From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 0:50:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx28.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp6-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E76C37B401 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:50:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp) From: 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:50:44 +0900 Message-ID: <3b359bd4.000e33f2N0@docomo.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 0:57: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx25.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp3-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BFC037B407 for ; 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charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 1: 5:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx25.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp3-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 190D637B401 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp) From: 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:05:03 +0900 Message-ID: <3b359f2f.00096609N0@docomo.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 1: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx25.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp3-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7887C37B405 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp) From: 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:05:20 +0900 Message-ID: <3b359f40.0001094bN0@docomo.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 1: 5:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx24.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp2-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 117F137B405 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp) From: 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:05:30 +0900 Message-ID: <3b359f4a.0004f961N1@docomo.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 4:44:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D236337B405; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 04:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5OBiCp30879 ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:44:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA18384 ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:45:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:45:14 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Murray Stokely Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook section on X11 (more additions) Message-ID: <20010624134514.F15588@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010622181714.G7647@lpt.ens.fr> <20010622110847.D61336@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010622110847.D61336@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:08:47AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Another patch for the x11/chapter.sgml handbook file. I've added a small section on XFCE, corrected a few typos, and inserted a forward reference in the XDM section to the KDM section, under the title "Alternatives to XDM". As before, it's on http://www.lpt.ens.fr/~rsidd/handbook-x11-chapter.diff Would an expanded version of the antialiased fonts thing be useful, perhaps with some simple sample XftConfig file? R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 10:34:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.23.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9656037B401 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-marketing@mail.ru) Received: from bmstu-icn.bmstu.ru ([195.19.33.92] helo=localhost) by smtp6.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 15EDlu-0009LN-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:34:06 +0400 X-Sender: e-marketing@mail.ru Subject: Job Offer From: e-marketing@mail.ru To: "doc@FreeBSD.org" X-Priority: 1 Reply-To: e-marketing@mail.ru Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:04:58 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailLibrary: Internet Mail Template 3.03, http://www.Princen-IT.nl/Clarion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5!! =C2=E0=F1 =EF=F0=E8=E2=E5=F2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E5=F2 e-Marketing Center. =CF=F0=E5=E4=EB=E0=E3=E0=E5=EC =C2=E0=EC =F0=E5=E0=EB=FC=ED=FB=E5 =F1=EF=EE= =F1=EE=E1=FB =E7=E0=F0=EE=E1=EE=F2=EA=E0. =CA=EE=ED=F2=E5=ED=F2 =ED=E0=F8=E5=E3=EE =EF=F0=E5=E4=EB=EE=E6=E5=ED=E8=FF= : -Multi-Level-Marketing-=EF=F0=EE=E3=F0=E0=EC=EC=E0 =EC=E3=ED=EE=E2=E5=ED=ED= =EE=E3=EE =E7=E0=F0=EE=E1=EE=F2=EA=E0 -=C2=EE=E7=EC=EE=E6=ED=EE=F1=F2=FC =EF=EE=EB=F3=F7=E5=ED=E8=FF =E1=E5=F1=EF= =EB=E0=F2=ED=FB=F5 =EA=E0=F0=F2 Visa, American Express, Master Card -=C1=E5=F1=EF=EB=E0=F2=ED=FB=E5 e-Marketing Books-=F2=E5=F5=ED=EE=EB=EE=E3= =E8=FF =F0=E0=F1=EF=F0=EE=F1=F2=F0=E0=ED=E5=ED=E8=FF =E8 =EF=F0=EE=E4=E0=E6= =E8 -=CB=F3=F7=F8=E8=E5 =EF=F0=EE=E3=F0=E0=EC=EC=FB =EF=F0=E8=E2=EB=E5=F7=E5=ED= =E8=FF =F0=E5=F4=F4=E5=F0=E0=EB=EE=E2 -=CF=EE=E4=EF=E8=F1=EA=E0 =ED=E0 =F1=F0=E0=F1=F1=FB=EB=EA=F3 =EF=E8=F1=E5= =EC =EE =E2=E8=F0=F2=F3=E0=EB=FC=ED=EE=EC =EC=E0=F0=EA=E5=F2=E8=ED=E3=E5-= =E1=E5=F1=EF=EB=E0=F2=ED=FB=E5 =F0=E5=EA=EE=EC=E5=ED=E4=E0=F6=E8=E8 =E8 =F2.=E4. =CF=EE=E4=F0=EE=E1=ED=E0=FF =E8=ED=F4=EE=F0=EC=E0=F6=E8=FF =ED=E0 =ED=E0=F8= =E5=EC =F1=E0=E9=F2=E5 http://www.e-marketing.boom.ru =D1 =F3=E2=E0=E6=E5=ED=E8=E5=EC, e-Marketing Center =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =D1=EE=EE=E1=F9=E5=ED=E8=E5 =F1=E3=E5=ED=E5=F0=E8=F0=EE=E2=E0=ED=EE =EF=EE= =F7=F2=EE=E2=EE=E9 =EF=F0=EE=E3=F0=E0=EC=EC=EE=E9 =E4=EB=FF =F0=E0=F1=F1=FB= =EB=EA=E8 =ED=EE=E2=EE=F1=F2=E5=E9 NewsMailer v1.3 Download: http://www.softtrade.ru/filez/emailer.zip Please go to http://www.softtrade.ru= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 11:45: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD4237B401; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (logo@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5OIhcB04363; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logo@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:43:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Valentino Vaschetto To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Murray Stokely , Subject: Re: Handbook section on X11 (more additions) In-Reply-To: <20010624134514.F15588@lpt.ens.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org :Would an expanded version of the antialiased fonts thing be useful, :perhaps with some simple sample XftConfig file? A sample XftConfig file would be useful I think. Thanks for the last patch too. -val To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 24 11:58:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.port.ru (mx6.port.ru [194.67.23.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC2E337B443 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-marketing@mail.ru) Received: from bmstu-icn.bmstu.ru ([195.19.33.92] helo=localhost) by smtp6.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 15EF5o-000LcU-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:58:44 +0400 X-Sender: e-marketing@mail.ru Subject: Job Offer From: e-marketing@mail.ru To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org" X-Priority: 1 Reply-To: e-marketing@mail.ru Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 23:06:07 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailLibrary: Internet Mail Template 3.03, http://www.Princen-IT.nl/Clarion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =C7=E4=F0=E0=E2=F1=F2=E2=F3=E9=F2=E5!! 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However, if you want to kick start the project by submitting links then please do so. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=13950 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 6:28:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F79137B405; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PDSWJ55675; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:28:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106251328.f5PDSWJ55675@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13967: FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 25 06:27:56 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: No committer has stepped forward, and I don't see any followup from the originatpr. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=13967 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 6:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.advancedmicro.com (AdvMicro-Frac-210.OneCall.Net [216.37.31.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E137B406 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JStanczak@advancedmicro.com) Received: by AME_EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:37:14 -0500 Message-ID: <46DA8B6DE0E0D211B57500805F19505F7855D2@AME_EXCHANGE> From: Justin Stanczak To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Newest version. Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:37:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the newest stable version of freebsd? Where is the best place to download it? Is there a version that would be better suited for a Java programmer? Thank You To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 6:42:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from corleone.idealab.com (mx2.idealab.com [64.208.8.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DB6D37B406 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@compete.com) Received: (qmail 8123 invoked by alias); 25 Jun 2001 13:42:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 8083 invoked from network); 25 Jun 2001 13:42:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cartman.boston.geekhouse.net) (10.5.1.109) by corleone.idealab.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 13:42:17 -0000 Received: by cartman.boston.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 461C63206; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:42:07 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: Justin Stanczak Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: Newest version. Message-ID: <20010625094207.A796@cartman.boston.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@compete.com References: <46DA8B6DE0E0D211B57500805F19505F7855D2@AME_EXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46DA8B6DE0E0D211B57500805F19505F7855D2@AME_EXCHANGE> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 at 08:37:12 -0500, Justin Stanczak wrote: > What is the newest stable version of freebsd? Where is the best place > to download it? Is there a version that would be better suited for a > Java programmer? Thank You http://www.FreeBSD.org/ There's a big yellow box on the front page that tells you what you want to know. - jim -- - jim mock www.compete.com - jim@FreeBSD.org - - senior systems administrator - Compete, Inc. - ph: 1.617.867.7035 - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 7: 3:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D899D37B407; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PE3ms49754; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106251403.f5PE3ms49754@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bobj@atlantic.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/18379: Information on SSH hard to find in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Information on SSH hard to find in Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 25 06:58:38 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Lots of info about ssh was recently committed to the Handbook. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/openssh.html for more. Thanks for the PR. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18379 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 8: 5:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B3937B405; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PF5EW70570; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:05:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106251505.f5PF5EW70570@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yusufg@outblaze.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/20794: Request 2 good documents under people.freebsd.org to be incorporated into handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Request 2 good documents under people.freebsd.org to be incorporated into handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 25 08:04:22 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: I've committed these as separate articles. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20794 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 8:11:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web14802.mail.yahoo.com (web14802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D638037B405 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhamming2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010625151150.2695.qmail@web14802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.248.85.196] by web14802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:11:50 PDT Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John Doe Subject: tutorial for practical security To: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200106251505.f5PF5EW70570@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hey, i wrote this little tutorial a while ago for some new users wanting to secure their freebsd box. the link is http://www.tbug.org/fbsd.html. is it possible to incorporate that into the tutorial section? bruce\ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 8:32:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5621237B401 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5OIRe200668; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:27:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:27:40 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Malcolm McGrath Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FAQ-- a request for an addition to it: Message-ID: <20010624192740.B297@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <001f01c054e8$ea898200$28ba26cb@apollo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001f01c054e8$ea898200$28ba26cb@apollo>; from mjmac@pineview.net on Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 11:31:18AM +1030 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 23, 2000 at 11:31:18AM +1030, Malcolm McGrath wrote: > Could you please add in the FAQ that you will need to recompile the kernel > somewhere in the section of the FAQ below. Done. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs2MRsACgkQk6gHZCw343XohgCgil8dTuFF1ya0bf//6cpP0eXQ 1oQAn36KhepVFFGq5IP1w/ZHwIkjylvG =8kEd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hHWLQfXTYDoKhP50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 8:32:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2724837B406 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5OHTEQ00448; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:29:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:29:14 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Corey Sklenicka Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cpio across network Message-ID: <20010624182914.A297@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <4.3.1.2.20000707062946.00ad8100@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000707062946.00ad8100@192.168.0.1>; from corey@cloudnet.com on Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 06:37:06AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 07, 2000 at 06:37:06AM -0500, Corey Sklenicka wrote: > I noticed you had (XXX add an example command here) in the Handbook under= =20 > the 11.3.3 Cpio section. Just thought I'd send what I use in case you=20 > didn't have any working examples. >=20 > for f in ; do > find $f >>backup.list > done >=20 > cpio -v -o --format=3Dnewc < backup.list | ssh @ "cat >= =20 > /dev/" Committed, thanks. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs2I2gACgkQk6gHZCw343XoFgCgiEbtOw3IvutAv5PLpVKSBXx3 e0kAnA7f1S11j0wktZ7l8SWKIesp5LsE =VG4Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 8:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDBA37B406; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PFnFY78097; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106251549.f5PFnFY78097@freefall.freebsd.org> To: opentrax@email.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/23292: /etc/dumpdates is not documented in section 5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: /etc/dumpdates is not documented in section 5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Mon Jun 25 08:48:58 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Closed at submitters request. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 10:32:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB7637B406; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5PHWUj18271; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:32:30 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Nik, Do you mind if I turn on the index for the FreeBSD Handbook like I did for the Developer's Handbook? It looks quite nice now with several hundred index entries. I should be able to index at least one more chapter this afternoon. Any complaints about the way I'm implementing the index? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 25 11: 0:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E3437B407 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PI0Md96957 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106251800.f5PI0Md96957@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver f [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/15] docs/25837 docs [PATCH] properly document vfc_flags in ge o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/03/28] docs/26194 doc BSD Family Tree needs updated o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/14] docs/26574 doc Incorrect link in individual ports README o [2001/04/18] docs/26692 doc boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in o [2001/04/21] misc/26742 doc misleading information in handbook o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/02] docs/27027 doc Update src/share/misc/iso639 o [2001/05/02] docs/27040 doc rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l o [2001/05/08] docs/27209 doc [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u o [2001/05/14] docs/27320 doc excessively vague information in pppoe pa o [2001/05/18] docs/27430 doc Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/05/29] docs/27731 doc Incorrect example code in dev handbook ca o [2001/05/29] docs/27758 doc ptrace(2) man page outdated o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/02] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/06] docs/27921 doc manpage skey(1) should be skey(7) o [2001/06/09] docs/28000 doc adding and changing information in vidcon o [2001/06/13] docs/28128 doc small change to jail(8) man page s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/20] docs/28306 doc docbook.css and OBJDIR o [2001/06/23] docs/28371 doc malloc(2) man page correction 64 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 1:42:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F7637B401; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5Q8gCN54796; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106260842.f5Q8gCN54796@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, wollman@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21826: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ARP proxy feature lacks documentation Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->wollman Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 01:40:55 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Garrett, please document your changes in if_ether.c,v 1.4. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21826 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 3:58:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx24.docomo.ne.jp (fwisp2-ext-n.docomo.ne.jp [210.136.161.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59FFF37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:58:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp) From: 09056072013@docomo.ne.jp To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:58:16 +0900 Message-ID: <3b386ac8.0008bd40N0@docomo.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 4:25:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd.org (w116.z209220237.phl-pa.dsl.cnc.net [209.220.237.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B2037B406 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from offer@findmybusiness.com) From: offer@findmybusienss.com Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:39:10 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Sell Your Business? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 4:41:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7862B37B442; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5PJdUP00969; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:39:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:39:14 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray.stokely@windriver.com on Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:32:30AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:32:30AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Do you mind if I turn on the index for the FreeBSD Handbook like I > did for the Developer's Handbook? It looks quite nice now with > several hundred index entries. I should be able to index at least one > more chapter this afternoon. Any complaints about the way I'm > implementing the index? Looks OK. I'm thinking we might leave GEN_INDEX off by default in the Makefiles, and turn it on when doing 'official' web builds. It drastically increases the build time for documents with lots of index entries. Thoughts? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs3k1wACgkQk6gHZCw343UblACfffBUAyR5iQ2j1TM68MXCKI8u PoYAn22lW75KQPYvmzhOjxJ85BQZ2DyI =OoDu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 9:25:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9FA37B401; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5QGPo234927; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 09:25:50 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010626092550.A34150@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:39:14PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:39:14PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Looks OK. > > I'm thinking we might leave GEN_INDEX off by default in the Makefiles, > and turn it on when doing 'official' web builds. It drastically > increases the build time for documents with lots of index entries. > > Thoughts? According to : file:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/doc/indexing.html we can speed up the doc build by adding IDs to each indexterm. This definitely sounds like something we should investigate. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 12:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571F937B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QJK1356221; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi [193.166.84.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6133237B416 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi) Received: (from chu@localhost) by h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QJJVb67828; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:19:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from chu) Message-Id: <200106261919.f5QJJVb67828@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 22:19:31 +0300 (EEST) From: Vladimir Tchoukharev Reply-To: chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28425: Typo in handbook 13.5.1.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28425 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in handbook 13.5.1.4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 26 12:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Vladimir Tchoukharev >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #1: Fri Jun 1 09:49:21 EEST 2001 root@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H33 i386 >Description: In the handbook in section "13.5.1.4. MS-DOS FS and Russian Filenames" line /dev/ad0s2 /dos/c msdos rw,-W=koi2dos,-L=ru_RU.KOI8-R 0 0 IMHO should read /dev/ad0s2 /dos/c msdos rw,-Wkoi2dos,-Lru_RU.KOI8-R 0 0 >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 12:43:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109BE37B427; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QJhH057686; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106261943.f5QJhH057686@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28425: Typo in handbook 13.5.1.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in handbook 13.5.1.4 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 12:43:08 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28425 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 13:16: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBE037B405; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5QKFs838632; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:15:54 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010626131554.I34150@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:39:14PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:39:14PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > I'm thinking we might leave GEN_INDEX off by default in the Makefiles, > and turn it on when doing 'official' web builds. It drastically > increases the build time for documents with lots of index entries. GEN_INDEX doesn't control whether or not book.sgml looks for index.sgml, so if we do this, we will have to commit a null index.sgml file or add more intelligence in the GEN_INDEX case. What we really need is a conditional entity, &chap.index, that varies depending on whether GEN_INDEX is set. I'm sure this can be done, but I don't know how. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 13:17:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D388E37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QKH5l01666; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:17:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:17:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rich Morin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: miscellaneous nits, quibbles, typos, etc. Message-ID: <20010626211704.B461@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rdm@cfcl.com on Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:15:09PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 10:15:09PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > All of these were found on FreeBSD 4.1 (Intel): >=20 > /etc/apmd.conf >=20 > # apmd Configration File > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > # apmd Configration ends here > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Configuration Fixed. > /etc/mtree/* >=20 > Each of these files refers to a README file, but no README is > available in the directory. There _is_ a README in the src > directory, /usr/src/etc/mtree. Fixed. > hier(7) >=20 > There is no entry for /compat. The Complete FreeBSD (Greg Lehey, > 3rd ed., pp. 230-231) says: >=20 > "A directory containing code for emulated systems, such as Linux." >=20 > Some might quibble, however, with the term "emulated". Besides, > /compat is now a symlink to /usr/compat. >=20 >=20 > There is no entry for /cdrom. TCF says: >=20 > "A mount point for CD-ROM drives." >=20 >=20 > There is no entry for /dist. Is this a mount point for > distributions? >=20 >=20 > "kerberosIV/ configuration files for the kerberos version IV;" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > version IV of Kerberos;" >=20 >=20 > "mail/ spam-filtering information" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Sendmail control files Fixed. > hosts.equiv(5) >=20 > "hosts.equiv, .rhosts - trusted remote host name and user data base" > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > and user name Fixed. > named(8) >=20 > soon as it is finshed processing command line arguments. > ^^^^^^^ > finished >=20 > The FILES section says that /etc/named.conf is the > "default name server configuration file". The file > has been moved to /etc/namedb. >=20 > overriden on a per-zone basis by includinga transfer-source > ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ > overridden including a >=20 >=20 > ndc(8) >=20 > The BUGS sections says that ndc is "Implemented as a sh(1) > script". Aside from the question of whether this would be > a bug at all, the command is, in fact, a binary executable. Can you pass this on to the BIND group -- when they fix it, we'll pull it in automatically. > whatis(1) >=20 > When I run whatis(1) on inetd.conf, it says: >=20 > "inetd.conf(5), inetd(5) - internet super-server" =46rom what I can tell, this is a bug in makewhatis, src/gnu/usr.bin/makewhatis/. I'll probably not have the time to track it down -- it might be a good idea to send-pr this one. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs47b4ACgkQk6gHZCw343UZPwCfQ2AgmCSDus325H/F15rM9Fc9 +U8AnjLNx1WcDD6+ybhaSo12v5wftgd5 =+i97 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --R3G7APHDIzY6R/pk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 13:45:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D4437B406; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QKfNn02763; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:41:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:41:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010626214123.C461@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010625103230.F16384@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010625203914.A341@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010626131554.I34150@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010626131554.I34150@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@freebsd.org on Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:15:54PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:15:54PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 08:39:14PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > I'm thinking we might leave GEN_INDEX off by default in the Makefiles, > > and turn it on when doing 'official' web builds. It drastically > > increases the build time for documents with lots of index entries. >=20 > GEN_INDEX doesn't control whether or not book.sgml looks for > index.sgml, so if we do this, we will have to commit a null index.sgml > file or add more intelligence in the GEN_INDEX case. What we really > need is a conditional entity, &chap.index, that varies depending on > whether GEN_INDEX is set. I'm sure this can be done, but I don't know > how. We can't we, in the non-GEN_INDEX case, just "echo > index.sgml" in the Makefile? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs483IACgkQk6gHZCw343WjBgCdHsOLKWdPSa1bG/vj5PZNupT9 WLMAn1I+G+kmLAWsOeqQNAqGGIIOnaH2 =SCXI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JWEK1jqKZ6MHAcjA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 14:38:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E4C37B401; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5QLcfc73315; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106262138.f5QLcfc73315@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rfg@monkeys.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jlemon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21708: kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific about `timeout' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific about `timeout' State-Changed-From-To: closed->open State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 14:36:46 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Jonathan, you're Mr. Kqueue :-). The question is (from a followup to the PR) == The problem is that it is not specified whether the timeout is treated as a _relative_ timespec or as an _absolute_ timespec. Just saying that it is a timespec does not resolve the issue. P.S. My own experiments seem to indicate that the timeout value is treated as being _relative_ to the present moment, i.e. the moment at which the call to kevent(2) is actually made. == Comments? Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jlemon Responsible-Changed-By: nik Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 14:36:46 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: jlemon is Mr. kqueue http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21708 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 18: 0:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C660D37B407 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5R10D594765; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FA737B406 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5R0xDY94696; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200106270059.f5R0xDY94696@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 17:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Mallett To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/28433: who(1) manpage lists incorrect path for wtmp(5) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28433 >Category: docs >Synopsis: who(1) manpage lists incorrect path for wtmp(5) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 26 18:00:13 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joseph Mallett >Release: 4.3-STABLE userland w/ 4.3-RELEASE kernel >Organization: na >Environment: [jmallett@Dalek:~]$ uname -a FreeBSD Dalek.xMach.ORG 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: who(1) manpage shows wtmp(5)'s path as /var/run/wtmp >How-To-Repeat: man 1 who >Fix: --- who.old Tue Jun 26 20:56:18 2001 +++ who.1 Tue Jun 26 20:56:41 2001 @@ -64,9 +64,9 @@ An alternate .Ar file may be specified which is usually -.Pa /var/run/wtmp +.Pa /var/log/wtmp (or -.Pa /var/run/wtmp.[0-6] +.Pa /var/log/wtmp.[0-6] depending on site policy as .Pa wtmp can grow quite large and daily versions may or may not >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 20:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC29E37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5R3U4I14495; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3429F37B405 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 20:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04299 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:23:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from hellcat.itga.com.au (hellcat.itga.com.au [192.168.71.163]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA26016; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:21:49 +1000 (EST) Received: (from gnb@localhost) by hellcat.itga.com.au (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5R3Lnd21764; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:21:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb) Message-Id: <200106270321.f5R3Lnd21764@hellcat.itga.com.au> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:21:49 +1000 (EST) From: Gregory Bond To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28436: [patch] mintor typo in getpgrp(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28436 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] mintor typo in getpgrp(2) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jun 26 20:30:04 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gregory Bond >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: ITG Australia Limited >Environment: System: FreeBSD hellcat.itga.com.au 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #21: Mon Jun 18 13:41:36 EST 2001 toor@hellcat.itga.com.au:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Hellcat i386 >Description: from getpgrp(2): getpgid() will succeed unless: [ESRCH] there is no process whose process ID equals fo pid >How-To-Repeat: man getpgrp >Fix: Index: getpgrp.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/lib/libc/sys/getpgrp.2,v retrieving revision 1.11.2.2 diff -u -r1.11.2.2 getpgrp.2 --- getpgrp.2 2001/04/26 02:02:06 1.11.2.2 +++ getpgrp.2 2001/06/27 03:17:39 @@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ will succeed unless: .Bl -tag -width Er .It Bq Er ESRCH -there is no process whose process ID equals fo +there is no process whose process ID equals .Fa pid .El .Sh SEE ALSO >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 21:24:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBF937B406; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5R4OAo20694; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:24:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106270424.f5R4OAo20694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnb@itga.com.au, chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28436: [patch] mintor typo in getpgrp(2) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patch] mintor typo in getpgrp(2) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chris State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 21:23:22 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed in revisions 1.15 and 1.11.2.3 of getpgrp.2. Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 26 23: 0:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8354337B401; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5R60jm34788; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:00:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 23:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106270600.f5R60jm34788@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jmallett@xMach.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28433: who(1) manpage lists incorrect path for wtmp(5) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: who(1) manpage lists incorrect path for wtmp(5) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 23:00:32 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Jun 26 23:00:32 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28433 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 0:52:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from paweles.retsat1.com.pl (paweles.retsat1.com.pl [212.191.162.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7E937B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 00:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paweles@catv.retsat1.com.pl) Received: from catv.retsat1.com.pl (paweles@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paweles.retsat1.com.pl (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f5R7r2R00540 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:53:03 +0200 Message-ID: <3B3990DC.AAC0A41F@catv.retsat1.com.pl> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:53:00 +0200 From: Pawel Lesiak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: pl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: handbook translation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am interesting in FreeBSD and I found your handbook very useful for me but there is no Polish version of it. I want to translate your handbook into Polish becasue is more comfortable for us to read some information in our language. Under which conditions I could do that? Pawel Lesiak MD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 6:37: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from infres.enst.fr (infres-192.enst.fr [137.194.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485B237B405 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vguyot@yahoo.com) Received: from crystal.enst.fr (crystal.enst.fr [137.194.161.12]) by infres.enst.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F8B91891 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:36:46 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Vincent GUYOT Reply-To: vincent.guyot@enst.fr Organization: ;-) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: improvement Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:30:56 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01062715305600.01100@crystal.enst.fr> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, I am on: http://www.fr.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html#MIRRORS-FR I'd like to download from France mirror & I discovered fr6 was very very closed to me & fast! may be you could tell who is each mirror, it would be more efficient for us (who would like download as efficiently as possible). thx, vg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 7:16:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D081337B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA28800; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:24:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3B39EB22.5FB57B77@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:18:10 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vincent.guyot@enst.fr Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: improvement References: <01062715305600.01100@crystal.enst.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vincent GUYOT schrieb: > > hello, > I am on: > http://www.fr.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html#MIRRORS-FR > I'd like to download from France mirror & I discovered fr6 was very very > closed to me & fast! may be you could tell who is each mirror, it would be > more efficient for us (who would like download as efficiently as possible). For one simple reason, that's not possible: the mirror names move from time to time to another machine. Thus it's a good idea to check the distance for yourself once in a while. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 7:19: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2A737B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:18:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA28813; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:27:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3B39EBC2.9702CB4B@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:20:50 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pawel Lesiak Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: handbook translation References: <3B3990DC.AAC0A41F@catv.retsat1.com.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pawel Lesiak schrieb: > > I am interesting in FreeBSD and I found your handbook very useful for me > but there is no Polish version of it. I want to translate your handbook > into Polish becasue is more comfortable for us to read some information > in our language. Under which conditions I could do that? Barring a better answer from the documentations gods, just start. Download the doc distribution set, install the docproj meta-port, have a look at the various existing translations, then create a Polish subdirectory and start hacking away. When you got some material for submission, send-pr it to the docproject. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 7:22:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4B337B407; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5REMGo18508; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106271422.f5REMGo18508@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, phk@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28371: malloc(2) man page correction Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: malloc(2) man page correction Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phk Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jun 27 07:21:00 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to the guilty party. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28371 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 7:31:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from Main.eurocom.od.ua (Main.EuroCom.Od.UA [212.15.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED95E37B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kirichenko@eurocom.od.ua) Received: from dennis (dp-151.EuroCom.Od.UA [212.15.128.151]) by Main.eurocom.od.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5REVbE32627 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:31:37 +0300 From: "Demon" To: Subject: auth 4e9f5ba6 subscribe freebsd-announce kirichenko@eurocom.od.ua Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:32:11 +0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 9:29:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6509437B406 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5RGTdp28394 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:29:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA79943 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:30:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:30:44 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook: Build world / build kernel Message-ID: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I find the handbook section http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html a bit confusing. Suppose you have upgraded the sources. In what order do you do the following? o make buildworld o make installworld o make buildkernel o make installkernel The section in question says Warning: If you have upgraded your sources since your last kernel ^^^^^^ build, you must use the make buildkernel method to build your kernel. Otherwise, old utilities will be used to build the kernel, which will probably fail. Do not use the config/make sequence to build your kernel if you have updated the sources! Should that be last *world* build? I mean, what does the old kernel have to do with old utilities being used to build the new kernel? In that case, would the following sequence be correct? o make buildworld o make buildkernel o make installkernel o make installworld o reboot Basically, is it safe to do "make buildkernel" before "make installworld", ie with the old userland? Or do you need to do "make installworld" before "make buildkernel"? If the latter, then while you're doing "make buildkernel", your old kernel is living for a while with your new userland: is that a problem? I'm willing to submit a patch if someone can clear my confusion... R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 9:46:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6FC37B409 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id SAA29955; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3B3A0E6A.5963F798@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:48:42 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan schrieb: > > I find the handbook section > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > a bit confusing. Suppose you have upgraded the sources. In what > order do you do the following? > > o make buildworld > o make installworld > o make buildkernel > o make installkernel > > The section in question says > > Warning: If you have upgraded your sources since your last kernel > ^^^^^^ > build, you must use the make buildkernel method to build your kernel. > Otherwise, old utilities will be used to build the kernel, which will > probably fail. Do not use the config/make sequence to build your > kernel if you have updated the sources! > > Should that be last *world* build? I mean, what does the old kernel > have to do with old utilities being used to build the new kernel? No. It means if you CVSup'ed your source _after_ building a kernel, only the buildkernel method uses the new binaries in /usr/obj to generate the kernel. Other methods will build the kernel with userland binaries, which will be out of sync with the sources after make buildworld. > In that case, would the following sequence be correct? > o make buildworld > o make buildkernel > o make installkernel > o make installworld > o reboot > > Basically, is it safe to do "make buildkernel" before "make > installworld", ie with the old userland? Or do you need to do "make > installworld" before "make buildkernel"? If the latter, then while > you're doing "make buildkernel", your old kernel is living for a while > with your new userland: is that a problem? > > I'm willing to submit a patch if someone can clear my confusion... It is unsafe to build a kernel before you build a world in your object directory (usually /usr/obj). HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 9:49:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.196.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BF4737B405 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 3644 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 16:49:24 -0000 Received: from hoobella.summersault.com (HELO summersault.com) (208.196.32.195) by nollie.summersault.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 16:49:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 11:49:58 -0500 From: Mark Stosberg Reply-To: mark@summersault.com Organization: Summersault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: doc suggestion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I have a suggestion for this piece of documentation: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-trouble.html Specifically, point # 4.5.1.17 You might also mention that in modern versions of FreeBSD, you can also get pkg_info for a port by using: pkg_info grizzle* which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using pkg_info -a | grep grizzle Thanks! -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 9:54:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (chfdns02.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C872B37B407 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.40 2001/06/06 21:14:49 root Exp $) with ESMTP id QAA03453; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:54:18 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA21533; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:54:17 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA18483; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:54:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 09:54:17 -0700 To: mark@summersault.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion In-Reply-To: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ On Wednesday, June 27, Mark Stosberg wrote: ] > > Hello! > > pkg_info grizzle* > > which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using > > pkg_info -a | grep grizzle probably a good thing, but a minor nit: pkg_info 'grizzle*' -or- pkg_info grizzle\* pkg_info will glob the '*' only if it sees it in its argv[] so you have to escape it from the shell. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D5337B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:00:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5RGxwp32285 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:59:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA81244 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:01:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:01:04 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Christoph Sold Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel Message-ID: <20010627190103.A80971@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> <3B3A0E6A.5963F798@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B3A0E6A.5963F798@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:48:42PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christoph Sold said on Jun 27, 2001 at 18:48:42: > > > Warning: If you have upgraded your sources since your last kernel > > ^^^^^^ > > build, you must use the make buildkernel method to build your kernel. > > Otherwise, old utilities will be used to build the kernel, which will > > probably fail. Do not use the config/make sequence to build your > > kernel if you have updated the sources! > > > > Should that be last *world* build? I mean, what does the old kernel > > have to do with old utilities being used to build the new kernel? > > No. It means if you CVSup'ed your source _after_ building a kernel, only > the buildkernel method uses the new binaries in /usr/obj to generate the > kernel. Other methods will build the kernel with userland binaries, > which will be out of sync with the sources after make buildworld. That's what I thought it meant. So it should be "since your last world build" (ie, if your sources are newer than your world, you should use this method, which uses the new binaries in /usr/obj). The last kernel build has nothing to do with it except for the fact that you're supposed to build the kernel and the world from the same source tree. > It is unsafe to build a kernel before you build a world in your object > directory (usually /usr/obj). ie, "make buildworld". So "make buildkernel" should come after "make buildworld", but not necessarily after "make installworld"? Thanks R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10: 1:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from summersault.com (nollie.summersault.com [208.196.32.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3D5D37B433 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@summersault.com) Received: (qmail 5544 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2001 17:01:42 -0000 Received: from hoobella.summersault.com (HELO summersault.com) (208.196.32.195) by nollie.summersault.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2001 17:01:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3B3A118D.1632DBC4@summersault.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:02:17 -0500 From: Mark Stosberg Reply-To: mark@summersault.com Organization: Summersault X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Reynolds~ Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Wednesday, June 27, Mark Stosberg wrote: ] > > > > Hello! > > > > pkg_info grizzle* > > > > which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using > > > > pkg_info -a | grep grizzle > > probably a good thing, but a minor nit: > > pkg_info 'grizzle*' -or- pkg_info grizzle\* > > pkg_info will glob the '*' only if it sees it in its argv[] so you have to > escape it from the shell. It seems to work as I decribed on FreeBSD 4.3: (using bash shell) ##### mark@nollie to_home> uname -a FreeBSD nollie.summersault.com 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Wed May 9 16:03:58 EST 2001root@esperanza.summersault.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/NOLLIE.050901 i386 mark@nollie to_home> pkg_info postgres* Information for postgresql-7.0.3: Comment: A robust, next generation, object-relational DBMS Description: .... ########### -mark http://mark.stosberg.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10:12: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A1037B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id TAA30131; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:21:00 +0200 Message-ID: <3B3A1464.49D0A835@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:14:12 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Christoph Sold , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> <3B3A0E6A.5963F798@i-clue.de> <20010627190103.A80971@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan schrieb: > > Christoph Sold said on Jun 27, 2001 at 18:48:42: > > > > It is unsafe to build a kernel before you build a world in your object > > directory (usually /usr/obj). > > ie, "make buildworld". So "make buildkernel" should come after "make > buildworld", but not necessarily after "make installworld"? Exactly. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10:14:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B48037B405 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5RHEBp34315 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:14:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA81835 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:15:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:15:17 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Christoph Sold Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel Message-ID: <20010627191517.B80971@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> <3B3A0E6A.5963F798@i-clue.de> <20010627190103.A80971@lpt.ens.fr> <3B3A1464.49D0A835@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B3A1464.49D0A835@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 07:14:12PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christoph Sold said on Jun 27, 2001 at 19:14:12: > > > > It is unsafe to build a kernel before you build a world in your object > > > directory (usually /usr/obj). > > > > ie, "make buildworld". So "make buildkernel" should come after "make > > buildworld", but not necessarily after "make installworld"? > > Exactly. Thanks. Now -- is it just me or could the handbook be a bit clearer on this? I can have a shot at rephrasing it... Thanks R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10:17:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3726337B401 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5RHH4p34646 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:17:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA81950 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:18:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:18:09 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: John Reynolds~ Cc: mark@summersault.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion Message-ID: <20010627191809.C80971@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com>; from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Reynolds~ said on Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17: > > [ On Wednesday, June 27, Mark Stosberg wrote: ] > > > > Hello! > > > > pkg_info grizzle* > > > > which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using > > > > pkg_info -a | grep grizzle > > probably a good thing A better thing, actually, imo -- since this form picks out the specific package you want and gives you all the info; the |grep version picks out every line of every package which happens to mention "grizzle", but leaves out those lines for grizzle itself which don't mention "grizzle". R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 10:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301FC37B405 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 10:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5RHKIp34996 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:20:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id TAA82056 ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:21:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 19:21:24 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Mark Stosberg Cc: John Reynolds~ , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion Message-ID: <20010627192124.D80971@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> <3B3A118D.1632DBC4@summersault.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B3A118D.1632DBC4@summersault.com>; from mark@summersault.com on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 12:02:17PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Stosberg said on Jun 27, 2001 at 12:02:17: > > pkg_info 'grizzle*' -or- pkg_info grizzle\* > > > > pkg_info will glob the '*' only if it sees it in its argv[] so you have to > > escape it from the shell. > > It seems to work as I decribed on FreeBSD 4.3: (using bash shell) But not on csh/tcsh: you need the quotes. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 12:40: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CAE37B401; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5RJdZn93486; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:39:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: ru@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28371: malloc(2) man page correction In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:22:16 PDT." <200106271422.f5REMGo18508@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:39:35 +0200 Message-ID: <93484.993670775@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I'm not sure I agree in the fix. The string is not by definition a constant, you could assign it in your code, depending on circumstances found only after starting to run (for instance setting "AJ" when running with a debugging command line switch). -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 12:45:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B1B37B407; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 12:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: from strontium.shef.vinosystems.com ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15FLFU-000M1I-00; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:45:16 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.shef.vinosystems.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5RJjGc49358; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:45:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: strontium.shef.vinosystems.com: ben set sender to ben@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:45:15 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28371: malloc(2) man page correction Message-ID: <20010627204515.D49799@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> References: <200106271422.f5REMGo18508@freefall.freebsd.org> <93484.993670775@critter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <93484.993670775@critter> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Well, I'm not sure I agree in the fix. The string is not by > definition a constant, you could assign it in your code, depending > on circumstances found only after starting to run (for instance > setting "AJ" when running with a debugging command line switch). But 'extern const char *malloc_options' doesn't prevent that - it makes what malloc_options points to constant, not the malloc_options variable itself. So 'malloc_options = "AJ"' would still be legal, or did I misunderstand something? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 13:57:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C5837B403; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5RKvRn94301; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:57:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Ben Smithurst Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28371: malloc(2) man page correction In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 27 Jun 2001 20:45:15 BST." <20010627204515.D49799@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:57:26 +0200 Message-ID: <94299.993675446@critter> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010627204515.D49799@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com>, Ben Smithurs t writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> Well, I'm not sure I agree in the fix. The string is not by >> definition a constant, you could assign it in your code, depending >> on circumstances found only after starting to run (for instance >> setting "AJ" when running with a debugging command line switch). > >But 'extern const char *malloc_options' doesn't prevent that - it makes >what malloc_options points to constant, not the malloc_options variable >itself. So 'malloc_options = "AJ"' would still be legal, or did I >misunderstand something? But I want to be able to say: main(...) { char mymallocoptions[10]; sprintf(mymallocoptions, "%c%c", something, other); malloc_options = mymallocoptions; } -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 15:45:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com [24.64.2.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C455137B406 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from antouns@home.com) Received: from cs72902-a.home.com ([24.65.206.42]) by mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010627224530.OCEP6449.mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com@cs72902-a.home.com> for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:45:30 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010627164037.00a91af0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: antouns/mail.cgmo1.ab.home.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:45:39 -0600 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: antouns Subject: I am settingup HOW to install and run freeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org howdy Calgary retired teacher http://24.65.206.42/freeBSD-start.asp need help on the steps that must be taken to setup ,install,and run freeBSD on a separate or common hard drive with win98,win2000,linux -mandrake,susus,redhat,slackware... regards sami To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 18: 2: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C416137B407; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 18:01:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Received: from strontium.shef.vinosystems.com ([192.168.91.36] ident=root) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15FQBx-000LAl-00; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:01:57 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.shef.vinosystems.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5S11v533231; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:01:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: strontium.shef.vinosystems.com: ben set sender to ben@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 02:01:57 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/28371: malloc(2) man page correction Message-ID: <20010628020157.F83829@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> References: <20010627204515.D49799@strontium.shef.vinosystems.com> <94299.993675446@critter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <94299.993675446@critter> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > But I want to be able to say: > > > main(...) > { > char mymallocoptions[10]; > > sprintf(mymallocoptions, "%c%c", something, other); > malloc_options = mymallocoptions; > } Making malloc_options 'const char *' wouldn't prevent this as far as I can see (though do correct me if I'm wrong), it would only prevent something like sprintf(malloc_options, "%c%c", something, other); -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 23:50:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0D837B406; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5S6oiD61694; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106280650.f5S6oiD61694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dot@dotat.at, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25837: [PATCH] properly document vfc_flags in getvfsent(3) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] properly document vfc_flags in getvfsent(3) State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Jun 27 23:50:27 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-docs->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Jun 27 23:50:27 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25837 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jun 27 23:52:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237A537B401; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5S6qv562050; Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 23:52:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106280652.f5S6qv562050@freefall.freebsd.org> To: rsimmons@spamcop.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28128: small change to jail(8) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: small change to jail(8) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Jun 27 23:52:35 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This seems unnecessary; see audit trail (and silence from originator). http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28128 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 0:55:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bubo.vslib.cz (bubo.vslib.cz [147.230.16.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F3237B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Martin.Vana@vslib.cz) Received: from tyto.vslib.cz (tyto.vslib.cz [147.230.16.7]) by bubo.vslib.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693C8833B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:55:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from TYTO/SpoolDir by tyto.vslib.cz (Mercury 1.44); 28 Jun 01 09:55:49 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by TYTO (Mercury 1.44); 28 Jun 01 09:55:09 +0200 From: "Martin Vana" Organization: Technical University of Liberec To: doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:55:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to help you with translation of docs in to Czech. To whom should I write? Is there any group working on it? Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 1:12:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0CB37B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA00624; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: <3B3AE760.D64EBC7C@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:14:24 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: antouns Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I am settingup HOW to install and run freeBSD References: <4.3.2.7.0.20010627164037.00a91af0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Your mailer sends lines way too long. Please adjust.] antouns schrieb: > > howdy > Calgary retired teacher > http://24.65.206.42/freeBSD-start.asp > need help on the steps that must be taken to setup ,install,and run > freeBSD on a separate or common hard drive with win98,win2000,linux > -mandrake,susus,redhat,slackware... FreeBSD needs a boot partition within the first GB of any hard drive. The handbook containing all steps to install is located at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook HTH -CHristoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 6: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E0337B405 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from m122-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com ([62.255.40.122]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010628130602.OKJL298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@m122-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:06:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 422 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Jun 2001 13:00:58 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:00:58 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: John Reynolds~ Cc: mark@summersault.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion Message-ID: <20010628140058.A29747@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: John Reynolds~ , mark@summersault.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com>; from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Wednesday, June 27, Mark Stosberg wrote: ] > > > > Hello! > > > > pkg_info grizzle* > > > > which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using > > > > pkg_info -a | grep grizzle > > probably a good thing, but a minor nit: > > pkg_info 'grizzle*' -or- pkg_info grizzle\* > > pkg_info will glob the '*' only if it sees it in its argv[] so you have to > escape it from the shell. Thanks! I've just committed a change to "pkg_info -I 'grizzle*'" (see revision 1.118 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml). Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 8:30:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE237B40D for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SFUCp46792; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.rhein-zeitung.de (mail.rhein-zeitung.DE [195.189.135.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2AB37B403 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (pppin247.max-mainz.rz-online.NET [212.7.164.247]) by mail.rhein-zeitung.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5SFQfR26272 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:26:41 +0200 Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f5SFNAE64595; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:23:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200106281523.f5SFNAE64595@Moses.earth.sol> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:23:10 +0200 (CEST) From: mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de Reply-To: mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28488: Handbook Chapter Disks: passno not correctly explained Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28488 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook Chapter Disks: passno not correctly explained >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jun 28 08:30:11 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.3-RC FreeBSD 4.3-RC #0: Tue May 22 00:46:25 CEST 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: When explaining the format of /etc/fstab the handbook states that passno determines when a filesystem is mounted during the boot process. According to fstab(5) passno gives the order in which filesystems are checked. >How-To-Repeat: Read the disks chapter. >Fix: RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -r1.27 chapter.sgml 269c269 < the pass number during which the filesystem is mounted during --- > the pass number during which the filesystem is checked during >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 8:43:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from booster.telnet.hu (booster.telnet.hu [212.75.128.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E1637B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toth@telnet.hu) Received: from pannonia.telnet.hu ([212.75.128.90]) by booster.telnet.hu with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Fdwg-00014c-00 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:43:06 +0200 Received: from toth.intra ([192.168.0.55] helo=toth) by pannonia.telnet.hu with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15Fdwg-0007Kd-00 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:43:06 +0200 From: "TOTH Balazs" To: Subject: I need some help! Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:43:45 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to know if I can download the handbook across HTTP, because I cant use FTP at my workplace. Thank You, Balazs Toth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:32:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033C437B40A for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SELx701577; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:21:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:21:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel Message-ID: <20010628152133.C445@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+nBD6E3TurpgldQp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:30:44PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:30:44PM +0200, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > I find the handbook section > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-bu= ilding.html > a bit confusing. Suppose you have upgraded the sources. In what > order do you do the following? [...] I've committed new text for this section which (I think) addresses all your points. Let me know if there's anything else that needs to be=20 added. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs7O7YACgkQk6gHZCw343Xb6gCfXUitQKphMOLZbCHmNJjsL3oi YwwAoIOd0OXZHXUsXszohUuG3UVM8UZY =02rv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+nBD6E3TurpgldQp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:32:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA99C37B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SDbdK01471; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:14 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Martin Vana Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20010628143714.A445@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Martin.Vana@vslib.cz on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:55:05AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:55:05AM +0200, Martin Vana wrote: > I would like to help you with translation of docs in to Czech. > To whom should I write? > Is there any group working on it? [ This is a form letter -- sorry about that, but I'm trying to make sure=20 that I can deal with messages in a timely manner. Thanks for understandi= ng ] Thank you for your recent message asking about translating the FreeBSD=20 documentation to another language. Additional translations of the FreeBSD documentation are always welcome. To that end, there is a chapter in the FreeBSD Documentation Primer that (hopefully) answers all the questions you have. The primer is at http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/index.html and the chapter in question is http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/= index.html Hopefully, that will answer all your questions. If not, please get back in touch with your questions. Thanks, and we look forward to your translation. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs7MwoACgkQk6gHZCw343UUtACfXZrQJSIWsAcTizIeBu9yPRFY whUAnRRlWrEH093PTo6U6/2BWJsq4spX =aYWW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xHFwDpU9dbj6ez1V-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:34:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C62837B409 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SDflD01487; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:41:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:41:23 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Reynolds~ Cc: mark@summersault.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc suggestion Message-ID: <20010628144123.B445@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B3A0EAB.9B950DC9@summersault.com> <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15162.4025.666107.576314@hip186.ch.intel.com>; from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com on Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:54:17AM -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote: >=20 > [ On Wednesday, June 27, Mark Stosberg wrote: ] > >=20 > > Hello! > >=20 > > pkg_info grizzle* > >=20 > > which is more intuitive (and shorter) than using > >=20 > > pkg_info -a | grep grizzle >=20 > probably a good thing, but a minor nit: >=20 > pkg_info 'grizzle*' -or- pkg_info grizzle\* >=20 > pkg_info will glob the '*' only if it sees it in its argv[] so you have to > escape it from the shell. Done (or will be when I get net connectivity again). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs7NAIACgkQk6gHZCw343XhUwCbBk12sMv6BYedOGMxNaod7R4x /vcAn1jr4FqNJtZt8TMOd+lSIhBYSjES =e3m/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:38:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E5B37B40D for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5SGcTp55774 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:38:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA32434 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:39:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:39:36 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: TOTH Balazs Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need some help! Message-ID: <20010628183936.Y9802@lpt.ens.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from toth@telnet.hu on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:43:45PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org TOTH Balazs said on Jun 28, 2001 at 17:43:45: > I'd like to know if I can download the handbook across HTTP, because I cant > use FTP at my workplace. You could try wget (in the ports: usr/ports/ftp/wget) It can retrieve a hierarchy of files, via either ftp or http. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:42:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813D37B405; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SGgSN57564; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106281642.f5SGgSN57564@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28488: Handbook Chapter Disks: passno not correctly explained Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook Chapter Disks: passno not correctly explained State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Jun 28 09:42:20 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28488 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:51:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68537B401; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5SGpGp57941 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA33165 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:52:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:52:21 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook: Build world / build kernel Message-ID: <20010628185220.Z9802@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010627183044.A77365@lpt.ens.fr> <20010628152133.C445@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010628152133.C445@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:21:34PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton said on Jun 28, 2001 at 15:21:34: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:30:44PM +0200, Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > I find the handbook section > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html > > a bit confusing. Suppose you have upgraded the sources. In what > > order do you do the following? > > [...] > > I've committed new text for this section which (I think) addresses all > your points. Let me know if there's anything else that needs to be > added. Looks better. However, you don't say whether, when it's part of a "make world" procedure, you should do "make buildworld" before or after the "make buildkernel". Perhaps it doesn't matter? The earlier version said you should do it before. Also, one typo: KERCONF for KERNCONF. Patch below. Thanks R *** chapter.sgml Thu Jun 28 18:38:36 2001 --- chapter.sgml Thu Jun 28 18:49:04 2001 *************** *** 250,256 **** In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace ! KERCONF= with KERNEL=. 4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does recognize KERNCONF= --- 250,256 ---- In FreeBSD 4.2 and older you must replace ! KERNCONF= with KERNEL=. 4.2-STABLE that was fetched after Feb 2nd, 2001 does recognize KERNCONF= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:52: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web14803.mail.yahoo.com (web14803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91FC937B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhamming2001@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010628165203.28503.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.248.85.196] by web14803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:52:03 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: John Doe Subject: Re: I need some help! To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010628183936.Y9802@lpt.ens.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In addition to that, you can also use fetch(1) ...so to get the English handbook, you would perform: fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook/book.pdf.gz and you should have your English version of the Handbook, in PDF format :) now you don't have to waste time and install wget(1) :)..have fun bruce\ --- Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > TOTH Balazs said on Jun 28, 2001 at 17:43:45: > > I'd like to know if I can download the handbook across HTTP, because I cant > > use FTP at my workplace. > > You could try wget (in the ports: usr/ports/ftp/wget) > It can retrieve a hierarchy of files, via either ftp or http. > > R > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 9:56:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C3F37B406 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f5SGu6p58741 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:56:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA33498 ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:57:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:57:12 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: John Doe Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I need some help! Message-ID: <20010628185712.A9802@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20010628183936.Y9802@lpt.ens.fr> <20010628165203.28503.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010628165203.28503.qmail@web14803.mail.yahoo.com>; from rhamming2001@yahoo.com on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:52:03AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Doe said on Jun 28, 2001 at 09:52:03: > In addition to that, you can also use fetch(1) ...so to get the English handbook, you would > perform: > > fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/handbook/book.pdf.gz > > and you should have your English version of the Handbook, in PDF format :) > now you don't have to waste time and install wget(1) :)..have fun Except that he said he can't use ftp at his end... (I assume that meant the protocol, not the program). If you can supply an http link to the above, it would work, certainly. R > > bruce\ > --- Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > TOTH Balazs said on Jun 28, 2001 at 17:43:45: > > > I'd like to know if I can download the handbook across HTTP, because I cant > > > use FTP at my workplace. > > > > You could try wget (in the ports: usr/ports/ftp/wget) > > It can retrieve a hierarchy of files, via either ftp or http. > > > > R > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 10: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932F537B407 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 10:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5SH4Wb00887; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:04:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:04:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: TOTH Balazs Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: I need some help! Message-ID: <20010628180431.B387@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from toth@telnet.hu on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:43:45PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:43:45PM +0200, TOTH Balazs wrote: > I'd like to know if I can download the handbook across HTTP, because I ca= nt > use FTP at my workplace. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.html N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs7Y54ACgkQk6gHZCw343UBFgCfbP+DXYSwIKKGNck1Y/1pPkoJ H88An3vbO6Bjb8jid1PcP+Tr+XK1xc+u =IoV3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 14:30:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ip142166205174.nbtel.net (pix142166194095.nbtel.net [142.166.194.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA99337B405 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crow@ip142166205174.nbtel.net) Received: by ip142166205174.nbtel.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 123385B9; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:38:40 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:38:39 -0300 From: Pierre-Paul Lavoie To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20010628183839.A19510@bloodaxis.nbtel.net> Reply-To: Pierre-Paul Lavoie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 14:31:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220D237B409; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GFN004S7T4AWF@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:31:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f5SLUGc63434; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:30:16 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:29:30 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 In-reply-to: <20010614110703.A91909@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@ark.cris.net on Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 11:07:03AM +0300 To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Dima Dorfman , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010628162930.D55395@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010614024036.2B39F3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010613214752.C5865@holly.calldei.com> <20010614110703.A91909@ark.cris.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, June 14, 2001, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report (and > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > takers ? Hmmm. I just noticed this email. It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? -- +-------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | All new: | | chris@calldei.com | The software is not compatible with previous versions. | +-------------------+--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 14:37:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD89B37B401; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9673E2F; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) To: chris@calldei.com Cc: Alexey Zelkin , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010628162930.D55395@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on "Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:29:30 -0500" Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:37:02 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010628213702.0D9673E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ -hackers dropped ] Chris Costello writes: > On Thursday, June 14, 2001, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report ( > and > > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > > takers ? > > Hmmm. I just noticed this email. > > It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do > you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? AFAIK there's no infrastructure in the www/ build for DocBook. If you want to use DocBook--and I think you should--it would need to be under doc/. Assuming that this would be a recurring thing, an article per newsletter won't scale, so perhaps make a book out of them? Just a thought. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 15:24:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1637B405; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01239; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:24:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5SMOCA43827; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:24:12 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:24:11 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Chris Costello Cc: Dima Dorfman , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 Message-ID: <20010629012411.A43429@ark.cris.net> References: <20010614024036.2B39F3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010613214752.C5865@holly.calldei.com> <20010614110703.A91909@ark.cris.net> <20010628162930.D55395@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010628162930.D55395@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:29:30PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report (and > > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > > takers ? > > Hmmm. I just noticed this email. > > It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do > you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? Actually does not matter, but I think simple SGML is quite enough (same as for other contents of www/). I think it should go under www/en/news/core/. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 15:27:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C797437B403; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:27:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA01574; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:27:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5SMReY44228; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:27:40 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:27:39 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Dima Dorfman Cc: chris@calldei.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 Message-ID: <20010629012739.B43429@ark.cris.net> References: <20010628162930.D55395@holly.calldei.com> <20010628213702.0D9673E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010628213702.0D9673E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:37:02PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 02:37:02PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report ( > > and > > > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > > > takers ? > > > > Hmmm. I just noticed this email. > > > > It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do > > you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? > > AFAIK there's no infrastructure in the www/ build for DocBook. If you > want to use DocBook--and I think you should--it would need to be under > doc/. Assuming that this would be a recurring thing, an article per > newsletter won't scale, so perhaps make a book out of them? I don't think that it's reasonable to put it under doc/. It's not actually documentation and need not to be distributed (I don't think that someone really needs it downloaded). Therefore web site is most appropriate place for such reports (except mailboxes of course :). www/ tree is appropriate place for web site contents. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 15:29: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F82637B407; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA103E2F; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:29:03 -0700 (PDT) To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Chris Costello , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 In-Reply-To: <20010629012411.A43429@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@ark.cris.net on "Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:24:11 +0300" Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:29:03 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010628222903.1EA103E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin writes: > hi, > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:29:30PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > > > > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report (and > > > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > > > takers ? > > > > Hmmm. I just noticed this email. > > > > It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do > > you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? > > Actually does not matter, but I think simple SGML is quite enough (same as > for other contents of www/). I think it should go under www/en/news/core/. Why /core? This has nothing to do with the Core Team; it's a summary of projects in general. The submitters don't even have to be committers. Or am I missing something? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 19: 9:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5972137B401 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:09:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:CFcja9DYKTC+Ol5rRYvnQEsduxNN7CAz@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5T29Hu01819 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200106290209.f5T29Hu01819@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: tweten@nas.nasa.gov To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 19:09:16 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 03:03:44 +0100 (BST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Dave Tweten Subject: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness Dave, You might want to send an e-mail to freebsd-doc@freebsd.org and ask them if that's an error. If so, whats the correct syntax? -- Jonathan /--------------------------------------------------------------\ Jonathan Slivko -- Black Lotus Comm. -- jslivko@jslivko.org www.jslivko.org - www.blacklotus.net - www.freebsd.org Phone: (212) 663-1109 -- Pager: (917) 388-5304 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! \--------------------------------------------------------------/ On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Dave Tweten wrote: > The sh man page says that the two operators "||" and "&&" have the same > precedence. It also says that > > a || b > > means "execute b if a terminates abnormally" and > > a && b > > means "execute b if a terminates normally." > > So I don't understand why > > true || true && echo Oops! > > prints "Oops!" > > This is apparently not a bug in FreeBSD sh, because IRIX, IRIX64, and SunOS > Bourne/Korn shells work the same way, but it certainly runs counter to my > ability to read English and the contents of the man page. > > Incidently, > > true || { true && echo Oops! } > > prints nothing -- which I would have expected with or without the "{}". > > Can anybody explain this? Can that explanation go into the sh man page? > Thank you for any help you can provide -- from someone who expects to see a > large, hurried, white rabbit at any minute now. > -- > M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov > NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 > Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 > We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > ------- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 20:32:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A00CB37B40B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 82589 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jun 2001 03:32:37 -0000 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:32:37 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Dave Tweten Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness Message-ID: <20010628233237.A81983@databits.net> References: <200106290209.f5T29Hu01819@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106290209.f5T29Hu01819@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov>; from tweten@nas.nasa.gov on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:09:16PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 28/06/01 19:09 -0700 - Dave Tweten: | > The sh man page says that the two operators "||" and "&&" have the same | > precedence. [ snip ] | > So I don't understand why | > | > true || true && echo Oops! | > | > prints "Oops!" "They have the same precedence." In math, "+" and "-" have the same precedence. So, if you have 1 + 2 + 3, you evaluate 1 + 2, then you evaulate that result + 3. true || true && echo Oops! you first take 'true || true' -- you end up with true. you then eval '&& echo Oops!' with the result of 'true || true' (true). true always exits sucessfully, so the command after && is executed and you see 'Oops!' Does this sound right? It makes sense in my head, but I'm not sure if I'm explaining it right. | > | > This is apparently not a bug in FreeBSD sh, because IRIX, IRIX64, and SunOS | > Bourne/Korn shells work the same way, but it certainly runs counter to my | > ability to read English and the contents of the man page. | > -pete -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 21:42:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8BA37B40B for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:RZVF0DKir8up3m5vnjOhgV6WeiiP66Da@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5T4gLu02151; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:42:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200106290442.f5T4gLu02151@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: tweten@nas.nasa.gov To: Pete Fritchman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness From: Dave Tweten Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:42:20 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org petef@databits.net said: >you first take 'true || true' -- you end up with true. According to the man page, "||" is NOT "or". Instead it is an operator that causes the command to its right to be executed only if the simple command to its left fails. Therefore, 'true || true' means "continue without executing the rightmost "true". The (slightly dated) copy of POSIX.2 I have in my office actually calls the following an "OR List," but says command1 [ || command2 ] ... means: "First, command1 shall be executed. If its exit status is nonzero, command2 xhall be executed, and so on until a command has a zero exit status or there are no more commands left to execute." Similarly, it calls the following an "AND List," but says command1 [ && command2 ] ... means: "First, command1 shall be executed. If its exit status is zero, command2 shall be executed, and so on until a command has a nonzero exit status or there are no more commands left to execute. The comnmands shall be expanded only if they are executed." Curiously, POSIX says nothing about a list containing both operators. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jun 28 23:55:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.electromir.ru (bsd.electromir.ru [195.14.44.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E243837B405 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dimma@electromir.ru) Received: from mail.office.electromir.ru (mail.office.electromir.ru [192.168.0.50]) by bsd.electromir.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5T6rVn24943; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:53:36 +0400 (MSD) Received: from electromir.ru ([192.168.0.35]) by mail.office.electromir.ru (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.6 (890.1 7-16-1999)) with SMTP id C3256A7A.0025D418; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:53:11 +0400 Message-ID: <3B3C262E.B44B479D@electromir.ru> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:54:38 +0400 From: Dmitriy Kyrhlarov X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Tweten Cc: Pete Fritchman , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness References: <8389E4C083FF6622C3256A7A0019EB8A.0019EBE9C3256A7A@electromir.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! 1. sorry for my english. :-) Dave Tweten wrote: > > petef@databits.net said: > >you first take 'true || true' -- you end up with true. > > According to the man page, "||" is NOT "or". Instead it is an operator > that > causes the command to its right to be executed only if the simple command > to > its left fails. Therefore, 'true || true' means "continue without > executing > the rightmost "true". I can't understand where is a problem? true || true && echo "oops!" prints "oops!" true || echo "not oops!" && echo "oops!" prints "oops!" i.e. true || command 1 && command 2 equivalent: true && command 2 and it's a right... > command1 [ || command2 ] ... > command1 [ && command2 ] ... > Curiously, POSIX says nothing about a list containing both operators. pay attantion: "||" and "&&" -- part of command2, therefore true [ || command1 ] [ && command2 ] we can write: true [ && command2 ] By. Dmitriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 0:34:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8719737B403; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 00:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (root@ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA60266; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:34:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f5T7Yim08979; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:34:44 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:34:44 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Chris Costello , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 Message-ID: <20010629103444.A6169@ark.cris.net> References: <20010629012411.A43429@ark.cris.net> <20010628222903.1EA103E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010628222903.1EA103E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:29:03PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:29:03PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > > ps: But I think it can be good idea to put sgml'ified copy of this report (and > > > > others) to web site, like we had Really Quick Newsletter for some time. Any > > > > takers ? > > > > > > Hmmm. I just noticed this email. > > > > > > It sounds like a nice idea to keep it in www, actually. Do > > > you mean formatted using DocBook, or just HTML? > > > > Actually does not matter, but I think simple SGML is quite enough (same as > > for other contents of www/). I think it should go under www/en/news/core/. > > Why /core? This has nothing to do with the Core Team; it's a summary > of projects in general. The submitters don't even have to be > committers. Or am I missing something? Oops! My fault, of course. Sorry. www/en/news/devreport/ ? www/en/projects/status/ ? I prefer first anyway, but second is also applicable IMHO. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 5: 8:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from broadweb.com.tw (nat.broadweb.com.tw [211.75.42.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761B137B40E for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@broadweb.com.tw) Received: from meteor ([192.168.168.71]) by broadweb.com.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA19055 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:12:23 +0800 Message-ID: <000501c10094$d1f1a940$47a8a8c0@meteor> From: "Roger Chien" To: Subject: Typo error in Section 8.2 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 20:12:50 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, While I read the FreeBSD handbook, I found a typo error in Section 8.2 In paragraph "A user account compromise is even more common `then` a D.O.S. attack. Many sysadmins still run standard telnetd, rlogind, rshd, and ftpd servers on their machines.", the word `then' should be 'than'. Best regards, -- Shih-Wei Chien, Assistant Engineer. Software Department, BroadWeb Technology Corp. Taiwan. Email: roger@broadweb.com.tw TEL : +886-3-574-4855 FAX : +886-3-578-5393 URL : www.broadweb.com.tw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 5:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC35237B406 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com ([62.253.88.198]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010629122724.CKHS283.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:27:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 7566 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jun 2001 12:27:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:27:13 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Roger Chien Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Typo error in Section 8.2 Message-ID: <20010629132713.A7400@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Roger Chien , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <000501c10094$d1f1a940$47a8a8c0@meteor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <000501c10094$d1f1a940$47a8a8c0@meteor>; from roger@broadweb.com.tw on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:12:50PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:12:50PM +0800, Roger Chien wrote: > While I read the FreeBSD handbook, I found a typo error in Section 8.2 Thanks, this is fixed in revision 1.52 of doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml. Regards, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 5:45:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FB237B406 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com ([62.253.88.198]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010629124458.HINY351.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:44:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 8892 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jun 2001 12:41:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:41:05 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Modifying Release Notes on Web site Message-ID: <20010629134105.A7806@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed that there's an erroneous double world ("the the") in www/en/releases/4.1R/notes.sgml. Before I correct this, I'm writing to the list to check that this is okay. I know that the release notes are moving over to RELNOTESng, so I want to be sure that I'm doing the right thing before I commit a small change. Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 6: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from broadweb.com.tw (nat.broadweb.com.tw [211.75.42.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA29437B405 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@broadweb.com.tw) Received: from meteor ([192.168.168.71]) by broadweb.com.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA19201 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:13:11 +0800 From: "Roger Chien" To: Subject: Re: Typo error in Section 8.2 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:13:41 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010629132713.A7400@eborcom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Another one in Section 8.3.2, "It is better to be safe `then` sorry and the prudent sysadmin will restrict suid binaries that only staff should run to a special group that only staff can access, and get rid of (chmod 000) any suid binaries that nobody uses. BTW, I can't access the URL you gave. Is it http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.s gml ? Sorry for my annoyance :P Regards, Roger >-----­ì©l¶l¥ó----- >±H¥óªÌ: Tom Hukins [mailto:tom@FreeBSD.org] >±H¥ó¤é´Á: 2001¦~6¤ë29¤é ¤U¤È 08:27 >¦¬¥óªÌ: Roger Chien >°Æ¥»: doc@FreeBSD.org >¥D¦®: Re: Typo error in Section 8.2 > > >On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:12:50PM +0800, Roger Chien wrote: >> While I read the FreeBSD handbook, I found a typo error in Section 8.2 > >Thanks, this is fixed in revision 1.52 of >doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml. > >Regards, >Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 6:24: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB84537B405 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: from m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com ([62.253.88.198]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20010629132353.EDKM298.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@m198-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:23:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 9665 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Jun 2001 13:20:54 -0000 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:20:54 +0100 From: Tom Hukins To: Roger Chien Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Typo error in Section 8.2 Message-ID: <20010629142053.A9597@eborcom.com> Mail-Followup-To: Roger Chien , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010629132713.A7400@eborcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from roger@broadweb.com.tw on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:13:41PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 09:13:41PM +0800, Roger Chien wrote: > Another one in Section 8.3.2, "It is better to be safe `then` sorry > and the prudent sysadmin will restrict suid binaries Thanks, I'll fix this one too. > BTW, I can't access the URL you gave. Is it > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.s > gml ? The filename I gave is part of the raw documentation that is used to build the Web site (see http://www.uk.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html). You can view all changes to the documentation on the Web at http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/www/en/security/ > Sorry for my annoyance :P Thanks for reporting the spelling mistakes - it's not annoying at all. 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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C100B4.4C082500-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 7:56:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE537B40A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TEv6F00691 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:57:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:57:06 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Building individual handbook chapters Message-ID: <20010629155706.C323@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oj4kGyHlBMXGt3Le" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --oj4kGyHlBMXGt3Le Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O" Content-Disposition: inline --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a moment of clarity yesterday when talking to Murray Stokely. Attached are some patches that let you build individual handbook chapters, for testing, without needing to build the whole handbook (which can take a lot of time). There are basically two approaches to doing this. 1. Since the individual chapter.sgml files are not, by themselves, valid SGML (because they have no DOCTYPE line), you can't process them with jade directly. Instead, you would need to do something like: 1. Store the DOCTYPE line in a separate file. 2. cat(1) this file, and chapter.sgml together, then pipe the result through jade. The problem with this approach is that you see the chapter completely stand alone -- this is fine for most things, but if=20 you are testing out index entries that you've added, or want to make sure that s appear properly in the list of examples then you need to build the whole book. So, approach #2. . . 2. Make each chapter's appearance conditional on a parameter entity. Have these entities default to "IGNORE". For the full handbook build set these all the "INCLUDE" with the "-i" flag to Jade. For individual chapter builds, turn on just the entity for that chapter. This then lets you build a version of the Handbook without certain chapters (or, more germane to this discussion, with all chapters but one turned off). The patches are: book.sgml.diff Add parameter entities for each chapter, and wrap each chapter's in them, for conditional inclusion. Makefile.diff Introduce a new variable, CHAPTERS, which lists the names of the chapters to build. Fiddle with the JADEFLAGS variable to make sure that each chapter in CHAPTERS has a corresponding '-i ...' flag when passed to Jade. These two diffs keep things the same for the standard Handbook build. ports.Makefile A Makefile to go in a chapter subdirectory, in this case ports/Makefile. This should be self explanatory. If you do this you can then do cd ....../handbook/ports make index.html and it will generate a copy of the Handbook with just this chapter in the current directory. There will be some errors -- cross references to other chapters won't work, and you will then have several s in the Handbook with no content, which is invalid SGML. However, these errors won't cause the build to fail, and since this is to make it easier for authors to test things while they make changes, it's really not important. The only thing that doesn't work with this scheme is images. If you do try and build a chapter with images in they won't appear, because of the relative path scheme we use. An alternative approach (say, for the advanced-networking chapter) would be to do cd ......./handbook make CHAPTERS=3Dadvanced-networking/chapter.sgml index.html which should do the right thing. I'll probably commit these in 24 hours or so. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Makefile.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -u -r1.34 Makefile --- Makefile 2001/06/23 22:46:14 1.34 +++ Makefile 2001/06/29 01:11:41 @@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ INSTALL_COMPRESSED?=3D gz INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED?=3D =20 -# IMAGES=3D advanced-networking/natd.png advanced-networking/natd.eps +#IMAGES=3D advanced-networking/natd.eps =20 #=20 # SRCS lists the individual SGML files that make up the document. Changes @@ -58,6 +58,11 @@ SRCS+=3D chapters.ent=20 =20 SYMLINKS=3D ${DESTDIR} index.html handbook.html + +# Turn on all the chapters. +CHAPTERS?=3D ${SRCS:M*chapter.sgml} + +JADEFLAGS+=3D ${CHAPTERS:S/\/chapter.sgml//:S/^/-i chap./} =20 # XXX The Handbook build currently overflows some internal, hardcoded=20 # limits in pdftex. Until we split the Handbook up, build the PDF=20 --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="book.sgml.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: book.sgml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.101 diff -u -r1.101 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2001/06/21 03:38:14 1.101 +++ book.sgml 2001/06/29 04:24:10 @@ -25,6 +25,37 @@ create some links on web sites and such, so do NOT change it until it's really release time --> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ]> =20 @@ -74,55 +105,55 @@ Getting Started =20 - &chap.introduction; - &chap.install; - &chap.basics; - &chap.ports; + + + + =20 System Administration =20 - &chap.boot; - &chap.users; - &chap.kernelconfig; - &chap.security; - &chap.printing; - &chap.disks; - &chap.backups; - &chap.x11; - &chap.l10n; - &chap.sound; + + + + + + + + + + =20 Network Communications =20 - &chap.serialcomms; - &chap.ppp-and-slip; - &chap.advanced-networking; - &chap.mail; + + + + =20 Advanced topics =20 - &chap.cutting-edge; - &chap.contrib; - &chap.policies; - &chap.kerneldebug; - &chap.linuxemu; + + + + + =20 Appendices =20 - &chap.mirrors; - &chap.bibliography; - &chap.eresources; - &chap.staff; - &chap.pgpkeys; - &chap.hw; + + + + + + =20 --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Makefile # # Build the Handbook with just the content from this chapter. # # $FreeBSD$ # CHAPTERS= ports/chapter.sgml VPATH= .. MASTERDOC= ${.CURDIR}/../${DOC}.${DOCBOOKSUFFIX} DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../../.. .include "../Makefile" --pAwQNkOnpTn9IO2O-- --oj4kGyHlBMXGt3Le Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs8l0EACgkQk6gHZCw343W+xQCfaSF9jB1dfJoA+j349Niv8ctv eWYAn3S7Q6VUvGoNnC09jcwLu5fTvPKG =iQ81 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oj4kGyHlBMXGt3Le-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 7:57: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BFC37B407; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TEdpu00607; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:39:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:39:50 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexey Zelkin Cc: Dima Dorfman , Chris Costello , rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Monthly Development Status Report, June 2001 Message-ID: <20010629153950.B323@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010629012411.A43429@ark.cris.net> <20010628222903.1EA103E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010629103444.A6169@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629103444.A6169@ark.cris.net>; from phantom@ark.cris.net on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:34:44AM +0300 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:34:44AM +0300, Alexey Zelkin wrote: > Oops! My fault, of course. Sorry. >=20 > www/en/news/devreport/ ? > www/en/projects/status/ ? >=20 > I prefer first anyway, but second is also applicable IMHO. First one works for me. I don't think this needs the full power of DocBook either. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs8kzYACgkQk6gHZCw343WfSQCfTx7xMjOqMQcQjdHBKWooI02R EmcAn1hYawAFvYPemYGXVEYMQIXY4xVa =67hM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 8: 0:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75D637B40A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TF0Er77056; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from vpn.bluetie.net (vpn.bluetie.net [208.48.25.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91D1F37B408 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net) Received: from no.name.available by vpn.bluetie.net via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 15:04:41 UT Received: (from root@localhost) by FeeBSD.bluetie.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TF8ZB31573; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:08:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200106291508.f5TF8ZB31573@FeeBSD.bluetie.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:08:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Root Reply-To: root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28519: nothing that interesting Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28519 >Category: docs >Synopsis: nothing that interesting >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 29 08:00:13 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Charlie & >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: bluetie >Environment: System: FreeBSD FeeBSd.bluetie.net 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: kdsjfsldk >How-To-Repeat: sada >Fix: asdasd >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 8:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C371137B407 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TFA2q81436; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from vpn.bluetie.net (vpn.bluetie.net [208.48.25.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD22B37B408 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:02:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net) Received: from no.name.available by vpn.bluetie.net via smtpd (for hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 29 Jun 2001 15:07:35 UT Received: (from root@localhost) by FeeBSD.bluetie.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TFBTb31757; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:11:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200106291511.f5TFBTb31757@FeeBSD.bluetie.net> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:11:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Charlie Root Reply-To: root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28520: testing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Note: There was a bad value `serious[' for the field `>Severity:'. It was set to the default value of `serious'. >Number: 28520 >Category: docs >Synopsis: testing >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 29 08:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Charlie & >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD FeeBSd.bluetie.net 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 >Description: asd >How-To-Repeat: asdad >Fix: asda >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 8:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2237B408; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5TFE2I98288; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:14:02 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f5TFE2j00681; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:14:02 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 21:14:02 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: Charlie Root Cc: FreeBSD-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/28518: none Message-ID: <20010629211402.A547@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <200106291503.f5TF3bg31340@FeeBSD.bluetie.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106291503.f5TF3bg31340@FeeBSD.bluetie.net>; from root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 11:03:37AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 11:03:37AM -0400, Charlie Root wrote: > >Fix: > going to use GNATS > > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: May be I'm a real idiot and don't undestand anything from your postings (does anyone else?), but can you please stop posting THIS completely useless stupid articles about nothing to this small world of FreeBSD users? Thank you... and welcome to my kill-list... Serg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 8:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2ED37B405; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TFL4f82984; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106291521.f5TFL4f82984@freefall.freebsd.org> To: root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28519: nothing that interesting Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: nothing that interesting State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 29 08:20:44 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Do not send test PRs. Thank you. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28519 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 8:30:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC8F37B403 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5TFUGI84367; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106291530.f5TFUGI84367@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Freddy Meerwaldt Subject: Re: docs/28519: nothing that interesting Reply-To: Freddy Meerwaldt Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/28519; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Freddy Meerwaldt To: Charlie Root Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28519: nothing that interesting Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:21:01 +0200 (CEST) Could you please stop submitting test PRs? Please close the PR, someone. Best Regards, Freddy -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS s+: a--- C+++ UBOU+++ P-- E--- W++ N w--- V++ PGP- t? 5? tv ========================================================================== Frederik Meerwaldt ICQ: 83045387 Homepage: http://www.freddym.org Bavaria/Germany OpenVMS and Unix Howtos and much more Solaris, HP/UX, AIX, NetBSD, OpenBSD, IRIX, Tru64, OpenVMS, Ultrix, BeOS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 10:51:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827AE37B403; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5THpl210376; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106291751.f5THpl210376@freefall.freebsd.org> To: root@FeeBSD.bluetie.net, chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28520: testing Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: testing State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chris State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 29 10:50:11 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Thank you for your submission. The behavior you thoroughly documented in your problem report does not occur in the latest copy of the doc tree. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28520 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:19:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A7337B403 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5TJJWd89978 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:19:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: PGP keys in Handbook Message-ID: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PGP keys are taking up about 50 pages of the printed handbook. I think this is great information for the HTML version, but I think that fingerprints would be sufficient for our PostScript output. I've made a change localy that adds a role="pgpkey" attribute to the tags that close the actual key, and then a vanilla to enclose the fingerprints. I've then added a handler to frebsd.dsl that ignores this tag if the role=pgpkey only in the print stylesheets. Are there any objections to me committing this? http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/patches/ freebsd.dsl.diff pgpkeys.diff - Murray Index: freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -u -r1.34 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 2001/06/24 02:46:40 1.34 +++ freebsd.dsl 2001/06/29 19:02:52 @@ -200,6 +200,13 @@ 3 1)) + (element programlisting + (if (equal? (attribute-string (normalize "role")) "pgpkey") + (empty-sosofo) + ($verbatim-display$ + %indent-programlisting-lines% + %number-programlisting-lines%))) + (define %body-start-indent% 0pi) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:26:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C209C37B401; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0179E3E32; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:26:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Hukins Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modifying Release Notes on Web site In-Reply-To: <20010629134105.A7806@eborcom.com>; from tom@FreeBSD.org on "Fri, 29 Jun 2001 13:41:05 +0100" Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:26:17 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010629192618.0179E3E32@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Hukins writes: > I've noticed that there's an erroneous double world ("the the") in > www/en/releases/4.1R/notes.sgml. > > Before I correct this, I'm writing to the list to check that this is > okay. I know that the release notes are moving over to RELNOTESng, so I > want to be sure that I'm doing the right thing before I commit a small > change. The release notes that will be building on the web site won't affect those files. The release notes for the individual releases will still be copied into releases/X.YR. The new "release notes on the web site" will be the renderings of the -current and -stable relnotes which don't apply to any specific release. In other words, feel free to fix it. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org > > Thanks, > Tom > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08B137B401; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.calldei.com) Received: from holly.calldei.com ([208.191.149.190]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.03.23.18.03.p10) with ESMTP id <0GFP00EWBHT5CU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:22:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.calldei.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f5TJOu165996; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:24:56 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:23:34 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: PGP keys in Handbook In-reply-to: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:19:32PM -0700 To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <20010629142334.H55395@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, June 29, 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: > PGP keys are taking up about 50 pages of the printed handbook. I > think this is great information for the HTML version, but I think that > fingerprints would be sufficient for our PostScript output. I've made > a change localy that adds a role="pgpkey" attribute to the > tags that close the actual key, and then a vanilla > to enclose the fingerprints. I've then added a > handler to frebsd.dsl that ignores this tag if the role=pgpkey only in > the print stylesheets. I think that perhaps a knob, perhaps %include.pgpkeys; or something, should be tested for (defaulted to off, of course...) as well, should somebody want to print the full keys as well as the fingerprints. -- +-------------------+--------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | MC Hammer, n. | | chris@calldei.com | Device used to ensure firm | | | seating of MicroChannel boards | +-------------------+--------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:27:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1262C37B403; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f5TJROU12249; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:27:24 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:27:24 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PGP keys in Handbook Message-ID: <20010629122724.B10236@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:19:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:19:32PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > PGP keys are taking up about 50 pages of the printed handbook. I > think this is great information for the HTML version, but I think that > fingerprints would be sufficient for our PostScript output. I've made > a change localy that adds a role=3D"pgpkey" attribute to the > tags that close the actual key, and then a vanilla > to enclose the fingerprints. I've then added a > handler to frebsd.dsl that ignores this tag if the role=3Dpgpkey only in > the print stylesheets. Hmm, printing the whole thing is clearly a bad idea, but I wonder if there's any way to put just fingerprints in the printed handbook. That might be a good middle ground. It only takes a line or so per user, but gets something people can check keys against onto paper provided by a reasionably reliable source which could be of value to the paranoid. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7PNabXY6L6fI4GtQRAk2pAJ9BSmAthljn62iWu7ReTdkO31zAlQCgmhgm w7ne7tlOjNYc+56JsseJM4Q= =UdDv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:39: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AAC37B403; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5TJcm390229; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:38:48 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Brooks Davis Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PGP keys in Handbook Message-ID: <20010629123848.D87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010629122724.B10236@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629122724.B10236@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:27:24PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:27:24PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > > tags that close the actual key, and then a vanilla > > to enclose the fingerprints. I've then added a > > handler to frebsd.dsl that ignores this tag if the role=pgpkey only in > > the print stylesheets. > > Hmm, printing the whole thing is clearly a bad idea, but I wonder > if there's any way to put just fingerprints in the printed handbook. > That might be a good middle ground. It only takes a line or so per user, > but gets something people can check keys against onto paper provided by > a reasionably reliable source which could be of value to the paranoid. Uhm.. Thats exactly what I proposed. Please re-read my email. Thats the whole point of the added attribute, modifications to the stylesheet, etc. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC8537B403; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:41:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f5TJfRJ14111; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:41:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:41:27 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PGP keys in Handbook Message-ID: <20010629124127.A13852@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010629122724.B10236@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010629123848.D87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629123848.D87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:38:48PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:38:48PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Uhm.. Thats exactly what I proposed. Please re-read my email. > Thats the whole point of the added attribute, modifications to the > stylesheet, etc. I'm sorry, I misread it (quite badly :-( .) My sincere apologies. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7PNnmXY6L6fI4GtQRAjouAJ459PxawIjEmBbWhQwNuGBKpY90WACfUSaJ 0K5vsnxf8m/dwGqkXOZVLrU= =st9H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 12:43:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BB2437B401; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@meow.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from murray@localhost) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5TJgup90298; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:42:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 12:42:56 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Chris Costello Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PGP keys in Handbook Message-ID: <20010629124256.E87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010629121932.C87852@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <20010629142334.H55395@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629142334.H55395@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 02:23:34PM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 02:23:34PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > I think that perhaps a knob, perhaps %include.pgpkeys; or > something, should be tested for (defaulted to off, of course...) > as well, should somebody want to print the full keys as well as > the fingerprints. I don't think its even worth a knob. Printed PGP keys are pretty worthless without the ability to cut and paste them into a keyring. Noone is going to transcribe the contents of a full printed page (or more) into a keyring. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 14:59:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (gilmore.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F291137B406 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:59:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@nas.nasa.gov) Received: from gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (IDENT:H8HP7qZqNhYhGuNxorap9oc24W88Cboz@localhost.nas.nasa.gov [127.0.0.1]) by gilmore.nas.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f5TLwau26504; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tweten@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov) Message-Id: <200106292158.f5TLwau26504@gilmore.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Dmitriy Kyrhlarov Cc: Pete Fritchman , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Bourne Shell Syntax Wierdness In-Reply-To: Message from Dmitriy Kyrhlarov of "Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:54:38 +0400." <3B3C262E.B44B479D@electromir.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:58:35 -0700 From: Dave Tweten Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org dimma@electromir.ru said: >true || command 1 && command 2 >equivalent: >true && command 2 >and it's a right... Not by POSIX.2. cynic@mail.cz said: >I'd guess that (since they have the same precedence and >associativity) is because >true || true && echo Oops! >is the same as >(true || true) && echo Oops! Also not what POSIX.2 says. mwm@mired.org said: >The || and && operators are left associative, so that your example - >which is ambiguous given only the information you provided - is parsed >as "( true || true ) && echo Oops!". Since "( true || true )" always >terminates normally, it should print "echo Oops!". >>Incidently, "true || { true && echo Oops! }" prints nothing -- which >>I would have expected with or without the "{}". >That's what would happen if the operators were right associative >instead of left associative - which would collide with most peoples >expectations based on common mathematical usage. But that isn't what POSIX.2 says when it defines the operators. It says, effectively, that these operators are right associative. Which, incidently, corresponds with most C programmers' expectations that these operators will behave like the operators of the same name in the C language. That's also what is suggested by the man page when it covers the topic under the heading, "Short-Circuit List Operators." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From POSIX.2: "command1 [ || command2 ] ... "First, command1 shall be executed. If its exit status is nonzero, command2 shall be executed, and so on until a command has a zero exit status or there are no more commands left to execute." By implication, if command 1 returns a zero exit status, the rest of the list up to a possible ";", "&", or , will not be executed. Also, in POSIX.2, section 3.9.3, "The operators && and || shall have equal precedence and shall be evaluated from beginning to end." Presumably, "beginning to end" is a bit of English language cultural chauvinism for "left to right." As I said in my original message, this variance between Bourne shell behavior, on the one hand, and POSIX.2, on the other, seems to be universal among Bourne shells I've been able to test. But, how to explain it on the man page? Particularly so a C programmer who reads the heading, "Short-Circuit List Operators," will understand that knowledge of the C-language or of POSIX.2 will only confuse him. So my conclusion is that the man page seems to be accurate as far as it goes, but it should also say that Bourne Shell "||" and "&&" operators are left associative and tharefore are not POSIX.2 compliant. -- M/S 258-5 | 1024-bit PGP fingerprint: | tweten@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center | 41 B0 89 0A 8F 94 6C 59 | (650) 604-4416 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 | 7C 80 10 20 25 C7 2F E6 | FAX: (650) 604-4377 We each earn what freedom of speech we defend for those who most offend us. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 18: 2:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.acvilon.com (ns.acvilon.com [62.176.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D909037B405 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 18:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stesha0313@langoo.com) Received: from dima (V90-p11.acvilon.com [62.176.92.53]) by ns.acvilon.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA18108 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 04:03:19 +0300 Message-Id: <200106300103.EAA18108@ns.acvilon.com> From: "Stesha" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=CA=EB=F3=E1?= - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C8=ED=F2=E5=F0=ED=E5=F2?= - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1=E8=E7=ED=E5=F1?= To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: koi8-r Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 04:02:32 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-Library: Indy 8.0.16-B X-Mailer: LK SendIt 2.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Èíôîðìàöèÿ îò êëóáà " Èíòåðíåò-áèçíåñ" Ðåàëüíûå âîçìîæíîñòè çàðàáîòêà â Èíòåðíåò! 1. 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Ïèøèòå - stesha0313@langoot.com Stesha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 23:10: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B341837B40A for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5U6A1h39654; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EA937B406 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5U62bK36118; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200106300602.f5U62bK36118@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaakko Hyvätti To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/28534: Please update package picprog-1.0.1 original document URL Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28534 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Please update package picprog-1.0.1 original document URL >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jun 29 23:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jaakko Hyvätti >Release: none >Organization: >Environment: >Description: I am the author of the picprog-1.0.1 package. I just noticed it has been included in FreeBSD distribution for some years. Cool! Just one note: the URL mentioned in documents: http://www.pp.htv.fi/jhyvatti/pic/ should be changed to: http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/ ..in order to be reachable forever. This address is redirection to where the pages happen to be located. Thanks and great work! >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jun 29 23:40: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D156A37B6E9; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5U6dxv43582; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 23:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106300639.f5U6dxv43582@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jaakko.hyvatti@iki.fi, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28534: Please update package picprog-1.0.1 original document URL Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Please update package picprog-1.0.1 original document URL State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Fri Jun 29 23:36:53 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28534 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 0:56:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe62.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.20.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCF937B405 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from babypukakid345@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:56:14 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [65.4.146.16] From: "~Lil Baybe Pooka~" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:58:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C100FF.CCDD4C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jun 2001 07:56:14.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[22D7BF20:01C1013A] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C100FF.CCDD4C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable can u please mail me some free ones.. i am a 13 year old teen and i = wanna learn some more about Lynux!!! 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C100FF.CCDD4C00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 3:25:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dns.itam.cas.cz (dns.itam.cas.cz [147.231.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F36B37B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 03:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kacula@itam.cas.cz) Received: (qmail 25683 invoked by uid 502); 30 Jun 2001 10:25:36 -0000 Received: from modem3.itam.cas.cz (HELO ondra) (147.231.20.82) by dns.itam.cas.cz with SMTP; 30 Jun 2001 10:25:36 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20010630121439.006b7450@mail.itam.cas.cz> X-Sender: kacula@mail.itam.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:14:39 +0200 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kacula the Great Subject: visaci zamek Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======59833C32======="; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-5981DF2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=======59833C32======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-5981DF2 dede mi s bsd c bse nebo co to je ja chci Visaci Zamek proverenou to kvalitu a ne nejakou sracku. 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Verze: 6.0.226 / Virová báze: 108 - datum vydání: 5.1.2001 --=======59833C32=======-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 11:37:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (tserver.conference.usenix.org [199.103.159.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E72E37BA60; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5UGCFd00647; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:12:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:12:15 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Building individual handbook chapters Message-ID: <20010630171215.A391@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010629155706.C323@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010629155706.C323@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 03:57:06PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 03:57:06PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > book.sgml.diff Add parameter entities for each chapter, and > wrap each chapter's in them, for conditional > inclusion. >=20 > Makefile.diff Introduce a new variable, CHAPTERS, which lists > the names of the chapters to build. >=20 > Fiddle with the JADEFLAGS variable to make sure > that each chapter in CHAPTERS has a > corresponding '-i ...' flag when passed to Jade. >=20 > These two diffs keep things the same for the standard Handbook build. >=20 > ports.Makefile A Makefile to go in a chapter subdirectory, in > this case ports/Makefile. This should be self > explanatory. Committed (along with a Makefile for each chapter). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjs9+l4ACgkQk6gHZCw343X8XgCfcxjL9YFkLuXmcqdsyOQYWqD/ qJAAnAi8nllLxq4d+/hApYTcRr0QOmEZ =Dynh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 13:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E556737B408 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5UKU1Z73584; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (236.dsl9226.surewest.net [63.92.26.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2637B405 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: by segfault.monkeys.com (Postfix, from userid 1237) id AFDAA4DA76; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20010630202413.AFDAA4DA76@segfault.monkeys.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: rfg@monkeys.com Reply-To: rfg@monkeys.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/28553: EACCES result for mkdir(2) not completely documented Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28553 >Category: docs >Synopsis: EACCES result for mkdir(2) not completely documented >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 30 13:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Infinite Monkeys & co. >Environment: >Description: The ERRORS section of the man page for mkdir(2) fails to mention that mkdir(2) will fail, return a -1, and yield an EACCES errno result when and if the user executing the call to mkdir(2) lacks write permission for the directory that would contain the directory to be created. >How-To-Repeat: man 2 mkdir >Fix: Change the [EACCES] part of the errors section to read as follows: [EACCES] Search permission is denied for a component of the path prefix, or write permission is denied for the directory that would immediately contain the new directory to be created. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 14:30: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188337B406 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5ULU1386778; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-141-144.mmcable.com [24.27.141.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B9D437B406 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 72820 invoked by uid 100); 30 Jun 2001 21:26:59 -0000 Message-Id: <20010630212659.72819.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 30 Jun 2001 21:26:59 -0000 From: Mike Meyer Reply-To: Mike Meyer To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/28555: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 28555 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jun 30 14:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #22: Sun Jun 24 13:15:49 CDT 2001 mwm@guru.mired.org:/sharetmp/obj/usr/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The style(9) page says not to use ! for testing values unless the value is a boolean. It also says to test pointers against NULL. This leaves open the question of how other values that aren't booleans should be tested. >How-To-Repeat: Read the man page to try and decide if you should write "if (x)" or if (x != 0). >Fix: Apply the attached page to the style(9) man page. --- /usr/src/share/man/man9/style.9 Fri May 18 07:27:37 2001 +++ style.9 Sat Jun 30 16:23:34 2001 @@ -449,14 +449,37 @@ !(p = f()) .Ed .Pp -Don't use '!' for tests unless it's a boolean, e.g. use +For tests, always compare the value to the appropriate 0 instead of +checking it directly, unless the value is a boolean. +For pointers, use: +.Bd -literal +if (p != NULL) +.Ed +.Pp +not +.PP +.Bd -literal +if (!p) +.Ed +.Pp +For other values, use: .Bd -literal if (*p == '\e0') .Ed .Pp not .Bd -literal -if (!*p) +if (*p) +.Ed +.Pp +unless the value is a boolean. In that case, use: +.Bd -literal +if (p) +.Ed +.Pp +and +.Bd -literal +if (!p) .Ed .Pp Routines returning void * should not have their return values cast >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 14:40:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4AF37B440; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5ULe6n88074; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200106302140.f5ULe6n88074@freefall.freebsd.org> To: amakawa@sf.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/24839: fix ether.bridge Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix ether.bridge State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Jun 30 14:39:53 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Commited, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jun 30 14:39:53 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC remnder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24839 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 15: 0: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B5C37B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5UM05W97431; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106302200.f5UM05W97431@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/28555: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/28555; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28555: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 14:57:49 -0700 Mike Meyer writes: > > >Number: 28555 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. > >Description: > > The style(9) page says not to use ! for testing values unless the > value is a boolean. It also says to test pointers against NULL. This > leaves open the question of how other values that aren't booleans > should be tested. > > >How-To-Repeat: > > Read the man page to try and decide if you should write "if (x)" or > if (x != 0). I think it is quite clear on the subject. If it's not a boolean, don't treat it like one; i.e., compare it against the value you're looking for. '0' may not always be that value. Regardless, this does not belong as a PR, let alone in the docs/ category. It belongs as a post on -hackers, asking what people think, not as a change request. Since *developers* are expected to follow style(9), it is the *developers* (i.e., -hackers@) that you should be proposing the change to. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 16: 0:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E6A37B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5UN0EA27618; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106302300.f5UN0EA27618@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/28555: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/28555; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28555: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:55:10 -0500 Dima Dorfman types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > > > >Number: 28555 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about booleans for testing. > > >Description: > > > > The style(9) page says not to use ! for testing values unless the > > value is a boolean. It also says to test pointers against NULL. This > > leaves open the question of how other values that aren't booleans > > should be tested. > > > > >How-To-Repeat: > > > > Read the man page to try and decide if you should write "if (x)" or > > if (x != 0). > I think it is quite clear on the subject. If it's not a boolean, > don't treat it like one; i.e., compare it against the value you're > looking for. '0' may not always be that value. I did overstated the case in the description. I agree that it's clear on the subject; I think it needs to be made explicit. > Regardless, this does not belong as a PR, let alone in the docs/ > category. It belongs as a post on -hackers, asking what people think, > not as a change request. Since *developers* are expected to follow > style(9), it is the *developers* (i.e., -hackers@) that you should be > proposing the change to. We both agree I'm not proposing a change in the style they have to follow; I'm just proposing making something explicit instead of implicit. As such, I'm not sure it warrants discussion. If the PR belongs in another category, please feel free to move it to either move it or suggest one for someone else to move it to. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 17:22:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07BFE37B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 22973 invoked from network); 30 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0700 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 30 Jun 2001 17:22:49 -0700 X-Sent: 1 Jul 2001 00:22:49 GMT Reply-To: From: "Otter" To: Subject: foreign man pages required for building docs? Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've found that the japanese docs are the only language I can't build. After a cvsup of the docs, I can build all languages but this one. It's looking for the man for a2p, but the actual is in a different location than where the japanese port is looking for it. I'm not sure this is exactly worthy of a PR, since I'm not sure about working with japanese man pages. I just wanted to build all the languages for a convenient reference point to anyone who may be on my network. See below for a paste of what i'm seeing... kashmir# pwd /usr/doc kashmir# make install install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 `xargs < HTML.manifest` /usr/share/doc/ja/books/porters-handbook install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 docbook.css /usr/share/doc/ja/books/porters-handbook ===> ja_JP.eucJP/man ===> ja_JP.eucJP/man/man1 install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 a2p.1.gz /usr/share/man/ja/man1 install: a2p.1.gz: No such file or directory ^^^^^^^^ *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man/man1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. kashmir# whereis a2p a2p: /usr/bin/a2p /usr/share/man/man1/a2p.1.gz kashmir# Please Cc: me as I'm not subscribed to this list. TIA. -Otter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jun 30 20:17:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from treehouse.askee.net (dsl027-164-142.atl1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.164.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C5237B403 for ; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 20:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bkennedy@treehouse.askee.net) Received: (from bkennedy@localhost) by treehouse.askee.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f613HsM01938 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:17:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bkennedy) Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:17:54 -0400 From: Bryan Kennedy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestion for adding stuff to the handbook Message-ID: <20010630231754.A979@treehouse.askee.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm a new FreeBSD user, and I've a suggestion for your handbook (the one on www.freebsd.org). I installed and cvsup'ed and all the good stuff as described to get everything up to date with stable. Then I tried to get my SoundBlaster Live (value) to work. This took longer than installing to begin with. I'd like to suggest the following: Section 14.4 begins with "cat /dev/sndstat". My system didn't have sndstat in /dev. I rebuild the world and kernel all over again, thinking that perhaps I'd done something wrong. Still no dice. So I looked through the MAKEDEV stuff and saw part about mknod sndstat. I took a chance and ran it anyway. Success! I'd suggest adding a note about what to do if sndstat doesn't exist (I don't know that blindly running MAKEDEV is the best idea). Overall your handbook has been a huge help... keep up the good work! -- Bryan Kennedy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message