From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 2:48:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com (web13004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E78A937B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:48:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020307104852.56754.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [147.83.130.105] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 02:48:52 PST Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:48:52 -0800 (PST) From: Russo Roberto Subject: (FreeBSD TCP) vs (Linux TCP) To: freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am working to evaluate performance of throughput between two PC connected between a Fore-ATM card adapter to a network: the netwotk is composed of a PVC of 4Mbps between three routers and I am just looking to use differente queuing discipline like FIFO-PQ-WFQ. I have configured the two PC with the same Operating Systems: a Linux (Red-Hat) and a FreeBSD v4.3 (Kame Patch) and I am using NETPERF to make throughput test. Making the first tests I note a difference beetwen using the two FreeBSD or the two LINUX: [1] for example when using FreeBSD-FIFO and make a default TCP_STREAM Netperf with the deafult values of SendSocketSize and ReceiverSocketSize (16.000) the value of througput is lower (<2Mbps) than the 3.5Mpbs that I have configured in the PVC; however making the same test with the values of SendSocketSize and ReceiverSocketSize of 128000 the test is good and I have the value of 3.45Mbps using Linux-FIFO and make a default TCP_STREAM with the deafult values of SendSocketSize and ReceiverSocketSize (16.000) the value of througput is of 3.5Mpbs. [2] using other queuing discipline I have always to change in FreeBSD the values of SendSocketSize and ReceiverSocketSize to have values that seems the real condition of the network; using Linux the values is always correct without changing the values of the Sockets. - anybody can help me to resolve this problem ? Is the TCP/IP stacks of the two systems very differents ? What is different ? Why the Linux seems have the best performances ? - Where I can find some documents that describe the TCP stacks of the two systems ? really Thanks...!!!!! Roberto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 7:18: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu [134.129.125.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C9137B492 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g27FFDu63200; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:13 -0600 (CST) From: mark tinguely Message-Id: <200203071515.g27FFDu63200@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> To: atm_roberto@yahoo.com, freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (FreeBSD TCP) vs (Linux TCP) Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org on Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:48:52 -0800 (PST), Russo Roberto said: > I am working to evaluate performance of > throughput between two PC connected between > a Fore-ATM card adapter to a network: > the netwotk is composed of a PVC of 4Mbps between > three routers and I am just looking to use > differente queuing discipline like FIFO-PQ-WFQ. > > I have configured the two PC with the same Operating > Systems: a Linux (Red-Hat) and a FreeBSD v4.3 (Kame > Patch) and I am using NETPERF to make throughput > test. I would suggest that you run FreeBSD 4.5. There was a long-hidden socket bug that under certain situation caused the socket mechanism to go idle for a lengthy period of time and this caused performance issues. This socket problem was fixed in the FreeBSD 4.5 release. You can read all about the problem in the freebsd-hackers mailing list under the topic of network or NFS performance bug in the early December 2001 time frame.. I cannot guarrentee that this is the very same thing that you are seeing, but without any other detail, it sounds simular. --mark tinguely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 7:59:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from savitri.newnet.co.uk (savitri.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCB237B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from newnet.co.uk (ben.cams.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.219]) by savitri.newnet.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27Fx4h17277; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:59:04 GMT (envelope-from ben@newnet.co.uk) Message-ID: <3C878EB5.9DABEB60@newnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 16:00:53 +0000 From: Ben Wilkinson Organization: Newnet plc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harti Brandt Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes References: <20010712164530.22d2831f.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20010712182327.7f857f77.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having these cards run SDH! Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info on how I go about this? Ben "Christophe Prévotaux" wrote: > > oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this work > however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my needs > > I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 cards > but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) > Harti Brandt wrote: > > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > > > > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in > > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able to > > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one would > > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure based on > > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists on > > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM over > > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of course I > > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for > > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric cards > > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. > > > > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register > > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy too: > > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a command > > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: > > > > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | > > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > > > > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. > > > > harti > > -- > > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org > > > > > > -- > =================================================================== > Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > 51689 Reims Cedex 2 > FRANCE > =================================================================== > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 8:16:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C33BC37B41B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27GG7R23915; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:16:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:16:07 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt To: Ben Wilkinson Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes In-Reply-To: <3C878EB5.9DABEB60@newnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020307170950.C99061-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: BW>Hi, BW> BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having these = cards run SDH! BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info o= n how I go about this? BW> BW>Ben No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph drivers for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be de-orbited in -current. harti BW> BW>"Christophe Pr=E9votaux" wrote: BW>> BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this work BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my need= s BW>> BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 ca= rds BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers BW>> BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: BW>> BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Pr=E9votaux wrote: BW>> > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able t= o BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one wou= ld BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure based= on BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists on BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM over BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of cours= e I BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric cards BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. BW>> > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy t= oo: BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a comma= nd BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: BW>> > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ BW>> > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. BW>> > BW>> > harti BW>> > -- BW>> > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/har= tmut.brandt/private BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org BW>> > BW>> > BW>> BW>> -- BW>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 BW>> FRANCE BW>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BW>> BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message BW> --=20 harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.br= andt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 9: 4:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from savitri.newnet.co.uk (savitri.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7E937B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from newnet.co.uk (ben.cams.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.219]) by savitri.newnet.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27H4gh17801; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:04:42 GMT (envelope-from ben@newnet.co.uk) Message-ID: <3C879E18.B0BE8CBB@newnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 17:06:32 +0000 From: Ben Wilkinson Organization: Newnet plc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harti Brandt Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes References: <20020307170950.C99061-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, I have such a request to be able to run on SDH, sorry if I seem confused but I am not familuar with this other driver :( Any chance you can help here? Ben Harti Brandt wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: > > BW>Hi, > BW> > BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having these cards run SDH! > BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info on how I go about this? > BW> > BW>Ben > > No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph drivers > for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current > only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. > > Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be > de-orbited in -current. > > harti > > BW> > BW>"Christophe Prévotaux" wrote: > BW>> > BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this work > BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my needs > BW>> > BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 cards > BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers > BW>> > BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) > BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: > BW>> > BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > BW>> > > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able to > BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one would > BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure based on > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists on > BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM over > BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of course I > BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for > BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric cards > BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. > BW>> > > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register > BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy too: > BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a command > BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: > BW>> > > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. > BW>> > > BW>> > harti > BW>> > -- > BW>> > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org > BW>> > > BW>> > > BW>> > BW>> -- > BW>> =================================================================== > BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 > BW>> FRANCE > BW>> =================================================================== > BW>> > BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > BW> > > -- > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 9: 8: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mail.matriplex.com (ns1.matriplex.com [208.131.42.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1091137B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.matriplex.com (mail.matriplex.com [208.131.42.9]) by mail.matriplex.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00433; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rh@matriplex.com) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:07:43 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Hodges To: atm_roberto@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (FreeBSD TCP) vs (Linux TCP) In-Reply-To: <200203071515.g27FFDu63200@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > on Thu, 7 Mar 2002 02:48:52 -0800 (PST), Russo Roberto said: > > > I am working to evaluate performance of > > throughput between two PC connected between > > a Fore-ATM card adapter to a network: > > the netwotk is composed of a PVC of 4Mbps between > > three routers and I am just looking to use > > differente queuing discipline like FIFO-PQ-WFQ. > > > > I have configured the two PC with the same Operating > > Systems: a Linux (Red-Hat) and a FreeBSD v4.3 (Kame > > Patch) and I am using NETPERF to make throughput > > test. On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, mark tinguely wrote: > I would suggest that you run FreeBSD 4.5. There was a long-hidden socket bug > that under certain situation caused the socket mechanism to go idle for a > lengthy period of time and this caused performance issues. This socket > problem was fixed in the FreeBSD 4.5 release. There was also the bug in the Fore PCA200E driver (device hfa) from 4.1 to 4.3 that caused massive packet loss. -Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 9: 8:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C116137B42A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27H8dR07923; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:08:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:08:39 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt To: Ben Wilkinson Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes In-Reply-To: <3C879E18.B0BE8CBB@newnet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020307180636.U99061-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: BW>Yes, I have such a request to be able to run on SDH, sorry if I seem BW>confused but I am not familuar with this other driver :( BW> BW>Any chance you can help here? Well, I'm confused. Are you running -stable or -current? What are you running on top of ATM? CLIP, LANE, PVCs-only, PPP? harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 9:18:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from savitri.newnet.co.uk (savitri.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B5437B41A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:18:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from newnet.co.uk (ben.cams.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.219]) by savitri.newnet.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27HIjh17901; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:18:45 GMT (envelope-from ben@newnet.co.uk) Message-ID: <3C87A163.F8E46536@newnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 17:20:35 +0000 From: Ben Wilkinson Organization: Newnet plc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harti Brandt Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes References: <20020307180636.U99061-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running 4.4 with -current drivers, with PVCs on the ATM only. Ben Harti Brandt wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: > > BW>Yes, I have such a request to be able to run on SDH, sorry if I seem > BW>confused but I am not familuar with this other driver :( > BW> > BW>Any chance you can help here? > > Well, I'm confused. Are you running -stable or -current? What are you > running on top of ATM? CLIP, LANE, PVCs-only, PPP? > > harti > -- > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 13:34:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from esply02.cnt.com (mailhost.cnt.com [139.93.128.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD24E37B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:34:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by esply02.cnt.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:34:37 -0600 Message-ID: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F0BC@esply03.cnt.com> From: Joe Thomas To: 'Harti Brandt' , Ben Wilkinson Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FYI - HARP Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:34:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, the message was: >The two hardware drivers for the HARP ATM stack has been broken in >-current for a LOOOONG time now. > >If nobody are have sufficient interest in the HARP ATM stack to = actually >fix these two drivers, we should retire the entire thing from = -current. > >So consider this a "last call", if the drivers are not fixed by may = 1st >the HARP ATM stack will be put in the attic. > >If anybody is interested in actively maintaining this code, I may be >able to find a donor for some ATM cards. > >--=20 >Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 >phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 >FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe >Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by = incompetence. > The key being "If nobody are have (sic) sufficient interest ..." As one of the original developers, I do have an interest in seeing this maintained. The problem has been that all of us have taken jobs = elsewhere and the equipment we used is not available to us. I am in the process = of trying to get my current employer to allow me to use some equipment = here to continue this support. (Equipment being a PC and access to a FORE = switch and/or other ATM testing equipment such as an ADTECH AX/4000) The two problems are one: it's of no direct benefit to them so I must convince = them that it has no impact on my completing my "real" work, and two: the adapters = we have here are not PC PCI based. Poul-Henning has mentioned that he's looking = for someone to loan/donate a card or two to support this but until I get = the okay here, I'm not going to pursue adapters.=20 Joseph Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Harti Brandt [mailto:brandt@fokus.gmd.de] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:16 AM To: Ben Wilkinson Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Service Classes On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: BW>Hi, BW> BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having = these cards run SDH! BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more = info on how I go about this? BW> BW>Ben No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph = drivers for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be de-orbited in -current. harti BW> BW>"Christophe Pr=E9votaux" wrote: BW>> BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this = work BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my = needs BW>> BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi = HE155 cards BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers BW>> BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: BW>> BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Pr=E9votaux wrote: BW>> > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being = able to BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one would BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure = based on BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what = exists on BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM = over BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of = course I BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric = cards BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. BW>> > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI = register BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be = easy too: BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a command BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: BW>> > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ BW>> > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. BW>> > BW>> > harti BW>> > -- BW>> > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/privat= e BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org BW>> > BW>> > BW>> BW>> -- BW>> = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: = c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: = http://www.hexanet.fr/ BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 BW>> FRANCE BW>> = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BW>> BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message BW> --=20 harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/privat= e brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 13:54: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from lithium.nac.net (lithium.nac.net [64.21.52.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BABB837B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 44345 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2002 21:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO phosphorus.hq.nac.net) (207.99.116.204) by mail.nac.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2002 21:53:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:53:46 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: Alex Rubenstein To: Joe Thomas Cc: 'Harti Brandt' , Ben Wilkinson , "atm@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FYI - HARP In-Reply-To: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F0BC@esply03.cnt.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: alex@mail.nac.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can loan a pca/200e to anyone doing legitimate work on harp/hfa. On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Joe Thomas wrote: > > Actually, the message was: > > >The two hardware drivers for the HARP ATM stack has been broken in > >-current for a LOOOONG time now. > > > >If nobody are have sufficient interest in the HARP ATM stack to actually > >fix these two drivers, we should retire the entire thing from -current. > > > >So consider this a "last call", if the drivers are not fixed by may 1st > >the HARP ATM stack will be put in the attic. > > > >If anybody is interested in actively maintaining this code, I may be > >able to find a donor for some ATM cards. > > > >-- > >Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > >phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > >FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > >Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > > > The key being "If nobody are have (sic) sufficient interest ..." > > As one of the original developers, I do have an interest in seeing > this > maintained. The problem has been that all of us have taken jobs elsewhere > and the equipment we used is not available to us. I am in the process of > trying to get my current employer to allow me to use some equipment here > to continue this support. (Equipment being a PC and access to a FORE switch > and/or other ATM testing equipment such as an ADTECH AX/4000) The two > problems are one: it's of no direct benefit to them so I must convince them > that > it has no impact on my completing my "real" work, and two: the adapters we > have > here are not PC PCI based. Poul-Henning has mentioned that he's looking for > someone to loan/donate a card or two to support this but until I get the > okay > here, I'm not going to pursue adapters. > > Joseph Thomas > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harti Brandt [mailto:brandt@fokus.gmd.de] > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:16 AM > To: Ben Wilkinson > Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Service Classes > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: > > BW>Hi, > BW> > BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having these > cards run SDH! > BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info on > how I go about this? > BW> > BW>Ben > > No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph drivers > for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current > only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. > > Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be > de-orbited in -current. > > harti > > BW> > BW>"Christophe Prévotaux" wrote: > BW>> > BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this work > BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my needs > BW>> > BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 > cards > BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers > BW>> > BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) > BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: > BW>> > BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > BW>> > > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able to > BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one > would > BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure based > on > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists on > BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM over > BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of course > I > BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for > BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric cards > BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. > BW>> > > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register > BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy > too: > BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a > command > BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: > BW>> > > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. > BW>> > > BW>> > harti > BW>> > -- > BW>> > harti brandt, > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org > BW>> > > BW>> > > BW>> > BW>> -- > BW>> =================================================================== > BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 > BW>> FRANCE > BW>> =================================================================== > BW>> > BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > BW> > > -- > harti brandt, > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 13:59:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from cad.arl.army.mil (cad.arl.army.mil [128.63.247.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EF9437B41C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cad.arl.army.mil by CAD.ARL.ARMY.MIL id aa694971; 7 Mar 2002 16:57 EST Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:57:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Lee A. Butler" To: Joe Thomas Cc: 'Harti Brandt' , Ben Wilkinson , atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FYI - HARP In-Reply-To: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F0BC@esply03.cnt.com> Message-ID: X-URL: http://ftp.arl.army.mil/~butler/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset= Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are actually interested in having the drivers maintained. We have the hardware, but not the manpower to maintain the drivers. Perhaps we could arrange something. Lee A. Butler=09=09=09=09=09E-Mail: butler@arl.army.mil Attn: AMSRL-SL-BE=09=09=09=09Phone: (410) 278-9200 U.S. Army Research Laboratory=09=09=09DSN:=09 298-9200 Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD 21005-5068=09=09FAX: (410) 278-5058 As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. --- Justice William O. Douglas On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Joe Thomas wrote: > =09Actually, the message was: >=20 > >The two hardware drivers for the HARP ATM stack has been broken in > >-current for a LOOOONG time now. > > > >If nobody are have sufficient interest in the HARP ATM stack to actually > >fix these two drivers, we should retire the entire thing from -current. > > > >So consider this a "last call", if the drivers are not fixed by may 1st > >the HARP ATM stack will be put in the attic. > > > >If anybody is interested in actively maintaining this code, I may be > >able to find a donor for some ATM cards. > > > >--=20 > >Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > >phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > >FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > >Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompeten= ce. > > >=20 > The key being "If nobody are have (sic) sufficient interest ..." >=20 > =09As one of the original developers, I do have an interest in seeing > this > maintained. The problem has been that all of us have taken jobs elsewhere > and the equipment we used is not available to us. I am in the process of > trying to get my current employer to allow me to use some equipment here > to continue this support. (Equipment being a PC and access to a FORE swit= ch > and/or other ATM testing equipment such as an ADTECH AX/4000) The two > problems are one: it's of no direct benefit to them so I must convince th= em > that > it has no impact on my completing my "real" work, and two: the adapters w= e > have > here are not PC PCI based. Poul-Henning has mentioned that he's looking f= or > someone to loan/donate a card or two to support this but until I get the > okay > here, I'm not going to pursue adapters.=20 >=20 > Joseph Thomas >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Harti Brandt [mailto:brandt@fokus.gmd.de] > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:16 AM > To: Ben Wilkinson > Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Service Classes >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: >=20 > BW>Hi, > BW> > BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having thes= e > cards run SDH! > BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info= on > how I go about this? > BW> > BW>Ben >=20 > No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph drivers > for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current > only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. >=20 > Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be > de-orbited in -current. >=20 > harti >=20 > BW> > BW>"Christophe Pr=E9votaux" wrote: > BW>> > BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this wo= rk > BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my ne= eds > BW>> > BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 > cards > BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers > BW>> > BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) > BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: > BW>> > BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Pr=E9votaux wrote: > BW>> > > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able= to > BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one > would > BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure bas= ed > on > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists = on > BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM ov= er > BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of cou= rse > I > BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for > BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric car= ds > BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. > BW>> > > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register > BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy > too: > BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a > command > BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: > BW>> > > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > BW>> > > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. > BW>> > > BW>> > harti > BW>> > -- > BW>> > harti brandt, > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org > BW>> > > BW>> > > BW>> > BW>> -- > BW>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 > BW>> FRANCE > BW>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > BW>> > BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > BW> >=20 > --=20 > harti brandt, > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Mar 7 14: 1: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from paix.pilosoft.com (paix.pilosoft.com [216.66.12.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5697037B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (alex@localhost) by paix.pilosoft.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27Go6024871 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:50:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:50:05 -0500 (EST) From: alex@pilosoft.com Cc: "atm@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: FYI - HARP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And I can offer Interphase 5575. -alex On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > > I can loan a pca/200e to anyone doing legitimate work on harp/hfa. > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Joe Thomas wrote: > > > > > Actually, the message was: > > > > >The two hardware drivers for the HARP ATM stack has been broken in > > >-current for a LOOOONG time now. > > > > > >If nobody are have sufficient interest in the HARP ATM stack to actually > > >fix these two drivers, we should retire the entire thing from -current. > > > > > >So consider this a "last call", if the drivers are not fixed by may 1st > > >the HARP ATM stack will be put in the attic. > > > > > >If anybody is interested in actively maintaining this code, I may be > > >able to find a donor for some ATM cards. > > > > > >-- > > >Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > > >phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > > >FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > > >Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > > > > > > > The key being "If nobody are have (sic) sufficient interest ..." > > > > As one of the original developers, I do have an interest in seeing > > this > > maintained. The problem has been that all of us have taken jobs elsewhere > > and the equipment we used is not available to us. I am in the process of > > trying to get my current employer to allow me to use some equipment here > > to continue this support. (Equipment being a PC and access to a FORE switch > > and/or other ATM testing equipment such as an ADTECH AX/4000) The two > > problems are one: it's of no direct benefit to them so I must convince them > > that > > it has no impact on my completing my "real" work, and two: the adapters we > > have > > here are not PC PCI based. Poul-Henning has mentioned that he's looking for > > someone to loan/donate a card or two to support this but until I get the > > okay > > here, I'm not going to pursue adapters. > > > > Joseph Thomas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Harti Brandt [mailto:brandt@fokus.gmd.de] > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:16 AM > > To: Ben Wilkinson > > Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Service Classes > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Ben Wilkinson wrote: > > > > BW>Hi, > > BW> > > BW>I am not a programmer either :( However I am interested in having these > > cards run SDH! > > BW>Has anyone implemented this functionality yet? Or maybe some more info on > > how I go about this? > > BW> > > BW>Ben > > > > No. If there is such a request I will implement it in my netgraph drivers > > for the HE and the PCA200. These drivers will be available in -current > > only and will use the netgraph ATM stack. > > > > Note, that there was a message last week, that HARP is going to be > > de-orbited in -current. > > > > harti > > > > BW> > > BW>"Christophe Prévotaux" wrote: > > BW>> > > BW>> oops I am not a programmer , I doubt I can succeed in making this work > > BW>> however since the PCA200E does not support CBR it does not fit my needs > > BW>> > > BW>> I think I will have to look at the prosum card or the marconi HE155 > > cards > > BW>> but all these have Linux drivers but no FreeBSD drivers > > BW>> > > BW>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 17:24:41 +0200 (CEST) > > BW>> Harti Brandt wrote: > > BW>> > > BW>> > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Christophe Prévotaux wrote: > > BW>> > > > BW>> > CP>how do you do this ? Could someone implement this function in > > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD ? the purpose of this is simple : being able to > > BW>> > CP>configure SDH VCs and pass ATM over it or IP + MPLS, thus one > > would > > BW>> > CP>be able to have affordable Telco Grade Fiber infrastructure based > > on > > BW>> > CP>FreeBSD or NetBSD systems , much much cheaper than what exists on > > BW>> > CP>the market at this time (unless I don't know about cheap ATM over > > BW>> > CP>SDH and IP MPLS over SDH hardware that already exists) , Of course > > I > > BW>> > CP>realize that I won't get ASICs based hardware performance for > > BW>> > CP>routing because I don't know of any PCI based switch fabric cards > > BW>> > CP>available and less about drivers for such cards. > > BW>> > > > BW>> > That's fairly easy: you have to write value 0x90 in SUNI register > > BW>> > 0x46 for SONET and value 0x94 for SDH. Implementing should be easy > > too: > > BW>> > make an ioctl that take a 32bit argument and inserts it into a > > command > > BW>> > block to the PCA200. The argument should have the form: > > BW>> > > > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > > BW>> > | 8 bits mask | 8 bits value | 8 bits regno | 0x87 | > > BW>> > +-------------+--------------+--------------+-------------+ > > BW>> > > > BW>> > and you would use 0xff904687 for SONET and 0xff944687 for SDH. > > BW>> > > > BW>> > harti > > BW>> > -- > > BW>> > harti brandt, > > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > > BW>> > brandt@fokus.gmd.de, harti@begemot.org > > BW>> > > > BW>> > > > BW>> > > BW>> -- > > BW>> =================================================================== > > BW>> Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > > BW>> HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > > BW>> Z.A Farman Sud Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > > BW>> 9 rue Roland Coffignot Direct: +33 (0)3 26 79 08 02 > > BW>> BP415 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > > BW>> 51689 Reims Cedex 2 > > BW>> FRANCE > > BW>> =================================================================== > > BW>> > > BW>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > BW>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > > BW> > > > > -- > > harti brandt, > > http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > > brandt@fokus.fhg.de > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > > > > -- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@nac.net, latency, Al Reuben -- > -- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Mar 8 7:37:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu [134.129.125.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BCC37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:37:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g28FbOn71666; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:37:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:37:24 -0600 (CST) From: mark tinguely Message-Id: <200203081537.g28FbOn71666@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> To: ben@newnet.co.uk, brandt@fokus.gmd.de, joe_thomas@cnt.com Subject: Re: FYI - HARP Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG, c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr In-Reply-To: <67DB78CE91D7D41190A100508BFDF5E051F0BC@esply03.cnt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Hodges and I, have an IDT 77201/77211 SAR ATM driver that works with the HARP code and has never been folded into the release. Richard's version is a better choice. I know that Christophe Prévotaux has been asking for the prosum card and I can see that it is a much better VBR version than the above mentioned 772x1. If you want it supported, I will do if for a fee. Like many others I don't get paid any more to support ATM, and do not have access to the hardware. --mark tinguely. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Mar 8 14:16:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from valu.uninet.ee (valu.uninet.ee [194.204.34.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E509737B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by valu.uninet.ee (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6B43036420; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:16:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by valu.uninet.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6942832619; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:16:22 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:16:22 +0200 (EET) From: Taavi Talvik To: mark tinguely Cc: ben@newnet.co.uk, , , , Subject: Re: FYI - HARP In-Reply-To: <200203081537.g28FbOn71666@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> Message-ID: <20020309000410.P97908-100000@valu.uninet.ee> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, mark tinguely wrote: > Richard Hodges and I, have an IDT 77201/77211 SAR ATM driver that > works with the HARP code and has never been folded into the release. > Richard's version is a better choice. Very interesting. I have 3com ADSL card which uses IDT SAR (forgot their marketing name). It should be quite straithforward to add support for ADSL (after cleaning up my code for Alcatel DMT phy - i just have to find time for this) to above driver. best regards, taavi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message