From owner-freebsd-qa Sun Oct 29 20: 6: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (064-184-210-067.inaddr.vitts.com [64.184.210.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1769037B4C5; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:06:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9U45wu75483; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:05:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200010300405.e9U45wu75483@spoon.beta.com> To: qa@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: DMA/66 not available for secondary IDE bus? Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:05:58 -0500 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This may be intentional, but I've noticed that if you have a non-UDMA66 device on the primary IDE bus, FreeBSD 4.x does not allow you to have UDMA66 on the secondary bus. To wit, if you had a configuration similar to: Primary bus Older (UDMA33 or earlier) IDE boot disk CD ROM Secondary bus 15GB UDMA 66 disk 15GB UDMA 66 disk then even your 16GB drives can not be UDMA 66, and are limited to the UDMA (or less!) speed provided on the primary bus. This is particularly troubling if one were to use vinum to try to do a mirror, as you will not get optimum performance from the drives. One could argue that shuffling devices around and upgrading the boot drive would solve the problem on one of the 15GB disks, but its still not really an optimal solution, as you'd have to move your CD rom on to the secondary bus, which would kill the other 15GB drive. Any possibility that we could 'unhook' the two PCI buses, and allow the secondary to go to UDMA66 if the first is down at UDMA 33 or slower? -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sun Oct 29 20: 8:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (064-184-210-067.inaddr.vitts.com [64.184.210.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340CA37B479 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9U48au75509 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:08:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200010300408.e9U48au75509@spoon.beta.com> To: qa@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2 10/28 snapshot status Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:08:35 -0500 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had some weird problems with the 10/27 snapshot not installing, but I suspect most of those issues were mine. Therefore, I installed and played with the 10/28 snapshot instead. Overall, there are no major bugs in sysinstall that have been added since 4.1.1. I want to recheck installing via proxy, probably tomorrow night, to see if that is now working. I'm also in the process of diff'ing -STABLE against 4.1.1 to see the areas that could most use regression testing. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sun Oct 29 23:29: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6313837B4C5; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA22815; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:27:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <200010300727.IAA22815@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: DMA/66 not available for secondary IDE bus? In-Reply-To: <200010300405.e9U45wu75483@spoon.beta.com> from Brian McGovern at "Oct 29, 2000 11:05:58 pm" To: mcgovern@spoon.beta.com (Brian McGovern) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:27:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: qa@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Brian McGovern wrote: > This may be intentional, but I've noticed that if you have a non-UDMA66 device > on the primary IDE bus, FreeBSD 4.x does not allow you to have UDMA66 on > the secondary bus. Say what ? there is NO such limitation in the ATA driver.... What chipset are we talking about here ? -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Mon Oct 30 6:14:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from spoon.beta.com (064-184-210-067.inaddr.vitts.com [64.184.210.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6033437B479; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 06:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from spoon.beta.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e9UEDMu76771; Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:13:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mcgovern@spoon.beta.com) Message-Id: <200010301413.e9UEDMu76771@spoon.beta.com> To: Soren Schmidt Cc: qa@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DMA/66 not available for secondary IDE bus? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:27:51 +0100." <200010300727.IAA22815@freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:13:22 -0500 From: Brian McGovern Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Never mind. I'm on drugs. That, and the PC industry loves selling "identical" machines that aren't identical under the cover. I checked the chipset, and it only does ATA33, unlike the other machine I bought from the same place, same catalog number, same order, that does ATA66. One note of interest, then... You may want to remove: ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable for chipsets that don't do ATA66, if you can tell. Its misleading. It implies that if one replaced the cable, one would get ATA66. Hence the confusion about why the secondary bus, which has the cable, wasn't doing it (no message at all). However, the kicker is: atapci0: port 0xc800-0xc80f at device 4.1 on pci0 which makes it clear. But, as mentioned, its "twin" does ATA66, so my bad. But, thats what I get for playing with things when I'm over tired. *feeling like a dumb QA guy* -Brian > It seems Brian McGovern wrote: > > This may be intentional, but I've noticed that if you have a non-UDMA66 device > > on the primary IDE bus, FreeBSD 4.x does not allow you to have UDMA66 on > > the secondary bus. > > Say what ? there is NO such limitation in the ATA driver.... > What chipset are we talking about here ? > > -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Oct 31 3:10: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1B837B479; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca1-166.ix.netcom.com [209.109.232.166]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29962; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 06:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) id e9VB9Nt09760; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 03:09:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Carlos A M dos Santos , kris@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, qa@FreeBSD.ORG, taguchi@tohoku.iij.ad.jp Subject: Re: Making XFree86-4 the default References: <20001026183207.A71629@citusc17.usc.edu> <20001027154337.A8619@citusc17.usc.edu> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 31 Oct 2000 03:08:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: Kris Kennaway's message of "Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:43:37 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: Kris Kennaway * > Well, in 4.1-RELEASE with XFree 3.3.6 it *is* doing something. Look at * > /etc/pam.conf. * * Yes, it does in 3.3.6, we are talking about 4.0.x. Can someone comment on this? I don't use PAM here so I can't verify. * Again, I'm talking about the behaviour of the 4.0.x server. 3.3.6 was * not installed setuid root, but had a setuid root wrapper which * performed some amount of input validation, and was responsible for * catching at least one server buffer overflow. 4.0.x removed that, * although we now have an xwrapper port which should be used by default. Taguchi-san said he will fix this properly last weekend. Hmm, actually the weekend's over now...Taguchi-san? :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sat Nov 4 3:47:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9139E37B479; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 03:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-217.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.217]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02575; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 06:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eA4BjhQ43097; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 03:45:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 03:45:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011041145.eA4BjhQ43097@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: steve@freebsd.org Cc: qa@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2R packages and distfiles ready From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMlYxYxsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Steve, The packages are ready now. You can find them in bento:/var/portbuild/archive/releases/4.2R/ as usual. I also created a directory /a/steve, owned by you, in case you want to work on bento and don't have a password. (You are in the sudoers file.) Thanks! Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sat Nov 4 7:29:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8E437B4CF; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 07:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA4FTA732514; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:29:11 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.0/8.9.3) id eA4FTAx17304; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:29:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:29:10 -0600 From: Steve Price To: Satoshi Asami Cc: qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2R packages and distfiles ready Message-ID: <20001104092910.K70975@bonsai.knology.net> References: <200011041145.eA4BjhQ43097@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011041145.eA4BjhQ43097@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from asami@freebsd.org on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 03:45:44AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 03:45:44AM -0800, Satoshi Asami wrote: # Hi Steve, # # The packages are ready now. You can find them in # # bento:/var/portbuild/archive/releases/4.2R/ # # as usual. Cool, thanks. Looks like I'm going to need more room. Can you free up some space on /a? If you can just do this for me chown -R steve /a/oldbento/b/steve I think I can get enough free space myself. There is some stuff in there I'd like to keep so please don't just delete it all. :) # I also created a directory /a/steve, owned by you, in case you want to # work on bento and don't have a password. (You are in the sudoers # file.) Thanks. Fortunately I don't think I'll need root. I don't have a password on this box (since we started using kerberos) so I can't sudo. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sat Nov 4 11:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC3237B4CF; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-217.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.217]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13360; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eA4JMnO50576; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:22:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: Steve Price Cc: qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.2R packages and distfiles ready References: <200011041145.eA4BjhQ43097@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <20001104092910.K70975@bonsai.knology.net> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 04 Nov 2000 11:21:59 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20001104092910.K70975@bonsai.knology.net> (Steve Price's message of "Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:29:10 -0600") Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.5 (based on Gnus v5.8.7) (revision 06) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 =?ISO-2022-JP?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry, just woke up.... * From: Steve Price * Cool, thanks. Looks like I'm going to need more room. Can * you free up some space on /a? If you can just do this for me * * chown -R steve /a/oldbento/b/steve * * I think I can get enough free space myself. There is some * stuff in there I'd like to keep so please don't just delete * it all. :) Oops. Sorry I didn't notice that the directory is not owned by you! Fixing it now. I'm also installing Tcl/Tk 8.2. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message