From owner-freebsd-small Sun Aug 6 8:41:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5102.mail.yahoo.com (web5102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 690FD37B52C for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 08:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20000806154110.3167.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.101.38.31] by web5102.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 01:41:10 EST Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 01:41:10 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version To: Doug White Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I couldn't find a /boot directory on the floppy. After reading the help for 'kget' it seemed to indicate that the file needs to be called kernel.config and placed in the root directory of the floppy. I tried editing the file called /stand/vanilla and removing sections of the file that weren't relevant to my config. I then saved this edited version as kernel.config on the root of the floppy. Nothing was different when I rebooted the floppy - I was still presented with the kernel config menu again. Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can stop the kernel config screen coming up and specify my configuration? Thanks. --- Doug White wrote: > On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > > > As far as the kernel configuration goes, I'm not > > editing files directly to do this (I don't know > what > > files to edit and what goes in them anyway). I'm > > using the 'Visual configuration manager' that an > > option comes up for each time on boot. I assume > this > > creates a file that the generic PicoBSD kernel > runs > > against when properly initialising? I know how to > > mount the floppy but I just need to know what > files to > > copy to it. > > If those floppies have loader on them, you can > create /boot/kernel.conf > and put your userconfig commands in there. If you > have enough space on > the floppy, that is :) > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power > to Serve > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > _____________________________________________________________________________ http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities - Build your own Web Site - for free! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Aug 6 18:39:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.sibptus.tomsk.ru (gateway.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.176.23.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EBA37BCCC for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 18:38:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from sibptus.tomsk.ru (root@sibptus.tomsk.ru [172.16.138.125]) by gateway.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA73928; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:49:11 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA74229; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:48:39 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from sudakov) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 00:48:38 +0800 From: Victor Sudakov To: Paul Jansen Cc: Doug White , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version Message-ID: <20000807004838.A74136@sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20000806154110.3167.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000806154110.3167.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com>; from vlaero@yahoo.com.au on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 01:41:10AM +1000 Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 01:41:10AM +1000, Paul Jansen wrote: > Hi, > > I couldn't find a /boot directory on the floppy. > After reading the help for 'kget' it seemed to > indicate that the file needs to be called > kernel.config and placed in the root directory of the > floppy. I tried editing the file called > /stand/vanilla and removing sections of the file that > weren't relevant to my config. I then saved this > edited version as kernel.config on the root of the > floppy. Nothing was different when I rebooted the > floppy - I was still presented with the kernel config > menu again. > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can stop > the kernel config screen coming up and specify my > configuration? It seems to be broken here. In fact, the whole PicoBSD project seems to be forsaken. I failed to make 'update' work. > > Thanks. > > --- Doug White wrote: > On > Fri, 4 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > > > > > As far as the kernel configuration goes, I'm not > > > editing files directly to do this (I don't know > > what > > > files to edit and what goes in them anyway). I'm > > > using the 'Visual configuration manager' that an > > > option comes up for each time on boot. I assume > > this > > > creates a file that the generic PicoBSD kernel > > runs > > > against when properly initialising? I know how to > > > mount the floppy but I just need to know what > > files to > > > copy to it. > > > > If those floppies have loader on them, you can > > create /boot/kernel.conf > > and put your userconfig commands in there. If you > > have enough space on > > the floppy, that is :) > > > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power > > to Serve > > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities > - Build your own Web Site - for free! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/149@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Aug 7 2:29:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5A337B753 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 02:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@sunesi.net) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13LjDQ-000Ol5-00; Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:29:00 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:29:00 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Paul Jansen , Doug White , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version Message-ID: <20000807112859.A95145@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000806154110.3167.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> <20000807004838.A74136@sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000807004838.A74136@sibptus.tomsk.ru>; from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru on Mon, Aug 07, 2000 at 12:48:38AM +0800 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon 2000-08-07 (00:48), Victor Sudakov wrote: > > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can stop > > the kernel config screen coming up and specify my > > configuration? > > It seems to be broken here. In fact, the whole PicoBSD project seems > to be forsaken. I failed to make 'update' work. Like everything in life, and especially FreeBSD, coming in afterwards and saying "It doesn't work", and not actually trying in any way to fix it is generally thought to be pointless, if not counter-productive. You can use send-pr and related tools to report bugs in PicoBSD too, if you didn't know. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Aug 7 8:44:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.122.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3C237B8F4 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e77FiE477154; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version In-Reply-To: <20000806154110.3167.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can stop > the kernel config screen coming up and specify my > configuration? Oh, *that* :) You have to rebuild the kernel on the floppy and remove the INTRO_USERCONFIG option. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Aug 7 16:53:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5102.mail.yahoo.com (web5102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D33A37B50C for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:53:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20000807235315.17724.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.11.192.243] by web5102.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:53:15 EST Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:53:15 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version To: Doug White Cc: small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks Doug. I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not being saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is saving my device configuration- another part is the kernel config screen popping up. It's no use to me taking the Kernel config screen away unless my settings are saved somewhere else (and being loaded at boot time). I won't be able to use my hardware otherwise! The PicoBSD splash screen says that the Kernel config screen will come up first time. Maybe if I can save my settings somehow it won't come up anymore? Cheers, Paul --- Doug White wrote: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > > > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can > stop > > the kernel config screen coming up and specify my > > configuration? > > Oh, *that* :) > > You have to rebuild the kernel on the floppy and > remove the > INTRO_USERCONFIG option. > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power > to Serve > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > _____________________________________________________________________________ http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities - Build your own Web Site - for free! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Aug 7 23:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5104.mail.yahoo.com (web5104.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA7C337BC88 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20000808062411.5482.qmail@web5104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.11.192.243] by web5104.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:24:11 EST Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:24:11 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version To: phils@staub.net Cc: small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your help Phil. I'll try a few things tonight. How do I go about building a new PicoBSD disk image for another release? I've had a browse trough the FTp site in the CVS section. Can I pull down non development stuff from CVS? Say I wanted to get Pico from the 3.3.6 release. How would I go about doing it? I'll be reading about how to edit and recompile the Kernel tonight in the book 'the complete FreeBSD', but I was just after some hints as to how to make a new PicoBSD. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul --- Phil Staub wrote: > Hi Paul: > > I'm pretty new to PicoBSD myself, but I believe that > what you're > seeing is due to one of two possible problems. First > of all, perhaps > the changes that are being made are to the > in-memory, running OS. When > you reboot, the filesystem supporting that OS goes > away, and if the > configuration was stored there, your cofiguration > goes with it. The > other (more likely) possibility is that the > kernel.config file (which > is where your settings from the config utility are > stored) are either > not being saved, or saved in the wrong place. > > First of all, what I did is to go into the > configuration directory for > the PicoBSD model I'm using > (/usr/src/release/picobsd/net), and edit > the kernel configuration file, which is named > PICOBSD. Then when I > rebuilt, I got only the drivers, number of units, > and other settings I > specified in the config file. > > The other possibility (and what I believe *should* > have happened when > you agreed to write the configuration changes) is > that in the root > directory of the boot floppy is the file > 'kernel.config'. (Now, this > is what *I* got. I built PicoBSD from a 3.4-RELEASE > system. YMMV) On a > standard FreeBSD system this file is read to > determine how to alter > settings on a generic kernel (things like disabling > certain drivers, > changing port/irq/dma settings, etc.). The problem > is that the > /boot/defaults/loader.conf file seems to indicate > that kernel.conf is > expected to be in /boot, not /. For me, it says: > > userconfig_script_name="/boot/kernel.conf" > > If you have that file in /, try moving it to /boot > (but you'll > probably want to make sure it has something in it > first). Also, note > that /boot/defaults/loader.conf contains a line that > says: > > userconfig_script_load="NO" > > which is overridden by /boot/loader.conf by > > userconfig_script_load="YES" > > Make sure you have /boot/loader.conf, and that it > contains (at least) > that line. > > > Good Luck, > Phil > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:53:15AM +1000, Paul > Jansen wrote: > > Thanks Doug. > > > > I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not being > > saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is > saving > > my device configuration- another part is the > kernel > > config screen popping up. It's no use to me > taking > > the Kernel config screen away unless my settings > are > > saved somewhere else (and being loaded at boot > time). > > I won't be able to use my hardware otherwise! > > The PicoBSD splash screen says that the Kernel > config > > screen will come up first time. Maybe if I can > save > > my settings somehow it won't come up anymore? > > > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > --- Doug White wrote: > > On > > Mon, 7 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can > > > stop > > > > the kernel config screen coming up and specify > my > > > > configuration? > > > > > > Oh, *that* :) > > > > > > You have to rebuild the kernel on the floppy and > > > remove the > > > INTRO_USERCONFIG option. > > > > > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The > Power > > > to Serve > > > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & > NZ GeoCities > > - Build your own Web Site - for free! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of > the message > > > > -- > Phil Staub, KE7HC > phils@staub.net > Unix: because reboots are for hardware upgrades _____________________________________________________________________________ http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities - Build your own Web Site - for free! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 8 0: 2:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from crackrock.net (crackrock.net [206.165.207.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD31F37B5FA for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bludwulf@crackrock.net) Received: from localhost (bludwulf@localhost) by crackrock.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20159 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:03:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:03:56 +0000 (/etc/localtime) From: To: small@freebsd.org Subject: embedded processors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will freebsd run on any other artchitectures like lineo is trying to do? IE, ARM processors, motorola processors, etc. -bludwulf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 8 0: 7:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4942937B6CE for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA90821; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:07:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA37989; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 01:06:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008080706.BAA37989@harmony.village.org> To: bludwulf@crackrock.net Subject: Re: embedded processors Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Aug 2000 07:03:56 -0000." References: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 01:06:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message bludwulf@crackrock.net writes: : Will freebsd run on any other artchitectures like lineo is trying to : do? IE, ARM processors, motorola processors, etc. There have been efforts in the past to port FreeBSD to other architectures: powerpc, mips, 68k, alpha, sparc, sparc64, arm, and maybe a few others I don't recall off the top of my head. Only the Alpha port reached crticial mass and was integrated into the tree. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 8 2:49:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D3C37B79C for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 02:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark.farley@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e789o4B04602 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:20:04 +0930 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:20:07 +0930 Received: from fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (fang.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.5]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id TAA14393 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:11:56 +0930 (CST) Received: from fmbex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (fmbex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [146.221.39.73]) by fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id TAA20445 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:11:55 +0930 (CST) Received: by fmbex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:42:00 +1000 Message-ID: From: "Farley, Mark" To: "'freebsd-small@freebsd.org'" Subject: suscribe Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 19:41:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 8 22:30: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from dopey.unlimited.net (dopey.unlimited.net [209.186.200.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8D737B9FA for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norami@unlimited.net) Received: from unlimited.net (ts2-89.unlimited.net [209.186.200.89]) by dopey.unlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16682; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:31:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3990EDC4.577CAB39@unlimited.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 22:36:04 -0700 From: John Oram Reply-To: norami@unlimited.net Organization: norAmi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,x-ns1dzwuwOCyNhP,x-ns2r2809OnmPe2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bludwulf@crackrock.net Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: embedded processors References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Linux flavors are ported to ARM cpu(s) John O bludwulf@crackrock.net wrote: > > Will freebsd run on any other artchitectures like lineo is trying to > do? IE, ARM processors, motorola processors, etc. > > -bludwulf > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 6:45:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5105.mail.yahoo.com (web5105.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCCBA37BA2D for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 06:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20000809134500.14106.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.101.38.21] by web5105.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 23:45:00 EST Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:45:00 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version To: Phillip Davenport Cc: small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well it seems that the presence of a kernel.conf file in the root directory of the floppy has stopped the visual kernel configuration screen coming up. It seems that having 'USERCONFIG' at tyhe top and 'quit' at the bottom is what was needed. My problem now is that I have no idea what should be in the file. When the kernel is loaded and it parses the commands in my kernel.conf file the messages fly by on the screen so quickly. Is there any way I can pause it so that I can read these messages? As the messages fly by I have noticed that it doesn't like the commands I have in my file. Can someone help me with what format the config commands in this file should be in? Are there instructions or a reference to this any where? Thanks, Paul --- Phillip Davenport wrote: > In article > <20000807235315.17724.qmail_web5102.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> > you wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not being > > saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is > saving > > my device configuration- another part is the > kernel > > config screen popping up. > > This the undocumented /kernel.config recipe. > > Mount the dial floppy. > edit /kernel.config > insert text [without quotes] > 'USERCONFIG' > [your config commands] > 'quit' > save /kernel.config > > The USER_CONFIG setup in PicoBSD .04x doesn't save > /kernel.config.. > > p > _____________________________________________________________________________ http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities - Build your own Web Site - for free! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 8:26:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3637BB5D for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 838E8A845; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:26:53 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AAA544C; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:26:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:26:53 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Cc: Phillip Davenport , small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version In-Reply-To: <20000809134500.14106.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > screen so quickly. Is there any way I can pause it so > that I can read these messages? As the messages fly Press scroll lock and use the cursor keys. > have in my file. Can someone help me with what format > the config commands in this file should be in? Are > there instructions or a reference to this any where? You could look at the output of kget...from memory its just the commands you could type into the kernel configuration screen at boot (the CLI one not the full screen one)..that is "di dev0" "q" etc Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 8:59:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5104.mail.yahoo.com (web5104.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7266037BAF5 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20000809155910.16648.qmail@web5104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.101.38.21] by web5104.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:59:10 EST Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:59:10 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version To: phils@staub.net Cc: small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for your help guys. I've managed to get a kernel.conf file on the root of my Pico floppy and it is now booting up with the right settings. I'm not getting the kernel config screen coming up now. Can anyone verify that PicoBSD built from the sources that come with the FreeBSD 4.1 distribution will fit on a 1.44 floppy? If not, will it fit if you customise the kernel? Thanks again. --- Phil Staub wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:45:00PM +1000, Paul > Jansen wrote: > > Well it seems that the presence of a kernel.conf > file > > in the root directory of the floppy has stopped > the > > visual kernel configuration screen coming up. It > > seems that having 'USERCONFIG' at tyhe top and > 'quit' > > at the bottom is what was needed. My problem now > is > > that I have no idea what should be in the file. > > There are commands in that file something like: > > di psm0 > di zp0 > di ze0 > di lnc0 > di le0 > di ie0 > di fe0 > di ex0 > di ep0 > di cs0 > di wt0 > di scd0 > di mcd0 > di matcdc0 > di aic0 > di aha0 > di adv0 > q > > (This is the content of my kernel.conf file on my > "big" machine.) > > Also, if you have changed port addresses, irq > settings, or dma > settings, these are in there too. Though I don't > have any examples in > my file, I think they are of the form: > > port > irq > dma > > > When the kernel is loaded and it parses the > commands > > in my kernel.conf file the messages fly by on the > > screen so quickly. Is there any way I can pause > it so > > that I can read these messages? As the messages > fly > > Once the machine has booted, login (if your > configuration has a login > shell) and type > dmesg | more > at the prompt. This will "replay" the startup > message piped through > more. > > > > by I have noticed that it doesn't like the > commands I > > have in my file. Can someone help me with what > format > > the config commands in this file should be in? > Are > > there instructions or a reference to this any > where? > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > --- Phillip Davenport > > > wrote: > In article > > > > > > <20000807235315.17724.qmail_web5102.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> > > > you wrote: > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not > being > > > > saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is > > > saving > > > > my device configuration- another part is the > > > kernel > > > > config screen popping up. > > > > > > This the undocumented /kernel.config recipe. > > > > > > Mount the dial floppy. > > > edit /kernel.config > > > insert text [without quotes] > > > 'USERCONFIG' > > > [your config commands] > > > 'quit' > > > save /kernel.config > > > > > > The USER_CONFIG setup in PicoBSD .04x doesn't > save > > > /kernel.config.. > > > > > > p > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & > NZ GeoCities > > - Build your own Web Site - for free! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of > the message > > > > -- > Phil Staub, KE7HC > phils@staub.net > Unix: because reboots are for hardware upgrades _____________________________________________________________________________ http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities - Build your own Web Site - for free! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 10:15:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.cloudnet.com (apollo.cloudnet.com [199.199.220.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167AE37BE6C for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phillipd@cloudnet.com) Received: from antares.cloudnet.com (antares.cloudnet.com [199.199.220.12]) by apollo.cloudnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12920; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:14:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:14:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Davenport To: andrew@ugh.net.au Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= , small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: [...] > > You could look at the output of kget... kget is busted in PicoBSD .042.. p To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 17:26:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4701A37C006 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ugh.net.au) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0CC8FA845; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:26:48 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00966544C; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:26:47 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:26:47 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: Phillip Davenport Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= , small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Phillip Davenport wrote: > kget is busted in PicoBSD .042.. Try a kget from regular FreeBSD. Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 9 23:48: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from casagate.staub.net (c356176-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com [24.9.56.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F4E37B64F for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phils@staub.net) Received: by casagate.staub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5B2E51B25; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 22:23:23 -0700 From: Phil Staub To: Paul Jansen Cc: Doug White , small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version Message-ID: <20000807222322.A34023@mail> Reply-To: phils@staub.net References: <20000807235315.17724.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000807235315.17724.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com>; from vlaero@yahoo.com.au on Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:53:15AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Paul: I'm pretty new to PicoBSD myself, but I believe that what you're seeing is due to one of two possible problems. First of all, perhaps the changes that are being made are to the in-memory, running OS. When you reboot, the filesystem supporting that OS goes away, and if the configuration was stored there, your cofiguration goes with it. The other (more likely) possibility is that the kernel.config file (which is where your settings from the config utility are stored) are either not being saved, or saved in the wrong place. First of all, what I did is to go into the configuration directory for the PicoBSD model I'm using (/usr/src/release/picobsd/net), and edit the kernel configuration file, which is named PICOBSD. Then when I rebuilt, I got only the drivers, number of units, and other settings I specified in the config file. The other possibility (and what I believe *should* have happened when you agreed to write the configuration changes) is that in the root directory of the boot floppy is the file 'kernel.config'. (Now, this is what *I* got. I built PicoBSD from a 3.4-RELEASE system. YMMV) On a standard FreeBSD system this file is read to determine how to alter settings on a generic kernel (things like disabling certain drivers, changing port/irq/dma settings, etc.). The problem is that the /boot/defaults/loader.conf file seems to indicate that kernel.conf is expected to be in /boot, not /. For me, it says: userconfig_script_name="/boot/kernel.conf" If you have that file in /, try moving it to /boot (but you'll probably want to make sure it has something in it first). Also, note that /boot/defaults/loader.conf contains a line that says: userconfig_script_load="NO" which is overridden by /boot/loader.conf by userconfig_script_load="YES" Make sure you have /boot/loader.conf, and that it contains (at least) that line. Good Luck, Phil On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 09:53:15AM +1000, Paul Jansen wrote: > Thanks Doug. > > I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not being > saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is saving > my device configuration- another part is the kernel > config screen popping up. It's no use to me taking > the Kernel config screen away unless my settings are > saved somewhere else (and being loaded at boot time). > I won't be able to use my hardware otherwise! > The PicoBSD splash screen says that the Kernel config > screen will come up first time. Maybe if I can save > my settings somehow it won't come up anymore? > > Cheers, > Paul > > --- Doug White wrote: > On > Mon, 7 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Paul Jansen wrote: > > > > > Has anyone got any other ideas as to how I can > > stop > > > the kernel config screen coming up and specify my > > > configuration? > > > > Oh, *that* :) > > > > You have to rebuild the kernel on the floppy and > > remove the > > INTRO_USERCONFIG option. > > > > Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power > > to Serve > > dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities > - Build your own Web Site - for free! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > -- Phil Staub, KE7HC phils@staub.net Unix: because reboots are for hardware upgrades To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Aug 10 0:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from casagate.staub.net (c356176-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com [24.9.56.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A02C37B952 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:37:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phils@staub.net) Received: by casagate.staub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D70F1B28; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:13:48 -0700 From: Phil Staub To: Paul Jansen Cc: Phillip Davenport , small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD help - dial version Message-ID: <20000809071348.A42520@mail> Reply-To: phils@staub.net References: <20000809134500.14106.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000809134500.14106.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com>; from vlaero@yahoo.com.au on Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:45:00PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 11:45:00PM +1000, Paul Jansen wrote: > Well it seems that the presence of a kernel.conf file > in the root directory of the floppy has stopped the > visual kernel configuration screen coming up. It > seems that having 'USERCONFIG' at tyhe top and 'quit' > at the bottom is what was needed. My problem now is > that I have no idea what should be in the file. There are commands in that file something like: di psm0 di zp0 di ze0 di lnc0 di le0 di ie0 di fe0 di ex0 di ep0 di cs0 di wt0 di scd0 di mcd0 di matcdc0 di aic0 di aha0 di adv0 q (This is the content of my kernel.conf file on my "big" machine.) Also, if you have changed port addresses, irq settings, or dma settings, these are in there too. Though I don't have any examples in my file, I think they are of the form: port irq dma > When the kernel is loaded and it parses the commands > in my kernel.conf file the messages fly by on the > screen so quickly. Is there any way I can pause it so > that I can read these messages? As the messages fly Once the machine has booted, login (if your configuration has a login shell) and type dmesg | more at the prompt. This will "replay" the startup message piped through more. > by I have noticed that it doesn't like the commands I > have in my file. Can someone help me with what format > the config commands in this file should be in? Are > there instructions or a reference to this any where? > > Thanks, > Paul > > --- Phillip Davenport > wrote: > In article > > > <20000807235315.17724.qmail_web5102.mail.yahoo.com@ns.sol.net> > > you wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty sure that my configuration is not being > > > saved anywhere though. Part of the problem is > > saving > > > my device configuration- another part is the > > kernel > > > config screen popping up. > > > > This the undocumented /kernel.config recipe. > > > > Mount the dial floppy. > > edit /kernel.config > > insert text [without quotes] > > 'USERCONFIG' > > [your config commands] > > 'quit' > > save /kernel.config > > > > The USER_CONFIG setup in PicoBSD .04x doesn't save > > /kernel.config.. > > > > p > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://geocities.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Australia & NZ GeoCities > - Build your own Web Site - for free! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > -- Phil Staub, KE7HC phils@staub.net Unix: because reboots are for hardware upgrades To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message