From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 3 8: 7:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cleanwhisker.420.am (cleanwhisker.420.am [205.179.65.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5522237B403 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivan@420.am) Received: (qmail 5484 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Jun 2001 15:07:25 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:07:25 -0700 From: ivan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ANNOUNCE: Freeside 1.3.1 Message-ID: <20010603080725.C5135@cleanwhisker.420.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm happy to announce the release of Freeside 1.3.1. Freeside is an open-source billing and account administration package for ISPs. You can download the new version, read the documentation, and play with a web demo at . 1.3.1 is a bugfix release which fixes all currently known problems with 1.3.0. If the 1.3.0 verison gave you problems, give this version a try. New features of the 1.3.x series include: - Database transactions - Web aging reports - Export of BIND and Apache configuration files. - Session monitor to track and limit usage on a time (hourly/"minutely") basis. This can be used, with RADIUS, to keep track of NAS ports, and can also be used to implement hotel- or cafe- type access, where the user must sign in on a webpage before being granted access to the network. In conjunction with the session server, prepaid cards can now be for an amount of time rather than money. Enjoy! -- meow _ivan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 3 8:19:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cleanwhisker.420.am (cleanwhisker.420.am [205.179.65.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E67DC37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivan@420.am) Received: (qmail 6192 invoked by uid 1000); 3 Jun 2001 15:19:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:19:34 -0700 From: ivan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freeside Message-ID: <20010603081933.A5744@cleanwhisker.420.am> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Bsdguru@aol.com on Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:59:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:59:11PM -0400, Bsdguru@aol.com wrote: > Is anyone using this package with FreeBSD? Every now-and-again I fire up vmware and make sure things work okay. Since all the of the things Freeside's based on work fine on fbsd (Perl, PostgreSQL, Apache, etc.), there's really no chance it'll suddenly stop working or anything... :) > Opinions? I'm obviously biased. > Can you bill based on bandwidth usage with it? Yep, you can bill based on any sort of metered-data, but you need to have the data available. -- meow _ivan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 3 21:47:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9072A37B401 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010604044745.JYFG14869.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net> for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:47:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:47:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: rsync one file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know I must be missing something simple here, but I can't seem to get this quite right. What would you add to this in order to fetch a single file? rsync -e ssh -avz user@remote.machine.com::module /usr/dir/ Thanks, -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 4 0:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B448F37B40A; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010604074116.NDPT14869.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net>; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 00:41:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 03:41:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Phillip Salzman Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rsync one file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK ;-) This will use rsync's authentication method which is more compatible with cron. #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/rsync -avze ssh \ --include=desired.file --exclude=* \ --password-file=/path/to/rsync/passwd/file \ rsync-user@remote.server.com::module \ /destination/directory/ I appreciate your response though, thanks again, -- Jim Weeks On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Phillip Salzman wrote: > Because it's dropping to an ssh-tunnel(like) system and using the SSH > authentication. > > > --- > Phillip Salzman > phill@FreeBSD.Org > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > -- Albert Einstein > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > Thanks ;-) > > > > This works, but why does it circumvent rsync's authentication? > > > > -- > > Jim Weeks > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > > > Try: > > > > > > rsync -avze "ssh" user@hostname:file /path/to/dir/ > > > > > > or > > > > > > rsync -avze "ssh" user@hostname:/path/to/file /path/to/dir/or/file > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Phillip Salzman > > > phill@FreeBSD.Org > > > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > > > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > > > -- Albert Einstein > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > I know I must be missing something simple here, but I can't seem to get > > > > this quite right. What would you add to this in order to fetch a single > > > > file? > > > > > > > > rsync -e ssh -avz user@remote.machine.com::module /usr/dir/ > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jim Weeks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 4 7:14: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sparcticus.sysctl.net (sparcticus.sysctl.net [216.83.242.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719E137B405 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 07:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by sparcticus.sysctl.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f54DXmd06755; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sparcticus.sysctl.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:33:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Salzman X-X-Sender: To: Jim Weeks Cc: Subject: Re: rsync one file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That looks about right. I've normally used the identity/authorized_keys for that sort of thing in SSH though. --- Phillip Salzman phill@FreeBSD.Org http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? -------------------------------------------------------------- "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." -- Albert Einstein -------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > OK ;-) > > This will use rsync's authentication method which is more compatible > with cron. > > #!/bin/sh > > /usr/local/bin/rsync -avze ssh \ > --include=desired.file --exclude=* \ > --password-file=/path/to/rsync/passwd/file \ > rsync-user@remote.server.com::module \ > /destination/directory/ > > I appreciate your response though, thanks again, > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > Because it's dropping to an ssh-tunnel(like) system and using the SSH > > authentication. > > > > > > --- > > Phillip Salzman > > phill@FreeBSD.Org > > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > > -- Albert Einstein > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > Thanks ;-) > > > > > > This works, but why does it circumvent rsync's authentication? > > > > > > -- > > > Jim Weeks > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > > > > > Try: > > > > > > > > rsync -avze "ssh" user@hostname:file /path/to/dir/ > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > rsync -avze "ssh" user@hostname:/path/to/file /path/to/dir/or/file > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Phillip Salzman > > > > phill@FreeBSD.Org > > > > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > > > > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > > > > -- Albert Einstein > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know I must be missing something simple here, but I can't seem to get > > > > > this quite right. What would you add to this in order to fetch a single > > > > > file? > > > > > > > > > > rsync -e ssh -avz user@remote.machine.com::module /usr/dir/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jim Weeks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 4 12:25:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net (h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net [209.17.128.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6575137B409 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@justbrent.net) Received: (qmail 55897 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Jun 2001 19:28:28 -0000 Received: from h24-76-109-116.vc.shawcable.net (HELO cr565151-a.vc.shawcable.net) (24.76.109.116) by h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 19:28:28 -0000 From: Brent Rector Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <20010604.19281186@cr565151-a.vc.shawcable.net> Subject: Virtual Hosts and Apache Logs ?? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Win32) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Everyone! I am trying to figure out how to compile a report for total transfer=20= statistics for our virtual domains in apache.. My current config for=20= virtualhosts is as follows: Servername www.somdomain.com ServerAlias somdomain.com DocumentRoot /usr/home/somdomain CustomLog /usr/logs/somdomain-acess.log combined CustomLog /usr/logs/master-access.log combined ### <- this one is the=20= master one I have setup From the reading I have done I can add a %v to the logformat command, bu= t=20 how on earth do I get webalizer and/or analog to spit out the reports.. = They both complain about the date field being incorrect. ??? ;( Any help would be greatly appreciated. Brent Rector To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 4 14: 0:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net (h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net [209.17.128.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D6AA37B405 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@justbrent.net) Received: (qmail 56317 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Jun 2001 21:03:27 -0000 Received: from h24-76-109-116.vc.shawcable.net (HELO cr565151-a.vc.shawcable.net) (24.76.109.116) by h209-17-128-144.gtconnect.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 21:03:27 -0000 From: Brent Rector Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:03:12 GMT Message-ID: <20010604.21031275@cr565151-a.vc.shawcable.net> Subject: Someone wanted a customer support tracking system To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2;Win32) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Available from www.cgi-resources.com Programs and Scripts: Perl: Customer Support:=20 Castle Support Version: 1.2=20 An easy to use, yet advanced support management system. Users=20 submit support requests, which can be easily replied to, closed,=20 or forwarded. Includes subject grouping and a powerful permissions=20 manager to provide access to only the areas you wish. Also has the=20 ability to store user's information.=20 Hope this helps. Brent Rector SysAdmin justBrent.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 5 8: 8:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EAE37B405 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enriko.groen@netivity.nl) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:08:51 +0200 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A0247252622F778B@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Routing over two 'channels' Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:08:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to find a solution. My company is a small hosting provider and I'm introducing some FreeBSD boxes. However I ran into a problem. We have several internet connections: fiber, ADSL and cable. I currently have one firewall which I would like to route traffic to/from our servers to the different connections. The firewall is a FreeBSD 4.2 box. Is there a way to do some intelligent routing? I would like the firewall to talk back through the channel it was connected through. So if a client connects through the ip attached to the ADSL modem, it talks back through the same channel as the request came through. Can this be done by some routing program, or maybe NAT. Or should I look into a standalone prefab router? Any suggestion are welcome. -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen@netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle -------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 5 11: 1:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BD9037B401 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alson@mediadesign.nl) Received: (qmail 15728 invoked by uid 1002); 5 Jun 2001 18:01:07 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:01:07 +0200 From: Alson van der Meulen To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Routing over two 'channels' Message-ID: <20010605200106.N15640@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" References: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A0247252622F778B@NETIVITY-FS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A0247252622F778B@NETIVITY-FS>; from enriko.groen@netivity.nl on Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 05:08:50PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 05:08:50PM +0200, Enriko Groen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to find a solution. My company is a small hosting provider and > I'm introducing some FreeBSD boxes. However I ran into a problem. We have > several internet connections: > fiber, ADSL and cable. I currently have one firewall which I would like to > route traffic to/from our servers to the different connections. The firewall > is a FreeBSD 4.2 box. > > Is there a way to do some intelligent routing? I would like the firewall to > talk back through the channel it was connected through. So if a client > connects through the ip attached to the ADSL modem, it talks back through > the same channel as the request came through. > > Can this be done by some routing program, or maybe NAT. Or should I look > into a standalone prefab router? Any suggestion are welcome. just doing doing destination NAT (masquerade the source ip) should do the trick, the same idea as using source NAT to have multiple local boxes use the same public ip, with destination NAT multiple public ip's are NATted to one private IP doesn't appear very difficult to me... I might be overlooking something though... with ipnat it would be something like: (xl0 is local interface, ep0 and ep1 are remote) xl0 has ip 10.0.0.1 ep0 has ip 1.2.3.4 ep1 has ip 5.6.7.8 map xl0 1.2.3.4/32 -> 10.0.0.1/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map xl0 1.2.3.4/32 -> 10.0.0.1/32 map xl0 5.6.7.8/32 -> 10.0.0.1/32 portmap tcp/udp 40000:60000 map xl0 5.6.7.8/32 -> 10.0.0.1/32 (please correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't really test this setup) I'm not sure how to handle this if you've multiple public ip's that should be mapped to multiple local servers, read the ipnat docs/examples, I guess there's some example of DNAT there... at least with linux' iptables it would be trivial, so i guess ipnat or natd can do it too I guess with natd it would be something similair, but I don't really know natd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 5 11: 8:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f166.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1E937B401; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jautajums@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:08:23 -0700 Received: from 195.13.202.200 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2001 18:08:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.13.202.200] From: "Vienkarsi Jautajums" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: virtual ip addreses Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:08:23 +0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2001 18:08:23.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[82D2FF10:01C0EDEA] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I configured multiple ip addreses on FreeBSD box through ifconfig .. alias option, im looking if there is posibility to make one of thouse virtual ip addresses "default" for specific user .. eg. I want to make system where user connects to shell runns his own stuff and by default outgoing/incoming connections for his runned processes are going from one of those virtual ips. Can it be done wih some enviroment variable or somethin .. ? wbr Uldis _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 5 21:51:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B503D37B408 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needo@cerebro.superhero.org) Received: (qmail 19041 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 2001 04:51:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerebro.superhero.org) (216.201.173.186) by ns2.sohos.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 04:51:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 580 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Jun 2001 04:52:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 23:52:27 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: rsync for mirroring Message-ID: <20010605235227.A500@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Jacob: Hi Jacob! X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm currently trying to keep two servers as semi-updated mirrors of each other. The plan is to have rsync keep the directories in sync via ssh. For security reasons I have created two plain joe users whose only exceptional capability is the ability to login to the other machine without being prompted for a password using ssh. Now my issue is that using rsync -avz -e "ssh -l /path/to/identify" /path user@domain:/path Does not work. Using this line it still prompts for a password. I would rather not have to give joe user anymore access then he absolutley has to have. I would prefer to be able to run rsync as root just using joe user's identify files. Any idea on how to accomplish, this or an alternative would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- Erich Zigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 5 22:13:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peppermint.national.com.au (peppermint.national.com.au [203.57.240.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9E337B405 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 22:13:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@websupp.nabaus.com.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by peppermint.national.com.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA21000; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:13:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from websupp.national.com.au(164.53.27.37), claiming to be "websupp.nabaus.com.au" via SMTP by peppermint, id smtpdAAAIpaW_O; Wed Jun 6 15:13:32 2001 Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by websupp.nabaus.com.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA06944; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:13:34 +1000 (EST) From: Enno Davids Message-Id: <200106060513.PAA06944@websupp.nabaus.com.au> Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: <20010605235227.A500@superhero.org> from Erich Zigler at "Jun 5, 1 11:52:27 pm" To: erichz@superhero.org (Erich Zigler) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:13:34 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | Now my issue is that using rsync -avz -e "ssh -l /path/to/identify" /path | user@domain:/path | | Does not work. Using this line it still prompts for a password. I would rather | not have to give joe user anymore access then he absolutley has to have. I | would prefer to be able to run rsync as root just using joe user's identify | files. Try just using ssh -v to get the login with RSA auth (or whichever method you're using) bit working. Then make rsync work over that transport. Basically, this is an ssh config problem the way you're doing things. You may need to change the way ssh is configured for your user ID of choice. We do much the same thing here except we run as the transfer user (i.e. change user id first and then invoke rsync/ssh to do the xfer). Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 1:49:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrdp.com (harp.dublin.wrdp.net [212.147.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A2B37B408 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jraftery@wrdp.com) Received: from jraftery (jraftery.dublin.wrdp.net [172.16.4.52]) by mail.wrdp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C8992D783 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:49:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <002701c0ee65$9075a2f0$340410ac@jraftery> From: "James Raftery" To: References: <20010605235227.A500@superhero.org> Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:49:14 +0100 Organization: Worldport Communications Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Zigler" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:52 AM Subject: rsync for mirroring > The plan is to have rsync keep the directories in sync via ssh. For security > reasons I have created two plain joe users whose only exceptional capability > is the ability to login to the other machine without being prompted for a > password using ssh. > > Now my issue is that using rsync -avz -e "ssh -l /path/to/identify" /path > user@domain:/path The flag to specify an alternative identity file is -i, not -l. Use -l to specify an alternative remote username. Regards, james To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 2:30:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aries.ai.net (aries.ai.net [205.134.163.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE2737B406 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 02:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Received: from blood (adsl-138-88-76-226.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [138.88.76.226]) by aries.ai.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA17731 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:30:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from deepak@ai.net) Reply-To: From: "Deepak Jain" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: FW: New error - lost data? Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:34:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've never seen this error. Its been occuring randomly on this machine, sometimes as often as every few minutes, sometimes days apart. Others have seen this error (based on a Google search) but nothing recent and nothing that conclusive. Any assistance would be appreciated! Thanks, Deepak Jain AiNET Jun 5 01:02:56 play /kernel: panic: malloc: lost data Jun 5 01:02:56 play /kernel: Jun 5 01:02:56 play /kernel: syncing disks... 440 440 440 440 440 440 440 440 Jun 5 01:02:56 play /kernel: giving up on 433 buffers Jun 5 01:02:56 play /kernel: Uptime: 3m11s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 3: 4:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E445D37B407 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:04:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157jZV-0001i0-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:06:29 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:05:41 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Howzit going ? We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 network. We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What scalability do these wireless products have ? Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 3: 8:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from donald-duck.ele.tue.nl (Donald-Duck.ele.tue.nl [131.155.192.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B4D37B403 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bart@luon.net) Received: from bart by donald-duck.ele.tue.nl with local-esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 157aEk-0003Bn-00; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:08:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:08:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Bart X-Sender: bart@donald-duck.ele.tue.nl To: David Wilson Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless LAN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, David Wilson wrote: > Hi all, Howzit going ? Hi David! > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > network. > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > scalability do these wireless products have ? I have no experience with wireless LAN's but I'm wondering why you want to move your servers in a wireless LAN ? I can understand that wireless LAN for workstations (laptops, etc) are a blessing for users but servers ? With regards, Bart Pustjens To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 3: 8:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from newcolo.invictanet.co.uk (newcolo.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.63.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E7D37B405 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harryhome (invictanet.claranet.co.uk [213.253.17.74]) (authenticated) by newcolo.invictanet.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f56A8fm38414; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:08:41 +0100 (BST) From: "InvictaNet Customer Support" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Cc: "David Wilson" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I may be wrong, but..... AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Wireless LAN Hi all, Howzit going ? We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 network. We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What scalability do these wireless products have ? Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 3:41:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2DE37B40F for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 03:41:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157k9M-0002dj-00; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:43:32 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" , "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:42:44 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Thanks for getting back to me, It gets rid of cabling issues etc. Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 To: Freebsd-ISP Cc: David Wilson Subject: RE: Wireless LAN I may be wrong, but..... AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Wireless LAN Hi all, Howzit going ? We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 network. We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What scalability do these wireless products have ? Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 5:29:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB8937B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:29:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010606122918.OERU29059.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net>; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 05:29:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:29:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: <20010605235227.A500@superhero.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Erich, I found this article very helpful http://www.freebsddiary.org/rsync.php You should be able to run the daemon fairly securely as (uid root) and (gid wheel) as long as you follow the directions in the security section. You should also set (list=false) in order to protect the names of your modules. I should think that with the anonymity of your rsync user-name (which by the way does not have to coincide with any system user-name), hidden password and hidden module names combined with ssh encryption, you should be fairly secure. good luck, -- Jim Weeks On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Erich Zigler wrote: > I'm currently trying to keep two servers as semi-updated mirrors of each > other. > > The plan is to have rsync keep the directories in sync via ssh. For security > reasons I have created two plain joe users whose only exceptional capability > is the ability to login to the other machine without being prompted for a > password using ssh. > > Now my issue is that using rsync -avz -e "ssh -l /path/to/identify" /path > user@domain:/path > > Does not work. Using this line it still prompts for a password. I would rather > not have to give joe user anymore access then he absolutley has to have. I > would prefer to be able to run rsync as root just using joe user's identify > files. > > Any idea on how to accomplish, this or an alternative would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thank you. > > -- > Erich Zigler > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7: 9:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612FD37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:09:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157nOw-0008Se-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:11:50 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "Andy [Tecc Nops]" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:11:01 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Andy, Hehe ;-) Thanks for that info. Say when went for a 10mb setup then, what product would you recommend ? Thanks for the help so far. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: Andy [Tecc Nops] [mailto:andy@tecc.co.uk] Sent: 06 June 2001 12:49 To: David Wilson Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Only if you want to microwave everyone to death at their machines and you have a budget that would cover a seven/eight figure sum ;) Ak > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > Sent: 06 June 2001 11:43 > To: InvictaNet Customer Support; Freebsd-ISP > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > Hi Thanks for getting back to me, > > It gets rid of cabling issues etc. > Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? > > > > > Regards > David Wilson > Technical Support Centre > The S.A Internet > 0860 100 869 > www.sai.co.za > > -----Original Message----- > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] > Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 > To: Freebsd-ISP > Cc: David Wilson > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > I may be wrong, but..... > AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you > would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? > > Martyn Routley > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 08707 440180 > fax: 08707 440181 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Wireless LAN > > > Hi all, Howzit going ? > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > network. > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > arrangement. > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards > David Wilson > Technical Support Centre > The S.A Internet > 0860 100 869 > www.sai.co.za > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:17:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from crdras.crd.ge.COM (crdras.crd.GE.COM [192.35.44.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE6737B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lapinski@crd.ge.com) Received: from crdras.crd.ge.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crdras.crd.ge.COM (18xxx/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26192 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crdns.crd.ge.com (crdns [3.1.7.107]) by crdras.crd.ge.COM (25/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26180; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exc01crdge.crd.ge.com (exc01crdge.crd.ge.com [3.1.116.47]) by crdns.crd.ge.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22504; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exc01crdge.crd.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:17:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Lapinski, Michael (CRD)" To: "'David Wilson'" , InvictaNet Customer Support , Freebsd-ISP Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:17:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is work underway to develop 54mbit wireless products that that run at the 5GHZ band but as far as I recall they wont even be on the market for another year. That is the fastest I've heard for local wireless LANs -mtl -----Original Message----- From: David Wilson [mailto:dave@sai.co.za] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:43 AM To: InvictaNet Customer Support; Freebsd-ISP Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Hi Thanks for getting back to me, It gets rid of cabling issues etc. Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 To: Freebsd-ISP Cc: David Wilson Subject: RE: Wireless LAN I may be wrong, but..... AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Wireless LAN Hi all, Howzit going ? We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 network. We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What scalability do these wireless products have ? Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:19:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E06737B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needo@cerebro.superhero.org) Received: (qmail 29670 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 2001 14:19:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerebro.superhero.org) (216.201.173.186) by ns2.sohos.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 14:19:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 2279 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Jun 2001 14:20:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:20:31 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Message-ID: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , FreeBSD Mailing List References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dave@sai.co.za on Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Jacob: Hi Jacob! X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200, David Wilson wrote: > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > network. > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > scalability do these wireless products have ? > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. I would look seriously at the Lucent Orinoco product line located at http://www.orinoco.com I have had experience with these products before and have gotten them setup easily and quickly in FreeBSD and Windows. My guess is Linux wouldn't be to much of a stretch. -- Erich Zigler Adults are just kids who owe money To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE7D37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f56EO8j06798; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "Erich Zigler" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:21:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd rather have cigars than wireless. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Zigler" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200, David Wilson wrote: > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > network. > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > I would look seriously at the Lucent Orinoco product line located at > http://www.orinoco.com I have had experience with these products before and > have gotten them setup easily and quickly in FreeBSD and Windows. My guess > is Linux wouldn't be to much of a stretch. > > -- > Erich Zigler > > Adults are just kids who owe money > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E967C37B406 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157ng2-0000mx-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:29:30 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "Brian" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:28:41 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hehe, Thanks. ;-) Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Brian Sent: 06 June 2001 04:21 To: Erich Zigler; FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless LAN You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd rather have cigars than wireless. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Zigler" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200, David Wilson wrote: > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > network. > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > I would look seriously at the Lucent Orinoco product line located at > http://www.orinoco.com I have had experience with these products before and > have gotten them setup easily and quickly in FreeBSD and Windows. My guess > is Linux wouldn't be to much of a stretch. > > -- > Erich Zigler > > Adults are just kids who owe money > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:36: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2352837B406 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:36:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k ([66.28.19.111]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA17433; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:35:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <004c01c0ee95$f7357f30$6f131c42@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: "Brian" , "Erich Zigler" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:35:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've had some luck with Intel's wireless product. Reasonable pricing, good performance. Flexible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" To: "Erich Zigler" ; "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd > rather have cigars than wireless. > > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erich Zigler" > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200, David Wilson wrote: > > > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > > network. > > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > arrangement. > > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I would look seriously at the Lucent Orinoco product line located at > > http://www.orinoco.com I have had experience with these products before > and > > have gotten them setup easily and quickly in FreeBSD and Windows. My guess > > is Linux wouldn't be to much of a stretch. > > > > -- > > Erich Zigler > > > > Adults are just kids who owe money > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:37:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350BD37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157eR5-00059A-00; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:37:27 +0200 Received: from b8319.pppool.de ([213.7.131.25] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 157eR2-0006E4-00; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:37:26 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f56EZw018621; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:35:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200106061435.f56EZw018621@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:35:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring To: jim@siteplus.net Cc: erichz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6 Jun, Jim Weeks wrote: > I found this article very helpful http://www.freebsddiary.org/rsync.php > > You should be able to run the daemon fairly securely as (uid root) and (gid > wheel) as long as you follow the directions in the security section. You > should also set (list=false) in order to protect the names of your > modules. > > I should think that with the anonymity of your rsync user-name (which by > the way does not have to coincide with any system user-name), hidden > password and hidden module names combined with ssh encryption, you should > be fairly secure. I haven't read the article, but if I read the above paragraph: No! Don't rely on security by obscurity! If you run ssh as root: just do ssh port forwarding and only allow connections to the rsync daemon from localhost. Now just connect the rsync client to the ssh tunnel. But: do this only if you trust the users on the system where the rsync daemon runs. Bye, Alexander. -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:42:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AE837B403 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157nuT-0000se-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 02:44:25 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "Alex Huppenthal" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:43:35 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <004c01c0ee95$f7357f30$6f131c42@d7k> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Alex, Brilliant ! Thanks, lettme see what I can find. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Alex Huppenthal Sent: 06 June 2001 04:36 To: Brian; Erich Zigler; FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless LAN We've had some luck with Intel's wireless product. Reasonable pricing, good performance. Flexible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" To: "Erich Zigler" ; "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd > rather have cigars than wireless. > > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erich Zigler" > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 12:05:41PM +0200, David Wilson wrote: > > > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > > network. > > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > arrangement. > > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > I would look seriously at the Lucent Orinoco product line located at > > http://www.orinoco.com I have had experience with these products before > and > > have gotten them setup easily and quickly in FreeBSD and Windows. My guess > > is Linux wouldn't be to much of a stretch. > > > > -- > > Erich Zigler > > > > Adults are just kids who owe money > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:49:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B1BC37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needo@cerebro.superhero.org) Received: (qmail 31385 invoked by alias); 6 Jun 2001 14:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerebro.superhero.org) (216.201.173.186) by ns2.sohos.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 14:49:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 2517 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Jun 2001 14:50:52 -0000 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:50:52 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Message-ID: <20010606095052.B2449@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org>; from bri@sonicboom.org on Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700 X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Jacob: Hi Jacob! X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700, Brian wrote: > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd > rather have cigars than wireless. Yeah, that could make for an interesting PR. -- Erich Zigler Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like talking about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with turpentine sauce. -- void To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 7:55:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9938F37B408 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f56EtZj06912 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <010101c0ee98$57dcc620$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> <20010606095052.B2449@superhero.org> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:52:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ok, I've been thinking of doing something like this, to keep cat-5 out of my living room. At first glance, it appears the Orinico products do 11mbps, whereas the Intel products do 1.6mbps. This is quite a difference. Bri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erich Zigler" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700, Brian wrote: > > > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless you'd > > rather have cigars than wireless. > > Yeah, that could make for an interesting PR. > > -- > Erich Zigler > > Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like talking > about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with turpentine > sauce. -- void > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 8: 8:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [64.81.208.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 028ED37B408 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 30493 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 15:12:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO book) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 15:12:33 -0000 Message-ID: <005801c0ee9a$93978950$01000001@book> From: "alexus" To: "David Wilson" , "InvictaNet Customer Support" , "Freebsd-ISP" References: Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:08:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am using wireless network for my laptops and i wouldn't recommend you to use it for servers.. its' not as much reliable as a cat 5 cables.. i have 11mbps i think it's the top for today's ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wilson" To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; "Freebsd-ISP" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:42 AM Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > Hi Thanks for getting back to me, > > It gets rid of cabling issues etc. > Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? > > > > > Regards > David Wilson > Technical Support Centre > The S.A Internet > 0860 100 869 > www.sai.co.za > > -----Original Message----- > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] > Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 > To: Freebsd-ISP > Cc: David Wilson > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > I may be wrong, but..... > AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you > would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? > > Martyn Routley > ----------------------------------------------------- > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > info@invictanet.co.uk > phone: 08707 440180 > fax: 08707 440181 > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Wireless LAN > > > Hi all, Howzit going ? > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > network. > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless arrangement. > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Regards > David Wilson > Technical Support Centre > The S.A Internet > 0860 100 869 > www.sai.co.za > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 8:14:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B085237B407 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f56FEAj06974; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <011d01c0ee9a$f0480580$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "alexus" , "David Wilson" , "InvictaNet Customer Support" , "Freebsd-ISP" References: <005801c0ee9a$93978950$01000001@book> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:11:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh I agree, I would not use it for servers, just for a laptop or 2, with unknown mac blocking if I could. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "David Wilson" ; "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; "Freebsd-ISP" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > i am using wireless network for my laptops > > and i wouldn't recommend you to use it for servers.. > its' not as much reliable as a cat 5 cables.. > > i have 11mbps i think it's the top for today's > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Wilson" > To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; "Freebsd-ISP" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:42 AM > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > Hi Thanks for getting back to me, > > > > It gets rid of cabling issues etc. > > Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > David Wilson > > Technical Support Centre > > The S.A Internet > > 0860 100 869 > > www.sai.co.za > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] > > Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 > > To: Freebsd-ISP > > Cc: David Wilson > > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > > > I may be wrong, but..... > > AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you > > would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? > > > > Martyn Routley > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > > info@invictanet.co.uk > > phone: 08707 440180 > > fax: 08707 440181 > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: Wireless LAN > > > > > > Hi all, Howzit going ? > > > > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > network. > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > arrangement. > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards > > David Wilson > > Technical Support Centre > > The S.A Internet > > 0860 100 869 > > www.sai.co.za > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 8:30: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.rccn.net (atlas.rccn.net [193.136.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C460437B403 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpsp@fccn.pt) Received: (qmail 81708 invoked by uid 2502); 6 Jun 2001 15:29:51 -0000 Received: from jpsp@fccn.pt by atlas.rccn.net with qmail-scanner-0.94 (. Clean. Processed in 0.280751 secs); 06/06/2001 16:29:50 Received: from dhcp20.fccn.pt (HELO jpsp) (193.136.7.220) by atlas.rccn.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 15:29:50 -0000 Message-ID: <020a01c0ee9d$9cfb1270$dc0788c1@jpsp> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Pagaime?= To: "Brian" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> <20010606095052.B2449@superhero.org> <010101c0ee98$57dcc620$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:30:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > ok, I've been thinking of doing something like this, to keep cat-5 out of my > living room. At first glance, it appears the Orinico products do 11mbps, > whereas the Intel products do 1.6mbps. This is quite a difference. We have a couple of ORINOCO bridges [1], joining 2 ethernet segments, installed with line-of-sight of about 10-20 meters, that have 11Mbps nominal throughput, but actually we never could get more than 4/5 Mbps (sustained TCP throughput measured with ttcp). This could be a serious problem with some applications. Also, some times, the link goes down (I would say once every couple of months), and we have to reboot both bridges. --jp > > Bri > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erich Zigler" > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700, Brian wrote: > > > > > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless > you'd > > > rather have cigars than wireless. > > > > Yeah, that could make for an interesting PR. > > > > -- > > Erich Zigler > > > > Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like talking > > about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with turpentine > > sauce. -- void > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 8:31:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE6E37B405 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@sai.co.za) Received: from dave.sai.co.za ([196.33.40.17] helo=dave) by mail.sai.co.za with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157ofe-000274-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 03:33:10 +0200 From: "David Wilson" To: "Brian" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Subject: RE: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:32:20 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <011d01c0ee9a$f0480580$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Brian, Thanks for the guidance, I'm gonna have to maybe give the servers a skip then. Thanks to Alex & yourself for all the guidance, it's appreciated. Regards David Wilson Technical Support Centre The S.A Internet 0860 100 869 www.sai.co.za -----Original Message----- From: Brian [mailto:bri@sonicboom.org] Sent: 06 June 2001 05:11 To: alexus; David Wilson; InvictaNet Customer Support; Freebsd-ISP Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Oh I agree, I would not use it for servers, just for a laptop or 2, with unknown mac blocking if I could. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "David Wilson" ; "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; "Freebsd-ISP" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > i am using wireless network for my laptops > > and i wouldn't recommend you to use it for servers.. > its' not as much reliable as a cat 5 cables.. > > i have 11mbps i think it's the top for today's > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Wilson" > To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; "Freebsd-ISP" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:42 AM > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > Hi Thanks for getting back to me, > > > > It gets rid of cabling issues etc. > > Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > David Wilson > > Technical Support Centre > > The S.A Internet > > 0860 100 869 > > www.sai.co.za > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] > > Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 > > To: Freebsd-ISP > > Cc: David Wilson > > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > > > I may be wrong, but..... > > AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you > > would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? > > > > Martyn Routley > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > > info@invictanet.co.uk > > phone: 08707 440180 > > fax: 08707 440181 > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: Wireless LAN > > > > > > Hi all, Howzit going ? > > > > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > network. > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > arrangement. > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Regards > > David Wilson > > Technical Support Centre > > The S.A Internet > > 0860 100 869 > > www.sai.co.za > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 8:39:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81AB437B401; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f56Fd1j07074; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <01e901c0ee9e$66feec40$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "David Wilson" , Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 08:35:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe there is also a freebsd wireless list, u could get more info there perhaps. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wilson" To: "Brian" Cc: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for the guidance, I'm gonna have to maybe give the servers a skip > then. > Thanks to Alex & yourself for all the guidance, it's appreciated. > > > > > Regards > David Wilson > Technical Support Centre > The S.A Internet > 0860 100 869 > www.sai.co.za > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian [mailto:bri@sonicboom.org] > Sent: 06 June 2001 05:11 > To: alexus; David Wilson; InvictaNet Customer Support; Freebsd-ISP > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > Oh I agree, I would not use it for servers, just for a laptop or 2, with > unknown mac blocking if I could. > > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "David Wilson" ; "InvictaNet Customer Support" > ; "Freebsd-ISP" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > i am using wireless network for my laptops > > > > and i wouldn't recommend you to use it for servers.. > > its' not as much reliable as a cat 5 cables.. > > > > i have 11mbps i think it's the top for today's > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Wilson" > > To: "InvictaNet Customer Support" ; > "Freebsd-ISP" > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:42 AM > > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > > > > Hi Thanks for getting back to me, > > > > > > It gets rid of cabling issues etc. > > > Is there no way to run 100mb or 1gb over wireless ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > David Wilson > > > Technical Support Centre > > > The S.A Internet > > > 0860 100 869 > > > www.sai.co.za > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: InvictaNet Customer Support [mailto:support@invictanet.co.uk] > > > Sent: 06 June 2001 12:09 > > > To: Freebsd-ISP > > > Cc: David Wilson > > > Subject: RE: Wireless LAN > > > > > > > > > I may be wrong, but..... > > > AFAIK all (cost effective)wireless systems run at 10mbps max. Surely you > > > would be better off using a 100 or Gig cable based system? > > > > > > Martyn Routley > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed > > > http://www.invictanet.co.uk > > > info@invictanet.co.uk > > > phone: 08707 440180 > > > fax: 08707 440181 > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David Wilson > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:06 AM > > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > > Subject: Wireless LAN > > > > > > > > > Hi all, Howzit going ? > > > > > > > > > We are looking at moving our local LAN here and all our servers to a > > > wireless network, currently all our servers are on a shared 10MB Cat5 > > > network. > > > We currently have 18 servers that we need to move to a wireless > > arrangement. > > > What wireless products work the best with FreeBSD or Linux ? What > > > scalability do these wireless products have ? > > > > > > Thanks, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > David Wilson > > > Technical Support Centre > > > The S.A Internet > > > 0860 100 869 > > > www.sai.co.za > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 12:47:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (dickson.phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544BE37B406 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #8) for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org id 157jHS-00078R-00; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:47:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09315 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Subject: Urgent: yppush hangs when pushing to Solaris8 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a customer with an NIS master set up on FreeBSD 4.1 and a slave on a Netra X1 running Solaris8. When I try to yppush from the server, it fails after a long (5 min+) hang. Here's a log (with actual host/ domain names obscured): root@fbsd.1006>yppush -vvv netgroup.byhost yppush: initiating transfer: netgroup.byhost -> fbsd.my.dom (transid = 991850786) yppush: fbsd.my.dom has been called yppush: checking return status: transaction ID: 991850786 yppush: transfer of map netgroup.byhost to server fbsd.my.dom failed yppush: status returned by ypxfr: Master's version not newer yppush: initiating transfer: netgroup.byhost -> x1.my.dom (transid = 991850787) yppush: x1.my.dom has been called yppush: all jobs dispatched yppush: x1.my.dom has not responded yppush: fbsd.my.dom has responded yppush: 1 transfer still pending yppush: timed out yppush: warning: exiting with transfer to x1.my.dom (transid = 991850787) still pending Getting a suitable log from the Solaris side appears to be more difficult. A manual ypxfr yields: root@x1.28> /usr/lib/netsvc/yp/ypxfr -f netgroup.byhost ypxfr: couldnot get fbsd.my.dom address (info) fbsd.my.dom nis.dom netgroup.byhost ypxfrd getdbm failed (reason = -1) -- using ypxfr Note that fbsd.my.dom is explicitly in the /etc/hosts file on the x1; and, of course, it is in both the NIS and DNS maps and the machines are able to communicate with no problems. I do not have ypxfrd running on the FreeBSD box because of the incompatability between *BSD and Sun implementations. If we can't get this push fixed, they will probably abandon the use of FreeBSD... -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 17:12:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5230437B407 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010607001217.NXUH29059.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net>; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:12:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: erichz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: <200106061435.f56EZw018621@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > I haven't read the article, but if I read the above paragraph: No! Don't > rely on security by obscurity! > > If you run ssh as root: just do ssh port forwarding and only allow > connections to the rsync daemon from localhost. Now just connect the > rsync client to the ssh tunnel. > But: do this only if you trust the users on the system where the rsync > daemon runs. Alexander, I may have been misunderstood. I am not proposing running ssh as root. I am referring to running rsyncd as uid-root and gid-wheel in order to copy such files as master.passwd. As I understand it, the rsyncd daemon runs as read only in the default configuration. Also, you may use any nondescript rsync-username and password combination to initiate the transfer of files. In this instance, ssh is only used as the transport agent. Login security is handled by rsyncd, and with the aid of ssh is encrypted. I do agree, obscurity is of very little use if you allow shell access to untrusted users. On the other hand, setting (list=false) in rsynd.conf will effectively prevent anyone from simply requesting a list of modules. As always, this is my opinion. Any one choosing to build on or adapt this information to their own use should do so with their own specific security issues in mind. -- Jim Weeks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 17:35:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399037B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010607003507.OTPU29059.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net>; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:35:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: erichz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Another thought on this subject. I suggest starting rsyncd from inetd. If I was super paranoid, I would run a cron induced shell script on the server machine that would only enable rsyncd and -HUP inetd for the short period of time the client machine needs to make the connection. It would also be a simple matter to automate setting these connection times at random since you are already sync-ing the client machine with the server. The new random connection time information could be sent along with the transfer. -- Jim Weeks On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > I haven't read the article, but if I read the above paragraph: No! Don't > > rely on security by obscurity! > > > > If you run ssh as root: just do ssh port forwarding and only allow > > connections to the rsync daemon from localhost. Now just connect the > > rsync client to the ssh tunnel. > > But: do this only if you trust the users on the system where the rsync > > daemon runs. > > Alexander, > > I may have been misunderstood. I am not proposing running ssh as root. I > am referring to running rsyncd as uid-root and gid-wheel in order to copy > such files as master.passwd. As I understand it, the rsyncd daemon runs > as read only in the default configuration. Also, you may use any > nondescript rsync-username and password combination to initiate the > transfer of files. In this instance, ssh is only used as the transport > agent. Login security is handled by rsyncd, and with the aid of ssh is > encrypted. > > I do agree, obscurity is of very little use if you allow shell access to > untrusted users. On the other hand, setting (list=false) in rsynd.conf > will effectively prevent anyone from simply requesting a list of modules. > > As always, this is my opinion. Any one choosing to build on or adapt > this information to their own use should do so with their own specific > security issues in mind. > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 20:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A026137B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA20719; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:44:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <003801c0ef04$27b73680$6f00a8c0@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: "Brian" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> <20010606095052.B2449@superhero.org> <010101c0ee98$57dcc620$3324200a@sonicboom.org> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:44:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Intel's rate at 4 Mbits, Lucents rate about the same. Check zdnet for the summary. FH gear does 1 Mbit, most of the DSS vendors are squarely in the 4 Mbit range. According to zdnet, the Cisco Aironet stuff did 6 Mbits. Your mileage varies according to the number of clients.. You can get 5.x Ghz radios in the 100 mbit throughput range, but I've only seen point to point 5.x Ghz radios. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > ok, I've been thinking of doing something like this, to keep cat-5 out of my > living room. At first glance, it appears the Orinico products do 11mbps, > whereas the Intel products do 1.6mbps. This is quite a difference. > > Bri > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erich Zigler" > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700, Brian wrote: > > > > > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, unless > you'd > > > rather have cigars than wireless. > > > > Yeah, that could make for an interesting PR. > > > > -- > > Erich Zigler > > > > Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like talking > > about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with turpentine > > sauce. -- void > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 6 20:48:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDEE37B401 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA20745; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:47:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <004601c0ef04$991f0af0$6f00a8c0@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Pagaime?= , "Brian" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" References: <20010606092030.B2219@superhero.org> <00cb01c0ee93$f48da2a0$3324200a@sonicboom.org> <20010606095052.B2449@superhero.org> <010101c0ee98$57dcc620$3324200a@sonicboom.org> <020a01c0ee9d$9cfb1270$dc0788c1@jpsp> Subject: Re: Wireless LAN Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 21:47:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I used FH gear at my home office. I switched to 100 BT switched ethernet. It's just more practical if you are doing development, sharing files, transferring large images, etc. I've tried DSS / 11 Mbit gear and found it's very nice for those applications, but that was *after* I'd already installed 100 BT around the house. I have a wireless DSS uplink at 500 Kbits, and that works fine. RF is not a perfect science, reboots, temporary interference, etc. all contribute to temporary interruptions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "João Pagaime" To: "Brian" ; "FreeBSD Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian" > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > ok, I've been thinking of doing something like this, to keep cat-5 out > of my > > living room. At first glance, it appears the Orinico products do > 11mbps, > > whereas the Intel products do 1.6mbps. This is quite a difference. > > We have a couple of ORINOCO bridges [1], joining 2 ethernet segments, > installed with line-of-sight of about 10-20 meters, that have 11Mbps > nominal throughput, but actually we never could get more than 4/5 Mbps > (sustained TCP throughput measured with ttcp). This could be a serious > problem with some applications. > > Also, some times, the link goes down (I would say once every couple > of months), and we have to reboot both bridges. > > --jp > > > > > Bri > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Erich Zigler" > > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:50 AM > > Subject: Re: Wireless LAN > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:21:14AM -0700, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > You really want www.orinocowireless.com, not www.orinoco.com, > unless > > you'd > > > > rather have cigars than wireless. > > > > > > Yeah, that could make for an interesting PR. > > > > > > -- > > > Erich Zigler > > > > > > Debating unix flavors in the context of anything Microsoft is like > talking > > > about which ice cream flavor tastes least like sawdust with > turpentine > > > sauce. -- void > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 6:15:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF3F37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 06:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 157zcq-000720-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:15:00 +0200 Received: from b84c0.pppool.de ([213.7.132.192] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 157zcm-0000Ej-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 15:14:58 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f579QN217410; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:26:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200106070926.f579QN217410@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:26:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring To: jim@siteplus.net Cc: richz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 6 Jun, Jim Weeks wrote: >> I haven't read the article, but if I read the above paragraph: No! Don't >> rely on security by obscurity! >> >> If you run ssh as root: just do ssh port forwarding and only allow >> connections to the rsync daemon from localhost. Now just connect the >> rsync client to the ssh tunnel. >> But: do this only if you trust the users on the system where the rsync >> daemon runs. > > Alexander, > > I may have been misunderstood. I am not proposing running ssh as root. I > am referring to running rsyncd as uid-root and gid-wheel in order to copy > such files as master.passwd. As I understand it, the rsyncd daemon runs > as read only in the default configuration. Also, you may use any > nondescript rsync-username and password combination to initiate the > transfer of files. In this instance, ssh is only used as the transport > agent. Login security is handled by rsyncd, and with the aid of ssh is > encrypted. How does rsync use ssh if it connects to an rsyncd? rsyncd runs on a specific port and waits for connections to this port (which ssh doesn't do). In the rsyncd case the password will be encrypted (128 bit MD4 based challenge response system), the data will not be encrypted (ssh isn't used). Using rsync over ssh opens a connection via ssh to the other host, starts rsync and pipes the data through the encrypted ssh connection from one instance of rsync to the other instance of rsync (no rsyncd involved here). You didn't want to share your master.passwd with the world, right? So you have to either refuse to use rsyncd, or you have to do ssh port forwarding, tunnel the rsync connection through it ("rsync ... rsync:myself@localhost:/...") and only allow connections to rsyncd from localhost. Bye, Alexander. -- Where do you think you're going today? http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 9: 0:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.siteplus.com (aurora.siteplus.com [209.140.48.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFD937B401 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sitenet@aurora.siteplus.com) Received: from localhost (sitenet@localhost) by aurora.siteplus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA71880; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:00:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sitenet@aurora.siteplus.com) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: User SITENET Jim Weeks To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: richz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: <200106070926.f579QN217410@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > rsyncd runs on a specific port and waits for connections to this port > (which ssh doesn't do). In the rsyncd case the password will be > encrypted (128 bit MD4 based challenge response system), the data will > not be encrypted (ssh isn't used). > Are you saying by using the -e ssh option with the following construct that ssh is not used and data is not encrypted? rsync [OPTION]... SRC [SRC]... [USER@]HOST::DEST --Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 10:57:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tsunami.acidpit.org (tsunami.solveinteractive.com [206.190.163.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D2F37B40B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@acidpit.org) Received: by tsunami.acidpit.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9CB691F20; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:56:46 -0400 From: Robert Hough To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New Provider Suggestions Message-ID: <20010607135646.B29258@acidpit.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the off-topic post, just seeking advice/experiences from other ISP's out there. We are looking to expand our capacity a bit, and would like to go with a new provider. Currently, we have: c&w, digex, sprint, and uunet. Any suggestions? Time Warner and Qwest are really the only two providers that are not going to be considered. Please reply privately, as I'm sure people are quite tired of seeing this here. Thanks -- Robert Hough (rch@acidpit.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 10:59:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from brazil.webair.com (brazil.webair.com [209.10.49.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B1337B403 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brianh@webair.com) Received: from localhost (brianh@localhost) by brazil.webair.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f56H7sD33885 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brianh@webair.com) Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:07:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Hourigan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-STABLE memory related boot problem (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a dual xenon (intel srka4) with 2gB of memory, and 4gB swap. I need to upgrade it to 4gB and when it tries booting I get the following error: swap_zone_swap_init(): swap_zone == NULL From the vague information I've gathered searching archives so far it leads me to suspect its exhausted its KVM. The only modifications to the kernel (aside device drivers are) NMBCLUSTERS=8192, PMAP_SHPGPERPROC=250 I've tried booting the GENERIC kernel, and with NO_SWAPPING options. No change in the problem. Please let me know what steps may be taken to correct this problem. ---------------------------------------- Brian Hourigan Lead Technical Support Specialist/ Programming Development Team Webair Internet Development, Inc. Phone: 516.256.0821 Phone: 212.941.6940 Fax: 516.568.0867 http://www.webair.com ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 11:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA16837B405 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25004 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <001d01c0ef80$b67e3270$6f00a8c0@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: Subject: Adding users Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:36:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're back to checking out how to allow users to alter their passwords when the signup on line. Any comments on FreeBSD utilities that will allow this from say, PHP or Perl. ? This should be a FAQ but I haven't seen it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 12:25:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wolf.ncia.net (wolf.ncia.net [207.140.8.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2DA37B403 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjtaylor@ncia.net) Received: from localhost (rjtaylor@localhost) by wolf.ncia.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f57JPac00669; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:25:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:25:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ryan Taylor To: Alex Huppenthal Cc: Subject: Re: Adding users In-Reply-To: <001d01c0ef80$b67e3270$6f00a8c0@d7k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Alex Huppenthal wrote: > We're back to checking out how to allow users to alter their passwords when > the signup on line. > > Any comments on FreeBSD utilities that will allow this from say, PHP or > Perl. ? This should be a FAQ but I > haven't seen it. > Hi Alex, You could install mail/poppassd from the ports collection and then snag some bits of code from IMP's "change password" utility. It's in PHP and shouldn't be too difficult to adjust for your needs. IMP can be found at http://horde.org/imp/ RJ --------------------- Ryan J. Taylor Systems/Network Administrator NCIA rj@ncia.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 12:35:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.prokk.net (smtp.prokk.net [194.42.198.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38CA37B403 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@prokk.net) Received: from user2.prokk.net (user2.prokk.net [194.42.198.102]) by smtp.prokk.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f57JZbV30614 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:35:40 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:36:24 +0300 From: green X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49e) Reply-To: green Organization: slockos-izoklyopster X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <988181469.20010607223624@prokk.net> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: limit users in time Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi ! can i limit specific user to work on my machine 5 hours only ? thanx ---------------- 22:35 | Thursday, June 07, 2001 green@prokk.net Ù To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 12:45:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBFC37B401 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA25400; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:45:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <001f01c0ef8a$3919a080$6f00a8c0@d7k> From: "Alex Huppenthal" To: "Ryan Taylor" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Adding users Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:44:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rian, Thanks much. -Alex PS: By they way, if someone is working on PHP, you'll be happy to know you can now build a FreeBSD standalone version of PHP from ports/www/mod_php4 by simply setting the env variable STANDALONE .. and running make. Make install will complain if you already installed the mod version, but just go to the lower level directory and do the make install from there. Also, keep in mind the config file for the standalone version is referenced to '/usr/local/etc/php.standalone' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Taylor" To: "Alex Huppenthal" Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Adding users > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Alex Huppenthal wrote: > > > We're back to checking out how to allow users to alter their passwords when > > the signup on line. > > > > Any comments on FreeBSD utilities that will allow this from say, PHP or > > Perl. ? This should be a FAQ but I > > haven't seen it. > > > > Hi Alex, > > You could install mail/poppassd from the ports collection and then snag > some bits of code from IMP's "change password" utility. It's in PHP and > shouldn't be too difficult to adjust for your needs. IMP can be found at > http://horde.org/imp/ > > RJ > > --------------------- > Ryan J. Taylor > Systems/Network Administrator > NCIA > rj@ncia.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 12:45:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unity.copyleft.no (unity.copyleft.no [212.71.72.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B27C37B405 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin@unity.copyleft.no) Received: from martin by unity.copyleft.no with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1585fZ-0004oN-00; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:42:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 21:42:13 +0200 From: Martin Eggen To: green Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: limit users in time Message-ID: <20010607214213.A17859@unity.copyleft.no> References: <988181469.20010607223624@prokk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <988181469.20010607223624@prokk.net>; from green@prokk.net on Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 10:36:24PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [green] > hi ! > > can i limit specific user to work on my machine 5 hours only ? > Check out login classes (man 5 login.conf), especially note the daytime value, that limits login time pr. day. -- Martin Eggen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 7 22:55: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from squid.africaonline.co.ke (216-252-240-6.africaonline.co.ke [216.252.240.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206FE37B405 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 22:55:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@uunet.co.ke) Received: from smtp.africaonline.co.ke (mail.africaonline.co.ke [216.252.240.5]) by squid.africaonline.co.ke (Postfix) with SMTP id E1CE348CBA for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:50:37 +0300 (EAT) Received: (qmail 16376 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2001 05:55:32 -0000 Received: from 216-252-243-150.africaonline.co.ke (HELO TIM.uunet.co.ke) (216.252.243.150) by smtp.africaonline.co.ke with SMTP; 8 Jun 2001 05:55:32 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010608090001.00b09be0@localhost> X-Sender: tim/mail.uunet.com.na@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 09:00:50 +0300 To: "Vienkarsi Jautajums" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Tim Priebe Subject: Re: virtual ip addreses Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, jail might be what you are looking for. Tim. At 09:08 PM 6/5/2001 +0300, Vienkarsi Jautajums wrote: >Hi! > >I configured multiple ip addreses on FreeBSD box through ifconfig .. alias >option, im looking if there is posibility to make one of thouse virtual ip >addresses "default" for specific user .. eg. I want to make system where >user connects to shell runns his own stuff and by default >outgoing/incoming connections for his runned processes are going from one >of those virtual ips. Can it be done wih some enviroment variable or >somethin .. ? > >wbr >Uldis >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 2:17:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cleanwhisker.420.am (cleanwhisker.420.am [205.179.65.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AFB137B403 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:17:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ivan@420.am) Received: (qmail 29797 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Jun 2001 09:17:11 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 02:17:11 -0700 From: ivan To: "Ben O." , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freeside Message-ID: <20010608021709.A29590@cleanwhisker.420.am> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001b01c0ec52$d8782600$0d01a8c0@casystems.net>; from ben@cahostnet.com on Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0400, Ben O. wrote: > Does this work with Revcom? Not out-of-the-box. > What merchant or gateway will this work with? CyberCash, Authorize.Net and Signio (now Verisign Payment Services?), real-time. Pretty much anything batch. It also isn't very difficult to add a new real-time processor. Got documentation and a test account? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ivan" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 11:19 AM > Subject: Re: Freeside > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:59:11PM -0400, Bsdguru@aol.com wrote: > > > Is anyone using this package with FreeBSD? > > > > Every now-and-again I fire up vmware and make sure things work okay. > > Since all the of the things Freeside's based on work fine on fbsd (Perl, > > PostgreSQL, Apache, etc.), there's really no chance it'll suddenly stop > > working or anything... :) > > > > > Opinions? > > > > I'm obviously biased. > > > > > Can you bill based on bandwidth usage with it? > > > > Yep, you can bill based on any sort of metered-data, but you need to have > > the data available. > > > > -- > > meow > > _ivan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > -- meow _ivan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 4:57:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF85C37B42A for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 04:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 158KtY-0006nC-00; Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:57:40 +0200 Received: from b85ef.pppool.de ([213.7.133.239] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 158KtX-0000Dd-00; Fri, 08 Jun 2001 13:57:39 +0200 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f57HB5f01627; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:11:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200106071711.f57HB5f01627@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:11:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring To: sitenet@aurora.siteplus.com Cc: richz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 7 Jun, User SITENET Jim Weeks wrote: >> rsyncd runs on a specific port and waits for connections to this port >> (which ssh doesn't do). In the rsyncd case the password will be >> encrypted (128 bit MD4 based challenge response system), the data will >> not be encrypted (ssh isn't used). >> > > Are you saying by using the -e ssh option with the following construct > that ssh is not used and data is not encrypted? > > rsync [OPTION]... SRC [SRC]... [USER@]HOST::DEST Yes, see the "CONNECTING TO AN RSYNC SERVER" section in the rsync man-page. If it didn't convinces you: -e is equivalent to RSYNC_RSH, so rsync only knows about rsh features, ssh is only a substitution for rsh, so rsync doesn't know about ssh port forwarding (which would be needed in this case). If this still didn't convinces you: sniff some traffic to your rsync daemon. Bye, Alexander. -- Actually, Microsoft is sort of a mixture between the Borg and the Ferengi. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 9:45:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.sysadmin-inc.com (ns2.sysadmin-inc.com [209.16.228.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96B3D37B405 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 09:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@sysadmin-inc.com) Received: (qmail 57650 invoked by alias); 8 Jun 2001 16:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO w2kstest) (10.10.1.70) by ns2.sysadmin-inc.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2001 16:45:17 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: Subject: security and FrontPage 2000 extensions on apache. Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:44:37 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Digging around in the archives, I've found a lot of comments about the insecure nature of fp extensions, but sometimes not a lot of meat to back up the arguement. I'm running an old 2.2.8 server with fp98 extensions on it. Have the fp2000 extensions tightened up the security any more? Do they install more easily? General comments? TIA Peter Brezny SysAdmin Services Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 10: 6:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DDD37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:06:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@siteplus.net) Received: from veager.siteplus.net ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010608170629.LANF29059.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.siteplus.net>; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:06:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:06:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks To: Alexander Leidinger Cc: sitenet@aurora.siteplus.com, richz@superhero.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rsync for mirroring In-Reply-To: <200106071711.f57HB5f01627@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > Are you saying by using the -e ssh option with the following construct > > that ssh is not used and data is not encrypted? > > > > rsync [OPTION]... SRC [SRC]... [USER@]HOST::DEST > > Yes, see the "CONNECTING TO AN RSYNC SERVER" section in the rsync > man-page. Alexander, I appreciate this insight. I *have* read (man rsync) and (man rsyncd.conf), and several articles. However, I certainly missed this fact. Thanks, --jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 10:58:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gifw.genroco.com (genroco.com [205.254.195.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F3E37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:58:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from gi2.genroco.com (IDENT:root@gi2.genroco.com [192.133.120.3]) by gifw.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12200; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:58:06 -0500 Received: from scot.genroco.com (scot.genroco.com [192.133.120.125]) by gi2.genroco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20272; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:58:04 -0500 Message-ID: <02a101c0f044$9173c660$7d7885c0@genroco.com> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Peter Brezny" , References: Subject: Re: security and FrontPage 2000 extensions on apache. Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:58:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Peter Brezny" > Digging around in the archives, I've found a lot of comments about the > insecure nature of fp extensions, but sometimes not a lot of meat to back up > the arguement. > > I'm running an old 2.2.8 server with fp98 extensions on it. Have the fp2000 > extensions tightened up the security any more? Do they install more easily? > General comments? > The security of the FrontPage extensions mostly rely on how you configure the Apache server. You want to restrict who and from where a user can administer or author a FP enabled web site. Configuration of theses security settings is done thru the FP client, which informs the FP Exts (fpadmin.exe) to create the necessary .htaccess files to restrict users permissions on a web site. Installation of the FP2K Exts (fp40) hasn't changed. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 11:58:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pendragon.tacni.net (mail.tacni.net [216.178.136.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A33C137B406 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 11:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from needo@cerebro.superhero.org) Received: (qmail 39207 invoked by alias); 8 Jun 2001 18:58:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cerebro.superhero.org) (216.201.173.186) by ns2.sohos.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2001 18:58:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 39670 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Jun 2001 18:59:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 13:59:21 -0500 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Weird routing stuff Message-ID: <20010608135921.A39619@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Jacob: Hi Jacob! X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having a very weird routing problem... Machine A --- Cisco 2916 Switch --- Machine B Between Machine A and Machine B I am getting 8k/s. Now if I go to a machine outside of the data center, and across the Internet to the one located at my house. I am getting 80k/s from both machines. The switch configuration seems normal and fine, the router(s) configurations seem normal and fine. I am a little confused as to what it may be. Both nic cards in the machines are set to 100baseTX . -- Erich Zigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 14:31: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CDC37B40C for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from localhost (bri@localhost) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f58LUwG13330; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian X-X-Sender: To: Erich Zigler Cc: Subject: Re: Weird routing stuff In-Reply-To: <20010608135921.A39619@superhero.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the switch in agreement with 100/fd, I have seen some cases where if u force 100/full, the switch will not necessarily agree. Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Erich Zigler wrote: > I am having a very weird routing problem... > > > Machine A --- Cisco 2916 Switch --- Machine B > > Between Machine A and Machine B I am getting 8k/s. > > Now if I go to a machine outside of the data center, and across the Internet > to the one located at my house. I am getting 80k/s from both machines. > > The switch configuration seems normal and fine, the router(s) configurations > seem normal and fine. I am a little confused as to what it may be. > > Both nic cards in the machines are set to 100baseTX . > > -- > Erich Zigler > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 15:28:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBF5237B403 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@futuredesigns.net) Received: (qmail 57712 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2001 22:28:51 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO sun.futuredesigns.net) (216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 8 Jun 2001 22:28:51 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608182744.01e99618@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: sturdee/mail.futuredesigns.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 18:30:04 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Mike Subject: jail and localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On setting up postfix in a jail environment, I get the error: postfix: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 127.0.0.1 when trying to start it. 'ifconfig -a' shows lo0 w/o 127.0.0.1 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 Any suggestions or ideas? -Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 18:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0BF137B403 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@futuredesigns.net) Received: (qmail 68119 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 01:13:15 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO sun.futuredesigns.net) (216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 01:13:15 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: sturdee/mail.futuredesigns.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:14:29 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Mike Subject: jail and localhost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Along with my last message about posfix wanting localhost, and the jail environment not seeming to have one, I am also getting errors upon testing a perl build: lib/io_sock..........accept failed: Operation timed out at lib/io_sock.t line 57. Operation timed out (maybe your system does not have a localhost at all, 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1) at lib/io_sock.t line 73. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 18:55:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (dickson.phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5DA37B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:55:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 158Xy6-0004tj-00; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:55:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10634; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 18:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Subject: Re: jail and localhost To: Mike Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8-Jun-01 at 18:13, Mike (mike@futuredesigns.net) wrote: > Along with my last message about posfix wanting localhost, and the jail > environment not seeming to have one, I am also getting errors upon testing > a perl build: > > lib/io_sock..........accept failed: Operation timed out at lib/io_sock.t > line 57. > Operation timed out (maybe your system does not have a localhost at all, > 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1) at lib/io_sock.t line 73. Somewhere in the jail docs it explains that references to loopback port are silently translated into the IP address associated with that jail. (The jail implementation would make it -very- difficult to have separate loopback spaces for each jail.) -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 19: 8:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.morning.ru (ns.morning.ru [195.161.98.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06D937B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from poige@morning.ru) Received: from NIC1 ([195.161.98.236]) by ns.morning.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA73587; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:08:02 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from poige@morning.ru) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:08:39 +0700 From: Igor Podlesny X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Morning Network X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10688716317.20010609100839@morning.ru> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Mike Subject: Re: jail and localhost In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org setting up Squid's jail, I came up with patches to it and other workarounds... I can suggest to you using your real-ip-address instead of 127.0.0.1 which is to be associated with `localhost' name in the /etc/hosts. it could help, imho > Along with my last message about posfix wanting localhost, and the jail > environment not seeming to have one, I am also getting errors upon testing > a perl build: > lib/io_sock..........accept failed: Operation timed out at lib/io_sock.t > line 57. > Operation timed out (maybe your system does not have a localhost at all, > 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1) at lib/io_sock.t line 73. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Igor mailto:poige@morning.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 23:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AAE9637B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:21:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@futuredesigns.net) Received: (qmail 89249 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 06:21:15 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO sun.futuredesigns.net) (216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 06:21:15 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609021749.01e0ce80@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: sturdee/mail.futuredesigns.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:22:31 -0400 To: Igor Podlesny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Subject: Re: jail and localhost In-Reply-To: <10688716317.20010609100839@morning.ru> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, the thing is, localhost wasn't specified anywhere, but it was trying to look up 127.0.0.1, not the hostname 'localhost' which is kind of odd.. I took out the option to bind postfix to just one IP (that doesn't really matter in jail now, does it?) and it works.. but I've still had a couple other progs do the same thing. At 10:08 AM 6/9/2001 +0700, Igor Podlesny wrote: >setting up Squid's jail, I came up with patches to it and other >workarounds... > >I can suggest to you using your real-ip-address instead of 127.0.0.1 >which is to be associated with `localhost' name in the /etc/hosts. it >could help, imho > > > Along with my last message about posfix wanting localhost, and the jail > > environment not seeming to have one, I am also getting errors upon testing > > a perl build: > > > lib/io_sock..........accept failed: Operation timed out at lib/io_sock.t > > line 57. > > Operation timed out (maybe your system does not have a localhost at all, > > 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1) at lib/io_sock.t line 73. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >-- > Igor mailto:poige@morning.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 8 23:22: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CABC737B401 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 23:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@futuredesigns.net) Received: (qmail 89294 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 06:22:06 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO sun.futuredesigns.net) (216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 06:22:06 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609022244.01df73b0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: sturdee/mail.futuredesigns.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 02:23:22 -0400 To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG From: Mike Subject: Re: jail and localhost Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010608211332.01e0cd78@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:55 PM 6/8/2001 -0700, patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG wrote: >On 8-Jun-01 at 18:13, Mike (mike@futuredesigns.net) wrote: > > Along with my last message about posfix wanting localhost, and the jail > > environment not seeming to have one, I am also getting errors upon testing > > a perl build: > > > > lib/io_sock..........accept failed: Operation timed out at lib/io_sock.t > > line 57. > > Operation timed out (maybe your system does not have a localhost at all, > > 'localhost' or 127.0.0.1) at lib/io_sock.t line 73. > >Somewhere in the jail docs it explains that references to loopback port >are silently translated into the IP address associated with that jail. >(The jail implementation would make it -very- difficult to have separate >loopback spaces for each jail.) Where might I find more jail docs besides the man pages? Thanks -Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 0: 4:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (dickson.phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9495637B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:04:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 158cn2-0005GG-00; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:04:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA10668; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Subject: Re: jail and localhost To: Mike Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609022244.01df73b0@127.0.0.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8-Jun-01 at 23:22, Mike (mike@futuredesigns.net) wrote: > Where might I find more jail docs besides the man pages? Hmm. There are the man pages you alluded to: jail(8) and jail(2). There's a paper in /usr/share/doc/papers I'm not sure if there is anything else that you can expect to find on your own system. You should search for 'jail' on http://www.freebsd.org/ and on some of the other BSD and general un*x admin sites. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 16:27: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.futuredesigns.net (saturn.futuredesigns.net [216.91.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75C5037B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 16:26:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@futuredesigns.net) Received: (qmail 37006 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 23:26:57 -0000 Received: from delta.futuredesigns.net (HELO sun.futuredesigns.net) (216.91.66.252) by 216.91.66.2 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 23:26:57 -0000 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010609192705.01d46038@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: sturdee/mail.futuredesigns.net@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:27:27 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Mike Subject: RE: Motorola spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What are the chances of getting RBL filtering on this mailing list? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 17: 3:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AF8437B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 82550 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 08:38:08 -0000 Received: from pythia.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.5) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 08:38:08 -0000 Message-ID: <3B1DEBED.B7C40AEA@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:38:05 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Knepper , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Log file rotation with Apache. References: <3B13D6DC.5040201@digitaldaemon.com> <3B1DEB36.A49DB40A@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------885661A622A17D5AAA1F8CE4" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------885661A622A17D5AAA1F8CE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ooops, forgot attachment:( Sorry! Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Hello All, > > See attachment! > This perl script is not perfect, but will do all necessary. > -- Krassimir Slavchev Bulinfo Ltd. krassi@bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3652 http://www.bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3764 --------------885661A622A17D5AAA1F8CE4 Content-Type: application/x-perl; name="rotate2.pl" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="rotate2.pl" #!/usr/bin/perl ###_________________________________________(c) DieselOS ## Structure of rotate.conf file (for example) ## logfile count size_in_Kbytes #/var/log/access.log 3 1024 # use strict; # Change paths if differ! my $conf_file = "/etc/rotate.conf"; my $MV = "/bin/mv"; my $GZIP = "/usr/bin/gzip"; my ($logfile, $count, $size, $i, $n); open(FILE, "<$conf_file") || die "Can not open file: $conf_file!\n"; while() { next if /^#/; # Commented line ! s/^\s+//; s/\s+$//; next unless $_; ($logfile, $count, $size) = split(/\s+/, $_); if (-s $logfile > $size * 1024) # rotate if size exceed (in Kbytes!) { for ($i = $count-1; $i > 0; $i--) { $n = $i-1; if (-e "$logfile.$n.gz") { `$MV $logfile.$n.gz $logfile.$i.gz`; } } `$GZIP -c $logfile > $logfile.0.gz;>$logfile`; } } close FILE; --------------885661A622A17D5AAA1F8CE4-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 17:19:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D4F837B405 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 81043 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 08:35:05 -0000 Received: from pythia.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.5) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 08:35:05 -0000 Message-ID: <3B1DEB36.A49DB40A@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:35:02 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Knepper Cc: FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Log file rotation with Apache. References: <3B13D6DC.5040201@digitaldaemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, See attachment! This perl script is not perfect, but will do all necessary. Jan Knepper wrote: > Hi! > > Does any of you know about a "clean" way to do log file for Apache > without disrupting webalizer? > > I have tried to just run newsyslog on them as I would like this best, > but Apache seems to stop logging after the first trim. I know I can > reset Apache with a "kill -1", but don't think that's exactly the way I > would like to resolve that problem. > > Thanks! > Jan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Krassimir Slavchev Bulinfo Ltd. krassi@bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3652 http://www.bulinfo.net (+359-2)963-3764 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 17:27:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtpg.casema.net (smtpg.casema.net [195.96.96.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0900437B403 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Received: (qmail 29176 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2001 00:27:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO slash.b118.binity.net) (212.64.76.130) by smtpg.casema.net with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 00:27:49 -0000 Received: from 172.18.3.10 (silver.b118.binity.net [172.18.3.10]) by slash.b118.binity.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAF6142; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:27:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 02:27:57 +0200 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52f) Educational Organization: Binity X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9648142615.20010610022757@binity.com> To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: Jan Knepper , FreeBSD-ISP Subject: Re[2]: Log file rotation with Apache. In-Reply-To: <3B1DEB36.A49DB40A@bulinfo.net> References: <3B13D6DC.5040201@digitaldaemon.com> <3B1DEB36.A49DB40A@bulinfo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > See attachment! Which attachment? :) >> Apache seems to stop logging after the first trim. That's correct; you need to send it a USR1 signal instead. This tells Apache to re-open its log files. You want to do this after every log rotation. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/stopping.html for more details. -- Walter Hop | +31 6 24290808 | Finger for public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 19:37:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (csocs.com [63.175.234.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012C137B405 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com (wolfman@chynapanas04poolA196.chyn.uswest.net [63.228.232.196]) by shell.csocs.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5A2UTY24267 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:30:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 20:34:52 -0600 From: "Jonathan C. Frazier" Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: dual boards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone seen/heard any information on dual boards for AMD >1GHz or P4's? As far as I've heard, there is no such thing yet, but they were working on it. Any recent information on release dates any of you know about? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 20:21: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 743B237B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 25685 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Jun 2001 03:21:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:21:04 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: "Jonathan C. Frazier" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dual boards Message-ID: <20010609232104.B24882@databits.net> References: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com>; from admin@csocs.com on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 08:34:52PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dual athlon boards were just released. My friend got his earlier this week, very very cool. Search the web. This is OT. Please direct replies to -chat... -pete ++ 09/06/01 20:34 -0600 - Jonathan C. Frazier: | Has anyone seen/heard any information on dual boards | for AMD >1GHz or P4's? As far as I've heard, there | is no such thing yet, but they were working on it. Any | recent information on release dates any of you know about? | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 21:16:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BAF37B403 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:16:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA28653; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:16:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-151.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.151) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma028322; Sat Jun 9 23:16:06 2001 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20010609230341.01bc2400@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:14:14 -0500 To: "Jonathan C. Frazier" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: dual boards In-Reply-To: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:34 PM 6/9/01 -0600, Jonathan C. Frazier wrote: >Has anyone seen/heard any information on dual boards >for AMD >1GHz or P4's? As far as I've heard, there >is no such thing yet, but they were working on it. Any >recent information on release dates any of you know about? Tyan has one. Expect announcements in the coming month or 2 from other manufacturers. They require the MP version processor (for stability), which is also an update to the core and a shrink to the .13 micron die. Of course it might be possible to use non-MP validated processors, but results might vary. The first MP processors will be clocked down a bit to 1.2 GHz. Would be rather expensive at this point, seeing as only one board is out. And there is the question of any issue FBSD might have running on the board. No clue is the "Smart SMP" AMD talks about might require different coding. Hope not, might be a while before it's useful. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 22:49:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ruminary.org (153-246-44-207.ip.sirius.com [207.44.246.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4546737B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:49:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clark@ruminary.org) Received: by ruminary.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8933F15293; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 22:49:36 -0700 From: clark shishido To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: "Jonathan C. Frazier" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dual boards Message-ID: <20010609224936.A12633@ruminary.org> References: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com> <4.3.2.20010609230341.01bc2400@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20010609230341.01bc2400@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:14:14PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 08:34 PM 6/9/01 -0600, Jonathan C. Frazier wrote: > Has anyone seen/heard any information on dual boards check the usual sites http://www.tomshardware.com, http://anandtech.com, etc for reviews. On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:14:14PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Would be rather expensive at this point, seeing as only one board is out. I followed an ad banner from one of the above sites for http://www.elitepc.com and you can get one for ~$2,000. I don't consider that expensive. Not a plug, I'll probably end up buiding one myself. > And there is the question of any issue FBSD might have running on the > board. No clue is the "Smart SMP" AMD talks about might require different > coding. Hope not, might be a while before it's useful. > if you read the other FreeBSD mailing lists this has already come up twice. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=244188+0+current/freebsd-current ( link will change as it gets archived, thread begins june 7 "dual athlons) http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=651522+0+archive/2001/freebsd-hackers/20010422.freebsd-hackers Short answer, it works with 4.2+ --clark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 9 23:45:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20FBE37B401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from Brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f5A6jbj18650; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:45:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <007701c0f178$6f955100$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "Jonathan C. Frazier" , References: <3B22DCCC.4353017D@csocs.com> Subject: Re: dual boards Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:41:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org athlon doesn't support smp, well until the latest version is official.. Bri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan C. Frazier" To: Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: dual boards > Has anyone seen/heard any information on dual boards > for AMD >1GHz or P4's? As far as I've heard, there > is no such thing yet, but they were working on it. Any > recent information on release dates any of you know about? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message