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this was outputted when I did a startx after I added the device to the
kernal and compiled and rebooted.

'device /dev/dsp can't be opened (Device not configured)kdecore
(KLibLoader):'

thanks


justin

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just not supported.

This is what I get with a cat /dev/sndstat from root.
~~~~~~~~~
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Aug 19 2001 01:33:17
Installed devices:
pcm0: <CS461x PCM Audio> at irq 9 (1p/1r channels duplex)
~~~~~~~~~
i get no feedback from a :

 # cd /dev
 # sh MAKEDEV snd0

from root.
~~~~~~~~~~
my card is:
 Crystal CS4280 3D PCI Audio

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>Number:         29869
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [patch] how to get -STABLE by ftp
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       high
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Aug 19 03:30:04 PDT 2001
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Alex Kapranoff
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
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>Description:
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

The diff against /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge

--- chapter.sgml.orig	Sun Aug 19 13:09:59 2001
+++ chapter.sgml	Sun Aug 19 13:12:59 2001
@@ -195,7 +195,7 @@
 		  &os.current; is always <quote>exported</quote> on:
 		  <ulink
 		  url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/">ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/</ulink>.
-		  Our FTP server server also allows
+		  Our FTP server also allows
 		  compressed/tarred grabbing of whole trees.  e.g. you
 		  see:</para>
 
@@ -399,9 +399,9 @@
 		<para>Use <command>ftp</command>.  The source tree for
 		  &os.stable; is always <quote>exported</quote> on:
 		  <ulink
-		  url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/">ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/</ulink></para>
+		  url="ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/">ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/</ulink>.
 
-		<para>We also use <command>wu-ftpd</command> which allows
+		  Our FTP server also allows
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 		  see:</para>
 
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murray@stokely.org wrote:

> >=20
> > Removed XXX* and XXX
>=20
>   XXX is a convention we use to show that something needs to be
> written.  We can't just remove the XXX without adding several
> paragraphs of content.  This chapter needs a lot of work, hence the
> XXXs.
>=20

Ok.  I'll ignore them in future, thanks.

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>Number:         29872
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Confliciting references regarding bpf kernel option
>Confidential:   no
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>Date-Required:
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>Arrival-Date:   Sun Aug 19 07:00:06 PDT 2001
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dominic Marks
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
Student
>Environment:
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>Description:
	http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/networking.html#BPF-NOT-CONFIGURED
	
	This document states: 'pseudo-device bpfilter' is required in
	the kernel configuration. However bpf(4) states that the
	required line is: 'pseudo-device bpf' and this is supported by
	LINT. Its confusing to have multiple options, even if both of
	them work.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	books/faq/book.sgml
>Fix:
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	8876c8876
	<           <programlisting>pseudo-device bpfilter        # Berkeley Packet Filter</programlisting>
	---
	>           <programlisting>pseudo-device bpf        # Berkeley Packet Filter</programlisting>
	
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hi,

I have been looking for a printed version of the FreeBSD Developers' Handbook
but haven't find one.

A site like http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp
has a few printed versions but only those.
Fatbrain (http://www.fatbrain.com) recently made an agreement with
Apple to sell printed copies of some docs.
Maybe you guys ought to do something similar ?

best,

Geert


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>Number:         29874
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       minor corrections for config chapter
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
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>Originator:     Martin Heinen
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>Description:
	removed space from nameserver option in /etc/resolv.conf,
	completed sentence describing the search statement,
	changed numbers of logfiles when explaining newsyslog
	(logfile is rotated to logfile.0 first)
>How-To-Repeat:
	read the config chapter
>Fix:
Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.19
diff -u -r1.19 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	2001/08/16 18:35:01	1.19
+++ chapter.sgml	2001/08/19 15:23:55
@@ -548,14 +548,14 @@
 	  <tgroup cols="2">
 	    <tbody>
 	      <row>
-		<entry><literal>name server</literal></entry> 
+		<entry><literal>nameserver</literal></entry> 
 		<entry>The IP address of a name server the resolver
 		  should query.  The servers are queried in the order
 		  listed with a maximum of three.</entry>
 	      </row>
 	      <row>
 		<entry><literal>search</literal></entry>
-		<entry>Search list hostname lookup.  This is normally
+		<entry>Search list for hostname lookup.  This is normally
 		  determined by the domain of the local hostname.</entry>
 	      </row>
 	      <row>
@@ -696,8 +696,8 @@
 	  normally by &man.cron.8; &man.newsyslog.8; determines when log
 	  files require archiving or rearranging.
 	  <filename>logfile</filename> is moved to
-	  <filename>logfile.1</filename>, <filename>logfile.1</filename>
-	  is moved to <filename>logfile.2</filename>, and so on.
+	  <filename>logfile.0</filename>, <filename>logfile.0</filename>
+	  is moved to <filename>logfile.1</filename>, and so on.
 	  Additionally, the log files may be archived in &man.gzip.1; format
 	  causing them to be named: <filename>logfile.0.gz</filename>,
 	  <filename>logfile.1.gz</filename>, and so on.</para>
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Synopsis: Confliciting references regarding bpf kernel option

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Committed, thanks!

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I'm having problems with make in /usr/doc.

I've just rebuilt textproc/docproj, and then:

# cd /usr/doc
# make
[ ... ]
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:585:11:E:
end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:530:6:
start tag was here
*** Error code 1
[ ... ]

I get the samething for the handbook.

Not sure what to do. Couldn't find anything on the mailing lists. Last
cvsup was to-night, previous to that ~ 100 days ago so I might have
missed something in between.

Also, whats the difference between en_US.ISO8859-1 and
en_US.ISO_8859-1 ?

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 at 21:38:13 +0100, Harry Newton wrote:
> I'm having problems with make in /usr/doc.
> 
> I've just rebuilt textproc/docproj, and then:
> 
> # cd /usr/doc
> # make
> [ ... ]
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:585:11:E:
> end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:530:6:
> start tag was here
> *** Error code 1
> [ ... ]

Hmm.  I just tried building this after reading your message and it
completed without errors.

> I get the samething for the handbook.

Ditto here.

> Not sure what to do. Couldn't find anything on the mailing lists. Last
> cvsup was to-night, previous to that ~ 100 days ago so I might have
> missed something in between.

What cvsup server are you using?  Perhaps it's a little behind...

> Also, whats the difference between en_US.ISO8859-1 and
> en_US.ISO_8859-1 ?

en_US.ISO_8859-1 is no longer used.  All of the locale names were
changed to xx_XX.ISOXXXX-X a little while ago.

- jim

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I noticed a few minutes that make clean doesn't clean the png files in
the handbook's install directory, so instead of having a directory full
of .scr files, it's full of both .scr and .png files.  Unfortunately, I
don't have time to look into this right now, but thought I might as well
send a heads up in case someone else wants to fix it :-)

- jim

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Synopsis: minor corrections for config chapter

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The following reply was made to PR docs/29852; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To: Vladimir Tchoukharev <chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/29852: Two mistypings in fdp-primer 
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 16:56:30 -0700

 Vladimir Tchoukharev <chu@h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi> writes:
 > --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/doc-build/chapter.sgml.orig
 > 	Sat Aug 18 22:47:06 2001
 > +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/doc-build/chapter.sgml	Sat Aug
 >  18 22:47:13 2001
 > @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@
 >      </itemizedlist>
 >  
 >      <para><application>Make</application> syntax is quickly revised as
 > -      the we explore these types.</para>
 > +      then we explore these types.</para>
 
 I can't make sense out of this paragraph before or after the change.
 This document doesn't revise make(1) syntax!  Unless somebody can
 figure out what it's trying to say, I'm going to nuke it in a few
 days.  It doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose.
 
 >      <sect2 id="sub-make">
 >        <title>Subdirectory Makefiles</title>
 > --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website/chapter.sgml.orig
 > 	Sat Aug 18 22:43:17 2001
 > +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website/chapter.sgml
 > 	Sat Aug 18 22:43:27 2001
 > @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
 >  	  space.</para>
 >  	
 >  	<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mkdir /var/tmp/webbuild</userinput>
 > -&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /var/tmp/webuild</userinput></screen>
 > +&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /var/tmp/webbuild</userinput></screen>
 
 This I've fixed, thanks!

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Synopsis: Handbook Chapter 12 (Disks) minor changes

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The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To: Peter Avalos <pavalos@theshell.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented 
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:00:46 -0700

 Peter Avalos <pavalos@theshell.com> writes:
 > Index: make.conf.5
 > ===================================================================
 > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/make.conf.5,v
 > retrieving revision 1.25
 > diff -u -r1.25 make.conf.5
 > --- make.conf.5	2001/08/07 13:26:57	1.25
 > +++ make.conf.5	2001/08/16 01:33:50
 > @@ -760,7 +760,8 @@
 >  support will build without X11 support by default.
 >  .It Va WRKDIRPREFIX
 >  .Pq Vt str
 > -Where to create temporary files used when building ports.
 > +Specify where to create temporary files used when building ports.
 > +Do not set this to /usr/obj.
 >  .It Va X11BASE
 >  .Pq Vt str
 >  Should be set to where the X11 distribution has been
 
 It seems wrong to tell someone not to do something and not provide an
 explanation.

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if you, a friend, or a shop down the road have a printer you can just
download the .pdf file from www.freebsd.org and print it.  that way you'll
always have the latest release.  printed books are always behind their
online counterparts.


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> hi,
>
> I have been looking for a printed version of the FreeBSD Developers'
Handbook
> but haven't find one.
>
> A site like http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp
> has a few printed versions but only those.
> Fatbrain (http://www.fatbrain.com) recently made an agreement with
> Apple to sell printed copies of some docs.
> Maybe you guys ought to do something similar ?
>
> best,
>
> Geert



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Subject: RE: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented 
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:14:19 -0500

 > It seems wrong to tell someone not to do something and not 
 > provide an explanation.
 
 I was thinking the same thing, but I honestly don't know why this
 confuses make so much. Perhaps someone who can explain this would
 like to submit a better patch.
 

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On Sun, Aug 19, 2001 at 09:38:13PM +0100, Harry Newton wrote:
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/ar=
ticle.sgml:585:11:E:
> end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified

What version is the document?  Look for the $FreeBSD$ line in
article.sgml.

N
--=20
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
FreeBSD Documentation Project           http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/

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Hi
I havent seen any Swedish documentation so I was wondering if someone has
started translating or not... I'd like to help out.

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Hello all,

I started translating some docs to romanian. For this language
characters from both
the ISO 8879 Latin1 charset as well as the Latin2 charset are needed.

However after building the doc, only the chars from the Latin1 set are
translated into HTML entities.
The characters from the Latin2 set (namely &scedil; and &tcedil;) are
translated as "&amp;scedil;" and
"&amp;tcedil;" ...

What do I need to do, to get those characters translated too?

Thanks,
Kiki


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Synopsis: setsockopt(IPV6_BINDV6ONLY) not documented in any man pages

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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Discussed problem with itojun.  IPV6_BINDV6ONLY is a non-standard flag.  The
standard version (IPV6_V6ONLY) is also not documented.  He will look into
that in the KAME tree.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29380

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>if you, a friend, or a shop down the road have a printer you can just
>download the .pdf file from www.freebsd.org and print it.  that way you'll
>always have the latest release.  printed books are always behind their
>online counterparts.
I rather have a physical book which allows me to read it everywhere.
Book formats are usually more convenient that default paper size.
It's no co=EFncidence that fe: Apple explicitly got a partner to print these
docs dispite easy availability of the PDF's.
Same for so many Linux books.
It's just very appealing.

regards,

Geert


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If memory serves me right, Alex Kapranoff wrote:
> Good day, Bruce!

G'day Alex!

> There's a patch for relnotes I came up with while translating the
> document. Some hunks are just typos fixed, and some are arguable (e.g.
> FreeBSD => &os;). Please review and commit the bits you feel necessary.
> None of the changes are critical :)

These looked good to me, modulo one change below.

>      <para>A new digi driver has been added to support PCI Xr-based and ISA
> -    Xem Digiboard cards.  A new digictl program is (mainly) used to
> +    Xem Digiboard cards.  A new &man.digictl.8; program is (mainly) used to
>      re-initialise cards that have external port modules attached such as
>      the PC/Xem.</para>

To make this build, I needed to make a new entry in doc/share/sgml/
man-refs.ent to define the &man.digictl.8 entity.

After this, I committed all your changes and I'm pushing out a new 
version to my snapshot page now.

Thanks!

Bruce.



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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
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f - feedback
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     patch or a fix has been committed.  The PR remains in this state
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s - suspended
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     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
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c - closed
     A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
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Critical problems
Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2000/12/28] docs/23910  doc      Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)
o [2001/08/07] docs/29511  doc      Handbook missing some "Loader Built-In Co
o [2001/08/07] docs/29515  doc      Handbook references missing *.bat install
o [2001/08/07] docs/29534  doc      syscons(4), sc(4) reference non-existant 
o [2001/08/17] docs/29842  doc      Stilted language and improper puncuation 

7 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
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o [1999/04/07] docs/10997  doc      Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi
o [1999/08/07] docs/13020  doc      Manpage capitalization
o [1999/10/06] docs/14158  doc      md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a
o [1999/10/27] docs/14565  doc      ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp
o [2000/04/03] kern/17774  doc      stray irq7
o [2000/06/05] docs/19010  doc      Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented;
f [2000/07/17] docs/19981  doc      Indonesian translations
o [2000/08/04] docs/20400  doc      Building a kernel with debugging info sec
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
o [2000/08/20] docs/20738  doc      correction and modification to clocks(7)
o [2000/10/10] docs/21896  doc      Mini-HOWTO for stp driver
s [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2000/11/14] docs/22861  doc      newsyslog man page is misleading and inco
o [2000/12/11] docs/23488  doc      A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron
o [2000/12/14] docs/23559  doc      missing manpage for hsearch libc function
o [2001/01/02] docs/24035  doc      ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation
o [2001/01/26] docs/24662  doc      too many questions about source managemen
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/02/06] docs/24923  doc      4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio
o [2001/02/11] docs/25000  doc      matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong
o [2001/02/11] docs/25016  doc      symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no 
a [2001/02/20] docs/25239  doc      fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about 
o [2001/02/26] docs/25392  doc      Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu
o [2001/02/26] docs/25405  doc      misleading warning from catman(1), etc.
o [2001/02/27] docs/25420  doc      man page missing important information.
o [2001/02/27] docs/25437  doc      kernel configs are the only precious file
o [2001/03/10] docs/25657  doc      no netid(5) man page
o [2001/03/16] docs/25876  doc      typos in jail.2
o [2001/03/19] docs/25919  doc      supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou
o [2001/03/22] docs/26001  doc      typo in sched_get_priority_max.2
f [2001/03/22] docs/26003  doc      getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy
o [2001/03/22] docs/26006  doc      Changing zone(9) man page
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/04/08] docs/26451  doc      ctype.h defined functions are not accurat
o [2001/04/10] docs/26489  doc      incomplete info in the ppp faq about "PPP
o [2001/04/18] docs/26692  doc      boot manpage describes bootfile prompt in
o [2001/04/21] misc/26742  doc      misleading information in handbook
o [2001/04/25] docs/26861  doc      accept(2) manpage documents non-existant 
o [2001/05/02] docs/27027  doc      Update src/share/misc/iso639
o [2001/05/02] docs/27040  doc      rc(8) and syscons(4) talk about rc.conf.l
o [2001/05/08] docs/27209  doc      [PATCH] ascii.7 table rearrangement and u
o [2001/05/14] docs/27320  doc      excessively vague information in pppoe pa
o [2001/05/18] docs/27430  doc      Addition to the doc/sr_YU/articles tree
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/05/29] docs/27758  doc      ptrace(2) man page outdated
o [2001/06/02] docs/27833  doc      No man page for locate.rc
o [2001/06/02] docs/27843  doc      [PATCH] make.conf WITH_* variables aren't
o [2001/06/06] docs/27915  doc      man 5 passwd does not properly explain th
o [2001/06/09] docs/28000  doc      adding and changing information in vidcon
s [2001/06/14] docs/28144  doc      no manpage for host.conf, no xrefs in oth
o [2001/06/20] docs/28306  doc      docbook.css and OBJDIR
o [2001/06/30] docs/28555  doc      [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo
o [2001/07/03] docs/28679  doc      Images in handbook/advanced-networking mi
o [2001/07/04] docs/28699  doc      strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl
o [2001/07/13] docs/28949  doc      the mknod(8) man page stills refers to bl
o [2001/07/22] docs/29143  doc      List of man pages that need to be written
o [2001/07/23] docs/29182  doc      Handbook needs to be updated to reflect s
o [2001/07/25] docs/29216  doc      Updated the cvsup addresses for the UK
o [2001/07/26] docs/29245  doc      top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP
o [2001/08/03] docs/29410  doc      More about RELENG_4_3 in FAQ
o [2001/08/07] docs/29500  doc      Handbook uses obsolete "controller" and "
o [2001/08/07] docs/29505  doc      kbdmap(1) Bugs section is for wrong comma
o [2001/08/07] docs/29506  doc      kbdmap(1) doesn't explain that cmd is int
o [2001/08/07] docs/29517  doc      Handbook missing fast method of cleaning 
o [2001/08/07] docs/29522  doc      Handbook: A few changes related to cvsup 
o [2001/08/07] docs/29525  doc      hier(7) has sometimes-erroneous descripti
o [2001/08/07] docs/29531  doc      FreeBSD.org site's PR form doesn't match 
o [2001/08/09] docs/29560  doc      make buildkernel as described in the hand
o [2001/08/09] docs/29571  doc      [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct
o [2001/08/12] docs/29657  doc      NICE_HEADERS conflicts with authorgroup g
o [2001/08/15] docs/29740  doc      [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is 
o [2001/08/15] docs/29744  doc      [PATCH] SGML tags and entities in the "Di
o [2001/08/17] docs/29803  doc      Handbook section on KDM: update for KDE 2
o [2001/08/17] docs/29807  doc      [PATCH] XFREE86_VERSION is undocumented
o [2001/08/18] docs/29848  doc      Handbook Chapter 13 (Backups) minor chang
o [2001/08/18] docs/29852  doc      Two mistypings in fdp-primer
o [2001/08/19] docs/29869  doc      [patch] how to get -STABLE by ftp

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> I have been looking for a printed version of the FreeBSD Developers' Hand=
book
> but haven't find one.
>=20
> A site like http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp
> has a few printed versions but only those.

  The FreeBSD Developer's Handbook is nowhere near being polished
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"informal" techpubs company like fatbrain or iuniverse.com.  I'd
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> > A site like http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp
> > has a few printed versions but only those.
>   The FreeBSD Developer's Handbook is nowhere near being polished
>enough for publication in a printed form.  It's pretty bad even for an
>"informal" techpubs company like fatbrain or iuniverse.com.  I'd
>really like to see this book printed in 12-18 months, but there is a
>LOT of work to be done before its ready.  Please help us finish
>writing it!
Since I have close to nothing to write on this topic (because I'm rather a
learner), I'd like to be a proofreader.
Other assistance would be quality control, giving ideas and maybe helping 
layout.

Let me first make a quick sidestep :
----------------------
First of all, the Doc. project homepage 
(http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html)
and subsequent pages are uneasy to navigate.
A lot of scrolling could be avoided by creating a left side menu (without 
going into frames).
Also the content, while technically accurate, doesn't guide the reader as 
much as could be.
As an example take the submission page :
http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html

Lets take the first part of the pages :
I have written some documentation. How do I submit it?
Only in the second half there's the next part about changes to existing docs.
Make this choice right from the beginning.
First, thank you for taking the time to do this.

You should make your documentation available for review. If you can, put it 
on an FTP site or a website.

Then post a message to the -doc mailing list, with a brief outline of the 
documentation and the pointer to its location, and solicit feedback.
What's the URL ?  I can be simply inserted.
If, for some reason, you can not put the documentation up for FTP or on a 
web site somewhere you can send it directly to the -doc mailing list. If 
you do this, please only send plain text documents.
These lines should be put two lines up.

You should probably cc: this request for comments to other appropriate 
mailing lists. For example, something that relates to how to use CVSup to 
keep your source tree up to date would be of interest to the subscribers of 
the FreeBSD-current and FreeBSD-stable mailing lists.
Link to a page with these lists.
After people have looked over your documentation, and you have had the 
chance to incorporate any of their suggestions, you are ready to submit it.
Use a numbered list to more easily read the steps.

Next : IMHO, the main use of the main docproject page should be to explain 
to people with information how
they can submit this. For the more dedicated writers, more details on the 
format, styleguide, ... .
The menu should be something like
- How to submit documentation/changes
- Volunteer
- About the doc project

Not much more.
Then gradually, more details on the format, etc. can be prevailed.
One time submitters shouldn't be scared away with an SGML overdose.

It's about guiding the donator. :-)

One never gets the impression the documentation project is 'living'.

-----------------------

About the developers book.
The biggest part will probably be to get the content filled.
Maybe it's kinda big undertaking but IMHO, best would be if A LOT of
the FBSD developers overlooked or read the current version (again).
Just proofreading is already worth a lot.

Geert
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<html>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&gt; A site like
<a href="http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp" eudora="autourl">http://www.iuniverse.com/marketplace/default.asp</a><br>
&gt; has a few printed versions but only those.<br>
&nbsp; The FreeBSD Developer's Handbook is nowhere near being
polished<br>
enough for publication in a printed form.&nbsp; It's pretty bad even for
an<br>
&quot;informal&quot; techpubs company like fatbrain or
iuniverse.com.&nbsp; I'd<br>
really like to see this book printed in 12-18 months, but there is 
a<br>
LOT of work to be done before its ready.&nbsp; Please help us 
finish<br>
writing it!</blockquote>Since I have close to nothing to write on this
topic (because I'm rather a<br>
learner), I'd like to be a proofreader.<br>
Other assistance would be quality control, giving ideas and maybe helping
layout.<br><br>
Let me first make a quick sidestep :<br>
----------------------<br>
First of all, the Doc. project homepage
(<a href="http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html</a>)<br>
and subsequent pages are uneasy to navigate.<br>
A lot of scrolling could be avoided by creating a left side menu (without
going into frames).<br>
Also the content, while technically accurate, doesn't guide the reader as
much as could be.<br>
As an example take the submission page :<br>
<a href="http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html" eudora="autourl">http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html</a><br><br>
Lets take the first part of the pages :<br>
<font size=5><b>I have written some documentation. How do I submit
it?<br>
</b></font><font color="#0000FF"><i>Only in the second half there's the
next part about changes to existing docs.<br>
Make this choice right from the beginning.<br>
</i></font>First, thank you for taking the time to do this.<br><br>
You should make your documentation available for review. If you can, put
it on an FTP site or a website.<br><br>
Then post a message to the -doc mailing list, with a brief outline of the
documentation and the pointer to its location, and solicit 
feedback.<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><i>What's the URL ?&nbsp; I can be simply
inserted.<br>
</i></font>If, for some reason, you can not put the documentation up for
FTP or on a web site somewhere you can send it directly to the -doc
mailing list. If you do this, please only send plain text 
documents.<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><i>These lines should be put two lines 
up.<br><br>
</i></font>You should probably cc: this request for comments to other
appropriate mailing lists. For example, something that relates to how to
use CVSup to keep your source tree up to date would be of interest to the
subscribers of the <font face="Courier New, Courier">FreeBSD-current and
FreeBSD-stable mailing lists.<br>
</font><font face="Courier New, Courier" color="#0000FF"><i>Link to a
page with these lists.<br>
</i></font>After people have looked over your documentation, and you have
had the chance to incorporate any of their suggestions, you are ready to
submit it.<br>
<font color="#0000FF"><i>Use a numbered list to more easily read the
steps.<br><br>
</i></font>Next : IMHO, the main use of the main docproject page should
be to explain to people with information how<br>
they can submit this. For the more dedicated writers, more details on the
format, styleguide, ... .<br>
The menu should be something like <br>
- How to submit documentation/changes<br>
- Volunteer<br>
- About the doc project<br><br>
Not much more.<br>
Then gradually, more details on the format, etc. can be prevailed.<br>
One time submitters shouldn't be scared away with an SGML
overdose.<br><br>
It's about guiding the donator. :-)<br><br>
One never gets the impression the documentation project is
'living'.<br><br>
-----------------------<br><br>
About the developers book.<br>
The biggest part will probably be to get the content filled.<br>
Maybe it's kinda big undertaking but IMHO, best would be if A LOT 
of<br>
the FBSD developers overlooked or read the current version (again).<br>
Just proofreading is already worth a lot.<br><br>
Geert</html>

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Hey,

    Aren't the Y2K references (in the handbook, the FAQ and the FreeBSD
website) obselete?

I am still alive and my system is ok after a year and a half. Can we get
over that?

Regards,

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>Number:         29912
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Simple typo in book.sgml (FAQ) (will send a big patch later, if other bugs are found)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Aug 20 16:00:14 PDT 2001
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>Description:
Simply typo in the FAQ main file book.sgml.
>How-To-Repeat:
Read it? 
>Fix:
doc@idem% diff -u book.sgml book.sgml.fix
--- book.sgml   Sun Aug 19 14:51:53 2001
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@@ -443,7 +443,7 @@
         <answer>
           <para>You can find full information in the <ulink
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-            entry on mailing-lists.</ulink></para>
+            entry on mailing-lists</ulink>.</para>
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 at 18:56:53 -0400, Felix-Antoine Paradis wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Aren't the Y2K references (in the handbook, the FAQ and the FreeBSD
> website) obselete?

Most likely, and it would be extremely useful if you could at least
point them out (if you don't want to send a diff).

- jim

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From owner-freebsd-doc  Mon Aug 20 18:56:36 2001
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I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed. After
manuallying installing eps2png the build appears to run fine.
Not real familiar with the build process on this, but I didn't see
anything in the docproj primer about installing eps2png and it doesn't
seem to get installed automagically during the build of a release.
If I'm missing something that I should be doing, let me know, I just
thought I'd point this out in case it was a problem that nobody was
aware of.

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Hey,

    Here is a patch. But, while doing this patch, I was wondering if the
presence of the y2k.sgml page is used for historical/educative purposes or
was created for telling people that FreeBSD is Y2K compliant?

Any comments?

Please, if you can wait for feedbacks before committing this.

Regards,

F=E9lix-Antoine Paradis
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 at 21:56:55 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
> dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed. After
> manuallying installing eps2png the build appears to run fine.
> Not real familiar with the build process on this, but I didn't see
> anything in the docproj primer about installing eps2png and it doesn't
> seem to get installed automagically during the build of a release.
> If I'm missing something that I should be doing, let me know, I just
> thought I'd point this out in case it was a problem that nobody was
> aware of.

Yes, it has for a while.  Chances are your docproj port is out of date.

- jim

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Synopsis: Manpage capitalization

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This is a known issue, and is likely to be addressed globally
in the near future.

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Jim Mock wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 at 21:56:55 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
> > dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed. After
> > manuallying installing eps2png the build appears to run fine.
> > Not real familiar with the build process on this, but I didn't see
> > anything in the docproj primer about installing eps2png and it doesn't
> > seem to get installed automagically during the build of a release.
> > If I'm missing something that I should be doing, let me know, I just
> > thought I'd point this out in case it was a problem that nobody was
> > aware of.
> 
> Yes, it has for a while.  Chances are your docproj port is out of date.

Hmmm ... just cvsupped my ports last week. But I guess things could
be changing quickly with 4.4 on the horizon.

-Bill

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Synopsis: newsyslog man page is misleading and incomplete

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Dima fixed a part of the PR in newsyslog.8,v 1.28.

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These interfaces got documented on 2001/05/15 in 5.0-CURRENT,
along with the new implementation borrowed from NetBSD.
The MFC is underways some time after a 4.4-RELEASE is out.


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Synopsis: symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no owners

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The suggested fix is also wrong because FreeBSD 3.0 and above
support access mode on a symbolic link with the lchmod(2) call.
In FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT, chmod(1) utility can be used to change
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I will work on fixing the docs.

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Over to the catman(1) maintainer to decide whether it should bail out
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I'm running the most recent version of all the docproj ports, as well as 
having just cvsupped the doc-all tree, and yet I have been getting the 
following errors for about the past month or so:

===> en_US.ISO8859-1
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha
/usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks  -c 
/usr/src/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c 
/usr/src/doc/share/sgml/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c 
/usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog 
-c 
/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog 
-c 
/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog 
-d 
/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl 
-t sgml /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/article.sgml > 
article.html || (rm -f article.html && false)
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:62:13:E: 
general entity "man.nmdm.4" not defined and no default entity
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:138:17:E: 
general entity "man.txp.4" not defined and no default entity
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:191:18:E: 
element "PORT" undefined
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:222:36:E: 
general entity "man.ispppcontrol.8" not defined and no default entity
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:628:40:E: 
element "PORT" undefined
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:629:13:E: 
element "PORT" undefined
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/release/doc.

Is this a problem with the Alpha docs exclusively or something larger?  If
I'm dumb and this has already been answered somewhere, please let me know
:)

Cheers - Erick

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If memory serves me right, Erick Mechler wrote:

> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:62:13:E: 
> general entity "man.nmdm.4" not defined and no default entity
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:138:17:E: 
> general entity "man.txp.4" not defined and no default entity
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:191:18:E: 
> element "PORT" undefined
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:222:36:E: 
> general entity "man.ispppcontrol.8" not defined and no default entity
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:628:40:E: 
> element "PORT" undefined
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../co
> mmon/../common/new.sgml:629:13:E: 
> element "PORT" undefined

I know you can't have been getting *all* of these errors for the past
month, because some of them refer to text I committed just a few days
ago.  :-)

You said that you cvsup-ed the doc-all collection, but every one of
the errors above could be caused by having a doc/ tree that was out of 
date.  Is it possible that your cvsup is putting the updated doc/ tree 
somewhere *other* than where the RELNOTESng build process is looking 
for it?

Are you setting the DOC_PREFIX Makefile variable when you do the build,
and if so, what is it set to?  Has RELNOTESng ever built correctly for 
you?

Bruce.





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:: I know you can't have been getting *all* of these errors for the past
:: month, because some of them refer to text I committed just a few days
:: ago.  :-)

Uh, well, okay, you got me...  The one that's been around for the longest
is the error about man.nmdm.4; man.txp.4 is running a close second.

:: You said that you cvsup-ed the doc-all collection, but every one of
:: the errors above could be caused by having a doc/ tree that was out of 
:: date.  Is it possible that your cvsup is putting the updated doc/ tree 
:: somewhere *other* than where the RELNOTESng build process is looking 
:: for it?

That's it.  I was using the wrong DOC_PREFIX (or rather, the wrong
supfile).  Thanks for the quick response!

Thanks - Erick

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 at 07:47:29 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> Jim Mock wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 at 21:56:55 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
> > > dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed. After
> > > manuallying installing eps2png the build appears to run fine.
> > > Not real familiar with the build process on this, but I didn't see
> > > anything in the docproj primer about installing eps2png and it doesn't
> > > seem to get installed automagically during the build of a release.
> > > If I'm missing something that I should be doing, let me know, I just
> > > thought I'd point this out in case it was a problem that nobody was
> > > aware of.
> > 
> > Yes, it has for a while.  Chances are your docproj port is out of date.
> 
> Hmmm ... just cvsupped my ports last week. But I guess things could
> be changing quickly with 4.4 on the horizon.

Err, actually, I'm smoking crack.  eps2png was originally added on
February 20th...

   revision 1.25
   date: 2001/02/20 19:15:50;  author: nik;  state: Exp;  lines: +4 -2
   Add graphics/eps2png and graphics/netpbm as dependencies.  These are
   required in order to process the graphics.

However, it was removed and replaced with peps on July 13th...

   revision 1.29
   date: 2001/07/13 12:09:12;  author: nik;  state: Exp;  lines: +3 -3
   Depend on peps instead of eps2png -- peps produces better output (inc.
   anti-aliasing) than eps2png.  Bump PORTREVISION accordingly.

How old is your doc tree?  It shouldn't even be using eps2png anymore,
but peps instead.

- jim

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 at 00:35:13 -0400, Felix-Antoine Paradis wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Here is a patch. But, while doing this patch, I was wondering if the
> presence of the y2k.sgml page is used for historical/educative
> purposes or was created for telling people that FreeBSD is Y2K
> compliant?

I think it probably disappear.  We're well past Y2K and any impact it
may have had.  If nobody else complains, I'll commit this tomorrow.

- jim

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I had the same problem when I tried to build the handbook a little while
back. It turned out to be for the better because I could go ahead and fix
all the errors that no one else noticed because I guess the sgml processor
doesn't worry too much about close para tags, but for some reason now
does.

Anyway, I'm also getting the same errors in the formatting-media article.
I'll fix them all and then it will not even be an issue.

Unless someone knows what's going on here?

-val

On 19 Aug 2001, Harry Newton wrote:

> I'm having problems with make in /usr/doc.
>
> I've just rebuilt textproc/docproj, and then:
>
> # cd /usr/doc
> # make
> [ ... ]
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:585:11:E:
> end tag for "PARA" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/formatting-media/article.sgml:530:6:
> start tag was here
> *** Error code 1
> [ ... ]
>
> I get the samething for the handbook.
>
> Not sure what to do. Couldn't find anything on the mailing lists. Last
> cvsup was to-night, previous to that ~ 100 days ago so I might have
> missed something in between.
>
> Also, whats the difference between en_US.ISO8859-1 and
> en_US.ISO_8859-1 ?
>
> Regards, Harry
>
> --
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> I had the same problem when I tried to build the handbook a little
> while back. It turned out to be for the better because I could go
> ahead and fix all the errors that no one else noticed because I guess
> the sgml processor doesn't worry too much about close para tags, but
> for some reason now does.
> 
> Anyway, I'm also getting the same errors in the formatting-media
> article.  I'll fix them all and then it will not even be an issue.
> 
> Unless someone knows what's going on here?

Harry replied to me privately and said it was because his copy of the
dsssl-docbook-modular port was out of date.  Once he upgraded, he said
it built fine.

- jim

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 at 17:25:12 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> Jim Mock wrote:
> > > Hmmm ... just cvsupped my ports last week. But I guess things
> > > could be changing quickly with 4.4 on the horizon.
> > 
> > Err, actually, I'm smoking crack.  eps2png was originally added on
> > February 20th...
> 
> Well quit that - it'll fry your brain - haven't you seen the
> commercials?

Yeah.  They need Nik on there saying "the doc project is my
anti-drug"... or something.

> > How old is your doc tree?  It shouldn't even be using eps2png
> > anymore, but peps instead.
> 
> I'm guessing that's probably my error. I've been assuming that the
> docs get updated with the rest of the system. That's not true is it?
> In that case - I have no idea how old my docs are ;) I'll cvsup the
> docs specifically as soon as I have time.

Yep.  That would be the problem :-)

- jim

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Hey all,

  The 'disks' and 'backups' chapters of the FreeBSD Handbook are in
desperate need of some loving.  Both chapters need a standard synopsis
like the Sound chapter.  The backups chapter is very short and
includes information about some tape technologies but not others (out
of scope?).  Maybe this chapter should be moved in with another one?

  I think that we should also start to talk about some 5.x features
in the disks chapter, such as using mdconfig instead of vnconfig.  The
disks chapter should also talk about logical volume management on
FreeBSD with ccd, vinum, and maybe even some of the hardware raid
device drivers' management utilities.

  Any takers?

  - Murray

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>Number:         29935
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       doc update for share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
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>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Aug 21 15:20:03 PDT 2001
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>Description:
Trivial update to share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README
>How-To-Repeat:
n/a
>Fix:
--- share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README.orig  Sat Aug  5 14:35:28 2000
+++ share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README  Tue Aug 21 12:52:41 2001
@@ -37,6 +37,8 @@
     doc/nl_*
     doc/ru
     doc/ru_*
+    doc/sr
+    doc/sr_*
     doc/zh
     doc/zh_*
     ports/chinese
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Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> Jim Mock wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 at 21:56:55 -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
> > > dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed. After
> > > manuallying installing eps2png the build appears to run fine.
> > > Not real familiar with the build process on this, but I didn't see
> > > anything in the docproj primer about installing eps2png and it doesn't
> > > seem to get installed automagically during the build of a release.
> > > If I'm missing something that I should be doing, let me know, I just
> > > thought I'd point this out in case it was a problem that nobody was
> > > aware of.
> >
> > Yes, it has for a while.  Chances are your docproj port is out of date.
> 
> Hmmm ... just cvsupped my ports last week. But I guess things could
> be changing quickly with 4.4 on the horizon.

They have a new port call portupgrade. One of its modules is portsdb and you
need to run it after every cvsup of ports-all. The options are portsdb -uU.

Kent

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> -Bill
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On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 09:56:55PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> I'm trying to make a release and it appears that the build process
> dies while making the docs because eps2png is not installed.=20

It shouldn't do.  We now use "peps" to convert EPS files to PNG.
Anything using eps2png is a bug, and needs to be fixed.

peps should be installed automatically if you have installed the
textproc/docproj port.

Note that the docproj port changes periodically, as the toolchain
changes.  The current version is 1.8.  If you do not have 1.8 installed
you should pkg_delete it and then

    cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj
    make install

to ensure that you have the dependencies up to date.  Dependency changes
will also be listed in the Makefile changelog, which can be viewed at

    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/textproc/docproj/Makefile

N
--=20
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve             http://www.freebsd.org/
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>Number:         29942
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       missing man page
>Confidential:   yes
>Severity:       serious
>Priority:       medium
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>State:          open
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>Description:
       the hash functions--hcreate,hsearch,hdestroy--don't have manpages.
>How-To-Repeat:
	N/A
>Fix:
     Swipe it from NetBSD.
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Synopsis: doc update for share/examples/cvsup/refuse.README

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Committed, thanks!

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Murray Stokely <murray.stokely@windriver.com> writes:
>   I think that we should also start to talk about some 5.x features
> in the disks chapter, such as using mdconfig instead of vnconfig.

I was under the impression that we didn't want to write about things
that people couldn't get in anything that we would consider `release
quality'.  (The new md(4) (and mdconfig(8)) will (should) not be MFC'd
to RELENG_4 because they're incompatible with what's already there.)
If this isn't the case, I'll gladly write up something about the new
md(4) features; I was planning to do that when 5.0 hit -RELEASE,
anyway.

> The
> disks chapter should also talk about logical volume management on
> FreeBSD with ccd, vinum,

Greg Lehey (vinum maintainer) is a competent writer.  Perhaps somebody
can try to get him to write something about it?

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Synopsis: missing man page

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I'll import the NetBSD manual page in a few days unless I hear objections.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29942

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:46:48PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> I was under the impression that we didn't want to write about things
> that people couldn't get in anything that we would consider `release
> quality'.  (The new md(4) (and mdconfig(8)) will (should) not be MFC'd
> to RELENG_4 because they're incompatible with what's already there.)
> If this isn't the case, I'll gladly write up something about the new
> md(4) features; I was planning to do that when 5.0 hit -RELEASE,
> anyway.

  We reference many things about 5.x already (a couple of notes on
devfs, some stuff in the l10n chapter, etc.).  For the printed edition,
that I'm obviously biased towards enhancing, we most definitely want to
cover 5.x as best as possible.  I don't think there is any harm in
covering 5.x features in the online copy of the Handbook either.  If
you disagree, then we can always conditionally exclude your mdconfig
additions behind a parameter entity like %not.published;

> Greg Lehey (vinum maintainer) is a competent writer.  Perhaps somebody
> can try to get him to write something about it?

  I emailed him a few weeks ago and he pointed me to some excellent
docs he's already written on the subject.  I should follow up to see
if he'll donate any to the doc project (ie, give up the copyright).

   - Murray

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  It seems silly to rely on a person to manually update a PGP keyring
now that all of the key data is clearly marked up in <programlisting
role=3D"pgpkey">.  I've just written a little hack that uses
pgpkeys/chapter.sgml and generates a keyring that can easily be
imported into gpg.  Any comments?  Can we integrate this with the doc
or web build to automatically update the the keyring referenced from
the top of the PGP Keys appendix?

    - Murray

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With i4b 1.00 MFC'd to stable and now having identical packages in both
current and stable, i have updated to i4b handbook to include all the
new features.

The HTML version can be found at 

	http://people.freebsd.org/~hm/i4b-1001/index.html

and the postscript version at

	http://people.freebsd.org/~hm/docs/i4b-1001.ps.gz

This text was produced using LyX (a LateX wysiwyg frontend), the pictures
were produced using xfig and converted to EPS.

In case there is any interest from the -doc group to get this into the
handbook i'm willing to help as much as i can (there is possibly not much
i can do due to the fact that i have only a very limited amount of time 
available and second that i have not even the slightest idea about the 
format and tools you use to produce the handbook so i will not try / be
able to do it myself).

hellmuth
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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 11:34:54PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   I emailed him a few weeks ago and he pointed me to some excellent
> docs he's already written on the subject.  I should follow up to see
> if he'll donate any to the doc project (ie, give up the copyright).

In re this (and our other copyright discussions) I think we've been a
bit confused.

I'm now not sure that we need copyright assignment to the Foundation.
What we do need is license clarification, so that all the content is
under the same license.  The copyright on individual chunks of text can
be held by the original authors, as it already is.

N
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Nik Clayton said on Aug 22, 2001 at 14:53:50:
> In re this (and our other copyright discussions) I think we've been a
> bit confused.
> 
> I'm now not sure that we need copyright assignment to the Foundation.
> What we do need is license clarification, so that all the content is
> under the same license.  The copyright on individual chunks of text can
> be held by the original authors, as it already is.

I personally think copyright assignment is a good idea, because people
may contribute large chunks of text to existing text, and it's
difficult to keep track of who has copyright to what, should such an
issue crop up.

For example, two of the handbook sections
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html
and
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
were started before I became interested, but in present form, the
major parts were written by me (going by word count).  That is not clear
to a reader of the handbook.  Now I don't care at all about the
copyright of these particular writings of mine.  But if some people do 
care about copyrights to handbook contributions, it seems to me it would be
hard to disentangle different peoples' contributions.  If nobody
cares, I don't see why not just ask everyone to assign copyrights
to the foundation.  These things matter only in the case of ownership
disputes, but in such cases, doesn't it make it easier if one entity
holds the entire copyright?

Just my 0.02 euro

R

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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Bitch</font><font size="-1"><b><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Hope</font><font size="-1"><b><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Sex Bomb</font><font size="-1"><b><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Dragon 1</font><font size="-1"><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Love Beer</font><font size="-1"><br>
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      <td valign="Top"><img src="cid:part10.02080806.06080702@netscape.com" alt="Picture of eyes" width="72" height="14" hspace="4" vspace="4" border="0">
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      <td valign="Top"><img src="cid:part11.01090202.09050103@netscape.com" alt="Picture of Trust" width="72" height="14" hspace="4" vspace="4" border="0">
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      <td valign="Top"><a href="http://www.mobiledirect.uk.com"><img src="cid:part12.02050508.04050709@netscape.com" alt="Picture ot rizla" width="72" height="14" hspace="4" vspace="4" border="0">
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      <td valign="Top"><img src="cid:part13.04030204.08000906@netscape.com" alt="Picture of Simpsons" width="72" height="14" hspace="4" vspace="4" border="0">
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">fcuk</font><font size="-1"><br>
      </font><font size="-1"><b><font>21951</font></b></font><font size="-1"><b><font><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Loving Eyes </font><b><font size="-1">
     20142</font></b><font size="-1"><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Trust No One </font><b><font size="-1">
     20409</font></b><b><font size="-1"><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">Rizla</font><font size="-1"><br>
      </font><b><font size="-1">21256</font></b><font size="-1">&nbsp;</font><font size="-1"><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font size="-1">The Simpsons </font><b><font size="-1">
     20399</font></b><br>
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<font size="+1" color="#ff0000">Call Now ON &nbsp;<font size="+2">"<b>0906   
 400 2144</b>"</font></font><br>
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<font size="-1" face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><strong><em><font color="#993300"><font><font>
     Quote the 5 digit number and your logo / Ringtone will be sent immediately!!</font></font><br>
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     For many more please visit <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.mobiledirect.uk.com">
   www.mobiledirect.uk.com</a>
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<strong><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><b><font color="#3333ff">
     Get Your Mobile Rocking with these great Ringtones!!!</font></b></font><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font color="#ffffff"><b>Code</b></font><br>
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      <div align="Center"><font color="#ffffff"><b>Listen</b></font><br>
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>Baha Men - Who let the dogs  out</b><br>
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      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>10138</b></div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/10138.mid"><b><img src="cid:part17.01090907.02010402@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" align="Center" border="0">
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>Bob the Builder - Can We Fix  It?</b><br>
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      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>11107</b><br>
      </div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/11107.mid"><b><img src="cid:part18.07000004.09010504@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" border="0">
      </b></a>
      </div>
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>Shaggy Feat Rikrok - It Wasn't  Me</b><br>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>11762</b><br>
      </div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/11762.mid"><b><img src="cid:part19.06030202.06070702@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" border="0">
      </b></a>
      </div>
      </td>
    </tr>
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>The Simpsons</b><br>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>10009</b><br>
      </div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/10009.mid"><b><img src="cid:part20.07030306.00080307@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" border="0">
      </b></a>
      </div>
      </td>
    </tr>
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>James Bond Theme</b><br>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>10000</b><br>
      </div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/10000.mid"><b><img src="cid:part21.04060404.09030307@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" border="0">
      </b></a>
      </div>
      </td>
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      <td valign="Top" width="300"><b>Star Wars Imperial March</b><br>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><b>10085</b><br>
      </div>
      </td>
      <td valign="Top">
      <div align="Center"><a href="http://www.itouch.co.uk/smsrp/ringtones/10085.mid"><b><img src="cid:part22.08030300.00060507@netscape.com" alt="Speaker" width="16" height="22" border="0">
      </b></a>
      </div>
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<div align="Justify"><font size="-1">Please note: the call costs &pound;1.50  
per minute and the average call length is 2 minutes. Please ask bill payer
  for permission. Calls from mobiles cost more depending on service. The
following   phones receive both logos and tones - Nokia 3210, 3310,6090,
6110, 6130,  6150, 6210, 6250, 7110, 8110i, 8210, 8810, 8850, 9000i and 9110.
Nokia models:  402 and 51XX receive logos only. Motorola T250, T2288, V50,
V100, V2288, V8088 receive ring tones only. Please make sure that your mobile
is listed here before ordering. Mobile Direct reserves the right not to refund
your money if your phone is not listed here. If you experience any problem,
call Customer Service on 0800 015 1175. Orders normally sent immediately,
depending on network.</font><br>
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<font color="#3333ff" size="-1">For hundreds more ringtones and logos just
    click on to </font><font color="#cc0000" size="-1"><a href="http://www.mobiledirect.uk.com"><font><font>
     www.mobiledirect.uk.com</font></font></a>
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    it on the notice board</font>
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If memory serves me right, Murray Stokely wrote:

>   I certainly think the excellent screenshots are worth the bloat at
> almost any cost, but is there some way we can optimize our .scr ->
> .eps conversion so that users can once again actually download the PDF
> / PostScript versions from the FTP site?

Yow!

OK, it looks like the PS to PDF conversion shrinks the file down to
something which, while still hefty, is at least manageable.  From my
last Handboook build of last week:

nimitz:handbook% ls -ls book.{ps,pdf}
  5456 -rw-r--r--  1 bmah  bmah   5576031 Aug 16 14:53 book.pdf
 89576 -rw-r--r--  1 bmah  bmah  91664873 Aug 16 14:53 book.ps

Wish I had some ideas on this one.  I agree with you that we really
really really want to keep the screenshots.

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There's already a section on running a chroot named in the Advanced 
Networking/DNS/Running named in a sandbox section.  Take a look at 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dns.html#NAMED-SANDBOX

If you have any suggestions as to updating/enhancing its content, feel free 
to do so and submit a unified diff.  Or if you don't want to bother messing 
with DocBook, make the text changes and submit it to me.

Thanks for the input.

- chern

At 12:25 PM 8/17/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>I had meant to cc this to -doc (just posted to -questions).
>
>         Original mail :
>
>I've been fighting with setting up named to run in a sandbox on FreeBSD
>this morning and I've found that it's non-trivial on FreeBSD.
>Yes, you can get there if you know which manpages to read, but I'm
>thinking of new users here.
>
>This is what I've had to do so far :
>
>1) /etc/namedb is not populated with var/run, var/tmp, dev/null by default.
>
>2) I have also had to add ``-l /etc/namedb/dev/log" to syslogd_flags - this
>    isn't suggested in the Handbook.
>
>3) I've had to compile a static copy of named-xfer to install in /etc/namedb -
>    this also is not documented in the Handbook (it's not even suggested that
>    you'll need a copy in the sandbox).
>    I'm also concerned that I'll need to do this now everytime a change is
>    made to the source tree in src/contrib/bind.
>
>4) I don't like the fact that it's in /etc by default.
>    Assume I was secondarying several thousand zones - space on / is an issue.
>    (Yes, I know I can change this).
>
>I think at least that the Handbook needs to be looked at (I'm willing to do
>this but it'll be in ascii as I'm still learning DocBook and will take a few
>days as I have visitors this weekend).
>
>Also, I think the entire issue of running named in a chroot environment needs
>to be made easier - setting this up on OpenBSD _is_ trivial.
>
>I feel I've only been able to get this successfully set up because I've done
>it before on other systems - it would be good if this could be made easier in
>the way that OpenBSD have achieved this.
>I'm not necessarily suggesting that named is run in a chroot environment by
>default, but setting it up to do so could be made a lot easier.
>
>Any comments are welcome (even if they're just ``Stop moaning'').
>
>Ceri
>
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On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 02:34:34PM -0700, Chern Lee said:
> There's already a section on running a chroot named in the Advanced 
> Networking/DNS/Running named in a sandbox section.  Take a look at 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/dns.html#NAMED-SANDBOX

Yeah, that's the section I'm talking about.
It's missing a few steps.

> If you have any suggestions as to updating/enhancing its content, feel free 
> to do so and submit a unified diff.  Or if you don't want to bother messing 
> with DocBook, make the text changes and submit it to me.

I'll get something to you for review early next week.

Thanks,

Ceri

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>Number:         29984
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       random(4) manpage has typo
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Aug 23 02:50:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Joseph Mallett
>Release:        4.4-RC
>Organization:
xMach
>Environment:
NA
>Description:
random(4) manpage has the expression "worst case" in it, yet it is written as "worse case". It is common for people to pronounce it this way, yet as far as I know, the expression is 'worst case' as in 'worse case scenario' and 'in the worst case'. A patch is attached.
>How-To-Repeat:
man 4 random
>Fix:
Aphex% diff -u random.orig random.4
--- random.orig Thu Aug 23 09:47:24 2001
+++ random.4    Thu Aug 23 09:47:41 2001
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@
 and thus have some success in guessing the output of the routine.
 Phil Karn (who devised this mechanism of using MD5 plus a counter
 to extract random numbers from an entropy pool) calls this
-"practical randomness", since in the worse case this is equivalent
+"practical randomness", since in the worst case this is equivalent
 to hashing MD5 with a counter and an undisclosed secret.  If MD5 is
 a strong cryptographic hash, this should be fairly resistant to attack.
 .Ss Exported interfaces \(em output

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Bruce A. Mah said on Aug 22, 2001 at 14:12:56:
> >   I certainly think the excellent screenshots are worth the bloat at
> > almost any cost, but is there some way we can optimize our .scr ->
> > .eps conversion so that users can once again actually download the PDF
> > / PostScript versions from the FTP site?
> 
> Yow!
> 
> OK, it looks like the PS to PDF conversion shrinks the file down to
> something which, while still hefty, is at least manageable.  From my
> last Handboook build of last week:
> 
> nimitz:handbook% ls -ls book.{ps,pdf}
>   5456 -rw-r--r--  1 bmah  bmah   5576031 Aug 16 14:53 book.pdf
>  89576 -rw-r--r--  1 bmah  bmah  91664873 Aug 16 14:53 book.ps
> 
> Wish I had some ideas on this one.  I agree with you that we really
> really really want to keep the screenshots.

I found a script on the web called png2eps which seems to do a
good job of creating a small (bitmap) eps file.  
http://mmewww.mw.tu-dresden.de/~henlich/png2eps
I used the "packbits" compression option; lzw doesn't seem to work
(probably disabled in libtiff) due to patent issues.   For a sample
png screenshot, I get file sizes

-rw-r--r--  1 rsidd  users  38052 Aug 23 12:08 console-saver1.eps
-rw-r--r--  1 rsidd  users   5181 Aug 23 12:03 console-saver1.png

This looks acceptable to me.  I don't know whether the resulting eps
is publication quality but it's perfectly legible, should do fine for
people who just want to download the thing and print a personal copy.

- Rahul

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>Number:         29985
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       manpages in section 4 have typos in license and a common spelling mistake
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Aug 23 03:30:00 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Joseph Mallett
>Release:        4.4-RC
>Organization:
xMach
>Environment:
NA
>Description:
Numerous manpages in section 4 have 'without' mis-spelled as 'withough' in the license, also, 'relabeled' is mispelled as 'relabelled' (dictionary.com, dict, and ispell all say relabeled is proper), as weill as 'queuing' being mispelled as 'queueing'. Additionaly, one occurance of the word 'linux' (not a reference to linux(4), but referencing to Linux) should have been capitalised as 'Linux' as is apparently the consistent style. A unified diff is included.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:

--- aac.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:06:12 2001
+++ aac.4	Thu Aug 23 10:07:28 2001
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@
 These controllers support RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, and volume sets.
 They have four channels in the add-in version
 or 1-2 channels in the motherboard integrated version,
-and are most often found relabelled by Dell or Hewlett-Packard.
+and are most often found relabeled by Dell or Hewlett-Packard.
 Supported controllers include:
 .Bl -bullet
 .It
@@ -88,7 +88,7 @@
 interface for the management device.
 The
 .Xr ioctl 2
-command set is heavily tailored to existing linux applications.
+command set is heavily tailored to existing Linux applications.
 Native
 .Xr ioctl 2
 support is not present at this time.
--- adv.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:08:04 2001
+++ adv.4	Thu Aug 23 10:09:20 2001
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 .\" 2. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission.
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
@@ -144,7 +144,7 @@
 menu, which is accessible at boot,
 is honored by this driver.
 This includes synchronous/asynchronous transfers,
-maximum synchronous negotiation rate, disconnection, tagged queueing,
+maximum synchronous negotiation rate, disconnection, tagged queuing,
 and the host adapter's SCSI ID.
 The global setting for the maximum number of tagged transactions allowed
 per target is not honored as the CAM SCSI system will automatically determine
--- adw.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
+++ adw.4	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
 .\" 2. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission.
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission.
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
--- aha.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
+++ aha.4	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 .\"    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 .\" 3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
--- ahb.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
+++ ahb.4	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 .\"    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 .\" 3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
--- amr.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:17:00 2001
+++ amr.4	Thu Aug 23 10:17:00 2001
@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
 .Nm
 driver provides support for American Megatrends MegaRAID Express,
 Elite and Enterprise family SCSI RAID controllers,
-including models relabelled and sold by Hewlett-Packard and Dell.
+including models relabeled and sold by Hewlett-Packard and Dell.
 Supported controllers include:
 .Bl -bullet
 .It
--- bt.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
+++ bt.4	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 .\"    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 .\" 3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
 .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES
--- fdc.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
+++ fdc.4	Thu Aug 23 10:14:43 2001
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 .\"    notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
 .\"    documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
 .\" 3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products
-.\"    derived from this software withough specific prior written permission
+.\"    derived from this software without specific prior written permission
 .\"
 .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR
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--- mlx.orig	Thu Aug 23 10:17:00 2001
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@@ -37,7 +37,7 @@
 The
 .Nm
 driver provides support for Mylex DAC-family PCI to SCSI RAID controllers,
-including versions relabelled by Digital/Compaq.
+including versions relabeled by Digital/Compaq.
 Supported controllers include:
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-On [20010820 15:00], Rolf (kiki@abc.ro) wrote:
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Romanian does not use 8879.  Romanian is ro_RO.ISO8859-2.

This should fix it.

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Hi

  I find error in FreeBSD Handbook in section 2.5.2 Creating Slices using 
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>Number:         30006
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [diff] make.conf(5) references KERNEL instead of KERNCONF
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Aug 23 13:50:01 PDT 2001
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>Originator:     setantae
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386
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System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #0: Thu Aug 23 17:39:37 BST 2001 root@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386


	
>Description:
	
The manpage for make.conf(5) describes the option ``KERNEL''.
Using this option rightly causes make buildkernel to complain as this is
now deprecated in favour of ``KERNCONF'', I believe.
>How-To-Repeat:
	man 5 make.conf
	
>Fix:

Apply the following diff with updates this to read KERNCONF instead.

thanks,

Ceri

(diff produced with diff -c ; if this is wrong please advise) :

*** make.conf.5.old     Thu Aug 23 21:39:59 2001
--- make.conf.5 Thu Aug 23 21:40:37 2001
***************
*** 254,260 ****
  Optimization levels above
  .Oo Fl O ( O2 , No ...\& ) Oc
  are not supported.
! .It Va KERNEL
  .Pq Vt str
  Controls which kernel configurations will be
  built by
--- 254,260 ----
  Optimization levels above
  .Oo Fl O ( O2 , No ...\& ) Oc
  are not supported.
! .It Va KERNCONF
  .Pq Vt str
  Controls which kernel configurations will be
  built by
***************
*** 263,269 ****
  .Dq Li "${MAKE} installkernel" .
  For example,
  .Bd -literal -offset indent
! KERNEL=MINE DEBUG GENERIC OTHERMACHINE
  .Ed
  .Pp
  will build the kernels specified by the config files
--- 263,269 ----
  .Dq Li "${MAKE} installkernel" .
  For example,
  .Bd -literal -offset indent
! KERNCONF=MINE DEBUG GENERIC OTHERMACHINE
  .Ed
  .Pp
  will build the kernels specified by the config files

	
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The following reply was made to PR docs/30006; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: setantae <setantae@submonkey.net>
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Subject: Re: docs/30006: [diff] make.conf(5) references KERNEL instead of KERNCONF
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:08:00 +0100

 The first half of this diff was applied earlier today.
 However, the example still needs amendment.
 
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In the second paragraph after Figure 2.17,  it should read "and press S to 
mark the slice as being bootable," instead of "and press A to mark the 
slice as being bootable."

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Synopsis: [diff] make.conf(5) references KERNEL instead of KERNCONF

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Second half applied, thanks!

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Synopsis: Two mistypings in fdp-primer

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Synopsis: random(4) manpage has typo

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This only affects RELENG_4.  I'll fix it after the freeze.


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Thanks for fixing up my half[-assed] commit!

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Here's a first stab at some documentation for installing on laptops.
It's not much, in fact it's hardly anything so far, but it's a start.

I think it would be a useful resource if it's built on; perhaps some
expert can pick it up and continue it.

http://www.lpt.ens.fr/~rsidd/laptop.html

- Rahul.

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Synopsis: manpages in section 4 have typos in license and a common spelling mistake

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All applied to -current, thanks!  In the future, please wrap lines to less
than 80 characters (your Description section was one line!), and separate
your patches.  Just because they're all in share/man4 doesn't mean all the
different issues should be fixed at the same time.

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>Number:         30008
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       This document should be translated, commented and added
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          wish
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu Aug 23 15:10:00 PDT 2001
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>Originator:     Marc van Woerkom
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>Description:
Softupdates could need some promotion/explanation.
I stumbled on a nice french document, that might help:

http://www.freebsd-fr.org/docs/fr/others/systeme-fichier/


>How-To-Repeat:
http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2327
>Fix:
If it has not been translated yet, please mail me and I'll
do it.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Synopsis: Simple typo in book.sgml (FAQ) (will send a big patch later, if other bugs are found)

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This and the other cases like it have been fixed, thanks!

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The following reply was made to PR docs/29985; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
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Subject: Re: docs/29985: manpages in section 4 have typos in license and a common spelling mistake
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:51:29 -0600

 For what it's worth, "queueing" and "queuing" are both correct spellings of
 the word.
 
 Check www.m-w.com.
 
 Ken
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From owner-freebsd-doc  Thu Aug 23 17:16:28 2001
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It's looking more and more likely that O'Reilly will *finally* agree
to publish "The Complete FreeBSD".  I've been trying to convince them
to do so for several years, but finally they have seen the light.

Some of you will be aware that I was already writing a BSD book for
O'Reilly.  This was not the same book, and is currently on hold as a
result of these developments.

The biggest problem I see at the moment is that they insist that the
sources be in DocBook format; currently they're in troff, using a
number of custom macros.  I've had experience converting from one to
the other, and it's not something that I have time for now.  So I'd
like to ask for help in doing so.  I'm prepared to pay if necessary,
but it needs to be done quickly; possibly a combined effort of several
people converting different chapters would be one possibility.  The
resultant code should validate and format under O'Reilly's gmat
formatting klud^H^H^H^Htool, available in the Ports Collection in
textproc/gmat.

Anybody interested?

Greg
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Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> 
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> On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 10:46:48PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote:
> > I was under the impression that we didn't want to write about things
> > that people couldn't get in anything that we would consider `release
> > quality'.  (The new md(4) (and mdconfig(8)) will (should) not be MFC'd
> > to RELENG_4 because they're incompatible with what's already there.)
> > If this isn't the case, I'll gladly write up something about the new
> > md(4) features; I was planning to do that when 5.0 hit -RELEASE,
> > anyway.
> 
>   We reference many things about 5.x already (a couple of notes on
> devfs, some stuff in the l10n chapter, etc.).  For the printed edition,
> that I'm obviously biased towards enhancing, we most definitely want to
> cover 5.x as best as possible.  I don't think there is any harm in
> covering 5.x features in the online copy of the Handbook either.  If
> you disagree, then we can always conditionally exclude your mdconfig
> additions behind a parameter entity like %not.published;

I don't disagree, although I thought I rememberd someone saying that
we didn't want to do this--perhaps I was just hallucinating.  I'll
write a section about the -current md(4) and post it up for review in
a few days, a week at the latest.

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On Thursday 23 August 2001 17:11, Raymond Law wrote:
> In the second paragraph after Figure 2.17,  it should read "and press S to
> mark the slice as being bootable," instead of "and press A to mark the
> slice as being bootable."

Thanks, this has been fixed.

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On Thursday 23 August 2001 09:46, Milan Mlynarcik wrote:
> Hi
>
>   I find error in FreeBSD Handbook in section 2.5.2 Creating Slices using
> FDisk second paragraph under Figure 2-17.
>
>   There is written: "If you do this then you should then select the newly
> created FreeBSD slice using the arrow keys, and press A to mark the slice
> as being bootable.".
>
>   Correct is: "If you do this then you should then select the newly created
> FreeBSD slice using the arrow keys, and press S to mark the slice as being
> bootable. "

Thanks!  This has been fixed.


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On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:59:32PM -0700, dd@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> All applied to -current, thanks!  In the future, please wrap lines to less
> than 80 characters (your Description section was one line!), and separate
> your patches.  Just because they're all in share/man4 doesn't mean all the
> different issues should be fixed at the same time.

I was tempted to do multiple PR's, but thought someone might complain. 
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/usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/basics-processes.html

---
As you can see in this example, the output from ps(1) is organized in to a number of columns. PID is the process ID discussed earlier. PIDs are assigned starting from 1, go up to 65536, and wrap around back to the beginning when you run out.
---
65536 is a wrong number. you may see that in examples at that page :)

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>Number:         30062
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] The description of disk, slices and partitions lacks detail
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Aug 24 17:10:00 PDT 2001
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>Description:

The description of disk, slices and partitions doesn't provide any
detail. In particular, there are no examples, nor does it say where in
the device name the partition letter windsd up. I don't believe the
slice numbering for extension slices are detailed anywhere.

>How-To-Repeat:

Well, I noticed that there is lots of confusion about slice/partition
names on -questions, and on checking the handbook noticed that this
wasn't really addressed anywhere.

>Fix:

The following patch adds the missing information. It also notes that
drive numbers start at 0, and that USB mass storage devices are "da"
devices.

--- chapter.sgml-orig	Fri Aug 24 18:29:16 2001
+++ chapter.sgml	Fri Aug 24 18:58:22 2001
@@ -177,7 +177,7 @@
 	      <literal>wcd</literal> before 4.0-RELEASE.</entry>
 	  </row>
 	  <row>
-	    <entry>SCSI hard drives</entry>
+	    <entry>SCSI hard drives and USB Mass storage devices</entry>
 	    <entry><literal>da</literal> from 3.0-RELEASE,
 	      <literal>sd</literal> before 3.0-RELEASE.</entry>
 	  </row>
@@ -223,6 +223,11 @@
       </tgroup>
     </table>
 
+    <para>All the drives attached through a specific driver are
+      numbered starting at 0. So the first IDE drive would be
+      <quote>ad<emphasis>0</emphasis></quote>. You seldom need to use
+      these devices.</para>
+
     <sect2 id="slicesandpartitions">
       <title>Slices and Partitions</title>
       <indexterm><primary>slices</primary></indexterm>
@@ -231,17 +236,31 @@
       <para>Physical disks usually contain
 	<firstterm>slices</firstterm>, unless they are
 	<quote>dangerously dedicated</quote>.  Slice numbers follow
-	the device name, prefixed with an <literal>s</literal>:
-	<quote>da0<emphasis>s1</emphasis></quote>.</para>
+	the device name, prefixed with an <literal>s</literal>,
+	starting at 1. So <quote>da0<emphasis>s1</emphasis></quote>
+	is the first slice on the first SCSI drive. There can only be
+	four physical slices on a disk, but you can have logical
+	slices inside physical slices of the appropriate type. These
+	extended slices are numbered starting at 5, so
+	<quote>ad0<emphasis>s5</emphasis></quote> is the first
+	extended slice on a disk. These devices are used by file
+	systems that expect to occupy a slice.</para> 
 
       <para>Slices, <quote>dangerously dedicated</quote> physical
 	drives, and other drives contain
 	<firstterm>partitions</firstterm>, which are represented as
 	letters from <literal>a</literal> to <literal>h</literal>.
-	<literal>b</literal> is reserved for swap partitions, and
-	<literal>c</literal> is an unused partition the size of the
-	entire slice or drive.  This is explained in <xref
-	linkend="disks-adding">.</para>
+	This letter is appended to the device name, so
+	<quote>da0<emphasis>a</emphasis></quote> is the a partition on
+	the first da drive, which is <quote>dangerously dedicated</quote>.
+	<quote>ad1s3<emphasis>e</emphasis></quote> is the fifth partition
+	in the third slice of the second IDE disk drive.</para>
+
+      <para>The boot code expects partition <literal>a</literal> to be
+        the root partition. Partition <literal>b</literal> is normally
+	reserved for swap partitions, and <literal>c</literal> is an
+	unused partition the size of the entire slice or drive.  This
+	is explained in <xref linkend="disks-adding">.</para>
     </sect2>
   </sect1>
 

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>Number:         30066
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>Confidential:   no
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>Description:
freebsd-ircops is a non-existant list, but it is in the handbook.

>How-To-Repeat:
Give it a look.
>Fix:
diff -ru doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml doc-fix/en_U
S.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml
--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml  Thu Aug 16 14:35
:02 2001
+++ doc-fix/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml      Fri Aug
24 23:02:51 2001
@@ -236,11 +236,6 @@
            </row>
            <row>
-             <entry>freebsd-ircops</entry>
-             <entry>Discussion of IRC servers on FreeBSD</entry>
-           </row>
-
-           <row>
              <entry>freebsd-ipfw</entry>
              <entry>Technical discussion concerning the redesign of the IP
                firewall code</entry>

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Synopsis: Presence of the mailing list freebsd-ircops in the handbook.

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State-Changed-Why: 
Checked against hub's aliases file and committed, thanks!

(Somehow, I couldn't get your patch to apply cleanly but since it
consisted of deleting consecutive lines, it was trivial to 
reconstruct.)

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>Number:         30068
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>Description:
The tag <filename> was used in the PPP Primer to define /dev/cuaa?. I
think that <devicename> would be more appropriate, as we have that tag.
>How-To-Repeat:
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>Fix:
Patch will be sent on freebsd-docs after the PR will be processed.
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Here is the patch (i don't know if you got it the first time...)


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The following reply was made to PR docs/30068; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Felix-Antoine Paradis <reel@sympatico.ca>
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 Here is the patch...
 
 
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Synopsis: [patch] how to get -STABLE by ftp

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dd committed your patch, but apparently forgot to close the PR.  :-)

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>Number:         30069
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       netstat man page doesn't describe the meaning of *
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Aug 24 23:00:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Andrew
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386
>Organization:
UgH!
>Environment:

	

>Description:

netstat -i shows the state of the network interfaces in the machine. It places
a * after the name of a device that is "down" however the manpage does not
mention this.

I wasn't sure if I should describe the interface as "down" or "not up". "down"
reads better but "not up" is what the code is actually testing for. I don't
know if it is possible (or if it ever will be possible) for an interface to
be not (up || down).

>How-To-Repeat:

	

>Fix:


--- /usr/src/usr.bin/netstat/netstat.1	Fri Aug 10 23:58:39 2001
+++ netstat.1	Sat Aug 25 15:44:18 2001
@@ -190,7 +190,9 @@
 .It Fl i
 Show the state of interfaces which have been auto-configured
 (interfaces statically configured into a system, but not
-located at boot time are not shown).
+located at boot time are not shown). A * after an interface name indicates
+the interface is not
+.Dq up .
 If the
 .Fl a
 options is also present, multicast addresses currently in use are shown
>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:36:35PM +0100, Nik Clayton said:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 06:32:59PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > > An acronym is anything formed from (typically the initial) letters from
> > > a phrase.  
> > 	
> > ...that forms a word (either real or contrived), so BIOS and SCSI are
> > acronyms, but IDE isn't (unless you pronounce it "eyed"), and neither is
> > PCI, IBM, etc.
> 
> What're things like "IDE" referred to then?

Initialisms.  One of the first references that Google provided was the
Dr. Grammar FAQ:

	http://www.drgrammar.org/faq.cfm#25

Of course, the Merriam-Webster dictionary said an initialism is an
acronym made up of the initial letters of a set of words.

Debbie

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>Number:         30082
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Dead URL on website
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Aug 25 13:00:01 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Conrad Sabatier
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com 4.4-RC FreeBSD 4.4-RC #0: Thu Aug 23 12:28:55 CDT 2001 root@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL i386


>Description:
	Dead URL on http://www.freebsd.org/news/press.html#2001June:0 
	(link to WSJ article on M$'s use of Open Source)
>How-To-Repeat:
	Follow links to http://public.wsj.com/news/hmc/sb992819157437237260.htm
>Fix:
	Link is dead, remove from page
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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The following reply was made to PR docs/29740; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@unixfreak.org>
To: "Peter Avalos" <pavalos@theshell.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/29740: [PATCH] Setting WRKDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj is a bad idea, but not commented 
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:14:31 -0700

 "Peter Avalos" <pavalos@theshell.com> writes:
 > > It seems wrong to tell someone not to do something and not 
 > > provide an explanation.
 > 
 > I was thinking the same thing, but I honestly don't know why this
 > confuses make so much. Perhaps someone who can explain this would
 > like to submit a better patch.
 
 It sounds like this is a bug in make(1) that should be fixed (when I
 first read the PR, I thought this was a documented `feature' of some
 sorts).  Perhaps you (or whoever was having this problem) could file a
 PR against that with some analysis, and/or at least the simplest test
 case?

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>Number:         30092
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       A typo in the the docs
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Aug 25 20:30:00 PDT 2001
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Daniel B. Hemmerich
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.3
>Organization:
www.BSDpro.com
>Environment:
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>Description:
The URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/x1412.html

In the third paragraph, first sentance, the word for should be replaced with from.
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>Fix:

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[[doc is cc'd so that they can put this in the right release-noteish place]]

I've implmented the first cut of ISA routing support for PCI devices.
There are just too many machines that FreeBSD can't seem to use their
PCIBIOS to route interrupts :-(.

So, if you CVSUP after 2001/08/26 04:48:47 GMT (well, give the mirrors
some time to propigate), you will have the following option.

If your laptop cannot route PCI interrupts with FreeBSD's current
interrupt routing scheme, please use ISA interrupts.  To enable ISA
interrupts, you need to set two tunables.  A tunable is generally set
in /boot/loader.conf by adding a line that says:
	tunable="value"
They may also be set, for testing purposes, at the "ok" command line
prompt using the set command:
	ok set tunable="value"

The first tunable is "hw.pcic.intr_path".  Setting this to 1 will
force the PCI pcic attachment to use ISA routing.  It has no effect on
the ISA pcic attachment.  Almost all will be configured as it was
before.  However, since you cannot set irq values for pci interrupts,
the second tunable "hw.pcic.irq" is used.  This tunable sets which IRQ 
to use for the CSC (aka management) interrupt.  0 is polling, and the
recommended value.  Systems with two slots must currently use polling
mode (this will be fixed soon, btw).  Systems with one slot may elect
to use an interrupt for the CSC.

Summary:
To put things into ISA mode, add the following two lines to
/boot/loader.conf:
	hw.pcic.intr_path=1
	hw.pcic.irq=0
Add free IRQs to /etc/pccard.conf for cards to use.

I was successful at using this on my pc98 laptop that doesn't have a
PIR table, and likely won't be able to route interrupts properly
(since the cbus-pci bridge chip is thinly documented at best).  I was
able to use a 3C589E and commit using the new kernel from this box.

Most of this information is contained in the new pcic.4 man page.

Those of you having problems with the PCI BIOS interrupt routing, or
if you have a CL-PD6729 or '6730 in your laptop, please try to use ISA
path for the interrupts and let me know if it works or fails.  If you
have a pccardd built from sources that are newer than August 21, you
can just boot test kernels with that pccardd and things should work.
(cardd.c revision 1.46.2.14 is the good version, it works with both
old (back to at least 4.2) and new kernels).

I'll put together a web form with all the information I'll need for
bug reports tomorrow or monday.  I gotta write my USENIX paper on this 
whole experience still.

Warner

P.S.  Please accept my profuse appologies for the high rate of change
in pccard in -stable.  Given the long shakeout time in -current I
thought that there wouldn't be near this many issues.

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Gentlemen:

There are some rendering problems with Figures 2.3 through 2.6: these
figures are located over text fields.  Thus, the text underneath them
cannot be read that jeopardizes the understandability of the whole
chapter.  Furthermore, Figures 2.4 through 2.6 overlap to a degree that
only parts of two figures can be seen.

In addition, I have some general observation as follows:

The list of supported components is rather outdated.  Anything that is
over five-year old should be put in an antiquated or legacy component
category.  But, well established and upcoming new components should be
listed.  Instead SCSI boards from the '80s and early '90s I like to see
CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, CD-RW and DVD-RW units, USB and fire-wire components.

Though, it may not be incorrect, but it is definitely unrealistic to try
to install multiple operating systems on a 4GB hard drive in 2001.
Obviously, using at least a 40GB hard drive in the example would be more
realistic.  There is a similar problem with the space requirement.
Nowadays, when a browser can take up close to 100MB, it is rather
hopeless to try jam everything in 2GB!

I also find somewhat naive to assume that the DOS and Windoze duet would
live in a studio apartment called C:.  I, for example, use C: through I:
for them, and having root, home, usr and swap partitions for Linux, and
have a tight 12GB left for FreeBSD.  I am really not sure that that
amount will be enough in early 2002.  What perhaps is more important
that this set up would force the description to deal with logical
partitions, too.  What about bringing in the picture a second hard
drive?  Using the word slice is not a great help.  It rather fogs the
mental picture of disk utilization.  Is it fundamentally different from
a partition?  Does FreeBSD requests using a contiguous disk region?  Has
that region to be a primary partition, or start on a primary partition,
or can be a set of logical partitions?  Using only primary partitions in
the examples makes the description formally simpler, but leaves the
subject incomplete.

Respectfully                                             László L. Orosz


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