be useful. By the way, the current version of awi driver partially supports adhoc mode. It can communicate with adhoc mode on windows version of BayStack driver. However, it fails to synchronize unless there are any IBSS creator, such as Windows, because the current awi driver doesn't creating IBSS code yet. Atsushi Onoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 15:19:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tempe.lackluster.net (tempe.lackluster.net [64.121.138.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AD137B423 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B90816AA0; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76A5151EC for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT) From: To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: REM56G-100?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've scoured the mailing list archives for how to get this card to work, people seem to have it working but I can't seem to find how they did it? can anyone help me out here? no matter what changes I make to my pccard.conf I get the same errors: Card "Xircom"("CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + MOdem 56") [CEM56] [1.00] matched "Xircom" ("CreditCard Ethernet") [(null)] [(null)] Config id 35 not present in this card also, has anyone used the Ambicom AMB8110? it uses the Axis 88190 chipset, apparently.. thanks, Scott -- scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of | repetitious semantics hanging over http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has | more than one side." -- bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 15:31:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from good.gulp.org (mail.gulp.org [204.245.54.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8945D37B423 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scarter@localhost) by good.gulp.org (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e8JMV1t56681; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:31:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scarter@gblx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: good.gulp.org: scarter set sender to scarter@gblx.net using -f Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:31:01 -0700 From: Steve Carter To: scott@lackluster.net Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? Message-ID: <20000919153101.I54991@gblx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from scott@lackluster.net on Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:18:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AFAIK, the combo cards are not supported ... -Steve * scott@lackluster.net [000919 15:20]: > I've scoured the mailing list archives for how to get this card to work, > people seem to have it working but I can't seem to find how they did it? > > can anyone help me out here? no matter what changes I make to my > pccard.conf I get the same errors: > > Card "Xircom"("CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + MOdem 56") [CEM56] [1.00] > matched "Xircom" ("CreditCard Ethernet") [(null)] [(null)] > Config id 35 not present in this card > > > also, has anyone used the Ambicom AMB8110? it uses the Axis 88190 > chipset, apparently.. > > thanks, > Scott > > -- > scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of > | repetitious semantics hanging over > http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has > | more than one side." -- bh > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 15:33:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F0637B424 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97455; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA42773; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009192233.QAA42773@harmony.village.org> To: Steve Carter Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? Cc: scott@lackluster.net, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:31:01 PDT." <20000919153101.I54991@gblx.net> References: <20000919153101.I54991@gblx.net> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:33:09 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20000919153101.I54991@gblx.net> Steve Carter writes: : AFAIK, the combo cards are not supported ... Combo cards generally aren't supported. They generally work for one of their functions. The xe driver is a bit of an exception because it tries to support both sides of the house. I don't have any of these cards. They are still expensive on ebay :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 15:41:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tempe.lackluster.net (tempe.lackluster.net [64.121.138.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F7F37B42C for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 958A016AA0; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C3C151EC; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? In-Reply-To: <200009192233.QAA42773@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > Combo cards generally aren't supported. They generally work for one > of their functions. The xe driver is a bit of an exception because it > tries to support both sides of the house. > so are you saying it is possible to use the RJ45 port? I thought what I had was what some refer to as the "dingo" card? e.g. > I don't have any of these cards. They are still expensive on ebay :-) > hmm, I just looked and I see a bunch for under $100..some don't specify the model but they look exactly like mine. Scot -- scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of | repetitious semantics hanging over http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has | more than one side." -- bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 19 16: 4:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64DC37B42C for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA97527; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:04:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA42873; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:04:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009192304.RAA42873@harmony.village.org> To: scott@lackluster.net Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:40:01 PDT." References: Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:04:16 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message scott@lackluster.net writes: : > Combo cards generally aren't supported. They generally work for one : > of their functions. The xe driver is a bit of an exception because it : > tries to support both sides of the house. : > : : so are you saying it is possible to use the RJ45 port? I think that it depends on the card that's being used. I don't know the xe driver well enough to know if its attempts to enable both sides of the house is successful or not. : hmm, I just looked and I see a bunch for under $100..some don't specify : the model but they look exactly like mine. You have the REM56G-100? There's lots of different models. To me "cheap" is under $30.00 :-). I have only a little bit of money that I can spend on acquiring these cards so have been trying like heck to get all cards < $30. I've found a few 3com ones cheap because they don't have all the dongles. They were for models that I knew my other dongles would work for... Of course I've just finished getting the 3com/megahertz cards. I have some NE2000 ones, but have started looking for more. I'll also be looking for fujitsu cards and xircom cards next. It takes a while to discover what cards are key to getting good coverage. It also takes time to find a good deal. There's a lot of overpriced folks selling pulls for more than the other auctions are getting. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 10:11:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074F437B43E; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id NAA26991; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 85256960.005E7A33 ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:11:56 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <85256960.005E1D69.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:06:24 -0700 Subject: 3c574 nic questoins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i think i've finally located a supported pcmcia nic, but now i need help configuring it... i think i should use ep0 for this one, and i've copied the settings out of the book and recompiled the kernel, and used visual config to make sure the irq's aren't conflicting, but it still doesn't seem to be working... is this because the pcmcia initilization takes place _after_ the network start ep0 command? i notice that my linux install does this in the opposit order (infact, card services does the network start itself after initializing the cards) if this doesn't work, i can also get a xircom ce3b-100btx or a zircom ps-ce2-10, if someone can help me figure out which driver to use thanks ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 11:44:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A38137B422; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01235; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:44:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA48251; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:44:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009201844.MAA48251@harmony.village.org> To: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Subject: Re: 3c574 nic questoins Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:06:24 PDT." <85256960.005E1D69.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> References: <85256960.005E1D69.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:44:07 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <85256960.005E1D69.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com writes: : i think i've finally located a supported pcmcia nic, but now i need help : configuring it... The 574 is supported. I don't have one personally, but Matt Dodd does. : i think i should use ep0 for this one, and i've copied the settings out of the : book and recompiled the kernel, and used visual config to make sure the irq's : aren't conflicting, but it still doesn't seem to be working... Yes. : is this because the pcmcia initilization takes place _after_ the network start : ep0 command? i notice that my linux install does this in the opposit order : (infact, card services does the network start itself after initializing the : cards) That's because FreeBSD does things from userland, with huge delays right now. You need to setup things properly for it to work. Since you've not included details about how you set them up now, I can't tell you what's wrong. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 11:49:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net [129.250.36.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DBF37B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.250.38.64] (helo=dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13bovp-0000zv-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:49:21 +0000 Received: from [161.58.1.76] (helo=shell1) by dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13bovo-0000wY-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:49:20 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Amergin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Linksys PCM100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear supported under the installation. I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. Thanks, -A To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 11:54: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5868837B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e8KIrwG10414; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:53:58 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Amergin Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 Message-ID: <20000920115358.B9141@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from amergin@wwa.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 02:49:18PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Amergin [000920 11:49] wrote: > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > supported under the installation. > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. Yes, providing more information may actually be dangerous and make it more difficult for us to diagnose the problem. *smack* So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card isn't supported? Furthermore, what version of FreeBSD are you installing? I'm guessing this is a laptop, is this a 'cardbus' card (pcmcia PCI?) if so you're probably out of luck for a couple more weeks/months on that. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12: 3: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from yaychat.com (wannabe.linuxzealot.com [209.191.74.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5DB37B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (yay@localhost) by yaychat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01498; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yay@yaychat.com) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:02:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David To: Amergin Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org have you looked how the kernel is identifying the card? have you looked how the card is stored in the pccard.conf? On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Amergin wrote: > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > supported under the installation. > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. > > Thanks, > -A > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12: 6:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net [129.250.36.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43FD537B424 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.250.38.61] (helo=dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout3.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13bpCd-0003DP-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:06:43 +0000 Received: from [161.58.1.76] (helo=shell1) by dfw-mmp1.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13bpCd-00056Z-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:06:43 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Amergin To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-Reply-To: <20000920115358.B9141@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Amergin [000920 11:49] wrote: > > > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > > supported under the installation. > > > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. > > Yes, providing more information may actually be dangerous and make it > more difficult for us to diagnose the problem. > > *smack* Deserved. 4.1 current. Dell Latitude CPt, though I will try later with a Thinkpad 755x. This is *not* a Cardbus card. I have those and realize the current problems. > So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card > isn't supported? Furthermore, what version of FreeBSD are you > installing? I'm guessing this is a laptop, is this a 'cardbus' > card (pcmcia PCI?) if so you're probably out of luck for a couple > more weeks/months on that. IS that enough info? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12: 9:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net [129.250.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF16237B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.250.38.63] (helo=dfw-mmp3.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13bpFc-0003GU-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:09:48 +0000 Received: from [161.58.1.76] (helo=shell1) by dfw-mmp3.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13bpFb-0006Nc-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:09:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:09:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Amergin To: David Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, David wrote: > have you looked how the kernel is identifying the card? No. How can I tell from the installation floppies? I did try to gather more information from the holographic shell, however, I am not versed enough to know how/where to look with the limited command set. > have you looked how the card is stored in the pccard.conf? see above. > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Amergin wrote: > > > > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > > supported under the installation. > > > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. > > > > Thanks, > > -A > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12:13: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ssabsd.csw.net (ssabsd.csw.net [209.136.201.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3315237B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ssabsd.csw.net (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 1A8D55C; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:16:20 -0500 (CDT) To: amergin@wwa.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: lambert@cswnet.com Message-Id: <20000920191620.1A8D55C@ssabsd.csw.net> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:16:20 -0500 (CDT) From: lambert@ssabsd.csw.net (Scott Lambert) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In muc.lists.freebsd.mobile, you wrote: > >I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it >appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear >supported under the installation. > >I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone >has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just >ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. I recently purchased a similar, if not the same, card at Best Buy. The problem is that pccard.conf does not have an entry for this rev of the card. I duplicated the existing entry in pccard.conf and changed it to something like: #Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 2) card "Linksys" "EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 2) config 0x3 "ed" ? # config auto "ed" ? insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete I don't have the laptop here so I'm not absolutely certain of the "PCMPC100 2" string. pccardd should tell you exactly what the string needs to be. Scott Lambert lambert@cswnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12:34:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D23937B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e8KJYj311943; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:34:45 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Amergin Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 Message-ID: <20000920123445.D9141@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <20000920115358.B9141@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from amergin@wwa.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 03:06:41PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Amergin [000920 12:06] wrote: > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > * Amergin [000920 11:49] wrote: > > > > > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > > > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > > > supported under the installation. > > > > > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > > > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > > > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. > > > > Yes, providing more information may actually be dangerous and make it > > more difficult for us to diagnose the problem. > > > > *smack* > > Deserved. > > 4.1 current. Dell Latitude CPt, though I will try later with a Thinkpad > 755x. This is *not* a Cardbus card. I have those and realize the current > problems. > > > So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card > > isn't supported? Furthermore, what version of FreeBSD are you > > installing? I'm guessing this is a laptop, is this a 'cardbus' > > card (pcmcia PCI?) if so you're probably out of luck for a couple > > more weeks/months on that. > > IS that enough info? You really need to answer my first question: "So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card isn't supported?" Did you just not see it probe? Does it not offer itself as a choice for install media? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12:40:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net [129.250.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0C137B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.250.38.62] (helo=dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13bpjK-0006Nu-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:40:30 +0000 Received: from [161.58.1.76] (helo=shell1) by dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13bpjK-0005a4-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:40:30 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:40:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Amergin To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-Reply-To: <20000920123445.D9141@fw.wintelcom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Amergin [000920 12:06] wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > * Amergin [000920 11:49] wrote: > > > > > > > > I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it > > > > appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear > > > > supported under the installation. > > > > > > > > I am trying to do a ftp install and this causes a small problem. If anyone > > > > has any advice I would very much appreciate it. For more information, just > > > > ask. Not sure if anything else would be relevant here. > > > > > > Yes, providing more information may actually be dangerous and make it > > > more difficult for us to diagnose the problem. > > > > > > *smack* > > > > Deserved. > > > > 4.1 current. Dell Latitude CPt, though I will try later with a Thinkpad > > 755x. This is *not* a Cardbus card. I have those and realize the current > > problems. > > > > > So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card > > > isn't supported? Furthermore, what version of FreeBSD are you > > > installing? I'm guessing this is a laptop, is this a 'cardbus' > > > card (pcmcia PCI?) if so you're probably out of luck for a couple > > > more weeks/months on that. > > > > IS that enough info? > > You really need to answer my first question: > > "So what part of the install lead you to the belief that the card > isn't supported?" > > Did you just not see it probe? Does it not offer itself as a choice > for install media? I do not have it as a choice of installation media. Only {PLIP, SLIP & PPP} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12:41:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96F937B42C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsf-laptop.live.com (sdsl-208-185-235-154.dsl.sjc.megapath.net [208.185.235.154]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA13766 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> X-Sender: rsf@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:38:07 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ross Finlayson Subject: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode (port type 3: the default). In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). One hint is that when I run wicontrol -i wi0 (to see the interface's settings), I get wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? Ross. ps. I had previously gotten a WaveLAN card to work with FreeBSD, but only using a WaveLAN<->Ethernet adaptor box, which - to FreeBSD - looks just like a regular (non-wi) Ethernet interface. This is my first time trying to get "wi" to work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 12:46:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB6D37B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8KJkYI29690; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:46:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:46:34 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Ross Finlayson Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Message-ID: <20000920124634.E21421@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost>; from finlayson@live.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:38:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:38:07PM -0700, Ross Finlayson wrote: > Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a > ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): > > On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is > started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is > configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows > correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode > (port type 3: the default). > > In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any > traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop > with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). > > One hint is that when I run > wicontrol -i wi0 > (to see the interface's settings), I get > wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' > So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? Is it possiable that your userland and kernel are out of sync? What does "ifconfig -a" say? What is the output from pccardd? I've got a standard PC Card WaveLAN card working fine here. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 13: 8:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093137B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsf-laptop.live.com (sdsl-208-185-235-154.dsl.sjc.megapath.net [208.185.235.154]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id NAA12213; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.1.20000920125345.00b75100@localhost> X-Sender: rsf@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:02:36 -0700 To: Brooks Davis From: Ross Finlayson Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20000920124634.E21421@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:46 PM 9/20/00, Brooks Davis wrote: >Is it possible that your userland and kernel are out of sync? Well actually, yes, that is a possibility. The kernel (& modules) were built on another system, and copied over. (I *think* both systems are in sync, but I'll try rebuilding the whole world on the target machine, and see if that makes a difference.) >What does >"ifconfig -a" say? kaipara# ifconfig -a lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 208.184.148.166 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 208.184.148.167 inet6 fe80::2d0:c9ff:fe13:5773%ed0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:d0:c9:13:57:73 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 wi0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 208.184.148.169 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 208.184.148.175 inet6 fe80::82fa:beff:fec0:8000%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0xb ether 80:fa:be:c0:80:00 >What is the output from pccardd? Here are the relevant log entries from startup: Sep 20 10:06:47 kaipara pccardd[47]: Card "Lucent Technologies"("WaveLAN/IEEE") [Version 01.01] [] matched "Lucent Technologies" ("WaveLAN/IEEE") [(null)] [(null)] Sep 20 10:06:53 kaipara /kernel: wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 12 slot 0 on pccard0 Sep 20 10:06:53 kaipara /kernel: wi0: Ethernet address: 80:fa:be:c0:80:00 Sep 20 10:06:53 kaipara pccardd[47]: wi0: Lucent Technologies (WaveLAN/IEEE) inserted. Sep 20 10:06:54 kaipara pccardd[47]: pccardd started Ross. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 13:12: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from good.gulp.org (mail.gulp.org [204.245.54.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5159F37B424 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scarter@localhost) by good.gulp.org (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e8KKBw863689; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:11:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scarter@gblx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: good.gulp.org: scarter set sender to scarter@gblx.net using -f Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:11:58 -0700 From: Steve Carter To: Ross Finlayson Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Message-ID: <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost>; from finlayson@live.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 12:38:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For mine I have to add the following options to get it to work with the AP in default settings: /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -n "" /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -s atom /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 -s is not really required, atom is my stationID for my laptop so change that to whatever you like. I have also seen those messages but it doesn't seem to stop it from working ... providing the above settings are configured. -Steve * Ross Finlayson [000920 12:41]: > Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a > ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): > > On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is > started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is > configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows > correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode > (port type 3: the default). > > In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any > traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop > with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). > > One hint is that when I run > wicontrol -i wi0 > (to see the interface's settings), I get > wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' > So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? > > Ross. > > ps. I had previously gotten a WaveLAN card to work with FreeBSD, but only > using a WaveLAN<->Ethernet adaptor box, which - to FreeBSD - looks just > like a regular (non-wi) Ethernet interface. This is my first time trying > to get "wi" to work. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 13:16:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3670737B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id QAA28117 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:16:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 85256960.006F69A4 ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:16:55 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <85256960.006EC8E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:08:08 -0700 Subject: 3c574 nic followup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=0E5ttXWapTGRb1MunU4iWV1ZzH0ZnZWQVm0P9Lsw5bbdq8eKFeTyYUrN" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0__=0E5ttXWapTGRb1MunU4iWV1ZzH0ZnZWQVm0P9Lsw5bbdq8eKFeTyYUrN Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ok, i figured out how to mount my linux partition so i could send these from an os with the network up... i've added pc_card_ifconfig="DHCP" to /etc/rc.conf (pccard_enable="YES" was already there) the funny thing is that as soon as the pcmcia drivers startup it says something like "pcmcia: ep1 no irq?" apparently trying to initialize the card on ep1? 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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:37:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have a REM56G-100 and it works fine. You need to use two pccardd.conf entries, one for each function. To swap function you have to pop the card out, kill pccardd, swap the .conf files and restart pccardd. Not great but it works. #----------------------------------------------------------------------- # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100+ Modem 56 (as modem) #----------------------------------------------------------------------- #card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet" config 0x27 "sio2" 10 insert logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card inserted as Modem remove logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card removed #----------------------------------------------------------------------- # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100+ Modem 56 (as Ethernet) #----------------------------------------------------------------------- card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet" config 0x27 "xe0" 10 insert logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card inserted as Ethernet insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card removed remove /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device ----- Original Message ----- From: Warner Losh To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:04 AM Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? > In message scott@lackluster.net writes: > : > Combo cards generally aren't supported. They generally work for one > : > of their functions. The xe driver is a bit of an exception because it > : > tries to support both sides of the house. > : > > : > : so are you saying it is possible to use the RJ45 port? > > I think that it depends on the card that's being used. I don't know > the xe driver well enough to know if its attempts to enable both sides > of the house is successful or not. > > : hmm, I just looked and I see a bunch for under $100..some don't specify > : the model but they look exactly like mine. > > You have the REM56G-100? There's lots of different models. To me > "cheap" is under $30.00 :-). I have only a little bit of money that I > can spend on acquiring these cards so have been trying like heck to > get all cards < $30. I've found a few 3com ones cheap because they > don't have all the dongles. They were for models that I knew my other > dongles would work for... > > Of course I've just finished getting the 3com/megahertz cards. I have > some NE2000 ones, but have started looking for more. I'll also be > looking for fujitsu cards and xircom cards next. It takes a while to > discover what cards are key to getting good coverage. It also takes > time to find a good deal. There's a lot of overpriced folks selling > pulls for more than the other auctions are getting. > > Warner > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 13:24:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ultra2.quiknet.com (ultra2.quiknet.com [207.183.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 945BC37B424 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14240 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2000 20:24:19 -0000 Received: from sysdev.quiknet.com (HELO sysdev2) (207.183.226.30) by ultra2.quiknet.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2000 20:24:19 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> X-Sender: bney@pop.quiknet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:34:38 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Bob Ney Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-Reply-To: <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org These settings will remove the card from Ad-Hoc mode however, The problems being experienced are consistant with those I have seen. My BSD machines talk to each other ok in mode 3, but will not talk to a windows laptop also running in mode 3. (Ad-Hoc),nor will they talk to the access point. The Windows machine is running newer drivers and I am wondering if there have been some protocol changes to the ad-hoc function in the windows and access point software. Everything works fine in mode 1, but that requires the access point as the communications hub. At 01:11 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: >For mine I have to add the following options to get it to work with the >AP in default settings: > >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -n "" >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -s atom >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 > >-s is not really required, atom is my stationID for my laptop so change >that to whatever you like. > >I have also seen those messages but it doesn't seem to stop it from >working ... providing the above settings are configured. > >-Steve > >* Ross Finlayson [000920 12:41]: >> Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a >> ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): >> >> On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is >> started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is >> configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows >> correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode >> (port type 3: the default). >> >> In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any >> traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop >> with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). >> >> One hint is that when I run >> wicontrol -i wi0 >> (to see the interface's settings), I get >> wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' >> So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? >> >> Ross. >> >> ps. I had previously gotten a WaveLAN card to work with FreeBSD, but only >> using a WaveLAN<->Ethernet adaptor box, which - to FreeBSD - looks just >> like a regular (non-wi) Ethernet interface. This is my first time trying >> to get "wi" to work. >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > Bob Ney Quiknet Inc. Director Operations (916) 782-9700 bney@quiknet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 16: 7: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mustang.nitrous.net (nitrous.net [63.78.15.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4765F37B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from denver@localhost) by mustang.nitrous.net (8.10.0/w00t-1.2) id e8KN6ZL20206; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:06:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:06:35 -0700 From: Denver Maddux To: Bob Ney Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Message-ID: <20000920160635.E10774@nitrous.net> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The drivers recently installed on a Windows laptop in my household (not mine... never...) default to BSS mode, not Ad-Hoc. I plugged my AP in and didn't do anything to it's config and was forced to use BSS mode on my FreeBSD laptops also. I honestly don't know the advantage of either, and I almost don't care... I just care that it works. :) -Denver Bob Ney wrote: > These settings will remove the card from Ad-Hoc mode however, The problems > being experienced are consistant with those I have seen. My BSD machines > talk to each other ok in mode 3, but will not talk to a windows laptop also > running in mode 3. (Ad-Hoc),nor will they talk to the access point. The > Windows machine is running newer drivers and I am wondering if there have > been some protocol changes to the ad-hoc function in the windows and access > point software. Everything works fine in mode 1, but that requires the > access point as the communications hub. > > At 01:11 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: > >For mine I have to add the following options to get it to work with the > >AP in default settings: > > > >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -n "" > >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -s atom > >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 > > > >-s is not really required, atom is my stationID for my laptop so change > >that to whatever you like. > > > >I have also seen those messages but it doesn't seem to stop it from > >working ... providing the above settings are configured. > > > >-Steve > > > >* Ross Finlayson [000920 12:41]: > >> Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a > >> ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): > >> > >> On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is > >> started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is > >> configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows > >> correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode > >> (port type 3: the default). > >> > >> In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any > >> traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop > >> with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). > >> > >> One hint is that when I run > >> wicontrol -i wi0 > >> (to see the interface's settings), I get > >> wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' > >> So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? > >> > >> Ross. > >> > >> ps. I had previously gotten a WaveLAN card to work with FreeBSD, but only > >> using a WaveLAN<->Ethernet adaptor box, which - to FreeBSD - looks just > >> like a regular (non-wi) Ethernet interface. This is my first time trying > >> to get "wi" to work. > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > Bob Ney > Quiknet Inc. > Director Operations > (916) 782-9700 > bney@quiknet.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 16:15:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ultra2.quiknet.com (ultra2.quiknet.com [207.183.249.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1154037B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13729 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2000 23:15:23 -0000 Received: from sysdev.quiknet.com (HELO sysdev2) (207.183.226.30) by ultra2.quiknet.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2000 23:15:23 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000920162544.01141570@pop.quiknet.com> X-Sender: bney@pop.quiknet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:25:44 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Bob Ney Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-Reply-To: <20000920160635.E10774@nitrous.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The advantage is that you dont have to go buy the access points. Assuming that the BSD box can be made to perform the coordinating function of the access point. Has anyone done that yet? At 04:06 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: >The drivers recently installed on a Windows laptop in my household (not >mine... never...) default to BSS mode, not Ad-Hoc. I plugged my AP in and >didn't do anything to it's config and was forced to use BSS mode on my >FreeBSD laptops also. > >I honestly don't know the advantage of either, and I almost don't care... >I just care that it works. :) > >-Denver > >Bob Ney wrote: >> These settings will remove the card from Ad-Hoc mode however, The problems >> being experienced are consistant with those I have seen. My BSD machines >> talk to each other ok in mode 3, but will not talk to a windows laptop also >> running in mode 3. (Ad-Hoc),nor will they talk to the access point. The >> Windows machine is running newer drivers and I am wondering if there have >> been some protocol changes to the ad-hoc function in the windows and access >> point software. Everything works fine in mode 1, but that requires the >> access point as the communications hub. >> >> At 01:11 PM 9/20/00 -0700, you wrote: >> >For mine I have to add the following options to get it to work with the >> >AP in default settings: >> > >> >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -n "" >> >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -s atom >> >/usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 >> > >> >-s is not really required, atom is my stationID for my laptop so change >> >that to whatever you like. >> > >> >I have also seen those messages but it doesn't seem to stop it from >> >working ... providing the above settings are configured. >> > >> >-Steve >> > >> >* Ross Finlayson [000920 12:41]: >> >> Has anyone else encountered this problem (with a WaveLAN/Orinico card in a >> >> ISA->PCMCIA adaptor): >> >> >> >> On boot, the "pcic" and "pccard" devices come up fine, and "pccardd" is >> >> started. The WaveLAN card is detected, and the "wi0" interface is >> >> configured (using my "pccard_ifconfig" setting). "netstat -r" shows >> >> correct routing table entries. I'm keeping the interface in "ad hoc" mode >> >> (port type 3: the default). >> >> >> >> In other words, everything looks fine, EXCEPT that I'm not seeing any >> >> traffic on the interface (e.g., when my other machine - a Windoze laptop >> >> with a WaveLAN card also in "ad hoc" mode - tries to do DHCP). >> >> >> >> One hint is that when I run >> >> wicontrol -i wi0 >> >> (to see the interface's settings), I get >> >> wicontrol: SIOCGWAVELAN: Invalid argument' >> >> So, it appears that something hasn't been configured properly. Any ideas? >> >> >> >> Ross. >> >> >> >> ps. I had previously gotten a WaveLAN card to work with FreeBSD, but only >> >> using a WaveLAN<->Ethernet adaptor box, which - to FreeBSD - looks just >> >> like a regular (non-wi) Ethernet interface. This is my first time trying >> >> to get "wi" to work. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message >> > >> Bob Ney >> Quiknet Inc. >> Director Operations >> (916) 782-9700 >> bney@quiknet.com >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > Bob Ney Quiknet Inc. Director Operations (916) 782-9700 bney@quiknet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 16:37:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CFA37B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 13btQQ-0005n2-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:37:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:37:14 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Message-ID: <20000920193714.A21934@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> <20000920160635.E10774@nitrous.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920162544.01141570@pop.quiknet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000920162544.01141570@pop.quiknet.com>; from bney@quiknet.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 04:25:44PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bob Ney probably said: > The advantage is that you dont have to go buy the access points. Assuming > that the BSD box can be made to perform the coordinating function of the > access point. Has anyone done that yet? FreeBSD cannot do the BSS base station mode - the code doesn't work. The advantages to BSS are you can use powersaving (doubles my laptop battery life) and I believe it is more efficient. I have a cheapo freebsd laptop doing ether <-> wireless routing in ad-hoc mode talking happily to a freebsd laptop and to my wife's windows laptop. When I get around to it, I'll be replacing this with a real base station. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 16:46:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AB837B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8KNkVT14616; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:46:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 16:46:31 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Ross Finlayson Cc: Brooks Davis , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Message-ID: <20000920164631.B13555@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <20000920124634.E21421@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <4.3.1.1.20000920125345.00b75100@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.1.20000920125345.00b75100@localhost>; from finlayson@live.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:02:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:02:36PM -0700, Ross Finlayson wrote: > At 12:46 PM 9/20/00, Brooks Davis wrote: > >Is it possible that your userland and kernel are out of sync? > > Well actually, yes, that is a possibility. The kernel (& modules) were > built on another system, and copied over. (I *think* both systems are in > sync, but I'll try rebuilding the whole world on the target machine, and > see if that makes a difference.) I'd definatly try that. Everything looks normal in that output you sent. My experience is primairly with access points, so I can't comment much. Make sure your SSID is the same on both hosts and that your crypto settings are the same (note that using FreeBSD you can easily put the card in modes that you can't get to under Windows.) -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 17:51:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDD437B422 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02781; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:51:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA51355; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009210051.SAA51355@harmony.village.org> To: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Subject: Re: 3c574 nic followup Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:08:08 PDT." <85256960.006EC8E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> References: <85256960.006EC8E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:51:31 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <85256960.006EC8E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com writes: : like "pcmcia: ep1 no irq?" Maybe something like: ep1: <3Com Etherlink III 3C589> at port 0x240-0x24f irq 11 slot 0 on pccard0 That's likely because there's a ep0 attached to the isa bus, or at least that's what the hints say. It is harmless. Just use $device in /etc/rc.conf and you'll be fine. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 17:53:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.veriohosting.com (gatekeeper.veriohosting.com [192.41.0.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF237B422; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:53:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown(192.168.1.7) by gatekeeper.veriohosting.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma027215; Wed, 20 Sep 00 18:52:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (aulmer@localhost) by orca.orem.veriohosting.com [Verio Web Hosting, Inc. 801.437.0200] (8.8.8) id SAA07158; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:52:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Adam Ulmer X-Sender: aulmer@orca.orem.veriohosting.com Reply-To: aulmer@veriohosting.com To: Jonas Bulow Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad T20 rejects FreeBSD Was: FreeBSD 4.1 on IBM Thinkpad T20 In-Reply-To: <39C7751E.50409F63@servicefactory.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried to install freebsd 4.1 on a Thinkpad A20m. I went through several permutations and ended up with a useless brick each time. (All while trying to attend USENIX! Very frustrating to work from a hotel room.) I too thought that I had to get a second hard but after 3 to 6 hours I was able to duplicate and repair (no data loss) the process. I had to have IBM cancel the fedex of a new drive. :P The machine has 12GB harddrive and partition magic 5.0 rescue disks were used to make equally sized partitions for the default win2k, redhat, and freebsd. Unfortunately, I could get freebsd installed but never to boot. I even stumbled into getting the freebsd bootmanager installed and it would boot the win2k partition. I could not repeat that, though. The win2k has data that needs to stay intact as my co-workers also use the thinkpad so the experimentation had to end. As soon as I get the laptop back I will try to get a bootmanager installed (LILO, perhaps). If anyone has any recommendations, I'm open to other ideas (but the laptop has to boot 3 different OS's). Also, everyone that I met at the USENIX conference that ran freebsd on a laptop ran -current and not 4.1. Sadly, I did not meet anyone else that had an A20 (or T20). So I guess I am reporting some partial success WRT freebsd 4.1 on the new thinkpads, but not a complete success. :( I'll be sure to report to freebsd-mobile when I have full success. Adam Ulmer On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Jonas Bulow wrote: > A follow-up on my own problem. > > The T20 does not allow a partition type of 165. If I change it to 131 > (ext2fs) the computer boots fine. Otherwise, as I explained earlier, the > computer hangs before it is even possible to enter the bios setup. > > Does anyone on this list use a IBM thinkpad T20 or A20 with FreeBSD? > > /j > > > Jonas Bulow wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I installed freebsd 4.1 on a IBM Thinkpad T20. What happens is that the > > computer won't boot at all, not even from floppy or CD-rom. It is not > > even possible to enter the bios setup. > > > > If I remove the hardrive, then it is possible to boot from floppy/cd-rom > > and it is possible to get into the bios setup. > > > > First I thougt the hardrive wa faulty but I inserted the drive into my > > IBM Thinkpad 600X and it booted fine. > > > > The only way to "solve" the problem was to remove the FreeBSD partition > > when the drive was inserted as the second drive in my TP 600X. > > > > What is this all about? Who paid IBM to refuse FreeBSD but allow Linux? > > :-) > > > > Does anyone have any tips of how to successfully install freebsd on a > > T20? > > > > regards, jonas > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 20 18: 1:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DC137B423 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id VAA00730; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:01:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 85256961.0005BB54 ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:02:36 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Cc: sean@stat.duke.edu Message-ID: <85256961.0005BA26.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:00:57 -0700 Subject: 3c574 trouble continues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=5EopLPHreoTQxaybnv2J2oqb4l1L7bFzCsPR7kFyUIEM9NxAIRsZv82A" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0__=5EopLPHreoTQxaybnv2J2oqb4l1L7bFzCsPR7kFyUIEM9NxAIRsZv82A Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline sean - i followed your initial advice, modified the kernel config file, and added the pccard flags entry, and got the same result ("ep0 no irq?" this time). i tried your kernel and got the attached output from /usr/sbin/config - it didn't like it much at all (which is strange, as many of the errors occur on blank lines :) am going to pack it in for the night and try again tomorrow with your next round of advice. ----- Forwarded by Ben Calvert/AMS/AMSINC on 09/20/00 05:56 PM ----- |--------+------------------------> | | ben | | | | | | | | | 09/20/00 05:47| | | PM | | | | |--------+------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Ben Calvert/AMS/AMSINC@AMSINC | | cc: | | Subject: | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------| (See attached file: cfg) --0__=5EopLPHreoTQxaybnv2J2oqb4l1L7bFzCsPR7kFyUIEM9NxAIRsZv82A Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="cfg" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="cfg" Content-transfer-encoding: x-uuencode begin 644 cfg M8V]N9FEG.B!L:6YE(#$Y.B!S>6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`R M,#H@"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN M92`R,SH@"!E M6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@ M;&EN92`U,CH@"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I M9SH@;&EN92`U-3H@"!E M6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`V,CH@ M"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`W M.3H@"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`X-#H@;F\@ M871K8F1C)W,@=&\@=VEL9&-A"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`Y,CH@;F\@:7-A)W,@ M=&\@=VEL9&-A"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`Q,#(Z('-Y;G1A>"!E"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@;&EN92`Q M,3@Z('-Y;G1A>"!E6YT87@@97)R;W(-"F-O;F9I9SH@ M;&EN92`Q,C@Z('-Y;G1A>"!E; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id OAA17237; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:33:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 85256961.0065FDBB ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:34:00 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <85256961.0065F986.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:32:18 -0700 Subject: Re: 3c574 trouble continues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org re: ^M's ah - i wondered about those. next time i'll gzip the files before sending. hopefully that'll keep my favorate program from chewing up the files. am about ready to launch into another round here, and am wondering if there're any ways to capture what goes to the console during boot? these messages seem to differ somewhat from the output of dmesg, and they might be usefull |--------+-----------------------> | | "Sean | | | O'Connell" | | | | | | | | | 09/20/00 | | | 06:05 PM | | | Please | | | respond to | | | "Sean | | | O'Connell" | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Ben Calvert/AMS/AMSINC@AMSINC | | cc: | | Subject: Re: 3c574 trouble continues | >----------------------------------------------------------------------------| Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com stated: : : : sean - i followed your initial advice, modified the kernel config file, and : added the pccard flags entry, and got the same result ("ep0 no irq?" this time). : i tried your kernel and got the attached output from /usr/sbin/config - it : didn't like it much at all (which is strange, as many of the errors occur on : blank lines :) : : am going to pack it in for the night and try again tomorrow with your next round : of advice. I think some of the problem maybe with ^M's ... the original file you sent had a slew of ^M pollution in it and maybe blotus notes is doing something evil or how the text files are being handled (I smell windows). There is a spiffy little port/package called dos2unix (or is it unix2dos) that will strip the ^M's out a text file. S To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 11:45:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DD437B43F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:45:52 -0700 Received: from 63.195.114.87 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:45:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.195.114.87] From: "Greg Smith" To: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ^M (was 3c574 trouble continues) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 18:45:52 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2000 18:45:52.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B0FF250:01C023FC] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried that port without luck on 4.1-Release. Absence of a man page didn't help. I tried the "tuc" port next and it worked fine. It goes both ways, too, in case you need to send something back to Windows. YMMV. Greg >There is a spiffy little port/package called dos2unix (or is it unix2dos) >that will strip the ^M's out a text file. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 11:46:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tempe.lackluster.net (tempe.lackluster.net [64.121.138.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196937B446 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C9A216AA0; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE250151EC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Duncan Barclay Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? In-Reply-To: <00b401c0233a$40a7fbc0$42f7a8c0@my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I gave that a shot and got a bit farther, I think... Now I'm getting device_probe_and_attach returned 12 I also have a netgear FA410TX that seems to be supported but even though I have ed0 in my kernel it still says device not configured when pccardd sees the card. i even tried changing my device line to "device ed" like the other PCMCIA devices in the kernel config file and got the same thing... there is only one config index in pccardc dumpcis, so I know I don't need to change that in pccard.conf... I see in the list archives someone else got the same thing but no one replied (on the list).. any ideas? Thanks, Scott On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Duncan Barclay wrote: > Hi > > I have a REM56G-100 and it works fine. You need to use two pccardd.conf > entries, one for each function. To swap function you have to pop the card > out, kill pccardd, swap the .conf files and restart pccardd. Not great but > it works. > > #----------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100+ Modem 56 (as modem) > #----------------------------------------------------------------------- > #card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet" > config 0x27 "sio2" 10 > insert logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card inserted as Modem > remove logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card removed > > #----------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100+ Modem 56 (as Ethernet) > #----------------------------------------------------------------------- > card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet" > config 0x27 "xe0" 10 > insert logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card inserted as Ethernet > insert /etc/pccard_ether $device > remove logger -s Xircom CEM56 Card removed > remove /etc/pccard_ether_remove $device > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Warner Losh > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? > > > > In message > > scott@lackluster.net writes: > > : > Combo cards generally aren't supported. They generally work for one > > : > of their functions. The xe driver is a bit of an exception because it > > : > tries to support both sides of the house. > > : > > > : > > : so are you saying it is possible to use the RJ45 port? > > > > I think that it depends on the card that's being used. I don't know > > the xe driver well enough to know if its attempts to enable both sides > > of the house is successful or not. > > > > : hmm, I just looked and I see a bunch for under $100..some don't specify > > : the model but they look exactly like mine. > > > > You have the REM56G-100? There's lots of different models. To me > > "cheap" is under $30.00 :-). I have only a little bit of money that I > > can spend on acquiring these cards so have been trying like heck to > > get all cards < $30. I've found a few 3com ones cheap because they > > don't have all the dongles. They were for models that I knew my other > > dongles would work for... > > > > Of course I've just finished getting the 3com/megahertz cards. I have > > some NE2000 ones, but have started looking for more. I'll also be > > looking for fujitsu cards and xircom cards next. It takes a while to > > discover what cards are key to getting good coverage. It also takes > > time to find a good deal. There's a lot of overpriced folks selling > > pulls for more than the other auctions are getting. > > > > Warner > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of | repetitious semantics hanging over http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has | more than one side." -- bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 12:26:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E6F37B423 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rsf-laptop.live.com (sdsl-208-185-235-154.dsl.sjc.megapath.net [208.185.235.154]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id MAA29652 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.1.20000921115348.00b59470@localhost> X-Sender: rsf@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:24:17 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ross Finlayson Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-Reply-To: <20000920193714.A21934@pir.net> References: <3.0.6.32.20000920162544.01141570@pop.quiknet.com> <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <4.3.1.1.20000920122431.00c45b90@localhost> <20000920131158.D61974@gblx.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920133438.0110c740@pop.quiknet.com> <20000920160635.E10774@nitrous.net> <3.0.6.32.20000920162544.01141570@pop.quiknet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:37 PM 9/20/00, Peter Radcliffe wrote: >FreeBSD cannot do the BSS base station mode - the code doesn't work. > >The advantages to BSS are you can use powersaving (doubles my laptop >battery life) and I believe it is more efficient. The reason BSS (aka. "infrastructure") mode doesn't work for a 802.11 interface attached a 'vanilla' FreeBSD (or Linux, etc.) router is that - in this mode - a client node needs to be "authenticated" and "associated" with an access point (AP) before it can send or receive data packets. This requires a couple of low-level packet exchanges that don't happen automatically - instead, they need to be implemented by the AP software. I plan shortly to try implementing an AP 'daemon' for FreeBSD that does this. At first, this would just do the basic (null) authentication and association, but later on it could - I hope - be extended to implement the packet buffering required to support "power saving" operation. Of course, this will be Open Source (probably GPL), and - I hope - will be portable to other Unixes as well. If anyone else has already taken this on, please let me know, so we can coordinate efforts. "Ad hoc" mode, on the other hand, doesn't require the authentication and association steps, which is why - in this mode - data delivery works with a vanilla router. So, why don't we all just use "ad hoc" mode? Well, one reason - that Peter noted - is that 802.11's power saving option works only with "infrastructure" mode. Another reason is that "ad hoc" mode is apparently not part of the official 802.11 standard. Instead, the standard supports something called "IBSS mode", which is supposedly similar to "ad hoc" mode, but not quite the same. (I don't know what the difference is, though; if anyone does, please let me know.) The newest versions of Lucent's drivers and/or firmware supports "IBSS" mode rather than "ad hoc" mode, and I've found that a client using this driver/firmware is *not* able to communicate with a FreeBSD 'base station' with a card set to "ad hoc" mode. Again, I'm not sure what the incompatibility is, but it suggests that we're going to have problems with future clients unless we bite the bullet and support "infrastructure" mode in our base stations. BTW, I was finally able to figure out why the "wi0" interface was not working properly in my FreeBSD box - it was an I/O port address problem. Apparently, for my PC box, the I/O port range (0x240-0x360) given in /etc/defaults/pccard.conf had some unknown conflict: The "wi0" device would get brought up OK, but it wasn't communcating properly with the kernel. Using a different I/O port range (0x200-0x23F) caused "wi0" to work properly on my box. The PC hardware architecture is such a fucking piece of crap! Just think about how many man-hours around the word have been lost due to chasing down IRQ and/or I/O port address conflicts. It's pathetic that - in the year 2000 - we still have to deal with garbage like this. Ross. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 14:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f209.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225F137B422 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:23:23 -0700 Received: from 63.195.114.87 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:23:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.195.114.87] From: "Greg Smith" To: finlayson@live.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:23:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Sep 2000 21:23:23.0908 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C632440:01C02412] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ross, I would argue that this is an OS problem. DOS, Win 3.1 and FreeBSD have problems here. Win95 is smart enough to deal with this gracefully under most circumstances. FreeBSD cannot give a nice report of resources already consumed. It's hard to tell if it even knows. FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources already in use. Win95 will report exactly what resources are in use, and is smart enough to disable devices which have conflicting resource requirements, unless it is OK. Dos and Win 3.1 seem more like FreeBSD in this regard. Furthermore, PC hardware has brought us the cheap boxes which allow us to run FreeBSD; and given us the flexibility to use all sorts of nifty devices, or the option of buying commodity hardware for next to nothing. I for one am very thankful to Intel, MS , and others I don't know for engineering all this stuff to work. Anyways, that's the way I see it. Greg >Apparently, for my PC box, the I/O port range (0x240-0x360) given >in /etc/defaults/pccard.conf had some unknown conflict: The "wi0" >device would get brought up OK, but it wasn't communcating properly >with the kernel. Using a different I/O port range (0x200-0x23F) >caused "wi0" to work properly on my box. > > >The PC hardware architecture is such a fucking piece of crap! Just think >about how many man-hours around the word have been lost due to chasing down >IRQ and/or I/O port address conflicts. It's pathetic >that - in the year 2000 - we still have to deal with garbage like >this. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 14:36:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D67F37B42C for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01923; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:37:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200009212137.OAA01923@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Greg Smith" Cc: finlayson@live.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:23:23 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:37:25 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > FreeBSD cannot give a nice report of resources already consumed. This is correct. > It's hard > to tell if it even knows. This is a consequence. > FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources > already in use. This is incorrect. > Win95 will report exactly what resources are in use, and is smart enough to > disable devices which have conflicting resource requirements, unless it is > OK. Sometimes. Windows is over-paranoid about this. Try eg. moving a PCI adapter from one slot to another. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 14:49:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1637B43E for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06971; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA62099; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009212149.PAA62099@harmony.village.org> To: "Greg Smith" Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Cc: finlayson@live.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:23:23 GMT." References: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:49:39 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message "Greg Smith" writes: : FreeBSD cannot give a nice report of resources already consumed. It's hard : to tell if it even knows. FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources : already in use. It knows. FreeBSD doesn't misassign resources already in use. It can't. Sometimes pccardd will try and things will fail, but that's pccardd's fault (which mihira-san has done something about). dmesg will mostly tell you what's in use. The information is in the kernel, but there's no easy way to extract all of it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 14:50:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A1A37B43E; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26876; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07960; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:23 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: "Greg Smith" , finlayson@live.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-Reply-To: <200009212137.OAA01923@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200009212137.OAA01923@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources > > already in use. > > This is incorrect. No, this is true. The mobile code sometimes screws up, and attempts to re-use an already active resource. And, it's not just the mobile code. Often because FreeBSD has no driver for a particular piece of hardware, it's unaware of the resources being used by a piece of hardware (a CardBus controller, or an unsupported sound card), so it assumes (wrongly) that the resources it is using are free, when in fact the hardware is still using the resources despite the fact there is no driver for them. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 14:52:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6C037B43F for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06987; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:52:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA62135; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009212152.PAA62135@harmony.village.org> To: scott@lackluster.net Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? Cc: Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:44:45 PDT." References: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:52:14 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message scott@lackluster.net writes: : I gave that a shot and got a bit farther, I think... Now I'm getting : device_probe_and_attach returned 12 12 is now ENOMEM. This means that you are telling pccardd to use a resource that was already in use. You'll likely need to list only those IRQs that you have free in /etc/pccard.conf. By default we have a list that's too long. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 15: 3: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E517E37B43F; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07038; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:02:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA62314; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:02:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009212202.QAA62314@harmony.village.org> To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working Cc: Mike Smith , "Greg Smith" , finlayson@live.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:23 MDT." <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> <200009212137.OAA01923@mass.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:02:56 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> Nate Williams writes: : No, this is true. The mobile code sometimes screws up, and attempts to : re-use an already active resource. And, it's not just the mobile code. : Often because FreeBSD has no driver for a particular piece of hardware, : it's unaware of the resources being used by a piece of hardware (a : CardBus controller, or an unsupported sound card), so it assumes : (wrongly) that the resources it is using are free, when in fact the : hardware is still using the resources despite the fact there is no : driver for them. This is much rarer than you make it sound since we've started doing the PNP BIOS scanning. There are still several cases where PNP data is insufficient. There are also some problems with the pci code where it doesn't consume IRQs for cards that don't have specific drivers. This is necessary because the pccard code can't share with them. So it may happen, but it usually is detected and prevented. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 15:11: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-63-202-177-115.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.177.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F45A37B42C for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.osd.bsdi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02085; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.osd.bsdi.com) Message-Id: <200009212211.PAA02085@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:50:23 MDT." <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:11:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources > > > already in use. > > > > This is incorrect. > > No, this is true. The mobile code sometimes screws up, and attempts to > re-use an already active resource. This doesn't constitute "mis-assigning" a resource, since when pccardd submits the resource assignment to the kernel, it will be rejected by the resource manager (and thus the resources are not mis-assigned). > And, it's not just the mobile code. > Often because FreeBSD has no driver for a particular piece of hardware, > it's unaware of the resources being used by a piece of hardware (a > CardBus controller, or an unsupported sound card), so it assumes > (wrongly) that the resources it is using are free, when in fact the > hardware is still using the resources despite the fact there is no > driver for them. This is also incorrect. FreeBSD doesn't "assign" resources for anything at this point in time, with the dubious exception of pccardd. We just use the resources that the firmware has set up. To take your cardbus controller example; these are PCI devices. Unless your firmware is faulty, they don't have resource conflicts. In the case of an unsupported sound card, it's either PCI (resources are unique and can't ever be conflicted with) or ISA-PnP (resources are owned by the 'unknown' driver and are thus known to the resource manager) or ISA (in which case the administrator is responsible for conflict resolution). -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 15:13:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2337B423; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27293; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:13:17 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08135; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:13:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009212213.QAA08135@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems getting WaveLAN device (wi0) working In-Reply-To: <200009212211.PAA02085@mass.osd.bsdi.com> References: <200009212150.PAA07960@nomad.yogotech.com> <200009212211.PAA02085@mass.osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > FreeBSD sometimes seems to mis-assign resources > > > > already in use. > > > > > > This is incorrect. > > > > No, this is true. The mobile code sometimes screws up, and attempts to > > re-use an already active resource. > > This doesn't constitute "mis-assigning" a resource, since when pccardd > submits the resource assignment to the kernel, it will be rejected by the > resource manager (and thus the resources are not mis-assigned). > > > And, it's not just the mobile code. > > Often because FreeBSD has no driver for a particular piece of hardware, > > it's unaware of the resources being used by a piece of hardware (a > > CardBus controller, or an unsupported sound card), so it assumes > > (wrongly) that the resources it is using are free, when in fact the > > hardware is still using the resources despite the fact there is no > > driver for them. > > This is also incorrect. > > FreeBSD doesn't "assign" resources for anything at this point in time, > with the dubious exception of pccardd. Umm, last I looked, this was the 'mobile' list, which implies the use of the pccardd, and it's corresponding kernel code. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 20:47:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tempe.lackluster.net (tempe.lackluster.net [64.121.138.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CD137B423 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40C2C16AA0; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F135151EC; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:46:02 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? In-Reply-To: <200009212152.PAA62135@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I'd tried looking in the kernel source for the function but couldn't find where it was defined...thanks! Scott On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: > 12 is now ENOMEM. This means that you are telling pccardd to use a > resource that was already in use. You'll likely need to list only > those IRQs that you have free in /etc/pccard.conf. By default we have > a list that's too long. > -- scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of | repetitious semantics hanging over http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has | more than one side." -- bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 21 22:23:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744B137B422 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08376; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:23:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA65095; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:23:18 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009220523.XAA65095@harmony.village.org> To: scott@lackluster.net Subject: Re: REM56G-100?? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:46:02 PDT." References: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:23:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message scott@lackluster.net writes: : Thanks, I'd tried looking in the kernel source for the function but : couldn't find where it was defined...thanks! Generally speaking, look at foo_probe or foo_attach. "Foo_" might be spelled "foo_pccard_" in some drivers. You may have to chace things down. However, most drivers I've had my fingers in return ENOMEM when it can't allocate a resource. It has helped me distinguish between the "I can't find hardware here" from the "I can't get the requested resources" cases. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 6:53:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gollum.axion.bt.co.uk (gollum.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.17.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F8937B423 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 06:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk by gollum (local) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:54:42 +0100 Received: by cbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) id ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:53:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: arnaud.gibier@bt.com To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Xserver Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:53:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2652.35) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm using on a Dell CPx laptop FreeBSD-4.1. I have encountered a lot of problems when trying to configure my Xserver. Has anyone managed to install a nice Xserver with a similar laptop and FreeBSD release? Thanks, Arnaud. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 7:11:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tempe.lackluster.net (tempe.lackluster.net [64.121.138.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B2537B42C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C61616AA0; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tempe.lackluster.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8CC151EC; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:10:32 -0700 (PDT) From: To: arnaud.gibier@bt.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xserver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org it would prolly help to describe your problems, what chipset does it have? did you check out http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ ?? Scott On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 arnaud.gibier@bt.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using on a Dell CPx laptop FreeBSD-4.1. I have encountered a lot of > problems when trying to configure my Xserver. > Has anyone managed to install a nice Xserver with a similar laptop and > FreeBSD release? > Thanks, > > Arnaud. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > -- scott@lackluster.net | "(Scott) is that penumbra of | repetitious semantics hanging over http://www.lackluster.net/~scott/ | every discussion that perceivably has | more than one side." -- bh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 8:39: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f331.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9440D37B423 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:38:59 -0700 Received: from 63.195.114.87 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:38:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.195.114.87] From: "Greg Smith" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ^M (was 3c574 trouble continues) (is mea culpa) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:38:59 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2000 15:38:59.0302 (UTC) FILETIME=[39BC4060:01C024AB] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Everyone, I installed the "unix2dos" package a second time, and voila! it worked. I don't know what I goofed up the first time. I think "tuc" has a little more power, but "unix2dos" works fine. Do read the man page to understand it's idiosyncratic behavior regarding input files: - standard input modified to standard output - filename on command line modified in place even with output redirection specified Sorry for the misinformation. Greg I promise to try twice next time. 8) >: I tried that port without luck on 4.1-Release. Absence of a man page >didn't >: help. >: >: I tried the "tuc" port next and it worked fine. It goes both ways, too, >in >: case you need to send something back to Windows. >: >: YMMV. >: >: Greg >: >: >There is a spiffy little port/package called dos2unix (or is it >unix2dos) >: >that will strip the ^M's out a text file. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 8:39:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f266.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7A137B423 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:39:16 -0700 Received: from 63.195.114.87 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:39:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.195.114.87] From: "Greg Smith" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ^M (was 3c574 trouble continues) (is mea culpa) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:39:16 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2000 15:39:16.0106 (UTC) FILETIME=[43C056A0:01C024AB] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Everyone, I installed the "unix2dos" package a second time, and voila! it worked. I don't know what I goofed up the first time. I think "tuc" has a little more power, but "unix2dos" works fine. Do read the man page to understand it's idiosyncratic behavior regarding input files: - standard input modified to standard output - filename on command line modified in place even with output redirection specified Sorry for the misinformation. Greg I promise to try twice next time. 8) >: I tried that port without luck on 4.1-Release. Absence of a man page >didn't >: help. >: >: I tried the "tuc" port next and it worked fine. It goes both ways, too, >in >: case you need to send something back to Windows. >: >: YMMV. >: >: Greg >: >: >There is a spiffy little port/package called dos2unix (or is it >unix2dos) >: >that will strip the ^M's out a text file. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 13:41: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gloworm.Stanford.EDU (gloworm.Stanford.EDU [171.64.99.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834ED37B43C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (yergeau@localhost) by gloworm.Stanford.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06633; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009222039.NAA06633@gloworm.Stanford.EDU> To: Amergin Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:09:45 -0400." Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:39:46 -0700 From: Dan Yergeau Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I recently purchased a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 (model pcm100) since it >appeared supported under FreeBSD. Unfortunately it doesn't appear >supported under the installation. PCM100 or PCMPC100 (aka EC2T)? Both appear to be supported, though the PCM100 is not listed in the release notes (it does appear in the default pccard.conf). If it is the PCMPC100, then it may be the V2 revision of the card (maybe there is even a V2 of the PCM100?). The 4.1-RELEASE pccard.conf doesn't have an entry for the card that identifies itself with the string shown below. Check the box carefully. IIRC, Linksys actually had the good sense to - print the V2 on the outside of the box, indicating some (minor) internal changes to the card - change the internal identifier string for the card to #Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 V2) card "Linksys" "EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 V2)" The PCMPC100 V2 card works (with 4.1; it didn't work with the ed driver under 4.0), but only after you add the new pccard.conf entry (clone of the PCMPC100 with the correct card identifier). I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure out how to modify the pccard.conf file with only the installation floppies. >> have you looked how the kernel is identifying the card? > >No. How can I tell from the installation floppies? I did try to gather >more information from the holographic shell, however, I am not versed >enough to know how/where to look with the limited command set. > >> have you looked how the card is stored in the pccard.conf? > >see above. With only the installation floppy, I don't think that there is enough diagnostics available to query the card information structure ("pccardc dumpcis"). And, although I haven't tried it, the installer will probably only report that no network device was found. Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 22 19:27:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742D137B423 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e8N2R5p00475; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com( 207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000473; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:27:00 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01843; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200009230226.TAA01843@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad T20 In-Reply-To: "from Adam Ulmer at Sep 20, 2000 06:52:58 pm" To: aulmer@veriohosting.com Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jonas.bulow@servicefactory.se, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adam Ulmer writes: > I tried to install freebsd 4.1 on a Thinkpad A20m. I went through several > permutations and ended up with a useless brick each time. (All while I'm thinking seriously about getting a T20 as well (because they're cheaper as an IBM employee). The obstacles you mention are worrisome but I think it's still worth it for me to get one and just try to hack whatever is necessary in order to get it to work (as much as I can). First I'd like to get clear on what the issues are.. - Boot blocks: you said that it wouldn't recognize the FreeBSD partition ID.. doesn't this problem go away if you install FreeBSD's boot0 (using boot0cfg)? - X11: XFree86 4.0.1 claims to support the "Savage IX" chip, but the T20 spec sheet says it has a "Savage IX8". Does it work? - Is sound supported? Chips: "CD4624 with CS4297A AC97 codec" > As soon as I get the laptop back I will try to get a bootmanager installed > (LILO, perhaps). If anyone has any recommendations, I'm open to other > ideas (but the laptop has to boot 3 different OS's). Did you try using boot0cfg? Thanks, -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 7:53:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net [129.250.36.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FA237B422 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 07:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.250.38.62] (helo=dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout2.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #7) id 13cqg6-0005yL-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:53:22 +0000 Received: from [161.58.1.85] (helo=shell3) by dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #4) id 13cqg5-0006xs-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:53:21 +0000 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:53:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Amergin To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, first thanks to those who have already offered their adice. On some sound advice I mounted mfsroot on another machine to look at the pccard.conf and now I am doubly confused. My card, the PCM100, is LISTED. #Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Integrated PC Card (PCM100) card "Linksys" "Etherfast 10/100 Integrated PC Card (PCM100)" config auto "ed" ? insert /etc/pccard_ether $device remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete Okay, then why isn't recognized? Here is what happens on install. The Linksys card does not have linklight on startup. After entering the Visual Kernel config I remove the conflicting network cards. However all that are listed are: IBM EtherJet, CS*9x)-based Ethernet adapters NE1000, NE2000, 3C503, WD/SMC80xx Ethernet adapters Fujitsu MD86960A/MD869685A Ethernet adapters AT&T Starlan 10 and EN100, 3c507, NI5210 Ethernet adapters DEC Etherworks 2 and 3 Ethernet adapters Isolan, Novell NE2100/NE32-VL Ethernet adapters SMC/Megahertz Ethernet adapters After saving the parameters and exiting, the probe finds the pc-card apparently cause I get linklight then. I am told that the PC-card slor is found and wants to know if it wants to be the installation media. I choose yes. and go through the basic configuration... after then going through basic choices, disk label etc, I choose FTP Passive as installation media. And my options now to use are only SLIP or PPP. What is up? AM I missing somehting obvious? I could just cheat and find some CD's but it is now a matter of pride. I must get this working. I bought this nic specifically this installtion since my cardbus nics are not supported. Again, this is 4.1 current. Thanks again for any leads... On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Scott Lambert wrote: {snip} > I recently purchased a similar, if not the same, card at Best Buy. > The problem is that pccard.conf does not have an entry for this rev of > the card. I duplicated the existing entry in pccard.conf and changed > it to something like: > > #Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 2) > card "Linksys" "EtherFast 10/100 PC Card (PCMPC100 2) > config 0x3 "ed" ? > # config auto "ed" ? > insert /etc/pccard_ether $device > remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete {snip} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 9: 4:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx1.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902FC37B422 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (sams [134.2.12.50]) by mx1.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D28439; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:04:15 +0200 (MST) Received: (from sperber@localhost) by informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06834; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:04:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sperber) To: Amergin Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 References: From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:04:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: Amergin's message of "Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:53:21 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.2 (Nike) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Amergin" == Amergin writes: Amergin> I am told that the PC-card slor is found and wants to know if it wants to Amergin> be the installation media. I choose yes. and go through the basic Amergin> configuration... Amergin> after then going through basic choices, disk label etc, I choose FTP Amergin> Passive as installation media. Press Alt-F2 after the PC-card enable menu. See if there's a message mentioning ed1. Amergin> And my options now to use are only SLIP or PPP. ... so probably not. This means in all probability there's an interrupt problem. Try all the interrupt options in the relevant sysinstall menu in sequence, and see if that helps. If it doesn't, try turning on visual device config on boot and moving pcic0 to a different potentially unused interrupt such as 5, 9, or 10. Amergin> What is up? AM I missing somehting obvious? I could just cheat and find Amergin> some CD's but it is now a matter of pride. Well, it might be your only option, as things are considerably easier once you have a working system: you can find out a definitely unused IRQ, and you can turn off the fixed ISA association of the ed driver. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 11: 5: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wilson.acpub.duke.edu (wilson.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52D237B422 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu [152.16.67.15]) by wilson.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA19233; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by bobzilla.adsl.duke.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8NI4tA04216; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:04:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sto) Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 14:04:55 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: Amergin Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Linksys PCM100 Message-ID: <20000923140455.C4081@stat.Duke.EDU> Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mail-Followup-To: Sean O'Connell , Amergin , FreeBSD mobile References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from amergin@wwa.com on Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 10:53:21AM -0400 X-Organization: House of Schmutzli X-Kitties: Bitty Maya CJ Keisha Jacob Hopey X-Hound: Bob X-OS-of-Choice: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amergin stated: : : Okay, first thanks to those who have already offered their adice. : : On some sound advice I mounted mfsroot on another machine to look at the : pccard.conf and now I am doubly confused. My card, the PCM100, is LISTED. : : #Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Integrated PC Card (PCM100) : card "Linksys" "Etherfast 10/100 Integrated PC Card (PCM100)" : config auto "ed" ? : insert /etc/pccard_ether $device : remove /sbin/ifconfig $device delete : : Okay, then why isn't recognized? : : Here is what happens on install. : : The Linksys card does not have linklight on startup. : : After entering the Visual Kernel config I remove the conflicting network : cards. However all that are listed are: : : IBM EtherJet, CS*9x)-based Ethernet adapters : NE1000, NE2000, 3C503, WD/SMC80xx Ethernet adapters : Fujitsu MD86960A/MD869685A Ethernet adapters : AT&T Starlan 10 and EN100, 3c507, NI5210 Ethernet adapters : DEC Etherworks 2 and 3 Ethernet adapters : Isolan, Novell NE2100/NE32-VL Ethernet adapters : SMC/Megahertz Ethernet adapters : : : After saving the parameters and exiting, the probe finds the pc-card : apparently cause I get linklight then. : : I am told that the PC-card slor is found and wants to know if it wants to : be the installation media. I choose yes. and go through the basic : configuration... : : after then going through basic choices, disk label etc, I choose FTP : Passive as installation media. : : And my options now to use are only SLIP or PPP. : : What is up? AM I missing somehting obvious? I could just cheat and find : some CD's but it is now a matter of pride. I must get this working. I : bought this nic specifically this installtion since my cardbus nics are : not supported. : : Again, this is 4.1 current. : : Thanks again for any leads... Hi- This definitely sounds like an irq issue with your laptop. Of course, not knowing what hardware you are installing on kinda makes that difficult to fathom out. By default the pcic (pccard controller) is run using irq 10 as the interrupt by GENERIC. One trick to free up this irq is to boot the machine in Command line configuration mode and change teh irq associated with pcic0 from 10 to 0 (this will put the pcic in polling mode and free up irq 10 to be used with the nic). This is particualarly pertinent on IBM laptops (where 9 often maybe substituted for 0) and is further caused by sysinstall only allowing a limited # of irq's to be associated wiht the the cards (this was true up until a few days ago in -stable when Jordan MFC'd a change in sysinstall that allows more granularity in hte choice of irqs ... you may want to use a very recent snapshot from releng4 (ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.1-20000923-STABLE) and see if this helps. HTH, S PS. 4.1 is in the -STABLE branch not -CURRENT. -- 1--------01---------01--------01--------01--------01--------01--------0 Sean O'Connell sean@stat.Duke.EDU To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 17:23:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D4D37B422 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24063 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:23:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000923181925.051c3440@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 18:23:18 -0600 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Suspend/Resume fails with X GUI running Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm working on configuring a FreeBSD laptop here -- Dell Inspiron 5000 series, ATI Rage chipset, nice, fast 600 MHz Intel processor. FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE. If it's running text consoles, it suspends/resumes absolutely perfectly. But when it's running any X Windows desktop, it hangs on suspend and must be cold booted. Before I try redebugging the wheel, does anyone have a handle on what might be wrong and how to work around it? --Brett Glass SOCIAL SECURITY: I say we scrap the current system and replace it with a system wherein you add your name to the bottom of a list, and then you send some money to the person at the top of the list, and then you.... Oh, wait, that IS our current system. -- Dave Barry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 19: 3:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a1-3a105.neo.rr.com [24.93.180.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBADA37B424 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e8O1w1A02312; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:58:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:58:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Nowlin To: Brett Glass Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suspend/Resume fails with X GUI running In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000923181925.051c3440@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm working on configuring a FreeBSD laptop here -- Dell Inspiron 5000 > series, ATI Rage chipset, nice, fast 600 MHz Intel processor. FreeBSD > 4.1-STABLE. If it's running text consoles, it suspends/resumes absolutely > perfectly. But when it's running any X Windows desktop, it hangs on suspend > and must be cold booted. Before I try redebugging the wheel, does anyone > have a handle on what might be wrong and how to work around it? My Toshiba 4360 does something similar (Savage IX video chip, patched XF336 server)... When mine comes back out of restore, everything appears to be dead (visually), but it's still considering reality - the serial port login is still going w/o problem - enough to do a shutdown. Same thing happens when switching killing X or switching to a text VC. (BTW, ctrl-alt-del does work from the keyboard, but the video never re-inits when it reboots.) 23rd-century debugging tactics and advanced analysis by a team of NSA mathematicians has suggested that the video chip is getting screwed... :) I'd try getting a serial login going and see what happens. --mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 23 19:23: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB3737B422 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rune (1Cust59.tnt5.baton-rouge.la.da.uu.net [63.26.114.59]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA03435; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Arun Welch" To: "Brett Glass" , Subject: RE: Suspend/Resume fails with X GUI running Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 21:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000923181925.051c3440@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm working on configuring a FreeBSD laptop here -- Dell Inspiron 5000 > series, ATI Rage chipset, nice, fast 600 MHz Intel processor. FreeBSD > 4.1-STABLE. If it's running text consoles, it suspends/resumes absolutely > perfectly. But when it's running any X Windows desktop, it hangs > on suspend > and must be cold booted. Hmm. My 5000 exhibits a different behavior: suspension to disk doesn't work, only suspend-to-standby. On the other hand, screenblank in X locks up the machine hard. ...arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message