From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Oct 22 13:43:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C00437B403 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9MKhfJ42160; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:43:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:43:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110222043.f9MKhfJ42160@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DVD filesystems X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-fs User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.4-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right mailinglist for my questions. If there's a better list for this, please let me know (and sorry for the wasted b/w). (Yes, I did search the list archives, but didn't find anything.) As you might know, Lehmanns is selling FreeBSD CD-ROM sets for the German-speaking market. Currently (4.4-Release), the set consists of six CDs, which is the maximum for a standard double jewel case. It's just a question of time when we'll exceed this limit. There are, of course, possibilities to package more than six CDs (cardboard packs, fleece packs like those from Sun/Solaris etc.), but all of them have disadvantages, so this is not the way we want to go -- instead, we would like to make a DVD-ROM. (Possibly in combination, i.e. five CD-ROMs with the most important stuff, plus one DVD-ROM with all of it.) I assume that the filesystem used on DVD-ROMs is just a huge ISO9660 file system (please, someone correct me if I'm wrong). I can make this with mkisofs, right? How do I make it bootable -- is the "El Torito" standard supported for DVD-ROMs as well, so I can just use the -b option of mkisofs? To sum it up: Can I simply pretend that a DVD-ROM is no more than a huge CD-ROM? Sorry if those questions are stupid, but I'm a newbie in DVD production. :-) Many thanks in advance for any hint and advice! Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Oct 22 13:47:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from cluster2.tfb.com (cluster2.tfb.com [204.212.132.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788537B401 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from micron (vsat-148-75-125-110.ssa7.mcl.starband.net [148.75.125.110]) by cluster2.tfb.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f9MKlW913163 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:47:35 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Jamey Kirby" To: Subject: RE: DVD filesystems Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:45:21 -0700 Organization: StorageCraft Message-ID: <001001c15a71$55e9bb30$6701a8c0@micron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200110222043.f9MKhfJ42160@lurza.secnetix.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The file system used on DVD is UDF. The specification is available on the web. (Universal Disk Filesystem) Jamey jkirby@storagecraft.com =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Oliver Fromme Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:44 PM To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DVD filesystems Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right mailinglist for my questions. If there's a better list for this, please let me know (and sorry for the wasted b/w). (Yes, I did search the list archives, but didn't find anything.) As you might know, Lehmanns is selling FreeBSD CD-ROM sets for the German-speaking market. Currently (4.4-Release), the set consists of six CDs, which is the maximum for a standard double jewel case. It's just a question of time when we'll exceed this limit. There are, of course, possibilities to package more than six CDs (cardboard packs, fleece packs like those from Sun/Solaris etc.), but all of them have disadvantages, so this is not the way we want to go -- instead, we would like to make a DVD-ROM. (Possibly in combination, i.e. five CD-ROMs with the most important stuff, plus one DVD-ROM with all of it.) I assume that the filesystem used on DVD-ROMs is just a huge ISO9660 file system (please, someone correct me if I'm wrong). I can make this with mkisofs, right? How do I make it bootable -- is the "El Torito" standard supported for DVD-ROMs as well, so I can just use the -b option of mkisofs? To sum it up: Can I simply pretend that a DVD-ROM is no more than a huge CD-ROM? Sorry if those questions are stupid, but I'm a newbie in DVD production. :-) Many thanks in advance for any hint and advice! Regards Oliver --=20 Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 M=FCnchen = Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Oct 22 13:55:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A47937B401 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 7581281D01; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:55:37 -0500 From: Alfred Perlstein To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DVD filesystems Message-ID: <20011022155537.O15052@elvis.mu.org> References: <200110222043.f9MKhfJ42160@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110222043.f9MKhfJ42160@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 10:43:41PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Oliver Fromme [011022 15:43] wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure if this is the right mailinglist for my > questions. If there's a better list for this, please > let me know (and sorry for the wasted b/w). > (Yes, I did search the list archives, but didn't find > anything.) I think FreeBSD Services distributed a FreeBSD DVD: http://www.freebsdservices.com/ Pick one up. :) -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Oct 22 14:35:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF5E37B405 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA90819 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:41:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DVD filesystems In-Reply-To: <200110222043.f9MKhfJ42160@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DVDs should according to the DVD consortium contain a UDF filesystem, which we do not support, however tthey are also supposed to contian foran "interim period" a secondary 'intermiaxed' ISO9660 filesystem on teh medium. (Both sets of metadata should point to the same data blocks...) I started to write a UDF filesystem last year but things changed=20 priority-wise and I never got past the debugging tools,. "One of these days" "just a huge 9660 filesystem" is probably good enough for most people... Especially since we can't read a UDF filesystem..=20 (and neither can old windows systems) julian On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm not sure if this is the right mailinglist for my > questions. If there's a better list for this, please > let me know (and sorry for the wasted b/w). > (Yes, I did search the list archives, but didn't find > anything.) >=20 > As you might know, Lehmanns is selling FreeBSD CD-ROM sets > for the German-speaking market. Currently (4.4-Release), > the set consists of six CDs, which is the maximum for a > standard double jewel case. It's just a question of time > when we'll exceed this limit. >=20 > There are, of course, possibilities to package more than > six CDs (cardboard packs, fleece packs like those from > Sun/Solaris etc.), but all of them have disadvantages, so > this is not the way we want to go -- instead, we would > like to make a DVD-ROM. (Possibly in combination, i.e. > five CD-ROMs with the most important stuff, plus one > DVD-ROM with all of it.) >=20 > I assume that the filesystem used on DVD-ROMs is just a > huge ISO9660 file system (please, someone correct me if > I'm wrong). I can make this with mkisofs, right? > How do I make it bootable -- is the "El Torito" standard > supported for DVD-ROMs as well, so I can just use the -b > option of mkisofs? To sum it up: Can I simply pretend > that a DVD-ROM is no more than a huge CD-ROM? >=20 > Sorry if those questions are stupid, but I'm a newbie in > DVD production. :-) >=20 > Many thanks in advance for any hint and advice! >=20 > Regards > Oliver >=20 > --=20 > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 M=FCnchen > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. >=20 > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Tue Oct 23 21:32:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA54937B405 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25124 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29839 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 21:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollin.btc.adaptec.com (hollin [162.62.149.56]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07094 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from scottl@localhost) by hollin.btc.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f9O4RGa67130 for freebsd-fs@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:27:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:27:16 -0600 From: Scott Long To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD filesystems Message-ID: <20011023222716.A67119@hollin.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > DVDs should according to the DVD consortium contain a UDF filesystem, > which we do not support, however tthey are also supposed to contian foran > "interim period" a secondary 'intermiaxed' ISO9660 filesystem on teh > medium. (Both sets of metadata should point to the same > data blocks...) > > I started to write a UDF filesystem last year but things changed > priority-wise and I never got past the debugging tools,. > "One of these days" > > "just a huge 9660 filesystem" is probably good enough for most people... > Especially since we can't read a UDF filesystem.. > (and neither can old windows systems) FWIW, the beginnings of a UDF filesystem driver can be found at http://people.freebsd.org/~scottl/udf . It only goes as far as reading the directory structure of the filesystem, but the ability to read file data is coming along. 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(PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id E6EEC3261E; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20E42E829; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: BSD User To: Thomas Quinot Cc: Paul van der Zwan , , Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: <20011025103908.D15286@cuivre.fr.eu.org> Message-ID: <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets it mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. The NFS server code is pretty tangled stuff. It builds RPC packets manually, switches uses from EPROGUNAVAIL as well as RPC_PROGUNAVAIL, has a jumble of macros with lots of side effects, and doesn't use anything from the RPC descriptions of NFS. I've been digging, but it has been really slow. It looks like it's probably some simple typo that got lost in the NFS megacommit. I've been trying to instrument the code to find the typo, but its taking a lot of effort. So far, I am seeing the packet getting built, but now I have to try to watch it on its way out. I must say that I now understand why no one is particularly enthused to fix these NFS bugs. Andy L. On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Thomas Quinot wrote: > Le 2001-10-25, BSD User =E9crivait : > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Paul van der Zwan wrote: > > > I have looked at a trace I made using snoop and it shows an NFS_ACL c= all which > [...] > > > It looks like an implementation error in the -current NFS server. > > I have been digging at traces of 4.4-RELEASE (which works) and -current > > (which doesn't). > > Both versions get it wrong. I have no idea why 4.4-RELEASE worked. > > Thanks for this information! > > I have opened a PR on that problem earlier yesterday: kern/31479. > > -- > Thomas Quinot ** D=E9partement Informatique & R=E9seaux ** quinot@inf.ens= t.fr > ENST // 46 rue Barrault // 75634 PARIS CEDEX 13 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Oct 25 9:32:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD2EA37B403; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 25 Oct 2001 17:32:48 +0100 (BST) To: BSD User Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 PDT." <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:32:47 +0100 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org>, BSD User writes: >Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets it >mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 >client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, >but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is not the NFS program ID. Try the patch below. Peter's NFS revamp changed the semantics of the nfsm_reply() macro, and nfsrv_noop() was not updated to match. Previously nfsm_reply would set 'error' to 0 when nd->nd_flag did not have ND_NFSV3 set, and much of the code that uses nfsrv_noop to generate errors ensured that nd->nd_flag was zero. Now nfsm_reply never sets 'error' to 0, so it needs to be done explicitly. Server op functions must return 0 in order for a reply to be sent to the client. Ian Index: nfs_serv.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/iedowse/CVS/src/sys/nfsserver/nfs_serv.c,v retrieving revision 1.107 diff -u -r1.107 nfs_serv.c --- nfs_serv.c 2001/09/28 04:37:08 1.107 +++ nfs_serv.c 2001/10/25 16:19:33 @@ -4000,6 +4000,7 @@ else error = EPROCUNAVAIL; nfsm_reply(0); + error = 0; nfsmout: return (error); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Oct 25 9:57:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from infres.enst.fr (infres-192.enst.fr [137.194.192.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C1737B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by infres.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 11117) id D74A01895; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:57:41 +0200 (MEST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:57:41 +0200 From: Thomas Quinot To: Ian Dowse Cc: BSD User , Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients Message-ID: <20011025185741.A3172@infres.enst.fr> Reply-To: Thomas Quinot References: <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Le 2001-10-25, Ian Dowse écrivait : > I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas > provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is > not the NFS program ID. Yep. (Incidentally 100227 appears in /etc/rpc as 'nfs_acl'). > Try the patch below. Seems to work. Thanks! Thomas. -- Thomas Quinot ** Département Informatique & Réseaux ** quinot@inf.enst.fr ENST // 46 rue Barrault // 75634 PARIS CEDEX 13 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Oct 25 12:17:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A9A37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trantor.xs4all.nl (trantor.xs4all.nl [194.109.61.248]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f9PJHgbo048117; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trantor.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trantor.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9PJHZx56036; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:35 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from paulz@trantor.xs4all.nl) Message-Id: <200110251917.f9PJHZx56036@trantor.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: BSD User Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , current@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org, paulz@trantor.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: Message from BSD User of "Thu, 25 Oct 2001 03:16:08 PDT." <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 21:17:34 +0200 From: Paul van der Zwan Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20011025030312.J8642-100000@mail.allcaps.org>, BSD User wrote= : >Actually, upon instrumenting some code, it looks like RELEASE-4.4 gets i= t >mostly right. It ejects a PROG_UNAVAIL call which causes the Solaris 8 >client to back off. The correct message would seem to be PROC_UNAVAIL, >but I would take PROG_UNAVAIL if I could get -current to eject it. In this case ( the NFS_ACL one) it seems PROG_UNAVAIL is the right thing.= It has a different program number from NFS and it is not just a not imple= mented procedure that is part of NFS. Paul -- = Paul van der Zwan paulz @ trantor.xs4all.nl "I think I'll move to theory, everything works in theory..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-fs Thu Oct 25 19:31:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mail.allcaps.org (mail.allcaps.org [208.252.245.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9ED37B401; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix, from userid 501) id 099903261E; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.allcaps.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D762E829; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:31:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew P. Lentvorski" To: Ian Dowse Cc: Thomas Quinot , Paul van der Zwan , , Subject: Re: Multiple NFS server problems with Solaris 8 clients In-Reply-To: <200110251732.aa69596@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Message-ID: <20011025192740.N9725-100000@mail.allcaps.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Ian Dowse wrote: > I think PROG_UNAVAIL is correct; the packet trace that Thomas > provided shows an RPC request with a program ID of 100227 which is > not the NFS program ID. I stand corrected. It does indeed attempt to access a different program. > > Try the patch below. > The patch works. Now I can get back to working out the rpc_lockd subsystem. As a side note, is anyone from the FreeBSD side of the world taking a box to Connectathon to do some NFS testing? -a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message