From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 11 12:36:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com (stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com [204.119.3.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DCE37B417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from phils (dsl-95.adweb.net [208.152.19.65]) by stinger-dsl-81.wvi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A89426E1E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:47:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Phil Webb" To: Subject: Howdy! Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:36:19 -0800 Message-ID: <002f01c16af0$85410250$6401a8c0@phils> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just poppin' in to say hi, so "HI"! There, I'm done with it! :) I have been piddling with FreeBSD since 4.0 but now am getting "serious" with it. I work for a large office supply chain selling computers etc. and occaisonally folks come in with *nix questions so I suppose I should have a reasonable grasp of it eh? I am pretty familiar with Windows (even got XP to dual boot with FreeBSD 4.4 on this machine) and run FreeBSD on 2 machines at home. That way if I screw one up, I have something to compare to! At any rate, I am now starting to actually get around fairly well and am even getting dangerous. To Wit: re-compiled the kernel and got my onboard sound working (Oh happy day!) and walked around with a swolen head for a couple of days. I have Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" and have Annelise Andersons book on order (waiting impatiently I might add!:) ). Nothing beats the printed word for untangling messes. Now my goals are to get the CD drives to play music CD's as well as burn (on the burner of course), get SAMBA working so The Wife can print across our little network and get my own dadgum printer working. Unfortunately my HP 932c, while a great little printer doesn't support Postscript. :( As I saw in another thread, *nix does require one to pay attention to details, so thats good exercise too! To that end I suppose I'd better learn to type well. At the moment the backspace key seems to be my best friend in KDE. Once I start with vi I'm really gonna be in trouble! :) Anyway, just a word of encouragement to the frustrated and thanks to those who help. Have Fun! phil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 11 12:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net (smtp-1.visp.telinco.net [212.1.130.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8683037B418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.1.137.192] (helo=me01) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 1631gz-0004b4-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:59:02 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c16af3$e93beba0$c08901d4@wintellect.com> From: "Philip Pereira" To: "Phil Webb" , References: <002f01c16af0$85410250$6401a8c0@phils> Subject: Re: Howdy! Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:53:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey Phil, my name's Phil too. Any idea how to set up KDE as the default windowmanager when you type in "startx" ? When I put it in my "xinit.rc" home file, I get a "$Display not configured" message... any ideas? Cheers Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Webb" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:36 PM Subject: Howdy! > Just poppin' in to say hi, so "HI"! > > There, I'm done with it! :) > > I have been piddling with FreeBSD since 4.0 but now am getting "serious" > > with it. I work for a large office supply chain selling computers etc. > and > occaisonally folks come in with *nix questions so I suppose I should > have a > reasonable grasp of it eh? > > I am pretty familiar with Windows (even got XP to dual boot with FreeBSD > > 4.4 on this machine) and run FreeBSD on 2 machines at home. That way if > I > screw one up, I have something to compare to! > > At any rate, I am now starting to actually get around fairly well and am > > even getting dangerous. To Wit: re-compiled the kernel and got my > onboard > sound working (Oh happy day!) and walked around with a swolen head for a > > couple of days. > > I have Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" and have Annelise > Andersons book on order (waiting impatiently I might add!:) ). Nothing > beats the printed word for untangling messes. > > Now my goals are to get the CD drives to play music CD's as well as burn > > (on the burner of course), get SAMBA working so The Wife can print > across > our little network and get my own dadgum printer working. Unfortunately > my > HP 932c, while a great little printer doesn't support Postscript. :( > > As I saw in another thread, *nix does require one to pay attention to > details, so thats good exercise too! To that end I suppose I'd better > learn to type well. At the moment the backspace key seems to be my best > > friend in KDE. Once I start with vi I'm really gonna be in trouble! :) > > Anyway, just a word of encouragement to the frustrated and thanks to > those > who help. > > Have Fun! > > phil > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 11 13:31:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E54637B405 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fABLYxua047625; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:35:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BEEEE42.1000708@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:31:46 -0600 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011025 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Pereira Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howdy! References: <002f01c16af0$85410250$6401a8c0@phils> <001901c16af3$e93beba0$c08901d4@wintellect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The file name is .xinitrc not xinit.rc notice the "." is before the "xinitrc". That should make it work as long as you have "exec startkde" in the .xinitrc file. Scott Philip Pereira wrote: >Hey Phil, > >my name's Phil too. Any idea how to set up KDE as the default >windowmanager when you type in "startx" ? > >When I put it in my "xinit.rc" home file, I get a "$Display not configured" >message... any ideas? > >Cheers > >Phil > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Phil Webb" >To: >Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:36 PM >Subject: Howdy! > > >>Just poppin' in to say hi, so "HI"! >> >>There, I'm done with it! :) >> >>I have been piddling with FreeBSD since 4.0 but now am getting "serious" >> >>with it. I work for a large office supply chain selling computers etc. >>and >>occaisonally folks come in with *nix questions so I suppose I should >>have a >>reasonable grasp of it eh? >> >>I am pretty familiar with Windows (even got XP to dual boot with FreeBSD >> >>4.4 on this machine) and run FreeBSD on 2 machines at home. That way if >>I >>screw one up, I have something to compare to! >> >>At any rate, I am now starting to actually get around fairly well and am >> >>even getting dangerous. To Wit: re-compiled the kernel and got my >>onboard >>sound working (Oh happy day!) and walked around with a swolen head for a >> >>couple of days. >> >>I have Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" and have Annelise >>Andersons book on order (waiting impatiently I might add!:) ). Nothing >>beats the printed word for untangling messes. >> >>Now my goals are to get the CD drives to play music CD's as well as burn >> >>(on the burner of course), get SAMBA working so The Wife can print >>across >>our little network and get my own dadgum printer working. Unfortunately >>my >>HP 932c, while a great little printer doesn't support Postscript. :( >> >>As I saw in another thread, *nix does require one to pay attention to >>details, so thats good exercise too! To that end I suppose I'd better >>learn to type well. At the moment the backspace key seems to be my best >> >>friend in KDE. Once I start with vi I'm really gonna be in trouble! :) >> >>Anyway, just a word of encouragement to the frustrated and thanks to >>those >>who help. >> >>Have Fun! >> >>phil >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 11 13:39:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pineapple.theshop.net (pineapple.theshop.net [208.128.7.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFD337B416 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdprophet.org (cherry46.theshop.net [63.67.33.111]) by pineapple.theshop.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id fABLghua053450; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:42:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3BEEF012.5020106@bsdprophet.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:39:30 -0600 From: Scott Corey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011025 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phil Webb Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howdy! References: <002f01c16af0$85410250$6401a8c0@phils> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Phil, Nice to hear about you adventures with FreeBSD. I made some suggestions later in this email to maybe help you along the way. Good luck. And remember have fun! That's what it's all about. Scott Phil Webb wrote: >Just poppin' in to say hi, so "HI"! > >There, I'm done with it! :) > >I have been piddling with FreeBSD since 4.0 but now am getting "serious" > >with it. I work for a large office supply chain selling computers etc. >and >occaisonally folks come in with *nix questions so I suppose I should >have a >reasonable grasp of it eh? > >I am pretty familiar with Windows (even got XP to dual boot with FreeBSD > >4.4 on this machine) and run FreeBSD on 2 machines at home. That way if >I >screw one up, I have something to compare to! > >At any rate, I am now starting to actually get around fairly well and am > >even getting dangerous. To Wit: re-compiled the kernel and got my >onboard >sound working (Oh happy day!) and walked around with a swolen head for a > >couple of days. > >I have Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" and have Annelise >Andersons book on order (waiting impatiently I might add!:) ). Nothing >beats the printed word for untangling messes. > >Now my goals are to get the CD drives to play music CD's as well as burn > If your sound card is working and you have the patch cord from the cd to the sound card, give it a try it should work. > > >(on the burner of course), > Cdrecord is an excellent burner for scsi or burncd is for IDE's. > get SAMBA working so The Wife can print >across >our little network and get my own dadgum printer working. Unfortunately >my >HP 932c, while a great little printer doesn't support Postscript. :( > You might try aspfilter in the ports tree under sysutils. > >As I saw in another thread, *nix does require one to pay attention to >details, so thats good exercise too! To that end I suppose I'd better >learn to type well. At the moment the backspace key seems to be my best > >friend in KDE. Once I start with vi I'm really gonna be in trouble! :) > >Anyway, just a word of encouragement to the frustrated and thanks to >those >who help. > >Have Fun! > >phil > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 11 15:44: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D7BC37B421 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:44:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011111234402.58808.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:44:02 PST Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:44:02 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: a good link To: newbies@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, this link will be a good one for guys working on the doc... and lots of info for newbies as well... http://www.vmunix.com/fbsd-book/book.phtml thanks.. regards.. Hiten Pandya __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 0:45:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7266437B416 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from drustvo-dns.si ([127.0.0.1]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GMOI5R00.G08 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:27:27 +0100 From: "Martin Zibert" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:27:27 +0100 X-Mailer: Netscape Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: Restricting Xwindows X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings! First of all i'd like to say: sorry about my english.It's not very good. I have one problem.We have a cyber caffee in our town and all the computers run on Windows platform.Now, we want to make a change.We want to install FreeBSD, but there are some problems. We'd like to run Xwindows but very restricted kind of Xwindows.let me explain that: no KDE just default Xwindows, no menus.When user look at the screen he/she must only see Netscape and nothing else - no telnet or other services.We also want to acomplish that users cannot save any files or anything else.I know that can be acomplished with permissions or security level, but i don't know how to restrict Xwindows. Does anybody know how to make this thing work? Oh, and another thing.There are some parameters which shutdown Xwindows (ctrl+alt+backspace) - we want to change that to! Thank for all the help in advance. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 5:31: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web21008.mail.yahoo.com (web21008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD34C37B41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:31:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011112133104.2444.qmail@web21008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.124.0.247] by web21008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:31:04 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:31:04 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tadimeti=20Keshav?= Subject: How to install an external modem? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I had successfully installed a STANDARD installation of FreeBSD 4.3 My kernel is GENERIC. I have not compiled it yet. I then connected an EXTERNAL modem (Creative Blaster 56K V.90). Q1: How do I get FreeBSD to recognize this modem? Q2: How do I dial up? How do I connect to the INternet? (what is the equivalent of DIAL_UP connections here) I searched the HANDBOOK and FAQ in vain. I hope I have not asked a repeat question. If so please refer me to a specific section of the handbook / other documentation. Thanks for your time. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 5:36: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B9B37B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 05:35:57 -0800 Received: from 139.108.190.213 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:35:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [139.108.190.213] From: "Thor Legvold" To: martin.zibert@drustvo-dns.si Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:35:56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2001 13:35:57.0163 (UTC) FILETIME=[F57B3BB0:01C16B7E] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Greetings! Dobar dan :-) >First of all i'd like to say: sorry about my english.It's not very >good. Nema problema, mi govorimo puno drugacije jezike to :-) >I have one problem.We have a cyber caffee in our town and all the >computers run on Windows platform.Now, we want to make a change.We want >to install FreeBSD, but there are some problems. >We'd like to run Xwindows but very restricted kind of Xwindows.let me >explain that: no KDE just default Xwindows, no menus.When user look at >the screen he/she must only see Netscape and nothing else - no telnet >or >other services.We also want to acomplish that users cannot save any >files or anything else.I know that can be acomplished with permissions >or security level, but i don't know how to restrict Xwindows. >Does anybody know how to make this thing work? >Oh, and another thing.There are some parameters which shutdown Xwindows >(ctrl+alt+backspace) - we want to change that to! Hmm, I'm nowhere close to being an X11 guru, but I beleive the shutdown sequence can be set in xf86config file (or by using the graphical configuration to do the same). The other things might be setup by using some sort of sandbox so that when a user logs on they only have access to the programs you define, and nothing else (a la an ftp session). But I'm only guessing.... >Thank for all the help in advance. Nema ne cemu. >Martin Pozdrav od, Thor _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 12:24:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCDA37B417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:24:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix ([194.249.1.34]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMPEIG00.C0J for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:06:16 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c16bb7$5e30acc0$2201f9c2@unix> From: "Martin Zibert" To: References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <3BEFEA45.10005@bsdprophet.org> Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:19:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Corey" To: "Martin Zibert" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Hello again, > Martin, > > Okay, you would like a system that only has netscape running on it. With Actualy i would like a system, that has everything, just one user account must be restricted. And yes, it must have Xwindows but without window manager (i think that by default it comes without Xwindows - it contains only 3 xterms .. blue backgroud) > the xwindow system you must have a window manager, however there are > ways to restict the menus that the person would have to use. > > You would like the users only to view netscape and not save anything. Yes, i would like the users ONLY to view netscape! Let's say: no xterms, no menus, just Netscape. > > Would you like the users to be able to save only to a floppy disc, or > not at all? No users mustn't be able to save on any device connected to computer.I think that can be accomplished with permission and security level, right? > > Why do you want to restrict the ctrl+alt+backspace? Because if that is not restricted, anyone can bypass that and can access prompt. We don't want that, because users can only surf. > > Would you like a gui logon prompt? Reasons being if the user does > ctrl+alt+backspace in a xwindow session it would go back to the gui > login prompt only, limiting the users to logon and logoff. Well i didn't understand the last sentence, but anyway: users can only surf and nothing else.No prompt, no saving files or such things. Can you please help me with that? Thanks in advance Bye, Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 15:17:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com (neodymium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F117C37B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.7.49.82] (helo=turtle.mutantturtle) by neodymium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 163QK6-0006ot-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:17:03 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by turtle.mutantturtle (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fACNG5416605 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:16:05 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:16:05 +0000 From: Mark Hill To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Message-ID: <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organization: Very little X-OS: Slackware Linux 8.0 X-Uptime: up 1 day 19 hours 12 minutes X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 09:27:27AM +0100, Martin Zibert wrote: > Greetings! > > First of all i'd like to say: sorry about my english.It's not very good. > I have one problem.We have a cyber caffee in our town and all the > computers run on Windows platform.Now, we want to make a change.We want > to install FreeBSD, but there are some problems. > We'd like to run Xwindows but very restricted kind of Xwindows.let me > explain that: no KDE just default Xwindows, no menus.When user look at > the screen he/she must only see Netscape and nothing else - no telnet or > other services.We also want to acomplish that users cannot save any > files or anything else.I know that can be acomplished with permissions > or security level, but i don't know how to restrict Xwindows. > Does anybody know how to make this thing work? > Oh, and another thing.There are some parameters which shutdown Xwindows > (ctrl+alt+backspace) - we want to change that to! > > Thank for all the help in advance. > > Martin > > Hi, I tried to keep out of this thread, because I only (roughly) know how to do what you want on a linux box. What's the FreeBSD equivalent of ~/.xinitrc? I think it's ~/xinit.rc In your ~/.xinitrc equivalent, change the last line that says exec (your window manger here) to exec netscape when you run startx (or the FreeBSD equivalent - sorry!) You will get a windowless netscape on your screen. I think you can configure netscape to take up the whole of the screen. Use a 'graphical login manager' for the ctrl+alt+backspace problem. Examples of graphical login managers are xdm, gdm and kdm. (IIRC). Using a graphical login manager will prevent user's accessing the console. For extra security, you can restrict the user's account with sudo (or the FreeBSD equivalent - Sorry again!). That way, a console prompt will fairly useless to them. I hope the above isn't too Linux specific and that someone knows what I'm talking about. Hoping to help. -- Mark Hill - http://www.fero.uklinux.net Hoping not to fall in the 'it works like that in Linux' trap Using FreeBSD 4.2 in vmware 3.0, on top of Slackware Linux 8.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 15:34:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com (praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B28637B418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.1.112.146] (helo=turtle.mutantturtle) by praseodumium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 163Qaw-00024e-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:34:26 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by turtle.mutantturtle (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fACNXKn16707 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:33:20 GMT Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:33:20 +0000 From: Mark Hill To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Message-ID: <20011112233320.A16700@turtle.turtle> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organization: Very little X-OS: Slackware Linux 8.0 X-Uptime: up 1 day 19 hours 54 minutes X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:16:05PM +0000, Mark Hill wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 09:27:27AM +0100, Martin Zibert wrote: > > Greetings! > > > > First of all i'd like to say: sorry about my english.It's not very good. > > I have one problem.We have a cyber caffee in our town and all the > > computers run on Windows platform.Now, we want to make a change.We want > > to install FreeBSD, but there are some problems. > > We'd like to run Xwindows but very restricted kind of Xwindows.let me > > explain that: no KDE just default Xwindows, no menus.When user look at > > the screen he/she must only see Netscape and nothing else - no telnet or > > other services.We also want to acomplish that users cannot save any > > files or anything else.I know that can be acomplished with permissions > > or security level, but i don't know how to restrict Xwindows. > > Does anybody know how to make this thing work? > > Oh, and another thing.There are some parameters which shutdown Xwindows > > (ctrl+alt+backspace) - we want to change that to! > > > > Thank for all the help in advance. > > > > Martin > > > > > Hi, > I tried to keep out of this thread, because I only (roughly) know how to > do what you want on a linux box. > > What's the FreeBSD equivalent of ~/.xinitrc? I think it's ~/xinit.rc > > In your ~/.xinitrc equivalent, change the last line that says > > exec (your window manger here) > > to > > exec netscape > > when you run startx (or the FreeBSD equivalent - sorry!) > > You will get a windowless netscape on your screen. I think you > can configure netscape to take up the whole of the screen. -------> I meant BORDERLESS netscape, not windowless. :) > > Use a 'graphical login manager' for the ctrl+alt+backspace problem. > Examples of graphical login managers are xdm, gdm and kdm. (IIRC). > Using a graphical login manager will prevent user's accessing the > console. > > For extra security, you can restrict the user's account with sudo (or > the FreeBSD equivalent - Sorry again!). That way, a console prompt will > fairly useless to them. > > I hope the above isn't too Linux specific and that someone knows what > I'm talking about. > > Hoping to help. -- Mark Hill - http://www.fero.uklinux.net Hoping not to fall in the 'it works like that in Linux' trap Using FreeBSD 4.2 in vmware 3.0, on top of Slackware Linux 8.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 16: 1:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860FB37B416 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA783; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:01:42 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF062E4.20156BC9@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:01:40 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Hill Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Hill wrote: > What's the FreeBSD equivalent of ~/.xinitrc? I think it's ~/xinit.rc Since both Linux and FreeBSD use the same X11, namely XFree86, the files will be the same. It's .xinitrc on both platforms. Ditto for startx. There are some differences between the two, but they're primarily related to distro addons (drakx), DRI, and device names (/dev/sysmouse vs /dev/psaux). David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 16:11:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ideal.net.au (ion.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACCE037B418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from helium.ideal.net.au (helium.staff.ideal.net.au [202.3.35.2]) by mail.ideal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA66539 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:11:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from chris@ideal.net.au) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011113110529.038222a8@mail.ideal.net.au> X-Sender: chris@mail.ideal.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:11:28 +1100 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chris Aitken Subject: Perl on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3BF062E4.20156BC9@acuson.com> References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone.... I have a curley on I havent been able to work out. What I want to be able to do is take the output of a FreeBSD command, and pipe the output to a perl script so I can use that data.... For example. If I ran the following at command line, # echo "Blah Blah Blah" | perlscript.pl How would I be able to print "Blah Blah Blah" to the screen from the perl script. I am only new to perl and have been doing alot of funky mrtg stuff opening files and commands within the perl script and taking the output, but im stumped on how to pipe data to a perl script and use that data in the perl script. Any assistance would be great. Thanks Chris -- Chris Aitken - Administration/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet email: chris@ideal.net.au phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 __-----------------------------------------__ # ln -s /dev/null /bin/laden If you don't like my typing, all flames to /bin/laden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 22:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com (praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0757437B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.122.219.11] (helo=turtle.mutantturtle) by praseodumium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 163X56-0004xI-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:30:01 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by turtle.mutantturtle (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAD6Tgq16936 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:29:42 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:29:41 +0000 From: Mark Hill To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011113062941.A16899@turtle.turtle> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> <5.1.0.14.2.20011113110529.038222a8@mail.ideal.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011113110529.038222a8@mail.ideal.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organization: Very little X-OS: Slackware Linux 8.0 X-Uptime: up 2 days 2 hours 35 minutes X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 11:11:28AM +1100, Chris Aitken wrote: > Hi everyone.... > > > I have a curley on I havent been able to work out. > > What I want to be able to do is take the output of a FreeBSD command, and > pipe the output to a perl script so I can use that data.... > > For example. If I ran the following at command line, > > # echo "Blah Blah Blah" | perlscript.pl > > How would I be able to print "Blah Blah Blah" to the screen from the perl > script. I am only new to perl and have been doing alot of funky mrtg stuff > opening files and commands within the perl script and taking the output, > but im stumped on how to pipe data to a perl script and use that data in > the perl script. > > > Any assistance would be great. > > > > Thanks > > > Chris > > > > -- > Chris Aitken - Administration/Database Designer - IDEAL Internet > email: chris@ideal.net.au phone: +61 2 4628 8888 fax: +61 2 4628 8890 > __-----------------------------------------__ > # ln -s /dev/null /bin/laden > If you don't like my typing, all flames to /bin/laden > > Hi, I think there's a few ways of doing what you want. One is using . E.g #!/usr/bin/perl -w $name = ; print $name; The above will take one line of standard input. I make the perl script executable (chmod +x perlscript.pl), so when I do the following echo "Mark" | perlscript.pl I get the result of: Mark There's also a thing called @ARGV, but I'd have trouble explaining that. It's usually used to take names of file names like, perlscript.pl file1 file2 file3 That may be more useful to you. Go to www.perlmonks.org for more info. That's a quality site. -- Mark Hill - http://www.fero.uklinux.net Hoping not to fall in the 'it works like that in Linux' trap Using FreeBSD 4.2 in vmware 3.0, on top of Slackware Linux 8.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 12 23:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from praseodumium.btinternet.com (praseodumium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055A737B405 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 23:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.122.219.11] (helo=turtle.mutantturtle) by ruthenium with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 163X8u-0006dm-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:33:56 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by turtle.mutantturtle (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAD6Xcs16941 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:33:38 GMT Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:33:38 +0000 From: Mark Hill To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Message-ID: <20011113063338.B16899@turtle.turtle> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> <3BF062E4.20156BC9@acuson.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BF062E4.20156BC9@acuson.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i Organization: Very little X-OS: Slackware Linux 8.0 X-Uptime: up 2 days 2 hours 35 minutes X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 04:01:40PM -0800, David Johnson wrote: > Mark Hill wrote: > > > What's the FreeBSD equivalent of ~/.xinitrc? I think it's ~/xinit.rc > > Since both Linux and FreeBSD use the same X11, namely XFree86, the files > will be the same. It's .xinitrc on both platforms. Ditto for startx. > > There are some differences between the two, but they're primarily > related to distro addons (drakx), DRI, and device names (/dev/sysmouse > vs /dev/psaux). > > > David > Thanks David, I thought read about ~/xinit.rc somewhere in a doc. I must of misunderstood. So far, I've found the difference between slackware and FreeBSD not *too* great, as slackware is not in to distro-specific tools and aims to be very (BSD) UNIX like. Slackware has /dev/psaux too. Thanks again. -- Mark Hill - http://www.fero.uklinux.net Hoping not to fall in the 'it works like that in Linux' trap Using FreeBSD 4.2 in vmware 3.0, on top of Slackware Linux 8.0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 0:18: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E94137B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 00:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix ([212.30.68.29]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMQBK100.O0O for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:00:01 +0100 Message-ID: <001e01c16c1b$125e6ee0$1d441ed4@unix> From: "Martin Zibert" To: Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:13:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C16C23.72A95640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C16C23.72A95640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings.. Thanks to all of you who helped.I didn't try it yet, but i'll try it = this afternoon.BTW: i don't really know what sudo does, but anyway - = RTFM :) If there comes another problem i'll get in touche and 'till than Bye Martin ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C16C23.72A95640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C16C23.72A95640-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 12:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from foo31-249.visit.se (foo31-249.visit.se [62.119.31.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BE37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by foo31-249.visit.se (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fADKKbo04294 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:20:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:20:37 +0100 From: Martin Karlsson To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl on FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011113212037.A4165@foo31-249.visit.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <258bb29fb0.29fb0258bb@drustvo-dns.si> <20011112231605.A16432@turtle.turtle> <5.1.0.14.2.20011113110529.038222a8@mail.ideal.net.au> <20011113062941.A16899@turtle.turtle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011113062941.A16899@turtle.turtle>; from slurpcandy@btinternet.com on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 06:29:41AM +0000 X-Editor: Vim http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Mark Hill (slurpcandy@btinternet.com) wrote: > Go to www.perlmonks.org for more info. That's a quality site. And there's a great mailinglist for perl-beginners, beginners@perl.org. Read more about it at: http://www.perl.org Cheers, -- ------------------------------------------------ Martin Karlsson martin.karlsson@visit.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 15:53:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp1fb.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285DF37B418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (apparently) from scott1.despammed.com ([24.168.25.8]) by nyc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:53:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011113184550.00c2ee40@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:53:21 -0500 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Scott Subject: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, Just thought I'd pass this along. On two boxes, I was getting upon bootup, various UDMA error messages, and eventually it would say that it couldn't read it, and was dropping down to PIO. So a search on deja indicated that this is a fairly common problem. In some cases, it means the hard drive is dying, but often, the suggestion was simply to use a better quality IDE cable. I also noticed, in one machine's BIOS, that it wouldn't support some UDMA modes unless it detected a shielded, 80 pin cable. A quick search on pricewatch found me some cheap cable for 3 bucks a pop. Replacing the 40 pin in both machines with it, (and this is only ATA 33/66 cable--only after placing the order did I think, sheesh, I should have spent another few dollars and gotten the 100), my UDMA errors have gone away. As I said, judging from deja, it seems to be a very common problem, with people often suggesting that the problem is the hard drive. So, I figured I'd post this to let people know that it can often be resolved by simply putting in better quality IDE cable, that doesn't have to be expensive. There were enough hits on deja so that I think Ms. Anderson should put it in her book's next edition. :) Hope this helps someone, Scott Robbins To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 15:59:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D9B37B417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B36E618EE; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA8818ED; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Scott Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011113184550.00c2ee40@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As I said, judging from deja, it seems to be a very common problem, with > people often suggesting that the problem is the hard drive. So, I figured > I'd post this to let people know that it can often be resolved by simply > putting in better quality IDE cable, that doesn't have to be > expensive. There were enough hits on deja so that I think Ms. Anderson > should put it in her book's next edition. :) Yep... but be aware though that ANY curves in the cable can be a cause also. UDMA cables and SCSI cables especially do not like to be bent at all. If you do need to bend them (and I don't know anyone who dosen't,:) keep the curves as smooth as you can. Don't tie the cables back on them selves with wire ties. Don't bend the cable in half. Don't bend the cable to the point where you need a to crease it to hold the shape. Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 16:31:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net [24.50.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347E937B416 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from praxis ([24.51.254.189]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMRLGK00.O23; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c16ca3$990698e0$6e01a8c0@praxis> From: "Joshua" To: "Rick Hamell" , "Scott" Cc: References: Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:30:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org never had any problems with roudning them all my cables have been hand rounded. And a ATA66 cable is the same as a ATA100 cable. -Joshua ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Hamell" To: "Scott" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors > > > As I said, judging from deja, it seems to be a very common problem, with > > people often suggesting that the problem is the hard drive. So, I figured > > I'd post this to let people know that it can often be resolved by simply > > putting in better quality IDE cable, that doesn't have to be > > expensive. There were enough hits on deja so that I think Ms. Anderson > > should put it in her book's next edition. :) > > Yep... but be aware though that ANY curves in the cable can be a > cause also. UDMA cables and SCSI cables especially do not like to be bent > at all. If you do need to bend them (and I don't know anyone who > dosen't,:) keep the curves as smooth as you can. Don't tie the cables back > on them selves with wire ties. Don't bend the cable in half. Don't bend > the cable to the point where you need a to crease it to hold the shape. > > Rick > > ******************************************************************* > Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd > Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://hw.shatteredcrystal.com > ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 16:41:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67F037B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9213E18EE; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8082D18ED; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:41:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:41:17 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Joshua Cc: FreeBSD-newbies Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors In-Reply-To: <000d01c16ca3$990698e0$6e01a8c0@praxis> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > never had any problems with roudning them all my cables have been hand > rounded. And a ATA66 cable is the same as a ATA100 cable. It weakens the wires inside. Too much bending and they break. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 16:46:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net [24.50.78.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C89437B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from praxis ([24.51.254.189]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GMRM5F00.G24; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c16ca5$af1558e0$6e01a8c0@praxis> From: "Joshua" To: "Rick Hamell" Cc: "FreeBSD-newbies" References: Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:45:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Been running it for a year, and have done six of my friends cables and no problems. Even have my raid set up like that. All my benchmarks show little to no slow down and the little it does show isnt worth what the computer looks likes or how the cooling is affected with out rounded cables. -Joshua > It weakens the wires inside. Too much bending and they break. > Rick > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 16:53:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (heorot.1nova.com [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C6237B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2CD0918EE; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B44918ED; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Hamell To: Joshua Cc: FreeBSD-newbies Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors In-Reply-To: <002001c16ca5$af1558e0$6e01a8c0@praxis> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Been running it for a year, and have done six of my friends cables and no > problems. Even have my raid set up like that. All my benchmarks show > little to no slow down and the little it does show isnt worth what the > computer looks likes or how the cooling is affected with out rounded cables. Then you have been lucky. :) Granted with the stronger materials used now in the wires, they're able to withstand it more. SCSI 68 and 80 pin is still susceptiable to it these days though... the internal wires are much smaller then UDMA. Even then I'd be willing to bet your sustained transfers have slowed down quite a bit. :) But... that's just my experiences the hard way... You have to do what works for you. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 20:13:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lupa.upm.edu.ph (lupa.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB2C37B405 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by lupa.upm.edu.ph (Postfix, from userid 33) id 18ED62293; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:13:14 +0800 (PHT) To: Philip Pereira Subject: Re: Howdy! Message-ID: <1005711193.3bf1ef59eed40@lupa.upm.edu.ph> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:13:13 +0800 (PHT) From: ammag@mail.upm.edu.ph Cc: Phil Webb , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <002f01c16af0$85410250$6401a8c0@phils> <001901c16af3$e93beba0$c08901d4@wintellect.com> In-Reply-To: <001901c16af3$e93beba0$c08901d4@wintellect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 165.220.25.65 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Phil! I'm Anthony from the Philippines. I'm not that good in BSD but I guess its worth to try. Is your XF86Config OK? If it's not, try using XF86Setup. If it is, just add the line "exec startkde" in your .xinitrc file. Mabuhay! Quoting Philip Pereira : > Hey Phil, > > my name's Phil too. Any idea how to set up KDE as the default > windowmanager when you type in "startx" ? > > When I put it in my "xinit.rc" home file, I get a "$Display not > configured" > message... any ideas? > > Cheers > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Webb" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:36 PM > Subject: Howdy! > > > > Just poppin' in to say hi, so "HI"! > > > > There, I'm done with it! :) > > > > I have been piddling with FreeBSD since 4.0 but now am getting > "serious" > > > > with it. I work for a large office supply chain selling computers > etc. > > and > > occaisonally folks come in with *nix questions so I suppose I should > > have a > > reasonable grasp of it eh? > > > > I am pretty familiar with Windows (even got XP to dual boot with > FreeBSD > > > > 4.4 on this machine) and run FreeBSD on 2 machines at home. That way > if > > I > > screw one up, I have something to compare to! > > > > At any rate, I am now starting to actually get around fairly well and > am > > > > even getting dangerous. To Wit: re-compiled the kernel and got my > > onboard > > sound working (Oh happy day!) and walked around with a swolen head for > a > > > > couple of days. > > > > I have Greg Lehey's "Complete FreeBSD 3rd edition" and have Annelise > > Andersons book on order (waiting impatiently I might add!:) ). > Nothing > > beats the printed word for untangling messes. > > > > Now my goals are to get the CD drives to play music CD's as well as > burn > > > > (on the burner of course), get SAMBA working so The Wife can print > > across > > our little network and get my own dadgum printer working. > Unfortunately > > my > > HP 932c, while a great little printer doesn't support Postscript. > :( > > > > As I saw in another thread, *nix does require one to pay attention > to > > details, so thats good exercise too! To that end I suppose I'd > better > > learn to type well. At the moment the backspace key seems to be my > best > > > > friend in KDE. Once I start with vi I'm really gonna be in trouble! > :) > > > > Anyway, just a word of encouragement to the frustrated and thanks to > > those > > who help. > > > > Have Fun! > > > > phil > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 20:40:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lupa.upm.edu.ph (lupa.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC0B37B418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by lupa.upm.edu.ph (Postfix, from userid 33) id 876F42293; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:36:58 +0800 (PHT) To: Martin Zibert Subject: Re: Restricting Xwindows Message-ID: <1005712618.3bf1f4ea69c83@lupa.upm.edu.ph> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:36:58 +0800 (PHT) From: ammag@mail.upm.edu.ph Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <001e01c16c1b$125e6ee0$1d441ed4@unix> In-Reply-To: <001e01c16c1b$125e6ee0$1d441ed4@unix> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 165.220.25.65 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Martin! I'm Anthony from the Philippines. I had that same problem just recently. I have Linux for sometime before I got BSD and theses two OSes are not that different. I solved ur problem just by reading the Linux HOWTOs. If you have access to those HOWTOs, browse over it and see if that solves your problem too. Good luck! Quoting Martin Zibert : > Greetings.. > > Thanks to all of you who helped.I didn't try it yet, but i'll try it > this afternoon.BTW: i don't really know what sudo does, but anyway - > RTFM :) If there comes another problem i'll get in touche and 'till > than > > > Bye > > Martin > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 21:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8DC37B419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAE5W4T17689; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:32:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Rick Hamell" , "Joshua" Cc: "FreeBSD-newbies" Subject: RE: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:32:03 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01c16ccd$b1256d00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Rick Hamell >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:53 PM >To: Joshua >Cc: FreeBSD-newbies >Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors > > > >> Been running it for a year, and have done six of my friends cables and no >> problems. Even have my raid set up like that. All my benchmarks show >> little to no slow down and the little it does show isnt worth what the >> computer looks likes or how the cooling is affected with out >rounded cables. > > Then you have been lucky. :) Granted with the stronger materials >used now in the wires, they're able to withstand it more. SCSI 68 and 80 >pin is still susceptiable to it these days though Let me put in my $0.02 cents here.. I've rolled my own SCSI cables for years - the ones they sell don't generally have enough connectors and not in the right places for the systems I've done. In my experience, I've never seen a failure on a ribbon cable caused by creases or bends or any such. Now, granted, if you repeatedly bend a cable back and forth over and over and over along one axis you will eventually break it. But copper is much more flexible than steel is and it streches too so those little wires are fairly well protected and resistant to this. However, what I have seen many times and has repeatedly dogged me is bad connectors. Sometimes it's the back of the connector where the cable is crimped in. Sometimes the failure is inside of the connector where it plugs onto the pins sticking out. The original 50 pin rectangular SCSI connectors and the smaller IDE connectors had lots of problems with their little square pins and bad contacts where the pin went into the connector. This is why when they redesigned those connectors for wide SCSI they made the pins more flattish, it lets you increase pressure on the pin. But the smaller form factor makes it even easier to bend pins if the connector isn't inserted exactly straight and almost impossible to bend them back without snapping them off. Also the crimps in the backs are even worse sources of trouble. Pulling cables out of the back of the drives by pulling on the cable and not the connector is a big contributor, unfortunately with the original SCSI and IDE connectors there wasn't anything on the connector to grab, so you had to pull it by the cable. I have SCSI cables in my junk pile that look _perfect_ but will give data errors when plugged in, and I've fixed many by cutting off the connector and recrimping a new one on, of course you can't do this when the connector is in the _middle_ of the cable. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 13 23:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dev.tpath.com (dsl081-104-194.den1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.104.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5ED37B417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsva (ppp-1-24.cvx1.telinco.net [212.1.136.24]) by dev.tpath.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id WZJL33A8; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:19:07 -0700 From: usadomains82@rn.com Reply-To: 5467@c4.com Subject: USA Pride. Get .USA Domains! 97390 Message-Id: <20011114071545.1D5ED37B417@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:15:45 -0800 (PST) To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The latest domain name extension has arrived .USA!!! It's the fresh, new, exciting web address that is taking the world by storm. Who wants to be .com when you can now be .USA Register your .USA domain name today exclusively at: http://www.dotusa.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To be taken off the mailing list please click below: http://62.253.196.189/unsubscribe.phtml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 14 10:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54FF537B417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:51:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from host213-123-75-163.dialup.lineone.co.uk (HELO jmdoliv) (213.123.75.163) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 18:51:25 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: jmdupx@yahoo.com To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 18:50:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 40 and 80 pin cable and UDMA errors Cc: Message-ID: <3BF2BCFE.15084.352004D@localhost> In-reply-to: <000d01c16ca3$990698e0$6e01a8c0@praxis> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org definitely agree with Ted's post about bad connectors much more likely to give data errors than a twisted cable - you only have to look inside a typical slimline desktop case PC to see that sometimes there is just no choice about bending a cable, and the same goes in most laptops too Jean-Mark jmdupx@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 0: 6:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.dc.ctc.ad.jp (mail.dc.ctc.ad.jp [210.235.220.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D012437B418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19761 invoked by uid 0); 16 Nov 2001 08:06:37 -0000 Received: from duck.dc.ctc.ad.jp (210.235.220.131) by mail.dc.ctc.ad.jp with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 08:06:37 -0000 Received: by duck.dc.ctc.ad.jp (8.11.3/3.7W) id fAG86ar28599 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:06:36 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:08:18 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNyxCPCEhQmdKZRsoQg==?= To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20011116170758.895C.KUWAMURA@dc.ctc.ad.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 1: 9:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from kitkat.hotpop.com (kitkat.hotpop.com [204.57.55.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AB037B418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotpop.com (unknown [204.57.55.31]) by kitkat.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 56C0533280 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pavilion (mcns176.docsis66.singa.pore.net [202.156.66.176]) by zagnut.hotpop.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDF450017 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <001401c16e7e$34bde780$b0429cca@pavilion> From: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" To: Subject: Questions Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:08:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16EC1.4167CDF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16EC1.4167CDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody, i have got an query here. I would like to know if there is any search = engine softwares in the freeBSD ports? QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided we fall Best regard, Lim Ting Ping http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16EC1.4167CDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everybody,
i have got an query here. I would like to know if = there is any=20 search engine softwares in the freeBSD ports?
 
 
QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided = we=20 fall
Best regard,
Lim Ting Ping
http://www.pingcrisis.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16EC1.4167CDF0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 4:45:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA73B37B418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.254.67.120]) by femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011116124550.VUGD13029.femail40.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 04:45:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3BF50A3F.673F7F50@home.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:44:48 -0700 From: Joe Warner Organization: nunyabiz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Questions References: <001401c16e7e$34bde780$b0429cca@pavilion> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------954AEB67FAE1522DD9A1F8F5" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------954AEB67FAE1522DD9A1F8F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" wrote: > Hello everybody,i have got an query here. I would like to know if > there is any search engine softwares in the freeBSD ports? QOTD: > Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided we fall > Best regard, > Lim Ting Ping > http://www.pingcrisis.com There's /usr/ports/www/udmsearch which is now known as mnoGoSearch I would recommend that you read the installation instructions: http://www.mnogosearch.org/install.html ..and download/install the latest version: http://www.mnogosearch.org/Download/mnogosearch-3.1.19.tar.gz I've installed it on our intranet at work and it was fairly simple to configure and has worked quite well for us. -- Joe Warner Daemon News Bringing BSD Together Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Daily Daemon News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ --------------954AEB67FAE1522DD9A1F8F5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "pingcrisis.com\\Ting Ping\\" wrote:
Hello everybody,i have got an query here. I would like to know if there is any search engine softwares in the freeBSD ports?  QOTD: Knowledge is power, United we stand, divided we fall
Best regard,
Lim Ting Ping
http://www.pingcrisis.com


There's /usr/ports/www/udmsearch which is now known as
mnoGoSearch <http://www.mnogosearch.org/>

I would recommend that you read the installation instructions:

http://www.mnogosearch.org/install.html

..and download/install the latest version:

http://www.mnogosearch.org/Download/mnogosearch-3.1.19.tar.gz

I've installed it on our intranet at work and it was fairly simple to configure
and has worked quite well for us.
 
 
  

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  --------------954AEB67FAE1522DD9A1F8F5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 5:32:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CE337B405 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.cs.utwente.nl (zeus.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.12]) by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18482 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:32:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from theatre.cs.utwente.nl. by zeus.cs.utwente.nl (8.10.2+Sun/csrelay-Sol1.4/RB) id fAGDWcJ27405; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:32:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from vanrein@localhost) by theatre.cs.utwente.nl. (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id fAGDWaI13496; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:32:36 +0100 (MET) From: Rick van Rein Message-Id: <200111161332.fAGDWaI13496@theatre.cs.utwente.nl.> Subject: Booting without BIOS support To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:32:35 +0100 (MET) X-My-Coolest-Hack: http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram -> Exploit broken RAM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I installed FreeBSD on a SCSI disk, to replace the Linux system that was on it before. The SCSI controller I use is supported by FreeBSD, but it does not come with boot options, so I must use a boot floppy, and under Linux that always worked fine. To my surprise however, I was not offered (or? I did not find?) a chance to create a boot disk. Is there a place where I can download one or two floppies to start FreeBSD from? I have the full 4.4 CD set but it's not on there, is it? Thanx for any help! Rick van Rein. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 10:25: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocis.ocis.net (ocis.ocis.net [209.52.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473FE37B416 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from darkside (dial-263.ocis.net [209.52.174.97]) by ocis.ocis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19707; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:24:56 -0800 From: "Freddie Cash" Organization: PhoenixTek Consulting To: "pingcrisis.comTTing Ping\"" Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:24:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Questions Reply-To: fcash@bigfoot.com Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3BF4E94D.22710.2C33342@localhost> In-reply-to: <001401c16e7e$34bde780$b0429cca@pavilion> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello everybody, > i have got an query here. I would like to know if there is any search > engine softwares in the freeBSD ports? First, this is the wrong forum for technical-type questions. The correct forum for those would be the freebsd-questions list. Be sure to check the archives before posting though. This forum is for discussing the newbie experience, our ups and downs of getting to know FreeBSD. We can help you phrase a question to be posted to the -questions list, but do you really want newbies answering your questions? :) Second, have you searched the ports tree yet? "man ports" to find out how, or use the web version: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ Cheers, Freddie PhoenixTek Consulting fcash@bigfoot.com Unix / Networking Services (250) 314-4029 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 19:10:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8332237B418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fAH3A1654787 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200111170310.fAH3A1654787@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 16 20:22:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph (kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE73A37B418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 20:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from kulog.upm.edu.ph [165.220.24.62] (ammag) by kulog.upm.edu.ph with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 164vnw-0001le-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:06:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:06:03 +0800 (PHT) From: "Anthony M. Magsino" X-Sender: ammag@kulog.upm.edu.ph To: Rick van Rein Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Booting without BIOS support In-Reply-To: <200111161332.fAGDWaI13496@theatre.cs.utwente.nl.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Rick, This is Anthony from the Philippines. Try copying *.img's (mfs.img and kernel.img, i think) from CD1 unto DOS formatted floppies. You should be able to boot from them. Good luck! On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Rick van Rein wrote: > Hi, > > I installed FreeBSD on a SCSI disk, to replace the Linux system that was on > it before. > > The SCSI controller I use is supported by FreeBSD, but it does not come > with boot options, so I must use a boot floppy, and under Linux that always > worked fine. > > To my surprise however, I was not offered (or? I did not find?) a chance to > create a boot disk. > > Is there a place where I can download one or two floppies to start FreeBSD > from? I have the full 4.4 CD set but it's not on there, is it? > > > Thanx for any help! > > Rick van Rein. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 17 1:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD3437B405 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA77679; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:08:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:08:34 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: "Anthony M. Magsino" Cc: Rick van Rein , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting without BIOS support In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Anthony M. Magsino wrote: > Hi Rick, > > This is Anthony from the Philippines. Try copying *.img's (mfs.img > and kernel.img, i think) from CD1 unto DOS formatted floppies. You should > be able to boot from them. Good luck! The two files you need are called kern.flp and mfsroot.flp; they're in the \floppies directory on CD1. (Don't use boot.flp; it's for 2.88 MB floppies.) You want to create the two floppies with the commands: fdimage kern.flp a: and fdimage mfsroot.flp a: The fdimage.exe program is in the \tools directory on CD1, and of course you need to provide full path names. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 17 21:10:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from m20.unixathome.org (m20.unixathome.org [216.187.106.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CDA37B416; Sat, 17 Nov 2001 21:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by m20.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 87B267A72; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-10-28 - 2001-11-17 Message-Id: <20011118051003.87B267A72@m20.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:10:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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