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Hi, All!

Please read on ... also, I cvsuped again this morning
(EST) to make sure no additional patches hit the port.

--- Dexter Coffin <idnopheq@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm reporting a problem
> building 4.2.0 on 4.5 STABLE on alpha.  Here's the
> output ...
> 
> <snip>
> 
> [idnopheq@roshomon:/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4]$ sudo
> make install clean
> Password:
> ===>  Installing for XFree86-4.2.0,1
> ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on executable: xvinfo
> -
> found
> ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on file:
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/ddx.TXT - found
> ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on file:
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UBTI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
> - not found
> ===>    Verifying install for
>
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UBTI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
> in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi
> ===>  Configuring for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0
> (cd
>
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings
> &&  imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6
> -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config  -DTOPDIR=../../..
> -DCURDIR=.;  make Makefiles ;  make includes ;  make
> depend)
> making Makefiles in large...
> 	mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> including in ./large...
> depending in ./large...
> (cd
>
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/bdf/100dpi
> &&  imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6
> -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config  -DTOPDIR=../../..
> -DCURDIR=.;  make Makefiles ;  make includes ;  make
> depend)
> make: don't know how to make
> /usr/X11R6/bin/ucs2any.pl. Stop
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> 
> </snip>
> 
> Note that I did a 'make clean' before capturing this
> output.
 


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Hi -alpha team,

I received a AlphaPC164 (chipset 21172 (EB64+ ?), 265MB RAM, 500MHz) as
a donation and for experimental purposes.

I tried to install fbsd 4.5 (alpha iso image) but received a kernel
segfault after it had read the kernel off the CD.

Well, anyway. One or the oher versions will hopefully install and I hope
to be running fbsd on that machine soon. (any help of course welcome).

My point: since I will not be doing a lot on it, I could "donate" it via
ssh access for testing purposes - if this is an option for developers on
this list.

It would be connected to a 2mbit link.
Anybody interested? Would anyone use it for development and testing?

pls contact me if so,
greetings,

aaron.


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Apologies for the wide cross-posting, but this problem affects all of
these groups.  bison from the bison-1.33 port is getting stuck in an
infinite loop on alpha, which is causing all sorts of problems with
package generation.  For example:

  http://beta.freebsd.org/errorlogs/4-latest/aide-0.7.log

This is a showstopper for getting any reasonable set of alpha packages
for the forthcoming 5.x snapshot.  Can anyone look into this?

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:04:22AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Apologies for the wide cross-posting, but this problem affects all of
> these groups.  bison from the bison-1.33 port is getting stuck in an
> infinite loop on alpha, which is causing all sorts of problems with
> package generation.  For example:
> 
>   http://beta.freebsd.org/errorlogs/4-latest/aide-0.7.log

How old is the bison package?  Which gettext was it compiled with?
There is also a bison 1.34 now.
 
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On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:14:10AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:04:22AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > Apologies for the wide cross-posting, but this problem affects all of
> > these groups.  bison from the bison-1.33 port is getting stuck in an
> > infinite loop on alpha, which is causing all sorts of problems with
> > package generation.  For example:
> >=20
> >   http://beta.freebsd.org/errorlogs/4-latest/aide-0.7.log
>=20
> How old is the bison package?  Which gettext was it compiled with?

It was built during the same package run, i.e. in the last few days.
That tree has the new gettext, but I was seeing the same problem
before that.

> There is also a bison 1.34 now.

I'll test that to see if it fixes.

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:19:02AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> > There is also a bison 1.34 now.
>=20
> I'll test that to see if it fixes.

bison 1.34 still hangs.

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On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:20:30PM +0100, aaron wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi -alpha team,
> 
> I received a AlphaPC164 (chipset 21172 (EB64+ ?), 265MB RAM, 500MHz) as
> a donation and for experimental purposes.
> 
> I tried to install fbsd 4.5 (alpha iso image) but received a kernel
> segfault after it had read the kernel off the CD.

Would be good to know more about this.
I'm running a PC164 with 4.5-RC (16th Jan 2002).
Maybe a card you plugged in triggers this.

> Well, anyway. One or the oher versions will hopefully install and I hope
> to be running fbsd on that machine soon. (any help of course welcome).
> 
> My point: since I will not be doing a lot on it, I could "donate" it via
> ssh access for testing purposes - if this is an option for developers on
> this list.
> 
> It would be connected to a 2mbit link.
> Anybody interested? Would anyone use it for development and testing?

IMHO testing RELEASE images and/or tracking -stable/-current
regulary and report problems would help.

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Does the GENERIC kernel config have the correct setup for using both serial 
ports on the Miata (PWS 500au)?

I have console on this box using /dev/cuaa0 (as per standard), and I'm 
trying to use /dev/cuaa1 to console to another Alpha, but I'm getting 
"device not configured" messages.

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers,
Rob

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> 
> freebsd-alpha-digest      Sunday, March 17 2002      Volume 05 : 
> Number 293
> 
> 
> 
> In this issue:
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> Re: Machine Check
> Fwd: make install clean for XFree86-4 4.2.0 fails on alpha FreeBSD 
> 4.5-STABLE
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:38:25 +0700
> From: "Moissanite" <moissanitesource@eudoramail.com>
> Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0
> 
> <html>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" 
> CONTENT="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
> <title>Moissanite: More Fire and Brilliance</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> 
> <body bgcolor="#000000" LINK="#6699CC" VLINK="#6699CC" 
> ALINK="FF0000">
> 
> <table width="680" align="center" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"
> border="0" bgcolor="#000000">
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/truth_header.gif"
> width="500" height="45" border="0" alt="The Truth About 
> Moissanite"></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;</td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/jfire.jpg"
> width="680" height="564" border="0" alt="Fact - Moissanite delivers 
> more
> fire, brilliance and luster than any other hard jewel on 
> Earth."></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr>
>     <td align="center">
>       <table width="680" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="8" border="0">
>         <tr>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>         </tr>
>         <tr valign="top">
>           <td width="10"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">This unretouched photograph supports the 
> adage
> that "a picture is worth a thousand words". Here, a light source 
> over a
> similar sized moissanite and diamond placed in shallow water clearly 
> shows
> the superior fire and brilliance of this unique new 
> jewel.</font></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">And the picture is supported by measurable 
> facts:
> the GIA publishes the dispersion (fire) of created moissanite at 
> 0.104,
> refractive index (brilliance) at 2.65 to 2.69, and luster at 20.4%. 
> No
> other hard jewel measures up, not even a fine diamond. And only 
> moissanite
> and diamond are over 9 on the Mohs hardness scale.</font></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite jewels created by Charles & 
> Colvard
> are available in all popular shapes and sizes.&nbsp;</font>
>             <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"
> color="#FFFFFF"><a
> href="http://www.moissanitesource.com">www.moissanitesource.com</a>
>             is the place to buy moissanite jewelry on the internet. 
> Buy with
>             confidence at the best prices in the 
> world.&nbsp;</font></p>
>           </td>
>           <td width="10"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>         </tr>
>       </table>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;<br><br></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center"><img
>
src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/moissanite_logo_wht.
gif
> " width="277" height="66" border="0" alt="Moissanite Created By 
> Charles &
> Colvard"></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;</td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center">
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite created by Charles & Colvard is a unique 
> jewel,
> not a synthetic diamond.</font></p>
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite
>       Source is an authorized distributor of Moissanite.</font></p>
>       <p>&nbsp;</p>
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">If you wish to stop receiving these occasional 
> mailings,
> simply reply to this email with the word "REMOVE" in<br>the subject 
> line
> and we will remove your name and email address from our 
> database.</font></p>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
> </table>
> 
> </body>
> </html>
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:39:00 +0700
> From: "Moissanite" <moissanitesource@eudoramail.com>
> Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0
> 
> <html>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" 
> CONTENT="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1">
> <title>Moissanite: More Fire and Brilliance</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> 
> <body bgcolor="#000000" LINK="#6699CC" VLINK="#6699CC" 
> ALINK="FF0000">
> 
> <table width="680" align="center" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="4"
> border="0" bgcolor="#000000">
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/truth_header.gif"
> width="500" height="45" border="0" alt="The Truth About 
> Moissanite"></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;</td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/jfire.jpg"
> width="680" height="564" border="0" alt="Fact - Moissanite delivers 
> more
> fire, brilliance and luster than any other hard jewel on 
> Earth."></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr>
>     <td align="center">
>       <table width="680" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="8" border="0">
>         <tr>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="200"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>         </tr>
>         <tr valign="top">
>           <td width="10"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">This unretouched photograph supports the 
> adage
> that "a picture is worth a thousand words". Here, a light source 
> over a
> similar sized moissanite and diamond placed in shallow water clearly 
> shows
> the superior fire and brilliance of this unique new 
> jewel.</font></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">And the picture is supported by measurable 
> facts:
> the GIA publishes the dispersion (fire) of created moissanite at 
> 0.104,
> refractive index (brilliance) at 2.65 to 2.69, and luster at 20.4%. 
> No
> other hard jewel measures up, not even a fine diamond. And only 
> moissanite
> and diamond are over 9 on the Mohs hardness scale.</font></td>
>           <td width="200"><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"
> size="3" color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite jewels created by Charles & 
> Colvard
> are available in all popular shapes and sizes.&nbsp;</font>
>             <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3"
> color="#FFFFFF"><a
> href="http://www.moissanitesource.com">www.moissanitesource.com</a>
>             is the place to buy moissanite jewelry on the internet. 
> Buy with
>             confidence at the best prices in the 
> world.&nbsp;</font></p>
>           </td>
>           <td width="10"><img
> src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/shim.gif" 
> width="10"
> height="1" alt=""></td>
>         </tr>
>       </table>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;<br><br></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center"><img
>
src="http://www.moissanite.com/emailads/trade/031102/moissanite_logo_wht.
gif
> " width="277" height="66" border="0" alt="Moissanite Created By 
> Charles &
> Colvard"></td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td>&nbsp;</td>
>   </tr>
>   <tr> 
>     <td align="center">
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite created by Charles & Colvard is a unique 
> jewel,
> not a synthetic diamond.</font></p>
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">Moissanite
>       Source is an authorized distributor of Moissanite.</font></p>
>       <p>&nbsp;</p>
>       <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2"
> color="#FFFFFF">If you wish to stop receiving these occasional 
> mailings,
> simply reply to this email with the word "REMOVE" in<br>the subject 
> line
> and we will remove your name and email address from our 
> database.</font></p>
>     </td>
>   </tr>
> </table>
> 
> </body>
> </html>
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 20:54:09 -0800
> From: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:16:47PM -0500, Tom Sevy wrote:
> > 1) Is there another Video card I can/should try that SRM won't 
> gripe about
> 
> Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata 
> SRM.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 09:36:43 +0100
> From: Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:16:47PM -0500, Tom Sevy wrote:
> > > 1) Is there another Video card I can/should try that SRM won't 
> gripe about
> > 
> > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata 
> SRM.
> 
> Millenium
> 
> - -- 
> |   / o / /_  _   		wilko@FreeBSD.org
> |/|/ / / /(  (_)  Bulte		Arnhem, the Netherlands
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 10:53:14 +0100
> From: Thomas Pornin <pornin@bolet.org>
> Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> 
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by Miata 
> SRM.
> 
> For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on Miata 
> SRM.
> With 4MB video RAM, you can get 1152x900 and 32-bit depth under X11. 
> I
> could not get it to work in 24-bit, though. It was some time ago, 
> maybe
> recent XFree servers can do better.
> 
> 
> 	--Thomas Pornin
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 02:07:14 -0800
> From: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Thomas Pornin wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by 
> Miata SRM.
> > 
> > For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on Miata 
> SRM.
> 
> I don't remember, can you put a Millenium-II in a 64-bit slot?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:36:21 +0100
> From: Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
> Subject: Re: Older PWS 433a, X
> 
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:07:14AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 10:53:14AM +0100, Thomas Pornin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 08:54:09PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > > > Matrox Millenum-I (I know I mispelled that) is well liked by 
> Miata SRM.
> > > 
> > > For the record, the Matrox Millenium-II works well either on 
> Miata SRM.
> > 
> > I don't remember, can you put a Millenium-II in a 64-bit slot?
> 
> Yes, in my experience.
> 
> - -- 
> |   / o / /_  _   		wilko@FreeBSD.org
> |/|/ / / /(  (_)  Bulte		Arnhem, the Netherlands
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:42:07 -0400 (CLT)
> From: Roberto de Iriarte <roberto@spock.cl>
> Subject: Re: Machine Check
> 
> Solved.
> 
> It seems to have been a corrupted firmware problem!
> How could that be?!
> Maybe a side effect of the "srm hack"
> I reflashed the same v 5.8.16 firmware i already had,
> and suddenly, i could run all three X servers, that is,
> 3.3.6, 4.1 and 4.2
> 
> Thanks for the efforts
> 
> I would strongly advise alpha owners with strange problems
> to update/reinstall firmware as a first, not last measure,
> in solving them
> 
> Regards
> Roberto
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 06:27:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Dexter Coffin <idnopheq@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Fwd: make install clean for XFree86-4 4.2.0 fails on alpha 
> FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE
> 
> Hi, All!
> 
> Please read on ... also, I cvsuped again this morning
> (EST) to make sure no additional patches hit the port.
> 
> - --- Dexter Coffin <idnopheq@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm reporting a problem
> > building 4.2.0 on 4.5 STABLE on alpha.  Here's the
> > output ...
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> > [idnopheq@roshomon:/usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4]$ sudo
> > make install clean
> > Password:
> > ===>  Installing for XFree86-4.2.0,1
> > ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on executable: xvinfo
> > -
> > found
> > ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on file:
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/ddx.TXT - found
> > ===>   XFree86-4.2.0,1 depends on file:
> >
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UBTI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
> > - not found
> > ===>    Verifying install for
> >
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/UBTI__10-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz
> > in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi
> > ===>  Configuring for XFree86-font100dpi-4.2.0
> > (cd
> >
> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/encodings
> > &&  imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6
> > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config  -DTOPDIR=../../..
> > -DCURDIR=.;  make Makefiles ;  make includes ;  make
> > depend)
> > making Makefiles in large...
> > 	mv -f Makefile Makefile.bak
> > including in ./large...
> > depending in ./large...
> > (cd
> >
> /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi/work/xc/fonts/bdf/100dpi
> > &&  imake -DUseInstalled -DProjectRoot=/usr/X11R6
> > -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config  -DTOPDIR=../../..
> > -DCURDIR=.;  make Makefiles ;  make includes ;  make
> > depend)
> > make: don't know how to make
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/ucs2any.pl. Stop
> > *** Error code 2
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-font100dpi.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> > *** Error code 1
> > 
> > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4.
> > 
> > </snip>
> > 
> > Note that I did a 'make clean' before capturing this
> > output.
>  
> 
> 
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From: Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely8.cicely.de>
To: Rob B <rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Miata Serial Ports
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 12:20:00PM +1100, Rob B wrote:
> Does the GENERIC kernel config have the correct setup for using both serial 
> ports on the Miata (PWS 500au)?
> 
> I have console on this box using /dev/cuaa0 (as per standard), and I'm 
> trying to use /dev/cuaa1 to console to another Alpha, but I'm getting 
> "device not configured" messages.

The default flags for sio1 configure it for debugging.
You need to set the flags to 0x0.

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Today I plugged a Adaptec 3985 SCSI adapter into my NoName testbox
to connect a bunch of testdisks.
Whenever it initializes the PCI-PCI bridge it faults.
Is it a NoName specific problem or an alpha specific bridge
initialisation problem?
The bridge chip is an DEC21050 with 3 AIC7870 and 1 AIC7810 connected.
The card worked in a i386 FreeBSD box before and 2 identic cards are
still running in a current i386 system.

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FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Mar 13 13:03:35 GMT 2002
    root@cicely10.cicely.de:/usr/FreeBSD-2002-03-13/src/sys/alpha/compile/CICELY10
Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc000061a000.
DEC AXPpci
Alpha PC AXPpci33, 167MHz
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2
OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d
real memory  = 65036288 (63512K bytes)
avail memory = 57368576 (56024K bytes)
lca0: <21066 Core Logic chipset>
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040000-0x810400ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking
sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0

unexpected machine check:

    mces    = 0x1
    vector  = 0x670
    param   = 0xfffffc0000006048
    pc      = 0xfffffc00004f9ab0
    ra      = 0xfffffc00004f997c
    curproc = 0xfffffc000054ec88
        pid = 0, comm = swapper

Stopped at      badaddr_read+0x110:     mb

This is reproduceable with stable.

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Subject: Re: PCI-PCI bridge troubles on NoName
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:22:02PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:
> Today I plugged a Adaptec 3985 SCSI adapter into my NoName testbox
> to connect a bunch of testdisks.
> Whenever it initializes the PCI-PCI bridge it faults.
> Is it a NoName specific problem or an alpha specific bridge
> initialisation problem?
> The bridge chip is an DEC21050 with 3 AIC7870 and 1 AIC7810 connected.
> The card worked in a i386 FreeBSD box before and 2 identic cards are
> still running in a current i386 system.

Here is a verbose boot:
Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Mar 13 13:03:35 GMT 2002
    root@cicely10.cicely.de:/usr/FreeBSD-2002-03-13/src/sys/alpha/compile/CICELY10
Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc000061a000.
DEC AXPpci
Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2
OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d
real memory  = 65036288 (63512K bytes)
Physical memory chunk(s):
0x0063c000 - 0x03f0dfff, 59580416 bytes (7273 pages)
avail memory = 57368576 (56024K bytes)
random: <entropy source>
null: <null device, zero device>
mem: <memory & I/O>
lca0: <21066 Core Logic chipset>
pci0: physical bus=0
        map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010000, size  8, enabled
        map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 81040000, size  8, enabled
found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x01
        bus=0, slot=6, func=0
        class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
        intpin=a, irq=11
found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x03
        bus=0, slot=7, func=0
        class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0001, revid=0x02
        bus=0, slot=8, func=0
        class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0
        map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010180, size  7, enabled
        map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 81040180, size  7, enabled
found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0002, revid=0x23
        bus=0, slot=11, func=0
        class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
        intpin=a, irq=5
        map[10]: type 4, range 32, base 00010100, size  7, enabled
        map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 81040100, size  7, enabled
found-> vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0009, revid=0x20
        bus=0, slot=12, func=0
        class=02-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
        intpin=a, irq=9
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040000-0x810400ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking
sym0: open drain IRQ line driver
sym0: using NCR-generic firmware.
sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00
sym0: final   SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/00
sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 233 msec, 38147 KHz
sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 277 msec, 32087 KHz
sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 278 msec, 31972 KHz
sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11
PCI-ISA bridge with incorrect subclass 0x0
PCI-ISA bridge with incorrect subclass 0x0
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0
pcib1:   secondary bus     1
pcib1:   subordinate bus   0
pcib1:   I/O decode        0x0-0x0
pcib1:   memory decode     0xfff00000-0xfffff
pcib1:   prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff
pci1: physical bus=1

unexpected machine check:

    mces    = 0x1
    vector  = 0x670
    param   = 0xfffffc0000006048
    pc      = 0xfffffc00004f9ab0
    ra      = 0xfffffc00004f997c
    curproc = 0xfffffc000054ec88
        pid = 0, comm = swapper

Stopped at      badaddr_read+0x110:     mb

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:22:02PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote:

Bridge chips can be troublesome on Alpha (only on Alpha?? I doubt it)
E.g. a DEC Tulip 21040 did not work behind a bridge chip on an AS2100 Sable
Alpha. Not in SRM, not in Tru64 either. 

YMMV

W/

> Today I plugged a Adaptec 3985 SCSI adapter into my NoName testbox
> to connect a bunch of testdisks.
> Whenever it initializes the PCI-PCI bridge it faults.
> Is it a NoName specific problem or an alpha specific bridge
> initialisation problem?
> The bridge chip is an DEC21050 with 3 AIC7870 and 1 AIC7810 connected.
> The card worked in a i386 FreeBSD box before and 2 identic cards are
> still running in a current i386 system.
> 
> Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>         The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Mar 13 13:03:35 GMT 2002
>     root@cicely10.cicely.de:/usr/FreeBSD-2002-03-13/src/sys/alpha/compile/CICELY10
> Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xfffffc000061a000.
> DEC AXPpci
> Alpha PC AXPpci33, 167MHz
> 8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
> CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2
> OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d
> real memory  = 65036288 (63512K bytes)
> avail memory = 57368576 (56024K bytes)
> lca0: <21066 Core Logic chipset>
> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
> sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040000-0x810400ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
> sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking
> sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11
> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 8.0 on pci0
> 
> unexpected machine check:
> 
>     mces    = 0x1
>     vector  = 0x670
>     param   = 0xfffffc0000006048
>     pc      = 0xfffffc00004f9ab0
>     ra      = 0xfffffc00004f997c
>     curproc = 0xfffffc000054ec88
>         pid = 0, comm = swapper
> 
> Stopped at      badaddr_read+0x110:     mb
> 
> This is reproduceable with stable.
> 
> -- 
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Does anyone have a TGA card with a Bt463 RAMDAC (there is a rather large
chip on the card that should indicate in large letters either Bt485 or
Bt463) that they would be willing to lend me for testing, development, and
enhancement of the TGA driver?

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Hi all,

I'm trying to get the OSF1 client running, and I'm getting the following 
response:

erwin# ./setiathome
SETI@home client.
Platform: alpha-dec-osf3.0
Version: 3.03

<snip>

Welcome to SETI@home.
We use your email address to identify you.
Please type:
     1 to set up a new account (first-time users);
     2 to log into an existing account (returning users).
Your choice (1 or 2): 2
Email address: rbyrnes@xxxxx.com
gethostbyname: Not owner
Server host unknown


I do have the osf1 module loaded:

erwin# kldstat
Id Refs Address            Size     Name
  1    3 0xfffffc0000300000 2dda68   kernel
  2    1 0xfffffe0000b70000 20000    osf1.ko
  3    1 0xfffffe0000b96000 28000    linux.ko

I also get a similar result with the Linux client.  Do I need any special 
magic to get it to work?

Cheers,
Rob


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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 04:58:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

> This looks quite similar to alpha/35653 which has been closed.
> What version of the port are you trying to build?  Do you have iconv
> installed? =20

It may have been fixed after the recent switch back from iconv to GNU
iconv: at least, the aide package was built successfully just now
after updating the ports collection and rebuilding bison.  I've
restarted another full 4.x package run, so we'll see in a couple of
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Hi all,

Is the gnats db being used? I sent a bug report some time ago:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=alpha/35455

Its just slightly painful not to be able to compile isa nics into the
kernel, when you only have a few pci slots. :-/ I wish I had an AS1000A
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:27:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > This looks quite similar to alpha/35653 which has been closed.
> > What version of the port are you trying to build?  Do you have iconv
> > installed?  
> 
> It may have been fixed after the recent switch back from iconv to GNU
> iconv: at least, the aide package was built successfully just now
> after updating the ports collection and rebuilding bison.  I've

I cannot follow this at all.  Why was the port moved from using gettext
to using iconv and now giconv?  What is [g]iconv (I cannot really tell
from the pkg-descr) vs. gettext?

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:46:48PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:27:41PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > This looks quite similar to alpha/35653 which has been closed.
> > > What version of the port are you trying to build?  Do you have iconv
> > > installed? =20
> >=20
> > It may have been fixed after the recent switch back from iconv to GNU
> > iconv: at least, the aide package was built successfully just now
> > after updating the ports collection and rebuilding bison.  I've
>=20
> I cannot follow this at all.  Why was the port moved from using gettext
> to using iconv and now giconv?  What is [g]iconv (I cannot really tell
> from the pkg-descr) vs. gettext?

No clue..but see the above PR.  It happened back in r1.23.

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 09:46:48PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> > It may have been fixed after the recent switch back from iconv to GNU
> > iconv: at least, the aide package was built successfully just now
> > after updating the ports collection and rebuilding bison.  I've
> 
> I cannot follow this at all.  Why was the port moved from using gettext
> to using iconv and now giconv?  What is [g]iconv (I cannot really tell
> from the pkg-descr) vs. gettext?

Never mind, I traced the dependancies and figured it out.
The gettext included with Bison itself has a dependancy on iconv.

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 02:07:05PM +1100, Rob B wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to get the OSF1 client running, and I'm getting the following 
> response:
> 
> erwin# ./setiathome
> SETI@home client.
> Platform: alpha-dec-osf3.0
> Version: 3.03
> 
> <snip>
> 
> Welcome to SETI@home.
> We use your email address to identify you.
> Please type:
>     1 to set up a new account (first-time users);
>     2 to log into an existing account (returning users).
> Your choice (1 or 2): 2
> Email address: rbyrnes@xxxxx.com
> gethostbyname: Not owner
> Server host unknown
> 
> 
> I do have the osf1 module loaded:
> 
> erwin# kldstat
> Id Refs Address            Size     Name
>  1    3 0xfffffc0000300000 2dda68   kernel
>  2    1 0xfffffe0000b70000 20000    osf1.ko
>  3    1 0xfffffe0000b96000 28000    linux.ko
> 
> I also get a similar result with the Linux client.  Do I need any special 
> magic to get it to work?

You may want to check your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts.
AFAIK the osf1 libs are more sensible about propper syntax.

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Subject: Re: PCI-PCI bridge troubles on NoName
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On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Bernd Walter wrote:

> Today I plugged a Adaptec 3985 SCSI adapter into my NoName testbox
> to connect a bunch of testdisks.
> Whenever it initializes the PCI-PCI bridge it faults.
> Is it a NoName specific problem or an alpha specific bridge
> initialisation problem?
> The bridge chip is an DEC21050 with 3 AIC7870 and 1 AIC7810 connected.
> The card worked in a i386 FreeBSD box before and 2 identic cards are
> still running in a current i386 system.

I don't think anyone has ever put a PCI-PCI bridge into a noname before.
It wouldn't surprise me if there were problems with the pci config-space
i/o in lca_pci.c.

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Bernd Walter writes:
 > On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 02:07:05PM +1100, Rob B wrote:
 > > Hi all,
 > > 
 > > I'm trying to get the OSF1 client running, and I'm getting the following 
 > > response:
 > > 
 > > erwin# ./setiathome
 > > SETI@home client.
 > > Platform: alpha-dec-osf3.0
 > > Version: 3.03
 > > 
 > > <snip>
 > > 
 > > Welcome to SETI@home.
 > > We use your email address to identify you.
 > > Please type:
 > >     1 to set up a new account (first-time users);
 > >     2 to log into an existing account (returning users).
 > > Your choice (1 or 2): 2
 > > Email address: rbyrnes@xxxxx.com
 > > gethostbyname: Not owner
 > > Server host unknown
 > > 
 > > 
 > > I do have the osf1 module loaded:
 > > 
 > > erwin# kldstat
 > > Id Refs Address            Size     Name
 > >  1    3 0xfffffc0000300000 2dda68   kernel
 > >  2    1 0xfffffe0000b70000 20000    osf1.ko
 > >  3    1 0xfffffe0000b96000 28000    linux.ko
 > > 
 > > I also get a similar result with the Linux client.  Do I need any special 
 > > magic to get it to work?
 > 
 > You may want to check your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts.
 > AFAIK the osf1 libs are more sensible about propper syntax.

I agree -- it works fine here for today's -stable and a ~1 month old
-stable:

		Welcome to SETI@home.
		We use your email address to identify you.
		Please type:
		1 to set up a new account (first-time users);
	        2 to log into an existing account (returning users).
		Your choice (1 or 2): 2
		Email address: nobody@loopback.net
		Logged in as foobar (nobody@loopback.net)
		Number of work units processed: 0
		Total CPU time: 0.000000
		Found data file: no. Found result header file: no.
		Getting data - connecting to server.

<...>

Cheers,

Drew

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I have. It doesn't work. I tried a Znyx 4 port card way back.


On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Doug Rabson wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Bernd Walter wrote:
> 
> > Today I plugged a Adaptec 3985 SCSI adapter into my NoName testbox
> > to connect a bunch of testdisks.
> > Whenever it initializes the PCI-PCI bridge it faults.
> > Is it a NoName specific problem or an alpha specific bridge
> > initialisation problem?
> > The bridge chip is an DEC21050 with 3 AIC7870 and 1 AIC7810 connected.
> > The card worked in a i386 FreeBSD box before and 2 identic cards are
> > still running in a current i386 system.
> 
> I don't think anyone has ever put a PCI-PCI bridge into a noname before.
> It wouldn't surprise me if there were problems with the pci config-space
> i/o in lca_pci.c.
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I just did a build of the new XFree86-4.2.0 port.   I've left the
binaries at http://people.freebsd.org/~gallatin/XF86-4.2.alpha.bwx/

As the name implies, these binaries use bwx, so if you have an ancient
ev5, ev4, ev45, etc, don't bother to try them. (grep BWX
/var/run/dmesg.boot  and if you can run these, you'll see something like:
CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=0 extensions=0x1<BWX>)

Also, these were built on a 4.5-stable machine with a world build Feb
10th.   They may or may not run on a 4.5-RELEASE box.  I have no easy
way of testing that.

Speaking of testing -- I have not tested them beyond running xterm, I
especially have _NOT_ yet tested the X server.  If these binaries blow
your machine up, please don't blame me.

Cheers,

Drew

PS:  If you are planning to build these yourself, you need to install
the imake-4 port/pkg.  If you use the imake from the XF86-336
distribution that comes with FreeBSD-4.x-RELEASE, the build will blow
up in interesting ways.

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So, I recently set up an alpha box running freebsd (first time for
everything) - not too painful.  Are there any web resources to refer to in
relation to the quirks and differences of the alpha port?


After doing all of my 'normal' fiddling with a new box I attached an
external disk case with two 9G viking II disks in it.  The alpha box
replaced an ia32 box as a server in my home, and the disks had ufs
partitions on them.

Turns you, and most of you probably already know this, that because of
partition table location differences between alpha and ia32 I couldn't
mount the disks.  The disk label seemed to be invalid.  It seems like
there must be more than just me that are affected by this problem.

Google found a conversation from 98 or so about this exact issue and a bit
of code-digging put me squarely in /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c in
the function readdisklabel().

It appears that a single sector is read off the disk, which should have
the label in it (which sector is controlled by LABELSECTOR which works out
to be 0 for ia32 and 1 for alpha).  The code works its way through the
resulting data looking for a valid table every sizeof(long) bytes.  If it
finds the right magic numbers, it does a bit of further sanity-checking
and then returns that data as the disklabel.

The problem here is that on ia32 we read only sector 0, on alpha sector 1.
If I wanted a 'readdisklabel()' that was cross-platform compatable, then
I'd either have to put a second code-block in, after sector 0 was checked,
then sector 1 could be checked etc...

As a quick hack to see if this worked, I merely doubled the size of the
buffer, read 2 sectors, starting at 0, and then let the rest of the code
work like normal.

I was able to mount and use my disks that were ia32-labeled. (shortly
after this, while moving data from one drive to the other, I toasted the
power-supply on the disk-enclosure - growl - one of the disks was hosed
beyond all recognition and the other one is still working fine days later
- fortunately this was my staging area for spooling stuff to tape and I
had most stuff on tape in one form or another...)

The diffs for 4.5-R are (approximately)


179c179
<       bp = geteblk((int)lp->d_secsize*2);
---
>       bp = geteblk((int)lp->d_secsize);
181c181
<       bp->b_blkno = 0 * ((int)lp->d_secsize/DEV_BSIZE);
---
>       bp->b_blkno = LABELSECTOR * ((int)lp->d_secsize/DEV_BSIZE);
190c190
<           lp->d_secsize*2 - sizeof(*dlp));
---
>           lp->d_secsize - sizeof(*dlp));



Note that I'm not suggesting we actually make this change in the code as
it is kind of ugly - it has a magic number, and now, instead of having
cross-platform code, we have code dependent on the specific implementation
of two platforms (ie it depends on ia32 table at sec 0 and alpha table
at sec 1)...


The above code 'works for me' and it meets my 'minimum-change' requirement
for personal-local patches to keep reapplying.

Would there be a better way to do this? one that would be worth commiting?
I'm willing to do some work on this to clean things up and make something
more proper but with the current mechanism in the code there doesn't
appear to be a 'right' way to do things :).  Also, I guess the 'right' way
to do things would be to put -current on the box, make the changes w.r.t
current and then get someone to MFC?  That isn't a really pratical
approach for me since harmony in my home is somewhat affected by hosing
the print-server and I dont really want to take the box down again while I
reinstall it's os...

Oh, and this doesn't take care of label writing either, but that code
looks less fun to munge, and has it's own issues already.

I know there are other efforts out there to port FreeBSD to different
platforms -- how is this type of thing handled there?  Should any possible
solution include more than just alpha and ia32?


Fred

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At 19:22 19/03/2002, Bernd Walter sent this up the stick:
>On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 02:07:05PM +1100, Rob B wrote:
> > I'm trying to get the OSF1 client running, and I'm getting the following
> > response:
> >
> > erwin# ./setiathome
> > SETI@home client.
> > Platform: alpha-dec-osf3.0
> > Version: 3.03
> >
> > <snip>
> >
>
>You may want to check your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts.
>AFAIK the osf1 libs are more sensible about propper syntax.

Thanks Bernd.  My /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf were set up correctly.  I 
found the problem by using hostname ... it returned a non-FQDN which I 
corrected in /etc/rc.conf

Cheers,
Rob


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In message <20020319150550.N17961-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>, Fred Clift 
writes:

>After doing all of my 'normal' fiddling with a new box I attached an
>external disk case with two 9G viking II disks in it.  The alpha box
>replaced an ia32 box as a server in my home, and the disks had ufs
>partitions on them.
>
>Turns you, and most of you probably already know this, that because of
>partition table location differences between alpha and ia32 I couldn't
>mount the disks.  The disk label seemed to be invalid.  It seems like
>there must be more than just me that are affected by this problem.

I'm busy with a project called "GEOM" right now, which will allow
cross-platform recognition of the various disklabel formats (and
more).

Right now, in -current, you can recognized Solaris disklabels on an
all platforms if you use the GEOM kernel option.

I need to rewrite the BSD disklabel and MBR methods to be endian/
bytewidth agnostic, but then other platforms will be able to recognize
those too.

But that is only the first bit of your trouble, next problem is to
read the actual filesystem, which might be of a different byteorder
persuasion than you machine.

NetBSD has added byteorder-agnostism into ufs/ffs but it is a major
obfuscation of the code and it does not yet cover the snapshot code.

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----- Forwarded message from Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> -----

From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
To: arch@freebsd.org
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	ia64@freebsd.org
Subject: per-arch __P removal done, please test review.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:14:07 -0800
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I've taken the time to do the grunt work of __P removal for several
arches, please take the time to test and let me know if I can commit
the deltas:

http://www.mu.org/~bright/__P/

I've got alpha, sparc64, powerpc and ia64 done.

thanks,
-- 
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 start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:15:08AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> I've taken the time to do the grunt work of __P removal for several
> arches, please take the time to test and let me know if I can commit
> the deltas:
> 
> http://www.mu.org/~bright/__P/
> 
> I've got alpha, sparc64, powerpc and ia64 done.

You just want to get your name in lights don't you??
I *ALREADY* told you 30 minutes ago on IRC that I have alread done Alpha.

PLEASE no one commit Alfred's patch.  It will conflict badly with my
effort here -- which is even being compiled tested.

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FWIW, alpha looks okay 2 me.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

> ----- Forwarded message from Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> -----
> 
> From: Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
> To: arch@freebsd.org
> Cc: alpha@freebsd.org, sparc64@freebsd.org, powerpc@freebsd.org,
> 	ia64@freebsd.org
> Subject: per-arch __P removal done, please test review.
> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:14:07 -0800
> Message-ID: <20020320181407.GF455@elvis.mu.org>
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i
> 
> I've taken the time to do the grunt work of __P removal for several
> arches, please take the time to test and let me know if I can commit
> the deltas:
> 
> http://www.mu.org/~bright/__P/
> 
> I've got alpha, sparc64, powerpc and ia64 done.
> 
> thanks,
> -- 
> -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org]
> 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology,"
>  start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
> Tax deductible donations for FreeBSD: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/
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> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
> -- 
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>  start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.'
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* David O'Brien <obrien@freebsd.org> [020320 10:21] wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 10:15:08AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > I've taken the time to do the grunt work of __P removal for several
> > arches, please take the time to test and let me know if I can commit
> > the deltas:
> > 
> > http://www.mu.org/~bright/__P/
> > 
> > I've got alpha, sparc64, powerpc and ia64 done.
> 
> You just want to get your name in lights don't you??
> I *ALREADY* told you 30 minutes ago on IRC that I have alread done Alpha.
> 
> PLEASE no one commit Alfred's patch.  It will conflict badly with my
> effort here -- which is even being compiled tested.

I didn't ask for anyone to commit it, I asked for the "portmasters"
to either bless or deny my patch.

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David O'Brien wrote:
> I *ALREADY* told you 30 minutes ago on IRC that I have alread done Alpha.

Wow, and people think using Perforce to communicate between
developers is responsible for creating a small clique of
people, limiting who can participate in the process...


> PLEASE no one commit Alfred's patch.  It will conflict badly with my
> effort here -- which is even being compiled tested.

Actually, shouldn't it be identical?

If it's going to be done, then Just Do It.  It's not like it
takes a PhD to remove __P(), or one to understand code where
it's at, for that matter.  It just doesn't seem that big a
deal... it's a lot of unpleasent grunt work.  Which seems to
be designed to lower the intelligence barrier and permit people
whose ability to understand code magically shuts down when they
see "__P()" to contribute their otherwise insightful and high
quality code to the project.

Alfred has made a name for himself by tackling unpleasent
grunt work as it comes up; so freaking what?  The:

> You just want to get your name in lights don't you??

comment is really unwarranted.

At a previous company, a manager got a bug up his butt that
getting rid of LINT warnings using FlexiLint would magically
make the code better, even though some of the casts that had
to be there to make that happen actually hid important
semantic conversions which constrained future use.  Making
the code LINT cleanly hid these semantics, planting land
mines for future programmers.


Rather than shut down engineering for a week while people
went off on this futile and (be honest) assinine exercise,
I and one other engineer took it upon ourselves to spend a
little over 4 hours "fixing" the code so that it LINT'ed
cleanly, after it was announced that the company would take
time out to "fix the LINT bugs".

Did we get some public kudos over it?  Yes.  But that was
not the intent of the exercise.  The intent of the exercise
was to get the LINT-harpies off the backs of the engineers
so that the make-work of passing some idiotic tool's idea
of what constitutes good taste didn't impact the developement
schedule.  The public kudos in fact detracted from the point
we were trying to make by somehow legitimizing the exercise;
we didn't care: we hadn't lost a week to all of engineering
diddling themselves.


Now I personally asked the __P() question I did because I
don't really track -current closely.  It moves too fast,
often back-tracking, and it's so significantly different
from -stable that there is just no way to reasonably develope
code for both.  And people wonder why most people are not
looking at -current, and why I and others feel that some
"Developer's Preview CDROM" isn't going to fix the problem.


If it had been OK to do the work in -stable, I would have
done exactly what Alfred did here, just to shoot the stupid
discussion in the head so that it didn't distract from real
work, and despite the fact that it puts the FSF more firmly
in our pants.  It would have also been worth it to me to be
able to minimize the deltas between -stable and -current, so
that there was some chance in hell of work on one being
relevent to the other.

PS: If you can't tell, I think this whole __P() thing is
a critically stupid waste of time.

-- Terry

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cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf  -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror  ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
../../../alpha/pci/t2.c: In function `t2_probe':
../../../alpha/pci/t2.c:340: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
*** Error code 1

Stop in /.amd_mnt/freefall/host/d/home/imp/src/sys/alpha/compile/GENERIC.

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M. Warner Losh writes:
 > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf  -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror  ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c
 > cc1: warnings being treated as errors
 > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c: In function `t2_probe':
 > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c:340: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
 > *** Error code 1
 > 

Until recently, alpha compiles never even made it this far with
-Werror..

What's the appropriate way to shut the compiler up?




Drew

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To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: (forw) per-arch __P removal done, please test review.
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* Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> [020320 14:13] wrote:
> David O'Brien wrote:
> 
> Alfred has made a name for himself by tackling unpleasent
> grunt work as it comes up; so freaking what?  The:

Yah, really...

> 
> > You just want to get your name in lights don't you??
> 
> comment is really unwarranted.

Goes without saying. :)

> At a previous company, a manager got a bug up his butt that
> getting rid of LINT warnings using FlexiLint would magically
> make the code better, even though some of the casts that had
> to be there to make that happen actually hid important
> semantic conversions which constrained future use.  Making
> the code LINT cleanly hid these semantics, planting land
> mines for future programmers.
> 
> 
> Rather than shut down engineering for a week while people
> went off on this futile and (be honest) assinine exercise,
> I and one other engineer took it upon ourselves to spend a
> little over 4 hours "fixing" the code so that it LINT'ed
> cleanly, after it was announced that the company would take
> time out to "fix the LINT bugs".
> 
> Did we get some public kudos over it?  Yes.  But that was
> not the intent of the exercise.  The intent of the exercise
> was to get the LINT-harpies off the backs of the engineers
> so that the make-work of passing some idiotic tool's idea
> of what constitutes good taste didn't impact the developement
> schedule.  The public kudos in fact detracted from the point
> we were trying to make by somehow legitimizing the exercise;
> we didn't care: we hadn't lost a week to all of engineering
> diddling themselves.

Then _I_ did this:

echo CFLAGS+=-O >> /src/root/make.conf

and broke the build for them because of various things that
gcc didn't pick up without optimization turned on.

oh the joys of working there. :)

-Alfred

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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> Then _I_ did this:
> 
> echo CFLAGS+=-O >> /src/root/make.conf
> 
> and broke the build for them because of various things that
> gcc didn't pick up without optimization turned on.
> 
> oh the joys of working there. :)

None of which, when fixed, caused the code to work any
differently than it had before.

-- Terry

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 02:12:42PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > PLEASE no one commit Alfred's patch.  It will conflict badly with my
> > effort here -- which is even being compiled tested.
> 
> Actually, shouldn't it be identical?

No.  Mine was tested on the GENERIC kernel build, and there was two cases
where the sed invocation did the wrong thing.

 
> If it's going to be done, then Just Do It.  It's not like it
> takes a PhD to remove __P(), or one to understand code where
> it's at, for that matter.  It just doesn't seem that big a
> deal... it's a lot of unpleasent grunt work.

IT DOES however, need to be compiled tested before committing.

-- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)

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I don't have an alpha machine handy to test this patch with.  I've
taken the time to compile GENERIC with it, but am unable to test it
further.

Thanks much...

Warner

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In message <15513.4041.407099.858575@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Andrew Gallatin writes:
:  > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf  -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror  ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c
:  > cc1: warnings being treated as errors
:  > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c: In function `t2_probe':
:  > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c:340: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
:  > *** Error code 1
:  > 
: 
: Until recently, alpha compiles never even made it this far with
: -Werror..
: 
: What's the appropriate way to shut the compiler up?

The line in question is
        if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
or const for some reason...

Warner

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Gn Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:31:48PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf  -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror  ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c
> cc1: warnings being treated as errors
> ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c: In function `t2_probe':
> ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c:340: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
> *** Error code 1


I looked at this today.  I don't know enough about the code to figure out
a good correct fix.  What is being complained about is the structure is
'volatile'.

This is the only remaining warning for compiling GENERIC.

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
> The line in question is
>         if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
> but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
> or const for some reason...

`tlbbr' is u_long.
`t2_csr' is "volatile", and is the source of the warning.

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On Wed, 2002/03/20 at 10:15:08 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> I've taken the time to do the grunt work of __P removal for several
> arches, please take the time to test and let me know if I can commit
> the deltas:
> 
> http://www.mu.org/~bright/__P/

The sparc64 part looks good to me, please commit it, except for the
changes to profile.h (which looks completely different in p4 and is
also de-__Ped there) and bus.h (which has most of the prototypes
removed in p4, as well as other changes). The p4 changes to those
files will be committed soon, and doing the de-__Ping now would just
cause unnecessary conflicts.

Thanks,

	- thomas

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Actually, no. There should still be an error in isp.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, David O'Brien wrote:

> Gn Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:31:48PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> > cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev56 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter -I/usr/include  -D_KERNEL -ffreestanding -include opt_global.h -fno-common -elf  -mno-fp-regs -ffixed-8 -Wa,-mev56 -Werror  ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c
> > cc1: warnings being treated as errors
> > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c: In function `t2_probe':
> > ../../../alpha/pci/t2.c:340: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
> > *** Error code 1
> 
> 
> I looked at this today.  I don't know enough about the code to figure out
> a good correct fix.  What is being complained about is the structure is
> 'volatile'.
> 
> This is the only remaining warning for compiling GENERIC.
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:

> I don't have an alpha machine handy to test this patch with.  I've
> taken the time to compile GENERIC with it, but am unable to test it
> further.
>
> Thanks much...

Works on alpha.

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David O'Brien writes:
 > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 > > The line in question is
 > >         if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
 > > but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
 > > or const for some reason...
 > 
 > `tlbbr' is u_long.
 > `t2_csr' is "volatile", and is the source of the warning.

Please: what's the proper way to cast away the volatile & shut the
f*ing compiler up?

FWIW, the code is checking for hardware which the docs state may be
present, but which nobody has encountered in the wild & which FreeBSD
is (currently) unprepared to deal with.  If anybody complains that
FreeBSD doesn't see the second PCI hose on a sable or lynx, that
"Found EXT_IO!!!!" printf in their dmesg will remind me of what's
going on.  As a last resort, the check could be removed, but I'd
prefer to leave it there.

Drew



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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:31:30AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
> David O'Brien writes:
>  > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
>  > > The line in question is
>  > >         if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
>  > > but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
>  > > or const for some reason...
>  > 
>  > `tlbbr' is u_long.
>  > `t2_csr' is "volatile", and is the source of the warning.
> 
> Please: what's the proper way to cast away the volatile & shut the
> f*ing compiler up?

Why is it marked "volatile" in the first place?  What will happen if we
make a 'u_long ltmp = t2_csr[1]->tlbbr;' and then pass in the address of
that?  Will we potentially be using a stale value that could cause us a
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David O'Brien writes:
 > On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:31:30AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote:
 > > David O'Brien writes:
 > >  > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 > >  > > The line in question is
 > >  > >         if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
 > >  > > but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
 > >  > > or const for some reason...
 > >  > 
 > >  > `tlbbr' is u_long.
 > >  > `t2_csr' is "volatile", and is the source of the warning.
 > > 
 > > Please: what's the proper way to cast away the volatile & shut the
 > > f*ing compiler up?
 > 
 > Why is it marked "volatile" in the first place?  What will happen if we

Because its sitting in hardware & other elemnets of the struct are
accessed in ways where I want to preserve ordering.

 > make a 'u_long ltmp = t2_csr[1]->tlbbr;' and then pass in the address of
 > that?  Will we potentially be using a stale value that could cause us a
 > problem?


__DEVOLATILE is what I was looking for.

Drew


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Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:

ad1: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B
ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2
ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0
Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
isp1: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
isp2: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
(probe1:isp0:0:1:0): Retrying Command(1)
Creating DISK da0
pass0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
pass0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
pass0: Serial Number 
pass0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da0: Serial Number 
da0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 17086MB (34992864 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2178C)
release_aps: releasing secondary CPUs
HANG

TSK.




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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:34:59PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:

Jeff fixed something in the starting of the secondary CPUs 
to get the console working on AS1200. I think it was yesterday.

Wilko

> 
> Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:
> 
> ad1: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B
> ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2
> ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0
> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> isp1: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
> isp2: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
> (probe1:isp0:0:1:0): Retrying Command(1)
> Creating DISK da0
> pass0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> pass0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> pass0: Serial Number 
> pass0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
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> da0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> da0: Serial Number 
> da0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
> da0: 17086MB (34992864 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2178C)
> release_aps: releasing secondary CPUs
> HANG
> 
> TSK.
> 
> 
> 
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Yes, I know.


On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:34:59PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> 
> Jeff fixed something in the starting of the secondary CPUs 
> to get the console working on AS1200. I think it was yesterday.
> 
> Wilko
> 
> > 
> > Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:
> > 
> > ad1: 3098MB (6346368 sectors), 6296 C, 16 H, 63 S, 512 B
> > ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, WDMA2
> > ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=2 cblid=0
> > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
> > isp1: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
> > isp2: driver initiated bus reset of bus 0
> > (probe1:isp0:0:1:0): Retrying Command(1)
> > Creating DISK da0
> > pass0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> > pass0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> > pass0: Serial Number 
> > pass0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> > da0: <VERITAS c0t9d0s6 active 2.00> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
> > da0: Serial Number 
> > da0: 100.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled
> > da0: 17086MB (34992864 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2178C)
> > release_aps: releasing secondary CPUs
> > HANG
> > 
> > TSK.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

>
> David O'Brien writes:
>  > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
>  > > The line in question is
>  > >         if (!badaddr((void *)&t2_csr[1]->tlbbr, sizeof(long))) {
>  > > but I don't know what the type of tlbbr is, but it is either volatile
>  > > or const for some reason...
>  >
>  > `tlbbr' is u_long.
>  > `t2_csr' is "volatile", and is the source of the warning.
>
> Please: what's the proper way to cast away the volatile & shut the
> f*ing compiler up?
>
> FWIW, the code is checking for hardware which the docs state may be
> present, but which nobody has encountered in the wild & which FreeBSD
> is (currently) unprepared to deal with.  If anybody complains that
> FreeBSD doesn't see the second PCI hose on a sable or lynx, that
> "Found EXT_IO!!!!" printf in their dmesg will remind me of what's
> going on.  As a last resort, the check could be removed, but I'd
> prefer to leave it there.

Perhaps badaddr should take a volatile pointer argument?

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Matthew Jacob wrote:

>
>
> Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:

Thats odd. My 4100 still boots, but then I might be a day behind you.

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Doug Rabson writes:
 > 
 > Perhaps badaddr should take a volatile pointer argument?


I think that could cause more trouble than its worth..  This one case
was just an accident of how I laid things out.

I think there is something else wrong with badaddr, though.. We
shouldn't be doing the read if we got a fault.  Eg:



Index: interrupt.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/interrupt.c,v
retrieving revision 1.64
diff -u -r1.64 interrupt.c
--- interrupt.c	11 Mar 2002 19:58:53 -0000	1.64
+++ interrupt.c	22 Mar 2002 14:04:19 -0000
@@ -300,7 +300,7 @@
 	/* disallow further machine checks */
 	mc_expected = 0;
 
-	if (rptr) {
+	if (rptr && mc_received == 0) {
 		switch (size) {
 		case sizeof (u_int8_t):
 			*(volatile u_int8_t *)rptr = rcpt;


Drew

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Matthew Jacob writes:
 > 
 > 
 > Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:
 > 
<..>
 > release_aps: releasing secondary CPUs
 > HANG
 > 
 > TSK.

I've just fixed this for UP - it was waiting for non-existant
secondaries to start.  From my reading of it, I don't see how
it could affect a 4100 unless the other CPUs are disabled.

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I might have one of the disabled.


On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

> 
> Matthew Jacob writes:
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Since checkins from yesterday, my UP XP1000 and SMP 4100 both hang at:
>  > 
> <..>
>  > release_aps: releasing secondary CPUs
>  > HANG
>  > 
>  > TSK.
> 
> I've just fixed this for UP - it was waiting for non-existant
> secondaries to start.  From my reading of it, I don't see how
> it could affect a 4100 unless the other CPUs are disabled.
> 
> Drew
> 


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