From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 9 3: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from FLA9Aaa003.fko.mesh.ad.jp (FLA9Aaa003.fko.mesh.ad.jp [61.193.66.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 998B737B41C for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 03:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011209.1944240894.babaq@haisin-010002-if.syo-ten.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 19:44:27 +0900 From: haisin-010002@if.syo-ten.com Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCkXQlaSVWISYlXiU4JUQlL5BzGyhC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mail-Agent: BSMTP DLL Jan 13 2001 by Tatsuo Baba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B$"$C$?$+$$29$b$j;}$C$F$^$9$+!)(B $B4($$?4$rKd$a$F$/$l$k$=$s$J=P2q$$$,$3$3$K$O$"$j$^$9!#(B $B$?$a$7$K$"$J$?$N5$;}$A$r=q$-9~$s$G$4$i$s(B $B4j$$$O$+$J$i$:3p$$$^$9$h!*(B Http://www.if-j.net $B=P2q$$7O%5%$%H!V%$%U!W$G$9!#(B $B$"$J$?$KKbK!$r%F%/%^%/%^%d%3%s‘{(B $B=w@-L5NA$5$i$K%-%c%C%7%g%P%C%/!*(B $BCK@-$b#3#0%]%$%s%HL5NACf!*(B $B7HBSEEOC$+$4<+Bp$NEEOCHV9f$GEPO?$7$F$/$@$5$$!#(B $B%"%I%l%9EyHs8x3+$G$9$N$G0B?4$7$F$4MxMQ$/$@$5$$!#(B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 9 12:21:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1BB37B417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix ([212.30.69.220]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GO3ECE00.DDC for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:02:38 +0100 Message-ID: <007701c180ee$644e7640$dc451ed4@unix> From: "Martin Zibert" To: Subject: /dev/dsp device busy Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 21:14:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C180F6.84DCAF50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C180F6.84DCAF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings.. I have a little problem with running xmms program.My sound card is = running perfectly so that's not the problem.I installed xmms from ports = and when i run it, it says that /dev/dsp device is busy.At this point i = should say that i'm running Xwindows and KDE window manager.I think that = /dev/dsp device is busy because KDE is using that device, but i'm not = sure.But i'm a little confused because this device is busy even when i'm = not running Xwindows.Can anyone help me? Hmm.. a did "ln -v /dev/dsp /dev/null" and xmms worked but when i = restarted Xwindows it stopped working.I would like to know what to do, = that xmms will work without typing all that comands. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance. Martin ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C180F6.84DCAF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings..
 
I have a little problem with running = xmms=20 program.My sound card is running perfectly so that's not the problem.I = installed=20 xmms from ports and when i run it, it says that /dev/dsp device is = busy.At this=20 point i should say that i'm running Xwindows and KDE window manager.I = think that=20 /dev/dsp device is busy because KDE is using that device, but i'm not = sure.But=20 i'm a little confused because this device is busy even when i'm not = running=20 Xwindows.Can anyone help me?
Hmm.. a did "ln -v /dev/dsp /dev/null" = and xmms=20 worked but when i restarted Xwindows it stopped working.I would like to = know=20 what to do, that xmms will work without typing all that = comands.
Any suggestions ?
Thanks in advance.
Martin
------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C180F6.84DCAF50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 9 12:25:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from integral.e-boxen.com (integral.e-boxen.com [209.107.108.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7E4E37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1526 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2001 20:09:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO business-aid.net) (150.0.6.251) by integral.e-boxen.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2001 20:09:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3C13D6DF.B6D0313@business-aid.net> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 13:25:51 -0800 From: joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org" Subject: error ethostbyname Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CEEBC535E1927F96ADD3B591" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------CEEBC535E1927F96ADD3B591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi again i put apache in my computer on my freebsd computer and when i went to un it it game me nothing ... so when i went to check the http-error.log file it said 9)(ALERT) mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname ("example.ab.hsia.telus.net") so what should or was sappose to do to not have this happen! thanx joe --------------CEEBC535E1927F96ADD3B591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi again i put apache in my computer on my freebsd computer and when i went to un it it game me nothing ... so when i went to check the http-error.log file  it said
9)(ALERT) mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname ("example.ab.hsia.telus.net")
so what should or was sappose to do to not have this happen!
thanx joe --------------CEEBC535E1927F96ADD3B591-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 9 13:30:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com [24.29.99.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D398C37B41C for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 13:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from scott1.nyc.rr.com (24-168-25-8.nyc.rr.com [24.168.25.8]) by nycsmtp3out.rdc-nyc.rr.com (8.12.1/Road Runner SMTP Server 1.0) with ESMTP id fB9LTlrx002919; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:29:52 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011209162340.00c330d8@pop-server.nyc.rr.com> X-Sender: scottro@pop-server.nyc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 16:29:26 -0500 To: joe , "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org" From: Scott Subject: Re: error ethostbyname In-Reply-To: <3C13D6DF.B6D0313@business-aid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 13:25 2001/12/09 -0800, joe wrote: >hi again i put apache in my computer on my freebsd computer and when i >went to un it it game me nothing ... so when i went to check the >http-error.log file it said >9)(ALERT) mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname >("example.ab.hsia.telus.net") >so what should or was sappose to do to not have this happen! >thanx joe In your /etc/hosts file, you'll have to add your machine's IP address. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 5:19:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from artemis.ee.teiath.gr (artemis.ee.teiath.gr [195.130.107.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F20337B419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from aristoteles ([195.130.100.172]) by artemis.ee.teiath.gr (8.11.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id fBAEBK517507 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:11:21 +0200 Message-ID: <001901c1817d$1f7c00c0$ac6482c3@ee.teiath.gr> From: "Andreou Al." To: Subject: IBM PC Server 310 sound Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:18:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all... I have an old IBM PC Server 310 (a P133 machine) with 3.4-RELEASE (in a few days this will be 4.4-RELEASE). It has onboard-sound, but I don't know what chip (only it's on 530h, irq 10). Do you know which driver may support it? I don't know where to start looking. Thanks, Alexandros. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 10:55:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from artemis.ee.teiath.gr (artemis.ee.teiath.gr [195.130.107.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41AB37B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from aristoteles (ppp3.ee.teiath.gr [195.130.107.55]) by artemis.ee.teiath.gr (8.11.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id fBAJlM518762 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:47:22 +0200 Message-ID: <002501c181ac$109bf9a0$376b82c3@ee.teiath.gr> From: "Andreou Al." To: References: <20011210170337.59753.qmail@web21103.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 310 sound Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:54:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > hi, try looking at the output of dmesg(8), it will > show all the devices detected.... Oh, yes, forgot to mention that dmesg doesn't help at all ;-) . -- aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 11:28:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (g38.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA31E37B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from k (petre@petre [192.168.10.5]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBAJSfx14959 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:28:41 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Petre Bandac Organization: g38 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: bash newbie question Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:28:36 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01121021283600.00268@k> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just installed freebsd 4.4 and started playing with it, in the idea that it would look similar to linux {to which I'm quite familiar, since I use it from almost an year] however, I had the surprise to see that whatever shell I choose, the tab key doesn't act like in the bash from linux - I mean I want it to extend the keyword/keywords so I can choose the command I want to issue. are there any settings that I can modify to make the shell look 100% like the bash from linux or the tab key won't be here so "helpful" like in linux ? thanks in advance petre -- 9:23pm up 20 min, 1 user, load average: 0.50, 0.57, 0.38 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 11:37:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A7D37B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1F44; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:37:14 -0800 Message-ID: <3C150EE7.6C1DAF0@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:37:11 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash newbie question References: <01121021283600.00268@k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Petre Bandac wrote: > are there any settings that I can modify to make the shell look 100% like > the bash from linux or the tab key won't be here so "helpful" like in linux ? Why not just use bash? Tcsh is nice, very nice compared to some shells. But it doesn't have the whiz-bang features of bash. And it sucks for scripting. Bash is on your CD, or build it from ports. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 12:17:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from artemis.ee.teiath.gr (artemis.ee.teiath.gr [195.130.107.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B267637B41C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from aristoteles (ppp3.ee.teiath.gr [195.130.107.55]) by artemis.ee.teiath.gr (8.11.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id fBAL95518983 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:09:05 +0200 Message-ID: <00a501c181b7$7ae96940$376b82c3@ee.teiath.gr> From: "Andreou Al." To: References: <20011210192617.20677.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: IBM PC Server 310 sound Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:15:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > hi, if its possible, please send me your dmesg(8) > output, and the is the sound card ess/sb compatible? The 310 machine isn't connected to Internet, and I'm really bored writing down everything and then typing it in a mail. In a few days I'll hook it up in the ee.teiath.gr network and I'll deal with its soundcard again :-) . Hiten Pandya, do you have a similar machine? --aa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 16:14:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lute.willinet.net (ps85sux.willinet.net [205.163.104.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E740637B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 16:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lute@localhost) by lute.willinet.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id fBANFLF02048 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:15:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lute) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:15:21 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: /dev/agpgart? Message-ID: <20011210171521.A2018@willinet.net> Reply-To: lute@willinet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, When I try startx it runs throgh the cycle, but errors out. Looking through things tells me that /dev/agpgart is not configured. The question I have is can anyone tell me where I can find the info on how to configure it? There does not seem to be any man or info pages on it. Have a feeling that this is all that's holding me back from getting it up and running. -- Lute ...on the other hand, you have five fingers... (courtesy of #1 son) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 17: 0:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from remus.tbnets.com (dsl092-156-002.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.156.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F13437B416 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.tbnets.com (dsl092-156-025.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.156.25]) by remus.tbnets.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id fBB10A325019 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:00:11 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:01:31 UTC From: Wayne Ringling Subject: Question on raid during setup of freebsd 4.4 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: Organization: Terabyte Networks X-Mailer: TradeClient 0.9.0 [en_US] Linux 2.4.10-64GB-SMP X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Accept-Language: en_US Sensitivity: Public-Document MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to change my nids box to run freebsd. I normally use Linux and run several servers running SuSE and Gentoo linux in various configs. In the past I have either setup the raid when I formatted the box during install or after install by hand. I have noticed that FreeBSD handles raid much differently than Linux does. I have queried FreeBsd and raid on google and got a few links back but my question is. Does the installer allow raid volumes to be setup during the install. I want to run 4.4 with snort and demarc. Any othe pointers greatly apprecaited. Wayne R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 21:22:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from integral.e-boxen.com (integral.e-boxen.com [209.107.108.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC7BC37B417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1772 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2001 05:06:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO business-aid.net) (150.0.6.251) by integral.e-boxen.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2001 05:06:15 -0000 Message-ID: <3C15A62B.26E458CD@business-aid.net> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:22:35 -0800 From: joe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org" , Barkley Vowk Subject: set up dsn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org could you point me where i could go to learn how to sent up a dns server thank you joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 10 21:26:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from omta05.mta.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF0737B41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta05.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B934B48CD6 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id AFAF32756; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:26:42 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: Steve White To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: broken link Reply-To: sleve@emailaccount.com X-Originating-Ip: [66.76.129.108] Message-Id: <20011211052642.AFAF32756@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your link to: The Complete FreeBSD http://www.osd.bsdi.com/titles/freebsd/bsdcomp_bkx.phtml is BROKEN _____________________________________________________________ A free email account your friends will never forget! Get YOURNAME@EmailAccount.com at http://www.emailaccount.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 0: 5:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from FLA9Aaa003.fko.mesh.ad.jp (FLA9Aaa003.fko.mesh.ad.jp [61.193.66.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AB3D37B419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:05:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011211.1659140285.babaq@haisin-000012-neko.gasuki.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:59:17 +0900 From: haisin-000012@neko.gasuki.com Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCkXQlaSVWISYlXiU4JUQlL5BzGyhC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mail-Agent: BSMTP DLL Jan 13 2001 by Tatsuo Baba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B$"$C$?$+$$29$b$j;}$C$F$^$9$+!)(B $B4($$?4$rKd$a$F$/$l$k$=$s$J=P2q$$$,$3$3$K$O$"$j$^$9!#(B $B$?$a$7$K$"$J$?$N5$;}$A$r=q$-9~$s$G$4$i$s(B $B4j$$$O$+$J$i$:3p$$$^$9$h!*(B Http://www.if-j.net $B=P2q$$7O%5%$%H!V%$%U!W$G$9!#(B $B$"$J$?$KKbK!$r%F%/%^%/%^%d%3%s‘{(B $B=w@-L5NA$5$i$K%-%c%C%7%g%P%C%/!*(B $BCK@-$b#3#0%]%$%s%HL5NACf!*(B $B7HBSEEOC$+$4<+Bp$NEEOCHV9f$GEPO?$7$F$/$@$5$$!#(B $B%"%I%l%9EyHs8x3+$G$9$N$G0B?4$7$F$4MxMQ$/$@$5$$!#(B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 1:55:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (catv-193-231-237-197.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B655937B417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:55:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from k (petre@petre [192.168.10.5]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBB9tHx15744 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:55:17 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Petre Bandac Organization: g38 Subject: Re: bash newbie question Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:55:04 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <01121021283600.00268@k> <3C150EE7.6C1DAF0@acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <3C150EE7.6C1DAF0@acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01121111545202.00308@k> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what I ment is if I can make bash look 100% like the linux bash it's already installed - however, what bother me is that the auto-completion of the command doesn't work like in linux - I mean if there I typed "tr" and TAB I got the commands starting with "tr" [tr traceroute trap troff true tryaffix], while here I must type "trace" and TAB and only then I get the traceroute. must I understand that this is the only auto-completion of the command I shall get in freebsd ? also - I was used to have some colors on the screen after a :-) so, resumig, the question I have for those of you more experienced in freebsd is: must I expect a 100% similarity in bash freebsd-linux or the port to bsd is quite "incomplete" ? sorry for bothering you with such minor problems, petre On Monday 10 December 2001 21:37, David Johnson wrote using one of his keyboards: > Petre Bandac wrote: > > are there any settings that I can modify to make the shell look > > 100% like the bash from linux or the tab key won't be here so "helpful" > > like in linux ? > > Why not just use bash? Tcsh is nice, very nice compared to some shells. > But it doesn't have the whiz-bang features of bash. And it sucks for > scripting. > > Bash is on your CD, or build it from ports. > > David -- 11:46am up 10 min, 1 user, load average: 0.29, 0.20, 0.10 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 3:26:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825737B41B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBBBPcC15314; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:26:04 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001121112242874:3522 ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:24:28 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBBBW8n16883; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:32:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:32:08 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash newbie question Message-ID: <20011211123208.F10115@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Petre Bandac , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org References: <01121021283600.00268@k> <3C150EE7.6C1DAF0@acuson.com> <01121111545202.00308@k> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01121111545202.00308@k> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 12/11/2001 12:24:28 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 12/11/2001 12:25:23 PM, Serialize complete at 12/11/2001 12:25:23 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Petre Bandac > Subject: Re: bash newbie question > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:55:04 +0200 > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > what I ment is if I can make bash look 100% like the linux bash > it's already installed - however, what bother me is that the auto-completion > of the command doesn't work like in linux - I mean if there I typed "tr" and > TAB I got the commands starting with "tr" [tr traceroute trap > troff true tryaffix], while here I must type "trace" and TAB > and only then I get the traceroute. > > must I understand that this is the only auto-completion of the command I > shall get in freebsd ? no. it is fully configurable. your Linux distro probably ships with a bit tweaked dotfiles. You can try to copy the .profile (or whatever it's called -- I don't use bash) from your Linux machine to the FreeBSD one, and after sourcing it you should have exactly the same shell on both systems. > also - I was used to have some colors on the screen after a :-) I believe you want to check man ls. > so, resumig, the question I have for those of you more experienced in freebsd > is: must I expect a 100% similarity in bash freebsd-linux or the port to bsd > is quite "incomplete" ? you can expect 100% similarity... If you use the same configuration on both machines. HTH -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 12:26PM up 48 days, 23:09, 13 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.09, 0.03 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 7: 1:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D38A537B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.22) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2001 15:01:00 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'joe'" , , "'Barkley Vowk'" Subject: RE: set up dsn Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:00:50 +0500 Message-ID: <002701c18254$a48e0880$16c801ca@warhawk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <3C15A62B.26E458CD@business-aid.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try [http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html] Yah, it's linuxdoc, I know, but it works with only one difference: The config files live in /etc/named. Much better than having half in /etc/ and half in /var/ eh? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of joe > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:23 AM > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Barkley Vowk > Subject: set up dsn > > > could you point me where i could go to learn how to sent up a > dns server > > thank you > joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 7: 3:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76D5437B405 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 07:03:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.22) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2001 15:03:48 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'Haikal Saadh'" , "'joe'" , , "'Barkley Vowk'" Subject: RE: set up dsn Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:03:39 +0500 Message-ID: <002801c18255$08894750$16c801ca@warhawk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <002701c18254$a48e0880$16c801ca@warhawk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgot onething..some options can also be set in /etc/rc.conf. see the rc.conf manpage. And the named man page. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Haikal Saadh > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:01 PM > To: 'joe'; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; 'Barkley Vowk' > Subject: RE: set up dsn > > > Try [http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html] > > Yah, it's linuxdoc, I know, but it works with only one > difference: The config files live in /etc/named. Much better > than having half in /etc/ and half in /var/ eh? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of joe > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:23 AM > > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Barkley Vowk > > Subject: set up dsn > > > > > > could you point me where i could go to learn how to sent up a > > dns server > > > > thank you > > joe > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 8:34: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ocis.ocis.net (ocis.ocis.net [209.52.173.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273F237B419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from phoenix (dial-153.ocis.net [209.52.175.143]) by ocis.ocis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30479; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:33:54 -0800 From: "Freddie Cash" Organization: PhoenixTek Consulting To: Petre Bandac Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:35:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: bash newbie question Reply-To: fcash@bigfoot.com Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C15C56B.32229.99DD7D9@localhost> References: <3C150EE7.6C1DAF0@acuson.com> In-reply-to: <01121111545202.00308@k> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > what I ment is if I can make bash look 100% like the linux bash > it's already installed - however, what bother me is that the > auto-completion of the command doesn't work like in linux - I mean if > there I typed "tr" and TAB I got the commands starting with "tr" [tr > traceroute trap > troff true tryaffix], while here I must type "trace" and > TAB > and only then I get the traceroute. Hit TAB twice to get the full list. The first time you hit TAB, BASH2 completes as much of the command as possible. If there is more than one command with those letters, then you have to hit TAB again to get the list. This is also the *default* setting for BASH2 in Linux. I have not used BASH1 in a long time, so I do not know if the default is the same or different. If you want to change the default behaviour, then read the man page. > must I understand that this is the only auto-completion of the command > I shall get in freebsd ? > > also - I was used to have some colors on the screen after a :-) Read the man page for ls and set your colours. Or, install the gnuls port and create aliases like "alias ls=gnuls --color" and so forth. > so, resumig, the question I have for those of you more experienced in > freebsd is: must I expect a 100% similarity in bash freebsd-linux or > the port to bsd is quite "incomplete" ? Bash is Bash is Bash, no matter what system it is running on. That's the beauty of portable code. You just have to do a lot of reading to figure out why things work a certain way, and to change it. Cheers, Freddie PhoenixTek Consulting fcash@bigfoot.com Unix / Networking Services (250) 314-4029 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 8:43:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moon.drustvo-dns.si (mail.drustvo-dns.si [193.77.201.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBF937B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix ([194.249.1.42]) by moon.drustvo-dns.si (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GO6TM300.JEX for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:25:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001701c18262$51d7af20$2a01f9c2@unix> From: "Martin Zibert" To: Subject: no such device 'ad' ?? Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:22:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C18268.690CA2D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C18268.690CA2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings again.. I just got FreeBSD 4.4 and i installed it on my box.The instalation went = fine and recompiling kernel too.But when i restarted my computer it = showed an error at boot: Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a no such device 'ad' setrootbyname failed ffs_mountroot:can't find rootvp Root mount failed: 6 ... What is wrong?I used the same kernel config in 4.3 release and it didn't = show this.Should i add device ad0 in kernel conf or smth? Please help. Thanks in advance. Martin ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C18268.690CA2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Greetings again..
     
    I just got FreeBSD 4.4 and i installed = it on my=20 box.The instalation went fine and recompiling kernel too.But when i = restarted my=20 computer it showed an error at boot:
    Mounting root from = ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
    no such device 'ad'
    setrootbyname failed
    ffs_mountroot:can't find = rootvp
    Root mount failed: 6
    ...
     
    What is wrong?I used the same kernel = config in 4.3=20 release and it didn't show this.Should i add device ad0 in kernel conf = or=20 smth?
    Please help. Thanks in = advance.
     
    Martin
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Удалить свой адрес из списка подписчиков Вы можете, отослав письмо по адресу unsubscribe_sem@cscorp.com.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 14:38:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.org (host-64-110-64-19.interpacket.net [64.110.64.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BA6937B419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) From: "JAMES EMEKA" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:31:16 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: IMPORTANT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20011211223808.4BA6937B419@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From:Dr.James Emeka FAX:44-7799289001(satellite phone). Lagos-Nigeria. Attn:President/Ceo. STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL RE: TRANSFER OF US$21.5 MILLION (TWENTY ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND US DOLLARS ONLY). I know this email will reach you as a surprise, but need not to worry as we are using the only secured and confidential medium available to seek for foreign assistance/partnership in a business transaction which is of mutual benefit. I am a member of the Federal Government of Nigeria Contract Award and Monitoring Committee in the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporatio(NNPC). Sometime ago, a contract was awarded to a foreign firm in NNPC by my Committee. This contract was over invoiced to the tune of US$21.5M. U.S. Dollars. This was done deliberately. The over-invoicing was a deal by my committee to benefit from the project. We now want to transfer this money which is in a suspense Account with NNPC into any Overseas Account which we expect you to provide for us. SHARE: - For assisting us in this deal, you will be entitled to 30% of the money,60% will be for me and my partners while 10% has been mapped out from the total sum to cover any expenses that maybe incurred by us during the course of this transfer, both locally and international expenses. It may interest you to know that a similar transaction was carried out with one MR. PATRICE MILLER, President of Crane International Trading Corp. of 153 East 57th St., 28th floor, NY10022, TEL:(212)-308-7788 AND TELEX: 6731689. The deal was concluded and all covering documents were forwarded to MR. MILLER to authenticate the claim. Once the funds were transferred, MR. MILLER presented his Bank with all the legal documents and remitted the whole funds to another Bank Account and disappeared completely. My colleagues were shattered, as such opportunities do not come all the time. 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Therefore,when the business is successfully concluded we shall through our same connections withdraw all documents used from all the concerned Government Ministries for 100% security. We are ordinary civil servants and we will not want to miss this once in a lifetime opportunity to get rich. We want this money to be transferred to your nominated bank for us, before the present Democratic Government start Auditing all Federal Government owned Parastatals. Please contact me immediately through my fax number whether or not you are interested in this deal.If you are not,it will enable me scout for another foreign partner to carry out this deal. But where you are interested, send the required documents aforementioned herein through my above fax number, as time is of the essence in this business. I wait in anticipation of your fullest co-operation. Yours faithfully, Dr.James Emeka. NB:Please when dialing my fax number, don't include 234,just dail your country access number+44-7799289001. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 14:45:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (g38.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4698D37B405 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from k (petre@petre [192.168.10.5]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBBMjax16881 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:45:36 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Petre Bandac Organization: g38 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: oops I did it again :-) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:45:37 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01121200453701.00174@k> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't supporting it :-) now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) read-write. thanks in advance petre -- 12:43am up 5 min, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.24, 0.11 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 11 17:44: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp001pub.verizon.net (smtp001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D965C37B419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from gte.net (tamqfl1-ar1-240-124.tamqfl1.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.240.124]) by smtp001pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id fBC1hkI23504 Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:43:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C16B67F.88F6AB89@gte.net> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:44:31 -0500 From: Tom Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JAMES EMEKA , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IMPORTANT References: <20011211223808.4BA6937B419@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeeze, do these con artists at least look at who they're mailing to? Not the oldest scam, but getting more prevalent, used to get it faxed only! Tom C, Tampa JAMES EMEKA wrote: > > From:Dr.James Emeka > FAX:44-7799289001(satellite phone). > Lagos-Nigeria. > > Attn:President/Ceo. > > STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS PROPOSAL > RE: TRANSFER OF US$21.5 MILLION (TWENTY ONE MILLION, > FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND US DOLLARS ONLY). > > I know this email will reach you as a surprise, but > need not to worry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 9:39:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE4337B416 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:39:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00266; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:38:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) In-Reply-To: <01121200453701.00174@k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't supporting it > :-) > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to fstab; > what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the partition (I'm > talking about the root partition /) read-write. > > thanks in advance > > petre > I think typing mount -u / should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a line editor, however, because for those you need to mount your /usr file system. Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. So you need to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as required for file system and mountpoint). It may help to type /bin/cat /etc/fstab so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen to look at to get the info on the file systems. Annelise If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you may have to type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 13:35:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (catv-193-231-237-197.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B4D37B416 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:35:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from k (petre@petre [192.168.10.5]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBCLZAj02141; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:35:11 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Petre Bandac Organization: g38 To: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:35:05 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01121223350503.00192@k> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may praise myself I got the idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very much for your help. one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel stuff is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota support and other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the sources ? [stupid question, isn't it ? :-)] now the last thing I need to config is the X Window and I can say I got a fully functionable freebsd box ... thanks again, petre On Wednesday 12 December 2001 19:38, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of his keyboards: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't supporting > > it > > > > :-) > > > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to > > fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the > > partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) read-write. > > > > thanks in advance > > > > petre > > I think typing mount -u / > should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a line editor, > however, because for those you need to mount your /usr file system. > Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. So you need > to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as required for file > system and mountpoint). It may help to type > /bin/cat /etc/fstab > so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen to look at > to get the info on the file systems. > > Annelise > > If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you may have to > type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / -- 11:30pm up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.31, 0.14 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 14:20:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-5.ig.com.br (smtp-5.ig.com.br [200.226.132.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0053837B42F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14165 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2001 22:18:38 -0000 Received: from 226.235.226.200.in-addr.arpa.ig.com.br (HELO TmpStr) (200.226.235.226) by smtp-5.ig.com.br with SMTP; 12 Dec 2001 22:18:38 -0000 Reply-To: "Forno de Microondas" From: "Forno de Microondas" To: "" Organization: Forno de Microondas X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Subject: Agora jб existe uma proteзгo para o seu MICROONDAS. 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Fortes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 14:29:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D51C37B416 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.46.72]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2DF0; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:29:28 -0800 Message-ID: <3C17DA46.90A52BB2@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:29:26 -0800 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) References: <01121223350503.00192@k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Petre Bandac wrote: > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel stuff > is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota support and > other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the sources ? [stupid > question, isn't it ? :-)] You're going to have to shrug off your laziness and RTFM anyway. That's because the FreeBSD kernel gets build differently than the Linux kernel. But have no fear! There is a complete and easy to understand chapter on building the kernel in the handbook. And it even tells you where the sources are :-) (IMHO, building the FreeBSD kernel is much simpler than building the Linux kernel) David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 16:13:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD0A37B420 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA01833; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:12:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:12:53 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) In-Reply-To: <01121223350503.00192@k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may praise myself I got the > idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very much for your help. > > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel stuff > is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota support and > other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the sources ? [stupid > question, isn't it ? :-)] sources are in /usr/src; config files are in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, and you'll need to add stuff from LINT to GENERIC (copy GENERIC first to a new name, and edit the copy) but see the handbook for step-by-step instructions (they're in my book, too); I think quotas need something from LINT but I'm not sure; you probably need to enable something in rc.conf as well overall it's different from linux and I'd avoid making too many analogies Annnelise > now the last thing I need to config is the X Window and I can say I got a > fully functionable freebsd box ... > > thanks again, > > petre > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 19:38, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of his > keyboards: > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't supporting > > > it > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to > > > fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the > > > partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) read-write. > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > petre > > > > I think typing mount -u / > > should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a line editor, > > however, because for those you need to mount your /usr file system. > > Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. So you need > > to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as required for file > > system and mountpoint). It may help to type > > /bin/cat /etc/fstab > > so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen to look at > > to get the info on the file systems. > > > > Annelise > > > > If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you may have to > > type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / > > -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 16:32:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE58537B41D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16EJnI-00007L-00; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:32:12 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:32:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Bill Schoolcraft Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; Linux-2.4.16 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Wed, 12 Dec 2001 it looks like Annelise Anderson composed: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may praise myself I got the > > idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very much for your help. > > > > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel stuff > > is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota support and > > other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the sources ? [stupid > > question, isn't it ? :-)] > > sources are in /usr/src; config files are in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, and > you'll need to add stuff from LINT to GENERIC (copy GENERIC first to a new > name, and edit the copy) > > but see the handbook for step-by-step instructions (they're in my book, > too); I think quotas need something from LINT but I'm not sure; you > probably need to enable something in rc.conf as well > > overall it's different from linux and I'd avoid making too many analogies > ..... when I first compiled my first FreeBSD kernel I nearly screamed when I realized I was finished, having been doing Linux kernels for some time now it was a piece of cake. (A) cd /sys/i386/conf (B) cp GENERIC MYKERNEL (C) edit MYKERNEL via help from /sys/i386/conf/LINT (you should be in that directory now anyway.) (D) when finished do the command `config MYKERNEL` (E) cd /usr/src/sys/compile/MYKERNEL (F) `make depend` (G) `make` (H) `make install` (I) `reboot` Of course you could string the last 4 commands on one live all at once but for now this should work fine, kinda makes you keep an eye on the screen. Happy Hacking. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 20: 4:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.o-ranges.com (216-73-98-1.ocdc-01.net [216.73.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B0F37B41C; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from perm [66.25.65.57] by mail.o-ranges.com (SMTPD32-7.00) id A88D2B00D6; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:03:25 -0800 From: "Info" To: Subject: come join our O-ranges community.. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C18358.627F11A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 21:29:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gurke.b.lab.net (port-212-202-128-197.reverse.qsc.de [212.202.128.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96CA37B41D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gurke.b.lab.net (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gurke.b.lab.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBD5WBRF013820 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:32:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost) by gurke.b.lab.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -2) with ESMTP id fBD5W7un013816 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:32:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: gurke.b.lab.net: uzs106 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:32:06 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-X-Sender: To: Subject: old bios, big drive, hardware question. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have destroyed my computer in the lab. It has an award bios 4.50g and there were some values for the 3 G Western Digital "Caviar" disk, that I havent written down when I started playing with the bios. What can I do ? The drive isnt recognised anymore, I had 4.4 R running nicely before. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 12 23:38:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net (smtp-1.visp.telinco.net [212.1.130.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5837B405 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.1.152.14] (helo=me01) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 16EQOZ-00056z-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:35:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c183a9$863c6060$0e9801d4@wintellect.com> From: "Philip Pereira" To: Subject: Sendmail - for the LAN Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:40:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello fellow FreeBSD-ers, Am running 4.4 stable and have a small LAN. How can I configure sendmail so that local mail (i.e.. mail to other boxes on my LAN) is sent to them. Currently, all mail gets put into a mail queue and doesn't get sent! Also, how can I set up my FreeBSD box to be a DNS server for my LAN? Many thanks Phil. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 13 3: 1:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from g38.rdsbv.ro (catv-193-231-237-197.rdsbv.ro [193.231.237.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9927837B416 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 03:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from k (petre@petre [192.168.10.5]) by g38.rdsbv.ro (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id fBDB1e300916; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:01:40 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Petre Bandac Organization: g38 To: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:01:42 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01121313014201.00306@k> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does your book get shipped in Romania too ? :-)) unfortunately, that's where I live for now and there are no chances to move elsewhere in the near/far future :-) petre ps - as for the subject, I hate bitchney spears too On Thursday 13 December 2001 02:12, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of his keyboards: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may praise myself I got > > the idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very much for your > > help. > > > > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel > > stuff is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota > > support and other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the > > sources ? [stupid question, isn't it ? :-)] > > sources are in /usr/src; config files are in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, and > you'll need to add stuff from LINT to GENERIC (copy GENERIC first to a new > name, and edit the copy) > > but see the handbook for step-by-step instructions (they're in my book, > too); I think quotas need something from LINT but I'm not sure; you > probably need to enable something in rc.conf as well > > overall it's different from linux and I'd avoid making too many analogies > > Annnelise > > > now the last thing I need to config is the X Window and I can say I got a > > fully functionable freebsd box ... > > > > thanks again, > > > > petre > > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 19:38, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of > > his > > > > keyboards: > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't > > > > supporting it > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to > > > > fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the > > > > partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) read-write. > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > petre > > > > > > I think typing mount -u / > > > should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a line editor, > > > however, because for those you need to mount your /usr file system. > > > Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. So you need > > > to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as required for file > > > system and mountpoint). It may help to type > > > /bin/cat /etc/fstab > > > so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen to look at > > > to get the info on the file systems. > > > > > > Annelise > > > > > > If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you may have to > > > type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / -- 1:01pm up 1:40, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.21, 0.15 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 13 11:45:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C4537B419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA05570; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:43:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:43:51 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) In-Reply-To: <01121313014201.00306@k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: Yes, I think both BSDmall.com and amazon.com ship anywhere, although quick shipping could be expensive. Annelise > Does your book get shipped in Romania too ? :-)) > > unfortunately, that's where I live for now and there are no chances to move > elsewhere in the near/far future :-) > > > petre > > ps - as for the subject, I hate bitchney spears too > > > On Thursday 13 December 2001 02:12, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of his > keyboards: > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may praise myself I got > > > the idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very much for your > > > help. > > > > > > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - but the kernel > > > stuff is the same like in linux - for every extra thing I need - quota > > > support and other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but where are the > > > sources ? [stupid question, isn't it ? :-)] > > > > sources are in /usr/src; config files are in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, and > > you'll need to add stuff from LINT to GENERIC (copy GENERIC first to a new > > name, and edit the copy) > > > > but see the handbook for step-by-step instructions (they're in my book, > > too); I think quotas need something from LINT but I'm not sure; you > > probably need to enable something in rc.conf as well > > > > overall it's different from linux and I'd avoid making too many analogies > > > > Annnelise > > > > > now the last thing I need to config is the X Window and I can say I got a > > > fully functionable freebsd box ... > > > > > > thanks again, > > > > > > petre > > > > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 19:38, Annelise Anderson wrote using one of > > > his > > > > > > keyboards: > > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > > > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the kernel ain't > > > > > supporting it > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't undo the changes to > > > > > fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so I can mount the > > > > > partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) read-write. > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > petre > > > > > > > > I think typing mount -u / > > > > should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a line editor, > > > > however, because for those you need to mount your /usr file system. > > > > Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. So you need > > > > to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as required for file > > > > system and mountpoint). It may help to type > > > > /bin/cat /etc/fstab > > > > so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen to look at > > > > to get the info on the file systems. > > > > > > > > Annelise > > > > > > > > If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you may have to > > > > type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / > > -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 13 12:22:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web20406.mail.yahoo.com (web20406.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D98337B41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:22:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011213202204.17390.qmail@web20406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.239.157.89] by web20406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:22:04 EST Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brent Rector Reply-To: brent@justbrent.net Subject: Re: oops I did it again :-) Could we please change subject line.. To: Annelise Anderson , Petre Bandac Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is getting tiresome, everytime I see that subject line it's almost as if a customer did something wrong.... Perhaps "books" might be better... BR --- Annelise Anderson wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > Yes, I think both BSDmall.com and amazon.com ship anywhere, > although > quick shipping could be expensive. > > Annelise > > > Does your book get shipped in Romania too ? :-)) > > > > unfortunately, that's where I live for now and there are no > chances to move > > elsewhere in the near/far future :-) > > > > > > petre > > > > ps - as for the subject, I hate bitchney spears too > > > > > > On Thursday 13 December 2001 02:12, Annelise Anderson wrote > using one of his > > keyboards: > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > > the part with mount /dev/ad .... worked, and I may > praise myself I got > > > > the idea before reading your mail - anyways thanks very > much for your > > > > help. > > > > > > > > one last question - call me lazy because I didn't RTFM - > but the kernel > > > > stuff is the same like in linux - for every extra thing > I need - quota > > > > support and other stuff - I must recompile, right ? but > where are the > > > > sources ? [stupid question, isn't it ? :-)] > > > > > > sources are in /usr/src; config files are in > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf, and > > > you'll need to add stuff from LINT to GENERIC (copy > GENERIC first to a new > > > name, and edit the copy) > > > > > > but see the handbook for step-by-step instructions > (they're in my book, > > > too); I think quotas need something from LINT but I'm not > sure; you > > > probably need to enable something in rc.conf as well > > > > > > overall it's different from linux and I'd avoid making too > many analogies > > > > > > Annnelise > > > > > > > now the last thing I need to config is the X Window and > I can say I got a > > > > fully functionable freebsd box ... > > > > > > > > thanks again, > > > > > > > > petre > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 19:38, Annelise Anderson > wrote using one of > > > > his > > > > > > > > keyboards: > > > > > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Petre Bandac wrote: > > > > > > edited /etc/fstab for userquota but it says the > kernel ain't > > > > > > supporting it > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > now it's being mounted as read-only and I can't > undo the changes to > > > > > > fstab; what's the line I must write at boot time so > I can mount the > > > > > > partition (I'm talking about the root partition /) > read-write. > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > petre > > > > > > > > > > I think typing mount -u / > > > > > should work. This won't give you any editor but ed, a > line editor, > > > > > however, because for those you need to mount your /usr > file system. > > > > > Since /etc/fstab is corrupted, you can't do mount -a. > So you need > > > > > to use /sbin/mount /dev/ad0s1f /mnt (adjusting as > required for file > > > > > system and mountpoint). It may help to type > > > > > /bin/cat /etc/fstab > > > > > so you have the contents of /etc/fstab on the screen > to look at > > > > > to get the info on the file systems. > > > > > > > > > > Annelise > > > > > > > > > > If you have a bad line in fstab for mounting /, you > may have to > > > > > type /sbin/smount /dev/ad0s1a / instead of mount -u / > > > > > > -- > Annelise Anderson > Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for > Your PC > Available from: BSDmall.com and amazon.com > Book Website: > http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ===== -------------------------------------------------------------------- Brent Rector justBrent.net *Internet Support Services* brent@justbrent.net http://justbrent.net *Web Hosting* *FreeBSD* VoiceMail/Fax: 604-974-0992 ext 7527 Pager: 604-979-2141 ICQ: 1430007 Yahoo Messenger: myfunsailor MSN: kbrector@hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 13 13:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.home.nl (mail2.home.nl [213.51.129.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6325237B417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from portetherflow ([213.51.93.28]) by mail2.home.nl (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20011213212347.GSZN1934.mail2.home.nl@portetherflow> for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:23:47 +0100 From: "Etherflow" To: Subject: Hard disk question Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:22:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c1841c$5e31b070$040010ac@portetherflow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C18424.BFF925B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C18424.BFF925B0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C18424.BFFC32F0" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C18424.BFFC32F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 He guys, I've got a nice little problem and perhaps one of you knows how I can solve it. I added a new superduper 60 Gb harddrive to my freebsd 4.4 machine. I started /stand/sysinstall and made some slices with Fdisk. Then I created the label named /usr2 It all worked and I could access the new slice without any problems. Some days later I rebooted my machine and I noticed that the directories in /usr2 were gone. When I started /stand/sysinstall and went to --> config --> label I saw that the label had gone. I created /usr2 again and saw that all the directories I had created were visible again! Where did I miss something????? I hope that someone can help me! Sander -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.1 iQA/AwUBPBkcMRpaXoDdonXKEQLfAgCgngHfQtvlXir+d6kz2jodXs1e49gAn0U/ PhMV6dNz+vaI7d6NYC7nh/MJ =E88C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C18424.BFFC32F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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    He guys,

    I’ve got a nice little problem and perhaps one of you knows how I = can
    solve it.

    I added a new superduper 60 Gb harddrive to my freebsd 4.4 machine. = I
    started /stand/sysinstall and made some slices with Fdisk. Then I
    created the label named /usr2

    It all worked and I could access the new slice without any problems.
    Some days later I rebooted my machine and I noticed that the
    directories in /usr2 were gone. When I started /stand/sysinstall and
    went to --> config --> label I saw that the label had gone. I = created
    /usr2 again and saw that all the directories I had created were
    visible again!

    Where did I miss something?????

    I hope that someone can help me!

    Sander

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Fri, 14 Dec 2001 05:58:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBEDbPE27322; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:37:25 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:37:25 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Etherflow Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hard disk question Message-ID: <20011214133725.E31192@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000001c1841c$5e31b070$040010ac@portetherflow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vv4Sf/kQfcwinyKX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c1841c$5e31b070$040010ac@portetherflow>; from etherflow@home.nl on Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:22:57PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vv4Sf/kQfcwinyKX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please send these sorts of things to freebsd-questions. On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 10:22:57PM +0100, Etherflow wrote: > I've got a nice little problem and perhaps one of you knows how I can > solve it. > =20 > I added a new superduper 60 Gb harddrive to my freebsd 4.4 machine. I > started /stand/sysinstall and made some slices with Fdisk. Then I > created the label named /usr2 > =20 > It all worked and I could access the new slice without any problems. > Some days later I rebooted my machine and I noticed that the > directories in /usr2 were gone. When I started /stand/sysinstall and > went to --> config --> label I saw that the label had gone. I created > /usr2 again and saw that all the directories I had created were > visible again! > =20 > Where did I miss something????? It sounds like sysinstall mounted the new slice for you, and hasn't recorded it in /etc/fstab (sysinstall is probably doing the right thing here). You need to put an entry for the new filesystem in /etc/fstab. See the fstab(5) man page for information about the format (although it should be fairly self-explanatory from the existing entries). Make sure you make a copy before editing it, in case you make a mistake. 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. 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