From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 2:40:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E196737B402 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g1OAe9c99245; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:40:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1OAc8Yd057474; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:38:09 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1OAc8A68518; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:38:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:38:07 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Message-ID: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 01:52:09AM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > My -CURRENT from 1 1/2 days ago suffers lockups. Three so far, > nicely spread out. For the last one, I had a serial console hooked > up. No panic, the box just locks up. Is a ps in ddb possible? -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 5:39:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5686A37B402 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 05:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16eysL-0008EH-01; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:39:37 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1ODcbdk000545 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:38:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1ODcaQl000544 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:38:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:38:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > Is a ps in ddb possible? No. Total lockup, I can't break into ddb. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 5:39:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3373737B400 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 05:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16eysL-0008EH-00; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:39:37 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1OCYKaP013878 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:34:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1OCYKnV013877 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:34:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > Is a ps in ddb possible? I didn't have BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER compiled in. I'm waiting for the next lockup now. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 6: 3:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72E837B400 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 06:03:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g1OE3Y612250; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:03:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1OE2pYd058816; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:02:51 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1OE2o469010; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:02:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:02:50 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Message-ID: <20020224140250.GG64936@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 01:38:36PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > > Is a ps in ddb possible? > > No. Total lockup, I can't break into ddb. If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel image to find out which code the pc is. I typicaly do objdump -S on kernel.debug. With 'examine -gpr -n 1f 0' you can get at the registers after halt. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 8:32:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from victory.quay.net (gateway.quay.net [216.187.106.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C337437B404 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 08:32:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from quay.net (localhost.pier.quay.net [127.0.0.1]) by victory.quay.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 29FEC5D11 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 216.187.107.78 (SquirrelMail authenticated user amckay) by secure.quay.net with HTTP; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1247.216.187.107.78.1014568346.squirrel@secure.quay.net> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?most_stable_*N*X_for_alpha=3F?= From: "Alan McKay" To: Reply-To: amckay@ottawa.com X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [rc2]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, No offense to the folks putting their hard work into this project, but I"m finding FreeBSD/alpha to be pretty buggy. (4.4 release as well as 4.5 release, though 4.4. seemed a bit better). Especially compared to my FreeBSD/intel server. I'm wondering if there is perhaps a Linux distro for alpha that is known for stability. My main use will be to use the alpha box as an xterm to display stuff running from my FreeBSD/intel server. thanks, -Alan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 9:30:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A19837B405 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16f2Tw-0002WB-00; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 18:30:40 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1OGqL8b002871 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1OGqLQN002870 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 16:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> <20020224140250.GG64936@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel image > to find out which code the pc is. lockmgr+0x844 I'm at a loss how to proceed from there. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 9:51:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9AA37B416 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1OHkmW08462; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:46:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:46:48 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Alan McKay Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: most stable *N*X for alpha? Message-ID: <20020224094648.B8403@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <1247.216.187.107.78.1014568346.squirrel@secure.quay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1247.216.187.107.78.1014568346.squirrel@secure.quay.net>; from amckay@ottawa.com on Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 11:32:26AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > No offense to the folks putting their hard work into this project, > but I"m finding FreeBSD/alpha to be pretty buggy. (4.4 release > as well as 4.5 release, though 4.4. seemed a bit better). What bugs have you seen? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 10:10:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A674037B417 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g1OIAGf14900; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:10:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1OI9pYd060371; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:09:51 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1OI9oF69550; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:09:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:09:50 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Message-ID: <20020224180950.GA69066@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20020224103807.GA64936@cicely8.cicely.de> <20020224140250.GG64936@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 04:52:21PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > > If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel image > > to find out which code the pc is. > > lockmgr+0x844 > I'm at a loss how to proceed from there. If it's realy with a lockmgr lock you should enable debugging for it: options KTR options KTR_EXTEND options KTR_ENTRIES=1024 options KTR_COMPILE="(KTR_LOCKMGR)" options KTR_MASK=KTR_LOCKMGR options KTR_CPUMASK=0x3 options KTR_VERBOSE In case it's to chatty on booting you can set KTR_MASK to 0 and enable it later with sysctl debug.ktr.mask=0x00020000. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 14: 3: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B404137B402 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from shakira.fi.infn.it (shakira.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.13]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1OM2TdA057013 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:02:40 +0100 (CET) X-RAV-AntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses on host: postino.fi.infn.it From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C88CB36D81; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:02:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBCD30C01 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:02:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:02:27 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: fddi@shakira.fi.infn.it To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/ports/security/cfs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, this port have a lot of unaligned access messages. What is the standard way to proceed in this case in which the application is not a distribution program but it is a port collection program? I imagine contact the port mantainer. is it correct? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 14:42:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14E837B421 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0039.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.39] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16f7LN-0002Di-00; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:42:09 -0800 Message-ID: <3C796C34.8D1A42A6@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:41:56 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/ports/security/cfs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > this port have a lot of unaligned access messages. > What is the standard way to proceed in this case in which the application > is not a distribution program but it is a port collection program? > I imagine contact the port mantainer. > is it correct? Nope. You fix the alignment problems, and then send them to the port maintainer, who probably doesn't own an Alpha machine, and then they include them as the patches. Ideally, as a port, the patches then get sent back to the maintainers of the original code, and they disappear from the port the next time it's updated (_that_ part is done by the maintainer, as well as the initial FreeBSD portability, which doesn't include things like 64 bit cleanliness or the architecture specific changes within an OS, unless the port maintainer has the time and equipment). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 19:30:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9392937B417 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16fBqh-00088W-00; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 04:30:47 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1P2r70g000562 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:53:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1P2r72f000561 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:53:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 02:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20020224140250.GG64936@cicely8.cicely.de> <20020224180950.GA69066@cicely8.cicely.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bernd Walter wrote: > If it's realy with a lockmgr lock you should enable debugging for it: > options KTR > options KTR_EXTEND > options KTR_ENTRIES=1024 > options KTR_COMPILE="(KTR_LOCKMGR)" > options KTR_MASK=KTR_LOCKMGR > options KTR_CPUMASK=0x3 > options KTR_VERBOSE This doesn't seem realistic. Just how often is lockmgr() called? > In case it's to chatty on booting you can set KTR_MASK to 0 and enable > it later with sysctl debug.ktr.mask=0x00020000. Well, after an hour the boot hasn't gone anywhere. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 24 23:42:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gnah.bolet.org (gnah.bolet.org [80.65.226.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C970A37B400 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2002 23:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pornin@localhost) by gnah.bolet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1P7fvp29475; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:41:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pornin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:41:56 +0100 From: Thomas Pornin To: Alan McKay Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: most stable *N*X for alpha? Message-ID: <20020225084156.A29431@gnah.bolet.org> References: <1247.216.187.107.78.1014568346.squirrel@secure.quay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <1247.216.187.107.78.1014568346.squirrel@secure.quay.net>; from amckay@ottawa.com on Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 11:32:26AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 11:32:26AM -0500, Alan McKay wrote: > I'm wondering if there is perhaps a Linux distro for alpha that is > known for stability. My main use will be to use the alpha box as an > xterm to display stuff running from my FreeBSD/intel server. I have used an Alpha machine from 1998 to 2001 as a workstation, and I tried several OS. The setup included NFS-mount of home directories (from Sun Solaris servers) and NIS passwords. In my experience: -- Linux is and has always been a bit flaky on Alpha hardware. Some code (for instance NFS, until late versions of NFSv3 support in Linux) was not 64-bit clean, and the filesystems were not reliable (there was some problem of power supply in the building, which induced some power losses and subsequent fsck -- Linux fsck is slow and unreliable). Redhat 5.2 and 6.2 releases proved to be mostly usable. 6.0 was not. -- NetBSD/Alpha runs well but, at that time, lacked some hardware support (floppy disk, for instance). -- OpenBSD/Alpha, at that time, lacked shared libraries, which made it a non-option. I hear shared libraries are now supported in the latest OpenBSD/Alpha, so this may be an option worth investigating. I guess it will be quite comparable with NetBSD. -- FreeBSD, beginning with 4.2, proved to be the most stable and effective OS on this station (I tried several 4.x, including a very early 4.0-CURRENT snapshot). I still use FreeBSD on my own Alpha machine at home (it is my firewall / mail server). Note that XFree has some problems, that are common to both Linux and FreeBSD: sometimes, launching XFree freezes the machine and a cold-reboot is necessary. Once XFree has ran succesfully, it will not crash the machine until the next cold reboot. Some tricky PCI stuff I believe. If you have the money, you might try Tru64 (formerly known as OSF/1). It is a bit crude in some respects, and uses quite some RAM, but it is also rock solid. (All this is of course my own opinion, which is worth a lot in my reckoning but maybe not in your own vision of reality.) --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 1: 9:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gnah.bolet.org (gnah.bolet.org [80.65.226.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2CB37B404 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 01:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pornin@localhost) by gnah.bolet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1P99Ut29910 for alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:09:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pornin) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 10:09:29 +0100 From: Thomas Pornin To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: problem with send-pr Message-ID: <20020225100928.A29873@gnah.bolet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I tried to send a problem report with send-pr, but send-pr told me that I needed a `Category:' field in my report. My report did include such a field (with either `bin' or `conf'), and I tried on a 4.5-PRERELEASE Alpha and a 4.5-STABLE i386. For obvious reasons, I cannot use send-pr to report that send-pr is not working. I sent the report anyway, but I don't know if it was accepted. Are problem reports acknowledged ? How long must I wait before I can consider the PR as lost ? (I admit the PR was not strictly alpha-related; I am using this list because it is the one FreeBSD list I am subscribed to.) --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 3:18:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804B137B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from shakira.fi.infn.it (shakira.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.13]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1PBGedA064844 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:16:40 +0100 (CET) X-RAV-AntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses on host: postino.fi.infn.it From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2DCA36D81; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB7030C01 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:16:39 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: fddi@shakira.fi.infn.it To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XP1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am about to sell my DPW500a which is working great with FreeBSD 4.5 and never gave me a problem, and I Will change it with a XP1000. Anyone have some warning to give me about XP1000? Should it work at least as a DPW ? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 3:28:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E381A37B404 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12775 invoked by uid 11053); 25 Feb 2002 11:28:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 11:28:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:28:46 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Problems booting freebsd-alpha-4.5 from IDE on PC164 Message-ID: <20020225132247.U59392-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm having trouble booting freebsd-alpha-4.5 from IDE on a PC164 using the integrated IDE controller. I was able to boot from a floppy and install just fine, but when I try to boot the installed system it just says: -cut- jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader Can't open file /boot/loader halted CPU 0 -cut- What I tried last was that I wrote the boot.flp to the drive directly and tried to boot, but results were the same. Has anyone had similar problems or is anyone booting from IDE on a PC164? -jake -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/jake/ System Administrator Cell. +358 40 720 4512 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 3:54:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E6737B400 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 03:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g1PBsOL29242; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:54:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1PBp1Yd069976; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:51:01 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1PBoxq72187; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:50:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:50:59 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Message-ID: <20020225115058.GB72127@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20020224140250.GG64936@cicely8.cicely.de> <20020224180950.GA69066@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:53:07AM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > > > If it's realy with a lockmgr lock you should enable debugging for it: > > options KTR > > options KTR_EXTEND > > options KTR_ENTRIES=1024 > > options KTR_COMPILE="(KTR_LOCKMGR)" > > options KTR_MASK=KTR_LOCKMGR > > options KTR_CPUMASK=0x3 > > options KTR_VERBOSE > > This doesn't seem realistic. Just how often is lockmgr() called? > > > In case it's to chatty on booting you can set KTR_MASK to 0 and enable > > it later with sysctl debug.ktr.mask=0x00020000. > > Well, after an hour the boot hasn't gone anywhere. Sorry - I should have known. The vebose output slows things to much down. Usually one would disable verboseity and check the buffer from ddb. I have no idea about how difficult it is to read the buffer from srm. Interestingly I had two full hangs with my noname yesterday. SCSI channel was active but the box did not even react on the halt button. All I did was an installworld on a local disc with src and obj on nfs. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 5:55:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F9E637B41C for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 05:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14193 invoked by uid 11053); 25 Feb 2002 13:55:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 13:55:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:55:23 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems booting freebsd-alpha-4.5 from IDE on PC164 In-Reply-To: <20020225132247.U59392-100000@trillian.santala.org> Message-ID: <20020225154934.L59392-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Jarkko Santala wrote: > I'm having trouble booting freebsd-alpha-4.5 from IDE on a PC164 using the > integrated IDE controller. Just as a clarification, since I'm getting many replies asking the same, I am able to boot and run NetBSD from the IDE just fine. This is why I think there must be something wrong with FreeBSD. I wouldn't ask if I was uncertain whether the hardware works or if SRM can boot from IDE. -jake -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/jake/ System Administrator Cell. +358 40 720 4512 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 6: 1:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.registeredsite.com (mail5.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A1037B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 06:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.optima-hyper.com ([216.2.34.221]) by mail5.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1PD9Wm07436 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:09:32 -0500 Received: from optima-hyper.com [216.2.34.221] by mail.optima-hyper.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A39D3FF50284; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:01:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3C7A43BC.C0D5C1B4@optima-hyper.com> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 09:01:32 -0500 From: Yuri Victorovich Reply-To: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have brand new install from internet on AS1000A. On boot the following log appears. I know people were having this problem before, but I couldn't find a solution in this list archive. Thanx, Yuri. ===================================== [.....] CPU 0 booting (boot dka0.0.0.2000.0 -flags 0,0) block 0 of dka0.0.0.2000.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dka0.0.0.2000.0 bootstrap code read in Building FRU table FRU table size = 0x856 base = 1cc000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at ffd0000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader halted CPU 0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = 0 boot failure To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 13:53:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA80637B422 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07816; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1PLqiH01921; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:52:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.45612.227418.191162@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:52:44 -0500 (EST) To: Jarkko Santala Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems booting freebsd-alpha-4.5 from IDE on PC164 In-Reply-To: <20020225132247.U59392-100000@trillian.santala.org> References: <20020225132247.U59392-100000@trillian.santala.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You probably didn't put your root partition (a) first on the disk. You need to re-install and make your root partition be first on the disk. Drew Eg, you want it to look something like this: # disklabel /dev/ad2 Password: # /dev/ad2: type: ESDI disk: ad0 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 5005 sectors/unit: 80418240 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1048576 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 65*) b: 4194304 1048576 swap # (Cyl. 65*-326*) c: 80418240 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 -5005*) e: 6291456 5242880 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 326*-717*) f: 16777216 11534336 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 717*-1762*) g: 37748736 28311552 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 1762*-4112*) h: 14357952 66060288 4.2BSD 1024 8192 16 # (Cyl. 4112*-5005*) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 13:56: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B145737B417 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07910; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1PLtYr01932; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:55:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.45782.212492.612054@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:55:34 -0500 (EST) To: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: <3C7A43BC.C0D5C1B4@optima-hyper.com> References: <3C7A43BC.C0D5C1B4@optima-hyper.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuri Victorovich writes: > I have brand new install from internet on AS1000A. > On boot the following log appears. You've omitted several critical bits of info which might allow people to answer your question. a) what version of FreeBSD are you using b) what media are you attempting to boot from I'm going to guess you've just successfully installed and can't boot off the disk. Did you put your root partition in "a" and make that the first parition on the disk? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 14: 0:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from schottky.phys.ksu.edu (schottky.phys.ksu.edu [129.130.5.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58EB037B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17 invoked by uid 962); 25 Feb 2002 22:00:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 22:00:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:00:42 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Casey To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XP1000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have 6 xp1000 boxes, all running 4.3-R. I have no problems and nless something has changed for the worse in 4.4-4.5 I would thing you would be ok. The ones here run the linux compaq fortran compiler/binaries and chug along pretty happily. On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > Hello, > I am about to sell my DPW500a which is working great with FreeBSD 4.5 and > never gave me a problem, and I Will change it with a XP1000. > Anyone have some warning to give me about XP1000? Should it work at least > as a DPW ? > thanks > > Rick > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > Chris Casey Unix System Administrator KSU Physics Department (785) 532-6810 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 14:39:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.registeredsite.com (mail4.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E7B37B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.optima-hyper.com ([216.2.34.221]) by mail4.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1PLiH205878; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:44:17 -0500 Received: from hqwkst77 [216.2.34.221] by mail.optima-hyper.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD0D45A60278; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:39:09 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Yuri Victorovich" To: "'Andrew Gallatin'" Cc: Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You've omitted several critical bits of info which might allow people > to answer your question. > a) what version of FreeBSD are you using > b) what media are you attempting to boot from FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE. Installed purely from boot floppy and ftp.FreeBSD.org. I am booting from the first SCSI HD. It's one more SCSI drive installed. Installation went w/out any problems. > I'm going to guess you've just successfully installed and can't boot > off the disk. Did you put your root partition in "a" and make that > the first parition on the disk? Yes, "a" is the only partition. Fist slice there -- swap, second -- "/". e sp gives: 1E ( R30) 0000000020044000 e ra gives: 1A ( R26) 0000000020000E24. The last one as I understand is return address of the procedure that crashed (?). I booted the system from CDROM and than manually booted from HD -- no problem. So only /boot/loader is a problem. I guess the next step I will do -- will build debug version of loader and will figure out the place in code. Yuri. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 16: 1: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD76437B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1Q00tB39332; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:00:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:00:55 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Yuri Victorovich Cc: "'Andrew Gallatin'" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A Message-ID: <20020225160055.A39273@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com on Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 05:49:49PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 05:49:49PM -0500, Yuri Victorovich wrote: > > I'm going to guess you've just successfully installed and can't boot > > off the disk. Did you put your root partition in "a" and make that > > the first parition on the disk? > Yes, "a" is the only partition. Fist slice there -- swap, second -- "/". ??? The Alpha does not have slices -- only Proper BSD Partitions. Can you describe your disk labeling again? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 16:15:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF5237B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12248; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:15:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1Q0Erx02143; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:14:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:14:53 -0500 (EST) To: Cc: Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuri Victorovich writes: > > You've omitted several critical bits of info which might allow people > > to answer your question. > > a) what version of FreeBSD are you using > > b) what media are you attempting to boot from > FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE. Installed purely from boot floppy and ftp.FreeBSD.org. > I am booting from the first SCSI HD. It's one more SCSI drive installed. > Installation went w/out any problems. > > > I'm going to guess you've just successfully installed and can't boot > > off the disk. Did you put your root partition in "a" and make that > > the first parition on the disk? > Yes, "a" is the only partition. Fist slice there -- swap, second -- "/". This is your problem:---------------------------------^^^^^ / MUST BE FIRST. You cannot & must not use slicese, only real BSD partition. This really needs to be emphasized somewhere in a FAQ. Lots of people make the same mistake you did. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 16:19:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postal.blacksun.org (postal.blacksun.org [216.254.108.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838437B405 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from calis.blacksun.org (unknown [216.254.108.150]) by postal.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FDF71641; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:32:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:30:30 -0500 (EST) From: Don To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > / MUST BE FIRST. Is there any reason you would not put / first? I have actually never seen it done any other way. -Don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 16:30:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6C437B400 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12622; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1Q0UKY02169; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:30:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.55068.46909.186867@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:30:20 -0500 (EST) To: Don Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don writes: > > / MUST BE FIRST. > Is there any reason you would not put / first? > > I have actually never seen it done any other way. > > -Don I'd never consider doing it any other way, either. However, some people put swap first on the theory that the logical beginning of the disk is faster & they want swap to be quick. In fact, I think that may be why swap is traditionally second in a BSD layout. We could probably fix the loader to be able to read the partition table and figure out where / is, but I'm certainly not motivated to invest any time in making such a change. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 16:41:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD9B37B404 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12876; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1Q0f5o02191; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:41:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.55713.882795.291333@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:41:05 -0500 (EST) To: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: <3C7AD869.343872B9@optima-hyper.com> References: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3C7AD869.343872B9@optima-hyper.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuri Victorovich writes: > > > Yes, "a" is the only partition. Fist slice there -- swap, second -- "/". > > > > This is your problem:---------------------------------^^^^^ > > > > / MUST BE FIRST. > > > > You cannot & must not use slicese, only real BSD partition. > > I figured that out already. > I didn't know that -- it wasn't anywhere in docs I read and > isn't obvious. > > And also that's strange at least. Why / should be the first > on Alpha and shouldn't on i386? Because the alpha bootloader was written by people who had never considered putting / anywhere but first. If you'd like to make the bootloader smart enough to handle reading the disklabel and finding the root partition, we'd be very happy to accept patches. In any case, I'm very glad you've got your machine installed! Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 17:14: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109C537B400 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g1Q1CkF27619 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:42:46 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:43:45 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id LAA25928 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:36:45 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FJ3HJN9W; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:36:44 +1030 Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:30:45 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Dual booting Alpha 500au Message-ID: <20020226112539.B36952-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, I am just wondering if it would be possible to dual boot an Alpha 500au with Tru64 Unix and FreeBSD ? Are the OSs booted from the SRM or a bootloader (such like boot0 in FreeBSD) on Alpha Machines? In fact can anyone point me to a resource that explains the boot process of and Alpha. ie does all booting occur via the SRM ? Thanks - Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 17:23:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9785937B41D for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13905; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1Q1Mao05158; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:22:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15482.58204.795303.62715@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:22:36 -0500 (EST) To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual booting Alpha 500au In-Reply-To: <20020226112539.B36952-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <20020226112539.B36952-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilkinson,Alex writes: > Howdy, > > I am just wondering if it would be possible to dual boot an Alpha 500au > with Tru64 Unix and FreeBSD ? Yes, if you have multiple disks. (1 per OS) > Are the OSs booted from the SRM or a bootloader (such like boot0 in FreeBSD) > on Alpha Machines? The SRM loads a tiny first stage bootloader, which then loads /boot/loader. > In fact can anyone point me to a resource that explains the boot process of > and Alpha. ie does all booting occur via the SRM ? The "brown book" (Alpha Architecture Reference Manual by the Alpha Arch. Committe, 3rd edition). Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 19:25:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5E037B402 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1Q3PnV69692; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:25:49 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A Message-ID: <20020225192549.A69622@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:14:53PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:14:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > You cannot & must not use slicese, only real BSD partition. > > This really needs to be emphasized somewhere in a FAQ. Lots of people > make the same mistake you did. How are people using slices? I don't know of any of our tools that allow this. So I am not sure how people believe they are using slices (or are using them). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 20:20:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1954437B402; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.sympatico.ca ([65.94.236.210]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020226035616.TSVG10641.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca>; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:56:16 -0500 From: yvanoe SUBJECT: Project Analyzer is a program. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_018D8514.22951400" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020226035616.TSVG10641.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@smtp1.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:56:23 -0500 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_018D8514.22951400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are the main benefits? Project Analyzer makes a full code review. It suggests and performs numerous code improvements, leading to faster and smaller programs and enforcing adherence to programming standards. 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The available documents include graphical representations of program structure, commented source code listings and various reports such as file dependencies. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_018D8514.22951400 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="tasks.exe" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tasks.exe" ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_018D8514.22951400-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 25 23:10:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D322F37B42C for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9583 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 07:09:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([65.90.117.19]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Feb 2002 07:09:59 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:10:00 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24-Feb-02 Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Bernd Walter wrote: > >> If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel image >> to find out which code the pc is. > > lockmgr+0x844 > I'm at a loss how to proceed from there. Humm, I'm seeing problems with preemption that I didn't see in my testing prior to commit. *sigh* Probably have to turn it back off again. Grrr, this is frustrating. Anyways, can you pull up gdb on your kernel.debug then do 'l lockmgr+0x844' to get the source line for that? > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 0:17:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta07.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta07.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E1E37B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:17:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20020225064724.NOYW4878.mta03.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au> for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:47:24 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020225174447.01c23170@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:45:52 +1100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Rob B Subject: DPT 3224 RAID controller supported? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the DPT 3224 Raid controller supported on Alpha under FreeBSD? Cheers, Rob -- Slang is language that takes off its coat, spits on its hands, and goes to work [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 893 of a collection of 1204 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 2:58:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.JP [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE0A37B404 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 02:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g1QAwTI56757 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:58:31 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200202261058.g1QAwTI56757@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: to burn iso Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:58:28 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am going to write 4.5-mini.iso for one of my friends. I do not much about burning CDR. This may not be the place to ask this question, but what is the simplest command to burn this image to CDR? Thanks in advance. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 5:30:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD18537B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16fhgW-0008Nl-01; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:30:24 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1QCvS0g062172 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:57:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1QCvSCg062171 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:57:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: -CURRENT: OSF/1 emu breakage? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I notice a suspicious new inability of setiathome on my FreeBSD/alpha to fetch new work units. (No, it's not a server problem.) Netscape 4.78/OSF1 still works, though. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 5:30:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8B537B404 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16fhgW-0008Nl-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:30:24 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1QCeR0g061729 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:40:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1QCeRDc061728 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:40:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > Anyways, can you pull up gdb on your kernel.debug > then do 'l lockmgr+0x844' to get the source line for that? gdb is broken. It seems to get caught into an infinite loop on startup. It continues to eat CPU but never proceeds to a prompt. I guess that's fallout from the new binutils. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 5:54: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D82337B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:53:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29062; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1QDrQF06958; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:53:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15483.37718.727882.220671@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:53:26 -0500 (EST) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > John Baldwin wrote: > > > Anyways, can you pull up gdb on your kernel.debug > > then do 'l lockmgr+0x844' to get the source line for that? > > gdb is broken. It seems to get caught into an infinite loop on > startup. It continues to eat CPU but never proceeds to a prompt. > I guess that's fallout from the new binutils. Yes. There are 2 workarounds. One is to use a /usr/libexec/elf/gdb from -stable (or -current pre-binutils). The other is to rebuild gdb with a patch that breaks buildworld. Patch below. The problem is that xmalloc() and xrealloc() are multiply defined and the rtld keeps looking them up in shared libs, getting confused, and looking them up again, etc. Drew Index: xmalloc.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/binutils/libiberty/xmalloc.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.5 diff -u -r1.1.1.5 xmalloc.c --- xmalloc.c 27 Jan 2002 11:59:59 -0000 1.1.1.5 +++ xmalloc.c 18 Feb 2002 19:46:55 -0000 @@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ #endif /* HAVE_SBRK */ xexit (1); } - +#if 0 PTR xmalloc (size) size_t size; @@ -146,7 +146,7 @@ return (newmem); } - +#endif PTR xcalloc (nelem, elsize) size_t nelem, elsize; @@ -163,6 +163,7 @@ return (newmem); } +#if 0 PTR xrealloc (oldmem, size) PTR oldmem; @@ -181,3 +182,4 @@ return (newmem); } +#endif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 5:56:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085D137B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29118; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1QDtav06966; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:55:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15483.37848.566912.531072@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:55:36 -0500 (EST) To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -CURRENT: OSF/1 emu breakage? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > I notice a suspicious new inability of setiathome on my FreeBSD/alpha > to fetch new work units. (No, it's not a server problem.) Perhaps you could narrow things down further using ktrace/osf1_kdump? (http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/osf1_kdump) > Netscape 4.78/OSF1 still works, though. That's good. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 6:24: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED13237B405; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29954; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1QENWM07028; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:23:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15483.39524.15540.261323@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:23:32 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A In-Reply-To: <20020225192549.A69622@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <15482.54141.628252.60192@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20020225192549.A69622@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:14:53PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > You cannot & must not use slicese, only real BSD partition. > > > > This really needs to be emphasized somewhere in a FAQ. Lots of people > > make the same mistake you did. > > How are people using slices? I don't know of any of our tools that allow > this. So I am not sure how people believe they are using slices (or are > using them). People may not be using slices (not sure how sysinstall reacts to an fdisk labeled disk, like from alpha NT, though), but they are shooting themselves in the foot by not putting / first. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 7:14: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BE837B417 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from shakira.fi.infn.it (shakira.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.13]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g1QFCSdA088873 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:12:29 +0100 (CET) X-RAV-AntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses on host: postino.fi.infn.it From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16A7136D81; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:12:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shakira.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA3C30C01 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:12:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:12:27 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: fddi@shakira.fi.infn.it To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: supplementary ATA controller on alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am about to buy a supplementary ATA controller to install it on a XP1000, since the XP1000 supplied IDE controller is a piece of junk. FreeBSD supports very well HughPoint controllers and Promise FastTrak. I would like to ask if any of you uses a specific ATA controller on XP1000 or any other Alpha machine and if it works. Andrew Gallatain already told me that his Promise-33 controller is working great. Anyone have experience with other Promise controllers or HighPoint (HPT) controllers? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 7:37:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB5537B405 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:37:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16fjfq-0006Af-00; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:37:50 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1QFaupU000561 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1QFaufX000560 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:36:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT: OSF/1 emu breakage? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:36:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <15483.37848.566912.531072@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I notice a suspicious new inability of setiathome on my FreeBSD/alpha > > to fetch new work units. (No, it's not a server problem.) > > Perhaps you could narrow things down further using ktrace/osf1_kdump? False alarm. Somehow (probably by one of my crashes) a user_info.sah file was truncated, turning the client interactive, which the frontend didn't handle. I fixed it and things are running fine again. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 9:49:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.registeredsite.com (mail5.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E70937B402 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.optima-hyper.com ([216.2.34.221]) by mail5.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1QGvPm09223 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:57:26 -0500 Received: from hqwkst77 [216.2.34.221] by mail.optima-hyper.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id AA8253E901D6; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:48:50 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Yuri Victorovich" To: Subject: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:59:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On my AS1000A 5/500, 500MHz I got FreeBSD 4.5 installed. Kernel cvsuped from FreeBSD 4.5 STABLE (RELENG_4) as of today's morning and rebuilt with << options DEC_1000A cpu EV5 >> Other similar options DEC_XXX and EV4 are commented out since they are for other kinds of alpha. Machine boots up and after some while of "make world" and some other activities "unexpected machine check", see log below. Can it be because of preceding "processor correctable error"? Or maybe because when system boots it identifies cpu as: CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=1 extensions=0x1 and in options is only EV5 the closest match? What's strange -- this never happened during several installs from floppies and CDROM or FTP. Other info of possible interest from boot log: OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020116 Or am I missing something again? )) Any help will be greatly appreciated! Yuri. ================================================ [...] Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Feb 26 11:19:48 s2 su: yuri to root on /dev/ttyp0 Feb 26 11:20:09 s2 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyd0 Feb 26 11:22:57 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 26 11:31:29 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. Feb 26 11:33:03 s2 last message repeated 3 times Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: unexpected machine check: Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: mces = 0x1 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: vector = 0x670 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006060 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pc = 0xfffffc00003cc09c Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00004231f4 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe00098ded00 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pid = 15247, comm = install Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: panic: machine check Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: syncing disks... 84 25 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: giving up on 24 buffers Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Uptime: 17m42s To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 10: 1:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA7537B430 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:01:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09138; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1QI0dk07665; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:00:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15483.52551.296701.638173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:00:39 -0500 (EST) To: Cc: Subject: Re: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The cpu option in the config file is meaningless & should be ignored on alpha. However, you should be able to add CPUTYPE=ev56 to /etc/make.conf. This will result in smaller, faster binaries which have a better chance of avoiding optimizer bugs at higher optimization levels. However, your problem is probably bad memory. It looks like you had 5 single bit errors (one for each "Warning: received processor correctable error") then then you had a multiple bit error, which cannot be corrected & results in the hardware throwing an uncorrectable machine check. Drew Yuri Victorovich writes: > On my AS1000A 5/500, 500MHz I got FreeBSD 4.5 > installed. > Kernel cvsuped from FreeBSD 4.5 STABLE (RELENG_4) > as of today's morning and rebuilt > with > << > options DEC_1000A > cpu EV5 > >> > Other similar options DEC_XXX and EV4 are > commented out since they are for other > kinds of alpha. > > Machine boots up and after some while of > "make world" and some other activities > "unexpected machine check", see log > below. > > Can it be because of preceding "processor > correctable error"? > > Or maybe because when system boots it > identifies cpu as: > > CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=1 extensions=0x1 > > and in options is only EV5 the closest match? > > What's strange -- this never happened during several > installs from floppies and CDROM or FTP. > > Other info of possible interest from boot log: > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020116 > > Or am I missing something again? )) > > Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > Yuri. > > > ================================================ > > [...] > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM > SCSI-2 device > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT > READY, Medium not present > Feb 26 11:19:48 s2 su: yuri to root on /dev/ttyp0 > Feb 26 11:20:09 s2 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyd0 > Feb 26 11:22:57 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. > Feb 26 11:31:29 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. > Feb 26 11:33:03 s2 last message repeated 3 times > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: unexpected machine check: > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: mces = 0x1 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: vector = 0x670 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006060 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pc = 0xfffffc00003cc09c > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00004231f4 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe00098ded00 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pid = 15247, comm = install > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: panic: machine check > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: syncing disks... 84 25 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 > 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: giving up on 24 buffers > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Uptime: 17m42s > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 10:12:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02DF37B417 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1QIC6d75489; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:12:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:12:06 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Message-ID: <20020226191206.D75343@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15483.52551.296701.638173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15483.52551.296701.638173@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 01:00:39PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 01:00:39PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Time to reseat the SIMMs. Had things like this on a AS1000A at work. Half-baked nonbrand simms also tend to give problems on Noritake. Wilko > > > The cpu option in the config file is meaningless & should be ignored > on alpha. However, you should be able to add > CPUTYPE=ev56 > to /etc/make.conf. This will result in smaller, faster binaries which > have a better chance of avoiding optimizer bugs at higher optimization > levels. > > However, your problem is probably bad memory. It looks like you had 5 > single bit errors (one for each "Warning: received processor > correctable error") then then you had a multiple bit error, which > cannot be corrected & results in the hardware throwing an > uncorrectable machine check. > > > > Drew > > > Yuri Victorovich writes: > > On my AS1000A 5/500, 500MHz I got FreeBSD 4.5 > > installed. > > Kernel cvsuped from FreeBSD 4.5 STABLE (RELENG_4) > > as of today's morning and rebuilt > > with > > << > > options DEC_1000A > > cpu EV5 > > >> > > Other similar options DEC_XXX and EV4 are > > commented out since they are for other > > kinds of alpha. > > > > Machine boots up and after some while of > > "make world" and some other activities > > "unexpected machine check", see log > > below. > > > > Can it be because of preceding "processor > > correctable error"? > > > > Or maybe because when system boots it > > identifies cpu as: > > > > CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=1 extensions=0x1 > > > > and in options is only EV5 the closest match? > > > > What's strange -- this never happened during several > > installs from floppies and CDROM or FTP. > > > > Other info of possible interest from boot log: > > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000600020116 > > > > Or am I missing something again? )) > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > > > Yuri. > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > [...] > > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM > > SCSI-2 device > > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > > Feb 26 11:19:11 s2 /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT > > READY, Medium not present > > Feb 26 11:19:48 s2 su: yuri to root on /dev/ttyp0 > > Feb 26 11:20:09 s2 login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyd0 > > Feb 26 11:22:57 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. > > Feb 26 11:31:29 s2 /kernel: Warning: received processor correctable error. > > Feb 26 11:33:03 s2 last message repeated 3 times > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: unexpected machine check: > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: mces = 0x1 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: vector = 0x670 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: param = 0xfffffc0000006060 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pc = 0xfffffc00003cc09c > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: ra = 0xfffffc00004231f4 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: curproc = 0xfffffe00098ded00 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: pid = 15247, comm = install > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: panic: machine check > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: syncing disks... 84 25 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 > > 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: giving up on 24 buffers > > Feb 26 11:39:07 s2 /kernel: Uptime: 17m42s > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 13:24:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.registeredsite.com (mail3.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8282237B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.optima-hyper.com ([216.2.34.221]) by mail3.registeredsite.com (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1QKTRx25333 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:29:28 -0500 Received: from hqwkst77 [216.2.34.221] by mail.optima-hyper.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id ACFA78C200C0; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:24:10 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Yuri Victorovich" To: Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nope, seems that reseating, cleaning, rotating SIMMs doesn't help. Is it a way to find which SIMM exactly causes the problem? By those values that it loggs on "unexpected machine check" crash? Yuri ================================================================ Time to reseat the SIMMs. Had things like this on a AS1000A at work. Half-baked nonbrand simms also tend to give problems on Noritake. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 13:29:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB4E37B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18047; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g1QLSnN19529; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:28:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15483.65041.7582.593390@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:28:49 -0500 (EST) To: Cc: Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuri Victorovich writes: > Nope, seems that reseating, cleaning, rotating SIMMs doesn't help. > Is it a way to find which SIMM exactly causes the problem? By those > values that it loggs on "unexpected machine check" crash? > Yes & we could also log more information for the correctable errors too. However, doing this requires having sufficient documentation, which I don't think we do. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 14: 2:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043F337B487 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g1QM1f176582; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:01:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:01:41 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Message-ID: <20020226230141.A76553@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15483.65041.7582.593390@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15483.65041.7582.593390@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 04:28:49PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 04:28:49PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Yuri Victorovich writes: > > Nope, seems that reseating, cleaning, rotating SIMMs doesn't help. > > Is it a way to find which SIMM exactly causes the problem? By those > > values that it loggs on "unexpected machine check" crash? > > > > Yes & we could also log more information for the correctable errors > too. However, doing this requires having sufficient documentation, > which I don't think we do. Yep, I think exactly that information is CPQ confidential. T64 has a binary errorlogger that uses this kind of thing. Along with DECevent & CPQanalyse one can really analyse a lot of nitty gritty problems. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 26 14:38:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF0737B400 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:38:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1QMcOQ19224; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:38:24 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: supplementary ATA controller on alpha Message-ID: <20020226143824.B19082@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 04:12:27PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 04:12:27PM +0100, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > great. Anyone have experience with other Promise controllers or HighPoint > (HPT) controllers? I have used an HPT 370 in an Miata To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 27 0:23:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from eudoramail.com (netturbo.cscoms.com [202.183.214.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97B3137B417 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 00:23:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Moissanite" To: Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:26:35 +0700 Reply-To: "Moissanite" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020227082316.97B3137B417@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.directhit.com/search.asp?qry=moissanite&alias=websrch Please take a look at this link above and let me know what you think. I really couldn't believe it. De-beers must be really scared. Regards George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 27 7:15: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F137537B41A for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1Z1F761M>; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA3B7@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Don' , Andrew Gallatin Cc: yvictorovich@optima-hyper.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:14:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Don, > > > / MUST BE FIRST. > > Is there any reason you would not put / first? > > I have actually never seen it done any other way. > I ran into this too. I had a 500MB disk, so I allocated 64MB for swap and "the rest" to be "/". That's how "/" ends up being second. Kees Jan ===================================================== You can't have everything. Where would you put it? [Steven Wright] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 27 8:13: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.registeredsite.com (mail6.registeredsite.com [64.224.9.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24DF37B429 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.optima-hyper.com ([216.2.34.221]) by mail6.registeredsite.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1RGCZ9D024005; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:12:36 -0500 Received: from hqwkst77 [216.2.34.221] by mail.optima-hyper.com (SMTPD32-6.06) id A54FE81C00C0; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:11:59 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Yuri Victorovich" To: "'Andrew Gallatin'" Cc: Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW I kinda found the workaround. Limited available memory with MAXMEM. Now I hope it became rocksolid. Playing with MAXMEM and SIMMs rotation will find and isolate bad SIMM when will have time. Yuri. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 16:29 To: Victorovich, Yuri Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A Yuri Victorovich writes: > Nope, seems that reseating, cleaning, rotating SIMMs doesn't help. > Is it a way to find which SIMM exactly causes the problem? By those > values that it loggs on "unexpected machine check" crash? > Yes & we could also log more information for the correctable errors too. However, doing this requires having sufficient documentation, which I don't think we do. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 27 16:31:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D284337B41A for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16gETg-0007tB-00; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 01:31:20 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g1RNvtpU003099 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 00:57:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g1RNvtRw003098 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 00:57:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > >> If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel image > >> to find out which code the pc is. > > > > lockmgr+0x844 > > Anyways, can you pull up gdb on your kernel.debug > then do 'l lockmgr+0x844' to get the source line for that? (gdb) list *lockmgr+0x844 0xfffffc000038bf44 is in lockmgr (../../../kern/kern_lock.c:448). 443 mtx_unlock(lkp->lk_interlock); 444 panic("lockmgr: unknown locktype request %d", 445 flags & LK_TYPE_MASK); 446 /* NOTREACHED */ 447 } 448 if ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_WAITDRAIN) && 449 (lkp->lk_flags & (LK_HAVE_EXCL | LK_WANT_EXCL | LK_WANT_UPGRADE | 450 LK_SHARE_NONZERO | LK_WAIT_NONZERO)) == 0) { 451 lkp->lk_flags &= ~LK_WAITDRAIN; 452 wakeup((void *)&lkp->lk_flags); -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 16:28:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB5C37B417 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cartman ([213.107.250.133]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020301002817.ODJI8848.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@cartman> for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:28:17 +0000 Message-ID: <008f01c1c0b8$4bdee9a0$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> From: "Steven" To: Subject: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:30:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, My machine is an AlphaStation 200 (200 4/233 with 192 meg RAM) I posted a questions to freebsd-questions earlier this evening (to which i had no replies). I appologise if this is the wrong mailing to be using, but I have been finding it really hard to find any information relevant to my hardware. The original problem was about booting from the 4.5 alpha cd (namely the keyboard stops working when the terminal type menu comes up). Searches on google and reading the hardware.txt file were of no help. Finally I found the archieves for this list and know now its because of my graphics card not being supported. IMHO it would be *really* useful to mention this in the hardware file. Although I have learnt a fair bit about my system in the past 6 hours whilst trying to figure it out, other people might just give up. I haven't replaced the graphics card yet, but I did set SRM's console env to serial, and am booting over a serial cable. My problem now is that when I select standard install from sysinstall, I get: lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq Message qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk xNo disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being x xproperly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the x xDocumentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem. x tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq(100%)qqu x [ OK ] x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq[ Press enter or space ]qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj My machine is supported, according to the Hardware.txt file. During the boot up, my harddisk does show up (as da0). As far as I know, the hardware is as it was when purchased originally. I got the machine earlier today from my university who have been using it as an SMTP server for donkeys years. I don't know what its previous OS was, they stuck Redhat Linux on it before getting rid of it (which appears to work fine). I upgraded the firmware to the latest version earlier whilst trying to figure out my first problem, its now V7.0-9 (Mar 18 1999 13:41:11). During the start of sysinstall when it does the probing I did notice something which could be of a problem. I don't know however what to do about it. I enclose with this email a full output of the bootup with -v option. After that is pasted a small selection of sysinstalls probing session. If someone can help me, I'd be most appreciative. I've installed Fbsd numerous times on i386 machines without problems. After 7 years of i386 *nix ownership, now that I've got my first real unix box I'm determined not to desecrate it by installing linux! :-) Thanks Steven ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5. ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.....e5. V7.0-9, built on Mar 18 1999 at 13:41:11 >>>boot dka400 (boot dka400.4.0.6.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dka400.4.0.6.0 is a valid boot block reading 375 blocks from dka400.4.0.6.0 bootstrap code read in base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2ee00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 1e4000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010538 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 (murray@axpbuilder.freebsdmall.com, Mon Jan 28 16:18:52 GMT 2002) Memory: 196608 k Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf /kernel data=0x406778+0x2acb8 syms=[0x8+0x4e360+0x8+0x38928] \ Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 7 seconds... Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok boot -v Entering kernel at 0xfffffc0000331460... Unrecognized boot flag '0'. Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 29 07:52:50 GMT 2002 murray@axpbuilder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 199278592 (194608K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00af8000 - 0x0bff5fff, 189784064 bytes (23167 pages) avail memory = 184115200 (179800K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000adc000. Preloaded mfs_root "/boot/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc0000adc0d0. md0: Preloaded image 3276800 bytes at 0xfffffc00007b80c8 Creating DISK md0 md1: Malloc disk Creating DISK md1 found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x02 class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00010000, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82040000, size 8 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x84 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0002, revid=0x23 class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=5 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00010100, size 7 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82040100, size 7 found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004, revid=0x03 class=03-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 88000000, size 27 pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82040000-0x820400ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/00 sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 265 msec, 33540 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 280 msec, 31744 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 281 msec, 31631 KHz sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 Bus Modes: Bus Park, Resource Lock, IDE controller: Secondary (170h-177h,376h,377h) Floppy controller: 370h,371h Floppy controller: 372h-377h Keyboard controller: 60h,62h,64h,66h RTC: 70h-77h Configuration RAM: 0C00h,0800h-08FFh Port 92: enabled isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82040100-0x8204017f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 08:00:2b:e7:53:a5 bpf: de0 attached pci0: (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004) at 13.0 irq 10 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0003 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x83ab (2) kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x1d0000 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: current command byte:0043 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: status 00 00 64 psm: status 00 03 64 psm: status 00 03 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 10 00 64 psm: status 00 02 64 psm: data 08 00 00 psm: status 00 02 64 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 vga0: failed to probe on isa0 sc0: no video adapter found. sc0: failed to probe on isa0 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 233348360 Hz (firmware 233100233 Hz) sio0: irq maps: 0x61 0x70 0x60 0x60 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x50 on isa0 ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: SPP ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Timecounter "alpha" frequency 233348360 Hz bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached bpf: sl0 attached bpf: faith0 attached Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. de0: autosense failed: cable problem? (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): Invalid field in CDB sks:c8,1 Creating DISK da0 Creating DISK cd0 pass0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number 341523822353 pass0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) pass1 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 pass1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device pass1: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number 341523822353 da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1001MB (2050860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) cd0: cd present [1304896 x 512 byte records] Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c md0: invalid primary partition table: no magic WARNING: clock gained 7335 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! start_init: trying /sbin/init start_init: trying /sbin/oinit start_init: trying /sbin/init.bak start_init: trying /stand/sysinstall /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console These are the predefined terminal types available to sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the closest match for your particular terminal. 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. Your choice: (1-5) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: raw partition size != slice size da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic da0: raw partition size != slice size da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 da0: raw partition size != slice size da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 16:40:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C3937B41D for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g210eGL37822; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:40:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g210bXYd045298; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:37:33 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g210bWo12583; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:37:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:37:30 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Steven Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes Message-ID: <20020301003729.GC11453@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <008f01c1c0b8$4bdee9a0$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008f01c1c0b8$4bdee9a0$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:30:31AM -0000, Steven wrote: > Hi, > > My machine is an AlphaStation 200 (200 4/233 with 192 meg RAM) > > I posted a questions to freebsd-questions earlier this evening (to which i > had no replies). I appologise if this is the wrong mailing to be using, but > I have been finding it really hard to find any information relevant to my > hardware. The original problem was about booting from the 4.5 alpha cd > (namely the keyboard stops working when the terminal type menu comes up). > Searches on google and reading the hardware.txt file were of no help. > Finally I found the archieves for this list and know now its because of my > graphics card not being supported. IMHO it would be *really* useful to > mention this in the hardware file. Although I have learnt a fair bit about > my system in the past 6 hours whilst trying to figure it out, other people > might just give up. It looks like sysinstall gets confused by the old disk content. If you zero out the first blocks you should be able to install. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 17: 6:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDAFF37B41A for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 91399 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2002 01:05:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO beast) ([195.134.148.23]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 1 Mar 2002 01:05:07 -0000 Message-ID: <200203010206480953.080F42D1@mail.pipeline.ch> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.30.00.00 (1) Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 02:06:48 +0100 Reply-To: janosh@n-r-g.com From: "janosh" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steven, I'd similar problems with my AS200 4/233 box. >Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle >(noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. >de0: autosense failed: cable problem? >(probe4:sym0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 >(probe4:sym0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 >(probe4:sym0:0:4:0): Invalid field in CDB sks:c8,1 Well, open the box and check HD pin's, there is one for parity ON/OFF. As I remember it should be ON. [no pin] In my case it was a Seagate ST31230N & ST31005N, living before with= AlphaBIOS. That's all. P.S OpenBSD installation was much easier, no troubles at all. tja janosh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 17:38: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saruman.xwin.net (saruman.xwin.net [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9BB37B405 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by saruman.xwin.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g211d0s11753; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:39:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:39:00 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Halliday X-X-Sender: To: janosh Cc: Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes In-Reply-To: <200203010206480953.080F42D1@mail.pipeline.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Well, open the box and check HD pin's, there is one for parity ON/OFF. > As I remember it should be ON. [no pin] > In my case it was a Seagate ST31230N & ST31005N, living before with AlphaBIOS. > That's all. > > P.S > OpenBSD installation was much easier, no troubles at all. Charlatan!! Traitor!! > > tja > janosh > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 20:54:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2373A37B417 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g214rQF05855 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:23:26 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:24:23 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id PAA07603; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:15:29 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FVNBW26D; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:15:27 +1030 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:09:14 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Bernd Walter Cc: Steven , Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes In-Reply-To: <20020301003729.GC11453@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: <20020301150844.C570-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do "zero out" the first blocks ? On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: ticso:>>On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:30:31AM -0000, Steven wrote: ticso:>>> Hi, ticso:>>> ticso:>>> My machine is an AlphaStation 200 (200 4/233 with 192 meg RAM) ticso:>>> ticso:>>> I posted a questions to freebsd-questions earlier this evening (to which i ticso:>>> had no replies). I appologise if this is the wrong mailing to be using, but ticso:>>> I have been finding it really hard to find any information relevant to my ticso:>>> hardware. The original problem was about booting from the 4.5 alpha cd ticso:>>> (namely the keyboard stops working when the terminal type menu comes up). ticso:>>> Searches on google and reading the hardware.txt file were of no help. ticso:>>> Finally I found the archieves for this list and know now its because of my ticso:>>> graphics card not being supported. IMHO it would be *really* useful to ticso:>>> mention this in the hardware file. Although I have learnt a fair bit about ticso:>>> my system in the past 6 hours whilst trying to figure it out, other people ticso:>>> might just give up. ticso:>> ticso:>>It looks like sysinstall gets confused by the old disk content. ticso:>>If you zero out the first blocks you should be able to install. ticso:>> ticso:>>-- ticso:>>B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso:>>ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de ticso:>> ticso:>> ticso:>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ticso:>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 28 21:34:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4560137B400 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g215XXF09086 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:03:33 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:04:31 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id PAA27768; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:56:02 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FVNBWJYS; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:56:00 +1030 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 15:49:47 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: "Wilkinson,Alex" Cc: Bernd Walter , Steven , Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes In-Reply-To: <20020301150844.C570-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: <20020301154910.R7809-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sorry about that typo: How do you "zero out" the first blocks ? On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: Alex.W:>> Alex.W:>> Alex.W:>>How do "zero out" the first blocks ? Alex.W:>> Alex.W:>> Alex.W:>>On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: Alex.W:>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 12:30:31AM -0000, Steven wrote: Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> Hi, Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> My machine is an AlphaStation 200 (200 4/233 with 192 meg RAM) Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> I posted a questions to freebsd-questions earlier this evening (to which i Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> had no replies). I appologise if this is the wrong mailing to be using, but Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> I have been finding it really hard to find any information relevant to my Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> hardware. The original problem was about booting from the 4.5 alpha cd Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> (namely the keyboard stops working when the terminal type menu comes up). Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> Searches on google and reading the hardware.txt file were of no help. Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> Finally I found the archieves for this list and know now its because of my Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> graphics card not being supported. IMHO it would be *really* useful to Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> mention this in the hardware file. Although I have learnt a fair bit about Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> my system in the past 6 hours whilst trying to figure it out, other people Alex.W:>>ticso:>>> might just give up. Alex.W:>>ticso:>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>It looks like sysinstall gets confused by the old disk content. Alex.W:>>ticso:>>If you zero out the first blocks you should be able to install. Alex.W:>>ticso:>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>-- Alex.W:>>ticso:>>B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de Alex.W:>>ticso:>>ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de Alex.W:>>ticso:>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>> Alex.W:>>ticso:>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org Alex.W:>>ticso:>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 1 6: 7:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE5D37B400 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from logs-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com (logs-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com [64.12.105.5]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA12675 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from c109118a3 (ACA9AE32.ipt.aol.com [172.169.174.50]) by logs-mtc-ta.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g21E1EL192342 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:01:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> Reply-To: "Andrew M. Miklic" From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: Subject: TGA driver available... Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 07:04:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Apparently-From: AndrwMklc@cs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, A new, corrected TGA kernel is available for testing. This kernel is for TGA devices _only_, so it will not boot on VGA as console for systems with only VGA, and for systems with both TGA and VGA, it will boot on TGA as console. A word of note: if you are going to use a "small" monitor (17'' or less) or a monitor only capable of refresh rates less than 80Hz and the monitor does not sync during boot of the kernel listed below, please set the TGA card to the lowest resolution (640x480) and retry... The driver can be found here: http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/tgaonly.gz Sincerely, Andrew Miklic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 1 6:15:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E953B37B417 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01909; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g21EFJu70706; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:15:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15487.36087.212483.935915@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:15:19 -0500 (EST) To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: Subject: Re: TGA driver available... In-Reply-To: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> References: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew M. Miklic writes: > All, > > A new, corrected TGA kernel is available for testing. This kernel is > for TGA devices _only_, so it will not boot on VGA as console for systems > with only VGA, and for systems with both TGA and VGA, it will boot on TGA as > console. > > A word of note: if you are going to use a "small" monitor (17'' or less) > or a monitor only capable of refresh rates less than 80Hz and the monitor > does not sync during boot of the kernel listed below, please set the TGA > card to the lowest resolution (640x480) and retry... > > The driver can be found here: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/tgaonly.gz Its a GENERIC 5.0-current kernel with the TGA driver in place of the VGA driver, actually ;) BTW, if you test this, please set your console to "graphics" and make sure you have a keyboard plugged in. We're interested in hearing if you can boot to single user mode & use the TGA card as a graphics console. I've compiled in hints, so you should be able to drop this kernel in the root fs of a 4.x machine, and boot it rather than your 4.x kernel. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 1 6:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D40737B41D for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g21Eo1K28166; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7270337B402 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g21EifN99936; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:44:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200203011444.g21EifN99936@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 06:44:41 -0800 (PST) From: Jarkko Santala To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/35455: Unable to compile ISA NIC devices into kernel Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35455 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Unable to compile ISA NIC devices into kernel >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 01 06:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jarkko Santala >Release: 4.5-RELEASE-p1 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD zem.xxx.xxx 4.5-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p1 #0: Fri Mar 1 15:23:31 EET 2002 jake@zem.xxx.xxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/ZEM alpha >Description: I tried adding and ISA NIC into the kernel config file, but 'config ZEM && cd ../../compile/ZEM && make depend && make' results in: -cut- cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 setdef1.c touch hack.c cc -elf -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So rm -f hack.c sh ../../conf/newvers.sh ZEM cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -I../../contrib/ipfilter -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 vers.c linking kernel if_ep_isa.o: In function `ep_isa_identify': if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x1d0): undefined reference to `elink_idseq' if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x1d4): undefined reference to `elink_idseq' if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x1e0): undefined reference to `elink_reset' if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x1e4): undefined reference to `elink_reset' if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x244): undefined reference to `elink_idseq' if_ep_isa.o(.text+0x248): undefined reference to `elink_idseq' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/ZEM. zem:/usr/src/sys/compile/ZEM# -cut- With device fe the end result of 'make depend' is: -cut- ../../dev/fe/if_fe.c:71: opt_fe.h: No such file or directory -cut- >How-To-Repeat: Take an alpha, install 4.5, add a device for a ISA NIC into kernel config and try to compile kernel. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 1 12:27:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619F037B417 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cartman ([213.107.250.133]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020301202713.OWS305.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@cartman>; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:27:13 +0000 Message-ID: <008501c1c15f$c99c4480$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> From: "Steven" To: "Bernd Walter" Cc: References: <008f01c1c0b8$4bdee9a0$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301003729.GC11453@cicely8.cicely.de> <00e501c1c0bc$cf86ff00$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301013435.GE11453@cicely8.cicely.de> <013001c1c0d1$665f3d20$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301035002.GF11453@cicely8.cicely.de> Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:29:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=10240 count=10 should be > enough. Excelent! I tried doing this before from the fixit disk (the second alpha cdrom), but it didn't work: Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=10240 count=10 dd: /dev/da0: end of device 1+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.121615 secs (0 bytes/sec) I tried it again when I got your mail, but still the same problem. As it happens, I live with 3 other students and yesterday when I got my free alphastation, 2 others blagged an alphastation each too (so I have a 200-4/233, someone else has a 200-4/166 and the other is a 255 of some description). Each of the others have redhat installed, so I took the hd out of mine, stuck it in another, booted up redhat and ran dd. This time it worked. After putting my disk back into my machine, sysinstall now starts. Sysinstall hung the first time i tried installing, but now its all finished. Thanks to all who helped, especially Bernd whose directions worked. I don't normally take notes when I'm doing things, but I think I will write down what I've done to get it working and stick it online somewhere, as I'm sure I won't be the last person to run into these problems. I may try out the TGA driver at some point, but as I don't have a spare monitor for the machine (or space on my desk for a 4th keyboard!) and a serial cable waiting to be used, there isn't a lot of need for it. The only problem I have now is with the network card, but unless someone knows what the blatent problem is, I'll just buy a 4 uk pound pci realtek one instead. The built in card is a 21040. In SRM i "set ewa0_mode twisted-pair" and during the boot up it is recognised: de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x82040100-0x8204017f irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 08:00:2b:e7:53:a5 But then later on I get: de0: autosense failed: cable problem? Dispite the fact that the cable is plugged in, the light on the hub is on and I know the network card works from when the machine had redhat installed. Anyway, thanks again for your help, I probably would have given up and stuck linux on it by now without it. Steven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 1 12:40:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB28E37B417 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from cartman ([213.107.250.133]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020301204016.BOMM7000.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@cartman> for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:40:16 +0000 Message-ID: <00a801c1c161$9cb85880$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> From: "Steven" To: References: <008f01c1c0b8$4bdee9a0$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301003729.GC11453@cicely8.cicely.de> <00e501c1c0bc$cf86ff00$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301013435.GE11453@cicely8.cicely.de> <013001c1c0d1$665f3d20$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> <20020301035002.GF11453@cicely8.cicely.de> <008501c1c15f$c99c4480$0201a8c0@offline.org.uk> Subject: Re: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 20:42:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just quick update (sorry to spam the list), the network card problem seems to have sorted itself out and it's being recognised at boot time now. I don't actually know what I did (if anything) to recify the the problem, but I just rebooted the machine a few times and each time now networking appears to be fully functional. Thanks Steven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 2 8:45:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA40237B402 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 08:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch4.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.22]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g22GahD05112 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 11:36:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C80F542.CC5040B8@switchpwr.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 10:52:34 -0500 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.38 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: uP1000 question? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Probably not a alpha limited event however i am reluctant to re-boot this guy since : Local system status: 1:59AM up 361 days, 16:02, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Disk status: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0a 69407 49509 14346 78% / /dev/ad0f 13862553 1571602 11181947 12% /usr /dev/ad0e 19815 2749 15481 15% /var procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc this machine is running 4.3 and i am getting : switch1.switchpwr.com kernel log messages: > 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full messages even though /dev/ad0e is only 15% full, any comments ???? -Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Mar 2 9:10:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DCE37B400 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g22HAKc73606; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:10:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g22H7nYd018279; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:07:49 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g22H7m325419; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:07:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:07:45 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: mel kravitz Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uP1000 question? Message-ID: <20020302170744.GR11453@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <3C80F542.CC5040B8@switchpwr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C80F542.CC5040B8@switchpwr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 10:52:34AM -0500, mel kravitz wrote: > Probably not a alpha limited event however i am reluctant to re-boot > this guy since : > Local system status: > 1:59AM up 361 days, 16:02, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Nice uptime :) > Disk status: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0a 69407 49509 14346 78% / > /dev/ad0f 13862553 1571602 11181947 12% /usr > /dev/ad0e 19815 2749 15481 15% /var > procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc > this machine is running 4.3 and i am getting : > switch1.switchpwr.com kernel log messages: > > 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > > pid 41298 (sendmail), uid 0 on /var: file system full > messages even though /dev/ad0e is only 15% full, any comments ???? The number of % can't hide the fact that you only have 15M free space on /var. Consider receiving an 20M mail or having temporary data in /var/tmp when this happened. /var/log/maillog will tell you some details about the mail which triggered this. You should stop sendmail and relocate /var/spool and if you have local folders /var/mail too onto /usr. A simple softlink will do. Of course the real point is that your / partition as well as your /var partition is kind of small. I once had an 86M partition on / for my toy box and it wasn't funny to update - well it was the whole disk so I had no choice. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message