From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 7:16:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sm12.texas.rr.com (sm12.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0264437B402 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 07:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from TUZIK (cs2428106-46.houston.rr.com [24.28.106.46]) by sm12.texas.rr.com (8.12.1/8.12.0) with SMTP id g23FDDVB002161 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:13:13 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Andriy Mysyk" To: Subject: link Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c1c2c6$98937bc0$2e6a1c18@TUZIK> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI, http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdcomp_bkx.phtml link on http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography.html# BIBLIOGRAPHY-FREEBSD is not working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 7:17:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ezwv.com (hermes.ezwv.com [208.163.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FC737B421; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (ip206102033029.dlup.ezwv.com [206.102.33.29]) by mail.ezwv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g23F7VR22336; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:07:31 -0500 Message-Id: <200203031507.g23F7VR22336@mail.ezwv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Pratt To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Lucas Subject: Re: Official -doc freeze proposal Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:17:34 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] Cc: Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020221115732.GA575@rhadamanth> <20020302071734.A82120@blackhelicopters.org> <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org> In-Reply-To: <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One thing I would like to bring up regarding the doc freeze is the Handbook section on installation. I try to do the changes to the installation section as late as possible during the release. There have been occasions during the last few releases that last minute source tree changes were made that do affect the content of the installation section. I'm trying to catch up on email after being out of town for a few weeks so I might have missed a comment that a change during a doc freeze would require the approval of the release engineer. Perhaps this is implied but it might be better if it were documented. I'm all for a doc freeze since it seems it'll make the release process run a lot smoother. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 9:10:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7918837B419 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g23HA2D50732 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:10:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Request for help putting Developer Summit notes and content online Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As many of you know, we held a FreeBSD Developer Summit following the BSD Conference in San Francisco a few weeks ago. We have a variety of materials we'd like to put online from that summit, including extensive notes, list of attendees, thumbnails of attendees, etc. I'd like to solicit help from an active docs committer to... (1) Figure out where it should go -- web page? Developer handbook? ... (2) Provide appropriate xml/sgml/... expertise to format the content and commit it to the appropriate place. (3) Provide continuing support for updating the content as people submit changes. My basic plan is that we find a place to put it, format the current content, and put it there. Invite developers to directly commit spelling fixes, name fixes, etc. Require that developers submit larger content changes for review by myself. Part of what will no doubt turn up are additions based on reviewing the recording of the event, which I've not yet had a chance to do. Given that there was about 6-8 hours worth of event notes, there's a fair amount to do, so this will be time-consuming for a bit. Given that there will be future summits, we may want to carve out a niche on the internal web site (or the like) to put this and future stuff. Thanks, Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 9:23:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hub.FreeBSD.ORG (ANeuilly-102-1-3-182.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.12.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3F1537B404 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:23:26 -0800 (PST) From: jlyaich@comme-cv.com (jean-Louis Yaïch) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG SUBJECT: Auteur propose et recherche MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0" Message-Id: <20020303172326.A3F1537B404@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:23:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C05A02.8AD62BA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 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Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g23JNqR37590 for freebsd-doc; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:23:52 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203031923.g23JNqR37590@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' availability.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > availability.html || (/bin/rm -f availability.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null availability.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' docs.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > docs.html || (/bin/rm -f docs.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null docs.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' features.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > features.html || (/bin/rm -f features.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null features.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' register.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > register.html || (/bin/rm -f register.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null register.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' internet.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > internet.html || (/bin/rm -f internet.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null internet.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' mailto.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > mailto.html || (/bin/rm -f mailto.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null mailto.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' publish.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > publish.html || (/bin/rm -f publish.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null publish.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' relnotes.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > relnotes.html || (/bin/rm -f relnotes.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null relnotes.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' send-pr.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > send-pr.html || (/bin/rm -f send-pr.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null send-pr.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' support.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > support.html || (/bin/rm -f support.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null support.html *** Error code 1 (ignored) /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' where.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > where.html || (/bin/rm -f where.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null where.html /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' y2kbug.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en > y2kbug.html || (/bin/rm -f y2kbug.html && false) /usr/local/bin/tidy -i -m -raw -preserve -f /dev/null y2kbug.html /usr/local/bin/xsltproc -nonet -o index.html /c/www/build/www/en/index.xsl /c/www/build/www/en/news/news.xml /c/www/build/www/en/news/news.xml:159: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: day and year ^ /c/www/build/www/en/news/news.xml:160: error: Opening and ending tag mismatch: month and news ^ /c/www/build/www/en/news/news.xml:162: error: Premature end of data in tag 2002 ^ /c/www/build/www/en/news/news.xml:162: error: Premature end of data in tag ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA34031; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.254.205] (cerberus [192.168.254.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g23K9wG14628; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:07:16 -0800 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rich Morin Subject: proposed rework of http://www.freebsd.org/publish.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001.12.17, Ceri suggested that I try making some suggested changes to this area. I'm only now getting around to it, and don't guarantee any real results, but here is my plan, in case anyone wants to scream loudly: * The top-level page should be much shorter, giving only general information and links to other pages. Each language would then have its own page(s), maintained by someone who keeps track of publications for the language in question. Within the language-specific page(s), the current organization (BOOKS, CDROMS, ...) could apply. In fact, this leads to the possibility of a table of links on the top-level page, as: BOOKS CDROMS MAGAZINES NEWSLETTERS PRESS Chinese X English X X X X X German X X Indonesian X Japanese X X X Korean X X X * I'd kill off all of the stuff that isn't in print any more. If we want to have a "cover art gallery" somewhere else, fine, but THIS page should be an index to current publications. * I'd make the thumbnails smaller; perhaps 2/3 of their current size. That's still big enough for recognition, but it loads and scans a bit faster. (I'd keep the full-size images, of course.) * It would be useful to include links to publishers and FreeBSD- friendly resellers, to help folks _obtain_ these items. So, howzat? -r -- email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 12:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9D637B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16hcf8-0006wF-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:32:54 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hceo-00071T-00; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:32:34 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:32:34 +0000 From: Ceri To: Rich Morin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposed rework of http://www.freebsd.org/publish.html Message-ID: <20020303203234.GA26701@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Rich Morin , doc@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:07:16PM -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > On 2001.12.17, Ceri suggested that I try > making some suggested changes to this area. I like your plan, but this would also involve the translation teams maintaining their very own copies of this page, and I don't know that most of them have the time or resource to do that. For your information, in December sometime I mailed Annelise Andersen, Tom Mittelstadt and another publisher that I forget to ensure we had permission to use the cover images from their books, and to get images that they wanted used. Annelise was the only person who even replied; she sent me images in the approximate dimensions of the thumbnail and linked images (some of the linked images are different sizes) and even provided me with some copy describing her book that we could use. Unfortunately due the total lack of response from other parties I moved on to other things, but these are probably going to be of use to you if you're planning to make these changes, so I'll senf them to you if you like. Also, regarding the newsletter, it currently links to register.cgi which harvests your postal address in return for a promised copy of the newsletter, which jkh assured me is dead, dead, dead. In light of this, I asked Nik and jkh for an opinion on whether it should stay there harvesting addresses, and Nik's reply was "nix it", or something along those lines. So with Nik's approval I'm going to knock up a patch so that register.cgi will offer to (un)subscribe people to the -announce and -security-announce lists (it just formats and sends a mail to majordomo, which still needs to be authenticated) and nothing else, so if you could also remove the links from the newsletters that point at it, that would be neat. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 12:35:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C6137B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16hchX-00070j-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:35:23 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hchL-00071v-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:35:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:35:11 +0000 From: Ceri To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FAQ and IndexTerm Message-ID: <20020303203511.GC26701@submonkey.net> References: <20020301161045.GA43649@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020301161045.GA43649@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 04:10:45PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > According to http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/indexterm.html, the indexterm > element is not valid within tags, which as I understand (and I > could be very wrong) leaves me with the only way of doing this to be adding > IndexTerm ranges as described on the same page. > > Which there are two ways of doing: > > 1) Use the StartOfRange class attribute, > > 2) Use the Zone attribute, Ok, in the lack of any responses here, I'm going to start producing a list of elements that can be used for the second option, and then just throw all my toys out of the cot when someone tells me they're no use. ok? Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 12:46:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B518337B404 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16hcsZ-0007K4-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:46:47 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hcsJ-00074z-00; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 20:46:31 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:46:31 +0000 From: Ceri To: Rich Morin Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposed rework of http://www.freebsd.org/publish.html Message-ID: <20020303204631.GA27081@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Rich Morin , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20020303203234.GA26701@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020303203234.GA26701@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 08:32:34PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > For your information, in December sometime I mailed Annelise Andersen, > Tom Mittelstadt and another publisher that I forget to ensure we had > permission to use the cover images from their books, and to get images > that they wanted used. s/om/ed/ whoops. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 14:19: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21411.mail.yahoo.com (web21411.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.232.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BF3437B404 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:18:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020303221848.5175.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.93.34.172] by web21411.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 14:18:48 PST Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:18:48 -0800 (PST) From: SARNJ DHALIWAL Subject: freeBSD? To: doc@freeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On your website you have written that i can get freeBSD for free.then how comes there are prices shown to purchase it? how do i get it for free? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 16:55:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3173437B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g240tQ187743; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:55:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:55:26 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: SARNJ DHALIWAL Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freeBSD? Message-ID: <20020303195526.A87724@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020303221848.5175.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020303221848.5175.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com>; from sarnj_2000@yahoo.com on Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 02:18:48PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can download it from one of the FTP sites. This question is addressed in the FreeBSD FAQ. Basically, if you want a physical CD, you have to pay for it. If you just want the bits, you can download them. On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 02:18:48PM -0800, SARNJ DHALIWAL wrote: > On your website you have written that i can get > freeBSD for free.then how comes there are prices shown > to purchase it? how do i get it for free? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball > http://sports.yahoo.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 17:30: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7173837B405 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g241U1f05489; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from whiterose.net (whiterose.net [64.65.220.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4241637B405 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by whiterose.net (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 53F5D4B91E; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20020304012632.53F5D4B91E@whiterose.net> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) From: Tomas Svensson Reply-To: Tomas Svensson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35523 >Category: docs >Synopsis: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Mar 03 17:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tomas Svensson >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: BSD Slackers Inc >Environment: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Description: If you don't want to fix the problem (bin/34834), document the bug as a feature and adjust the manpage, these patches also fixes one spelling error. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: df.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/bin/df/df.1,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 df.1 --- df.1 10 Jul 2001 10:04:05 -0000 1.25 +++ df.1 21 Feb 2002 18:47:03 -0000 @@ -79,11 +79,11 @@ .It Fl H "Human-readable" output. Use unit suffixes: Byte, Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte and Petabyte in order to reduce the number of -digits to three or less using base 10 for sizes. +digits to four or fewer using base 10 for sizes. .It Fl h "Human-readable" output. Use unit suffixes: Byte, Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte and Petabyte in order to reduce the number of -digits to three or less using base 2 for sizes. +digits to four or fewer using base 2 for sizes. .It Fl i Include statistics on the number of free inodes. .It Fl k Index: ls.1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/bin/ls/ls.1,v retrieving revision 1.62 diff -u -r1.62 ls.1 --- ls.1 9 Jan 2002 13:29:39 -0000 1.62 +++ ls.1 21 Feb 2002 18:50:39 -0000 @@ -170,7 +170,7 @@ When used wih the .Fl l option, use unit suffixes: Byte, Kilobyte, Megabyte, Gigabyte, Terabyte -and Petabyte in order to reduce the number of digits to three or less +and Petabyte in order to reduce the number of digits to four or fewer using base 2 for sizes. .It Fl i For each file, print the file's file serial number (inode number). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 18:41:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f86.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E15A37B400 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:41:24 -0800 Received: from 66.58.156.157 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 02:41:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.58.156.157] From: "snow man" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jeffh@harborent.com Subject: Commercial User List Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 17:41:23 -0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2002 02:41:24.0272 (UTC) FILETIME=[1347A300:01C1C326] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a question about your list of commercial users referenced on your site. Specifically is hotmail.com still running on FreeBSD? I work for a systems integrator and we had a Microsoft tech guy up here (in Alaska) working with us on a project. As technical types are apt to do while working at 2:00 AM we were talking about other project we have worked on. During some point one night, while we were waiting for a cluster of Win2K servers to reboot (again), he mentioned that hotmail.com was migrated to, "an entirely Microsoft based environment" except for a few "legacy" bits & pieces. Two hours of loud discussions amongst the four or five guys there that remotely searched the web & probed the hotmail.com net for some proof of this claim came up empty. So...I figured I'd ask you folks for your less-biased report of the number of FreeBSD boxes they use and what "degree" of truth there might be to his claim. While I'd never doubt a Microsoft representative from, um, stretching the truth a bit I have my own personal doubts about NT/MS Exchange supporting hotmail.com with just MS labeled products. thanks, dan garrett _______________________________________________ It's difficult to comprehend how insane some people can be. Especially when you're insane. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 20:50: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA34037B402 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g244o2Y47073; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203040450.g244o2Y47073@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35523; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Tomas Svensson Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 23:49:23 -0500 Tomas Svensson wrote: Personal opinion here, and noone has to listen ;) but I like the use of ``less'' over ``fewer'' but that makes no need for another patch ;) -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 21: 2:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434E237B402 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu (cpe-gan-24-136-48-56-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.48.56]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2452Xl24286; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3C82FFE9.F11E2391@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 00:02:33 -0500 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) References: <200203040450.g244o2Y47073@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes wrote: > > The following reply was made to PR docs/35523; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Tom Rhodes > To: Tomas Svensson > Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) > Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 23:49:23 -0500 > > Tomas Svensson wrote: > > > Personal opinion here, and noone has to listen ;) but I like the use of > ``less'' over ``fewer'' but that > makes no need for another patch ;) > In most of the world, 'fewer' would be considered a more correct usage. Or, at least, it would have back when people cared about such details. - Bob > -- > Tom Rhodes > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 21:13:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vms1.rit.edu (vms1.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4864337B417 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sonic.rit.edu ([129.21.10.39]) by ritvax.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #40294) with ESMTPA id <01KEXYGLCY70FN7NL7@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:13:29 EST Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 00:11:56 -0500 From: Matt Penna Subject: Re: Commercial User List In-reply-to: X-Sender: mdp1261@vmspop.isc.rit.edu To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: snow man Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020304000156.01f121c0@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:41 PM 3/3/02 -0900, snow man wrote: >I have a question about your list of commercial users referenced on your >site. Specifically is hotmail.com still running on FreeBSD? I work for a >systems integrator and we had a Microsoft tech guy up here (in Alaska) >working with us on a project. As technical types are apt to do while >working at 2:00 AM we were talking about other project we have worked on. >During some point one night, while we were waiting for a cluster of Win2K >servers to reboot (again), he mentioned that hotmail.com was migrated to, >"an entirely Microsoft based environment" except for a few "legacy" bits & >pieces. Dan, I was given a link to this article when it was first written in December: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/23348.html Assuming the information is accurate, it still runs in part on FreeBSD. Though The Register itself does not have a reputation for being the most objective of sources, I'm just passing the information along for your (and the list's) edification and amusement. Maybe others here can offer specifics. Matt -- Matt Penna mdp1261@rit.edu ICQ: 399825 S0ba on AOLIM "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're very sophisticated idiots." -Dr. Who To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 23: 1:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB8D37B402; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (c2.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.2]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g24730q07420; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:03:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C831C28.2050006@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 02:03:04 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas , Michael Lucas , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200202262110.g1QLA2f07435@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020302152507.A83170@blackhelicopters.org> <20020302230131.GA99866@hades.hell.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Giorgos Keramidas wrote: < snip some junk :) > > >> >> There is no need for users to have unique home directories >> - on every machine on your network. Once they have an established >> - directory that is available via NFS it can be accessed from >> - anywhere. >> + on every network machine. Home directories could be setup on the >> + NFS server and made available throughout the network. >> >> > >I'd probably go for "There is no need for users to have separate ..." here. >'Unique' is almost exclusively used when a reference to a set of objects is >made, and emphasis on their being different is needed. > This was not really an easy one to understand, after reading it over and over again with both words, I did an append here. The quick s/unique/separate/ took no real time and i'm going to whip up another patch for you ;) > > >> >> - Storage devices such as floppies and CDROM drives can be >> - used by other machines on the network eliminating the need for >> - extra hardware. >> + Storage devices such as floppy disks, CDROM drives, and ZIP drives >> + can be used by other machines on the network. This may reduce the number >> + of removable media drives. >> > >Number of 'required' or 'necessary' media drives? >Whose number of media drives? > Added: throughout the network at the very end here, to me it sounds better "of removable media drives throughout the network" > > >> + NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server >> + and at least one client. The client remotely accesses the data that is stored >> + on the server machine. In order for this to function properly a few >> + processes have to be configured and running: >> > >Whitespace nit. If you use tab for initial line indentation, please use it >consistently, before commiting this; since this replaces the entire >paragraph, it doesn't count as a 'whitespace only change'. > Done :) were right in check now! > > >> + The portmapper daemon >> + allows NFS clients to discover which port the NFS server >> + is using. >> > >Whitespace nit. Since this is an entirely new , could we have it >properly indented and wrapped too? (For some definition of 'properly' that >fits the style of the rest of this document.) > I see what you mean, and like above, this has been corrected in patch number 5 :) > > >> + The client can also run a daemon, known as >> + nfsiod. The nfsiod >> + daemon services the requests from the NFS server. This >> + is optional, and improves performance, but is not required for normal >> + and correct operation. See the &man.nfsiod.8; man page for more information. >> > >s/man page/manual page/ > >This is not some doc-policy style of thing, but I tend to prefer one of >these two forms: > > * The &blah; manual page. > > * You can find out by checking out &man.blah; how this is done. > >I'm not really that sure about this though. It's really up to you two to >decide if you like one of these two any better. > I think this convention should be a doc standard, as it would be best to keep all the manual page refereances similar, it sounds bad when you have one person in chapter 3 say "check the man page" and someone in chapter 7 say "please review the manual page" Which sounds more realistic to you? I will take number 2 personally :) Perhaps whoever is working on the primer, if anyone, could add this to it, along with the no underscores in man entitys (ie: &man.pkg_add.1; is NO while &man.pkg.add.1; is YES) Whileist that person is at it, we could also use some info on the option. I know that we have a few other tags not listed there, but I just cannot think of any at 01:30 EST :) > >> + mountd runs automatically whenever the >> + NFS server is enabled. >> > >Indentation needs fix0ring, and there's a missing . > More proof that I have been working to hard latly :( diff(1) here I come! > > >> nfs_client_enable="YES" >> -nfs_client_flags="-n 4" >> - >> - Like nfsd, the tells >> - nfsiod to start 4 copies of itself. >> + >> > >Should we close on the first and 'last' line of content? > > nfs_client_enable="YES" > I have seen times where it was right at the closing on the next line, and on the current line. Because I was removing some text I did not really wish to remove the entire line. In my patch this has been changed, if mw lucas does not like it, than he can newline it upon the initial commit. ;) > > >> + >> + The /etc/exports >> ... >> + that can be used in this file but only a few will be mentioned here. You can easily discover >> + other options by reading over the &man.exports.5; manual page. >> + >> > >Please indent a bit, wrap the replacement paragraph to some reasonable >length, and make ... cuddle to the text within, at the >beginning and end of it, like the rest of the text does: > > ... > ... > >> + The following examples give an idea of how to export filesystems, >> + although the settings may be different depending on >> + your environment and network configuration. >> + The following line exports /cdrom to >> + three example machines that have the same domain name as the server >> > >I'm a little uncomfortable with two sentences that both start with 'The >following'. The second could probably be rewritten as: > > For instance, to export /cdrom ... > Here I did: "For instance, to export the /cdrom directory to three example machines" I did not use "mount point" as I really did not wish to confuse anyone :) > > >> + The following line exports /a so that two >> + clients from different domains may access the filesystem. The >> + flag allows the root >> + user on the remote system to write data on the exported filesystem as >> > >That same tab vs. space thing for initial indentation, again :-/ > >Since there are many places where tabs and spaces have been mixed in >indentation, I'll probably shuttup now. > >> + The &man.fstab.5; manual page lists all the available options. >> > >Wheeeee :) >"The &foo; manual page." :) >Thanks, thanks! > >> + Set several machines to share a CDROM or >> + other media among them. This is cheaper and often >> + more convenient. >> > >Than what? > reworded to: "This is a cheaper and often a more convenient method to install software on multiple machines" keeping the current "mutiple machines" term, and providing an understandable idea. Hopefully this extra line will get the gears turning in our readers mind about other uses. > > >> + Several machines could have a common /usr/ports/distfiles >> > >wrap? > >[-- Finally --] > >Excellent work! I haven't used NFS in a while, and I am probably not the >best guy to comment on technical parts of this, but it looks great. Very >easy to follow, IMHO. > Good ;) I think thats the goal here. > > >My apologies, if commenting now is a bit late, and has you thinking things >like 'Ya, right, Mr. Anal Retentiveness, where were you when we were >writing this stuff?'. I seem to have a complete lack of organization in >my time schedule these last weeks, and I keep forgetting TODO stuff. > >Cheers, > To be honest, I will be the first to admit that free time is not always availible when I want it. Better late than never. I hope you will enjoy this new patch ;) -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Mar 3 23:10:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C625D37B419 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g247A1Y75400; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35098; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:08:09 -0500 (EST) diff -ru handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml --- handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Wed Feb 27 00:08:02 2002 +++ handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Mon Mar 4 02:05:40 2002 @@ -648,6 +648,13 @@ + Tom + Rhodes + Reorganized and enhanced by + + + + Bill Swingle Written by @@ -658,44 +665,41 @@ NFS Among the many different file systems that FreeBSD supports is - the Network File System or NFS. NFS allows you - to share directories and files on one machine with others - via the network they are attached to. Using NFS, users and - programs can access files on remote systems as if they were local + the Network File System, also known as NFS. + NFS allows a system to share directories and files + with others over a network. By using NFS, users and + programs can access files on remote systems almost as if they were local files. - NFS has several benefits: + Some of the most notable benefits that NFS can provide are: - Local workstations do not need as much disk space because + Local workstations use less disk space because commonly used data can be stored on a single machine and still - remain accessible to everyone on the network. + remain accessible to others over the network. - There is no need for users to have unique home directories - on every machine on your network. Once they have an established - directory that is available via NFS it can be accessed from - anywhere. + There is no need for users to have separate home directories + on every network machine. Home directories could be setup on the + NFS server and made available throughout the network. - Storage devices such as floppies and CDROM drives can be - used by other machines on the network eliminating the need for - extra hardware. + Storage devices such as floppy disks, CDROM drives, and ZIP drives + can be used by other machines on the network. This may reduce the number + of removable media drives throoughout the network. - How It Works + How <acronym>NFS</acronym> Works - NFS is composed of two sides – a client side and a - server side. Think of it as a want/have relationship. The client - wants the data that the server side - has. The server shares its data with the - client. In order for this system to function properly a few - processes have to be configured and running. + NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server + and at least one client. The client remotely accesses the data that is stored + on the server machine. In order for this to function properly a few + processes have to be configured and running: The server has to be running the following daemons: @@ -723,141 +727,127 @@ nfsd - The NFS Daemon which services requests from NFS - clients. + The NFS daemon which services requests from + the NFS clients. mountd - The NFS Mount Daemon which actually carries out - requests that &man.nfsd.8; passes on to it. + The NFS mount daemon which carries out + the requests that &man.nfsd.8; passes on to it. portmap - The portmapper daemon which - allows NFS clients to find out which port the NFS server - is using. + The portmapper daemon + allows NFS clients to discover which port the NFS server + is using. - The client side only needs to run a single daemon: - - NFS - client - - - nfsiod - - - - - - - nfsiod - The NFS async I/O Daemon which services requests - from its NFS server. - - - - + The client can also run a daemon, known as + nfsiod. The nfsiod + daemon services the requests from the NFS server. This + is optional, and improves performance, but is not required for normal + and correct operation. See the &man.nfsiod.8; manual page for more information. + - Configuring NFS + Configuring <acronym>NFS</acronym> NFS configuration - Luckily for us, on a FreeBSD system this setup is a snap. The - processes that need to be running can all be run at boot time with + NFS configuration is relatively straightforward + process. The processes that need to be running can all start at boot time with a few modifications to your /etc/rc.conf - file. + file. - On the NFS server make sure you have: + On the NFS server, make sure that the following options + are configured in the /etc/rc.conf file: portmap_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" -nfs_server_flags="-u -t -n 4" mountd_flags="-r" - mountd is automatically run whenever the - NFS server is enabled. The and - flags to nfsd tell it to - serve UDP and TCP clients. The flag tells - nfsd to start 4 copies of itself. - - On the client, make sure you have: - - nfs_client_enable="YES" -nfs_client_flags="-n 4" - - Like nfsd, the tells - nfsiod to start 4 copies of itself. - - The last configuration step requires that you create a file - called /etc/exports. The exports file - specifies which file systems on your server will be shared - (a.k.a., exported) and with what clients they will - be shared. Each line in the file specifies a file system to be - shared. There are a handful of options that can be used in this - file but only a few will be mentioned here. You can find out - about the rest in the &man.exports.5; manual page. + mountd runs automatically whenever the + NFS server is enabled. + + On the client, make sure this option is present in + /etc/rc.conf: + + nfs_client_enable="YES" + + + The /etc/exports + file specifies which filesystems NFS should export (sometimes + referred to as share). + Each line in /etc/exports specifies a filesystem to be exported and + which machines have access to that filesystem. Along with what machines have access + to that filesystem, access options may also be specified. There are many such options + that can be used in this file but only a few will be mentioned here. You can easily discover + other options by reading over the &man.exports.5; manual page. Here are a few example /etc/exports entries: NFS - exporting filesystems + Examples of exporting filesystems - The following line exports /cdrom to - three silly machines that have the same domain name as the server + + The following examples give an idea of how to export filesystems, + although the settings may be different depending on + your environment and network configuration. + For instance, to export the /cdrom directory to + three example machines that have the same domain name as the server (hence the lack of a domain name for each) or have entries in your /etc/hosts file. The - flag makes the shared file system read-only. With this flag, the - remote system will not be able to make any changes to the - shared file system. + flag makes the exported file system read-only. With this flag, the + remote system will not be able to write any changes to the + exported file system. - /cdrom -ro moe larry curly + /cdrom -ro host1 host2 host3 The following line exports /home to three hosts by IP address. This is a useful setup if you have a - private network but do not have DNS running. The - flag allows all the directories below - the specified file system to be exported as well. + private network without a DNS server configured. + Optionally the /etc/hosts file could be configured + for internal hostnames; please review &man.hosts.5; for more + information. The flag allows the directories + below the specified filesystem to also be exported. /home -alldirs 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 10.0.0.4 - The following line exports /a to two - machines that have different domain names than the server. The - flag allows - the root user on the remote system to write to the shared - file system as root. Without the -maproot=0 flag even if - someone has root access on the remote system they will not - be able to modify files on the shared file system. + The following line exports /a so that two + clients from different domains may access the filesystem. The + flag allows the root + user on the remote system to write data on the exported filesystem as + root. If the -maproot=0 flag is not specified, then even if + a user has root access on the remote system, they will not + be able to modify files on the exported filesystem. - /a -maproot=0 host.domain.com box.example.com + /a -maproot=0 host.example.com box.example.org - In order for a client to access- an exported file system it must - have permission to do so. Make sure your client is listed in your + In order for a client to access an exported filesystem, the client must + have permission to do so. Make sure the client is listed in your /etc/exports file. In /etc/exports, each line represents the export information for one filesystem to one host. A - remote host can only be specified once for each local - filesystem, and you can only have one default entry per local - filesystem. For example, let's assume that - /usr is a single filesystem. The - following /etc/exports is invalid: + remote host can only be specified once per filesystem, and may only + have one default entry. For example, assume that /usr + is a single filesystem. The following /etc/exports + would be valid: /usr/src client /usr/ports client One filesystem, /usr, has two lines - specifying its exports to the same host, - client. The correct format is: + specifying exports to the same host, client. + The correct format for this situation is: /usr/src /usr/ports client @@ -874,40 +864,41 @@ # client01 has root privileges on it /usr/src /usr/ports -maproot=0 client01 /usr/src /usr/ports client02 -# The "client" machines have root and can mount anywhere -# up /exports. Anyone inhe world can mount /exports/obj read-only +# The client machines have root and can mount anywhere +# on /exports. Anyone in the world can mount /exports/obj read-only /exports -alldirs -maproot=0 client01 client02 /exports/obj -ro You must restart mountd whenever you modify - /etc/exports to make changes take - effect. This can be accomplished by sending the hangup signal + /etc/exports so the changes can take effect. + This can be accomplished by sending the hangup signal to the mountd process: &prompt.root; kill -HUP `cat /var/run/mountd.pid` - Now that you have made all these changes you can just reboot - and let FreeBSD start everything for you at boot time, or you can - run the following commands as root: + Alternatively, a reboot will make FreeBSD set everything + up properly. A reboot is not necessary though. + Executing the following commands as root, + should start everything up. - On the NFS server: + On the NFS server: &prompt.root; portmap &prompt.root; nfsd -u -t -n 4 &prompt.root; mountd -r - On the NFS client: + On the NFS client: &prompt.root; nfsiod -n 4 - Now you should be ready to actually mount a remote file - system. This can be done one of two ways. In these examples the + Now everything should be ready to actually mount a remote file + system. In these examples the server's name will be server and the client's - name will be client. If you just want to - temporarily mount a remote file system or just want to test out - your configuration you can run a command like this as root on the - client: + name will be client. If you only want to + temporarily mount a remote file system or would rather test the + configuration, just execute a command like this as root on the + client: NFS mounting filesystems @@ -916,56 +907,59 @@ This will mount the /home directory on the server at /mnt on the client. If - everything is setup correctly you should be able to go into - /mnt on the client and see all the files that are on the - server. - - If you want to automatically mount a remote file system - each time the computer boots, add the filesystem to - /etc/fstab. Here is an example: + everything is set up correctly you should be able to enter + /mnt on the client and see all the files + that are on the server. + + If you want to automatically mount a remote filesystem + each time the computer boots, add the filesystem to the + /etc/fstab file. Here is an example: server:/home /mnt nfs rw 0 0 - Read the &man.fstab.5; manual page for more options. + The &man.fstab.5; manual page lists all the available options. Practical Uses - There are many very cool uses for NFS. Some of the more common - ones are listed below. + NFS has many practical uses. Some of the more common + ones are listed below: + + The following NFS examples require + NFS to be correctly configured before actual use, + as previously discussed. + + NFS uses - Have several machines on a network and share a CDROM or - floppy drive among them. This is cheaper and often more - convenient. + Set several machines to share a CDROM or + other media among them. This is cheaper and often + a more convenient method to install software on multiple machines. - With so many machines on a network, it gets old having your - personal files strewn all over the place. You can have a - central NFS server that houses all user home directories and - shares them with the rest of the machines on the LAN, so no - matter where you log in you will have the same home - directory. + On large networks, it might be more convenient to configure a + central NFS server in which to store all the user + home directories. These home directories can then be exported to + the network so that users would always have the same home directory, + regardless of which workstation they log in to. - When you get to reinstalling FreeBSD on one of your - machines, NFS is the way to go! Just pop your distribution - CDROM into your file server and away you go! + You can use an exported CDROM to install + software on multiple machines. - Have a common /usr/ports/distfiles - directory that all your machines share. That way, when you go - to install a port that you have already installed on a different - machine, you do not have to download the source all over - again! + Several machines could have a common + /usr/ports/distfiles directory. + That way, when you need to install a port on several machines, you can + quickly access the source without downloading it on each machine. @@ -992,14 +986,15 @@ amd automatic mounter daemon - &man.amd.8;, which is also known as the automatic mounter - daemon, is a useful utility used for automatically mounting a + &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) + is a useful that automatically mounts a remote filesystem whenever a file or directory within that filesystem is accessed. Filesystems that are inactive for a period of time will also be automatically unmounted by amd. Using - amd provides a simplistic alternative - to static mounts. + amd provides a simple alternative + to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts should be listed in the + /etc/fstab. amd operates by attaching itself as an NFS server to the /host and To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 1:20:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E12337B416 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g249K1m03089; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ldc.ro (ldc-gw.rdsnet.ro [213.157.163.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B47E137B404 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 57758 invoked by uid 666); 4 Mar 2002 09:19:38 -0000 Message-Id: <20020304091938.57665.qmail@ldc.ro> Date: 4 Mar 2002 09:19:38 -0000 From: Alex Popa Reply-To: Alex Popa To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35530: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35530 >Category: docs >Synopsis: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 04 01:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alex Popa >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: Colegiul National Cantemir-Voda >Environment: System: FreeBSD ns.ldc.ro 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #3: Sat Feb 16 18:06:33 EET 2002 root@ns.ldc.ro:/usr/src/sys/compile/NS i386 >Description: There are two new official freebsd mirrors in Romania: www2.ro.freebsd.org (www mirror) cvsup.ro.freebsd.org (cvsup mirror) They have already been added to the .ro.freebsd.org domain. I am the admin of both those new mirrors: Alex Popa, razor@ldc.ro >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please add the new mirrors to the handbook and www page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 1:20:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4C37B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16hodn-0003w5-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:20:19 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16hodW-0000gq-00; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:20:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:20:02 +0000 From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 11:10:01PM -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: Ok, I'm late in the game, but I have some changes that aren't just cosmetic that I'd like to see made. Sorry Tom ;) > + Tom > + Rhodes > + Reorganized and enhanced by > + > + > + > + Should there be multiple elements ? (I don't know, I'm asking). > + NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server > + and at least one client. I don't like this - "at least" occurs at least once too often, imho. > + nfsiod. The nfsiod > + daemon services the requests from the NFS server. This > + is optional, and improves performance, but is not required for normal > + and correct operation. See the &man.nfsiod.8; manual page for more information. I've read the manual page, and I'm not really any the wiser here. nfsiod services async requests according to the manpage - what if i don't have any filesystems mounted async ? Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ? While this may not be the best place to answer such questions, they're questions that I have after reading this chapter, and they aren't answered anywhere else. > + NFS configuration is relatively straightforward > + process. The processes that need to be running can all start at boot time with ... a relatively... ^^^ > + information. The flag allows the directories > + below the specified filesystem to also be exported. Um, no it doesn't. Not really. This reads as though failing to specify -alldirs will allow me to mount /home, but will not result in /home/setantae being exported. The -alldirs flag actually allows the directories below the specified filesystem to be used as the root of a mount point, i.e. using the line below will allow 10.0.0.[2-4] to mount /home/setantae from the server. Now try turning that into English :) > /home -alldirs 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 10.0.0.4 > + The following line exports /a so that two > + clients from different domains may access the filesystem. The > + flag allows the root I'd rather see -maproot=root here (and everywhere else). Although that may cause problems interoperating with Plan9, where the superuser appears to be called "glenda", it doesn't make it look as though something is being "turned off". > + Executing the following commands as root, > + should start everything up. Kill that comma ? > + The following NFS examples require > + NFS to be correctly configured before actual use, > + as previously discussed. > + Well, duh! Can we just kill this note ? > + &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) > + is a useful that automatically mounts a A useful what ? Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 1:54:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from frcmr1001.accenture.com (frcmr1001.accenture.com [195.27.74.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7FF37B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from emehm1104.accenture.com (emehm1104.accenture.com [10.135.64.208]) by frcmr1001.accenture.com (Switch-2.0.6/Switch-2.0.6) with ESMTP id g249rg809033 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:53:42 +0100 (MET) Subject: mincore(2) typo To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: peter.kusenda@accenture.com Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:54:00 +0100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EMEHM1104/Server/Accenture(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04.03.2002 10:54:02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, maybe this is not important, I just want to signalise a typo in man pag= es: mincore(2) contains word "virtial" - perhaps should be virtual = =20 = =20 = =20 Peter Kusenda = =20 Accenture GmbH = =20 Otto-Volger-Stra=DFe 15 = =20 D-65843 Sulzbach, Taunus = =20 Communications and High Tech = =20 Telefon +49 6196 57-67874 = =20 Telefax +49 6196 57-50 = =20 (Octel, Global VPN: 46/67874) = =20 peter.kusenda@accenture.com = =20 = =20 This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. 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Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 3:33:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF1437B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 465224B661; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:33:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:33:07 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Andriy Mysyk Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: link Message-ID: <20020304113307.GZ3250@freebsdmall.com> References: <000001c1c2c6$98937bc0$2e6a1c18@TUZIK> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c1c2c6$98937bc0$2e6a1c18@TUZIK> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 10:17:58PM -0600, Andriy Mysyk wrote: > FYI, http://www.wccdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdcomp_bkx.phtml link on > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bibliography.html# > BIBLIOGRAPHY-FREEBSD is not working. Thanks, I've updated the link. It may take up to 24 hours for the change to be visible on the web site. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 3:47:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB1437B417; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 9A7284B661; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:47:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:47:29 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Robert Watson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Request for help putting Developer Summit notes and content online Message-ID: <20020304114729.GA3250@freebsdmall.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:10:02PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > As many of you know, we held a FreeBSD Developer Summit following the BSD > Conference in San Francisco a few weeks ago. We have a variety of > materials we'd like to put online from that summit, including extensive > notes, list of attendees, thumbnails of attendees, etc. I'd like to > solicit help from an active docs committer to... >=20 > (1) Figure out where it should go -- web page? Developer handbook? ... I don't think this belongs in the Developer Handbook. I might suggest one of the following : www/en/events/bsdcon02 www/en/summits/bsdcon02 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/bsdcon02-summit I'm not sure what kind of content you've gathered, so it's not clear to me whether this would look weird as a standalone article or not. You did an excellent job organizing the summit, and I'm glad you've gathered so much material for us to document. Hmm. Other ideas about where to put this material? - Murray --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8g17QtNcQog5FH30RAp43AKCwbu2dU4qQI06U6sls+QZ+rZjAKgCghbhS j5z36moNKYdr0yEJsXOCuro= =Sxv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qlTNgmc+xy1dBmNv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 4: 3:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9C37B402; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 51CA04B661; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:03:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:03:00 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Murray Stokely Cc: Robert Watson , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Request for help putting Developer Summit notes and content online Message-ID: <20020304120300.GC3250@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020304114729.GA3250@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020304114729.GA3250@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 03:47:29AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > www/en/events/bsdcon02 > www/en/summits/bsdcon02 On second though, I would prefer www/en/events/2002/bsdcon. This is more orthogonal with our own news page and easier to extend as more events are added. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 6: 5:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vagabond.auriga.ru (vagabond.auriga.ru [80.240.102.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAD037B416 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 06:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by vagabond.auriga.ru (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g24E5Dq12418 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:05:13 +0300 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; charset="koi8-r"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_PGCGMP44UKTF1RZ6FEV6" From: "Alexey V. Neyman" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: please review proposed EVENTHANDLER(9) manpage Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:05:13 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0203041705130D.22942@vagabond.auriga.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_PGCGMP44UKTF1RZ6FEV6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello there, Thanks to Ruslan Ermilov for redirecting me to the right list. Attached is a proposed EVENTHANDLER(9) manpage. (Copyright slightly changed from the version posten on -hackers - as it was pointed to me, I'd be copyright holder, not UCB :-) If it looks OK, feel free to commit it. Regards, Alexey. PS. Please Cc: me. I'm not subscribed to this list. -- <-------------------------> ) May the Sun and Water ( Regards, Alexey V. Neyman ) always fall upon you! ( mailto:alex.neyman@auriga.ru <-------------------------> --------------Boundary-00=_PGCGMP44UKTF1RZ6FEV6 Content-Type: application/x-troff; charset="koi8-r"; name="EVENTHANDLER.9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="EVENTHANDLER.9" .\" Copyright (c) 2002 Alexey Neyman .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions .\" are met: .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by the University of .\" California, Berkeley and its contributors. .\" 4. Neither the name of the University nor the names of its contributors .\" may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software .\" without specific prior written permission. .\" .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" .\" $FreeBSD$ .\" .Dd March 4, 2002 .Os .Dt EVENTHANDLER 9 .Sh NAME .Nm EVENTHANDLER_DECLARE , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_DEREGISTER , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DECLARE , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DEFINE , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_FAST_REGISTER , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DEREGISTER , .Nm EVENTHANDLER_FAST_INVOKE .Nd manage event callout queues .Sh SYNOPSIS .In sys/eventhandler.h .Fn EVENTHANDLER_DECLARE "name" "type" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER "name" "func" "arg" "priority" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_DEREGISTER "name" "tag" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE "name" "args..." .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DECLARE "name" "type" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DEFINE "name" "type" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_REGISTER "name" "func" "arg" "priority" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DEREGISTER "name" "tag" .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_INVOKE "name" "args..." .Sh DESCRIPTION These macros setup and execute callout queues for miscellaneous events in the kernel. They all accept the .Fa name argument, which serves as a unique identifier of the queue. .Pp The .Fn EVENTHANDLER_DECLARE macro declares a queue with given name and given type of the callout function. The queues are allocated dynamically upon the first insertion with the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER macro. .Pp The .Fn EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER macro inserts a new item in the specified list. If the list does not exist, it is created. This macro evaluates to eventhandler_tag value, which can be later used to remove the handler from the queue with the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_DEREGISTER macro. .Dv NULL value is returned upon failure. The .Fa arg parameter will always be passed as a first argument to callout function. The .Fa priority argument defines the order of handler invocations. .Pp The .Fn EVENTHANDLER_DEREGISTER macro removes a handler from the queue, using the value returned by the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER macro. If .Dv NULL is passed as a second argument, all handlers will be removed from the specified queue. .Pp The .Fn EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE macro calls each handler in the queue. The first argument to the callout function is the argument specified with the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER macro, subsequent arguments are passed through .Fn EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE invocation. The handlers will be executed in order of increasing priority. .Pp The .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_XXX macros are similar to their equivalents, but the queues are allocated statically. Thus the queue must be defined somewhere with the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DEFINE macro. This macro takes the same arguments as the .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_DECLARE macro. .Pp Generally, .Fn EVENTHANDLER_XXX macros are preferred over .Fn EVENTHANDLER_FAST_XXX ones. .Sh EXAMPLES .Bd -literal typedef void (*myhandler_fun)(void *, int); eventhandler_tag et; void myfunc(void *a, int b) {} EVENTHANDLER_DECLARE(myqueue, myhandler_fun); et = EVENTHANDLER_REGISTER(myqueue, myfunction, NULL, 0); EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(myqueue, 14); EVENTHANDLER_DEREGISTER(myqueue, et); .Ed .Sh AUTHORS .An -nosplit This manual page was written by .An Alexey Neyman Aq alex.neyman@auriga.ru . --------------Boundary-00=_PGCGMP44UKTF1RZ6FEV6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 7:20: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E90737B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24FK3N73754; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:20:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203041520.g24FK3N73754@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35523; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: Tomas Svensson Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 10:29:26 -0500 Tomas Svensson wrote: > Monday, March 04, 2002, 5:49:23 AM, you wrote: > > TR> Personal opinion here, and noone has to listen ;) but I like the use of > TR> ``less'' over ``fewer'' but that > TR> makes no need for another patch ;) > > "less" is a mass noun while "fewer" is a count noun. > > -Tomas > > > > > Ok i'm quiet ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 7:54:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7466837B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g24Ftxq08103; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:56:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 11:05:38 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 11:10:01PM -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Ok, I'm late in the game, but I have some changes that aren't just cosmetic > that I'd like to see made. > > Sorry Tom ;) You better be hehehe. Keramida was late in the game, and the current game is "comments from others" and many of your are very relevant... Lets go through them real quick, maybe we can come to an agreement of some sorts that will be both benificial for reader/user and writer/author > > > >> + Tom >> + Rhodes >> + Reorganized and enhanced by >> + >> + >> + >> + >> > > Should there be multiple elements ? > (I don't know, I'm asking). This is how I have seen it used in other parts of the handbook, I felt that was the proper way to do it :) I don't really see any other way in the FDP, if Nik (or anyone for that matter) would like to shed some light here, i'd be glad to listen hehe > > >> + NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server >> + and at least one client. >> > > I don't like this - "at least" occurs at least once too often, imho. How does "a minimial of one client" sound to you? > > >> + nfsiod. The nfsiod >> + daemon services the requests from the NFS server. This >> + is optional, and improves performance, but is not required for normal >> + and correct operation. See the &man.nfsiod.8; manual page for more information. >> > > I've read the manual page, and I'm not really any the wiser here. > nfsiod services async requests according to the manpage - what if i don't have > any filesystems mounted async ? > Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ? Well would you want them? and I don't use Solaris, not for NFS anyways, so I would have no clue what your talking about it you even mentioned biod. If you want to reword that to help the Solaris boys please offer an opinion as I'm at a loss. > > While this may not be the best place to answer such questions, they're > questions that I have after reading this chapter, and they aren't answered > anywhere else. I would need to ask the #solaris guys, and hope I do not get a (kick RTFM) hehe. > > >> + NFS configuration is relatively straightforward >> + process. The processes that need to be running can all start at boot time with >> > > .. a relatively... > ^^^ Noted ;) >> + information. The flag allows the directories >> + below the specified filesystem to also be exported. >> > > Um, no it doesn't. Not really. > This reads as though failing to specify -alldirs will allow me to mount > /home, but will not result in /home/setantae being exported. > The -alldirs flag actually allows the directories below the specified > filesystem to be used as the root of a mount point, i.e. using the line > below will allow 10.0.0.[2-4] to mount /home/setantae from the server. > Now try turning that into English :) I am trying to think of a better example, this one made me think for a few moments ;) But the ``vision'' is approching ;) > > >> /home -alldirs 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 10.0.0.4 >> > >> + The following line exports /a so that two >> + clients from different domains may access the filesystem. The >> + flag allows the root >> > > I'd rather see -maproot=root here (and everywhere else). > Although that may cause problems interoperating with Plan9, where the superuser > appears to be called "glenda", it doesn't make it look as though something > is being "turned off". I can agree with this, although about the Plan9 interoperation problem, that SHOULD be documented on their side. Most *nix versions use the root user ;) > > >> + Executing the following commands as root, >> + should start everything up. >> > > Kill that comma ? > > >> + The following NFS examples require >> + NFS to be correctly configured before actual use, >> + as previously discussed. >> + >> > > Well, duh! > Can we just kill this note ? > > >> + &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) >> + is a useful that automatically mounts a >> > > A useful what ? > > Ceri > > > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 9: 0:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA91B37B417 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24H02s29983; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from Kain.sumuk.de (Kain.sumuk.de [213.221.86.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763CE37B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 08:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Moses.earth.sol (Moses.earth.sol [192.168.1.1]) by Kain.sumuk.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g24GwEd54297 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:58:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from martin@sumuk.de) Received: (from vincent@localhost) by Moses.earth.sol (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24GwCT01187; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:58:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from vincent) Message-Id: <200203041658.g24GwCT01187@sumuk.de> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:58:12 +0100 (CET) From: Martin Heinen Reply-To: Martin Heinen To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35539: [PATCH] config-tuning: clean up after revision 1.42 and 1.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35539 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] config-tuning: clean up after revision 1.42 and 1.43 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 04 09:00:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Martin Heinen >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD Moses.earth.sol 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 22 07:35:30 CET 2001 toor@Moses.earth.sol:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOSES i386 >Description: removed a ) which was left over in revision 1.42, completed rename of i-node to inode (revision 1.43) >How-To-Repeat: read the section 'Tuning Disks' in the handbook >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /u/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/config/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -r1.44 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 28 Feb 2002 22:38:15 -0000 1.44 +++ chapter.sgml 4 Mar 2002 16:06:20 -0000 @@ -923,13 +923,13 @@ their way out of the buffer cache onto the disk by the time of the crash, &man.fsck.8; is able to recognize this and repair the filesystem by setting the file length to - 0). Additionally, the implementation is clear and simple. + 0. Additionally, the implementation is clear and simple. The disadvantage is that meta-data changes are slow. An rm -r, for instance, touches all the files in a directory sequentially, but each directory change (deletion of a file) will be written synchronously to the disk. This includes updates to the directory itself, - to the i-node table, and possibly to indirect blocks + to the inode table, and possibly to indirect blocks allocated by the file. Similar considerations apply for unrolling large hierarchies (tar -x). @@ -953,7 +953,7 @@ will be left in an unpredictable state. There is no opportunity to examine the state of the file system when the system comes up again; the data blocks of a file could already have - been written to the disk while the updates of the i-node + been written to the disk while the updates of the inode table or the associated directory were not. It is actually impossible to implement a fsck which is able to clean up the resulting chaos (because the necessary >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 9:56:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web20502.mail.yahoo.com (web20502.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C897F37B44B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:55:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020304175547.56815.qmail@web20502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.158.50.232] by web20502.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 09:55:47 PST Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:55:47 -0800 (PST) From: cumi laut Subject: subscrib me To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscrib me __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 10:32:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7763F37B405; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:32:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24IPKN49878; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:25:20 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203041825.g24IPKN49878@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35539: [PATCH] config-tuning: clean up after revision 1.42 and 1.43 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] config-tuning: clean up after revision 1.42 and 1.43 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: tom State-Changed-When: Mon Mar 4 10:24:17 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied - thanks for fixing my mistakes! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35539 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 11: 1:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0322E37B402 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:01:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24J10K55432 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:01:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203041901.g24J10K55432@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2001/10/14] docs/31265 doc crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allo o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/02/14] docs/34947 doc Updated/Translated Article on Filtering B o [2002/02/28] docs/35420 doc Fix some errors in my chroot'ing named se o [2002/02/28] docs/35430 doc [Maintainer Update] Filtering-Bridges Art 7 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. s [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/06] docs/27915 doc man 5 passwd does not properly explain th o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/22] docs/29143 doc List of man pages that need to be written o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP f [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/13] docs/30556 doc vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit o [2001/09/24] docs/30809 doc fdisk(8) cleanup o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/10/30] docs/31640 doc Avoiding uppercase program names in manpa o [2001/10/30] docs/31653 doc Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables o [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. a [2001/11/26] docs/32323 doc man page `named(8)' do not have link for o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/03] docs/32468 doc broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs s [2001/12/07] docs/32578 doc A _really_ petty change to the front page o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2001/12/13] docs/32825 doc undocumented options in LINT o [2001/12/30] docs/33354 doc no rsync section in mirror chapter of the o [2002/01/05] docs/33585 doc Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33586 doc An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/01/18] docs/34038 doc [NEW ARTICLE] Upgrading a.out to Elf o [2002/01/20] docs/34088 doc a.out(5) fails to explain what bss is o [2002/01/22] docs/34184 doc Document "sysctl variable=/dev/foo" synta o [2002/01/24] docs/34234 doc restore(8) man page doesn't explain rrest o [2002/01/24] docs/34239 doc tunefs(8) man page doesn't describe argum o [2002/01/24] docs/34248 doc dump(8) man page block/record/other clari o [2002/02/01] docs/34529 doc [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and o [2002/02/03] docs/34577 doc Some man pages still advise using "confli o [2002/02/03] docs/34583 doc DECLARE_MODULE(9) man page is broken. o [2002/02/04] docs/34626 doc Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pag o [2002/02/05] docs/34654 doc Update UIDs for porters handbook o [2002/02/08] docs/34743 doc nfsd(8) lacking signal explanation o [2002/02/09] docs/34782 doc pw(8) contains conflicting explanations f o [2002/02/10] docs/34794 doc [patch] Documentation Primer uses depreca o [2002/02/13] docs/34909 doc Porters Handbook or portlint problem o [2002/02/13] docs/34921 doc Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Ker o [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/18] docs/35098 doc NFS chapter simultaneously sucks and blow o [2002/02/18] docs/35105 doc [PATCH] handbook User-ppp chapter o [2002/02/19] docs/35108 doc Developers' Handbook::VM chapter o [2002/02/20] docs/35140 doc How to enable DPMS support in XFree86-4 i o [2002/02/22] docs/35206 doc Give information how to mount a photo-cd o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/02/24] docs/35280 doc [PATCH] null-modem cable pinout in 'Seria o [2002/02/26] docs/35343 doc Old broken Unix docco Makefiles o [2002/02/26] docs/35345 doc Restore old yacc documentation o [2002/02/27] docs/35378 doc Handbook has inaccurate description of f o [2002/02/28] docs/35436 doc PAO isn't very latest-and-greatest these o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/04] docs/35530 doc New cvsup and www mirror in Romania 69 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 11:20:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F7437B41A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g24JK5o63333; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203041920.g24JK5o63333@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tomas Svensson Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Reply-To: Tomas Svensson Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35523; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tomas Svensson To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35523: manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 11:17:59 +0100 Monday, March 04, 2002, 5:49:23 AM, you wrote: TR> Personal opinion here, and noone has to listen ;) but I like the use of TR> ``less'' over ``fewer'' but that TR> makes no need for another patch ;) "less" is a mass noun while "fewer" is a count noun. -Tomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 14:55:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-208-191-149-232.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net [208.191.149.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29F237B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 14:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g24Mrm507137 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:53:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:52:26 -0600 From: Chris Costello To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Cleaning up section 8 (Re: docs/35011) Message-ID: <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com> Reply-To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200202162200.g1GM03452105@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200202162200.g1GM03452105@freefall.freebsd.org>; from chris@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 02:00:03PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, February 16, 2002, Chris Costello wrote: > Actually, there is a command called `jail'. However, > diskless(8) should probably become diskless(7). Moreover, I propose that we move all non-commands out of section 8: adding_user.8 diskless.8 sticky.8 crash.8 picobsd.8 yp.8 I vote that they be moved into section 7 (Miscellaneous Information Manual). Anybody agree with me? -- +-------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Chris Costello | It is ten o'clock; | | chris@FreeBSD.org | do you know where your processes are? | +-------------------+---------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 16:44:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.trit.org (bazooka.trit.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7A437B400; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D76BC3E2F; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bazooka (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bazooka.trit.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64693C12E; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:44:34 +0000 (UTC) To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cleaning up section 8 (Re: docs/35011) In-Reply-To: <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@FreeBSD.ORG on "Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:52:26 -0600" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 00:44:29 +0000 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20020305004434.D76BC3E2F@bazooka.trit.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello wrote: > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, Chris Costello wrote: > > Actually, there is a command called `jail'. However, > > diskless(8) should probably become diskless(7). > > Moreover, I propose that we move all non-commands out of > section 8: > > adding_user.8 diskless.8 sticky.8 > crash.8 picobsd.8 yp.8 > > I vote that they be moved into section 7 (Miscellaneous > Information Manual). Anybody agree with me? I agree in general, but please talk to ru before changing yp(8) to yp(7); he just recently changed it from yp(4), and perhaps he had a reason to choose section 8 over 7 ({Open,Net}BSD compatibility?). Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 18:20:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD33937B41F for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a197.otenet.gr [212.205.215.197]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g252KB4L004800; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:20:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g252KAA0003130; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:20:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g252K8nA003129; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:20:08 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 04:20:07 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Ceri , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020305022007.GA2975@hades.hell.gr> References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-04 11:05, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Ceri wrote: > > >>+ NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server > >>+ and at least one client. > > > >I don't like this - "at least" occurs at least once too often, imho. > > How does "a minimial of one client" sound to you? "one or more clients" ? Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 18:42:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C961D37B405 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA49874 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:42:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.254.205] (cerberus [192.168.254.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g252jRG51739 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com> References: <200202162200.g1GM03452105@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:35:49 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rich Morin Subject: Re: Cleaning up section 8 (Re: docs/35011) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 4:52 PM -0600 3/4/02, Chris Costello wrote: >On Saturday, February 16, 2002, Chris Costello wrote: >> Actually, there is a command called `jail'. However, >> diskless(8) should probably become diskless(7). > > Moreover, I propose that we move all non-commands out of >section 8: > >adding_user.8 diskless.8 sticky.8 >crash.8 picobsd.8 yp.8 > > I vote that they be moved into section 7 (Miscellaneous >Information Manual). Anybody agree with me? Violently! The name space is already confused enough by the (rather artificial, IMHO) splits between sections [23] and [168]. Putting non-commands into section 8 messes things up even more! -r -- email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 23: 7:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A33137B400; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC61BD70; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06268; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:07:47 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g257BGF12288; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cleaning up section 8 (Re: docs/35011) References: <200202162200.g1GM03452105@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 04 Mar 2002 23:11:16 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20020304165226.A7081@holly.calldei.com> Message-ID: Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Costello writes: > On Saturday, February 16, 2002, Chris Costello wrote: > > Actually, there is a command called `jail'. However, > > diskless(8) should probably become diskless(7). > > Moreover, I propose that we move all non-commands out of > section 8: > > adding_user.8 diskless.8 sticky.8 > crash.8 picobsd.8 yp.8 > > I vote that they be moved into section 7 (Miscellaneous > Information Manual). Anybody agree with me? Looking at intro(8) and taking the first description sentence out of context leads me to believe that someone thought some non-commands belonged there. It specifically mentions "crash". It could use a rewrite no matter what decision is made regarding section 8. I have no opinion on that. I was suprised that these things weren't described (at least briefly) in the man(1) man page and I didn't find them in the handbook (though my note says they are there). Probably, man(1) should mention intro(*). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Mar 4 23:13:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8600337B400 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 23:13:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g24IhFq29722; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:43:15 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 18:43:15 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Ceri Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FAQ and IndexTerm Message-ID: <20020304184314.E29209@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020301161045.GA43649@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020301161045.GA43649@submonkey.net>; from setantae@submonkey.net on Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 04:10:45PM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 04:10:45PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > According to http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/indexterm.html, the index= term > element is not valid within tags, which as I understand (and= I > could be very wrong) leaves me with the only way of doing this to be addi= ng > IndexTerm ranges as described on the same page. Put the indexterms inside the or elements. foo frobbing How do I frob the foo device? Frob the foo device by. . . ... which is valid DocBook (but I haven't tested it to see what the output looks like. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyDwEEACgkQk6gHZCw343UgKQCfdXeIRQ9khTAgQnrcJLTSslUN vloAn2vSlKr6ABjaOo3cLjKDpdHXVEt/ =dnGD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Lb0e7rgc7IsuDeGj-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 0:18:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7C937B400; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:18:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iA99-0007M9-00; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:18:07 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iA8m-0000rs-00; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:17:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:17:44 +0000 From: Ceri To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The FAQ and IndexTerm Message-ID: <20020305081744.GA3202@submonkey.net> References: <20020301161045.GA43649@submonkey.net> <20020304184314.E29209@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020304184314.E29209@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:43:15PM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 04:10:45PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > According to http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/indexterm.html, the indexterm > > element is not valid within tags, which as I understand (and I > > could be very wrong) leaves me with the only way of doing this to be adding > > IndexTerm ranges as described on the same page. > > Put the indexterms inside the or elements. OK, thanks Nik. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 1:21:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.alexdupre.com (212-41-211-209.adsl.galactica.it [212.41.211.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C697337B41A for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 01:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from alexdupre.com ([192.168.0.101]) by mail.alexdupre.com (MERAK 3.10.011) with ESMTP id F05B6CDE for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:22:33 +0100 Message-ID: <3C848DFA.7080708@alexdupre.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:20:58 +0100 From: Alex Dupre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.8+) Gecko/20020303 X-Accept-Language: it, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Re: Current unassigned doc problem reports References: <200203041901.g24J10K55432@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD bugmaster wrote: > o [2002/02/14] docs/34947 doc Updated/Translated Article on Filtering Brigdes (English) > o [2002/02/28] docs/35430 doc [Maintainer Update] Filtering-Bridges Articles I have not seen any comment about these submissions (the second one supersedes the first), but they were not committed. Especially the actual English version is very outdated (because of ipfw and bridge codes changes) and says incorrect (no more true) things, so I think it should be updated asap. Alex Dupre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 2:19:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F64537B400 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 02:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iC2Q-0001zB-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:19:18 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iC27-00019g-00; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:18:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:18:59 +0000 From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020305101859.GA4224@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:38AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > How does "a minimial of one client" sound to you? I'm with Giorgos - "one or more" is better. After all, I'm not going to turn up on anyone's doorstep if they dare to set up a server and no clients, so we shouldn't make it sound as someone is going to ;) > >>nfsiod > > > >I've read the manual page, and I'm not really any the wiser here. > >nfsiod services async requests according to the manpage - what if i don't > >have > >any filesystems mounted async ? > >Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ? > > Well would you want them? and I don't use Solaris, not for NFS anyways, > so I would have no clue what your talking about it you even mentioned > biod. If you want to reword that to help the Solaris boys please offer > an opinion as I'm at a loss. It looks like it is (from the biod manpage on an arcane version of SunOS) : biod starts nservers asynchronous block I/O daemons. This command is used on a NFS client to buffer cache handle read-ahead and write-behind. Whether we want to start saying "foo is the equivalent of bar on QuuxOS" is a question that will probably be answered in the negative - it was rather frustrating, however, to be referred to the manpage and find nothing more there, but that's not really your problem, I suppose; the manpage needs fixing too. > > >>+ information. The flag allows the > >>directories > >>+ below the specified filesystem to also be exported. > >> > > > >Um, no it doesn't. Not really. > >This reads as though failing to specify -alldirs will allow me to mount > >/home, but will not result in /home/setantae being exported. > >The -alldirs flag actually allows the directories below the specified > >filesystem to be used as the root of a mount point, i.e. using the line > >below will allow 10.0.0.[2-4] to mount /home/setantae from the server. > >Now try turning that into English :) > > I am trying to think of a better example, this one made me think for a > few moments ;) But the ``vision'' is approching ;) OK, but you know what I'm saying, right ? > >I'd rather see -maproot=root here (and everywhere else). > >Although that may cause problems interoperating with Plan9, where the > >superuser > >appears to be called "glenda", it doesn't make it look as though something > >is being "turned off". > > I can agree with this, although about the Plan9 interoperation problem, > that SHOULD be documented on their side. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 5:34:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts17.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549D737B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:31:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.com ([64.229.184.12]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020305133029.MYMJ23788.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@yahoo.com> for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: <002c01c1c260$bf91b1d0$0cb8e540@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: "Dr Guihua Li" From: "Dr Guihua Li" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Invitation letter from the Organisation Committee of the First World Congress of Future Science and Culture Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:08:52 -0500 Organization: Organisation Committee of First World Congress of Future Science and Culture MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1C236.D6894F30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1C236.D6894F30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0029_01C1C236.D6894F30" ------=_NextPart_001_0029_01C1C236.D6894F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Sir/Madam, = =20 =20 Many of us who came to work in the sciences or similar areas did so = because we wanted to explore the unknown and gain more knowledge and = ultimately make this world a better place. It is undoubtedly true that = modern science has brought immense benefits to humanity but also = encountered many unsolved questions and problems including environmental = pollution.=20 =20 Perhaps it is now time for a different approach: Falun Dafa takes a = holistic view of life and the universe. It builds on the insights of = modern science and combines them with the insights from ancient Chinese = science and culture. We, scientists who understand Falun Dafa, invite = you to participate in the First World Congress of Future Science and = Culture that will be held at Cambridge on March 9th and 10th of 2002. = This congress will see state of the art research in this field and serve = as a forum for discussing how these new ideas could exert a profound = influence on the future science and culture of humankind. =20 Renowned specialists and professors in diverse academic disciplines from = many different parts of the world will be participating. A schedule for = March 9th is attached. On March 10 we will be holding an informal = discussion session at which participants at the conference can raise = issues with the speakers.=20 =20 We do hope that you will be able to find the time to attend. Please let = us know if you have any questions. =20 Yours sincerely, =20 =20 =20 Dr Guihua Li Organisation Committee of First World Congress of Future Science and = Culture fsc_congress@hotmail.com http://www.fsc-congress.org ------=_NextPart_001_0029_01C1C236.D6894F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Sir/Madam,               &nbs= p;        =20            &nbs= p;        =20            &nbs= p; =20

 

Many=20 of us who came to work in the sciences or similar areas did so because = we wanted=20 to explore the unknown and gain more knowledge and ultimately make this = world a=20 better place.  It is = undoubtedly=20 true that modern science has brought immense benefits to humanity but = also=20 encountered many unsolved questions and problems including environmental = pollution.

 

Perhaps it is now time for a different = approach:  Falun Dafa takes a holistic = view of life=20 and the universe. It builds on the insights of modern science and = combines them=20 with the insights from ancient Chinese science and culture. We, = scientists who=20 understand Falun Dafa, invite you to participate in the First World = Congress of=20 Future Science and Culture that will be held at Cambridge on March=20 9th and 10th of 2002. This congress will see state = of the=20 art research in this field and serve as a forum for discussing how these = new=20 ideas could exert a profound influence on the future science and culture = of=20 humankind.

 

Renowned specialists and professors in diverse = academic=20 disciplines from many different parts of the world will be = participating.  A schedule for March 9th is = attached. On=20 March 10 we will be holding an informal discussion session at which = participants=20 at the conference can raise issues with the speakers.=20

 

We do hope that = you will be=20 able to find the time to attend.=20 Please let us know if you have any = questions.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

 


 

Dr Guihua Li

Organisation Committee of First World Congress = of Future=20 Science and Culture

fsc_congress@hotmail.com

http://www.fsc-congress.org

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mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 7:26: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D2337B41D for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g25FQkq10372; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:26:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C84E600.3030209@pittgoth.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:36:32 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> <20020305101859.GA4224@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:38AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>How does "a minimial of one client" sound to you? >> > > I'm with Giorgos - "one or more" is better. > After all, I'm not going to turn up on anyone's doorstep if they > dare to set up a server and no clients, so we shouldn't make it > sound as someone is going to ;) I'm not going to complain, the more I thought about it, the more logical it became in my mind, I will throw togeather another patch ;) > > >>>>nfsiod >>>> >>>I've read the manual page, and I'm not really any the wiser here. >>>nfsiod services async requests according to the manpage - what if i don't >>>have >>>any filesystems mounted async ? >>>Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ? >>> >>Well would you want them? and I don't use Solaris, not for NFS anyways, >>so I would have no clue what your talking about it you even mentioned >>biod. If you want to reword that to help the Solaris boys please offer >>an opinion as I'm at a loss. >> > > It looks like it is (from the biod manpage on an arcane version of SunOS) : > > biod starts nservers asynchronous block I/O daemons. This > command is used on a NFS client to buffer cache handle > read-ahead and write-behind. > > Whether we want to start saying "foo is the equivalent of bar on QuuxOS" is > a question that will probably be answered in the negative - it was rather > frustrating, however, to be referred to the manpage and find nothing more > there, but that's not really your problem, I suppose; the manpage needs > fixing too. Maybe I should just remove the reference to the man page? Or just leave it in hopes that someone will eventually work on the manual page? > >>>>+ information. The flag allows the >>>>directories >>>>+ below the specified filesystem to also be exported. >>>> >>>Um, no it doesn't. Not really. >>>This reads as though failing to specify -alldirs will allow me to mount >>>/home, but will not result in /home/setantae being exported. >>>The -alldirs flag actually allows the directories below the specified >>>filesystem to be used as the root of a mount point, i.e. using the line >>>below will allow 10.0.0.[2-4] to mount /home/setantae from the server. >>>Now try turning that into English :) >>> >>I am trying to think of a better example, this one made me think for a >>few moments ;) But the ``vision'' is approching ;) > > OK, but you know what I'm saying, right ? This is how I read what you say: "I guess that using the -alldirs option will PERMIT the mounting of subdirectories, without requiring a seperate entry for them? In this way, you could export the /home dir, and not be required to specify which user home directories be exported..." > > >>>I'd rather see -maproot=root here (and everywhere else). >>>Although that may cause problems interoperating with Plan9, where the >>>superuser >>>appears to be called "glenda", it doesn't make it look as though something >>>is being "turned off". >>> >>I can agree with this, although about the Plan9 interoperation problem, >>that SHOULD be documented on their side. Most *nix versions use the >>root user ;) >> > > Wizard. > > Thanks, > > Ceri > > I hope this sounds better... Enjoy -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 7:55:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15B537B445; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25Fl6I87237; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:47:06 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203051547.g25Fl6I87237@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35108: Developers' Handbook::VM chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Developers' Handbook::VM chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:46:45 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed. Thanks for the submission. It may take up to 24 hours for the change to hit the web site. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35108 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 7:56:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D87B37B43E; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25Fkf587037; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:46:41 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203051546.g25Fkf587037@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:45:44 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed in r1.40. I noticed one more unecessary word, but otherwise the patch was applied as submitted. Thanks for the submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34921 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 8:10:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bay.ein.cz (bay.ein.cz [62.24.69.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E50737B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:10:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from oak.ein.cz (oak.ein.cz [62.24.69.194]) by bay.ein.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1DB13E82 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:26:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by oak.ein.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D78C21C7DF; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:25:52 +0100 (CET) From: EIN Media Subject: EIN Czech Today - Hourly Updated News X-Author: pe@einmedia.com Message-Id: <20020305151359.846DE1C6B1@oak.ein.cz> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:13:59 +0100 (CET) To: doc@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir/Madam, My name is Petr Stanek and I am managing the Czech Today news service (www.europeaninternet.com/czech). 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Best regards, Petr Stanek Subscription Department European Internet Network http://www.europeaninternet.com To be removed please reply to: remove@europeaninternet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 8:20:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0230D37B417 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25GK0398025; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:20:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0110037B402 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iHdU-0002Vq-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:17:56 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iHdI-0001D3-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:17:44 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:17:44 +0000 From: Ceri Reply-To: Ceri To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35563: [Patch] Stop asking people to give us their postal address for no reason Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35563 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] Stop asking people to give us their postal address for no reason >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 05 08:20:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ceri >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Thu Feb 28 17:50:57 GMT 2002 setantae@rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RHADAMANTH i386 >Description: The newsletter is dead (jkh confirmed this to me). http://www.freebsd.org/publish.html still encourages people to visit http://www.freebsd.org/register.html and enter their details to receive the next edition of the newsletter by post. This is never going to happen, and nik@FreeBSD.org tells me that he knows of no reason why this information should continue to be collected. This patch kills mention of registering for the newsletter, and replaces the registration page with a simple form that merely subscribes and/or unsubscribes users to the announce and security-notification lists. Ceri >How-To-Repeat: Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org/publish.html and try and sign up to receive the newsletter. >Fix: diff -ru www.orig/en/cgi/reg.cgi www/en/cgi/reg.cgi --- www.orig/en/cgi/reg.cgi Mon Apr 3 09:45:51 2000 +++ www/en/cgi/reg.cgi Tue Mar 5 15:09:32 2002 @@ -4,6 +4,9 @@ # # $FreeBSD: www/en/cgi/reg.cgi,v 1.7 2000/04/03 08:45:51 phantom Exp $ +sub do_header; +sub close_body; + $mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail'; print "Content-type: text/html\n\n"; @@ -45,63 +48,66 @@ $value . -# Open the mail file and write to it -open (MAIL, "|$mailprog $recipient") || die "$mailprog not available.\n"; -print MAIL "From: $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; -print MAIL "Subject: FreeBSD Registration from $FORM{'emaila'}\n\n"; - -print MAIL "\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'First'}\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'Last'}\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'emaila'}\n"; -print MAIL "
$FORM{'Address'}
\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'City'}\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'State'}\n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'Zip'}\n"; -print MAIL ""; -print MAIL " \n"; -print MAIL "$FORM{'version'}\n"; -print MAIL "\n"; -print MAIL "\n"; -close (MAIL); +my ($sub_announce, $sub_security, $unsub_announce, $unsub_security) = (); +$sub_announce = 1 if $FORM{"announce"} eq "yes"; +$unsub_announce = 1 if $FORM{"announce"} eq "no"; +$sub_security = 1 if $FORM{"security-notifications"} eq "yes"; +$unsub_security = 1 if $FORM{"security-notifications"} eq "no"; # Open the mail file and write to it # if user is subscribing to maillist -if ($FORM{"announce"} eq "yes") { +# which they should be, otherwise why did they hit submit ? +if ( $sub_announce || $sub_security || $unsub_announce || $unsub_security ) { open (MAIL, "|$mailprog $sub_recipient") || die "$mailprog not available.\n"; print MAIL "From: $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; -print MAIL "Subject: subscribe freebsd-announce $FORM{'emaila'}\n\n"; +print MAIL "Subject: \n\n"; -print MAIL "subscribe freebsd-announce $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; +$sub_announce and print MAIL "subscribe freebsd-announce $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; +$unsub_announce and print MAIL "unsubscribe freebsd-announce $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; +$sub_security and print MAIL "subscribe freebsd-security-notifications $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; +$unsub_security and print MAIL "unsubscribe freebsd-security-notifications $FORM{'emaila'}\n"; close (MAIL); +} else { + &do_header("No action"); + print "

No action chosen, hence no action taken.

"; + &close_body; + exit; } -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "Mail Sent\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print " \n"; -print "
\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "\n"; -print "

Thank you, $FORM{'First'} $FORM{'Last'}, for your registration.\n"; -print "
It has been submitted.\n"; -if ($FORM{"announce"} eq "yes") { -print "
As you requested, you have also been subscribed to announce\@FreeBSD.org.\n"; + +&do_header("Subscription processed"); +print "

Thank you, $FORM{'emaila'}, for your submission.\n"; +print "
The request will need to be authenticated; check your mailbox "; +print "for instructions on how to do this.\n"; +&close_body; + +sub do_header { + my $title = @_; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "$title\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print " \n"; + print "

\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; } -print "
\n"; -print "\n"; +sub close_body { + print "
\n"; + print "\n"; + print "\n"; +} 1; + diff -ru www.orig/en/publish.sgml www/en/publish.sgml --- www.orig/en/publish.sgml Sat Jan 19 13:03:33 2002 +++ www/en/publish.sgml Tue Mar 5 15:09:24 2002 @@ -498,11 +498,8 @@ WIDTH="150" HEIGHT="194"> This is issue - #1 of the FreeBSD Newsletter, published and distributed free + #1 of the FreeBSD Newsletter, which was published and distributed free of charge by Walnut Creek CDROM. - You can register - to receive it. Submit articles/make comments by sending email to - newsletter@FreeBSD.ORG. @@ -511,11 +508,8 @@ WIDTH="150" HEIGHT="194"> This is issue - #2 of the FreeBSD Newsletter, published and distributed free + #2 of the FreeBSD Newsletter, which was published and distributed free of charge by Walnut Creek CDROM. - You can register - to receive it. Submit articles/make comments by sending email to - newsletter@FreeBSD.ORG. diff -ru www.orig/en/register.sgml www/en/register.sgml --- www.orig/en/register.sgml Fri Jul 13 13:52:11 2001 +++ www/en/register.sgml Tue Mar 5 15:09:18 2002 @@ -7,92 +7,37 @@ &header; -
Register to receive the FreeBSD Newsletter and - subscribe to the announce@FreeBSD.org mailing list.
+
Subscribe to the announce@FreeBSD.org and security-announce@FreeBSD.org mailing lists.
-
+
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
First Name:
Last Name:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - + - - - + +
Email Address:
Address:
City:
Country/U.S. State: Country/Zip Code:
Do you wish to receive FreeBSD related - commercial email? - -
Options for the + announce@FreeBSD.org mailing list:
Subscribe listed email address to the - announce@FreeBSD.org mailing list? - - Subscribe
+ Unsubscribe
Sign up for FreeBSD Newsletter? + Options for the + security-notifications@FreeBSD.org mailing list: Subscribe
+ Unsubscribe

@@ -100,13 +45,6 @@

-

Preview a copy of the newsletter in Adobe - PDF format. A help - file is available to assist you in selecting and using a PDF - viewer.

- &footer; >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 8:34:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CD937B402 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:34:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iHtg-0002w2-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:34:40 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iHtU-0001Oa-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:34:28 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:34:28 +0000 From: Ceri To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposed rework of http://www.freebsd.org/publish.html Message-ID: <20020305163428.GA5225@submonkey.net> References: <20020303203234.GA26701@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020303203234.GA26701@submonkey.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 08:32:34PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > Also, regarding the newsletter, it currently links to register.cgi which > harvests your postal address in return for a promised copy of the newsletter, > which jkh assured me is dead, dead, dead. In light of this, I asked Nik > and jkh for an opinion on whether it should stay there harvesting addresses, > and Nik's reply was "nix it", or something along those lines. > > So with Nik's approval I'm going to knock up a patch so that register.cgi > will offer to (un)subscribe people to the -announce and -security-announce > lists (it just formats and sends a mail to majordomo, which still needs to > be authenticated) and nothing else, so if you could also remove the links > from the newsletters that point at it, that would be neat. You'll have seen by now that I've submitted a patch to sort this out in PR docs/35563. thanks, Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 8:57:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C724437B496; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020305165701.SONH2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:57:01 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25Gv0w92528; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:57:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203051657.g25Gv0w92528@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Randy Pratt Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Lucas , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Official -doc freeze proposal In-reply-to: <200203031507.g23F7VR22336@mail.ezwv.com> References: <20020221115732.GA575@rhadamanth> <20020302071734.A82120@blackhelicopters.org> <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org> <200203031507.g23F7VR22336@mail.ezwv.com> Comments: In-reply-to Randy Pratt message dated "Sun, 03 Mar 2002 10:17:34 -0500." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:57:00 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Randy Pratt wrote: > One thing I would like to bring up regarding the doc freeze is the Handbook > section on installation. > > I try to do the changes to the installation section as late as possible > during the release. There have been occasions during the last few releases > that last minute source tree changes were made that do affect the content of > the installation section. Err. Good point. > I'm trying to catch up on email after being out of town for a few weeks so I > might have missed a comment that a change during a doc freeze would require > the approval of the release engineer. Perhaps this is implied but it might > be better if it were documented. I was thinking that we didn't need a formal approval process involving a release engineer, just agreement on the freeze and what it means, on the basis that doc/ is both a smaller tree and a smaller community than src/. If there's some concensus that having re approval would be good, murry and I wear both doc and re hats, although I can assure you that we both have plenty to do during the final stages of a release already! And like I wrote above, I'm not sure it's necessary. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 10:26:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from omta02.mta.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE60837B400 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (dsnat [216.200.145.62]) by omta02.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32D91C4008 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id C621E36FA; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:26:09 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:26:09 -0800 (PST) From: Damo Damo To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Damo Reply-To: Damo@psyon.org X-Originating-Ip: [195.92.168.170] Message-Id: <20020305182609.C621E36FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I like to join the mailling list :) I want to learn more about FreeBSD _____________________________________________________________ You deserve a better email address! Get personalized email @yourname or @yourcompany from Everyone.net --> http://www.everyone.net?tag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 10:37:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8347137B404 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iJo7-0005YH-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 18:37:03 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iJno-0001sg-00; Tue, 05 Mar 2002 18:36:44 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:36:44 +0000 From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020305183644.GB7015@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> <20020305101859.GA4224@submonkey.net> <3C84E600.3030209@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C84E600.3030209@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 10:36:32AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Ceri wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:38AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > >>How does "a minimial of one client" sound to you? > >> > >I'm with Giorgos - "one or more" is better. > >After all, I'm not going to turn up on anyone's doorstep if they > >dare to set up a server and no clients, so we shouldn't make it > >sound as someone is going to ;) > > I'm not going to complain, the more I thought about it, the more logical > it became in my mind, I will throw togeather another patch ;) OK cool. > >>>>nfsiod > >>>> > >>>Is this the same thing as biod on Solaris ? > >>> > > > >It looks like it is (from the biod manpage on an arcane version of SunOS) : > > > > biod starts nservers asynchronous block I/O daemons. This > > command is used on a NFS client to buffer cache handle > > read-ahead and write-behind. > > > >Whether we want to start saying "foo is the equivalent of bar on QuuxOS" is > >a question that will probably be answered in the negative - it was rather > >frustrating, however, to be referred to the manpage and find nothing more > >there, but that's not really your problem, I suppose; the manpage needs > >fixing too. > > Maybe I should just remove the reference to the man page? Or just leave > it in hopes that someone will eventually work on the manual page? Probably best to keep the link to the manpage. Perhaps there's just nothing interesting to say about nfsiod anyway! > This is how I read what you say: > "I guess that using the -alldirs option will PERMIT the mounting of > subdirectories, without requiring a seperate entry for them? In this > way, you could export the /home dir, and not be required to specify > which user home directories be exported..." If the client is only interesting in /home/ncvs, say, then using the -alldirs option for /home on the server will let the client mount only /home/ncvs, and not force it to mount all of /home; I think you've got it. (I must sound really patronising, sorry). Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 10:46:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E108537B404 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g25Im3q10605; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:48:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C85152E.4020604@pittgoth.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 13:57:50 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200203040710.g247A1Y75400@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020304092002.GA2321@submonkey.net> <3C839B52.3020206@pittgoth.com> <20020305101859.GA4224@submonkey.net> <3C84E600.3030209@pittgoth.com> <20020305183644.GB7015@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > >>This is how I read what you say: >>"I guess that using the -alldirs option will PERMIT the mounting of >>subdirectories, without requiring a seperate entry for them? In this >>way, you could export the /home dir, and not be required to specify >>which user home directories be exported..." >> > > If the client is only interesting in /home/ncvs, say, then using the -alldirs > option for /home on the server will let the client mount only /home/ncvs, and > not force it to mount all of /home; I think you've got it. > (I must sound really patronising, sorry). > > Ceri > > Naaa, yer fine ;) Your comments have been well taken and appricated, its always nice to hear "positive critisism" (sp) as it causes for a rethink of the current situation and hopefully a more productive answer. -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 12:34:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BDC37B405; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25KYcU96463; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:34:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:34:38 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Randy Pratt , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Official -doc freeze proposal Message-ID: <20020305153438.A96446@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020221115732.GA575@rhadamanth> <20020302071734.A82120@blackhelicopters.org> <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org> <200203031507.g23F7VR22336@mail.ezwv.com> <200203051657.g25Gv0w92528@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203051657.g25Gv0w92528@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:57:00AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:57:00AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I was thinking that we didn't need a formal approval process involving a > release engineer, just agreement on the freeze and what it means, on the > basis that doc/ is both a smaller tree and a smaller community than src/. I think it would be good to have re@ send a message to -doc saying "Okay, it's freeze time, be careful." If someone truly goes bonkers during freeze, we'll have to deal with it then. Until then, politeness and common sense should suffice. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 13: 5:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4270037B419; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020305210556.MBN2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:05:56 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25L5ub95362; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203052105.g25L5ub95362@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Randy Pratt , Udo Erdelhoff , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Official -doc freeze proposal In-reply-to: <20020305153438.A96446@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020221115732.GA575@rhadamanth> <20020302071734.A82120@blackhelicopters.org> <200203021650.g22Goq946750@bmah.dyndns.org> <200203031507.g23F7VR22336@mail.ezwv.com> <200203051657.g25Gv0w92528@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020305153438.A96446@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:34:38 -0500." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 13:05:55 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:57:00AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > > I was thinking that we didn't need a formal approval process involving a > > release engineer, just agreement on the freeze and what it means, on the > > basis that doc/ is both a smaller tree and a smaller community than src/. > > I think it would be good to have re@ send a message to -doc saying > "Okay, it's freeze time, be careful." I can do that. Bruce. 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From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:39:38 -0500 (EST) diff -ru handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml --- handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Wed Feb 27 00:08:02 2002 +++ handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Tue Mar 5 18:33:28 2002 @@ -648,6 +648,13 @@ + Tom + Rhodes + Reorganized and enhanced by + + + + Bill Swingle Written by @@ -658,44 +665,41 @@ NFS Among the many different file systems that FreeBSD supports is - the Network File System or NFS. NFS allows you - to share directories and files on one machine with others - via the network they are attached to. Using NFS, users and - programs can access files on remote systems as if they were local + the Network File System, also known as NFS. + NFS allows a system to share directories and files + with others over a network. By using NFS, users and + programs can access files on remote systems almost as if they were local files. - NFS has several benefits: + Some of the most notable benefits that NFS can provide are: - Local workstations do not need as much disk space because + Local workstations use less disk space because commonly used data can be stored on a single machine and still - remain accessible to everyone on the network. + remain accessible to others over the network. - There is no need for users to have unique home directories - on every machine on your network. Once they have an established - directory that is available via NFS it can be accessed from - anywhere. + There is no need for users to have separate home directories + on every network machine. Home directories could be setup on the + NFS server and made available throughout the network. - Storage devices such as floppies and CDROM drives can be - used by other machines on the network eliminating the need for - extra hardware. + Storage devices such as floppy disks, CDROM drives, and ZIP drives + can be used by other machines on the network. This may reduce the number + of removable media drives throughout the network. - How It Works + How <acronym>NFS</acronym> Works - NFS is composed of two sides – a client side and a - server side. Think of it as a want/have relationship. The client - wants the data that the server side - has. The server shares its data with the - client. In order for this system to function properly a few - processes have to be configured and running. + NFS consists of at least two main parts: a server + and one or more clients. The client remotely accesses the data that is stored + on the server machine. In order for this to function properly a few + processes have to be configured and running: The server has to be running the following daemons: @@ -723,141 +727,129 @@ nfsd - The NFS Daemon which services requests from NFS - clients. + The NFS daemon which services requests from + the NFS clients. mountd - The NFS Mount Daemon which actually carries out - requests that &man.nfsd.8; passes on to it. + The NFS mount daemon which carries out + the requests that &man.nfsd.8; passes on to it. portmap - The portmapper daemon which - allows NFS clients to find out which port the NFS server - is using. + The portmapper daemon + allows NFS clients to discover which port the NFS server + is using. - The client side only needs to run a single daemon: - - NFS - client - - - nfsiod - - - - - - - nfsiod - The NFS async I/O Daemon which services requests - from its NFS server. - - - - + The client can also run a daemon, known as + nfsiod. The nfsiod + daemon services the requests from the NFS server. This + is optional, and improves performance, but is not required for normal + and correct operation. See the &man.nfsiod.8; manual page for more information. + - Configuring NFS + Configuring <acronym>NFS</acronym> NFS configuration - Luckily for us, on a FreeBSD system this setup is a snap. The - processes that need to be running can all be run at boot time with + NFS configuration is a relatively straightforward + process. The processes that need to be running can all start at boot time with a few modifications to your /etc/rc.conf - file. + file. - On the NFS server make sure you have: + On the NFS server, make sure that the following options + are configured in the /etc/rc.conf file: portmap_enable="YES" nfs_server_enable="YES" -nfs_server_flags="-u -t -n 4" mountd_flags="-r" - mountd is automatically run whenever the - NFS server is enabled. The and - flags to nfsd tell it to - serve UDP and TCP clients. The flag tells - nfsd to start 4 copies of itself. - - On the client, make sure you have: - - nfs_client_enable="YES" -nfs_client_flags="-n 4" - - Like nfsd, the tells - nfsiod to start 4 copies of itself. - - The last configuration step requires that you create a file - called /etc/exports. The exports file - specifies which file systems on your server will be shared - (a.k.a., exported) and with what clients they will - be shared. Each line in the file specifies a file system to be - shared. There are a handful of options that can be used in this - file but only a few will be mentioned here. You can find out - about the rest in the &man.exports.5; manual page. + mountd runs automatically whenever the + NFS server is enabled. + + On the client, make sure this option is present in + /etc/rc.conf: + + nfs_client_enable="YES" + + + The /etc/exports + file specifies which filesystems NFS should export (sometimes + referred to as share). + Each line in /etc/exports specifies a filesystem to be exported and + which machines have access to that filesystem. Along with what machines have access + to that filesystem, access options may also be specified. There are many such options + that can be used in this file but only a few will be mentioned here. You can easily discover + other options by reading over the &man.exports.5; manual page. Here are a few example /etc/exports entries: NFS - exporting filesystems + Examples of exporting filesystems - The following line exports /cdrom to - three silly machines that have the same domain name as the server + + The following examples give an idea of how to export filesystems, + although the settings may be different depending on + your environment and network configuration. + For instance, to export the /cdrom directory to + three example machines that have the same domain name as the server (hence the lack of a domain name for each) or have entries in your /etc/hosts file. The - flag makes the shared file system read-only. With this flag, the - remote system will not be able to make any changes to the - shared file system. + flag makes the exported file system read-only. With this flag, the + remote system will not be able to write any changes to the + exported file system. - /cdrom -ro moe larry curly + /cdrom -ro host1 host2 host3 The following line exports /home to three hosts by IP address. This is a useful setup if you have a - private network but do not have DNS running. The - flag allows all the directories below - the specified file system to be exported as well. + private network without a DNS server configured. + Optionally the /etc/hosts file could be configured + for internal hostnames; please review &man.hosts.5; for more + information. The flag allows the subdirectories + to be mount points. In other words, it will not mount the subdirectories + but permit the client to mount only the directories that are required or + needed. /home -alldirs 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 10.0.0.4 - The following line exports /a to two - machines that have different domain names than the server. The - flag allows - the root user on the remote system to write to the shared - file system as root. Without the -maproot=0 flag even if - someone has root access on the remote system they will not - be able to modify files on the shared file system. + The following line exports /a so that two + clients from different domains may access the filesystem. The + flag allows the root + user on the remote system to write data on the exported filesystem as + root. If the -maproot=root flag is not specified, then even if + a user has root access on the remote system, they will not + be able to modify files on the exported filesystem. - /a -maproot=0 host.domain.com box.example.com + /a -maproot=root host.example.com box.example.org - In order for a client to access- an exported file system it must - have permission to do so. Make sure your client is listed in your + In order for a client to access an exported filesystem, the client must + have permission to do so. Make sure the client is listed in your /etc/exports file. In /etc/exports, each line represents the export information for one filesystem to one host. A - remote host can only be specified once for each local - filesystem, and you can only have one default entry per local - filesystem. For example, let's assume that - /usr is a single filesystem. The - following /etc/exports is invalid: + remote host can only be specified once per filesystem, and may only + have one default entry. For example, assume that /usr + is a single filesystem. The following /etc/exports + would be valid: /usr/src client /usr/ports client One filesystem, /usr, has two lines - specifying its exports to the same host, - client. The correct format is: + specifying exports to the same host, client. + The correct format for this situation is: /usr/src /usr/ports client @@ -872,42 +864,43 @@ # Export src and ports to client01 and client02, but only # client01 has root privileges on it -/usr/src /usr/ports -maproot=0 client01 +/usr/src /usr/ports -maproot=root client01 /usr/src /usr/ports client02 -# The "client" machines have root and can mount anywhere -# up /exports. Anyone inhe world can mount /exports/obj read-only -/exports -alldirs -maproot=0 client01 client02 +# The client machines have root and can mount anywhere +# on /exports. Anyone in the world can mount /exports/obj read-only +/exports -alldirs -maproot=root client01 client02 /exports/obj -ro You must restart mountd whenever you modify - /etc/exports to make changes take - effect. This can be accomplished by sending the hangup signal + /etc/exports so the changes can take effect. + This can be accomplished by sending the hangup signal to the mountd process: &prompt.root; kill -HUP `cat /var/run/mountd.pid` - Now that you have made all these changes you can just reboot - and let FreeBSD start everything for you at boot time, or you can - run the following commands as root: + Alternatively, a reboot will make FreeBSD set everything + up properly. A reboot is not necessary though. + Executing the following commands as root + should start everything up. - On the NFS server: + On the NFS server: &prompt.root; portmap &prompt.root; nfsd -u -t -n 4 &prompt.root; mountd -r - On the NFS client: + On the NFS client: &prompt.root; nfsiod -n 4 - Now you should be ready to actually mount a remote file - system. This can be done one of two ways. In these examples the + Now everything should be ready to actually mount a remote file + system. In these examples the server's name will be server and the client's - name will be client. If you just want to - temporarily mount a remote file system or just want to test out - your configuration you can run a command like this as root on the - client: + name will be client. If you only want to + temporarily mount a remote file system or would rather test the + configuration, just execute a command like this as root on the + client: NFS mounting filesystems @@ -916,56 +909,54 @@ This will mount the /home directory on the server at /mnt on the client. If - everything is setup correctly you should be able to go into - /mnt on the client and see all the files that are on the - server. - - If you want to automatically mount a remote file system - each time the computer boots, add the filesystem to - /etc/fstab. Here is an example: + everything is set up correctly you should be able to enter + /mnt on the client and see all the files + that are on the server. + + If you want to automatically mount a remote filesystem + each time the computer boots, add the filesystem to the + /etc/fstab file. Here is an example: server:/home /mnt nfs rw 0 0 - Read the &man.fstab.5; manual page for more options. + The &man.fstab.5; manual page lists all the available options. Practical Uses - There are many very cool uses for NFS. Some of the more common - ones are listed below. + NFS has many practical uses. Some of the more common + ones are listed below: + NFS uses - Have several machines on a network and share a CDROM or - floppy drive among them. This is cheaper and often more - convenient. + Set several machines to share a CDROM or + other media among them. This is cheaper and often + a more convenient method to install software on multiple machines. - With so many machines on a network, it gets old having your - personal files strewn all over the place. You can have a - central NFS server that houses all user home directories and - shares them with the rest of the machines on the LAN, so no - matter where you log in you will have the same home - directory. + On large networks, it might be more convenient to configure a + central NFS server in which to store all the user + home directories. These home directories can then be exported to + the network so that users would always have the same home directory, + regardless of which workstation they log in to. - When you get to reinstalling FreeBSD on one of your - machines, NFS is the way to go! Just pop your distribution - CDROM into your file server and away you go! + You can use an exported CDROM to install + software on multiple machines. - Have a common /usr/ports/distfiles - directory that all your machines share. That way, when you go - to install a port that you have already installed on a different - machine, you do not have to download the source all over - again! + Several machines could have a common + /usr/ports/distfiles directory. + That way, when you need to install a port on several machines, you can + quickly access the source without downloading it on each machine. @@ -992,14 +983,15 @@ amd automatic mounter daemon - &man.amd.8;, which is also known as the automatic mounter - daemon, is a useful utility used for automatically mounting a + &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) + is a useful daemon that automatically mounts a remote filesystem whenever a file or directory within that filesystem is accessed. Filesystems that are inactive for a period of time will also be automatically unmounted by amd. Using - amd provides a simplistic alternative - to static mounts. + amd provides a simple alternative + to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts should be listed in the + /etc/fstab. amd operates by attaching itself as an NFS server to the /host and To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 15:45:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE1037B404; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020305234532.EMWY1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:45:32 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g25NjW397864; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203052345.g25NjW397864@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, tmm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64 Makefile article.sgml install.sgml In-reply-to: <200203052322.g25NM8t90177@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200203052322.g25NM8t90177@freefall.freebsd.org> Comments: In-reply-to Thomas Moestl message dated "Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:22:08 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:45:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Thomas Moestl wrote: > tmm 2002/03/05 15:22:08 PST > > Added files: > release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/installation/sparc64 Makefile > article.sgml > install.sgml > Log: > Add installation instructions for the FreeBSD/sparc64 port. I have very > likely introduced language and markup bugs, but it's a start. > > Makefile, initial docbook conversion & cleanups by: murray Note for translators: This is a new installation document that is totally separate from the i386/alpha installation document. I don't advise starting a translation immediately because there's some markup bogons that still need to be fixed, which I don't want people to have to waste time tracking. This document isn't even connected to the build yet. Either murray or I will connect it up after it's been cleaned up a bit. Cheers, Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 15:49:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF9A37B402; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20312; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:49:37 -0800 Message-ID: <3C855990.9090708@owt.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 15:49:36 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: murray@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: setantae@submonkey.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter References: <200203051546.g25Fkf587037@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org murray@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Synopsis: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: murray > State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:45:44 PST 2002 > State-Changed-Why: > Committed in r1.40. I noticed one more unecessary word, but otherwise > the patch was applied as submitted. Thanks for the submission! > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34921 > When I try to update the docs, the make process doesn't understand in the line the devel/ddd port in order to use the The error message is /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml:247:15:E: element "PORT" undefined Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 17:31:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC8137B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g261VnZ14326 for freebsd-doc; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:31:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:31:49 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203060131.g261VnZ14326@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> doc/articles/cvs-freebsd ===> doc/articles/cvsup-advanced ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall ===> doc/articles/diskless-x ===> doc/articles/euro ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges ===> doc/articles/fonts ===> doc/articles/formatting-media ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions ===> doc/articles/hubs ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must ===> doc/articles/laptop ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/problem-reports ===> doc/articles/programming-tools ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/releng ===> doc/articles/releng-packages ===> doc/articles/serial-uart ===> doc/articles/solid-state ===> doc/articles/storage-devices ===> doc/articles/vinum ===> doc/articles/vm-design ===> doc/articles/zip-drive ===> doc/books ===> doc/books/corp-net-guide ===> doc/books/design-44bsd ===> doc/books/developers-handbook /usr/local/bin/jade -V html-manifest -ioutput.html -d /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput.html.images -i chap.index -D /usr/obj/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -t sgml /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/book.sgml /usr/local/bin/jade:/c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml:247:15:E: element "PORT" undefined *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 549.20 real 258.24 user 9.67 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 17:36: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F7337B416 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (c2.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.2]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g261blq11026 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:37:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C8572FC.9090601@pittgoth.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 20:38:04 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kent Stewart wrote: > > > murray@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > >> Synopsis: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter >> >> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed >> State-Changed-By: murray >> State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:45:44 PST 2002 >> State-Changed-Why: Committed in r1.40. I noticed one more unecessary >> word, but otherwise >> the patch was applied as submitted. Thanks for the submission! >> >> >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34921 >> > > > When I try to update the docs, the make process doesn't understand > in the line > > the devel/ddd port in order to use the > > The error message is > > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml:247:15:E: > element "PORT" undefined > > Kent > The use of has become obsolete. Recently a change was made where you must now specify the use of a port/package with filename. Hence, your new code should look similar to this: net/cvsup What is an unfortunate fact is, the current patches in gnats use instead of , and this will most likely require the submitter to resubmit the patch, or the commiter to change it accordingly. I hope this helps -- Tom Rhodes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 19:20:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392FF37B417 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g263K1l36283; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from dell.dannyland.org (adsl-64-168-138-218.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.168.138.218]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331CE37B429 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by dell.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 07ACD5DE9; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20020306031032.07ACD5DE9@dell.dannyland.org> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:10:32 -0800 (PST) From: dannyman@toldme.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: dannyman@toldme.com X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35575: Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/log/userlog Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35575 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/log/userlog >Confidential: yes >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Mar 05 19:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Danny Howard >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dell.dannyland.org 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #2: Mon Feb 11 23:17:34 PST 2002 root@dell.dannyland.org:/u/obj/u/src/sys/DELL i386 >Description: Apparently, there's this really nice log that pw keeps, in /var/log/userlog. There is absolutely no mention of this functionality in the pw man page. This would be very useful information for a SysAdmin who bothers to read the pw man page to know. :) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: At least mention /var/log/userlog in FILES. It may be useful to document the any relevant syslog information as well. If nobody wants to "own" fixing this, then I'll roll up my sleeves, do some research, and supply patches. -danny >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 20: 0: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A5937B6E1 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02019; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:58:20 -0800 Message-ID: <3C8593DB.6090803@owt.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:58:19 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter References: <3C8572FC.9090601@pittgoth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes wrote: > Kent Stewart wrote: > >> >> >> murray@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: >> >>> Synopsis: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter >>> >>> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed >>> State-Changed-By: murray >>> State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:45:44 PST 2002 >>> State-Changed-Why: Committed in r1.40. I noticed one more unecessary >>> word, but otherwise >>> the patch was applied as submitted. Thanks for the submission! >>> >>> >>> http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34921 >>> >> >> >> When I try to update the docs, the make process doesn't understand >> in the line >> >> the devel/ddd port in order to use the >> >> The error message is >> >> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug/chapter.sgml:247:15:E: >> element "PORT" undefined >> >> Kent >> > The use of has become obsolete. Recently a change was made where > you must now specify the use of a port/package with filename. Hence, > your new code should look similar to this: > > net/cvsup > > What is an unfortunate fact is, the current patches in gnats use > instead of , and this > will most likely require the submitter to resubmit the patch, or the > commiter to change it accordingly. > > I hope this helps > It helped. What I did was the following --- chapter.sgml.orig Tue Mar 5 19:48:18 2002 +++ chapter.sgml Tue Mar 5 19:48:24 2002 @@ -244,7 +244,7 @@ Examining a kernel crash dump with a graphical debugger like ddd is also possible (you will need to install - the devel/ddd port in order to use the + the devel/ddd port in order to use the ddd debugger). Add the option to the ddd command line you would use normally. For example; You have to unwrap the lines but the change links to the Port description for devel/ddd Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 23:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from radwaste.oaep.go.th (ppp18.modem56.actconnect.net [203.155.127.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821837B417 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pirat@localhost) by radwaste.oaep.go.th (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g267Vot02579 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:31:50 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from pirat@access.inet.co.th) X-Authentication-Warning: radwaste.oaep.go.th: pirat set sender to pirat@access.inet.co.th using -f Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:31:49 +0700 From: pirat To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD-4.4 STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi sirs, am not quite sure i understand it correctly or not. as appear in exmaple 3.6 & example 3.7 of the fdp-primer, an environment variable SGML_CATALOG_FILES setting is quite unusaul. the last two lines should not have and equal sign (=) i also cvsup doc-supfile two or more times during the last three days, but there is no one notice this strange setting. well am not an expert in unix , just wondering and asking. forget this message if any one else has already reported. with best regards, psr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 23:43:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wolfram.com (wri-dns0.wolfram.com [140.177.205.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3959837B404 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (hexane.wolfram.com [140.177.205.36]) by wolfram.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g267hLL17522; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 01:43:22 -0600 Message-Id: <200203060743.g267hLL17522@wolfram.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 01:39 -0600 Subject: Wolfram Research Product Registration To: Lars Andersson From: Wolfram Research Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Abraham DeMoivre Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Version 4.1 password(s) were generated for license: L4544-1891 Here is the content for your mathpass file: machinename 6139-69202-12330 L4544-1891 6911-745-018:2:9:20021220 Requestor information: Name: Abraham DeMoivre Lab or facility: French Academy Department: Math Email address: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org ------------ Get up to speed with Mathematica quickly! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Mar 5 23:45:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64B537B404; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 851D54B6A6; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:45:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:45:18 -0800 From: murray@stokely.org To: Kent Stewart Cc: murray@FreeBSD.ORG, setantae@submonkey.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter Message-ID: <20020306074518.GB8478@freebsdmall.com> References: <200203051546.g25Fkf587037@freefall.freebsd.org> <3C855990.9090708@owt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C855990.9090708@owt.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Arggh.. That will teach me to do a cvs update in the developers-handbook directory, but not in the higher-level doc directory. Thanks for spotting this, and thanks to Chern for fixing it. - Murray On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:49:36PM -0800, Kent Stewart wrote: >=20 >=20 > murray@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: >=20 > >Synopsis: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter > > > >State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > >State-Changed-By: murray > >State-Changed-When: Tue Mar 5 07:45:44 PST 2002 > >State-Changed-Why:=20 > >Committed in r1.40. I noticed one more unecessary word, but otherwise > >the patch was applied as submitted. Thanks for the submission! > > > > > >http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D34921 > > >=20 >=20 > When I try to update the docs, the make process doesn't understand=20 > in the line >=20 > the devel/ddd port in order to use the >=20 > The error message is >=20 > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ke= rneldebug/chapter.sgml:247:15:E:=20 > element "PORT" undefined >=20 > Kent >=20 > --=20 > Kent Stewart > Richland, WA >=20 > mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com > http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hckNtNcQog5FH30RAhMbAJ9qNOEgfnfu586oQ64Zvc5x3sqLOgCfUwV0 KtIi4lPIynTW34R/ZjjTYMw= =dDog -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 1:55:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEC337B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 01:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iY8Y-0007Dv-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:55:06 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iY8G-000Dgn-00; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:54:48 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:54:48 +0000 From: Ceri To: murray@stokely.org Cc: Kent Stewart , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/34921: Developer's Handbook fixes continued: Kernel Debugging chapter Message-ID: <20020306095448.GA52470@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , murray@stokely.org, Kent Stewart , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203051546.g25Fkf587037@freefall.freebsd.org> <3C855990.9090708@owt.com> <20020306074518.GB8478@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020306074518.GB8478@freebsdmall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:45:18PM -0800, murray@stokely.org wrote: > Arggh.. That will teach me to do a cvs update in the > developers-handbook directory, but not in the higher-level doc > directory. Thanks for spotting this, and thanks to Chern for fixing > it. And it'll teach me to keep a closer eye on the old PR's I've submitted. Pass me that pointy hat, Murray... 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Wybierz: e-witryne lub e-sklep. http://handel.getin.pl/ --====2QK1CZJGA0JVAE6MSJST-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 2:48: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow058o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C532237B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 02:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:23:58 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified [62.31.193.116]) by pcow058m.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:23:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:24:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: FreeBSD Doc List Cc: pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? In-Reply-To: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> Message-ID: <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, pirat wrote: > am not quite sure i understand it correctly or not. as appear in exmaple > 3.6 & example 3.7 of the fdp-primer, an environment variable > SGML_CATALOG_FILES setting is quite unusaul. the last two lines should > not have and equal sign (=) For the csh/tcsh (example 3.7) section you are correct, the lines should not have '=' in them. In the previous example the '=' should indeed be present and is used correctly. This is one of those annoying syntax differences between sh and csh. There is also a problem with the last line setting the variable up (the one before the export for sh/bash or the last one for csh/tcsh) in that it is missing a :$SGML_CATALOG_FILES at the end of it. Thus, using the examples as is, the SGML_CATALOG_FILES variable will be set to /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog regardless which is...wrong. I'm currently working on the primer (very close to a first patch in fact) which addresses a number of issues so I will add this in at the same time. Thanks for spotting it :) Andy -- Andrew McKay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 4:29:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.ibpmail.net (smtp01.ibpmail.net [194.151.203.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6D637B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 04:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp-nplex.ibpmail.net (194.151.203.161) by smtp01.ibpmail.net (6.0.040) id 3C7F8377000528FD; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:29:43 +0100 Received: from kuehne-nagel.com (194.151.203.193) by ibp-nplex.ibpmail.net (6.0.040) id 3C636ADE002BE8FC; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:29:48 +0100 Message-ID: <3C860D29.13FE117F@kuehne-nagel.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:35:53 -0300 From: Maciel Mafra Organization: KN Automotivo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, maciel.mafra@ibest.com.br Subject: Free BSD doc. 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References: <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew McKay wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, pirat wrote: > > >>am not quite sure i understand it correctly or not. as appear in exmaple >>3.6 & example 3.7 of the fdp-primer, an environment variable >>SGML_CATALOG_FILES setting is quite unusaul. the last two lines should >>not have and equal sign (=) >> > > For the csh/tcsh (example 3.7) section you are correct, the lines should > not have '=' in them. In the previous example the '=' should indeed be > present and is used correctly. This is one of those annoying syntax > differences between sh and csh. > > There is also a problem with the last line setting the variable up (the > one before the export for sh/bash or the last one for csh/tcsh) in that it > is missing a :$SGML_CATALOG_FILES at the end of it. Thus, using the > examples as is, the SGML_CATALOG_FILES variable will be set to > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog regardless which is...wrong. > > I'm currently working on the primer (very close to a first patch in fact) > which addresses a number of issues so I will add this in at the same time. > > Thanks for spotting it :) > > Andy > > While your at it, add something about the use of &man.pkg.add.1 instead of &man.pkg_add.1; because the underscore "_" is an illegal character and will cause build fails. I was going to do it, but the possibility of obsoleting your work keeps this idea pushed back. In other doc-related news, I have never setup those sgml variables, just to see what would happen... With that in mind, I have had absolutly NO problem building or working with the doc system. To be more honest, I even forgot they were around... 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Regards, Prince Jide L.Ige (jlige@rediffmail.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 7:56:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D073D37B405 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ftw000652; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:55:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:55:58 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Andrew McKay Cc: FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan>; from andy@openirc.co.uk on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:24:24AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org D'oh! My bad. Andy, please don't bother catching this in your big patch; I would like to clean up my own messes. Thanks! So, Bruce, almighty mentor, does this count as my first -doc pointy hat? :-) On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:24:24AM +0000, Andrew McKay wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, pirat wrote: > > > am not quite sure i understand it correctly or not. as appear in exmaple > > 3.6 & example 3.7 of the fdp-primer, an environment variable > > SGML_CATALOG_FILES setting is quite unusaul. the last two lines should > > not have and equal sign (=) > > For the csh/tcsh (example 3.7) section you are correct, the lines should > not have '=' in them. In the previous example the '=' should indeed be > present and is used correctly. This is one of those annoying syntax > differences between sh and csh. > > There is also a problem with the last line setting the variable up (the > one before the export for sh/bash or the last one for csh/tcsh) in that it > is missing a :$SGML_CATALOG_FILES at the end of it. Thus, using the > examples as is, the SGML_CATALOG_FILES variable will be set to > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog regardless which is...wrong. > > I'm currently working on the primer (very close to a first patch in fact) > which addresses a number of issues so I will add this in at the same time. > > Thanks for spotting it :) > > Andy > > -- > Andrew McKay > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 8:21:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E43437B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020306162146.HARD1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:21:46 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26GLkq06124; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:21:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? In-reply-to: <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Wed, 06 Mar 2002 10:55:58 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 08:21:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > So, Bruce, almighty mentor, does this count as my first -doc pointy > hat? :-) Hmmm. Usually pointy hats are reserved for things like breaking a program (or worse, a build). On the other hand, it's not like we have any shortage of them around this place. :-) Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 8:29:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658CB37B416; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26GTbP00940; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:29:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:29:37 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020306112937.B847@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:21:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:21:46AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > So, Bruce, almighty mentor, does this count as my first -doc pointy > > hat? :-) > > Hmmm. Usually pointy hats are reserved for things like breaking a > program (or worse, a build). On the other hand, it's not like we have > any shortage of them around this place. :-) I, for one, refuse to lower our standards for something as important as pointy hats! That way lies Linux and, much further beyond that, Windows. I'll have to figure out some way to do enough damage to -doc to actually rate a legitimate, well-earned pointy hat. How I love a challenge... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 8:34:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A391037B416; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g26GZwq12224; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:35:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C8647AA.7050207@pittgoth.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 11:45:30 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020306112937.B847@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:21:46AM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > >>If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: >> >> >>>So, Bruce, almighty mentor, does this count as my first -doc pointy >>>hat? :-) >>> >>Hmmm. Usually pointy hats are reserved for things like breaking a >>program (or worse, a build). On the other hand, it's not like we have >>any shortage of them around this place. :-) >> > > I, for one, refuse to lower our standards for something as important > as pointy hats! That way lies Linux and, much further beyond that, > Windows. I'll have to figure out some way to do enough damage to -doc > to actually rate a legitimate, well-earned pointy hat. > > How I love a challenge... > > hmmmm, why not remove a tag from the handbook somewhere, and let the build find it ;) Like playing a game of hide and go seek with the doc tree hehe -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 8:36:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C9237B419; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Gael01051; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:36:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:36:39 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020306113639.C959@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020306112937.B847@blackhelicopters.org> <3C8647AA.7050207@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C8647AA.7050207@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:45:30AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:45:30AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > hmmmm, why not remove a tag from the handbook somewhere, and let > the build find it ;) Like playing a game of hide and go seek with the > doc tree hehe Far, far too obvious. That will show up the first time someone runs "make lint"; it will even spit out line numbers where the error is. Our build process is far too resilient, and will easily detect such trivial damage. Nik did too good a job on those Makefiles. -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 8:49: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC837B42F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26GmTp01184; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:48:29 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Andrew McKay Cc: FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020306114829.A1158@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan>; from andy@openirc.co.uk on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:24:24AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fixed. Changes may take up to 24 hours to be visible on the main Web server. Thanks for pointing this out, Pirat! On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:24:24AM +0000, Andrew McKay wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, pirat wrote: > > > am not quite sure i understand it correctly or not. as appear in exmaple > > 3.6 & example 3.7 of the fdp-primer, an environment variable > > SGML_CATALOG_FILES setting is quite unusaul. the last two lines should > > not have and equal sign (=) > > For the csh/tcsh (example 3.7) section you are correct, the lines should > not have '=' in them. In the previous example the '=' should indeed be > present and is used correctly. This is one of those annoying syntax > differences between sh and csh. > > There is also a problem with the last line setting the variable up (the > one before the export for sh/bash or the last one for csh/tcsh) in that it > is missing a :$SGML_CATALOG_FILES at the end of it. Thus, using the > examples as is, the SGML_CATALOG_FILES variable will be set to > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog regardless which is...wrong. > > I'm currently working on the primer (very close to a first patch in fact) > which addresses a number of issues so I will add this in at the same time. > > Thanks for spotting it :) > > Andy > > -- > Andrew McKay > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 13:33:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA1F37B402; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23103; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:29:17 -0800 Message-ID: <3C868A2D.40209@owt.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:29:17 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Tom Rhodes , "Bruce A. Mah" , Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? References: <20020306143149.A2559@radwaste.oaep.go.th> <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <20020306105558.A594@blackhelicopters.org> <200203061621.g26GLkq06124@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020306112937.B847@blackhelicopters.org> <3C8647AA.7050207@pittgoth.com> <20020306113639.C959@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:45:30AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>hmmmm, why not remove a tag from the handbook somewhere, and let >>the build find it ;) Like playing a game of hide and go seek with the >>doc tree hehe >> > > Far, far too obvious. That will show up the first time someone runs > "make lint"; it will even spit out line numbers where the error is. > > Our build process is far too resilient, and will easily detect such > trivial damage. Nik did too good a job on those Makefiles. That is true; however, the breakage yesterday went almost 11 hours before it was fixed. By the time the cvsup mirrors had it, it would have been broken for half a day. I liken that response time to turning one of the fully loaded, huge oil tankers and saying it was a fast turn when it was finally accomplished. Half a day is probably fast enough for the docs but it is a long time in the computer world. From my end, it wasn't a really bad thing because I learned something watching it be fixed. I maintain local copies because a network asset isn't an asset when your network line is down. One of Sprintlink's routers in Tacoma, Wa was down for almost half a day recently and my local docs were all that I had. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 14:44:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FF837B421 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26MiYK03949 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:44:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:44:34 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 14:49:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612CA37B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b157.otenet.gr [212.205.244.165]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26Mn7uj001926; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:49:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26Mmu0s030151; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:49:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g26HQAOm026611; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:26:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:26:10 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020306172610.GD11735@hades.hell.gr> References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > - Have several machines on a network and share a CDROM or > - floppy drive among them. This is cheaper and often more > - convenient. > + Set several machines to share a CDROM or > + other media among them. This is cheaper and often > + a more convenient method to install software on multiple machines. "This is a cheaper and often" ^ > + On large networks, it might be more convenient to configure a > + central NFS server in which to store all the user > + home directories. These home directories can then be exported to > + the network so that users would always have the same home directory, > + regardless of which workstation they log in to. These home directories can ... network. This way, the users will ... I find the use of 'can' and 'would' a bit awkward here. But we're nitpicking on this patch for quite a while now. IMHO, if nobody else has any objections, I'd like to see this go in. Minor mistakes can be corrected if and when they're found, later on. It looks pretty good now. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 14:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8D637B405 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b157.otenet.gr [212.205.244.165]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26Mn7uj001933; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:49:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g26Mmu0u030151; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:49:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g26HIdAe026196; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:18:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:18:38 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The patch now seems rather nice. To all of you NFS gurus out there, one last question, this time a bit technical and on the side of correctness of the instructions we show in our samples to our poor^Wnewbie users :-) > - On the NFS server: > + On the NFS server: > > &prompt.root; portmap > &prompt.root; nfsd -u -t -n 4 > &prompt.root; mountd -r What happens if portmap is already running? Will starting portmap again, make sure that the old portmapper dies gracefully? Or should we add proper killall commands in between those lines for each of the programs started. > - On the NFS client: > + On the NFS client: > > &prompt.root; nfsiod -n 4 Ditto. Does the administrator of the NFS client machine have to kill already running nfsiod processes before starting nfsiod again? Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 14:50:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21102.mail.yahoo.com (web21102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89E4F37B444 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020306225016.78320.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 14:50:16 PST Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:50:16 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 To: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Michael Lucas wrote: > Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of > our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with > the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html > > Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! Hi, I don't mind doing it. As this one will not take a very long time, not more than a couple of hours of good work! :) can I? Regards, -- Hiten Pandya -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 14:57:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A6D37B405 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:57:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16ikLt-0000ol-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 22:57:41 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16ikLd-0000qj-00; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 22:57:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 22:57:25 +0000 From: Ceri To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306225725.GA1577@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Folks, > > Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of > our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with > the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html > > Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! Everyone happy with the content ? I'll mark it up, no problem. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:13:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B523237B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18096 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 23:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Mar 2002 23:13:03 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A32A53136; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:13:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:13:00 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Michael Lucas Cc: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, setantae@submonkey.net, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306231300.GB11540@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 at 17:44:34 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Folks, > > Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of > our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with > the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html > > Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! Erm, read your commit mail :-) I did this earlier today. jim 2002/03/06 13:22:10 PST Modified files: en/internal Makefile developer.sgml Added files: en/internal new-account.sgml Log: Bring in a document describing the new account creation procedure and tie it into the build. Requested by: unfurl Revision Changes Path 1.29 +2 -1 www/en/internal/Makefile 1.19 +3 -1 www/en/internal/developer.sgml 1.1 +60 -0 www/en/internal/new-account.sgml (new) - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:20:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7842A37B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26NK9Y04180; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:20:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:20:08 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Ceri , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306182008.B4102@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> <20020306225725.GA1577@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020306225725.GA1577@submonkey.net>; from setantae@submonkey.net on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:57:25PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Just as a reference; if you're going to claim one of these tasks, please do so on -doc. I got *four* private responses back on this, plus Ceri's here. Suppose all five of you guys did the work? Only one of you would have your work committed. Those of you who did the work would feel (rightfully) resentful because we ignored your work. Those of us who are committers would have the headache of choosing one of the five, when this is an excellent example of just needing something Good Enough. The proper place to coordinate work really is -doc. I'm not assigning tasks, I'm not coordinating tasks, I'm not the Doc Proj Manager; I'm just a guy who keeps turning over rocks and finding these things. (I could do the work, mind you; this sort of thing is what I do for a living. But I don't have the time, and Nik is our "manager.") If you're truly interested in this job, or any other junior -doc hacker task, please fight over it in public so Bruce, Murray, and others can also sit back and enjoy the fun. Heck, jhb is a -doc committer, he'd probably enjoy watching someone else argue for a change. (insert *really* big figlet smilie here.) ==ml On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:57:25PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 05:44:34PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of > > our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with > > the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html > > > > Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! > > Everyone happy with the content ? > > I'll mark it up, no problem. > > Ceri > > -- > keep a mild groove on -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:23:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822A37B41E for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26NMuf04222; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:22:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:22:56 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Jim Mock Cc: hitmaster2k@yahoo.com, setantae@submonkey.net, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306182255.D4102@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> <20020306231300.GB11540@helios.dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020306231300.GB11540@helios.dub.net>; from mij@soupnazi.org on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:13:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim, Bill contacted me just a couple hours ago on this. I'm not going to do well at unloading work onto younger backs if you keep being so damn efficient. :-) On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:13:00PM -0800, Jim Mock wrote: > On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 at 17:44:34 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > Bill's FreeBSD account creation page really needs to be made part of > > our internal web site, marked up appropriately, and made to fit with > > the rest of our docs under www/en/internal. > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~unfurl/new-account.html > > > > Anyone up to the challenge? Come on, it'll make a man out of you! > > Erm, read your commit mail :-) I did this earlier today. > > jim 2002/03/06 13:22:10 PST > > Modified files: > en/internal Makefile developer.sgml > Added files: > en/internal new-account.sgml > Log: > Bring in a document describing the new account creation procedure and > tie it into the build. > > Requested by: unfurl > > Revision Changes Path > 1.29 +2 -1 www/en/internal/Makefile > 1.19 +3 -1 www/en/internal/developer.sgml > 1.1 +60 -0 www/en/internal/new-account.sgml (new) > > > - jim > > -- > jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:30:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B781537B419 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26NU1P62913; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FF237B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A38BD44 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08357 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:29:40 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NWwY41957; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <496649gtlh.649@localhost.localdomain> Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:32:58 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35602: dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "active file systems". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35602 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "active file systems". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The two man pages use "active file system" as if it has a particular meaning but the term is nowhere described, leaving the user wondering and/or adding to freebsd-questions. ALSO: The dump(8) map page should also explain the implications of using it on an active FS (an implied suggestion in the Tower of Hanoi paragraph), maybe in the form of a WARNING, or BUG. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: FreeBSD needs a "jargon" doc somewhere (man page, section of man pages, section of Handbook, article, ...). For now, add descriptions to these man pages. I'm not sure what it means. Mike Meyer said "An active file system is being changed." and implied that even an writable FS can be inactive. (SoftUpdates with it's big delays comes to mind here.) Unmounted and read-only FSs are always inactive. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:39:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B790937B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8691 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 23:39:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Mar 2002 23:39:05 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 78EA93125; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:39:04 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: junior -doc hacker task #832 Message-ID: <20020306233904.GD11540@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <20020306174434.B3891@blackhelicopters.org> <20020306231300.GB11540@helios.dub.net> <20020306182255.D4102@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020306182255.D4102@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 06 Mar 2002 at 18:22:56 -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > Jim, > > Bill contacted me just a couple hours ago on this. I'll make sure I give him a slap then the next time I wonder out to have a smoke. He sent Nik and I mail about it this morning, and I was talking to him when I was working on it, so I dunno what happened there.. :-) > I'm not going to do well at unloading work onto younger backs if you > keep being so damn efficient. :-) Eh, he's within physical prodding distance (considering I live with him), so I figured I'd be nice and do him a favor. You're not gonna want to get used to that though ;-) - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:40:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0665A37B42F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1164184; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0295537B419 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A80BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10421 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:42 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26Nc0u41978; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:38:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:38:00 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35609: mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35609 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mt(1) page needs explanation of "long erase". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "erase" description should explain that the default erase option writes something to the entire tape (or whatever it does, I don't know except that it takes a very long time) and that "long" is "very long". It should also explain that disabling "long erase" (with a count of 0) just writes to the tape header (or whatever it does) and should take a short time. It also doesn't say that the tape is left at BOT after erasing. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: I don't feel qualified to explain confidently, but here's my best effort for an "erase" description: Erase the tape and leave it rewound. A "count" of "0" disables the default method which takes a very long time and enables a method which takes a very short time. (The author doesn't know, but the long method might write zeros to the entire tape while the short method writes only to the tape header.) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:41: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F9237B426 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1H64157; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABFE37B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD284BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09958 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:28 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26Nakg41969; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:36:46 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35606: date(1) page doesn't say which clock(s) it sets. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35606 >Category: docs >Synopsis: date(1) page doesn't say which clock(s) it sets. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The date(1) man page doesn't say which of the CMOS/motherboard and CPU/OS clocks the program sets (it sets both), which is less than helpful to those used to other operating systems (eg, Linux) where the clocks may be set separately (which is considered a feature, not a bug, by many who've thought about it much). Despite what some long- time Unix SA my think, it's not obvious that "date" should change the CMOS/motherboard clock too. Of less importance, it also doesn't say which of the two clocks it is reporting on when it displays "the time". Few will guess wrong, but man pages should not assume good guessing. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Explain that "date" sets both the CMOS/motherboard and the CPU/OS clocks. Explain that it only reports on the CPU/OS clock. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:41: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C8837B41F for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1C64130; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6281A37B417 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1797DBD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09359 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:31:57 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NZG641960; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:35:16 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35603: grep(1) page is missing info on zfgrep, zegrep Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35603 >Category: docs >Synopsis: grep(1) page is missing info on zfgrep, zegrep >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "Name" and "Description" sections of the grep(1) man page do not mention "zegrep" and "zfgrep" (which are hard-linked to "grep"). ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Remove this from the "Description" section: In addition, two variant programs egrep and fgrep are available. egrep is the same as grep -E. fgrep is the same as grep -F. zgrep is the same as grep -Z. Add this to the end of the "Synopsis" section: In addition, five variant programs are available: "egrep" is the same as "grep -E". "fgrep" is the same as "grep -F". "zgrep" is the same as "grep -Z". "zegrep" is the same as "grep -ZE". "zfgrep" is the same as "grep -ZF". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:41:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF77C37B428 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1364166; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147A937B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A8FBD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10258 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:12 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NbUZ41972; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:37:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:37:30 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35607: dump(1) page needs discussion of scary error-ignoring bug. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35607 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dump(1) page needs discussion of scary error-ignoring bug. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "Bugs" section's first paragraph is: Fewer than 32 read errors on the filesystem are ignored. This is just too scary and needs some explanation so that users may make an informed decision whether to use this for backup or not, how much it may be trusted, why 32 errors is no big deal, etc. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Research the facts and then write a replacement for the above "Bugs" paragraph. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:41:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9A37B421 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1p64139; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFA437B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293C5BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09511 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:32:30 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NZmZ41963; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:35:48 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35604: arp(4) page mentions 10Mb/s but not 100Mb/s. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35604 >Category: docs >Synopsis: arp(4) page mentions 10Mb/s but not 100Mb/s. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The arp(4) man page says it only supports 10Mb/s Ethernet, while it seems to support 100Mb/s (and maybe gigabit Ethernet, FAIK). (I'm not sure why it mentioned 10Mb/s to begin with, and I don't feel knowledgeable enough about the subject to change it.) ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:42: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32B737B423 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1064148; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB0037B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9C0BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09842 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:33:04 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NaNd41966; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <7dsn7dfevd.n7d@localhost.localdomain> Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:36:22 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35605: chmod(1) page misleads by use of "regardless" (re sticky bit). Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35605 >Category: docs >Synopsis: chmod(1) page misleads by use of "regardless" (re sticky bit). >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The sticky bit explanation can be read to imply that the permissions on the directory are ignored when the owner tries to delete his own files. (They are not.) ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Simply remove ", regardless of the permissions on the directory". Optionally, make it verbose by replacing that with: ", but only if otherwise allowed, given the permissions and ownership". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:42:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48C837B42A for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne1964175; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8404137B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42885BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10343 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:27 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26Nbkg41975; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <3dg03dfet2.03d@localhost.localdomain> Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:37:45 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35608: mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35608 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explanation. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The mt(1) man page refers to "setmark" in several places without giving a hint as to what it is. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Add description of "setmark" to man page. (This kind of info should be in the Jargon or Mag Tape sections of the Handbook, but they're missing.) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:42:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF7B37B431 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne2W64193; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAB137B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B97BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10508 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:34:57 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NcFE41981; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:38:15 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35610: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35610 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "History" section has an obsolete reference to "this release". Also, it does not mention the history of scanf, sscanf, and fscanf. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Remove the History section? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:42:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6B937B433 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne2v64202; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CAC37B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E29BD10 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10605 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:14 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26NcWr41984; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:38:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:38:32 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35611: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35611 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "History" section has an obsolete reference to "this release". Also, it does not mention the history of scanf, sscanf, and fscanf. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Remove the History section? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 15:43:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6A337B435 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g26Ne2664211; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DAD37B402 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04624BD11 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10677 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:35:27 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g26Nckq41987; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 06 Mar 2002 15:38:46 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35612: ps(1) page "state" description doesn't mention "spread". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35612 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ps(1) page "state" description doesn't mention "spread". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 15:40:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The ps(1) man page "state" description implies that only single-character indicators are used and doesn't describe the several words that may appear there, like: spread, select, accept, sbwait (observed in a "ps" output posted to a mailing list). The "top" man page probably has a similar problem. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Because this is really a "kernel" thing that could effect other programs like "top", it probably should be discussed in the Handbook and referred to from the man page(s). Here is a bit of a mailing list: > What does a "spread" state mean? This server is a multiprocessor box > if it helps. Actually, it's obvious from the top that you've got an smp machine. You don't get CPU1 and a C column on up machines. > man on top, cp, and ps make no mention of it. That's because what's being shown is a reason the developer gave for putting the process in a sleep state. In fact, that's what all the lower case ones are. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 19:15:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A44837B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:15:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from fenner@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g273FYN20881 for doc; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:15:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fenner) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:15:34 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Porter's handbook changes for review Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I made the mistake of noticing some omissions from the __FreeBSD_version list in the porter's handbook, and somehow that turned into volunteering to fix them. Since I can't get the doc tree to build (since I only checked out a piece of it and setting DOC_PREFIX to someone else's already checked out copy doesn't seem to work), I can't test these changes, so could someone make sure these changes are vaguely reasonable? Thanks, Bill cvs diff: Diffing . Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.195 diff -u -r1.195 book.sgml --- book.sgml 28 Feb 2002 23:24:58 -0000 1.195 +++ book.sgml 7 Mar 2002 03:09:03 -0000 @@ -2787,6 +2787,16 @@ + 3.5-RELEASE + 350000 + + + + 3.5-STABLE + 350001 + + + 4.0-CURRENT after 3.4 branch 400000 @@ -2898,6 +2908,12 @@ + 4.0-STABLE after the introduction of delayed + checksums. + 400019 + + + 4.0-STABLE after merging libxpg4 code into libc. 400020 @@ -2983,6 +2999,16 @@ 440003 + + 4.5-RELEASE + 450000 + + + + 4.5-STABLE after the usb structure rename. + 450001 + + 5.0-CURRENT @@ -3168,6 +3194,11 @@ type fflags_t, which is the appropriate size for file flags. 500030 + + + + 5.0-CURRENT after the usb structure rename. + 500031 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 20:40: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ss14.estore.co.jp (ss14.estore.co.jp [210.239.44.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4540037B417 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27113 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2002 13:39:50 +0900 Received: (qmail 26598 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2002 13:39:23 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (218.217.3.232) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2002 13:39:23 +0900 From: sales@likefinance.com To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOS05cCEqISpBNDlxPzY5fk07O3E8QjtcQ2YhKhsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCISobKEI=?= Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:35:43 +0900 X-Sender: opt0459-sales@mail.likefinance.com Message-Id: <20030307044046030.00000.0.opt0459-sales@ap.mail.likefinance.com> X-Mailer: Douhou@Mail version 1.0.0.1/1.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B9-9p!*(B $BFMA3$9$_$^$;$s!#(B $B5^$J=PHq$G$*:$$j$NJ}$*NO$K$J$j$^$9!#(B $B%i%$%/%U%!%$%J%s%9!!ET!J(B1$B!K(B22433 $B#2#4;~4V$5$l$J$$J}$O(B $B$3$A$i$^$G$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B $BO"Mm@h(B office@likefinance.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Mar 6 23:20:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53A637B416 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g277K1p69185; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from rumori.com (client62-2-193-38.hispeed.ch [62.2.193.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C58837B404 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 23:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ast@localhost) by rumori.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g277CIi10345; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:12:18 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ast) Message-Id: <200203070712.g277CIi10345@rumori.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:12:18 +0100 (MET) From: Adrian Steinmann Reply-To: Adrian Steinmann To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35620: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35620 >Category: docs >Synopsis: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 06 23:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: ast >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-STYX i386 >Organization: Webgroup Consulting AG >Environment: System: FreeBSD rumori.com 4.4-STYX FreeBSD 4.4-STYX #2: Fri Aug 31 13:23:17 MEST 2001 root@rumori.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RUM i386 make release environment >Description: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 It seems that as of Feb 27th the src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml file contains tags which causes make release on the RELENG_4_5 branch to fail because that tag is not defined. cvs di -u -D27-Feb-02 -D28-Feb-02 /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common - $FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml,v 1.286 2002/02/23 06:00:56 bmah Exp $ + $FreeBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml,v 1.287 2002/02/27 05:10:38 dd Exp $ ... - emulators/linux_base-7 (RedHat 7.X emulation) + emulators/linux_base-7 (RedHat 7.X emulation) .. From make log: ===> en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha /bin/cp -p /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/share/misc/docbook.css docbook.css /usr/local/bin/jade -V nochunks -ioutput.html -d /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -ioutput.html.images -V %generate-article-toc% -D /usr/obj/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha -c /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../../../../doc/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/iso8879/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -c /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../../../share/sgml/catalog -t sgml /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/article.sgml > article.html || (/bin/rm -f article.html && false) /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:110:9:E: element "PORT" undefined /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:279:44:E: element "PORT" undefined /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:766:41:E: element "PORT" undefined /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/alpha/../common/../common/new.sgml:777:43:E: element "PORT" undefined *** Error code 1 >How-To-Repeat: make release with RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 >Fix: define tag or go back to pre-Feb 28th version of new.sgml >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 0:10: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCD537B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g278A3S82458; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203070810.g278A3S82458@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: RE: docs/35611: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35611; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: bug-followup@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: RE: docs/35611: sscanf(3) page has obsolete "this release". Date: 07 Mar 2002 00:13:03 -0800 PR 35611 is a duplicate of 35610 and should be canceled. (I had two different sscanf PRs but sent the first one twice.) Sorry. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 0:10: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BF437B416 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g278A1C82453; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7069E37B428 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103DDBD4E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18892 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:04:02 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2787IY45761; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <7csn7cer7t.n7c@localhost.localdomain> Date: 07 Mar 2002 00:07:18 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35623: sscanf(3) man page has broken "suppression" reference. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35623 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sscanf(3) man page has broken "suppression" reference. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 00:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The sscanf(3) man page says "see 'suppression' below", but that word doesn't appear elsewhere in the page. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Change to "see the '*' conversion below". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 0:40:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D17737B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5320 invoked by uid 10); 7 Mar 2002 08:40:01 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g278bP698183 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:37:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:37:25 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Porter's handbook changes for review Message-ID: <20020307093725.E88805@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:15:34PM -0800, fenner@FreeBSD.org wrote: > so could someone make sure these changes > are vaguely reasonable? except for the usual whitespace trouble, the patch applies cleanly and it compiles... uh, survives the make, that is. The table looks good in lynx, as well. I just noticed one thing: 3.5-RELEASE was followed by 3.5.1-RELEASE after a few days because of some nasty bug in the Kerberos code. According to the cvs log, __FreeBSD_version was not bumped for this, but I think you should list 3.5.1 in the table. /s/Udo -- Schnell und schluepfrig wie geoeltes Ferkel auf Crack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 1:19:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EEB37B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16iu3G-0006S2-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:19:06 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16iu1Y-0001iE-00; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:17:20 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:17:20 +0000 From: Ceri To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Giorgos Keramidas , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:18:38PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > The patch now seems rather nice. To all of you NFS gurus out there, one > last question, this time a bit technical and on the side of correctness of > the instructions we show in our samples to our poor^Wnewbie users :-) > > > - On the NFS server: > > + On the NFS server: > > > > &prompt.root; portmap > > &prompt.root; nfsd -u -t -n 4 > > &prompt.root; mountd -r > > What happens if portmap is already running? Will starting portmap again, > make sure that the old portmapper dies gracefully? Or should we add proper > killall commands in between those lines for each of the programs started. It just pukes out : {setantae@rhadamanth}-{~} $ su Password: {root@rhadamanth}-{/home/setantae} # ps -ax |grep portmap 112 ?? Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/portmap -h 192.168.10.1 {root@rhadamanth}-{/home/setantae} # portmap {root@rhadamanth}-{/home/setantae} # ps -ax |grep portmap 112 ?? Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/portmap -h 192.168.10.1 {root@rhadamanth}-{/home/setantae} # grep portmap /var/adm/all.log Mar 7 09:12:45 rhadamanth portmap[6460]: cannot bind udp: Address already in use {root@rhadamanth}-{/home/setantae} # exit > > - On the NFS client: > > + On the NFS client: > > > > &prompt.root; nfsiod -n 4 > > Ditto. Does the administrator of the NFS client machine have to kill > already running nfsiod processes before starting nfsiod again? I only have a -current NFS client, but this is what that does : {root@amam}-{/home/setantae} # ps -ax |grep nfsiod 31 ?? IL 0:00.02 (nfsiod 0) 32 ?? IL 0:00.02 (nfsiod 1) 33 ?? IL 0:00.00 (nfsiod 2) 34 ?? IL 0:00.00 (nfsiod 3) 27559 p0 S+ 0:00.01 grep nfsiod {root@amam}-{/home/setantae} # nfsiod -n 4 {root@amam}-{/home/setantae} # ps -ax | grep nfsiod 31 ?? IL 0:00.02 (nfsiod 0) 32 ?? IL 0:00.02 (nfsiod 1) 33 ?? IL 0:00.00 (nfsiod 2) 34 ?? IL 0:00.00 (nfsiod 3) 27567 p0 RV 0:00.00 grep nfsiod (csh) {root@amam}-{/home/setantae} # grep nfsiod /var/adm/messages Mar 7 09:15:26 amam nfsiod:[27562]: nfssvc: Device not configured Mar 7 09:15:26 amam nfsiod:[27563]: nfssvc: Device not configured Mar 7 09:15:26 amam nfsiod:[27564]: nfssvc: Device not configured Mar 7 09:15:26 amam nfsiod:[27565]: nfssvc: Device not configured {root@amam}-{/home/setantae} # Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 5:58:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D96037B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 05:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27DwQa07679; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:58:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:58:26 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porter's handbook changes for review Message-ID: <20020307085826.A7649@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020307093725.E88805@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020307093725.E88805@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:37:25AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > Hi, > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:15:34PM -0800, fenner@FreeBSD.org wrote: > > so could someone make sure these changes > > are vaguely reasonable? > > except for the usual whitespace trouble, the patch applies cleanly and > it compiles... uh, survives the make, that is. The table looks good > in lynx, as well. And our translation teams would be eternally grateful if you would fix the whitespace issues. :-) Looks good here! -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 6:10: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0423637B416 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17424 invoked by uid 10); 7 Mar 2002 14:10:00 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.6/8.11.2) id g27E9C599037; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:09:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ue) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:09:12 +0100 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porter's handbook changes for review Message-ID: <20020307150912.G88805@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: Michael Lucas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020307093725.E88805@nathan.ruhr.de> <20020307085826.A7649@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020307085826.A7649@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:58:26AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > And our translation teams would be eternally grateful if you would fix > the whitespace issues. :-) Well, the cause of the problems was the format of the patch. When you have to copy and paste the patch out of a mail, everything is a space. And, anyway, the patch option -l is there for a reason ;-) /s/Udo -- It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 6:15:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57D937B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27EFHq07847 for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:17 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porter's handbook changes for review Message-ID: <20020307091517.A7828@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203070315.g273FYN20881@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020307093725.E88805@nathan.ruhr.de> <20020307085826.A7649@blackhelicopters.org> <20020307150912.G88805@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020307150912.G88805@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:09:12PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 03:09:12PM +0100, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > Well, the cause of the problems was the format of the patch. When you > have to copy and paste the patch out of a mail, everything is a space. > And, anyway, the patch option -l is there for a reason ;-) patch -l? Well, once again, I will be damned. Never mind, problem solved... -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 7:42:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4804637B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 07:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27Fifq14440; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 10:54:16 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:18:38PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >>The patch now seems rather nice. To all of you NFS gurus out there, one >>last question, this time a bit technical and on the side of correctness of >>the instructions we show in our samples to our poor^Wnewbie users :-) >> Email info has been saved. I am assuming the current can be applied by MW Lucas. I think that you, Ceri, is the last person i'm waiting for a comment on. ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 8:12:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063EE37B421 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16j0VW-0002Im-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 16:12:42 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16j0VF-000Mkl-00; Thu, 07 Mar 2002 16:12:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:12:25 +0000 From: Ceri To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020307161225.GA87345@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-message-flag: If you can read this, get a better mail client Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:54:16AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Ceri wrote: > > >On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:18:38PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > >>The patch now seems rather nice. To all of you NFS gurus out there, one > >>last question, this time a bit technical and on the side of correctness of > >>the instructions we show in our samples to our poor^Wnewbie users :-) > >> > > Email info has been saved. I am assuming the current can be applied by > MW Lucas. I think that you, Ceri, is the last person i'm waiting for a > comment on. ;) Whuh? Who, me.. ? Go for it :) Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 8:35:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C7437B422 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 08:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g27Gbaq14518; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:37:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C87998E.1050800@pittgoth.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 11:47:10 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Michael Lucas , Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> <20020307161225.GA87345@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:54:16AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>Ceri wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:18:38PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> >>> >>>>The patch now seems rather nice. To all of you NFS gurus out there, one >>>>last question, this time a bit technical and on the side of correctness of >>>>the instructions we show in our samples to our poor^Wnewbie users :-) >>>> >>>> >>Email info has been saved. I am assuming the current can be applied by >>MW Lucas. I think that you, Ceri, is the last person i'm waiting for a >>comment on. ;) >> > > Whuh? Who, me.. ? > > Go for it :) > > Ceri > > You heard him everyone ;) Lets apply so I can start on some more parts of the advanced networking chapter hehehe... -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 9: 5:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B363E37B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27H5Aj25841; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:05:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:05:10 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff Message-ID: <20020307120510.A13330@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> <20020307161225.GA87345@submonkey.net> <3C87998E.1050800@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C87998E.1050800@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:47:10AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:47:10AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > You heard him everyone ;) Lets apply so I can start on some more parts > of the advanced networking chapter hehehe... > Oh, no, that's not the way we do things here. Completed, good patches must fester^H^H^H^H^H^Hage in the PR database for at least six months. They're like cheese, and must season. (Unless, of course, Jim Mock happens to be free and feels like taking care of them.) I'll commit this when I can, but today it is *not* in my schedule. :-( If someone else feels like it, they should feel free. Tom, however, should feel free to start generating patches on whatever he works on next. Since the latest version is in GNATS, his work is immortalized for all time. (So, what is the *longest* PR in the database? Is this one even close?) ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 9:16:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931E137B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020307171650.NRXY1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:16:50 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27HGnr19793; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:16:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203071716.g27HGnr19793@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: Tom Rhodes , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35098: [PATCH] Handbook NFS stuff In-reply-to: <20020307120510.A13330@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200203052340.g25Ne2R93047@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020306171838.GC11735@hades.hell.gr> <20020307091720.GA6465@submonkey.net> <3C878D28.6010505@pittgoth.com> <20020307161225.GA87345@submonkey.net> <3C87998E.1050800@pittgoth.com> <20020307120510.A13330@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Thu, 07 Mar 2002 12:05:10 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 09:16:49 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > Tom, however, should feel free to start generating patches on whatever > he works on next. Since the latest version is in GNATS, his work is > immortalized for all time. (So, what is the *longest* PR in the > database? Is this one even close?) Believe it or not, it's not even close. freefall:gnats-db% pwd /usr/local/share/gnats/gnats-db freefall:gnats-db% find . -type f -ls | awk '{print $7, $11}' | sort -r -n | nl | head -20 1 6528495 ./gnats-adm/index 2 3707763 ./ports/31443 3 904856 ./ports/27535 4 830307 ./ports/21377 5 830117 ./ports/21361 6 733122 ./ports/10093 7 543621 ./ports/24456 8 513725 ./ports/27643 9 460813 ./kern/3234 10 454174 ./kern/8605 11 436255 ./ports/7672 12 428221 ./gnu/13935 13 422242 ./misc/18128 14 414242 ./kern/8410 15 410282 ./i386/15619 16 387946 ./ports/32231 17 386058 ./bin/2769 18 379900 ./kern/13841 19 379167 ./gnu/22972 20 358830 ./ports/27609 freefall:gnats-db% find . -type f -ls | awk '{print $7, $11}' | sort -r -n | nl | grep 35098 52 164088 ./docs/35098 35098 1536 ./ports/22325 Why the fsck did I just blow away five minutes working on this anyways? Bruce. PS. Idle curiosity (for statistics types): Is the distribution of files in the PR database heavy-tailed? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 10:40:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA01E37B42B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27Ie2s57724; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203071840.g27Ie2s57724@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Bruce A. Mah" Subject: Re: docs/35620: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th Reply-To: "Bruce A. Mah" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35620; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Bruce A. Mah" To: Adrian Steinmann Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35620: make release fails in documentation for RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 as of Feb 28th Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 10:38:26 -0800 If memory serves me right, Adrian Steinmann wrote: > It seems that as of Feb 27th the > src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml file > contains tags which causes make release on the RELENG_4_5 > branch to fail because that tag is not defined. Support for was removed, for reasons that are too long to go into here (the discussion is in the doc@ archive). As a work around, you can try building your release like this: make release RELEASETAG=RELENG_4_5 DOCRELEASETAG=RELEASE_4_5_0 ... This will use a slightly older version of the doc/ tree that still supports the tag. This means that if you build the Handbook, FAQ, or other FDP documents as a part of your release, they'll have the older content as well. FYI: Nobody updates the release notes on the security fix branches. They remain frozen with the contents that they had at the time the corresponding release was tagged. src/UPDATING contains patchlevel information for security fix branches. It'd be nice if this "just worked", but I'm opposed to messing around with the release documentation on the security fix branches just to fix this. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 10:50:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AFA37B41A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27Io1d59036; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81A637B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B72FBD84 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02343 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:43:23 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27IkVa46197; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 10:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 10:46:31 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35637: crash(8) page has obsolete Handbook reference. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35637 >Category: docs >Synopsis: crash(8) page has obsolete Handbook reference. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 10:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The crash() page says "consult the chapter on kernel debugging in the FreeBSD handbook" but there is no such chapter. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 11:10: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8C337B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27JA2b65183; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203071910.g27JA2b65183@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/35637: crash(8) page has obsolete Handbook reference. Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35637; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35637: crash(8) page has obsolete Handbook reference. Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:06:44 +0000 On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:46:31AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > The crash() page says "consult the chapter on kernel debugging in the > FreeBSD handbook" but there is no such chapter. That chapter is now in the developer's handbook. No patch supplied as this is trivial. Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 11:10:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED2737B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27JA1t65176; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567CA37B416 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06AD0BD88 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10233 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:03:04 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27J6HM46446; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 11:06:17 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35641: scbus(4) man page link. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35641 >Category: docs >Synopsis: scbus(4) man page link. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 11:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "scbus" device (eg, in LINT) has no section-4 man page like other devices have. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: A man page for "scbus" should probably be created, but in lieu of that, it would be better than nothing to have it as another link to the SCSI = scsi = CAM = cam man page which is one of many man pages which have a "Synopsis" line for "scbus" (which seems wrong too, but that's probably not worth "fixing"). That man page also has a small bit of info specifically on "scbus" (though others may too). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 11:50:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA7B37B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27Jo1t73313; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EB537B41A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69301BD2A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26800 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:45:12 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27JmPf46541; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 11:48:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <7csn7ccg6u.n7c@localhost.localdomain> Date: 07 Mar 2002 11:48:25 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35642: lo(4) page maybe should document optional "count". Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35642 >Category: docs >Synopsis: lo(4) page maybe should document optional "count". >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 11:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: I'm not sure if this is an enhancement request or a bug, but the /sys/net/if_loop.c's "loopattach" function gives a strong hint that the synopsis of the lo(4) man page could (or should?) be changed from pseudo-device loop to pseudo-device loop [ count ] like the ppp pseudo-device has. The hint is confirmed by the page's "Description" section which mentions "lo%d" in an error message. (I guess FreeBSD users are presumed to know "printf".) ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Determine whether the optional count is really supported and if it is, then change the synopsis line as above and probably change the comment about 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0. (?). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 12:10:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8166737B41F for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27KA3I79251; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:10:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203072010.g27KA3I79251@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brooks Davis Subject: Re: docs/35642: lo(4) page maybe should document optional "count". Reply-To: Brooks Davis Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35642; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brooks Davis To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35642: lo(4) page maybe should document optional "count". Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:06:40 -0800 On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:48:25AM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > I'm not sure if this is an enhancement request or a bug, but the > /sys/net/if_loop.c's "loopattach" function gives a strong hint that the > synopsis of the lo(4) man page could (or should?) be changed from > pseudo-device loop > to > pseudo-device loop [ count ] > like the ppp pseudo-device has. I'd rather this wasn't. This syntax is depricated and will not work in 5.0 as of Monday. -- Brooks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 12:10:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B898637B41C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27KA1l79238; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8551137B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ACCBD80 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:06:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02161 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:06:39 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27K9ql46602; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 12:09:52 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35644: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35644 >Category: docs >Synopsis: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 12:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The lo(4) man page presumes familiarity with "printf" when it uses "%d" in two places. Bad presumption. It also makes the man page look rather like it has had file corruption or formatting errors. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Replace the esoteric "%d" with the much more common "#" in two places. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 12:31:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kicelo.org (217-127-73-173.uc.nombres.ttd.es [217.127.73.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AE537B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from megarcia@localhost) by mail.kicelo.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id g27KWYW20304 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:32:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:32:34 +0100 From: Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: fips Message-ID: <20020307213234.A20212@mail.kicelo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello FreeBSD doc team, Are you aware that fips has been supporting FAT32 partitions for quite a few years already ? The docs included in FreeBSD CDROM #1 (INSTALL.HTM, INSTALL.TXT ) incorrectly state the opposite. Best regards and keep the good work. Manuel Garcia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 13: 0:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A45B37B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27L06H87237; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA4437B402 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DE1BD87 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20763 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:55:51 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27Kx4646723; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:59:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 12:59:03 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35646 >Category: docs >Synopsis: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 13:00:05 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The cp(1) program has a feature that should be documented in a "Bugs" section. (Or can there be a "Warnings" section?) The "cp" program removes "holes" from "sparse" files while copying, resulting in a non-exact copy, in some sense. ================ >How-To-Repeat: $ df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2f 4530961 1477900 2690585 35% /u $ dd if=/dev/zero of=zeros-sparse oseek=1000 count=2 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes transferred in 0.000205 secs (4994148 bytes/sec) $ df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2f 4530961 1477916 2690569 35% /u $ cp zeros-sparse zeros-cp $ df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s2f 4530961 1478428 2690057 35% /u $ l zero* -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 513024 Mar 7 12:42 zeros-cp -rw-r----- 1 root wheel 513024 Mar 7 12:42 zeros-sparse ================ >Fix: Add a "Bugs" section explaining about "sparse" files and "holes" and how "cp" handles them. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 13:20:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED537B41D for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27LK2V93604; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8C937B41A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B32BBD2A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28585 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:15:12 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27LIOH46729; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:18:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 13:18:24 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35647: www; combine query-by-number and multi-field query forms Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35647 >Category: docs >Synopsis: www; combine query-by-number and multi-field query forms >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 13:20:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: Combine these two forms: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?query It's time wasting (and frustrating) to "need" to click around (usually through another page) to switch between query-by-number and query by other keys. A side benefit would be: one less web page to maintain. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Put the first form's "PR ID Number" field on the second form. Put a filesystem link so both URLS will go to the same form. Change the part of http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats where both are linked to. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 13:23: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9723B37B402; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27LK9c93631; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:20:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:20:09 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203072120.g27LK9c93631@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org, mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35098: NFS chapter simultaneously sucks and blows Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: NFS chapter simultaneously sucks and blows State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mwlucas State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 7 13:19:08 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! Changes may take up to 24 hours to appear on www.FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35098 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 13:52:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B35A37B427 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g27HGwr30601; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:16:58 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:16:57 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Andrew McKay , FreeBSD Doc List , pirat Subject: Re: fdp-primer: syntax error in exmaple 3.6 & exmaple 3.7 ? Message-ID: <20020307171657.O337@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20020306101125.J83038-100000@fluoxetine.lan> <3C8638BD.9030202@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/YnR2r17TIEndSCI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3C8638BD.9030202@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:41:49AM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --/YnR2r17TIEndSCI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 10:41:49AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > In other doc-related news, I have never setup those sgml variables, just= =20 > to see what would happen... With that in mind, I have had absolutly NO= =20 > problem building or working with the doc system. To be more honest, I=20 > even forgot they were around... I'll look into that today hehe Enjoy If you use the .mk files, and don't use an editor that can do validation then there's really no need to set them -- the .mk files make sure that the correct values are passed to all the programs in the build chain. It's only when you start running things by hand, or using tools like Emacs, that they become necessary. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ (__) FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ \\\'',) \/ \= ^ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- .\._/= _) --/YnR2r17TIEndSCI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyHoIkACgkQk6gHZCw343UidwCaAx19F4/vc3VbZjFgsODIqRno IPgAniv3aK/DPe8RyKVQsZ9GsNHRkKq6 =r2a8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/YnR2r17TIEndSCI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 14: 0:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A80A37B41B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27M09W99041; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:00:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512AA37B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27LxXP98894; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:59:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200203072159.g27LxXP98894@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 13:59:33 -0800 (PST) From: Johann Frisch To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35649 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 14:00:09 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Johann Frisch >Release: 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The "FILES" section of the mount_smbfs man page reads: "~/.nsmbrc Keeps static parameters for connections and other informa- tion. See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." It's rather unlikey to find examples/dot.nsmbrc in every current directory ;-) In fact I couldn't find dot.nsmbrc anywhere on my system. >How-To-Repeat: man mount_smbfs /^FILES >Fix: Write dot.nsmbrc, place it in /usr/share/examples/smbfs and correct the man page? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 14:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F88737B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27MA1m04661; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D9237B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C009BD2C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:05:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16461 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:05:22 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27M8Zb46782; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 14:08:34 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35650: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35650 >Category: docs >Synopsis: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 14:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: I used http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?query to search for "extraneous" in single-line fields and it didn't find docs/29526 or docs/32462 which have the word in their "Synopsis". ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 14:30:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A2637B41D for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27MU1w09910; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920F337B404 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:26:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E776CBC7E for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24521 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:26:29 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g27MTg546785; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 07 Mar 2002 14:29:41 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35652: bsd.README seriously obsolete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35652 >Category: docs >Synopsis: bsd.README seriously obsolete >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 14:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: From "/usr/share/mk/bsd.README": XXX This document is seriously out of date, it is currenly being revised. But there is no indication of who is revising it and I find no PR for it. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: -- Most of the file's (long-form) descriptions should probably be moved into the files which are described. -- Determine which (long-form) descriptions are missing and add them. -- Add these missing entries to the list of similar entries: bsd.cpu.mk - sets CPU/arch-related variables bsd.docb.mk - handles installing SGML/docbook documents bsd.port.post.mk - building ports [tbd: needs more info] bsd.port.pre.mk - building ports [tbd: needs more info] bsd.sys.mk - common settings used for building FreeBSD sources sys.mk - default rules for all makes >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 14:30:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CAE37B41B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27MU1009901; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from tail.eecs.umich.edu (tail.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.11.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81E337B41B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ecronin@localhost) by tail.eecs.umich.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27MKOf08931; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:20:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ecronin) Message-Id: <200203072220.g27MKOf08931@tail.eecs.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Cronin Reply-To: Eric Cronin To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35651: mount(8) man page contains references to LFS Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35651 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mount(8) man page contains references to LFS >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Mar 07 14:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Eric Cronin >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p1 i386 >Organization: University of Michigan >Environment: System: FreeBSD tail.eecs.umich.edu 4.5-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Mar 3 05:46:04 EST 2002 root@octopus.rabidmonkey.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MP_PII i386 >Description: /usr/share/man/man8/mount.8 contains references to LFS (BSD 4.4's log-structured filesystem) at several points, even though LFS is no longer a part of FreeBSD. >How-To-Repeat: 'man 8 mount', look for references to lfs being a native filesystem >Fix: *** /usr/src/sbin/mount/mount.8.orig Thu Mar 7 17:15:16 2002 --- /usr/src/sbin/mount/mount.8 Thu Mar 7 17:16:33 2002 *************** *** 41,54 **** .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm .Op Fl adfpruvw ! .Op Fl t Ar ufs | lfs | external_type .Nm .Op Fl dfpruvw .Ar special | node .Nm .Op Fl dfpruvw .Op Fl o Ar options ! .Op Fl t Ar ufs | lfs | external_type .Ar special node .Sh DESCRIPTION The --- 41,54 ---- .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm .Op Fl adfpruvw ! .Op Fl t Ar ufs | external_type .Nm .Op Fl dfpruvw .Ar special | node .Nm .Op Fl dfpruvw .Op Fl o Ar options ! .Op Fl t Ar ufs | external_type .Ar special node .Sh DESCRIPTION The *************** *** 257,263 **** argument to the .Fl o option. ! .It Fl t Ar "ufs \\*(Ba lfs \\*(Ba external type" The argument following the .Fl t is used to indicate the file system type. --- 257,263 ---- argument to the .Fl o option. ! .It Fl t Ar "ufs \\*(Ba external type" The argument following the .Fl t is used to indicate the file system type. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 15:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DB237B400 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27No3Y32169; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203072350.g27No3Y32169@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Bill Fenner Subject: Re: docs/35650: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs Reply-To: Bill Fenner Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35650; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Bill Fenner To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35650: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:49:57 -0800 They're also closed. Try checking the "closed reports too" box. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 15:52:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B1837B404; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27NjHS31100; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203072345.g27NjHS31100@freefall.freebsd.org> To: swear@blarg.net, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35650: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: www; query-pr-summary.cgi doesn't find "extraneous" PRs State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 7 15:43:50 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: That's because the two PRs you mentioned are closed already. You have to check 'Closed reports too' to see them :-) Thanks for your efforts to help, though. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35650 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 16: 2:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD4837B405; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g27NtYH33112; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:55:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:55:34 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203072355.g27NtYH33112@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35420: Fix some errors in my chroot'ing named section of the Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix some errors in my chroot'ing named section of the Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 7 15:55:18 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35420 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 16:10: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE28637B41A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g280A1P38626; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:10:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203080010.g280A1P38626@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35646; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:07:24 +0200 (EET) Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > The cp(1) program has a feature that should be documented in a "Bugs" > section. (Or can there be a "Warnings" section?) Are you sure this should be documented in the manual page of cp(1) ? Any program that copies data and doesn't take special care of 'holes' will show similar behavior. Should we modify their manual pages too? [ See what dd(1) does instead of cp(1) below. ] hades:~> cd /tmp hades:/tmp> df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 194548 65916 113069 37% / hades:/tmp> dd if=/dev/zero of=zeros-sparse oseek=1000 count=2 2+0 records in 2+0 records out 1024 bytes transferred in 0.000685 secs (1494682 bytes/sec) hades:/tmp> df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 194548 65932 113053 37% / hades:/tmp> dd if=zeros-sparse of=zeros-dd 1002+0 records in 1002+0 records out 513024 bytes transferred in 0.286582 secs (1790147 bytes/sec) ^^^ Many blocks copied. hades:/tmp> df . Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 194548 66444 112541 37% / hades:/tmp> ls -l zeros-* -rw-r--r-- 1 charon wheel - 513024 Mar 8 02:03 zeros-dd -rw-r--r-- 1 charon wheel - 513024 Mar 8 02:03 zeros-sparse Note that I'm not opposing the change. I'm only asking for ideas about all the possible programs that will behave exactly like cp(1) and dd(1) do, when they find files with 'holes'. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 16:42:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9837B404; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g280bil43099; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 16:37:44 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203080037.g280bil43099@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris+freebsd@chrullrich.de, keramida@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/34782: pw(8) contains conflicting explanations for -L Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: pw(8) contains conflicting explanations for -L State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: keramida State-Changed-When: Thu Mar 7 16:36:47 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed to -CURRENT. I'll MFC it to STABLE soon. Thank you for spotting this :) http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=34782 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 19:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262D237B405 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g283o3p93086; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 19:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203080350.g283o3p93086@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35646; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Date: 07 Mar 2002 19:43:33 -0800 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > Are you sure this should be documented in the manual page of cp(1) ? > Any program that copies data and doesn't take special care of 'holes' will > show similar behavior. Should we modify their manual pages too? > > [ See what dd(1) does instead of cp(1) below. ] [snip...] > Note that I'm not opposing the change. I'm only asking for ideas about all the > possible programs that will behave exactly like cp(1) and dd(1) do, when they > find files with 'holes'. You're clever to think of such things. If the OS could always hide the fact that it was compressing or uncompressing files like this, then it would never need mentioning outside the filesytem documenation. But it doesn't. A user of "cp" or "dd" should be able to predict, based on his reading of the man page or maybe some handbook, whether his use of the command will over-fill his filesystem. Currently, he must resort to trail and error, a method dear to many UNIX users, but not to many others. (Of course, many will not read about it until being bitten.) Such knowledge probably should also be available to users of ">", "|", "cat", and probably some others. Probably less important for "vi", "sed", "awk", because few have expectations as to the size of their outputs. It's going to go undocumented in many cases, but I think "cp" and "dd" are special cases as one often cares much about their outputs. One expects a copy to be identical to the original for all purposes, not just most purposes. I've seen the issue discussed before and it would have been nice to be able to point to documentation on it. But then, I didn't provide such documentation... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 20: 0:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0562737B417 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:00:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2840A394460; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:00:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203080400.g2840A394460@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35646; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35646: cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 05:59:18 +0200 (EET) Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas writes: > > > Are you sure this should be documented in the manual page of cp(1) ? > > Any program that copies data and doesn't take special care of 'holes' will > > show similar behavior. Should we modify their manual pages too? > > > > [ See what dd(1) does instead of cp(1) below. ] > [snip...] > > Note that I'm not opposing the change. I'm only asking for ideas about all the > > possible programs that will behave exactly like cp(1) and dd(1) do, when they > > find files with 'holes'. > > You're clever to think of such things. If the OS could always hide the > fact that it was compressing or uncompressing files like this, then it > would never need mentioning outside the filesytem documenation. But it > doesn't. A user of "cp" or "dd" should be able to predict, based on his > reading of the man page or maybe some handbook, whether his use of the > command will over-fill his filesystem. Currently, he must resort to > trail and error, a method dear to many UNIX users, but not to many > others. (Of course, many will not read about it until being bitten.) A more general solution is needed. This is what I was trying to point out. Many commands will do strange things with files that have holes. A few that I could think off the top of my head were: cat file1 > file2 cat < file1 > file2 cp file1 file2 awk scripts sed scripts perl filters Practically, any command that does not have knowledge of the underlying filesystem data-structures will copy the 'wrong' amount of data. AFAIK, only dump(8) and restore(8) handle files with holes correctly; but these commands work directly on the filesystem device. I'll have to think about this a bit more. I'll get back to you soon. Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Mar 7 23:22:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869C237B404; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g287DlR76314; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:13:47 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203080713.g287DlR76314@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cjc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35648: rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both files Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both files Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: cjc Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Mar 7 23:12:18 PST 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Category changed to docs after analysis and agreement from submitter. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35648 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 0:30: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF0337B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g288U2f92888; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203080830.g288U2f92888@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ceri Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Reply-To: Ceri Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ceri To: Johann Frisch Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:29:13 +0000 On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Johann Frisch wrote: I have /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/dot.nsmbrc on my system. It should probably get installed to /usr/share/examples though. Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 2:56:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ghostwheel.kithven.net (12-255-10-181.client.attbi.com [12.255.10.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F12637B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 33699 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2002 10:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO firestorm.kithven.net) (192.168.1.200) by 12-255-10-181.client.attbi.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 10:58:25 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020308034555.00a79778@mail.kithven.net> X-Sender: scivitri@kithven.net@mail.kithven.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 03:56:36 -0700 To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Scivitri Scarzam Subject: Linux 'emulation' documentation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've been trying to install/get working Linux Binary Compatibility on my FreeBSD machine. To this end, I've been following the instructions in the neighborhood of http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html and have come across rather an interesting problem. I am, of course, doing this because I have a particular Linux binary I need to run, and I'm following the documentation because, well, my Unix/BSD skills aren't what I'd consider my ideal. And, as I rather expected, once I got everything installed my app complained about a missing shared library. So, I start reading what to do when this occurs, and am struck by a rather amusing problem in your documentation. See, it assumes I have access to a Linux box, to get these shared libraries off of. And, while trying to think who I know who might possibly be running a Linux box I could get these files from, I gradually start to wonder if everyone else has both a Linux and FreeBSD box, and just likes to run their Linux programs on their BSD machine to cause themselves needless grief. Because that's about the only reason I could see for the documentation seeming to not acknowledge any other option. Anyway, that's it for my middle of the night ramblings. I'll go try and find a Linux machine now. 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------=_NextPart_1287_760585177231400172-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 4:23:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C70F37B416 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 04:23:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28CN9R63613; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:23:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:23:09 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Scivitri Scarzam Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux 'emulation' documentation Message-ID: <20020308072309.A63542@blackhelicopters.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020308034555.00a79778@mail.kithven.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020308034555.00a79778@mail.kithven.net>; from scivitri@kithven.net on Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 03:56:36AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Could you tell us exactly where you read this? We'd like to fix it. If your FreeBSD box has a live Internet connection, you can just do (as root) cd /usr/ports/emulate/linux_base62 make all install clean It will go grab these libraries for you. On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 03:56:36AM -0700, Scivitri Scarzam wrote: > Hello, > > I've been trying to install/get working Linux Binary Compatibility on my > FreeBSD machine. To this end, I've been following the instructions in the > neighborhood of > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu.html and > have come across rather an interesting problem. I am, of course, doing > this because I have a particular Linux binary I need to run, and I'm > following the documentation because, well, my Unix/BSD skills aren't what > I'd consider my ideal. And, as I rather expected, once I got everything > installed my app complained about a missing shared library. > > So, I start reading what to do when this occurs, and am struck by a rather > amusing problem in your documentation. See, it assumes I have access to a > Linux box, to get these shared libraries off of. And, while trying to > think who I know who might possibly be running a Linux box I could get > these files from, I gradually start to wonder if everyone else has both a > Linux and FreeBSD box, and just likes to run their Linux programs on their > BSD machine to cause themselves needless grief. Because that's about the > only reason I could see for the documentation seeming to not acknowledge > any other option. > > Anyway, that's it for my middle of the night ramblings. I'll go try and > find a Linux machine now. But I thought I ought to point out this bit of > oddness, in passing. :) > > - Scivitri > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 6:44:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F32C37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 06:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28Eicd65027 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:44:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:44:38 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: more junior -doc hacker tasks Message-ID: <20020308094438.A64993@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I contacted assorted FreeBSD developers and gathered a small list of items that need migrating from committers' personal web pages into the main FreeBSD documentation. These items have not been assigned elsewhere, so we shouldn't have a problem like last time. In each case, the author wants this information integrated into the main tree. I recommend that you do not assimilate these blindly. Go over them carefully, and apply grammar, cleanup, and DocProj standards. Item #1 http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/ipxen.html IPX information -- this is small, and easy. Recommend integration into the Handbook, and pointers from the FAQ. Item #2 http://people.freebsd.org/~hm/i4b-1001/index.html Contains the handbook for setting up ISDN service under FreeBSD (i4b). This is a big beast, and rates at least its own article. Check existing documentation to be sure that it isn't there already. I recommend that a few people cooperate to get this done. Again, please publically discuss who is doing what. /me is not the DocProj Assignment Keeper... while I'm interested in people's progress, I just don't have the time... ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 7:12:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D2437B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc4-card4-0-cust162.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([80.4.14.162] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=mailnull) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16jM2W-0002it-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:12:12 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16jM2F-000BgH-00; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:11:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:11:55 +0000 From: Ceri To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more junior -doc hacker tasks Message-ID: <20020308151155.GB44750@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Michael Lucas , doc@freebsd.org References: <20020308094438.A64993@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020308094438.A64993@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-message-flag: If you can read this, get a better mail client Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 09:44:38AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > > Item #1 > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/ipxen.html > > IPX information -- this is small, and easy. Recommend integration > into the Handbook, and pointers from the FAQ. Ooh ooh! Me, me! /* Ceri: I know IPX! Michael : Show me. */ Ceri -- keep a mild groove on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 7:15:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21107.mail.yahoo.com (web21107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C0A337B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:15:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020308151516.36018.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 07:15:16 PST Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:15:16 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: more junior -doc hacker tasks To: Ceri , Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020308151155.GB44750@submonkey.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Ceri wrote: > Ooh ooh! Me, me! > > /* > Ceri: I know IPX! > Michael : Show me. > */ Do you think thats air you are breathing (never mind)? Just a Matrix fan! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 7:15:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD637B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g28FHZs00199; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:17:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C88D84F.5000707@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:27:11 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Cc: Michael Lucas , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more junior -doc hacker tasks References: <20020308094438.A64993@blackhelicopters.org> <20020308151155.GB44750@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 09:44:38AM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: > >>Item #1 >> >>http://people.freebsd.org/~bp/ipxen.html >> >>IPX information -- this is small, and easy. Recommend integration >>into the Handbook, and pointers from the FAQ. >> > > Ooh ooh! Me, me! > > /* > Ceri: I know IPX! > Michael : Show me. > */ > > Ceri > > Go for it, this one can be yours!! Have fun with it... PS, nice little matrix thing there hehe. -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 7:30:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2801D37B416 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28FU3M07339; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA0E37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hiten@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28FUfd00343; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hiten) Message-Id: <200203081530.g28FUfd00343@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: Hiten Pandya To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35677: [PATCH] - Add freebsd-bugbusters@ to the Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35677 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] - Add freebsd-bugbusters@ to the Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 07:30:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD pittgoth.com 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #2: Thu Feb 21 23:00:49 EST 2002 root@pittgoth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PITTGOTH i386 >Description: The following patch, will add the newly added freebsd-bugbusters mailing list to the Handbook (E-Resources section). Also it will correct some grammar and formality of the SPARC list description. The current is the following: List: freebsd-sparc Description: Porting FreeBSD to Sparc systems UPDATED one: List: freebsd-sparc Description: Porting FreeBSD to SPARC based systems >How-To-Repeat: Go to: http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en/handbook/eresources.html >Fix: The patch provided below, should be applied to: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2002/03/08 15:08:08 1.1 +++ chapter.sgml 2002/03/08 15:14:54 @@ -86,7 +86,12 @@ freebsd-bugs Bug reports - + + + freebsd-bugbusters + The Bug Busting Project (was: buggers@ofug.org) + + freebsd-chat Non-technical items related to the FreeBSD @@ -363,7 +368,7 @@ freebsd-sparc - Porting FreeBSD to Sparc systems + Porting FreeBSD to SPARC based systems >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 7:40:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990E537B429 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28Fe3Q09403; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203081540.g28Fe3Q09403@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Michael Lucas Subject: Re: docs/35677: [PATCH] - Add freebsd-bugbusters@ to the Handbook Reply-To: Michael Lucas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35677; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Michael Lucas To: Hiten Pandya Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35677: [PATCH] - Add freebsd-bugbusters@ to the Handbook Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:38:00 -0500 Hiten, Good try, and good info. However... > --- chapter.sgml 2002/03/08 15:08:08 1.1 > +++ chapter.sgml 2002/03/08 15:14:54 > @@ -86,7 +86,12 @@ > freebsd-bugs > Bug reports > > - > + > + You have removed a whitespace, and added some other whitespace. This is definitely a gratuitous whitespace change. Please resubmit, thanks! If you prefer, I could fix this myself. At that point, however, I will assume that you're not interested in learning to do it correctly, and mentally classify you as "problem reporter" instead of "problem fixer." I don't think that's what you want. ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 8:10: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8016C37B41A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28GA1g18855; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E35437B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from robert@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28G7m572647; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:07:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <200203081607.g28G7m572647@fledge.watson.org> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:07:48 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson Reply-To: Robert Watson To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35678: docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with spaces Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35678 >Category: docs >Synopsis: docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with spaces >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 08:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Watson >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: NAI Labs, FreeBSD Project >Environment: System: FreeBSD sproing.gw.tislabs.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Jan 15 11:18:08 EST 2002 rwatson@sproing.gw.tislabs.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPROING i386 docproj-1.9 The "meta-port" for the FreeBSD Documentation Project >Description: When building a web page using sgml, if any segment of the file system path for the working directory contains a space or other irregular character, things get broken. >How-To-Repeat: sproing:~/Operating Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp> make /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /home/rwatson/Operating Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:E: cannot find "Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp"; tried "Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp", "/home/rwatson/Operating/Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp" *** Error code 1 Stop in /home/rwatson/Operating Systems/FreeBSD/commit/www/en/smp. Note that it used "Systems/FreeBSD...." indicating that a command line broke the path into two seperate strings. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 8:20:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A602A37B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28GK2C20390; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203081620.g28GK2C20390@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Ceri Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, Boris Popov Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:17:59 +0200 On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:30:02AM -0800, Ceri wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. >=20 > From: Ceri > To: Johann Frisch > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc = for details." > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:29:13 +0000 >=20 > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:59:33PM -0800, Johann Frisch wrote: > =20 > I have /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/dot.nsmbrc on my system. > It should probably get installed to /usr/share/examples though. OK, how about the following patch? However, this includes a patch to src/contrib/smbfs/, which is not something we should really be doing. This message is CC'd to Boris Popov, the author of the FreeBSD smbfs code; Boris, could you look at this PR and see if you like the proposed change to the mount_smbfs.8 manual page? I know that this will probably require a patch to the port, since it either does not install this sample file, or at least does not install it under /usr/share/examples/ However, the original poster's claim that ./examples/dot.nsmbrc is not quite what the manual page should mention sounds about right for me :) G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I've heard that this sentence is a rumor. Index: src/contrib/smbfs/mount_smbfs/mount_smbfs.8 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/smbfs/mount_smbfs/mount_smbfs.8,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.2 diff -u -r1.1.1.2 mount_smbfs.8 --- src/contrib/smbfs/mount_smbfs/mount_smbfs.8 20 Dec 2001 16:16:25 -0000 = 1.1.1.2 +++ src/contrib/smbfs/mount_smbfs/mount_smbfs.8 8 Mar 2002 11:14:38 -0000 @@ -125,7 +125,7 @@ .It Pa ~/.nsmbrc Keeps static parameters for connections and other information. See -.Pa ./examples/dot.nsmbrc +.Pa /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc for details. .El .Sh EXAMPLES Index: src/share/examples/smbfs/Makefile =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/examples/smbfs/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- src/share/examples/smbfs/Makefile 14 Dec 2001 12:17:03 -0000 1.1 +++ src/share/examples/smbfs/Makefile 8 Mar 2002 11:14:38 -0000 @@ -1,5 +1,15 @@ # $FreeBSD$ =20 +NOOBJ=3D noobj +BINDIR=3D /usr/share/examples + +DISTFILES=3D dot.nsmbrc + +beforeinstall: + cd ${.CURDIR}/../../../contrib/smbfs/examples; \ + ${INSTALL} -o ${SHAREOWN} -g ${SHAREGRP} -m ${SHAREMODE} \ + ${DISTFILES} ${DESTDIR}${BINDIR}/smbfs + SUBDIR=3D print =20 -.include +.include To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 8:38:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A80C37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28GcMV66142; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:38:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:38:21 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: "Jason R. McVetta" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: error in listing of CD vendors Message-ID: <20020308113821.A66119@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020220185002.A3995@larkin.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020220185002.A3995@larkin.dyndns.org>; from mcvetta.3@osu.edu on Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:50:02PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fixed, thanks. Changes may take up to 24 hours to be visible on the Web site. On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:50:02PM -0500, Jason R. McVetta wrote: > Sirs, > > There is an error in the handbook Appendix A.1.1 ("Retail Boxed > Products"): Microcenter no longer carries FreeBSD CDs. I have > confirmed this both by asking a salesman at the local store, and by > performing a search on their website. > > Regards, > > J > > -- > Jason R. McVetta Larkin.DynDNS.org/~jmcvetta > "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who has never > learned to walk." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 10: 3:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from issv0170.isis.de (issv0170.isis.de [195.158.131.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFFF537B428 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29453 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Mar 2002 18:03:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO diana) ([195.158.147.44]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.isis.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2002 18:03:44 -0000 Received: from diana (127.0.0.1) by diana (172.25.25.7) with esmtp ; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 19:03:00 +0100 From: To: Ceri Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:03:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C890AE4.28195.1057E64@ww.shacknet.nu> In-reply-to: <20020308082913.GB2166@submonkey.net> References: <200203072159.g27LxXP98894@freefall.freebsd.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Lines: 8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8 Mar 2002 at 8:29, Ceri wrote: > I have /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/dot.nsmbrc on my system. > It should probably get installed to /usr/share/examples though. You are right, I tried to find it on a system where /usr/src is usually mounted via NFS but wasn't. So could somebody move this file to /usr/share/examples/smbfs and update the man page? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 10:17:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A68B37B400; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a141.otenet.gr [212.205.215.141]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28IHcft026609; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:17:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g28IHbU4000792; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:17:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g28I7Wsd000501; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:07:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:07:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Murray Stokely Cc: re@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Be nice to -CURRENT ( "1 week Feature Slush" ) Message-ID: <20020308180731.GA336@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Murray Stokely wrote: > To this end, we would like to request that commits for the next 7 > days to HEAD be made with special care. -CURRENT is in pretty good > shape right now, so we're not requiring approval for all commits. I had been making changes to manpages, since a couple of days ago, before seeing the HEADS UP message. As far as documentation is concerned, should I take the above to mean "document and fix all you want, but be *EXTRA* careful to avoid all sorts of breakage of the documentation" ? Oh, and thank you in all the effort re@ is putting to make this preview. It's been a while since people have started showing interest for the "new and exciting features" of -CURRENT, and this is something that will certainly become very useful :-) Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 11:31:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D71137B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28JVL563602 for freebsd-doc; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203081931.g28JVL563602@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 889152850 5925 {incr n -1 ; incr feedback} Bogus: 927663000 11889.old {incr open} ./cut.tcl 365 __ __365 ./cut.tcl 30 __ __30 ./cut.tcl 7 __ __7 ./cut.tcl 1 __ __1 /usr/local/bin/gnuplot g ===> platforms ===> releases ===> releases/1.1 ===> releases/1.1.5 ===> releases/2.0 ===> releases/2.0.5R ===> releases/2.1R ===> releases/2.1.5R ===> releases/2.1.6R ===> releases/2.1.7R ===> releases/2.2R ===> releases/2.2.1R ===> releases/2.2.2R ===> releases/2.2.5R ===> releases/2.2.6R ===> releases/2.2.7R ===> releases/2.2.8R ===> releases/3.0R ===> releases/3.1R ===> releases/3.2R ===> releases/3.3R ===> releases/3.4R ===> releases/3.5R ===> releases/4.0R ===> releases/4.1R ===> releases/4.1.1R ===> releases/4.2R ===> releases/4.3R ===> releases/4.4R ===> releases/4.5R ===> releases/4.6R ===> releases/5.0R ===> releng ===> smp /usr/bin/sed -e 's///' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en/smp > index.html || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:626:7:E: general entity "a.phk" not defined and no default entity *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/smp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 522.40 real 218.80 user 9.26 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 11:50:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21110.mail.yahoo.com (web21110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B97E937B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:50:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020308195031.6340.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.4] by web21110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:50:31 PST Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:50:31 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200203081931.g28JVL563602@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- www@FreeBSD.org wrote: > ===> smp > /usr/bin/sed -e 's/ $">//' index.sgml | /usr/bin/env > SGML_CATALOG_FILES= /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm -d -c > /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog -D /c/www/build/www/en/smp > index.html > || (/bin/rm -f index.html && false) > /usr/local/bin/sgmlnorm:0:626:7:E: general entity "a.phk" not defined > and no default entity > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/smp. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. > 522.40 real 218.80 user 9.26 sys Someone forgot: %authors to put into www/en/includes.sgml for &a.phk; __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 11:56:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C37D37B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28JuTn68223 for doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:56:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:56:29 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: patch for opinions Message-ID: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Folks, I was reading the "contributing" article, and my literary sensibilities were completely offended. This section is guilty of overuse of exclamation ponits and the word "also", as well as miscellaneous inefficiencies in writing. Attached please find a patch for the first section of articles/contributing. (Not closely checked for whitespace gratuitousness, mind you.) I see a potential here to open a big can o'worms, worms called "wasted effort," "conflict of writing styles," and "hurt feelings because Michael's picking on someone's writing skills when we should be happy to just have docs at all, damn it!". I'm perfectly happy to hear that this is a non-issue, mind you, but I can see this sort of thing either hurting feelings or setting a precedent the Project doesn't want set. Thoughts? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="contributing.patch" Index: article.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/article.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.474 diff -c -r1.474 article.sgml *** article.sgml 18 Feb 2002 03:06:39 -0000 1.474 --- article.sgml 8 Mar 2002 19:46:28 -0000 *************** *** 32,66 **** contributing ! So you want to contribute something to FreeBSD? That is great! We can ! always use the help, and FreeBSD is one of those systems that ! relies on the contributions of its user base in order to survive. Your contributions are not only appreciated, they are vital ! to FreeBSD's continued growth! ! Contrary to what some people might also have you believe, you do not need to be a hot-shot programmer or a close personal friend of the FreeBSD ! core team in order to have your contributions accepted. The FreeBSD ! Project's development is done by a large and growing number of ! international contributors whose ages and areas of technical expertise ! vary greatly, and there is always more work to be done than there are ! people available to do it. Since the FreeBSD project is responsible for an entire operating ! system environment (and its installation) rather than just a kernel or a few scattered utilities, our TODO list also spans a very wide range of tasks, from documentation, beta testing and ! presentation to highly specialized types of kernel development. No matter what your skill level, there is almost certainly something you can do to ! help the project! Commercial entities engaged in FreeBSD-related enterprises are also ! encouraged to contact us. Need a special extension to make your product work? You will find us receptive to your requests, given that they are not ! too outlandish. Working on a value-added product? Please let us know! We may be able to work cooperatively on some aspect of it. The free software world is challenging a lot of existing assumptions about how software is ! developed, sold, and maintained throughout its life cycle, and we urge you to at least give it a second look. --- 32,66 ---- contributing ! So you want to contribute to FreeBSD? That is great! ! FreeBSD ! relies on the contributions of its user base to survive. Your contributions are not only appreciated, they are vital ! to FreeBSD's continued growth. ! Contrary to what some people might have you believe, you do not need to be a hot-shot programmer or a close personal friend of the FreeBSD ! core team to have your contributions accepted. ! A large and growing number of ! international contributors, of greatly varying ages and areas of technical expertise, develop FreeBSD. ! There is always more work to be done than there are ! people available to do it, and more help is always appreciated. Since the FreeBSD project is responsible for an entire operating ! system environment rather than just a kernel or a few scattered utilities, our TODO list also spans a very wide range of tasks, from documentation, beta testing and ! presentation to the system installer and highly specialized types of kernel development. No matter what your skill level, there is almost certainly something you can do to ! help the project. Commercial entities engaged in FreeBSD-related enterprises are also ! encouraged to contact us. Do you need a special extension to make your product work? You will find us receptive to your requests, given that they are not ! too outlandish. Are you working on a value-added product? Please let us know! We may be able to work cooperatively on some aspect of it. The free software world is challenging a lot of existing assumptions about how software is ! developed, sold, and maintained, and we urge you to at least give it a second look. --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:13:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1E137B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020308201303.JRQP2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:13:03 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KD3H09784; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203082013.g28KD3H09784@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20020308195031.6340.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020308195031.6340.qmail@web21110.mail.yahoo.com> Comments: In-reply-to Hiten Pandya message dated "Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:50:31 -0800." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:13:03 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Hiten Pandya wrote: > Someone forgot: > > %authors > > to put into www/en/includes.sgml for &a.phk; Fixed. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:23: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E846437B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g28KOqv00526; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:24:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C892055.2090106@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:34:29 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: patch for opinions References: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lucas wrote: > > Folks, > > I was reading the "contributing" article, and my literary > sensibilities were completely offended. This section is guilty of > overuse of exclamation ponits and the word "also", as well as > miscellaneous inefficiencies in writing. Attached please find a patch > for the first section of articles/contributing. (Not closely checked > for whitespace gratuitousness, mind you.) > > I see a potential here to open a big can o'worms, worms called "wasted > effort," "conflict of writing styles," and "hurt feelings because > Michael's picking on someone's writing skills when we should be happy > to just have docs at all, damn it!". > > I'm perfectly happy to hear that this is a non-issue, mind you, but I > can see this sort of thing either hurting feelings or setting a > precedent the Project doesn't want set. Thoughts? > > ==ml > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Index: article.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/article.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.474 > diff -c -r1.474 article.sgml > *** article.sgml 18 Feb 2002 03:06:39 -0000 1.474 > --- article.sgml 8 Mar 2002 19:46:28 -0000 > *************** > *** 32,66 **** > > > contributing > ! So you want to contribute something to FreeBSD? That is great! We can > ! always use the help, and FreeBSD is one of those systems that > ! relies on the contributions of its user base in order > to survive. Your contributions are not only appreciated, they are vital > ! to FreeBSD's continued growth! > > ! Contrary to what some people might also have you believe, you do not > need to be a hot-shot programmer or a close personal friend of the FreeBSD > ! core team in order to have your contributions accepted. The FreeBSD > ! Project's development is done by a large and growing number of > ! international contributors whose ages and areas of technical expertise > ! vary greatly, and there is always more work to be done than there are > ! people available to do it. > > Since the FreeBSD project is responsible for an entire operating > ! system environment (and its installation) rather than just a kernel or a > few scattered utilities, our TODO list also spans a > very wide range of tasks, from documentation, beta testing and > ! presentation to highly specialized types of kernel development. No matter > what your skill level, there is almost certainly something you can do to > ! help the project! > > Commercial entities engaged in FreeBSD-related enterprises are also > ! encouraged to contact us. Need a special extension to make your product > work? You will find us receptive to your requests, given that they are not > ! too outlandish. Working on a value-added product? Please let us know! We > may be able to work cooperatively on some aspect of it. The free software > world is challenging a lot of existing assumptions about how software is > ! developed, sold, and maintained throughout its life cycle, and we urge you > to at least give it a second look. > > > --- 32,66 ---- > > > contributing > ! So you want to contribute to FreeBSD? That is great! > ! FreeBSD > ! relies on the contributions of its user base > to survive. Your contributions are not only appreciated, they are vital > ! to FreeBSD's continued growth. s/they/but/ ? "appreciated, but are" "appreciated, but are" I think the later sounds better. If anything else "but are also vital" doesn't sound bad either. Your patch though ;) > > ! Contrary to what some people might have you believe, you do not > need to be a hot-shot programmer or a close personal friend of the FreeBSD > ! core team to have your contributions accepted. > ! A large and growing number of > ! international contributors, of greatly varying ages and areas of technical expertise, develop FreeBSD. > ! There is always more work to be done than there are > ! people available to do it, and more help is always appreciated. might have you believe, you do not / people may say, you do not I just did not like the use of two "you"'s in there... anyone else? > > Since the FreeBSD project is responsible for an entire operating > ! system environment rather than just a kernel or a > few scattered utilities, our TODO list also spans a > very wide range of tasks, from documentation, beta testing and > ! presentation to the system installer and highly specialized types of kernel development. No matter > what your skill level, there is almost certainly something you can do to > ! help the project. > > Commercial entities engaged in FreeBSD-related enterprises are also > ! encouraged to contact us. Do you need a special extension to make your product > work? You will find us receptive to your requests, given that they are not > ! too outlandish. Are you working on a value-added product? Please let us know! We > may be able to work cooperatively on some aspect of it. The free software > world is challenging a lot of existing assumptions about how software is > ! developed, sold, and maintained, and we urge you > to at least give it a second look. > > > small picks, I know... but they are not "must do" things, and i'll agree either way ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:24:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266337B41B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020308202356.KAZU2626.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:23:56 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KNtK10242; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:23:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200203082023.g28KNtK10242@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: patch for opinions In-reply-to: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Lucas message dated "Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:56:29 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:23:55 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Michael Lucas wrote: > I was reading the "contributing" article, and my literary > sensibilities were completely offended. This section is guilty of > overuse of exclamation ponits and the word "also", as well as > miscellaneous inefficiencies in writing. Attached please find a patch > for the first section of articles/contributing. (Not closely checked > for whitespace gratuitousness, mind you.) In principle, I think that cleanups like this are a Good Thing (TM). I haven't looked real closely at your patch due to the small deluge of 5.0-DP1 email that hit my inbox this morning. As long as you don't flame the original author too badly (:-)), I don't think there'll be a problem. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:30:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766F437B417 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KU2L75434; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082030.g28KU2L75434@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:27:11 -0500 (EST) Below me, I have included a patch for the handbook mirrors chapter. www mirrors are stored elsewhere, and will promptly supply a patch for that also ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes diff -ru handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml --- handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 12:06:07 2002 +++ handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 14:09:39 2002 @@ -2034,6 +2034,7 @@ ports/ukrainian ports/vietnamese doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 +doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 @@ -3339,6 +3340,19 @@ + + + + Romanai + + + + + cvsup.ro.FreeBSD.org (maintainer + razor@ldc.ro) + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:40:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDC037B41D for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KeB777338; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169BC37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from darklogik@localhost) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KXni00640; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:33:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik) Message-Id: <200203082033.g28KXni00640@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:33:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35683: Fix amd info Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35683 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix amd info >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 12:40:05 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Tom Rhodes >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Project >Environment: System: FreeBSD pittgoth.com 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #2: Thu Feb 21 23:00:49 EST 2002 root@pittgoth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PITTGOTH i386 >Description: Now that the NFS section is updated, i'm gonna wack at other parts of the advanced networking chapter ;) I just did not like using daemon 2 times in the same sentance like this... >How-To-Repeat: Read the handbook >Fix: Apply this patch... --- amd1.diff begins here --- diff -ru handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml --- handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Thu Mar 7 18:55:11 2002 +++ handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 13:58:10 2002 @@ -988,13 +988,13 @@ automatic mounter daemon &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) - is a useful daemon that automatically mounts a + automatically mounts a remote filesystem whenever a file or directory within that filesystem is accessed. Filesystems that are inactive for a period of time will also be automatically unmounted by amd. Using amd provides a simple alternative - to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts should be listed in the + to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts are usually listed in the /etc/fstab. amd operates by attaching --- amd1.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 12:40:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1165F37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28KeED77354; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:40:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:40:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082040.g28KeED77354@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:35:23 -0500 (EST) Here I have produced a diff which will add the Romanain mirror. I also cleaned it up a bit, because, well I don't see a ``mirrors'' list on the front page, yet the support page swears thats where the mirrors are listed. Have fun... -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes diff -ru en/support.sgml en.new/support.sgml --- en/support.sgml Sat Feb 23 01:02:26 2002 +++ en.new/support.sgml Fri Mar 8 15:01:30 2002 @@ -145,14 +145,11 @@ href="http://www.de.FreeBSD.org/">www.de.FreeBSD.org for Germany or www.au.FreeBSD.org for - Australia), or select a mirror from the list on the home page. The same naming convention + Australia), or select a mirror from the list below. + The same naming convention is also used for FTP servers.

- -

In addition to the mirrors, several non-English web resources - are available:

- -
    + +
    • Czech
    • Chinese FAQ @@ -182,6 +179,8 @@
    • Spanish, FAQ + +
    • Russian, FAQ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 13: 0:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57A0337B41A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28L02A81600; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F94137B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25649BD21 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:51:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05213 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:51:41 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g28KtDm00868; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 08 Mar 2002 12:55:13 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35684: INSTALL.TXT, .HTM have obsolete FIPS info Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35684 >Category: docs >Synopsis: INSTALL.TXT, .HTM have obsolete FIPS info >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 13:00:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: INSTALL.TXT (and INSTALL.HTM) say: FIPS does NOT currently work with FAT32 or VFAT style partitions as used by newer versions of Windows 95. A recent poster to -doc claims that FIPS has worked with such partitions for years. I'm quite sure I've seen versions on a couple of Linux CDs work on them. And I found a recent report (just an off-hand comment) of it working on FreeBSD in some FreeBSD forum just now. ================ >How-To-Repeat: I don't know; no M$ Windows here. ================ >Fix: In both files, change "FAT32 or VFAT" to "NTFS" and remove " 95". They are in "/usr/src/release/text/i386/". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 13:10:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from multivac.drewish.com (dsl-2226-204-27.aci.net [209.151.204.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935D137B438 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from katherinehouse.com (dsl-2226-204-30.aci.net [209.151.204.30]) by multivac.drewish.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g28LBRu06536 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drewish@katherinehouse.com) Message-ID: <3C8927F1.8080909@katherinehouse.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 13:06:57 -0800 From: andrew morton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: documentation correction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On the Bootstraping Vinum Appendix B: Manual Vinum Bootstrapping http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/manualboot.html Under Point 5: -----BEGIN------ drive YouCrazy device /dev/ad0s1h volume home plex name home.p0 org concat volume home sd name home.p0.s0 drive YouCrazy plex home.p0 len $hl driveoffset $ho volume usr plex name usr.p0 org concat volume usr sd name usr.p0.s0 drive YouCrazy plex usr.p0 len $ul driveoffset $uo Where: * $hl is the length noted above for /home. * $ho is the offset noted above for /home less the smallest offset noted above + 265 blocks. * $ul is the length noted above for /usr. * $uo is the offset noted above for /usr less the smallest offset noted above + 265 blocks. -----END------ It needs to be noted that the $hl and $ul need to be followed by the character 's' to indicate that the size is in blocks. I'm not sure but I think the offsets $ho and $uo also need the trailing s. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14: 0:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91F637B419 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28M02G94436; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19B037B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C9DBD95 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30199 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:58:54 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g28M2QZ00912; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <3ag03ag1l9.03a@localhost.localdomain> Date: 08 Mar 2002 14:02:26 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35686 >Category: docs >Synopsis: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 14:00:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The "warnings" section of the blackhole(4) man page has these two statements: In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used for protection, not the blackhole feature. This mechanism is not a substitute for securing a system. It should be used together with other security mechanisms. The first implies that blackhole shouldn't be used with, say, ipfw, while the second implies that it should. It needs clarification. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5435337B416 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28MA1S99099; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C037B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9AFBD3F for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:08:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01303 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:08:22 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g28MBsd00916; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:11:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 08 Mar 2002 14:11:54 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35687: /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers, man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35687 >Category: docs >Synopsis: /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers, man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 14:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The file is missing a man page. In the mean time, it's missing a comment saying which programs use the file and it's missing a reference to documentation. This information would at least give users a clue what the file is for and whether they need to worry about it's contents. It might prevent some traffic on -questions too. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: (The file comes with a standard 4.5-RELEASE, but I have no idea what it's for other than a guess of "new SMB".) -- Add a comment saying which programs read the file. -- Add a comment regarding documentation and/or man page. -- Add a section-5 man page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:10:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFCA37B419 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28MA1V99108; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BE937B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3315EBD3F for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01939 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:09:57 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g28MDUG00919; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:13:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <466646g12t.646@localhost.localdomain> Date: 08 Mar 2002 14:13:30 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35688: fdisk(8) page extraneous "being", etc. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35688 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fdisk(8) page extraneous "being", etc. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 14:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The man page has several minor problems. See below. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: -- Change: If omitted, the disks 'ad0', and 'da0' are being searched in that order, until one is being found responding. To: If omitted, the disks 'ad0' and 'da0' are searched in that order until one responds. -- Change "program fdisk" to "fdisk program" or "program, fdisk,". -- Change "purposes" to "purposes.". -- Change "designed not to" to "designed to not". -- Change "FreeBSD; and" to "FreeBSD and". -- For -I, change "with one" to "for one". -- Change "setup" to "set up" (it's not used as a noun here). -- Change all "partition" to "slice", except in the sample output. FreeBSD should either use "slice" everywhere or conform to the more common usage, eg, "primary partition" everywhere and stop using "slice". From "Bugs", remove: Throughout this man page, the term 'partition' is used where it should actually be 'slice', in order to conform with the terms used elsewhere. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:20:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EFCE37B41B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28MK1000863; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1DD37B41B for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B0ABD0C for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05785 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:18:55 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g28MMSJ00953; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 08 Mar 2002 14:22:28 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35689: disklabel(8) page has inappropriate brackets in example Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35689 >Category: docs >Synopsis: disklabel(8) page has inappropriate brackets in example >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 14:20:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The disklabel(8) man page has inappropriate brackets in these examples: disklabel [-W] disk disklabel [-N] disk ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Remove the brackets. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:30:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C67A37B41A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28MU2w01930; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082230.g28MU2w01930@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35686; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 17:36:05 -0500 Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > The "warnings" section of the blackhole(4) man page has these two > statements: > > In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used > for protection, not the blackhole feature. > > This mechanism is not a substitute for securing a system. It should > be used together with other security mechanisms. > > The first implies that blackhole shouldn't be used with, say, ipfw, > while the second implies that it should. It needs clarification. > I read over the ``manual page'' &Keramidas.use-manual-page.not-man-page; and I gather this as more a method for port scans. Can this method be used WITH ipfw(8)? If so, then wouldn't it be eaiser to use this feature. I do think you can use it like that, but i'm not sure... paragraph 1 states that setting the value to 2 will drop connections on a closed port... makes me think that ipfw(8) could forward packets and this could be ran along side... But with no experiance with blackhole(4) i'd rather hear another comment... -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:42:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB0B37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8839 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 22:42:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2002 22:42:40 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D2723125; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:42:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:42:39 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Message-ID: <20020308224238.GA954@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <200203082030.g28KU2L75434@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203082030.g28KU2L75434@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 12:30:02 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Tom Rhodes > To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:27:11 -0500 (EST) > > Below me, I have included a patch for the handbook mirrors > chapter. www mirrors are stored elsewhere, and will promptly > supply a patch for that also ;) > > -- > Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes > > > diff -ru handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml > --- handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 12:06:07 2002 > +++ handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 14:09:39 2002 > @@ -2034,6 +2034,7 @@ > ports/ukrainian > ports/vietnamese > doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 > +doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 > doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 > doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 > doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 > @@ -3339,6 +3340,19 @@ > > > > + > + > + > + Romanai ^^^^^^^ I'm sure you mean "Romania" :-) - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:46:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC4337B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g28Mmev00884; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:48:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C89420A.8090407@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 17:58:18 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mij@soupnazi.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania References: <200203082030.g28KU2L75434@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020308224238.GA954@helios.dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Mock wrote: > On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 12:30:02 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. >> >>From: Tom Rhodes >>To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >>Cc: >>Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania >>Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:27:11 -0500 (EST) >> >> Below me, I have included a patch for the handbook mirrors >> chapter. www mirrors are stored elsewhere, and will promptly >> supply a patch for that also ;) >> >> -- >> Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes >> >> >> diff -ru handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml >> --- handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 12:06:07 2002 >> +++ handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 14:09:39 2002 >> @@ -2034,6 +2034,7 @@ >> ports/ukrainian >> ports/vietnamese >> doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 >> +doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 >> doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 >> doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 >> doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 >> @@ -3339,6 +3340,19 @@ >> >> >> >> + >> + >> + >> + Romanai >> > ^^^^^^^ > > I'm sure you mean "Romania" :-) > > - jim > > blah... s/Romanai/Romainia/ Want a new patch? If so when do you want it, and when can you commit it hehehe -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:50:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB71F37B433 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1662 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 22:49:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2002 22:49:44 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88D603136; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:49:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:49:44 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Message-ID: <20020308224944.GB954@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <200203082040.g28KeED77354@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200203082040.g28KeED77354@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 12:40:14 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Tom Rhodes > To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania > Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:35:23 -0500 (EST) > > Here I have produced a diff which will add the Romanain mirror. > I also cleaned it up a bit, because, well I don't see a ``mirrors'' > list on the front page, yet the support page swears thats where > the mirrors are listed. Have fun... > > -- > Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes > > > diff -ru en/support.sgml en.new/support.sgml > --- en/support.sgml Sat Feb 23 01:02:26 2002 > +++ en.new/support.sgml Fri Mar 8 15:01:30 2002 > @@ -145,14 +145,11 @@ > href="http://www.de.FreeBSD.org/">www.de.FreeBSD.org for > Germany or href="http://www.au.FreeBSD.org/">www.au.FreeBSD.org for > - Australia), or select a mirror from the list on the - href="&base;/index.html">home page. The same naming convention > + Australia), or select a mirror from the list below. > + The same naming convention > is also used for FTP servers.

      > - > -

      In addition to the mirrors, several non-English web resources > - are available:

      > - > -
        > + > +
          >
        • Czech > >
        • Chinese FAQ > @@ -182,6 +179,8 @@ > >
        • Spanish, href="es/FAQ/FAQ.html">FAQ > + > +
        • ^^^^ Please take your time and double-check these before submitting them. - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:51:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22B37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30483 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 22:51:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO helios.dub.net) ([216.27.176.75]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2002 22:51:09 -0000 Received: by helios.dub.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F295D3125; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:51:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:51:08 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Message-ID: <20020308225108.GC954@helios.dub.net> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <200203082030.g28KU2L75434@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020308224238.GA954@helios.dub.net> <3C89420A.8090407@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3C89420A.8090407@pittgoth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 17:58:18 -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Jim Mock wrote: > >On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 12:30:02 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > >>The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. > >> > >>From: Tom Rhodes > >>To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org > >>Cc: > >>Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania > >>Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:27:11 -0500 (EST) > >> > >>Below me, I have included a patch for the handbook mirrors > >>chapter. www mirrors are stored elsewhere, and will promptly > >>supply a patch for that also ;) > >> > >>-- > >>Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes > >> > >> > >>diff -ru handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml > >>--- handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 12:06:07 2002 > >>+++ handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 14:09:39 2002 > >>@@ -2034,6 +2034,7 @@ > >> ports/ukrainian > >> ports/vietnamese > >> doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 > >>+doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 > >> doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 > >> doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 > >> doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 > >>@@ -3339,6 +3340,19 @@ > >> > >> > >> > >>+ > >>+ > >>+ > >>+ Romanai > >> > > ^^^^^^^ > > > >I'm sure you mean "Romania" :-) > > > > blah... s/Romanai/Romainia/ *bzzt* Say it with me. R-O-M-A-N-I-A ;-) - jim -- jim mock http://soupnazi.org/ | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 14:52: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7C937B417 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g28Mrrv00918; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:53:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C894342.8020009@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 18:03:30 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mij@soupnazi.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania References: <200203082040.g28KeED77354@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020308224944.GB954@helios.dub.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Mock wrote: > On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 at 12:40:14 -0800, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. >> >>From: Tom Rhodes >>To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org >>Cc: >>Subject: Re: docs/35530 New cvsup and www mirror in Romania >>Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:35:23 -0500 (EST) >> >> Here I have produced a diff which will add the Romanain mirror. >> I also cleaned it up a bit, because, well I don't see a ``mirrors'' >> list on the front page, yet the support page swears thats where >> the mirrors are listed. Have fun... >> >> -- >> Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes >> >> >> diff -ru en/support.sgml en.new/support.sgml >> --- en/support.sgml Sat Feb 23 01:02:26 2002 >> +++ en.new/support.sgml Fri Mar 8 15:01:30 2002 >> @@ -145,14 +145,11 @@ >> href="http://www.de.FreeBSD.org/">www.de.FreeBSD.org for >> Germany or > href="http://www.au.FreeBSD.org/">www.au.FreeBSD.org for >> - Australia), or select a mirror from the list on the > - href="&base;/index.html">home page. The same naming convention >> + Australia), or select a mirror from the list below. >> + The same naming convention >> is also used for FTP servers.

          >> - >> -

          In addition to the mirrors, several non-English web resources >> - are available:

          >> - >> -
            >> + >> +
              >>
            • Czech >> >>
            • Chinese FAQ >> @@ -182,6 +179,8 @@ >> >>
            • Spanish, > href="es/FAQ/FAQ.html">FAQ >> + >> +
            • >> > ^^^^ > > Please take your time and double-check these before submitting them. > > - jim > > Sorry.... :( -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 15: 0:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C0437B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28N04607633; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082300.g28N04607633@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Udo Erdelhoff Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Reply-To: Udo Erdelhoff Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35683: Fix amd info Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:46:23 +0100 Hi, On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 03:33:49PM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > - to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts should be listed in the > + to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts are usually listed in the one additional suggestion: Please use "are usually listed in /etc/fstab", i.e. drop the word "the". /s/Udo -- >Every program evolves until it is capable of sending email. Except Microsoft Exchange To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 15: 0:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FFF37B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28N06Q07644; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082300.g28N06Q07644@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35530: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35530: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:01:32 -0500 (EST) Blah, not my best day! -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes diff -ru handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml --- handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 12:06:07 2002 +++ handbook.new/mirrors/chapter.sgml Fri Mar 8 14:09:39 2002 @@ -2034,6 +2034,7 @@ ports/ukrainian ports/vietnamese doc/de_DE.ISO8859-1 +doc/el_GR.ISO8859-7 doc/es_ES.ISO8859-1 doc/fr_FR.ISO8859-1 doc/it_IT.ISO8859-15 @@ -3339,6 +3340,19 @@ + + + + Romania + + + + + cvsup.ro.FreeBSD.org (maintainer + razor@ldc.ro) + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 15: 0:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667837B417 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g28N08c07676; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203082300.g28N08c07676@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35530: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35530; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35530: New cvsup and www mirror in Romania Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:01:39 -0500 (EST) hehehe, this hasn't been one of my better days... sorry Jim, please accept this patch and commit, and be happy ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes diff -ru en/support.sgml en.new/support.sgml --- en/support.sgml Sat Feb 23 01:02:26 2002 +++ en.new/support.sgml Fri Mar 8 15:01:30 2002 @@ -145,14 +145,11 @@ href="http://www.de.FreeBSD.org/">www.de.FreeBSD.org for Germany or www.au.FreeBSD.org for - Australia), or select a mirror from the list on the home page. The same naming convention + Australia), or select a mirror from the list below. + The same naming convention is also used for FTP servers.

              - -

              In addition to the mirrors, several non-English web resources - are available:

              - -
                + +
                • Czech
                • Chinese FAQ @@ -182,6 +179,8 @@
                • Spanish, FAQ + +
                • Romania
                • Russian, FAQ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 15: 4:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zju.edu.cn (zjuem.zju.edu.cn [210.32.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C3937B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 07:10:03 +0800 Received: from 10.111.171.108 by 10.10.2.41 with HTTP; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 07:10:03 +0800 X-WebMAIL-MUA: [10.111.171.108] From: der@zju.edu.cn To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 07:10:03 +0800 Reply-To: der_1980@163.net Subject: Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020308230424.75C3937B400@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 17:10:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C4937B432 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g291A2r36528; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ns1.tenzing.com (mx2.tenzing.com [63.115.0.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8AB37B492 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com (bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com [63.115.2.96]) by ns1.tenzing.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2914IK31247; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:04:18 -0800 Received: (from tmckay@localhost) by bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2914GZ04823; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tmckay) Message-Id: <200203090104.g2914GZ04823@bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Travis J. McKay" Reply-To: "Travis J. McKay" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: tmckay@tenzing.com X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35696: mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent nsmb(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35696 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent nsmb(8) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 17:10:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Travis J. McKay >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: Tenzing Communications Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #3: Thu Jan 31 15:49:52 PST 2002 tmckay@bsdbox.seattle.tenzing.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSDBOX i386 >Description: In the mount_smbfs(8) manpage, two of the options (-M and -O) refer the reader to nsmb(8) for further background info. This would be all fine and dandy, only the manpage doesn't exist in either my -STABLE or in the online -CURRENT manpages at freebsd.org. >How-To-Repeat: man mount_smbfs >Fix: Retrieve nmb.8 from wherever it may be hiding... >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 17:10:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C2937B433 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g291A2n36537; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF96D37B41C for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #6) id 16jVMI-0007RF-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:09:14 +0000 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g2919EG75431; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:09:14 GMT (envelope-from andrew) Message-Id: <200203090109.g2919EG75431@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:09:14 GMT From: Andrew Boothman Reply-To: Andrew Boothman To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/35697: Add online document onto the docs page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35697 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add online document onto the docs page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Mar 08 17:10:02 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew Boothman >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD dogma 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #4: Thu Feb 7 16:13:48 GMT 2002 ip@karma:/usr/src/sys/compile/DOGMA i386 >Description: A few weeks ago a sent a message to -doc mentioning that there was a new online appendix to Operating Systems Concepts that was all about FreeBSD, and I wanted to check where people thought it should be added. I don't think anyone expressed any opinions, so I think it should go into /docs.html for now and perhaps into the developers handbook as well (I'll make a patch for that when I've decided exactly where is most appropriate). The appendix was also given the once-over by a few people on -hackers and they seemed to be happy with its content and thought it was worth linking to. >How-To-Repeat: Look at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html >Fix: --- docs.sgml.diff begins here --- *** docs.sgml.old Fri Mar 8 17:09:09 2002 --- docs.sgml Sat Mar 9 00:56:13 2002 *************** *** 448,454 **** in FreeBSD 4.X and earlier.

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                Appendix A from the college textbook ! ! Operating Systems Concepts by Silberschatz, Galvin and Gagne has been made available online in ! PDF format. The appendix ! is dedicated to FreeBSD and offers a good introduction to FreeBSD's internals and development.

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              --- docs.sgml.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 18: 0: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB9C37B400 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29202d47534; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203090200.g29202d47534@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/35644: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35644; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35644: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 01:57:07 +0000 "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > >Number: 35644 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. > >Description: > The lo(4) man page presumes familiarity with "printf" when it uses "%d" > in two places. Bad presumption. At least the first usage ("lo%d") is idiomatic; almost all manual pages (esp. those for drivers) in section 4 use it. Grep'ing for "%d" through sections 1, 4, 6, and 8 returns over 500 matches; some of these are no doubt not what we're looking for, but many are. I think it's reasonable to assume that the reader can mentally replace "%d" with "an integer". I wouldn't object to this being documented in some of the intro(X) manual pages, but I don't think it's wise to change all the pages that use this notation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 18:10: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBA937B402 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g292A2C52131; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203090210.g292A2C52131@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35686; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: swear@blarg.net Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 02:01:46 +0000 "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > >Number: 35686 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING > >Description: > > The "warnings" section of the blackhole(4) man page has these two > statements: > > In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used > for protection, not the blackhole feature. > > This mechanism is not a substitute for securing a system. It should > be used together with other security mechanisms. To me, this sounds more redundant than contradicting (they both say that blackhole isn't sufficient for a "secure system"), but I can understand how someone might interpret it that way. Do you have any suggestions for a better wording? Perhaps just removing the first paragraph would suffice--that seems more like a plug for ipfw(8) than a bug in blackhole(4), anyway. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 20:37:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27DC37B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (c2.depaul-inst.pittsburgh.pa.us [192.168.1.2]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g294div01419; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:39:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C899228.90806@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 23:40:08 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Gary W. Swearingen" Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING References: <200203090210.g292A2C52131@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dima Dorfman wrote: >The following reply was made to PR docs/35686; it has been noted by GNATS. > >From: Dima Dorfman >To: swear@blarg.net >Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 02:01:46 +0000 > > "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > > > >Number: 35686 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING > > >Description: > > > > The "warnings" section of the blackhole(4) man page has these two > > statements: > > > > In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used > > for protection, not the blackhole feature. > > > > This mechanism is not a substitute for securing a system. It should > > be used together with other security mechanisms. > > To me, this sounds more redundant than contradicting (they both say > that blackhole isn't sufficient for a "secure system"), but I can > understand how someone might interpret it that way. Do you have any > suggestions for a better wording? Perhaps just removing the first > paragraph would suffice--that seems more like a plug for ipfw(8) than > a bug in blackhole(4), anyway. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > > Review my last comment on this matter... these 2 paragraphs make me question if it can be used with ipfw(8) and other security ``mechanisms'' If anything, I feel the page isn't giveing enough information. I mean, can you ONLY use blackhole(4) or can you use it with ipfw(8)... If you must use them seperate, then why does blackhole(4) even exist... Sorry if i'm being "newbie" like, but I am asking myself these same questions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 22:30: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4380A37B417 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g296U3C43476; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:30:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203090630.g296U3C43476@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35686; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35686: blackhole(4) page seems to contradict itself in WARNING Date: 08 Mar 2002 22:24:51 -0800 Dima Dorfman writes: > "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used > > for protection, not the blackhole feature. > > > > This mechanism is not a substitute for securing a system. It should > > be used together with other security mechanisms. > ... > Do you have any > suggestions for a better wording? No, since I don't know what it SHOULD be trying to say. This is my best guess at what the above implies, but I doubt if it is what it SHOULD imply: In order to create a highly secure system, ipfw(8) should be used for protection, not the blackhole feature. For a less-than-highly secure system, use the blackhole feature with security mechanisms other than ipfw(8). For an unsecure system use only the blackhole feature (or nothing). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 22:45:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ms36.hinet.net (ms36.hinet.net [168.95.4.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7331037B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:45:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from morton (61-230-173-92.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.230.173.92]) by ms36.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02082 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:45:24 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <004b01c1c736$fa0ef450$0201a8c0@morton> Reply-To: "Morton Mu-Tai Lin" From: "Morton Mu-Tai Lin" To: Subject: small bug fix Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:52:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1C77A.07AED380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1C77A.07AED380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sir: In this web page :=20 http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-dec-2001-jan-2002.html#KSE-Stat= us-Report It had a small word spell bug: s/mor eeasily/more easily/ :-) Best Regards, Morton Lin. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1C77A.07AED380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
              Hi Sir:
               
              In this web page : =
              http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-dec-2001-jan= -2002.html#KSE-Status-Report
               
              It had a small word spell = bug:
               
              s/mor eeasily/more=20 easily/
               
              :-)
               
               
              Best Regards,
              Morton = Lin.
              ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C1C77A.07AED380-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 22:50: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C4C37B405 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g296o2n46000; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203090650.g296o2n46000@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/35644: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35644; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Dima Dorfman Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35644: lo(4) page presumes familiarity with printf. Date: 08 Mar 2002 22:49:15 -0800 Dima Dorfman writes: > I wouldn't object to this being documented in some > of the intro(X) manual pages, but I don't think it's wise to change > all the pages that use this notation. The "to much work" argument is OK by me, though I think it's really a nasty, ugly thing outside of sections 2 & 3 which can presume knowledge of "C" while I'd like to hope that many users know nothing of it. Documenting the esoteric symbol is a poor substitute for using a symbol understood by almost everybody, as many will not read or remember it, but I guess it's better than nothing. As to where it's documented, it seems to me that the man(1) page would be better than the intro(*) pages, but either will do OK. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Mar 8 23:20: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F6137B404 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g297K1d52653; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203090720.g297K1d52653@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Boris Popov Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Reply-To: Boris Popov Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Boris Popov To: Peter Pentchev Cc: Ceri , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:17:40 +0600 (ALMT) On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > I have /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/dot.nsmbrc on my system. > > It should probably get installed to /usr/share/examples though. > > OK, how about the following patch? > > However, this includes a patch to src/contrib/smbfs/, which is not > something we should really be doing. This message is CC'd to > Boris Popov, the author of the FreeBSD smbfs code; Boris, could you > look at this PR and see if you like the proposed change to > the mount_smbfs.8 manual page? I know that this will probably require > a patch to the port, since it either does not install this sample > file, or at least does not install it under /usr/share/examples/ > However, the original poster's claim that ./examples/dot.nsmbrc is > not quite what the manual page should mention sounds about right for me :) Yes, this path is somewhat incorrect and update to mount_smbfs.8 is required. However an example of dor.nsmbrc file already installed as /etc/nsmb.conf. The syntax of both files are the same with exception that system-wide configuration file will override equal settings in the per account dot.nsmbrc file. -- Boris Popov http://rbp.euro.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 2:30:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D888F37B419 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29AU5i85175; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203091030.g29AU5i85175@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Matthew D. Fuller" Subject: Re: docs/35436: PAO isn't very latest-and-greatest these days Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35436; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Michael Lucas Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/35436: PAO isn't very latest-and-greatest these days Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:29:30 -0600 On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 07:33:15AM -0500 I heard the voice of Michael Lucas, and lo! it spake thus: > > The FAQ covers older versions of FreeBSD... should the website? If > so, we should add version-specific info here. FWIW, I'd say "yes, but not a major version that's a year or better out of development". -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 2:30:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F9D37B417 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29AU2J85159; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203091030.g29AU2J85159@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Matthew D. Fuller" Subject: Re: docs/35575: Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/log/userlog Reply-To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35575; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: dannyman@toldme.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35575: Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/log/userlog Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:21:55 -0600 On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 07:10:32PM -0800 I heard the voice of dannyman@toldme.com, and lo! it spake thus: > > >Fix: > > At least mention /var/log/userlog in FILES. It may be useful to > document the any relevant syslog information as well. > > If nobody wants to "own" fixing this, then I'll roll up my sleeves, do > some research, and supply patches. Well, I can't "own" it, but I can supply patches :) syslog isn't involved, it logs directly. How about this: Index: pw.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.sbin/pw/pw.8,v retrieving revision 1.25 diff -u -r1.25 pw.8 --- pw.8 2001/07/15 08:02:41 1.25 +++ pw.8 2002/03/09 10:20:05 @@ -884,6 +884,14 @@ .Xr fingerd 8 , and a small number of TCP/IP clients, such as IRC, where full names specified in the passwd file may be used by default. +.Pp +.Nm Pw +logs actions to the +.Pa /var/log/userlog +file when actions such as user or group additions or deletions occur. +The location of this logfile can be changed in the +.Xr pw.conf 5 +file. .Sh FILES .Bl -tag -width /etc/master.passwd.new -compact .It Pa /etc/master.passwd @@ -902,6 +910,8 @@ Temporary copy of the group file .It Pa /etc/pw.conf Pw default options file +.It Pa /var/log/userlog +User/group modification logfile .El .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr chpass 1 , -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 8:50: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9E037B400 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29Go2A89706; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203091650.g29Go2A89706@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/35683: [PATCH] Fix amd info Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35683; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/35683: [PATCH] Fix amd info Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:43:56 -0500 (EST) I like your suggestion Udo, I killed the nitpick word "the" and did a little more than just that. This patch is a tad bit larger, and I would either like some comments or a commit. I did not like the use of the word "access" 3 times in one sentence. Here is a proposed rewording of that sentence, natd section. -- Tom Rhodes diff -ru handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml --- handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Thu Mar 7 18:55:11 2002 +++ handbook.new/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml Sat Mar 9 11:37:19 2002 @@ -988,13 +988,13 @@ automatic mounter daemon &man.amd.8; (the automatic mounter daemon) - is a useful daemon that automatically mounts a + automatically mounts a remote filesystem whenever a file or directory within that filesystem is accessed. Filesystems that are inactive for a period of time will also be automatically unmounted by amd. Using amd provides a simple alternative - to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts should be listed in the + to permanent mounts, as permanent mounts are usually listed in /etc/fstab. amd operates by attaching @@ -4796,7 +4796,7 @@ Setup Due to the diminishing IP space in IPv4, and the increased number of users on high-speed consumer lines such as cable or DSL, people are - in more and more need of an Internet Connection Sharing solution. The + more in need of an Internet Connection Sharing solution. The ability to connect several computers online through one connection and IP address makes &man.natd.8; a reasonable choice. @@ -4831,9 +4831,9 @@ - With this setup, the machine without Internet access can use - the machine with access as a gateway to access the outside - world. + With a setup such as this, a machine not connected to the + internet directly can still access the internet through + the LAN. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 9:52:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C767437B400; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rwatson@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29HiUF01493; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:44:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rwatson) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:44:30 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200203091744.g29HiUF01493@freefall.freebsd.org> To: thierry@herbelot.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32825: undocumented options in LINT Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: undocumented options in LINT State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: rwatson State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 9 09:41:36 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE, following modifications to -CURRENT's NOTES as a result of conf/35674. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32825 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 12:40: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316ED37B41D for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29Ke1I52987; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC6537B402 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:38:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29Kcsl52879; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:38:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200203092038.g29Kcsl52879@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:38:54 -0800 (PST) From: wolfram schneider To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35711 >Category: docs >Synopsis: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 12:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: wolfram schneider >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: the "gnats page" http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats should move to its own subdirectory www.freebsd.org/bugs >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 13:25:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C197F37B404 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-a076.otenet.gr [212.205.215.76]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g29LP9ft016221; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:25:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g29LP91f056244; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:25:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g29LP7h1056237; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:25:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hades.hell.gr: charon set sender to keramida@freebsd.org using -f Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:25:06 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Michael Lucas Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: patch for opinions Message-ID: <20020309212506.GB53719@hades.hell.gr> References: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020308145629.A68153@blackhelicopters.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-03-08 14:56, Michael Lucas wrote: > > I'm perfectly happy to hear that this is a non-issue, mind you, but I > can see this sort of thing either hurting feelings or setting a > precedent the Project doesn't want set. Thoughts? It looks nice, if you ask me... Giorgos Keramidas FreeBSD Documentation Project keramida@{freebsd.org,ceid.upatras.gr} http://www.FreeBSD.org/docproj/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 14: 0:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D837837B41A for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g29M05V69146; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:00:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203092200.g29M05V69146@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Peter Pentchev Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Reply-To: Peter Pentchev Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Peter Pentchev To: Boris Popov Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for details." Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:58:06 +0200 On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:20:01PM -0800, Boris Popov wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/35649; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: Boris Popov > To: Peter Pentchev > Cc: Ceri , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: docs/35649: mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.nsmbrc for > details." > Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:17:40 +0600 (ALMT) > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > I have /usr/src/contrib/smbfs/examples/dot.nsmbrc on my system. > > > It should probably get installed to /usr/share/examples though. > > > > OK, how about the following patch? > > > > However, this includes a patch to src/contrib/smbfs/, which is not > > something we should really be doing. This message is CC'd to > > Boris Popov, the author of the FreeBSD smbfs code; Boris, could you > > look at this PR and see if you like the proposed change to > > the mount_smbfs.8 manual page? I know that this will probably require > > a patch to the port, since it either does not install this sample > > file, or at least does not install it under /usr/share/examples/ > > However, the original poster's claim that ./examples/dot.nsmbrc is > > not quite what the manual page should mention sounds about right for me :) > > Yes, this path is somewhat incorrect and update to mount_smbfs.8 > is required. However an example of dor.nsmbrc file already installed as > /etc/nsmb.conf. The syntax of both files are the same with exception that > system-wide configuration file will override equal settings in the per > account dot.nsmbrc file. Well, I have to admit that I never noticed that a sample file was actually installed; however, there are two problems I can see with that. First, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly the same as dot.nsmbrc; second, /etc/nsmb.conf is not exactly usable as a reference for normal users, should they want to do per-user settings - it is installed with 0600 permissions, making it quite hard to read :) I still think that an /usr/share/examples/smbfs/dot.nsmbrc or similar is in order; there already is some sample smbfs configuration in /usr/share/examples/, although only related to printing. G'luck, Peter -- Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 When you are not looking at it, this sentence is in Spanish. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 16: 0:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0970F37B41D for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A00AO96199; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:00:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203100000.g2A00AO96199@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Murray Stokely Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory Reply-To: Murray Stokely Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Murray Stokely To: wolfram schneider Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:57:42 -0800 I completely agree. Does our lead bugbuster have any input about this? - Murray On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 12:38:54PM -0800, wolfram schneider wrote: > > >Number: 35711 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: low > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 12:40:01 PST 2002 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: wolfram schneider > >Release: > >Organization: > >Environment: > >Description: > the "gnats page" http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#gnats > should move to its own subdirectory www.freebsd.org/bugs > >How-To-Repeat: > > >Fix: > > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 16:50: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AFC37B417 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A0o2b06190; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 16:50:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200203100050.g2A0o2b06190@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory Reply-To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/35711; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav To: Murray Stokely Cc: wolfram schneider , freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/35711: the "gnats page" should move to its own subdirectory Date: 10 Mar 2002 01:40:04 +0100 Murray Stokely writes: > I completely agree. Does our lead bugbuster have any input about > this? Yes, please. I'm even willing to maintain it (or have one of my minions maintain it). What I'd like is: /bugs/index.html (general info about bugs, bugmaster & bugbusters) /bugs/gnats.html (reworked search form) and have bugs.freebsd.org point to /bugs/. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 20:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B57F37B41A for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A4o1d52334; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325C737B417 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:46:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D170EBDD6 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29323 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:46:10 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2A4nY704211; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 09 Mar 2002 20:49:34 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35723: le(4) page doesn't warn about likely system crashes. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35723 >Category: docs >Synopsis: le(4) page doesn't warn about likely system crashes. >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 20:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The le(4) man page should warn in a new "Bugs" section (placed before the "Description", preferably) that the le driver has been causing system panics during use of "ifconfig" since at least 4.0-RELEASE and is no longer being supported. (It got it with 4.5 and the only reply to my crash dump report was a reference to the suspended PR misc/18641 on the same symptom) and a comment that it seemed to be unsupported.) ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: See Description. A PR against the driver, GENERIC, LINT, etc, should probably be entered. Is it customary to write one or two PRs in these situations? Should misc/18641 get a followup? I think I just read that obsolete stuff stays in until the next x.0-RELEASE. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 21: 0:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED9337B41A for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A505M53820; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:00:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1B837B404 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6962DBDBD for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA30804 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:54:36 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2A4w0B04215; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: <918z91dnon.z91@localhost.localdomain> Date: 09 Mar 2002 20:58:00 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35724: www; Handbook missing link to important HARDWARE.TXT file. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Note: There was a bad value `medium' for the field `>Severity:'. It was set to the default value of `serious'. >Number: 35724 >Category: docs >Synopsis: www; Handbook missing link to important HARDWARE.TXT file. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 21:00:05 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x2805.html refers to HARDWARE.TXT without providing a link to the file. The people who most need to know about hardware support often don't have the file on their systems or on a CD-ROM or know how to find it at freebsd.org. ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Add a link to the file. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 23:32:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zju.edu.cn (zjuem.zju.edu.cn [210.32.156.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A8737B41C for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (eyou send program); Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:38:00 +0800 Received: from 10.111.171.108 by 10.10.2.41 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:38:00 +0800 X-WebMAIL-MUA: [10.111.171.108] From: der@zju.edu.cn To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:38:00 +0800 Reply-To: der_1980@163.net Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20020310073232.A0A8737B41C@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org help end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Mar 9 23:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624E37B416 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2A7o1m85301; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0A737B419 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815A9BCA6 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27946 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:45:33 -0800 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g2A7muH04435; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) Message-Id: Date: 09 Mar 2002 23:48:56 -0800 From: "Gary W. Swearingen" Reply-To: swear@blarg.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/35730: mknod(8) page refers to non-existent file device. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 35730 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mknod(8) page refers to non-existent file device. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Mar 09 23:50:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Gary W. Swearingen >Release: FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: none >Environment: n/a ================ >Description: The mknod(8) man page refers to the non-existent file "/usr/src/sys/conf/device.". (Yes, I have the source cvsup'd. :-) It also has a couple of English problems; see below: ================ >How-To-Repeat: n/a ================ >Fix: Determine which file documents major/minor device numbers, if any, and either replace the filename or remove the stuff following the /dev/MAKEDEV reference. In the "Compatibility" section, change "wound" to "would" and change "chown(8) like functionality" to "chown(8)-like functionality" (or reword it). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message