From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 28 2:38:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from milkyway.org (a98210.ntown.com [208.245.98.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D9437B402 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rigel.milkyway.org (rigel.milkyway.org [205.241.194.19]) by milkyway.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA78438 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:41:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toby@milkyway.org) Received: by rigel.milkyway.org with Microsoft Mail id <01C088EC.5A2E0A40@rigel.milkyway.org>; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01C088EC.5A2E0A40@rigel.milkyway.org> From: Toby Swanson To: "'newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: RE: unmounting cd rom Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 05:37:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Bruce D. Harding [SMTP:bdh@inspire.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:36 AM Mike wrote: > Rick, > > I think you're carrying "the letter of the law" a little too > extensively. Questions is great for technical questions and help on > problems. > I'd have to agree with mike here as well. Sending a message to questions saying "How do I eject my CDROM " I doubt would give you many replies. That's probably because if you search the mailing list archive for "eject" and "cdrom" you'll find plenty of references to the cdcontrol command (man cdcontrol for more info). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 29 5:41:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.integration.qc.ca (webmail.integration.qc.ca [204.19.171.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D8F37B69C for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by webmail.integration.qc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:40:48 -0500 Message-ID: <6106CF4DFB2BD411BA330050BAD4700416D105@webmail.integration.qc.ca> From: Jonathan Primeau To: "'freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:40:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth c87aa00a unsubscribe freebsd-newbies jonathan@integration.qc.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 29 9:25:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1.renley.com (unknown [210.176.231.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A93337B402; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from 210.176.231.28 (unverified [203.149.188.102]) by web1.renley.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.2) with SMTP id ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:33:35 +0800 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 01:33:35 +0800 Message-ID: Reply-To: j233860800@yahoo.com From: j233860800@yahoo.com To: bin@freebsd.org Subject:狂人資訊軟體更新資訊 本次新增一百三十多片...狂人資訊軟體更新資訊 本次新增一百三十多片狂人資訊軟體更新資訊 本次新增一百三十多片.. 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Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jgalicia@localhost) by tejon.ittux.edu.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA52012 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:47:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jgalicia@tejon.ittux.edu.mx) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:47:46 -0600 (CST) From: Julio Galicia To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Web editor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone could recommend me a fine web editor ?? Thanx Regards from Mexico Julio Galicia I. T. Tuxtepec To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jan 29 17: 2:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1103.mail.yahoo.com (web1103.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E774737B402 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 20751 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2001 01:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010130010201.20750.qmail@web1103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.200.148.220] by web1103.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:02:01 PST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Erlin Subject: Re: Web editor To: Julio Galicia , newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org any text editor or http://bluefish.openoffice.nl I'm sure there are many others. --Tim --- Julio Galicia wrote: > Someone could recommend me a fine web editor ?? > > Thanx > > Regards from Mexico > > Julio Galicia > I. T. Tuxtepec > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 30 8:25:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A2E37B491 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:25:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from d97.ofc.mbo.ma.rcn.net ([146.115.18.97] helo=wsdelleymzp) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14Ndag-0006dh-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:25:10 -0500 Message-ID: <03c601c08ad9$35f440b0$61127392@mbo.ma.corp.rcn.net> From: "Chris Cannon" To: Subject: ping -s Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:25:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I would like to have ping -s available for everyone's use on my system. Here is how it is currently setup: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root bin 195812 Nov 20 07:01 /sbin/ping Yet, I get this message when trying to use it: ping: -s flag: Operation not permitted Could anyone help me out please? -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 30 17:17:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tejon.ittux.edu.mx (unknown [200.23.246.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4EC37B6AD for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jgalicia@localhost) by tejon.ittux.edu.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA60235 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:18:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jgalicia@tejon.ittux.edu.mx) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:18:29 -0600 (CST) From: Julio Galicia To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: tar.gz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've got a xxx.tar.gz. How do i install this program? i need use pkg_add or uncompress it and do "make"? thanks in advance. Julio Galicia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 30 18:45:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from picusnet.com (mail.picusnet.com [207.7.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3996437B699 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain [207.7.89.212] by picusnet.com (SMTPD32-6.05) id AC4921000C8; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:45:29 -0500 From: Chip Rose. Reply-To: chiprose@excite.com To: newbies@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:48:00 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01013021480803.01264@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jan 30 20:38:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bfm.org (mail.bfm.org [216.127.218.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B837B698 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from WhizKid (r1.bfm.org [216.127.220.97]) by mail.bfm.org (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52399U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id org; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:40:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010130222729.009c77a0@mail85.pair.com> X-Sender: whizkid@mail85.pair.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:27:29 -0600 To: Julio Galicia , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Re: tar.gz In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 19:18 30-01-2001 -0600, Julio Galicia wrote: >i've got a xxx.tar.gz. How do i install this program? > >i need use pkg_add or uncompress it and do "make"? It's not a program, it's a compressed archive (similar to a .zip file under DOS). There is no one way to tell what to do with it. For example, it can be dowloaded, uncompressed, and dearchived by a make file (as in the ports collection). Or you need to do it manually. See "man gzip" on how to uncompress it, then "man tar" how to extract files from the archive. Adam --- Whiz Kid Technomagic - brand name computers for less. See http://www.whizkidtech.net/pcwarehouse/ for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 31 7: 7:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web1005.mail.yahoo.com (web1005.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E49B37B65D for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:07:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17538 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2001 15:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: <20010131150703.17536.qmail@web1005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.122.13] by web1005.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:07:03 PST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:07:03 -0800 (PST) From: Webmaster Reply-To: freexxxgold.webmaster@bigfoot.com Subject: Re: tar.gz To: newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To uncompress and make a "standard" .tar.gz file use: tar -zxvf This will untar and unzip it in one operation. It will probably create it's own directory structure when you do this. Then: cd ./configure (maybe check your README file) make make install (maybe check your README file) that should do it. That's a standard Unix/linux software installation process -- your mileage may vary. I'm not totally familiar with the FreeBSD package manager, so there may be another way. . . --- Julio Galicia wrote: > i've got a xxx.tar.gz. How do i install this > program? > > i need use pkg_add or uncompress it and do "make"? > > thanks in advance. > > Julio Galicia > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 31 12:21:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web6101.mail.yahoo.com (web6101.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47D7737B4EC for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:21:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010131202133.22556.qmail@web6101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.248.59.73] by web6101.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:21:33 PST Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: Christian L Subject: Modem and Ethernet configuration...help! To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! well i just installed FreeBSD 4.2, but there are some problems that i havent been able to work out.. MY modem is a Cirrus Logic internal ISA, i dont know how to enable it, because when i type pnpinfo it shows the brand of my modem the vendor etc...but how do i enable it? its says a range of IRQ's and memory addresses but i dont know hwere to configure it, ..and well the other problem is..i have a CNET fast ethernt card pro 200B, mmm how do i configure it? by the way when i try to start X, theres an error about a font not find, before that i di that mkfonts command or something like that but it still doesnt work..i hope you can help me...thanks! Christian __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 31 18:25:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.tx.home.com (ha1.rdc2.tx.home.com [24.14.77.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8A937B503; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.179.82.202]) by mail.rdc2.tx.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010201022523.DYG26394.mail.rdc2.tx.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:25:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3A78C8AF.D94A5CAA@home.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:23:43 -0600 From: sound byte X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: is there something wrong with my keyboard? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.1 on a new eMachines computer I bought. I am trying to have it co-exist with WindowsME. Everything goes fine, i get the partitioning done correctly, I get freebsd to install a boot manager etc. Then I reboot and get to the screen where i have to choose as follows: F1 Dos F2 Freebsd Default F1 I press F2 and nothing happens; I press enter and windows loads up; i press F1 and wondows loads up!!! should i install some other boot manger? or is there something i'm doing wrong? Thanks! Imran Ismail MS Operations Research Graduate Research Assistant School of Engineering Southern Methodist University PO Box 750122 Dallas, TX 75275-0122 Ph: 214-768-1404 http://www.seas.smu.edu/~imran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jan 31 22:33:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (unknown [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7674937B67D; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1009) id BD9AD58A; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:33:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:33:15 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: sound byte Cc: questions@freebsd.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there something wrong with my keyboard? Message-ID: <20010201003315.B7019@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , sound byte , questions@freebsd.org, newbies@freebsd.org References: <3A78C8AF.D94A5CAA@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A78C8AF.D94A5CAA@home.com>; from sound-byte1@home.com on Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 08:23:43PM -0600 Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sound byte (sound-byte1@home.com) wrote: > I am trying to install FreeBSD 3.1 on a new eMachines computer I > bought. I am trying to have it co-exist with WindowsME. Everything > goes fine, i get the partitioning done correctly, I get freebsd to > install a boot manager etc. Then I reboot and get to the screen where i > have to choose as follows: > > F1 Dos > F2 Freebsd > > Default F1 > > I press F2 and nothing happens; I press enter and windows loads up; i > press F1 and wondows loads up!!! Did you actually install FreeBSD in the partition? I believe the boot manager is simply describing the type of filesystem that exists on the disk, not the operating systems that are *actually there*. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 2:10:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.libero.it (smtp4.libero.it [193.70.192.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADF137B491 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 02:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from darkstar.my.net (151.21.200.232) by smtp4.libero.it (5.5.015.5) id 3A54738F011DE474 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:10:25 +0100 Received: from darkstar.my.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.my.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25B214FFA for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:06:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:06:33 +0100 (CET) From: Max Subject: E-IDE Burners? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <20010201100634.D25B214FFA@darkstar.my.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, my old SCSI burner is kaput, and I wuold like to know if also E-IDE burners are supported by FreeBSD or if only SCSI models (that are more expensives) are currently supported. Max To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 6:31:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D5E37B69B for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22914; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:30:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "roadrunner" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpds22912; Fri Feb 2 00:30:28 2001 Message-ID: <00a301c08c5b$95e37bc0$847e03cb@apana.org.au> From: "Doug Young" To: "Max" , References: <20010201100634.D25B214FFA@darkstar.my.net> Subject: Re: E-IDE Burners? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:28:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The only experience I've had with IDE ones has been bad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max" To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: E-IDE Burners? > Hello, > my old SCSI burner is kaput, and I wuold like to know if also E-IDE > burners are supported by FreeBSD or if only SCSI models (that are more > expensives) are currently supported. > > Max > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 6:48: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from holyghost.3dreams.local (3dreams.rgbg.r-kom.net [212.77.176.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD2237B69B for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:47:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: freebsd crashes .... Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:46:19 +0100 Message-ID: <8C5F82BC02D0AF4DB24C93FA8CEC83FF6EF8@holyghost.3dreams.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: freebsd crashes .... X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 Thread-Index: AcCMXe0G5T1Q3oxbEcCBgl5GaZUmIA== content-class: urn:content-classes:message From: "Michael Huber" To: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, i ve succesfully installed and configured freebsd 4.1 on my machine with the following demons, apache, wu-ftpd, samba, netatalk. other things i ve installed is X, enlightment, gimp, netscape and the popular halflife server. i ve compiled my kernel with the option netatalk. ok, everything run fine until 2 days ago. freebsd crashes randomly (it seems to be randomly for me) with one of the following 2 messages: the first one: panic: pmap_release: freeing held page table page the second one: fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual adress: 0xe fault code: supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer: 0x8, 0xc557370 stack pointer: 0x10: 0xccd67b94 frame pointer: 0x10:0xccd67b88 code segment: base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x16, DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags: interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=3D0 current process: 287 (csh) interrupt mask: net tty bio cam trap number: 12 panic: page fault syncing disks.... so, i dont know what to do with these messages. and i have to get this machine running stable again :-) i can provide more information if needed. hope someone can help me. best regards michael ____________________________________________ 3Dreams Medienagentur Michael Huber Yorckstr. 22 D- 93049 Regensburg fon: +49 (0) 941 30749-0 fax: +49 (0) 941 30749-20 e-mail: mhuber@3dreams.com web: http://www.3dreams.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 11:11:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web12401.mail.yahoo.com (web12401.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB7F437B67D for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010201191112.1253.qmail@web12401.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [154.20.11.184] by web12401.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 11:11:12 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Edouard Saksonov Subject: subscribe To: FreeBSD-newbies@Freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe Freebsd-newbies __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 11:19:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F077D37B491 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from C996775-A ([24.16.193.228]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010201191723.ZQQU403.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@C996775-A> for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:17:23 -0800 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:19:45 +0000 From: Y X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: Y Organization: CCAAFF X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <881543369.20010201191945@home.com> To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: subscribe In-reply-To: <20010201191112.1253.qmail@web12401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010201191112.1253.qmail@web12401.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Edouard, Once upon a time (Thursday, February 01, 2001,19:11:12) when bytes were bits and mice were not domesticated yet, networks were configuring themselves and users were friendly Edouard Saksonov, wrote: ES> subscribe Freebsd-newbies five bux and a bucket of Uniks time -- Best regards, Y The Bat! v 1.48f Offtopic2000 Lame Pro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 11:51:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lurkie.xs4all.nl (lurkie.xs4all.nl [194.109.236.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B5537B6A8 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by lurkie.xs4all.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f11JpFF02352; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:51:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:51:15 +0100 From: freebsd To: Max Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: E-IDE Burners? Message-ID: <20010201205115.A2339@lurkie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010201100634.D25B214FFA@darkstar.my.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010201100634.D25B214FFA@darkstar.my.net>; from mmax88@libero.it on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Max, I have an HP 9100, and it works just fine, right out of the box. Never had any problem at all. On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +0100, Max wrote: > my old SCSI burner is kaput, and I wuold like to know if also E-IDE > burners are supported by FreeBSD or if only SCSI models (that are more > expensives) are currently supported. -- =========================================================================== Get off the keyboard you furry feline ! Marc Veldman, CFBSDN (Certified FreeBSD Newbie) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 13: 9:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from felch.internot (b002-m008-p057.acld.clear.net.nz [203.167.199.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FA037B4EC for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from clear.net.nz (felch [10.0.0.1]) by felch.internot (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f11L8k670728; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:08:48 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from jamiew@clear.net.nz) Message-ID: <3A79D05E.8C06D372@clear.net.nz> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:08:46 +1300 From: Jamie Walker Organization: A Touch of Evil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Cc: Max , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: E-IDE Burners? References: <20010201100634.D25B214FFA@darkstar.my.net> <20010201205115.A2339@lurkie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org freebsd wrote: > I have an HP 9100, and it works just fine, > right out of the box. Never had any problem > at all. Ditto. The gap between SCSI and IDE for CD-burning has narrowed dramatically over the last couple of years. -- Email: jamiew@clear.net.nz ICQ: 5632563 or shout loudly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 13:42:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web9604.mail.yahoo.com (web9604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B67337B4EC for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:41:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010201214155.66901.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.30.197.138] by web9604.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:41:55 PST Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:41:55 -0800 (PST) From: gtk Subject: Intel In Business NIC (SA101TX) To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a question regarding the Intel "In-Business" 10/100 PCI NIC. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1 Stable x86. My dmesg output says that it finds device fxp0 irq 9, etc, follow that it lists "could not map memory", and underneath it lists "fxp0 device attach returned 6". I've got my kernel compiled with the following line: device fxp0 at pci? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 Should I be calling this out on "isa?" instead of "pci?" or should I just leave "device fxp0" and nothing else? The dmesg output does recognize this as Intel In-Business 10/100 adapater. Point being, I believe the correct driver is in fact fxp. However, if I'm wrong can someone please let me know what my setup should be to get the card recognized. ifconfig'ing it doesn't work. Always returns the "fxp0" or whichever, does not exist. Thanks. orb451 __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 13:53:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8485E37B491 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17530 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2001 21:53:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 21:53:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3A79DAB9.84AC6B36@urx.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:52:57 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gtk Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Intel In Business NIC (SA101TX) References: <20010201214155.66901.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org gtk wrote: > > Hello, I have a question regarding the Intel > "In-Business" 10/100 PCI NIC. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1 > Stable x86. My dmesg output says that it finds device > fxp0 irq 9, etc, follow that it lists "could not map > memory", and underneath it lists "fxp0 device attach > returned 6". I've got my kernel compiled with the > following line: > > device fxp0 at pci? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 Why did you do this instead of just "device fxp0"? It is complaining that something else also has 0xd0000. Kent > > Should I be calling this out on "isa?" instead of > "pci?" or should I just leave "device fxp0" and > nothing else? The dmesg output does recognize this as > Intel In-Business 10/100 adapater. Point being, I > believe the correct driver is in fact fxp. However, > if I'm wrong can someone please let me know what my > setup should be to get the card recognized. > ifconfig'ing it doesn't work. Always returns the > "fxp0" or whichever, does not exist. > > Thanks. > > orb451 > > __________________________________________________ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 13:59:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from home.offwhite.net (home.offwhite.net [156.46.35.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AC937B6A7 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (brennan@localhost) by home.offwhite.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f11Lwf579538; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:58:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brennan@offwhite.net) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:58:41 -0600 (CST) From: Brennan Stehling To: gtk Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel In Business NIC (SA101TX) In-Reply-To: <20010201214155.66901.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think your kernel config is a bit odd. I am not sure how you got that information. You should be able to simply use this line on 3.x box... device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) That is what I have in my kernel config and it works just fine. Here is a command I just ran... > ifconfig -lu xl0 fxp0 fxp1 lo0 You can see I have one 3Com XL card and the 2 Intel cards in there. But this in a on a maching running 3.5-STABLE. I have another box with 4.1-RELEASE. Here is what it has in the kernel config. device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) It is slightly different, but you will notice I am not trying to hard code the memory address. And this server has 3 Intel cards. > ifconfig -lu fxp0 fxp1 fxp2 lo0 This server is also a SMP enable box with the settings for SMP hard coded into the kernel config. Later after I put this server in place I found that you can simply leave off the specifics and it will take care of it for you during the boot process. Some may see a value in hard coding it, but I tend to see it working via autodetect better than not being able to get it working at all. Much has changed in the 4.x branch. I just installed a fresh 4.2-RELEASE via boot floppies and ftp onto a 486 and I am impressed with the changes they have made. It seems FreeBSD is becoming every bit as secure as OpenBSD. After you get the kernel updated and it does not work, rebuild your devices... > cd /dev > sh MAKEDEV all But I am guessing that will not be necessary, but it won't hurt. I hope this information helps you... Brennan Stehling - software developer and system administrator for hire: http://resume.offwhite.net/ my projects: home.offwhite.net (free personal hosting) www.greasydaemon.com (bsd search) On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, gtk wrote: > Hello, I have a question regarding the Intel > "In-Business" 10/100 PCI NIC. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1 > Stable x86. My dmesg output says that it finds device > fxp0 irq 9, etc, follow that it lists "could not map > memory", and underneath it lists "fxp0 device attach > returned 6". I've got my kernel compiled with the > following line: > > device fxp0 at pci? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 > > Should I be calling this out on "isa?" instead of > "pci?" or should I just leave "device fxp0" and > nothing else? The dmesg output does recognize this as > Intel In-Business 10/100 adapater. Point being, I > believe the correct driver is in fact fxp. However, > if I'm wrong can someone please let me know what my > setup should be to get the card recognized. > ifconfig'ing it doesn't work. Always returns the > "fxp0" or whichever, does not exist. > > Thanks. > > orb451 > > __________________________________________________ > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 14:13:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from earth.wnm.net (earth.wnm.net [208.246.240.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D594037B698 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by earth.wnm.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f11MDoN70241; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:13:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by earth.wnm.net (8.11.0/8.11.0av) with ESMTP id f11MDng70233; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:13:49 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: earth.wnm.net: alex owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:13:49 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Charalabidis To: gtk Cc: Subject: Re: Intel In Business NIC (SA101TX) In-Reply-To: <20010201214155.66901.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, gtk wrote: > Hello, I have a question regarding the Intel > "In-Business" 10/100 PCI NIC. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1 > Stable x86. My dmesg output says that it finds device > fxp0 irq 9, etc, follow that it lists "could not map > memory", and underneath it lists "fxp0 device attach > returned 6". I've got my kernel compiled with the > following line: > > device fxp0 at pci? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 > > Should I be calling this out on "isa?" instead of > "pci?" or should I just leave "device fxp0" and > nothing else? The dmesg output does recognize this as > Intel In-Business 10/100 adapater. Point being, I > believe the correct driver is in fact fxp. However, > if I'm wrong can someone please let me know what my > setup should be to get the card recognized. > ifconfig'ing it doesn't work. Always returns the > "fxp0" or whichever, does not exist. > Try using just device fxp If I remember correctly, it's an 82559. I recall being given one of those "in business" things that refused to work under W2K and Linux and it worked just fine on FreeBSD with the regular fxp driver, no weird options. -ac -- ============================================================== Alex Charalabidis (AC8139) 5050 Poplar Ave, Ste 170 System Administrator Memphis, TN 38157 WebNet Memphis (901) 432 6000 Author, The Book of IRC http://www.bookofirc.com/ ============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 14:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B5AE37B503 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f11MFqi14811; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:15:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <01c401c08c9d$c2382f30$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "gtk" , References: <20010201214155.66901.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Intel In Business NIC (SA101TX) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:24:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, I have a question regarding the Intel > "In-Business" 10/100 PCI NIC. I'm running FreeBSD 4.1 > Stable x86. My dmesg output says that it finds device > fxp0 irq 9, etc, follow that it lists "could not map > memory", and underneath it lists "fxp0 device attach > returned 6". I've got my kernel compiled with the > following line: > > device fxp0 at pci? port 0x300 irq 9 iomem 0xd0000 Since this is a PCI-based plug-and-play adapter, you don't need any of the port/irq stuff. All you need is 'device fxp0' and the port/irq/iomem stuff will be configured automatically. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 17:44: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F73D37B6B7 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DA0C6AC9E; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:12:59 +1030 (CST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:12:58 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Michael Huber Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd crashes .... Message-ID: <20010202121258.C82163@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <8C5F82BC02D0AF4DB24C93FA8CEC83FF6EF8@holyghost.3dreams.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <8C5F82BC02D0AF4DB24C93FA8CEC83FF6EF8@holyghost.3dreams.local>; from mhuber@3dreams.com on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:46:19PM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 1 February 2001 at 15:46:19 +0100, Michael Huber wrote: > > freebsd crashes randomly (it seems to be randomly for me) with one of > the following 2 messages: I've made a promise not to answer technical questions on -newbies. If you send the report to -questions and submit some details, you should get some help. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Feb 1 19:50:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pobox.inspire.net.nz (pobox.inspire.net.nz [203.79.89.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047DF37B491 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspire.net.nz (ipnet-212.inspire.net.nz [203.79.88.212]) by pobox.inspire.net.nz (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f123oJk02556; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:50:19 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <3A7A312A.1A2E6343@inspire.net.nz> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 17:01:46 +1300 From: "Bruce D. Harding" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Huber Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd crashes .... References: <8C5F82BC02D0AF4DB24C93FA8CEC83FF6EF8@holyghost.3dreams.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Huber wrote: > i ve succesfully installed and configured freebsd 4.1 on my machine with > the following demons, apache, wu-ftpd, samba, netatalk. > other things i ve installed is X, enlightment, gimp, netscape and the > popular halflife server. > > i ve compiled my kernel with the option netatalk. > > ok, everything run fine until 2 days ago. > > freebsd crashes randomly (it seems to be randomly for me) with one of > the following 2 messages: > > the first one: > panic: pmap_release: freeing held page table page > > the second one: > fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual adress: 0xe > fault code: supervisor write, page not present > instruction pointer: 0x8, 0xc557370 > stack pointer: 0x10: 0xccd67b94 > frame pointer: 0x10:0xccd67b88 > code segment: base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x16, DPL 0, pres 1, > def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags: interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 > current process: 287 (csh) > interrupt mask: net tty bio cam > trap number: 12 > panic: page fault > > syncing disks.... > > so, i dont know what to do with these messages. and i have to get this > machine running stable again :-) > > i can provide more information if needed. hope someone can help me. > I'd suggest that you send this to questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 2 9:42:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from abulafia.fciencias.unam.mx (abulafia.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.28.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B61737B698 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3277 invoked by uid 1003); 2 Feb 2001 18:50:52 -0000 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: tree From: "Ivan =?iso-8859-1?q?Hern=E1ndez?=" Date: 02 Feb 2001 12:50:47 -0600 Message-ID: <84g0hw7wc8.fsf@abulafia.fciencias.unam.mx> Lines: 6 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Capitol Reef) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, do you know which port contains the tree command? (tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format) ivan ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 2 9:44:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.flex.ic5.net (pc7-ren13.cable.ntl.com [62.255.161.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D71737B698 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from coda ([192.168.5.2]) by mail.flex.ic5.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28441; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:44:12 GMT (envelope-from johnm@ic5.net) From: "John McGarrigle" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Hern=E1ndez?= , Subject: RE: tree Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:44:11 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <84g0hw7wc8.fsf@abulafia.fciencias.unam.mx> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would *guess*; /usr/ports/misc/ytree But that's only because I did a locate tree :) ---- John 'Neuron' McGarrigle Email: johnm@ic5.net ICQ: 18220396 Phone: +44 (0)7944 604 644 ---- -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ivan Hern嫕dez Sent: 02 February 2001 6:51 PM To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: tree hi, do you know which port contains the tree command? (tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format) ivan ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 2 9:56:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F2B37B491 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA17813; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:56:20 -0500 (EST) From: Ben_Calvert@amsinc.com Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 852569E7.006288A4 ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:56:15 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ivan_Hern=E1ndez=22?= Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <852569E7.006237A6.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 09:52:39 -0800 Subject: Re: tree Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi ivan. cd to your /usr/ports directory, and type this: make search name=3Dtree this will tell you what port has 'tree' in it's name. if it doesn't fi= nd it that way, it might be included in something else, type make search key=3Dtree and you'll get a list of ports that include the word 'tree' anywhere in= their description. i recommend piping the output of this to less (or more, i= f you haven't installed less), as this usualy produces several screens of out= put: make search key=3Dtree | less good luck! |--------+----------------------------------> | | "Ivan Hern=E1ndez" | | | | | | | | | 02/02/01 10:50 AM | | | | |--------+----------------------------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------= --------| | = | | To: newbies@freebsd.org = | | cc: (bcc: Ben Calvert/AMS/AMSINC) = | | Subject: tree = | >--------------------------------------------------------------------= --------| hi, do you know which port contains the tree command? (tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format) ivan ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 2 17:26:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AF837B401 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA99428 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200102030130.MAA99428@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 2 19:24:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interlog.com (bretweir.total.net [154.11.89.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14C6137B401 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24652 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2001 03:23:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vws3.interlog.com) (207.34.202.29) by bretweir.total.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2001 03:23:59 -0000 Received: by vws3.interlog.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id WAA17757; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:24:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:24:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200102030324.WAA17757@vws3.interlog.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: FreeBSD Security Advisories Subject: FreeBSD Security Advisory: FreeBSD-SA-01:20.egos Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ============================================================================= FreeBSD-SA-01:09 Security Advisory FreeBSD, Inc. Topic: Local ego exploit Category: (l)users Announced: 2001-02-03 Credits: AntiOffline.com, Disgraced.org, Deficiency.org sil, deran9ed Affects: All released (l)users of FreeBSD Corrected: (l)Users should seek psychotherapy shock therapy, along with multiple doses of Thorazine chased by 2 shots of Liquid Draino for maximum effectivity Vendor status: Feelings still hurting while crying over spilled milk. FreeBSD only: YES and some of their (l)users I. Background FreeBSD (l)users became disgruntled about the original advisory concerning the bloated remarks aimed towards their chopperating sysdumb. This became an issue for some on Internet Relay Chat, and caused them to ban others' connection since their ego's had been hurt. (boo fsckin hoo) II. Problem Description Penis envy seems to be the number one cause, and we are trying to differentiate between the women who still have penises, that are crying (game) foul. For the hermies we suggest counseling, and estrogen treatment followed by a visit to fellow hermie JP @ AntiOnline.com as well as the switch hitting lesbo at http://www.happyhacker.org in an effort to ass!ess their sexualities. Egos can be strengthened by practicing humility and learning that once in a while it is a good thing to actually have a good laugh, although to those whose egos' that have been hurt we suggest that you replace the batteries in your dildos and reinsert them into your anal crevices. III. Impact None to those with a sense of humor, although those without them will grow old and become miserable rootards, capable of placing razor blades, crushed glass, and cyanide, in the bags of small children who are out for Halloween Trick or Treating. IV. Workaround Take a look at your own shortcomings before judging others. V. Solution Socialize a bit more. VI. Shouts Marshall Mathers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 3 8:45:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A9937B491 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from cx821302a ([65.8.20.66]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010203164457.MSOR26894.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx821302a> for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:44:57 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01c08e01$07550de0$42140841@glstnbry1.ct.home.com> From: "Baron Von Sock" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:47:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08DD7.1BF1F260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08DD7.1BF1F260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I use FreeBSB do I have to repartition my hardrive, or does it run = over an existing windows partition? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08DD7.1BF1F260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I use FreeBSB do I have to = repartition my=20 hardrive, or does it run over an existing windows=20 partition?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C08DD7.1BF1F260-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 3 9:28: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6B637B401 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi.concentric.net [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA07632; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:27:42 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts002d30.mer-id.concentric.net (ts002d30.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.90]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA27026; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:27:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:25:20 -0700 (MST) From: ML Duke To: Baron Von Sock Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <000a01c08e01$07550de0$42140841@glstnbry1.ct.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes and no respectively. ML Duke On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Baron Von Sock wrote: > When I use FreeBSB do I have to repartition my hardrive, or does it run over an existing windows partition? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 3 21:14:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop.sat.net.pk (unknown [202.5.153.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067CB37B401 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:14:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from client1 ([202.133.65.206]) by pop.sat.net.pk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f14FCwi01652 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:13:01 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <001501c08ed6$13a88290$ce4185ca@client1> From: "faisal" To: "freebad" Subject: the right mailing list Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 09:58:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think i am in the wrong list can you tell me which mailing list to subscribe ? i am new to freebsd have installed FreeBSD 4.0 in my 1386 machine now i want to ask technical questions help me out please thanks Faisal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Feb 3 22:38: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDED37B401 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 22:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04356; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:42:39 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:42:35 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: faisal Cc: freebad Subject: Re: the right mailing list Message-ID: <20010204174234.J1594@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: faisal , freebad References: <001501c08ed6$13a88290$ce4185ca@client1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <001501c08ed6$13a88290$ce4185ca@client1>; from faisal on Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 09:58:44AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 09:58:44AM -0800, faisal wrote: > I think i am in the wrong list can you tell me which mailing list to > subscribe ? > i am new to freebsd have installed FreeBSD 4.0 in my 1386 machine now i want > to ask technical questions > help me out please freebsd-questions@freebsd.org is the only place you should be asking for help. If you want to chat, boast, slap your own wrist, let off steam, make friends, etc etc, use freebsd-newbies for that because freebsd-questions doesn't allow idle chit-chat but we do :-) This is also the place to ask if you're having trouble finding documentation or understanding how the freebsd lists work, but then your how-to questions go to freebsd-questions. Umm... before you post to freebsd-questions I suggest you fix your typo (freebsd has no "a" in it). Oops :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message