From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 4:54: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE0A37B416 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 04:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2ACqdn18118; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:52:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:51:24 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Peter Jeremy Cc: "Andrew M. Miklic" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TGA driver available... Message-ID: <20020310135124.C18060@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> <20020310121421.A61472@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020310121421.A61472@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:14:21PM +1100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:14:21PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2002-Mar-01 07:04:15 -0700, "Andrew M. Miklic" wrote: > > A new, corrected TGA kernel is available for testing. > ... > > http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/tgaonly.gz > > FWIW (since I haven't seen anyone else respond), this works on my > Multia. This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation or so. Haven't investigated this further (yet). -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 6:22:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3B537B417 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from logs-te.proxy.aol.com (logs-te.proxy.aol.com [152.163.195.135]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA16954; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from c109118a3 (AC989B44.ipt.aol.com [172.152.155.68]) by logs-te.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g2AEIpR146653; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:18:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101c1c83e$eeba7850$449b98ac@c109118a3> Reply-To: "Andrew M. Miklic" From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: "Wilko Bulte" , "Peter Jeremy" Cc: "Andrew M. Miklic" , References: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> <20020310121421.A61472@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20020310135124.C18060@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: TGA driver available... Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:21:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Apparently-From: AndrwMklc@cs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems > to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation or > so. Haven't investigated this further (yet). Yes--TGA2 cards have a "native" TGA mode and a default compatibility VGA mode: the card defaults to VGA mode for boot, and I leave it there (there didn't seem any reason to switch it to TGA mode, at least, not for text)... Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 7: 6:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E4737B404 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AF6as18392; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:06:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:06:36 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TGA driver available... Message-ID: <20020310160636.A18359@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> <20020310121421.A61472@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20020310135124.C18060@freebie.xs4all.nl> <001101c1c83e$eeba7850$449b98ac@c109118a3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001101c1c83e$eeba7850$449b98ac@c109118a3>; from AndrwMklc@cs.com on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:21:53AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:21:53AM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: > > This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems > > to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation > or > > so. Haven't investigated this further (yet). > > > Yes--TGA2 cards have a "native" TGA mode and a default compatibility VGA > mode: the card defaults to VGA mode for boot, and I leave it there (there > didn't seem any reason to switch it to TGA mode, at least, not for text)... Oops, I was unclear: I don't have the TGA patches loaded, this is out-of-the-box 4.5R -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 7:10: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E4837B400 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AFA4E18438 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:10:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:10:04 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Sound on AlphaStation 500 Message-ID: <20020310161004.A18420@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Anybody ever succeeded in getting the builtin sound to work on the AlphaStation 500? I got an AS500 this week and have been playin with it a bit. Sofar I can get the CS sound chip detected alright but playing sound results in "no interrupt, channel dead" messages. I used the ECU (yes, the ISA stuff hangs off a PCI-EISA bridge so you need to run the ECU) to set up things, and also checked the jumpers on the sound daughtercard (it has jumpers for the I/O range). Suggestions are welcome. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 8:18:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailhotel.chrillesen.dk (vax.chrillesen.dk [193.88.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FF437B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailhotel.chrillesen.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E10560EC; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:18:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:18:48 +0100 From: Jan Chrillesen To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Building GENERIC kernel not possible in -current Message-ID: <20020310161848.GB2718@vax.chrillesen.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-editor: vim, http://www.vim.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When doing a buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC on -current from yesterday, it dies with cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev5 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/dev -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_reset_adapter': /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:486: warning: `r' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_download_fw': /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:516: warning: `r' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_download_fw_wait': /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:587: warning: `r' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_alloc_rings': /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:960: warning: `r' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Userland is from yesterday (I upgraded to get the latest OpenSSH fixes) Regards, Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 8:41:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66CA37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2AGfMH18637; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:41:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:41:22 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jan Chrillesen Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building GENERIC kernel not possible in -current Message-ID: <20020310174122.A18620@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161848.GB2718@vax.chrillesen.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020310161848.GB2718@vax.chrillesen.dk>; from jan@chrillesen.dk on Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 05:18:48PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 05:18:48PM +0100, Jan Chrillesen wrote: Warnings are treated as errors (see >>> below) on -current. Do export NO_WERROR=1 to avoid this, Wilko > When doing a buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC on -current from yesterday, it > dies with > > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev5 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline > -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. > -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/dev -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica > -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/src/sys/../include -D_KERNEL > -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf -mno-fp-regs > -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c >>>> > cc1: warnings being treated as errors > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_reset_adapter': > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:486: warning: `r' might be used > uninitialized in this function > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_download_fw': > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:516: warning: `r' might be used > uninitialized in this function > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_download_fw_wait': > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:587: warning: `r' might be used > uninitialized in this function > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c: In function `txp_alloc_rings': > /usr/src/sys/dev/txp/if_txp.c:960: warning: `r' might be used > uninitialized in this function > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > Userland is from yesterday (I upgraded to get the latest OpenSSH fixes) > > Regards, Jan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Mar 10 9: 3: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (rly-ip02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7800D37B405 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 09:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from logs-te.proxy.aol.com (logs-te.proxy.aol.com [152.163.195.135]) by rly-ip02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA14316; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from c109118a3 (AC989B44.ipt.aol.com [172.152.155.68]) by logs-te.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g2AH0LR293445; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:00:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001f01c1c855$7dda7a10$449b98ac@c109118a3> Reply-To: "Andrew M. Miklic" From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: "Wilko Bulte" , "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: "Peter Jeremy" , References: <000701c1c129$fa0bc5e0$32aea9ac@c109118a3> <20020310121421.A61472@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20020310135124.C18060@freebie.xs4all.nl> <001101c1c83e$eeba7850$449b98ac@c109118a3> <20020310160636.A18359@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: TGA driver available... Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:03:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Apparently-From: AndrwMklc@cs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:21:53AM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: > > > This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems > > > to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation > > or > > > so. Haven't investigated this further (yet). > > > > > > Yes--TGA2 cards have a "native" TGA mode and a default compatibility VGA > > mode: the card defaults to VGA mode for boot, and I leave it there (there > > didn't seem any reason to switch it to TGA mode, at least, not for text)... > > Oops, I was unclear: I don't have the TGA patches loaded, this is > out-of-the-box 4.5R Perhaps I was also unclear--I meant that the TGA driver does not affect TGA2 cards, so TGA2 cards always have and still function as genric VGA cards, from before 4.5 to 5.0 now... Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 4: 0:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2836737B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 04:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g2BC0Sp89666; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:00:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2BBqKEL046247; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:52:21 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BBqIh06159; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:52:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:52:17 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Daniel Eischen Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tester needed Message-ID: <20020311115217.GI4295@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <3C631A1B.68E59BFE@vigrid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C631A1B.68E59BFE@vigrid.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:21:47PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: > I want to add the getsetcontext system call and am looking for an > alpha tester to see if the code works. Diffs and a test program > are at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/uc-sys.diffs > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/uc-libc.diffs > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/test_context.c > > Don't forget to regenerate the system calls before building > a kernel. > > I've also got a question. Is the user stack stored in the PCB > or does it have to be read from the PAL? If 'td' is the current > thread, then how do we get and set the user stack? > From uc-sys.diffs: > > +void > +get_mcontext(struct thread *td, mcontext_t *mcp) > +{ > + > + /* > + * Use a trapframe for getsetcontext, so just copy the > + * threads trapframe. > + * > + * XXX - Is there something that is missing from the saved > + * trapframe? Like the stack pointer? > + */ > + bcopy(&td->td_frame, &mcp->mc_regs, sizeof(td->td_frame)); > +#if 1 > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > +#else > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; > +#endif > [...] > > And what if 'td' is not 'curthread'? Has it been saved in the > PCB then? Should the above be: > > + if (td == curthread) > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > + else > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; This one is old, but unreplied until now. Do you still need testers? -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 4:36:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D5937B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 04:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (eischen@localhost) by mail.pcnet.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2BCaWDv005230; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:36:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:36:32 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Eischen To: Bernd Walter Cc: Daniel Eischen , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tester needed In-Reply-To: <20020311115217.GI4295@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 07:21:47PM -0500, Daniel Eischen wrote: > > I want to add the getsetcontext system call and am looking for an > > alpha tester to see if the code works. Diffs and a test program > > are at: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/uc-sys.diffs > > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/uc-libc.diffs > > http://people.freebsd.org/~deischen/ucontext/test_context.c > > > > Don't forget to regenerate the system calls before building > > a kernel. > > > > I've also got a question. Is the user stack stored in the PCB > > or does it have to be read from the PAL? If 'td' is the current > > thread, then how do we get and set the user stack? > > From uc-sys.diffs: > > > > +void > > +get_mcontext(struct thread *td, mcontext_t *mcp) > > +{ > > + > > + /* > > + * Use a trapframe for getsetcontext, so just copy the > > + * threads trapframe. > > + * > > + * XXX - Is there something that is missing from the saved > > + * trapframe? Like the stack pointer? > > + */ > > + bcopy(&td->td_frame, &mcp->mc_regs, sizeof(td->td_frame)); > > +#if 1 > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > > +#else > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; > > +#endif > > [...] > > > > And what if 'td' is not 'curthread'? Has it been saved in the > > PCB then? Should the above be: > > > > + if (td == curthread) > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > > + else > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; > > This one is old, but unreplied until now. > Do you still need testers? No, I'll have another patch soon that incorporates some comments from bde. I'll post that when I'm done. I could use an answer to the user stack question above though. -- Dan Eischen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 6:16:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DE037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25269; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2BEFee93741; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15500.48140.478588.518164@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:15:40 -0500 (EST) To: Daniel Eischen Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tester needed In-Reply-To: <20020311115217.GI4295@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <3C631A1B.68E59BFE@vigrid.com> <20020311115217.GI4295@cicely8.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > +#if 1 > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > > +#else > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; > > +#endif > > [...] > > > > And what if 'td' is not 'curthread'? Has it been saved in the > > PCB then? Should the above be: > > > > + if (td == curthread) > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = alpha_pal_rdusp(); > > + else > > + mcp->mc_regs[FRAME_SP] = td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp; > I'm pretty sure that the rdusp() will read the user stack pointer for the current execution context from the PALcode. So if td->td_pcb->pcb_hw.apcb_usp is valid for the context in question, then the above sounds reasonable. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 12:23:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4AF37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06951; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2BKNJ498911; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:23:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15501.4663.76473.479656@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:23:19 -0500 (EST) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound on AlphaStation 500 In-Reply-To: <20020310161004.A18420@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161004.A18420@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > Hi > > Anybody ever succeeded in getting the builtin sound to work on the > AlphaStation 500? I got an AS500 this week and have been playin with > it a bit. Sofar I can get the CS sound chip detected alright but playing > sound results in "no interrupt, channel dead" messages. I used the > ECU (yes, the ISA stuff hangs off a PCI-EISA bridge so you need to run > the ECU) to set up things, and also checked the jumpers on the sound > daughtercard (it has jumpers for the I/O range). > > Suggestions are welcome. It worked a few years ago when I had an AS500 on my desk. Blind guess: try setting the flags to 0x10011. I think the key is to disable the use of 2 DMA channels & tell the PCM code that its a "true MSS" Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 13:17:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF2037B400 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g2BLG3S08998 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:46:04 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:47:03 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id HAA26456; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:40:41 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FVNB576D; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:40:39 +1030 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:34:32 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Peter Jeremy , "Andrew M. Miklic" , Subject: Re: TGA driver available... In-Reply-To: <20020310135124.C18060@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20020312073359.U67357-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what is a TGA2 card ? On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: wkb:>>This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems wkb:>>to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation or - Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 14:10:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (rly-ip01.mx.aol.com [205.188.156.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED9937B42F for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:10:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from logs-te.proxy.aol.com (logs-te.proxy.aol.com [152.163.195.135]) by rly-ip01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA07631; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from c109118a3 (AC9567EC.ipt.aol.com [172.149.103.236]) by logs-te.proxy.aol.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id g2BM3LR113819; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008c01c1c948$fb4cfec0$ec6795ac@c109118a3> Reply-To: "Andrew M. Miklic" From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: , "Wilko Bulte" Cc: "Peter Jeremy" , "Andrew M. Miklic" , References: <20020312073359.U67357-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Subject: Re: TGA driver available... Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:06:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Apparently-From: AndrwMklc@cs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org TGA2 cards are cards like the 3D30, 4D20, and later (I'm not sure of all of the model numbers, nor if TGA chips are still being used in Compaq's graphics cards)... TGA2 cards are really just TGA cards with a new (slightly faster and wider display bit-width) revision of the TGA chip (21130) and newer, better ramdac (IBM561, etc. with larger, wider color palettes); the older TGA cards had a 21030 revision TGA chip and nee' Brooktree BT463 and BT485 ramdac. The other BIG difference is that TGA2 cards were built with a VGA ROM onboard and just enough (~64k) video ram for VGA text display modes. The rest of the display memory (16MB on my 4D20) is only available in TGA mode, and TGA mode is only (meant to be) used by the X display server. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilkinson,Alex" To: "Wilko Bulte" Cc: "Peter Jeremy" ; "Andrew M. Miklic" ; Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 2:04 PM Subject: Re: TGA driver available... > > what is a TGA2 card ? > > > On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > wkb:>>This week I obtained a AlphaStation 500 with a TGA2 card. TGA2 seems > wkb:>>to work out of the box with 4.5R, I guess the TGAcard does VGA emulation or > > - Alex > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 15: 4:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF91637B417 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BN4ZJ25337; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:04:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:04:35 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound on AlphaStation 500 Message-ID: <20020312000435.A25321@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161004.A18420@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15501.4663.76473.479656@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15501.4663.76473.479656@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:23:19PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > Hi > > > > Anybody ever succeeded in getting the builtin sound to work on the > > AlphaStation 500? I got an AS500 this week and have been playin with > > it a bit. Sofar I can get the CS sound chip detected alright but playing > > sound results in "no interrupt, channel dead" messages. I used the > > ECU (yes, the ISA stuff hangs off a PCI-EISA bridge so you need to run > > the ECU) to set up things, and also checked the jumpers on the sound > > daughtercard (it has jumpers for the I/O range). > > > > Suggestions are welcome. > > It worked a few years ago when I had an AS500 on my desk. Good datapoint. Did it show up in SHOW CONF? Mine does not. I'm gonna try a AS500 at work to see what that one sez. > Blind guess: try setting the flags to 0x10011. I'll try. Do you per chance remember if you ran the ECU? If yes, what DMA/IRQ settings? > I think the key is to disable the use of 2 DMA channels & tell the PCM > code that its a "true MSS" Hmmmm. I want to get this working and then into my hardware document. Too silly one has to re-invent the wheel. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 15: 7:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5EE37B404 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2BN6nh05805 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:06:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: "alpha" Subject: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:09:46 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's from EBay; I hope I don't regret it.) I couldn't find any reference to this model on the Compaq site. If this thing sounds familiar and there are any gotchas I should know about, please let me know (probably best off-list). I recall reading an interview (?) in which JH? said that FreeBSD v5 will have much better SMP support. thanks, craig mailto:craig@cheetahusa.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 15:12:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146BF37B400 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2BNCL025403; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:12:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:12:21 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Craig Burgess Cc: alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from craig@CheetahUSA.net on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > from EBay; I hope I don't regret it.) Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the picture gallery on http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > I couldn't find any reference to this model on the Compaq site. If Sounds like a white-box NT-Alpha. No worries, FreeBSD does not care for NT-only and runs on it. Tru64 and VMS won't though. (without hacking that is) > this thing sounds familiar and here are any gotchas I should know > about, please let me know (probably best off-list). I recall > reading an interview (?) in which JH? said that FreeBSD v5 will > have much better SMP support. -current on Alpha 'currently' gives you premature grey hair. Please try -stable, that is pretty good these days. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 15:39:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1690937B405 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2BNcJlv088565; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:38:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2BNb4A2088556; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:37:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:37:04 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Craig Burgess , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the picture gallery on > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 22:59:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816A837B402; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2C6xAr26828; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:59:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:59:10 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Craig Burgess , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:37:04PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:37:04PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > > > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the picture gallery on > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? Hm, I think that was/is an XP1000? I'm not sure. Bl* marketing names. -- | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Mar 11 23:34: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776EF37B405; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2C7XZh06764; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: "Wilko Bulte" , "David O'Brien" Cc: "alpha" Subject: RE: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 23:36:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sure would be nice if there was consistency of part numbers, paint schemes, etc. From the "discussion" I first thought it might be AS1200 but it **was** described as "AlphaServer Ultimate Workstation" - which apparently was referred to as 533a(2) or 533au(2) - and the picture here (ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/uwdsheet.pdf) **does** look like it. (But so did the AS1200.) craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:59 PM > To: David O'Brien > Cc: Craig Burgess; alpha > Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" > machine coming? > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:37:04PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig > Burgess wrote: > > > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual > Alpha 21164 64bit > > > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm > Graphics." (It's > > > > > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the > picture gallery on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > > > > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > > > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? > > Hm, I think that was/is an XP1000? I'm not sure. Bl* > marketing names. > > -- > | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 0:29:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C4D37B419 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2C8Talv096171; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2C8SKUc096154; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:28:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:28:20 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Craig Burgess , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020312002820.A96091@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:59:10AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:59:10AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? > > Hm, I think that was/is an XP1000? I'm not sure. Bl* marketing names. Nope, the DUW isn't an XP1000 which you know looks like a Miata. The DUW "533au2" looks like a DS-10 in dark ?brown? colour scheme. There are many of these on eBay now. jeff@freebsd.org (our newest committer) uses one for his desktop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 0:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306AF37B41C for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2C8o1N64574; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F0B37B421 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2C8ltr64231; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200203120847.g2C8ltr64231@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 00:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Dumolo To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/35815: Can't install 4.5 for Alpha from the 4.5-install.iso. XF86336/Xset.tgz=45bytes long!! Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35815 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Can't install 4.5 for Alpha from the 4.5-install.iso. XF86336/Xset.tgz=45bytes long!! >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 12 00:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dave Dumolo >Release: 4.5 Alpha (downloaded ISO image) >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: Seems to be a packaging problem - the file Xset.tgz is damaged. 4.5-install.iso was downloaded twice (marathon job!!). Checksum OK. Where can I find a replacement Xset.tgz file? >How-To-Repeat: Try another installation!! >Fix: Not known - but make a new CD with a replacement Xset.tgz, I guess! >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 5:27:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BAA437B400; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:26:48 -0600 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:26:47 -0600 Message-ID: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Craig Burgess' , Wilko Bulte , David O'Brien Cc: alpha Subject: RE: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:26:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The 5305 was released by Digital as the "NT only" machine. Although it has SRM on it, it was only "certified" to run NT. In the Digital world, this first started with their StorageWorks products, but the RAID in the white casings was certified as "NT only". The blue and brown bricks were certified for all 3 platforms Digital worked on, NT, VMS, and Digital UNIX. That practice was the same on the Server products, hence why a Digital Server 5305 and Alpha Server 1200 were essentially the same machines. Just that the 1200 was brown, signifying that it was ready for all platforms. Actually, the whole Alpha Server line was a brown/beige color. The Digital Server line is white. Only towards the end did Digital make the blue Alpha Servers, now Compaq carries on with the blue AlphaServers. You may be surprised, they are probably the same machines inside. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Burgess [mailto:craig@CheetahUSA.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:37 AM To: Wilko Bulte; David O'Brien Cc: alpha Subject: RE: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Sure would be nice if there was consistency of part numbers, paint schemes, etc. From the "discussion" I first thought it might be AS1200 but it **was** described as "AlphaServer Ultimate Workstation" - which apparently was referred to as 533a(2) or 533au(2) - and the picture here (ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/uwdsheet.pdf) **does** look like it. (But so did the AS1200.) craig > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl] > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:59 PM > To: David O'Brien > Cc: Craig Burgess; alpha > Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" > machine coming? > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:37:04PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig > Burgess wrote: > > > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual > Alpha 21164 64bit > > > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm > Graphics." (It's > > > > > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the > picture gallery on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > > > > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > > > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? > > Hm, I think that was/is an XP1000? I'm not sure. Bl* marketing names. > > -- > | / o / /_ _ FreeBSD core team secretary > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 6:45:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147C37B650; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00815; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2CEWCV02702; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:32:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15502.4460.181824.718575@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:32:12 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Wilko Bulte , Craig Burgess , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? In-Reply-To: <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > > > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the picture gallery on > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? Yes. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 6:55:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61DB37B6AF; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00843; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2CEXTH02707; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:33:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15502.4537.435983.203793@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:33:29 -0500 (EST) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "David O'Brien" , Craig Burgess , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? In-Reply-To: <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020312001221.A25375@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020311153704.A88044@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020312075910.B26794@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:37:04PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:12:21AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:09:46PM -0800, Craig Burgess wrote: > > > > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > > > > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > > > > > > Sounds like an AS1200 (??). Can you check the picture gallery on > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/Alpha-gallery/ > > > > > > I think the AS1200 is the 5305. Is it white or blue? > > > > Is that the same as the Digital Ultimate Workstations? > > Hm, I think that was/is an XP1000? I'm not sure. Bl* marketing names. No, the XP1000 is the "Compaq Professional Workstation" The ultimate workstation is a 1200 rebaged in a blue case.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 6:56:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EAD37B905; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 06:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01003; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2CEcOo02713; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15502.4832.856852.697214@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:24 -0500 (EST) To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'Craig Burgess'" , Wilko Bulte , "David O'Brien" , alpha Subject: RE: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? In-Reply-To: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> References: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Schroeder, Aaron writes: > The 5305 was released by Digital as the "NT only" machine. Although it has > SRM on it, it was only "certified" to run NT. > In the Digital world, this first started with their StorageWorks products, > but the RAID in the white casings was certified as "NT only". The blue and > brown bricks were certified for all 3 platforms Digital worked on, NT, VMS, > and Digital UNIX. At least for some of the NT only boxes, the SRM was hacked to use a negative hwrpb->rpb_type. This allowed them to easily prevent Tru64 and OVMS from running on it. We just multiply by -1 when we find one of these.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 7:19: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C7637C2EF for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01864; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2CF6Hf02766; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:06:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15502.6505.850759.40163@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:06:17 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: "alpha" Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > So far I have this info: "Model 82-PBF5W-VA. Dual Alpha 21164 64bit > 533Mhz, 4 meg cache each... PBXGB-CA Powerstorm Graphics." (It's > from EBay; I hope I don't regret it.) > > I couldn't find any reference to this model on the Compaq site. If > this thing sounds familiar and there are any gotchas I should know > about, please let me know (probably best off-list). I recall > reading an interview (?) in which JH? said that FreeBSD v5 will > have much better SMP support. There is no SMP support in -stable for alphas, so v5 certainly has better support ;) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 7:34:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A4437B77B; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2CFNY628099; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:23:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:23:34 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Schroeder, Aaron" Cc: "'Craig Burgess'" , "David O'Brien" , alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020312162334.A28047@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com>; from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:26:45AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:26:45AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > The 5305 was released by Digital as the "NT only" machine. Although it has > SRM on it, it was only "certified" to run NT. > In the Digital world, this first started with their StorageWorks products, > but the RAID in the white casings was certified as "NT only". The blue and > brown bricks were certified for all 3 platforms Digital worked on, NT, VMS, > and Digital UNIX. Tru64 and OVMS will not run on the whiteboxes. There is a hack in the SROM that prevents this from working. > That practice was the same on the Server products, hence why a Digital > Server 5305 and Alpha Server 1200 were essentially the same machines. Just > that the 1200 was brown, signifying that it was ready for all platforms. > Actually, the whole Alpha Server line was a brown/beige color. The Digital > Server line is white. Only towards the end did Digital make the blue Alpha > Servers, now Compaq carries on with the blue AlphaServers. You may be > surprised, they are probably the same machines inside. NT Alpha is dead so that makes things easier. The blue boxes are mostly the same as the white ones, except for the SROM. contents. FreeBSD has no problem with either white and blue boxes. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 7:43:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from qescan1.qgraph.com (QESCAN1.qgraph.com [206.158.124.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BD9D37B721; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 07:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from 192.168.200.28 by qescan1.qgraph.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:33 -0600 Received: by sxsmtp1.qgraph.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:32 -0600 Message-ID: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB906A@waexch1.qgraph.com> From: "Schroeder, Aaron" To: 'Wilko Bulte' Cc: 'Craig Burgess' , David O'Brien , alpha Subject: RE: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Didn't FreeBSD just add support for the 5305 a couple releases ago? 4.4 or 4.2? I have a few 5305's at my disposal, those are speedy machines. -----Original Message----- From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:24 AM To: Schroeder, Aaron Cc: 'Craig Burgess'; David O'Brien; alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:26:45AM -0600, Schroeder, Aaron wrote: > The 5305 was released by Digital as the "NT only" machine. Although it > has SRM on it, it was only "certified" to run NT. In the Digital > world, this first started with their StorageWorks products, but the > RAID in the white casings was certified as "NT only". The blue and > brown bricks were certified for all 3 platforms Digital worked on, NT, > VMS, and Digital UNIX. Tru64 and OVMS will not run on the whiteboxes. There is a hack in the SROM that prevents this from working. > That practice was the same on the Server products, hence why a Digital > Server 5305 and Alpha Server 1200 were essentially the same machines. > Just that the 1200 was brown, signifying that it was ready for all > platforms. Actually, the whole Alpha Server line was a brown/beige > color. The Digital Server line is white. Only towards the end did > Digital make the blue Alpha Servers, now Compaq carries on with the > blue AlphaServers. You may be surprised, they are probably the same > machines inside. NT Alpha is dead so that makes things easier. The blue boxes are mostly the same as the white ones, except for the SROM. contents. FreeBSD has no problem with either white and blue boxes. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 10: 2:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CBF37B405 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CI2Clv090816 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:02:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2CI0v7i090814 for FreeBSD-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:00:57 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? Message-ID: <20020312100057.A90742@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com>; from Aaron.Schroeder@qg.com on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:26:45AM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Bl* marketing names. Here is another "new" one. What is an AS 7000? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2007863225 Looks like maybe part of the Rawhide family. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 10: 8:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0D237B402; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07410; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2CI7WV06494; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:07:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15502.17380.922357.430646@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:07:32 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha Subject: Re: Should I wait for 5-RELEASE for "new" machine coming? In-Reply-To: <20020312100057.A90742@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <1F095B0753FCD411857700010333058A03DB9052@waexch1.qgraph.com> <20020312100057.A90742@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > > Bl* marketing names. > > Here is another "new" one. What is an AS 7000? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2007863225 > > Looks like maybe part of the Rawhide family. Yes, it looks like a quad CPU "nt-only" 4100. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 12:31:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web13406.mail.yahoo.com (web13406.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C4837B417 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:31:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020312203149.49454.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.246.62.54] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:31:49 PST Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:31:49 -0800 (PST) From: Diego Montalvo Subject: Digtal 5305 To: FreeBSD-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a whitebox AS 5305 533Mhz and it is an NT box. I tried alot of FreeBSD builds, and found out that as of some months ago the only FreeBSD that would bootup and load was 5.0-20010721. FreeBSD installed fine, with the execption of a NIC conflict, I was not able to ping or even telnet with my LAN. On boot FreeBSD would detect the NIC but when I would log on, to no avail with the NIC. Diego __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 13:13: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0961A37B41E for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2CLC0M75263; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:12:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:12:00 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound on AlphaStation 500 Message-ID: <20020312221200.A62768@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020310161004.A18420@freebie.xs4all.nl> <15501.4663.76473.479656@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20020312000435.A25321@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020312000435.A25321@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:04:35AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:04:35AM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:23:19PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > > Hi > > > > > > Anybody ever succeeded in getting the builtin sound to work on the > > > AlphaStation 500? I got an AS500 this week and have been playin with > > > it a bit. Sofar I can get the CS sound chip detected alright but playing > > > sound results in "no interrupt, channel dead" messages. I used the > > > ECU (yes, the ISA stuff hangs off a PCI-EISA bridge so you need to run > > > the ECU) to set up things, and also checked the jumpers on the sound > > > daughtercard (it has jumpers for the I/O range). > > > > > > Suggestions are welcome. > > > > It worked a few years ago when I had an AS500 on my desk. > > Good datapoint. Did it show up in SHOW CONF? Mine does not. > I'm gonna try a AS500 at work to see what that one sez. > > > Blind guess: try setting the flags to 0x10011. > > I'll try. It works, somewhat. Good memory. Somewhat as in: plays one MP3, then reports 'play interrupt timeout, channel dead' when I play the 2nd one. Sometimes even the first one won't play. This is using the pcm driver on -stable. > Do you per chance remember if you ran the ECU? If yes, what > DMA/IRQ settings? I use IRQ10, DRQ0 port 0x530 > > I think the key is to disable the use of 2 DMA channels & tell the PCM > > code that its a "true MSS" I cannot get the ECU to disable a DMA channel. Did you see the sound interface in SHOW CONF? W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 17:33: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB72637B405; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:33:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2D1R6M38278; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203130127.g2D1R6M38278@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jhermes@infoglobe.com, naddy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/35653: alpha port of bison 1.33 hangs (devel/bison) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: alpha port of bison 1.33 hangs (devel/bison) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: naddy State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 12 17:23:51 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: bison requires the included libintl, which needs GNU iconv. I have fixed the port for now, until we upgrade our libintl port. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35653 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 19:56:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h013.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC03637B405 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 4504 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2002 19:56:06 -0800 Received: from 65.185.97.145 (HELO romulus) by smtp.directvinternet.com (209.228.33.220) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2002 19:56:06 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Mar 2002 03:56:06 GMT From: "Karl Waddell" To: Subject: Supported Platform Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:56:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1CA19.17843CE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C1CA19.17843CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To whom it may concern: I have a chance to purchase a DEC Server 3000 Digital Equip. Corp. Server, Digital Equipment Corporation Server 3000 Dual PII 333 with 512mb of Ram. Is it supported under 4.5 version of FreeBSD. 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When building the packages from /usr/ports/security I saw lots & lots of warnings. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Mar 12 23: 2:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C8237B400 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2D728c44439; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:02:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:02:08 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Karl Waddell Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Supported Platform Message-ID: <20020313080208.A44389@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kwaddell@directvinternet.com on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 10:56:06PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 10:56:06PM -0500, Karl Waddell wrote: > To whom it may concern: > > I have a chance to purchase a DEC Server 3000 Digital Equip. Corp. Server, > Digital Equipment Corporation Server 3000 Dual PII 333 with 512mb of Ram. ^--- Pentium II > Is it supported under 4.5 version of FreeBSD. Sure.. Intel version. Why are you sending this to the -alpha list? -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 0:44:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from corinna.its.utas.edu.au (corinna.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1E637B423 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 00:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from corinna.its.utas.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corinna.its.utas.edu.au (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10444 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:44:26 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200203130844.TAA10444@corinna.its.utas.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org From: Jeff Duckett Organization: University of Tasmania X-Originating-Ip: 198.142.190.187 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Jeff Duckett Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:44:26 EAST X-Mailer: EMUmail 4.5 Subject: subscribe X-Webmail-User: jduckett@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 6:13:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2752B37B404 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21287; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g2DED8231574; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:13:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15503.24180.465228.238940@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:13:08 -0500 (EST) To: Tom Sevy Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: App compatibility on FreeBSD 4.4-Release In-Reply-To: <000701c1ca45$7f228f10$070a0a0a@br> References: <000701c1ca45$7f228f10$070a0a0a@br> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Sevy writes: > Will nessus & nmap & nmapfe run (and how stable) on FreeBSD Alpha > 4.4-Release? > > When building the packages from /usr/ports/security I saw lots & lots of > warnings. I've run nmapfe & nmap. They seem to work on 4.5-stable.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 9:56:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from courriel.etsmtl.ca (courriel.etsmtl.ca [142.137.3.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EED37B416 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:55:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dactyl (ordi56.info.etsmtl.ca [142.137.4.56]) by courriel.etsmtl.ca with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GYFFZYTL; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:55:44 -0500 From: "Normand Leclerc" To: Subject: CDROM sector size on 4.5 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:55:35 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c1cab8$4722f0f0$3804898e@dactyl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1CA8E.5E4E96A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1CA8E.5E4E96A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if the CDROM sector size detection code has changed. I own a CDRW with a jumper that let me select the sector size (2048 or 512). It is set to 512 as this is the most convenient way for me to handle it. Lately, I tried to dump a CD ISO image on my hard drive but got a sector boundary error. I had to specify 2048 bytes of sector size to get dd to work properly. Is 4.5 different in that matter? Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1CA8E.5E4E96A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

  I was wondering if the CDROM sector size = detection code has changed.  I own a CDRW with a jumper that let me select = the sector size (2048 or 512).  It is set to 512 as this is the most convenient way for me to handle it.  Lately, I tried to dump a CD = ISO image on my hard drive but got a sector boundary error.  I had to = specify 2048 bytes of sector size to get dd to work properly.

 

  Is 4.5 different in that = matter?

 

Normand Leclerc

leclercn@videotron.ca

 

------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C1CA8E.5E4E96A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 14: 2:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7145B37B404 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roberto@localhost) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2AM85q21832 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:08:05 -0400 (CLT) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:08:05 -0400 (CLT) From: Roberto de Iriarte To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Machine Check while in PAL mode Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear FreeBSD`ers I have experienced the following problems while installing 4.5-RELEASE on an Alphaserver 3305. (AS 800) a) Neither the CD image nor the FTP site contain the XFree86-Setup Package. b) The Xfree86 port as delivered plainly refused to work and produced a suspicious Machine Check. So, i decided to give Xfree86 4.2 a try. Downloaded the sources, compiled, and voila.... Again the same Machine Check. Machine Check While in PAL mode PC = 1c778 Also, the offending server dumps Assembler to the /etc/X11/XF86config The resulting file is attached, FWIW BTW. I have tried the following PCI video adaptors. ATI All in Wonder (4MB) Matrox MGA Millenium (4MB) Both in 32 and in the 64 bit slot. Alas, the machine used to run Linux flawlessly, and has ran DU 4.0E (with an SRM hack to pretend it to be an AS 800) flawlessly as well System config Alphaserver 3305 500 Mhz 21164A 1 9.1 GB IBM SCA Drive 256 MB (both banks populated) Thanks in advance Roberto de Iriarte roberto@spock.cl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 14: 3:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB9537B416 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2AMO7g21898 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:24:07 -0400 (CLT) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:24:07 -0400 (CLT) From: Roberto de Iriarte To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Machine Check Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-126677341-1015799047=:21869" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. 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"unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 14: 9:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AD637B400 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2DM9mg64465 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:09:48 -0400 (CLT) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:09:48 -0400 (CLT) From: Roberto de Iriarte To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Machine Check Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-586874851-1016057388=:64399" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-586874851-1016057388=:64399 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear FreeBSD`ers I have experienced the following problems while installing 4.5-RELEASE on an Alphaserver 3305. (AS 800) a) Neither the CD image nor the FTP site contain the XFree86-Setup Package. b) The Xfree86 port as delivered plainly refused to work and produced a suspicious Machine Check. Then i installed 4.1 from the ports collection, and .... the same machine check. So, i decided to give Xfree86 4.2 a try. Downloaded the sources, compiled, and voila.... Again the same Machine Check. Machine Check While in PAL mode PC = 1c778 Also, the offending server dumps Assembler to the /etc/X11/XF86config The resulting file is attached, FWIW BTW. I have tried the following PCI video adaptors. ATI All in Wonder (4MB) Matrox MGA Millenium (4MB) Both in 32 and in the 64 bit slot. 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"unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 14:19:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from m8.boston.juno.com (m8.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0338937B404 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"RPj4xL2C9n/i07FNGPO3Om5VlhVMU/0wuTCwa2UfoKBRqX/X8s5rfg=="> Received: (from toivolr@juno.com) by m8.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id GVTKCHQG; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:17:40 EST To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: majordomo@FreeBDS.org Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:15:57 -0800 Subject: unsubscribe freebsd\alpha-digest Message-ID: <20020313.141558.-1745749.0.toivolr@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-438,441-463 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: toivolr@juno.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-alpha-digest On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:28:51 -0800 (PST) owner-freebsd-alpha-digest@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-alpha-digest) writes: > > freebsd-alpha-digest Thursday, February 28 2002 Volume 05 : > Number 283 > > > > In this issue: > RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A > RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A > Re: -CURRENT lockups > AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:14:51 +0100 > From: "Koster, K.J." > Subject: RE: Problem booting Alpha AS1000A > > Dear Don, > > > > > > / MUST BE FIRST. > > > > Is there any reason you would not put / first? > > > > I have actually never seen it done any other way. > > > I ran into this too. I had a 500MB disk, so I allocated 64MB for > swap and > "the rest" to be "/". That's how "/" ends up being second. > > Kees Jan > > ===================================================== > You can't have everything. Where would you put it? > [Steven Wright] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:22:43 -0500 > From: "Yuri Victorovich" > Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A > > BTW I kinda found the workaround. > Limited available memory with MAXMEM. > Now I hope it became rocksolid. > > Playing with MAXMEM and SIMMs rotation > will find and isolate bad SIMM when will > have time. > > Yuri. > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 16:29 > To: Victorovich, Yuri > Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: "unexpected machine check" on AS1000A > > > > Yuri Victorovich writes: > > Nope, seems that reseating, cleaning, rotating SIMMs doesn't > help. > > Is it a way to find which SIMM exactly causes the problem? By > those > > values that it loggs on "unexpected machine check" crash? > > > > Yes & we could also log more information for the correctable errors > too. However, doing this requires having sufficient documentation, > which I don't think we do. > > Drew > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:57:55 +0000 (UTC) > From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) > Subject: Re: -CURRENT lockups > > John Baldwin wrote: > > > >> If you have a HALT-key please press it and check your kernel > image > > >> to find out which code the pc is. > > > > > > lockmgr+0x844 > > > > Anyways, can you pull up gdb on your kernel.debug > > then do 'l lockmgr+0x844' to get the source line for that? > > (gdb) list *lockmgr+0x844 > 0xfffffc000038bf44 is in lockmgr (../../../kern/kern_lock.c:448). > 443 mtx_unlock(lkp->lk_interlock); > 444 panic("lockmgr: unknown locktype request > %d", > 445 flags & LK_TYPE_MASK); > 446 /* NOTREACHED */ > 447 } > 448 if ((lkp->lk_flags & LK_WAITDRAIN) && > 449 (lkp->lk_flags & (LK_HAVE_EXCL | LK_WANT_EXCL | > LK_WANT_UPGRADE | > 450 LK_SHARE_NONZERO | LK_WAIT_NONZERO)) == 0) { > 451 lkp->lk_flags &= ~LK_WAITDRAIN; > 452 wakeup((void *)&lkp->lk_flags); > > - -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber > naddy@mips.inka.de > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:30:31 -0000 > From: "Steven" > Subject: AlphaStation 200 SCSI woes > > Hi, > > My machine is an AlphaStation 200 (200 4/233 with 192 meg RAM) > > I posted a questions to freebsd-questions earlier this evening (to > which i > had no replies). I appologise if this is the wrong mailing to be > using, but > I have been finding it really hard to find any information relevant > to my > hardware. The original problem was about booting from the 4.5 alpha > cd > (namely the keyboard stops working when the terminal type menu comes > up). > Searches on google and reading the hardware.txt file were of no > help. > Finally I found the archieves for this list and know now its because > of my > graphics card not being supported. IMHO it would be *really* useful > to > mention this in the hardware file. Although I have learnt a fair bit > about > my system in the past 6 hours whilst trying to figure it out, other > people > might just give up. > > I haven't replaced the graphics card yet, but I did set SRM's > console env to > serial, and am booting over a serial cable. My problem now is that > when I > select standard install from sysinstall, I get: > > lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq Message > qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk > xNo disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being > x > xproperly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the > x > xDocumentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem. > x > tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq(100%)qqu > x [ OK ] > x > mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq[ Press enter or space > ]qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj > > My machine is supported, according to the Hardware.txt file. During > the boot > up, my harddisk does show up (as da0). > > As far as I know, the hardware is as it was when purchased > originally. I got > the machine earlier today from my university who have been using it > as an > SMTP server for donkeys years. I don't know what its previous OS > was, they > stuck Redhat Linux on it before getting rid of it (which appears to > work > fine). I upgraded the firmware to the latest version earlier whilst > trying > to figure out my first problem, its now V7.0-9 (Mar 18 1999 > 13:41:11). > > During the start of sysinstall when it does the probing I did notice > something which could be of a problem. I don't know however what to > do about > it. > > I enclose with this email a full output of the bootup with -v > option. After > that is pasted a small selection of sysinstalls probing session. If > someone > can help me, I'd be most appreciative. I've installed Fbsd numerous > times on > i386 machines without problems. After 7 years of i386 *nix > ownership, now > that I've got my first real unix box I'm determined not to desecrate > it by > installing linux! :-) > > Thanks > > Steven > > ff.fe.fd.fc.fb.fa.f9.f8.f7.f6.f5. > ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.....e5. > V7.0-9, built on Mar 18 1999 at 13:41:11 > >>>boot dka400 > (boot dka400.4.0.6.0 -flags 0) > block 0 of dka400.4.0.6.0 is a valid boot block > reading 375 blocks from dka400.4.0.6.0 > bootstrap code read in > base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 2ee00 > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > initializing page table at 1e4000 > initializing machine state > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > Console: SRM firmware console > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010538 > OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM CD9660 boot, Revision 1.0 > (murray@axpbuilder.freebsdmall.com, Mon Jan 28 16:18:52 GMT 2002) > Memory: 196608 k > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > /kernel data=0x406778+0x2acb8 syms=[0x8+0x4e360+0x8+0x38928] > \ > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command > prompt. > Booting [kernel] in 7 seconds... > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > ok boot -v > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc0000331460... > Unrecognized boot flag '0'. > Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 29 07:52:50 GMT 2002 > murray@axpbuilder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC > AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") > AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz > 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. > CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 > OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e > real memory = 199278592 (194608K bytes) > Physical memory chunk(s): > 0x00af8000 - 0x0bff5fff, 189784064 bytes (23167 pages) > avail memory = 184115200 (179800K bytes) > Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000adc000. > Preloaded mfs_root "/boot/mfsroot" at 0xfffffc0000adc0d0. > md0: Preloaded image 3276800 bytes at > 0xfffffc00007b80c8 > Creating DISK md0 > md1: Malloc disk > Creating DISK md1 > found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x02 > class=01-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=11 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00010000, size 8 > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82040000, size 8 > found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x84 > class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0002, revid=0x23 > class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=5 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00010100, size 7 > map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 82040100, size 7 > found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004, revid=0x03 > class=03-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 > subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 > intpin=a, irq=10 > map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 88000000, size 27 > pci0: on pcib0 > sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82040000-0x820400ff irq 11 at > device > 6.0 on pci0 > sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver > sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. > sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) > 00/00/00/00/00/00 > sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) > 03/c8/00/00/08/00 > sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 265 msec, 33540 KHz > sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 280 msec, 31744 KHz > sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 281 msec, 31631 KHz > sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > Bus Modes: Bus Park, Resource Lock, > IDE controller: Secondary (170h-177h,376h,377h) > Floppy controller: 370h,371h > Floppy controller: 372h-377h > Keyboard controller: 60h,62h,64h,66h > RTC: 70h-77h > Configuration RAM: 0C00h,0800h-08FFh > Port 92: enabled > isa0: on isab0 > de0: port 0x10100-0x1017f mem > 0x82040100-0x8204017f > irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 > de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 > de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 > de0: address 08:00:2b:e7:53:a5 > bpf: de0 attached > pci0: (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004) at 13.0 irq 10 > Trying Read_Port at 203 > Trying Read_Port at 243 > Trying Read_Port at 283 > Trying Read_Port at 2c3 > Trying Read_Port at 303 > Trying Read_Port at 343 > Trying Read_Port at 383 > Trying Read_Port at 3c3 > isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices > isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on > isa0 > fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 > kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 > kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 > kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 > kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 > atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0003 > atkbd: keyboard ID 0x83ab (2) > kbdc: RESET_KBD return code:00fa > kbdc: RESET_KBD status:00aa > kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x0, flags:0x1d0000 > atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 > psm0: current command byte:0043 > kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 > kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fa > kbdc: RESET_AUX status:00aa > kbdc: RESET_AUX ID:0000 > psm: status 00 02 64 > psm: status 00 00 64 > psm: status 00 03 64 > psm: status 00 03 64 > psm: data 08 00 00 > psm: status 10 00 64 > psm: status 00 02 64 > psm: data 08 00 00 > psm: status 00 02 64 > psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 > psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 > psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons > psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 > psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 > vga0: failed to probe on isa0 > sc0: no video adapter found. > sc0: failed to probe on isa0 > mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 > Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 233348360 Hz (firmware 233100233 > Hz) > sio0: irq maps: 0x61 0x70 0x60 0x60 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 > sio1: reserved for low-level i/o > sio1 failed to probe at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x50 on isa0 > ppc0: using extended I/O port range > ppc0: SPP > ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa0 > ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode > plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. > lpt0: on ppbus0 > lpt0: Polled port > ppi0: on ppbus0 > ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 > isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices > Timecounter "alpha" frequency 233348360 Hz > bpf: lo0 attached > bpf: ppp0 attached > bpf: sl0 attached > bpf: faith0 attached > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. > de0: autosense failed: cable problem? > (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 > (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 > (probe4:sym0:0:4:0): Invalid field in CDB sks:c8,1 > Creating DISK da0 > Creating DISK cd0 > pass0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > pass0: Serial Number 341523822353 > pass0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > pass1 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > pass1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > pass1: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: Serial Number 341523822353 > da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) > da0: 1001MB (2050860 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 1001C) > cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) > cd0: cd present [1304896 x 512 byte records] > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c > md0: invalid primary partition table: no magic > WARNING: clock gained 7335 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! > start_init: trying /sbin/init > start_init: trying /sbin/oinit > start_init: trying /sbin/init.bak > start_init: trying /stand/sysinstall > /stand/sysinstall running as init on serial console > > These are the predefined terminal types available to > sysinstall when running stand-alone. Please choose the > closest match for your particular terminal. > > 1 ...................... Standard ANSI terminal. > 2 ...................... VT100 or compatible terminal. > 3 ...................... FreeBSD system console (color). > 4 ...................... FreeBSD system console (monochrome). > > 5 ...................... xterm terminal emulator. > > Your choice: (1-5) > > > - > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > - ------- > > > da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 > da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 > da0: raw partition size != slice size > da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 > da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 > da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic > da0: raw partition size != slice size > da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 > da0c: start 0, end 4294967295, size 0 > da0: raw partition size != slice size > da0: start 0, end 2050859, size 2050860 > > ------------------------------ > > End of freebsd-alpha-digest V5 #283 > *********************************** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with unsubscribe freebsd-alpha-digest in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Mar 13 14:22:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout6.nyroc.rr.com (mailout6-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88D637B405 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail4.nycap.rr.com (mail4-1 [24.92.226.200]) by mailout6.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id g2DMMQu21926 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ender.tmmz.net ([24.169.220.126]) by mail4.nycap.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:22:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:21:36 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Zahorik X-X-Sender: matt@ender.tmmz.net To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: List maintainer? 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In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Zahorik writes: > How can one contact the list maintainer? > > Repeated e-mails to majordomo@freebsd.org have failed to unsubscribe me > from the list. No response, error or otherwise. Maybe you're not getting any response because mail to your return address bounces. At what address are you getting the mail? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Mar 14 20:55:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB3037B405 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2F4tPlv081847; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:55:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2F4s9GS081815; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:54:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:54:09 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tom Sevy Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X Message-ID: <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br>; from tsevy@comcast.net on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:16:47PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:16:47PM -0500, Tom Sevy wrote: > 1) Is there another Video card I can/should try that SRM won't gripe about Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata SRM. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 15 0:36:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FC537B400; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2F8ahv08904; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:36:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:36:43 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Tom Sevy , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X Message-ID: <20020315093643.A8828@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br> <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:16:47PM -0500, Tom Sevy wrote: > > 1) Is there another Video card I can/should try that SRM won't gripe about > > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata SRM. Millenium -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 15 1:53:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gnah.bolet.org (gnah.bolet.org [80.65.226.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609FB37B419 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pornin@localhost) by gnah.bolet.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2F9rFA67101 for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:53:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pornin) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:53:14 +0100 From: Thomas Pornin To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X Message-ID: <20020315105313.A67077@gnah.bolet.org> References: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br> <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata SRM. For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on Miata SRM. With 4MB video RAM, you can get 1152x900 and 32-bit depth under X11. I could not get it to work in 24-bit, though. It was some time ago, maybe recent XFree servers can do better. --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 15 2: 8:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A8C37B417 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2FA8blv050310; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:08:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g2FA7Eoj050303; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:07:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:07:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Thomas Pornin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X Message-ID: <20020315020714.A50254@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br> <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020315105313.A67077@gnah.bolet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020315105313.A67077@gnah.bolet.org>; from pornin@bolet.org on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:53:14AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Thomas Pornin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata SRM. > > For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on Miata SRM. I don't remember, can you put a Millenium-II in a 64-bit slot? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 15 9:36:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2807F37B4A4; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2FHaLN10200; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:36:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:36:21 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Thomas Pornin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X Message-ID: <20020315183620.C10030@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000501c1cbbf$151eb2d0$070a0a0a@br> <20020314205409.B81751@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020315105313.A67077@gnah.bolet.org> <20020315020714.A50254@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020315020714.A50254@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:07:14AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:07:14AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Thomas Pornin wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata SRM. > > > > For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on Miata SRM. > > I don't remember, can you put a Millenium-II in a 64-bit slot? Yes, in my experience. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Mar 15 14:42:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7355737B404 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 14:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from aromo.spock.cl (aromo.spock.cl [200.27.125.98]) by aromo.spock.cl (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2FMg7g06431; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:42:07 -0400 (CLT) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:42:07 -0400 (CLT) From: Roberto de Iriarte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Machine Check In-Reply-To: <15505.60.476631.531153@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Solved. It seems to have been a corrupted firmware problem! How could that be?! Maybe a side effect of the "srm hack" I reflashed the same v 5.8.16 firmware i already had, and suddenly, i could run all three X servers, that is, 3.3.6, 4.1 and 4.2 Thanks for the efforts I would strongly advise alpha owners with strange problems to update/reinstall firmware as a first, not last measure, in solving them Regards Roberto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message