From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 0:43:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from onizuka.vmunix.org (onizuka.vmunix.org [194.221.152.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F4B37B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 00:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from torstenb@vmunix.org) Received: from localhost (963 bytes) by onizuka.vmunix.org via sendmail with stdio (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:43:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: torstenb@vmunix.org (Torsten Blum) Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? In-Reply-To: "from Brad Knowles at Jul 15, 2001 00:32:48 am" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:43:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL82 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Knowles wrote: > I've turned into some more desktop images, but I'm wondering if > anyone here knows of any other sources -- I'm specifically looking > for things like the XB-70, the F-22 Raptor, X-32, X-35, YF-22, A-12, > SR-71, and other recent (and classic) high-tech/high-speed military > and/or experimental aircraft, Have a look at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center's Webserver: http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/. The gallery there contains a huge amount of high-res (2400x3325 and more) pictures. -tb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 14:34:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E2937B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6FLXvY11370; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:33:57 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:30:43 +0200 To: torstenb@vmunix.org (Torsten Blum), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 9:43 AM +0200 7/15/01, Torsten Blum wrote: > Have a look at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center's Webserver: > http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/. The gallery there contains a huge amount > of high-res (2400x3325 and more) pictures. Indeed, I found their website, and I've downloaded some good pictures of the HiMat and the SR-71 (and I'm looking at others), but I am still looking for photos of military experimental and research aircraft. -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 14:39:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7564C37B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22528; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010715153457.0514eb70@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:38:41 -0600 To: Brad Knowles , torstenb@vmunix.org (Torsten Blum), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? In-Reply-To: References:

Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:46 PM 7/15/2001, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >You must be running -CURRENT having such an urge to find >`experimental' backgrounds for your desktops, aren't you? :P Or Windows "XP" (the designation used, at one time, for experimental fighter planes). --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 17:23:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A897737B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6G0NdY27162; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:23:39 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:17:02 +0200 To: Rick Hamell From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 3:25 PM -0700 7/15/01, Rick Hamell wrote: > The Lockheedmartin.com web site use to have some too. :) Yeah, I pulled a few off the lmaeronautics.com website. However, I primarily had to work with the "press release" pictures, because the others in the image gallery were too low-res. Unfortunately, many of their best are available only in low-res. I've just gotten through pulling down 22 hi-res pictures (mostly 5-7MB, 3000x2500 JPEG, and one 13.8MB 4000x3000 JPEG) pictures of the SR-71 from the NASA Dryden Research Facility page at . I managed to get ten that I could turn into desktops, some of which are truly outstanding. I still have to go through the X-plane images they have, and all the other multitudes of pictures they have (including the XB-70, the Russian SST, etc...). Wow. Truly amazing. Probably one of the best archives I've found yet. And I pulled a few off the Boeing website, too. But, I'm still looking for more! -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 17:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4559A37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6G0NfY27215; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:23:42 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010716014652.A17898@hades.hell.gr> References: <20010716014652.A17898@hades.hell.gr> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:17:59 +0200 To: Giorgos Keramidas From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Cc: Torsten Blum , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1:46 AM +0300 7/16/01, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > You must be running -CURRENT having such an urge to find > `experimental' backgrounds for your desktops, aren't you? :P Indeed, I expect to be pretty current, just as soon as MacOS X 10.1 ships (presumably in a couple of weeks at MacWorld New York). ;-) -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 18:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA0237B406 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@1nova.com) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 86EE418DC; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2FC18DB; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I still have to go through the X-plane images they have, and all > the other multitudes of pictures they have (including the XB-70, the > Russian SST, etc...). Wow. Truly amazing. Probably one of the best > archives I've found yet. > > > And I pulled a few off the Boeing website, too. But, I'm still > looking for more! Hm... what the name of the other big air/space firm? McDonnel-Douglas? Also, have you looked into the European and Russian space programs? :) Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jul 15 20:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166AD37B401; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D34966ACC1; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:11:54 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:11:54 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Peter Wemm Cc: Warner Losh , John Baldwin , FreeBSD Chat Subject: Outdoing peter (was: cvs commit: src/sys/pccard pcic_pci.c) Message-ID: <20010716131154.Q24152@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200107160335.f6G3Z8o30481@harmony.village.org> <20010716033846.1B29F380B@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010716033846.1B29F380B@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 08:38:46PM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 15 July 2001 at 20:38:46 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > Warner Losh wrote: >> In message John Baldwin writes: >>> >>> On 10-Jul-01 Warner Losh wrote: >>>> imp 2001/07/09 21:43:21 PDT >>>> >>>> Modified files: >>>> sys/pccard pcic_pci.c >>>> Log: >>>> Use INTR_TYPE_AV rather than INTR_TYPE_MISC for the interrupt for >>>> pci interrupts for the bridge. >>> >>> A PCI bridge isn't really an audio/video device. Perhaps we need a new >>> interrupt priority level for bridges? :) >> >> INTR_TYPE_HIGHEST is what I want. But I also want the ability to drop >> my priority down while I call my child device's interrupt. I'll chat >> more about this when I get back from New Mexico and my internet >> connection is once again better than 56kbaud with a 400ms ping time. > > My connection from .au was better: 28.8k with 1500-2500ms ping. :-) Ah, the good old days. === grog@wantadilla (/dev/ttyp5) ~/oldstuff 657 -> ping freefall.freebsd.org PING freefall.freebsd.org (216.136.204.21): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 216.136.204.21: icmp_seq=0 ttl=55 time=5032.787 ms 64 bytes from 216.136.204.21: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=4705.013 ms 64 bytes from 216.136.204.21: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=4393.415 ms 64 bytes from 216.136.204.21: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=4458.761 ms Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 0: 9:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BD837B405 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6G79iY12693; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:09:45 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:06:37 +0200 To: Rick Hamell From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 6:13 PM -0700 7/15/01, Rick Hamell wrote: > Hm... what the name of the other big air/space > firm? McDonnel-Douglas? Also, have you looked into the European and > Russian space programs? :) McDonnell-Douglas has since been bought by Boeing (for a measly $15 billion, after their third entry to the Joint Strike Fighter program was rejected, leaving only Boeing and Lockheed-Martin). I have not yet checked into the European or Russian aviation companies, but I do plan on doing so. Any suggestions on which web sites to start with? -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 1:43: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mooseriver.com (superior.mooseriver.com [205.166.121.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDD037B405 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f6G8gtS56179 for chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:42:55 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: NNTP service Message-ID: <20010716014255.A56165@mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for an ISP or a service provider running FreeBSD for NNTP access. Something not too expensive. Anyone know of one? Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 4.3 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | www.bafug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 2:15:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sublime.efs.org (dt022ne1.san.rr.com [204.210.11.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F026037B403 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@efs.org) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by sublime.efs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6G9Ej717599; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@efs.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sublime.efs.org: matt owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 02:14:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Wilbur To: Brad Knowles Cc: Rick Hamell , Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may find some good stuff here, although its more operationally oriented.. http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Operations/AlliedForce/ -Matt On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:13 PM -0700 7/15/01, Rick Hamell wrote: > > > Hm... what the name of the other big air/space > > firm? McDonnel-Douglas? Also, have you looked into the European and > > Russian space programs? :) > > McDonnell-Douglas has since been bought by Boeing (for a measly > $15 billion, after their third entry to the Joint Strike Fighter > program was rejected, leaving only Boeing and Lockheed-Martin). > > I have not yet checked into the European or Russian aviation > companies, but I do plan on doing so. Any suggestions on which web > sites to start with? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 4: 9:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7A237B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 04:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6GB9QY07770; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:09:26 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> References: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:09:14 +0200 To: Matt Wilbur From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Cc: Rick Hamell , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2:14 AM -0700 7/16/01, Matt Wilbur wrote: > You may find some good stuff here, although its more operationally > oriented.. > > http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Operations/AlliedForce/ There were a few good photos in here, mostly taken from refueling tankers, as the aircraft were coming in or leaving. I found a couple under some of the other operations, and I also got one of the Pentagon itself. Man, it's scary to think of how close the south loading dock is to the building, and how easy it would be to roll up there with a semi tractor-trailer full of ANFO or C-4 -- Talk about making the Frederick P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City look like a kindergarten playground.... -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 10:57:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from seven.alameda.net (seven.alameda.net [63.86.88.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D4F37B405 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@seven.alameda.net) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by seven.alameda.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f6GHwmq29179 for chat@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:58:48 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: For people in the SF Bay Area: selling a few external harddisk cases Message-ID: <20010716105848.G52033@seven.alameda.net> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone. I got a bunch of external 3.5" Half Height wide SCSI cases for sale. They all have a harddisk in it (sizes I have seen so far range from 1.5gb to 9GB). Most cases are the Kingston DS60-S1W, which retail around $100 or so. If anyone is interested in buying some, I am selling them for $60 incl. the harddisk installed. Can either be picked up in Alameda or at the BAFUG meeting thursdays. -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 CCNA, CCNP now, CCIE hopeful soon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 19:41:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net [207.44.96.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B25137B408 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:38:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tms2@mail.ptd.net) Received: (qmail 981 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 02:38:55 -0000 Received: from mail1.ha-net.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([207.44.96.65]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2001 02:38:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 5456 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 02:38:54 -0000 Received: from du133.cli.ptd.net (HELO mail.ptd.net) ([204.186.33.133]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jul 2001 02:38:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3B53A457.6F99DAB5@mail.ptd.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:35:03 -0400 From: "Thomas M. Sommers" Organization: None X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? References: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Knowles wrote: > > There were a few good photos in here, mostly taken from refueling > tankers, as the aircraft were coming in or leaving. I found a couple > under some of the other operations, and I also got one of the > Pentagon itself. > > Man, it's scary to think of how close the south loading dock is > to the building, and how easy it would be to roll up there with a > semi tractor-trailer full of ANFO or C-4 -- Talk about making the > Frederick P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City look like a > kindergarten playground.... If by the loading dock you mean the white-roofed thing on the right in this picture (which would be the south-east side): http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Apr1998/DF-ST-87-06962.html that is the bus terminal, with the subway station below. The actual loading docks are in the building, on the side of the building facing the viewer (the south-west). If you look toward the right of that side, you can see the exits of the tunnels that run under the south-east side. Until the early 80s, DoD busses used those tunnels. Directly above those tunnels, and running along that entire side of the building is (or at least was; I haven't been there in years) a shopping mall, which is accessible to the public via the bus and subway stations. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 16 23:55:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BB637B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6H6t4Y22628; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:55:04 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B53A457.6F99DAB5@mail.ptd.net> References: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> <3B53A457.6F99DAB5@mail.ptd.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:50:17 +0200 To: "Thomas M. Sommers" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:35 PM -0400 7/16/01, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > If by the loading dock you mean the white-roofed thing on the right in > this picture (which would be the south-east side): > > http://www.defenselink.mil/photos/Apr1998/DF-ST-87-06962.html > > that is the bus terminal, with the subway station below. I am aware of this. I worked in the building between 1989 & 1995. For the early years, I came in by bus, and later I came in by Metrorail (for which the entrance is right below the bus station). > The actual > loading docks are in the building, on the side of the building facing > the viewer (the south-west). Right. And so-called "South Parking" is the parking lot in front of the building (from the viewers perspective). > If you look toward the right of that side, > you can see the exits of the tunnels that run under the south-east > side. Until the early 80s, DoD busses used those tunnels. They may have been tunnels back then. When I was there, they had an entrance on the side of the building into the interior, where people with special handicapped parking permits could go and park between certain rings, and where the contractors would enter if they needed to go to the center court (a.k.a., "Ground Zero"). Now, if you think a semi loaded with ANFO or C-4 at the South Loading Dock is a scary concept, try a panel van loaded with ANFO or C-4, parked right outside the NMCC, DIA, or other secured facilities within the building. > Directly > above those tunnels, and running along that entire side of the building > is (or at least was; I haven't been there in years) a shopping mall, > which is accessible to the public via the bus and subway stations. At the time I was there, the interior shopping mall was accessible only to people with building passes. However, during the early years the interior drug store used to stock large butane lighter refilling cannisters (primarily for all the high-ranked military and civilian officials that smoked pipes and cigars), easily enough to take out an entire office if you left one sitting on a coffee pot burner after you left. Later, they removed the butane refiller cannisters, but they still didn't bother checking the bags of anyone who entered or left the building with a pass, so you could easily come in with a briefcase of C-4, Semtex, or other plastique (or walk out with a briefcase full of highly classified documents). Indeed, I once saw the Soviet military attach=E9 come in, and was surprised to see that he had his own Pentagon building pass. Those building passes would take a twelve year-old kid about five minutes to duplicate. That's one of the reasons why I made damn sure that I turned in all my badges, so that if there was ever a problem that they would be less likely to potentially blame me. -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key =3D "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 17 4:31:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC9E37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 04:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiggy@wopr.akitanet.co.uk) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-201.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.201] helo=wopr.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15MT3F-000Jg9-00; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:30:05 +0100 Received: from wiggy by wopr.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.21 #2) id 15MT3Q-000EIb-00; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:30:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:30:16 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Brad Knowles Cc: "Thomas M. Sommers" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Message-ID: <20010717123016.K27087@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> <3B53A457.6F99DAB5@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 08:50:17AM +0200 X-Scanner: exiscan *15MT3F-000Jg9-00*$AK$ARoytTKrxy.AFSFqEtRt20* Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jul 17, Brad Knowles wrote: > However, during the early years the interior drug store used to > stock large butane lighter refilling cannisters (primarily for all > the high-ranked military and civilian officials that smoked pipes and > cigars), easily enough to take out an entire office if you left one > sitting on a coffee pot burner after you left. Sorry, I just have to clarfiy something. Are you stating that leaving a cannister of butane on a coffee pot burner would be a deliberate and malicious act, or is this sort of behaviour common in the US? It sounds a tad dangerous to me. :-) Just the way it was worded looked a bit odd. As though leaving it on a coffee pot burner would be "an easy mistake to make". -- Paul Robinson ,--------------------------------------- Technical Director @ Akita | A computer lets you make more mistakes PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | than any other invention with the T: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 (F:6389)| possible exceptions of handguns and | Tequila - Mitch Ratcliffe `----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 17 9:48:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9215D37B403 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:48:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f6HGkkO23051; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:46:47 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010717123016.K27087@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <20010716021314.X17597-100000@sublime.efs.org> <3B53A457.6F99DAB5@mail.ptd.net> <20010717123016.K27087@jake.akitanet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:40:00 +0200 To: Paul Robinson From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Neat aerospace desktop background images? Cc: "Thomas M. Sommers" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:30 PM +0100 7/17/01, Paul Robinson wrote: > Sorry, I just have to clarfiy something. Are you stating that leaving a > cannister of butane on a coffee pot burner would be a deliberate and > malicious act, or is this sort of behaviour common in the US? It sounds a > tad dangerous to me. :-) No, I'm talking about someone doing it as an intentional act of destruction (or even terrorism), with the presumed intent to cause harm, confusion, chaos, etc.... -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jul 17 14:38:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.newgold.net (aphex.newgold.net [209.42.222.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7804237B405 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmallett@newgold.net) Received: (qmail 43558 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Jul 2001 21:37:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 21:37:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:37:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Mallett To: Cc: Subject: Re: Internet systems 195 pounds In-Reply-To: <50va2x1o.0y8p5x0@www.torch.net> Message-ID: <20010717213720.J43487-100000@Aphex.NewGold.NET> Organization: xMach Core Team [ http://www.xMach.org/ ] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can buy the internet for UKP 195? SIGN ME UP! On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 zxc1@ic24.net wrote: > Branded PENTIUM Computer systems WITH Internet , only =A3195. Call wi= th your fax number and we`ll gladly fax you details....0207 644 3404 > -- Joseph A. Mallett http://srcsys.org xMach Core Team, www.xMach.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 20 6:42:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6DE137B401; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiredbrain@earthlink.net) Received: from pflaump (sdn-ar-001flhhilP292.dialsprint.net [168.191.68.30]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA24842; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001501c1111d$15b6a660$1e44bfa8@pflaump> Reply-To: "Peter Pflaum" From: "Peter Pflaum" To: Subject: Panel Argues for Changing Social Security Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:01:45 -0400 Organization: GlobalVillage Schools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C110FA.9A6281E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C110FA.9A6281E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0009_01C110FA.9A6BA9A0" ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C110FA.9A6BA9A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Bush commission's report said the key date was 2016. That is when = payroll tax revenues flowing into Social Security from workers and = employers will fall short of benefit payments for the first time. At = that point, the system will begin relying in part on interest payments = from its vast holdings of government bonds - the Social Security trust = fund. But the bonds and the interest on them are nothing more than commitments = by the government to help pay future benefits out of general tax = revenues, meaning that Social Security will begin to impinge on the rest = of the budget. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/20/politics/20SOCI.html Now if those "trust funds" were invested in other than IOU's from the = Government to the Government they could earn more and be real. = Individual accounts are much more complex - alternative investments = could include foreign bonds which would help the balance of payments - = Bank CD would add to domestic savings and lower interest rates , index = funds are not the only investment alternative.=20 http://www.wiredbrain.com/public-policy.htm suggests a Federal Assets = Management Agency - like other pension funds. If the surplus now coming = into the trust funds over the next 10 years were used to create a real = reserve fund - several trillion dollars would be in the fund. It would = remove the temptation to spend theses funds and have real earning = (compound interest) added to them.=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C110FA.9A6BA9A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Bush commission's report said the key date was 2016. That is when = payroll=20 tax revenues flowing into Social Security from workers and employers = will fall=20 short of benefit payments for the first time. At that point, the system = will=20 begin relying in part on interest payments from its vast holdings of = government=20 bonds =97 the Social Security trust fund.

But the bonds and the interest on them are nothing more than = commitments by=20 the government to help pay future benefits out of general tax revenues, = meaning=20 that Social Security will begin to impinge on the rest of the=20 budget.

http://ww= w.nytimes.com/2001/07/20/politics/20SOCI.html

Now if those "trust funds" = were invested=20 in other than IOU's from the Government to the Government they could = earn more=20 and be real. Individual accounts are much more complex - = alternative=20 investments could include foreign bonds which would help the balance of = payments=20 - Bank CD would add to domestic savings and lower interest rates , index = funds=20 are not the only investment alternative.

http://www.wiredbrai= n.com/public-policy.htm=20 suggests a Federal Assets Management Agency - like other pension funds. = If the=20 surplus now coming into the trust funds over the next 10 years were used = to=20 create a real reserve fund - several trillion dollars would be in the = fund. It=20 would remove the temptation to spend theses funds and have real earning=20 (compound interest) added to them.

------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C110FA.9A6BA9A0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C110FA.9A6281E0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Panel Argues for Changing Social Security.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Panel Argues for Changing Social Security.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/20/politics/20SOCI.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/20/politics/20SOCI.html Modified=406D07661611C10103 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C110FA.9A6281E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 20 6:42:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE4D37B41A; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:42:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiredbrain@earthlink.net) Received: from pflaump (sdn-ar-001flhhilP292.dialsprint.net [168.191.68.30]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA11407; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001601c1111d$7c9be5c0$1e44bfa8@pflaump> Reply-To: "Peter Pflaum" From: "Peter Pflaum" To: "The Rev. John Liebler" References: Subject: Re: CNN.com - Sen. Frist backs embryonic stem cell research - July 19, 2001 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:03:27 -0400 Organization: GlobalVillage Schools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Rev. John Liebler" To: "Peter Pflaum" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: CNN.com - Sen. Frist backs embryonic stem cell research - July 19, 2001 > These seem reasonable enough, don't they? No maybe 8 of the 10 but these rules come from transplants of the spare parts of brain dead people to others that need them. It assumes that all human living matter, protoplasm, bioplasm, ectoplasm, tissue, living tissue macromolecule, bioplast cell, unicellular organism, have a soul, spirit - true of frogs and fish and our poodles ? How about blood donors ? The problems is with No. 2 - we can use them but we can't be involved with derivation -but can use them. The goal here is to produce cells on a large scale that will replace ones that are not working - cloning of cells not people ( putting DNA from the patient into the cells so they fit better ) many cells lines need to exist because these cells reproduce endlessly while adult cells do not. BUT we can agree on this and move on. As soon as there are active treatments for major problems it can't be put back in the bottle. America is not the world and it will spread at the speed of light. I don't know how the drug companies will control cells but they will figure out a way. > > A senior aide to Frist outlined 10 conditions on which his support is based: > -- A ban on the creation of embryos for research purposes > -- A continued funding ban on "derivation," meaning federal dollars could be > spent to research embryos and stem cells only obtained through private > funding > -- A ban on human cloning > -- An increase in government funding for adult stem cell research > -- A restriction on funding for embryonic stem cell research only in the > earliest embryonic stage > -- A rigorous "informed consent" rule modeled on those now in place for > organ donation, giving donors the right to decide whether to put the embryo > up for adoption or to discard the embryo. If the donor chooses to discard > the embryo, he or she must approve the embryo's use for research. > -- A limit on the number of stem cell "lines" taken from each embryo in > order to minimize bio-ethical problems > -- A new public research oversight mechanism that would establish public > research guidelines, including a national research registry > -- An ongoing scientific and ethical review by The Institute of Medicine and > the creation of an independent presidential advisory panel to review the > bio-ethical implications of stem-cell research. The review would also > require the secretary of Health and Human Services to report to Congress > annually on the status on federal grants for stem cell research. > -- Strengthen and harmonize embryonic research restrictions to mirror fetal > tissue research restrictions > > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/07/18/stem.cell/index.html > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jul 20 10:26:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEED37B405; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiredbrain@earthlink.net) Received: from pflaump (sdn-ar-001flhhilP195.dialsprint.net [158.252.127.107]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAB24274; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001301c1113d$24b4f200$6b7ffc9e@pflaump> Reply-To: "Peter Pflaum" From: "Peter Pflaum" To: Subject: Finding something useful - Among the protesters Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:52:35 -0400 Organization: GlobalVillage Schools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1111A.D9C3E340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1111A.D9C3E340 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1111A.D9C3E340" ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1111A.D9C3E340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The protest is a good example of Globalization -=20 "What is happening now hasn't happened since the anti-Vietnam war = protests of the 1960s," he told me. "Young people from around the globe = are coming together to campaign for economic justice - and our movement = is growing." BBC News BUSINESS Among the protesters She says the protests are as much about cultural as economic concerns, = and praises the "radical street warriors" for showing the world that you = cannot dehumanise people and for "reclaiming our most human desires."=20 It is important to understand the social psychological base for the = protest. These people feel left out - big means less individual feeling = of participation, of being part of the whole. A global peace corps and = person-to-person contacts to help people feel global - part of a larger = humanity. There should be ways of redirecting all this energy into = productive activity - conflict resolution - social services - projects = in the poor world building practical projects - maybe financed by the = world bank - a IMF / world bank international youth corps in health, = education, economic development would be a good start.=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C1111A.D9C3E340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The protest is a good example = of=20 Globalization -

"What is happening now hasn't happened = since the=20 anti-Vietnam war protests of the 1960s," he told me. "Young people from = around=20 the globe are coming together to campaign for economic justice - and our = movement is growing."

BBC News BUSINESS Among the protesters

She says the protests are as much about cultural as economic = concerns, and=20 praises the "radical street warriors" for showing the world that you = cannot=20 dehumanise people and for "reclaiming our most human desires."

It is important to understand the social psychological base for the = protest.=20 These people feel left out - big means less individual feeling of = participation,=20 of being part of the whole. A global peace corps and person-to-person = contacts=20 to help people feel global - part of a larger humanity. There should be = ways of=20 redirecting all this energy into productive activity - conflict = resolution -=20 social services - projects in the poor world building practical projects = - maybe=20 financed by the world bank - a IMF / world bank international youth = corps in=20 health, education, economic development would be a good start.=20

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I will be on this program = Sunday at 10 -=20 11 AM on BBC - it is a webcast

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1= 444000/1444930.stm

BBC=20 News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C11118.D403F140-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C11118.D403F140 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="BBC News TALKING POINT Globalisation Good or bad.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=3Dhttp://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_14440= 00/1444930.stm [InternetShortcut] URL=3Dhttp://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1444000/1= 444930.stm Modified=3DE04DDDFA3911C10110 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C11118.D403F140-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 21 8:16:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cache1.hck.carroll.com (cache1.hck.carroll.com [216.44.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2853C37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:16:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damien@carroll.com) Received: from sprig.tougas.net ([216.44.20.42] verified) by cache1.hck.carroll.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 4113007 for chat@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:16:15 -0400 Received: from sprig.tougas.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprig.tougas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F29D379 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 11:16:14 -0400 From: Damien Tougas To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: C newbie needs help with kqueue Message-ID: <2042320000.995728574@sprig.tougas.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0b2 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am writing a simple program to try to learn a little bit about kqueue, but I seem to be having a problem with the file descriptor I am passing. It is probably a simple thing, but since I am quite green, the problem is not obvious to me. Perhaps someone could help me out. When I run this program, I get: Cannot create kevent: Bad file descriptor Thanks for your help. --- Damien Tougas Systems Administrator Carroll-Net, Inc. http://www.carroll.com #include #include #include #include #include int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { FILE *fp; int i; int kq, nev; struct kevent kev, ev; struct timespec ts = { 0, 0 }; if ((fp = fopen("/var/log/messages", "r")) == NULL) { perror("Cannot open file\n"); return -1; } if (fseek(fp, 0L, SEEK_END) < 0) { perror("Cannot seek end of file"); return -1; } if (kq = kqueue() < 0) { perror("Cannot create kqueue"); } EV_SET(&kev, fileno(fp), EVFILT_READ, EV_ADD | EV_ENABLE, 0 , 0, 0); if (kevent(kq, &kev, 1, NULL, 0, &ts) < 0) { perror("Cannot create kevent"); return -1; } for (;;) { if (kevent(kq, NULL, 0, &ev, 1, NULL) > 0) { printf("File Changed!!!\n"); } else { usleep(10000); } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 21 8:37: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830A237B408 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20181; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:36:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Damien Tougas Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C newbie needs help with kqueue References: <2042320000.995728574@sprig.tougas.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 21 Jul 2001 17:36:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2042320000.995728574@sprig.tougas.net> Message-ID: Lines: 40 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Damien Tougas writes: > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include Wrong header ordering; always comes first, followed by other sys headers in alphabetical order, followed by standard headers in alphabetical order. > int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { > if ((fp = fopen("/var/log/messages", "r")) == NULL) { > perror("Cannot open file\n"); > return -1; Don't use perror(3). Never return from main(), use exit(3) instead (err(3) in this case) to flag it as an exit point. Valid exit codes are 0-255 only. > } Incorrect brace placement. > if (kq = kqueue() < 0) { > perror("Cannot create kqueue"); > } If you were using the right compiler options (i.e. at least -Wall), the compiler would warn you that the < operator has higher precedence than the = operator. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jul 21 18: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cache1.hck.carroll.com (cache1.hck.carroll.com [216.44.20.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F93C37B405 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from damien@carroll.com) Received: from sprig.tougas.net ([216.44.20.42] verified) by cache1.hck.carroll.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 4117757; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:09:30 -0400 Received: from sprig.tougas.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprig.tougas.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EAE379; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:09:28 -0400 From: Damien Tougas To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: C newbie needs help with kqueue Message-ID: <2203180000.995764168@sprig.tougas.net> In-Reply-To: References: <2042320000.995728574@sprig.tougas.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0b2 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Saturday, July 21, 2001 17:36:59 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: >> if (kq = kqueue() < 0) { >> perror("Cannot create kqueue"); >> } > > If you were using the right compiler options (i.e. at least -Wall), > the compiler would warn you that the < operator has higher precedence > than the = operator. Hey, thanks, I'm not sure how long it would have taken me to figure that one out. I also appreciate the other constructive comments you made as well, I have incorporated them into my program. --- Damien Tougas Systems Administrator Carroll-Net, Inc. http://www.carroll.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message