From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 0: 6:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com (web11201.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 155C637B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e_chelon@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.144.25] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:06:40 PDT Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:06:40 -0700 (PDT) From: echelon Subject: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem To: Stable FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, When I cvsup my port via cvsup2.FreeBSD.org, I got this error msg. Updating collection ports-www/cvs Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-aa Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-ab Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/tomcat.sh Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory not empty FYI. Thanks. -echelon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 0:11:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E0C37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBC006ACBC; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:41:05 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:41:05 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Panic on boot on today's -STABLE Message-ID: <20010527164105.N29739@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just built a new kernel on my SMP -STABLE machine, and I get a repeated panic on running ifconfig. Here's a backtrace: (gdb) bt #0 0xc038f777 in ?? () #1 0xc014908d in mii_mediachg (mii=0xc1224b00) at ../../dev/mii/mii.c:293 #2 0xc020a661 in dc_init (xsc=0xc1229000) at ../../pci/if_dc.c:2986 #3 0xc01afbb6 in ether_ioctl (ifp=0xc1229000, command=-2145359604, data=0xc12d3f00 "\230?-Á¨?-Á¸?-Á") at ../../net/if_ethersubr.c:733 #4 0xc020a813 in dc_ioctl (ifp=0xc1229000, command=2149607692, data=0xc12d3f00 "\230?-Á¨?-Á¸?-Á") at ../../pci/if_dc.c:3084 #5 0xc01c38b5 in in_ifinit (ifp=0xc1229000, ia=0xc12d3f00, sin=0xcad77eb8, scrub=0) at ../../netinet/in.c:671 #6 0xc01c33c1 in in_control (so=0xc9cdff00, cmd=2151704858, data=0xcad77ea8 "dc0", ifp=0xc1229000, p=0xca3ca440) at ../../netinet/in.c:412 #7 0xc01aed4f in ifioctl (so=0xc9cdff00, cmd=2151704858, data=0xcad77ea8 "dc0", p=0xca3ca440) at ../../net/if.c:972 #8 0xc017b936 in soo_ioctl (fp=0xc12a5280, cmd=2151704858, data=0xcad77ea8 "dc0", p=0xca3ca440) at ../../kern/sys_socket.c:143 #9 0xc01787f2 in ioctl (p=0xca3ca440, uap=0xcad77f80) at ../../sys/file.h:178 #10 0xc0289f75 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -1077936724, tf_ebp = -1077936960, tf_isp = -891846700, tf_ebx = 134669336, tf_edx = 3, tf_ecx = 134749072, tf_eax = 54, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134529672, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 663, tf_esp = -1077937100, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #11 0xc027462b in Xint0x80_syscall () #12 0x80486e1 in ?? () #13 0x8048135 in ?? () (gdb) kldstat Undefined command: "kldstat". Try "help". (gdb) f 1 #1 0xc014908d in mii_mediachg (mii=0xc1224b00) at ../../dev/mii/mii.c:293 293 rv = (*child->mii_service)(child, mii, MII_MEDIACHG); (gdb) p *child $1 = { mii_dev = 0xc1229000, mii_list = { le_next = 0xc02b7ad0, le_prev = 0xc121c004 }, mii_phy = -1070456236, mii_inst = -1054752000, mii_service = 0xc12d3f60, mii_pdata = 0x0, mii_auto_ch = { callout = 0x0 }, mii_flags = 1, mii_capabilities = -2013069307, mii_ticks = 0, mii_active = 0 } (gdb) From the dmesg (all available if you need it): dc0: port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xeb000000-0xeb0000ff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:80:c6:f9:d3:fa miibus0: on dc0 dcphy0: on miibus0 dcphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto I can't get a dump for some reason (well, it dumps, but when I reboot the system claims there isn't one). I can repeat the problem, however. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 0:33:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE99F37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id ADD51C9A026A; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:33:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:33:41 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: echelon Cc: Stable FreeBSD Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem References: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG echelon wrote: > > Hi, > > When I cvsup my port via cvsup2.FreeBSD.org, I got this error msg. > > Updating collection ports-www/cvs > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-aa > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-ab > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/tomcat.sh > Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory not empty See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 Kent > > FYI. Thanks. > > -echelon > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 0:40:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5DD37B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:40:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4R7eM413801; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:40:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4R7eLd13133; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:40:21 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4R7eLu44746; Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:40:20 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, markm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads Up for users tracking -STABLE with CTM Message-ID: <20010527094020.B10010@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <20010526150235.A8391@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <20010526134914.C60096@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010526134914.C60096@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 01:49:15PM -0700 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 26-May-2001 at 13:49:15 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 03:02:35PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > I am posting this message since I saw at least one user > > confused by this and was bitten by the same thing... > > > > > > Beware if you are tracking -STABLE with CTM. Starting with > > src-4.0538.gz you will have problems doing a 'make world'. > > This is because some changes were made to files in > > /usr/src/secure that are needed for 'make world' to succeed. > > Unfortunately, neither /usr/src/secure nor /usr/src/crypto get > > updated by CTM. (No, I don't know why. I have sent a PR and > > mailed to ctm@freebsd.org about this already.) > > There's a separate CTM distribution for the crypto stuff. However, > it's breakage that secure/ or crypto/ is required to make world. I don't think there is. As I wrote in my other mail, crypto and secure where included in the main CTM tree with src-4.0152.gz. The crypto CTMs were maintained on ftp.internat.freebsd.org in /pub/FreeBSD/CTM before that. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 1:26:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com (web11204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D99E37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 01:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e_chelon@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010527082618.94788.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.144.25] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 May 2001 01:26:18 PDT Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 01:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: echelon Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem To: Stable FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --- Kent Stewart wrote: > > See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 > Problem solved (rm -rf /usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat as suggested in the PR above). Thanks. -echelon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 1:35: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F19137B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 01:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4R8Xo507401; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:33:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4R8Xod17595; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:33:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4R8Xou45349; Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:33:50 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Matt Dillon , Joe Clarke , "Justin T. Gibbs" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continuing ahc problems - also cause fxp failure Message-ID: <20010527103350.B17013@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <200105261957.f4QJvEB01244@earth.backplane.com> <200105270400.f4R40MZ10833@cwsys.cwsent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105270400.f4R40MZ10833@cwsys.cwsent.com>; from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 09:00:18PM -0700 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 26-May-2001 at 21:00:18 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > In message <200105261957.f4QJvEB01244@earth.backplane.com>, Matt Dillon > writes: > > Ok, I've managed to upgrade my Dell 2400 BIOS from A03 to A07. I don't > > see any sort of bios upgrade for the 7890/91 (on-board) or the 7880 (card > > ) > > but from other emails I gather then on-board 7890/91's bios is part of > > the system bios, and that's the ahc that was crashing (the PCI card is > > just connected to a cdrom). I've got the console hooked up to record > > whatever happens. > > > > Now we'll wait and see :-) > > You say you have a 7880 card that I assume you purchased separately or > was installed separately by the vendor? If that's the case the BIOS > upgrade at Adaptec's site could be applied. > > The URL for the 2940UW (7880 chipset) BIOS upgrade is: > > http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/drivers_by_product.html?cat=%2F > Product%2FAHA-2940UW&prodkey=AHA-2940UW at the bottom of the page. > > The 2940UW BIOS upgrade is only to be applied to retail 2940UW's, e.g. > not those sold by OEM's on a motherboard. Two BIOS upgrades are > available 1.34.3 and 2.20 JFYI, the current version is 2.57.2. All BIOSes are easily to find by doing an 'ls -lrt' in ftp://ftp.adaptec.com/eprom_bios -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 1:53:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr (smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr [212.180.1.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADCB37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 01:53:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fonvi@easynet.fr) Received: from mx1.mail.easynet.fr (slb-1-sippriv.mail.easynet.fr [10.0.1.57]) by smarthost2.mail.easynet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A9EB830; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:53:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vobiscum.styx.org (adsl-4-196.adsl.easynet.fr [195.114.94.196]) by mx1.mail.easynet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642DCB6A3; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by vobiscum.styx.org (8.11.3/8.9.3/ - 6/08/98) id f4R8vtf03077; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:57:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marc) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:57:55 +0200 From: Marc Fonvieille To: John Polstra Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup through ssh tunnel Message-ID: <20010527105755.A2580@vobiscum.styx.org> References: <20010526150646.A12866@vobiscum.styx.org> <200105261612.f4QGCiX15017@vashon.polstra.com> <20010526185258.A19791@vobiscum.styx.org> <200105262153.f4QLrIE16516@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105262153.f4QLrIE16516@vashon.polstra.com>; from jdp@polstra.com on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 02:53:18PM -0700 X-Useless-Header: Black Metal inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 02:53:18PM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > Hrm. I don't have a good explanation for you, then. It has to be > one of three things: > > 1. You are not connecting to the server you think you are connecting > to. Running tcpdump on the gateway show me that cvsup client connect itself to the good server and it runs for ports and doc so... > > 2. The server itself is not up-to-date. > I even removed all files from /usr/src/ to be sure but nothing new > 3. There is something wrong with the configuration of the server. > i tried cvsup.de.freebsd.org, cvsup.uk.freebsd.org and cvsup.fr.freebsd.org and all give me the same results > #1 could happen if you are running a cvsupd on the client machine, and > the ssh port forwarding failed. In that case your client would be > trying to update from itself, and I wouldn't expect it to find much > of anything new. ;-) To rule that out entirely, tell ssh to use a > different local port (say, 5555) and run cvsup with "-p 5555". > i tried and no changes. Hmm, i think i'm going to give up :( This problem seems so silly it runs for everything but src-* Thanks for the help. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 4:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tepid.osl.fast.no (tepid.osl.fast.no [213.188.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0131737B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 04:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) Received: from raw.grenland.fast.no.fast.no (fw-oslo.fast.no [213.188.9.129]) by tepid.osl.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA94758; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:19:58 GMT (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) From: Raymond Wiker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <15120.58075.797050.941099@raw.grenland.fast.no> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:19:55 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 3ware & mysql, again X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG =09Around the 20th of March there was a thread on freebsd-stable concerning crashes that were due to the combination of 3ware controllers and Mysql. I've now had a couple of these (with a week or so between them), so I'm wondering whether there was a conclusion to this thread. =09Note: I have been running a 4.2-STABLE as of February 20th; I *thought* that I was more up-to-date than that. I'm updating this machine just now, but if the problem was not resolved, I'm going to move the Mysql server to a different machine (I've got a spare 18GB SCSI disk somewhere :-) =09Brief details of the setup: =09Dell Precision 220 =09Pentium III 600MHz =09256 MB RAMBUS RAM =09GENERIC kernel =093ware 2-channel controller: ID 0=A0=A03ware 3W-6200 disk controller Array Unit 0=A0=A0Striped 64K (RAID 0)=A0=A0143.17 GB=A0=A0 OK Port 0=A0IBM-DTLA-307075 =A0=A0=A071.59 GB=A0=A0= OK Port 1=A0IBM-DTLA-307075 =A0=A0=A071.59 GB=A0=A0= OK Controller ID: 0 Monitor version: ME6X 1.00.00.004 Firmware version: FE6X 1.00.43.003 BIOS version: BEXX 1.04.00.009 PCB version: Rev2 Achip version: V4.40 Pchip version: V5.60 Model: 6200 Unit count: 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 4:41:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yadt.co.uk (yadt.demon.co.uk [158.152.4.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BE5637B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 04:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: (qmail 93802 invoked from network); 27 May 2001 11:40:36 -0000 Received: from gattaca.local.yadt.co.uk (HELO mail.gattaca.yadt.co.uk) (qmailr@10.0.0.2) by xfiles.yadt.co.uk with SMTP; 27 May 2001 11:40:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 69462 invoked by uid 1000); 27 May 2001 11:40:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:40:35 +0100 From: David Taylor To: echelon Cc: Stable FreeBSD Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem Message-ID: <20010527124035.A23023@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: echelon , Stable FreeBSD References: <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> <20010527082618.94788.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AhhlLboLdkugWU4S" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010527082618.94788.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com>; from e_chelon@yahoo.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 01:26:18 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 27 May 2001, echelon wrote: >=20 > --- Kent Stewart wrote: > >=20 > > See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D274= 95 > >=20 >=20 > Problem solved (rm -rf /usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat as suggested > in the PR above). >=20 See the next work-around in that PR. That works until the next time you cvsup. You need to erase the jakarta-tomcat lines from the checkouts file, or install the latest version of the cvsup port.... --=20 David Taylor davidt@yadt.co.uk --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EOezfIqKXSsJ/xERAvXPAKCyN5PLoTdubjFdI7XXs2p2oVMUxwCfa7Xu 0Rq4RPiSXpkvQOCRb/K4T/w= =z8lU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AhhlLboLdkugWU4S-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 5: 7:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFB337B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 05:07:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GDZTNZ00.KLC; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:07:11 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca ([192.168.56.40]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f4RBvmUv000451; Sun, 27 May 2001 07:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B10EBB9.1070707@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 07:57:45 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) References: <3B1059DD.8090505@videotron.ca> <20010527091140.A1554@iv.nn.kiev.ua> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010207000404040705080502" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------010207000404040705080502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Valentin, Okay, I don't know if I can send this info on the newsgroup... I'll do it anyway as it is small. Sorry for the HTML formatting, I wanted the output to be as clean as possible... The tests were done with my 3 usual rules: - 00050 allow ip from any to any - 00090 divert 8668 ip from any to any via rl0 - 00100 allow ip from any to any - 65535 deny ip from any to any (default ... of course) We see clearly that my system isn't stressed at all. We can even see that with rule 50, my system gets more interrupts. SYSTAT WITHOUT RULE 50: ----------------------- /0 /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 Load Average /0 /10 /20 /30 /40 /50 /60 /70 /80 /90 /100 cpu user| nice| system|X interrupt| idle|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX /0 /10 /20 /30 /40 /50 /60 /70 /80 /90 /100 ad0 MB/s tps| ad1 MB/s tps| fd0 MB/s tps| 3 users Load 0.08 0.10 0.06 Sun May 27 07:38 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 6700 1212 11912 1476 9320 count All 21324 2224 2344560 3244 pages Interrupts Proc:r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 298 total 10 108 3 366 298 44 2 6728 wire ata0 irq14 13148 act ata1 irq15 3.0%Sys 1.9%Intr 0.8%User 0.0%Nice 94.4%Idl 1008 inact 66 rl0 irq10 | | | | | | | | | | 440 cache 4 xl0 irq11 =+> 8880 free fdc0 irq6 daefr sio1 irq3 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache prcfr 100 clk irq0 Calls hits % hits % react 128 rtc irq8 pdwake zfod pdpgs Disks ad0 ad1 fd0 ofod intrn KB/t 128 0.00 0.00 %slo-z 6752 buf tps 0 0 0 tfree 14 dirtybuf MB/s 0.02 0.00 0.00 1971 desiredvnodes % busy 1 0 0 670 numvnodes 307 freevnodes UPTIME ------ 7:42AM up 8:27, 2 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.06, 0.06 SYSTAT WITHOUT RULE 50: ----------------------- /0 /1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 Load Average | /0 /10 /20 /30 /40 /50 /60 /70 /80 /90 /100 cpu user| nice| system|XX interrupt|XX idle|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX /0 /10 /20 /30 /40 /50 /60 /70 /80 /90 /100 ad0 MB/s tps| ad1 MB/s tps| fd0 MB/s tps| 3 users Load 0.20 0.12 0.07 Sun May 27 07:39 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 5852 1148 10532 1476 3712 count All 29840 2144 2354092 3244 pages Interrupts Proc:r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt cow 530 total 7 206 3 424 530 12 1 7056 wire 2 ata0 irq14 13488 act ata1 irq15 8.2%Sys 4.3%Intr 0.6%User 0.0%Nice 86.8%Idl 5948 inact 297 rl0 irq10 | | | | | | | | | | 3348 cache 3 xl0 irq11 ====++> 364 free fdc0 irq6 daefr sio1 irq3 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache prcfr 100 clk irq0 Calls hits % hits % react 128 rtc irq8 pdwake zfod pdpgs Disks ad0 ad1 fd0 ofod intrn KB/t 128 0.00 0.00 %slo-z 6752 buf tps 2 0 0 49 tfree 14 dirtybuf MB/s 0.20 0.00 0.00 1971 desiredvnodes % busy 6 0 0 670 numvnodes 309 freevnodes UPTIME: ------- 7:40AM up 8:25, 2 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.11, 0.07 NETSTAT: -------- Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Ibytes Opkts Oerrs Obytes Coll rl0 1500 00:00:b4:a8:34:19 121332 0 125208002 54838 0 3327570 0 1:0:5e:0:0:1 rl0 1500 24.201.45/24 modemcable238.4 50554 - 54968080 54832 - 2559305 - ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net xl0 1500 00:10:5a:e2:60:c3 32386 0 2406465 48378 0 68497930 8 1:0:5e:0:0:1 xl0 1500 192.168.56/25 neutrino 5498 - 694497 2880 - 461228 - ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net xl0 1500 192.168.56/25 ns2 145 - 10091 0 - 0 - ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net xl0 1500 192.168.56/25 gw100 0 - 0 0 - 0 - ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net lo0 16384 137 0 22385 137 0 22385 0 lo0 16384 127 localhost 32 - 2139 32 - 2139 - ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Sat, May 26, 2001 at 21:35:25, leclercn (Normand Leclerc) wrote about "ip_divert blues (was natd blues)": > >> I recently posted help on a slowdown problem when using natd. I >> found out that ipfilter (ipnat) is doing the very same thing: slowdown. >> I trimed down the kernel to almost nothing, I removed a network adapter >> I didn't need; in brief, I did everything I could think of ... nothing >> has changed. My cable modem is as slow as an ADSL. >> I have two rules in my firewall when using natd: >> - 100 divert natd all from any to any via rl0 >> - 200 pass all from any to any >> On the nat machine, I start a transfer with my ISP's ftp server to be >> able to reach maximum transfer speed. I get something like 50k/s. On >> the fly, I add a third rule: 50 pass all from any to any. Suddently, my >> transfer rate goes up to nearly 170k/s. > > > You didn't do standard system load meterings. Please tell: > `uptime' output (LA values), > `top' output - does natd occupy top position or not; exact WCPU and CPU values; > `systat -io' output - percents of processor in each mode (idle/user/sys/intr); > `systat -vm' output - number of interrupts, context switches, syscalls > per second; > > Also try get collisions, input and output errors on interface with netstat. > > All these data may help with diagnostics, but without them diagnostics > is almost impossible. > >> The nat machine is a P90 with 32megs of ram. It has a 3com 3B905BTX >> and a cheaper nic connected to the cable modem (realtek). >> Ideas? Has the IP divertion become that slow? > > > > /netch > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --------------010207000404040705080502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Valentin,

   Okay, I don't know if I can send this info on the newsgroup...  I'll do it anyway as it is small.  Sorry for the HTML formatting, I wanted the output to be as clean as possible...

   The tests were done with my 3 usual rules:

       - 00050 allow ip from any to any
       - 00090 divert 8668 ip from any to any via rl0
       - 00100 allow ip from any to any
       - 65535 deny ip from any to any    (default ... of course)

   We see clearly that my system isn't stressed at all.  We can even see that with rule 50, my system gets more interrupts.

SYSTAT WITHOUT RULE 50:
-----------------------



                   /0   /1   /2   /3   /4   /5   /6   /7   /8   /9   /10
    Load Average  

         /0   /10  /20  /30  /40  /50  /60  /70  /80  /90  /100
cpu  user|
    nice|
  system|X
interrupt|
    idle|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

         /0   /10  /20  /30  /40  /50  /60  /70  /80  /90  /100
ad0   MB/s
     tps|
ad1   MB/s
     tps|
fd0   MB/s
     tps|





   3 users    Load  0.08  0.10  0.06                  Sun May 27 07:38

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                     VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
       Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free         in  out     in  out
Act    6700    1212    11912     1476    9320 count
All   21324    2224  2344560     3244         pages
                                                                Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  w    Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt        cow     298 total
            10       108    3  366  298   44    2   6728 wire        ata0 irq14
                                                   13148 act         ata1 irq15
3.0%Sys   1.9%Intr  0.8%User  0.0%Nice 94.4%Idl     1008 inact    66 rl0 irq10
|    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |        440 cache     4 xl0 irq11
=+>                                                  8880 free        fdc0 irq6
                                                         daefr       sio1 irq3
Namei         Name-cache    Dir-cache                     prcfr   100 clk irq0
   Calls     hits    %     hits    %                     react   128 rtc irq8
                                                         pdwake
                                         zfod            pdpgs
Disks   ad0   ad1   fd0                   ofod            intrn
KB/t    128  0.00  0.00                   %slo-z     6752 buf
tps       0     0     0                   tfree        14 dirtybuf
MB/s   0.02  0.00  0.00                              1971 desiredvnodes
% busy    1     0     0                               670 numvnodes
                                                     307 freevnodes





UPTIME
------

7:42AM  up  8:27, 2 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.06, 0.06









SYSTAT WITHOUT RULE 50:
-----------------------



                   /0   /1   /2   /3   /4   /5   /6   /7   /8   /9   /10
    Load Average   |

         /0   /10  /20  /30  /40  /50  /60  /70  /80  /90  /100
cpu  user| 
    nice|
  system|XX
interrupt|XX
    idle|XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX   

         /0   /10  /20  /30  /40  /50  /60  /70  /80  /90  /100
ad0   MB/s
     tps|
ad1   MB/s
     tps|
fd0   MB/s
     tps|







   3 users    Load  0.20  0.12  0.07                  Sun May 27 07:39

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                     VN PAGER  SWAP PAGER
       Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free         in  out     in  out
Act    5852    1148    10532     1476    3712 count
All   29840    2144  2354092     3244         pages
                                                                Interrupts
Proc:r  p  d  s  w    Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt        cow     530 total
             7       206    3  424  530   12    1   7056 wire      2 ata0 irq14
                                                   13488 act         ata1 irq15
8.2%Sys   4.3%Intr  0.6%User  0.0%Nice 86.8%Idl     5948 inact   297 rl0 irq10
|    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |       3348 cache     3 xl0 irq11
====++>                                               364 free        fdc0 irq6
                                                         daefr       sio1 irq3
Namei         Name-cache    Dir-cache                     prcfr   100 clk irq0
   Calls     hits    %     hits    %                     react   128 rtc irq8
                                                         pdwake
                                         zfod            pdpgs
Disks   ad0   ad1   fd0                   ofod            intrn
KB/t    128  0.00  0.00                   %slo-z     6752 buf
tps       2     0     0                49 tfree        14 dirtybuf
MB/s   0.20  0.00  0.00                              1971 desiredvnodes
% busy    6     0     0                               670 numvnodes
                                                     309 freevnodes





UPTIME:
-------

7:40AM  up  8:25, 2 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.11, 0.07




NETSTAT:
--------

Name  Mtu   Network       Address            Ipkts Ierrs     Ibytes    Opkts Oerrs     Obytes  Coll
rl0   1500  <Link#1>    00:00:b4:a8:34:19   121332     0  125208002    54838     0    3327570     0
                       1:0:5e:0:0:1
rl0   1500  24.201.45/24  modemcable238.4    50554     -   54968080    54832     -    2559305     -
                       ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net
xl0   1500  <Link#2>    00:10:5a:e2:60:c3    32386     0    2406465    48378     0   68497930     8
                       1:0:5e:0:0:1
xl0   1500  192.168.56/25 neutrino            5498     -     694497     2880     -     461228     -
                       ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net
xl0   1500  192.168.56/25 ns2                  145     -      10091        0     -          0     -
                       ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net
xl0   1500  192.168.56/25 gw100                  0     -          0        0     -          0     -
                       ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net
lo0   16384 <Link#3>                           137     0      22385      137     0      22385     0
lo0   16384 127           localhost             32     -       2139       32     -       2139     -
                       ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST.net




Valentin Nechayev wrote:
 Sat, May 26, 2001 at 21:35:25, leclercn (Normand Leclerc) wrote about "ip_divert blues (was natd blues)": 

     I recently posted help on a slowdown problem when using natd.  I 
found out that ipfilter (ipnat) is doing the very same thing: slowdown.
I trimed down the kernel to almost nothing, I removed a network adapter
I didn't need; in brief, I did everything I could think of ... nothing
has changed. My cable modem is as slow as an ADSL.
I have two rules in my firewall when using natd:
- 100 divert natd all from any to any via rl0
- 200 pass all from any to any
On the nat machine, I start a transfer with my ISP's ftp server to be
able to reach maximum transfer speed. I get something like 50k/s. On
the fly, I add a third rule: 50 pass all from any to any. Suddently, my
transfer rate goes up to nearly 170k/s.

You didn't do standard system load meterings. Please tell:
`uptime' output (LA values),
`top' output - does natd occupy top position or not; exact WCPU and CPU values;
`systat -io' output - percents of processor in each mode (idle/user/sys/intr);
`systat -vm' output - number of interrupts, context switches, syscalls
per second;

Also try get collisions, input and output errors on interface with netstat.

All these data may help with diagnostics, but without them diagnostics
is almost impossible.

   The nat machine is a P90 with 32megs of ram.  It has a 3com 3B905BTX 
and a cheaper nic connected to the cable modem (realtek).
Ideas? Has the IP divertion become that slow?


/netch

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--------------010207000404040705080502-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 5:14:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3651937B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 05:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 153zR7-0005IE-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 May 2001 14:14:21 +0200 Received: from a0f6d.pppool.de ([213.6.15.109] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx0.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 153zR5-0000RQ-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 27 May 2001 14:14:19 +0200 Received: (qmail 1885 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2001 12:14:39 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:14:39 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: make buildworld Message-ID: <20010527141439.A1714@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi y'all! make buildworld after downloading a recent freebsd-stable from "releng4.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386" leads to: ---------8<------------------ cc -pipe -pipe -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/pr eproc/refer -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1 -DRET_TYPE_SRAND_IS_VOID=1 -DHAVE_SYS_NERR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_ERRLIST=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE_FMOD=1 -DHAVE_STRTOL=1 -DHAVE_GETCWD=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRNCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRSEP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/in clude -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o refer command.o label.o ref.o refer.o token.o ibbib/libbib.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l ibgroff/libgroff.a -lm command.o: In function `database_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xbd8): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' command.o: In function `search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xeba): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `no_search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xec5): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xee0): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o(.text+0xeea): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o: In function `no_search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xef9): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `main': refer.o(.text+0x206): undefined reference to `verify_flag' refer.o(.text+0x51b): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' refer.o(.text+0x7d4): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0x8a5): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `possibly_load_default_database(void)': refer.o(.text+0xb12): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o: In function `find_reference(char const *, int)': refer.o(.text+0x2bc9): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::search_list_iterator(search_list *, char const *)' refer.o(.text+0x2bf0): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2c45): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d00): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d62): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2dba): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0': refer.o(.text+0x37c1): undefined reference to `search_list::search_list(void)' refer.o(.text+0x381f): undefined reference to `search_list::~search_list(void)' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer. *** Error code 1 ---------8<------------------ this is, of course, not all. doing "make most" leaves ls(1), of all things, complaining about missing externals in libtermcap, and i'd bet my fathers shoes that the next build will fail for the same reason. my question: is there a freebsd 4.3 stable to be got where "make buildworld" will succeed with the option of upgrading and reconfiguring the kernel as well? clemens fischer ps: please Cc: me, i'm not on freebsd-questions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 5:48:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3CC37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 05:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4RCmdV41303; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:48:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f4RCmXV41295; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:48:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010527084558.01bdfa40@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 08:48:32 -0400 To: Raymond Wiker , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-Reply-To: <15120.58075.797050.941099@raw.grenland.fast.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recall something about this on another FreeBSD list a week or so ago. Supposedly there is a firmware update available that fixes this problem. ---Mike At 01:19 PM 5/27/2001 +0200, Raymond Wiker wrote: > Around the 20th of March there was a thread on freebsd-stable >concerning crashes that were due to the combination of 3ware >controllers and Mysql. I've now had a couple of these (with a week or >so between them), so I'm wondering whether there was a conclusion to >this thread. > > Note: I have been running a 4.2-STABLE as of February 20th; I >*thought* that I was more up-to-date than that. I'm updating this >machine just now, but if the problem was not resolved, I'm going to >move the Mysql server to a different machine (I've got a spare 18GB >SCSI disk somewhere :-) > > Brief details of the setup: > Dell Precision 220 > Pentium III 600MHz > 256 MB RAMBUS RAM > GENERIC kernel > 3ware 2-channel controller: > >ID 0 3ware 3W-6200 disk controller >Array Unit 0 Striped 64K (RAID 0) 143.17 GB OK >Port 0 IBM-DTLA-307075 71.59 GB OK >Port 1 IBM-DTLA-307075 71.59 GB OK > >Controller ID: 0 >Monitor version: ME6X 1.00.00.004 >Firmware version: FE6X 1.00.43.003 >BIOS version: BEXX 1.04.00.009 >PCB version: Rev2 >Achip version: V4.40 >Pchip version: V5.60 >Model: 6200 >Unit count: 1 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 6: 7:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6119C37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 06:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1540GW-0004zA-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:07:28 +0200 Received: from a0f6d.pppool.de ([213.6.15.109] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx3.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1540GV-00010H-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:07:27 +0200 Received: (qmail 2171 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2001 13:07:47 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:07:47 +0200 From: clemensF To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: gdinolt@pacbell.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 10:58:55PM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Jordan Hubbard: > Whoops, my mistake! I left some header files off the commit - done. this seems to be a general problem. i'm having numerous troubles with `make buildworld', and there are always symbols missing or undefined, or programs called with wrong flags in share/mk-makefiles. looking at the directories one can easily spot new sourcefiles combined with bronze age headers. the mk-file collections in usr/src are way different from those in share/mk, but they have the same names. i can't make world, not even a little kernel rebuild. what i need is a clean set of files matching the intended dependencies. how can i get those for 4.3? it is very important! i've cvsup'ed 4.0, 5, 4.3 and i downloaded a complete usr/src from releng_4.freebsd.org/pub, but all builds fail miserably. clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 8:23:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A40F37B50E for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Florian.Heigl@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 3805 invoked by uid 0); 27 May 2001 15:23:41 -0000 Received: from b7960.pppool.de (213.7.121.96) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 27 May 2001 15:23:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:21:00 +0200 From: Florian Heigl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Florian Heigl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16515726980.20010527172100@gmx.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Xfree 4.03 / Nvidia TNT only in 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a little stuck here, I installed Xfree 4.03 from the ports and everything went fine, as far as I understood. Afterwards I configured it and it's using the nv server, which according to the log file detects the TNT. But it definitely sets an 8-bit mode. I don't really know how to change it, I assume it's just an configuration error on my side, but I don't know where to look. Maybe someone can give me a hint? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 8:36:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (dc-mx08.cluster0.hsacorp.net [209.225.8.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F6A37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from duhring@charter.net) Received: from [24.217.148.161] (HELO dave.uhring.com) by dc-mx08.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4.6) with SMTP id 5926048; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:42:27 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dave Uhring To: Florian Heigl , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfree 4.03 / Nvidia TNT only in 8bit Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:36:31 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <16515726980.20010527172100@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <16515726980.20010527172100@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01052710363100.26933@dave.uhring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday 27 May 2001 10:21, Florian Heigl wrote: > I'm a little stuck here, I installed Xfree 4.03 from the ports and > everything went fine, as far as I understood. Afterwards I configured > it and it's using the nv server, which according to the log file > detects the TNT. But it definitely sets an 8-bit mode. > I don't really know how to change it, I assume it's just an > configuration error on my side, but I don't know where to look. > > Maybe someone can give me a hint? > Here's a hint. This one is for an ATI video adapter. Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "ATI Mach64" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" EndSubsection EndSection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 9:18:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.javanet.com (mail1.javanet.com [205.219.162.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6DC37B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx) Received: from wintermute.sekt7.org (146-115-66-7.c3-0.lex-ubr1.sbo-lex.ma.cable.rcn.com [146.115.66.7]) by mail1.javanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA15704 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:21:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Evan S X-Sender: kaworu@wintermute.sekt7 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: softupdates + hw.ata.wc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Are there any adverse effects if you have both softupdates and hw.ata.wc enabeled? Thanks, - ------------------------------------------ Evan Sarmiento | GPG id: 9D0BDB6C ems@open-root.org | http://sekt7.org/~ems/ - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (SunOS) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iEYEARECAAYFAjsRKacACgkQa7CFsJ0L22xKZQCgnDEX8CSkgGw2jJjTS3Rqg/su cZIAnjerBCzfQE+8y3z/g2bYWY8BpxGJ =xJiA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 9:20:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isris.pair.com (isris.pair.com [209.68.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C73A537B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rooneg@isris.pair.com) Received: (qmail 87971 invoked by uid 3130); 27 May 2001 16:20:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:20:35 -0400 From: Garrett Rooney To: Evan S Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: softupdates + hw.ata.wc Message-ID: <20010527122033.A84439@electricjellyfish.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kaworu@sektor7.ath.cx on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:21:54PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:21:54PM -0400, Evan S wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > Are there any adverse effects if you have both softupdates and hw.ata.wc > enabeled? yes, read any of the numerous threads on virtually every freebsd mailing list about this subject over the last few weeks for the details. in short, some ide drives lie about when data is actually written to the disk if write cacheing is enabled, and this makes softupdates not work. if you care about your data, keep hw.ata.wc off. -- garrett rooney Unix was not designed to stop you from rooneg@electricjellyfish.net doing stupid things, because that would http://electricjellyfish.net/ stop you from doing clever things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 10: 6: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from digitaltux.com (24.68.90.83.on.wave.home.com [24.68.90.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6FA37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zoltan@digitaltux.com) Received: from digitaltux.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with SMTP id f4NLbfD9004773 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 17:37:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200105232137.f4NLbfD9004773@digitaltux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Zoltan Kraus" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: options in make.conf X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.5 On linux/CSV Date: 23 May 2001 17:37:40 EDT Reply-To: "Zoltan Kraus" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, What CFLAGS should be in make.conf to optimize my system binaries for i686? I've heard people saying that some flags make the system unstable at times. I just want to make sure. Thanks, Zoltan Kraus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 10: 6: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from digitaltux.com (24.68.90.83.on.wave.home.com [24.68.90.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A347637B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zoltan@digitaltux.com) Received: from digitaltux.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with SMTP id f4NLP3D9004691 for ; Wed, 23 May 2001 17:25:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200105232125.f4NLP3D9004691@digitaltux.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Zoltan Kraus" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: CFLAGS in make.conf X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.5 On linux/CSV Date: 23 May 2001 17:25:01 EDT Reply-To: "Zoltan Kraus" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, What CFLAGS should be in make.conf to optimize my system binaries for i686? I've heard people saying that some flags make the system unstable at times. I just want to make sure. Thanks, Zoltan Kraus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 10: 6:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.jaring.my (smtp3.jaring.my [192.228.128.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009D637B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kar@mglorysb.com) Received: from svr.mgsb.domain ([202.187.194.33]) by smtp3.jaring.my (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f4RH6D029308; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:06:18 +0800 (MYT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: K Karthik Reply-To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com To: Evan S , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates + hw.ata.wc Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:08:17 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Chameleon-Return-To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01052801081701.07054@svr.mgsb.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using softupdates + hw.ata.wc=1 (now from loader.conf) for months with no problems. I have UPS for my servers. On Sunday 27 May 2001 16:21, Evan S wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello, > > Are there any adverse effects if you have both softupdates and hw.ata.wc > enabeled? > > Thanks, > > - ------------------------------------------ > Evan Sarmiento | GPG id: 9D0BDB6C > ems@open-root.org | http://sekt7.org/~ems/ > - ------------------------------------------ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (SunOS) > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > iEYEARECAAYFAjsRKacACgkQa7CFsJ0L22xKZQCgnDEX8CSkgGw2jJjTS3Rqg/su > cZIAnjerBCzfQE+8y3z/g2bYWY8BpxGJ > =xJiA > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 11:42:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pride.gamepoint.net (pride.gamepoint.net [195.193.163.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39B137B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gog@gamepoint.net) Received: by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix, from userid 138) id BCCF22D02; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C5CDC for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:42:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Roderick van Domburg To: Subject: Re: softupdates + hw.ata.wc In-Reply-To: <01052801081701.07054@svr.mgsb.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, K Karthik wrote: > I am using softupdates + hw.ata.wc=1 (now from loader.conf) for months with > no problems. I have UPS for my servers. As a long-time stalker of these mailing lists I have read the discussion held about this very subject in the past few weeks with great interest. However, I reckon that everything has been said about it... I would kindly suggest everyone that missed those threads to retrieve them from the archives and draw their conclusions. My two cents, -- Roderick 'GoG' van Domburg - ICQ UIN 7798700 GamePoint - The Dutch On-Line Gaming Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 11:46:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pride.gamepoint.net (pride.gamepoint.net [195.193.163.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C3537B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:46:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gog@gamepoint.net) Received: by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix, from userid 138) id 147E72D02; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:46:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03701DC for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:46:35 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:46:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Roderick van Domburg To: Subject: Re: CFLAGS in make.conf In-Reply-To: <200105232125.f4NLP3D9004691@digitaltux.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23 May 2001, Zoltan Kraus wrote: > What CFLAGS should be in make.conf to optimize my system binaries for i686? > I've heard people saying that some flags make the system unstable at times. I > just want to make sure. http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/makeworld.html#AEN13216 "As a typical user (not a FreeBSD developer), you will probably want to copy the CFLAGS and NOPROFILE lines found in /etc/defaults/make.conf to /etc/make.conf and uncomment them." -- Roderick 'GoG' van Domburg - ICQ UIN 7798700 GamePoint - The Dutch On-Line Gaming Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 11:51:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF20C37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:51:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RIxkA01367; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105271859.f4RIxkA01367@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Raymond Wiker , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 08:48:32 EDT." <4.2.2.20010527084558.01bdfa40@192.168.0.12> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:59:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I recall something about this on another FreeBSD list a week or so ago. > Supposedly there is a firmware update available that fixes this problem. It's not clear whether Raymond is talking about the same symptoms or not (as he doesn't clarify this). It's not certain that 3ware have actually fixed the problem yet; last I heard they were still working on it. > ---Mike > > At 01:19 PM 5/27/2001 +0200, Raymond Wiker wrote: > > Around the 20th of March there was a thread on freebsd-stable > >concerning crashes that were due to the combination of 3ware > >controllers and Mysql. I've now had a couple of these (with a week or > >so between them), so I'm wondering whether there was a conclusion to > >this thread. > > > > Note: I have been running a 4.2-STABLE as of February 20th; I > >*thought* that I was more up-to-date than that. I'm updating this > >machine just now, but if the problem was not resolved, I'm going to > >move the Mysql server to a different machine (I've got a spare 18GB > >SCSI disk somewhere :-) > > > > Brief details of the setup: > > Dell Precision 220 > > Pentium III 600MHz > > 256 MB RAMBUS RAM > > GENERIC kernel > > 3ware 2-channel controller: > > > >ID 0 3ware 3W-6200 disk controller > >Array Unit 0 Striped 64K (RAID 0) 143.17 GB OK > >Port 0 IBM-DTLA-307075 71.59 GB OK > >Port 1 IBM-DTLA-307075 71.59 GB OK > > > >Controller ID: 0 > >Monitor version: ME6X 1.00.00.004 > >Firmware version: FE6X 1.00.43.003 > >BIOS version: BEXX 1.04.00.009 > >PCB version: Rev2 > >Achip version: V4.40 > >Pchip version: V5.60 > >Model: 6200 > >Unit count: 1 > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 > Network Administration, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 12:10:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5B937B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:10:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4RJAFc30690; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:10:15 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:10:15 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Zoltan Kraus Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CFLAGS in make.conf Message-ID: <20010527121015.A22531@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200105232125.f4NLP3D9004691@digitaltux.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105232125.f4NLP3D9004691@digitaltux.com>; from zoltan@digitaltux.com on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 05:25:01PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 05:25:01PM -0400, Zoltan Kraus wrote: > What CFLAGS should be in make.conf to optimize my system binaries for i686? > I've heard people saying that some flags make the system unstable at times. I > just want to make sure. In general it is unwise to mess with CFLAGS. In 4.3 and above, you can set the CPUTYPE variable to compile your system with appropriate options in you will be using and compiling this build only on machines of the same type. You can choose from options including p2, p3, and pentiumpro for the various i686 class CPUs. See /etc/defaults/make.conf for the list of choices. This will add appropriate CFLAGS to all compiles and will enable processor-specific assemably where it is both available and appropriatly configured. In the base system this only works for OpenSSL, but support is being expanded in ports as well. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EVEWXY6L6fI4GtQRAqE9AKDQKJI+culYuX4Pl2kAQLtBBMvpBACfZP2q Reekcv+actzP4RaaIxFhtYU= =Ap7S -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 12:22:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB2637B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RJM5O22334; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: rabat@web.de Cc: gdinolt@pacbell.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c In-Reply-To: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010527122205K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:22:05 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: clemensF Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:07:47 +0200 > this seems to be a general problem. i'm having numerous troubles with > `make buildworld', and there are always symbols missing or undefined, or > programs called with wrong flags in share/mk-makefiles. Well, I think you may be overstating the case a bit (or you have a completely spammed source tree). The -stable sources worked just fine up until the point that I left the header files off that commit, and my -stable snapshot machine shows that they're working just fine again. I also just completed a successful buildworld on my desktop box here. You might try grabbing the sources again or even freshly installing your host machine since it sounds like things are seriously messed up on your end. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 12:31: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3557937B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4RJUf081931; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4RJUe118675; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105271930.f4RJUe118675@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: fonvi@easynet.fr Subject: Re: CVSup through ssh tunnel In-Reply-To: <20010527105755.A2580@vobiscum.styx.org> References: <20010526150646.A12866@vobiscum.styx.org> <20010526185258.A19791@vobiscum.styx.org> <200105262153.f4QLrIE16516@vashon.polstra.com> <20010527105755.A2580@vobiscum.styx.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20010527105755.A2580@vobiscum.styx.org>, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Hmm, i think i'm going to give up :( > This problem seems so silly it runs for everything but src-* Wait, don't give up yet! There's got to be a reasonable explanation for this. If you'll tar up your entire "/usr/sup" tree and your supfile, I'll take a look at it and figure out what's going on. I'll contact you off the list to arrange transfer of the tarball. Don't worry, we'll get to the bottom of this. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 17:15:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D3337B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4S0Fgl07749; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105280015.f4S0Fgl07749@earth.backplane.com> To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ps@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pipe fix for -stable References: <20010526032743.L17514@superconductor.rush.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Done! The 'rpipe = wpipe = NULL' fix applies to more then just PIPE_NODIRECT pipes. -Matt :Hi, I realized that I've got some patches backlogged for the pipe :code in -stable. It fixes certain out of memory panics (but only :when PIPE_NODIRECT is set). I'd really like to MFC my fixes however :I've got a flight to NYC in a couple of hours and my access to :-stable will be limited for the next week. : :So... anyone want to give: : http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/sys_pipe.c :a test drive under -stable and possibly commit it? : :It really ought to go in if it's correct, obviously it could :use some review as well. : :thanks, :-- :-Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 17:16:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sand.wit.ch (mowitch.demon.co.uk [212.229.125.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0A437B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mo@wit.ch) Received: from [192.168.1.35] (big-apple.wit.ch [192.168.1.35]) by sand.wit.ch (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S0GN140537 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:16:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mo@wit.ch) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:17:53 +0100 Subject: Re: digital camera From: Moritz Willers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's most interesting! > I use a "FujiFilm Image Memory Card Reader, model SM-R1", which works > fairly well under FreeBSD (I'm using 4.3-R). Hot-plugging the USB cable I have a similar device (integral smartmedia reader/writer) which I'm convinced should be easy to attach but I haven't been able to do so so far. You say: > I did need to build a kernel with the SCSI drive IDs wired > down - otherwise, the USB reader got assigned da0 at boot time, and the > kernel then tried to use it as the root filesystem! my card reader does claim to not use the mass storage protocol and thus is registered as ugen0. I did not read the initial post as saying the smart media card being the problem, but most of the readers to be. Mine certainly is. :( - mo some info on the reader taken off a Mac ... yes their USB support and tools are outstanding! (mark how the Interface Class is set to 16, ie proprietary!) Composite device from Genesys Logic Inc. Device Descriptor Descriptor Version Number:. 0x0100 Device Class:.............. 0 (Composite) Device Subclass:........... 0 Device Protocol:........... 0 Device MaxPacketSize:...... 8 Device VendorID/ProductID:. 0x05e3/0x0131 (Genesys Logic Inc.) Device Version Number:..... 0x0000 Number of Configurations:.. 0x0001 Configuration Descriptor Total Length of Descriptor: 39 (0x27) Number of Interfaces:...... 1 Configuration Value:....... 1 Attributes:................ 0x40 (Self Powered) Max Power:................. 48 ma Interface #0 - Unknown (0x10) Alternate Setting:... 0 Number of Endpoints:. 3 Interface Class:..... 16 (Unknown (0x10)) Interface Subclass:.. 1 Interface Protocol:.. 0 Endpoint - Bulk input Endpoint Address:.... 0x81 (IN) Attributes:.......... 0x02 (Bulk) Max Packet Size:..... 64 Polling Interval:.... 0 ms Endpoint - Bulk output Endpoint Address:.... 0x02 (OUT) Attributes:.......... 0x02 (Bulk) Max Packet Size:..... 64 Polling Interval:.... 0 ms Endpoint - Interrupt input Endpoint Address:.... 0x83 (IN) Attributes:.......... 0x03 (Interrupt) Max Packet Size:..... 8 Polling Interval:.... 8 ms Endpoint Status Endpoint 0 (Control): Idle Endpoint 1 (Bulk): Idle Endpoint 2 (Bulk): Idle Driver Information Driver Descriptor Version:. 0x0000 Driver Name:............... USB Storage Class Driver Version:............ 1.0d0 Driver VendorID/ProductID:. 0x05e3/0x0131 Driver Class:.............. 0 (Composite) Driver SubClass:........... 0 Driver Protocol:........... 0 Driver Type:............... Vendor specific Driver Loading Options Match Generic Device:.... no (driver does NOT support other Composite devices) Allow interface match:... yes Protocol match required:. no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 17:31:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B1037B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 154Aw9-0002pn-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:31:09 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:31:09 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: digital camera Message-ID: <20010527203109.B1812@pir.net> Reply-To: stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mo@wit.ch on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 01:17:53AM +0100 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Moritz Willers probably said: > my card reader does claim to not use the mass storage protocol and thus is > registered as ugen0. I did not read the initial post as saying the smart > media card being the problem, but most of the readers to be. Mine certainly > is. :( I think you're out of luck unless you want to reverse engineer and implement the proprietry protocol for your device, since it's not doing umass. I have a smartmedia -> pcmcia adaptor that works quite well, though. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 18:43:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from krycek.zoominternet.net (krycek.zoominternet.net [63.67.120.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 525A337B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmmiller@cvzoom.net) Received: (qmail 5197 invoked from network); 28 May 2001 01:40:23 -0000 Received: from acs-24-154-36-252.zoominternet.net (HELO cvzoom.net) (24.154.36.252) by krycek.zoominternet.net with SMTP; 28 May 2001 01:40:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3B11AD2B.653C4B3E@cvzoom.net> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:43:07 -0400 From: Donn Miller X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: digital camera References: <20010527203109.B1812@pir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Radcliffe wrote: > I think you're out of luck unless you want to reverse engineer and > implement the proprietry protocol for your device, since it's not > doing umass. There's a program called "portmon" for Windows that you can use for doing this. It's pretty nice, and it reports on all the syscalls/data going on on every port. (I tried writing my own Windows program to monitor the data on COM1:, but it didn't work, because you can't have more than one program opening the same serial port at the same time. You have to implement a VxD, and that's what portmon does. I also got some BSOD's when I tried running my own program and the camera software at the same time. 8-() To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 20:30:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA08037B43C for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA15513; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:29:19 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda15510; Sun May 27 20:29:04 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f4S3SwB35918; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdZ35916; Sun May 27 20:28:42 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4S3SJ602648; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105280328.f4S3SJ602648@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdfG2644; Sun May 27 20:27:31 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com Cc: Evan S , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates + hw.ata.wc In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 May 2001 01:08:17 -0000." <01052801081701.07054@svr.mgsb.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 20:27:31 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <01052801081701.07054@svr.mgsb.domain>, K Karthik writes: > I am using softupdates + hw.ata.wc=1 (now from loader.conf) for months with > no problems. I have UPS for my servers. Why use softupdates then? You may as well mount your filesystems async. If your primary concern is performance, not reliability, async is the way to go. According to a paper on Softupdates I read, async is about 3% faster than softupdates. Any systems I manage drawing power from a UPS have WC turned off and use softupdates. I've seen too many instances where human error has negated the effect of UPS. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC > > On Sunday 27 May 2001 16:21, Evan S wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hello, > > > > Are there any adverse effects if you have both softupdates and hw.ata.wc > > enabeled? > > > > Thanks, > > > > - ------------------------------------------ > > Evan Sarmiento | GPG id: 9D0BDB6C > > ems@open-root.org | http://sekt7.org/~ems/ > > - ------------------------------------------ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (SunOS) > > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAjsRKacACgkQa7CFsJ0L22xKZQCgnDEX8CSkgGw2jJjTS3Rqg/su > > cZIAnjerBCzfQE+8y3z/g2bYWY8BpxGJ > > =xJiA > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 20:38:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.carracing.com (mail.carracing.com [12.24.160.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798B37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 20:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@carracing.com) Received: by mail.carracing.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94E8113134; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.carracing.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FB0F45D for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:42:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:42:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Bill Desjardins To: Subject: make kernel broken? Message-ID: <20010527232459.U90143-100000@mail.carracing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. Happy Memorial Day! from a cvsup tonight (~9:30pm EST) make buildworld works fine, but a: make kernel KERNCONF=GENERIC (stock GENERIC) I get: perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -h /usr/src/sys/pci/pci_if.m perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -c /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_if.m perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -h /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usb_if.m perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -c /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m perl5 /usr/src/sys/kern/makeops.pl -h /usr/src/sys/isa/isa_if.m make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/crypto/rc4/rc4.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. setup# exit exit After taking a look to see what could be wrong, the directory: /usr/src/sys/crypto does not exist in the src tree. has anyone else seen this from a recent cvsup? I have run cvsup with both -s and no -s. I had the problem with the tomcat port as everyone else and fixed it by deleting the correct file & re-cvsuping without any problems. I know thats not src related, but other than that this src tree has never had problems since 4.0R. same supfile has been used as well. is it me or the tree :) Thanks, Bill -- Bill Desjardins - bill@carracing.com - (USA) 305.205.8644 Unix/Network Consulting - perl/mod_perl/SQL development http://CarRacing.com - Powered by FreeBSD/mod_perl http://www.FreeBSD.org - The Best OS money cant buy! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 21: 2:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-155.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD8B37B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:02:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 50EBF66DF0; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:02:49 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: clemensF Cc: Jordan Hubbard , gdinolt@pacbell.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:07:47PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:07:47PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > Jordan Hubbard: >=20 > > Whoops, my mistake! I left some header files off the commit - done. >=20 > this seems to be a general problem. i'm having numerous troubles with > `make buildworld', and there are always symbols missing or undefined, or > programs called with wrong flags in share/mk-makefiles. This sounds a lot like corruption of your local sources or a failure in the way you're trying to build them; there isn't a problem with the RELENG_4 branch, except for isolated points when someone breaks something (and then fixes it). Kris --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Ec3oWry0BWjoQKURAgd9AJ9UOZS9gO+yIJKpNBsQUbxmxbag6gCgxBFn /M0pX6suhUV43VHHCc7N4Yo= =7bWt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --i9LlY+UWpKt15+FH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 21: 5: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-155.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C0A37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B0BF966DF0; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:05:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Bill Desjardins Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make kernel broken? Message-ID: <20010527210502.C51861@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010527232459.U90143-100000@mail.carracing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010527232459.U90143-100000@mail.carracing.com>; from bill@carracing.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:42:07PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:42:07PM +0000, Bill Desjardins wrote: > is it me or the tree :) It's you; you're missing the src-sys-crypto sources. Compare carefully with the example cvsupfiles. Kris --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Ec5tWry0BWjoQKURAibaAKCz+hLsv16s++slxvBc3pTzJnOcqgCgoEcK vJoGJxFWIUv3hENo1TKMPR8= =vCZg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 21:34:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.carracing.com (mail.carracing.com [12.24.160.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D3F37B42C for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@carracing.com) Received: by mail.carracing.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F26BD13134; Mon, 28 May 2001 00:37:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.carracing.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07FBF45D; Mon, 28 May 2001 00:37:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:37:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Bill Desjardins To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Subject: Re: make kernel broken? In-Reply-To: <20010527210502.C51861@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: <20010528003650.L90143-100000@mail.carracing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG All set, thanks. Not sure why I hadnt had the problem before, but its fine now. Thanks again, Bill -- Bill Desjardins - bill@carracing.com - (USA) 305.205.8644 Unix/Network Consulting - perl/mod_perl/SQL development http://CarRacing.com - Powered by FreeBSD/mod_perl http://www.FreeBSD.org - The Best OS money cant buy! On Sun, 27 May 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:42:07PM +0000, Bill Desjardins wrote: > > > is it me or the tree :) > > It's you; you're missing the src-sys-crypto sources. Compare > carefully with the example cvsupfiles. > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 27 23: 5:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE58737B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from svzserv.kemerovo.su (kost [213.184.65.82]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA46028; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:05:17 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Message-ID: <3B11EA9D.94FB6BC0@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:05:17 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem References: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > > Updating collection ports-www/cvs > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-aa > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-ab > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/tomcat.sh > > Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files > > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory > > not empty > > See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 I run a local mirror of FreeBSD CVS Repository. Now when a client uses my mirror, it obtains Server warning: Cannot open "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files,v": No such file or directory How can I resolve this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 1:48:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A3A37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:48:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbedynek@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from mbedynek@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04939 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:48:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 03:48:49 -0500 From: Matt Bedynek To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: updating with cvsup, buildworld, etc. Message-ID: <20010528034849.A4863@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I was wondering what is the best method for updating boxes based on a sync'ed source? I run 8 freebsd boxes and I'm thinking of syncing the src's on one and mount via NFS to share that to the others. I would like to hear what others here have done to simlify a task such as this. Thanks for your time! -- Matt Bedynek mattb@insync.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 2:21:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pride.gamepoint.net (pride.gamepoint.net [195.193.163.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CEF37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gog@gamepoint.net) Received: by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix, from userid 138) id 835FC2D0A; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:21:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pride.gamepoint.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72520DC for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:21:23 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:21:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Roderick van Domburg To: Subject: Re: updating with cvsup, buildworld, etc. In-Reply-To: <20010528034849.A4863@vellocet.insync.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, Matt Bedynek wrote: > I run 8 freebsd boxes and I'm thinking of syncing the src's on one > and mount via NFS to share that to the others. I would like to hear > what others here have done to simlify a task such as this. Actually, if you were planning on using NFS for such a task, you could have the NFS server build the world and then have all of the NFS clients simply install it. That would be even more efficient than having the different boxes build their worlds individually. The above assuming that the boxes share a compatible architecture, of course. -- Roderick 'GoG' van Domburg - ICQ UIN 7798700 GamePoint - The Dutch On-Line Gaming Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 2:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AD137B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:48:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbedynek@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from mbedynek@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07782 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 04:48:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 04:48:56 -0500 From: Matt Bedynek To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: compile error Message-ID: <20010528044856.B4863@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'ed the lastest sources for stable and get the following tring to make buildworld. r/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/mkheaders.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/config -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/mkoptions.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/config -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o config config.o main.o lang.o mkioconf.o mkmakefile.o mkheaders.o mkoptions.o -ll sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 config /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf; make obj; make depend; make all; make install /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf created for /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf ===> doc /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc created for /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc make: don't know how to make bool-array.cc. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Matt Bedynek mattb@insync.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 3:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tepid.osl.fast.no (tepid.osl.fast.no [213.188.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D23737B628 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:09:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) Received: from raw.grenland.fast.no.fast.no (fw-oslo.fast.no [213.188.9.129]) by tepid.osl.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20395; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:09:54 GMT (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) From: Raymond Wiker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.9200.25027.249780@raw.grenland.fast.no> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:09:52 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-Reply-To: <200105271859.f4RIxkA01367@mass.dis.org> References: <4.2.2.20010527084558.01bdfa40@192.168.0.12> <200105271859.f4RIxkA01367@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > > > > I recall something about this on another FreeBSD list a week or so ago. > > Supposedly there is a firmware update available that fixes this problem. > > It's not clear whether Raymond is talking about the same symptoms or not > (as he doesn't clarify this). It's not certain that 3ware have actually > fixed the problem yet; last I heard they were still working on it. Hum. Ok. The actual error messages (from dmesg and /var/log/messages) were of the form "twe0: command failed - device failure". At this point it was impossible to do *anything* to the filesystem(s) on the disks connected to the 3ware controller. (I have seen something similar a good few years back, with a particular Seagate SCSI disk model. Not that this is relevant, though.) I've looked at 3Ware's web site, and they claim that the new firmware (version 6.6) fixes certain problems with RAID 5 configurations. My configuration is RAID 0, so it is entirely possible that the new firmware will have no effect for me. Version 6.6 supposedly requires an updated driver - is the driver in -stable so updated? If so, I'll go ahead and backup my data and upgrade the firmware. //Raymond. -- Raymond Wiker Raymond.Wiker@fast.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 3:17:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server.zoda.com (server.zoda.com [212.125.177.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C35F37B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phuc@eunet.no) Received: from insomnia.eunet.no ([62.70.30.130]) by server.zoda.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/GN) with ESMTP id MAA24943 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:31:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phuc@eunet.no) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010528120733.00be67f8@paradroid.circuit.no> X-Sender: phuc@pop.eunet.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:17:48 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Phuc Ngoc Huynh Subject: Packages link on releng4.freebsd.org and stable.freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3-20010527-STABLE, but it looks like the package-link points to: packages -> ../../../packages-4-release which doesn't exist :( I've searched around the ftp-site, and wondered if packages should point to: ../../../ports/i386/packages-4.3-release instead? The point is I can't seem to install FreeBSD. Any ideas anyone? -- Phuc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 3:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1651F37B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:19:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SARVA10559; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Raymond Wiker Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 May 2001 12:09:52 +0200." <15122.9200.25027.249780@raw.grenland.fast.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 03:27:30 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Mike Smith writes: > > > > > > I recall something about this on another FreeBSD list a week or so ago. > > > Supposedly there is a firmware update available that fixes this problem. > > > > It's not clear whether Raymond is talking about the same symptoms or not > > (as he doesn't clarify this). It's not certain that 3ware have actually > > fixed the problem yet; last I heard they were still working on it. > > Hum. Ok. The actual error messages (from dmesg and > /var/log/messages) were of the form > "twe0: command failed - device failure". At this point it was > impossible to do *anything* to the filesystem(s) on the disks > connected to the 3ware controller. This is a totally different and unrelated failure. It's not clear what is going wrong here though; I'll have to ask 3ware what this suggests. > I've looked at 3Ware's web site, and they claim that the new > firmware (version 6.6) fixes certain problems with RAID 5 > configurations. My configuration is RAID 0, so it is entirely possible > that the new firmware will have no effect for me. The RAID 5 issue is not related to this (and does not affect FreeBSD). > Version 6.6 supposedly requires an updated driver - is the > driver in -stable so updated? If so, I'll go ahead and backup my data > and upgrade the firmware. No driver changes are required. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 3:36:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tepid.osl.fast.no (tepid.osl.fast.no [213.188.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A795737B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 03:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) Received: from raw.grenland.fast.no.fast.no (fw-oslo.fast.no [213.188.9.129]) by tepid.osl.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21263; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:36:25 GMT (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) From: Raymond Wiker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.10790.214486.77789@raw.grenland.fast.no> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:36:22 +0200 To: Mike Smith Cc: Raymond Wiker , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-Reply-To: <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> References: <15122.9200.25027.249780@raw.grenland.fast.no> <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith writes: > > Hum. Ok. The actual error messages (from dmesg and > > /var/log/messages) were of the form "twe0: command failed - > > device failure". At this point it was impossible to do *anything* > > to the filesystem(s) on the disks connected to the 3ware > > controller. > > This is a totally different and unrelated failure. It's not clear > what is going wrong here though; I'll have to ask 3ware what this > suggests. OK. As I said in my first message, I was running -stable as of Feb. 26th. The March thread on -stable indicated that there were recent fixes for race conditions; I'm going to just watch this machine for a while to see if it works better. Thanks for your help. //Raymond. -- Raymond Wiker Raymond.Wiker@fast.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 5: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hansa.naverex.kiev.ua (hansa.naverex.kiev.ua [213.169.65.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3105937B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 05:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@hansa.kiev.ua) Received: from hansa.kiev.ua (unix1.local [192.168.3.198]) by hansa.naverex.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SC1dT10977 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:01:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dima@hansa.kiev.ua) Received: (from dima@localhost) by hansa.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SC0O007179 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:00:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dima) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:00:24 +0300 (EEST) From: Dmitry Liakh Message-Id: <200105281200.f4SC0O007179@hansa.kiev.ua> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: help Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG help To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 5: 9: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186737B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 05:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4SC92U47831; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:09:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.3/8.11.2av) with ESMTP id f4SC8vV47822; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:08:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010528080753.01f8ad48@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:08:56 -0400 To: Raymond Wiker From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15122.10790.214486.77789@raw.grenland.fast.no> References: <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> <15122.9200.25027.249780@raw.grenland.fast.no> <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Does the raid management daemon show anything odd about the raid0 stripe prior to it locking up ? ---Mike At 12:36 PM 5/28/2001 +0200, Raymond Wiker wrote: >Mike Smith writes: > > > Hum. Ok. The actual error messages (from dmesg and > > > /var/log/messages) were of the form "twe0: command failed - > > > device failure". At this point it was impossible to do *anything* > > > to the filesystem(s) on the disks connected to the 3ware > > > controller. > > > > This is a totally different and unrelated failure. It's not clear > > what is going wrong here though; I'll have to ask 3ware what this > > suggests. > > OK. As I said in my first message, I was running -stable as of >Feb. 26th. The March thread on -stable indicated that there were >recent fixes for race conditions; I'm going to just watch this machine >for a while to see if it works better. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 5:14:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tepid.osl.fast.no (tepid.osl.fast.no [213.188.9.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D6B37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 05:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) Received: from raw.grenland.fast.no.fast.no (fw-oslo.fast.no [213.188.9.129]) by tepid.osl.fast.no (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24786; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:14:13 GMT (envelope-from Raymond.Wiker@fast.no) From: Raymond Wiker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.16658.994836.529058@raw.grenland.fast.no> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:14:10 +0200 To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Raymond Wiker , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3ware & mysql, again In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010528080753.01f8ad48@192.168.0.12> References: <200105281027.f4SARVA10559@mass.dis.org> <15122.9200.25027.249780@raw.grenland.fast.no> <4.2.2.20010528080753.01f8ad48@192.168.0.12> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Tancsa writes: > > Does the raid management daemon show anything odd about the raid0 stripe > prior to it locking up ? I didn't check this - sorry. I'll make sure that 3dmd is running the next time this happens... //Raymond. -- Raymond Wiker Raymond.Wiker@fast.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 5:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F3C37B636 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 05:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sa264@cam.ac.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost ident=root) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154MVS-0005LF-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:22 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 From: AMAKAWA Shuhei To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: hangs with sysctl -a MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, which could possibly be the culprit. OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it works on your machine or not? It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. Thanks. -- Shuhei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 6:13:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saboche.muine.org (cr891907-a.slnt1.on.wave.home.com [24.156.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D6837B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 06:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoang@muine.org) Received: from avocado.muine.org (avocado.muine.org [192.168.1.12]) by saboche.muine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F8799224 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avocado.muine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB58A18F3C2 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:13:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hoang Q. Tran" To: Subject: re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010528091117.H602-100000@avocado.muine.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm seeing this too. CVSUP from kernel yesterday May 27, 2001. -Hoang Shuhei writes: Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, which could possibly be the culprit. OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it works on your machine or not? It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. Thanks. -- Shuhei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 7: 6:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gravy.kishka.net (adsl-151-197-8-33.phila.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.197.8.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E4437B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:06:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Received: from gravy (ahxxrm@gravy [192.168.1.1]) by gravy.kishka.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SE6HK00242; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bleez@bellatlantic.net) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-X-Sender: To: AMAKAWA Shuhei Cc: Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010528100016.B221-100000@gravy.kishka.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: >Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? >My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. >Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, >which could possibly be the culprit. Reproduced it here also, it hung right after displaying kern.devstat.version: 4 I couldn't telnet into the box to restart it, I had to hit the reset switch. cvsupped and sources up to date as of: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Sun May 27 14:23:06 EDT 2001 ========================================================== = Bryan D. Liesner LeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = bleez@bellatlantic.net Home of the Gipper = ========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 7:17: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE03A37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f4SEGAF23955; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 07:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200105281416.f4SEGAF23955@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 >From: AMAKAWA Shuhei >Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? I hadn't until your report.... >My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. >Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, >which could possibly be the culprit. >OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted >to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it >works on your machine or not? >It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. >Thanks. OK; I tested it, and got the reported hang. I then re-booted & tried again -- this time, outside of the X environment. Big difference I noticed was that the command (the second time around) did output a lot of variables & values; here are the last several reported: kerm.fscale: 2048 kern.devstat.numdevs: 4 kern.devstat.generation: 4 kern.devstat.version: 4 ...and that's where it hung. This is on a -STABLE as of this morning: FreeBSD dhcp-133.catwhisker.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #30: Mon May 28 06:33:53 PDT 2001 root@dhcp-133.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 built from sources updated from a local CVS repository that was updated: CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:52:48 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:53:36 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:53:51 PDT 2001 The machine is my laptop, where I've been tracking -STABLE daily since early March. There's some information about it at http://www.catwhisker.rog/~david/FreeBSd/laptop.html. I have not tried booting in single-user mode to try it yet; I'm willing, if there's reason to believe it might make a difference. I should be able to perform reasonable experiments upon request. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 8:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86CC37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p47.lafn.org [192.168.16.47] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4SFqGD59137; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010528034849.A4863@vellocet.insync.net> References: <20010528034849.A4863@vellocet.insync.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 08:50:49 -0700 To: Matt Bedynek From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: updating with cvsup, buildworld, etc. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:48 -0500 5/28/01, Matt Bedynek wrote: >Hello. > >I was wondering what is the best method for updating boxes based on >a sync'ed source? > >I run 8 freebsd boxes and I'm thinking of syncing the src's on one >and mount via NFS to share that to the others. I would like to hear >what others here have done to simlify a task such as this. > >Thanks for your time! I have one system that I use for source and testing. It has the full sources. I do the buildworld on it and also build kernels for each of my production servers. Then I use NFS to mount /usr/src, /usr/obj, and /usr/ports and do an installworld, installkernel, and install the various ports. This minimizes the downtime for an upgrade on my production servers. All of the servers are very close to identical. I could get by with the same kernel on all of them except for some very old NIC ISA cards that require special configuration. Note,with this approach, runing mergemaster takes the most time during the upgrade process. I could probably short circuit much of that by copying from my source machine but have never bothered to check that out. I suspect there are only a couple of those files that differ between machines. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:20:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3BC37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SGKRO30812; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: sa264@cam.ac.uk Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:27 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 13 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: AMAKAWA Shuhei Subject: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > which could possibly be the culprit. Hmmm. Well, as the committer of that particular delta, I have to say that I haven't seen any hangs. Has anyone else? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:23:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EDB37B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SGN6O30827; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: hoang@muine.org Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010528091117.H602-100000@avocado.muine.org> References: <20010528091117.H602-100000@avocado.muine.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010528092306D.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:23:06 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 39 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Urk. How strange that I don't see it on any of my test boxes. Perhaps there's a corner case for certain types of disk? I must confess that I don't have any IDE drives around here. Then again, if it were broken one would think it would also be manifesting itself in -current, where that same code has been active for awhile. Unfortunately, I'm jumping on a plane to europe in about 3 hours here so if it does turn out to be this commit breaking things, anyone in -committers is free to back out the change in my absence. We can always study bringing it in at a later time. - Jordan From: "Hoang Q. Tran" Subject: re: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:13:45 -0400 (EDT) > I'm seeing this too. CVSUP from kernel yesterday May 27, 2001. > > -Hoang > > Shuhei writes: > > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > which could possibly be the culprit. > OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted > to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it > works on your machine or not? > It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. > Thanks. > > -- > Shuhei > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:26:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wallnet.com (server1.wallnet.com [208.225.162.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B33B37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from timothyk@server1.wallnet.com) Received: from localhost (timothyk@localhost) by server1.wallnet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA19457; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Kellers To: Lawrence Farr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TI Gigabit driver and netatalk. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In atalkd.conf, I assume you have a line such as: fxp -phase 2 -net 0-65334 -addr 65280.54 Do you have a second entry for the 3com card will different values? Tim On Thu, 24 May 2001, Lawrence Farr wrote: > I have a test machine with an Intel EEPro and a 3com 3c985 adapter in, > running -stable > from a few days ago. Running netatalk over the fxp gives no problems, but > switching to > the 3c985 gives: > > May 24 10:11:57 spare atalkd[257]: zip_getnetinfo sendto: Network is down > May 24 10:11:57 spare atalkd[257]: bootaddr (zip_getnetinfo): Network is > down > May 24 10:11:57 spare atalkd: difaddr(0.0): Can't assign requested address > May 24 10:11:57 spare atalkd: difaddr(0.0): Can't assign requested address > May 24 10:11:57 spare afpd[261]: main: atp_open: Can't assign requested > address > May 24 10:12:28 spare /kernel: ti0: gigabit link up > > And atalkd does not run. I can also reproduce this on 4.1-S and 4.2-S > machines. > Anyone got any ideas/pointers? > > Lawrence Farr > EPC Direct Limited mailto:lawrence@epcdirect.co.uk > T:01179666123 F:01179666111 M:07970780901 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B79B37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:26:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drkangel@drkangel.org) Received: from workstation01.internal.drkangel.org ([64.229.66.81]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010528162649.QVXA27183.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@workstation01.internal.drkangel.org>; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:26:49 -0400 Received: by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 18167F42B; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B06B721; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:27:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Marco P Rodrigues X-X-Sender: To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: , Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just CVSUP stable REL 4.3 on May 28 2001 at 12:15, and I reproduced the problem. -- "Sanity is calming, but madness is far more interesting." On Mon, 28 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: AMAKAWA Shuhei > Subject: hangs with sysctl -a > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 > > > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > > which could possibly be the culprit. > > Hmmm. Well, as the committer of that particular delta, I have to say > that I haven't seen any hangs. Has anyone else? > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:28:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB3437B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:28:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2initt3.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.119.163]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28041; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 75A00114029; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com Cc: sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> (message from Jordan Hubbard on Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:27 -0700) Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-Id: <20010528162830.75A00114029@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Locked my box up hard, required a reset... Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:20:27 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk From: AMAKAWA Shuhei Subject: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > which could possibly be the culprit. Hmmm. Well, as the committer of that particular delta, I have to say that I haven't seen any hangs. Has anyone else? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 9:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096EB37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:33:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SGXUO34809; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:33:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: drkangel@drkangel.org Cc: sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:33:30 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, that's enough failure reports for me - I'm backing the change out now until I get back from vacation. Sorry folks - this *should* have worked! - Jordan From: Marco P Rodrigues Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:27:01 -0400 (EDT) > > I just CVSUP stable REL 4.3 on May 28 2001 at 12:15, and I reproduced the > problem. > > -- > "Sanity is calming, but madness is far more interesting." > > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > From: AMAKAWA Shuhei > > Subject: hangs with sysctl -a > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 > > > > > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > > > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > > > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 10:42:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orange.csi.cam.ac.uk (orange.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EB237B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sa264@cam.ac.uk) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost ident=root) by orange.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154R2K-0005m8-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:42:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:42:10 +0100 From: AMAKAWA Shuhei To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: drkangel@drkangel.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for addressing the problem promptly. Have fun. -- Shuhei At Mon, 28 May 2001 09:33:30 -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > OK, that's enough failure reports for me - I'm backing the change out > now until I get back from vacation. Sorry folks - this *should* have > worked! > > - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11: 3:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E0537B446 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SI36088501; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4SI30f20557; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105281803.f4SI30f20557@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem In-Reply-To: <3B11EA9D.94FB6BC0@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> <3B11EA9D.94FB6BC0@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3B11EA9D.94FB6BC0@svzserv.kemerovo.su>, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > Updating collection ports-www/cvs > > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-aa > > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-ab > > > Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/tomcat.sh > > > Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files > > > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory > > > not empty > > > > See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 > > I run a local mirror of FreeBSD CVS Repository. > Now when a client uses my mirror, it obtains > > Server warning: Cannot open > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files,v": > No such file or directory > > How can I resolve this? I don't understand why you'd get this on a mirror. Nobody else has reported it on mirrors of the repository. I recommend that you apply the work-around described in the PR on your mirror site, and make sure you run a cvsup update _without_ the "-s" option afterwards. When you edit the checkouts file, make sure you're editing the one corresponding to the collection that your mirror fetches from its master site. For example, if your mirror updates itself with cvs-all, it won't do you any good to edit the ports-www checkouts file. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:21:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.sector14.net (24-168-222-195.mf.cox.rr.com [24.168.222.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D2D37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.sector14.net) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.sector14.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SIL0r11386; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:21:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:20:59 -0400 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: smbfs: kernel/library version mismatch after make world Message-ID: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Bartimaeus Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsuped to 4.3-STABLE (from 4.2-STABLE) and did make buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, and make installworld. During the buildkernel, I realized I wanted to make some changes to my kernel config file; so I did, then aborted and started over the buildkernel. No errors. The biggest change was the addition of these lines for SMBFS: # SMB/CIFS requester options NETSMB #SMB/CIFS requester options NETSMBCRYPTO #encrypted password support for SMB options LIBMCHAIN #mbuf management library options LIBICONV # Kernel side iconv library options SMBFS #SMB/CIFS filesystem After a mergemaster and a final reboot, I tried as root: mount -t smbfs //winserver/c /mnt I got this in response (originally one line): smbfs: smb_lib_init: kernel module version(103006) don't match library(102001). I then tried manually kldloading smbfs.ko, but things went down hill from there; details if they'll help, but I doubt it or I'd have put them here. :-) I believe I had tried using smbfs once on this machine in its pre-MFC days; but that's been months now. I don't even remember if it was a port then or a direct attempt at installing from the source. Suggestions? Please CC me so I don't lose the reply in the list mailbox. :) -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C56F37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4SIMVs50192; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:22:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:22:31 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jordan Hubbard , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:33:30AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > OK, that's enough failure reports for me - I'm backing the change out > now until I get back from vacation. Sorry folks - this *should* have > worked! > See the follow up to PR misc/27760 for an explanation and a fix. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:29: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0785737B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.122]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SISsa28128; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:28:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SISrL15585; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:28:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f4SISqG06320; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:28:51 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id LZXX30ZS; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:28:48 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Jordan Hubbard , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:28:43 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is misc/27706, actually. A. Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > OK, that's enough failure reports for me - I'm backing the change out > > now until I get back from vacation. Sorry folks - this *should* have > > worked! > > > See the follow up to PR misc/27760 for an explanation and a fix. > > Cheers, > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:36: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C900B37B449 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4SIZOG56876; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:35:24 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:35:24 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Jordan Hubbard , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , Jordan Hubbard , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528093330Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:28:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yup, I made a typo. The PR in question is misc/27706. And for the benefit of the other interested readers, I will copy my followup here (attached). On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:28:43PM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > This is misc/27706, actually. > > A. > > Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:33:30AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > OK, that's enough failure reports for me - I'm backing the change out > > > now until I get back from vacation. Sorry folks - this *should* have > > > worked! > > > > > See the follow up to PR misc/27760 for an explanation and a fix. -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:21:13 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: =?koi8-r?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: misc/27706: sysctl -a freezes my server Message-ID: <20010528212113.A47635@sunbay.com> References: <200105281330.f4SDU3E79802@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105281330.f4SDU3E79802@freefall.freebsd.org>; from sos@freebsd.dk on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 06:30:03AM -0700 On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 06:30:03AM -0700, Søren Schmidt wrote: > The following reply was made to PR misc/27706; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Søren Schmidt > To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: misc/27706: sysctl -a freezes my server > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:22:41 +0200 (CEST) > > It seems kar_alerts@mglorysb.com wrote: > > >Environment: > > FreeBSD svr.mgsb.domain 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 28 13:26:03 GMT 2001 root@svr.mgsb.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/SVRFW i386 > > >Description: > > command "sysctl -a" freezes my server. > > >How-To-Repeat: > > type "sysctl -a" > > Yeps I see this too, 4.3-stable is broken here.... > This is caused by ata-disk.c calling disk_create() twice with the same "struct disk" pointer, once as "ad" and second time as "wd". This creates the forever loop in sysctl_disks(). -CURRENT is not vulnerable. The following patch is enough to fix this: Index: ata-disk.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/ata/ata-disk.c,v retrieving revision 1.60.2.12 diff -u -p -r1.60.2.12 ata-disk.c --- ata-disk.c 2001/04/05 17:21:54 1.60.2.12 +++ ata-disk.c 2001/05/28 18:17:27 @@ -208,8 +208,10 @@ ad_attach(struct ata_softc *scp, int dev dev->si_iosize_max = 256 * DEV_BSIZE; adp->dev1 = dev; +#if 0 dev = disk_create(adp->lun, &adp->disk, 0, &fakewd_cdevsw, &fakewddisk_cdevsw); +#endif dev->si_drv1 = adp; dev->si_iosize_max = 256 * DEV_BSIZE; adp->dev2 = dev; -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:40:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAE337B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:40:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SIeAO38573; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: ru@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca, drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> References: <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010528114010O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:40:10 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, if you manage to fix it, I'd be happy if you could reinstate the original fix. It will help the libh project since kern.disks is necessary for the new installer/disk labeler to work. Not that libh will be _deployed_ under 4.x, but it would be nice if one could at least _develop_ it under that branch. I think that would only help more people hack on libh. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:47: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3534837B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f4SIktY61745; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:46:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:46:55 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Soren Schmidt , stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010528214655.D47635@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Jordan Hubbard , Soren Schmidt , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> <20010528114010O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528114010O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:40:10AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:40:10AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Well, if you manage to fix it, I'd be happy if you could reinstate the > original fix. It will help the libh project since kern.disks is > necessary for the new installer/disk labeler to work. Not that libh > will be _deployed_ under 4.x, but it would be nice if one could at > least _develop_ it under that branch. I think that would only help > more people hack on libh. > It's more the question to Soren then. I have provided all the necessary bits. :-) Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:50:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [208.237.135.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE2137B422; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr5.exu.ericsson.se (mr5u3.ericy.com [208.237.135.124]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SIoIa16693; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:50:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr5.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SIoHP29369; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f4SIoGG07863; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:15 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id LZXXPAF4; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:11 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: ru@FreeBSD.ORG, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B129DDE.366D28C2@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:06 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: libh deployement? (Re: hangs with sysctl -a) References: <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> <20010528114010O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow. Do I really hear that libh will be deployed in the main tree? That would be very merry indeed. A. Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Well, if you manage to fix it, I'd be happy if you could reinstate the > original fix. It will help the libh project since kern.disks is > necessary for the new installer/disk labeler to work. Not that libh > will be _deployed_ under 4.x, but it would be nice if one could at > least _develop_ it under that branch. I think that would only help > more people hack on libh. > > - Jordan -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 11:50:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D0937B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:50:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4SIoeu31468; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae To: AMAKAWA Shuhei Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > which could possibly be the culprit. > OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted > to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it > works on your machine or not? > It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. Hey, something I can answer! Works fine for me. (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies telling you the same thing... -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12: 0:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3111F37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4SJ0QU31503; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae To: AMAKAWA Shuhei Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, Tenebrae wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2001, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: > > > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > > Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > > which could possibly be the culprit. > > OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted > > to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it > > works on your machine or not? > > It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. > > Hey, something I can answer! > Works fine for me. > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies telling you the > same thing... *reads other messages* ...or not! Wow. I guess I cvsupped at just exactly the right time, eh? FreeBSD steeltoe.niceboots.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Thu May 17 22:58:45 PDT 2001 root@steeltoe.niceboots.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC i386 -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12: 1:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B0937B43C; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:01:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SJ1S400665; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:01:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200105281901.f4SJ1S400665@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010528214655.D47635@sunbay.com> "from Ruslan Ermilov at May 28, 2001 09:46:55 pm" To: Ruslan Ermilov Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:01:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Soren Schmidt , stable@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:40:10AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Well, if you manage to fix it, I'd be happy if you could reinstate the > > original fix. It will help the libh project since kern.disks is > > necessary for the new installer/disk labeler to work. Not that libh > > will be _deployed_ under 4.x, but it would be nice if one could at > > least _develop_ it under that branch. I think that would only help > > more people hack on libh. > > > It's more the question to Soren then. I have provided all the necessary > bits. :-) I'll more than happily rip out the old wd compat shit^H^H^Htuff, that should fix the problem of double calls... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D26137B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01587; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:15:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200105281915.MAA01587@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: from Marco P Rodrigues at "May 28, 1 12:27:01 pm" To: drkangel@drkangel.org (Marco P Rodrigues) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:15:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: jkh@osd.bsdi.com, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Marco P Rodrigues wrote: > I just CVSUP stable REL 4.3 on May 28 2001 at 12:15, and I reproduced > the problem. RELENG_4_3 does not show the problem. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.sector14.net (24-168-222-195.mf.cox.rr.com [24.168.222.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C17737B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.sector14.net) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.sector14.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SJkUg12355; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:46:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:46:30 -0400 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Mike Squires Subject: Re: smbfs: kernel/library version mismatch after make world Message-ID: <20010528154630.F477@kirk.sector14.net> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Mike Squires References: <20010528152707.E477@kirk.sector14.net> <200105281929.f4SJToP16331@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105281929.f4SJToP16331@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com>; from mikes@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:29:50PM -0500 Organization: Bartimaeus Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Case closed. I didn't realize I still needed the /usr/ports/net/smbfs port after the MFC of the kernel code for smbfs--I was actually afraid using the port would clobber smbfs.ko from the base system. Not so, and the errors are gone after installation of the port. Thanks Mike. Now all I have to do is figure out why I keep getting smbfs: can't get server address: syserr = Operation timed out messages when trying things like "mount -t smbfs //winserver/c." -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com It is difficult to produce a television documentary that is both incisive and probing when every twelve minutes one is interrupted by dancing rabbits singing about toilet paper. --Rod Serling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12:54:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E6137B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.2.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B4C2F6AB; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:54:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SJrYB00276; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:53:34 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from fm) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:53:33 +0300 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: Doug Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smbfs: kernel/library version mismatch after make world Message-ID: <20010528225333.C98994@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> References: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net>; from dgl@visi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:20:59PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Doug Lee wrote: ... > options SMBFS #SMB/CIFS filesystem > > mount -t smbfs //winserver/c /mnt > > I got this in response (originally one line): > > smbfs: smb_lib_init: kernel module version(103006) don't match > library(102001). mount_smbfs is not implemented yet in stable :)) There is just kernel changes and kernel module. But there is no way to use whithout ports/net/smbfs. But you must recompile port/net/smbfs before use it. -- #include , fm. GnuPG fpr = 6101 9519 9A45 3D44 3BCB 0974 C774 5143 8F26 95B5 Mail message with GPG-KEY in subject to get my public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 12:55: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rembrandt.esys.ca (rembrandt.esys.ca [198.161.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DB337B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cory.vokey@messagingdirect.com) Received: from elbrus (elbrus.esys.ca [198.161.92.83]) by rembrandt.esys.ca (8.11.0.Beta0/8.11.0.Beta0) with SMTP id f4SJsvS01768; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:54:58 -0600 Message-ID: <059e01c0e7b0$3a8ca4d0$535ca1c6@elbrus> From: "Cory Vokey" To: Cc: "Doug Lee" References: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net> Subject: Re: smbfs: kernel/library version mismatch after make world Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:56:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Doug, I ran into a similar problem last week and had to add "options SYSVSEM" to get smbd to run correctly. The kernel config. for the 4.2 release did not have this option and everything worked fine, but for some reason 4.3 requires it. Cory Vokey. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: smbfs: kernel/library version mismatch after make world > I just cvsuped to 4.3-STABLE (from 4.2-STABLE) and did make > buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, and make > installworld. During the buildkernel, I realized I wanted to make > some changes to my kernel config file; so I did, then aborted and > started over the buildkernel. No errors. > > The biggest change was the addition of these lines for SMBFS: > > # SMB/CIFS requester > options NETSMB #SMB/CIFS requester > options NETSMBCRYPTO #encrypted password support for SMB > options LIBMCHAIN #mbuf management library > options LIBICONV # Kernel side iconv library > options SMBFS #SMB/CIFS filesystem > > After a mergemaster and a final reboot, I tried as root: > > mount -t smbfs file://winserver/c /mnt > > I got this in response (originally one line): > > smbfs: smb_lib_init: kernel module version(103006) don't match > library(102001). > > I then tried manually kldloading smbfs.ko, but things went down hill > from there; details if they'll help, but I doubt it or I'd have put > them here. :-) > > I believe I had tried using smbfs once on this machine in its pre-MFC > days; but that's been months now. I don't even remember if it was a > port then or a direct attempt at installing from the source. > > Suggestions? > > Please CC me so I don't lose the reply in the list mailbox. :) > > -- > Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl > Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com > "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's > character, give him power." -Abraham Lincoln > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 14:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCF537B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:40:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154UkO-0003k7-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:40:20 +0200 Received: from a05ef.pppool.de ([213.6.5.239] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx3.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154UkO-0002QG-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:40:20 +0200 Received: (qmail 4371 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2001 21:40:40 -0000 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:40:40 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 09:02:49PM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kris Kennaway: > This sounds a lot like corruption of your local sources or a failure > in the way you're trying to build them; there isn't a problem with the > RELENG_4 branch, except for isolated points when someone breaks > something (and then fixes it). you are the forth to tell me this, so it might be true. to do a "make buildworld", is it enough to download the 67 MB worth of sources of the /usr/src tree? this is what i did, four times up to yesterday. if this is not so, because the building depends on, say, header files outside of /usr/src, how do i get my infrastructure into shape? clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 14:41: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7E537B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3B60666D48; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:41:01 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" Cc: Jordan Hubbard , ru@FreeBSD.ORG, "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" , drkangel@drkangel.org, sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: libh deployement? (Re: hangs with sysctl -a) Message-ID: <20010528144100.B58165@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010528212231.B47635@sunbay.com> <3B1298DB.F8E11E29@lmc.ericsson.se> <20010528213524.C47635@sunbay.com> <20010528114010O.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B129DDE.366D28C2@lmc.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B129DDE.366D28C2@lmc.ericsson.se>; from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:50:06PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:50:06PM -0400, Antoine Beaupre (LMC) wrote: > Wow.=20 >=20 > Do I really hear that libh will be deployed in the main tree? No; let me quote back what Jordan actually said: > > necessary for the new installer/disk labeler to work. Not that libh > > will be _deployed_ under 4.x, but it would be nice if one could at > > least _develop_ it under that branch. I think that would only help > > more people hack on libh. Kris --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EsXrWry0BWjoQKURApEzAJ4iNDZQ2kNc0D/T1rgFel7kdJSKHQCg8T6c n4ZPX6YArycIEWjO+SqOPto= =mkP3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 14:42: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C654E37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DE0866D48; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:42:02 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wxDdMuZNg1r63Hyj" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:40:40PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --wxDdMuZNg1r63Hyj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:40:40PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > Kris Kennaway: >=20 > > This sounds a lot like corruption of your local sources or a failure > > in the way you're trying to build them; there isn't a problem with the > > RELENG_4 branch, except for isolated points when someone breaks > > something (and then fixes it). >=20 > you are the forth to tell me this, so it might be true. to do a "make > buildworld", is it enough to download the 67 MB worth of sources of the > /usr/src tree? this is what i did, four times up to yesterday. if this = is > not so, because the building depends on, say, header files outside of > /usr/src, how do i get my infrastructure into shape? Please read the handbook for the relevant information on how to download, compile and upgrade FreeBSD. Kris --wxDdMuZNg1r63Hyj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EsYpWry0BWjoQKURAo26AKDweP/2W8uFANjKPqYHtSUEblQ0SQCgoFsC r0vNXibyAEwzQlio5HGZFo8= =Qkew -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wxDdMuZNg1r63Hyj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:10: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kirk.sector14.net (24-168-222-195.mf.cox.rr.com [24.168.222.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AD37B422; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgl@kirk.sector14.net) Received: (from dgl@localhost) by kirk.sector14.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SM9lv13086; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:09:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgl) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:09:43 -0400 From: Doug Lee To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Commands doing nothing just one time, then behaving Message-ID: <20010528180943.L477@kirk.sector14.net> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Bartimaeus Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've occasionally seen various commands return immediately and do nothing, as if never run. Every time I see this, a second run (even by arrowing up to retrieve the line from the tcsh buffer) works normally. I can't remember when this started happening. It's not frequent and, sadly, not predictable. If I think about it next time it happens, I'll do an `ls -ul' on the command to see if it even got accessed. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this. I know this is vague (which is why I didn't report it sooner); my apologies for this. -- Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "This page is best viewed with your monitor switched on." --from Antiword web site (http://www.winfield.demon.nl/index.html) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:11: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B392037B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SMAtn08510 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:10:55 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:10:55 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Subject: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of virtual memory? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:14:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8C7737B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alson@mediadesign.nl) Received: (qmail 9854 invoked by uid 1002); 28 May 2001 22:14:05 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:14:05 +0200 From: Alson van der Meulen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... Message-ID: <20010529001404.C4934@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 07:10:55PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 07:10:55PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of > virtual memory? Linux kills random processes, usually some vital ones like init. You might like that better ;) -- ,-------------------------------------------. > Name: Alson van der Meulen < > Personal: alson@linuxfreak.nl < > School: alson@gymnasiumleiden.nl < `-------------------------------------------' NO! Not that button! --------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:23:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D555237B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 154VPn-000Cc5-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:23:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:23:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of > virtual memory? It has always been my experience that it does. Basically the process that requests memory that doesn't exist, is killed. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:43:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.hub.org (SHW39-29.accesscable.net [24.138.39.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A82537B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by mobile.hub.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SMgp208810; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:43:12 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:42:51 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Tom Cc: Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, Tom wrote: > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? > > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of > > virtual memory? > > It has always been my experience that it does. Basically the process > that requests memory that doesn't exist, is killed. Any way of turning this feature on? :) I have a hung, remote machine right now that is out of memory ... we caught it "just about to do it" earlier today, and it actually did it this evening :( This aft, it was two 400Meg httpsd processes that brought her close, so I'm guessing similar this evening did her in ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:48:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B29F37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154Vof-0002K4-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:48:49 +0200 Received: from a05ef.pppool.de ([213.6.5.239] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx0.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154Voe-0004No-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:48:49 +0200 Received: (qmail 5554 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2001 22:49:08 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:49:08 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:42:02PM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kris Kennaway: > Please read the handbook for the relevant information on how to > download, compile and upgrade FreeBSD. i did. it does not answer the question. clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 15:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D891837B43C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA35301; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:49:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:49:56 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 28 May 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of > virtual memory? Won't some sane values for some class in /etc/login.conf limit the amount memory available to users in the chosen class? The default class is ok to use for most users, but use the daemon class for processes started during boot. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestøl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.31 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 16: 7: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1064B37B43F for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4SN6xG13452; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105282306.f4SN6xG13452@earth.backplane.com> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Tom , Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Mon, 28 May 2001, Tom wrote: :> :> On Mon, 28 May 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: :> :> > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? :> > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of :> > virtual memory? :> :> It has always been my experience that it does. Basically the process :> that requests memory that doesn't exist, is killed. : :Any way of turning this feature on? :) I have a hung, remote machine :right now that is out of memory ... we caught it "just about to do it" :earlier today, and it actually did it this evening :( : :This aft, it was two 400Meg httpsd processes that brought her close, so :I'm guessing similar this evening did her in ... This is a known bug in -stable and -current. The kernel is supposed to kill the bigger processes but locks up before it gets the chance. It's probably fairly easy to fix, but I haven't had time to delve into it. In regards to runaway processes... that's why you set reasonable resource limits. So a runaway process dies without taking the system down with it. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 16:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B98137B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SNHn090647 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4SNHmh21201; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105282317.f4SNHmh21201@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Re: CVSup through ssh tunnel In-Reply-To: <20010526150646.A12866@vobiscum.styx.org> References: <20010526150646.A12866@vobiscum.styx.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ok the doc is updated, i do the same with the ports and it succeeded. > But when i cvsup the source tree, it gives me: > > laptop:/home/marc# cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile > Parsing supfile "stable-supfile" > Connecting to localhost > Connected to localhost > Server software version: REL_16_1 > Negotiating file attribute support > Exchanging collection information > Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection > Running > Updating collection src-all/cvs > Shutting down connection to server > Finished successfully > > without any changes in /usr/src (the sources are old 4.3-BETA). Following up for the archives ... It turned out that this user had a refuse file with what looked like a comment. The comment-like line contained the word "src". But comments aren't supported in refuse files, so this line suppressed the updating of the src tree. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 16:45:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bluenugget.net (babyviolence.com [64.3.150.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD06637B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geniusj@bsd.st) Received: from bsd.st (windows.box [64.3.150.191]) by bluenugget.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2051360B; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12DCF1.2050701@bsd.st> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:19:13 -0700 From: Jason DiCioccio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9) Gecko/20010505 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The Hermit Hacker wrote: >On Mon, 28 May 2001, Tom wrote: > >>On Mon, 28 May 2001, The Hermit Hacker wrote: >> >>>stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? >>>something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of >>>virtual memory? >>> >> It has always been my experience that it does. Basically the process >>that requests memory that doesn't exist, is killed. >> > >Any way of turning this feature on? :) I have a hung, remote machine >right now that is out of memory ... we caught it "just about to do it" >earlier today, and it actually did it this evening :( > >This aft, it was two 400Meg httpsd processes that brought her close, so >I'm guessing similar this evening did her in ... > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > add more memory or add more swap and setup login.conf limits... vn should help you with this Cheers, -JD- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:26:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8296B37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EABB86ACBC; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:56:11 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:56:11 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: sa264@cam.ac.uk, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010529095611.D54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528092027S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:20:27AM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 28 May 2001 at 9:20:27 -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: AMAKAWA Shuhei > Subject: hangs with sysctl -a > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:52:11 +0100 > >> Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? >> My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. >> Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, >> which could possibly be the culprit. > > Hmmm. Well, as the committer of that particular delta, I have to say > that I haven't seen any hangs. Has anyone else? I've seen it too. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:28: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E70337B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18CD26ACBC; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:57:56 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:57:56 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Tenebrae Cc: AMAKAWA Shuhei , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010529095756.E54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tenebrae@niceboots.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:50:40AM -0700 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 28 May 2001 at 11:50:40 -0700, Tenebrae wrote: > On Mon, 28 May 2001, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: > >> Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? >> My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. >> Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, >> which could possibly be the culprit. >> OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted >> to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it >> works on your machine or not? >> It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. > > Hey, something I can answer! > Works fine for me. > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies telling you the > same thing... JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:36:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF42637B43C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 154XUd-0004Ue-00; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:36:15 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Greg Lehey'" , "'Tenebrae'" Cc: "'AMAKAWA Shuhei'" , Subject: RE: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:35:47 +1200 Message-ID: <017701c0e7d7$4dbc12d0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010529095756.E54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: > Hey, something I can answer! :: > Works fine for me. :: > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) :: > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies :: telling you the :: > same thing... :: :: JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? Doesn't hang on a SCSI disks only system here. # uname -a FreeBSD www.searchnow.co.nz 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Dec 4 15:18:45 NZDT 2000 root@www.searchnow.co.nz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SEARCHNOW i386 Hmmm.... should upgrade ;-) -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:41:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from steeltoe.niceboots.com (steeltoe.niceboots.com [208.25.85.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3581137B43E for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tenebrae@niceboots.com) Received: from localhost (tenebrae@localhost) by steeltoe.niceboots.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4T0fO232004 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tenebrae Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <20010529095756.E54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 May 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Monday, 28 May 2001 at 11:50:40 -0700, Tenebrae wrote: > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: > > > >> Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > >> My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. > >> Built sometime after src/sys/kern/subr_disk.c rev 1.20.2.2, > >> which could possibly be the culprit. > >> OK, I haven't provided sufficient information nor have I attempted > >> to narrow down the problem, but could anybody just let me know if it > >> works on your machine or not? > >> It's easy to test, ..well if you don't mind hanging it. > > > > Hey, something I can answer! > > Works fine for me. > > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) > > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies telling you the > > same thing... > > JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? All IDE, actually. IBM Deskstar 27GB HDD and a random 8x CD-ROM drive. I think it might have been an Asus (didn't know they made CD-ROM drives, too). -Tenebrae. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:43:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts6.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38FE37B43F for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drkangel@drkangel.org) Received: from workstation01.internal.drkangel.org ([64.229.66.81]) by tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010529004307.VHHK7009.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@workstation01.internal.drkangel.org>; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:07 -0400 Received: by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E1E43F42B; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C1CB721; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Marco P Rodrigues X-X-Sender: To: Juha Saarinen Cc: Subject: RE: hangs with sysctl -a In-Reply-To: <017701c0e7d7$4dbc12d0$0a01a8c0@den2> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well mines wasn't hanging until I cvsuped the stable branch this morning after people started reporting the problems. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 28 11:47:38 EDT 2001 drkangel@workstation01.internal.drkangel.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/WORKSTATION01 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1000.04-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) avail memory = 517242880 (505120K bytes) ahc0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xd8001000-0xd8001fff irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 aic7860: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xccff,0xc800-0xc803,0xc400-0xc407,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07 irq 1 ad4: 19574MB [39770/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66 ad5: 32253MB [65531/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4345MB (8899737 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) -- "Sanity is calming, but madness is far more interesting." On Tue, 29 May 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: > Hey, something I can answer! > :: > Works fine for me. > :: > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) > :: > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies > :: telling you the > :: > same thing... > :: > :: JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? > > Doesn't hang on a SCSI disks only system here. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD www.searchnow.co.nz 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Dec 4 > 15:18:45 NZDT 2000 > root@www.searchnow.co.nz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SEARCHNOW i386 > > Hmmm.... should upgrade ;-) > > -- Juha > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:43:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34AD37B443 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drkangel@drkangel.org) Received: from workstation01.internal.drkangel.org ([64.229.66.81]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010529004338.NJHK15234.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@workstation01.internal.drkangel.org>; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:38 -0400 Received: by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C7AAF42B; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by workstation01.internal.drkangel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0937DB721; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Marco P Rodrigues X-X-Sender: To: Juha Saarinen Cc: Subject: RE: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well mines wasn't hanging until I cvsuped the stable branch this morning after people started reporting the problems. Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Mon May 28 11:47:38 EDT 2001 drkangel@workstation01.internal.drkangel.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/WORKSTATION01 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (1000.04-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) avail memory = 517242880 (505120K bytes) ahc0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xd8001000-0xd8001fff irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0 aic7860: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/255 SCBs atapci1: port 0xcc00-0xccff,0xc800-0xc803,0xc400-0xc407,0xc000-0xc003,0xbc00-0xbc07 irq 1 ad4: 19574MB [39770/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66 ad5: 32253MB [65531/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4345MB (8899737 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) -- "Sanity is calming, but madness is far more interesting." On Tue, 29 May 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: > Hey, something I can answer! > :: > Works fine for me. > :: > (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) > :: > Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies > :: telling you the > :: > same thing... > :: > :: JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? > > Doesn't hang on a SCSI disks only system here. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD www.searchnow.co.nz 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Dec 4 > 15:18:45 NZDT 2000 > root@www.searchnow.co.nz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SEARCHNOW i386 > > Hmmm.... should upgrade ;-) > > -- Juha > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:58: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0DE337B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B0EF6ACBC; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:28:02 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:28:02 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Juha Saarinen Cc: Tenebrae , AMAKAWA Shuhei , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010529102802.F54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010529095756.E54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> <017701c0e7d7$4dbc12d0$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <017701c0e7d7$4dbc12d0$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 12:35:47PM +1200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 29 May 2001 at 12:35:47 +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: >>>> Hey, something I can answer! >>>> Works fine for me. >>>> (FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE, just upgraded from 4.1 about a week ago) >>>> Of course, by now you have about a dozen other replies >>> telling you the >>>> same thing... >>> >>> JOOI, do you have only SCSI disks? > > Doesn't hang on a SCSI disks only system here. > >> uname -a > FreeBSD www.searchnow.co.nz 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Dec 4 15:18:45 NZDT 2000 root@www.searchnow.co.nz:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SEARCHNOW i386 It won't on that version. > Hmmm.... should upgrade ;-) So that you get the hang? :-) Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 17:59:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-122.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AFE37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 967F4678A2; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:59:16 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010528175916.A47257@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 12:49:08AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 12:49:08AM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > Kris Kennaway: >=20 > > Please read the handbook for the relevant information on how to > > download, compile and upgrade FreeBSD. >=20 > i did. it does not answer the question. Perhaps you could make your question more specific, then. Kris --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7EvRjWry0BWjoQKURAj38AKD7qh0FhdArLoq7OZP8USMYVaRUiwCfXJ17 D8ElYrAcHi0eKvhuwNSiHYY= =u+zo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 18: 0:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536F837B42C; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 154XsC-0004Vo-01; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:00:36 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Greg Lehey'" Cc: "'Tenebrae'" , "'AMAKAWA Shuhei'" , Subject: RE: hangs with sysctl -a Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:00:08 +1200 Message-ID: <017c01c0e7da$b471fd70$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010529102802.F54034@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: It won't on that version. Tried on a 4.3-Stable with SCSI & IDE as well. No hang... $ uname -a FreeBSD lists.idg.co.nz 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Wed May 2 11:45:51 NZST 2001 root@lists.idg.co.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/LISTS i386 :: So that you get the hang? :-) Yeah, I have to get the hang of this. %-} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 21:37: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com (c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com [24.2.168.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788B137B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@powerusersbbs.com) Received: from powerusersbbs.com (localhost.htfds1.ct.home.com [127.0.0.1]) by c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T4eL300816 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:40:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tsikora@powerusersbbs.com) Message-ID: <3B132835.67CDA3D@powerusersbbs.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:40:21 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: stable errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0040 != 0000). May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). Did a new kernel after a cvsup today on stable. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@powerusersbbs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 21:41: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5063037B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 154bJU-0004gu-00; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:41:00 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Ted Sikora'" , Subject: RE: stable errors Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:40:31 +1200 Message-ID: <020201c0e7f9$7e248750$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <3B132835.67CDA3D@powerusersbbs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync :: (0040 != 0000). :: May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync :: (0080 != 0000). :: :: Did a new kernel after a cvsup today on stable. Oddly enough, I saw this mentioned on /. last month. Hang on... here it is: http://www.slashdot.org/bsd/01/04/22/0056207.shtml -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 21:59: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272C837B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f4T4wpi25881; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:58:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200105290458.f4T4wpi25881@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Subject: Re: stable errors In-Reply-To: <3B132835.67CDA3D@powerusersbbs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:40:21 -0400 >From: Ted Sikora >May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0040 != 0000). >May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). >Did a new kernel after a cvsup today on stable. I'm not seeing the symptom. This on a laptop with a touchpad (similar to the Dell Inspiron 5000e): FreeBSD dhcp-133.catwhisker.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #30: Mon May 28 06:33:53 PDT 2001 root@dhcp-133.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 Recent CVSup history: CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:52:48 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:53:36 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:53:51 PDT 2001 In case it's significant, I'm running moused: dhcp-133[3] ps -axwwl|grep moused 0 272 1 0 2 0 892 520 select Ss ?? 0:00.16 moused -3 -p /dev/psm0 -t auto Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 28 22:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB7D37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 22:26:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from svzserv.kemerovo.su (kost [213.184.65.82]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA93980; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:26:02 +0800 (KRAST) (envelope-from eugen@svzserv.kemerovo.su) Message-ID: <3B1332E4.D953B8AD@svzserv.kemerovo.su> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:25:56 +0800 From: Eugene Grosbein Organization: SVZServ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem References: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> <3B10ADD5.D4B28A77@urx.com> <3B11EA9D.94FB6BC0@svzserv.kemerovo.su> <200105281803.f4SI30f20557@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > See the work around in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 > > > > I run a local mirror of FreeBSD CVS Repository. > > Now when a client uses my mirror, it obtains > > > > Server warning: Cannot open > > "/usr/local/etc/cvsup/prefixes/FreeBSD.cvs/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files,v": > > No such file or directory > > > > How can I resolve this? > > I don't understand why you'd get this on a mirror. Nobody else has > reported it on mirrors of the repository. I recommend that you apply > the work-around described in the PR on your mirror site, and make sure > you run a cvsup update _without_ the "-s" option afterwards. Thanks, that worked. Eugene Grosbein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 0:28: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2399437B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id KKQ06792; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:27:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4T66UU01366; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:06:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:06:30 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: machine hangs when no memory/swap left ... Message-ID: <20010529090630.A826@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from scrappy@hub.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 07:10:55PM -0300 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mon, May 28, 2001 at 19:10:55, scrappy (The Hermit Hacker) wrote about "machine hangs when no memory/swap left ...": > stupid question, but shouldn't there be a mechanism to prevent that? > something to crash the process or somethign when the machine runs out of > virtual memory? This mechanism exists - let you grep src/sys/vm/vm_pageout.c for killproc() call. But it does not work always. Also it does not work correct in almost any sense. Let's get workstation without any process running, and run on it: 1) top, 2) systat -vm 1, 3) a process which eats all memory and is not limited. When more and more processes swapped, a memory hog more and more sleeps on "vmwait" channel (see src/sys/vm/vm_page.c). When VM exhausts, vm_pageout_scan() kills first not memory hog (which sleeps on "vmwait" channel), but a most fat _running_ process (i.e. top or vmstat). And when top & vmstat are both killed already, then VM kills memory hog. Effect is repeatable (I tested on 5.0-current-20010512). vm_pageout_scan() code tells that it tests both running and sleeping processes, but such stable preference to small running processes is strange. I saw lockups (when system cannot do anything and is totally dead except interrupt handling) estimately 1 per 10 tests. It does not sit in VM scan in this lockup, and I don't know what does it do. How to test what happens during lockup? Due to extremely bad code writing style (no malloc() result checking, and so on) of most target software, I suppose that the only correct reaction for VM exhausting with current software is to reboot system, or at least kill all processes and tell init to restart current runlevel from scratch. This can be do with external or kernel watchdog, but standard realization may be preferred. And pity fact is that VM implementation does not count VM exhausting situations and killed processes. Patch is rather simple. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 0:28:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC4937B617 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA04392; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:35:58 +0200 Message-ID: <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:30:10 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG clemensF schrieb: > > > Kris Kennaway: > > > Please read the handbook for the relevant information on how to > > download, compile and upgrade FreeBSD. > > i did. it does not answer the question. Well, then read again. Possible causes are - you downloaded the wrong sources (there are lots of kernel versions on FreeBSD) - your kernel sources were not in sync with your system (i.e. it is not possible to build 4.3-Release with a 2.x world) You may glimpse at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html to learn how to get the relevant sources, and at http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig.html to learn how to conifgure and compile a kernel. If this still does not get you up to speed, please include some basic information (output of uname -a, what did you download, which commands did you use, what ws the exact error message). HTH -CHristoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 1:48:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237BC37B422; Tue, 29 May 2001 01:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: by relay.butya.kz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A2AA29061; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:48:40 +0700 (ALMST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.butya.kz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2DF28FE6; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:48:40 +0700 (ALMST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:48:40 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: Brooks Davis Cc: Mikhail Teterin , kris@obsecurity.org, gordont@bluemtn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: Re: mount_mfs (Re: smbfs) In-Reply-To: <20010525092835.C30791@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 25 May 2001, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:04:09PM +0700, Boris Popov wrote: > > There is no any technical problems in doing that. But I'm unsure > > if this should be done (code is not very small). On other hand, people > > expect it in the base system... Probably we should collect more votes on > > this topic. > > I'll definatly vote for inclusion. IMO, it makes no sense to have a > filesystem in the base you can't mount. If it really is so hugh that > people complain, there's always the ugly NO_MOUNT_SMBFS make.conf option > route. Those who really need small systems have to strip all sorts of > things out already anyway, one more won't hurt. Ok, now I've received about fifty votes for inclusion of userland part in the base tree and zero objections. Import process will be done in the -current first and then MFCed to -stable. -- Boris Popov http://www.butya.kz/~bp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 2:42:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C009A37B43C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154g1M-0003Yc-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:42:36 +0200 Received: from b3b43.pppool.de ([213.7.59.67] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx1.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154g1L-0005mL-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:42:35 +0200 Received: (qmail 4023 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2001 09:42:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:42:54 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Commands doing nothing just one time, then behaving Message-ID: <20010529114254.K336@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010528180943.L477@kirk.sector14.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010528180943.L477@kirk.sector14.net>; from dgl@visi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 06:09:43PM -0400 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Doug Lee: > I've occasionally seen various commands return immediately and do > nothing, as if never run. Every time I see this, a second run (even > by arrowing up to retrieve the line from the tcsh buffer) works > normally. I can't remember when this started happening. It's not > frequent and, sadly, not predictable. If I think about it next time > it happens, I'll do an `ls -ul' on the command to see if it even got > accessed. i've got something similiar: "ipfw flush" asks if i really want to flush the firewall rules, then sometime thereafter i do "ipfw -f flush" and it says "illegal flag -- f" and doesn't flush anything. i can do "ipfw flush" and it does nothing. sometimes this does not happen. clemens To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 3:18:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E2837B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbedynek@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from mbedynek@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA24392 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:18:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:18:40 -0500 From: Matt Bedynek To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld failure Message-ID: <20010529051840.A24356@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morning. I just synced up the latest sources (src-all) via cvsup5.freebsd.org. Buildworld now fails at the following- awk -f /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/MKnames.awk /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include/Caps cc -o make_hash -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS -DMAIN_PROGRAM /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/comp_hash.c cat namehdr boolnames boolfnames numnames numfnames strnames strfnames nameftr > names.c In file included from curses.h:77, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/curses.priv.h:234, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/comp_hash.c:41: /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: syntax error before `unctrl' /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class cc -o make_keys -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses -I/usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include -Wall -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DNDEBUG -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DTERMIOS /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/make_keys.c In file included from curses.h:77, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/curses.priv.h:234, from /usr/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/ncurses/tinfo/make_keys.c:38: /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: syntax error before `unctrl' /usr/include/unctrl.h:57: warning: data definition has no type or storage class *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 2 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error -- Matt Bedynek mattb@insync.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 3:22: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9589B37B43C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4907F6726F; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 03:22:04 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Matt Bedynek Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure Message-ID: <20010529032203.A42805@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010529051840.A24356@vellocet.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529051840.A24356@vellocet.insync.net>; from mbedynek@insync.net on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:18:40AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:18:40AM -0500, Matt Bedynek wrote: > I just synced up the latest sources (src-all) via cvsup5.freebsd.org. >=20 > Buildworld now fails at the following- Please post your cvsupfile. Kris --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7E3hLWry0BWjoQKURAqYcAJsHMfg4TfGuKUqbdUE8INttQe/80gCfW699 b+zpmatnLr09y83/RDGUzBY= =Byoy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 3:32:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vellocet.insync.net (vellocet.insync.net [204.253.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D6AC37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 03:32:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mbedynek@vellocet.insync.net) Received: (from mbedynek@localhost) by vellocet.insync.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25118; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:32:40 -0500 From: Matt Bedynek To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure Message-ID: <20010529053240.A25080@vellocet.insync.net> References: <20010529051840.A24356@vellocet.insync.net> <20010529032203.A42805@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529032203.A42805@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:04AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:22:04AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Buildworld now fails at the following- > > Please post your cvsupfile. *default host=cvsup5.FreeBSD.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all -- Matt Bedynek mattb@insync.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:26:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDB937B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:26:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.144] (helo=mx1.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154hdf-0005z8-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:26:15 +0200 Received: from b406d.pppool.de ([213.7.64.109] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx1.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154hda-00014W-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:26:10 +0200 Received: (qmail 4828 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2001 11:26:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:26:30 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:30:10AM +0200 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Christoph Sold: > to learn how to conifgure and compile a kernel. i've done lots of kernels, to play around, get features i wanted and throw out those i didn't need. but i may have patched the sources of the kernel to death by following every security advisory (eg. the tcp-sequence patch, the poll(2) bug...). but i could always build and run kernels, up until i wanted to upgrade from 4.0 release to (finally) 4.3 stable. note that i didn't change anything in /usr/include or /sys/src myself. > If this still does not get you up to speed, please include some basic > information (output of uname -a, what did you download, which commands > did you use, what ws the exact error message). FreeBSD spotteswoode.yi.org 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #11: Tue May 22 19:29:45 CEST 2001 toor@spotteswoode.yi.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/DSLMFS i386 i went to "ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/" and took the snapshot of may 24, 2001 (src/). then i used "install.sh" contained therein to install right on top of the sources in there after i made sure that the "--unlink" flag was given to it's tar() command. the command used was "make buildworld". now to the error messages. hmm... there were so many. this is an excerpt from the protocols i make on a regular bases so i know from where to start: ------------8<------------------ . . . cc -pipe -pipe -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/config -Wall -Wunused -Wmissing-prototypes -Wredundant-decls -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c lang.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:53: `AT' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:53: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:53: (near initialization for `key_words[0].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:54: `BUS' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:54: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:54: (near initialization for `key_words[1].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:55: `CONFLICTS' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:55: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:55: (near initialization for `key_words[2].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:57: `CONTROLLER' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:57: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:57: (near initialization for `key_words[4].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:60: `DISABLE' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:60: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:60: (near initialization for `key_words[7].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:61: `DISK' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:61: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:61: (near initialization for `key_words[8].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:62: `DRIVE' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:62: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:62: (near initialization for `key_words[9].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:63: `DRQ' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:63: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:63: (near initialization for `key_words[10].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:64: `FLAGS' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:64: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:64: (near initialization for `key_words[11].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:66: `IOMEM' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:66: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:66: (near initialization for `key_words[13].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:67: `IOSIZ' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:67: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:67: (near initialization for `key_words[14].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:68: `IRQ' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:68: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:68: (near initialization for `key_words[15].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:72: `NEXUS' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:72: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:72: (near initialization for `key_words[19].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:75: `PORT' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:75: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:75: (near initialization for `key_words[22].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:76: `PSEUDO_DEVICE' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:76: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:76: (near initialization for `key_words[23].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:77: `TAPE' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:77: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:77: (near initialization for `key_words[24].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:78: `TARGET' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:78: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:78: (near initialization for `key_words[25].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:79: `UNIT' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:79: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:79: (near initialization for `key_words[26].kt_val') /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l: In function `yylex': /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:109: `CONTROLLER' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:109: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:109: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:109: `DISK' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:109: `TAPE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:110: `PSEUDO_DEVICE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:110: `AT' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:151: `FPNUMBER' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l: At top level: /usr/src/usr.sbin/config/lang.l:1027: warning: `yy_flex_realloc' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/config. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 ------------8<------------------ i have to admit that i solved the program "manually" by extending the table given to the lexer. this can be done in this case, because these are only missing constant values used only within config(). i wanted to rush on, you see, because from previous attempts i knew that there was more in store. this was the only time i ever changed a source file "out of band". i'll give the rest of the protocols lateron, but first i want to ask my question as precise as i can: given a recent snapshot from -stable in /usr/src and lots of errors after "make buildworld" indicative for a complete hosed make infrastructure, where or how do i get a complete matching set of include files in /usr/include and /usr/share/mk for completing "make world" successfully? ------------8<------------------ === Sat-26.05.01-22:34 buildworld 2 "make buildworld" cc -pipe -pipe -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/pr eproc/refer -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1 -DRET_TYPE_SRAND_IS_VOID=1 -DHAVE_SYS_NERR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_ERRLIST=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE_FMOD=1 -DHAVE_STRTOL=1 -DHAVE_GETCWD=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRNCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRSEP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/in clude -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o refer command.o label.o ref.o refer.o token.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l ibbib/libbib.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l ibgroff/libgroff.a -lm command.o: In function `database_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xbd8): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' command.o: In function `search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xeba): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `no_search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xec5): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xee0): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o(.text+0xeea): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o: In function `no_search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xef9): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `main': refer.o(.text+0x206): undefined reference to `verify_flag' refer.o(.text+0x51b): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' refer.o(.text+0x7d4): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0x8a5): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `possibly_load_default_database(void)': refer.o(.text+0xb12): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o: In function `find_reference(char const *, int)': refer.o(.text+0x2bc9): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::search_list_iterator(search_list *, char const *)' refer.o(.text+0x2bf0): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2c45): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d00): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d62): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2dba): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0': refer.o(.text+0x37c1): undefined reference to `search_list::search_list(void)' refer.o(.text+0x381f): undefined reference to command.o: In function `no_search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xef9): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `main': refer.o(.text+0x206): undefined reference to `verify_flag' refer.o(.text+0x51b): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' refer.o(.text+0x7d4): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0x8a5): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `possibly_load_default_database(void)': refer.o(.text+0xb12): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o: In function `find_reference(char const *, int)': refer.o(.text+0x2bc9): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::search_list_iterator(search_list *, char const *)' refer.o(.text+0x2bf0): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2c45): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d00): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d62): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2dba): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0': refer.o(.text+0x37c1): undefined reference to `search_list::search_list(void)' refer.o(.text+0x381f): undefined reference to `search_list::~search_list(void)' eproc/refer -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_DIRENT_H=1 -DHAVE_LIMITS_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1 -DRET_TYPE_SRAND_IS_VOID=1 -DHAVE_SYS_NERR=1 -DHAVE_SYS_ERRLIST=1 -DHAVE_CC_LIMITS_H=1 -DRETSIGTYPE=void -DHAVE_STRUCT_EXCEPTION=1 -DHAVE_GETPAGESIZE=1 -DHAVE_MMAP=1 -DHAVE_FMOD=1 -DHAVE_STRTOL=1 -DHAVE_GETCWD=1 -DHAVE_STRERROR=1 -DHAVE_PUTENV=1 -DHAVE_RENAME=1 -DHAVE_MKSTEMP=1 -DHAVE_STRCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRNCASECMP=1 -DHAVE_STRSEP=1 -DHAVE_STRDUP=1 -DSYS_SIGLIST_DECLARED=1 -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../../../../contrib/groff/src/in clude -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -static -o refer command.o label.o ref.o refer.o token.o /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l ibbib/libbib.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer/../../../src/libs/l ibgroff/libgroff.a -lm command.o: In function `database_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xbd8): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' command.o: In function `search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xeba): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `no_search_ignore_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xec5): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' command.o: In function `search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xee0): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o(.text+0xeea): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' command.o: In function `no_search_truncate_command(int, argument *)': command.o(.text+0xef9): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `main': refer.o(.text+0x206): undefined reference to `verify_flag' refer.o(.text+0x51b): undefined reference to `linear_ignore_fields' refer.o(.text+0x7d4): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0x8a5): undefined reference to `linear_truncate_len' refer.o: In function `possibly_load_default_database(void)': refer.o(.text+0xb12): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o(.text+0xb2c): undefined reference to `search_list::add_file(char const *, int)' refer.o: In function `find_reference(char const *, int)': refer.o(.text+0x2bc9): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::search_list_iterator(search_list *, char const *)' refer.o(.text+0x2bf0): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2c45): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d00): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o(.text+0x2d62): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::next(char const **, int *, reference_id *)' refer.o(.text+0x2dba): undefined reference to `search_list_iterator::~search_list_iterator(void)' refer.o: In function `__static_initialization_and_destruction_0': refer.o(.text+0x37c1): undefined reference to `search_list::search_list(void)' refer.o(.text+0x381f): undefined reference to `search_list::~search_list(void)' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc/refer. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/src/preproc. *** Error code 1 === Sat-26.05.01-22:41 buildworld 2; make most src $ make most -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Building programs only -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/bin; make all ===> cat Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/cat gzip -cn cat.1 > cat.1.gz ===> chio Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/chio ===> ls Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/ls cc -pipe -pipe -pipe -DCOLORLS -Wall -Wformat -static -o ls cmp.o ls.o print.o util.o -ltermcap ls.o: In function `display': ls.o(.text+0xd49): undefined reference to `fflagstostr' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin/ls. *** Error code 1 ------------8<------------------ anyway, i received many answers to my questions, and i am grateful that you bore with me although i was showing my despair. clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:38:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC5537B43F for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:38:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjklist@ekahuna.com) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:38:52 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:38:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: CVSup minor port problem today Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Message-ID: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After having CVSup'd 2 different machines to RELENG_4 over the last 12 hours and encountered the same problem I'm guessing it's a minor CVS problem. Each time I run CVSup I see the following: Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files" Directory not empty I have been manually deleting the directory and re-running CVSup, and it seems to finish fine after that. Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ECA37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:43:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9B0C66D37; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:43:30 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:26:30PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:26:30PM +0200, clemensF wrote: > i went to "ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/" and took > the snapshot of may 24, 2001 (src/). then i used "install.sh" contained > therein to install right on top of the sources in there after i made sure > that the "--unlink" flag was given to it's tar() command. That's not how you're supposed to install sources. Why did you overwrite the old sources instead of replacing them? Obviously that's not going to delete any extra files removed since your older version. It would have been much more bandwidth-efficient to just use cvsup to update your older sources in-place. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7E4tiWry0BWjoQKURAsIrAKCIYHcOmGF8BxBEJiX+DOCes9QixgCg2O4h OMIiJ8NA9Mai1uM4Gw3ziUk= =1lX9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:44: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7C537B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CA68366D37; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:43:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Philip J. Koenig" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today Message-ID: <20010529044359.B37813@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost>; from pjklist@ekahuna.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:38:52AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:38:52AM -0700, Philip J. Koenig wrote: >=20 > After having CVSup'd 2 different machines to RELENG_4 over the last=20 > 12 hours and encountered the same problem I'm guessing it's a minor=20 > CVS problem. >=20 > Each time I run CVSup I see the following: >=20 > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files" Dire= ctory not empty >=20 >=20 > I have been manually deleting the directory and re-running CVSup, and=20 > it seems to finish fine after that. Yes; see the archives. This has come up approximately 10^6 times in the last week or so. Kris --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7E4t/Wry0BWjoQKURAshRAKDrZCOc8HXQ/q3vp3KUv0ztiNzOEQCfXylK gdGkVuOp6nNS/BtMbCCDMG4= =MAYD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:46:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sbtx.tmn.ru (sbtx.tmn.ru [212.76.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFE037B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:46:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: from sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru [212.76.160.59]) by sbtx.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4TBk4I33237; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:46:04 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg@sbtx.tmn.ru) Received: (from serg@localhost) by sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TBk4608562; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:46:04 +0600 (YEKST) (envelope-from serg) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:46:04 +0600 From: "Sergey N. Voronkov" To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010529174604.A8521@sv.tech.sibitex.tmn.ru> References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:26:30PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:26:30PM +0200, clemensF wrote: [snip] > FreeBSD spotteswoode.yi.org 4.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #11: Tue May 22 19:29:45 CEST 2001 toor@spotteswoode.yi.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/DSLMFS i386 > > i went to "ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/" and took > the snapshot of may 24, 2001 (src/). then i used "install.sh" contained > therein to install right on top of the sources in there after i made sure > that the "--unlink" flag was given to it's tar() command. > > the command used was "make buildworld". > [snip] Try to split your upgrade into two separate steps: 1) Upgrade to 4.1.1-RELEASE 2) Upgrade to 4.3-STABLE Maybe I'm a little wrong in version of the first release name, so please check mailinglist archive to enshure you are preparing to do the right procedure. Also, please check /usr/src/UPDATING very carefull - it is many changes since 4.0 was released. Best Regards, Serg N. Voronokov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 4:56:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net (user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net [207.30.203.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4F637B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scorpio@drkshdw.org) Received: (qmail 9526 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 11:56:52 -0000 Received: from h3u1-a2c897.elp.rr.com (HELO oemcomputer.drkshdw.org) (24.162.200.151) by user4.net011.fl.sprint-hsd.net with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 May 2001 11:56:52 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net> X-Sender: scorpio@jeff.isni.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:52:25 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway From: Jeff Palmer Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010529044359.B37813@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I still say we need a procmail recipe on the list for situations like this. any email with usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files in the body, should automatically be dropped to /dev/null and a reply with the workaround sent to the originator. or, instead of having it dropped to /dev/null put a "moderate" flag on the mail and have a moderator decide if the rest of the list should see it. (thereby allowing legit emails on the topic to get through, while not sending 3 emails a day to 15000(1) users on a topic that has been covered) (1) 15000 was a rough number, I have no idea how many people subscribe to this list. using the 15k number, and 3 emails a day to the list.. each email being about 1k in size.. we would be saving 3* (1000 * 15000) of data going out across the internet. At 04:43 AM 5/29/01 -0700, you wrote: >On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:38:52AM -0700, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > > > After having CVSup'd 2 different machines to RELENG_4 over the last > > 12 hours and encountered the same problem I'm guessing it's a minor > > CVS problem. > > > > Each time I run CVSup I see the following: > > > > Updater failed: Cannot delete > "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files" Directory not empty > > > > > > I have been manually deleting the directory and re-running CVSup, and > > it seems to finish fine after that. > >Yes; see the archives. This has come up approximately 10^6 times in >the last week or so. > >Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 6:29:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0887C37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.203.90.137]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GE3MTA05.BXS; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:34 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca ([192.168.56.40]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f4TDTc4W015208; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B13A442.9020309@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:38 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bert Driehuis Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) References: <3B1059DD.8090505@videotron.ca> <3B124382.3C8C0412@nl.compuware.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000600000803040903070102" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------000600000803040903070102 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are right! Realtek cards are really bad nics... I changed it for a 3com and the problem is gone. Thanks for the info! Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca Bert Driehuis wrote: > Normand Leclerc wrote: > >> The nat machine is a P90 with 32megs of ram. It has a 3com 3B905BTX >> and a cheaper nic connected to the cable modem (realtek). > > > The RealTek cards are so incredibly bad that all bets are off. You may > want to try to eliminate that from the equation. > > Years ago, similar issues existed with NFS over cheap ISA ethernet > cards. The faster you made the system, the slower the connection became. > > Cheers, > > -- Bert > --------------000600000803040903070102 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    You are right!  Realtek cards are really bad nics...  I changed it for a 3com and the problem is gone.

   Thanks for the info!

Normand Leclerc
leclercn@videotron.ca

Bert Driehuis wrote:
Normand Leclerc wrote:

   The nat machine is a P90 with 32megs of ram.  It has a 3com 3B905BTX
and a cheaper nic connected to the cable modem (realtek).

The RealTek cards are so incredibly bad that all bets are off. You may
want to try to eliminate that from the equation.

Years ago, similar issues existed with NFS over cheap ISA ethernet
cards. The faster you made the system, the slower the connection became.

Cheers,

-- Bert


--------------000600000803040903070102-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 6:43:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6606E37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:43:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f4TDh1327016; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200105291343.f4TDh1327016@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mbedynek@insync.net Subject: Re: buildworld failure In-Reply-To: <20010529051840.A24356@vellocet.insync.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:18:40 -0500 >From: Matt Bedynek >I just synced up the latest sources (src-all) via cvsup5.freebsd.org. >Buildworld now fails at the following- I use cvsup14; I did not experience a failure: dhcp-133[1] uname -a FreeBSD dhcp-133.catwhisker.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #31: Tue May 29 06:26:52 PDT 2001 root@dhcp-133.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 dhcp-133[2] Recent CVSup history: CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:47:00 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:53:51 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue May 29 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue May 29 03:53:06 PDT 2001 Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 6:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com (c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com [24.2.168.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506BE37B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tsikora@powerusersbbs.com) Received: from powerusersbbs.com (localhost.htfds1.ct.home.com [127.0.0.1]) by c353425-a.htfds1.ct.home.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TE19Y00380 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:01:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tsikora@powerusersbbs.com) Message-ID: <3B13ABA5.1C6A8802@powerusersbbs.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:01:09 -0400 From: Ted Sikora Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: stable errors References: <200105290458.f4T4wpi25881@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Wolfskill wrote: > > >Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:40:21 -0400 > >From: Ted Sikora > > >May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0040 != 0000). > >May 28 20:47:48 c353425-a /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (0080 != 0000). > > >Did a new kernel after a cvsup today on stable. > > I'm not seeing the symptom. > > This on a laptop with a touchpad (similar to the Dell Inspiron 5000e): > FreeBSD dhcp-133.catwhisker.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #30: Mon May 28 06:33:53 PDT 2001 root@dhcp-133.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 > > Recent CVSup history: > CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:47:01 PDT 2001 > CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sat May 26 03:52:48 PDT 2001 > CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:47:01 PDT 2001 > CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Sun May 27 03:53:36 PDT 2001 > CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:47:00 PDT 2001 > CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Mon May 28 03:53:51 PDT 2001 > > In case it's significant, I'm running moused: > dhcp-133[3] ps -axwwl|grep moused > 0 272 1 0 2 0 892 520 select Ss ?? 0:00.16 moused -3 -p /dev/psm0 -t auto > I get it only on one (old)machine. The rest are fine. Must be hardware related. It's close to retirement anyways. --Ted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 8:17:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BC837B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 08:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tvrusso@sandia.gov) Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v4.7)); Tue, 29 May 2001 09:16:53 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c Received: from es08snlnt.sandia.gov (es08snlnt.sandia.gov [134.253.130.11]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4TFGpn24292 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:16: 51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sandia.gov (tvrusso.sandia.gov [134.253.119.91]) by es08snlnt.sandia.gov with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id LKR8N0DC; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:16:51 -0600 Message-ID: <3B13BD63.6CBDC2DF@sandia.gov> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:16:51 -0600 From: "Thomas Russo" Reply-To: tvrusso@sandia.gov Organization: Sandia National Laboratory Materials Simulation Science Department X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stateside CTM mirror? Crypto? X-Filter-Version: 1.3 (sass165) X-WSS-ID: 170D62EE153216-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've two questions about keeping "stable" with CTM. I don't update my systems that often (last one was -4.0529), but it's been long enough that I'm considering doing it again this weekend. 1) What is the preferred stateside mirror for CTM files? ftp.freebsd.org seems to have stopped updating them on 1 May! I've been using the mirror at ns3.saargate.de, but it seems strange to have to go to Germany to get them. 2) I just read a digest claiming that -4.0538 and beyond will break due to crypto not being updated. Is that true? And if so, where are the crypto CTMs? The ftp.internat.freebsd.org site doesn't have any recent CTM files, either. Thanks, T. -- Thomas Russo * tvrusso@sandia.gov * Dept 1734, Component Information and Models * Mail Stop 0525, Sandia National Laboratories * Albuquerque, NM 87185-0525 * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 9:15: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11507.mail.yahoo.com (web11507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7B6737B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:15:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bayers@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.52.128] by web11507.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:15:06 PDT Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Bayers Subject: Switching Back to kernel.old To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How do I get the boot loader to load kernel.old instead of kernel. I followed the instructions in UPDATE, so I did an 'install kernel' before I did a 'install world'. Is there a way to get boot loader to load kernel.old automatically. It loads fine from the prompt now by typing 'boot kernel.old', but it's not automatically loaded. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 9:25:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (chfdns02.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FFD37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.39 2001/05/18 00:47:02 root Exp $) with ESMTP id QAA04095; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:25:22 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id JAA19548; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:25:22 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA19615; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:25:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15123.52593.272070.163508@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:25:21 -0700 To: Jim Bayers Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching Back to kernel.old In-Reply-To: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Tuesday, May 29, Jim Bayers wrote: ] > How do I get the boot loader to load kernel.old > instead of kernel. > > I followed the instructions in UPDATE, so I did an > 'install kernel' before I did a 'install world'. > > Is there a way to get boot loader to load kernel.old > automatically. > > It loads fine from the prompt now by typing 'boot > kernel.old', but it's not automatically loaded. Question #1: Why do you need to do this? The instructions hint that a "make installkernel" followed by a reboot is the best way to determine if the newly-built kernel will boot or not. Once you establish that it does, then you can followup with a "make installworld" and do the mergemaster step to update /etc (note: the reboot *can* be skipped). If, perhaps, kernel changes have rendered the newly-built kernel as unusable on your system, then you can "back out" of the whole process by moving the /kernel.old to /kernel and moving your /modules.old directory back over to /modules. You'll probably have to mess with "chflags" to get rid of the 'schg' flag that would be on the /kernel file. Given the above, you can get the boot loader to do what you want if you have a good reason for doing it. In /boot/loader.conf put kernel="/kernel.old" and that will do what you want to do--just make sure it's what you should be doing :) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 9:26: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phoncella.outreachnetworks.com (adsl-dynamic35-169.detroit.mi.ameritech.net [64.108.244.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D54937B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ehoward@phoncella.outreachnetworks.com) Received: (from ehoward@localhost) by phoncella.outreachnetworks.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4TGPuv17716 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 29 May 2001 12:25:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:25:56 -0400 From: "Eric L. Howard" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Switching Back to kernel.old Message-ID: <20010529122556.C16708@outreachnetworks.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com>; from bayers@yahoo.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:15:06AM -0700 X-FavoriteScripture: Romans 8:18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At a certain time, now past, Jim Bayers spake thusly: > How do I get the boot loader to load kernel.old > instead of kernel. > > I followed the instructions in UPDATE, so I did an > 'install kernel' before I did a 'install world'. > > Is there a way to get boot loader to load kernel.old > automatically. > > It loads fine from the prompt now by typing 'boot > kernel.old', but it's not automatically loaded. > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-trouble.html URL may be wrapped... ~ELH~ -- Eric L. Howard e l h @ o u t r e a c h n e t w o r k s . c o m ---------------------------------------------------------------------- www.OutreachNetworks.com 313.297.9900 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 10:17:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neko.cts.com (neko.cts.com [209.68.192.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2660237B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from venus.cts.com (venus.cts.com [216.120.25.34]) by neko.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22425 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (wap-i [192.168.0.2]) by venus.cts.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4THHOL06489 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: Kernel build errors Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000401c0e863$4838eb30$2c01a8c0@cts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2511 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2475.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm upgrading from 4.2 to 4.3. Trying to build kernels for 4.3-stable after getting a completely fresh load from cvsup last night: ===> smbfs make: don't know how to make des_ecb.c. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error Is this really a bug, or are there new hierarchies I need to add to my supfile that are either new for 4.3 or now required? Here's my supfile: *default host=cvsup13.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix #src-all #ports-all #doc-all #www #src-games #src-kerberos5 #src-kerberosIV src-base src-bin src-contrib src-crypto src-etc src-gnu src-include src-lib src-libexec src-release src-sbin src-secure src-share src-sys src-tools src-usrbin src-usrsbin Thanks. --Morgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 10:41:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0543337B423; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4THev514301; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4THeud09397; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4THeuu69508; Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:40:56 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Andre Albsmeier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, markm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Heads Up for users tracking -STABLE with CTM Message-ID: <20010529194056.A83773@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <20010526150235.A8391@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <20010526134914.C60096@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010526134914.C60096@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, May 26, 2001 at 01:49:15PM -0700 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 26-May-2001 at 13:49:15 -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 03:02:35PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > I am posting this message since I saw at least one user > > confused by this and was bitten by the same thing... > > > > > > Beware if you are tracking -STABLE with CTM. Starting with > > src-4.0538.gz you will have problems doing a 'make world'. > > This is because some changes were made to files in > > /usr/src/secure that are needed for 'make world' to succeed. > > Unfortunately, neither /usr/src/secure nor /usr/src/crypto get > > updated by CTM. (No, I don't know why. I have sent a PR and > > mailed to ctm@freebsd.org about this already.) > > There's a separate CTM distribution for the crypto stuff. However, > it's breakage that secure/ or crypto/ is required to make world. > It seems to be fixed now. The very recent deltas contained updates for the crypto stuff. Thanks to whoever did it! -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 13: 1:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDE737B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TK1c097967; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4TK1bf23305; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105292001.f4TK1bf23305@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: pjklist@ekahuna.com Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today In-Reply-To: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> References: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost>, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > After having CVSup'd 2 different machines to RELENG_4 over the last > 12 hours and encountered the same problem I'm guessing it's a minor > CVS problem. > > Each time I run CVSup I see the following: > > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files" Directory not empty The work-around for this problem is described here, near the end of the page: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 13:10:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119EC37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TKAI098031 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4TKAI423356; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105292010.f4TKAI423356@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net> References: <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net>, Jeff Palmer wrote: > I still say we need a procmail recipe on the list for situations like this. > > any email with usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files in the body, > should automatically be dropped to /dev/null and a reply > with the workaround sent to the originator. > > or, instead of having it dropped to /dev/null > put a "moderate" flag on the mail and have a moderator decide if the rest > of the list should see it. > (thereby allowing legit emails on the topic to get through, while not sending > 3 emails a day to 15000(1) users on a topic that has been covered) > > (1) 15000 was a rough number, I have no idea how many people subscribe to > this list. > > using the 15k number, and 3 emails a day to the list.. > each email being about 1k in size.. > we would be saving 3* (1000 * 15000) of data going out across the internet. I spent a couple of years regularly ragging on people to check the archives. Guess what? It doesn't work and it's a waste of time. It just makes us all look like a bunch of grumps. (Not to mention that the search engine isn't working too well these days.) If these repeats are annoying you, then your best bet is to filter them locally or ignore them some other way. Leave it to those who are willing (like Peter Pentchev, David Chapman, and me) to answer these questions. Really, sometimes you just have to accept reality and face the fact that your ideal world is unachievable. There are people who will check the archives and there are people who won't in a million years. And there are people who check the archives but don't find what they were looking for. Get over it and learn to ignore the messages that annoy you. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.0.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C99937B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evenson@panix.com) Received: from panix6.panix.com (panix6.panix.com [166.84.0.231]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF200981C9; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from evenson@localhost) by panix6.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id RAA25082; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:06:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: panix6.panix.com: evenson set sender to evenson@panix.com using -f To: Jim Bayers Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Switching Back to kernel.old References: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> From: Mark Evenson Date: 29 May 2001 17:06:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: Jim Bayers's message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 09:15:06 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Bayers writes: > How do I get the boot loader to load kernel.old > instead of kernel. > > I followed the instructions in UPDATE, so I did an > 'install kernel' before I did a 'install world'. > > Is there a way to get boot loader to load kernel.old > automatically. What works for me: 1) Select the BSD partition from the boot loader (hit the F[1-4] key) 2) when you see the "booting in 9 secs . . ." message, hit SPACE 3) type: ok unload ok load /kernel.orig ok boot and that should do it. I really haven't seen this well documented, but I figured this out on my own one day so it is the recipe I use. -- Mark Evenson "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (chfdns01.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8938837B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.39 2001/05/18 00:47:02 root Exp $) with ESMTP id VAA05445; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:10:09 GMT Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.14 2001/01/02 18:39:59 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id OAA25878; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:10:09 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id RAA07497; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:10:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.4144.735952.313946@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:10:08 -0700 To: Mark Evenson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Switching Back to kernel.old In-Reply-To: References: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On , May 29, Mark Evenson wrote: ] > > What works for me: > > 1) Select the BSD partition from the boot loader (hit the F[1-4] key) > > 2) when you see the "booting in 9 secs . . ." message, hit SPACE > > 3) type: > > ok unload > ok load /kernel.orig > ok boot > > and that should do it. I really haven't seen this well documented, but I > figured this out on my own one day so it is the recipe I use. > that will only select the kernel that is booted once. If you truly wanted to have a kernel named something other then /kernel (whether it be /kernel.old or /foobar) you have to edit /boot/loader.conf and place a: kernel="/whatever" line in there. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, (space for rent, cheap!) | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:18:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9868337B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C9E2E461 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TLIJj76661; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:18:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:18:19 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given some recent security issues with older versions of ssh, and that some attacks involve replacing the ssh binary on compromized systems to capture additional passwords, wouldn't it be prudent to mark the ssh related binaries as schg? The rsh related ones already are so marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries should as well. If I set the flags manually, will it barf on make installworld next time around or does installworld unset all schg flags before installing? Perusing the makefiles, I don't see how the rsh related files have schg cleared prior to the new installation, but it must get done, right? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:18:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wattres.Watt.COM (wattres.watt.com [205.178.120.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96AE37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.Watt.COM (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TLIj284899 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve) Message-Id: <200105292118.f4TLIj284899@wattres.Watt.COM> X-Newsgroups: local.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <000401c0e863$4838eb30$2c01a8c0@cts.com> Organization: Watt Consultants, San Jose, CA, USA From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:18:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel build errors Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In <000401c0e863$4838eb30$2c01a8c0@cts.com>, mdavis@cts.com wrote: >I'm upgrading from 4.2 to 4.3. Trying to build kernels for 4.3-stable >after getting a completely fresh load from cvsup last night: > >===> smbfs >make: don't know how to make des_ecb.c. Stop >*** Error code 2 [ ... ] > >Is this really a bug, or are there new hierarchies I need to add to my >supfile that are either new for 4.3 or now required? Here's my supfile: I've seen this several times now, and in fact did it myself for a while: Why do we feel the need to list all of the components of src individually in the supfile rather than just using src-all? Like I said, I did it for a while until the crypto stuff tripped me. Is there a sample file around somewhere that shows doing the individual pieces? That file needs to be ... "repaired". :) >#src-all Just uncomment this and delete src-* below. -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA ICBM: 121W 56' 57.8" / 37N 20' 14.9" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Whois: SW32 Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:42:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D8437B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 154rFg-0005Em-00; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:42:08 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Normand Leclerc'" , "'Bert Driehuis'" Cc: Subject: RE: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:41:39 +1200 Message-ID: <02e401c0e888$24866e40$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <3B13A442.9020309@videotron.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: You are right! Realtek cards are really bad nics... I changed it for a 3com and the :: problem is gone. Hmmm... I wouldn't say that 3Com NICs are the best choices for FreeBSD. See the archives for further details. Intel EtherExpress seems to be the safest bet. -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:47:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FFE37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154rL9-000Nkt-00; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:47:47 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TLrSB01425; Tue, 29 May 2001 23:53:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:53:28 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Juha Saarinen Cc: "'Normand Leclerc'" , "'Bert Driehuis'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) Message-ID: <20010529235328.A1394@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3B13A442.9020309@videotron.ca> <02e401c0e888$24866e40$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <02e401c0e888$24866e40$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:39AM +1200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:41:39AM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: You are right! Realtek cards are really bad nics... I changed it > for a 3com and the > :: problem is gone. > > Hmmm... I wouldn't say that 3Com NICs are the best choices for FreeBSD. > See the archives for further details. Intel EtherExpress seems to be the > safest bet. There has been a lot of debate on the Intel cards lately as well. Don't recall the details. I, for one, am quite happy with the 3Com 3c905-TX. Apart from PR: kern/27722 that is ;-) Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:53: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FA237B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:53:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 154rQ6-0005FH-00; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:52:54 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Wilko Bulte'" Cc: "'Normand Leclerc'" , "'Bert Driehuis'" , Subject: RE: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:52:24 +1200 Message-ID: <031001c0e889$a557eb60$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010529235328.A1394@freebie.demon.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: There has been a lot of debate on the Intel cards lately as :: well. Don't :: recall the details. That was the driver change, wasn't it? Requires the use of mii-bus now. :: I, for one, am quite happy with the 3Com :: 3c905-TX. :: Apart from PR: kern/27722 that is ;-) I experienced network dropouts with one of those... no problems whatsoever with an Intel NIC. My usual hardware supplier say they keep a stash of Intel NICs for UNIX customers, as it's the preferred card for them. -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 14:56:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184C37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:56:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 85D7C671A4; Tue, 29 May 2001 14:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:56:09 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kcilink.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:18:19PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:18:19PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > Given some recent security issues with older versions of ssh, and that > some attacks involve replacing the ssh binary on compromized systems > to capture additional passwords, wouldn't it be prudent to mark the > ssh related binaries as schg? The rsh related ones already are so > marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries > should as well. No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. Kris --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FBr5Wry0BWjoQKURAr/BAJ9GXOQmC83nI/ktKGSyefAhMOMC3gCcCCN4 ZlP6gGQpZknmbgfapfqrGn0= =nKfc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 15: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5D737B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC922E462 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4TLxvA29737; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:59:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:59:56 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-Reply-To: <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "KK" == Kris Kennaway writes: >> marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries >> should as well. KK> No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting KK> feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. I disagree. If my machine is at securelevel > 0, schg is a damned fine security mesasure to protect sensitive programs from being trojaned. There's just no way around it short of having access to the console. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 15: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1DA37B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from evenson@panix.com) Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [166.84.0.227]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089434872D; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from evenson@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id SAA18845; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:06:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: panix2.panix.com: evenson set sender to evenson@panix.com using -f To: John Reynolds~ Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Switching Back to kernel.old References: <20010529161506.49574.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> <15124.4144.735952.313946@hip186.ch.intel.com> From: Mark Evenson Date: 29 May 2001 18:06:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: John Reynolds~'s message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 14:10:08 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Reynolds~ writes: > [ On , May 29, Mark Evenson wrote: ] > > that will only select the kernel that is booted once. If you truly wanted to > have a kernel named something other then /kernel (whether it be /kernel.old or > /foobar) you have to edit /boot/loader.conf and place a: > > kernel="/whatever" [...] Agreed: I was reading too fast! -- Mark Evenson "A screaming comes across the sky. It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare to it now." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 15:11:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8419D37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:11:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TMBpB30316; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :>> marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries :>> should as well. : :KK> No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting :KK> feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. : :I disagree. If my machine is at securelevel > 0, schg is a damned :fine security mesasure to protect sensitive programs from being :trojaned. There's just no way around it short of having access to the :console. I have to disagree with your disagreement. Short of making every single program and configuration file in the entire system schg, all that happens is that the hacker trojans your machine some other (and possibly less detectable) way. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 15:18:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A6837B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154rp3-000Odo-00; Tue, 29 May 2001 22:18:42 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TMONa01569; Wed, 30 May 2001 00:24:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:24:23 +0200 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: Juha Saarinen Cc: "'Normand Leclerc'" , "'Bert Driehuis'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) Message-ID: <20010530002423.A1555@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010529235328.A1394@freebie.demon.nl> <031001c0e889$a557eb60$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <031001c0e889$a557eb60$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:52:24AM +1200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:52:24AM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: There has been a lot of debate on the Intel cards lately as > :: well. Don't > :: recall the details. > > That was the driver change, wasn't it? Requires the use of mii-bus now. Not completely. Some undocumented things were enabled in the phy chip for use on the fxp (...) driver. Which seem to break the xl driver :-( > :: I, for one, am quite happy with the 3Com > :: 3c905-TX. > :: Apart from PR: kern/27722 that is ;-) > > I experienced network dropouts with one of those... no problems > whatsoever with an Intel NIC. My usual hardware supplier say they keep a > stash of Intel NICs for UNIX customers, as it's the preferred card for > them. My laptop has an Intel nic and that works fine, I agree. I have not had bad network problems with the 3COMs. YMMV it seems Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 15:32:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from psychotic.aberrant.org (psychotic.aberrant.org [64.81.134.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C85A37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org) Received: by psychotic.aberrant.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D889072501; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:32:39 -0400 From: Seth To: Matt Dillon Cc: Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:11:51PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we agree that it (that is, securelevel > 0 and schg on selected binaries) raises the bar a bit higher? If so, it seems to me that it might be worth doing (though most appropriately on a user-by-user basis). Seth. On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 03:11:51PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > :>> marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries > :>> should as well. > : > :KK> No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting > :KK> feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. > : > :I disagree. If my machine is at securelevel > 0, schg is a damned > :fine security mesasure to protect sensitive programs from being > :trojaned. There's just no way around it short of having access to the > :console. > > I have to disagree with your disagreement. Short of making every > single program and configuration file in the entire system schg, all > that happens is that the hacker trojans your machine some other (and > possibly less detectable) way. > > -Matt > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:15:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409B837B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TNFOu31573; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:15:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> To: Seth Cc: Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :Can we agree that it (that is, securelevel > 0 and schg on selected binaries) :raises the bar a bit higher? If so, it seems to me that it might be worth :doing (though most appropriately on a user-by-user basis). : :Seth. Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is forcing the hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less detectable way to compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making the problem *worse*. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:24:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.rwwa.com (ns1.rwwa.com [66.92.67.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5E737B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from rwwa.com (harvey.rwwa.com [192.124.97.11]) by ns1.rwwa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA73334; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:24:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <200105292324.TAA73334@ns1.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Seth , Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 16:15:24 PDT." <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:27:18 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dillon@earth.backplane.com said: :- Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is forcing :- the hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less detectable way :- to compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making the :- problem *worse*. Maybe your security hat needs cleaning? The whole game is played by raising the cost of hacking. Using your theory, we should eliminate all passwords. *Then* we'd be pretty sure no hacker would trouble himself by using any obscure hacking methods. (Of course, that would be like windows, wouldn't it?) No system is un-hackable. But a prudent person raises the cost of hacking the system (read that as raising the difficulty) so that it is larger than the expected gain of hacking the system. That is the best you can do. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (cust-P5-R6-49.POOL.ESR.SJO.wwc.com [206.112.109.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8DC637B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4TNaRT01704; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Matt Dillon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 16:15:24 PDT." <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:36:27 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > :Can we agree that it (that is, securelevel > 0 and schg on selected binaries) > :raises the bar a bit higher? If so, it seems to me that it might be worth > :doing (though most appropriately on a user-by-user basis). > : > :Seth. > > Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is forcing the > hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less detectable way to > compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making the problem > *worse*. Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. The real reason why setting schg is bad is because it's a major pain in the arse. All security is a tradeoff against functionality/ease of use, and the proposed policy goes too far the wrong way. Yes, there are good arguments for making it easy to lock a system down; the steps involved in this process should be considered a lot more carefully though - we're seeing a lot of armchair generalship and very little high-level thought being applied here. 8( -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:28:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3B037B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.203.90.137]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GE4EIW00.MPU; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:28:08 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca ([192.168.56.40]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f4TNS84W016431; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B143088.7020308@videotron.ca> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:28:08 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juha Saarinen Cc: "'Bert Driehuis'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ip_divert blues (was natd blues) References: <02e401c0e888$24866e40$0a01a8c0@den2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I've never had any problems with this card besindes those weird messages about treshold being augmented.... They work well for me... ;) Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: You are right! Realtek cards are really bad nics... I changed it > for a 3com and the > :: problem is gone. > > Hmmm... I wouldn't say that 3Com NICs are the best choices for FreeBSD. > See the archives for further details. Intel EtherExpress seems to be the > safest bet. > > -- Juha > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:29:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E532337B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sven.huster@mailsurf.com) Received: from venus (adsl-34261.turboline.skynet.be [217.136.5.213]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with SMTP id f4TNTNs04847; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:29:24 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) From: "Sven Huster" To: "Matt Dillon" , "Seth" Cc: "Vivek Khera" , Subject: RE: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 01:30:34 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Matt Dillon > Sent: 30 May, 2001 01:15 > To: Seth > Cc: Vivek Khera; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends > > > *This message was transferred with a trial version of > CommuniGate(tm) Pro* > > : > :Can we agree that it (that is, securelevel > 0 and schg on > selected binaries) > :raises the bar a bit higher? If so, it seems to me that it > might be worth > :doing (though most appropriately on a user-by-user basis). > : > :Seth. > > Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is > forcing the > hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less > detectable way to > compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making > the problem > *worse*. the arguments here are a little bit funny. give the hacker the possibility otherwise he would do much more evil things. uhhh... i thought every single step to make a machine secure should be taken. regards Sven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:34:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AE037B423; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:34:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TNYKg31968; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:34:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is :logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad :idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: * you schg a binary * hacker breaks root * hacker is unable to modify binary. Whoopie. Hacker decides to rm -rf your data files instead. Problem: Hacker was still able to break root. Setting schg on the file didn't save you from that. * you have a hole in telnetd * you fix the hole * hacker is unable to break root No problem. Your solution prevented the hacker from breaking root in the first place. So what did setting schg accomplish? Did it prevent the hacker from breaking into the machine? No. Did it prevent the hacker from compromising the machine? Not unless you set schg on every single file and binary (even the non-suid ones) in the system! Might it cause the hacker to find some other way to compromise the machine, perhaps a way that your current security scripts will not detect? It sure could! So: setting schg is worse then useless. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:38:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (cust-P5-R6-49.POOL.ESR.SJO.wwc.com [206.112.109.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6705D37B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4TNkvT01837; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105292346.f4TNkvT01837@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Matt Dillon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 16:34:20 PDT." <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:46:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > :Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is > :logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad > :idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. > > I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: You're missing the point. Stop arguing with me; I agree with you. I'm just telling you that the logic you're using to support your arguments is faulty, and the argument suffers as a result. 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:38:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11EE37B43E for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TNciU32058; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105292338.f4TNciU32058@earth.backplane.com> To: Robert Withrow Cc: Seth , Vivek Khera , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <200105292324.TAA73334@ns1.rwwa.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : : :dillon@earth.backplane.com said: ::- Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is forcing ::- the hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less detectable way ::- to compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making the ::- problem *worse*. : :Maybe your security hat needs cleaning? The whole game is played by raising :the cost of hacking. Using your theory, we should eliminate all passwords. :*Then* we'd be pretty sure no hacker would trouble himself by using any :obscure hacking methods. (Of course, that would be like windows, wouldn't :it?) No, I didn't say that at all. Using my theory, you don't eliminate all passwords, you move them off the machine (e.g. move to NIS or something) so if a hacker breaks into your multi-user box with a compromised password, he has no way to get the *REST* of the passwords (crypted or not) and break them offline. So moving the passwords off the machine (or removing them) accomplishes something real. Setting schg on a file does not. You think this would slow a hacker down? You think it's raising the bar? It might raise the bar a millimeter or so if the hacker is even more stupid then your typical script kiddie. Otherwise, no. A prudent sysad implements security features that actually have a reasonable effect. Setting schg on a file doesn't. It might give you a false piece of mind, but it will have no positive effect and almost certainly have a major negative one. At BEST we monitored hackers all the time. Do you want to know what they did when they got frustrated? 'rm -rf /' is what they did... fortunately, at BEST, the only times they did that was when they couldn't break root so all they did was wipe the user's account. Once a hacker breaks root, all you can do is mitigate the damage... but before you can mitigate it, you have to *detect* that your machine has actually been compromised. The easiest way to detect 98% of compromised machines is to locate modified binaries or new suid binaries. Take that away and you've just blown 98% of the effectiveness of your security system. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 16:42:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4E37B422; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4TNgil32170; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105292342.f4TNgil32170@earth.backplane.com> To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <200105292346.f4TNkvT01837@mass.dis.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :> :Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is :> :logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad :> :idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. :> :> I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: : :You're missing the point. Stop arguing with me; I agree with you. I'm :just telling you that the logic you're using to support your arguments is :faulty, and the argument suffers as a result. 8) Well, then I'm not sure what you are complaining about. Somebody labeled 'schg' as being a security feature, and I disagreed. It could be called a safety feature, but it certainly is not a security feature. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 17:26:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C3337B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E8768671A4; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:26:16 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010529172616.A2903@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kcilink.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:59:56PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 05:59:56PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "KK" =3D=3D Kris Kennaway writes: >=20 > >> marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries > >> should as well. >=20 > KK> No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting > KK> feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. >=20 > I disagree. If my machine is at securelevel > 0, schg is a damned > fine security mesasure to protect sensitive programs from being > trojaned. There's just no way around it short of having access to the > console. Yes, there are lots of ways of removing schg flags (all involving a reboot) unless you basically chflags -R schg / Please consult the -security archives for a number of discussions of this issue; it's come up several times. It's not a totally useless security measure because I'm sure there are some people who would be fooled by it, but it doesn't take that much thought to get around unless you lock down your machine so tight as to basically be un-maintainable. Kris --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FD4oWry0BWjoQKURAsvaAKDp5rT8th1s8Bge/jOb8OBu5NW6HQCcCSMw HQOAmB5y3ZPlAX3vH4Pt5JE= =OpxF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 17:48:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.netcom.com (freebsd.netcom.com [199.174.33.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA0137B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugs@freebsd.netcom.com) Received: (from bugs@localhost) by freebsd.netcom.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id TAA00588 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:48:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Hittinger Message-Id: <200105300048.TAA00588@freebsd.netcom.com> Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:48:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > KK> No; schg isn't a security feature, at best it's an anti-foot-shooting > > KK> feature to prevent accidental trashing of the file. Even worse, its a backup "breaking" feature that causes errors when you try to DD your system drive to another, and then update it later with rsync :-) If you aren't careful important updates to things like 'init' won't get propogated to your hot standby system drive. If you -current you might need a hot standy system drive someday :-) Well.....even if you -stable :-) Later Mark Hittinger Earthlink bugs@netcom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 20:44:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C442537B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 20:44:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154wuP-0003WF-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 05:44:33 +0200 Received: from b3c03.pppool.de ([213.7.60.3] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx3.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154wuO-0005dI-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 30 May 2001 05:44:33 +0200 Received: (qmail 2998 invoked by uid 0); 30 May 2001 03:44:51 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 05:44:51 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B1090C8.B4FF2156@pacbell.net> <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:43:30AM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kris Kennaway: > > i went to "ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/" and took > > the snapshot of may 24, 2001 (src/). then i used "install.sh" contained > > therein to install right on top of the sources in there after i made sure > > that the "--unlink" flag was given to it's tar() command. > > That's not how you're supposed to install sources. Why did you > overwrite the old sources instead of replacing them? Obviously that's > not going to delete any extra files removed since your older version. > > It would have been much more bandwidth-efficient to just use cvsup to > update your older sources in-place. that's what i did twice before that. and old files can't be a problem, because they won't get referenced by the new sources, right? and if they will get referenced, it could be only because there was no new version replacing it, right? in the end this would lead to uncovering dependencies not covered by uptodate/current files stored on the cvsup-server by the current procedures. i should add that i "rm -rf /usr/src"'ed all the old files a few days ago, because i knew i could always replace them with the versions on my (old) freebsd 4.0 cd's. that's obviously what happened. or take the differences between /usr/share/mk/* and /usr/src/share/mk/*. make buildworld, for example, calls tsort with the flag "-q", which does not exist in my version, so builds relying on on the order of symbols fail. not surprisingly, fixing this peculiarity lets a build proceed much farther. fortunately, i must say now in retrospect, the german telekom lets people wait ages for their dsl access, which gave me time to prepare a kernel with all the neccessary options not contained in the generic kernel way before this tune began. there's not much point now in pushing ahead with this, i just hope my kernel will do what is needed. i am not sure if i am really the only one ever been in such a mess, or if the "silent majority" running into this stays silent and orders new cd's instead, thus inhibiting progress in the overall quality and robustness of the update/build process. nonetheless i'll sit down to try to figure out just how my sources went askew, and then i'll propably get those cd's myself, if only to support the freebsd project. should somebody have an idea as to how exactly get a clean start with what file base and which commands, i'd be happy to give it a try. not much that can be destroyed now, and i was wise enough to at least back up the libraries :) clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 21:34:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133AB37B42C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E60D7671A4; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:34:14 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: clemensF Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010526225855A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org>; from rabat@web.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:44:51AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:44:51AM +0200, clemensF wrote: > > That's not how you're supposed to install sources. Why did you > > overwrite the old sources instead of replacing them? Obviously that's > > not going to delete any extra files removed since your older version. > >=20 > > It would have been much more bandwidth-efficient to just use cvsup to > > update your older sources in-place. >=20 > that's what i did twice before that. and old files can't be a problem, > because they won't get referenced by the new sources, right? and if they > will get referenced, it could be only because there was no new version > replacing it, right? Wrong assumption. > in the end this would lead to uncovering dependencies not covered by > uptodate/current files stored on the cvsup-server by the current > procedures. i should add that i "rm -rf /usr/src"'ed all the old files > a few days ago, because i knew i could always replace them with the > versions on my (old) freebsd 4.0 cd's. >=20 > that's obviously what happened. or take the differences between > /usr/share/mk/* and /usr/src/share/mk/*. make buildworld, for example, > calls tsort with the flag "-q", which does not exist in my version, so > builds relying on on the order of symbols fail. not surprisingly, fixing > this peculiarity lets a build proceed much farther. Aha, now we're getting somewhere. Just what version are you trying to update from, anyway? tsort -q has existed since 1996. Source-level updates from a 5 year old system are by no means supported. Kris --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FHhFWry0BWjoQKURAmfyAJ9ETTperb+M1pYmlR2ZMsJ4OXjInACZAVnY 6zSgibhZHie4/ZFl5NoCUTk= =JZr0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 21:50: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from citusc17.usc.edu (citusc17.usc.edu [128.125.38.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1C637B423; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:49:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@citusc17.usc.edu) Received: (from kris@localhost) by citusc17.usc.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4U4nt700452; Tue, 29 May 2001 21:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:49:54 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@FreeBSD.org Cc: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.3-STABLE page fault Message-ID: <20010529214954.A444@citusc17.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I just had this crash while using the Linux version of netscape on a recent RELENG_4; perhaps someone has time to look at this. Kris citusc17# gdb -k kernel.debug vmcore.4 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 4177920 initial pcb at 334060 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0231132 stack pointer = 0x10:0xc65f3b58 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc65f3b58 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 422 (communicator-lin) interrupt mask = bio trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 54 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 giving up on 1 buffers Uptime: 4h59m8s dumping to dev #ad/0x30001, offset 393216 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 469 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 #1 0xc01490d0 in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:309 #2 0xc0149471 in panic (fmt=0xc02e4f0f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:556 #3 0xc029e2e3 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc65f3b18, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:951 #4 0xc029df7d in trap_pfault (frame=0xc65f3b18, usermode=0, eva=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:844 #5 0xc029db0b in trap (frame={tf_fs = -966852592, tf_es = -966852592, tf_ds = -966852592, tf_edi = -967293536, tf_esi = -966338880, tf_ebp = -966837416, tf_isp = -966837436, tf_ebx = -1059294976, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1059294976, tf_eax = 0, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1071443662, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -966837396, tf_ss = -1071443298}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:443 #6 0xc0231132 in ufs_ihashrem (ip=0xc0dc7100) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_ihash.c:152 #7 0xc023129e in ufs_reclaim (ap=0xc65f3b90) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_inode.c:130 #8 0xc02365c4 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xc65f3b90) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2373 #9 0xc0176d42 in vclean (vp=0xc666d6c0, flags=8, p=0xc65845a0) at vnode_if.h:836 #10 0xc0176ec0 in vgonel (vp=0xc666d6c0, p=0xc65845a0) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:1847 #11 0xc017585e in getnewvnode (tag=VT_UFS, mp=0xc0d03a00, vops=0xc0cba000, vpp=0xc65f3c38) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:534 #12 0xc022e59b in ffs_vget (mp=0xc0d03a00, ino=883146, vpp=0xc65f3c84) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:1069 #13 0xc0223504 in ffs_valloc (pvp=0xc6015840, mode=33188, cred=0xc0d32100, vpp=0xc65f3c84) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:600 #14 0xc02362f6 in ufs_makeinode (mode=33188, dvp=0xc6015840, vpp=0xc65f3ec0, cnp=0xc65f3ed4) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2088 #15 0xc0233bbb in ufs_create (ap=0xc65f3de0) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:190 #16 0xc02365c4 in ufs_vnoperate (ap=0xc65f3de0) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2373 #17 0xc017d0fe in vn_open (ndp=0xc65f3eac, fmode=1538, cmode=420) at vnode_if.h:106 #18 0xc0179200 in open (p=0xc65845a0, uap=0xc65f3f2c) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:995 #19 0xc02685cd in linux_open (p=0xc65845a0, args=0xc65f3f80) at ../../compat/linux/linux_file.c:130 #20 0xc029e551 in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 148766767, tf_es = 684326959, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 145250410, tf_esi = 4, tf_ebp = -1077942968, tf_isp = -966836268, tf_ebx = 155595904, tf_edx = 438, tf_ecx = 577, tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 7, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 685477108, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 514, tf_esp = -1077943008, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #21 0xc028fba5 in Xint0x80_syscall () --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FHvyWry0BWjoQKURAurnAKDo91Zfv/L6B6ihMD9kTRzvudZUSgCcCa3h oAFjhkRGDBnC8itzWYWJDE8= =9vjI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 29 22:13: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41C637B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 22:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA70907; Tue, 29 May 2001 22:10:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B1480BA.3262FBA8@DougBarton.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:10:18 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Vivek Khera wrote: > > Given some recent security issues with older versions of ssh, and that > some attacks involve replacing the ssh binary on compromized systems > to capture additional passwords, wouldn't it be prudent to mark the > ssh related binaries as schg? The rsh related ones already are so > marked, and it just seems to follow to me that ssh related binaries > should as well. > > If I set the flags manually, will it barf on make installworld next > time around or does installworld unset all schg flags before > installing? It does not. As you've encountered, there will be no consensus on adding schg to the default install of , so it's on you to adopt a suitable local policy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 0:37:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BEE37B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 00:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id KOK56161; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:28 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4U7aIf02155; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:36:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:36:18 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: Willie Bollinger Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with cvsup Message-ID: <20010530103618.A1471@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <3B0BBADF.4C904C35@cvzoom.net> <20010523093526.B55822@account.abs.net> <20010523093728.C55822@account.abs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010523093728.C55822@account.abs.net>; from willie@abs.net on Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:37:28AM -0400 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:37:28, willie (Willie Bollinger) wrote about "Re: Problems with cvsup": > > # whereis make > > make: /usr/bin/make /usr/share/man/man1/make.1.gz /usr/src/usr.bin/make `whereis' is not applicable to this case. say `which -a make'. And also you can recreate the BSD make quickly: cd /usr/src/usr.bin/make make -f Makefile.dist pmake install -c pmake /usr/bin/make find . -name '*.o' -delete rm pmake /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 1: 1:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kamidake.apricot.com (kamidake.apricot.com [64.32.145.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BB137B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@kamidake.apricot.com) Received: from matsubue.apricot.com (root@matsubue.apricot.com [64.32.145.207]) by kamidake.apricot.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4U81CS12609 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@kamidake.apricot.com) Received: from matsubue.apricot.com (scanner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by matsubue.apricot.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4U82Hn06027 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:02:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@matsubue.apricot.com) Message-Id: <200105300802.f4U82Hn06027@matsubue.apricot.com> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: problems with the new fxp(4) driver.. From: scanner@apricot.com Reply-To: scanner@apricot.com X-URI: http://www.apricot.com/~scanner/ X-Face: 6K2.ZvQgQ.NDQLIx.1pW(xRu*">:}&PX-Ad_!!?wU7H4L"wF"0xEwYu=8Or0V+=5?-eO1XL 7-0Hom/|]B2C7Uznyol-NVnvEk:+sod^MyB4v4qVpPDemr;b@pZdRSXu.'Gm^t0?2l,j[&t.kbc[UW x6Lz^e$K$W Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 01:02:17 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I recently ran into a very annoying situation where I upgraded from a May 8th copy of 4.3-stable to a May 26th version of stable. The problem was that my ethernet adapter that is on my MB started flipping out. Depending on the amount of traffic (and it would not take much) the system would soon become unuseable and need a reboot. To the order of over 12 times in a 8 hour period. Basically you would start seeing messages like: fxp0: SCB timeout on the console. Eventually you would get: fxp0: device timeout The motherboard is both an i815EEAAL and an i815EEA2. On the May 8th 4.3-stable the device identifies as: fxp0: On the May 25th 4.3-stable it identifies as: May 29 06:14:46 kamidake /kernel: fxp0: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem \ 0xff8fe000-0xff8fefff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci1 /kernel: inphy0: on miibus0 People I know have things like the intel i810E mb have no problems. Theirs identifies as: fxp0: port 0xdf00-0xdf3f mem \ 0xff700000-0xff7fffff,0xff8fe000-0xff8fefff irq 10 at device \ 1.0 on pci1 inphy0: on miibus0 So it looks like support for the i82562ET vs. the i82555 is broken in some fashion under 4.3-stable. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations, besides "do not use those MB's". (And yes I have miibus defined.. otherwise I would never have gotten that "inphy0" line.) --Scanner (scanner@apricot.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 1: 1:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from support.euronet.nl (support.euronet.nl [194.134.32.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE85137B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from free@support.euronet.nl) Received: (from free@localhost) by support.euronet.nl (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4U81bK47831 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:01:37 +0200 From: Frederique Rijsdijk To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hangs with sysctl -a Message-ID: <20010530100136.G43545@support.euronet.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sa264@cam.ac.uk on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 01:52:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 01:52:11PM +0100, AMAKAWA Shuhei wrote: > Has anybody tried 'sysctl -a ' on a recent -STABLE? > My i386 machine hangs reproducibly. Yes, same here. Installed ftp://releng4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/4.3-20010526-STABLE last monday on a system with two IDE disks: ad0: 19092MB [38792/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad1: 2060MB [4186/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 More things went wrong on that system, for instance when I tried to install joe from the ports it failed with some compile errors. No details about this I'm afraid, as I decided to install 4.3-R after that. -- Frederique To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 2:13:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from athena.hq.herculeez.com (adsl-213-254-161-195.mistral-uk.net [213.254.161.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D994237B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@herculeez.com) Received: (qmail 10486 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 09:12:29 -0000 Received: from madoka.hq.herculeez.com (HELO herculeez.com) (192.168.0.23) by athena.hq.herculeez.com with SMTP; 30 May 2001 09:12:29 -0000 Message-ID: <3B14B9E6.4D5E4CF6@herculeez.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:14:14 +0100 From: Simon Loader Reply-To: simon@herculeez.com Organization: www.herculeez.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr, cs MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: > > * you schg a binary > * hacker breaks root > * hacker is unable to modify binary. Whoopie. Hacker decides to rm -rf > your data files instead. So they change sshd start up script, hack peoples paths so they run the hackers version of stuff. Modify the startup scripts to change security level ( this is possible isnt it???) and then change the file. if you schg one file you start having to do everything and then it becomes unmanageable. -- Simon Loader (side note on nis last time I was a nis admin (5 yrs ago?) when root on a one box I could su to another user (say an admin user) and then change there start up scripts. So I dont think NIS is that brilliant) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 2:36:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wit379119.student.utwente.nl (wit379119.student.utwente.nl [130.89.232.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1155637B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niek@wit379119.student.utwente.nl) Received: by wit379119.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 545D65D44; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:35:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:35:58 +0200 From: Niek Bergboer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smbfs: disconnected servers Message-ID: <20010530103558.A31220@wit379119.student.utwente.nl> Reply-To: niek@bergboer.net References: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net>; from dgl@visi.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:20:59PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Doug Lee wrote: > I just cvsuped to 4.3-STABLE (from 4.2-STABLE) and did make > buildworld, make buildkernel, make installkernel, and make > installworld. During the buildkernel, I realized I wanted to make > some changes to my kernel config file; so I did, then aborted and > started over the buildkernel. No errors. Now that some changes to smbfs have been MFC'ed, there still is an open issue concerning smbfs: I'm using FreeBSD (4.3-STABLE for that matter) on a large campus network of over 2000 computers that are personal systems of students themselves. If I use mount_smbfs to mount a share on these systems, this works perfectly. However, the problems begin when somebody whose share I mounted decides to switch off his computer: I (obviously) cannot read from the mountpoint anymore, but there also is _no way_ of forcefully unmounting the share anymore. One might say that this is logical since there is no way to communicate a decent "logoff" packet to the (now switched off) server. However, I'm left with a dead mountpoint that doesn't respond to anyting anymore and cannot be unmounted. How difficult (and desirable) would it be to implement either one of the following two options in smbfs: 1. The ability to reconnect to a server: suppose a server switches off, and switches on again the following day. 2. The ability to forcefully unmount the share on my local machine, to such an extent that if the server cannot be contacten within a specified amount of time, that the entry is bluntly deleted from the kernel's internal list of mounted filesystems (or something along those lines). Any ideas (and yes, it might have been better to put this on -hackers, but feel free to reply to -hackers). Niek -- Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -- Shakespeare To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 2:37:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE1D37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4U9alk92357 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:36:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:36:47 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: bad cookie Message-ID: <20010530113647.E91086@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, What should I do with the following kernel error messages: got bad cookie vp 0xd19d6bc0 bp 0xc61d72bc got bad cookie vp 0xd1480180 bp 0xc616fbec After grepping the source, I discovered that this was an NFS problem (it's not really obvious from the message, is it?). I have two machines involved, no more, with server: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Mon Apr 23 13:04:32 CEST 2001 handstarted with # /usr/sbin/portmap # /sbin/mountd -r # /sbin/nfsd -u -t -n 4 client: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed May 16 04:41:06 CEST 2001 handstarted with # /sbin/nfsiod -n 4 # sysctl -w vfs.nfs.access_cache_timeout=2 (both sequences taken from /etc/rc.network - no /etc/rc.d/nfs.sh start unfortunately :( ) I then mounted with: mount -t nfs -o nfsv3,tcp,intr,rdirplus,-r=32768,-w=32768 server:/path /mnt Both machines have a 3com 905 ethernetcard (xl0), are on the same 100mbit switch, and are running 100baseTX full duplex. The client is a faster machine then the server however (P3-933 vs. P2-400). Both machines are otherwise very lightly loaded. Should I loose some options? Should I disregard the message? I think I get this message because I'm running an application that accesses a lot of files in the same directory. Unfortunately, around the time when this message occurs, the application also stops running, with the job half done :( --Stijn -- SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 3:17:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF8937B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 03:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 15532T-000KPJ-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:17:17 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4UAHGY52846 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:17:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:17:16 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: best softupdates/wc combination for laptop Message-ID: <20010530111716.A52805@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What would be the best combination of softupdates and write caching for laptop use? jcm -- "I drank WHAT ?!" - Socrates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 3:22:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9649937B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 03:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4UAUC204281; Wed, 30 May 2001 03:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105301030.f4UAUC204281@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best softupdates/wc combination for laptop In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 May 2001 11:17:16 BST." <20010530111716.A52805@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 03:30:12 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > What would be the best combination of softupdates and write caching for > laptop use? Both on. The window of vulnerability for write caching is very small. Many of us remember running with async-mounted filesystems, which was much riskier... 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 4: 8:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.uclm.es (relay.uclm.es [161.67.124.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B38637B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 04:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jjgarcia@ind-cr.uclm.es) Received: by relay.uclm.es (Postfix, from userid 3348) id 10FC59888F; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:29:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from correo.uclm.es (unknown [161.67.40.12]) by relay.uclm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78468B9046 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:29:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mobile-ripoll.arrakis.es (43cjm80439.ind-cr.uclm.es [161.67.37.145] (may be forged)) by correo.uclm.es (8.9.3/UCLM.CReal) with ESMTP id SAA01261 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:29:01 +0200 Received: (from jjgarcia@localhost) by mobile-ripoll.arrakis.es (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4SGXmJ26325 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:33:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jjgarcia@ind-cr.uclm.es) X-Authentication-Warning: mobile-ripoll.arrakis.es: jjgarcia set sender to jjgarcia@ind-cr.uclm.es using -f X-From-Line: nobody Wed May 23 18:02:57 2001 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMP lockups with 4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Wed_May_23_18:02:52_2001-1" From: Juan Jose Garcia Ripoll Date: 23 May 2001 18:02:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87k838njdf.fsf@mobile-ripoll.arrakis.es> User-Agent: T-gnus/6.14.6 (based on Gnus v5.8.8) (revision 04) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) Lines: 363 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Multipart_Wed_May_23_18:02:52_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have upgraded two machines from 4.2 to 4.3 using cvsup. The first one is the laptop I am writing on, and it works ok; the second one is a dual PIII/700 with a MS motherbard. It is this second machine the one which experiences lockups with a 4.3 SMP kernel as cvsuped last week. Booting with a single processor 4.2 kernel solves the problem. The machine is almost bare bones, with apache and qpopper, and since everything works with 4.2 I suspect the problem is related to a change in the SMP kernel. As a side note, the same machine worked ok with Debian using a SMP linux kernel. I just replaced it with FreeBSD because I find the latter easier to maintain. The output of dmesg with the 4.2 is below, together with one of the 4.3 kernels I have tried. What do you think I should do now? TIA Juanjo --Multipart_Wed_May_23_18:02:52_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline; filename="DMESG.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE #0: Mon Nov 20 13:02:55 GMT 2000 jkh@bento.FreeBSD.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (735.00-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x686 Stepping =3D 6 Features=3D0x387fbff real memory =3D 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory =3D 126328832 (123368K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.old" at 0xc0436000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on = pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 12 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x9000-0x900f at device 7.1 on = pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x9400-0x941f irq 9 at device 7.2 o= n pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x9800-0x981f irq 9 at device 7.3 o= n pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip2: port 0xa400-0xa403,0xa000-0xa003,0x9c00-0x9c= ff irq 11 at device 7.5 on pci0 atapci1: port 0xbc00-0xbc3f,0xb800-0xb803,0xb40= 0-0xb407,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xac07 mem 0xdf100000-0xdf11ffff irq 11 at de= vice 12.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xac00 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xb400 on atapci1 fxp0: port 0xc000-0xc03f mem 0xdf000000-0= xdf0fffff,0xdf120000-0xdf120fff irq 10 at device 18.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:c8:68:07 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ad0: 6204MB [13446/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ata1-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable ad2: 8223MB [16708/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33 afd0: 239MB [239/64/32] at ata0-slave using PIO3 acd0: CD-RW <10X8X32> at ata1-slave using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted --Multipart_Wed_May_23_18:02:52_2001-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="KERNEL.CFG" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.25 2001/05/13 03:50:01 jlem= on Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC maxusers 32 #makeoptions DEBUG=3D-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support #options MFS #Memory Filesystem #options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=3D15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor #options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=3D0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when=20 # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT li= nes #options PCVT_SCANSET=3D2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ex device ep device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # Xircom Ethernet device xe # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC. device awi # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those parameters here. device an # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) #pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! #pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface #device usb # USB Bus (required) #device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse #device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet --Multipart_Wed_May_23_18:02:52_2001-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 5: 5:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A72837B440; Wed, 30 May 2001 05:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stolz@I2.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (relay2.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.3.1]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3-2) with ESMTP id f4UC5bp18677; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:37 +0200 (MEST) Received: from hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (hyperion.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.112.212]) by r220-1.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE (8.10.1/8.11.3/3) with ESMTP id f4UC5aH18666; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:36 +0200 (MEST) Received: from agamemnon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (agamemnon.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.194.74]) by hyperion.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/2) with ESMTP id OAA05155; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:00:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from stolz@localhost) by agamemnon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1-gb-2) id OAA04763; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:34 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: niek@bergboer.net, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smbfs: disconnected servers Message-ID: <20010530140534.A4752@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Reply-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010528142059.A703@kirk.sector14.net> <20010530103558.A31220@wit379119.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010530103558.A31220@wit379119.student.utwente.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In local.freebsd-stable, you wrote: >However, the problems begin when somebody whose share I mounted >decides to switch off his computer: I (obviously) cannot read from the >mountpoint anymore, but there also is _no way_ of forcefully >unmounting the share anymore. Maybe smbfs should be ported to userland (portal) somehow? I'm not saying im volunteering, though ;) But I'd like to know if there are any limitations which might prevent this from working... I think I ran into the same troubles with sharity-light, because of the usual lock-ups when NFS become unavailable. -- Abstrakte Syntaxträume. Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de * PGP + S/MIME To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 5:51:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2EB37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 05:51:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1555RH-0006ak-00 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:51:03 +0100 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fxp0 problem - does it affect xl0 ? Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:51:03 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I;ve been following the fxp0 thread with interest as I have just upgraded all the machines at home to use these cards (and not yet updated them). Was it my magination, however, or did someone earlier today say that this also affected the xl0 driver - if so then what are the symptoms and is there any way of ttelling whether updating will work properly or not ? I have a remote machine that needs updating, and I am rather concerned about this as physical access to the box is difficult at the best of times. cheers, -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 6:23:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silence.sparrows.ici (chello212186015038.11.univie.teleweb.at [212.186.15.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA5D37B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from content@openprojects.net) Received: from there (Q.sparrow.ici [192.168.0.99]) by silence.sparrows.ici (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id f4UDMlw03356 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:22:52 +0200 Message-Id: <200105301322.f4UDMlw03356@silence.sparrows.ici> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:22:37 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Darian Lanx Subject: Possible Install bug for the following hardware in FreeBSD Stable (4.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello list. After debugging this with a few friends who are by far more experience di= n=20 freebsd than I am, I have been asked to report the following strange=20 behaviour to this list He asked me to be specific, so I am going to provide a much information a= s I=20 can. The hardware used is as follows: ASUS CUSL Motherboard 2 Hard drives=20 On the primary Master a Maxtor 53073U6 30736 MB ioctl (I am in linux) reports the following geometry for it: geometry =3D 3736/255/63, sectors =3D 60030432, start =3D 0 =20 The second hard drive on the secondary Master channel is a IBM DTLA-30703= 0=20 also 30736 MB. ioctl reports the following geometry for this drive: geometry =3D 3737/255/63, sectors =3D 60036480, start =3D 0 =20 I have downloaded the 4.3 boot floppies from ftp.at.freebsd.org and then=20 booted my system. After entering the installer friend told me to press scroll lock and scr= oll=20 up to see the actual output of the Kernel. The output for the drives reads as follows: ad0 2014 MB [4092/16/63] at at-0-master UDMA66 ad2 29314 MB [5956/16/63 at at-1-master UDMA100 As you can see the first drive is not recognized at all, the second drive= is=20 almost missing a gigabyte (yes I know the drive looses space due to=20 formatting but still some space is missing) The first drive is recognized correctly by the bios it operates in UDMA m= ode=20 4 (66) The second drive is also recognized correctly by the bios it operates in = UDMA=20 mode 5 (100). The BIOS for this motherboard is up to date, I checked with the vendor. I= =20 have ran several test on the drives and their logic, both drives are 100%= =20 operational. For both drives SMART monitoring is enabled.=20 Thank you very much, since I am not subscribed to this list a CC to my=20 private mail would be very nice, yet I will make sure to check via the we= b. Thank you and I hope this helps, FreeBSD looks interesting to me and I re= ally=20 would like using it along with my linux setup. - -d --=20 si vis pacem, para bellum - ---- 'Doubt thou the stars are fire; Doubt that the sun doth move; Doubt truth to be a liar; But never doubt I love. - - Hamelt, Shakespear -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQNmBAEUAwAGBQI7FPQiAAoJENYKnjdA0qXChc8NIK7hwJQ843iqUm8s7wEcJObC ihUPw1KiaTZKe0jH3FTkKomzNoiyphiHXo6KUg1/yMYLheUuI66uBCXtdX7jiya4 CXbcVrT4/HZKvXncp6vQ+K27Vf7WG1Z7nF3pTVQxjgqqEiFNmXy2Nw+Rfartydah VWNxlr+E+/LGRhwQdRnT/0uhxYF2uXdNTsqnRhFJ8Gdh0n9Kpa7GazUtWQz7P94A Qt/xAFs5G3egK7mXH5neNx7MOwW+4RB8L4qe+f5rcPzPVKg6c1RKU8hYDcRXoUeH LpQ1wH5YJnkZowrvdEkmNFfXYzpSnJd1mjN/6qgsQRKLe09ckXsUCJ7UUGXyzRLO klbL25igOn105rXs0shLZTHluhitfCFHcWM4Y8HRTyGX2FvbV7yIJ8uUkO7emHy9 OdbF6Ic3TfN2cyguro3umFD7931bclCb3XA22vUfEJS3QkXn9N1l9Ih/Pn+VQCLj jqfj9J+uxNnrUOm1BnSzA/lPfeXp53YoTZTQaGWuIVMceFufNNRgnE/BSeFgyS9m yAr7hWWqE5fDZ1NTdN3RVK0+Ng0dHxMTP8uDqLUOcAj5Vs9sJfd3QjmeaZy7GlWX bBDMHuu1MUqwmUNrq5YX98V7WogPJXqWL1Jm1CGsA1lw+xmo3hFdL3jWkik90Vfi u+z30F03GRFXx+8YumBa+yQ6HuDMAm9DPkwq4M5fxT9+GiXiFZkS1dPpogzO3Fzn CN4Q6Xgv1F9HaFiJ9e1AcEKzq5scOvrO3BsLgFvlFM0TG7vj7wu1acjkxYA4Kb+i 8DN3dErd23dR6xrCPMLD1NWAmICQoIzvsZH3afgT1toyytJBXISkP67FO1N3UvMT iqBE9boo40xZm2p0FOXdiOZlUeuYJd6g2yl5CKjQAuietDQhANFckHnpW/5caPxc uXQjX9Wt0SRZe27CIuEU/S8dB1tXTGnSePENlYgTdpbI6HiEgqY08H0opFGi50xo ZfmeAwCNQBe5JNhIciL/WQ0dSDU+AU2z43qv0B4tO/dCYmFbwSR9PZBMHsoihF8U D7SJq7pVCrskQ3VLS0pcwMK7R9U0SeEn0FnjEIVrB5PcvYfzWlACPJWxspmVfZG9 ieSOejrRjs2b =3DWMiv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 6:43:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fortress.i3s.net (fortress.bbnow.net [24.219.9.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7E737B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vgrey@openheart.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unverified [24.219.125.116]) by fortress.i3s.net (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.7) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:43:40 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:43:44 -0700 Subject: make buildworld error From: Victor Grey To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSUP'd sources on 5/30 early morning from cvsup14.FreeBSD.org (*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 src-all) Running 4.2-STABLE currently. Got the following error when I tried to make buildworld: Manifying .cpan::build::Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2215::lib::DBD::mSQL::Install.3 /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/pod2man: Invalid man page - no documentation in ./.cpan/build/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2215/lib/DBD/mSQL/Install.pm *** Error code 255 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. *** Error code 1 Any thoughts for a relative newbie on what to do to fix this? Thanks, Victor Grey vg@customdynamic.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7: 5:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8F637B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f4UE5Kn30522; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200105301405.f4UE5Kn30522@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vgrey@openheart.com Subject: Re: make buildworld error In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 06:43:44 -0700 >From: Victor Grey >CVSUP'd sources on 5/30 early morning from cvsup14.FreeBSD.org >(*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4 >src-all) Likewise: CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue May 29 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Tue May 29 03:53:06 PDT 2001 CVSup begin from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Wed May 30 03:47:01 PDT 2001 CVSup ended from cvsup14.freebsd.org at Wed May 30 03:52:52 PDT 2001 >Running 4.2-STABLE currently. In my case, I've been tracking 4-STABLE daily since early March. >Got the following error when I tried to make buildworld: >Manifying .cpan::build::Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2215::lib::DBD::mSQL::Install.3 >/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library/pod2man: Invalid man page - no >documentation in >./.cpan/build/Msql-Mysql-modules-1.2215/lib/DBD/mSQL/Install.pm >*** Error code 255 >Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/library. >*** Error code 1 I did not see this at all. Indeed, I'm now running: FreeBSD dhcp-133.catwhisker.org 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #32: Wed May 30 06:32:29 PDT 2001 root@dhcp-133.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 >Any thoughts for a relative newbie on what to do to fix this? It may be that the "To update from 3.x to 4.x stable" mechansim (described in /usr/src/UPDATING) would work, though I would think that the failure you note is not intended. You might want to check the -stable archives to see if anyone else has reported something similar -- I don't recall any such reports, but my memory gets a bit hazy from time to time. Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:10: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from over.ru (runaway.2sun.ru [212.5.91.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFB5D37B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@over.ru) Received: (qmail 24678 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 2001 14:08:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:08:50 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: USB CF readers? Message-ID: <20010530180850.J23863@runaway.2sun.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I'm looking to purchase CF reader, to ease my life with TRG Pro. I wonder if any of them works with FreeBSD... does anyone have real experience? Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw.nectar.com (gw.nectar.com [208.42.49.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD86E37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@nectar.com) Received: by gw.nectar.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CD3D518C98; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:17:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:17:34 -0500 From: "Jacques A. Vidrine" To: Alex Povolotsky Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB CF readers? Message-ID: <20010530091734.B53974@spawn.nectar.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jacques A. Vidrine" , Alex Povolotsky , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010530180850.J23863@runaway.2sun.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530180850.J23863@runaway.2sun.ru>; from tarkhil@over.ru on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:08:50PM +0400 X-Url: http://www.nectar.com/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:08:50PM +0400, Alex Povolotsky wrote: > Hello! > > I'm looking to purchase CF reader, to ease my life with TRG Pro. > > I wonder if any of them works with FreeBSD... does anyone have real > experience? I have a SanDisk ImageMate that I'm very happy with: umass0: SanDisk Corporation ImageMate CompactFlash USB, rev 1.10/0.09, addr 2 umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) da2 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da2: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 650KB/s transfers da2: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Note that I seem to recall that there are some slightly different models of this device, and that some models do not support the umass interface. Mine says this on the underside: `ImageMate: SanDisk Part No.SDDR-31'. Cheers, -- Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:18:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2140737B440 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F02FBAAB for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:18:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Subject: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:15:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to me. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flounder.jimking.net (flounder.jimking.net [209.205.176.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC89437B43E for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:22:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.76.82]) (authenticated) by flounder.jimking.net (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4UEMCO69421 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Wed, 30 May 2001 09:22:13 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <002201c0e913$ebb25fc0$524c8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Alex Povolotsky" , References: <20010530180850.J23863@runaway.2sun.ru> Subject: Re: USB CF readers? Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:22:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Alex Povolotsky" wrote: > I'm looking to purchase CF reader, to ease my life with TRG Pro. > > I wonder if any of them works with FreeBSD... does anyone have real > experience? One of the models sold by Sandisk works great. I don't have mine close by to look at, but I think the model number is SDDR-31. I think I paid $35 for mine. A couple caveats: - Sandisk sells another model under the same name (but a different model number) that doesn't work with FreeBSD. - At one time trying to read IBM Microdrives in the Sandisk SDDR-31 reader under FreeBSD would result in the Microdrive getting fried; I don't know if that problem has been corrected. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:28:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4F937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8103ABAAD; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:28:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <007f01c0e914$5ef29db0$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Karol Makowski" Cc: References: <20010530162334.A9838@sigma.buy.pl> Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:25:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I agree entirely. It is too bad it has come to this though. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karol Makowski" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > On Wed, 2001-05-30 at 09:15:50, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > Thomas> This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > Yup it is, but it has to be pulled out. > > -- > Karol Makowski, Network Administrator > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:34:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sigma.buy.pl (sigma.buy.pl [213.77.43.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2AE37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:34:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spaceman@sigma.buy.pl) Received: by sigma.buy.pl (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8F61372044; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:23:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:23:34 +0200 From: Karol Makowski To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530162334.A9838@sigma.buy.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Echelon: Bombing, President, Terrorism, Hacking Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2001-05-30 at 09:15:50, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Thomas> This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. Yup it is, but it has to be pulled out. -- Karol Makowski, Network Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:35:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from psychotic.aberrant.org (psychotic.aberrant.org [64.81.134.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C18CE37B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:35:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org) Received: by psychotic.aberrant.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A7C67250B; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:35:34 -0400 From: Seth To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530103534.A15761@psychotic.aberrant.org> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com>; from veldy@veldy.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please see Darren's clarification at http://false.net/ipfilter/2001_05/0458.html. It appears that the new license applies to test (i.e., non-general) releases. S. On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > me. > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:37:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A63737B43E for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:37:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEB22E461; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4UEbD100861; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.1433.517037.245078@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:13 -0400 To: Matt Dillon Cc: Seth , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-Reply-To: <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "MD" == Matt Dillon writes: MD> Putting on my security hat... no. All you are doing is forcing the MD> hacker to use some more obscure and possibly less detectable way to MD> compromise the machine. So, in fact, you could be making the problem MD> *worse*. I guess in general, that may be correct. But wouldn't you want some reassurance that your only "secure" connection to the machine is not tamered with? That is, if your machine is compromised, and the only way you can connect to it is via a trojaned service, then you're really hosed. I think ssh should be protected from this type of attack. In any case, what about my other question? If I "schg" the ssh related executables and libs, will installworld croak or does it know to noschg all files first? I can't see that it does it even for the binaries that are schg in the system already (like rsh). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:39:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snark.ptc.spbu.ru (snark.ptc.spbu.ru [195.19.225.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC9837B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:39:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uwe@snark.ptc.spbu.ru) Received: (from uwe@localhost) by snark.ptc.spbu.ru (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id SAA03646 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:39:40 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:39:40 +0400 From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.3i In-Reply-To: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com>; from "Thomas T. Veldhouse" on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > reason to me. Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any | issues they had. SY, Uwe -- uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:45:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35E437B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id QAA16429; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:53:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3B15080A.A34A43ED@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:47:38 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thomas T. Veldhouse" schrieb: > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > me. > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. Since Darren Reed changed the Licens for non-release bugfix test versions only, and openly states the license for release versions _will_not_change_, I would prefer to have IPF in the tree, even though I use ipfw instead. Just my EUR.02 -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:47:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA1337B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:47:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 380B6BAAB; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:47:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:44:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source code. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > > reason to me. > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > | issues they had. > > SY, Uwe > -- > uwe@ptc.spbu.ru | Zu Grunde kommen > http://www.ptc.spbu.ru/~uwe/ | Ist zu Grunde gehen > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 7:48:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E836B37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A484D10F40F; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:48:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <04a401c0e917$a968a120$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:49:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Someone on irc mentioned that something like ipf that cannot be modified should go into the ports. Not my personal belief, but I thought I would relay it anyhow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" ; Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change > the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter > licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source > code. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 8:58:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF8737B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4UFvxh40288; Wed, 30 May 2001 08:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 08:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200105301557.f4UFvxh40288@earth.backplane.com> To: Vivek Khera Cc: Seth , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> <15125.1433.517037.245078@onceler.kciLink.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I guess in general, that may be correct. But wouldn't you want some :reassurance that your only "secure" connection to the machine is not :tamered with? That is, if your machine is compromised, and the only :way you can connect to it is via a trojaned service, then you're :really hosed. I think ssh should be protected from this type of :attack. Well, lets see... what if someone modified /etc/ssh/config ? Or what if someone added a command= directive to your public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ? Or what if someone modified pam (which ssh uses) ? Or what if someone changed the ldconfig path? etc etc etc. So the answer is no. :In any case, what about my other question? If I "schg" the ssh :related executables and libs, will installworld croak or does it know :to noschg all files first? I can't see that it does it even for the :binaries that are schg in the system already (like rsh). I've no idea on that one. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 9: 2:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BC137B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id SAA16996; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:09:52 +0200 Message-ID: <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:04:04 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thomas T. Veldhouse" schrieb: > > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change > the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter > licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source > code. I disagree. IPF is part of the ports. Since we accept other beasts (even without source code access like netscape 4.x) to lurk in there. Thus, having ipf in FreeBSD ports does in no way conflict with the license of the base system. Just my EUR.02 -Christoph Sold > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > > > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > > > reason to me. > > > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > > > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > > > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > > | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > > | issues they had. > > > > SY, Uwe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 9:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cosa.uk-legal.net (cosa.uk-legal.net [212.240.216.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C40937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net) Received: by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7FE9311289; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:20:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cosa.uk-legal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737981A; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:20:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:20:51 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Tulloch To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <04a401c0e917$a968a120$931576d8@inethouston.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you take a look at the cvs commit logs e.g. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fil.h you'll notice its Darren himself who does virtually all the commits on the ipf code in the FreeBSD tree, I'm going to assume he gave himself permisson :) Andrew On Wed, 30 May 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > Someone on irc mentioned that something like ipf that cannot be modified > should go into the ports. Not my personal belief, but I thought I would > relay it anyhow. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" > To: "Valeriy E. Ushakov" ; > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > > > > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can > change > > the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter > > licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source > > code. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 9:21:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8492A37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:21:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-stable@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Received: from madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us [24.124.26.25]) by madeline.boneyard.lawrence.ks.us (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UGL6O34654 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:21:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bsd-stable@boneyard.lawrence.ks.us) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:21:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 30 May 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:44:15 -0500 > From: Thomas T. Veldhouse > To: Valeriy E. Ushakov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change > the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter > licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source > code. > I believe the core team's policy on any contributed software (/usr/src/contrib) is that it can be updated by or directly from the vendor's source tree, but it will not be modified by the freebsd team directly. Your fear regarding this matter is unfounded. for example... http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=12801 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23912 Stephen Spencer | | "Mutton yesterday, mutton today, and blimey, | if it don't look like mutton again tomarrer" | -Bert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 9:38:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE1C37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D75510F40F; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:38:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <057c01c0e926$ef4242a0$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Andrew Tulloch" Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , References: Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:38:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That's not the question here, the problem is with the license. That we cannot add features and do whatever to his code as we can with all the other programs on the source tree. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Tulloch" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" ; "Valeriy E. Ushakov" ; Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > > If you take a look at the cvs commit logs e.g. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fil.h > > you'll notice its Darren himself who does virtually all the commits on the > ipf code in the FreeBSD tree, I'm going to assume he gave himself > permisson :) > > Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:21:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139F237B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010530172131.UTJC28543.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu> for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:21:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3B152C1A.B04C5F35@math.missouri.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:21:30 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Tulloch wrote: > > If you take a look at the cvs commit logs e.g. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fil.h > > you'll notice its Darren himself who does virtually all the commits on the > ipf code in the FreeBSD tree, I'm going to assume he gave himself > permisson :) > > Andrew > I know it is a gruesome question, but what would happen if Darren was seriously disabled or killed in an accident or something? Actually, generally, what happens to software in the contrib directory if the vendor somehow becomes unable or unwilling to service it any longer? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castle.dreaming.org (castle.dreaming.org [216.221.214.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5091737B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mit@dreaming.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by castle.dreaming.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4UHTh713745; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:29:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mit@dreaming.org) Received: from shadow ([216.129.192.238]) by castle.dreaming.org (8.11.3/8.11.3av) with SMTP id f4UHTej13730; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:29:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mit@dreaming.org) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: "echelon" , "Stable FreeBSD" Subject: RE: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:29:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i can't believe that this hasn't been fixed yet. anyway, to fix in the short term: cd /usr/ports rm -rf www/jakarta-tomcat make update :-----Original Message----- :From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG :[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of echelon :Sent: May 27, 2001 03:07 AM :To: Stable FreeBSD :Subject: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem : : : :Hi, : :When I cvsup my port via cvsup2.FreeBSD.org, I got this error msg. : : :Updating collection ports-www/cvs : Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-aa : Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/patch-ab : Checkout ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files/tomcat.sh : Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files :Updater failed: Cannot delete :"/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory not empty : :FYI. Thanks. : :-echelon : :__________________________________________________ :Do You Yahoo!? :Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices :http://auctions.yahoo.com/ : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:34: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B4337B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:33:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA75766; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:33:56 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > me. > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. What's sad is that people who don't understand the issues involved are jumping on bandwagons that they shouldn't. Darren and the FreeBSD core team are already in the process of clarifying that FreeBSD's use of IPfilter is "with permission," and therefore falls within the parameters of the license. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:39:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6308037B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:39:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C03F0BAAD for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:38:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <014001c0e92f$00559f80$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:36:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So, I can go form my own project called VeldyBSD and I can modify the IPFilter code all that I want based on, let us say, FreeBSD 4.3? That is the basic premise of the BSD license (and by inference the *BSD OS) principal, if not in practice. This even applies to the GPL. Does it apply to the license granted with IPFilter? Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Barton" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > > me. > > > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > What's sad is that people who don't understand the issues involved are > jumping on bandwagons that they shouldn't. Darren and the FreeBSD core team > are already in the process of clarifying that FreeBSD's use of IPfilter is > "with permission," and therefore falls within the parameters of the > license. > > Doug > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:43:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49C237B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4UHZRI98361; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:35:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:35:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Matt Dillon Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010530183526.A94961@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:34:20PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:34:20PM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > :Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is= =20 > :logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad= =20 > :idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. >=20 > I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: >=20 > * you schg a binary > * hacker breaks root > * hacker is unable to modify binary. Whoopie. Hacker decides to rm = -rf > your data files instead. >=20 > Problem: Hacker was still able to break root. Setting schg on the > file didn't save you from that. You missed a bit. "Cracker is unable to modify binary. A trojan ssh is not installed, meaning that your passwords are not quietly stolen. In a fit of=20 frustration, cracker runs rm -rf. This is quickly detected, you restore from backups, no other accounts are compromised." N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjsVLoIACgkQk6gHZCw343W4jQCfSg0CnKcwgC02ZtodpY7kll2V ISgAn3hc5h3ydN9eKsAKCxd9XdbWFtOJ =qONB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 10:59:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F1837B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F1010F40F; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:59:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <05f301c0e932$419208a0$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , References: <014001c0e92f$00559f80$3028680a@tgt.com> Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:59:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, that is the entire problem, the license for IPFilter does not allow modifications to it > So, I can go form my own project called VeldyBSD and I can modify the > IPFilter code all that I want based on, let us say, FreeBSD 4.3? That is > the basic premise of the BSD license (and by inference the *BSD OS) > principal, if not in practice. This even applies to the GPL. Does it apply > to the license granted with IPFilter? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:10:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13237B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17854; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19761; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.14210.469974.316853@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:10 -0600 (MDT) To: Doug Barton Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > > me. > > > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > What's sad is that people who don't understand the issues involved are > jumping on bandwagons that they shouldn't. Darren and the FreeBSD core team > are already in the process of clarifying that FreeBSD's use of IPfilter is > "with permission," and therefore falls within the parameters of the > license. I think everyone understand that, but what if another entity (not FreeBSD) takes the FreeBSD code and modifies it for use in an embedded product. Are they allowed to modify the ipf source code for use inside of their product, like they are capable of doing with the rest of the source tree. This is the single-biggest difference between Linux and *BSD from a non-technical point of view, and the reason that I help found the FreeBSD project and didn't go they way of Linux/GNU/GPL. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDAC37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACAB5671A4; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:20:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Nate Williams Cc: Doug Barton , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530112059.B68285@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> <15125.14210.469974.316853@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15125.14210.469974.316853@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:10:10PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:10:10PM -0600, Nate Williams wrote: > > What's sad is that people who don't understand the issues involved are > > jumping on bandwagons that they shouldn't. Darren and the FreeBSD core = team > > are already in the process of clarifying that FreeBSD's use of IPfilter= is > > "with permission," and therefore falls within the parameters of the > > license.=20 >=20 > I think everyone understand that, but what if another entity (not > FreeBSD) takes the FreeBSD code and modifies it for use in an > embedded product. Are they allowed to modify the ipf source code > for use inside of their product, like they are capable of doing with > the rest of the source tree. This is the single-biggest difference > between Linux and *BSD from a non-technical point of view, and the > reason that I help found the FreeBSD project and didn't go they way > of Linux/GNU/GPL. This question is well-understood by everyone involved, and is one of the points being clarified. Kris --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FToKWry0BWjoQKURAiFOAJ43uS/IIB2a2zBaoxno2a9hu3+JhACgjzh1 SCc1xflLbEo9YIf2i6dhk8c= =6wK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:23:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1356837B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:23:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1EF8671A4; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:23:50 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530112350.C68285@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com>; from veldy@veldy.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50AM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason = to > me. >=20 > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D01/05/28/1225224&mode=3Dnested >=20 > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. It's being addressed by core; please, everyone, just back off and stop fanning the flames -- emotional discussion by people who don't really understand both sides of the issue is what has caused this to blow up as much as it has so far, and that helps nobody. Kris --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FTq2Wry0BWjoQKURApvOAJ995+ey+5IDNlBFZFwidVonK743vQCfTInD dmBwRoIHmTc1GX+IUdCv5MU= =CMSU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:28:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B3F37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 95085671A4; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:28:55 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Vivek Khera Cc: Matt Dillon , Seth , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010530112855.D68285@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> <15125.1433.517037.245078@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15125.1433.517037.245078@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kcilink.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:13AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:13AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > In any case, what about my other question? If I "schg" the ssh > related executables and libs, will installworld croak or does it know > to noschg all files first? It will probably croak. > I can't see that it does it even for the > binaries that are schg in the system already (like rsh). install -f? Kris --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FTvnWry0BWjoQKURArjbAKDEv74oCEe7vOqib+lqQs+nC+BOQQCgr1zS pjfZ8MrRsc9bQkTEpHCjtgQ= =Ee1g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:29:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB91637B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7A7C2671A4; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:42 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: echelon , Stable FreeBSD Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem Message-ID: <20010530112942.E68285@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010527070640.88614.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bajzpZikUji1w+G9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mit@dreaming.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:29:53PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bajzpZikUji1w+G9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:29:53PM -0400, Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > i can't believe that this hasn't been fixed yet. It has :-) Kris --bajzpZikUji1w+G9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FTwWWry0BWjoQKURAqkNAJ9otcTUqmqP1CMjxcHeDLyyX5ss8QCeOWgR e5uLjWn4R4WkiIBYETLcfE4= =jrs7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bajzpZikUji1w+G9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:37:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tgd.net (rand.tgd.net [64.81.67.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F6D37B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:37:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@mailhost.tgd.net) Received: (qmail 79464 invoked by uid 1001); 30 May 2001 18:37:14 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:37:14 -0700 From: ipf=good_product-license_needs_enema@tgd.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530113714.E76217@rand.tgd.net> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com>; from "veldy@veldy.net" on Wed, May 30, 2001 at = 09:44:15AM Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I regularly use FreeBSD as the base for products/projects and am a little erk'ed that ipf resides in the base system with a very restrictive license that prevents me from using it. A large number of clients that I have worked with in the past require the ability to resell (or own 100%) binary versions of whatever solution I've created (who-hoo government!). Cleaning out ipf from the source tree isn't tough, but it's time consuming and ticks me off. Base BSD should have the BSD license, yes? With that in mind, I'm 200% in favor of moving it to the ports tree, kernel source hooks and all. Cleaning out ipf from the source tree last time wasn't tough, but not my idea of a picnic. > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can > change the source at their will and distribute it -- according to > the IPFilter licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD > system level source code. > > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > > > reason to me. > > > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > > > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > > > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > > | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > > | issues they had. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:39:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kamidake.apricot.com (kamidake.apricot.com [64.32.145.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FC937B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@kamidake.apricot.com) Received: from matsubue.apricot.com (root@matsubue.apricot.com [64.32.145.207]) by kamidake.apricot.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4UIddS19167 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@kamidake.apricot.com) Received: from matsubue.apricot.com (scanner@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by matsubue.apricot.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UIein36800 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:40:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scanner@matsubue.apricot.com) Message-Id: <200105301840.f4UIein36800@matsubue.apricot.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: fxp0 problem - does it affect xl0 ? From: scanner@apricot.com Reply-To: scanner@apricot.com X-URI: http://www.apricot.com/~scanner/ X-Face: 6K2.ZvQgQ.NDQLIx.1pW(xRu*">:}&PX-Ad_!!?wU7H4L"wF"0xEwYu=8Or0V+=5?-eO1XL 7-0Hom/|]B2C7Uznyol-NVnvEk:+sod^MyB4v4qVpPDemr;b@pZdRSXu.'Gm^t0?2l,j[&t.kbc[UW x6Lz^e$K$W Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:40:44 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG pcf> I;ve been following the fxp0 thread with interest as I have pcf> just upgraded all the machines at home to use these cards pcf> (and not yet updated them). Was it my magination, however, pcf> or did someone earlier today say that this also affected the pcf> xl0 driver - if so then what are the symptoms and is there pcf> any way of ttelling whether updating will work properly or pcf> not ? I have a remote machine that needs updating, and I am pcf> rather concerned about this as physical access to the box is pcf> difficult at the best of times. In my case I switched to a MB with an xl0 on it, and that actually works. So it seems that fxp under the new driver (some fxp's, not all) are broken for various values of broken while the xl0 continues to work just fine. I am continuing to test. --Scanner (scanner@apricot.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11502.mail.yahoo.com (web11502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E38437B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bayers@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010530184536.75156.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.52.128] by web11502.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:45:36 PDT Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Bayers Subject: Thanks! To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks All! You don't know how helpful you are! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:49:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.orem.verio.net (gatekeeper.orem.verio.net [192.41.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760D737B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aaronm@orem.verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.orem.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDE63BF10F for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:49:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (aaronm@localhost) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UInP375657; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:49:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from aaronm@mx.dmz.orem.verio.net) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:49:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Mildenstein To: Jim Bayers Cc: Subject: Re: Thanks! In-Reply-To: <20010530184536.75156.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In order to prevent flames, please send your thanks to the freebsd-thanks@FreeBSD.ORG list. :) Aaron Mildenstein __ 9 little greeblys sitting on a plate... On Wed, 30 May 2001, Jim Bayers wrote: > Thanks All! > > You don't know how helpful you are! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 12:14:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1592137B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 40343 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 2001 19:14:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:14:44 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Seth Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010530211444.A40244@mail.webmonster.de> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org>; from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 06:32:39PM -0400 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seth(seth@psychotic.aberrant.org)@2001.05.29 18:32:39 +0000: > Can we agree that it (that is, securelevel > 0 and schg on selected binar= ies) > raises the bar a bit higher? If so, it seems to me that it might be worth > doing (though most appropriately on a user-by-user basis). there are some real high-impact tweaks to be a little bit safer from rootkits. one of them is mounting /tmp noexec. drawback: you got to remount it exec for make installworld. have fun, /k --=20 > die rechtschreibreform macht spas! KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FUakM0BPTilkv0YRArkiAJ9EGKQrJ6DscL9tFDmEmK+XHEwZgQCgvVjD lebLVSQ8gQxKYPaPNemcWAI= =wTfs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q68bSM7Ycu6FN28Q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 12:16:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD8C37B42C; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:16:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4UJGKx116300; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:16:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010530183526.A94961@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200105292336.f4TNaRT01704@mass.dis.org> <200105292334.f4TNYKg31968@earth.backplane.com> <20010530183526.A94961@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:16:17 -0400 To: Nik Clayton , Matt Dillon From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 6:35 PM +0100 5/30/01, Nik Clayton wrote: >You missed a bit. > > "Cracker is unable to modify binary. A trojan ssh is not > installed, ... so the hacker instead installs something which will install that trojan via some other means, at some other time. > meaning that your passwords are not quietly stolen. In > a fit of frustration, cracker runs rm -rf. If all freebsd systems came with noschg, then the root-kits will quickly be upgraded to deal with that improvement. It would take a hacker with a pretty short attention span to completely give up on hacking a machine due to one little binary being unmodifiable. Yes, that will save you for an extra week or two, until a hacker with a longer attention span gets on some such system, and writes an improved root kit for the kiddies who have short attention spans. While I'm sure this debate can and will continue, I tend to agree with the position of Matt Dillon and others. If the default FreeBSD install turns on noschg for ssh, such that ALL freebsd installations will have it on, then the net improvement to security will be zero. Zero. Not "a very small improvement", but absolute zero. If some freebsd administrators want to turn it on for the few machines they run, then it probably will be a slight security improvement for those few, but only because it will be a rare event for the average hacker to run into. Just MO. And no, I have not missed the points you are trying to make. I just live in an environment with inquisitive hackers who can have very long attention spans, particularly when you don't want them to. I am pretty confident that this kind of change wouldn't slow them down for long -- assuming they managed to break root in the first place. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 12:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8409037B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:31:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 40986 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 2001 19:31:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:31:45 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Sven Huster Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010530213145.B40244@mail.webmonster.de> References: <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l76fUT7nc3MelDdI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sven.huster@mailsurf.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:30:34AM +0200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sven Huster(sven.huster@mailsurf.com)@2001.05.30 01:30:34 +0000: > the arguments here are a little bit funny. > give the hacker the possibility otherwise he would do much > more evil things. uhhh... >=20 > i thought every single step to make a machine=20 > secure should be taken. the honeypot/-trap method is a widely known one, so you set up a box that looks like in-production for the people to crack and have some serious countermeasures in place on that box. so you can manage the risk of you server farm a little better. bottom line: - you do not want someone to steal data - you do not want to disclose sensible secrets such as passwords - there are a lot of rootkits out there - none of them work for 99% of the script kiddies if you configure 2 or three things the rootkit "installer" script doesn't like - if an attacker gets frustrated he tries to sabotage you whilst you are not able to directly intervene or prevent it - NIS is NOT a secure solution for storing secrets off the machine, IMVHO. onetime methods such as s/key worked out to be better, at least for me and my users ;-) NIS is not immune to sniffing and requires the rpc portmapper. from the yp(4) man page: "Client NIS systems receive all NIS data in ASCII form." Ouch. - there's a whole bunch of information in security(7), written by matt - there are a lot of papers out there concerning unix security in general - do not run network daemons you don't need - if possible run network daemons as non-root - kill inetd, use tcpserver (ucspi-tcp) - be restrictive in setting subsystem permissions - suid executables are a bad thing[tm] - group permissions often are the key to managing impact from network based attacks - schg does not prevent your system from being r00ted - check your binaries, mtree can do that for you - check your binaries, tripwire can do that for you - check your binaries, ... ;-) have fun /k --=20 > A Christian is a man who feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on > Saturday and is going to do on Monday. --Thomas Ybarra KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FUqhM0BPTilkv0YRAov6AKCLXA1LDwMBqy8609P6PC8tJfDdZgCdGQgH YT+7RDx8HRtCGTjIoDBYoTk= =IWqF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l76fUT7nc3MelDdI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 12:46: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98A3237B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 41398 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 2001 19:46:24 -0000 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:46:24 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010530214624.D40244@mail.webmonster.de> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> <200105292315.f4TNFOu31573@earth.backplane.com> <15125.1433.517037.245078@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010530112855.D68285@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530112855.D68285@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:28:55AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris Kennaway(kris@obsecurity.org)@2001.05.30 11:28:55 +0000: > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:13AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: >=20 > > In any case, what about my other question? If I "schg" the ssh > > related executables and libs, will installworld croak or does it know > > to noschg all files first? >=20 > It will probably croak. >=20 > > I can't see that it does it even for the > > binaries that are schg in the system already (like rsh). >=20 > install -f? rohrbach@WM:datasink[~]36% mount | grep /usr /dev/da0s1g on /usr (ufs, local, noatime, read-only) that's a viable alternative, too (if you got /usr/local on a different filesystem). /usr/(src|obj) are symlinks to /usr/local/(src|obj) on my builder box. /k --=20 > MCSE: Management Can't Send E-mail KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FU4QM0BPTilkv0YRAiRJAKCBMSaSsovDONleWR77wCiaBSstNgCgsp6B woyJ3LSJCgPCEOAbC258sMg= =Bi+N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9dgjiU4MmWPVapMU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 13:17:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE2A37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0EF222B04; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5B310A; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4UKHN733983; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B155552.5080304@quack.kfu.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:17:22 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010411 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe Cc: echelon , Stable FreeBSD Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > i can't believe that this hasn't been fixed yet. It has been, but for those who cvsup'ed during a particular time, the damage was done to your checkouts file. > > anyway, to fix in the short term: > > cd /usr/ports > rm -rf www/jakarta-tomcat > make update This is insufficient. You must also edit /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts-cvs:. and remove all of the lines mentioning jakarta-tomcat. I believe the cvsup maintainers have said that they will work on the crash, but it will take longer for them to fix it than for those affected to workaround the problem thusly. I've done it to the dozen cvsup'ers I take care of already. It's not a big deal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 13:20:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549B737B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjklist@ekahuna.com) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:20:02 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:20:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Message-ID: <3B14F390.8820.439669@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:10:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: John Polstra > Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today > > > I spent a couple of years regularly ragging on people to check the > archives. Guess what? It doesn't work and it's a waste of time. > It just makes us all look like a bunch of grumps. (Not to mention > that the search engine isn't working too well these days.) If these > repeats are annoying you, then your best bet is to filter them > locally or ignore them some other way. Leave it to those who are > willing (like Peter Pentchev, David Chapman, and me) to answer these > questions. Really, sometimes you just have to accept reality and face > the fact that your ideal world is unachievable. There are people who > will check the archives and there are people who won't in a million > years. And there are people who check the archives but don't find > what they were looking for. Get over it and learn to ignore the > messages that annoy you. > > John Since I was the one who posted the original message, let me just say that a couple of people were nice enough to cc: me messages about this already having been covered, and I replied to them *privately* so as to not further spam the list with useless messages. (I only subscribe to the digests so I don't see the replies on the list immediately) FWIW, I *did* check the list digests over about the last week or so but I missed that issue. One thing that might be really helpful in that regard is some kind of separate list or web archive or search engine that simply shows recent known and confirmed CVS/build problems so we can quickly check it before cvsup'ing a box. My apologies for spamming the list in the first place. Phil -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 13:25:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smart.visp-europe.psi.com (smart.visp-europe.psi.com [212.222.105.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8A937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msch@snafu.de) Received: from ns10-n67-038.de.inter.net ([213.73.67.38] helo=mscu.best-eng.de) by smart.visp-europe.psi.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 155CWy-0003Fe-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:25:24 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:25:24 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Matthias Schuendehuette Organization: Private site running FreeBSD From: Matthias Schuendehuette To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 'xl'+DP83840 broken? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everybody! I have some problems with -STABLE since approx. May 15th with the 'xl' driver. It concerns the old 3Com 3C905 (without B or C) with the following (d)messages: xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0 nsphy0: on miibus0 The problem is: If I configure the NIC fixed with 100Mbit/full-duplex, i.e. 'ifconfig xl0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex', the NIC becomes inoperable and a pure 'ifconfig xl0' reports: ... media: 100baseTX status: no carrier ... and the activity-LED isn't flashing any more. This happens regardeless of the switch configuration. It doesn't matter if the switch is fixed with 100Mbit/full-duplex or is 'auto'. The NIC *does* work with 'media auto', but reports only '100baseTX' on a fixed (full-duplex) configured switch. It reports '100baseTX ' on a switch which is also configured for autonegotiation. I could *not* reproduce that behaviour on the same equipment with a 3C905*C* - with that NIC, all works fine (as usual with FreeBSD ;-). IIRC 4.3-STABLE around/shortly after the -RELEASE date hadn't these problems. Any ideas? Ciao/BSD - Matthias ---------------------------------- Matthias Schuendehuette Solmsstrasse 44 Date: 30-May-01 D-10961 Berlin Time: 22:01:32 This message was sent by XFMail + FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 13:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E5537B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E0ABBBAAB for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:25:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002301c0e946$45b4c030$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530113714.E76217@rand.tgd.net> Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:22:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The compiler and binary utilities are GPL. As are many of the utilities such as groff. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" ; "Valeriy E. Ushakov" Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well > > I regularly use FreeBSD as the base for products/projects and > am a little erk'ed that ipf resides in the base system with a very > restrictive license that prevents me from using it. A large number of > clients that I have worked with in the past require the ability to > resell (or own 100%) binary versions of whatever solution I've created > (who-hoo government!). Cleaning out ipf from the source tree isn't > tough, but it's time consuming and ticks me off. Base BSD should have > the BSD license, yes? > > > With that in mind, I'm 200% in favor of moving it to the ports > tree, kernel source hooks and all. Cleaning out ipf from the source > tree last time wasn't tough, but not my idea of a picnic. > > > Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can > > change the source at their will and distribute it -- according to > > the IPFilter licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD > > system level source code. > > > > > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > > > > reason to me. > > > > > > Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > > > > > > http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > > > > > > | I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > > > | be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > > > | required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > > > | meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > > > | people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > > > | issues they had. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 13:48: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.ender.com (dragon.ender.com [216.65.103.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E9937B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dive@dragon.ender.com) Received: (from dive@localhost) by dragon.ender.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA24513 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:48:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:48:00 -0700 From: dive To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010530134800.A24208@dragon.ender.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm in favor of keeping ipf in the base system, since the base system is (understandably) watched a lot more closely for bugs and generally things tend to get fixed in the base more quickly (such as the recent fragmentation issue in ipfilter) I use ipfilter / ipnat in favor of ipfw/natd, since ipnat greatly outperforms natd in my setup. -Sean To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 14:54:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0237B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 155Duh-000BFP-00; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:53:59 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4ULxhK01679; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:59:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:59:43 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthias Schuendehuette Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 'xl'+DP83840 broken? Message-ID: <20010530235943.A1665@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from msch@snafu.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:25:24PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:25:24PM +0200, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote: I guess see PR kern/27722 on www.freebsd.org Try the fix I present in that PR to see if it fixes your problem as well. Wilko [who feels the change to miibus should be backed out..] > Hello everybody! > > I have some problems with -STABLE since approx. May 15th with the 'xl' > driver. It concerns the old 3Com 3C905 (without B or C) with the > following (d)messages: > > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 9 at device > 12.0 on pci0 > nsphy0: on miibus0 > > The problem is: If I configure the NIC fixed with 100Mbit/full-duplex, > i.e. 'ifconfig xl0 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex', the NIC becomes > inoperable and a pure 'ifconfig xl0' reports: > ... > media: 100baseTX status: no carrier > ... > and the activity-LED isn't flashing any more. This happens regardeless of > the switch configuration. It doesn't matter if the switch is fixed with > 100Mbit/full-duplex or is 'auto'. > > The NIC *does* work with 'media auto', but reports only '100baseTX' on a > fixed (full-duplex) configured switch. > It reports '100baseTX ' on a switch which is also configured > for autonegotiation. > > I could *not* reproduce that behaviour on the same equipment with a > 3C905*C* - with that NIC, all works fine (as usual with FreeBSD ;-). > > IIRC 4.3-STABLE around/shortly after the -RELEASE date hadn't these > problems. > > Any ideas? -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 15:19:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8121F37B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UMJT006768; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4UMJSF25643; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:19:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105302219.f4UMJSF25643@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: mit@dreaming.org Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe wrote: > i can't believe that this hasn't been fixed yet. It has been fixed as much as we can fix it, short of removing the port entirely. You will have to apply the work-around described in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 Don't wait around for it to get fixed, because it's as good as it's going to get. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 15:42:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC48937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id PAA30889; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:41:29 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda30887; Wed May 30 15:41:17 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f4UMfCP04924; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdmI4922; Wed May 30 15:40:16 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f4UMe1J18763; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105302240.f4UMe1J18763@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdk18751; Wed May 30 15:39:18 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: dive Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 May 2001 13:48:00 PDT." <20010530134800.A24208@dragon.ender.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:39:18 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010530134800.A24208@dragon.ender.com>, dive writes: > I'm in favor of keeping ipf in the base system, since the base system is (und > erstandably) > watched a lot more closely for bugs and generally things tend to get fixed in > the base > more quickly (such as the recent fragmentation issue in ipfilter) > I use ipfilter / ipnat in favor of ipfw/natd, since ipnat greatly outperforms > natd in my I raised this issue on -arch when it was discussed to move some software from the base system to ports. I was told that ports are maintained to the same standard as the base FreeBSD. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 15:59:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shagged.org (rtfm.shagged.org [195.11.8.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FD537B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@shagged.org) Received: from chris by mail.shagged.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 155Evl-00009t-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:59:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:59:09 +0100 From: Chris Elsworth To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Repeated kernel panics in 4.3-STABLE Message-ID: <20010530235909.A588@shagged.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've been getting kernel panics quite frequently since recompiling the kernel recently - it was about the same time as the SMB commit, roughly, so I think my first port of call in the morning will be to remove this and see if it makes any difference. However in the meantime, I have turned on kernel dumping and gotten this - is it any use to anyone, if you need more info please let me know.. (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 IdlePTD 3170304 initial pcb at 281980 panicstr: malloc: wrong bucket panic messages: --- panic: malloc: wrong bucket syncing disks... 29 done Uptime: 1h53m44s dumping to dev #ad/0x20004, offset 1572992 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 469 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 #1 0xc013f86b in boot (howto=256) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:309 #2 0xc013fbe8 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc02426c1, howto=-1055082584) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:556 #3 0xc013b3da in malloc (size=16, type=0xc026cf20, flags=1) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_malloc.c:262 #4 0xc0189c9e in in_pcbinshash (inp=0xccb11900) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:930 #5 0xc018954d in in_pcbbind (inp=0xccb11900, nam=0x0, p=0xce7d1920) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:341 #6 0xc01897f1 in in_pcbconnect (inp=0xccb11900, nam=0xc13a1da0, p=0xce7d1920) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/in_pcb.c:510 #7 0xc01978cd in udp_connect (so=0xcca51000, nam=0xc13a1da0, p=0xce7d1920) at /usr/src/sys/netinet/udp_usrreq.c:851 #8 0xc015cf6e in soconnect (so=0xcca51000, nam=0xc13a1da0, p=0xce7d1920) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_socket.c:391 #9 0xc0160905 in connect (p=0xce7d1920, uap=0xce7d4f80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/uipc_syscalls.c:394 #10 0xc022874d in syscall2 (frame={tf_fs = 47, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = 47, tf_edi = -1077941100, tf_esi = 45, tf_ebp = -1077943276, tf_isp = -830648364, tf_ebx = 673341896, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 98, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 673047136, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 659, tf_esp = -1077943928, tf_ss = 47}) ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1150 #11 0xc021d585 in Xint0x80_syscall () #12 0x281eee9d in ?? () #13 0x281faefb in ?? () #14 0x281f9810 in ?? () #15 0x8073bca in ?? () #16 0x8086724 in ?? () #17 0x8058707 in ?? () #18 0x8059a91 in ?? () #19 0x80696b1 in ?? () #20 0x8053eab in ?? () I don't pretend to know what I'm doing with gdb :) If anyone can shed any light.. cheers :) -- Chris Elsworth - Systems Administrator, Demon Internet UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 16: 6:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11502.mail.yahoo.com (web11502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00F5837B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:06:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bayers@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010530230634.25706.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.52.151] by web11502.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:06:34 PDT Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:06:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Bayers Subject: Kernel Fails to Boot. Errors out On MySQL To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a remote freebsd server. I successfully did a buildworld, compiled the kernel and installed it. There were no errors. When I rebooted, it didn't come back up. A technician there--its a dedicated server--tried to 'boot kernel.old' and couldn't. He's getting the message: "starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/db/mysql". And it hangs. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 16:27:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.oitsec.umn.edu (mail.oitsec.umn.edu [160.94.247.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC09837B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordin@mail.oitsec.umn.edu) Received: (from nordin@localhost) by mail.oitsec.umn.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4UNRst16946 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:27:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nordin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:27:54 -0500 From: Eric Nordin To: stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20010530182754.A16930@mail.oitsec.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 16:29:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D20D737B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C7710F40F; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:29:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <017d01c0e960$540acca0$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Eric Nordin" , References: <20010530182754.A16930@mail.oitsec.umn.edu> Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 18:29:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Access Denied ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Nordin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:27 PM > subscribe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 16:36:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11501.mail.yahoo.com (web11501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E06C337B43C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bayers@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010530233650.83386.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.52.151] by web11501.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:36:50 PDT Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Bayers Subject: After Kernel Install, Hangs To: stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It hangs with: "starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/db/mysql" Everything was working fine and I wanted to upgrade from 4.1 to 4.3 so that I could make use of some new packages. It's a remote server that I don't have physical access to. I followed UPDATE, doing a buildworld, compiling the kernel, then installing it. Everything went fine. After rebooting, it hanged. The technician sent me the error message. Thinking about it, mysql could've started fine and whatever is next hanged. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 16:52:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web11505.mail.yahoo.com (web11505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9637037B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bayers@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010530235220.89174.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.196.52.151] by web11505.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:52:20 PDT Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Bayers Subject: Re: After Kernel Install, Hangs To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010530233650.83386.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, it hangs. He can't get to a prompt. He tried 'boot kernel.old' and the same thing happened. --- Jim Bayers wrote: > It hangs with: > > "starting mysqld daemon with databases from > /var/db/mysql" > > Everything was working fine and I wanted to upgrade > from 4.1 to 4.3 so that I could make use of some new > packages. > > It's a remote server that I don't have physical > access > to. > > I followed UPDATE, doing a buildworld, compiling the > kernel, then installing it. Everything went fine. > > After rebooting, it hanged. The technician sent me > the error message. > > Thinking about it, mysql could've started fine and > whatever is next hanged. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - > only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 17:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (sirius-giga.rz.uni-ulm.de [134.60.246.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E16A37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de) Received: from lilith (lilith.wohnheim.uni-ulm.de [134.60.106.64]) by mail.rz.uni-ulm.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA24674; Thu, 31 May 2001 02:49:55 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <014201c0e96b$9da23640$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> From: "Siegbert Baude" To: "John Polstra" Cc: References: <200105302219.f4UMJSF25643@vashon.polstra.com> Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 02:49:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi John, > It has been fixed as much as we can fix it, short of removing the port > entirely. You will have to apply the work-around described in > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 I applied your workaround and everything is fine now. But I have some questions, which I put on questions@freebsd.org three days ago. Seems you don't track this and nobody else could answer. So I just ask again: Is the cvsup-bin port now obsolete? Is the cvsup package, which is mentioned in your workaround, thought as a replacement for the cvsup-bin port? Do they have the same features, purpose, size,...? Is it possible, that the users, who are still using cvsup-bin, will face problems similar to the jakarta-tomcat one in the future? And just for my personal interest: What is the problem with the cvsup-bin port, that it won't be patched? Ciao Siegbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 17:55:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E30537B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V0th007458; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4V0thU25976; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 17:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105310055.f4V0thU25976@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: Siegbert.Baude@gmx.de Subject: Re: Port update (jakarta-tomcat) problem In-Reply-To: <014201c0e96b$9da23640$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> References: <200105302219.f4UMJSF25643@vashon.polstra.com> <014201c0e96b$9da23640$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <014201c0e96b$9da23640$4011a8c0@wohnheim.uniulm.de>, Siegbert Baude wrote: > Is the cvsup-bin port now obsolete? It is obsolescent. I am waiting for the new cvsup and cvsup-devel packages to appear on the FTP sites. Once the new packages are available I will delete the cvsup-bin and cvsupd-bin ports. > Is the cvsup package, which is mentioned in your workaround, thought > as a replacement for the cvsup-bin port? Yes. > Do they have the same features, purpose, Yes. > size,...? Not the same, but close enough. > Is it possible, that the users, who are still using cvsup-bin, will face > problems similar to the jakarta-tomcat one in the future? Yes, although I surely hope not. :-( Users should upgrade, preferably to the cvsup-devel port, which has many bug fixes that aren't present in the other ports. > And just for my personal interest: What is the problem with the > cvsup-bin port, that it won't be patched? It is a binary, and binaries are difficult to patch. I could produce an entirely new binary, but there's no point to that since I have made the cvsup and cvsup-devel packages stand-alone now. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 18: 2:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BEE37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8CA86ACBE; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:32:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:32:13 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Darian Lanx Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible Install bug for the following hardware in FreeBSD Stable (4.3) Message-ID: <20010531103213.I81040@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200105301322.f4UDMlw03356@silence.sparrows.ici> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105301322.f4UDMlw03356@silence.sparrows.ici>; from content@openprojects.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:22:37PM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 15:22:37 +0200, Darian Lanx wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > Hello list. > After debugging this with a few friends who are by far more experience din > freebsd than I am, I have been asked to report the following strange > behaviour to this list > > He asked me to be specific, so I am going to provide a much information as I > can. > The hardware used is as follows: > ASUS CUSL Motherboard > 2 Hard drives > On the primary Master a Maxtor 53073U6 30736 MB > ioctl (I am in linux) reports the following > geometry for it: > geometry = 3736/255/63, sectors = 60030432, start = 0 > > The second hard drive on the secondary Master channel is a IBM DTLA-307030 > also 30736 MB. ioctl reports the following geometry for this drive: > geometry = 3737/255/63, sectors = 60036480, start = 0 > > I have downloaded the 4.3 boot floppies from ftp.at.freebsd.org and then > booted my system. > After entering the installer friend told me to press scroll lock and scroll > up to see the actual output of the Kernel. > > The output for the drives reads as follows: > ad0 2014 MB [4092/16/63] at at-0-master UDMA66 > ad2 29314 MB [5956/16/63 at at-1-master UDMA100 at-0 and at-1? > As you can see the first drive is not recognized at all, I can see that the first drive is recognized. What makes you think it is not? > the second drive is almost missing a gigabyte (yes I know the drive > looses space due to formatting but still some space is missing) It looks as if there's a bogon in the CHS reporting code: 5956/16/63 corresponds to 6003648 sectors, one-tenth of the correct value. 60036480 sectors of 512 bytes correspond to 29314.6 MB, the value reported by the driver. You're probably confusing MB with millions of bytes, which is what the drive manufacturers call MB. > The first drive is recognized correctly by the bios it operates in UDMA mode > 4 (66) > The second drive is also recognized correctly by the bios it operates in UDMA > mode 5 (100). > > The BIOS for this motherboard is up to date, I checked with the vendor. I > have ran several test on the drives and their logic, both drives are 100% > operational. > For both drives SMART monitoring is enabled. > > Thank you very much, since I am not subscribed to this list a CC to my > private mail would be very nice, yet I will make sure to check via the web. > Thank you and I hope this helps, FreeBSD looks interesting to me and I really > would like using it along with my linux setup. OK. So do you have a problem? I can't see any here. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 18:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E374C37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 155HJf-0002xd-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 03:31:59 +0200 Received: from a0574.pppool.de ([213.6.5.116] helo=spotteswoode.yi.org) by mx0.freenet.de with asmtp (ID inode@freenet.de) (Exim 3.22 #1) id 155HJe-0007uw-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 31 May 2001 03:31:59 +0200 Received: (qmail 1844 invoked by uid 0); 31 May 2001 01:32:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 03:32:15 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Build failure (long), was Re: Kernel Build Failure in kern/subr_disk.c Message-ID: <20010531033215.B1774@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Tue, May 29, 2001 at 09:34:14PM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Kris Kennaway: > Aha, now we're getting somewhere. Just what version are you trying to > update from, anyway? tsort -q has existed since 1996. Source-level > updates from a 5 year old system are by no means supported. i got freebsd4-stable last year, from cd's a few months old. i'm sure there is a working procedure for upgrading a fbsd 4-stable to fbsd 4.3-stable. someone (could not find the name, sorry) proposed to do the upgrading in two smaller steps. this might work as far as i can see. greets, clemens fischer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 18:37: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BDB37B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02291 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 19:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 19:19:12 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp0 "sleeping" Problem (NOT NEW DRIVER RELATED) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a followup "It works now and this is what I did" message in relation to this issue so it ends up archived and is searchable. The problem below hasn't recurred for almost 7 days. I did the following (obvious things): 1) Updated to latest version of -stable 2) Turned off APM on the second motherboard (I believe it was off in the original motherboard which also had the problem, but I am not 100% sure). 3) Updated flash bios. It had P03 and I updated it to P07. 4) Did a once-through in bios and insured everything was set correctly. I don't think I changed anything. I did ensure PnP os was turned off and reset the config stuff. 5) Disabled sound on motherboard. 6) Left "old" fxp0 driver in the kernel (non-mii) Several people indicated that this might be caused also by a Denial of Service attack of some sort. I saw nothing in netstat to indicate this, HOWEVER, I have no empirical evidence one way or another other than it went away when I did the above items, and did not recur afterwards. Will follow up if it reoccurs. On Thu, 24 May 2001, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:33:57 -0600 (MDT) > From: Forrest W. Christian > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: fxp0 "sleeping" Problem (NOT NEW DRIVER RELATED) > > I'm having a problem which I'm hoping that someone can point me in the > right direction for. > > We have a new server which has an intel CA810EAL motherboard and embedded > fxp0 10/100 ethernet card. The relevant lines in dmesg are: > > fxp0: port 0xde80-0xdebf mem > 0xff700000-0xff7fffff,0xff8fe000-0xff8fefff irq 9 at device 1.0 on pci1 > fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:aa:8d:22 > > I have had both the new (mii) and old (non-mii) driver, and the symptom > set is the same on both. > > The symptoms are as follows: > > Several times per day the card seems to go to sleep. We cannot ping > through the interface at all (in or out), but pings to the network card ip > address from the box comes back (networking is still alive). > > I have been watching mbufs. The current output is: > > mail# netstat -m > 492/3536/10240 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 130 mbufs allocated to data > 362 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 110/2560/2560 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 6004 Kbytes allocated to network (78% of mb_map in use) > 49385 requests for memory denied > 3 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > > Generally I never see the clusters above 150 or so UNLESS the card is > "hung" which I suspect is a symptom and not the cause... > > We don't need to do anything to have it come back - just wait, and then > everything seems just fine like as if nothing had happened at all. > It seems to sleep about 5 minutes. I can't tell if it sleeps for a > specific length of time or not, but from the missed ping responses, it > seems like it varys from time to time. > > I am getting NO syslog or dmesg errors when this occurs. > > I have replaced the entire motherboard. > > I have used both new and old drivers. > > I have changed switchports and cabling. The card and switch both > correctly detect 100mb/s full duplex. > > This is running -STABLE from about a week ago. CVSUP is in progress as we > speak. > > Any ideas? > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 > http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 > Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 21:17:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDA137B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:17:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org) Received: from churchofinformationwarfare.org (troll.symmetric.net [207.229.168.3]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277D0627E for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:17:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3B15C5C7.C39E2E93@churchofinformationwarfare.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:17:11 -0500 From: Crow Leader X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cvsup failure References: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010527210248.B51861@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010528234040.D438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010528144202.C58165@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010529004908.G438@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B135002.5BB4F5C9@i-clue.de> <20010529132630.B4555@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529044330.A37813@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010530054451.G591@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010531033215.B1774@spotteswoode.yi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been getting this error for the past few hours now: bash-2.04# time cvsup /etc/cvsupfile Connected to cvsup8.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Updating collection src-crypto/cvs Updating collection src-secure/cvs Updating collection ports-all/cvs Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": Directory not empty even if I manually rub that directory and try again. My /etc/cvsupfile is below: *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_4 *default delete use-rel-suffix src-all src-crypto src-secure *default tag=. ports-all doc-all KEN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 21:19: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9942C37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V4J0008017; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4V4J0L26262; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105310419.f4V4J0L26262@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org Subject: Re: cvsup failure In-Reply-To: <3B15C5C7.C39E2E93@churchofinformationwarfare.org> References: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010531033215.B1774@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B15C5C7.C39E2E93@churchofinformationwarfare.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3B15C5C7.C39E2E93@churchofinformationwarfare.org>, Crow Leader wrote: > I've been getting this error for the past few hours now: > > bash-2.04# time cvsup /etc/cvsupfile > Connected to cvsup8.FreeBSD.org > Updating collection src-all/cvs > Updating collection src-crypto/cvs > Updating collection src-secure/cvs > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": > Directory not empty The work-around for this problem is described here, near the end of the page: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 22:16: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 821) id 84B2A37B42C; Wed, 30 May 2001 22:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 22:16:07 -0700 From: "John W. De Boskey" To: Stable List Subject: -stable make release failure Message-ID: <20010530221607.A84026@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I haven't had a chance to dig very deep into this yet, but I'm seeing the following when doing a make release under 4.3 stable. Sources current as of 2001/05/30 21:24:18 EST. My last clean make release on stable was 4.3-20010527-SNAP. cc -O -pipe -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet -DINET6 -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include -Wall -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include -DBINDIR=\"/usr/bin\" -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/sbin\" -DLIBEXECDIR=\"/usr/libexec\" -o telnetd global.o slc.o state.o sys_term.o telnetd.o termstat.o utility.o authenc.o -lutil -ltermcap -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet -ltelnet -lcrypto -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libkrb -lkrb -lcrypt -lcom_err -lmp /usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet/libtelnet.a(sra.o): In function `check_user': sra.o(.text+0xc2f): undefined reference to `pam_start' sra.o(.text+0xc47): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' sra.o(.text+0xc69): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' sra.o(.text+0xca9): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' sra.o(.text+0xcd3): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' sra.o(.text+0xd27): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' sra.o(.text+0xd45): undefined reference to `pam_end' sra.o(.text+0xd5d): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd. *** Error code 1 The chrooted 'make world' inside the 'make release' target is completing successfully. The doRelease target is where the failure occurs, I believe (specifically) in the command sequence: cd /usr/src/release/../kerberosIV && ( make bootstrap && make obj all help-distribute DISTDIR=/R/stage/tree s && make kprog ) Any help is appreciated. Thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 23:14:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4020C37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id gujbaaaa for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:13:51 +1000 Message-ID: <3B15E1CC.ACD2A2A@quake.com.au> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:16:44 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra Cc: stable@freebsd.org, presence@churchofinformationwarfare.org Subject: Re: cvsup failure References: <20010527150747.B1614@spotteswoode.yi.org> <20010529213414.A13277@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010531033215.B1774@spotteswoode.yi.org> <3B15C5C7.C39E2E93@churchofinformationwarfare.org> <200105310419.f4V4J0L26262@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra wrote: > > bash-2.04# time cvsup /etc/cvsupfile > > Connected to cvsup8.FreeBSD.org > > Updating collection src-all/cvs > > Updating collection src-crypto/cvs > > Updating collection src-secure/cvs > > Updating collection ports-all/cvs > > Delete ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files > > Updater failed: Cannot delete "/usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat/files": > > Directory not empty > > The work-around for this problem is described here, near the end of > the page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27495 There has been A LOT of posts about this in the last few days, it would pay to search the archives first ;) I didnt even notice there was a problem, just rm -rf /usr/ports/www/jakarta-tomcat and then cvsup worked... But a lot of people seem to need to remove it from there /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs\:. or ports-www or whatever your setup is... Guess I was just lucky... (after seeing all these posts I edited my ports checkouts just incase :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 0:20:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D52A37B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA84264; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B15F0A8.2A4E1BF6@DougBarton.net> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:20:08 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Bayers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Fails to Boot. Errors out On MySQL References: <20010530230634.25706.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Bayers wrote: > > I have a remote freebsd server. I successfully did a > buildworld, compiled the kernel and installed it. > There were no errors. > > When I rebooted, it didn't come back up. > > A technician there--its a dedicated server--tried to > 'boot kernel.old' and couldn't. He's getting the > message: > > "starting mysqld daemon with databases from > /var/db/mysql". > > And it hangs. You need to get the system into single user mode, (use boot -s) then: fsck -p mount -a -t nonfs cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d for file in *; do mv $file $file.dont done then 'exit' Once the system comes up multiuser, diagnose and fix mysql problems. For future reference, ALWAYS disable startup scripts for third party stuff before _starting_ the upgrade. This is especially true for remote upgrades. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 0:27:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB0F37B43C for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id JAA20302; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:35:17 +0200 Message-ID: <3B15F2D9.42288681@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:29:29 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Bayers Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Fails to Boot. Errors out On MySQL References: <20010530230634.25706.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Bayers schrieb: > > I have a remote freebsd server. I successfully did a > buildworld, compiled the kernel and installed it. > There were no errors. > > When I rebooted, it didn't come back up. > > A technician there--its a dedicated server--tried to > 'boot kernel.old' and couldn't. He's getting the > message: > > "starting mysqld daemon with databases from > /var/db/mysql". > > And it hangs. If you're at the stage mysqld should get booted, the system ist multiuser already and the kernel is running. Seems you have problems with mysqld. Have your tech boot single user, disable /usr/local/etc/mysqld.sh (chmod a-x), then reboot, then fix mysql. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1: 3:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.ender.com (dragon.ender.com [216.65.103.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CA637B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dive@dragon.ender.com) Received: (from dive@localhost) by dragon.ender.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA15092; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:03:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 01:03:06 -0700 From: dive To: Doug Lee Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010531010306.B14387@dragon.ender.com> References: <20010530134800.A24208@dragon.ender.com> <20010530223704.A33752@kirk.sector14.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530223704.A33752@kirk.sector14.net>; from dgl@visi.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:04PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if its my particular setup that makes ipnat faster, or just the fact that with ipnat the NAT is done in the kernel not in a daemon - I haven't tested ipnat vs. natd on any other setup yet since I just started using ipnat. my setup is: a FreeBSD server (Celeron 533mhz, 256MB ram) with a dual port 100TX network adapter (thunderlan chipset, compaq card tho), a cable modem which is connected to one port, and my internal LAN which consists of a NetBSD machine, a FreeBSD laptop, and a 'doze box. I'm using ipnat on the freebsd server to give the lan net access through the cable modem, and i've been comparing ipnat / natd by downloading a file from the internet to one of the The client machines with the server running natd, and then downloading it with the server using ipnat. so far with both the netbsd box and freebsd laptop it seems to work faster with ipnat than natd, haven't tried it from the windows box 'cause I hate that thing ;) I've never had natd bog down anything, but I've had it sit at the top of top (no pun intended) and eat 60-90% cpu before while multiple LAN machines were downloading through it. On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 10:37:04PM -0400, Doug Lee wrote: > Just curious... what about your setup makes ipf/ipnat so much better > performers than ipfw/natd? I've always used ipfw/natd but keep > thinking about changing to ipf/ipnat. For one thing, natd is hard to > reconfigure on the fly, and I think (from what little I remember) > ipnat can handle this easily without a kill/restart... > > But I've never seen natd bog down anything, even a 486-66 (DSL, > 640/256KBPS; 100BaseT LAN on other NIC, maybe 15 machines; the box is > the Internet server there). > > On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:48:00PM -0700, dive wrote: > > I'm in favor of keeping ipf in the base system, since the base system is (understandably) > > watched a lot more closely for bugs and generally things tend to get fixed in the base > > more quickly (such as the recent fragmentation issue in ipfilter) > > I use ipfilter / ipnat in favor of ipfw/natd, since ipnat greatly outperforms natd in my > > setup. > > -Sean > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- > Doug Lee dgl@visi.com http://www.visi.com/~dgl > Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com > "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, > and few accomplish it after the age of six." --D. Sutton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1: 6: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B398237B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:06:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 624E66ACBC; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:36:02 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:36:02 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010531173602.B41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com>; from veldy@veldy.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50AM -0500 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 9:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > me. > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. The FreeBSD core team and Darren Reed have agreement in principle that we can keep the sources in the source tree. We're still working on the details, but the amount of attention this issue is getting is just getting people needlessly upset. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1: 8:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2807037B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C38DC6ACBC; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:38:18 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:38:18 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Tulloch Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010531173818.C41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <04a401c0e917$a968a120$931576d8@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@cosa.uk-legal.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:20:51PM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 17:20:51 +0100, Andrew Tulloch wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2001, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: >> On Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:44 AM, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: >>> Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers >>> can change the source at their will and distribute it -- according >>> to the IPFilter licence. That right should be implicit in ALL >>> FreeBSD system level source code. >> >> Someone on irc mentioned that something like ipf that cannot be modified >> should go into the ports. Not my personal belief, but I thought I would >> relay it anyhow. > > If you take a look at the cvs commit logs e.g. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_fil.h > > you'll notice its Darren himself who does virtually all the commits on the > ipf code in the FreeBSD tree, I'm going to assume he gave himself > permisson :) Much more to the point, he didn't do *all* the commits. I think this indicates his viewpoint on the matter. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1:12:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3C137B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:12:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9566A6ACBE; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:42:50 +0930 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:42:50 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Christoph Sold Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:04:04PM +0200 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] This message contained so many replies in different directions that I'm not sure I have restored the correct sequence. On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 18:04:04 +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" schrieb: >> On Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:39 AM, "Valeriy E. Ushakov" wrote: >>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: >>> >>>> It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good >>>> reason to me. >>> >>> Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. >>> >>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html >>> >>>> I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to >>>> be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is >>>> required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a >>>> meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD >>>> people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any >>>> issues they had. >> >> Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change >> the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter >> licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source >> code. > > I disagree. IPF is part of the ports. Since we accept other beasts > (even without source code access like netscape 4.x) to lurk in > there. Thus, having ipf in FreeBSD ports does in no way conflict > with the license of the base system. I'm not sure which system you're talking about here. We call it IPFILTER in FreeBSD, and it's in the kernel source tree. If the worst comes to the worst, we can move it to the ports, where you would be correct, but I'm personally confident that we'll come to a clarification which will leave it where it is. Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1:29:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A68C37B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id KAA20894 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:37:14 +0200 Message-ID: <3B16015E.CFE423DA@i-clue.de> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:31:26 +0200 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey schrieb: > > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] > > This message contained so many replies in different directions that > I'm not sure I have restored the correct sequence. > > On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 18:04:04 +0200, Christoph Sold wrote: > > "Thomas T. Veldhouse" schrieb: > >> On Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:39 AM, "Valeriy E. Ushakov" wrote: > >>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > >>> > >>>> It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good > >>>> reason to me. > >>> > >>> Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users. > >>> > >>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html > >>> > >>>> I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to > >>>> be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is > >>>> required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a > >>>> meaningful way. A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD > >>>> people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any > >>>> issues they had. > >> > >> Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change > >> the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter > >> licence. That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source > >> code. > > > > I disagree. IPF is part of the ports. Since we accept other beasts > > (even without source code access like netscape 4.x) to lurk in > > there. Thus, having ipf in FreeBSD ports does in no way conflict > > with the license of the base system. > > I'm not sure which system you're talking about here. We call it > IPFILTER in FreeBSD, and it's in the kernel source tree. If the worst > comes to the worst, we can move it to the ports, where you would be > correct, but I'm personally confident that we'll come to a > clarification which will leave it where it is. Greg is right, I stand corrected. Sorry about the confusion. -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 1:51:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from atlantis.erlm.siemens.de (atlantis.erlm.siemens.de [212.114.202.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6505237B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Matthias.Schuendehuette@bln7.siemens.de) Received: from mail01.erlm.siemens.de (mail01.erlm.siemens.de [146.254.160.12]) by atlantis.erlm.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07612 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:51:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blns216a.ev.siemens.de (blns216a.bln7.siemens.de [147.54.115.16]) by mail01.erlm.siemens.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16981 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:51:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blns216a.ev.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:49:36 +0200 Message-ID: <07B6FA0943AED311A0000050DA71DFC001B38DF6@blns216a.ev.siemens.de> From: Schuendehuette Matthias To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: 'xl'+DP83840 broken? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:49:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, > I guess see PR kern/27722 on www.freebsd.org Bingo! Thanks a lot, Wilko. Since I'm tracking STABLE, I replaced revision 1.2.2.3 of nsphy.c (which was merged from current on May 14th) with 1.2.2.2 from W.Paul. This solved all my problems! IMHO the "new" nsphy.c has nothing to do with anything called "STABLE", (BTW: it killed the connected switchport after some time - nothing that I like :-( ). And it doesn't help to fix problems with 'fxp' while breaking 'xl'. This MFC should be withdrawn. Thanks a lot again and... Ciao/BSD - Matthias To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 2:51:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from segfault.kiev.ua (segfault.kiev.ua [193.193.193.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C5937B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 02:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by segfault.kiev.ua (8) with UUCP id MTP12931; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:50:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua) Received: (from netch@localhost) by iv.nn.kiev.ua (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4V7wgU01538; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:58:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:58:42 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Fails to Boot. Errors out On MySQL Message-ID: <20010531105842.B749@iv.nn.kiev.ua> References: <20010530230634.25706.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> <3B15F0A8.2A4E1BF6@DougBarton.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3B15F0A8.2A4E1BF6@DougBarton.net>; from DougB@DougBarton.net on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:20:08AM -0700 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> Doug Barton wrote: > Once the system comes up multiuser, diagnose and fix mysql problems. For > future reference, ALWAYS disable startup scripts for third party stuff > before _starting_ the upgrade. This is especially true for remote upgrades. The pity moment is that init(8) logic is absolutely inconsistent: it doesn't allow local logins before /etc/rc terminates, and even doesn't allow reboot via ctrl-alt-del before /etc/rc terminates. If system hangs during boot scripts, the only way to unhang it locally is to press reset. (Using debugger is not considered.) Does anybody think for cured init? (Really, question not for -stable) /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 3:31:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boco.fee.vutbr.cz (boco.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.9.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D407A37B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 03:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz) Received: from kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz [147.229.8.12]) by boco.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VAVSD21531 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Thu, 31 May 2001 12:31:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from cejkar@localhost) by kazi.dcse.fee.vutbr.cz (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4VAVOW52887; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:31:24 +0200 From: Cejka Rudolf To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org Subject: ATA questions Message-ID: <20010531123124.A52552@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have several questions about ATA interface: * Are there any plans to MFC atacontrol into -stable? It would be really great to allow to set various PIO/DMA modes in -stable. * Is there any work or are there any plans to change write-cache and queue-tagging settings from global to per-drive? We have a mix of drives (Maxtor/IBM) in one box and it would be good to see write-cache and queue-tagging enabled for IBM drive and both disabled for Maxtor drive. * Is there any way to change transfer mode for ZIP drive from PIO0 to PIO4 in -stable? Thanks. -- Rudolf Cejka (cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz; http://www.fee.vutbr.cz/~cejkar) Brno University of Technology, Faculty of El. Engineering and Comp. Science Bozetechova 2, 612 66 Brno, Czech Republic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 4: 2: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yadt.co.uk (yadt.demon.co.uk [158.152.4.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EF4537B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 04:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: (qmail 49799 invoked from network); 31 May 2001 11:00:59 -0000 Received: from gattaca.local.yadt.co.uk (HELO mail.gattaca.yadt.co.uk) (qmailr@10.0.0.2) by xfiles.yadt.co.uk with SMTP; 31 May 2001 11:00:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 27189 invoked by uid 1000); 31 May 2001 11:01:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:01:13 +0100 From: David Taylor To: Darian Lanx Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible Install bug for the following hardware in FreeBSD Stable (4.3) Message-ID: <20010531120113.A26422@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Darian Lanx , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200105301322.f4UDMlw03356@silence.sparrows.ici> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105301322.f4UDMlw03356@silence.sparrows.ici>; from content@openprojects.net on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 15:22:37 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 30 May 2001, Darian Lanx wrote: > Hello list. > After debugging this with a few friends who are by far more experience di= n=20 > freebsd than I am, I have been asked to report the following strange=20 > behaviour to this list >=20 > He asked me to be specific, so I am going to provide a much information a= s I=20 > can. > The hardware used is as follows: > ASUS CUSL Motherboard > 2 Hard drives=20 > On the primary Master a Maxtor 53073U6 30736 MB > ioctl (I am in linux) reports the following > geometry for it: > geometry =3D 3736/255/63, sectors =3D 60030432, start =3D 0 =20 >=20 > The second hard drive on the secondary Master channel is a IBM DTLA-30703= 0=20 > also 30736 MB. ioctl reports the following geometry for this drive: > geometry =3D 3737/255/63, sectors =3D 60036480, start =3D 0 =20 >=20 > I have downloaded the 4.3 boot floppies from ftp.at.freebsd.org and then= =20 > booted my system. > After entering the installer friend told me to press scroll lock and scr= oll=20 > up to see the actual output of the Kernel. >=20 > The output for the drives reads as follows: > ad0 2014 MB [4092/16/63] at at-0-master UDMA66 I had this problem after I enabled the '4092-cylinder limit' jumper on my Maxtor drive, because my BIOS (at that point) hung with a drive over 4092 cylinders. I flashed the BIOS afterwards, but forgot about the jumper, because windows/linux both (somehow) saw the full geometry of the drive. FreeBSD only saw 2014MB until I removed the jumper. Perhaps your drive has a similar jumper? check the manual. > ad2 29314 MB [5956/16/63 at at-1-master UDMA100 29314 * 1024 * 1024 bytes (i.e. 2914 megabytes) =3D=3D 30736 * 1000 * 1000 bytes (i.e. 2914 million bytes) Its something harddrive manufacturers do to make their drives look bigger..= .=20 --=20 David Taylor davidt@yadt.co.uk --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FiR5fIqKXSsJ/xERAj0gAJ9vBX2EiZCKVQqHjEuxvb4bttrxAgCgvgJx n2muEJYDaLmNyLfM8369v0Q= =7D+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 5:30:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu (GS166.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.205.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6044537B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 05:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dpelleg@gs166.sp.cs.cmu.edu) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:30:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: remounts (was: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends) X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid From: Dan Pelleg Reply-To: Dan Pelleg Message-Id: <20010531123020.6044537B422@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: > there are some real high-impact tweaks to be a little bit safer from > rootkits. one of them is mounting /tmp noexec. drawback: you got to > remount it exec for make installworld. I always wondered... Why are remounts permitted in all securelevels? I mean, in a locked-down system where it's acceptable to force a reboot in order to upgrade (or run a rootkit), I should be able to enforce read-only mounts. Currently anyone (well, root) can just mount -u -w them. Is this an implementation problem in mount(2)? (I haven't looked at the code). Or is this going to break things for people (amd? in high securelevels?). What am I missing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 5:59:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from account.abs.net (account.abs.net [207.114.5.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7198C37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 05:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from willie@account.abs.net) Received: (from willie@localhost) by account.abs.net (8.11.3/8.9.3+RBL+DUL+RSS) id f4VCxLS35619 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:59:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from willie) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:59:21 -0400 From: Willie Bollinger To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: encryption Message-ID: <20010531085921.A35603@account.abs.net> Reply-To: Willie Bollinger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I recently installed 4.3 on a new box but it now seems that it is using md5 encryption instead of des, Is there an easy way to change this so when I move the password file off of the old machine that it will recognize the des passwords? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Willie Bollinger, ABSnet Internet Service Voice 410-361-8160 E-Mail willie@abs.net http://www.abs.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 6: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46C2937B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 06:07:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 31 May 2001 14:07:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:07:25 +0100 From: David Malone To: Willie Bollinger Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: encryption Message-ID: <20010531140724.A52119@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010531085921.A35603@account.abs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531085921.A35603@account.abs.net>; from willie@abs.net on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:59:21AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:59:21AM -0400, Willie Bollinger wrote: > I recently installed 4.3 on a new box but it now seems that it is using > md5 encryption instead of des, Is there an easy way to change this so when > I move the password file off of the old machine that it will recognize the > des passwords? It should just work - it can tell from the format of the password entry what type of password to use. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 7:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D3037B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:50:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA01484; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:49:34 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda01482; Thu May 31 07:49:16 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f4VEnAa09396; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdAO9394; Thu May 31 07:48:42 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f4VElEc23010; Thu, 31 May 2001 07:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200105311447.f4VElEc23010@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdr22984; Thu May 31 07:46:14 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: dive Cc: Doug Lee , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 31 May 2001 01:03:06 PDT." <20010531010306.B14387@dragon.ender.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 07:46:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010531010306.B14387@dragon.ender.com>, dive writes: > I don't know if its my particular setup that makes ipnat faster, or just the > fact that with > ipnat the NAT is done in the kernel not in a daemon - I haven't tested ipnat > vs. natd on > any other setup yet since I just started using ipnat. It's been my experience that ipnat is easier to setup than natd when redirecting ingress packets to specific ports. Performance-wise, I would think that ipnat would be faster, as packets don't have to get shuffled through a userland process, they just stay in the kernel. Natd on the other hand is more flexible because filtering can be done before NAT. IMO IPFW/natd and IPF/IPNAT are two different tools with ever so slightly different applications. Thats the beauty of FreeBSD: You have a choice of which tools in the FreeBSD toolbox you want to use to solve any particular problem. The fact that IP Filter lives in the contrib directory, just like all of the GPLed applications do, allows FreeBSD Inc. to keep truly base system code separate from contributed base code that does not integrate that well for various reasons (one reason being licensing). My vote is to keep IP Filter in the base system and failing that keep it as a port. As IP Filter does touch some code in /usr/sys, installing IP Filter separately can potentially break buildworld. Moving IP Filter to ports would increase the likelihood of consistent breakage when IP Filter is installed. As it stands now, with IP Filter in contrib and integrated into the system buildworld works and can be made to work by replacing contrib/ipfilter with the latest IP Filter and building world. This is very handy when maintaining multiple machines at separate customer sites where NFS and FTP of /usr/obj are not an option. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 8: 0:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dazed.slacker.com (dazed.slacker.com [64.81.115.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60A1D37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nugget@dazed.slacker.com) Received: (qmail 63310 invoked by uid 1000); 31 May 2001 15:00:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:00:45 -0500 From: David McNett To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends Message-ID: <20010531100045.B58004@dazed.slacker.com> References: <15124.4635.887375.682204@onceler.kciLink.com> <20010529145609.A1209@xor.obsecurity.org> <15124.7132.963202.560009@onceler.kciLink.com> <200105292211.f4TMBpB30316@earth.backplane.com> <20010529183239.B14308@psychotic.aberrant.org> <20010530211444.A40244@mail.webmonster.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010530211444.A40244@mail.webmonster.de>; from karsten@rohrbach.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:14:44PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386 X-Distributed: Join the Effort! http://www.distributed.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30-May-2001, Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > there are some real high-impact tweaks to be a little bit safer from > rootkits. one of them is mounting /tmp noexec. drawback: you got to > remount it exec for make installworld. An alternate approach (which I use) is: # make TMPDIR=3D/some/other/dir installworld --=20 ________________________________________________________________________ |David McNett |To ensure privacy and data integrity this message has| |nugget@slacker.com|been encrypted using dual rounds of ROT-13 encryption| |Austin, TX USA |Please encrypt all important correspondence with PGP!| --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://members.slacker.com/~nugget/ iD8DBQE7Flyds3nEpeQ8X8MRAh5rAKC0Q0mtQCYnRpML7K3E1Cp8TIV0+gCeJzpC m5BgCZiuLGAOTEWY+/LGiDc= =A/y8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/NkBOFFp2J2Af1nK-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 10:44: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498FF37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:44:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10561; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:43:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24364; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:43:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.33495.768885.911072@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:43:51 -0600 (MDT) To: Greg Lehey Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <20010531173602.B41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010531173602.B41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > > me. > > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested > > > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > The FreeBSD core team and Darren Reed have agreement in principle that > we can keep the sources in the source tree. We're still working on > the details, but the amount of attention this issue is getting is just > getting people needlessly upset. Is the license going to be modified to become a BSD-like license? This is the main sticking point I and others have, since otherwise the code as it currently sits in the FreeBSD tree is using a license that is more restrictive than both the BSD and GPL licenses. More information on this from -core and/or Darren would be helpful. The amount of attention that this is receiving is relevant to the amount of interest people have in making sure that FreeBSD uses software in the base system that has some semblance of being Open Source, which the current IPF code is not. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 10:46: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9258437B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10603; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:45:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24393; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:45:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.33612.92816.566001@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:45:48 -0600 (MDT) To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Greg Lehey , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <15126.33495.768885.911072@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010531173602.B41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15126.33495.768885.911072@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The FreeBSD core team and Darren Reed have agreement in principle that > > we can keep the sources in the source tree. We're still working on > > the details, but the amount of attention this issue is getting is just > > getting people needlessly upset. > > Is the license going to be modified to become a BSD-like license? This > is the main sticking point I and others have, since otherwise the code > as it currently sits in the FreeBSD tree is using a license that is more > restrictive than both the BSD and GPL licenses. > > More information on this from -core and/or Darren would be helpful. The > amount of attention that this is receiving is relevant to the amount of > interest people have in making sure that FreeBSD uses software in the > base system that has some semblance of being Open Source, which the > current IPF code is not. ps. Darren's intentions aside, the legal license as currently written is not commercial friendly in any shape or form. Darren may not care or enforce his license, but having recently had to go rounds with lawyers over the use of software with the BSD license, I can't even imagine the grief I would get in trying to explain to a lawyer that the author's intent is the same. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 11: 0:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (gibraltar.globalstar.com [207.88.248.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4F937B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@globalstar.com) Received: from globalstar.com ([207.88.153.184]) by nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GE7ONV00.02E; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3B1686B2.5693822B@globalstar.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:00:18 -0700 From: "Crist Clark" Organization: Globalstar LP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Pelleg Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remounts (was: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends) References: <20010531123020.6044537B422@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dan Pelleg wrote: > > "Karsten W. Rohrbach" wrote: > > there are some real high-impact tweaks to be a little bit safer from > > rootkits. one of them is mounting /tmp noexec. drawback: you got to > > remount it exec for make installworld. > > I always wondered... Why are remounts permitted in all securelevels? I > mean, in a locked-down system where it's acceptable to force a reboot in > order to upgrade (or run a rootkit), I should be able to enforce read-only > mounts. Currently anyone (well, root) can just mount -u -w them. > > Is this an implementation problem in mount(2)? (I haven't looked at the > code). Or is this going to break things for people (amd? in high > securelevels?). What am I missing? I wrote a very simple patch that disallows mount(2) calls at elevated securelevel some time ago. Check the -security archives for December or so. Also look for a long thread on the whole question of turning off mount(2) at high securelevel. As for breaking things, yes, it will. You cannot mount stuff. But that's the whole idea. ;) OK, found it in the archive, http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/freebsd-security/20001224.freebsd-security.html Look at the 'Read-Only Filesystems' thread. -- Crist J. Clark Network Security Engineer crist.clark@globalstar.com Globalstar, L.P. (408) 933-4387 FAX: (408) 933-4926 The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact postmaster@globalstar.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 11: 6:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CE837B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA12635 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:06:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:06:41 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: "make world" broken in kerberosIV Message-ID: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop> Reply-To: FreeBSD-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using the lastest cvsup (about 30 minutes old now), make world dies while building in kerberosIV. Several undefined references in sra.o (all to symbols beginning with "pam_") occur. This file is in ./kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/. jmc P.S. Something's screwy with sendmail, won't send through my remote smtp server to FreeBSD.org anymore. Bummer . . . :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 11: 7:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (gibraltar.globalstar.com [207.88.248.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B8837B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@globalstar.com) Received: from globalstar.com ([207.88.153.184]) by nsmail.corp.globalstar.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GE7OZB00.94E; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:06:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3B16884E.FC7A1E89@globalstar.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:07:10 -0700 From: "Crist Clark" Organization: Globalstar LP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Pelleg , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remounts (was: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends) References: <20010531123020.6044537B422@hub.freebsd.org> <3B1686B2.5693822B@globalstar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist Clark wrote: [snip] > OK, found it in the archive, > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/freebsd-security/20001224.freebsd-security.html > > Look at the 'Read-Only Filesystems' thread. Oops, the actual patch came shortly after, http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=31106+0+archive/2001/freebsd-security/20010114.freebsd-security And Dan, the 'REMOVE' in your 'From:' line is _really_ annoying. -- Crist J. Clark Network Security Engineer crist.clark@globalstar.com Globalstar, L.P. (408) 933-4387 FAX: (408) 933-4926 The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact postmaster@globalstar.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 12:14:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEDC37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B7A0678A5; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:14:24 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: "make world" broken in kerberosIV Message-ID: <20010531121424.I96927@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tctmm6wHVGT/P6vA" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop>; from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:06:41AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tctmm6wHVGT/P6vA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:06:41AM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > Using the lastest cvsup (about 30 minutes old now), make world dies > while building in kerberosIV. >=20 > Several undefined references in sra.o (all to symbols beginning with > "pam_") occur. This file is in ./kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/. If you're sure you cvsupped the kerberosIV code, this sounds like breakage..talk to nsayer@FreeBSD.org > jmc >=20 > P.S. Something's screwy with sendmail, won't send through my remote > smtp server to FreeBSD.org anymore. Bummer . . . :) Did you read the FAQ? Kris --tctmm6wHVGT/P6vA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FpgQWry0BWjoQKURAuD1AKD8S2EUAAsJe8IxYmh75kvCblyi/gCgsTyN S5MJmaxjrzfX8O8x04mjFAw= =Z7bP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tctmm6wHVGT/P6vA-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 12:27:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8476C37B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14625; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:27:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:27:02 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: "make world" broken in kerberosIV Message-ID: <20010531122702.G23522@johncoop> Reply-To: jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net References: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop> <20010531121424.I96927@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010531121424.I96927@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:14:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 30 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.05.31 12:14 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:06:41AM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper > wrote: > > Using the lastest cvsup (about 30 minutes old now), make world dies > > while building in kerberosIV. > > > > Several undefined references in sra.o (all to symbols beginning with > > "pam_") occur. This file is in ./kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/. > > If you're sure you cvsupped the kerberosIV code, this sounds like > breakage..talk to nsayer@FreeBSD.org > > > jmc > > > > P.S. Something's screwy with sendmail, won't send through my remote > > smtp server to FreeBSD.org anymore. Bummer . . . :) > > Did you read the FAQ? > > Kris > Yes. I haven't changed my configuration in several months (since I got it working). Just in the past few days though, FreeBSD.org won't accept my mail from Balsa if I send it through sendmail (but it works fine if I tell Balsa to send it direct to the remote smtp). jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 12:29:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.atabersk.de (yerowned.atabersk.de [212.34.96.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E4F37B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@atabersk.de) Received: (qmail 18474 invoked by uid 1000); 31 May 2001 19:29:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:29:46 +0200 From: Patrick Atamaniuk To: karsten@rohrbach.de Cc: Dan Pelleg , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remounts (was: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends) Message-ID: <20010531212946.B18049@mail.atabersk.de> References: <20010531123020.6044537B422@hub.freebsd.org> <3B1686B2.5693822B@globalstar.com> <3B16884E.FC7A1E89@globalstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B16884E.FC7A1E89@globalstar.com>; from crist.clark@globalstar.com on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:07:10AM -0700 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG almost identical code i am running on a firewall with no problems, only difference (besides no logging) is that unmount suffers from the same problem. beware, the diff is old, may not patch in easily. init(8) states : ... 2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not be opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or not. This level precludes tampering with filesystems by unmounting them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is multi-user. ... so i consider unmounting at securelevel 2 not being prohibited not as a bug but i disagree on the statement that this would be higly secure. I dont want to have my firewall filesystems unmounted, being read only or read write, from somewhere else than the local console. IMVHO the securelevel system is not generic enough, a capability system (i.e. kernel variables) defining what is allowed and what is forbidden with a freeze of this definition by raising the securelevel to 1 or higher could help out. (defaulting to current behaviour it most likely would not break anything) to the remarks from Crist (please follow link below): - controlling the mount in mount(2) in the kernel is the most generic place, there's no way around it. kern.securelevel is imvho not granular enough to end all this selfmade patches and featurerequests. - breaking stuff by raising the securelevel is the whole idea, i agree with Crist. - Brining fine grain and conditions into the game this will be much work. Allowing transitions from insecure to secure (remount ro) would go da'cor with the system immutable flag behaviour, but even that should be controllable (before raising the securelevel actually), since there may be conditions where i need my /usr fs readwrite to operate correctly. (not speaking of /var or others) anyhow, here (my old) patch including unmount. The interested reader may himself include logging of the event. ------ snip ----- --- kern/vfs_syscalls.c.orig Thu Sep 28 23:22:42 2000 +++ kern/vfs_syscalls.c Thu Sep 28 23:28:54 2000 @@ -120,6 +120,9 @@ struct nameidata nd; char fstypename[MFSNAMELEN]; + if (securelevel > 1) + return EPERM; + if (usermount == 0 && (error = suser(p))) return (error); /* @@ -410,6 +413,9 @@ struct mount *mp; int error; struct nameidata nd; + + if (securelevel > 1) + return EPERM; NDINIT(&nd, LOOKUP, FOLLOW | LOCKLEAF, UIO_USERSPACE, SCARG(uap, path), p); ------ snip ----- Crist Clark(crist.clark@globalstar.com)@2001.05.31 11:07:10 +0000: > Crist Clark wrote: > > [snip] > > Oops, the actual patch came shortly after, > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=31106+0+archive/2001/freebsd-security/20010114.freebsd-security > -- regards, Patrick ---------------------------------------------------- Patrick Atamaniuk patrick@atabersk.de ---------------------------------------------------- //my code breaks everything including your cat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 12:42:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266537B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:42:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D24C22B0F; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2B2113; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VJgU737484; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B169EA5.30205@quack.kfu.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:42:29 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010411 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Malone Cc: Willie Bollinger , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: encryption References: <20010531085921.A35603@account.abs.net> <20010531140724.A52119@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Malone wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:59:21AM -0400, Willie Bollinger wrote: > >> I recently installed 4.3 on a new box but it now seems that it is using >> md5 encryption instead of des, Is there an easy way to change this so when >> I move the password file off of the old machine that it will recognize the >> des passwords? > > > It should just work - it can tell from the format of the password > entry what type of password to use. I think he means for new accounts. I believe this is now in login.conf as the "passwd_format" item. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 13:29:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsmta03-svc.chello.nl (mail-out.chello.nl [213.46.240.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA3437B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ron@zappa.demon.nl) Received: from sonic ([213.93.216.127]) by amsmta03-svc.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.03.02.00 201-232-124 license f747fce8063b429e7fcd66ee14ce8c58) with SMTP id <20010531202853.IEPL5369.amsmta03-svc@sonic> for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:28:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c0ea10$671e7700$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> From: "Ron Klinkien" To: Subject: Unstable stable-release? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:29:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For the last few days my server is very unstable, it panics mostly when compiling kernel and/or world. I had also an fxp0 intel card added, but after reading about miibus problems, changed it to an xl0 type, it made no difference. I cvsupped/rebuild today (31 may) The last one is: savecore -N /kernel /var/crash savecore: reboot after panic: vm_page_insert: already inserted savecore: system went down at Thu May 31 22:10:20 2001 savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device (227514 available, need 297068) As you can see, I have to create some space before I can give more details... In the meantime can anyone give a pointer where to look? Still hardware or am I not the only one? Regards, Ron. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 13:38:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB69E37B42C for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:38:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16029; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:38:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:38:30 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Ron Klinkien Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unstable stable-release? Message-ID: <20010531133830.M23522@johncoop> Reply-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: <000701c0ea10$671e7700$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000701c0ea10$671e7700$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl>; from ron@zappa.demon.nl on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 13:29:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 38 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.05.31 13:29 Ron Klinkien wrote: > > For the last few days my server is very unstable, > it panics mostly when compiling kernel and/or world. > > I had also an fxp0 intel card added, but after reading about > miibus problems, changed it to an xl0 type, it made no difference. > > I cvsupped/rebuild today (31 may) > > The last one is: > > savecore -N /kernel /var/crash > savecore: reboot after panic: vm_page_insert: already inserted > savecore: system went down at Thu May 31 22:10:20 2001 > savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device (227514 available, > need > 297068) > > As you can see, I have to create some space before I can give more > details... > > In the meantime can anyone give a pointer where to look? > Still hardware or am I not the only one? > > Regards, > Ron. > I'm definitely no kernel expert, but in the past week or so I've had crashes updating/building ports with recent kernels. As an ad hoc solution (no guarantee it either: 1) points to the actual problem; or 2) really works), I've increased the size of PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (which appears to default to 200). This seems to have made the vm_page-related panics disappear, and also greatly improved the responsiveness of mozilla-0.9,1. But, most definitely, YMMV . . . jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 13:41:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [195.86.140.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B559A37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (boland@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4VKevn01271; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:40:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:40:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Michiel Boland To: Brian Dean Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DISKLESS does not work any more since update In-Reply-To: <20010513191912.B6619@vger.bsdhome.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 13 May 2001, Brian Dean wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:19:12 -0400 > From: Brian Dean > To: "Hartmann, O." > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: DISKLESS does not work any more since update > > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 08:28:21PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > > I switched back to the old rc.diskless-files and all things run all > > right. the problem seems to be MFS realted: the diskless system > > tries to do something in /var and so on but it cannot perform its > > task do a read only system. What happened? > > Yes, some changes were made. You now need to fully populate > /conf/default/etc with a copy of /etc. That should be the only thing > that should be required after mergemastering, everything else should > be backward compatible. So let me get this straight. After *every* mergemaster you should re-populate /conf/default/etc? Would it not be prudent to document this somewhere, like RELNOTES.TXT and/or UPDATING? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 13:43: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsmta06-svc.chello.nl (mail-out.chello.nl [213.46.240.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD2637B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ron@zappa.demon.nl) Received: from goblin ([213.93.216.127]) by amsmta06-svc.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.03.02.00 201-232-124 license f747fce8063b429e7fcd66ee14ce8c58) with SMTP id <20010531204438.VPPG22797.amsmta06-svc@goblin>; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:44:38 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c0ea12$30358a60$0304a8c0@smalweer.nl> From: "Ron Klinkien" To: "FreeBSD-STABLE" Cc: References: <000701c0ea10$671e7700$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010531133830.M23522@johncoop> Subject: Re: Unstable stable-release? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:42:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, will try that ( if i can compile the kernel before it panics that is..) Tomorrow I swap memory hardware, and maybe go back to 4.3-release to isolate the problem... Ron. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Merryweather Cooper" To: "Ron Klinkien" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Unstable stable-release? > On 2001.05.31 13:29 Ron Klinkien wrote: > > > > For the last few days my server is very unstable, > > it panics mostly when compiling kernel and/or world. > > > > I had also an fxp0 intel card added, but after reading about > > miibus problems, changed it to an xl0 type, it made no difference. > > > > I cvsupped/rebuild today (31 may) > > > > The last one is: > > > > savecore -N /kernel /var/crash > > savecore: reboot after panic: vm_page_insert: already inserted > > savecore: system went down at Thu May 31 22:10:20 2001 > > savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device (227514 available, > > need > > 297068) > > > > As you can see, I have to create some space before I can give more > > details... > > > > In the meantime can anyone give a pointer where to look? > > Still hardware or am I not the only one? > > > > Regards, > > Ron. > > > > I'm definitely no kernel expert, but in the past week or so I've had > crashes updating/building ports with recent kernels. As an ad hoc > solution (no guarantee it either: 1) points to the actual problem; or > 2) really works), I've increased the size of PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (which > appears to default to 200). This seems to have made the vm_page-related > panics disappear, and also greatly improved the responsiveness of > mozilla-0.9,1. But, most definitely, YMMV . . . > > jmc > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 13:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D2D37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16256; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:48:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:48:34 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Ron Klinkien Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unstable stable-release? Message-ID: <20010531134834.O23522@johncoop> Reply-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: <000701c0ea10$671e7700$0404a8c0@smalweer.nl> <20010531133830.M23522@johncoop> <000c01c0ea12$30358a60$0304a8c0@smalweer.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <000c01c0ea12$30358a60$0304a8c0@smalweer.nl>; from ron@zappa.demon.nl on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 13:42:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 66 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.05.31 13:42 Ron Klinkien wrote: > Thanks, will try that ( if i can compile the kernel before it panics > that > is..) > > Tomorrow I swap memory hardware, and maybe go back to 4.3-release to > isolate the problem... > > Ron. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Merryweather Cooper" > To: "Ron Klinkien" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:38 PM > Subject: Re: Unstable stable-release? > > > > On 2001.05.31 13:29 Ron Klinkien wrote: > > > > > > For the last few days my server is very unstable, > > > it panics mostly when compiling kernel and/or world. > > > > > > I had also an fxp0 intel card added, but after reading about > > > miibus problems, changed it to an xl0 type, it made no difference. > > > > > > I cvsupped/rebuild today (31 may) > > > > > > The last one is: > > > > > > savecore -N /kernel /var/crash > > > savecore: reboot after panic: vm_page_insert: already inserted > > > savecore: system went down at Thu May 31 22:10:20 2001 > > > savecore: no dump, not enough free space on device (227514 > available, > > > need > > > 297068) > > > > > > As you can see, I have to create some space before I can give more > > > details... > > > > > > In the meantime can anyone give a pointer where to look? > > > Still hardware or am I not the only one? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Ron. > > > > > > > I'm definitely no kernel expert, but in the past week or so I've had > > crashes updating/building ports with recent kernels. As an ad hoc > > solution (no guarantee it either: 1) points to the actual problem; > or > > 2) really works), I've increased the size of PMAP_SHPGPERPROC (which > > appears to default to 200). This seems to have made the > vm_page-related > > panics disappear, and also greatly improved the responsiveness of > > mozilla-0.9,1. But, most definitely, YMMV . . . > > > > jmc > > > > I was able to rebuild my kernel by forcing a boot to kernel.GENERIC, recompiling world and kernel under it, and rebooting. YMMV. jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 14:18:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EAD37B43E for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcus@miami.edu) Received: from jaguar.ir.miami.edu (jaguar.ir.miami.edu [129.171.32.10]) by jaguar.ir.miami.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #45575) with ESMTP id <0GE700HP5XV7P5@jaguar.ir.miami.edu> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:18:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Clarke Subject: Re: bad cookie In-reply-to: <20010530113647.E91086@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-X-Sender: To: Stijn Hoop Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get this message from time to time on my FreeBSD NFS client. I have a very similar setup to yours. I found that this message is ignorable, though not something to cheer about. Someone pointed out that it could be a bad NIC or bad network device. I'm running with a fxp on the client and a dc on the server. My switches are Linksys el cheapos. I also don't use quite so many options in my mount. I find I get away with the default NFSv3 UDP just fine. I get decent performance on my ports builds. Joe Clarke On Wed, 30 May 2001, Stijn Hoop wrote: > Hi, > > What should I do with the following kernel error messages: > > got bad cookie vp 0xd19d6bc0 bp 0xc61d72bc > got bad cookie vp 0xd1480180 bp 0xc616fbec > > After grepping the source, I discovered that this was an NFS problem > (it's not really obvious from the message, is it?). I have two > machines involved, no more, with > > server: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Mon Apr 23 13:04:32 CEST 2001 > > handstarted with > # /usr/sbin/portmap > # /sbin/mountd -r > # /sbin/nfsd -u -t -n 4 > > client: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed May 16 04:41:06 CEST 2001 > > handstarted with > # /sbin/nfsiod -n 4 > # sysctl -w vfs.nfs.access_cache_timeout=2 > > (both sequences taken from /etc/rc.network - no /etc/rc.d/nfs.sh start > unfortunately :( ) > > I then mounted with: > > mount -t nfs -o nfsv3,tcp,intr,rdirplus,-r=32768,-w=32768 server:/path /mnt > > Both machines have a 3com 905 ethernetcard (xl0), are on the same > 100mbit switch, and are running 100baseTX full duplex. The client is > a faster machine then the server however (P3-933 vs. P2-400). > Both machines are otherwise very lightly loaded. > > Should I loose some options? Should I disregard the message? I think I > get this message because I'm running an application that accesses > a lot of files in the same directory. Unfortunately, around the time > when this message occurs, the application also stops running, with > the job half done :( > > --Stijn > > -- > SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 14:23:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7851A37B424; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C5022B12; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ACA118; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VLNJ737708; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:23:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B16B647.8070403@quack.kfu.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:23:19 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010411 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net Cc: nsayer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "make world" still seems to be broken in kerberosIV--more details from latest build attempt References: <20010531141334.Q23522@johncoop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Merryweather wrote: [...] > > I don't see -lpam in there. So, I've checked the Makefiles you > referenced. -lpam is present in LDADD in the telnetd Makefile and in > the telnet Makefile. Weird! > > For completeness, the error messages that end the build are: > > cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS > -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet -DINET6 > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include -Wall > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include > -DBINDIR=\"/usr/bin\" -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/sbin\" > -DLIBEXECDIR=\"/usr/libexec\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o > telnetd global.o slc.o state.o sys_term.o telnetd.o termstat.o utility.o > authenc.o -lutil -ltermcap -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet > -ltelnet -lcrypto -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libkrb > -lkrb -lcrypt -lcom_err -lmp > /usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet/libtelnet.a(sra.o): > In function `check_user': > sra.o(.text+0xc5f): undefined reference to `pam_start' > sra.o(.text+0xc78): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > sra.o(.text+0xc9a): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' > sra.o(.text+0xcde): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' > sra.o(.text+0xd0c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > sra.o(.text+0xd60): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > sra.o(.text+0xd7f): undefined reference to `pam_end' > sra.o(.text+0xd98): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Script done on Thu May 31 13:51:53 2001 > > jmc > > My appologies for the long message. Aha! They need to be added to /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/Makefile and /usr/src/kerberosIV/usr.bin/telnet/Makefile if SRA is enabled. If you will please add an LDADD+= -lpam line in each of them and try it out I would appreciate it. If that fixes it, I will commit the fix. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 15:20:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C4537B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18446; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:20:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:20:00 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Nick Sayer Cc: jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net, nsayer@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: "make world" still seems to be broken in kerberosIV--more details from latest build attempt Message-ID: <20010531152000.S23522@johncoop> Reply-To: jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net References: <20010531141334.Q23522@johncoop> <3B16B647.8070403@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3B16B647.8070403@quack.kfu.com>; from nsayer@quack.kfu.com on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 14:23:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 74 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.05.31 14:23 Nick Sayer wrote: > John Merryweather wrote: > > [...] > > > > I don't see -lpam in there. So, I've checked the Makefiles you > > referenced. -lpam is present in LDADD in the telnetd Makefile and > in > > the telnet Makefile. Weird! > > > > For completeness, the error messages that end the build are: > > > > cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS > > -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION > > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet -DINET6 > > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include -Wall > > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include > > -DBINDIR=\"/usr/bin\" -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/sbin\" > > -DLIBEXECDIR=\"/usr/libexec\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > -o > > telnetd global.o slc.o state.o sys_term.o telnetd.o termstat.o > utility.o > > authenc.o -lutil -ltermcap -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet > > -ltelnet -lcrypto -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libkrb > > -lkrb -lcrypt -lcom_err -lmp > > /usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet/libtelnet.a(sra.o): > > In function `check_user': > > sra.o(.text+0xc5f): undefined reference to `pam_start' > > sra.o(.text+0xc78): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xc9a): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' > > sra.o(.text+0xcde): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' > > sra.o(.text+0xd0c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xd60): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xd7f): undefined reference to `pam_end' > > sra.o(.text+0xd98): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > Script done on Thu May 31 13:51:53 2001 > > > > jmc > > > > My appologies for the long message. > > Aha! They need to be added to > /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/Makefile and > /usr/src/kerberosIV/usr.bin/telnet/Makefile if SRA is enabled. > > If you will please add an LDADD+= -lpam line in each of them > and try it out I > would appreciate it. If that fixes it, I will commit the fix. > > I've added the two entries, and the "make world" build is currently running. Stay tuned . . . jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 15:23:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DBB37B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCB16ACBC; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:53:25 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:53:25 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Nate Williams Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well Message-ID: <20010601075325.L41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010531173602.B41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <15126.33495.768885.911072@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15126.33495.768885.911072@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:43:51AM -0600 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 31 May 2001 at 11:43:51 -0600, Nate Williams wrote: >>> It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to >>> me. >>> >>> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/28/1225224&mode=nested >>> >>> This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. >> >> The FreeBSD core team and Darren Reed have agreement in principle that >> we can keep the sources in the source tree. We're still working on >> the details, but the amount of attention this issue is getting is just >> getting people needlessly upset. > > Is the license going to be modified to become a BSD-like license? This > is the main sticking point I and others have, since otherwise the code > as it currently sits in the FreeBSD tree is using a license that is more > restrictive than both the BSD and GPL licenses. > > More information on this from -core and/or Darren would be helpful. The > amount of attention that this is receiving is relevant to the amount of > interest people have in making sure that FreeBSD uses software in the > base system that has some semblance of being Open Source, which the > current IPF code is not. These are the details we need to clarify. Be patient; we're not holding anything back, but it doesn't make much sense to give a blow-by-blow description when various people have already got upset. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 15:25: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jamus.xpert.com (jamus.xpert.com [199.203.132.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B150037B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roman@xpert.com) Received: from roman (helo=localhost) by jamus.xpert.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 155asi-00088K-00; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 01:25:28 +0300 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:25:28 +0300 (IDT) From: Roman Shterenzon To: Cc: Subject: /etc/defaults/rc.conf Message-ID: Organization: Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I've noticed that rfc1323 extensions are now on by default. I remember that when I had FreeBSD 4.1 and dialup via modem, I had tried to turn them on and it did some bad things to me. I don't remember what it was, but it was not tolerable. I can dig the archives and see what it was. Did something change in this field since 4.1-S ? Does it have any practical significance? Thank you in advance, P.S. I'll have to read http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1323.html I guess... --Roman Shterenzon, UNIX System Administrator and Consultant [ Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd., Herzlia, Israel. Tel: +972-9-9522361 ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 15:38:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdone.bsdwins.com (www.bsdwins.com [192.58.184.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7751437B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@bsdwins.com) Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bsdone.bsdwins.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f4VMb4697821; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:04 -0400 From: "John W. De Boskey" To: Nick Sayer Cc: jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net, nsayer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make world" still seems to be broken in kerberosIV--more details from latest build attempt Message-ID: <20010531183704.A97204@bsdwins.com> References: <20010531141334.Q23522@johncoop> <3B16B647.8070403@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B16B647.8070403@quack.kfu.com>; from nsayer@quack.kfu.com on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:23:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you Nick... that does the trick. This fixes the make release problem I've been having. The patch I used is at http://people.freebsd.org/~jwd/kerb.patch which adds -lpam as you suggested. -John ----- Nick Sayer's Original Message ----- > John Merryweather wrote: > > [...] > > > > I don't see -lpam in there. So, I've checked the Makefiles you > > referenced. -lpam is present in LDADD in the telnetd Makefile and in > > the telnet Makefile. Weird! > > > > For completeness, the error messages that end the build are: > > > > cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro -DLINEMODE -DUSE_TERMIO -DDIAGNOSTICS > > -DOLD_ENVIRON -DENV_HACK -DAUTHENTICATION -DENCRYPTION > > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../../crypto/telnet -DINET6 > > -I/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include -Wall > > -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../include > > -DBINDIR=\"/usr/bin\" -DSBINDIR=\"/usr/sbin\" > > -DLIBEXECDIR=\"/usr/libexec\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -o > > telnetd global.o slc.o state.o sys_term.o telnetd.o termstat.o utility.o > > authenc.o -lutil -ltermcap -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet > > -ltelnet -lcrypto -L/usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libkrb > > -lkrb -lcrypt -lcom_err -lmp > > /usr/obj/usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/../../lib/libtelnet/libtelnet.a(sra.o): > > In function `check_user': > > sra.o(.text+0xc5f): undefined reference to `pam_start' > > sra.o(.text+0xc78): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xc9a): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' > > sra.o(.text+0xcde): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' > > sra.o(.text+0xd0c): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xd60): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > sra.o(.text+0xd7f): undefined reference to `pam_end' > > sra.o(.text+0xd98): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop in /usr/src. > > > > Script done on Thu May 31 13:51:53 2001 > > > > jmc > > > > My appologies for the long message. > > Aha! They need to be added to > /usr/src/kerberosIV/libexec/telnetd/Makefile and > /usr/src/kerberosIV/usr.bin/telnet/Makefile if SRA is enabled. > > If you will please add an LDADD+= -lpam line in each of them and try it out I > would appreciate it. If that fixes it, I will commit the fix. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 16: 1:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0B437B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:01:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BBE22B15; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6150766; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VN1a738045; Thu, 31 May 2001 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B16CD4F.2070401@quack.kfu.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 16:01:35 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010411 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John W. De Boskey" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -stable make release failure References: <20010530221607.A84026@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John W. De Boskey wrote: [...] > sra.o(.text+0xc2f): undefined reference to `pam_start' [...] The fix for this was just committed. kerberosIV users should be able to build the world again after cvsup'ing the kerberos telnet and telnetd Makefiles. Sorry about this. telnet fixes are complicated by the multiple ways it can be built. :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:22:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from av.fks.lan (hh1125199.direcpc.com [206.71.125.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BD837B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by av.fks.lan (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f511Pi909653 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:25:45 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: av.fks.lan: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:25:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@av.fks.lan To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a DirecPC satellite link, which unfortunately forces me to use a Win98 box running Microsoft's Internet Connection Sharing to get the LAN online. Apparently Windows and Linux boxes are able to use ICS at full thruput (60 kbyte/sec and up) but my FreeBSD boxes can only get up to 25 or so steady-state, with an initial surge at the start. I've confirmed the behavior on two different FreeBSD systems (4.2-RELEASE and 4.3-RELEASE). The 4.2 box is triple boot, and both WinME and Linux on that system achieve full thruput. Presumably there's some difference in the packet flow among the platforms, anyone run into this problem before? - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:31:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFF437B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f511Uq778967; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106010130.f511Uq778967@earth.backplane.com> To: Greg Lehey Cc: Christoph Sold , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I'm not sure which system you're talking about here. We call it :IPFILTER in FreeBSD, and it's in the kernel source tree. If the worst :comes to the worst, we can move it to the ports, where you would be :correct, but I'm personally confident that we'll come to a :clarification which will leave it where it is. : :Greg I agree. I don't see a problem. It isn't the default, so the worst we should do is properly comment the kernel option in LINT so people who use it know where they stand. We (the FreeBSD crowd) pretty much give the original developers total control over the management of their work in our tree anyway so as long as Daren is still actively dealing with it, which Daren obviously is, there is no conflict with *US*. If someone outside of our control wants to mess with Daren's code I doubt it would be a big deal them getting Daren's permission. Like many authors, he just wants to make sure his code isn't abused. I had a similar clause in Diablo though I never expected anyone to take it seriously :-) I dunno if it is still there... when I gave Diablo over to openusenet.org I gave them permission to adjust the copyright appropriately. When Daren gets tired of doing ipf and moves onto his next best thing we can renegotiate the copyright to open it up entirely so others can take over management, or we can remove the code then. We certainly do not need to remove anything now. I consider it a learning experience for Daren and frankly can't imagine any outcome N years from now other then it opening up. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:36:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F9D37B631 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f511aUZ79086; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106010136.f511aUZ79086@earth.backplane.com> To: Mike Holling Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I've got a DirecPC satellite link, which unfortunately forces me to use a :Win98 box running Microsoft's Internet Connection Sharing to get the LAN :online. Apparently Windows and Linux boxes are able to use ICS at full :thruput (60 kbyte/sec and up) but my FreeBSD boxes can only get up to 25 :or so steady-state, with an initial surge at the start. I've confirmed :the behavior on two different FreeBSD systems (4.2-RELEASE and :4.3-RELEASE). The 4.2 box is triple boot, and both WinME and Linux on :that system achieve full thruput. Presumably there's some difference in :the packet flow among the platforms, anyone run into this problem before? : :- Mike Try increasing the TCP buffer sizes. That's the net.inet.tcp.sendspace and net.inet.tcp.recvspace sysctl's. Satellite links have huge latencies and can easily fill the 16K default tcp stream buffer size. Try bumping them up to 60000 and if that works you can try going even larger... e.g. 262144. Try 60000 first, if that works well stick with it because values >= 65536 require tcp window sizing to be supported and not all platforms implement it properly. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:36:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6E637B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 155dro-0007P6-00; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:36:44 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Mike Holling'" , Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:36:18 +1200 Message-ID: <02b601c0ea3b$41230cc0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: I've got a DirecPC satellite link, which unfortunately :: forces me to use a :: Win98 box running Microsoft's Internet Connection Sharing to :: get the LAN :: online. Apparently Windows and Linux boxes are able to use :: ICS at full :: thruput (60 kbyte/sec and up) but my FreeBSD boxes can only :: get up to 25 :: or so steady-state, with an initial surge at the start. :: I've confirmed :: the behavior on two different FreeBSD systems (4.2-RELEASE and :: 4.3-RELEASE). The 4.2 box is triple boot, and both WinME :: and Linux on :: that system achieve full thruput. Presumably there's some :: difference in :: the packet flow among the platforms, anyone run into this :: problem before? Have you tried turning on RFC 1323 extensions? Put: tcp_extensions="YES" into /etc/rc.conf. It should be enabled by default though. Check with sysctl -a | grep rfc1323 Another thing that might help with long delay connections is increasing the TCP send and receive buffers. The defaults are a bit small for fat pipe satellite connections: net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 16384 net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 16384 Try upping both to 65534 bytes (with sysctl -w) to see if it helps. -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 18:37:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD1B37B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f511bsu79154; Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:37:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106010137.f511bsu79154@earth.backplane.com> To: Matt Dillon Cc: Greg Lehey , Christoph Sold , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , "Valeriy E. Ushakov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de> <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200106010130.f511Uq778967@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (oops, Apologies for spelling Darren Daren instead of Darren!) -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 19:12: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E140B37B43C for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17437 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:11:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA26759; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:10:35 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106010210.MAA26759@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Who's HUPing my daemon? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 12:10:35 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to get a daemon running at boot time from rc.d. When the system boots, the script is run, the daemon is started, and all is fine. Then a few seconds later, (possibly at the same time that rc finishes and getty is launched), the daemon gets a SIGHUP and cleans itself up and exits. Running the start script by hand after logging in works and the daemon stays active more or less forever as you expect. Some hackery with ktrace shows that it is a SIGHUP that is killing it, and it is waiting in select() at the time (which is the expected state). The relevent code in main() is like this: if(makedaemon && fork()) exit(0); openlog("bpalogin",LOG_PID,LOG_DAEMON); I'm suspicious that just a plain fork() is not enough to disconnect from the boot sequence but I can't work out what's causing the HUP. Suggestions? (I suspect replacing the code with if (makedaemon) daemon(0,0); will fix it... bloody Linux hackers, no respect for real Unix!) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 19:33:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E74037B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 155ekc-000BNd-00; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:33:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Gregory Bond Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who's HUPing my daemon? In-Reply-To: <200106010210.MAA26759@lightning.itga.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Gregory Bond wrote: > I'm suspicious that just a plain fork() is not enough to disconnect from the > boot sequence but I can't work out what's causing the HUP. Suggestions? Probably. You need to detach from the terminal, or you'll get a HUP when the terminal session ends. If it is your code, you might want to catch HUP and do nothing. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 20:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C6F37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f513R0J04117 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:27:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3B170B84.557AB49@nisser.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 05:27:00 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eBOA - Programming the Web X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: why emacs not workee anymore? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did have a woring emacs installation. Last thing I remember installing was the Firebird port (do have full script logs of all installs). Since about then I get the following when attemping to run emacs: nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ emacs -nw /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ this looks like X. Yet -nw Tells Emacs not to use its special interface to X. If you use this switch when invoking Emacs from an xterm(1) window, display is done in that window. This must be the first option specified in the command line. Though I once installed KDE2 I only use this box with telnet sessions. Not even xterms, plain ol' telnet. So what gives? Anyone? Please? Roelof -- _______________________________________________________________________ eBOA® est. 1982 http://eBOA.com/ tel. +31-58-2123014 mailto:info@eBOA.com?subject=Information_request fax. +31-58-2160293 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 21:12: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D5F37B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC106ACBC; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:41:57 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:41:57 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: developers@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD Stable Users , FreeBSD current users Subject: The FreeBSD core team needs your help Message-ID: <20010601134157.A8251@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Those of you who have been following the mailing lists will have noticed (or participated in) a thread bemoaning the continued lack of feedback from the core team. That thread is still very active, but one suggestion (made by phk) was to send out a message asking for help getting things done. It's easy to claim that this would work, but first we need to know if anybody would be interested. Here's phk's text: HELP WANTED The FreeBSD core team is looking for an assistant to help with tracking and recording the issues being worked by core. Responsibilities: When a request or question is sent to core@ you reply with an acknowledgement that it has been received, and nag the core team until it has been decided on and replied to. It is also your responsibility to prepare a summary of core@'s businnes once per month and after cores approval of the text, to send this to developers@. This summary should be detailed enough to show the committers which core members participate in the core business and which don't. You will obviously gain insight into the work of and communications of the core team, but apart from the above mentioned summary, this information is of course strictly confidential. Working hours: All. Benefits: The FreeBSD project has a comprehensive benefits plan which you will take full advantage off. The benefits include: Lots and lots of email. birth control (you wont have time to spend with your SO), sunburn protection (you wont have time to spend away from the computer). Despite the appearances, this is not an official request for applicants. We just want to know who would be interested in doing such a thankless task, and whether it's worth core's time to discuss the exact terms of reference (does the person get elected, for example, or appointed?). If you're interested, it's your choice whether you copy -developers, though personally I'd prefer if you just replied to core@. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 21:43:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33D937B42C for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from DougBarton.net (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA92199; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:42:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Message-ID: <3B171D45.8F6FCF44@DougBarton.net> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:42:45 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michiel Boland Cc: Brian Dean , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DISKLESS does not work any more since update References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michiel Boland wrote: > > On Sun, 13 May 2001, Brian Dean wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:19:12 -0400 > > From: Brian Dean > > To: "Hartmann, O." > > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: DISKLESS does not work any more since update > > > > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 08:28:21PM +0200, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > > > > I switched back to the old rc.diskless-files and all things run all > > > right. the problem seems to be MFS realted: the diskless system > > > tries to do something in /var and so on but it cannot perform its > > > task do a read only system. What happened? > > > > Yes, some changes were made. You now need to fully populate > > /conf/default/etc with a copy of /etc. That should be the only thing > > that should be required after mergemastering, everything else should > > be backward compatible. > > So let me get this straight. After *every* mergemaster you should > re-populate /conf/default/etc? You could also run any recent mergemaster with a -D/conf/default/etc argument to do the update for you. To my limited knowledge, this would work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 21:54:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E1B37B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69BE7678A6; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:54:33 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Merryweather Cooper Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: "make world" broken in kerberosIV Message-ID: <20010531215433.A15069@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop> <20010531121424.I96927@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010531122702.G23522@johncoop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010531122702.G23522@johncoop>; from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:27:02PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:27:02PM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper wrote: > > Did you read the FAQ? > >=20 > > Kris > >=20 >=20 > Yes. >=20 > I haven't changed my configuration in several months (since I got it > working). Just in the past few days though, FreeBSD.org won't accept my > mail from Balsa if I send it through sendmail (but it works fine if I > tell Balsa to send it direct to the remote smtp). I repeat; did you read, analyse, and discount, the FAQ entry about this? Kris --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FyAIWry0BWjoQKURAkjoAKCFAldYhbrbe8xMvxRQ3tc2CjhfHgCg8xFZ QFoGGUSihl2i1G8+odZf4CQ= =Osme -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 21:56:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50DB37B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38E9B678A6; Thu, 31 May 2001 21:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:56:41 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Roman Shterenzon Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf Message-ID: <20010531215641.B15069@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from roman@xpert.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:25:28AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:25:28AM +0300, Roman Shterenzon wrote: > Hi, > I've noticed that rfc1323 extensions are now on by default. > I remember that when I had FreeBSD 4.1 and dialup via modem, I had tried > to turn them on and it did some bad things to me. I don't remember what it > was, but it was not tolerable. I can dig the archives and see what it > was. > Did something change in this field since 4.1-S ? > Does it have any practical significance? > Thank you in advance, >=20 > P.S. I'll have to read http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1323.html I guess... Linux has been doing it for a while; the only problem I remember was very old, broken TCP/IP stacks. A workaround for this has just been committed to -current, too, I think. Kris --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7FyCIWry0BWjoQKURAkffAJ9q5TKzh5C61QGMDNnjOsx8teTn5ACfVu4v b9lVXdDgZDwK6Uae6URgrPk= =eFYg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 22:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7BAD37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmcoopr@webmail.bmi.net) Received: from smtp.bmi.net (dsl-154.bmi.net [207.173.60.230]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28004; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:51:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:51:32 -0700 From: John Merryweather Cooper To: Kris Kennaway Cc: John Merryweather Cooper , Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: WAS Re: "make world" broken in kerberosIV--now it's sendmail and the FAQ Message-ID: <20010531225132.C14108@johncoop> Reply-To: FreeBSD-STABLE References: <20010531110641.E23522@johncoop> <20010531121424.I96927@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010531122702.G23522@johncoop> <20010531215433.A15069@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20010531215433.A15069@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 21:54:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.4 Lines: 34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001.05.31 21:54 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 12:27:02PM -0700, John Merryweather Cooper > wrote: > > > > Did you read the FAQ? > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > I haven't changed my configuration in several months (since I got it > > working). Just in the past few days though, FreeBSD.org won't > accept my > > mail from Balsa if I send it through sendmail (but it works fine if > I > > tell Balsa to send it direct to the remote smtp). > > I repeat; did you read, analyse, and discount, the FAQ entry about > this? > > Kris > Yes to all of above except "discount." :) I note only that everything worked perfectly until Tuesday of this week, and then "bang" sendmail works no more. At worst, only a minor irritation, since Balsa works fine bypassing sendmail and sending directly to my ISP. Since everything worked just fine, there was nothing to discount. Now, it works fine with a different configuration of Balsa (but not of sendmail, which is now bypassed). I'm sure there's a point in this, I'm just too dense to grasp it. :) jmc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 31 23:13:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.42.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C603A37B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@si.FreeBSD.org) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0753855404; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB38D55402; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:13:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:13:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-X-Sender: To: Mike Holling Cc: Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've got a DirecPC satellite link, which unfortunately forces me to use a > Win98 box running Microsoft's Internet Connection Sharing to get the LAN > online. Apparently Windows and Linux boxes are able to use ICS at full > thruput (60 kbyte/sec and up) but my FreeBSD boxes can only get up to 25 > or so steady-state, with an initial surge at the start. I've confirmed > the behavior on two different FreeBSD systems (4.2-RELEASE and > 4.3-RELEASE). The 4.2 box is triple boot, and both WinME and Linux on > that system achieve full thruput. Presumably there's some difference in > the packet flow among the platforms, anyone run into this problem before? Increase the TCP window size to at least the value that Windows has by default: sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65536 sysctl -a net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65536 You need a higher TCP windows size if you want to take full advantage of high latency links like satellite links. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 0: 5:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (fw-rl0.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D9D37B423; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5172n078103; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <200106010702.f5172n078103@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: ATA questions In-Reply-To: <20010531123124.A52552@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz> "from Cejka Rudolf at May 31, 2001 12:31:24 pm" To: Cejka Rudolf Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, sos@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Cejka Rudolf wrote: > > I have several questions about ATA interface: > > * Are there any plans to MFC atacontrol into -stable? It would be > really great to allow to set various PIO/DMA modes in -stable. Well, sortof, but it relies on infrastructure that is not in stable yet, and that will have to be done first. It is on my list, but since this is a spare time project I cannot say when it will be done. > * Is there any work or are there any plans to change write-cache and > queue-tagging settings from global to per-drive? We have a mix of > drives (Maxtor/IBM) in one box and it would be good to see write-cache > and queue-tagging enabled for IBM drive and both disabled for Maxtor > drive. Yes, this will become part of atacontrol soon (in -current that is). > * Is there any way to change transfer mode for ZIP drive from > PIO0 to PIO4 in -stable? Not without hacking the driver, but if the code finds that only PIO0 is valid, it probably is so ... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 0:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FFA37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f517Ck780822; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106010712.f517Ck780822@earth.backplane.com> To: Joe Clarke Cc: Stijn Hoop , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bad cookie References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :I get this message from time to time on my FreeBSD NFS client. I have a :very similar setup to yours. I found that this message is ignorable, :though not something to cheer about. Someone pointed out that it could be :a bad NIC or bad network device. I'm running with a fxp on the client and :a dc on the server. My switches are Linksys el cheapos. : :I also don't use quite so many options in my mount. I find I get away :with the default NFSv3 UDP just fine. I get decent performance on my :ports builds. : :Joe Clarke NFS clients use directory cookies to keep track of directory scans. If a directory changes out from under a client, then when it attempts to use a previously obtained cookie to continue a scan the NFS server may reply with a 'bad cookie' response. The error is not fatal, it simply causes the client to rescan the directory from the beginning to locate the pickup point. A bad cookie can occur if several hosts modify (create, delete, rename files) in the same directory while (or near the time of) an NFS client doing a directory scan, or if the client-side cookie caches times out in the middle of a directory scan (which can happen under heavy loads). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 3:35:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9501.mail.yahoo.com (web9501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20FAB37B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010601103509.9236.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.164.130.13] by web9501.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:35:09 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:35:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Angshuman Dasgupta Reply-To: angshumand@yahoo.com Subject: problem with chflags To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I'm relatively new to FreeBSD - though I've been handling Linux for 5 years now.... i am having a problem with the make installworld operation i get the following error - install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not permitted. Now, I figured that this is because the schg flag is set on this file. i tried to clear this flag , but i keep getting operation not permitted. So Now I'm left with a broken installation. did i do something stupid that caused this? How can I correct this? Thanks.... adg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 3:40:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from active.ath.cx (ras3-p6.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DBB37B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amir@boom.org.il) Received: by active.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03A176E796; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:40:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by active.ath.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAF26A9D0 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:40:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:40:49 +0300 (IDT) From: Amir Shalem X-X-Sender: To: Subject: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have recently upgraded to 4.3-STABLE (1.5.2001) I saw that time_t typedef was changed from long to int. in /sys/i386/include/ansi.h, #define _BSD_TIME_T_ int /* time()... */ it should be: #define _BSD_TIME_T_ long /* time()... */ thanks, Amir. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 3:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E943B37B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f51ApMr68494; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:51:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:51:22 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Amir Shalem Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Amir Shalem , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from amir@boom.org.il on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:40:49PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:40:49PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: > I have recently upgraded to 4.3-STABLE (1.5.2001) > I saw that time_t typedef was changed from > long to int. > in /sys/i386/include/ansi.h, > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ int /* time()... */ > it should be: > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ long /* time()... */ > Can you please elaborate why it's wrong? -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 3:53: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from beastie.saturn-tech.com (beastie.saturn-tech.com [207.229.19.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A58E37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by beastie.saturn-tech.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f51B57D79399; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:05:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) X-Authentication-Warning: beastie.saturn-tech.com: drussell owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:05:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-Reply-To: <20010601103509.9236.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > Hi... > I'm relatively new to FreeBSD - though I've been > handling Linux for 5 years now.... i am having a > problem with the make installworld operation ... > Now, I figured that this is because the schg flag is > set on this file. i tried to clear this flag , but i > keep getting operation not permitted. So Now I'm left > with a broken installation. did i do something stupid > that caused this? How can I correct this? Your securelevel is probably above 0. It just so happens there is a discussion of securelevels in the June Daemon News Answerman section. See http://www.daemonnews.org/200106/ Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4: 0: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (ha1.rdc2.bc.wave.home.com [24.2.10.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BF937B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cperciva@sfu.ca) Received: from cr263028-a.sfu.ca ([24.113.38.176]) by mail.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010601105954.ZMOC12644.mail.rdc2.bc.home.com@cr263028-a.sfu.ca>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:59:54 -0700 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.1.20010601035159.03d92508@popserver.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:59:30 -0700 To: angshumand@yahoo.com From: Colin Percival Subject: Re: problem with chflags Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010601103509.9236.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:35 AM 6/1/2001 -0700, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: >install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not >permitted. >Now, I figured that this is because the schg flag is >set on this file. i tried to clear this flag , but i >keep getting operation not permitted. So Now I'm left Well I'm just a clueless bumbling newbie myself, but since nobody else seems to have answered yet... it sounds to me like you're running at a positive securelevel. You probably want to edit rc.conf and reboot in order to set the securelevel back to zero, at which point you'll be able to proceed with the install. (Oh, and I wouldn't worry about having a broken install at this point; when this happened to me it was early enough in the install process that the system was quite capable of rebooting). Colin Percival To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4: 4: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [195.86.140.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD8637B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boland@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (boland@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51B3wE09499; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:03:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Michiel Boland To: Colin Percival Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.1.20010601035159.03d92508@popserver.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Colin Percival wrote: > Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 03:59:30 -0700 > From: Colin Percival > To: angshumand@yahoo.com > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: problem with chflags > > At 03:35 AM 6/1/2001 -0700, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > >install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not > >permitted. > >Now, I figured that this is because the schg flag is > >set on this file. i tried to clear this flag , but i > >keep getting operation not permitted. So Now I'm left > > Well I'm just a clueless bumbling newbie myself, but since nobody else > seems to have answered yet... it sounds to me like you're running at a > positive securelevel. You probably want to edit rc.conf and reboot in > order to set the securelevel back to zero, at which point you'll be able to > proceed with the install. No, you want to read /usr/src/UPDATING and boot into single-user mode before make installworld. Cheers Michiel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9506.mail.yahoo.com (web9506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0562B37B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010601111527.9002.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.164.130.13] by web9506.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:15:27 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:15:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Angshuman Dasgupta Reply-To: angshumand@yahoo.com Subject: Re: problem with chflags To: Michiel Boland Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got four replies to the original posting - I'm trying to reply to all here... I WAS running make installworld in singleuser mode I changed securelevel to 0 in rc.conf and rebooted - and it said RAISING kernel securelevel -1 -> 0 !! And after that (as well as before) I tried chflags noschg /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 and I'm consistently getting the same thing : operation not permitted. is there any way i can check what securelevel the kernel is running in? Can anyone tell me why this is happening, at securelevel 0? (apparently) --- Michiel Boland wrote: > > I'm relatively new to FreeBSD - though I've been > > handling Linux for 5 years now.... i am having a > > problem with the make installworld operation > > > > i get the following error - > > > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg > > libscrypt.so.2 /usr/lib > > install: /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2: Operation not > > permitted. > > You must boot into single-user mode and then run > make installworld. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:39:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from active.ath.cx (ras3-p6.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C269837B424; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amir@boom.org.il) Received: by active.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 17BE56E796; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:33 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by active.ath.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D6A6A9D0; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:33 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:33 +0300 (IDT) From: Amir Shalem X-X-Sender: To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng In-Reply-To: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG it was always long int, whenever you want to print time_t in programs it was always printf("%ld", (time_t)time); Amir. On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:40:49PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: > > I have recently upgraded to 4.3-STABLE (1.5.2001) > > I saw that time_t typedef was changed from > > long to int. > >in /sys/i386/include/ansi.h, > > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ int /* time()... */ > > it should be: > > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ long /* time()... */ > > > Can you please elaborate why it's wrong? > > > -- > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body ofthe message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:39:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yadt.co.uk (yadt.demon.co.uk [158.152.4.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 995F937B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davidt@yadt.co.uk) Received: (qmail 64170 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 11:38:59 -0000 Received: from gattaca.local.yadt.co.uk (HELO mail.gattaca.yadt.co.uk) (qmailr@10.0.0.2) by xfiles.yadt.co.uk with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 11:38:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 1591 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Jun 2001 11:39:14 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:39:14 +0100 From: David Taylor To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601123914.A1166@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Angshuman Dasgupta , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010601111527.9002.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601111527.9002.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com>; from angshumand@yahoo.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 04:15:27 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > I got four replies to the original posting - I'm > trying to reply to all here... > I WAS running make installworld in singleuser mode >=20 > I changed securelevel to 0 in rc.conf and rebooted - > and it said RAISING kernel securelevel -1 -> 0 !! Well, 0 is bigger than -1. That's unrelated to what the securelevel was the previous boot, which might have said 'raising kernel securelevel -1 -> 2'... > And after that (as well as before) I tried chflags > noschg /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 and I'm consistently > getting the same thing : operation not permitted. If you're in single user mode, you have remembered to mount /usr, and all the other partitions, rw? Type 'mount' and make sure it doesn't mention (read-only). =20 > is there any way i can check what securelevel the > kernel is running in? Can anyone tell me why this is > happening, at securelevel 0? (apparently) $ sysctl kern.securelevel will show you the securelevel. Presumably you are either: not root; or running with a readonly filesystem; or possibly, the /usr/lib directroy is schg too.... --=20 David Taylor davidt@yadt.co.uk --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE7F37ifIqKXSsJ/xERApsXAKC8+NjRWdqg+98RkZV43Nk473wxQgCY1HeF WPgC6vhRKFUFIWjaH6T7Aw== =JfAH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8A737B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f51Bj5H02268; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:45:05 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:45:05 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Amir Shalem Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <20010601144505.B72841@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Amir Shalem , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from amir@boom.org.il on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Fix the program. Having time_t of `long' was bogus. See commitlog for the reason. On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: > it was always long int, > whenever you want to print time_t > in programs it was always > printf("%ld", (time_t)time); > > Amir. > > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:40:49PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: > > > I have recently upgraded to 4.3-STABLE (1.5.2001) > > > I saw that time_t typedef was changed from > > > long to int. > > >in /sys/i386/include/ansi.h, > > > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ int /* time()... */ > > > it should be: > > > #define _BSD_TIME_T_ long /* time()... */ > > > > > Can you please elaborate why it's wrong? > > > > > > -- > > Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, > > ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, > > ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, > > +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body ofthe message > > > > -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:45:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9586237B422; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:45:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8547F675B2; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:45:26 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Amir Shalem Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from amir@boom.org.il on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: > it was always long int, > whenever you want to print time_t > in programs it was always > printf("%ld", (time_t)time); That cast is wrong; if you want to print a long, cast it to long. time_t is (was) only a long on the i386; on the alpha it was an int, and code which assumed it to be a long was unportable. It was changed to help catch exactly this kind of mistake. Kris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7F4BVWry0BWjoQKURAjbYAKCNQ+wFi/WEvA7eVO+yQ/S0zq/bYgCg/LeN 0EUXdszpaK6XVLEeKTAkBow= =vEWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9501.mail.yahoo.com (web9501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D333837B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010601114941.13870.qmail@web9501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.164.130.13] by web9501.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 04:49:41 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Angshuman Dasgupta Reply-To: angshumand@yahoo.com Subject: Re: problem with chflags To: David Taylor Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010601123914.A1166@gattaca.yadt.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oh OK - so that means that the default secure level is -1. I was root and the filesystem was rw.... I could change permissions on other files, in /usr/lib. I got it to work by disabling the kernel securelevel... maybe it's something I'm missing - But in any case - I got it to run now. Another problem I'm getting - when I start XF86Setup, I get KDENABIO failed and it exits. any clues on that? --- David Taylor wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > > I got four replies to the original posting - I'm > > trying to reply to all here... > > I WAS running make installworld in singleuser mode > > > > I changed securelevel to 0 in rc.conf and rebooted > - > > and it said RAISING kernel securelevel -1 -> 0 !! > > Well, 0 is bigger than -1. That's unrelated to what > the securelevel was the > previous boot, which might have said 'raising kernel > securelevel -1 -> 2'... > > > And after that (as well as before) I tried chflags > > noschg /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 and I'm > consistently > > getting the same thing : operation not permitted. > > If you're in single user mode, you have remembered > to mount /usr, and all > the other partitions, rw? Type 'mount' and make > sure it doesn't mention > (read-only). > > > is there any way i can check what securelevel the > > kernel is running in? Can anyone tell me why this > is > > happening, at securelevel 0? (apparently) > > $ sysctl kern.securelevel > > will show you the securelevel. > > Presumably you are either: not root; or running with > a readonly filesystem; > or possibly, the /usr/lib directroy is schg too.... > > -- > David Taylor > davidt@yadt.co.uk > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 4:59:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D10D37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 04:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a014.otenet.gr [212.205.215.14]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51BxDU14074; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:59:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f51BveG00296; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:57:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:57:40 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas X-X-Sender: To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Subject: Re: why emacs not workee anymore? In-Reply-To: <3B170B84.557AB49@nisser.com> Message-ID: <20010601145446.R269-100000@hades.hell.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Roelof Osinga wrote: > I did have a woring emacs installation. Last thing I remember installing > was the Firebird port (do have full script logs of all installs). Since > about then I get the following when attemping to run emacs: > > nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ emacs -nw > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found > nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ Your copy of Emacs is built with X11 support and it's linked to some of the X11 libraries. Although I suspect that Emacs is not the only port you will be having problems with, if your X11 libraries are not there, you can solve this specific problem by recompiling Emacs with WITHOUT_X11=yes. The Makefile at /usr/ports/editors/emacs20 of my recently CVSup'ed ports includes the following lines: .if !defined(WITHOUT_X11) CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-x-toolkit --with-pop USE_XLIB= yes .else CONFIGURE_ARGS= --with-x=no --with-pop .endif So if you rebuild Emacs with WITHOUT_X11=yes it will not use any X11 libraries and you will be able to run it in your telnet sessions with -nw option or not, without having ld-elf.so (the runtime linker) that it cannot find some of the libraries required by the binary (like it does now). --giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 5:22:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from psychotic.aberrant.org (psychotic.aberrant.org [64.81.134.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E7FA37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:22:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@psychotic.aberrant.org) Received: by psychotic.aberrant.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF5A672501; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:22:40 -0400 From: Seth To: Angshuman Dasgupta Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601082240.B19331@psychotic.aberrant.org> References: <20010601111527.9002.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601111527.9002.qmail@web9506.mail.yahoo.com>; from angshumand@yahoo.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 04:15:27AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 04:15:27AM -0700, Angshuman Dasgupta wrote: > I got four replies to the original posting - I'm > trying to reply to all here... > I WAS running make installworld in singleuser mode What were the steps you took to get to single-user mode? One way that works for me is to interrupt the boot process and type 'boot -s' at the prompt, then 'mount -a' after I've selected a shell. > > I changed securelevel to 0 in rc.conf and rebooted - > and it said RAISING kernel securelevel -1 -> 0 !! At this point, I think you're multi-user. I don't ever recall seeing the rc files processed in single-user mode. > is there any way i can check what securelevel the > kernel is running in? Can anyone tell me why this is > happening, at securelevel 0? (apparently) 'sysctl kern.securelevel' should do the trick. S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 5:33:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ntua.gr (achilles.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C21337B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 05:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from past@netmode.ntua.gr) Received: from netmode.ntua.gr (dolly.netmode.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.13.10]) by ntua.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51CXeR21252; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:33:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from past@localhost) by netmode.ntua.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f51CpAN48753; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:51:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from past) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:51:10 +0300 From: Panagiotis Astithas To: scanner@apricot.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with the new fxp(4) driver.. Message-ID: <20010601155110.B43525@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: past@netmode.ntua.gr References: <200105300802.f4U82Hn06027@matsubue.apricot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200105300802.f4U82Hn06027@matsubue.apricot.com>; from scanner@apricot.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:02:17AM -0700 X-Organizational-Unit: Network Management and Optimal Design Laboratory X-Organization: National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-450 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-452 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:02:17AM -0700, scanner@apricot.com wrote: > So it looks like support for the i82562ET vs. the i82555 is broken > in some fashion under 4.3-stable. I am experiencing the same problems in a machine that functions as a bridge. The machine has a fairly recent 4.3-STABLE and the integrated card occasionally prints "SCB timeout" messages. On the positive side, the machine recovers from this situation after a while. The situation was worse before I upgraded to 4.3-STABLE and I am still wondering whether it would make sense to backport the changes in version 1.113 of /sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c and vesrion 1.18 of /sys/dev/fxp/if_fxpvar.h. -past To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 6:24:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moriarity.grauel.com (moriarity.grauel.com [199.233.104.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B38F37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjk@grauel.com) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by moriarity.grauel.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f51DOcZ69783; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:24:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rjk) From: "Richard J. Kuhns" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15127.38806.45702.167471@moriarity.grauel.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:24:38 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with pcn driver on laptop, fresh -stable X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've just done a buildworld/installworld on my laptop for the first time since approx last November, with sources as of May 29. The builtin ethernet card (AMD PCnet/PCI 10/100BaseTX) now works only after a power cycle. Here's a dmesg after a power cycle (when it works): Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #3: Tue May 29 11:33:46 EST 2001 rjk@molap.grauel.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MOLAP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (601.37-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x681 Stepping = 1 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 127225856 (124244K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc035a000. Preloaded elf module "nfs.ko" at 0xc035a09c. Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc035a138. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1050-0x105f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 pcm0: port 0x1400-0x1403,0x1080-0x10bf mem 0xfc010000-0xfc017fff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcn0: port 0x10e0-0x10ff mem 0xfc018000-0xfc01801f irq 9 at device 11.0 on pci0 pcn0: Ethernet address: 00:90:f5:05:02:34 miibus0: on pcn0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto chip2: irq 3 at device 12.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x127a, dev=0x2015) at 13.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ad0: 11513MB [23392/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a and here's the relevant portion after a reboot: ... pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 pcm0: port 0x1400-0x1403,0x1080-0x10bf mem 0xfc010000-0xfc017fff irq 5 at device 9.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x1022, dev=0x2000) at 11.0 irq 9 chip2: irq 3 at device 12.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x127a, dev=0x2015) at 13.0 irq 11 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ... Thanks for any help... -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 6:50:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E62037B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f51Dmpc46396; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:48:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:48:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Lemon Message-Id: <200106011348.f51Dmpc46396@prism.flugsvamp.com> To: past@netmode.ntua.gr, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with the new fxp(4) driver.. X-Newsgroups: local.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:02:17AM -0700, scanner@apricot.com wrote: >> So it looks like support for the i82562ET vs. the i82555 is broken >> in some fashion under 4.3-stable. > >I am experiencing the same problems in a machine that functions as a >bridge. The machine has a fairly recent 4.3-STABLE and the integrated >card occasionally prints "SCB timeout" messages. On the positive side, >the machine recovers from this situation after a while. The situation >was worse before I upgraded to 4.3-STABLE and I am still wondering >whether it would make sense to backport the changes in version 1.113 >of /sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c and vesrion 1.18 of /sys/dev/fxp/if_fxpvar.h. It will not hurt, but while some users have reported success with this patch, it doesn't appear to solve the problem in 100% of the cases. I would suggest going ahead and applying those changes to see if it helps in your situation. In the meantime, I'm working on finding a real fix for the problem. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 7:16:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marci1.marcireau.fr (marci1.marcireau.fr [212.208.179.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE9537B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dom@u2france.com) Received: from pineau [212.208.179.135] by marci1.marcireau.fr (SMTPD32-6.06) id A3624DD014A; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:14:58 +0200 Message-ID: <013601c0eaa5$7b7eb9e0$2c000078@pineau> From: "Dom Pineau" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:16:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0133_01C0EAB6.3AA8EAB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C0EAB6.3AA8EAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C0EAB6.3AA8EAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0133_01C0EAB6.3AA8EAB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 10: 0:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E80A37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f51H0Pd60739 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:00:25 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601100025.C30589@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.0.25.1.20010601035159.03d92508@popserver.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from boland@carmel.diva.nl on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:03:57PM +0200 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:03:57PM +0200, Michiel Boland wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Colin Percival wrote: > > Well I'm just a clueless bumbling newbie myself, but since nobody else > > seems to have answered yet... it sounds to me like you're running at a > > positive securelevel. You probably want to edit rc.conf and reboot in > > order to set the securelevel back to zero, at which point you'll be able to > > proceed with the install. > > No, you want to read /usr/src/UPDATING and boot into single-user mode > before make installworld. a more complete reference on this topic can be found at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html it's a very thorough guide and even has some tips to help speed the build process. as i learned very quickly the first time i tried to 'make world', the directions in /usr/src/UPDATING are very general and leave out several important steps of the process. -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 10: 5:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C760637B422; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p0900.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.202.137]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f51H57N12919; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:05:07 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:54:13 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Greg Lehey Cc: developers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help Message-Id: <20010601175413.789e5313.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <20010601134157.A8251@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010601134157.A8251@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:41:57 +0930 Greg Lehey wrote: GL> When a request or question is sent to core@ you reply with an Could you stick some numbers in here please. How much email does core@ get ? What percentage of it (roughly) is handled immediately ? Order of magnitude thumb in the air numbers will do, just indicate the confidence level. GL> It is also your responsibility to prepare a summary of core@'s GL> businnes once per month and after cores approval of the text, to Based on the aforementioned email or is there more 'input' ? If so roughly how much ? GL> take full advantage off. The benefits include: Lots and lots of GL> email. birth control (you wont have time to spend with your SO), GL> sunburn protection (you wont have time to spend away from the GL> computer). I already have most of these benefits, a little more is probably OK. GL> example, or appointed?). If you're interested, it's your choice GL> whether you copy -developers, though personally I'd prefer if you just GL> replied to core@. I think others may be interested in the answers to these questions hence the crosspost, my apologies to any it annoys. -- Many have tried to formulate rules for software development, we are guided by the ways in which they fail to work. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 10:20:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.bsdhome.com (unknown [24.25.2.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6F537B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd@bsdhome.com) Received: from vger.bsdhome.com (jupiter [192.168.220.13]) by saturn.bsdhome.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51HKLC10727; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bsd@localhost) by vger.bsdhome.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f51HKGu37598; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:20:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bsd) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:20:16 -0400 From: Brian Dean To: Michiel Boland Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DISKLESS does not work any more since update Message-ID: <20010601132016.A18071@vger.bsdhome.com> References: <20010513191912.B6619@vger.bsdhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from boland@carmel.diva.nl on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:40:57PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:40:57PM +0200, Michiel Boland wrote: > So let me get this straight. After *every* mergemaster you should > re-populate /conf/default/etc? Correct. Something as simple as the following would be fine: (cd /etc && cp -Rp /etc/* /conf/default/etc) Or, as Doug mentioned, you can direct mergemaster to update that area directly. > Would it not be prudent to document this > somewhere, like RELNOTES.TXT and/or UPDATING? Yes. I've submitted a change request to update UPDATING. Warner requests that all changes go through him. -Brian -- Brian Dean bsd@FreeBSD.org bsd@bsdhome.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 10:54:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.noos.fr (lafontaine.noos.net [212.198.2.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8C137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joel.carnat@noos.fr) Received: (qmail 932524 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 2001 17:54:16 -0000 Received: from r201m67.cybercable.tm.fr (HELO atheria.ptiJo.fr) ([195.132.201.67]) (envelope-sender ) by lafontaine.noos.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Jun 2001 17:54:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:54:19 +0200 From: Joel CARNAT To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-Id: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.63 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 'lo folks :-) I'm using OpenBSD as my home gateway and I was wondering : is an OpenBSD box really safer than a FreeBSD one if your configure things (like inetd, ipf, ...) the same way ? if not, what's the point in using Open rather Free for a Gateway/Firewall/DNS cache/DHCPd ? thnX for answers === Joel CARNAT software is like sex : it's better when it's free :P To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 11: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (sword.cisco.com [161.44.208.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95F937B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjt@cisco.com) Received: from sjt-u10.cisco.com (sjt-u10.cisco.com [10.85.30.63]) by cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12459; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (sjt@localhost) by sjt-u10.cisco.com (8.8.5-Cisco.1/CISCO.WS.1.2) id OAA19302; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:06:05 -0400 From: Steve Tremblett To: Joel CARNAT Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-ID: <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr>; from joel.carnat@noos.fr on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 07:54:19PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +---- Joel CARNAT wrote: | 'lo folks :-) | | I'm using OpenBSD as my home gateway and I was wondering : | is an OpenBSD box really safer than a FreeBSD one if your configure things (like inetd, ipf, ...) the same way ? | | if not, what's the point in using Open rather Free for a Gateway/Firewall/DNS cache/DHCPd ? | Much of the software is common across the BSDs, but a distinguishing feature of OpenBSD is the attention to detail in the comprehensive source code audit. Then again, problems they find get implemented in other systems based on OpenBSD's suggestion... So I guess my post is pointless because my conclusion is "inconclusive" :) -- Steve Tremblett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 11:24:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC6C37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id LAA07127; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:24:17 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07125; Fri Jun 1 11:24:09 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f51IO4M19581; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdI19560; Fri Jun 1 11:23:22 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.4/8.9.1) id f51IMVZ03730; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106011822.f51IMVZ03730@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdfL3726; Fri Jun 1 11:22:15 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Steve Tremblett Cc: Joel CARNAT , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:06:05 EDT." <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:22:15 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com>, Steve Tremblett writes: > +---- Joel CARNAT wrote: > | 'lo folks :-) > | > | I'm using OpenBSD as my home gateway and I was wondering : > | is an OpenBSD box really safer than a FreeBSD one if your configure things > (like inetd, ipf, ...) the same way ? > | > | if not, what's the point in using Open rather Free for a Gateway/Firewall/D > NS cache/DHCPd ? > | > > Much of the software is common across the BSDs, but a distinguishing > feature of OpenBSD is the attention to detail in the comprehensive > source code audit. Then again, problems they find get implemented in > other systems based on OpenBSD's suggestion... > > So I guess my post is pointless because my conclusion is "inconclusive" > :) There was discussion on -security of a FreeBSD source code audit about one or two years ago. -- Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 11:35:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from av.fks.lan (hh1101066.direcpc.com [206.71.101.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A8A37B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:35:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by av.fks.lan (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51Ic2R11640; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:38:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: av.fks.lan: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:38:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@av.fks.lan To: Matt Dillon , Juha Saarinen , Blaz Zupan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS In-Reply-To: <200106010136.f511aUZ79086@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Try increasing the TCP buffer sizes. That's the net.inet.tcp.sendspace > and net.inet.tcp.recvspace sysctl's. Satellite links have huge > latencies and can easily fill the 16K default tcp stream buffer size. > Try bumping them up to 60000 and if that works you can try going even > larger... e.g. 262144. Try 60000 first, if that works well stick with > it because values >= 65536 require tcp window sizing to be supported > and not all platforms implement it properly. Upping sendspace and recvspace fixed the problem, I was able to get a file at 67Kbyte/sec which only came down at 25 before changing the values. 65535 seems to be a good value for both parameters. Enabling RFC 1323 extensions had a bad effect, after enabling extensions all my transfers would hang. Is there a place to put this in the FAQ? - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 11:39:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D455F37B423; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51Idbj86306; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:39:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Amir Shalem , Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: :> it was always long int, :> whenever you want to print time_t :> in programs it was always :> printf("%ld", (time_t)time); : :That cast is wrong; if you want to print a long, cast it to long. :time_t is (was) only a long on the i386; on the alpha it was an int, :and code which assumed it to be a long was unportable. It was changed :to help catch exactly this kind of mistake. : :Kris What, are you guys nuts? time_t is 64 bits on 64 bit platforms for everyone except us? We may be screwed for 32 bit platforms, but don't screw us on 64 bit platforms. time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... the alpha guys should change it if it is currently an int on Alpha. Please back out this commit. It is not appropriate to make time_t an 'int' on IA32. time_t has been 'long' from time immemorial. This is an unbelievably bad commit. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 12: 0:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castor.ssimicro.com (birch.ssimicro.com [199.247.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFE137B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmitry@ssimicro.com) Received: from 199.247.84.16 (84x16.ssimicro.com [199.247.84.16]) by castor.ssimicro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08355; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:59 -0600 From: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Blank: Reply-To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <149413595408.20010601130059@ssimicro.com> To: Matt Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: time_t definition is worng In-reply-To: <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Matt Dillon: > time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == > sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... I believe you are wrong. If it's "long" on both i386 and Alpha, data will not be binary compatible. In fact as far as I understand, the origin of this confusion is making sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) on i386, which is kind of a stretchy. Best regards, Dmitry Dvoinikov mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com Original message follows: > :On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:33PM +0300, Amir Shalem wrote: :>> it was always long int, :>> whenever you want to print time_t :>> in programs it was always :>> printf("%ld", (time_t)time); > : > :That cast is wrong; if you want to print a long, cast it to long. > :time_t is (was) only a long on the i386; on the alpha it was an int, > :and code which assumed it to be a long was unportable. It was changed > :to help catch exactly this kind of mistake. > : > :Kris > What, are you guys nuts? time_t is 64 bits on 64 bit platforms for > everyone except us? We may be screwed for 32 bit platforms, but don't > screw us on 64 bit platforms. > time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == > sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... > the alpha guys should change it if it is currently an int on Alpha. > Please back out this commit. It is not appropriate to make time_t > an 'int' on IA32. time_t has been 'long' from time immemorial. This > is an unbelievably bad commit. > -Matt > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 12:31:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D902537B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51JVjx87071; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106011931.f51JVjx87071@earth.backplane.com> To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: time_t definition is worng References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> <149413595408.20010601130059@ssimicro.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :> Matt Dillon: :> time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == :> sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... : :I believe you are wrong. If it's "long" on both i386 and Alpha, :data will not be binary compatible. The data *ISN'T* SUPPOSED TO BE BINARY COMPATIBLE! -Matt :In fact as far as I understand, the origin of this confusion :is making sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) on i386, which is kind of a stretchy. : :Best regards, :Dmitry Dvoinikov :mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13: 0:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5594037B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51K0RZ87585; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:00:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106012000.f51K0RZ87585@earth.backplane.com> To: Mike Holling Cc: Juha Saarinen , Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Upping sendspace and recvspace fixed the problem, I was able to get a file :at 67Kbyte/sec which only came down at 25 before changing the values. :65535 seems to be a good value for both parameters. Enabling RFC 1323 :extensions had a bad effect, after enabling extensions all my transfers :would hang. Is there a place to put this in the FAQ? : :- Mike I have a section in my 'tuning' man page though I don't explain the tcp window sizing stuff. Maybe I'll add that. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13: 7:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AF137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17049; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:06:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200106012006.NAA17049@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-Reply-To: <20010601100025.C30589@malkavian.org> from "brian j. peterson" at "Jun 1, 1 10:00:25 am" To: rbw@myplace.org (brian j. peterson) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:06:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, brian j. peterson wrote: > as i learned very quickly the first time i tried to 'make world', the > directions in /usr/src/UPDATING are very general and leave out several > important steps of the process. I'd bet Warner would appreciate patches to incorporate those important steps... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13:15:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70F837B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17134; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:15:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200106012015.NAA17134@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: time_t definition is worng In-Reply-To: <149413595408.20010601130059@ssimicro.com> from "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" at "Jun 1, 1 01:00:59 pm" To: dmitry@ssimicro.com Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:15:05 -0700 (MST) Cc: dillon@earth.backplane.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com Organization: DCF, Inc. X-O/S: FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE X-Unexpected: The Spanish Inquisition X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Dmitry V. Dvoinikov wrote: >> Matt Dillon: >> time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == >> sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... > > I believe you are wrong. If it's "long" on both i386 and Alpha, > data will not be binary compatible. > > In fact as far as I understand, the origin of this confusion > is making sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) on i386, which is kind of a stretchy. From the commit log: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= revision 1.25 date: 2001/05/18 01:43:25; author: obrien; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 Make _BSD_TIME_T_ (time_t) an `int' rather than `long'. This will help flag errors where programmers assume time_t is a long, which it is not on 64-bit platforms. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Well, time_t may or not be a "long", depending on your platform. But it sure as hell is 64-bits. Back out the revision. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13:39:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castor.ssimicro.com (birch.ssimicro.com [199.247.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB6A37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmitry@ssimicro.com) Received: from 199.247.84.16 (84x16.ssimicro.com [199.247.84.16]) by castor.ssimicro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18539; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:55 -0600 From: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Blank: Reply-To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14419530753.20010601143955@ssimicro.com> To: Matt Dillon Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[4]: time_t definition is worng In-reply-To: <200106011931.f51JVjx87071@earth.backplane.com> References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> <149413595408.20010601130059@ssimicro.com> <200106011931.f51JVjx87071@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Matt Dillon: > The data *ISN'T* SUPPOSED TO BE BINARY COMPATIBLE! Correct. But then there is no difference at all. You may typedef double time_t; :) And I can easily see where it can lead to bugs, pretty difficult to find. Therefore I'm still on the typedef int time_t; side. Best regards, Dmitry Dvoinikov mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com Original message follows: > : :>> Matt Dillon: :>> time_t should remain 'long' on IA32 (even though sizeof(int) == :>> sizeof(long) on IA32), and it damn well should be 'long' on Alpha ... > : > :I believe you are wrong. If it's "long" on both i386 and Alpha, > :data will not be binary compatible. > The data *ISN'T* SUPPOSED TO BE BINARY COMPATIBLE! > -Matt > :In fact as far as I understand, the origin of this confusion > :is making sizeof(int) == sizeof(long) on i386, which is kind of a stretchy. > : > :Best regards, > :Dmitry Dvoinikov > :mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13:52:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DA437B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:52:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51KqD019790; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f51KqBT29871; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:52:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106012052.f51KqBT29871@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: time_t definition is worng In-Reply-To: <200106012015.NAA17134@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200106012015.NAA17134@freeway.dcfinc.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200106012015.NAA17134@freeway.dcfinc.com>, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > From the commit log: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > revision 1.25 > date: 2001/05/18 01:43:25; author: obrien; state: Exp; lines: +2 -2 > Make _BSD_TIME_T_ (time_t) an `int' rather than `long'. This will help > flag errors where programmers assume time_t is a long, which it is not on > 64-bit platforms. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Well, time_t may or not be a "long", depending on your platform. But it > sure as hell is 64-bits. > > Back out the revision. No, time_t is and always has been 32 bits on all FreeBSD platforms. I agree with Matt that it would be nice if it were 64 bits at least on 64-bit platforms. Unfortunately, practically speaking it's too late to make that change now. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13:52:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [12.34.240.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCC537B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Antoine.Beaupre@ericsson.ca) Received: from mr7.exu.ericsson.se (mr7att.ericy.com [138.85.92.15]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51KqO827691 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:52:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noah.lmc.ericsson.se (noah.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.1.1]) by mr7.exu.ericsson.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51KqO913375 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:52:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se (lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.16.175]) by noah.lmc.ericsson.se (8.11.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id f51KqNG10734 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmc35.lmc.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:52:23 -0400 Received: from lmc.ericsson.se (lmcpc100455.pc.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.23.150]) by LMC37.lmc.ericsson.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id MCASJH6B; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:52:20 -0400 From: "Antoine Beaupre (LMC)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3B180082.B315A682@lmc.ericsson.se> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:52:18 -0400 Organization: LMC, Ericsson Research Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why not make leave it a long on alpha (and IA64) and make it a 'long long' on IA32 so that we get rid of the Y38 bug right now? ;) A. -- La sémantique est la gravité de l'abstraction. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 13:54:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61C237B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:54:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f51KsJM67669; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:54:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601135419.E30589@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org References: <20010601100025.C30589@malkavian.org> <200106012006.NAA17049@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106012006.NAA17049@freeway.dcfinc.com>; from chad@DCFinc.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:06:55PM -0700 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:06:55PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, brian j. peterson wrote: > > as i learned very quickly the first time i tried to 'make world', the > > directions in /usr/src/UPDATING are very general and leave out several > > important steps of the process. > > I'd bet Warner would appreciate patches to incorporate those > important steps... my main gripe with /usr/src/UPDATING (v 1.73.2.28 is the one i was using) is that it suggests that you may need to go to singler user and doesn't tell you what to do once there. for once, i decided to actually follow the directions that were given and i ended up with a system in single user with / mounted read-only and none of my other filesystems even mounted. luckily, i had a windows box next to me which allowed me to find the http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html page and figure out what to do. granted, i should probably have known how to deal with things in single user better than i did, but i figured the provided directions would be complete. based on what i know, the easiest way to fix these directions would be the following patch (again, this is against v 1.73.2.28 but should be easily modified for RELENG_4): % diff -u /usr/src/UPDATING.orig /usr/src/UPDATING --- /usr/src/UPDATING.orig Wed May 2 22:23:04 2001 +++ /usr/src/UPDATING Fri Jun 1 13:33:31 2001 @@ -229,7 +229,7 @@ make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE - reboot (in single user) [1] + shutdown (into single user) [1] make installworld mergemaster reboot @@ -239,9 +239,9 @@ installworld, however, system components may break and other oddities may happen. Don't do this on systems that aren't otherwise quiet as unpredictable results may happen. If in - doubt, reboot into single user. For remote installs, keep - a separate kernel around and use a serial console if at all - possible. + doubt, shutdown(8) into single user. For remote installs, + keep a separate kernel around and use a serial console if at + all possible. What follows are older entries for those people upgrading from earlier versions of -stable/-current. % correct me if i'm wrong, but shutdown(8) with no arguments should get the system into single user with all the filesystems still mounted and allow the 'make installworld' command to run without having to mess with mounting/remounting filesystems. the most recent /usr/src/UPDATING (v 1.154) doesn't seem to suffer from this problem since it doesn't mention single user at all. my (long-winded) two cents, brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14: 5:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CADC37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f51L5bJ25629; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:37 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601140537.A24948@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010601100025.C30589@malkavian.org> <200106012006.NAA17049@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20010601135419.E30589@malkavian.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601135419.E30589@malkavian.org>; from rbw@myplace.org on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:54:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:54:19PM -0700, brian j. peterson wrote: > correct me if i'm wrong, but shutdown(8) with no arguments should get the > system into single user with all the filesystems still mounted and allow > the 'make installworld' command to run without having to mess with > mounting/remounting filesystems. This will get you to single user but the reboot step is absolutly critical if you want you're system to complete the installworld every time. To do an installworld safely, you must be running a new kernel because the newly installed binaries may contain code that uses new kernel features. This won't happen every time, but it has happened in the past and UPDATING is generally supposed to be conservative. If we really need to support people who don't know what to do in single user mode, the correct thing is to add instructions to do: fsck -p mount -a after the reboot into single user mode. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GAOgXY6L6fI4GtQRAoBoAJ44X8UhUev5s8vBSfnTdK2c2V1eBgCeKo0L QSptcH55o7LwfD3n+0OqvTQ= =GIbI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (adsl-216-102-90-210.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [216.102.90.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3670B37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@bolingbroke.com) Received: from fremont.bolingbroke.com (fremont.bolingbroke.com [216.102.90.210]) by fremont.bolingbroke.com (Switch-2.1.0/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id f51L5is37173; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:05:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Bolingbroke To: Joel CARNAT Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? In-Reply-To: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OpenBSD is pretty much founded on the idea of a secure OS. Their development, their installation policies, etc, are all oriented to making OpenBSD as secure as possible. FreeBSD doesn't have the same single-minded focus, but that's not to say FreeBSD neglects security. On the contrary, there is an ongoing audit effort, that besides doing independent review, also incorporates security fixes from OpenBSD and elsewhere. If I wanted an absolutely secure gateway just for security, I would probably go with OpenBSD, because that's the focus. But for general usage, FreeBSD has more features, and still has enough of an effort on security concerns that I'm reasonably content with FreeBSD's security for general applications. Ken On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Joel CARNAT wrote: > 'lo folks :-) > > I'm using OpenBSD as my home gateway and I was wondering : > is an OpenBSD box really safer than a FreeBSD one if your configure things (like inetd, ipf, ...) the same way ? > > if not, what's the point in using Open rather Free for a Gateway/Firewall/DNS cache/DHCPd ? > > thnX for answers > > === > Joel CARNAT > > software is like sex : it's better when it's free :P > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14:11:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ECC37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51LAt388881; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106012110.f51LAt388881@earth.backplane.com> To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[4]: time_t definition is worng References: <20010601135122.A66182@sunbay.com> <20010601044526.A30739@xor.obsecurity.org> <200106011839.f51Idbj86306@earth.backplane.com> <149413595408.20010601130059@ssimicro.com> <200106011931.f51JVjx87071@earth.backplane.com> <14419530753.20010601143955@ssimicro.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :> Matt Dillon: :> The data *ISN'T* SUPPOSED TO BE BINARY COMPATIBLE! : :Correct. But then there is no difference at all. :You may typedef double time_t; :) : :And I can easily see where it can lead to bugs, :pretty difficult to find. Therefore I'm still on the :typedef int time_t; side. : :Best regards, :Dmitry Dvoinikov :mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com There is a difference. time_t is a long on just about every single system in existance except, as of a week or two ago, ours. What kind of bullshit is that? The nice thing about having time_t be a long is that it magically becomes 64 bits on nearly all 64 bit platforms (except our alpha port for some ungodly reason that I can't fathom). And now because somebody gets it into their head that this defacto standard for time_t somehow introduces bugs it is decided that we are going to go against the grain of every single other system in existance and turn our time_t to an int? I don't think so. It was treating time_t as an int that created the holy mess in the 16 bit PC world two decades ago, we are NOT revisiting that idiocy. Making it an int will potentially result in even more bugs being introduced then when it was a long. At least as a long people know it has to be treated 'special'. There is a huge amount of third party code that just assumes it is a long now and we shouldn't gratuitously start generating compile time warnings for said code. Our stupid change is not going to cause third party programmers to change their ways. This commit solves nothing yet creates the potential for a lot of confusion. This change should be backed out immediately. It was not well thought through and is totally inappropriate given how other systems handle time_t. time_t is too fragile to screw around with on an established platform, I don't know what you people were thinking. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14:13:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [209.145.65.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2A537B422; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:13:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51LDIw28978; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:13:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:13:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Matt Dillon Cc: Mike Smith , Subject: Re: adding "noschg" to ssh and friends In-Reply-To: <200105292342.f4TNgil32170@earth.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20010601170936.S23603-100000@lorax.ubergeeks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 29 May 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > > : > :> :Er, Matt. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but this argument is > :> :logically invalid. You could use it to argue that any security is a bad > :> :idea because it forces people to do sneakier things. > :> > :> I have to disagree. Here, let me give a contrasting example: > : > :You're missing the point. Stop arguing with me; I agree with you. I'm > :just telling you that the logic you're using to support your arguments is > :faulty, and the argument suffers as a result. 8) > > Well, then I'm not sure what you are complaining about. Somebody > labeled 'schg' as being a security feature, and I disagreed. It > could be called a safety feature, but it certainly is not a security > feature. > > -Matt Safety features can be used to implement security features. We schg /, /bin, /sbin, /usr/lib, etc. and most of /etc including the rc* files. The fact that it slows down our admins gives me some hope that in the even if an actual break in, the hacker would be to. No, the flags are not a substitute for other security practices, but it makes it harder to do certain things that hackers would like to do if given the chance. Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14:22:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F3B37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: (from rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f51LMHx68612; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:22:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:22:17 -0700 From: "brian j. peterson" To: Brooks Davis Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010601142217.F30589@malkavian.org> Mail-Followup-To: Brooks Davis , "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org References: <20010601100025.C30589@malkavian.org> <200106012006.NAA17049@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20010601135419.E30589@malkavian.org> <20010601140537.A24948@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601140537.A24948@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:05:37PM -0700 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:05:37PM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:54:19PM -0700, brian j. peterson wrote: > > correct me if i'm wrong, but shutdown(8) with no arguments should get the > > system into single user with all the filesystems still mounted and allow > > the 'make installworld' command to run without having to mess with > > mounting/remounting filesystems. > > This will get you to single user but the reboot step is absolutly > critical if you want you're system to complete the installworld every > time. To do an installworld safely, you must be running a new kernel > because the newly installed binaries may contain code that uses new > kernel features. This won't happen every time, but it has happened in > the past and UPDATING is generally supposed to be conservative. If we > really need to support people who don't know what to do in single user > mode, the correct thing is to add instructions to do: > > fsck -p > mount -a > > after the reboot into single user mode. that makes sense to me. (in my situation i had already rebooted with the new kernel when i had to dig myself out of the hole that was single user, so the point about a true reboot being necessary didn't really occur to me.) i'm obviously new to this, so i'll leave the actual change in methodology up to the experts. i just wanted to point out the problem i had and offer a potential fix. =) -brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 14:49:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9470137B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51LnI289480; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106012149.f51LnI289480@earth.backplane.com> To: John Polstra Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, chad@DCFinc.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: time_t definition is worng References: <200106012015.NAA17134@freeway.dcfinc.com> <200106012052.f51KqBT29871@vashon.polstra.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :No, time_t is and always has been 32 bits on all FreeBSD platforms. : :I agree with Matt that it would be nice if it were 64 bits at least on :64-bit platforms. Unfortunately, practically speaking it's too late :to make that change now. : :John :-- : John Polstra jdp@polstra.com Not being a user of the alpha port, I can't disagree. But if I were I would consider fixing the alpha port now and get it over with rather then later. time_t was one of the few things that transported naturally to 64 bit platforms, and yet it still managed to get fracked up in FreeBSD. This IA32 change from long to int only makes things even MORE fracked up then they already were and is a huge mistake. Rather then further break the IA32 port, if consistency is a goal then the alpha port should be fixed instead. But, at the very least, the IA32 commit should be backed out before it actually gets onto a CD. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15: 3:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drugs.dv.isc.org (drugs.dv.isc.org [130.155.191.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAA537B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Received: from nominum.com (localhost.dv.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) by drugs.dv.isc.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f51M0ov94668; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:00:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from marka@nominum.com) Message-Id: <200106012200.f51M0ov94668@drugs.dv.isc.org> To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: Brooks Davis , "Chad R. Larson" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org From: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:22:17 MST." <20010601142217.F30589@malkavian.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:00:50 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > fsck -p > > mount -a > > > > after the reboot into single user mode. And "adjkerntz -i" or else installworld will run with a different time to the one you are expecting it to if you use wallclock time. Mark -- Mark Andrews, Nominum Inc. 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15:21:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C082437B43C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D81D9673A5; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:21:05 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Steve Tremblett Cc: Joel CARNAT , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-ID: <20010601152105.A89287@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com>; from sjt@cisco.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:06:05PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:06:05PM -0400, Steve Tremblett wrote: > +---- Joel CARNAT wrote: > | 'lo folks :-) > |=20 > | I'm using OpenBSD as my home gateway and I was wondering : > | is an OpenBSD box really safer than a FreeBSD one if your configure thi= ngs (like inetd, ipf, ...) the same way ? > |=20 > | if not, what's the point in using Open rather Free for a Gateway/Firewa= ll/DNS cache/DHCPd ? > |=20 >=20 > Much of the software is common across the BSDs, but a distinguishing > feature of OpenBSD is the attention to detail in the comprehensive > source code audit. Then again, problems they find get implemented in > other systems based on OpenBSD's suggestion... And vice versa..it's not a one-way process (i.e. we've fixed quite a few things in our source code audit which they missed the first time around). Personally, I don't think there are major security reasons to choose one over the other. If you look at the advisory history of FreeBSD and OpenBSD over the past year or two, most of the serious problems have been shared by OpenBSD; OpenBSD has had serious problems not shared by FreeBSD; and FreeBSD has had serious problems not shared by OpenBSD. The "secure by default" thing isn't much of a difference any more; the major practical difference is that OpenBSD has turned off a few more inetd services than FreeBSD has. FreeBSD's source code has been fairly well audited, and we've made a lot of security fixes over the past few years, including fixes from OpenBSD. Bottom line is you should look at both systems and decide which you like better. Kris --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GBVQWry0BWjoQKURAiGBAKCoW+v7+da+9gHFeRWZsBVzt1IAmgCfTwHx YzQeQZpgGcAeVK2mpoQMn5w= =1d2v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15:29:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fjord.dignus.com (sdsl-66-80-58-206.dsl.lax.megapath.net [66.80.58.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEBE37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: from lakes.dignus.com (lakes.dignus.com [10.0.0.3]) by fjord.dignus.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51MTrf76590; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:29:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rivers@dignus.com) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.dignus.com (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA86897; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:31:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> To: dillon@earth.backplane.com, dmitry@ssimicro.com Subject: Re: Re[4]: time_t definition is worng Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200106012110.f51LAt388881@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll add to this discussion with a quick investigation of what other operating systems/C libraries do. First AIX - which seems to have the most complicated mechanism: They have (int inttypes.h) the following idea: /* These types provide variable size types that preserve source compatibility * for 32 and 64 bit application interfaces with int types in structures * that need to be 64 bits wide in 64 bit kernel and/or kernel extensions. */ #if defined(__64BIT_KERNEL) && defined(_KERNEL) typedef signed long int32long64_t; typedef unsigned long uint32long64_t; #else typedef signed int int32long64_t; typedef unsigned int uint32long64_t; #endif /* __64BIT_KERNEL && _KERNEL */ time_t on AIX is defined as an int32long64_t... Linux defines it as long int so, presumably on 64-bit linux, time_t is 64 bits. Systems/C mainframe C library simply defines it as long Solaris (version 5.7) defines it as: #ifndef _TIME_T #define _TIME_T typedef long time_t; /* time of day in seconds */ #endif /* _TIME_T */ So - I believe the weight of consensus is that time_t is 64-bits on 64-bit machines, and 32-bits on 32-bit machines. And, thus, for FreeBSD, should probably remain a long (IMHO.) - Dave Rivers - -- rivers@dignus.com Work: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe programming tools at http://www.dignus.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15:35:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5BB37B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from vpn5.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-4.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.4]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f51MYxg27357; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:34:43 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Thomas David Rivers , dillon@earth.backplane.com, dmitry@ssimicro.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[4]: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <25160000.991434881@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> References: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, June 01, 2001 18:31:34 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: +----- | So - I believe the weight of consensus is that time_t is | 64-bits on 64-bit machines, and 32-bits on 32-bit machines. | And, thus, for FreeBSD, should probably remain a long (IMHO.) +--->8 I've been leaning toward Matt Dillon's side of the debate, but I've just discovered a confounding datum: xiphoid:205 Z$ grep time_t /usr/include/sys/*.h | grep typedef /usr/include/sys/localedef.h:typedef struct _LC_time_t _LC_time_t; /usr/include/sys/types.h:typedef int time_t; xiphoid:206 Z$ uname -a OSF1 xiphoid V4.0 878 alpha alpha Something tells me this trumps the other arguments. (Sigh. Another reason for me to hate DECpaq.) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15:44:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE74837B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 155xeD-0008CA-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 10:44:01 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Matt Dillon'" , "'Mike Holling'" Cc: "'Blaz Zupan'" , Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:43:34 +1200 Message-ID: <049c01c0eaec$4a3c2150$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200106012000.f51K0RZ87585@earth.backplane.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: I have a section in my 'tuning' man page though I don't :: explain the :: tcp window sizing stuff. Maybe I'll add that. That would be good... errr... which "tuning" man page is that, btw? -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 15:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dargo.talarian.com (dargo.talarian.com [207.5.33.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8999937B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from moya.talarian.com (moya.talarian.com [10.4.10.8]) by dargo.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD39922B0F; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast.talarian.com (beast.talarian.com [10.4.10.6]) by moya.talarian.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF506105; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beast.talarian.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51Mnd741969; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B181C02.50009@quack.kfu.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:49:38 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010411 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" Cc: Thomas David Rivers , dillon@earth.backplane.com, dmitry@ssimicro.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng References: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> <25160000.991434881@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I never understood why it isn't at _least_ made unsigned. This at least puts off the 2038 issue until 2106. I may live to see the former, but certainly not the latter. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16: 0:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC11137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f51N0VT90830; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106012300.f51N0VT90830@earth.backplane.com> To: Nick Sayer Cc: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" , Thomas David Rivers , dmitry@ssimicro.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng References: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> <25160000.991434881@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> <3B181C02.50009@quack.kfu.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :I never understood why it isn't at _least_ made unsigned. This at least :puts off the 2038 issue until 2106. I may live to see the former, but :certainly not the latter. :-) Historically people compared time stamps by subtracting one from another. If they are unsigned, that breaks horribly (you never get a negative result). Internally there is nothing preventing us from treating time_t as an unsigned, er, long. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:18:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEF037B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f51NI8w38590 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200106012318.f51NI8w38590@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng In-Reply-To: <200106012300.f51N0VT90830@earth.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) >From: Matt Dillon >:I never understood why it isn't at _least_ made unsigned. This at least >:puts off the 2038 issue until 2106. I may live to see the former, but >:certainly not the latter. :-) > Historically people compared time stamps by subtracting one from > another. Which is a practice that the difftime() function was invented to replace. > If they are unsigned, that breaks horribly (you never get > a negative result). Ummm. With respect, I think the excerpt from "man 3 time" that reads: Upon successful completion, time() returns the value of time. Otherwise a value of ((time_t) -1) is returned and the global variable errno is set to indicate the error. is probably a more significant restriction: both could be gotten around if time_t were unsigned, but in the mean time (no pun intended!), I suspect that a lot of naively-coded applications would break mysteriously. > Internally there is nothing preventing us from > treating time_t as an unsigned, er, long. Well, I don't write much code (and never have written a lot of it), so please feel free to take what I wrote with an appropriately-sized "grain of salt". But it may be worth noting (iin this context) that the result of difftime() is a double. :-} Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:29: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD1137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1DD195D3B; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:31:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:31:06 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Mike Holling Cc: Matt Dillon , Juha Saarinen , Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Message-ID: <20010602013105.B30539@skriver.dk> References: <200106010136.f511aUZ79086@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from myke@ees.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:38:01PM -0600 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B88 9CE8 66E9 E631 C9C5 5EB4 22AB F0EC F956 1C31 X-PGP-Public-Key: http://freesbee.wheel.dk/~jesper/gpgkey.pub Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:38:01PM -0600, Mike Holling wrote: > > Try increasing the TCP buffer sizes. That's the net.inet.tcp.sendspace > > and net.inet.tcp.recvspace sysctl's. Satellite links have huge > > latencies and can easily fill the 16K default tcp stream buffer size. > > Try bumping them up to 60000 and if that works you can try going even > > larger... e.g. 262144. Try 60000 first, if that works well stick with > > it because values >= 65536 require tcp window sizing to be supported > > and not all platforms implement it properly. > > Upping sendspace and recvspace fixed the problem, I was able to get a file > at 67Kbyte/sec which only came down at 25 before changing the values. > 65535 seems to be a good value for both parameters. Enabling RFC 1323 > extensions had a bad effect, after enabling extensions all my transfers > would hang. Is there a place to put this in the FAQ? Could you give examples of what you did with rfc1323 extensions, just enabled it in /etc/rc.conf, without touching the send/recieve buffers, or ? Could you also please give a example of a site that you would get hanging connections to ? What do you mean with hanging connections ? /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.netline.it (linux.netline.it [194.20.203.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5F9137B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paolo@linux.netline.it) Received: (qmail 1868 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Jun 2001 23:41:33 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:41:33 +0200 From: Paolo Losi To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make release: X11 missing? Message-ID: <20010602014133.A1860@linux.netline.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, I've successfully done a "make releasei NOPORTS=yes". But the layout is missing X11 tarballs. What is the right way to add X11 tarballs to the "make release" layout in order to obtain the "official" layout without compiled ports? Thanks Paolo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:43:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c0039.upc-c.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB3137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51NhLJ07235; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:43:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3B182899.C95C4594@nisser.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:43:21 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eBOA - Programming the Web X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why emacs not workee anymore? References: <20010601145446.R269-100000@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Roelof Osinga wrote: > > >... > > nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ emacs -nw > > /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libXaw.so.6" not found > > So if you rebuild Emacs with WITHOUT_X11=yes it will not use any X11 libraries > and you will be able to run it in your telnet sessions with -nw option or not, > without having ld-elf.so (the runtime linker) that it cannot find some of the > libraries required by the binary (like it does now). Which is the same advice Robert gave. I know I can build it without X11 support. But I never do . Mostly because at times I use it in a X11 session. Here is a snippet from the script log and a ls output: What window system should Emacs use? x11 What toolkit should Emacs use? LUCID Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib creating ... creating src/Makefile ===> Building for emacs-20.7 /bin/rm -rf /usr/ports/editors/emacs20/work/emacs-20.7/info/* [1]+ Stopped less /root/logs/ports/emacs20 nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/*Xaw* /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.a /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6* /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so@ The libs are present when needed. This emacs has worked with a telnet session as its sibling does right now through a ssh session. Hey! In fact ... nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak$ ps ax|grep emacs 45446 p0 T 0:02.62 emacs -nw db.nisser nisser:/home/eboa/www/Slak/Flash/2001$ And indeed, I found it! I still had, well... have, an emacs session running in a telnet session (local box). Which changes the question to how does that session preclude others from running? Bummer. I just closed all files and exited that job. Now I can no longer get it to run. Back to square one. What causes this or how to find out? What info must I post? What not. Wiped box, fresh install, still shining... though it looses some of its sparkle . Roelof -- _______________________________________________________________________ eBOA® est. 1982 http://eBOA.com/ tel. +31-58-2123014 mailto:info@eBOA.com?subject=Information_request fax. +31-58-2160293 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from globalrelay.com (h216-18-71-77.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [216.18.71.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2963637B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lists@globalrelay.net) Received: from [10.2.0.6] (HELO hpvl4002) by globalrelay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b7) with SMTP id 484796 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 16:45:17 -0700 Message-ID: <038c01c0eaf4$e92cc8c0$0600020a@frontend> From: "Eric Parusel" To: Subject: loadavg value was wrong Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:45:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I'm posting this on the wrong list, tell me :) Twice today I've had this problem, and it's "weirding" me out... On two servers, both with a load average of normally 0.01, all of a sudden got load averages of 1.1...! I did a ps, top, and there were no processes that could account the high loadavg... I mounted a read-only floppy with "ps" and other tools on it, (you never know) and still didn't find anything that was using up any more than 5% cpu... The load average stayed up consistently only until I (I didn't try other load-generating things) uploaded a 20 meg file through SFTP. (this worked on both servers) Once I did that on both servers, the load average promptly dropped back down to 0.01...! Any explanations? If it happens again, is there something I should check/do? On these two servers I'm running FreeBSD 4.3-RC0 (Apr. 11th), and FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE (May 8th)... Eric Parusel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maile.telia.com (maile.telia.com [194.22.190.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C18B37B43C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maile.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f51No2012459 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:50:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA00550 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:50:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 12782 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Jun 2001 23:49:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:49:46 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Message-ID: <20010602014946.A12761@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200106012000.f51K0RZ87585@earth.backplane.com> <049c01c0eaec$4a3c2150$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <049c01c0eaec$4a3c2150$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 10:43:34AM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 10:43:34AM +1200, Juha Saarinen wrote: > :: I have a section in my 'tuning' man page though I don't > :: explain the > :: tcp window sizing stuff. Maybe I'll add that. > > That would be good... errr... which "tuning" man page is that, btw? > The one you get if you type 'man 7 tuning' in a recent 4.3-stable system presumably. (I think it was committed about a week ago.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:52:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F3337B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA71514; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:51:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:51:06 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: best softupdates/wc combination for laptop Message-ID: <20010601195106.A71406@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20010530111716.A52805@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010530111716.A52805@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:17:16AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 11:17:16AM +0100, j mckitrick wrote: > > What would be the best combination of softupdates and write caching for > laptop use? It depends on your system stability. Some of us who should know better do stupid things with our laptops. These stupid things can crash the system. My laptop's write caching is off, because I am a damn fool. If you're a user who doesn't want to see just how many different sorts of bullets you can put in your foot, write caching is just fine. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:57:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274E137B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 155yn0-0008FL-01; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:57:10 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Mike Holling'" , "'Matt Dillon'" , "'Blaz Zupan'" Cc: Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:56:42 +1200 Message-ID: <04f901c0eaf6$8206c4f0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: Upping sendspace and recvspace fixed the problem, I was able :: to get a file :: at 67Kbyte/sec which only came down at 25 before changing :: the values. :: 65535 seems to be a good value for both parameters. :: Enabling RFC 1323 :: extensions had a bad effect, after enabling extensions all :: my transfers :: would hang. Is there a place to put this in the FAQ? I can't think of why it would do that -- you would need to run a tcpdump on the satellite interface to see what's going on. If you keep the buffers at or below 64KB, you shouldn't hit problems with other hosts... is this for all your connections, or is it with a particular connection? -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 16:57:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD0037B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 155ymz-0008FL-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:57:09 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Erik Trulsson'" , Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:56:42 +1200 Message-ID: <04f701c0eaf6$81d2e3b0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010602014946.A12761@student.uu.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: The one you get if you type 'man 7 tuning' in a recent 4.3-stable :: system presumably. (I think it was committed about a week ago.) ?? $ man 7 tuning No entry for tuning in section 7 of the manual $ uname -a FreeBSD lists.idg.co.nz 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Wed May 2 11:45:51 NZST 2001 root@lists.idg.co.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/LISTS i386 Am I missing something as usual? Oh hang on, are you saying that tuning thing was added only a week ago? Is there a way (I'm sure there must be) to add it without a build/installworld? (Slow box here.) -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 17:25: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6602737B43C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 62782 invoked by uid 100); 2 Jun 2001 00:25:04 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15128.12896.422114.257377@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:25:04 -0500 To: "Juha Saarinen" Cc: Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS In-Reply-To: <04f701c0eaf6$81d2e3b0$0a01a8c0@den2> References: <20010602014946.A12761@student.uu.se> <04f701c0eaf6$81d2e3b0$0a01a8c0@den2> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Juha Saarinen types: > Am I missing something as usual? Oh hang on, are you saying that tuning > thing was added only a week ago? Is there a way (I'm sure there must be) > to add it without a build/installworld? (Slow box here.) If you've since it was installed: # cd /usr/src/share/man/man7 # make # make install The first make should tell you what's changed since you last did a buildworld. The second one will install those files so man can find them. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 17:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479AA37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 155zHC-0008HO-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:28:22 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'Mike Meyer'" Cc: Subject: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:27:54 +1200 Message-ID: <051801c0eafa$ddaa6830$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <15128.12896.422114.257377@guru.mired.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: If you've since it was installed: :: :: # cd /usr/src/share/man/man7 :: # make :: # make install :: :: The first make should tell you what's changed since you last did a :: buildworld. The second one will install those files so man can find :: them. Thanks. I've got the man page now, but the warning below is a bit confusing, isn't it? $ make Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/share/man/man7 gzip -cn ascii.7 > ascii.7.gz gzip -cn clocks.7 > clocks.7.gz gzip -cn environ.7 > environ.7.gz gzip -cn hier.7 > hier.7.gz gzip -cn hostname.7 > hostname.7.gz gzip -cn intro.7 > intro.7.gz gzip -cn mailaddr.7 > mailaddr.7.gz gzip -cn operator.7 > operator.7.gz gzip -cn ports.7 > ports.7.gz gzip -cn security.7 > security.7.gz gzip -cn tuning.7 > tuning.7.gz gzip -cn firewall.7 > firewall.7.gz gzip -cn style.perl.7 > style.perl.7.gz -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 17:52:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68B537B423; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749C86ACBE; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:22:40 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:22:40 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve O'Hara-Smith Cc: developers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help Message-ID: <20010602102240.L36627@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010601134157.A8251@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010601175413.789e5313.steveo@eircom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010601175413.789e5313.steveo@eircom.net>; from steveo@eircom.net on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 05:54:13PM +0200 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 1 June 2001 at 17:54:13 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:41:57 +0930 > Greg Lehey wrote: > > > GL> When a request or question is sent to core@ you reply with an > > Could you stick some numbers in here please. How much email does > core@ get ? Normally much less than 10 messages a day. > What percentage of it (roughly) is handled immediately ? Currently, almost none. The thing is that we currently all need to respond, and that takes time; thus the one week rule. Since jkh's suggestion a couple of days ago, we're taking this rule less seriously and getting things done more quickly. > GL> It is also your responsibility to prepare a summary of core@'s > GL> businnes once per month and after cores approval of the text, to > > Based on the aforementioned email or is there more 'input' ? If > so roughly how much ? With very few exceptions it's all email. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 20: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.rdc1.on.home.com (femail4.rdc1.on.home.com [24.2.9.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EE437B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjm88@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.114.151.37]) by femail4.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010602030554.DRMZ10025.femail4.rdc1.on.home.com@home.com>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:05:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3B1858C7.2C9D8597@home.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:08:55 -0400 From: cjm88@home.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,fr,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juan Jose Garcia Ripoll Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP lockups with 4.3 References: <87k838njdf.fsf@mobile-ripoll.arrakis.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You say 'dual PIII/700' but dmesg sees '735Mhz'... could you be inadvertently over clocked? C Juan Jose Garcia Ripoll wrote: > Hi, > > I have upgraded two machines from 4.2 to 4.3 using cvsup. The first > one is the laptop I am writing on, and it works ok; the second one is > a dual PIII/700 with a MS motherbard. > > It is this second machine the one which experiences lockups with a 4.3 > SMP kernel as cvsuped last week. Booting with a single processor 4.2 > kernel solves the problem. The machine is almost bare bones, with > apache and qpopper, and since everything works with 4.2 I suspect the > problem is related to a change in the SMP kernel. > > As a side note, the same machine worked ok with Debian using a SMP > linux kernel. I just replaced it with FreeBSD because I find the > latter easier to maintain. > > The output of dmesg with the 4.2 is below, together with one of the > 4.3 kernels I have tried. What do you think I should do now? > > TIA > > Juanjo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: DMESG.TXT > DMESG.TXT Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Name: KERNEL.CFG > KERNEL.CFG Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: quoted-printable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 20:17:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE0B37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id xqkbaaaa for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:16:53 +1000 Message-ID: <3B185B48.C56DF742@quake.com.au> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 13:19:36 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Steve Tremblett , Joel CARNAT , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> <20010601152105.A89287@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Personally, I don't think there are major security reasons to choose > one over the other. If you look at the advisory history of FreeBSD > and OpenBSD over the past year or two, most of the serious problems > have been shared by OpenBSD; OpenBSD has had serious problems not > shared by FreeBSD; and FreeBSD has had serious problems not shared by > OpenBSD. > > FreeBSD's source code has been fairly well audited, and we've made a > lot of security fixes over the past few years, including fixes from > OpenBSD. I have found FreeBSD to be fairly good with security, and I like it better than OpenBSD for many other reasons... The only problem seems that sometimes security advisories via the announce list come later than for OpenBSD... Which shouldnt matter much if you are really security conscious you will be reading bugtraq and the like... Is it just me or has there STILL not been an advisory on the ntpd remote root hole?! (I may have missed it or something I guess)... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 20:37: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webmonster.de (datasink.webmonster.de [194.162.162.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABF0737B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karsten@rohrbach.de) Received: (qmail 41229 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jun 2001 03:37:14 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:37:14 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" To: Juha Saarinen Cc: 'Mike Meyer' , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS Message-ID: <20010602053714.A40626@mail.webmonster.de> References: <15128.12896.422114.257377@guru.mired.org> <051801c0eafa$ddaa6830$0a01a8c0@den2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <051801c0eafa$ddaa6830$0a01a8c0@den2>; from juha@saarinen.org on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:27:54PM +1200 X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 X-URL: http://www.webmonster.de/ X-Disclaimer: My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my employer Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juha Saarinen(juha@saarinen.org)@2001.06.02 12:27:54 +0000: > :: If you've since it was installed: > ::=20 > :: # cd /usr/src/share/man/man7 > :: # make > :: # make install > ::=20 > :: The first make should tell you what's changed since you last did a > :: buildworld. The second one will install those files so man can find > :: them. >=20 > Thanks. I've got the man page now, but the warning below is a bit > confusing, isn't it? no, why? if you make buildworld from /usr/src, every built file goes to /usr/obj if you build from a source subdirectory, /usr/src/share/mk/bsd.obj.mk warns you about building to the current directory. this really is a nice thing[tm], imagine you would somehow manage it to damage the magic of the buildworld process by (re)defining the wrong vars in a Makefile under /usr/src without seeing the informational message ;-) If you would not be very familiar with the build system and - let's say - make a company internal release with specific enhancements, you would be=20 searching days for the point of your release build b0rkage... /k >=20 > $ make > Warning: Object directory not changed from original > /usr/src/share/man/man7 > gzip -cn ascii.7 > ascii.7.gz > gzip -cn clocks.7 > clocks.7.gz > gzip -cn environ.7 > environ.7.gz > gzip -cn hier.7 > hier.7.gz > gzip -cn hostname.7 > hostname.7.gz > gzip -cn intro.7 > intro.7.gz > gzip -cn mailaddr.7 > mailaddr.7.gz > gzip -cn operator.7 > operator.7.gz > gzip -cn ports.7 > ports.7.gz > gzip -cn security.7 > security.7.gz > gzip -cn tuning.7 > tuning.7.gz > gzip -cn firewall.7 > firewall.7.gz > gzip -cn style.perl.7 > style.perl.7.gz >=20 >=20 > -- Juha >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --=20 > Gravity is an unforgiving motherfucker. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GF9qM0BPTilkv0YRAtuMAJ9EWTHYWgYnzWyuTfLNJymMhVf45wCgnPw3 2hVoJG2+zGASCaMfoErEe9k= =7zvl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 22: 5: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8077E37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA28035; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:04:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-59.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.59) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma028033; Sat Jun 2 00:04:18 2001 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20010601232555.01a757f0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:02:41 -0500 To: John Polstra , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: CVSup minor port problem today In-Reply-To: <200105292010.f4TKAI423356@vashon.polstra.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net> <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> <3B1327DC.14080.5CA955C@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20010529054622.00a02110@jeff.isni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:10 PM 5/29/01 -0700, John Polstra wrote: >I spent a couple of years regularly ragging on people to check the >archives. Guess what? It doesn't work and it's a waste of time. >It just makes us all look like a bunch of grumps. (Not to mention >that the search engine isn't working too well these days.) If these >repeats are annoying you, then your best bet is to filter them >locally or ignore them some other way. Leave it to those who are >willing (like Peter Pentchev, David Chapman, and me) to answer these >questions. Really, sometimes you just have to accept reality and face >the fact that your ideal world is unachievable. There are people who >will check the archives and there are people who won't in a million >years. And there are people who check the archives but don't find >what they were looking for. Get over it and learn to ignore the >messages that annoy you. How about then at least pointing out that the -stable list isn't for port specific questions. Now I suppose I could come up with figures and such to back my point, but subjectively see an increase in such things and this CVSup issue makes it clear that most come here rather than on the ports list and the worst part is few every point out the fact a question would be more appropriate on another list. I am NOT saying that one shouldn't help anyone, but at least point out where such things belong. As you say it is not an ideal world, but could also point out that people were tracking stuff and at the minimum skimming the mail then would already have known about this and other issues. More so when they get such exposure. If the S/N ratio keeps degrading, then this list will become less and less useful. Still trying to figure out what the "Digital Camera" thread had to do with tracking -stable. One -core member did mention where the question belonged and other add his .02, so much for a consistent policy the coincides with the charter. Perhaps I should keep track, problem is the list is growing faster and that takes time better spent elsewhere, and present my case in the hopes this list will settle down a bit. Of course that is an ideal world problem again and given that most are too lazy to figure things out for themselves or pay attention. From another viewpoint it might be that in trying to be more friendly to new users the trade off is the list and others that are supposed to have a more specific focus will just have to go to $hit and that is that. All I'd ask for is those that have been around here a while to show a bit of leadership and try to improve the quality of this list and others. Hardly expect nothing off-topic to ever come up, but would hope it doesn't turn into a long discussion on photography, the legal ramifications of various licensing methods, why some video card isn't supported, and what's the best software for blah and why the port of it doesn't compile. Answer the question, so as John say here we don't look like a bunch of grumps, but point out where they belong, so you don't encourage others with less restraint. This is a request to members of this list and not a subject for discussion really. As this is a new month, think I might just try and track messages and bring this up with core. thanks Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 22:37:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4003237B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B6F5F673A5; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:37:51 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kal Torak Cc: Steve Tremblett , Joel CARNAT , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-ID: <20010601223751.A93583@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> <20010601152105.A89287@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B185B48.C56DF742@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B185B48.C56DF742@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +1000, Kal Torak wrote: > The only problem seems that sometimes security advisories via the > announce list come later than for OpenBSD... Which shouldnt matter > much if you are really security conscious you will be reading bugtraq > and the like... On the other hand, we release advisories for a wider range of problems than OpenBSD do.. > Is it just me or has there STILL not been an advisory on the ntpd > remote root hole?! (I may have missed it or something I guess)... You mean ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:31.ntpd.asc? from almost 2 months ago? ;-) Kris --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GHuvWry0BWjoQKURAn4WAJ9N1weR2Pu6FXwXBCuhJzeeq8HqRACfTR4L 7U+daxWTaXNINNe1LL6NcQ4= =mkxk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 22:48:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castor.ssimicro.com (birch.ssimicro.com [199.247.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849D437B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmitry@ssimicro.com) Received: from msx (nci105-8.theedge.ca [216.126.105.8] (may be forged)) by castor.ssimicro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24743 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:47:44 -0600 From: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Educational Reply-To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14818596009.20010601234744@ssimicro.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Beastie ftp.freebsd.org ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to answer, but is this the real location ? > nslookup ftp.freebsd.org > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: ftp.beastie.tdk.net > Address: 62.243.72.50 > Aliases: ftp.freebsd.org Compared to: > nslookup www.freebsd.org > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: freefall.freebsd.org > Address: 216.136.204.21 > Aliases: www.freebsd.org Best regards, Dmitry Dvoinikov dmitry@ssimicro.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 22:51:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649AD37B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:51:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F254F3E33; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:51:40 -0700 (PDT) To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Beastie ftp.freebsd.org ? In-Reply-To: <14818596009.20010601234744@ssimicro.com>; from dmitry@ssimicro.com on "Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:47:44 -0600" Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:51:40 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010602055141.F254F3E33@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes. "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" writes: > I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to answer, > but is this the real location ? > > > nslookup ftp.freebsd.org > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: ftp.beastie.tdk.net > > Address: 62.243.72.50 > > Aliases: ftp.freebsd.org > > Compared to: > > > nslookup www.freebsd.org > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: freefall.freebsd.org > > Address: 216.136.204.21 > > Aliases: www.freebsd.org > > Best regards, > Dmitry Dvoinikov > dmitry@ssimicro.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 23: 4: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535E437B43E for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from tarmap.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f5263hab039727; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:03:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010602010109.00abfb50@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:02:54 -0500 To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: Beastie ftp.freebsd.org ? In-Reply-To: <14818596009.20010601234744@ssimicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This was announced a week or so ago. Take a look at: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2575+0+archive/2001/freebsd-announce/20010527.freebsd-announce At 11:47 PM 6/1/2001 -0600, Dmitry V. Dvoinikov wrote: >I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to answer, >but is this the real location ? > > > nslookup ftp.freebsd.org > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: ftp.beastie.tdk.net > > Address: 62.243.72.50 > > Aliases: ftp.freebsd.org > >Compared to: > > > nslookup www.freebsd.org > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: freefall.freebsd.org > > Address: 216.136.204.21 > > Aliases: www.freebsd.org > >Best regards, >Dmitry Dvoinikov >dmitry@ssimicro.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Christopher Schulte Finger for PGP key, or for UNIX impaired: http://noc.schulte.org/cgi-bin/noc/finger.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 23: 8:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from castor.ssimicro.com (birch.ssimicro.com [199.247.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3263A37B61E for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmitry@ssimicro.com) Received: from msx (nci105-8.theedge.ca [216.126.105.8] (may be forged)) by castor.ssimicro.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25682; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:08:25 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:07:56 -0600 From: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Educational Reply-To: "Dmitry V. Dvoinikov" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10519808773.20010602000756@ssimicro.com> To: Christopher Schulte Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Dima Dorfman Subject: Re[2]: Beastie ftp.freebsd.org ? In-reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010602010109.00abfb50@pop.schulte.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010602010109.00abfb50@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks. My fault. Best regards, Dmitry Dvoinikov mailto:dmitry@ssimicro.com -------------------------- Original message follows: From: christopher@schulte.org Date: 0:02 02.06.2001 Subj: Beastie ftp.freebsd.org ? > This was announced a week or so ago. > Take a look at: > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2575+0+archive/2001/freebsd-announce/20010527.freebsd-announce > At 11:47 PM 6/1/2001 -0600, Dmitry V. Dvoinikov wrote: >>I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to answer, >>but is this the real location ? >> >> > nslookup ftp.freebsd.org >> > Non-authoritative answer: >> > Name: ftp.beastie.tdk.net >> > Address: 62.243.72.50 >> > Aliases: ftp.freebsd.org >> >>Compared to: >> >> > nslookup www.freebsd.org >> > Non-authoritative answer: >> > Name: freefall.freebsd.org >> > Address: 216.136.204.21 >> > Aliases: www.freebsd.org >> >>Best regards, >>Dmitry Dvoinikov >>dmitry@ssimicro.com >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- > Christopher Schulte > Finger for PGP key, or for UNIX impaired: > http://noc.schulte.org/cgi-bin/noc/finger.cgi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 23:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from master.nki.nnov.ru (master.nki.nnov.ru [195.98.56.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD9F37B42C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:25:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexc0@nki.nnov.ru) Received: from WADM03 ([192.168.5.252]) by master.nki.nnov.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id LZLC98MG; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:26:49 +0400 Message-ID: <000801c0eb2d$017e8b60$fc05a8c0@admgroup.nki.nnov.ru> From: "Alex Chernov" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:26:31 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB4E.7D9D9670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB4E.7D9D9670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB4E.7D9D9670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB4E.7D9D9670-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 23:45:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9504.mail.yahoo.com (web9504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CDF537B424 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:45:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010602064533.18867.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.164.130.13] by web9504.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 23:45:33 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:45:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Angshuman Dasgupta Reply-To: angshumand@yahoo.com Subject: Windowmaker build pains To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I've been trying to build Windowmaker, and afterstep, it fails with Imakefile.c:9: Imake.tmpl: No such file or directory imake: Exit code 1 stop. Any idea why? Thanks adg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jun 1 23:58:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DD937B423 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id xskbaaaa for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:58:08 +1000 Message-ID: <3B188F27.3C414DD8@quake.com.au> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:00:55 +1000 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Steve Tremblett , Joel CARNAT , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010601140605.M18959@sjt-u10.cisco.com> <20010601152105.A89287@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B185B48.C56DF742@quake.com.au> <20010601223751.A93583@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Is it just me or has there STILL not been an advisory on the ntpd > > remote root hole?! (I may have missed it or something I guess)... > > You mean > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:31.ntpd.asc? > from almost 2 months ago? ;-) Oh yeah there it is... Sneeky little thing must of slipped past me :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 0:45:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA92637B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f527jZi98827; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:45:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106020745.f527jZi98827@earth.backplane.com> To: "Juha Saarinen" Cc: "'Erik Trulsson'" , Subject: Re: RE: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS References: <04f701c0eaf6$81d2e3b0$0a01a8c0@den2> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ::: The one you get if you type 'man 7 tuning' in a recent 4.3-stable ::: system presumably. (I think it was committed about a week ago.) : : :?? : :$ man 7 tuning :No entry for tuning in section 7 of the manual : :$ uname -a :FreeBSD lists.idg.co.nz 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #2: Wed May 2 :11:45:51 NZST 2001 root@lists.idg.co.nz:/usr/src/sys/compile/LISTS :i386 : :Am I missing something as usual? Oh hang on, are you saying that tuning :thing was added only a week ago? Is there a way (I'm sure there must be) :to add it without a build/installworld? (Slow box here.) : :-- Juha as root: gzip -9 < /usr/src/share/man/man7/tuning.7 > /usr/share/man/man7/tuning.7.gz chmod 444 /usr/share/man/man7/tuning.7.gz I also added 'firewall.7'. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 1:23:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C2237B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:23:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f528N5O98998; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:23:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:23:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200106020823.f528N5O98998@earth.backplane.com> To: David Wolfskill Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng References: <200106012318.f51NI8w38590@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :>:certainly not the latter. :-) : :> Historically people compared time stamps by subtracting one from :> another. : :Which is a practice that the difftime() function was invented to :replace. : :> If they are unsigned, that breaks horribly (you never get :> a negative result). : :Ummm. With respect, I think the excerpt from "man 3 time" that reads: : : Upon successful completion, time() returns the value of time. Otherwise : a value of ((time_t) -1) is returned and the global variable errno is set : to indicate the error. : :is probably a more significant restriction: both could be gotten around :if time_t were unsigned, but in the mean time (no pun intended!), I suspect :that a lot of naively-coded applications would break mysteriously. : :> Internally there is nothing preventing us from :> treating time_t as an unsigned, er, long. : :Well, I don't write much code (and never have written a lot of it), so :please feel free to take what I wrote with an appropriately-sized :"grain of salt". But it may be worth noting (iin this context) that :the result of difftime() is a double. :-} : :Cheers, :david :-- :David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Yes, I know all that. The problem isn't that you couldn't have an unsigned time_t, the problem is that there are vast amounts of software already out there that would "break mysteriously" if you did. So, like the int<->long problem, the best thing to do is not rock the boat. That means for maximum portability time_t has to be a signed long. Not int, not unsigned int, not unsigned long... just 'long'. In anycase, I'd like to see the author of the commit (That's you, Dave O'Brien) back it out so we don't have to request it formally. I mean, give me a break... changing a core type to catch people assuming time_t is a long? What about the more likely scenario that people assume it's an int? You're just trading one issue for another (amoung about half a hundred other reasons why it should not be gratuitously changed to an int... like for example 95% of the rest of the world declaring it long). Our IA32 time_t was never broken, this commit breaks it gratuitously for no good reason (and doubly especially no good reason for a core type!). It's our Alpha time_t that's broken. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 1:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wanadoo.nl (larry.euronet.nl [194.134.35.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7AC37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@eircom.net) Received: from ams-gw.sohara.org (p1170.vcu.wanadoo.nl [194.134.203.151]) by smtp.wanadoo.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f528qjN17700; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:46 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:52:43 +0200 From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Nick Sayer Cc: allbery@ece.cmu.edu, rivers@dignus.com, dillon@earth.backplane.com, dmitry@ssimicro.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-Id: <20010602105243.10605769.steveo@eircom.net> In-Reply-To: <3B181C02.50009@quack.kfu.com> References: <200106012231.SAA86897@lakes.dignus.com> <25160000.991434881@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> <3B181C02.50009@quack.kfu.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.99cvs2 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsdelf4.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:49:38 -0700 Nick Sayer wrote: NS> I never understood why it isn't at _least_ made unsigned. This at least NS> puts off the 2038 issue until 2106. I may live to see the former, but There were times *before* 1/1/1970 and it is nice to be able to use them. -- Directable Mirrors - A Better Way To Focus The Sun http://www.best.com/~sohara To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 3:11:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3788037B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (Sturm@klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52ABQm10285 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:11:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:11:26 +0200 (CEST) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: NIS/YP still broken! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE has still a broken NIS/YP! If there are more than one slave servers ypxfrd should spread its tables, push seems to lock up and get a timeout. This was reported earlier here and I got a 'fix' for this but this fix hasn't been merged in due it targets a sypmtome, not the cause itself. -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 3:22: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web9502.mail.yahoo.com (web9502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FC9E37B43C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angshumand@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010602102158.73634.qmail@web9502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.164.130.13] by web9502.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:21:58 PDT Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:21:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Angshuman Dasgupta Reply-To: angshumand@yahoo.com Subject: SMBFS mount error To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... I'm having a problem mounting SMBFS shares - I get the following error - no matter what arguments i give... mount_smbfs: vfsload (smbfs) Exec format error. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 4:23: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neko.cts.com (neko.cts.com [209.68.192.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E624737B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from venus.cts.com (venus.cts.com [216.120.25.34]) by neko.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11613 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (moon.cts.com [216.120.25.36]) by venus.cts.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52BMqp06241 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Subject: lpd: Malformed from address Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:23:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2511 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2475.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrading two different FreeBSD 4.2 systems to 4.3, they both began to exhibit trouble when trying to print to their lpd processes. Watching the raw traffic via tcpdump, both are failing immediately when lpd tries to resolve the connecting client's address in chkhost(): error = getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, sizeof(serv), NI_NUMERICSERV); if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); It can be exercised via telnet: # telnet golf printer Trying 205.163.23.102... Connected to golf.cts.com. Escape character is '^]'. lpd: Malformed from address Connection closed by foreign host. This happens on both systems, different kernels, one running named and one not. What in the world could be causing this? --Morgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 4:29:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762BD37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from riggs@f113.hadiko.de) Received: from f113.hadiko.de (root@hadif113.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.42.143]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1569bN-00065l-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 13:29:53 +0200 Received: (from riggs@localhost) by f113.hadiko.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52BTqH12836; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:29:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from riggs) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:29:51 +0200 From: Thomas Zander To: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602132951.A12654@f113.hadiko.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-PGP-KeyID: 0xC85996CD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 4F59 75B4 4CE3 3B00 BC61 5400 8DD4 8929 C859 96CD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi... my buildworld of this morning shows a little uncomfortable problem with the xl driver: media: ... status: no carrier The card is a 3c905 - TX (scanpci: device 0x9050) and never made problems before. kernel.old does its work, too. Has anyone encountered similar problems? So long Riggs --=20 - Die Welt schl=E4ft tief schon lange Zeit | Sent with RiggiSmooth [tm] - -- Mich nur flieht die Dunkelheit | ------------------------- -- --- Denn per Infrarot seh ich | just to fit your --- ---- Die Nacht ist wirklich widerlich. | primitive screen. ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 4:51:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D748F37B42C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:51:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1569wI-00023o-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:51:30 +0000 To: Thomas Zander , wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:51:30 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 194.109.195.172 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is most likely PR kern/27722 http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27722 Wilko > Hi... > > my buildworld of this morning shows a little uncomfortable problem with > the xl driver: > > media: ... status: no carrier > > The card is a 3c905 - TX (scanpci: device 0x9050) and never made > problems before. kernel.old does its work, too. > > Has anyone encountered similar problems? > > So long > Riggs > > -- > - Die Welt schläft tief schon lange Zeit | Sent with RiggiSmooth [tm] - > -- Mich nur flieht die Dunkelheit | ------------------------- -- > --- Denn per Infrarot seh ich | just to fit your --- > ---- Die Nacht ist wirklich widerlich. | primitive screen. ---- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 5:12:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863C137B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:12:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a079.otenet.gr [212.205.215.79]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f52CBlU23439; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:11:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52BtEo12968; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:55:14 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:55:14 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas X-X-Sender: To: Cc: "brian j. peterson" , Brooks Davis , "Chad R. Larson" , , Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-Reply-To: <200106012200.f51M0ov94668@drugs.dv.isc.org> Message-ID: <20010602145408.V12788-100000@hades.hell.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 Mark.Andrews@nominum.com wrote: > > > fsck -p > > > mount -a > > > > > > after the reboot into single user mode. > > And "adjkerntz -i" or else installworld will run with a > different time to the one you are expecting it to if you > use wallclock time. Hmmmmm. Anybody thinking of making an /etc/rc.single script, that incorporates all these steps in their proper order, or is it just me? -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 5:12:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A246E37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a079.otenet.gr [212.205.215.79]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f52CBuU23531; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:11:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52BrEY12959; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:53:15 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramidi@otenet.gr) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:53:14 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas X-X-Sender: To: Brooks Davis Cc: "brian j. peterson" , "Chad R. Larson" , , Subject: Re: problem with chflags In-Reply-To: <20010601140537.A24948@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Message-ID: <20010602145058.S12788-100000@hades.hell.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Brooks Davis wrote: > If we really need to support people who don't know what to do in single > user mode, the correct thing is to add instructions to do: > > fsck -p > mount -a > > after the reboot into single user mode. Yes, that would be marvellous. I know that I need to mount my filesystems after checking them, and I always do: # fsck -p # mount -u -o rw / # mount -a But these steps are not easy to guess, if one reads /usr/src/UPDATING. They are implied, but for someone who is booting in single user mode for his first time, they are also very hard to just come up with :-) -giorgos To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 5:40: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E542337B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f52Cduq25012 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:39:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22366 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:39:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 23279 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Jun 2001 12:39:39 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:39:39 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with chflags Message-ID: <20010602143939.A23253@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010601140537.A24948@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010602145058.S12788-100000@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010602145058.S12788-100000@hades.hell.gr>; from keramidi@otenet.gr on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 02:53:14PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 02:53:14PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Brooks Davis wrote: > > > If we really need to support people who don't know what to do in single > > user mode, the correct thing is to add instructions to do: > > > > fsck -p > > mount -a > > > > after the reboot into single user mode. > > Yes, that would be marvellous. I know that I need to mount my filesystems > after checking them, and I always do: > > # fsck -p > # mount -u -o rw / > # mount -a > > But these steps are not easy to guess, if one reads /usr/src/UPDATING. > They are implied, but for someone who is booting in single user mode for his > first time, they are also very hard to just come up with :-) One might also need to do swapon -a to use any swapspace. I forgot that once with the result that the installworld stopped half-way through with an out-of-memory error. Granted, that machine only have 8 MB RAM and a modern machine should have enough memory to not need any swap during an installworld but one should be aware of teh potential problem. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 5:41:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875937B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 05:41:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from riggs@f113.hadiko.de) Received: from f113.hadiko.de (root@hadif113.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.42.143]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 156AiQ-0001Yb-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 14:41:14 +0200 Received: (from riggs@localhost) by f113.hadiko.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52Cf9o13768; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:41:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from riggs) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:41:08 +0200 From: Thomas Zander To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602144108.A13649@f113.hadiko.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 11:51:30AM +0000 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RiggiServ_-_Ihr_Partner_f=FCr_alles_Delikate?= X-PGP-KeyID: 0xC85996CD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 4F59 75B4 4CE3 3B00 BC61 5400 8DD4 8929 C859 96CD X-Mailer: Riggisoft Ausguck Eggsbress (Build 991485215) X-Operating-System: Riggiland BSD 4.3-STABLE (To serve and protect.) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Am Sa , dem 02. Jun 2001, um 11:51 +0000 Uhr schrubte Wilko Bulte zum Thema [Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02)]: > This is most likely PR kern/27722 >=20 >=20 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D27722 >=20 > Wilko Yes, this was exactly the cure. Everything runs fine now, just as expected :-) Thanks a lot Riggs --=20 - Die Welt schl=E4ft tief schon lange Zeit | Sent with RiggiSmooth [tm] - -- Mich nur flieht die Dunkelheit | ------------------------- -- --- Denn per Infrarot seh ich | just to fit your --- ---- Die Nacht ist wirklich widerlich. | primitive screen. ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 7:25:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.jaring.my (smtp1.jaring.my [192.228.128.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90A37B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kar_alerts@mglorysb.com) Received: from svr.mgsb.domain ([202.187.194.33]) by smtp1.jaring.my (8.10.0.Beta6/8.9.3) with SMTP id f52EO2j22365; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:24:04 +0800 (MYT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: K Karthik Reply-To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com Organization: Multimedia Glory Sdn Bhd To: Thomas Zander , wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:25:37 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010602132951.A12654@f113.hadiko.de> In-Reply-To: <20010602132951.A12654@f113.hadiko.de> X-Chameleon-Return-To: kar_alerts@mglorysb.com X-PRIORITY: 2 (High) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01060222253700.11993@svr.mgsb.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No problems for me. My dmesg line: *--* xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1000-0x107f mem 0xf4000000-0xf400007f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 *--* scanpci: *--* pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x0d function 0x0000: vendor 0x10b7 device 0x9200 3COM Device unknown *--* Don't know if "C" (3c905C) makes any difference for me. On Saturday 02 June 2001 11:29, Thomas Zander wrote: > Hi... > > my buildworld of this morning shows a little uncomfortable problem with > the xl driver: > > media: ... status: no carrier > > The card is a 3c905 - TX (scanpci: device 0x9050) and never made > problems before. kernel.old does its work, too. > > Has anyone encountered similar problems? > > So long > Riggs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 7:46:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA7837B42C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 156CfH-000Nnl-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 14:46:07 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f52EpwE07060 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:51:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:51:58 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: 3COM 3C905TX / xl driver broken in -stable Message-ID: <20010602165158.A7027@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For those of you who have missed it: the xl driver (or rather miibus) is broken in -stable as far as the 3C905TX card goes. Maybe it also applies to other cards employing the DP83840 PHY chip. As the change in miibus that causes this problem seems to be done to fix something with the fxp driver I am not too sure how to proceed. A PR has been filed under reference kern/27722 Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 8: 5:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from light.imasy.or.jp (light.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDEB37B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by light.imasy.or.jp (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3/light/smtpfeed 1.12) with UUCP id f52F5Ix29669; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:05:18 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (IDENT:tpRDXFKdCSqQiZl9YnoZDQrABCHnxMRSkCslKvY09rKYfnNadvyOgH0leB/m13tc@peace.mahoroba.org [3ffe:505:2:0:200:f8ff:fe05:3eae]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by mail.mahoroba.org (8.11.4/8.11.4/chaos) with ESMTP/inet6 id f52F4xc11143; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 00:04:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 00:04:55 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010603.000455.78786804.ume@mahoroba.org> To: mdavis@cts.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org, wollman@FreeBSD.org, gad@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: lpd: Malformed from address From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> References: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b119 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 04:23:18 -0700 >>>>> "Morgan Davis" said: mdavis> After upgrading two different FreeBSD 4.2 systems to 4.3, they both mdavis> began to exhibit trouble when trying to print to their lpd processes. mdavis> Watching the raw traffic via tcpdump, both are failing immediately when mdavis> lpd tries to resolve the connecting client's address in chkhost(): mdavis> error = getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, sizeof(serv), mdavis> NI_NUMERICSERV); mdavis> if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) mdavis> fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); mdavis> It can be exercised via telnet: mdavis> # telnet golf printer mdavis> Trying 205.163.23.102... mdavis> Connected to golf.cts.com. mdavis> Escape character is '^]'. mdavis> lpd: Malformed from address mdavis> Connection closed by foreign host. mdavis> This happens on both systems, different kernels, one running named and mdavis> one not. What in the world could be causing this? When I ported IPv6 support into FreeBSD from NetBSD, I wrongly brought reserved port checking code into FreeBSD. Originally, FreeBSD's lpd didn't check validity of connection by checking if it comes from reserved port. However, since lpd relies on r-authentication, it should be expected. Though it is easy to get rid of reserved port checking, we should have some considerlation. Any suggestion? -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 8:30:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE89A37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from riggs@f113.hadiko.de) Received: from f113.hadiko.de (root@hadif113.hadiko.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.20.42.143]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 156DMP-0001fq-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:30:41 +0200 Received: (from riggs@localhost) by f113.hadiko.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52FUfZ15345; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from riggs) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:30:41 +0200 From: Thomas Zander To: K Karthik Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> References: <20010602132951.A12654@f113.hadiko.de> <01060222253700.11993@svr.mgsb.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <01060222253700.11993@svr.mgsb.domain>; from kar_alerts@mglorysb.com on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 10:25:37PM +0000 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RiggiServ_-_Ihr_Partner_f=FCr_alles_Delikate?= X-PGP-KeyID: 0xC85996CD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 4F59 75B4 4CE3 3B00 BC61 5400 8DD4 8929 C859 96CD X-Mailer: Riggisoft Ausguck Eggsbress (Build 991495301) X-Operating-System: Riggiland BSD 4.3-STABLE (To serve and protect.) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Am Sa , dem 02. Jun 2001, um 22:25 +0000 Uhr schrubte K Karthik zum Thema [Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02)]: > No problems for me. My dmesg line: > *--* > xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1000-0x107f mem=20 > 0xf4000000-0xf400007f irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 > *--* >=20 > scanpci: > *--* > pci bus 0x0 cardnum 0x0d function 0x0000: vendor 0x10b7 device 0x9200 > 3COM Device unknown > *--* Look at the URL Wilko posted in the morning. But you're right, in fact 3com cards 3c905 and 3c905c are quite different. Riggs --=20 - Die Welt schl=E4ft tief schon lange Zeit | Sent with RiggiSmooth [tm] - -- Mich nur flieht die Dunkelheit | ------------------------- -- --- Denn per Infrarot seh ich | just to fit your --- ---- Die Nacht ist wirklich widerlich. | primitive screen. ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 8:52:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930D37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f52Fqcl82642; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f52Fqcb74072; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:37 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matt Dillon Cc: David Wolfskill , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200106012318.f51NI8w38590@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200106020823.f528N5O98998@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200106020823.f528N5O98998@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:23:05AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:23:05AM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote: > Yes, I know all that. The problem isn't that you couldn't have an > unsigned time_t, the problem is that there are vast amounts of software > already out there that would "break mysteriously" if you did. So, > like the int<->long problem, the best thing to do is not rock the boat. > That means for maximum portability time_t has to be a signed long. Not > int, not unsigned int, not unsigned long... just 'long'. There is not enough context here for me to get any idea what the issue is. This email argued signed vs. unsigned, and that has nothing to do with time_t being an int. Since on IA-32 int == long, the only issue is what ones uses in printf() and scanf(). I have not seen anyone having a problem with this yet. So I ask you to bring this up on freebsd-arch@freebsd.org why time_t needs to be a long. If you had more multi-platform concerns you would understand why having as consistent defintions of things is best for FreeBSD. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9: 5:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mgate03.so-net.ne.jp (mgate03.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E5137B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:05:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ipfw@ya3.so-net.ne.jp) Received: from mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp (mspool11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.248.11]) by mgate03.so-net.ne.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta9/3.6W01050922) with ESMTP id BAA00625; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:05:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (p78a307.kngwnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [61.120.163.7]) by mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp with ESMTP id f52G5W110730; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:05:32 +0900 (JST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dillon@earth.backplane.com, david@catwhisker.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng From: Yoshihiro Koya In-Reply-To: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200106012318.f51NI8w38590@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200106020823.f528N5O98998@earth.backplane.com> <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010603010518C.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 01:05:18 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:37 -0700 Message-ID: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> > Since on IA-32 int == long, the only issue is what ones uses in printf() > and scanf(). I have not seen anyone having a problem with this yet. Please see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27757 and the response to this PR. I have no good idea to fix this problem. If someone decide what is the best for time_t, I can submit patch to solve this PR and the problem pointed out by its response. koya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:13:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dilbert.fcg.co.uk (dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk [194.203.69.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE4A37B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk) Received: from pfrench by dilbert.fcg.co.uk with local (Exim 3.22 #1) id 156E1q-000Ckv-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:13:30 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) In-Reply-To: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:13:30 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > But you're right, in fact 3com cards 3c905 and 3c905c are quite > different. It is the general consensu that this affect 3C905 cards only, not any of the other 3COM cards that use the xl driver ? I have a 3C900B-TPO in a remote machine that I was going to have a try at upgrading sometime in the near future - which might provide some more information, but I;d like to know if I have to plan to take an afternoon off to go to where the machine is physically locate in case it does not come up properly. -pcf. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:16:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B65437B43E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.muxi.com [206.40.252.115] (may be forged)) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f52GGil82728; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f52GGhw74477; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:16:43 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Yoshihiro Koya Cc: dillon@earth.backplane.com, david@catwhisker.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Message-ID: <20010602091643.C73968@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200106012318.f51NI8w38590@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <200106020823.f528N5O98998@earth.backplane.com> <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010603010518C.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010603010518C.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp>; from Yoshihiro.Koya@math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp on Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:05:18AM +0900 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:05:18AM +0900, Yoshihiro Koya wrote: > Hello, > > From: "David O'Brien" > Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 08:52:37 -0700 > Message-ID: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> > > > Since on IA-32 int == long, the only issue is what ones uses in printf() > > and scanf(). I have not seen anyone having a problem with this yet. > > Please see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27757 > and the response to this PR. This PR seems to be a signed vs. unsigned issue. Maybe it is too early in the morning, so please explain why int(32-bit) vs. long(32-bit) [on x86] is an issue for this PR. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:29:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (mgate10.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.254.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2FA37B423; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ipfw@ya3.so-net.ne.jp) Received: from mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp (mspool11.so-net.ne.jp [210.139.248.11]) by mgate10.so-net.ne.jp (8.9.3/3.7W01050922) with ESMTP id BAA24267; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:29:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (p78a307.kngwnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp [61.120.163.7]) by mail.ya3.so-net.ne.jp with ESMTP id f52GTk121626; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:29:46 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <20010602091643.C73968@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010603010518C.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> <20010602091643.C73968@dragon.nuxi.com> Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng From: Yoshihiro Koya To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Yoshihiro.Koya@math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp, dillon@earth.backplane.com, david@catwhisker.org, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010603012933K.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 01:29:33 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 990905(IM130) Lines: 33 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:16:43 -0700 Message-ID: <20010602091643.C73968@dragon.nuxi.com> > On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:05:18AM +0900, Yoshihiro Koya wrote: > > > Since on IA-32 int == long, the only issue is what ones uses in printf() > > > and scanf(). I have not seen anyone having a problem with this yet. > > > > Please see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27757 > > and the response to this PR. > > This PR seems to be a signed vs. unsigned issue. Maybe it is too early > in the morning, so please explain why int(32-bit) vs. long(32-bit) [on > x86] is an issue for this PR. Yes. You are right. The PR itself isn't one related to int vs. long issue. But the respose submitted by someone is closely related to this issue. if (snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), - "%s:%s:%d:%d:%s:%ld:%ld:%s:%s:%s", + "%s:%s:%u:%u:%s:%ld:%ld:%s:%s:%s", pw->pw_name, pw->pw_passwd, pw->pw_uid, pw->pw_gid, pw->pw_class, pw->pw_change, pw->pw_expire, pw->pw_gecos, pw->pw_dir, pw->pw_shell) >= sizeof(buf)) { The pw->pw_chage and pw->pw_passwd are of time_t. But, in the above, %ld is used for them. koya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:41:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from light.imasy.or.jp (light.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D414B37B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by light.imasy.or.jp (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3/light) with UUCP id f52Gf8s06522; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:41:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (IDENT:QBGP4j7WN0ULCWweS+YaskaCaslHfMXyt6hlD1VrXKddQrCffSpBRDen9MNb8Iin@peace.mahoroba.org [2001:200:301:0:200:f8ff:fe05:3eae]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by mail.mahoroba.org (8.11.4/8.11.4/chaos) with ESMTP/inet6 id f52GcUc11560; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:38:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 01:38:27 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010603.013827.112367504.ume@mahoroba.org> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d will be removed soon. From: Hajimu UMEMOTO X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b119 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I heared from itojun that usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d has non-BSD license and does not allow fee-based redistribution. So, I will remove them from the tree soon. NetBSD was already done. Could someone please make them ports? ftp.kame.net:~ftp/pub/kame/misc has pim6[sd]-*.tar.gz. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:44:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A84B37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 156EVb-0007Xn-00; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:44:15 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f52Go6N07656; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:50:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:50:06 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Pete French Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602185006.C7587@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from pfrench@firstcallgroup.co.uk on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:13:30PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:13:30PM +0100, Pete French wrote: > > But you're right, in fact 3com cards 3c905 and 3c905c are quite > > different. As far as I can see the general consensus is that we don't know yet ;) > It is the general consensu that this affect 3C905 cards only, not any of the > other 3COM cards that use the xl driver ? I have a 3C900B-TPO in a remote > machine that I was going to have a try at upgrading sometime in the near > future - which might provide some more information, but I;d like to > know if I have to plan to take an afternoon off to go to where the machine > is physically locate in case it does not come up properly. Difficult to say based on the limited amount of data we have at the moment. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 9:55: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A709E37B42C; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52GswS39126; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:54:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> References: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:54:55 -0400 To: "Morgan Davis" , From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: lpd: Malformed from address Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG, Hajimu UMEMOTO , freebsd-print@bostonradio.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:23 AM -0700 6/2/01, Morgan Davis wrote: > > After upgrading two different FreeBSD 4.2 systems to 4.3, > > they both began to exhibit trouble when trying to print > > to their lpd processes. > > Watching the raw traffic via tcpdump, both are failing > > immediately when lpd tries to resolve the connecting > > client's address in chkhost(): > > > > error = getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, > > sizeof(serv), NI_NUMERICSERV); > > if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) > > fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); So, both of these systems are being sent print jobs from OTHER machines, and are refusing to accept those jobs due to the malformed 'from' address? Does this happen with jobs from all machines which send to the two print-servers, or only from some machines? For the client machines which DO fail, what OS are they running? Is there any reason those clients would NOT be sending from a reserved port? In your 'tcpdump' output, what port is the request coming from? Also, are the print jobs being sent via IPv4 connections, or IPv6 connections? In a later message on 6/3/01, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: >When I ported IPv6 support into FreeBSD from NetBSD, I wrongly >brought reserved port checking code into FreeBSD. Originally, >FreeBSD's lpd didn't check validity of connection by checking >if it comes from reserved port. Hmm. I wonder if this is something that got dropped along the way somewhere. The lpd I use at RPI *does* check that jobs are coming from a reserved port, and I am pretty sure I never wrote that code. That implies that it must have been in whatever version of lpd that RPI started with (*). But you are right that freebsd's version before the IPv6 update did not check (or at least, if the check was there then it did not work correctly). This is one of the sections of lpd where I haven't tried to reconcile RPI's code with freebsd's code. [* - although someone else did work on lpd at RPI before I did, so maybe they added this check] >However, since lpd relies on r-authentication, it should be >expected. Though it is easy to get rid of reserved port >checking, we should have some consideration. Any suggestion? It seems to me that checking for a reserved port is a good thing, so I want to hear back from Morgan to make sure we know what the exact problem is. It may be that the idea of doing the check is correct, but this specific implementation has a bug in it. [again, note that RPI's print servers have been running for years WITH a check for reserved port, and I am not aware of that causing any problems. So, I find it curious that the check would be causing a problem for Morgan] -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 10:14: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75CE37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-92-252.knology.net [24.214.92.252]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52HDtH25768 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:13:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08FE71A821; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:13:53 -0500 From: Steve Price To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: vinum panic Message-ID: <20010602121353.N688@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying for several days now to get a RAID5 volume setup on a new box and no matter what I've tried it always ends up panic'ing the kernel where I try to create the volume. Here's my configuration file: drive d1 device /dev/da1s1e drive d2 device /dev/da2s1e drive d3 device /dev/da3s1e drive d4 device /dev/da4s1e drive d5 device /dev/da5s1e volume raid plex org raid5 512k sd length 17626m drive d1 sd length 17626m drive d2 sd length 17626m drive d3 sd length 17626m drive d4 sd length 17626m drive d5 I've decided that I would skip RAID5 and do RAID10 instead because I've had success with it before. So after the crash here's what I did. vinum vinum -> resetconfig vinum -> saveconfig vinum -> stop newfs /dev/da1s1e newfs /dev/da2s1e newfs /dev/da3s1e newfs /dev/da4s1e newfs /dev/da5s1e disklabel -e /dev/da1s1e # change 4.2BSD to vinum for 'e' disklabel -e /dev/da2s1e disklabel -e /dev/da3s1e disklabel -e /dev/da4s1e disklabel -e /dev/da5s1e vinum vinum -> mirror -v -n raid10 -s /dev/da2s1e /dev/da3s1e /dev/da4s1e /dev/da5s1e drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/da2s1e vinum: drive vinumdrive0 is up Can't create drive vinumdrive0, device /dev/da2s1e: Invalid argument (22) vinum -> printconfig # Vinum configuration of , saved at Sat Jun 2 07:09:00 2001 vinum -> ls vinum -> ld vinum -> lv vinum -> lp vinum -> quit How can vinumdrive0 be up when it isn't defined? Anyone have any pointers to help down the road to vinum nirvana? Thanks. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 10:22:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C902537B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C8F10F40F; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:22:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006701c0eb88$8a33bce0$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: , , "Hajimu UMEMOTO" References: <20010603.013827.112367504.ume@mahoroba.org> Subject: Re: usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d will be removed soon. Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:22:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wouldn't mind, but what exactly does pim do and do you need both pim6dd and pim6sd? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hajimu UMEMOTO" To: ; Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d will be removed soon. > Hi, > > I heared from itojun that usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d has non-BSD license and > does not allow fee-based redistribution. So, I will remove them from > the tree soon. NetBSD was already done. > Could someone please make them ports? ftp.kame.net:~ftp/pub/kame/misc > has pim6[sd]-*.tar.gz. > > -- > Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan > ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org > http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 10:41: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.de (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750BF37B42C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabat@web.de) Received: from fwd01.sul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 156FOW-0001c2-07; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 19:41:00 +0200 Received: from spotteswoode.yi.org (520082050842-0001@[217.80.22.59]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 156FOK-0HASJsC; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:40:48 +0200 Received: (qmail 3411 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jun 2001 17:41:10 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:41:09 +0200 From: clemensF To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-ID: <20010602194109.C2630@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from freebsd@bolingbroke.com on Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:05:44PM -0700 Organization: private X-PGP-ID: 0x214190AF X-Stamper-To: post@stamper.itconsult.co.uk X-Sender: 520082050842-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ken Bolingbroke: > If I wanted an absolutely secure gateway just for security, I would > probably go with OpenBSD, because that's the focus. But for general > usage, FreeBSD has more features, and still has enough of an effort on > security concerns that I'm reasonably content with FreeBSD's security for > general applications. i'd like to know which features there are in freebsd in addition to openbsd's. is it the vm structure? kame? clemens To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 10:41:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from light.imasy.or.jp (light.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ECC37B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by light.imasy.or.jp (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3/light) with UUCP id f52HfM410759; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:41:22 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (IDENT:Ug6poFRZmWsvfGaBS8L1+jHhspmB+sqf+yyRznZslCveMPcaYHQd6VT+61cUpC0I@peace.mahoroba.org [2001:200:301:0:200:f8ff:fe05:3eae]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by mail.mahoroba.org (8.11.4/8.11.4/chaos) with ESMTP/inet6 id f52HdZc15175; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:39:35 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 02:39:31 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010603.023931.28866959.ume@mahoroba.org> To: dwcjr@inethouston.net Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usr.sbin/pim6[sd]d will be removed soon. From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <006701c0eb88$8a33bce0$931576d8@inethouston.net> References: <20010603.013827.112367504.ume@mahoroba.org> <006701c0eb88$8a33bce0$931576d8@inethouston.net> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b119 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:22:03 -0500 >>>>> "David W. Chapman Jr." said: dwcjr> I wouldn't mind, but what exactly does pim do and do you need both pim6dd dwcjr> and pim6sd? pim6[ds]d are an IPv6 mutlicast routing daemon. pim6dd is for dense mode and pim6sd is for sparse mode. Someone may need pim6dd and someone may need pim6sd according to their network configuration. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 11: 9: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from av.fks.lan (hh1125204.direcpc.com [206.71.125.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA34D37B43C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by av.fks.lan (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f52IBUP00475; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:11:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: av.fks.lan: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:11:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@av.fks.lan To: Jesper Skriver Cc: Matt Dillon , Juha Saarinen , Blaz Zupan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: poor performance with FreeBSD and Windows ICS In-Reply-To: <20010602013105.B30539@skriver.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could you give examples of what you did with rfc1323 extensions, > just enabled it in /etc/rc.conf, without touching the send/recieve > buffers, or ? > > Could you also please give a example of a site that you would get > hanging connections to ? > > What do you mean with hanging connections ? I did some more investigation. Increasing the buffer sizes above 65535 did not seem to improve performance further, although at 262144 it wouldn't work at all (just get a message about no buffer space being available). Fetch worked fine with or without TCP extensions, enabling them didn't seem to make any difference in performance. However, ncftp3 would always hang with TCP extensions enabled. It also didn't perform as well as fetch on the same download. With fetch I was able to achieve over 90kbyte/sec downloads consistently, not bad for a service which claims to have a maximum thruput of only 400kbits/sec... - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 11:32:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from woody.ichilton.co.uk (woody.ichilton.co.uk [216.29.174.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3489C37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@woody.ichilton.co.uk) Received: by woody.ichilton.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C50387D02; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:32:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:32:29 +0100 From: Ian Chilton To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Port Forwarding and Bandwidth Limiting Message-ID: <20010602193229.A16562@woody.ichilton.co.uk> Reply-To: Ian Chilton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.13i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have NAT and firewall (ipfw) working, but port forwarding and bandwidth limiting are not working. I have and extra IP (say 123.123.123.124) on the box, as ifconfig_vr0_alias0. vr0 = 123.123.123.123 Then, in natd.conf: redirect_port tcp 192.168.2.2:21 123.123.123.124:21 redirect_port tcp 192.168.2.2:23 123.123.123.124:23 I was hoping this would re-direct 123.123.123.124 ports 21 and 23 to 192.168.2.2 but it isn't working. The only thing I can think of is, do I need to open those ports up in the firewall, like: ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to 123.123.123.124 21 setup ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from 123.123.123.124 21 to any Do I need that? If so, is those 2 right? I then have this in rc.firewall: # Bandwidth Limiting (outgoing): #${fwcmd} pipe 1 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 10Kbytes #${fwcmd} add pipe 1 all from ${inet1}:${imask} to any #${fwcmd} add pipe 1 all from ${ipfw1} to any # Network Address Translation. case ${natd_enable} in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) if [ -n "${natd_interface}" ]; then ${fwcmd} add divert natd all from any to any via ${oif} fi ;; esac # Bandwidth Limiting (incoming): #${fwcmd} pipe 2 config bw 64Kbit/s queue 10Kbytes #${fwcmd} add pipe 2 all from any to ${inet1}:${imask} #${fwcmd} add pipe 2 all from any to ${ipfw1} But, this isn't working either...everything stops working when I uncomment these.. Any ideas? Thanks! Bye for Now, Ian \|||/ (o o) /-----------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----------------------------\ | Ian Chilton E-Mail: ian@ichilton.co.uk | | IRC Nick: GadgetMan Backup: ichilton@www.linux.org.uk | | ICQ: 16007717 / 104665842 Web : http://www.ichilton.co.uk | |--------------------------------------------------------------------| | For people who like peace and quiet: a phoneless cord | \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12: 2:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB3A37B423; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52J2dS102080; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:02:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:02:37 -0400 To: "Morgan Davis" , From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: lpd: Malformed from address Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG, Hajimu UMEMOTO , freebsd-print@bostonradio.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:54 PM -0400 6/2/01, I (Garance) wrote: >In a later message on 6/3/01, Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: >>When I ported IPv6 support into FreeBSD from NetBSD, I wrongly >>brought reserved port checking code into FreeBSD. Originally, >>FreeBSD's lpd didn't check validity of connection by checking >>if it comes from reserved port. > >Hmm. I wonder if this is something that got dropped along >the way somewhere. The lpd I use at RPI *does* check that >jobs are coming from a reserved port, and I am pretty sure I >never wrote that code. That implies that it must have been >in whatever version of lpd that RPI started with A more awake person might have immediately remembered that the whole reason to keep CVS logs is so people can answer questions like this... It appears that freebsd's lpd lost this reserved-port check with version 1.6 of lpd, back in July of 1997. The comments for the change do not indicate why the check was dropped (and from the comments, it's not clear that the check was MEANT to be dropped...). My gut feeling is that the check is good to do, which gets us back to finding out why the implementation added with IPv6 does not seem to work for Morgan. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B9637B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52J65S61140; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:06:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010602194109.C2630@spotteswoode.yi.org> References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010602194109.C2630@spotteswoode.yi.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:06:03 -0400 To: clemensF , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:41 PM +0200 6/2/01, clemensF wrote: > > Ken Bolingbroke: > > > If I wanted an absolutely secure gateway just for security, > > I would probably go with OpenBSD, because that's the focus. > > But for general usage, FreeBSD has more features, and still > > has enough of an effort on security concerns ... > >i'd like to know which features there are in freebsd in addition >to openbsd's. is it the vm structure? kame? While such a list could be useful, it would be mighty hard to create and to keep accurate. Both FreeBSD and OpenBSD are moving targets, and the list of differences between them will certainly change on a monthly basis. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:13:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC3837B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:13:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52JDGr09501; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:13:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15129.15052.387432.971174@localhost.econ.vt.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:13:16 -0400 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3COM 3C905TX / xl driver broken in -stable In-Reply-To: <20010602165158.A7027@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010602165158.A7027@freebie.demon.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Wilko Bulte (June 2, 2001): | For those of you who have missed it: | | the xl driver (or rather miibus) is broken in -stable as far as | the 3C905TX card goes. Really? knock [rdmurphy]% uname -a FreeBSD knock.econ.vt.edu 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Fri Jun 1 11:31:50 EDT 2001 rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK i386 knock [rdmurphy]% grep 3Com /var/run/dmesg.boot xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec80-0xecbf irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci2 xl1: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfbfdfc00-0xfbfdfc7f irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci2 RDM -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, Virginia 24061 (540) 231-4537 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:15:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F416F37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kingbiscuit@videotron.ca) Received: from oemcompuzoxb1u ([24.202.199.180]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GEBHI503.QD6 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c0eb01$aef684e0$1900a8c0@oemcompuzoxb1u> From: To: Subject: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:16:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB12.722FFC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB12.722FFC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB12.722FFC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0EB12.722FFC60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:19:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC0C37B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f52JJbF09544; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:19:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15129.15433.330417.348056@localhost.econ.vt.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:19:37 -0400 To: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3COM 3C905TX / xl driver broken in -stable In-Reply-To: <15129.15052.387432.971174@localhost.econ.vt.edu> References: <20010602165158.A7027@freebie.demon.nl> <15129.15052.387432.971174@localhost.econ.vt.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was perhaps too hasty; xl0 (3c905-TX) is for my laptop and I haven't used it for a week or two. The 3c905C-TX on xl1 is the public interface. My apologies. RDM According to Russell D. Murphy Jr. (June 2, 2001): | | According to Wilko Bulte (June 2, 2001): | | For those of you who have missed it: | | | | the xl driver (or rather miibus) is broken in -stable as far as | | the 3C905TX card goes. | | Really? | | knock [rdmurphy]% uname -a | FreeBSD knock.econ.vt.edu 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: | Fri Jun 1 11:31:50 EDT 2001 | rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK i386 | | knock [rdmurphy]% grep 3Com /var/run/dmesg.boot | xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> | port 0xec80-0xecbf irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci2 | xl1: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> | port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfbfdfc00-0xfbfdfc7f irq 11 | at device 12.0 on pci2 -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, Virginia 24061 (540) 231-4537 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:23:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B067C37B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD2E2700750; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:23:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3B193D2E.13A98AB3@urx.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:23:26 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Pete French , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jlemon@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) References: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> <20010602185006.C7587@freebie.demon.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 05:13:30PM +0100, Pete French wrote: > > > But you're right, in fact 3com cards 3c905 and 3c905c are quite > > > different. > > As far as I can see the general consensus is that we don't know yet ;) > > > It is the general consensu that this affect 3C905 cards only, not any of the > > other 3COM cards that use the xl driver ? I have a 3C900B-TPO in a remote > > machine that I was going to have a try at upgrading sometime in the near > > future - which might provide some more information, but I;d like to > > know if I have to plan to take an afternoon off to go to where the machine > > is physically locate in case it does not come up properly. > > Difficult to say based on the limited amount of data we have at the moment. Since I can set the media to 10baseTX, I didn't worry about trying things. On the 3C509-TX, the only thing that works so far is commenting out the write to the PHY, which is the one of the changes that Lemon made for the Intel card. /* PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); */ I deleted the or's to reg until only setting the led was left and then I backed it all out and commented the PHY_WRITE, which restored networking to the NIC. My system with a 3C509B-TX wasn't affected by the changes to mii/nsphy.c. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6975C37B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f52JS0C02501; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:28:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:28:00 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Kent Stewart Cc: Wilko Bulte , Pete French , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jlemon@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602142800.G82158@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> <20010602185006.C7587@freebie.demon.nl> <3B193D2E.13A98AB3@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3B193D2E.13A98AB3@urx.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:23:26PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > On the 3C509-TX, the only thing that works so far is commenting out the > write to the PHY, which is the one of the changes that Lemon made for the > Intel card. > > /* > PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); > */ > > I deleted the or's to reg until only setting the led was left and then I > backed it all out and commented the PHY_WRITE, which restored networking to > the NIC. > > My system with a 3C509B-TX wasn't affected by the changes to mii/nsphy.c. This is fairly useful to know. The register definitions come from the datasheet for the National part, so my guess is that the part used on the 3C509 doesn't quite conform to the National specification. Please try the following patch. This should change things so that the register is only touched for the fxp card; otherwise it is left alone. -- Jonathan Index: nsphy.c =================================================================== RCS file: /ncvs/src/sys/dev/mii/nsphy.c,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 nsphy.c --- nsphy.c 2001/03/16 14:17:02 1.8 +++ nsphy.c 2001/06/02 19:28:34 @@ -276,7 +276,9 @@ */ reg |= 0x0100 | 0x0400; - PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); + if (strcmp(device_get_name(device_get_parent(sc->mii_dev)), + "fxp") == 0) + PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); switch (IFM_SUBTYPE(ife->ifm_media)) { case IFM_AUTO: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:43: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.urx.com (mail.urx.com [63.170.19.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DB837B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: from urx.com [206.159.132.160] by mail.urx.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A1B611CA058E; Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:42:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3B1941B6.3FFD2782@urx.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 12:42:46 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Lemon Cc: Wilko Bulte , Pete French , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jlemon@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) References: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> <20010602185006.C7587@freebie.demon.nl> <3B193D2E.13A98AB3@urx.com> <20010602142800.G82158@prism.flugsvamp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:23:26PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > On the 3C509-TX, the only thing that works so far is commenting out the > > write to the PHY, which is the one of the changes that Lemon made for the > > Intel card. > > > > /* > > PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); > > */ > > > > I deleted the or's to reg until only setting the led was left and then I > > backed it all out and commented the PHY_WRITE, which restored networking to > > the NIC. > > > > My system with a 3C509B-TX wasn't affected by the changes to mii/nsphy.c. > > This is fairly useful to know. The register definitions come from the > datasheet for the National part, so my guess is that the part used on > the 3C509 doesn't quite conform to the National specification. > > Please try the following patch. This should change things so that > the register is only touched for the fxp card; otherwise it is left > alone. With this patch, my 3C509-TX works like it used to. Kent > -- > Jonathan > > Index: nsphy.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /ncvs/src/sys/dev/mii/nsphy.c,v > retrieving revision 1.8 > diff -u -r1.8 nsphy.c > --- nsphy.c 2001/03/16 14:17:02 1.8 > +++ nsphy.c 2001/06/02 19:28:34 > @@ -276,7 +276,9 @@ > */ > reg |= 0x0100 | 0x0400; > > - PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); > + if (strcmp(device_get_name(device_get_parent(sc->mii_dev)), > + "fxp") == 0) > + PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); > > switch (IFM_SUBTYPE(ife->ifm_media)) { > case IFM_AUTO: -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 12:54: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prism.flugsvamp.com (cb58709-a.mdsn1.wi.home.com [24.17.241.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C492D37B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@flugsvamp.com) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by prism.flugsvamp.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f52Jpw403195; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:51:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jlemon) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:51:58 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Kent Stewart Cc: Jonathan Lemon , Wilko Bulte , Pete French , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, jlemon@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with xl driver (cvsup 2001-06-02) Message-ID: <20010602145158.H82158@prism.flugsvamp.com> References: <20010602173041.A15232@f113.hadiko.de> <20010602185006.C7587@freebie.demon.nl> <3B193D2E.13A98AB3@urx.com> <20010602142800.G82158@prism.flugsvamp.com> <3B1941B6.3FFD2782@urx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <3B1941B6.3FFD2782@urx.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:42:46PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:23:26PM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > On the 3C509-TX, the only thing that works so far is commenting out the > > > write to the PHY, which is the one of the changes that Lemon made for the > > > Intel card. > > > > > > /* > > > PHY_WRITE(sc, MII_NSPHY_PCR, reg); > > > */ > > > > > > I deleted the or's to reg until only setting the led was left and then I > > > backed it all out and commented the PHY_WRITE, which restored networking to > > > the NIC. > > > > > > My system with a 3C509B-TX wasn't affected by the changes to mii/nsphy.c. > > > > This is fairly useful to know. The register definitions come from the > > datasheet for the National part, so my guess is that the part used on > > the 3C509 doesn't quite conform to the National specification. > > > > Please try the following patch. This should change things so that > > the register is only touched for the fxp card; otherwise it is left > > alone. > > With this patch, my 3C509-TX works like it used to. Thanks for testing! Patch has been committed. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 13: 8:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB5337B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:08:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from vpn5.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-4.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.4]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f52K7ug08174; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:07:42 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Garance A Drosihn , Morgan Davis , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG, Hajimu UMEMOTO , freebsd-print@bostonradio.org Subject: Re: lpd: Malformed from address Message-ID: <72810000.991512459@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, June 02, 2001 15:02:37 -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: +----- | be dropped...). My gut feeling is that the check is good to | do, which gets us back to finding out why the implementation | added with IPv6 does not seem to work for Morgan. +--->8 For what it's worth, LPRng dropped the check because it puts a severe limit on the number of incoming and outgoing print jobs, and many implementations (especially DOS/Windows ones) don't restrict ports at all because the whole concept of reserved ports is meaningless on them. There's a good discussion of the issues in the LPRng FAQ/HOWTO. -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 13:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-66.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD0837B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4729A673A5; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:43:29 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: clemensF , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is OpenBSD safer than other BSDs ? Message-ID: <20010602134329.C3646@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010601195419.3283ef01.joel.carnat@noos.fr> <20010602194109.C2630@spotteswoode.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="da4uJneut+ArUgXk" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from drosih@rpi.edu on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 03:06:03PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 03:06:03PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 7:41 PM +0200 6/2/01, clemensF wrote: > > > Ken Bolingbroke: > > > > > If I wanted an absolutely secure gateway just for security, > > > I would probably go with OpenBSD, because that's the focus. > > > But for general usage, FreeBSD has more features, and still > > > has enough of an effort on security concerns ... > > > >i'd like to know which features there are in freebsd in addition > >to openbsd's. is it the vm structure? kame? >=20 > While such a list could be useful, it would be mighty hard to > create and to keep accurate. Both FreeBSD and OpenBSD are > moving targets, and the list of differences between them will > certainly change on a monthly basis. You can get some idea by reading the release notes..these have become a very good list of feature/bug changes. Kris --da4uJneut+ArUgXk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7GU/wWry0BWjoQKURAv8MAKD80pX6K78eM2cziI0XKhBaOmHxpwCguhfh fjeJM8mzzAp4BpA4jNZfEgM= =yDFC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --da4uJneut+ArUgXk-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 14:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neko.cts.com (neko.cts.com [209.68.192.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E08737B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from venus.cts.com (venus.cts.com [216.120.25.34]) by neko.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12556; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (orion.cts.com [216.120.25.39]) by venus.cts.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f52LGAp10661; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: Cc: , , "'Hajimu UMEMOTO'" , , "'Garance A Drosihn'" Subject: RE: Malformed from address Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:16:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c0eba9$4f34e1c0$271978d8@cts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2511 In-Reply-To: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2475.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hajimu and Garance, et al: Thank you for checking into my lpd problem in 4.3-STABLE (as of May 29). You asked excellent questions, and here are my findings: 1. The trouble occurs when connecting to both systems via telnet (which having a reserved port number would make sense). Yet, when I connect via telnet to a FreeBSD 3.5 or 4.2 system, I get connected to the lpd port (515) with no error. This confirms your discovery that the check is new in 4.3. 2. However, under 4.3, connections from all Windows clients I have access to (three) now fail to print. They're all using IPv4 (in fact, IPv6 is completely disabled in the FreeBSD machines). The jobs get stuck in the Windows spooler. 3. Watching tcpdump, the ports from the client systems start above the priviledged port range (IPPORT_RESERVED). With each failure, they will reconnect and increment the originating port number. Here are the starting ports numbers I saw in tcpdump for various Windows OS flavors: 23xx - Windows XP Pro (build 2475) 11xx - Windows 2000 Pro 10xx - Windows 2000 Server These are listed in order of machine uptime. I had just rebooted the Win2K Server machine to do this test, so it must start at 1024 (IPPORT_RESERVED). 4. The printer configurations on the Windows machines are using a "Custom TCP/IP Printer Port" configuration (which just means they speak lpr to a port 515 device). Nothing unique or out of the ordinary in any of their network configurations. They're not going through NAT or anything that might molest the ports. In looking at the lpd.c code (and netinet/in.h), the logic in lpd.c's test seems to be wrong (or is missing a !): if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); This would imply that any port at or above the IPPORT_RESERVED threshhold is illegal, which (I think) is clearly wrong. Shouldn't it be < IPPORT_RESERVED? Or better still: if (error || atoi(serv) < IPPORT_RESERVED || atoi(serv) > IPPORT_HILASTAUTO) fatal(0, "Malformed from address or illegal port"); This protects the priviledged port range, but also gives clients enough free range as was mentioned in a later message by Brandon Allbery as a concern in the LPRng FAQ/HOWTO. Perhaps this is faulty thinking (forgive me, I'm not a FreeBSD hacker by trade), but after patching lpd.c, it works and I'm printing again. :-) --Morgan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Morgan Davis > Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 4:23 AM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: lpd: Malformed from address > > > After upgrading two different FreeBSD 4.2 systems to 4.3, they both > began to exhibit trouble when trying to print to their lpd processes. > Watching the raw traffic via tcpdump, both are failing > immediately when > lpd tries to resolve the connecting client's address in chkhost(): > > error = getnameinfo(f, f->sa_len, NULL, 0, serv, sizeof(serv), > NI_NUMERICSERV); > if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) > fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); > > It can be exercised via telnet: > > # telnet golf printer > Trying 205.163.23.102... > Connected to golf.cts.com. > Escape character is '^]'. > lpd: Malformed from address > Connection closed by foreign host. > > This happens on both systems, different kernels, one running named and > one not. What in the world could be causing this? > > --Morgan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 14:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from light.imasy.or.jp (light.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15BB37B43C; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by light.imasy.or.jp (8.11.3+3.4W/8.11.3/light/smtpfeed 1.12) with UUCP id f52Lnmg20768; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 06:49:48 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (IDENT:pKiQCSA9KdnuoKw4Xz4Tj8HkHyab7kfLMign8OLggPk0GRMlZz/hC6guMjmXOOCk@peace.mahoroba.org [3ffe:505:2:0:200:f8ff:fe05:3eae]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by mail.mahoroba.org (8.11.4/8.11.4/chaos) with ESMTP/inet6 id f52LnRc16537; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 06:49:27 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:49:24 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010603.064924.55505694.ume@mahoroba.org> To: mdavis@cts.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, security@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org, freebsd-print@bostonradio.org, drosih@rpi.edu Subject: Re: Malformed from address From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <000001c0eba9$4f34e1c0$271978d8@cts.com> References: <000001c0eb56$6d6ae250$241978d8@cts.com> <000001c0eba9$4f34e1c0$271978d8@cts.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b119 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:16:36 -0700 >>>>> "Morgan Davis" said: mdavis> 3. Watching tcpdump, the ports from the client systems start above the mdavis> priviledged port range (IPPORT_RESERVED). With each failure, they will mdavis> reconnect and increment the originating port number. Here are the mdavis> starting ports numbers I saw in tcpdump for various Windows OS flavors: mdavis> 23xx - Windows XP Pro (build 2475) mdavis> 11xx - Windows 2000 Pro mdavis> 10xx - Windows 2000 Server mdavis> These are listed in order of machine uptime. I had just rebooted the mdavis> Win2K Server machine to do this test, so it must start at 1024 mdavis> (IPPORT_RESERVED). Then, Windows is broken. printer client must bind source port to within IPPORT_RESERVED. mdavis> In looking at the lpd.c code (and netinet/in.h), the logic in lpd.c's mdavis> test seems to be wrong (or is missing a !): mdavis> if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) mdavis> fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); mdavis> This would imply that any port at or above the IPPORT_RESERVED mdavis> threshhold is illegal, which (I think) is clearly wrong. Shouldn't it mdavis> be < IPPORT_RESERVED? Or better still: This checking code is currect. r-authentication requires that connection comes from reserved port range. Please see iruserok_sa(3) manpage. mdavis> if (error || atoi(serv) < IPPORT_RESERVED || atoi(serv) > mdavis> IPPORT_HILASTAUTO) mdavis> fatal(0, "Malformed from address or illegal port"); This code is wrong. Since Unix's lpr do bind to reserved port, you will not be able to print from Unix boxes. If you wish to allow such broken connection, you can simply remove reserved port checking. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 15:23:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CB337B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f52MMc028768; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@wall.polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.11.3/8.11.0) id f52MMbR35496; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200106022222.f52MMbR35496@vashon.polstra.com> To: stable@freebsd.org From: John Polstra Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de Subject: Re: NIS/YP still broken! In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Hartmann, O. wrote: > > FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE has still a broken NIS/YP! If there are more than > one slave servers ypxfrd should spread its tables, push seems to > lock up and get a timeout. > > This was reported earlier here and I got a 'fix' for this but this fix > hasn't been merged in due it targets a sypmtome, not the cause itself. We would love to fix this, but unfortunately the people who can debug it have not been able to reproduce the problem. If you are willing to help, maybe you can debug it by remote control. :-) Currently, my best hypothesis about the cause of this problem is that yppush is reading from an invalid memory address which happens to fall into the region occupied by the dynamic linker. Thus making small changes to the dymamic linker causes the behavior of yppush to change. To test this hypothesis, let's try an experiment. Please apply the patch below to "/usr/src/usr.sbin/yppush/yppush_main.c": Index: yppush_main.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/yppush/yppush_main.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 yppush_main.c --- yppush_main.c 1999/08/28 01:21:09 1.11 +++ yppush_main.c 2001/06/02 21:35:11 @@ -545,6 +545,11 @@ struct hostlist *tmp; struct sigaction sa; + static char *rtld_base = (char *)0; /* Patch me */ + static char *rtld_limit = (char *)0; /* Patch me too */ + if (rtld_base != NULL && rtld_limit > rtld_base) + munmap(rtld_base, rtld_limit - rtld_base); + while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "d:j:p:h:t:v")) != -1) { switch(ch) { case 'd': Then rebuild and reinstall yppush like this: make clean make obj make depend DEBUG_FLAGS=-g make STRIP= make install and verify that the program is still failing. I hope it will still fail, or we are out of luck. As it is shown here, the patch should do nothing. Next you must determine where the dynamic linker is loaded, and patch the low and high limits into the two lines labeled "Patch me" and "Patch me too". You can do this as follows. Run yppush manually and see what its process ID is. While the program is still running, display its map file "/proc/PID/map". For example, if the process ID is 12345 you would want to see "/proc/12345/map". I recommend that you look at the file like this: dd bs=64k < /proc/12345/map since "cat" often doesn't work on these kinds of files. I hope that yppush will run long enough for you to snare this information. If it finishes too quickly, try adding a call ``sleep(30)'' just after the added lines in yppush_main.c. The map file will resemble this: 0x8048000 0x8049000 1 0 0xcb8a78a0 r-x 1 0 0x0 COW NC vnode 0x8049000 0x804a000 1 0 0xcb79d1e0 rw- 1 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default 0x28049000 0x2805a000 17 0 0xcb55a120 r-x 38 19 0x4 COW NC vnode 0x2805a000 0x2805b000 1 0 0xcb39b120 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC vnode 0x2805b000 0x2805d000 2 0 0xcb5c6a20 rw- 2 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default 0x2805d000 0x28065000 6 0 0xcb5c6a20 rwx 2 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default 0x28065000 0x280e2000 44 0 0xc0355a00 r-x 46 23 0x4 COW NC vnode 0x280e2000 0x280e7000 5 0 0xcb34f120 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC vnode 0x280e7000 0x280fb000 2 0 0xcb3c2240 rwx 1 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default 0xbfbe0000 0xbfc00000 4 0 0xcb45b600 rwx 1 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default except that I have added some blank lines to make it easier to explain. The first 3 groups of lines above correspond to (1) the program itself, (2) the dynamic linker, and (3) the shared library libc.so.4. The final line is the runtime stack. Except for the stack, each group begins with one or two "vnode" lines. That's how you can recognize where each group starts. The first two numbers in each line are the start and end+1 addresses of a region of memory. The first group is the executable, and the second group is the dynamic linker. As you can see, in this example the dynamic linker occupies the region starting at 0x28049000 and ending just below 0x28065000. The numbers you want to look at in the second group are these: |||||||||| VVVVVVVVVV 0x28049000 0x2805a000 17 0 0xcb55a120 r-x 38 19 0x4 COW NC vnode 0x2805a000 0x2805b000 1 0 0xcb39b120 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC vnode 0x2805b000 0x2805d000 2 0 0xcb5c6a20 rw- 2 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default 0x2805d000 0x28065000 6 0 0xcb5c6a20 rwx 2 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default ^^^^^^^^^^ |||||||||| Now take the first number and replace the 0 with it in the "Patch me" line. And take the second number and replace the 0 with it in the "Patch me too" line, like this: static char *rtld_base = (char *)0x28049000; /* Patch me */ static char *rtld_limit = (char *)0x28065000; /* Patch me too */ (The numbers will no doubt be different on your system.) Rebuild yppush again and install it the same way as you did before (with DEBUG=-g and STRIP= ). With the proper addresses patched in, yppush will unmap the dynamic linker from memory as soon as it starts up. So if anything in yppush tries to read from that region of memory, a segmentation violation will occur and you should get a core dump. With gdb, get a stack trace and send it to me in that case. There are a dozen things that could go wrong with this procedure, but I don't have any better ideas at the moment. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Chögyam Trungpa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 15:58: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.udlug.org (apollo.udlug.org [216.27.156.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3A4F637B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ruddy@udlug.org) Received: (qmail 19776 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Jun 2001 22:58:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Jun 2001 22:58:04 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:58:04 +0000 (GMT) From: "Bob C. Ruddy" To: Subject: install x11-fonts ports In-Reply-To: <20010602193229.A16562@woody.ichilton.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I must be doing something comletely stupid. I am trying to install some of the basic x11 fonts like the 75dpi fonts. I am using Xfree4. For example when in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi I type "make install" to install these fonts. I get the following errors. This box is running stable just before 4.3 came out. Thanks for any help. Bob ruddy@venus:/usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontdpi$ sudo make install ===> Configuring for XFree86-font75dpi-4.0.3 (cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings && imake - DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config -DTOPDIR=../ ../.. -DCURDIR=.; make Makefiles ; make includes ; make depend) "Makefile", line 758: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 760: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 761: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 762: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 763: Missing dependency operator "Makefile", line 765: Missing dependency operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font75dpi. ruddy@venus:/usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontdpi$ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 16: 6:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED6537B509 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjklist@ekahuna.com) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:06:27 -0700 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:06:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: problem with chflags Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Message-ID: <3B190F02.4646.4867F2@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:54:19 -0700 > From: "brian j. peterson" > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:06:55PM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > As I recall, brian j. peterson wrote: > > > as i learned very quickly the first time i tried to 'make world', > > > the directions in /usr/src/UPDATING are very general and leave out > > > several important steps of the process. > > > > I'd bet Warner would appreciate patches to incorporate those > > important steps... > > my main gripe with /usr/src/UPDATING (v 1.73.2.28 is the one i was > using) is that it suggests that you may need to go to singler user and > doesn't tell you what to do once there. for once, i decided to > actually follow the directions that were given and i ended up with a > system in single user with / mounted read-only and none of my other > filesystems even mounted. luckily, i had a windows box next to me > which allowed me to find the > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.h > tml page and figure out what to do. granted, i should probably have > known how to deal with things in single user better than i did, but i > figured the provided directions would be complete. based on what i > know, the easiest way to fix these directions would be the following > patch (again, this is against v 1.73.2.28 but should be easily > modified for RELENG_4): > > % diff -u /usr/src/UPDATING.orig /usr/src/UPDATING > - --- /usr/src/UPDATING.orig Wed May 2 22:23:04 2001 > +++ /usr/src/UPDATING Fri Jun 1 13:33:31 2001 > @@ -229,7 +229,7 @@ > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > - - reboot (in single user) [1] > + shutdown (into single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > @@ -239,9 +239,9 @@ > installworld, however, system components may break and other > oddities may happen. Don't do this on systems that aren't > otherwise quiet as unpredictable results may happen. If in > - - doubt, reboot into single user. For remote installs, keep > - - a separate kernel around and use a serial console if at all > - - possible. > + doubt, shutdown(8) into single user. For remote installs, > + keep a separate kernel around and use a serial console if at > + all possible. > > What follows are older entries for those people upgrading from > earlier versions of -stable/-current. > % > > correct me if i'm wrong, but shutdown(8) with no arguments should get > the system into single user with all the filesystems still mounted and > allow the 'make installworld' command to run without having to mess > with mounting/remounting filesystems. > > the most recent /usr/src/UPDATING (v 1.154) doesn't seem to suffer > from this problem since it doesn't mention single user at all. > > my (long-winded) two cents, > brian I disagree with that change because I have found that if you just shutdown to single-user installkernel and/or installworld sometimes won't work. I once had problems with the kernel security level as a result of that and the problem went away when rebooting to single-user. My procedure was based on the nice "cheatsheet" posted at http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd under "make world". (I'd give the direct URL but then it would bypass the frames which provide the rest of the context) I agree that things should be better documented, some of these have been pointed out in this thread, but to reiterate: 1) CVSup 2) Do buildworld and buildkernel in multi-user mode (I like to log each step so I see how long each step is taking and to find problems later, so I do something like this: cd /usr/src date >buildworld_2001-06-02_01 make buildworld |tee -a buildworld_2001-06-02_01 3) Clean out the old object files cd /usr/obj chflags -R noschg * rm -rf * (I *always* do a "pwd" before that one, to ensure I don't do something stupid :-) 4) *reboot* into single user shutdown -r now boot -s 5) mount filesystems R/W mount -a -t ufs 6) turn on swap (I've run into memory problems without this) swapon -a 7) Adjust the time if your clock isn't running UTC (thanks to Mark Andrews suggestion for this, I didn't know how to do this so I was using the 'date' command) adjkerntz -i 8) Make a backup of /etc in case something breaks cd / cp -pR /etc /etc.0602 9) Do the installkernel, installworld and log 10) Dan 'O Connor at the above site makes the useful suggestion to run mergemaster in 132-column mode to better see side-by-side diffs if necessary, and then I also send the output to a logfile. Bear in mind that if you have VESA support in your kernel and appropriate font directives to run a 132-column console, booting single-user doesn't parse rc.conf (rc.syscons?) so you have to manually load the font in order to use that mode: vidcontrol -f 8x8 /usr/share/syscons/fonts/iso-8x8.fnt vidcontrol 132x43 mergemaster -v -w 132 |tee mergemaster_2001-06-02_01 10a) Nowadays mergemaster will prompt to do the makedev and rebuild aliases steps the first time it's run, but if you run it again it *does not* do that so you need to do them manually if you didn't do them the first time. 11) Update sysinstall (step seems to be missing in all the docs, I found on 4.1/4.2 that if I didn't do this, sysinstall was all messed up: cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall make clean make all install 12) Reboot and cross fingers :-) -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 16:33:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wraith.shadowfarm.com (cr998773-a.etob1.on.wave.home.com [24.156.229.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A9F37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@shadowfarm.com) Received: from win2k (spirit.shadowfarm.com [192.168.1.3]) by wraith.shadowfarm.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f52NdBj35750 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brett@shadowfarm.com) Reply-To: From: "Brett Jackson" To: Subject: qpopper 4.0.2 vs 4.0.3 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:33:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is a port update coming out for qpopper 4.0.3 anytime soon? I am unable to install qpopper as it is looking for 4.0.2 which doesn't exist on any of the official ftp's (eudora.com) would you advise against the use of this program or have any others that you prefer? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 16:38:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B225E37B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 48084 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Jun 2001 23:38:24 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:38:24 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: brett@modlogic.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qpopper 4.0.2 vs 4.0.3 Message-ID: <20010602193824.A47514@databits.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brett@shadowfarm.com on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:33:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27839 It's super-trivial (ie: change version in Makefile && make makesum). -pete ++ 02/06/01 19:33 -0400 - Brett Jackson: | Is a port update coming out for qpopper 4.0.3 anytime soon? | I am unable to install qpopper as it is looking for 4.0.2 which doesn't | exist on any of the official ftp's (eudora.com) | | would you advise against the use of this program or have any others that you | prefer? | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 16:41: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E259737B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@hex.databits.net) Received: (qmail 48200 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Jun 2001 23:40:57 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:40:57 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: brett@modlogic.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qpopper 4.0.2 vs 4.0.3 Message-ID: <20010602194057.A48165@databits.net> References: <20010602193824.A47514@databits.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010602193824.A47514@databits.net>; from petef@databits.net on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:38:24PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, I just got to my cvs mailbox, and it looks like the update was committed just a bit ago: kris 2001/06/02 14:15:12 PDT Modified files: mail/qpopper Makefile distinfo Log: Jump back on the qpopper rollercoaster ride of doom and upgrade to 4.0.3, fixing another buffer overflow. -pete ++ 02/06/01 19:38 -0400 - Pete Fritchman: | http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27839 | | It's super-trivial (ie: change version in Makefile && make makesum). | | -pete | | ++ 02/06/01 19:33 -0400 - Brett Jackson: | | Is a port update coming out for qpopper 4.0.3 anytime soon? | | I am unable to install qpopper as it is looking for 4.0.2 which doesn't | | exist on any of the official ftp's (eudora.com) | | | | would you advise against the use of this program or have any others that you | | prefer? | | | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message | | -- | Pete Fritchman | Databits Network Services, Inc. | finger petef@databits.net for PGP key | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Pete Fritchman Databits Network Services, Inc. finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 16:41:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F016D37B43E for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 4A59113614; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:41:25 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: brett@modlogic.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qpopper 4.0.2 vs 4.0.3 Message-ID: <20010602194125.A48850@peitho.fxp.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brett@shadowfarm.com on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:33:15PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 07:33:15PM -0400, Brett Jackson wrote: > Is a port update coming out for qpopper 4.0.3 anytime soon? Updated a few hours ago: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/mail/qpopper/Makefile --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjsZeaQACgkQObaG4P6BelC0dQCeMTU78mOx2inDuxjY+DJXHsJr 8XsAnAhxTJNkzP8CM2Xt4pM7yLcYctuX =nWe8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 17: 4: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A15737B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:04:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 156LN8-00059e-00; Sun, 03 Jun 2001 00:03:58 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f5309pl01738; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:09:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:09:51 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3COM 3C905TX / xl driver broken in -stable Message-ID: <20010603020951.A1723@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010602165158.A7027@freebie.demon.nl> <15129.15052.387432.971174@localhost.econ.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <15129.15052.387432.971174@localhost.econ.vt.edu>; from rdmurphy@vt.edu on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 03:13:16PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 03:13:16PM -0400, Russell D. Murphy Jr. wrote: > > According to Wilko Bulte (June 2, 2001): > | For those of you who have missed it: > | > | the xl driver (or rather miibus) is broken in -stable as far as > | the 3C905TX card goes. > > Really? Really: xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xe000-0xe03f irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0 On this one. > > knock [rdmurphy]% uname -a > FreeBSD knock.econ.vt.edu 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: > Fri Jun 1 11:31:50 EDT 2001 > rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK i386 > > knock [rdmurphy]% grep 3Com /var/run/dmesg.boot > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> > port 0xec80-0xecbf irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci2 > xl1: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> > port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfbfdfc00-0xfbfdfc7f irq 11 > at device 12.0 on pci2 > > RDM > > -- > Russell D. Murphy > Department of Economics > Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University > Blacksburg, Virginia 24061 > (540) 231-4537 ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/[alpha,x86] http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 17:33:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B05637B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA57864; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:33:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200106030033.UAA57864@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Yoshihiro.Koya@math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp Subject: Re: time_t definition is worng X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <20010603012933K.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> References: <20010602085237.A73968@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010603010518C.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> <20010602091643.C73968@dragon.nuxi.com> Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20010603012933K.koya@pluto.math.yokohama-cu.ac.jp> you write: >The pw->pw_chage and pw->pw_passwd are of time_t. But, in the above, >%ld is used for them. This is a general problem; there is no portable way to print a time_t that does not include the following steps: 1) Determine whether time_t is integral, floating-point, or (new in C99) complex. 2) If time_t is integral, determine whether it is signed or unsigned. 3) If the compilation environment is not C99, and time_t is integral, cast to (appropriately signed) long and print with %ld or %lu as appropriate. If the compilation environment is (close enough to) C99, case to (appropriately signed) intmax_t and print with %jd or %ju as appropriate. If time_t is floating-point, cast to long double and print with %Lf. If time_t is complex, you have a lot more serious problems to deal with. There is a simple way around this, for POSIX systems only: use strftime() with the %s format. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 17:48: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C79437B422 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 17:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42B296ACC0; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:17:56 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 10:17:56 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Steve Price Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vinum panic Message-ID: <20010603101756.P87716@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010602121353.N688@bsd.havk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010602121353.N688@bsd.havk.org>; from steve@havk.org on Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:13:53PM -0500 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, 2 June 2001 at 12:13:53 -0500, Steve Price wrote: > I've been trying for several days now to get a RAID5 volume > setup on a new box and no matter what I've tried it always > ends up panic'ing the kernel where I try to create the volume. > > Here's my configuration file: > > drive d1 device /dev/da1s1e > drive d2 device /dev/da2s1e > drive d3 device /dev/da3s1e > drive d4 device /dev/da4s1e > drive d5 device /dev/da5s1e > volume raid > plex org raid5 512k > sd length 17626m drive d1 > sd length 17626m drive d2 > sd length 17626m drive d3 > sd length 17626m drive d4 > sd length 17626m drive d5 > > I've decided that I would skip RAID5 and do RAID10 instead > because I've had success with it before. So after the crash > here's what I did. > > vinum > vinum -> resetconfig > vinum -> saveconfig > vinum -> stop > newfs /dev/da1s1e > newfs /dev/da2s1e > newfs /dev/da3s1e > newfs /dev/da4s1e > newfs /dev/da5s1e So far all of this is unnecessary. > disklabel -e /dev/da1s1e # change 4.2BSD to vinum for 'e' > disklabel -e /dev/da2s1e > disklabel -e /dev/da3s1e > disklabel -e /dev/da4s1e > disklabel -e /dev/da5s1e > vinum > vinum -> mirror -v -n raid10 -s /dev/da2s1e /dev/da3s1e /dev/da4s1e /dev/da5s1e > drive vinumdrive0 device /dev/da2s1e > vinum: drive vinumdrive0 is up > Can't create drive vinumdrive0, device /dev/da2s1e: Invalid argument (22) > vinum -> printconfig > # Vinum configuration of , saved at Sat Jun 2 07:09:00 2001 > vinum -> ls > vinum -> ld > vinum -> lv > vinum -> lp > vinum -> quit > > How can vinumdrive0 be up when it isn't defined? > > Anyone have any pointers to help down the road to vinum nirvana? Well, I'd start off by reading the section DEBUGGING PROBLEMS WITH VINUM in vinum(4), or http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html, or both. Basically, I have almost no information to go on. What was the panic? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 19: 1:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from leviathan.inethouston.net (216-118-21-146.pdq.net [216.118.21.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AAB37B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwcjr@inethouston.net) Received: from dwcjr (DWCJR.inethouston.net [216.118.21.147]) by leviathan.inethouston.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B32A10F40F; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:01:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001301c0ebd1$14648c80$931576d8@inethouston.net> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: Cc: "stable" Subject: ftp and www hosts Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:01:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there a way to patch the ftp binary to send along "Host: " when connecting to a web server so ports like webfs can be downloaded. Currently ftp won't connect to http://bytesex.org/misc/ to download webfs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 19:10:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D833537B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEEA3E32; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:10:38 -0700 (PDT) To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, "stable" Subject: Re: ftp and www hosts In-Reply-To: <001301c0ebd1$14648c80$931576d8@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on "Sat, 2 Jun 2001 21:01:18 -0500" Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 19:10:38 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010603021038.8AEEA3E32@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "David W. Chapman Jr." writes: > Is there a way to patch the ftp binary to send along "Host: " when > connecting to a web server so ports like webfs can be downloaded. Currently > ftp won't connect to http://bytesex.org/misc/ to download webfs The ports collection only uses ftp(1) if it can't find fetch(1): .if exists(/usr/bin/fetch) # avoid -A for 2.2 -- it's not ported to that branch .if ${OSVERSION} < 300000 FETCH_CMD?= /usr/bin/fetch .else FETCH_CMD?= /usr/bin/fetch -A .endif #FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS+= $${CKSIZE:+-S $$CKSIZE} .else FETCH_CMD?= /usr/bin/ftp .endif And fetch(1) supports HTTP/1.1, so it doesn't have this problem: dima@hornet% fetch http://bytesex.org/misc/webfs_1.12.tar.gz Receiving webfs_1.12.tar.gz (35032 bytes): 100% 35032 bytes transferred in 1.0 seconds (33.71 kBps) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 19:18:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neko.cts.com (neko.cts.com [209.68.192.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5867637B424; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) Received: from venus.cts.com (venus.cts.com [216.120.25.34]) by neko.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29335; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (orion.cts.com [216.120.25.39]) by venus.cts.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f532IhF00813; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mdavis@cts.com) From: "Morgan Davis" To: "'Hajimu UMEMOTO'" Cc: , , , , Subject: RE: Malformed from address Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:19:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2511 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2475.0000 In-Reply-To: <20010603.064924.55505694.ume@mahoroba.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hajimu UMEMOTO writes: > Then, Windows is broken. And, FreeBSD is also seriously outnumbered. > printer client must bind source port to within IPPORT_RESERVED. "Yeah, right." -- Bill Gates :-) I wonder if this imposition was a result of the lpd having a dual role as spooler and server. When lpd runs its spool and connects to a remote print server, you have a server-server arrangement rather than the more common client-server model. Is it right for lpd to force all connections to act as if they were really servers? It may be heretical to state this, but the way that Windows does it, grabbing free ports from the dynamic pool, makes sense in a client-server context. > If you wish to allow such > broken connection, you can simply remove reserved port checking. The restriction in lpd.c breaks printing from the vast majority of computers in this neck of the galaxy. And, there's no fix, other than for each admin to "simply" patch lpd.c, recompile, and deploy throughout their enterprise? I suggest that a compile-time option or a command line flag be added so that the port checking is selectable. (My vote is for a runtime flag that disables port checking or allows you to specify your own acceptable range.) Otherwise, the new behavior will surely impact more people than it serves to protect. While I'm making lpd suggestions, it would be very nice if it were smarter about using syslog or its own -d and -l capabilities to truly log fatal() error messages, rather than spewing them uselessly into stdout (or the socket stream). That doesn't do an administrator any good, until they resort to watching raw packets after hours of troubleshooting their network configuration, client configuration, hosts.lpd file, hosts.equiv file, spool directory permissions, etc., etc. How many have been bit by clients that wouldn't print, only to find that it was because they weren't in hosts.lpd, the client IP addresses changed or a forward/reverse DNS error was introduced, etc? Such a common problem, yet lpd makes it harder than it should be to detect. Garance, what do you think? --Morgan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 19:24: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.236.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AA337B422; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allbery@ece.cmu.edu) Received: from vpn5.ece.cmu.edu (ANNEX-4.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.4]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f532Nlg24746; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 22:23:44 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Morgan Davis , "'Hajimu UMEMOTO'" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, security@FreeBSD.ORG, wollman@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-print@bostonradio.org, drosih@rpi.edu Subject: RE: Malformed from address Message-ID: <153770000.991535023@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> References: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Saturday, June 02, 2001 19:19:09 -0700, Morgan Davis wrote: +----- | > printer client must bind source port to within IPPORT_RESERVED. | | "Yeah, right." -- Bill Gates :-) +--->8 If you want to be pedantic, the source port is supposed to be between 729 and 739 IIRC. Which is a ridiculous restriction that causes lpd to fall flat on its face when used with 50+ printers and several hundred clients. (But as someone else noted, the test was in fact backwards and *rejected* reserved ports, so it should be at minimum fixed and at best removed or made configurable.) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 20:25:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8740137B423; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f533OwS14418; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:24:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> References: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:24:52 -0400 To: "Morgan Davis" , "'Hajimu UMEMOTO'" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: RE: Malformed from address Cc: , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 7:19 PM -0700 6/2/01, Morgan Davis wrote: >Hajimu UMEMOTO writes: >> Then, Windows is broken. > >And, FreeBSD is also seriously outnumbered. > >> printer client must bind source port to within IPPORT_RESERVED. > >"Yeah, right." -- Bill Gates :-) Consider the example of lpr at RPI. We accept print jobs from hundreds of unix clients which are administered by "us" (the computer center). While we have control of administration of those machines, there are 5,000 to 10,000 people who can log into those same machines. We haven't figured out how to control those users... :-) Our print servers do accept jobs from those machines based on the hostname. That does not mean we want to allow all those thousands of users to *telnet* into lpd on the print servers, and send their own little fake jobs, just like you were doing in your testing. We do not accept jobs from many Windows hosts (not directly into lpd, that is). Almost all our windows users have to go thru samba, because we charge users for their printouts and we have be pretty confident that we KNOW the userid to charge to. [and for the few windows boxes we DO accept jobs from, we have some other RPI-specific changes so all jobs from those hosts are charged to a specific userid -- no matter what userid is listed in control-files for print jobs from that host. That's one of the changes I hope to sort out and incorporate into FreeBSD's lpr] So in our environment, there is absolutely no way we can allow connections from non-reserved ports. Not unless we make some major changes to lpd (which is always an option, given enough caffeine and a long enough weekend...). > > If you wish to allow such >> broken connection, you can simply remove reserved port checking. > >The restriction in lpd.c breaks printing from the vast majority >of computers in this neck of the galaxy. And, there's no fix, >other than for each admin to "simply" patch lpd.c, recompile, >and deploy throughout their enterprise? I can see that the reserved-port restriction might be problematic in other environments, particularly since it has not been enforced for the past four years. I also agree that administrators should not have to patch and recompile lpd to get the behavior they want. >I suggest that a compile-time option or a command line flag be >added so that the port checking is selectable. (My vote is for >a runtime flag that disables port checking or allows you to >specify your own acceptable range.) This is a reasonable "quick fix". I am in the middle of a rather involved update to lpr/lpd right this minute, but I'd be willing to add an option to lpd to specify if the administrator wants lpd to do the port checking. I could write something up for that within the next week. As a security matter, I think it should do the port checking by default, and the option would be to turn that checking off. If we take a little time to ponder the matter, a better (but more involved) fix would be to have two lists of allowed hosts. In my case, I can not afford to accept non-reserved-port connections from Unix hosts which we do administer, but we might want to allow that for other machines (such as windows boxes). Perhaps /etc/hosts.lpd and /etc/hosts.lpd-special or something. I would certainly have to think about it some more, and figure out what the best thing to do is. Thus, this would be something to consider as a longer-term improvement. >While I'm making lpd suggestions, it would be very nice if it >were smarter about using syslog or its own -d and -l capabilities >to truly log fatal() error messages, rather than spewing them >uselessly into stdout (or the socket stream). Hmm. Not sure what you mean here. At least at RPI, we DO get error messages in logfiles, at least for some kinds of errors. What do you have for 'lpr'-ish entries in your /etc/syslog.conf ? If there is a problem there, I could look into that too, but I would want to be a little careful that lpd won't open up any new denial-of-service attacks. >How many have been bit by clients that wouldn't print, only to >find that it was because they weren't in hosts.lpd, the client >IP addresses changed or a forward/reverse DNS error was >introduced, etc? I know that we have SOME logfile entries when hosts are not in hosts.lpd, for instance. Maybe we turn up logging, or maybe it's just some other difference between RPI's lpd and freebsd's. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 20:36:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0528C37B423; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f533aHS51242; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:36:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <153770000.991535023@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> References: <000801c0ebd3$932adae0$271978d8@cts.com> <153770000.991535023@vpn5.ece.cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:36:14 -0400 To: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" , Morgan Davis , "'Hajimu UMEMOTO'" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: RE: Malformed from address Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, security@FreeBSD.org, wollman@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-print@bostonradio.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:23 PM -0400 6/2/01, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: >On Saturday, June 02, 2001, Morgan Davis wrote: >+----- >| > printer client must bind source port to within IPPORT_RESERVED. >| >| "Yeah, right." -- Bill Gates :-) >+--->8 > >If you want to be pedantic, the source port is supposed to be >between 729 and 739 IIRC. Which is a ridiculous restriction >that causes lpd to fall flat on its face when used with 50+ >printers and several hundred clients. I don't understand this statement, but then I will have to admit I am not an expert in network programming under Unix. In any case, we have about five print servers, which drive something like 200+ print queues, and those servers accept jobs from about 600 different hosts. I am not aware of lpd falling flat on it's fact here...in fact it seems to work reasonably well. Isn't this port range only going to be a limiting factor on the SENDING machine? In that case, the issue is not how many printers you have, but how many different users on a single machine might be printing to different remote-printers at the same time. If that is the issue, then I can believe that we (here at RPI) might just happen to avoid the problem. >(But as someone else noted, the test was in fact backwards and >*rejected* reserved ports, so it should be at minimum fixed >and at best removed or made configurable.) When you catch up with the recent email, you'll see that the check is correct. It does not reject reserved ports, obviously, as then it would have to reject jobs from other unix machines. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 22:11:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ogyo.pointer-software.com (ogyo.pointer-software.com [210.164.96.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF2A37B424 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from horio@pointer-software.com) Received: from long.near.this (long.near.this [10.0.172.9]) by ogyo.pointer-software.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f535BPF18314 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:11:25 +0900 (JST) Received: from pointer-software.com (char.near.this [10.0.172.11]) by long.near.this (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f535BOP44369 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:11:24 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3B19C6FC.9B74A1CF@pointer-software.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 14:11:24 +0900 From: horio shoichi Organization: pointer software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [ja] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18pre21 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Malformed from address References: <000001c0eba9$4f34e1c0$271978d8@cts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morgan Davis wrote: > > In looking at the lpd.c code (and netinet/in.h), the logic in lpd.c's > test seems to be wrong (or is missing a !): > > if (error || atoi(serv) >= IPPORT_RESERVED) > fatal(0, "Malformed from address"); > > This would imply that any port at or above the IPPORT_RESERVED > threshhold is illegal, which (I think) is clearly wrong. Shouldn't it > be < IPPORT_RESERVED? Or better still: > > --Morgan > rfc 1179 states: 3.1 Message formats LPR is a a TCP-based protocol. The port on which a line printer daemon listens is 515. The source port must be in the range 721 to 731, inclusive. A line printer daemon responds to commands send to so lpd.c implementation is politically correct. (However, to be religiously correct, checking the source port number precisely within the range is necessary. Interestingly CultBSD only checks if source port is 20.) Since modifying source ends up in political (or religious) war, avoid using lpd. instead consider move to LPRng. It has the nice feature of breaking the rfc, which means connection from ephemeral ports are allowed, which in turn means lpr, lprm, and lpq do not require setuid root. In fact, a part of my LPRng-3.7.4 directory: =2=troll/opt1/horio/HOT> ls -l /usr/local/lpr/bin total 2996 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 11 06:17 ./ drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Apr 11 06:17 ../ lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Apr 11 06:17 cancel@ -> lprm lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Apr 11 06:17 lp@ -> lpr -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 365460 Apr 11 06:17 lpq* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 378388 Apr 11 06:17 lpr* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 363412 Apr 11 06:17 lprm* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 368884 Apr 11 06:17 lpstat* =3=troll/opt1/horio/HOT> file /usr/local/lpr/bin/lp* /usr/local/lpr/bin/lp: symbolic link to lpr /usr/local/lpr/bin/lpq: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, stripped /usr/local/lpr/bin/lpr: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, stripped /usr/local/lpr/bin/lprm: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, stripped /usr/local/lpr/bin/lpstat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (FreeBSD), dynamically linked, stripped =4=troll/opt1/horio/HOT> HTH, horio shoichi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 22:14:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCB737B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 22:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (helo=den2) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 156QDC-0002Jn-00; Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:14:02 +1200 From: "Juha Saarinen" To: "'horio shoichi'" , Subject: RE: Malformed from address Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:13:33 +1200 Message-ID: <067601c0ebeb$efbcbea0$0a01a8c0@den2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3B19C6FC.9B74A1CF@pointer-software.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :: necessary. Interestingly CultBSD only checks if source port is 20.) ^^^^^^^^^^^ Wot dat? -- Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Jun 2 23:22:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C83637B423; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-92-252.knology.net [24.214.92.252]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f536M8H15043; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:22:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3395B1A821; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:22:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 01:22:07 -0500 From: Steve Price To: Greg Lehey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vinum panic Message-ID: <20010603012207.A15922@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010602121353.N688@bsd.havk.org> <20010603101756.P87716@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010603101756.P87716@wantadilla.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 10:17:56AM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 10:17:56AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > vinum > > vinum -> resetconfig > > vinum -> saveconfig > > vinum -> stop > > newfs /dev/da1s1e > > newfs /dev/da2s1e > > newfs /dev/da3s1e > > newfs /dev/da4s1e > > newfs /dev/da5s1e > > So far all of this is unnecessary. Right. I realize that now after having tried to no avail to get vinum to forget about previous attempts that failed or crashed this box. It essentially went like this. Try to create a RAID5 volume. Panic. Okay so take a couple of steps back and create a RAID1 volume. That worked. Okay now try to get vinum to forget about that configuration and do a RAID10 configuration now. No dice. It refused to forget about the previous RAID1 configuration. I did all of the above in a number different orders and nothing worked. Not even redoing the RAID1 configuration that had worked before. > Well, I'd start off by reading the section DEBUGGING PROBLEMS WITH > VINUM in vinum(4), or http://www.vinumvm.org/vinum/how-to-debug.html, > or both. Basically, I have almost no information to go on. What was > the panic? Thanks for the reply Greg. I finally figured out how to make it work. Basically I newfs'd the partitions, ran 'vinum create', and then changed the type to vinum. This was the only way I could get vinum to not try to "add on" to my previous failed attempts. It seems to work great so I'm going to leave well enough alone until I get another box with a similar setup that I can play with. Is there a better way than 'vinum resetconfig' to get vinum to forget everything you've told it about volumes, plexes, disks, ... than resorting to what I did? The nature of the description in the manpage that I read at least a dozen times in the last couple of days lead me to believe this would do what I wanted, but try as I might it didn't do what I expected nor what I interpreted the manpage said it did. One thing that I failed to mention in the previous post was that despite having run 'vinum resetconfig', 'vinum dumpconfig' still returned information that looked like it was from previous attempts. Not setting the partition/slice type to vinum until after I ran 'vinum create' seems to have worked around this. Thanks. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message