From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 30 15:15:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from jhs.muc.de (jhs.muc.de [193.149.49.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37A737B416 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from park.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhs.muc.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBTHHiL14120; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:17:44 GMT (envelope-from jhs@park.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200112291717.fBTHHiL14120@jhs.muc.de> To: 9ustavo 9onzalez 9iron Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i286 In-Reply-To: Message from 9ustavo 9onzalez 9iron of "Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:58:01 EST." Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:17:44 +0100 From: Julian Stacey Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Old mail found in my drafts directory, apologies if a duplicate ----- 9ustavo 9onzalez 9iron wrote: > > Exist some kind of FreeBSD's version for intel 286 processor? No > Thanks for any help. Try minix I think http://www.minix.org Minix 1.1 in 1986 aprox ran on 8086 as well as i286, no idea now what minimum processor is. Minix Book: Title: Operating Systems Design & Implementation Author: Tanenbaum Publisher: Prentice Hall - My book is from 4.1987, maybe there's been a reprint since. When later you migrate from i286 to i386 or better, FYI an amount of Minix code has been ported to run on FreeBSD (as extras not as integrated main BSD code). References are in freebsd-small@ mail archives: From Cyrille Lefevre Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:33:09 +0100 Message-ID: <3ddj37u2.fsf@gits.dyndns.org> Load of minix stuff ported to FreeBSD: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=31744 --- From: Warren Toomey Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:01:50 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200101112301.f0BN1o207059@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> UNIX source license. http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/TUHS/archive_access.html 1986 onward, I & a friend, with just 8086 hardware & no Unix box, wrote some Unix style commands in C to run on DOS, if you want them: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/src/odds/c/unix4dos/ Rest of mail just for nostalgia/vintage enthusiasts :-) -------- Re. > > From: 9ustavo 9onzalez 9iron > > Exist some kind of FreeBSD's version for intel 286 processor? > > From: Nate Williams > Never in a million years. There exists no 'real' unix for the 286, > since the 286 hardware is incapable of protecting processes well enough > to be safe. Siemens in 1985, was manufacturing licensed Unix boxes, running on an 80186 CPU, the model was called "MX". It was real Unix - I was automating source build for a 7 human language & 2 CPU architecture `make world' equivalent. The code also bore copyright of some other company (can't remember, but was once well known) which had bought rights from AT&T/Bell Labs/whoever, to resell Unix in bulk. Siemens sold it as "Sinix". Deep in the MX apparently, as the 86 has no System/User CPU status or pin for MMU etc, there was a JK bistable that was addressed via port command, (so if a user knew where to write ... !). I think Siemens were a licensed second source CPU manufacturer so could get them cheap. In 1986 Siemens made the "MX2" which was NSC 32016 based it didn't suffer the MX's 86 limitations (such as no SUID pin, & Makefiles that had to be less than 32K). 1988 I wanted to buy a Unix, found the Siemens boxes in Germany at least 30% ++ over priced, so I bought a Symmetric 375 from the USA http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/txt/symmetric.html NSC32016 based Unix the PCB was designed by Symmetic Inc. president Bill Jollitz, who later created 386BSD, fore-runner of Free+Net+Open BSD. Julian J.Stacey Munich Unix (FreeBSD, Linux etc) Independent Consultant Reduce costs to secure jobs: Use free software: http://bim.bsn.com/~jhs/free/ Ihr Rauchen = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 30 19:49:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F04B37B433 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia ([12.93.215.13]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011231034933.CAWB941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@columbia> for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:49:33 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "FreeBSD-Hardware" Subject: LSI/AMI/Dell Controller in the workstation... Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01c191ae$08d1f8c0$6600000a@ach.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good evening everyone, Just wanted to report that my Christmas present (an AMI Elite 1500 RAID Controller, actually the Dell badged version, it's a 2/DC) is doing wonderfully in it's new home (my workstation). Install of the hardware and reinstall of 4.4-Release went great. According to the numbers that I'm getting from running bonnie, I may have lost a little performance, but I'm also using less CPU time. I'll make the test results available if anyone's interested. Also, I found that Mike Smith's been working on a port of MegaManager according to his website update of 10/28/00. How's this coming along? --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 30 21: 1:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B857037B41C for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBV59fI03609; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112310509.fBV59fI03609@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Andrew C. Hornback" Cc: "FreeBSD-Hardware" Subject: Re: LSI/AMI/Dell Controller in the workstation... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:48:40 EST." <001f01c191ae$08d1f8c0$6600000a@ach.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:09:41 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Also, I found that Mike Smith's been working on a port of MegaManager > according to his website update of 10/28/00. How's this coming along? The port was done ages ago; AMI/LSI didn't respond to my requests to release it, however. I'd be happy to support someone wanting to write a stanalone utility, but I don't appear to have the time to do it myself. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 30 21:16:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25BA37B41E; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from columbia ([12.93.215.20]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011231051634.ZYNP5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@columbia>; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 05:16:34 +0000 From: "Andrew C. Hornback" To: "Mike Smith" Cc: "FreeBSD-Hardware" Subject: RE: LSI/AMI/Dell Controller in the workstation... Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <002101c191ba$306bcbc0$6600000a@ach.domain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <200112310509.fBV59fI03609@mass.dis.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Smith > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:10 AM > To: Andrew C. Hornback > Cc: FreeBSD-Hardware > Subject: Re: LSI/AMI/Dell Controller in the workstation... > > > > > Also, I found that Mike Smith's been working on a port of > MegaManager > > according to his website update of 10/28/00. How's this coming along? > > The port was done ages ago; AMI/LSI didn't respond to my requests to > release it, however. > > I'd be happy to support someone wanting to write a stanalone utility, but > I don't appear to have the time to do it myself. 8( I'd be glad to write it, if I had the time to devote to something like that... and the knowledge to do it. As for right now, I'm just a lowly MechEng major that's changing schools between semesters *UGH!* Thanks Mike... the drivers are working like a charm! *grins* --- Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 31 17:21:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com (mail.san.yahoo.com [209.132.1.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B8637B41F for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ransom (205.238.131.38) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.054.2) id 3C2A4F4F0007132B for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:21:48 -0800 From: "Kevin J. Kelly" To: Subject: Problem recognizing size of WD 120GB EIDE Disk Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:21:47 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am attempting to configure a new Western Digital Caviar 120GB EIDE (WD1200JB) drive on my FreeBSD system. My BIOS was fairly old, so I upgraded it to the most recent version which supports large hard drives. The BIOS will now recognize the disk properly on boot up. However, I am having difficult in getting the OS to see all of the drive. The sysinstall fdisk utility sees the geometry as 4092 cyls, 16 heads, & 63 sectors = 4124736 sectors == 2014 mb. Selecting the option to utilize the entire drive results in a partition of this size. Does anyone have any advice on what I can try to get FreeBSD to realize the full size of the disk? Thanks, Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 31 17:31:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FE137B422 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME (drumheller-router.bmi.net [206.63.201.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09089; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:31:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:31:43 -0800 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: "Kevin J. Kelly" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem recognizing size of WD 120GB EIDE Disk Message-ID: <20011231173143.B53751@johncoop.MSHOME> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from kjkelly@kjkelly.com on Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 17:21:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.3.0 Lines: 44 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001.12.31 17:21 Kevin J. Kelly wrote: > > I am attempting to configure a new Western Digital Caviar 120GB EIDE > (WD1200JB) drive on my FreeBSD system. My BIOS was fairly old, so I > upgraded it to the most recent version which supports large hard > drives. > > The BIOS will now recognize the disk properly on boot up. However, I > am > having difficult in getting the OS to see all of the drive. The > sysinstall > fdisk utility sees the geometry as 4092 cyls, 16 heads, & 63 sectors = > 4124736 sectors == 2014 mb. Selecting the option to utilize the > entire > drive results in a partition of this size. > I think the number of cylinders is getting truncated or suffering a wrap-around since my 40G Maxtor gives 79408/16/63. I would expect on a 120G drive to see about 3x that or roughly 240000/16/63. > Does anyone have any advice on what I can try to get FreeBSD to > realize the > full size of the disk? > > Thanks, > > Kevin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > -- _ | |V| / ' || MacroHard -- \ \_| | | \_, || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | AIM: johnmcooper || design . . . | =====================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =====================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 31 18:43:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from viator.haloflightleader.net (adsl-63-197-56-193.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.197.56.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394AE37B427 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise ([192.168.1.1]) by viator.haloflightleader.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g013Ymp15670 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@haloflightleader.net) Message-ID: <003901c1926d$c2cd2780$0101a8c0@haloflightleader.net> From: "Peter Ong" To: Subject: Happy New Year's to Everyone Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:41:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay... in the spirit of the coming new year's, I hope that the previous year was memorable, and the coming one will be a prosperous and exciting one. So, to celebrate, I'm going to set off some fireworks. Come join me, but please observe all safety. Thanks. Peter Ong http://www.haloflightleader.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message