From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 0:18:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C0F37B41B for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3E7IlYm027946 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3E7HVQs027944 for alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:17:31 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Uh... can anyone justfiy these .stabs? Message-ID: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeffr and I finally managed to get a Gcc 3.1 compiled kernel to link! I a little frustrating -- it seems we once again Asm directives a new toolchain does not like. With Binutils 2.11 it was the ".loc" directives. This time ".stabs". W/o this patch: alpha/alpha/pal.s:75: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text alpha/alpha/prom_disp.s:67: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text Does anyone know why this patch would be bad? BTW, do we actually use pal.s for anything? A kernel links fine with out it. It seems we 100% use in-line macros rather than these routines. Index: pal.s =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/pal.s,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 pal.s --- pal.s 14 Apr 2002 07:07:09 -0000 1.6 +++ pal.s 14 Apr 2002 07:08:42 -0000 @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ __KERNEL_RCSID(1, "$NetBSD: pal.s,v 1.12 1998/02/27 03:44:53 thorpej Exp $"); __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/sys/alpha/alpha/pal.s,v 1.6 2002/04/14 07:07:09 obrien Exp $"); -inc2: .stabs __FILE__,132,0,0,inc2 +/* inc2: .stabs __FILE__,132,0,0,inc2 */ .text .loc 1 __LINE__ Index: prom_disp.s =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/prom_disp.s,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 prom_disp.s --- prom_disp.s 28 May 2001 09:52:20 -0000 1.4 +++ prom_disp.s 14 Apr 2002 07:02:16 -0000 @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ .text .align 4 -inc3: .stabs __FILE__,132,0,0,inc3 +/* inc3: .stabs __FILE__,132,0,0,inc3 */ .text .loc 1 __LINE__ /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 0:56: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3B437B416; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pool0042.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.42.42] helo=mindspring.com) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16werb-0005rp-00; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:55:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3CB935E1.79DC32F9@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:55:13 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Uh... can anyone justfiy these .stabs? References: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > Jeffr and I finally managed to get a Gcc 3.1 compiled kernel to link! > I a little frustrating -- it seems we once again Asm directives a new > toolchain does not like. With Binutils 2.11 it was the ".loc" > directives. This time ".stabs". > > W/o this patch: > > alpha/alpha/pal.s:75: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text > alpha/alpha/prom_disp.s:67: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text > > Does anyone know why this patch would be bad? I thought this symbol table entry was for identifying the source file during tracebacks, etc.? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 1:12:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15E3137B416 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1268 invoked by uid 11053); 14 Apr 2002 08:12:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2002 08:12:12 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:12:12 +0300 (EEST) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Subject: Re: Still about ISA NICs on FreeBSD 4.5/alpha In-Reply-To: <200204051526.g35FQFO8002844@intruder.bmah.org> Message-ID: <20020414110302.W872-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > Ahaa, that explains a lot. ;) Using your instructions I was able to > > compile ep, ex and fe0 into the kernel. Now I'll just have to find a > > suitable time to shutdown the server and test the cards. > > If and when you get these things working, can you drop me a note to make > sure the {hardware,release} notes for the Alpha get updated > appropriately? Thanks! I'd hold on with that for a moment... I was able to gather 14 different ISA NICs for testing with FreeBSD alpha. However, I was only able to get the kernel to recognize 3 of them, all of which were different models of 3com EtherLink III. With small modifications to files, files.i386, options and options.i386 I was able to compile these drivers into the kernel: cs, ep, ex, fe, le, sn. These would not compile: ed, lnc, sbni. Now I admit that due to time constraints, all I did was put a card in, boot the system and see if the card was recognized by kernel. If not, I moved on. Now I said the Elinks would be recognized, however they didn't exactly work: -cut- zem# uname -a FreeBSD zem.santala.org 4.5-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p2 #5: Sun Apr 14 10:21:50 EEST 2002 root@zem.santala.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ZEM alpha zem# ifconfig ep0 inet 212.226.173.33 netmask 255.255.255.248 zem# fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0xfffffe00002b78e1 a1 = 0xd a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc0000336d88 ra = 0xfffffx0000336d7c curproc = 0 ddbprinttrap from 0xfffffc0000336d88 ddbprinttrap(0xfffffe00002b78e1, 0xd, 0x0, 0x4) panic: trap panic Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: ldq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffe0006f07980> db> trace Debugger() at Debugger+0x2c panic() at panic+0x100 trap() at trap+0x620 XentUna() at XentUna+0x2c -- unaligned access fault (from ipl 4) --- epread() at epread+0x928 ep_intr() at ep_intr+0xb4 isa_handle_intr() at isa_hand_intr+0x2c alpha_dispatch_intr() at alpha_dispatch_intr+0x8c interrupt() at interrupt+0x1d8 XentInt() at XentInt0x28 --- interrupt (from ipl 0) --- procrunnable() at procrunnable+0x14 Lidle2() at Lidle2+0x8 --- root of call graph --- db> continue syncing disks... fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x58 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc00004b7164 ra = 0xfffffc00004bd590 curproc = 0 dbbprinttrap from 0xfffffc00004b7164 dbbprinttrap(0x58, 0x1, 0x0, 0x2) panic: trap panic Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: lpq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffe0006d075d0> db> trace (lost at least one row here) panic() at panic+0x100 trap() at trap0x0620 XentMM() at XentMM+0x2c --- memory management fault (from ipl 4) --- acquire_lock() at acquire_lock+0xa4 softdep_update_inodeblock() at softdep_update_inodeblock+0x30 ffs_update() at ffs_update+0x184 ffs_sync() at ffs_sync+0x1cc sync() at sync+0xb8 boot() at boot+0xc8 panic() at panic+0x110 trap() at trap+0x620 XentUna() at XentUna+0x2c --- unaligned access fault --- epread() at epread+0x928 ep_intr() at ep_intr+0xb4 isa_handle_intr() at isa_handle_intr+0x2c alpha_dispatch_intr() at alpha_dispatch_intr+0x8c interrupt() at interrupt+0x1d8 XentInt() at XentInt+0x28 --- interrupt (from ipl 0) --- procrunnable() at procrunnable+0x14 Lidle2() at Lidle2+0x8 --- root of call graph --- db> continue Uptime: 2m20s Automatic reboot in... -cut- Next I will see if I can repeat the panic I got with bridging. Any questions?-) -jake -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/jake/ System Administrator Cell. +358 40 720 4512 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 1:37:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 350EC37B404 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2111 invoked by uid 11053); 14 Apr 2002 08:37:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2002 08:37:13 -0000 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 11:37:13 +0300 (EEST) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel panic with bridge+ipfw Message-ID: <20020414113101.Q872-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Here's the other panic I promised: -cut- zem# uname -a FreeBSD zem.santala.org 4.5-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p2 #5: Sun Apr 14 10:21:50 EEST 2002 root@zem.santala.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ZEM alpha zem# (wait or generate traffic) fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x0 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff pc = 0x0 ra = 0xfffffc00004ff4c0 curproc = 0 dbbprinttrap from 0x0 ddbprinttrap(0x0, 0x1, 0xffffffffffffffff, 0x2) panic: trap panic Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: ldq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffe0006cffa50> Debugger() at Debugger+0x2c panic() at panic+0x100 trap() at trap+0620 XentMM() at XentMM+0x2c --- memory management fault (from ipl 1) --- -cut- All you have to do is compile a kernel with bridge and firewall, enable them with sysctl and wait or generate traffic. Here's the sysctl.conf: -cut- net.link.ether.bridge=1 net.link.ether.bridge_ipfw=1 net.link.ether.bridge_cfg=rl0:0,de0:0 -cut- The catch is that if you give one of the interfaces an IP address the kernel no longer panics. Any questions?-) -jake -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/jake/ System Administrator Cell. +358 40 720 4512 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 10:46: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6AA37B405 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3EHk2I10613; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:46:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:46:02 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Alexey Chupakhin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Supporting DEC 2000 /300 Jensen hardware Message-ID: <20020414194602.C10513@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <003401c1e380$91797620$a595a1c3@alex> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <003401c1e380$91797620$a595a1c3@alex>; from achupahi@uic.rnd.runnet.ru on Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:49:41AM +0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:49:41AM +0400, Alexey Chupakhin wrote: > Hello! > Is DEC 2000 model 300 still unsupported? Yes. > May users hope that freeBSD will be booted on Jensens soon? No ;-) I suggest you check out NetBSD/alpha. I know Jason Thorpe is working to get his Jensen to work on NetBSD. I sent him a Qvision EISA VGA card, but I don't know if he has already received it and had time to work on Jensen. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 14 16: 4:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8C437B400 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3EN4JYm051048; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:04:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3EN3321051047; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:03:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Alexey Chupakhin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Supporting DEC 2000 /300 Jensen hardware Message-ID: <20020414160302.A49469@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <003401c1e380$91797620$a595a1c3@alex> <20020414194602.C10513@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020414194602.C10513@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:49:41AM +0400, Alexey Chupakhin wrote: > > Hello! > > Is DEC 2000 model 300 still unsupported? That reminds me to go 'cvs rm' all the TurboChannel support for 5.0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 5: 2:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pyxis.eclipse.net.uk (pyxis.eclipse.net.uk [212.104.129.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11B037B404 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Bester (unknown [212.104.147.174]) by pyxis.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E0C97C17 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:01:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <006101c1e476$2a9b76f0$0500a8c0@Bester> From: To: References: <283a01c1e174$f29288b0$0500a8c0@Bester> <15541.51428.541308.526996@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Subject: Re: DP 1 on alphaserver 2100a install report Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:07:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1E47E.89361640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1E47E.89361640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for your help. quick run down. got hold of serial lead. switched over to serial console. moved box to other side of room :) (has to be mentioned cos that's no = small feat :) ) hooked up to terminal software booted machine started install. install went fine (YAY) Very happy Pink. for a while.... IPV6 problem raises it's head, solution build new kernel. build kernel gives error :( I'll detail the error later when I've grabbed dmesg and other such = output to give you guys something to work with. Still curious as to why = the graphics adapter output causes failure on 5.0 when it has always = been supported in previous releases I've tried. Anyway thanks guys we have an SMP OS on the box. Now I just have to get = it talking to the outside world on IPv4. As a reward here's a picture of them both immediately after I moved them = upstairs. http://www.whiterose.net/~mrpink/cam/archive/alphas.jpg http://www.whiterose.net/~mrpink/cam/archive/ramboards.jpg :) Pink ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andrew Gallatin=20 To: pink@eclipse.co.uk=20 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG=20 Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: DP 1 on alphaserver 2100a install report Can you provide the output of "show conf" from the SRM console, please? FWIW, I suspect there may be some sort of problem with your graphics card (like its an usupported TGA card showing a new failure mode). I suggest you try to insall using a serial console (96008N1, disconnect keyboard and power-cycle box to redirct console to serial port). Cheers, Drew pink@eclipse.co.uk writes: > I have downloaded 5.0DP1-alpha >=20 > I'm attempting to install on an DEC alphaServer 2100a >=20 > During initial boot from the CD the machine appears to hang with = screen > corruption. >=20 > All the initialisation seems to be fine until just after the SCSI = interface > check. >=20 > I get the waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle. > Then a list of the disk interfaces. > da0 to da5 > (there are six discs) >=20 > Then immediately after the last device check (da5) I get screen = corruption. > The screen corruption is different each time and seems to have no = familiar > pattern to it. >=20 > So I removed all but one of the disks to see if it was the disk check = itself > that was causing problems. > With only a single drive in place I get the same failure after da0. >=20 > Looking at a recent Dmesg from my i386 box it would appear the next = thing > after the disk interface check is mounting of the root partition. >=20 > I would assume this root partition mount point is on the CD and it is > failing on this. Am I correct in this assumption? >=20 >=20 > If anyone wants more info on this then let me know what you require = and I > will do my best to provide it. >=20 > If anyone wants to give me any hints or tips as to what I can do next = then > please do. I have a few things I'm going to try as soon as I get time = but > would welcome any others as my BSD experience is in my opinion very = limited. >=20 > Pink. >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1E47E.89361640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for your help.

quick = run=20 down.

got hold of serial lead.
switched over to serial=20 console.
moved box to other side of room :) (has to be mentioned cos = that's=20 no small feat :) )
hooked up to terminal software
booted machine
started install.
install went fine=20 (YAY)
Very happy Pink.
for a while....
IPV6 problem = raises it's=20 head, solution build new kernel.
build kernel gives error = :(

I'll=20 detail the error later when I've grabbed dmesg and other such output to = give you=20 guys something to work with. Still curious as to why the graphics = adapter output=20 causes failure on 5.0 when it has always been supported in previous = releases=20 I've tried.

Anyway thanks guys we have an SMP OS on the box. Now = I just=20 have to get it talking to the outside world on IPv4.
As a reward here's a picture of them = both=20 immediately after I moved them upstairs.
 
http://w= ww.whiterose.net/~mrpink/cam/archive/alphas.jpg
http:= //www.whiterose.net/~mrpink/cam/archive/ramboards.jpg
:)

Pink
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Andrew = Gallatin
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 = 6:33=20 PM
Subject: Re: DP 1 on alphaserver = 2100a=20 install report


<moved from -current>

Can you = provide=20 the output of "show conf" from the SRM console,
please?

FWIW, = I=20 suspect there may be some sort of problem with your graphics
card = (like its=20 an usupported TGA card showing a new failure mode).  I
suggest = you try=20 to insall using a serial console (96008N1, disconnect
keyboard and=20 power-cycle box to redirct console to serial=20 port).

Cheers,

Drew

pink@eclipse.co.uk = writes:
 > I=20 have downloaded 5.0DP1-alpha
 >
 > I'm attempting = to=20 install on an DEC alphaServer 2100a
 >
 > During = initial=20 boot from the CD the machine appears to hang with screen
 >=20 corruption.
 >
 > All the initialisation seems to = be fine=20 until just after the SCSI interface
 > check.
 >=20
 > I get the waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to=20 settle.
 > Then a list of the disk interfaces.
 > = da0 to=20 da5
 > (there are six discs)
 >
 > = Then=20 immediately after the last device check (da5) I get screen=20 corruption.
 > The screen corruption is different each time = and seems=20 to have no familiar
 > pattern to it.
 > =
 > So=20 I removed all but one of the disks to see if it was the disk check=20 itself
 > that was causing problems.
 > With only = a single=20 drive in place I get the same failure after da0.
 > =
 >=20 Looking at a recent Dmesg from my i386 box it would appear the next=20 thing
 > after the disk interface check is mounting of the = root=20 partition.
 >
 > I would assume this root = partition mount=20 point is on the CD and it is
 > failing on this. Am I correct = in this=20 assumption?
 >
 >
 > If anyone wants = more=20 info on this then let me know what you require and I
 > will = do my=20 best to provide it.
 >
 > If anyone wants to give = me any=20 hints or tips as to what I can do next then
 > please do. I = have a=20 few things I'm going to try as soon as I get time but
 > = would=20 welcome any others as my BSD experience is in my opinion very=20 limited.
 >
 > Pink.
 >
 > =
 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
 = > with=20 "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
 >=20

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------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C1E47E.89361640-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:32:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0198337B419; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nlsystems.com ([62.49.251.130] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16x6b6-000Fnv-0X; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:32:45 +0100 Received: from herring (herring [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g3FDWiTG000915; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:32:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:32:44 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: Any idea what this preprocessing was trying to do? In-Reply-To: <20020413160524.A43166@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > I had to make this change to build tsunami_pci.o with Gcc 3.1 because the > integrated CPP was treating "=op(" as a token vs. the three tokens it is. > > I really don't see why ## had to be used, as w/o the string concatination > the tokens are legal ANSI-C. I don't think that '##' is needed here either. Your patch looks fine. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:37: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE7937B404; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nlsystems.com ([62.49.251.130] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16x6fB-000MC8-0Y; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:36:57 +0100 Received: from herring (herring [10.0.0.2]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.12.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g3FDauTG000921; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:36:56 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:36:56 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: Uh... can anyone justfiy these .stabs? In-Reply-To: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, David O'Brien wrote: > Jeffr and I finally managed to get a Gcc 3.1 compiled kernel to link! > I a little frustrating -- it seems we once again Asm directives a new > toolchain does not like. With Binutils 2.11 it was the ".loc" > directives. This time ".stabs". > > W/o this patch: > > alpha/alpha/pal.s:75: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text > alpha/alpha/prom_disp.s:67: relocation truncated to fit: REFLONG .text > > Does anyone know why this patch would be bad? The stabs line is pointless as far as I can see. Just delete it rather than commenting it out. > > BTW, do we actually use pal.s for anything? A kernel links fine with > out it. It seems we 100% use in-line macros rather than these routines. There is some small chance that this file would be needed again if we were trying to support kernel builds without gcc (e.g. compaq's alpha cc). Pretty tenuous, I'll admit. For gcc, it should be removed from the link, I guess. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Phone: +44 20 8348 6160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:37:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A660F37B400; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02530; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3FDaVd53111; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:36:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15546.55134.925889.530084@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:36:30 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any idea what this preprocessing was trying to do? In-Reply-To: <20020413160524.A43166@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20020413160524.A43166@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > I had to make this change to build tsunami_pci.o with Gcc 3.1 because the > integrated CPP was treating "=op(" as a token vs. the three tokens it is. We probably don't need it. If you've tested it (or at least disassembled it) and it works the same, please feel free to commit the patch. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:39:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A834037B416; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02715; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3FDchT53122; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:38:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15546.55267.138287.596946@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:38:43 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uh... can anyone justfiy these .stabs? In-Reply-To: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > > BTW, do we actually use pal.s for anything? A kernel links fine with > out it. It seems we 100% use in-line macros rather than these routines. Yes, we converted (most? all?) of pal.s over to macros for efficiancy. I think we left pal.s in place for binary compatabilty with modules. You can feel free to nuke it for 5.0. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:41:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2F737B419; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02842; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3FDepR53134; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:40:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15546.55395.879733.224317@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:40:51 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Uh... can anyone justfiy these .stabs? In-Reply-To: <15546.55267.138287.596946@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <20020414001731.A27884@dragon.nuxi.com> <15546.55267.138287.596946@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin writes: > > David O'Brien writes: > > > > BTW, do we actually use pal.s for anything? A kernel links fine with > > out it. It seems we 100% use in-line macros rather than these routines. > > Yes, we converted (most? all?) of pal.s over to macros for efficiancy. s/macros/inline asm Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 6:42:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454AB37B400; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02861; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3FDfVx53137; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:41:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15546.55435.709684.393069@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:41:31 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Supporting DEC 2000 /300 Jensen hardware In-Reply-To: <20020414160302.A49469@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <003401c1e380$91797620$a595a1c3@alex> <20020414194602.C10513@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020414160302.A49469@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:49:41AM +0400, Alexey Chupakhin wrote: > > > Hello! > > > Is DEC 2000 model 300 still unsupported? > > That reminds me to go 'cvs rm' all the TurboChannel support for 5.0. Yes, please do. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 15 8: 9:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC94037B404; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3FF9Jj14232; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:09:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:09:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Supporting DEC 2000 /300 Jensen hardware Message-ID: <20020415170919.A14204@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <003401c1e380$91797620$a595a1c3@alex> <20020414194602.C10513@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20020414160302.A49469@dragon.nuxi.com> <15546.55435.709684.393069@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15546.55435.709684.393069@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:41:31AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:41:31AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David O'Brien writes: > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 07:46:02PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 10:49:41AM +0400, Alexey Chupakhin wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > Is DEC 2000 model 300 still unsupported? > > > > That reminds me to go 'cvs rm' all the TurboChannel support for 5.0. > > Yes, please do. And please let me know once done, so that I can axe the references to the Birds in my hardware docs for Alpha as well. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 16 6:25:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BD937B41A; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g3GDPbW91621; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:25:37 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:25:37 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Will Andrews Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/include mouse.h Message-ID: <20020416132537.GB87748@sunbay.com> References: <200204161312.g3GDCbx86487@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cmJC7u66zC7hs+87" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200204161312.g3GDCbx86487@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This unbreaks RELENG_4 alpha world. On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:12:37AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > ru 2002/04/16 06:12:35 PDT >=20 > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > sys/alpha/include mouse.h=20 > Log: > MFi386: Sony Programmable I/O Controller driver, for Sony Jogdial devic= es. > =20 > Forgotten by: will > =20 > Revision Changes Path > 1.16.2.2 +2 -1 src/sys/alpha/include/mouse.h --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vCZRUkv4P6juNwoRAsUQAJ9pm1NZ0haoFg1OP6/c3UlSAvlTfgCfbGoW 2QUUH6OUe+PVZkkM/NXsZlQ= =kCVI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cmJC7u66zC7hs+87-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 16 6:55:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from squall.waterspout.com (squall.waterspout.com [208.13.56.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B1437B404; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by squall.waterspout.com (Postfix, from userid 1050) id A06819B15; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:55:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:55:22 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: Will Andrews , alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/include mouse.h Message-ID: <20020416135522.GD89460@squall.waterspout.com> References: <200204161312.g3GDCbx86487@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020416132537.GB87748@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020416132537.GB87748@sunbay.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:25:37PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > This unbreaks RELENG_4 alpha world. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:12:37AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > ru 2002/04/16 06:12:35 PDT > > > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > > sys/alpha/include mouse.h > > Log: > > MFi386: Sony Programmable I/O Controller driver, for Sony Jogdial devices. > > > > Forgotten by: will > > > > Revision Changes Path > > 1.16.2.2 +2 -1 src/sys/alpha/include/mouse.h Sorry.. thought I'd tested everything.. I did a LINT compile, GENERIC, and a few other things... forgot about other platforms. My apologies to the alpha people.. btw, doesn't this affect other platforms too? :\ Oh wait, the other platforms are only available on 5.x, right? Please note, however, the above log is incorrect. sys/$arch/include/mouse.h [sys/sys/mouse.h on -current, which is why I didn't hear problems there] only received an additional protocol type, not support for the jogdial devices. Regards, -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 16 7:55: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CFE637B404; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g3GEsV102797; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:54:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 17:54:31 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Will Andrews Cc: Will Andrews , alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/include mouse.h Message-ID: <20020416145431.GE92673@sunbay.com> References: <200204161312.g3GDCbx86487@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020416132537.GB87748@sunbay.com> <20020416135522.GD89460@squall.waterspout.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V4b9U9vrdWczvw78" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020416135522.GD89460@squall.waterspout.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --V4b9U9vrdWczvw78 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 08:55:22AM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 04:25:37PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > This unbreaks RELENG_4 alpha world. > >=20 > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:12:37AM -0700, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > ru 2002/04/16 06:12:35 PDT > > >=20 > > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > > > sys/alpha/include mouse.h=20 > > > Log: > > > MFi386: Sony Programmable I/O Controller driver, for Sony Jogdial d= evices. > > > =20 > > > Forgotten by: will > > > =20 > > > Revision Changes Path > > > 1.16.2.2 +2 -1 src/sys/alpha/include/mouse.h >=20 > Sorry.. thought I'd tested everything.. I did a LINT compile, > GENERIC, and a few other things... forgot about other platforms. > My apologies to the alpha people.. btw, doesn't this affect other > platforms too? :\ Oh wait, the other platforms are only > available on 5.x, right? >=20 > Please note, however, the above log is incorrect. > sys/$arch/include/mouse.h [sys/sys/mouse.h on -current, which is > why I didn't hear problems there] only received an additional > protocol type, not support for the jogdial devices. >=20 The log is correct, in context of this header file. :-) Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --V4b9U9vrdWczvw78 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vDsnUkv4P6juNwoRAtPaAJ4mlHPtqK36sEyQr8aMlehzm/0OqQCdEB67 60JsCKSZ6vss5gnF5LEmJYI= =agEG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V4b9U9vrdWczvw78-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 16 10:33: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE4D37B405; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3GHWnn18742; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:32:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:32:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ** HEADS UP ** cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC src/sys/conf files.alpha options.alpha src/sys/sys fbio.h src/sys/dev/fb fb.c fbreg.h gfb.c tga.c src/sys/dev/gfb gfb_pci.c src/sys/dev/syscons scgfbrndr.c syscons.c syscons.h Message-ID: <20020416193249.A18724@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020413153625.A43996@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020413153625.A43996@hub.freebsd.org>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 03:36:26PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 03:36:26PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: FWIW: my AS500 continues to run it's TGA2 adapter just fine in VGA-compatibility mode. Wilko > This commit to complete adding the TGA frame buffer support was VERY > LIGHTLY tested. I do not have any TGA hardware, and use serial consoles. > > I want to get this into 4.6-RELEASE. Please quickly let me know if this > commit caused you trouble. > > ----- Forwarded message from "David E. O'Brien" ----- > Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC src/sys/conf files.alpha > options.alpha src/sys/sys fbio.h src/sys/dev/fb fb.c fbreg.h gfb.c > tga.c src/sys/dev/gfb gfb_pci.c src/sys/dev/syscons scgfbrndr.c > syscons.c syscons.h > Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 15:34:16 -0700 (PDT) > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: HEAD > > obrien 2002/04/13 15:34:16 PDT > > Modified files: > sys/alpha/conf GENERIC > sys/conf files.alpha options.alpha > sys/sys fbio.h > sys/dev/fb fb.c fbreg.h gfb.c tga.c > sys/dev/gfb gfb_pci.c > sys/dev/syscons scgfbrndr.c syscons.c syscons.h > Log: > Turn on TGA support. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 0: 9:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5C9337B405 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 00:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:09:47 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:09:33 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Subject: L2 cache disabled? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a LX164 wiht a 533MHz 21164A. I have the impression that the machine is performing below average all the time. I have earlier attributed this to the avoided use of -O2 for optimization, but lately I've been wondering if my L2 cache has been disabled because some things just run too slow for it to be an optimization problem alone. Is there a way to check if the L2 cache is disabled, if it indeed can be disabled? And is there a way to enable it again if it is disabled? - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 6: 8:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC19537B41B for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 06:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18826; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3HD7cO82864; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:07:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15549.29594.216376.886149@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 09:07:38 -0400 (EDT) To: "Idar Tollefsen" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: L2 cache disabled? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen writes: > > Is there a way to check if the L2 cache > is disabled, if it indeed can be disabled? You can run lmbench & see what it says about your memory bandwidth. Does it fall of at ~2MB? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 10:10:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6D137B417 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g3HHAA478162 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:10:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g3HH2x6e097997 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:02:59 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.1.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g3HH2vX05657 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:02:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3HH2v571383 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:02:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:02:57 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 21066A tester for cpu_idle needed Message-ID: <20020417170256.GC70839@cicely9.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The patch is available under: http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/lca_cpu_idle.diff It implements usage of the power management capabilities of 21066A and 21068A CPUs. As my LCA system is an 21066 I can't test it myself. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 10:29: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C0D37B419 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3224 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2002 17:28:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Apr 2002 17:28:51 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3HHSov81325; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020417170256.GC70839@cicely9.cicely.de> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Bernd Walter Subject: RE: 21066A tester for cpu_idle needed Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Apr-2002 Bernd Walter wrote: > The patch is available under: > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/lca_cpu_idle.diff > > It implements usage of the power management capabilities of 21066A and > 21068A CPUs. > As my LCA system is an 21066 I can't test it myself. We should also look into possibly using call_pal wfi when we are idle perhaps. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 11: 8:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AA137B405; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29001; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:07:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3HI7RV87134; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:07:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15549.47583.432868.403987@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:07:27 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 21066A tester for cpu_idle needed In-Reply-To: References: <20020417170256.GC70839@cicely9.cicely.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > > On 17-Apr-2002 Bernd Walter wrote: > > The patch is available under: > > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/lca_cpu_idle.diff > > > > It implements usage of the power management capabilities of 21066A and > > 21068A CPUs. > > As my LCA system is an 21066 I can't test it myself. > > We should also look into possibly using call_pal wfi when we are idle perhaps. I tried this last summer on my UP1000, but the electric meter looked like it was spinning just as fast as always.. If anybody has a good way of really measuring power consumption, this would be a good thing to test. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 11:14:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB77137B416; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3HIDu29001935; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:13:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3HIDuaW001934; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:13:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:13:56 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 21066A tester for cpu_idle needed Message-ID: <20020417201356.B1874@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20020417170256.GC70839@cicely9.cicely.de> <15549.47583.432868.403987@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15549.47583.432868.403987@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 02:07:27PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 02:07:27PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > > > On 17-Apr-2002 Bernd Walter wrote: > > > The patch is available under: > > > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/lca_cpu_idle.diff > > > > > > It implements usage of the power management capabilities of 21066A and > > > 21068A CPUs. > > > As my LCA system is an 21066 I can't test it myself. > > > > We should also look into possibly using call_pal wfi when we are idle perhaps. > > I tried this last summer on my UP1000, but the electric meter looked > like it was spinning just as fast as always.. > > If anybody has a good way of really measuring power consumption, this > would be a good thing to test. I do have Watt / Watthour meter here I could hookup to the DS10 or the AS500. Gimme a patch and I'll try it for you -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 17 11:20:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74A237B400; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g3HIKP179301; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:20:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g3HIGL6e098591; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:16:21 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely9.cicely.de) Received: from cicely9.cicely.de (cicely9.cicely.de [10.1.1.11]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g3HIGJX05716; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely9.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3HIGI171546; Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:16:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:16:18 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 21066A tester for cpu_idle needed Message-ID: <20020417181618.GE70839@cicely9.cicely.de> References: <20020417170256.GC70839@cicely9.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely9.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 01:27:54PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 17-Apr-2002 Bernd Walter wrote: > > The patch is available under: > > http://www.cosmo-project.de/~bernd/lca_cpu_idle.diff > > > > It implements usage of the power management capabilities of 21066A and > > 21068A CPUs. > > As my LCA system is an 21066 I can't test it myself. > > We should also look into possibly using call_pal wfi when we are idle perhaps. Andrew already wrote about wtint. He also wrote that that it didn't seem to have much effect on the 21264 machine on which he tested. As I found no sign of powermanagement capabilities in other CPUs than the latest LCA generation I don't think it's worth it. For the LCA case I want to export the variables via sysctl. That way you can tune the reduced and non reduced speed. The patch should only check if it works as promissed. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 11:16:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from teebar.directski.com (mauer.directski.com [193.95.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD3237B405; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directski.com (dermot.traveldev.com [192.168.0.50]) by teebar.directski.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3IIGYGk053489; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:16:34 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Message-ID: <3CBF0D84.F686F651@directski.com> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:16:36 +0100 From: Dermot McNally X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,de,fr,ga MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Moused broken on alpha Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Moused refuses to build on alpha because the symbol MOUSE_PROTO_JOGDIAL (defined in the Intel version of mouse.h) isn't defined. Defining it fixes the problem, but is this the correct fix? Nobody else seems to have been bitten by this one... Dermot -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dermot McNally, Chief Technical Officer, Directski.com dermot@directski.com http://www.directski.com - ski the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 11:58:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B785237BE69 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:57:30 -0700 Received: from 12.111.39.146 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:57:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [12.111.39.146] From: "Yuri Victorovich" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel boot hangs on DS7310: SCSI bus reset delivered Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 11:57:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2002 18:57:30.0619 (UTC) FILETIME=[E421BCB0:01C1E70A] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to install FreeBSD-STABLE 4.5 on Alpha DS7310. Kernel boot hangs in the middle. <...> Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered (noperiph:sym2:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered I know similar question was asked before but no answer was provided. I will be happy to provide the whole boot log but don't know how to do this on alpha. It's serial port doesn't work for whatever reason and this is just screen output. Boot floppies were taken from FTP 2 months ago. Any suggestions? Thank you, Yuri. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 12:36:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656237B425 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13653; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3IJa6X94705; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:36:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15551.8230.74491.785733@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:36:06 -0400 (EDT) To: "Yuri Victorovich" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel boot hangs on DS7310: SCSI bus reset delivered In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yuri Victorovich writes: > I am trying to install FreeBSD-STABLE 4.5 on > Alpha DS7310. I'm not sure what a 7310 is. Is it similar to a 7305? Eg, is this a white-box AS4100? > Kernel boot hangs in the middle. > > <...> > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle. > (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered > (noperiph:sym2:0:-1:-1): SCSI bus reset delivered > > > I know similar question was asked before but no answer > was provided. > > I will be happy to provide the whole boot log but don't know > how to do this on alpha. It's serial port doesn't work for > whatever reason and this is just screen output. What have you tried in the way of debugging the serial port problem? Are you using a null-modem cable (9600,8,N,1)? > Boot floppies were taken from FTP 2 months ago. > > Any suggestions? Sym cards have been known to exhibit problems on server class alphas running 4.x. This not the sym driver's fault; rather it is due to the hacky way 4.x deals with multiple PCI hoses (hose is DEQ term for "peer bus"). The failure mode usually involves lots of warnings from the driver about various sanity checks failing. The only suggestion I can make is to try the FreeBSD 5.0 Developer Preview #1. 5.0 has better support for the multiple hoses used in server class machines. As an added bonus, you'll get SMP support. See http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.0R/DP1/announce.html for a list of mirror sites, etc. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 13:57:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from deepthought.blinkenlights.nl (deepthought.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F9037B419; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by deepthought.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 825D515FA; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:36:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deepthought.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D2D245D; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:36:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:36:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Sten To: Dermot McNally Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Subject: Re: Moused broken on alpha In-Reply-To: <3CBF0D84.F686F651@directski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Dermot McNally wrote: > Folks, > > Moused refuses to build on alpha because the symbol MOUSE_PROTO_JOGDIAL > (defined in the Intel version of mouse.h) isn't defined. Defining it > fixes the problem, but is this the correct fix? Nobody else seems to > have been bitten by this one... If I am correct jogdial is the funky wheel on a vaio, which aren't made with alpha cpu's .... ( or hell has frozen ) -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 14: 6:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827FE37B41C; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16916; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id g3IL5ir99161; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:05:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15551.13608.689304.119550@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:05:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Dermot McNally Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moused broken on alpha In-Reply-To: <3CBF0D84.F686F651@directski.com> References: <3CBF0D84.F686F651@directski.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dermot McNally writes: > Folks, > > Moused refuses to build on alpha because the symbol MOUSE_PROTO_JOGDIAL > (defined in the Intel version of mouse.h) isn't defined. Defining it > fixes the problem, but is this the correct fix? Nobody else seems to > have been bitten by this one... The MOUSE_PROTO_JOGDIAL definition was forgotten about in the original MFC of some extra mouse support. ru caught the problem and added it to sys/alpha/include/Attic/mouse.h ( 1.16.2.2) 2 days ago. If you want to have everything pristeen, update your sources & rebuild world. If not, I'm sure your definition should be fine.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 18 17: 8:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21B437B416 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alcanet.com.au (8.12.1/8.12.1/Alcanet1.2) with ESMTP id g3J08CKT015357 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:08:12 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01KGQSMRZ3VK9S5GRZ@cim.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:08:07 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3J089I42866 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:08:09 +1000 Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 10:08:09 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: AlphaServer 400 question To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20020419100808.Z69202@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This isn't directly related to FreeBSD, but it's preventing me successfully running FreeBSD :-). I've acquired an AlphaServer 400 and the SRM is mostly failing to start. The POST is displaying (assuming D17..D10 are bits 7-0) D9, which indicates "system I/O (82378) test passed". The following test is "TOY (3287) test passed", but a TOY failure should generate speaker beeps (which it isn't[1]). Occasionally, it gets through to the SRM prompt without problem. I've tried re-socketing virtually everything. The TOY appears to have been replaced by a Dallas DS12887A. Unfortunately, I don't have any lying around to verify. Any ideas? Should I invest in a new TOY chip? If so, do I want a DS12887A, BQ3287AMT-SB2, BQ3287MT-SB2 or something else? [1] I checked to see if the speaker actually worked by trying it without any RAM, and the SROM dutifully beeped "no RAM". Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 19 0:21:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76AA437B419 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 00:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:20:45 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:20:28 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: L2 cache disabled? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_732EFD5D.1170143C" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=_732EFD5D.1170143C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >> Is there a way to check if the L2 cache >> is disabled, if it indeed can be disabled? > You can run lmbench & see what it says about your memory=20 > bandwidth. Does it fall of at ~2MB? This is the result of the memory latency test, hosts omitted: OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem Guesses ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- ------- FreeBSD 4.5-S 170 - - - Bad mhz? Would it be safe to assume that something is wrong? I've included the full result from lmbench. I ran the tests twice. - IT --=_732EFD5D.1170143C Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="blackbird.lmbench" cd Results && make summary percent | more L M B E N C H 1 . 0 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ Processor, Processes - times in microseconds -------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz Null Null Simple /bin/sh Mmap 2-proc 8-proc Syscall Process Process Process lat ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ---- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------ ------ i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 100 7 3K 14K 23K 135 30 36 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 133 9 3K 12K 20K 105 24 28 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 10 3K 13K 22K 175 28 34 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 9 3K 14K 22K 176 29 36 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 7 3K 13K 21K 173 29 35 6000-990 AIX 3.x 71 16 1K 8K 16K 82 13 18 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 134 12 3K 8K 50K 82 16 26 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 164 5 1K 7K 15K 157 7 11 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 170 5 1K 6K 12K 149 9 11 AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 45 75 9K 13K 67K 9370 89 122 735 HP-UX A.09.05 98 12 1K 3K 17K 91 27 30 cello HP-UX A.09.04 93 92 7K 15K 37K 97 20 23 hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 99 11 3K 9K 18K 81 21 21 k200 HP-UX B.10.01 99 19 4K 67K 118K 136 13 15 snake HP-UX A.09.03 99 14 4K 10K 18K 116 25 29 wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 14 4K 10K 19K 98 29 31 wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 12 3K 10K 20K 94 29 34 wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 98 13 3K 10K 20K 97 29 30 IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 200 24 4K 14K 24K 128 63 69 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 250 16 6K 19K 46K 205 141 96 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 200 20 4K 8K 20K 286 150 102 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 200 18 5K 19K 37K 301 59 79 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 90 25 4K 14K 30K 219 84 87 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 198 11 3K 8K 19K 260 40 38 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 250 10 3K 8K 22K 183 38 42 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 75 20 5K 24K 39K 157 72 74 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 120 23 3K 12K 24K 131 55 59 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 167 4 1K 5K 17K 44 6 7 i586 Linux 1.2.8 120 2 2K 9K 26K 74 36 47 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 100 5 2K 15K 30K 83 13 20 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 120 2 1K 5K 16K 69 10 13 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 100 5 2K 15K 30K 82 13 21 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 100 3 2K 12K 44K 83 16 22 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 100 3 3K 24K 73K 84 66 83 linux Linux 1.3.28 100 6 3K 10K 112K 178 11 18 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 100 6 -0K -0K 12K -1 -1 -1 pc64 Linux 1.3.38 275 2 1K 3K 12K 15 11 13 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 275 3 1K 2K 16K 15 10 13 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 303 9 2K 6K 43K 199 14 22 alpha OSF1 V2.1 182 13 5K 16K 64K 172 25 42 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 189 15 5K 15K 89K 261 40 46 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 146 17 13K 33K 39K 244 59 115 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 147 11 5K 13K 42K 228 53 59 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 157 17 3K 11K 44K 201 53 56 gauss OSF1 V3.0 275 12 5K 14K 27K 204 39 46 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 196 9 3K 10K 281K 180 43 45 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 50 9 14K 69K 175K 156 107 104 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 60 12 21K 93K 136K 245 137 164 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 40 26 14K 75K 113K 146 224 245 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 50 9 11K 57K 87K 130 54 85 ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 61 7 8K 46K 237K 104 37 52 sun4m SunOS 5.4 66 13 18K 83K 37K 207 75 110 ultraspar SunOS 5.5 167 5 4K 20K 10K 212 14 20 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 165 5 1K 6K 0K 182 21 22 *Local* Communication latencies in microseconds ----------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ UDP TCP --------- ------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 127 265 459 312 548 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 104 213 387 264 450 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 111 240 420 295 535 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 115 -1 426 290 532 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 115 249 408 297 510 6000-990 AIX 3.x 91 254 531 332 649 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 65 206 536 299 698 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 17 84 167 166 224 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 19 70 166 151 221 AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 474 1373 2175 1381 1851 735 HP-UX A.09.05 181 244 742 222 707 cello HP-UX A.09.04 118 289 673 286 854 hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 148 185 657 186 712 k200 HP-UX B.10.01 113 413 655 393 668 snake HP-UX A.09.03 193 244 832 262 812 wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 172 246 768 245 800 wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 178 252 786 248 820 wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 169 248 759 257 805 IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 251 678 893 546 900 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 333 796 903 766 913 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 366 785 960 815 1006 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 187 814 964 886 957 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 264 660 783 643 974 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 131 313 671 278 641 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 118 261 562 279 580 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 222 474 1008 467 1018 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 230 486 740 482 806 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 31 112 217 263 427 i586 Linux 1.2.8 84 -1 451 477 718 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 43 276 538 1196 1506 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 33 187 366 467 713 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 43 272 553 1291 1668 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 42 281 552 1149 1434 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 140 -1 806 -1 1249 linux Linux 1.3.28 56 351 831 1465 2078 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 56 368 770 1592 2147 pc64 Linux 1.3.38 34 180 317 429 602 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 34 199 330 419 617 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 71 259 358 267 371 alpha OSF1 V2.1 185 404 718 428 851 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 198 709 1109 629 994 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 278 -1 1308 826 1451 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 179 489 834 485 788 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 191 676 765 581 822 gauss OSF1 V3.0 162 569 836 526 872 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 141 379 717 412 673 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 278 739 1101 855 1386 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 519 1084 1430 1006 1584 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 671 1180 1562 1211 1847 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 194 590 935 560 1196 ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 150 414 622 335 784 sun4m SunOS 5.4 372 914 1290 826 1631 ultraspar SunOS 5.5 62 197 267 162 346 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 86 -1 -1 -1 -1 *Local* Communication bandwidths in megabytes/second ---------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 19 0 38 49 42 39 65 83 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 21 0 30 54 42 39 73 83 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 20 0 28 47 40 36 62 83 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 19 0 29 46 41 38 65 83 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 18 0 29 50 41 38 65 83 6000-990 AIX 3.x 84 10 187 106 171 242 205 364 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 30 17 40 51 21 21 63 26 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 193 24 133 142 86 86 181 147 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 117 23 139 150 97 96 191 159 AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 8 5 16 13 17 17 37 19 735 HP-UX A.09.05 37 24 47 36 26 32 55 52 cello HP-UX A.09.04 26 17 39 28 19 19 40 37 hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 53 21 43 37 33 31 56 61 k200 HP-UX B.10.01 37 28 64 41 48 55 97 89 snake HP-UX A.09.03 38 35 45 32 25 31 49 52 wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 39 19 43 35 26 32 54 52 wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 42 18 43 35 26 31 54 51 wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 44 20 44 33 26 32 53 49 IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 17 31 36 56 36 35 65 67 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 14 16 39 43 34 33 67 73 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 12 12 36 43 34 32 65 68 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 27 19 34 56 34 32 65 67 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 28 19 62 70 70 68 85 83 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 34 22 32 44 32 31 69 66 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 32 7 37 48 33 32 68 72 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 37 22 75 56 32 41 65 61 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 40 26 60 76 41 53 87 72 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 73 15 46 34 57 42 205 56 i586 Linux 1.2.8 22 5 21 13 41 38 74 75 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 19 3 14 11 21 20 60 31 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 34 7 23 9 42 38 74 75 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 18 3 14 10 21 20 58 30 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 24 3 17 14 31 30 61 50 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 12 3 13 8 21 20 60 31 linux Linux 1.3.28 16 6 9 10 17 16 33 41 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 -1 6 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 pc64 Linux 1.3.38 73 9 24 18 39 39 73 71 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 73 9 25 23 40 40 74 72 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 46 11 67 78 0 0 120 123 alpha OSF1 V2.1 32 12 39 23 39 41 76 78 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 23 7 37 12 38 38 64 79 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 17 4 20 14 15 15 46 20 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 35 9 40 50 45 46 79 91 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 32 9 36 19 36 36 55 72 gauss OSF1 V3.0 24 6 45 16 40 38 69 82 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 54 11 49 25 46 46 88 90 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 9 11 20 28 15 17 38 31 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 8 9 23 17 21 22 47 38 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 7 8 23 25 14 16 36 29 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 11 11 23 30 26 31 80 62 ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 24 19 31 31 23 24 59 40 sun4m SunOS 5.4 7 9 21 39 23 25 64 51 ultraspar SunOS 5.5 61 51 85 101 167 85 129 152 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 63 -1 53 198 55 65 214 86 Memory latencies in nanoseconds (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) -------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- ------- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 99 10 115 179 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 133 7 111 181 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 10 106 181 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 10 118 180 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 10 101 180 6000-990 AIX 3.x 70 13 13 141 No L1 cache? powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 133 6 164 394 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 164 - - - Bad mhz? blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 170 - - - Bad mhz? AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 44 22 319 753 735 HP-UX A.09.05 98 10 10 347 No L1 cache? cello HP-UX A.09.04 92 10 11 424 No L1 cache? hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 99 9 9 376 No L1 cache? k200 HP-UX B.10.01 99 10 10 430 No L1 cache? snake HP-UX A.09.03 98 10 10 393 No L1 cache? wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 10 10 348 No L1 cache? wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 10 10 347 No L1 cache? wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 98 10 10 348 No L1 cache? IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 200 10 70 1152 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 250 8 64 1189 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 200 10 75 1149 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 200 10 75 1150 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 90 11 100 709 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 197 10 76 1018 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 250 8 64 1170 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 75 13 120 1244 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 120 8 58 1134 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 166 12 90 194 i586 Linux 1.2.8 120 8 103 151 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 99 10 190 320 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 120 8 107 150 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 99 10 148 320 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 99 10 198 321 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 99 10 222 321 linux Linux 1.3.28 99 12 234 336 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 99 - - - Bad mhz? pc64 Linux 1.3.38 275 3 83 354 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 275 3 43 361 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 302 3 42 396 alpha OSF1 V2.1 182 10 56 321 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 188 10 53 477 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 146 13 104 957 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 147 12 67 291 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 157 12 57 468 gauss OSF1 V3.0 274 7 47 458 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 196 9 51 288 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 50 20 140 1236 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 60 16 116 995 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 40 24 173 1246 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 49 20 284 291 No L2 cache? ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 60 16 115 816 sun4m SunOS 5.4 66 13 168 180 No L2 cache? ultraspar SunOS 5.5 166 6 42 270 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 165 14 34 196 L M B E N C H 1 . 0 S U M M A R Y ------------------------------------ Comparison to best of the breed ------------------------------- (Best numbers are starred, i.e., *123) Processor, Processes - factor slower than the best -------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz Null Null Simple /bin/sh Mmap 2-proc 8-proc Syscall Process Process Process lat ctxsw ctxsw --------- ------------- ---- ------- ------- ------- ------- ---- ------ ------ i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 100 3.5 5.8 5.6 2.2 9.0 5.0 5.1 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 133 4.5 5.2 4.9 1.9 7.0 4.0 4.0 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 5.0 5.5 5.4 2.1 12 4.7 4.9 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 4.5 5.5 5.6 2.1 12 4.8 5.1 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 100 3.5 5.3 5.4 2.0 12 4.8 5.0 6000-990 AIX 3.x 71 8.0 2.3 3.2 1.5 5.5 2.2 2.6 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 134 6.0 5.5 3.5 4.8 5.5 2.7 3.7 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 164 2.5 2.4 3.0 1.5 10 1.2 1.6 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 170 2.5 2.5 2.4 1.1 9.9 1.5 1.6 AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 45 38 17 5.3 6.4 625 15 17 735 HP-UX A.09.05 98 6.0 2.5 1.4 1.7 6.1 4.5 4.3 cello HP-UX A.09.04 93 46 13 6.3 3.5 6.5 3.3 3.3 hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 99 5.5 6.0 3.8 1.7 6.1 3.5 3.0 k200 HP-UX B.10.01 99 9.5 8.1 28 11 9.1 2.2 2.1 snake HP-UX A.09.03 99 7.0 6.8 4.2 1.8 7.7 4.2 4.1 wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 7.0 6.8 4.1 1.9 6.4 4.8 4.4 wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 6.0 6.7 4.0 1.9 6.3 4.8 4.9 wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 98 6.5 6.6 4.0 1.9 6.5 4.8 4.3 IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 200 12 7.7 5.9 2.3 8.5 10 9.9 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 250 8.0 12 7.7 4.5 14 24 14 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 200 10 8.3 3.3 1.9 19 25 15 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 200 9.0 8.7 7.8 3.6 20 9.8 11 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 90 12 8.0 5.7 2.9 13 14 12 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 198 5.5 6.0 3.3 1.8 17 6.7 5.4 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 250 5.0 5.7 3.4 2.1 12 6.3 6.0 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 75 10 8.9 10 3.8 10 12 11 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 120 12 6.4 5.0 2.3 8.7 9.2 8.4 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 167 2.0 *0.5K 2.2 1.6 2.9 *6 *7 i586 Linux 1.2.8 120 *2 4.6 3.6 2.5 4.9 6.0 6.7 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 100 2.5 3.5 6.2 2.8 5.5 2.2 2.9 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 120 *2 1.7 2.0 1.6 4.6 1.7 1.9 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 100 2.5 3.6 6.1 2.9 5.5 2.2 3.0 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 100 1.5 3.1 5.0 4.2 5.5 2.7 3.1 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 100 1.5 5.9 9.8 7.0 5.6 11 12 linux Linux 1.3.28 100 3.0 6.4 4.1 11 12 1.8 2.6 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 100 3.0 ??? ??? 1.2 ??? ??? ??? pc64 Linux 1.3.38 275 *2 1.4 1.2 1.2 *15 1.8 1.9 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 275 1.5 1.9 *2.4K 1.6 *15 1.7 1.9 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 303 4.5 3.8 2.4 4.1 13 2.3 3.1 alpha OSF1 V2.1 182 6.5 9.1 6.6 6.1 11 4.2 6.0 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 189 7.5 9.8 6.1 8.6 17 6.7 6.6 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 146 8.5 26 14 3.8 16 9.8 16 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 147 5.5 8.8 5.2 4.0 15 8.8 8.4 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 157 8.5 6.4 4.6 4.2 13 8.8 8.0 gauss OSF1 V3.0 275 6.0 10 6.0 2.6 11 6.5 6.6 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 196 4.5 5.9 4.2 27 11 7.2 6.4 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 50 4.5 27 28 17 10 18 15 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 60 6.0 40 39 13 16 23 23 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 40 13 26 31 11 15 37 35 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 50 4.5 21 24 8.3 8.7 9.0 12 ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 61 3.5 15 19 23 6.9 6.2 7.4 sun4m SunOS 5.4 66 6.5 35 34 3.6 14 12 16 ultraspar SunOS 5.5 167 2.5 7.2 8.3 *10.2K 14 2.3 2.9 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 165 2.5 2.0 2.3 ??? 12 3.5 3.1 *Local* Communication latencies - factor slower than the best ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe UDP RPC/ TCP RPC/ UDP TCP --------- ------------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 7.5 3.8 2.8 2.1 2.5 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 6.1 3.0 2.3 1.7 2.0 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 6.5 3.4 2.5 2.0 2.4 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 6.8 ??? 2.6 1.9 2.4 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 6.8 3.6 2.5 2.0 2.3 6000-990 AIX 3.x 5.4 3.6 3.2 2.2 2.9 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 3.8 2.9 3.2 2.0 3.2 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S *17 1.2 1.0 1.1 1.0 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 1.1 *70 *166 *151 *221 AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 28 20 13 9.1 8.4 735 HP-UX A.09.05 11 3.5 4.5 1.5 3.2 cello HP-UX A.09.04 6.9 4.1 4.1 1.9 3.9 hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 8.7 2.6 4.0 1.2 3.2 k200 HP-UX B.10.01 6.6 5.9 3.9 2.6 3.0 snake HP-UX A.09.03 11 3.5 5.0 1.7 3.7 wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 10 3.5 4.6 1.6 3.6 wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 10 3.6 4.7 1.6 3.7 wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 9.9 3.5 4.6 1.7 3.6 IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 15 9.7 5.4 3.6 4.1 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 20 11 5.4 5.1 4.1 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 22 11 5.8 5.4 4.6 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 11 12 5.8 5.9 4.3 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 16 9.4 4.7 4.3 4.4 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 7.7 4.5 4.0 1.8 2.9 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 6.9 3.7 3.4 1.8 2.6 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 13 6.8 6.1 3.1 4.6 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 14 6.9 4.5 3.2 3.6 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 1.8 1.6 1.3 1.7 1.9 i586 Linux 1.2.8 4.9 ??? 2.7 3.2 3.2 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 2.5 3.9 3.2 7.9 6.8 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 1.9 2.7 2.2 3.1 3.2 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 2.5 3.9 3.3 8.5 7.5 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 2.5 4.0 3.3 7.6 6.5 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 8.2 ??? 4.9 ??? 5.7 linux Linux 1.3.28 3.3 5.0 5.0 9.7 9.4 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 3.3 5.3 4.6 11 9.7 pc64 Linux 1.3.38 2.0 2.6 1.9 2.8 2.7 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 2.0 2.8 2.0 2.8 2.8 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 4.2 3.7 2.2 1.8 1.7 alpha OSF1 V2.1 11 5.8 4.3 2.8 3.9 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 12 10 6.7 4.2 4.5 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 16 ??? 7.9 5.5 6.6 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 11 7.0 5.0 3.2 3.6 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 11 9.7 4.6 3.8 3.7 gauss OSF1 V3.0 9.5 8.1 5.0 3.5 3.9 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 8.3 5.4 4.3 2.7 3.0 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 16 11 6.6 5.7 6.3 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 31 15 8.6 6.7 7.2 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 39 17 9.4 8.0 8.4 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 11 8.4 5.6 3.7 5.4 ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 8.8 5.9 3.7 2.2 3.5 sun4m SunOS 5.4 22 13 7.8 5.5 7.4 ultraspar SunOS 5.5 3.6 2.8 1.6 1.1 1.6 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 5.1 ??? ??? ??? ??? *Local* Communication bandwidths - percentage of the best --------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Pipe TCP File Mmap Bcopy Bcopy Mem Mem reread reread (libc) (hand) read write --------- ------------- ---- ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- ----- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 9% 0% 20% 24% 24% 16% 30% 22% i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 10% 0% 16% 27% 24% 16% 34% 22% i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 10% 0% 14% 23% 23% 14% 28% 22% i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 9% 0% 15% 23% 24% 15% 30% 22% i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 9% 0% 15% 25% 24% 15% 30% 22% 6000-990 AIX 3.x 43% 20% *187 53% *170 *242 95% *363 powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 15% 32% 21% 25% 12% 8% 29% 7% blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S *192 45% 71% 71% 50% 35% 84% 40% blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 60% 45% 74% 75% 57% 39% 89% 43% AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 4% 8% 8% 6% 10% 6% 17% 5% 735 HP-UX A.09.05 19% 46% 25% 17% 15% 13% 25% 14% cello HP-UX A.09.04 13% 33% 21% 14% 11% 7% 18% 10% hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 27% 40% 22% 18% 19% 12% 26% 16% k200 HP-UX B.10.01 19% 54% 34% 20% 27% 22% 45% 24% snake HP-UX A.09.03 19% 68% 23% 16% 14% 12% 23% 14% wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 20% 37% 22% 17% 15% 13% 25% 14% wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 21% 35% 23% 17% 15% 12% 24% 14% wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 23% 38% 23% 16% 15% 13% 24% 14% IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 8% 60% 19% 28% 20% 14% 30% 18% IP19+ IRIX 5.3 7% 32% 20% 21% 19% 13% 31% 19% IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 6% 23% 19% 21% 19% 13% 30% 18% IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 13% 36% 18% 28% 19% 13% 30% 18% IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 14% 36% 34% 36% 40% 28% 43% 24% IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 17% 43% 17% 22% 18% 12% 32% 18% IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 16% 13% 19% 24% 19% 13% 31% 19% IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 19% 41% 39% 28% 18% 16% 30% 16% cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 20% 50% 31% 38% 24% 21% 40% 19% aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 38% 28% 24% 16% 33% 17% 96% 15% i586 Linux 1.2.8 11% 9% 11% 6% 24% 15% 34% 20% i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 9% 5% 7% 5% 12% 8% 28% 8% i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 17% 13% 12% 4% 24% 15% 34% 20% i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 9% 5% 7% 5% 12% 8% 27% 8% i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 12% 6% 9% 7% 18% 12% 28% 13% i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 6% 5% 6% 4% 12% 8% 28% 8% linux Linux 1.3.28 8% 10% 4% 4% 9% 6% 15% 11% linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 0% 10% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% pc64 Linux 1.3.38 37% 17% 13% 8% 22% 16% 34% 19% pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 38% 17% 13% 11% 23% 16% 34% 19% 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 23% 21% 35% 39% 0% 0% 56% 33% alpha OSF1 V2.1 16% 23% 21% 11% 22% 16% 35% 21% alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 11% 12% 19% 6% 22% 15% 29% 21% alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 8% 8% 10% 7% 9% 6% 21% 5% alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 17% 16% 21% 25% 26% 18% 36% 25% alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 16% 17% 19% 9% 21% 15% 25% 19% gauss OSF1 V3.0 12% 11% 23% 7% 23% 15% 32% 22% nobozo OSF1 V3.2 28% 20% 25% 12% 26% 18% 41% 24% sc1000 SunOS 5.5 4% 21% 10% 14% 8% 6% 17% 8% sc2000 SunOS 5.4 4% 17% 12% 8% 12% 9% 22% 10% sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 3% 15% 12% 12% 8% 6% 16% 7% ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 5% 21% 12% 15% 15% 12% 37% 17% ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 12% 38% 16% 15% 13% 9% 27% 11% sun4m SunOS 5.4 3% 18% 11% 19% 13% 10% 29% 14% ultraspar SunOS 5.5 31% *51 45% 51% 97% 35% 60% 41% alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 32% -1% 28% *197 32% 26% *213 23% Memory latencies in nanoseconds - factor slower than the best (WARNING - may not be correct, check graphs) ------------------------------------------------------------- Host OS Mhz L1 $ L2 $ Main mem Guesses --------- ------------- --- ---- ---- -------- ------- i586 FreeBSD 2.1.0 99 3.3 13 1.3 i586.1 FreeBSD 2.1-S 133 2.3 12 1.3 i586.2 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 3.3 12 1.3 i586.3 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 3.3 13 1.3 i586.4 FreeBSD 2.1-S 99 3.3 11 1.3 6000-990 AIX 3.x 70 ??? 1.4 *141 No L1 cache? powerpc.2 AIX 4.x 133 2.0 18 2.8 blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 164 - - - Bad mhz? blackbird FreeBSD 4.5-S 170 - - - Bad mhz? AViiON dgux 5.4R3.10 44 7.3 35 5.3 735 HP-UX A.09.05 98 ??? 1.1 2.5 No L1 cache? cello HP-UX A.09.04 92 ??? 1.2 3.0 No L1 cache? hamsky2 HP-UX A.09.05 99 ??? *9 2.7 No L1 cache? k200 HP-UX B.10.01 99 ??? 1.1 3.0 No L1 cache? snake HP-UX A.09.03 98 ??? 1.1 2.8 No L1 cache? wk4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 ??? 1.1 2.5 No L1 cache? wk4.4 HP-UX A.09.01 98 ??? 1.1 2.5 No L1 cache? wk4.5 HP-UX A.09.01 98 ??? 1.1 2.5 No L1 cache? IP19 IRIX64 6.2-AL 200 3.3 7.8 8.2 IP19+ IRIX 5.3 250 2.7 7.1 8.4 IP19-5.3 IRIX5.3 5.3 200 3.3 8.3 8.1 IP19-news IRIX64 6.1-lm 200 3.3 8.3 8.2 IP21 IRIX64 6.2-AL 90 3.7 11 5.0 IP22 IRIX5.3 5.3 197 3.3 8.4 7.2 IP22+ IRIX 5.3-ALPH 250 2.7 7.1 8.3 IP26 IRIX64-601 6. 75 4.3 13 8.8 cedar3 IRIX64 6.2-sp 120 2.7 6.4 8.0 aurora.4 Linux 1.3.37 166 4.0 10 1.4 i586 Linux 1.2.8 120 2.7 11 1.1 i586.1 Linux 1.3.36 99 3.3 21 2.3 i586.120 Linux 1.3.28 120 2.7 12 1.1 i586.2 Linux 1.3.36 99 3.3 16 2.3 i586.3 Linux 1.3.37 99 3.3 22 2.3 i586.4 Linux 1.2.13 99 3.3 25 2.3 linux Linux 1.3.28 99 4.0 26 2.4 linux.1 Linux 1.3.28 99 - - - Bad mhz? pc64 Linux 1.3.38 275 *3 9.2 2.5 pc64.1 Linux 1.3.38 275 *3 4.8 2.6 8400-32.p OSF1 V3.2 302 *3 4.7 2.8 alpha OSF1 V2.1 182 3.3 6.2 2.3 alpha.1 OSF1 V3.2 188 3.3 5.9 3.4 alpha.2 OSF1 V2.0 146 4.3 12 6.8 alpha.3 OSF1 V3.0 147 4.0 7.4 2.1 alpha.4 OSF1 V3.0 157 4.0 6.3 3.3 gauss OSF1 V3.0 274 2.3 5.2 3.2 nobozo OSF1 V3.2 196 3.0 5.7 2.0 sc1000 SunOS 5.5 50 6.7 16 8.8 sc2000 SunOS 5.4 60 5.3 13 7.1 sc2000.1 SunOS 5.4 40 8.0 19 8.8 ss20.50 SunOS 5.4 49 6.7 ??? 2.1 No L2 cache? ss20.61 SunOS 5.4 60 5.3 13 5.8 sun4m SunOS 5.4 66 4.3 ??? 1.3 No L2 cache? ultraspar SunOS 5.5 166 2.0 4.7 1.9 alder.2 UNIX_SV 4.2MP 165 4.7 3.8 1.4 --=_732EFD5D.1170143C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 19 1:19:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from teebar.directski.com (mauer.directski.com [193.95.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC01E37B41C; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 01:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directski.com (dermot.traveldev.com [192.168.0.50]) by teebar.directski.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3J8IYGk058059; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:18:34 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Message-ID: <3CBFD2DC.A5E74626@directski.com> Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:18:36 +0100 From: Dermot McNally X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,de,fr,ga MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moused broken on alpha References: <3CBF0D84.F686F651@directski.com> <15551.13608.689304.119550@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > The MOUSE_PROTO_JOGDIAL definition was forgotten about in the original > MFC of some extra mouse support. ru caught the problem and added it to > sys/alpha/include/Attic/mouse.h ( 1.16.2.2) 2 days ago. Hmm. I had tried it with sources that are now 24 hours old, but must have missed the fix somehow. Time for me to blow the moused directory and update again, methinks. Thanks, Dermot -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dermot McNally, Chief Technical Officer, Directski.com dermot@directski.com http://www.directski.com - ski the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 3:22:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mbox.ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.98.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA1737B41C for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 03:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawmay@localhost) by mbox.ki.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13708 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:22:12 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:22:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lawrence Mayer dsg To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: cheap mb for 21264? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Does anyone know if there are any inexpensive (e.g. $100 price range) (new or used) motherboards available that support the alpha 21264 CPU in the 1GHz range? I am a bit confused on the issue. I have read that the 21264 is pin compatible with the Athlon Socket A. Does that mean that every Athlon motherboard (such as an Athlon XP motherboard) automatically supports the 21264? I would greatly appreciate information and advice on this issue. I am trying to build an inexpensive alpha box for FreeBSD. Regards, Lawrence Mayer Ume=E5, Sweden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 4:24:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1E337B41D for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g3KBNsm40165; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:23:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g3KBMP2J030292; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:22:25 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3KBMOXM009798; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:22:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3KBMO0l009797; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:22:24 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:22:23 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Lawrence Mayer dsg Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cheap mb for 21264? Message-ID: <20020420112222.GP1135@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 12:22:12PM +0200, Lawrence Mayer dsg wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if there are any inexpensive (e.g. $100 price range) (new > or used) motherboards available that support the alpha 21264 CPU in the > 1GHz range? I doubt there is a board anywhere near that price. $100 is even cheap on the x86 market. You even have problems to get a high class 21164 board in that range. > I am a bit confused on the issue. I have read that the 21264 is pin > compatible with the Athlon Socket A. Does that mean that every Athlon > motherboard (such as an Athlon XP motherboard) automatically supports the > 21264? An x86 BIOS can never be used to startup anything else. I don't know if they are pin compatible - at least they share enough in common that it is possible for API to build a board based on AMDs Athlon chipset. In the low cost Alpha segment there is the UP1000 from API which is supported by FreeBSD - I can't say if they support 1GHz CPUs. It's more than just a board and far out of your price range. AFAIK you still can get some OEM boards from Compaq. I don't think they are much cheaper. > I would greatly appreciate information and advice on this issue. I am > trying to build an inexpensive alpha box for FreeBSD. If you only want to have an alpha for non production use you might go better with an used 21164 based system. Carefully checkout for FreeBSD support before buying. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 4:32:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.chello.se (smtp2.chello.se [193.150.195.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EABA37B417 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leth ([193.150.201.51]) by smtp2.chello.se (InterMail vK.4.04.00.00 201-232-137 license d2583c0617b67bae473a44216fd3d32d) with SMTP id <20020420113252.CORM2385.smtp2@leth>; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:32:52 +0200 Message-ID: <002b01c1e85f$367f8af0$33c996c1@bendva> From: "Leth" To: "Bernd Walter" Cc: "freebsd-alpha" References: <20020420112222.GP1135@cicely8.cicely.de> Subject: Re: cheap mb for 21264? Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:33:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In the low cost Alpha segment there is the UP1000 from API which is > supported by FreeBSD - I can't say if they support 1GHz CPUs. > It's more than just a board and far out of your price range. AFAIK the UDP 1100 doens't do better then 700Mhz, but the new upcoming = UDP1500 will do 1Ghz.=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 4:38:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mbox.ki.se (mbox.ki.se [130.237.98.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E66B37B41F for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lawmay@localhost) by mbox.ki.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27500; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:38:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:38:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lawrence Mayer dsg To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cheap mb for 21264? In-Reply-To: <20020420112222.GP1135@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: > > I am a bit confused on the issue. I have read that the 21264 is pin > > compatible with the Athlon Socket A. Does that mean that every Athlon > > motherboard (such as an Athlon XP motherboard) automatically supports t= he > > 21264? > > An x86 BIOS can never be used to startup anything else. > I don't know if they are pin compatible - at least they share enough in > common that it is possible for API to build a board based on AMDs > Athlon chipset. Thanks for your views, Bernd. OK, let me rephrase my question: Do you know whether an alpha 21264 BIOS is available for any of the Athlon x86 motherboards? (I have hunted for one on the ASUS homesite without any luck, but there are many other Athlon motherboard manufacturers). If so, I might get what I want, since most Athlon x86 motherboards are quite inexpensive new due to the fierce competition in the x86 market. If you can't answer that question, could you suggest where I might look for an answer? Thanks again. Regards, Lawrence Mayer Ume=E5, Sweden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 4:50:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883AE37B41B for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 04:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with UUCP id g3KBodN40540; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:50:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g3KBnd2J030454; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:49:39 +0200 (CEST)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g3KBncXM009851; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:49:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g3KBnb1t009850; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:49:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:49:37 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Lawrence Mayer dsg Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cheap mb for 21264? Message-ID: <20020420114936.GQ1135@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20020420112222.GP1135@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.26i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 01:38:52PM +0200, Lawrence Mayer dsg wrote: > On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > > I am a bit confused on the issue. I have read that the 21264 is pin > > > compatible with the Athlon Socket A. Does that mean that every Athlon > > > motherboard (such as an Athlon XP motherboard) automatically supports the > > > 21264? > > > > An x86 BIOS can never be used to startup anything else. > > I don't know if they are pin compatible - at least they share enough in > > common that it is possible for API to build a board based on AMDs > > Athlon chipset. > > Thanks for your views, Bernd. OK, let me rephrase my question: > > Do you know whether an alpha 21264 BIOS is available for any of the Athlon > x86 motherboards? Not that I know of. Hey I already wrote that I don't know if it's even doable. > (I have hunted for one on the ASUS homesite without any luck, but there > are many other Athlon motherboard manufacturers). If so, I might get what > I want, since most Athlon x86 motherboards are quite inexpensive new due > to the fierce competition in the x86 market. You might have more luck that Asus will support sparc based systems one day. Their doughter company Axus already build sparc systems. > If you can't answer that question, could you suggest where I might look > for an answer? No - not realy. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 20 13: 0:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 127B237B41F for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3KK08r50503; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:00:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B113D37B404 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3KJuhZ50013; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200204201956.g3KJuhZ50013@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 12:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Goodridge To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: alpha/37295: Make Install of KDE2 fails on alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 37295 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Make Install of KDE2 fails on alpha >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Apr 20 13:00:07 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ted Goodridge >Release: 4.5 release >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD romulus.tu.ok.cox.net 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 29 07:52:50 GMT 2002 murray@axpbuilder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC alpha >Description: Make install of kde2 fails with the following output: gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/misc/kdeutils2/work/kdeutils-2.2.2/klaptopdaemon' /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile --tag=CXX c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH_H_ -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -DNDEBUG -O2 -O0 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c portable.cpp c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -D_GETOPT_H -D_PTH_H_ -D_PTH_PTHREAD_H_ -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/qt2 -DNDEBUG -O2 -O0 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -Wp,-MD,.deps/portable.pp -c portable.cpp -fPIC -DPIC portable.cpp:406: machine/apm_bios.h: No such file or directory gmake[3]: *** [portable.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/kdeutils2/work/kdeutils-2.2.2/klaptopdaemon' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/kdeutils2/work/kdeutils-2.2.2/klaptopdaemon' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/misc/kdeutils2/work/kdeutils-2.2.2' gmake: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/misc/kdeutils2. *** Error code 1 >How-To-Repeat: cd /usr/ports/kde2 make make install >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message