From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 6:40:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow025o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA2437B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:37:55 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Minor changes for Handbook Chapter 9 Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 14:39:27 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-co= nfig.html 9.4 The Configuration File Last sentence in the paragraph below the list of i386 cpu types: If you are unsure which type your CPU use, of your CPU type, Near the end: pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. This is used by the userland PPP software. The number after tun = specifies |A| ... pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) This is a ``pseudo-terminal'' or simulated login port. It is used by incoming telnet and rlogin sessions, xterm, and some other applications such as emacs. The number indicates the number of ptys to create. |A| ^ after pty ... pseudo-device bpf # Berkeley packet filter This is the Berkeley Packet Filter. This pseudo-device allows network interfaces to be placed in promiscuous mode, capturing every packet on a broadcast network (e.g., an Ethernet). These packets can be captured to disk and or examined with the tcpdump(1) program. Perhaps add a note here: Note: The bpf pseudo-device is also used by the dhclient(8) program to obtain the IP address of the default-router etc. Leave it uncommented if you connect to a network using DHCP. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-tr= ouble.html 9.6 If Something Goes Wrong =46irst Note: The proper command to ``unlock'' the kernel file that make installs (in order to move another kernel back permanently) is: # chflags noschg /kernel An addition perhaps: If you find you can't do this, you are probably running at a = securelevel(8) greater than zero. Edit the kern_securelevel entry in /etc/rc.conf to kern_securelevel=3D"-1" and reboot. Remember to change it back when = you're happy with your new kernel. J. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 8:15:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aries-es-hq.mwr.gov.cn (unknown [203.93.38.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B120537B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 08:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from news@htisetan.com) Received: from html (61.175.53.70 [61.175.53.70]) by aries-es-hq.mwr.gov.cn with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id QJKVAL1J; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:06:10 +0800 From: news@htisetan.com To: train@netonesoft.com Subject: ÒÁÊƵ¤Á÷Ðп챨 Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:13:29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="DEFAULT_CHARSET" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Message-Id: <20010805151537.B120537B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ÒÁÊƵ¤Á÷Ðп챨


 
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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 10:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-2.worldonline.es (pop3-2.worldonline.es [212.7.33.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3AFC37B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (tm0.worldonline.es [212.7.34.10]) by pop3-2.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id B751DD3581 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:23:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.209]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f75HMxR60328 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:23:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:47:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Faq build problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Building spanish and english faq at freefall works ok but when=20 i try to build them locally i get these errors: Spanish FAQ: /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/s= gml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphic= s-number-limit%" /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/s= gml/freebsd.dsl:504:14:E: reference to undefined variable "biblio-xref-titl= e" /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/s= gml/freebsd.dsl:132:18:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-i= talic%" English FAQ: /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/s= gml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphic= s-number-limit%" /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/s= gml/freebsd.dsl:129:20:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-i= talic%" Some help? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------- Jes=FAs Rodr=EDguez IP Engineering & Security Manager Tiscali / World Online jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com http://www.worldonline.es Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 10:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2541637B403 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f75HU1W46394; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mailhost.freebsd.lublin.pl (mailhost.freebsd.lublin.pl [212.182.115.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C06237B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from venglin@freebsd.lublin.pl) Received: from lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl (qmailr@lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl [212.182.115.11]) by mailhost.freebsd.lublin.pl (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f75HKdN12053 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 19:20:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from venglin@freebsd.lublin.pl) Received: (qmail 12048 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Aug 2001 17:20:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20010805172038.12047.qmail@lagoon.freebsd.lublin.pl> Date: 5 Aug 2001 17:20:38 -0000 From: Przemyslaw Frasunek Reply-To: Przemyslaw Frasunek To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29472: Upgrade of EXAMPLES section in mount_ntfs(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29472 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Upgrade of EXAMPLES section in mount_ntfs(8) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 05 10:30:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Przemyslaw Frasunek >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: czuby.net >Environment: N/A >Description: Examples section of mount_ntfs manpage says to use /dev/wd* which is deprecated. >How-To-Repeat: N/A >Fix: --- /usr/src/sbin/mount_ntfs/mount_ntfs.8.old Sun Aug 5 19:13:51 2001 +++ /usr/src/sbin/mount_ntfs/mount_ntfs.8 Sun Aug 5 19:13:59 2001 @@ -96,7 +96,7 @@ Default is none. .Sh EXAMPLES To mount an ntfs volume located in -.Pa /dev/wd1s1 : +.Pa /dev/ad1s1 : .Bd -literal -offset indent # mount_ntfs /dev/wd1s1 /mnt .Ed >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 10:45:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65137B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f75HcVW47179; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108051738.f75HcVW47179@freefall.freebsd.org> To: venglin@freebsd.lublin.pl, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29472: Upgrade of EXAMPLES section in mount_ntfs(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Upgrade of EXAMPLES section in mount_ntfs(8) manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 5 10:37:50 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This was fixed in revision 1.9 by nik: ---------------------------- revision 1.9 date: 2001/04/04 08:42:40; author: nik; state: Exp; lines: +3 -3 wd1s1a -> ad1s1a Submitted by: sanpei ---------------------------- But was never MFC'd Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 5 10:37:50 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: Nik's MFC reminder. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29472 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 11:41:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5674837B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A3664C01AC; Sun, 05 Aug 2001 11:41:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 11:41:42 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > Hello, > > Building spanish and english faq at freefall works ok but when > i try to build them locally i get these errors: > > Spanish FAQ: > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphics-number-limit%" > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:504:14:E: reference to undefined variable "biblio-xref-title" > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:132:18:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-italic%" > > English FAQ: > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphics-number-limit%" > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:129:20:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-italic%" > > Some help? I think your docproj is out of date. The current version is 1.6 and it has some additional ependancies such as using peps to do the image processing. I have built the faqs in the past and a cvsup and make didn't have any problems. I did a make clean and tried again to see if I bypassed something. I watched it build the english version of the faqs and sent this. BTW, is there an es version of the handbook available on the web. I have been building it and shipping a zip of the *.htmls to a friend in Tampico. Kent > > Thanks in advance. > > ------------------------------------- > Jesús Rodríguez > IP Engineering & Security Manager > Tiscali / World Online > jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com > http://www.worldonline.es > Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 > ------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 12: 2:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-1.worldonline.es (pop3-1.worldonline.es [212.7.33.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E331737B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (tm0.worldonline.es [212.7.34.10]) by pop3-1.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F705FF0E; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:02:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.209]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f75J27R60527; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:02:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:26:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: Kent Stewart Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem In-Reply-To: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: >=20 >=20 > Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > Building spanish and english faq at freefall works ok but when > > i try to build them locally i get these errors: > >=20 > > Spanish FAQ: > >=20 > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../sha= re/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-gra= phics-number-limit%" > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../sha= re/sgml/freebsd.dsl:504:14:E: reference to undefined variable "biblio-xref-= title" > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../sha= re/sgml/freebsd.dsl:132:18:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xr= ef-italic%" > >=20 > > English FAQ: > >=20 > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../sha= re/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-gra= phics-number-limit%" > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../sha= re/sgml/freebsd.dsl:129:20:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xr= ef-italic%" > >=20 > > Some help? >=20 > I think your docproj is out of date. The current version is 1.6 and it ha= s > some additional ependancies such as using peps to do the image processing= =2E I > have built the faqs in the past and a cvsup and make didn't have any > problems. I did a make clean and tried again to see if I bypassed somethi= ng. > I watched it build the english version of the faqs and sent this. I've updated my docproj port before and build faq again before sending the= =20 email (and problem still was). I've builded faq at freefall and builds ok. > BTW, is there an es version of the handbook available on the web. I have > been building it and shipping a zip of the *.htmls to a friend in Tampico= =2E Yes, i know. I hope to make some big commits on it during next days. Thanks! ------------------------------------- Jes=FAs Rodr=EDguez IP Engineering & Security Manager Tiscali / World Online jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com http://www.worldonline.es Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 12:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71E237B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA6A180018C; Sun, 05 Aug 2001 12:11:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6D9A6A.FF966E72@urx.com> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 12:11:38 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Building spanish and english faq at freefall works ok but when > > > i try to build them locally i get these errors: > > > > > > Spanish FAQ: > > > > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphics-number-limit%" > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:504:14:E: reference to undefined variable "biblio-xref-title" > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:132:18:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-italic%" > > > > > > English FAQ: > > > > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:181:30:E: reference to undefined variable "%callout-graphics-number-limit%" > > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:129:20:E: reference to undefined variable "%refentry-xref-italic%" > > > > > > Some help? > > > > I think your docproj is out of date. The current version is 1.6 and it has > > some additional ependancies such as using peps to do the image processing. I > > have built the faqs in the past and a cvsup and make didn't have any > > problems. I did a make clean and tried again to see if I bypassed something. > > I watched it build the english version of the faqs and sent this. > > I've updated my docproj port before and build faq again before sending the > email (and problem still was). I've builded faq at freefall and builds ok. I receive a private email that docproj was broken. I update docproj a while ago and that version works. It looks like something changed recently. > > > BTW, is there an es version of the handbook available on the web. I have > > been building it and shipping a zip of the *.htmls to a friend in Tampico. > > Yes, i know. I hope to make some big commits on it during next days. Cool! Kent > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------- > Jesús Rodríguez > IP Engineering & Security Manager > Tiscali / World Online > jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com > http://www.worldonline.es > Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 > ------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 12:25:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.geekhouse.net (valve.dub.net [64.81.252.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656837B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by cartman.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 026F5326A; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:25:54 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: John Murphy Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minor changes for Handbook Chapter 9 Message-ID: <20010805122554.B92283@cartman.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 05 Aug 2001 at 14:39:27 +0100, John Murphy wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html > > 9.4 The Configuration File > Last sentence in the paragraph below the list of i386 cpu types: > If you are unsure which type your CPU use, > of your CPU type, > > Near the end: > pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. > > This is used by the userland PPP software. The number after tun specifies > |A| > ... > > pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) > > This is a ``pseudo-terminal'' or simulated login port. It is used by > incoming telnet and rlogin sessions, xterm, and some other applications > such as emacs. The number indicates the number of ptys to create. > |A| ^ after pty > ... > > pseudo-device bpf # Berkeley packet filter > > This is the Berkeley Packet Filter. This pseudo-device allows network > interfaces to be placed in promiscuous mode, capturing every packet on > a broadcast network (e.g., an Ethernet). These packets can be captured > to disk and or examined with the tcpdump(1) program. > > Perhaps add a note here: > Note: The bpf pseudo-device is also used by the dhclient(8) program > to obtain the IP address of the default-router etc. Leave it > uncommented if you connect to a network using DHCP. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-trouble.html > 9.6 If Something Goes Wrong > > First Note: > The proper command to ``unlock'' the kernel file that make installs > (in order to move another kernel back permanently) is: > > # chflags noschg /kernel > > An addition perhaps: > If you find you can't do this, you are probably running at a securelevel(8) > greater than zero. Edit the kern_securelevel entry in /etc/rc.conf to > kern_securelevel="-1" and reboot. Remember to change it back when you're > happy with your new kernel. Thanks again. I just committed this stuff. - jim -- - jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. - - http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 12:30:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.geekhouse.net (valve.dub.net [64.81.252.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4366637B405 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by cartman.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5ADA326A; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:30:24 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Chris Dempsey Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken link on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html Message-ID: <20010805123024.C92283@cartman.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20010804162500.P15428-100000@inferno.luckyirish.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010804162500.P15428-100000@inferno.luckyirish.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 04 Aug 2001 at 16:26:21 -0700, Chris Dempsey wrote: > The link to Wind River near the end of the page is broken. It currently > points to http://www.wccdrom.com/info/contact.phtml I just committed the fix. I also updated the mailing address and phone number for WRS too. - jim -- - jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. - - http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 14:39:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23DD37B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:39:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f75LTJ303319; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:29:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:29:19 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kent Stewart Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem Message-ID: <20010805222918.C3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i7F3eY7HS/tUJxUd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 11:41:42AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --i7F3eY7HS/tUJxUd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 11:41:42AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > BTW, is there an es version of the handbook available on the web. I have > been building it and shipping a zip of the *.htmls to a friend in Tampico. http://www.freebsd.org/es/index.html will have links to it. In addition, the Handbook (and all the rest of the documentation) is available in all the languages we support in all the output formats we support at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ It is available there as regular .tar.[gz|bz2|zip] files, as well as =2Etgz files that you can give to pkg_add(1). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --i7F3eY7HS/tUJxUd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjttuq4ACgkQk6gHZCw343Vq1QCfU8pjDDfuASJOkg974P/PV+0r BAMAn3fL5NzjADWoC6u1VjcnewFsRS3U =lWvT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i7F3eY7HS/tUJxUd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 14:47:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4212D37B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:47:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AEE5DD102A0; Sun, 05 Aug 2001 14:47:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3B6DBEE3.F356F82D@urx.com> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 14:47:15 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jesus Rodriguez , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem References: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com> <20010805222918.C3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 11:41:42AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > BTW, is there an es version of the handbook available on the web. I have > > been building it and shipping a zip of the *.htmls to a friend in Tampico. > > http://www.freebsd.org/es/index.html > > will have links to it. In addition, the Handbook (and all the rest of > the documentation) is available in all the languages we support in all > the output formats we support at > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ > > It is available there as regular .tar.[gz|bz2|zip] files, as well as > .tgz files that you can give to pkg_add(1). I started here and all that is available is the faqs. See ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/. The other books aren't available. The problem was one where if we started tinkering with his server, his link to the internet would be down and he needed a book on site. Kent > > N > -- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ > FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ > > --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Cool site http://www.bmwfilms.com mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 15:36:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAF637B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f75MaeV04652; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:36:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:36:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kent Stewart Cc: Nik Clayton , Jesus Rodriguez , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem Message-ID: <20010805233639.F3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B6D9366.A6B19047@urx.com> <20010805222918.C3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <3B6DBEE3.F356F82D@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0hHDr/TIsw4o3iPK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B6DBEE3.F356F82D@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:47:15PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0hHDr/TIsw4o3iPK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Copying Jesus for comment; On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:47:15PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > I started here and all that is available is the faqs. See > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/.=20 >=20 > The other books aren't available. The problem was one where if we > started tinkering with his server, his link to the internet would be > down and he needed a book on site. The Spanish Handbook is in the CVS tree but is not currently being built as part of the normal build process. Normally this would be because the Spanish team don't think it's sufficiently ready yet. Jesus? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --0hHDr/TIsw4o3iPK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjttynYACgkQk6gHZCw343W2UwCdE8kKK/oT5Iman3sTbU7RrfZ5 gcAAnRQUUPuCuiDf+VJO9pVcFEdHX8k6 =b80X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0hHDr/TIsw4o3iPK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 15:55:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sesam-ffm-001.eudom.com (unknown [195.88.186.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D5937B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:55:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sesam@t-online.de) Received: from mail pickup service by sesam-ffm-001.eudom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:54:51 +0200 From: G.Vehns To: X-Priority: 1 Subject: VERMOEGENSBERATUNG Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2001 22:54:51.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[A2C49F80:01C11E01] Date: 6 Aug 2001 00:54:51 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ! 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Mit freundlichen Gruessen Gerhard Vehns Fax 0721 9473048 sesam@t-online.de IFAG - Sesam Software Elsa Brandstroemstr.15 76228 Karlsruhe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 21: 2:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (host129.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5CD37B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7644hA43156; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: How do I get the doc sources? From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 05 Aug 2001 21:04:41 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I"m planning to submit some PRs against some FDP doc's and I thought I'd be a good boy and include diffs of source files. I have read most of the web site and cvsup'd doc-all and I can't find the source SGML anywhere. The web site seemed to only have "attics" (not that I'd want to get it from there anyway - that's what cvsup is for, right? Assuming I'm doing something wrong with cvsup, here's the relevant parts of my supfile. See anything wrong? *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org *default tag=RELENG_4 *default release=cvs doc-all Looking in sup/doc-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4, I see mostly .sgml and some .docb files and a directory structure that isn't matched (quite) under /usr/share or /usr/local/share. And the cvsup took about a second and hadn't been done before for about six weeks. I was expecting many changes and I observed zero. What am I missing in this scheme? I'm wondering if I should try "doc-all tag=.", but doesn't that get me the very latest docs that would go with CURRENT? Maybe you could say something about the way document versions and OS versions interrelate. Thanks. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 22:23: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.ms-agentur.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C66937B403 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 22:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.ms-agentur.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id HAA10956; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:30:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3B6E2A1F.E0349B98@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 07:24:47 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I get the doc sources? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > I"m planning to submit some PRs against some FDP doc's and > I thought I'd be a good boy and include diffs of source files. > I have read most of the web site and cvsup'd doc-all and I > can't find the source SGML anywhere. The web site seemed > to only have "attics" (not that I'd want to get it from there > anyway - that's what cvsup is for, right? > > Assuming I'm doing something wrong with cvsup, here's the > relevant parts of my supfile. See anything wrong? > > *default host=cvsup8.FreeBSD.org > *default tag=RELENG_4 > *default release=cvs > doc-all > > Looking in sup/doc-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4, I see mostly > .sgml and some .docb files and a directory structure that > isn't matched (quite) under /usr/share or /usr/local/share. > And the cvsup took about a second and hadn't been done before > for about six weeks. I was expecting many changes and I > observed zero. > > What am I missing in this scheme? I'm wondering if I should > try "doc-all tag=.", but doesn't that get me the very latest > docs that would go with CURRENT? Maybe you could say something > about the way document versions and OS versions interrelate. DOCS, like PORTS, exist as current-only version. You may alternatively sync to the RELEASE version of the docs. There is no such thing as a STABLE or SECURITY (RELENG_4 rsp. -_4_3) version. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 23:27:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (host129.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA30A37B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f766UGp43397; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I get the doc sources? References: <3B6E2A1F.E0349B98@i-clue.de> From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 05 Aug 2001 23:30:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: <3B6E2A1F.E0349B98@i-clue.de> Message-ID: <9dzo9dzonc.o9d@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christoph Sold writes: > DOCS, like PORTS, exist as current-only version. Dang. I should have tried tag=. after all. I was SURE the "DANGER! WARNING! LOOK OUT! VORSICHT!" warning about "ports-all tag=." in the example stable-supfile (which uses neither ports-all or doc-all) implied the same warning doesn't apply to "doc-all". Oh well. I should have thought to look for the example doc-supfile. Another item for my bug list! Anyhoo, thanks for the quick response. I've got lots of SGML files to play with now. My first day on any mailing list is turning out a lot more successful than most of my efforts on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc have been. Going to have to spend yet more hours configuring this funky Gnus reader, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 5 23:50: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038A37B403 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f766o1v25707; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from cvis21.Marconicomms.com (cvis21.marconicomms.com [195.99.244.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D5537B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sje2bk@marconi.com) Received: from cvis03.gpt.co.uk (unverified) by cvis21.Marconicomms.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:48:31 +0100 Received: from bkrzu6.de.marconicomms.com by cvis03.gpt.co.uk with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/cvms-32) id HAA23852; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:48:33 +0100 (BST) Received: from bk4957.de.marconicomms.com (bk4957.de.marconicomms.com [172.28.39.232]) by bkrzu6.de.marconicomms.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21287 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:48:33 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from sje2bk@localhost) by bk4957.de.marconicomms.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f766mma00607; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:48:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sje2bk) Message-Id: <200108060648.f766mma00607@bk4957.de.marconicomms.com> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:48:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens.Schweikhardt@marconi.com Reply-To: Jens.Schweikhardt@marconi.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/29479: Messed up SYNOPSIS in some on-line man pages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29479 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Messed up SYNOPSIS in some on-line man pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 05 23:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jens Schweikhardt >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Marconi >Environment: N/A >Description: The SYNOPSIS section of some man pages accessible via http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi is messed up. In particular, it does seem to have problems with backspacing/overstriking. In addition, hard line breaks in the SYNOPSIS seem to be ignored. >How-To-Repeat: Click on http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=kill&sektion=1 The SYNOPSIS looks like this, note the repeated characters: SYNOPSIS k ki il ll l [- -s s signal_name] pid ... kill -l [exit_status] kill -signal_n na am me e pid ... kill -signal_n nu um mb be er r pid ... Note also the vanished line breaks, i.e. on my local system kill(1) reads SYNOPSIS kill [-s signal_name] pid ... kill -l [exit_status] kill -signal_name pid ... kill -signal_number pid ... >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 0:16:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FBA37B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f766uGW07766; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:56:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:56:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How do I get the doc sources? Message-ID: <20010806075615.J3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3B6E2A1F.E0349B98@i-clue.de> <9dzo9dzonc.o9d@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rwbb4r/vLufKlfJs" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <9dzo9dzonc.o9d@localhost.localdomain>; from swear@aa.net on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 11:30:15PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --rwbb4r/vLufKlfJs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 11:30:15PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Dang. I should have tried tag=3D. after all. I was SURE the > "DANGER! WARNING! LOOK OUT! VORSICHT!" warning about > "ports-all tag=3D." in the example stable-supfile (which uses > neither ports-all or doc-all) implied the same warning doesn't=20 > apply to "doc-all". Oh well. I should have thought to look for=20 > the example doc-supfile. Another item for my bug list! I've just updated the comment in stable-supfile, and added one to doc-supfile, to explain this. Thanks, N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --rwbb4r/vLufKlfJs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtuP48ACgkQk6gHZCw343UpmgCcD08NsaO+3PzjlUatw+8DW2HI zDQAn3OtXqkfx7Y7Dr1npuO/XoBr0J9+ =JP0d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rwbb4r/vLufKlfJs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 0:17: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50A537B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f766vO507776; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:57:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 07:57:24 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Depending on libxslt Message-ID: <20010806075723.K3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010802171857.B24850@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <7m66c5mvv9.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> <7mitg1kewz.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3xQkynibq3FKlJyM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7mitg1kewz.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 01:09:32PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3xQkynibq3FKlJyM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 01:09:32PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I'll try libxslt later whether it can handle Japanese encodings correct= ly. >=20 > I checked libxslt with EUC-JP encoding and it seems ok. In addition to > your example of index.xsl, it requires processing instruction such as > . Great. I've added the dependency, and I'll commit the sample .xml and =2Exsl files I've come up with to the www/ repo shortly. I won't commit the Makefile's for another 24-48 hours, to give the mirrors time to catch up with the new requirement for libxslt. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --3xQkynibq3FKlJyM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtuP9MACgkQk6gHZCw343WPMACePAWLY+ZA2/ecmAzmDLx/89ts 6asAnA9gVJ2ig2giQYqbwxMPMXY9dHjW =tcV+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3xQkynibq3FKlJyM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 1: 6:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-1.worldonline.es (pop3-1.worldonline.es [212.7.33.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1944E37B403; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 01:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Received: from belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (tm0.worldonline.es [212.7.34.10]) by pop3-1.worldonline.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB975FDE1; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:06:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct (IDENT:jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct [10.34.0.209]) by belial.tm.wolnet.worldonline.es (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7686hR62733; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:06:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:31:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Jesus Rodriguez X-Sender: jesus.rodriguez@wol209.tm.bcn.worldonline.ct To: Nik Clayton Cc: Kent Stewart , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faq build problem In-Reply-To: <20010805233639.F3254@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Nik Clayton wrote: > Copying Jesus for comment; >=20 > On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:47:15PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > I started here and all that is available is the faqs. See > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1/books/.=20 > >=20 > > The other books aren't available. The problem was one where if we > > started tinkering with his server, his link to the internet would be > > down and he needed a book on site. >=20 > The Spanish Handbook is in the CVS tree but is not currently being built > as part of the normal build process. Normally this would be because the > Spanish team don't think it's sufficiently ready yet. >=20 > Jesus? You are right, i think it's still not ready to be included in the build process. I'm trying to finish some modifications this week and try to get it ready for 4.4-release but i'm not sure. ------------------------------------- Jes=FAs Rodr=EDguez IP Engineering & Security Manager Tiscali / World Online jesus.rodriguez@es.tiscali.com http://www.worldonline.es Tel. + (34) 93-3930800 ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 2: 8: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7040037B403; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f76970T14411; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:07:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:07:00 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: John Baldwin Cc: Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010806120700.D1228@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, Greg Lehey References: <20010724033112.B46693@mppsystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:59:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:59:38AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 24-Jul-01 Mike Pritchard wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 04:50:18PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > >> > >> On 23-Jul-01 Greg Lehey wrote: > >> > On Monday, 23 July 2001 at 12:21:24 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > >> >> On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 03:57:33AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > >> >>> I agreed to it, never requested it. At the time I suggested > >> >>> that if all we are going to have is a plain ".Os" line in every man > >> >>> page with no information, then we should just remove ".Os" totally, > >> >>> since it it just taking up space and processing time. > >> >> > >> >> Historically, a missing .Os call would result in an empty bottom left > >> >> corner. > >> >> With -mdocNG, as of this delta, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> the .Os call is not (strictly speaking) required at all, so we may > >> >> eventually remove it completely, yes. I think I will do this after > >> >> NetBSD and OpenBSD upgrade to -mdocNG. > >> > > >> > How would this handle non-native man pages? I have a whole collection > >> > of man pages for different operating systems on my system. I don't > >> > want the formatting software to claim that they relate to the system > >> > on which they're formatted. It looks to me as if the .Os should > >> > explicitly specify which operating system the man page belongs to. > >> > >> I agree. Especially for manpages that are very OS-specific, such as many > >> kernel API manpages which document API's very specific to FreeBSD. If > >> someone > >> looks at that manpage on a Solaris box, it shouldn't be claiming that > >> solaris > >> implements sx locks for example. > > > > We have had very specific FreeBSD only features, and the man page has > > a ".Os FreeBSD" line in it, only to have NetBSD/OpenBSD adopt it later. > > We have also take software from those two groups and removed the > > ".Os NetBSD" lines from them because the manual actually describes what > > is going on under FreeBSD. > > So? Surely they are competent enough to update their .Os macros when they port > software. Also, you are assuming this happens for all features. It doesn't. > If I copy sx.9 to a NetBSD box and view it, it claims NetBSD implements sx > locks. This is _wrong_. This is a _lie_. If I copy lockmgr.9 with an .Os > FreeBSD in it to a NetBSD box, it claims that FreeBSD implemenets lockmgr(). > It doesn't say that NetBSD doesn't. > If you are just going to look at the _output_ of the sx.9 on a different OS, you should copy and view the .cat version of the manpage in question generated on the "native" OS. You will probably only need the _source_ of the manpage if you are going to port this feature to another OS, and then you should at least edit the manpage and put the relevant credits to the HISTORY section. > > I can see two cases where having a non-blank ".Os" call are needed. > > > > 1) You are documenting an obsolete version of something. Say feature > > 'x' went away in FreeBSD version 4.0, but you still want to document it > > so people who are upgrading can figure out what the old feature did > > so they can upgrade to the new feature. In this case, ".Os FreeBSD 4.0" > > would be correct. The compat libraries are probably about the only > > thing to which this would apply. > > Erm, isn't that what .Sh HISTORY is for? If you include a version number in > the .Os line, it should probably list the range of all versions that the > docuemented feature/API was valid for. I'm not sure mdoc likes version ranges > however, and it would involve a lot of fixup work for old manpages. > .Os (by design) should document the operating system/release the manpage is written for. Currently, an empty (or ever missing) .Os call causes the default value to be substituted. Historically, original CSRG manpages were written with an empty .Os call causing the default "BSD" to be displayed. The default has since been changed to "FreeBSD X.Y". > > 2) You are documenting a feature of another operating system. > > Then you would want to include a ".Os other-os" line. I don't > > think we have any of these cases right now. > > When our manpages are read on another OS, they "are documenting a feature of > another operating system". You've just proved my point. > Not when they are read "properly" -- you should be viewing the .cat version of the manpage. Just copying some foreign code and compiling it on a given system may not work at all or not work properly. Similarly for manpages. If you take a Linux binary, and run it under emulation, it will work. If you take a Linux sources for this binary, you may not even be able to compile it on FreeBSD. Similarly for manpages. If you take the "raw" source for the manpage, you may not even be able to "compile" it (-mdoc package may be of different version or missing, etc.). If you take the "binary" of the manpage (preprocessed output), you should be able to read it exactly as it was seen on the targetted OS. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 2:22: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (unknown [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F1737B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:21:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EFD96ACCA; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:51:39 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:51:39 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010806185139.I69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010724033112.B46693@mppsystems.com> <20010806120700.D1228@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010806120700.D1228@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 12:07:00PM +0300 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 6 August 2001 at 12:07:00 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 09:59:38AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 24-Jul-01 Mike Pritchard wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 04:50:18PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: >>>> >>> We have had very specific FreeBSD only features, and the man page has >>> a ".Os FreeBSD" line in it, only to have NetBSD/OpenBSD adopt it later. >>> We have also take software from those two groups and removed the >>> ".Os NetBSD" lines from them because the manual actually describes what >>> is going on under FreeBSD. >> >> So? Surely they are competent enough to update their .Os macros when they port >> software. Also, you are assuming this happens for all features. It doesn't. >> If I copy sx.9 to a NetBSD box and view it, it claims NetBSD implements sx >> locks. This is _wrong_. This is a _lie_. If I copy lockmgr.9 with an .Os >> FreeBSD in it to a NetBSD box, it claims that FreeBSD implemenets lockmgr(). >> It doesn't say that NetBSD doesn't. > > If you are just going to look at the _output_ of the sx.9 on a > different OS, you should copy and view the .cat version of the > manpage in question generated on the "native" OS. Why? What if I don't have the native OS? What if I use the man pages anyway, even after being told to do so? Where do we supply the cat pages for FreeBSD for download? I don't buy this "should". > You will probably only need the _source_ of the manpage if you are > going to port this feature to another OS, and then you should at > least edit the manpage and put the relevant credits to the HISTORY > section. No, I will need the source of this man page if I want to save space. Or if I want to format it multiple times for different output devices. >>> I can see two cases where having a non-blank ".Os" call are needed. >>> >>> 1) You are documenting an obsolete version of something. Say feature >>> 'x' went away in FreeBSD version 4.0, but you still want to document it >>> so people who are upgrading can figure out what the old feature did >>> so they can upgrade to the new feature. In this case, ".Os FreeBSD 4.0" >>> would be correct. The compat libraries are probably about the only >>> thing to which this would apply. >> >> Erm, isn't that what .Sh HISTORY is for? If you include a version number in >> the .Os line, it should probably list the range of all versions that the >> docuemented feature/API was valid for. I'm not sure mdoc likes version ranges >> however, and it would involve a lot of fixup work for old manpages. > > .Os (by design) should document the operating system/release the manpage > is written for. I'm in agreement with you on that one. > Currently, an empty (or ever missing) .Os call causes the default > value to be substituted. That's a reasonable default. > Historically, original CSRG manpages were written with an empty .Os > call causing the default "BSD" to be displayed. The default has > since been changed to "FreeBSD X.Y". That's fine. But remember "default" originally meant "mistake". We should consider a missing .Os to be a mistake. >>> 2) You are documenting a feature of another operating system. >>> Then you would want to include a ".Os other-os" line. I don't >>> think we have any of these cases right now. >> >> When our manpages are read on another OS, they "are documenting a >> feature of another operating system". You've just proved my point. > > Not when they are read "properly" -- you should be viewing the .cat > version of the manpage. Why? That's your claim, but it doesn't make any sense to me. cat pages are typically made exactly when they *are* used on the same OS as they were intended for. > Just copying some foreign code and compiling it on a given system > may not work at all or not work properly. Similarly for manpages. I thought the stated intent of mdocNG was precisely that they should be portable. This seems to be the only justification for a number of the changes which seem otherwise just plain wrong, such as shifting the names to upper case. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 2:29:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C527E37B403; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 02:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15TgiW-0003TE-00; Mon, 06 Aug 2001 11:30:32 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Greg Lehey Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Aug 2001 18:51:39 +0930." <20010806185139.I69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 11:30:32 +0200 Message-ID: <13343.997090232@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 18:51:39 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > Why? What if I don't have the native OS? Then where did you get the source for the manuals? Come on, Greg, can't you just accept that people simply don't agree with you, and for at least arguably valid reasons? This is getting tiresome, and you're having to present some really unlikely scenarios to prove your point. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 5:45:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D82537B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f76Ce9G06582; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:40:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 05:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108061240.f76Ce9G06582@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murray@osd.bsdi.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/19481: Serial Communications chapter in Handbook is dated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Serial 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Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:40:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108061340.f76DeC768598@freefall.freebsd.org> To: thierry@herbelot.com, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/28915: inconsistency in a man page (versus KERNEL config) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: inconsistency in a man page (versus KERNEL config) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:39:12 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: As Dima pointed out, this return code is for compatibility. Remember software that is ported to other OSes. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=28915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 6:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC6C37B409; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f76DauM43514; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108061336.f76DauM43514@freefall.freebsd.org> To: alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ue@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29215: NIS Section in Handbook should be more detailed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: NIS Section in Handbook should be more detailed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ue Responsible-Changed-By: alex Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:36:27 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: ue did a big overhaul of the NIS parts some time ago http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29215 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 6:45:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B1437B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:45:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f76DZZP37755; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108061335.f76DZZP37755@freefall.freebsd.org> To: greg@perceval.net, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, alex@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25134: Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:34:10 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This is irrelevant in -CURRENT, I'll look at it for the -STABLE branch after the RELEASE. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc-> alex Responsible-Changed-By: alex Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:34:10 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: assign to me as a reminder http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25134 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 6:55:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4AC37B405; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:55:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f76DjW508936; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:45:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108061345.f76DjW508936@freefall.freebsd.org> To: alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26194: BSD Family Tree needs updated Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: BSD Family Tree needs updated Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->wosch Responsible-Changed-By: alex Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:44:12 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: The BSD Family Tree is wosch's baby. Big changes like adding a new subtree should be done by him. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26194 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 9: 5:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow034o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AFE37B403 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx.my.domain ([62.31.194.122]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:05:36 +0100 From: John Murphy To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Usage of BOLD in the Handbook Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 17:07:08 +0100 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the Handbook, should all occurrences of a program name (eg. Sendmail) be in a bold typeface? What about (say) scp? Thanks John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 9:49: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCB837B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F17873E32; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88FA3C12B; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) To: alex@FreeBSD.org Cc: greg@perceval.net, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25134: Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete In-Reply-To: <200108061335.f76DZZP37755@freefall.freebsd.org>; from alex@FreeBSD.org on "Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:35:35 -0700 (PDT)" Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 09:48:50 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010806164855.F17873E32@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org writes: > Synopsis: Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete > > State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed > State-Changed-By: alex > State-Changed-When: Mon Aug 6 06:34:10 PDT 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > This is irrelevant in -CURRENT, I'll look at it > for the -STABLE branch after the RELEASE. Sorry, you're already a little more than three months late if you do it today, even more if you wait until the freeze is over: ---------------------------- revision 1.749.2.51 date: 2001/05/04 05:26:59; author: dd; state: Exp; lines: +4 -4 Don't list all the ports that need ``options USER_LDT'' in the comment. If there does need to be a list, this certainly isn't the place for it. Reviewed by: nik ---------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 10: 7:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cartman.geekhouse.net (valve.dub.net [64.81.252.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DB737B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by cartman.geekhouse.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADD5531FD; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:07:36 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: John Murphy Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Usage of BOLD in the Handbook Message-ID: <20010806100736.A62816@cartman.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 at 17:07:08 +0100, John Murphy wrote: > In the Handbook, should all occurrences of a program name (eg. Sendmail) > be in a bold typeface? What about (say) scp? They are bold because they are applications and stuck between tags :-) The stylesheets render anything in tags as bold-face. Take a look through the documentation project primer -- it should help explain a few things about how stuff looks and why it looks like it does... http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/ - jim -- - jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. - - http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 10:16:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB8937B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from icarus.kfu.com (root@cust-P5-R11-235.POOL.ESR.SJO.wwc.com [206.112.122.235]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f76HGXt47126 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (nospam@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by icarus.kfu.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f76HGSD03703 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B6ED0EC.6030407@quack.kfu.com> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:16:28 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010804 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Need man page fixup help -- apmd.8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I think the new battery state monitoring directives in apmd.conf imply some rather sweeping changes in the wording of apmd.8. I would like to work with someone to get it looking swank in -current ASAP so we can MFC the functionality at week's end (or so). Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 10:22:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7126D37B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f76HOpm44248; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation of LINT parameters References: <20010727135611.32505.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> <20010805204247.B38939@xor.obsecurity.org> <69d76920qy.769@localhost.localdomain> <20010805225616.A47945@xor.obsecurity.org> From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 06 Aug 2001 10:24:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010805225616.A47945@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: Lines: 43 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kennaway writes: (re "doc@freebsd.org" and FDP) > > Yes it is..that's not just for people who work on the webpages, it's > for people who are documenting parts of FreeBSD in various forms. Sorry; I probably should have lurked longer before spouting off. I now see that the freebsd-doc charter (in "handbook/eresources.html") agrees with you. But "http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html" says the FDP is all about working on the FDP's "Documentation Set" which includes: (quote) The manual pages The Project does not really concern itself with these," The FAQ The Handbook The Tutorials Some of these tutorials are maintained by Project committers, others are not. (/quote) A small change of docproj/index.html should clear things up. Change "There are two ways in which this is undertaken;" to "There are several ways in which this is undertaken, including:" and add something like: 3. Members of the Documentation Project work on other documentation activities including dealing with question on the freebsd-doc mailing list and documentation-related Problem Reports. BTW, I might have tried providing my first page patch, but it seems that "doc-all" isn't quite truthfully named and I don't have the page source. Which leads to another question I'll post under a new Subject if nobody sees this today: How do I determine the names of the available cvsup "collections" (and, if I have to use "cvs", the names of the "trees")? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 11: 0:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6878437B409 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f76I0I965404 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 11:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108061800.f76I0I965404@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/08/07] docs/13020 doc Manpage capitalization o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/08] docs/26451 doc ctype.h defined functions are not accurat o [2001/04/10] docs/26489 doc incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP o [2001/04/18] docs/26692 doc boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in o [2001/04/21] misc/26742 doc misleading information in handbook o [2001/04/25] docs/26861 doc accept(2) manpage documents non-existant o [2001/05/02] docs/27027 doc Update src/share/misc/iso639 o [2001/05/02] docs/27040 doc rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l o [2001/05/08] docs/27209 doc [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u o [2001/05/14] docs/27320 doc excessively vague information in pppoe pa o [2001/05/18] docs/27430 doc Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/05/29] docs/27758 doc ptrace(2) man page outdated o [2001/06/02] docs/27833 doc No man page for locate.rc o [2001/06/02] docs/27843 doc [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/09] docs/28000 doc adding and changing information in vidcon s [2001/06/14] docs/28144 doc no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth o [2001/06/20] docs/28306 doc docbook.css and OBJDIR o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/03] docs/28679 doc Images in handbook/advanced-networking mi o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/13] docs/28949 doc the mknod(8) man page stills refers to bl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/23] docs/29182 doc Handbook needs to be updated to reflect s o [2001/07/25] docs/29216 doc Updated the cvsup addresses for the UK o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP o [2001/08/01] docs/29380 doc setsockopt(IPV6_BINDV6ONLY) not documente o [2001/08/03] docs/29410 doc More about RELENG_4_3 in FAQ o [2001/08/05] docs/29479 doc Messed up SYNOPSIS in some on-line man pa 63 problems total. 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15:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Should PRs be submitted ASAP or after researching fix? From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 06 Aug 2001 15:35:53 -0700 Message-ID: <743d74zuie.d74@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a backlog of my own private "PRs", mostly against man pages and some which some would consider enhancements rather than bugs. I'll, of course, try to avoid submitting PRs injudiciously, but generally considered, should I 1) go ahead and file PRs now and then later (real soon, now :-) investigate fixes for the one's nobody's beaten me to, or 2) ask for some to be assigned to me, or 3) sit on them until I get around to investigating fixes/improvements to be submitted with the PR? Do ya'll really hate to get PRs that are 1) nit-picky (mispells, bad grammer bad punctuation) [sic]; 2) broad ("it's confusing"); 3) want perfection ("it should say how to do ")? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 16:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.lab.nuxi.com (unknown [66.123.5.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3386F37B40D for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:14:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Received: from localhost (chern@localhost) by meow.lab.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f76ND6N81537 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee To: Subject: DocBook Speller Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've written a Tcl script that works with ispell to parse through SGML and spell-check the English. I've gone through most of the chapters building a custom dictionary, but there are still a few I haven't touched. You can grab it at: http://people.freebsd.org/~chern/speller.tar.gz Be sure to look at the README. Once I complete the dictionary, I plan to setup a nightly cron job to let me know who is making those nasty spelling mistakes/typos. Suggestions, Comments? - chern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 17: 4: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054C437B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD17F6ACC1; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807093340.J69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010806185139.I69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> <13343.997090232@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <13343.997090232@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>; from sheldonh@starjuice.net on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 11:30:32AM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 6 August 2001 at 11:30:32 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 18:51:39 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> Why? What if I don't have the native OS? > > Then where did you get the source for the manuals? From a CD. Off the net. Maybe they're old, out of date man pages left behind from an upgrade install. > Come on, Greg, can't you just accept that people simply don't agree > with you, A couple don't. I suspect most don't want to get involved. > and for at least arguably valid reasons? No, I see absolutely no validity in any of the arguments. For no good reason you want to remove important parts of the documentation. > This is getting tiresome, and you're having to present some really > unlikely scenarios to prove your point. These are not unlikely scenarios. They're real life. As I said in an earlier message, I do have man pages for multiple architectures on my network. I'm sure I'm not alone. Your standpoint makes you look like you can't understand that other people may want to do things you don't. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 18:46:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B35A37B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 834F84B658; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 18:53:00 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: scr2eps Message-ID: <20010806185300.F21863@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is "scr2eps" unimplemented, or am I just blind? If it hasn't been written yet then I can spend some cycles on this but if there are any ambitious PostScript gurus out there (Adam Stanislav, I'm looking at you) it would probably become a reality a lot quicker. In the interim I wonder if we should hack the makefiles to go from scr->png->eps? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 6 19:41:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whizkidtech.net (r16.bfm.org [216.127.220.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A426E37B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam@whizkidtech.net) Received: (from adam@localhost) by whizkidtech.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f772erG00307; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:40:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 21:40:12 -0500 From: "G. Adam Stanislav" To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: scr2eps Message-ID: <20010806214012.A289@whizkidtech.net> References: <20010806185300.F21863@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010806185300.F21863@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:53:00PM -0700 Organization: Whiz Kid Technomagic X-Assembly-Language: http://int80h.org/ X-Web-Search: http://phonecowboy.master.com/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD whizkidtech.net 4.3-20010525-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-20010525-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:53:00PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Is "scr2eps" unimplemented, or am I just blind? If it hasn't been >written yet then I can spend some cycles on this but if there are any >ambitious PostScript gurus out there (Adam Stanislav, I'm looking at >you) it would probably become a reality a lot quicker. Well, thanks for calling me a guru. :) Chances are a PostScript guru will be quite reluctant to implement scr2eps. What those of us who love PostScript find most attractive about the language is that it lets us produce *vector* graphics. These can be scaled as large or as small as we want, and always look good. "scr", on the other hand, is about bitmap graphics. While you can always convert vector graphics into bitmap graphics, it is not that simple the other way. You really have two options here. The first option is fairly easy to accomplish: It is possible to use the PostScript language to define a bitmap. Alas, that way the bitmap remains a bitmap and cannot be rescaled (which is the whole point of PostScript). The second option requires a serious mathematical analysis which allows you to find the underlying vector representation of the shape inside the bitmap. This typically requires human intervention: You have to look at the result of such a conversion and decide what parameters to use in the conversion process. Not only is such software non-trivial to write, it is non-trivial to use. If a "scr" file is a screen dump, it is usually quite easy for a human to see the pattern (e.g., here is some text, here some straight line) and write a PostScript program that contains the same text, and whatever lines and such need to be there. It is very hard to do the same in software. Adam -- Press any key to continue, any other key to quit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 0:28:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F87A37B403; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15U1J8-0007OS-00; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:29:42 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Greg Lehey Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930." <20010807093340.J69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:29:41 +0200 Message-ID: <28423.997169381@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > These are not unlikely scenarios. They're real life. As I said in an > earlier message, I do have man pages for multiple architectures on my > network. I'm sure I'm not alone. Your standpoint makes you look like > you can't understand that other people may want to do things you > don't. So, like... what's your solution, specifically? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 0:33:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779EB37B403; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:33:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 125A16ACDC; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:03:43 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010807093340.J69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> <28423.997169381@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <28423.997169381@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>; from sheldonh@starjuice.net on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 09:29:41AM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 9:29:41 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> These are not unlikely scenarios. They're real life. As I said in an >> earlier message, I do have man pages for multiple architectures on my >> network. I'm sure I'm not alone. Your standpoint makes you look like >> you can't understand that other people may want to do things you >> don't. > > So, like... what's your solution, specifically? As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 0:51:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B164537B405; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15U1fb-0007Zy-00; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:52:55 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Greg Lehey Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930." <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:52:55 +0200 Message-ID: <29137.997170775@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. I don't agree on .Dd, which shouldn't bump for cosmetic changes. However, I can't see how your idea of populating .Os at install time could hurt. Until the work to implement your idea is done, argument-less .Os macros are the most sensible solution, since they work to some degree now and will require no changes later when your idea is implemented. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 0:54:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6C437B403; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 00:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580BE6ACDE; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:24:30 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:24:30 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807172430.M1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <29137.997170775@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <29137.997170775@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za>; from sheldonh@starjuice.net on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 09:52:55AM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 9:52:55 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. > > I don't agree on .Dd, which shouldn't bump for cosmetic changes. We can discuss that matter. > However, I can't see how your idea of populating .Os at install time > could hurt. > > Until the work to implement your idea is done, argument-less .Os macros > are the most sensible solution, since they work to some degree now and > will require no changes later when your idea is implemented. I don't see any reason to make any change at the moment. My main objection was to removing the .Os macros. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1: 8:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7575C37B409; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15U1vq-0007fj-00; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:09:42 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Greg Lehey Cc: John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:24:30 +0930." <20010807172430.M1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:09:42 +0200 Message-ID: <29494.997171782@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:24:30 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > I don't see any reason to make any change at the moment. My main > objection was to removing the .Os macros. Cool. So for now, we're agreed that the empty .Os macros should stay. Once I'm finished with the sysctl documentation, I'll take a look at how to implement your "version-stamp on install" idea. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:12: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6770037B401; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:11:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f778Btl01496; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:11:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f778Bt112605; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:11:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108070811.f778Bt112605@harmony.village.org> To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Cc: Sheldon Hearn , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930." <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010807093340.J69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> <28423.997169381@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:11:55 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: : On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 9:29:41 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: : > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: : > : >> These are not unlikely scenarios. They're real life. As I said in an : >> earlier message, I do have man pages for multiple architectures on my : >> network. I'm sure I'm not alone. Your standpoint makes you look like : >> you can't understand that other people may want to do things you : >> don't. : > : > So, like... what's your solution, specifically? : : As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. How is that different than just copying the mandoc macros that were used to build the man pages from the {cd, network, wherever} you got the man page sources from? Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:19:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19B637B403; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15U26U-0007kD-00; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:20:42 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Warner Losh Cc: Greg Lehey , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:11:55 CST." <200108070811.f778Bt112605@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:11:55 CST, Warner Losh wrote: > : As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. > > How is that different than just copying the mandoc macros that were > used to build the man pages from the {cd, network, wherever} you got > the man page sources from? Um, Warner, the point is that right now, if Greg copies an installed _source_ manual page from a FreeBSD system, he gets an empty Os macro: .Os If we do as he suggests, he'll get a populated Os macro: .Os FreeBSD 4.5 > Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. Why? It's just a little Makefile magic. We don't actually add the macro, just an argument, and only in the case where there are no arguments, e.g. s/^\.Os$/.Os FreeBSD 4.5/g Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:29:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0B937B401; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:29:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f778TJl01540; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:29:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f778TI113023; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:29:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108070829.f778TI113023@harmony.village.org> To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:20:42 +0200." <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> References: <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:29:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sheldon Hearn writes: : > : As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. : > : > How is that different than just copying the mandoc macros that were : > used to build the man pages from the {cd, network, wherever} you got : > the man page sources from? : : Um, Warner, the point is that right now, if Greg copies an installed : _source_ manual page from a FreeBSD system, he gets an empty Os macro: : : .Os : : If we do as he suggests, he'll get a populated Os macro: : : .Os FreeBSD 4.5 I understand that. My point is why not pull the macros used to create the man pages from the same place you pulled the man pages. Eg, snag /usr/share/tmac at the same time you snagged the man page and setenv GROFF_TMAC_PATH to be where you stashed it. I don't see how this is different than grabbing old Makefiles and having them produce different results on new machine or machines with different kinds of make... : > Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. : : Why? It's just a little Makefile magic. We don't actually add the : macro, just an argument, and only in the case where there are no : arguments, e.g. : : s/^\.Os$/.Os FreeBSD 4.5/g Because it is another target? You'd have foo.5 which would somehow get generated from foo.5 which seems gross to me from a make point of view. I guess I don't see how that's transparently done in the build process. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:34:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369C737B401; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ED916ACDC; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:04:16 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:04:16 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Warner Losh Cc: Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <200108070829.f778TI113023@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108070829.f778TI113023@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 02:29:18AM -0600 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 2:29:18 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sheldon Hearn writes: >>>> As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. >>> >>> How is that different than just copying the mandoc macros that were >>> used to build the man pages from the {cd, network, wherever} you got >>> the man page sources from? >> >> Um, Warner, the point is that right now, if Greg copies an installed >> _source_ manual page from a FreeBSD system, he gets an empty Os macro: >> >> .Os >> >> If we do as he suggests, he'll get a populated Os macro: >> >> .Os FreeBSD 4.5 > > I understand that. My point is why not pull the macros used to create > the man pages from the same place you pulled the man pages. Eg, snag > /usr/share/tmac at the same time you snagged the man page and setenv > GROFF_TMAC_PATH to be where you stashed it. I don't see how this is > different than grabbing old Makefiles and having them produce > different results on new machine or machines with different kinds of > make... It's not the way man(1) works. It takes the macros from the same place for all man pages. >>> Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. >> >> Why? It's just a little Makefile magic. We don't actually add the >> macro, just an argument, and only in the case where there are no >> arguments, e.g. >> >> s/^\.Os$/.Os FreeBSD 4.5/g > > Because it is another target? You'd have foo.5 which would somehow > get generated from foo.5 which seems gross to me from a make point of > view. I guess I don't see how that's transparently done in the build > process. Well, no, just put it into the man page install target. Currently the pages get gzipped into /usr/share/man; this would just add a sed pipe. All we need is to change the man page install target; a SMOP. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:43:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A4C37B40A; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f778gvl01581; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:42:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f778gv113135; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 02:42:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200108070842.f778gv113135@harmony.village.org> To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Cc: Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 18:04:16 +0930." <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <200108070829.f778TI113023@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 02:42:57 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: : > I understand that. My point is why not pull the macros used to create : > the man pages from the same place you pulled the man pages. Eg, snag : > /usr/share/tmac at the same time you snagged the man page and setenv : > GROFF_TMAC_PATH to be where you stashed it. I don't see how this is : > different than grabbing old Makefiles and having them produce : > different results on new machine or machines with different kinds of : > make... : : It's not the way man(1) works. It takes the macros from the same : place for all man pages. I just tried it and it is the way that man works. Oh, wait, I just tried what I always use to format foreign man pages, which was groff -mandoc foo.1, which does work with this environment variable. : >>> Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. : >> : >> Why? It's just a little Makefile magic. We don't actually add the : >> macro, just an argument, and only in the case where there are no : >> arguments, e.g. : >> : >> s/^\.Os$/.Os FreeBSD 4.5/g : > : > Because it is another target? You'd have foo.5 which would somehow : > get generated from foo.5 which seems gross to me from a make point of : > view. I guess I don't see how that's transparently done in the build : > process. : : Well, no, just put it into the man page install target. Currently the : pages get gzipped into /usr/share/man; this would just add a sed pipe. : All we need is to change the man page install target; a SMOP. ok. Whatever. It seems to set a precident that it is OK to munch something on the way to the install and change its contents, which is something we really don't do. compression doesn't really change the contents. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1367D37B403; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f778MnU51963; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:22:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:22:49 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Greg Lehey Cc: Sheldon Hearn , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807112249.A45963@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Greg Lehey , Sheldon Hearn , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <29137.997170775@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010807172430.M1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010807172430.M1565@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:24:30PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:24:30PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 9:52:55 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:03:42 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >> As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. > > > > I don't agree on .Dd, which shouldn't bump for cosmetic changes. > > We can discuss that matter. > > > However, I can't see how your idea of populating .Os at install time > > could hurt. > > > > Until the work to implement your idea is done, argument-less .Os macros > > are the most sensible solution, since they work to some degree now and > > will require no changes later when your idea is implemented. > > I don't see any reason to make any change at the moment. My main > objection was to removing the .Os macros. > Again, I did NOT remove the .Os macro(s), I cleaned up the manpages that had obsolete information in their arguments to the .Os call. I.e., where the manual page had ``.Os BSD 4.2'', it now has an empty .Os call, which becomes ``FreeBSD X.Y'', as defined in the FreeBSD mdoc(7) setup file, src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac/mdoc.local. To see the FreeBSD manual page using its source on a different OS, you will need the following: 1. Groff version 1.17.1 or later, which includes the "compatible" mdoc(7) macro package. 2. FreeBSD-specific mdoc.local file that is compatible with this manpage (obtained from the same source as the manpage), that does the FreeBSD specific mdoc(7) package setup. You should then put this file to the tmac/ directory, and rename it to doc-FreeBSD.tmac. Then you can browse the FreeBSD manpage on a non-FreeBSD OS, using the following command: $ nroff -mdoc -mdoc-FreeBSD This should give you exactly the same output as you would get on a FreeBSD box this manpage was developed for. You can emulate this scenario by renaming the stock mdoc.local file to mdoc-FreeBSD.tmac, and creating the empty mdoc.local file as follows: # cd /usr/share/tmac # mv mdoc.local doc-FreeBSD.tmac # touch mdoc.local Then try to browse the manpage using the following commands: $ nroff -mdoc $ nroff -mdoc -mdoc-FreeBSD Note the difference. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 1:56:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE74337B401; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f778VB252962; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:31:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 11:31:11 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Warner Losh Cc: Greg Lehey , Sheldon Hearn , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Which OS does a man page come from? (was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807113111.B45963@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Greg Lehey , Sheldon Hearn , John Baldwin , Mike Pritchard , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010807093340.J69153@wantadilla.lemis.com> <28423.997169381@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200108070811.f778Bt112605@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108070811.f778Bt112605@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 02:11:55AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 02:11:55AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20010807170342.J1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: > : On Tuesday, 7 August 2001 at 9:29:41 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > : > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:33:40 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > : > > : >> These are not unlikely scenarios. They're real life. As I said in an > : >> earlier message, I do have man pages for multiple architectures on my > : >> network. I'm sure I'm not alone. Your standpoint makes you look like > : >> you can't understand that other people may want to do things you > : >> don't. > : > > : > So, like... what's your solution, specifically? > : > : As I said: we add the .Os and .Dd when installing. > > How is that different than just copying the mandoc macros that were > used to build the man pages from the {cd, network, wherever} you got > the man page sources from? > > Adding the .Os and .Dd at install time seems ugly to me. > Exactly my thoughts. The problem is more that just a single .Os macro. Please see the gnu/usr.bin/groff/tmac/mdoc.local file for the details of FreeBSD mdoc(7) customization. This file supplements the stock mdoc(7) package, and is *needed* when viewing a FreeBSD manpage. It defines: 1. Customized .Sh header names. 2. Modified and new .Lb library names. 3. Default operating system (.Os without arguments). tmac/mdoc/koi8-r contains a more complicated example of what could be customized. See my other posting in this thread for more details and a real example. 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(was: cvs commit: src/bi Message-ID: <20010807060552.A92283@dragon.nuxi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Greg Lehey , Warner Losh , Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org References: <29772.997172442@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <200108070829.f778TI113023@harmony.village.org> <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010807180416.N1565@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:04:16PM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 06:04:16PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > Well, no, just put it into the man page install target. No. _build(all)_ target. > Currently the pages get gzipped into /usr/share/man; This happens at build time, not install time. > this would just add a sed pipe. Agreed. You would either tweak `MCOMPRESS_CMD' in bsd.man.mk, or hijack `MANFILTER'. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 8:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3BA37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Fe2977496; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7FA37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:34:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77FakV48478; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 08:36:45 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29500: Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and "disk" keywords. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29500 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and "disk" keywords. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 08:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and "disk" keywords in the backups chapter. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backups < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Mon Aug 6 21:38:35 2001 --- chapter.sgml Mon Aug 6 21:47:34 2001 *************** *** 582,596 **** config kernel root on da0 swap on da0 and da1 dumps on da0 ! controller isa0 ! controller pci0 ! controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr ! disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 ! controller ncr0 ! controller scbus0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr --- 582,596 ---- config kernel root on da0 swap on da0 and da1 dumps on da0 ! device isa0 ! device pci0 ! device fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr ! device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 ! device ncr0 ! device scbus0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 9:10:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE7137B416 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77GA1C95100; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A600A37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:04:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77G6vR48487; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: <4fwv4fx3a6.v4f@localhost.localdomain> Date: 07 Aug 2001 09:06:57 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29502: Handbook has wrong expansion of "GPL" initialism. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29502 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook has wrong expansion of "GPL" initialism. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 09:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: Handbook has erroneous "GNU Public License". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/contrib < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Sun Aug 5 13:56:34 2001 --- chapter.sgml Mon Aug 6 21:18:35 2001 *************** *** 315,321 **** GPLGNU General Public License GNU General Public License ! The GNU Public License, or GPL. This license is not quite as popular with us due to the amount of extra effort demanded of anyone using the code for commercial purposes, but given the sheer quantity of GPL'd code we currently require --- 315,321 ---- GPLGNU General Public License GNU General Public License ! The GNU General Public License, or GPL. This license is not quite as popular with us due to the amount of extra effort demanded of anyone using the code for commercial purposes, but given the sheer quantity of GPL'd code we currently require >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 9:10:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC03837B413 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77GA1G95091; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B0E37B40C for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:02:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77G4t948484; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 09:04:54 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29501: Handbook misuses "copyright" for "trademark". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29501 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook misuses "copyright" for "trademark". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 09:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: Handbook misuses "copyright" for "trademark" and surrounding text could be improved a bit. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Mon Aug 6 22:18:17 2001 --- chapter.sgml Mon Aug 6 22:31:27 2001 *************** *** 1507,1514 **** NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc) support NIS. yellow pagesNIS ! NIS was formerly known as Yellow Pages (or yp), but due to ! copyright violations, Sun was forced to change the name. NIS --- 1507,1515 ---- NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc) support NIS. yellow pagesNIS ! NIS was formerly named Yellow Pages, but because of ! trademark issues, Sun changed the name. The old term (and ! "yp") is still often seen and used. NIS >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 9:13:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270FD37B405; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f775bD020790; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:37:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 06:37:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: scr2eps Message-ID: <20010807063713.K9149@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010806185300.F21863@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010806185300.F21863@windriver.com>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:53:00PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 06:53:00PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > Is "scr2eps" unimplemented, or am I just blind? If it hasn't been > written yet then I can spend some cycles on this but if there are any > ambitious PostScript gurus out there (Adam Stanislav, I'm looking at > you) it would probably become a reality a lot quicker. Probably not worth it. Since these are screen shots and all. . . > In the interim I wonder if we should hack the makefiles to go from > scr->png->eps? doc.images.mk *should* do this already, simply by virtue of there being a rule to conver scr -> png and a rule to convert png -> eps. If it doesn't then it's a bug. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtvfogACgkQk6gHZCw343XzHQCdFL2Bn7SQPjH3mRauk0MUi3yV awAAn00cMbX/7lOnSm+55tLnki2QqsqF =ioGK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6K2R/cS9K4qvcBNq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 9:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from n18.groups.yahoo.com (n18.groups.yahoo.com [216.115.96.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0D7637B41B for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from notify-return-freebsd-doc=freebsd.org@egroups.co.uk) X-eGroups-Return: notify-return-freebsd-doc=freebsd.org@egroups.co.uk Received: from [10.1.10.141] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2001 16:15:31 -0000 Date: 7 Aug 2001 16:15:27 -0000 Message-ID: <997200927.4780.12669.f8@egroups.co.uk> From: freebsd-lists-for-dayan-only Moderator Reply-To: freebsd-lists-for-dayan-only-unsubscribe@egroups.co.uk To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Welcome to the freebsd-lists-for-dayan-only group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've added you to my freebsd-lists-for-dayan-only group at eGroups, a free, easy-to-use email group service. 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Once you have signed in, you should change your password by visiting http://www.egroups.co.uk/myprofile To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 9:40:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1663137B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Ge3f99301; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CA537B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:36:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77GcV448570; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 09:38:31 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29508: Handbook uses "with in" for "within". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29508 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook uses "with in" for "within". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 09:40:02 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: Handbook uses "with in" for "within". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/book/handbook/disks < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 09:25:19 2001 --- chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 09:27:12 2001 *************** *** 504,510 **** BIOS partition entries. If the disk is going to be truly dedicated to FreeBSD, you can use the dedicated mode. Otherwise, FreeBSD will ! have to live with in one of the PC BIOS partitions. FreeBSD calls the PC BIOS partitions slices so as not to confuse them with traditional BSD partitions. You may also use slices on a disk that is dedicated to FreeBSD, but used --- 504,510 ---- BIOS partition entries. If the disk is going to be truly dedicated to FreeBSD, you can use the dedicated mode. Otherwise, FreeBSD will ! have to live within one of the PC BIOS partitions. FreeBSD calls the PC BIOS partitions slices so as not to confuse them with traditional BSD partitions. You may also use slices on a disk that is dedicated to FreeBSD, but used >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 10: 3:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from inferno.luckyirish.net (cx1198153-b.santab1.ca.home.com [24.177.135.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B452B37B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@inferno.luckyirish.net) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by inferno.luckyirish.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f77H3fT50016 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@inferno.luckyirish.net) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:03:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Dempsey To: Subject: broken links in http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html Message-ID: <20010807100148.T50014-100000@inferno.luckyirish.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mailto links for Dave Zarzycki and Mike Barcroft are broken. thanks! chris dempsey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 10:56: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540C637B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:56:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 4ADFF81D0A; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:55:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:55:57 -0500 From: Alfred Perlstein To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: 'Headlines' on homepage is awesome. Message-ID: <20010807125557.U85642@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whomever added the 'Headlines' section to http://www.freebsd.org/ deserves a pint. :) Really cool work. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] Ok, who wrote this damn function called '??'? And why do my programs keep crashing in it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 13:21:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597DD37B432 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09391; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010807125557.U85642@elvis.mu.org> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: RE: 'Headlines' on homepage is awesome. Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Aug-01 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Whomever added the 'Headlines' section to http://www.freebsd.org/ > deserves a pint. :) > > Really cool work. Nik did it, though I think nbm@ inspired it. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 13:26: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.lab.nuxi.com (meow.lab.nuxi.com [66.123.5.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC5337B40A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Received: from localhost (chern@localhost) by meow.lab.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f77KPFR01353; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee To: Jim Mock Cc: Sheldon Hearn , Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot chapter.sgml doc/en_U In-Reply-To: <20010807004620.A52833@helios.soupnazi.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It might and probably should be operating systems, but this is just one instance, and at the time I was just expanding OSs, which should be OSes or something of the like. In the context used, it reads "Unix OSs." Figuring that Unix is a proper noun, and it is referring to all Unix variants, Unix Operating Systems seems somewhat correct. Perhaps "Unix operating systems" is the way to go, but whatever the capitalization, it's still better than "Unix OSs." - chern On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Jim Mock wrote: > On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 at 09:44:50 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 14:25:28 MST, Chern Lee wrote: > > > > > Log: > > > Spelling Changes: > > > * OSs -> Operating Systems > > > > Why is this done in studly case? An operating system is a common noun > > (well, actually an adjective and a noun). > > I've gotta agree with Sheldon here. There's no real reason to > capitalize it. > > - jim > > -- > jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. > http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 13:51:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BC937B42F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Ko0N41558; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FE337B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77Ki6l49598; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 13:44:02 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29515: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29515 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 13:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "install" chapter refers to "install.bat" and "makeflp.bat" files without saying where they may be found. I suppose they were once on the install CD, but they are not on my 4.3-RELEASE and so I further suppose that they were removed on purpose and the handbook needs updating. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Probably, further research should be done to determine whether the files are SHOULD be on the CD before changing the handbook. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 14:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.seasidesoftware.co.za (axl.seasidesoftware.co.za [196.31.7.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A5C37B69B for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@starjuice.net) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.seasidesoftware.co.za) by axl.seasidesoftware.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1) id 15UEDI-000DiM-00; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:16:32 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Chern Lee Cc: Jim Mock , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/advanced-networking chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot chapter.sgml doc/en_U In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:25:15 MST." Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:16:32 +0200 Message-ID: <52721.997218992@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:25:15 MST, Chern Lee wrote: > Perhaps "Unix operating systems" is the way to go, but whatever the > capitalization, it's still better than "Unix OSs." That what you've changed it to is better than what we had isn't under dispute. :-) I would suggest, though, that if there are more of these, you use "operating systems". Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 14:50:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B4337B40B for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Lo8J52432; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF04237B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77LmMT49931; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:48:21 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29518: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29518 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 14:50:08 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "install" chapter refers to "install.bat" and "makeflp.bat" files without saying where they may be found. I suppose they were once on the install CD, but they are not on my 4.3-RELEASE and so I further suppose that they were removed on purpose and the handbook needs updating. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Probably, further research should be done to determine whether the files are SHOULD be on the CD before changing the handbook. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 14:50:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56E337B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Lo5W52419; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D9637B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:41:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77Li2549925; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 14:43:59 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29517: Handbook missing fast method of cleaning ports. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29517 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook missing fast method of cleaning ports. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 14:50:05 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The handbook gives what it calls the "best" way to clean ports, which, when I tried it, took several hours on fast hardware. The handbook is missing the faster method used by many. ================ >How-To-Repeat: ================ >Fix: Apply the following PR/patch. I've changed "best" to "surest" and added the alternative method and an introductory paragraph. I got the method off comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc and I must admit to having not tested it patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/tbd/tbd/tbd < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 11:01:34 2001 --- ports/chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 11:19:19 2001 *************** *** 1120,1126 **** Yes, if you have installed the program and are fairly certain you will not need the source again, there is no ! point in keeping it hanging around. The best way to do this is: &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports --- 1120,1126 ---- Yes, if you have installed the program and are fairly certain you will not need the source again, there is no ! point in keeping it hanging around. The surest way to do this is: &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports *************** *** 1129,1134 **** --- 1129,1142 ---- which will go through all the ports subdirectories and delete everything except the skeletons for each port. + + A much faster way to do most (if not all) of the same + thing is this: + + &prompt.root; + find /usr/ports -depth -name work -exec rm -rf {} \; + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 14:54:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (kawoserv.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.180.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9BA37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: from zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.181.28]) by kawoserv.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA21968; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:54:45 +0200 Received: by zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 267BF14C6C; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:54:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:54:46 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Dima Dorfman Cc: greg@perceval.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/25134: Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete Message-ID: <20010807235446.A1224@zerogravity.kawo2.rwth-aachen.d> References: <200108061335.f76DZZP37755@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010806164855.F17873E32@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010806164855.F17873E32@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 09:48:50AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Dima Dorfman (dima@unixfreak.org): > > This is irrelevant in -CURRENT, I'll look at it > > for the -STABLE branch after the RELEASE. > Sorry, you're already a little more than three months late if you do > it today, even more if you wait until the freeze is over: This is why I said "I'll look at it..." (I didn't have a -STABLE LINT handy for "cvs log") Thanks for pointing this out. Alex -- WELCOME DATACOMP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 15:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C27437B41F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77MA2w29826; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:10:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:10:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'Headlines' on homepage is awesome. Message-ID: <20010807231002.G23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010807125557.U85642@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yZnyZsPjQYjG7xG7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010807125557.U85642@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:55:57PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --yZnyZsPjQYjG7xG7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:55:57PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Whomever added the 'Headlines' section to http://www.freebsd.org/ > deserves a pint. :) Thanks. I'll collect at BSDCon US in February. And none of that Lebanese stuff Paul was feeding you either, ta. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --yZnyZsPjQYjG7xG7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtwZzYACgkQk6gHZCw343VDRwCdGna1Fq3qXiB/Sre+FlVY9jNJ HuIAnRmpxF3MS5oPkk9X9Me4NaiQA+Pf =NvnB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yZnyZsPjQYjG7xG7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 16:13:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446FF37B41F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reel@sympatico.ca) Received: from [64.230.225.16] by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010807231321.WGJB3759.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@[64.230.225.16]> for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:13:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Felix-Antoine Paradis X-X-Sender: To: Subject: do we have to care about new lines? Message-ID: <20010807191142.S581-100000@uct.cm.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hey, I am fixing up things in the FAQ. I got the book.sgml from the doc source tree and i was wondering if i had to care about something between two / . Thank's, F=E9lix-Antoine Paradis - - felix@unixconsult.org && 1-418-261-0865 && 0xF8CDB69D - - Qu=E9bec, Canada - Unix Consult Technologies - - finger key@uct.cm.nu for public key. - - What are you doing with Linux on a 1.5Ghz? - - FreeBSD: The power to serve; www.FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQCVAwUBO3B2EKdqwFX4zbadAQE88QP/YcNP/rrFvHLP9upjABdscWlFTP4SkcJw vAgXTxO1jXnAipm6Q7WkbS4tCiMo6/+7878mgz+2TVCrFBcjjfEWhrPfx6+3tQ4Z VggI7Kiyj7N/Brh+CEcMe9OYdQzPUs1jl4hPl/0mDnRs4gy4VlOPz5OnyVwEs63I ulEnHJ90ng0=3D =3Dxn3X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 16:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431E537B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Ne2B92574; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9110637B40C for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:30:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f77NWSb50108; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:32:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: <0fk80fv438.80f@localhost.localdomain> Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:32:27 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29522: Handbook: A few changes related to cvsup collections. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29522 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook: A few changes related to cvsup collections. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 16:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: In the "mirrors" chapter: 1) "described here", where "here" is a link, doesn't translate well to ASCII. 2) The description of the "doc-all" collection doesn't warn people that it doesn't include the FreeBSD.org web site. Those who read that the site's files are part of the Documentation Project might not read far to the end of the list to read that "doc-all" doesn't mean all of the FDP's docs. 3) Mention of the "www" collection as "WWW data" is rather nebulous. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d /*/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors < this-PR *** /tmp/chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 14:56:34 2001 --- chapter.sgml Tue Aug 7 15:45:15 2001 *************** *** 1845,1852 **** The files available via CVSup are organized into named groups called collections. The collections that are ! available are described here. In this example, we wish to receive the entire main source tree for the FreeBSD system. There is a single large collection src-all which will give us all of that. --- 1845,1853 ---- The files available via CVSup are organized into named groups called collections. The collections that are ! available are described in a following section. In this ! example, we wish to receive the entire main source tree for the FreeBSD system. There is a single large collection src-all which will give us all of that. *************** *** 2408,2415 **** doc-all release=cvs ! Sources for the FreeBSD handbook and other ! documentation. --- 2409,2417 ---- doc-all release=cvs ! Sources for the FreeBSD handbook and some other ! documentation. It does not include files for the ! FreeBSD WWW site. *************** *** 3082,3088 **** www release=cvs ! The sources for the World Wide Web data. --- 3084,3090 ---- www release=cvs ! The sources for the FreeBSD WWW site. *************** *** 3119,3126 **** www release=current ! The installed World Wide Web data. Used by WWW mirror ! sites. --- 3121,3128 ---- www release=current ! The pre-processed FreeBSD WWW site files (not the ! source files). Used by WWW mirror sites. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 16:50: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E50537B40A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77No1F93537; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108072350.f77No1F93537@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: docs/29518: Please cancel duplicate PR Reply-To: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29518; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: docs/29518: Please cancel duplicate PR Date: 07 Aug 2001 16:47:41 -0700 docs/29518 is identical to docs/29515. I can't imagine how I did it (more than an hour apart). Oh, well. Please let me know if I didn't get this followup thing correct on this my first try. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 16:54:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45FB137B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 2A8B04B658; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:00:37 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: rethinking man page references in the Handbook Message-ID: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think there are two problems with the way we currently refer to man pages in the FreeBSD Handbook. First of all, there is no consistency to how we refer the user to a man page for more information : 1) Please see sio(4). 2) For more information see sio(4). 3) For more information see the sio(4) man page. 4) For more information see the man page sio(4). 5) For more information see the sio(4) manual page. It wouldn't be too much work to pick one of these and standardize on it throughout the Handbook. #1 definitely doesn't work for the printed output, so those need to be changed anyway. Do we want to add a standard section to the back of each chapter that lists the relevant man pages that contain more information? Or should we continue to add these in an ad-hoc fashion throughout most of the book (with at least a little more standardization). The second problem is that we simply use &man.cmd.sec; entities too often. There are many paragraphs that contain the same man entity 4-5 times which is very distracting. These entities are very useful but I think that we should only use them them the first time that a command is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in for future references in that paragraph and following ones. Thoughts? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 17: 5:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B138337B405; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f77Nvii95240; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:57:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108072357.f77Nvii95240@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, brooks@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29518: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook references missing *.bat install files. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brooks State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 7 16:56:56 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Submitter requests closure (duplicate of docs/29515). http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29518 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 17: 5:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (wrath.dub.net [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E3937B413 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 44D85326A; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:05:20 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Felix-Antoine Paradis Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: do we have to care about new lines? Message-ID: <20010807170520.A47580@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20010807191142.S581-100000@uct.cm.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010807191142.S581-100000@uct.cm.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 at 19:13:08 -0400, Felix-Antoine Paradis wrote: > Hey, > > I am fixing up things in the FAQ. I got the book.sgml from the doc > source tree and i was wondering if i had to care about something > between two / . For example? - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 17:42:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691C037B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9A9E13E31; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0033C12D; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:42:38 -0700 (PDT) To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook In-Reply-To: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com>; from murray.stokely@windriver.com on "Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:00:37 -0700" Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:42:33 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010808004238.9A9E13E31@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely writes: > I think there are two problems with the way we currently refer to > man pages in the FreeBSD Handbook. First of all, there is no > consistency to how we refer the user to a man page for more > information : > > 1) Please see sio(4). > 2) For more information see sio(4). > 3) For more information see the sio(4) man page. > 4) For more information see the man page sio(4). > 5) For more information see the sio(4) manual page. I'd prefer to see them called "manual pages" over "man pages"; the latter may not be very clear to some people, since "man" is a common word by itself, and not everybody can immediately make the man->manual connection. > The second problem is that we simply use &man.cmd.sec; entities too > often. There are many paragraphs that contain the same man entity 4-5 > times which is very distracting. These entities are very useful but I > think that we should only use them them the first time that a command > is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in > for future references in that paragraph and following ones. Nobody has ever defined when one should use a manual page entity, and when one should use . I've seen this asked on the list before, and the answer is generally "whichever you want". What you suggest sounds pretty good. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 18:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD7F37B410 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horikawa@psinet.com) Received: from [205.164.249.223] (helo=localhost) by smtp1.interramp.com with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for doc@freebsd.org id 15UILX-0003Ek-00; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:41:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010807.214010.41172791.horikawa@psinet.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: export control description of telnet(1) From: Kazuo Horikawa X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I would like to know whether the export control description of TELNET ENCRYPT is still correct. In telnet(1), there are following descriptions: : Note: Because of export controls, the TELNET ENCRYPT option : is not supported outside of the United States and Canada. If this description is not appropriate now, how about applying attached patches? Thanks, -- Kazuo Horikawa Index: telnet.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/telnet/telnet.1,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 telnet.1 --- telnet.1 2001/07/15 08:01:36 1.24 +++ telnet.1 2001/08/08 01:02:50 @@ -208,9 +208,7 @@ .Ux domain sockets, accessed with a file path). .It Fl x -Turns on encryption of the data stream if possible. This -option is not available outside of the United States and -Canada. +Turns on encryption of the data stream if possible. .It Ar host Indicates the official name, an alias, or the Internet address of a remote host. @@ -374,10 +372,6 @@ .Dv TELNET ENCRYPT option. .Pp -Note: Because of export controls, the -.Dv TELNET ENCRYPT -option is not supported outside of the United States and Canada. -.Pp Valid arguments for the .Ic encrypt command are: @@ -1169,10 +1163,6 @@ (autodecrypt) command states that encryption of the output (input) stream should be enabled as soon as possible. -.Pp -Note: Because of export controls, the -.Dv TELNET ENCRYPT -option is not supported outside the United States and Canada. .It Ic autologin If the remote side supports the .Dv TELNET AUTHENTICATION @@ -1361,8 +1351,6 @@ prints out a message each time encryption is enabled or disabled. The initial value for this toggle is .Dv FALSE . -Note: Because of export controls, data encryption -is not supported outside of the United States and Canada. .It Ic ?\& Displays the legal .Ic toggle Index: telnet.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/crypto/telnet/telnet/telnet.1,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 telnet.1 --- telnet.1 2001/07/10 10:35:52 1.14 +++ telnet.1 2001/08/08 01:05:09 @@ -376,10 +376,6 @@ .Dv TELNET ENCRYPT option. .Pp -Note: Because of export controls, the -.Dv TELNET ENCRYPT -option is not supported outside of the United States and Canada. -.Pp Valid arguments for the .Ic encrypt command are: @@ -1171,10 +1167,6 @@ (autodecrypt) command states that encryption of the output (input) stream should be enabled as soon as possible. -.Pp -Note: Because of export controls, the -.Dv TELNET ENCRYPT -option is not supported outside the United States and Canada. .It Ic autologin If the remote side supports the .Dv TELNET AUTHENTICATION @@ -1363,8 +1355,6 @@ prints out a message each time encryption is enabled or disabled. The initial value for this toggle is .Dv FALSE . -Note: Because of export controls, data encryption -is not supported outside of the United States and Canada. .It Ic ?\& Displays the legal .Ic toggle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 18:43: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.interramp.com (smtp1.interramp.com [38.8.45.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8816437B417 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horikawa@psinet.com) Received: from [205.164.249.223] (helo=localhost) by smtp1.interramp.com with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for doc@freebsd.org id 15UINA-0003F2-00; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:43:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010807.214149.108763634.horikawa@psinet.com> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: "first appeared" description in HISTORY of manual pages From: Kazuo Horikawa X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi again, Shall "first appeared" descriptions in HISTORY section write about -RELEASE, instead of -STABLE? My understanding is YES. I could find an example, growfs(8) which says: : HISTORY : The growfs command first appeared in FreeBSD 4.4. On the other hand, tuning(7) says: : HISTORY : The tuning manual page was originally written by Matthew Dillon and first : appeared in FreeBSD 4.3, May 2001. Actually, 4.3-RELEASE was published in April and 4.3-RELEASE did not include tuning(7). I can understand that this sentence wanted to say that tuning(7) was checked-in to 4.3-STABLE on May 2001. But, I think this sentence is misleading, unless 4.3-RELEASE is done before May 2001. So, how about just replacing "FreeBSD 4.3, May 2001" with "FreeBSD 4.4"? Thanks, -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 19: 2:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F00437B418 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7824q757479; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook References: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 07 Aug 2001 19:04:50 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> Message-ID: <5bn15btigt.15b@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely writes: > 1) Please see sio(4). > 2) For more information see sio(4). > 3) For more information see the sio(4) man page. > 4) For more information see the man page sio(4). > 5) For more information see the sio(4) manual page. > > It wouldn't be too much work to pick one of these and standardize on > it throughout the Handbook. #1 definitely doesn't work for the > printed output, so those need to be changed anyway. See Chapter 10 of /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.html It calls for either "See man csh for more information." with "man csh" using unnamed typewriter-looking tag, or "See csh(1)" using , with the latter (the one that "doesn't work for the printed ouput") being the "preferred" choice. "See man csh" doesn't work for things like "See man shutdown" which gives you shutdown(2) instead of the expected shutdown(8). The meaning of "See man(#)" is such a common thing in Unix and would be common in the handbook, that it would be a shame to have to use all that "for more information see the xxx manual page" verbage all over the place for the sake of very newbies that haven't bothered to read (and remember, of course) the intro section where "see man(1)" is explained. They'd catch on soon enough anyway. As for "man" versus "manual", I think the same thing holds. The short term is such an entrenched part of Unix jargon that it's not worth while trying to stamp it out. Maybe a (short-as-possibe) Handbook Jargon section would be useful, but I fear it would grow into a huge Hacker's Dictionary. ... > is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in ... > Thoughts? I hope you don't mind my rudeness, but I'd like to see the handbook avoid hacker tendency to use nouns like markup, setup, lookup, shutdown, as verbs. I see a lot of them, but I plan to not write PRs on them (though I might slip a few changes of them into other PRs). Or is my dictionary too old? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 19:11:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B1B37B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f781owv31680; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:50:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 02:50:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook Message-ID: <20010808025057.I23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ev7mvGV+3JQuI2Eo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com>; from murray.stokely@windriver.com on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:00:37PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ev7mvGV+3JQuI2Eo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:00:37PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > 1) Please see sio(4). > 2) For more information see sio(4). > 3) For more information see the sio(4) man page. > 4) For more information see the man page sio(4). > 5) For more information see the sio(4) manual page. >=20 > It wouldn't be too much work to pick one of these and standardize on > it throughout the Handbook. #1 definitely doesn't work for the > printed output, so those need to be changed anyway. Put me down as preferring #2. > Do we want to add a standard section to the back of each chapter > that lists the relevant man pages that contain more information? Or > should we continue to add these in an ad-hoc fashion throughout most > of the book (with at least a little more standardization). It should be possible to auto-generate this using a bit of DSSSL. > The second problem is that we simply use &man.cmd.sec; entities too > often. There are many paragraphs that contain the same man entity 4-5 > times which is very distracting. These entities are very useful but I > think that we should only use them them the first time that a command > is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in > for future references in that paragraph and following ones. What do you find distracting? The number of links that are generated in the HTML output, or the proliferation of parentheses? If it's the former then that's some DSSSL that checks to see whether there's been any other elements to the same man page in the outermost enclosing element (probably up to the level) and omits the link if there have been. If it's the latter then it's a probably a style issue. Can you nominate a sample paragraph that you think goes over the top? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ev7mvGV+3JQuI2Eo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtwmwAACgkQk6gHZCw343UTGACfXEnn2otHg/X1vP6KeuJe7cTr z4AAn1rk5Tqc2+1PGG4adk9C/I7rZOo8 =ZAHV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ev7mvGV+3JQuI2Eo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 20:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9793237B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f783e1E25507; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89CD837B40D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f783YgV57570; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:34:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:34:41 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29525: hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descriptions of tmp dirs. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29525 >Category: docs >Synopsis: hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descriptions of tmp dirs. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 20:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The descriptions in hier(7) of /tmp and /var/tmp may lead users to make inefficient or dangerous-to-their-data usage of the directories. The descriptions state policies of tmp file deletion that are not in effect on many systems which don't bother to make a custom hier(7). ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Change the descriptions to say, in essence, that file deletion is at the system administrators' discretion/policy in both directories. It would probably be prudent to vet the changes with well-experienced SAs; I'm just an experienced user and home SA. patch -d "some man/man1" < this-PR *** /tmp/old-hier.7 Tue Aug 7 19:20:19 2001 --- hier.7 Tue Aug 7 19:51:36 2001 *************** *** 139,145 **** .It Pa /stand/ programs used in a standalone environment .It Pa /tmp/ ! temporary files .It Pa /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications .Pp --- 139,148 ---- .It Pa /stand/ programs used in a standalone environment .It Pa /tmp/ ! temporary files; system administrators have differing policies about what ! temporary means; the traditional theory is that /tmp is emptied at system ! bootup and old or big files are deleted at the SA's discretion, but ! often the bootup-deletion is not done .It Pa /usr/ contains the majority of user utilities and applications .Pp *************** *** 718,724 **** .El .Pp .It Pa tmp/ ! temporary files that are kept between system reboots .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Pa vi.recover/ the directory where recovery files are stored --- 721,730 ---- .El .Pp .It Pa tmp/ ! temporary files; system administrators have differing policies about what ! temporary means; the traditional theory is that /var/tmp is emptied only at ! the SA's discretion and not at every system bootup, but it is sometimes ! linked with the /tmp which is sometimes emptied at bootup .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Pa vi.recover/ the directory where recovery files are stored >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 20:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3878E37B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f783o2D26197; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF8537B40A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f783jUS57598; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 20:45:30 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29526: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29526 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 20:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run" in "To run force". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: patch -d "some man/man8" < this-PR *** /tmp/old-dhclient.8 Tue Aug 7 20:39:42 2001 --- /tmp/dhclient.8 Tue Aug 7 20:40:04 2001 *************** *** 144,150 **** .PP Dhclient will normally run in the foreground until it has configured an interface, and then will revert to running in the background. ! To run force dhclient to always run as a foreground process, the .B -d flag should be specified. This is useful when running dhclient under a debugger, or when running it out of inittab on System V systems. --- 144,150 ---- .PP Dhclient will normally run in the foreground until it has configured an interface, and then will revert to running in the background. ! To force dhclient to always run as a foreground process, the .B -d flag should be specified. This is useful when running dhclient under a debugger, or when running it out of inittab on System V systems. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 21:10:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from new.now.nxt.cn (unknown [61.143.52.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8504937B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@now.nxt.cn) Received: (qmail 28055 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2001 13:35:01 -0000 Date: 9 Mar 2001 13:35:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010309133501.28052.qmail@new.now.nxt.cn> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: ¡îÓòÃû×¢²á¿Õ¼äÉêÇë¸÷ËÍÈý¸ö´Î¼¶ÓòÃû»¹Ãâ·ÑÊÔÓÃ! 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Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29531: FreeBSD.org site's PR form doesn't match send-pr program. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29531 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FreeBSD.org site's PR form doesn't match send-pr program. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 21:30:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: For the "Classes" field, the web site's PR form offers "sw-bug doc-bug change-request wish" while "send-pr -P" offers "sw-bug doc-bug change-request update maintainer-update". They probably should agree. I don't know which should be changed. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Unknown. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 22:15:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F35337B40A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF3524D1C; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:15:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56442D1408; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:15:05 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 14:15:03 +0900 Message-ID: <7mg0b3i148.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Chris Dempsey Cc: Subject: Re: broken links in http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html In-Reply-To: <20010807100148.T50014-100000@inferno.luckyirish.net> References: <20010807100148.T50014-100000@inferno.luckyirish.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:03:39 +0000 (UTC), Chris Dempsey wrote: > mailto links for Dave Zarzycki and Mike Barcroft are broken. Fixed. 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Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f785e1t51967; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4DD37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:34:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f785YXv51311; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108080534.f785YXv51311@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:34:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Norio Suzuki To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29532: typo in man for csa(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29532 >Category: docs >Synopsis: typo in man for csa(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 22:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norio Suzuki >Release: 4.3-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: reeBSD snoopy.peanuts.li 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 30 05:14:14 JST 2 001 root@snoopy.peanuts.li:/usr/src/stable-src/obj/usr/src/stable-src/src/sys/SNO OPY i386 >Description: I found miss spell in manual for csa sound driver. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 csa >Fix: --- csa.4.old Wed Aug 8 14:32:44 2001 +++ csa.4 Wed Aug 8 14:32:51 2001 @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ Some onboard CS4610 chips accompany with not CS4297 AC97 codec but CS423x ISA codec. Such the configuration is not -sypported by +supported by .Nm yet. .Sh HISTORY >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 7 23: 0:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726D337B416 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78603W53596; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C16E37B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:55:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f785vMo62370; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Aug 2001 22:57:22 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29534: syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant file for color values. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29534 >Category: docs >Synopsis: syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant file for color values. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 07 23:00:03 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: syscons(4) and sc(4) references non-existant "/usr/include/machine/pc/display.h" file for users to get color values from (for setting driver options in kernel configuration). Tag-along: The man pages are identical and probably waste storage. ================ >How-To-Repeat: ================ >Fix: Apply this PR/patch to the source file. I notice that the two man pages are hard links of each other. I don't know how handle the patching, but this should be close. patch -d "some uncompressed man/man4 dir" < this-PR As for the tag-along (see above), I don't know how to "link" man pages together in the compressed form. ("gnudoit" unsuccessfully attempts to do it with ".so man1/gnuserv.1" and I failed with ".so man4/sc.4.gz".) *** /tmp/old-sc.4 Tue Aug 7 21:52:59 2001 --- sc.4 Tue Aug 7 22:07:30 2001 *************** *** 312,318 **** .It Dv SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR=_attribute_ These options will set the default colors. Available colors are defined in ! .Pa /usr/include/machine/pc/display.h . See .Sx EXAMPLES below. --- 312,319 ---- .It Dv SC_KERNEL_CONS_REV_ATTR=_attribute_ These options will set the default colors. Available colors are defined in ! .Pa /usr/src/sys/arch/include/pc/display.h, ! where "arch" is the platform architecture, e.g., "i386" or "alpha". 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Want to see more: http://www.drawcard.com (If this link is not working please cut and paste the link into your browser) If you have received this mailing in error, or do not wish to receive any further mailings from us, simply click here put in your email address and add Remove to the subject line: http://www.drawcard.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=CompanyInfo Damian Andrews MD Drawcard.com ------=_NextPart_000_07CCfCY.3ZBFBVAG-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 0:50:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F8537B40A; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:290:27ff:fe98:c0b7]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90CC24D2E; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:50:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC50D1407; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:50:54 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:50:51 +0900 Message-ID: <7melqnhtwk.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Murray Stokely Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <200108080642.f786gIu61397@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108080642.f786gIu61397@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 14) (Cuyahoga Valley) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:42:18 -0700 (PDT), Murray Stokely wrote: > Modified files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms chapter.sgml > Log: ... > Revision Changes Path > 1.38 +174 -227 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/chapter.sgml This commit breaks English handbook building. ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -i chap.advanced-networking -i chap.backups -i chap.basics -i chap.bibliography -i chap.config -i chap.boot -i chap.contrib -i chap.cutting-edge -i chap.disks -i chap.eresources -i chap.install -i chap.introduction -i chap.kernelconfig -i chap.kernelopts -i chap.l10n -i chap.linuxemu -i chap.mail -i chap.mirrors -i chap.pgpkeys -i chap.ppp-and-slip -i chap.printing -i chap.security -i chap.serialcomms -i chap.sound -i chap.staff -i chap.users -i chap.x11 -i chap.ports -c /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /pub/tmp/kuriy! ama/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/pub/tmp/kuriyama/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11/chapter.sgml:546:43:X: reference to non-existent ID "TERM-GETTY" /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/html/dblink.dsl:203:1:E: XRef LinkEnd to missing ID 'TERM-GETTY' *** Error code 1 -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 1:31: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (www.freebsd.cz [195.113.19.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA50637B403 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.CZ) Received: from localhost (horcicka@localhost) by dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f788Uxk61976 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:30:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from horcicka@FreeBSD.CZ) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:30:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Horcicka X-X-Sender: To: Subject: New homepage Message-ID: <20010808093650.C61030-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, it is nice to see the homepage changed (after so long time) but I have a few questions: 1. Does the page really validate to HTML 3.2? I did not try it but I see some table with a bgcolor attribute which is not allowed (I think) in 3.2. 2. Would it be possible to shorten the main text column? It is much larger than the left and right column and it contains nothing but advertising info and while looking on professional web sites (www.cisco.com, www.sun.com,...) I think this is not the way homepages are designed today. Maybe, this is the right time to redesign the homepage more deeply. 3. At least 3/4 of information in the Headlines section (and News Flash page) is "New committer...". Is it really so exciting to be on homepage? Maybe the news going to homepage should be a bit filtered and then the Headlines section should not be so big because of very slow growth of messages per month. There would be then no need for the third column - the second column would contain both - headlines and advertising (or other) info. 4. Will be there some "standard" way to create web pages from xml sources in www/share/mk instead of local Makefiles? Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 1:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C3837B401; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f788geT84777; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108080842.f788geT84777@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nosuzuki@postcard.st, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29532: typo in man for csa(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in man for csa(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 01:42:23 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 1:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680A137B40A for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f788o1Z88978; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108080850.f788o1Z88978@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/29534: syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant file for color values. Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29534; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/29534: syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant file for color values. Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:45:52 +0300 On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 10:57:22PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > syscons(4) and sc(4) references non-existant "/usr/include/machine/pc/display.h" > file for users to get color values from (for setting driver options > in kernel configuration). > The actual problem is the missing /usr/include/machine/pc/ in SHARED=copies case. I will try to fix this later. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 3:42:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DC537B403 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 03:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f78AErg35314; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:14:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:14:52 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Martin Horcicka Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New homepage Message-ID: <20010808111452.K23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010808093650.C61030-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010808093650.C61030-100000@dual.ms.mff.cuni.cz>; from horcicka@FreeBSD.CZ on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 10:30:59AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 10:30:59AM +0200, Martin Horcicka wrote: > 1. Does the page really validate to HTML 3.2? I did not try it but I see > some table with a bgcolor attribute which is not allowed (I think) in 3.2. I've changed the doctype to the transitional 4.01 one, which fixes that. > 2. Would it be possible to shorten the main text column? It is much larger > than the left and right column and it contains nothing but advertising in= fo > and while looking on professional web sites (www.cisco.com, www.sun.com,.= ..) > I think this is not the way homepages are designed today. Maybe, this is = the > right time to redesign the homepage more deeply. All replacements gratefully accepted. You don't need to change index.xsl, I'm happy to look at mockups that show peoples ideas of how the website should appear. > 3. At least 3/4 of information in the Headlines section (and News Flash p= age) > is "New committer...". Is it really so exciting to be on homepage? Maybe = the > news going to homepage should be a bit filtered and then the Headlines se= ction > should not be so big because of very slow growth of messages per month. T= here > would be then no need for the third column - the second column would cont= ain > both - headlines and advertising (or other) info. I'm hoping that the increased prominence given to the newsflash items will encourage people to write more of them, now that it's much more likely that visitors to the site will see them. > 4. Will be there some "standard" way to create web pages from xml sources= in > www/share/mk instead of local Makefiles? Yes, but I don't know what it is yet. I expect to use XML/XSL in a few more places on the site, such as the vendors section. When that's done I hope to have a better understanding of what information is common to each transformation, and what needs to be specific to each one. I also want to put in hooks to allow people to use a different XSLT processor if they want to. Again, suggestions and comments gratefully received. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtxERsACgkQk6gHZCw343U3/QCeO2EelShkcng24vN8S/IwGrlM +PkAoJTuBX4KuvCol4gnVSUev6mnRQyd =U3Tp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ogUXNSQj4OI1q3LQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 7: 1:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117F837B40D; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA20770; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010807231002.G23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 07:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: 'Headlines' on homepage is awesome. Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Alfred Perlstein Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Aug-01 Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:55:57PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> Whomever added the 'Headlines' section to http://www.freebsd.org/ >> deserves a pint. :) > > Thanks. I'll collect at BSDCon US in February. > > And none of that Lebanese stuff Paul was feeding you either, ta. s/Lebanese/South African/ And just because zb can't handle it doesn't mean that you can't. :-P *duck* -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 7: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com (curie.sunesi.com [196.25.112.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF79537B40B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 07:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) Received: (qmail 51836 invoked by uid 0); 8 Aug 2001 14:06:23 -0000 Received: from choke.sunesi.net (HELO gerund.futureperfectcorporation.com) (196.25.112.242) by infinitive.futureperfectcorporation.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 14:06:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 26536 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Aug 2001 14:06:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:06:24 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: John Baldwin Cc: Nik Clayton , chat@FreeBSD.org, Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: 'Headlines' on homepage is awesome. Message-ID: <20010808160624.A25477@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20010807231002.G23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 07:01:39AM -0700 Organization: iTouch Labs X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2001-08-08 (07:01), John Baldwin wrote: > > On 07-Aug-01 Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 12:55:57PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >> Whomever added the 'Headlines' section to http://www.freebsd.org/ > >> deserves a pint. :) > > > > Thanks. I'll collect at BSDCon US in February. > > > > And none of that Lebanese stuff Paul was feeding you either, ta. > > s/Lebanese/South African/ > > And just because zb can't handle it doesn't mean that you can't. :-P I would take issue with that, but I won't, since you probably mean beer. ;) Our wine, on the other hand... Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 8: 2:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB5937B40E for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdingman@sentex.net) Received: from sentex.net ([64.230.150.86]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010808150215.JLGV3759.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@sentex.net> for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:02:15 -0400 Message-ID: <3B715526.B4DB0CB2@sentex.net> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:05:10 -0400 From: Robert Dingman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Outdated link to Minnie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear freeBSD: Apparently, your hyperlink from page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources-news.html to Minnie, labelled " Keyword searchable archives", should be updated to http://minnie.tuhs.org Regards, Bob Dingman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 9:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B8037B418 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78Ge1e14573; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936AF37B40D for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78GX4X13865; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:33:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108081633.f78GX4X13865@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Shill To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29547: FreeBSD FAQ typos Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29547 >Category: docs >Synopsis: FreeBSD FAQ typos >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 08 09:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Shill >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: FAQ dated Wed Jul 11 04:01:00 2001 Chapter 2 - Question 11 - Paragraph 2: "we suggest you by a new hard drive." -> "we suggest you _buy_ a new hard drive." Chapter 2 - Question 16 - Paragraph 1: "what manufacturers claim is the “quote” physical geometry" -> Shouldn't there be an “unquote” after "physical geometry"? Or shouldn't "physical geometry" really be between quotation marks? Chapter 2 - Question 25 - Paragraph 1: "The boot blocks think the system is installed on wd1" -> Wasn't wd replaced with ad in 4.0? Shouldn't there be a mention that the problem was solved for 4.0 and higher? Chapter 2 - Question 26 - Paragraph 1: "use 9 chip memory modules vice 18 chip memory modules." -> "vice" ? Were you aiming for "versus" perhaps? Chapter 2 - Question 28 - Paragraph 1: "The maxiumum file size" -> "The _maximum_ file size" Chapter 3 - Question 7 - Paragraph 1: "so the should all look like SCSI disks to FreeBSD" -> "so _they_ (?) should all look like SCSI disks to FreeBSD" Chapter 3 - Question 9 - Paragraph 3: "tell the console driver to use the existence of the USB keyboard." -> "tell the console driver _about_ (?) the existence of the USB keyboard." Chapter 4 - Question 10 - Paragraph 3: "If you next run “make buildworld” again" -> "If you _then_ run “make buildworld” again" Chapter 4 - Question 19 - Paragraph 3: "This situation does not arise in FreeBSD 4.x as has a lot of work has been done to make the it more PnP-centric" -> "This situation does not arise in FreeBSD 4.x as _ a lot of work has been done to make _ it more PnP-centric" remove "has" and "the" Chapter 5 - Question 4 - Paragraph 1: "Xi Graphics and Metro Link sells Accelerated-X product" -> "Xi Graphics and Metro Link _sell_ Accelerated-X product" Chapter 6 - Question 3: The answer doesn't seem relevant to the question but I might be wrong. Chapter 6 - Question 11: "If you want to run some aout applications" -> "If you want to run some _a.out_ applications" "and some aout libs." -> "and some _a.out_ libs." Chapter 8 - Question 21: options SYSVSHM options SYSVSHM # enable shared memory -> Should "options SYSVSHM" appear twice? Chapter 8 - Question 33: "Go into single user mode and than back to multi user mode." -> "Go into single user mode and _then_ back to multi user mode." Chapter 8 - Question 39: "or change the security in /etc/rc.conf then reboot." -> "or change the security _level_ in /etc/rc.conf then reboot." Chapter 10 - Question 23: OK, this one isn't a typo. Isn't dummynet(4) also a bandwidth manager? Chapter 11 - Question 23 - Paragraph 2: "If, as a result of ppps dynamic IP assignment" -> "If, as a result of _ppp's_ dynamic IP assignment" Chapter 13 - Question 1 - Paragraph 2: "when the system is truely idle." -> "when the system is _truly_ idle." Chapter 13 - Question 4 - Paragraph 1: "As people ported unix from this simple system" -> "As people ported _Unix_ from this simple system" "for the early ports of unix" -> "for the early ports of _Unix_" >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 10:30:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACDE37B40B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78HU2U26117; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108081730.f78HU2U26117@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29526: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29526; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: swear@aa.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29526: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 10:19:05 -0700 swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) writes: > > >Number: 29526 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". FreeBSD does not maintain the dhclient(8) manual page. It is imported along with the ISC-DHCP package maintained by ISC (www.isc.org). Please submit your change to them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 10:35:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517FD37B410; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78HVD826265; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:31:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108081731.f78HVD826265@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29502: Handbook has wrong expansion of "GPL" initialism. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook has wrong expansion of "GPL" initialism. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 10:31:06 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29502 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 10:35:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7712337B412; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78HQ3J24768; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108081726.f78HQ3J24768@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29508: Handbook uses "with in" for "within". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook uses "with in" for "within". State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 10:25:21 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks. In the future, please make sure that the text in the From: field on your PR fits this format: Full Name . That will make it easier for whoever is committing your change. Thanks again! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29508 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 10:45:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B027037B40B; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78Hb5Q29029; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108081737.f78Hb5Q29029@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29479: Messed up SYNOPSIS in some on-line man pages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Messed up SYNOPSIS in some on-line man pages Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->wosch Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 10:36:42 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: wosch maintains man.cgi in his personal repository. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29479 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 10:45:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AFD37B401; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78HZxu28237; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:35:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108081735.f78HZxu28237@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29501: Handbook misuses "copyright" for "trademark". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook misuses "copyright" for "trademark". State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 10:35:50 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29501 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 11:19:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meow.lab.nuxi.com (meow.lab.nuxi.com [66.123.5.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1BD37B409 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:19:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Received: from localhost (chern@localhost) by meow.lab.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f78IJ4v21698 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Chern Lee To: Subject: port tag Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Was there ever a conclusion reached on the discussion about the tag? I grep'd through the handbook and found the remaining instances of and referring to ports and have changed them to use . Check out the patch at: http://people.freebsd.org/~chern/ports.diff Comments? Shall I commit this? - chern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 11:29:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED4037B406 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 7DD894B658; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:35:29 -0700 From: murray@stokely.org To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20010808113529.F24780@windriver.com> References: <200108080642.f786gIu61397@freefall.freebsd.org> <7melqnhtwk.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qjNfmADvan18RZcF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <7melqnhtwk.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>; from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:50:51PM +0900 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 04:50:51PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > 1.38 +174 -227 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialcomms/c= hapter.sgml >=20 > This commit breaks English handbook building. I'm really sorry about that. I was in a hurry to check in my work and I missed one of the changed files from my local tree. - Murray --qjNfmADvan18RZcF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7cYZvtNcQog5FH30RAmXBAJ4menRnxexHaikyRI6epb65Ro0qFgCffl+N lIHy7oz9bHD1qgIirsVi8w8= =RGvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qjNfmADvan18RZcF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 11:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB89237B419 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78IU3X39670; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3526F37B41A for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f78IV3t63886; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Message-Id: <1aae1aqu8p.e1a@localhost.localdomain> Date: 08 Aug 2001 11:31:02 -0700 From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Reply-To: swear@aa.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29549: at(1) has erroneous statement about /var/at/at.deny Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29549 >Category: docs >Synopsis: at(1) has erroneous statement about /var/at/at.deny >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 08 11:30:03 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The at(1) page erroneously says "An empty /var/at/at.deny means that every user is allowed use these commands." Comment: The observed behavior seems better than the documented behavior so I'm happy seeing the man page changed rather than the program, but one wonders why the comment was ever included. Perhaps the code has broken and with later be fixed, requiring another man page reversion. ================ >How-To-Repeat: Delete/rename /var/at/at.{allow,deny}. As a non-root user, do "touch /var/at/at.deny; atq". Observe usage denial message. ================ >Fix: patch -d "some uncompressed man/man1 dir" < this-PR *** /tmp/old-at.1 Wed Aug 8 10:30:00 2001 --- /tmp/at.1 Wed Aug 8 10:50:09 2001 *************** *** 170,178 **** .Nm Ns . This is the default configuration. .Pp - An empty - .Pa /var/at/at.deny - means that every user is allowed use these commands. .Sh OPTIONS .Bl -tag -width indent .It Fl V --- 170,175 ---- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 11:30:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5104037B403 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 192053E35; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5D33C12D; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:30:32 -0700 (PDT) To: Chern Lee Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port tag In-Reply-To: ; from chern@meow.lab.nuxi.com on "Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT)" Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:30:27 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010808183032.192053E35@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chern Lee writes: > Was there ever a conclusion reached on the discussion about the > tag? Not really. Some people wanted it integerated into , then we started talking about why we're extended DocBook at all, and I don't think anything ever came out of that. Assuming that a ports-specific tag or element is desired at all, I see no harm in committing this. It wouldn't be hard to write a regexp to change -> if the latter is desired. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 11:51:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDD637B401 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:51:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 85B634B658; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:57:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook Message-ID: <20010808115732.K24780@windriver.com> References: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> <5bn15btigt.15b@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8S1fMsFYqgBC+BN/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5bn15btigt.15b@localhost.localdomain>; from swear@aa.net on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:04:50PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8S1fMsFYqgBC+BN/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 07:04:50PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I hope you don't mind my rudeness, but I'd like to see the handbook Not at all. > avoid hacker tendency to use nouns like markup, setup, lookup, shutdown, > as verbs. I see a lot of them, but I plan to not write PRs on them > (though I might slip a few changes of them into other PRs). PRs with diffs would be very much appreciated. - Murray --8S1fMsFYqgBC+BN/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7cYubtNcQog5FH30RAr4FAJ4wZzjOB7WzW4bjnzBIPqPnMmxIVgCgy1/2 CvZRWPGN0Iz1vyzV9lketqk= =ojpL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8S1fMsFYqgBC+BN/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 12: 8:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi [193.166.84.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F84A37B405 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chu@gpi.ru) Received: from gpi.ru (chu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi (8.11.5/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f78J8Du55023; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:08:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from chu@gpi.ru) Message-ID: <3B718E1C.A1DFC8FA@gpi.ru> Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:08:13 +0300 From: Vladimir Tchoukharev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, fi MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" Subject: Re: docs/29517: Handbook missing fast method of cleaning ports. References: <3B711DA8.A067D92A@gpi.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > > > > cd /usr/ports && NOCLEANDEPENDS=yes make clean > > > > Your way is even faster, I guess, but this one is > > along the traditional approach. > > Hmmm. I guess that should be > > cd /usr/ports && /bin/sh NOCLEANDEPENDS=yes make clean > > so csh users can use it. Right. Or else cd /usr/ports && make -DNOCLEANDEPENDS clean > But that NOCLEANDEPENDS isn't even documented in the > /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk header where the other targets and envars are > described. (I'll do a PR on that too.) It is documented in man 7 ports, but I agree it would not hurt to have it explicitly described in bsd.port.mk too. > I like your argument about the traditional approach, but would only like > it enough for normal use(rs) if it was made into a new target, say > clean-partial, clean-fast, or clean-work. Users will be much more > likely to be able to remember the generic "find" approach to deleting > the work directories which they probably already know and should learn > anyway. It's much easier to remember "work" than "NOCLEANDEPENDS". > > But feel free to refer it to the mailing list or whoever handles this > PR. I still don't fully understand how this PR process works. > > BTW, should I consider mail to only me about PRs to be private and > shouldn't be copied to the public lists without permission? You > may repost this. (Maybe I'll put that in my now-empty signature file.) It was just by a mistake, sorry. Best regards, V. Tchoukharev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 12:22:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE76C37B42A for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:22:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reel@sympatico.ca) Received: from HSE-QuebecCity-ppp83317.qc.sympatico.ca ([64.229.243.204]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010808192207.VZMJ27547.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@HSE-QuebecCity-ppp83317.qc.sympatico.ca> for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:22:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:22:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Felix-Antoine Paradis X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Updating doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 Message-ID: <20010808152011.J312-100000@uct.cm.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is just a little mail to tell you that I am revamping doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 to make it look like doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. The documentation in there doesn't reflect the current english documentation so, I started easy with the FAQ. The work is at approx. 25%. This will be my two cents ;> F=E9lix-Antoine Paradis - felix@unixconsult.org && 1-418-261-0865 && 0xF8CDB69D - Qu=E9bec, Canada - Unix Consult Technologies - finger key@uct.cm.nu for public key. - What are you doing with Linux on a 1.5Ghz? - FreeBSD: The power to serve; www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 13:53: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-48.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B7737B403; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8FF6166C4D; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 13:52:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Murray Stokely Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Makefile doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kerneldebug Makefile chapter.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/staff Makefile chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20010808135250.B88555@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200108081923.f78JNub48246@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108081923.f78JNub48246@freefall.freebsd.org>; from murray@FreeBSD.org on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 12:23:56PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 12:23:56PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > murray 2001/08/08 12:23:56 PDT >=20 > Modified files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook Makefile=20 > Removed files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kerneldebug Makefile=20 > chapter.sgml=20 > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/staff Makefile chapter.sgml=20 > Log: > kerneldebug/ was repo-copied to the Developer's Handbook BTW, if you're taking suggestions, I think the kerneldebug chapter in the handbook should be refocussed more on "my system panicked, how can I obtain the information necessary for the developers to determine the problem?". This may already be your intent here. Kris --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7caaiWry0BWjoQKURAvFeAKDLz86gHp4jmEeShvNSSAEn9hO0xwCeN648 dkzk5ryNh5bODsk0fXAeAug= =ZJgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --O5XBE6gyVG5Rl6Rj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 14:11:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from localhost.localdomain (host68.207.55.120.aadsl.com [207.55.120.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7738837B409; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f78LDdN64065; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:13:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@aa.net) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@aa.net using -f To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Thanks to the documentation project References: <20010808180625.A24691@sr.se> From: swear@aa.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 08 Aug 2001 14:13:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20010808180625.A24691@sr.se> Message-ID: Lines: 9 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gunnar Flygt writes: > This has nothing to do with stable, but since this is the only list I > subscribe to, I want to THANK the guys (and girls?) making the > documentation nowadays. It's really great work done! You don't have to be subscribed to (most) freebsd-* lists to post msgs. (I cc'd this over to freebsd-doc.) 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Here it is below. This is just one in a series of man pages about functions from kern_proc.c I am suggesting. Thanks. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: .\" Copyright (c) 2001 Evan Sarmiento. .\" All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man9/pfind.9,v 1.1 2001/07/16 07:04:09 ru Exp $ .\" .Dd August 8, 2001 .Os .Dt PGFIND 9 .Sh NAME .Nm pgfind .Nd locate a process group by pid .Sh SYNOPSIS .In sys/proc.h .Ft "struct pgrp *" .Fn pgfind "pid_t pgid" .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn pgfind takes a .Fa pid as its argument and returns a pointer to the .Vt pgrp structure whose pgid is specified in the argument. .Pp .Sh RETURN VALUES .Nm pgfind returns NULL on failure or a pointer to a .Vt pgrp structure on sucessful completion. .Sh AUTHORS This man page was written by .An Evan Sarmiento Aq kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 15: 4:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sys05.1nettw.net (1nettw.net [207.87.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507FA37B401 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pharmacy@medsworldwide.com) Received: from devm01 ([207.87.68.92]) by sys05.1nettw.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA34998 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:00:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from pharmacy@medsworldwide.com) Message-ID: <000a01c12056$7da97b60$5c4457cf@devm01> From: "Pharmacy" To: Subject: Doc problem ? Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:07:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C12034.F5D6AE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C12034.F5D6AE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, it looks like a typo in the 202.0.75.17 line below. I think the = mask should end in 255 not 240. Jon 6.6 Virtual Hosts ..... The following entries configure the adapter correctly for this = arrangement: ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=3D"inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias1=3D"inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias2=3D"inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias3=3D"inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias4=3D"inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" ifconfig_fxp0_alias5=3D"inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias6=3D"inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" ifconfig_fxp0_alias7=3D"inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C12034.F5D6AE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi, it looks like a typo in the 202.0.75.17 line below.  I think = the=20 mask should end in 255 not 240.

     

    Jon

    6.6 Virtual Hosts

    .....

    The following entries configure the adapter correctly for this=20 arrangement:

         ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet =
    10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=3D"inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias1=3D"inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias2=3D"inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias3=3D"inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias4=3D"inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias5=3D"inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias6=3D"inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255"
         ifconfig_fxp0_alias7=3D"inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255"
    
    ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C12034.F5D6AE40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 16:29:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F61037B40B for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 094FE3E2F; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED42E3C12B; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:28:59 -0700 (PDT) To: "Pharmacy" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Doc problem ? In-Reply-To: <000a01c12056$7da97b60$5c4457cf@devm01>; from pharmacy@medsworldwide.com on "Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:07:17 -0400" Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:28:54 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010808232859.094FE3E2F@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Pharmacy" writes: > Hi, it looks like a typo in the 202.0.75.17 line below. I think the = > mask should end in 255 not 240. No, the document is right. If you'll notice, the mask for the first line also differs from the rest. This is how it should be. And please don't send HTML mail to the list. > > > > Jon > > 6.6 Virtual Hosts > > ..... > > The following entries configure the adapter correctly for this = > arrangement: > > ifconfig_fxp0=3D"inet 10.1.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias0=3D"inet 10.1.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias1=3D"inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias2=3D"inet 10.1.1.4 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias3=3D"inet 10.1.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias4=3D"inet 202.0.75.17 netmask 255.255.255.240" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias5=3D"inet 202.0.75.18 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias6=3D"inet 202.0.75.19 netmask 255.255.255.255" > ifconfig_fxp0_alias7=3D"inet 202.0.75.20 netmask 255.255.255.255" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 16:30:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9172C37B425 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f78NU2v09935; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108082330.f78NU2v09935@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29552; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Evan Sarmiento Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:27:06 -0700 Evan Sarmiento writes: > .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man9/pfind.9,v 1.1 2001/07/16 07:04:09 ru Exp $ This should just be "$FreeBSD$". ... > .Sh DESCRIPTION > .Fn pgfind ... > .Sh RETURN VALUES > .Nm pgfind Why did you use .Nm here? It should be .Fn like above. > returns NULL on failure or a pointer to a returns .Dv NULL on failure or a pointer to a > .Vt pgrp > structure on sucessful completion. > .Sh AUTHORS > This man page was written by > .An Evan Sarmiento Aq kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx . Also, some of the lines have extra whitespace at the end. It shouldn't be there. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 8 16:36: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E806F37B401 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f78LlE440537 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:47:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 22:47:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [flygt@sr.se: Thanks to the documentation project] Message-ID: <20010808224713.A38926@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you not on -stable. . . N ----- Forwarded message from Gunnar Flygt ----- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:06:25 +0200 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Thanks to the documentation project This has nothing to do with stable, but since this is the only list I subscribe to, I want to THANK the guys (and girls?) making the documentation nowadays. It's really great work done! --=20 __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjtxs2EACgkQk6gHZCw343XgcACfWnNm3of5gYsEvO2+IpKoprVl FLwAn06ozgQvTohjlemnuNMlyzxk6L07 =6Wjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 0: 5:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E883537B401; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:05:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f796tTF98124; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 23:55:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108090655.f796tTF98124@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29526: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: dhclient(8) has extraneous word "run". State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 8 23:55:12 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: This man page is externally maintained. Please submit your changes to ISC, the maintainer. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 0:35:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF12637B401; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f797Vmv10678; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108090731.f797Vmv10678@freefall.freebsd.org> To: shill@free.fr, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29547: FreeBSD FAQ typos Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: FreeBSD FAQ typos State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 9 00:30:39 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: I've fixed most of these, thanks! 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Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 1:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AD937B406 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f798e1428857; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EAE37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f798bkA28365; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108090837.f798bkA28365@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 01:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andreas Riedel To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29560: make buildkernel as described in the handbook causes a warning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29560 >Category: docs >Synopsis: make buildkernel as described in the handbook causes a warning >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 01:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andreas Riedel >Release: 4.4-PRERELEASE >Organization: Chemnitz University of Technology >Environment: FreeBSD tmn 4.4-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Aug 9 09:31:47 CEST 2001 root@tmn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TMN i386 >Description: If one does "make buildkernel" as described in the handbook, the warning -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WARNING: KERNEL= setting should be changed to KERNCONF= -------------------------------------------------------------- is printed. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: change # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL to # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL in section 7.3. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 5: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2405D37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79C08Z90448; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747BB37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79BooR87641; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:50:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108091150.f79BooR87641@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Enderle To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29562 >Category: docs >Synopsis: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: wish >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 05:00:07 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Steven Enderle >Release: 4.3-STABLE >Organization: mdn Hübner GmbH >Environment: - >Description: 1) /usr/ is still discribed as "contains the majority of user utilities and applications" i think this will mislead to think about "usr" as a short for "user" Maybe the manpage should (IMHO) more correctly state "usr" as a short for "Unix System Resources". see google-> 'usr "Unix System Resources"' http://www.google.de/search?q=usr+%22Unix+System+Resources%22&hl=de&safe=off 2) it is unclear to me where to store special application data of my servers. in freebsd, it seems to be *scattered* around in the filesystem. --- examples: commonly i would guess to store, as the manpage states, "multi-purpose log, temporary, _transient_, and spool files" in /var. Although there is /usr/ports (which changes often in my point of view), /usr/obj and /usr/src, which seem to be very dynamic also. ok, someone could say its static if you don't cvsup it, but i think it is thought to do so. Not to talk about (some) installed ports (say, apache, samba, postgresql), which all save highly changing data under /usr/local. --- But to get at the point: Where should i save my special application data, such as big samba shares, data of custom applications, etc? Should i put it in /var/myapp, or simply in /myapp? /usr/myapp would also come into question ..... or /home/myapp which i see some- times also. Is there a standart defined? I think thats not as much as a *bug* as a problem between keyboard and chair on my side, but i guess it would be helpfull to some people to state something like 'thats the place where your data fits in' in the hier(7) manpage. I am waiting for your comments Thanks >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 5:40:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0ED37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79CeRq07635; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091240.f79CeRq07635@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29552; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Evan Sarmiento Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:33:17 +0300 On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:53:59PM -0700, Evan Sarmiento wrote: [...] > .Nm pgfind > .Nd locate a process group by pid > `pid' and `pgid' are different things. pgfind() locates a process group by number. I would write this like "by ID", or "by number". > .Sh DESCRIPTION +The > .Fn pgfind +function > takes a > .Fa pid s/pid/pgid > as its argument and returns a pointer to the > .Vt pgrp > structure whose pgid is specified in the argument. s/pgid/.Va pg_id/ > .Pp Gratuitous .Pp. > .Sh RETURN VALUES > .Nm pgfind The .Fn pgfind function > returns NULL on failure or a pointer to a .Dv NULL > .Vt pgrp > structure on sucessful completion. > .Sh AUTHORS > This man page was written by > .An Evan Sarmiento Aq kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx . If you agree with these corrections, I can commit your manpage, and connect it to build in man9/Makefile. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 7:20:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0D037B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79EK1Y35462; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5E537B409 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79EASH34226; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108091410.f79EASH34226@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:10:28 -0700 (PDT) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29566 >Category: docs >Synopsis: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 07:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: 4.x Stable >Organization: none. >Environment: Not Relevant >Description: Fixed some typos, added some commas and a couple of emphasis tags to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml Revision 1.64 The diff should apply against Revision 1.65 as line numbers are the same. (This is my first attempt to send a diff via the web interface to send-pr. Let me know if I must use a different method, thanks.) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: diff for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml (v1.64) It should apply against Revision 1.65 ok. 54,55c54,55 < attack, including attacks that attempt to crash or otherwise make a < system unusable but do not attempt to break root. Security concerns --- > attack, including attacks that attempt to crash, or otherwise make a > system unusable, but do not attempt to break root. Security concerns 95c95 < D.O.S. attacks try to take advantages of bugs in the networking --- > D.O.S. attacks try to take advantage of bugs in the networking 101c101 < spoofed-packet attack, for example, is nearly impossible to stop --- > spoofed-packet attack, for example, is nearly impossible to stop, 128c128 < nothing more than mess with the user's files or crash the machine. --- > nothing more than mess with the user's files, or crash the machine. 148c148 < backdoors. Backdoors provide the attacker with a way to easily --- > backdoors. A backdoor provides the attacker with a way to easily 152c152 < actually be detrimental to your security because it will not --- > actually be detrimental to your security, because it will not 297c297 < sessions which closes an important hole used by many --- > sessions, which closes an important hole used by many 310c310 < you should consider but you should also consider the fact that the --- > you should consider, but you should also consider the fact that the 317,319c317,319 < disable or change the password for a staff account in one place < and have it immediately effect all the machine the staff member < may have an account on. If a staff member's account gets --- > disable or change the password for a staff account in one place, > and have it immediately effect all the machines on which the staff > member may have an account. If a staff member's account gets 366c366 < user sandboxes. A sandbox isn't perfect unless --- > user sandboxes. A sandbox is not perfect, unless 406c406 < The other big potential root hole in a system are the --- > The other big potential root holes in a system are the 417,418c417,418 < sysadmin will restrict suid binaries that only staff should run to < a special group that only staff can access, and get rid of --- > sysadmin will restrict suid binaries, that only staff should run, > to a special group that only staff can access, and get rid of 422c422 < almost as dangerous. If an intruder can break an sgid-kmem binary --- > almost as dangerous. If an intruder can break an sgid-kmem binary, 442c442 < have sufficient control then you may win out and be able to secure --- > have sufficient control, then you may win out and be able to secure 446c446 < more problematic due to the extra administration and technical --- > more problematic, due to the extra administration and technical 488,489c488,489 < use a KLD module to install his own bpf device or other sniffing < device on a running kernel. To avoid these problems you have to --- > use a KLD module to install his own bpf device, or other sniffing > device, on a running kernel. To avoid these problems you have to 519c519 < /usr is probably counterproductive because --- > /usr is probably counterproductive, because 525c525 < of the onion is to slow down the attacker rather than stop him in --- > of the onion is to slow down the attacker, rather than stop him, in 539c539 < allow the limit-access box to ssh to --- > allow the limited-access box to ssh to 546c546 < hub or through several layers of routing, the NFS method may be --- > hub, or through several layers of routing, the NFS method may be 552c552 < Once you give a limit-access box at least read access to the --- > Once you give a limited-access box, at least read access to the 557c557 < boxes at least once a day, and to test control files such as those --- > at least once a day, and to test control files such as those 560c560 < mismatches are found relative to the base md5 information the --- > mismatches are found, relative to the base md5 information the 575c575 < unsecure links, but it's also a lot harder to deal with. --- > unsecure links, but it is also a lot harder to deal with. 584c584 < If you have a huge amount of user disk space it may take too --- > If you have a huge amount of user disk space, it may take too 589c589 < want to look into. You should probably scan them anyway at least --- > want to look into. You should probably scan them anyway, at least 600c600 < Finally, security scripts should process the log files and the --- > Finally, security scripts should process the log files, and the 615,621c615,621 < any number of security features as long as they do not effect < convenience, and can add security features that do effect < convenience with some added thought. Even more importantly, a < security administrator should mix it up a bit – if you use < recommendations such as those given by this document verbatim, you < give away your methodologies to the prospective attacker who also < has access to this document. --- > any number of security features, as long as they do not effect > convenience, and can add security features that > do effect convenience with some added thought. > Even more importantly, a security administrator should mix it up a > bit – if you use recommendations such as those given by this > document verbatim, you give away your methodologies to the > prospective attacker who also has access to this document. 650c650 < to cause the server to eat processes, file descriptors, and memory --- > to cause the server to eat processes, file descriptors, and memory, 653c653 < while it is possible to prevent a machine from going down it is --- > while it is possible to prevent a machine from going down, it is 663c663 < option which tends to work --- > option, which tends to work 666,668c666,668 < MaxDaemonChildren parameter when you start < sendmail high enough to handle your < expected load but no so high that the computer cannot handle that --- > MaxDaemonChildren parameter, when you start > sendmail, high enough to handle your > expected load, but not so high that the computer cannot handle that 676,677c676,678 < MaxDaemonChildren option for that sendmail to < prevent cascade failures. --- > MaxDaemonChildren option for > that sendmail to prevent cascade failures. > 704c705 < services or that you will add a new internal service and forget --- > services, or that you will add a new internal service and forget 706c707 < port range on the firewall to allow permissive-like operation --- > port range on the firewall, to allow permissive-like operation, 709c710 < binding via the various net.inet.ip.portrange --- > binding, via the various net.inet.ip.portrange 714c715 < 65535, then block everything under 4000 off in your firewall --- > 65535, then block off everything under 4000 in your firewall 779c780 < better it may be prudent to manually override both --- > better, it may be prudent to manually override both 782c783 < you want to crash the machine. Setting both --- > you want to crash the machine). Setting both 795c796 < authentication protocol but there are bugs in the kerberized --- > authentication protocol, but there are bugs in the kerberized 810c811 < duration of your login and if a attacker has broken root on the --- > duration of your login, and if an attacker has broken root on the 860c861 < Standard. This is not such a problem for users that live in --- > Standard. This was not such a problem for users resident in 864c865 < variants that still use DES. --- > variants that still used DES. 880c881 < Passwords encrypted with the MD5 hash are longer than those with --- > Passwords encrypted with the MD5 hash are longer than those 899c900 < against libcrypt which for each type of library is a symbolic link --- > against libcrypt, which for each type of library is a symbolic link 983c984 < to initialized S/Key, and to change passwords, iteration counts, or --- > to initialize S/Key, and to change passwords, iteration counts, or 1264c1265 < database, of if Kerberos is not running, simply delete the extra --- > database, or if Kerberos is not running, simply delete the extra 1432c1433 < renamed to srvtab so that all the server can pick --- > renamed to srvtab so that all the servers can pick 1958c1959 < If an index value is supplied, it used to --- > If an index value is supplied, it is used to 2172c2173 < connection (the SYN bit set is set but the ACK bit is --- > connection (the SYN bit is set but the ACK bit is 2351c2352 < packet can be passed on. syslogd with also start using up a lot --- > packet can be passed on. syslogd will also start using up a lot 2386c2387 < traffic there is normally a security threat (e.g. Suns RPC and --- > traffic there is, is normally a security threat (e.g. Suns RPC and 2391c2392 < If you want to allow access to archie, you'll have to allow --- > If you want to allow access to archie, you will have to allow 2478c2479 < The IPsec mechanism provides secure communication either for IP --- > The IPsec mechanism provides secure communication for IP 2499c2500 < Let's setup security association to deploy a secure channel --- > Let us setup security association to deploy a secure channel 2504c2505 < Now we should choose algorithm to be used corresponding to --- > Now we should choose an algorithm to be used corresponding to 2514c2515 < OK, let's assign SPI (Security Parameter Index) for each protocol. --- > OK, let us assign SPI (Security Parameter Index) for each protocol. 2549c2550 < Now, let's setup security association. Execute &man.setkey.8; --- > Now, let us setup security association. Execute &man.setkey.8; 2560,2561c2561,2562 < Actually, IPsec communication doesn't process until security policy < entries will be defined. In this case, you must setup each host. --- > Actually, IPsec communication does not process until security policy > entries are defined. In this case, you must setup each host. 2678c2679 < If port number field is omitted such above then "[any]" is --- > If the port number field is omitted such as above then "[any]" is 2862,2863c2863,2864 < client connects. The user is prompted to enter 'yes' only during < the first time connecting. Future attempts to login are all --- > client connects. The user is prompted to enter 'yes' only when > connecting for the first time. Future attempts to login are all >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 9:10:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F93637B407 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79GA1o54080; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.rhein-zeitung.de (mail.rhein-zeitung.DE [195.189.135.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1340837B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:00:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (pppin209.max-mainz.rz-online.NET [212.7.164.209]) by mail.rhein-zeitung.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f79G0qY08330 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:00:52 +0200 Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f79G0nr89849; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:00:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200108091600.f79G0nr89849@Moses.earth.sol> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:00:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29570 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 09:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 20 00:11:52 CEST 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: additional files marked up with , replaced literal " with , marked up root as user, changed fxp0 to show up as device, replaced bind with &man.named.8;, marked up syslog, ppp as >How-To-Repeat: read the Chapter 'Configuration and Tuning' >Fix: RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.12 diff -r1.12 chapter.sgml 158,159c158,159 < partition and be done with it? Then I don't have to worry < about undersizing things! --- > partition and be done with it? Then I don't have to worry > about undersizing things! 244c244,245 < or 'make world' will not overwrite the rc.conf --- > or make world will not overwrite the > rc.conf 267c268,269 < identified with a ".default" suffix. If there are no existing --- > identified with a .default suffix. If there > are no existing 285,287c287,289 < It can be quickly seen that only the srm.conf file has been < changed. A later update of the apache port would not overwrite < this changed file. --- > It can be quickly seen that only the srm.conf > file has been changed. A later update of the apache port would not > overwrite this changed file. 305,308c307,313 < system startup with a 'start' argument, and at system shutdown < with a 'stop' argument. This is the recommended way for < starting system-wide services that are to be run as root, or that < expect to be started as root. These scripts are registered as --- > system startup with a argument, and at > system shutdown with a argument. > This is the recommended way for > starting system-wide services that are to be run as > root, or that > expect to be started as root. > These scripts are registered as 364c369 < and maintained by non-root users. --- > and maintained by non-root users. 367c372,373 < time specification may be replaced by '@reboot', which will --- > time specification may be replaced by @reboot, > which will 383,384c389,391 < A given network interface has one "real" address, and may < have any number of "alias" addresses. These aliases are --- > A given network interface has one real address, > and may have any number of alias addresses. > These aliases are 388c395,396 < An alias entry for the interface 'fxp0' looks like: --- > An alias entry for the interface fxp0 > looks like: 403c411,412 < For example, consider the case where the fxp0 interface is --- > For example, consider the case where the > fxp0 interface is 446,447c455,456 < Extra sendmail configuration, other MTA configuration < files. --- > Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other > MTA configuration files. 452c461,462 < Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. --- > Configuration for both user- and > kernel-ppp programs. 457c467 < Default location for bind(8) data. Normally the --- > Default location for &man.named.8; data. Normally the 472,473c482,483 < Persistent system-specific data files, such as bind zone < files, database files, and so on. --- > Persistent system-specific data files, such as > &man.named.8; zone files, database files, and so on. 602c612,613 < of syslog messages are logged to particular log files. --- > of syslog messages are logged to particular > log files. 653,654c664,665 < causing them to be named: logfile.0.gz, logfile.1.gz, and so < on. --- > causing them to be named: logfile.0.gz, > logfile.1.gz, and so on. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 9:20:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E44D37B409 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79GK2U55206; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F64337B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79GCea54375; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108091612.f79GCea54375@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Evan Sarmiento To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29571: [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel functions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29571 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel functions >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 09:20:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Evan Sarmiento >Release: 5.0-RELEASE >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD armitage.sekt7.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Sat Aug 4 15:43:02 EDT 2001 root@armitage.sekt7.org:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/INSPIRON i386 >Description: No manpage for the pgrp() functions loacted in /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_proc.c. This manpages references three functions, enterpgrp, leavepgrp, and pgdelete. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: .\" Copyright (c) 2001 Evan Sarmiento. .\" All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" .Dd August 8, 2001 .Os .Dt PGFIND 9 .Sh NAME .Nm enterpgrp, leavepgrp, pgdelete .Nd functions for manipulating process groups .Sh SYNOPSIS .In sys/proc.h .Ft "int" .Fn enterpgrp "struct proc *p, pid_t pgid, int mksess" .Ft "int" .Fn leavepgrp "struct proc *p" .Ft "static void" .Fn pgdelete "struct pgrp *pgrp" .Sh DESCRIPTION .Fn enterpgrp takes three arguments: .Fa p .Fa pgid and .Fa mksess. .Fa p represents a pointer to a .Fa proc structure which is going to enter the process group refrenced by .Fa pgid. .Fa mksses is an option, that when toggled, makes .Fa p the leader of a new session. .Pp If .Fa pgrp is .Fa NULL the process specified by .Fa p becomes the leader of the process group. .Pp .Fn leavepgrp only takes one argument, a pointer to a .Fa proc structure designated by .Fa p. .Fa pgrp removes the proc structure referenced by p from its proces group. .Pp .Fn pgdelete requires one argument, .Fa pgrp, which is a pointer to a pgrp structure. .Fn pgdelete deletes the process group whose number is referenced by .Fa pgrp. .Sh RETURN VALUES .Fn enterpgrp returns a .Fa ESRCH if the process specified in the argument could not be found, otherwise it returns 0 on success. .Pp .Fn leavepgrp only returns 0. .Pp .Fn pgdelete does not return anything, as it is a void function. .Sh AUTHORS This man page was written by .An Evan Sarmiento Aq kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 10:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E024637B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79HU1W65723; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091730.f79HU1W65723@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29560: make buildkernel as described in the handbook causes a warning Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29560; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Andreas Riedel Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29560: make buildkernel as described in the handbook causes a warning Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:20:08 -0700 Andreas Riedel writes: > >Description: > If one does "make buildkernel" as described in the handbook, the warning > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> WARNING: KERNEL= setting should be changed to KERNCONF= > -------------------------------------------------------------- > is printed. > >Fix: > change > # make buildkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > # make installkernel KERNEL=MYKERNEL > to > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL > in section 7.3. Section 7.3 doesn't talk about buildkernel; it's entitled "The MBR, and Boot Stages One, Two, and Three". Furthermore, the only place "KERNEL=" appears in the Handbook is in the paragraph where it is contrasted with KERNCONF=. You must be looking at a different document, or at least a very old one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 10:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8AA37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79HU2X65731; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091730.f79HU2X65731@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29570; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Martin Heinen Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:28:47 -0700 Martin Heinen writes: > >Description: > > additional files marked up with , > replaced literal " with , > marked up root as user, > changed fxp0 to show up as device, > replaced bind with &man.named.8;, > marked up syslog, ppp as Great! Put please submit this in the form of a unified diff, and don't indent it. The former will make it easier to read, and the latter will make it possible to apply. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 10:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB4C37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79He2K67006; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091740.f79He2K67006@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29566; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: John Murphy Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:30:24 -0700 John Murphy writes: > >Description: ... > (This is my first attempt to send a diff via the web interface to send-pr. Let me know if I must use a different method, thanks.) You can use the send-pr(1) command if you prefer. > >Fix: > diff for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml (v1.64) > It should apply against Revision 1.65 ok. Please submit this in the form of a unified diff. That will make it a lot easier to review. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 10:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD22037B407 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79Ho1X68171; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091750.f79Ho1X68171@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29562; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Steven Enderle Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 10:42:11 -0700 Steven Enderle writes: > >Synopsis: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact This stems from the fact that the filesystem layout usually reflects the personal preferences of the admin who touches it first. I suppose some companies with a lot of systems may have some standard, but it really isn't the goal of the FreeBSD Project to dictate where you must put your data. > 2) it is unclear to me where to store special application data of my > servers. > in freebsd, it seems to be *scattered* around in the filesystem. > --- > examples: commonly i would guess to store, as the manpage states, > "multi-purpose log, temporary, _transient_, and spool files" in /var. > Although there is /usr/ports (which changes often in my point of > view), /usr/obj and /usr/src, which seem to be very dynamic also. > ok, someone could say its static if you don't cvsup it, but i > think it is thought to do so. Not to talk about (some) installed > ports (say, apache, samba, postgresql), which all save highly > changing data under /usr/local. Sources are ports aren't transient files. They may change often, but they aren't transient because they remain there for a long time, regardless of how often they change. One of the definitions of transient is "enduring [for] a very short time", and clearly you don't expect to remove ports and src on a daily basis. Things like logs, or other stuff in /var[/run], on the other hand, come and go at will. For example, starting inetd(8) will create /var/run/inetd.pid; stopping it will remove that file. Log files have similar, albeit on a smaller scale, properties. > But to get at the point: Where should i save my special application > data, such as big samba shares, data of custom applications, etc? > Should i put it in /var/myapp, or simply in /myapp? /usr/myapp > would also come into question ..... or /home/myapp which i see some- > times also. Short answer: it's up to you. I've seen all of those used successfully. > Is there a standart defined? No, there is no standard, and any attempt at one will fail. Each administrator has his or her own preference on the filesystem layout. > I think thats not as much as a *bug* as a problem between keyboard and > chair on my side, but i guess it would be helpfull to some people to > state something like 'thats the place where your data fits in' in > the hier(7) manpage. This isn't the point of hier(7). It's supposed to tell you where you can find certain things that are installed with FreeBSD. Anything you install or make yourself probably won't fit into that scheme. > I am waiting for your comments The PR database really isn't the place for such questions. There is a mailing list, questions@freebsd.org [cc'd], with people willing to answer them. You should only file a PR if you've found something that's obviously a bug. The hier(7) manual page is supposed to be a guide to where FreeBSD installs things, and I think it's doing a good job. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 11:47:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f148.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1143E37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craigery13@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:47:47 -0700 Received: from 209.52.193.44 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 18:47:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.52.193.44] From: "Craig R" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I wrote an NTLDR page that I would like evaluated Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:47:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2001 18:47:47.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[C85C8690:01C12103] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the URL is: http://www.geocities.com/craigery1326/usingntldr2.txt Please email me about comments/suggestions. I would like to see this doc make the handbook, but I won't mind if it doesn't. Craig _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 12: 0:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B3237B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79J06O78621; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091900.f79J06O78621@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: John Murphy Subject: Re: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Reply-To: John Murphy Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29566; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Murphy To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: dima@unixfreak.org Subject: Re: docs/29566: some punctuation etc. for Handbook Chapter 10. Security Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 19:57:55 +0100 ----=_j9n5nts1dcn82tvudfa04qtv9sagh6qv5u.MFSBCHJLHS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dima Dorfman wrote: >> (This is my first attempt to send a diff via the web interface to = send-pr. Let me know if I must use a different method, thanks.) >=20 > You can use the send-pr(1) command if you prefer. I prefer the web interface as long as it doesn't effect the diffs; seems ok as there are probably no tabs in the docs. >=20 > > >Fix: > > diff for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/chapter.sgml = (v1.64) > > It should apply against Revision 1.65 ok. >=20 > Please submit this in the form of a unified diff. That will make it a > lot easier to review. > Right, I wondered why other submitted diffs look different. I've attached the unified diff to preserve the Unix line endings. 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owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 12: 5:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E7437B405; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:05:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79Itg478081; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 11:55:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108091855.f79Itg478081@freefall.freebsd.org> To: enderle@mdn.de, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 9 11:55:30 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Please ask questions on questions@freebsd.org. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29562 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 12:18:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFFC37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A20C19C00160; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:18:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3B72E206.82A462FD@urx.com> Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 12:18:30 -0700 From: Kent Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig R Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I wrote an NTLDR page that I would like evaluated References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig R wrote: > > the URL is: > > http://www.geocities.com/craigery1326/usingntldr2.txt > > Please email me about comments/suggestions. I would like > to see this doc make the handbook, but I won't mind if it doesn't. There are a couple of things that I noticed. First is the history. Ntldr has been around since the first version of NT. Your article gives the impression, at least in my mind, that it is a Window 2000 thing. Someone running NT-4 would probably go HUH? and move on. What you are doing should also work with NT-4. I know of some systems running NT-3.x. I am not sure if I think that they know what they are doing but they usually have valid reasons. There are people running early versions of FreeBSD 2.x. With all of the security holes, I wonder about their reasons too. It would probably work with NT-3.x just as well. What you are doing is what I have done since I added FreeBSD to multiboot Windows systems. I think I follwed some comments by Mark Ovens. Some of these systems require deleting old version of Windows and adding new versions. None of the other boot managers handle this situation well. Installing a new version of NT will force adding the NTLDR back. FreeBSD is equally ego-centric because regardless of what you tell it to do, it will make its slice/partition the active one during an install. I follow stable and life is simple because no changes are required as you follow the upgrade path for these systems. I think your setup only works if the FreeBSD boot is on the disk0. There is a lot of thrashing that goes on if you install FreeBSD on disk1. Because I have my system setup for communicating between OSes, I have a Fat32 "C" drive. All of my OSes understand FAT32. There isn't any need to create a copy of /boot/boot0 on a floppy but I think it is safer. I have always loaded FreeBSD onto my disk0. There is a way to configure boot0 but I have always chickened out and installed FreeBSD on my disk0. When you install new versions of NT, it doesn't care and everything works well at that point. Kent > > Craig > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA Cool site http://www.bmwfilms.com mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 12:30:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657CD37B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79JUT284795; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108091930.f79JUT284795@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Salvo Bartolotta Subject: Re: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Reply-To: Salvo Bartolotta Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29562; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Salvo Bartolotta To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/29562: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:25:51 +0200 (CEST) [ This message has already been sent to the originator ] >>Number: 29562 >>Category: docs >>Synopsis: hier(7) still not very helpfull/exact >>Confidential: no >>Severity: non-critical >>Priority: medium >>Responsible: freebsd-doc >>State: open >>Quarter: >>Keywords: >>Date-Required: >>Class: wish >>Submitter-Id: current-users >>Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 09 05:00:07 PDT 2001 >>Closed-Date: >>Last-Modified: >>Originator: Steven Enderle >>Release: 4.3-STABLE >>Organization: >mdn Hübner GmbH >>Environment: >- >>Description: >1) /usr/ is still discribed as "contains the majority of user utilities and >applications" > i think this will mislead to think about "usr" as a short for "user" > Maybe the manpage should (IMHO) more correctly state "usr" as > a short for "Unix System Resources". Agnosco veteris vestigia flammae... In the past, this point was discussed on the -doc mailing list (eg "docs/21057: Little correction of hier(8)", which you is also listed in your google search. We had come to the conclusion that /usr probably derived from "USeR", and was also later interpreted as Unix System Resources; no (conclusive) evidence was then found; besides, this seemed irrelevant to the hier(7) man page. BTW (Ich lese und verstehe auch ein wenig Deutch), at http://www.netzmafia.de/skripten/unix/unix10.html#10.1, in prof. Plate's bibliography (which offers a limited selection of Unix books, a slighly Linux-centric one, for that matter), I can't find Kernighan & Pike's "The Unix Programming Environment"; the other links don't appear to provide a definitive answer. > see google-> 'usr "Unix System Resources"' >>http://www.google.de/search?q=usr+%22Unix+System+Resources%22&hl=de&safe=off > >2) it is unclear to me where to store special application data of my > servers. > in freebsd, it seems to be *scattered* around in the filesystem. > --- > examples: commonly i would guess to store, as the manpage states, > "multi-purpose log, temporary, _transient_, and spool files" in /var. > Although there is /usr/ports (which changes often in my point of > view), /usr/obj and /usr/src, which seem to be very dynamic also. > ok, someone could say its static if you don't cvsup it, but i > ports (say, apache, samba, postgresql), which all save highly > changing data under /usr/local. > --- > But to get at the point: Where should i save my special application > data, such as big samba shares, data of custom applications, etc? > Should i put it in /var/myapp, or simply in /myapp? /usr/myapp > would also come into question ..... or /home/myapp which i see some- > times also. Is there a standart defined? > I think thats not as much as a *bug* as a problem between keyboard and > chair on my side, but i guess it would be helpfull to some people to > state something like 'thats the place where your data fits in' in > the hier(7) manpage. > I am waiting for your comments You may wish to search for "/usr/local abuse" and similar threads. You may find them interesting/instructive/useful. The FreeSD archives ARE a great resource. Sometimes, I think their wisdom should be condensed into a book. :-) BTW, followups should go to -chat. -- Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 13:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE9C37B405 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f79KfJf13297; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:41:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:41:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Eric Masson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Status Report, July 2001 In-Reply-To: <86hevhunmz.fsf@notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe there is one actually, although it's "poorly linked" right now. Try http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/. It might make sense to link it from some other pages, since I seem to be managing to produce more than just one. Probably just sticking in a headline each time one is released would be sufficient, as that would get it up on the front page when relevant. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Eric Masson wrote: > >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Watson writes: > > Robert> Last month's status report was apparently a great success: I > Robert> received countless e-mails with comments, questions, and > Robert> suggestions. I've tried to incorporate any suggestions and > Robert> address any problems from these e-mails in this month's report, > Robert> which captures a far more extensive snapshot of FreeBSD > Robert> activity in the last month. Unlike last month's report, it does > Robert> a better job of reflecting non-development activity, such as > Robert> on-going conference planning, documentation, and so on. This is > Robert> a trend I hope to see improve in future months as well. > > The information coverage is quite perfect :). > > Have you considered a new page dedicated to the status report on the > FreeBSD web site ? > > Thanks for the great job > > Eric Masson > > -- > > le question est dans le titre. > > merci linuxement > > Merci de repondre par mail aussi. > -+- Greg in Guide du linuxien pervers : "Bien configurer son titre" -+- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 14: 0:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733DA37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f79L0Sn96590; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108092100.f79L0Sn96590@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Evan Sarmiento Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Reply-To: Evan Sarmiento Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29552; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Evan Sarmiento To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, ru@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Yes, I do accept the corrections. Commit away. Thanks a lot. :-) -- ----------------------------------- Evan Sarmiento | www.open-root.org ems@sekt7.org | www.sekt7.org/~ems/ ----------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 16:31: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from logatome.francenet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93F537B401; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e-masson@kisoft-services.com) Received: from notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (prov47.dialup.fluxus.net [193.149.102.47]) by logatome.francenet.fr (8.10.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f79NV2883408; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:31:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1205DE69D9; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:30:45 +0200 (CEST) To: Robert Watson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Status Report, July 2001 References: From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Robert Watson's message of "Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:41:19 -0400 (EDT)") X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 01:30:42 +0200 Message-ID: <86zo984xr1.fsf@notbsdems.nantes.kisoft-services.com> Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Watson writes: Robert> I believe there is one actually, although it's "poorly linked" Robert> right now. Try http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/status/. Ok, bookmarked. Robert> It might make sense to link it from some other pages, since I Robert> seem to be managing to produce more than just one. Probably Robert> just sticking in a headline each time one is released would be Robert> sufficient, as that would get it up on the front page when Robert> relevant. Yes, I was thinking about something close, and pointing to the previous page. Actual headline is just a link to -hackers mail archive. Regards Eric Masson -- > Je souhaiterais essayer Internet Explorer 4.0 sous Linux. > Il existe 2 versions: une sous HP/UX et une sous Solaris > Laquelle dois je utiliser? -+- MJM in Guide du linuxien pervers : "Choisir son environnement" -+- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 9 16:32:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blue.blueskyfrog.com (blue.blueskyfrog.com [203.185.223.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8829C37B405 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ns@BlueSkyFrog.COM) Received: from gold.internal.blueskyfrog.com ([192.168.121.34]) by blue.blueskyfrog.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15UzHl-0000SF-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:32:17 +1000 Received: from ns by gold.internal.blueskyfrog.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15UzHl-0000jr-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:32:17 +1000 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:32:17 +1000 From: Nick Slager To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Craig R Subject: Re: I wrote an NTLDR page that I would like evaluated Message-ID: <20010810093217.C2787@BlueSkyFrog.COM> References: <3B72E206.82A462FD@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B72E206.82A462FD@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 12:18:30PM -0700 X-Homer: Whoohooooooo! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Kent Stewart (kstewart@urx.com): > NTLDR back. FreeBSD is equally ego-centric because regardless of what > you tell it to do, it will make its slice/partition the active one > during an install. I follow stable and life is simple because no changes > are required as you follow the upgrade path for these systems. Because FreeBSD marks its slice active, you might want to include instructions on using fdisk to change the active slice to your windows partition. Subsequent to the first boot, of course. One other thing you may want to check: some versions of FreeBSD use a 1024 byte boot sector, so you might want to take that into consideration when copying the bootsector to a file. Cheers, Nick -- Nick Slager | Quidquid latine dictum ns@BlueSkyFrog.COM | sit, altum viditur. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 0:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4787A37B401; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from ru@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7A7NfC37899; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:23:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108100723.f7A7NfC37899@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx, ru@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, ru@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29552: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] No man page for pgfind() State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ru State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 10 00:20:54 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ru Responsible-Changed-By: ru Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Aug 10 00:20:54 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29552 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 4: 0:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23E337B409 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AB0Ew76360; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:00:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 04:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108101100.f7AB0Ew76360@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Martin Heinen Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Reply-To: Martin Heinen Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29570; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Martin Heinen To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:52:10 +0200 --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:28:47AM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Great! Put please submit this in the form of a unified diff, and > don't indent it. The former will make it easier to read, and the > latter will make it possible to apply. Sorry for the inconvenience, I attached a unified diff against 1.13. Martin -- Marxpitn --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=ch-udiff Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/08/09 23:42:29 1.13 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/08/10 10:41:22 @@ -159,8 +159,8 @@ Why Partition? Why partition at all? Why not create one big root - partition and be done with it? Then I don't have to worry - about undersizing things! + partition and be done with it? Then I don't have to worry + about undersizing things! There are several reasons this is not a good idea. First, each partition has different operational @@ -245,7 +245,8 @@ unique. Upgrading the system using &man.sysinstall.8; - or 'make world' will not overwrite the rc.conf + or make world will not overwrite the + rc.conf file, so system configuration information will not be lost.
    @@ -268,7 +269,8 @@ Normally, when a port or package is installed, sample configuration files are also installed. These are usually - identified with a ".default" suffix. If there are no existing + identified with a .default suffix. If there + are no existing configuration files for the application, they will be created by copying the .default files. @@ -286,9 +288,9 @@ -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7980 May 20 1998 srm.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7933 May 20 1998 srm.conf.default - It can be quickly seen that only the srm.conf file has been - changed. A later update of the apache port would not overwrite - this changed file. + It can be quickly seen that only the srm.conf + file has been changed. A later update of the apache port would not + overwrite this changed file. @@ -306,10 +308,13 @@ Software installed from a port or the packages collection will often place a script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d which is invoked at - system startup with a 'start' argument, and at system shutdown - with a 'stop' argument. This is the recommended way for - starting system-wide services that are to be run as root, or that - expect to be started as root. These scripts are registered as + system startup with a argument, and at + system shutdown with a argument. + This is the recommended way for + starting system-wide services that are to be run as + root, or that + expect to be started as root. + These scripts are registered as part of the installation of the package, and will be removed when the package is removed. @@ -365,10 +370,11 @@ system services. This approach has a number of advantages, not least being that because &man.cron.8; runs these processes as the owner of the crontab, services may be started - and maintained by non-root users.
    + and maintained by non-root users.
    This takes advantage of an undocumented feature of &man.cron.8; the - time specification may be replaced by '@reboot', which will + time specification may be replaced by @reboot, + which will cause the job to be run when &man.cron.8; is started shortly after system boot. @@ -384,12 +390,14 @@ achieved by assigning multiple network addresses to a single interface. - A given network interface has one "real" address, and may - have any number of "alias" addresses. These aliases are + A given network interface has one real address, + and may have any number of alias addresses. + These aliases are normally added by placing alias entries in /etc/rc.conf. - An alias entry for the interface 'fxp0' looks like: + An alias entry for the interface fxp0 + looks like: ifconfig_fxp0_alias0="inet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" @@ -404,7 +412,8 @@ Any other addresses which fall within this network must have a netmask of all 1's. - For example, consider the case where the fxp0 interface is + For example, consider the case where the + fxp0 interface is connected to two networks, the 10.1.1.0 network with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 and the 202.0.75.16 network with a netmask of 255.255.255.240. We want the system to appear at 10.1.1.1 @@ -447,18 +456,19 @@ /etc/mail - Extra sendmail configuration, other MTA configuration - files. + Extra &man.sendmail.8; configuration, other + MTA configuration files. /etc/ppp - Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. + Configuration for both user- and + kernel-ppp programs. /etc/namedb - Default location for bind(8) data. Normally the + Default location for &man.named.8; data. Normally the boot file is located here, and contains a directive to refer to other data in /var/db. @@ -473,8 +483,8 @@ /var/db - Persistent system-specific data files, such as bind zone - files, database files, and so on. + Persistent system-specific data files, such as + &man.named.8; zone files, database files, and so on. @@ -603,7 +613,8 @@ syslog.conf is the configuration file for the &man.syslogd.8; program. It indicates which types - of syslog messages are logged to particular log files. + of syslog messages are logged to particular + log files. # $FreeBSD$ # @@ -654,8 +665,8 @@ logfile.1, logfile.1 is moved to logfile.2, and so on. Additionally, the log files may be archived in &man.gzip.1; format - causing them to be named: logfile.0.gz, logfile.1.gz, and so - on. + causing them to be named: logfile.0.gz, + logfile.1.gz, and so on. newsyslog.conf indicates which log files are to be managed, how many are to be kept, and when @@ -743,8 +754,9 @@ &prompt.root; sysctl kern.maxfiles=5000 kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 - Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, numbers, - or booleans. A boolean being 1 for yes or a 0 for no. + Settings of &man.sysctl.8; variables are usually either strings, + numbers, or booleans. A boolean being 1 for yes + or a 0 for no. --82I3+IH0IqGh5yIs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 8: 9: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2EE37B406; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AF93d32924; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:09:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:09:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getdiskbyname.3 getpwent.3 src/lib/libc/regex regex.3 src/lib/libc/sys clock_gettime.2 mlock.2 send.2 src/lib/libcam cam_cdbparse.3 src/lib/libdisk libdisk.3 src/lib/libedit editrc.5 src/lib/libm/common_source ... In-Reply-To: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > mdoc(7) police: protect trailing full stops of abbreviations > with a trailing zero-width space: `e.g.\&'. I cannot think of any circumstance where `e.g.' (or `i.e.', for that matter) is correct when not followed immediately by a comma or other punctuation, *except* when used at the end of a sentence in which case the end-of-sentence space is appropriate. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 8:37:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFD937B406 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f7AFU0G71338; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:30:00 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:30:00 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Garrett Wollman Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getdiskbyname.3 getpwent.3 src/lib/libc/regex regex.3 src/lib/libc/sys clock_gettime.2 mlock.2 send.2 src/lib/libcam cam_cdbparse.3 src/lib/libdisk libdisk.3 src/lib/libedit editrc.5 src/lib/libm/common_source ... Message-ID: <20010810183000.A70373@sunbay.com> References: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:09:03AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 11:09:03AM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > mdoc(7) police: protect trailing full stops of abbreviations > > with a trailing zero-width space: `e.g.\&'. > > I cannot think of any circumstance where `e.g.' (or `i.e.', for that > matter) is correct when not followed immediately by a comma or other > punctuation, *except* when used at the end of a sentence in which case > the end-of-sentence space is appropriate. > *sigh* Please see attached. :-) Additionally, under the "eg" article of that same dictionary, I see: "popular pets, eg dogs, cats and rabbits." Then, in Appendix 3, "Punctuation and writing", we have: ``A full stop or (US) period is used sometimes, though not in this dictionary, in abbreviations: "Jan. e.g. a.m.".'' And I have found no rule there that says that the dot should be used in this case. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f19JmuY35022 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:48:57 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9526E2641 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9390837B6A2; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:48:50 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ru@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB0F37B699 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 11:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA02173 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:48:46 +1100 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:48:24 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/sys setreuid.2 In-Reply-To: <200102091247.f19ClQc53928@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Modified files: > lib/libc/sys setreuid.2 > Log: > mdoc(7) police: prevent generation of the extra > whitespace after ``i.e.'', use .Rv, update .Dd. This would also be fixed by the English police. AFAIK (not very well -- I haven't looked at an English grammar textbook for 31 years :-), a comma is almost always required after ``i.e.''. It seems to be be required here. Another ``if'' after the comma seems best too. Adding either the comma or the ``if'' fixes the whitespace. Sheldon didn't really agree with me about the comma: > From bde@zeta.org.au Thu Mar 2 05:39:16 2000 +1100 > Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 05:39:15 +1100 (EST) > From: Bruce Evans > X-Sender: bde@alphplex.bde.org > To: Sheldon Hearn > Subject: Re: please check English fixes for rcmd.3 > In-Reply-To: <75745.951904828@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Status: O > X-Status: > X-Keywords: > X-UID: 18 > > > The patch is good and what follows are minor nits only. > > Thanks. > > > > ! The functions with an > > > ! .Dq Li _af > > > ! suffix, i.e., > > > > I'm pretty sure you can drop that trailing comma. > > I don't think so. I decide by expanding "i.e." to "that is" and seeing if > the result is strange without the comma. Zgrepping /usr/share/man/* gives > the inconclusive results: > - 684 lines with "i.e." > - 370 lines with "i.e.," > - 1 line with "i.e. ," (space needed when "i.e." is a macro arg). > > Bruce Bruce --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1HAZvr97712 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:36:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722726E279C for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 02:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 486AD37B491; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 02:35:51 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: ru@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F341E37B401 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 02:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA10444 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:35:47 +1100 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 21:35:18 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/sys setreuid.2 In-Reply-To: <20010216113044.A9729@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Oxford Advanced Learner's dictionary: > > "ie" abbr that is to say; in other words (Latin id est): > > Example sentence: > > Hot drinks, ie tea and coffee, are also available. I can't believe it says exactly that :-). First, the normal abbreviation is "i.e.", not "ie". Second, "that is" is normally followed by a comma, and I think the rules for the comma aren't changes because something is abbreviated. Zgrepping in /usr/share/man/man1/* shows only 2 cases where ", that is" is not followed by a comma. These are both in systat.1, and both seem to need the comma to me. Bruce --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 8:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3EA37B409 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AFe1540148; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81CE237B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AFcf840044; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200108101538.f7AFcf840044@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Murphy To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/29605: Single typo in Handbook 9.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29605 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Single typo in Handbook 9.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel? >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 10 08:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Murphy >Release: 4.x Stable >Organization: none >Environment: >Description: Previously missed typo in: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml bought -> brought >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: diff against revision 1.58 --- kernelchapter.sgml.txt Fri Aug 10 16:01:53 2001 +++ kernelchapterX.sgml.txt Fri Aug 10 16:01:53 2001 @@ -85,7 +85,7 @@ kernel's functionality is contained in modules which can be dynamically loaded and unloaded from the kernel as necessary. This allows the kernel to adapt to new hardware suddenly becoming available (such as - PCMCIA cards in a laptop), or for new functionality to be bought in to + PCMCIA cards in a laptop), or for new functionality to be brought in to the kernel that was not necessary when the kernel was originally compiled. Colloquially these are called KLDs. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 8:43:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (ns.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAD037B403; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@ark.cris.net) Received: from ark.cris.net (ark.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23201; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:43:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f7AFgkw46548; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:42:46 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:42:46 +0300 From: Alexey Zelkin To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: jake@freebsd.org, benno@freebsd.org, sepotvin@videotron.ca Subject: few reminders ... Message-ID: <20010810184246.A44250@ark.cris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, since i don't have enough time right now -- i would pass few website's todo points, which should be done now. 1) Since we have already incorporated early port for Sparc64 and have announced early port for StrongARM -- why we still does not have these notices in NewsFlash page ? 2) Also it's time to add page for ARM to www/en/platforms. And update all existent pages there with progress made for last year. Maintainers please submit notes which you would see there to this list and someone from doc committers will take this task. 3) Also we need to update FAQ (and handbook?) notes about platforms which FreeBSD is going to support. Where're only notes that "some interest is present, but no real work for now" in FAQ now. I.e. outdated information. 4) TO ALL SUBSCRIBERS: If you know that any important new related to FreeBSD or just BSD -- write to this (or to freebsd-www) mailing list and ask committers to add it to newflash page. It's strange to know that a lot of activities is going on in BSD world, but almost nothing appears at newsflash page on main site. :-( BTW, it's just MHO and comments on this opinion are welcome (if any). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 9: 6:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FF837B403; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010810160608.NTAH21979.femail35.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:06:08 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7AG67u76214; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108101606.f7AG67u76214@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <200108101601.f7AG1ax42346@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200108101601.f7AG1ax42346@freefall.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to "Bruce A. Mah" message dated "Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:01:36 -0700." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-539303334P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:06:07 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-539303334P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Bruce A. Mah" wrote: > bmah 2001/08/10 09:01:36 PDT > > Modified files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > Log: > Remove the copy of the Supported Hardware list (which is release- and > architecture-specific) from the Installing FreeBSD chapter of the > Handbook. Point readers to the hardware notes for the version of > FreeBSD that they have. > > Approved by: nik This commit comes almost exactly one month late. As far as I can tell this doesn't interfere with any of the (truly excellent) ongoing work on the Handbook, but if it causes any grief for anyone, I'll back it out. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-539303334P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7dAZu2MoxcVugUsMRAjN/AJ9koMVDpztLqqIChCZhDqFo+t5rwwCg4qY3 lwrmGTw+MomzIeuiUeW2TZ0= =HvQz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-539303334P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 9:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690EC37B407; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AGJY846910; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:19:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108101619.f7AGJY846910@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29605: Single typo in Handbook 9.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Single typo in Handbook 9.2 Why Build a Custom Kernel? State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 10 09:19:16 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29605 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 10:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F54837B406 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AHA1s54783; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from mail.rhein-zeitung.de (mail.rhein-zeitung.DE [195.189.135.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F65637B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (pppin32.max-mainz.rz-online.NET [212.7.164.32]) by mail.rhein-zeitung.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7AH5Vx30486 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:05:31 +0200 Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7AGcVF97351; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:38:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200108101638.f7AGcVF97351@Moses.earth.sol> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:38:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/29610: corrections for chapter 'Disks' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29610 >Category: docs >Synopsis: corrections for chapter 'Disks' >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 10 10:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jul 20 00:11:52 CEST 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: changed to for ad1, marked up keypress as >How-To-Repeat: read the chapter disks >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/disks/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.46 diff -u -r1.46 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/08/10 01:18:34 1.46 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/08/10 16:20:05 @@ -508,7 +508,7 @@ be da1 and we want to mount it on /1 (if you are adding an IDE drive, the device name will be wd1 in pre-4.0 systems, or - ad1 in most 4.X systems). + ad1 in most 4.X systems). partitions slices @@ -568,7 +568,7 @@ FDISK Partition Editor Select da1 to enter the FDISK - Partition Editor. Type A to + Partition Editor. Type A to use the entire disk for FreeBSD. When asked if you want to remain cooperative with any future possible operating systems, answer YES. Write the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 10:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from toole.uol.com.br (toole.uol.com.br [200.231.206.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D4037B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:26:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@uol.com.br) Received: from 200.181.49.220 ([200.181.49.220]) by toole.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA08479 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:24:16 -0300 (BRT) Received: (qmail 73095 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Aug 2001 17:25:27 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:25:05 -0300 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Bad link on press.html Message-ID: <20010810142505.A63306@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The February link: For servers: Linux 2.4 vs FreeBSD 4.1.1 is not working. The correct URI is http://www.byte.com/documents/s=558/BYT20010130S0010/ Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - UnB - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." lioux at ( freebsd dot org | linf dot unb dot br ) flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 11:49:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E1637B405; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7AIneH35664; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:49:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200108101849.f7AIneH35664@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen getdiskbyname.3 getpwent.3 src/lib/libc/regex regex.3 src/lib/libc/sys clock_gettime.2 mlock.2 send.2 src/lib/libcam cam_cdbparse.3 src/lib/libdisk libdisk.3 src/lib/libedit editrc.5 src/lib/libm/common_source ... In-Reply-To: <20010810183000.A70373@sunbay.com> References: <200108101345.f7ADjaX90494@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101509.f7AF93d32924@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20010810183000.A70373@sunbay.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Additionally, under the "eg" article of that same dictionary, I see: > "popular pets, eg dogs, cats and rabbits." Which dictionary? There appears to be a fashion in certain Rightpondian circles never to put periods in abbreviations, but the manual pages are written in Leftpondian English where doing so is almost never correct. I'd say ``appeal to irrelevant authority''. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 13:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A3A437B407; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:51:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 00DB14B65D; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:57:33 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20010810135733.C28591@windriver.com> References: <200108101601.f7AG1ax42346@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101606.f7AG67u76214@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200108101606.f7AG67u76214@intruder.bmah.org>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 09:06:07AM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 09:06:07AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > This commit comes almost exactly one month late. As far as I can tell > this doesn't interfere with any of the (truly excellent) ongoing work on > the Handbook, but if it causes any grief for anyone, I'll back it out. Certainly not. Thanks for doing this! Randy should be ready to commit his completely rewritten Chapter 2 next week sometime. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 13:56:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EEB37B406; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 8C02A4B65D; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:02:56 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rethinking man page references in the Handbook Message-ID: <20010810140256.D28591@windriver.com> References: <20010807170037.O23183@windriver.com> <20010808025057.I23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010808025057.I23891@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:50:57AM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 02:50:57AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > The second problem is that we simply use &man.cmd.sec; entities too > > often. There are many paragraphs that contain the same man entity 4-5 > > times which is very distracting. These entities are very useful but I > > think that we should only use them them the first time that a command > > is mentioned in a section, and then markup the command in > > for future references in that paragraph and following ones. >=20 > What do you find distracting? The number of links that are generated in > the HTML output, or the proliferation of parentheses? Both. > If it's the former then that's some DSSSL that checks to see whether > there's been any other elements to the same man page in > the outermost enclosing element (probably up to the level) and > omits the link if there have been. >=20 > If it's the latter then it's a probably a style issue. Can you nominate > a sample paragraph that you think goes over the top? Yep, how about this one : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/backup-programs.h= tml (top of page) I think that most of the man entities here should be replaced with s. Its distracting to read this section online or in print format. - Murray --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7dEv/tNcQog5FH30RAvRMAJ4wAydC0FUsMEQi+jQPZ3nn0mPoVACdH0ck te45EFBy1mJrydn2QVCfOrg= =27Gr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 14: 7:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD1937B405; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:07:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010810210724.IIBQ25522.femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:07:24 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.5/8.11.3) id f7AL7Ox81766; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:07:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200108102107.f7AL7Ox81766@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Murray Stokely Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <20010810135733.C28591@windriver.com> References: <200108101601.f7AG1ax42346@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101606.f7AG67u76214@intruder.bmah.org> <20010810135733.C28591@windriver.com> Comments: In-reply-to Murray Stokely message dated "Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:57:33 -0700." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_439281208P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:07:24 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_439281208P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 09:06:07AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > This commit comes almost exactly one month late. As far as I can tell > > this doesn't interfere with any of the (truly excellent) ongoing work on > > the Handbook, but if it causes any grief for anyone, I'll back it out. > > Certainly not. Thanks for doing this! OK, good...I was just worried about running into other changes. > Randy should be ready to > commit his completely rewritten Chapter 2 next week sometime. Excellent. We've been talking about this, to see if it's possible to reduce the amount of duplication between Chapter 2 and the installation document in RELNOTESng, or if we can't do that, at least to make them more consistent with each other. (I've been avoiding looking at INSTALL.* for a few weeks because I don't want to deal with it, but with a release looming I'd better get my act together.) Thanks, Bruce. --==_Exmh_439281208P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7dE0L2MoxcVugUsMRAtz4AJ4sKT/iX2HK1zL0nQe9HfGsfJRLMgCeP8vU 58TZanjZaHSmb26OmLPUPCo= =SREM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_439281208P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 16:13:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC8737B405; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102035073.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.35.73]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA24992; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:13:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: Murray Stokely , "Bruce A. Mah" Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:13:30 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200108101601.f7AG1ax42346@freefall.freebsd.org> <200108101606.f7AG67u76214@intruder.bmah.org> <20010810135733.C28591@windriver.com> In-Reply-To: <20010810135733.C28591@windriver.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081019133007.00387@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 10 August 2001 16:57, Murray Stokely wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 09:06:07AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > This commit comes almost exactly one month late. As far as I can tell > > this doesn't interfere with any of the (truly excellent) ongoing work on > > the Handbook, but if it causes any grief for anyone, I'll back it out. > > Certainly not. Thanks for doing this! Randy should be ready to > commit his completely rewritten Chapter 2 next week sometime. I've placed a copy for review and comments at: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/view/ (html build) http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/src/ (sources) I posted the entire handbook build but only the following sections are involved: 2.2 Preparing For Installation (unmodified except for section title) 2.3 Pre-Installation (new) 2.4 Installation (new) 2.5 Post-installation (new) I modified from install/chapter.sgml,v 1.80 (currently 1.84). I'll merge my changes into the latest version before committing next week. This will still leave some time for more improvements before the release. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 18:29:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.caramail.com (mail2.caramail.com [195.68.99.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FD337B401 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from theluckies13@caramail.com) Received: from caramail.com (www12.caramail.com [195.68.99.32]) by mail2.caramail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA14825; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:29:45 +0200 (DST) Posted-Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:29:45 +0200 (DST) From: "P.A. Lachance" To: "doc@FreeBSD.org" Message-ID: <997493385016842@caramail.com> X-Mailer: Caramail - www.caramail.com X-Originating-IP: [206.172.97.165] Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Salut ! 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J'attend votre r=E9ponse avec impatience de faire mon montage e-mail : theluckies13@caramail.com P.A. ______________________________________________________ Bo=EEte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com --=_NextPart_Caramail_016842997493385_ID-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 10 19:12: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1D937B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7AIY8W60739; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:34:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:34:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bad link on press.html Message-ID: <20010810193407.K50182@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010810142505.A63306@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZG5hGh9V5E9QzVHS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010810142505.A63306@Fedaykin.here>; from lioux@uol.com.br on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 02:25:05PM -0300 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ZG5hGh9V5E9QzVHS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 02:25:05PM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wr= ote: > The correct URI is >=20 > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=3D558/BYT20010130S0010/ Fixed. Thanks. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ZG5hGh9V5E9QzVHS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjt0KR4ACgkQk6gHZCw343VTdACgj65wqz5FaCMbM3B44rD9GDIT KKUAn19G/ihwCLvBulKeOSJDVJ7VUzDz =iuJF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZG5hGh9V5E9QzVHS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 8:20:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93F537B406 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@ntlworld.com) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.7]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010811152038.INSW20588.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:20:38 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7BFKjt27165; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:20:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:20:45 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: Kent Stewart , Craig R Subject: Re: I wrote an NTLDR page that I would like evaluated Message-ID: <20010811162045.A275@parish> References: <3B72E206.82A462FD@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B72E206.82A462FD@urx.com>; from kstewart@urx.com on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 12:18:30PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 12:18:30PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Craig R wrote: > > > > the URL is: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/craigery1326/usingntldr2.txt > > > > Please email me about comments/suggestions. I would like > > to see this doc make the handbook, but I won't mind if it doesn't. > A good, well written article. With regard to adding it to the handbook, this subject is already covered in the FAQ (7.9. How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?) which was partly written by myself (that is a statement of fact, not an accusation of plagiarism ;-)) but your article does go into the subject in greater depth. What I suggest you do is to enhance (or even rewrite) the FAQ entry and submit it as a PR preferably including diffs to the SGML source. If you would rather just submit it as ASCII that's fine too (all contributions greatly accepted), if you send it to me I'll do the SGML stuff and commit it (giving you credit for the work of course) - it's time I started doing some work around here again anyway :-) > There are a couple of things that I noticed. First is the history. Ntldr > has been around since the first version of NT. Your article gives the > impression, at least in my mind, that it is a Window 2000 thing. Someone > running NT-4 would probably go HUH? and move on. What you are doing > should also work with NT-4. I know of some systems running NT-3.x. I am > not sure if I think that they know what they are doing but they usually > have valid reasons. There are people running early versions of FreeBSD > 2.x. With all of the security holes, I wonder about their reasons too. > It would probably work with NT-3.x just as well. > > What you are doing is what I have done since I added FreeBSD to > multiboot Windows systems. I think I follwed some comments by Mark > Ovens. Some of these systems require deleting old version of Windows and > adding new versions. None of the other boot managers handle this > situation well. Installing a new version of NT will force adding the > NTLDR back. The biggest problem with re-installing Windows (or installing a new version) on a multi-boot system is that the Windows installer blindly writes a new MBR, although it does seem to respect existing Windows MBRs. Certainly in W98 (and possibly 95) it "knows about" NT and so installing 98 on a machine with NT won't result in the MBR being overwritten (so NTLDR will still be run and you'll get the boot menu, with Win98 added). It appears to do this by looking for certain strings in the MBR such as "MS", "WIN", "WIN4" etc. But if you've got a FreeBSD MBR it's going to be zapped! > FreeBSD is equally ego-centric because regardless of what > you tell it to do, it will make its slice/partition the active one > during an install. In my experience FreeBSD has always left *no* partition active! I've always had complicated multi-OS, multi-disk setups so maybe that was confusing sysinstall. The last FreeBSD I installed was 3.1 (I've used ``make world'' to upgrade ever since) so maybe things have changed since then. > I follow stable and life is simple because no changes > are required as you follow the upgrade path for these systems. > > I think your setup only works if the FreeBSD boot is on the disk0. There > is a lot of thrashing that goes on if you install FreeBSD on disk1. This is correct. Unless things have changed in the FreeBSD boot mechanism in the last year or so you would need the FreeBSD boot manager to make it work. The file C:\BOOTSECT.BSD (or whatever you call it) is actually /boot/boot1. However, /boot/boot1 can only search for the FreeBSD partition (BSD: slice) on the same disk that it is run on. Note the warning I added to the FAQ (7.9. How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?): Warning: DO NOT SIMPLY COPY /boot/boot0 INSTEAD OF /boot/boot1, YOU WILL OVERWRITE YOUR PARTITION TABLE AND RENDER YOUR COMPUTER UN-BOOTABLE! That is the voice of experience speaking ;-) The upshot of this is that if you wish to install FreeBSD (or more specifically the FreeBSD root partition) on a disk other than the first you have to use the FreeBSD boot manager to select FreeBSD or Windows. If you selected Windows you would then get the NTLDR boot menu so you have to go through 2 menus to boot Windows. I recently added another HD to my system but money dictated that I had to go IDE instead of SCSI :-(. My original setup, on 2 SCSI disks was: disk0: C: FAT FreeBSD / and swap NTFS W2K disk1: FreeBSD /usr ``/'' was on the first disk because of the above limitations. However, when I added the IDE I could not get all the elements in my system (BIOS, SCSI BIOS, OS loaders) to see disk0 as the first disk so I had to set it up with the IDE as the first disk. This would have meant moving ``/'' to the IDE which would possibly/probably have meant rebuilding my FreeBSD system. Much to my delight I discovered that BootMagic that comes with Partition Magic 6 (and PM 5 as well, IIRC) can boot *any* OS from *any* partition on *any* disk :-) In the case of FreeBSD is doesn't even need C:\BOOTSECT.BSD all it needs is the first partition on the first disk to be FAT (or, more accurately, a FS that all installed OSes can read/write) so I now have: disk0 (IDE): C: FAT D: NTFS W2K disk1 (SCSI): FreeBSD /, swap, and /usr disk2 (SCSI): FreeBSD /home > Because I have my system setup for communicating between OSes, I have a > Fat32 "C" drive. All of my OSes understand FAT32. There isn't any need > to create a copy of /boot/boot0 on a floppy but I think it is safer. I > have always loaded FreeBSD onto my disk0. There is a way to configure > boot0 but I have always chickened out and installed FreeBSD on my disk0. > When you install new versions of NT, it doesn't care and everything > works well at that point. > > Kent > > > > > Craig > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > -- > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA > > Cool site > http://www.bmwfilms.com > > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html > http://daily.daemonnews.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:15:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3032D37B406; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BK73W64718; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112007.f7BK73W64718@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@aa.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29503: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:06:38 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: There's nothing unique or unusual about NFS. How about just getting rid of that part of the sentence? http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29503 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:15:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DF437B40B; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BK6W464610; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:06:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112006.f7BK6W464610@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29503: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:05:15 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: misfiled http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29503 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:15:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46E437B413; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BK9Cw64924; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:09:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112009.f7BK9Cw64924@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29505: kbdmap(1) Bugs section is for wrong commands. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: kbdmap(1) Bugs section is for wrong commands. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:07:44 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: misfiled http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29505 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:16: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA07937B41C; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BKAOn65206; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:10:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112010.f7BKAOn65206@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29511: Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Commands". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Commands". Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:09:47 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: misfiled http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29511 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:16:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9BE37B41A; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BKBDP65307; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112011.f7BKBDP65307@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dd@FreeBSD.org, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29506: kbdmap(1) doesn't explain that cmd is interactive only. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: kbdmap(1) doesn't explain that cmd is interactive only. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:10:27 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: misfiled http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29506 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E157B37B408 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BKU1O67039; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108112030.f7BKU1O67039@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/29570; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Martin Heinen Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:23:11 -0700 Martin Heinen writes: > > /etc/ppp > - Configuration for both user- and kernel-ppp programs. > + Configuration for both user- and > + kernel-ppp programs. > This isn't right, because it isn't talking about ppp(8) specifically. > @@ -743,8 +754,9 @@ > &prompt.root; sysctl kern.maxfiles=5000 > kern.maxfiles: 2088 -> 5000 > > - Settings of sysctl variables are usually either strings, numbers, > - or booleans. A boolean being 1 for yes or a 0 for no. > + Settings of &man.sysctl.8; variables are usually either strings, Changing sysctl -> sysctl.8 seems wrong, since that command isn't the only way to set sysctl variables. Besides, there's concern with overusing the man page entities. Other than that, the patch looks good. I'll apply it shortly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:35:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2241137B40A; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BKPuP66733; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112025.f7BKPuP66733@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29570: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Mark Up changes for chapter Configuration and Tuning State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:25:49 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29570 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:46:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailin10.bigpond.com (juicer35.bigpond.com [139.134.6.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0230B37B408 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronaldsoft@bigpond.com) Received: from ronald ([139.134.4.51]) by mailin10.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GHX8MV00.G44 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:52:07 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-98-108.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.98.108]) by mail7.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9g 15/1441658); 12 Aug 2001 06:46:18 From: "Ronaldsoft Network" To: Subject: help Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:46:44 +1000 Message-ID: <000b01c122a6$bb565f80$0100a8c0@nsw.bigpond.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C122FA.8D026F80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C122FA.8D026F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If primary internet connection is on a windows box how can I share the connection so I can use the internet on my FreeBSD system? - Thanks Ronald. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C122FA.8D026F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    If primary internet connection is on a windows box = how can I share the connection so I can use the internet on my FreeBSD = system?

     

    -          Thanks

     

    Ronald.

    ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C122FA.8D026F80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:48:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E96C37B40A; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9DB14312E; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:48:33 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: dd@FreeBSD.org Cc: swear@aa.net, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29503: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". Message-ID: <20010811134833.A6616@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <200108112007.f7BK73W64718@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200108112007.f7BK73W64718@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 at 13:07:03 -0700, dd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: Handbook uses nonsensical "very unique". > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: dd > State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 13:06:38 PDT 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > There's nothing unique or unusual about NFS. How about just getting > rid of that part of the sentence? Sounds good to me. Nuke it. - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 13:53: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B7937B409 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DD6E13130; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 13:53:06 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Ronaldsoft Network Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help Message-ID: <20010811135306.C6616@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <000b01c122a6$bb565f80$0100a8c0@nsw.bigpond.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c122a6$bb565f80$0100a8c0@nsw.bigpond.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 at 06:46:44 +1000, Ronaldsoft Network wrote: > If primary internet connection is on a windows box how can I share the > connection so I can use the internet on my FreeBSD system? 1) This question doesn't belong here. Try freebsd-questions. 2) This isn't really a FreeBSD question, unless you want to use your FreeBSD box as the gateway. If you want to use your Windows machine as the gateway, the FreeBSD lists aren't the place to ask. - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 14:35:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C20D37B405; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f7BLQ3i74930; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:26:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200108112126.f7BLQ3i74930@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mheinen0@wiesbaden-online.de, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/29610: corrections for chapter 'Disks' Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: corrections for chapter 'Disks' State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 11 14:25:53 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Applied, thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29610 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 14:36: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781FE37B406 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jchandyrr@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (user-38ldf8v.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.189.31]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08916 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B75A4C1.4060907@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:33:53 -0400 From: John Chandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en, malay MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: dual installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it possible to install freebsc on a pc running windows98 (2nd edition) or windows NT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 16:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from host213-123-133-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com (host213-123-133-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.133.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1F837B406 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:30:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dominic@host213-123-133-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com) Received: (from dominic@localhost) by host213-123-133-89.in-addr.btopenworld.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f7BNUfO66117; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:30:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dominic) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:30:40 +0100 From: Dominic Marks To: John Chandy Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: dual installation Message-ID: <20010812003040.A33491@btinternet.com> References: <3B75A4C1.4060907@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B75A4C1.4060907@earthlink.net>; from jchandyrr@earthlink.net on Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 05:33:53PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 05:33:53PM -0400, John Chandy wrote: > Is it possible to install freebsc on a pc running windows98 (2nd > edition) or windows NT. > See: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html#WINDOWS-COEXIST A more appropriate place for this is freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. freebsd-doc@freebsd.org exists as a forum for the discussion and development of documentation for FreeBSD rather than a place in which that documentation is administered. Thanks Dom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 18: 3: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D16637B406 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:03:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpratt@ezwv.com) Received: from k6-2.weeble.com (ip206102033139.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.33.139]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA32155 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:02:58 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Handbook addition: Install Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:03:06 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01081121030602.00381@k6-2.weeble.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I posted a mention of this in a different thread but thought that some may have missed it without an appropriate subject. My apologies for not changing the subject the first time. I've finished the planned additions to the Handbook for installing (Section 2). I've posted the entire Handbook build but only the following sections are involved: 2.2 Preparing For Installation (unmodified except for section title) 2.3 Pre-Installation (new) 2.4 Installation (new) 2.5 Post-installation (new) They are posted at: http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/view/ (html build) http://people.freebsd.org/~rpratt/hdbk/src/ (sources) I'll merge my additions into the latest chapter.sgml version before committing next week. This will still leave some time for more improvements before the 4.4 release. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 11 21:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9697B37B408 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.175]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010812042020.ZYMJ3707.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:20:20 +0000 Received: by worldnet.att.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9E6D551201; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 00:20:08 -0400 From: parv To: f-doc Subject: need help w/ markup or proofreading? Message-ID: <20010812002007.A94081@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: f-doc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org does anybody have any documentation projects which may need proofreading and/or some markup? about markup... i am not well aware about the docBook but html, however shouldn't be too hard to catsup ...er... catch up... in the mean time, i am looking over various related tutorials & things. i looked over the docBook "status" which didn't say anything about the above, everything seems to be taken care of... -- so, do you like word games or scrabble? - parv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message