From owner-freebsd-sparc Mon Dec 10 20:26:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from x1.doubledimension.com (x1.doubledimension.com [63.90.75.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C26A37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pinkslip (pinkslip.doubledimension.com [63.90.75.3]) by x1.doubledimension.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id fBB4Jrer021967 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:19:54 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Brian D. McGrew" To: Subject: Need any help? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:30:44 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c181fc$99be45d0$034b5a3f@doubledimension.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Guys! I've been on the list for a year or so now, just watching with very little free time and resources. Well, now I've got both. A little time and quite a bit of hardware. I've got a vast array of U5's, U10's, X1's, a 250 (Dual) and a 450 (Quad). I'd love to get in and help out. What can I do. I've been watching the list and it looks like things are moving along but I'm still not sure where to start or where to get the code from? In looking at the site, it looks like the snapshot is from 1998, and I'd hope there's been some progress since then. Lemme know what I can do to help and where to start; I'll dive right in! -brian brian@doubledimension.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Dec 11 18:32:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from k6.locore.ca (k6.locore.ca [198.96.117.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9709537B416 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jake@localhost) by k6.locore.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fBC2XFR09717; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:33:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jake) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:33:15 -0500 From: Jake Burkholder To: "Brian D. McGrew" Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need any help? Message-ID: <20011211213315.A7117@locore.ca> References: <000001c181fc$99be45d0$034b5a3f@doubledimension.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c181fc$99be45d0$034b5a3f@doubledimension.com>; from brian@doubledimension.com on Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:30:44PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently, On Mon, Dec 10, 2001 at 08:30:44PM -0800, Brian D. McGrew said words to the effect of; > Hi, Guys! > > I've been on the list for a year or so now, just watching with very little > free time and resources. Well, now I've got both. A little time and quite > a bit of hardware. I've got a vast array of U5's, U10's, X1's, a 250 (Dual) > and a 450 (Quad). I'd love to get in and help out. What can I do. > > I've been watching the list and it looks like things are moving along but > I'm still not sure where to start or where to get the code from? In looking > at the site, it looks like the snapshot is from 1998, and I'd hope there's > been some progress since then. > > Lemme know what I can do to help and where to start; I'll dive right in! Can you provide remote access to any of these machines? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Dec 14 10:43:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from excalibur.skynet.be (excalibur.skynet.be [195.238.3.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3737B405 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from skynet.be (adsl-42025.turboline.skynet.be [217.136.36.41]) by excalibur.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id fBEIhj806989 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:43:45 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <3C1A4A19.6D94E781@skynet.be> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:51:05 +0100 From: Jan Atle Ramsli X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.19 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Subject: Status? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I just joined the list. Here is what I got: My SPARC-64 is a Xmas present from my wife, and has not yet been fired up (keyboard cable coming tomorrow). Here is who I am: Norwegian programmer born in 1959. I learned programming on an ND-10 running SinTran - don't worry if that means nothing to you, it was a Norwegian supermini. One of my first 'real computers' was a CompuPro-286 (+68k,8085/86,..) and another S-100 based machine. My first 'real OS' after Concurrent was SCO Xenix-286. I have never programmed a 64-bit processor, let alone a SPARC. I seem to understand that sizeof(int) != sizeof(int*) ? That will be interesting! What development system should I use? I am most tempted to use Solaris, but if I will have less of a hazzle with NetBSD or even Linux, I hope you can tell me. One of my brain-babies that I cherish: I have looked through the Linux IDE-CD stuff, and I was horrified. I do not see the CDROM as 'stereo equipment' - I see it as a 'tape drive' - that is the way it is built. So, I would like to use a CD/R-RW this way tar cvf /dev/cdr0 /diddelidir like a tape drive ... and let all that 'volume control'-related stuff be handled thorough a generic IDE device. So, depending on where we are, I may want to fiddle with that ... where would I start? And: Is the project still alive, seems like the website has been asleep for a while ...? Atle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Dec 15 7:36:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc@freebsd.org Received: from ms51.hinet.net (ms51.hinet.net [168.95.4.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEAD37B419; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from u6o9v0 (61-216-40-84.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.216.40.84]) by ms51.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09762; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:22:52 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200112151522.XAA09762@ms51.hinet.net> From: "dream" To: Subject: 行愛的真諦--敲天堂的門 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:25:02 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org

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      行愛的真諦  敲天堂的門

     

     

    愛是恆久忍耐，又有恩慈，愛是不嫉妒。愛是不自誇，不張狂，不做害羞的事。不求自己的益處，不輕易發怒，不計算人家的惡，不喜歡不義，只喜歡真理。凡事包容，凡事相信，凡事盼望，凡事忍耐，凡事要忍耐，愛是永不止息。

     

      

       「愛的真諦」是聖經中的一段話，經人整理後，譜成一曲舒緩動聽的人間之歌。這首歌從小至今深獲我喜愛，印象中是在小學合唱團學的。她那優美柔和的旋律、內涵豐富的歌詞不但靜默地滋養著我童年的心靈，也陪我度過了無數個人生的挫折與考驗，當我遭逢苦惱或面對讚揚時，我的心底時常響起這首聖潔無比的歌。

        我常暗自佩服身旁的基督教朋友，因為神要她們做的不只是普通的好人，而是言行俱美、品德高潔的好人中的好人！前一陣子，一位基督教同學的談話，卻給了我一些思考的空間，我突然對她信仰上帝的方式感到有些疑惑。

        她經常熱心地與周圍的人分享神如何愛護他們整個家庭、如何悉心安排她的人生遭遇，真心地訴說著神的無私、偉大與包容。那天聽到她說：「…無論你以前做了什麼不好的事，只要你信祂，祂就會帶領你走向天國。」對方問她：「就這麼簡單嗎？只要我相信祂，就可以上天國嗎？」她回答：「是啊！就是這麼簡單！你看上帝多麼偉大呀！」

         我生長在一個沒有神佛信仰、甚少宗教儀式的家庭裡。儘管在成長過程中，與宗教的接觸非常有限，但是我一直深信，人總該要有屬於自己的信仰，也因此，我便不斷尋找亙古不變的真理。

        因著同學的談話，我再一次思考人們對於宗教的認知。人真的了解神的旨意嗎？我想，不管是耶穌或是釋迦牟尼，為了救渡世人而傳道講法時，應該沒有說過自己是基督教或是佛教吧！當我認識到宗教是後人所自創的名詞，儀式也是因著時空背景所自行建立的人類行為，而非神的旨意，人們信奉、護衛的是宗教形式，而非其中所闡揚的真理，祈求的是自己在世間的各種現實利益時，對於現今諸多宗教亂象也就不那麼摸不著頭緒了。也難怪我的同學會如此天真的以為只在表面上、形式上「信耶穌就得永生」了。

        我認為信不只是精神上的堅守，更是行動上的落實。就如同我們在學校學習一樣，如果我相信只要考進一流高中，就可以包中諸多學子夢寐以求的大學名校，而不在三年的高中生涯中認真聽講，盡力做好一個學生的本分，又怎能實現成為大學新鮮人的美麗夢想呢？正確的思考伴隨積極的行動，不正是成就諸多美事的先決要件嗎？

        我想不管我們來自何方，過著什麼樣的生活，是否擁有宗教信仰，我期盼人們都能將「愛的真諦」的精深內涵與美好德行融入生活點滴之中，做個真正心靈潔淨、道德高尚的好人。

                                    (摘錄自大紀元周報)

     

     

     

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