From owner-freebsd-small Sun Mar 18 23:19:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5101.mail.yahoo.com (web5101.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A8C437B718 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010319071920.5394.qmail@web5101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.12.243.172] by web5101.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:19:20 EST Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:19:20 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: media used for minimal picobsd usage? To: small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering what people are using to boot picobsd. I'm using v 0.41 - the one available for download from http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/picobsd.html - based on 3.0 current. Obviously this is a bit out of date now. I'd like to try one of the newer pico builds. I understand it no longer fits on a floppy anymore? What are people using for media. I was thinking of using a bootable CD-RW disk that I can modify if needed. Is anyone using this configuration and can share details about it. I suppose compact flash IDE is popular? I'm looking forward to moving to a later version that the will allow port forwarding to work properly and alos support more video cards. Thanks. _____________________________________________________________________________ http://calendar.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Calendar - Access your appointments and meetings online. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Mar 18 23:35:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B67737B718 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 23:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA79928; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:35:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103190735.IAA79928@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: media used for minimal picobsd usage? In-Reply-To: <20010319071920.5394.qmail@web5101.mail.yahoo.com> from "[Paul Jansen]" at "Mar 19, 2001 06:19:20 pm" To: "[Paul Jansen]" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 08:35:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Obviously this is a bit out of date now. I'd like to > try one of the newer pico builds. I understand it no > longer fits on a floppy anymore? it does -- slightly more aggressive compression tricks are used to compensate with the code bloat. cheers luigi > What are people using for media. I was thinking of > using a bootable CD-RW disk that I can modify if > needed. Is anyone using this configuration and can > share details about it. I suppose compact flash IDE > is popular? > I'm looking forward to moving to a later version that > the will allow port forwarding to work properly and > alos support more video cards. > Thanks. > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://calendar.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Calendar > - Access your appointments and meetings online. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Mar 19 5: 1:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web5102.mail.yahoo.com (web5102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62A7A37B71A for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 05:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vlaero@yahoo.com.au) Message-ID: <20010319130114.11519.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.101.38.198] by web5102.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:01:14 EST Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 00:01:14 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Paul=20Jansen?= Subject: Re: media used for minimal picobsd usage? To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200103190735.IAA79928@info.iet.unipi.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there anywhere I can download a disk image of a newer Pico build? I'm not currently in a position to be able to build it myself. Thanks. --- Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > Obviously this is a bit out of date now. I'd like > to > > try one of the newer pico builds. I understand it > no > > longer fits on a floppy anymore? > > it does -- slightly more aggressive compression > tricks are > used to compensate with the code bloat. > > cheers > luigi _____________________________________________________________________________ http://calendar.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Calendar - Access your appointments and meetings online. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Mar 19 6:20:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B4137B718 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA83789; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:20:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103191420.PAA83789@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: media used for minimal picobsd usage? In-Reply-To: <20010319130114.11519.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> from "[Paul Jansen]" at "Mar 20, 2001 00:01:14 am" To: "[Paul Jansen]" Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:20:11 +0100 (CET) Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Is there anywhere I can download a disk image of a > newer Pico build? I'm not currently in a position to > be able to build it myself. there is one at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ but it is based on 3.4, and it might not contain what you want in terms of utilities (ppp, natd etc.) cheers luigi > > --- Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > Obviously this is a bit out of date now. I'd like > > to > > > try one of the newer pico builds. I understand it > > no > > > longer fits on a floppy anymore? > > > > it does -- slightly more aggressive compression > > tricks are > > used to compensate with the code bloat. > > > > cheers > > luigi > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > http://calendar.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Calendar > - Access your appointments and meetings online. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Mar 19 6:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ghost2.onet.pl (ghost2.onet.pl [194.204.190.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F6437B718 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 06:36:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Matysekg@poczta.onet.pl) Received: from chello062179025126.chello.pl ([62.179.25.126]:15442 "EHLO neo2") by ghost2.onet.pl with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:35:11 +0100 From: "Matysekg" To: Subject: net pico Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:34:26 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: <20010319143511Z601839-23497+13511@ghost2.onet.pl> Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! can anybody tell, were (und how) I have to write the IP number of the computer , and the mask of my local network? (ping says "no host bla bla bla") And how to save settings on bootable flop (I guess it isn't automatic, is it?) I have the networking version, and I'm trying to make it run (step by step), at the moment I've compiled kernel, and I can mount disks (and I'm proud of myself, but...:-)) I'll be wery grateful (You just can't imagine how grateful...:-)) for any help... MatysekG -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 2:45: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419E737B71F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:44:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00443 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:44:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id NAA32015; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:44:42 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 13:44:42 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: small@freebsd.org Subject: top in PicoBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Is it possible to reconfigure picobsd so that it is able to run 'top'? I have 174 free kB on the floppy. Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 2:55:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF5437B71F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 02:55:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21008; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:54:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103221054.LAA21008@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: from Alexey Koptsevich at "Mar 22, 2001 01:44:42 pm" To: Alexey Koptsevich Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:54:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hello, > > Is it possible to reconfigure picobsd so that it is able to run 'top'? > I have 174 free kB on the floppy. if i remember well, top requires libkvm which is large. but you can try... luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 3:30:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [213.162.128.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D56E37B718 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 03:30:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 90B782DC12; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:36:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1C487817; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:32:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D7110E1D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:32:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 12:32:01 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Alexey Koptsevich , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: <200103221054.LAA21008@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > Is it possible to reconfigure picobsd so that it is able to run 'top'? > > I have 174 free kB on the floppy. > > if i remember well, top requires libkvm which is large. > but you can try... If I remember well, this dependancy was removed in -current, but I would strongly advise against using -current right now... :-/ The fixes required some changes in the sysctl tree as well, so you can't just get -current top(1) sources and recompile them on -stable box... Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 4:41:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A3737B71F for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 04:41:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09365; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:40:58 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id PAA34266; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:40:53 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 15:40:53 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Is it possible to reconfigure picobsd so that it is able to run 'top'? > > > I have 174 free kB on the floppy. > > > > if i remember well, top requires libkvm which is large. > > but you can try... > > If I remember well, this dependancy was removed in -current, but I would > strongly advise against using -current right now... :-/ The fixes required > some changes in the sysctl tree as well, so you can't just get -current > top(1) sources and recompile them on -stable box... Thanks! But actually I only boot from floppy and then export the whole /usr from FreeBSD server. So, whether in this case the problem is really in the library, not in the PicoBSD kernel? I have the error message: top: nlist failed Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 5:25:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [213.162.128.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6897437B71A for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:25:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 887F82DC0B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:31:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D49147817; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:27:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF06110E1D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:27:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:27:41 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to reconfigure picobsd so that it is able to run 'top'? > > > > I have 174 free kB on the floppy. > > > > > > if i remember well, top requires libkvm which is large. > > > but you can try... > > > > If I remember well, this dependancy was removed in -current, but I would > > strongly advise against using -current right now... :-/ The fixes required > > some changes in the sysctl tree as well, so you can't just get -current > > top(1) sources and recompile them on -stable box... > > Thanks! But actually I only boot from floppy and then export the whole > /usr from FreeBSD server. So, whether in this case the problem is really > in the library, not in the PicoBSD kernel? I have the error message: > > top: nlist failed Top, in that unfixed version, has to be able to access physical, unstripped /kernel binary which corresponds to the running kernel, in order to divine the formats and addresses of the variables it wants to access (this is what libkvm does in the background). Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 5:31:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C337B720 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13623; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:31:19 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id QAA35297; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:31:15 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 16:31:15 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > If I remember well, this dependancy was removed in -current, but I would > > > strongly advise against using -current right now... :-/ The fixes required > > > some changes in the sysctl tree as well, so you can't just get -current > > > top(1) sources and recompile them on -stable box... > > > > Thanks! But actually I only boot from floppy and then export the whole > > /usr from FreeBSD server. So, whether in this case the problem is really > > in the library, not in the PicoBSD kernel? I have the error message: > > > > top: nlist failed > > Top, in that unfixed version, has to be able to access physical, > unstripped /kernel binary which corresponds to the running kernel, in > order to divine the formats and addresses of the variables it wants to > access (this is what libkvm does in the background). Well, but sorry I do not understand why libkvm does not do it on PicoBSD when I run top? Why other dynamic libraries are loaded (e.g., I run X from exported /usr) but not libkvm? Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 5:46: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A35637B71E for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:46:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22565; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:45:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103221345.OAA22565@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: from Alexey Koptsevich at "Mar 22, 2001 04:31:15 pm" To: Alexey Koptsevich Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:45:24 +0100 (CET) Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > unstripped /kernel binary which corresponds to the running kernel, in > > order to divine the formats and addresses of the variables it wants to > > access (this is what libkvm does in the background). > > Well, but sorry I do not understand why libkvm does not do it on PicoBSD for one thing, the picobsd kernel is stripped and kgzipped so there is little chance to extract anything useful from it. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 6:42:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.alphaque.com (ns2.alphaque.com [202.185.254.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C196937B71B for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 06:42:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Received: (qmail 24165 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2001 14:42:48 -0000 Received: from j56.jrc30.jaring.my (HELO prophet.alphaque.com) (161.142.129.250) by ns2.alphaque.com with SMTP; 22 Mar 2001 14:42:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (x31k4a@localhost.alphaque.com [127.0.0.1]) by prophet.alphaque.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2MDe8E00622; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:40:08 +0800 (MYT) (envelope-from dinesh@alphaque.com) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:40:08 +0800 (MYT) From: Dinesh Nair To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > in the library, not in the PicoBSD kernel? I have the error message: > > top: nlist failed that's because the kernel on the picobsd floppy has had the namelist stripped, hence the error you get. --dinesh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 9:30:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [213.162.128.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B3D37B71C for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:30:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 1CEC42DC0B; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:36:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9A2997817; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:33:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6D210E1D; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:33:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:33:57 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Alexey Koptsevich wrote: > > > > > If I remember well, this dependancy was removed in -current, but I would > > > > strongly advise against using -current right now... :-/ The fixes required > > > > some changes in the sysctl tree as well, so you can't just get -current > > > > top(1) sources and recompile them on -stable box... > > > > > > Thanks! But actually I only boot from floppy and then export the whole > > > /usr from FreeBSD server. So, whether in this case the problem is really > > > in the library, not in the PicoBSD kernel? I have the error message: > > > > > > top: nlist failed > > > > Top, in that unfixed version, has to be able to access physical, > > unstripped /kernel binary which corresponds to the running kernel, in > > order to divine the formats and addresses of the variables it wants to > > access (this is what libkvm does in the background). > > Well, but sorry I do not understand why libkvm does not do it on PicoBSD > when I run top? Why other dynamic libraries are loaded (e.g., I run X from > exported /usr) but not libkvm? Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. Andrzej // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // Andrzej Bialecki , Chief System Architect // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ---------------------------------------------------------------- // FreeBSD developer (http://www.freebsd.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 9:40:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9531037B718 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 09:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2MHdR903193; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:39:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103221739.f2MHdR903193@harmony.village.org> To: Andrzej Bialecki Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD Cc: Alexey Koptsevich , Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2001 18:33:57 +0100." References: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:39:27 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Andrzej Bialecki writes: : Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the : accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image : of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of : PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. That's not entirely true. We run FreeBSD 4.2-beta right now (long story) and have /kernel.gz and top works fine in that situation. The kernel is compress, but unstripped. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 10:37:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EB737B718 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:37:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02204; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:36:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id VAA41780; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:36:47 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:36:47 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: Luigi Rizzo , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the > accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image > of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of > PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. OK, thanks, I've got it. Maybe, workaround for my case (i.e. when PicoBSD is used only for boot and /usr then exported from host running real FreeBSD) would be to save unstripped, ungzipped binary image of the running kernel somewhere during picobsd build process and then copy it from this FreeBSD server to picobsdhost:/kernel via NFS from /etc/rc. The former should not be too hard (I believe one more line in pico make file, right? the more so that there is no need in implementing it into the standard src tree, I may do it myself locally), the latter is even more easy. Could you give me a hint me what line and where should I insert to enable the unstripped kernel save? Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 10:46:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CAC937B718 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25698; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103221846.TAA25698@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: from Alexey Koptsevich at "Mar 22, 2001 09:36:47 pm" To: Alexey Koptsevich Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 19:46:09 +0100 (CET) Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In your setup, why don't you just use etherboot to load the kernel and mount everything over nfs (saving the trouble and limitations of going through picobsd) ? Apart from creating a shared readonly root partition (for which i have a script, but it is not committed yet), /etc/rc.diskless[12] do almost everything you need, i have been using them for over 2 years now. cheers luigi > > Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the > > accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image > > of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of > > PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. > > OK, thanks, I've got it. Maybe, workaround for my case (i.e. when PicoBSD > is used only for boot and /usr then exported from host running real > FreeBSD) would be to save unstripped, ungzipped binary image of the > running kernel somewhere during picobsd build process and then copy it > from this FreeBSD server to picobsdhost:/kernel via NFS from /etc/rc. The > former should not be too hard (I believe one more line in pico make file, > right? the more so that there is no need in implementing it into the > standard src tree, I may do it myself locally), the latter is even more > easy. Could you give me a hint me what line and where should I insert to > enable the unstripped kernel save? > > Thanks, > Alex > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 10:54:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD5D37B71D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 10:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA02808; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:53:28 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id VAA42082; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:53:24 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:53:24 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: <200103221846.TAA25698@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, it would be great, but how to set up etherboot for old noname ne2000-compatible cards (some of them are even ISA)? Is there a guide somewhere in the Internet? I've read 'man diskless' but have not found it sufficient... Thanks, Alex > In your setup, why don't you just use etherboot to > load the kernel and mount everything over nfs (saving the trouble > and limitations of going through picobsd) ? > > Apart from creating a shared readonly root partition (for which i > have a script, but it is not committed yet), > /etc/rc.diskless[12] do almost everything you need, i have been using > them for over 2 years now. > > cheers > luigi > > > > Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the > > > accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image > > > of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of > > > PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. > > > > OK, thanks, I've got it. Maybe, workaround for my case (i.e. when PicoBSD > > is used only for boot and /usr then exported from host running real > > FreeBSD) would be to save unstripped, ungzipped binary image of the > > running kernel somewhere during picobsd build process and then copy it > > from this FreeBSD server to picobsdhost:/kernel via NFS from /etc/rc. The > > former should not be too hard (I believe one more line in pico make file, > > right? the more so that there is no need in implementing it into the > > standard src tree, I may do it myself locally), the latter is even more > > easy. Could you give me a hint me what line and where should I insert to > > enable the unstripped kernel save? > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 11: 5:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AB637B71A for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:05:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25901; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:04:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103221904.UAA25901@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: from Alexey Koptsevich at "Mar 22, 2001 09:53:24 pm" To: Alexey Koptsevich Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 20:04:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Well, it would be great, but how to set up etherboot for old noname > ne2000-compatible cards (some of them are even ISA)? Is there a guide > somewhere in the Internet? I've read 'man diskless' but have not found it > sufficient... /usr/ports/net/etherboot cheers luigi > Thanks, > Alex > > > > In your setup, why don't you just use etherboot to > > load the kernel and mount everything over nfs (saving the trouble > > and limitations of going through picobsd) ? > > > > Apart from creating a shared readonly root partition (for which i > > have a script, but it is not committed yet), > > /etc/rc.diskless[12] do almost everything you need, i have been using > > them for over 2 years now. > > > > cheers > > luigi > > > > > > Read again carefully the above paragraph I wrote: libkvm depends on the > > > > accessibility of the file that contains unstripped, ungzipped binary image > > > > of the running kernel. You don't have it in the standard versions of > > > > PicoBSD. Ergo: libkvm fails to work properly. > > > > > > OK, thanks, I've got it. Maybe, workaround for my case (i.e. when PicoBSD > > > is used only for boot and /usr then exported from host running real > > > FreeBSD) would be to save unstripped, ungzipped binary image of the > > > running kernel somewhere during picobsd build process and then copy it > > > from this FreeBSD server to picobsdhost:/kernel via NFS from /etc/rc. The > > > former should not be too hard (I believe one more line in pico make file, > > > right? the more so that there is no need in implementing it into the > > > standard src tree, I may do it myself locally), the latter is even more > > > easy. Could you give me a hint me what line and where should I insert to > > > enable the unstripped kernel save? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 11:22:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D82337B719 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA03814; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:22:39 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id WAA42541; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:22:31 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 22:22:31 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: <200103221904.UAA25901@info.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > /usr/ports/net/etherboot Thanks! And is it worthy to read about the NILO project, does it have any real advantages over etherboot? A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Mar 22 21:47:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D453137B71D for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2001 21:47:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) Received: (qmail 30825199 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2001 05:47:23 -0000 Received: from d165.dhcp212-231.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.165]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Mar 2001 05:47:23 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2N5lIF34628; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 06:47:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD References: X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre In-Reply-To: From: Cyrille Lefevre Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 23 Mar 2001 06:47:16 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexey Koptsevich writes: > > /usr/ports/net/etherboot > > And is it worthy to read about the NILO project, does it have any real > advantages over etherboot? any URLs ? personnaly, I like grub which also have network boot capabilities as well as many others. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 23 0:49:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (relay.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.224.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F7237B71B for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:49:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kopts@astro.ioffe.rssi.ru) Received: from astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (astro.ioffe.rssi.ru [194.85.229.130]) by relay.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26331; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:47:45 +0300 (MSK) Received: by astro.ioffe.rssi.ru (8.9.3/Clnt-2.14-AS-eef) id LAA51565; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:47:38 +0300 (MSK) Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 11:47:38 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Koptsevich To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > And is it worthy to read about the NILO project, does it have any real > > advantages over etherboot? > > any URLs ? http://nilo.sourceforge.net/ > personnaly, I like grub which also have network boot capabilities as > well as many others. Thanks for the reference! Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Mar 23 21:51: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from racine.cybercable.fr (racine.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F0A437B718 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) Received: (qmail 3155341 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2001 05:50:57 -0000 Received: from d165.dhcp212-231.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.165]) (envelope-sender ) by racine.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Mar 2001 05:50:57 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f2O5ohT54473; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 06:50:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) To: Alexey Koptsevich Cc: Luigi Rizzo , Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top in PicoBSD References: X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C Reply-To: Cyrille Lefevre In-Reply-To: From: Cyrille Lefevre Date: 24 Mar 2001 06:50:42 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alexey Koptsevich writes: > > > And is it worthy to read about the NILO project, does it have any real > > > advantages over etherboot? taken from the NILO home page (below) : etherboot home page is http://www.slug.org.au/etherboot original NILO home page is http://www.slug.org.au/etherboot/nilo > > any URLs ? > > http://nilo.sourceforge.net/ thanks. the CVS tree hasn't moved for months (12) ! so, is this a yet another dead Linux project ? also, is this a yet another Linux capable only boot loader ? (read does it compile outside a Linux environment ?) > > personnaly, I like grub which also have network boot capabilities as > > well as many others. the main advantage of grub, is that it compile outside a Linux environment. also, it support ffs, ext2fs, reiserfs, fat and netboot. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Mar 24 11:51:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.mail.yahoo.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A36F337B719 for ; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyeske@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 3067 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2001 19:51:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20010324195147.3066.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [64.81.49.127] by web121.yahoomail.com; Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:51:47 PST Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:51:47 -0800 (PST) From: David Yeske Subject: grub and stuff To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nilo seems to be pretty stagnant. Grub will boot /boot/loader or a freebsd kernel directly. It is a freebsd port, so is etherboot. Both of these work great if you want to send a kernel with an mfsroot in it over the network. All you need is grub or etherboot on a floppy, then you can get the kernel over tftp. If you want diskless support for grub then you will need to change the port make file. Here is an example Grub Makefile patch --- ports/sysutils/grub/Makefile Mon Feb 12 04:49:47 2001 +++ ports/sysutils/grub/Makefile.eepro100 Sun Mar 4 23:42:08 2001 @@ -16,6 +16,10 @@ USE_GMAKE= yes CONFIGURE_TARGET= ${MACHINE_ARCH}-freebsd-freebsd${OSREL} +CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-diskless \ + --enable-verbose \ + --enable-eepro100 + MAN1= mbchk.1 MAN8= grub.8 grub-install.8 etherboot also works very well, but I don't think you can send it a gzipped kernel, here is an example etherboot patch to get freebsd support... --- ports/net/etherboot/work/etherboot-4.7.22/src/Config.orig Fri Mar 16 02:44:53 2001 +++ ports/net/etherboot/work/etherboot-4.7.22/src/Config Fri Mar 16 02:45:19 2001 @@ -143,15 +143,15 @@ # More optional features # CFLAGS32+= -DANSIESC -DGFX -# CFLAGS32+= -DPASSWD -DUSRPARMS -DFLOPPY # -DTRY_FLOPPY_FIRST=4 +CFLAGS32+= -DUSRPARMS -DFLOPPY # -DTRY_FLOPPY_FIRST=4 # For a serial console, which can run in parallel with CRT console # CFLAGS32+= -DCONSOLE_DUAL -DCOMCONSOLE=0x3F8 -DCONSPEED=9600 # Enable tagged image, generic ELF, Multiboot ELF # or FreeBSD ELF/a.out boot image support -# CFLAGS32+= -DTAGGED_IMAGE -DELF_IMAGE -DAOUT_IMAGE -DIMAGE_MULTIBOOT -DIMAGE_FREEBSD -CFLAGS32+= -DTAGGED_IMAGE -DELF_IMAGE +CFLAGS32+= -DTAGGED_IMAGE -DELF_IMAGE -DAOUT_IMAGE -DIMAGE_MULTIBOOT -DIMAGE_FREEBSD +#CFLAGS32+= -DTAGGED_IMAGE -DELF_IMAGE # Change download protocol to NFS, default is TFTP # CFLAGS32+= -DDOWNLOAD_PROTO_NFS Alexey Koptsevich writes: > > > And is it worthy to read about the NILO project, does it have any real > > > advantages over etherboot? taken from the NILO home page (below) : etherboot home page is http://www.slug.org.au/etherboot original NILO home page is http://www.slug.org.au/etherboot/nilo > > any URLs ? > > http://nilo.sourceforge.net/ thanks. the CVS tree hasn't moved for months (12) ! so, is this a yet another dead Linux project ? also, is this a yet another Linux capable only boot loader ? (read does it compile outside a Linux environment ?) > > personnaly, I like grub which also have network boot capabilities as > > well as many others. the main advantage of grub, is that it compile outside a Linux environment. also, it support ffs, ext2fs, reiserfs, fat and netboot. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message