From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 0:48:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4203137B412 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 00:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21664; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 09:47:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7J7lv613518; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 09:47:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 09:47:57 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Diego Montalvo Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.3 on Alpha 5305? Message-ID: <20010819094757.A13497@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B7EEA78.94B74E8A@earthoid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B7EEA78.94B74E8A@earthoid.com>; from diego@earthoid.com on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 05:21:44PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 05:21:44PM -0500, Diego Montalvo wrote: Whatever you try, it must be the SRM console that you use. AlphaBIOS or ARC consoles do not work with FreeBSD/alpha. What happens if you boot the CD from SRM? Wilko > > I am trying to install FreeBSD Alpha 4.3, on an AlphaServer 5305. I > have been following the step of different tutorials, but have noticed > that on boot all a: and d: (cdrom) FreeBSD media is ignored and > automatically goes to AlphaBios and expects to install Win NT. I have > gone into the SRM Console, but have not been able to get SRM console to > boot FreeBSD Alpha CD. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Thank you > > Diego Montalvo > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 18:17:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69E537B410 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19139; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7K1Gkn27263; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:16:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15232.25854.860429.857601@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:16:46 -0400 (EDT) To: Cc: Subject: Re: so, what was the problem with cdboot for 4.4-PRE anyway? Worked for me.. In-Reply-To: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> References: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whew.. That makes me feel better. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 18:20: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375B337B414; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19155; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7K1JSN27269; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:19:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15232.26016.723068.885342@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:19:28 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" , imp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: today's kernel + JHB's trap.c patch is *evil* In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > As to why the 4100 hasn't seen this, it may be that the slower CPU's are > preventing this race from happening, or that 21164's use a stricter memory > ordering than 21264's. I've seen similar issues where my dual P3 600 would > have problems when my dual PPro 200 wouldn't. > 21264s are the first alpha to do out of order execution. Perhaps this has something to do with it. FWIW, my UP1000 that I gripe about -current stability problems on is a 21264 also.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 18:43:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CD537B409 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7K1hgI79191 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:43:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Subject: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> Message-ID: <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can be snagged from ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 19: 5:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ED537B405 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19677; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7K24xT27393; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:04:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15232.28747.720718.859688@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:04:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dropping compiler support in -current In-Reply-To: <20010817235549.A86990@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20010817235549.A86990@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > Idar Tollefsen: > > > Speaking of which... If a port is broken, and it probably is > > Alpha specific, what is a good way of dealing with it, short > > of fixing it yourself? > > Good question. > > You can report it to the maintainer, who'll probably shrug and point > out that he doesn't have an alpha. You can submit a PR, which will > probably be ignored since nobody feels responsible. You can report > the problem on freebsd-ports, where it will be lost under the deluge > of new ports and update submissions. You can send it to this list, > where people will probably consider it off topic, since it's a ports > problem. > FWIW, maintainers are usually willing to take a patch... But I do feel your pain. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 19:22: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D9637B415 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA19961; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7K2LWc27449; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:21:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15232.29740.434880.140986@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:21:32 -0400 (EDT) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha problems on current In-Reply-To: <9ln48d$1ml6$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20010817081929.A2859@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010817152742.B437@cicely20.cicely.de> <9lje5o$24ra$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20010818172224.A4918@cicely20.cicely.de> <9ln48d$1ml6$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > > > - I'm seeing mysterious writes (kevent says NOTE_WRITE) to my > > > > > executables. I suspect this is a VM bug. > > > > Have you found a way to isulate when it happens? > > No. I wrote a little program that watches /bin/* through kevent(2), > but I'm uncertain how to trace this any further. The writes don't > appear to be related to any particular system activity, although > they possibly correlate with the amount of activity. Also, if I > don't run setiathome in the background I get far fewer writes. You might try putting a breakpoint (compile with ddb, insert Debugger("foo")) into the appropriate kqueue filtering code and getting a stack trace. I'm not sure how many NOTE_WRITE filters will be in use other than yours, but you should be able to catch it.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 22:15:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from admin.vt.com (admin.vt.com [204.117.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AD337B40A for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:15:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diego@earthoid.com) Received: from diego1 (isdn.earthoid.com [204.117.188.113]) by admin.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02885 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:11:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Earthoid WAPSearch" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am encountering the following error when I try to boot "kern.flp" "boot dva0" on alphasever 5000 series: halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = 5645ce0018 boot failure I Have FreeBSD 4.3 alpha on CD-rom and would like to install form the cd-rom. How do I go about CDROM install on Alphaserver? I have a simple "boot dkc0" and to no avail. Thank you, Diego Montalvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 19 22:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E765E37B40C for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7K5FUI80196; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: so, what was the problem with cdboot for 4.4-PRE anyway? Worked for me.. In-Reply-To: <15232.25854.860429.857601@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I put up the CD images- take a try. On Sun, 19 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Whew.. That makes me feel better. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 1: 2:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0105A37B411; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7K82IM67646; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1123811; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" , imp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: today's kernel + JHB's trap.c patch is *evil* In-Reply-To: <15232.26016.723068.885342@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:02:18 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010820080218.BF1123811@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > As to why the 4100 hasn't seen this, it may be that the slower CPU's are > > preventing this race from happening, or that 21164's use a stricter memory > > ordering than 21264's. I've seen similar issues where my dual P3 600 woul d > > have problems when my dual PPro 200 wouldn't. > > > > 21264s are the first alpha to do out of order execution. Perhaps this > has something to do with it. > > FWIW, my UP1000 that I gripe about -current stability problems on is a > 21264 also.. I have a UP2000 in a 'while true make world' loop. It is a 21264 based system SMP, and it has done more than 50 loops in a row now. (Some were cut short due to the libss breakage, but it does a 'make world' in 57 minutes and has been running since friday). I did turn off SMP though since it wedged the ahc scsi controller once. It has been rock solid since then. I'm going to see about making this more available. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 2: 9:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C383537B408; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 02:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12932; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:09:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7K99iC20639; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:09:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:09:44 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820110944.A20566@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > can be snagged from > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 On a Miata GL 600Mc: initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1ca000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) Memory: 262144 k \ Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... can't load 'kernel' can't load 'kernel.old' no bootable kernel / Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok On a Miata MX5 500Mc: initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) Memory: 65536 k \ Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... can't load 'kernel' can't load 'kernel.old' no bootable kernel / Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok Which gives me the bad feeling the problem might be machine type dependent?? Maybe now only big iron works? David, what machine did you see the problem on? Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 3:43:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19A237B418 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09430; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:43:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KAh8g21017; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:43:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:43:08 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820124308.A21003@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > can be snagged from > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 Note to other testers: I had to run 'cdboot' on the disk1.iso to make it bootable. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 5:43:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042637B440 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 05:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27379; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7KCgPr28763; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:42:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15233.1456.964546.408406@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:42:24 -0400 (EDT) To: "Earthoid WAPSearch" Cc: Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Earthoid WAPSearch writes: > Hello, > > I am encountering the following error when I try to boot "kern.flp" "boot > dva0" on alphasever 5000 series: > > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 5645ce0018 > boot failure The text immediately preceding this would be very helpful. Which model 5000 do you have? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 7:12:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7963437B40D for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 07:12:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29436; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7KEBh728887; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:11:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15233.6815.801426.494799@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:11:43 -0400 (EDT) To: "Earthoid WAPSearch" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RE: In-Reply-To: References: <15233.1456.964546.408406@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Earthoid WAPSearch writes: > Drew, > > The model is 5305. I am not sure what you mean by text preceding? The 5305 is a white-box version of the 1200. The cd/floppy bootloader was buggy and didn't boot these machines in 4.x-RELEASE, making installation a real pain. Try using the latest 4.4 images. Urls were posted to this list in the last few days. I think it was ftp://ftp.feral.com/pub/outgoing/disk1.iso Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8: 9:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A662D37B50B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02284; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:09:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KF9fe21883; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:09:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:09:41 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Earthoid WAPSearch , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010820170941.A21855@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15233.1456.964546.408406@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15233.6815.801426.494799@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15233.6815.801426.494799@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:11:43AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:11:43AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Earthoid WAPSearch writes: > > Drew, > > > > The model is 5305. I am not sure what you mean by text preceding? > > The 5305 is a white-box version of the 1200. The cd/floppy bootloader > was buggy and didn't boot these machines in 4.x-RELEASE, making > installation a real pain. > > Try using the latest 4.4 images. Urls were posted to this list in the > last few days. I think it was > ftp://ftp.feral.com/pub/outgoing/disk1.iso ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 Please report back how things went. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:11:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B089037B40C for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KFBbI83893; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:11:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820110944.A20566@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010820081014.B38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm, how odd. And SRM is supposed to be SRM indeed. Have we been through the dance of 'ls' already? I'll be by NASA/Ames later today- I'll see if the TurboLaser works. -matt On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > can be snagged from > > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 > > On a Miata GL 600Mc: > > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > initializing page table at 1ca000 > initializing machine state > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > Console: SRM firmware console > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) > Memory: 262144 k > \ > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > can't load 'kernel' > can't load 'kernel.old' > no bootable kernel > / > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > ok > > On a Miata MX5 500Mc: > > initializing machine state > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > Console: SRM firmware console > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) > Memory: 65536 k > \ > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > can't load 'kernel' > can't load 'kernel.old' > no bootable kernel > / > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > ok > > Which gives me the bad feeling the problem might be machine type dependent?? > Maybe now only big iron works? > > David, what machine did you see the problem on? > > Wilko > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:12:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8582737B40B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KFCmI83903; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:12:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820124308.A21003@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No, no, disk1.iso didn't have cdboot run on it. Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no kernel on disk1! On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > can be snagged from > > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 > > Note to other testers: I had to run 'cdboot' on the disk1.iso to make > it bootable. > > W/ > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:13:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494F737B411 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:13:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06622; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:13:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KFCre21949; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:12:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:12:52 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820171252.C21855@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820110944.A20566@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820081014.B38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820081014.B38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:11:23AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:11:23AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Have not tried 'ls' yet. But this is the disk1.iso. I understand I should have taken disk2.iso? Wilko > Hmm, how odd. And SRM is supposed to be SRM indeed. Have we been through the > dance of 'ls' already? > > I'll be by NASA/Ames later today- I'll see if the TurboLaser works. > > -matt > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > can be snagged from > > > > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 > > > > On a Miata GL 600Mc: > > > > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > > initializing page table at 1ca000 > > initializing machine state > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > Console: SRM firmware console > > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 > > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > > (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) > > Memory: 262144 k > > \ > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > Booting [kernel]... > > can't load 'kernel' > > can't load 'kernel.old' > > no bootable kernel > > / > > > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > > ok > > > > On a Miata MX5 500Mc: > > > > initializing machine state > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > Console: SRM firmware console > > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 > > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > > (root@nellie.feral.com, Fri Aug 17 04:23:47 GMT 2001) > > Memory: 65536 k > > \ > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > Booting [kernel]... > > can't load 'kernel' > > can't load 'kernel.old' > > no bootable kernel > > / > > > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > > ok > > > > Which gives me the bad feeling the problem might be machine type dependent?? > > Maybe now only big iron works? > > > > David, what machine did you see the problem on? > > > > Wilko > > -- > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:15: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E19E37B406 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03979; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:14:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KFElh21978; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:14:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:14:47 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820171447.D21855@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820124308.A21003@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > No, no, disk1.iso didn't have cdboot run on it. > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > kernel on disk1! ?? for 4.3R I used the first iso (the only one available for download) and I (as a result) never had to swap CDs for a kernel. Did I miss something here? > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > can be snagged from > > > > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 > > > > Note to other testers: I had to run 'cdboot' on the disk1.iso to make > > it bootable. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:21: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E05937B412 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24959; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:20:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KFKpw22072; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:20:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:20:51 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820172051.A22058@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820124308.A21003@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > No, no, disk1.iso didn't have cdboot run on it. > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > kernel on disk1! There is a kernel: can't load 'kernel.old' no bootable kernel / Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok ls / d BIN d BOOT d CATPAGES CDROM.INF d COMPAT4X d CRYPTO d DICT d DOC d FLOPPIES d GAMES d INFO KERNEL d MANPAGES d PROFLIBS d SRC TRANS.TBL ok > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 06:43:29PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > can be snagged from > > > > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk1.iso > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/disk2.iso.gz > > > ftp://ftp.feral.com/outgoing/MD5 > > > > Note to other testers: I had to run 'cdboot' on the disk1.iso to make > > it bootable. > > > > W/ > > > > -- > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:32:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D85737B411 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KFWGI84166; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:32:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820171447.D21855@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010820083007.P38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > No, no, disk1.iso didn't have cdboot run on it. > > > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > > kernel on disk1! > > ?? for 4.3R I used the first iso (the only one available for download) and > I (as a result) never had to swap CDs for a kernel. > > Did I miss something here? > Probably not. I've never installed an alpha from CD before (I never received a CD as a developer, and I purchased i386 ones, but there were no alpha ones mostly). I looked at the contents of both CDs, and it seemed pretty clear to me that the disk2 was a bootable CD (the 'fixit' disk), so I booted that one. For all I know, disk1 is supposed to work. I just didn't even try it. Try a vnconfig and look at the contents and tell me what *I* have missed? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 8:52:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF58F37B409 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7KFqR799797; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:52:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:52:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820085227.A12637@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010817111752.L70594-100000@wonky.feral.com> <20010819184246.Q42728-100000@wonky.feral.com> <20010820110944.A20566@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820110944.A20566@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:09:44AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 11:09:44AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Which gives me the bad feeling the problem might be machine type dependent?? > Maybe now only big iron works? > > David, what machine did you see the problem on? 164LX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 10:27:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B2637B403; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:27:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.28]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25819; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:48 +0200 Received: by zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 30AC414E5C; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:27:48 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Peter Wemm Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP - tree broken in -current for Alpha Message-ID: <20010820192748.A11663@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> References: <20010818094624.68FC838CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010818111052.9B758380B@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010818111052.9B758380B@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 04:10:52AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Peter Wemm (peter@wemm.org): > The following diff seems to fix it.. I dont know more than a few bits of This worked on my machine. I saw David commited another patch, is it fixed now? Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 10:28:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E0537B408; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26758; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:28:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KHSjQ22616; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:28:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:28:45 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820192845.B22339@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820171447.D21855@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820083007.P38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820083007.P38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:32:01AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:32:01AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > No, no, disk1.iso didn't have cdboot run on it. > > > > > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > > > kernel on disk1! > > > > ?? for 4.3R I used the first iso (the only one available for download) and > > I (as a result) never had to swap CDs for a kernel. > > > > Did I miss something here? > > Probably not. I've never installed an alpha from CD before (I never received a > CD as a developer, and I purchased i386 ones, but there were no alpha ones > mostly). I looked at the contents of both CDs, and it seemed pretty clear to > me that the disk2 was a bootable CD (the 'fixit' disk), so I booted that one. > > For all I know, disk1 is supposed to work. I just didn't even try it. > > Try a vnconfig and look at the contents and tell me what *I* have missed? OK, now I am completely and thoroughly confused. I repeated Matt's steps and created a bootable CDRW from the *disc2* tree that I generated myself using make release a while back. And this one boots: Digital Personal WorkStation 600au5.e4. Console V7.2-1 Mar 6 2000 14:47:02 CPU 0 booting (boot dkc600.6.0.1004.0 -flags A) block 0 of dkc600.6.0.1004.0 is a valid boot block reading 370 blocks from dkc600.6.0.1004.0 bootstrap code read in base = 1d8000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2e400 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1ca000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 (root@miata.wbnet, Sun Aug 12 16:23:32 CEST 2001) Memory: 262144 k \ Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... elf_loadmodule: filename= /kernel /kernel entry at 0xfffffc000032b200 Segment: 0x5e9c30@0x0 -> 0xfffffc0000300000-0xfffffc000090fddf (bss: 0xfffffc000 08e9c30-0xfffffc000090fddf) \ Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b200... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD somename #1: Sun Aug 12 22:00:10 GMT 2001 root@miata.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Digital Personal Workstation (Miata) Digital Personal WorkStation 600au, 598MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 real memory = 266493952 (260248K bytes) avail memory = 251559936 (245664K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000912000. md1: Malloc disk cia0: Pyxis, pass 1 cia0: extended capabilities: 1 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 dc0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem 0x80965000-0x8096507f irq 0 at device 3.0 on pci0 dc0: interrupting at CIA irq 0 etc. It puts me in sysinstall after booting. I did not change CDs like Matt did, I just booted the disc2 CDRW. On disc2 we find: miata#ls -l total 11023 -rw-r--r-- 4 root wheel 802 Aug 12 22:01 .cshrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1451 Aug 13 00:01 .profile -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 4735 Aug 12 22:01 COPYRIGHT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 909 Aug 20 17:26 TRANS.TBL drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 6144 Aug 12 22:13 bin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 2048 Aug 13 00:01 boot -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22 Aug 13 00:01 cdrom.inf drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 118784 Aug 12 22:01 dev drwxr-xr-x 15 root wheel 12288 Aug 12 22:01 etc -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 6230352 Aug 13 00:00 kernel -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4866409 Aug 12 22:47 kernel.GENERIC drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 21:38 mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 18432 Aug 12 21:56 modules dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 21:38 proc drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 22:01 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 12288 Aug 12 22:16 sbin lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Aug 13 00:01 sys -> usr/src/sys drwxrwxrwt 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 21:38 tmp drwxr-xr-x 13 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 23:24 usr drwxr-xr-x 19 root wheel 4096 Aug 12 23:23 var miata#ls -l boot total 733 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 503 Aug 20 17:26 TRANS.TBL -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 7560 Aug 12 21:56 boot1 -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 189232 Aug 13 22:12 cdboot drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 12 21:56 defaults -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 190112 Aug 12 21:56 loader -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 9237 Aug 12 21:56 loader.4th -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 109056 Aug 12 21:56 loader.exe -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 10541 Aug 12 21:56 loader.help -rw-r--r-- 2 root wheel 26 Aug 13 00:00 loader.rc -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 208888 Aug 12 21:56 netboot -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 25121 Aug 12 21:56 support.4th miata# In contrast, on disc1 we find: miata#ls -la total 6193 drwxrwxr-x 15 root wheel 4096 Aug 17 02:09 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root wheel 512 Aug 7 20:35 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 717 Aug 17 13:36 TRANS.TBL drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 22528 Aug 17 02:09 bin drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 boot drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Aug 17 02:09 catpages -rw-rw-r-- 1 root wheel 33 Aug 17 02:09 cdrom.inf drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 compat4x drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 10240 Aug 17 02:09 crypto drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 dict drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 doc drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 floppies drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Aug 17 02:09 games drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Aug 17 02:09 info -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 6231680 Aug 17 02:08 kernel drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 6144 Aug 17 02:09 manpages drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Aug 17 02:09 proflibs drwxrwxr-x 2 root wheel 40960 Aug 17 02:09 src miata#ls -l boot total 370 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 147 Aug 17 13:36 TRANS.TBL -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 188744 Aug 17 00:10 cdboot -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 190120 Aug 17 02:08 loader -rw-rw-r-- 2 root wheel 26 Aug 17 02:08 loader.rc miata# For comparison this is what 4.3R has on the CD: wb /mnt: ls -l total 7 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 9707 Apr 21 21:17 ABOUT.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 980 Apr 21 21:17 ERRATA.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 114245 Apr 21 21:17 HARDWARE.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 20248 Apr 21 21:17 INSTALL.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4722 Apr 21 21:17 LAYOUT.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 3615 Apr 21 21:17 README.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 37774 Apr 21 21:17 RELNOTES.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 17777 Apr 21 21:17 TROUBLE.TXT -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 8453 Apr 21 21:17 UPGRADE.TXT dr-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4096 Apr 23 03:04 XF86336 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 22528 Apr 21 21:17 bin dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 boot dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Apr 21 21:17 catpages -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 25 Apr 21 21:17 cdrom.inf dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 compat4x dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 10240 Apr 21 21:17 crypto dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 dict dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 doc -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 89422 Apr 23 03:25 filename.txt dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 floppies dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Apr 21 21:17 games dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:17 info -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 6298064 Apr 21 21:16 kernel dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Apr 21 21:17 manpages dr-xr-xr-x 66 root wheel 8192 Apr 22 09:55 packages dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Apr 21 21:23 ports dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4096 Apr 21 21:17 proflibs dr-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 40960 Apr 21 21:17 src wb /mnt: ls -l boot total 1 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7400 Apr 21 21:16 boot1 -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 181856 Apr 21 16:19 cdboot -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 188408 Apr 21 21:16 loader -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 26 Apr 21 21:16 loader.rc wb /mnt: This brings me to: - To me disc1 of RELENG_4 corresponds to disc1 of 4.3R - RELENG_4 no longer has boot/boot1 ; I don't think that is bad? - there is nothing inherently broken in cdboot - there is nothing inherently broken in loader either Hypothesis: - does loader now need additional support files from /boot that disc2 has but disc1 does not? Note: cdboot on disc1 and disc2 are not the same as I had some debugging added in disc1. Any helpful insights appreciated. David, any chance you can try a boot of disc2 on the 164LX for comparison? Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 10:34:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1386837B419 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:34:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KHXtI95325; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:33:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820192845.B22339@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20010820103233.D38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bottom line; at least on of the CD set is bootable for 4.4 for Alpha. Therefore, this is something to fix, but not something to hold the release for. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 10:55:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AEF37B40F; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:55:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05550; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7KHsqU35139; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:54:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15233.20204.373104.580891@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:54:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Alexander Langer Cc: Peter Wemm , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP - tree broken in -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: <20010820192748.A11663@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> References: <20010818094624.68FC838CC@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010818111052.9B758380B@overcee.netplex.com.au> <20010820192748.A11663@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander Langer writes: > Thus spake Peter Wemm (peter@wemm.org): > > > The following diff seems to fix it.. I dont know more than a few bits of > > This worked on my machine. > > I saw David commited another patch, is it fixed now? > Yes, I just did a current buildworld/installworld and it seems to be fine. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11: 0:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0B837B411 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA28308; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:00:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KI01B22762; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:00:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:00:01 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820200001.A22737@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820192845.B22339@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820103233.D38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820103233.D38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:33:40AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 10:33:40AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Bottom line; at least on of the CD set is bootable for 4.4 for Alpha. > Therefore, this is something to fix, but not something to hold the release > for. Hmm. I would prefer a somewhat more deterministic behaviour of FreeBSD though :) -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11: 2: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32D537B407; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09164; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15232.26016.723068.885342@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: today's kernel + JHB's trap.c patch is *evil* Cc: imp@FreeBSD.org, "David O'Brien" , alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-Aug-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > As to why the 4100 hasn't seen this, it may be that the slower CPU's are > > preventing this race from happening, or that 21164's use a stricter memory > > ordering than 21264's. I've seen similar issues where my dual P3 600 > would > > have problems when my dual PPro 200 wouldn't. > > > > 21264s are the first alpha to do out of order execution. Perhaps this > has something to do with it. > > FWIW, my UP1000 that I gripe about -current stability problems on is a > 21264 also.. Actually, this panic in question may be due to taking a trap in mtx_unlock_sleep() to mark a page as being referenced or somesuch and the trap would've released Giant, and thus when we resumed in mtx_unlock_sleep(), we were releasing a lock we didn't hold, which would lead to this panic. After I got a chance to relax and get away from computers a bit this weekend, I sort of figured that out. The problem with the mb's being wrong is that for that to have caused breakage, the process would have had to migrate across CPU's a few times and then still read stale data. However, all the mb's in lock operations for sched_lock would have prevented that. Also, mb's aren't used to manage cache coherency directly (which was what my mb theory depended on sort of), that is handled by snooping in the hardware. mb's just push data out of the CPU and onto the cache where the snooping can take effect. In summary, I'm now not sure that mtx_owned() is busted. If it was, I think we would have seen a _lot_ of bogus mtx_assert() panics by now. I guess my brain was just frazzled and stressed last Friday. > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11: 7:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37DD37B403 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:07:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05837 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7KI7GW35185; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:07:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15233.20948.39510.132321@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:07:16 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: current looking better.. X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just tried a current buildworld/installworld for the first time in quite a while. Much to my surprise, it all worked without a hitch using a top of the tree kernel. (except for VM_SWZONE_SIZE_MAX and VM_BCACHE_SIZE_MAX which dillon just fixed) Does anybody know if its safe to share disks between -stable and -current these days? Or will -current confuse -stable's fsck too much? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11:33:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818CA37B414 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7KIXNS03119; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:33:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current looking better.. Message-ID: <20010820113323.A3032@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <15233.20948.39510.132321@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15233.20948.39510.132321@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:07:16PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:07:16PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Does anybody know if its safe to share disks between -stable and > -current these days? Or will -current confuse -stable's fsck too much? Using a top of the tree -current it is OK. There was a time it wasn't. I also turned off background fsck's as it was acting "weird". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11:37:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA3037B401 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:37:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7KIbFP03180; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:37:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:37:14 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820113714.B3032@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010820124308.A21003@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820081136.I38936-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > kernel on disk1! No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 11:38:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C39737B40B; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:38:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06969; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7KIbkB35288; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15233.22778.856424.794052@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:37:46 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: current looking better.. In-Reply-To: <20010820113323.A3032@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <15233.20948.39510.132321@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010820113323.A3032@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:07:16PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Does anybody know if its safe to share disks between -stable and > > -current these days? Or will -current confuse -stable's fsck too much? > > Using a top of the tree -current it is OK. There was a time it wasn't. > I also turned off background fsck's as it was acting "weird". > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message Excellent, thanks. I may try running a current alpha box as my desktop.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 13:35:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F334337B412 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KKZKI68598; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:35:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820113714.B3032@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20010820133448.G39319-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > > kernel on disk1! > > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 14:11: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5082237B40A for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27608; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KLAwB23345; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:10:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:10:58 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820231058.A23315@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820113714.B3032@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010820133448.G39319-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820133448.G39319-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > > > kernel on disk1! > > > > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. > > No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. But has anybody any idea *why* #2 is now the working one? I agree that #2 is better than none at all, but it sure as h* will cause problems for those accustomed to single CD installs. Not to mention the documentation of course. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 14:25:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1268037B40E for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11214; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010820231058.A23315@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Jacob Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-Aug-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: >> > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from >> > > cdrom >> > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no >> > > kernel on disk1! >> > >> > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. >> >> No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. > > But has anybody any idea *why* #2 is now the working one? I agree that >#2 is better than none at all, but it sure as h* will cause problems for > those accustomed to single CD installs. Not to mention the documentation > of course. CD #1 needs to work. Installs should only need CD #1. Both CD's should be bootable, so you can boot off of disk 2 and go directly into fixit mode w/o having to swap CD's. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 14:38:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8797A37B419; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:38:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08833; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:38:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7KLcjB23550; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:38:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:38:45 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820233845.A23536@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820231058.A23315@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:24:56PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:24:56PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 20-Aug-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >> > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from > >> > > cdrom > >> > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > >> > > kernel on disk1! > >> > > >> > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. > >> > >> No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. > > > > But has anybody any idea *why* #2 is now the working one? I agree that > >#2 is better than none at all, but it sure as h* will cause problems for > > those accustomed to single CD installs. Not to mention the documentation > > of course. > > CD #1 needs to work. Installs should only need CD #1. Both CD's should be > bootable, so you can boot off of disk 2 and go directly into fixit mode w/o > having to swap CD's. Yes, exactly my idea. I never had a #2 CD before. I'm currently building a new buildworld / release and I'll try to find out *what* it is that makes #2 a GO and #1 a NO-GO. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 14:41: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E81037B40F for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KLf2I69010; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:41:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820231058.A23315@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is better than not having anything bootable at all for CDROMs. Yes, it should be fixed. If you have time- great. But there are other pressing issues that certainly demand *my* time. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:12:33AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install from cdrom > > > > media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to work? There's no > > > > kernel on disk1! > > > > > > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. > > > > No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. > > But has anybody any idea *why* #2 is now the working one? I agree that > #2 is better than none at all, but it sure as h* will cause problems for > those accustomed to single CD installs. Not to mention the documentation > of course. > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 15:25:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE9037B408 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KMPoI69271 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: FAQ/Install note for 4.4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Don't forget to edit ttys before quitting install of a TurboLaser and uncomment the zs0 entry" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 15:28:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C11C37B408 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KMSeI69286 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 15:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAQ/Install note for 4.4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Even better, figure out how to do a MAKEDEV of zs0 because the installer doesn't do so. On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > "Don't forget to edit ttys before quitting install of a TurboLaser and > uncomment the zs0 entry" > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 16:40:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AE937B401; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7KNe8l58236; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108202340.f7KNe8l58236@earth.backplane.com> To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is what I was thinking in regards to rolling up the submap initialization code, moving out of the MD section into the MI section. This is for -current only and has not yet been tested, do not patch this in. I'm looking mainly for feedback on things like the location of the procedures, structure declarations, externs, and so forth. This patch includes the rollup for i386 and alpha. platforms that haven't been rolled up will still compile just fine the old way (we can roll things up piecemeal). -Matt Index: vm/vm.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm.h,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 vm.h --- vm/vm.h 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.18 +++ vm/vm.h 2001/08/20 23:35:44 @@ -113,4 +113,21 @@ typedef struct vm_page *vm_page_t; #endif +/* + * Information passed from the machine-independant VM initialization code + * for use by machine-dependant code (mainly for MMU support) + */ +struct kva_md_info { + vm_offset_t buffer_sva; + vm_offset_t buffer_eva; + vm_offset_t clean_sva; + vm_offset_t clean_eva; + vm_offset_t pager_sva; + vm_offset_t pager_eva; +}; + +extern struct kva_md_info kmi; +extern void vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi); + #endif /* VM_H */ + Index: vm/vm_init.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_init.c,v retrieving revision 1.28 diff -u -r1.28 vm_init.c --- vm/vm_init.c 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.28 +++ vm/vm_init.c 2001/08/20 23:34:35 @@ -74,8 +74,12 @@ #include #include #include +#include +#include #include +#include +#include #include #include #include @@ -119,3 +123,154 @@ pmap_init(avail_start, avail_end); vm_pager_init(); } + +void +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) +{ + vm_offset_t firstaddr; + caddr_t v; + vm_size_t size = 0; + int physmem_est; + vm_offset_t minaddr; + vm_offset_t maxaddr; + unsigned int i; + + /* + * Calculate callout wheel size + */ + for (callwheelsize = 1, callwheelbits = 0; + callwheelsize < ncallout; + callwheelsize <<= 1, ++callwheelbits) + ; + callwheelmask = callwheelsize - 1; + + /* + * Allocate space for system data structures. + * The first available kernel virtual address is in "v". + * As pages of kernel virtual memory are allocated, "v" is incremented. + * As pages of memory are allocated and cleared, + * "firstaddr" is incremented. + * An index into the kernel page table corresponding to the + * virtual memory address maintained in "v" is kept in "mapaddr". + */ + + /* + * Make two passes. The first pass calculates how much memory is + * needed and allocates it. The second pass assigns virtual + * addresses to the various data structures. + */ + firstaddr = 0; +again: + v = (caddr_t)firstaddr; + +#define valloc(name, type, num) \ + (name) = (type *)v; v = (caddr_t)((name)+(num)) +#define valloclim(name, type, num, lim) \ + (name) = (type *)v; v = (caddr_t)((lim) = ((name)+(num))) + + valloc(callout, struct callout, ncallout); + valloc(callwheel, struct callout_tailq, callwheelsize); + + /* + * Discount the physical memory larger than the size of kernel_map + * to avoid eating up all of KVA space. + */ + if (kernel_map->first_free == NULL) { + printf("Warning: no free entries in kernel_map.\n"); + physmem_est = physmem; + } else { + physmem_est = min(physmem, kernel_map->max_offset - + kernel_map->min_offset); + } + + /* + * The nominal buffer size (and minimum KVA allocation) is BKVASIZE. + * For the first 64MB of ram nominally allocate sufficient buffers to + * cover 1/4 of our ram. Beyond the first 64MB allocate additional + * buffers to cover 1/20 of our ram over 64MB. When auto-sizing + * the buffer cache we limit the eventual kva reservation to + * maxbcache bytes. + * + * factor represents the 1/4 x ram conversion. + */ + if (nbuf == 0) { + int factor = 4 * BKVASIZE / PAGE_SIZE; + + nbuf = 50; + if (physmem_est > 1024) + nbuf += min((physmem_est - 1024) / factor, + 16384 / factor); + if (physmem_est > 16384) + nbuf += (physmem_est - 16384) * 2 / (factor * 5); + + if (maxbcache && nbuf > physmem_est / BKVASIZE) + nbuf = maxbcache / BKVASIZE; + } + + /* + * Do not allow the buffer_map to be more then 1/2 the size of the + * kernel_map. + */ + if (nbuf > (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / + (BKVASIZE * 2)) { + nbuf = (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / + (BKVASIZE * 2); + printf("Warning: nbufs capped at %d\n", nbuf); + } + + nswbuf = max(min(nbuf/4, 256), 16); + + valloc(swbuf, struct buf, nswbuf); + valloc(buf, struct buf, nbuf); + v = bufhashinit(v); + + /* + * End of first pass, size has been calculated so allocate memory + */ + if (firstaddr == 0) { + size = (vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr); + firstaddr = kmem_alloc(kernel_map, round_page(size)); + if (firstaddr == 0) + panic("startup: no room for tables"); + goto again; + } + + /* + * End of second pass, addresses have been assigned + */ + if ((vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr) != size) + panic("startup: table size inconsistency"); + + clean_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &kmi->clean_sva, &kmi->clean_eva, + (nbuf*BKVASIZE) + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); + buffer_map->system_map = 1; + pager_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->pager_sva, &kmi->pager_eva, + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); + pager_map->system_map = 1; + exec_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &minaddr, &maxaddr, + (16*(ARG_MAX+(PAGE_SIZE*3)))); + + /* + * XXX: Mbuf system machine-specific initializations should + * go here, if anywhere. + */ + + /* + * Initialize callouts + */ + SLIST_INIT(&callfree); + for (i = 0; i < ncallout; i++) { + callout_init(&callout[i], 0); + callout[i].c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; + SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, &callout[i], c_links.sle); + } + + for (i = 0; i < callwheelsize; i++) { + TAILQ_INIT(&callwheel[i]); + } + + mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +} + Index: i386/i386/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.470 diff -u -r1.470 machdep.c --- i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/20 00:41:11 1.470 +++ i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/20 23:36:28 @@ -196,9 +196,8 @@ /* must be 2 less so 0 0 can signal end of chunks */ #define PHYS_AVAIL_ARRAY_END ((sizeof(phys_avail) / sizeof(vm_offset_t)) - 2) -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; +struct kva_md_info kmi; + static struct trapframe proc0_tf; #ifndef SMP static struct globaldata __globaldata; @@ -211,14 +210,6 @@ cpu_startup(dummy) void *dummy; { - register unsigned i; - register caddr_t v; - vm_offset_t maxaddr; - vm_size_t size = 0; - int firstaddr; - vm_offset_t minaddr; - int physmem_est; - /* * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. */ @@ -248,6 +239,9 @@ } } + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); + +#if 0 /* * Calculate callout wheel size */ @@ -384,6 +378,7 @@ } mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +#endif #if defined(USERCONFIG) userconfig(); Index: i386/i386/pmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.284 diff -u -r1.284 pmap.c --- i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.284 +++ i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:10:49 @@ -546,7 +546,7 @@ static PMAP_INLINE int pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) { - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) return 1; else return 0; Index: alpha/alpha/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.138 diff -u -r1.138 machdep.c --- alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/13 22:41:14 1.138 +++ alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/20 23:39:42 @@ -228,9 +228,7 @@ static void identifycpu __P((void)); -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; +struct kva_md_info kmi; /* * Hooked into the shutdown chain; if the system is to be halted, @@ -248,13 +246,6 @@ cpu_startup(dummy) void *dummy; { - register unsigned i; - register caddr_t v; - vm_offset_t maxaddr; - vm_size_t size = 0; - vm_offset_t firstaddr; - vm_offset_t minaddr; - /* * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. */ @@ -281,6 +272,9 @@ } } + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); + +#if 0 /* * Calculate callout wheel size */ @@ -387,6 +381,7 @@ } mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +#endif #if defined(USERCONFIG) #if defined(USERCONFIG_BOOT) Index: alpha/alpha/pmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/pmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -r1.62 pmap.c --- alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.62 +++ alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:23:56 @@ -774,7 +774,7 @@ static PMAP_INLINE int pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) { - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) return 1; else return 0; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 16:56:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408EC37B401 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7KNu8I70016; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820233845.A23536@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > CD #1 needs to work. Installs should only need CD #1. Both CD's should be > > bootable, so you can boot off of disk 2 and go directly into fixit mode w/o > > having to swap CD's. > > Yes, exactly my idea. I never had a #2 CD before. I'm currently building > a new buildworld / release and I'll try to find out *what* it is that makes > #2 a GO and #1 a NO-GO. *cough* Disk1 has a /kernel && a /boot, but /boot only has: mathom.nas.nasa.gov > ls boot TRANS.TBL cdboot* loader* loader.rc The fixit CDROM (disk2) has the full complement of /boot, including defaults and Forth code, etc. It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement into disk1's /boot. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 18:57:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from k7.locore.ca (k7.locore.ca [198.96.117.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F2637B407; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jake@k7.locore.ca) Received: from k7.locore.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by k7.locore.ca (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7L1vAh10384; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:57:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jake@k7.locore.ca) Message-Id: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Matt Dillon Cc: John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code In-Reply-To: Message from Matt Dillon of "Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:40:08 PDT." <200108202340.f7KNe8l58236@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:57:10 -0400 From: Jake Burkholder Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This is what I was thinking in regards to rolling up the submap > initialization code, moving out of the MD section into the MI section. > This is for -current only and has not yet been tested, do not patch this > in. I'm looking mainly for feedback on things like the location of the > procedures, structure declarations, externs, and so forth. > > This patch includes the rollup for i386 and alpha. platforms that > haven't been rolled up will still compile just fine the old way (we > can roll things up piecemeal). > > -Matt > > Yay! I was just about to do almost exactly the same thing! Looks ok to me. I'll take care of the sparc64 changes. You might want to move some of the callout initialization to kern_timeout.c. > Index: vm/vm.h > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm.h,v > retrieving revision 1.18 > diff -u -r1.18 vm.h > --- vm/vm.h 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.18 > +++ vm/vm.h 2001/08/20 23:35:44 > @@ -113,4 +113,21 @@ > typedef struct vm_page *vm_page_t; > #endif > > +/* > + * Information passed from the machine-independant VM initialization code > + * for use by machine-dependant code (mainly for MMU support) > + */ > +struct kva_md_info { > + vm_offset_t buffer_sva; > + vm_offset_t buffer_eva; > + vm_offset_t clean_sva; > + vm_offset_t clean_eva; > + vm_offset_t pager_sva; > + vm_offset_t pager_eva; > +}; > + > +extern struct kva_md_info kmi; > +extern void vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi); > + > #endif /* VM_H */ > + > Index: vm/vm_init.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_init.c,v > retrieving revision 1.28 > diff -u -r1.28 vm_init.c > --- vm/vm_init.c 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.28 > +++ vm/vm_init.c 2001/08/20 23:34:35 > @@ -74,8 +74,12 @@ > #include > #include > #include > +#include > +#include > > #include > +#include > +#include > #include > #include > #include > @@ -119,3 +123,154 @@ > pmap_init(avail_start, avail_end); > vm_pager_init(); > } > + > +void > +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) > +{ > + vm_offset_t firstaddr; > + caddr_t v; > + vm_size_t size = 0; > + int physmem_est; > + vm_offset_t minaddr; > + vm_offset_t maxaddr; > + unsigned int i; > + > + /* > + * Calculate callout wheel size > + */ > + for (callwheelsize = 1, callwheelbits = 0; > + callwheelsize < ncallout; > + callwheelsize <<= 1, ++callwheelbits) > + ; > + callwheelmask = callwheelsize - 1; > + > + /* > + * Allocate space for system data structures. > + * The first available kernel virtual address is in "v". > + * As pages of kernel virtual memory are allocated, "v" is incremented. > + * As pages of memory are allocated and cleared, > + * "firstaddr" is incremented. > + * An index into the kernel page table corresponding to the > + * virtual memory address maintained in "v" is kept in "mapaddr". > + */ > + > + /* > + * Make two passes. The first pass calculates how much memory is > + * needed and allocates it. The second pass assigns virtual > + * addresses to the various data structures. > + */ > + firstaddr = 0; > +again: > + v = (caddr_t)firstaddr; > + > +#define valloc(name, type, num) \ > + (name) = (type *)v; v = (caddr_t)((name)+(num)) > +#define valloclim(name, type, num, lim) \ > + (name) = (type *)v; v = (caddr_t)((lim) = ((name)+(num))) > + > + valloc(callout, struct callout, ncallout); > + valloc(callwheel, struct callout_tailq, callwheelsize); > + > + /* > + * Discount the physical memory larger than the size of kernel_map > + * to avoid eating up all of KVA space. > + */ > + if (kernel_map->first_free == NULL) { > + printf("Warning: no free entries in kernel_map.\n"); > + physmem_est = physmem; > + } else { > + physmem_est = min(physmem, kernel_map->max_offset - > + kernel_map->min_offset); > + } > + > + /* > + * The nominal buffer size (and minimum KVA allocation) is BKVASIZE. > + * For the first 64MB of ram nominally allocate sufficient buffers to > + * cover 1/4 of our ram. Beyond the first 64MB allocate additional > + * buffers to cover 1/20 of our ram over 64MB. When auto-sizing > + * the buffer cache we limit the eventual kva reservation to > + * maxbcache bytes. > + * > + * factor represents the 1/4 x ram conversion. > + */ > + if (nbuf == 0) { > + int factor = 4 * BKVASIZE / PAGE_SIZE; > + > + nbuf = 50; > + if (physmem_est > 1024) > + nbuf += min((physmem_est - 1024) / factor, > + 16384 / factor); > + if (physmem_est > 16384) > + nbuf += (physmem_est - 16384) * 2 / (factor * 5); > + > + if (maxbcache && nbuf > physmem_est / BKVASIZE) > + nbuf = maxbcache / BKVASIZE; > + } > + > + /* > + * Do not allow the buffer_map to be more then 1/2 the size of the > + * kernel_map. > + */ > + if (nbuf > (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / > + (BKVASIZE * 2)) { > + nbuf = (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / > + (BKVASIZE * 2); > + printf("Warning: nbufs capped at %d\n", nbuf); > + } > + > + nswbuf = max(min(nbuf/4, 256), 16); > + > + valloc(swbuf, struct buf, nswbuf); > + valloc(buf, struct buf, nbuf); > + v = bufhashinit(v); > + > + /* > + * End of first pass, size has been calculated so allocate memory > + */ > + if (firstaddr == 0) { > + size = (vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr); > + firstaddr = kmem_alloc(kernel_map, round_page(size)); > + if (firstaddr == 0) > + panic("startup: no room for tables"); > + goto again; > + } > + > + /* > + * End of second pass, addresses have been assigned > + */ > + if ((vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr) != size) > + panic("startup: table size inconsistency"); > + > + clean_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &kmi->clean_sva, &kmi->clean_eva, > + (nbuf*BKVASIZE) + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); > + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, > + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); > + buffer_map->system_map = 1; > + pager_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->pager_sva, &kmi->pager_eva, > + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); > + pager_map->system_map = 1; > + exec_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &minaddr, &maxaddr, > + (16*(ARG_MAX+(PAGE_SIZE*3)))); > + > + /* > + * XXX: Mbuf system machine-specific initializations should > + * go here, if anywhere. > + */ > + > + /* > + * Initialize callouts > + */ > + SLIST_INIT(&callfree); > + for (i = 0; i < ncallout; i++) { > + callout_init(&callout[i], 0); > + callout[i].c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; > + SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, &callout[i], c_links.sle); > + } > + > + for (i = 0; i < callwheelsize; i++) { > + TAILQ_INIT(&callwheel[i]); > + } > + > + mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); > +} > + > Index: i386/i386/machdep.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c,v > retrieving revision 1.470 > diff -u -r1.470 machdep.c > --- i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/20 00:41:11 1.470 > +++ i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/20 23:36:28 > @@ -196,9 +196,8 @@ > /* must be 2 less so 0 0 can signal end of chunks */ > #define PHYS_AVAIL_ARRAY_END ((sizeof(phys_avail) / sizeof(vm_offset_t)) - 2) > > -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; > -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; > -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; > +struct kva_md_info kmi; > + > static struct trapframe proc0_tf; > #ifndef SMP > static struct globaldata __globaldata; > @@ -211,14 +210,6 @@ > cpu_startup(dummy) > void *dummy; > { > - register unsigned i; > - register caddr_t v; > - vm_offset_t maxaddr; > - vm_size_t size = 0; > - int firstaddr; > - vm_offset_t minaddr; > - int physmem_est; > - > /* > * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. > */ > @@ -248,6 +239,9 @@ > } > } > > + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); > + > +#if 0 > /* > * Calculate callout wheel size > */ > @@ -384,6 +378,7 @@ > } > > mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); > +#endif > > #if defined(USERCONFIG) > userconfig(); > Index: i386/i386/pmap.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c,v > retrieving revision 1.284 > diff -u -r1.284 pmap.c > --- i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.284 > +++ i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:10:49 > @@ -546,7 +546,7 @@ > static PMAP_INLINE int > pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) > { > - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) > + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) > return 1; > else > return 0; > Index: alpha/alpha/machdep.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v > retrieving revision 1.138 > diff -u -r1.138 machdep.c > --- alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/13 22:41:14 1.138 > +++ alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/20 23:39:42 > @@ -228,9 +228,7 @@ > > static void identifycpu __P((void)); > > -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; > -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; > -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; > +struct kva_md_info kmi; > > /* > * Hooked into the shutdown chain; if the system is to be halted, > @@ -248,13 +246,6 @@ > cpu_startup(dummy) > void *dummy; > { > - register unsigned i; > - register caddr_t v; > - vm_offset_t maxaddr; > - vm_size_t size = 0; > - vm_offset_t firstaddr; > - vm_offset_t minaddr; > - > /* > * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. > */ > @@ -281,6 +272,9 @@ > } > } > > + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); > + > +#if 0 > /* > * Calculate callout wheel size > */ > @@ -387,6 +381,7 @@ > } > > mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); > +#endif > > #if defined(USERCONFIG) > #if defined(USERCONFIG_BOOT) > Index: alpha/alpha/pmap.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/pmap.c,v > retrieving revision 1.62 > diff -u -r1.62 pmap.c > --- alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.62 > +++ alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:23:56 > @@ -774,7 +774,7 @@ > static PMAP_INLINE int > pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) > { > - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) > + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) > return 1; > else > return 0; > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 19:58:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3E137B409 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7L2wMA58573; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:58:22 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAQ/Install note for 4.4 Message-ID: <20010820195822.A58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:28:39PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:28:39PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Even better, figure out how to do a MAKEDEV of zs0 because the installer > doesn't do so. Are you sure? I thought I added that to the devices made. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 20:11:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 641AA37B40B for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7L3BIM58751; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:11:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: current looking better.. Message-ID: <20010820201117.B58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15233.20948.39510.132321@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010820113323.A3032@dragon.nuxi.com> <15233.22778.856424.794052@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15233.22778.856424.794052@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:37:46PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Excellent, thanks. I may try running a current alpha box as my > desktop.. I was not able to panic a kernel built from Aug 20, 2001 11:27 PST sources. This is the first kernel I could not panic one way or another since April. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 20:12:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415ED37B403 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7L3Cnu58790; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:12:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820201249.C58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010820113714.B3032@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010820133448.G39319-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820133448.G39319-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 01:35:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Try disk2.iso- that's what I booted. When it came time to install > > > from cdrom media, I swapped media. Isn't this how it's supposed to > > > work? There's no kernel on disk1! > > > > No. Disc #1 is all that is needed. > > No, currently Disc #2 is required as well. Move on. OK. Booting from the install CD is off my list of concerns. Moving on. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 20 20:15:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BE137B405 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:15:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7L3FRD58809; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:15:27 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010820201527.D58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010820233845.A23536@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 04:56:08PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 04:56:08PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Disk1 has a /kernel && a /boot, but /boot only has: /boot on the CDROM itself is not used for anything during booting or installing. The kernel file is an MFS root kernel. > The fixit CDROM (disk2) has the full complement of /boot, including defaults > and Forth code, etc. That is there for the "live FS" purpose -- ie, you can copy /boot from disc #2 to your / when you've trashed /boot. > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement > into disk1's /boot. It wouldn't be used. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 0:24:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54F737B415; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7L7O4E61056; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108210724.f7L7O4E61056@earth.backplane.com> To: Jake Burkholder Cc: John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Yay! I was just about to do almost exactly the same thing! : :Looks ok to me. I'll take care of the sparc64 changes. : :You might want to move some of the callout initialization to :kern_timeout.c. Ok, will do. I'll make the modifications, add the fixes as per Bruce, get the timeout init into kern_timeout.c, test, and commit it all tomorrow night. I ran out of time tonight. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 1:45:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242E37B403; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 01:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02372; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:44:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7L8iHM25504; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:44:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:44:17 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ/Install note for 4.4 Message-ID: <20010821104417.D25390@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820195822.A58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820195822.A58488@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 07:58:22PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 07:58:22PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 03:28:39PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Even better, figure out how to do a MAKEDEV of zs0 because the installer > > doesn't do so. > > Are you sure? I thought I added that to the devices made. You added them to MAKEDEV, I don't remember if install creates them for you. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 4:28:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FC537B403 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.137.2.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.137.2]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01443; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B82460B.7DA88A3F@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 04:29:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha problems on current References: <20010817081929.A2859@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010817152742.B437@cicely20.cicely.de> <9lje5o$24ra$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20010818172224.A4918@cicely20.cicely.de> <9ln48d$1ml6$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > > > - I'm seeing mysterious writes (kevent says NOTE_WRITE) to my > > > > > executables. I suspect this is a VM bug. > > > > Have you found a way to isulate when it happens? > > No. I wrote a little program that watches /bin/* through kevent(2), > but I'm uncertain how to trace this any further. The writes don't > appear to be related to any particular system activity, although > they possibly correlate with the amount of activity. Also, if I > don't run setiathome in the background I get far fewer writes. > > The only strange program crash I've seen so far has been an xlogout > dying with SEGV. What are you running in your crontab? There's a well known historical problem in VM that was often tickled by the copy on write that happens with the mmap'ed database file being modified; the Vixie cron program "updates" the record in place, which triggers this. It does the update on the (now incorrect) assumption that the pwent that it gets back is actually a pointer to a static data area in libc. I thought that this bug had been squashed a year ago, but it may be that it just went into hiding. On 3.x and early 4.x, it exhibited as a random write of a page worth of the database being spammed on top of a random file (usually, it spammed the crontab itself, but I've seen it spam other files, as well). As a hack, try killing cron, and see if it still happens; if it does, then you've at least eliminated my prime suspect. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 7:31: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208D37B406 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 15ZCYR-0006Yx-00; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:30:55 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7LDdJ237748 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:39:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: alpha problems on current Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9ltoa5$14h7$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20010817081929.A2859@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010818172224.A4918@cicely20.cicely.de> <9ln48d$1ml6$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <3B82460B.7DA88A3F@mindspring.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > I thought that this bug had been squashed a year ago, but > it may be that it just went into hiding. On 3.x and early > 4.x, it exhibited as a random write of a page worth of the > database being spammed on top of a random file I haven't noticed any writes to data files. They seem to be limited to executables. Also, the executables written to aren't actually modified. IIRC, the problem appeared in the time window July 13..26. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 7:46: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B8B37B405; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22987; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:45:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7LEjst26454; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:45:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:45:54 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Message-ID: <20010821164554.B26406@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010820233845.A23536@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820201527.D58488@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010820201527.D58488@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:15:27PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Rebuilding man page indices -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/share/man; make makedb makewhatis /usr/share/man makewhatis /usr/share/perl/man rm -rf /tmp/install.98590 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> elf make world completed on Tue Aug 21 13:33:07 GMT 2001 (started Tue Aug 21 10:36:30 GMT 2001) -------------------------------------------------------------- + touch /tmp/.world_done + cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall cd: can't cd to /usr/src/release/sysinstall *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/release. miata# Freshly checked out RELENG_4 Anybody seen this too? W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 8:48:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2317637B401; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05161; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200108202340.f7KNe8l58236@earth.backplane.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:35 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matt Dillon Subject: RE: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-Aug-01 Matt Dillon wrote: > This is what I was thinking in regards to rolling up the submap > initialization code, moving out of the MD section into the MI section. > This is for -current only and has not yet been tested, do not patch this > in. I'm looking mainly for feedback on things like the location of the > procedures, structure declarations, externs, and so forth. > > This patch includes the rollup for i386 and alpha. platforms that > haven't been rolled up will still compile just fine the old way (we > can roll things up piecemeal). Looks great! I've been wanting to do the same type of thing for a while. There's way too much MI code buried in sys/MACHINE/MACHINE still IMO. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 8:48:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601DD37B409 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA05189; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 08:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Wilko Bulte Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 20-Aug-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > >> > CD #1 needs to work. Installs should only need CD #1. Both CD's should >> > be >> > bootable, so you can boot off of disk 2 and go directly into fixit mode >> > w/o >> > having to swap CD's. >> >> Yes, exactly my idea. I never had a #2 CD before. I'm currently building >> a new buildworld / release and I'll try to find out *what* it is that makes >> #2 a GO and #1 a NO-GO. > > > *cough* > > Disk1 has a /kernel && a /boot, but /boot only has: > > mathom.nas.nasa.gov > ls boot > TRANS.TBL cdboot* loader* loader.rc > > The fixit CDROM (disk2) has the full complement of /boot, including defaults > and Forth code, etc. > > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement > into disk1's /boot. We don't use the 4th stuff for installation booting. Look at loader.rc, it doesn't include /boot/loader.4th, so none of the other stuff is needed. The loader.rc just loads a kernel and boots. > -matt -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 9:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEB337B409; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7LGX9463853; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108211633.f7LGX9463853@earth.backplane.com> To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RE: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization References: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : : :On 20-Aug-01 Matt Dillon wrote: :> This is what I was thinking in regards to rolling up the submap :> initialization code, moving out of the MD section into the MI section. :> This is for -current only and has not yet been tested, do not patch this :> in. I'm looking mainly for feedback on things like the location of the :> procedures, structure declarations, externs, and so forth. :> :> This patch includes the rollup for i386 and alpha. platforms that :> haven't been rolled up will still compile just fine the old way (we :> can roll things up piecemeal). : :Looks great! I've been wanting to do the same type of thing for a while. :There's way too much MI code buried in sys/MACHINE/MACHINE still IMO. : :-- : :John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ :PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc :"Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Maybe I'll take a pass at the MD/MI stuff in general before I try to get the VM mutexes working. Those are turning into a real bear - my roadmap is sound but I haven't had the time to really push into it. It may indeed not be complete until after 5.0 (what you or Jake thought would happen at the usenix kernel meeting). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 9:57:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4A437B401; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7LGvUI75461; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 09:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: John Baldwin Cc: Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010821095617.S23686-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > mathom.nas.nasa.gov > ls boot > > TRANS.TBL cdboot* loader* loader.rc > > > > The fixit CDROM (disk2) has the full complement of /boot, including defaults > > and Forth code, etc. > > > > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement > > into disk1's /boot. > > We don't use the 4th stuff for installation booting. Look at loader.rc, it > doesn't include /boot/loader.4th, so none of the other stuff is needed. The > loader.rc just loads a kernel and boots. I'm not as stupid as you seem to think. I'm suggesting that this would be a cheap thing to try to see if it solves this specific problem. *Then* you might have a chance finding where the breakage is more quickly. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 10:37:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D071937B401; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7LHaoC64628; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> To: Jake Burkholder Cc: John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Yay! I was just about to do almost exactly the same thing! : :Looks ok to me. I'll take care of the sparc64 changes. : :You might want to move some of the callout initialization to :kern_timeout.c. Ok, here is an adjusted patch. This compiles clean (for i386 anyway), but has NOT been tested yet. Specifically, I rearranged the caddr_t v address manipulation a bit. I'll be able to test and commit it to -current this evening. -Matt Index: alpha/alpha/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.138 diff -u -r1.138 machdep.c --- alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/13 22:41:14 1.138 +++ alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2001/08/20 23:39:42 @@ -228,9 +228,7 @@ static void identifycpu __P((void)); -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; +struct kva_md_info kmi; /* * Hooked into the shutdown chain; if the system is to be halted, @@ -248,13 +246,6 @@ cpu_startup(dummy) void *dummy; { - register unsigned i; - register caddr_t v; - vm_offset_t maxaddr; - vm_size_t size = 0; - vm_offset_t firstaddr; - vm_offset_t minaddr; - /* * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. */ @@ -281,6 +272,9 @@ } } + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); + +#if 0 /* * Calculate callout wheel size */ @@ -387,6 +381,7 @@ } mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +#endif #if defined(USERCONFIG) #if defined(USERCONFIG_BOOT) Index: alpha/alpha/pmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/pmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -r1.62 pmap.c --- alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.62 +++ alpha/alpha/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:23:56 @@ -774,7 +774,7 @@ static PMAP_INLINE int pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) { - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) return 1; else return 0; Index: i386/i386/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.472 diff -u -r1.472 machdep.c --- i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/21 07:20:06 1.472 +++ i386/i386/machdep.c 2001/08/21 07:21:52 @@ -198,9 +198,8 @@ /* must be 2 less so 0 0 can signal end of chunks */ #define PHYS_AVAIL_ARRAY_END ((sizeof(phys_avail) / sizeof(vm_offset_t)) - 2) -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; +struct kva_md_info kmi; + static struct trapframe proc0_tf; #ifndef SMP static struct globaldata __globaldata; @@ -213,14 +212,6 @@ cpu_startup(dummy) void *dummy; { - register unsigned i; - register caddr_t v; - vm_offset_t maxaddr; - vm_size_t size = 0; - int firstaddr; - vm_offset_t minaddr; - int physmem_est; /* in pages */ - /* * Good {morning,afternoon,evening,night}. */ @@ -250,6 +241,9 @@ } } + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); + +#if 0 /* * Calculate callout wheel size */ @@ -387,6 +381,7 @@ } mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +#endif #if defined(USERCONFIG) userconfig(); Index: i386/i386/pmap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c,v retrieving revision 1.284 diff -u -r1.284 pmap.c --- i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/07/27 01:08:59 1.284 +++ i386/i386/pmap.c 2001/08/20 23:10:49 @@ -546,7 +546,7 @@ static PMAP_INLINE int pmap_track_modified(vm_offset_t va) { - if ((va < clean_sva) || (va >= clean_eva)) + if ((va < kmi.clean_sva) || (va >= kmi.clean_eva)) return 1; else return 0; Index: kern/kern_timeout.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/kern/kern_timeout.c,v retrieving revision 1.69 diff -u -r1.69 kern_timeout.c --- kern/kern_timeout.c 2001/08/10 21:06:59 1.69 +++ kern/kern_timeout.c 2001/08/21 17:10:20 @@ -62,6 +62,55 @@ static struct callout *nextsoftcheck; /* Next callout to be checked. */ /* + * kern_timeout_callwheel_alloc() - kernel low level callwheel initialization + * + * This code is called very early in the kernel initialization sequence, + * and may be called more then once. + */ +caddr_t +kern_timeout_callwheel_alloc(caddr_t v) +{ + /* + * Calculate callout wheel size + */ + for (callwheelsize = 1, callwheelbits = 0; + callwheelsize < ncallout; + callwheelsize <<= 1, ++callwheelbits) + ; + callwheelmask = callwheelsize - 1; + + callout = (struct callout *)v; + v = (caddr_t)(callout + ncallout); + callwheel = (struct callout_tailq *)v; + v = (caddr_t)(callwheel + callwheelsize); + return(v); +} + +/* + * kern_timeout_callwheel_init() - initialize previously reserved callwheel + * space. + * + * This code is called just once, after the space reserved for the + * callout wheel has been finalized. + */ +void +kern_timeout_callwheel_init(void) +{ + int i; + + SLIST_INIT(&callfree); + for (i = 0; i < ncallout; i++) { + callout_init(&callout[i], 0); + callout[i].c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; + SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, &callout[i], c_links.sle); + } + for (i = 0; i < callwheelsize; i++) { + TAILQ_INIT(&callwheel[i]); + } + mtx_init(&callout_lock, "callout", MTX_SPIN | MTX_RECURSE); +} + +/* * The callout mechanism is based on the work of Adam M. Costello and * George Varghese, published in a technical report entitled "Redesigning * the BSD Callout and Timer Facilities" and modified slightly for inclusion Index: kern/vfs_bio.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c,v retrieving revision 1.285 diff -u -r1.285 vfs_bio.c --- kern/vfs_bio.c 2001/07/27 15:57:17 1.285 +++ kern/vfs_bio.c 2001/08/21 17:26:53 @@ -319,19 +319,73 @@ } /* - * Initialize buffer headers and related structures. + * Calculating buffer cache scaling values and reserve space for buffer + * headers. This is called during low level kernel initialization and + * may be called more then once. We CANNOT write to the memory area + * being reserved at this time. */ - caddr_t -bufhashinit(caddr_t vaddr) +kern_vfs_bio_buffer_alloc(caddr_t v, int physmem_est) { - /* first, make a null hash table */ + /* + * The nominal buffer size (and minimum KVA allocation) is BKVASIZE. + * For the first 64MB of ram nominally allocate sufficient buffers to + * cover 1/4 of our ram. Beyond the first 64MB allocate additional + * buffers to cover 1/20 of our ram over 64MB. When auto-sizing + * the buffer cache we limit the eventual kva reservation to + * maxbcache bytes. + * + * factor represents the 1/4 x ram conversion. + */ + if (nbuf == 0) { + int factor = 4 * BKVASIZE / PAGE_SIZE; + + nbuf = 50; + if (physmem_est > 1024) + nbuf += min((physmem_est - 1024) / factor, + 16384 / factor); + if (physmem_est > 16384) + nbuf += (physmem_est - 16384) * 2 / (factor * 5); + + if (maxbcache && nbuf > maxbcache / BKVASIZE) + nbuf = maxbcache / BKVASIZE; + } + + /* + * Do not allow the buffer_map to be more then 1/2 the size of the + * kernel_map. + */ + if (nbuf > (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / + (BKVASIZE * 2)) { + nbuf = (kernel_map->max_offset - kernel_map->min_offset) / + (BKVASIZE * 2); + printf("Warning: nbufs capped at %d\n", nbuf); + } + + /* + * swbufs are used as temporary holders for I/O, such as paging I/O. + * We have no less then 16 and no more then 256. + */ + nswbuf = max(min(nbuf/4, 256), 16); + + /* + * Reserve space for the buffer cache buffers + */ + swbuf = (void *)v; + v = (caddr_t)(swbuf + nswbuf); + buf = (void *)v; + v = (caddr_t)(buf + nbuf); + + /* + * Calculate the hash table size and reserve space + */ for (bufhashmask = 8; bufhashmask < nbuf / 4; bufhashmask <<= 1) ; - bufhashtbl = (void *)vaddr; - vaddr = vaddr + sizeof(*bufhashtbl) * bufhashmask; + bufhashtbl = (void *)v; + v = (caddr_t)(bufhashtbl + bufhashmask); --bufhashmask; - return(vaddr); + + return(v); } void Index: sys/buf.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/sys/buf.h,v retrieving revision 1.119 diff -u -r1.119 buf.h --- sys/buf.h 2001/08/20 00:41:12 1.119 +++ sys/buf.h 2001/08/21 17:25:30 @@ -513,7 +513,7 @@ struct uio; -caddr_t bufhashinit __P((caddr_t)); +caddr_t kern_vfs_bio_buffer_alloc __P((caddr_t v, int physmem_est)); void bufinit __P((void)); void bwillwrite __P((void)); int buf_dirty_count_severe __P((void)); Index: sys/systm.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/sys/systm.h,v retrieving revision 1.148 diff -u -r1.148 systm.h --- sys/systm.h 2001/08/10 06:37:04 1.148 +++ sys/systm.h 2001/08/21 17:25:20 @@ -208,6 +208,8 @@ void callout_handle_init __P((struct callout_handle *)); struct callout_handle timeout __P((timeout_t *, void *, int)); void untimeout __P((timeout_t *, void *, struct callout_handle)); +caddr_t kern_timeout_callwheel_alloc __P((caddr_t v)); +void kern_timeout_callwheel_init __P((void)); /* Stubs for obsolete functions that used to be for interrupt management */ static __inline void spl0(void) { return; } Index: vm/vm.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm.h,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 vm.h --- vm/vm.h 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.18 +++ vm/vm.h 2001/08/20 23:35:44 @@ -113,4 +113,21 @@ typedef struct vm_page *vm_page_t; #endif +/* + * Information passed from the machine-independant VM initialization code + * for use by machine-dependant code (mainly for MMU support) + */ +struct kva_md_info { + vm_offset_t buffer_sva; + vm_offset_t buffer_eva; + vm_offset_t clean_sva; + vm_offset_t clean_eva; + vm_offset_t pager_sva; + vm_offset_t pager_eva; +}; + +extern struct kva_md_info kmi; +extern void vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi); + #endif /* VM_H */ + Index: vm/vm_init.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_init.c,v retrieving revision 1.28 diff -u -r1.28 vm_init.c --- vm/vm_init.c 2001/07/04 16:20:27 1.28 +++ vm/vm_init.c 2001/08/21 17:33:48 @@ -74,8 +74,12 @@ #include #include #include +#include +#include #include +#include +#include #include #include #include @@ -119,3 +123,88 @@ pmap_init(avail_start, avail_end); vm_pager_init(); } + +void +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) +{ + vm_offset_t firstaddr; + caddr_t v; + vm_size_t size = 0; + int physmem_est; + vm_offset_t minaddr; + vm_offset_t maxaddr; + + /* + * Allocate space for system data structures. + * The first available kernel virtual address is in "v". + * As pages of kernel virtual memory are allocated, "v" is incremented. + * As pages of memory are allocated and cleared, + * "firstaddr" is incremented. + * An index into the kernel page table corresponding to the + * virtual memory address maintained in "v" is kept in "mapaddr". + */ + + /* + * Make two passes. The first pass calculates how much memory is + * needed and allocates it. The second pass assigns virtual + * addresses to the various data structures. + */ + firstaddr = 0; +again: + v = (caddr_t)firstaddr; + + v = kern_timeout_callwheel_alloc(v); + + /* + * Discount the physical memory larger than the size of kernel_map + * to avoid eating up all of KVA space. + */ + if (kernel_map->first_free == NULL) { + printf("Warning: no free entries in kernel_map.\n"); + physmem_est = physmem; + } else { + physmem_est = min(physmem, btoc(kernel_map->max_offset - + kernel_map->min_offset)); + } + + v = kern_vfs_bio_buffer_alloc(v, physmem_est); + + /* + * End of first pass, size has been calculated so allocate memory + */ + if (firstaddr == 0) { + size = (vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr); + firstaddr = kmem_alloc(kernel_map, round_page(size)); + if (firstaddr == 0) + panic("startup: no room for tables"); + goto again; + } + + /* + * End of second pass, addresses have been assigned + */ + if ((vm_size_t)((char *)v - firstaddr) != size) + panic("startup: table size inconsistency"); + + clean_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &kmi->clean_sva, &kmi->clean_eva, + (nbuf*BKVASIZE) + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); + buffer_map->system_map = 1; + pager_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->pager_sva, &kmi->pager_eva, + (nswbuf*MAXPHYS) + pager_map_size); + pager_map->system_map = 1; + exec_map = kmem_suballoc(kernel_map, &minaddr, &maxaddr, + (16*(ARG_MAX+(PAGE_SIZE*3)))); + + /* + * XXX: Mbuf system machine-specific initializations should + * go here, if anywhere. + */ + + /* + * Initialize the callouts we just allocated. + */ + kern_timeout_callwheel_init(); +} + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 10:59:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DB237B40C for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:59:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08649; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010821095617.S23686-100000@wonky.feral.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Aug-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: >> > mathom.nas.nasa.gov > ls boot >> > TRANS.TBL cdboot* loader* loader.rc >> > >> > The fixit CDROM (disk2) has the full complement of /boot, including >> > defaults >> > and Forth code, etc. >> > >> > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot >> > complement >> > into disk1's /boot. >> >> We don't use the 4th stuff for installation booting. Look at loader.rc, it >> doesn't include /boot/loader.4th, so none of the other stuff is needed. The >> loader.rc just loads a kernel and boots. > > I'm not as stupid as you seem to think. I'm suggesting that this would be a > cheap thing to try to see if it solves this specific problem. *Then* you > might > have a chance finding where the breakage is more quickly. Ahh, I misunderstood. I didn't think you were stupid (and don't think that in general) just perhaps temporarily confused. :) It may be that the 4th code does extra smarts with the filenames that the loader itself doesn't do, though arguably the support for handling these filenames should be in the cd9660 fs in libstand that the loader uses. > -matt -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 15:29:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8EC37B408 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7LMTq759811 for alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:29:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: patch OK for cpu.h ? Message-ID: <20010821152952.A59783@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Either i386 and sparc64 are wrong, or Alpha is. Index: cpu.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/include/cpu.h,v retrieving revision 1.13.2.1 diff -u -r1.13.2.1 cpu.h --- cpu.h 2000/05/24 14:20:58 1.13.2.1 +++ cpu.h 2001/08/21 22:26:30 @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ #define CPU_ADJKERNTZ 7 /* int: timezone offset (seconds) */ #define CPU_DISRTCSET 8 /* int: disable resettodr() call */ #define CPU_WALLCLOCK 9 /* int: indicates wall CMOS clock */ -#define CPU_MAXID 9 /* 9 valid machdep IDs */ +#define CPU_MAXID 10 /* number of valid machdep ids */ #define CTL_MACHDEP_NAMES { \ { 0, 0 }, \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 17:48:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.disney.com (mail.disney.com [204.128.192.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C713137B40B for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from pain10.corp.disney.com (root@pain10.corp.disney.com [153.7.110.100]) by mail.disney.com (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id f7M0lne03819 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.50.1] by pain.corp.disney.com with ESMTP for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:49:41 -0700 Received: from plio.fan.fa.disney.com (plio.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.118.2]) by pecos.fa.disney.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7M0sRs28384 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.fan.fa.disney.com (mercury.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.119.1]) by plio.fan.fa.disney.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA03492 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from snoopy.fan.fa.disney.com by mercury.fan.fa.disney.com for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:48:40 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jim Pirzyk Organization: Walt Disney Feature Animation To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:48:40 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So does anyone have XFree86-4.1.0 working on an alpha system? I have tried it on both 4.3-RELEASE and 5.0-CURRENT and on the 4.3 system it hangs the system. On Current, it sits there for a long time (5 minutes) trying to load the ati drivers and then errors out with saying: _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: File too large XFree86 4.1.0 is compiled from the ports tree on this system. - JimP -- --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.10 2001/05/17 23:38:49 Jim.Pirzyk Exp $ __o Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com ------------- pirzyk@freebsd.org _'\<,_ Senior Systems Engineer, Walt Disney Feature Animation (*)/ (*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 18: 9:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C510937B405 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13424; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7M18VC55193; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:08:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15235.1551.56300.544975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:08:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Jim Pirzyk Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 In-Reply-To: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Pirzyk writes: > So does anyone have XFree86-4.1.0 working on an alpha system? > I have tried it on both 4.3-RELEASE and 5.0-CURRENT and on the > 4.3 system it hangs the system. On Current, it sits there for > a long time (5 minutes) trying to load the ati drivers and then > errors out with saying: > > _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: File too large > > XFree86 4.1.0 is compiled from the ports tree on this system. > Yes, I'm using a UP1000 with an AGP Elsa Gloria Synergy as my primary desktop: <9:01pm>thunder/gallatin:~>uname -srm FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE alpha <9:01pm>thunder/gallatin:~>xdpyinfo | grep 'XFree86 version' XFree86 version: 4.1.0 Its been rock-solid. You might try putting CPUTYPE=ev56 in /etc/make.conf -- gcc tends to generate less buggy code when it can use the byte/word instructions that appeared with the ev56. I built a package (with CPUTYPE=ev56) for XFree86 and left it at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/XFree86-4.1.0_4.tgz quite a while ago. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 21: 9:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73B337B414; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7M498e71398; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108220409.f7M498e71398@earth.backplane.com> To: Jake Burkholder Cc: John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did some simple testing and comitted the rollup to -current. You should be good to go for the sparc, Jake. I didn't compile-test alpha but it should be fine. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Aug 21 21:58: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1A337B416; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7M4YVY07359; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:34:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200108220434.f7M4YVY07359@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: Peter Wemm Cc: Andrew Gallatin , John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" , imp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: today's kernel + JHB's trap.c patch is *evil* In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:02:18 PDT." <20010820080218.BF1123811@overcee.netplex.com.au> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:34:31 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I did turn off SMP though since it wedged the ahc scsi controller once. >It has been rock solid since then. Can you be more specific? Enquiring maintainers want to know... -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 0:30:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B8B37B40A; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7M7UTo65341; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:30:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matt Dillon Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code Message-ID: <20010822003029.A65089@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108220409.f7M498e71398@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108220409.f7M498e71398@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:09:08PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:09:08PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > I didn't compile-test alpha > but it should be fine. Is beast.freebsd.org down? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 0:41:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7F937B406; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.135.228.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.135.228]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7M7f6h27454; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B83623D.9DC45B93@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:41:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Dillon wrote: > -static vm_offset_t buffer_sva, buffer_eva; > -vm_offset_t clean_sva, clean_eva; > -static vm_offset_t pager_sva, pager_eva; > +struct kva_md_info kmi; You make this a non-static global... > + vm_ksubmap_init(&kmi); Then you pass it's address in... > +void > +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) > +{ And then use much more expensive pointer arithmatic... > + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, > + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); I understand that this is called once, but doesn't this really obfuscate things? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 7:56:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB1837B418; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7MEufD74609; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108221456.f7MEufD74609@earth.backplane.com> To: Terry Lambert Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> <3B83623D.9DC45B93@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Then you pass it's address in... : :> +void :> +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) :> +{ : :And then use much more expensive pointer arithmatic... : :> + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, :> + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); : :I understand that this is called once, but doesn't this :really obfuscate things? : :-- Terry I don't follow. The argument passing and pointer arithmatic is not expensive at all - in fact, it is less expensive then the original MD code if you look at the assembly output! And who really gives a damn about a few nanoseconds during boot anyway? kmi is static in the MD sections because it allows the kernel to compile for all platforms without us having to 'fix' all platforms all at once. One could also argue that the mainline kernel code has no direct need to know about the contents of kmi but that wasn't the main reason for doing it that way. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 8: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B61037B41C; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7MF0Mj74650; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108221500.f7MF0Mj74650@earth.backplane.com> To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108220409.f7M498e71398@earth.backplane.com> <20010822003029.A65089@dragon.nuxi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : :On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 09:09:08PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: :> I didn't compile-test alpha :> but it should be fine. : :Is beast.freebsd.org down? I'll have more time in the future to run parallel compiles but, generally speaking, compiling on beast (or on other platforms) is always going to be an afterthought to some degree. On the otherhand, if we could get some sort of official cross-compiling environment setup, I would be happy to do all of that on my local box. Then I wouldn't have to shove patchsets around. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 8:12:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web13402.mail.yahoo.com (web13402.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2EE4837B405 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal2@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010822151244.92364.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.241.30.123] by web13402.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:12:44 PDT Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:12:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Diego Montalvo Subject: FreeBSD Alpha disk.iso ready for 5305? 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Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --0-200890827-998493164=:92100-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 8:31:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AB137B418 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 15ZZxw-0002HI-01; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:30:48 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7MFQQh10303 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:26:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9m0iv1$9mo$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Pirzyk wrote: > So does anyone have XFree86-4.1.0 working on an alpha system? I use the XFree86 4.1.0_4 port on a PC164 with a Matrox Mystique card. Contrary to XF4.0, this works fine. xdm crashes whenever something connects to it, so you can't use it to manage X displays, but that problem has been around forever. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 9:26: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.disney.com (mail11.disney.com [208.246.35.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAD737B42B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from pain.corp.disney.com (pain.corp.disney.com [153.7.231.100]) by mail11.disney.com (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id f7MGp2t03459 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.50.1] by pain.corp.disney.com with ESMTP for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:26:44 -0700 Received: from plio.fan.fa.disney.com (plio.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.118.2]) by pecos.fa.disney.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7MGVbs08549 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.fan.fa.disney.com (mercury.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.119.1]) by plio.fan.fa.disney.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25394 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:25:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from snoopy.fan.fa.disney.com by mercury.fan.fa.disney.com; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:25:42 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim Pirzyk Organization: Walt Disney Feature Animation To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:25:42 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> <15235.1551.56300.544975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <15235.1551.56300.544975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01082209254200.47205@snoopy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 21 August 2001 06:08 pm, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Jim Pirzyk writes: > > So does anyone have XFree86-4.1.0 working on an alpha system? > > I have tried it on both 4.3-RELEASE and 5.0-CURRENT and on the > > 4.3 system it hangs the system. On Current, it sits there for > > a long time (5 minutes) trying to load the ati drivers and then > > errors out with saying: > > > > _LoaderFileToMem() read() failed: File too large > > > > XFree86 4.1.0 is compiled from the ports tree on this system. > > Yes, I'm using a UP1000 with an AGP Elsa Gloria Synergy as my primary > desktop: > > <9:01pm>thunder/gallatin:~>uname -srm > FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE alpha > <9:01pm>thunder/gallatin:~>xdpyinfo | grep 'XFree86 version' > XFree86 version: 4.1.0 > > Its been rock-solid. > > You might try putting CPUTYPE=ev56 in /etc/make.conf -- gcc tends to > generate less buggy code when it can use the byte/word instructions > that appeared with the ev56. > > I built a package (with CPUTYPE=ev56) for XFree86 and left it at > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/XFree86-4.1.0_4.tgz > quite a while ago. Hmmm, Tried that version and it hung on me again (under 4.3-RELEASE) Are you using the GENERIC kernel? I was not and this is my next test. I also forgot to mention that I have the ATI xpert 128 pci card in the system (with 16MB) of ram. I also get a 'beep' right after I do the 'X -probeonly'. - JimP -- --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.10 2001/05/17 23:38:49 Jim.Pirzyk Exp $ __o Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com ------------- pirzyk@freebsd.org _'\<,_ Senior Systems Engineer, Walt Disney Feature Animation (*)/ (*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 9:44:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B886737B40A for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00122; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7MGi8S57125; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15235.57688.52231.201459@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:44:08 -0400 (EDT) To: Jim Pirzyk Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 In-Reply-To: <01082209254200.47205@snoopy> References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> <15235.1551.56300.544975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <01082209254200.47205@snoopy> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Pirzyk writes: > Hmmm, Tried that version and it hung on me again (under 4.3-RELEASE) > Are you using the GENERIC kernel? I was not and this is my > next test. I also forgot to mention that I have the ATI xpert 128 > pci card in the system (with 16MB) of ram. I also get a 'beep' right > after I do the 'X -probeonly'. > I suspect that its not making it through the BIOS emulator in XFree86 -- ati cards are supposed to be especially bad at this. I've heard that some ATI cards don't even make it through the SRM console bios emulation code & are not usable as console devices. Can you use your graphics head as a console? Can you try a different card? Like a Permedia-2 based card (like the ELSA that DEQ ships w/their workstations) or a Matrox? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 9:51:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.disney.com (mail.disney.com [204.128.192.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E5A37B41B for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from pain10.corp.disney.com (root@pain10.corp.disney.com [153.7.110.100]) by mail.disney.com (Switch-2.0.1/Switch-2.0.1) with SMTP id f7MGoPe19735 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.50.1] by pain.corp.disney.com with ESMTP for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:52:17 -0700 Received: from plio.fan.fa.disney.com (plio.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.118.2]) by pecos.fa.disney.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7MGvBs12007 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.fan.fa.disney.com (mercury.fan.fa.disney.com [153.7.119.1]) by plio.fan.fa.disney.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA29015 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com) Received: from snoopy.fan.fa.disney.com by mercury.fan.fa.disney.com; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:51:16 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jim Pirzyk Organization: Walt Disney Feature Animation To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:51:15 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> <01082209254200.47205@snoopy> <15235.57688.52231.201459@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <15235.57688.52231.201459@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01082209511502.47205@snoopy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 22 August 2001 09:44 am, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Jim Pirzyk writes: > > Hmmm, Tried that version and it hung on me again (under 4.3-RELEASE) > > Are you using the GENERIC kernel? I was not and this is my > > next test. I also forgot to mention that I have the ATI xpert 128 > > pci card in the system (with 16MB) of ram. I also get a 'beep' right > > after I do the 'X -probeonly'. > > I suspect that its not making it through the BIOS emulator in XFree86 > -- ati cards are supposed to be especially bad at this. I've heard > that some ATI cards don't even make it through the SRM console bios > emulation code & are not usable as console devices. Can you use your > graphics head as a console? > > Can you try a different card? Like a Permedia-2 based card (like the > ELSA that DEQ ships w/their workstations) or a Matrox? I do use the card as a console device. I had picked this card because it was listed as a card that worked with the DRI on an alpha system, but maybe not with the version of the SRM that I have (I do have 5.5 on it). Maybe I should upgrade the SRM on the system. If all else fails, I do have a Matrox Millenium II card that I can try out. - JimP -- --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.10 2001/05/17 23:38:49 Jim.Pirzyk Exp $ __o Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com ------------- pirzyk@freebsd.org _'\<,_ Senior Systems Engineer, Walt Disney Feature Animation (*)/ (*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 10: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from directcommunications.net (mailgate.bridgetrading.com [62.49.201.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F90637B414; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ringtones@mobiledirect.uk.com) Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by directcommunications.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f7MGqQ332067; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:52:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hercules.bti.com: mail owned process doing -bs Received: by hercules.bti.com (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:45 +0100 Received: from mobiledirect.uk.com (aries.bti.com [10.54.1.1]) by directcommunications.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7MGiiU01504 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:44 +0100 Message-ID: <3B83E168.2090106@mobiledirect.uk.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:44:24 +0100 From: Mobile Ringtones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010817 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ringtones@mobiledirect.uk.com Subject: Ringtones and Logos Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------050200090204050702040306" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------050200090204050702040306 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit newlogo




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(freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28278; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7MHUim32072; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:30:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:30:44 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Diego Montalvo Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Alpha disk.iso ready for 5305? Message-ID: <20010822193044.A32043@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010822151244.92364.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010822151244.92364.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com>; from dmontal2@yahoo.com on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 08:12:44AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 08:12:44AM -0700, Diego Montalvo wrote: Matt has a few .iso test images on ftp.feral.com:/pub/outgoing Please consult the recent discussions on this mailing list about booting CDs, because we seem to be having problems there Wilko > Hello, > > I was wanting to know if the "disk1 & disk2.iso" for > booting an AlphaServer 5305 are ready? If so where can > I download. > > Thanks a bunch! > > Diego Montalvo > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 12:24:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837EE37B43B; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:23:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA19268; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:23:36 +1000 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 05:23:30 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Matt Dillon Cc: Terry Lambert , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , , Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code In-Reply-To: <200108221456.f7MEufD74609@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20010823051540.U15063-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > :Then you pass it's address in... > : > :> +void > :> +vm_ksubmap_init(struct kva_md_info *kmi) > :> +{ > : > :And then use much more expensive pointer arithmatic... > : > :> + buffer_map = kmem_suballoc(clean_map, &kmi->buffer_sva, > :> + &kmi->buffer_eva, (nbuf*BKVASIZE)); > : > :I understand that this is called once, but doesn't this > :really obfuscate things? > : > :-- Terry > > I don't follow. The argument passing and pointer arithmatic is not > expensive at all - in fact, it is less expensive then the original MD > code if you look at the assembly output! And who really gives a damn > about a few nanoseconds during boot anyway? > > kmi is static in the MD sections because it allows the kernel to compile global > for all platforms without us having to 'fix' all platforms all at once. Make it global in an MI section and it automatically implements it in all platforms at once (platforms that haven't been "fixed" simply don't use it). > One could also argue that the mainline kernel code has no direct need to > know about the contents of kmi but that wasn't the main reason for doing > it that way. I prefer keeping the variables separate like they used to be. There is even less need for them to be combined in a struct than there used to be, since centralizing the their initializations ensures that they are the same for all arches. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 12:55: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 322FC37B43F; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7MJsbd77448; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108221954.f7MJsbd77448@earth.backplane.com> To: Bruce Evans Cc: Terry Lambert , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , , Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <20010823051540.U15063-100000@besplex.bde.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Make it global in an MI section and it automatically implements it in all :platforms at once (platforms that haven't been "fixed" simply don't use it). The danger of this is that down the line someone might assume in MI code that the globals are initialized when, potentially, not all platforms initialize them. This way the MI code has no access to the global data that MD code is initializing and misuse in MI code sections will result in a compile-time error. There's nothing wrong with having MI structures that can be applied to multiple platforms but which are only used by MD routines. :> One could also argue that the mainline kernel code has no direct need to :> know about the contents of kmi but that wasn't the main reason for doing :> it that way. : :I prefer keeping the variables separate like they used to be. There is :even less need for them to be combined in a struct than there used to be, :since centralizing the their initializations ensures that they are the same :for all arches. : :Bruce All the fields are related. They belong in a structure rather then as free globals or free statics. And it makes it easier for the MD code to call the MI code. My opinion, anyway. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 13:23:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226DD37B42B; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA22126; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:22:41 +1000 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:22:35 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Matt Dillon Cc: Terry Lambert , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , , Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code In-Reply-To: <200108221954.f7MJsbd77448@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20010823060618.M15348-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > :I prefer keeping the variables separate like they used to be. There is > :even less need for them to be combined in a struct than there used to be, > :since centralizing the their initializations ensures that they are the same > :for all arches. > > All the fields are related. They belong in a structure rather then > as free globals or free statics. And it makes it easier for the MD > code to call the MI code. My opinion, anyway. Actually, they are even less related than at first appearance. buffer_sva, buffer_eva, pager_sva and pager_eva aren't really used. They are just places for throwing away the values returned indirectly by kmem_suballoc(). clean_sva and clean_eva are used in one place in pmap.c. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 13:39:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C0B37B425; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7MKdeW78135; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:39:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108222039.f7MKdeW78135@earth.backplane.com> To: Bruce Evans Cc: Terry Lambert , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , , Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <20010823060618.M15348-100000@besplex.bde.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :> All the fields are related. They belong in a structure rather then :> as free globals or free statics. And it makes it easier for the MD :> code to call the MI code. My opinion, anyway. : :Actually, they are even less related than at first appearance. :buffer_sva, buffer_eva, pager_sva and pager_eva aren't really used. :They are just places for throwing away the values returned indirectly :by kmem_suballoc(). clean_sva and clean_eva are used in one place in :pmap.c. : :Bruce Look, I don't want to get into a big argument. It makes sense to keep them together because they are related, and even though our existing platforms do not appear to need them I can see that changing in the future as we add more platform ports to the system. For example, having the pager range accessible could be advantageous for platforms that take TLB faults. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 13:55:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8804A37B412 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01137; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:55:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7MKtL733262; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:55:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 22:55:21 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jim Pirzyk Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4 and alpha DS10 Message-ID: <20010822225521.A33241@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <0108211748400B.25171@snoopy> <01082209254200.47205@snoopy> <15235.57688.52231.201459@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <01082209511502.47205@snoopy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01082209511502.47205@snoopy>; from Jim.Pirzyk@disney.com on Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:51:15AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 09:51:15AM -0700, Jim Pirzyk wrote: > On Wednesday 22 August 2001 09:44 am, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Jim Pirzyk writes: > > > Hmmm, Tried that version and it hung on me again (under 4.3-RELEASE) > > > Are you using the GENERIC kernel? I was not and this is my > > > next test. I also forgot to mention that I have the ATI xpert 128 > > > pci card in the system (with 16MB) of ram. I also get a 'beep' right > > > after I do the 'X -probeonly'. > > > > I suspect that its not making it through the BIOS emulator in XFree86 > > -- ati cards are supposed to be especially bad at this. I've heard > > that some ATI cards don't even make it through the SRM console bios > > emulation code & are not usable as console devices. Can you use your > > graphics head as a console? > > > > Can you try a different card? Like a Permedia-2 based card (like the > > ELSA that DEQ ships w/their workstations) or a Matrox? > > I do use the card as a console device. I had picked this card because > it was listed as a card that worked with the DRI on an alpha system, > but maybe not with the version of the SRM that I have (I do have > 5.5 on it). Maybe I should upgrade the SRM on the system. If all > else fails, I do have a Matrox Millenium II card that I can try out. SRM 5.5 is rather old. But Alphas can be picky as far as PCI cards go. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 20:19:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F2F37B406; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14289; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7N3JAe58797; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15236.30253.908143.849645@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Matthew Jacob , Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <20010820201527.D58488@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010820233845.A23536@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010820201527.D58488@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement > > into disk1's /boot. > > It wouldn't be used. I've just made release and burned cd1. I've emperically verified that copying over disk2's /boot doesn't work. There's just "something" about the FS that's causing the cd9660 code to freak out. One question to those who've booted cd2 (I only burned cd1, the cd-burner I have access to is at the other end of a 20Kb/sec link) -- are you certain that its booting /kernel? Or might it be booting /kernel.GENERIC FWIW, the cdboot on my disc1 seemed happy to load a kernel from a 4.3-release cd that I hot-swapped in after booting from disc1. This is frustrating as hell.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 20:26:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DF937B408 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7N3Q5I91948; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: my bootable CDs... In-Reply-To: <15236.30253.908143.849645@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David O'Brien writes: > > > It seems a quick and cheap thing to try is to put the full /boot complement > > > into disk1's /boot. > > > > It wouldn't be used. > > I've just made release and burned cd1. I've emperically verified that > copying over disk2's /boot doesn't work. There's just "something" > about the FS that's causing the cd9660 code to freak out. > > One question to those who've booted cd2 (I only burned cd1, the > cd-burner I have access to is at the other end of a 20Kb/sec link) -- > are you certain that its booting /kernel? Or might it be booting > /kernel.GENERIC From the 8200's console log: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-20010816-STABLE #1: Fri Aug 17 07:08:52 GMT 2001 root@nellie.feral.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS AlphaServer 8400 AlphaServer 8200 5/440, 437MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. > > FWIW, the cdboot on my disc1 seemed happy to load a kernel from > a 4.3-release cd that I hot-swapped in after booting from disc1. > > This is frustrating as hell.. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 23:19:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C0B37B40C; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.134.55.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.134.55]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7N6JFQ22355; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B84A08D.92864A27@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:19:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> <3B83623D.9DC45B93@mindspring.com> <200108221456.f7MEufD74609@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Dillon wrote: > I don't follow. The argument passing and pointer arithmatic is not > expensive at all - in fact, it is less expensive then the original MD > code if you look at the assembly output! And who really gives a damn > about a few nanoseconds during boot anyway? I was just thinking that, wherever possible, the reference should supply easy to understand C code that can be replaced by platform specific assembly versions, when necessary. The issue with the pointer pass is that it'll be a bit harder to code an assembly version on some platforms. I doubt we'll ever run on IBM big iron, where pointer arithmatic is nearly impossible, but you never know... > kmi is static in the MD sections because it allows the kernel to compile > for all platforms without us having to 'fix' all platforms all at once. > One could also argue that the mainline kernel code has no direct need to > know about the contents of kmi but that wasn't the main reason for doing > it that way. Uh, I complained that the declaration was _NOT_ static... that's what made the pointer reference to it so curious: it was already available as a global, so it didn't make sense why you were passing its address around, and then doing pointer math on it, instead of just referencing the elements directly. The use of descriptors in OpenSSL, particularly in the hardware acceleration code, and in the VFS (this latter could be made much simpler by sorting the VOP elements by descriptor order, and then using a direct dereference) are more expensive by far than a direct reference would be... if one were available. You can actually eliminate about 500 cycles out of the interface calls in OpenSSL by referencing the auto descriptor structure elements directly, instead of using the pointer to the descriptor substructure, to fill out the subcall specific descriptor fields, FWIW. Again, I don't expect this code to be used as often as the OpenSSL code is used (but the OpenSSL code could certainly stand fixing), but as a reference implementation it makes sense to keep it as simple as possible, while still getting the job done. Regards, -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 23:37:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F20537B40A; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7N6bKs83608; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108230637.f7N6bKs83608@earth.backplane.com> To: Terry Lambert Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> <3B83623D.9DC45B93@mindspring.com> <200108221456.f7MEufD74609@earth.backplane.com> <3B84A08D.92864A27@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : :Matt Dillon wrote: :> I don't follow. The argument passing and pointer arithmatic is not :> expensive at all - in fact, it is less expensive then the original MD :> code if you look at the assembly output! And who really gives a damn :> about a few nanoseconds during boot anyway? : :I was just thinking that, wherever possible, the reference should :supply easy to understand C code that can be replaced by platform :specific assembly versions, when necessary. The issue with the :pointer pass is that it'll be a bit harder to code an assembly :.. You lost me. This is one-time single-execution code. Unless you are planning on rewriting the entire FreeBSD OS in assembly there is no issue. :Uh, I complained that the declaration was _NOT_ static... that's :what made the pointer reference to it so curious: it was already :available as a global, so it didn't make sense why you were passing :its address around, and then doing pointer math on it, instead of :just referencing the elements directly. This isn't designed for general use. It's because there are two different source files in i386/i386 (blah/blah) that access the structure. Otherwise I would have happily made it static. I'm sure the extern is in the wrong place, but I believe Bruce is planning on fixing that. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 23:38:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1791E37B40C; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.134.55.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.134.55]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15482; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B84A51A.3BC5689F@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:39:22 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Bruce Evans , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <20010823060618.M15348-100000@besplex.bde.org> <200108222039.f7MKdeW78135@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Dillon wrote: > Look, I don't want to get into a big argument. It makes sense to > keep them together because they are related, and even though our > existing platforms do not appear to need them I can see that changing > in the future as we add more platform ports to the system. For example, > having the pager range accessible could be advantageous for platforms > that take TLB faults. For a MIPS or other processors where TLBs are done in software, using the pointer could get vastly more expensive than a global reference, if you had to look in there for every shootdown, and an LRU shootdown of at least one entry happened on nearly every context switch. As for keeping them together, I understand the desire to have them around for doing automatic limits calculations, but if that's going to happen, it should be that they are required to be initialized past a certain point on all platforms, or they are MD, and don't belong in an MI structure. I agree that they are related -- just that they are related by machine dependencies on a platform which isn't supported yet (I don't think we need to worry about Chris D. switching the Sibytes card away from NetBSD any time soon, for example 8-)). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 22 23:53: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E03E37B412; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) id f7N6r0E83692; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:53:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:53:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200108230653.f7N6r0E83692@earth.backplane.com> To: Terry Lambert Cc: Bruce Evans , Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <20010823060618.M15348-100000@besplex.bde.org> <200108222039.f7MKdeW78135@earth.backplane.com> <3B84A51A.3BC5689F@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : :Matt Dillon wrote: :> Look, I don't want to get into a big argument. It makes sense to :> keep them together because they are related, and even though our :> existing platforms do not appear to need them I can see that changing :> in the future as we add more platform ports to the system. For example, :> having the pager range accessible could be advantageous for platforms :> that take TLB faults. : :For a MIPS or other processors where TLBs are done in software, :using the pointer could get vastly more expensive than a global :reference, if you had to look in there for every shootdown, and :an LRU shootdown of at least one entry happened on nearly every :context switch. For the machine dependant code it IS a global reference, not that I think it matters much. Sure, on an R3000 with its 9-instruction TLB fault handler you might care, but on the later MIPS cpus with better hardware support for TLB miss handling? Not a big deal if the initial hash lookup fails. :that's going to happen, it should be that they are required to :be initialized past a certain point on all platforms, or they :are MD, and don't belong in an MI structure. Read the code. The MI portion of the system is making the information available to the MD portion of the system. There is no requirement or necessity that the MD portion of the system use all the available info, and no detriment either. And it makes no sense whatsoever to define the structure in MD code where it would have to be duplicated multiple times (some potentially with alterations if you are also trying to 'optimize' it), when defining it once as an MI structure makes the whole result easier to follow, understand, and document. I really don't give a damn if it eats 16 more bytes of bss for certain platforms. In short, the code is fine, and you complainer's need to take a bit more time to actually *read* it and think the problem through before making comments. In fact, so far, the only person who has taken the time to look at the code thoughly has been Bruce! -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 2:42: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37B737B409; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.134.55.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.134.55]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7N9fuQ18146; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B84D00C.AA0DDB5C@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 02:42:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Jake Burkholder , John Baldwin , freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Preliminary proposed rollup of kernel submap initialization code References: <200108210157.f7L1vAh10384@k7.locore.ca> <200108211736.f7LHaoC64628@earth.backplane.com> <3B83623D.9DC45B93@mindspring.com> <200108221456.f7MEufD74609@earth.backplane.com> <3B84A08D.92864A27@mindspring.com> <200108230637.f7N6bKs83608@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matt Dillon wrote: > :> I don't follow. The argument passing and pointer arithmatic is not > :> expensive at all - in fact, it is less expensive then the original MD > :> code if you look at the assembly output! And who really gives a damn > :> about a few nanoseconds during boot anyway? > : > :I was just thinking that, wherever possible, the reference should > :supply easy to understand C code that can be replaced by platform > :specific assembly versions, when necessary. The issue with the > :pointer pass is that it'll be a bit harder to code an assembly > :.. > > You lost me. This is one-time single-execution code. Unless you > are planning on rewriting the entire FreeBSD OS in assembly there > is no issue. It's a porting issue. There are several really nice things about the current FreeBSD when it comes to porting: 1) It can boot over the network, so you only need to get the network devices supported to get to single user mode. 2) It has devfs, which means that you can host the boot on a different machine if, like some machines, the machine is incapable of netbooting correctly from FreeBSD for some reason (without devfs, FreeBSD's use of additional bits in major/minor device numbers made it impossible to run over NFS or hosted on systems that didn't support creating device nodes on their local FS's with that many bots for the remote FreeBSD to use). 3) It's mostly not as arcane as a lot of systems (it has its strange moments during boot, though, particularly when bootstrapping the VM system and the console). Adding a fourth: 4) There are straight forward C equivalents for everything except what you _absolutely must_ do in assembly. Would be a terrifically nifty feature... Even if you're not interested in adding it, making it less straight forward to get to single user mode, even with C level performance suckage, is bad for getting new ports done. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 10:24:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4145137B409; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29533; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7NHOHu60495; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:16 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@freebsd.org, mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: bootable CD issue fixed! X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I've got a bootable ISO image & a real fix for the bootloader. See src/lib/libstand/cd9660.c rev 1.7 Can we get it MFC'ed ASAP? I'm uploading a bootable disc1.iso to http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/disc1.iso size = 166825984 MD5 (disc1.iso) = 7e2196ecc2e544130018b4f3fa724106 It should get there sometime in the next few weeks -- my cable modem's upload speed leaves a little to be desired. Drew PS: FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 (gallatin@thunder, Thu Aug 23 13:13:17 EDT 2001) Memory: 196608 k \ Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... /kernel data=0x5ea140+0x261a0 | Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b140... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-20010822-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 22 23:36:25 GMT 2001 root@thunder:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS Digital Personal Workstation (Miata) Digital Personal WorkStation 433au, 432MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 real memory = 199385088 (194712K bytes) avail memory = 185982976 (181624K bytes) <...> /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console These are the predefined terminal types available to sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the closest match for your particular terminal. 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. Your choice: (1-5) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 12:31:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C91637B403 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7NJUkI97751; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What'd you do to fix? On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I think I've got a bootable ISO image & a real fix for the bootloader. > See src/lib/libstand/cd9660.c rev 1.7 Can we get it MFC'ed ASAP? > > I'm uploading a bootable disc1.iso to > http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/disc1.iso > > size = 166825984 > MD5 (disc1.iso) = 7e2196ecc2e544130018b4f3fa724106 > > > It should get there sometime in the next few weeks -- my cable modem's > upload speed leaves a little to be desired. > > Drew > > PS: > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > (gallatin@thunder, Thu Aug 23 13:13:17 EDT 2001) > Memory: 196608 k > \ > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > /kernel data=0x5ea140+0x261a0 | > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b140... > Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.3-20010822-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 22 23:36:25 GMT 2001 > root@thunder:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS > Digital Personal Workstation (Miata) > Digital Personal WorkStation 433au, 432MHz > 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. > CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > real memory = 199385088 (194712K bytes) > avail memory = 185982976 (181624K bytes) > <...> > /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console > > These are the predefined terminal types available to > sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the > closest match for your particular terminal. > > 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. > 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. > 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). > 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). > > 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. > > Your choice: (1-5) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 12:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5526D37B40E; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7NJdxq02959; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010823123959L.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:39:59 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 66 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? - Jordan From: Andrew Gallatin Subject: bootable CD issue fixed! Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:24:16 -0400 (EDT) > > I think I've got a bootable ISO image & a real fix for the bootloader. > See src/lib/libstand/cd9660.c rev 1.7 Can we get it MFC'ed ASAP? > > I'm uploading a bootable disc1.iso to > http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/disc1.iso > > size = 166825984 > MD5 (disc1.iso) = 7e2196ecc2e544130018b4f3fa724106 > > > It should get there sometime in the next few weeks -- my cable modem's > upload speed leaves a little to be desired. > > Drew > > PS: > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > (gallatin@thunder, Thu Aug 23 13:13:17 EDT 2001) > Memory: 196608 k > \ > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > /kernel data=0x5ea140+0x261a0 | > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc000032b140... > Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.3-20010822-STABLE #1: Wed Aug 22 23:36:25 GMT 2001 > root@thunder:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS > Digital Personal Workstation (Miata) > Digital Personal WorkStation 433au, 432MHz > 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. > CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > real memory = 199385088 (194712K bytes) > avail memory = 185982976 (181624K bytes) > <...> > /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console > > These are the predefined terminal types available to > sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the > closest match for your particular terminal. > > 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. > 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. > 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). > 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). > > 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. > > Your choice: (1-5) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13: 9:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2D337B405; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:09:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04105; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7NK97a72557; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:09:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:09:07 -0400 (EDT) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu, obrien@freebsd.org, mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <20010823123959L.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010823123959L.jkh@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard writes: > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code currently, isn't it? FWIW, the original NetBSD code has the logic like this, I suspect that the '>=' --> '==' change was a typo when the file was re-formatted in rev 1.3. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13:13: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2057E37B405; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:13:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7NKCvI98372; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Jordan Hubbard , obrien@freebsd.org, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > > > > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code > currently, isn't it? > Yes. And when I MFC'd this, I was under the impression that this was a working item already in -current. Clearly this fixes a hole there, so that this will now fix a hole in -stable. Excellent. > FWIW, the original NetBSD code has the logic like this, I suspect that > the '>=' --> '==' change was a typo when the file was re-formatted in > rev 1.3. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13:16: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9203737B403; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7NKFRq03272; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010823123959L.jkh@freebsd.org> <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010823131527U.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:15:27 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 25 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds good to me then - will you MFC it? Thanks! - Jordan From: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:09:07 -0400 (EDT) > > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > > > > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code > currently, isn't it? > > FWIW, the original NetBSD code has the logic like this, I suspect that > the '>=' --> '==' change was a typo when the file was re-formatted in > rev 1.3. > > Drew > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBED37B406; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7NKGLq03292; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu, obrien@freebsd.org, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: References: <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010823131621I.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:16:21 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 34 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ah, THAT is part of what you fixed. Never mind on the MFC request to Drew then. :) Sounds like we're good to go! - Jordan From: Matthew Jacob Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > > > > > > > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code > > currently, isn't it? > > > > Yes. And when I MFC'd this, I was under the impression that this was a working > item already in -current. Clearly this fixes a hole there, so that this will > now fix a hole in -stable. Excellent. > > > FWIW, the original NetBSD code has the logic like this, I suspect that > > the '>=' --> '==' change was a typo when the file was re-formatted in > > rev 1.3. > > > > Drew > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13:22:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCEF37B405; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7NKMSI98502; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:22:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu, obrien@freebsd.org, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <20010823131621I.jkh@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No, Drew has MFC the fix he made to -current. On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Ah, THAT is part of what you fixed. Never mind on the MFC request to > Drew then. :) Sounds like we're good to go! > > - Jordan > > From: Matthew Jacob > Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! > Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > > > > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > > > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > > > > > > > > > > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code > > > currently, isn't it? > > > > > > > Yes. And when I MFC'd this, I was under the impression that this was a working > > item already in -current. Clearly this fixes a hole there, so that this will > > now fix a hole in -stable. Excellent. > > > > > FWIW, the original NetBSD code has the logic like this, I suspect that > > > the '>=' --> '==' change was a typo when the file was re-formatted in > > > rev 1.3. > > > > > > Drew > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 13:25:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E306337B405; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04604; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7NKOmQ72602; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:24:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15237.26256.627698.259007@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:24:48 -0400 (EDT) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: gallatin@cs.duke.edu, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! In-Reply-To: <20010823131527U.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010823123959L.jkh@freebsd.org> <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010823131527U.jkh@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard writes: > Sounds good to me then - will you MFC it? Thanks! OK, done.. Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 15: 5:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DA637B410; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24507; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7NM57C41756; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:07 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, mjacob@feral.com, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! Message-ID: <20010824000507.C40304@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15237.15424.932234.248939@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:24:16PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:24:16PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I think I've got a bootable ISO image & a real fix for the bootloader. > See src/lib/libstand/cd9660.c rev 1.7 Can we get it MFC'ed ASAP? YEAH!! libstand? Duh.. it does explain (somewhat) why hunting bugs in the loader itself did not work for me. Anyway, I'll build a test-release on my new DS10 ;) to see what gives here. Stay tuned. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 23 15: 6: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEF437B40D; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08832; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7NM5nN41776; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:05:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Jordan Hubbard , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, wkb@freebie.demon.nl, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! Message-ID: <20010824000549.D40304@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15237.25315.526631.442356@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:12:57PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:12:57PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > Jordan Hubbard writes: > > > Woohoo! What's your risk assessment for an MFC? > > > > > > > Fairly low, I think. The alpha is the only port that uses this code > > currently, isn't it? > > > > Yes. And when I MFC'd this, I was under the impression that this was a working > item already in -current. Clearly this fixes a hole there, so that this will > now fix a hole in -stable. Excellent. Makes a good point for a working -current to test things :) [runs for cover] -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 9:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maiatech.com (maiatech.com [204.246.250.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4656237B406 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from TECHY07.code-fu.com ([213.219.39.123]) by maiatech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7OGJCw17932 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:19:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> X-Sender: msmith@www.maiatech.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:15:51 +0100 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: install troubles right at the beginning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've done lots of FreeBSD/i386 installs and several Linux/alpha installs, but this is my first FreeBSD/alpha install. I've got a PWS433a that has run RedHat6.2, SuSE6.3 and SuSE7.0 (768MB RAM, SRM-bootable Tekram SCSI card). I can boot the FreeBSD/alpha 4.3 CD-ROM just fine. I partition my drive (using either the AUTO setting or my own settings), then I pick a "canned" distribution. When things start to write to the drive I get errors such as: Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 240640 bytes) and /mnt: write failed, file system is full I've tried it several times, using the basic, quick, and expert installs -- same errors each time. Ug. Any clues?? -- "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson -- Michael A. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 9:42:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (dsl092-013-169.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CEA37B406 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) id f7OGg8P87922; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:42:08 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Michael A. Smith" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: install troubles right at the beginning Message-ID: <20010824094207.B87889@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com>; from msmith@code-fu.com on Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 05:15:51PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 05:15:51PM +0100, Michael A. Smith wrote: > I can boot the FreeBSD/alpha 4.3 CD-ROM just fine. I partition my drive > (using either the AUTO setting or my own settings), then I pick a "canned" > distribution. When things start to write to the drive I get errors such as: > /mnt: write failed, file system is full The auto selection sizes might be too small now days. Can you report the size of your system disk and what sizes for /, /usr and swap you picked and the AUTO selection gave you for your machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 9:44:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maiatech.com (maiatech.com [204.246.250.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F7E37B401 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:44:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from TECHY07.code-fu.com ([213.219.39.123]) by maiatech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7OGmQw18631 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:48:26 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824174321.00ae6c10@www.maiatech.com> X-Sender: msmith@www.maiatech.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:45:10 +0100 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: Re: install troubles right at the beginning In-Reply-To: <20010824094207.B87889@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:42 2001-08-24 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: >On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 05:15:51PM +0100, Michael A. Smith wrote: > > I can boot the FreeBSD/alpha 4.3 CD-ROM just fine. I partition my drive > > (using either the AUTO setting or my own settings), then I pick a "canned" > > distribution. When things start to write to the drive I get errors such as: > > /mnt: write failed, file system is full > >The auto selection sizes might be too small now days. Can you report the >size of your system disk and what sizes for /, /usr and swap you picked >and the AUTO selection gave you for your machine. / 200MB swap 256MB /var 200MB /usr 8+GB With either the AUTO settings or my own, the disk full errors start with the writing of the first byte. -- "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson -- Michael A. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 9:51:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1551437B40B for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.245.139.146.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.139.146]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7OGpBb13920; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B868629.C64879BD@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 09:51:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > What'd you do to fix? He added a single, well-thought-out ">" sign. Outstanding, Andrew! This should be merged from -current *NOW*. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 10: 9: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A912737B406 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 10:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07828; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7OH8s246173; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:08:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:08:54 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Terry Lambert Cc: mjacob@feral.com, Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! Message-ID: <20010824190854.B46103@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B868629.C64879BD@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B868629.C64879BD@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:51:53AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:51:53AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > What'd you do to fix? > > He added a single, well-thought-out ">" sign. > > Outstanding, Andrew! > > This should be merged from -current *NOW*. read up on the commit mail. it was already merged: gallatin 2001/08/23 13:23:56 PDT Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) lib/libstand cd9660.c Log: MFC: rev 1.7 -- don't succeed in opening files that do not exist approved by: jkh -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 13: 1:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E7437B40C for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01886; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f7OK0gb81026; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15238.45674.743783.199295@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) To: "Michael A. Smith" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: install troubles right at the beginning In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael A. Smith writes: > I've done lots of FreeBSD/i386 installs and several Linux/alpha installs, > but this is my first FreeBSD/alpha install. I've got a PWS433a that has run > RedHat6.2, SuSE6.3 and SuSE7.0 (768MB RAM, SRM-bootable Tekram SCSI card). > There have historically been some problems installing on machines that used to run linux. I've never heard of of waht you're seeing before, but it might be related. I suspect there may be some problem with the disklabel on the drive you're attempting to install onto. Hmm.. Are these disks with msdos style fdisk partition tables? Did linux boot from arc(or milo) or the SRM when it was booting from this disk? Try blowing away the partition table on the disk you're going to install FreeBSD on by dd'ing /dev/zero over the first meg or so of it before you attempt to install. If you're still having problems, can you look on the other vty (alt-Fx, I think its F2) and see if any newfs failed? & report back exactly what you see? Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 13:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF0537B405 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakari@bithose.com) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7OKMlZ17844; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:22:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:22:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jameel Akari To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Michael A. Smith" , Subject: Re: install troubles right at the beginning In-Reply-To: <15238.45674.743783.199295@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Michael A. Smith writes: > > I've done lots of FreeBSD/i386 installs and several Linux/alpha installs, > > There have historically been some problems installing on machines that > used to run linux. I've never heard of of waht you're seeing before, > I suspect there may be some problem with the disklabel on the drive > you're attempting to install onto. Hmm.. Are these disks with msdos I had this problem trying to install DEC Unix 4.0 on a disk that had been fdisked with Linux. Disklabel would fail. I'd imagine *BSD could have a similar issue. > install FreeBSD on by dd'ing /dev/zero over the first meg or so of it > before you attempt to install. And I think that's how we eventually had to fix the problem (essentially completely destroy the old label / partition info.) -- Jameel Akari #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f $zig; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 13:56:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maiatech.com (maiatech.com [204.246.250.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E69137B407 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from apollo.code-fu.com (async83-15.nas.onetel.net.uk [212.67.111.83]) by maiatech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7OKxqw24826 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:59:52 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010824215246.00a105f0@www.maiatech.com> X-Sender: msmith@www.maiatech.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 21:57:30 +0100 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: Re: install troubles right at the beginning In-Reply-To: <15238.45674.743783.199295@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> <5.0.2.1.2.20010824170751.00a736f8@www.maiatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:00 PM 8/24/01 -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >I suspect there may be some problem with the disklabel on the drive >you're attempting to install onto. Hmm.. Are these disks with msdos >style fdisk partition tables? Did linux boot from arc(or milo) or the >SRM when it was booting from this disk? This is what we ended up thinking was going on, as well. After trying FreeBSD 4.2 a dozen times, I tried installing RedHat 7.1, just to see what would happen. Same basic problem -- gets through the setup stuff, when it starts writing to disk, it reports an error saying the disk might be full. This is after checking that there was a BSD disklabel (there was). So, I then tried to re-install SuSE 7.0 (which was running on it before). It installed perfectly. I *think* that SuSE 7.0 was the first OS ever installed on the drive. >Try blowing away the partition table on the disk you're going to >install FreeBSD on by dd'ing /dev/zero over the first meg or so of it >before you attempt to install. I'll give this a shot next week and tell you what happens! I would like to run FreeBSD on this baby. Thanks for the advice. -- "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson -- Michael A. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 24 22:47:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C49F37B407 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.136.102.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.136.102]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07690; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B873BE9.97C064AC@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:47:21 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: mjacob@feral.com, Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable CD issue fixed! References: <3B868629.C64879BD@mindspring.com> <20010824190854.B46103@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > What'd you do to fix? > > > > He added a single, well-thought-out ">" sign. > > > > Outstanding, Andrew! > > > > This should be merged from -current *NOW*. > > read up on the commit mail. it was already merged: > > gallatin 2001/08/23 13:23:56 PDT Your CVSup must run more often than mine; it didn't hit mine until it was updated. ...You'd think that if it had been merged already as far as everyone was concerned, my reply wouldn't have been necessary, since the person asking the question about what had changed would already have been replied to by you, and Jordan wouldn't have posted asking about whether it should be merged, or if it had a high impact. 8-p -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 25 2:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E9537B40B for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 02:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18482 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:40:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7P9eCE51834 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:40:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:40:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RFT: bootable .iso available for test Message-ID: <20010825114012.A51817@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Grr. Should have send this to -alpha of course. Sorry if you get a duplicate. Wilko ========== Hi I have put a freshly build 4.4-RC/Alpha .iso up for download on freefall. You can get it using: fetch -v http://freefall.freebsd.org/~wilko/disc1-nodoc.iso.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 wilko wilko 149947435 Aug 24 23:52 disc1-nodoc.iso.bz2 MD5 (disc1-nodoc.iso.bz2) = bb56aa31571dd9524b02951bfaba7a90 Un-bzip2-ed it is roughly 11Mbytes bigger. It was already treated by 'setcdboot' so a straight burn on a CDR[W] should work for you. For me it proved to be bootable on a MiataGL, I'm especially curious how 'big-iron' machines fare. This iso does not have the docs, I'm still getting heartburn over that issue :( Test status can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/testhw.html W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 25 10:48:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from admin.vt.com (admin.vt.com [204.117.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2590037B403 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diego@earthoid.com) Received: from earthoid.com (isdn.earthoid.com [204.117.188.113]) by admin.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07850 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:44:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B87E6AF.C7A8AD26@earthoid.com> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:55:59 -0500 From: Diego Montalvo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: 5305 and new Bootable CD failure.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have downloaded the new Bootable disk from http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/disc1.iso and have noticed, that AlphaServer 5305 is still not bootable from a: or cdrom: I try "boot dva0" and "boot dkc0" and it returns the following error.... halted CPU0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = 555555555555..... What am I doing wrong? Thank you, Diego To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 25 16: 6: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E1437B407; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iedowse@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from iedowse@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7PN3f656492; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iedowse) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 16:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108252303.f7PN3f656492@freefall.freebsd.org> To: madej@acn.pl, iedowse@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/19412: compiling kernel Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: compiling kernel State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: iedowse State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 25 16:01:50 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Temporary build failure; such problems are better reported on the mailing lists. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=19412 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 25 17:33:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9300C37B408 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01343; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:32:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7Q0Wv802254; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:32:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:32:57 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Diego Montalvo Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5305 and new Bootable CD failure.. Message-ID: <20010826023256.A2207@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B87E6AF.C7A8AD26@earthoid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B87E6AF.C7A8AD26@earthoid.com>; from diego@earthoid.com on Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 12:55:59PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 12:55:59PM -0500, Diego Montalvo wrote: Hhmm. I have a freshly built iso (generated yesterday) at http://freefall.freebsd.org/~wilko/disc1-nodoc.iso.bz2 Does that also cause the same problem? W/ > Hello, > > I have downloaded the new Bootable disk from > http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/disc1.iso and have noticed, that > AlphaServer 5305 is still not bootable from a: or cdrom: > > I try "boot dva0" and "boot dkc0" and it returns the following > error.... > > halted CPU0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 555555555555..... > > What am I doing wrong? Probably nothing Wilko > > Thank you, > > Diego > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message