From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 2:44:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F04B37B406; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id B780913B; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:44:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:44:32 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: David Kelly Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , Alfatrion , "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014104432.L31066@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , David Kelly , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , Alfatrion , "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011012154307.O52936-100000@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de> <003601c15328$db264480$24b4a8c0@pretorian> <3BC700CE.8000201@cybertron.tmfweb.nl> <010001c15331$23f1da00$3028680a@tgt.com> <20011012130628.A11301@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011012130628.A11301@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 01:06:28PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 01:06:28PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: >=20 > The only problem I have with the "failed to write back packet" message > is that it doesn't say enough about why the packet was dropped. Or > details about the packet which was dropped. The best "cure" i've found > is to set natd's logging facility to "security" so both natd and ipfw > log to /var/log/security (default /etc/syslog.conf) placing both what > natd say and ipfw say close enough in one file to connect both views of > the same incident. Easily fixed. Just run 'natd -v' and you'll get more verbose output. Joe --1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvJXoAACgkQXVIcjOaxUBbHfQCg7hqFw/VC6OGiDsAkpMsBBfbI AmoAoOYsAhdkaQyOzhiCrm9dXM0JsyNt =b/QE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1hKfHPzOXWu1rh0v-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 2:47:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6A837B40D; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id EBC66124; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:47:22 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:47:22 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Henrik Holmstam Cc: Kenneth Wayne Culver , Alfatrion , "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014104722.M31066@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Henrik Holmstam , Kenneth Wayne Culver , Alfatrion , "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011012185458.K69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="kunpHVz1op/+13PW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011012185458.K69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net>; from turbo@lamering.org on Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 06:56:48PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --kunpHVz1op/+13PW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 06:56:48PM +0200, Henrik Holmstam wrote: >=20 > Can IPFW keep state on UDP and ICMP as IPFilter can? >=20 Yes, I'm using it for udp keep-state on several sites. It was very easy to setup and worked first time. # ipfw show | grep keep-state 01300 22289 3500378 allow udp from ${mynetwork} to any keep-state Joe p.s. I removed the network number and replaced it with ${mynetwork} in the output above. --kunpHVz1op/+13PW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjvJXyoACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZ4CQCgnhVw9zoVplVDw7NrBQFK5clG /3UAoIHlf0PLAJecJTlhh2wXfUi3Jx8/ =xOd0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --kunpHVz1op/+13PW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 3:49:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailrelay.netcologne.de (mailrelay.netcologne.de [194.8.194.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4788C37B405 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 03:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dial-213-168-64-73.netcologne.de [213.168.64.73]) by mailrelay.netcologne.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9EAne709667 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:49:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: (qmail 574 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Oct 2001 10:48:43 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:48:43 +0200 From: Thomas Seck To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: LPRng cannot assign port 515 via rc.d script anymore Message-ID: <20011014124843.A449@hardy.seck.home> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Organization: private site in Germany X-PGP-KeyID: DF46EE05 X-PGP-Fingerprint: A38F AE66 6B11 6EB9 5D1A B67D 2444 2FE1 DF46 EE05 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, LPRng cannot reserve port 515 at boot time via the /usr/local/etc/rc.d script anymore. Instead, port 1024 is being assigned to it by the system. The system was rebuilt from sources which were cvsupped from cvsup3.de on Oct. 13. When I run the scripts manually, they work as expected. The problem occurs with a custom and the GENERIC kernel as well. The system built from Oct 6's sources did not have this problem. Any ideas? Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 4:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ash25.adelaide.on.net (mail.internode.on.net [203.16.214.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586C537B409 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 04:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vee.net ([203.18.245.2]) by internode.on.net (PMDF V6.0-24 #37831) with ESMTP id <01K9I6CCGPEU000Z8X@internode.on.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:43:49 +0930 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:43:45 +0930 From: Mike Gratton Subject: "wi0: watchdog timout" on 4.4-R To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-au, en-gb, en-us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011012 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm having trouble getting a Elan PCI to PCMCIA adapter working with a Lucent WaveLAN card on a stock, desktop installation of 4.4-R. Initially, it wouldn't recognise the card at all, with pccardd giving a: pccardd: No card in database for ""("") Then, after following Elan's suggestions for Linux; I disabled ISA IRQs and made sure it was doing interrupt polling, I also recompiled the kernel without any isa config for the pcic driver: hw.pcic.intr_routing=2 hw.pcic.irq=0 device card device pcic0 device pcic1 And a combination of the above appeared to get the card recognised by pccardd after I insert it. Now, I'm getting the following logged after inserting the card: wi0: watchdog timeout Everything else looks like it is configured okay. Ifconfig reports wi0 is attached correctly, the ssid is set, ip address assigned, everything looks good, but it just doesn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Mike. -- Mike Gratton "Every motive escalate." Blatant self-promotion: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 4:23:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ash25.adelaide.on.net (mail.internode.on.net [203.16.214.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A0337B401 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 04:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vee.net ([203.18.245.2]) by internode.on.net (PMDF V6.0-24 #37831) with ESMTP id <01K9I6IO9DGI000XVZ@internode.on.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:48:55 +0930 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:48:51 +0930 From: Mike Gratton Subject: Re: "wi0: watchdog timout" on 4.4-R To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3BC9749B.1010501@vee.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-au, en-gb, en-us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011012 References: <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Gratton wrote: > > > hw.pcic.intr_routing=2 Err, that was of course: hw.pcic.intr_path=2 FWIW, setting hw.pcic.init_routing to 0 or 1 had no effect, either. Mike. -- Mike Gratton "Every motive escalate." Blatant self-promotion: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 6:20:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (smtp.sw.oz.au [203.31.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404E837B403 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 06:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vance@localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id XAA02939 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:20:19 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:20:19 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any reason why FreeBSD ipfilter is compiled without ipv6? Does it not work, or is nobody FreeBSDish interested? I'd prefer something to keep state, so ip6fw isn't quite what I want. -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 6:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipv6.lamering.org (h235n2fls34o847.telia.com [213.67.19.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C3037B401 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 06:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 60779 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Oct 2001 13:26:27 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:26:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Henrik Holmstam X-X-Sender: To: Christopher Vance Cc: Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 In-Reply-To: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> Message-ID: <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Christopher Vance wrote: > Is there any reason why FreeBSD ipfilter is compiled without ipv6? > Does it not work, or is nobody FreeBSDish interested? > > I'd prefer something to keep state, so ip6fw isn't quite what I want. > > -- > Christopher Vance > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > Is it? I'm using default IPFilter on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE with ipv6 and it works just fine. I'm keeping state and have rules with 'proto ipv6' with no problems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 9: 8: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from b80216.upc-b.chello.nl (b80216.upc-b.chello.nl [212.83.80.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC78037B407 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adv.devet.org (adv.devet.org [192.168.1.2]) by b80216.upc-b.chello.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3120068CC for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:07:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by adv.devet.org (Postfix, from userid 100) id C98C73E13; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:07:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:07:56 +0200 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> References: <20011012185458.K69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011012184741.D6274@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.stable Organization: Eindhoven, the Netherlands From: devet@devet.org (Arjan de Vet) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <20011012184741.D6274@blossom.cjclark.org> you write: >"Keeping state" on UDP (a stateless protocol, BTW) is pretty easy. You >see a packet, > > : -> : > >So you then allow, > > : -> : > >To go through for a while. ipfw(8) dynamic rules will handle this just >fine. In the case of ipfilter keeping state on UDP connections will also allow some ICMP messages (like 'host unreachable' or 'port unreachable') that are 'related' to that particular UDP connection to pass through. >ICMP is another issue. Doing something like, > > pass icmp from any to any out via keep-state > >Will let you ping the rest of the word and even let Windows-style >traceroutes work, but that's because it works like this: > > : -> > >Creates a dynamic rule, > > pass icmp from to > >That is, _any_ ICMP from to is passed for the >dynamic's rule lifetime. IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be allowed to pass through. Arjan -- Arjan de Vet, Eindhoven, The Netherlands URL: http://www.iae.nl/users/devet/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 9:16:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194537B407 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9EGG5x37636; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:16:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:16:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? In-Reply-To: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.4-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Arjan de Vet wrote: > In article <20011012184741.D6274@blossom.cjclark.org> you write: > [...] > >Will let you ping the rest of the word and even let Windows-style > >traceroutes work, but that's because it works like this: > > > > : -> > > > >Creates a dynamic rule, > > > > pass icmp from to > > > >That is, _any_ ICMP from to is passed for the > >dynamic's rule lifetime. > > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be > allowed to pass through. That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, communication prohibited etc. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 10:53:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gigi.excite.com (gigi.excite.com [199.172.152.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C219037B408; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patti.excite.com ([199.172.148.159]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20011014175342.UKXH17391.gigi.excite.com@patti.excite.com>; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:53:42 -0700 Message-ID: <12199010.1003082022454.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Sykes To: John Hay Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 66.3.230.250 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:12:58 +0200 (SAT), John Hay wrote: > > > > kernel: 4.4-STABLE motherboard: P2L97-DS, dual Pentium II 300MHZ > > > > top shows 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > idle > > > > WCPU and CPU show 0.00% for all processes in top and ps. > > > > Go and look in the old freebsd-smp archives for this message: > > Message-Id: <199906151902.VAA96921@midten.fast.no> > > It is message by Tor Egge and describes the problem. I have the > same motherboard and that patch did the job. I'm running -current > nowadays and the code does not look like that anymore so i have > changed the patch for current, but I do not have new patches for > -stable, so if that doesn't aplly anymore you will have to tweak > them by hand. Thanks to everyone who responded. It's good to know at least I'm not going crazy; that however meticulously I was following the instructions for kernel config and install, it was still broken because I needed this patch. Unfortunately the patch cannot be applied even manually (I happen to be a programmer) to 4.4-STABLE. The patch expects pcici_t types, whereas the -stable source needs device_t types (maybe they are just typedefs of one another, I did a grep -r but couldn't find the definition). Much more importantly, though ... why isn't this patch included in 4.4-STABLE? When you say you changed the patch for -current, does this mean it is IN -current, or that you have a patch which you re-apply every time you cvsup? If the latter, why isn't it in -current as well? The number of hours I've spent on this problem is now embarassingly long --- looking through google, looking through mail archives, disabling apm on/off with flags on/off with patch (the one that didn't work) applied/not-applied then rebuilding world and kernel each time according to /usr/src/UPDATING, then testing with bios 1.005/1.008 and kern.timecounter.method=0/1. What can I do to assure that nobody has to do this again? And, since I still have a broken FreeBSD kernel, how do I to fix it? Am I just out of luck with this motherboard? --Matt _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 11:16:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536D537B408 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (c2ce77f8.fsp.oleane.fr [194.206.119.248]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f9EIGLE51070 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC7071D4; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:00:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:00:34 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014200034.B93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Arjan de Vet wrote: > > > > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an > > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be > > allowed to pass through. > > That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of > ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, > communication prohibited etc. Yes, this is exactly how ipfilter works. "keep state" will let properly formated icmp errors pass through, the underlying protocol being tcp, udp or icmp. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 11:16:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DE837B40A for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (c2ce77f8.fsp.oleane.fr [194.206.119.248]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f9EIGLE51071 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C4F7C1D3; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:15:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:15:57 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net>; from turbo@lamering.org on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:26:27PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:26:27PM +0200, Henrik Holmstam wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Christopher Vance wrote: > > > Is there any reason why FreeBSD ipfilter is compiled without ipv6? > > Does it not work, or is nobody FreeBSDish interested? I don't think IPFilter is IPv6-ready. There's some support but I don't think it's stable or tested enough at this point. I may be wrong. > > I'd prefer something to keep state, so ip6fw isn't quite what I want. > > Is it? I'm using default IPFilter on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE with ipv6 and it > works just fine. I'm keeping state and have rules with 'proto ipv6' with > no problems. "ipv6" in this context means "v6 in v4". It means you're filtering IPv6 packets based on the IPv4 tunnel end-point address, which is better than nothing but still far from ideal. IPFilter compiled with IPv6 support needs *two* different set of rules. One for v4 and one for v6. The v6 set is managed with "ipf -6" instead of "ipf". See ipf(1) : OPTIONS -6 This option is required to parse IPv6 rules and to have them loaded. -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 13:47: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.channinsurance.com (w200.z064000253.bwi-md.dsl.cnc.net [64.0.253.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E62237B406 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([64.225.124.232]) by www.channinsurance.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:47:30 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: friendz@openxxx.net X-Mailer: Perl+Mail::Sender 0.7.08 by Jan Krynicky Subject: Hello, your friend recommended openxxx.net to you Message-Id: <20011014204700.8E62237B406@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You have been invited to check out this adult site by one of your friends who visited us. click here , our URL is: http://www.openxxx.net/ enjoy, OpenXXX TEAM 2001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 13:59:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC31237B401 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15482 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:59:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:59:12 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014135912.B15422@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of > ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, > communication prohibited etc. In fact, to be a full-class citizen of an IP network, you're =supposed= to process ICMP. That's how you gete routing redirects and a bunch of other proper/useful things. That's why it's called the IP =management= protocol. Unfortunately, DOS attacks and the like have made some people paranoid. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 14: 4:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com [65.24.0.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDF937B405 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iowna.com (dhcp065-024-023-038.columbus.rr.com [65.24.23.38]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9EL0D610378; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BC9FE2E.D4B30524@iowna.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:05:50 -0400 From: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> <20011014135912.B15422@freeway.dcfinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Chad R. Larson" wrote: > In fact, to be a full-class citizen of an IP network, you're > =supposed= to process ICMP. That's how you gete routing redirects > and a bunch of other proper/useful things. That's why it's called > the IP =management= protocol. I'm splitting hairs here, but it's "Internet Control Message Protocol" -- "Where's the robot to pat you on the back?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 14: 9:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500C437B40C for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Red Hack)) id 15ssV5-0005Q9-00; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:08:47 +1300 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:08:47 +1300 (NZDT) From: Juha Saarinen To: "Chad R. Larson" Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? In-Reply-To: <20011014135912.B15422@freeway.dcfinc.com> Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Chad R. Larson wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of > > ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, > > communication prohibited etc. > > In fact, to be a full-class citizen of an IP network, you're > =supposed= to process ICMP. That's how you gete routing redirects > and a bunch of other proper/useful things. That's why it's called > the IP =management= protocol. I don't know how good an idea it would be to accept redirects from all and sundry, but hey... Anyway, I thought it was Internet Control Message Protocol. -- Regards, Juha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 14:47:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BD337B409; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9ELlMu35164; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:47:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9ELlK714024; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:47:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110142147.f9ELlK714024@harmony.village.org> To: j mckitrick Subject: Re: Warner's new TOPIC/PCI code Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:59:21 BST." <20011013165921.A32689@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20011013165921.A32689@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:47:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011013165921.A32689@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> j mckitrick writes: : I just saw this commit to -current, and I'm excited to hear if this has : worked for anyone. I'm not running -current, but I'd be willing to : fetch the new version of these files if they seem to be working. If : they look like they might work, maybe I can provide some helpful : feedback or debugging info. You should be able to copy pcic_pic.[ch] from -current and build it on -stable (I've been careful to make sure they work both places). However, I have had one report of problems that I've not had time to dig into yet. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 14:57:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (smtp.sw.oz.au [203.31.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C408B37B40B for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vance@localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id HAA15153; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:57:08 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:57:08 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com> References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 08:15:57PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 08:15:57PM +0200, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: : On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:26:27PM +0200, Henrik Holmstam wrote: : > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Christopher Vance wrote: : > : > > Is there any reason why FreeBSD ipfilter is compiled without ipv6? : > > Does it not work, or is nobody FreeBSDish interested? : : I don't think IPFilter is IPv6-ready. There's some support but I don't : think it's stable or tested enough at this point. I may be wrong. Is that a judgement made by ipfilter people on what it does on FreeBSD, or by FreeBSD people on what ipfilter does/doesn't do? : > > I'd prefer something to keep state, so ip6fw isn't quite what I want. : > : > Is it? I'm using default IPFilter on FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE with ipv6 and it : > works just fine. I'm keeping state and have rules with 'proto ipv6' with : > no problems. I didn't think this answered my question, but was going to check some more before replying. : "ipv6" in this context means "v6 in v4". It means you're filtering : IPv6 packets based on the IPv4 tunnel end-point address, which is : better than nothing but still far from ideal. And this response seems to agree with my understanding. : IPFilter compiled with IPv6 support needs *two* different set of : rules. One for v4 and one for v6. The v6 set is managed with "ipf -6" : instead of "ipf". See ipf(1) : : : OPTIONS : -6 This option is required to parse IPv6 rules and to : have them loaded. I was looking for ways to filter tcp and udp traffic by their ip6 addresses. ipf filtering gif/stf traffic by where the tunnel came from is not what I meant, since that's only filtering protocol 41 (or whatever) as ip4 traffic, with no understanding of ip6 addressing. It looks to me that the default compile of ipfilter on FreeBSD 4-S turns off the -6 option and the USE_INET6 cpp define, and removes mention of -6 from the manual pages. Seems like someone went to some effort to remove it, and I was wondering why, and whether it was easier to put back in. -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 15:57:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BEE37B406 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.247.143.60.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.143.60]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22019; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9EMvC701010; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:57:11 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Arjan de Vet Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011014155711.C309@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011012185458.K69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011012184741.D6274@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org>; from devet@devet.org on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:07:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:07:56PM +0200, Arjan de Vet wrote: [snip] > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be > allowed to pass through. Or ICMP errors associated with the outgoing ping packet, just like the UDP case you explained. True, that's how IPFilter works. I was explaining how ipfw(8) does it. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 17: 0:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F37D37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.247.143.60.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.143.60]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9F00m406331; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9F00GB01364; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:00:15 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Christopher Vance Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011014170015.I309@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com>; from vance@aurema.com on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:57:08AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:57:08AM +1000, Christopher Vance wrote: [snip] > It looks to me that the default compile of ipfilter on FreeBSD 4-S > turns off the -6 option and the USE_INET6 cpp define, and removes > mention of -6 from the manual pages. Seems like someone went to some > effort to remove it, and I was wondering why, and whether it was > easier to put back in. Hmmm... $ FreeBSD vegeta.cjclark.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Oct 13 16:28:00 PDT 2001 cjc@vegeta.cjclark.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VEGETA i386 $ man ipf ... OPTIONS -6 This option is required to parse IPv6 rules and to have them loaded. ... After quick looking at the CVS logs, I don't really see any local changes since Darren merged 3.4.20 into RELENG_4. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 20: 2:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BCC37B405 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9F32fu36436; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:02:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9F32e716208; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:02:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110150302.f9F32e716208@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Gratton Subject: Re: "wi0: watchdog timout" on 4.4-R Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:43:45 +0930." <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> References: <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:02:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> Mike Gratton writes: : I'm having trouble getting a Elan PCI to : PCMCIA adapter working with a Lucent WaveLAN card on a stock, desktop : installation of 4.4-R. please send a dmesg, booted verbose. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 22:19: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7937B407 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (c2ce770c.fsp.oleane.fr [194.206.119.12]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f9F5Itm32867 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 07:18:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 83CFA12C; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:52:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:52:37 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011015005237.D93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com>; from vance@aurema.com on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:57:08AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 07:57:08AM +1000, Christopher Vance wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 08:15:57PM +0200, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: > : On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:26:27PM +0200, Henrik Holmstam wrote: > : > On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Christopher Vance wrote: > : > > : > > Is there any reason why FreeBSD ipfilter is compiled without ipv6? > : > > Does it not work, or is nobody FreeBSDish interested? > : > : I don't think IPFilter is IPv6-ready. There's some support but I don't > : think it's stable or tested enough at this point. I may be wrong. > > Is that a judgement made by ipfilter people on what it does on FreeBSD, > or by FreeBSD people on what ipfilter does/doesn't do? Neither :) I tested IPFilter 3.4.x against IPv6 sometimes ago on OpenBSD and it wasn't ready. Situation might have evolved, this is why I wrote "I may be wrong". > I was looking for ways to filter tcp and udp traffic by their ip6 > addresses. ipf filtering gif/stf traffic by where the tunnel came > from is not what I meant, since that's only filtering protocol 41 (or > whatever) as ip4 traffic, with no understanding of ip6 addressing. Exactly. > It looks to me that the default compile of ipfilter on FreeBSD 4-S > turns off the -6 option and the USE_INET6 cpp define, and removes > mention of -6 from the manual pages. Seems like someone went to some > effort to remove it, and I was wondering why, and whether it was > easier to put back in. Well, there's one thing to consider : the FreeBSD commiter of IPFilter is IPFilter's author itself, Darren Reed. And it seems he choose to not enable IPv6 filtering. He should have good reasons to do so. But you could add the right define in a few Makefiles, recompile everything and test yourself :) -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 23:26:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614BA37B408; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9F6QHi82973; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:26:17 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200110150626.f9F6QHi82973@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes In-Reply-To: <12199010.1003082022454.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> from Matt Sykes at "Oct 14, 2001 10:53:41 am" To: matt-sykes@excite.com (Matt Sykes) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:26:17 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > kernel: 4.4-STABLE motherboard: P2L97-DS, dual Pentium II 300MHZ > > > > > > top shows 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > > idle > > > > > > WCPU and CPU show 0.00% for all processes in top and ps. > > > > > > > Go and look in the old freebsd-smp archives for this message: > > > > Message-Id: <199906151902.VAA96921@midten.fast.no> > > > > It is message by Tor Egge and describes the problem. I have the > > same motherboard and that patch did the job. I'm running -current > > nowadays and the code does not look like that anymore so i have > > changed the patch for current, but I do not have new patches for > > -stable, so if that doesn't aplly anymore you will have to tweak > > them by hand. > > It's good to know at least I'm not going crazy; that however > meticulously I was following the instructions for kernel config and > install, it was still broken because I needed this patch. > > Unfortunately the patch cannot be applied even manually (I happen to > be a programmer) to 4.4-STABLE. The patch expects pcici_t types, > whereas the -stable source needs device_t types (maybe they are just > typedefs of one another, I did a grep -r but couldn't find the > definition). Ok, I have tried to port my -current version to stable. It does compile, but I don't know what it will do when you run it though. :-) I have added it to the end. > Much more importantly, though ... why isn't this patch included in > 4.4-STABLE? > > When you say you changed the patch for -current, does this mean it is > IN -current, or that you have a patch which you re-apply every time > you cvsup? If the latter, why isn't it in -current as well? Well it isn't part of -current either. At that time the feeling was that it shouldn't become part of FreeBSD, so I have just kept it as a local patch and fixed it everytime it broke when I upgraded to a new -current. > What can I do to assure that nobody has to do this again? I don't know. If this patch ever do go in, it will probably have to be protected with a "#ifdef BROKEN_P2L97-DS" or something similar. > And, since I still have a broken FreeBSD kernel, how do I to fix it? > Am I just out of luck with this motherboard? Well if you are brave enough, you can try my patch. :-) If you see the message "Disabled Device 13 trap SMI for access to RTC chip" during the boot phase, you will know that it did execute the code in the patch. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za Index: sys/pci/pcisupport.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/pci/Attic/pcisupport.c,v retrieving revision 1.154.2.7 diff -u -r1.154.2.7 pcisupport.c --- sys/pci/pcisupport.c 15 Aug 2001 04:04:59 -0000 1.154.2.7 +++ sys/pci/pcisupport.c 15 Oct 2001 05:42:34 -0000 @@ -87,6 +87,85 @@ } } +#ifdef SMP +static void +fix_82371ab_power_management(device_t dev) +{ + int pmba; + int devctl; + int devctl_changed; + int devrese; + int devresg; + +#define PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET 0x40 +#define PMBA_TO_IO(addr) (addr & 0xffc0) +#define DEVRESE_OFFSET 0x68 +#define DEVRESG_OFFSET 0x70 +#define DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE (1 << 20) +#define DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET 0x2c +#define DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV12 (1 << 24) +#define DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV13 (1 << 25) +#define RTC_IOADDR 0x70 + + pmba = pci_read_config(dev, PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET, 4); + + devctl = inl(PMBA_TO_IO(pmba) + DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET); + devctl_changed = 0; + + devrese = pci_read_config(dev, DEVRESE_OFFSET, 2) | + (pci_read_config(dev, DEVRESE_OFFSET + 2, 1) << 16); + + if ((devrese & DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE) != 0 && + ((devrese >> 16) & 15) <= 7 && + (devrese & 0xffff) == RTC_IOADDR && + (devctl & DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV12) != 0) { + + devrese &= ~DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE; + devctl &= ~DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV12; + devctl_changed = 1; + + pci_write_config(dev, DEVRESE_OFFSET, 2, (devrese & 0xffff)); + pci_write_config(dev, DEVRESE_OFFSET + 2, 1, + (devrese >> 16) & 0xff); + + printf("Disabled Device 12 trap SMI for access to RTC chip\n"); + } + + devresg = pci_read_config(dev, DEVRESG_OFFSET, 2) | + (pci_read_config(dev, DEVRESG_OFFSET + 2, 1) << 16); + + if ((devresg & DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE) != 0 && + ((devresg >> 16) & 15) <= 7 && + (devresg & 0xffff) == RTC_IOADDR && + (devctl & DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV13) != 0) { + + devresg &= ~DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE; + devctl &= ~DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV13; + devctl_changed = 1; + + pci_write_config(dev, DEVRESG_OFFSET, 2, (devresg & 0xffff)); + pci_write_config(dev, DEVRESG_OFFSET + 2, 1, + (devresg >> 16) & 0xff); + + printf("Disabled Device 13 trap SMI for access to RTC chip\n"); + } + + if (devctl_changed != 0) { + outl(PMBA_TO_IO(pmba) + DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET, devctl); + } + +#undef PMBA_CONFIG_OFFSET +#undef PMBA_TO_IO +#undef DEVRESE_OFFSET +#undef DEVRESG_OFFSET +#undef DEVRES_MONITOR_ENABLE +#undef DEVCTL_IO_OFFSET +#undef DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV12 +#undef DEVCTL_TRAP_DEV13 +#undef RTC_IOADDR +} +#endif + static void fixwsc_natoma(device_t dev) { @@ -1199,6 +1278,9 @@ case 0x71008086: return ("Intel 82439TX System controller (MTXC)"); case 0x71138086: +#if defined(SMP) + fix_82371ab_power_management(dev); +#endif return ("Intel 82371AB Power management controller"); case 0x12378086: fixwsc_natoma(dev); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 14 23:43:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (smtp.sw.oz.au [203.31.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9939E37B407 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vance@localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id QAA03040; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:43:21 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:43:21 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011015164320.A24890@aurema.com> References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com> <20011015005237.D93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011015005237.D93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net>; from rguyom@pobox.com on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:52:37AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:52:37AM +0200, Rémi Guyomarch wrote: : > Is that a judgement made by ipfilter people on what it does on FreeBSD, : > or by FreeBSD people on what ipfilter does/doesn't do? : : Neither :) : I tested IPFilter 3.4.x against IPv6 sometimes ago on OpenBSD and it : wasn't ready. Situation might have evolved, this is why I wrote "I may : be wrong". I'm told that ipfilter/ipv6 on OpenBSD 2.9 doesn't work. OpenBSD 3.0 has removed ipf and replaced it with a new pf thingy. As a new implementation, it's probably not up to scratch yet, although it does let me specify ipv6 addresses in the same rule set as ipv4 ones and looks promising on the outside. :-) : > It looks to me that the default compile of ipfilter on FreeBSD 4-S : > turns off the -6 option and the USE_INET6 cpp define, and removes : > mention of -6 from the manual pages. Seems like someone went to some : > effort to remove it, and I was wondering why, and whether it was : > easier to put back in. I was wrong about the manual pages; my ipf(8) was shadowed by an older ipf(1), presumably from before the move to contrib, and maybe before the move to /sbin (I don't know which order this happened in). ipf(8) does mention -6, and ipf -6 gives you a usage message, but from the source code it doesn't actually seem to do anything beyond this. There's no -6 in ipfstat, which presumably says something... The code for doing ipv6 in ipfilter is protected by #ifdef USE_INET6, and in FreeBSD 4.4-stable, that never seems to be #define'd or CFLAGS+=-D'd. (I did a grep over all of /usr/src.) : Well, there's one thing to consider : the FreeBSD commiter of IPFilter : is IPFilter's author itself, Darren Reed. And it seems he choose to : not enable IPv6 filtering. He should have good reasons to do so. Is NetBSD any different? I was told it uses ipf for ipv6, but it also seems to have an older version. Perhaps it's like OpenBSD <= 2.9 where the bits seem to be there but don't necessarily do what's promised. : But you could add the right define in a few Makefiles, recompile : everything and test yourself :) I tried it, and it didn't seem very useful. I'm not confident I did everything right, so this could be driver error. If I knew NetBSD's ipfilter worked right, I'd probably change my firewall OS, even though I'm happy with FreeBSD for the desktop. Otherwise, I guess I'll continue with ip6fw, or fiddle with ipfilter, but without confidence - and take better pains to ensure I've done it right. -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 0:19:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (smtp.sw.oz.au [203.31.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE88937B406 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vance@localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id RAA14149; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:18:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:18:58 +1000 From: Christopher Vance To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Message-ID: <20011015171858.A14015@aurema.com> References: <20011014232019.A29012@aurema.com> <20011014152203.O69352-100000@darkwing.turbo.net> <20011014201557.C93723@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> <20011015075708.B29012@aurema.com> <20011014170015.I309@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011014170015.I309@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 05:00:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 05:00:15PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: : $ man ipf : ... : OPTIONS : -6 This option is required to parse IPv6 rules and to : have them loaded. My ipf(8) was shadowed by an older ipf(1). Unfortunately -6 only gives a usage message. -- Christopher Vance To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 0:29:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au [203.6.241.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB2737B403 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 00:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id f9F7T81Y028744; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:29:08 +1000 (EST) Received: (from carl@localhost) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta10) id f9F7T5ts028741; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:29:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:29:05 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200110150729.f9F7T5ts028741@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au To: rguyom@pobox.com, vance@aurema.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au Subject: Re: ipfilter ipv6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: Christopher Vance > > : Well, there's one thing to consider : the FreeBSD commiter of IPFilter > : is IPFilter's author itself, Darren Reed. And it seems he choose to > : not enable IPv6 filtering. He should have good reasons to do so. > > Is NetBSD any different? I was told it uses ipf for ipv6, but it also > seems to have an older version. Perhaps it's like OpenBSD <= 2.9 > where the bits seem to be there but don't necessarily do what's > promised. I haven't actually tested it yet, but a vanilla 1.5.3alpha build says : (this is just a copy of my OpenBSD (not working!) ruleset) twat# ipfstat -6 -io pass out quick on rtk1 proto tcp from any to 3ffe:8001:5:2:a00:20ff:fe18:a87d/128 port = 25 keep state pass out quick on rtk1 proto tcp from any to 3ffe:8001:5:2:a00:20ff:fe18:a87d/128 port = 113 keep state pass out quick on rtk1 proto tcp from any to 3ffe:8001:5:2:a00:20ff:fe18:a87d/128 port = 22 keep state pass out quick on rtk1 proto tcp from 3ffe:8001:5::/48 to any port = 123 pass out quick on rtk1 proto udp from 3ffe:8001:5::/48 to any port = 123 pass out quick on lo0 from any to any pass in quick proto tcp from any to any port = 53 keep state pass in quick proto udp from any to any port = 53 keep state pass in quick on rtk1 proto tcp from 3ffe:8001:5::/48 to any keep state pass in quick on rtk1 proto udp from 3ffe:8001:5::/48 to any keep state pass in quick on rtk1 proto ipv6-icmp from 3ffe:8001:5::/48 to any keep state pass in quick on lo0 from any to any block in log quick from any to any > If I knew NetBSD's ipfilter worked right, I'd probably change my > firewall OS, even though I'm happy with FreeBSD for the desktop. I'm pretty sure it works. I haven't had to recompile anything to get the above. No live rules yet though, just the dummies above. Carl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 2:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au [203.6.241.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89AD537B401 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 02:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id f9F9aw1Y029217; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:58 +1000 (EST) Received: (from carl@localhost) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta10) id f9F9ase6029215; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:54 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200110150936.f9F9ase6029215@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, rguyom@pobox.com, vance@aurema.com Subject: IPv6, IPF and NetBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My appologies, it seems IPv6 and NetBSD 1.5.3 alpha (I CVS'uped the latest 1.5 code on the weekend) does not have kernel hooks for IPv6 and IPF (just like OpenBSD 2.9, alas). At least ipf doesn't need hacking to use IPv6 :) Just the kernel needs the hooks :-/ the NetBSD people are aware of it, it's listed as a bug, see http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2001/06/11/0003.html As far as I can tell, that kernel code is pure kame, not in the 1.5 branch of NetBSD, so I wasn't game to patch ip6_forward.c, it didn't look similar enough to patch. I don't know yet when it'll get rolled in :-/ Does anyone nkow the story? so, for the moment, it looks like FreeBSD may be the best (only) IPv6 firewall on *BSD. I'm reliably informed that OBSD 3.0 will have PF fully supporting IPv6, but it's very new ... Carl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 2:49:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cheer.mahoroba.org (flets-f0022.kamome.or.jp [211.8.127.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43F37B407 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 02:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by cheer.mahoroba.org (8.12.1/8.12.1) id f9F9mVXj080555; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:48:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (IDENT:ApruFxMItXvs6JF1SgXkDoQC3lloRspqbtSiriSMV0OmgDQyq3yJgMNA2TqYkEIt@peace.mahoroba.org [IPv6:2001:200:301:0:200:f8ff:fe05:3eae]) (user=ume mech=CRAM-MD5 bits=0) by cheer.mahoroba.org (8.12.1/8.12.1/av) with ESMTP/inet6 id f9F9mRTS032886; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:48:30 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:48:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20011015.184826.74695257.ume@mahoroba.org> To: carl@bl.echidna.id.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, rguyom@pobox.com, vance@aurema.com Subject: Re: IPv6, IPF and NetBSD From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <200110150936.f9F9ase6029215@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> References: <200110150936.f9F9ase6029215@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 2.0.58 on Emacs 21.0 / Mule 5.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjgtTFobKEIp?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, >>>>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:54 +1000 (EST) >>>>> carl@bl.echidna.id.au said: carl> My appologies, it seems IPv6 and NetBSD 1.5.3 alpha (I CVS'uped the latest carl> 1.5 code on the weekend) does not have kernel hooks for IPv6 and carl> IPF (just like OpenBSD 2.9, alas). At least ipf doesn't need carl> hacking to use IPv6 :) Just the kernel needs the hooks :-/ carl> the NetBSD people are aware of it, it's listed as a bug, carl> see http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2001/06/11/0003.html carl> As far as I can tell, that kernel code is pure kame, not carl> in the 1.5 branch of NetBSD, so I wasn't game to patch ip6_forward.c, it didn't carl> look similar enough to patch. I don't know yet when it'll get rolled in :-/ carl> Does anyone nkow the story? NetBSD-current has hooks for IPv6 and IPF. My friend is using it and it seems working. But, he doesn't know if it is perfect. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 2:55:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au [203.6.241.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2652937B40A for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 02:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id f9F9tH1Y029292; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:55:17 +1000 (EST) Received: (from carl@localhost) by rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au (8.12.1/8.12.0.Beta10) id f9F9tHJ3029291; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:55:17 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:55:17 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200110150955.f9F9tHJ3029291@rollcage.bl.echidna.id.au> From: carl@bl.echidna.id.au To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au, rguyom@pobox.com, vance@aurema.com Subject: Re: IPv6, IPF and NetBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Appologies for the cross-post (again ...) I wrote > My appologies, it seems IPv6 and NetBSD 1.5.3 alpha (I CVS'uped the latest > 1.5 code on the weekend) does not have kernel hooks for IPv6 and > IPF (just like OpenBSD 2.9, alas). At least ipf doesn't need > hacking to use IPv6 :) Just the kernel needs the hooks :-/ > > the NetBSD people are aware of it, it's listed as a bug, > see http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-bugs/2001/06/11/0003.html > > As far as I can tell, that kernel code is pure kame, not > in the 1.5 branch of NetBSD, so I wasn't game to patch ip6_forward.c, it didn't > look similar enough to patch. I don't know yet when it'll get rolled in :-/ > Does anyone nkow the story? If I wasn't such a lazy anthrax-carrier, I'd have checked properly, and seen that NetBSD-current's version of that file is full of hooks for IPF. So, NetBSD -current should work just fine. But, the 1.5 branch does not. Apologies to freebsd-stable people for the cross-post. Carl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 3:11:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ash25.adelaide.on.net (mail.internode.on.net [203.16.214.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C8937B407 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vee.net ([203.18.245.3]) by internode.on.net (PMDF V6.0-24 #37831) with ESMTP id <01K9JID2YZEG00192Z@internode.on.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:38:49 +0930 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:39:20 +0930 From: Mike Gratton Subject: Re: "wi0: watchdog timout" on 4.4-R To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3BCAB5D0.4000005@vee.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=------------000201040201050506030801 X-Accept-Language: en-au, en-gb, en-us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 References: <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> <200110150302.f9F32e716208@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000201040201050506030801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Warner, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <3BC97369.7050705@vee.net> Mike Gratton writes: > : I'm having trouble getting a Elan PCI to > : PCMCIA adapter working with a Lucent WaveLAN card on a stock, desktop > : installation of 4.4-R. > > please send a dmesg, booted verbose. > It is attached. Le me know if you need any more detail. Interestingly, when I was trying to get this working, I kept the WaveLAN card in the slot between reboots. The card was recognised as being inserted by the pccard (pcic?) driver and hence pccardd also recognised it when it was started. Now, when getting this dmesg for you, I though it might be clearer if I kept the pcic/pccard driver output separate from when the card was inserted, so I inserted the card after booting. But the card wasn't picked up, it was only after I did a `pccardc power 0 1` that it was recognised. Let me know if you want a dmesg with the card in at boot time. Thanks, Mike. -- Mike Gratton I want you to know, he's not coming back. Blatant self-promotion: --------------000201040201050506030801 Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #2: Sun Oct 14 17:40:02 CST 2001 root@:/usr/src/sys/compile/CONSOLIDATION Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 908042658 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193126 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor (908.09-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x642 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> Data TLB: 24 entries, fully associative Instruction TLB: 16 entries, fully associative L1 data cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative L1 instruction cache: 64 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 2-way associative L2 internal cache: 256 kbytes, 64 bytes/line, 1 lines/tag, 8-way associative real memory = 268353536 (262064K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009dfff, 643072 bytes (157 pages) 0x003ab000 - 0x0ffe3fff, 264474624 bytes (64569 pages) config> q avail memory = 257728512 (251688K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f92a0 bios32: Entry = 0xf0e10 (c00f0e10) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0x1010 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fc2b0 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:c2e0 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: OEM ID cd041 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000f6640 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0385000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc03850a8. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 Math emulator present pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000060 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=03051106) Using $PIR table, 9 entries at 0xc00f15e0 pcib-: pcib0 exists, using next available unit number npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0305, revid=0x02 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base e4000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x8305, revid=0x00 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0686, revid=0x22 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x0571, revid=0x10 class=01-01-8a, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d800, size 4 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=5 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d400, size 5 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3038, revid=0x10 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=5 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d000, size 5 found-> vendor=0x1106, dev=0x3057, revid=0x30 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac50, revid=0x01 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 found-> vendor=0x1102, dev=0x0002, revid=0x08 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 found-> vendor=0x1102, dev=0x7002, revid=0x08 class=09-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1229, revid=0x08 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=5 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d5800000, size 12 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 00009800, size 6 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base d5000000, size 20 found-> vendor=0x105a, dev=0x0d30, revid=0x02 class=01-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00009400, size 3 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 00009000, size 2 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base 00008800, size 3 map[1c]: type 1, range 32, base 00008400, size 2 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 00008000, size 6 map[24]: type 1, range 32, base d4800000, size 17 pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0150, revid=0xa3 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base d6000000, size 24 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base d8000000, size 27 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: (vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0150) at 0.0 irq 11 isab0: at device 4.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xd800-0xd80f at device 4.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xd800 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=14 b=eb ata0: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata0: devices=04 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xd808 ata1: mask=03 status0=40 status1=40 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=40 ostat2=40 ata1-master: ATAPI probe a=40 b=40 ata1-slave: ATAPI probe a=40 b=40 ata1: mask=03 status0=40 status1=40 ata1-master: ATA probe a=a5 b=a5 ata1-slave: ATA probe a=a5 b=a5 ata1: devices=03 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xd400-0xd41f irq 5 at device 4.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: Mitsumi Electric Hub in Apple USB Keyboard, class 9/0, rev 1.10/2.11, addr 2 uhub1: 3 ports with 2 removable, bus powered ukbd0: Mitsumi Electric Apple USB Keyboard, rev 1.00/1.03, addr 3, iclass 3/1 kbd0 at ukbd0 kbd0: ukbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1d0000 ums0: Logitech USB Mouse, rev 1.10/6.b4, addr 4, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons and Z dir. uhci1: port 0xd000-0xd01f irq 5 at device 4.3 on pci0 using shared irq5. usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: ALCOR Generic USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 uhub3: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pci_cfgintr_virgin: using routable interrupt 3 pci_cfgintr: 0:9 INTA routed to irq 3 pcic0: irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 pcic0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only] pccard0: on pcic0 pci0: (vendor=0x1102, dev=0x0002) at 10.0 pci0: (vendor=0x1102, dev=0x7002) at 10.1 fxp0: port 0x9800-0x983f mem 0xd5000000-0xd50fffff,0xd5800000-0xd5800fff irq 5 at device 13.0 on pci0 fxp0: using memory space register mapping fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:07:93:cc fxp0: PCI IDs: 8086 1229 8086 000c 0008 fxp0: Chip Type: 0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto bpf: fxp0 attached atapci1: port 0x8000-0x803f,0x8400-0x8403,0x8800-0x8807,0x9000-0x9003,0x9400-0x9407 mem 0xd4800000-0xd481ffff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 ata-: ata2 exists, using next available unit number ata2: iobase=0x9400 altiobase=0x9002 bmaddr=0x8000 ata2: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata2: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata2-master: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata2-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata2: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata2-master: ATA probe a=01 b=a5 ata2: devices=01 ata2: at 0x9400 on atapci1 ata3: iobase=0x8800 altiobase=0x8402 bmaddr=0x8008 ata3: mask=00 status0=ff status1=ff ata3: probe allocation failed pci-: pci1 exists, using next available unit number pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0:
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 23: 3:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0EB37B40F for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9G63fV08021; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:03:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9G63d729084; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:03:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110160603.f9G63d729084@harmony.village.org> To: "R.P. Aditya" Subject: Re: 2 inserts to get WaveLAN (wi) card to work? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:19:43 PDT." <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> References: <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> <20011015114913.A67702@mighty.grot.org> <200110160351.f9G3pe728481@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:03:39 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> "R.P. Aditya" writes: : Okay, I took IRQ 8 out of my irq list in pccard.conf and rebooted, and there : was no difference, it still took two inserts before the wi card would work. I'm pretty sure that pccardd is ignoring the irq line. Looks like you have a TI-1131, which is a decent chip and most people that have it seem to be happy. : > > insert after a "watchdog timer reset"): : > : > What does the rest of dmesg say? The above doesn't tell me too much. Hmmm. What happens if you add some debug printfs in sys/dev/wi/if_wi.c in wi_pccard_probe. What error is wi_alloc returning? Is it even being called? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Oct 15 23:15:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D8C37B40F for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21109 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:15:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 23:15:30 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Art work Message-ID: <20011015231530.A21091@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got my 4.4-RELEASE CD-ROMs via UPS today. I'm thinking about making a clone of them to take to work. My CD duplicating software can generate labels for the CDs, and inserts for jewel cases. Rather than scan them, are they available somewhere for download? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 1:42: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA6A37B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.244.104.182.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.244.104.182]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA28064; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9G8con02880; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:38:34 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Heath Nielson Cc: Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from heath@cs.byu.edu on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 10:57:26PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 10:57:26PM -0600, Heath Nielson wrote: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message Heath Nielson writes: > > : FreeBSD doesn't like a NULL value. There was no mention of NULL input > > : values in the man page. It seems that a NULL value is valid. I can type > > : export TEST= at the prompt without any errors, but I'm no shell expert. > > : Maybe the TEST env. variable's value isn't really NULL. Does anyone else > > : have anything to add to this? > > > > NULL isn't allowed to be passed to getenv. That is a programming > > error. You get unpredictable results. We nicely give you a core file > > so you can debug your error. > > > > Warner > > > > I was actually referring to setenv(). Upon further study, I guess it > boils down to a question of whether there's a difference between the two > calls: > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 3: 3:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shalimar.net.au (shalimar.net.au [198.142.161.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0BA37B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (count@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shalimar.net.au (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f9GA2CA08544; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:02:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from count@shalimar.net.au) Message-Id: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Zero Sum Organization: Tobacco Chewers and Body Painters Association. To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:02:11 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> In-Reply-To: <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> X-originating-IP: Shalimar Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. Has this changed without me noticing? -- Zero Sum Vescere bracis meis But remember, please, the Law by which we live, We are not built to comprehend a lie. We can neither live nor pity, nor forgive, If you make a slip in handling us you die! --The Secret of the Machines-- Rudyard Kipling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 3:27:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dire.bris.ac.uk (dire.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F74137B40C for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 03:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk by dire.bris.ac.uk with SMTP-PRIV with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:27:10 +0100 Received: from cmjg (helo=localhost) by mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15tRQD-0007jl-00; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:26:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:26:04 +0100 (BST) From: Jan Grant X-X-Sender: To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark , "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Zero Sum wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. > > Has this changed without me noticing? Was this _ever_ true? Can you supply a pointer please? Considering C's "close to the metal" attitude, I can't see how this could have ever got into the language. jan -- jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/ Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk Axioms speak louder than words. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 4:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BA0337B40D for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 04:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 16 Oct 2001 12:25:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:25:38 +0100 From: David Malone To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011016122538.A12171@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au>; from count@shalimar.net.au on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:02:11PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:02:11PM +1000, Zero Sum wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. Can you point to any document that refers to this? Maybe the compiler manufacturer was having you on. The C99 standard doesn't seem to mention "null string" as a term anywhere (though it's a common usage for people studying grammers) and "empty string" only crops up in relation to the nan function. Scanning through and looking for null by itself doesn't mention anything like this either. Infact, C99 says: If an argment to a function has an invalid value (such as a value outside the domain of the function, or a pointer outside the address space of the program, or a null pointer, or a pointer to noon-modifiable storage when the corresponding parameter is not const-qualified), ..., the behaviour is undefined. which seems to suggest that unless NULL is specifically mentioned as beging acceptable then the compiler can do more-or-less as it pleases. AFAIK setenv isn't part of any standard which is likely to say that NULL is acceptable. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 4:36: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sp.gilan.uar.net (sp-obolon.gilan.uar.net [194.44.225.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C2337B401; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 04:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (petr@localhost) by sp.gilan.uar.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GBZmC32979; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:35:49 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from petr@petrovich.net) X-Authentication-Warning: sp.gilan.uar.net: petr owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:35:48 +0300 (EEST) From: Serge Negodyuck X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: FreeBSD hangs running some linux apps. Message-ID: <20011016134355.T2270-100000@sp.gilan.uar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have troubles running some linux apps under FreeBSD. The box is Athlon-750/256 MB RAM. FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE, cvsupped 16 Oct. Kernel compiled with option COMPAT_LINUX, and "linux_enable" is set in /etc/rc.conf. There such applicatios: Linux Netscape 4.78 - works fine. Vmware 2.0.4.1142. running win98 as guest os. Guest os starts, and works sometime. It can work a long time if I do not use vmware. But when I try to run some "huge" apps inside vmware - such as openning many windows of IE for example host OS (FreeBSD) hangs. Kernel is compiled with DDB, but I cannot see it. May be DDB is avaible from serial conslole if I will attach it. But I did't try serial conslole yet. Demo version of Linux game "Heroes of Might and magic". (http://www.3ddownloads.com/?file_id=39800http://www.3ddownloads.com/?file_id=39800) This game just make my FreeBSD hangs in the same manner as vmware. 80% my box hangs at once after starting this game. Sometimes I can see some animation, but after that computer hangs. I think, hardware is OK. Running make -j 16 buildworld works fine. The most interesting, I have another box - Cyrix233/80MB RAM. With almost similar kernel config file. And cvsupped the same date. Vmware and "Heroes of Might and magic" works fine during an hour. But too slow :) P.S. I've found a message, where are almost the same trouble. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2506+4846+/usr/local/www/db/text/2000/freebsd-emulation/20001210.freebsd-emulation To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 4:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6647137B40F; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 04:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flood.ping.uio.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id 6B90A14C2E; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:47:33 +0200 (CEST) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Serge Negodyuck Cc: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD hangs running some linux apps. References: <20011016134355.T2270-100000@sp.gilan.uar.net> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 16 Oct 2001 13:47:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20011016134355.T2270-100000@sp.gilan.uar.net> Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Serge Negodyuck writes: > But when I try to run some "huge" apps inside vmware - such as openning > many windows of IE for example host OS (FreeBSD) hangs. Kernel is compiled > with DDB, but I cannot see it. May be DDB is avaible from serial conslole > if I will attach it. But I did't try serial conslole yet. Please do so. DDB doesn't know how to switch back to text mode, so if the kernel panics while you're running X, you're screwed - unless you're using a serial console. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:14:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cc-gw.1anetworks.net (cc-gw.1anetworks.net [193.243.179.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DEEC737B427 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brian (brian.1anetworks.net [212.36.98.200]) by parma.1anetworks.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA16906 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:14:04 +0100 (BST) From: "Bri" To: Subject: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE - question reguarding 3COM 900TPO 10Mbps net card. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:30:52 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I was previously using FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE and it ran stable but since I've made a new install on the system on the new hard drive I've put 4.4 RELEASE on the new hard drive and the new Promise TX-2 controller which are both working fine but after 4 or so days the 3COM 900TPO network card on xl0 die's after around this time I know it die's because the light blacks out on the hub and the system then becomes locked up and then it reboots and comes back in ok and a FreeBSD reinitializes the network card again without the need to completely turn off the system. And everything is fine for another 4 days.... any suggestions that would help are appreciated Thanks Bri, To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEB337B40E; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id FAA04951; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:13:19 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda04949; Tue Oct 16 05:13:18 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f9GCDFJ85754; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdo85752; Tue Oct 16 05:13:06 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f9GCD0M06818; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200110161213.f9GCD0M06818@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdYB6814; Tue Oct 16 05:12:09 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Jason DiCioccio , "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , David Kelly , Alfatrion , "Maine LOA List Admin (Brent Bailey)" , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Oct 2001 23:28:18 PDT." <20011012232818.J6274@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:12:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20011012232818.J6274@blossom.cjclark.org>, "Crist J. Clark" writes: > On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 11:08:25PM -0700, Jason DiCioccio wrote: > > On Friday, October 12, 2001, at 08:39 , Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 01:11:17PM -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > >> FTP works in passive and active mode using IPNat. > > >> > > >> map dc1 192.168.0.0/24 -> www.xxx.yyy.zzz/32 proxy port ftp ftp/tcp > > >> map dc1 192.168.0.0/24 -> www.xxx.yyy.zzz/32 portmap tcp/udp 1025:60000 > > > > > > Except when the ftp proxy is panicing the kernel. When non-ftp data > > > was passed over port 21, up until recently, it could easily crash your > > > system. > > > > I've never seen this behavior before actually.. When was this fixed? Was > > it IPFilter or just IPFilter on FreeBSD? > > I don't think it was platform specific. I recall the discussion from > the IPFilter list, ipfilter@coombs.anu.edu.au. Look at list archives > for more info. I believe Kazaa (which, IIRC, does some funky HTTP-like > protocol on port 21 by default) was the particular application causing > people headaches. This particular problem was fixed in IPF 3.4-CURRENT (3.4.20+1). Darren doesn't have it on his FTP site nor is it pointed to by his web site. 3.4-CURRENT can be retrieved from http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalo n/ipf3.4-current.tgz. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD Ministry of Management Services Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:18:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822A237B40D; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9GCGL329767; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:16:21 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <200110161216.f9GCGL329767@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes In-Reply-To: <19663931.1003184867692.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> from Matt Sykes at "Oct 15, 2001 03:27:47 pm" To: matt-sykes@excite.com (Matt Sykes) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:16:21 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Looks like it works! > > > > > > In top, cvsup gradually comes up to about 40%, stays there a while, > > > then disappears (I couldn't think of another longish process to test > > > with). I guess that's correct. Before it would start at 2% then > > > quickly go back to 0%. > > > > > > dmesg says "Timecounter 'PIIX' frequency 3579545"; I guess that's > > > alright. > > > > > > One thing which surprises me, though --- all other processes are zero. > > > Is this normal? This is my first time seeing FreeBSD run. I have an > > > identical box here running linux (and each box runs a minimum of > > > services), where at least top will show nonzero CPU percentage in top, > > > usually around 0.5%. Does linux have more fine-grained timing, or is > > > it cheating, or does the margin of error render this test essentially > > > meaningless anyway? > > > > It's not unusual to see most of your processes at 0.00% in FreeBSD. > > > > >From the answers I've recieved, seems I wasn't clear enough. > I know that most of idle processes should be zero --- my > point is that top should show up in top, and since it does > in linux and with other FreeBSD top outputs I've seen, this > leads me to believe my kernel timer is still broken (and > it works on this same box running linux). > So do something like "cat /dev/zero | md5" and see if it show you something. Around here top is pretty quiet: 39815 root 96 0 2024K 1032K CPU1 0 0:00 0.00% 0.00% top 57045 jhay 96 0 2028K 768K select 1 3:06 0.00% 0.00% top 23617 jhay 28 0 2076K 544K RUN 19.8H 0.00% 0.00% top John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:23: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shagged.org (rtfm.shagged.org [195.11.8.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D08137B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chris by mail.shagged.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15tTFQ-000KsU-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:23:04 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:23:04 +0100 From: Chris Elsworth To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: linux_base conflicts - both required :( Message-ID: <20011016132304.A80179@shagged.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Can linux_base and linux_base-7 co-exist on the same system? I have linux_base installed, which is required for the halflife servers (and CS), but linux_rar appears to want linux_base-7 . If I try to install that, I get dozens of understandable conflicts between the two linux_base's. If I remove the original and install 7, halflife fails to work, with odd connection errors (ES_INVALID_ADDR). Obviously the long term solution is to get halflife working with linux_base-7, but in the meantime .. does anyone have any clues? Cheers :) -- Chris Elsworth - Software & Systems Developer / Systems Administrator To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:35:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0107B37B40B for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca ([65.93.39.114]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011016123521.NJIY27994.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@xena.gsicomp.on.ca>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:35:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9GCR6u16702; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:27:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@xena.gsicomp.on.ca) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:27:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew Emmerton To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Zero Sum wrote: > On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. I doubt that this was ever the case. A null string and a null pointer are two different things entirely. Treating them as equal would be wrong. -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:39:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598D437B405; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpc-data.demon.co.uk ([158.152.55.245] helo=burton.mpc-data.co.uk) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 15tTV5-0002ov-0U; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:39:15 +0100 Received: from lion.mpc-data.co.uk (root@lion.mpc-data.co.uk [192.150.92.1]) by burton.mpc-data.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27223; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:36:34 +0100 Received: from lion.mpc-data.co.uk (IDENT:mpumford@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lion.mpc-data.co.uk (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17246; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:36:32 +0100 Message-Id: <200110161236.NAA17246@lion.mpc-data.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 16 Oct 2001 08:01:01 +0200." <200110160601.f9G611T20245@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:36:32 +0100 From: Mike Pumford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > One thing which surprises me, though --- all other processes are zero. > > Is this normal? This is my first time seeing FreeBSD run. I have an > > identical box here running linux (and each box runs a minimum of > > services), where at least top will show nonzero CPU percentage in top, > > usually around 0.5%. Does linux have more fine-grained timing, or is > > it cheating, or does the margin of error render this test essentially > > meaningless anyway? > top on Linux is really slow compared to the BSD versions. It is slower to update and always consumes a significant chunk of CPU. BSD top seems much more efficient. Possibly down to the fact the BSD top gathers its info with libkvm while linux top has to parse a load of files in /proc. I suspect there may be differences in the CPU usage calculation algorithm as well. Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:49:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE0537B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 62801 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Oct 2001 22:49:42 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.21 16-Jun-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:49:42 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> In-reply-to: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> of Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:02:11 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Zero Sum wrote: | On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: | | > > | > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); | > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); | > | > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a | > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the | > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. | | I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that | time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null | pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. | | Has this changed without me noticing? This is an absurd claim -- under K&R C and ISO C there is no equivalence between these two things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 5:57:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep13-int.chello.nl (amsfep13-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3F337B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 05:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootsr.com ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep13-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011016125734.CLNV18584.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@rootsr.com> for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:57:34 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCC2EBD.30807@rootsr.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:57:33 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just installed 4.4-release from 18 september. I want apache + ssl + php4. mod_php4 requires vanilla apache (1.3.20). I tried two install-sequences (with pkg_add): 1. apache-1.3.20 mod_php4-4.0.6_4 apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 2. apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 apache-1.3.20 mod_php4-4.0.6_4 Either sequence of installing gives trouble (either httpd.conf errors or supposedly damaged .so files). I ran FreeBSD 4.3 before and there I could install apache+mod_ssl-1.3.14+2.7.1_1 and mod_php-4.0.4 separately without problems. Thank you for your efforts. Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 6: 7:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.112.141.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11E237B405 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GD69r10874; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:06:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: Message from Zero Sum of "Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:02:11 +1000." <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:06:09 +0100 Message-ID: <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2001-10-16 10:02:11+0000, Zero Sum writes: > On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. > > Has this changed without me noticing? It was never generally true. Your memory may have its roots in the fact that some operating systems on some machines in the early 80s (VMS on VAXen, ISTR) wired page zero to be zero on read, discard on write, so that you could read from a NULL pointer (which was address zero in that -- and most -- implementations of C) and get zero bytes. On such a machine you could indeed pass NULL to a function that was expecting a string and get the same behaviour as passing a pointer to an empty string. This kind of hack saves a few lines of source code, a few bytes of object code, and a few CPU cycles. The cost in terms of portability and maintainability is immense. Nobody does it any more. This should go to -chat. Nick Barnes Ravenbrook Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 6:28:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mip.co.za (puck.mip.co.za [209.212.106.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F8A37B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from patrick (patrick.mip.co.za [10.3.13.181]) by mip.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18371; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:28:35 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from patrick@mip.co.za) From: "Patrick O'Reilly" To: "Hans de Hartog" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable List" Subject: RE: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:31:27 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <3BCC2EBD.30807@rootsr.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I picked up a funny with this combination which might be the same problem you are having. When mod_ssl is installed it add its LoadModule directive inside a conditional block in httpd.conf so that you can do and 'apachectl start' or 'apachectl startssl' to start with or without SSL support. That's fine. The problem is that after that the PHP4 installation tries to add its LoadModule directive after the last one found in the httpd.conf file, and so the PHP4 module will only load conditionally (IF you do an 'apachectl startssl'). What's even worse is that when you do an 'apachectl restart' (which is what the 'make install' for apache and PHP4 attempt to do) the LoadModule for PHP4 is never loaded. So, in summary, edit your /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf file as follows: You will find something like this: ---------------------------------------- LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so ---------------------------------------- Change it like so: ---------------------------------------- LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so ---------------------------------------- And, similarly: ---------------------------------------- AddModule mod_ssl.c AddModule mod_php4.c ---------------------------------------- should be: ---------------------------------------- AddModule mod_ssl.c AddModule mod_php4.c ---------------------------------------- Hope this is what you need. Patrick. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Hans de Hartog > Sent: 16 October 2001 14:58 > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? > > > Just installed 4.4-release from 18 september. > I want apache + ssl + php4. > mod_php4 requires vanilla apache (1.3.20). > > I tried two install-sequences (with pkg_add): > > 1. apache-1.3.20 > mod_php4-4.0.6_4 > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 > > 2. apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 > apache-1.3.20 > mod_php4-4.0.6_4 > > Either sequence of installing gives trouble > (either httpd.conf errors or supposedly > damaged .so files). > > I ran FreeBSD 4.3 before and there I could > install apache+mod_ssl-1.3.14+2.7.1_1 and > mod_php-4.0.4 separately without problems. > > Thank you for your efforts. > > Hans de Hartog. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 6:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2481237B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9GDbTV09691; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:37:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GDbQ731430; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:37:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110161337.f9GDbQ731430@harmony.village.org> To: Zero Sum Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:02:11 +1000." <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> References: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:37:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> Zero Sum writes: : I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that : time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null : pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. : : Has this changed without me noticing? Yes. A NULL pointer and a NULL string are two different things. Check the archives for a long explaination with pointers to the standard. The compiler mfg was right and you were not, at least with the modern definitions. We've been through this a large number of times as a search of the archives will show. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 6:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A0837B40A for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9GDdpV09702; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:39:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GDdo731450; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:39:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110161339.f9GDdo731450@harmony.village.org> To: Matthew Emmerton Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Cc: Zero Sum , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:27:06 EDT." References: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:39:50 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Matthew Emmerton writes: : I doubt that this was ever the case. A null string and a null pointer are : two different things entirely. Treating them as equal would be wrong. On a VAX running BSD, page 0 was mapped and did start with 0, so a null string and a NULL pointer just happened to be functionally the same. But that was an accidental happinstance, and never specified in any doc. On a VAX running SYSV, they weren't equivolent as page 0 wasn't mapped. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 6:40:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA94237B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9GDemV09717; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:40:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GDel731473; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:40:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200110161340.f9GDel731473@harmony.village.org> To: Nick Barnes Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Cc: Zero Sum , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:06:09 BST." <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> References: <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:40:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Nick Barnes writes: : It was never generally true. Your memory may have its roots in the : fact that some operating systems on some machines in the early 80s : (VMS on VAXen, ISTR) wired page zero to be zero on read, discard on 4.2 and 4.3 BSD on VAXen, not VMS. VMS didn't map page 0 in userland. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 7:13: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A01D737B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inish9.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.114.41]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27048; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:12:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5AA3132E7; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:12:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: dehartog@rootsr.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3BCC2EBD.30807@rootsr.com> (message from Hans de Hartog on Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:57:33 +0200) Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? References: <3BCC2EBD.30807@rootsr.com> Message-Id: <20011016141226.C5AA3132E7@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG apache+mod_ssl contains apache already - if you install apache as well, there is going to be trouble... - Mike H. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:57:33 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Just installed 4.4-release from 18 september. I want apache + ssl + php4. mod_php4 requires vanilla apache (1.3.20). I tried two install-sequences (with pkg_add): 1. apache-1.3.20 mod_php4-4.0.6_4 apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 2. apache+mod_ssl-1.3.20+2.8.4 apache-1.3.20 mod_php4-4.0.6_4 Either sequence of installing gives trouble (either httpd.conf errors or supposedly damaged .so files). I ran FreeBSD 4.3 before and there I could install apache+mod_ssl-1.3.14+2.7.1_1 and mod_php-4.0.4 separately without problems. Thank you for your efforts. Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 7:26: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9649C37B40A for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28AA2E461 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9GEPxt98823; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:25:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kcilink.com) X-Authentication-Warning: onceler.kciLink.com: khera set sender to khera@kcilink.com using -f To: stable@freebsd.org Newsgroups: ml.freebsd.stable Subject: Re: FreeBSD hangs running some linux apps. References: <20011016134355.T2270-100000@sp.gilan.uar.net> From: Vivek Khera Date: 16 Oct 2001 10:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: Organization: Khera Communications, Inc., Rockville, MD Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) In-Reply-To: <20011016134355.T2270-100000@sp.gilan.uar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posted-To: ml.freebsd.stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to ml.freebsd.stable as well. >>>>> "SN" == Serge Negodyuck writes: SN> The box is Athlon-750/256 MB RAM. FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE, cvsupped 16 Oct. SN> Kernel compiled with option COMPAT_LINUX, and "linux_enable" is set in SN> /etc/rc.conf. SN> There such applicatios: SN> Linux Netscape 4.78 - works fine. SN> Vmware 2.0.4.1142. running win98 as guest os. I've found that vmware doesn't like the statically-compiled linux module. Try taking out COMPAT_LINUX from your kernel conf and let the kernel module provide the linux support. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 8:22:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.stes.net (ns.stes.net [194.42.131.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3890937B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ad (andrey.stes.net [194.42.131.3]) by ns.stes.net (8.11.6/8.9.3) with SMTP id f9GFLwW33362 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:22:01 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from aderyugin@stes.net) Reply-To: From: "Andrey Deryugin" To: Subject: "/ was not properly dismounted" is it good or bad with softupdates on ? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:21:43 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I asked before about "/ was not properly dismounted" with softupdates "on" but nobody answer how to fix it. May be it isn't so badly ? I try find anything about this issue in Internet and found lot of links with dmesg contained this message. But all those people just ignore above message. So subject Best regards ________________________________________________________________________ Andrey Deryugin Senior IT Manager Smart Traveller eServices Ltd. aderyugin@stes.net Tel. +357 2 511155 Fax.+357 2 513353 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 8:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB23637B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18246 invoked by uid 0); 16 Oct 2001 15:37:04 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Bender.ANT) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net (mp020-rz3) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 15:37:04 -0000 Received: (from ant@localhost) by Bender.ANT (8.11.5/8.11.5) id f9GFanh44679; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:36:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ant) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:36:49 +0200 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building of /usr/ports/devel/oaf fails really strangely? Message-ID: <20011016173649.A1636@Bender.ANT> Mail-Followup-To: Maxim Sobolev , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20011015190618.E1488@Bender.ANT> <200110160349.GAA35855@ipcard.iptcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110160349.GAA35855@ipcard.iptcom.net>; from sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 06:49:54AM +0300 Platform: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE Hostname: Bender.ANT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 06:49:54AM +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > This is because libxml port installed on your system is too old. > Please update it to the latest version available from the ports > and then try again. > > -Maxim > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Thanks a lot, that did the trick. HAND -- Andreas "ant" Ntaflos ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net Vienna, AUSTRIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 8:45:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shikima.mine.nu (pc1-card3-0-cust143.cdf.cable.ntl.com [62.252.49.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961AC37B40B for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rasputin by shikima.mine.nu with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15tWPj-0000sD-00; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:45:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:45:55 +0100 From: Rasputin To: Andrey Deryugin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "/ was not properly dismounted" is it good or bad with softupdates on ? Message-ID: <20011016164555.A3344@shikima.mine.nu> Reply-To: Rasputin References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from aderyugin@stes.net on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 06:21:43PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Andrey Deryugin [011016 16:25]: > Hi All, > > I asked before about "/ was not properly dismounted" with softupdates "on" > but nobody answer how to fix it. May be it isn't so badly ? > I try find anything about this issue in Internet and found lot of links with > dmesg contained this message. But all those people just ignore above > message. Does this happen every time you reboot? I don't know about softupdates causing this; are you shutting down the server properly? -- Sorry, no fortune this time. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 8:53:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D8337B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com ([64.228.86.246]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011016155308.LWDT4321.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@TMA-1.brad-x.com>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:53:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.brad-x.com [127.0.0.1]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02E87B1D4; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Laue To: Vivek Khera Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hangs running some linux apps. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Remove "linux_enable" from /etc/rc.conf, as this only instructs /etc/rc to load the linux kernel module at startup - I've had some fun with 4.3/4.4's module loading system, and it's "not all there yet". See if that improves things. Brad // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // On 16 Oct 2001, Vivek Khera wrote: > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted to ml.freebsd.stable as well. > > >>>>> "SN" == Serge Negodyuck writes: > > SN> The box is Athlon-750/256 MB RAM. FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE, cvsupped 16 Oct. > SN> Kernel compiled with option COMPAT_LINUX, and "linux_enable" is set in > SN> /etc/rc.conf. > > SN> There such applicatios: > SN> Linux Netscape 4.78 - works fine. > > SN> Vmware 2.0.4.1142. running win98 as guest os. > > I've found that vmware doesn't like the statically-compiled linux > module. Try taking out COMPAT_LINUX from your kernel conf and let the > kernel module provide the linux support. > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. > Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-240-453-8497 > AIM: vivekkhera Y!: vivek_khera http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9: 2: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mighty.grot.org (mighty.grot.org [216.15.97.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B939037B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mighty.grot.org (Postfix, from userid 515) id 53EAC5E1A; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:02:02 -0700 From: "R.P. Aditya" To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 inserts to get WaveLAN (wi) card to work? Message-ID: <20011016090202.C3300@mighty.grot.org> Reply-To: "R.P. Aditya" References: <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> <20011015114913.A67702@mighty.grot.org> <200110160351.f9G3pe728481@harmony.village.org> <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> <200110160603.f9G63d729084@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110160603.f9G63d729084@harmony.village.org>; from imp@harmony.village.org on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:03:39AM -0600 X-PGP-Key: http://www.grot.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x6405D8D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 12:03:39AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> "R.P. Aditya" writes: > : Okay, I took IRQ 8 out of my irq list in pccard.conf and rebooted, and there > : was no difference, it still took two inserts before the wi card would work. > > I'm pretty sure that pccardd is ignoring the irq line. Looks like you > have a TI-1131, which is a decent chip and most people that have it > seem to be happy. > > : > > insert after a "watchdog timer reset"): > : > > : > What does the rest of dmesg say? The above doesn't tell me too much. > > Hmmm. What happens if you add some debug printfs in > sys/dev/wi/if_wi.c in wi_pccard_probe. What error is wi_alloc > returning? Is it even being called? Seeing: Oct 15 21:57:00 netpunk pccardd[104]: Found existing driver (wi) for Lucent Technologies on the second insert, made me check my kernel config, and I noticed I'd left out the wi device entirely...so preloading if_wi.ko in loader.conf fixes "the problem"...sorry, PEBCAK here. However, is it *supposed* to work even if the kld/device driver isn't preloaded? Thanks for the help. Adi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9:20:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042AC37B40B for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 15tWxJ-00003W-00 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:20:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:20:36 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 inserts to get WaveLAN (wi) card to work? Message-ID: <20011016122036.D28998@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> <20011015114913.A67702@mighty.grot.org> <200110160351.f9G3pe728481@harmony.village.org> <20011015221942.A85263@mighty.grot.org> <200110160603.f9G63d729084@harmony.village.org> <20011016090202.C3300@mighty.grot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011016090202.C3300@mighty.grot.org>; from aditya@grot.org on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:02:02AM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "R.P. Aditya" probably said: > on the second insert, made me check my kernel config, and I noticed I'd left > out the wi device entirely...so preloading if_wi.ko in loader.conf fixes "the > problem"...sorry, PEBCAK here. However, is it *supposed* to work even if the > kld/device driver isn't preloaded? I got the same symptoms when trying to use the kld and also ended up with if_wi_load="YES" in loader.conf ... P. -- pir pir-sig@pir.net pir-sig@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9:44: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0FD37B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06548; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:42:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16786; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:42:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:42:00 -0600 To: Zero Sum Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > > > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. As others have pointed out, this was never the case. Here's a great example of why they aren't the same thing. printf("%s", ""); printf("%s", NULL); The first will work, the second will dump core. The second has never worked, and should never work. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9:46:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web14702.mail.yahoo.com (web14702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B39A37B405 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20011016164610.95419.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.9.25.11] by web14702.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:46:10 PDT Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:46:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Marker Subject: Re: SIGSEGV not blocked in gdm [was Re: setenv() cores with NULL value] To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I didn't mean to start a discussion about NULL pointers. I believe setenv() should core in the test program sent in by Heath Nielson. The interesting thing about gdm is that it does _not_ core dump. Furthermore, I can't find it ever blocking SIGSEGV in its source. Which is why I referenced this post (there is a whole thread): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=158037+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/2001/freebsd-stable/20010114.freebsd-stable Before reading that I was not aware you could block a SIGSEGV. But gdm doesn't even appear to block that signal. (grep for sigation, then SIGSEGV, didn't find anything to suggest it blocks SIGSEGV.) So my question is why does Mr. Nielson's program dump core and gdm does not? -dave > While I don't know if gdm should be setting a NULL > value or not, I ran this simple program: > > #include > #include > > int main(int argc, char* argv[]) > { > char* name = "TEST"; > char* value = NULL; > int ret; > > printf("value: %s\n", value); > ret = setenv(name, value, 1); > printf("ret: %d\n", ret); > return 0; > } > > On FreeBSD I get: > hershey:~$ ./a.out > value: (null) > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > > On Linux: > catskill 23: ./a.out > value: (null) > ret: 0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9:50:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067FE37B409 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hilfy.ece.cmu.edu (HILFY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.133]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9GGnvl10311; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:49:10 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Nate Williams Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <5190000.1003250950@hilfy.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0 (SunOS/SPARC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:42:00 -0600, Nate Williams wrote: +----- | printf("%s", ""); | printf("%s", NULL); | | The first will work, the second will dump core. The second has never | worked, and should never work. +--->8 FWIW, Xenix's printf() would print "(null)" in the second case. (Not that this should be an argument for it being acceptable.) -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [JAPH][WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [linux: proof of the million monkeys theory] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 9:52: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kcilink.com [216.194.193.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F420F37B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [216.194.193.106]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F272E461; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9GGq2741428; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:52:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.26034.475292.496469@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:52:02 -0400 To: Brad Laue Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD hangs running some linux apps. In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.96 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "BL" == Brad Laue writes: BL> Remove "linux_enable" from /etc/rc.conf, as this only instructs /etc/rc to BL> load the linux kernel module at startup - I've had some fun with 4.3/4.4's BL> module loading system, and it's "not all there yet". BL> See if that improves things. I did that too; but the problem is that the kernel modules loaded by vmware expect to load the linux kernel module, and (at least used to) have problems with the non kld linux emu. Don't know if this is still the case. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:19: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fizzbang.musinghalfwit.org (cs6669197-172.austin.rr.com [66.69.197.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EA237B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by fizzbang.musinghalfwit.org with local; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:48:11 -0500 From: "Eric P Liedtke" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: psm0 out of sync Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:48:11 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain sync without rebooting. I've tried killing and restarting moused but of course that didn't help cuz moused isn't out of sync the actual device is. Any help would be appreciated. -Eric Liedtke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:23:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.orem.verio.net (gatekeeper.orem.verio.net [192.41.0.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03BE37B40D for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.orem.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C733BF122 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:23:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (aaronm@localhost) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9GHN4611651; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:23:05 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:23:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Aaron Mildenstein To: Eric P Liedtke Cc: Subject: Re: psm0 out of sync In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I experienced the same thing with my own KVM switch. The problem seemed to be related to using a USB mouse with the PS/2 adapter. As soon as I switched to a PS/2 only mouse, the problem went away. I don't know if that's what's going on with yours, but a different mouse will probably work based on my experience. Aaron Mildenstein UNIX Systems Administrator Verio Web Hosting __ "Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup." On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Eric P Liedtke wrote: > I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync > when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and > back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain > sync without rebooting. I've tried killing and restarting > moused but of course that didn't help cuz moused isn't out of > sync the actual device is. Any help would be appreciated. > > -Eric Liedtke > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:24: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC1837B40B for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hilfy.ece.cmu.edu (HILFY.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.133]) (authenticated) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f9GHNul13246; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:23:09 -0400 From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" To: Eric P Liedtke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psm0 out of sync Message-ID: <13380000.1003252989@hilfy.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0 (SunOS/SPARC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, October 16, 2001 16:48:11 +0000, Eric P Liedtke wrote: +----- | I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync | when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and | back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain +--->8 Check the manual for the KVM switch. On the Cybex switches we use, CTRL CTRL M R RET or CTRL CTRL M W RET resets the mouse, depending on the type of mouse. -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][freebsd] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [JAPH][WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university [linux: proof of the million monkeys theory] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA4E37B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE790BD4B; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30005; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:25:16 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9GHOF134975; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: "Bri" Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE - question reguarding 3COM 900TPO 10Mbps net card. References: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Oct 2001 10:24:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 12 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Bri" writes: > I've made a new install on the system on the new hard drive I've put 4.4 > RELEASE on the new hard drive and the new Promise TX-2 controller which are > both working fine but after 4 or so days the 3COM 900TPO network card on xl0 > die's after around this time I know it die's because the light blacks out on > the hub and the system then becomes locked up and then it reboots and comes > back in ok and a FreeBSD reinitializes the network card again without the > need to completely turn off the system. My "3Com 3c900B-TPO Etherlink XL" has been working fine under 4.4-R for a few weeks. (Though I do ifconfig it "down" and "up" at least daily.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:28:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288BD37B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 52177 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Oct 2001 17:29:42 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.28294.14549.91586@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:29:41 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> References: <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <10872.1003237569@thrush.ravenbrook.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nick Barnes writes: > At 2001-10-16 10:02:11+0000, Zero Sum writes: > > Has this changed without me noticing? > > It was never generally true. Your memory may have its roots in the > fact that some operating systems on some machines in the early 80s > (VMS on VAXen, ISTR) wired page zero to be zero on read, discard on > write, so that you could read from a NULL pointer (which was address > zero in that -- and most -- implementations of C) and get zero bytes. > On such a machine you could indeed pass NULL to a function that was > expecting a string and get the same behaviour as passing a pointer to > an empty string. Of course, the whole reason that VAX UNIX went to the trouble of putting a zero in page zero was due to the innumerable C programs written for PDP-11 UNIX which took advantage of this accident in the PDP-11 memory mapping. It is a complete accident that byte zero of every PDP-11 data-space was a zero, thus allowing the so-called null-pointer error to creep in. I believe that the Bell Labs version of 32V and also Interdata UNIX "fixed" this problem by not mapping data page zero to force this bug to be found and fixed. The BSD people did not want to fix all of the broken programs in the world, so they perpetuated the PDP-11-induced error. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:36:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B323B37B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 52201 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Oct 2001 17:37:25 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.28757.640334.764871@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:37:25 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: psm0 out of sync In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.92 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric P Liedtke writes: > I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync > when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and > back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain > sync without rebooting. I've tried killing and restarting > moused but of course that didn't help cuz moused isn't out of > sync the actual device is. Any help would be appreciated. Set bit 0x8000 in the psm device by modifying your loader.conf: psm_flags=0x8000 This will force a mouse reset when switching with the kvm box. This should be installed as the default mode and not called a "hack" since it is the most logical thing to do. Unfortunately, the maintainer of psm.c has some sort of reservations about making this behavior the default. My wireless mouse requires this setting with no intervening switch box. I never see multiple instances of reset behavior, so I don't know why this completely logical code path is relegated to the euphemism of "hack" and not made default. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 10:42:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C98F37B405; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:42:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9GHgAv47946; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:42:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:42:10 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Mike Pumford Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes Message-ID: <20011016124209.A33631@dan.emsphone.com> References: <200110160601.f9G611T20245@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> <200110161236.NAA17246@lion.mpc-data.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110161236.NAA17246@lion.mpc-data.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT X-message-flag: Outlook Error Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Oct 16), Mike Pumford said: > > > One thing which surprises me, though --- all other processes are > > > zero. Is this normal? This is my first time seeing FreeBSD run. > > > I have an identical box here running linux (and each box runs a > > > minimum of services), where at least top will show nonzero CPU > > > percentage in top, usually around 0.5%. Does linux have more > > > fine-grained timing, or is it cheating, or does the margin of > > > error render this test essentially meaningless anyway? > > top on Linux is really slow compared to the BSD versions. It is > slower to update and always consumes a significant chunk of CPU. BSD > top seems much more efficient. Possibly down to the fact the BSD top > gathers its info with libkvm while linux top has to parse a load of > files in /proc. I suspect there may be differences in the CPU usage > calculation algorithm as well. The first thing I do on every Linux box installed here at work is to compile top-3.5beta12. Works great. Whatever ships with Linux doesn't deserve to be called 'top'. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 11:18: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tensor.xs4all.nl (tensor.xs4all.nl [213.84.53.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A451137B410 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.xs4all.nl (matrix.xs4all.nl [192.168.1.2]) by tensor.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA24C3E3C; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:18:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:17:51 +0200 From: Dimitry Andric X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.54/10) Business Reply-To: Dimitry Andric X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl> To: Nate Williams Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2001-10-16 at 18:42:00 Nate Williams wrote: NW> printf("%s", ""); NW> printf("%s", NULL); NW> The first will work, the second will dump core. Nope, it will print the string "(null)", as you can see in /usr/src/lib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c, around line 673: case 's': if ((cp = GETARG(char *)) == NULL) cp = "(null)"; Almost any printf I've ever seen does the same. NW> The second has never worked, and should never work. That's debatable. In the interest of consistency, it should surely coredump, but for the sake of compatibility, it shouldn't. You don't want to know how many times I see (null) strings in program messages, log files, etc. :) Cheers, - -- Dimitry Andric PGP Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~dim/dim.asc Fingerprint: 7AB462D2CE35FC6D42394FCDB05EA30A2E2096A3 Lbh ner abj va ivbyngvba bs gur QZPN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: http://www.gn.apc.org/duncan/stoa_cover.htm iQA/AwUBO8xrx7BeowouIJajEQIrFwCfQnJEELGsIw9zF++tv/DKgC8JW4EAoPFP TyJjYSqpdpVB0khqRekaywgq =FjNP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 11:19: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB8137B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10548; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:18:59 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18070; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:18:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.31250.176938.430969@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:18:58 -0600 To: Dimitry Andric Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-Reply-To: <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > NW> printf("%s", ""); > NW> printf("%s", NULL); > > NW> The first will work, the second will dump core. > > Nope, it will print the string "(null)", as you can see in > /usr/src/lib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c, around line 673: > > case 's': > if ((cp = GETARG(char *)) == NULL) > cp = "(null)"; > > Almost any printf I've ever seen does the same. Well, I'll be. :( > NW> The second has never worked, and should never work. > > That's debatable. In the interest of consistency, it should surely > coredump, but for the sake of compatibility, it shouldn't. You don't > want to know how many times I see (null) strings in program messages, > log files, etc. :) Thanks for the clarification! Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 11:36: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 4evermail.com (equinox.4evermail.com [204.92.209.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B9CE37B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 49673 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 18:37:00 -0000 Received: from 24-168-45-37.nyc.rr.com (HELO sioux) (24.168.45.37) by equinox.4evermail.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 18:37:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Cc: Subject: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:30:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) -- Jonathan -- Jonathan M. Slivko Head Systems Administrator, 4EverMail Hosting Services http://www.4evermail.com -- Are YOU ready for the new Internet? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 12:17:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68A137B40A; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551EF243FD; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:17:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:16:19 -0500 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Cc: In-Reply-To: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:30 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: >Hello all, > >Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read >through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script >that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without >much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) >-- Jonathan Automatic merging would be a very bad thing. Here's how I do it: If the changed file is one I made no local modifications to, aka was the default per my previous install, I let mergemaster replace the old file completely. If the file didn't exist in my previous install, I let mergemaster install it. If the changed file is one I made modifications to, I leave it be and merge the changes on my own. I then rerun mergemaster until it tells me all files are updated. You should *always* have backups of /etc available before you do any of this. >-- >Jonathan M. Slivko >Head Systems Administrator, 4EverMail Hosting Services >http://www.4evermail.com -- Are YOU ready for the new Internet? --chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 12:19:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 16A0637B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5920 invoked by uid 100); 16 Oct 2001 19:19:38 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.34890.532567.881956@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:19:38 -0500 To: Cc: Subject: Re: "/ was not properly dismounted" is it good or bad with softupdates on ? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrey Deryugin types: > Hi All, > > I asked before about "/ was not properly dismounted" with softupdates "on" > but nobody answer how to fix it. May be it isn't so badly ? "/ was not properly dismounted" is *always* bad. Avoid it. With softupdates vs. the default mount, you are less likely to have the directory structure on the disk corrupted. You are no less likely to have data in files corrupted. Does that answer your question? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 12:27:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gvr.gvr.org (gvr.gvr.org [212.61.40.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCBB37B413 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gvr.gvr.org (Postfix, from userid 657) id 0C7A95807; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:27:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:27:14 +0200 From: Guido van Rooij To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011016212713.A6881@gvr.gvr.org> References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an > > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be > > allowed to pass through. > > That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of > ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, > communication prohibited etc. > Of course that is allowed in the UDP and TCP cases. However, in the case of ICMP request packets, you will never get back an ICMP error, because the protocol forbids sending ICMP errors for ICMP packets. To quote the rfc: To avoid the infinite regress of messages about messages etc., no ICMP messages are sent about ICMP messages. -Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 13:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F91237B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 65623 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 20:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy.the-i-pa.com) (151.201.71.210) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 20:40:31 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology To: "Andrey Deryugin" , Subject: Re: "/ was not properly dismounted" is it good or bad with softupdates on ? Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:33:32 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101616333203.01347@proxy.the-i-pa.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 16 October 2001 11:21, Andrey Deryugin wrote: > Hi All, > > I asked before about "/ was not properly dismounted" with softupdates "on" > but nobody answer how to fix it. May be it isn't so badly ? Yes. It is _always_very_bad_. > I try find anything about this issue in Internet and found lot of links > with dmesg contained this message. But all those people just ignore above > message. As root, enter the command "halt". Whach the shutdown messages carefully, are there any errors complaining about anything that could be related to this problem? When the system boots back up after a successful halt, do you see the "/ was not properly dismounted" message? Does it happen EVERY time? -- Bill Moran Potential Technology technical services (412) 793-4257 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 13:32:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1383A37B401; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 13:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f9GKWSB18402; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:32:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:32:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, dillon@freebsd.org, alfred@freebsd.org Subject: Re: coredump() broken for nfs filesystems In-Reply-To: <20011015211333.B576-100000@delplex.bde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I've mentioned before, the current credential-munging here is simply broken; however, the brokenness I previously observed is independent of the brokenness you are now reporting. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: > coredump() now usually creates empty core files for nfs filesystems. > This seems to be caused by the changes in rev.1.132 (-current) and > rev.1.72.2.9 (RELENG_4), and braindamage in nfs_dolock(): > > Index: kern_sig.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/kern/kern_sig.c,v > retrieving revision 1.131 > retrieving revision 1.132 > diff -u -2 -r1.131 -r1.132 > --- kern_sig.c 6 Sep 2001 22:20:41 -0000 1.131 > +++ kern_sig.c 8 Sep 2001 20:02:32 -0000 1.132 > > ... > @@ -1896,6 +1898,17 @@ > NDFREE(&nd, NDF_ONLY_PNBUF); > vp = nd.ni_vp; > + > + VOP_UNLOCK(vp, 0, p); > + lf.l_whence = SEEK_SET; > + lf.l_start = 0; > + lf.l_len = 0; > + lf.l_type = F_WRLCK; > + error = VOP_ADVLOCK(vp, (caddr_t)p, F_SETLK, &lf, F_FLOCK); > + if (error) > + goto out2; > + > > This usually goes to out2 with error EOPNOTSUPP if the core file is on > an nfs filesystem. > > From nfs_dolock(): > > % /* > % * XXX Hack to temporarily allow this process (regardless of it's creds) > % * to open the fifo we need to write to. vn_open() really should > % * take a ucred (and once it does, this code should be fixed to use > % * proc0's ucred. > % */ > % saved_uid = p->p_ucred->cr_uid; > % p->p_ucred->cr_uid = 0; /* temporarly run the vn_open as root */ > % > % fmode = FFLAGS(O_WRONLY); > % error = vn_open(&nd, &fmode, 0); > > This vn_open() usually fails, because root is usually mapped so has even > less write permission than most users. I don't see how nfs write locks can > work for syscalls either. > > % p->p_ucred->cr_uid = saved_uid; > % if (error != 0) { > % return (error == ENOENT ? EOPNOTSUPP : error); > % } > > EOPNOTSUPP is a strange error for foot shooting. > > Bruce > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 14: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from brockman.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB28937B40D; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p871.as1.limerick1.eircom.net ([159.134.167.103] helo=dansat.data-plan.com) by brockman.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 15tbQP-0006A0-00; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:06:59 +0100 Received: (from timbo@localhost) by dansat.data-plan.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9GL81455920; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:08:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from timbo) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:08:00 +0100 From: Tim Bunce To: Christopher Schulte Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Message-ID: <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org>; from christopher@schulte.org on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:16:19PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:16:19PM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote: > At 02:30 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read > >through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script > >that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without > >much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) > >-- Jonathan > > Automatic merging would be a very bad thing. Here's how I do it: > > If the changed file is one I made no local modifications to, aka was the > default per my previous install, I let mergemaster replace the old file > completely. > > If the file didn't exist in my previous install, I let mergemaster install it. > > If the changed file is one I made modifications to, I leave it be and merge > the changes on my own. I then rerun mergemaster until it tells me all > files are updated. Of course some way could be found to let mergemaster detect the first case (based on saving 'master copies of installed /etc files' somewhere I guess). The second is trivial. That just leaves the third. I think having some way to let mergemaster only hassle users with questions about files they've modified previously makes a lot of sense. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 14:23:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8477137B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23489; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:22:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:22:27 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Nate Williams Cc: Zero Sum , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011016142227.A23454@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 10:42:00AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Here's a great example of why they aren't the same thing. > > printf("%s", ""); > printf("%s", NULL); > > The first will work, the second will dump core. The second has never > worked, and should never work. As some people have pointed out, much early C code was written on DEC Vaxen, which returned zeros if you dereferenced a NULL pointer. So the second one would have worked. So, the code was wrong, but it did what the folks who wrote it thought it should do. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 14:27:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 975B837B40C for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.143.200.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.143.200] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15tbkO-0003WG-00; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:27:49 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9GLQH905268; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:26:13 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Guido van Rooij Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011016142613.D4437@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> <20011016212713.A6881@gvr.gvr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011016212713.A6881@gvr.gvr.org>; from guido@gvr.org on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:27:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Guido van Rooij wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > IIRC ipfilter does not allow '_any_ ICMP' in such a case: if you send an > > > 'ICMP echo' with keep-state then only 'ICMP echo reply' packets will be > > > allowed to pass through. > > > > That's bad, because you usually want to see other types of > > ICMP replies, too, such as TTL exceeded, host unreachable, > > communication prohibited etc. > > > > Of course that is allowed in the UDP and TCP cases. However, in the case of > ICMP request packets, you will never get back an ICMP error, because > the protocol forbids sending ICMP errors for ICMP packets. > To quote the rfc: > To avoid the infinite regress of messages about messages > etc., no ICMP messages are sent about ICMP messages. That is not true. An ICMP error is never sent in response to an ICMP _error_ message. You will get various ICMP error messages in response to something like a ping. ICMP-based traceroutes count on this fact. RFC1122 explictly states, An ICMP error message MUST NOT be sent as the result of receiving: * an ICMP error message, or * a datagram destined to an IP broadcast or IP multicast address, or * a datagram sent as a link-layer broadcast, or * a non-initial fragment, or * a datagram whose source address does not define a single host -- e.g., a zero address, a loopback address, a broadcast address, a multicast address, or a Class E address. What types are "ICMP error messages" is defined earlier in the RFC, ICMP messages are grouped into two classes. * ICMP error messages: Destination Unreachable (see Section 3.2.2.1) Redirect (see Section 3.2.2.2) Source Quench (see Section 3.2.2.3) Time Exceeded (see Section 3.2.2.4) Parameter Problem (see Section 3.2.2.5) * ICMP query messages: Echo (see Section 3.2.2.6) Information (see Section 3.2.2.7) Timestamp (see Section 3.2.2.8) Address Mask (see Section 3.2.2.9) It is allowed, and even expected, that ICMP error messages will be generated in response to problematic ICMP query messages. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 14:55:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gvr.gvr.org (gvr.gvr.org [212.61.40.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D399137B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gvr.gvr.org (Postfix, from userid 657) id 623765807; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:55:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:55:47 +0200 From: Guido van Rooij To: "Crist J. Clark" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW or IPFILTER? Message-ID: <20011016235547.A8081@gvr.gvr.org> References: <20011014180756.A17546@adv.devet.org> <200110141616.f9EGG5x37636@lurza.secnetix.de> <20011016212713.A6881@gvr.gvr.org> <20011016142613.D4437@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011016142613.D4437@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:26:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:26:13PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > Of course that is allowed in the UDP and TCP cases. However, in the case of > > ICMP request packets, you will never get back an ICMP error, because > > the protocol forbids sending ICMP errors for ICMP packets. > > To quote the rfc: > > To avoid the infinite regress of messages about messages > > etc., no ICMP messages are sent about ICMP messages. > > That is not true. An ICMP error is never sent in response to an ICMP > _error_ message. You will get various ICMP error messages in response > to something like a ping. ICMP-based traceroutes count on this > fact. RFC1122 explictly states, You are right. The quote from the RFC is correct however.. Anyway, I just checked the IPfilter state code and in fact it does work correctly (i.e. RFC1122 complient) for ICMP queries as well. -Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 14:59:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BA337B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23603; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:59:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:59:09 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Dimitry Andric Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011016145909.B23454@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl>; from dim@xs4all.nl on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:17:51PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:17:51PM +0200, Dimitry Andric wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2001-10-16 at 18:42:00 Nate Williams wrote: > > NW> printf("%s", ""); > NW> printf("%s", NULL); > > NW> The first will work, the second will dump core. > > Nope, it will print the string "(null)", as you can see in > /usr/src/lib/libc/stdio/vfprintf.c, around line 673: > > case 's': > if ((cp = GETARG(char *)) == NULL) > cp = "(null)"; > > Almost any printf I've ever seen does the same. Yes, but that is a function of printf(3), not of dereferencing NULL pointers. Modify slightly: /* dereference a null pointer */ #define NULL 0 main() { char *foo; static int bar; foo = "junk"; bar = *foo; foo = NULL; bar = *foo; } -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 15:24:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep15-int.chello.nl (amsfep15-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B23737B40F for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chello.nl ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep15-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011016222425.WPSR12294.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@chello.nl> for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:24:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:24:25 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Reply-To: dehartog@rootsr.com Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick O'Reilly wrote: > Hi! > > I picked up a funny with this combination which might be the same problem > you are having. > > When mod_ssl is installed it add its LoadModule directive inside a > conditional block in httpd.conf so that you can do and 'apachectl start' or > 'apachectl startssl' to start with or without SSL support. That's fine. > > The problem is that after that the PHP4 installation tries to add its > LoadModule directive after the last one found in the httpd.conf file, and so > the PHP4 module will only load conditionally (IF you do an 'apachectl > startssl'). What's even worse is that when you do an 'apachectl restart' > (which is what the 'make install' for apache and PHP4 attempt to do) the > LoadModule for PHP4 is never loaded. > > So, in summary, edit your /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf file as follows: > You will find something like this: > ---------------------------------------- > > LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > > ---------------------------------------- > Change it like so: > ---------------------------------------- > > LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so > > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > ---------------------------------------- > > And, similarly: > ---------------------------------------- > > AddModule mod_ssl.c > AddModule mod_php4.c > > ---------------------------------------- > should be: > ---------------------------------------- > > AddModule mod_ssl.c > > AddModule mod_php4.c > ---------------------------------------- > > Hope this is what you need. > > Patrick. > Sounds reasonable and I made that change. However, installing mod_php4 also installs the vanilla apache over the already existing apache+mod_ssl (beause the built-in dependency on apache-1.3.20) thereby not only modifying/destroying hhtpd.conf but lots of other files (including httpd itself). Starting apache then gives: Syntax error on line 208 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: API module structure `define_module' in file /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_define.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO? That's probably because all the modules that come with apache+mod_ssl are overwritten by the versions from the vanilla apache. I guess there must be somebody out there that has apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4???? And what was the exact sequence of installations of which versions? And was that straight from pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.4-release or did you build from the ports directory (and with what additional flags/tricks)??? Thanks for your efforts, Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 15:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from upeople.iserver.net (upeople.iserver.net [128.121.116.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BD837B410; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mesa.unixan.com (djb@mesa.dsl.unixan.com [206.124.137.18]) by upeople.iserver.net (8.11.6) id f9GMTRM84827; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:29:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:29:27 -0700 From: Daniel Brown To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Message-Id: <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> In-Reply-To: <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.2 (GTK+ 1.2.7; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: ".E)>Dp:mHJC%;_j&|O(iET^Y#v)'R,3Th)?un#2[`x7J&@ClPD0?MlzHBP61gci=t1G!Jf8V9r+nMFv:GX&}5R2YZ@lzKO_S5,^.!^<^OijwA[0*`cfC'.Ft7-qcuK4^-Cu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FYI, mergemaster already has a -i flag to install new files that don't exist in the target directory. As for replacing files that had not be modified since the last merge, some sort of MD5 checksum database would probably be best. The Debian package management system utilizes MD5 checksum during a binary package upgrade, to determine whether it is safe to automatically replace a configuration file owned by the package. Perhaps each installation performed via mergemaster can create a plain-text list of MD5 checksums each time it installs new files, and these files are automatically replaced during the next upgrade. To be sure first-time upgprades to -RELEASE series occur easily, perhaps installation media should start including such MD5 checksums. Personally, I was thinking of hacking this feature into my own copies of mergemaster some time in the medium future. =) -Daniel ------------ Quoted Message ------------ Date...: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:08:00 +0100 From...: Tim Bunce To.....: Christopher Schulte CC.....: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:16:19PM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote: > At 02:30 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read > >through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script > >that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without > >much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) > >-- Jonathan > > Automatic merging would be a very bad thing. Here's how I do it: > > If the changed file is one I made no local modifications to, aka was the > default per my previous install, I let mergemaster replace the old file > completely. > > If the file didn't exist in my previous install, I let mergemaster install it. > > If the changed file is one I made modifications to, I leave it be and merge > the changes on my own. I then rerun mergemaster until it tells me all > files are updated. Of course some way could be found to let mergemaster detect the first case (based on saving 'master copies of installed /etc files' somewhere I guess). The second is trivial. That just leaves the third. I think having some way to let mergemaster only hassle users with questions about files they've modified previously makes a lot of sense. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 15:36:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.gsfc.nasa.gov (odin.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.50.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C9EF37B40F for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov (triana.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.221.199]) by odin.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9GMRwf03127; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sungod.gsfc.nasa.gov.gsfc.nasa.gov (sungod.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.221.167]) by sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id f9GMaAu09475; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:36:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Singletary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15308.46670.9609.731464@sungod.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:35:58 -0400 (EDT) To: dehartog@rootsr.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? In-Reply-To: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> References: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I guess there must be somebody out there that has > apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4???? No problem: # cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl # make install # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 # make install Works great for me, except for `apachectl restart'. tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:13: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f64.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95337B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:13:01 -0700 Received: from 161.184.39.167 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:13:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [161.184.39.167] From: "Jeff C." To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: My ide drive is damn slow.. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:13:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2001 23:13:01.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[19F4B5D0:01C15698] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Board: Intel L440GX+ I have 2 disks in my machine. SCSI (18GB U2W 10Krpm) and a IDE 30GB maxtor (7200rpm) The maxtor is mounted on /www2. If I do anything on /www2 it almost stops responding for other requests. For example; tar -cvzf domain.tgz domain.com runs smooth. If I jump to another session and do a 'ls -la' it takes about 10 seconds to return. The SCSI drive does not have this issue. I think there must be a problem because locally I have freebsd running on IDE and it does not produce the same conditions. FreeBSD XXXXX.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #5: Wed Apr 25 20:35:16 PDT 2001 root@XXXXX.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYK i386 DMESG output: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (696.41-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 536805376 (524224K bytes) avail memory = 518160384 (506016K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0465000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pcib3: at device 15.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib3 ahc0: port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xf4100000-0xf4100fff irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0x2400-0x24ff mem 0xf4101000-0xf4101fff irq 11 at device 12.1 on pci0 aic7896/97: Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0x2800-0x283f mem 0xf4000000-0xf40fffff,0xf4102000-0xf4102fff irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX isab0: at device 18.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x2860-0x286f at device 18.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0x2840-0x285f irq 10 at device 18.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 18.3 on pci0 pci0: at 20.0 pcib1: on motherboard pci3: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, logging limited to 10 packets/entry DUMMYNET initialized (010124) IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging limited to 10 packets/entry by default BRIDGE 010131, have 10 interfaces -- index 1 type 6 phy 0 addrl 6 addr XX.XX.XX.XX.XX.XX IP Filter: v3.4.16 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled ad0: 29311MB [59554/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a da0 at ahc1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:18: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from seven.Alameda.net (seven.Alameda.net [64.81.63.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665FF37B409; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by seven.Alameda.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1954C3A24E; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:17:56 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Daniel Brown Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Message-ID: <20011016161755.G63836@seven.alameda.net> Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com>; from djb@unixan.com on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 03:29:27PM -0700 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 03:29:27PM -0700, Daniel Brown wrote: > FYI, mergemaster already has a -i flag to install new files that don't > exist in the target directory. > > As for replacing files that had not be modified since the last merge, > some sort of MD5 checksum database would probably be best. The Debian > package management system utilizes MD5 checksum during a binary package > upgrade, to determine whether it is safe to automatically replace a > configuration file owned by the package. > > Perhaps each installation performed via mergemaster can create a > plain-text list of MD5 checksums each time it installs new files, and > these files are automatically replaced during the next upgrade. To be > sure first-time upgprades to -RELEASE series occur easily, perhaps > installation media should start including such MD5 checksums. > > Personally, I was thinking of hacking this feature into my own copies of > mergemaster some time in the medium future. =) The -RELEASE have mtree.* files with the MD5 of the files in the release, but they don't seem to end up on the installed system. Another thing would be to have a cron job of some kind which builds those files once in a while, which can then be used for testing. > > -Daniel > > ------------ Quoted Message ------------ > Date...: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:08:00 +0100 > From...: Tim Bunce > To.....: Christopher Schulte > CC.....: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 02:16:19PM -0500, Christopher Schulte wrote: > > At 02:30 PM 10/16/2001 -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > > > >Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read > > >through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script > > >that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without > > >much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) > > >-- Jonathan > > > > Automatic merging would be a very bad thing. Here's how I do it: > > > > If the changed file is one I made no local modifications to, aka was the > > default per my previous install, I let mergemaster replace the old file > > completely. > > > > If the file didn't exist in my previous install, I let mergemaster install it. > > > > If the changed file is one I made modifications to, I leave it be and merge > > the changes on my own. I then rerun mergemaster until it tells me all > > files are updated. > > Of course some way could be found to let mergemaster detect the first case > (based on saving 'master copies of installed /etc files' somewhere I guess). > The second is trivial. That just leaves the third. > > I think having some way to let mergemaster only hassle users with questions > about files they've modified previously makes a lot of sense. > > Tim. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from yowie.cc.uq.edu.au (yowie.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBE137B403; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (gs891mmwkj9qhz9k@noodle.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.128.222]) by yowie.cc.uq.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA13142; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:20:04 +1000 (GMT+1000) Message-Id: <200110162320.JAA13142@yowie.cc.uq.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Christopher Smith Organization: Information Technology Services, University of Queensland To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:20:03 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> In-Reply-To: <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [chomp] > Perhaps each installation performed via mergemaster can create a > plain-text list of MD5 checksums each time it installs new files, and > these files are automatically replaced during the next upgrade. To be > sure first-time upgprades to -RELEASE series occur easily, perhaps > installation media should start including such MD5 checksums. > > Personally, I was thinking of hacking this feature into my own copies of > mergemaster some time in the medium future. =) How about an option to specify a list of files to exclude from the comparison ? That way, if -i is specified they are always copied over the existing files and if not, they are omitted from any comparison altogether. (This is something I've been half working on myself for a while now - I simply haven't been motivated enough to finish it - not enough upgrades to annoy me :). The MD5 checksums is a good idea as well, and definitely preferable from a newbie's perspective as they are less likely to know which files to specify on the ignore list. P'raps even merge both ideas into one - a "preprocessor" that does the file comparisons to find files modified since install that then passes those files in an exclusion list... -- Christopher Smith, Systems Administrator. Server & Security Group, Information Technology Services. The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia, 4072. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:31:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FBC37B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootsr.com ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011016233126.VDXQ25701.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@rootsr.com>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:31:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCCC349.7040104@rootsr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:31:21 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Singletary Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? References: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> <15308.46670.9609.731464@sungod.gsfc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Singletary wrote: >>I guess there must be somebody out there that has >>apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4???? >> > > No problem: > > # cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl > # make install > # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 > # make install > > Works great for me, except for `apachectl restart'. > > tim > Thank you, it works! What was the real problem? If you install from the packages in ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/...., apparently dependencies are also on the level of packages (is that generally true?). So, mod_php4 also installs vanilla apache over whatever version of apache that's already there. If you build and install from /usr/ports/*/*, dependencies can have better granularity and mod_php4 only checked for /usr/local/sbin/axps and was happy with whatever version was there. Again, thank you! Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:45: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF6637B40E; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA39213; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:43:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Christopher Smith Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? In-Reply-To: <200110162320.JAA13142@yowie.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Christopher Smith wrote: > [chomp] > > > P'raps even merge both ideas into one - a "preprocessor" that does the file > comparisons to find files modified since install that then passes those > files in an exclusion list... > The problem with ignoring modified files is that you modify (for example) /etc/group when you add a user, but sometimes there's a new "system" group that needs to be added (for example, the network group was added a few years ago). Changes get made to /etc/defaults/rc.conf that require changes to /etc/rc.conf; also the /etc/.ssh stuff. So leaving modified files alone is not a complete solution. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 16:57:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3068F37B405; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:57:48 -0700 (PDT) To: Hans de Hartog Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tim Singletary Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:57:45 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 10/16/2001 04:57:48 PM, Serialize complete at 10/16/2001 04:57:48 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0083A27588256AE7_=" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0083A27588256AE7_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't forget to move the mod lines for php4 outside the ifdefine for ssl, as mentioned previously, this will take care of the apachectl restart problem. Again as mentioned before: ---------------------------------------- LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so ---------------------------------------- Change it like so: ---------------------------------------- LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so ---------------------------------------- And, similarly: ---------------------------------------- AddModule mod_ssl.c AddModule mod_php4.c ---------------------------------------- should be: ---------------------------------------- AddModule mod_ssl.c AddModule mod_php4.c ---------------------------------------- Hans de Hartog Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 10/16/2001 04:31 PM To: Tim Singletary cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? Tim Singletary wrote: >>I guess there must be somebody out there that has >>apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4???? >> > > No problem: > > # cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl > # make install > # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4 > # make install > > Works great for me, except for `apachectl restart'. > > tim > Thank you, it works! What was the real problem? If you install from the packages in ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/...., apparently dependencies are also on the level of packages (is that generally true?). So, mod_php4 also installs vanilla apache over whatever version of apache that's already there. If you build and install from /usr/ports/*/*, dependencies can have better granularity and mod_php4 only checked for /usr/local/sbin/axps and was happy with whatever version was there. Again, thank you! Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message --=_alternative 0083A27588256AE7_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Don't forget to move the mod lines for php4 outside the ifdefine for ssl, as mentioned previously, this will take care of the apachectl restart problem.  Again as mentioned before:

----------------------------------------
<IfDefine SSL>
LoadModule ssl_module         libexec/apache/libssl.so
LoadModule php4_module        libexec/apache/libphp4.so
</IfDefine>
----------------------------------------
Change it like so:
----------------------------------------
<IfDefine SSL>
LoadModule ssl_module         libexec/apache/libssl.so
</IfDefine>
LoadModule php4_module        libexec/apache/libphp4.so
----------------------------------------

And, similarly:
----------------------------------------
<IfDefine SSL>
AddModule mod_ssl.c
AddModule mod_php4.c
</IfDefine>
----------------------------------------
should be:
----------------------------------------
<IfDefine SSL>
AddModule mod_ssl.c
</IfDefine>
AddModule mod_php4.c
----------------------------------------


Hans de Hartog <dehartog@rootsr.com>
Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG

10/16/2001 04:31 PM

       
        To:        Tim Singletary <tsingle@triana.gsfc.nasa.gov>
        cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
        Subject:        Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ?


Tim Singletary wrote:

>>I guess there must be somebody out there that has
>>apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4????
>>
>
> No problem:
>
>    # cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl
>    # make install
>    # cd /usr/ports/www/mod_php4
>    # make install
>
> Works great for me, except for `apachectl restart'.
>
> tim
>


Thank you, it works!

What was the real problem? If you install from the
packages in ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/....,
apparently dependencies are also on the level of
packages (is that generally true?).
So, mod_php4 also installs vanilla apache over whatever
version of apache that's already there.
If you build and install from /usr/ports/*/*,
dependencies can have better granularity and
mod_php4 only checked for /usr/local/sbin/axps
and was happy with whatever version was there.

Again, thank you!
Hans de Hartog.




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Message-ID: <20011016165855.A22874@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jefffbsd@hotmail.com on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:13:01PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 11:13:01PM +0000, Jeff C. wrote: > FreeBSD XXXXX.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #5: Wed Apr 25 20:35:16 PDT > 2001 root@XXXXX.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MYK i386 Turn back on write caching..see the archives for extensive discussion. 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It is slower > to update and always consumes a significant chunk of CPU. BSD top seems > much more efficient. Possibly down to the fact the BSD top gathers its > info with libkvm while linux top has to parse a load of files in /proc. I > suspect there may be differences in the CPU usage calculation algorithm > as well. The calculation is different, yes. A while back, I had written some code that enabled an application to monitor its own CPU usage using kvm calls (in order to "trim back" certain areas if the load went too high). Interesting experiment, and it worked, too, for the most part! Some Linux-using friends asked if I could port the idea for them, so I grabbed some Linux sources and looked at how top obtained its CPU statistics and how it calculated the percentages. I can't recall the exact formula now, but it definitely differs. The mechanism for obtaining the info is also nowhere near as clean as it is in FreeBSD. -- Conrad Sabatier Rules for Academic Deans: (1) HIDE!!!! 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Fandal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 17: 6:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A055937B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f9H06cb46838 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:06:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma046800; Wed, 17 Oct 01 10:06:23 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H06M560861 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:06:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:06:22 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-X-Sender: To: Subject: I've got those device scanning blues... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Morning All, I've been getting whacked by the order in which FreeBSD 4.2/4.3 scans PCI slots. I've got a Dell 6300 running 4.2-STABLE (18/01/01 build) that now has just over 500 Gb of disk attached from an IBM ESS F20 (Shark). The Shark is attached via an Adaptec 2944. The thing that has been nailing me is that FreeBSD scans PCI slots before embedded PCI interfaces. This means that everytime I add another disk via the shark, or if I add another PCI scsi card the disks get allocated *before* the internal devices. When we first set this thing up "da0" was the first internal drive and became the boot disk. As soon as I added Shark disks via the 2944, they became da0, etc, and the original boot disk became da4 . After a lot of fiddling and a couple of 6 hour overtime shifts moving data around, I've finally just removed all internal disk and only have Shark disk attached. It does mean that if I want to add Shark disk to any of our other FreeBSD boxes I either have to move them completely to the Shark or fiddle around a lot to make the damn things boot. Is there a knob I can twiddle to change the scan order? (Yes I know you can change the scan order the bios uses, but that makes no difference to how FreeBSD scans the busses.) Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 17: 7:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov (gscamnlm03.wr.usgs.gov [130.118.4.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7888137B40E; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:07:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Annelise Anderson Cc: Christopher Smith , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: "Robert L Sowders" Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:07:20 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on gscamnlm03/SERVER/USGS/DOI(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 10/16/2001 05:07:23 PM, Serialize complete at 10/16/2001 05:07:23 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0000AD2888256AE8_=" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0000AD2888256AE8_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I not sure I'm following your thoughts here, I thought the /etc/defaults/rc.conf should never be modified by the user and /etc/rc.conf is not touched by mergemaster so I don't really see how it applies here. Annelise Anderson Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG 10/16/2001 04:43 PM To: Christopher Smith cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Christopher Smith wrote: > [chomp] > > > P'raps even merge both ideas into one - a "preprocessor" that does the file > comparisons to find files modified since install that then passes those > files in an exclusion list... > The problem with ignoring modified files is that you modify (for example) /etc/group when you add a user, but sometimes there's a new "system" group that needs to be added (for example, the network group was added a few years ago). Changes get made to /etc/defaults/rc.conf that require changes to /etc/rc.conf; also the /etc/.ssh stuff. So leaving modified files alone is not a complete solution. 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I not sure I'm following your thoughts here, I thought the /etc/defaults/rc.conf should never be modified by the user and /etc/rc.conf is not touched by mergemaster so I don't really see how it applies here.



Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG

10/16/2001 04:43 PM

       
        To:        Christopher Smith <drsmithy@mailbox.uq.edu.au>
        cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
        Subject:        Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way?


On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Christopher Smith wrote:

> [chomp]
>

>
> P'raps even merge both ideas into one - a "preprocessor" that does the file
> comparisons to find files modified since install that then passes those
> files in an exclusion list...
>
The problem with ignoring modified files is that you modify (for example)
/etc/group when you add a user, but sometimes there's a new "system"
group that needs to be added (for example, the network group was added
a few years ago).  Changes get made to /etc/defaults/rc.conf that require
changes to /etc/rc.conf; also the /etc/.ssh stuff. So leaving modified
files alone is not a complete solution.

                Annelise

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--=_alternative 0000AD2888256AE8_=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 17:24:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E09737B40A for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 15teVm-000GpH-00; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:24:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Carl Makin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Carl Makin wrote: > embedded PCI interfaces. This means that everytime I add another disk via > the shark, or if I add another PCI scsi card the disks get allocated You probably want to wire your disk down. You will need to compile this into your kernel though, but you can do pre-configure a lot of disks. That way you can, for example say that da8 is the disk at SCSI id 4 on bus 2, always. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 17:58:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1F637B405; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C39BCED; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA26640; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:58:18 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9H0vEV36730; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:57:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Daniel Brown Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Oct 2001 17:57:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel Brown writes: > Personally, I was thinking of hacking this feature into my own copies of > mergemaster some time in the medium future. =) I was thinking it would be good to somehow save copies of all installed config files (not just MD5s) and make it convenient to compare changes in the installed config files instead of comparing an installed file with my custom file. An extreme-case demo of the benefit of this is where I've changed none of the information in a file, but just completely re-organized it and added comments, when the file didn't change at all in the OS upgrade. I'd like to see that the file didn't change, even though it looks nothing like mine. (This wouldn't replace any feature of mergemaster, just make it easier to do the hand-editing part.) P.S. My upgrade from 4.3-S to 4.4-R was a binary upgrade from CD and it didn't even offer to run mergemaster or suggest a good time to do it. It seemed to just copy my old files over a new /etc (or something). I probably have some out-of-date config files as a result. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 18: 5:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C089137B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9H1Gtr05424; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200110170116.f9H1Gtr05424@mass.dis.org> To: Carl Makin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, msmith@mass.dis.org Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: Message from Carl Makin of "Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:06:22 +1000." Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:16:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is there a knob I can twiddle to change the scan order? (Yes I know you > can change the scan order the bios uses, but that makes no difference to > how FreeBSD scans the busses.) Not trivially, no. FreeBSD scans the bus in ascending order, and has no way of knowing that an adapter is "onboard" (this is a machine-specific piece of information that we can't get at). Why don't you just wire down your boot device? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 18:14:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF3E37B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f9H1ECs52083; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:14:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma052075; Wed, 17 Oct 01 11:13:47 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H1DkU61123; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:13:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:13:46 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-X-Sender: To: Tom Cc: Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Tom, On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Tom wrote: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Carl Makin wrote: > > embedded PCI interfaces. This means that everytime I add another disk via > > the shark, or if I add another PCI scsi card the disks get allocated > You probably want to wire your disk down. You will need to compile this > into your kernel though, but you can do pre-configure a lot of disks. Yes, I looked at that. Annoying to implement and fails if you add or remove a card. It's ok if the box is static though. It would be better if you could wire down adaptor numbers to pci slots as well. I've just had another look at the Dell, and it's allocating pci busses 0 and 1 to the slots, and 2 to the embedded interfaces. Makes it difficult to be consistant when it does that. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 18:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C1037B40C; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f9H1NLW52888; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:23:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma052818; Wed, 17 Oct 01 11:22:58 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H1Mv061141; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:22:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:22:57 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-X-Sender: To: Mike Smith Cc: , Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: <200110170116.f9H1Gtr05424@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Mike, On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > Is there a knob I can twiddle to change the scan order? (Yes I know you > Not trivially, no. FreeBSD scans the bus in ascending order, > Why don't you just wire down your boot device? I couldn't see a method of wiring the adaptor/scbusN numbering to PCI slot so that I could be certain I was wiring down the correct device on the correct adaptor. I agree though, that in this case wiring down the device to the scbus would have worked since I'm probably not going to be adding more scsi cards. Adding to the wishlist :), It would make life easier if we could tell the kernel when to scan high to low rather than always low to high. Thanks! Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 18:28:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E3A37B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9H1dxr05654; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200110170139.f9H1dxr05654@mass.dis.org> To: Carl Makin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: Message from Carl Makin of "Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:22:57 +1000." Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:39:59 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Adding to the wishlist :), It would make life easier if we could tell the > kernel when to scan high to low rather than always low to high. I think you'll find that the BIOS doesn't scan high-to-low, it scans builtin and then add-in. Wiring unit numbers to bus/slot/function would be doable, but it's not trivial. 8( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 18:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0B837B401; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f9H1lYg55040; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:47:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) Received: from newton.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.18) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.1) id xma055021; Wed, 17 Oct 01 11:47:03 +1000 Received: from localhost (carl@localhost) by newton.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H1l2D61388; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:47:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from carl@xena.ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: newton.aipo.gov.au: carl owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:47:02 +1000 (EST) From: Carl Makin X-X-Sender: To: Mike Smith Cc: Subject: Re: I've got those device scanning blues... In-Reply-To: <200110170139.f9H1dxr05654@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > I think you'll find that the BIOS doesn't scan high-to-low, it scans > builtin and then add-in. The BIOSes used in the Dells has a toggle where you can tell it to scan in various orders. It does, by default though scan "embedded -> L -> H". Carl. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 20:37:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E22B137B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24686 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2001 13:37:29 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.21 16-Jun-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:37:29 +1000 From: Greg Black To: David Marker Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SIGSEGV not blocked in gdm [was Re: setenv() cores with NULL value] References: <20011016164610.95419.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <20011016164610.95419.qmail@web14702.mail.yahoo.com> of Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:46:10 MST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Marker wrote: | Before reading that I was not aware you could block | a SIGSEGV. But gdm doesn't even appear to block that | signal. (grep for sigation, then SIGSEGV, didn't find | anything to suggest it blocks SIGSEGV.) This is not by any means a reliable method of finding out if a signal is blocked: sigaction (not sigation) is not the only interface for setting signal handlers, etc; people often just use the integer values rather than the special constants; other factors might come into play. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 20:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.24.22.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 902EB37B405 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25210 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2001 13:40:13 +1000 Message-ID: X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.21 16-Jun-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:40:13 +1000 From: Greg Black To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Zero Sum , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> In-reply-to: <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> of Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:42:00 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nate Williams wrote: | > > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); | > > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); | > > | > > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a | > > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the | > > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. | > | > I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that | > time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null | > pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. | | As others have pointed out, this was never the case. | | Here's a great example of why they aren't the same thing. | | printf("%s", ""); | printf("%s", NULL); | | The first will work, the second will dump core. The second has never | worked, and should never work. Well, it has often "worked"; but it has always been wrong. The world would have been better off if people had not fudged things in past operating systems to make this incorrect code appear to work. And I think that all those printf() library functions that print "(null)" instead of allowing a core dump are doing the wrong thing too. It's wrong, so don't do it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 20:41:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.ig.com.br (smtp-2.ig.com.br [200.226.132.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 930A437B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7202 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2001 03:15:29 -0000 Received: from adsl-fnsbnu-067-a.brt.telesc.net.br (HELO conrado) (@200.193.25.67) by smtp-2.ig.com.br with SMTP; 17 Oct 2001 03:15:29 -0000 From: "Conrado Vardanega" To: Subject: How does FreeBSD performs in server tasks? [off-topic] Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 01:15:39 -0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there. Please excuse me for this off-topic post. This was posted in freebsd-hardware with very low response and I personally think this could be of interest of most of you. I would like to hear from Athlon-based server owners/admins how does it performs with server tasks. My aim is to find out how good is a Pentium III chip for a server instead a low-cost, high-performance Athlon CPU. I would consider, for evaluation purposes, a (FreeBSD) system running Apache/PHP/mod_ssl and MySQL mainly, because they're pretty sensitive to user-response. So, which are the pros and cons of having a Intel based server or a AMD based server? "Add-in" topic: how DDR-memory instead SDRAM affects server performance? Once again, sorry for the off-topic and thank you. --- Conrado Vardanega cvarda@ig.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 20:43:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (zola.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD67A37B408 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5443873 invoked by uid 0); 17 Oct 2001 03:43:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.187]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Oct 2001 03:43:22 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9H0hVc04459; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:43:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200110170043.f9H0hVc04459@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? In-Reply-To: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:43:31 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > Whats the best way about going to do a mergemaster without having to read > through every single change, modification, etc. Is there some kind of script > that will automatically merge the changes into the existing files without > much user intervention? (e.g. unattended?) use these both sequences, only manually required changes will be prompted. mergemaster -svia mergemaster -vir # or -svir see the manual pages for details or search the -freebsd mailing lists. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 20:56:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D3337B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24647; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:52:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:52:17 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Greg Black Cc: Nate Williams , Zero Sum , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011016205217.D24482@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from gjb@gbch.net on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:40:13PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:40:13PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > And I think that all those printf() library functions that print > "(null)" instead of allowing a core dump are doing the wrong > thing too. Amen, brother. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 21:19:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54837B407 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2iniul9.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.122.169]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09562; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 700C71336B; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Harding To: dehartog@rootsr.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> (message from Hans de Hartog on Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:24:25 +0200) Subject: Re: Howto install apache+mod_ssl+mod_php4 ? References: <3BCCB399.9060106@chello.nl> Message-Id: <20011017041907.700C71336B@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Step up to installing from source - you can choose what components you want and you don't get into dependency hell. You can even build your own packages if you like, it's not magic... - mIKE h. Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:24:25 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Reply-To: dehartog@rootsr.com Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Patrick O'Reilly wrote: > Hi! > > I picked up a funny with this combination which might be the same problem > you are having. > > When mod_ssl is installed it add its LoadModule directive inside a > conditional block in httpd.conf so that you can do and 'apachectl start' or > 'apachectl startssl' to start with or without SSL support. That's fine. > > The problem is that after that the PHP4 installation tries to add its > LoadModule directive after the last one found in the httpd.conf file, and so > the PHP4 module will only load conditionally (IF you do an 'apachectl > startssl'). What's even worse is that when you do an 'apachectl restart' > (which is what the 'make install' for apache and PHP4 attempt to do) the > LoadModule for PHP4 is never loaded. > > So, in summary, edit your /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf file as follows: > You will find something like this: > ---------------------------------------- > > LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > > ---------------------------------------- > Change it like so: > ---------------------------------------- > > LoadModule ssl_module libexec/apache/libssl.so > > LoadModule php4_module libexec/apache/libphp4.so > ---------------------------------------- > > And, similarly: > ---------------------------------------- > > AddModule mod_ssl.c > AddModule mod_php4.c > > ---------------------------------------- > should be: > ---------------------------------------- > > AddModule mod_ssl.c > > AddModule mod_php4.c > ---------------------------------------- > > Hope this is what you need. > > Patrick. > Sounds reasonable and I made that change. However, installing mod_php4 also installs the vanilla apache over the already existing apache+mod_ssl (beause the built-in dependency on apache-1.3.20) thereby not only modifying/destroying hhtpd.conf but lots of other files (including httpd itself). Starting apache then gives: Syntax error on line 208 of /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf: API module structure `define_module' in file /usr/local/libexec/apache/mod_define.so is garbled - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO? That's probably because all the modules that come with apache+mod_ssl are overwritten by the versions from the vanilla apache. I guess there must be somebody out there that has apache + ssl + php4 working on FreeBSD 4.4???? And what was the exact sequence of installations of which versions? And was that straight from pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4.4-release or did you build from the ports directory (and with what additional flags/tricks)??? Thanks for your efforts, Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 21:48:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB9937B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f9H4mEW94727; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:48:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200110170448.f9H4mEW94727@apollo.backplane.com> To: Nate Williams Cc: Dimitry Andric , Nate Williams , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re[2]: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> <441356059.20011016201751@xs4all.nl> <15308.31250.176938.430969@nomad.yogotech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> case 's': :> if ((cp = GETARG(char *)) == NULL) :> cp = "(null)"; :> :> Almost any printf I've ever seen does the same. : :Well, I'll be. :( : :> NW> The second has never worked, and should never work. :> :> That's debatable. In the interest of consistency, it should surely :> coredump, but for the sake of compatibility, it shouldn't. You don't :> want to know how many times I see (null) strings in program messages, :> log files, etc. :) : :Thanks for the clarification! : :Nate It depends how portable you want to be. When I wrote Diablo I had bunches of logging printf's that would pass NULL string pointers. It worked fine on FreeBSD and a couple of other platforms, and not so fine on some (I forget which ones). So for portability I had to adjust the code to ensure that a NULL pointer would never be passed as a string. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 21:57:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shalimar.net.au (shalimar.net.au [198.142.161.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F82737B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (count@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shalimar.net.au (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id f9H4ujA20210; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:56:45 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from count@shalimar.net.au) Message-Id: <200110170456.f9H4ujA20210@shalimar.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Zero Sum Organization: Tobacco Chewers and Body Painters Association. To: Greg Black Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:56:44 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> In-Reply-To: X-originating-IP: Shalimar Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 16 October 2001 22:49, Greg Black wrote: > Zero Sum wrote: > > | On Tuesday 16 October 2001 18:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > | > | > > > | > > setenv("TEST1", "", 1); > | > > setenv("TEST2", NULL, 1); > | > > | > A huge difference. In the first case, the second argument is a > | > pointer aimed at a string which contains the bytes, '\0'. In the > | > second case, we have a null pointer. Null pointers point at nothing. > | > | I had that out with a compiler manufacturer long, long ago. At that > | time it was a requirement for a 'correct' C compiler to regard a null > | pointer and a pointer to a null string as sematically equivalent. > | > | Has this changed without me noticing? > > This is an absurd claim -- under K&R C and ISO C there is no > equivalence between these two things. > It might be an absurd claim, but if I recall aright, it is a factual one. Let me explain.... We are going back to arounf 1982 here. That's a long time ago and my memory may not be clear. I can point you to documents that no longer exist and a few hints I have found on the web. At that time I worked for a small company devloping an AI language. A language designed for writing AI shells. We didn't have a lot of money and equipment was not powerfull. We used NCR Towers, AT&T 3B series and an AT9800. We used a type of framing technique, but the slots in a frame were dynamic. A slot could be either full, empty or non-existent. Nonexistent having the same value as empty. This was a pretty good product for its time and eventually flogged it to Japan. But because of the efficiency constraints, and the early days, some of the code may not have been the best. We were constrained. We ported that product to many systems without a problem. Yet it consistently assumed that the value returned by the pointer value 0 would be 0. One particular compiler returned something like "^AT". As far as I am concerned that was a flaw both then and now. That was the manufacturer I was talking about. At that time there was usually a "C" page in the man system and on that page it noted that a pointer to a null string and a null pointer were semantically equivalent. I saw this in both on and off-line copies of manuals. Searching for information this to back me up, THe only thing I could find was a perl manual page which mentions the expectation in C of equality between a pointer of value 0 and a pointer to an empty string is not true in perl. [PDF] 162.105.203.94/download/books/PerlPG.pdf PERL(1) Perl Programmers ... to the null string ("") or 0 ... not) is semantically equivalent to a ... as in C. That is ... not the empty string and matches ... So, you see, I am not the only one with that expectation. Now, I am not going to make *any* claim. I'm a dodering old fart with a decaying memory. But what I have detailed above is strong in my memory. My apologies for mentioning it in the first place. -- Zero Sum Vescere bracis meis But remember, please, the Law by which we live, We are not built to comprehend a lie. We can neither live nor pity, nor forgive, If you make a slip in handling us you die! --The Secret of the Machines-- Rudyard Kipling To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 22:11:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346F437B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8k.babbleon.org ([66.57.85.154]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:17:41 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian T.Schellenberger To: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" , Nate Williams Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:17:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> <5190000.1003250950@hilfy.ece.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5190000.1003250950@hilfy.ece.cmu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101700173701.00543@i8k.babbleon.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 16 October 2001 12:49, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: > On Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:42:00 -0600, Nate Williams > wrote: > +----- > > | printf("%s", ""); > | printf("%s", NULL); > | > | The first will work, the second will dump core. The second has never > | worked, and should never work. > > +--->8 > > FWIW, Xenix's printf() would print "(null)" in the second case. (Not that > this should be an argument for it being acceptable.) . . . and on the VAX, there was a system option (CPU bit) for whether reading from the zero page gave a zero or a violation . . . but this is again just history . . . aand what is this discussion doing in stable anyway? -- Brian T. Schellenberger . . . . . . . bts@wnt.sas.com (work) Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . bts@babbleon.org (personal) http://www.babbleon.org -------> Free Dmitry Sklyarov! (let him go home) <----------- http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 22:17:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.cluster.oleane.net (smtp2.cluster.oleane.net [195.25.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6854F37B409; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (d96df47b.fsp.oleane.fr [217.109.244.123]) by smtp2.cluster.oleane.net with ESMTP id f9H5H3l41176; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:17:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by diabolic-cow.chatgris.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 87CA47AA; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:17:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:17:24 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi_Guyomarch?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 0.00% CPU for all processes Message-ID: <20011017071724.A96520@diabolic-cow.chatgris.net> References: <174272.1003179053903.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <174272.1003179053903.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com>; from matt-sykes@excite.com on Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 01:50:51PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 01:50:51PM -0700, Matt Sykes wrote: ... > One thing which surprises me, though --- all other processes are zero. > Is this normal? This is my first time seeing FreeBSD run. I have an > identical box here running linux (and each box runs a minimum of > services), where at least top will show nonzero CPU percentage in top, > usually around 0.5%. Does linux have more fine-grained timing, or is > it cheating, or does the margin of error render this test essentially > meaningless anyway? Linux' top parse ascii strings from /proc All *BSD tops use binary bits from sysctl() and thus are vastly faster than Linux. With Linux on a slow sparc I've see top use between 5 and 10% of the cpu used only for top... -- Rémi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 22:34:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB3237B40E for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA87292; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:33:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22928; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:33:49 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200110170533.PAA22928@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Zero Sum Cc: Greg Black , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:56:44 +1000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:33:49 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > One particular compiler returned something like "^AT". As far as I > am concerned that was a flaw both then and now. That was the > manufacturer I was talking about. This was probably the AT&T 3B series. There was famous code in some of the AT&T Unix utilities (troff from memory) that did if (strcmp(ptr, "^AT") == 0) { ..... } because whoever wrote the program had no idea about C. Dereferencing NULL pointers has been illegal C since the day C was invented. See if you can dig up K&R 1st edition (I've lost mine over the years...) That it would work at all on some systems is at best an artfact of the implementation, at worst a bug. On the 3B, they couldn't change what *0 returned if they wanted to (because page 0 contained IRQ vectors or some such). When Sun was porting Unix to the original Sun 1, they made the wise decision that page 0 (& hence NULL pointers) would raise SIGSEGV. They had to expend a collossal effort to remove all the NULL-pointer derefs from AT&T and Berkeley code in order to ship SunOs. They were still fixing NULL-pointer bugs in thing s like troff & nroff as late as SunOs 3.4. All of which is way OT for -stable..... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 23: 8:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F45637B401 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9H68OP21564 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:08:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h185n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.185]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA14062 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:08:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 74170 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Oct 2001 06:08:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:08:22 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011017080821.A71883@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200110160353.f9G3rO728525@harmony.village.org> <20011016013834.E293@blossom.cjclark.org> <200110161002.f9GA2CA08544@shalimar.net.au> <15308.25432.608079.646993@nomad.yogotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 01:40:13PM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > And I think that all those printf() library functions that print > "(null)" instead of allowing a core dump are doing the wrong > thing too. It's wrong, so don't do it. According to the C standard printing "(null)" isn't *wrong* in this situation. Dereferencing a null pointer invokes undefined behaviour which means that as far as the standard is concerned the compiler/library may do whatever it wants. This includes but is not limited to: 1) Core dumping. 2) Printing "(null)". 3) Reformatting your hard drive. 4) Sending embarrasing love letters by email to your boss. 5) Making demons fly out of your nose. 6) All of the above at the same time. Of these 1) and 2) are by far the most common responses but all the others are (implicitly) allowed by the C standard. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 23:12:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.128.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C75337B405 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/26Jan01-1134AM) id f9H6Bm5358607; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:11:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/30Jan01-0241PM) id f9H6BmE72747; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:11:48 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:2khbeYB8GKzRexMM8jP9RFS/eOrm4fzE@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.43.7]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id PAA02508; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:21:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200110170621.PAA02508@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Joe Kelsey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: psm0 out of sync In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:37:25 MST." <15308.28757.640334.764871@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> References: <15308.28757.640334.764871@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:21:47 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Eric P Liedtke writes: > > I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync > > when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and > > back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain > > sync without rebooting. I've tried killing and restarting > > moused but of course that didn't help cuz moused isn't out of > > sync the actual device is. Any help would be appreciated. > >Set bit 0x8000 in the psm device by modifying your loader.conf: > >psm_flags=0x8000 > >This will force a mouse reset when switching with the kvm box. Not quite "reset". It disables and then re-enable the mouse operation. >This should be installed as the default mode and not called a "hack" >since it is the most logical thing to do. Unfortunately, the maintainer >of psm.c has some sort of reservations about making this behavior the >default. My wireless mouse requires this setting with no intervening >switch box. I never see multiple instances of reset behavior, so I >don't know why this completely logical code path is relegated to the >euphemism of "hack" and not made default. This flag has remained an option in -STABLE, because it doesn't always work. It works in some cases, but there are cases it just doesn't. When it doesn't, it will produce a stream of disable/enable sequence repeatedly, and that's too bad. -CURRENT now has much better recovery code for the "out of sync" error. That will be merged to -STABLE in the next few weeks, after initial glitches are sorted out in -CURRENT. But, if you cannot wait, you can find the patch for -STABLE at: http://people.freebsd.org/~yokota/psm-out-of-sync-STABLE.diff Apply the patch to /sys/isa/psm.c and see how it performs in you system. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Oct 16 23:24:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate5.cinetic.de (mailgate5.cinetic.de [217.72.192.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC8437B403 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.0.189]) by mailgate5.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f9H6Obu14818 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:24:37 +0200 Received: from mg0006 by smtp.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.2.2.3 #20) id m15tk85-007qR7C; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:24 +0200 Message-ID: <001301c156d4$328161c0$e3110e8d@molgen.mpg.de> From: "Marcus Albrecht" To: Subject: creative audigy Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:23:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, is the new Creative Audigy soundchip already supported in stable? greetings Marcus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 0:35:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f223.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.223]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5837B408 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:35:33 -0700 Received: from 161.184.39.167 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:35:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [161.184.39.167] From: "Jeff C." To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:35:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2001 07:35:33.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E45F2E0:01C156DE] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe * _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 2:26:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wedgev.com (cm57-70.liwest.at [212.33.57.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D0F37B405 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cipher.home (cipher.home [10.0.0.2]) by wedgev.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9H9Pqc56838 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:25:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bernhard.valenti@gmx.net) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:25:52 +0200 From: Bernhard Valenti To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) ? Message-Id: <20011017112552.5349b0b8.bernhard.valenti@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd4.4) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD i386 X-Copyright: (C) 2001 Bernhard Valenti. All rights reserved. X-Notice: Duplication, redistribution prohibited without consent of the author. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, dscheck(#ad/0x20002): b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#ad/0x20002): b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#ad/0x20002): b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#ad/0x20002): b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) dscheck(#ad/0x20002): b_bcount 16 is not on a sector boundary (ssize 512) i found that in my daily security check mail and i'm not shure what it means or what to do about it. i guess its ad0s1 thats making trouble? this box is running for >1year now with the same configuration. it got updated to 4.4-stable Sept. 22 (from 4.3), but this is the first time i see this message. any ideas whats wrong? regards, bernhard some stuff that might be usefull: atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 ad0: 9770MB [19852/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 ad1: 24405MB [49585/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 ad2: 6197MB [12592/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33 ad3: 16603MB [33735/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33 /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1f on /home (ufs, NFS exported, local, with quotas, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1g on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad0s1e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 2:42:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from io.dreamscape.com (io.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06AD37B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mwmicro (uA2-p13.dreamscape.com [209.4.253.13]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3+blt/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA20606 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:38:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dennis Mathiasen" To: Subject: cable modem choices Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:43:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't been able to locate information on how these things actually work. Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about any authentication? Are the modems themselves all functionally the same? Most manufacturers don't say that they work with UNIX. Is the situation the same as with phone modems v. "win modems"? I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. Dennis Mathiasen dennislm@dreamscape.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 3:18:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mcclure.tinet.ie (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6900A37B408; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 03:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p438.as1.limerick1.eircom.net ([159.134.165.182] helo=dansat.data-plan.com) by mcclure.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 15tnm4-0006pI-00; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:18:09 +0100 Received: (from timbo@localhost) by dansat.data-plan.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9HAI1h04346; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:18:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from timbo) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:18:01 +0100 From: Tim Bunce To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: Daniel Brown , "Jonathan M. Slivko" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? Message-ID: <20011017111801.E1560@dansat.data-plan.com> References: <001301c15671$6b2effe0$252da818@sioux> <5.1.0.14.0.20011016140751.02852dc8@pop.schulte.org> <20011016220800.B55640@dansat.data-plan.com> <20011016152927.0cc816e3.djb@unixan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from swear@blarg.net on Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 05:57:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 05:57:14PM -0700, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Daniel Brown writes: > > > Personally, I was thinking of hacking this feature into my own copies of > > mergemaster some time in the medium future. =) > > I was thinking it would be good to somehow save copies of all installed > config files (not just MD5s) and make it convenient to compare changes > in the installed config files instead of comparing an installed file > with my custom file. This would allow a three-way diff/merge which would be far better. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 3:30: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B051037B409; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 03:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qnuno (unknown [217.129.231.117]) by pt-quorum.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 34EC7ECCB; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:25:45 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <007301c156f6$ccd74c90$0a00a8c0@qnuno> From: "Nuno Teixeira" To: Cc: Subject: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:30:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C156FF.2DAA4FB0" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C156FF.2DAA4FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to all, At home I'm tracking stable for some time and I'd never had serious = problem with upgrades. In my server I only use releases and I'm using 4.3R for now. I'd like to = know if any of you have made a major upgrade directly from 4.3R to 4.4R = in a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all process (buildworld, = buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) in multiuser = mode and via SSH. Please tell me if there is any problem of doing this direct upgrade or = should I have to do someting else. Thanks very much, Nuno Teixeira ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C156FF.2DAA4FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello to all,
 
At home I'm tracking stable for some = time and I'd=20 never had serious problem with upgrades.
 
In my server I only use releases and = I'm using 4.3R=20 for now. I'd like to know if any of you have made a major upgrade = directly=20 from 4.3R to 4.4R in a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all process = (buildworld,=20 buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) in multiuser = mode and=20 via SSH.
 
Please tell me if there is any problem = of doing=20 this direct upgrade or should I have to do someting else.
 
 
Thanks very much,
 
Nuno = Teixeira
------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C156FF.2DAA4FB0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 6:35:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CA337B40B for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 06:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.jwweeks.com ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011017133539.KURO15859.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.jwweeks.com>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 06:35:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:35:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks X-Sender: jim@veager.jwweeks.com To: Dennis Mathiasen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cable modem choices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This article is a pretty good starting point, it deals with @home service, but most configurations will be similar. Wouldn't hurt to check out FreeBSD.org for DHCP configuration. http://www.freebsddiary.org/athome.php -- Jim Weeks On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > I haven't been able to locate information on how these things actually work. > Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about any authentication? > > Are the modems themselves all functionally the same? Most manufacturers > don't say that they work with UNIX. Is the situation the same as with phone > modems v. "win modems"? > > I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. > > Dennis Mathiasen > dennislm@dreamscape.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 7:15:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axolotl.ic.gc.ca (axolotl.ic.gc.ca [198.103.246.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713F437B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (antonio@localhost) by axolotl.ic.gc.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9HEFGo39966; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:15:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from antonio@axolotl.ic.gc.ca) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Antonio Bemfica To: Dennis Mathiasen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cable modem choices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Also, some providers are using PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet), that takes care of the authentication. PPP will handle the IP negociation and assignment - and it does it very well too. If this turns out to be your case, avoid fiddling with the Linux client - even if they supply one (often anything except Windows is "unsupported"), it is unlikely to work. A line or two on your /etc/rc.conf and a new entry on /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (good example in /usr/share/examples/ppp) is all you need. A. On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Jim Weeks wrote: > This article is a pretty good starting point, it deals with @home service, > but most configurations will be similar. Wouldn't hurt to check out > FreeBSD.org for DHCP configuration. > > http://www.freebsddiary.org/athome.php > > -- > Jim Weeks > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > > > > I haven't been able to locate information on how these things actually work. > > Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about any authentication? > > > > Are the modems themselves all functionally the same? Most manufacturers > > don't say that they work with UNIX. Is the situation the same as with phone > > modems v. "win modems"? > > > > I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. > > > > Dennis Mathiasen > > dennislm@dreamscape.com > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 7:41:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.wm.net (spencer.wm.net [194.18.224.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB91C37B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com [164.9.18.141]) by relay1.wm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA20697 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:40:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:38:04 +0200 Received: by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4P6BFP2Z>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:38:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johansson Jan To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Install boggle (4.4) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:40:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trying to install 4.4 on a Compaq Deskpro 4000 (P166) with a 40 gig disk as pri. master, and a ATAPI CD as pri. slave. Everything goes well until "Writing Partition Information", when i get a lot of ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting then the installer returns WARNING! Unable to swap to /dev/ad0s1b: Device not configured This may cause the instralltion to fail at some point if you don't have a lot of memory (i press enter) Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a Command returned status 1 (enter) Couldnt make filesystems properly. Aborting. I have searched the handbook, faq, mailinglists, and i cant seem to find any light at the end of this tunnel.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 7:48:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nettoll.com (matrix.nettoll.net [212.155.143.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BC837B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.nettoll.com; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:47:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3BCD99F1.3080306@nettoll.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:47:13 +0200 From: Alexandru Dincov Organization: Enition User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011004 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 7:52:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mikea.ath.cx (okc-65-30-192-11.mmcable.com [65.30.192.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F13C37B409 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 07:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mikea@localhost) by mikea.ath.cx (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f9HEqT679651; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:52:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mikea) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:52:29 -0500 From: mikea To: Johansson Jan Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Install boggle (4.4) Message-ID: <20011017095229.A79620@mikea.ath.cx> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jajoa@wmdata.com on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:40:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:40:56PM +0200, Johansson Jan wrote: > Trying to install 4.4 on a Compaq Deskpro 4000 (P166) with a 40 gig disk as pri. master, and a ATAPI CD as pri. slave. Everything goes well until "Writing Partition Information", when i get a lot of > > ad0: WRITE command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting > > then the installer returns > > WARNING! Unable to swap to /dev/ad0s1b: Device not configured > This may cause the instralltion to fail at some point > if you don't have a lot of memory > > (i press enter) > > Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a > Command returned status 1 > > (enter) > > Couldnt make filesystems properly. Aborting. > > I have searched the handbook, faq, mailinglists, and i cant seem to find any light at the end of this tunnel.. I've seen this a few times; it appears to be due to a glitch that lets you get into the install proper before the disk labels are written and newfs runs. I had to do a "w" in the partition and label steps to force the partitions to be made and the filesystems to be created. -- Mike Andrews mikea@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin since 1964 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 8: 3:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.wm.net (spencer.wm.net [194.18.224.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE33037B40E for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com [164.9.18.141]) by relay1.wm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA25511; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:02:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:59:20 +0200 Received: by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4P6BFPVM>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:59:19 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johansson Jan To: "'mikea'" Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Install boggle (4.4) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:02:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I've seen this a few times; it appears to be due to a glitch that >lets you get into the install proper before the disk labels are >written and newfs runs. > >I had to do a "w" in the partition and label steps to force the >partitions to be made and the filesystems to be created. No go, when pressing w in the Partition editor (after acknowleding the "..should only be done..." it gives the "Writing partition information to drive ad0" and it's back to square one :-/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 8: 3:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from clink.schulte.org (clink.schulte.org [209.134.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4142C37B409; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schulte-laptop.schulte.org (nb-65.netbriefings.com [209.134.134.65]) by clink.schulte.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763F1243FD; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:02:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011017093645.03ca8e30@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:01:18 -0500 To: "Nuno Teixeira" , From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? Cc: In-Reply-To: <007301c156f6$ccd74c90$0a00a8c0@qnuno> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:30 AM 10/17/2001 +0100, Nuno Teixeira wrote: >In my server I only use releases and I'm using 4.3R for now. I'd like to >know if any of you have made a major upgrade directly from 4.3R to 4.4R in >a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all process (buildworld, buildkernel, >installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) in multiuser mode and via SSH. The buildworld and buildkernel are, AFAIK, totally safe in multiuser mode. They don't touch the installed system in any way. It's the actual overwriting of system libs and bins which can cause problems. There are some steps you can take to minimize the likelihood of issues when doing an multiuser install. Offhand: Before you start, make sure kern.securelevel is set to a negative number: # sysctl -a | grep -i secu kern.securelevel: -1 You don't want to get half way through the install and have some bits fail because of file ACLs like schg. Now, log all users off. Kill all their processes. Kill off all processes you possibly can (all services like web/ftp/pop/smtp/dns/etc, inetd, cron, syslog, and even the listening sshd (your connection will not be lost as long as you don't kill the process which your session is using)) before doing the actual installworld and installkernel. Check to make sure your network card will be supported by your new kernel, with the config unchanged. Read /usr/src/UPDATING Read /usr/src/UPDATING again. Cross your fingers. :p I've upgraded boxes remotely like this many times with no problems. You should have a backup plan in case it fails. Telephone call to the NOC your box is in, ability to drive to the location if possible, or whatever is within reason. Do a practice multiuser install with test hardware that closely or exactly matches the config of your remote box to identify any possible issues beforehand. >Thanks very much, > >Nuno Teixeira To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 8:48:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fizzbang.musinghalfwit.org (cs6669197-172.austin.rr.com [66.69.197.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0C937B405 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 1001) by fizzbang.musinghalfwit.org with local; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:17:48 -0500 References: <15308.28757.640334.764871@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <200110170621.PAA02508@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <200110170621.PAA02508@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> From: "Eric P Liedtke" To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: psm0 out of sync Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:17:48 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kazutaka YOKOTA writes: > > >Eric P Liedtke writes: > > > I am currently having a problem with my mice losing sync > > > when using a belkin KVM switch. Any time I switch over and > > > back the mouse loses sync. Is there any way I can regain > > > sync without rebooting. I've tried killing and restarting > > > moused but of course that didn't help cuz moused isn't out of > > > sync the actual device is. Any help would be appreciated. > > > >Set bit 0x8000 in the psm device by modifying your loader.conf: > > > >psm_flags=0x8000 > > > >This will force a mouse reset when switching with the kvm box. > > Not quite "reset". It disables and then re-enable the mouse operation. > > >This should be installed as the default mode and not called a "hack" > >since it is the most logical thing to do. Unfortunately, the maintainer > >of psm.c has some sort of reservations about making this behavior the > >default. My wireless mouse requires this setting with no intervening > >switch box. I never see multiple instances of reset behavior, so I > >don't know why this completely logical code path is relegated to the > >euphemism of "hack" and not made default. > > This flag has remained an option in -STABLE, because it doesn't always > work. It works in some cases, but there are cases it just doesn't. > When it doesn't, it will produce a stream of disable/enable sequence > repeatedly, and that's too bad. > > -CURRENT now has much better recovery code for the "out of sync" > error. That will be merged to -STABLE in the next few weeks, after > initial glitches are sorted out in -CURRENT. > > But, if you cannot wait, you can find the patch for -STABLE at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yokota/psm-out-of-sync-STABLE.diff > > Apply the patch to /sys/isa/psm.c and see how it performs > in you system. > > Kazu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I am pleased to report that this patch works like a champ. I didn't need to set any flags on my psm device. I lost sync , hit the 20 bad byte count and the mouse was reset and began working correctly. Thanks for the patch Kazu. Eric Liedtke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 8:59: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387B337B403; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9HFwhk18218; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200110171558.f9HFwhk18218@ptavv.es.net> To: Christopher Schulte Cc: "Nuno Teixeira" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:01:18 CDT." <5.1.0.14.0.20011017093645.03ca8e30@pop.schulte.org> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:58:43 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:01:18 -0500 > From: Christopher Schulte > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > At 11:30 AM 10/17/2001 +0100, Nuno Teixeira wrote: > >In my server I only use releases and I'm using 4.3R for now. I'd like to > >know if any of you have made a major upgrade directly from 4.3R to 4.4R in > >a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all process (buildworld, buildkernel, > >installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) in multiuser mode and via SSH. > > The buildworld and buildkernel are, AFAIK, totally safe in multiuser > mode. They don't touch the installed system in any way. It's the actual > overwriting of system libs and bins which can cause problems. There are > some steps you can take to minimize the likelihood of issues when doing an > multiuser install. installkernel and kernel are also totally safe in multiuser mode. The only issue is that you want to do installworld fairly quickly afterwards as the new kernel might not get into multiuser mode cleanly in the event of an unplanned reboot. (Kernel is simply a buildkernel followed by an installkernel.) As you will not be re-booting the system with the new kernel before installing, you should check your kernel config against LINT very carefully! If you kernel is broken in this operation, you lose big time! I have done this several times and only shot myself once. :-) Even once is very painful, though. Be very, very careful and then check everything again. You can't back up if you did something wrong. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 9: 2: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pt-quorum.com (pt-quorum.com [209.10.167.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D991A37B408; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qnuno (unknown [217.129.231.117]) by pt-quorum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CCEEC47; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:57:11 +0100 (WEST) Message-ID: <002501c15725$1ea8a5e0$0a00a8c0@qnuno> From: "Nuno Teixeira" To: , "Diego Rodrigo Neufert" Cc: References: <007301c156f6$ccd74c90$0a00a8c0@qnuno> Subject: Re: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - SUCCESS ! Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:32:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C15718.89213110" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C15718.89213110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to all, SUCCESS: the upgrade has happened without any problem. Thanks to all and specialy to FreeBSD team for the great work, Nuno Teixeira ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nuno Teixeira=20 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? Hello to all, At home I'm tracking stable for some time and I'd never had serious = problem with upgrades. In my server I only use releases and I'm using 4.3R for now. I'd like = to know if any of you have made a major upgrade directly from 4.3R to = 4.4R in a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all process (buildworld, = buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) in multiuser = mode and via SSH. Please tell me if there is any problem of doing this direct upgrade or = should I have to do someting else. Thanks very much, Nuno Teixeira ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C15718.89213110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello to all,
 
SUCCESS: the upgrade has happened = without any=20 problem.
 
Thanks to all and specialy to FreeBSD = team for=20 the great work,
 
Nuno Teixeira
 
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From:=20 Nuno Teixeira =
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, = 2001 11:30=20 AM
Subject: Major upgrade: 4.3R = -> 4.4R -=20 Any problem?

Hello to all,
 
At home I'm tracking stable for some = time and I'd=20 never had serious problem with upgrades.
 
In my server I only use releases and = I'm using=20 4.3R for now. I'd like to know if any of you have made a major = upgrade=20 directly from 4.3R to 4.4R in a multiuser enviorment, i.e., do all = process=20 (buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld and mergemaster) = in=20 multiuser mode and via SSH.
 
Please tell me if there is any = problem of doing=20 this direct upgrade or should I have to do someting else.
 
 
Thanks very much,
 
Nuno=20 Teixeira
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C15718.89213110-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 10:54:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F9237B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26689; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:53:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:53:42 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Gregory Bond Cc: Zero Sum , Greg Black , cjclark@alum.mit.edu, "Crist J. Clark" , Heath Nielson , Warner Losh , David Marker , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setenv() cores with NULL value [was Re: Gdm proplem on 4.4] Message-ID: <20011017105342.A26621@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200110170533.PAA22928@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110170533.PAA22928@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:33:49PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 03:33:49PM +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: > Dereferencing NULL pointers has been illegal C since the day C was > invented. See if you can dig up K&R 1st edition (I've lost mine over > the years...) So, I'm more of a packrat than you. Quoting from K&R first edition (the white book [which in my case is tending toward yellow...]) chapter 5 "Pointers and Arrays" we get A pointer is a variable that contains the address of another variable. ... C guarantees that no pointer that validly points to data will contain zero ... We write NULL instead of zero, however, to indicate more clearly that this is a special value for a pointer. Can we be done with this now? Or move to chat? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 11: 2:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br (apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br [143.106.80.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0968B37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by apolo.ccuec.unicamp.br (Postfix, from userid 1089) id 459431F2151; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:02:09 -0200 (BRST) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:02:09 -0200 From: Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ISP4400 Message-ID: <20011017160209.A22020@ccuec.unicamp.br> Reply-To: guina@ccuec.unicamp.br Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Universidade Estadual de Campinas ( UNICAMP ) X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've an Intel 4400 platform with 4 xeon processors, 4GB of RAM and Adaptec AIC7899 Ultra160 SCSI. I'm running FreeBSD-4.4 STABLE. The I/O system freeze under havy load Oct 17 13:08:15 dac01 postfix/lmtp[31595]: 618EEEF92A: to=, relay=/var/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/imap/socket/lmtp], delay=7, status=defer red (host /var/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/imap/socket/lmtp] said: 451 4.3.0 System I/ O error) Oct 17 13:23:50 dac01 postfix/pickup[22366]: fatal: watchdog timeout Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Aguinaldo -- Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato mailto:guina@ccuec.unicamp.br Centro de Computacao HP:http://www.ccuec.unicamp.br/~guina Universidade Estadual de Campinas Campinas - SP - Brasil To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 11:30:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA6C37B40B; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA42405; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:28:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Robert L Sowders Cc: Christopher Smith , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mergemaster -- whats the best way? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Robert L Sowders wrote: > I not sure I'm following your thoughts here, I thought the > /etc/defaults/rc.conf should never be modified by the user and > /etc/rc.conf is not touched by mergemaster so I don't really see how it > applies here. > You should install the new /etc/defaults/rc.conf from /usr/src/etc when you do the merge, whether by hand or via mergemaster. It may be necessary for you to make some changes to /etc/rc.conf as a result of those changes. But I agree that this is one of the installations that could be automatic. Annelise -- Annelise Anderson Author of: FreeBSD: An Open-Source Operating System for Your PC Available from: mall.daemonnews.org and amazon.com Book Website: http://www.bittreepress.com/FreeBSD/introbook/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 13:46:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from woozle.rinet.ru (woozle.rinet.ru [195.54.192.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5F637B405; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (marck@localhost) by woozle.rinet.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9HKkY650555; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:46:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from marck@rinet.ru) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:46:34 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Morozovsky To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Christopher Schulte , Nuno Teixeira , , Subject: Re: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? In-Reply-To: <200110171558.f9HFwhk18218@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <20011018004443.N45098-100000@woozle.rinet.ru> X-NCC-RegID: ru.rinet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: [snip] KO> I have done this several times and only shot myself once. :-) Even KO> once is very painful, though. Be very, very careful and then check KO> everything again. You can't back up if you did something wrong. ... unless you have working serial console and did save old kernel(s) ;-) However, "be very carefil" if definitely good direction. Not only in system upgrading and IT even ;-) Sincerely, D.Marck [DM5020, DM268-RIPE, DM3-RIPN] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** Dmitry Morozovsky --- D.Marck --- Wild Woozle --- marck@rinet.ru *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 15:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234D737B412 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p41.lafn.org [192.168.16.41] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9HMQhS45983 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:21:40 -0700 To: From: Doug Hardie Subject: serial console Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have not been able to get the serial console to work. RELENG_4_3. New install from CD followed by a cvsup. I have: /boot.config: -h /boot/loader.conf: userconfig_script_load="YES" console="comconsole" I have tried with the kernel built with the flags for sio0 set to 0x10 and 0x30. In all cases, the system boots on the video console. If I interrupt it during the early boot and give the -h manually, then it uses the serial console properly until the next boot. I get the impression that /boot.conf is not being read because if I put garbage in it there is no visible effect. I have researched the archives and tried the things mentioned without any success. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 15:39:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep13-int.chello.nl (amsfep13-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE6F37B407 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootsr.com ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep13-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011017223938.UFGG18584.amsfep13-int.chello.nl@rootsr.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:39:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:39:37 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: serial console References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Hardie wrote: > I have not been able to get the serial console to work. RELENG_4_3. New > install from CD followed by a cvsup. I have: > > /boot.config: > -h > > /boot/loader.conf: > userconfig_script_load="YES" > console="comconsole" > > I have tried with the kernel built with the flags for sio0 set to 0x10 > and 0x30. > > In all cases, the system boots on the video console. If I interrupt it > during the early boot and give the -h manually, then it uses the serial > console properly until the next boot. I get the impression that > /boot.conf is not being read because if I put garbage in it there is no > visible effect. > > I have researched the archives and tried the things mentioned without > any success. Works fine with me, if you: 1) make sure it's /boot.config (and NOT /boot.conf) 2) It contains just "-h" (without double quotes) 3) sio0 flags are 0x10 or 0x30 in your kernel 4) Have some device on your COM1-port that talks with 9600 baud, no parity and 1 stopbit 5) If you connect a serial port of another machine to COM1, make sure there's a properly wired NULL-modem in between Hope this helps. Got some VGA-cards for sale :-) Hans de Hartog To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 15:50:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A11137B408 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p41.lafn.org [192.168.16.41] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9HMoKS48550; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:50:16 -0700 To: Hans de Hartog From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: serial console Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thats exactly the setup I have tried. I am wondering if the null modem is not passing some signal through that the port is expecting. However, if I manually enter the -h during boot it works fine... At 0:39 +0200 10/18/01, Hans de Hartog wrote: >Doug Hardie wrote: > >>I have not been able to get the serial console to work. >>RELENG_4_3. New install from CD followed by a cvsup. I have: >> >>/boot.config: >>-h >> >>/boot/loader.conf: >>userconfig_script_load="YES" >>console="comconsole" >> >>I have tried with the kernel built with the flags for sio0 set to >>0x10 and 0x30. >> >>In all cases, the system boots on the video console. If I >>interrupt it during the early boot and give the -h manually, then >>it uses the serial console properly until the next boot. I get the >>impression that /boot.conf is not being read because if I put >>garbage in it there is no visible effect. >> >>I have researched the archives and tried the things mentioned >>without any success. > > >Works fine with me, if you: > >1) make sure it's /boot.config (and NOT /boot.conf) >2) It contains just "-h" (without double quotes) >3) sio0 flags are 0x10 or 0x30 in your kernel >4) Have some device on your COM1-port that talks > with 9600 baud, no parity and 1 stopbit >5) If you connect a serial port of another machine > to COM1, make sure there's a properly wired > NULL-modem in between > >Hope this helps. Got some VGA-cards for sale :-) > >Hans de Hartog > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 15:59:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep11-int.chello.nl (amsfep11-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC8437B407 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootsr.com ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep11-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011017225908.QDJT28612.amsfep11-int.chello.nl@rootsr.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:59:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCE0D3C.6010409@rootsr.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:59:08 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Hardie wrote: > Thats exactly the setup I have tried. I am wondering if the null modem > is not passing some signal through that the port is expecting. However, > if I manually enter the -h during boot it works fine... > > So, your connection to COM1 is setup right. Something else you might want to try: put -P in /boot.config and disconnect your keyboard during the BIOS-blabla Forgot to tell: I'm NOT using your >>> /boot/loader.conf: >>> userconfig_script_load="YES" >>> console="comconsole" Hope this helps, Hans de Hartog To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 16: 3:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BEE37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p41.lafn.org [192.168.16.41] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9HN38S50032; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3BCE0D3C.6010409@rootsr.com> References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> <3BCE0D3C.6010409@rootsr.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:03:03 -0700 To: Hans de Hartog From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: serial console Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've done both of those. Still does not work. At 0:59 +0200 10/18/01, Hans de Hartog wrote: >Doug Hardie wrote: > >>Thats exactly the setup I have tried. I am wondering if the null >>modem is not passing some signal through that the port is >>expecting. However, if I manually enter the -h during boot it works >>fine... >> > >So, your connection to COM1 is setup right. >Something else you might want to try: put >-P in /boot.config and disconnect your >keyboard during the BIOS-blabla > >Forgot to tell: I'm NOT using your > >>>>/boot/loader.conf: >>>>userconfig_script_load="YES" >>>>console="comconsole" > > >Hope this helps, >Hans de Hartog -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 16:17:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep15-int.chello.nl (amsfep15-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CA337B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rootsr.com ([212.187.13.238]) by amsfep15-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20011017231735.ISUG12294.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@rootsr.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:17:35 +0200 Message-ID: <3BCE118F.8070201@rootsr.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:17:35 +0200 From: Hans de Hartog Organization: rootsr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE i386; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010621 X-Accept-Language: nl, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Hardie Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console References: <20011009113258.D35681-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com> <3BCE08A9.4050007@rootsr.com> <3BCE0D3C.6010409@rootsr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Hardie wrote: > I've done both of those. Still does not work. > OK, what I also did (but that should only effect things after booting): in /etc/ttys set all ttyv?'s to "off" and switch console to "on" so you will see the login prompt on your "console". I have no suggestions anymore to make your COM1 work as a console. Anyone else? I'm really curious because I configured quite some servers under FreeBSD 4.? this way and never had trouble to make COM1 work as the console. Hans de Hartog. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 16:24:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66C337B407 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA93192; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:24:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22742; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:24:10 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200110172324.JAA22742@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.4 05/15/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Gregory Bond To: Doug Hardie Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:21:40 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:24:10 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If this is an old machine that was installed with an old version and has been upgraded, then you will probably be running the original boot blocks. Try installing the latest boot blocks with disklabel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 16:39:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E288437B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p41.lafn.org [192.168.16.41] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9HNdYS54236; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200110172324.JAA22742@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200110172324.JAA22742@lightning.itga.com.au> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:39:30 -0700 To: Gregory Bond From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: serial console Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:24 +1000 10/18/01, Gregory Bond wrote: >If this is an old machine that was installed with an old version and >has been upgraded, then you will probably be running the original boot blocks. >Try installing the latest boot blocks with disklabel. Its a brand new computer with a new disk. First thing installed on it was 4.3 release from CD. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 18:50:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.enteract.com (smtp-1.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACAA37B405 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bjorn.goddamnbastard.org (bjorn.goddamnbastard.org [216.80.6.225]) by smtp-1.enteract.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 575216ED2 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:50:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 10437 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Oct 2001 01:50:17 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:50:17 -0500 From: ryan beasley To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: green@freebsd.org, Matthew L Creech Subject: Re: sshd core dump Message-ID: <20011017205017.A9625@bjorn.goddamnbastard.org> References: <3BBA7E1E.931F087D@prism.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="azLHFNyN32YCQGCU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <3BBA7E1E.931F087D@prism.gatech.edu>; from gte733p@prism.gatech.edu on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:55:26PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 10:55:26PM -0400, Matthew L. Creech wrote: > I looked around for some info. on this subject but couldn't find > any. I cvsup'ed my system and rebuilt yesterday. Made world, > installed world, made & installed kernel, everything was flawless.=20 > Today I tried to ssh into my machine and found out I couldn't do > it. It prompts for a password, but then stops with a "connection > closed" message. I tried again with ssh -v and got this message, > which seemed to be where it terminates. I'm seeing the same behavior. sshd_config was unchanged between 4.3-STABLE-20010709-0000-GMT (w/ a few patches here and there) and 4.4-STABLE-20011001-0000-GMT. Setting UseLogin to no, things appear to proceed normally. Anywho, here's some information that will hopefully help some people. If any more specifics are required, I'm up for any assistance I could provide. Weird little quirk: If I specify a command to execute (ie: ssh hostname /path/to/command), options.use_login is set to 0, many more login(1) related things to happen (see session.c), but the login is happy and I find myself staring at a prompt from the serving machine. (Note that the behavior is the same regardless of login as root or a regular user.) I'm pretty junior when it comes to debugging stuff like this, so if anyone sees me heading the in the wrong direction, I'd appreciate polite correction. -----BEGIN GDB STUFF----- > [root@backup /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/sshd] $ gdb ./sshd > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you = are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditi= ons. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for detail= s. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... > (gdb) core-file /sshd.core=20 > Core was generated by `sshd'. > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libopie.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libmd.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libutil.so.3...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libwrap.so.3...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpam.so.1...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/pam_skey.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libskey.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/pam_unix.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/pam_permit.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. > #0 0x8056699 in child_set_env (envp=3D0xbfbfeaac, envsizep=3D0xbfbfeab0,= name=3D0x8074772 "SSH_CLIENT",=20 > value=3D0xbfbff09c "216.80.78.44 4836 22") at /usr/src/secure/usr.sbi= n/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:899 > 899 for (i =3D 0; env[i]; i++) > (gdb) where > #0 0x8056699 in child_set_env (envp=3D0xbfbfeaac, envsizep=3D0xbfbfeab0,= name=3D0x8074772 "SSH_CLIENT",=20 > value=3D0xbfbff09c "216.80.78.44 4836 22") at /usr/src/secure/usr.sbi= n/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:899 > #1 0x8056e35 in do_child (s=3D0x8083e60, command=3D0x0) at /usr/src/secu= re/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:1173 > #2 0x8056049 in do_exec_pty (s=3D0x8083e60, command=3D0x0) at /usr/src/s= ecure/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:626 > #3 0x8057e12 in session_shell_req (s=3D0x8083e60) at /usr/src/secure/usr= .sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:1725 > #4 0x8057ffa in session_input_channel_req (id=3D0, arg=3D0x0) at /usr/sr= c/secure/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:1795 > #5 0x8064909 in channel_input_channel_request () > #6 0x805e777 in dispatch_run () > #7 0x80518a3 in process_buffered_input_packets () at /usr/src/secure/usr= .sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/serverloop.c:444 > #8 0x8051e91 in server_loop2 () at /usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/sshd/../../.= ./crypto/openssh/serverloop.c:714 > #9 0x8058643 in do_authenticated2 (authctxt=3D0x808d2c0) at /usr/src/sec= ure/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:2007 > #10 0x80553ed in do_authenticated (authctxt=3D0x808d2c0) at /usr/src/secu= re/usr.sbin/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/session.c:168 > #11 0x8053543 in do_authentication2 () at /usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/sshd/.= ./../../crypto/openssh/auth2.c:139 > #12 0x804dbc3 in main (ac=3D2, av=3D0xbfbffc10) at /usr/src/secure/usr.sb= in/sshd/../../../crypto/openssh/sshd.c:1158 > #13 0x804c0c5 in _start () > (gdb) print envp > $1 =3D (char ***) 0xbfbfeaac > (gdb) print *envp > $2 =3D (char **) 0x75626564 > (gdb) print **envp > Cannot access memory at address 0x75626564. -----END GDB STUFF----- -----BEGIN CLIENT STUFF----- > [ryanb@akerfeldt ~] $ ssh -v backup.enteract.com > SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321, protocol versions 1= .5/2.0. > Compiled with SSL (0x0090601f). > debug: Reading configuration data /home/ryanb/.ssh/config > debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > debug: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 1000 anon 1 > debug: Connecting to backup.enteract.com [207.229.143.61] port 22. > debug: Connection established. > debug: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_2.9 F= reeBSD localisations 20010713 > debug: no match: OpenSSH_2.9 FreeBSD localisations 20010713 > Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010= 321 > debug: send KEXINIT > debug: done > debug: wait KEXINIT > debug: got kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-gro= up1-sha1 > debug: got kexinit: ssh-dss > debug: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug: got kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug: got kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@open= ssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug: got kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd160@open= ssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug: got kexinit: none,zlib > debug: got kexinit: none,zlib > debug: got kexinit:=20 > debug: got kexinit:=20 > debug: first kex follow: 0=20 > debug: reserved: 0=20 > debug: done > debug: kex: server->client 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none > debug: kex: client->server 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none > debug: Sending SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST. > debug: Wait SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP. > debug: Got SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP. > debug: bits set: 1057/2049 > debug: Sending SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT. > debug: Wait SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY. > debug: Got SSH2_MSG_KEXDH_REPLY. > debug: Host 'backup.enteract.com' is known and matches the DSA host key. > debug: bits set: 1025/2049 > debug: len 55 datafellows 0 > debug: dsa_verify: signature correct > debug: Wait SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. > debug: GOT SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. > debug: send SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. > debug: done: send SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS. > debug: done: KEX2. > debug: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST > debug: service_accept: ssh-userauth > debug: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT > debug: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-int= eractive > debug: next auth method to try is publickey > debug: try pubkey: /home/ryanb/.ssh/id_dsa > debug: PEM_read_bio_DSAPrivateKey failed > debug: read DSA private key done > Enter passphrase for DSA key '/home/ryanb/.ssh/id_dsa':=20 > debug: read DSA private key done > debug: sig size 20 20 > debug: ssh-userauth2 successfull: method publickey > debug: channel 0: new [client-session] > debug: send channel open 0 > debug: Entering interactive session. > debug: client_init id 0 arg 0 > debug: channel request 0: shell > debug: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 16384 > debug: client_input_channel_req: rtype exit-signal reply 0 > debug: channel 0: rcvd eof > debug: channel 0: output open -> drain > debug: channel 0: rcvd close > debug: channel 0: input open -> closed > debug: channel 0: close_read > debug: channel 0: obuf empty > debug: channel 0: output drain -> closed > debug: channel 0: close_write > debug: channel 0: send close > debug: channel 0: full closed2 > debug: channel_free: channel 0: status: The following connections are ope= n: > #0 client-session (t4 r0 i8/0 o128/0 fd -1/-1) >=20 > Connection to backup.enteract.com closed. > debug: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 43 bytes in 0.0 seconds > debug: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 3166.7 > debug: Exit status -1 -----END CLIENT STUFF----- ( If kernel configs, dmesg output, login.(conf|access) contents, etc. are actually necessary, just say so. ) -----BEGIN SERVER STUFF----- > [root@backup /usr/obj/usr/src/secure/usr.sbin/sshd] $ ./sshd -Dd > debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.9 FreeBSD localisations 20010713 > debug1: private host key: #0 type 0 RSA1 > debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA > debug1: private host key: #1 type 2 DSA > debug1: Bind to port 22 on 207.229.143.61. > Server listening on 207.229.143.61 port 22. > debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode. > Connection from akerfeldt.goddamnbastard.org port 4839 > Connection from 216.80.78.44 port 4839 > debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version OpenSSH_2.3.= 0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321 > debug1: match: OpenSSH_2.3.0 green@FreeBSD.org 20010321 pat ^OpenSSH_2\.3= \.0 > Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_2.9 FreeBSD localisations 20= 010713 > debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port not trusted. > debug2: Original cipher proposal: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast12= 8-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndae= l256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se > debug2: Compat cipher proposal: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug2: Original cipher proposal: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast12= 8-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndae= l256-cbc,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se > debug2: Compat cipher proposal: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug1: list_hostkey_types: ssh-dss > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hell= man-group1-sha1 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-dss > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd1= 60@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-ripemd160,hmac-ripemd1= 60@openssh.com,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hell= man-group1-sha1 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-dss > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes1= 28-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndael256-cb= c,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes1= 28-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,rijndael128-cbc,rijndael192-cbc,rijndael256-cb= c,rijndael-cbc@lysator.liu.se > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-sha1,hmac-md5,hmac-ripemd160@openssh.com > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit:=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0=20 > debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0=20 > debug2: mac_init: found hmac-sha1 > debug1: kex: client->server 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none > debug2: mac_init: found hmac-sha1 > debug1: kex: server->client 3des-cbc hmac-sha1 none > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST_OLD received > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP sent > debug1: dh_gen_key: priv key bits set: 207/384 > debug1: bits set: 1025/2049 > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT > debug1: bits set: 1057/2049 > debug1: sig size 20 20 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY sent > debug1: kex_derive_keys > debug1: newkeys: mode 1 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent > debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS > debug1: newkeys: mode 0 > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received > debug1: KEX done > debug1: userauth-request for user ryanb service ssh-connection method none > debug1: attempt 0 failures 0 > debug2: input_userauth_request: setting up authctxt for ryanb > debug1: Starting up PAM with username "ryanb" > debug2: input_userauth_request: try method none > Failed none for ryanb from 216.80.78.44 port 4839 ssh2 > debug1: userauth-request for user ryanb service ssh-connection method pub= lickey > debug1: attempt 1 failures 1 > debug2: input_userauth_request: try method publickey > debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 22787/2000 (e=3D0) > debug1: matching key found: file /home/ryanb/.ssh/authorized_keys2, line 1 > debug1: restore_uid > debug1: len 55 datafellows 53376 > debug1: ssh_dss_verify: signature correct > debug2: userauth_pubkey: authenticated 1 pkalg ssh-dss > debug1: PAM setting rhost to "akerfeldt.goddamnbastard.org" > Accepted publickey for ryanb from 216.80.78.44 port 4839 ssh2 > debug1: Entering interactive session for SSH2. > debug1: server_init_dispatch_20 > debug1: server_input_channel_open: ctype session rchan 0 win 32768 max 16= 384 > debug1: input_session_request > debug1: channel 0: new [server-session] > debug1: session_new: init > debug1: session_new: session 0 > debug1: session_open: channel 0 > debug1: session_open: session 0: link with channel 0 > debug1: server_input_channel_open: confirm session > debug2: callback start > debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 > debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel 0 request pty-req re= ply 0 > debug1: session_pty_req: session 0 alloc /dev/ttyp1 > debug2: tty_parse_modes: SSH2 n_bytes 0 > debug2: callback done > debug2: callback start > debug1: session_by_channel: session 0 channel 0 > debug1: session_input_channel_req: session 0 channel 0 request shell repl= y 0 > debug1: PAM setting tty to "/dev/ttyp1" > debug1: do_pam_session: euid 0, uid 0 > debug1: PAM establishing creds > debug1: channel 0: rfd 7 isatty > debug1: Setting controlling tty using TIOCSCTTY. > debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK > debug1: Received SIGCHLD. > fcntl(7, F_SETFL, O_NONBLOCK): Resource temporarily unavailable > debug1: fd 3 IS O_NONBLOCK > debug2: callback done > debug1: session_by_pid: pid 2257 > debug1: session_exit_message: session 0 channel 0 pid 2257 > debug1: session_exit_message: release channel 0 > debug1: channel 0: write failed > debug1: channel 0: output open -> closed > debug1: channel 0: close_write > debug1: session_pty_cleanup: session 0 release /dev/ttyp1 > debug1: session_free: session 0 pid 2257 > debug1: channel 0: read<=3D0 rfd 7 len 0 > debug1: channel 0: read failed > debug1: channel 0: input open -> drain > debug1: channel 0: close_read > debug1: channel 0: input: no drain shortcut > debug1: channel 0: ibuf empty > debug1: channel 0: input drain -> closed > debug1: channel 0: send eof > debug1: channel 0: send close > debug2: channel 0: no data after CLOSE > debug1: channel 0: rcvd close > debug2: channel 0: no data after CLOSE > debug1: channel 0: is dead > debug1: channel_free: channel 0: status: The following connections are op= en: > #0 server-session (t4 r0 i8/0 o128/0 fd -1/-1) >=20 > Connection closed by remote host. > Closing connection to 216.80.78.44 -----END SERVER STUFF----- --=20 ryan beasley professional fat bastard http://www.goddamnbastard.org GPG Key ID 0x36321D13 with fingerprint 2074 CEB8 68AD 351A 85E6 98EB 09BA 36D9 3632 1D13 --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7zjVYCbo22TYyHRMRAo0LAJ4zBoxGBJEaTmOKPmpSaxJ1lCRbWACfUwjy kQMPxF6NdhkPc2t/oS4yC1g= =3VJ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --azLHFNyN32YCQGCU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 19:14:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0C37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.0.136.43]) by femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011018021424.GCER27641.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:14:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3BCE3AB4.8010005@home.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:13:08 -0700 From: Michael Snow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 20: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.vh.net (smtp.vh.net [63.239.44.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE0437B403 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 20:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ts4p13.vh.net ([63.239.44.102] helo=vh.net) by smtp.vh.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 15u3SM-0008Ue-00; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:02:51 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCE467E.5F002936@vh.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:03:26 -0400 From: Maxwell Quinn Berg Shron X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johansson Jan Cc: 'mikea' , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Install boggle (4.4) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, unless I'm misunderstanding you it's *supposed* to do that, once you've written the info you have to just 'q' along and not worry about it. Or do you mean that you still get the errors? -Max Shron > No go, when pressing w in the Partition editor (after acknowleding the "..should only be done..." it gives the "Writing partition information to drive ad0" and it's back to square one :-/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Oct 17 23:28:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from db-cvad-1-tmp.yahoo.com (db-cvad-1-tmp.yahoo.com [216.145.48.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BB437B401 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by db-cvad-1-tmp.yahoo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9I6SNb22180; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: doug@db-cvad-1-tmp.yahoo.com To: Dennis Mathiasen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cable modem choices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011017232538.P22111-100000@db-cvad-1-tmp.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > I haven't been able to locate information on how these things actually work. > Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about any authentication? These items are generally very different between providers. You're generally better off leasing the modem from your ISP. Take a look at http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/Cable-Modem.html to start, and do a web search if that doesn't answer your questions. Doug -- "We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail." - George W. Bush, President of the United States September 20, 2001 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 0: 4:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.wm.net (spencer.wm.net [194.18.224.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7696D37B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com [164.9.18.141]) by relay2.wm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28749; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:02:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:00:48 +0200 Received: by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4P6BFSRL>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:00:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johansson Jan To: "'Maxwell Quinn Berg Shron'" , Johansson Jan Cc: "'mikea'" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Install boggle (4.4) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:02:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Yeah, unless I'm misunderstanding you it's *supposed* to do that, once you've >written the info you have to just 'q' along and not worry about it. Or do you mean that you still get the >errors? Same errors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 0: 8:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C05D37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p18.lafn.org [192.168.16.18] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9I78LS96009; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200110172324.JAA22742@lightning.itga.com.au> References: <200110172324.JAA22742@lightning.itga.com.au> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:08:04 -0700 To: Gregory Bond From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: serial console Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:24 +1000 10/18/01, Gregory Bond wrote: >If this is an old machine that was installed with an old version and >has been upgraded, then you will probably be running the original boot blocks. >Try installing the latest boot blocks with disklabel. I see in the source that boot2 reads the /boot.config file. Since it basically prints a line immediately after reading a command and I am not seeing that line, I suspect boot2 is not being used. Here is what I see during the boot. ends with: Verifying DMI Pool Data ........... F1 FreeBSD F5 Drive 1 Default: F1 - It then sits there for a minute or so. If I type a key then I get >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: entering a -h there causes the serial console to work. If I don't type a key then I get: BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard etc. -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 1:24:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF72D37B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA28902 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:24:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:24:10 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: art work Message-ID: <20011018012410.A28864@freeway.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I asked this a couple of days ago and got no answer, so I'm gonna give it another try. Perhaps this isn't the right place to ask these questions... I received my 4.4-RELEASE CD set from my subscription. The subscription had been vectored through BSDcentral. I want to clone the first (install) CD for the techs in our company. Rather than putting the CD on my flatbed scanner to get a label image of the first CD, is the original artwork available somewhere? You know, like a TIFF image that was sent to the CD duplicators? If so, how do I get it. If it's not available, I'd like to know that too so I can generate some kind of artwork of my own. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 1:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from internet.digitel2002.hu (internet.digitel2002.hu [213.163.0.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C455137B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from niedermayer.com (dial-478.digitel2002.hu [213.163.28.96]) by internet.digitel2002.hu with ESMTPœ id f9I8SG513974 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:28:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailjail ([fec0:ff:0:5::2] helo=niedermayer.com) by niedermayer.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15u849-0000Gt-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:58:09 +0200 Received: (qmail 1041 invoked by uid 1003); 18 Oct 2001 07:58:09 -0000 From: "Miklos Niedermayer" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:58:09 +0200 To: Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP4400 Message-ID: <20011018095809.E451@bsd.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20011017160209.A22020@ccuec.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011017160209.A22020@ccuec.unicamp.br> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:02:09PM -0200, Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato wrote: > I've an Intel 4400 platform with 4 xeon processors, 4GB of RAM > and Adaptec AIC7899 Ultra160 SCSI. I'm running FreeBSD-4.4 STABLE. Same configuration except that I have an Adaptec 3200S as well. Once i had SMP problems, but anyway everything has worked fine. Could you share us some details? (kernel configuration, vmstat output, etc) ______ o _. __ / / / (_(_(__(_) @ bsd.hu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 1:28: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.asplinux.ru (asplinux.ru [195.133.213.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE8437B401; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asplinux.ru (sashkin.asplinux.ru [192.168.1.108]) by relay.asplinux.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9I8Rr816697; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:27:54 +0400 Message-ID: <3BCE92F0.8090809@asplinux.ru> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:29:36 +0400 From: Alex Levine Reply-To: sashkin@home.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010829 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Possible bug in scheduler. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 4-stable. Suspect the same in FreeBSD-current. resetpriority() calls maybe_resched() at the end after updating p_usrpri based on changed p_estcpu. maybe_resched() uses curpriority_cmp to compare priorities of current and given process and this function ( curpriority_cmp ) uses p_priority which is unchanged yet - the new p_usrpri is not reflected to p_priority yet. I'd appreciate an answer from anybody who can assess this problem. Regards Alex Levine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 1:44:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk (dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk [213.38.153.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 891FB37B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from no.name.available by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 08:29:36 UT Received: by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FYK4N8H>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:42:52 +0100 Message-ID: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B49@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> From: Tomas Palfi To: "FreeBSD. ORG (E-mail)" Subject: Quantum 7000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:42:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have internal Quantum DLT 7000 installed on PowerEdge2500 currently running FBSD4.4stable. the DLT is on SCSI channel 1 #6 (manufactures configuration). I have checked the kernel configuration for any obvious conflicts, particularly in the storage section of active drivers menu, and everything seems to be ok. I have actually attempted to dump an image of the file system with the following results: maranello# /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/ast0 / Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Oct 17 14:12:57 2001 Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch Dumping /dev/aacd0sla (/) to /dev/ast0 mapping ( Pass I) [regular files] mapping ( Pass II)[directories] estimated 39739 tape blocks on 1.02 tape(s) dumping ( Pass III) [directories] dumping ( Pass IV) [regular files] Closing /dev/ast0 Change Volumes: Mount volume #2 Is the new volume mounted and ready to go? ("yes" or "no") <<; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9I97es10101; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200110180907.f9I97es10101@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tomas Palfi Cc: "FreeBSD. ORG (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Quantum 7000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:42:47 BST." <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B49@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:07:40 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > We have internal Quantum DLT 7000 installed on PowerEdge2500 currently > running FBSD4.4stable. the DLT is on SCSI channel 1 #6 (manufactures > configuration). I have checked the kernel configuration for any obvious > conflicts, particularly in the storage section of active drivers menu, and > everything seems to be ok. > > I have actually attempted to dump an image of the file system with the > following results: > > maranello# /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/ast0 / 'ast' is the ATAPI tape driver. You probably meant 'rst0'. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 2: 3:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D546A37B405; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.247.137.205.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.137.205]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15067; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9I938m03179; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:03:08 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Christopher Schulte , Nuno Teixeira , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Major upgrade: 4.3R -> 4.4R - Any problem? Message-ID: <20011018020308.D373@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011017093645.03ca8e30@pop.schulte.org> <200110171558.f9HFwhk18218@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110171558.f9HFwhk18218@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:58:43AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:58:43AM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote: [snip] > installkernel and kernel are also totally safe in multiuser mode. That is not generally true. The 'installkernel' target will install new modules. Loading the new modules in the old, running kernel could make serious problems. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 2: 7:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk (dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk [213.38.153.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 896F837B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from no.name.available by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 08:52:35 UT Received: by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FYK4N9K>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:05:53 +0100 Message-ID: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B4A@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> From: Tomas Palfi To: "FreeBSD. ORG (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Quantum 7000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:05:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas Palfi > Sent: 18 October 2001 09:43 > To: FreeBSD. ORG (E-mail) > Subject: Quantum 7000 > > correction to my previous mail, it is DLT drive!! > > We have internal Quantum DLT 7000 installed on PowerEdge2500 currently > running FBSD4.4stable. the DLT is on SCSI channel 1 #6 (manufactures > configuration). I have checked the kernel configuration for any obvious > conflicts, particularly in the storage section of active drivers menu, and > everything seems to be ok. > > I have actually attempted to dump an image of the file system with the > following results: > > maranello# /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/rst0 / > Date of this level 0 dump: Wed Oct 17 14:12:57 2001 > Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch > Dumping /dev/aacd0sla (/) to /dev/ast0 > mapping ( Pass I) [regular files] > mapping ( Pass II)[directories] > estimated 39739 tape blocks on 1.02 tape(s) > dumping ( Pass III) [directories] > dumping ( Pass IV) [regular files] > Closing /dev/ast0 > Change Volumes: Mount volume #2 > Is the new volume mounted and ready to go? ("yes" or "no") << interaction is Y > Volume 2 begins with blocks on 2 volumes > finished in 8 seconds, throughput 4968 KBytes/sec > level 0 dump on Wed Oct 17 14:12:57 2001 > Closing /dev/rst0 > DUMP IS DONE > maranello# > > Instead of dumping it on to the DLT I have noticed that the /dev/rst0 has > increased hugely and boost my root (/) directory to 85% of its capacity. > What messages should I be expected in dmesg when the system boots, and > what have I done wrong?? Is there something what I overlooked when I > installed BSD. > > Thank you > -- > > Tomas Palfi > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 2:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from medialab.lostboys.nl (medialab.lostboys.nl [194.109.72.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E3C37B408 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buur.medialab.lostboys.nl (root@buur.medialab.lostboys.nl [194.109.110.8]) by medialab.lostboys.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02759 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:39:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from darkroom.medialab.lostboys.nl (ip-037.medialab.lostboys.nl [194.109.110.37]) by buur.medialab.lostboys.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA02591 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:34:51 +0200 Received: by darkroom.medialab.lostboys.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E83D915F7; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:33:29 +0200 From: Martijn Lina To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Quantum 7000 Message-ID: <20011018113329.C31013@medialab.lostboys.nl> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B4A@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B4A@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Once upon a 18-10-2001, Tomas Palfi hit keys in the following order: > >=20 > > Instead of dumping it on to the DLT I have noticed that the /dev/rst0 h= as > > increased hugely and boost my root (/) directory to 85% of its capacity. That's because de device doesn't exists any more, according to the man page: NAME st - SCSI tape driver DESCRIPTION The st driver has been replaced by the sa(4) driver. SEE ALSO sa(4) so, you'll probably need to use /dev/rsa0 martijn --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE7zqHpw/5eikYCPQYRAhTEAJ9UcYLyb4DvI2zS7+/tKOr/NVOb8QCfcnbJ GPadG2m6QNJIKkQnrc+yG6Y= =IC2v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 2:34:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk (dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk [213.38.153.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C2F4F37B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from no.name.available by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.18]) with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 09:19:36 UT Received: by dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <4FYK4N96>; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:32:53 +0100 Message-ID: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B4B@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> From: Tomas Palfi To: "FreeBSD. ORG (E-mail)" Subject: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:32:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Come on guys, i am getting a bit confused here i got few mail messages and almost each of them is is refering to Quantum DLT on FBSD 4.4 stable differently. And in the section of the manual 12.2 Device names, yet again the name of the device is different. i have checked the camcontrol and there is no response from any of them in the way i expected! thanks -- Tomas Palfi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 2:54:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD6D37B40B for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9I9rvH38621; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:53:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: art work In-Reply-To: <20011018012410.A28864@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20011018012410.A28864@freeway.dcfinc.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20011018025357B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:53:57 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 31 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No and no (no, this isn't the right place to ask and no, the artwork isn't generally available). - Jordan From: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: art work Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 01:24:10 -0700 > I asked this a couple of days ago and got no answer, so I'm gonna > give it another try. Perhaps this isn't the right place to ask > these questions... > > I received my 4.4-RELEASE CD set from my subscription. The > subscription had been vectored through BSDcentral. > > I want to clone the first (install) CD for the techs in our company. > Rather than putting the CD on my flatbed scanner to get a label image of > the first CD, is the original artwork available somewhere? You know, > like a TIFF image that was sent to the CD duplicators? If so, how do I > get it. If it's not available, I'd like to know that too so I can > generate some kind of artwork of my own. > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? > chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 3:33:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from london.ccuec.unicamp.br (london.ccuec.unicamp.br [143.106.30.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394837B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from guina@localhost) by london.ccuec.unicamp.br (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f9IAWwY04075; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:32:58 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from guina) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:32:58 -0200 From: Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato To: Miklos Niedermayer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISP4400 Message-ID: <20011018083257.A4014@ccuec.unicamp.br> Reply-To: guina@ccuec.unicamp.br References: <20011017160209.A22020@ccuec.unicamp.br> <20011018095809.E451@bsd.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011018095809.E451@bsd.hu>; from miklos@niedermayer.com on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 09:58:09AM +0200 Organization: Universidade Estadual de Campinas ( UNICAMP ) X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 09:58:09AM +0200, Miklos Niedermayer wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:02:09PM -0200, Marcos Aguinaldo Forquesato wrote: > > > I've an Intel 4400 platform with 4 xeon processors, 4GB of RAM > > and Adaptec AIC7899 Ultra160 SCSI. I'm running FreeBSD-4.4 STABLE. > > Same configuration except that I have an Adaptec 3200S as well. Once i > had SMP problems, but anyway everything has worked fine. Could you share us > some details? (kernel configuration, vmstat output, etc) > Hi, I unplugged my Adaptec 3200S and put just one 36GB U160 SCSI disk ( without tuning ) to easy analyze. The system freeze when I'm sending 30000 local mails. I'm using postfix+cyrus-imap+sasl+pam_mysql+mysql postfix-20010228.3_2 cyrus-imapd-2.0.16_1 cyrus-sasl-1.5.24_6 mysql-client-3.23.40 mysql-server-3.23.40 pam_mysql-0.4.7 Thanks in advance, Aguinaldo -- loader.conf: userconfig_script_load="YES" -- sysctl.conf: kern.ipc.somaxconn=4096 kern.maxfiles=65536 vfs.vmiodirenable=1 -- My kernel configuration: # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.33 2001/07/30 17:31:40 wpaul Exp $ machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident DAC01 maxusers 512 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MAXMEM=4000000 #Support for x87 emulation options IPFIREWALL #firewall - 07/08/2001 options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #firewall - 07/08/2001 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured device adv0 at isa? device adw device bt0 at isa? device aha0 at isa? device aic0 at isa? device ncv # NCR 53C500 device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device amr # AMI MegaRAID device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 NICs device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ex device ep device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # Xircom Ethernet device xe # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC. device awi # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those parameters here. device an # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet -- systat -vm: 3 users Load 0.65 0.55 0.32 Thu Oct 18 08:00 Mem:KB REAL VIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share Tot Share Free in out in out Act 51784 3768 172496 4388 1967496 count All 1738340 5292 1350112 6548 pages 370 zfod Interrupts Proc:r p d s w Csw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 424 cow 372 total 7 2 36 658 1161 6525 373 233 1136 237780 wire 138 mux irq5 156248 act 6 mux irq10 6.3%Sys 0.6%Intr 1.2%User 0.0%Nice 92.0%Idl 1339068 inact ata0 irq14| | | | | | | | | | 5244 cache fdc0 irq6 ===> 1962252 free atkbd0 irq daefr 100 clk irq0 Namei Name-cache Dir-cache 698 prcfr 128 rtc irq8 Calls hits % hits % react psm0 irq12 17133 16672 97 33 0 pdwake pdpgs Disks da0 acd0 fd0 pass0 pass1 md0 intrn KB/t 4.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 204096 buf tps 138 0 0 0 0 0 90 dirtybuf MB/s 0.63 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 239499 desiredvnodes % busy 97 0 0 0 0 0 197356 numvnodes -- vmstat 5 5: procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr da0 md0 in sy cs us sy id 9 3 0 174784 1965484 276 0 2 0 230 0 677 0 277 1938 243 0 3 97 5 1 0 173824 1965448 1101 0 0 0 952 0 134 0 386 6688 708 1 10 89 6 2 0 175056 1964984 1075 0 0 8 902 0 131 0 383 5918 660 1 13 87 4 4 0 175628 1964768 1444 0 0 0 1196 0 135 0 387 11690 735 1 9 90 1 9 0 179304 1963368 1174 0 0 0 954 0 138 0 391 62752 723 1 12 87 -- /var/run/dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #4: Wed Oct 17 15:29:52 BRST 2001 root@dac01.unicamp.br:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DAC01 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (697.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6a1 Stepping = 1 Features=0x387fbff real memory = 3858694144 (3768256K bytes) avail memory = 3757060096 (3669004K bytes) Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #0 Programming 16 pins in IOAPIC #1 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 3, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu2 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu3 (AP): apic id: 2, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 4, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec00000 io1 (APIC): apic id: 5, version: 0x000f0011, at 0xfec01000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0497000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Using $PIR table, 18 entries at 0xc00fde80 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib1: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 14 -> irq 2 IOAPIC #1 intpin 8 -> irq 5 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xa0f7) at 5.0 irq 2 ahc0: port 0x1c00-0x1cff mem 0xea800000-0xea800fff irq 5 at device 6.0 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs ahc1: port 0x7000-0x70ff mem 0xea801000-0xea801fff irq 5 at device 6.1 on pci1 aic7899: Ultra160 Wide Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs pcib0: on motherboard IOAPIC #1 intpin 15 -> irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 10 -> irq 11 pci0: on pcib0 ahc2: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xe6100000-0xe6100fff irq 10 at device 1.0 on pci0 ahc2: Host Adapter Bios disabled. Using default SCSI device parameters aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs fxp0: port 0x1800-0x183f mem 0xe6000000-0xe60fffff,0xe6101000-0xe6101fff irq 10 at device 4.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:d0:b7:a8:ae:05 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: at 12.0 isab0: at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1840-0x184f,0x1850-0x1853,0x1858-0x185f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xe6103000-0xe6103fff irq 11 at device 15.2 on pci0 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: on motherboard pci2: on pcib2 pcib7: on motherboard pci7: on pcib7 pci7: (vendor=0x0e11, dev=0xa0f7) at 7.0 irq 2 orm0:

My server runs frebsd 4.4 = and at the start ftp worked as it should by al of the sudden ano ftp stop work and I can’t log in on = ftp.

 

It locks like it’s not get the pasvd as it should. The version of fptd is = 6.0

 

Regards Leo De Geer

 

 

Kristianstad Teknikverkstad

www.ktv.se

www.teknikshoppen.nu

 

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------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C15813.9A2DF2D0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 12:26:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apu.eircom.net (mail1.tinet.ie [159.134.237.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01B737B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p164.as1.limerick1.eircom.net ([159.134.164.164] helo=dansat.data-plan.com) by apu.eircom.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 15uIo5-0003JB-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:18 +0100 Received: (from timbo@localhost) by dansat.data-plan.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9IJQ0m25740 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from timbo) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:00 +0100 From: Tim Bunce To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018202600.Q8270@dansat.data-plan.com> References: <01d101c157fb$1fab1c80$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <200110181806.f9II6Yn92967@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110181806.f9II6Yn92967@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:06:34PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:06:34PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > There is nothing in particular that enables dirprefs. > It's not a flag or anything. When you're using a new > kernel with the dirprefs code, it's in effect immediately, > whether you newfs your filesystems or not. > > The point is just that the best improvement is achieved > when you empty your filesystems and restore them. > "rm -rf" will do, but newfs is simply faster. > The diprefs code changes the way directories are laid > out on the disk when you _create_ them. Therefore, it > does not improve preformance on old directories which > existed before the dirprefs code went into the kernel. > It only affects directories created with the dirprefs > code. That's why people recommend to newfs and restore > your filesystems: in order to give the dirprefs code > (in the kernel) a chance to do its work on the whole > filesystem. Thanks for the explanation Oliver. I'd like to clarify one point... Can the diprefs code have a useful effect on an individual subtree of a file system if just that tree was deleted and recreated? For example... an 'ordinary' sprawling filesystem that has one particular subtree, a few levels down, that contains thousands of directories each containing a few small data files. In that subtree the files randomly get lots of open-read-close activity. Is it likely that deleting and recreating just that subtree would have a significant performance gain (relative to the max gain a complete rebuild would yeild)? Or would it depend on the available space or level of fragmentation of the overall filesystem or some other imponderable? Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 12:48:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ramstind.gtf.ol.no (ramstind.gtf.ol.no [128.39.174.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9093037B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (trond@localhost) by ramstind.gtf.ol.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA77925; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:48:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:48:16 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Trond_Endrest=F8l?= To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: Juha Saarinen , Subject: Re: Updating BIND 9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011018214431.R72037-100000@ramstind.gtf.ol.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:07-0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > Here's what I do: > > ln -s /etc/namedb/named.conf /usr/local/etc/named.conf > > Just make sure you put directory "/etc/namedb"; in your config file and > everything is happy. So have I, but just to be safe I did the same with rndc.conf. Also, I have hard linked /etc/named.conf to /etc/namedb/named.conf, ditto for /etc/rndc.conf. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Trond Endrestřl | trond@ramstind.gtf.ol.no Patron of The Art of Computer Programming| FreeBSD 3.5-S & Pine 4.33 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [216.135.64.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E8E637B40E for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4604 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Oct 2001 17:31:01 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:31:01 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018133100.A4472@palomine.net> References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:22:57PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:22:57PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > Dirpref is not something which is "enabled" or "disabled", not in > > the same sense as softupdates is "enabled". > > > > Dirpref is a smarter layout of information in a partition. You > > need a version of the system which knows HOW to do that smarter > > layout, and then you just rebuild the partition. There is no > > switch to turn on and off. > > > I'm not looking to turn if off or on, just to see whether a file system of > mine has that capability in it or if I need to newfs it. If your kernel has the capability--i.e. you built it after the dirpref code was added--then all your file systems have the capability. It can't not be enabled. Chris Johnson --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7zxHTyeUEMvtGLWERAoeCAKCaqKHEay6FWqireZRrJK8M1E3qzACgwtov y2WdRhrpyZQ0S1oJNFq/SU4= =d27L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zoon.lafn.org (zoon.lafn.org [206.117.18.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459A137B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (cs-wla2-p28.lafn.org [192.168.16.28] (may be forged)) by zoon.lafn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9IKQKA58261; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bc979@lafn.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bc979@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:25:49 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Doug Hardie Subject: Re: serial console Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First of all I want to thank all those who have responded to my problem. I finally have it working. However, I don't understand what was going on with the boot process. I went into /boot and modified all the forth prints to be very unique. Nothing changed when booting. All of the original messages were still there. I verified that the original messages only existed in /usr/src/sys. Then I disabled the disk on the second ide bus by removing both power and signal cables. The system would not boot at all. The BIOS went looking on the ethernet for a net boot. The boot order in the BIOS was completely ignored. Apparently the system was booting from the second bus disk, but actually starting up the primary disk. After fooling around with the BIOS, I finally got it to try and boot of the master disk (now the only one). Once it did that, then the serial console worked fine. All the altered messages showed properly. I then put everything back like it should be and just use a -h in /boot.config and it now properly uses the serial console. I don't know if that way or the way outlined below is the proper one, but boot.config seems to work so I will stay with that for now. At 18:36 +0200 10/18/01, Oliver Fromme wrote: >Hans de Hartog wrote: > > Something else you might want to try: put > > -P in /boot.config and disconnect your > > keyboard during the BIOS-blabla > >/boot.config is obsolete and doesn't work with loader(8). > >I'd suggest you write the following line into /boot/loader.conf: >kernel_options="-h" > > > > Forgot to tell: I'm NOT using your > > > >>>> /boot/loader.conf: > >>>> userconfig_script_load="YES" > >This is for setting ISA device parameters. > > >>>> console="comconsole" > >This is meaningful only to the loader itself, AFAIK. > > >Regards > Oliver > -- -- Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:26:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from 4evermail.com (equinox.4evermail.com [204.92.209.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 133DB37B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 71314 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2001 20:27:52 -0000 Received: from equinox.4evermail.com (HELO mail.4evermail.com) (nobody@204.92.209.4) by equinox.4evermail.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 20:27:52 -0000 From: jslivko@4evermail.com To: Subject: Loads on a Web/Shell Server Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:27:52 +0000 X-Mailer: Null Webmail / 0.5.9 Message-Id: <20011018202647.133DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a shell/web hosting company (4EverMail Hosting Services) and I have a little bit of a problem with the loads on my machine. I am hosting a few IRC servers, eggdrop bots and a few apache websites (mainly my own), and the loads are already at 0.15 and so on. I last CVSupped on September 25th and cannot understand what is making my system loads go up so high. The only clue that I have is the large ammount of CPU time being taken by the eggdrop bots and a proccess called: root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DL 2Oct01 31:08.71 (syncer) Would that be enough to cause the system to have such high loads? Below is a copy of my uname -a: FreeBSD equinox.4evermail.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 25 14:36:10 EDT 2001 root@equinox.4evermail.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/EQUINOX i386 If there are any dmesg bits that you might find useful to look at, please shoot me an e-mail and I will be more than happy to supply them to you. Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:28:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [216.135.64.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB71537B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4836 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Oct 2001 17:41:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:41:40 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: stable Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018134140.A4720@palomine.net> References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018133100.A4472@palomine.net> <01d101c157fb$1fab1c80$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01d101c157fb$1fab1c80$fe0c4042@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:34:22PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:34:22PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > And that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Did I build my kernel > with then capability and then newfs my drive, or did I newfs my drive before > this capability. I can't remember. So once > again.......................Does anyone know how to check to see if a slice > is utilizing this feature or has it enabled or whatever term you would like > to use. Please don't respond with meaningless spam if you dont' know how to > check because that's all I am looking for. It's not meaningless spam. You are just failing to understand what people are trying to tell you. You don't have to newfs a file system after the code was added for that filesystem to be dirpref "enabled." If your kernel has the code in it, then all of your UFS file systems, even if you newfs-ed them years ago, are dirpref-enabled. Perhaps you should actually read the answers you've been given, instead of dismissing them as "meaningless spam." Chris --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7zxRSyeUEMvtGLWERAuzmAJ9RrstwrDiExc3kFyG+yvD8lDW89ACeMlUR 07U13trumo6lJNpdWuci5K4= =1ENx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:31: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA2F37B40D for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 15uJoe-0007DN-00; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:30:56 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9IKMOw76255 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:22:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Quantum 7000 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:22:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9qndm0$2a2p$2@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <99A83EE8C34AD311809C009027936117144B49@dell-serv-1.phoenixmedical.co.uk> <15310.50283.575252.497988@audio.gfoster.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Glen Foster wrote: > Tape devices customarily have "r" prepended to their names. No. That 'r' means "raw device" (= character device), as opposed to a block device. Tape block devices just haven't been supported in BSD for the last two decades or so. When FreeBSD got rid of the block device concept altogether, the plain device names were turned into character devices, and the corresponding 'r' device nodes have been preserved as simple compatibility links in the 4.x branch. In 5.0-CURRENT they are finally gone. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 13:35:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E160537B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9IKZCV07836; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:35:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:35:07 -0400 To: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Rasputin" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Cc: "Doug Poland" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:22 PM -0500 10/18/01, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > Dirpref is not something which is "enabled" or "disabled", not in >> the same sense as softupdates is "enabled". >> >> Dirpref is a smarter layout of information in a partition. You >> need a version of the system which knows HOW to do that smarter >> layout, and then you just rebuild the partition. There is no > > switch to turn on and off. > >I'm not looking to turn if off or on, just to see whether a file >system of mine has that capability in it or if I need to newfs it. The point is that there isn't any single switch to look at to say "ah, it is turned on". I suspect someone could write a program to look at all the directory and file layout on your partition, and based on that tell you that "74% of this filesystem has been build using the newer, better rules for disk layout". The closer you get to 100%, the better your performance is. The closer it is to 0%, the more you have to gain by doing a backup+newfs+restore on that partition. > > Most easily done by temporarily adding an additional drive big > > enough to hold all your stuff, and booting a fixit disk. > >Well yes, but I would like to avoid all of this if it is already >using dirpref. I currently don't have enough drive space to fully >backup my 24gig stripe set. In some sense, there is an easy test for how much of your disk has been built using the newer ("dirpref") layout. What operating system are you running? (stable or current?) Let me assume "stable", because I (personally) would not have the nerve to run that large of a system on current... :-) When was most of the information on that filesystem written? (I do not mean "what is the last-datachg-time", I mean "when did the current data get written to the current filesystem". For instance, if you did a newfs on Sept 1st, and then did a 'tar xpf' of a huge archive of older files, then the answer would be "Sept 1st", even though many of those files (and maybe even directories) will have lastchg times of some time in the past. If most of the information on your disk was written before July 1st, then chances are pretty good that about 0% of your disk has been written using the newer, more optimal layout. If most of the info was written on Oct 14th, then chances are that close to 100% of the information is in the newer format. Again, there is no switch to look at in the filesystem which will tell you that the filesystem was build using the newer layout. It is just a question of whether a given directory was created & filled up after the "dirprefs" option was added to the system you are running. The higher the percentage of directories which were written after that system change, the closer you are to having "dirprefs turned on" for that file system. Unfortunately, I don't have a good idea of the exact date that your system would have known to write information in the newer, more optimal layout. So, this "easy test" isn't quite as useful as one would want it... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 14:27:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1717837B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there (unknown [208.186.107.224]) by ns1.infowest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BDBB212CC; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Samuel J.Greear Organization: GetMegabits, Inc. To: jslivko@4evermail.com , Subject: Re: Loads on a Web/Shell Server Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:26:24 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011018202647.133DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20011018202647.133DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011018212750.8BDBB212CC@ns1.infowest.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 18 October 2001 10:27 am, jslivko@4evermail.com wrote: > Hello, > > I have a shell/web hosting company (4EverMail Hosting Services) and I > have a little bit of a problem with the loads on my machine. I am > hosting a few IRC servers, eggdrop bots and a few apache websites > (mainly my own), and the loads are already at 0.15 and so on. I last > CVSupped on September 25th and cannot understand what is making my > system loads go up so high. The only clue that I have is the large > ammount of CPU time being taken by the eggdrop bots and a proccess > called: 0.15 isn't much load.... A few eggdrops can easily push the load that high dependant upon the hardware. I wouldn't worry about the load average until its consistently above 1, but that is entirely dependant on what you have running. For example, we have a DNS box (it runs many named-xfer's all day long) that never drops below a load of 14-15, but the box remains very responsive. A load average is just an indication of how busy a box is, it's hard to look at it and know right off if there's a problem unless it's abnormally high. .15 is definitely not abnormally high. My desktop usually runs .75-1.0 running KDE2. > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DL 2Oct01 31:08.71 (syncer) > > Would that be enough to cause the system to have such high loads? > > Below is a copy of my uname -a: > > FreeBSD equinox.4evermail.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue > Sep 25 14:36:10 EDT 2001 > root@equinox.4evermail.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/EQUINOX i386 > > If there are any dmesg bits that you might find useful to look at, > please shoot me an e-mail and I will be more than happy to supply > them to you. Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Jonathan > > Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 15:12:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFD437B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9IMCcN06193; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:12:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110182212.f9IMCcN06193@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost In-Reply-To: <20011018202600.Q8270@dansat.data-plan.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.4-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Bunce wrote: > Can the diprefs code have a useful effect on an individual subtree > of a file system if just that tree was deleted and recreated? Well, it depends on how much free space there is on the filesystem, and how "fragmented" it is. If the filesystem is 90% used, the dirprefs code doesn't have much room to use disk blocks for new directories in an efficient way. But it's probably better than nothing. It's very difficult to say in advance, so I'd suggest you just try it. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 15:40:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E1F37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9IMeSV152500; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:40:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018103048.B545@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:40:24 -0400 To: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Chad R. Larson" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Cc: "Rasputin" , "Doug Poland" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:32 PM -0500 10/18/01, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: >Well yes, but I would like to avoid all of this if it is already >using dirpref. I currently don't have enough drive space to fully >backup my 24gig stripe set. Assuming you are up-to-the-minute with 4.4-stable, then your system is already "using" dirpref. "Using" in the sense that the system will do a better job of laying out information on the disk for any new directories which are created. What you are basically asking is, "How do I find out if every directory on this partition was written after I installed the update which made the system smarter about laying out information on the hard disk?". The answer is "There is no tool which exists which could tell you what you want to know". I completely understand why you want to know, but it is still true that there is no program which will look at a given file system and figure out what you want to know. As I was in a somewhat similar situation to yours, let me tell you what I did. I did a 'cd' into one of the larger partitions that I mount. I did a 'du -s *' to figure out which of the sub-directories were the largest (the root-level of the partition had nothing but about 10 directories in it). I then picked the largest directories, backed them up into a gzip'ed tar archive, removed the directories, did a few 'sync's for good measure (to make sure softupdates had written out the information for all that disk space which had been freed). I then restored the directories from my tar-archive. This meant that a significantly higher percentage of the files on that partition were written out using the newer, smarter layout. So, instead of being 2% dirpref, it was maybe 95% dirpref. Now it would have been even better to back up all of it, 'newfs', and restore all of it, but I didn't have the disk space for some of my larger partitions. And it certainly DID improve performance. For this to make a big difference, though, you need to be able to remove a pretty significant percentage of the information on your partition. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 15:57:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.boulderlabs.com (mail.boulderlabs.com [206.168.112.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D39F37B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calypso.boulderlabs.com (cpe-24-221-212-162.co.sprintbbd.net [24.221.212.162]) by mail.boulderlabs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9IMv5Q93614; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:57:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bob@cs.colorado.edu) Received: from calypso.boulderlabs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calypso.boulderlabs.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA80680; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:57:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200110182257.QAA80680@calypso.boulderlabs.com> From: Robert Gray To: Garance A Drosihn Cc: "David W. Chapman Jr." , "Rasputin" , "Doug Poland" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:35:07 MDT." Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:57:02 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A related question that I was wondering, "Does my /kernel have the new dirpref code?" Here's how I tried to answer the question for myself. I'm not an expert, so correct me if necessary. In file ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c find the routine (ffs_alloc.c,v 1.64.2.2 2001/09/21 19:15:21 dillon) ffs_dirpref which is about 95 lines of code. In the old version, (src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c,v 1.64.2.1 2000/03/16 08:15:53 ps) ffs_dirpref is about 15 lines of code. So, if you have the source code, you can tell if your /kernel has the new feature. If you didn't build your own kernel, you might be able to gleen the information from the symbol table. Run nm -n /kernel >/tmp/n Then look at the size of ffs_dirpref by subtracting addresses. 4.4 SNAP, (aprox 2001-10-11) c02baf14 t ffs_dirpref c02bb1dc T ffs_blkpref ----- 2c8 (larger amount of code) 4.4 Release c01f55d0 t ffs_dirpref c01f5638 T ffs_blkpref ----- 68 (small amount of code) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 16: 5:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D97BA37B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15194 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2001 23:15:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy.the-i-pa.com) (151.201.71.210) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 23:15:08 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen (by way of Bjarne Wichmann Petersen ), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spontaneous crashes with STABLE Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:08:34 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20011018125533.OPYG1982.fepF.post.tele.dk@there> In-Reply-To: <20011018125533.OPYG1982.fepF.post.tele.dk@there> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101819083401.00322@proxy.the-i-pa.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday 18 October 2001 08:58, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > The last week I have had several spontaneous crashes. So I've followed some > advice (compiling the kernel with 'makeoptions DEBUG=-g' and activating > savecore). > > Now, I've got some core-images, but since I'm not a programmer I really > don't know what to do with them. Tried following some of the steps outlined > in developers-handbook but I just got some errors, eg.: > > root:/sys/compile/MEKANIX$ gdb -k > GNU gdb 4.18 > Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you > are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". > (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug > kernel.debug: No such file or directory. The problem here appears to be that you're not in the right directory to find kernel.debug, or that kernel.debug doesn't exist. Without it, gdb won't really know what to do with the the other files. Verify that you have a kernel.debug. If you do, give the full path when you enter "symbol-file" and make sure it finds it. If you don't have a kernel.debug, rebuild a debugging kernel and try again. If the system version and kernel config file are the same as the running kernel, you won't have to wait for another crash, but can use the existing crash dump files. -- Bill Moran Potential Technology technical services (412) 793-4257 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 16: 8:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA3637B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.247.140.203.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.140.203]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9IN8ku21206 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9IN8ix02048 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:08:44 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: serial console Message-ID: <20011018160844.E300@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <3BCE0D3C.6010409@rootsr.com> <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de>; from olli@secnetix.de on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:36:35PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:36:35PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Hans de Hartog wrote: > > Something else you might want to try: put > > -P in /boot.config and disconnect your > > keyboard during the BIOS-blabla > > /boot.config is obsolete and doesn't work with loader(8). > > I'd suggest you write the following line into /boot/loader.conf: > kernel_options="-h" Since when? It's still in today's -STABLE source from what I can tell. It works fine on a -STABLE built this weekend. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 16:17:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3871A37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.140.203.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.140.203] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15uMPR-0004Ii-00; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:17:05 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9INGF102074; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:16:15 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Rasputin , Garance A Drosihn , Doug Poland , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018161615.F300@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018103048.B545@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: [snip] > Well yes, but I would like to avoid all of this if it is already using > dirpref. I currently don't have enough drive space to fully backup my 24gig > stripe set. dirpref isn't a "new feature." It is a routine that always been there. Recently, the code within dirpref was modified to build more effiecient filesystems. If the new code is in your kernel, you are using it. But this will not change how an existing set of files and directories on a filesystem is laid out. It will affect how new directories are added to the filesystem. People who do a newfs(8) are just making sure that they are starting to build a filesystem completely from scratch with the new algorithm. The newfs(8) does not change an attributes of the filesystem. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 16:29: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BDB37B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9INSxb09231; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:28:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:28:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110182328.f9INSxb09231@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost In-Reply-To: <200110182257.QAA80680@calypso.boulderlabs.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.4-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert Gray wrote: > A related question that I was wondering, > "Does my /kernel have the new dirpref code?" If you've build kernel and userland from the same date (which is always recommended), then it is sufficient to look at the newfs(8) manpage. If it has the -g and -h options, then you've got dirprefs in the kernel. They were introduced at the same time as the kernel dirprefs code. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 16:31:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200AF37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E05362D01 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Subject: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <01f701c157fc$61626ce0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Message-ID: <20011018162650.Q1955-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going Configure->Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 17:11:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A7037B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4462EEB; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A3950B; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:11:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id RAA27081; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200110190011.RAA27081@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Lamont Granquist Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:31:17 PDT." <20011018162650.Q1955-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:11:03 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: > So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in > FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an > installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going > Configure->Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. For the basic procedure, see the FAQ. However, one important piece missing from the FAQ is that you may have to use the "boot0cfg" command to enable LBA booting (this is REQUIRED if your FreeBSD partition is above the 1024-cylinder/8GB limit, assuming your BIOS supports it, and virtually all recent BIOSes do). See the boot0cfg man page for more info. Note that the boot0cfg uses the term, "packet", to refer to LBA booting. Among other things, you need to use the boot0cfg option, "-o packet". Read the man page. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 17:26:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E0E37B407 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9J0QCV132688; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:26:09 -0400 To: Gordon Tetlow , "Schmalzbauer, Harald" From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: AFS for FreeBSD? Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:11 AM -0700 10/18/01, Gordon Tetlow wrote: >On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Schmalzbauer, Harald wrote: > > > see www.openafs.org. I read that somebody has successfully ported > > the server. I haven't tried it yet but I hope it's working. AFS > > is THE solution for many problems. > >/usr/ports/net/arla is the only *client* that works for FreeBSD. For >an AFS *server* check out openafs. I believe there is a porting >effort to get the openafs client working on FreeBSD, but I don't >know the status of it. > >BTW, there is a freebsd-afs mailing list. Please subscribe. It would actually be better to go to www.openafs.org and subscribe to the mailing-lists there. They have a list for OpenAFS-port-freebsd , and that gets more traffic than the freebsd-afs mailing list. The freebsd-afs mailing list was created before openafs showed up, and was really intended in getting a "transarc client" for freebsd. That did not get very far before IBM decided to spin-off openAFS. I'll also say that I am looking forward to openafs clients and servers for freebsd. I realize arla should work as a client, but it would be easier for me to sell FreeBSD with an "official openAFS client" here at RPI. Right now the openAFS for linux client is one of the things which causes us to use linux for some new servers. ARLA may very well be fine code, but politically it is a harder sell. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 19:52: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC8D37B403; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 19:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA34428; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:51:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:51:55 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "jslivko@4evermail.com" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loads on a Web/Shell Server In-Reply-To: <20011018202647.133DB37B407@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jslivko@4evermail.com wrote to stable@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hello, > > I have a shell/web hosting company (4EverMail Hosting Services) and I > have a little bit of a problem with the loads on my machine. I am > hosting a few IRC servers, eggdrop bots and a few apache websites > (mainly my own), and the loads are already at 0.15 and so on. Load averages confuse a lot of people. 0.15 is quite low. On the server I am logged in to: 8:37PM up 205 days, 17:52, 6 users, load averages: 2.44, 2.51, 2.45 Yet the system (old hardware, too) is still very responsive in a shell, requests over the network, etc, the idle process gets 70-80% of the CPU under normal circumstances, and the disk array LED is only on for perhaps half of the time. I seen systems of load < 1.0 that are essentially ground to a halt, and systems of loads in the teens that smoke along just fine. I can't remember seeing a UNIX machine crap out with a load of 0.15, though! With a load of 0.15, that means that in the large majority of the time, there are NO processes in the run queue.. which means things are happening about as close to "real time" as you can get in a multitasking OS. A small percentage of the time, you might have one or two processes in the run queue, which, in most cases, is really nothing at all. The load averages are, at best, a comparative indication of the change in load of one system over time. Unless your system is really unresponsive, you needn't pay much attention to the load averages. If your system IS really unresponsive, make a note of the load average, and see what is eating all of your resources. Hope this helps, - Ryan > I last CVSupped on September 25th and cannot understand what is making > my system loads go up so high. The only clue that I have is the large > ammount of CPU time being taken by the eggdrop bots and a proccess > called: > > root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ?? DL 2Oct01 31:08.71 (syncer) > > Would that be enough to cause the system to have such high loads? > > Below is a copy of my uname -a: > > FreeBSD equinox.4evermail.com 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue > Sep 25 14:36:10 EDT 2001 > root@equinox.4evermail.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/EQUINOX i386 > > If there are any dmesg bits that you might find useful to look at, > please shoot me an e-mail and I will be more than happy to supply > them to you. Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Jonathan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Ryan Thompson Network Administrator, Accounts SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E - Saskatoon, SK - S7H 0W2 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-664-1161 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 20:12: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76D637B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02011; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:09:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:09:23 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , Rasputin , Garance A Drosihn , Doug Poland , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018200923.A1948@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <20010928141246.A15515@xor.obsecurity.org> <20011002212002.4034283f.steveo@eircom.net> <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018103048.B545@freeway.dcfinc.com> <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01c701c157fa$d8449ba0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:32:22PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: >> If it's a UFS, and you're running a new enough kernel, it's getting >> done. Of course, it can only be smart about stuff written to the >> disk after you built the new kernel. If your disk is mostly empty, >> you're cool. If it's pretty full you should back it up, delete >> everything (newfs is the fastest way) and then restore all your >> data. >> > Well yes, but I would like to avoid all of this if it is > already using dirpref. I currently don't have enough drive > space to fully backup my 24gig stripe set. Any directories created after you installed a kernel with the new filesystem layout code will have the more optimized layout. Directories created earlier will have the layout they've always had. Since there's not a switch to turn on/off or test, there's no good way to tell how close to optimal your current disk is. You can force it to be nice by dumping and restoring it. Otherwise, I'd say the create date/time stamp compared against a calendar would give you your best guess. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 20:19:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CA737B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02067; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:19:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:19:10 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Tim Bunce Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011018201910.C1948@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01d101c157fb$1fab1c80$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <200110181806.f9II6Yn92967@lurza.secnetix.de> <20011018202600.Q8270@dansat.data-plan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011018202600.Q8270@dansat.data-plan.com>; from Tim.Bunce@pobox.com on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:26:00PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:26:00PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote: > Can the diprefs code have a useful effect on an individual subtree > of a file system if just that tree was deleted and recreated? Sure. Do a "rm -rf /usr/ports/*" and then re-sup the damn thing. You'll be impressed. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 20:44:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.safepages.com (server1.safepages.com [216.127.146.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CE837B407; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [208.186.187.114]) by server1.safepages.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFC35E7F; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 03:43:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Sender: peterm@primedial.net From: Peter Matthews To: "Mortgage Rate Info" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 20:53:37 -0700 Subject: Need a Home Loan? Let Us Help! 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Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/26Jan01-1134AM) id f9J48q5412969; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:08:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp by nantai.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.11.2/1.1.29.3/30Jan01-0241PM) id f9J48qE183851; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:08:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:Y8cGnPnq6Mig1R0Pa6811xJ1rxCzwwmh@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.43.7]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W/zodiac-May2000) with ESMTP id NAA14645; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:18:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200110190418.NAA14645@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Reply-To: kazutaka.yokota@nifty.com Subject: Re: serial console In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 18:36:35 +0200." <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200110181636.f9IGaZ686886@lurza.secnetix.de> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:18:57 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hans de Hartog wrote: > > Something else you might want to try: put > > -P in /boot.config and disconnect your > > keyboard during the BIOS-blabla > >/boot.config is obsolete No, it isn't obsolete, and it works. And I see no immediate need/plan to make it obsolete. >and doesn't work with loader(8). /boot.config is for the boot2 block, not for loader(8). >I'd suggest you write the following line into /boot/loader.conf: >kernel_options="-h" [...] > >>>> console="comconsole" > >This is meaningful only to the loader itself, AFAIK. This is wrong. If you set "console=comconsole", the kernel will use the serial console too. The difference between the two methods, -h in /boot.config and console="comconsole" in /boot/loader.conf, is the timing at which the serial console is started. If you put -h in /boot.config, you will get your serial console working all way through the boot2 block, loader(8), and the kernel. If you put console="comconsole" in /boot/loader.conf, the serial console won't get any output until loader(8) encounters this statment after it initializes itself and prints the first few lines of opening messages. So, if you want to have the serial console working as early as possible, put -h in /boot.config. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 21:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-168.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16F837B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J4Yrs01000 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:34:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:34:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: How does FreeBSD performs in server tasks? [off-topic] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011019002641.K645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Conrado Vardanega wrote: > I would like to hear from Athlon-based server owners/admins how does it > performs with server tasks. My aim is to find out how good is a Pentium III > chip for a server instead a low-cost, high-performance Athlon CPU. I would > consider, for evaluation purposes, a (FreeBSD) system running > Apache/PHP/mod_ssl and MySQL mainly, because they're pretty sensitive to > user-response. So, which are the pros and cons of having a Intel based > server or a AMD based server? Support for Intel-based chipsets is likely to be more robust than for the AMD or VIA-based chipsets that exist on Athlon motherboards. As an example, it took awhile for XFree86 4.1.0 to be fixed to run on motherboards with the "Irongate" chipset (AMD 761 north bridge) when a Radeon QD video board is present. That said, my 1.333 GHz T-bird *flies*. I can build all of userland in around 40 minutes, a kernel in under 5 minutes, and all of XFree86 4.1.0 in about 20 minutes. For reference, I have 256MB of Crucial PC2100 ECC DDR on-board, and my disk is a WD Caviar ATA-66, 5400rpm. I have the write-caching sysctl enabled. Getting back to some more specific info you wanted, the only web app I run that has bearing is Kalendus, and it responds mighty quickly. > "Add-in" topic: how DDR-memory instead SDRAM affects server performance? It *rocks*. For another benchmark, I pulled 110 MFLOPs from this machine with the LINPACK benchmarks. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 21:45: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-168.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC90B37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J4j4s01022 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:45:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: cable modem choices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011019003600.N645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > I haven't been able to locate information on how these things > actually work. Apparently the ISP just uses DHCP, but what about > any authentication? My ISP expects a certain MAC address. > Are the modems themselves all functionally the same? Most > manufacturers don't say that they work with UNIX. Is the situation > the same as with phone modems v. "win modems"? No, not usually. You have RG-6 coming in from the pole to the cable modem, and CAT-5 coming out from the cable modem to your NIC. The cable modem doesn't care what OS is on the other end of the patch cable. > I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. As Doug Barton mentioned, you're better off leasing one from the cable company. The cable modem sitting beside me, for example, is $1000 (so I was told). The lease rate is just built-in to my monthly access charge ($59.95 for 1500K down/500K up). Hook up with dyndns.org and you're good to go. Oh, to minimize bonehead issues with the installer, you might want to boot Winblows for when (s)he shows up, just to placate the cable company, and then boot back into FreeBSD later. Otherwise, just convince them that you know what you're doing, and promise to support yourself. You'll need something like this in /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" (Replace "dc0" with the appropriate device for your NIC, e.g., "xl0" for 3Com 3C905, "fxp0" for Intel Etherexpress, etc.) Now you'll get an address at boot-time. I'm not sure, but if your box is already up when the installer comes, ifconfig dc0 down ifconfig dc0 up (or the equivalent for your NIC) might also do the trick so that you don't have to reboot. I don't actually know, never having tried it. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 22:21:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FEE37B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1F162D01; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Darryl Okahata Cc: Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <200110190011.RAA27081@mina.soco.agilent.com> Message-ID: <20011018221549.C407-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Darryl Okahata wrote: > Lamont Granquist wrote: > > So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in > > FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an > > installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going > > Configure->Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. > > For the basic procedure, see the FAQ. However, one important piece > missing from the FAQ is that you may have to use the "boot0cfg" command > to enable LBA booting (this is REQUIRED if your FreeBSD partition is > above the 1024-cylinder/8GB limit, assuming your BIOS supports it, and > virtually all recent BIOSes do). See the boot0cfg man page for more > info. > > Note that the boot0cfg uses the term, "packet", to refer to LBA > booting. Among other things, you need to use the boot0cfg option, > "-o packet". Read the man page. Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot manager with a Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg command. I had to install onto a 2nd hard drive and then boot into that instance of FreeBSD and use boot0cfg from there. It'd be nice to have the option of doing that from the CDROM. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 22:36:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tecdigital.net (tecdigital.tol.itesm.mx [132.254.97.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB3D537B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3018 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 05:36:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO midgar) (madd@127.0.0.1) by mail.tecdigital.net with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 05:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c15860$0ad10620$0a00a8c0@midgar> From: "Mario Doria" To: Cc: Subject: Strange problem while updating [Was: Strange problem while compiling a new kernel] Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:36:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, sure as hell this is not what I expected. After CVsuping RELENG_4 (as of today), I did make world successfully, then make kernel. It finished successfully, but it did not install the modules in /modules, but in /. After mv'ing them back to /modules, I found that it did create modules.old and there were my old modules. Also /modules did exist and after doing md5 checksums on some modules, it seems the files are identical. Does anybody know why did this thing happen? It is the first time I've seen or heard anything like this, so I guess this is some problem at my end. Thing is, what is the problem??? In /etc/make.conf, I have KERNCONF=DIGITAL (my kernel name) (Just checked, on another machine, after cvsuping releng_4 today, I had the same result. That's why I'm posting to stable) Mario Doria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 22:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (msgbas1x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C7337B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D652FB9; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD24F4; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id WAA03350; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200110190543.WAA03350@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: Lamont Granquist Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:21:44 PDT." <20011018221549.C407-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:43:04 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot manager with a > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > command. I had to install onto a 2nd hard drive and then boot into that > instance of FreeBSD and use boot0cfg from there. It'd be nice to have the > option of doing that from the CDROM. Uh, I did just that (blew away my dual-boot FreeBSD/Win2K boot sector by reinstalling win2k after being an Uber-Idiot), which is how I painfully discovered the lack of pointers to boot0cfg. [ I actually hex dumped the boot sector, read the boot0 asm code, and binary-edited the boot sector to enable LBA, before I discovered the existence of boot0cfg, which would have made my life MUCH easier .... ;-( ] The easiest solution is to boot the live filesystem CDROM (you did *buy* the four-disk set, right?), use fdisk to restore the boot sector, and then run boot0cfg. Everything you need is on the bootable live filesystem CDROM. Just make sure you use /boot/boot0 as the boot sector, and not /boot/mbr (the default). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 22:46:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.halplant.com (24-168-203-47.wo.cox.rr.com [24.168.203.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD9637B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.halplant.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 9D1911A7; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:45:51 -0400 From: Andrew J Caines To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: cable modem choices Message-ID: <20011019014551.C44761@hal9000.servehttp.com> Reply-To: Andrew J Caines Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Stable References: <20011019003600.N645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011019003600.N645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org>; from behanna@zbzoom.net on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 12:44:59AM -0400 Organization: H.A.L. Plant X-Powered-by: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP-Fingerprint: C59A 2F74 1139 9432 B457 0B61 DDF2 AA61 67C3 18A1 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Off-topic for -stable, but attributions have lost the small details such as email addresses and this is probably of interest to a few. Dennis Mathiasen said... > Most manufacturers don't say that they work with UNIX. Well, the Windows only software that they ship probably doesn't but this is a modem which (as Chris BeHanna pointed out) has co-ax in one end and cat5 out the other. OSs don't come into the picture. > I'd appreciate any suggestions which one to buy. Thanks. As far as choosing a cable modem goes, make sure that your ISP uses DOCSIS modems, then go out and get one. Don't spend more that US$200 unless it freshens your air. Chris BeHanna said... > My ISP expects a certain MAC address. Mine too. When I went and bought my own for $120, I spent three minutes on the phone with them to give them the new MAC and get back online. > As Doug Barton mentioned, you're better off leasing one from the > cable company. The cable modem sitting beside me, for example, is > $1000 (so I was told). In that case, I have some great deals for you! > The lease rate is just built-in to my monthly access charge ...at about $20/month, I expect. Don't be surprised if this goes up sometime soon, either. It adds up quickly. > Hook up with dyndns.org and you're good to go. ...or any of the other free and at-cost Dynamic DNS services. > boot Winblows for when (s)he shows up, just to placate the cable > company, and then boot back into FreeBSD later. Or you could let the cableco know that they have customers who actually choose their platforms and don't run the infected inflated infestation which infatuates so many and is responsible for the degradation of service any time the latest stupid exploit does the rounds on your shared network. As long as you aren't asking them to support your platform (which is your job anyway), they _should_ support the service for which you are paying them real money. The DHCP instruction were good, but don't forget the (empty) /etc/dhclient.conf. -Andrew- -- _______________________________________________________________________ | -Andrew J. Caines- Unix Systems Engineer A.J.Caines@halplant.com | | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 22:55:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from h3.generalresources.com (h3.generalresources.com [211.21.66.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDF837B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.tucheng.generalresources.com (h1.generalresources.com [211.21.66.250]) by h3.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9J5tgP60172 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:55:43 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (x4.tucheng.generalresources.com [192.168.2.4]) by server.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9J5tgO68977 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:55:42 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Received: from x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by x4.tucheng.generalresources.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9J5tIb42898 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:55:18 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from hsw@acm.org) Message-Id: <200110190555.f9J5tIb42898@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Hall Reply-To: Christopher Hall Subject: installkernel installs *.ko in / X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Exmh Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:55:17 +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have just done a "make installkernel KENRCONF=GENERIC" and found all the .ko files were installed in the root directory Is this the new place? I did not notice any message in UPDATING. After a looking at the Makefiles in /usr/src I found a variable called KODIR and adding "KODIR=/modules" to the make command restored the original behavior. Do I need to set KODIR in etc/make.conf? --- Christopher Hall Fax: +886-2-2795-3030 Christopher Hall Phone: +886-2-2795-5799 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23: 7:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsdsystems.com (panda.FreeBSDsystems.com [216.126.94.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7457B37B405 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 78911 invoked by uid 90); 19 Oct 2001 06:07:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20011019060726.78910.qmail@freebsdsystems.com> References: <20011019002641.K645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <20011019002641.K645-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> From: "Lanny Baron" To: Chris BeHanna Cc: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: Re: How does FreeBSD performs in server tasks? [off-topic] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 06:07:26 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: lnb@cybertouch.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Although this will come across biased because we build/sell servers and only install FreeBSD on them. With a Celeron in our entry level servers, it rocks (that is the rock derives it strength from the OS in this statement). But when you say server you must consider several things. What is it you are going to serve and what hardware are you going to give to the OS to work with. Lanny Chris BeHanna writes: > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Conrado Vardanega wrote: > >> I would like to hear from Athlon-based server owners/admins how does it >> performs with server tasks. My aim is to find out how good is a Pentium III >> chip for a server instead a low-cost, high-performance Athlon CPU. I would >> consider, for evaluation purposes, a (FreeBSD) system running >> Apache/PHP/mod_ssl and MySQL mainly, because they're pretty sensitive to >> user-response. So, which are the pros and cons of having a Intel based >> server or a AMD based server? > > Support for Intel-based chipsets is likely to be more robust than > for the AMD or VIA-based chipsets that exist on Athlon motherboards. > As an example, it took awhile for XFree86 4.1.0 to be fixed to run on > motherboards with the "Irongate" chipset (AMD 761 north bridge) when a > Radeon QD video board is present. > > That said, my 1.333 GHz T-bird *flies*. I can build all of > userland in around 40 minutes, a kernel in under 5 minutes, and > all of XFree86 4.1.0 in about 20 minutes. For reference, I have 256MB > of Crucial PC2100 ECC DDR on-board, and my disk is a WD Caviar ATA-66, > 5400rpm. I have the write-caching sysctl enabled. > > Getting back to some more specific info you wanted, the only web > app I run that has bearing is Kalendus, and it responds mighty quickly. > >> "Add-in" topic: how DDR-memory instead SDRAM affects server performance? > > It *rocks*. > > For another benchmark, I pulled 110 MFLOPs from this machine with > the LINPACK benchmarks. > > -- > Chris BeHanna > Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) > behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net > I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:19:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA2537B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6JOl13549 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6JOV16608140 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:24 +0200 (MEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (alaska [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.17 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6JO12006067 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.9 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6JNFg026652 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ust@localhost) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.2 ]) id f9J6JNGo026651 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:19:23 +0200 From: Udo Schweigert To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable Message-ID: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, one of the recent changes to sys/sys/vnode.h broke usr.sbin/pstat since now VTBFREE is not defined any more: ===> usr.sbin/pstat cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c: In function `vnode_print': /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: `VTBFREE' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 (continuing) Maybe someone can fix that. Best regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT | Fax : +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : udo.schweigert@siemens.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:32: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89B237B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-209.247.142.14.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.247.142.14] helo=blossom.cjclark.org) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15uTCN-0007KC-00; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:32:04 -0700 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9J6Vau03729; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:31:36 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Udo Schweigert Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable Message-ID: <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de>; from udo.schweigert@siemens.com on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM +0200, Udo Schweigert wrote: > Hi all, > > one of the recent changes to sys/sys/vnode.h broke usr.sbin/pstat since now > VTBFREE is not defined any more: > > ===> usr.sbin/pstat > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c: In function `vnode_print': > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: `VTBFREE' undeclared (first use in this function) > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 (continuing) > > > Maybe someone can fix that. It's still there, $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE vnode.h * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.13 2001/10/05 20:07:07 dillon Exp $ #define VTBFREE 0x100000 /* This vnode is on the to-be-freelist */ (((vp)->v_flag & (VFREE|VTBFREE)) && \ Do you maybe have a -CURRENT vnode.h? -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:36:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D7C37B408 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (dialup-209.247.142.14.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.142.14]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02002; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f9J6aT003760; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:36:29 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Udo Schweigert Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable Message-ID: <20011018233629.J300@blossom.cjclark.org> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org>; from cristjc@earthlink.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:31:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:31:36PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: [snip] > It's still there, > > $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE vnode.h > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.13 2001/10/05 20:07:07 dillon Exp $ > #define VTBFREE 0x100000 /* This vnode is on the to-be-freelist */ > (((vp)->v_flag & (VFREE|VTBFREE)) && \ > > Do you maybe have a -CURRENT vnode.h? Hrm. Spoke too soon. My CVS repository seems to be broken. Sorry about that. 1.111.2.14 is the latest vnode.h. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:37:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCA437B403 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04484; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:37:40 -0700 Message-ID: <3BCFCA34.F416138A@owt.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:37:40 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: One World Telecommunications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Udo Schweigert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable References: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Crist J. Clark" wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM +0200, Udo Schweigert wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > one of the recent changes to sys/sys/vnode.h broke usr.sbin/pstat since now > > VTBFREE is not defined any more: > > > > ===> usr.sbin/pstat > > cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c: In function `vnode_print': > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: `VTBFREE' undeclared (first use in this function) > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: for each function it appears in.) > > *** Error code 1 (continuing) > > > > > > Maybe someone can fix that. > > It's still there, > > $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE vnode.h > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.13 2001/10/05 20:07:07 dillon Exp $ > #define VTBFREE 0x100000 /* This vnode is on the to-be-freelist */ > (((vp)->v_flag & (VFREE|VTBFREE)) && \ > > Do you maybe have a -CURRENT vnode.h? VTBFREE was eliminated from pstat.c a couple of days ago but the change hadn't made it to cvsup7 until jdp restarted it this afternoon. You may be seeing something similar. Kent > -- > Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu > | cjclark@jhu.edu > http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061F937B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6c9l22032; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6c9f23227; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:09 +0200 (MEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (alaska [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.17 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6c912053769; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.9 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6c9Fg023773; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ust@localhost) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.2 ]) id f9J6c9v7023772; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:38:08 +0200 From: Udo Schweigert To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Udo Schweigert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable Message-ID: <20011019083808.A23702@alaska.cert.siemens.de> References: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org> <20011018233629.J300@blossom.cjclark.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011018233629.J300@blossom.cjclark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 23:36:29 -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 11:31:36PM -0700, Crist J. Clark wrote: > [snip] > >> It's still there, >> >> $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE vnode.h >> * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.13 2001/10/05 20:07:07 dillon Exp $ > ##define VTBFREE 0x100000 /* This vnode is on the to-be-freelist */ >> (((vp)->v_flag & (VFREE|VTBFREE)) && \ >> >> Do you maybe have a -CURRENT vnode.h? > > Hrm. Spoke too soon. My CVS repository seems to be broken. Sorry about > that. 1.111.2.14 is the latest vnode.h. Yes, the result is: $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE /usr/src/sys/sys/vno > * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.14 2001/10/16 23:16:24 dillon Exp $ Best regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT | Fax : +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : udo.schweigert@siemens.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 18 23:42:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6363B37B401 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by david.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6gES08092; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J6gEf25217; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:14 +0200 (MEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (alaska [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.17 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6gE12053793; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from reims.mchp.siemens.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.9 ]) with ESMTP id f9J6gDFg024025; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ust@localhost) by reims.mchp.siemens.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/alaska [ $Revision: 1.2 ]) id f9J6gDCb024024; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:13 +0200 From: Udo Schweigert To: Kent Stewart Cc: cjclark@alum.mit.edu, Udo Schweigert , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vnode.h broke pstat on -stable Message-ID: <20011019084213.B23702@alaska.cert.siemens.de> References: <20011019081923.A26473@alaska.cert.siemens.de> <20011018233135.I300@blossom.cjclark.org> <3BCFCA34.F416138A@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BCFCA34.F416138A@owt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 23:37:40 -0700, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > "Crist J. Clark" wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 08:19:23AM +0200, Udo Schweigert wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> one of the recent changes to sys/sys/vnode.h broke usr.sbin/pstat since now > >> VTBFREE is not defined any more: > >> > >> ===> usr.sbin/pstat > >> cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c > >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c: In function `vnode_print': > >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: `VTBFREE' undeclared (first use in this function) > >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > >> /usr/src/usr.sbin/pstat/pstat.c:451: for each function it appears in.) > >> *** Error code 1 (continuing) > >> > >> > >> Maybe someone can fix that. >> >> It's still there, >> >> $ fgrep -e \$FreeBSD -e VTBFREE vnode.h >> * $FreeBSD: src/sys/sys/vnode.h,v 1.111.2.13 2001/10/05 20:07:07 dillon Exp $ > ##define VTBFREE 0x100000 /* This vnode is on the to-be-freelist */ >> (((vp)->v_flag & (VFREE|VTBFREE)) && \ >> >> Do you maybe have a -CURRENT vnode.h? > > VTBFREE was eliminated from pstat.c a couple of days ago but the > change hadn't made it to cvsup7 until jdp restarted it this afternoon. > You may be seeing something similar. > OK, now it made its way to me (I'm cvsuping from cvsup7). Thanks. -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT | Fax : +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : udo.schweigert@siemens.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 0:15:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.wm.net (spencer.wm.net [194.18.224.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32D037B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com [164.9.18.141]) by relay1.wm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28483; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:14:45 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:12:55 +0200 Received: by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4P6BF90G>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:12:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johansson Jan To: "'Richard S. Conto'" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Install boggle (4.4) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:14:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Try making the CD the Master and the HD the slave. > >My experience has been that CDROM drives really like to be Master and don't work >worth a darn as a slave. Same deal even without the CD in the system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 0:37:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from emout1.wish.nl (emout1.wish.nl [212.123.129.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1990D37B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3.inside.servers (mail3.INSIDE.servers [10.1.0.7]) by emout1.wish.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id B792D20BF1 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 31801 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 07:37:11 -0000 Received: from p13540.nl.wish.net (HELO ) ([212.123.190.228]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.outside.servers (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Oct 2001 07:37:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 1155 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Oct 2001 07:36:20 -0000 From: "Andre Goeree" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:36:20 +0200 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installkernel installs *.ko in / Message-ID: <20011019093620.A1004@mandark.attica.home> References: <200110190555.f9J5tIb42898@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200110190555.f9J5tIb42898@x4.tucheng.generalresources.com>; from hsw@acm.org on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 01:55:17PM +0800 X-Sender: abgoeree@wish.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 01:55:17PM +0800, Christopher Hall wrote: > > I have just done a "make installkernel KENRCONF=GENERIC" > and found all the .ko files were installed in the root directory > Same thing here... CVSupped RELENG_4 on 2001/10/19. The kernel I built on 2001/10/18 did not have this behavior. -ago > Is this the new place? I did not notice any message in UPDATING. > > After a looking at the Makefiles in /usr/src I found a variable > called KODIR and adding "KODIR=/modules" to the make command > restored the original behavior. > > Do I need to set KODIR in etc/make.conf? > > --- > Christopher Hall Fax: +886-2-2795-3030 > Christopher Hall Phone: +886-2-2795-5799 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 1:25:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fepA.post.tele.dk (fepA.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6634D37B409 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from there ([62.243.124.243]) by fepA.post.tele.dk (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011019082546.TUDT23247.fepA.post.tele.dk@there>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:25:46 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen To: Bill Moran , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spontaneous crashes with STABLE Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:28:32 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <20011018125533.OPYG1982.fepF.post.tele.dk@there> <01101819083401.00322@proxy.the-i-pa.com> In-Reply-To: <01101819083401.00322@proxy.the-i-pa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011019082546.TUDT23247.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 19 October 2001 01:08, Bill Moran wrote: > The problem here appears to be that you're not in the right directory to > find kernel.debug, or that kernel.debug doesn't exist. Without it, gdb Found out I needed to build the kernel "the old way" ;) Now I get this: (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 IdlePTD 5177615 initial pcb at 4232a0 panic messages: --- dmesg: kvm_read: invalid address (c041b600) --- #0 0x0 in ?? () Now, where do I go from here? What does error-message mean? Do I need to do more examining? Bjarne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 2:10:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 469E837B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.62) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 09:10:12 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "'Darryl Okahata'" , "'Lamont Granquist'" Cc: Subject: RE: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:14:39 +1000 Message-ID: <001501c15854$9d492c00$3ec801ca@warhawk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <200110190543.WAA03350@mina.soco.agilent.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wouldn't using OS-BS (fbsd disc one\tools) work with win2k? That's what I used to dual boot all my win9x machines... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Darryl Okahata > Sent: Friday, 19 October 2001 3:43 PM > To: Lamont Granquist > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? > > > Lamont Granquist wrote: > > > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot manager > > with a Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't > give you the > > boot0cfg command. I had to install onto a 2nd hard drive and then > > boot into that instance of FreeBSD and use boot0cfg from > there. It'd > > be nice to have the option of doing that from the CDROM. > > Uh, I did just that (blew away my dual-boot > FreeBSD/Win2K boot sector by reinstalling win2k after being > an Uber-Idiot), which is how I painfully discovered the lack > of pointers to boot0cfg. > > [ I actually hex dumped the boot sector, read the boot0 asm code, and > binary-edited the boot sector to enable LBA, before I discovered the > existence of boot0cfg, which would have made my life MUCH > easier .... > ;-( ] > > The easiest solution is to boot the live filesystem > CDROM (you did > *buy* the four-disk set, right?), use fdisk to restore the > boot sector, and then run boot0cfg. Everything you need is > on the bootable live filesystem CDROM. Just make sure you > use /boot/boot0 as the boot sector, and not /boot/mbr (the default). > > -- > Darryl Okahata > darrylo@soco.agilent.com > > DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and > does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of > Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have > been following him all day. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 2:20: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.squidge.com (ns1.squidge.com [195.10.252.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA6E37B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 02:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from saturn (host217-32-162-224.hg.mdip.bt.net [217.32.162.224]) (authenticated) by mail.squidge.com (8.11.3-MySQL/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9J9JoO50851 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:20:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from stewart@nameless-uk.com) Reply-To: From: "Stewart Morgan" To: Subject: CODA and -Stable Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:19:49 +0100 Organization: Nameless Media Group Message-ID: <003701c1587f$3ab55de0$0f02000a@saturn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Does anybody have any experience (good or bad) using the CODA stuff? I'm interested in using the server replication abilities for an offsite "live" backup strategy. TIA Stewart. -- Stewart Morgan MEng AMIEE Technical Director, Nameless-UK T: +44 870 757 1625 | A: The Production House F: +44 870 168 0210 | 147a St. Michael's Hill E: stewart@nameless-uk.com | Bristol W: www.nameless-uk.com | BS2 8DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 3:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (virtua.sefanet.ch [195.202.225.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1BB37B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 03:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RATAMIAOU ([192.168.1.141]) by xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23474 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:18:24 +0200 Message-ID: <003701c15887$4b363ec0$8d01a8c0@gastroleader.com> From: "Marcel Prisi" To: Subject: Troubles with onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro100 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:17:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I have some troubles with an onboard intel etherexpress pro 100 on an SMP FreeBSD 4.4 release machine : every 4-5 days, the kernel logs : Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: device timeout Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x60 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x6 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x40 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x10 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: DMA timeout Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x10 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:07 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x10 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:09 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x1 0x0 0x0 0x0 Oct 19 11:01:09 fbsd2 /kernel: fxp0: SCB timeout: 0x81 0x0 0x0 0x0 And the machine doesn't respond to network anymore. This is really annoying. I wrote a stupid shell script that checks network connectivity and ifconfig down/up if any trouble found, but I am not satisfied with that. Is there a different driver for that kind of cards ? Should we disable the internal card and put another card instead ? What 100Mbit/s ethernet card does REALLY work with FreeBSD 4.4 ? Thanks for helping. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 4:21:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.wm.net (spencer.wm.net [194.18.224.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3B737B405 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com [164.9.18.141]) by relay2.wm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20727 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:20:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:18:42 +0200 Received: by wmsto3si1479.wmdata.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4P6BG1AW>; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:18:42 +0200 Message-ID: From: Johansson Jan To: Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Resolved! RE: Install boggle (4.4) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:20:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To all of you that offered assist, i would like to thank you. The problem is resolved. The disk was not a 40 gigger, it was (drumroll) a miss-labeled 60 gig drive. And the BIOS in the system does not handle anything above 40 gig (ok, 38,4) without some kind of disk manager, which was installed on the disk and allowed the MS operating systems to install cleanly. With a _real_ 40 gig disk, it installs just fine. Go figure, eh? :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 5: 1:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rr.gfoster.com (66-61-168-17.mtc2.cox.rr.com [66.61.168.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687BC37B403; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from audio.gfoster.com (audio [198.202.234.22]) by rr.gfoster.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0BA3E0C; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gfoster@localhost) by audio.gfoster.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JC1Mo74288; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:01:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gfoster) From: Glen Foster MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15312.5650.602693.210432@audio.gfoster.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:01:22 -0400 To: "Mario Doria" Cc: , Subject: Strange problem while updating [Was: Strange problem while compiling a new kernel] In-Reply-To: <001101c15860$0ad10620$0a00a8c0@midgar> References: <001101c15860$0ad10620$0a00a8c0@midgar> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 13) "Crater Lake" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Confirmed on another machine about 7:30AM EDT from source cvsup'd about 3AM with the same result. I'm also using a custom kernel. Mario Doria writes: > Hello > > I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, sure as hell this is not > what I expected. > After CVsuping RELENG_4 (as of today), I did make world successfully, then > make kernel. It finished successfully, but it did not install the modules in > /modules, but in /. After mv'ing them back to /modules, I found that it did > create modules.old and there were my old modules. Also /modules did exist > and after doing md5 checksums on some modules, it seems the files are > identical. > > Does anybody know why did this thing happen? It is the first time I've seen > or heard anything like this, so I guess this is some problem at my end. > Thing is, what is the problem??? > > > In /etc/make.conf, I have > KERNCONF=DIGITAL (my kernel name) > > (Just checked, on another machine, after cvsuping releng_4 today, I had the > same result. That's why I'm posting to stable) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 6:15:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fire.mariinsky.ru (fire.mariinsky.ru [195.201.62.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAD337B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 06:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oko2k (oko2k.in.mariinsky.ru [192.168.14.178]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by fire.mariinsky.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9JDFbh12512 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:15:38 +0400 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:15:40 +0400 From: Pavel Levshin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53o) Business Reply-To: flicker@mariinsky.ru Organization: Mariinsky Theatre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <108682270763.20011019171540@mariinsky.ru> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: user-level ppp and address range MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, It seemes like there are a problem in the user-level ppp. It assigns the same IP from the range to two of concurrent connections; therefore, second connection does not work. What can I do with this? Excerpts from the log: Oct 19 00:05:48 finity ppp[97414]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 Oct 19 00:05:48 finity ppp[97414]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state ... Oct 19 00:05:48 finity ppp[97414]: Command: default: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 ... Oct 19 00:05:48 finity ppp[97414]: Command: incoming: set ifaddr 195.201.62.9 195.201.62.11-195.201.62.15 255.255.255.255 Oct 19 00:05:48 finity ppp[97414]: IPCP: Selected IP address 195.201.62.12 ... Oct 19 01:53:40 finity ppp[98580]: Phase: Using interface: tun1 Oct 19 01:53:40 finity ppp[98580]: Phase: deflink: Created in closed state ... Oct 19 01:53:40 finity ppp[98580]: Command: default: set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 ... Oct 19 01:53:40 finity ppp[98580]: Command: incoming: set ifaddr 195.201.62.9 195.201.62.11-195.201.62.15 255.255.255.255 Oct 19 01:53:40 finity ppp[98580]: IPCP: Selected IP address 195.201.62.12 ... Oct 19 01:54:56 finity ppp[98580]: IPCP: Connect time: 74 secs: 1175 octets in, 0 octets out Oct 19 01:54:56 finity ppp[98580]: IPCP: : 10 packets in, 0 packets out ... Oct 19 02:15:27 finity ppp[97414]: IPCP: Connect time: 7774 secs: 2328528 octets in, 14736543 octets out Oct 19 02:15:27 finity ppp[97414]: IPCP: : 31629 packets in, 32645 packets out My setup (slightly modified today, as I tried to get it work) is as follows: FreeBSD 4.4-RC (28 Aug), mgetty, user-land ppp. ===ppp.conf=== default: set log Phase Chat Connect lcp ipcp ccp command set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0 set timeout 600 enable pap enable chap accept dns set dns 195.201.62.2 incoming: set ifaddr 195.201.62.9 195.201.62.11-195.201.62.15 255.255.255.255 enable proxy ===ppp.conf=== ===ppplogin=== #!/bin/sh /usr/sbin/ppp -direct incoming ===ppplogin=== -- WBR, Pavel mailto:flicker@mariinsky.ru icq:52216261 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 7:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.delaware.net (mail2.delaware.net [204.253.96.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4127B37B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delaware.net (purgatory.delaware.net [204.253.96.196]) by mail.delaware.net (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f9JE38sr013998 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:13:59 -0400 From: "j. rivera" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010906 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: compiling 4.4-STABLE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090204090401040209040201" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --------------090204090401040209040201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've been fighting with my machine now for about three days, but I'm not sure what to make of my situation, and any advice would be appreciated. Here's the situation-- The machine: 133 mhz Pentium 64 MB memory 6 GB WD hard drive My problem: I was running 4.3-RELEASE just fine. I decided to upgrade to 4.4-RELEASE, hosed my machine, so I reinstalled 4.4 fresh. I've now been trying to compile 4.4-STABLE, but with no luck. I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The compiler segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying to recompile the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the machine arbitrarily reboots. My first inclination is that it might possibly be hardware, but what makes me think this isn't true is that 4.3 ran fine (no problems compiling anything). If anyone else has had this problem or can provide some thoughts as to what might be causing this problem, please let me know. If any further info is needed, I'd be happy to provide the error messages, etc. Thanks. Regards, Jovan Rivera Email: rewt@delaware.net --------------090204090401040209040201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello,

I've been fighting with my machine now for about three days, but I'm not sure what to make of my situation, and any advice would be appreciated.
Here's the situation--

The machine:
133 mhz Pentium
64 MB memory
6 GB WD hard drive

My problem:
I was running 4.3-RELEASE just fine. I decided to upgrade to 4.4-RELEASE, hosed my machine, so I reinstalled 4.4 fresh. I've now been trying to compile 4.4-STABLE, but with no luck.

I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The compiler segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying to recompile the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the machine arbitrarily reboots.

My first inclination is that it might possibly be hardware, but what makes me think this isn't true is that 4.3 ran fine (no problems compiling anything).

If anyone else has had this problem or can provide some thoughts as to what might be causing this problem, please let me know. If any further info is needed, I'd be happy to provide the error messages, etc.
Thanks.

Regards,
Jovan Rivera
Email: rewt@delaware.net
--------------090204090401040209040201-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 7:17:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB86A37B405 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JEGkG69698; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:16:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id f9JEGWV69690 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:16:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3BD035BF.5B828B59@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:16:31 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lamont Granquist Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? References: <20011018162650.Q1955-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: > > So, whats the easist way to recover from a clobbered boot manager in > FreeBSD? I kind of naively assumed that this would be easy to do from an > installation CDROM (4.3-RELEASE) but I failed to get it to work. Going > Configure->Fdisk in sysinstall didn't work for me. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Download smart boot manager from http://www.gnuchina.org/~suzhe/ Put it on a floppy. This should let you boot your existing FreeBSD. Fix it with /stand/sysinstall - fdisk, write. Be careful! IMHO this is a _must have_ tool. I use it to boot a _hidden_ partition on our work machines, from which I can restore the Win95 data. Poor mans ghost. -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 7:39:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from logicalhost.com (logicalhost.com [63.169.206.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD56F37B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colt.ncptiddische.net (ppp-239.wobline.de [212.68.69.250]) by logicalhost.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9JEevR69286; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from howie.ncptiddische.net (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by colt.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9JEeWn15457; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:40:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Received: from howie.ncptiddische.net (howie.ncptiddische.net [192.168.0.3]) by howie.ncptiddische.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9JEe5M00844; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:40:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@tisys.org) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:40:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Nils Holland X-X-Sender: nils@howie.ncptiddische.net To: "j. rivera" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling 4.4-STABLE In-Reply-To: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> Message-ID: <20011019163532.U831-100000@howie.ncptiddische.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, j. rivera wrote: > I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The compiler > segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying to recompile > the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the machine > arbitrarily reboots. To me, that seems like a simple (or actually not so simple) hardware problem. If I were receiving such errors, I'd make sure that I'm not overclocking, then I'd change my RAM, set up conservative settings in the BIOS, and see what happens. Step by step swapping hardware components until the faulty one is found helps. > My first inclination is that it might possibly be hardware, but what > makes me think this isn't true is that 4.3 ran fine (no problems > compiling anything). If you really made no changes to your hardware then this is odd. I compiled and installed 4.4-STABLE yesterday without problems (cvsupped and compiled it on a Pentium machine that just previously had been set up with a new hard disk and 4.4-RELEASE). Anyway, I'd still recommend having a look for probable causes of the problems on the haredware side... Greetings Nils Nils Holland Ti Systems - FreeBSD in Tiddische, Germany http://www.tisys.org * nils@tisys.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 8:17:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eve.framatome.fr (eve.framatome.fr [195.101.50.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F53637B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ubc@localhost) by eve.framatome.fr (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9JFHfg16492 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:17:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ubc@eve.framatome.fr) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:17:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Claude Buisson To: Subject: problem with ftp install Message-ID: <20011019170345.Q16439-100000@eve.framatome.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am trying to install releases made from 4.4-STABLE cvsuped on October 16. The server is a FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE updated to the same date by makeworld: 1. using the boot floppies / sysinstall from this October 16 version, I sytematically get: "Unable to transfer the distribution from " after the last chunk of each distribution. But the transfer seems to be OK (if I do not retry and proceed I get a working system). 2. using the boot floppies from a 4.3-STABLE cvsuped on May 11, everything goes smoothly. 3. replacing the source of release/sysinstall in the October 16 sources by the source of release/sysinstall in the May 11 sources, and making a new release, everything goes smoothly with the generated boot floppies. TIA, Claude Buisson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 8:25: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C887F37B40C for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24178 invoked by uid 1002); 19 Oct 2001 15:24:28 -0000 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:24:28 +0200 From: Alson van der Meulen To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: compiling 4.4-STABLE Message-ID: <20011019172427.J7347@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:13:59AM -0400, j. rivera wrote: > Hello, > > I've been fighting with my machine now for about three days, but I'm not > sure what to make of my situation, and any advice would be appreciated. > Here's the situation-- > > The machine: > 133 mhz Pentium > 64 MB memory > 6 GB WD hard drive > > My problem: > I was running 4.3-RELEASE just fine. I decided to upgrade to > 4.4-RELEASE, hosed my machine, so I reinstalled 4.4 fresh. I've now been > trying to compile 4.4-STABLE, but with no luck. > > I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The compiler > segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying to recompile > the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the machine > arbitrarily reboots. > > My first inclination is that it might possibly be hardware, but what > makes me think this isn't true is that 4.3 ran fine (no problems > compiling anything). Maybe you could reinstall 4.3-RELEASE again, temporarily, to test if that works stable? If it does not, you broke your hardware while reinstalling 4.4-REL, else, there's prolly something wrong with the software. > > If anyone else has had this problem or can provide some thoughts as to > what might be causing this problem, please let me know. If any further > info is needed, I'd be happy to provide the error messages, etc. > Thanks. If the whole system is unstable, error messages usually don't help much, you can see all kind of funny messages. -- ,-------------------------------------------. > Name: Alson van der Meulen < > Personal: alson@flutnet.org < > School: alson@gymnasiumleiden.nl < `-------------------------------------------' What do you mean that wasn't a copy? --------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 8:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com [213.105.93.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14F237B434 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JFPUu69911; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:25:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Received: from ntlworld.com (alpha.private [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated) by pc1-cove4-0-cust214.bir.cable.ntl.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id f9JFPJV69902 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:25:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ianjhart@ntlworld.com) Message-ID: <3BD045DE.79886153@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:25:18 +0100 From: ian j hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "j. rivera" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling 4.4-STABLE References: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "j. rivera" wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been fighting with my machine now for about three days, but I'm > not sure what to make of my situation, and any advice would be > appreciated. > Here's the situation-- > > The machine: > 133 mhz Pentium > 64 MB memory > 6 GB WD hard drive > > My problem: > I was running 4.3-RELEASE just fine. I decided to upgrade to > 4.4-RELEASE, hosed my machine, so I reinstalled 4.4 fresh. I've now > been trying to compile 4.4-STABLE, but with no luck. > > I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The > compiler segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying > to recompile the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the > machine arbitrarily reboots. > > My first inclination is that it might possibly be hardware, but what > makes me think this isn't true is that 4.3 ran fine (no problems > compiling anything). > > If anyone else has had this problem or can provide some thoughts as to > what might be causing this problem, please let me know. If any further > info is needed, I'd be happy to provide the error messages, etc. > Thanks. > > Regards, > Jovan Rivera > Email: rewt@delaware.net o Check the date/time. From your mail headers you seem to have a time machine :) o How did you fetch the source? Triple check you have stable, not current. Start from scratch if you have to eg. delete /usr/src and /usr/obj and fetch src again. Don't forget to backup any custom kernel config. o Follow the order in /usr/src/UPDATING. ~line 308 o Check /var/log/messages o Send dmesg and suitable length tail from buildworld log HTH -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 8:42:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shikima.mine.nu (pc1-card3-0-cust143.cdf.cable.ntl.com [62.252.49.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C6F37B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rasputin by shikima.mine.nu with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15ubnq-0003Ik-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:43:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:43:18 +0100 From: Rasputin To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: compiling 4.4-STABLE Message-ID: <20011019164318.A12619@shikima.mine.nu> Reply-To: Rasputin References: <3BD186A7.3020808@delaware.net> <3BD045DE.79886153@ntlworld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BD045DE.79886153@ntlworld.com>; from ianjhart@ntlworld.com on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 04:25:18PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * ian j hart [011019 16:30]: > "j. rivera" wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've been fighting with my machine now for about three days, but I'm > > not sure what to make of my situation, and any advice would be > > appreciated. > > Here's the situation-- > > > > The machine: > > 133 mhz Pentium > > 64 MB memory > > 6 GB WD hard drive > > > > My problem: > > I was running 4.3-RELEASE just fine. I decided to upgrade to > > 4.4-RELEASE, hosed my machine, so I reinstalled 4.4 fresh. I've now > > been trying to compile 4.4-STABLE, but with no luck. > > > > I get all sorts of weirdness when I try to compile STABLE. The > > compiler segmentation faults and dumps core. Perl dumped core trying > > to recompile the kernel. Every so often during make buildworld, the > > machine arbitrarily reboots. That sounds nastily familiar. I'd agree with you that the hardware is unlikely to have suddenly broken, and I've seen a couple of cases where bad software can resemble bad hardware - in my case it was dodgy compiler flags from setting CPUTYPE. The problem was compounded by the fact it didn't break when I first built world, which meant every binary on the standard install was screwed. I managed to get out of it by going single user, unsetting CPUTYPE, and doing make buildworld -DNOCLEAN over and over again, until everything was built , then installing as normal. (make -j is not your friend on a shaky system, either) any binaries that repeatedly broke were replaced by scp'ed copies from a friends system. Evebtually I got it back up ,and I'm typing this on the same box, so it wasn't hardware, but it certainly looked like it at the time. It doesn't sound like this is your problem, but maybe some defaults have changed in 4.4-RELEASE, write caching by default, for example - maybe try setting hw.ata.wc=0 in /boot/loader.conf? -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns :: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 10:53:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sudz.ns3g.com (196.40.220-216.q9.net [216.220.40.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA56437B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cooler (cr768924-a.etob1.on.wave.home.com [24.42.29.172]) by sudz.ns3g.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9JHsOi55235 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:54:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sudz@ns3g.com) Reply-To: From: "Colin Legendre" To: Subject: problem with racoon port Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:54:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is a problem with the latest update to racoon, question one is how do I roll back to an older version of a port? Colin Legendre CCNA, MCP sudz@ns3g.com http://www.ns3g.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 10:56: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.the-i-pa.com (mail.the-i-pa.com [151.201.71.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4262537B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23818 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 18:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO proxy.the-i-pa.com) (151.201.71.210) by mail.the-i-pa.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 18:05:51 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bill Moran Organization: Potential Technology To: Bjarne Wichmann Petersen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spontaneous crashes with STABLE Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:59:13 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <20011018125533.OPYG1982.fepF.post.tele.dk@there> <01101819083401.00322@proxy.the-i-pa.com> <20011019082546.TUDT23247.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> In-Reply-To: <20011019082546.TUDT23247.fepA.post.tele.dk@there> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101913591302.00703@proxy.the-i-pa.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday 19 October 2001 04:28, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote: > On Friday 19 October 2001 01:08, Bill Moran wrote: > > The problem here appears to be that you're not in the right directory to > > find kernel.debug, or that kernel.debug doesn't exist. Without it, gdb > > Found out I needed to build the kernel "the old way" ;) I wasn't aware that was necessary. > Now I get this: > > (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug > Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. > (kgdb) exec-file /var/crash/kernel.0 > (kgdb) core-file /var/crash/vmcore.0 > IdlePTD 5177615 > initial pcb at 4232a0 > panic messages: > --- > dmesg: kvm_read: invalid address (c041b600) > --- > #0 0x0 in ?? () Type "where" at the gdb prompt. This will give enough information to start tracking things down. You'll probably want to capture the entire gdb session with script(1) so you can cut/paste it into future eamils. Here's some more info on the process: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html Depending on your level of programming knowledge, the output from gdb may or may not make sense to you. Personally, I know enough to look intelligent to newbies but stupid to kernel hackers. One way or the other, you should be able to guess by the names that come up whether the panic originated with the filesystem code, or the network code, etc. Once you have that info, post the details back to this list with a better subject ... i.e. "panic in ffs_blk_free" or whatever. This will set off warning lights for the people who are familiar with that section of the code and get you replies from folks who really understand what's going on in that section of the code. If posting in that manner doesn't get anywhere after a few days (remember, not everyone reads and responds to their email on a daily basis) try posting the same message to freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org and/or do some research and find out who's in charge of maintaining that section of the code and email them directly. Good luck. -- Bill Moran Potential Technology technical services (412) 793-4257 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 12:53:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190B737B405 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JJr8864909; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 21:53:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 21:53:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200110191953.f9JJr8864909@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Duplicate packages on 4.4-Release ISOs X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.4-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just noticed that a lot of packages are duplicated on the ISO images of 4.4-Release. Can someone please tell me if this is intentional, or is it a "bug"? For example, ruby-1.6.4.2001.09.08_1.tgz is on all three package CDs (discs 1, 3, and 4). This doesn't really make sense to me. Am I missing something? Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 13:10: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6556237B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C862132C; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (mina.soco.agilent.com [141.121.54.157]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28957524; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:09:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mina.soco.agilent.com (darrylo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mina.soco.agilent.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3 SMKit7.1.1_Agilent) with ESMTP id NAA01160; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200110192009.NAA01160@mina.soco.agilent.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: Duplicate packages on 4.4-Release ISOs Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2001 21:53:08 +0200." <200110191953.f9JJr8864909@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:09:56 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Fromme wrote: > I just noticed that a lot of packages are duplicated on > the ISO images of 4.4-Release. Can someone please tell > me if this is intentional, or is it a "bug"? > > For example, ruby-1.6.4.2001.09.08_1.tgz is on all three > package CDs (discs 1, 3, and 4). This doesn't really > make sense to me. Am I missing something? It's probably because other packages on the disc have a dependency upon ruby (for example). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@soco.agilent.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 14: 7:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BCD937B407 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9JL6aH45408; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, olli@secnetix.de Subject: Re: Duplicate packages on 4.4-Release ISOs In-Reply-To: <200110191953.f9JJr8864909@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <200110191953.f9JJr8864909@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20011019140635B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:06:35 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Packages are clustered by dependencies since you can't switch CDs in the middle of sysinstall's package browser. That means that certain packages which are used by other packages which only occur once per volume still need to be duplcated themselves. - Jordan > Hi, > = > I just noticed that a lot of packages are duplicated on > the ISO images of 4.4-Release. Can someone please tell > me if this is intentional, or is it a "bug"? > = > For example, ruby-1.6.4.2001.09.08_1.tgz is on all three > package CDs (discs 1, 3, and 4). This doesn't really > make sense to me. Am I missing something? > = > Regards > Oliver > = > -- = > Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 M=FCnchen= > Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author > and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. > = > "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 15:22:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wattres.Watt.COM (wattres.watt.com [205.178.120.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AC637B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.Watt.COM (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JMMC716794; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve) Message-Id: <200110192222.f9JMMC716794@wattres.Watt.COM> X-Newsgroups: local.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: Organization: Watt Consultants, San Jose, CA, USA From: steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:22:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: sudz@ns3g.com Subject: Re: problem with racoon port Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In you write: >There is a problem with the latest update to racoon, question one is how do >I roll back to an older version of a port? > >Colin Legendre CCNA, MCP >sudz@ns3g.com >http://www.ns3g.com What problem(s) are you having? It's working for me. To answer your other question, you can set a date tag in the cvsup config when you update the ports, but that's somewhat painful. You can also (assuming it's back up) use the anoncvs server and check out the files for the suitable date. -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA ICBM: 121W 56' 57.8" / 37N 20' 14.9" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Whois: SW32 Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 16:15:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (descartes.noos.net [212.198.2.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146F837B401 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28749958 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2001 23:15:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.37]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.74 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 19 Oct 2001 23:15:33 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9JNFRM17500; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 01:15:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200110192315.f9JNFRM17500@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <20011018221549.C407-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> To: Lamont Granquist Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 01:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Darryl Okahata , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: [snip] > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot manager with a > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > command. I had to install onto a 2nd hard drive and then boot into that no, but the CDROM has the kern.flp floopy which should be sufficient. as nearly you can, interrupt the boot process using then you should get the following prompt : >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:fd(0,a)/boot/loader boot: you just have to enter : 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader if that don't work, let's try : 0:ad(0,a)/kernel which should work in any case. Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 19: 9:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495AB37B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 19:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9K29AU96799 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:09:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id f9K296696791 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:09:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011019220434.03726650@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:09:04 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: negative b_blkno Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why trying to do a dump I am getting a series of dscheck(#da/36): negative b_blkno -1534422967 dscheck(#da/36): negative b_blkno -1534422966 dscheck(#da/36): negative b_blkno -1534422965 dscheck(#da/36): negative b_blkno -1534422964 logged in kern.* as a result of dump trying to do something. I dont get the errors when reading any of the files, only when using dump. DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1534422964]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1534422963]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1534422962]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1534422961]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [block -1634975606]: count=8192 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975606]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975605]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975604]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975603]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975602]: count=512 DUMP: read error from /dev/da4e: Invalid argument: [sector -1634975601]: count=512 What does this mean ? fsck does not seem to find anything wrong. ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 20:12: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745D637B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C0162D01; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Darryl Okahata , Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <200110192315.f9JNFRM17500@gits.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20011019200745.K3471-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah, right, I tried to figure out what to do there to try to boot from my hard drive partition, but I couldn't figure it out. For my own personal use I can see I'll have to learn how to do that right, but might I suggest that in the interest of making FBSD more user friendly that the syntax or at least the help be improved? On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > Lamont Granquist wrote: > [snip] > > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot manager with a > > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > > command. I had to install onto a 2nd hard drive and then boot into that > > no, but the CDROM has the kern.flp floopy which should be sufficient. > as nearly you can, interrupt the boot process using then > you should get the following prompt : > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > Default: 0:fd(0,a)/boot/loader > boot: > > you just have to enter : > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > if that don't work, let's try : > > 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > > which should work in any case. > > Cyrille. > -- > Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 22:42: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B066237B403 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 22:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9K5g6V98546 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 01:42:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp.sentex.net (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.6/8.11.6av) with ESMTP id f9K5g1698538 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 01:42:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011020003548.02b10788@192.168.0.12> X-Sender: mdtancsa@192.168.0.12 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 01:41:59 -0400 To: stable@freebsd.org From: Mike Tancsa Subject: avgfpdir Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am in the process of dumping a file system to a new drive for a number of reasons. This particular partition has a lot of files in single directories and I was wondering if avgfpdir makes a difference performance wise, or should it be left as is. If I should adjust it, how is it best to use it ? Before filling a drive ? After ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Oct 19 23:21: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orngca-mls03.socal.rr.com (orngca-mls03.socal.rr.com [66.75.160.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B1037B405 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usa.net (sc-24-24-225-219.socal.rr.com [24.24.225.219]) by orngca-mls03.socal.rr.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9K6L5D23870 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:21:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BD117E9.2070409@usa.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:21:29 -0700 From: Tho Tran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010916 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 2:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from io.dreamscape.com (io.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C552537B40A for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mwmicro (uA2-p47.dreamscape.com [209.4.253.47]) by io.dreamscape.com (8.9.3+blt/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA14350 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 05:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dennis Mathiasen" To: Subject: RE: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 05:24:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200110192315.f9JNFRM17500@gits.dyndns.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot > manager with a > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > command. I've made this mistake as well, but on 4.1. I booted from the normal install cd and chose custom install. Next chose partition. At the next screen just type 'q' and the boot manager screen comes up. Choose 'standard boot manager'. Then quit the install and everything works fine. Dennis Mathiasen dennislm@dreamscape.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 7:25:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673D737B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 07:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c595663-a ([24.254.67.120]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011020142529.BUCE571.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c595663-a> for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 07:25:29 -0700 From: Joe Warner To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Simple (possibly stupid) question Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:14:37 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01102008243301.00419@c595663-a> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded from 4.2-RELEASE to 4.4-STABLE and I understand this process quite well now. I'm still a newbie at this and this might be a stupid question but.. If I've taken the steps here: http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cvsup.html ..and I run /usr/local/bin/cvsrun each week, do I need to do this: http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/mw.html ..each time, after running cvsrun? I've read through the handbook/FAQ a bunch of times, searched the archives and the web and so far, haven't found anything that confirms this. Thanks Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 7:32:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from luke.immure.com (luke.immure.com [207.8.42.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E52037B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 07:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.immure.com (8.11.2/8.11.5) id f9KEWGp70561; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:32:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bob) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:32:16 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: stable list Subject: Re: dirpref gives massive performance boost Message-ID: <20011020093216.A69602@luke.immure.com> Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <20011002214353.A653@student.uu.se> <20011018083713.A20403@polands.org> <20011018144850.A1943@shikima.mine.nu> <20011018105736.A43973@leviathan.inethouston.net> <01c101c157f9$87868da0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018133100.A4472@palomine.net> <01d101c157fb$1fab1c80$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> <20011018134140.A4720@palomine.net> <01f701c157fc$61626ce0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01f701c157fc$61626ce0$fe0c4042@inethouston.net>; from dwcjr@inethouston.net on Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:43:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:43:21PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:34:22PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > And that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Did I build my kernel > > with then capability and then newfs my drive, or did I newfs my drive > before > > this capability. I can't remember. So once > > again.......................Does anyone know how to check to see if a > slice > > is utilizing this feature or has it enabled or whatever term you would > like > > to use. Please don't respond with meaningless spam if you dont' know how > to > > check because that's all I am looking for. > > It's not meaningless spam. You are just failing to understand what people > are > trying to tell you. > > You don't have to newfs a file system after the code was added for that > filesystem to be dirpref "enabled." If your kernel has the code in it, then > all > of your UFS file systems, even if you newfs-ed them years ago, are > dirpref-enabled. > > Perhaps you should actually read the answers you've been given, instead of > dismissing them as "meaningless spam." > > ------- > If I had received an email like that previously I would not have dismissed > it. Most everyone I have talked to is under the impression that you have to > newfs a drive with the kernel to enable dirpref, you are the only one I have > talked to who doesn't share this view. The new dirpref code (as I understand it) is simply a change in the algorithm used to physically locate the subdirectories on the disk (keeps them closer to their parents). Consequently, once you have built a new kernel with this new algorithm it will try to locate the subdirectories accordingly. However, for mature filesystems with little update activity, there won't be much opportunity for the new dirpref code to do it's thing (you aren't creating new subdirectories). So you will see little to no improvment for these filesystems (depending upon update activity). If, however, you dump, newfs and restore those same mature filesystems, the new dirpref code will then restructure the filesystems (as they are restored) according to the new, improved, layout algorthim. Note: If I off-base here, someone please correct me. Bob > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Bob Willcox Putt's Law: bob@vieo.com Technology is dominated by two types of people: Austin, TX Those who understand what they do not manage. Those who manage what they do not understand. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 7:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mediadesign.nl (md2.mediadesign.nl [212.19.205.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE15037B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18921 invoked by uid 1002); 20 Oct 2001 14:57:18 -0000 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 16:57:18 +0200 From: Alson van der Meulen To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple (possibly stupid) question Message-ID: <20011020165717.C29781@md2.mediadesign.nl> Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <01102008243301.00419@c595663-a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01102008243301.00419@c595663-a> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:14:37AM -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > > Hi, > > A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded from 4.2-RELEASE > to 4.4-STABLE and I understand this process quite well now. > > I'm still a newbie at this and this might be a stupid question but.. > > If I've taken the steps here: > > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cvsup.html This only updates the _source_, not the system itself > > ..and I run /usr/local/bin/cvsrun each week, > > do I need to do this: > > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/mw.html > > ..each time, after running cvsrun? It includes updating the source using cvsup (you don't have to do it again if you already cvsup-ed just before), creating make.conf (only need to be done once). Cleaning /usr/obj and runing make buildworld/kernel should be done everytime you want to update your system (no real need to do this every week, I usually do it after some big change I like, f.e. dirpref). If you make your custom kernel, instead of GENERIC, you really have to create this config once (eventually you have to update it when things in the kernel change). The steps really are: cvsup your source, make buildworld/kernel (possibly with custom config), make installworld configuring using make.conf (look in /etc/defaults/make.conf for examples) and the kernel config (/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC and LINT for examples) only has to be done once. Read also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html > > I've read through the handbook/FAQ a bunch of times, searched > the archives and the web and so far, haven't found anything that > confirms this. HTH, Alson -- ,-------------------------------------------. > Name: Alson van der Meulen < > Personal: alson@flutnet.org < > School: alson@gymnasiumleiden.nl < `-------------------------------------------' If I knew it wasn't going to work, I would have tested it sooner. --------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 8: 0:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AF037B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sageone (ppp-208-191-234-242.dialup.crchtx.swbell.net [208.191.234.242]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA08482; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011020100110.01a3cce8@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:01:10 -0500 To: Joe Warner , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: Re: Simple (possibly stupid) question In-Reply-To: <01102008243301.00419@c595663-a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, you don't need to do the make world each time. The cvsup only updates the source files and not the system. I cvsup weekly but only do "world" once a month (unless something ctitical need a fix). The weekly cvsup spreads the time (daily even more) to keep the sources updated. It's then a matter of preference. You can do a bunch of short time updates or a longer one based on when you want to do the update to the actual system.... or some combination thereof.... At 08:14 AM 10.20.2001 -0600, Joe Warner wrote: > >Hi, > >A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded from 4.2-RELEASE >to 4.4-STABLE and I understand this process quite well now. > >I'm still a newbie at this and this might be a stupid question but.. > >If I've taken the steps here: > >http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cvsup.html > >..and I run /usr/local/bin/cvsrun each week, > >do I need to do this: > >http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/mw.html > >..each time, after running cvsrun? > >I've read through the handbook/FAQ a bunch of times, searched >the archives and the web and so far, haven't found anything that >confirms this. > >Thanks > >Joe > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 8:59:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andy.url.com.tw (andy.url.com.tw [210.59.228.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA4B37B407 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3314 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2001 15:53:49 -0000 Received: from apex.url.com.tw (HELO ms34.url.com.tw) ([210.59.228.140]) (envelope-sender ) by andy.url.com.tw (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Oct 2001 15:53:49 -0000 Received: from win20001 ([61.224.131.105]) by AccSMTP/NT 2.5 (210.59.228.84) [210.59.228.84]; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:58:43 +0800 Message-ID: <002b01c15980$4fa5b3b0$6983e03d@win20001> Reply-To: =?big5?B?wemzzaTl?= From: =?big5?B?wemzzaTl?= To: Subject: subscribe Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 00:00:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 9: 8:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com [193.81.94.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998CD37B408 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (8.11.5/8.11.4) id f9KG8mK69916 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:08:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k.joch@kmjeuro.com) Received: from karl (cd62b2bda7c90ebc1187f107a0bcd8a7@adsl.ooe.kmjeuro.com [193.154.186.21]) (authenticated) by sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (8.11.5/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f9KG8gi69783 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:08:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k.joch@kmjeuro.com) Message-ID: <016d01c15982$0251f270$0a05a8c0@ooe.kmjeuro.com> From: "Karl M. Joch" To: Subject: 4.4 + Kapok 8700 Notebook -> pcmcia == panic Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:11:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X--virus-scanner: scanned for Virus and dangerous attachments on sv07e.atm-tzs.kmjeuro.com (System Setup/Maintainance: http://www.ctseuro.com/) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, i updated my notebook which is a P233/128MB (Kapok 8700) to 4.4 from cdrom. i have done a new setup because of some test installations i had on it since a longer time. no i have the problem that booting is impossible. paniks with "fatal trap 12" process swapper. i managed to do a kernel without pcmcia support (via ssh on another box) and now, after transfering that kernel to the hd, i am able to boot again. everything else looks like working fine, but i loosed my network connection (pcmcia card). will send all the details when beeing back from travelling. but if there would be any suggestion it would be great. i still can boot under windows and debian, but i would like to get freebsd with network back (will try to get an older cd set to buy somewhere here. only have 4.4 with me). -- -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 9:12:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFDB37B407 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veager.jwweeks.com ([65.14.122.116]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011020161211.ECFB571.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@veager.jwweeks.com>; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:12:11 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 12:12:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Weeks X-Sender: jim@veager.jwweeks.com To: Joe Warner Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simple (possibly stupid) question In-Reply-To: <01102008243301.00419@c595663-a> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It really isn't a good idea to cvsup untill you are ready to make world. For instance, if you added new hardware or software that requires a new kernel option, you would not be necessarily be able to build a new kernel without making world first. Keeping src and world in dated sync resolves this problem. -- Jim Weeks On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Joe Warner wrote: > > Hi, > > A couple of weeks ago, I upgraded from 4.2-RELEASE > to 4.4-STABLE and I understand this process quite well now. > > I'm still a newbie at this and this might be a stupid question but.. > > If I've taken the steps here: > > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/cvsup.html > > ..and I run /usr/local/bin/cvsrun each week, > > do I need to do this: > > http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/mw.html > > ..each time, after running cvsrun? > > I've read through the handbook/FAQ a bunch of times, searched > the archives and the web and so far, haven't found anything that > confirms this. > > Thanks > > Joe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 14:13: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A8537B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8EF62D01; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Dennis Mathiasen Cc: Subject: RE: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011020141223.B428-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot > > manager with a > > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > > command. > > I've made this mistake as well, but on 4.1. I booted from the normal > install cd and chose custom install. Next chose partition. At the next > screen just type 'q' and the boot manager screen comes up. Choose 'standard > boot manager'. Then quit the install and everything works fine. i tried that both on 'custom' and on 'configure' and it failed to work for me on a 4.3 CDROM. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 14:17: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from warez.scriptkiddie.org (uswest-dsl-142-38.cortland.com [209.162.142.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E3837B405 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.69.11] (unknown [192.168.69.11]) by warez.scriptkiddie.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40AF62D01; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:16:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Lamont Granquist To: Cyrille Lefevre Cc: Darryl Okahata , Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <20011019200745.K3471-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Message-ID: <20011020141340.X428-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > > Default: 0:fd(0,a)/boot/loader > > boot: > > > > you just have to enter : > > > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > > > if that don't work, let's try : > > > > 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > > > > which should work in any case. I tried a lot of guesses and looked for documentation but haven't been able to figure out the right magic incantation to boot my 4.4-RELEASE system like this after interrupting the boot. My / is on da0s2a. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 14:37:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (acs-24-154-28-168.zoominternet.net [24.154.28.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0F37B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topperwein.dyndns.org (topperwein.dyndns.org [192.168.168.10]) by topperwein.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9KLbkO36398 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:37:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from behanna@zbzoom.net) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris BeHanna Reply-To: Chris BeHanna To: FreeBSD-Stable Subject: RE: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20011020173708.L36313-100000@topperwein.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot > > manager with a > > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > > command. (Replying to original): yes, it does, but you have to boot the 2nd CD and enter the fixit shell. -- Chris BeHanna Software Engineer (Remove "bogus" before responding.) behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 14:55:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nipsi.de (dsl-213-023-032-149.arcor-ip.net [213.23.32.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5950237B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 39142 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2001 21:54:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nipsi.de) (172.16.1.3) by nipsi with SMTP; 20 Oct 2001 21:54:04 -0000 Message-ID: <3BD1F2DC.849FC33@nipsi.de> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:55:40 +0200 From: Dennis Berger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lamont Granquist Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? References: <20011020141223.B428-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Dennis Mathiasen wrote: > > > Okay, the difficulty though is that I had clobbered my boot > > > manager with a > > > Win2K install (dual-booting) and the CDROM doesn't give you the boot0cfg > > > command. > > > > I've made this mistake as well, but on 4.1. I booted from the normal > > install cd and chose custom install. Next chose partition. At the next > > screen just type 'q' and the boot manager screen comes up. Choose 'standard > > boot manager'. Then quit the install and everything works fine. try typing "w" instead of "q" ... this works fine for me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 17: 4:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (camus.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B5337B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 83450493 invoked by uid 0); 21 Oct 2001 00:04:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.37]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 21 Oct 2001 00:04:43 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9L04b696901; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 02:04:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <200110210004.f9L04b696901@gits.dyndns.org> Subject: Re: Recovering from clobbered boot manager? In-Reply-To: <20011020141340.X428-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> To: Lamont Granquist Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 02:04:36 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Darryl Okahata , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: clefevre@citeweb.net From: Cyrille Lefevre Organization: ACME X-Face: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL94c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lamont Granquist wrote: > > > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Cyrille Lefevre wrote: > > > >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT > > > Default: 0:fd(0,a)/boot/loader > > > boot: > > > > > > you just have to enter : > > > > > > 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader > > > > > > if that don't work, let's try : > > > > > > 0:ad(0,a)/kernel > > > > > > which should work in any case. > > I tried a lot of guesses and looked for documentation but haven't been > able to figure out the right magic incantation to boot my 4.4-RELEASE > system like this after interrupting the boot. My / is on da0s2a. how many IDE drives have you ? SCSI drives ? considering you only have 1 IDE and 1 SCSI, the magic incantation should be : 1:da(0,a)/boot/loader if you have 2 IDE and 1 SCSI, it should be : 2:da(0,a)/boot/loader etc. also, I've put a home made grub floppy disk here: http://clefevre.citeweb.net/freebsd/grub.flp to use it, boot it, break the autoboot process (don't remember how to do that, but this should be indicated somewhere :), then at the grub prompt, enter : grub> root (hd0,0,a) ^ ^ ^ this represent the BSD slice. | |- this represent the MSDOS partition. |- from here, you can use the key to list the available disks, then partitions, etc. grub> kernel /boot/loader grub> boot for example, I've 4 IDE drives (numbered from 0 to 3) and 4 SCSI drives (numbered from 4 to 7). the bootable one is the first SCSI drive seen by grub, so, I use : root (hd4,0,a) I also have 2 boot partitions on the first IDE drive names (hd0,2,a) and (hd0,3,a). I also put the grub info manual in html format here : http://clefevre.citeweb.net/freebsd/grub.html PS : the /kernel and the /boot/loader located on the floppy are -stable. I've tried to put a -release GENERIC kernel, but it is too big to fit w/ grub... an alternative would be to use the /boot/loader located on the floppy, grub> root (fd0,a) grub> kernel /boot/loader grub> boot and to play w/ lsdev to find the right drive to find the right values to the following variables as needed. currdev="disk5s1a" root_disk_unit="0" rootdev="disk5s1a" (disk5s1a are mine parameters, they probably won't work in your case). as you see, there is plenty of solutions to boot of FreeBSD w/o a right MBR ;^) Cyrille. -- Cyrille Lefevre mailto:clefevre@citeweb.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 17:18:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F4337B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 17:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [144.137.123.82] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id ypgdaaaa for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:17:44 +1000 Message-ID: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:17:57 +1000 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: ICQ with NAT problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I have noticed that icq wont work correctly through a nat gateway (not just freebsd's nat)... There are two major problems, you cant send or recive files, and you constantly go offline/online about every 5 mins or so... I was able to solve the file sending problem by redirecting a range of ports with nat and configuring icq to use them, but the constant disconnecting I have not been able to fix... Looking through the archives of this list there are a few posts on the subject but no real answers, it seems the only way around it has been to use a socks proxy, which I really dont want to do! Some people have said that icq uses udp between the server and client, and because of the time between the packets the socket has been removed form the nat table by the time the next one is sent and it doesnt get through causing you to get disconnected... I have seen something for linux called icq-masq which is a kernel moduel that seems to fix these problems for linux's ip masqurading... Anyway, has anyone solved this problem? or would perhaps be interested in fixing it? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 18:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E6C37B401 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06375; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:13:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD22149.123A2BB6@owt.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:13:45 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: One World Telecommunications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kal Torak wrote: > > Hi, > > I have noticed that icq wont work correctly through a nat > gateway (not just freebsd's nat)... There are two major > problems, you cant send or recive files, and you constantly > go offline/online about every 5 mins or so... What is your ISP's idle disconnect time? I think you or them are timing out. I log on to ICQ and it stays connected for around 8-24 hours. Usually sometime in there my DSL line drops and ICQ has to relogin. Kent > > I was able to solve the file sending problem by redirecting > a range of ports with nat and configuring icq to use them, > but the constant disconnecting I have not been able to fix... > > Looking through the archives of this list there are a few > posts on the subject but no real answers, it seems the only > way around it has been to use a socks proxy, which I really > dont want to do! > > Some people have said that icq uses udp between the server > and client, and because of the time between the packets the > socket has been removed form the nat table by the time the > next one is sent and it doesnt get through causing you to get > disconnected... I have seen something for linux called icq-masq > which is a kernel moduel that seems to fix these problems for > linux's ip masqurading... > > Anyway, has anyone solved this problem? or would perhaps be > interested in fixing it? Anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 18:44:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carbon.btinternet.com (carbon.btinternet.com [194.73.73.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259F137B405 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [213.122.46.195] (helo=laptop) by rhenium with smtp (Exim 3.22 #6) id 15v76y-000066-00; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 02:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: <002701c159cc$fcb44e80$0200000a@intranet> From: "Scott Taggart" To: "Kal Torak" , References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 02:09:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ICQ works fine with me. I'm running normal ICQ on windows going through a natd gateway on my FreeBSD 4.4 machine to the internet, I experience no disconnections whatsoever No... file transfers don't seem to work through ICQ over nat but let's face it.... that isn't really a loss is it ;-) Rgds. Scott Taggart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kal Torak" To: "FreeBSD Stable" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:17 AM Subject: ICQ with NAT problems > Hi, > > I have noticed that icq wont work correctly through a nat > gateway (not just freebsd's nat)... There are two major > problems, you cant send or recive files, and you constantly > go offline/online about every 5 mins or so... > > I was able to solve the file sending problem by redirecting > a range of ports with nat and configuring icq to use them, > but the constant disconnecting I have not been able to fix... > > Looking through the archives of this list there are a few > posts on the subject but no real answers, it seems the only > way around it has been to use a socks proxy, which I really > dont want to do! > > Some people have said that icq uses udp between the server > and client, and because of the time between the packets the > socket has been removed form the nat table by the time the > next one is sent and it doesnt get through causing you to get > disconnected... I have seen something for linux called icq-masq > which is a kernel moduel that seems to fix these problems for > linux's ip masqurading... > > Anyway, has anyone solved this problem? or would perhaps be > interested in fixing it? Anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 19:10:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (pi.yip.org [199.45.111.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850E937B405 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9L28Nj69153; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:08:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:08:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K To: Scott Taggart Cc: Kal Torak , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems In-Reply-To: <002701c159cc$fcb44e80$0200000a@intranet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Assuming the information at http://www.icq.com/icqtour/firewall/netadmin.html and http://www.icq.com/icqtour/firewall/#configure is accurate, you need to do the following: - On the box running NAT, you need to start natd with the following flag: redirect_port tcp : where is the machine running icq and is some port between 1024 and 65535. I'd suggest -not- using 1080, 31337, 27374, or 12345 for these, unless you want to show up in script kiddie scans. - On the box running icq, there should be some sort of firewall setup screen. Choose the option, "I have no Socks.x Proxy server but I have a range of listening ports I can use." and insert the value of there. Do note that this will mean that someone attempting to connect to TCP on the firewall will be forwarded to the machine whether it's an ICQ connection or not, and also that this is completely off-topic for -stable - I'm sure Mirabilis has help forums for exactly this sort of question. On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Scott Taggart wrote: > ICQ works fine with me. I'm running normal ICQ on windows going through a > natd gateway on my FreeBSD 4.4 machine to the internet, I experience no > disconnections whatsoever > > No... file transfers don't seem to work through ICQ over nat but let's face > it.... that isn't really a loss is it ;-) > > Rgds. > Scott Taggart > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kal Torak" > To: "FreeBSD Stable" > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 1:17 AM > Subject: ICQ with NAT problems > > > > Hi, > > > > I have noticed that icq wont work correctly through a nat > > gateway (not just freebsd's nat)... There are two major > > problems, you cant send or recive files, and you constantly > > go offline/online about every 5 mins or so... > > > > I was able to solve the file sending problem by redirecting > > a range of ports with nat and configuring icq to use them, > > but the constant disconnecting I have not been able to fix... > > > > Looking through the archives of this list there are a few > > posts on the subject but no real answers, it seems the only > > way around it has been to use a socks proxy, which I really > > dont want to do! > > > > Some people have said that icq uses udp between the server > > and client, and because of the time between the packets the > > socket has been removed form the nat table by the time the > > next one is sent and it doesnt get through causing you to get > > disconnected... I have seen something for linux called icq-masq > > which is a kernel moduel that seems to fix these problems for > > linux's ip masqurading... > > > > Anyway, has anyone solved this problem? or would perhaps be > > interested in fixing it? Anyone have any ideas? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Bob | We're all wrong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 21:48:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F358E37B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [144.137.123.82] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id irgdaaaa for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:48:02 +1000 Message-ID: <3BD2538D.80604@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 14:48:13 +1000 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the replies, but let me make it clear what I am saying.. There is a problem with NAT and ICQ that causes you to go offline/online constantly, you probably wont notice this your self if you have a high speed connection, but trust me its happining!!! (check from another icq client running on a different connection and you will see your self going on and off if you dont belive me) Yes you can solve this with a socks proxy but I DONT want to use one! I want to solve it wiht NAT... icq-masq is a kernel moduel for linux which solves this problem, whats needed is to see what is causing the problem and write something to fix it like the linux icq-masq... Perhaps you could redirect udp connections to a certain port to one machine and it could use icq ok, but this would stop other systems using it! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 22:30:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rfnj.org (rfnj.org [216.239.237.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8F237B405 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from megalomaniac.biosys.net (megalomaniac.rfnj.org [216.239.237.200]) by rfnj.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC051367B; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:31:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011021012339.00b2b3a8@rfnj.org> X-Sender: asym@rfnj.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:32:13 -0400 To: Kal Torak , FreeBSD Stable From: Allen Landsidel Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems In-Reply-To: <3BD2538D.80604@quake.com.au> References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:48 PM 10/21/2001 +1000, Kal Torak wrote: >Thanks for the replies, but let me make it clear what I >am saying.. I read your problem.. now let me state that you are mistaken. ICQ does not operate this way. Let me elaborate: The first thing ICQ does is create a connection to the server. This is an outgoing connection to TCP port 5190 on login.icq.com. After this, it opens listening TCP ports in the (default) range of 1024-65535. These are used only for client-client communications. UDP is not involved anywhere. I know the "dumb" FAQ for ICQ still says that, but the detailed FAQ @ http://www.icq.com/icqtour/firewall/netadmin.html makes no mention of it. So, you have two options. #1 Run a Socks proxy. You have said you (for whatever reason, it's really not a bad idea) don't want to do this. #2 Configure ICQ to use a certain range of listening TCP ports. Use a different port range on each machine that will be running ICQ, and configure NAT to forward connections to these ports appropriately. I've done both things on connections from a T1 all the way down to 28.8kbps multiuser modem connection, and they work fine.. I really would suggest the proxy though, they exist to solve just such problems.. trying other methods is really a bit like trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole; You're behind NAT, and you have to deal with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 22:40:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C2C37B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [144.137.123.82] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id nrgdaaaa for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:39:33 +1000 Message-ID: <3BD25FA0.5050107@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:39:44 +1000 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen Landsidel Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> <5.1.0.14.0.20011021012339.00b2b3a8@rfnj.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Allen Landsidel wrote: > > I read your problem.. now let me state that you are mistaken. > > ICQ does not operate this way. > > Let me elaborate: > > The first thing ICQ does is create a connection to the server. This is > an outgoing connection to TCP port 5190 on login.icq.com. > > After this, it opens listening TCP ports in the (default) range of > 1024-65535. These are used only for client-client communications. Hmmm yes so it seems... Perhaps this is only with newer versions of icq client and thats why other people have not noticed this problem! Because my client connects to port 4000 on icq.mirabilis.com when it first logs in and it seems to use udp! The same seemed true for licq as well when I was using it... Maybe that has all changed now? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 22:44:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rfnj.org (rfnj.org [216.239.237.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076EF37B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from megalomaniac.biosys.net (megalomaniac.rfnj.org [216.239.237.200]) by rfnj.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EE41367B; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:45:46 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011021014504.00b23c60@rfnj.org> X-Sender: asym@rfnj.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 01:46:37 -0400 To: Kal Torak From: Allen Landsidel Subject: Re: ICQ with NAT problems Cc: FreeBSD Stable In-Reply-To: <3BD25FA0.5050107@quake.com.au> References: <3BD21435.4060605@quake.com.au> <5.1.0.14.0.20011021012339.00b2b3a8@rfnj.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 03:39 PM 10/21/2001 +1000, Kal Torak wrote: >Hmmm yes so it seems... > >Perhaps this is only with newer versions of icq client and thats why >other people have not noticed this problem! Could be, but I've used the port-forwarding method before with older versions (99a) and don't recall seeing a drop off problem, even with the 28.8. I remember sending/receiving files being a hassle, but that's not as big a deal. >Because my client connects to port 4000 on icq.mirabilis.com when it >first logs in and it seems to use udp! > >The same seemed true for licq as well when I was using it... Maybe that >has all changed now? I'd say either use the newest official client, or bitch at the licq author to update his/her program. ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Oct 20 23:18:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ecibsd1.eldocomp.com (ecibsd1.eldocomp.com [205.159.99.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4BB37B403 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chad@localhost) by ecibsd1.eldocomp.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f9L69GC22338 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:09:16 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:09:16 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: pathname length over NFS Message-ID: <20011020230916.A22304@ecibsd1.eldocomp.com> Reply-To: "Chad R. Larson" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a system running 4.3-RELEASE-p20 and another machine freshly installed from the 4.3-RELEASE CD. I want to do the classic export src and obj and then do an installworld over the NFS mount. It fails early on with an "errno 71". The system message for error number 71 is: Too many levels of remote in path Here's the command that fails: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ===> lib/libcom_err cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_err.h /usr/include cd /usr/src/lib/libcom_err && install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libcom_err/../../contrib/com_err/com_right.h /usr/include install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err.a /usr/lib install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libcom_err_p.a /usr/lib *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/lib/libcom_err. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= If I cd to "/usr/src/lib/libcom_err" and type either of those first two install commands by hand I get the same failure. Here's the contents of "/etc/exports" on the server: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= # # $ID:$ # NFS exported filesystems # /usr/src -ro -maproot=0:0 eciweb1 /scratch/obj -ro -maproot=0:0 eciweb1 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The mount commands on the client were: mount -r -t nfs ecibsd1:/usr/scr /usr/src mount -r -t nfs ecibsd1:/scratch/obj /usr/obj So, how does one increase the depth allowed in a remote path? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) chad@eldocomp.com Eldorado Computing, Inc. 602-604-3100 5353 North 16th Street, Suite 400 Phoenix, Arizona 85016-3228 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message