From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 4:41:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dada.it (mail2.dada.it [195.110.96.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07E5F37B403 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 04:41:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ale@unixmania.net) Received: (qmail 30256 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2001 11:43:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO libero.sunshine.ale) (195.110.114.252) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 5 Aug 2001 11:43:03 -0000 Received: by libero.sunshine.ale (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0A8725F5E; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:41:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:41:10 +0200 From: Alessandro de Manzano To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: NFS and WAN ? Message-ID: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> Reply-To: Alessandro de Manzano Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I'm looking for a way to establish a _secure_ NFS connection in a WAN / Internet environment. I know NFS is not secure from this point of view, so I would ask if someone have a solution. Encapsulating over SSH is not easy with all the different ports needed by NFS, so what I could do ? Maybe running it over something like IPSec, VPNs, etc. ? Better alternatives ? Thanks a lot! -- bye! Alessandro de Manzano Milano, Italy ale@unixmania.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 5:40:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spider.suxx.eu.org (unknown [194.249.141.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C276437B403; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 05:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddave@suxx.eu.org) Received: by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B25F17771; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7520232B9E; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:41:43 +0200 (CEST) From: David Delibasic To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: , Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? In-Reply-To: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> Message-ID: <20010805144104.W34298-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running NFS over IPsec tunnel and it works fine.. D. On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > Hello! > > I'm looking for a way to establish a _secure_ NFS connection in a WAN / > Internet environment. > > I know NFS is not secure from this point of view, so I would ask if > someone have a solution. > > Encapsulating over SSH is not easy with all the different ports > needed by NFS, so what I could do ? > > Maybe running it over something like IPSec, VPNs, etc. ? > > Better alternatives ? > > > Thanks a lot! > > > -- > > bye! > > Alessandro de Manzano > Milano, Italy > > ale@unixmania.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 8:56:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sunny.pacific.net.sg (sunny.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFFF037B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 08:56:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naz27@pacific.net.sg) Received: from pop5.pacific.net.sg (pop5.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.140]) by sunny.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id f75Fuc227864 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:56:38 +0800 (SGT) Received: from pacific.net.sg (spoff99.pacific.net.sg [203.120.94.99]) by pop5.pacific.net.sg with SMTP id f75FucY08190 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:56:38 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <200108051556.f75FucY08190@pop5.pacific.net.sg> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: I wish to contact you on the ICQ Network From: naz27@pacific.net.sg Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:56:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I have tried to contact you through ICQ but couldn't find you in the ICQ Community! If you are using ICQ, please send me your ICQ number by ICQ Email Express to 126309474@pager.mirabilis.com If you are not using ICQ, I would like to invite you to join the ICQ community so we can send messages, chat and find more friends to join us. Download ICQ by going to: http://www.icq.com/download Once you do so, we can communicate online. Seek you @ ICQ Nazrul Islam ICQ #: 126309474 Here are the 4 ways you can find me in the ICQ community: - My ICQ number is 126309474 - My Personal Communication Center on the Web, from which you can send me a message without having the ICQ program is: http://wwp.icq.com/126309474 - You can send me an Email Express which will appear directly on my computer screen to 126309474@pager.mirabilis.com. - My ICQ Web Front is members.icq.com/126309474. If I am online and activated my ICQ Web Front, you will be able to have a 2 way dialog with me from this page. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 10:26: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6B337B403; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Received: from Brian (cx175057-b.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com [24.13.23.147]) by cx175057-a.ocnsd1.sdca.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f75HOLD33223; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bri@sonicboom.org) Message-ID: <004b01c11dd3$5b02ce20$3324200a@sonicboom.org> From: "Brian" To: "David Delibasic" , "Alessandro de Manzano" Cc: , References: <20010805144104.W34298-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:23:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yeah I was just about to say that ipsec is the most common solution for mapping this type of thing across the net. Bri ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Delibasic" To: "Alessandro de Manzano" Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:41 AM Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? > I'm running NFS over IPsec tunnel and it works fine.. > > D. > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > I'm looking for a way to establish a _secure_ NFS connection in a WAN / > > Internet environment. > > > > I know NFS is not secure from this point of view, so I would ask if > > someone have a solution. > > > > Encapsulating over SSH is not easy with all the different ports > > needed by NFS, so what I could do ? > > > > Maybe running it over something like IPSec, VPNs, etc. ? > > > > Better alternatives ? > > > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > > > -- > > > > bye! > > > > Alessandro de Manzano > > Milano, Italy > > > > ale@unixmania.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 11:25: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orbital.mtl.posixnet.org (orbital.mtl.posixnet.org [66.38.182.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3137B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:24:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Received: from colba.net (localhost.mtl.posixnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by orbital.mtl.posixnet.org (8.11.4/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f75ISvj04072 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:28:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from paul@colba.net) Message-ID: <3B6D9069.DF74B828@colba.net> Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 14:28:57 -0400 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPP over RS232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I have a 2 computers, one freebsd and one SUN Ultra Solaris 8. Ethernet card is busted on the SUB box and i would like to connect it with PPP over RS232 serial port. Is there any docs on how to run PPP over RS232 port ? Thanx Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 11:26:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from axis.tdd.lt (axis.tdd.lt [213.197.128.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3377037B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domas.mituzas@delfi.lt) Received: from localhost (midom@localhost) by axis.tdd.lt (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f75IT9A18312; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:29:09 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: axis.tdd.lt: midom owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:29:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Domas Mituzas X-X-Sender: To: Paul Khavkine Cc: Subject: Re: PPP over RS232 In-Reply-To: <3B6D9069.DF74B828@colba.net> Message-ID: <20010805182834.P18133-100000@axis.tdd.lt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a 2 computers, one freebsd and one SUN Ultra Solaris 8. > Ethernet card is busted on the SUB box and i would like to connect it > with PPP over RS232 serial port. > Is there any docs on how to run PPP over RS232 port ? simple leased line is equivalent to what you described. You simply need pppd's on both sides. Regards, Domas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 11:34: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dada.it (mail3.dada.it [195.110.96.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A50737B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ale@unixmania.net) Received: (qmail 14170 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2001 18:35:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO libero.sunshine.ale) (195.110.114.252) by mail.dada.it with SMTP; 5 Aug 2001 18:35:32 -0000 Received: by libero.sunshine.ale (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A978D5E79; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:33:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:33:43 +0200 From: Alessandro de Manzano To: David Delibasic Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? Message-ID: <20010805203343.A97345@libero.sunshine.ale> Reply-To: Alessandro de Manzano References: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> <20010805144104.W34298-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010805144104.W34298-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org>; from maddave@suxx.eu.org on Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:41:43PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:41:43PM +0200, David Delibasic wrote: > I'm running NFS over IPsec tunnel and it works fine.. very interesting :-) could you, please, tell me where I can find more information about setting up this ? Some examples maybe.. ;-) I know little about IPsec.. :-| Thanks a lot! bye! Ale ale@unixmania.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 17:17:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFCF37B403 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id KAA01949; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:17:16 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma001022; Mon, 6 Aug 01 10:16:38 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA13768; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:38 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA39036; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:16:26 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail / ipfw /username collecting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The 213.122.x.y addresses are managed by (I think) British Telecom. Their whois entry also says: remarks: Please send abuse notification to abuse@btinternet.com I'd try that along with logs giving date and time of "attacks". They might just decide to terminate this (ab)user's connection. Colin On Sat, 4 Aug 2001 Keith@apcs.com.au wrote: > Hi All > > I'm currently under attack to my Sendmail (ip's below) > > Every time I add them to the ipfw they start an hour or two > later with a new ip. Can I automate ipfw or sendmail to stop this. > > 213.122.48.161 213.122.192.99 213.1.128.134 > 213.122.114.186 213.122.52.253 213.122.78.31 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 17:43:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.plug.cx (kypo.alfred.cx [150.101.93.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552FF37B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.reid@plug.cx) Received: from percible.alfred.cx (percible.alfred.cx [150.101.93.190]) by mail.plug.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646262B7E4; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:12:01 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? From: Andrew Reid To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> References: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.12.99 (Preview Release) Date: 06 Aug 2001 10:11:56 +0930 Message-Id: <997058517.1033.26.camel@percible.alfred.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05 Aug 2001 13:41:10 +0200, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > Encapsulating over SSH is not easy with all the different ports > needed by NFS, so what I could do ? > > Maybe running it over something like IPSec, VPNs, etc. ? I use PPP over SSH when doing this sort of thing. Quick and easy. - andrew -- void signature () { cout << "Andrew Reid -- andrew.reid@plug.cx" << endl ; cout << "Cell: +61 401 946 813" << endl; cout << "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur" << endl; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 21:34:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F21437B401 for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 34471 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2001 04:34:40 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2001 04:34:40 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c11e31$7a0eddf0$0100a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Subject: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 00:37:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello i was able to bind second ip to my NIC, it seems binding just fine alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 66.255.255.255 ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active alexus@~# for some reason when i'm trying to irc using my second ip, it rolls over to first here is my routing table Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 59 380 fxp0 10/24 link#2 UC 0 0 dc0 => 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 6 0 fxp0 => 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 60 0 fxp0 1021 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 103 lo0 66.92.98.146 0:30:48:21:78:8f UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 66.92.98.147 0:30:48:21:7a:7 UHLW 0 4 fxp0 1170 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1194 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168 link#2 UC 1 0 dc0 => 192.168.0.6 0:d0:b7:9e:f:d3 UHLW 1 251 dc0 1185 alexus@~# 192.168.0.0 is my local dc0 is my local interface where 66.92.98.146-149 where all those ip came from? i have no idea... .1 is my gateway To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 5 21:49:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3B337B401; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 21:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id BAB7481D01; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:49:37 -0500 From: Bill Fumerola To: Andrew Reid Cc: Alessandro de Manzano , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? Message-ID: <20010805234937.B2759@elvis.mu.org> References: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> <997058517.1033.26.camel@percible.alfred.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <997058517.1033.26.camel@percible.alfred.cx>; from andrew.reid@plug.cx on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 10:11:56AM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-FEARSOME-20010712 i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 10:11:56AM +0930, Andrew Reid wrote: > > Maybe running it over something like IPSec, VPNs, etc. ? > > I use PPP over SSH when doing this sort of thing. Quick and easy. ... and absolutly horrible in times of packet loss or heavy latency. -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 6:34: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7FCA37B405 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 25329 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Aug 2001 13:34:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:34:20 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: alexus Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Message-ID: <20010806093420.C71790@databits.net> References: <002e01c11e31$7a0eddf0$0100a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002e01c11e31$7a0eddf0$0100a8c0@alexus>; from ml@db.nexgen.com on Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 12:37:18AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 06/08/01 00:37 -0400 - alexus: | i was able to bind second ip to my NIC, it seems binding just fine | | alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 | fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 | inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 | inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 66.255.255.255 ^^^^^^^^^^ You certainly don't want your netmask to be 255.0.0.0. In fact, for aliased IPs in the same subnet as the main IP on the card, you want to use 255.255.255.255. | ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 | media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) | status: active | alexus@~# | | for some reason when i'm trying to irc using my second ip, it rolls over to | first -pete -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 6:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.kornet.net (unknown [211.48.62.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02AF37B401; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:32:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clubfriend@clubfriend.com) Received: from bown112 (211.38.171.177) by relay2.kornet.net; 6 Aug 2001 22:32:55 +0900 Message-ID: <006801c11e7b$fe8f4f20$b1ab26d3@kornet.net> Reply-To: "Youn, Roy" From: "Youn, Roy" To: 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Cg== ------=_NextPart_000_0063_01C11EC7.693216A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 6:44:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16EA37B405 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 06:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com) Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly To: "alexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:26:37 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/06/2001 08:42:29 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Set the netmask for the alias ip to 255.255.255.255. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "alexus" To: Sent by: cc: owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly reeBSD.ORG 08/05/01 11:37 PM Hello i was able to bind second ip to my NIC, it seems binding just fine alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 66.255.255.255 ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active alexus@~# for some reason when i'm trying to irc using my second ip, it rolls over to first here is my routing table Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 59 380 fxp0 10/24 link#2 UC 0 0 dc0 => 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 6 0 fxp0 => 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 60 0 fxp0 1021 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 103 lo0 66.92.98.146 0:30:48:21:78:8f UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 66.92.98.147 0:30:48:21:7a:7 UHLW 0 4 fxp0 1170 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1194 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168 link#2 UC 1 0 dc0 => 192.168.0.6 0:d0:b7:9e:f:d3 UHLW 1 251 dc0 1185 alexus@~# 192.168.0.0 is my local dc0 is my local interface where 66.92.98.146-149 where all those ip came from? i have no idea... .1 is my gateway To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 9:53:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (unknown [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFE5537B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 38069 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2001 16:54:04 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2001 16:54:04 -0000 Message-ID: <019201c11e98$58e68850$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:53:41 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org su-2.05# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active su-2.05# for some reason on my original post i had different subnet.. my subnet mask for alias is 255.255.255.255 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > Set the netmask for the alias ip to 255.255.255.255. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "alexus" > To: > Sent by: cc: > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > reeBSD.ORG > > > 08/05/01 11:37 PM > > > > > > Hello > > i was able to bind second ip to my NIC, it seems binding just fine > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 66.255.255.255 > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > alexus@~# > > for some reason when i'm trying to irc using my second ip, it rolls over to > first > > here is my routing table > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 59 380 fxp0 > 10/24 link#2 UC 0 0 dc0 => > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 6 0 fxp0 => > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 60 0 fxp0 1021 > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 103 lo0 > 66.92.98.146 0:30:48:21:78:8f UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 > 66.92.98.147 0:30:48:21:7a:7 UHLW 0 4 fxp0 1170 > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1022 > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1194 > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 192.168 link#2 UC 1 0 dc0 => > 192.168.0.6 0:d0:b7:9e:f:d3 UHLW 1 251 dc0 1185 > alexus@~# > > 192.168.0.0 is my local > > dc0 is my local interface > > where 66.92.98.146-149 where all those ip came from? i have no idea... > .1 is my gateway > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 9:54:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (unknown [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BD7437B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 09:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 38106 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2001 16:55:07 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 6 Aug 2001 16:55:07 -0000 Message-ID: <01a201c11e98$7ecab280$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:54:45 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org su-2.05# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active su-2.05# in my original post for some reason on my original post i had different subnet.. my subnet mask for alias is 255.255.255.255 su-2.05# netstat -rn | grep fxp0 default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 68 316184 fxp0 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 6 0 fxp0 => 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 65 0 fxp0 745 66.92.98.146 0:30:48:21:78:8f UHLW 0 866 fxp0 848 66.92.98.147 0:30:48:21:7a:7 UHLW 0 100 fxp0 855 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 238 fxp0 760 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 2636 fxp0 560 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => su-2.05# To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 10:38:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spider.suxx.eu.org (unknown [194.249.141.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B895837B405; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddave@suxx.eu.org) Received: by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F7AA17BCC; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:40:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F8332B9E; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:40:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:40:45 +0200 (CEST) From: David Delibasic To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: , Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? In-Reply-To: <20010805203343.A97345@libero.sunshine.ale> Message-ID: <20010806193911.V38601-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Start with reading this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html D. On Sun, 5 Aug 2001, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2001 at 02:41:43PM +0200, David Delibasic wrote: > > > I'm running NFS over IPsec tunnel and it works fine.. > > very interesting :-) > > could you, please, tell me where I can find more information about > setting up this ? Some examples maybe.. ;-) > > I know little about IPsec.. :-| > > > Thanks a lot! > > > bye! > > Ale > > ale@unixmania.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 13:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B34F37B405 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:55:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.5/8.11.5) with BSMTP id f76Kt6E08432; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:55:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, paul@colba.net Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: Sendmail delivery timeout Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:53:36 +0200 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <3B6B3DEA.934A32D0@colba.net> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.91] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-No-Archive: yes X-ZC-VIA: 20010806000000S+2@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi folks, i have a question: > > Can delivery timeout be controlled per domain/host in sendmail ? > Ex: domain1.com - 4 days > domain2.com - 6 days > domain3.com - 1 day 1) Hack: You may achange the priority depended on the domain, so sendmail use diffrent timers. O Timeout.queuereturn=7d #O Timeout.queuereturn.normal=5d #O Timeout.queuereturn.urgent=2d #O Timeout.queuereturn.non-urgent=7d O Timeout.queuewarn=12h #O Timeout.queuewarn.urgent=1h #O Timeout.queuewarn.non-urgent=12h 2) Solution: you generate diffrent queues to store the outgoing mail in. And have a semdmail deamon for each queue that honors the right timeout. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 14:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from java2.dpcsys.com (java2.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D437B403 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 14:37:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by java2.dpcsys.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f76MQsJ94401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: looking to trade secondary DNS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The company I've been trading secondary DNS service with is closing down their ISP operations so I'm looking for someone else to trade with. We currently master ~ 350 zones and only add a few per month. If any of you are interested in trading secondary service please contact me off list. Thanks, Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 16: 2:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7A837B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id JAA15952; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:01:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma013569; Tue, 7 Aug 01 09:00:34 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07401; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:00:25 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02813; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:00:24 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:00:24 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: alexus Cc: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: <01a201c11e98$7ecab280$0d00a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am assuming you still have your original problems. 1) Why do you not see traffic from the alias? I am guessing that your irc server is bound to all addresses. When a UNIX system receives a packet for any address on the system it will accept it on the interface the packet came in on. All return packets will go out with that IP address. For example suupose you had xl0 = 192.168.1.1 xl1 = 10.0.0.1 If machine 10.0.0.2 sent a packet to 192.168.1.1, the machine would accept it on interface xl1 and all packets would come out with source of 10.0.0.1 despite being directed to 192.168.1.1. On some systems you can actually prevent this behaviour. ie if 10.0.0.2 sent to 192.168.1.1 you'd get back a "no route to host" or something similar. 2) The routes you queried are all host routes. If you "man netstat" you would have seen that the "UHLW" means H RTF_HOST Host entry (net otherwise) L RTF_LLINFO Valid protocol to link address translation U RTF_UP Route usable W RTF_WASCLONED Route was generated as a result of cloning Freebsd installs a host route for all local hosts. At least I think that's what happens. :-) Colin -- Colin Campbell Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster CITEC +61 7 3006 4710 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 17:16:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (unknown [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A43237B401 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 42515 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 00:17:11 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 00:17:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c11ed6$41653170$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 20:16:50 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my irc server? it ain't mine;) i'm trying to connect to *remote* irc server and i've tryed more then just one irc server.. issue is on my end no doubt.. i have another box which i was able to bind two ips and they working fine, both of them.. that's why i'm very confused here.. and I still need help to figure it out and fix it, so any suggests are very welcome thanks in advance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Campbell" To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Hi, > > I am assuming you still have your original problems. > > 1) Why do you not see traffic from the alias? I am guessing that your irc > server is bound to all addresses. When a UNIX system receives a packet for > any address on the system it will accept it on the interface the packet > came in on. All return packets will go out with that IP address. For > example suupose you had > > xl0 = 192.168.1.1 > xl1 = 10.0.0.1 > > If machine 10.0.0.2 sent a packet to 192.168.1.1, the machine would accept > it on interface xl1 and all packets would come out with source of 10.0.0.1 > despite being directed to 192.168.1.1. On some systems you can actually > prevent this behaviour. ie if 10.0.0.2 sent to 192.168.1.1 you'd get back > a "no route to host" or something similar. > > 2) The routes you queried are all host routes. If you "man > netstat" you would have seen that the "UHLW" means > > H RTF_HOST Host entry (net otherwise) > L RTF_LLINFO Valid protocol to link address translation > U RTF_UP Route usable > W RTF_WASCLONED Route was generated as a result of cloning > > Freebsd installs a host route for all local hosts. > > At least I think that's what happens. :-) > > Colin > -- > Colin Campbell > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > CITEC > +61 7 3006 4710 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 6 17:25:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B31D37B406 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id KAA07527; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:25:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma007317; Tue, 7 Aug 01 10:25:24 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05306; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:25:23 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA37907; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:25:23 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:25:23 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: alexus Cc: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: <000801c11ed6$41653170$0d00a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? 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Regards, eGroups Customer Support To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 10:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-104.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECEA37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f77HpQQ15391 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:51:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:51:26 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lost password Message-ID: <20010807135126.A15370@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <997205388.21.49292.f7@egroups.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <997205388.21.49292.f7@egroups.co.uk>; from notify@egroups.co.uk on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:48PM -0000 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:48PM -0000, eGroups Notification thus sprach: > > Hello, > > Thanks for using eGroups, home to free, easy, email groups. > We have received your request for information about a forgotten > password. 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This should be ugly. Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 833-3635 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Vermillion Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:51 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Lost password On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 05:29:48PM -0000, eGroups Notification thus sprach: > > Hello, > > Thanks for using eGroups, home to free, easy, email groups. > We have received your request for information about a forgotten > password. Hm. Is someone trolling for passwords using a little social engineering? -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 12:35: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57AB137B40E for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 48934 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 19:35:19 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 19:35:19 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c11f78$092c0160$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:34:55 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sure I bind 2nd ip to my nic and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first ip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Campbell" To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Hi, > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > Colin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 13:26:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 793F537B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:26:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 49388 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 20:26:29 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 20:26:29 -0000 Message-ID: <003301c11f7f$2f29a2d0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:26:05 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm sorry i accidently delete your email so i'm replayin to old one again ssh to 2nd ip wouldn't make a difference i can slect ip/host within my ircclient and just to make sure i did ssh to 2nd ip and its still same thing ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > sure > > I bind 2nd ip to my nic > > and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first ip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Campbell" > To: "alexus" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > Hi, > > > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > > > Colin > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 13:31: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD5337B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com) Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly To: "alexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:29:21 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/07/2001 03:29:24 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are attempting to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Sent by: cc: owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly reeBSD.ORG 08/07/01 03:26 PM i'm sorry i accidently delete your email so i'm replayin to old one again ssh to 2nd ip wouldn't make a difference i can slect ip/host within my ircclient and just to make sure i did ssh to 2nd ip and its still same thing ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > sure > > I bind 2nd ip to my nic > > and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first ip > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Campbell" > To: "alexus" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > Hi, > > > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > > > Colin > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 13:33:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A9037B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 13:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f77KW1R85067; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:32:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:32:01 -0500 From: Charlie & To: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Cc: alexus , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Message-ID: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are attempting > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? If one IP address gets banned, just add another? -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:10:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B02937B686 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 885 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:07:31 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:07:31 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c11f85$09e63dc0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:07:59 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i did that by suggest of someone from the list i know it doesn't make any sense but for the heck of it, i've tryed it anyway basically, i have several virtual host (ips w/ differernt reverse domain name) and i'm trying to irc using my second virtual host that's what i'm trying to accomplished ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are attempting > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "alexus" > To: "Colin Campbell" > Sent by: cc: > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > reeBSD.ORG > > > 08/07/01 03:26 PM > > > > > > i'm sorry i accidently delete your email > > so i'm replayin to old one again > > ssh to 2nd ip wouldn't make a difference > > i can slect ip/host within my ircclient > > and just to make sure i did ssh to 2nd ip and its still same thing > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "Colin Campbell" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > sure > > > > I bind 2nd ip to my nic > > > > and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first ip > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin Campbell" > > To: "alexus" > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:10:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27D4137B62F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 895 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:08:29 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:08:29 -0000 Message-ID: <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Charlie &" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:08:58 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my ip isn't baned and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it rolls over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie &" To: Cc: "alexus" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are attempting > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > -Steve > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:16:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3504137B43B for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com) Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly To: "alexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:13:17 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/07/2001 04:13:19 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What client are you using? I have some irc client from ports installed and typing irc --help seemed to provide the answer: > irc -help Usage: irc [switches] [nickname] [server list] The [nickname] can be at most 9 characters long on some server The [server list] is a whitespace separate list of server name The [switches] may be any or all of the following -c joins o startup -p default IRC server connection port (usually 6667) -P default ICB server connection port (usually 7326) -f your terminal uses flow controls (^S/^Q), so IRCII shouldn't -F your terminal doesn't use flow control (default) -r reverse terminal colours (only if colours are aktivated) -s don't use separate server processes (ircio) -S use separate server processes (ircio) -h source host, for multihomed machines <--------------------------------------------------- do this -d runs IRCII in "dumb" terminal mode -q does not load .ircrc and not .ircquick -a adds default servers and command line servers to server list -b load .ircrc before connecting to a server -l loads in place of your .ircrc -I loads in place of your .ircquick -icb use ICB connections by default -irc use IRC connections by default icb [same switches] (default to -icb) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "alexus" To: Sent by: cc: owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly reeBSD.ORG 08/07/01 04:07 PM i did that by suggest of someone from the list i know it doesn't make any sense but for the heck of it, i've tryed it anyway basically, i have several virtual host (ips w/ differernt reverse domain name) and i'm trying to irc using my second virtual host that's what i'm trying to accomplished ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are attempting > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "alexus" > To: "Colin Campbell" > Sent by: cc: > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > reeBSD.ORG > > > 08/07/01 03:26 PM > > > > > > i'm sorry i accidently delete your email > > so i'm replayin to old one again > > ssh to 2nd ip wouldn't make a difference > > i can slect ip/host within my ircclient > > and just to make sure i did ssh to 2nd ip and its still same thing > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "Colin Campbell" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > sure > > > > I bind 2nd ip to my nic > > > > and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first ip > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Colin Campbell" > > To: "alexus" > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:17:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBD137B624 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f77LGZ382815; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:16:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:13:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP that your irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to do that for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to specify the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select as the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab your main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of 0xfffffff and does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). -Steve > my ip isn't baned > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it rolls > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: > Cc: "alexus" ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > wrote: > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > attempting > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > -Steve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:40:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1D4537B40F for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:40:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1146 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:39:45 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:39:45 -0000 Message-ID: <002701c11f89$8aa75fd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:40:13 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org actually i'm using BitchX but ircII gives me same error alexus@~# irc --version ircII version 4.4Z (20000831) alexus@~# ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > What client are you using? I have some irc client from ports installed and > typing irc --help seemed to provide the answer: > > > irc -help > Usage: irc [switches] [nickname] [server list] > The [nickname] can be at most 9 characters long on some server > The [server list] is a whitespace separate list of server name > The [switches] may be any or all of the following > -c joins o startup > -p default IRC server connection port (usually 6667) > -P default ICB server connection port (usually 7326) > -f your terminal uses flow controls (^S/^Q), so IRCII > shouldn't > -F your terminal doesn't use flow control (default) > -r reverse terminal colours (only if colours are aktivated) > -s don't use separate server processes (ircio) > -S use separate server processes (ircio) > -h source host, for multihomed machines > <--------------------------------------------------- do this > -d runs IRCII in "dumb" terminal mode > -q does not load .ircrc and not .ircquick > -a adds default servers and command line servers to server > list > -b load .ircrc before connecting to a server > -l loads in place of your .ircrc > -I loads in place of your .ircquick > -icb use ICB connections by default > -irc use IRC connections by default > icb [same switches] (default to -icb) > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "alexus" > To: > Sent by: cc: > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > reeBSD.ORG > > > 08/07/01 04:07 PM > > > > > > i did that by suggest of someone from the list > > i know it doesn't make any sense but for the heck of it, i've tryed it > anyway > > basically, i have several virtual host (ips w/ differernt reverse domain > name) and i'm trying to irc using my second virtual host > > that's what i'm trying to accomplished > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "alexus" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > attempting > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server why > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > > Keno Kozie Associates > > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > > Chicago, IL 60606 > > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > > > > > > > "alexus" > > To: "Colin Campbell" > > > Sent by: cc: > > > owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: another > ip > as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > reeBSD.ORG > > > > > > 08/07/01 03:26 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm sorry i accidently delete your email > > > > so i'm replayin to old one again > > > > ssh to 2nd ip wouldn't make a difference > > > > i can slect ip/host within my ircclient > > > > and just to make sure i did ssh to 2nd ip and its still same thing > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alexus" > > To: "Colin Campbell" > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:34 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > I bind 2nd ip to my nic > > > > > > and whenever i'm trying to irc using second ip, it rolls over to first > ip > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Colin Campbell" > > > To: "alexus" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 8:25 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Since I've got it all wrong, would you care to restate your problem? > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:43:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 396FF37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1198 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:42:34 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:42:34 -0000 Message-ID: <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:43:03 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org my irc client supports that in BitchX it's option -H and in ircII it's -h alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active alexus@~# this is my NIC w/ two of my ips whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 here is my routing table alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 429 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1023 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 712 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 904 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 alexus@~# i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing table ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP that > your > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to do that > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to specify > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select as > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab your > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of 0xfffffff and > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > -Steve > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it rolls > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > > attempting > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server > why > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:46:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AA037B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f77LkCx76581; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:46:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:43:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And the command your using is: BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > my irc client supports that > > in BitchX it's option -H > and in ircII it's -h > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > alexus@~# > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > here is my routing table > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 429 > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1023 > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 712 > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 904 > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > alexus@~# > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing > table > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Ames" > To: "alexus" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP that > > your > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to do > that > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to > specify > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select as > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab your > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of 0xfffffff and > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it rolls > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > > > attempting > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc server > > why > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out of? > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:48:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C09C837B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:48:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1280 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:47:35 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:47:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c11f8a$a2c98bf0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:48:03 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have virtual host for this ip MbI.PyCCKuE.com so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server i've tryed with ip too same thing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > And the command your using is: > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > ?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "Steven Ames" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > status: active > > alexus@~# > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > here is my routing table > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 429 > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1023 > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 712 > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 904 > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > alexus@~# > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing > > table > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Ames" > > To: "alexus" ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP that > > > your > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to do > > that > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to > > specify > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select as > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab > your > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of 0xfffffff > and > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it > rolls > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > To: > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > > > > attempting > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc > server > > > why > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out > of? > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:50:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9440537B405 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f77Loex03384; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:50:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <029301c11f8a$93a1b1c0$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <000f01c11f8a$a2c98bf0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:47:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the netmask on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are real good reasons :) -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > i have virtual host for this ip > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > i've tryed with ip too > > same thing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Ames" > To: "alexus" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > ?? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alexus" > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu > 1500 > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > status: active > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > Routing tables > > > > > > Internet: > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 > 429 > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 > 1023 > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 > 712 > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 > 904 > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing > > > table > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP > that > > > > your > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to do > > > that > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to > > > specify > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select as > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab > > your > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of 0xfffffff > > and > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it > > rolls > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > To: > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you are > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc > > server > > > > why > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking out > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:54:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B5FE37B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1432 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:54:06 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:54:06 -0000 Message-ID: <002101c11f8b$8c1c88c0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <000f01c11f8a$a2c98bf0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <029301c11f8a$93a1b1c0$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:54:35 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org been there.. done that... same thing... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the netmask > on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case > 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can > think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are real > good reasons :) > > -Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "Steven Ames" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > i have virtual host for this ip > > > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > > > i've tryed with ip too > > > > same thing > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Ames" > > To: "alexus" ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "alexus" > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu > > 1500 > > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > status: active > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > > Routing tables > > > > > > > > Internet: > > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 > > 429 > > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 > > 1023 > > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 > > 712 > > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 > > 904 > > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this > routing > > > > table > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP > > that > > > > > your > > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to > do > > > > that > > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to > > > > specify > > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select > as > > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab > > > your > > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of > 0xfffffff > > > and > > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it > > > rolls > > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you > are > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc > > > server > > > > > why > > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking > out > > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:55:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEF337B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com) Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly To: "alexus" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:53:44 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 08/07/2001 04:53:49 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe try freebsd-questions and see if anyone there knows. I can count on one hand how many times I've dealt with irc since about 1994 heh. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "alexus" , .com> cc: 08/07/01 Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly 04:54 PM been there.. done that... same thing... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the netmask > on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case > 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can > think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are real > good reasons :) > > -Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "alexus" > To: "Steven Ames" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > i have virtual host for this ip > > > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > > > i've tryed with ip too > > > > same thing > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Ames" > > To: "alexus" ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "alexus" > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu > > 1500 > > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > status: active > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > > Routing tables > > > > > > > > Internet: > > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > Expire > > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 > > 429 > > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 > > 1023 > > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 > > 712 > > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 > > 904 > > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this > routing > > > > table > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ IP > > that > > > > > your > > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going to > do > > > > that > > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you to > > > > specify > > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will select > as > > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to grab > > > your > > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of > 0xfffffff > > > and > > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip it > > > rolls > > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you > are > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an irc > > > server > > > > > why > > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking > out > > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:56:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B6A37B40A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f77Ltxx63777; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:55:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <02b701c11f8b$5174aa40$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <000f01c11f8a$a2c98bf0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <029301c11f8a$93a1b1c0$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002101c11f8b$8c1c88c0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:52:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Really? That's pretty annoying. I'm out of clever thoughts and ideas then. Next. > been there.. done that... > > same thing... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Ames" > To: "alexus" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the netmask > > on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case > > 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can > > think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are > real > > good reasons :) > > > > -Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alexus" > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > i have virtual host for this ip > > > > > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > > > > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > > > > > i've tryed with ip too > > > > > > same thing > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "alexus" > > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > > > fxp0: flags=8943 mtu > > > 1500 > > > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > > status: active > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > > > Routing tables > > > > > > > > > > Internet: > > > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > > Expire > > > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 > => > > > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 > > > 429 > > > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 > > > 1023 > > > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 > > > 712 > > > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 > > > 904 > > > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > => > > > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this > > routing > > > > > table > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ > IP > > > that > > > > > > your > > > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going > to > > do > > > > > that > > > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you > to > > > > > specify > > > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will > select > > as > > > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to > grab > > > > your > > > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of > > 0xfffffff > > > > and > > > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip > it > > > > rolls > > > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what you > > are > > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an > irc > > > > server > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking > > out > > > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:58:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A361C37B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1530 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:57:57 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:57:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01c11f8c$1567c810$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:58:25 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heh lucky you;) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:53 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > Maybe try freebsd-questions and see if anyone there knows. I can count on > one hand how many times I've dealt with irc since about 1994 heh. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "alexus" > , > .com> > cc: > 08/07/01 Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > 04:54 PM > > > > > > been there.. done that... > > same thing... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Ames" > To: "alexus" ; > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the > netmask > > on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case > > 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can > > think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are > real > > good reasons :) > > > > -Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "alexus" > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > i have virtual host for this ip > > > > > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > > > > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > > > > > i've tryed with ip too > > > > > > same thing > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "alexus" > > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > > > fxp0: flags=8943 > mtu > > > 1500 > > > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast 66.92.98.255 > > > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > > status: active > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > > > Routing tables > > > > > > > > > > Internet: > > > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > > > Expire > > > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 > => > > > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 > > > 429 > > > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 > > > 1023 > > > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 > > > 712 > > > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 > > > 904 > > > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > => > > > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this > > routing > > > > > table > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ > IP > > > that > > > > > > your > > > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going > to > > do > > > > > that > > > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you > to > > > > > specify > > > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will > select > > as > > > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to > grab > > > > your > > > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of > > 0xfffffff > > > > and > > > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second ip > it > > > > rolls > > > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what > you > > are > > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an > irc > > > > server > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is talking > > out > > > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 14:58:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71CD637B419 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 1545 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 21:58:10 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 21:58:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c11f8c$1d65d520$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Steven Ames" , Cc: References: <20010807153201.A73493@virtual-voodoo.com> <003101c11f85$2ca225e0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <022f01c11f85$d08fc900$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> <028101c11f89$f40bf710$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <000f01c11f8a$a2c98bf0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <029301c11f8a$93a1b1c0$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <002101c11f8b$8c1c88c0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <02b701c11f8b$5174aa40$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:58:38 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org *sigh* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ames" To: "alexus" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Really? That's pretty annoying. I'm out of clever thoughts and ideas then. > > Next. > > > been there.. done that... > > > > same thing... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Ames" > > To: "alexus" ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:47 PM > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > Wow. At the risk of breaking everything else, could you change the > netmask > > > on the IPs so that they both have the same netmask? (in this case > > > 0xffffff00) Then try the BitchX command again and see if it works. I can > > > think of reasons why that would make a difference but none of them are > > real > > > good reasons :) > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "alexus" > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:48 PM > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > i have virtual host for this ip > > > > > > > > MbI.PyCCKuE.com > > > > > > > > so i do BitchX -H MbI.PyCCKuE.com nick irc.server > > > > > > > > i've tryed with ip too > > > > > > > > same thing > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:43 PM > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the command your using is: > > > > > > > > > > BitchX -H 66.92.98.151 irx.whatever > > > > > > > > > > ?? > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "alexus" > > > > > To: "Steven Ames" ; > > > > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:43 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my irc client supports that > > > > > > > > > > > > in BitchX it's option -H > > > > > > and in ircII it's -h > > > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# ifconfig fxp0 > > > > > > fxp0: flags=8943 > mtu > > > > 1500 > > > > > > inet 66.92.98.145 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast > 66.92.98.255 > > > > > > inet 66.92.98.151 netmask 0xffffffff broadcast > 66.92.98.255 > > > > > > ether 00:60:94:a5:cb:44 > > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > > > > > > status: active > > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > this is my NIC w/ two of my ips > > > > > > > > > > > > whenever i'm tryin to use .151 it rolls over to .145 > > > > > > > > > > > > here is my routing table > > > > > > > > > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > > > > > Routing tables > > > > > > > > > > > > Internet: > > > > > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use > Netif > > > > Expire > > > > > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 > fxp0 > > > > > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 > fxp0 > > => > > > > > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 > fxp0 > > > > 429 > > > > > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 > lo0 > > > > > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 > fxp0 > > > > 1023 > > > > > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 > fxp0 > > > > 712 > > > > > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 > fxp0 > > > > 904 > > > > > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 > fxp0 > > => > > > > > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 > lo0 > > > > > > alexus@~# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this > > > routing > > > > > > table > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Steven Ames" > > > > > > To: "alexus" ; > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:13 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So... to be clear... you want to be able to specify the _source_ > > IP > > > > that > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > irc client will use when it connects outward? The OS isn't going > > to > > > do > > > > > > that > > > > > > > for you. Your client will have to have an option that allows you > > to > > > > > > specify > > > > > > > the source IP (much like the '-S' option of 'ping'). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's been some discussion recently about what the OS will > > select > > > as > > > > > > > the source address. In this case its pretty clear. Its going to > > grab > > > > > your > > > > > > > main IP address (i.e. the one that doesn't have a netmask of > > > 0xfffffff > > > > > and > > > > > > > does share a subnet with your default gateway/next hop). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my ip isn't baned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the problem is that whenever i'm trying to use my second > ip > > it > > > > > rolls > > > > > > > > over to first, and thats what i'm trying to figureout and fix > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:32 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0500, > > > > > Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it safe to say that no one has a clue as to what > you > > > are > > > > > > > > attempting > > > > > > > > > > to do. If you are using an irc -client- to connect to an > > irc > > > > > server > > > > > > > why > > > > > > > > > > are you worried about what source ip your client is > talking > > > out > > > > > of? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If one IP address gets banned, just add another? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 15:40:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DABB037B40D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id IAA04801; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:39:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma004780; Wed, 8 Aug 01 08:39:55 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA11070; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:39:55 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA91837; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:39:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:39:52 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: alexus Cc: Steven Ames , , Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: <002d01c11f89$efa67a10$0d00a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > here is my routing table > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 429 > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1023 > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 712 > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 904 > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > alexus@~# > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing > table I answered that question in a previous email. Freebsd and, I think, many other BSD based systems, install a host route (the "H" in "UHLW") for any machine on the local lan that has connected to you. It also seems like .149 and .150 are the same NIC on that machine. Colin -- Colin Campbell Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster CITEC +61 7 3006 4710 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 16: 0:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21C8237B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 2055 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 23:00:08 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 23:00:08 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: "Steven Ames" , , References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:00:36 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Campbell" To: "alexus" Cc: "Steven Ames" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:39 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Hi, > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > > > here is my routing table > > > > alexus@~# netstat -rn | grep -v dc0 > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > default 66.92.98.1 UGSc 66 84980 fxp0 > > 66.92.98/24 link#1 UC 5 0 fxp0 => > > 66.92.98.1 0:10:67:0:8d:68 UHLW 64 0 fxp0 429 > > 66.92.98.145 0:60:94:a5:cb:44 UHLW 1 88 lo0 > > 66.92.98.148 0:30:48:21:78:a6 UHLW 0 2 fxp0 1023 > > 66.92.98.149 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 4652 fxp0 712 > > 66.92.98.150 0:30:48:21:3c:c9 UHLW 0 512 fxp0 904 > > 66.92.98.151/32 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 835 lo0 > > alexus@~# > > > > > > i still dont really know where 148,149,150 ip came from in this routing > > table > > I answered that question in a previous email. Freebsd and, I think, many > other BSD based systems, install a host route (the "H" in "UHLW") for any > machine on the local lan that has connected to you. It also seems like > .149 and .150 are the same NIC on that machine. > no no dude I own 8 ips and .146-150 is ips bind on other boxes thats why i'm able to see their MAC address but i dont understand why are they in my routing table on this box which has only two ips .145 and .151 but maybe you right with H and UHLW i'm not very familiar with that so i'll take your word for that question still remains... why wouldn't it work i mean ircing using 2nd ip > Colin > -- > Colin Campbell > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > CITEC > +61 7 3006 4710 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 16: 6:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.plug.cx (kypo.alfred.cx [150.101.93.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B0D37B40C; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew.reid@plug.cx) Received: from percible.alfred.cx (percible.alfred.cx [150.101.93.190]) by mail.plug.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3272B87A; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 18:37:13 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: NFS and WAN ? From: Andrew Reid To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Alessandro de Manzano , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010805234937.B2759@elvis.mu.org> References: <20010805134110.A96445@libero.sunshine.ale> <997058517.1033.26.camel@percible.alfred.cx> <20010805234937.B2759@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.12.99 (Preview Release) Date: 08 Aug 2001 18:05:42 +0930 Message-Id: <997259742.1099.99.camel@percible.alfred.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05 Aug 2001 23:49:37 -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > I use PPP over SSH when doing this sort of thing. Quick and easy. > > ... and absolutly horrible in times of packet loss or heavy latency. Indeed. But, it *does* make for a quick and easy VPN in a situation where IPSec is, er, "overkill". I've run it from dialup, and it's "interesting". On E1 or greater, it's quite acceptable. - andrew -- void signature () { cout << "Andrew Reid -- andrew.reid@plug.cx" << endl ; cout << "Cell: +61 401 946 813" << endl; cout << "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur" << endl; } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 16:10:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB137B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id JAA16550; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:10:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma016054; Wed, 8 Aug 01 09:09:46 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16014; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:09:42 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04425; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:09:39 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 09:09:39 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: alexus Cc: Steven Ames , , Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > no no dude > > I own 8 ips > > and .146-150 is ips bind on other boxes > > thats why i'm able to see their MAC address > but i dont understand why are they in my routing table on this box For the third time: When one of those boxes connects to your box, the OS installs a host route for that box. That's why they are in the routing table. > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". Colin -- Colin Campbell Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster CITEC +61 7 3006 4710 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 16:43:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marius.org (cdm-208-219-120-coll.cox-internet.com [208.180.219.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C5637B401 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@marius.org) Received: (from marius@localhost) by marius.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f77NhHb51866; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:43:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 18:43:17 -0500 From: Marius Strom To: Colin Campbell Cc: alexus , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Message-ID: <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> Mail-Followup-To: Colin Campbell , alexus , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:09:39AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can this thread be clobbered until we get some realistic troubleshooting information here? I think 99.9% of people on this list do agree that ethernet address aliasing does work on FreeBSD, and let's leave it at that. On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:09:39AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: > > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip > > I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it > does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't > you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it > does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". > > Colin > -- > Colin Campbell > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > CITEC > +61 7 3006 4710 > > -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator URL: http://www.marius.org/ http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back and so, here we are, victims of mathematics. -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 17:10:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4C6D37B40C for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:10:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 2270 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 00:09:59 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 00:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c11f9e$f2734920$0100a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: "Steven Ames" , , References: Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:13:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Campbell" To: "alexus" Cc: "Steven Ames" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Hi, > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > > > no no dude > > > > I own 8 ips > > > > and .146-150 is ips bind on other boxes > > > > thats why i'm able to see their MAC address > > but i dont understand why are they in my routing table on this box > > For the third time: When one of those boxes connects to your box, the OS > installs a host route for that box. That's why they are in the routing > table. and i said, ok I'll take your word for it :-) (thank you for explaining) > > > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip > > I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it my irc software works fine .. i tryed 2 different software and i took binary that i compiled on other boxes and it works fine over there. > does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't shell providers using same thing and it works for them just fine > you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it unfortinatly i'm not very good at coding so is there a way you can take look yourself? i'll give you all info where to take source code and i also can provide you with shell on my box for all your tests > does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". > > Colin > -- > Colin Campbell > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > CITEC > +61 7 3006 4710 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 17:13:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A780237B403 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 2305 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 00:12:31 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 00:12:31 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c11f9f$4d129890$0100a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Marius Strom" , "Colin Campbell" Cc: References: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 20:15:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marius Strom" To: "Colin Campbell" Cc: "alexus" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > Can this thread be clobbered until we get some realistic troubleshooting I would *love* to provide you with any kind of information related to this issue, i just don't know what else to provide you with I post my ifconfig, routing table, irc client, detailed problem what else? > information here? I think 99.9% of people on this list do agree that i'm sure it does, it works fine on my other boxes.. > ethernet address aliasing does work on FreeBSD, and let's leave it at > that. > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:09:39AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: > > > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > > > > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip > > > > I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it > > does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't > > you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it > > does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". > > > > Colin > > -- > > Colin Campbell > > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > > CITEC > > +61 7 3006 4710 > > > > > > -- > Marius Strom > Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator > URL: http://www.marius.org/ > http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* > > It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be an > equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back and > so, here we are, victims of mathematics. > -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 19: 3: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marius.org (cdm-208-219-120-coll.cox-internet.com [208.180.219.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B0537B41C for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marius@marius.org) Received: (from marius@localhost) by marius.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f7822xt52507; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 21:02:58 -0500 From: Marius Strom To: alexus Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Message-ID: <20010807210258.R1013@marius.org> Mail-Followup-To: alexus , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> <002401c11f9f$4d129890$0100a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002401c11f9f$4d129890$0100a8c0@alexus>; from ml@db.nexgen.com on Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:15:58PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org truss(1) output for example. I really think that this needs to be moved to -questions, as suggested before, as I don't think this really pertains to the -isp charter. On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:15:58PM -0400, alexus wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marius Strom" > To: "Colin Campbell" > Cc: "alexus" ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:43 PM > Subject: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > Can this thread be clobbered until we get some realistic troubleshooting > > I would *love* to provide you with any kind of information related to this > issue, i just don't know what else to provide you with > I post my ifconfig, routing table, irc client, detailed problem > what else? > > > information here? I think 99.9% of people on this list do agree that > > i'm sure it does, it works fine on my other boxes.. > > > ethernet address aliasing does work on FreeBSD, and let's leave it at > > that. > > > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:09:39AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: > > > > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > > > > > > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip > > > > > > I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it > > > does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't > > > you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it > > > does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". > > > > > > Colin > > > -- > > > Colin Campbell > > > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > > > CITEC > > > +61 7 3006 4710 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Marius Strom > > Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator > > URL: http://www.marius.org/ > > http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* > > > > It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be > an > > equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back > and > > so, here we are, victims of mathematics. > > -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Marius Strom Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator URL: http://www.marius.org/ http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be an equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back and so, here we are, victims of mathematics. -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 22:29: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A163337B406 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 22:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 3383 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 05:28:27 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 05:28:27 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01c11fcb$7111f930$0100a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Marius Strom" Cc: References: <001501c11f94$c54b1ea0$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> <002401c11f9f$4d129890$0100a8c0@alexus> <20010807210258.R1013@marius.org> Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 01:31:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org whoever dealing with my topic do you need truss output? I honestly don't think that anyone needs that but if you do please do ask (in private/direct is fine) Marius this is very much isp related topic, if you don't like it, unfortunately there is nothing I can do here, I don't wish to annoy you but I do need help with this issue so far you the only who who's "bitchin" about it just leave it alone and let other folks who wants to help deal with it thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marius Strom" To: "alexus" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > truss(1) output for example. I really think that this needs to be moved > to -questions, as suggested before, as I don't think this really > pertains to the -isp charter. > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2001 at 08:15:58PM -0400, alexus wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marius Strom" > > To: "Colin Campbell" > > Cc: "alexus" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:43 PM > > Subject: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > > > > > > > Can this thread be clobbered until we get some realistic troubleshooting > > > > I would *love* to provide you with any kind of information related to this > > issue, i just don't know what else to provide you with > > I post my ifconfig, routing table, irc client, detailed problem > > what else? > > > > > information here? I think 99.9% of people on this list do agree that > > > > i'm sure it does, it works fine on my other boxes.. > > > > > ethernet address aliasing does work on FreeBSD, and let's leave it at > > > that. > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 09:09:39AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote: > > > > > question still remains... why wouldn't it work > > > > > > > > > > i mean ircing using 2nd ip > > > > > > > > I don't know. Maybe your irc software doesn't really do what it says it > > > > does. Maybe the -H doesn't work if it's not a real interface. Why don't > > > > you have a look at the code? It won't be that hard to work out what it > > > > does with the -H option. Look for code around calls to "bind()". > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > -- > > > > Colin Campbell > > > > Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster > > > > CITEC > > > > +61 7 3006 4710 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Marius Strom > > > Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator > > > URL: http://www.marius.org/ > > > http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* > > > > > > It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be > > an > > > equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back > > and > > > so, here we are, victims of mathematics. > > > -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Marius Strom > Professional Geek/Unix System Administrator > URL: http://www.marius.org/ > http://www.marius.org/marius.pgp 0xF5D89089 *updated 2001-02-26* > > It is a natural law. Physics tells us that for every action, there must be an > equal and opposite reaction. They hate us, we hate them, they hate us back and > so, here we are, victims of mathematics. > -- Londo, "A Voice in the Wilderness I" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 7 23:37:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2A137B409 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:37:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA26278; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:33:20 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: alexus Cc: Marius Strom , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly In-Reply-To: <001f01c11fcb$7111f930$0100a8c0@alexus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > Marius this is very much isp related topic, if you don't like it, > unfortunately there is nothing I can do here, I don't wish to annoy you but > I do need help with this issue I think I would agree with Marius. A better place for this question is in -questions, or if you don't get help there, in the networking area. That said, the people in the networking list (I can't remember the appropriate list name) are probably going to be asking you more about the code, etc. Perhaps an even better place would be on the BitchX or irc client lists. This is obviously a client problem at this point, unless you can prove that *NOTHING* can bind to a specific IP Address. As far as the list charter, this list is for issues related to *RUNNING* an ISP. Let me give you a for instance... "Why won't apache bind to my second IP" would be a valid question. "Why won't my irc SERVER bind to the second IP" would also be a vaild question. "Why won't my irc CLIENT bind to my second IP" is more along the lines of a "user" question. In all reality, the people who monitor and answer -questions are probably going to be MUCH more able to answer this question than the people here because this problem doesn't deal with software that the majority of the people on this list use on a daily basis. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 4:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9C437B413; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 04:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f78BTqQ60215; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:29:52 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: from wf-138.aipo.gov.au(192.168.1.138) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma060213; Wed, 8 Aug 01 21:29:50 +1000 Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f78BTp900605; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:29:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:29:50 +1000 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Having a FreeBSD based firewall approved for Australian Government use (getting on EPL) Message-ID: <20010808212948.A575@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I am writing to invite expressions of interest from those who may wish to help pay the fee to have FreeBSD and other open source software evaluated and approved as firewall products for Australian Government use (products that meet the 'common criteria' at the E3 level and have been independently validated - that's the fee part - and so become part of the 'Endorsed Product List [EPL]). The background is that my employer has been a happy user of a FreeBSD based firewall for some years but with a change to a more risk averse and ignorant management, the cost of the firewall is being compared to outsourcing the service, or replacing it by a Commonwealth of Australia approved firewall (an E3 rated product from the EPL). Such products include PIX (?? maybe E1 only) and Gauntlet. Maybe Firewall-1. Part of the attraction of having FreeBSD on the EPL is commercial products drop of the EPL at the whim of the vendor, and one is faced with the prospect of doing it all gain with a different product. A very sensible man has suggested that the cost of hardware, approved software and setup may in fact approach the A $100k for the evaluation fee (the evaluation is __not__ like the Orange book approach. An E3 rating means something like an inspection of the source has shown evidence of software engineering principles). Obviously we will only proceed if we find we can save money by using software that we like and have found trustworthy. We would submit FreeBSD RELEASE and some other famous name software for evaluation (and reevaluation when the software changes). The TrustedBSD project is obviously an alternative and probably superior approach but we cannot afford to wait for its release. Should anyone be interested in a consortium approach to having FreeBSD being approved for the Australian EPL, or wish to share any advice about this matter, please let me know. Thank you, Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft IP Australia Network Specialist +61 2 6283 3189 +61 2 6281 1353 (FAX) Stanley.Hopcroft@IPAustralia.Gov.AU ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reclaimer, spare that tree! Take not a single bit! It used to point to me, Now I'm protecting it. 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ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgDQo8L1Njcmlw dD4gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICANCiAgICAgICAgDQo8L2JvZHk+ICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICANCjwvaHRtbD4= ------=_NextPart_yZNwfFJIk6XxQT65OJsAA-- ------=_NextPart_yZNwfFJIk6XxQT65OJs-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 8: 3:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A53A937B403 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 6089 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 15:02:46 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 15:02:46 -0000 Message-ID: <017901c1201b$3e178860$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: "Marius Strom" , References: Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:03:11 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: "alexus" Cc: "Marius Strom" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:33 AM Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, alexus wrote: > > > Marius this is very much isp related topic, if you don't like it, > > unfortunately there is nothing I can do here, I don't wish to annoy you but > > I do need help with this issue > > I think I would agree with Marius. A better place for this question is in > -questions, or if you don't get help there, in the networking area. That > said, the people in the networking list (I can't remember the appropriate > list name) are probably going to be asking you more about the code, etc. > *sigh*, i'm going post this question on -questions as well and in networking area too > Perhaps an even better place would be on the BitchX or irc client > lists. This is obviously a client problem at this point, unless you can > prove that *NOTHING* can bind to a specific IP Address. > > As far as the list charter, this list is for issues related to *RUNNING* > an ISP. Let me give you a for instance... "Why won't apache bind to my > second IP" would be a valid question. "Why won't my irc SERVER bind to > the second IP" would also be a vaild question. "Why won't my irc CLIENT > bind to my second IP" is more along the lines of a "user" question. > I disagree, I'm a little ISP and my users can't use 2nd ip for their irc, thats why i'm here asking this question and this is not a user related problem, this is definatly not. I already tryed 3 different clients so this is isn't software issue at least not irc client software > > In all reality, the people who monitor and answer -questions are probably > going to be MUCH more able to answer this question than the people here > because this problem doesn't deal with software that the majority of the > people on this list use on a daily basis. > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 > http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 > Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 8:27:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E1637B40C for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiggy@wopr.akitanet.co.uk) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-201.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.201] helo=wopr.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15UVE0-000F1U-00; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:26:24 +0100 Received: from wiggy by wopr.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.21 #2) id 15UVJ5-00091t-00; Wed, 08 Aug 2001 16:31:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:31:39 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: alexus Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , Marius Strom , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Message-ID: <20010808163139.B29584@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <017901c1201b$3e178860$0d00a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <017901c1201b$3e178860$0d00a8c0@alexus>; from ml@db.nexgen.com on Wed, Aug 08, 2001 at 11:03:11AM -0400 X-Scanner: exiscan *15UVE0-000F1U-00*$AK$t8B241jZe1joh5GcnqqM60* Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Aug 8, alexus wrote: > I disagree, I'm a little ISP and my users can't use 2nd ip for their irc, > thats why i'm here asking this question and this is not a user related > problem, this is definatly not. I already tryed 3 different clients so this > is isn't software issue at least not irc client software OK, I've been watching this thread from afar, and this is just on the very tip of a flamewar because the people on this list have exhausted their ideas and because you're frustrated at not being able to solve your problem. So, let's recap a few points here: - You have helpfully supplied a large amount of information regarding your problem, and many of us have looked at it. Some people have offered suggestions and work-arounds. - You have tried the workarounds and much more besides but it's still not working. You've tried different IRC client software and it still has the same problem. - You've tried different IRC servers (which is in the domain of something we are likely to understand on this list), and it still doesn't work. - You maintain that FreeBSD must be b0rked because none of the suggested workaround work for you. This is a sensible suggestion, and perhaps with your particular hardware might be indeed true. - We maintain it's not, because we have very similar/identical configurations all over the world, and we know IP aliases work fine on our sites. We really can't think what is causing the hassles. - We know about running ISPs, but we're not au fait with the internals of the stack because we didn't write it, therefore, perhaps we're not the best people to ask when it comes to stack internals (which is where I think the problems may lie). So, in other words, because this is not a problem discussing third-party or FreeBSD software specifically from the point of view of an ISP server-side environment, we're a little at a loss as to what to suggest when it comes to what would appear to be a strange bug in the stack somewhere. However, I suspect the guys on -net will be able to work it out far quicker, and if you do find the solution, you might want to follow up to this thread and let us know (for those of us who don't track -net). So, let's not get into a huff about this - we're as frustrated that we don't know the answer as you are. However, on our kit it works, and on your kit it doesn't, so the stack hackers at -net will probably look forward to hearing from you. Apologies if I'm sending this "out of step" or stepping on people's toes, but I agree that I think it's about time we looked to wrap this one up over here on -isp, with the possible exception of alexus getting back to us to let us know what the fix was. -- Paul Robinson ,--------------------------------------- Technical Director @ Akita | A computer lets you make more mistakes PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | than any other invention with the T: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 (F:6389)| possible exceptions of handguns and | Tequila - Mitch Ratcliffe `----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 8:38:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.0.20] (unknown [63.218.21.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E224037B401 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:38:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@ihws.com) Received: from 192.168.0.102 by 192.168.0.20; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:38:05 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:38:05 -0400 Subject: Router w/o natd From: Frank Laszlo To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an ISP-type setup with a webserver behind a firewall. The firewall is running ipfw and natd. I only have 2 IP addresses I can use.(IP1 and IP2) Right now, when someone hits a website on IP1 it uses a port_redirect to redirect to the internal IP address on my webserver (192.168.0.20) But the problem is when someone hits a website it shows the IP address of the firewall's internal NIC in the log files. This is not good for statistical and security purposes. how can I get rid of natd but still have all my internal workstations have inet access, and still route specific ports to my web/mail/ftp servers. Thanks in advance.. Frank Laszlo, DAS Image House Studios 317 N. Pontiac Trail Walled Lake, MI 48390 Phone: 248.926.9019 Fax: 248.926.9018 Email: frank@ihws.com WWW: http://www.ihws.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 8:38:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.nexgen.com (db.nexgen.com [66.92.98.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A21137B403 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ml@db.nexgen.com) Received: (qmail 6541 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2001 15:38:13 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2001 15:38:13 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c12020$317e5610$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: "Paul Robinson" Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , "Marius Strom" , References: <017901c1201b$3e178860$0d00a8c0@alexus> <20010808163139.B29584@jake.akitanet.co.uk> Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:38:38 -0400 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I appreciate everyone who was trying to help me, i'm going try to post my question on different mailing lists thanks again, if someone would come up with any suggestions please send me an email:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Robinson" To: "alexus" Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Marius Strom" ; Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly > On Aug 8, alexus wrote: > > > I disagree, I'm a little ISP and my users can't use 2nd ip for their irc, > > thats why i'm here asking this question and this is not a user related > > problem, this is definatly not. I already tryed 3 different clients so this > > is isn't software issue at least not irc client software > > OK, I've been watching this thread from afar, and this is just on the very > tip of a flamewar because the people on this list have exhausted their ideas > and because you're frustrated at not being able to solve your problem. So, > let's recap a few points here: > > - You have helpfully supplied a large amount of information regarding your > problem, and many of us have looked at it. Some people have offered > suggestions and work-arounds. > > - You have tried the workarounds and much more besides but it's still not > working. You've tried different IRC client software and it still has the > same problem. > > - You've tried different IRC servers (which is in the domain of something we > are likely to understand on this list), and it still doesn't work. > > - You maintain that FreeBSD must be b0rked because none of the suggested > workaround work for you. This is a sensible suggestion, and perhaps with > your particular hardware might be indeed true. > > - We maintain it's not, because we have very similar/identical > configurations all over the world, and we know IP aliases work fine on our > sites. We really can't think what is causing the hassles. > > - We know about running ISPs, but we're not au fait with the internals of > the stack because we didn't write it, therefore, perhaps we're not the best > people to ask when it comes to stack internals (which is where I think the > problems may lie). > > So, in other words, because this is not a problem discussing third-party or > FreeBSD software specifically from the point of view of an ISP server-side > environment, we're a little at a loss as to what to suggest when it comes to > what would appear to be a strange bug in the stack somewhere. However, I > suspect the guys on -net will be able to work it out far quicker, and if you > do find the solution, you might want to follow up to this thread and let us > know (for those of us who don't track -net). > > So, let's not get into a huff about this - we're as frustrated that we don't > know the answer as you are. However, on our kit it works, and on your kit it > doesn't, so the stack hackers at -net will probably look forward to hearing > from you. > > Apologies if I'm sending this "out of step" or stepping on people's toes, > but I agree that I think it's about time we looked to wrap this one up over > here on -isp, with the possible exception of alexus getting back to us to > let us know what the fix was. > > -- > Paul Robinson ,--------------------------------------- > Technical Director @ Akita | A computer lets you make more mistakes > PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | than any other invention with the > T: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 (F:6389)| possible exceptions of handguns and > | Tequila - Mitch Ratcliffe > `----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 8 14:32:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from devserver (unknown [64.132.176.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7D237B412 for ; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@tipclub.com) Received: from mail pickup service by devserver with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:32:13 -0400 From: To: Subject: Welcome To Tipclub Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:32:13 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2001 21:32:13.0438 (UTC) FILETIME=[969CC1E0:01C12051] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have been referred to us to receive a Free Trial Membership to the first-ever online Tip Club. 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If I read it right, one mail server is saying yes we do AUTH using LOGIN etc......, the other is saying can I login with CRAM-MD5, sending user/pass and then receiving "Get Lost, I don't understand" 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: QUIT 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A0E SMTP AUTH failure: 0¤ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 500 5.7.0 authentication failed 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: c3RhZmYgOGNhZDhmZDA4NDkyMGNiNjY0ZWNhMzhiNTQ0ZjZiZTA= 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 334 PDk3MjA5NDcuNzQ5ODgzNUBuZXdjb2xvLmludmljdGFuZXQuY28udWs+ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: AUTH CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250 HELP 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-XUSR 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ETRN 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ONEX Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 4:25:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from newcolo.invictanet.co.uk (newcolo.invictanet.co.uk [62.232.63.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0FB37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@invictanet.co.uk) Received: from harryhome (invictanet.claranet.co.uk [213.253.17.74]) (authenticated) by newcolo.invictanet.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f79B4nX21865 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:04:49 +0100 (BST) From: "Martyn Routley" To: "Freebsd-ISP" Subject: SMTP Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:04:48 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anybody help with an idea as to what is wrong here? If I read it right, one mail server is saying yes we do AUTH using LOGIN etc......, the other is saying can I login with CRAM-MD5, sending user/pass and then receiving "Get Lost, I don't understand" 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: QUIT 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A0E SMTP AUTH failure: 0¤ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 500 5.7.0 authentication failed 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: c3RhZmYgOGNhZDhmZDA4NDkyMGNiNjY0ZWNhMzhiNTQ0ZjZiZTA= 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 334 PDk3MjA5NDcuNzQ5ODgzNUBuZXdjb2xvLmludmljdGFuZXQuY28udWs+ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: AUTH CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250 HELP 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-XUSR 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ETRN 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ONEX Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 5: 6:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20106.mail.yahoo.com (web20106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 182FB37B406 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freefabri@yahoo.it) Message-ID: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.161] by web20106.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 14:06:15 CEST Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:06:15 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: SMTP very very slow! To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, just for a test I've installed FreeBSD 4.3 on an old 486 in order to study the way to build a mail server. I've installed Q-mail, tested the smtp telnetting in the port 25 and also sending mails with my other machine running Linux in the same Lan and I observed that the mail server was very fast, all worked well. So I decided to install vpopmail, courier-imap,sqwebmail and qmailadmin on Apache. After the installation all the services worked well. The problem is that sending mail for example with netscape or pine on the Linux box the smtp of my server was very slow. I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes and then answered and all worked ok. This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the FreeBSD machine I have to wait several minutes to get an answer, but after that all works well. The other services,like sqwebmail,Imap, telnet ftp they works very fast and the response is immediate. So why the pop3 & smtp are so slow? I checked the coaxial cable and the sk ethernet but they are ok. This is my small Lan: Linux Box FreeBSD Mailserver OpenBSD (Client) Qmail,vpopmail... Gateway/NAT []------------[]-----------------------[]-->Internet 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.1 Can someone help me? Many thanks in advance Fabrizio ______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 5:32: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888EC37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enriko.groen@netivity.nl) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:32:01 +0200 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A126@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: 'Fabrizio Ravazzini' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SMTP very very slow! Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:31:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabrizio Ravazzini [mailto:freefabri@yahoo.it] > Sent: Thursday, 09 August 2001 14:06 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: SMTP very very slow! > > server was very slow. > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes and > then answered and all worked ok. > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the FreeBSD > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > answer, but after that all works well. > The other services,like sqwebmail,Imap, telnet ftp > they works very fast and the response is immediate. > So why the pop3 & smtp are so slow? Maybe something with DNS/resolving?! However that would be strange is all other services are fast enough... -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen@netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle -------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 5:39:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-38.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57ADB37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f79CcaZ31254; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:38:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 08:38:35 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Fabrizio Ravazzini Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! Message-ID: <20010809083835.C30948@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com>; from freefabri@yahoo.it on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:06:15PM +0200 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:06:15PM +0200, Fabrizio Ravazzini thus sprach: > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes and > then answered and all worked ok. > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the FreeBSD > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > answer, but after that all works well. Slow ftp/telnet/xxx seems to be one of the most frequently asked questions on any Unix related group I've seen and it all boils down to three letters DNS. The far side agents try to authenticate the name by looking up from the IP they get. If there is no reverse mapping - it can take well over a minute to search all their namesevers for a possible match - then it will 1) let you login or 2) reject you completely - and a great many sites will reject you if you can be authenticated. You can control the DNS for your machines. Make sure everthing is correct AND that whereever you get service from is properly reversing your names. If not change providers - like I had to. -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 5:51: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from spider.suxx.eu.org (spider.suxx.eu.org [194.249.141.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BA837B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 05:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddave@suxx.eu.org) Received: by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 55C6A17751; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spider.suxx.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E3432B9E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:53:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:53:39 +0200 (CEST) From: David Delibasic To: Subject: Raid Message-ID: <20010809144924.I49547-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I have few questions regarding RAID5 with vinum. 1.) Lets say that i have three 30GB SCSI disks in raid array. If one of disks fail, will vinum be able to get data for this disk (from other two disks) on the fly ? 2.) When i replace the disk that failed what command should i issue for vinum to rebuild data to the new disk ? Thanks for answers Best Regards, D. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 6: 4:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD0A37B406 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:04:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enriko.groen@netivity.nl) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:04:51 +0200 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A128@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: 'David Delibasic' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Raid Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:04:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: David Delibasic [mailto:maddave@suxx.eu.org] > Sent: Thursday, 09 August 2001 14:54 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Raid > I have few questions regarding RAID5 with vinum. > > 1.) Lets say that i have three 30GB SCSI disks in raid array. > If one of > disks fail, will vinum be able to get data for this disk > (from other two > disks) on the fly ? Yes... That's RAID... at least if you have it configured for redundancy. > 2.) When i replace the disk that failed what command should i > issue for > vinum to rebuild data to the new disk ? Issuing a simple 'start' should be sufficient... This will revive the disk in the background -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen@netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle -------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 6: 9: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FEAE37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freefabri@yahoo.it) Message-ID: <20010809130902.66148.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.161] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:09:02 CEST Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:09:02 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010809083835.C30948@wjv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll better check the names resolving, I put the names of the 3 machines in /etc/hosts and the default route is the gateway OpenBSD connected to Internet with ppp. But why are the other services such as telnet,ftp,imap,webmail so fast? -- Bill Vermillion ha scritto: > On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:06:15PM +0200, Fabrizio > Ravazzini thus sprach: > > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD > box > > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes > and > > then answered and all worked ok. > > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the > FreeBSD > > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > > answer, but after that all works well. > > Slow ftp/telnet/xxx seems to be one of the most > frequently asked > questions on any Unix related group I've seen and it > all boils > down to three letters DNS. > > The far side agents try to authenticate the name by > looking up from > the IP they get. If there is no reverse mapping - > it can take well > over a minute to search all their namesevers for a > possible match - > then it will 1) let you login or 2) reject you > completely - and a > great many sites will reject you if you can be > authenticated. > > You can control the DNS for your machines. Make > sure everthing is > correct AND that whereever you get service from is > properly > reversing your names. If not change providers - > like I had to. > > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com ______________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 6:15:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.rccn.net (atlas.rccn.net [193.136.7.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05AF837B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpsp@fccn.pt) Received: (qmail 27435 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 13:15:48 -0000 Received: from dhcp20.fccn.pt (HELO jpsp2) (193.136.7.220) by atlas.rccn.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 13:15:48 -0000 Message-ID: <07b901c120d5$5a19d5d0$dc0788c1@jpsp2> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Pagaime?= To: "Fabrizio Ravazzini" , References: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:15:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would try to check if inetd is trying to use the "ident" service or if there's a reverse DNS lookup somewhere --jp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabrizio Ravazzini" To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: SMTP very very slow! > Hello all, just for a test I've installed FreeBSD 4.3 > on an old 486 in order to study the way to build a > mail server. > I've installed Q-mail, tested the smtp telnetting in > the port 25 and also sending mails with my other > machine running Linux in the same Lan and I observed > that the mail server was very fast, all worked well. > So I decided to install vpopmail, > courier-imap,sqwebmail and qmailadmin on Apache. > After the installation all the services worked well. > The problem is that sending mail for example with > netscape or pine on the Linux box the smtp of my > server was very slow. > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes and > then answered and all worked ok. > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the FreeBSD > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > answer, but after that all works well. > The other services,like sqwebmail,Imap, telnet ftp > they works very fast and the response is immediate. > So why the pop3 & smtp are so slow? > I checked the coaxial cable and the sk ethernet but > they are ok. > This is my small Lan: > > Linux Box FreeBSD Mailserver OpenBSD > (Client) Qmail,vpopmail... Gateway/NAT > []------------[]-----------------------[]-->Internet > 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.1 > > > Can someone help me? > > Many thanks in advance > Fabrizio > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 6:57: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.shells.co.uk (phoenix.shells.co.uk [217.33.11.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619ED37B406 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 06:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jk@dac.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phoenix.shells.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6312638D4 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:56:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 14:56:40 +0100 (BST) From: Darkcyde X-Sender: jk@phoenix.shells.co.uk To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly [read, heed, and hopefully kill this thread] In-Reply-To: <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Marius Strom wrote: > Can this thread be clobbered until we get some realistic troubleshooting > information here? I think 99.9% of people on this list do agree that > ethernet address aliasing does work on FreeBSD, and let's leave it at > that. I saw this thread appear and die a couple of months back but didn't jump in as I thought alexus had managed to sort his stuff out, yet it's getting painful now. Personally running several boxes with single NICs w/ multiple IPs it's frustrating to see this thread go on and on.. We all know it works, heh. Binding to aliased interfaces is also a non-issue and has been working in various ircii and derived source trees for moons, just the syntax for using them is a little different. (some use environment variables such as IRCHOST and/or command line switches..) bleh I think the obvious answer is that FreeBSD is /NOT/ broken and neither are the clients. As for proving it.. A simple bit of netcat [/usr/ports/net/netcat] will prove out the client as either being broken or working. ie; on some random box, nc -vlp 6667.. leave running in another terminal/whatever on the box with the "problem" - BitchX -H 1.2.3.4 nick otherbox.com [note that I'm fairly sure that if you specify a hostname with BitchX and the dns lookup fails, it will fallback to the default interface as opposed to not connecting at all. Try with the IP first, if that works then check your forward dns..] Anyway, sit back after smacking return on the client box and observe the originating IP address seen on stderr on the listening netcat. If it's coming from the default interface then there may be a problem with the aliased address. I've seen all sorts of "try this netmask, try that netmask". I'm sure most people will agree that the way of doing things usually is simply with an all-255's netmask in an ifconfig_de0_alias0=... type entry. If you want to do this on the fly; ifconfig de0 inet 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.255 alias up Should do the trick. (Please hold fire on the deprecated 'up', I'm being lazy..) Also, I would traceroute/ping your aliased addresses from outside the network some and make sure that you can actually reach them from elsewhere, otherwise this entire exercise has been pointless throughout.. HTH and all that bidniz. Regards, J. -- Darkcyde (jk@dac.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 7:20:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (dhcp-1-174.n01.orldfl01.us.ra.verio.net [157.238.210.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720AE37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f79EK2831955; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:20:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bill) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:20:02 -0400 From: Bill Vermillion To: Fabrizio Ravazzini Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! Message-ID: <20010809102002.D31639@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <20010809083835.C30948@wjv.com> <20010809130902.66148.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010809130902.66148.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com>; from freefabri@yahoo.it on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0200 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0200, Fabrizio Ravazzini thus sprach: > I'll better check the names resolving, I put the names > of the 3 machines in /etc/hosts and the default route > is the gateway OpenBSD connected to Internet with ppp. > But why are the other services such as > telnet,ftp,imap,webmail so fast? Hey -that's not what you said. > > > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box but the > > > daemon hanged me there for several minutes and then answered > > > and all worked ok. Telnet and ftp will use the reverse IP. The others don't. Ftp and telnet will be slow, and services such as sendmail can be slow. And if you are trying to get to a machine that is NOT on your network the DNS >>THE FAR MACHINE<< uses must be able to reverse your IP's. I used to do work on a remote system and the provider I was using did not do reverse on their IPs, so I put both banks of IPs my provider used in my area [512 IPS] into the /etc/hosts on the far machine, and I connected almost instantly. > > -- Bill Vermillion ha scritto: > On > Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:06:15PM +0200, Fabrizio > > Ravazzini thus sprach: > > > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD > > box > > > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes > > and > > > then answered and all worked ok. > > > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the > > FreeBSD > > > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > > > answer, but after that all works well. > > > > Slow ftp/telnet/xxx seems to be one of the most > > frequently asked > > questions on any Unix related group I've seen and it > > all boils > > down to three letters DNS. > > > > The far side agents try to authenticate the name by > > looking up from > > the IP they get. If there is no reverse mapping - > > it can take well > > over a minute to search all their namesevers for a > > possible match - > > then it will 1) let you login or 2) reject you > > completely - and a > > great many sites will reject you if you can be > > authenticated. > > > > You can control the DNS for your machines. Make > > sure everthing is > > correct AND that whereever you get service from is > > properly > > reversing your names. If not change providers - > > like I had to. > > > > -- > > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 7:30:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jake.akitanet.co.uk (jake.akitanet.co.uk [212.1.130.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FD337B403 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wiggy@wopr.akitanet.co.uk) Received: from dsl-212-135-208-201.dsl.easynet.co.uk ([212.135.208.201] helo=wopr.akitanet.co.uk) by jake.akitanet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 15UqpS-000OP3-00; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:30:30 +0100 Received: from wiggy by wopr.akitanet.co.uk with local (Exim 3.21 #2) id 15Uqul-0007DR-00; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:35:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:35:59 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Darkcyde Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (OT) Re: another ip as alias on NIC doesn't work properly [read, heed, and hopefully kill this thread] Message-ID: <20010809153558.B14182@jake.akitanet.co.uk> References: <20010807184317.Q1013@marius.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from jk@dac.org on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:56:40PM +0100 X-Scanner: exiscan *15UqpS-000OP3-00*$AK$76UBx62Cw/ZurWqe3JHvh0* Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Aug 9, Darkcyde wrote: Well, well, DC... you get everywhere, don't you? I actually thought that by now you would in a field in the middle of Holland talking to lots of tree-hugging 'cyber-activists' or something. :-) > I saw this thread appear and die a couple of months back but didn't jump in as > I thought alexus had managed to sort his stuff out, yet it's getting painful > now. Agreed, I still maintain that -net or -questions will be able to answer this better than we can. We're just ISP admins. Like, what do we know? (Apart from how to kick tape drives really hard). > Also, I would traceroute/ping your aliased addresses from outside the network > some and make sure that you can actually reach them from elsewhere, otherwise > this entire exercise has been pointless throughout.. You know, I don't actually recall anybody suggesting that first. Perhaps an idea. Hmph. I feel like an idiot now. Anyway, I'm just going to point out the re-cap I posted yesterday, and the fact that alexus has hopefully temporarily disappeared over to -net and -questions. Hopefully the last message we should see on this thread (apart from this one) will be alexus' solution. Bit of a cliff-hanger this one, innit? And people say Eastender's is tense.... :-) -- Paul Robinson ,--------------------------------------- Technical Director @ Akita | A computer lets you make more mistakes PO Box 604, Manchester, M60 3PR | than any other invention with the T: +44 (0) 161 228 6388 (F:6389)| possible exceptions of handguns and | Tequila - Mitch Ratcliffe `----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 17:39:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.datafast.net.au (mailhub.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B3A4E37B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 17:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from corey.ralph@datafast.net.au) Received: (qmail 26004 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 00:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO corey.datafast.net.au) (203.123.67.125) by mailhub.datafast.net.au with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 00:39:20 -0000 Received: from corey by corey.datafast.net.au with local (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15V0Kc-00025u-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:39:18 +1000 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:39:18 +1000 From: Corey Ralph To: Fabrizio Ravazzini Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! Message-ID: <20010810103918.A7971@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you starting qmail-smtpd from inetd or tcpserver? If tcpserver, you can use the -H flag to disable looking up the host name, and -R to disable the ident lookup. Alternately, make sure that you aren't blocking the ident lookup with a firewall. It is 113/udp. Cheers On 09/08/01 14:06 +0200, Fabrizio Ravazzini wrote: > Hello all, just for a test I've installed FreeBSD 4.3 > on an old 486 in order to study the way to build a > mail server. > I've installed Q-mail, tested the smtp telnetting in > the port 25 and also sending mails with my other > machine running Linux in the same Lan and I observed > that the mail server was very fast, all worked well. > So I decided to install vpopmail, > courier-imap,sqwebmail and qmailadmin on Apache. > After the installation all the services worked well. > The problem is that sending mail for example with > netscape or pine on the Linux box the smtp of my > server was very slow. > I tried to telnet on the port 25 of the FreeBSD box > but the daemon hanged me there for several minutes and > then answered and all worked ok. > This also for the pop3, when I try to poll the FreeBSD > machine I have to wait several minutes to get an > answer, but after that all works well. > The other services,like sqwebmail,Imap, telnet ftp > they works very fast and the response is immediate. > So why the pop3 & smtp are so slow? > I checked the coaxial cable and the sk ethernet but > they are ok. > This is my small Lan: > > Linux Box FreeBSD Mailserver OpenBSD > (Client) Qmail,vpopmail... Gateway/NAT > []------------[]-----------------------[]-->Internet > 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 192.168.0.1 > > > Can someone help me? > > Many thanks in advance > Fabrizio > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Corey Ralph corey.ralph@datafast.net.au System Administrator +61 3 5278 3955 Datafast Telecommunications ------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 18:33:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from peppermint.national.com.au (peppermint.national.com.au [203.57.240.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C610637B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 18:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nconedd@webjump.national.com.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by peppermint.national.com.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id LAA25625; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:33:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from UNKNOWN(164.53.27.38), claiming to be "webjump.national.com.au" via SMTP by peppermint, id smtpdAAAysaOaY; Fri Aug 10 11:33:04 2001 Received: (from nconedd@localhost) by webjump.national.com.au (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id f7A1XCZ03166; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:33:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:33:12 +1000 From: Enno Davids To: Corey Ralph Cc: Fabrizio Ravazzini , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMTP very very slow! Message-ID: <20010810113312.G1649@webjump.national.com.au> References: <20010809120615.73455.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> <20010810103918.A7971@corey.datafast.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010810103918.A7971@corey.datafast.net.au>; from corey.ralph@datafast.net.au on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 10:39:18AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 10:39:18AM +1000, Corey Ralph wrote: > Alternately, make sure that you aren't blocking the ident lookup with a > firewall. It is 113/udp. Another alternative is to block ident with a return-rst in ipf so that the client attempting to use it doesn't have to perform a timeout waiting for an answer to a dropped packet. This way it gets an immediate connection reset and continues on. Enno. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 19:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2E937B401 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 19:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by chat.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:19:56 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A908F74F@chat.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPP and RADIUS Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:19:54 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to setup a PPPoE server using FreeBSD 4.3. So far, I already have the PPPoE daemon up and running, requests from PPPoE clients gets through, executes "/usr/sbin/ppp -direct ", queries the RADIUS server, etc. My problem lies in negotiating for the IP address. My upstream ISP's RADIUS server sends a reply of 255.255.255.254 and this is assigned to the dialing-in client when I already have a "set ifaddr" set in ppp.conf. Turning on the logs reveals: ppp[3196]: Debug: m_enqueue: len = 1 irc ppp[3196]: Debug: Add 202.91.162.20 -> 255.255.255.254 ppp[3196]: IPCP: Using trigger address 255.255.255.254 ppp[3196]: Warning: OpenSecret: Can't open /etc/ppp/ppp.sec ppp[3196]: IPCP: Using trigger address 255.255.255.254 . . . irc ppp[3196]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 255.255.255.254 How can I override my ISP's RADIUS reply? Here's my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf pppoe-in: allow users enable pap allow mode direct set mru 1460 set mtu 1460 set speed sync enable lqr accept dns set ifaddr 202.91.162.20 202.91.162.21-202.91.162.30 set dns 202.91.161.130 202.47.132.1 load server set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf set log phase ipcp lcp debug --- francis vidal [bitstop network services] streaming media + web services v(02)330-2872,(02)330-2873 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 21:38:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E75637B444 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 462E06ACC1; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:08:48 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:08:48 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: David Delibasic Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raid Message-ID: <20010810140847.B37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010809144924.I49547-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010809144924.I49547-100000@spider.suxx.eu.org>; from maddave@suxx.eu.org on Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 02:53:39PM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 9 August 2001 at 14:53:39 +0200, David Delibasic wrote: > Hello > > I have few questions regarding RAID5 with vinum. > > 1.) Lets say that i have three 30GB SCSI disks in raid array. If one of > disks fail, will vinum be able to get data for this disk (from other two > disks) on the fly ? That depends on the configuration. With RAID-5, yes. With RAID-1, maybe. With RAID-0, no. > 2.) When i replace the disk that failed what command should i issue for > vinum to rebuild data to the new disk ? start, with the appropriate parameters. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 9 23:28: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B721737B405 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 21676 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Aug 2001 06:27:56 +0000 (GMT) To: grog@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raid From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:08:48 +0930" References: <20010810140847.B37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:27:56 +0200 Message-ID: <21674.997424876@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > 1.) Lets say that i have three 30GB SCSI disks in raid array. If one of > > disks fail, will vinum be able to get data for this disk (from other two > > disks) on the fly ? > > That depends on the configuration. With RAID-5, yes. With RAID-1, > maybe. With RAID-0, no. Why the maybe for RAID-1? Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 0: 5:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.morning.ru (ns.morning.ru [195.161.98.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC1437B405 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:05:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from poige@morning.ru) Received: from NIC1 ([195.161.98.236]) by ns.morning.ru (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f7A75sE83647; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:05:54 +0800 (KRAST) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:09 +0800 From: Igor Podlesny X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.52 Beta/7) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Organization: Morning Network X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17919812078.20010810150609@morning.ru> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: which 7200 rpm HDD to choose? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! Sorry a lot for an off-topic a bit, but, imho, it's a question certainly of wide interests to the ISP-related staff: which 7200 rpm HDD you consider really reliable? I heard about problems with IBM's 7200 although by myself I trusted in this trademark. So, I'll be grateful for any opinions, practice results, advices and so on... thank you in advance! -- Best regards, Igor mailto:poige@morning.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 0:13:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589537B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6685D6ACDE; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:44:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:44:08 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Raid Message-ID: <20010810164408.G37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010810140847.B37968@wantadilla.lemis.com> <21674.997424876@verdi.nethelp.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <21674.997424876@verdi.nethelp.no>; from sthaug@nethelp.no on Fri, Aug 10, 2001 at 08:27:56AM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 10 August 2001 at 8:27:56 +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >>> 1.) Lets say that i have three 30GB SCSI disks in raid array. If one of >>> disks fail, will vinum be able to get data for this disk (from other two >>> disks) on the fly ? >> >> That depends on the configuration. With RAID-5, yes. With RAID-1, >> maybe. With RAID-0, no. > > Why the maybe for RAID-1? Depends how you organize it. Usually yes, but it's possible to do it wrong. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 18:22:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.amplex.net (mailsrv.amplex.net [209.57.124.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F63437B406 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) Received: from mark2000 (amplex-mark.amplex.net [209.57.124.58]) (authenticated) by mailsrv.amplex.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7B1LI569740 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Radabaugh - Amplex" To: Subject: RE: SMTP Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:22:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yep - that's what is happening. So which end is yours? You can check what the smtp server is offering by logging in with EHLO and then checking the response. You have to specify on the server what AUTH schemes you want to enable. Mark -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Martyn Routley Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:05 AM To: Freebsd-ISP Subject: SMTP Can anybody help with an idea as to what is wrong here? If I read it right, one mail server is saying yes we do AUTH using LOGIN etc......, the other is saying can I login with CRAM-MD5, sending user/pass and then receiving "Get Lost, I don't understand" 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: QUIT 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A0E SMTP AUTH failure: 0¤ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 500 5.7.0 authentication failed 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: c3RhZmYgOGNhZDhmZDA4NDkyMGNiNjY0ZWNhMzhiNTQ0ZjZiZTA= 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 334 PDk3MjA5NDcuNzQ5ODgzNUBuZXdjb2xvLmludmljdGFuZXQuY28udWs+ 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A06 SMTPTX: AUTH CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250 HELP 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-XUSR 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ETRN 2001/08/09 11:55:20 00000768 0A05 SMTPRX: 250-ONEX Martyn Routley ----------------------------------------------------- InvictaNet - The Internet in Plain English, Guaranteed http://www.invictanet.co.uk info@invictanet.co.uk phone: 08707 440180 fax: 08707 440181 ------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 18:31:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093C37B403 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by chat.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:30:45 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A908F757@chat.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPPoE server + RADIUS Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:30:45 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, We're currently experimenting with PPPoE on a FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE system with a Windows 98 client using RASPPPOE. I've found some instructions on the web on how to setup the PPPoE server and so far I've managed to make it run. We are using the RADIUS server of our upstream ISP for authenticating clients. Here's a copy of my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: pppoe-in: allow users enable pap allow mode direct set mru 1460 set mtu 1460 set speed sync enable lqr accept dns set ifaddr 202.91.163.1 202.91.163.20-202.91.163.50 set dns 202.91.161.130 202.47.132.1 load server set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf set log phase ipcp lcp debug Their RADIUS server sends a reply for Framed-IP-Address: 255.255.255.254 and Framed-IP-Netmask: 255.255.255.0 But upon inspection of the client, it shows that it got the 255.255.255.254 address instead of the IP address pool as defined in ppp.conf. What else could be wrong here? Where should I look? Thanks! --- francis vidal [bitstop network services] streaming media + web services v(02)330-2872,(02)330-2873 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 18:34:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.dagupan.com (www.psysc.org.ph [206.101.69.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5585337B405 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by chat.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:34:17 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A908F758@chat.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: brian@Awfulhak.org Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PPPoE server setup + RADIUS Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:34:17 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi all, > > > > We're currently experimenting with PPPoE on a FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE system > with > > a Windows 98 client using RASPPPOE. I've found some instructions on the > web > > on how to setup the PPPoE server and so far I've managed to make it run. > > > > We are using the RADIUS server of our upstream ISP for authenticating > > clients. Here's a copy of my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: > > > > pppoe-in: > > allow users > > enable pap > > allow mode direct > > set mru 1460 > > set mtu 1460 > > set speed sync > > enable lqr > > accept dns > > set ifaddr 202.91.163.1 202.91.163.20-202.91.163.50 > > set dns 202.91.161.130 202.47.132.1 > > load server > > set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf > > set log phase ipcp lcp debug > > > > Their RADIUS server sends a reply for Framed-IP-Address: 255.255.255.254 > and > > Framed-IP-Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > > > But upon inspection of the client, it shows that it got the > 255.255.255.254 > > address instead of the IP address pool as defined in ppp.conf. What else > > could be wrong here? Where should I look? Thanks! > > ppp will choose the RAD_FRAMED_IP_ADDRESS returned from the radius > server above any IP number mentioned in ppp.conf or ppp.secret. > > 255.255.255.254 is a mighty odd IP number - but I'm sure you already > know that :*) I wonder why your ISP's radius server is sending this ? Isn't it in RFC 2138? Framed-IP-Address Address The Address field is four octets. The value 0xFFFFFFFF indicates that the NAS should allow the user to select an address (e.g. Negotiated). The value 0xFFFFFFFE indicates that the NAS should select an address for the user (e.g. Assigned from a pool of addresses kept by the NAS). Other valid values indicate that the NAS should use that value as the user's IP address. What do you normally put there? As a standard practice, I mean. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 10 19:41: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656837B401 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:40:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15VOMr-0001TK-00; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:19:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:19:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE server + RADIUS In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A908F757@chat.dagupan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 francisv@dagupan.com wrote: > Their RADIUS server sends a reply for Framed-IP-Address: 255.255.255.254 and > Framed-IP-Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > But upon inspection of the client, it shows that it got the 255.255.255.254 > address instead of the IP address pool as defined in ppp.conf. What else I don't think ppp supports managment of address pools. You can specify IP ranges, but that doesn't make it a pool. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 11 2:55:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (gw.Awfulhak.org [217.204.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBD537B409 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 02:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7B9tO542475; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:55:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7B9tOr31726; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:55:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200108110955.f7B9tOr31726@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: francisv@dagupan.com Cc: brian@Awfulhak.org, isp@freebsd.org, brian@freebsd-services.com Subject: Re: PPPoE server setup + RADIUS In-Reply-To: Message from francisv@dagupan.com of "Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:34:17 +0800." <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A908F758@chat.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:55:24 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We're currently experimenting with PPPoE on a FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE system > > with > > > a Windows 98 client using RASPPPOE. I've found some instructions on the > > web > > > on how to setup the PPPoE server and so far I've managed to make it run. > > > > > > We are using the RADIUS server of our upstream ISP for authenticating > > > clients. Here's a copy of my /etc/ppp/ppp.conf: > > > > > > pppoe-in: > > > allow users > > > enable pap > > > allow mode direct > > > set mru 1460 > > > set mtu 1460 > > > set speed sync > > > enable lqr > > > accept dns > > > set ifaddr 202.91.163.1 202.91.163.20-202.91.163.50 > > > set dns 202.91.161.130 202.47.132.1 > > > load server > > > set radius /etc/ppp/radius.conf > > > set log phase ipcp lcp debug > > > > > > Their RADIUS server sends a reply for Framed-IP-Address: 255.255.255.254 > > and > > > Framed-IP-Netmask: 255.255.255.0 > > > > > > But upon inspection of the client, it shows that it got the > > 255.255.255.254 > > > address instead of the IP address pool as defined in ppp.conf. What else > > > could be wrong here? Where should I look? Thanks! > > > > ppp will choose the RAD_FRAMED_IP_ADDRESS returned from the radius > > server above any IP number mentioned in ppp.conf or ppp.secret. > > > > 255.255.255.254 is a mighty odd IP number - but I'm sure you already > > know that :*) I wonder why your ISP's radius server is sending this ? > > Isn't it in RFC 2138? > > Framed-IP-Address > > Address > > The Address field is four octets. The value 0xFFFFFFFF indicates > that the NAS should allow the user to select an address (e.g. > Negotiated). The value 0xFFFFFFFE indicates that the NAS should > select an address for the user (e.g. Assigned from a pool of > addresses kept by the NAS). Other valid values indicate that the > NAS should use that value as the user's IP address. Ah, ok, does the attached patch help ? > What do you normally put there? As a standard practice, I mean. Nothing at all (so that the radius server doesn't return a framed ip address), but I don't generally use radius.... -- Brian http://www.freebsd-services.com/ Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! Index: radius.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/ppp/radius.c,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 radius.c --- radius.c 2001/04/01 22:39:17 1.22 +++ radius.c 2001/08/11 09:53:30 @@ -158,6 +158,8 @@ switch (got) { case RAD_FRAMED_IP_ADDRESS: r->ip = rad_cvt_addr(data); + if (ntohl(r->ip.s_addr) == 0xfffffffe) + r->ip.s_addr = INADDR_NONE; log_Printf(LogPHASE, " IP %s\n", inet_ntoa(r->ip)); break; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message