From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 3:39:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1154D37B407 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 03:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5AAdIh04458; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:39:18 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:39:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E In-Reply-To: <20020607121859.N42854-100000@sasami.jurai.net> Message-ID: <20020610123702.F31318-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: MND>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ben wrote: MND>> Sorry to be vague, I was referring to the interest in development and MND>> maintaining ATM. I know there is interest in the use, I myself for MND>> instance am ;-) MND> MND>There are developers working on ATM in -CURRENT now so it won't be going MND>away. MND> MND>My hope is to clean up the existing HARP drivers (and inport the 'idt' MND>driver) so that the hardware drivers can be shared between HARP, NATM, and MND>the netgraph ATM stack. This has obvious advantages. Netgraph-ATM has a driver for the Marconi 155HE (which should also work with the 622HE). Given that these card cost the same as the 200E and are a good deal better (they support traffic shaping, ABR, VPI!=0) it could make sense to HARPify and import it. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 6:58:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [81.23.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453C37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g5ADwAE8045665; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 15:58:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 15:58:10 +0200 From: Christophe Prevotaux To: Harti Brandt Cc: winter@jurai.net, atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E Message-Id: <20020610155810.3a31dbdd.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20020610123702.F31318-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> References: <20020607121859.N42854-100000@sasami.jurai.net> <20020610123702.F31318-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes but I think the PCA200E should also be maintained (it has bugs and lack features (such as dynamic MTU setup and hooks for tcpdump etc...) and the netgraph ATM should support PCA200E as well Also I think the PCA200E driver has bugs (CRC related etc...) IMHO. (I am a PCA200E user and at the time I bought the PCA200E there was no 155HE drivers for FreeBSD.) I agree the HE155 is much better but some people such as myself only have PCA200E cards. On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Harti Brandt wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > MND>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ben wrote: > MND>> Sorry to be vague, I was referring to the interest in development and > MND>> maintaining ATM. I know there is interest in the use, I myself for > MND>> instance am ;-) > MND> > MND>There are developers working on ATM in -CURRENT now so it won't be going > MND>away. > MND> > MND>My hope is to clean up the existing HARP drivers (and inport the 'idt' > MND>driver) so that the hardware drivers can be shared between HARP, NATM, and > MND>the netgraph ATM stack. This has obvious advantages. > > Netgraph-ATM has a driver for the Marconi 155HE (which should also work > with the 622HE). Given that these card cost the same as the 200E and are a > good deal better (they support traffic shaping, ABR, VPI!=0) it could make > sense to HARPify and import it. > > harti > -- > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 7:17:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C4B37B485 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5AEGuh20751; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:16:57 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:16:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Christophe Prevotaux Cc: Harti Brandt , , Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E In-Reply-To: <20020610155810.3a31dbdd.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Message-ID: <20020610161441.K32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: CP> CP>Yes but I think the PCA200E should also be maintained (it has bugs CP>and lack features (such as dynamic MTU setup and hooks for tcpdump CP>etc...) and the netgraph ATM should support PCA200E as well CP> CP>Also I think the PCA200E driver has bugs (CRC related etc...) CP> CP>IMHO. (I am a PCA200E user and at the time I bought the PCA200E there CP>was no 155HE drivers for FreeBSD.) I agree the HE155 is much better CP>but some people such as myself only have PCA200E cards. I have both a driver for the HE and the PCA200E and they work just fine with NATM or netgraph-ATM. Maybe both of them could be harpyfied... harti CP> CP> CP> CP> CP>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:39:18 +0200 (CEST) CP>Harti Brandt wrote: CP> CP>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: CP>> CP>> MND>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ben wrote: CP>> MND>> Sorry to be vague, I was referring to the interest in developmen= t and CP>> MND>> maintaining ATM. I know there is interest in the use, I myself f= or CP>> MND>> instance am ;-) CP>> MND> CP>> MND>There are developers working on ATM in -CURRENT now so it won't be= going CP>> MND>away. CP>> MND> CP>> MND>My hope is to clean up the existing HARP drivers (and inport the '= idt' CP>> MND>driver) so that the hardware drivers can be shared between HARP, N= ATM, and CP>> MND>the netgraph ATM stack. This has obvious advantages. CP>> CP>> Netgraph-ATM has a driver for the Marconi 155HE (which should also wor= k CP>> with the 622HE). Given that these card cost the same as the 200E and a= re a CP>> good deal better (they support traffic shaping, ABR, VPI!=3D0) it coul= d make CP>> sense to HARPify and import it. CP>> CP>> harti CP>> -- CP>> harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartm= ut.brandt/private CP>> brandt@fokus.fhg.de CP>> CP>> CP>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org CP>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message CP>> CP> CP> CP>-- CP>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CP>Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr CP>HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ CP>Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 CP>3 All=E9e Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 CP>BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 CP>51686 Reims Cedex 2 CP>FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center CP>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CP> --=20 harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.br= andt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 7:58:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [81.23.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A136E37B404 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g5AEvgE8045867; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:57:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:57:42 +0200 From: Christophe Prevotaux To: Harti Brandt Cc: atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E Message-Id: <20020610165742.01a50816.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20020610161441.K32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> References: <20020610155810.3a31dbdd.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20020610161441.K32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:16:56 +0200 (CEST) Harti Brandt wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: > > CP> > CP>Yes but I think the PCA200E should also be maintained (it has bugs > CP>and lack features (such as dynamic MTU setup and hooks for tcpdump > CP>etc...) and the netgraph ATM should support PCA200E as well > CP> > CP>Also I think the PCA200E driver has bugs (CRC related etc...) > CP> > CP>IMHO. (I am a PCA200E user and at the time I bought the PCA200E there > CP>was no 155HE drivers for FreeBSD.) I agree the HE155 is much better > CP>but some people such as myself only have PCA200E cards. > > I have both a driver for the HE and the PCA200E and they work just fine > with NATM or netgraph-ATM. Maybe both of them could be harpyfied... that would be nice if it was done indeed. Also as you may have read in the atm@freebsd.org mailing list , I posted about several problems I had with the PCA200E driver with HARP, do you know if your drivers would fix this ? I also hope that all these changes you propose will be able to to be integrated into STABLE soon because running current on a production machine is not good IMHO :) > > harti > > CP> > CP> > CP> > CP> > CP>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 12:39:18 +0200 (CEST) > CP>Harti Brandt wrote: > CP> > CP>> On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > CP>> > CP>> MND>On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Ben wrote: > CP>> MND>> Sorry to be vague, I was referring to the interest in development and > CP>> MND>> maintaining ATM. I know there is interest in the use, I myself for > CP>> MND>> instance am ;-) > CP>> MND> > CP>> MND>There are developers working on ATM in -CURRENT now so it won't be going > CP>> MND>away. > CP>> MND> > CP>> MND>My hope is to clean up the existing HARP drivers (and inport the 'idt' > CP>> MND>driver) so that the hardware drivers can be shared between HARP, NATM, and > CP>> MND>the netgraph ATM stack. This has obvious advantages. > CP>> > CP>> Netgraph-ATM has a driver for the Marconi 155HE (which should also work > CP>> with the 622HE). Given that these card cost the same as the 200E and are a > CP>> good deal better (they support traffic shaping, ABR, VPI!=0) it could make > CP>> sense to HARPify and import it. > CP>> > CP>> harti > CP>> -- > CP>> harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > CP>> brandt@fokus.fhg.de > CP>> > CP>> > CP>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > CP>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message > CP>> > CP> > CP> > CP>-- > CP>=============================================================== > CP>Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr > CP>HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ > CP>Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 > CP>3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 > CP>BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 > CP>51686 Reims Cedex 2 > CP>FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center > CP>=============================================================== > CP> > > -- > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de > > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 8:14:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F7A37B403 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5AFE7h03854; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:14:07 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:14:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Christophe Prevotaux Cc: atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E In-Reply-To: <20020610165742.01a50816.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Message-ID: <20020610171003.V32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: CP>> I have both a driver for the HE and the PCA200E and they work just fine CP>> with NATM or netgraph-ATM. Maybe both of them could be harpyfied... CP> CP>that would be nice if it was done indeed. Also as you may have read in CP>the atm@freebsd.org mailing list , I posted about several problems I CP>had with the PCA200E driver with HARP, do you know if your drivers CP>would fix this ? The question is, who will do the integration with HARP. I gave up twice on HARP. If there is just the need for a couple of additional ioctl to support HARP that should be easy, however. I've seen your postings and assume, that the problems are driver related. Given that my drivers are not based on HARP's I assume that would fix it. CP>I also hope that all these changes you propose will be able to to be CP>integrated into STABLE soon because running current on a production CP>machine is not good IMHO :) Well, porting my drivers to STABLE should be easy, porting netgraph-ATM is out of question because of the large changes in the netgraph system. I hope, however, that somewhere in the future CURRENT will become STABLE :-) harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 11: 0:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from proton.hexanet.fr (proton.hexanet.fr [81.23.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4309A37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hexanet.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proton.hexanet.fr (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id g5AHxDE8046433; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:59:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:59:13 +0200 From: Christophe Prevotaux To: Harti Brandt Cc: atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E Message-Id: <20020610195913.52567061.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20020610171003.V32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> References: <20020610165742.01a50816.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20020610171003.V32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> Organization: HEXANET Sarl X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.4) X-NCC-RegID: fr.hexanet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Harti Brandt wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: > > CP>> I have both a driver for the HE and the PCA200E and they work just fine > CP>> with NATM or netgraph-ATM. Maybe both of them could be harpyfied... > CP> > CP>that would be nice if it was done indeed. Also as you may have read in > CP>the atm@freebsd.org mailing list , I posted about several problems I > CP>had with the PCA200E driver with HARP, do you know if your drivers > CP>would fix this ? > > The question is, who will do the integration with HARP. I gave up twice on > HARP. If there is just the need for a couple of additional ioctl to > support HARP that should be easy, however. I've seen your postings and > assume, that the problems are driver related. Given that my drivers are > not based on HARP's I assume that would fix it. > > CP>I also hope that all these changes you propose will be able to to be > CP>integrated into STABLE soon because running current on a production > CP>machine is not good IMHO :) > > Well, porting my drivers to STABLE should be easy, porting netgraph-ATM > is out of question because of the large changes in the netgraph system. I > hope, however, that somewhere in the future CURRENT will become STABLE :-) Do you know how far in the future these changes are supposed to become STABLE ? are we looking at Years or 1 or 2 months ? > > harti > -- > harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private > brandt@fokus.fhg.de > > -- =============================================================== Christophe Prevotaux Email: c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr HEXANET SARL URL: http://www.hexanet.fr/ Z.A.C Les Charmilles Tel: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 05 3 Allée Thierry Sabine Direct: +33 (0)3 26 61 77 72 BP202 Fax: +33 (0)3 26 79 30 06 51686 Reims Cedex 2 FRANCE HEXANET Network Operation Center =============================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 11:18:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839E237B405 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5AII5h07713; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:18:11 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:18:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Christophe Prevotaux Cc: atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E In-Reply-To: <20020610195913.52567061.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Message-ID: <20020610201717.N33171-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: CP>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:14:07 +0200 (CEST) CP>Harti Brandt wrote: CP> CP>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Christophe Prevotaux wrote: CP>> CP>> CP>> I have both a driver for the HE and the PCA200E and they work just fine CP>> CP>> with NATM or netgraph-ATM. Maybe both of them could be harpyfied... CP>> CP> CP>> CP>that would be nice if it was done indeed. Also as you may have read in CP>> CP>the atm@freebsd.org mailing list , I posted about several problems I CP>> CP>had with the PCA200E driver with HARP, do you know if your drivers CP>> CP>would fix this ? CP>> CP>> The question is, who will do the integration with HARP. I gave up twice on CP>> HARP. If there is just the need for a couple of additional ioctl to CP>> support HARP that should be easy, however. I've seen your postings and CP>> assume, that the problems are driver related. Given that my drivers are CP>> not based on HARP's I assume that would fix it. CP>> CP>> CP>I also hope that all these changes you propose will be able to to be CP>> CP>integrated into STABLE soon because running current on a production CP>> CP>machine is not good IMHO :) CP>> CP>> Well, porting my drivers to STABLE should be easy, porting netgraph-ATM CP>> is out of question because of the large changes in the netgraph system. I CP>> hope, however, that somewhere in the future CURRENT will become STABLE :-) CP> CP>Do you know how far in the future these changes are supposed to become CP>STABLE ? are we looking at Years or 1 or 2 months ? I don't know, -arch or -current may know this. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Mon Jun 10 11:29:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from kyoto.newnet.co.uk (kyoto.newnet.co.uk [212.87.87.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854EE37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newnet.co.uk (peter.port [212.87.87.37]) by kyoto.newnet.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5AISI621788; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:28:19 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from peter@newnet.co.uk) Message-ID: <3D04EFC0.88E58E9F@newnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:28:16 +0100 From: Peter Coates Organization: NewNet plc - Fast Access Internet - Support Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christophe Prevotaux Cc: Harti Brandt , atm@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hfa0 PCA200E References: <20020610165742.01a50816.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <20020610171003.V32535-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> <20020610195913.52567061.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christophe Prevotaux wrote: > > Well, porting my drivers to STABLE should be easy, porting netgraph-ATM > > is out of question because of the large changes in the netgraph system. I > > hope, however, that somewhere in the future CURRENT will become STABLE :-) > > Do you know how far in the future these changes are supposed to become STABLE ? > are we looking at Years or 1 or 2 months ? My understanding is that this will happen when the first 5.0 stable branch is released in about 6 months time. Peter NewNet plc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Jun 13 23:30:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from venus.vincentjardin.net (AVelizy-102-1-1-80.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.255.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D5B37B422 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by venus.vincentjardin.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 897B915039F; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:41:03 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: Vincent Jardin To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: HE622 and HE155 Drivers Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:41:03 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020614064103.897B915039F@venus.vincentjardin.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Are there any drivers for the HE622 and HE155 ATM boards on FreeBSD ? Do they work with both stack: HARP and NATM ? Do they support any PCI64 ? Otherwise, is there any other boards that are supported by FreeBSD and that have the same features ? Thanks, Vincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Thu Jun 13 23:42:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (mailhub.fokus.gmd.de [193.174.154.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94F337B443 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 23:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beagle (beagle [193.175.132.100]) by mailhub.fokus.gmd.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5E6ggW28817; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:42:42 +0200 (MEST) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:42:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt To: Vincent Jardin Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HE622 and HE155 Drivers In-Reply-To: <20020614064103.897B915039F@venus.vincentjardin.net> Message-ID: <20020614083839.E46969-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Vincent Jardin wrote: VJ>Hi, VJ> VJ>Are there any drivers for the HE622 and HE155 ATM boards on FreeBSD ? VJ>Do they work with both stack: HARP and NATM ? VJ> VJ>Do they support any PCI64 ? I have an NATM and netgraph-ATM driver for the HE cards. It's tested with HE155, code is there for the HE622. Don't know about PCI64. The cards are excellent. Look at http://www.fokus.fhg.de/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/ngatm You need the ngatmbase package. And, well, -current only (although the drivers itself should be portable to -stable). harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fhg.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-atm Fri Jun 14 10:18:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org Received: from venus.vincentjardin.net (AVelizy-102-1-1-80.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.255.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8695E37B41F for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by venus.vincentjardin.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 41FDD15039F; Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:27:47 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Vincent Jardin To: Harti Brandt Subject: Re: HE622 and HE155 Drivers Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:27:47 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] Cc: freebsd-atm@freebsd.org References: <20020614083839.E46969-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> In-Reply-To: <20020614083839.E46969-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20020614172747.41FDD15039F@venus.vincentjardin.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have an NATM and netgraph-ATM driver for the HE cards. It's tested with > HE155, code is there for the HE622. Don't know about PCI64. The cards are > excellent. Thanks. I have checked your source code. The idea of Netgraph ATM (ng_atm) is great. It looks simple to feed the PDU of the AAL5/CPCS with whatever payload, just like the ng_ether node. However what is the advantage on the HARP/ATM kernel sockets ? I think that the following architecture would be more simple, don't you ? \ \ / / ng_XXXX | ng_ksocket According to you, how difficult would it be if I wanted to port this drivers for the HARP stack ? Is your driver based on the Marconi's source code for the HE155 ? Why are the ATM drivers stack specific ? Vincent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-atm" in the body of the message