From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Sep 16 5:48:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5077937B409 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prefect.unknown.dk (dag.batmule.dk [212.242.86.227]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DFA15FC26; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:48:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from fj@localhost) by prefect.unknown.dk (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f8GCmjQ07784; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:48:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fj) From: Flemming Jacobsen Message-Id: <200109161248.f8GCmjQ07784@prefect.unknown.dk> Subject: Re: FW: New FreeBSD FTP-mirror In-Reply-To: <20010911135307.S38427@tigerdyr.wheel.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?MichaelLyngb=F8l?= at "Sep 11, 2001 1:53: 7 pm" To: michael@lyngbol.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?MichaelLyngb=F8l?=) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:48:45 +0200 (CEST) Cc: te@webpartner.dk, jesper@skriver.dk, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MichaelLyngbøl wrote: > On 11.09.2001 12:30:37 +0000, Tommy Eriksen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > We've set up a mirror of ftp.freebsd.org. Right now it > > > > > mirrors via ftp every 4 hours - if you prefer another > > > > > mirroring-mechanism, please let us know so we can switch over. > > > > > > > > > The machine itself is a P3-500 on STM1/T3-connections. It is > > > > > located in Copenhagen, Denmark. > > > > > > Denmark allready has 3 tier 1 mirrors > > > > > >ftp.FreeBSD.org > > >ftp.dk.FreeBSD.org > > >ftp2.dk.FreeBSD.org > > > > It would seem that ftp.dk.freebsd.org and ftp2.dk.freebsd.org are in > > fact the same machine (boulder.tele.dk) and that the 2 (3?) servers are > > hosted at the same ISP (TDC) which is why we wanted to provide a mirror > > at another ISP. > > Wierd. ftp2.dk.freebsd.org used to be a CNAME for thot.dkuug.dk. It was changed right after a co-admin nuked the FreeBSD partition (when adjusting slices you need to pay attention to both length _and_ offset - sigh!). I'm fairly certain that I asked PHK to change it back when the mirror was rebuilt though. Oh well, I'll get it fixed. Hyg' Flemming -- Flemming Jacobsen Email: fj@batmule.dk ---=== If speed kills, Windows users may live forever. ===--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Sep 17 15:47:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D4E37B40E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8HMlfg52008 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: New CVSup snapshot to fix load problems from old clients Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of you have reported that your mirrors have become very heavily loaded after CVSup's s1g bug hit. This is because old clients which still have the bug are trying to update every touched file each time. Since virtually the entire FreeBSD repository has been tagged in the past few days, almost all files have been touched. I have created a new snapshot SNAP_16_1e which fixes this problem. It will refuse to serve clients that have the s1g bug. Such clients will display an error message directing the user to the s1g web page. I also added a similar check to the clients so that they will refuse to take their updates from a server which still has the bug. See the s1g web page for information about SNAP_16_1e: http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ The new snapshot is available in source form at this time. I don't know if or when binaries for all of the platforms will become available. I know that many of you are used to the simplicity of running binary CVSup releases. But I think this whole s1g experience has shown that if you are running a mirror site, you need to be able to build CVSup from source. If you are running FreeBSD, this is trivial. Simply install the pm3-net port (pm3-forms if you need the GUI). Building the pm3 ports is as simple as "make install", and if you are running a mirror site then you certainly have the resources to download the distfiles and build it. I realize that some of you are running your mirrors on other platforms, and I intend to help you get to the point where you can build your own executables. For some platforms it is very easy. There are some links to instructions on the CVSup home page: http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/ I will create a more generic page with instructions that should work for any platform, just as soon as I can. To those of you who contributed SNAP_16_1d binaries for various platforms, I would appreciate it if you could send me any patches you had to make in order to build PM3. I'll make these patches publicly available so that folks can become more self-sufficient in regard to building CVSup from source. Thanks again for your patience during the past week. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Sep 17 18:35:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A2F37B412; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 653DF4B6A7; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:34:24 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org, releng@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours Message-ID: <20010917183424.F20038@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release with 5 ISO images (one mini-install image, and then a 4 CD set). Thanks, - Murray --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7pqSftNcQog5FH30RArAVAKCwVKrrnTLGw9ycTFDvuEacQ9tZlACfZO5h miYMyQwjQaYEQ9ClurT/9WQ= =QaJ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Sep 17 18:37:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30F437B40F; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8I1bZb23745; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:37:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:37:42 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours In-Reply-To: <20010917183424.F20038@windriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release > with 5 ISO images (one mini-install image, and then a 4 CD set). > thanks for the notice murray. when it's on ftp-master, how much delay will there be before it makes it to ftp.freebsd.org and other mirrors ? will there be any co-ordinated release and announcement or will it just start appearing ? as you can imagine, it might take more than 12 hours for ll of it to get mirrored out. some disk space du output would also be good for: 4.4-RELEASE trees (i386 and alpha?) 4.4 ISO trees (i386 and alpha?) 4.4 package trees (i386 and alpha?) so we know the total amount of disk space required for all of them. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Sep 17 19:27:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (blitzkrieg.blackened.com [198.182.76.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA57537B408; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix, from userid 1028) id DCB8D1E832; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:27:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6FD18CB5; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:27:38 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:27:38 -0700 (MST) From: Valentino Vaschetto X-X-Sender: To: Murray Stokely Cc: Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours In-Reply-To: <20010917183424.F20038@windriver.com> Message-ID: <20010917192701.U14087-100000@Blitzkrieg.Blackened.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks so much Murray, now we have a bit of time to prepare :) -val On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release > with 5 ISO images (one mini-install image, and then a 4 CD set). > > Thanks, > > - Murray > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 2: 2: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6976737B426; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5FAD5D33; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:01:59 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: jason andrade Cc: Murray Stokely , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours Message-ID: <20010918110159.B57209@skriver.dk> References: <20010917183424.F20038@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@dstc.edu.au on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:37:42AM +1000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:37:42AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release > > with 5 ISO images (one mini-install image, and then a 4 CD set). > > > > thanks for the notice murray. > > when it's on ftp-master, how much delay will there be before it makes > it to ftp.freebsd.org and other mirrors ? ftp.freebsd.org mirrors from ftp-master every 6 hours, but I guess it probably takes some hours to transfer the data from ftp-master to ftp /Jesper, one of the admins of ftp.FreeBSD.org -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 2:11:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810AA37B40E; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8I9BIM94662; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45BC3808; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jesper Skriver Cc: jason andrade , Murray Stokely , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours In-Reply-To: <20010918110159.B57209@skriver.dk> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 02:11:17 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010918091117.E45BC3808@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:37:42AM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Murray Stokely wrote: > > > > > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > > > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release > > > with 5 ISO images (one mini-install image, and then a 4 CD set). > > > > > > > thanks for the notice murray. > > > > when it's on ftp-master, how much delay will there be before it makes > > it to ftp.freebsd.org and other mirrors ? > > ftp.freebsd.org mirrors from ftp-master every 6 hours, but I guess > it probably takes some hours to transfer the data from ftp-master > to ftp > > /Jesper, one of the admins of ftp.FreeBSD.org And a reminder to everybody, ****PLEASE**** make sure that you have some sort of reentrancy locking on your rsync / cvsup / whatever scripts. I've seen a couple of mirrors that were running 3 or 4 rsyncs in parallel on the same file... each one corrupting the work that the others were doing and causing the file to be trashed and start all over again next time around etc. Reminder: cvsup is available: *default host=ftp-master.freebsd.org *default base=/place/for/sup/directory *default prefix=/your-archive/pub *default delete use-rel-suffix compress FreeBSD-archive release=all preserve This will update /your-archive/pub/FreeBSD/* Many people seem to be having more success with cvsup vs. rsync -z on the large .iso files. Sorry, I do not have finer granularity of release packages set up. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 4:24:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C7937B40C; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 04:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8IBOYa08778; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:24:42 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:24:41 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Peter Wemm Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours In-Reply-To: <20010918091117.E45BC3808@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > > > > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release hmm. well, it's been about 10 hours now and i haven't seen anything appearing yet, so i'm assuming this is going to be towards the latter part of those 12 hours :-) > > > when it's on ftp-master, how much delay will there be before it makes > > > it to ftp.freebsd.org and other mirrors ? > > > > ftp.freebsd.org mirrors from ftp-master every 6 hours, but I guess > > it probably takes some hours to transfer the data from ftp-master > > to ftp i guess my point was once it starts appearing everyone will swamp ftp.freebsd.org and/or the other main mirrors.. 6 hours seems reasonable. do you guys have an estimate on how long it takes to mirror a release ? more out of curiousity - it's sometimes taken 2-3 days to get a single ISO image from the previous ftp.freebsd.org for me. i estimate a full 4.4 release will take approximately a week to get mirrored into australia - so expect to see a very large number of australian users hitting your site in denmark, via the USA's network.. > I've seen a couple of mirrors that were running 3 or 4 rsyncs in parallel > on the same file... each one corrupting the work that the others were doing > and causing the file to be trashed and start all over again next time around > etc. i don't believe *any* mirror should have more than one rsync or cvsup or ftp connection on a regular basis (two perhaps, for short term stuff, e.g a fetch is happening and one session is being used to ls or generate listings) to ftp-master as this provides for inequity of access to all mirrors. > Many people seem to be having more success with cvsup vs. rsync -z on the > large .iso files. i would recommend turning off compression support myself, since i've found it has little benefit except on archives of mainly text files and causes more trouble than its worth on the server and the client end. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 4:52:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A1737B414; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 04:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D4435D33; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:52:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:52:10 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: jason andrade Cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours Message-ID: <20010918135210.I57209@skriver.dk> References: <20010918091117.E45BC3808@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@dstc.edu.au on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:24:41PM +1000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:24:41PM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > > > > > > 4.4-RELEASE should be available from ftp-master.FreeBSD.org within > > > > > the next 12 hours. As a reminder, this will be a rather large release > > hmm. well, it's been about 10 hours now and i haven't seen anything appearing > yet, so i'm assuming this is going to be towards the latter part of those 12 > hours :-) > > > > > when it's on ftp-master, how much delay will there be before it makes > > > > it to ftp.freebsd.org and other mirrors ? > > > > > > ftp.freebsd.org mirrors from ftp-master every 6 hours, but I guess > > > it probably takes some hours to transfer the data from ftp-master > > > to ftp > > i guess my point was once it starts appearing everyone will swamp ftp.freebsd.org > and/or the other main mirrors.. 6 hours seems reasonable. do you guys have an > estimate on how long it takes to mirror a release ? Not really, when packages was transferred for one of the RC's the transfer rate was approx 150 kB/s > more out of curiousity - it's sometimes taken 2-3 days to get a single > ISO image from the previous ftp.freebsd.org for me. i estimate a > full 4.4 release will take approximately a week to get mirrored into > australia - so expect to see a very large number of australian users > hitting your site in denmark, via the USA's network.. Probably, shouldn't be a problem. > > I've seen a couple of mirrors that were running 3 or 4 rsyncs in > > parallel on the same file... each one corrupting the work that the > > others were doing and causing the file to be trashed and start all > > over again next time around etc. > > i don't believe *any* mirror should have more than one rsync or cvsup > or ftp connection on a regular basis (two perhaps, for short term > stuff, e.g a fetch is happening and one session is being used to ls > or generate listings) to ftp-master as this provides for inequity of > access to all mirrors. Agree, I think Peter was referring to the fact that unless you have locking, you might start a new rsync from cron before the first finishes. > > Many people seem to be having more success with cvsup vs. rsync -z > > on the large .iso files. > > i would recommend turning off compression support myself, since i've > found it has little benefit except on archives of mainly text files > and causes more trouble than its worth on the server and the client > end. Same here. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 8:50:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A86837B40C; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 847124B6A8; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:50:13 -0700 From: murray@stokely.org To: jason andrade Cc: Peter Wemm , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, releng@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE in 12 hours Message-ID: <20010918085013.A21228@windriver.com> References: <20010918091117.E45BC3808@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@dstc.edu.au on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:24:41PM +1000 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:24:41PM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > hmm. well, it's been about 10 hours now and i haven't seen anything appearing > yet, so i'm assuming this is going to be towards the latter part of those 12 > hours :-) I had to restart the build to get in Jordan's last minute libdisk fix. Current estimate is now noon PST. Thanks, - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 9:54:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ED137B41C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8IGsRg57063 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id f8IGsQB84263; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109181654.f8IGsQB84263@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Re: New CVSup snapshot to fix load problems from old clients In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article , John Polstra wrote: > I have created a new snapshot SNAP_16_1e which fixes this problem. I have just updated the "net/cvsup-devel" port to build this new snapshot. It probably hasn't reached the mirrors yet, but it will reach them soon. There are no updated packages at this time. Please build from source for the time being. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 10:55:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753FF37B401 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brother.ludd.luth.se (brother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.78]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15516 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:55:53 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200109181755.TAA15516@mother.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/alpha/packages-4-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:55:51 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It looks like the packages in /pub/FreeBSD/ports/alpha/packages-4-stable = are = stored both in All and under a category. They should be links to All. 6Gb= = shoud be 2Gb... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 19:56:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30F237B40B for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id B851F4B6A7; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:56:28 -0700 From: murray@stokely.org To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.4 Availability Message-ID: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The release directory is available now on ftp-master and 3 of the 5 ISO-IMAGES are ready. The remaining two are in transit.=20 Thanks, - Murray $ ls /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ total 9 drwxrwxr-x 9 archive archive 512 Sep 18 19:43 ./ drwxrwxr-x 4 archive archive 512 Mar 13 2001 ../ drwxrwxr-x 19 archive archive 1024 Jul 27 2000 3.5.1-RELEASE/ drwxrwxr-x 20 archive archive 1024 May 1 15:57 4.1.1-RELEASE/ drwxrwxr-x 19 archive archive 1024 May 1 15:58 4.2-RELEASE/ drwxrwxr-x 22 archive archive 1024 May 3 02:17 4.3-RELEASE/ drwxrwxr-x 21 murray archive 1024 Sep 18 19:42 4.4-RELEASE/ drwxrwxr-x 2 archive archive 512 May 1 15:58 5.0-CURRENT/ drwxrwxr-x 2 archive archive 512 Sep 18 19:45 ISO-IMAGES/ $ ls /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/ total 3440869 drwxrwxr-x 2 archive archive 512 Sep 18 19:45 ./ drwxrwxr-x 9 archive archive 512 Sep 18 19:43 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 archive archive 663183360 Jul 27 2000 3.5.1-install.iso -r--r--r-- 1 archive archive 668108800 Nov 22 2000 4.2-install.iso -r--r--r-- 1 archive archive 674414592 Apr 21 16:46 4.3-install.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 murray archive 667090944 Sep 18 13:05 4.4-disc4.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 murray archive 664305664 Sep 18 19:04 4.4-install.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 murray archive 184549376 Sep 18 17:34 4.4-mini.iso -r--r--r-- 1 archive archive 353 Sep 6 10:11 CHECKSUM.MD5 -rw-r--r-- 1 murray archive 1474 Sep 18 18:18 README.TXT --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7qAlctNcQog5FH30RAqpMAJ4xQEZaDQA3Wq+LgpZHCcxXXgGa1ACdFnM/ KoTozgXp24E5j0jUqP0SOtc= =Jcd3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 20: 9: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE0737B418 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8J38Fa10926; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:08:15 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:08:22 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: murray@stokely.org Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability In-Reply-To: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 murray@stokely.org wrote: > The release directory is available now on ftp-master and 3 of the 5 > ISO-IMAGES are ready. The remaining two are in transit. thanks for the update murray. btw, i think one of the links is broken packages -> /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.4-release in /pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.4-RELEASE/ this appears to be an explicit link and perhaps should be a relative one ? i don't know if every FreeBSD mirror has /pub in their root filesystem (or even symlinked from there) regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 20:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AD137B415 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 3BCD64B6A7; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:11:54 -0700 From: murray@stokely.org To: jason andrade Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability Message-ID: <20010918201154.B22501@windriver.com> References: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jason@dstc.edu.au on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:08:22PM +1000 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 01:08:22PM +1000, jason andrade wrote: > this appears to be an explicit link and perhaps should be a relative > one ? i don't know if every FreeBSD mirror has /pub in their root > filesystem (or even symlinked from there) Fixed, thanks. I know that at least one of the mirrors uses /pub/os/FreeBSD or something similar. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Sep 18 21:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8385137B41B for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8J4opO41377 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4 ISO image directory changed X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010918215051E.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:50:51 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 12 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry folks, but before the ISO image uploads got too far along I took steps to head off what was already becoming an overcrowding situation in ISO-IMAGES/ now that we're doing 5 ISO images per release. For that reason, each release from 4.4 onwards will have its own subdirectory and more complete documentation on what the various ISO images are for. Otherwise, it's just going to get very confusing. Thanks for your patience. I'm rolling the 4.4/AXP release ISOs now and they (two images) should appear in the next 24 hours or so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 7: 6:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from eden.ispol.com (eden.ispol.com [206.239.103.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9251D37B41A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (grisha@localhost) by eden.ispol.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8JE6kZ93247 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:06:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from grisha@verio.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eden.ispol.com: grisha owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:06:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability In-Reply-To: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is fun to watch: ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif Traffic went from 5 to 35 megabits on ftp2 in the past couple of hours. Grisha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 9:32: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E4837B41A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JGW4d02135; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:32:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:32:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109191632.f8JGW4d02135@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability In-Reply-To: References: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif > Traffic went from 5 to 35 megabits on ftp2 in the past couple of hours. I don't have publicly-available Cricket graphs, but I noted a similar increase almost as soon as my rsync copied the bits over. ftp5 was running at about 25 Mbit/s (which is pretty good for that machine!) so I cranked down on the limits a bit. I noticed several users with large numbers of simultaneous connections; they have been kicked off, and will be banned if I see similar behavior again. I also opened up a new service class for *.edu users; there are twenty slots in that class. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 12:19:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD73037B415 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JJJng65448 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:19:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id f8JJJme89816; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109191919.f8JJJme89816@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Some binaries for CVSup SNAP_16_1e are now available Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have updated the s1g web page with some binaries for SNAP_16_1e: http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/ This is the version that checks for a peer with the s1g bug and refuses (politely) to talk to it. Currently the page has binaries of SNAP_16_1e for: FreeBSD-4.4 (i386 and alpha) NetBSD-1.5.2 (i386) BSD/OS 4.1 (i386) Debian GNU/Linux potato (i386) I can build binaries for: OpenBSD-2.8 (i386) and will do so as soon as possible. If any of you sent me binaries that aren't in the list above, please send me a gentle reminder. If you are thinking about sending me binaries but haven't built them yet, I would appreciate it if you'd contact me. Ideally, binaries should be built statically-linked against the Modula-3 libraries, but dynamically-linked against the system libraries. That way, they will work with SOCKS. However, this is somewhat tricky to do; the most straightforward method involves rebuilding PM3 after applying a small patch. Having said that ... I'll gratefully take what I can get, and fully static binaries are just fine as far as I am concerned. :-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 13: 3: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC62C37B415 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8712E5DA3; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:02:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:02:58 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability Message-ID: <20010919220258.F79240@skriver.dk> References: <20010918195628.A22501@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from grisha@verio.net on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:06:46AM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:06:46AM -0400, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > > This is fun to watch: > > ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif > > Traffic went from 5 to 35 megabits on ftp2 in the past couple of hours. ftp.FreeBSD.org has pushed between 200 and 260 Mbps most of the day. But there's a problem, when the number of connections increase to more than approx 900, the load skyrockets, often with a loadindex of 150 or more :-( This is using the stock ftpd from FreeBSD - it was worse using dgftp, havn't figured why yet. Currently ftpd is started from tcpserver, which allows to limit the number of concurrent connections, which helps to keep the load under control. A current snapshot: jesper@ftp% vmstat 1 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 da1 in sy cs us sy id 137 9 0 375124109428 337 0 0 0 1811 1625 0 224 5390 3322 54380 1 80 19 18415 0 379112 84108 839 0 0 0 6404 0 0 244 14738 6646 283041 1 99 0 23011 0 379764 73868 645 0 0 0 2829 0 1 117 6997 8067 108663 1 99 0 21413 0 379536102636 855 0 0 0 14339 21608 2 180 34044 13818 711264 0 100 0 19616 0 379948 70680 520 0 0 0 7760 0 0 177 18985 4797 399380 1 99 0 21618 0 378992102292 125 7 0 0 2694 10744 0 154 7207 1426 155766 0 100 0 19317 0 379460 88880 388 0 1 0 3269 0 1 177 7419 2344 139995 0 100 0 19119 0 376524105820 567 0 0 0 6599 10775 0 146 15907 3559 353796 0 100 0 17614 0 373716 74020 231 0 0 0 7512 0 0 147 18143 3417 430951 1 99 0 jesper@ftp% ps aux | grep ^ftp | wc -l 840 PS: It's a dual 800 MHz PIII with 2 GB of memory, storage is raid5 using a adaptec 3210 controller, but it's not disk I/O that's the problem. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 13:23:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from eden.ispol.com (eden.ispol.com [206.239.103.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A4E37B40D for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (grisha@localhost) by eden.ispol.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8JKNPl00759; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:23:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from grisha@verio.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eden.ispol.com: grisha owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:23:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" X-X-Sender: To: Jesper Skriver Cc: Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability In-Reply-To: <20010919220258.F79240@skriver.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ftp2 can't really do more than 100Mbps since it's on 100Mb link, but it sure tried today to get as close to 100 as it could. I'm seeing sporadic freezes, during which I get no response for up to 2 minutes. The machine stays up, but won't even respond to ICMP. This can be seen on the graph below. The thing about these things is they are so hard to troubleshoot because I don't want to do a lot of experimenting because I want the server to stay up, but I can't think of a way such a load can be simulated for test purposes... The spec is I think a 500MHz with 512MB RAM and an Adaptec 2100s RAID controller, this is an Intel ISP 2150 (L440GX motherboard) - a pretty solid box. In the kernel I have "maxusers 256" - I wonder if this is to low. The ftpd is stock ftpd, currently running as daemon, but usually I just have inetd. [16:16:42 root@ftp2 /usr/home/grisha]# netstat -m 2916/6416/18432 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 2428 mbufs allocated to data 488 mbufs allocated to packet headers 2243/4608/4608 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 10820 Kbytes allocated to network (78% of mb_map in use) 181910 requests for memory denied 288 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines [16:16:45 root@ftp2 /usr/home/grisha]# vmstat 1 procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 md0 in sy cs us sy id 13 2 0 39768 16728 117 12 5 0 269 132 0 0 578 678 309 1 5 94 15 2 0 39768 21152 33 14 7 3 1217 2412 86 0 2231 21964 2935 60 40 0 10 2 0 38452 16744 131 24 9 0 1269 0 96 0 2124 22292 2724 65 35 0 17 2 0 40416 21056 52 6 5 0 1152 2125 102 0 2200 21973 2950 64 36 1 17 3 0 39852 16132 24 10 6 0 1319 0 109 0 2446 21412 3236 55 45 0 15 2 0 44392 21128 78 9 5 0 1478 2696 114 0 2281 22112 2961 57 43 0 [16:19:53 root@ftp2 /usr/home/grisha]# ps -ax | grep ftpd | wc 181 1697 19882 The top of top looks like this: last pid: 64160; load averages: 2.35, 1.68, 1.70 up 63+19:01:47 16:22:16 217 processes: 14 running, 199 sleeping, 4 zombie CPU states: 34.7% user, 0.0% nice, 49.5% system, 15.8% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 322M Active, 50M Inact, 107M Wired, 20M Cache, 61M Buf, 992K Free Swap: 512M Total, 7268K Used, 505M Free, 1% Inuse On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jesper Skriver wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:06:46AM -0400, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > > > > > This is fun to watch: > > > > ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif > > > > Traffic went from 5 to 35 megabits on ftp2 in the past couple of hours. > > ftp.FreeBSD.org has pushed between 200 and 260 Mbps most of the > day. > > But there's a problem, when the number of connections increase to > more than approx 900, the load skyrockets, often with a loadindex > of 150 or more :-( > > This is using the stock ftpd from FreeBSD - it was worse using > dgftp, havn't figured why yet. > > Currently ftpd is started from tcpserver, which allows to limit > the number of concurrent connections, which helps to keep the load > under control. > > A current snapshot: > > jesper@ftp% vmstat 1 > procs memory page disks faults cpu > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 da1 in sy cs us sy id > 137 9 0 375124109428 337 0 0 0 1811 1625 0 224 5390 3322 54380 1 80 19 > 18415 0 379112 84108 839 0 0 0 6404 0 0 244 14738 6646 283041 1 99 0 > 23011 0 379764 73868 645 0 0 0 2829 0 1 117 6997 8067 108663 1 99 0 > 21413 0 379536102636 855 0 0 0 14339 21608 2 180 34044 13818 711264 0 100 0 > 19616 0 379948 70680 520 0 0 0 7760 0 0 177 18985 4797 399380 1 99 0 > 21618 0 378992102292 125 7 0 0 2694 10744 0 154 7207 1426 155766 0 100 0 > 19317 0 379460 88880 388 0 1 0 3269 0 1 177 7419 2344 139995 0 100 0 > 19119 0 376524105820 567 0 0 0 6599 10775 0 146 15907 3559 353796 0 100 0 > 17614 0 373716 74020 231 0 0 0 7512 0 0 147 18143 3417 430951 1 99 0 > > jesper@ftp% ps aux | grep ^ftp | wc -l > 840 > > PS: It's a dual 800 MHz PIII with 2 GB of memory, storage is raid5 > using a adaptec 3210 controller, but it's not disk I/O that's > the problem. > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 > Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) > Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from xbox.ca.360networks.net (xbox.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D7B37B40E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xbox.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A36893401; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:00:18 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: Jesper Skriver , freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability Message-ID: <20010919150018.A40202@360networks.net> References: <20010919220258.F79240@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from grisha@verio.net on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:23:25PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:23:25PM -0400, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > ftp2 can't really do more than 100Mbps since it's on 100Mb link, but it > sure tried today to get as close to 100 as it could. > > I'm seeing sporadic freezes, during which I get no response for up to 2 > minutes. The machine stays up, but won't even respond to ICMP. This can be > seen on the graph below. Sounds just like ftp.ca.freebsd.org :) I ran out of mbufs, which it would appear you have as well: > [16:16:42 root@ftp2 /usr/home/grisha]# netstat -m > 2916/6416/18432 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 2428 mbufs allocated to data > 488 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 2243/4608/4608 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) ^^^^^^^^^ I moved to options NMBCLUSTERS=32768 in my kernel conf, rebooted, and now it's holding up. Machine has a Gig of RAM and a couple 15k disks in it, and a single 866MHz PII. Moving between 70 and 80 MBit/sec right now, and it looks like I'll probably have enough breathing room with the disk/CPU to saturate the 100Mbit/s ethernet link, if demand grows. Using proftpd, FWIW. A bit of a memory hog.. should probably switch to stock ftpd with tcpserver. -Mark > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:06:46AM -0400, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is fun to watch: > > > > > > ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif > > > > > > Traffic went from 5 to 35 megabits on ftp2 in the past couple of hours. > > > > ftp.FreeBSD.org has pushed between 200 and 260 Mbps most of the > > day. > > > > But there's a problem, when the number of connections increase to > > more than approx 900, the load skyrockets, often with a loadindex > > of 150 or more :-( > > > > This is using the stock ftpd from FreeBSD - it was worse using > > dgftp, havn't figured why yet. > > > > Currently ftpd is started from tcpserver, which allows to limit > > the number of concurrent connections, which helps to keep the load > > under control. > > > > A current snapshot: > > > > jesper@ftp% vmstat 1 > > procs memory page disks faults cpu > > r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 da1 in sy cs us sy id > > 137 9 0 375124109428 337 0 0 0 1811 1625 0 224 5390 3322 54380 1 80 19 > > 18415 0 379112 84108 839 0 0 0 6404 0 0 244 14738 6646 283041 1 99 0 > > 23011 0 379764 73868 645 0 0 0 2829 0 1 117 6997 8067 108663 1 99 0 > > 21413 0 379536102636 855 0 0 0 14339 21608 2 180 34044 13818 711264 0 100 0 > > 19616 0 379948 70680 520 0 0 0 7760 0 0 177 18985 4797 399380 1 99 0 > > 21618 0 378992102292 125 7 0 0 2694 10744 0 154 7207 1426 155766 0 100 0 > > 19317 0 379460 88880 388 0 1 0 3269 0 1 177 7419 2344 139995 0 100 0 > > 19119 0 376524105820 567 0 0 0 6599 10775 0 146 15907 3559 353796 0 100 0 > > 17614 0 373716 74020 231 0 0 0 7512 0 0 147 18143 3417 430951 1 99 0 > > > > jesper@ftp% ps aux | grep ^ftp | wc -l > > 840 > > > > PS: It's a dual 800 MHz PIII with 2 GB of memory, storage is raid5 > > using a adaptec 3210 controller, but it's not disk I/O that's > > the problem. > > > > /Jesper > > > > -- > > Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 > > Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) > > Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) > > > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15: 1:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693A337B40A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.11.4/8.11.4/isnic) id f8JM1SP08431 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:01:28 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:01:28 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I know I'm a new guy into this list but I'm still going to send in my comments. I beleive that the release of FreeBSD on ftp could be done in a much better and more efficient way than being done today. 1. I find it strange that the announcement of the new version was sent out before even ftp.freebsd.org was up-to-date. 2. It is also strange that mirrors were allowed to start mirroring from ftp-master before the maintainers finished uploading to the machine, making the mirrors in some instances download hundreds of MB again when it was decided to change the setup of the ISO-IMAGES dir. 3. To my knowledge there were only 3 sites today (13:00 GMT) that had all of 4.4 i386 iso images on their ftp server, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp5.freebsd.org and ftp.rhnet.is, but ftp.freebsd.org didn't have all. 4. The ftp.freebsd.org should ofcourse be some kind of a round-robin setup of full-mirrors. I would like to volunteer for a group wich had the task of redesigning the ftp-release procedure and the setup of ftp.freebsd.org aliases. One idea I have is leaving the complete freebsd.org zone as-is and then adding NS records for ftp.freebsd.org wich point to a set of servers running some kind of software directing users to a site geographically closer. This could be done in many ways, it could learn AS paths, or at the bare minimum check out the TLD of the user and send him to ftp.TLD.freebsd.org or if not available send the user to the ftp.TLD.freebsd.org server closest to his country. Oli P.S. I don't have access to ftp-master.freebsd.org yet, but if someone reading this can make that happen for me it would be much appreciated. (ftp.rhnet.is, (Real: draupnir.rhnet.is), rsync or cvsup) -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet Iceland inc. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518C437B40C for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8JMGSt06017; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:16:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:16:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109192216.f8JMGSt06017@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: ftpN.i2.FreeBSD.org, anyone? Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Watching the clients of ftp5 pulling the 4.4 ISOs down has reminded me again of an idea that I had. The idea is this: Parallel to the ${cc}.FreeBSD.org domains, let's establish an i2.FreeBSD.org domain, indicating mirror sites connected via Internet2 and associated networks (STARTAP, CA*NET3, SuperJANET4, etc.). Mirrors which are already in one of the other domains would have the option of dual-listing, or moving solely to the i2 domain. (We would probably move, but maintain an open-access policy; there look to me to be enough commodity-network mirrors right now.) I have I2 connectivity to the following mirrors: cvsup (n.cwu.edu) cvsup3/ftp5 (me) cvsup12 (sanmateo.ecn.purdue.edu) cvsup15 (cvsup.math.uic.edu) cvsup16 (warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu) cvsup.se/ftp.se (ftg-ltu1.net.luth.se) cvsup.no (c2h5oh.idi.ntnu.no) cvsup3.de/ftp4.de (cvsup.leo.org) ftp3 (raven.cslab.vt.edu) ftp7 (ftp.arl.army.mil) ftp9 (ftp.cerias.purdue.edu) ftp12 (reflection.ncsa.uiuc.edu) ftp2.uk (hubble-if-b.mirror.ac.uk) ftp5.uk (karma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) ftp.ch (sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch) ftp.it ftp2.de (caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de) ftp3.de (Rcs49.urz.tu-dresden.de) ftp7.de (ftp.tu-clausthal.de) ftp2.nl (ftp.nluug.nl) ftp2.se (shake.stacken.kth.se) ftp3.se (ftp2.sunet.se) ftp.no (spheniscus.uninett.no) ftp2.no (trane.uninett.no) ftp3.no (server.pasta.cs.uit.no) ftp4.jp (ftp.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp) ftp5.jp (lahonda.net.is.uec.ac.jp) -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15:29:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B89137B419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1174A7981; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:29:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.24.91]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F7410AC1; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:29:21 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 75DB91368D; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:29:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:29:22 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Olafur Osvaldsson Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010920002922.A93966@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is>; from oli@isnic.is on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000 X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Olafur Osvaldsson wrote on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000: [..] > 1. I find it strange that the announcement of the new version was sent out > before even ftp.freebsd.org was up-to-date. Yes, nothing agains an official release date, to ship CD-ROM distributions in time, etc. But the announcement on the list and on the webpage could be delayed until a reasonable set of mirrors has caught up. > 2. It is also strange that mirrors were allowed to start mirroring from > ftp-master before the maintainers finished uploading to the machine, > making the mirrors in some instances download hundreds of MB again when > it was decided to change the setup of the ISO-IMAGES dir. Hmm, that was sent in time. People who have already synced, could have moved to images to the recent directory thus saving to download them again. It was unfortunate, but not a real problem, and it was announced. > 3. To my knowledge there were only 3 sites today (13:00 GMT) that had all of > 4.4 i386 iso images on their ftp server, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp5.freebsd.org > and ftp.rhnet.is, but ftp.freebsd.org didn't have all. You made it. :) [..] > P.S. I don't have access to ftp-master.freebsd.org yet, but if someone reading > this can make that happen for me it would be much appreciated. > (ftp.rhnet.is, (Real: draupnir.rhnet.is), rsync or cvsup) If you haven't done already, ask for a "ftp2.is.freebsd.org" alias/A-record. Then you can call yourself 'tier-1' and request access. ;-)) Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - "Do you love yourself ?" - "Yes!" (Isar 12) - *Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15:39:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951C937B416 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED33B7981; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:39:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.24.91]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1E410AC1; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:39:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 5FAFA1368D; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:39:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:39:26 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Garrett Wollman Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftpN.i2.FreeBSD.org, anyone? Message-ID: <20010920003926.B93966@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <200109192216.f8JMGSt06017@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109192216.f8JMGSt06017@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:16:28PM -0400 X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Garrett Wollman wrote on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:16:28PM -0400: > Watching the clients of ftp5 pulling the 4.4 ISOs down has reminded me > again of an idea that I had. The idea is this: Parallel to the > ${cc}.FreeBSD.org domains, let's establish an i2.FreeBSD.org domain, > indicating mirror sites connected via Internet2 and associated > networks (STARTAP, CA*NET3, SuperJANET4, etc.). Mirrors which are > already in one of the other domains would have the option of > dual-listing, or moving solely to the i2 domain. (We would probably > move, but maintain an open-access policy; there look to me to be > enough commodity-network mirrors right now.) [..] Hmm, it sounds nice, but I won't see the real benefit, yet. I would not mind beeing listed in i2.freebsd.org _and_ de.freebsd.org. Maybe something like ${cc}.i2.freebsd.org would give an additional hint, where to connect, but this seems to become too pedantic ? ;-) So if people think it is a good idea, feel free to add ftp.leo.org / cvsup.leo.org to the i2 subdomain. Best regards, Daniel Lang -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Eddie would go! - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.254.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4637B40D for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.81]) by mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492847981; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:43:07 +0200 (MEST) Received: from atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.24.91]) by tuminfo2.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FFA10AC1; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:43:05 +0200 (MEST) Received: by atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 20455) id 0EEE31368D; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:43:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:43:07 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: hubs@freebsd.org Cc: ag@devsoft.com Subject: Some time off Message-ID: <20010920004306.C93966@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm off until Oct 10, 2001. In urgent cases with LEO's FreeBSD mirrors or services (ftp, rsync, cvsup), please contact: Armin Gruner Sorry if you find this is spam, please ignore then. Best regards, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Cool people don't move, they just hang around. - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * ++49 89 289 25735 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 15:48: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAD037B420 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.11.4/8.11.4/isnic) id f8JMjNF10302; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:45:23 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:45:23 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: Daniel Lang Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010919224523.B8729@isnic.is> References: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> <20010920002922.A93966@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010920002922.A93966@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>; from dl@leo.org on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 12:29:22AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Daniel Lang wrote: > If you haven't done already, ask > for a "ftp2.is.freebsd.org" alias/A-record. > > Then you can call yourself 'tier-1' and request access. ;-)) > I contacted adam@veda.is wich is the person behind hostmaster@veda.net and he agreed that he didn't have the time to maintain this and sent in a request to hostmaster@freebsd.org for a change of the NS records for is.freebsd.org to a set of nameservers run by me, I'm still waiting for this change. Oli -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet Iceland inc. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 16:11:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from xbox.ca.360networks.net (xbox.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE0037B405 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xbox.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB08B93401; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:11:31 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: Olafur Osvaldsson Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010919161131.A40925@360networks.net> References: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is>; from oli@isnic.is on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000, Olafur Osvaldsson wrote: > Hi, > > 1. I find it strange that the announcement of the new version was sent out > before even ftp.freebsd.org was up-to-date. That is a bit odd, yes. > 2. It is also strange that mirrors were allowed to start mirroring from > ftp-master before the maintainers finished uploading to the machine, > making the mirrors in some instances download hundreds of MB again when > it was decided to change the setup of the ISO-IMAGES dir. I stayed up and supervised the syncing to be ready for "the big hit", so I saw this change and just moved some files around without having to download them. Naturally, any automated scripts would have re-transfered one image. Buy hey, the change had to be made. It was. It was communicated. I don't see much reason to complain on this one. And the extra download of one image is hardly a worry for a mirror -- we'll push out that many bytes every few minutes for the next couple weeks.. > 3. To my knowledge there were only 3 sites today (13:00 GMT) that had all of > 4.4 i386 iso images on their ftp server, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp5.freebsd.org > and ftp.rhnet.is, but ftp.freebsd.org didn't have all. I (ftp.ca.freebsd.org) had all the images before the announcement. Again, I stayed up and waited for the images to appear on ftp-master, downloaded everything to holding spots, and moved it all over in one go once I had everything. It required a few hours of my time, yes, but that doesn't seem unreasonable. I can spare a few hours several times a year to make sure releases go smoother. > 4. The ftp.freebsd.org should ofcourse be some kind of a round-robin setup of > full-mirrors. I would agree that this is a good idea, assuming there are enough tier-1 mirrors committed to give their time to make it happen. The primary resouce needed to make this happen is the dedication of some time from a handful of mirror admins to work out and agree to the details. And ultimately, commit to making themselves available during the release date to make sure it works smoothly. Overall, this release seems to be going a whole lot better than the 4.3 release, and I think everyone involved deserves a round of applause for making it happen. Especially the release engineering team. -Mark -- Mark Mayo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 16:48:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD3037B40D for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.11.4/8.11.4/isnic) id f8JNmHJ12691; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:48:17 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:48:17 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: Mark Mayo Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010919234817.D8729@isnic.is> References: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> <20010919161131.A40925@360networks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919161131.A40925@360networks.net>; from mmayo@360networks.net on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 04:11:31PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Mayo wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000, Olafur Osvaldsson wrote: > I stayed up and supervised the syncing to be ready for "the big hit", so > I saw this change and just moved some files around without having to > download them. Naturally, any automated scripts would have re-transfered > one image. Buy hey, the change had to be made. It was. It was > communicated. I don't see much reason to complain on this one. And the > extra download of one image is hardly a worry for a mirror -- we'll > push out that many bytes every few minutes for the next couple weeks.. I also stayed up but when without access to ftp-master it was a bit harder for me ;) that is being fixed. Regarding the iso files it didn't matter to me, but I have noticed some mirror admins complain about the number of iso files so my guess was that they don't like having to download them multiple times. > > > 3. To my knowledge there were only 3 sites today (13:00 GMT) that had all of > > 4.4 i386 iso images on their ftp server, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp5.freebsd.org > > and ftp.rhnet.is, but ftp.freebsd.org didn't have all. > > I (ftp.ca.freebsd.org) had all the images before the announcement. > Again, I stayed up and waited for the images to appear on ftp-master, > downloaded everything to holding spots, and moved it all over in one go > once I had everything. It required a few hours of my time, yes, but that > doesn't seem unreasonable. I can spare a few hours several times a year > to make sure releases go smoother. Maybe more should do the same. To many mirror admins rely solely on automated scripts to make things happen, I understand that often it is not possible to do things otherwise but tier-1 mirrors should have dedicated admins willing to spend a little extra time around releases. > Overall, this release seems to be going a whole lot better than the > 4.3 release, and I think everyone involved deserves a round of applause > for making it happen. Especially the release engineering team. > I agree, it probably wasn't obvious in my first email but I think the people involved in making FreeBSD and getting it to us are doing a great job, I'm just trying to point out the rough edges and offering my help to make them smoother. Oli -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet Iceland inc. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 16:50:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987C437B40D for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08939 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:50:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12606; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:50:19 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200109192350.JAA12606@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: www.au waaay out of sync Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:50:19 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [I hope this is the right forum to mention this, I couldn't see anything that looked more appropriate, nor could I find an email address for the .au mirror admin. I'm not on this list either!] www.au.freebsd.org is seriously stale wrt the master site. Consider: http://www.au.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html (last entry dated Oct 2000) cf http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html (last entry dated Sep 2001) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 17:12:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au (sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au [130.220.227.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F5437B40B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sayersjm@localhost) by sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8K0CS834084; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:42:28 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Jarrod.Sayers@unisa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:42:28 +0930 (CST) From: Jarrod Sayers X-X-Sender: To: Gregory Bond Cc: Subject: Re: www.au waaay out of sync In-Reply-To: <200109192350.JAA12606@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: <20010920092242.R26674-100000@sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:50:19 +1000 > From: Gregory Bond > To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org > Subject: www.au waaay out of sync > > [I hope this is the right forum to mention this, I couldn't see anything that > looked more appropriate, nor could I find an email address for the .au mirror > admin. I'm not on this list either!] Yes, this would be the correct place to mention this. Does anyone have contact details for the .au.freebsd.org admin? Ive been trying to get cvsup and www aliases for our mirror but no-one's ever heard from them. > www.au.freebsd.org is seriously stale wrt the master site. I agree. > Consider: > http://www.au.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > (last entry dated Oct 2000) cf > http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > (last entry dated Sep 2001) Our web and cvsup mirror (freebsd.unisa.edu.au) is updated every 3 hours and it shows the release of 4.4. The ftp side carrys the ISO images too. The .au mirror Greg mentioned still states 4.3. Jarrod Sayers Information Technologist School of Communication, Information and New Media University of South Australia, Magill Campus. Phone: +61 8 83024045 Fax: +61 8 83024745 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 17:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8637B408 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.11.4/8.11.4/isnic) id f8K0DEM13835 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:13:14 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:13:14 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Access to ftp-master Message-ID: <20010920001314.B13092@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could you please set up access to ftp-master.freebsd.org for draupnir.rhnet.is This machine also has the name ftp1.is.freebsd.org (ftp.is is a CNAME to it) This is a tier-1 mirror wich is connected to RHnet wich has a 45Mb connection to NorduNET and 100-1000Mb peering connections within Iceland. Real Hostname: draupnir.rhnet.is (130.208.16.26) Admin: Olafur Osvaldsson Contact Email: ftpadm@rhnet.is Path: /pub/FreeBSD The machine also provides rsync access. Oli -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet Iceland inc. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 17:15:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BCC37B411 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8K0F3a01583; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:15:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:15:11 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Gregory Bond Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: www.au waaay out of sync In-Reply-To: <200109192350.JAA12606@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > [I hope this is the right forum to mention this, I couldn't see anything that > looked more appropriate, nor could I find an email address for the .au mirror > admin. I'm not on this list either!] > > www.au.freebsd.org is seriously stale wrt the master site. > > Consider: > http://www.au.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > (last entry dated Oct 2000) cf > http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > (last entry dated Sep 2001) i've contacted him - if i don't hear back in a couple of days, i'll talk to the freebsd.org dns admin(s) about changing delegation. there's a few changes that need to happen in au.freebsd.org regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 18:43:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from eden.ispol.com (eden.ispol.com [206.239.103.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC4037B412 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (grisha@localhost) by eden.ispol.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8K1bFB06589; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:37:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from grisha@verio.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eden.ispol.com: grisha owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" X-X-Sender: To: Mark Mayo Cc: Jesper Skriver , Subject: Re: 4.4 Availability In-Reply-To: <20010919150018.A40202@360networks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This fixed it, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately there was a complication during reboot and I had to drive out to where the server physically is, so it was down for almost an hour but now it's doing steady 98Mbps.... :-) Time for a GE link. Grisha On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Mark Mayo wrote: > I moved to > > options NMBCLUSTERS=32768 > > > > > ftp://ftp2.freebsd.org/etc/traffic-day.gif Grisha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Sep 19 19:28: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65F137B40D for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8K2S3M00937 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DB0380A; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Olafur Osvaldsson Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access to ftp-master In-Reply-To: <20010920001314.B13092@isnic.is> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:28:03 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010920022803.61DB0380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Done. You should have access to ftp/rsync/cvsupd now. Olafur Osvaldsson wrote: > Could you please set up access to ftp-master.freebsd.org for draupnir.rhnet.i s > This machine also has the name ftp1.is.freebsd.org (ftp.is is a CNAME to it) > > This is a tier-1 mirror wich is connected to RHnet wich has a 45Mb connection > to NorduNET and 100-1000Mb peering connections within Iceland. > > Real Hostname: draupnir.rhnet.is (130.208.16.26) > Admin: Olafur Osvaldsson > Contact Email: ftpadm@rhnet.is > Path: /pub/FreeBSD > > The machine also provides rsync access. > > Oli > > -- > Olafur Osvaldsson > Systems Administrator > Internet Iceland inc. > Tel: +354 525-5291 > Email: oli@isnic.is > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 2:14: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E89637B418 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D1E3E5D33; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:13:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:13:54 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Olafur Osvaldsson Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010920111354.C86655@skriver.dk> References: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919220128.F1469@isnic.is>; from oli@isnic.is on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 10:01:28PM +0000, Olafur Osvaldsson wrote: > 2. It is also strange that mirrors were allowed to start mirroring from > ftp-master before the maintainers finished uploading to the machine, > making the mirrors in some instances download hundreds of MB again when > it was decided to change the setup of the ISO-IMAGES dir. That was a mistake - but we're all humans. > 3. To my knowledge there were only 3 sites today (13:00 GMT) that had all of > 4.4 i386 iso images on their ftp server, ftp2.freebsd.org, ftp5.freebsd.org > and ftp.rhnet.is, but ftp.freebsd.org didn't have all. The box was overloaded, and had to be taken down for a memory upgrade, that killed a long running rsync run. > 4. The ftp.freebsd.org should ofcourse be some kind of a round-robin setup of > full-mirrors. That would be ideal ... > I would like to volunteer for a group wich had the task of redesigning the > ftp-release procedure and the setup of ftp.freebsd.org aliases. > > One idea I have is leaving the complete freebsd.org zone as-is and then adding > NS records for ftp.freebsd.org wich point to a set of servers running some > kind of software directing users to a site geographically closer. > This could be done in many ways, it could learn AS paths, or at the bare minimum > check out the TLD of the user and send him to ftp.TLD.freebsd.org or if not > available send the user to the ftp.TLD.freebsd.org server closest to his > country. When the former ftp.FreeBSD.org when down (and we setup the current one) - Peter Wemm talked about getting Akamai DNS for ftp.FreeBSD.org - I don't know if he got any resolution to that. If now we could try do work something out ourself - but if we can get the Akamai DNS sponsored, it would be ideal, as that works really good. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 6:10:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from eden.ispol.com (eden.ispol.com [206.239.103.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A391B37B421 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (grisha@localhost) by eden.ispol.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8KDAQ214787 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:10:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from grisha@verio.net) X-Authentication-Warning: eden.ispol.com: grisha owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release In-Reply-To: <20010920111354.C86655@skriver.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm curious why 4.4 release generated so much bandwidth - the 4.3 wasn't nearly as spectacular - ftp2 did may be 30Mb at peaks. With 4.4 (after I upped the membufs) it's been steady 99Mbps and it only eased off beetween 5am and 9am EDT. One theory I have is that many people are trying to download all the ISO images, and streaming a huge file the server can saturate the link a lot more efficiently. Another theory is that suddenly more people want to install FreeBSD. :-) Do other mirror operators think this release was unusually bandwidth intensive? Grisha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 6:15:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5864137B41C for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 06:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8KDEua26278; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:14:56 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 23:15:04 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > I'm curious why 4.4 release generated so much bandwidth - the 4.3 wasn't > nearly as spectacular - ftp2 did may be 30Mb at peaks. With 4.4 (after I > upped the membufs) it's been steady 99Mbps and it only eased off beetween > 5am and 9am EDT. 4.4 does have some historical significance. a number of people will upgrade and probably stay at 4.4 for quite a while through inertia based on that. there was also a perception among people i talked to that 4.3 was a relatively `minor' upgrade and some good stuff was being pushed back to 4.4's release. > Another theory is that suddenly more people want to install FreeBSD. :-) that's very likely - i think the opensource OS distros in general are becoming a lot more popular. > Do other mirror operators think this release was unusually bandwidth > intensive? significantly more than 4.3 - this time there was also slightly better co-ordination in that mirrors had access to ftp-master and there was some warning and pre-fetch happening before a full announce/ftp.freebsd.org was ready. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 8:39:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E16B37B419 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8KFdjq14136; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:39:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 11:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109201539.f8KFdjq14136@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release In-Reply-To: References: <20010920111354.C86655@skriver.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Do other mirror operators think this release was unusually bandwidth > intensive? Definitely. I put in a throttle on non-.edu users to slow down their .iso downloads. I can look back over a year and see that nothing in that time has taken this much bandwidth. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 10:23:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from xbox.ca.360networks.net (xbox.ca.360networks.net [64.251.100.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2059837B417 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by xbox.ca.360networks.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6C58F93401; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:23:08 -0700 From: Mark Mayo To: "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010920102308.A52422@360networks.net> References: <20010920111354.C86655@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from grisha@verio.net on Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:10:26AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 09:10:26AM -0400, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote: > > Do other mirror operators think this release was unusually bandwidth > intensive? Yip. I'm pushing about twice as much as the 4.3 release. The multiple ISO's is also a big addition on load, since a lot of people who do download more than 4.4-install.iso download them all in parallel.. So lots of connections. ISO images are a great service, but they sure do eat up bandwidth. Fun to watch, at least. Makes for some pretty graphs. ;) -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 15:25:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FA137B40A; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C136243D6; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:25:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010920172222.024f7688@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 17:24:30 -0500 To: "Andrew P. Lentvorski" , From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: FreeBSD mirror traffic report? Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:18 PM 9/20/2001 -0500, Andrew P. Lentvorski wrote: >Is there somewhere that shows the utilization or monitors the traffic at >the FreeBSD mirrors? I bet the folks at freebsd-hubs might be able to help you there. (cc: there) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 15:36:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AFB37B405 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8KMa2a23827; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:36:02 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 08:36:11 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Christopher Schulte Cc: "Andrew P. Lentvorski" , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD mirror traffic report? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010920172222.024f7688@pop.schulte.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Christopher Schulte wrote: > At 05:18 PM 9/20/2001 -0500, Andrew P. Lentvorski wrote: > >Is there somewhere that shows the utilization or monitors the traffic at > >the FreeBSD mirrors? > > I bet the folks at freebsd-hubs might be able to help you there. (cc: there) there's not a specific piece of software that does this. you can use analog or webalizer which takes apache style or wu-ftpd style accesslogs and xferlogs and produces reports. if you know what you're doing, you can also combine these stats with netflow data and get a better estimate of traffic. there isn't a single system in place to give an overall picture of traffic - but you can usually extrapolate based on the feedback from various mirror admins. -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 16:43:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tgd.net (rand.tgd.net [64.81.67.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 724BA37B416 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 92911 invoked by uid 1001); 20 Sep 2001 23:43:14 -0000 Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 16:43:14 -0700 From: Sean Chittenden To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup13.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20010920164314.A92840@rand.tgd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: 0x1EDDFAAD X-PGP-Fingerprint: C665 A17F 9A56 286C 5CFB 1DEA 9F4F 5CEF 1EDD FAAD X-Web-Homepage: http://sean.chittenden.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org <:~( Can the maintainer update this box? -sc CVSup update begins at 2001-09-20 16:41:08 Updating from cvsup13.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup13.freebsd.org Server cvsup13.freebsd.org has the S1G bug See http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/s1g/ for details Please notify the maintainer of cvsup13.freebsd.org Refusing update from server with S1G bug CVSup update ends at 2001-09-20 16:41:08 -- Sean Chittenden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 20:35:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A16037B405 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8L3Zng74196; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) id f8L3ZmZ93289; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109210335.f8L3ZmZ93289@vashon.polstra.com> To: hubs@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: sean@chittenden.org Subject: Re: cvsup13.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010920164314.A92840@rand.tgd.net> References: <20010920164314.A92840@rand.tgd.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <20010920164314.A92840@rand.tgd.net>, Sean Chittenden wrote: > <:~( Can the maintainer update this box? -sc You are writing to the wrong place. Please look up cvsup13 in the list of CVSup mirror sites which can be found in section A.6.7 of the FreeBSD Handbook. The maintainer's address is listed there. If he was reading -hubs, he would already be upgraded. Thanks, John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Sep 20 21:21:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A78F37B40D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8L4LpM04650 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A693D38FF; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jesper Skriver Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release In-Reply-To: <20010920111354.C86655@skriver.dk> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:51 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010921042151.A693D38FF@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > When the former ftp.FreeBSD.org when down (and we setup the current one) > - Peter Wemm talked about getting Akamai DNS for ftp.FreeBSD.org - I > don't know if he got any resolution to that. I have done a little more research on this. As I understand it, this would require a box on site at each mirror location running akamai's software that they can monitor and do their path mappings with. There are some other possibilities that i'm checking into as well. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 0: 5:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F33E37B419 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8L75QO16888 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:05:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4-RELEASE and ISO images now at ftp-master X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010921000526I.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:05:26 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 9 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Size info: jkh@ftp-master-> du -sk 4.4-RELEASE ISO-IMAGES/4.4 220439 4.4-RELEASE 991649 ISO-IMAGES/4.4 Come 'n get it! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 0:11:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A2B37B407; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8L7Bba27355; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:11:37 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:11:46 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE and ISO images now at ftp-master In-Reply-To: <20010921000526I.jkh@freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Size info: > > jkh@ftp-master-> du -sk 4.4-RELEASE ISO-IMAGES/4.4 > 220439 4.4-RELEASE > 991649 ISO-IMAGES/4.4 > > Come 'n get it! we did! :-) planetmirror.com aka ftp.au.freebsd.org has a complete 4.4-RELEASE, ISO-IMAGES/4.4 and packages-4.4-release/ for other sites in australia and new zealand that might want to update. however we're somewhat swamped at the moment by freebsd 4.4 downloaders and wolf3d, CS1.3 and mandrake 8.1 downloads. (which is why i'm flying interstate on monday to add a gigabit card to the server cluster which has completely swamped a 100Mbit link). alternatively, you can mirror from ftp2.au.freebsd.org (aka mirror.aarnet) which isn't quite as hammered and also supports ftp/rsync access. please drop me an email if you have problems or need to get access. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 2:24:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au (sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au [130.220.227.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB6037B406 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 02:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sayersjm@localhost) by sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8L9Nck15449; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:53:39 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from Jarrod.Sayers@unisa.edu.au) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:53:38 +0930 (CST) From: Jarrod Sayers X-X-Sender: To: jason andrade Cc: Gregory Bond , Subject: Re: www.au waaay out of sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010921184512.L475-100000@sanctuary.magill.unisa.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, jason andrade wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:15:11 +1000 (EST) > From: jason andrade > To: Gregory Bond > Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: www.au waaay out of sync > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > [I hope this is the right forum to mention this, I couldn't see anything that > > looked more appropriate, nor could I find an email address for the .au mirror > > admin. I'm not on this list either!] > > > > www.au.freebsd.org is seriously stale wrt the master site. > > > > Consider: > > http://www.au.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > > (last entry dated Oct 2000) cf > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html > > (last entry dated Sep 2001) > > i've contacted him - if i don't hear back in a couple of days, i'll > talk to the freebsd.org dns admin(s) about changing delegation. > > there's a few changes that need to happen in au.freebsd.org Changes have been made ive noticed. Can someone tell me who I should be contacting bout getting cvsup# and www# aliases made, ive tryed for a while now and no responce from the .au.freebsd.org admin. Also: builder# host www2.au.freebsd.org www2.au.freebsd.org is a nickname for www3.au.freebsd.org www3.au.freebsd.org has address 203.17.49.68 www3.au.freebsd.org has address 203.17.49.68 builder# host www3.au.freebsd.org www3.au.freebsd.org has address 203.17.49.68 Should there be a review .au zone? Seems like there is alot of covering up from old/shutdown/outdated servers and attempts from people genually concerned and able to provide quality mirrors are going unnoticed. I run the only known (appologies if im wrong) mirror in South Australia - freebsd.unisa.edu.au, WWW and CVSup (FTP only carries the ISO images). Just my $0.02 ex GST. Jarrod Sayers Information Technologist School of Communication, Information and New Media University of South Australia, Magill Campus. Phone: +61 8 83024045 Fax: +61 8 83024745 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 6:22:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B823637B417 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 06:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (#6@localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8LDLOZ04145; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:21:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200109211321.f8LDLOZ04145@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release References: <20010921042151.A693D38FF@overcee.netplex.com.au> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:21:51 PDT." <20010921042151.A693D38FF@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 09:21:24 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > When the former ftp.FreeBSD.org when down (and we setup the current one) > > - Peter Wemm talked about getting Akamai DNS for ftp.FreeBSD.org - I > > don't know if he got any resolution to that. > > I have done a little more research on this. As I understand it, this would > require a box on site at each mirror location running akamai's software > that they can monitor and do their path mappings with. Not strictly true; it requires one of their boxes topologically "nearby" on the Internet with substantially similar connectivity. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 6:44:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from amun.isnic.is (amun.isnic.is [193.4.58.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BB337B41B for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 06:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from oli@localhost) by amun.isnic.is (8.11.6/8.11.6/isnic) id f8LDhtl28942; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:43:55 GMT (envelope-from oli) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:43:55 +0000 From: Olafur Osvaldsson To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Peter Wemm , Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release Message-ID: <20010921134355.B18522@isnic.is> References: <20010921042151.A693D38FF@overcee.netplex.com.au> <200109211321.f8LDLOZ04145@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109211321.f8LDLOZ04145@whizzo.transsys.com>; from louie@TransSys.COM on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 09:21:24AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For me this would be easy, we have a Akamai cluster on the same subnet as the ftp server :) But my guess is that not everyone has Akamai on their network... Oli On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > > > When the former ftp.FreeBSD.org when down (and we setup the current one) > > > - Peter Wemm talked about getting Akamai DNS for ftp.FreeBSD.org - I > > > don't know if he got any resolution to that. > > > > I have done a little more research on this. As I understand it, this would > > require a box on site at each mirror location running akamai's software > > that they can monitor and do their path mappings with. > > Not strictly true; it requires one of their boxes topologically "nearby" > on the Internet with substantially similar connectivity. > > louie > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Olafur Osvaldsson Systems Administrator Internet Iceland inc. Tel: +354 525-5291 Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 7:10:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A11B37B41B for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 07:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (#6@localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8LE9TZ04463; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:09:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200109211409.f8LE9TZ04463@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Olafur Osvaldsson Cc: Peter Wemm , Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: The 4.4 FTP Release References: <20010921042151.A693D38FF@overcee.netplex.com.au> <200109211321.f8LDLOZ04145@whizzo.transsys.com> <20010921134355.B18522@isnic.is> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:43:55 -0000." <20010921134355.B18522@isnic.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:09:29 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The akamai hardware doesn't have to be very close. Without disclosing too many details, part of what they do is cluster groups of IP address prefixes which are more-or-less equivilant in performance. Thesed clustered address also would logically include one of their monitoring systems used to measure performance from that part of the Internet to various other parts (where people requesting content might be). The nearer you are to the systems doing measurement, the better the result you get. Of course, if the alternatives are far way, the degree of precsion required isn't all that high. In the analysis that I did with some folks at work looking at this technology, we concluded that you don't need the "right answer", just one that's "close enough" when choosing amoung a set of delivery platforms with the content the requestor want. In fact, on many networks, the main source of congestion is the list mile to the user, or perhaps crossing peering points. What you're really after is scalable content delivery, and the bonus is serving up the content from someplace that's not stupidly far away. louie > For me this would be easy, we have a Akamai cluster on the same subnet as > the ftp server :) > But my guess is that not everyone has Akamai on their network... > > Oli > > On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > > > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > > > > > When the former ftp.FreeBSD.org when down (and we setup the current one) > > > > - Peter Wemm talked about getting Akamai DNS for ftp.FreeBSD.org - I > > > > don't know if he got any resolution to that. > > > > > > I have done a little more research on this. As I understand it, this would > > > require a box on site at each mirror location running akamai's software > > > that they can monitor and do their path mappings with. > > > > Not strictly true; it requires one of their boxes topologically "nearby" > > on the Internet with substantially similar connectivity. > > > > louie > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message > > -- > Olafur Osvaldsson > Systems Administrator > Internet Iceland inc. > Tel: +354 525-5291 > Email: oli@isnic.is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 13:53:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from panther.cs.ucla.edu (Panther.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93ED337B40C for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from free.fr (goldfish [131.179.160.134]) by panther.cs.ucla.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/UCLACS-5.1) with ESMTP id f8LKrH102033 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:53:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BABA8B6.2E69F4C1@free.fr> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:53:10 -0700 From: Shill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Routing problem? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9BEDECDDE4C07BF769A91B97" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9BEDECDDE4C07BF769A91B97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Included is a traceroute to ftp.freebsd.org --------------9BEDECDDE4C07BF769A91B97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="loop.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="loop.txt" 1 cisco160-1.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.160.3) 0.391 ms 0.253 ms 0.242 ms 2 cbn-faste.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.12.1) 0.815 ms 0.683 ms 0.737 ms 3 cbn7-ci7200-1msa.cbn.ucla.edu (169.232.3.9) 1.416 ms 0.971 ms 1.762 ms 4 169.232.35.2 (169.232.35.2) 3.963 ms 3.952 ms 3.404 ms 5 lax-edge-08.inet.qwest.net (63.149.192.161) 4.725 ms 4.846 ms 4.542 ms 6 lax-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.19.141) 4.6 ms 4.485 ms 5.07 ms 7 sjo-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.155) 13.002 ms 11.593 ms 11.801 ms 8 sjo-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net (205.171.22.121) 12.885 ms 12.55 ms 12.435 ms 9 205.171.4.98 (205.171.4.98) 14.645 ms 14.442 ms 14.704 ms 10 175.at-6-0-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.190) 18.445 ms 18.303 ms 19.944 ms 11 284.ATM6-0.XR2.SFO4.ALTER.NET (152.63.50.46) 21.285 ms 22.067 ms 22.408 ms 12 190.ATM7-0.GW5.SJC2.ALTER.NET (146.188.144.53) 24.671 ms 24.547 ms 24.536 ms 13 157.130.229.118 (157.130.229.118) 92.386 ms 92.039 ms 92.23 ms 14 ny-b2-pos1-0.telia.net (209.95.159.26) 91.203 ms 91.507 ms 91.376 ms 15 ny-i5-pos1-0.telia.net (209.95.129.209) 92.51 ms 92.225 ms 92.354 ms 16 teledanmark-2.k.telia.net (209.95.129.218) 199.683 ms 200.654 ms 202.097 ms 17 pos4-1.155M.albnxg1.ip.tele.dk (195.249.13.73) 188.721 ms 187.859 ms 189.212 ms 18 pos7-0.2488M.arcnxg1.ip.tele.dk (195.249.6.126) 200.47 ms 201.815 ms 200.12 ms 19 pos4-0.2488M.opanxg1.ip.tele.dk (195.249.2.162) 188.079 ms 188.164 ms 187.395 ms 20 ge2-2.1000M.d3.opa.tdk.net (193.163.158.169) 202.078 ms 201.33 ms 201.799 ms 21 cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 188.672 ms 190.645 ms 188.904 ms 22 cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 188.691 ms * 189.316 ms 23 * cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 190.252 ms * 24 * cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 188.832 ms * 25 cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 189.953 ms * 188.683 ms 26 * cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 189.647 ms * 27 * * * 28 cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 188.674 ms * * 29 * cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 189.657 ms * 30 cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) 188.889 ms * 189.693 ms --------------9BEDECDDE4C07BF769A91B97-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 13:56: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD9837B40B for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2373D5DA6; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:55:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:55:59 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Shill Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Routing problem? Message-ID: <20010921225559.A6427@skriver.dk> References: <3BABA8B6.2E69F4C1@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BABA8B6.2E69F4C1@free.fr>; from shill@free.fr on Fri, Sep 21, 2001 at 01:53:10PM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No - you're blocking the ICMP admin unreachables that cat6k5-6.inet.tele.dk (193.163.159.231) is sending to you. Short: there's a filter in front of ftp.FreeBSD.org that only allow ftp, and not things like traceroute. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 14:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F42C37B418 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8LLd1F29593; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:39:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109212139.f8LLd1F29593@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup3/ftp5 downtime this weekend Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If all goes well -- and it looks to be at the moment -- cvsup3/ftp5 will receive a significant computron upgrade this weekend. I expect service to be unavailable for four to six hours while the filesystems are transferred to the new machine and storage array. I will send a note to this mailing-list before the work begins and after it is completed. Thanks for your patience. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Sep 21 17:13:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (owlstation.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F4A37B41D for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu (workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.95]) by owlstation.cslab.vt.edu (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8M0DHR08640 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:13:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu) Received: from workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0/Debian -2) with ESMTP id f8M0DINd001078 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:13:18 -0400 Received: (from wkurdzio@localhost) by workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu (8.12.0/8.12.0/Debian -2) id f8M0DE8q001076; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:13:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: workstation-95.cslab.vt.edu: wkurdzio set sender to wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu using -f Subject: ftp3 offline 09-22-2001 From: Wes Kurdziolek To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Fsnh0qeUrW7bSQuBP4wi" X-Mailer: Evolution/0.13 (Preview Release) Date: 21 Sep 2001 20:13:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1001117594.848.22.camel@workstation-95> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=-Fsnh0qeUrW7bSQuBP4wi Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ftp3 will be participating in an InstallFest 09-22-2001 and will therefore be offline for most of that day. Apologies for any inconvenience. --=20 Wes Kurdziolek Virginia Tech Computer Science Lab UNIX System Administrator E-mail: wkurdzio@cslab.vt.edu Voice: +1 (540) 231-3457 Office: 116A McBryde Hall http://www.cslab.vt.edu/ --=-Fsnh0qeUrW7bSQuBP4wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA7q9eaTivFA0955dsRAg1UAJ93cOwW7bYaSLQev+0fVEKAwZdc0wCfRz1u 9SEGGcoHkU74beK5ACtB2v4= =d4p2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Fsnh0qeUrW7bSQuBP4wi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Sep 22 9:10:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E23C37B421 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id AA23C4B667; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 09:10:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Subject: New 4.4-install.iso and 4.4-mini.iso (x86) Message-ID: <20010922091032.H26542@windriver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I accidentally left the tools directory off of the x86 install and mini ISO images so I had to remaster and reupload them to ftp-master. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Sep 22 11:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5340B37B403 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8MIHub40922; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:17:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:17:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109221817.f8MIHub40922@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup3/ftp5 downtime this weekend In-Reply-To: <200109212139.f8LLd1F29593@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200109212139.f8LLd1F29593@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As promised yesterday, I'm about to take cvsup3/ftp5 down to replace the machine and disks that it lives on. This process will take approximately six hours. I'll send another message when service is restored. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Sep 22 17:10:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D686A37B44B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8N0A1a19743 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:10:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:10:11 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade To: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: planetmirror.com (aka {ftp,www}.au.freebsd.org downtime) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 1.0 (http://www.roaringpenguin.com/mimedefang/) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i'll be taking planetmirror.com down for upgrades (adding some more disk and gigabit ethernet and patching the OS) on monday (23/09/2001). downtime should hopefully only be a couple of hours. regards, -jason To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sat Sep 22 17:57:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC15737B41A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8N0vSf45374; Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:57:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 20:57:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200109230057.f8N0vSf45374@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup3/ftp5 downtime this weekend In-Reply-To: <200109221817.f8MIHub40922@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <200109212139.f8LLd1F29593@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <200109221817.f8MIHub40922@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < As promised yesterday, I'm about to take cvsup3/ftp5 down to replace > the machine and disks that it lives on. I have now brought up the new machine and everything seems to be operating normally (or as close as possible, anyway). For those following along at home, it did in fact take about six hours to copy over all 624,039 files, directories, and symbolic links (totalling about 62 GBytes) from the old archive disks to the new RAID array. Only about 2/3 of that is FreeBSD, and those files will be moving back to the old disks within a week or so (but with a filesystem layout that will provide much more space). Current stats on the cvsup mirror are as follows: /dev/da1s1d 3.9G 2.3G 1.3G 63% 168612 350554 32% /u I'll be watching performance closely to see how the new machine is working out. (By rights it should be about 2-1/2 times faster for cvsup, and about the same for ftp.) -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message