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>Number:         34578
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Mis-reference in DNS chapter [patch]
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Feb 03 02:20:03 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Yonatan Bokovza
>Release:        4.5-Stable
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD Temujin 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #14: Fri Feb 1 11:38:41 IST 2002  root@Temujin:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEMUJIN i386
>Description:
A note in the "DNS" chapter in "Advanced Networking" points to the wrong mailing list for security topics.
>How-To-Repeat:
Read "Advanced Networking" the part about DNS,
and see that in the "security" section the recommendation
is to subscribe to "-announce" for security information.
This is bogus.
Just wail 'till the next 'remote-root-exploit' for BIND and see for yourself. :)
>Fix:
--- chapter.sgml.orig   Sat Feb  2 02:00:57 2002
+++ chapter.sgml        Sat Feb  2 02:01:22 2002
@@ -4473,7 +4473,7 @@
       <para>
         It is a good idea to subscribe to <ulink
         url="http://www.cert.org/">CERT</ulink> and
-        <ulink url="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-announce</ulink>
+        <ulink url="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-security</ulink>
         to stay up to date with the current Internet and FreeBSD security
         issues.
       </para>
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>Number:         34577
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Some man pages still advise using "conflicts"  [patch]
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Feb 03 02:20:00 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Yonatan Bokovza
>Release:        4.5-Stable
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD Temujin 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #14: Fri Feb  1 11:38:41 IST 2002 root@Temujin:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEMUJIN  i386
>Description:
According to "config" the keyword "conflicts" is obsolete:
 
config: line 123: Obsolete keyword 'conflicts' found
*** Error code 1
 
Let's undocument it, from sb(4), sc(4), syscons(4), and vga(4)
>How-To-Repeat:
Enter this example to your kernel configuration file:
device vga0 at isa? conflicts
and run "config" on it.
>Fix:

--- sb.4.orig   Fri Feb  1 11:58:38 2002
+++ sb.4        Fri Feb  1 12:01:16 2002
@@ -50,15 +50,11 @@
 SoundBlaster 1.0 to the SoundBlaster 16/SoundBlaster 32.  The awe driver
 provides AWE32/64 functionality.  This driver is provided in
 .Fx
-versions 2.0-current through 3.0-current.  You can also configure more
-then one card on a single DMA using the conflicts keyword in your
-configuration file.  This is useful for boards with more then one type of
-emulation.
+versions 2.0-current through 3.0-current.
 .Sh BUGS
 Since the SB16 uses the same IRQ and addresses for
 the different drivers, some of the snd drivers will not be probed because
-the kernel thinks there is a conflict.  This can be worked-around by
-using the "conflicts" keyword on the sb16's device line.
+the kernel thinks there is a conflict.
 .Pp
 Current version doesn't support mode changes without closing and reopening
 the device.

--- sc.4.orig   Fri Feb  1 11:58:46 2002
+++ sc.4        Fri Feb  1 12:12:06 2002
@@ -429,7 +429,7 @@
 .Bd -literal -offset indent
 device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
 device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1
-device vga0 at isa? conflicts
+device vga0 at isa?
 device sc0 at isa?

 pseudo-device splash

--- syscons.4.orig      Fri Feb  1 11:58:52 2002
+++ syscons.4   Fri Feb  1 12:12:55 2002
@@ -429,7 +429,7 @@
 .Bd -literal -offset indent
 device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD
 device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1
-device vga0 at isa? conflicts
+device vga0 at isa?
 device sc0 at isa?
 
 pseudo-device splash
 
--- vga.4.orig  Fri Feb  1 11:58:59 2002
+++ vga.4       Fri Feb  1 12:15:08 2002
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
 .Cd "options VGA_NO_MODE_CHANGE"
 .Cd "options VGA_SLOW_IOACCESS"
 .Cd "options VGA_WIDTH90"
-.Cd "device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts"
+.Cd "device vga0 at isa? port ?"
 .Sh DESCRIPTION
 The
 .Nm
@@ -51,11 +51,6 @@
 .Nm
 driver to manipulate video hardware (changing video modes, loading font, etc).
 .Pp
-The keyword
-.Dv conflicts
-is required, as the video card may use I/O ports in the same range
-as other drivers.
-.Pp
 The
 .Nm
 driver supports the standard video cards: MDA, CGA, EGA and VGA.
@@ -131,13 +126,13 @@
 .Sh EXAMPLES
 Your kernel configuration should normally have:
 .Pp
-.Dl "device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts"
+.Dl "device vga0 at isa? port ?"
 .Pp
 The following lines should be included in the kernel configuration file
 in order to enable the VESA BIOS Extension support.
 .Pp
 .Dl "options VESA"
-.Dl "device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts"
+.Dl "device vga0 at isa? port ?"
 .Pp
 If you do not want VESA support included in the kernel, but
 want to use occasionally, do not add the

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34578; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/34578: Mis-reference in DNS chapter [patch]
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 12:01:10 +0100

 Hello,
 
 I think that suggesting -security for people who only want to track
 security announcements is quite a bit gross. Especially lately there are
 quite a few people there who have nothing better to do than chat about
 just any topic that crosses their mind, no matter if it is really
 off-topic. So the traffic is at times large and the S/N ratio sometimes
 terrible, not something a busy sysadmin would want to monitor.
 
 If you just want the security advisories, you should pick
 security-notifications. But they are also mailed to -announce, plus a
 there you get a few other items that you might be interested in as a
 FreeBSD user. The advisories are also mailed to eg bugtraq. (or at least
 used to)
 
 --
 Regards:
 
 Szilveszter ADAM
 Szombathely
 HUNGARY

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>Number:         34583
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page is broken.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun Feb 03 04:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Martin Faxer
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
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>Environment:
System: FreeBSD lockdown.nodomain 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #8: Thu Jan 24 16:58:51 CET 2002 redpixel@lockdown.nodomain:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LOCKDOWN i386


	
>Description:
	
	The DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page has a few inaccuracies.
	It states that a pointer to a moduledata_t is to be passed, when
	in fact you're supposed to pass the structure itself, which will
	be used as &structure by the SYSINIT() macro.
	The other inaccuracy is that it states that the valid values
	for ``sub'' are kept in the sysstem_sub_id enumeration.
	First off, it's misspelled; it should be system_sub_id, secondly,
	the name has changed and it's now sysinit_sub_id.

>How-To-Repeat:
	
	Read the DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page, rev 1.5.
>Fix:

	
	Apply the following fix against rev 1.5 of
	/usr/src/share/man/man9/DECLARE_MODULE.9

--- DECLARE_MODULE.diff begins here ---
--- DECLARE_MODULE.9.orig	Sun Feb  3 12:47:46 2002
+++ DECLARE_MODULE.9	Sun Feb  3 12:49:10 2002
@@ -64,7 +64,7 @@
 call to identify the module.
 .Pp
 .Fa data
-is a pointer to the
+is a
 .Vt moduledata_t
 structure, which contains two main items, the official name of the
 module name, which will be used in the
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@
 .Fn SYSINIT
 macro.
 Valid values for this are contained in the
-.Vt sysstem_sub_id
+.Vt sysinit_sub_id
 enumeration
 (see
 .Pa kernel.h )
--- DECLARE_MODULE.diff ends here ---


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>Number:         34587
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] minor corrections for kernelconfig
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>Description:
	completed a sentence,
	added a missing space
>How-To-Repeat:
	read the handbook section on kernel configuration
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.74
diff -u -r1.74 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	1 Feb 2002 09:54:51 -0000	1.74
+++ chapter.sgml	3 Feb 2002 10:37:08 -0000
@@ -616,7 +616,7 @@
     <programlisting>options          SOFTUPDATES  #Enable FFS soft updates support</programlisting>
 
     <para>This option enables soft updates in the kernel, this will help speed
-      up write access on the disks.  They enabled by default in the 4.X branch
+      up write access on the disks.  They are enabled by default in the 4.X branch
       but may not be turned on.  Review the output from &man.mount.8; to see
       if you have them enabled.  If you do not see the soft-updates option then
       you will need to activate it using the &man.tunefs.8; or &man.newfs.8;
@@ -1318,7 +1318,7 @@
 	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for the
             <keycap>enter</keycap> key, type <command>unload</command>
             and then type
-	    <command>boot<replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>,
+	    <command>boot <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>,
             or the filename of any other kernel that will boot properly.
             When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep
             a kernel that is known to work on hand.</para>
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  I posted the fix to this on Wednesday.  I do not have root access on
freefall to make the change myself.  Please fix this, or (gasp) give
all committers write access to the web update script.

   Thanks,
     - Murray

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> /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null  $(/usr/bin/xargs < HTML.manifest)
> *** Error code 1 (ignored)
> /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl  -ioutput.html.images   -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/../../../share/sgml/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog  -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog   -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/new-users/article.sgml > article.html ||  (/bin/rm -f article.html && false)
> /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null  article.html
> *** Error code 1 (ignored)
> ===> doc/articles/problem-reports
> /bin/cp -p /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/../../../share/misc/docbook.css docbook.css
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> *** Error code 1 (ignored)
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> *** Error code 1 (ignored)
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> /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null  article.html
> *** Error code 1 (ignored)
> ===> doc/articles/releng
> groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > branches.ps
> /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ps /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.eps
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> 
> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles.
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> Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.
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While browsing the online documentation on freebsd.org , I asked myself why
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hi,

When go and translate some webpages into italian as well as add
infrastructure to build italian doc documents as part of webbuild
process. There're a lot of non-english documents are building at
for website :-) But they're installed into old documents infrastructure.

http://www.freebsd.org/ru/FAQ
http://www.freebsd.org/ja/handbook

etc.

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:52:11PM +0100, Massimiliano Stucchi wrote:
> While browsing the online documentation on freebsd.org , I asked myself why
> only english/american docs are built on freefall. Can someone please give me
> an answer ? I think it would be very useful to have an international
> reference, you would be able to point your friends an colleagues to the
> online documentation even if they can't understand english, giving FreeBSD a
> more international style.
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On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:16:35PM +0100, Mark Potrex wrote:
> Where can i find the last version of handbook ?   .... ( via=20
>  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/doc there is the version of relase 4.4=
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The FTP site will be updated about three hours from the time of this
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temporarily back in December, and forgot to turn it back on. . .

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:26:24AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   Hmm... The 'ps2epsi' script installed on freefall is not being run
> with the /usr/local/bin set in the PATH.  It seems to me that we
> should run this script with /usr/local/bin in the PATH.  The
> alternative of adding 'env PATH=3D/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi'
> into the makefile seems much uglier.

Looking at freefall:/usr/local/www/bin/webupdate, PATH is only
initialised from DEFAULT_PATH if PATH is unset.

I think we should probably change that so that PATH is pre-configured so
that /bin, /usr/bin, and /usr/local/bin are always in it, irrespective
of any other paths that might be in there.

Thoughts?

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Looks good to me!

Yes, I'm interested... any time our docs do something that say "Let's
destroy your motherboard!" you get my attention.  :)

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 12:32:32AM +0000, Andrew McKay wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael Lucas wrote:
> 
> > One minor nit: you combine an emphasis and CAPITALS.  I'd just use
> > <emphasis>.  Combining italics and capitals isn't very
> > professional-looking.  It's like the use of multiple exclamation
> > points.
> 
> This should, therefore, be the best patch ever...being as it is the
> combined efforts of me, Gary and Michael.  And yeah, I had reservations
> about the combination of <emphasis> and CAPS but I went with it because
> you can never have too much stress...or something :)
> 
> -<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff
> 
> --- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
> +++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
> @@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
>        questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
>        MS-DOS.</para>
> 
> +    <note>
> +      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
> +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
> +        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
> +        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
> +        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
> +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
> +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
> +        process <emphasis>can</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
> +        permanently destroyed.</para>
> +    </note>
> +
>      <sect2>
>        <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
> 
> -</PATCH>-
> 
> -- 
> Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
> 
> 
> 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34524; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org>
To: Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
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Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:26:08 -0500

 Looks good to me!
 
 Yes, I'm interested... any time our docs do something that say "Let's
 destroy your motherboard!" you get my attention.  :)
 
 On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 12:32:32AM +0000, Andrew McKay wrote:
 > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Michael Lucas wrote:
 > 
 > > One minor nit: you combine an emphasis and CAPITALS.  I'd just use
 > > <emphasis>.  Combining italics and capitals isn't very
 > > professional-looking.  It's like the use of multiple exclamation
 > > points.
 > 
 > This should, therefore, be the best patch ever...being as it is the
 > combined efforts of me, Gary and Michael.  And yeah, I had reservations
 > about the combination of <emphasis> and CAPS but I went with it because
 > you can never have too much stress...or something :)
 > 
 > -<PATCH>- also at: http://www.openirc.co.uk/freebsd/install.diff
 > 
 > --- chapter.sgml	Sat Feb  2 12:18:14 2002
 > +++ chapter.sgml.new	Sat Feb  2 12:22:45 2002
 > @@ -4553,6 +4553,18 @@
 >        questions and answers for people wishing to dual-boot FreeBSD with
 >        MS-DOS.</para>
 > 
 > +    <note>
 > +      <para>Some installation problems can be avoided or alleviated by
 > +        updating the firmware on various hardware components, most notably the
 > +        motherboard.  If the installation fails then updating the BIOS may
 > +        solve the problem.  Refer to your motherboard manufacturer's website
 > +        for information on BIOS revisions and upgrade instructions.</para>
 > +      <para>Most manufacturers strongly advise against upgrading motherboard
 > +        BIOSs unless you have a good reason for doing so.  The
 > +        process <emphasis>can</emphasis> go wrong, causing the BIOS to be
 > +        permanently destroyed.</para>
 > +    </note>
 > +
 >      <sect2>
 >        <title>What to Do If Something Goes Wrong...</title>
 > 
 > -</PATCH>-
 > 
 > -- 
 > Andrew McKay <andy@openirc.co.uk>
 > 
 > 
 > 
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Hi,

I noticed a dead link on the FreeBSD/ppc Project page at:

http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html

The "OpenBSD/powerpc" link points to:

http://www.openbsd.org/powerpc.html

...which is now 404.

According to the new "OpenBSD/macppc" page at:

http://www.openbsd.org/macppc.html

"For 3.0, the powerpc port has been renamed to macppc."

I thought you'd like to know.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34587; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/34587: Adding Feedback on the issue
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:44:25 -0500

 <command>boot <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>
 
 I just do not really agree with this line, should whitespace be in the 
 actual tags, I think someone pointed out to me that no whitespace should 
 exsist here.  Something better would be:
 
 <command>boot</command> <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable> or maybe
 <command>boot</command> <filename>kernel.old</filename>
 
 although, the first actually sounds a bit more 'realistic' as kernel.old 
 would be a replaceable file, HOWEVER, the 'make install' would mv the 
 kernel to kernel.old meaning it would be on the system regardless...
 
 Anyone with more experiance wish to comment, maybe fill me in what to do 
 here ;)
 
 -- 
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If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:26:24AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
> >   Hmm... The 'ps2epsi' script installed on freefall is not being run
> > with the /usr/local/bin set in the PATH.  It seems to me that we
> > should run this script with /usr/local/bin in the PATH.  The
> > alternative of adding 'env PATH=3D/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi'
> > into the makefile seems much uglier.
> 
> Looking at freefall:/usr/local/www/bin/webupdate, PATH is only
> initialised from DEFAULT_PATH if PATH is unset.
> 
> I think we should probably change that so that PATH is pre-configured so
> that /bin, /usr/bin, and /usr/local/bin are always in it, irrespective
> of any other paths that might be in there.
> 
> Thoughts?

Sounds good to me...

Bruce.

PS.  Then can we see about fixing some of the other problems on the Web 
site?  :-)



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The following reply was made to PR docs/34606; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@pittgoth.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: re: docs/34606 [PATCH]
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:05:13 -0500 (EST)

 thanks Frans,
 problem is resolved, as I have submitted a patch
 as a followup to this PR.  A not-busy committer
 will apply it soon ;)
 
 regards,
  - Hiten
  - <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 
 --- releng.sgml	Fri Feb  1 14:20:14 2002
 +++ releng.sgml.new	Mon Feb  4 12:00:17 2002
 @@ -215,7 +215,7 @@
        <para>As described in the introduction, the RELENG_X_Y release
          branch is a relatively new addition to our release engineering
          methodology.  The first step in creating this branch is to
 -        ensure that you arw working with the newest version of the
 +        ensure that you are working with the newest version of the
          RELENG_X sources that you want to branch
          <emphasis>from</emphasis>.</para>
        
 

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The latest change to doc.images.mk broke PDF generation for the releng 
article because the PDF images aren't listed as dependencies for the 
*.tex-pdf file.  Consequently, texpdf complains because it can't find 
the images.

I think the following patch fixes this, and also fixes a problem where
"make FORMATS=pdf clean" wouldn't get rid of a *.ps intermediate file.
This is an extremely ugly hack, and I'm almost ashamed to have my name 
on it.

Whatcha think?

Bruce.

PS.  Editorial comment to whomever is reading:  IMAGES_GEN_* are now
misleading, now that image files can come from multiple source formats.

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diff -u -r1.15 doc.images.mk
--- doc.images.mk	2 Feb 2002 20:30:55 -0000	1.15
+++ doc.images.mk	4 Feb 2002 18:23:13 -0000
@@ -57,12 +57,15 @@
 IMAGES_GEN_PDF= ${_IMAGES_EPS:S/.eps$/.pdf/}
 IMAGES_SCR_PNG= ${_IMAGES_SCR:S/.scr$/.png/}
 IMAGES_SCR_EPS= ${_IMAGES_SCR:S/.scr$/.eps/}
+IMAGES_SCR_PDF= ${_IMAGES_SCR:S/.scr$/.pdf/}
 IMAGES_PIC_PNG= ${_IMAGES_PIC:S/.pic$/.png/}
 IMAGES_PIC_EPS= ${_IMAGES_PIC:S/.pic$/.eps/}
+IMAGES_PIC_PDF= ${_IMAGES_PIC:S/.pic$/.pdf/}
+IMAGES_GEN_PDF+= ${IMAGES_PIC_PDF} ${IMAGES_SCR_PDF}
 
 CLEANFILES+= ${IMAGES_GEN_PNG} ${IMAGES_GEN_EPS} ${IMAGES_GEN_PDF}
 CLEANFILES+= ${IMAGES_SCR_PNG} ${IMAGES_SCR_EPS}
-CLEANFILES+= ${IMAGES_PIC_PNG} ${IMAGES_PIC_EPS}
+CLEANFILES+= ${IMAGES_PIC_PNG} ${IMAGES_PIC_EPS} ${_IMAGES_PIC:S/.pic$/.ps/}
 
 IMAGES_PNG= ${_IMAGES_PNG} ${IMAGES_GEN_PNG} ${IMAGES_SCR_PNG} ${IMAGES_PIC_PNG}
 IMAGES_EPS= ${_IMAGES_EPS} ${IMAGES_GEN_EPS} ${IMAGES_SCR_EPS} ${IMAGES_PIC_EPS}



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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
     The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated.

f - feedback
     The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a
     patch or a fix has been committed.  The PR remains in this state
     pending a response from the originator.

s - suspended
     The problem is not being worked on.  This is a prime candidate
     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
     A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
     documented, and tested.

Critical problems
Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
s [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)
o [2001/10/14] docs/31265  doc      crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo

3 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
s [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/06/06] docs/27915  doc      man 5 passwd does not properly explain th
o [2001/06/30] docs/28555  doc      [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo
o [2001/07/04] docs/28699  doc      strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl
o [2001/07/22] docs/29143  doc      List of man pages that need to be written
o [2001/07/26] docs/29245  doc      top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP
f [2001/08/09] docs/29571  doc      [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct
a [2001/08/23] docs/30008  doc      This document should be translated, comme
o [2001/09/08] docs/30442  doc      remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro
o [2001/09/13] docs/30556  doc      vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit
o [2001/09/15] docs/30603  doc      physio(9) is internally inconsistent
o [2001/09/24] docs/30809  doc      fdisk(8) cleanup
o [2001/09/27] docs/30873  doc      ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord
o [2001/10/07] docs/31109  doc      replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat
o [2001/10/09] docs/31164  doc      man page for strftime is incorrect
a [2001/10/14] docs/31271  doc      rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp
o [2001/10/30] docs/31640  doc      Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa
o [2001/10/30] docs/31653  doc      Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
o [2001/11/15] docs/32020  doc      loader.8 manpage missing tunables
o [2001/11/16] docs/32041  doc      Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi
o [2001/11/16] docs/32054  doc      inconsistency between index.3 and rindex.
a [2001/11/26] docs/32323  doc      man page `named(8)' do not have link for 
o [2001/11/29] docs/32373  doc      Bad ifconfig(8) alias advice in FAQ 10.9
o [2001/12/01] docs/32425  doc      Document cvs update `P file' output
o [2001/12/02] docs/32451  doc      Missing images in vm-design article
o [2001/12/02] docs/32463  doc      ifconfig(8) missing address_family defaul
o [2001/12/03] docs/32468  doc      broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs
s [2001/12/07] docs/32578  doc      A _really_ petty change to the front page
o [2001/12/10] docs/32674  doc      no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca
o [2001/12/13] docs/32825  doc      undocumented options in LINT
o [2001/12/16] docs/32901  doc      Misleading statement about "X Windows"
o [2001/12/20] docs/33042  doc      Minor changes to Chapter 2 of the handboo
o [2001/12/30] docs/33354  doc      no rsync section in mirror chapter of the
o [2002/01/05] docs/33585  doc      Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33586  doc      An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage
o [2002/01/05] docs/33589  doc      Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .
o [2002/01/07] docs/33639  doc      ping(8) and ping6(8) are silent about SIG
o [2002/01/07] docs/33654  doc      openssl(1) contains many broken SEE ALSO 
o [2002/01/13] docs/33852  doc      split(1) man page implies that input file
o [2002/01/14] docs/33877  doc      Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-
o [2002/01/14] docs/33907  doc      dump(8) man page is misleading in nodump 
o [2002/01/15] misc/33926  doc      Search function on website can not access
o [2002/01/16] docs/33937  doc      Add a timezone related hint to make world
o [2002/01/17] docs/34005  doc      mmap man page description of ENOMEM is am
o [2002/01/18] docs/34038  doc      [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf
o [2002/01/18] docs/34047  doc      [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referre
o [2002/01/19] docs/34074  doc      Handbook section 12.3 -- Adding Disks inc
o [2002/01/20] docs/34088  doc      a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is
o [2002/01/22] docs/34184  doc      Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" synta
o [2002/01/23] docs/34222  doc      head(1) man page has erroneous SYNOPSIS.
o [2002/01/24] docs/34234  doc      restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrest
o [2002/01/24] docs/34239  doc      tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe argum
o [2002/01/24] docs/34248  doc      dump(8) man page block/record/other clari
o [2002/01/27] docs/34344  doc      [PATCH] Warp 'Creating a Swapfile' in <ex
o [2002/01/30] docs/34460  doc      potential minor error in Developer's Hand
o [2002/01/30] docs/34479  doc      bug in sshd manpage ( sshd and /var/run/n
o [2002/02/01] docs/34524  doc      [PATCH] - Add important pre-installation 
o [2002/02/01] docs/34529  doc      [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and 
o [2002/02/03] docs/34577  doc      Some man pages still advise using "confli
o [2002/02/03] docs/34578  doc      Mis-reference in DNS chapter [patch]
o [2002/02/03] docs/34583  doc      DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page is broken.
o [2002/02/03] docs/34587  doc      [PATCH] minor corrections for kernelconfi
o [2002/02/04] docs/34606  doc      type in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/rele

68 problems total.


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Hello gang,

The latest commit (rev 1.192) to handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml features
a typo and therefore breaks the build. (Which of course goes unnoticed
because the freefall build bombs out sometime earlier generating boring
repetitive messages to the list:-)

Patch is trivial:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/local/ncvs/freebsd//doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.192
diff -u -r1.192 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	4 Feb 2002 15:43:03 -0000	1.192
+++ chapter.sgml	4 Feb 2002 18:57:30 -0000
@@ -3096,7 +3096,7 @@
 
 	    <listitem>
 	      <para>cvsup4.fr.FreeBSD.org (maintainer
-		<email>ftpmaster@t-online.fr<email>)</para>
+		<email>ftpmaster@t-online.fr</email>)</para>
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 	  </itemizedlist>
 	</listitem>

Hopefully indentation does not get messed up.:-)

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Below is a copy of an email I was forwarded from ASUSCOM after reading =
that the P-IN100-ST-D was on your compatibility list. And then later, =
coming to realise it didn't appear in dmesg, and doing a ``pciconf -lv'' =
only to be returned with:

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    vendor   =3D 'Asustek Computer Inc.'
    device   =3D 'HFC-S PCI A Cologne Chip'
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Here is the email:

Our P-IN-100-ST series have two kinds of chipset,
one is the winbond w6692 chip and the other is the HFC cologne chip.
All of the two kinds of card have support the Linux.

Attached is one of our driver's document, please reference it.
(This driver is fix the Linux kernel can't install the winbond based =
card successful,
  the HFC based should not need any further driver)

Regards,

I'll summarise, they've stopped making these cards with winbond =
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install the=20
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driver)</EM></FONT></DIV>
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On Mon, 04 Feb 2002 at 20:08:15 +0100, Szilveszter Adam wrote:
> Hello gang,
> 
> The latest commit (rev 1.192) to handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml
> features a typo and therefore breaks the build. (Which of course goes
> unnoticed because the freefall build bombs out sometime earlier
> generating boring repetitive messages to the list:-)
> 
> Patch is trivial:

Thanks, I just committed the fix.

- jim

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On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:16:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
[snip]
> David Sieborger wrote:
> > -Product Id	> -Vendor Id	> -Release Id
> > +Product ID	> +Vendor ID	> +Release ID
> 
> Hum, capitalization is prime time flamefest/bikeshed material.
> I can't comment on this.  Someone with more 'english style' expertize
> will probably know better.

Thinking about it again (and looking in the dictionary), perhaps
"I.D." might be better.  I guessed that "Id" must've come from the
capitalisation used in variable names like "customerIdNumber".  But
if this is a contentious point, perhaps it should be left unchanged.

[snip]
> >  Whenever a device is attached or
> >  detached the list of actions read from
> >  .Pa /etc/usbd.conf
> > -are searched for a matching entry.
> > +is searched for a matching entry.
> >  If found, the corresponding action is
> >  executed.
> 
> `The list .. is searched.'  This is correct as it is IMHO.
> I'm not a native speaker, and I might be wrong here, but this would
> probably look OK, if written as the following:
> 
> 	Whenever a device is attached or detached,
> 	the list of actions (which is read from
> 	.Pa /etc/usbd.conf )
> 	is searched for a matching entry.
> 
> or something similar.  What do you think?

I agree, I think your suggestion improves that aspect.

Rereading those pages now, I noticed a few more problems that I'd
missed.  And as has been pointed out, my suggestions aren't perfect
either.  I hesitate to suggest wholesale changes for lack of
experience in this, and not wanting to tread on toes.

It seems clear that the English usage in usbd(8) and usbd.conf(5) is
not as good as it could be, and could benefit from some of the
simpler corrections I've suggested and possibly a more thorough
edit by someone more qualified than myself.



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The following reply was made to PR docs/34529; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?David_Sieb=F6rger?= <drs@rucus.ru.ac.za>
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 On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:16:53PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 [snip]
 > David Sieborger wrote:
 > > -Product Id	> -Vendor Id	> -Release Id
 > > +Product ID	> +Vendor ID	> +Release ID
 > 
 > Hum, capitalization is prime time flamefest/bikeshed material.
 > I can't comment on this.  Someone with more 'english style' expertize
 > will probably know better.
 
 Thinking about it again (and looking in the dictionary), perhaps
 "I.D." might be better.  I guessed that "Id" must've come from the
 capitalisation used in variable names like "customerIdNumber".  But
 if this is a contentious point, perhaps it should be left unchanged.
 
 [snip]
 > >  Whenever a device is attached or
 > >  detached the list of actions read from
 > >  .Pa /etc/usbd.conf
 > > -are searched for a matching entry.
 > > +is searched for a matching entry.
 > >  If found, the corresponding action is
 > >  executed.
 > 
 > `The list .. is searched.'  This is correct as it is IMHO.
 > I'm not a native speaker, and I might be wrong here, but this would
 > probably look OK, if written as the following:
 > 
 > 	Whenever a device is attached or detached,
 > 	the list of actions (which is read from
 > 	.Pa /etc/usbd.conf )
 > 	is searched for a matching entry.
 > 
 > or something similar.  What do you think?
 
 I agree, I think your suggestion improves that aspect.
 
 Rereading those pages now, I noticed a few more problems that I'd
 missed.  And as has been pointed out, my suggestions aren't perfect
 either.  I hesitate to suggest wholesale changes for lack of
 experience in this, and not wanting to tread on toes.
 
 It seems clear that the English usage in usbd(8) and usbd.conf(5) is
 not as good as it could be, and could benefit from some of the
 simpler corrections I've suggested and possibly a more thorough
 edit by someone more qualified than myself.
 
 
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34587; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Martin Heinen <martin@sumuk.de>
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 On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 08:40:04AM -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 
 >  <command>boot <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>
 >  
 >  I just do not really agree with this line, should whitespace be in the 
 >  actual tags, I think someone pointed out to me that no whitespace should 
 >  exsist here.  Something better would be:
 >  
 >  <command>boot</command> <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable> or maybe
 >  <command>boot</command> <filename>kernel.old</filename>
 
 According to 'DocBook - The Definitive Guide' <command> describes
 an executable program or a text of a command.  <replaceable> is listed
 as valid content for <command>.
 
 The <medialabel> tag seems similar to <command> (in usage terms) and
 the following example is given:
 
 | ... <medialabel>Backup <replaceable>nn</replaceable></medialabel>
 
 Note that <replaceable> and a space are included in the medialabel
 element.
 
 >  although, the first actually sounds a bit more 'realistic' as kernel.old 
 >  would be a replaceable file, HOWEVER, the 'make install' would mv the 
 >  kernel to kernel.old meaning it would be on the system regardless...
 
 Following the Guide, the content of <command> will be restricted to
 #PCDATA, Replaceable, or InlineGraphic in DocBook 4.0, leaving
 the first example.
 
 >  Anyone with more experiance wish to comment, maybe fill me in what to do 
 >  here ;)
 
 Further comments are welcome too.
 
 Martin
 
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Synopsis: type in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/article.sgml

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Fixed...thanks!

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If memory serves me right, Hiten Pandya wrote:

>  problem is resolved, as I have submitted a patch
>  as a followup to this PR.

I've fixed the typo.

I don't mean to degrade your efforts to improve our documentation, but
let me point out that in this particular case, it was easier for a
committer (me) to edit the file manually than to transfer the PR
containing the diff and run patch(1).

When a change spans multiple lines, and might involve moving words
around, *that's* when having the diff is more useful, because it reduces
the possibility of error when applying it.  For a case like that, a
follow-up patch can be quite helpful.

Thanks in any case!

>  A not-busy committer
>  will apply it soon ;)

Based on the committers I know, I'm convinced there's no such thing as a
"not-busy committer".  :-)

Bruce.



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>Number:         34624
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       /etc/protocols says crdup 127 instead of crudp 127
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
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>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon Feb 04 17:30:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     John Nielsen
>Release:        4.5-RELEASE
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD phoenix 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 29 02:16:18 MST 2002     john@phoenix:/usr/src/sys/compile/PHOENIX  i386
>Description:
      There is a typo on line 137 of /etc/protocols.  It says "crdup   127 CRUDP # Combat Radio User Datagram" whereas it should say "crudp   127 CRUDP # Combat Radio User Datagram" (see http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers)
>How-To-Repeat:
      n/a
>Fix:
      Change the string "crdup" to "crudp" on line 137 of /etc/protocols.
>Release-Note:
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
To: "John Nielsen" <oniblerz@attbi.com>
Cc: <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: typo in /etc/protocols?


> "John Nielsen" <oniblerz@attbi.com> writes:
>
> > [Please CC me on any replies, as I am not subscribed to this list]
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is the right list for this, but there appears to
be a
> > typo in /etc/protocols.  The line for protocol 127 reads like this:
> >   crdup 127 CRUDP # Combat Radio User Datagram
> >
> > Now I personally have never heard of (let alone used) this protocol,
but
> > it is listed on the IANA site as CRUDP.  So I assume that the 'crdup'
as
> > listed is a typo.  If someone could confirm this for me then I'll send
in
> > a pr.  And if this belongs to someone other than -doc, let me know
that as
> > well.
>
> Googled for "IANA CRDUP" and got 4 links. One FreeBSD and two Linux
> Mandrake and one I forget.  "IANA CRDUP" got 5 pages of links.  One
> showed the OpenBSD has "crudp 127..." and not "crdup 127...".  Check
> more if you'd like.

I submitted this as pr docs/34624.  Thanks all.
 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34624)

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>Number:         34626
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pages are still at year 2000
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
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>How-To-Repeat:
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Go to bottom of http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/cvs-all.html page
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>Fix:
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On 31-Jan-02 Makoto Matsushita wrote:
> 
> In src/release/Makefile revision 1.541, 'DOCDISTFILES' variable is
> introduced that points to a directory containing the distfiles to
> build the textproc/docproj during doc.1 target is processed.
> 
> However, ports is not used in doc stage in these days -- iso.1 target
> to create ISO image, requires sysutils/mkisofs.  It is natual that
> prefetching cdrtools tarball and copy it ${CHROOTDIR}/user/ports/distfiles
> prior to whole release procedure.
> 
> Yes, it can be easily done with 'DOCDISTFILES'.  But it is *not* doc
> related.  If all of you concerning doesn't matter, I want to change
> its variable name to something other appropriate name.
> 
> Attached below is a patch to rename this variable.  In this patch, I
> employ 'RELEASEDISTFILES' for a new candidate.  But I have no idea
> about this new name; if you want to name it, that's OK to me.
> 
> Any comments?

Sounds fine to me. :)  One thing that might be nice: since we sometimes systems
are unable to fetch their distfiles once they are in the chroot (not sure why,
but I've seen it happen), it might be nice to add a 'fetch-distfiles' target to
the release Makefile that fetches the appropriate distfiles (depending on
NODOC, NOPORTS, etc.) needed to finish the release.  Then somse of the nightly
release scripts could do a 'fetch-distfiles' prior to the actual release to
download any missing distfilfes.  Just an idea.

> -- -
> Makoto `MAR' Matsushita
> 
> Index: Makefile
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/release/Makefile,v
> retrieving revision 1.655
> diff -u -r1.655 Makefile
> --- Makefile  31 Jan 2002 00:38:09 -0000      1.655
> +++ Makefile  31 Jan 2002 00:58:28 -0000
> @@ -103,8 +103,8 @@
>  # by the RELNOTES_LANG variable above.
>  ALLLANG?=    yes
>  DOCPORTS=    textproc/docproj
> -# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by ${DOCPORTS} live.
> -DOCDISTFILES?=       ${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
> +# Set this to wherever the distfiles required by release procedures.
> +RELEASEDISTFILES?=   ${.CURDIR}/../../ports/distfiles
>  # Set this to 1 if you want -P to be used for automatic keyboard detection
>  # on the boot floppy.  WARNING: Breaks on some Athlon (K7) motherboards.
>  AUTO_KEYBOARD_DETECT?= 0
> @@ -298,8 +298,8 @@
>  .else
>       cd ${CHROOTDIR}/usr && rm -rf doc && cvs -R -d ${CVSROOT} co -P
> ${RELEASEDOCMODULE}
>  .endif
> -     if [ -d ${DOCDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
> -             cp -rp ${DOCDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
> +     if [ -d ${RELEASEDISTFILES}/ ]; then \
> +             cp -rp ${RELEASEDISTFILES} ${CHROOTDIR}/usr/ports/distfiles; \
>       fi
>  .endif
>  .endif

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34587; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
To: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34587: Adding Feedback on the issue
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 05:00:19 +0200

 On 2002-02-04 08:40, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 
 > <command>boot <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>
 >  
 > I just do not really agree with this line, should whitespace be in the 
 > actual tags, I think someone pointed out to me that no whitespace should 
 > exsist here.  Something better would be:
 >
 > <command>boot</command> <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable> or maybe
 > <command>boot</command> <filename>kernel.old</filename>
 
 
 The SGML markup is not a way to describe the 'format' of a document.
 It is though something we (as in 'we the SGML fans of the universe')
 use to denote the 'structure' of a document.
 
 If you convert the initial SGML to a tree-like structure you'll get:
 
 	(outter
 	  (command
 	    "boot"
 	    (whitespace)
 	    (replaceable "kernel.old")))
 
 The second one will be converted to:
 
 	(outter
 	  (command "boot")
 	  (whitespace)
 	  (replaceable "kernel.old"))
 
 The first rendering of the SGML entity clearly denotes that
 <replaceable> is a "part of <command>".
 
 What you suggest, looks a lot like what a user that reads the text on
 screen would do to mark up documents using a WYSIWIG editor.  But you
 can't tell the computer that the <replaceable> entity is a part of the
 <commmand> tag if you use this form of marking up documents.  Then you
 have lost part of the structural information that the original SGML
 markup shows :(
 
 Structure *is* important.  Imagine an SGML parser that will swallow
 the entire doc/ tree and look for complete <command> entities, and
 spit out a shell script that has ALL the examples of the docs, ready
 to be copy-pasted to a shell prompt.  If you break the structure of
 the entities, and <replaceable> is no longer a part of the original
 <command> tag, then there is no way for the tool I described to know
 where in the text of the document the parameters of the command are.
 
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Synopsis: Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Handbook needs to be updated.

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A -doc guy should take care of this.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34626; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
To: Munehiro Matsuda <haro@kubota.co.jp>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34626: Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pages are still at year 2000
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:21:52 +0000

 On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 05:47:10PM -0800, Munehiro Matsuda wrote:
 
 > Copyright year on mailing-list archive pages under the "Index of
 > /mail/current" still shows "1995-2000" 
 
 Isn't this something that should only be changed when something in the
 document changes ?
 
 A book I bought in 1995 shouldn't need to have the copyright statement
 updated just because it's now 2002, since the book hasn't changed.
 
 I'm not sure, that's just my feelings on this.
 
 Ceri
 

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Synopsis: Handbook documentation missing a step in Chapter 19.4.9

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Misfiled PR.

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Hello,

This may be inappropriate for this list, but I am not sure where else to 
ask and guess the people here at least know the options I have.

I'm writing a document which initially I've setup a copyright/license 
which is basically identical to what I've seen in various RFCs.  This is a 
document which I want to extend potentially to a wide audience.

I've been criticised for the current copyright and am looking at the 
alternatives: FDL being one and being if I'm not mistaken a GPL-style 
license tailored for documentation.

What type of license do FreeBSD users recommend for using with FreeBSD and 
what other options might be appropriate?

I'm don't want to start up a flame war, I simply don't know where to look 
for a document-licensing-howto so that I can compare the different terms 
and then decide which is right for me.

Thanks for any pointers regarding this subject.

Simon
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34626; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Munehiro Matsuda <haro@tt.kubota.co.jp>
To: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34626: Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pages are still at 
 year 2000
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 19:48:19 +0900

 Ceri wrote:
 > > Copyright year on mailing-list archive pages under the "Index of
 > > /mail/current" still shows "1995-2000"
 > 
 > Isn't this something that should only be changed when something in the
 > document changes ?
 > 
 > A book I bought in 1995 shouldn't need to have the copyright statement
 > updated just because it's now 2002, since the book hasn't changed.
 > 
 > I'm not sure, that's just my feelings on this.
 
 Well, the script that generates the mail archive pages may have not changed
 since 2000, but the contents it creats is updated every 10 minutes or so.
 (e.g. http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/cvs-all.html)
 
 I think created new contents may be the subject of updated copyright.
 
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On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:50:02AM -0800, Munehiro Matsuda wrote:
>  
>  Well, the script that generates the mail archive pages may have not changed
>  since 2000, but the contents it creats is updated every 10 minutes or so.

Sounds like a fair point ;)

Ceri

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Hi,
I'm trying to download the source for libgnugetopt to recompile it for Mac
OS X, but the sources link leads me to this list:

ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnugetop
t-1.1.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.se.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnuge
topt-1.1.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.jp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnuge
topt-1.1.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.uk.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnuge
topt-1.1.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.ru.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnuge
topt-1.1.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.nectec.or.th/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/%SUBDIR%/libgnugeto
pt-1.1.tar.gz

The %SUBDIR% doesn't seem to be getting parsed serverside or something, as
these links don't work (ftp error, can't change directory to %SUBDIR%)...or
have I made a mistake?
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Sam

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>Number:         34640
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       struct jail mangled in doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/jail/chapter.sgml
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>Description:
In the code showing struct jail the underscores from 'u_int32_t' were somehow replaced with dots and there's no indentation at all.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
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 struct jail {
-u.int32.t version; 
-char *path; 
-char *hostname; 
-u.int32.t ip.number;
+        u_int32_t       version;
+        char            *path;
+        char            *hostname;
+        u_int32_t       ip_number;
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[ All IMHO -- this should not be read as an 'official' stance on the=20
  license ]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 11:33:24AM +0100, Simon J Mudd wrote:
> What type of license do FreeBSD users recommend for using with FreeBSD an=
d=20
> what other options might be appropriate?

    http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ln16.html
=20
> I'm don't want to start up a flame war, I simply don't know where to look=
=20
> for a document-licensing-howto so that I can compare the different terms=
=20
> and then decide which is right for me.

The GNU project has the FDL:=20

    http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL

it also has

    http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#DocumentationLicenses

The LinuxDoc project has some info at:

    http://www.linuxdoc.org/manifesto.html

Personally, I think most of these licenses are a waste of time[1].  Many of
them try to bend over backwards to publishers because everyone's got the
meme that "One of the way to make money off open source is to write
books about it".  So you get all sorts of crap in things like the Open
Publication License about who can publish it, immutable front matter,
and so forth.

IMHO, people shouldn't try to weasel around making documentation 'almost
free'.  And the BSD license is, for me, the best expression of 'freedom'
-- almost public domain, but with disclaimed liability.

We (I) use the BSD license on the documentation because, IMHO the
documentation should be available under the same license as the code.  I
put "(I)" up there because this isn't something that's really been
discussed on this list.  IIRC for a long time there was no explicit
license on the docs (with the exception of man pages, most of which have
the BSD license on them).

When I did the LinuxDoc -> DocBook conversion I also put the license on
the converted files, which was the first license statement on the FAQ
and Handbook.  Other documents submitted by other people have followed
that trend.

But it's not something that's ever been discussed in detail on this
list, so there's no 'official' policy.

N

[1] Originally I wrote 'crock of shit' here :-)
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Simon J Mudd wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> This may be inappropriate for this list, but I am not sure where else to 
> ask and guess the people here at least know the options I have.
> 
> I'm writing a document which initially I've setup a copyright/license 
> which is basically identical to what I've seen in various RFCs.  This is a 
> document which I want to extend potentially to a wide audience.
> 
> I've been criticised for the current copyright and am looking at the 
> alternatives: FDL being one and being if I'm not mistaken a GPL-style 
> license tailored for documentation.
> 
> What type of license do FreeBSD users recommend for using with FreeBSD and 
> what other options might be appropriate?
> 
> I'm don't want to start up a flame war, I simply don't know where to look 
> for a document-licensing-howto so that I can compare the different terms 
> and then decide which is right for me.
> 
> Thanks for any pointers regarding this subject.
> 
> Simon
> 

Please point your browser over to:

http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/

and take a look at the various information that has been put up there, 
its a great resource for anyone in your 'spot'  I hope this helps, take 
care!

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Ceri wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:50:02AM -0800, Munehiro Matsuda wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Well, the script that generates the mail archive pages may have not changed
>> since 2000, but the contents it creats is updated every 10 minutes or so.
>>
> 
> Sounds like a fair point ;)
> 
> Ceri
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When can we make the change?  ;)

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34626; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Ceri <setantae@submonkey.net>
To: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
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 On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:45:53AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 > Ceri wrote:
 > 
 > >On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 02:50:02AM -0800, Munehiro Matsuda wrote:
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 > >>
 > >>Well, the script that generates the mail archive pages may have not 
 > >>changed
 > >>since 2000, but the contents it creats is updated every 10 minutes or so.
 > >>
 > >
 > >Sounds like a fair point ;)
 > >
 > 
 > When can we make the change?  ;)
 
 As soon as someone who knows what generates that page turns up.
 
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The problem described in section 3, System Update Information...
<< Certain OpenSSH clients, when attempting to connect to a FreeBSD
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... occurs also using PuTTY
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Hi Nik,

>     http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ln16.html
>     http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL
>     http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#DocumentationLicenses
>     http://www.linuxdoc.org/manifesto.html
> 
> But it's not something that's ever been discussed in detail on this
> list, so there's no 'official' policy.

OK. Your comments give me enough pointers for me to do a bit of homework
and see whether or not any one license is better for me than another.

Thanks for pointers.

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From: "Hiten Pandya" <hitmaster@mysun.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com
Subject: Re: docs/34038 (vote)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:11:12 GMT

 hi,
 
 I beleive this article is very good, and needs to be added to
 the FreeBSD Documentation Project.  It certainly helped a lot
 of my mates (friends) to solve their a.out problem. :)
 
 Hope it get's in ;)
 
 regards,
 Hiten Pandya
 <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 <hitmaster@mysun.com>
 
 

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>Number:         34644
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       [PATCH] Handbook chapter(s)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue Feb 05 10:40:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5 i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD localhost 4.5

>Description:
Cleaning out the pr-database, many prs and patches have
become obsolete due to to changes before/after their submission.  This
pr, other than fixing up a quick spell check, also closes several of these
prs.  Including:
pr: 33042
pr: 34622
pr: 34587
pr: 34578
pr: 34344
pr: 33937

and obsoletes pr: 17916 which is a kernel config chapter rewrite, I am currently
reviewing this pr along with pr: 33354 pr: 34074 and pr: 34524

>How-To-Repeat:
Read the handbook, view the doc pr database, and wish someone
would clean it up
>Fix:
Apply the following patch to the handbook directory (used diff -ru)





diff -ru handbook.old/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.old/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:17:58 2002
+++ handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:52:44 2002
@@ -4473,7 +4473,10 @@
       <para>
         It is a good idea to subscribe to <ulink 
         url="http://www.cert.org/">CERT</ulink> and
-        <ulink url="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-announce</ulink>
+        <ulink url="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL">freebsd-security</ulink>
+        of if you are an extremely busy administrator or use, you may wish
+        to check out the
+        <ulink url="../handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-EMAIL">freebsd-announce</ulink>
         to stay up to date with the current Internet and FreeBSD security 
         issues.
       </para>
diff -ru handbook.old/config/chapter.sgml handbook/config/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.old/config/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:17:57 2002
+++ handbook/config/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 12:13:26 2002
@@ -1156,44 +1156,51 @@
 	<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>.  You can use any name you
 	want, of course.</para>
 
-      <para>First, be certain that your kernel configuration includes
-	the vnode driver.  It is not in recent versions of
-	GENERIC.</para>
-
-      <programlisting>pseudo-device   vn 1   #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)</programlisting>
+      <example>
+        <title>Creating a Swapfile</title>
 
       <orderedlist>
+        <listitem>
+          <para>Be certain that your kernel configuration includes
+            the vnode driver.  It is <emphasis>not</emphasis> in recent versions of
+            <filename>GENERIC</filename>.</para>
+
+          <programlisting>pseudo-device   vn 1   #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device)</programlisting>
+        </listitem>
+
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>create a vn-device</para>
+	  <para>create a vn-device:</para>
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /dev</userinput> &prompt.root; <userinput>sh MAKEDEV vn0</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>create a swapfile (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>)</para>
+	  <para>create a swapfile (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>):</para>
 
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>dd if=/dev/zero of=/usr/swap0 bs=1024k count=64</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>set proper permissions on (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>)</para>
+	  <para>set proper permissions on (<filename>/usr/swap0</filename>):</para>
 
 	  <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>chmod 0600 /usr/swap0</userinput></screen>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>enable the swap file in <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename></para>
+	  <para>enable the swap file in <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>:</para>
 
 	  <programlisting>swapfile="/usr/swap0"   # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired.</programlisting>
 	</listitem>
 
 	<listitem>
-	  <para>reboot the machine</para>
-	</listitem>
-      </orderedlist>
 
-      <para>To enable the swap file immediately, type</para>
+          <para>Reboot the machine or to enable the swap file immediately,
+            type:</para>
+
+          <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>vnconfig -e /dev/vn0b /usr/swap0 swap</userinput></screen>
+        </listitem>
+      </orderedlist>
 
-      <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>vnconfig -e /dev/vn0b /usr/swap0 swap</userinput></screen>
+      </example>
     </sect2>
   </sect1>
 </chapter>
diff -ru handbook.old/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.old/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:17:58 2002
+++ handbook/cutting-edge/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 12:23:31 2002
@@ -758,6 +758,19 @@
       <para>This checks the filesystems, remounts <filename>/</filename>
 	read/write, mounts all the other UFS filesystems referenced in
 	<filename>/etc/fstab</filename> and then turns swapping on.</para>
+
+
+        <note>
+          <para>If your CMOS clock is set to local time and not to GMT,
+            you may also need to run the following command:</para>
+<screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>adjkerntz -i</userinput></screen>
+
+          <para>This will make sure that your local timezone settings
+            get set up correctly - without this, you may later run into some
+            problems.
+          </para>
+        </note>
+
     </sect2>
 
     <sect2>
@@ -1009,7 +1022,8 @@
 	<maketarget>installworld</maketarget> to install the new system
 	binaries.</para>
 
-      <para>Run</para>
+      <para>Be sure that you are in the <filename>/usr/src</filename>
+        directory, if not, &man.cd.1; there now and run:</para>
 
       <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>make installworld</userinput></screen>
 
diff -ru handbook.old/install/chapter.sgml handbook/install/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.old/install/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:17:59 2002
+++ handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:24:26 2002
@@ -2190,10 +2190,10 @@
 
 	      <entry><filename>/</filename></entry>
 
-	      <entry>64MB</entry>
+	      <entry>100MB</entry>
 
 	      <entry>This is the root file system.  Every other filesystem
-		will be mounted somewhere under this one.  64MB is a
+		will be mounted somewhere under this one.  100MB is a
 		reasonable size for this filesystem.  You will not be storing
 		too much data on it, as a regular FreeBSD install will put
 		about 40MB of data here.  The remaining space is for temporary
@@ -4515,6 +4515,11 @@
 	has been issued and the message "Please press any key to reboot"
 	appears. If any key is pressed instead of turning off the power
 	switch, the system will reboot.</para>
+
+      <para>You could also use the <keycap>CTRL+ALT+DEL</keycap> key
+        combination to reboot the system, however this is not recommended
+        during normal operation.</para>
+
     </sect2>
   </sect1>
 
diff -ru handbook.old/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.old/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:18:00 2002
+++ handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml	Tue Feb  5 11:42:05 2002
@@ -616,7 +616,7 @@
     <programlisting>options          SOFTUPDATES  #Enable FFS soft updates support</programlisting>
 
     <para>This option enables soft updates in the kernel, this will help speed
-      up write access on the disks.  They enabled by default in the 4.X branch
+      up write access on the disks.  They are enabled by default in the 4.X branch
       but may not be turned on.  Review the output from &man.mount.8; to see
       if you have them enabled.  If you do not see the soft-updates option then
       you will need to activate it using the &man.tunefs.8; or &man.newfs.8;
@@ -1318,7 +1318,7 @@
 	    counts down from 10.  Hit any key except for the
             <keycap>enter</keycap> key, type <command>unload</command>
             and then type
-	    <command>boot<replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>,
+	    <command>boot <replaceable>kernel.old</replaceable></command>,
             or the filename of any other kernel that will boot properly.
             When reconfiguring a kernel, it is always a good idea to keep
             a kernel that is known to work on hand.</para>
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 10:12  AM, Simon J Mudd wrote:
> OK. Your comments give me enough pointers for me to do a bit of homework
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Not FreeBSD specific, but if you are taking the time to research 
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http://www.opensource.apple.com/cdl/

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Synopsis: [PATCH] Handbook chapter(s)

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I'll take this.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34644

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Committed...thanks!

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34038; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>
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Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 22:06:07 +0100

 On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 10:20:02AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote:
 >  I beleive this article is very good, and needs to be added to
 >  the FreeBSD Documentation Project.  It certainly helped a lot
 >  of my mates (friends) to solve their a.out problem. :)
 
 Hello,
 
 I think that instead of pushing this submission, please provide some
 justification *why* this article should go in.
 
 I have just looked over it (which was not exactly made easier by the
 submitter who uuencoded *and* tar gzipped the article, which is IMHO
 quite gross for a single text file) and I see not a lot of info there
 that is not yet in various parts of the Handbook. In some cases, the
 info in the article is less accurate than the Handbook, which eg
 describes anon FTP and CTM in detail. Also, the text has some incorrect
 statements. Eg: mergemaster(8) is not a bash script. There are no bash
 scripts in the base system. Also, it says that cvsup needs bandwidth.
 While it is true that it will not hurt, in my experience daily cvsup
 runs took almost exactly the same amount of time over the 10Mbps link at
 university and over a 56kbps modem link. 
 
 Also, I think you should be careful when describing the a.out -> elf
 migration path. It was a special case and is probably more trouble than
 just running "make upgrade" and "make aout-to-elf". The mailing list
 archives from the time when 3.0 was new should be consulted to see any
 pitfalls. Also, I think it does not work as easily as described, ie you
 cannot simply take the latest STABLE code and upgrade to it from 2.2.x
 using source upgrade. Instead, once somebody described the process like
 this (after doing it himself)
 
 - First, upgrade to the latest 2.2.8-STABLE.
 - Do the upgrade to 3.0 using the a.out -> elf migration path and
   looking at the mailing list archives.
 - Upgrade to the latest 3.x-STABLE (which is something like 3.5.1-STABLE
   now)
 - Upgrade to 4.0 or 4.1 perhaps.
 - Upgrade to the latest 4.x-STABLE.
 
 Yes, it is quite difficult, simply reinstalling from CD or FTP is
 probably easier. Merging /etc would be very difficult too. Not to
 mention /dev and the fact that you have to recompile many software
 packages from third-party source.
 
 The gist: Although cutting corners might work once or twice, the source
 upgrade path is actually only for those who are quite good at what they
 do and even then you should follow the guidelines.
 
 The text also has stylistic and spelling errors/typos.
 
 Please, before answering, look over the existing documentation set (incl
 Handbook, FAQ, etc) and say what information this article has that is
 not in one of the existing docs already. If you find any of them lacking
 please consider submitting patches there, first.
 
 P.S.: It is easy to loose track of what is already in the docs, because
 there so much of it already:-) Eg I just planned to sit down and write a
 document about how to connect your FreeBSD box via DSL, but looked in
 the Handbook first and found it is already there:-)
 
 P.P.S: This is not to discourage anyone from writing more howto-like docs
 for users who prefer that. But duplication within the FDP should be
 avoided. Such howtos should be then made available somewhere else.
 
 Hope this message will not be considered flame because it was not the
 intention.
 
 -- 
 Regards:
 
 Szilveszter ADAM
 Szombathely Hungary

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I've committed the updated man page to -current, will MFC in a few days.

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From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>,
	FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org,
	Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: docs/34038
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 17:10:37 -0500

 I am going to defend the hours of work I did on this document...
 
 Szilveszter Adam wrote:
 
   
 >  Hello,
 >  
 >  I think that instead of pushing this submission, please provide some
 >  justification *why* this article should go in.
 
 
 Okie, may I do this though?  I hope as the author my reasons will be as 
 worthwhile has his!
 
 
 >  
 >  I have just looked over it (which was not exactly made easier by the
 >  submitter who uuencoded *and* tar gzipped the article, which is IMHO
 >  quite gross for a single text file) and I see not a lot of info there
 >  that is not yet in various parts of the Handbook.
 
 
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj
 
 and I wish to point out Nik Clayton's document suggestion method: tar, 
 gzip, uuencode.  For more information about submitting documentation for 
 the Docproj, please see the docproj webpage about submitting 
 documentation located at:
 http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html
 I know thats kinda cut short, but in essance sums up the uuencode and 
 the gzip.  Many people have submitted uuencoded zipped files and have 
 had ABSOLUTLY no problems.
 
 > In some cases, the
 >  info in the article is less accurate than the Handbook, which eg
 >  describes anon FTP and CTM in detail. Also, the text has some incorrect
 >  statements. Eg: mergemaster(8) is not a bash script.
 
 
  From the mergemaster(8) man page, under DESCRIPTION, and an exact quote:
 "mergemaster is a Bourne shell script which is designed to aid you in 
 updating the various configuration and other files associated with FreeBSD."
 
 If in some point and time, bash and Bourne again somehow demerged, I 
 think that many universities, companies, oganizations, and other 
 entities are very miss informed...
 
 > There are no bash
 >  scripts in the base system. 
 
 
 See my above statement... I'm almost positive that mergemaster(8) is in 
 the base system.
 
 >  Also, it says that cvsup needs bandwidth.
 >  While it is true that it will not hurt, in my experience daily cvsup
 >  runs took almost exactly the same amount of time over the 10Mbps link at
 >  university and over a 56kbps modem link.
 
 
  From the handbook: CTM uses a push method, cvsup uses a pull method, so 
 its obvious that CTM is more friendly on the server bandwidth...
 
 If this statement is incorrect, instead of saying my document is wrong, 
 tell us the handbook is wrong also so that we can fix it, don't just 
 point a finger at one entity please
 
  
 >  
 >  Also, I think you should be careful when describing the a.out -> elf
 >  migration path. It was a special case and is probably more trouble than
 >  just running "make upgrade" and "make aout-to-elf". The mailing list
 >  archives from the time when 3.0 was new should be consulted to see any
 >  pitfalls. Also, I think it does not work as easily as described, ie you
 >  cannot simply take the latest STABLE code and upgrade to it from 2.2.x
 >  using source upgrade. Instead, once somebody described the process like
 >  this (after doing it himself)
 
 
 I actually tested this on a 2.2.5 cd that came with an older version of 
 "The Complete FreeBSD" written by core member Greg Lehey, took some of 
 the information from /usr/src/Makefile, and even read over various 
 materials associated with my project.  I even went as far, as to read 
 over Greg's methods and information... and talked with a few developers 
 on the issue.
 
 
 >  
 >  - First, upgrade to the latest 2.2.8-STABLE.
 >  - Do the upgrade to 3.0 using the a.out -> elf migration path and
 >    looking at the mailing list archives.
 >  - Upgrade to the latest 3.x-STABLE (which is something like 3.5.1-STABLE
 >    now)
 >  - Upgrade to 4.0 or 4.1 perhaps.
 >  - Upgrade to the latest 4.x-STABLE.
 >  
 >  Yes, it is quite difficult, simply reinstalling from CD or FTP is
 >  probably easier. Merging /etc would be very difficult too. Not to
 >  mention /dev and the fact that you have to recompile many software
 >  packages from third-party source.
 
 
 During the upgrade process of the SOFTWARE, a few ports still used the 
 a.out method, this was during a time that the a.out > ELF transision was 
 in progress.  Now that FreeBSD is ELF, and the ports have been cleaned 
 up, I see no reason for all this trouble when *I* had none
 
 
 >  
 >  The gist: Although cutting corners might work once or twice, the source
 >  upgrade path is actually only for those who are quite good at what they
 >  do and even then you should follow the guidelines.
 >  
 >  The text also has stylistic and spelling errors/typos.
 
 
 Maybe aspell didn't do its job as well as I thought it would, I have 
 been meaning to add information on libraries and other things, maybe 
 i'll take another look at it, if your correct on that notion, then its 
 an admitted mistake...
 
 
 >  
 >  Please, before answering, look over the existing documentation set (incl
 >  Handbook, FAQ, etc) and say what information this article has that is
 >  not in one of the existing docs already. If you find any of them lacking
 >  please consider submitting patches there, first.
 
 
 Umm, the Handbook is where I obtained most of my refs, and I will agree 
 that the handbook lacks upgrading information, but it is one of the 
 things on my to do list.  Unfortunatly, like many, I also lack many free 
 hours that could be put to better use.
 
 
 >  
 
 
 In either case, thanks for at least taking a look over the document in 
 the first place, at least I know someone read over it ;)  For more refs 
 of where I got my information I suggest "The Complete FreeBSD" by Greg 
 Lehey.  The various written information in the source, the FreeBSD 
 Handbook, and the various system man pages.  Thanks alot!!
 
 
 
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From: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34038
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:40:05 +0100

 Hello,
 
 On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:10:37PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 > I am going to defend the hours of work I did on this document...
 
 Understandable:-)
 
 > Okie, may I do this though?  I hope as the author my reasons will be as 
 > worthwhile has his!
 
 Sure! I read your mail with great interest!
 
 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj
 > 
 > and I wish to point out Nik Clayton's document suggestion method: tar, 
 > gzip, uuencode.  For more information about submitting documentation for 
 > the Docproj, please see the docproj webpage about submitting 
 > documentation located at:
 > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html
 > I know thats kinda cut short, but in essance sums up the uuencode and 
 > the gzip.  Many people have submitted uuencoded zipped files and have 
 > had ABSOLUTLY no problems.
 
 OK I take it back then. (Sigh) I still think that tar-ing a single file
 is overkill, simply uuencoding it would have even preserved the indent,
 but since it is not a patch, even that is not that important. I was just
 thinking along the line: Make it easy for me to deal with it without
 going over a lot of steps to decode it first. But if it is in the docs,
 I shall shut up:-)
 
 > From the mergemaster(8) man page, under DESCRIPTION, and an exact quote:
 > "mergemaster is a Bourne shell script which is designed to aid you in 
 > updating the various configuration and other files associated with FreeBSD."
 > 
 > If in some point and time, bash and Bourne again somehow demerged, I 
 > think that many universities, companies, oganizations, and other 
 > entities are very miss informed...
 
 <...>
 
 > See my above statement... I'm almost positive that mergemaster(8) is in 
 > the base system.
 
 Well, this seems like a case of "miss informed" (sic!) statement then. The
 Bourne shell is not bash. Bash is the Bourne *Again* Shell. The confusion
 is even made bigger by the fact that many Linux distros simply symlink
 sh to bash. But our /bin/sh is not bash, I can tell you.
 
 > From the handbook: CTM uses a push method, cvsup uses a pull method, so 
 > its obvious that CTM is more friendly on the server bandwidth...
 
 You are correct but I do not talk about the server side. When you
 upgrade your system, you are just using the server. I was talking about
 the client side, as I assume you were too in the article.
 
 > I actually tested this on a 2.2.5 cd that came with an older version of 
 > "The Complete FreeBSD" written by core member Greg Lehey, took some of 
 > the information from /usr/src/Makefile, and even read over various 
 > materials associated with my project.  I even went as far, as to read 
 > over Greg's methods and information... and talked with a few developers 
 > on the issue.
 
 Well if you did test this then I apologise. I still think that it is not
 the "supported" method though, there were times when you could not
 upgrade even from 3.4 to say 4.2 via "make world" without first going
 through 3.x->3.5.1-STABLE->4.0->4.2. It was discussed several times on
 the mailing lists that if it works otherwise OK but if you have
 problems, always try this way before complaining. I think docs should be
 "safe" and document only the supported methods.
 
 > Umm, the Handbook is where I obtained most of my refs, and I will agree 
 > that the handbook lacks upgrading information, but it is one of the 
 > things on my to do list.  Unfortunatly, like many, I also lack many free 
 > hours that could be put to better use.
 
 I think we have a misunderstanding here. I think that the Handbook very
 much has info on upgrading, although it probably could be improved. But
 this article does not add much to what is already in the Handbook. If
 you read the various chapters on installation, on obtaining FreeBSD, on
 staying up to date with FreeBSD under "The Cutting Edge", and on using make
 world in the same chapter, you will see that almost all is there
 already, including stuff you did not describe like CTM, only the "make
 upgrade" part is missing. Of course it is nice that you have it now in
 one article instead of all over the Handbook, but it is still IMHO
 duplication. That is why it is IMHO better idea to just patch the
 existing Handbook... also, as I said, some people may prefer shorter
 tutorials instead of the Handbook but that is a different story.
 
 -- 
 Regards:
 
 Szilveszter ADAM
 Szombathely Hungary

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From: Tom Rhodes <darklogik@pittgoth.com>
To: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>,
	FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc:  
Subject: Re: docs/34038
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 18:08:48 -0500

 Szilveszter Adam wrote:
 
 > The following reply was made to PR docs/34038; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu>
 > To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
 > Cc:  
 > Subject: Re: docs/34038
 > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:40:05 +0100
 > 
 >  Hello,
 >  
 >  On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:10:37PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote:
 >  > I am going to defend the hours of work I did on this document...
 >  
 >  Understandable:-)
 >  
 >  > Okie, may I do this though?  I hope as the author my reasons will be as 
 >  > worthwhile has his!
 >  
 >  Sure! I read your mail with great interest!
 >  
 >  > http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj
 >  > 
 >  > and I wish to point out Nik Clayton's document suggestion method: tar, 
 >  > gzip, uuencode.  For more information about submitting documentation for 
 >  > the Docproj, please see the docproj webpage about submitting 
 >  > documentation located at:
 >  > http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/submitting.html
 >  > I know thats kinda cut short, but in essance sums up the uuencode and 
 >  > the gzip.  Many people have submitted uuencoded zipped files and have 
 >  > had ABSOLUTLY no problems.
 >  
 >  OK I take it back then. (Sigh) I still think that tar-ing a single file
 >  is overkill, simply uuencoding it would have even preserved the indent,
 >  but since it is not a patch, even that is not that important. I was just
 >  thinking along the line: Make it easy for me to deal with it without
 >  going over a lot of steps to decode it first. But if it is in the docs,
 >  I shall shut up:-)
 
 
 Perhaps would have been easier, but I felt it may have been more 
 approprate ;)
 
 
 >  
 >  > From the mergemaster(8) man page, under DESCRIPTION, and an exact quote:
 >  > "mergemaster is a Bourne shell script which is designed to aid you in 
 >  > updating the various configuration and other files associated with FreeBSD."
 >  > 
 >  > If in some point and time, bash and Bourne again somehow demerged, I 
 >  > think that many universities, companies, oganizations, and other 
 >  > entities are very miss informed...
 >  
 >  <...>
 >  
 >  > See my above statement... I'm almost positive that mergemaster(8) is in 
 >  > the base system.
 >  
 >  Well, this seems like a case of "miss informed" (sic!) statement then. The
 >  Bourne shell is not bash. Bash is the Bourne *Again* Shell. The confusion
 >  is even made bigger by the fact that many Linux distros simply symlink
 >  sh to bash. But our /bin/sh is not bash, I can tell you.
 
 
 Then we should s/bash/Bourne/ as it is listed as a "Bourne shell script" 
 in the manual page.  So changing it to Bourne is not a hassle, the main 
 point I think is that its still a shell script lol, and I didn't want to 
 frighten anyone with "oh no, large merging program/process"  :)
 
 
 >  
 >  > From the handbook: CTM uses a push method, cvsup uses a pull method, so 
 >  > its obvious that CTM is more friendly on the server bandwidth...
 >  
 >  You are correct but I do not talk about the server side. When you
 >  upgrade your system, you are just using the server. I was talking about
 >  the client side, as I assume you were too in the article.
 
 
 I tried to cover "both" lol
 
 
 >  
 >  > I actually tested this on a 2.2.5 cd that came with an older version of 
 >  > "The Complete FreeBSD" written by core member Greg Lehey, took some of 
 >  > the information from /usr/src/Makefile, and even read over various 
 >  > materials associated with my project.  I even went as far, as to read 
 >  > over Greg's methods and information... and talked with a few developers 
 >  > on the issue.
 >  
 >  Well if you did test this then I apologise. I still think that it is not
 >  the "supported" method though, there were times when you could not
 >  upgrade even from 3.4 to say 4.2 via "make world" without first going
 >  through 3.x->3.5.1-STABLE->4.0->4.2. It was discussed several times on
 >  the mailing lists that if it works otherwise OK but if you have
 >  problems, always try this way before complaining. I think docs should be
 >  "safe" and document only the supported methods.
 
 
 Could go into the "if it fails" method ;)
 
 
 >  
 >  > Umm, the Handbook is where I obtained most of my refs, and I will agree 
 >  > that the handbook lacks upgrading information, but it is one of the 
 >  > things on my to do list.  Unfortunatly, like many, I also lack many free 
 >  > hours that could be put to better use.
 >  
 >  I think we have a misunderstanding here. I think that the Handbook very
 >  much has info on upgrading, although it probably could be improved. But
 >  this article does not add much to what is already in the Handbook. If
 >  you read the various chapters on installation, on obtaining FreeBSD, on
 >  staying up to date with FreeBSD under "The Cutting Edge", and on using make
 >  world in the same chapter, you will see that almost all is there
 >  already, including stuff you did not describe like CTM, only the "make
 >  upgrade" part is missing. Of course it is nice that you have it now in
 >  one article instead of all over the Handbook, but it is still IMHO
 >  duplication. That is why it is IMHO better idea to just patch the
 >  existing Handbook... also, as I said, some people may prefer shorter
 >  tutorials instead of the Handbook but that is a different story.
 
 
 Truely, but scattered about, and in no way a real "step by step" 
 walkthrough, and it does not cover what to do in an a.out situation.  It 
 is also a listed project on the docproj webpage, my attempt was to clean 
 up the current projects.  Also, I never covered CTM as we need the 
 entire source, when I FTP to the CTM directory, the readme tells me that 
 its no longer supported.  Emailing the developer (Kemp) got me a reply 
 very similar.  Large attempts were made NOT to duplicate information, 
 even to the point of taking a few things deeper than I figured required. 
   Since I wrote this though, I have submitted chunchs of information 
 about cvsup and other upgrade parts to the handbook, which I think has 
 maybe helped that along.
 
 
 Enjoy,
 
 
 -- 
 Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes
 www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front
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From: Hiten Pandya <hitmaster2k@yahoo.com>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Cc: darklogik@pittgoth.com, sziszi@bsd.hu
Subject: Re: docs/34038
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 15:16:55 -0800 (PST)

 --- Szilveszter Adam <sziszi@bsd.hu> wrote:
 >  I think we have a misunderstanding here. I think that the Handbook very
 >  much has info on upgrading, although it probably could be improved. But
 >  this article does not add much to what is already in the Handbook. If
 >  you read the various chapters on installation, on obtaining FreeBSD, on
 >  staying up to date with FreeBSD under "The Cutting Edge", and on using
 > make
  
 > That is why it is IMHO better idea to just patch the existing Handbook...
  
 I don't mean to be against what you say Szilveszter, but I think it would
 be nice to have this as a different article, and it would also be nice to
 patch the relevant sections in the Handbook as well. :)
  
 The other thing is , that, It wouldn't be a good example, to reject this
 article just because it is a duplication, and also, it would serve as a bad
 example for future developers, and -doc writers for FreeBSD; This is how I
 see it ;)
  
 regards,
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From: Hiten Pandya <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, nielsenj@cs.byu.edu
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Subject: Re: docs/34624: /etc/protocols says crdup 127 instead of crudp 127
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 23:38:54 +0000

 thanks John, :)
 
 I have made a patch, which will be committed soon.  I checked
 this with IANA (http://www.iana.org/assignments/protocol-numbers),
 as well as the NetBSD CVS Repo, just in case.
 
 thanks,
   --Hiten Pandya
   --<hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
 
 --- protocols	Mon Oct 15 19:01:30 2001
 +++ protocols.new	Tue Feb  5 18:37:58 2002
 @@ -134,7 +134,7 @@
  isis	124	ISIS		# ISIS over IPv4
  fire	125	FIRE
  crtp	126	CRTP		# Combat Radio Transport Protocol
 -crdup	127	CRUDP		# Combat Radio User Datagram
 +crudp	127	CRUDP		# Combat Radio User Datagram
  sscopmce	128	SSCOPMCE
  iplt	129	IPLT
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Szilveszter Adam wrote:

SA>  I think we have a misunderstanding here. I think that the Handbook ver=
y
SA>  much has info on upgrading, although it probably could be improved. Bu=
t
SA>  this article does not add much to what is already in the Handbook.

It adds a coherent methodolody in one defined place.  If someone were to
come to you and ask 'I've been running FreeBSD 2.x.x for a while now
and I feel like upgrading to -STABLE...how do I do it?' would you rather
say 'read these 10 chapters of the handbook...they all contain bits of
relevant information' or would you rather say 'read the article which
describes exactly how to do this?'  As a person who might once have asked
such a question I know which answer I would rather have received.

SA>  Of course it is nice that you have it now in one article instead of
SA>  all over the Handbook, but it is still IMHO duplication.

It's duplication but of a specific kind which is not only tolerated but
encouraged by the FDP.  The Handbook exists as an OS-specific set of
instructions on Installing, Configuring and Maintaining FreeBSD.  The
articles exist as a HowTo-style set of task-specific instructions to
enable people to get a job done when they know what they want to do but
don't necessarily know what will be involved in doing that task.
Straight duplication would be if someone took a chapter of the handbook
(i.e.  sound) padded it out with a few inane phrases and passed it off as
an article.  If anyone did this I have no doubt they would be verbally
crucified before they could say 'ooops'.

SA>  That is why it is IMHO better idea to just patch the
SA>  existing Handbook...

If the information in the Handbook is wrong or deficient then by all means
point this out and someone will endeavour to correct and/or enhance it.
This does not mean that we should stop writing articles purely because the
contents of the article are available as small parts of ten chapters of
the handbook.

I personally don't see these complaints as valid but obviously you do.
Please bear in mind that not everyone has the same knowledge as you and
not everyone approaches problems in the same way that you do.  Some will
prefer the handbook and some will prefer articles.  The existence of one
group need not be to the detriment of the other.

Just my =A30.02

--=20
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>Number:         34654
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Update UIDs for porters handbook
>Confidential:   no
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>Arrival-Date:   Tue Feb 05 22:00:03 PST 2002
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>Description:
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Index: en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml,v
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On 2002-02-01 17:47:19 -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> We've had more complaints about seemingly missing images.  The appended 
> typescript may be of interest.
> 
> Is there something wrong with the doc toolchain on freefall?

Fixed. -Wolfram

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On 2002-01-30 10:26:24 -0800, Murray Stokely wrote:
>   Hmm... The 'ps2epsi' script installed on freefall is not being run
> with the /usr/local/bin set in the PATH.  It seems to me that we
> should run this script with /usr/local/bin in the PATH.  The
> alternative of adding 'env PATH=/usr/local/bin /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi'
> into the makefile seems much uglier.
> 
>   Can someone please add this?

Done. -Wolfram

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>Number:         34656
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       outdated "Who is Responsible for What" list in handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Feb 06 02:50:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     wolfram schneider
>Release:        
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
      The "Who is Responsible for What" list on the page
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-who.html
is not up to date. At least the entries for Release Coordinator, 
Security Officer, and Ports Manager. 

IMHO, we should remove the 'boot blocks' and 'boot loader' section.

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>Number:         34657
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       outdated "The FreeBSD Core Team" in handbook
>Confidential:   no
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>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Arrival-Date:   Wed Feb 06 03:00:02 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
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>Originator:     wolfram schneider
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Synopsis: Handbook documentation missing a step in Chapter 19.4.9

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Committed, thanks!

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Synopsis: Missing images in vm-design article

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The images are now working.

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Synopsis: Mis-reference in DNS chapter [patch]

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State-Changed-By: chern
State-Changed-When: Wed Feb 6 03:05:05 PST 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
-security-notifications would be the most ideal list here,
although -announce is also sent the advisories.

Committed this change, thanks!

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34578

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34657; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Tom Hukins <tom@FreeBSD.org>
To: wolfram schneider <wosch@freebsd.org>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34657: outdated "The FreeBSD Core Team" in handbook
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 11:58:19 +0000

 On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:52:43AM -0800, wolfram schneider wrote:
 > 
 > The "The FreeBSD Core Team" list on the page
 > http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-core.html
 > is not up to date. Satoshi Asami <asami@FreeBSD.org> is no longer a
 > member of the core team.
 
 As well as removing asami from the list of core members, he should be
 added to the core team alumni.
 
 In addition, the "Who is Responsible for What" section of this
 document should be updated.  The "Ports Manager" role is now managed
 by portsmgr.
 
 Tom

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Hi,

Recently I tried to refer to the -hubs mailing list in a little
unrelated patch, and I found out that mailing-lists.ent does not
even *have* an entity for -hubs! :)  So here comes a patch to add
all the lists that it is missing (taken from /g/majordomo.lists/
on hub.FreeBSD.org).

Also attached is a patch to the Handbook's eresources section
which adds four new mailing lists and moves -security and
-security-notifications from the Technical to the General lists.
Why, indeed, were those two under Technical?  IMHO, they *are*
of interest to the general public..

G'luck,
Peter

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What would this sentence be like if it weren't self-referential?

Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.76
diff -u -r1.76 chapter.sgml
--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml	24 Dec 2001 15:16:20 -0000	1.76
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml	6 Feb 2002 12:03:27 -0000
@@ -133,6 +133,16 @@
 	    </row>
 	    
 	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-security</entry>
+	      <entry>Security issues</entry>
+	    </row>
+	    
+	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-security-notifications</entry>
+	      <entry>Security notifications</entry>
+	    </row>
+	    
+	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-stable</entry>
 	      <entry>Discussion concerning the use of
 		FreeBSD-stable</entry>
@@ -168,6 +178,11 @@
 	    </row>
 	    
 	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-aic7xxx</entry>
+	      <entry>Developing drivers for the Adaptec AIC 7xxx</entry>
+	    </row>
+	    
+	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-alpha</entry>
 	      <entry>Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha</entry>
 	    </row>
@@ -226,6 +241,11 @@
 	    </row>
 		
 	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-gnome</entry>
+	      <entry>Porting GNOME and GNOME applications</entry>
+	    </row>
+		
+	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-hackers</entry>
 	      <entry>General technical discussion</entry>
 	    </row>
@@ -264,6 +284,11 @@
 	    </row>
 	    
 	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-lfs</entry>
+	      <entry>Porting LFS to FreeBSD</entry>
+	    </row>
+	    
+	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-libh</entry>
 	      <entry>The second generation installation and package
 	         system</entry>
@@ -326,16 +351,6 @@
 	    </row>
 	    
 	    <row>
-	      <entry>freebsd-security</entry>
-	      <entry>Security issues</entry>
-	    </row>
-	    
-	    <row>
-	      <entry>freebsd-security-notifications</entry>
-	      <entry>Security notifications</entry>
-	    </row>
-	    
-	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-small</entry>
 	      <entry>Using FreeBSD in embedded applications</entry>
 	    </row>
@@ -400,6 +415,11 @@
 	    <row>
 	      <entry>freebsd-user-groups</entry>
 	      <entry>User group coordination</entry>
+	    </row>
+
+	    <row>
+	      <entry>freebsd-vendors</entry>
+	      <entry>Vendors pre-release coordination</entry>
 	    </row>
 
 	    <row>
Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 mailing-lists.ent
--- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent	21 Jun 2001 03:38:17 -0000	1.1
+++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mailing-lists.ent	6 Feb 2002 11:57:40 -0000
@@ -7,18 +7,48 @@
 <!ENTITY a.advocacy "FreeBSD advocacy mailing list
   <email>freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.afs "FreeBSD AFS porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-afs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.aic7xxx "FreeBSD Adaptec AIC7xxx discussions mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-aic7xxx@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.alpha "FreeBSD Alpha porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.announce "FreeBSD announcements mailing list
   <email>freebsd-announce@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.arch "FreeBSD architecture and design mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.arm "FreeBSD ARM porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.atm "FreeBSD ATM networking mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-atm@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.audit "FreeBSD source code audit mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-audit@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.binup "FreeBSD binary update system mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-binup@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.bugs "FreeBSD problem reports mailing list
   <email>freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
 <!ENTITY a.chat "FreeBSD chat mailing list
   <email>freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.cluster "FreeBSD clustering mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.committers "FreeBSD committer's mailing list
   <email>cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.config "FreeBSD installation and configuration tools mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-config@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.core "FreeBSD core team
   <email>freebsd-core@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
@@ -40,15 +70,36 @@
 <!ENTITY a.emulation "FreeBSD-emulation mailing list
   <email>freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.firewire "FreeBSD FireWire (IEEE 1394) discussion mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.fs "FreeBSD filesystem project mailing list
   <email>freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.gnome "FreeBSD GNOME and GNOME applications mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.hackers "FreeBSD technical discussions mailing list
   <email>freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
 <!ENTITY a.hardware "FreeBSD hardware and equipment mailing list
   <email>freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.hubs "FreeBSD mirror sites mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.i18n "FreeBSD internationalization mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.ia64 "FreeBSD IA64 porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-ia64n@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.install "FreeBSD installation development mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-install@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.ipfw "FreeBSD IPFW code mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.isdn "FreeBSD ISDN mailing list
   <email>freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
@@ -61,6 +112,12 @@
 <!ENTITY a.jobs "FreeBSD related employment mailing list
   <email>freebsd-jobs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.lfs "FreeBSD LFS porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-lfs@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.libh "FreeBSD libh installation and packaging system mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-libh@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.mobile "FreeBSD laptop computer mailing list
   <email>freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
@@ -79,12 +136,27 @@
 <!ENTITY a.newbus "New Bus Architecture mailing list
   <email>new-bus-arch@bostonradio.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.platforms "FreeBSD non-Intel platforms porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-platforms@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.policy "FreeBSD core team policy decisions mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-policy@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.ports "FreeBSD ports mailing list
   <email>freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.ppc "FreeBSD PowerPC porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.qa "FreeBSD Quality Assurance mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.questions "FreeBSD general questions mailing list
   <email>freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.realtime "FreeBSD realtime extensions mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-realtime@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.scsi "FreeBSD SCSI subsystem mailing list
   <email>freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
@@ -100,11 +172,26 @@
 <!ENTITY a.smp "FreeBSD symmetric multiprocessing mailing list
   <email>freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.sparc "FreeBSD Sparc porting mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.stable "FreeBSD-stable mailing list
   <email>freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
+<!ENTITY a.standards "FreeBSD C99 and POSIX compliance mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-standards@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.test "FreeBSD test mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-test@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
 <!ENTITY a.tokenring "FreeBSD tokenring mailing list
   <email>freebsd-tokenring@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.usergroups "FreeBSD user group coordination mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-user-groups@FreeBSD.org</email>">
+
+<!ENTITY a.vendors "FreeBSD vendors pre-release coordination mailing list
+  <email>freebsd-vendors@FreeBSD.org</email>">
 
 <!ENTITY a.www "FreeBSD Webmaster mailing list
   <email>freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org</email>">

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On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:21:56AM -0600, Matt Christian wrote:
> 
> I noticed a dead link on the FreeBSD/ppc Project page at:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html
> 
[snip]
> 
> "For 3.0, the powerpc port has been renamed to macppc."

This will be fixed on the next build of the Web site - thanks!

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>Number:         34662
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       FDP Primer makes use of <portname> which is non-existent
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Feb 06 04:10:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        5.0 -CURRENT i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
n/a
>Description:
The FreeBSD Documentation Primer makes use of a <portname> tag
for the title of an example (example 4-39).  This should be
<port>, and not <portname>.
>How-To-Repeat:
Point your browser to:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/x1385.html

(under section '4.2.5.5 : The name of ports')
>Fix:
Change <portname> to <port>, as the title for the example.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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>Number:         34668
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed Feb 06 09:00:06 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Stefan Farfeleder
>Release:        4-5
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD stefan.fafoe 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #1: Sat Feb  2 13:05:42 CET 2002     stefan@stefan.fafoe:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

>Description:
The -t option takes a string of characters, of which '+' wasn't documented    till now. Wording taken from NetBSD ktrace(1).

Additional problem: kdump(1) refers to ktrace(1) for information about -t, but while ktrace defaults to DEF_POINTS (-t +), kdump has ALL_POINTS (-t +w) when no -t option is given.
>How-To-Repeat:

>Fix:
--- ktrace.1.orig       Wed Feb  6 16:05:12 2002
+++ ktrace.1    Wed Feb  6 16:40:44 2002
@@ -119,6 +119,8 @@
 userland traces
 .It Cm w
 context switches
+.It Cm +
+trace the default set of trace points (c, n, i, s, u)
 .El
 .It Ar command
 Execute

>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34668; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: Stefan Farfeleder <e0026813@stud3.tuwien.ac.at>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:21:13 +0200

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 On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:51:58AM -0800, Stefan Farfeleder wrote:
 >=20
 > >Number:         34668
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
 > >Originator:     Stefan Farfeleder
 >=20
 > >Description:
 > The -t option takes a string of characters, of which '+' wasn't documente=
 d    till now. Wording taken from NetBSD ktrace(1).
 >=20
 > Additional problem: kdump(1) refers to ktrace(1) for information about -t=
 , but while ktrace defaults to DEF_POINTS (-t +), kdump has ALL_POINTS (-t =
 +w) when no -t option is given.
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 >=20
 > >Fix:
 > --- ktrace.1.orig       Wed Feb  6 16:05:12 2002
 > +++ ktrace.1    Wed Feb  6 16:40:44 2002
 > @@ -119,6 +119,8 @@
 >  userland traces
 >  .It Cm w
 >  context switches
 > +.It Cm +
 > +trace the default set of trace points (c, n, i, s, u)
 >  .El
 >  .It Ar command
 >  Execute
 
 Would it not be better to mark those up as Cm's, as in
 the attached patch?
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34668; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
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Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:37:01 +0200

 The second e-mail address that I tried bounces too.
 
 Still, I think this PR should be addressed, regardless of the fact
 that the originator's e-mail address bounces :)
 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34668; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
To: Stefan Farfeleder <e0026813@tuwien.ac.at>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:30:56 +0200

 Hmm.. is this your correct e-mail address?  I got a 'mail delivery
 failure: user does not exist' on the one in the PR..
 
 (Apologies to -doc and GNATS for getting this message twice)
 
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 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 10:21:13 +0200
 From: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
 To: Stefan Farfeleder <e0026813@stud3.tuwien.ac.at>
 Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
 
 On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 08:51:58AM -0800, Stefan Farfeleder wrote:
 > 
 > >Number:         34668
 > >Category:       docs
 > >Synopsis:       Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
 > >Originator:     Stefan Farfeleder
 > 
 > >Description:
 > The -t option takes a string of characters, of which '+' wasn't documented    till now. Wording taken from NetBSD ktrace(1).
 > 
 > Additional problem: kdump(1) refers to ktrace(1) for information about -t, but while ktrace defaults to DEF_POINTS (-t +), kdump has ALL_POINTS (-t +w) when no -t option is given.
 > >How-To-Repeat:
 > 
 > >Fix:
 > --- ktrace.1.orig       Wed Feb  6 16:05:12 2002
 > +++ ktrace.1    Wed Feb  6 16:40:44 2002
 > @@ -119,6 +119,8 @@
 >  userland traces
 >  .It Cm w
 >  context switches
 > +.It Cm +
 > +trace the default set of trace points (c, n, i, s, u)
 >  .El
 >  .It Ar command
 >  Execute
 
 Would it not be better to mark those up as Cm's, as in
 the attached patch?
 G'luck,
 Peter
 
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 This sentence contains exactly threee erors.
 
 Index: src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.1
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.1,v
 retrieving revision 1.13
 diff -u -r1.13 ktrace.1
 --- src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.1	15 Jul 2001 08:01:20 -0000	1.13
 +++ src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.1	7 Feb 2002 08:19:48 -0000
 @@ -119,6 +119,13 @@
  userland traces
  .It Cm w
  context switches
 +.It Cm +
 +trace the default set of trace points -
 +.Cm c ,
 +.Cm n ,
 +.Cm i ,
 +.Cm s ,
 +.Cm u
  .El
  .It Ar command
  Execute
 
 
 
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Hi,

I wanted to build the FreeBSD documentation locally,
and I've followed the instructions on:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/

i.e. I've installed the docproj port and additionally
the 'sp' port (which was not pulled automagically).

However the build fails:

cd /usr/doc; make 

already breaks at the committers guide with an error like this:
[..]
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml:13:0:E: DTD did not contain element declaration for document type name
/usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml:15:8:E: element "article" undefined
[ more errors like this ]

/usr/doc was cvsupped yesterday with a release tag of '.'
(like the ports), my FreeBSD is 4.5-STABLE.

I also had similar problem building the mutt-devel documentation,
which also uses sgml (and sgmlformat to process).

I remember having similar problems in the past (when I built
the documentation, but thats a long time ago, maybe even < FreeBSD 4),
I could solve them partially by moving /usr/doc -> /usr/share/doc 

Well, I have tried it quick, but without success.

I did not file a PR, yet, because I suspect it might
be a proiblem with my setup. Any advice how to debug the problem
further (i.e. where to look for appropriate DTDs, and include these
somehow), are greatly appreciated.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/34668; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Stefan Farfeleder <e0026813@student.tuwien.ac.at>
To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
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Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:14:51 +0100

 Peter Pentchev wrote:
 >Would it not be better to mark those up as Cm's, as in the attached
 >patch?
 
 That's ok with me. Sorry about the bouncing mails, the address is
 correct, but the server at the university was down for some reason.
 Everything should work again by now :-)
 
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On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 at 14:26:48 +0100, Daniel Lang wrote:
> Hi,

Hi,

> I wanted to build the FreeBSD documentation locally, and I've followed
> the instructions on:
> 
> http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/
> 
> i.e. I've installed the docproj port and additionally the 'sp' port
> (which was not pulled automagically).

You don't need the sp port.

> However the build fails:
> 
> cd /usr/doc; make 

The docs should be installed in /usr/share/doc if you installed them
when you installed the machine from sysinstall...

- jim

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Hi,

Sorry to bother you, but I found a error in the docs.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-disk.html

This is in the FreeBSD Handbook Section 6.9 Tuning Disks

In section 6.9.2.1 in the third last sentence (beginning: A rm -f for
 ...) of the second paragraph (beginning: There are two classical ...) the
sentence reads "... but every single of these directory changes ..." and I
believe that it should read "... but every single ONE of these directory
changes ..."

Thanks,
Eric Ferguson - BSD fan :)


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Synopsis: ping(8) and ping6(8) are silent about SIGINFO

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On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 02:13:43PM -0500, Eric Ferguson wrote:
> 
> Sorry to bother you, but I found a error in the docs.

Thanks!  It's always worth reporting any errors you find, and never a
bother.

> This is in the FreeBSD Handbook Section 6.9 Tuning Disks
> 
> In section 6.9.2.1 in the third last sentence (beginning: A rm -f for
>  ...) of the second paragraph (beginning: There are two classical ...) the
> sentence reads "... but every single of these directory changes ..." and I
> believe that it should read "... but every single ONE of these directory
> changes ..."

I've looked through that section, and the English isn't great
throughout.  I'd appreciate if people could review and comment on the
attached patch.  If I don't hear any criticism, I'll commit it in the
next few days.

Tom

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Index: config/chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.37
diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml
--- config/chapter.sgml	23 Jan 2002 11:59:32 -0000	1.37
+++ config/chapter.sgml	7 Feb 2002 20:06:45 -0000
@@ -816,17 +816,16 @@
 	</indexterm>
 	
 	<para>The <varname>vfs.vmiodirenable</varname> sysctl variable
-	  defaults to 1 (on) and may
-	  be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on).  This parameter controls how
+	  be set to either 0 (off) or 1 (on).  It is 1 by default.  This parameter controls how
 	  directories are cached by the system.  Most directories are
-	  small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the
-	  filesystem and even less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer
+	  small, using just a single fragment (typically 1K) in the
+	  filesystem and less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer
 	  cache.  However, when operating in the default mode the buffer
 	  cache will only cache a fixed number of directories even if
 	  you have a huge amount of memory.  Turning on this sysctl
 	  allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache to cache the
-	  directories.  The advantage is that all of memory is now
-	  available for caching directories.  The disadvantage is that
+	  directories, making all the memory
+	  available for caching directories.  However,
 	  the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the
 	  physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes.  We
 	  recommend turning this option on if you are running any
@@ -847,15 +846,15 @@
 	<para>FreeBSD 4.3 flirted with turning off IDE write caching.
 	  This reduced write bandwidth to IDE disks but was considered
 	  necessary due to serious data consistency issues introduced
-	  by hard drive vendors.  Basically the problem is that IDE
+	  by hard drive vendors.  The problem is that IDE
 	  drives lie about when a write completes.  With IDE write
-	  caching turned on, IDE hard drives will not only write data
-	  to disk out of order, they will sometimes delay some of the
+	  caching turned on, IDE hard drives not only write data
+	  to disk out of order, but will sometimes delay writing some
 	  blocks indefinitely when under heavy disk loads.  A crash or
-	  power failure can result in serious filesystem corruption.
-	  So our default was changed to be safe.  Unfortunately, the
-	  result was such a huge loss in performance that we caved in
-	  and changed the default back to on after the release.  You
+	  power failure may cause serious filesystem corruption.
+	  FreeBSD's default was changed to be safe.  Unfortunately, the
+	  result was such a huge performance loss that we
+	  changed write caching back to on by default after the release.  You
 	  should check the default on your system by observing the
 	  <varname>hw.ata.wc</varname> sysctl variable.  If IDE write
 	  caching is turned off, you can turn it back on by setting
@@ -898,44 +897,44 @@
         updating the physical disk.  If your system crashes you may lose more
         work than otherwise.  Secondly, Soft Updates delays the freeing of
         filesystem blocks.  If you have a filesystem (such as the root
-        filesystem) which is close to full, doing a major update of it, e.g.
-        <command>make installworld</command>, can run it out of space and
-        cause the update to fail.</para>
+        filesystem) which is almost full, doing a major update of it, e.g.
+        <command>make installworld</command>, can cause the filesystem to run out of space,
+        causing the update to fail.</para>
 
       <sect3>
 	<title>More details about Soft Updates</title>
 	
 	<indexterm><primary>Soft Updates (Details)</primary></indexterm>
 
-	<para>There are two classical approaches how to write metadata of
-    	  a filesystem back to disk.  (Metadata updates are updates to
-	  non-content data like i-nodes or directories.)</para>
+	<para>There are two traditional approaches to writing a filesystem's meta-data
+    	  back to disk.  (Meta-data updates are updates to
+	  non-content data like inodes or directories.)</para>
 	
 	<para>Historically, the default behaviour was to write out
-	  metadata updates synchronously.  If a directory had been
+	  meta-data updates synchronously.  If a directory had been
 	  changed, the system waited until the change was actually
 	  written to disk.  The file data buffers (file contents) have
 	  been passed through the buffer cache however, and backed up
 	  to disk later on asynchronously.  The advantage of this
-	  implementation is that it is operating very safely.  If there is
-	  a failure during an update the metadata are always in a
-	  consistent state.  A file has either been completely created
+	  implementation is that it operates safely.  If there is
+	  a failure during an update, the meta-data are always in a
+	  consistent state.  A file has either been created completely
 	  or not at all.  If the data blocks of a file did not find
 	  their way out of the buffer cache onto the disk by the time
-	  of the crash, &man.fsck.8; is able to recognize this and to
-	  repair the filesystem (e. g. the file length will be set to
+	  of the crash, &man.fsck.8; is able to recognize this and
+	  repair the filesystem by setting the file length to
 	  0).  Additionally, the implementation is clear and simple.
-	  The disadvantage is that metadata changes are very slow.  A
-	  <command>rm -r</command> for instance touches all files of a
-	  directory sequentially, but every single of these directory
-	  changes (deletion of a file) will be written synchronously
+	  The disadvantage is that meta-data changes are slow.  A
+	  <command>rm -r</command> for instance touches all the files in a
+	  directory sequentially, but each directory
+	  change (deletion of a file) will be written synchronously
 	  to the disk.  This includes updates to the directory itself,
-	  to the i-node table, and possibly to indirect blocks
+	  to the inode table, and possibly to indirect blocks
 	  allocated by the file.  Similar considerations apply for
-	  unrolling large hierachies (<command>tar -x</command>).</para>
+	  unrolling large hierarchies (<command>tar -x</command>).</para>
 
-	<para>The second case are asynchronous metadata updates.  This
-  	  is e. g. the default for Linux/ext2fs or achieved by
+	<para>The second case is asynchronous meta-data updates.  This
+  	  is the default for Linux/ext2fs or achieved by
   	  <command>mount -o async</command> for *BSD ufs.  All
   	  metadata updates are simply being passed through the buffer
   	  cache too, that is, they will be intermixed with the updates
@@ -948,101 +947,101 @@
   	  risk for bugs creeping into the code.  The disadvantage is
   	  that there is no guarantee at all for a consistent state of
   	  the filesystem.  If there is a failure during an operation
-  	  that updated large amounts of metadata (like a power
+  	  that updated large amounts of meta-data (like a power
   	  failure, or someone pressing the reset button),
 	  the file system
-  	  will be left in an unpredictable state.  There is no chance
+  	  will be left in an unpredictable state.  There is no opportunity
   	  to examine the state of the file system when the system
   	  comes up again; the data blocks of a file could already have
-  	  been written to the disk while the updates of the i-node
+  	  been written to the disk while the updates of the inode
   	  table or the associated directory were not.  It is actually
   	  impossible to implement a <command>fsck</command> which is
   	  able to clean up the resulting chaos (because the necessary
-  	  information is just not available on the disk).  If the
+  	  information is not available on the disk).  If the
 	  filesystem has been damaged beyond repair, the only choice
 	  is to <command>newfs</command> it and restore it from backup.
 	  </para>
 
-	<para>The usual solution for this problem was to implement a
-	  <emphasis>dirty region logging</emphasis> (sometimes also
-	  referred to as <emphasis>journalling</emphasis>, albeit that
-	  term has not been used consistently and occasionally applied
-	  to other forms of transaction logging as well).  Metadata
-	  updates are still written out synchronously, but only into a
-	  small region of the disk.  Later on they will be distributed
-	  from there to their proper location.  Because the logging
-	  area is only a small, contiguous region on the disk, there
+	<para>The usual solution for this problem was to implement
+	  <emphasis>dirty region logging</emphasis>, which is also
+	  referred to as <emphasis>journalling</emphasis>, although that
+	  term is not used consistently and is occasionally applied
+	  to other forms of transaction logging as well.  Meta-data
+	  updates are still written synchronously, but only into a
+	  small region of the disk.  Later on they will be moved
+	  to their proper location.  Because the logging
+	  area is a small, contiguous region on the disk, there
 	  are no long distances for the disk heads to move, even
-	  during heavy operations, so these operations are accelerated
-	  quite a bit compared to the classical synchronous updates.
+	  during heavy operations, so these operations are quicker
+	  than synchronous updates.
 	  Additionally the complexity of the implementation is fairly
-	  limited and thus the risk for bugs still low.  A disadvatage
-	  is that all metadata are written twice (once into the
+	  limited, so the risk of bugs being present is low.  A disadvatage
+	  is that all meta-data are written twice (once into the
 	  logging region and once to the proper location) so for
 	  normal work, a performance <quote>pessimization</quote>
 	  might result.  On the other hand, in case of a crash, all
-	  pending metadata operations can be quickly either rolled-back
+	  pending meta-data operations can be quickly either rolled back
 	  or completed from the logging area after the system comes
 	  up again, resulting in a fast filesystem startup.</para>
      
-	<para>Now, Kirk McKusick's (the developer of Berkeley FFS)
-	   solution to the problem are Soft Updates: all pending
-	   metadata updates are kept in memory and written out to disk
-	   in a sorted sequence (<quote>ordered metadata
+	<para>Kirk McKusick (the developer of Berkeley FFS)
+	   solved this problem with Soft Updates: all pending
+	   meta-data updates are kept in memory and written out to disk
+	   in a sorted sequence (<quote>ordered meta-data
 	   updates</quote>).  This has the effect that, in case of
-	   heavy metadata operations, later updates of a certain item
-	   <quote>catch</quote> the earlier ones if those are still in
+	   heavy meta-data operations, later updates to an item
+	   <quote>catch</quote> the earlier ones if the earlier ones are still in
 	   memory and have not already been written to disk.  So all
-	   operations on, say, a directory are generally done still in
+	   operations on, say, a directory are generally done in
 	   memory before the update is written to disk (the data
-	   blocks are sorted to their according position as well so
+	   blocks are sorted according to their position so
 	   that they will not be on the disk ahead of their metadata).
-	   In case of a crash this causes an implicit <quote>log
+	   If the system crashes, this causes an implicit <quote>log
 	   rewind</quote>: all operations which did not find their way
 	   to the disk appear as if they had never happened.  A
 	   consistent filesystem state is maintained that appears to
-	   be the one of 30--60 seconds earlier.  The
-	   algorithm used guarantees that all actually used resources
-	   are marked as such in their appropriate bitmaps: blocks and i-nodes.
+	   be the one of 30 to 60 seconds earlier.  The
+	   algorithm used guarantees that all used resources
+	   are marked as such in their appropriate bitmaps: blocks and inodes.
 	   After a crash, the only resource allocation error
-	   that occur are that resources are
-	   marked as <quote>used</quote> which actually are <quote>free</quote>.
-	   &man.fsck.8; then recognizes this situation,
-	   and free up those no longer used resources.  It is safe to
-	   ignore the dirty state of the filesystem after a crash, by
+	   that occurs is that resources are
+	   marked as <quote>used</quote> which are actually <quote>free</quote>.
+	   &man.fsck.8; recognizes this situation,
+	   and frees the resources that are no longer used.  It is safe to
+	   ignore the dirty state of the filesystem after a crash by
 	   forcibly mounting it with <command>mount -f</command>.  In
-	   order to free up possibly unused resources, &man.fsck.8;
+	   order to free up resources that may be unused, &man.fsck.8;
 	   needs to be run at a later time.  This is the idea behind
 	   the <emphasis>background fsck</emphasis>: at system startup
-	   time, only a <emphasis>snapshot</emphasis> from the
-	   filesystem is recorded, that <command>fsck</command> can be
-	   run against later on.  All filesystems can then be mounted
-	   <quote>dirty</quote>, and system startup proceeds to
+	   time, only a <emphasis>snapshot</emphasis> of the
+	   filesystem is recorded, the <command>fsck</command> can be
+	   run later on.  All filesystems can then be mounted
+	   <quote>dirty</quote>, so the system startup proceeds in
 	   multiuser mode.  Then, background <command>fsck</command>s
-	   will be scheduled for all filesystems that need it, to free
-	   up possibly unused resources.  (Filesystems that do not use
+	   will be scheduled for all filesystems where this is required, to free
+	   resources that may be unused.  (Filesystems that do not use
 	   soft updates still need the usual foreground
 	   <command>fsck</command> though.)</para>
 
-	 <para>The advantage is that metadata operations are nearly as
-	   fast as asynchronous updates (i. e. faster than with
+	 <para>The advantage is that meta-data operations are nearly as
+	   fast as asynchronous updates (i.e. faster than with
 	   <emphasis>logging</emphasis>, which has to write the
 	   metadata twice).  The disadvantages are the complexity of
 	   the code (implying a higher risk for bugs in an area that
 	   is highly sensitive regarding loss of user data), and a
 	   higher memory consumption.  Additionally there are some
-	   <quote>idiosyncrasies</quote> one has to get used to.
+	   idiosyncrasies one has to get used to.
 	   After a crash, the state of the filesystem appears to be
-	   somewhat <quote>older</quote>; e. g. in situations where
+	   somewhat <quote>older</quote>.  In situations where
 	   the standard synchronous approach would have caused some
 	   zero-length files to remain after the
 	   <command>fsck</command>, these files do not exist at all
-	   with a soft updates filesystem because neither the metadata
+	   with a Soft Updates filesystem because neither the meta-data
 	   nor the file contents have ever been written to disk.
-	   After a <command>rm</command>, the released disk space is
-	   not instantly available but only after the updates have
-	   written to disk.  This can in particular cause problems
-	   when installing large amounts of data into a filesystem
+	   Disk space is not released until the updates have been
+	   written to disk, which may take place some time after
+	   running <command>rm</command> .  This may cause problems
+	   when installing large amounts of data on a filesystem
 	   that does not have enough free space to hold all the files
 	   twice.</para>
       </sect3>

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Tom Hukins wrote:


Tom, may I offer the following minor nit-picks?  I think it adds a slight touch of

grammer.  All in all, I think the rest of it was great...  And you do 
not need to take my advice, i'm only trying to help a little ;)



> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Index: config/chapter.sgml
> ===================================================================
> RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v
> retrieving revision 1.37
> diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml
> --- config/chapter.sgml	23 Jan 2002 11:59:32 -0000	1.37
> +++ config/chapter.sgml	7 Feb 2002 20:06:45 -0000
> @@ -816,17 +816,16 @@
>  	</indexterm>
>  	
>  	<para>The <varname>vfs.vmiodirenable</varname> sysctl variable
> -	  defaults to 1 (on) and may
> -	  be set to 0 (off) or 1 (on).  This parameter controls how
> +	  be set to either 0 (off) or 1 (on).  It is 1 by default.  This parameter controls how


Is is 1 by default > This parameter is 1 (on) by default
may sound better, opinions?

>  	  directories are cached by the system.  Most directories are
> -	  small and use but a single fragment (typically 1K) in the
> -	  filesystem and even less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer
> +	  small, using just a single fragment (typically 1K) in the
> +	  filesystem and less (typically 512 bytes) in the buffer


Should a comment be  after fragment and less?  I think it would sound 
better, but I want a better opinion.


>  	  cache.  However, when operating in the default mode the buffer
>  	  cache will only cache a fixed number of directories even if
>  	  you have a huge amount of memory.  Turning on this sysctl
>  	  allows the buffer cache to use the VM Page Cache to cache the
> -	  directories.  The advantage is that all of memory is now
> -	  available for caching directories.  The disadvantage is that
> +	  directories, making all the memory
> +	  available for caching directories.  However,
>  	  the minimum in-core memory used to cache a directory is the
>  	  physical page size (typically 4K) rather than 512 bytes.  We
>  	  recommend turning this option on if you are running any
> @@ -847,15 +846,15 @@
>  	<para>FreeBSD 4.3 flirted with turning off IDE write caching.
>  	  This reduced write bandwidth to IDE disks but was considered
>  	  necessary due to serious data consistency issues introduced
> -	  by hard drive vendors.  Basically the problem is that IDE
> +	  by hard drive vendors.  The problem is that IDE
>  	  drives lie about when a write completes.  With IDE write
> -	  caching turned on, IDE hard drives will not only write data
> -	  to disk out of order, they will sometimes delay some of the
> +	  caching turned on, IDE hard drives not only write data
> +	  to disk out of order, but will sometimes delay writing some
>  	  blocks indefinitely when under heavy disk loads.  A crash or
> -	  power failure can result in serious filesystem corruption.
> -	  So our default was changed to be safe.  Unfortunately, the
> -	  result was such a huge loss in performance that we caved in
> -	  and changed the default back to on after the release.  You
> +	  power failure may cause serious filesystem corruption.
> +	  FreeBSD's default was changed to be safe.  Unfortunately, the
> +	  result was such a huge performance loss that we
> +	  changed write caching back to on by default after the release.  You
>  	  should check the default on your system by observing the
>  	  <varname>hw.ata.wc</varname> sysctl variable.  If IDE write
>  	  caching is turned off, you can turn it back on by setting
> @@ -898,44 +897,44 @@
>          updating the physical disk.  If your system crashes you may lose more
>          work than otherwise.  Secondly, Soft Updates delays the freeing of
>          filesystem blocks.  If you have a filesystem (such as the root
> -        filesystem) which is close to full, doing a major update of it, e.g.
> -        <command>make installworld</command>, can run it out of space and
> -        cause the update to fail.</para>
> +        filesystem) which is almost full, doing a major update of it, e.g.
> +        <command>make installworld</command>, can cause the filesystem to run out of space,
> +        causing the update to fail.</para>


Can we remove "of it" and replace this with: update, such as make 
installworld, could?


>  
>        <sect3>
>  	<title>More details about Soft Updates</title>
>  	
>  	<indexterm><primary>Soft Updates (Details)</primary></indexterm>
>  
> -	<para>There are two classical approaches how to write metadata of
> -    	  a filesystem back to disk.  (Metadata updates are updates to
> -	  non-content data like i-nodes or directories.)</para>
> +	<para>There are two traditional approaches to writing a filesystem's meta-data
> +    	  back to disk.  (Meta-data updates are updates to
> +	  non-content data like inodes or directories.)</para>
>  	
>  	<para>Historically, the default behaviour was to write out
> -	  metadata updates synchronously.  If a directory had been
> +	  meta-data updates synchronously.  If a directory had been
>  	  changed, the system waited until the change was actually
>  	  written to disk.  The file data buffers (file contents) have
>  	  been passed through the buffer cache however, and backed up
>  	  to disk later on asynchronously.  The advantage of this
> -	  implementation is that it is operating very safely.  If there is
> -	  a failure during an update the metadata are always in a
> -	  consistent state.  A file has either been completely created
> +	  implementation is that it operates safely.  If there is
> +	  a failure during an update, the meta-data are always in a
> +	  consistent state.  A file has either been created completely


s/are/is/  comment on that, I figured is because saying it sounds more 
realistic ;)


>  	  or not at all.  If the data blocks of a file did not find
>  	  their way out of the buffer cache onto the disk by the time
> -	  of the crash, &man.fsck.8; is able to recognize this and to
> -	  repair the filesystem (e. g. the file length will be set to
> +	  of the crash, &man.fsck.8; is able to recognize this and
> +	  repair the filesystem by setting the file length to
>  	  0).  Additionally, the implementation is clear and simple.
> -	  The disadvantage is that metadata changes are very slow.  A
> -	  <command>rm -r</command> for instance touches all files of a
> -	  directory sequentially, but every single of these directory
> -	  changes (deletion of a file) will be written synchronously
> +	  The disadvantage is that meta-data changes are slow.  A


s/A/an/ ?


> +	  <command>rm -r</command> for instance touches all the files in


<command>rm -r</command>, for instance,
may sound better?

 
> +	  directory sequentially, but each directory
> +	  change (deletion of a file) will be written synchronously
>  	  to the disk.  This includes updates to the directory itself,
> -	  to the i-node table, and possibly to indirect blocks
> +	  to the inode table, and possibly to indirect blocks
>  	  allocated by the file.  Similar considerations apply for
> -	  unrolling large hierachies (<command>tar -x</command>).</para>
> +	  unrolling large hierarchies (<command>tar -x</command>).</para>
>  
> -	<para>The second case are asynchronous metadata updates.  This
> -  	  is e. g. the default for Linux/ext2fs or achieved by
> +	<para>The second case is asynchronous meta-data updates.  This
> +  	  is the default for Linux/ext2fs or achieved by
>    	  <command>mount -o async</command> for *BSD ufs.  All
>    	  metadata updates are simply being passed through the buffer
>    	  cache too, that is, they will be intermixed with the updates
> @@ -948,101 +947,101 @@
>    	  risk for bugs creeping into the code.  The disadvantage is
>    	  that there is no guarantee at all for a consistent state of
>    	  the filesystem.  If there is a failure during an operation
> -  	  that updated large amounts of metadata (like a power
> +  	  that updated large amounts of meta-data (like a power
>    	  failure, or someone pressing the reset button),
>  	  the file system
> -  	  will be left in an unpredictable state.  There is no chance
> +  	  will be left in an unpredictable state.  There is no opportunity
>    	  to examine the state of the file system when the system
>    	  comes up again; the data blocks of a file could already have
> -  	  been written to the disk while the updates of the i-node
> +  	  been written to the disk while the updates of the inode
>    	  table or the associated directory were not.  It is actually
>    	  impossible to implement a <command>fsck</command> which is
>    	  able to clean up the resulting chaos (because the necessary
> -  	  information is just not available on the disk).  If the
> +  	  information is not available on the disk).  If the
>  	  filesystem has been damaged beyond repair, the only choice
>  	  is to <command>newfs</command> it and restore it from backup.
>  	  </para>
>  
> -	<para>The usual solution for this problem was to implement a
> -	  <emphasis>dirty region logging</emphasis> (sometimes also
> -	  referred to as <emphasis>journalling</emphasis>, albeit that
> -	  term has not been used consistently and occasionally applied
> -	  to other forms of transaction logging as well).  Metadata
> -	  updates are still written out synchronously, but only into a
> -	  small region of the disk.  Later on they will be distributed
> -	  from there to their proper location.  Because the logging
> -	  area is only a small, contiguous region on the disk, there
> +	<para>The usual solution for this problem was to implement
> +	  <emphasis>dirty region logging</emphasis>, which is also
> +	  referred to as <emphasis>journalling</emphasis>, although that
> +	  term is not used consistently and is occasionally applied
> +	  to other forms of transaction logging as well.  Meta-data
> +	  updates are still written synchronously, but only into a
> +	  small region of the disk.  Later on they will be moved
> +	  to their proper location.  Because the logging
> +	  area is a small, contiguous region on the disk, there
>  	  are no long distances for the disk heads to move, even
> -	  during heavy operations, so these operations are accelerated
> -	  quite a bit compared to the classical synchronous updates.
> +	  during heavy operations, so these operations are quicker
> +	  than synchronous updates.
>  	  Additionally the complexity of the implementation is fairly
> -	  limited and thus the risk for bugs still low.  A disadvatage
> -	  is that all metadata are written twice (once into the
> +	  limited, so the risk of bugs being present is low.  A disadvatage
> +	  is that all meta-data are written twice (once into the
>  	  logging region and once to the proper location) so for
>  	  normal work, a performance <quote>pessimization</quote>
>  	  might result.  On the other hand, in case of a crash, all
> -	  pending metadata operations can be quickly either rolled-back
> +	  pending meta-data operations can be quickly either rolled back
>  	  or completed from the logging area after the system comes
>  	  up again, resulting in a fast filesystem startup.</para>
>       
> -	<para>Now, Kirk McKusick's (the developer of Berkeley FFS)
> -	   solution to the problem are Soft Updates: all pending
> -	   metadata updates are kept in memory and written out to disk
> -	   in a sorted sequence (<quote>ordered metadata
> +	<para>Kirk McKusick (the developer of Berkeley FFS)


Maybe this can be: Kirk McKusick, the developer of the Berkely FFS,


> +	   solved this problem with Soft Updates: all pending
> +	   meta-data updates are kept in memory and written out to disk
> +	   in a sorted sequence (<quote>ordered meta-data
>  	   updates</quote>).  This has the effect that, in case of
> -	   heavy metadata operations, later updates of a certain item
> -	   <quote>catch</quote> the earlier ones if those are still in
> +	   heavy meta-data operations, later updates to an item
> +	   <quote>catch</quote> the earlier ones if the earlier ones are still in
>  	   memory and have not already been written to disk.  So all
> -	   operations on, say, a directory are generally done still in
> +	   operations on, say, a directory are generally done in
>  	   memory before the update is written to disk (the data
> -	   blocks are sorted to their according position as well so
> +	   blocks are sorted according to their position so
>  	   that they will not be on the disk ahead of their metadata).
> -	   In case of a crash this causes an implicit <quote>log
> +	   If the system crashes, this causes an implicit <quote>log
>  	   rewind</quote>: all operations which did not find their way
>  	   to the disk appear as if they had never happened.  A
>  	   consistent filesystem state is maintained that appears to
> -	   be the one of 30--60 seconds earlier.  The
> -	   algorithm used guarantees that all actually used resources
> -	   are marked as such in their appropriate bitmaps: blocks and i-nodes.
> +	   be the one of 30 to 60 seconds earlier.  The
> +	   algorithm used guarantees that all used resources
> +	   are marked as such in their appropriate bitmaps: blocks and inodes.
>  	   After a crash, the only resource allocation error
> -	   that occur are that resources are
> -	   marked as <quote>used</quote> which actually are <quote>free</quote>.
> -	   &man.fsck.8; then recognizes this situation,
> -	   and free up those no longer used resources.  It is safe to
> -	   ignore the dirty state of the filesystem after a crash, by
> +	   that occurs is that resources are
> +	   marked as <quote>used</quote> which are actually <quote>free</quote>.
> +	   &man.fsck.8; recognizes this situation,
> +	   and frees the resources that are no longer used.  It is safe to
> +	   ignore the dirty state of the filesystem after a crash by
>  	   forcibly mounting it with <command>mount -f</command>.  In
> -	   order to free up possibly unused resources, &man.fsck.8;
> +	   order to free up resources that may be unused, &man.fsck.8;
>  	   needs to be run at a later time.  This is the idea behind
>  	   the <emphasis>background fsck</emphasis>: at system startup
> -	   time, only a <emphasis>snapshot</emphasis> from the
> -	   filesystem is recorded, that <command>fsck</command> can be
> -	   run against later on.  All filesystems can then be mounted
> -	   <quote>dirty</quote>, and system startup proceeds to
> +	   time, only a <emphasis>snapshot</emphasis> of the
> +	   filesystem is recorded, the <command>fsck</command> can be
> +	   run later on.  All filesystems can then be mounted
> +	   <quote>dirty</quote>, so the system startup proceeds in
>  	   multiuser mode.  Then, background <command>fsck</command>s
> -	   will be scheduled for all filesystems that need it, to free
> -	   up possibly unused resources.  (Filesystems that do not use
> +	   will be scheduled for all filesystems where this is required, to free
> +	   resources that may be unused.  (Filesystems that do not use
>  	   soft updates still need the usual foreground
>  	   <command>fsck</command> though.)</para>
>  
> -	 <para>The advantage is that metadata operations are nearly as
> -	   fast as asynchronous updates (i. e. faster than with
> +	 <para>The advantage is that meta-data operations are nearly as
> +	   fast as asynchronous updates (i.e. faster than with
>  	   <emphasis>logging</emphasis>, which has to write the
>  	   metadata twice).  The disadvantages are the complexity of
>  	   the code (implying a higher risk for bugs in an area that
>  	   is highly sensitive regarding loss of user data), and a
>  	   higher memory consumption.  Additionally there are some
> -	   <quote>idiosyncrasies</quote> one has to get used to.
> +	   idiosyncrasies one has to get used to.
>  	   After a crash, the state of the filesystem appears to be
> -	   somewhat <quote>older</quote>; e. g. in situations where
> +	   somewhat <quote>older</quote>.  In situations where
>  	   the standard synchronous approach would have caused some
>  	   zero-length files to remain after the
>  	   <command>fsck</command>, these files do not exist at all
> -	   with a soft updates filesystem because neither the metadata
> +	   with a Soft Updates filesystem because neither the meta-data
>  	   nor the file contents have ever been written to disk.
> -	   After a <command>rm</command>, the released disk space is
> -	   not instantly available but only after the updates have
> -	   written to disk.  This can in particular cause problems
> -	   when installing large amounts of data into a filesystem
> +	   Disk space is not released until the updates have been
> +	   written to disk, which may take place some time after
> +	   running <command>rm</command> .  This may cause problems
> +	   when installing large amounts of data on a filesystem
>  	   that does not have enough free space to hold all the files
>  	   twice.</para>
>        </sect3>
> 



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On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:30:58AM -0800, Hackett, Daniel wrote:
> Had a question for you.. I noticed on the handbook page, its been updated=
=20
> for the 4.5 release, but on the ftps, its still geared toward the 4.4=20
> release, was wondering when this might be changed on the ftps so I might=
=20
> download a copy of the manual.

Busted crontab.  Now fixed.  I'm uploading updated docs built a few
minutes ago as I write this.

Give it about 30 minutes from the time stamp on this message.

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Hi,

Hiten Pandya wrote on Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 08:51:00AM -0800:
[..]
> did you setup the SGML_CATALOG, and all those env. variables?
> its documented in the fdp-primer..
> 
> just one of these things to look out for :)
Aye, that was the one, thanks. I've set SGML_CATALOG_FILES
but to an xml catalog, since for other projects I do 
XML validation occasionally, so the env was spoiled. After
setting it right, everything seems to work.

Since that seems the only required tweak apart form
the docproj port, wouldn't it make sense, to include
a reasonable setting in /etc/make.conf?
There is already a setting for DOC_LANG.

Best regards,
 Daniel
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Dear FreeBSD documentation people,

Your FAQ has "quotation marks" which show up as ``quotation marks" on
Windows and modern Macintosh systems. You should use Unicode
conventions, or update your fonts. I think you should read
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html. It will explain the
problem, and show you how to fix it.

I hope you fix it,
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>Number:         34743
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       nfsd(8) lacking signal explanation
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri Feb 08 18:30:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Gordon Tetlow
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Novartis Institute of Functional Genomics
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD fountainhead.gnf.org 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #1: Tue Oct 16 19:33:20 PDT 2001 gordont@fountainhead.gnf.org:/local/usr.obj/usr/src/sys/FOUNTAINHEAD i386

>Description:
        nfsd(8) in -STABLE doesn't explain that you can use kill -USR1 to kill
        nfsd. -CURRENT has it documented, it's just never been MFC'd
>How-To-Repeat:
	man nfsd
>Fix:

Here is a partial MFC of /usr/src/sbin/nfsd/nfsd.8 1.14

--- nfsd.8.orig	Mon Feb  4 11:14:58 2002
+++ nfsd.8	Mon Feb  4 11:17:10 2002
@@ -147,6 +147,22 @@
 would then be used to block nfs-related packets that come in on the outside
 interface.
 .Pp
+.Nm
+has to be terminated with
+.Dv SIGUSR1
+and cannot be killed with
+.Dv SIGTERM
+or
+.Dv SIGQUIT .
+.Nm
+needs to ignore these signals in order to stay alive as long
+as possible during a shutdown, otherwise loopback mounts will
+not be able to unmount.
+If you have to kill
+.Nm
+just do a
+.Dq Li "kill -USR1 <PID of master nfsd>"
+.Pp
 The
 .Nm
 utility exits 0 on success, and >0 if an error occurs.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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"Michael Kobas" <michael238@ozemail.com.au> writes:

> Your FAQ has "quotation marks" which show up as ``quotation marks" on
> Windows and modern Macintosh systems. You should use Unicode
> conventions, or update your fonts. I think you should read
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html. It will explain the
> problem, and show you how to fix it.

It's hard to not respond in anger to the hubris reflected by such
comments (above and moreso in the referenced document), especially
when so many users (if not the two authors above -- I don't know) of
"modern" systems refuse to follow existing standards for character
encoding, etc., so that many of us see web pages peppered with question
marks from illegally-encoded characters.  But it's good to have such
things brought to our attention and I hope Michael's comments will be
well considered.

(It also bugs me that the Unicode people have claimed to incorporate
ASCII, but we find out that the character they call "apostrophe" is not
the character they want used for the apostrophe glyph.  But this is at
least a reasonable compromise; maybe even the best of a bad lot.)

But the referenced document does make a good case for not using the
(single or double) grave-apostrophe pair, despite the hubris and snide
remarks and several errors which are not important here.  And the above
quote shows that there is an additional "feature" in many browsers
(including Netscape for Linux on FreeBSD, BTW) which causes two adjacent
apostrophe characters to be displayed as a single double quote.

We could say "get your browswers fixed" or change our quoting to make it
easier for all (?) but some text-browsers to read.  I, for one, have
never liked the use of the (single or double) grave in quoting, even in
ASCII text and prefer reading the more usual quotes like 'this' and
"this".  I suspect that more of our fonts will be changing to use
vertical strokes for the ASCII quotes so that their appearance in text
will only improve with time.  I'd like to see the FDP stop using the
grave character for quoting as it looks wierd in the increasing number
of systems that show the closing quote as vertical marks (and it looks
wierd even in those that don't, IMO).

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Gary W. Swearingen wrote:

Awhile ago, I even questioned the use of `` and " in documents, and was 
told it was just some tex output.  I know that, on my FreeBSD system I 
can use both quotation marks with no problem, hence, I have been doing 
the docs that way.  In either case, I agree you Gary, it did and still 
does look wierd to me ;)



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Hi,

I just wanted to compliment Robert Van Valzah for the great article found at

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/perl.html

and I'd like to point out that the latin word "vino" (where the latin
adage is mentioned) is not the accusative but the ablative form of vinum.

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>Number:         34758
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Irrelevant comment in killall(1) manpage
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Feb 09 08:20:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Jakob Borg
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
None 
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD narayan.borg.pp.se 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #8: Wed Jan 30 16:46:53 CET 2002 root@narayan.borg.pp.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/NARAYAN i386
>Description:

The manpage for killall(1) says:

       Be warned that  typing  killall  name  may  not  have  the
       desired  effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done
       by a privileged user.

which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. Also,
the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should not influence
the behavior of killall.

>How-To-Repeat:

man 1 killall

>Fix:

Replace with warning about FreeBSD or non-FreeBSD systems as appropriate, or
rephrase to talk about "... systems with non-GNU killall ..." or the whatever
the correct source for the current killall is.

>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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>Number:         34763
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Broken link from RELNOTSES
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Feb 09 10:50:03 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dominic Marks
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386
>Organization:
Student
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD gallium 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #2: Sat Feb 9
01:18:35 GMT 2002 dom@gallium:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GALLIUM i386
	
>Description:
	 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/relnotes-i386.html

	 In the above link, under 'Kernel Changes' there is a link to the
	 online available version of the man page for amdpm(4). However if
	 you click the link you won't find the man page. I would geuss
	 somebody forgot to generate a new set of 4.5 man pages on the
	 freebsd.org server.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	View:
	http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi *
	 ?query=amdpm&sektion=4&manpath=FreeBSD+4.5-RELEASE
	
>Fix:
	Unknown.
	
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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>Number:         34778
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       ata(4) man page refers to deprecated sysctl -w
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Feb 09 15:30:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Nate Eldredge
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD mercury 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #2: Sat Feb 9 14:59:21 PST 2002 nate@mercury:/big/obj/big/src/sys/MERCURY i386


	
>Description:
	The man page for ata(4) refers to using sysctl -w, which 
	sysctl(8) says is deprecated and ignored.
>How-To-Repeat:
	man 4 ata
>Fix:
	Don't mention -w.
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Hi,

The manpages for df(1), du(1) and ls(1) claim that -h (print human-
readable numbers) will reduce the number of digits to three or fewer,
but this isn't true. It will print numbers such as 1000K or 1010K
(ofcourse, since these are slightly less than a megabyte).

So the question is what to fix, the code or the manpage? OpenBSD fixed
their manpage to say four, but I think fixing the code is a better
solution.

-Tomas



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The following reply was made to PR docs/34758; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To: Jakob Borg <jakob@borg.pp.se>
Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34758: Irrelevant comment in killall(1) manpage
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 02:36:20 +0200 (EET)

 Jakob Borg wrote:
 
 > The manpage for killall(1) says:
 >
 >        Be warned that  typing  killall  name  may  not  have  the
 >        desired  effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done
 >        by a privileged user.
 >
 > which, while perhaps correct, is not relevant for a FreeBSD system. Also,
 > the operating system kernel in use at a particular system should not influence
 > the behavior of killall.
 
 Well the point the author is trying to make is that on Solaris (and
 probably other systems) typing "killall" in a prompt is a surprise in
 itself, because it REBOOTS the system !!!
 
 You're right that this should exclude Linux systems only though :-)
 
 
 Giorgos Keramidas                           FreeBSD Documentation Project
 keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr}      http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/
 

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Subject: docs/34782: pw(8) contains conflicting explanations for -L
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>Number:         34782
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       pw(8) contains conflicting explanations for -L
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       medium
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Feb 09 21:50:01 PST 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Christian Ullrich
>Release:        4.5-RELEASE
>Organization:
>Environment:
>Description:
The man page pw(8) contains two conflicting explanations for the 
option -L. The first says that it specified a login class, the 
second, that is was currently ignored.
>How-To-Repeat:
      
>Fix:
      
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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Subject: Re: docs/34047: [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referred to as depends_dev() in make_dev(9) and the MLINK does the same error
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Synopsis: [PATCH] function dev_depends() is referred to as depends_dev() in make_dev(9) and the MLINK does the same error

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Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Feb 9 22:45:57 PST 2002
Responsible-Changed-Why: 
My screwup (notice how the man page doesn't even consistently misspell it).

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34047

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Subject: Re: docs/34778: ata(4) man page refers to deprecated sysctl -w
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Synopsis: ata(4) man page refers to deprecated sysctl -w

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Fixed, thanks!

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Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1) 
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The following reply was made to PR docs/34668; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Dima Dorfman <dima@trit.org>
To: Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: docs/34668: Document '+' for -t in ktrace(1) 
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:32:51 +0000

 Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote:
 >  --IrhDeMKUP4DT/M7F
 >  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 >  Content-Disposition: inline
 >  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 Ugh.  GNATS does a very good job of making MIME unreadable.
 
 >  Would it not be better to mark those up as Cm's, as in
 >  the attached patch?
 
 Yes, but not quite; I think using a single Cm would be even better, as
 in the following.
 
 P.S.  Peter, please commit this in a few days if nobody objects and I
 don't do it myself.
 
 Index: ktrace.1
 ===================================================================
 RCS file: /ref/cvsf/src/usr.bin/ktrace/ktrace.1,v
 retrieving revision 1.13
 diff -u -r1.13 ktrace.1
 --- ktrace.1	15 Jul 2001 08:01:20 -0000	1.13
 +++ ktrace.1	10 Feb 2002 07:28:25 -0000
 @@ -119,6 +119,9 @@
  userland traces
  .It Cm w
  context switches
 +.It Cm +
 +trace the default set of trace points -
 +.Cm c , n , i , s , u
  .El
  .It Ar command
  Execute

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