From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 1 14:16:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B365037B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA14D43E88; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 14:16:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03861; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB1MG3V87599; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15850.35363.546311.924458@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird panic on alpha In-Reply-To: <20021130223224.GC45105@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20021130223224.GC45105@rot13.obsecurity.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kennaway writes: > I'm getting this on several of my alphas. Any ideas? The traceback > and panic message is weird. gdb sucks bigtime on alpha. The weirdness is just gdb throwing its hands up in the air because it doesn't understand the trapframe and can't grok anymore of the stack than that. gdb is useful for getting stack traces from kernel panics on alpha only when a specific panic is hit, not a trap. So, you need to have ddb configured: options DDB options DDB_TRACE and maybe: options DDB_UNATTENDED Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 1 15: 0:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE0037B401; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-106-47.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.106.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6730E43EA9; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:00:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D580766BE3; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 25C5410D6; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:00:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 15:00:25 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Kris Kennaway , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: weird panic on alpha Message-ID: <20021201230024.GA76830@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <20021130223224.GC45105@rot13.obsecurity.org> <15850.35363.546311.924458@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15850.35363.546311.924458@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 05:16:03PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: >=20 > Kris Kennaway writes: > > I'm getting this on several of my alphas. Any ideas? The traceback > > and panic message is weird. >=20 > gdb sucks bigtime on alpha. The weirdness is just gdb throwing its > hands up in the air because it doesn't understand the trapframe and > can't grok anymore of the stack than that. gdb is useful for getting > stack traces from kernel panics on alpha only when a specific panic is > hit, not a trap. >=20 >=20 > So, you need to have ddb configured: > options DDB > options DDB_TRACE OK, thanks. I'll add these in and post a real trace the next time it occur= s. Kris --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE96pSIWry0BWjoQKURAoFDAKDV1W2kgPu9iUaOa5oi+odzkXMrKQCgnk/X xsyMkOID8wBIB3NzFxXnmJg= =O1WQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 1 16:10:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C877337B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from reva.sixgirls.org (reva.sixgirls.org [66.250.131.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3969343EB2 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 16:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setient@reva.sixgirls.org) Received: from localhost (setient@localhost) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB209mk24645; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:09:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:09:48 -0500 (EST) From: Setient To: Falko Meyer Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 433 au In-Reply-To: <3DE756BB.58A8CFAE@yahoo.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org it has a terminator on the cable that isn't the problem it has macos partitions on it and it don't like reading the size therefore reporting it has no disk which is completely bogus i need a way to lowlevel format it from srm or something. On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Falko Meyer wrote: > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:59:55 +0100 > From: Falko Meyer > To: Setient , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: 433 au > > Setient wrote: > > > > i have a scsi disk a 36 gig 10k rpm seagate cheetah it was formerly in a > > mac running mac linux. I try to put it in the freebsd machine then boot > > off cdrom but alas it comes up with unable to determin hd size then i > > can't go further cause it says there is no harddisk present. is there a > > way i can get rid of the information that is on the hd without a mac? > Boot a Linux Bootdisk (i usually take Slackware Boot- and Rootdisks) and > run dd or do a lowlevel format which should be provided by the > hostadapter's BIOS (on a PC). Maybe there is also a way using > BSD-Bootdisks. > > MfG > Falko Meyer > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 1 23:29:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EC637B401 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from trillian.santala.org (ip212-226-173-33.adsl.kpnqwest.fi [212.226.173.33]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CF0643EC5 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:29:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@iki.fi) Received: (qmail 65195 invoked by uid 11053); 2 Dec 2002 07:29:38 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 07:29:38 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:29:38 +0200 (EET) From: Jarkko Santala X-X-Sender: jake@trillian.santala.org To: Setient Cc: Falko Meyer , Subject: Re: 433 au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021202092405.I33855-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Setient wrote: > it has a terminator on the cable that isn't the problem it has macos > partitions on it and it don't like reading the size therefore reporting > it has no disk which is completely bogus i need a way to lowlevel format > it from srm or something. No, do as he told below. Boot from a floppy and issue a command like this: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo foo begin the harddrive device. You can also specify bs and count if you like or just let that run for a few seconds. Then reboot with your preferred installation media. What that does is clears the partitions and whatever you have on the beginning of the disk, forcing size and all other things to be detected properly. I think I used a NetBSD floppy to do this a while ago, because I couldn't do it from a FreeBSD one or something. A bootable installation CD probably works OK too if you have around. -jake > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Falko Meyer wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:59:55 +0100 > > From: Falko Meyer > > To: Setient , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: 433 au > > > > Setient wrote: > > > > > > i have a scsi disk a 36 gig 10k rpm seagate cheetah it was formerly in a > > > mac running mac linux. I try to put it in the freebsd machine then boot > > > off cdrom but alas it comes up with unable to determin hd size then i > > > can't go further cause it says there is no harddisk present. is there a > > > way i can get rid of the information that is on the hd without a mac? > > Boot a Linux Bootdisk (i usually take Slackware Boot- and Rootdisks) and > > run dd or do a lowlevel format which should be provided by the > > hostadapter's BIOS (on a PC). Maybe there is also a way using > > BSD-Bootdisks. > > > > MfG > > Falko Meyer > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > -- Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/~jake/ System Administrator 2001:670:83:f08::/64 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 4:54: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCE837B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.136.107]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF69A43ECD for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 04:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oschonef@TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE) Received: from mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE [129.70.128.67]) by momotombo.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6/TechFak/pk+ro20010720) with ESMTP id gB2Cs0b28452 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:54:00 +0100 (MET) From: Oliver Schonefeld Received: (from oschonef@localhost) by mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.1) id gB2Cs0813239 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:54:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:54:00 +0100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: "no timer interrupts" message on PC164LX in SRM console Message-ID: <20021202125400.GA13134@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Zen: Oooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello freebsd-alpha, I recently got a DEC 164LX mainboard with a 533 CPU and 265 MB Ram. The board came with the AlphaBIOS so I installed the latest SRM firmware. When booting FreeBSD (4.7-STABLE, cvsupped 30. Nov. 2002 0:00 GMT) I see these stange "*** no timer interrupts on CPU 0 ***" messages. Since Freebsd runs fine, besides of the X11 Problems I need to evaluate a litte more (unpected machine check on XServer start), I wonder if this message indicates something bad and how it can be avoided. This is the output of my systems configuration: >>>show conf Digital AlphaPC 164LX 533 MHz SRM Console V5.8-1 OpenVMS PALcode V1.21-2, Digital UNIX PALcode V1.23-2 SROM Revision: 3.1.2 Alpha 21164A-2 Pyxis ASIC Pass 2 MEMORY 256 MBytes of system memory Bank # Size Base Addr ------ ---------- --------- 0 128 MB 000000000 1 128 MB 008000000 Total Bad Pages = 0 Total Good Memory = 256 MBytes Bcache Size = 2 MB PCI Bus Bus 00 Slot 06: Adaptec AIC-7880 pka0.7.0.6.0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dka0.0.0.6.0 IBM DCAS-32160W dka200.2.0.6.0 PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-32 Bus 00 Slot 07: DE500-BA Network Controller ewa0.0.0.7.0 08-00-2B-C3-0B-76 Bus 00 Slot 08: Intel 82378 Bridge to Bus 1, ISA Bus 00 Slot 09: 051B102B/0100102B Bus 00 Slot 11: CMD PCI0646 IDE dqa.0.0.11.0 ISA Slot Device Name Type Enabled BaseAddr IRQ DMA 0 0 MOUSE Embedded Yes 60 12 1 KBD Embedded Yes 60 1 2 COM1 Embedded Yes 3f8 4 3 COM2 Embedded Yes 2f8 3 4 LPT1 Embedded Yes 3bc 7 5 FLOPPY Embedded Yes 3f0 6 2 Regards, Oliver Schonefeld -- -------------------------------------------------------- And remember: "To Infinity And Far Beyond ... Somehow?!" Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me in your ~/.signature to help me spread! <- Save this lifeform ;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 6:30:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9F237B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [193.197.184.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9A843EB2 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:30:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailnull@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with gbsmtp id 18Iraj-0004xZ-00; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 15:30:33 +0100 Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB2ESAfB003672 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:28:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mailnull@localhost.mips.inka.de) Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB2ESA1W003671 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 15:28:10 +0100 (CET) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: "no timer interrupts" message on PC164LX in SRM console Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20021202125400.GA13134@mime.TechFak.Uni-Bielefeld.DE> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oliver Schonefeld wrote: > I recently got a DEC 164LX mainboard with a 533 CPU and 265 MB Ram. > When booting FreeBSD (4.7-STABLE, cvsupped 30. Nov. 2002 0:00 GMT) I see > these stange "*** no timer interrupts on CPU 0 ***" messages. I get these on my PC164, too. No ill effects, as far as I can tell. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 6:56: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EE737B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cma2600.org (h00104b2fcc85.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.147.198.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E52843EBE for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from setient@reva.sixgirls.org) Received: by cma2600.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A7253155; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cma2600.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD66030; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:55:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:54:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ronald Cotoni X-X-Sender: setient@cma2600.org To: Jarkko Santala Cc: Falko Meyer , "" Subject: Re: 433 au In-Reply-To: <20021202092405.I33855-100000@trillian.santala.org> Message-ID: <20021202095350.I81474-100000@cma2600.org> References: <20021202092405.I33855-100000@trillian.santala.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org should i let dd finish or not? On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Jarkko Santala wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Setient wrote: > > > it has a terminator on the cable that isn't the problem it has macos > > partitions on it and it don't like reading the size therefore reporting > > it has no disk which is completely bogus i need a way to lowlevel format > > it from srm or something. > > No, do as he told below. Boot from a floppy and issue a command like this: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/foo > > foo begin the harddrive device. > > You can also specify bs and count if you like or just let that run for a > few seconds. Then reboot with your preferred installation media. > > What that does is clears the partitions and whatever you have on the > beginning of the disk, forcing size and all other things to be detected > properly. > > I think I used a NetBSD floppy to do this a while ago, because I couldn't > do it from a FreeBSD one or something. A bootable installation CD probably > works OK too if you have around. > > -jake > > > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Falko Meyer wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:59:55 +0100 > > > From: Falko Meyer > > > To: Setient , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: 433 au > > > > > > Setient wrote: > > > > > > > > i have a scsi disk a 36 gig 10k rpm seagate cheetah it was formerly in a > > > > mac running mac linux. I try to put it in the freebsd machine then boot > > > > off cdrom but alas it comes up with unable to determin hd size then i > > > > can't go further cause it says there is no harddisk present. is there a > > > > way i can get rid of the information that is on the hd without a mac? > > > Boot a Linux Bootdisk (i usually take Slackware Boot- and Rootdisks) and > > > run dd or do a lowlevel format which should be provided by the > > > hostadapter's BIOS (on a PC). Maybe there is also a way using > > > BSD-Bootdisks. > > > > > > MfG > > > Falko Meyer > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Jarkko Santala http://www.iki.fi/~jake/ > System Administrator 2001:670:83:f08::/64 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 10: 4:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA7537B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ABF43ECF for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.197] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.91 #2) id 18Iuva-00067T-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Dec 2002 19:04:18 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id EEA9C410 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:04:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 59781261 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:04:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: gcc crosscompiler From: Jan Lentfer To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <15851.37482.243675.242712@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <1038434559.562.1.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.16791.647045.864600@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038435198.906.0.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.17433.660530.584412@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038435620.906.3.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.17912.810655.312936@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038436097.900.7.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.18994.174102.690740@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038437823.906.20.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.27784.735180.819975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038848227.1607.17.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15851.37482.243675.242712@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1038852250.1606.21.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 02 Dec 2002 19:04:11 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, could someone be so kind and tell how to setup gcc as a cross compiler for alpha on x86? TIA, Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 10:25: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F8037B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0862C43E9C for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:25:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB2IOxqe055876; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:24:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB2INhw7055855; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:23:43 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc crosscompiler Message-ID: <20021202182343.GA55837@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <15845.17433.660530.584412@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038435620.906.3.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.17912.810655.312936@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038436097.900.7.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.18994.174102.690740@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038437823.906.20.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.27784.735180.819975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038848227.1607.17.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15851.37482.243675.242712@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038852250.1606.21.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1038852250.1606.21.camel@jan-linnb.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:04:11PM +0100, Jan Lentfer wrote: > could someone be so kind and tell how to setup gcc as a cross compiler > for alpha on x86? For building FreeBSD on, or your own projects? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 14:29:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EDF37B401; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896CC43EC2; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gB2MRse22614; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:57:54 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:58:39 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id IAA24024; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:54:30 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR5ZG5FR; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:54:34 +1030 Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:54:33 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Jan Lentfer , "" Subject: Re: gcc crosscompiler In-Reply-To: <20021202182343.GA55837@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: <20021203085307.C68050-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <15845.17433.660530.584412@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038435620.906.3.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.17912.810655.312936@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038436097.900.7.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.18994.174102.690740@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038437823.906.20.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15845.27784.735180.819975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038848227.1607.17.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <15851.37482.243675.242712@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <1038852250.1606.21.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <20021202182343.GA55837@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think it is something like: # make TARGET_ARCH=alpha buildworld - aW On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:04:11PM +0100, Jan Lentfer wrote: > could someone be so kind and tell how to setup gcc as a cross compiler > for alpha on x86? For building FreeBSD on, or your own projects? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 2 17:30: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2483C37B404 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A202B43EBE for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB31U2x3058121 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB31U2lL058120; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6657837B401 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.braz.ru (ns.braz.ru [194.84.218.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08AE43EA9 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:27:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from amels@mail.braz.ru) Received: by mail.braz.ru (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D69D7A7BF; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:27:44 +0800 (IRKT) Message-Id: <20021203012744.7D69D7A7BF@mail.braz.ru> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:27:44 +0800 (IRKT) From: Sergey Amelyuschenko Reply-To: Sergey Amelyuschenko To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 45947 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: init does not invoke getty >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Dec 02 17:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sergey Amelyuschenko >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE alpha >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #6: Mon Dec 2 17:30:23 IRKT 2002 adminu5@mail.ru:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ALPHA alpha >Description: About one month ago after usual buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld/mergemaster procedure I have noticed strange thing - getty proccess was gone. Basically, /sbin/init is running, /etc/ttys is the same as last version in cvs repository: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/etc.alpha/ttys?rev=1.10 but getty is not invoked by init anymore! Of course there are no local consoles and the only way to log in to the system is through ssh. I thought this was a temporary glitch, but this problem was not fixed by rebuilding the system 2 weeks later. Then I tried to rebuild yesterday (12/02/02) - problem is still here :-( >How-To-Repeat: cvsup to stable and rebuild an alpha system. >Fix: Not known. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 3 11:14:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162BB37B401 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683D243EC2 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB3JE3mf058449 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB3JE3fZ058446 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:02 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PCMCIA support Message-ID: <20021203141010.L58437-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone managed to get any pcmcia devices working under 4.7? I successfully compiled the kernel with the card and wi driver however when I try to pull tuples offa any of my cards I get ( -1 should be 10) error. Any ideas? preferebly b4 the wife gets home so she can have her inet back up. Thanks. Paul Halliday. http://dp.penix.org ------------------- "And so your god bungled his work deliberately, in order to tempt or test his creature - did he then not know, did he then not doubt what the result would be?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 3 14:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F34837B401 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3606043EC2 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB3MA3x3078619 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB3MA2e8078618; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212032210.gB3MA2e8078618@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Reply-To: Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/45947; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Andrew Gallatin To: Sergey Amelyuschenko Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:03:08 -0500 (EST) Sergey Amelyuschenko writes: > >Description: > About one month ago after usual > buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld/mergemaster procedure I > have noticed strange thing - getty proccess was gone. Basically, /sbin/init > is running, /etc/ttys is the same as last version in cvs repository: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/etc.alpha/ttys?rev=1.10 > but getty is not invoked by init anymore! > Of course there are no local consoles and the only way to log in to the > system is through ssh. > I thought this was a temporary glitch, but this problem was not fixed by > rebuilding the system 2 weeks later. Then I tried to rebuild yesterday > (12/02/02) - problem is still here :-( > > >How-To-Repeat: > cvsup to stable and rebuild an alpha system. I updated my alpha to todays -stable to check on your problem and, I'm sorry, but I do not see it: FreeBSD/alpha (monet) (ttyd0) login: gallatin Password: <...> % tty /dev/ttyd0 Monet is an xp1000 with a serial console. Are you using serial or graphics console? Can you please provide us with a dmesg and your kernel config file? Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 1:26:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115C637B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3260843EBE for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:26:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB49QHp5009811 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:56:17 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <002501c29b18$b6fc3ea0$0800000a@pepe> From: "alex" To: Subject: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:39:56 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy all, I have just built /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base on my Alpha pws 500au. However, this is the result: > sudo make install clean Password: ===> Installing for linux_base-7.1_2 Linux mode is not enabled. Loading linux kernel module now... kldload: can't load linux: No such file or directory The linux kernel module could not be loaded. Please enable linux mode manually and retry. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base. Also when I run the aforementioned command I get this message on the console: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Ok, so I try and manually load it then: > sudo kldload linux kldload: can't load linux: No such file or directory > But there is: > ls -l /modules/linux.ko -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 122530 Oct 9 19:57 /modules/linux.ko* > Unfortunately I am using a 4.7-RELEASE bec -STABLE and -CURRENT wouldn't build due to my promise raid controller (Ultra 100 TX2). Other kernel modules load, its just linux.ko that doesn't. Ideas anyone ?? - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 1:35: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9DE37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C050B43EB2 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB49Ytp5018540; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:04:57 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <003e01c29b19$ec9e9a20$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" Cc: References: <103899418201@internode.on.net.au> Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:48:03 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I shouldn't have to do that. I should be able to load it manually with kldload. - aW ----- Original Message ----- From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI To: alex Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:59 PM Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > Hi! > > Maybe, you have only to edit /etc/rc.conf and add therein > > linux_enable="YES" > > Just reboot the system, and you can make use of the linux emulator. > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 1:59:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F1137B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E60E843ED1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 01:59:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB49xOp5043878 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:29:25 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: Subject: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:13:02 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I have installed a Promise TX2 Ultra ATA/100 controller into my Alpha pws 500au. The kernel seems to probe and attach a driver to the device: /var/run/dmesg.boot .... atapci1: port 0x8100-0x810f,0x8110-0x8113,0x8120-0x8127,0x8130-0x8133,0x8140-0x8147 mem 0x80914000-0 However, further into the process of booting, when the ATA driver is attached to ad0 I get these errors: Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499864662 Hz ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 tn 15 sn 0) retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 tn 15 sn 0) retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 tn 15 sn 0) retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 tn 15 sn 0) falling back to PIO mode ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata3-master PIO4 I'm worried about the line "falling back to PIO mode". Does this mean that ad0 is running at ATA33 ? I'm not sure if or how the ATA disk and ATA controller are related to causing the ATA disk to go into PIO mode. Can anyone sugest a solution to get the disk to usemode rather than PIO mode ? Thanks - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 2: 2:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738B37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAD143EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB4A2Lp5047022; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:32:22 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <005701c29b1d$c163df60$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" Cc: References: <103899470701@internode.on.net.au> Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:15:58 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ahhhh. That solved the problem. What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? Thanks anyway. - aW ----- Original Message ----- From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI To: alex Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > Hi! > > I forgot telling you that linux module need the osf1 module. > Osf1 module should be loaded before linux module, either > manually or automatically. > # The message you got shows you need the osf1 module. > > Yori > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 2:19:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F134837B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lyra.enemy.org (lyra.enemy.org [62.116.11.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA03543EA9 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:19:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Received: (qmail 20798 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2002 10:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO satanii.enemy.org) (62.116.11.3) by lyra.enemy.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 2002 10:19:43 -0000 Received: from satanii.enemy.org (cjm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satanii.enemy.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4AK3vt084057; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:20:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cjm@satanii.enemy.org) Message-Id: <200212041020.gB4AK3vt084057@satanii.enemy.org> From: "Chris J. Mutter" To: "alex" Cc: "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, cjm@satanii.enemy.org Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-reply-to: lex's message of Wed, 04 Dec 2002 09:15:58 +1030. <005701c29b1d$c163df60$0800000a@pepe> X-Sig1: This Message is MIME-less... X-Mailer: NMH-1.4 Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:20:03 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? see the open send-pr at: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=alpha/38031 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI > To: alex > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined later, cjm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 2:23: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EF637B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54BA43EBE for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 02:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB4AMrp5067252; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:52:54 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <007a01c29b20$a1b44580$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: "Chris J. Mutter" Cc: "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" , , References: <200212041020.gB4AK3vt084057@satanii.enemy.org> Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:36:25 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Shouldn't there be a pkg-message regarding this ? - aW ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris J. Mutter To: alex Cc: Yoriaki FUJIMORI ; ; Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:50 PM Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > hi, > > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? > > see the open send-pr at: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=alpha/38031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI > > To: alex > > Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:08 PM > > Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined > > later, > cjm > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 3:31:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4C937B404 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E16C43E4A for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp708.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.146.195]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB4BVjp5036547 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:01:46 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <008801c29b2a$3f5a2800$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: Subject: vesa.ko Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:45:22 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy again, Why isn't there a vesa.ko module for Alpha 4.7 -RELEASE ? I have installed mga drivers, but there doesn't seem to be any vesa module under /modules ? Is this the norm ? - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 3:40: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9706C37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C54343ECF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 03:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.13]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4Bdx1f066787 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:39:59 +0100 (CET) Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B21936D81; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:39:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF6C30C01 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:39:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:39:58 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it X-X-Sender: fddi@dijkstra.fi.infn.it To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: alphastation 500/333 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020920) (postino.fi.infn.it) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-98.5 required=5.9 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_PINE, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I got a alphastation 500/333. There is Digital UNix isntalled on IT, I Wanted to isntall FReeBSD. The problem is that at boot time I got this error: SERR on PCI and it stops booting. I think this messagecomes from SRM. anyone has an idea about this error and a possible fix? thanks a lot Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 5:43:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0320C37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A4343E88 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10158; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB4DhAi92231; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:43:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15854.1646.533496.929062@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:43:10 -0500 (EST) To: "alex" Cc: "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" , Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-Reply-To: <005701c29b1d$c163df60$0800000a@pepe> References: <103899470701@internode.on.net.au> <005701c29b1d$c163df60$0800000a@pepe> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org alex writes: > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our osf1.ko module. The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it out. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 5:54: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D5C37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5506243E88 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 05:54:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA10920; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB4DrYX92240; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:53:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15854.2270.830291.736048@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:53:34 -0500 (EST) To: "alex" Cc: Subject: Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 In-Reply-To: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> References: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org alex writes: > Hi all, > > I have installed a Promise TX2 Ultra ATA/100 controller into my Alpha pws > 500au. > The kernel seems to probe and attach a driver to the device: <...> > ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 > tn 15 sn 0) falling back to PIO mode > ad0: 38166MB [77545/16/63] at ata3-master PIO4 > > I'm worried about the line "falling back to PIO mode". Does this mean that > ad0 is running at ATA33 ? > No, it means its running in PIO mode like the message says. Why? Well, alphas are electrinically noisy, and physically cramped. The 500au in particular was designed by some sort of sadist who wanted things to look pretty and didn't give a damn how things worked on the inside. If I had a $1.00 for every drop of blood I ever lost by skinning my knuckles inserting or removing drives or pci cards from miatas, I'd be rich. Rant aside, ATA cables are VERY sensative to EMI noise. What's happening to you is that the cable is either badly twisted, running too close to an EMI source, or both. This is causing the transfers across the cable between the controller and the disk to be corrupted (that's the ICRC error you're seeing). This is NOT the fault of the software, rather its a real hardware problemn with your setup. The software is saving you from serious disk corruption. I suggest moving things around inside and making sure that the cables are kink-free and don't run close to a source of EMI noise (cpu, powersupply, other pci cards). This is much easier said than done on a miata like yours. You might also consider purchasing the highest quality cables you can find (I have no suggestions as to brand..). Maybe serial ata has better sheilding and would do better. I dunno. I do know that it took me 3 sets of cables and considerable fiddling to get ata33 to work on a UP1000. Alternatively, you could use atacontrol to force a slower mode like udma66 or udma33 which the cable might be more capable of handling. I have an old promise card in my miata which seems to handle udma33 OK. Good luck. You'll need it. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 7:49: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C838237B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 07:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9D43E9C for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 07:49:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB4FmtsP078918 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4FmsOd051202 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4FmsuC067626; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB4FmrRv067625; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:53 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: alex Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vesa.ko Message-ID: <20021204154852.GF67279@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <008801c29b2a$3f5a2800$0800000a@pepe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <008801c29b2a$3f5a2800$0800000a@pepe> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:45:22AM +1030, alex wrote: > Howdy again, > > Why isn't there a vesa.ko module for Alpha 4.7 -RELEASE ? > I have installed mga drivers, but there doesn't seem to be any vesa module > under /modules ? > Is this the norm ? The vesa BIOS on your graphic card is written for x86 CPUs. There is no x86 emulation code in FreeBSD to call those functions. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 9:25:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D10737B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C3543E4A for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 1985 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2002 17:25:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2002 17:25:42 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4HPauH041402; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:25:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15854.1646.533496.929062@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 12:25:43 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Yoriaki FUJIMORI , alex Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Dec-2002 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > alex writes: > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? > > Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, > since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never > bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our > osf1.ko module. > > The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically > loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who > wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on > to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look > into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it > out. The problem is here: > grep MODULE * linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:DECLARE_MODULE(linuxelf, linux_elf_mod, SI_SUB_EXEC, SI_ORDER_ANY); All the dependencies are recorded for the non-existent linux module. In actuality, on Alpha there is a linuxelf module, and on i386 there are linuxelf and linuxaout modules. I'm trying to think about the best way to go about fixing this. Well, I have an untested patch at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/linux.patch that might fix this. FWIW, the dependency of linux compat on the SYSV modules was broken on both i386 and alpha for the same reason. Use 'patch -p6' to apply this patch btw. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 11: 3: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CCF37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:02:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1008A43E88 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 11:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB4J1YdN005466; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:02:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB4J1Yw6005465; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:01:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 20:01:34 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Message-ID: <20021204200134.A5450@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200212032210.gB3MA2e8078618@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200212032210.gB3MA2e8078618@freefall.freebsd.org>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:10:02PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:10:02PM -0800, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > The following reply was made to PR alpha/45947; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Sergey Amelyuschenko > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty > Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:03:08 -0500 (EST) > > Sergey Amelyuschenko writes: > > >Description: > > About one month ago after usual > > buildworld/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld/mergemaster procedure I > > have noticed strange thing - getty proccess was gone. Basically, /sbin/init > > is running, /etc/ttys is the same as last version in cvs repository: > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/etc.alpha/ttys?rev=1.10 > > but getty is not invoked by init anymore! > > Of course there are no local consoles and the only way to log in to the > > system is through ssh. > > I thought this was a temporary glitch, but this problem was not fixed by > > rebuilding the system 2 weeks later. Then I tried to rebuild yesterday > > (12/02/02) - problem is still here :-( > > > > >How-To-Repeat: > > cvsup to stable and rebuild an alpha system. > > I updated my alpha to todays -stable to check on your problem and, I'm > sorry, but I do not see it: > > FreeBSD/alpha (monet) (ttyd0) > > login: gallatin > Password: > <...> > % tty > /dev/ttyd0 > > Monet is an xp1000 with a serial console. Are you using serial or > graphics console? > > Can you please provide us with a dmesg and your kernel config file? I will update my DS10 (serial console) as well and check if I can reproduce the issue Sergey reported. Stay tuned. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:36:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED35A37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp09.wxs.nl (smtp09.wxs.nl [195.121.6.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BDB43EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:36:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp09.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H6M6ON03.I65 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:36:23 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:36:23 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? Message-ID: FreeBSD: Homepage: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a version of Mozilla that runs on FreeBSD/alpha? I'm looking for a good browser. Unfortunately, the only browser that I can find is Netscape 4.78, but that is getting old and is not very stable. I tried some alpha versions of Mozilla (for red hat linux and dec osf5.0), but they didn't run. Regards, Marco -- I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. You couldn't park anywhere near the place. -- Steven Wright To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:40:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFB137B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14843EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:40:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14247; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB4Ldt392672; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:39:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15854.30251.794753.459568@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:39:55 -0500 (EST) To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marco Beishuizen writes: > I tried some alpha versions of Mozilla (for red hat linux and dec osf5.0), > but they didn't run. Tru64 will never run because it uses native Tru64 threading, which we don't support. Linux versions should run. They did the last time I tried them. Details? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:41:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC5337B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wi4d22.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.101.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F59343EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from mukappabeta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F4BA93E; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:41:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:41:11 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021024 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? References: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.65.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marco Beishuizen wrote: > Is there a version of Mozilla that runs on FreeBSD/alpha? I'm looking for > a good browser. Unfortunately, the only browser that I can find is > Netscape 4.78, but that is getting old and is not very stable. Doesn't the www/mozilla port compile? -- Matthias Buelow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:45:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA6437B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7144443E88 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:45:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.27.66] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18JhKN-0007Tt-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:45:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id B4D991D5; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:44:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 223E9C5; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:44:48 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? From: Jan Lentfer To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1039038275.1825.3.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 04 Dec 2002 22:44:35 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Mit, 2002-12-04 um 22.36 schrieb Marco Beishuizen: > Is there a version of Mozilla that runs on FreeBSD/alpha? I'm looking for > a good browser. Unfortunately, the only browser that I can find is > Netscape 4.78, but that is getting old and is not very stable. > > I tried some alpha versions of Mozilla (for red hat linux and dec osf5.0), > but they didn't run. Netscape is stable for me.... but if you search the archives of this list you will find some mails from me about getting the Redhat/Linux Alpha version of mozilla 1.0.0 running on FreeBSD/Alpha Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:46:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DB037B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049BA43EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:46:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.27.66] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18JhLL-0000Tn-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:46:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 459A31D5; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:45:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from jan-linnb.lan (jan-linnb.lan [192.168.0.25]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 767AFC5; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:45:49 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? From: Jan Lentfer To: Matthias Buelow Cc: Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD alpha mailing list In-Reply-To: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> References: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1039038336.1826.6.camel@jan-linnb.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 04 Dec 2002 22:45:36 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am Mit, 2002-12-04 um 22.41 schrieb Matthias Buelow: > Marco Beishuizen wrote: > > > Is there a version of Mozilla that runs on FreeBSD/alpha? I'm looking for > > a good browser. Unfortunately, the only browser that I can find is > > Netscape 4.78, but that is getting old and is not very stable. > > Doesn't the www/mozilla port compile? No, it doesn't. Did it ever compile???? Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 13:54:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C037B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E6243EC5 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 13:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H6M7J800.M30; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:54:44 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 22:54:44 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: <15854.30251.794753.459568@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: References: <15854.30251.794753.459568@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> FreeBSD: Homepage: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, the wise Andrew Gallatin spoke, and said: > > Marco Beishuizen writes: > > I tried some alpha versions of Mozilla (for red hat linux and dec osf5.0), > > but they didn't run. > > Tru64 will never run because it uses native Tru64 threading, which we > don't support. > > Linux versions should run. They did the last time I tried them. > Details? > > Drew > I didn't try to compile from source. What do I need to download for this? The install script in the linux version (mozilla-1.0.0-9.alpha.rpm) actually isn't a install script at all and doesn't run. When I try to run the mozilla binary I get: ./mozilla: 79: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Marco -- When I was younger, I could remember anything, whether it had happened or not; but my faculties are decaying now and soon I shall be so I cannot remember any but the things that never happened. It is sad to go to pieces like this but we all have to do it. -- Mark Twain To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 14: 1: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015B37B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FAD43E4A for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404003BF2DC for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:01:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB4M13322476; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:01:03 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:03:40 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Marco Beishuizen Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20021204145052.C20870-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the HP/CPQ/DEC site where they have redhat rpms you can get a 1.0-ish mozilla rpm package, which you can run under linux emu -- that is what I'm currently doing on my alpha. I found the package to install by going to rpmfind.net and looking for mozilla on the alpha architecture... The one I ended up with was off HP's site, I think. (I stashed a copy of the rpm on ftp://ftp.clift.org/mozilla-1.0.0-9.alpha.rpm but there is probably something newer now) Some of the responses to your email wonder if the build has ever worked from ports - the answer is yes, it worked in the pre 1.X days but with the addition of the xpcom stuff, it has been continuously broken - something about our tool-chain generating different function offsets than the linux tool-chain. There was some discussion of this in mid October IIRC - xpcom is this nifty way to call functions back and forth between different languages and requires platform support for every platform that mozilla works on - they grope around in function call tables specific to each machine/os. I seem to remember that someone thought they could get it to work - this was just before 4.7-R was made and the hope was to ship with a ports tree that worked -- I guess interest in this has waned... - I eventually gave up and found that linux rpm -- if only there were a more up-to-date one... Shrug. Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 14: 6:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2181937B404 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (wi4d22.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de [132.187.101.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B31C43EA9 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:06:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mkb@mukappabeta.de) Received: from mukappabeta.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by reiher.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AECBA93E; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:06:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3DEE7C54.8010009@mukappabeta.de> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 23:06:12 +0100 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20021024 X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Lentfer Cc: Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? References: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> <1039038336.1826.6.camel@jan-linnb.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.65.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Lentfer wrote: >>Doesn't the www/mozilla port compile? > No, it doesn't. Did it ever compile???? Haven't tried it on alpha but on i386 it sure does. But I just see: .if ${ARCH} == "alpha" BROKEN= "core dumps on alpha during post-build" .endif so he's probably out of luck... perhaps wait until 1.2.1 make it into the ports tree and look if that one's better... Maybe the maintainer was bitten by low resource limits? -- Matthias Buelow To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 14:10:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC4137B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447CB43EBE for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:10:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15876; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB4M9tn92708; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:09:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15854.32051.751017.749024@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:09:55 -0500 (EST) To: Matthias Buelow Cc: Jan Lentfer , Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: <3DEE7C54.8010009@mukappabeta.de> References: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> <1039038336.1826.6.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <3DEE7C54.8010009@mukappabeta.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthias Buelow writes: > > so he's probably out of luck... perhaps wait until 1.2.1 make it into > the ports tree and look if that one's better... > Maybe the maintainer was bitten by low resource limits? No, xpcomm causes core dumps because of our weird C++ abi. So I worked around that a few months back, and managed to crash a little later. Still no joy. Read the archives, there should be some patches there if anybody wants to work on it. Mozilla on FreeBSD-Current crashes for (probably) the same non-xpcomm reason as above. That might be a better place to start. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 14:17:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B836437B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3EB43EB2 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 14:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mbeis@wxs.nl) Received: from tsunami.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H6M8L402.KYH; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:17:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 23:17:28 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: Fred Clift Cc: FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: <20021204145052.C20870-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Message-ID: References: <20021204145052.C20870-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> FreeBSD: Homepage: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, the wise Fred Clift spoke, and said: > > On the HP/CPQ/DEC site where they have redhat rpms you can get a 1.0-ish > mozilla rpm package, which you can run under linux emu -- that is what I'm > currently doing on my alpha. > > I found the package to install by going to rpmfind.net and looking for > mozilla on the alpha architecture... > > The one I ended up with was off HP's site, I think. > > (I stashed a copy of the rpm on > ftp://ftp.clift.org/mozilla-1.0.0-9.alpha.rpm but there is probably > something newer now) This is the one I found on Mozilla's ftp site, unfortunately I didn't found a newer version. I guess this version is still the most recent for alpha. Marco -- This is the first numerical problem I ever did. It demonstrates the power of computers: Enter lots of data on calorie & nutritive content of foods. Instruct the thing to maximize a function describing nutritive content, with a minimum level of each component, for fixed caloric content. The results are that one should eat each day: 1/2 chicken 1 egg 1 glass of skim milk 27 heads of lettuce. -- Rev. Adrian Melott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 15:19: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E25937B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B1843EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:19:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id F1BAD39305; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:18:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03DD581; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:18:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:18:45 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: alex Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 In-Reply-To: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> Message-ID: References: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, alex wrote: > Hi all, > > I have installed a Promise TX2 Ultra ATA/100 controller into my Alpha pws > 500au. > The kernel seems to probe and attach a driver to the device: > > ad0: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 of 0-3 (ad0 bn 78165297; cn 77544 > tn 15 sn 0) retrying I had the same problem with my 164sx and a promise TX2 100. I used brand new cables and a 19" case. I'm not convinced that em-noise is the issue. Unfortunately I had no time to diagnose the issue and settled for working dma with a udma33 cable. -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 15:44:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8322937B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCCE43E9C for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7DE2A8A5; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:44:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "alex" , "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-Reply-To: <15854.1646.533496.929062@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:44:29 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021204234429.1E7DE2A8A5@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > alex writes: > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? > > Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, > since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never > bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our > osf1.ko module. > > The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically > loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who > wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on > to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look > into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it > out. This is quite well solved in 5.0: peter@daintree[3:41pm]~src/sys/alpha/osf1-121> grep MODULE_ * osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(osf1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); peter@daintree[3:41pm]~src/sys/alpha/osf1-122> cd ../linux/ peter@daintree[3:42pm]~src/sys/alpha/linux-123> grep MODULE_ * linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); ie: linux depends on osf1. osf1 depends on the sysv* stuff. linux also depends on the sysv*. All the dependency loading happens automatically if needed. There is no good solution for 4.x because the dependency system runs at the file level (rather than module level) and cannot detect when a module is already in the kernel. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 15:47:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E9C37B401; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E0143E88; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71802A7EA; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: John Baldwin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Yoriaki FUJIMORI , alex Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:47:41 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021204234741.D71802A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > > On 04-Dec-2002 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > alex writes: > > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? > > > > Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, > > since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never > > bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our > > osf1.ko module. > > > > The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically > > loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who > > wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on > > to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look > > into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it > > out. > > The problem is here: > > > grep MODULE * > linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); > linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); > linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); > linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); > linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); > linux_sysvec.c:DECLARE_MODULE(linuxelf, linux_elf_mod, SI_SUB_EXEC, SI_ORDER_ ANY); > > All the dependencies are recorded for the non-existent linux module. > In actuality, on Alpha there is a linuxelf module, and on i386 there > are linuxelf and linuxaout modules. I'm trying to think about the > best way to go about fixing this. No. The MODULE_VERSION/MODULE_DEPEND stuff is completely seperate to DECLARE_MODULE. They are not in the same name space. They are just tags. This is so that we can have tags in raw binary (no executable code) files. > Well, I have an untested patch at > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/linux.patch that might fix this. > FWIW, the dependency of linux compat on the SYSV modules was broken on > both i386 and alpha for the same reason. Use 'patch -p6' to apply this > patch btw. Nope, this assumes a connection between the namespaces. > -- > > John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 15:51:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EF537B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF2243EAF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:51:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1672A7EA; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 15:51:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin , "alex" , "Yoriaki FUJIMORI" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-Reply-To: <20021204234429.1E7DE2A8A5@canning.wemm.org> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:51:20 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021204235120.9E1672A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > alex writes: > > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. > > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? > > > > Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, > > since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never > > bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our > > osf1.ko module. > > > > The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically > > loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who > > wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on > > to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look > > into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it > > out. > > This is quite well solved in 5.0: ... > > There is no good solution for 4.x because the dependency system runs at > the file level (rather than module level) and cannot detect when a module > is already in the kernel. I've just realized that the 4.x tree has also had the MODULE_VERSION and MODULE_DEPEND stuff MFC'ed. The problem is that they are just stubs in RELENG_4. Maybe this is the source of confusion - those lines do absolutely nothing on 4.x. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 16:40: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C19A37B406 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7746A43EB2 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gB50c6e16011 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:08:06 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:09:47 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id KAA14975; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:49:42 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR5ZKAK0; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:49:46 +1030 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:49:43 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Matthias Buelow Cc: Jan Lentfer , Marco Beishuizen , FreeBSD alpha mailing list Subject: Re: mozilla on freebsd/alpha? In-Reply-To: <3DEE7C54.8010009@mukappabeta.de> Message-ID: <20021205104800.Y43610-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <3DEE7677.6030409@mukappabeta.de> <1039038336.1826.6.camel@jan-linnb.lan> <3DEE7C54.8010009@mukappabeta.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, and this SUX! Has anyone been able to build the /usr/ports/www/linux-mozilla port ? - aW Haven't tried it on alpha but on i386 it sure does. But I just see: .if ${ARCH} == "alpha" BROKEN= "core dumps on alpha during post-build" .endif so he's probably out of luck... perhaps wait until 1.2.1 make it into the ports tree and look if that one's better... Maybe the maintainer was bitten by low resource limits? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 16:48: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F180037B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B080743E9C for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:48:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gB50k8e17190 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:16:08 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:17:47 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id KAA20154; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:55:17 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR5ZKASS; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:55:20 +1030 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:55:16 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alex , "" Subject: Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 In-Reply-To: <15854.2270.830291.736048@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20021205105408.O43610-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> <15854.2270.830291.736048@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why do people always refer to Alpha pws 500au's as "miata" ? >Why? Well, alphas are electrinically noisy, and physically cramped. >The 500au in particular was designed by some sort of sadist who wanted >things to look pretty and didn't give a damn how things worked on the >inside. If I had a $1.00 for every drop of blood I ever lost by >skinning my knuckles inserting or removing drives or pci cards from >miatas, I'd be rich. - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 16:57:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF00837B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E29043ECF for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 16:57:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23499; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB50v9A92872; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:57:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15854.42085.855726.324033@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 19:57:09 -0500 (EST) To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Cc: alex , Subject: Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 In-Reply-To: <20021205105408.O43610-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> <15854.2270.830291.736048@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20021205105408.O43610-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilkinson,Alex writes: > > Why do people always refer to Alpha pws 500au's as "miata" ? > That was the internal name for the product before the marketing dweebs came up with "personal workstation xxxa[u]. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 17:53:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7032337B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8A243EA9 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:53:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0353.cvx40-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([216.244.43.98] helo=mindspring.com) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18JlCb-0003bh-00; Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:53:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3DEEB142.20FC85FF@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:52:02 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alex , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 78165297 References: <004601c29b1d$57df3d00$0800000a@pepe> <15854.2270.830291.736048@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20021205105408.O43610-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Wilkinson,Alex" wrote: > Why do people always refer to Alpha pws 500au's as "miata" ? > > >Why? Well, alphas are electrinically noisy, and physically cramped. > >The 500au in particular was designed by some sort of sadist who wanted > >things to look pretty and didn't give a damn how things worked on the > >inside. If I had a $1.00 for every drop of blood I ever lost by > >skinning my knuckles inserting or removing drives or pci cards from > >miatas, I'd be rich. It was the project name before it was released. It had to be renamed on release because Mazda would have sued them. I've never been able to find out whether it was named after someone having owned a Mazda Miata, or if it was named that way because it was so cramped inside, like a Mazda Miata. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 4 18:46:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334737B401 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:46:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5352F43E9C for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2002 18:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gB52ife04719 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:14:41 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:15:37 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id NAA25974; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:02:58 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR5ZK24J; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:03:02 +1030 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:02:58 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: Peter Wemm Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alex , Yoriaki FUJIMORI , "" Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined In-Reply-To: <20021204234429.1E7DE2A8A5@canning.wemm.org> Message-ID: <20021205130210.I85125-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <20021204234429.1E7DE2A8A5@canning.wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Only if -CURRENT would build on my Alpha ;( - aW This is quite well solved in 5.0: peter@daintree[3:41pm]~src/sys/alpha/osf1-121> grep MODULE_ * osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(osf1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); osf1_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(osf1, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); peter@daintree[3:41pm]~src/sys/alpha/osf1-122> cd ../linux/ peter@daintree[3:42pm]~src/sys/alpha/linux-123> grep MODULE_ * linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); ie: linux depends on osf1. osf1 depends on the sysv* stuff. linux also depends on the sysv*. All the dependency loading happens automatically if needed. There is no good solution for 4.x because the dependency system runs at the file level (rather than module level) and cannot detect when a module is already in the kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 0:51:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62AB37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971143EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:50:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JriV-0005ja-04; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 09:50:43 +0100 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.20.194]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JriK-1HEpmKC; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:50:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 48848 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 08:50:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 08:50:31 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 09:50:31 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: bootable RAID Controllers Message-Id: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6cvs15 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, i'm wondering if there are SCSI RAID Controllers which are bootable in my PC164LX System? Sombody own such a Controller? Or can't the system boot from a RAID Controller? Can I use a RAID controller then with a booted FreeBSD? Or is a RAID Controller unusable in any way with my Alpha? Greetings, Oliver Lehmann -- Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.pofo.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 3:34:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE10037B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B380543EBE for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:34:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 667B439305; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:34:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB49D581; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:34:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:34:18 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers In-Reply-To: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Message-ID: References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Hello, > > i'm wondering if there are SCSI RAID Controllers which are bootable in my > PC164LX System? Sombody own such a Controller? Or can't the system boot > from a RAID Controller? Can I use a RAID controller then with a booted > FreeBSD? Or is a RAID Controller unusable in any way with my Alpha? Wether a raid controller is bootable depends on the srm support. I guess some compaq/dec controllers should work. Once FreeBSD is booted most raid controllers will work. Booting from ide/floppy is usally the easiest way. -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 3:41:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDA737B401; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta09.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B8543ECD; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:41:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au) Received: from pootah ([63.60.241.125]) by mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au with SMTP id <20021205114111.CUAX27722.mta09.mail.mel.aone.net.au@pootah>; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:41:11 +1100 Message-ID: <001201c29c53$32067da0$3164a8c0@pootah> From: "Rob B" To: "freebsd-stable" Cc: "freebsd-alpha" Subject: ipfw troubles Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:49:05 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently compiled a new kernel for my Multia to do some firewalling. Now, when trying to show the current rules, I get this: [root@doormat]/root: ipfw list 00000 ip from any to any [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 ^C Relevant kernel options are as follows: options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options RANDOM_IP_ID #See ../../i386/conf/LINT options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=500 #limit verbosity options IPDIVERT #Divert sockets options DUMMYNET #Bandwidth limiter options HZ=200 /etc/rc.conf has firewall_enable="YES" firewall_type=OPEN I'm currently only able to access the box from serial console, and /var/log/ipfw.today shows: 00300 0 0 deny ip from 127.0.0.0:255.0.0.0 to anymber6.loop.bpa.nu 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any Any thoughts? cheers, Rob -- "Teaching should be such that what is offered is perceived as a valuable gift and not as a hard duty." - Albert Einstein This is quote 76 of 1254. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 3:51: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8D137B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix.fh-schmalkalden.de (postfix.fh-schmalkalden.de [194.94.30.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8526743EC5 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:51:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wds_de@yahoo.de) Received: from smtp.fh-schmalkalden.de (viruswall [194.94.30.51]) by postfix.fh-schmalkalden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB4F58009; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:51:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from yahoo.de (ipgraf03.informatik.fh-schmalkalden.de [212.201.64.115]) by smtp.fh-schmalkalden.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D8441300; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:51:01 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3DEF3D9E.1A985CCA@yahoo.de> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:50:54 +0100 From: Falko Meyer Organization: FH Schmalkalden/Germany, dep. of computer science X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-5SGI_137 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald Cotoni , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 433 au References: <20021202092405.I33855-100000@trillian.santala.org> <20021202095350.I81474-100000@cma2600.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ronald Cotoni wrote: > > should i let dd finish or not? You can, but it should not be important. Ist should overwrite a few of the fist megabytes on the disk: > > You can also specify bs and count if you like or just let that run for a > > few seconds. Then reboot with your preferred installation media. Greetings, Falko Meyer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 3:52:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2E437B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout10.sul.t-online.com (mailout10.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC9B43EB2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 03:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout10.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JuY2-0005WQ-06; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:52:06 +0100 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.20.194]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JuXx-0GNEZ6C; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:52:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 49667 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 11:52:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 12:51:59 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Sten Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Message-Id: <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6cvs15 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sten wrote: > Wether a raid controller is bootable depends on the srm support. Thats what i ask about.. I have no clue which RAID controllers my srm knowns. Actually I'm using the newest SRM which is available for this machine (v5.8). > Once FreeBSD is booted most raid controllers will work. And how to configure the raid? Is it possible to move inside these Configuration Utilityat boottime to configure the RAID? Otherwise how should i use such a controller w/o the ability to configure the drives within the controller configuration utility... > Booting from ide/floppy is usally the easiest way. Actually the machine boots from a Tekram DC 390U2W (SYM-895) Controller. But i would like to have the whole Sysmtem on a RAID-5 Host drive. Greetings, Oliver Lehmann -- Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.pofo.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4: 4:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E06137B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD31D43E4A for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:04:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 0B55B39305; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:04:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C4DD581; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:04:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:04:12 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers In-Reply-To: <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Message-ID: References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Sten wrote: > > > > Once FreeBSD is booted most raid controllers will work. > And how to configure the raid? Is it possible to move inside these > Configuration Utilityat boottime to configure the RAID? Otherwise how > should i use such a controller w/o the ability to configure the drives > within the controller configuration utility... Configure it on a pc. > > Booting from ide/floppy is usally the easiest way. > Actually the machine boots from a Tekram DC 390U2W (SYM-895) Controller. > But i would like to have the whole Sysmtem on a RAID-5 Host drive. You can put the kernel op the tekram and the system on raid5. Otherwise you'll have to shop around for the correct scsi controller. http://www.islandco.com/controller.htm is the first link I found :) -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:12:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC29D37B401; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from MX4.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615C743E9C; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kalts@estpak.ee) Received: from tiiu.internal (80-235-34-25-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.34.25]) by MX4.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983F81D00B5; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:12:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from tiiu.internal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5CCV7l002117; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:12:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo@tiiu.internal) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by tiiu.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB5CCThN002116; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:12:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:12:29 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Rob B Cc: freebsd-stable , freebsd-alpha Subject: Re: ipfw troubles Message-ID: <20021205121229.GA2000@tiiu.internal> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <001201c29c53$32067da0$3164a8c0@pootah> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001201c29c53$32067da0$3164a8c0@pootah> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:49:05AM +1100, Rob B wrote: > Recently compiled a new kernel for my Multia to do some firewalling. Now, > when trying to show the current rules, I get this: > > [root@doormat]/root: ipfw list > 00000 ip from any to any [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] > [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode > 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] > [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 len 0] [opcode 0 ^C > > Relevant kernel options are as follows: > > options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies > options RANDOM_IP_ID #See ../../i386/conf/LINT > options IPFIREWALL #firewall > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #enable logging to syslogd(8) > options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support > options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=500 #limit verbosity > options IPDIVERT #Divert sockets > options DUMMYNET #Bandwidth limiter > options HZ=200 You have mixed IPFW and IPFW2, your kernel firewalling code version differs from userspace utility version. It's handled by some /etc/make.conf knob, read up ipfw(8). -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:20:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638A937B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C753F43EB2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:20:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JuzT-0000Pu-01; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 13:20:27 +0100 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.20.194]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JuzC-0ddW5IC; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:20:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 49824 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 12:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 12:20:09 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:20:09 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Sten Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Message-Id: <20021205132009.6191333f.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6cvs15 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sten wrote: > Configure it on a pc. That makes it unuseable ;) When a disk gets damaged, and you have to pull out at first all the components to put it into a pc (at first you have to find one when you are away from home in a computer center) in case the raidcontroler does not automaticaly rebuild the RAID on a new added disk.. then RAID is completely unusable and non-sense on Alpha.... Greetings, Oliver Lehmann -- Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.pofo.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:33:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E30837B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9DD43EBE for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:33:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5CXcdN008670; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:33:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB5CXcD4008669; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:33:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:33:38 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Sten Cc: Oliver Lehmann , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Message-ID: <20021205133338.C8628@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from sten@blinkenlights.nl on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:34:18PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:34:18PM +0100, Sten wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > i'm wondering if there are SCSI RAID Controllers which are bootable in my > > PC164LX System? Sombody own such a Controller? Or can't the system boot > > from a RAID Controller? Can I use a RAID controller then with a booted > > FreeBSD? Or is a RAID Controller unusable in any way with my Alpha? > > Wether a raid controller is bootable depends on the srm support. > I guess some compaq/dec controllers should work. > Once FreeBSD is booted most raid controllers will work. > Booting from ide/floppy is usally the easiest way. Mylex DAC960s are the only ones DEC/CPQ ever sold for Alpha. DAC960 are KZPSC and KZPAC in DEC-speak. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:38:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344F537B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta01.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta01.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AAE43EDA for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au) Received: from pootah ([63.60.241.125]) by mta01.mail.mel.aone.net.au with SMTP id <20021205123900.ENGW20706.mta01.mail.mel.aone.net.au@pootah>; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:39:00 +1100 Message-ID: <000b01c29c5a$eaf35340$3164a8c0@pootah> From: "Rob B" To: "Oliver Lehmann" , "Sten" Cc: References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:36:20 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Lehmann" To: "Sten" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers > Sten wrote: > > > Wether a raid controller is bootable depends on the srm support. > > Thats what i ask about.. I have no clue which RAID controllers my srm > knowns. Actually I'm using the newest SRM which is available for this > machine (v5.8). > > > Once FreeBSD is booted most raid controllers will work. > And how to configure the raid? Is it possible to move inside these > Configuration Utilityat boottime to configure the RAID? Otherwise how > should i use such a controller w/o the ability to configure the drives > within the controller configuration utility... The configuration of the card is done from within srm. > > Booting from ide/floppy is usally the easiest way. > Actually the machine boots from a Tekram DC 390U2W (SYM-895) Controller. > But i would like to have the whole Sysmtem on a RAID-5 Host drive. Some Mylex DAC-960 cards are supported as boot devices, but as to how to know what you srm supports, that's a bit of a mystery. srm isn't documented very well at all - even inside DEC/Compaq/HP. Apart from asking here, check the archives of some of the Alpha Linux mailing lists, Redhat and Debian would be the best bets. Some current- & ex-Alpha engineers are on those lists cheers, Rob -- "Teaching should be such that what is offered is perceived as a valuable gift and not as a hard duty." - Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:45:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20F337B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (mailout03.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.81]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09143ECD for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:44:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from fwd09.sul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JvN0-0002On-0O; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 13:44:46 +0100 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[217.226.20.194]) by fmrl09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18JvMx-2K2KJcC; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:44:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 49954 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 12:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 12:44:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:44:42 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: Wilko Bulte Cc: sten@blinkenlights.nl, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Message-Id: <20021205134442.328299fc.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: <20021205133338.C8628@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205133338.C8628@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6cvs15 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > Mylex DAC960s are the only ones DEC/CPQ ever sold for Alpha. > DAC960 are KZPSC and KZPAC in DEC-speak. So i should buy a Mylex Controller (or must it be a DEC-branded?) e.g. Mylex DAC 960PL and it will work? ;) (I think i now the answer about a "generic" mylex 960 support ;) Greetings, Oliver Lehmann -- Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.pofo.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 4:48:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF5A37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (server07.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3017E43EA9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:48:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael-mackey@uiowa.edu) Received: from server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (server11.icaen.uiowa.edu [128.255.17.51]) by server07.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09585 sent by ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:48:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from focaccia. (12-217-236-86.client.mchsi.com [12.217.236.86]) by server11.icaen.uiowa.edu (8.9.3/smtp-service-1.6) with ESMTP id GAA04719; sent by ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:48:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers From: "Michael A. Mackey" To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: alpha@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20021205132009.6191333f.lehmann@ans-netz.de> References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205125159.6aeac84c.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205132009.6191333f.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 05 Dec 2002 06:48:03 -0600 Message-Id: <1039092484.8445.22.camel@focaccia.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is a line of Mylex DAC690-derived RAID controllers which comprise the DEC/Compaq RaidArray 230 line. You can find these on Ebay for $30-50. I have only tried the DAC690PD; some models require a firmware upgrade to run FreeBSD/Linux. This is an wide ultrascsi RAID board based upon the Intel 960 chip. There are configured using a configuration utility that runs in ARC. These controllers run fine, but the largest drives they can be used with are 9.1 gig. I have booted FreeBSD alpha on a AlphaServer 2100A with these and they work fine. I don't know how they will work on the OEM boards. Cheers! Michael Mackey On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 06:20, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Sten wrote: > > > Configure it on a pc. > > That makes it unuseable ;) When a disk gets damaged, and you have to pull > out at first all the components to put it into a pc (at first you have to > find one when you are away from home in a computer center) in case the > raidcontroler does not automaticaly rebuild the RAID on a new added disk.. > then RAID is completely unusable and non-sense on Alpha.... > > Greetings, Oliver Lehmann > > -- > Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ > http://wishlist.pofo.de/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 5:57: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0629737B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550FF43EB2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:56:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.13]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5Duk1f098061 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:46 +0100 (CET) Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9059736D81; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8422130C01 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:45 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:45 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it X-X-Sender: fddi@dijkstra.fi.infn.it To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: memory modues for AS 500/333 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020920) (postino.fi.infn.it) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-98.5 required=5.9 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_PINE, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, anyone could suggest me a model (Kingston or something) compatible for AS 500/333 ? thank you very much Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 6:48:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C137037B406 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803E343ECF for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:48:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5Em9dN009064; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:48:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB5Em9ZG009063; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:48:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:48:09 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: sten@blinkenlights.nl, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bootable RAID Controllers Message-ID: <20021205154809.B8977@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021205095031.38939cbf.lehmann@ans-netz.de> <20021205133338.C8628@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021205134442.328299fc.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021205134442.328299fc.lehmann@ans-netz.de>; from lehmann@ans-netz.de on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:44:42PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:44:42PM +0100, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > Mylex DAC960s are the only ones DEC/CPQ ever sold for Alpha. > > DAC960 are KZPSC and KZPAC in DEC-speak. > > So i should buy a Mylex Controller (or must it be a DEC-branded?) e.g. > Mylex DAC 960PL and it will work? ;) (I think i now the answer about a > "generic" mylex 960 support ;) The DEC cards tend to have really oldish firmware, IRRC 2.73 max or so. I assume generic ones will work but I never tried. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 7:39:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777A837B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC38643E9C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 30413 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2002 15:39:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 5 Dec 2002 15:39:18 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5FcsuH044877; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 10:39:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20021204234741.D71802A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 10:39:01 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Wemm Subject: Re: link_elf: symbol osf1_wait4 undefined Cc: alex Cc: alex , Yoriaki FUJIMORI , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Andrew Gallatin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Dec-2002 Peter Wemm wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 04-Dec-2002 Andrew Gallatin wrote: >> > >> > alex writes: >> > > ahhhh. That solved the problem. >> > > What is the technical reason for having to load the osf1 module first ? >> > >> > Linux/alpha uses the same ABI as OSF/1 for a number of functions, >> > since they bootstrapped themselves from OSF/1 on alpha and never >> > bothered to go fully native. This ABI is already provided by our >> > osf1.ko module. >> > >> > The problem is that the osf1.ko module is SUPPOSED to be automatically >> > loaded as a dependancy of the linux module. I've asked the person who >> > wrote the module dependancy code for help on this, but he's moved on >> > to other things and has never answered. If somebody wants to look >> > into this, that would be great. I've never been able to figure it >> > out. >> >> The problem is here: >> >> > grep MODULE * >> linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_VERSION(linux, 1); >> linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, osf1, 1, 1, 1); >> linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvmsg, 1, 1, 1); >> linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvsem, 1, 1, 1); >> linux_sysvec.c:MODULE_DEPEND(linux, sysvshm, 1, 1, 1); >> linux_sysvec.c:DECLARE_MODULE(linuxelf, linux_elf_mod, SI_SUB_EXEC, SI_ORDER_ > ANY); >> >> All the dependencies are recorded for the non-existent linux module. >> In actuality, on Alpha there is a linuxelf module, and on i386 there >> are linuxelf and linuxaout modules. I'm trying to think about the >> best way to go about fixing this. > > No. The MODULE_VERSION/MODULE_DEPEND stuff is completely seperate to > DECLARE_MODULE. They are not in the same name space. They are just tags. > This is so that we can have tags in raw binary (no executable code) files. > >> Well, I have an untested patch at >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/linux.patch that might fix this. >> FWIW, the dependency of linux compat on the SYSV modules was broken on >> both i386 and alpha for the same reason. Use 'patch -p6' to apply this >> patch btw. > > Nope, this assumes a connection between the namespaces. Then why don't they work? With the existing tags, if you kldload linux and osf1 isn't loaded it fails instead of auto-loading osf1. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 8: 3: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDEE37B401; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:02:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f83.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ED743ECF; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bola2002000@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:02:25 -0800 Received: from 80.88.142.27 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 05 Dec 2002 16:02:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [80.88.142.27] From: "bola jide" To: GeorgiasCutest@aol.com Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 17:02:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2002 16:02:25.0846 (UTC) FILETIME=[B438D560:01C29C77] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DR,SALAM ALI BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK-ADB ANNEX OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO Dear Sir, I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department of African Development Bank (ADB). 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 11:34:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF5937B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-gw1.interbaun.com (smtp-gw1.interbaun.com [199.185.130.23]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98A5143EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:34:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DRichardson@interbaun.com) Received: (qmail 1978 invoked by uid 502); 5 Dec 2002 19:34:42 -0000 Received: from 035.209-115-208-0.interbaun.com (HELO tiny.davric.ab.ca) (209.115.208.35) by smtp-gw1.interbaun.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2002 19:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3DEF4851.3C6405D0@interbaun.com> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:36:34 -0700 From: David Richardson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (X11; I; OpenVMS V7.2-1 AlphaStation 200 4/233) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Alpha fresh install problems References: <3DE4CE61.3628B9BC@interbaun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Richardson wrote in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc without a reply: > > I am attempting to install 4.7 on a Digital AlphaStation 200 4/233. The > system crashes at the end of the first install floppy, and the system in > question has no working CD. DVA0 contains the first boot floppy, the > three attempts from the CD are 4.7 burnt copy, known good OpenVMS > install cd, and a driver CD not expected to boot. The latter two > attempts produce the same error. > > I'm expecting that the problem is either with the boot floppy, but this > seems unlikely as several different ones give the same error, or with > some system setting. Is there a minimum version of the firmware that > needs to be on the system for 4.7 to work? Is there some setting that > I've missed in reading? Where should I look? > > DKA 200 has a working OpenBSD install on it, any way to get the Free bsd > installation working fromOpenBSD? > > Dave. > > Transcript of boot sequence follow with a coouple irelavent snips: > > ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.....e5. > V6.9-4, built on Oct 12 1998 at 11:22:55 > > CPU 0 booting > > usage is boot [-file ] [-flags ] > > >>>b dva0 > > (boot dva0.0.0.0.1) > block 0 of dva0.0.0.0.1 is a valid boot block > reading 14 blocks from dva0.0.0.0.1 > bootstrap code read in > base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1c00 > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > initializing page table at 1e4000 > initializing machine state > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/ > -\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/Loading > /boot/loader > -\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/ > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 0 > boot failure > >>>sh * > auto_action BOOT > boot_dev dva0.0.0.0.1 > boot_file > boot_osflags > boot_reset ON > bootdef_dev > booted_dev dva0.0.0.0.1 > booted_file > booted_osflags > bus_probe_algorithm new > char_set 0 > console serial > control_disfd enable > control_idema enable > control_irq11 scsi > control_irq12 mouse > control_scsi_term internal > controlp on > dump_dev > enable_audit ON > ewa0_arp_tries 3 > ewa0_bootp_file > ewa0_bootp_server > ewa0_bootp_tries 3 > ewa0_def_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_def_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_def_inetfile > ewa0_def_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_def_subnetmask 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_inet_init bootp > ewa0_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_inetfile > ewa0_loop_count 3e8 > ewa0_loop_inc a > ewa0_loop_patt ffffffff > ewa0_loop_size 2e > ewa0_lp_msg_node 1 > ewa0_mode Twisted-Pair > ewa0_protocols MOP > ewa0_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 > ewa0_tftp_tries 3 > kbd_hardware_type PCXAL > language 36 > language_name English(American) > license MU > mopv3_boot OFF > os_type OpenVMS > pal VMS PALcode V5.56-2, OSF PALcode X1.46-2 > pci_parity off > pka0_disconnect 1 > pka0_fast 1 > pka0_host_id 7 > quick_start OFF > scsi_poll ON > srm2dev > sys_serial_num > tga_sync_green 2 > timer_tps 1 > tt_allow_login 1 > tty_dev 0 > version V6.9-4 Oct 12 1998 11:22:55 > > >>>b dka500 > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > >>> > > >>>b dka500 > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > >>> > > >>>b dka500 > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > > >>> > > -- > Microsoft: The "Would you like fries with that" of the IT profession. > > David Richardson > DRichardson@interbaun.com Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when I was searching the archives. -- Microsoft: The "Would you like fries with that" of the IT profession. David Richardson DRichardson@interbaun.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 11:57:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0E37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7503943E9C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12762; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB5JuZk94198; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15855.44915.670272.262170@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:56:35 -0500 (EST) To: David Richardson Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha fresh install problems In-Reply-To: <3DEF4851.3C6405D0@interbaun.com> References: <3DE4CE61.3628B9BC@interbaun.com> <3DEF4851.3C6405D0@interbaun.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Richardson writes: > > Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when > I was searching the archives. Sounds newer versions of the boot loader are broken on old hardware like yours. I'd try minimally installing an older release (4.5, 4.6) and see if that works. If so, then do a binary upgrade to 4.7, but save your working 4.5 or 4.6 bootloader and copy it back into place before the installer reboots the system. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 11:59:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6FB37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from thea.blinkenlights.nl (thea.blinkenlights.nl [62.58.162.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC79A43E9C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sten@blinkenlights.nl) Received: by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix, from userid 101) id 3500939305; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thea.blinkenlights.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D515D581; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:59:37 +0100 (CET) From: Sten To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory modues for AS 500/333 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > hi, > anyone could suggest me a model (Kingston or something) compatible for > AS 500/333 ? > thank you very much Grin, I just had the same trouble, Nobody seems to have the originals and compatible stuff is on backorder everywhere. I just bought 512mb from some guy on ebay, he has 512mb more for a reasonable price. My stuff is still shipping, but the seller seems to be ok. Please mail me privately if you cant find the auction yourself. -- Sten Spans "What does one do with ones money, when there is no more empty rackspace ?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 13: 3: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE76F37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C059443EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:03:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5L2xdN010699; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:03:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB5L2xBU010698; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:02:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:02:59 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: David Richardson , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha fresh install problems Message-ID: <20021205220258.B10600@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3DE4CE61.3628B9BC@interbaun.com> <3DEF4851.3C6405D0@interbaun.com> <15855.44915.670272.262170@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15855.44915.670272.262170@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:56:35PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David Richardson writes: > > > > > Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when > > I was searching the archives. > > Sounds newer versions of the boot loader are broken on old hardware > like yours. I'm pretty sure (99%) that I tested 4.7 boot from CD on the AS200/233 at work. That worked fine. I did not test floppy booting at all (ENOTIME) > I'd try minimally installing an older release (4.5, 4.6) and see if > that works. If so, then do a binary upgrade to 4.7, but save your > working 4.5 or 4.6 bootloader and copy it back into place before the > installer reboots the system. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 14:36:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F57A37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041ED43EBE for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:36:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317993BF1AC for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:36:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gB5MaA324423 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:36:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 15:38:53 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: Subject: end of line for alpha... Message-ID: <20021205153814.B35513-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hp is EOL'ing the alpha... sigh http://news.com.com/2100-1001-976211.html Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 14:45:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D2337B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889FD43E9C for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 14:45:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB5MjFdN011347; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:45:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB5MjFrS011346; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:45:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 23:45:15 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Fred Clift Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of line for alpha... Message-ID: <20021205234515.A11328@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021205153814.B35513-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021205153814.B35513-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net>; from fclift@verio.net on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:38:53PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:38:53PM -0700, Fred Clift wrote: It is sad, but it isn't news.. W/ > Hp is EOL'ing the alpha... sigh > > http://news.com.com/2100-1001-976211.html > > > Fred > > -- > Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute > force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 17:50:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5502F37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D0F43EB2 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:50:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB61o8mf065423; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:50:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB61o8w2065420; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:50:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:50:07 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Andrew Gallatin , David Richardson , Subject: Re: Alpha fresh install problems In-Reply-To: <20021205220258.B10600@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20021205204314.F64709-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > David Richardson writes: > > > > > > > > Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when > > > I was searching the archives. > > > > Sounds newer versions of the boot loader are broken on old hardware > > like yours. > > I'm pretty sure (99%) that I tested 4.7 boot from CD on the AS200/233 at > work. That worked fine. I did not test floppy booting at all (ENOTIME) The iso is fine, I installed it this morning. And it is happily running X while i send this. HEY!! and sound works, when did you folks fix that? Not that it matters but on your hardware.html, the pcm line shows irq 9. Using this effectively locks up my box. Pci vid is sitting on 9. for the record 10 will work too ;) > > > I'd try minimally installing an older release (4.5, 4.6) and see if > > that works. If so, then do a binary upgrade to 4.7, but save your > > working 4.5 or 4.6 bootloader and copy it back into place before the > > installer reboots the system. > > > > Drew > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, the Netherlands > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > Paul Halliday. http://dp.penix.org ------------------- "And so your god bungled his work deliberately, in order to tempt or test his creature - did he then not know, did he then not doubt what the result would be? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 17:53:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7180337B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:53:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B64DC43ED8 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB61rTmf065453; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:53:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB61rTqc065450; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:53:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: David Richardson Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha fresh install problems In-Reply-To: <3DEF4851.3C6405D0@interbaun.com> Message-ID: <20021205205038.S64709-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At a glance, your firmware is old: V7.09, built on Mar 18 1999 at 13:41:11 seems to work fine for me. Any specific questions, just ask. > David Richardson wrote in comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc without a reply: > > > > > > I am attempting to install 4.7 on a Digital AlphaStation 200 4/233. The > > system crashes at the end of the first install floppy, and the system in > > question has no working CD. DVA0 contains the first boot floppy, the > > three attempts from the CD are 4.7 burnt copy, known good OpenVMS > > install cd, and a driver CD not expected to boot. The latter two > > attempts produce the same error. > > > > I'm expecting that the problem is either with the boot floppy, but this > > seems unlikely as several different ones give the same error, or with > > some system setting. Is there a minimum version of the firmware that > > needs to be on the system for 4.7 to work? Is there some setting that > > I've missed in reading? Where should I look? > > > > Dave. > > > > Transcript of boot sequence follow with a coouple irelavent snips: > > > > ef.df.ee.ed.ec.f4.eb.ea.e9.e8.e7.e6.....e5. > > V6.9-4, built on Oct 12 1998 at 11:22:55 > > > > CPU 0 booting > > > > usage is boot [-file ] [-flags ] > > > > >>>b dva0 > > > > (boot dva0.0.0.0.1) > > block 0 of dva0.0.0.0.1 is a valid boot block > > reading 14 blocks from dva0.0.0.0.1 > > bootstrap code read in > > base = 1f2000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1c00 > > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > > initializing page table at 1e4000 > > initializing machine state > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/ > > -\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/Loading > > /boot/loader > > -\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/ > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 2 > > kernel stack not valid halt > > PC = 0 > > boot failure > > >>>sh * > > auto_action BOOT > > boot_dev dva0.0.0.0.1 > > boot_file > > boot_osflags > > boot_reset ON > > bootdef_dev > > booted_dev dva0.0.0.0.1 > > booted_file > > booted_osflags > > bus_probe_algorithm new > > char_set 0 > > console serial > > control_disfd enable > > control_idema enable > > control_irq11 scsi > > control_irq12 mouse > > control_scsi_term internal > > controlp on > > dump_dev > > enable_audit ON > > ewa0_arp_tries 3 > > ewa0_bootp_file > > ewa0_bootp_server > > ewa0_bootp_tries 3 > > ewa0_def_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_def_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_def_inetfile > > ewa0_def_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_def_subnetmask 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_ginetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_inet_init bootp > > ewa0_inetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_inetfile > > ewa0_loop_count 3e8 > > ewa0_loop_inc a > > ewa0_loop_patt ffffffff > > ewa0_loop_size 2e > > ewa0_lp_msg_node 1 > > ewa0_mode Twisted-Pair > > ewa0_protocols MOP > > ewa0_sinetaddr 0.0.0.0 > > ewa0_tftp_tries 3 > > kbd_hardware_type PCXAL > > language 36 > > language_name English(American) > > license MU > > mopv3_boot OFF > > os_type OpenVMS > > pal VMS PALcode V5.56-2, OSF PALcode X1.46-2 > > pci_parity off > > pka0_disconnect 1 > > pka0_fast 1 > > pka0_host_id 7 > > quick_start OFF > > scsi_poll ON > > srm2dev > > sys_serial_num > > tga_sync_green 2 > > timer_tps 1 > > tt_allow_login 1 > > tty_dev 0 > > version V6.9-4 Oct 12 1998 11:22:55 > > > > >>>b dka500 > > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > > >>> > > > > >>>b dka500 > > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > > >>> > > > > >>>b dka500 > > (boot dka500.5.0.6.0) > > failed to open dka500.5.0.6.0 > > > > >>> > > > > -- > > Microsoft: The "Would you like fries with that" of the IT profession. > > > > David Richardson > > DRichardson@interbaun.com > > Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when > I was searching the archives. > > -- > Microsoft: The "Would you like fries with that" of the IT profession. > > David Richardson > DRichardson@interbaun.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 18:44: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259EA37B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9F543ECD for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 18:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.150]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id gB62g6e26034 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:12:06 +1030 (CST) Received: from muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (unverified) by dsto-ms2.dsto.defence.gov.au (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:13:47 +1030 Received: from salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au (salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.9]) by muttley.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.LMD.990513) with ESMTP id NAA04169 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:06:53 +1030 (CST) Received: from squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au ([131.185.75.211]) by salex001.dsto.defence.gov.au with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id XR5ZL4TC; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:06:57 +1030 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:06:54 +1030 (CST) From: "Wilkinson,Alex" X-X-Sender: wilkinsa@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au Reply-To: Alex.Wilkinson@dsto.defence.gov.au To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 5.0-DP2-disc2.iso Message-ID: <20021206130519.Y11007-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy all, What is the diff between: *5.0-DP2-disc2.iso *5.0-DP2-mini.iso *5.0-DP1-install.iso ( is there going to be a 5.0-DP2-install.iso ) Thanks - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 5 22:26: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E127737B401 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tepkom.ru (mail.tepkom.ru [195.9.10.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9225143EA9 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2002 22:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wart@mojo.tepkom.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tepkom.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id B7B0D971EB for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:26:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mojo.tepkom.ru (mojo.tepkom.ru [195.9.10.30]) by mail.tepkom.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79CD971E6 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:26:10 +0300 (MSK) Received: from wart by mojo.tepkom.ru with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18KBvS-0001bu-00 for ; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 09:25:26 +0300 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:25:25 +0300 From: Wartan Hachaturow To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5.0-DP2-disc2.iso Message-ID: <20021206062525.GA6155@mojo.tepkom.ru> References: <20021206130519.Y11007-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021206130519.Y11007-100000@squirm.dsto.defence.gov.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 01:06:54PM +1030, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > What is the diff between: > > *5.0-DP2-disc2.iso > *5.0-DP2-mini.iso > *5.0-DP1-install.iso ( is there going to be a 5.0-DP2-install.iso ) It is explained in the README in the same ftp directory. disc2 is a live filesystem, mini is a mini installation disk (not including any packages, that is). install is a full-blown installation CD of a DP1, including various pre-built packages (XFree, for example). And the question about DP2-install.iso should be posed to jhb ;) -- Regards, Wartan. "Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 1:10:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD41037B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FCC43EB2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB69A3x3034630 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB69A3ls034629; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:10:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 01:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200212060910.gB69A3ls034629@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: "Sergey Amelyuschenko" Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Reply-To: "Sergey Amelyuschenko" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/45947; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Sergey Amelyuschenko" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha/45947: init does not invoke getty Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:04:27 +0300 Hi Drew! > What happens if you do this (as root) after editing /etc/ttys > to enable a new getty: (eg, edit ttys, disable ttyv6, save, kill -HUP 1, > edit ttys, enable ttyv6, then run the following): > > # ktrace -di -p 1 ; kill -HUP 1 ; sleep 0.5 ; ktrace -C > # kdump | less > > Do you see it reading /etc/ttys? Should look like this (trace taken on > an x86, but it should be identical on an alpha) > > 1 init PSIG SIGHUP caught handler=0x8049708 mask=0x9e7c9054 > code=0xffffffff > 1 init RET wait4 -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call > 1 init CALL sigreturn(0xbfbffb6c) > 1 init RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN > > 1 init CALL open(0x808318b,0,0x1b6) > 1 init NAMI "/etc/ttys" > 1 init RET open 0 > <...> > should see a fork and a getty trying to start.. > > It would be interesting to see if it does not find the file, or > if it can't open the tty, or if it just ignores HUP, or what. > That could help narrow down the problem quite a bit. It is much worse - it does not even try to open /etc/ttys :-( I run this sequence "ktrace -di -p 1 ; kill -HUP 1 ; sleep 0.5 ; ktrace -C" after editing /etc/ttys on both alpha and i386. Here is the result: alpha# kdump | grep init 1 init PSIG SIGHUP caught handler=0x120002780 mask=0x9e7c9054 code=0xffffffff 1 init RET wait4 -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call 1 init CALL sigreturn(0x11ffb8c8) 1 init RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN 1 init CALL wait4(0xffffffffffffffff,0x11ffbc70,0x2,0) i386# kdump | grep init 1 init PSIG SIGHUP caught handler=0x8049728 mask=0x9e7c9054 code=0xffffffff 1 init RET wait4 -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call 1 init CALL sigreturn(0xbfbffb70) 1 init RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN 1 init CALL open(0x8083d8b,0,0x1b6) 1 init NAMI "/etc/ttys" 1 init RET open 0 1 init CALL fstat(0,0xbfbffbf0) 1 init RET fstat 0 1 init CALL read(0,0x80b2000,0x4000) 1 init GIO fd 0 read 7470 bytes # type The initial terminal type for this port. For hardwired # status Must be on or off. If on, init will run the getty program on # If console is marked "insecure", then init will ask for the root pas\ 1 init RET read 7470/0x1d2e 1 init CALL open(0x80b10f0,0x4,0) 1 init NAMI "/dev/ttyv6" 1 init RET open 2 1 init CALL close(0x2) 1 init RET close 0 1 init CALL gettimeofday(0xbfbff048,0) 1 init RET gettimeofday 0 1 init CALL sendto(0x1,0xbfbff4e0,0x48,0,0,0) 1 init GIO fd 1 wrote 72 bytes Just for the sake of other bugbusters there are some facts: Oddly enough, I was able to get console prompt by logging in through ssh and running /usr/libexec/getty Pc /dev/ttyv0 & i.e. it works when invoked by hand, but does not get invoked automatically by /sbin/init. I rebiult my system on 11/15/02 and 12/02/02 -stable, but that didn't change anything. I track -stable on my alpha starting from 4.2-RELEASE and never seen anything like that. This is dmesg: Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #7: Tue Dec 3 15:49:15 IRKT 2002 ST6600 AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV6 (21264) major=8 minor=4 extensions=0x303 OSF PAL rev: 0x2004500020157 real memory = 2144681984 (2094416K bytes) avail memory = 2084904960 (2036040K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000644000. md0: Malloc disk pcib0: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 5.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 pci0: at 5.1 irq 238 pci0: at 5.2 irq 239 pci0: at 5.3 irq 234 pcib2: at device 7.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 sym0: <875> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x2060000-0x2060fff,0x2062000-0x20620ff irq 31 at device 0.0 on pci2 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 31 sym1: <875> port 0x10100-0x101ff mem 0x2061000-0x2061fff,0x2062100-0x20621ff irq 30 at device 1.0 on pci2 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 30 pci2: (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0009) at 2.0 irq 29 pci0: at 8.0 irq 27 isp0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x2151000-0 x2151fff irq 23 at device 9.0 on pci0 isp0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 23 pcib1: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci1: on pcib1 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x80010000-0x8001007f mem 0x8106000 0-0x8106007f irq 47 at device 7.0 on pci1 xl0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 47 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:50:04:ea:7a:64 miibus0: on xl0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto gx0: mem 0x81040000-0x8104ffff,0x81020000-0 x8103ffff irq 43 at device 8.0 on pci1 gx0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 43 gx0: Ethernet address: 00:02:a5:40:d7:56 e1000phy0: on miibus1 e1000phy0: 1000baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX, 10baseTX-FDX, 10baseTX, au to fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499881513 Hz DUMMYNET initialized (011031) IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default Waiting 10 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. da1 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da2 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8678MB (17773524 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da3 at isp0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da4 at isp0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da4: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da4: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da4: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da5 at isp0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 da5: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da5: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da5: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da6 at isp0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da6: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da6: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da6: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da7 at isp0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da7: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da7: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da7: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da8 at isp0 bus 0 target 7 lun 0 da8: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da8: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da8: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da9 at isp0 bus 0 target 9 lun 0 da9: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da9: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da9: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da10 at isp0 bus 0 target 10 lun 0 da10: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da10: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da10: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da11 at isp0 bus 0 target 11 lun 0 da11: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da11: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da11: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da12 at isp0 bus 0 target 12 lun 0 da12: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da12: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da12: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da13 at isp0 bus 0 target 13 lun 0 da13: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da13: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da13: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da14 at isp0 bus 0 target 14 lun 0 da14: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da14: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da14: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) da15 at isp0 bus 0 target 15 lun 0 da15: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da15: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da15: 34720MB (71106560 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 4426C) cd0 at sym0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 16) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a kernel config: machine alpha cpu EV5 ident ALPHA maxusers 512 options DEC_ST6600 # XP1000, DP264, DS20, DS10, family options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root device options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=10000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options KTRACE #ktrace(1) syscall trace support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extentions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies device isa device pci device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device isp # Qlogic family device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? device mcclock0 at isa? port 0x70 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 flags 0x50 device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device device miibus # MII bus support device gx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device bpf 6 #Berkeley packet filter options IPFIREWALL # Firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # Print information about dropped packets options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD # Enable transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 # Limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT # Allow everything by default options IPDIVERT # divert sockets (NAT support) options DUMMYNET # bandwidth and latency ipfw support options HZ=1000 # ipfw delay granularity time will be 1 ms options ACCEPT_FILTER_HTTP # Apache will work faster with these setting options ACCEPT_FILTER_DATA options NMBCLUSTERS=10000 # Increase number of network buffers pseudo-device vn 4 # Enable support for mounting .iso Sergey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 5:11: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5201437B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D1E43ED4 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:11:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.237] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18KIFu-0001Zu-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:10:58 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 886DE3BD for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:10:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from web.de (neslonek.bio.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.207.147]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 914017 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:10:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3DF0A1DC.21D99203@web.de> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:10:52 +0100 From: Jan Lentfer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Memory Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I bought two 256MB chips for my PWS 500. When I plug them in with no other memory chips on board, the kernel boots and goes through the booting till "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Then suddenly it jumps back to SRM and reports: halted CPU0 halt code = 5 HAL instruction executed PC = fffffc0000668448 boot failure If I put in the new chips with some of my older *known to work* chips the booting just hangs at "Waiting 15 seconds..." forever. Now I don't know if the chips are bad (got them from ebay) or they just don't work in my system. The chips are from Kingston: KVR100X72C2L/256 256MB Low Profile PC100 ECC DIMM CL2 Any ideas? TIA, Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 5:25:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA637B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CB043EB2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:25:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB6DOwmf066639; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:24:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB6DOvpD066636; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:24:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:24:57 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory Problems In-Reply-To: <3DF0A1DC.21D99203@web.de> Message-ID: <20021206082339.S66630-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Hi all, > > I bought two 256MB chips for my PWS 500. When I plug them in with no > other memory chips on board, the kernel boots and goes through the > booting till "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Then > suddenly it jumps back to SRM and reports: does the PWS 500 have diagnostic leds? These will quickly report which banks are failing. Have you tried memtest from the console? > > halted CPU0 > halt code = 5 > HAL instruction executed > PC = fffffc0000668448 > boot failure > > > If I put in the new chips with some of my older *known to work* chips > the booting just hangs at "Waiting 15 seconds..." forever. > > Now I don't know if the chips are bad (got them from ebay) or they just > don't work in my system. The chips are from Kingston: > KVR100X72C2L/256 256MB Low Profile PC100 ECC DIMM CL2 > > Any ideas? > > TIA, > > Jan > > > -- > Jan Lentfer > System Administrator > Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany > Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > Paul Halliday. http://dp.penix.org ------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 5:35:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1113737B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815543EA9 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.237] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18KIdQ-0006dF-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:35:16 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id ED1943BD; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:35:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from web.de (neslonek.bio.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.207.147]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 0D6267; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:35:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3DF0A78E.B260C0DD@web.de> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:35:10 +0100 From: Jan Lentfer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.7-RELEASE-p1 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Halliday Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory Problems References: <20021206082339.S66630-100000@dove.penix.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Halliday wrote: > On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jan Lentfer wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I bought two 256MB chips for my PWS 500. When I plug them in with no > > other memory chips on board, the kernel boots and goes through the > > booting till "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Then > > suddenly it jumps back to SRM and reports: > does the PWS 500 have diagnostic leds? These will quickly report which > banks are failing. Have you tried memtest from the console? It does have 8 leds left to the memory banks but I don't know how to read them. Jan -- Jan Lentfer System Administrator Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 5:45:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0A37B406 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from dove.penix.org (dove.penix.org [216.144.7.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465E443EC2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:45:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from dove.penix.org (dp@localhost.nls.net [127.0.0.1]) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB6DjZmf066687; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:45:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by dove.penix.org (8.12.6/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id gB6DjZ62066684; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:45:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dp@dove.penix.org) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:45:35 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Halliday To: Jan Lentfer Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory Problems In-Reply-To: <3DF0A78E.B260C0DD@web.de> Message-ID: <20021206083651.C66664-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Paul Halliday wrote: > > > On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jan Lentfer wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I bought two 256MB chips for my PWS 500. When I plug them in with no > > > other memory chips on board, the kernel boots and goes through the > > > booting till "Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle". Then > > > suddenly it jumps back to SRM and reports: > > does the PWS 500 have diagnostic leds? These will quickly report which > > banks are failing. Have you tried memtest from the console? > > It does have 8 leds left to the memory banks but I don't know how to read them. > > Jan hmm.. if they are the same as the alpha station 200 then viewing from the rear: (x) off (o) on oooo oxox Memory test 1 failure oooo oxxo Memory test 2 failure oooo oxxx Memory test 3 failure oooo xooo Memory test 4 failure .... ooxo ooox Memory test failed .... if all is well.. oooo ooxx Console initialized (ARC) ooox xoxo Console initialized (SRM) hope this helps. > > -- > Jan Lentfer > System Administrator > Molecular Cell Biology / AG Holstein, Darmstadt University of Technology, Schnittspahnstr. 10, 64287 Darmstadt, Germany > Tel: +49 6151 16 5563 / Tel private: +49 6155 899393 / mobile: +49 163 4712037 > > > Paul Halliday. http://dp.penix.org ------------------- "And so your god bungled his work deliberately, in order to tempt or test his creature - did he then not know, did he then not doubt what the result would be?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 5:49: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C8637B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout09.sul.t-online.com (mailout09.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA7C43E4A for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 05:48:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lehmann@ans-netz.de) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout09.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18KIqd-0002rv-03; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 14:48:55 +0100 Received: from dill.salatschuessel.net (520085340291-0001@[80.132.178.218]) by fmrl07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18KIqO-0FEq2qC; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:48:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 345 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 13:48:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kartoffel.salatschuessel.net) (10.0.0.51) by dill.salatschuessel.net with SMTP; 6 Dec 2002 13:48:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:48:39 +0100 From: Oliver Lehmann To: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC133 memory in an 164SX? Message-Id: <20021206144839.056da19e.lehmann@ans-netz.de> In-Reply-To: References: <3DE53296.6FE3B592@mindspring.com> <20021128110015.GJ35855@cicely8.cicely.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6cvs15 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-unknown-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520085340291-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber wrote: > I ordered another set of DIMMs, effectively from the same source, > but PC100 and coincidentally these turned out to be double-sided. > Success! Today i put 2 no-name 256 MB Memory modules in. Success :) Also double sided... (the 2x128 memory modules which are plugged in too, are one-sided. Are there 512 MB four-sided modules? :) Have some 1GB 4-side (2 double-sided plates connected together) modules.. they look really funny :) and if there are 512MB 4-side modules, maybe you have then "2048 MBytes of system memory" because the chip size should be the same like on 256MB double-sided and 128 MB one sided modules. >>>show mem 768 MBytes of system memory Bank # Size Base Addr ------ ---------- --------- 0 512 MB 000000000 1 256 MB 020000000 Total Bad Pages = 0 Total Good Memory = 768 MBytes I tested a bit wit allocating 600mb of ram and filled it with rand() in C. Seems to be, that the RAM is still cached. No performance problems (First i thought, only 512 MB are cachable -> performance went down when you have more ram.. but it's still performant :) have to get 2 more 256 modules now :) Greetings, Oliver -- Oliver Lehmann, lehmann@ans-netz.de, http://www.pofo.de/ http://wishlist.pofo.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 6: 9: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150B237B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 06:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B5C43EBE for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 06:08:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.237] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18KJ9w-0004ED-00; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:08:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id 748103E5; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:08:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5, from userid 80) id 7D2DD3BD; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:08:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.83.244.130 ( [130.83.244.130]) as user jan@localhost by www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1039183724.3df0af6cec2b7@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:08:44 +0100 From: Jan Lentfer To: Paul Halliday Cc: "" Subject: Re: Memory Problems References: <20021206083651.C66664-100000@dove.penix.org> In-Reply-To: <20021206083651.C66664-100000@dove.penix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6 X-Originating-IP: 130.83.244.130 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > if they are the same as the alpha station 200 then viewing from the rear: > (x) off (o) on > > oooo oxox Memory test 1 failure > oooo oxxo Memory test 2 failure > oooo oxxx Memory test 3 failure > oooo xooo Memory test 4 failure > .... > ooxo ooox Memory test failed > .... > if all is well.. > > oooo ooxx Console initialized (ARC) > ooox xoxo Console initialized (SRM) > > hope this helps. Actually there are 2 rows of 4 leds each. When the system runs fine they are: (o=ON) ooox xoxx What puzzles me is that the light's don't change when I put in the new chips and the system fails. I started memtest now, all the console shows now - how long does that take for 512MB? The console sits there for a few minutes now. Jan ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 7:40:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1537137B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1CA43EC5 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jan.Lentfer@web.de) Received: from [213.157.11.237] (helo=floundjan.homeip.net) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18KKac-0003fP-00 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:40:30 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.lan [127.0.0.1]) by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5) with ESMTP id B54073BD; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:40:28 +0100 (CET) Received: by floundjan.homeip.net (Postfix on FreeBSD 4.5, from userid 80) id CE1FBE9; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:40:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from 130.83.244.130 ( [130.83.244.130]) as user jan@localhost by www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net with HTTP; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:40:22 +0100 Message-ID: <1039189222.3df0c4e62256c@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 16:40:22 +0100 From: Jan Lentfer To: Jan Lentfer Cc: "" Subject: Re: Memory Problems References: <20021206083651.C66664-100000@dove.penix.org> <1039183724.3df0af6cec2b7@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <1039183724.3df0af6cec2b7@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 / FreeBSD-4.6 X-Originating-IP: 130.83.244.130 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I investigated a little more because I can't believe this is a memory/hw problem (the kernel does boot!). I booted a 4.6 Installation CD - same error when Initializing SCSI disks. So I put in a Debian-3.0 Install CD -> all SCSI disks get initialised and I get to a shell. dmesg on Dbian shows all the hardware and 512MB of RAM. So to me this looks more like a FreeBSD/Kernel problem than a hardware problem. Any ideas? Jan ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 7:46:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4693837B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D04C43EC2 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 07:46:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25806; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.9.1) id gB6Fjgs95566; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:45:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15856.50726.647449.10642@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:45:42 -0500 (EST) To: Jan Lentfer Cc: Subject: Re: Memory Problems In-Reply-To: <1039189222.3df0c4e62256c@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> References: <20021206083651.C66664-100000@dove.penix.org> <1039183724.3df0af6cec2b7@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> <1039189222.3df0c4e62256c@www-mail.floundjan.homeip.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Lentfer writes: > I investigated a little more because I can't believe this is a memory/hw problem > (the kernel does boot!). I booted a 4.6 Installation CD - same error when > Initializing SCSI disks. > So I put in a Debian-3.0 Install CD -> all SCSI disks get initialised and I get > to a shell. dmesg on Dbian shows all the hardware and 512MB of RAM. > So to me this looks more like a FreeBSD/Kernel problem than a hardware problem. > > Any ideas? Maybe linux puts its memory in a different place and you'll get screwed later rather than sooner. We have no problems with 1GB or less of *good* memory on a miata. Sorry. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 8: 0:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F6637B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A8043EA9 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 08:00:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB6G0OuT025574 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.1.10]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB6G0NfQ006529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB6G0NgV003997; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB6G0MVl003996; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:00:22 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Oliver Lehmann Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC133 memory in an 164SX? Message-ID: <20021206160022.GM1041@cicely8.cicely.de> Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de References: <3DE53296.6FE3B592@mindspring.com> <20021128110015.GJ35855@cicely8.cicely.de> <20021206144839.056da19e.lehmann@ans-netz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021206144839.056da19e.lehmann@ans-netz.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:48:39PM +0100, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > I tested a bit wit allocating 600mb of ram and filled it with rand() in C. > Seems to be, that the RAM is still cached. No performance problems (First > i thought, only 512 MB are cachable -> performance went down when you have > more ram.. but it's still performant :) Don't worry about caching - the chipset is designed to do 8G RAM. It's just that your board doesn't have the sockets to get that far... -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 9:38:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F198437B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:38:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B8443ECF for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 29779 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2002 17:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 6 Dec 2002 17:38:14 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB6Hc9uH048728; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:38:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20021206062525.GA6155@mojo.tepkom.ru> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 12:38:15 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: Wartan Hachaturow Subject: Re: 5.0-DP2-disc2.iso Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Dec-2002 Wartan Hachaturow wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 01:06:54PM +1030, Wilkinson,Alex wrote: > >> What is the diff between: >> >> *5.0-DP2-disc2.iso >> *5.0-DP2-mini.iso >> *5.0-DP1-install.iso ( is there going to be a 5.0-DP2-install.iso ) > > It is explained in the README in the same ftp directory. > disc2 is a live filesystem, mini is a mini installation disk > (not including any packages, that is). > install is a full-blown installation CD of a DP1, including > various pre-built packages (XFree, for example). > And the question about DP2-install.iso should be posed to jhb ;) Well, I'm fairly swamped right now, so I think the possibilities of a 5.0-DP2-install.iso are pretty slim unless someone else steps up and does it. :-/ -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 19:19:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE5037B401 for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDAE43E4A for ; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:19:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp970.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.147.201]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB73JPp5064155 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:49:26 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <017301c29d40$f984e860$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: Subject: Matox Inc mga drivers on Alpha [XFree86] Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:33:08 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Has anyone successfully built /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server with Matrox's mga drivers ? eg >cd /usr/ports/x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server > sudo make -DWITH_MATROX_GXX_DRIVER fetch Password: DRI only built on i386 > Does this mean it can't be done ? The card has 1 HD-15 port and 1 DVI port. Do the mga drivers that come XFree86 work for DVI ports? I have only been able to a primary display working ;( - aW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 19:25:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A0B37B401; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net [203.16.214.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3A243E9C; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 19:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lex@adelaide.on.net) Received: from pepe (ppp970.adelaide.on.net.au [150.101.147.201]) by smtp0.adl1.internode.on.net (8.12.4/8.12.4) with SMTP id gB73Pdp5068784; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 13:55:39 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <019c01c29d41$d9511540$0800000a@pepe> Reply-To: "alex" From: "alex" To: "John Baldwin" , "Wartan Hachaturow" Cc: References: Subject: Re: 5.0-DP2-disc2.iso Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:39:23 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll do it! But I have to learn how to. Pointers ? Doco ? - aW > Well, I'm fairly swamped right now, so I think the possibilities of > a 5.0-DP2-install.iso are pretty slim unless someone else steps up > and does it. :-/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 6 23: 0:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143B137B401; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-169-104-228.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.169.104.228]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA57743E4A; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5198766BE3; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0397E1376; Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:00:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:00:10 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: current@FreeBSD.org, alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: panic: mutex Giant not owned at /local0/src-client/sys/vm/vm_kern.c:312 Message-ID: <20021207070010.GA81321@rot13.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I just got this on one of the alpha package build machines Kris panic: mutex Giant not owned at /local0/src-client/sys/vm/vm_kern.c:312 db_print_backtrace() at db_print_backtrace+0x18 panic() at panic+0x104 _mtx_assert() at _mtx_assert+0xb4 kmem_malloc() at kmem_malloc+0x50 page_alloc() at page_alloc+0x3c uma_large_malloc() at uma_large_malloc+0x58 malloc() at malloc+0x10c fdalloc() at fdalloc+0x1b0 do_dup() at do_dup+0x1a4 dup2() at dup2+0x24 syscall() at syscall+0x338 XentSys() at XentSys+0x64 --- syscall (90) --- --- user mode --- panic Stopped at Debugger+0x34: zapnot v0,#0xf,v0 d --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE98Zx6Wry0BWjoQKURAhSZAJ4/kt0PaQkv1P0SIHxz0+1T7KjseQCgvFfD yXpDlGnQbACrL3RH46zqz6Y= =t7A0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 7 2:55:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCC737B401 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4438543EB2 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 02:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gB7AtddN026649; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:55:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gB7Atc54026648; Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:55:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 11:55:38 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Paul Halliday Cc: Andrew Gallatin , David Richardson , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha fresh install problems Message-ID: <20021207115538.A26614@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20021205220258.B10600@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20021205204314.F64709-100000@dove.penix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20021205204314.F64709-100000@dove.penix.org>; from dp@dove.penix.org on Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:50:07PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:50:07PM -0500, Paul Halliday wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:56:35PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > > David Richardson writes: > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone here answer the questions I had? I didn't find anything when > > > > I was searching the archives. > > > > > > Sounds newer versions of the boot loader are broken on old hardware > > > like yours. > > > > I'm pretty sure (99%) that I tested 4.7 boot from CD on the AS200/233 at > > work. That worked fine. I did not test floppy booting at all (ENOTIME) > > The iso is fine, I installed it this morning. And it is happily running X > while i send this. HEY!! and sound works, when did you folks fix that? > > Not that it matters but on your hardware.html, the pcm line shows irq 9. > Using this effectively locks up my box. Pci vid is sitting on 9. for the > record 10 will work too ;) I have changed it into 10. 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