From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 5:46:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailin7.bigpond.com (juicer38.bigpond.com [139.134.6.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3C137B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 05:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle ([139.134.4.52]) by mailin7.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GDZVQP00.H5M; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:52:01 +1000 Received: from 144.137.128.187 ([144.137.128.187]) by mail5.bigpond.com (Claudes-Prolific-MailRouter V2.9c 9/1683956); 27 May 2001 22:46:42 Message-ID: <001301c0e6ab$0f05d350$0300a8c0@oracle> From: "Doug Young" To: "Jamie Woodward" , References: Subject: Re: Advice & Assistance - Urgent Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:46:27 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org look at the Pedantic FreeBSD stuff at http://brisbane.apana.org.au/!freebsd/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Woodward" To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Advice & Assistance - Urgent > Hello all. I am a small business owner and require assistance with FreeBSD. > I have been very impressed with the stability of the product while acting as > a router to the internet, which in turn had 9 Windows 98 SE hubbed to it. > These PCs were used in my previous business, an internet cafe. This was my > first intro to FreeBSD so I had nothing to do with its configuration. > > Unfortunately my Unix knowledge is limited but I am quickly trying to bring > this up to speed. > > I have a few projects which require internet / network connection. I am > seeking assistance with configuration issues and would ask if anyone would > be kind enough to email me for help. > > Your help would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Jamie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 9: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E6237B424; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doegi@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: (from doegi@localhost) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA32530; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:09:39 +0200 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:09:39 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in -CURRENT, *.TXT files removed Message-ID: <20010527180939.A32462@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <200105251802.f4PI2fn25743@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <200105251802.f4PI2fn25743@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Bruce A. Mah (bmah@FreeBSD.ORG): > To disable all release note documentation building (i.e. for minimal > builds), define NORELNOTES at release-building time. Note that release Shouldn't that be NO_RELNOTES as well as a knob in make.conf? Nice work, Bruce! Thanks! Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 10:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A4137B42C for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4RHo2n48061; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CAB9D37B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 6154 invoked by uid 100); 27 May 2001 17:44:35 -0000 Message-Id: <20010527174435.6153.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 27 May 2001 17:44:35 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/27690: [PATCH] env is cool, and should be better documented. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27690 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] env is cool, and should be better documented. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun May 27 10:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #17: Sun May 27 08:47:01 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: env actually has some cool applications, but the man page doesn't mention a single possible use. So add one. >How-To-Repeat: Play with env a bit, and figure out how useful it is. Read the man page and notice that none of this is documented. >Fix: Apply the attached patch to the printenv man page. --- usr.bin/printenv/printenv.1 Tue Dec 19 10:22:24 2000 +++ /tmp/printenv.1 Sun May 27 10:22:49 2001 @@ -101,6 +101,20 @@ .Nm env prints out the names and values of the variables in the environment, with one name/value pair per line. +.Pp +.Nm env +is most useful with the +.Li #! +construct. The only difference between +.Li "#! /usr/local/bin/foo" +and +.Li "#! /usr/bin/env /usr/local/bin/foo" +is that the latter works even if +.Pa /usr/local/bin/foo +is itself scripted. The facilities of env allow reference to +.Ic foo +without the path, +and allow the script author to set up environment variables as needed. .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr csh 1 , .Xr sh 1 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 20:18:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFE437B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bula@constantin.com) Received: from [24.76.58.120] by mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010528031754.CDRS11152.mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com@[24.76.58.120]> for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:17:54 -0700 From: bula@constantin.com To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Do you know how to use a mouse? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010528031754.CDRS11152.mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com@[24.76.58.120]> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:17:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Best screen capture on earth and in cyberspace.
In fact the only one.
Anything else is just a long learning process.

SPX® v2.0
Everytime you need to select a portion of screen, hold right-click longer than usual until the cursor turns into the "cross" graphical cursor.Make your selection and as soon as you release the mouse, SPX® will send it to the destination of your choice: Clipboard, File, Mail, Printer/Fax

Very useful, no?
www.moodysoft.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 20:18:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40E937B43E for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:18:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bula@constantin.com) Received: from [24.76.58.120] by mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010528031808.CDTC11152.mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com@[24.76.58.120]> for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:18:08 -0700 From: bula@constantin.com To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: ...i saw a interesting software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010528031808.CDTC11152.mail2.rdc2.bc.home.com@[24.76.58.120]> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:18:08 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Best screen capture on earth and in cyberspace.
In fact the only one.
Anything else is just a long learning process.

SPX® v2.0
Everytime you need to select a portion of screen, hold right-click longer than usual until the cursor turns into the "cross" graphical cursor.Make your selection and as soon as you release the mouse, SPX® will send it to the destination of your choice: Clipboard, File, Mail, Printer/Fax

Very useful, no?
www.moodysoft.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun May 27 21:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3DF37B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S4jDI42789; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:45:14 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4S4jD785517; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:45:13 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:45:13 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: Angel Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?B?98/Q0s/T?= Message-ID: <20010528104513.A85463@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <004e01c0e645$126c6740$0100a8c0@angel> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004e01c0e645$126c6740$0100a8c0@angel>; from angelcom@a-teleport.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:36:28AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:36:28AM +0300, Angel wrote: > > дПВТПЕ ЧТЕНС УХФПЛ > тЕВСФБ, НПЦОП МЙ Х чБУ ЧЪСФШ ДПЛХНЕОФБГЙА ОБ ТХУУЛПН СЪЩЛЕ ДМС ЮБКОЙЛПЧ > РП ЙОУФБМСГЙЙ UNIX FreeBSD У CD Б ФП Х НЕОС РЕТЧБС РПРЩФЛБ ОЕХДБЮОП > ЪБЛПОЮЙМБУШ, УМЙФЕМ ЖБФ. рмъ. > Hi! Please, do not post russian letters into official FreeBSD mailing list. Official (and widely used in the world for international communications) language for FreeBSD lists is english. If you feel yourself uncomfortable - try to use one of those links (for russian-speaking people): http://www.freebsd.org.ru http://www.freebsd.org.ua http://www.opennet.ru news://fido7.ru.unix news://fido7.ru.unix.bsd news://relcom.comp.os.unix Best Regards, Serg N. Voronkov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 3:40:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AB437B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:40:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4SAeKD25730; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:40:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:40:20 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Matt Dillon Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, ipfw@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man7 firewall.7 tuning.7 Makefile Message-ID: <20010528134020.A6209@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Dillon , doc@FreeBSD.org, ipfw@FreeBSD.org References: <200105272314.f4RNERG18768@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105272314.f4RNERG18768@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dillon@FreeBSD.org on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:14:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Redirected to -doc and -ipfw] On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 04:14:27PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > dillon 2001/05/27 16:14:27 PDT > > Modified files: > share/man/man7 Makefile > Added files: > share/man/man7 firewall.7 tuning.7 > Log: > Add two new manual pages related to general firewall and tuning issues > > Reviewed by: hackers > > Revision Changes Path > 1.15 +2 -2 src/share/man/man7/Makefile > Sorry, I somehow missed your review request on -hackers, and didn't see it on the -ipfw list as well. First, please sort the MAN= entries in Makefile as they were before. I am somewhat confused as to why you have chosen to add the new firewall(7) manpage rather than to extend the existing manpages? IMHO this only creates unnecessary bloat. For example, the `IPFW KERNEL CONFIGURATION' section is an (almost) duplicate of the `Kernel Options' in ipfirewall(4) (the latter is seriously outdated), and it is now required to keep both in sync. The rest of the firewall(7) manpage fits nicely into the existing ipfw(8) manpage. More on makrup later... Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 6:21:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7240637B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4SDLOw79113; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105281321.f4SDLOw79113@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, murray@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/27678: Kobj documentation for the FreeBSD Developer's Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Kobj documentation for the FreeBSD Developer's Handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->murray Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon May 28 06:20:34 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll mark this up and add to it this week. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27678 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 6:28:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C5437B422; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4SDS6p56794; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 06:28:06 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (was) I'm leaving, now something like "anti official docs rant" :) Message-ID: <20010528062806.D49889@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <004901c0dc6a$ef1d1ac0$0300a8c0@oracle> <20010514121157.A436@guinness.osdn.com> <20010514105306.C35997@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010526132646.B60262@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010526132646.B60262@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 01:26:47PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 01:26:47PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Now that it's MFC'd, are you going to use the new "vidcontrol -p" to do > the screen captures, and the scr2{png,txt} ports? Hey Nik, I think that someone should definitely do that, but if its going to be me then it will have to wait a few weeks. ;) I think that we've given Randy a big start on the markup and I'd like to see him finish it up. In my last private emails with Randy I think he said he was prepared to do just that. These are pretty hefty install-guides, so the more hands that get involved in this the better. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 7:54: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFBB37B42C; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102034160.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.34.160]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA25185; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:54:04 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: (was) I'm leaving, now something like "anti official docs rant" :) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:54:47 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <004901c0dc6a$ef1d1ac0$0300a8c0@oracle> <20010526132646.B60262@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20010528062806.D49889@meow.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <20010528062806.D49889@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01052810544700.00385@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 28 May 2001 09:28, you wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 01:26:47PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Now that it's MFC'd, are you going to use the new "vidcontrol -p" to do > > the screen captures, and the scr2{png,txt} ports? > > Hey Nik, > > I think that someone should definitely do that, but if its going to > be me then it will have to wait a few weeks. ;) I think that we've > given Randy a big start on the markup and I'd like to see him finish > it up. In my last private emails with Randy I think he said he was > prepared to do just that. Yes, I've been moving right along on the conversion to sgml (Thanks to the Doc Project Primer and Murray's example). It will be ready to toss out for review in a couple of days. I'm sure there'll be things that I miss since I'm a beginner at sgml. I'm using the images I had on hand to start off and the new screen captures can be substituted as they get made. > These are pretty hefty install-guides, so the more hands that get > involved in this the better. Agreed! There's lots of room for improvement in the document and it'll benefit from wider ranges of experience. I'll advise when I get the draft posted. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 8:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9336637B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4SFK2000762; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B24C137B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 81488 invoked by uid 100); 28 May 2001 15:11:51 -0000 Message-Id: <20010528151151.81487.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 28 May 2001 15:11:51 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27709 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon May 28 08:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #17: Sun May 27 08:47:01 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: WITHOUT_X is the variable ports that can build both with and without X support conventionally use to disable X support, but it's not documented anywhere. >How-To-Repeat: "man make.conf", and look for WITHOUT_X >Fix: Appply the attached patch for the make.conf man page. --- share/man/man5/make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Mon May 28 10:08:14 2001 @@ -727,6 +727,10 @@ .Pq Vt bool Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. +.It Va WITHOUT_X +.Pq Vt bool +Set this so that ports that can be built with or without X support will build +without X support by default. .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX .Pq Vt str Where to create temporary files used when building ports. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 11: 0:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7B637B43E for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4SI0LU37145 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105281800.f4SI0LU37145@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/01/05] docs/24083 doc change layout and content of kernel build o [2001/01/15] docs/24363 doc lack of explanation o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver f [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/04] docs/23292 doc /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2000/12/22] docs/23767 doc ifconfig(8) manual page does not document o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/02/28] docs/25450 doc remove NCPU from docs o [2001/03/10] docs/25648 doc typos in some manpages (dependant) o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/12] docs/25735 doc error in handbook o [2001/03/15] bin/25837 docs [PATCH] properly document vfc_flags in ge o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/18] docs/25892 doc doc.html.mk: use OpenJade on alpha o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/03/24] docs/26060 doc No man page for /etc/host.conf o [2001/03/28] docs/26194 doc BSD Family Tree needs updated o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/14] docs/26574 doc Incorrect link in individual ports README o [2001/04/18] docs/26692 doc boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in o [2001/04/21] misc/26742 doc misleading information in handbook o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/02] docs/27027 doc Update src/share/misc/iso639 o [2001/05/02] docs/27040 doc rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l o [2001/05/08] docs/27209 doc [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u o [2001/05/14] docs/27320 doc excessively vague information in pppoe pa f [2001/05/17] docs/27410 doc On the book that comes with the 4.2 kit, o [2001/05/18] docs/27430 doc Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree o [2001/05/23] docs/27599 doc md(4) manpage enhancement o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/05/27] docs/27690 doc [PATCH] env is cool, and should be better o [2001/05/28] docs/27709 doc [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, 69 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 11:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF8237B42C; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:49:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4SImDc29044; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SIndZ49917; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105281849.f4SIndZ49917@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Alexander Langer Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in -CURRENT, *.TXT files removed In-Reply-To: <20010527180939.A32462@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <200105251802.f4PI2fn25743@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010527180939.A32462@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Comments: In-reply-to Alexander Langer message dated "Sun, 27 May 2001 18:09:39 +0200." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1876189175P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:49:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1876189175P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Bruce A. Mah (bmah@FreeBSD.ORG): > > > To disable all release note documentation building (i.e. for minimal > > builds), define NORELNOTES at release-building time. Note that release > > Shouldn't that be NO_RELNOTES as well as a knob in make.conf? Yes and no. :-) obrien and dd pointed out (correctly) that the desired behavior can be made conditional on NODOC just as easily (which means one less Makefile variable). (The rationale being that it's extremely unlikely that someone would want docs but no release notes.) So I'm testing some changes for that now. > Nice work, Bruce! Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1876189175P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7Ep3D2MoxcVugUsMRAjJHAKCy4ifdo5A2NoVM4eh8roPQiZYztgCdEm/q IJTvfpTBmTCw7rjL1YAFTR4= =4kM/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1876189175P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 12:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1B637B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4SJK2r96489; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105281920.f4SJK2r96489@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Pete Fritchman Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. Reply-To: Pete Fritchman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27709; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Pete Fritchman To: mwm@mired.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:23 -0400 The problem currently is that it's fairly inconsistent right now in the ports tree wrt WITHOUT_X and WITHOUT_X11 (just do a find /usr/ports -name Makefile -exec grep -H WITHOUT_X {} \; and you'll see all the instanaces). I *think* WITHOUT_X11 is the proper hook though. -pete ++ 28/05/01 15:11 -0000 - mwm@mired.org: | | >Number: 27709 | >Category: docs | >Synopsis: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. | >Confidential: no | >Severity: non-critical | >Priority: medium | >Responsible: freebsd-doc | >State: open | >Quarter: | >Keywords: | >Date-Required: | >Class: doc-bug | >Submitter-Id: current-users | >Arrival-Date: Mon May 28 08:20:01 PDT 2001 | >Closed-Date: | >Last-Modified: | >Originator: Mike Meyer | >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 | >Organization: | Meyer consulting | >Environment: | System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #17: Sun May 27 08:47:01 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 | | | >Description: | | WITHOUT_X is the variable ports that can build both with and | without X support conventionally use to disable X support, but it's | not documented anywhere. | | >How-To-Repeat: | | "man make.conf", and look for WITHOUT_X | | >Fix: | | Appply the attached patch for the make.conf man page. | | --- share/man/man5/make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 | +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Mon May 28 10:08:14 2001 | @@ -727,6 +727,10 @@ | .Pq Vt bool | Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that | need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. | +.It Va WITHOUT_X | +.Pq Vt bool | +Set this so that ports that can be built with or without X support will build | +without X support by default. | .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX | .Pq Vt str | Where to create temporary files used when building ports. | | >Release-Note: | >Audit-Trail: | >Unformatted: | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 13:23:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592137B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA56745; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:23:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:23:29 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Name Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20010528162329.A56697@blackhelicopters.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from pyriformus@hotmail.com on Fri, May 25, 2001 at 08:39:55PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 08:39:55PM -0400, Name wrote: > hello > > my name is william mccartin and i have at long last successfully installed > free bsd onto my desktop computer for the very first time and i figure i > might have perhaps a few valuable tidbits of information on how your online > manual did and did not help me through my installation process Hi, William, First, welcome to FreeBSD. Despite what you might suspect, the FreeBSD installer is not meant to prevent people from entering our club. I really am quite sorry you had such trouble; I'm not sure exactly where else we could put the statement that you need to use the space bar, as it is repeated in several places. The piece of evil code that the installer is written in actually doesn't allow us to change the font size. :) The gentleman who wrote you back earlier, Jordan, is actually responsible for the installer. As you might guess, it is one of his fondest wishes to replace it with something far more user-friendly. He's really quite passionate about it. Work is underway, but it's slow going. Feel free to search the mailing list archives for the whole ugly story, if you're interested. Now that you have it installed, let me point you at a couple of other things that might help you out. Do look at the Handbook and FAQ; they contain most of the friendly documentation. When you get an error message you just don't get, take a look at the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search/ . I find 90% of my answers there. Lastly, when you're really stuck, drop a note to questions@FreeBSD.org. It's full of people who want to help newcomers figure out just what they've gotten themselves into. Again, welcome, Michael Lucas (I have no formal relationship to the FreeBSD project, I just write about it. :) -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 15:42: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9143737B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.28]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA04125; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:41:59 +0200 Received: by zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 51A7014AE3; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:41:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:41:59 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NO_* vs. NO* (was: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in -CURRENT, *.TXT files removed Message-ID: <20010529004159.F2225@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> References: <200105251802.f4PI2fn25743@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010527180939.A32462@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <200105281849.f4SIndZ49917@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105281849.f4SIndZ49917@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:49:39AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --y0ulUmNC+osPPQO6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thus spake Bruce A. Mah (bmah@FreeBSD.ORG): > obrien and dd pointed out (correctly) that the desired behavior can be > made conditional on NODOC just as easily (which means one less Makefile > variable). (The rationale being that it's extremely unlikely that > someone would want docs but no release notes.) Yes, that's true. OTOH, I really wonder why we use NO* for such things (NODOC, NOCLEAN, [ports: NOPORTDOCS], ...), but NO_* for some disable knobs, like sendmail, bind, etc. This is quite inconsistent, even if it has historical reasons. Just read the section in make.conf which describes the various NO_KNOBS and wonder, why it's NOUUCP but NO_SENDMAIL :-) Odd. 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Please check us out the next time you shop: http://www.ePushcart.Net Thanks for considering ePushcart.Net- "A Diverse Marketplace for the Diverse market" -ePushcart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 19:48:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885A437B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 54E64239A4B; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:48:40 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Punctuation change to committer rule Message-ID: <20010528194840.C80810@klapaucius.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Zer0 X-Purpose: For great justice! Mail-Copies-To: poster Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone disagree with this punctuation change in the Committers' Big List of Rules? Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.67 diff -u -r1.67 article.sgml --- article.sgml 2001/05/13 15:44:20 1.67 +++ article.sgml 2001/05/29 02:44:29 @@ -1267,8 +1267,8 @@ - Respect existing maintainers if listed in the - (MAINTAINER field in + Respect existing maintainers (if listed in the + MAINTAINER field in Makefile or in the MAINTAINER file in the top-level directory). Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter My reality check just bounced. mailto:gsutter@zer0.org http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: '' iD8DBQE7Ew4IIBUx1YRd/t0RAsQYAJ9BD9z/AA7FpXXmOc2uX/WFphdS8wCeKK0u FlXCAoGpsxORRFD4SdMGgz0= =+epd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 20:41: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.163.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB8337B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T3eX920104; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4T3eSn53896; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:40:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105290340.f4T3eSn53896@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Makoto MATSUSHITA , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: RELNOTESng now default in -CURRENT, *.TXT files removed In-Reply-To: <20010526232303.EA17A3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010526232303.EA17A3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Sat, 26 May 2001 16:23:03 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1369723692P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:40:28 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1369723692P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Makoto MATSUSHITA writes: > > > > bmah> Until then, renderings of the release documentation can continue > > bmah> to be found at: > > bmah> http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ > > > > It seems that these documents are comes from -current (OK at this > > time), but what's happen if we have 5.0-RELEASE? Both 6-current and > > 5-stable of release documents are available on the web ? > > Work is in progress to put the release notes for all applicable > branches on the main web site. Actually, the required make(1) > infrastructure has already been committed; we're just waiting for > someone to change the build scripts on freefall to check out and/or > update the release notes with the web site. Just to amplify on this, I expect that we'll first see -CURRENT and 4-STABLE on the Web site(s) (I intend to MFC RELNOTESng before 4.4-RELEASE). Not much preventing the MFC at this point, except for the fact that I keep breaking "make release" on -CURRENT. :-) Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1369723692P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7Exor2MoxcVugUsMRAvVAAKCsAaL5gSfmn9U+pRzJXShnBYJUngCgo3UG JWTnJzJ8/kfyeqQmqNaPsac= =GObk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1369723692P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 21: 2:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBAF37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6243E0B; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:02:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Gregory Sutter Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Punctuation change to committer rule In-Reply-To: <20010528194840.C80810@klapaucius.zer0.org>; from gsutter@zer0.org on "Mon, 28 May 2001 19:48:40 -0700" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:02:49 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010529040249.7C6243E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gregory Sutter writes: > Does anyone disagree with this punctuation change in the Committers' > Big List of Rules? Looks okay to me. > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.s > gml,v > retrieving revision 1.67 > diff -u -r1.67 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 2001/05/13 15:44:20 1.67 > +++ article.sgml 2001/05/29 02:44:29 > @@ -1267,8 +1267,8 @@ > > > > - Respect existing maintainers if listed in the > - (MAINTAINER field in > + Respect existing maintainers (if listed in the > + MAINTAINER field in > Makefile or in the > MAINTAINER file in the top-level > directory). > > Greg > -- > Gregory S. Sutter My reality check just bounced. > mailto:gsutter@zer0.org > http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ > hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD > > --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Comment: '' > > iD8DBQE7Ew4IIBUx1YRd/t0RAsQYAJ9BD9z/AA7FpXXmOc2uX/WFphdS8wCeKK0u > FlXCAoGpsxORRFD4SdMGgz0= > =+epd > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --/3yNEOqWowh/8j+e-- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 21:34:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07FD37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2A43E0B for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:34:01 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: ¤t;/&stable; entities for consistent naming Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:34:01 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010529043401.3E2A43E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, Right now, the two active branches known as "FreeBSD-CURRENT" and "FreeBSD-STABLE" are named very inconsistently throughout the doc tree. Some names are like "FreeBSD-CURRENT", while some others strip off the "FreeBSD-"; some use , others don't. Even with the same document the names differ significantly! I propose that we introduce entities such as ¤t; and &stable; which should be used to reference the respective branches. In the future this may also allow us to automagically construct hyperlinks to the right places in the Handbook (we'll have to implement something like PR 27605 before that can happen, though). Right now it will simply improve the quality of the documents. Attached is a patch which adds the entities to a new file, share/sgml/freebsd.ent, and changes the Cutting Edge chapter of the Handbook to use them. I also added an &os; entity for the same reasons as outlined above (although the inconsistencies here are much less subtle). The Relnotes already have &os;, which is where I got the idea; and I think Bruce got it from mdoc(7). Comments? Suggestions? Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org --- /dev/null Mon May 28 19:02:41 2001 +++ share/sgml/freebsd.ent Mon May 28 18:32:52 2001 @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ + + + + + + + Index: share/sgml/catalog =================================================================== RCS file: /stl/src/FreeBSD/doc/share/sgml/catalog,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 catalog --- share/sgml/catalog 2001/02/20 19:10:47 1.14 +++ share/sgml/catalog 2001/05/29 04:32:03 @@ -26,6 +26,9 @@ PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DOCUMENT DocBook Language Neutral Stylesheet//EN" "freebsd.dsl" +PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Miscellaneous FreeBSD Entities//EN" + "freebsd.ent" + -- ...................................................................... -- -- English specific ..................................................... -- Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /stl/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.99 diff -u -r1.99 book.sgml --- en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml 2001/05/15 03:42:57 1.99 +++ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml 2001/05/29 04:32:11 @@ -11,6 +11,9 @@ %bookinfo; + +%freebsd; + %chapters; %authors; Index: en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /stl/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.69 diff -u -r1.69 chapter.sgml --- en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml 2001/05/24 17:46:52 1.69 +++ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml 2001/05/29 04:32:19 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ Synopsis - FreeBSD is under constant development between releases. For + &os; is under constant development between releases. For people who want to be on the cutting edge, there are several easy mechanisms for keeping your system in sync with the latest developments. Be warned—the cutting edge is not for everyone! @@ -24,60 +24,60 @@ - -CURRENT vs. -STABLE + ¤t; vs. &stable; - There are two development branches to FreeBSD; -CURRENT and - -STABLE. This section will explain a bit about each and describe + There are two development branches to FreeBSD; ¤t; and + &stable;. This section will explain a bit about each and describe how to keep your system up-to-date with each respective tree. - -CURRENT will be discussed first, then -STABLE. + ¤t; will be discussed first, then &stable;. - Staying Current with FreeBSD + Staying Current with &os; - As you are reading this, keep in mind that -CURRENT is the - bleeding edge of FreeBSD development and that if you - are new to FreeBSD, you are most likely going to want to think + As you are reading this, keep in mind that ¤t; is the + bleeding edge of &os; development and that if you + are new to &os;, you are most likely going to want to think twice about running it. - What is FreeBSD-CURRENT? + What is ¤t;? - FreeBSD-CURRENT is, quite literally, nothing more than a - daily snapshot of the working sources for FreeBSD. These + ¤t; is, quite literally, nothing more than a + daily snapshot of the working sources for &os;. These include work in progress, experimental changes and transitional mechanisms that may or may not be present in the next official release of the software. While many of us compile almost daily - from FreeBSD-CURRENT sources, there are periods of time when the + from ¤t; sources, there are periods of time when the sources are literally un-compilable. These problems are generally resolved as expeditiously as possible, but whether or - not FreeBSD-CURRENT sources bring disaster or greatly desired + not ¤t; sources bring disaster or greatly desired functionality can literally be a matter of which part of any given 24 hour period you grabbed them in! - Who needs FreeBSD-CURRENT? + Who needs ¤t;? - FreeBSD-CURRENT is made generally available for 3 primary + ¤t; is made generally available for 3 primary interest groups: - Members of the FreeBSD group who are actively working on + Members of the &os; group who are actively working on some part of the source tree and for whom keeping current is an absolute requirement. - Members of the FreeBSD group who are active testers, + Members of the &os; group who are active testers, willing to spend time working through problems in order to - ensure that FreeBSD-CURRENT remains as sane as possible. + ensure that ¤t; remains as sane as possible. These are also people who wish to make topical suggestions - on changes and the general direction of FreeBSD. + on changes and the general direction of &os;. - Peripheral members of the FreeBSD (or some other) group + Peripheral members of the &os; (or some other) group who merely wish to keep an eye on things and use the current sources for reference purposes (e.g. for reading, not running). These people @@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ - What is FreeBSD-CURRENT <emphasis>not</emphasis>? + What is ¤t; <emphasis>not</emphasis>? @@ -103,14 +103,14 @@ In any way officially supported by us. We do our best to help people genuinely in one of the 3 - legitimate FreeBSD-CURRENT categories, but we + legitimate ¤t; categories, but we simply do not have the time to provide tech support for it. This is not because we are mean and nasty people who do not like helping people out (we would - not even be doing FreeBSD if we were), it is literally + not even be doing &os; if we were), it is literally because we cannot answer 400 messages a day and actually work on FreeBSD! Given the - choice between improving FreeBSD and answering lots of + choice between improving &os; and answering lots of questions, most developers, and users, would probably opt for the former. @@ -118,14 +118,14 @@ - Using FreeBSD-CURRENT + Using ¤t; Join the &a.current; and the &a.cvsall; . This is not just a good idea, it is essential. If - you are not on the FreeBSD-CURRENT - mailing list, you will not see the comments that people are + you are not on the &a.current;, + you will not see the comments that people are making about the current state of the system and thus will probably end up stumbling over a lot of problems that others have already found and solved. Even more importantly, you @@ -171,7 +171,7 @@ Use ftp. The source tree for - FreeBSD-CURRENT is always exported on: + ¤t; is always exported on: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/. We also use wu-ftpd which allows @@ -205,13 +205,13 @@ If you are grabbing the sources to run, and not just - look at, then grab all of current, not + look at, then grab all of ¤t;, not just selected portions. The reason for this is that various parts of the source depend on updates elsewhere, and trying to compile just a subset is almost guaranteed to get you into trouble. - Before compiling current, read the + Before compiling ¤t;, read the Makefilein /usr/src carefully. You should at least run a make world the first time through @@ -222,7 +222,7 @@ - Be active! If you are running FreeBSD-CURRENT, we want + Be active! If you are running ¤t;, we want to know what you have to say about it, especially if you have suggestions for enhancements or bug fixes. Suggestions with accompanying code are received most @@ -233,63 +233,62 @@ - Staying Stable with FreeBSD + Staying Stable with &os; - If you are using FreeBSD in a production environment and want - to make sure you have the latest fixes from the -CURRENT branch, - you want to be running -STABLE. This is the tree that -RELEASEs + If you are using &os; in a production environment and want + to make sure you have the latest fixes from the ¤t; branch, + you want to be running &stable;. This is the tree that -RELEASEs are branched from when we are putting together a new release. For example, if you have a copy of 3.4-RELEASE, that is really just a - snapshot from the -STABLE branch that we put on - CDROM. In order to get any changes merged into -STABLE after the - -RELEASE, you need to track the -STABLE + snapshot from the &stable; branch that we put on + CDROM. In order to get any changes merged into &stable; after the + -RELEASE, you need to track the &stable; branch. - What is FreeBSD-STABLE? + What is &stable;? - FreeBSD-STABLE is our development branch for a more low-key + &stable; is our development branch for a more low-key and conservative set of changes intended for our next mainstream release. Changes of an experimental or untested nature do not - go into this branch (see FreeBSD-CURRENT). + go into this branch. - Who needs FreeBSD-STABLE? + Who needs &stable;? If you are a commercial user or someone who puts maximum - stability of their FreeBSD system before all other concerns, you - should consider tracking stable. This is + stability of their &os; system before all other concerns, you + should consider tracking &stable;. This is especially true if you have installed the most recent release (&rel.current;-RELEASE - at the time of this writing) since the - stable branch is effectively a bug-fix + at the time of this writing) since the &stable; + branch is effectively a bug-fix stream relative to the previous release. - The stable tree endeavors, above all, + The &stable; tree endeavors, above all, to be fully compilable and stable at all times, but we do occasionally make mistakes (these are still active sources with quickly-transmitted updates, after all). We also do our - best to thoroughly test fixes in current - before bringing them into stable, but + best to thoroughly test fixes in ¤t; + before bringing them into &stable;, but sometimes our tests fail to catch every case. If something - breaks for you in stable, please let us + breaks for you in &stable;, please let us know immediately! (see next section). - Using FreeBSD-STABLE + Using &stable; Join the &a.stable;. This will keep you informed of - build-dependencies that may appear in - stable or any other issues requiring + build-dependencies that may appear in &stable; + or any other issues requiring special attention. Developers will also make announcements in this mailing list when they are contemplating some controversial fix or update, giving the users a chance to @@ -319,7 +318,7 @@ url="ftp://releng4.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/">ftp://releng4.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ and install it like any other release. - If you are already running a previous release of FreeBSD + If you are already running a previous release of &os; and wish to upgrade via sources then you can easily do so from ftp.FreeBSD.org. This can be done in one of three ways: @@ -349,7 +348,7 @@ Use ftp. The source tree for - FreeBSD-STABLE is always exported on: + &stable; is always exported on: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/ @@ -376,7 +375,7 @@ - Before compiling stable, read the + Before compiling sta, read the Makefile in /usr/src carefully. You should at least run a make world the first time through @@ -394,7 +393,7 @@ Synchronizing Your Source There are various ways of using an Internet (or email) - connection to stay up-to-date with any given area of the FreeBSD + connection to stay up-to-date with any given area of the &os; project sources, or all areas, depending on what interests you. The primary services we offer are Anonymous CVS, CVSup, and Using make world Once you have synchronized your local source tree against a - particular version of FreeBSD (stable, - current and so on) you can then use the source + particular version of &os; (&stable;, ¤t;, and so on) + you can then use the source tree to rebuild the system. @@ -486,9 +485,9 @@ Subscribe to the right mailing list - The -STABLE and -CURRENT FreeBSD code branches are, by their + The &stable; and ¤t; branches are, by their nature, in development. People that - contribute to FreeBSD are human, and mistakes occasionally + contribute to &os; are human, and mistakes occasionally happen. Sometimes these mistakes can be quite harmless, just causing @@ -502,7 +501,7 @@ clear announcement is posted when the problem has been solved. - If you try and track -STABLE or -CURRENT and do not read the + If you try and track &stable; or ¤t; and do not read the stable@FreeBSD.org or current@FreeBSD.org mailing lists then you are asking for trouble. @@ -662,7 +661,7 @@ &man.make.1; to another file. If something goes wrong you will have a copy of the error message. While this might not help you in diagnosing what has gone wrong, it can help others if you post - your problem to one of the FreeBSD mailing lists. + your problem to one of the &os; mailing lists. The easiest way to do this is to use the &man.script.1; command, with a parameter that specifies the name of the file to @@ -697,7 +696,7 @@ To rebuild the world you use the &man.make.1; command. This command reads instructions from the Makefile, - which describes how the programs that comprise FreeBSD should be + which describes how the programs that comprise &os; should be rebuilt, the order in which they should be built, and so on. The general format of the command line you will type is as @@ -744,9 +743,9 @@ &prompt.root; make target - Beginning with version 2.2.5 of FreeBSD (actually, it was - first created on the -CURRENT branch, and then retrofitted to - -STABLE midway between 2.2.2 and 2.2.5) the + Beginning with version 2.2.5 of &os; (actually, it was + first created on the ¤t; branch, and then retrofitted to + &stable; midway between 2.2.2 and 2.2.5) the world target has been split in two. buildworld and installworld. @@ -811,8 +810,8 @@ Many factors influence the build time, but currently a 500MHz Pentium 3 with 128MB of RAM takes about 3 and a half hours to build - the -CURRENT tree, with no tricks or shortcuts used during the - process. A -STABLE tree will build somewhat faster. + the ¤t; tree, with no tricks or shortcuts used during the + process. A &stable; tree will build somewhat faster. @@ -835,7 +834,7 @@ can then build a new kernel based on your normal kernel config file. - If you are upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or above then the standard + If you are upgrading to &os; 4.0 or above then the standard kernel build procedure (as described in ) is deprecated. Instead, you should run these commands. @@ -843,7 +842,7 @@ &prompt.root; make buildkernel &prompt.root; make installkernel - If you are upgrading to a version of FreeBSD below 4.0 you should + If you are upgrading to a version of &os; below 4.0 you should use the standard kernel build procedure. However, it is recommended that you use the new version of &man.config.8;, using a command line like this. @@ -862,7 +861,7 @@ Install the new system binaries - If you were building a version of FreeBSD recent enough to have + If you were building a version of &os; recent enough to have used make buildworld then you should now use the installworld to install the new system binaries. @@ -1161,7 +1160,7 @@ Finished - You should now have successfully upgraded your FreeBSD system. + You should now have successfully upgraded your &os; system. Congratulations. If things went slightly wrong, it is easy to rebuild a particular @@ -1210,8 +1209,8 @@ spot all the dependencies. And, of course, this all depends on how often you want to - upgrade, and whether you are tracking -STABLE or - -CURRENT. + upgrade, and whether you are tracking &stable; or + ¤t;. @@ -1259,7 +1258,7 @@ builds run much faster, since most of sources will not need to be recompiled. The flip side of this is that subtle dependency problems can creep in, causing your build to fail in odd ways. - This frequently generates noise on the FreeBSD mailing lists, + This frequently generates noise on the &os; mailing lists, when one person complains that their build has failed, not realising that it is because they have tried to cut corners. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon May 28 22:40: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DAA37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4T5e3P06692; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105290540.f4T5e3P06692@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Arun Sharma" Subject: Re: docs/27653: Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME Reply-To: "Arun Sharma" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27653; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Arun Sharma" To: Cc: Subject: Re: docs/27653: Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:23:55 -0700 Please see 27654 for a followup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 4:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6842237B43F for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TBK2D77803; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511B337B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TBBP066365; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200105291111.f4TBBP066365@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:11:25 -0700 (PDT) From: debolaz@debolaz.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/27731: Incorrect example code in dev handbook causes FreeBSD to panic. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27731 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Incorrect example code in dev handbook causes FreeBSD to panic. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 29 04:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Anders Nor Berle >Release: FreeBSD 4.3 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: In section 18.2 of the FreeBSD Developers Handbook, an example code for a generic device is shown. This code is invalid. --> DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, skel_loader, SI_SUB_KLD, SI_ORDER_ANY); <-- Should be replaced with --> static moduledata_t linux_elf_mod = { "linuxelf", linux_elf_modevent, 0 }; DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, skel_loader, SI_SUB_KLD, SI_ORDER_ANY); <-- >How-To-Repeat: Just the code in 18.2 and try it to see the effect. :) >Fix: The line --> DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, skel_loader, SI_SUB_KLD, SI_ORDER_ANY); <-- Should be replaced with --> static moduledata_t skeleton_mod = { "skeleton", skel_loader, 0 }; DECLARE_MODULE(skeleton, skeleton_mod, SI_SUB_KLD, SI_ORDER_ANY); <-- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 5:39:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.net-werks.com (srv63.server4me.com [216.55.177.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACAE37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:39:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@zeus.net-werks.com) Received: from nobody by zeus.net-werks.com with local (Exim 3.14 #13) id 154ihF-000MG2-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:34:01 -0700 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: опхфвхлй, нхмшфйнедйб-ртпелфптщ From: sanyol@omen.ru MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary = b16bcb27d58756cb2ef4d1f9af4cb91b4 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:34:01 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a MIME encoded message. --b16bcb27d58756cb2ef4d1f9af4cb91b4 Content-Type: text/html ; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCg0KPGh0bWw+DQo8aGVhZD4NCgk8dGl0bGU+zc7T0sHTysgsIMzTy9zSyMzFxMjALc/Q zsXK0s7Q2zwvdGl0bGU+DQo8L2hlYWQ+DQoNCjxib2R5Pg0KPGRpdiBhbGlnbj0iQ0VOVEVSIj48 Zm9udCBmYWNlPSIiIGNvbG9yPSJCbHVlIj48aDI+zc7T0sHTysgsIMzTy9zSyMzFxMjALc/QzsXK 0s7Q2zwvaDI+PC9mb250PjwvZGl2Pg0KoKCgoKCg0+Lg5uDl7PvlIOPu8e/u5OAhPGJyPg0KoKCg oKCgz/Dl5Ovg4+Dl7CDh7uv8+O7pIOL74e7wIM3O09LB08rOwiDoIMzTy9zSyMzFxMjALc/QzsXK 0s7QzsIg8e4g8err4OTgIOIgzO7x6uLlLjxicj4NCqCgoKCgoNbl7fsg5+3g9+jy5ev87e4g8e3o 5uXt+y48YnI+DQqgoKCgoKDP7vHw5eTt6Org7CDv8OXk8/Hs7vLw5e3uIODj5e3y8eru5SDi7uft 4OPw4Obk5e3o5S48YnI+DQqgoKCgoKDP8OXk6+Dj4OXsIPLg6ublIO7h7vDz5O7i4O3o5SDk6/8g 8e7n5ODt6P8g4eXx7/Du4u7k7fv1IPHl8uXpIOgg8/Hr8+PoIO/uIOj1IO/w7uXq8ujw7uLg7ej+ IOgg7O7t8uDm8y48YnI+DQqgoKCgoKDS5esuL9Tg6vE6ICgwOTUpIDxmb250IHNpemU9IisxIj48 Yj43NjAtNzktNDI8L2I+PC9mb250Pjxicj4NCg0KIKCgoKCgoDxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpzYW55 b21Ab21lbi5ydSI+c2FueW9tQG9tZW4ucnU8L2E+DQoNCg0KDQo8L2JvZHk+DQo8L2h0bWw+DQo= --b16bcb27d58756cb2ef4d1f9af4cb91b4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 6:31:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from intserv.int1.b.intern (firewall.solit-ag.de [212.184.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6434B37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Holger.Kipp@alogis.com) Received: from alogis.com (kipp@clausthal.int1.b.intern [10.1.1.30]) by intserv.int1.b.intern (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f4TDVDB28216 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:31:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hk@alogis.com) Message-ID: <3B13A29A.674FE269@alogis.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:22:34 +0200 From: Holger Kipp Organization: Alogis AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Contribute "SAP/R3 Installation Description on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have just installed a SAP R/3 4.6B IDES System on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE (actually it is 3+weeks already, but documenting it took some time). Documentation is available (currently as LyX-File and derivations, ie LaTeX, ps and pdf) and you're free to use it for the FreeBSD Handbook, if you like (as long as my name stays in there ;-) If you'd prefer a different format, please let me know. pdf, ps and lyx-files are currently available from www.hkipp.de: http://www.hkipp.de/freebsdsap.ps http://www.hkipp.de/freebsdsap.pdf http://www.hkipp.de/freebsdsap.lyx Regards, Holger Kipp -- Holger Kipp, Dipl.-Math., Systemadministrator | alogis AG Fon: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 114 | Berliner Strasse 26 Fax: +49 (0)30 / 43 65 8 - 214 | D-13507 Berlin Tegel email: holger.kipp@alogis.com | http://www.alogis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 8:29:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from host213-123-128-214.btopenworld.com (host213-123-128-214.btopenworld.com [213.123.128.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56D237B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 08:29:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dominic@host213-123-128-214.btopenworld.com) Received: (from dominic@localhost) by host213-123-128-214.btopenworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TFSwL01766 for freebsd-docs@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:28:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dominic) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:28:57 +0100 From: Dominic Marks To: freebsd-docs@freebsd.org Subject: pptp section for ppp/slip handbook section, review please Message-ID: <20010529162857.B1355@host213-123-128-214.btopenworld> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I've written a little piece for the PPP and SLIP section of the handbook regarding using pptpclient for PPPoA as I had to do with my service provider. This is my first usage of DocBook so review and comments would be great. Thanks! 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ME-_$A0')68-AS>V@SF']QD1I460H#F$#<-,@9#4$B`X#<@8D;;+RQL\SSQD'0$&,N M0+T&9J&=6C7]_S0%4C1!YF&1W!S#0#E MYZ-R(`A4P7435[,F78R@P`-^7T/C2_)#5@DD60U$.?235+E.!03"0,)#9 M+`7BN7=<^>%V,3Q52WKNK@J%95K!*]W"KY84LM-B30HK--6TB@$3J`,B`'D* MT8(!2ORA6,X2(%(FG(B!T:IVS%9E$$T(Y--H;!P7RDQLF7JUX6I0SRH#JP8- ML:26$A8-9^N&;CT:TB%O51Z\.:8@J_\@,6A@\8TF__B[DBG" &A(.W5>R8 ` end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 9:23:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95D837B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4TGLmB74114; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:21:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:21:48 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Holger Kipp Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Contribute "SAP/R3 Installation Description on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE" Message-ID: <20010529092148.D72953@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <3B13A29A.674FE269@alogis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B13A29A.674FE269@alogis.com>; from Holger.Kipp@alogis.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200, Holger Kipp wrote: > I have just installed a SAP R/3 4.6B IDES System on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE > (actually it is 3+weeks already, but documenting it took some time). > > Documentation is available (currently as LyX-File and derivations, > ie LaTeX, ps and pdf) and you're free to use it for the FreeBSD > Handbook, if you like (as long as my name stays in there ;-) > > If you'd prefer a different format, please let me know. This looks very good and I think that we should import it into the Linux Compatibility chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook. We use SGML with the DocBook DTD in the FreeBSD Documentation Project. http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Would you be able to convert your document into SGML? If not then one of us on this list can do the conversion (or part of the conversion) for you. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 10: 0:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E189D37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TH02a94633; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D51BE37B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 15607 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2001 16:58:08 -0000 Received: from p3ee2160c.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (62.226.22.12) by mail.gmx.net (mail01) with SMTP; 29 May 2001 16:58:08 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00978 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:58:09 +0200 Message-Id: <20010529175809.N253@speedy.gsinet> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:58:09 +0200 From: Gerhard Sittig To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/27747: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27747 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 29 10:00:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gerhard Sittig >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. >Environment: -STABLE as well as -CURRENT (their src/usr.bin/leave directories are identical -- modulo RCS Id macros). >Description: The leave(1) manpage states that the program ignores several signals while the program actually doesn't. >How-To-Repeat: ----- `man leave` snippet --------------------------------------- [ ... ] Leave ignores interrupts, quits, and terminates. To get rid of it you should either log off or use `kill -s KILL' giving its process id. SEE ALSO [ ... ] ----- `man leave` snippet --------------------------------------- $ grep SIG usr.bin/leave/leave.c $ grep signal usr.bin/leave/leave.c $ (eyeballing the source proves the fact and simply kill(1)ing it works perfectly with the default TERM) >Fix: Apply the following patch to the manpage. Index: usr.bin/leave/leave.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /CVSREPO/FreeBSD/src/usr.bin/leave/leave.1,v retrieving revision 1.4.2.2 diff -u -r1.4.2.2 leave.1 --- usr.bin/leave/leave.1 2001/03/06 12:52:45 1.4.2.2 +++ usr.bin/leave/leave.1 2001/05/12 14:23:59 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .\" @(#)leave.1 8.3 (Berkeley) 4/28/95 .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/leave/leave.1,v 1.4.2.2 2001/03/06 12:52:45 ru Exp $ .\" -.Dd April 28, 1995 +.Dd May 12, 2001 .Dt LEAVE 1 .Os .Sh NAME @@ -85,9 +85,9 @@ or .Pa .profile . .Pp -.Nm Leave -ignores interrupts, quits, and terminates. -To get rid of it you should either log off or use +To get rid of +.Nm +you should either log off or use .Ql kill \-s KILL giving its process id. .Sh SEE ALSO virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 10:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DA437B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4THUSU25887; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4THURD60201; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105291730.f4THURD60201@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ¤t;/&stable; entities for consistent naming In-Reply-To: <20010529043401.3E2A43E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010529043401.3E2A43E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dima Dorfman message dated "Mon, 28 May 2001 21:34:01 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_859220174P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:30:27 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_859220174P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Attached is a patch which adds the entities to a new file, > share/sgml/freebsd.ent, and changes the Cutting Edge chapter of the > Handbook to use them. I like this! Question: Do we have any namespace pollution issues here; i.e. should ¤t; be something like &os.current;? Or is this not a factor? > I also added an &os; entity for the same > reasons as outlined above (although the inconsistencies here are much > less subtle). The Relnotes already have &os;, which is where I got > the idea; and I think Bruce got it from mdoc(7). Just for the record, I dreamed it up; I am too ignorant about mdoc(7) to take ideas from it, good as they are. Originally I thought it'd be good for typesetting FreeBSD in other font or whatever. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 11:52:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC8637B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmouse@kittymail.com) Received: from mouse ([24.176.48.110]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010529185221.TPJG12068.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@mouse> for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:52:21 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c0e870$906b34a0$6464a8c0@mouse> Reply-To: "Kris Anderson" From: "Kris Anderson" To: Subject: Diskless X Server: a how to guide Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:52:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0E835.E26FC3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0E835.E26FC3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to let you know, you might want to put something on your Diskless X = Server: a how to guide that helps someone get past any errors that might = occure, One such error is - ld: scrt0.o: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 I know this isn't the "bug" line but it sure would be neat to have links = on given subjects that would point to some sort of fixit thing so folks = didn't have to go searching high and low for an answer. 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Just to let you know, you might want to = put=20 something on your Diskless = X Server: a=20 how to guide that helps someone get past any errors that = might=20 occure,
 
One such error is -
ld: scrt0.o: No such file or = directory
*** Error=20 code 1
I know this isn't the "bug" line but it = sure would=20 be neat to have links on given subjects that would point to some sort of = fixit=20 thing so folks didn't have to go searching high and low for an=20 answer.
 
THanks.
 
~Kris = Anderson
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0E835.E26FC3A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 14:27:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5889837B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f4TLR5K11313; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TLR4258538; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010528194840.C80810@klapaucius.zer0.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:27:04 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Gregory Sutter Subject: RE: Punctuation change to committer rule Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-May-01 Gregory Sutter wrote: > Does anyone disagree with this punctuation change in the Committers' > Big List of Rules? > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: > /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.67 > diff -u -r1.67 article.sgml > --- article.sgml 2001/05/13 15:44:20 1.67 > +++ article.sgml 2001/05/29 02:44:29 > @@ -1267,8 +1267,8 @@ > > > > - Respect existing maintainers if listed in the > - (MAINTAINER field in > + Respect existing maintainers (if listed in the > + MAINTAINER field in > Makefile or in the > MAINTAINER file in the top-level > directory). I would axe the close paren instead. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 15:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB737B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TMU2O15141; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105292230.f4TMU2O15141@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/27747: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27747; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Gerhard Sittig Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27747: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:25:35 -0700 Gerhard Sittig writes: > Index: usr.bin/leave/leave.1 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /CVSREPO/FreeBSD/src/usr.bin/leave/leave.1,v > retrieving revision 1.4.2.2 > diff -u -r1.4.2.2 leave.1 > --- usr.bin/leave/leave.1 2001/03/06 12:52:45 1.4.2.2 > +++ usr.bin/leave/leave.1 2001/05/12 14:23:59 > @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ > .\" @(#)leave.1 8.3 (Berkeley) 4/28/95 > .\" $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/leave/leave.1,v 1.4.2.2 2001/03/06 12:52:45 ru Exp > $ > .\" > -.Dd April 28, 1995 > +.Dd May 12, 2001 This is not appropriate. The document date should be changed only when *nontrivial* changes are made. E.g., adding a new option is nontrivial, while fixing a spelling error, typo, or misconception is trivial. Other than that, this looks good. I'll commit it later today. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org > .Dt LEAVE 1 > .Os > .Sh NAME > @@ -85,9 +85,9 @@ > or > .Pa .profile . > .Pp > -.Nm Leave > -ignores interrupts, quits, and terminates. > -To get rid of it you should either log off or use > +To get rid of > +.Nm > +you should either log off or use > .Ql kill \-s KILL > giving its process id. > .Sh SEE ALSO > > > virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 > Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net > -- > If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above > ask your parents or an adult to help you. > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 16:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5204F37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TNU2b32750; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E33D737B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4TNMEY32158; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200105292322.f4TNMEY32158@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) From: jyliu@163.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/27758: ptrace(2) man page outdated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27758 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ptrace(2) man page outdated >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue May 29 16:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jiangyi Liu >Release: 4.3-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD fatcow.home 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #6: Tue Apr 24 21:08:50 CST 2001 jyliu@fatcow.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FATCOW i386 >Description: PT_STEP in ptrace(2) man page is described as 'addr and data fields are not used'. Actually, at least the addr field is used. If one wants to step the traced process, she had to set addr field to (caddr_t)1. That man page was written in 1996. Probably outdated. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 19:40:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB7C37B423; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4U2eDo55773; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105300240.f4U2eDo55773@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/27747: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] leave.1 manpage erratum State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue May 29 19:39:57 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Tue May 29 19:39:57 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27747 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 20:16: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71AE37B422; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4U3G3Y61585; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:16:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105300316.f4U3G3Y61585@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/27690: [PATCH] env is cool, and should be better documented. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] env is cool, and should be better documented. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue May 29 20:15:45 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -current with markup fixes and some rewording, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Tue May 29 20:15:45 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27690 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 20:17:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C8C37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CA13E0B; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:17:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, mwm@mired.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. In-Reply-To: <200105281920.f4SJK2r96489@freefall.freebsd.org>; from petef@databits.net on "Mon, 28 May 2001 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT)" Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 20:17:39 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010530031739.13CA13E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tend to agree with Pete here. It doesn't make sense to document it unless all the ports which can be compiled either with or without X use this hook. Pete Fritchman writes: > The following reply was made to PR docs/27709; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Pete Fritchman > To: mwm@mired.org > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not doc > umented. > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:23 -0400 > > The problem currently is that it's fairly inconsistent right now in the > ports tree wrt WITHOUT_X and WITHOUT_X11 (just do a find /usr/ports > -name Makefile -exec grep -H WITHOUT_X {} \; and you'll see all the > instanaces). I *think* WITHOUT_X11 is the proper hook though. > > | --- share/man/man5/make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 > | +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Mon May 28 10:08:14 2001 > | @@ -727,6 +727,10 @@ > | .Pq Vt bool > | Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that > | need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. > | +.It Va WITHOUT_X > | +.Pq Vt bool > | +Set this so that ports that can be built with or without X support will build > | +without X support by default. > | .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX > | .Pq Vt str > | Where to create temporary files used when building ports. > | > | >Release-Note: > | >Audit-Trail: > | >Unformatted: > | > | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > | with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > Pete Fritchman > Databits Network Services, Inc. > finger petef@databits.net for PGP key > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 20:57: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75BA037B43C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:56:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 30560 invoked by uid 100); 30 May 2001 03:56:57 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.28553.521171.74698@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:56:57 -0500 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. In-Reply-To: <20010530031739.13CA13E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <200105281920.f4SJK2r96489@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010530031739.13CA13E0B@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dima Dorfman types: > I tend to agree with Pete here. It doesn't make sense to document it > unless all the ports which can be compiled either with or without X > use this hook. Which came first, the support or the documentation? If it's not documented, how are port maintainers going to know that they need to support it? How are users going to know that it should be supported, so they can report the lack of support to port maintainers? And so on. FWIW, I think the name should be WITHOUT_X, not WITHOUT_X11. Unless there are no X10 ports, and no chance of there ever being an X12. Pete Fritchman writes: > > The following reply was made to PR docs/27709; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > > From: Pete Fritchman > > To: mwm@mired.org > > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not doc > > umented. > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:23 -0400 > > > > The problem currently is that it's fairly inconsistent right now in the > > ports tree wrt WITHOUT_X and WITHOUT_X11 (just do a find /usr/ports > > -name Makefile -exec grep -H WITHOUT_X {} \; and you'll see all the > > instanaces). I *think* WITHOUT_X11 is the proper hook though. > > > > | --- share/man/man5/make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 > > | +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Mon May 28 10:08:14 2001 > > | @@ -727,6 +727,10 @@ > > | .Pq Vt bool > > | Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that > > | need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. > > | +.It Va WITHOUT_X > > | +.Pq Vt bool > > | +Set this so that ports that can be built with or without X support will build > > | +without X support by default. > > | .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX > > | .Pq Vt str > > | Where to create temporary files used when building ports. > > | > > | >Release-Note: > > | >Audit-Trail: > > | >Unformatted: > > | > > | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > | with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Pete Fritchman > > Databits Network Services, Inc. > > finger petef@databits.net for PGP key > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > -- Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 21:33:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3853C37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC78C3E28; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:33:26 -0700 (PDT) To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. In-Reply-To: <15124.28553.521171.74698@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on "Tue, 29 May 2001 22:56:57 -0500" Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:33:26 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010530043326.CC78C3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Meyer writes: > Dima Dorfman types: > > I tend to agree with Pete here. It doesn't make sense to document it > > unless all the ports which can be compiled either with or without X > > use this hook. > > Which came first, the support or the documentation? Ideally? The documentation. In reality, esp. in a volunteer project? Probably the support. I don't think we'd have a flawless multi-threaded kernel overnight if somebody documented it :-). > > If it's not documented, how are port maintainers going to know that > they need to support it? How are users going to know that it should be > supported, so they can report the lack of support to port maintainers? > And so on. > > FWIW, I think the name should be WITHOUT_X, not WITHOUT_X11. Unless > there are no X10 ports, and no chance of there ever being an X12. I agree with your points in the paragraph above this one, but I'd like to see at least *some* support from the ports team before we start documenting it. At this point it may do more harm than good; what if you chose the wrong hook? Also, it's one thing to document something when 1% of the ports don't support it (e.g., PREFIX), and another when 50% of the ports don't support it (e.g., (WITHOUT|NO)_X(11)). I guess what I'm saying is that there should at least be the *desire* to support it before it's documented. (See my first paragraph in this e-mail.) Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org > > > > Pete Fritchman writes: > > > The following reply was made to PR docs/27709; it has been noted by GNATS > . > > > > > > From: Pete Fritchman > > > To: mwm@mired.org > > > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not > doc > > > umented. > > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:23 -0400 > > > > > > The problem currently is that it's fairly inconsistent right now in the > > > ports tree wrt WITHOUT_X and WITHOUT_X11 (just do a find /usr/ports > > > -name Makefile -exec grep -H WITHOUT_X {} \; and you'll see all the > > > instanaces). I *think* WITHOUT_X11 is the proper hook though. > > > > > > | --- share/man/man5/make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 > > > | +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Mon May 28 10:08:14 2001 > > > | @@ -727,6 +727,10 @@ > > > | .Pq Vt bool > > > | Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that > > > | need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. > > > | +.It Va WITHOUT_X > > > | +.Pq Vt bool > > > | +Set this so that ports that can be built with or without X support wi > ll build > > > | +without X support by default. > > > | .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX > > > | .Pq Vt str > > > | Where to create temporary files used when building ports. > > > | > > > | >Release-Note: > > > | >Audit-Trail: > > > | >Unformatted: > > > | > > > | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > | with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Pete Fritchman > > > Databits Network Services, Inc. > > > finger petef@databits.net for PGP key > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue May 29 21:58:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC81A37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 31949 invoked by uid 100); 30 May 2001 04:58:16 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.32232.828130.553276@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:58:16 -0500 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. In-Reply-To: <20010530043326.CC78C3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <15124.28553.521171.74698@guru.mired.org> <20010530043326.CC78C3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dima Dorfman types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > Dima Dorfman types: > > > I tend to agree with Pete here. It doesn't make sense to document it > > > unless all the ports which can be compiled either with or without X > > > use this hook. > > Which came first, the support or the documentation? > Ideally? The documentation. In reality, esp. in a volunteer project? I think that for a volunteer project - *especially* one with as many contributors doing nearly-independent parts as the ports tree has - the documentation *has* to come first. Otherwise you get chaos. > > If it's not documented, how are port maintainers going to know that > > they need to support it? How are users going to know that it should be > > supported, so they can report the lack of support to port maintainers? > > And so on. > > FWIW, I think the name should be WITHOUT_X, not WITHOUT_X11. Unless > > there are no X10 ports, and no chance of there ever being an X12. > I agree with your points in the paragraph above this one, but I'd like > to see at least *some* support from the ports team before we start > documenting it. At this point it may do more harm than good; what if > you chose the wrong hook? Also, it's one thing to document something > when 1% of the ports don't support it (e.g., PREFIX), and another when > 50% of the ports don't support it (e.g., (WITHOUT|NO)_X(11)). NO_X is already 100% supported and documented in the make.conf man page. It's possible that some port maintainers are abusing it to do what WITHOUT_X does because WITHOUT_X isn't documented. > I guess what I'm saying is that there should at least be the *desire* > to support it before it's documented. (See my first paragraph in this > e-mail.) Well, I've got the desire for the ports I do - though I'm waiting on testing before submitting the first one that supports WITHOUT_X. I've seen commits go by for ports that supported this functionality, but the author chose a different name because there was no documented standard for this kind of thing. In other words, I think the desires is there, but someone needs to choose one name and document it. In reality, I ought to document WITHOUT_GLIB, WITHOUT_ESOUND, WITHOUT_IMLIB and WITHOUT_GNOME as well. But those aren't quite as critical, because they are documented in the ports .mk files, if nowhere else. Of course, it would be better if all of thewe were listed in the handbook, as well, but that's a problem for another day. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 1:33:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE9937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:33:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4U8VOx92357; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:24 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mike Meyer Cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. Message-ID: <20010530093124.A92304@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <15124.28553.521171.74698@guru.mired.org> <20010530043326.CC78C3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <15124.32232.828130.553276@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15124.32232.828130.553276@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:58:16PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 11:58:16PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > NO_X is already 100% supported and documented in the make.conf man > page. It's possible that some port maintainers are abusing it to do > what WITHOUT_X does because WITHOUT_X isn't documented. Not only possible, it happened. When I patched the Ghostscript port to support building without X (so that people using it as part of the docproj build didn't need to install X), NO_X was the only documented variable. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsUr9sACgkQk6gHZCw343UzhwCdGQBFcHvLWM0zg9WaTwgK184L N8oAn15/zWOe+IsQEpNDOuAmEYN1jDoL =z3h1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 9:30:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280E137B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102034079.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.34.79]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA00683; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:30:22 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Nik Clayton Subject: Illustrated Installation Guide Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:31:11 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finished the first pass of the installation guide in sgml format. Since this is my first attempt, I'm sure there's still work that needs to be done (sgml and content). I've no objections to any adding/cutting/editing to make the documents better or more general. I'd like Nik to decide how to best proceed with handling the committing/revisions. I'm a little fuzzy on those details. I've temporarily posted some various ways to view the preliminaries: sgml source and images tarball: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/sgml_src/fbsd_install_src.tar html docs and images tarball: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/sgml_prev/fbsd_install_html.tar If anyone want to view them online without downloading the tarballs: sgml source and images: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/sgml_src/ html documents: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/sgml_prev/ I'm still on a sharp learning curve with this and really appreciate all the help Murray has given me as well as the encouragement from others. Its actually a bit of fun. Thanks! Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 9:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4B337B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:51:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8830017D43; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TJQ9f02442 for docs@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:26:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:26:09 +0200 From: Jens Schweikhardt To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Makefile.inc0 Message-ID: <20010529212609.A2306@schweikhardt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, world\n -current's /usr/src/Makefile says # The user-driven targets (as listed above) are implemented in Makefile.inc0 # and the private targets are in Makefile.inc1. These are kept separate # to help the bootstrap build from aout to elf format. however, /usr/src/Makefile.inc0 has been moved to the Attic more than one year ago, so this paragraph is in for updating, if not removal... Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 12:19: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485737B43C; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4UJHNc09625; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:17:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4UJIr277909; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105301918.f4UJIr277909@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Randy Pratt Cc: Nik Clayton , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide In-Reply-To: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> Comments: In-reply-to Randy Pratt message dated "Wed, 30 May 2001 12:31:11 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1241567473P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:18:53 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1241567473P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > I finished the first pass of the installation guide in sgml format. Since > this is my first attempt, I'm sure there's still work that needs to be done > (sgml and content). Nicely done sir! Hope you don't mind a couple nitpicks: 1. You used elements in a few places where it's not quite appropriate (look for the first couple or three times this gets used). Told you this was a nitpik. 2. There's a few places where you refer to programs such as ifconfig, et al. Usually we use &man entities for this (so ifconfig would be written &man.ifconfig.8;). This makes hyperlinks to HTML-ized manpages work. Don't know if you have tried this yet, but I thought the PDF version of your file looked pretty nifty too.... % make FORMATS=pdf % acroread book.pdf I personally would love to see this document replace the installation guide in RELNOTESng. About the only thing that it has that your preview does not is how one goes about actually obtaining the distribution. In any case, we ought to have more pointers to your document. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1241567473P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7FUed2MoxcVugUsMRAj/FAJ0SSXXNQoaK96mdlk9E5rSXFauiPgCggsfj 22Yw0ePiX5tlBT7tojOda94= =fgp1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1241567473P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 13:27:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D0D37B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B918D239AAB; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:27:20 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Punctuation change to committer rule Message-ID: <20010530132720.N3092@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <20010528194840.C80810@klapaucius.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RUqJLqMNe5u4kDWT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 02:27:04PM -0700 Organization: Zer0 X-Purpose: For great justice! Mail-Copies-To: poster Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --RUqJLqMNe5u4kDWT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2001-05-29 14:27 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > On 29-May-01 Gregory Sutter wrote: > > Does anyone disagree with this punctuation change in the Committers' > > Big List of Rules? > >=20 > > Index: article.sgml > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > RCS file: > > /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml,v > > retrieving revision 1.67 > > diff -u -r1.67 article.sgml > > --- article.sgml 2001/05/13 15:44:20 1.67 > > +++ article.sgml 2001/05/29 02:44:29 > > @@ -1267,8 +1267,8 @@ > > > >=20 > > > > - Respect existing maintainers if listed in the > > - (MAINTAINER field in > > + Respect existing maintainers (if listed in the > > + MAINTAINER field in > > Makefile or in the > > MAINTAINER file in the top-level > > directory). >=20 > I would axe the close paren instead. I had already committed it when I got this. I don't see a problem with it either way though. Greg --=20 Gregory S. Sutter "How do I read this file?" mailto:gsutter@zer0.org "You uudecode it." http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ "I I I decode it?" hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD --RUqJLqMNe5u4kDWT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: '' iD4DBQE7FVeoIBUx1YRd/t0RAhQFAJ9KZjsMA+AmoTcYHVq/LhY3G5Av4gCWInoc ulfcHNsoGgzyloJPUfAKsA== =nXyT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RUqJLqMNe5u4kDWT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 17:46:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f51.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CD237B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eshwar07@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:46:41 -0700 Received: from 128.138.177.14 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:46:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.138.177.14] From: "kiran yedavalli" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Release 3.2 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:46:41 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2001 00:46:41.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[28876BF0:01C0E96B] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I am looking for FreeBSD 3.2 as I have an application specific to this release. I have installed the 4.3 release but the application patch which is written for 3.2 is gicing errors for 4.3. I have searched a lot for the 3.2 release installation floppies on the web. But I am unable to find them. Please help me. Thank You esh _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 17:53:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C3737B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4V0rlU15437; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4V0riX80121; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105310053.f4V0riX80121@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "kiran yedavalli" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Release 3.2 In-Reply-To: References: Comments: In-reply-to "kiran yedavalli" message dated "Wed, 30 May 2001 18:46:41 -0600." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-498563927P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:53:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-498563927P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "kiran yedavalli" wrote: > I am looking for FreeBSD 3.2 as I have an application specific to this > release. I have installed the 4.3 release but the application patch which is > written for 3.2 is gicing errors for 4.3. I have searched a lot for the 3.2 > release installation floppies on the web. But I am unable to find them. This is more of a topic for -questions, but the short answer is: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html In particular, this page has a link to the following Web site, which will help you find mirrors of a particular FreeBSD release: http://www.freebsdmirrors.org/ Good luck, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-498563927P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7FZYX2MoxcVugUsMRAr9iAKD9cdbx3BP46HTHiELU23jyfJ6E2gCg9xZ6 uKLhD5St0ExtYTGgFSLtOls= =NcvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-498563927P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 22:23:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA1F37B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E356C3E2F; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT) To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ¤t;/&stable; entities for consistent naming In-Reply-To: <200105291730.f4THURD60201@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on "Tue, 29 May 2001 10:30:27 -0700" Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:23:52 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010531052352.E356C3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Bruce A. Mah" writes: > If memory serves me right, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > Attached is a patch which adds the entities to a new file, > > share/sgml/freebsd.ent, and changes the Cutting Edge chapter of the > > Handbook to use them. > > I like this! > > Question: Do we have any namespace pollution issues here; i.e. should > ¤t; be something like &os.current;? Or is this not a factor? It's probably of no technical concern, but I like &os.(current|stable);, so I think we should use that. Anybody else have any comments on this or shall I go ahead? Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org > > > I also added an &os; entity for the same > > reasons as outlined above (although the inconsistencies here are much > > less subtle). The Relnotes already have &os;, which is where I got > > the idea; and I think Bruce got it from mdoc(7). > > Just for the record, I dreamed it up; I am too ignorant about mdoc(7) to > take ideas from it, good as they are. Originally I thought it'd be good > for typesetting FreeBSD in other font or whatever. > > Cheers, > > Bruce. > > > > > --==_Exmh_859220174P > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 > > iD8DBQE7E9yy2MoxcVugUsMRAp2xAJ9JIuVdLj2GaftCsbX7J0sv7m6D1ACdEa2n > weFoDk89ulsEzYZgvAZrRsk= > =x1UN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --==_Exmh_859220174P-- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed May 30 22:52:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E991737B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4V5oCI21848; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:50:11 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Holger Kipp Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Contribute "SAP/R3 Installation Description on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE" Message-ID: <20010530225011.F89722@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <3B13A29A.674FE269@alogis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B13A29A.674FE269@alogis.com>; from Holger.Kipp@alogis.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200, Holger Kipp wrote: > Documentation is available (currently as LyX-File and derivations, > ie LaTeX, ps and pdf) and you're free to use it for the FreeBSD > Handbook, if you like (as long as my name stays in there ;-) Thanks Holger, Valentino Vaschetto converted this document to DocBook SGML and it has been committed. Please let me know if you think the presentation should be tweaked in any way (the change is in CVS now and should appear on the web in a few hours). I thought it would be beneficial to list links to the SAP notes that you reference, but I couldn't find them online. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 1:40:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from host213-123-133-158.btopenworld.com (host213-123-133-158.btopenworld.com [213.123.133.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F287537B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dominic@host213-123-133-158.btopenworld.com) Received: (from dominic@localhost) by host213-123-133-158.btopenworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4V8eZd00424; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:40:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dominic) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:40:35 +0100 From: Dominic Marks To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ¤t;/&stable; entities for consistent naming Message-ID: <20010531094035.A405@host213-123-133-158.btopenworld> References: <200105291730.f4THURD60201@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20010531052352.E356C3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531052352.E356C3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:23:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:23:52PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > It's probably of no technical concern, but I like > &os.(current|stable);, so I think we should use that. > > Anybody else have any comments on this or shall I go ahead? Why not go the whole way and put in &os.release; It seems silly to leave it out of the series even though its a snapshot of stable many FreeBSD learners might not know that. Just a thought. > > Thanks, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org Dominic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 5: 5:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CC637B42C; Thu, 31 May 2001 04:41:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102033126.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.33.126]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA04794; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:41:27 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 07:42:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> <200105301918.f4UJIr277909@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <200105301918.f4UJIr277909@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01053022065804.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Nik Clayton , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 30 May 2001 15:18, you wrote: > If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > > I finished the first pass of the installation guide in sgml format. Since > > this is my first attempt, I'm sure there's still work that needs to be > > done (sgml and content). > > Nicely done sir! > > Hope you don't mind a couple nitpicks: I appreciate the nitpicks...after all, I need to learn to use things right. > 1. You used elements in a few places where it's not > quite appropriate (look for the first couple or three times this gets > used). Told you this was a nitpik. Absolutely. I forgot to go back and fix those after I found keycap's intended use for _keys_ that are pressed on the keyboard. > 2. There's a few places where you refer to programs such as ifconfig, > et al. Usually we use &man entities for this (so ifconfig would be > written &man.ifconfig.8;). This makes hyperlinks to HTML-ized manpages > work. Hmm.. I used &man.moused.8 in Chapter 22. Mouse Settings and shows up as "moused(8)" but not as a hyperlink. Perhaps I have something else amiss locally. > Don't know if you have tried this yet, but I thought the PDF version of > your file looked pretty nifty too.... > > % make FORMATS=pdf > % acroread book.pdf Excellent. I didn't install JadeTeX and teTeX since I was installing docproj via ftp. I'll pick that up when the cd's arrive. > I personally would love to see this document replace the installation > guide in RELNOTESng. About the only thing that it has that your preview > does not is how one goes about actually obtaining the distribution. In > any case, we ought to have more pointers to your document. I've also been slacking on publicizing the document. There's a myriad of links across the web to its present location but that's easily changed. The documents should be where they do potential new users the most good. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 6: 3:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8058937B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4VD2e307745; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:02:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:02:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Randy Pratt Cc: Nik Clayton , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide Message-ID: <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com>; from rpratt@ezwv.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:31:11PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:31:11PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > I finished the first pass of the installation guide in sgml format. Since= =20 > this is my first attempt, I'm sure there's still work that needs to be do= ne=20 > (sgml and content). >=20 > I've no objections to any adding/cutting/editing to make the documents be= tter=20 > or more general. I'd like Nik to decide how to best proceed with handlin= g=20 > the committing/revisions. I'm a little fuzzy on those details. Some bullet points as they occur. * commit content changes and whitespace changes separately * It's probably worth breaking this down in to chapter.sgml files before import. * If we can, I'd like to get as many of the .png images converted to the .scr format instead as possible -- otherwise we'll be bloating=20 the repo with the PNG images unecessarily. * In the "Documentation" section, does it need to include the documentation that's with the installer verbatim, or is it just sufficient to show the user that it's there? Including it verbatim adds to the work required to maintain this between releases. * s/cdrom/CDROM/ everywhere * I can't shake the nagging feeling that this should be in the Handbook, maybe with a slight reorganisation. . . Bring chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 together as sections in a chapter,=20 "Before you install". Chapters 7 through 13 become sections in a "Carrying out the install" chapter. Chapters 14 onwards become sections in a "Post-installation" chapter. Maybe. Or perhaps we need an "Installation" in the Handbook (as we have "Getting Started", "System Administration", "Network Communications" and other parts) which this could be the content of. * There are a couple of mini mark-up nits, but nothing major. I don't think any of these should be considered 'show stoppers' though. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 10:46:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE8237B43E; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4VHkf638100; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:46:41 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: Randy Pratt , Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide Message-ID: <20010531104641.A37953@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:02:39PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:02:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > * I can't shake the nagging feeling that this should be in the > Handbook, maybe with a slight reorganisation. . . I completely agree. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 12:23:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E229B37B424; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:23:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4VJIZx10462; Thu, 31 May 2001 20:18:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:18:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Nik Clayton , Randy Pratt , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide Message-ID: <20010531201834.B2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <20010531104641.A37953@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nmemrqcdn5VTmUEE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531104641.A37953@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@freebsd.org on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:46:41AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nmemrqcdn5VTmUEE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:46:41AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:02:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > * I can't shake the nagging feeling that this should be in the > > Handbook, maybe with a slight reorganisation. . . >=20 > I completely agree. 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15:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:36:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105312236.f4VMawi85100@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/27709: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] WITHOUT_X is used by many ports, but not documented. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu May 31 15:36:40 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Thu May 31 15:36:40 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27709 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 15:37:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6073237B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:37:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (logo@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VMZNi45874; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentino Vaschetto To: Holger Kipp , Murray Stokely Cc: Subject: Re: Contribute "SAP/R3 Installation Description on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE" In-Reply-To: <20010530225011.F89722@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Missed stuff: * Forgot the ";" at the end of one of the &prompt.root; * Fixed the ugly indentations Diff attached. -val On Wed, 30 May 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: :On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200, Holger Kipp wrote: :> Documentation is available (currently as LyX-File and derivations, :> ie LaTeX, ps and pdf) and you're free to use it for the FreeBSD :> Handbook, if you like (as long as my name stays in there ;-) : :Thanks Holger, : : Valentino Vaschetto converted this document to DocBook SGML and it :has been committed. Please let me know if you think the presentation :should be tweaked in any way (the change is in CVS now and should :appear on the web in a few hours). I thought it would be beneficial :to list links to the SAP notes that you reference, but I couldn't find :them online. : : - Murray : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 16: 7:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCC37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (logo@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VN5C146745; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:05:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:05:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentino Vaschetto To: Holger Kipp , Murray Stokely Cc: Subject: Re: Contribute "SAP/R3 Installation Description on FreeBSD 4.3 STABLE" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1038787364-991350312=:46700" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1038787364-991350312=:46700 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I lied.. now the diff is attached :) -val On Thu, 31 May 2001, Valentino Vaschetto wrote: :Missed stuff: : :* Forgot the ";" at the end of one of the &prompt.root; :* Fixed the ugly indentations : :Diff attached. : :-val : : : :On Wed, 30 May 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: : ::On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:34PM +0200, Holger Kipp wrote: ::> Documentation is available (currently as LyX-File and derivations, ::> ie LaTeX, ps and pdf) and you're free to use it for the FreeBSD ::> Handbook, if you like (as long as my name stays in there ;-) :: ::Thanks Holger, :: :: Valentino Vaschetto converted this document to DocBook SGML and it ::has been committed. Please let me know if you think the presentation ::should be tweaked in any way (the change is in CVS now and should ::appear on the web in a few hours). 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Jangity" To: , Subject: Re[2]: Limiting TCP RST Response Packets Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:14:32 -0700 Organization: Entic Services MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe blackhole(4) should be reworded to something like this: From: this as a "Connection reset by peer". By turning the TCP black hole MIB on to a numeric value of one, the incoming SYN segment is merely dropped, and no RST is sent, making the system appear as a blackhole. To: this as a "Connection reset by peer". By turning the TCP black hole MIB on to a numeric value of one, the incoming SYN segment arriving on a closed port is dropped, and no RST is sent, making the system appear as a blackhole. Thats what I think its trying to say... Anil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 21:57:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4DD37B42C; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:57:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA303E30; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:57:34 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org Subject: Nested hrefs (also known as: ) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:57:34 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010601045734.1CA303E30@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As you probably know, we have customized to create an href to an HTML rendering of the corresponding manual page when the document is being rendered to HTML. The problem is when one of these entities is used inside a tag which will cause a link to be created, such as (if a table of contents is to be created for this document): Using the &man.ls.1; command This will cause an equivilent of the following to be generated when rendering to HTML: Using the ls(1) command Obviously, nested hrefs simply don't work. Also, the canonical solution of "then don't do that" is unsatisfying. The (IMO) ideal solution would be for the customization of to detect if its output will appear inside an href, and not generate an href itself in that case. This would be much easier if all links were created with a procedure, e.g. (create-link), instead of using (make element gi: "A"). Once that's done, all that's needed to fix the problem described above is to have (create-link) call another function, e.g. (can-link-here), to determine if it's okay to make an link in the current place. Comments? Suggestions? Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /stl/src/FreeBSD/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.30 diff -u -r1.30 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 2001/05/22 03:32:17 1.30 +++ freebsd.dsl 2001/05/28 05:55:33 @@ -116,12 +116,12 @@ (href ($create-refentry-xref-link$ (data refentrytitle) (data manvolnum)))) - (if %refentry-xref-link% - (make element gi: "A" - attributes: (list (list "HREF" href)) + (if %refentry-xref-link% + (create-link (if %refentry-xref-italic% ($italic-seq$) - ($charseq$))) + ($charseq$)) + (list (list "HREF" href))) (if %refentry-xref-italic% ($italic-seq$) ($charseq$))))) @@ -447,6 +447,41 @@ (process-node-list abbrev)) (make sequence (literal "[" (id target) "]")))))))) + + + (define (can-link-here) + (cond ((has-ancestor-member? (current-node) + '("TITLE" "QUESTION")) #f) + (#t #t))) + + (define (create-link target attrlist) + (if (can-link-here) + (make element gi: "A" + attributes: attrlist + target) + target)) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 22:36:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313F037B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:36:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E953E2F; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:36:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Dominic Marks Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ¤t;/&stable; entities for consistent naming In-Reply-To: <20010531094035.A405@host213-123-133-158.btopenworld>; from dominic_marks@btinternet.com on "Thu, 31 May 2001 09:40:35 +0100" Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:36:09 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010601053609.89E953E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dominic Marks writes: > Hi > > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:23:52PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > > It's probably of no technical concern, but I like > > &os.(current|stable);, so I think we should use that. > > > > Anybody else have any comments on this or shall I go ahead? > > Why not go the whole way and put in &os.release; It seems silly to leave > it out of the series even though its a snapshot of stable many FreeBSD > learners might not know that. Just a thought. -RELEASE isn't mentioned that much in the docs, and when it is it's mentioned with a number. When the docs refer to "stable" they usually mean "pretty much anything on the -stable branch". Very little docs refer to "pretty much any release"; it's almost always a specific release. Thus, unless we want to make entities for every release (which is counter-intuitive, since they won't get that much use) it's rather pointless. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu May 31 23:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE7837B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f516o1q76907; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF5A537B440 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:47:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 30375 invoked by uid 100); 1 Jun 2001 06:47:02 -0000 Message-Id: <20010601064702.30374.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 1 Jun 2001 06:47:02 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27807 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu May 31 23:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #17: Sun May 27 08:47:01 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The various WANT/HAVE ports Makefile variables arent't documented in the porters handbook. Neither is WITHOUT_X. >How-To-Repeat: Read the porters handbook looking for information on WITH_GIMP, etc. >Fix: Apply the attached patch to the porters handbook. WITHOUT_X has already been documented in the make.conf man page. WITH/WITHOUT_* for the WANT/HAVE variables should be done after this patch is committed. And yes, I'm willing to write that up as well. --- porters-handbook/book.sgml-orig Thu May 31 21:21:58 2001 +++ porters-handbook/book.sgml Fri Jun 1 01:42:20 2001 @@ -1265,6 +1265,42 @@ + + Optional dependencies + + Some large applications can be built in a number of + configurations, adding functionality if one of a number of + libraries or applications is available. Since not all users + want those libraries or applications, the ports system + provides hooks that the port author can use to decide which + configuration should be built. Supporting these properly will + make uses happy, and effectively provide 2 or more ports for the + price of one. + + The easiest of these to use is + WITHOUT_X. If the port can be built both + with and without X support, then it should normally be built + with X support. If WITHOUT_X is defined, + then the version that does not have X support should be + built. + + Various parts of GNOME have such knobs, though they are + slightly more difficult to use. The variables to use in the + Makefile are WANT_* + and HAVE_*. 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If you receive duplicates, reply to this message with "Duplicate"= in the subject heading To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 0:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C8C37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f517K3C81941; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106010720.f517K3C81941@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27807; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mwm@mired.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:19:03 -0700 mwm@mired.org writes: > Apply the attached patch to the porters handbook. WITHOUT_X has > already been documented in the make.conf man page. WITH/WITHOUT_* for > the WANT/HAVE variables should be done after this patch is > committed. And yes, I'm willing to write that up as well. I hope you don't intend on documenting (WANT|HAVE)_* in the man page; they certainly don't belong there. Sticking them along side the discussion of dependencies or some such in the Porter's Handbook would be great, though. > + The easiest of these to use is > + WITHOUT_X. If the port can be built both Isn't WITHOUT_X a make variable? I.e., shouldn't it be marked up with ? Other than that, this looks great! I'll commit it later today. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 8:22:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.stofanet.dk (mail1.stofanet.dk [212.10.10.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A63C637B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ebr@cs.auc.dk) Received: (qmail 19478 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 15:15:58 -0000 Received: from pc151058.stofanet.dk (HELO pc151058) (212.10.86.58) by mail1.stofanet.dk with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 15:15:58 -0000 From: "Esben Rasmussen" To: Subject: Design Architecture Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi doc people :) I am interested in a design architecture of FreeBSD4.2 or current release. If any of you can point me in the right direction I will be a happy camper. Particular IP, ICMP, and NDP related design, but if you have a chart showing the different modules of FreeBSD and what is handled by kernel level and user level. Cheers Esben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 11:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F072937B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f51IK2H83215; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106011820.f51IK2H83215@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27807; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Dima Dorfman Cc: mwm@mired.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:14:07 -0500 Dima Dorfman types: > mwm@mired.org writes: > > Apply the attached patch to the porters handbook. WITHOUT_X has > > already been documented in the make.conf man page. WITH/WITHOUT_* for > > the WANT/HAVE variables should be done after this patch is > > committed. And yes, I'm willing to write that up as well. > I hope you don't intend on documenting (WANT|HAVE)_* in the man page; > they certainly don't belong there. Sticking them along side the > discussion of dependencies or some such in the Porter's Handbook would > be great, though. Nope, I wasn't going to do that. What would go in the man page would be the WITH/WITHOUT variables. > > + The easiest of these to use is > > + WITHOUT_X. If the port can be built both > Isn't WITHOUT_X a make variable? I.e., shouldn't it be marked up with > ? Yes, it is, and yes, it should. I should have caught that when I proofed it. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 12: 2:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BF537B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doegi@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de) Received: (from doegi@localhost) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.6.9) id VAA24833; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:46 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:02:46 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NMBCLUSTERS setting in default kernel Message-ID: <20010601210246.A24644@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010529214403.L85298@mail.webmonster.de> <20010530205056.G29853@mail.webmonster.de> <20010530210351.C65759@rapier.smartspace.co.za> <20010531233829.A58131@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> <20010601154523.A10477@mail.webmonster.de> <20010601164222.A4578@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> <20010601203848.J10477@mail.webmonster.de> <20010601114043.L19893@nexus.root.com> <20010601205721.M10477@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3us In-Reply-To: <20010601205721.M10477@mail.webmonster.de> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also sprach Karsten W. Rohrbach (karsten@rohrbach.de): > putting it in production, not knowing what knobs to turn. the learning > curve to set up a working production server on freebsd is much more > steep (is this the correct word?) than let's say linux (no religious > wars intended) Maybe it's time for a good tutorial on this, if not already existant. This tutorial could at least list all possible positions where one could try to tweak together with a whole bump of suggestions for webservers or newsservers or similar. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 12:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D7EA37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 22072 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Jun 2001 19:31:43 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:31:43 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Alexander Langer Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NMBCLUSTERS setting in default kernel Message-ID: <20010601213143.Q10477@mail.webmonster.de> References: <20010529214403.L85298@mail.webmonster.de> <20010530205056.G29853@mail.webmonster.de> <20010530210351.C65759@rapier.smartspace.co.za> <20010531233829.A58131@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> <20010601154523.A10477@mail.webmonster.de> <20010601164222.A4578@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> <20010601203848.J10477@mail.webmonster.de> <20010601114043.L19893@nexus.root.com> <20010601205721.M10477@mail.webmonster.de> <20010601210246.A24644@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WZLuFERxa6Y0cbOt" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601210246.A24644@kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>; from alex@big.endian.de on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 09:02:46PM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --WZLuFERxa6Y0cbOt Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bvgsfYmVhxWy/2TA" Content-Disposition: inline --bvgsfYmVhxWy/2TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alexander Langer(alex@big.endian.de)@2001.06.01 21:02:46 +0000: > Also sprach Karsten W. Rohrbach (karsten@rohrbach.de): >=20 > > putting it in production, not knowing what knobs to turn. the learning > > curve to set up a working production server on freebsd is much more > > steep (is this the correct word?) than let's say linux (no religious > > wars intended) >=20 > Maybe it's time for a good tutorial on this, if not already existant. > This tutorial could at least list all possible positions where one > could try to tweak together with a whole bump of suggestions for > webservers or newsservers or similar. matt dillon created a man page for it this week. tuning(7), file attached. it just has to be referred from somewhere to let people read it in 4.4-RELEASE ;-) /k --=20 > A Puritan is someone who is deathly afraid that someone, somewhere, is > having fun. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --bvgsfYmVhxWy/2TA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tuning.7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =2E\" Copyright (c) 2001, Matthew Dillon. Terms and conditions are those of =2E\" the BSD Copyright as specified in the file "/usr/src/COPYRIGHT" in =2E\" the source tree. =2E\" =2E\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man7/security.7,v 1.13.2.3 2001/03/06 19:08:2= 0 ru Exp $ =2E\" =2EDd May 25, 2001 =2EDt TUNING 7 =2EOs FreeBSD =2ESh NAME =2ENm tuning =2ENd performance tuning under FreeBSD =2ESh SYSTEM SETUP - DISKLABEL, NEWFS, TUNEFS, SWAP =2EPp When using =2EXr disklabel 8 to lay out your filesystems on a hard disk it is important to remember that hard drives can transfer data much more quickly from outer tracks then they can from inner tracks. To take advantage of this you should try to pack your smaller filesystems and swap closer to the outer tracks, follow with the larger filesystems, and end with the largest filesystems. It is also important to size system standard filesystems such that you will not be forced to resize them later as you scale the machine up. I usually create, in order, a 128M root, 1G swap, 128M /var, 128M /var/tmp, 3G /usr, and use any remaining space for /home. =2EPp You should typically size your swap space to approximately 2x main memory. If you do not have a lot of ram, though, you will generally want a lot more swap. It is not recommended that you configure any less than 256M of swap on a system and you should keep in mind future memory expansion when sizing the swap partition. The kernel's VM paging algorithms are tuned to perform best when there is at least 2x swap versus main memory. Configuring too little swap can lead to inefficiencies in the VM page scanning code as well as create issues later on if you add more memory to your machine. Finally, on larger systems with multiple SCSI disks (or multiple IDE disks operating on different controllers), we strongly recommend that you configure swap on each drive (up to four drives). The swap partitions on the drives should be approximately the same size. The kernel can handle arbitrary sizes but=20 internal data structures scale to 4 times the largest swap partition. Keep= ing the swap partitions near the same size will allow the kernel to optimally stripe swap space across the N disks. Don't worry about overdoing it a little, swap space is the saving grace of =2EUx and even if you don't normally use much swap, it can give you more time to recover from a runaway program before being forced to reboot. =2EPp How you size your =2EEm /var partition depends heavily on what you intend to use the machine for. This partition is primarily used to hold mailboxes, the print spool, and log files. Some people even make =2EEm /var/log its own partition (but except for extreme cases it isn't worth the waste of a partition id). If your machine is intended to act as a mail or print server, or you are running a heavily visited web server, you should consider creating a much larger partition - perhaps a gig or more. It is very easy to underestimate log file storage requirements.=20 =2EPp Sizing =2EEm /var/tmp depends on the kind of temporary file usage you think you will need. 128M = is the minimum we recommend. Also note that you usually want to make =2EEm /tmp a softlink to =2EEm /var/tmp . Dedicating a partition for temporary file storage is important for two reasons: First, it reduces the possibility of filesystem corruption in a crash, and second it reduces the chance of a runaway process that fills up [/var]/tmp from blowing up more critical subsystems (mail, logging, etc). Filling up [/var]/tmp is a very common problem to have. =2EPp In the old days there were differences between /tmp and /var/tmp, but the introduction of /var (and /var/tmp) led to massive confusion by program writers so today programs halfhazardly use one or the other and thus no real distinction can be made between the two. So it makes sense to have just one temporary directory. You can do the=20 softlink either way. The one thing you do not want to do is leave /tmp on the root partition where it might cause root to fill up or possibly corrupt root in a crash/reboot situation. =2EPp The =2EEm /usr partition holds the bulk of the files required to support the system and a subdirectory within it called =2EEm /usr/local holds the bulk of the files installed from the =2EXr ports 7 hierarchy. If you do not use ports all that much and do not intend to keep system source (/usr/src) on the machine, you can get away with a 1 gigabyte /usr partition. However, if you install a lot of ports (especially window managers and linux-emulated binaries), we recommend at least a 2 gigabyte /usr and if you also intend to keep system source on the machine, we recommend a 3 gigabyte /usr. Do not underestimate the amount of space you will need in this partition, it can creep up and=20 surprise you! =2EPp The =2EEm /home partition is typically used to hold user-specific data. I usually size it to the remainder of the disk. =2EPp Why partition at all? Why not create one big =2EEm / partition and be done with it? Then I don't have to worry about undersizing things! Well, there are several reasons this isn't a good idea. First, each partition has different operational characteristics and separating them allows the filesystem to tune itself to those characteristics. For example, the root and /usr partitions are read-mostly, with very little writing, whi= le a lot of reading and writing could occur in /var and /var/tmp. By properly partitioning your system, fragmentation introduced in the smaller more heavily write-loaded partitions will not bleed over into the mostly-read partitions. Additionally, keeping the write-loaded partitions closer to the edge of the disk (i.e. before the really big partitions instead of after in the partition table) will increase I/O performance in the partitions=20 where you need it the most. Now it is true that you might also need I/O performance in the larger partitions, but they are so large that shifting them more towards the edge of the disk will not lead to a significnat performance improvement whereas moving /var to the edge can have a huge imp= act. Finally, there are safety concerns. Having a small neat root partition that is essentially read-only gives it a greater chance of surviving a bad crash intact. =2EPp Properly partitioning your system also allows you to tune =2EXr newfs 8 , and =2EXr tunefs 8 parameters. Tuning =2EFn newfs requires more experience but can lead to significant improvements in=20 performance. There are three parameters that are relatively safe to tune: =2EEm blocksize , =2EEm bytes/inode , and =2EEm cylinders/group . =2EPp =2EFx performs best when using 8K or 16K filesystem block sizes. The default filesystem block size is 8K. For larger partitions it is usually a good idea to use a 16K block size. This also requires you to specify a larger fragment size. We recommend always using a fragment size that is 1/8 the block size (less testing has been done on other fragment size factors). The =2EFn newfs options for this would be =2EEm newfs -f 2048 -b 16384 ... Using a larger block size can cause fragmentation of the buffer cache and lead to lower performance. =2EPp If a large partition is intended to be used to hold fewer, larger files, su= ch as a database files, you can increase the =2EEm bytes/inode ratio which reduces the number if inodes (maximum number of files and directories that can be created) for that partition. Decreasing the number of inodes in a filesystem can greatly reduce =2EXr fsck 8 recovery times after a crash. Do not use this option unless you are actually storing large files on the partition, because if you overcompensate you can wind up with a filesystem that has lots of free space remaining but cannot accomodate any more files. Using 32768, 65536, or 262144 bytes/inode is recommended. You can go higher but it will have only incremental effects on fsck recovery times. For example,=20 =2EEm newfs -i 32768 ... =2EPp Finally, increasing the =2EEm cylinders/group ratio has the effect of packing the inodes closer together. This can incre= ase directory performance and also decrease fsck times. If you use this option at all, we recommend maxing it out. Use =2EEm newfs -c 999 and newfs will error out and tell you what the maximum is, then use that. =2EPp =2EXr tunefs 8 may be used to further tune a filesystem. This command can be run in single-user mode without having to reformat the filesystem. However, this is possibly the most abused program in the system. Many people attempt to= =20 increase available filesystem space by setting the min-free percentage to 0. This can lead to severe filesystem fragmentation and we do not recommend that you do this. Really the only tunefs option worthwhile here is turning= on =2EEm softupdates with =2EEm tunefs -n enable /filesystem. (Note: In 5.x softupdates can be turned on using the -U option to newfs). Softupdates drastically improves meta-data performance, mainly file creation and deletion. We recommend turning softupdates on on all of your filesystems. There are two downsides to softupdates that you should be aware of: First, softupdates guarentees filesystem consistency in the case of a crash but could very easily be several seconds (even a minute!) behind updating the physical disk. If you crash you may lose more work then otherwise. Secondly, softupdates delays the freeing of filesystem blocks. If you have a filesystem (such as the root filesystem) which is=20 close to full, doing a major update of it, e.g. =2EEm make installworld, can run it out of space and cause the update to fail. =2ESh STRIPING DISKS In larger systems you can stripe partitions from several drives together to create a much larger overall partition. Striping can also improve the performance of a filesystem by splitting I/O operations across two or more disks. The =2EXr vinum 8=20 and =2EXr ccd 4 utilities may be used to create simple striped filesystems. Generally speaking, striping smaller partitions such as the root and /var/tmp, or essentially read-only partitions such as /usr is a complete waste of time. You should only stripe partitions that require serious I/O performan= ce... typically /var, /home, or custom partitions used to hold databases and web pages. Choosing the proper stripe size is also=20 important. Filesystems tend to store meta-data on power-of-2 boundries and you usually want to reduce seeking rather then increase seeking. This means you want to use a large off-center stripe size such as 1152 sectors so sequential I/O does not seek both disks and so meta-data is distributed across both disks rather then concentrated on a single disk. If you really need to get sophisticated, we recommend using a real hardware raid controller from the list of =2EFx supported controllers. =2ESh SYSCTL TUNING =2EPp There are several hundred =2EXr sysctl 8 variables in the system, including many that appear to be candidates for tuning but actually aren't. In this document we will only cover the ones that have the greatest effect on the system. =2EPp The =2EEm kern.ipc.shm_use_phys sysctl defaults to 0 (off) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). Setting this parameter to 1 will cause all SysV shared memory segments to be mapped to unpageable physical ram. This feature only has an effect if you are either (A) mapping small amounts of shared memory across many (hundreds) of processes, or (B) mapping large amounts of shared memory across any number of processes. This feature allows the kernel to remove a great deal of internal memory management page-tracking overhead at the cost of wiring the shared memory into core, making it unswappable. =2EPp The =2EEm vfs.vmiodirenable sysctl defaults to 0 (off) (though soon it will default to 1) and may be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on). This parameter controls how directories are cach= ed by the system. Most directories are small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the filesystem and even less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer cache. However, when operating in the default mode the buffer cache will only cache a fixed number of directories even if you have a huge amount of memory. Turning on this sysctl allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache to cache the directories. The advantage is that all of memory is now available for caching directories. The disadvantage is that the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the physical page size (typically 4K) rather then 512 bytes. We recommend turning this option on if you are running any services which manipulate large numbers of files. Such services can include web caches, large mail systems, and news systems. Turning on this option will generally not reduce performance even with the wasted memory but you should experiment to find out. =2EPp There are various buffer-cache and VM page cache related sysctls. We do not recommend messing around with these at all. As of =2EFx 4.3 , the VM system does an extremely good job tuning itself. =2EPp The =2EEm net.inet.tcp.sendspace and =2EEm net.inet.tcp.recvspace sysctls are of particular interest if you are running network intensive applications. This controls the amount of send and receive buffer space allowed for any given TCP connection. The default is 16K. You can often improve bandwidth utilization by increasing the default at the cost of=20 eating up more kernel memory for each connection. We do not recommend increasing the defaults if you are serving hundreds or thousands of simultanious connections because it is possible to quickly run the system out of memory due to stalled connections building up. But if you need high bandwidth over a fewer number of connections, especially if you have gigabit ethernet, increasing these defaults can make a huge difference. You can adjust the buffer size for incoming and outgoing data separately. For example, if your machine is primarily doing web serving you may want to decrease the recvspace in order to be able to increase the sendspace without eating too much kernel memory. Note that the route table, see =2EXr route 8 , can be used to introduce route-specific send and receive buffer size defaults. As an additional mangagement tool you can use pipes in your firewall rules, see =2EXr ipfw 8 , to limit the bandwidth going to or from particular IP blocks or ports. For example, if you have a T1 you might want to limit your web traffic to 70% of the T1's bandwidth in order to leave the remainder available for mail and interactive use. Normally a heavily loaded web server will not introduce significant latencies into other services even if=20 the network link is maxed out, but enforcing a limit can smooth things out and lead to longer term stability. Many people also enforce artificial bandwidth limitations in order to ensure that they are not charged for using too much bandwidth. =2EPp We recommend that you turn on (set to 1) and leave on the=20 =2EEm net.inet.tcp.always_keepalive control. The default is usually off. This introduces a small amount of additional network bandwidth but guarentees that dead tcp connections will eventually be recognized and cleared. Dead tcp connections are a particular problem on systems accesed by users operating over dialups, because users often disconnect their modems without properly closing active connections. =2EPp The =2EEm kern.ipc.somaxconn sysctl limits the size of the listen queue for accepting new tcp connection= s. The default value of 128 is typically too low for robust handling of new connections in a heavily loaded web server environment. For such environme= nts, we recommend increasing this value to 1024 or higher. The service daemon may itself limit the listen queue size (e.g. sendmail, apache) but will often have a directive in its configuration file to adjust the queue size u= p. Larger listen queue also do a better job of fending of denial of service attacks. =2ESh KERNEL CONFIG TUNING =2EPp There are a number of kernel options that you may have to fiddle with in a large scale system. In order to change these options you need to be able to compile a new kernel from source. The =2EXr config 8 manual page and the handbook are good starting points for learning how to do this. Generally the first thing you do when creating your own custom kernel is to strip out all the drivers and services you don't use. Removing things like =2EEm INET6 and drivers you don't have will reduce the size of your kernel, sometimes by a megabyte or more, leaving more memory available for applications. =2EPp The =2EEm maxusers kernel option defaults to an incredibly low value. For most modern machine= s, you probably want to increase this value to 64, 128, or 256. We do not=20 recommend going above 256 unless you need a huge number of file descriptors. Network buffers are also affected but can be controlled with a separate kernel option. Do not increase maxusers just to get more network mbufs. =2EPp =2EEm NMBCLUSTERS may be adjusted to increase the number of network mbufs the system is willing to allocate. Each cluster represents approximately 2K of memory, so a value of 1024 represents 2M of kernel memory reserved for network buffers. You can do a simple calculation to figure out how many you need. If you have a web server which maxes out at 1000 simultanious connections, and each connection eats a 16K receive and 16K send buffer, you need approximate 32MB worth of network buffers to deal with it. A good rule of thumb is to multiply by 2, so 32MBx2 =3D 64MB/2K =3D 32768. So for this ca= se you would want to se NMBCLUSTERS to 32768. We recommend values between 1024 and 4096 for machines with moderates amount of memory, and between 4096 and 32768 for machines with greater amounts of memory. Under no circumstan= ces should you specify an arbitrarily high value for this parameter, it could lead to a boot-time crash. The -m option to =2EXr netstat 1 may be used to observe network cluster use. =2EPp More and more programs are using the =2EFn sendfile system call to transmit files over the network. The =2EEm NSFBUFS kernel parameter controls the number of filesystem buffers =2EFn sendfile is allowed to use to perform its work. This parameter nominally scales with =2EEm maxusers so you should not need to mess with this parameter except under extreme circumstances. =2EPp =2EEm SCSI_DELAY and =2EEm IDE_DELAY may be used to reduce system boot times. The defaults are fairly high and can be responsible for 15+ seconds of delay in the boot process. Reducing SCSI_DELAY to 5 seconds usually works (especially with modern drives). Reducing IDE_DELAY also works but you have to be a little more careful. =2EPp There are a number of =2EEm XXX_CPU options that can be commented out. If you only want the kernel to run on a Pentium class cpu, you can easily remove =2EEm I386_CPU and =2EEm I486_CPU, but only remove =2EEm I586_CPU if you are sure your cpu is being recognized as a Pentium II or better. Some clones may be recognized as a pentium or even a 486 and not be able to boot without those options. If it works, great! The operating system will be able to better-use higher-end cpu features for mmu, task switching, timebase, and even device operations. Additionally, higher-end cpus support 4MB MMU pages which the kernel uses to map the kernel itself into memory, which increases its efficiency under heavy syscall loads. =2ESh IDE WRITE CACHING As of =2EFx 4.3 , IDE write caching is turned off by default. This will reduce write bandwid= th to IDE disks but is considered necessary due to serious data consistency issues introduced by hard drive vendors. Basically the problem is that=20 IDE drives lie about when a write completes. With IDE write caching turned on, IDE hard drives will not only write data to disk out of order, they will sometimes delay some of the blocks indefinitely when under heavy disk loads. A crash or power failure can result in serious filesystem corruption. So our default is to be safe. If you are willing to risk filesystem corruption, you can return to the old behavior by setting the hw.ata.wc kernel variable back to 1. This must be done from the boot loader at boot time. Please see =2EXr ata 4 , and =2EXr loader 8 . =2EPp There is a new experimental feature for IDE hard drives called hw.ata.tags (you also set this in the bootloader) which allows write caching to be safe= ly turned on. This brings SCSI tagging features to IDE drives. As of this writing only IBM DPTA and DTLA drives support the feature. =2ESh CPU, MEMORY, DISK, NETWORK The type of tuning you do depends heavily on where your system begins to bottleneck as load increases. If your system runs out of cpu (idle times are pepetually 0%) then you need to consider upgrading the cpu or moving to an SMP motherboard (multiple cpu's), or perhaps you need to revisit the programs that are causing the load and try to optimize them. If your system is paging to swap a lot you need to consider adding more memory. If your system is saturating the disk you typically see high cpu idle times and total disk saturation. =2EXr systat 1 can be used to monitor this. There are many solutions to saturated disks: increasing memory for caching, mirroring disks, distributing operations acr= oss several machines, and so forth. If disk performance is an issue and you are using IDE drives, switching to SCSI can help a great deal. While modern IDE drives compare with SCSI in raw sequential bandwidth, the moment you start seeking around the disk SCSI drives usually win. =2EPp Finally, you might run out of network suds. The first line of defense for improving network performance is to make sure you are using switches instead of hubs, especially these days where switches are almost as cheap. Hubs have severe problems under heavy loads due to collision backoff and one bad host can severely degrade the entire LAN. Second, optimize the network path as much as possible. For example, in=20 =2EXr firewall 7 we describe a firewall protecting internal hosts with a topology where the externally visible hosts are not routed through it. Use 100BaseT rather then 10BaseT, or use 1000BaseT rather then 100BaseT, depending on your need= s. Most bottlenecks occur at the WAN link (e.g. modem, T1, DSL, whatever). If expanding the link is not an option it may be possible to use ipfw's =2ESy DUMMYNET feature to implement peak shaving or other forms of traffic shaping to prevent the overloaded service (such as web services) from effecting other services (such as email), or vise versa. In home installations this could be used to give interactive traffic (your browser, ssh logins) priority over services you export from your box (web services, email). =2ESh SEE ALSO =2EPp =2EXr ata 4 , =2EXr boot 8 , =2EXr ccd 4 , =2EXr config 8 , =2EXr disklabel 8 , =2EXr firewall 7 , =2EXr fsck 8 , =2EXr hier 7 , =2EXr ifconfig 8 , =2EXr ipfw 8 , =2EXr loader 8 , =2EXr login.conf 5 , =2EXr netstat 1 , =2EXr newfs 8 , =2EXr ports 7 , =2EXr route 8 , =2EXr sysctl 8 , =2EXr systat 1 , =2EXr tunefs 8 , =2EXr vinum 8 =2ESh HISTORY The =2ENm manual page was originally written by =2EAn Matthew Dillon and first appeared=20 in =2EFx 4.3 , May 2001. --bvgsfYmVhxWy/2TA-- --WZLuFERxa6Y0cbOt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7F+2fM0BPTilkv0YRAkbiAJ93dLYmVyOa1pIOVJ+KPgYvFhirFgCgt7Ic TVv0ojvyiKYj7p+HVinjfDQ= =O0tW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WZLuFERxa6Y0cbOt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 12:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.assalom.com (ns.assalom.com [64.65.58.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A854137B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apache@assalom.com) Received: by ns.assalom.com (Postfix, from userid 103) id 3AF6C18248; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:09:56 -0400 (EDT) From: webmaster1@netlane.com To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Этому нет аналогов!!! 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URL: http://www.database.ussr.com email: database@netlane.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 13:36:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505C237B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rqtucker@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.8.11.73]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010601203640.GSVT19583.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:36:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3B17FCD0.6C55B883@home.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:36:32 -0500 From: Robert Tucker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Getting the floppy images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to do this from scratch and it is already turning hard! First I got my floppies ready (4 of them) and then clicked on the boot.flp, but instead of going into ftp mode it tried to display the file. I then notices that the boot.flp image is 2880 kb. (I don't have a floppy that big.) I then clicked on fixit.flp with the same results. Where have I gone wrong? Could the HTML be the problem? I checked further and two files were downloaded, they were list as: M0rnjkfl.flp and M1iehrdm.flp. Are these the files? Thanks, Robert rqtucker@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 13:52: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FEB37B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f51Kpvr24123; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:51:57 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:51:57 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Robert Tucker Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Getting the floppy images Message-ID: <20010601135156.A18306@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <3B17FCD0.6C55B883@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B17FCD0.6C55B883@home.com>; from rqtucker@home.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:36:32PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:36:32PM -0500, Robert Tucker wrote: > I am trying to do this from scratch and it is already turning hard! > First I got my floppies ready (4 of them) and then clicked on the > boot.flp, but instead of going into ftp mode it tried to display the > file. I then notices that the boot.flp image is 2880 kb. (I don't have a > floppy that big.) I then clicked on fixit.flp with the same results. > Where have I gone wrong? Could the HTML be the problem? Your first problem is that you need to do what ever your browser requires to save the files instead of viewing them. In Netscape that means right clicking and selecting the "Save link as..." option or shift-left clicking the link. If you use another browser, you'll have to figure it out yourself. The second problem is that you don't want boot.flp since as you noticed, it won't fit. As the README.TXT file in the floppies directory says, you want kern.flp and mfsroot.flp. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. 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URL: http://www.database.ussr.com email: database@netlane.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 15: 8:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from evilfry.dyndns.org (dyn15ppp140.qala.com.sg [210.193.15.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5A837B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:08:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@evilfry.dyndns.org) Received: by evilfry.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 0) id 0C68F183BDE; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:11:15 +0800 (SGT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: James Lim Reply-To: evilfry@sg.freebsd.org To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Singapore mirror Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 06:11:04 +0800 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01060206110401.00726@evilfry.dyndns.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi. =09I do not know who exactly to mail to regarding this..but i hope you c= an=20 help me. I need to add ftp.sg.freebsd.org to the list of FTP mirrors list= ed=20 on www.freebsd.org. As well as cvsup.sg.freebsd.org to the list of cvsup=20 mirrors. And who should I email to regarding adding of the hosts for acce= ss=20 to the main ftp server and main cvsup server for updates as I hope it can= be=20 an official Singapore Mirror. - --=20 Regards, James Lim http://sg.freebsd.org | http://www.bsd-geeks.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOxgS+ZpTakonTMbIEQLFiACg6ljaDCbLDCSwU3tsplkSUrrcqAQAoK13 lrPc5mgyoLbqS3d7oLfuYDtN =3Dn/F9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 20: 0:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E0737B627; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5230OF86372; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:00:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106020300.f5230OF86372@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27807: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] The port variables for optional packages aren't documented State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 1 20:00:09 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27807 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 21: 0:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D9437B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f52405P92872; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106020400.f52405P92872@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: docs/23767: ifconfig(8) manual page does not document the ``ether'' parameter. Reply-To: Brooks Davis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/23767; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brooks Davis To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/23767: ifconfig(8) manual page does not document the ``ether'' parameter. Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:53:24 -0700 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following patch corrects this error with slightly better mdoc style then the origional. I checked, and this does document reality. -- Brooks Index: ifconfig.8 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.8,v retrieving revision 1.39 diff -u -r1.39 ifconfig.8 --- ifconfig.8 2001/05/29 09:13:44 1.39 +++ ifconfig.8 2001/06/02 02:20:48 @@ -204,6 +207,10 @@ transmit messages through that interface.=20 If possible, the interface will be reset to disable reception as well. This action does not automatically disable routes using the interface. +.It Cm ether +Another name for the +.Dq lladdr +parameter. .\" .It Cm ipdst .\" This is used to specify an Internet host who is willing to receive .\" ip packets encapsulating NS packets bound for a remote network. --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GGMzXY6L6fI4GtQRAiH0AKCXY8PJYtxsY1ioNUhoYgrBzf1LYwCfeQCD fFL5Vo9B8GdSYlsar8t2Zsk= =ORwK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 21: 6:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8508037B424; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5246Af96043; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106020406.f5246Af96043@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mux@qualys.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/23767: ifconfig(8) manual page does not document the ``ether'' parameter. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ifconfig(8) manual page does not document the ``ether'' parameter. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 1 21:05:55 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -current, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Jun 1 21:05:55 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23767 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 1 22:21:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002DD37B422; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102032055.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.32.55]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA13261; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:21:22 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Illustrated Installation Guide Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:22:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01053012311102.00379@k6-2.weeble.com> <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <20010531140239.A2713@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01060201221801.00368@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the delay in responding (family obligations). On Thursday 31 May 2001 09:02, you wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:31:11PM -0400, Randy Pratt wrote: > > I finished the first pass of the installation guide in sgml format. Since > > this is my first attempt, I'm sure there's still work that needs to be > > done (sgml and content). > > > > I've no objections to any adding/cutting/editing to make the documents > > better or more general. I'd like Nik to decide how to best proceed with > > handling the committing/revisions. I'm a little fuzzy on those details. > > Some bullet points as they occur. > > * commit content changes and whitespace changes > separately Yep. I understand the need to make it easy for translation teams. > * It's probably worth breaking this down in to chapter.sgml files before > import. No problem. I'll get to work on this shortly. > * If we can, I'd like to get as many of the .png images converted to > the .scr format instead as possible -- otherwise we'll be bloating > the repo with the PNG images unecessarily. I'm also going to review the actual need for images in some places, replacing them with plain text where possible. > * In the "Documentation" section, does it need to include the > documentation that's with the installer verbatim, or is it just > sufficient to show the user that it's there? Including it verbatim > adds to the work required to maintain this between releases. Not necessary at all. They'll be removed in the conversion to chapter.sgml. > * s/cdrom/CDROM/ everywhere Yep. If anyone spots any other things like this just let me know. > * I can't shake the nagging feeling that this should be in the > Handbook, maybe with a slight reorganisation. . . > > Bring chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 together as sections in a chapter, > "Before you install". > > Chapters 7 through 13 become sections in a "Carrying out the install" > chapter. > > Chapters 14 onwards become sections in a "Post-installation" chapter. > > Maybe. > > Or perhaps we need an "Installation" in the Handbook (as we > have "Getting Started", "System Administration", "Network > Communications" and other parts) which this could be the content of. I'll give some thought to this and see if I can come up with something. Its good sgml practice too. > * There are a couple of mini mark-up nits, but nothing major. > > I don't think any of these should be considered 'show stoppers' though. Thanks. I'll reread the fdp-primer and get a refresher. 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Amendment I, The US Constitution To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 2:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06D837B42C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f529K1s38811; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6931A37B43C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f529HsH38695; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200106020917.f529HsH38695@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: opentrax@email.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/27833: No man page for locate.rc Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27833 >Category: docs >Synopsis: No man page for locate.rc >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 02 02:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jesse Monroy, Jr. >Release: 3.5.1 >Organization: Digital Marshalls >Environment: FreeBSD spammie.svbug.com 3.5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.5.1-RELEASE #0: Wed Sep 13 20:07:41 PDT 2000 jessem@spammie.svbug.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GATEWAY i386 >Description: locate.updatedb(8) says the locate db can be controlled by /etc/locate.rc. There is no example rc file, nor is locate.rc documented in a man page. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Since locate.updatedb is a shell script, here are some notes to get a man page started. Documenter please note you may verify these notes by reading /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb --------------------- /etc/locate.rc can be used to change the default behaviour of locate.updatedb(8). Since, /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb is a shell script, there are several parameters which can be overwritten. The following issues effect the out come, or may give cause to use locate.rc: o...Your system mounts more that ufs (Unix File System). o...locate.updatedb support programs are not stored in /usr/libexec:/bin:/usr/bin, or ${PATH} of user running locate.updatedb o...The database is not stored in the usual location (/var/db) o...You want to setup locate(1) for a diskless system, systems that are chroot(2|8)'d, or systems that the default root directory is not '/'. o...You want to exclude world readable directories, other than the usual temporary directories. (/tmp /usr/tmp /var/tmp) o...You want to create a locate(1) database for a mountable file system, like nfs or cdrom. Again, with the following parameters for locate.rc, write them as sh(1) variables. LIBEXECDIR Directory the subprograms are stored. TMPDIR Temporary directory to use. FCODES Final datbase name. SEARCHPATHS The directories to put in the database. PRUNEPATHS Paths you want to exclude from the database. FILESYSTEMS The types of file systems you want to include. (As a 'find' parameter) The following parameter should not be changed, but are included for completeness. mklocatedb The program run to create the datebase. find The program run to create the list of files for the 'mklocatedb' program. The following example script stores the database in the file '/var/db/locate.cdrom'. It only searches the directories below '/cdrom'. And it sets the file system type to 'rdonly' (read only). # # Here is an example for a iso-9660 cdrom # FCODES=/var/db/locate.cdrom SEARCHPATHS=/cdrom FILESYSTEMS=rdonly See Also sh(1), locate.db(8), find(1), chroot(2), chroot(8) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 3: 9:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web14704.mail.yahoo.com (web14704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32BEC37B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sule_dikko@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010602100933.13664.qmail@web14704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.96.2.102] by web14704.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:09:33 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:09:33 -0700 (PDT) From: sule dikko Subject: GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY To: sule_dikko@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FIRST,WE SEEK YOUR KIND ASSISTANCE AND CONFIDENTIALITY TO OUR BUSINESS PROPOSAL WHICH INVOLVE HUGE TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM OUR FOREIGN RESERVE ACCOUNT INTO YOUR NOMINATED ACCOUNT. 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 7:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD6C37B43C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f52EU5R78531; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106021430.f52EU5R78531@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Pete Fritchman Subject: Re: docs/27833: No man page for locate.rc Reply-To: Pete Fritchman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/27833; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Pete Fritchman To: opentrax@email.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/27833: No man page for locate.rc Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:20:40 -0400 ++ 02/06/01 02:17 -0700 - opentrax@email.com: | /etc/locate.rc. There is no example rc file, nor is locate.rc | documented in a man page. I have an /etc/locate.rc on 4-STABLE. As well as /usr/share/examples/etc/locate.rc. -pete -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 11:43:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876737B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52IfCx24689; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:41:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:41:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Robert Tucker Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Getting the floppy images Message-ID: <20010602194109.B23098@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B17FCD0.6C55B883@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B17FCD0.6C55B883@home.com>; from rqtucker@home.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:36:32PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:36:32PM -0500, Robert Tucker wrote: > I am trying to do this from scratch and it is already turning hard! > First I got my floppies ready (4 of them)=20 Why do you think you need four disks? Have you read ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.3-RELEASE/floppies/README= .TXT > and then clicked on the > boot.flp,=20 Where did it tell you to download boot.flp? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsZM0UACgkQk6gHZCw343WWSACgjDokL2XEu6ryrgXagJR28+Ka 1fEAnjJu3D79G/CSTpEiJmzB6xvwVgH5 =1QEk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uQr8t48UFsdbeI+V-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 15: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5EA37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:01:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: from WhizKid (r40.bfm.org [216.127.220.136]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:05:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010602170106.00e2bb60@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:01:06 -0500 To: doc@freebsd.org From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Typo in 6.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Developer's Handbook has a typo in Chapter 6, section 6.5, 4th sentence: "does not actually take affect". That should be effect, not affect. Cheers, Adam --- http://phonecowboy.com/registrar/twist/ finds a good domain for you and checks for its existence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 2 19: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CC837B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f53201J86055; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7906D37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 51271 invoked by uid 100); 3 Jun 2001 01:53:04 -0000 Message-Id: <20010603015304.51270.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 3 Jun 2001 01:53:04 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/27843: [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't documented. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27843 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't documented. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 02 19:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #17: Sun May 27 08:47:01 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The various WITH_* and WITHOUT_* variables in the ports make system aren't documented. >How-To-Repeat: Read the make.conf man page, and notice they aren't there. >Fix: Here's a patch for the make.conf man page to add documentation for all of those variables. --- make.conf.5 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 +++ /tmp/make.conf.5 Sat Jun 2 20:50:02 2001 @@ -727,6 +727,51 @@ .Pq Vt bool Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that need to can attempt to comply with U.S. export regulations. +.It Va WITH_ESOUND / WITHOUT_ESOUND +.Pq Vt bool +Set WITH_ESOUND to indicate that ports for which ESOUND support is optional +should use it. +Set WITHOUT_ESOUND to indicate that ports for which ESOUND support is +optional should not use it. +If neither is set, ESOUND support will be provided if the +.Pa audio/esound +package is already available. +.It Va WITH_GLIB / WITHOUT_GLIB +.Pq Vt bool +Set WITH_GLIB to indicate that ports for which GLIB is optional should +use it. +Set WITHOUT_GLIB to indicate that ports for which GLIB is optional +should not use it. +If neither is set, GLIB will be used if one of the +.Pa devel/glib +packages is already available. +.It Va WITH_GNOME / WITHOUT_GNOME +.Pq Vt bool +Set WITH_GNOME to indicate that ports for which GNOME support is optional +should use it. +Set WITHOUT_GNOME to indicate that ports for which GNOME support is +optional should not use it. +If neither is set, GNOME support will be provided if the +.Pa x11/gnome +package is already available. +.It Va WITH_GTK / WITHOUT_GTK +.Pq Vt bool +Set WITH_GTK to indicate that ports for which GTK is optional should +use it. +Set WITHOUT_GTK to indicate that ports for which GTK is optional +should not use it. +If neither is set, GTK will be used if one of the +.Pa x11-toolkits/gtk +packages is already available. +.It Va WITH_IMLIB / WITHOUT_IMLIB +.Pq Vt bool +Set WITH_IMLIB to indicate that ports for which IMLIB is optional should +use it. +Set WITHOUT_IMLIB to indicate that ports for which IMLIB is optional +should not use it. +If neither is set, IMLIB will be used if the +.Pa graphics/imlib +package is already available. .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX .Pq Vt str Where to create temporary files used when building ports. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message