From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 4:36:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from THUNDERstorm.plex.nl (THUNDERstorm.plex.nl [194.229.212.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4858F37B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 04:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikan@itti.nl) Received: from itti.nl (dial-1d054.plex.nl [213.129.196.54]) by THUNDERstorm.plex.nl (8.11.1/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id f31BZE017621 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:35:15 +0200 (MET DST) X-Notice: Plex is a public access Internet provider -- http://www.plex.nl Message-ID: <3AC7130F.5A282AD9@itti.nl> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:37:51 +0200 From: mikan huppertz Reply-To: mikan@itti.nl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: dec AXP 4000-710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Can anyone tell me if it's possible to run ant BSD on a DEC AXP 4000-710? regards, Mikan Huppertz PLAYcollective To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 6:52: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (imul.math.uni.lodz.pl [212.191.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B1937B718; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dagoon@math.uni.lodz.pl) Received: by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent, from userid 1168) id 2EAC91F47; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:51:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent) with ESMTP id 1DE4017435; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:51:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:51:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcin Gryszkalis To: David O'Brien Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gperf segfail on 4.3b In-Reply-To: <20010331151815.B73740@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Yesterday David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 12:55:14AM +0200, Marcin Gryszkalis wrote: > > > > > > gperf -p -j1 -i 1 -g -o -t -G -N is_reserved_word -k1,3,$ > > > > > > Segmentation fault - core dumped > > > My DS-20 RELENG_4 (ie, 4.3-RC) `make world' completed just fine. > > And how is your AlphaStation250? fine too? (I hope not ;) ) > Yes, the build completed just fine. SO, I started digging... What I found is: gperf/tests$ ../src/gperf -p -j1 -g -o -t -N is_reserved_word -k1,3,$ c-parse.gperf [core dumped info] ldah# gdb ../src/gperf gperf.core [...] Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. #0 0x12000dbc8 in strcspn1 (s=0x12002e168 "__alignof, ALIGNOF, NORID", reject=0x0) at ./key-list.cc:162 162 for (scan = s; *scan; scan++) (gdb) bt #0 0x12000dbc8 in strcspn1 (s=0x12002e168 "__alignof, ALIGNOF, NORID", reject=0x0) at ./key-list.cc:162 #1 0x1200069f4 in parse_line (line=0x12002e168 "__alignof, ALIGNOF, NORID",delimiters=0x0) at ./key-list.cc:335 #2 0x120006e20 in Key_List::read_keys (this=0x11ffba10) at ./key-list.cc:376 #3 0x120004058 in Gen_Perf::Gen_Perf (this=0x11ffba10) at ./gen-perf.cc:39 #4 0x120003dec in main (argc=10, argv=0x11ffbae8) at ./main.cc:62 As we can see above, delimiters are NULL, and they come NULL from option (class Options), as because of [can't-see-any-reason] constructor of Options class is not called (in constructor default delimiters are set). Any idea why constructor may be not called??? In options.cc there'ss just 'Options option;' Spec. delimiters to gperf (-e option) helps but not much. Oh, btw, destructor is not called too. greetings marcin -- .d$$$$b, $d$$$$b. .d$$$$b, Marcin Gryszkalis $$' `"" $$' `"' $$' `$$ $$. .ss $$ $$ $$ (...) QED. (QED translates from the Latin `"8$$8"' 88 88 88 as "So what?") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 8:55:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (imul.math.uni.lodz.pl [212.191.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3090D37B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dagoon@math.uni.lodz.pl) Received: by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent, from userid 1168) id CCCB31F47; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent) with ESMTP id A741117435 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:54:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcin Gryszkalis To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gperf segfail on 4.3b In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As we can see above, delimiters are NULL, and they come NULL from > option (class Options), as because of [can't-see-any-reason] constructor > of Options class is not called (in constructor default delimiters are Ok, seems like I have a real problem: this source: -x.cc--------------------------------------------- #include class dg { public: dg(){puts("C");} ~dg() {puts("D");} void work(){puts("W");} }; dg d0; int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { dg d1; dg *d2=new dg; d0.work(); d1.work(); d2->work(); return 0; } ----------------------------------------------- gives 'CCWWWD' as result while it should 'CCCWWWDD'. Constructor and destructor for d0 are NOT called. Compiled with 'g++ x.cc -o x' Seems like something BAD happened in early 4.3-BETA, it was Mar 13th (yes 13th :( ). The question is - what should I do? Does it mean I have gcc broken? please help :) marcin -- .d$$$$b, $d$$$$b. .d$$$$b, Marcin Gryszkalis $$' `"" $$' `"' $$' `$$ $$. .ss $$ $$ $$ (...) QED. (QED translates from the Latin `"8$$8"' 88 88 88 as "So what?") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 13: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D75337B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f31K73861269; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:07:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Marcin Gryszkalis Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gperf segfail on 4.3b Message-ID: <20010401130702.A60525@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dagoon@math.uni.lodz.pl on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:54:42PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 05:54:42PM +0200, Marcin Gryszkalis wrote: > Ok, seems like I have a real problem: this source: > ----------------------------------------------- > gives 'CCWWWD' as result while it should 'CCCWWWDD'. Constructor and > destructor for d0 are NOT called. How do you know which ctor/dtor is being called with the way you wrote this? Try this version: #include class dg { char *n; public: dg(){n=""; puts("C'");} dg(char *s){n=s; printf("C%s\n",n);} ~dg() {printf("D%s\n",n);} void work(char *s){printf("W%s\n",s);} }; dg d0("0"); int main (int argc, char *argv[]) { dg d1("1"); dg *d2=new dg("2"); d0.work("0"); d1.work("1"); d2->work("2"); return 0; } I believe you mean dtor for d2 NOT called -- you never delete the pointer, so how could it get called? x86 -current: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 x86 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 Alpha 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 14:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (imul.math.uni.lodz.pl [212.191.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701FB37B718; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dagoon@math.uni.lodz.pl) Received: by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent, from userid 1168) id 125F51F47; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:51:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent) with ESMTP id F3B0917435; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:51:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcin Gryszkalis To: David O'Brien Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gperf segfail on 4.3b In-Reply-To: <20010401130702.A60525@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Today David O'Brien wrote: > How do you know which ctor/dtor is being called with the way you wrote > this? Try this version: I know because I spent 4 hours trying to make gperf work and have the same problem, anyway here it goes: dagoon@ldah:~,0> g++ y.cc -o y dagoon@ldah:~,0> ./y C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 dagoon@ldah:~,0> uname -a FreeBSD ldah.math.uni.lodz.pl 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #10: Tue Mar 13 11:32:21 CET 2001 root@ldah.math.uni.lodz.pl:/usr/src/sys/compile/ldah alpha > I believe you mean dtor for d2 NOT called -- you never delete the > pointer, so how could it get called? > > x86 -current: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 > x86 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 > Alpha 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 Did I say I really have a problem? :) greetings marcin (still waiting for help) -- .d$$$$b, $d$$$$b. .d$$$$b, Marcin Gryszkalis $$' `"" $$' `"' $$' `$$ $$. .ss $$ $$ $$ (...) QED. (QED translates from the Latin `"8$$8"' 88 88 88 as "So what?") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 17:15:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4156537B719 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 8BE0120D0; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:14:44 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3AC7C474.00002B.59989@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_K025AEEZ5BZNTT4D7TH0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Who wrote the loader From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_K025AEEZ5BZNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone. The work on the SRM loader continues. I've got the problem very narrowed down. Every time open() in libstand is called, it ends up calling devopen(). I'm still trying to figure out why... devopen ends up calling prom_open which is causing the actual problem on the AS1200. I am continuing to work on this tonight, but does anyone know why the standard open call would be trying to open the block device? My guess is that when it was ported this code detected calls to open block devices and sets the f_flags F_RAW flag if this is the case. Who would have written this code? I'm just wondering if someone out there can add (or change) my understanding off the top of their heads. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_K025AEEZ5BZNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 17:21:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432E237B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26093; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:21:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who wrote the loader In-Reply-To: <3AC7C474.00002B.59989@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It might have been Doug Rabson who wrote this original code. I'm not really sure. Thanks for tracking this down. On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Michael Richards wrote: > Hi everyone. > > The work on the SRM loader continues. I've got the problem very > narrowed down. Every time open() in libstand is called, it ends up > calling devopen(). I'm still trying to figure out why... devopen ends > up calling prom_open which is causing the actual problem on the > AS1200. > > I am continuing to work on this tonight, but does anyone know why the > standard open call would be trying to open the block device? My guess > is that when it was ported this code detected calls to open block > devices and sets the f_flags F_RAW flag if this is the case. > > Who would have written this code? I'm just wondering if someone out > there can add (or change) my understanding off the top of their heads. > > -Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 22:19:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9395937B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 3091220DA; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:18:48 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3AC80BB8.000059.59989@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_C3G5WYN2Q7BNTT4D7TH0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Proposed Loader fix Cc: mjacob@feral.com From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_C3G5WYN2Q7BNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Hate to be polluting the list with babble about how my underpowered :) brain is working on what I thought would be a simple loader problem. Here is the problem: Every time open (in libstand) gets called, it must get info on the device through the devopen() call. The problem is, devopen() has no concept of whether the device is open or not so it blindly tries to open the device (even though it may already be open). This results in a call to prom_open which is causing the problems with some versions of SRM. My proposed solution is: Modify the devsw struct. Here is the original: /* * Device switch */ struct devsw { const char dv_name[8]; int dv_type; /* opaque type constant, arch- dependant */ int (*dv_init)(void); /* early probe call */ int (*dv_strategy)(void *devdata, int rw, daddr_t blk, size_t size, char *buf, size_t *rsize); int (*dv_open)(struct open_file *f, ...); int (*dv_close)(struct open_file *f); int (*dv_ioctl)(struct open_file *f, u_long cmd, void *data); void (*dv_print)(int verbose); /* print device information */ void (*dv_cleanup)(void); }; This appears to carry info about the device. So I say that I should be able to add a flag to it so it will not be opened multiple times. Portability? No idea. It might cause everything to blow up. I'm really new to modifying OS level source, let alone changing data structures so I'm not sure the proper procedure or if this struct should even be mucked with. int dv_opened; Set this to 0 on initialisation, set it to 1 on open and set it to 0 on close. This way each device can be opened once and only once no matter how many dev_open calls. So this is my proposal. Feel free to comment on it. It will take a little hacking to get this change in, but if nobody takes exception to this, I'll do it and post patches. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_C3G5WYN2Q7BNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 1 23:29:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B1D37B71F for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA26714; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:29:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix In-Reply-To: <3AC80BB8.000059.59989@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think this is exactly what we've been looking for- but what we need is some cross platform knowledge here. Asking the original author of this particular module collection), Mike Smith (msmith@freebsd.org), might be really beneficial. On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Michael Richards wrote: > Hi. > > Hate to be polluting the list with babble about how my > underpowered :) brain is working on what I thought would be a simple > loader problem. > > Here is the problem: > Every time open (in libstand) gets called, it must get info on the > device through the devopen() call. The problem is, devopen() has no > concept of whether the device is open or not so it blindly tries to > open the device (even though it may already be open). This results in > a call to prom_open which is causing the problems with some versions > of SRM. > > My proposed solution is: > Modify the devsw struct. Here is the original: > /* > * Device switch > */ > struct devsw { > const char dv_name[8]; > int dv_type; /* opaque type constant, arch- > dependant */ > int (*dv_init)(void); /* early probe call */ > int (*dv_strategy)(void *devdata, int rw, daddr_t blk, > size_t size, > char *buf, size_t *rsize); > int (*dv_open)(struct open_file *f, ...); > int (*dv_close)(struct open_file *f); > int (*dv_ioctl)(struct open_file *f, u_long cmd, void > *data); > void (*dv_print)(int verbose); /* print device > information */ > void (*dv_cleanup)(void); > }; > > This appears to carry info about the device. So I say that I should > be able to add a flag to it so it will not be opened multiple times. > Portability? No idea. It might cause everything to blow up. I'm > really new to modifying OS level source, let alone changing data > structures so I'm not sure the proper procedure or if this struct > should even be mucked with. > > int dv_opened; > > Set this to 0 on initialisation, set it to 1 on open and set it to 0 > on close. This way each device can be opened once and only once no > matter how many dev_open calls. > > So this is my proposal. Feel free to comment on it. It will take a > little hacking to get this change in, but if nobody takes exception > to this, I'll do it and post patches. > > -Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 0: 6:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3575D37B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3275IC08101; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200104020705.f3275IC08101@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Michael Richards" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Apr 2001 01:18:48 EDT." <3AC80BB8.000059.59989@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 00:05:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hate to be polluting the list with babble about how my > underpowered :) brain is working on what I thought would be a simple > loader problem. It's not a simple problem, and I'm glad that you've been slogging through it. It's effort like yours that gets these last-5% problems fixed, so don't put it down too much. 8) > Here is the problem: > Every time open (in libstand) gets called, it must get info on the > device through the devopen() call. The problem is, devopen() has no > concept of whether the device is open or not so it blindly tries to > open the device (even though it may already be open). This results in > a call to prom_open which is causing the problems with some versions > of SRM. The devopen() call is necessary, because the media may have changed, etc.a > My proposed solution is: > Modify the devsw struct. Here is the original: ... > This appears to carry info about the device. So I say that I should > be able to add a flag to it so it will not be opened multiple times. Don't do this. Try adding some caching to libalpha so that it doesn't open the prom device more than once. Since we only need one handle (SRM doesn't support more than one device), once we've got one, we can always reuse it. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 3:28:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2853C37B71E; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14k1Zo-000JHq-0A; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:28:49 +0000 Received: from herring (herring [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f32ARX705136; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:27:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:27:33 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith Cc: Michael Richards , , Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix In-Reply-To: <200104020705.f3275IC08101@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > My proposed solution is: > > Modify the devsw struct. Here is the original: > ... > > This appears to carry info about the device. So I say that I should > > be able to add a flag to it so it will not be opened multiple times. > > Don't do this. Try adding some caching to libalpha so that it doesn't > open the prom device more than once. Since we only need one handle (SRM > doesn't support more than one device), once we've got one, we can always > reuse it. How about something like this (untested) patch. I'm not entirely happy with it since it will never call prom_close and I remember having problems with ncr hardware not probing properly if we didn't close it in the loader. Possibly an 'open count' or similar would suffice. Index: srmdisk.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 srmdisk.c --- srmdisk.c 2000/03/15 01:53:34 1.9 +++ srmdisk.c 2001/04/02 10:22:17 @@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ int bd_unit; /* SRM unit number */ int bd_namelen; int bd_flags; + int bd_fd; } bdinfo [MAXBDDEV]; static int nbdinfo = 0; @@ -113,6 +114,7 @@ ret.bits = prom_getenv(PROM_E_BOOTED_DEV, bdinfo[0].bd_name, sizeof(bdinfo[0].bd_name)); bdinfo[0].bd_namelen = ret.u.retval; + bdinfo[0].bd_fd = -1; nbdinfo++; return (0); @@ -155,7 +157,7 @@ struct disklabel *lp; int sector, slice, i; int error; - int unit; + int unit, fd; prom_return_t ret; va_start(args, f); @@ -169,11 +171,16 @@ } /* Call the prom to open the disk. */ - ret.bits = prom_open(bdinfo[unit].bd_name, bdinfo[unit].bd_namelen); - if (ret.u.status == 2) - return (ENXIO); - if (ret.u.status == 3) - return (EIO); + if (bdinfo[unit].bd_fd < 0) { + ret.bits = prom_open(bdinfo[unit].bd_name, bdinfo[unit].bd_namelen); + if (ret.u.status == 2) + return (ENXIO); + if (ret.u.status == 3) + return (EIO); + bdinfo[unit].bd_fd = fd = ret.u.retval; + } else { + fd = bdinfo[unit].bd_fd; + } od = (struct open_disk *) malloc(sizeof(struct open_disk)); if (!od) { @@ -182,7 +189,7 @@ } /* Look up SRM unit number, intialise open_disk structure */ - od->od_fd = ret.u.retval; + od->od_fd = fd; od->od_unit = dev->d_kind.srmdisk.unit; od->od_flags = bdinfo[od->od_unit].bd_flags; od->od_boff = 0; @@ -321,7 +328,9 @@ { struct open_disk *od = f->f_devdata; +#if 0 (void)prom_close(od->od_fd); +#endif free(od); f->f_devdata = NULL; -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 6:37:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D258337B71E; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:37:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08747; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32Db2p92768; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15048.32894.448398.651083@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gperf segfail on 4.3b In-Reply-To: <20010401130702.A60525@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010401130702.A60525@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > > x86 -current: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 > x86 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 > Alpha 4.3-RC#2: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 > Add in Alpha -current: C0 C1 C2 W0 W1 W2 D1 D0 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 7: 0:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.159.1.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF5F37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32369 for alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:00:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:00:37 +0100 From: Geoff Buckingham To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ATA on AXPpci33 Message-ID: <20010402150036.A32344@chuggalug.clues.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been trying to get an IDE DVD working on a AXPpci33 based machine, 4.2 Stable of approx 5 weeks vintage. However neither the GENERIC kernel nore any I have compiled seem to detect the controller, does anybody have this working? -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 7:44:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF5237B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10065; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32EhwJ92928; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:43:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15048.36909.999859.871208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:43:57 -0400 (EDT) To: mikan@itti.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dec AXP 4000-710 In-Reply-To: <3AC7130F.5A282AD9@itti.nl> References: <3AC7130F.5A282AD9@itti.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mikan huppertz writes: > Hi, > > Can anyone tell me if it's possible to run ant BSD on a DEC AXP > 4000-710? > You might try NetBSD, but I don't think they support it either.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 10:19:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.159.1.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE4D37B71C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32824 for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:19:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:19:20 +0100 From: Geoff Buckingham To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATA on AXPpci33 Message-ID: <20010402181920.A32795@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <20010402150036.A32344@chuggalug.clues.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <20010402150036.A32344@chuggalug.clues.com>; from Geoff Buckingham on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:00:37PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:00:37PM +0100, Geoff Buckingham wrote: > > I have been trying to get an IDE DVD working on a AXPpci33 based machine, > 4.2 Stable of approx 5 weeks vintage. > > However neither the GENERIC kernel nore any I have compiled seem to > detect the controller, does anybody have this working? > I have now made a couple of discoveries: adding the following device to my kernel config: # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 means the controller is detected, however the DVD is only detected if I interupt the loaders autoboot and 'boot -v' strangely setting /boot/loader.rc to do a boot -v results in failure, as does interupting the auto boot and simply 'boot' ing. I am tempted to attribute this to the ata/alpha problem discussed elsewhere on this list, except I have also had problems detecting this DVD on an FreeBSD x86 machine. The following is the result of dmesg | grep ata after a boot -v ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0x0000 ata0: mask=03 status0=51 status1=00 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=51 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=14 b=eb ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0: mask=03 status0=51 status1=00 ata0: devices=04 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: interrupting at ISA irq 14 ata0-master: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=1 acd0: DVD-ROM drive at ata0 as master acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked When no CD is detected ... ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 ata0: interrupting at ISA irq 14 ata0-master: identify retries exceeded -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 11:35: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1A037B71D; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:34:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f32IYcG70901; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:34:11 -0800 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Doug Rabson Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix Cc: mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Michael Richards , Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 02-Apr-01 Doug Rabson wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > >> > My proposed solution is: >> > Modify the devsw struct. Here is the original: >> ... >> > This appears to carry info about the device. So I say that I should >> > be able to add a flag to it so it will not be opened multiple times. >> >> Don't do this. Try adding some caching to libalpha so that it doesn't >> open the prom device more than once. Since we only need one handle (SRM >> doesn't support more than one device), once we've got one, we can always >> reuse it. > > How about something like this (untested) patch. I'm not entirely happy > with it since it will never call prom_close and I remember having problems > with ncr hardware not probing properly if we didn't close it in the > loader. Possibly an 'open count' or similar would suffice. It would be better I think since prom_close() would get called eventually. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 11:51: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850DF37B71E; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id E9C64210B; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:50:54 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3AC8CA0E.00003D.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_UOH6SPG00M3NTT4D7TH0" To: jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix Cc: mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, michael@fastmail.ca, msmith@FreeBSD.org From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_UOH6SPG00M3NTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, after posting that proposed fix, I realised that it wouldn't work properly that way. I was unable to apply the posted patches to srmdisk.c I get: -------------------------- |Index: srmdisk.c |=================================================================== |RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c,v |retrieving revision 1.9 |diff -u -r1.9 srmdisk.c |- --- srmdisk.c 2000/03/15 01:53:34 1.9 |+++ srmdisk.c 2001/04/02 10:22:17 -------------------------- Patching file srmdisk.c using Plan A... patch: **** malformed patch at line 9: int bd_unit; /* SRM unit number */ At any rate, I will have some patches up as soon as I this change tested. Currently the machine I use to compile the code is down so I can't verify that the changes actually work. -Michael >> How about something like this (untested) patch. I'm not entirely >> happy with it since it will never call prom_close and I remember >> having problems with ncr hardware not probing properly if we >> didn't close it in the loader. Possibly an 'open count' or >> similar would suffice. > > It would be better I think since prom_close() would get called > eventually. > > -- > > John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_UOH6SPG00M3NTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 13:14:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE97137B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18794; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f32KEAl94038; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:14:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15048.56722.573307.129796@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:14:10 -0400 (EDT) To: "Alan L. Cox" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do we care about performance yet? In-Reply-To: <3AC63E6B.3D30B2B6@imimic.com> References: <3AC63E6B.3D30B2B6@imimic.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alan L. Cox writes: > > bzero 92338 6.5 2.6 > > bcopy_samealign_lp 71123 5.0 2.0 > > I built a kernel last year using Compaq's implementation of these > routines. A lot can be gained by using 21264-optimized > implementations. (Unfortunately, the code I was given by Compaq was > under NDA.) Alpha Processor (now API Networks) has, however, released > optimized implementations for Linux. There are patches on their web > site. Having talked to one hybrid business/technical person there, I > doubt that they would balk at dual-licensing these patches under a BSD > and GPL license. > > Alan Thanks for the pointer. I'm currently talking to him about it. Hopefully we'll be able to work something out. I plugged his ev6 memcpy into lmbench and I see roughly a 40% improvement for larger than cache copies on a UP1000. I see about 25% improvement on a DS10 & XP1000. It bascially gives you a free upgrade to the memory performance of the next-higher class of machine ;-) For things that are entirely in the bcache or l1 cache, the performance improvement is marginal, but still there. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 14:34:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B7737B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:34:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29582 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:34:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:34:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org reposted to list ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:34:17 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Apr 2 19:33:20 CEST 2001 ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2001-03-28/src/sys/compile/CICELY10 DEC AXPpci Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2 OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d real memory = 31481856 (30744K bytes) avail memory = 24649728 (24072K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc000067a000. lca0: <21066 Core Logic chipset> pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040400-0x810404ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 dc0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x81040000-0x810403ff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci0 ^^^^^^ dc0: couldn't map interrupt device_probe_and_attach: dc0 attach returned 6 de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x81040500-0x8104057f irq 185 at device 12.0 on pci0 ^^^^^^^ de0: couldn't map interrupt device_probe_and_attach: de0 attach returned 6 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold [...] Here are the lines with an older kernel: dc0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x81040000-0x810403ff irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 dc0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:cb:56:2e:2a miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x81040500-0x8104057f irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 9 de0: Cogent 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 00:00:92:90:7f:26 -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 14:51:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8574B37B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13781; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:51:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37640) with ESMTP id <01K1YETT2Y40RVZEDO@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:51:31 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32LpSE40900; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:51:28 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:51:27 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 In-reply-to: <20010402233417.A14039@cicely20.cicely.de>; from ticso@mail.cicely.de on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:34:17PM +0200 To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010403075127.F27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010402233417.A14039@cicely20.cicely.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This really belongs in -alpha, not -current. On 2001-Apr-02 23:34:17 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: >FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Apr 2 19:33:20 CEST 2001 > ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2001-03-28/src/sys/compile/CICELY10 >DEC AXPpci >Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz ... >sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040400-0x810404ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 You missed this one ^^^^^ >sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking >sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 0 >isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 >isa0: on isab0 >dc0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x81040000-0x810403ff irq 16 at device 11.0 on pci0 > ^^^^^^ >dc0: couldn't map interrupt I had exactly the same problem when I upgraded in early February. I kludged around it, but "Matthew N. Dodd" posted what appears to be a solution in freebsd-alpha as (this is substantially longer than Drew's fix). I haven't yet tried either Matt's or Drew's fixes. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 15:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80E637B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@mail.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20 [10.1.1.22]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f32MOVl37067; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:24:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f32MOqd14234; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:24:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:24:51 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 Message-ID: <20010403002451.C14039@cicely20.cicely.de> References: <20010402233417.A14039@cicely20.cicely.de> <20010403075127.F27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010403075127.F27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:51:27AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:51:27AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > This really belongs in -alpha, not -current. yes - I was updating an i386 at the same time and mixed... > On 2001-Apr-02 23:34:17 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > >FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Apr 2 19:33:20 CEST 2001 > > ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2001-03-28/src/sys/compile/CICELY10 > >DEC AXPpci > >Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz > ... > >sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040400-0x810404ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0 > You missed this one ^^^^^ Right that should be 11 - I did not noticed because it was working. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 17:24:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F3737B71A for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23572; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f330Nij94452; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:23:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15049.6160.526144.865577@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:23:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20010403001827.B14039@cicely20.cicely.de> References: <15048.61977.954793.801365@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010403001827.B14039@cicely20.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try this, it should shut up the weird slot number messages and may actually DTR in case its not a slot that needs to be warped. Drew Index: alpha/alpha/dec_axppci_33.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/dec_axppci_33.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 dec_axppci_33.c --- alpha/alpha/dec_axppci_33.c 2001/02/01 21:59:00 1.11 +++ alpha/alpha/dec_axppci_33.c 2001/04/03 00:09:22 @@ -233,8 +233,6 @@ break; default: - printf("dec_axppci_33_intr_map: weird slot number %d\n", - pci_get_slot(dev)); return(255); } Index: alpha/pci/lca_pci.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/pci/lca_pci.c,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 lca_pci.c --- alpha/pci/lca_pci.c 2000/12/08 22:11:23 1.9 +++ alpha/pci/lca_pci.c 2001/04/03 00:08:43 @@ -34,6 +34,8 @@ #include #include #include +#include +#include #include #include @@ -134,6 +136,14 @@ lca_pcib_read_config(device_t dev, u_int b, u_int s, u_int f, u_int reg, int width) { + if ((reg == PCIR_INTLINE) && (width == 1)) { + int pin, line; + + pin = lca_pcib_read_config(dev, b, s, f, PCIR_INTPIN, 1); + line = platform.pci_intr_route(NULL, dev, pin); + if ( line != 255) + return (line); + } switch (width) { case 1: CFGREAD(b, s, f, reg, BYTE, u_int8_t); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 17:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A256037B72B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23581; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f330Olj94455; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:24:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15049.6223.932600.433259@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:24:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 In-Reply-To: <20010403075127.F27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> References: <20010402233417.A14039@cicely20.cicely.de> <20010403075127.F27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Jeremy writes: > I had exactly the same problem when I upgraded in early February. I > kludged around it, but "Matthew N. Dodd" posted > what appears to be a solution in freebsd-alpha as > (this is > substantially longer than Drew's fix). I haven't yet tried either > Matt's or Drew's fixes. Hmm.. I missed Matt's patch. I have to admit I don't care for it at all. There are a lot of gratutious changes. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 2 20:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D1637B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20952; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Peter Jeremy , Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 In-Reply-To: <15049.6223.932600.433259@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Hmm.. I missed Matt's patch. I have to admit I don't care for it at > all. There are a lot of gratutious changes. I admit that some whitespace/newline changes snuck in along with stuff to disable to GDB port, but on the whole the method I used, while lengthy, is the correct solution. The whole of the Alpha chipset code needs to be rewritten IMHO, as we have a better system do deal with platform differences (newbus). -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 1:28: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net (tele-post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2093A37B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 14kMAR-000EJ6-0K; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:27:59 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f338Qi709120; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:44 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Peter Jeremy , Bernd Walter , Subject: Re: Funny Interrupt settings on AXPpci33 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Hmm.. I missed Matt's patch. I have to admit I don't care for it at > > all. There are a lot of gratutious changes. > > I admit that some whitespace/newline changes snuck in along with stuff to > disable to GDB port, but on the whole the method I used, while lengthy, is > the correct solution. The whole of the Alpha chipset code needs to be > rewritten IMHO, as we have a better system do deal with platform > differences (newbus). The platform code gets used too early to allow newbus to be used. It would be possible (and probably a good idea) to use kobj though. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 6:10:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EF537B71B; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14kQZc-000IlY-0A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:10:16 +0000 Received: from herring (herring [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f33D90710171; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:09:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:09:00 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Michael Richards Cc: , Matthew Jacob , , Subject: Re: Proposed Loader fix In-Reply-To: <3AC8CA0E.00003D.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1506290001-986303340=:10147" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1506290001-986303340=:10147 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Michael Richards wrote: > Yes, after posting that proposed fix, I realised that it wouldn't > work properly that way. I was unable to apply the posted patches to > srmdisk.c I get: Hmm. Must have been garbled somewhere. I've attached another patch here in the hope that attachments get less mailer mangling than plain text. This version of the patch does reference counting so that we can actually call prom_close(). 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Currently our alpha install floppies are ufs filesystems and it occurred to me that cd9660 might be a bit more space efficient. We certainly don't need to write back to the install floppy. I've not tried this so I don't even know if it will save anything. It does seem worth trying though. Any takers? -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 7:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E9A37B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f33EqGM24041; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:52:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Doug Rabson Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install floppies Message-ID: <20010403075216.A23993@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dfr@nlsystems.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:31:35PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:31:35PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > I was just thinking about the install floppies, particularly about the > severe space problems that we have there. I actually talked to JKH about this last week. I plan on creating a new 5-10MB install kernel image to use for the CDROM. I've been saying around BSDi for a while that it is kinda stupid to limiting the install kernel so much CDROM installs when we have so much space. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 10: 9:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AF737B71E; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 569272123; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:09:13 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACA03B9.000161.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_DN788RQJD89OO49D7TH0" To: dfr@nlsystems.com Subject: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. Cc: jhb@FreeBSD.org, mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, msmith@FreeBSD.org From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_DN788RQJD89OO49D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since both of our patches are basically identical. (The only differences I can see are in what we named the addition to the devdata structure and they both work, I'm content to ask that everyone test out the patch Doug already posted and consider that for inclusion into the tree if it all goes well. Here is a transcript of it working on my AS1200. Note that there are still a few debugging statements in to show me what is going on. The only difficulty is that the disk drive never turns off, even when it is expecting a new disk. I assume this is because the device is not being properly closed (by the closeall). Low on my list of priorities, but I'll take a look at it later. Initializing... SROM V3.0 on cpu0 SROM V3.0 on cpu1 XSROM V5.9 on cpu0 XSROM V5.9 on cpu1 BCache testing complete on cpu0 BCache testing complete on cpu1 mem_pair0 - 256 MB 20..20..21..21..23.. please wait 6 seconds for T24 to complete 24..24.. Memory testing complete on cpu1 Memory testing complete on cpu0 starting console on CPU 0 sizing memory 0 256 MB DIMM starting console on CPU 1 probing IOD1 hose 1 bus 0 slot 1 - NCR 53C810 probing IOD0 hose 0 bus 0 slot 1 - PCEB probing EISA Bridge, bus 1 bus 0 slot 3 - DE500-BA bus 0 slot 4 - S3 Trio64/Trio32 configuring I/O adapters... ncr0, hose 1, bus 0, slot 1 floppy0, hose 0, bus 1, slot 0 tulip0, hose 0, bus 0, slot 3 System temperature is 15 degrees C AlphaServer 1200 Console V5.9-5, 8-JAN-2001 10:05:24 CPU 0 booting (boot dva0.0.0.1000.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dva0.0.0.1000.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dva0.0.0.1000.0 bootstrap code read in Building FRU table base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1f2000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x4000200010115 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.0 (michael@marconi.eecs.ukans.edu, Tue Apr 3 11:44:33 CDT 2001) Memory: 262144 k prom_open called on (DVA 0 1000 0 0 0 8086 0002),26 /kernel data=0x328ad8+0x27868 - Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: | Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b760... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA-20010312 #2: Wed Mar 14 01:18:06 GMT 2001 rootk@quynh.nuxi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS AlphaServer 4100 AlphaServer 1200 5/533 4MB, 531MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117 real memory = 266330112 (260088K bytes) avail memory = 251486208 (245592K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000924000. Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc00009240a0. md0: Preloaded image 2949120 bytes at 0xfffffc0000650340 md1: Malloc disk mcpcia0: at mcbus0 gid 7 mid 5 mcpcia0: Horse Revision 3, Left Handed Saddle Revision 4, CAP Revision 2 pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x1ffff00-0x1ffffff mem 0x7ffff00-0x7ffffff irq 4 at device 1.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at IRQ 0x10 intA (vec 0xb40) mcpcia1: at mcbus0 gid 7 mid 4 mcpcia1: Horse Revision 3, Left Handed Saddle Revision 4, CAP Revision 2 Attaching Real Console pci16: on pcib1 isab0: at device 1.0 on pci16 isa0: on isab0 dc0: port 0x41ffff00-0x41ffff7f mem 0x43faff00-0x43faff7f irq 12 at device 3.0 on pci16 dc0: interrupting at IRQ 0x4 intA (vec 0x9c0) dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:f8:1b:07:fd miibus0: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus0 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci16: at 4.0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: failed to get data. psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 532812688 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 1001MB (2050860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, WARNING: clock gained 20 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console These are the predefined terminal types available to sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the closest match for your particular terminal. 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. -Michael > Hmm. Must have been garbled somewhere. I've attached another patch > here in the hope that attachments get less mailer mangling than > plain text. This version of the patch does reference counting so > that we can actually call prom_close(). Its still untested though > :-). > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_DN788RQJD89OO49D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 11:40:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB2E37B726; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:40:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00364; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:40:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Michael Richards Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, msmith@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. In-Reply-To: <3ACA03B9.000161.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey! This is fantastic! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 13:48:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D59937B719; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12946; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33Klnv98717; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:47:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.14069.338272.469014@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:47:49 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Michael Richards , dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. In-Reply-To: References: <3ACA03B9.000161.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > Hey! This is fantastic! > I concur. Let's get this comitted & MFC'ed so that big iron machines will boot 4.3. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 13:58: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BED037B71D; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 99C6B2123; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:57:53 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACA3951.0001A3.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_H8I8279NTEPOO49D7TH0" To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_H8I8279NTEPOO49D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Matthew Jacob writes: >> >> Hey! This is fantastic! > > I concur. Let's get this comitted & MFC'ed so that big iron > machines will boot 4.3. I would like to see people testing it on some other machines. Currently I do not have any hard drives in my machine, so I do not have the ability to test beyond seeing that it boots. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_H8I8279NTEPOO49D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 14:14: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E9F37B71A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13566; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33LDRC98794; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:13:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.15607.370404.396817@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:13:27 -0400 (EDT) To: "Michael Richards" Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. In-Reply-To: <3ACA3951.0001A3.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> References: <3ACA3951.0001A3.26518@frodo.searchcanada.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Richards writes: > > > > Matthew Jacob writes: > >> > >> Hey! This is fantastic! > > > > I concur. Let's get this comitted & MFC'ed so that big iron > > machines will boot 4.3. > > I would like to see people testing it on some other machines. > Currently I do not have any hard drives in my machine, so I do not > have the ability to test beyond seeing that it boots. I should have mentioned -- it boots just fine on my UP1000 from a scsi disk. With both a patched loader and a patched boot1 That's really the only machine that I have handy to test it on. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 14:15:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E9737B71A; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00830; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:15:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Michael Richards , dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. In-Reply-To: <15050.15607.370404.396817@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It would save some time if the patched loader binaries were available.. > > Michael Richards writes: > > > > > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > >> > > >> Hey! This is fantastic! > > > > > > I concur. Let's get this comitted & MFC'ed so that big iron > > > machines will boot 4.3. > > > > I would like to see people testing it on some other machines. > > Currently I do not have any hard drives in my machine, so I do not > > have the ability to test beyond seeing that it boots. > > I should have mentioned -- it boots just fine on my UP1000 from a scsi > disk. With both a patched loader and a patched boot1 > > That's really the only machine that I have handy to test it on. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 14:18:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9347337B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13662; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f33LHuC98830; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15050.15876.9084.873544@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:17:56 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. In-Reply-To: References: <15050.15607.370404.396817@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > It would save some time if the patched loader binaries were available.. Help yourself to: http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/patched_loader/ Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 14:28:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BD537B71E; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:28:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id AA3602100; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:28:32 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACA4080.000067.02286@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_KNJ8Y293LIFNTT4D7TH0" To: mjacob@feral.com Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_KNJ8Y293LIFNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It would save some time if the patched loader binaries were > available.. I have created a new kern.flp image. It is located at: http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp The boot loader I used is on that floppy. I think we will need to make an addition to the boot syntax: load /kernel echo \007\007 echo Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: read load -t mfs_root /mfsroot echo \007\007 autoboot 10 I believe we need to implement an unmount command and a mount command so the disk can be unmounted and then remounted after the keypress. Possibly a changedisk command if that would be more approprate. Otherwise the disk drive is never shut off because it's open count is still set to 1. Maybe opinions can be given on this before I sit down and do it. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_KNJ8Y293LIFNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 3 14:38:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FAC37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09336; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:38:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01K1ZSNHOUKWRX53PE@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:38:04 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33LcAJ54742; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:38:10 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:38:10 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Install floppies In-reply-to: ; from dfr@nlsystems.com on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:31:35PM +0100 To: Doug Rabson Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: Doug Rabson , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010404073810.P27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Apr-03 14:31:35 +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: >I was just thinking about the install floppies, particularly about the >severe space problems that we have there. PR gnu/26083 includes patches gcc to support the same -malign-XXX=N functionality as the i386. My kernel text segment shrank about 10% when I built it with 32-bit alignment (ISO 16-byte jump and 32-byte function alignment). The padding should compress fairly well, and I haven't tried building boot floppies with it so I don't know what the overall savings would be. > Currently our alpha install >floppies are ufs filesystems and it occurred to me that cd9660 might be a >bit more space efficient. Why not go the whole hog and build something that just uses a name, start block and length. This would reduce the FS overhead to 1 block. (I think the UFS overhead is ~24k, I'm not sure about cd9660). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 8: 1:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B24137B71E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA47326 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've finally got around to trying out my first FreeBSD install on an Alpha. We've got an AlphaServer 1200 that's been sitting here that I finally be able to put to work if I can get FreeBSD installed on it :-) I tried the 4.3-RC2 install floppies and ISO, but both fail. The CD install will eventually start spewing errors about the device no longer being valid. The floppy install gets to the 'FreeBSD/Alpha SRM disk boot' line, then the build line and the memory line and starts up the dwidle. The dwidle goes for awhile and then just stops. The floppy light continues to go on and then off pretty much for ever. After doing some searching of the lists it appears that I'm not the only with a 1200 that has this issue. I came across a message from Andrew Gallatin (gallatin@cs.duke.edu) where he mentions trying his copy of loader and boot1 at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/boot/. I've tried this and it's also failed in the same exact way. Being pretty new to Alphas I'd appreciate any hints/suggestions that would be appropiate for me to try. Other points of interest : - I updated the SRM with updates from the Compaq web site, so that should be ok - This box has been running only DEC Unix for the past 2+ years, it's never has NT on it. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 8: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE8437B719 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA47374 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: AlphaServer 1200 install woes, another tid bit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After letting it try and read the floppy install for awhile, it did spit out an error : cb_open: failed DVA 0 1000 0 0 0 8086 0002, dva0.0.0.1000.0 -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 12:12:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ele.etsmtl.ca (quark.ele.etsmtl.ca [142.137.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3201A37B71A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:12:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca) Received: from station1.ele.etsmtl.ca (station1 [142.137.19.101]) by quark.ele.etsmtl.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27140 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ele.etsmtl.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by station1.ele.etsmtl.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01681 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:12:21 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc Reply-To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Vinum status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There has been a nice debate on dev_t structure related to vinum. I need vinum working. I'd like to have a status on it please. Is it working in the -stable branch (4.3 BETA RC2 as of today) or is it still bugged? Normand Leclerc lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 12:34:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B9B37B731 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id D7CFF20AE; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:33:55 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACB7723.0000B7.40916@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_J09AUND8WZZNTT4D7TH0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Cc: joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_J09AUND8WZZNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, this is the problem I believe has just been fixed. There is an alternate kern.flp image at: http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp I have verified this as far as I can on my AS1200 without any disks. I believe it should work for you. Please let me know if you have any trouble. -Michael > After letting it try and read the floppy install for awhile, it > did spit out an error : > > cb_open: failed DVA 0 1000 0 0 0 8086 0002, dva0.0.0.1000.0 > > - -Joseph _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_J09AUND8WZZNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 16: 1:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90A937B71E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53215; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:01:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes In-Reply-To: <3ACB7723.0000B7.40916@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Michael Richards wrote: > Yes, this is the problem I believe has just been fixed. There is an > alternate kern.flp image at: > http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp This appears to have worked. The install started up and is cranking away right now. Any chance of getting these changes into the source tree soon so that they can get into 4.x sometime. It would be great if these could be tested enough to get in before 4.3-Release. My 1200 won't be going into production use for awhile yet, I'd be happy to try out any additional changes. > I have verified this as far as I can on my AS1200 without any disks. > I believe it should work for you. Please let me know if you have any > trouble. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 16:38: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2787037B43C for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id BC8F3208B; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:37:38 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACBB042.000029.92404@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_QAKAKT6Z5BZNTT4D7TH0" To: joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_QAKAKT6Z5BZNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug's patches have been posted to the list. Since Joseph has verified that they do work on the AS1200 and Doug has verified that the loader still works on the non-affected machines, is anyone going to commit or start the process to have these committed? The patches do not affect the intel loader, just alpha, so the risk is minimal. If nobody thinks that the changes I've suggested (adding an unmount/remount/changedisk command) are wrong, then I will have some large patches that should wait until after 4.3. -Michael >> Yes, this is the problem I believe has just been fixed. There is >> an alternate kern.flp image at: >> http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp > > This appears to have worked. The install started up and is > cranking away right now. Any chance of getting these changes into > the source tree soon so that they can get into 4.x sometime. It > would be great if these could be tested enough to get in before > 4.3-Release. > > My 1200 won't be going into production use for awhile yet, > I'd be happy to try out any additional changes. > >> I have verified this as far as I can on my AS1200 without any >> disks. I believe it should work for you. Please let me know if >> you have any trouble. > > -Joseph _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_QAKAKT6Z5BZNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 17:27: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D9E37B43E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f350R3517303 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:27:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07F6D1A7C1; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:27:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:27:01 -0500 From: Steve Price To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: -stable kernel build failures Message-ID: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This from sources CVSup'd about an hour ago. Anyone else seeing this? beta# make cc -c -O0 -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 ../../kern/kern_synch.c cc -c -O0 -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 setdef0.c cc -c -O0 -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 setdef1.c sh ../../conf/newvers.sh BETA cc -c -O0 -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 vers.c linking kernel kern_synch.o: In function `tsleep': kern_synch.c(.text+0xbc0): undefined reference to `__cursig' kern_synch.c(.text+0xbc4): undefined reference to `__cursig' kern_synch.c(.text+0xd9c): undefined reference to `__cursig' kern_synch.c(.text+0xda0): undefined reference to `__cursig' kern_synch.o: In function `await': kern_synch.c(.text+0x10f8): undefined reference to `__cursig' kern_synch.o(.text+0x10fc):kern_synch.c: more undefined references to `__cursig' follow *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/beta. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 4 18:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F26937B440; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kyIs-000Gn4-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:11:14 +0000 To: Andrew Gallatin , mjacob@feral.com, Michael Richards , dfr@nlsystems.com, jhb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: Re: Boot Loader Problem Fixed and tested. Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:11:14 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.73 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Excellent job!! I'm really curious what the machines at work will think of this patch. Especially the TurboLaser... Cannot test until after 4.3 is released :-( as I am currently in Hong Kong. regds Wilko > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > Hey! This is fantastic! > > > > I concur. Let's get this comitted & MFC'ed so that big iron > machines will boot 4.3. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 2:41:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9693737B43F for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14l6Gw-0000DT-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:41:46 +0000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: loader fixes going into 4.3R ? Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:41:46 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.73 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Is it possible to get the loader fixes tested in time for MFC to go out with 4.3R ? It would really be a great benefit to mankind if this could be made to happen I think. Main test vehicles would be AS4[01]00 and AS1200. I'm afraid I won't be back in time to test AS8400 before the release, but given the limited installed base of FreeBSD on Tlaser I'm not too worried ;-)) Comments? Wilko BTW: if this happens, will someone please update the RELNOTES etc where appropriate? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 6:57:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E864537B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from firsttim@msu.edu) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2F3RQDY8>; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:57:31 -0400 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F785@ais.msu.edu> From: "First, Tim" To: "'freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: subscribe Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:57:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 7: 2:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C5D37B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22548; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35E1rQ02659; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:01:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Steve Price Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures In-Reply-To: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Price writes: > This from sources CVSup'd about an hour ago. Anyone else seeing > this? Nope. I just did a test compile from sources grabbed at 4am EDT this morning. <...> > kern_synch.o(.text+0x10fc):kern_synch.c: more undefined references to `__cursig' follow > *** Error code 1 Are you sure your source tree is intact and is all -stable? __cursig is an inline in -stable. Check sys/sys/signalvar.h for intactness. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 7:11:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92AE37B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f35EBe521576; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:11:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EC01C1A7C1; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:11:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:11:34 -0500 From: Steve Price To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures Message-ID: <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:01:53AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:01:53AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >> This from sources CVSup'd about an hour ago. Anyone else seeing >> this? > > Nope. I just did a test compile from sources grabbed at 4am EDT this morning. I didn't see it on my Alpha here at the house either. But I get the same thing on 3 of the 5 (didn't try the other two) Alphas in the package building cluster all with the same result. >> kern_synch.o(.text+0x10fc):kern_synch.c: more undefined references to `__cursig' follow >> *** Error code 1 > > Are you sure your source tree is intact and is all -stable? > __cursig is an inline in -stable. Check sys/sys/signalvar.h for > intactness. Yes, I checked there and it is in that file but for some reason it isn't being picked up. Just in case I'll remove the file and run CVSup again. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 7:16:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1636B37B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22822; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35EFs802693; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.32281.888599.242073@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:15:53 -0400 (EDT) To: Steve Price Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures In-Reply-To: <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Price writes: > > Yes, I checked there and it is in that file but for some reason it > isn't being picked up. Just in case I'll remove the file and run > CVSup again. Maybe remove the entire source tree? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 7:23:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E54E37B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f35ENV521400; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:23:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B73B81A7C8; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:23:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:23:30 -0500 From: Steve Price To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures Message-ID: <20010405092330.P56091@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.32281.888599.242073@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15052.32281.888599.242073@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:15:53AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:15:53AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > Yes, I checked there and it is in that file but for some reason it > > isn't being picked up. Just in case I'll remove the file and run > > CVSup again. > > Maybe remove the entire source tree? Eek! That might just help. After a CVSup moments ago... root@beta(/usr/src/sys/sys)# rm signalvar.h root@beta(/usr/src/sys/sys)# cvs -q update -Pd -rRELENG_4 cvs update: warning: signalvar.h is not (any longer) pertinent That ain't good. I just noticed I was using the '-s' flag to CVSup. I'm going back to square one and giving it another whirl. Thanks for the help. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 7:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B2F37B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA57497; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: loader fixes going into 4.3R ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > All, > > Is it possible to get the loader fixes tested in time for MFC to > go out with 4.3R ? It would really be a great benefit to mankind if > this could be made to happen I think. I'd love to see this get into 4.3R if possible. > Main test vehicles would be AS4[01]00 and AS1200. I'm afraid I won't > be back in time to test AS8400 before the release, but given the limited > installed base of FreeBSD on Tlaser I'm not too worried ;-)) As I mentioned in a earlier message, I've got an AS1200 that won't install with out this. It won't be doing anything useful yet, so I'd be happy to do test installs on it. > Comments? > > Wilko > > BTW: if this happens, will someone please update the RELNOTES etc > where > appropriate? -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 8: 9:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6016437B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08323; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:09:27 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:09:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes In-Reply-To: <3ACB7723.0000B7.40916@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did this change get to doug to get integrated? > Yes, this is the problem I believe has just been fixed. There is an > alternate kern.flp image at: > http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp > > I have verified this as far as I can on my AS1200 without any disks. > I believe it should work for you. Please let me know if you have any > trouble. > > -Michael > > > After letting it try and read the floppy install for awhile, > it > > did spit out an error : > > > > cb_open: failed DVA 0 1000 0 0 0 8086 0002, dva0.0.0.1000.0 > > > > - -Joseph > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 8:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9427537B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24192; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35FChH02810; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:12:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.35690.961392.898283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:12:42 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes In-Reply-To: References: <3ACB7723.0000B7.40916@frodo.searchcanada.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > Did this change get to doug to get integrated? It was Doug's patch in the first place; he comitted to -current this morning. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 8:30: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA5B37B507 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08433; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:30:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:29:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes In-Reply-To: <15052.35690.961392.898283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I saw. I was just trying to follow up. I'll be at NASA today and will try a couple of systems with this stuff if I can. > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > Did this change get to doug to get integrated? > > It was Doug's patch in the first place; he comitted to -current this > morning. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 11:27: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B192B37B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35IQj326434; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:26:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loader fixes going into 4.3R ? Message-ID: <20010405112641.A26364@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:41:46AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:41:46AM +0000, wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > Is it possible to get the loader fixes tested in time for MFC to > go out with 4.3R ? Isn't it a little early to be calling for it? It hasn't sat in -current for anytime, and very few people have said they've tested it. In fact I was a little surprised to see it commited to -current w/o a few more people piping up saying it worked for them across all the Alpha's we care about running on. > Main test vehicles would be AS4[01]00 and AS1200. Uh, why? This is a change that could maybe for some fluke break the loader on say the AS200. IMHO, it needs to be tested on every Alpha model we care about. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 11:35:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDFA37B43C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:35:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f35IZi517502; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:35:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EF40C1A7C1; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:35:42 -0500 From: Steve Price To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures Message-ID: <20010405133542.X56091@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.32281.888599.242073@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405092330.P56091@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405092330.P56091@bsd.havk.org>; from steve@havk.org on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:23:30AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well it turns out that COPTFLAGS='-O0 -pipe' in /etc/make.conf was the culprit. Aparently __inline functions get optimized away or some such. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 12:28:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B719F37B449 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from firsttim@msu.edu) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2F3RQ1SF>; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:28:46 -0400 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F78F@ais.msu.edu> From: "First, Tim" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:28:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been attempting to install 4.3RC2 on an AlphaServer 2100A with no luck. I previously tried with 4.2 and learned after reading that there was no support for the Lynx on 4.2. I was hoping that we would be able to get this up on 4.3RC2, but have had no luck so far. Any ideas, suggestions, or help would be much appreciated. Below is a complete log of the boot with a show, show config and the boot of the 4.3RC2 cd. Thanks for your help, -tim base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 4fff0000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code VMS PALcode V1.20-3, OSF PALcode V1.22-1 starting console on CPU 0 Testing Memory bank 0 Testing Memory bank 1 Testing Memory bank 2 Testing Memory bank 3 Configuring Memory Modules probing hose 0, PCI probing PCI-to-EISA bridge, bus 1 probing PCI-to-PCI bridge, bus 2 bus 2, slot 1 -- pka -- NCR 53C810 bus 2, slot 6 -- dra -- Mylex DAC960 bus 2, slot 7 -- ewa -- DECchip 21140-AA bus 0, slot 6 -- drb -- Mylex DAC960 bus 0, slot 7 -- ewb -- DECchip 21140-AA bus 0, slot 9 -- vga -- S3 Trio64/Trio32 starting console on CPU 1 starting console on CPU 2 os_type: UNIX - console CIPCA driver not started Memory Testing and Configuration Status Module Size Base Addr Intlv Mode Intlv Unit Status ------ ----- --------- ---------- ---------- ------ 0 512MB 00000000 2-Way 0 Passed 1 512MB 00000000 2-Way 1 Passed 2 128MB 40000000 2-Way 0 Passed 3 128MB 40000000 2-Way 1 Passed Total Bad Pages 0 Testing the System Testing the Disks (read only) Testing the Network AlphaServer 2100A Console V5.3-14, built on Oct 16 1998 at 15:28:19 P00>>>sho auto_action HALT boot_dev boot_file boot_osflags 0 boot_reset ON bootdef_dev booted_dev booted_file booted_osflags bus_probe_algorithm new char_set 0 com1_baud 9600 com1_flow SOFTWARE com1_modem OFF com2_baud 9600 com2_flow SOFTWARE com2_modem OFF console serial controlp ON cpu_enabled ff d_bell off d_cleanup on d_complete off d_eop off d_group field d_harderr halt d_loghard on d_logsoft off d_omit d_oper on d_passes 1 d_quick off d_report full d_runtime 0 d_softerr halt d_startup off d_status off d_trace off d_verbose 0 dump_dev enable_audit ON ewa0_arp_tries 3 ewa0_bootp_file ewa0_bootp_server ewa0_bootp_tries 3 ewa0_def_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_def_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_def_inetfile ewa0_def_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_def_subnetmask 0.0.0.0 ewa0_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_inet_init bootp ewa0_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_inetfile ewa0_loop_count 2 ewa0_loop_inc d0 ewa0_loop_patt ffffffff ewa0_loop_size 100 ewa0_lp_msg_node 8 ewa0_mode AUI ewa0_protocols MOP ewa0_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewa0_tftp_tries 3 ewb0_arp_tries 3 ewb0_bootp_file ewb0_bootp_server ewb0_bootp_tries 3 ewb0_def_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_def_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_def_inetfile ewb0_def_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_def_subnetmask 0.0.0.0 ewb0_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_inet_init bootp ewb0_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_inetfile ewb0_loop_count 2 ewb0_loop_inc d0 ewb0_loop_patt ffffffff ewb0_loop_size 100 ewb0_lp_msg_node 8 ewb0_mode Fast ewb0_protocols MOP ewb0_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 ewb0_tftp_tries 3 exdep_data 0 exdep_location 0 exdep_size 0 exdep_space pmem exdep_type 3 external_mb ON full_powerup_diags ON heap_expand NONE i g j u kbd_hardware_type PCXAL language 36 language_name English (American) license MU ocp_text ocp_text_default Model 4/200 os_type UNIX pal VMS PALcode V1.20-3, OSF PALcode V1.22-1 pci_arb Partial-Rotating pci_parity ON pka0_disconnect 1 pka0_fast 1 pka0_host_id 7 rcm_answer rcm_dialout rcm_init screen_mode ON scsi_poll ON scsi_reset ON scsnode scssystemid 65534 scssystemidh 0 srm2dev sys_serial_num tga_sync_green 8 tt_allow_login 1 tty_dev 0 version V5.3-14 Oct 16 1998 15:28:19 P00>>>show conf Digital Equipment Corporation AlphaServer 2100A 5/250 SRM Console V5.3-14 VMS PALcode V1.20-3, OSF PALcode V1.22-1 Component Status Module ID CPU 0 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 CPU 1 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 CPU 2 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 Memory 0 P B2022-FA 512 MB Memory 1 P B2022-FA 512 MB Memory 2 P B2021-FA 128 MB Memory 3 P B2022-DA 128 MB I/O 24283-01 dva0.0.0.1000.0 RX26/RX23 Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 0, PCI 2 Intel 82375 Bridge to Bus 1, EISA 3 DECchip 21050-AA Bridge to Bus 2, PCI 6 Mylex DAC960 drb.0.0.6.0 drb0.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 drb1.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 drb2.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 7 DECchip 21140-AA ewb0.0.0.7.0 00-00-F8-01-84-89 9 S3 Trio64/Trio32 Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 1, EISA Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 2, PCI 1 NCR 53C810 pka0.7.0.2001.0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dka0.0.0.2001.0 RZ28D dka100.1.0.2001.0 RZ28D dka500.5.0.2001.0 RRD45 mka600.6.0.2001.0 TLZ07 6 Mylex DAC960 dra.0.0.2006.0 dra0.0.0.2006.0 6 Member RAID 5 dra1.0.0.2006.0 6 Member RAID 5 7 DECchip 21140-AA ewa0.0.0.2007.0 00-00-F8-01-81-09 P00>>>boot dka500 (boot dka500.5.0.2001.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dka500.5.0.2001.0 is a valid boot block reading 356 blocks from dka500.5.0.2001.0 bootstrap code read in base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 4fff0000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x4000300010114 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 0.1 (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Mon Mar 20 21:08:56 GMT 2000) Memory: 1310720 k |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-> echo \007\007  > autoboot 10 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... Booting [kernel] in 8 seconds... Booting [kernel] in 7 seconds... Booting [kernel] in 6 seconds... Booting [kernel]... \|/- (EDITED TO REMOVE DUPLICATION) /kernel data=0x5f9198+0x27868 \|/- (EDITED TO REMOVE DUPLICATION) Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b740... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC2 #1: Sat Mar 31 00:13:44 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS DEC AlphaServer 2100A AlphaServer 2100A 5/250, 250MHz 8192 byte page size, 3 processors. CPU: EV5 (21164) major=5 minor=5 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 real memory = 1340006400 (1308600K bytes) avail memory = 1296769024 (1266376K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000924000. md1: Malloc disk t20: using interrupt type 1 on pci bus 0 halted CPU 0 halt code = 7 machine check while in PAL mode PC = 1608c P00>>> ---- Timothy D. First, MCSE, CNA firsttim@msu.edu Information Technologist II (517) 353-4420 x335 Administrative Information Services Fax: (517) 355-5176 Michigan State University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 13:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A8A37B53A for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:47:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02736; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f35Kkut04077; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:46:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15052.55744.66426.364292@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:46:56 -0400 (EDT) To: "First, Tim" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) In-Reply-To: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F78F@ais.msu.edu> References: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F78F@ais.msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, Tim writes: > t20: using interrupt type 1 on pci bus 0 > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 7 > machine check while in PAL mode > PC = 1608c > P00>>> This sounds bad. A machine check in pal mode is sometimes indicative of bad hardware. Are you running any OS on this box right now? As a stab in the dark, I've tried disabling a probe for the second PCI hose, which we have no way of dealing with even if we do find it. (I've also heard that even though they're documented, they don't exist in the field). I've left a kernel for you to try at: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/kern.flp This time, please boot verbosely (boot -v) If this fails to work, try pulling the 2 128MB memory modules. Please let me know if either work (the new kernel or the memory pull). Good luck, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 14:21:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from Beta.Midwest.Com (fc-pm5-24.enetis.net [208.141.217.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE46337B59E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbump@enetis.net) Received: from enetis.net (IDENT:bbump@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Beta.Midwest.Com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f35LMsR12117; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:22:55 -0600 Message-ID: <3ACCE22D.E256EA9D@enetis.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:22:53 -0600 From: Brett Bump X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: loader fixes going into 4.3R ? References: <20010405112641.A26364@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:41:46AM +0000, wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > > Is it possible to get the loader fixes tested in time for MFC to > > go out with 4.3R ? > > Isn't it a little early to be calling for it? It hasn't sat in -current > for anytime, and very few people have said they've tested it. In fact I > was a little surprised to see it commited to -current w/o a few more > people piping up saying it worked for them across all the Alpha's we care > about running on. > > > Main test vehicles would be AS4[01]00 and AS1200. > > Uh, why? This is a change that could maybe for some fluke break the > loader on say the AS200. IMHO, it needs to be tested on every Alpha > model we care about. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message I tried both the 3/30 dist floppies and the loader patched kern.flp from beerfountain on my AS200s and DecServer 3300s. Both seemed to boot fine except the kern.flp with the patched loader doesn't shut down the floppy when going between kern and mfsroot. This was the case on both the AS200 and 3300. Both do boot however. I didn't get any further than the install screen since I no longer have access to a fast pipe to download the iso. Still get the "Missing address Mark" errors on the 3300s but those have always been there. My 2 cents on loader testing FWIW. I will miss the red install background. :( Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 14:45:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B17237B506 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35Ljc230133; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:45:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Steve Price Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failures Message-ID: <20010405144532.D28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010404192701.A56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.31441.596152.333957@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405091134.M56091@bsd.havk.org> <15052.32281.888599.242073@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010405092330.P56091@bsd.havk.org> <20010405133542.X56091@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010405133542.X56091@bsd.havk.org>; from steve@havk.org on Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:35:42PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:35:42PM -0500, Steve Price wrote: > Well it turns out that COPTFLAGS='-O0 -pipe' in /etc/make.conf > was the culprit. Aparently __inline functions get optimized > away or some such. Yes. Don't use -O0. Only use -O on the alpha (except those rare cases where -O bombs and then use -O0 only on that particualar source file. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 14:47:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4726637B422; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:47:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35LlVC30165; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:47:26 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: grog@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca>; from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:12:21PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:12:21PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > There has been a nice debate on dev_t structure related to vinum. I > need vinum working. I'd like to have a status on it please. Is it > working in the -stable branch (4.3 BETA RC2 as of today) or is it still > bugged? Are you planning on doing anything about this problem? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 14:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A47837B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35Lo7A30183; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:50:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:50:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Message-ID: <20010405145006.F28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3ACBB042.000029.92404@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACBB042.000029.92404@frodo.searchcanada.ca>; from michael@fastmail.ca on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:37:38PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:37:38PM -0400, Michael Richards wrote: > Doug's patches have been posted to the list. Since Joseph has > verified that they do work on the AS1200 and Doug has verified that > the loader still works on the non-affected machines, I must be farther behind in my email than I thought. I don't recall Doug ever saying he tested his patch on *any* machine. It was the testing by another that the commit was based on. Am I wrong on the amount of testing this has had? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 14:57: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A330037B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f35Luvh30341; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:56:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Jeremy Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install floppies Message-ID: <20010405145656.G28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010404073810.P27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404073810.P27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:38:10AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:38:10AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2001-Apr-03 14:31:35 +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > >I was just thinking about the install floppies, particularly about the > >severe space problems that we have there. > > PR gnu/26083 includes patches gcc to support the same -malign-XXX=N > functionality as the i386. My kernel text segment shrank about 10% > when I built it with 32-bit alignment (ISO 16-byte jump and 32-byte > function alignment). The place to get this commited is in the FSF/GNU GCC repository. There is still time for 3.0-R *IF* you hurry. Is there some reason you are not working with the GCC guys on this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 15:22:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750D437B507; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 45B0820DF; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3ACCF018.0000CB.34459@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_4HBC2JN9R94NTT4D7TH0" To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_4HBC2JN9R94NTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:37:38PM -0400, Michael Richards wrote: >> Doug's patches have been posted to the list. Since Joseph has >> verified that they do work on the AS1200 and Doug has verified >> that the loader still works on the non-affected machines, > > I must be farther behind in my email than I thought. I don't > recall Doug ever saying he tested his patch on *any* machine. It > was the testing by another that the commit was based on. Am I > wrong on the amount of testing this has had? > I'm sorry, perhaps Doug said that within a personal email to me. As for the amount of testing, I believe that it has been tested and found to work on as AS1200 and I can't remember the version Doug said he tested it on... Doug??? As for the amount of testing, I would feel a little more comfortable if there were more testing done with it, but the installed Alpha group seems to be so small. There were not significant changes to the loader to implement this fix. I've proposed some much larger changes to totally squash this problem rather than dance around it but nobody has commented on what I've said. Basically, since you've got to keep calling devopen in case the user changes the disk, I wanted to implement a mount/unmount or changedisk type command in the loader syntax so the loader knows when it should expect to unmount and remount the device and is not left guessing when this should happen. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_4HBC2JN9R94NTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 15:25:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5C937B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:25:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from firsttim@msu.edu) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2F3RQFAL>; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:25:08 -0400 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F794@ais.msu.edu> From: "First, Tim" To: 'Andrew Gallatin' Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:25:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No luck so far. The machine had been up for about 4 years with no major problems as a data warehouse running NT 4.0 & SQL Server 6.5. About 2 months ago we moved that functionality off to another box. We have a load of nt on it currently and it boots and stays up with no problems. I tried all of your suggestions and a few others: 1. Booting with new kernel you provided 2. Booting with only 256MB Ram 3. Booting with only 1024MB Ram 4. Booting with only 1 CPU in the system All produced the same results. Below are the results of one of the attempts using the boot -v option. Thanks again for your help, -tim VMS PALcode V1.20-3, OSF PALcode V1.22-1 starting console on CPU 0 Testing Memory bank 0 Testing Memory bank 1 Testing Memory bank 2 Testing Memory bank 3 Configuring Memory Modules probing hose 0, PCI probing PCI-to-EISA bridge, bus 1 probing PCI-to-PCI bridge, bus 2 bus 2, slot 1 -- pka -- NCR 53C810 bus 2, slot 6 -- dra -- Mylex DAC960 bus 2, slot 7 -- ewa -- DECchip 21140-AA bus 0, slot 6 -- drb -- Mylex DAC960 bus 0, slot 7 -- ewb -- DECchip 21140-AA bus 0, slot 9 -- vga -- S3 Trio64/Trio32 starting console on CPU 1 starting console on CPU 2 os_type: UNIX - console CIPCA driver not started Memory Testing and Configuration Status Module Size Base Addr Intlv Mode Intlv Unit Status ------ ----- --------- ---------- ---------- ------ 0 512MB 00000000 2-Way 0 Passed 1 512MB 00000000 2-Way 1 Passed Total Bad Pages 0 Testing the System waiting for drb.0.0.6.0 to poll... Testing the Disks (read only) Testing the Network AlphaServer 2100A Console V5.3-14, built on Oct 16 1998 at 15:28:19 P00>>>sh conf Digital Equipment Corporation AlphaServer 2100A 5/250 SRM Console V5.3-14 VMS PALcode V1.20-3, OSF PALcode V1.22-1 Component Status Module ID CPU 0 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 CPU 1 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 CPU 2 P B2040-AB DECchip (tm) 21164-5 Memory 0 P B2022-FA 512 MB Memory 1 P B2022-FA 512 MB I/O 24283-01 dva0.0.0.1000.0 RX26/RX23 Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 0, PCI 2 Intel 82375 Bridge to Bus 1, EISA 3 DECchip 21050-AA Bridge to Bus 2, PCI 6 Mylex DAC960 drb.0.0.6.0 drb0.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 drb1.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 drb2.0.0.6.0 6 Member RAID 5 7 DECchip 21140-AA ewb0.0.0.7.0 00-00-F8-01-84-89 9 S3 Trio64/Trio32 Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 1, EISA Slot Option Hose 0, Bus 2, PCI 1 NCR 53C810 pka0.7.0.2001.0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dka0.0.0.2001.0 RZ28D dka100.1.0.2001.0 RZ28D dka500.5.0.2001.0 RRD45 mka600.6.0.2001.0 TLZ07 6 Mylex DAC960 dra.0.0.2006.0 dra0.0.0.2006.0 6 Member RAID 5 dra1.0.0.2006.0 6 Member RAID 5 7 DECchip 21140-AA ewa0.0.0.2007.0 00-00-F8-01-81-09 P00>>>boot dka500 (boot dka500.5.0.2001.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dka500.5.0.2001.0 is a valid boot block reading 356 blocks from dka500.5.0.2001.0 bootstrap code read in base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2c800 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 3fff0000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x4000300010114 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 0.1 (jkh@beast.freebsd.org, Mon Mar 20 21:08:56 GMT 2000) Memory: 1048576 k |/-\ (REPETITION DELETED) > echo \007\007  > autoboot 10 Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... Booting [kernel] in 8 seconds... Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok boot -v kernel |/-\ (REPETITION DELETED) kernel data=0x5f9198+0x27868 |/-\ (REPETITION DELETED) Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b740... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC2 #1: Sat Mar 31 00:13:44 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS DEC AlphaServer 2100A AlphaServer 2100A 5/250, 250MHz 8192 byte page size, 3 processors. CPU: EV5 (21164) major=5 minor=5 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 real memory = 1071570944 (1046456K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00940000 - 0x3ffe5fff, 1063936000 bytes (129875 pages) avail memory = 1036623872 (1012328K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000924000. Creating DISK md0 md1: Malloc disk Creating DISK md1 t20: using interrupt type 1 on pci bus 0 halted CPU 0 halt code = 7 machine check while in PAL mode PC = 1608c P00>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- Output from boot -v with new kernel from Drew. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ok boot -v kernel |/-\|/Entering kernel at 0xfffffc00003282c0... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RC #5: Thu Apr 5 16:35:07 EDT 2001 gallatin@bacon.cs.duke.edu:/.amd_mnt/muffin/export/ari_scratch2/gallatin/sta ble/sys/compile/BOOTMFS DEC AlphaServer 2100A AlphaServer 2100A 5/250, 250MHz 8192 byte page size, 3 processors. CPU: EV5 (21164) major=5 minor=5 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000100020116 real memory = 1340006400 (1308600K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0093c000 - 0x4ffe5fff, 1332387840 bytes (162645 pages) avail memory = 1296785408 (1266392K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000920000. Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc00009200d8. md0: Preloaded image 2949120 bytes at 0xfffffc000064c2b8 Creating DISK md0 md1: Malloc disk Creating DISK md1 t20: using interrupt type 1 on pci bus 0 halted CPU 0 halt code = 7 machine check while in PAL mode PC = 16088 P00>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Timothy D. First, MCSE, CNA firsttim@msu.edu Information Technologist II (517) 353-4420 x335 Administrative Information Services Fax: (517) 355-5176 Michigan State University -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:47 PM To: First, Tim Cc: 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' Subject: Re: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) First, Tim writes: > t20: using interrupt type 1 on pci bus 0 > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 7 > machine check while in PAL mode > PC = 1608c > P00>>> This sounds bad. A machine check in pal mode is sometimes indicative of bad hardware. Are you running any OS on this box right now? As a stab in the dark, I've tried disabling a probe for the second PCI hose, which we have no way of dealing with even if we do find it. (I've also heard that even though they're documented, they don't exist in the field). I've left a kernel for you to try at: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/kern.flp This time, please boot verbosely (boot -v) If this fails to work, try pulling the 2 128MB memory modules. Please let me know if either work (the new kernel or the memory pull). Good luck, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 17: 7:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378337B443 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3606KE32371; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:05:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Jeremy Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install floppies Message-ID: <20010405170517.E31705@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010404073810.P27632@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20010405145656.G28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010406095849.D66243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010406095849.D66243@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:58:49AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:58:49AM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > >The place to get this commited is in the FSF/GNU GCC repository. > > I agree. I was under the impression that you were in a position to do > this and would do so if the patches were acceptable (hence my mail to > you when I submitted the PR). I cannot turn in patches for you (or others) to the FSF due to the required assignment of code rights to the FSF. These changes do not belong to me, so I cannot legally give away the copyright to them. > > Is there some reason you are not > >working with the GCC guys on this? > > I thought that I was. Obviously I've misunderstood your position here. > Should I just send the patches to gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Yes. If the patches are deemed "significant", you will have to sign some FSF paperwork before they can be accepted. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 18:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC20337B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA07685; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f361Ndj05039; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:23:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.6811.747378.836016@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:23:39 -0400 (EDT) To: "First, Tim" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) In-Reply-To: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F794@ais.msu.edu> References: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F794@ais.msu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, Tim writes: > No luck so far. The machine had been up for about 4 years with no major > problems as a data warehouse running NT 4.0 & SQL Server 6.5. About 2 > months ago we moved that functionality off to another box. We have a load > of nt on it currently and it boots and stays up with no problems. > > I tried all of your suggestions and a few others: > > 1. Booting with new kernel you provided I think it might be something about the ev5; I ran across something saying that VMS has machine check problems when booting on an EV5 2x00 & a (binary) patch for it. Your machine's problem sounds similar. I have another "stab in the dark" floppy for you to try, but its just a guess (going to ipl7 when probing the pci bus like linux does) The floppy is at the same location: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/kern.flp If that fails too, you might try upgrading your SRM console to the latest firmware available. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 19:41:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA7037B43C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14lMBn-0003tU-00; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 02:41:31 +0000 To: obrien@freebsd.org, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: Re: loader fixes going into 4.3R ? Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:41:31 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.74 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 09:41:46AM +0000, wkb@freebie.demon.nl wrote: > > Is it possible to get the loader fixes tested in time for MFC to > > go out with 4.3R ? > > Isn't it a little early to be calling for it? It hasn't sat in -current > for anytime, and very few people have said they've tested it. In fact I > was a little surprised to see it commited to -current w/o a few more > people piping up saying it worked for them across all the Alpha's we care > about running on. Of course it needs testing. I would not want to suggest otherwise :) > > > Main test vehicles would be AS4[01]00 and AS1200. > > Uh, why? This is a change that could maybe for some fluke break the > loader on say the AS200. IMHO, it needs to be tested on every Alpha > model we care about. Yes, but I think making sure first that it solves the problem on the obnoxious systems makes sense. Subsequently a regression test must be done on the other alpha models. Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 19:59:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A77D37B422 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14lMSy-0000g9-00; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 02:59:16 +0000 To: Andrew Gallatin , "First, Tim" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:59:16 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.74 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just for the record: the 2100A I used to test Drew's AS2100A support on is an EV4/200 dual CPU. It has no problems building world etc. So the guess about the EV5 might be a good one. I would upgrade to the latest SRM anyway, legacy NT boxes tend to have ancient SRMs installed.. Any chance to see if you can get Tru64 loaded onto it just to see what that OS thinks? Just my EUR 0.02 Wilko > First, Tim writes: > > No luck so far. The machine had been up for about 4 years with no major > > problems as a data warehouse running NT 4.0 & SQL Server 6.5. About 2 > > months ago we moved that functionality off to another box. We have a load > > of nt on it currently and it boots and stays up with no problems. > > > > I tried all of your suggestions and a few others: > > > > 1. Booting with new kernel you provided > > I think it might be something about the ev5; I ran across something > saying that VMS has machine check problems when booting on an EV5 2x00 > & a (binary) patch for it. Your machine's problem sounds similar. > > I have another "stab in the dark" floppy for you to try, but its just > a guess (going to ipl7 when probing the pci bus like linux does) > The floppy is at the same location: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/kern.flp > > If that fails too, you might try upgrading your SRM console to the latest > firmware available. > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 20:13:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aismail.ais.msu.edu (ais.msu.edu [35.8.113.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1317137B43E for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from firsttim@msu.edu) Received: by ais.msu.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2F3RQFK1>; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:13:09 -0400 Message-ID: <17F0EC17EF87D311BF65009027D3C39D0118F795@ais.msu.edu> From: "First, Tim" To: "'wkb@freebie.demon.nl'" Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:13:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I already have the latest SRM firmware on the box. I tried that after I had problems with 4.2 before doing my research. I will try the new kernel from Drew tomorrow morning when I get into work. I don't have a license for Tru64, and as I recall it was relitively expensive last time I checked. This box currently has no useful purpose to us, and I am trying to give it one. I tried to trade it in, but just can't justify getting $3200 from dell for a box that cost us $750K four years ago. I am hoping to get a unix variant running on this to run amanda on and give it some more life. I don't want to throw it away, but it's not worth $7500/year for maintainence. -tim ---- Timothy D. First, MCSE, CNA firsttim@msu.edu Information Technologist II (517) 353-4420 x335 Administrative Information Services Fax: (517) 355-5176 Michigan State University -----Original Message----- From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl [mailto:wkb@freebie.demon.nl] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:59 PM To: Andrew Gallatin; First, Tim; 'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org' Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Just for the record: the 2100A I used to test Drew's AS2100A support on is an EV4/200 dual CPU. It has no problems building world etc. So the guess about the EV5 might be a good one. I would upgrade to the latest SRM anyway, legacy NT boxes tend to have ancient SRMs installed.. Any chance to see if you can get Tru64 loaded onto it just to see what that OS thinks? Just my EUR 0.02 Wilko > First, Tim writes: > > No luck so far. The machine had been up for about 4 years with no major > > problems as a data warehouse running NT 4.0 & SQL Server 6.5. About 2 > > months ago we moved that functionality off to another box. We have a load > > of nt on it currently and it boots and stays up with no problems. > > > > I tried all of your suggestions and a few others: > > > > 1. Booting with new kernel you provided > > I think it might be something about the ev5; I ran across something > saying that VMS has machine check problems when booting on an EV5 2x00 > & a (binary) patch for it. Your machine's problem sounds similar. > > I have another "stab in the dark" floppy for you to try, but its just > a guess (going to ipl7 when probing the pci bus like linux does) > The floppy is at the same location: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/kern.flp > > If that fails too, you might try upgrading your SRM console to the latest > firmware available. > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 20:17:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5432B37B496 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14lMkh-0004QZ-00; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 03:17:35 +0000 To: "First, Tim" , "'wkb@freebie.demon.nl'" , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" From: wkb@freebie.demon.nl Subject: RE: 4.3RC2 on AlphaServer 2100A (Lynx) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:17:35 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.74 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I already have the latest SRM firmware on the box. I tried that after I had > problems with 4.2 before doing my research. I will try the new kernel from > Drew tomorrow morning when I get into work. OK, then that is settled. > I don't have a license for Tru64, and as I recall it was relitively > expensive last time I checked. This box currently has no useful purpose to For .edu there are cheap licenses I think, but I was not suggesting to put Tru64 on it permanently but just check if you could install it OK. Again, I think Drew might be right on the EV4/EV5 issue. My AS2100A is in .nl and I'm currently in .hk so I am unfortunately not able to help out in testing. I have no EV5 CPUs for the Lynx anyway. > us, and I am trying to give it one. I tried to trade it in, but just can't > justify getting $3200 from dell for a box that cost us $750K four years ago. > I am hoping to get a unix variant running on this to run amanda on and give > it some more life. I don't want to throw it away, but it's not worth > $7500/year for maintainence. It most definitely not worth that amount of money ;-) Donate it to Drew :) Wilko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 5 23:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.umr.edu (mrelay.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF7E37B424 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrezny@umr.edu) Received: from Beast (Aven17636V@d-131-151-189-36.dynamic.umr.edu [131.151.189.36]) via SMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id BAA06288; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:25:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200104060625.BAA06288@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> From: "Matthew Rezny" To: "alpha@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 00:25:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Matthew Rezny" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Intel Gigabit driver (if_wx) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got a few gigabit network cards that use the Intel 82542 chip. They work find in FreeBSD/i386, Linux, and Win2000. However, under FreeBSD/alpha there is a serious problem. When connected, the Alpha box has no problem, but the oter box has its CPU pegged at 100% kernel/system usage and is barely responsive at the console. A ping results in very few returned packets, and with times vary from a few humdred ms to several seconds. When the other box is FreeBSD/alpha is see "wx0: receive sequence error" repeated MANY MANY times. I suspected platform differences are the problem so I searched for "long" in the driver files. I found "long" and "u_long" in use in both if_wx.c and if_wxvar.h, so I replaced them with "int" and "unsigned int" respectively. I know long and int are 4bytes on i386, however long is 8 bytes on Alpha. u_long is something I'm not familiar with so assume its short for unsigned long and thus unsugned int would be the proper replacement. I recompiled after my changed and got a few warnings about wrong pointer size so it would appear so other file linked against has a similar problem. Once I booted with the modified driver I got MUCH better results. A few packets are dropped (14% packet loss on a 540 packet ping), but those returned average 0.263ms. Its about half that when its FreeBSD/i386 connecting to NT, and without packet loss. The NT box has about 80% kernel CPU usage when the link is up, which should not be teh case, but at least the box is responsive. Is there anyone on this mailing list that would be in the position to look into this in more detail? As it is, the Intel gigabit driver is useless on Alpha until this is fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 1: 6: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lancia.onthenet.com.au (lancia.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5727E37B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonyg@OntheNet.com.au) Received: from lancia.OntheNet.com.au (lancia.OntheNet.com.au [203.13.70.41]) by lancia.onthenet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA20859; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:05:49 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:05:49 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Griffiths To: Matthew Rezny Cc: "alpha@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Intel Gigabit driver (if_wx) In-Reply-To: <200104060625.BAA06288@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matthew Rezny wrote: > I got a few gigabit network cards that use the Intel 82542 chip. They work find > in FreeBSD/i386, Linux, and Win2000. However, under FreeBSD/alpha there is a > serious problem. When connected, the Alpha box has no problem, but the oter box > has its CPU pegged at 100% kernel/system usage and is barely responsive at the > console. My guess is that the card has not been configured quite correctly. GBit Ethernet has the concept of "control" packets which can flow back and forth even when you are not transmitting any data. My guess is that the FreeBSD/Alpha system is spewing these out as GBit rate and flooding the other machine with spurious interrupt handling! > A ping results in very few returned packets, and with times vary from a > few humdred ms to several seconds. When the other box is FreeBSD/alpha is see > "wx0: receive sequence error" repeated MANY MANY times. This is consistent with the above comment... > I suspected platform > differences are the problem so I searched for "long" in the driver files. I > found "long" and "u_long" in use in both if_wx.c and if_wxvar.h, so I replaced > them with "int" and "unsigned int" respectively. I know long and int are 4bytes > on i386, however long is 8 bytes on Alpha. u_long is something I'm not familiar > with so assume its short for unsigned long and thus unsugned int would be the long/u_long are indeed 8 bytes on FreeBSD Alpha. When they refer to a 32-bit device register you should change them to int32_t and uint32_t (see sys/inttypes.h) variables to be EXPLICIT about the size! > proper replacement. I recompiled after my changed and got a few warnings about > wrong pointer size so it would appear so other file linked against has a similar > problem. Once I booted with the modified driver I got MUCH better results. A few > packets are dropped (14% packet loss on a 540 packet ping), but those returned > average 0.263ms. Its about half that when its FreeBSD/i386 connecting to NT, and > without packet loss. The NT box has about 80% kernel CPU usage when the link is > up, which should not be teh case, but at least the box is responsive. Is there > anyone on this mailing list that would be in the position to look into this in > more detail? As it is, the Intel gigabit driver is useless on Alpha until this > is fixed. Looks like the MAC/PHY setup is still not right! Probably something being mangled still w.r.t 32-bit/64-bit operation. A closer examination of the MAX/PHY setup code is in order... Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 3:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F04B37B506; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from [62.49.251.130] (helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14lTJh-0003pm-0B; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:18:09 +0000 Received: from herring (herring [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f36AGr724878; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:16:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:16:53 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Michael Richards , Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes In-Reply-To: <20010405145006.F28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:37:38PM -0400, Michael Richards wrote: > > Doug's patches have been posted to the list. Since Joseph has > > verified that they do work on the AS1200 and Doug has verified that > > the loader still works on the non-affected machines, > > I must be farther behind in my email than I thought. I don't recall Doug > ever saying he tested his patch on *any* machine. It was the testing by > another that the commit was based on. Am I wrong on the amount of > testing this has had? You are not wrong. All the testing was done by others in this instance. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 4:18: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB33237B443; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14lUFd-000IY0-00; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:18:01 +0000 To: Doug Rabson , "David O'Brien" , Michael Richards , From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: AlphaServer 1200 install woes Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:18:01 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.71 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As for testing: has AS4[01]00 been tested succesfully? I'm using a clumsy webmail interface from my laptop in HongKong so I could have missed it, please bear with me. Wilko > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 07:37:38PM -0400, Michael Richards wrote: > > > Doug's patches have been posted to the list. Since Joseph has > > > verified that they do work on the AS1200 and Doug has verified that > > > the loader still works on the non-affected machines, > > > > I must be farther behind in my email than I thought. I don't recall Doug > > ever saying he tested his patch on *any* machine. It was the testing by > > another that the commit was based on. Am I wrong on the amount of > > testing this has had? > > You are not wrong. All the testing was done by others in this instance. > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 6: 2:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE4A37B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:02:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36D47R20119 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:04:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:02:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo Veraldi X-Sender: To: Subject: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I read on the hardware platform list that AlphaServer 1000 is in general supported. My model is 4/266. Is it supported ? In particular can I use the standard console to isntall FreeBSD/alpha ?? on my VAXstation 4000/90 I had to use the serial console to install NetBSD because there was no driver avaliable for the standard console. IS it the case also with FreeBSD for Alpha ? Can I boot the installation CD-rom image ? Thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 6:32:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F9937B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15578; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f36DVmn06416; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:31:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.50499.982572.813784@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:31:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo Veraldi Cc: Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo Veraldi writes: > > I read on the hardware platform list that AlphaServer 1000 is in general > supported. My model is 4/266. Is it supported ? Yes. There were several bugs in 4.2 that affected EV5 1000's and EV4 1000As, so if your machine is a really a 1000A, use 4.3; otherwise you should be OK with 4.2. > In particular can I use the standard console to isntall FreeBSD/alpha ?? > on my VAXstation 4000/90 I had to use the serial console to install NetBSD > because there was no driver avaliable for the standard console. > IS it the case also with FreeBSD for Alpha ? It depends on what your video hardware is. If you have VGA graphics adapter, then you should be able to use the keyboard/monitor ("graphics") console. If you have a TGA graphics adapter, then you need to use a serial console. > Can I boot the installation CD-rom image ? Yes. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 6:39:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315C637B496 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36DehR20767; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:39:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo Veraldi X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: <15053.50499.982572.813784@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I also have a AlphaStation 255. is it well supported ? In this case anyway my video card is broken and does not work. Any idea on how I could switch to serial console ? I am not expert of Alhpa Hardware I just got this machine today. thanks Rick On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:31:47 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Riccardo Veraldi > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 > > > Riccardo Veraldi writes: > > > > I read on the hardware platform list that AlphaServer 1000 is in general > > supported. My model is 4/266. Is it supported ? > > Yes. There were several bugs in 4.2 that affected EV5 1000's and EV4 > 1000As, so if your machine is a really a 1000A, use 4.3; otherwise you > should be OK with 4.2. > > > In particular can I use the standard console to isntall FreeBSD/alpha ?? > > on my VAXstation 4000/90 I had to use the serial console to install NetBSD > > because there was no driver avaliable for the standard console. > > IS it the case also with FreeBSD for Alpha ? > > It depends on what your video hardware is. If you have VGA graphics > adapter, then you should be able to use the keyboard/monitor > ("graphics") console. If you have a TGA graphics adapter, then you > need to use a serial console. > > > Can I boot the installation CD-rom image ? > > Yes. > > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 6:41:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B94337B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15735; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f36Df2O06443; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:41:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.51054.720837.832283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:41:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo Veraldi Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: References: <15053.50499.982572.813784@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo Veraldi writes: > > I also have a AlphaStation 255. > is it well supported ? Yes. > In this case anyway my video card is broken and does not work. > Any idea on how I could switch to serial console ? Pull out the keyboard & power-cycle, it should switch to a serial console on the lowest numbered port, 9600,8,N,1 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 6:41:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8073A37B446 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:41:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13139; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:41:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Tony Griffiths Cc: Matthew Rezny , "alpha@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Intel Gigabit driver (if_wx) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org actually, I've run the wiseman card on freebsd alpha w/o problems. Try reversing your cable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 7:10:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A229937B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f36ECJR22009; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:10:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo Veraldi X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: <15053.51054.720837.832283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So you mean I simply disconnect the keyboard cable ?? Can I use the rj12 DEC connector ? I actually have that kind of cable already prepared. THanks Rick On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:41:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Riccardo Veraldi > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 > > > Riccardo Veraldi writes: > > > > I also have a AlphaStation 255. > > is it well supported ? > > Yes. > > > In this case anyway my video card is broken and does not work. > > Any idea on how I could switch to serial console ? > > Pull out the keyboard & power-cycle, it should switch to a serial > console on the lowest numbered port, 9600,8,N,1 > > Drew > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 7:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (imul.math.uni.lodz.pl [212.191.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DB337B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dagoon@math.uni.lodz.pl) Received: by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent, from userid 1168) id D31021F0A; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by imul.math.uni.lodz.pl (Mail Transport Agent) with ESMTP id C9DFE17435 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:18:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:18:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Marcin Gryszkalis To: freebsd alpha mailiing list Subject: boot stop after 'reboot' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi I have AS500, after 'reboot' (FreeBSD 4.*) it reboots, shows 'CPU 0 halted', flashes screen, flashes keyboard leds and stops, I have to push [reset] button, after this it boots fine (after CPU 0 halted and flashes it continues booting). Is that SRM problem/setting? btw, how to save results of SRM work (eg. show dev)? marcin -- .d$$$$b, $d$$$$b. .d$$$$b, Marcin Gryszkalis $$' `"" $$' `"' $$' `$$ $$. .ss $$ $$ $$ (...) QED. (QED translates from the Latin `"8$$8"' 88 88 88 as "So what?") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 7:19: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1706B37B43C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16388; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f36EITw06583; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:18:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.53301.123990.448655@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:18:29 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo Veraldi Cc: Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: References: <15053.51054.720837.832283@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo Veraldi writes: > So you mean I simply disconnect the keyboard cable ?? > Can I use the rj12 DEC connector ? > I actually have that kind of cable already prepared. > THanks > Yes, just disconnecting the keyboard in enough on most machines. I don't know what an rj12 is -- AS255s have db9 serial ports. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 7:23:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039E837B424 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16557; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f36EN7n06625; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:23:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.53578.963510.691331@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:23:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Marcin Gryszkalis Cc: freebsd alpha mailiing list Subject: Re: boot stop after 'reboot' In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marcin Gryszkalis writes: > hi > I have AS500, after 'reboot' (FreeBSD 4.*) it reboots, > shows 'CPU 0 halted', flashes screen, flashes keyboard leds and stops, > I have to push [reset] button, after this it boots fine (after CPU 0 > halted and flashes it continues booting). Is that SRM problem/setting? > btw, how to save results of SRM work (eg. show dev)? > marcin > Its a a bit of a hack, but try setting auto_action to restart in the srm console. Eg: >>> set auto_action restart Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 7:26: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14A137B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13289; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:25:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Riccardo Veraldi , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: <15053.53301.123990.448655@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rj12 is that funny lopsided telco-like connector that DEC uses for serial when it doesn't use something sensible like DB9 or DB25. But DEC also then usually supplies adapters. On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Riccardo Veraldi writes: > > So you mean I simply disconnect the keyboard cable ?? > > Can I use the rj12 DEC connector ? > > I actually have that kind of cable already prepared. > > THanks > > > > Yes, just disconnecting the keyboard in enough on most machines. > > I don't know what an rj12 is -- AS255s have db9 serial ports. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 8:26: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from schottky.phys.ksu.edu (schottky.phys.ksu.edu [129.130.5.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 544D837B449 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chriss@phys.ksu.edu) Received: (qmail 13430 invoked by uid 962); 6 Apr 2001 15:25:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Apr 2001 15:25:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:25:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Casey To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 4.3-RC XP1000 In-Reply-To: <15053.53301.123990.448655@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For what its worth, the 4.3-RC iso gets all the way to a blue screen when you would expect to get the installation menu and then stops. There is again a chance of replacing linux with fbsd on the machines here but I seem to have terrible luck with installing on these guys. On the alt-f2 console I find nothing unexpected: DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success) DEBUG: Cant't open PC-card controller /dev/card0. DEBUG: Cant open USB controller. DEBUG: Add mapping for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0 Anyway, is there a hoop I need to jump through to get this guy to boot and install? Thanks Chris Casey Unix System Administrator KSU Physics Department (785) 532-6810 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 8:36:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3C537B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18364; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f36FZnc06798; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:35:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15053.57941.357485.592612@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:35:49 -0400 (EDT) To: Chris Casey Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RC XP1000 In-Reply-To: References: <15053.53301.123990.448655@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try installing with a serial console, so you can get a transcript of what might have happened. Also, are the scsi disks plugged into the on-board controller or an sym controller in a PCI slot? If the latter, move the controller to a slot which is on hose 0. Drew Chris Casey writes: > > For what its worth, the 4.3-RC iso gets all the way to a blue screen when > you would expect to get the installation menu and then stops. There is > again a chance of replacing linux with fbsd on the machines here but I > seem to have terrible luck with installing on these guys. On the alt-f2 > console I find nothing unexpected: > > DEBUG: ioctl(3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success) > DEBUG: Cant't open PC-card controller /dev/card0. > DEBUG: Cant open USB controller. > DEBUG: Add mapping for /dev/cuaa0 to sl0 > > Anyway, is there a hoop I need to jump through to get this guy to boot and > install? > > Thanks > > Chris Casey > Unix System Administrator > KSU Physics Department > (785) 532-6810 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 11:12:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ele.etsmtl.ca (quark.ele.etsmtl.ca [142.137.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B3037B440; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca) Received: from station1.ele.etsmtl.ca (station1 [142.137.19.101]) by quark.ele.etsmtl.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10272; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ele.etsmtl.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by station1.ele.etsmtl.ca (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00276; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 13:36:15 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc Reply-To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: grog@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a working patch but I don't know if this patch has been accepted by Greg Lehey. I want to know if the issue of the dev_t structure has been resolved or not. You have to be aware that vinum is not working anymore on Alpha machines. Normand Leclerc lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:12:21PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > > There has been a nice debate on dev_t structure related to vinum. I > > need vinum working. I'd like to have a status on it please. Is it > > working in the -stable branch (4.3 BETA RC2 as of today) or is it still > > bugged? > > Are you planning on doing anything about this problem? > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 11:29: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from babel.spoiled.org (babel.spoiled.org [212.84.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BB3D37B443 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from list-freebsd.alpha@spoiled.org) Received: (qmail 2310 invoked by uid 8); 6 Apr 2001 18:28:52 -0000 From: thomas graichen Reply-To: thomas graichen X-Newsgroups: spoiled.freebsd.alpha Subject: postgresql on FreeBSD/alpha Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:09:46 +0200 Organization: spoiled dot org Lines: 26 Distribution: local Message-ID: Reply-To: thomas graichen X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@spoiled.org User-Agent: tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.3-XFS (i586)) To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org does postgresql run on FreeBSD/alpha? ... if yes - it might be worth to try the postgresql 7.1 release candidate on FreeBSD/alpha too and send the regression test to the pgsql-hackers list so that also FreeBSD/alpha is listed as supported platform (i think FreeBSD/alpha might be an interesting option for postgresql due to the 64bit cpu and the thus poissible big tables with good performance) ... so if someone has some time and a FreeBSD/alpha machine around it would be worth to give it a try (i currently don't have accesss to an alpha machine anymore and can't do it myself) ... just as an idea ... t p.s.: the sources are available from ftp://ftp.postgresql.org/pub/dev/ i think RC1 or RC3 are the latest pre 7.1 versions (RC2 was just there for a moment) ... -- thomas graichen ... perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away. --- antoine de saint-exupery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 11:57:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB9337B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13161; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Riccardo Veraldi , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > rj12 is that funny lopsided telco-like connector that DEC uses for > serial when it doesn't use something sensible like DB9 or DB25. Actually the connector you are talking about is called 'MMJ'. RJ11 and RJ12 modular connectors share the same physical size but have 2 and 3 pairs respectively. MMJ connectors have the same physical size as RJ11/RJ12 but have the locking tab offset to the left. > But DEC also then usually supplies adapters. Buying RJ12-DB9/DB25 adapters and crimping patch cables with MMJ and RJ12 ends seems to be the best way of doing things, unless of course you happen to have a console server that is wired for MMJ. :) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 12: 4:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9A0237B443 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14391; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:59:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Riccardo Veraldi , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaStation 1000 4/266 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops. You're totally right (red faced) On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > rj12 is that funny lopsided telco-like connector that DEC uses for > > serial when it doesn't use something sensible like DB9 or DB25. > > Actually the connector you are talking about is called 'MMJ'. > > RJ11 and RJ12 modular connectors share the same physical size but have 2 > and 3 pairs respectively. > > MMJ connectors have the same physical size as RJ11/RJ12 but have the > locking tab offset to the left. > > > But DEC also then usually supplies adapters. > > Buying RJ12-DB9/DB25 adapters and crimping patch cables with MMJ and RJ12 > ends seems to be the best way of doing things, unless of course you happen > to have a console server that is wired for MMJ. :) > > -- > | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | > | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | > | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | For Great Justice! | ISO8802.5 4ever | > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 13:18:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3480637B423; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@mail.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20 [10.1.1.22]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f36KIGl72777; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:18:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f36KIe200533; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:18:40 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:18:39 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010406221839.A217@cicely20.cicely.de> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca>; from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:36:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:36:15PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > I have a working patch but I don't know if this patch has been accepted by > Greg Lehey. I want to know if the issue of the dev_t structure has been > resolved or not. You have to be aware that vinum is not working anymore on > Alpha machines. It's not that badly: ticso@cicely9:~# uname -a FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Mar 30 18:42:31 CEST 2001 ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2001-03-28/src/sys/compile/CICELY9 alpha ticso@cicely9:~# mount /dev/da0a on / (ufs, NFS exported, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/md10c on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0a on /var/d2 (ufs, NFS exported, local, noatime, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/vol/d6 on /var/d6 (ufs, NFS exported, local, noatime, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/vol/d7 on /var/d7 (ufs, NFS exported, local, noatime, soft-updates) /dev/vinum/vol/d8 on /var/d8 (ufs, NFS exported, local, noatime, soft-updates) procfs on /proc (procfs, local) pid313@cicely9:/vol on /vol (nfs) 10.1.1.22:/var/d22 on /net/10.1.1.22/var/d22 (nfs) 10.1.5.7:/var/d1 on /net/10.1.5.7/var/d1 (nfs) 10.1.5.7:/var/d0 on /net/10.1.5.7/var/d0 (nfs) Existing vinum volumes still work fine for me - only some config stuff fails such as the following: ticso@cicely9:~# vinum list 9 drives: D ecuda1 State: up Device /dev/da2e Avail: 0/17366 MB (0%) D ecuda2 State: up Device /dev/da3e Avail: 0/17366 MB (0%) D ibm1 State: up Device /dev/da4e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm2 State: up Device /dev/da5e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm3 State: up Device /dev/da6e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm4 State: up Device /dev/da7e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm5 State: up Device /dev/da8e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm6 State: up Device /dev/da9e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) D ibm7 State: up Device /dev/da10e Avail: 0/206 MB (0%) 3 volumes: V d7 State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB V d6 State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 1444 MB V d8 State: up Plexes: 1 Size: 16 GB 3 plexes: Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument Exit 255 I had no problems with -current from Jan 26th 2001. Don't know what is with -stable as my newest -stable alpha is around 4.1-RELEASE. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 14:21:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563C237B422; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@videotron.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBE3AR01.AL6; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:20:51 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f36LKqfa004529; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACE3333.7090001@videotron.ca> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 17:20:51 -0400 From: tcn Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernd Walter Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010406221839.A217@cicely20.cicely.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don't loose tour config, you won't be able to revuild it. Running it is fine, creating new vinums is deadly. The problem will indeed be in the -current branch... Normand Leclerc lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca > It's not that badly: > > 3 plexes: > Can't get config for plex 0: Invalid argument > Exit 255 > > I had no problems with -current from Jan 26th 2001. > Don't know what is with -stable as my newest -stable alpha is around > 4.1-RELEASE. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 14:46: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.umr.edu (mrelay.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7447B37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrezny@umr.edu) Received: from Beast (Aven33773Q@d-131-151-189-36.dynamic.umr.edu [131.151.189.36]) via SMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id QAA25078; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:46:00 -0500 Message-Id: <200104062146.QAA25078@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> From: "Matthew Rezny" To: "alpha@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:45:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Matthew Rezny" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Intel gigabit adapters Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got a few responses to the message I posted last night. In one it was suggested I use int32_t and uint32_t instead of int and unsigned int. I made this change and built te wx driver as a module. Also, I talked to the author of the gx driver (a binary-only alternative to the wx driver) and got that as a kernel module compiled for Alpha. Now I have consistent results with both modules (though average ping time with wx is about half that of gx). With both I now get just 8% packet loss, so I'm getting closer. However, the box connected still gets flooded with spurious interrupts, enough to take about 70% of the CPU. This occurs even without either of the modules loaded yet, so it would appear the card is not getting configured properly. Here are the load messages for each of the modules: wx0: mem 0x82a00000-0x82a1ffff irq19 at device 6.0 on pci2 wx0: interrupting at CIA irq 19 wx0: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:16:78:09 and FreeBSD Intel GigE driver Copyright (c) 1999,2000,2001 Jonathan Lemon. gx0: mem 0x82a00000-0x82a1ffff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci2 gx0: interrupting at CIA irq 19 gx0: Ethernet address 00:08:c7:16:78:09 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 15: 9:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228B037B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f36M91C00390; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:08:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Chris Casey Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RC XP1000 Message-ID: <20010406150856.A374@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15053.53301.123990.448655@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chriss@phys.ksu.edu on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:25:55AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:25:55AM -0500, Chris Casey wrote: > For what its worth, the 4.3-RC iso gets all the way to a blue screen when > you would expect to get the installation menu and then stops. What does SRM think your console type is? >>> show console make sure SRM agrees with your beliefs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 16: 5:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF9437B422; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15352; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:05:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Wilko Bulte , alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: ALpha 4100 boot issues In-Reply-To: <20010406102040.A18676@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] The problem was one of the following two problems: 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might be some funny interaction ther. I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. -matt > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:18:01AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > As for testing: has AS4[01]00 been tested succesfully? I'm using > > Speaking of AS4100 testing... Matt could you write a sentence or two > speaking of the problem the BSDi 4100 had and the limitations 4100 users > have to be aware of? It would be good to get it documented. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 16:39:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF9137B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15484; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:39:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 16:39:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Matthew Rezny Cc: "alpha@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Intel Gigabit driver (if_wx) In-Reply-To: <200104060625.BAA06288@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A bit of a followup on this: 1. The u_long usage, at least in my -current copy, is only in two places- one which just should be intptr_t as it tries to ensure that the rings are aligned safely, and the other where it is reading the PCI command register. Minor oospen- no big deal. 2. Either thru a switch or thru crossover, I have a wiseman talking to a Netgear Tigon II just fine (albeit slowly- the WISEMAN is a total dog)- no excess interrupts. I get plenty of dropped packets if I use spray. This is probably a separate issue from your interrupt load. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:14:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF9B37B423; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE7036ACB7; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:44:29 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:44:29 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca>; from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:36:15PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 6 April 2001 at 13:36:15 -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > I have a working patch but I don't know if this patch has been accepted by > David O'Brien wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:12:21PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: >>> There has been a nice debate on dev_t structure related to vinum. I >>> need vinum working. I'd like to have a status on it please. Is it >>> working in the -stable branch (4.3 BETA RC2 as of today) or is it still >>> bugged? >> >> Are you planning on doing anything about this problem? > > Greg Lehey. I want to know if the issue of the dev_t structure has > been resolved or not. You have to be aware that vinum is not > working anymore on Alpha machines. I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change breaks another component of the system, then it should be up to the person who performs the breakage to fix it again. Having said that, I'll take a look at it today and possibly commit an untested fix. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:15:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036E337B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15829 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:15:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: just noting- occasional panic at startup on alphas in tulip... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doing initial network setup: hostname domain. fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0x2000ffffffffffff a1 = 0x29 a2 = 0x1 pc = 0xfffffc0000514980 ra = 0xfffffc0000515000 curproc = 0xfffffe0009f59400 pid = 20, comm = intr: de0 Stopped at tulip_rx_intr+0x620: stq t0,0(t1) <0xfffffc0000623a28> db> t tulip_rx_intr() at tulip_rx_intr+0x620 tulip_tx_intr() at tulip_tx_intr+0xe0 tulip_intr_handler() at tulip_intr_handler+0x3f0 tulip_intr_normal() at tulip_intr_normal+0x1c ithread_loop() at ithread_loop+0x36c fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x70 exception_return() at exception_return This happens ocassionally when starting up. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:24:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F9B37B42C; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29720; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f371NsH08280; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:23:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15054.27690.326227.830196@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:23:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Greg Lehey Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status In-Reply-To: <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey writes: > > I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of What about beast? > Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change > breaks another component of the system, then it should be up to the > person who performs the breakage to fix it again. > > Having said that, I'll take a look at it today and possibly commit an > untested fix. How about committing John's tested fix, which is what I think Normand is running with. Patch at: http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/vinum.udev.patch Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:30:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0110A37B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:30:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBEETY05.4OX; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:29:58 -0400 Received: from ele.etsmtl.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f371Txfa004872; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACE6D95.8000204@ele.etsmtl.ca> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:29:57 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc Reply-To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of > Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change Oh, sorry, I didn't know... Is vinum going unsupported? > breaks another component of the system, then it should be up to the > person who performs the breakage to fix it again. I agree but will he want to? Like for this one for example... Man, this begins to feel like Linux... > > Having said that, I'll take a look at it today and possibly commit an > untested fix. Thanks. Using udev2dev and dev2udev works fine on my Alpha 'till I compile world again... Normand Leclerc, lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:42: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813E537B422; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B3AD6ACB9; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:12:00 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:12:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407111200.A95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15054.27690.326227.830196@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15054.27690.326227.830196@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:23:54PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 6 April 2001 at 21:23:54 -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Greg Lehey writes: >> >> I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of > > What about beast? This kind of work requires root access. >> Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change >> breaks another component of the system, then it should be up to the >> person who performs the breakage to fix it again. >> >> Having said that, I'll take a look at it today and possibly commit an >> untested fix. > > How about committing John's tested fix, which is what I think Normand > is running with. Patch at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/vinum.udev.patch As I said, I will look at it. But I object to people wanting me to do all the work on Vinum. I didn't cause this breakage, why should I fix it? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C24337B42C for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCF556ACB7; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:13:52 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:13:52 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407111352.B95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3ACE6D95.8000204@ele.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACE6D95.8000204@ele.etsmtl.ca>; from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:29:57PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 6 April 2001 at 21:29:57 -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: >> I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of >> Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change > > Oh, sorry, I didn't know... Is vinum going unsupported? Most parts of the kernel don't have a MAINTAINER. When I maintained Vinum, I received a number of complaints as a result, which is one of the reasons I dropped maintainership last May. That shouldn't mean that any part of the kernel goes unsupported. >> Having said that, I'll take a look at it today and possibly commit an >> untested fix. > > Thanks. Using udev2dev and dev2udev works fine on my Alpha 'till > I compile world again... Well, at least you've tested it :-) Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:50: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFD837B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBEFRD00.7HA; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:50:01 -0400 Received: from ele.etsmtl.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f371o2fa004894; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:50:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACE7248.3030402@ele.etsmtl.ca> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:50:00 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc Reply-To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15054.27690.326227.830196@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This patch is working on an unknown release. I had to fix it to work on 4.3 BETA RC2... I have sent the corrected patch... Normand > How about committing John's tested fix, which is what I think Normand > is running with. Patch at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/vinum.udev.patch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5CA37B42C; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00040; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:50:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f371oLU08322; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:50:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15054.29277.771638.470932@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:50:21 -0400 (EDT) To: Greg Lehey Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status In-Reply-To: <20010407111200.A95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15054.27690.326227.830196@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010407111200.A95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey writes: > On Friday, 6 April 2001 at 21:23:54 -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Greg Lehey writes: > >> > >> I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of > > > > What about beast? > > This kind of work requires root access. Naturally. I imagine David would be happy to give you root access. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 18:56:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE52637B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00138; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f371u7I08335; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:56:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15054.29623.16974.690437@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:56:07 -0400 (EDT) To: Greg Lehey Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status In-Reply-To: <20010407111352.B95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010405144725.E28699@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACDFE8F.46B73446@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407104429.A24010@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3ACE6D95.8000204@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407111352.B95374@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey writes: > On Friday, 6 April 2001 at 21:29:57 -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > >> I don't have access to an alpha. I am also not the MAINTAINER of > >> Vinum, and have not been for more than 12 months. If some change > > > > Oh, sorry, I didn't know... Is vinum going unsupported? > > Most parts of the kernel don't have a MAINTAINER. When I maintained > Vinum, I received a number of complaints as a result, which is one of > the reasons I dropped maintainership last May. That shouldn't mean > that any part of the kernel goes unsupported. > I have to admit that I don't pay close attention to vinum, but I hadn't realized that you've given up maintainership. Your maintainership had been so closely held that I just naturally assumed you were the maintainer without bothering to even look from the MAINTAINER string. I imagine a lot of people are under the same false impression. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 19:22:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C15537B43E; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14liN3-000Jy7-00; Sat, 07 Apr 2001 02:22:37 +0000 To: mjacob@feral.com, "David O'Brien" , Wilko Bulte , alpha@FreeBSD.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:22:37 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.72 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] > > The problem was one of the following two problems: > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in > hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). Is this a plain QL1040? Aka a KZPBA in DEC/CPQ speak? > 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part > that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. Hmm. I will check if this is supported in the first place. > I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be > broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might > be some funny interaction ther. > > I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we > don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. Do any of these problems show themselves using Tru64? Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 6 20:32:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0997737B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f373WMA03787; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 20:32:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues Message-ID: <20010406203217.A3762@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 02:22:37AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 02:22:37AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it > > is not in hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > Is this a plain QL1040? Aka a KZPBA in DEC/CPQ speak? ?DEC designed? 1020 based controller Is KZPBA what controller in Miata-MX5's? If so, it is not that one. > Do any of these problems show themselves using Tru64? No clue. I never installed it on this 4100. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 0:12:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CBB537B42C; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:12:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16974; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:12:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:12:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "David O'Brien" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] > > > > The problem was one of the following two problems: > > > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in > > hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > > Is this a plain QL1040? Aka a KZPBA in DEC/CPQ speak? > > > 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part > > that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. > > Hmm. I will check if this is supported in the first place. > > > I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be > > broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might > > be some funny interaction ther. > > > > I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we > > don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. > > Do any of these problems show themselves using Tru64? Nope. And neither on NetBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 0:53:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7A737B443 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94CFB6ACBB; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:23:48 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:23:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca>; from nospam@ele.etsmtl.ca on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:12:21PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 4 April 2001 at 15:12:21 -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > There has been a nice debate on dev_t structure related to > vinum. I need vinum working. I'd like to have a status on it > please. Is it working in the -stable branch (4.3 BETA RC2 as of > today) or is it still bugged? I've taken a look at the patch you supplied. It's very big, and it tends to obfuscate the code. As others have observed, a better solution would be to remove the dev_t from the expurgated version of the struct. I have some code in preparation which does this, so it really doesn't seem to make any sense to change so much code. Try this temporary fix. It works fine on the i386; is it OK on alpha? --- vinumvar.h 2001/03/13 02:59:43 1.32.2.2 +++ vinumvar.h 2001/04/07 07:48:34 @@ -406,7 +406,12 @@ u_int64_t sectors; /* and length in sectors */ } *freelist; struct partinfo partinfo; /* partition information */ +/* XXX kludge until we get this struct cleaned up */ +#if _KERNEL dev_t dev; /* device information */ +#else + char dev [sizeof(int *)]; +#endif #ifdef VINUMDEBUG char lockfilename[16]; /* name of file from which we were locked */ int lockline; /* and the line number */ Before you say "that should be sizeof(udev_t)", note that udev_t is defined differently in userland (another thing we need to look at, I suppose). Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 5:27:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1317A37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 05:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@videotron.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBF99J03.78Y for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:27:19 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f37CRHfa010650 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACF07A5.9040706@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 08:27:17 -0400 From: tcn Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: /sys/alpha/linux/linux_syscall.h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did a cvsup this morning (around 8:00am EST) and I tried to compile the kernel. The file linux_syscall.h has been removed from /sys/alpha/linux ??? Normand Leclerc lecn1306@videotron.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 6:36:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8795D37B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@videotron.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBFCGJ03.VSP; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:36:19 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f37DaHfa010718; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACF17D1.10103@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:36:17 -0400 From: tcn Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Try this temporary fix. It works fine on the i386; is it OK on alpha? Yep, this works fine. > Before you say "that should be sizeof(udev_t)", note that udev_t is > defined differently in userland (another thing we need to look at, I > suppose). I just can't image all the problems that will arise when ia64 will be out. There is a lot of 64bits unclean code out there. I think it is an error to keep size of int 32 bits for 64 bits machine. Anyways, this is another story. Normand. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 7:46:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0C237B42C; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:46:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ltyt-00028K-00; Sat, 07 Apr 2001 14:46:27 +0000 To: obrien@freebsd.org, Wilko Bulte , alpha@freebsd.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:46:27 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.72 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 02:22:37AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > is not in hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > > Is this a plain QL1040? Aka a KZPBA in DEC/CPQ speak? > > ?DEC designed? 1020 based controller > > Is KZPBA what controller in Miata-MX5's? If so, it is not that one. KZPBA is a true Qlogic card that is OEMed by DEC/CPQ. It has the Qlogic logo silkscreened onto the PCB itself. > > Do any of these problems show themselves using Tru64? > > No clue. I never installed it on this 4100. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 7:59:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFCE37B42C for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f37ExIg47249; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:59:18 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Greg Lehey Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407075917.A7354@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > +/* XXX kludge until we get this struct cleaned up */ > +#if _KERNEL > dev_t dev; /* device information */ What do you mean by "until we get this struct cleaned up"? PHK and Mike Smith explained what dev_t in the kernel (plus udev_t) vs. dev_t in userland are. I saw no indication that was going to change. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 12:16:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13B737B422; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@mail.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20 [10.1.1.22]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f37JGWl85483; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:16:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f37JGvU04071; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:16:57 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Greg Lehey , "David O'Brien" Cc: lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010407211657.B4055@cicely20.cicely.de> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010407075917.A7354@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:59:18AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > +/* XXX kludge until we get this struct cleaned up */ > > +#if _KERNEL > > dev_t dev; /* device information */ > > What do you mean by "until we get this struct cleaned up"? > PHK and Mike Smith explained what dev_t in the kernel (plus udev_t) vs. > dev_t in userland are. I saw no indication that was going to change. I asume exactly what Greg wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: [...] > tends to obfuscate the code. As others have observed, a better > solution would be to remove the dev_t from the expurgated version of > the struct. I have some code in preparation which does this, so it > really doesn't seem to make any sense to change so much code. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 16:30:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2015837B423; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14m2A8-0004hN-00; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:30:36 +0200 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f37NKMd61139; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:20:22 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: jmz@FreeBSD.org Subject: XFree86-4 on alpha Message-ID: <20010408012022.A60088@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Cc to the maintainer of our XFree86-4 port.) After an aborted attempt in the days of 4.0.1, I finally decided to switch to XFree86 4.0.3 on my box (PC164, Matrox Mystique, 5.0-CURRENT). Short summary of my results: - The x11/XFree86-4 ports builds fine. - xdm still dumps core when queried by an X display. This means you cannot use an alpha to manage X terminals, i.e. you cannot log into an alpha from an X display. (Depending on individual work habits that ranges from "huh?" to very bad.) - The mga driver occasionally produces garbage on the display and, what's much worse, hangs completely. You can SIGKILL it, but that leaves the console in an unusable state. My current stopgap solution is to run the solid XF86_SVGA server from 3.3.6 along with the rest of XFree86 4.0.3. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 17:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1929037B422; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF7F26ACB7; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:13:50 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:13:50 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Bernd Walter Cc: David O'Brien , lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010408101350.F76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010407075917.A7354@dragon.nuxi.com> <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010407211657.B4055@cicely20.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010407211657.B4055@cicely20.cicely.de>; from ticso@mail.cicely.de on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 09:16:57PM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 7 April 2001 at 21:16:57 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 07:59:18AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> +/* XXX kludge until we get this struct cleaned up */ >>> +#if _KERNEL >>> dev_t dev; /* device information */ >> >> What do you mean by "until we get this struct cleaned up"? >> PHK and Mike Smith explained what dev_t in the kernel (plus udev_t) vs. >> dev_t in userland are. I saw no indication that was going to change. > > I asume exactly what Greg wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 05:23:48PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > [...] >> tends to obfuscate the code. As others have observed, a better >> solution would be to remove the dev_t from the expurgated version of >> the struct. I have some code in preparation which does this, so it >> really doesn't seem to make any sense to change so much code. Correct. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 17:45:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B270037B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A136ACB9; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:15:27 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:15:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: leclercn@videotron.ca Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status Message-ID: <20010408101527.G76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3ACF17D1.10103@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3ACF17D1.10103@videotron.ca>; from nospam@videotron.ca on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 09:36:17AM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 7 April 2001 at 9:36:17 -0400, tcn wrote: >> Try this temporary fix. It works fine on the i386; is it OK on alpha? > > Yep, this works fine. Good, I'll commit it. >> Before you say "that should be sizeof(udev_t)", note that udev_t is >> defined differently in userland (another thing we need to look at, I >> suppose). > > I just can't image all the problems that will arise when ia64 will be > out. There is a lot of 64bits unclean code out there. I think that if it works on the alpha, it'll work on the ia64. But I'm prepared to be proven wrong. > I think it is an error to keep size of int 32 bits for 64 bits > machine. Anyways, this is another story. Indeed, and it has nothing to do with the problem at hand, which was that dev_t was defined one way (the POSIX way, so unchangeable) in userland, and another way in the kernel. I still consider this to be a bug. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 19:36: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2088437B43E for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA79951; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: thomas graichen Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: postgresql on FreeBSD/alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, thomas graichen wrote: > does postgresql run on FreeBSD/alpha? ... if yes - it might be > worth to try the postgresql 7.1 release candidate on FreeBSD/alpha > too and send the regression test to the pgsql-hackers list so that > also FreeBSD/alpha is listed as supported platform (i think > FreeBSD/alpha might be an interesting option for postgresql due > to the 64bit cpu and the thus poissible big tables with good > performance) ... so if someone has some time and a FreeBSD/alpha > machine around it would be worth to give it a try (i currently > don't have accesss to an alpha machine anymore and can't do it > myself) ... For what it's worth, running PG on FreeBSD/Alpha is my goal if everything goes well in testing. That's another reason why I'm hoping the AS1200 install fix gets into 4.3 before release, since that Alpha I've got is an AS1200. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 19:48:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AFC37B43F for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:48:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nospam@videotron.ca) Received: from neutrino.quantum.net ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GBGD5205.H93; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:48:38 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca (client40.quantum.net [192.168.56.40]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id f382mbfa011755; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ACFD185.9010005@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 22:48:37 -0400 From: tcn Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: leclercn@videotron.ca, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum status References: <3ACB7215.F40BE906@ele.etsmtl.ca> <20010407172348.A76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3ACF17D1.10103@videotron.ca> <20010408101527.G76422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I think that if it works on the alpha, it'll work on the ia64. But > I'm prepared to be proven wrong. I don't think that this will be wrong on the ia64. But I beleive that there will be a lot more mixups like this one when we will go totally from 32 to 64 bits. > > that dev_t was defined one way (the POSIX way, so unchangeable) in > userland, and another way in the kernel. I still consider this to be > a bug. This is something I don't understand. Why dev_t is something in kernel and something else in userland? POSIX defines dev_t as a uint32, shouldn't is be the same in kernel? Like you are saying, this is a bug. Normand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 20: 9:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698C937B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3839DM84110 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213D1380A; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: leclercn@videotron.ca Cc: Greg Lehey , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Vinum status In-Reply-To: <3ACFD185.9010005@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 20:09:13 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010408030913.213D1380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tcn wrote: > > I think that if it works on the alpha, it'll work on the ia64. But > > I'm prepared to be proven wrong. > > I don't think that this will be wrong on the ia64. But I beleive that > there will be a lot more mixups like this one when we will go totally > from 32 to 64 bits. ia64 is just like Alpha. int = 32 bits. long and pointers are 64 bit. > > that dev_t was defined one way (the POSIX way, so unchangeable) in > > userland, and another way in the kernel. I still consider this to be > > a bug. > > This is something I don't understand. Why dev_t is something in > kernel and something else in userland? POSIX defines dev_t as a uint32, > shouldn't is be the same in kernel? Like you are saying, this is a bug. POSIX covers userland only. In the kernel dev_t is an opaque "thing" that just happens to be a pointer to a struct. minor(dev_t), major(dev_t) etc appear to work just the same in the kernel as they do as integers in userland. We could go an do a global s/dev_t/kdev_t/ in the kernel in -current, but that just upsets device driver authors because they have two radically different device API's to deal with between -current and RELENG_4. As I recall, Greg was one of those that had complained about this before. IMHO, It would be better to do this at about the point that we change the devsw abstraction. Lets not diverge -current and RELENG_4 just yet when it is easy to work around it in the few places that get broken. > Normand Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 7 23:46:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from moby.geekhouse.net (moby.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A73B37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@dhcp152.geekhouse.net [192.168.1.152]) by moby.geekhouse.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f386mGj04283; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3ACE7248.3030402@ele.etsmtl.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 23:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Normand Leclerc Subject: Re: Vinum status Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Apr-01 Normand Leclerc wrote: > This patch is working on an unknown release. I had to fix it to work > on 4.3 BETA RC2... I have sent the corrected patch... My patch is against current, and it apparently doesn't apply cleanly to RELENG_4. > Normand > >> How about committing John's tested fix, which is what I think Normand >> is running with. Patch at: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/vinum.udev.patch > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message