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>Number:         38568
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Minor improvements to PPPoA section
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun May 26 02:10:02 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Dominic Marks
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-RC i386
>Organization:
Student
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD 4.6-RC i386
	
>Description:
	In my latest update to the PPPoA section two minor errors sliped in.
	One was a label reverse-truncated by three characters. And a space
	in a command example went missing.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	NA.
	
>Fix:

Index: chapter.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.76
diff -u -r1.76 chapter.sgml
--- chapter.sgml	2002/05/19 11:14:02	1.76
+++ chapter.sgml	2002/05/26 08:54:15
@@ -2153,7 +2153,7 @@
       <programlisting>default:
     load adsl
 
-l:
+adsl:
     new -i ng0 adsl adsl
     set bundle authname <replaceable>username</replaceable> <co
     id="co-mpd-ex-user">
@@ -2200,7 +2200,7 @@
     <para>It is possible to initialise the connection easily by issuing the
       following command as <username>root</username>.</para>
 
-    <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mpd -b</userinput><replaceable>adsl</replaceable></screen>
+    <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>mpd -b</userinput> <replaceable>adsl</replaceable></screen>
 
     <para>You can see the status of the connection with the following
       command.</para>
	
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Hi,

I've found a grammar error in the Handbook.
In section 5.2.3, entitled "The Window Manager", paragraph 2, line 2, it reads:

	"what keystrokes to should use to move between windows"

I just CVSup'ed my docs too, so this should still be there.

P.S. I hope this is the right place to send this sort of message to.

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why has gnome/images/ss1.jpg been changed to png format? to make it
bloat ~3.9 times as much it was?

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Hello,

Here's my mega-patch according to community opinion. I need to find a 
brave soul to work on it :)

Some details:

- in text sysinstall is without upper case and between application tags
- fdisk is fdisk not FDisk etc...
- use of disklabel instead of Disklabel in the text.
- use of fips instead of FIPS.
- Partition Magic is not changed, the commercial name is with uppercases
- DEFRAG should be defrag.
- Norton Disk Tools, Stacker, and DoubleSpace are apps, and so need
  application tags.

Marc

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diff -ruN handbook.org/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.org/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Thu May 16 03:42:20 2002
+++ handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 11:59:55 2002
@@ -3384,7 +3384,7 @@
           <primary><application>sysinstall</application></primary>
         </indexterm>
         <para>DHCP is supported by <application>sysinstall</application>.
-          When configuring a network interface within sysinstall, 
+          When configuring a network interface within <application>sysinstall</application>, 
           the first question asked is, "Do you want to try DHCP
           configuration of this interface?"  Answering affirmatively will
           execute <command>dhclient</command>, and if successful, will fill 
diff -ruN handbook.org/install/chapter.sgml handbook/install/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.org/install/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 01:11:10 2002
+++ handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 11:59:12 2002
@@ -34,10 +34,10 @@
     <indexterm><primary>installation</primary></indexterm>
 
     <para>FreeBSD is provided with a text-based, easy to use installation
-      program called <application>Sysinstall</application>.  This is the
+      program called <application>sysinstall</application>.  This is the
       default installation program for FreeBSD, although vendors are free to
       provide their own installation suite if they wish.  This chapter
-      describes how to use <application>Sysinstall</application> to install
+      describes how to use <application>sysinstall</application> to install
       FreeBSD.</para>
 
     <para>After reading this chapter, you will know:</para>
@@ -52,11 +52,11 @@
       </listitem>
 
       <listitem>
-	<para>How to start <application>Sysinstall</application>.</para>
+	<para>How to start <application>sysinstall</application>.</para>
       </listitem>
 
       <listitem>
-	<para>The questions <application>Sysinstall</application> will ask
+	<para>The questions <application>sysinstall</application> will ask
 	  you, what they mean, and how to answer them.</para>
       </listitem>
     </itemizedlist>
@@ -1052,7 +1052,7 @@
 
 	  <para>Answer <keycap>Y</keycap> to save the parameters and the
 	    probing will start.  After displaying the probe results in white
-	    on black text <application>Sysinstall</application> will start
+	    on black text <application>sysinstall</application> will start
 	    and display its main menu 
 	    (<xref linkend="sysinstall-main">).</para>
 
@@ -1193,10 +1193,10 @@
       divided into a number of menus and screens that you can use to
       configure and control the installation process.</para>
 
-    <para>The <application>Sysinstall</application> menu system is controlled
+    <para>The <application>sysinstall</application> menu system is controlled
       by the arrow keys, <keycap>Enter</keycap>, <keycap>Space</keycap>, and
       other keys.  A detailed description of these keys, and what they do, is
-      contained in <application>Sysinstall's</application> usage 
+      contained in <application>sysinstall</application>'s usage 
       information.</para>
 
     <para>To review this information, ensure that the
@@ -1364,7 +1364,7 @@
     <title>Allocating Disk Space</title>
 
     <para>Your first task is to allocate disk space for FreeBSD, and label
-      that space so that <application>Sysinstall</application> can prepare
+      that space so that <application>sysinstall</application> can prepare
       it.  In order to do this you need to know how FreeBSD expects to find
       information on the disk.</para>
 
@@ -1736,7 +1736,7 @@
 		meaning associated with it, although that is now gone.  To
 		this day, some tools may operate oddly if told to work on
 		partition <literal>d</literal>, so
-		<application>Sysinstall</application> will not normally create
+		<application>sysinstall</application> will not normally create
 		partition <literal>d</literal>.</entry>
 	    </row>
 	  </tbody>
@@ -1930,18 +1930,18 @@
 
 
     <sect2 id="main-fdisk">
-      <title>Creating Slices using FDisk</title>
+      <title>Creating Slices Using Fdisk</title>
 
       <note>
 	<para>No changes you make at this point will be written to the disk.
 	  If you think you have made a mistake and want to start again you can
-	  use the menus to exit <application>Sysinstall</application> and try
+	  use the menus to exit <application>sysinstall</application> and try
 	  again.  If you get confused and can not see how to exit you can
 	  always turn your computer off.</para>
       </note>
 
       <para>After choosing to begin a standard installation in
-	<application>Sysinstall</application> you will be shown this
+	<application>sysinstall</application> you will be shown this
 	message:</para>
 
       <screen>                                 Message
@@ -1964,7 +1964,7 @@
 	<devicename>ad0</devicename> and <devicename>ad2</devicename>.</para>
 
       <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk-drive1">
-	<title>Select Drive for FDisk</title>
+	<title>Select Drive For Fdisk</title>
 
 	<mediaobject>
 	  <imageobject>
@@ -2007,10 +2007,10 @@
 
       <para>You should select the disk on which you want to install FreeBSD,
 	and then press &gui.ok;.
-	<application>FDisk</application> will start, with a display similar to
+	The utility <application>fdisk</application> will start, with a display similar to
 	that shown in <xref linkend="sysinstall-fdisk1">.</para>
 
-      <para>The <application>FDisk</application> display is broken into three
+      <para>The <application>fdisk</application> display is broken into three
 	sections.</para>
 
       <para>The first section, covering the first two lines of the display,
@@ -2026,7 +2026,7 @@
 	slice, which may contain other drive letters for DOS / Windows.</para>
 
       <para>The third section shows the commands that are available in
-	<application>FDisk</application>.</para>
+	<application>fdisk</application>.</para>
 
       <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk1">
 	<title>Typical Fdisk Partitions Before Editing</title>
@@ -2043,7 +2043,7 @@
 
       <para>If you want to use FreeBSD for the entire disk (which will delete
 	all the other data on this disk when you confirm that you want
-	<application>Sysinstall</application> to continue later in the
+	<application>sysinstall</application> to continue later in the
 	installation process) then you can press <keycap>A</keycap>, which
 	corresponds to the <guimenuitem>Use Entire Disk</guimenuitem> option.
 	The existing slices will be removed, and replaced with a small area
@@ -2079,7 +2079,7 @@
       </figure>
 
       <para>When finished, press <keycap>Q</keycap>.  Your changes will be
-	saved in <application>Sysinstall</application>, but will not yet be
+	saved in <application>sysinstall</application>, but will not yet be
 	written to disk.</para>
     </sect2>
 
@@ -2126,7 +2126,7 @@
 	Select Drives screen after the boot manager selection.  If you wish to
 	install FreeBSD on to more than one disk, then you can select another
 	disk here and repeat the slice process using
-	<application>FDisk</application>.</para>
+	<application>fdisk</application>.</para>
 
       <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk-drive2">
 	<title>Exit Select Drive</title>
@@ -2150,7 +2150,7 @@
 
     <sect2 id="disklabeleditor">
       <title>Creating Partitions using
-	<application>Disklabel</application></title>
+	<application>disklabel</application></title>
       
       <para>You must now create some partitions inside each slice that you
 	have just created.  Remember that each partition is lettered, from
@@ -2308,7 +2308,7 @@
 		partition on a slice is reserved for the filesystem that will
 		be the root (<filename>/</filename>) filesystem.  You do not
 		have to follow this convention, but
-		<application>Sysinstall</application> does, so following it
+		<application>sysinstall</application> does, so following it
 		yourself makes the installation slightly cleaner.  You can
 		choose to mount this filesystem anywhere; this example
 		suggests that you mount them as directories
@@ -2321,7 +2321,7 @@
       </table>
 
       <para>Having chosen your partition layout you can now create it using
-	<application>Sysinstall</application>.  You will see this
+	<application>sysinstall</application>.  You will see this
 	message:</para>
 
       <screen>                                 Message
@@ -2335,15 +2335,15 @@
                                 [  OK  ] </screen>
 
       <para>Press <keycap>Enter</keycap> to start the FreeBSD partition
-	editor, called <application>Disklabel</application>.</para>
+	editor, called <application>disklabel</application>.</para>
 
       <para><xref linkend="sysinstall-label"> shows the display when you first
-	start <application>Disklabel</application>.  The display is divided in
+	start <application>disklabel</application>.  The display is divided in
 	to three sections.</para>
 
       <para>The first few lines show the name of the disk you are currently
 	working on, and the slice that contains the partitions you are
-	creating (at this point <application>Disklabel</application> calls
+	creating (at this point <application>disklabel</application> calls
 	this the <literal>Partition name</literal> rather than slice name).
 	This display also shows the amount of free space within the slice;
 	that is, space that was set aside in the slice, but that has not yet
@@ -2355,7 +2355,7 @@
 	filesystem.</para>
 
       <para>The bottom third of the screen shows the keystrokes that are valid
-	in <application>Disklabel</application>.</para>
+	in <application>disklabel</application>.</para>
 
       <figure id="sysinstall-label">
 	<title>Sysinstall Disklabel Editor</title>
@@ -2367,7 +2367,7 @@
 	</mediaobject>
       </figure>
 
-      <para><application>Disklabel</application> can automatically create
+      <para>The utility <application>disklabel</application> can automatically create
 	partitions for you and assign them default sizes.  Try this now, by
 	Pressing <keycap>A</keycap>.  You will see a display similar to that
 	shown in <xref linkend="sysinstall-label2">.  Depending on the size of
@@ -2454,7 +2454,7 @@
       </figure>
       
       <para>Finally, because you are creating a filesystem, you must tell
-	<application>Disklabel</application> where the filesystem is to be
+	<application>disklabel</application> where the filesystem is to be
 	mounted.  The dialog box is shown in 
 	<xref linkend="sysinstall-label-mount">.  The root filesystem's mount
 	point is <filename>/</filename>, so type <userinput>/</userinput>, and
@@ -4660,23 +4660,23 @@
 	  <answer>
 	    <para>If your machine is already running MS-DOS and has little
 	      or no free space available for the FreeBSD installation, all
-	      hope is not lost!  You may find the <application>FIPS</application>
+	      hope is not lost!  You may find the <application>fips</application>
 	      utility, provided
 	      in the <filename>tools</filename> directory on the FreeBSD
 	      CDROM or various FreeBSD FTP sites to be quite
 	      useful.</para>
 
 	    <indexterm>
-	      <primary><command>FIPS</command></primary>
+	      <primary><command>fips</command></primary>
 	    </indexterm>
-	    <para><application>FIPS</application> allows you to split an
+	    <para>The utility <application>fips</application> allows you to split an
 	      existing MS-DOS partition into two pieces, preserving the
 	      original partition and allowing you to install onto the second
 	      free piece.  You first defragment your MS-DOS partition using
-	      the Windows <application>DEFRAG</application> utility (go into
+	      the Windows <application>defrag</application> utility (go into
 	      Explorer, right-click on the hard drive, and choose to defrag
-	      your hard drive), or Norton Disk Tools. You then must run
-	      <application>FIPS</application>.  It will prompt you for the
+	      your hard drive), or <application>Norton Disk Tools</application>. You then must run
+	      <application>fips</application>.  It will prompt you for the
 	      rest of the information it needs.  Afterwards, you can reboot
 	      and install FreeBSD on the new free slice.  See the
 	      <emphasis>Distributions</emphasis> menu for an estimate of how
@@ -4690,10 +4690,10 @@
 	      from <ulink url="http://www.powerquest.com/">PowerQuest</ulink>
 	      called <application>Partition Magic</application>. This
 	      application has far more functionality than
-	      <application>FIPS</application>, and is highly recommended if
+	      <application>fips</application>, and is highly recommended if
 	      you plan to often add/remove operating systems (like me).
 	      However, it does cost money, and if you plan to install FreeBSD
-	      once and then leave it there, <application>FIPS</application>
+	      once and then leave it there, <application>fips</application>
 	      will probably be fine for you.</para>
 	  </answer>
 	</qandaentry>
@@ -4706,8 +4706,8 @@
 
 	  <answer>
 	    <para>No.  If you are using a utility such as
-	      <trademark class="trade">Stacker</trademark> or
-	      <trademark class="trade">DoubleSpace</trademark>, FreeBSD
+	      <trademark class="trade"><application>Stacker</application></trademark> or
+	      <trademark class="trade"><application>DoubleSpace</application></trademark>, FreeBSD
 	      will only be able to use whatever portion of the filesystem
 	      you leave uncompressed.  The rest of the filesystem will
 	      show up as one large file (the stacked/double spaced file!).
@@ -5001,7 +5001,7 @@
 
     <para>There may be some situations in which you need to create your own
       FreeBSD installation media and/or source.  This might be physical media,
-      such as a tape, or a source that <application>Sysinstall</application>
+      such as a tape, or a source that <application>sysinstall</application>
       can use to retrieve the files, such as a local FTP site, or an MS-DOS
       partition.  For example:</para>
 
diff -ruN handbook.org/l10n/chapter.sgml handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.org/l10n/chapter.sgml	Wed Mar 27 02:16:54 2002
+++ handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 12:00:51 2002
@@ -470,7 +470,7 @@
       <para>Also be sure to set the correct keymap and screenmap for your
 	single C chars character set through
 	<filename>/stand/sysinstall</filename>.
-	Once inside sysinstall, choose <literal>Configure</literal>, then
+	Once inside <application>sysinstall</application>, choose <literal>Configure</literal>, then
 	<literal>Console</literal>.  Alternatively, you can add the
 	following to <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>:</para>
 
diff -ruN handbook.org/ports/chapter.sgml handbook/ports/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.org/ports/chapter.sgml	Sat May  4 17:20:00 2002
+++ handbook/ports/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 12:03:08 2002
@@ -451,7 +451,7 @@
       </para>
 
       <para>When installing your FreeBSD system,
-	<application>Sysinstall</application> asked if you would like to
+	<application>sysinstall</application> asked if you would like to
 	install the ports collection.  If you chose no, you can follow
 	these instructions to obtain the ports collection.</para>
 

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From: Marc Fonvieille <marc@blackend.org>
To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
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Subject: Re: docs/38540: sysinstall application name should be Sysinstall with right tags in all the Handbook
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 12:18:01 +0200

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 Hello,
 
 Here's my mega-patch according to community opinion. I need to find a 
 brave soul to work on it :)
 
 Some details:
 
 - in text sysinstall is without upper case and between application tags
 - fdisk is fdisk not FDisk etc...
 - use of disklabel instead of Disklabel in the text.
 - use of fips instead of FIPS.
 - Partition Magic is not changed, the commercial name is with uppercases
 - DEFRAG should be defrag.
 - Norton Disk Tools, Stacker, and DoubleSpace are apps, and so need
   application tags.
 
 Marc
 
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 diff -ruN handbook.org/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml
 --- handbook.org/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Thu May 16 03:42:20 2002
 +++ handbook/advanced-networking/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 11:59:55 2002
 @@ -3384,7 +3384,7 @@
            <primary><application>sysinstall</application></primary>
          </indexterm>
          <para>DHCP is supported by <application>sysinstall</application>.
 -          When configuring a network interface within sysinstall, 
 +          When configuring a network interface within <application>sysinstall</application>, 
            the first question asked is, "Do you want to try DHCP
            configuration of this interface?"  Answering affirmatively will
            execute <command>dhclient</command>, and if successful, will fill 
 diff -ruN handbook.org/install/chapter.sgml handbook/install/chapter.sgml
 --- handbook.org/install/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 01:11:10 2002
 +++ handbook/install/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 11:59:12 2002
 @@ -34,10 +34,10 @@
      <indexterm><primary>installation</primary></indexterm>
  
      <para>FreeBSD is provided with a text-based, easy to use installation
 -      program called <application>Sysinstall</application>.  This is the
 +      program called <application>sysinstall</application>.  This is the
        default installation program for FreeBSD, although vendors are free to
        provide their own installation suite if they wish.  This chapter
 -      describes how to use <application>Sysinstall</application> to install
 +      describes how to use <application>sysinstall</application> to install
        FreeBSD.</para>
  
      <para>After reading this chapter, you will know:</para>
 @@ -52,11 +52,11 @@
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
 -	<para>How to start <application>Sysinstall</application>.</para>
 +	<para>How to start <application>sysinstall</application>.</para>
        </listitem>
  
        <listitem>
 -	<para>The questions <application>Sysinstall</application> will ask
 +	<para>The questions <application>sysinstall</application> will ask
  	  you, what they mean, and how to answer them.</para>
        </listitem>
      </itemizedlist>
 @@ -1052,7 +1052,7 @@
  
  	  <para>Answer <keycap>Y</keycap> to save the parameters and the
  	    probing will start.  After displaying the probe results in white
 -	    on black text <application>Sysinstall</application> will start
 +	    on black text <application>sysinstall</application> will start
  	    and display its main menu 
  	    (<xref linkend="sysinstall-main">).</para>
  
 @@ -1193,10 +1193,10 @@
        divided into a number of menus and screens that you can use to
        configure and control the installation process.</para>
  
 -    <para>The <application>Sysinstall</application> menu system is controlled
 +    <para>The <application>sysinstall</application> menu system is controlled
        by the arrow keys, <keycap>Enter</keycap>, <keycap>Space</keycap>, and
        other keys.  A detailed description of these keys, and what they do, is
 -      contained in <application>Sysinstall's</application> usage 
 +      contained in <application>sysinstall</application>'s usage 
        information.</para>
  
      <para>To review this information, ensure that the
 @@ -1364,7 +1364,7 @@
      <title>Allocating Disk Space</title>
  
      <para>Your first task is to allocate disk space for FreeBSD, and label
 -      that space so that <application>Sysinstall</application> can prepare
 +      that space so that <application>sysinstall</application> can prepare
        it.  In order to do this you need to know how FreeBSD expects to find
        information on the disk.</para>
  
 @@ -1736,7 +1736,7 @@
  		meaning associated with it, although that is now gone.  To
  		this day, some tools may operate oddly if told to work on
  		partition <literal>d</literal>, so
 -		<application>Sysinstall</application> will not normally create
 +		<application>sysinstall</application> will not normally create
  		partition <literal>d</literal>.</entry>
  	    </row>
  	  </tbody>
 @@ -1930,18 +1930,18 @@
  
  
      <sect2 id="main-fdisk">
 -      <title>Creating Slices using FDisk</title>
 +      <title>Creating Slices Using Fdisk</title>
  
        <note>
  	<para>No changes you make at this point will be written to the disk.
  	  If you think you have made a mistake and want to start again you can
 -	  use the menus to exit <application>Sysinstall</application> and try
 +	  use the menus to exit <application>sysinstall</application> and try
  	  again.  If you get confused and can not see how to exit you can
  	  always turn your computer off.</para>
        </note>
  
        <para>After choosing to begin a standard installation in
 -	<application>Sysinstall</application> you will be shown this
 +	<application>sysinstall</application> you will be shown this
  	message:</para>
  
        <screen>                                 Message
 @@ -1964,7 +1964,7 @@
  	<devicename>ad0</devicename> and <devicename>ad2</devicename>.</para>
  
        <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk-drive1">
 -	<title>Select Drive for FDisk</title>
 +	<title>Select Drive For Fdisk</title>
  
  	<mediaobject>
  	  <imageobject>
 @@ -2007,10 +2007,10 @@
  
        <para>You should select the disk on which you want to install FreeBSD,
  	and then press &gui.ok;.
 -	<application>FDisk</application> will start, with a display similar to
 +	The utility <application>fdisk</application> will start, with a display similar to
  	that shown in <xref linkend="sysinstall-fdisk1">.</para>
  
 -      <para>The <application>FDisk</application> display is broken into three
 +      <para>The <application>fdisk</application> display is broken into three
  	sections.</para>
  
        <para>The first section, covering the first two lines of the display,
 @@ -2026,7 +2026,7 @@
  	slice, which may contain other drive letters for DOS / Windows.</para>
  
        <para>The third section shows the commands that are available in
 -	<application>FDisk</application>.</para>
 +	<application>fdisk</application>.</para>
  
        <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk1">
  	<title>Typical Fdisk Partitions Before Editing</title>
 @@ -2043,7 +2043,7 @@
  
        <para>If you want to use FreeBSD for the entire disk (which will delete
  	all the other data on this disk when you confirm that you want
 -	<application>Sysinstall</application> to continue later in the
 +	<application>sysinstall</application> to continue later in the
  	installation process) then you can press <keycap>A</keycap>, which
  	corresponds to the <guimenuitem>Use Entire Disk</guimenuitem> option.
  	The existing slices will be removed, and replaced with a small area
 @@ -2079,7 +2079,7 @@
        </figure>
  
        <para>When finished, press <keycap>Q</keycap>.  Your changes will be
 -	saved in <application>Sysinstall</application>, but will not yet be
 +	saved in <application>sysinstall</application>, but will not yet be
  	written to disk.</para>
      </sect2>
  
 @@ -2126,7 +2126,7 @@
  	Select Drives screen after the boot manager selection.  If you wish to
  	install FreeBSD on to more than one disk, then you can select another
  	disk here and repeat the slice process using
 -	<application>FDisk</application>.</para>
 +	<application>fdisk</application>.</para>
  
        <figure id="sysinstall-fdisk-drive2">
  	<title>Exit Select Drive</title>
 @@ -2150,7 +2150,7 @@
  
      <sect2 id="disklabeleditor">
        <title>Creating Partitions using
 -	<application>Disklabel</application></title>
 +	<application>disklabel</application></title>
        
        <para>You must now create some partitions inside each slice that you
  	have just created.  Remember that each partition is lettered, from
 @@ -2308,7 +2308,7 @@
  		partition on a slice is reserved for the filesystem that will
  		be the root (<filename>/</filename>) filesystem.  You do not
  		have to follow this convention, but
 -		<application>Sysinstall</application> does, so following it
 +		<application>sysinstall</application> does, so following it
  		yourself makes the installation slightly cleaner.  You can
  		choose to mount this filesystem anywhere; this example
  		suggests that you mount them as directories
 @@ -2321,7 +2321,7 @@
        </table>
  
        <para>Having chosen your partition layout you can now create it using
 -	<application>Sysinstall</application>.  You will see this
 +	<application>sysinstall</application>.  You will see this
  	message:</para>
  
        <screen>                                 Message
 @@ -2335,15 +2335,15 @@
                                  [  OK  ] </screen>
  
        <para>Press <keycap>Enter</keycap> to start the FreeBSD partition
 -	editor, called <application>Disklabel</application>.</para>
 +	editor, called <application>disklabel</application>.</para>
  
        <para><xref linkend="sysinstall-label"> shows the display when you first
 -	start <application>Disklabel</application>.  The display is divided in
 +	start <application>disklabel</application>.  The display is divided in
  	to three sections.</para>
  
        <para>The first few lines show the name of the disk you are currently
  	working on, and the slice that contains the partitions you are
 -	creating (at this point <application>Disklabel</application> calls
 +	creating (at this point <application>disklabel</application> calls
  	this the <literal>Partition name</literal> rather than slice name).
  	This display also shows the amount of free space within the slice;
  	that is, space that was set aside in the slice, but that has not yet
 @@ -2355,7 +2355,7 @@
  	filesystem.</para>
  
        <para>The bottom third of the screen shows the keystrokes that are valid
 -	in <application>Disklabel</application>.</para>
 +	in <application>disklabel</application>.</para>
  
        <figure id="sysinstall-label">
  	<title>Sysinstall Disklabel Editor</title>
 @@ -2367,7 +2367,7 @@
  	</mediaobject>
        </figure>
  
 -      <para><application>Disklabel</application> can automatically create
 +      <para>The utility <application>disklabel</application> can automatically create
  	partitions for you and assign them default sizes.  Try this now, by
  	Pressing <keycap>A</keycap>.  You will see a display similar to that
  	shown in <xref linkend="sysinstall-label2">.  Depending on the size of
 @@ -2454,7 +2454,7 @@
        </figure>
        
        <para>Finally, because you are creating a filesystem, you must tell
 -	<application>Disklabel</application> where the filesystem is to be
 +	<application>disklabel</application> where the filesystem is to be
  	mounted.  The dialog box is shown in 
  	<xref linkend="sysinstall-label-mount">.  The root filesystem's mount
  	point is <filename>/</filename>, so type <userinput>/</userinput>, and
 @@ -4660,23 +4660,23 @@
  	  <answer>
  	    <para>If your machine is already running MS-DOS and has little
  	      or no free space available for the FreeBSD installation, all
 -	      hope is not lost!  You may find the <application>FIPS</application>
 +	      hope is not lost!  You may find the <application>fips</application>
  	      utility, provided
  	      in the <filename>tools</filename> directory on the FreeBSD
  	      CDROM or various FreeBSD FTP sites to be quite
  	      useful.</para>
  
  	    <indexterm>
 -	      <primary><command>FIPS</command></primary>
 +	      <primary><command>fips</command></primary>
  	    </indexterm>
 -	    <para><application>FIPS</application> allows you to split an
 +	    <para>The utility <application>fips</application> allows you to split an
  	      existing MS-DOS partition into two pieces, preserving the
  	      original partition and allowing you to install onto the second
  	      free piece.  You first defragment your MS-DOS partition using
 -	      the Windows <application>DEFRAG</application> utility (go into
 +	      the Windows <application>defrag</application> utility (go into
  	      Explorer, right-click on the hard drive, and choose to defrag
 -	      your hard drive), or Norton Disk Tools. You then must run
 -	      <application>FIPS</application>.  It will prompt you for the
 +	      your hard drive), or <application>Norton Disk Tools</application>. You then must run
 +	      <application>fips</application>.  It will prompt you for the
  	      rest of the information it needs.  Afterwards, you can reboot
  	      and install FreeBSD on the new free slice.  See the
  	      <emphasis>Distributions</emphasis> menu for an estimate of how
 @@ -4690,10 +4690,10 @@
  	      from <ulink url="http://www.powerquest.com/">PowerQuest</ulink>
  	      called <application>Partition Magic</application>. This
  	      application has far more functionality than
 -	      <application>FIPS</application>, and is highly recommended if
 +	      <application>fips</application>, and is highly recommended if
  	      you plan to often add/remove operating systems (like me).
  	      However, it does cost money, and if you plan to install FreeBSD
 -	      once and then leave it there, <application>FIPS</application>
 +	      once and then leave it there, <application>fips</application>
  	      will probably be fine for you.</para>
  	  </answer>
  	</qandaentry>
 @@ -4706,8 +4706,8 @@
  
  	  <answer>
  	    <para>No.  If you are using a utility such as
 -	      <trademark class="trade">Stacker</trademark> or
 -	      <trademark class="trade">DoubleSpace</trademark>, FreeBSD
 +	      <trademark class="trade"><application>Stacker</application></trademark> or
 +	      <trademark class="trade"><application>DoubleSpace</application></trademark>, FreeBSD
  	      will only be able to use whatever portion of the filesystem
  	      you leave uncompressed.  The rest of the filesystem will
  	      show up as one large file (the stacked/double spaced file!).
 @@ -5001,7 +5001,7 @@
  
      <para>There may be some situations in which you need to create your own
        FreeBSD installation media and/or source.  This might be physical media,
 -      such as a tape, or a source that <application>Sysinstall</application>
 +      such as a tape, or a source that <application>sysinstall</application>
        can use to retrieve the files, such as a local FTP site, or an MS-DOS
        partition.  For example:</para>
  
 diff -ruN handbook.org/l10n/chapter.sgml handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml
 --- handbook.org/l10n/chapter.sgml	Wed Mar 27 02:16:54 2002
 +++ handbook/l10n/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 12:00:51 2002
 @@ -470,7 +470,7 @@
        <para>Also be sure to set the correct keymap and screenmap for your
  	single C chars character set through
  	<filename>/stand/sysinstall</filename>.
 -	Once inside sysinstall, choose <literal>Configure</literal>, then
 +	Once inside <application>sysinstall</application>, choose <literal>Configure</literal>, then
  	<literal>Console</literal>.  Alternatively, you can add the
  	following to <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>:</para>
  
 diff -ruN handbook.org/ports/chapter.sgml handbook/ports/chapter.sgml
 --- handbook.org/ports/chapter.sgml	Sat May  4 17:20:00 2002
 +++ handbook/ports/chapter.sgml	Sun May 26 12:03:08 2002
 @@ -451,7 +451,7 @@
        </para>
  
        <para>When installing your FreeBSD system,
 -	<application>Sysinstall</application> asked if you would like to
 +	<application>sysinstall</application> asked if you would like to
  	install the ports collection.  If you chose no, you can follow
  	these instructions to obtain the ports collection.</para>
  
 
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On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:52:10AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2002-05-25 14:12, Hiten Pandya wrote:
> > --- Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > > this is a known problem with the online documentation.  The links will
> > > always work as expected (or at least they should), if you access the
> > > Handbook at the alternative address:
> >
> > This gives me an idea.  How about making a document which has a list of
> > problems which we are currently tackling.  It doesnt only have to be for
> > docs@, but can have www@, the others if they agree.
> 
> Isn't that what Gnats is all about?  I mean, do we need yet another
> list of problem reports, when we already have one?  I have to admit
> that users of FreeBSD who do not have the time for a 5-10 minute
> search in Gnats are right in their own respectful lack of time, but in
> my opinion we don't need to duplicate what Gnats does already.

As far as I know, there isn't actually a PR open for this issue.

However, I think I'm the only person who's been working on fixing this,
so if someone would like to create one and assign it to me, please do.

My patches are nearly ready and working, but not quite there yet.
If they were, then I wouldn't commit them yet anyway, as we're in "doc slush"
or whatever you want to call it.

Ceri

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>Number:         38571
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       A typo in cvsup-advanced article
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun May 26 05:00:05 PDT 2002
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
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System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
A typo in cvsup-advanced article. Read the patch below for more details.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml
	

--- article.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- article.sgml.org	Sun May 26 13:50:18 2002
+++ article.sgml	Sun May 26 13:50:42 2002
@@ -256,7 +256,7 @@
 
          <para>If you have been reading the apparently nit-picking 
 	   remarks in these sections, you will probably have recognized 
-	   the potential for scr^Wtrouble in a source updating process. 
+	   the potential for trouble in a source updating process. 
 	   A number of people have actually run into problems. You have
 	   been warned. :-)</para>
       </sect2>
--- article.sgml.diff ends here ---


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--- Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> wrote:
> However, I think I'm the only person who's been working on fixing this,
> so if someone would like to create one and assign it to me, please do.

Sorry to sound blunt, but why can't you create PR and assign it to yourself?

> My patches are nearly ready and working, but not quite there yet.
> If they were, then I wouldn't commit them yet anyway, as we're in "doc
> slush" or whatever you want to call it.

Regards.

  -- Hiten Pandya
  -- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>, <hiten@xMach.org>


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The following reply was made to PR docs/38571; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>
To: Marc Fonvieille <marc@blackend.org>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/38571: A typo in cvsup-advanced article
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:01:32 +0200 (CEST)

 Marc Fonvieille <marc@blackend.org> wrote: 
 
 [...]
 	
 >Description:
 A typo in cvsup-advanced article. Read the patch below for more details.
 
 [...]	
 
 --- article.sgml.diff begins here ---
 --- article.sgml.org	Sun May 26 13:50:18 2002
 +++ article.sgml	Sun May 26 13:50:42 2002
 @@ -256,7 +256,7 @@
  
           <para>If you have been reading the apparently nit-picking 
  	   remarks in these sections, you will probably have recognized 
 -	   the potential for scr^Wtrouble in a source updating process. 
 +	   the potential for trouble in a source updating process. 
  	   A number of people have actually run into problems. You have
  	   been warned. :-)</para>
        </sect2>
 --- article.sgml.diff ends here ---
 
 
 
 Hello Marc,
 
 I am the author of the article -- in person if I may say so :-)
 
 As far as the 'typo' is concerned, I did it on purpose: I actually meant to 
 reproduce a 'Freudian' lapsus (lapsus calami), i.e. reproduce the process of 
 writing something and then making corrections (^W: delete a word).  By the 
 way, another such 'device' is e.g. ^H to mean you are deleting a letter.
 
 If the Documentation Project deems this, er, 'stylistic' device acceptable 
 (for current standards of formality), there will be no need to remove it.  On 
 the other hand, if it sounds too informal, then let it be removed.
 
 Best regards,
 Salvo

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On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 05:06:59AM -0700, Hiten Pandya wrote:
> --- Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> wrote:
> > However, I think I'm the only person who's been working on fixing this,
> > so if someone would like to create one and assign it to me, please do.
> 
> Sorry to sound blunt, but why can't you create PR and assign it to yourself?

No reason at all, but I'm not having an argument regarding tracking stuff.

Ceri

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The following reply was made to PR docs/38571; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Marc Fonvieille <marc@blackend.org>
To: Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>
Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/38571: A typo in cvsup-advanced article
Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:20:47 +0200

 On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 05:01:32PM +0200, Salvo Bartolotta wrote:
 > As far as the 'typo' is concerned, I did it on purpose: I actually meant to 
 > reproduce a 'Freudian' lapsus (lapsus calami), i.e. reproduce the process of 
 > writing something and then making corrections (^W: delete a word).  By the 
 > way, another such 'device' is e.g. ^H to mean you are deleting a letter.
 > 
 > If the Documentation Project deems this, er, 'stylistic' device acceptable 
 > (for current standards of formality), there will be no need to remove it.  On 
 > the other hand, if it sounds too informal, then let it be removed.
 > 
 
 I was *1000 miles away* from thinking it was a normal typo :))
 
 I'm currently translating the article in french, i will remove the lapsus
 cause it's difficult to write/display it efficiently. Maybe in an irc
 way like "scre** err trouble, i mean" but it's not really good.
 
 Btw i will submit a PR about s/eg/e.g. and some quote tags addition
 etc...
 
 Cheers,
 Marc

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>Number:         38574
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       CPUTYPE is not documented in make.conf
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Arrival-Date:   Sun May 26 08:50:02 PDT 2002
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>Originator:     Sebastien Gioria
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
>Organization:
FreeBSD.ORG
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System: FreeBSD bushmills.intra.thorm.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Sat May 25 22:59:29 CEST 2002 root@bushmills.intra.thorm.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/bushmills i386


>Description:
the variable CPUTYPE is not documented in the make.conf manual page

>How-To-Repeat:
read make.conf manual page
>Fix:
According to release notes :

    The new CPUTYPE variable in make.conf controls the compilation
    of processor-specific optimizations in various pieces of code such
    as OpenSSL.

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>Number:         38577
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       French translation of cvsup-advanced article
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          update
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sun May 26 11:20:02 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
French translation of cvsup-advanced article.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to fr_FR.ISO8859-1/articles
	

--- articles.diff begins here ---
diff -ruN articles.org/Makefile articles/Makefile
--- articles.org/Makefile	Sun May 26 11:42:39 2002
+++ articles/Makefile	Sun May 26 20:08:48 2002
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@
 SUBDIR+= laptop
 SUBDIR+= pxe
 SUBDIR+= pr-guidelines
+SUBDIR+= cvsup-advanced
 
 ROOT_SYMLINKS+= new-users
 
diff -ruN articles.org/cvsup-advanced/Makefile articles/cvsup-advanced/Makefile
--- articles.org/cvsup-advanced/Makefile	Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ articles/cvsup-advanced/Makefile	Sun May 26 13:26:46 2002
@@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
+#                                                                               
+#    The FreeBSD Documentation Project                                          
+#    The FreeBSD French Documentation Project                                   
+#                                                                               
+#    $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvsup-advanced/Makefile,v 1.1 2001/10/10 21:38:30 murray Exp $
+#    Original revision: 1.1                                                     
+
+DOC?= article
+
+FORMATS?= html
+
+INSTALL_COMPRESSED?=gz
+INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED?=
+
+JADEFLAGS+=	-V %generate-article-toc%
+
+SRCS= article.sgml
+
+DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../..
+
+.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk"
diff -ruN articles.org/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml
--- articles.org/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml	Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml	Sun May 26 20:07:29 2002
@@ -0,0 +1,336 @@
+<!--
+      The FreeBSD Documentation Project
+      The FreeBSD French Documentation Project
+      
+      $FreeBSD$
+      $Id$
+      Original revision: 1.4
+-->
+
+<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V4.1-Based Extension//EN" [
+<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN">
+%man;
+<!ENTITY % abstract PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Abstract Entities//FR"> %abstract;
+<!ENTITY % artheader PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook ArtHeader Entities//FR"> %artheader;
+<!ENTITY % translators PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Translator Entities//FR"> %translators;
+<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN"> %man;
+]>
+
+<article>
+  <articleinfo>
+    <title>Utilisation avanc&eacute;e de cvsup</title>
+
+    <authorgroup>
+      <author>
+	<firstname>Salvo</firstname>
+	<surname>Bartolotta</surname>
+
+	<affiliation>
+	  <address><email>bartequi@neomedia.it</email></address>
+	</affiliation>
+      </author>
+    </authorgroup>
+
+    <pubdate>$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml,v 1.4 2001/10/23 21:31:18 murray Exp $</pubdate>
+
+    <abstract>
+      <para>Le pr&eacute;sent article suppose une compr&eacute;hension 
+	de base de l'utilisation de <application>cvsup</application>.  
+	Il expose plusieurs probl&egrave;mes d&eacute;licats  
+        li&eacute;s &agrave; la synchronisation des sources &agrave; 
+	l'aide de <application>cvsup</application>, c'est &agrave;
+	dire des solutions efficaces aux probl&egrave;mes des fichiers
+	obsol&egrave;tes aussi bien qu'aux cas sp&eacute;ciaux de mise 
+	&agrave; jour des sources, ces probl&egrave;mes sont susceptibles 
+	de causer des d&eacute;sagr&eacute;ments apparamment 
+	inexplicables.</para>
+	&abstract.license;
+        &abstract.disclaimer;
+        &trans.a.fonvieille;
+    </abstract>
+  </articleinfo>
+
+  <sect1 id="preface">
+    <title>Pr&eacute;face</title>
+    
+      <para>Ce document est le fruit des tentatives de l'auteur de
+	comprendre les finesses de <application>cvsup</application> et 
+	de la mise &agrave; jour des sources.&nbsp;:-)
+	Bien que l'auteur ait fait de nombreux efforts pour
+	rendre ces pages aussi instructives et correctes que possible,
+	il n'est qu'un &ecirc;tre humain et a pu avoir commis toutes sortes
+	de coquilles, d'erreurs, etc...  Il sera vraiment reconnaissant 
+	pour tous les commentaires et/ou suggestions que vous enverrez 
+	&agrave; son adresse &eacute;lectronique 
+	<email>bartequi@neomedia.it</email>.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+ 
+  <sect1 id="introduction">
+    <title>Introduction</title>
+
+      <para>Si vous avez consult&eacute; le <ulink
+	url="http://www.polstra.com/">site de John Polstra</ulink> et lu
+	sa <ulink
+	url="http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html">FAQ</ulink>,
+	vous avez pu avoir remarqu&eacute; les questions 12 et 13.</para>
+
+      <para>En mettant &agrave; jour n'importe quelle &ldquo;catalogue&rdquo; 
+	- collection de sources (e.g. <filename>/usr/ports</filename>), 
+	&man.cvsup.1; se sert des fichiers de &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; 
+	relatifs afin d'effectuer le processus de mise &agrave; jour de la 
+	mani&egrave;re la plus efficace et la plus correcte possible.  Dans cet 
+	exemple (<filename>/usr/ports</filename>), le fichiers de
+	&ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; relatif est
+	<filename>/usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:.</filename> si votre
+	r&eacute;pertoire de base est <filename>/usr</filename>.</para>
+
+      <para>Un fichier &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; contient l'information
+	sur l'&eacute;tat actuel de vos sources -- d'une certaine 
+	mani&egrave;re, une sorte de &ldquo;photographie&rdquo;.  Cette 
+	information permet &agrave; <application>cvsup</application> de 
+	rechercher les mises &agrave; jour le plus efficacement.  De 
+	plus, et c'est peut-&ecirc;tre plus important, il permet 
+	&agrave; <application>cvsup</application> de g&eacute;rer 
+	correctement vos sources en effa&ccedil;ant localement tout
+	fichier qui n'est plus pr&eacute;sent sur l'archive centrale, 
+	et de ce fait ne pas laisser de fichiers obsol&egrave;tes sur 
+	votre syst&egrave;me.  En fait, sans un fichier 
+	&ldquo;checkouts&rdquo;, <application>cvsup</application> ne
+	saurait PAS de quels fichiers votre catalogue est compos&eacute; 
+	(Cf &man.cvsup.1; pour plus de d&eacute;tails), et en 
+	cons&eacute;quence, il ne pourrait PAS effacer de votre 
+	syst&egrave;me ces fichiers qui ne sont plus pr&eacute;sents sur 
+	l'archive centrale.  Ils resteraient sur votre syst&egrave;me 
+	(les fichiers obsol&egrave;tes), et pourraient vous causer de 
+	subtiles &eacute;checs de compilation ou tout autre 
+	d&eacute;sagr&eacute;ment.  Par exemple, ce probl&egrave;me est 
+	susceptible de se produire si vous mettez &agrave; jour votre 
+	catalogue de logiciels port&eacute;s plusieurs semaines 
+	apr&egrave;s que vous ayez eu vos CDROMs d'installation.</para>
+
+     <para>Il est donc recommand&eacute; que vous adoptiez la 
+       proc&eacute;dure en deux temps d&eacute;crite dans la FAQ de 
+       CVSup (Cf Q12, Q13); dans les sections suivantes, on vous 
+       pr&eacute;sentera des exemples concrets int&eacute;ressant et 
+       instructifs.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1 id="script">
+    <title>Une proc&eacute;dure python utile: cvsupchk</title>
+
+      <para>Alternativement, afin d'examiner les sources pour les
+	inconsistences, vous pouvez souhaiter utiliser la proc&eacute;dure
+	python <application>cvsupchk</application>, proc&eacute;dure qui se 
+	trouve actuellement dans
+	<filename>/usr/ports/net/cvsup/work/cvsup-16.1/contrib/cvsupchk</filename>,
+	avec un sympathique <filename>README</filename>.
+	Pr&eacute;requis:</para>
+
+        <orderedlist>
+           <listitem>
+             <para><literal>/usr/ports/net/cvsup</literal> &prompt.root;
+<userinput> make extract</userinput></para>
+           </listitem>
+
+           <listitem>
+             <para>python (que l'on trouve &eacute;galement dans le catalogue
+	       des logiciels port&eacute;s :-)).</para>
+           </listitem>
+
+           <listitem>
+             <para>Un fichier &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; pour votre
+	       catalogue des sources.</para>
+           </listitem>
+         </orderedlist>
+
+      <para>Si vous mettez &agrave; jour vos sources pour la toute 
+	premi&egrave;re fois, naturellement vous n'avez pas de fichier
+	&ldquo;checkouts&rdquo;.  Apr&egrave;s l'installation de python 
+	et la mise &agrave; jour de vos sources (e.g.
+	<filename>/usr/ports</filename>), vous pouvez les v&eacute;rifier
+	ainsi:</para>
+
+        <screen>&prompt.user; <filename>/path/to/</filename><userinput>cvsupchk -d /usr -c /usr/sup/ports-all/checkouts.cvs:. | more</userinput></screen>
+
+      <para>Si vous d&eacute;sirez v&eacute;rifier vos sources RELENG_4:</para>
+
+        <screen>&prompt.user; <filename>/path/to/</filename><userinput>cvsupchk -d /usr -c /usr/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4 | more</userinput></screen>
+
+      <para>Dans chaque cas, <application>cvsupchk</application> 
+	inspectera vos sources &agrave; la
+	recherche d'inconsistences en utilisant les informations
+	contenues dans le fichier de &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; relatif.
+	Des anomalies comme des fichiers effac&eacute;s, encore 
+	pr&eacute;sents (aka fichiers obsol&egrave;tes), fichiers 
+	r&eacute;cup&eacute;r&eacute;s absents, fichiers RCS
+	suppl&eacute;mentaires, et r&eacute;pertoires vides seront 
+	affich&eacute;s sur la sortie standard.</para>
+
+      <para>Dans la section suivante, nous pr&eacute;senterons des exemples
+	typiques de la mise &agrave; jour de source, exemples qui vous
+	montreront le r&ocirc;le des fichiers de &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; 
+	et les dangers d'une gestion n&eacute;glig&eacute;e des sources.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1 id="examples">
+    <title>Exemples avanc&eacute;s de gestion des sources</title>
+
+      <sect2>
+        <title>Comment modifier sans risques le champ tag quand vous
+	  mettez &agrave; jour <literal>src-all</literal></title>
+
+        <para>Si vous sp&eacute;cifiez par exemple <literal>tag=A</literal>
+	  dans votre fichier <filename>supfile</filename>,
+	  <application>cvsup</application> cr&eacute;era
+	  un fichier &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; appel&eacute;
+	  <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename>, par exemple avec le
+	  champ <literal>tag=RELENG_4</literal>, un fichier de
+	  &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo;
+	  <filename>checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4</filename> est 
+	  g&eacute;n&eacute;r&eacute;.  Ce fichier sera utilis&eacute; 
+	  pour r&eacute;cup&eacute;rer et/ou stocker
+	  l'information identifiant vos sources 4-STABLE.</para>
+
+         <para>En suivant le catalogue <literal>src-all</literal>, si
+	   vous souhaitez passer de <literal>tag=A</literal> &agrave;
+	   <literal>tag=B</literal> (A inf&eacute;rieur/sup&eacute;rieur 
+	   &agrave; B important peu) et si votre fichier 
+	   &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; est
+	   <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename>, les op&eacute;rations
+	   suivantes devront &ecirc;tre effectu&eacute;es:</para>
+
+            <orderedlist>
+              <listitem>
+                <para>&prompt.root; <userinput>mv checkouts.cvs:A
+checkouts.cvs:B</userinput>
+                  (ceci fournit &agrave; l'&eacute;tape suivante le fichier
+		  &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; appropri&eacute;)</para>
+              </listitem>
+
+              <listitem>
+                <para>Ecrivez un fichier <filename>supfile</filename>
+		  dont la ligne d&eacute;signant le catalogue est:</para>
+                  <programlisting>src-all tag=B</programlisting>
+              </listitem>
+
+              <listitem>
+                <para>Cvsupez vos sources en utilisant le nouveau
+		<filename>supfile</filename>.</para>
+              </listitem>
+            </orderedlist>
+
+         <para>Cvsup recherchera <filename>checkouts.cvs:B</filename> 
+	   -- dans ce cas la cible est B, c'est &agrave; dire que
+	   <application>cvsup</application> se 
+	   servira des informations contenus dans ce fichier pour g&eacute;rer
+	   correctement vos sources.</para>
+
+         <para>Les avantages:</para>
+
+           <itemizedlist>
+              <listitem>
+                <para>Les sources sont trait&eacute;es correctement (en
+		  particulier aucun fichiers obsol&egrave;tes).</para>
+              </listitem>
+
+              <listitem>
+                <para>Moins de charge sur le serveur, dans ce cas
+		<application>cvsup</application>
+		  agit de la mani&egrave;re la plus efficace.</para>
+              </listitem>
+           </itemizedlist>
+
+
+         <para>Par exemple, <literal>A=RELENG_4</literal>,
+	   <literal>B=.</literal>, le point dans <literal>B=.</literal>
+	   signifie -CURRENT.  C'est une mise &agrave; jour plut&ocirc;t 
+	   typique de la branche 4-STABLE vers la branche -CURRENT.  
+	   Alors qu'il est simple de revenir &agrave; une ancienne 
+	   version de sources (e.g. -CURRENT vers -STABLE), il n'en va 
+	   pas de m&ecirc;me avec le syst&egrave;me.  Vous &ecirc;tes 
+	   FORTEMENT d&eacute;conseill&eacute; de tenter une telle
+	   op&eacute;ration, &agrave; moins que vous ne sachiez 
+	   exactement ce que vous faites.</para>
+       </sect2>
+
+       <sect2>
+         <title>Mettre &agrave; jour en conservant le m&ecirc;me champ 
+	   tag mais pour une date diff&eacute;rente</title>
+
+         <para>Si vous souhaitez basculer du champ <literal>tag=A</literal> 
+	   au champ <literal>tag=A</literal> avec une date GMT
+	   diff&eacute;rente (disons <literal>date=D</literal>) vous 
+	   ex&eacute;cuterez ce qui suit:</para>
+
+           <orderedlist>
+             <listitem>
+               <para>Ecrivez un <filename>supfile</filename> dont la
+		 ligne d&eacute;signant le catalogue est:</para>
+                 <programlisting>src-all tag=A date=D</programlisting>
+             </listitem>
+
+             <listitem>
+               <para>Mettez &agrave; jour vos sources en utilisant le nouveau
+		 <filename>supfile</filename>.</para>
+             </listitem>
+           </orderedlist>
+
+         <para>Que la nouvelle date pr&eacute;c&egrave;de ou non celle 
+	   de la derni&egrave;re synchronisation avec le champ 
+	   <literal>tag=A</literal> est peu important.  Par exemple, 
+	   afin d'indiquer la date du &ldquo;27 Ao&ucirc;t 2000 &agrave; 
+	   10h00s00 GMT&rdquo; vous &eacute;crirez la ligne:</para>
+
+
+         <programlisting>src-all tag=RELENG_4 date=2000.08.27.10.00.00</programlisting>
+
+         <note><para>Le format de la date est rigide.  Vous devez
+	   indiquer toutes les composantes de la date: le si&egrave;cle 
+	   (20, i.e. le vingti&egrave;me si&egrave;cle, doit &ecirc;tre 
+	   fourni tandis que 19, le si&egrave;cle pass&eacute; peut 
+	   &ecirc;tre omis), l'ann&eacute;e, le mois, le jour, l'heure, 
+	   les minutes et les secondes -- comme montr&eacute; dans
+	   l'exemple ci-dessus.  Pour plus d'information, veuillez
+	   consulter la page de manuel &man.cvsup.1;.</para></note>
+
+         <para>Qu'une date soit sp&eacute;cifi&eacute;e ou non, le fichier
+	   &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; est appel&eacute;
+	   <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename> (e.g.
+	   <filename>checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4</filename>).  Comme
+	   cons&eacute;quence, aucune action particuli&egrave;re n'est 
+	   n&eacute;cessaire afin de retourner &agrave; l'&eacute;tat 
+	   pr&eacute;c&eacute;dent: vous devez modifier la date
+	   dans le <filename>supfile</filename> et remettre &agrave; 
+	   jour &agrave; nouveau.</para>
+       </sect2>
+
+
+       <sect2>
+         <title>Mise &agrave; jour de votre catalogue des logiciels 
+	   port&eacute;s pour la premi&egrave;re fois</title>
+
+         <para>Comme les logiciels port&eacute;s sont 
+	   &eacute;tiquet&eacute;s &ldquo;.&rdquo; (i.e. -CURRENT), 
+	   vous pouvez correctement les synchroniser en
+	   ajoutant le mot-cl&eacute; <literal>date</literal> (Cf 
+	   &man.cvsup.1; pour le format exact), vous devriez 
+	   sp&eacute;cifier une date aussi proche que possible que celle 
+	   de &ldquo;l'exp&eacute;dition&rdquo; de votre catalogue de 
+	   logiciel port&eacute;.  Apr&egrave;s que cvsup ait
+	   cr&eacute;e le fichier &ldquo;checkouts&rdquo; du catalogue des
+	   logiciels port&eacute;s, qui est pr&eacute;cis&eacute;ment le 
+	   but de cette premi&egrave;re op&eacute;ration de synchronisation, 
+	   le champ <literal>date</literal> doit &ecirc;tre retir&eacute;, 
+	   toutes les mises &agrave; jour suivantes seront faites en 
+	   douceur.</para>
+
+         <para>Si vous avez voulu chercher la petite b&ecirc;te dans ce texte,
+	   vous vous &ecirc;tes probablement aper&ccedil;u des 
+	   probl&egrave;mes potentiels du processus de mise &agrave; jour des 
+	   sources.  Un certain nombre de personnes ont eu r&eacute;ellement 
+	   des probl&egrave;mes.  Vous avez &eacute;t&eacute;
+	   avertis. :-)</para>
+      </sect2>
+   </sect1>
+</article>
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I have a proposed solution for this PR: =20
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Ddocs/32578=20

Instead of saying "Run a huge variety of applications", how about "A huge=
=20
number of applications"? =20

With five different people in the PR audit trail -- and knowing the froth=
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grammatical madness that underlies the genteel tone of the freebsd-doc li=
st=20
:) -- I assume that I missed an exciting discussion about this particular=
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(And, at the moment, I'm too lazy to search the archives so I could be=20
wrong).

Hopefully this will work for everyone.

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-             <h2><font color=3D"#990000">Run a huge variety of
+             <h2><font color=3D"#990000">A huge number of
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On 2002-05-26 11:13, Francois Kritzinger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've found a grammar error in the Handbook.
> In section 5.2.3, entitled "The Window Manager", paragraph 2, line 2, it reads:
> 
> 	"what keystrokes to should use to move between windows"
> 
> I just CVSup'ed my docs too, so this should still be there.

I have reworded that part to look a bit better ;)
It should shortly appear on the web site.
The revision that changed was 1.81 of file
doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11/chapter.sgml

You can check out the changes at:
http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11/chapter.sgml

> P.S. I hope this is the right place to send this sort of message to.

Yep.  Right place.
Thanks for letting us know.

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Synopsis: A typo in cvsup-advanced article

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Committed in revision 1.5 of file
doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml

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Hi,

a 'make install' in /usr/doc fails due to an error while installing the japanese manpages:

===> ja_JP.eucJP/man
===> ja_JP.eucJP/man/man1
install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 a2p.1.gz  /usr/share/man/ja/man1
install: a2p.1.gz: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71

Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man/man1.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/ja_JP.eucJP.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc.

Greets,
Christian

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Hi Christian,

"make all install" instead of "make install" should work.

It seems for me that it is the behavior of bsd.prog.mk, used by
Makefiles under doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man.
--
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Christian Brueffer <chris@unixpages.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> a 'make install' in /usr/doc fails due to an error while installing the japanese manpages:

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On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:05:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> According to the 4.6 release engineering schedule...
>=20
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html
>=20
> ...the doc tree is scheduled to be tagged around 27 May 2002.  This is
> possibly subject to change, since Nik is (I think) still traveling. =20

Got back (very) early yesterday.  Still getting over the jet lag, but I
still plan on putting down the tag tomorrow.

> At the last BSDCon, some of us talked about a voluntary doc slush to make
> life easier for the translation teams, which would last around a week or
> so.  Nothing has been officially sanctioned, but we're almost at that
> week (yes, it sort of crept up on us).

Good point.

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In article <878z6ayvrh.fsf@boggy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp>
NAKAJI Hiroyuki <nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp> writes:

> At first, a directory en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/pc98 is added and
> common/dev.sgml is updated to include devices available for
> FreeBSD(98).
> 
> A diff from /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware is available at
> http://www.rc.tutrp.tut.ac.jp/~nakaji/FreeBSD/pc98/hardware.diff.gz

I have updated this patch, and added a relnote for pc98.
http://home.jp.freebsd.org/~nyan/patches/doc-pc98.diff.gz

If it has no problem, I will commit it.
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On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:58:00PM -0700, keramida@freebsd.org wrote:
> Synopsis: Wrong link to top logo on Russian WWW (data/ru/index.html)
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback
> State-Changed-By: keramida
> State-Changed-When: Sat May 25 15:56:50 PDT 2002
> State-Changed-Why: 
> Try building the web site mirror as described at
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/the-website.html
> 
> Does the problem still persist, then?

It has to deal with www-current cvsup collection that I fetch, that is, no
docbook builds take place.  The problem with the Russian version is that
the entire gifs/ directory seems to be missing.  It's actually
should be fixed in FreeBSD Russian Documentaion Project (which I'm a
member of ;-) repository, and merged in with next major doc update.

I don't think there is any point to keep this PR open, I should not had
been send-pr(1)ing it in the first time anyway ;-)

./danfe


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>Number:         38603
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Tags addition and minor changes to cvsup-advanced article
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>Description:
Tags addition and minor changes to cvsup-advanced article:

- the software package CVSup should be tagged as an application
- the command cvsup should be tagged as a command
- quote tags should be used instead of ""
- a script should be tagged as a command
- supfile should be tagged as a filename
- all supfile's tag fields should be in literal
- no punctuation in a title

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--- article.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- article.sgml.orig	Sun May 26 23:45:41 2002
+++ article.sgml	Mon May 27 11:17:32 2002
@@ -25,9 +25,9 @@
     <pubdate>$FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/cvsup-advanced/article.sgml,v 1.5 2002/05/26 21:45:41 keramida Exp $</pubdate>
 
     <abstract>
-      <para>The present article assumes a basic understanding of CVSup
+      <para>The present article assumes a basic understanding of <application>CVSup</application>
         operation. It documents several delicate issues connected with 
-	source synchronization via CVSup, viz. effective solutions to
+	source synchronization via <application>CVSup</application>, viz. effective solutions to
 	the problem of stale files as well as special source updating
 	cases; which issues are likely to cause apparently inexplicable
 	troubles.</para>
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
     <title>Preface</title>
     
       <para>This document is the fruit of the author's attempts to    
-	fully understand the niceties of cvsup &amp; source updating.&nbsp;:-)
+	fully understand the niceties of <command>cvsup</command> &amp; source updating.&nbsp;:-)
 	While the author has made every effort to make these pages 
         as informative and correct as possible, he is only human and 
 	may have made all sorts of typos, mistakes, etc.  He will be
@@ -66,12 +66,12 @@
         your base is <filename>/usr</filename>.</para>
 
       <para>A checkouts file contains information on the current status
-	of your sources -- in a way, a sort of "photograph". This 
-	significant information enables cvsup to retrieve updates most
-	effectively. Further, and maybe more important, it enables cvsup
+	of your sources -- in a way, a sort of <quote>photograph</quote>. This 
+	significant information enables <command>cvsup</command> to retrieve updates most
+	effectively. Further, and maybe more important, it enables <command>cvsup</command>
 	to correctly manage your sources by locally deleting any files
 	no longer present in the repository, thus leaving no stale files
-	on your system. In fact, without a checkouts file, cvsup would 
+	on your system. In fact, without a checkouts file, <command>cvsup</command> would 
 	NOT know which files your collection was composed of (cf
         &man.cvsup.1; and the fallback method for details); as a result,
 	it could NOT delete on your system those files no longer present
@@ -82,15 +82,15 @@
 	have got(ten) your installation CDs.</para>
 
      <para>It is therefore recommended that you adopt the two-step procedure
-       outlined in the Cvsup FAQ (cf Q12, Q13); in subsequent sections, you
+       outlined in the <application>CVSup</application> FAQ (cf Q12, Q13); in subsequent sections, you
        will be given interesting and instructive concrete examples.</para>
   </sect1>
 
   <sect1 id="script">
-    <title>A useful python script: cvsupchk</title>
+    <title>A useful python script: <command>cvsupchk</command></title>
 
       <para>Alternatively, in order to examine your sources for 
-	inconsistencies, you may wish to utilize the cvsupchk python 
+	inconsistencies, you may wish to utilize the <command>cvsupchk</command> python 
 	script; which script is currently found in 
 	<filename>/usr/ports/net/cvsup/work/cvsup-16.1/contrib/cvsupchk</filename>,
 	together with a nice <filename>README</filename>. Prerequisites:</para>
@@ -121,7 +121,7 @@
 
         <screen>&prompt.user; <filename>/path/to/</filename><userinput>cvsupchk -d /usr -c /usr/sup/src-all/checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4 | more</userinput></screen>
 
-      <para>In each case, cvsupchk will inspect your sources for 
+      <para>In each case, <command>cvsupchk</command> will inspect your sources for 
 	inconsistencies by utilizing the information contained in the 
 	related checkouts file.  Such anomalies as deleted files being 
 	present (aka stale files), missing checked-out files, extra RCS
@@ -138,17 +138,17 @@
 
       <sect2>
         <title>How to safely change tags when updating
-<literal>src-all.</literal></title>
+<literal>src-all</literal></title>
 
-        <para>If you specify eg tag=A in your supfile, cvsup will create
+        <para>If you specify eg <literal>tag=A</literal> in your <filename>supfile</filename>, <command>cvsup</command> will create
 	  a checkouts file called <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename>: 
-	  for instance, if tag=RELENG_4, a checkouts file called
+	  for instance, if <literal>tag=RELENG_4</literal>, a checkouts file called
           <filename>checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4</filename> is generated. 
            This file will be used to retrieve and/or store information
            identifying your 4-STABLE sources.</para>
 
          <para>When tracking <literal>src-all</literal>, if you wish to
-	   pass from tag=A to tag=B (A less/greater than B not making 
+	   pass from <literal>tag=A</literal> to <literal>tag=B</literal> (A less/greater than B not making 
 	   any difference) and if your checkouts file is 
 	   <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename>, the following actions
 	   should be performed:</para>
@@ -162,17 +162,17 @@
               </listitem>
 
               <listitem>
-                <para>write a supfile whose collection line reads:</para>
+                <para>write a <filename>supfile</filename> whose collection line reads:</para>
                   <programlisting>src-all tag=B</programlisting>
               </listitem>
 
               <listitem>
-                <para>cvsup your sources using the new supfile.</para>
+                <para>cvsup your sources using the new <filename>supfile</filename>.</para>
               </listitem>
             </orderedlist>
 
-         <para>Cvsup will look for <filename>checkouts.cvs:B</filename> 
-	   -- in that the target is B; that is, cvsup will make use of 
+         <para>The utility <command>cvsup</command> will look for <filename>checkouts.cvs:B</filename> 
+	   -- in that the target is B; that is, <command>cvsup</command> will make use of 
 	   the information contained therein to correctly manage your 
 	   sources.</para>
 
@@ -185,15 +185,15 @@
               </listitem>
 
               <listitem>
-                <para>less load is placed on the server, in that cvsup 
+                <para>less load is placed on the server, in that <command>cvsup</command> 
 		  operates in the most efficient way.</para>
               </listitem>
            </itemizedlist>
 
 
-         <para>For example, A=RELENG_4, B=.  The period in "B=." means 
+         <para>For example, <literal>A=RELENG_4</literal>, <literal>B=.</literal>.  The period in <literal>B=.</literal> means 
 	   -CURRENT.  This is a rather typical update, from 4-STABLE 
-	   to -CURRENT. While it is straightforward to "downgrade" your 
+	   to -CURRENT. While it is straightforward to <quote>downgrade</quote> your 
 	   sources (eg from -CURRENT to -STABLE), downgrading a system 
 	   is quite another matter. You are STRONGLY advised not to 
 	   attempt such an operation, unless you know exactly what you
@@ -203,24 +203,24 @@
        <sect2>
          <title>Updating to the same tag as of a different date</title>
 
-         <para>If you wish to switch from "tag=A" to "tag=A" as of a 
-	   different GMT date (say, "date=D"), you will execute the 
+         <para>If you wish to switch from <literal>tag=A</literal> to <literal>tag=A</literal> as of a 
+	   different GMT date (say, <literal>date=D</literal>), you will execute the 
 	   following:</para>
 
            <orderedlist>
              <listitem>
-               <para>write a supfile whose collection line reads:</para>
+               <para>write a <filename>supfile</filename> whose collection line reads:</para>
                  <programlisting>src-all tag=A date=D</programlisting>
              </listitem>
 
              <listitem>
-               <para>update your sources using the new supfile</para>
+               <para>update your sources using the new <filename>supfile</filename></para>
              </listitem>
            </orderedlist>
 
          <para>Whether the new date precedes that of the last sync
-	   operation with tag=A or not, it is immaterial. For example, 
-	   in order to specify the date "August 27, 2000, 10:00:00 GMT" 
+	   operation with <literal>tag=A</literal> or not, it is immaterial. For example, 
+	   in order to specify the date <quote>August 27, 2000, 10:00:00 GMT</quote> 
 	   you write the line:</para>
 
 
@@ -237,19 +237,19 @@
 	   is called <filename>checkouts.cvs:A</filename> (eg
            <filename>checkouts.cvs:RELENG_4</filename>). As a result,
 	   no particular action is needed in order to revert to the 
-	   previous state: you have to modify the date in the supfile, 
-	   and csvup again.</para>
+	   previous state: you have to modify the date in the <filename>supfile</filename>, 
+	   and run <command>csvup</command> again.</para>
        </sect2>
 
 
        <sect2>
          <title>Updating your ports collection for the first time</title>
 
-         <para>Since ports are tagged "." (ie -CURRENT), you can 
-	   correctly "sync" them for the first time by adding the date 
+         <para>Since ports are tagged <quote>.</quote> (ie -CURRENT), you can 
+	   correctly <quote>sync</quote> them for the first time by adding the date 
 	   keyword (cf &man.cvsup.1; for the exact format): you should 
-	   specify a date as close as possible to that of "shipping" of 
-	   your ports tree. After cvsup has correctly created the ports 
+	   specify a date as close as possible to that of <quote>shipping</quote> of 
+	   your ports tree. After <command>cvsup</command> has correctly created the ports 
 	   checkouts file, which is precisely the goal of this first 
 	   special sync operation, the date field must be removed;
            all subsequent updates will be carried out smoothly.</para>
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>Number:         38608
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>Synopsis:       DOS install directory must be X:\FreeBSD
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I've had an (unconfirmed) report that the FreeBSD DOS installation
directory *must* be called "freebsd" and must be an immediate
subdirectory of the root directory on the disk.

If this is the case then

    http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-diff-media.html

section 2.13.3 must be updated to reflect this.

    http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/media.c?rev=1.119&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

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>Description:
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>Fix:
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--- article.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- article.sgml.org	Mon May 27 13:21:14 2002
+++ article.sgml	Mon May 27 13:21:50 2002
@@ -101,7 +101,7 @@
   <sect1>
     <title>The Experiment</title>
 
-    <para>Here is the experiment.</para>
+    <para>Here is the experiment:</para>
 
     <procedure>
       <step>
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>Number:         38612
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>Description:
In ipsec-must article IPSec should be IPsec, for example have a look to
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2401.txt, the word used is IPsec not IPSec.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to articles/ipsec-must/article.sgml
	

--- article.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- article.sgml.org	Mon May 27 15:11:34 2002
+++ article.sgml	Mon May 27 15:12:53 2002
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 
 <article>
   <articleinfo>
-    <title>Independent Verification of IPSec Functionality in FreeBSD</title>
+    <title>Independent Verification of IPsec Functionality in FreeBSD</title>
 
     <author>
       <firstname>David</firstname>
--- article.sgml.diff ends here ---


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>Number:         38615
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       In handbook IPSec should be IPsec
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon May 27 06:40:00 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
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>Description:
In handbook IPSec should be IPsec, have a look for example to
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2401.txt where IPsec is used...
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

	

--- handbook.diff begins here ---
diff -ruN handbook.org/preface/preface.sgml handbook/preface/preface.sgml
--- handbook.org/preface/preface.sgml	Mon May 27 11:16:23 2002
+++ handbook/preface/preface.sgml	Mon May 27 15:22:28 2002
@@ -215,7 +215,7 @@
       <term><emphasis>Chapter 10, Security</emphasis></term>
       <listitem>
 	<para>Describes many different tools available to help keep your
-	FreeBSD system secure, including Kerberos, IPSec, OpenSSH, and
+	FreeBSD system secure, including Kerberos, IPsec, OpenSSH, and
 	network firewalls.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>
diff -ruN handbook.org/security/chapter.sgml handbook/security/chapter.sgml
--- handbook.org/security/chapter.sgml	Wed May 22 10:01:01 2002
+++ handbook/security/chapter.sgml	Mon May 27 15:23:00 2002
@@ -62,7 +62,7 @@
       </listitem>
 
       <listitem>
-	<para>How to configure IPSec.</para>
+	<para>How to configure IPsec.</para>
       </listitem>
      
       <listitem>
@@ -2792,7 +2792,7 @@
     </note>
 
     <tip>
-      <para>For other HOWTOs detailing IPSec implementation in
+      <para>For other HOWTOs detailing IPsec implementation in
         FreeBSD, take a look at <ulink
         url="http://www.daemonnews.org/200101/ipsec-howto.html"></ulink>
         and <ulink
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>Number:         38618
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Malloc types can be used with multiple allocations
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon May 27 07:30:02 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Hiten Pandya
>Release:        FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
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>Description:

	The malloc_type argument to the kernel malloc(9), and MALLOC(9)
	calls be used for multiple allocations.  Although this is common
	knowledge when you have experimented with it, but for newbie
	kernel hackers, it would be a good hint.  The delta attached
	below can be used to provide this note.

	Thanks.

	  -- Hiten Pandya
	  -- <hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org>
	  
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:
	Apply the below provided delta.  Otherwise please comment
	in the followup.
	
Index: malloc.9
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man9/malloc.9,v
retrieving revision 1.23
diff -u -r1.23 malloc.9
--- malloc.9	2002/03/18 10:52:09	1.23
+++ malloc.9	2002/05/27 14:18:40
@@ -184,7 +184,7 @@
 The
 .Fa type
 argument is used to perform statistics on memory usage, and for
-basic sanity checks.
+basic sanity checks.  It can be used to identify multiple allocations.
 The statistics can be examined by
 .Sq vmstat -m .
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>Number:         38620
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Committers Guide and CVS
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
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>Description:
I believe 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/misc.html#Q12.3
(that is, "What ``meta'' information should I include in a commit message?")
should be moved from section 12 ("Misc. Questions") to section 3 ("CVS"),
while the part "Dag-Erling C. Smшrgrav <des@FreeBSD.org> also supplied the
following ``mini primer'' for CVS." should be moved back into the Appendix.

Rationale: These days, most people -- and for sure those becoming FreeBSD
committers -- know CVS quite well, while the project-specific information
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Current FreeBSD problem reports

The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users.
These represent problem reports covering all versions including
experimental development code and obsolete releases.

Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
     A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
     The problem is understood and a solution is being sought.

f - feedback
     Further work requires additional information from the
     originator or the community - possibly confirmation of
     the effectiveness of a proposed solution.

p - patched
     A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or
     confirmation from originator) are still open.

s - suspended
     The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information
     or resources.  This is a prime candidate
     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
     A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
     documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned.

Critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2002/03/09] docs/35723  doc      le(4) page doesn't warn about likely syst

1 problem total.

Serious problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
s [2000/07/18] docs/20028  doc      ASCII docs should reflect <emphasis> tags
o [2001/05/23] docs/27605  doc      Cross-document references (<olink>)
o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc      Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han
o [2002/03/06] docs/35620  doc      make release fails in documentation for R
o [2002/03/08] docs/35678  doc      docproj Makefiles for web are broken for 
o [2002/03/09] docs/35724  doc      www; Handbook missing link to important H
o [2002/03/21] docs/36168  doc      -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc
o [2002/04/01] docs/36642  doc      4.5 man page on ipfw new option limit is 
f [2002/04/07] docs/36844  doc      Wrong link to top logo on Russian WWW (da
o [2002/04/12] docs/37029  doc      The translation in Italian language of th
o [2002/05/04] docs/37759  doc      'make libraries' in the Handbook
o [2002/05/06] docs/37791  doc      Screenshots don't show up on paper when p
o [2002/05/19] docs/38289  doc      Update to ata(4) manpage (broken ata tags
o [2002/05/27] docs/38608  doc      DOS install directory must be X:\FreeBSD

14 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S  Submitted   Tracker     Resp.    Description
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o [2000/08/10] docs/20528  doc      sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix.
s [2000/11/01] docs/22470  doc      man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin
o [2001/02/01] docs/24786  doc      missing FILES descriptions in sa(4)
o [2001/04/02] docs/26286  doc      *printf(3) etc should gain format string 
o [2001/04/29] docs/26943  doc      [patch] description of :C modifier is mis
o [2001/05/25] docs/27653  doc      Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME
o [2001/05/26] docs/27654  doc      Update to PR 27653
o [2001/06/30] docs/28555  doc      [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo
o [2001/07/04] docs/28699  doc      strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl
o [2001/07/22] docs/29143  doc      List of man pages that need to be written
o [2001/07/26] docs/29245  doc      top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP
f [2001/08/09] docs/29571  doc      [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct
a [2001/08/23] docs/30008  doc      This document should be translated, comme
o [2001/09/08] docs/30442  doc      remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro
o [2001/09/13] docs/30556  doc      vnconfig man page incorrect; functionalit
o [2001/09/27] docs/30873  doc      ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord
o [2001/10/07] docs/31109  doc      replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat
o [2001/10/09] docs/31164  doc      man page for strftime is incorrect
a [2001/10/14] docs/31271  doc      rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp
o [2001/10/30] docs/31653  doc      Chapter 14 of the Handbook lacks content
o [2001/11/15] docs/32020  doc      loader.8 manpage missing tunables
a [2001/11/16] docs/32041  doc      Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi
o [2001/11/16] docs/32054  doc      inconsistency between index.3 and rindex.
o [2001/12/01] docs/32425  doc      Document cvs update `P file' output
o [2001/12/03] docs/32468  doc      broken link in handbook: sysutils/mkisofs
s [2001/12/07] docs/32578  doc      A _really_ petty change to the front page
o [2001/12/10] docs/32674  doc      no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca
o [2001/12/30] docs/33354  doc      no rsync section in mirror chapter of the
o [2002/01/05] docs/33589  doc      Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .
o [2002/01/13] docs/33852  doc      split(1) man page implies that input file
o [2002/01/14] docs/33877  doc      Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non-
o [2002/01/15] misc/33926  doc      Search function on website can not access
o [2002/02/01] docs/34529  doc      [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and 
o [2002/02/03] docs/34577  doc      Some man pages still advise using "confli
o [2002/02/04] docs/34626  doc      Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pag
o [2002/02/05] docs/34654  doc      Update UIDs for porters handbook
o [2002/02/15] bin/34955   doc      [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit
a [2002/02/16] docs/35011  doc      There are no commands called "diskless" o
o [2002/02/22] docs/35222  doc      mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima
o [2002/02/24] docs/35280  doc      [PATCH] null-modem cable pinout in 'Seria
o [2002/02/26] docs/35343  doc      Old broken Unix docco Makefiles
o [2002/02/27] docs/35378  doc      Handbook has inaccurate description of  f
o [2002/02/28] docs/35436  doc      PAO isn't very latest-and-greatest these 
o [2002/03/03] docs/35523  doc      manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1)
o [2002/03/05] docs/35575  doc      Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l
o [2002/03/06] docs/35602  doc      dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a
o [2002/03/06] docs/35603  doc      grep(1) page is missing info on zfgrep, z
o [2002/03/06] docs/35605  doc      chmod(1) page misleads by use of "regardl
o [2002/03/06] docs/35607  doc      dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er
o [2002/03/06] docs/35608  doc      mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana
o [2002/03/06] docs/35609  doc      mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era
o [2002/03/06] docs/35612  doc      ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me
o [2002/03/07] docs/35642  doc      lo(4) page maybe should document optional
o [2002/03/07] docs/35644  doc      lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin
o [2002/03/07] docs/35646  doc      cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section.
o [2002/03/07] docs/35647  doc      www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi
o [2002/03/07] docs/35648  doc      rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f
o [2002/03/07] docs/35649  doc      mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot.
o [2002/03/07] docs/35652  doc      bsd.README seriously obsolete
o [2002/03/08] docs/35686  doc      blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its
o [2002/03/08] docs/35687  doc      /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers
o [2002/03/08] docs/35696  doc      mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent n
o [2002/03/10] docs/35732  doc      adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an
o [2002/03/12] docs/35823  doc      [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel
o [2002/03/15] docs/35939  doc      ipfw(8) needs explicit statement about no
o [2002/03/15] docs/35941  doc      cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use
o [2002/03/15] docs/35942  doc      at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an
o [2002/03/15] docs/35943  doc      at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/
o [2002/03/15] docs/35953  doc      hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro
o [2002/03/15] docs/35967  doc      rc.conf(5) manual missing "dumpdir" and "
o [2002/03/18] docs/36055  doc      [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to
o [2002/03/28] docs/36432  doc      Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo
o [2002/03/28] docs/36449  doc      symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin
o [2002/03/28] docs/36459  doc      tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description
o [2002/03/28] docs/36464  doc      diff(1) manual doesn't explain "=format".
o [2002/03/29] docs/36524  doc      bad links on handbook index page
o [2002/04/01] docs/36618  doc      [PATCH] Chapter Storage: bad link to mkis
o [2002/04/01] docs/36628  doc      header an footer of openssl manpages are 
o [2002/04/03] docs/36723  doc      IPSec section is unintelligible
o [2002/04/03] docs/36724  doc      ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an
o [2002/04/03] docs/36725  doc      Handbook does not talk about FFS Snapshot
o [2002/04/03] docs/36726  doc      Handbook lacks information about hardware
o [2002/04/03] docs/36728  doc      Handbook does not document VINUM
o [2002/04/03] docs/36729  doc      Handbook does not document non-sendmail M
o [2002/04/06] docs/36837  doc      Handbook lacks information about setting 
o [2002/04/15] docs/37120  doc      Handbook 15.3 needs mention of 3wire
o [2002/04/15] kern/37127  doc      make in /sys/boot/i386/boot2 and in /sys/
o [2002/04/18] docs/37221  doc      obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_
o [2002/04/21] docs/37322  doc      broken link in usb(4) on-line manual
o [2002/04/25] docs/37457  doc      acpi(4) man page references non-existant 
o [2002/04/25] docs/37465  doc      Handbook needs new section
o [2002/04/25] docs/37470  doc      jail field not documented in procfs(5)
o [2002/04/27] docs/37504  doc      The word PC Card should be used instead o
o [2002/04/29] docs/37557  doc      there is no ciss(4) RAID controller man p
o [2002/04/29] docs/37558  doc      there is no iir(4) RAID controller man pa
o [2002/04/29] docs/37559  doc      there is no ida(4) RAID man page
o [2002/05/02] docs/37693  doc      Minor correxion to FreeBSD Porter's Handb
o [2002/05/03] docs/37719  doc      Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page
o [2002/05/07] docs/37843  doc      manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong
o [2002/05/11] docs/37952  doc      Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali
o [2002/05/11] docs/37961  doc      In section 2.9.1 of the Handbook, the dom
o [2002/05/13] docs/38039  doc      [PATCH] Handbook has broken link for snap
p [2002/05/13] docs/38059  doc      Typo in man make.conf
o [2002/05/15] docs/38117  doc      New FAQ entry for memory states
o [2002/05/15] docs/38118  doc      New FAQ entry for amount of free memory
o [2002/05/16] docs/38141  doc      Link to a stale package in the handbook
o [2002/05/17] docs/38188  doc      Missing whitespaces in install chapter of
o [2002/05/18] docs/38225  doc      change "CDROM" to "CD-ROM"
o [2002/05/18] docs/38240  doc      In section 2.9.11 of the Handbook "X-serv
o [2002/05/18] docs/38244  doc      Handbook:outdated links in section 16.6.2
o [2002/05/18] docs/38273  doc      Unclear sentence on <http://www.freebsd.o
o [2002/05/19] docs/38290  doc      small correction for ata(4) manpage
o [2002/05/20] docs/38349  doc      Various problems in section 2.9.14 of the
o [2002/05/21] docs/38400  doc      s/requires that TeX is installed/requires
o [2002/05/22] docs/38426  doc      extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc
o [2002/05/25] docs/38537  doc      In installation chapter of the handbook "
o [2002/05/25] docs/38540  doc      sysinstall application name should be Sys
o [2002/05/25] docs/38556  doc      EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist
o [2002/05/26] docs/38568  doc      Minor improvements to PPPoA section
o [2002/05/26] docs/38574  doc      CPUTYPE is not documented in make.conf
o [2002/05/27] docs/38603  doc      Tags addition and minor changes to cvsup-
o [2002/05/27] docs/38607  doc      A period is used instead of a colon in ip
o [2002/05/27] docs/38612  doc      In ipsec-must article IPSec should be IPs
o [2002/05/27] docs/38615  doc      In handbook IPSec should be IPsec
o [2002/05/27] docs/38618  doc      Malloc types can be used with multiple al
o [2002/05/27] docs/38620  doc      Committers Guide and CVS

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>Synopsis:       IPsec should be used instead of IPSec in relnotes/common/new.sgml
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>Description:
IPsec should be used instead of IPSec in relnotes/common/new.sgml
Have a look, for example, to http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2401.txt, the 
word IPsec is the correct one, not IPSec.
	
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>Fix:
Apply the patch to release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml
	

--- new.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- new.sgml.org	Mon May 27 21:18:03 2002
+++ new.sgml	Mon May 27 21:18:24 2002
@@ -207,7 +207,7 @@
 	the presence of dynamic attachments and detatchments.  Full
 	support for VLANs is also supported.</para>
 
-      <para>A bug in the IPSec processing for IPv4, which caused the
+      <para>A bug in the IPsec processing for IPv4, which caused the
 	inbound SPD checks to be ignored, has been fixed.</para>
 
       <para>A new ng_eiface netgraph module has been added, which
--- new.sgml.diff ends here ---


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> Although I have a few reservations. Cvsup is not to be used
> by absolute beginners, IMO.=20

Anyone used ports/net/cvsupit?  This only gets a brief mention in the
Handbook, and should probably be made more prominent.

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>Number:         38630
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>Description:
	
A programlisting in section 16.2.1.6 looks to me like it ought to be on
two lines rather than one.
>How-To-Repeat:
See http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/userppp.html#USERPPP-FINAL
>Fix:

	

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--- chapter.sgml~	Mon May 27 22:07:17 2002
+++ chapter.sgml	Mon May 27 22:08:05 2002
@@ -1320,7 +1320,8 @@
 	  make sure the <devicename>tun0</devicename> device is added to
 	  the list, otherwise remove it.</para>
 
-	<programlisting>network_interfaces="lo0 tun0" ifconfig_tun0=</programlisting>
+	<programlisting>network_interfaces="lo0 tun0"
+ifconfig_tun0=</programlisting>
 
 	<note>
 	  <para>The <literal>ifconfig_tun0</literal> variable should be
--- chapter.sgml.patch ends here ---


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>Number:         38631
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>Description:
	This updates the notes on CVS commit messages in the Committer's
	Guide by explicitly adding (what is apparently) common wisdom
	concerning references to other committers.

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>Fix:

	Patch below; especially the end of the last chunk of this patch
	should be closely checked for markup issues.

Index: article.sgml
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.125
diff -u -3 -p -r1.125 article.sgml
--- article.sgml	26 May 2002 23:35:19 -0000	1.125
+++ article.sgml	27 May 2002 20:30:13 -0000
@@ -2422,28 +2422,34 @@ cvs add: use 'cvs commit' to add this fi
 		<row>
 		  <entry><literal>Submitted by:</literal></entry>
 		  <entry>The name and e-mail address of the person that
-		    submitted the fix.</entry>
+		    submitted the fix; for committers, just the username on
+		    the FreeBSD cluster.</entry>
 		</row>
 
 		<row>
 		  <entry><literal>Reviewed by:</literal></entry>
 		  <entry>The name and e-mail address of the person or people
-		    that reviewed the change.  If a patch was submitted to a
-		    mailing list for review, and the review was favorable,
-		    then just include the list name.</entry>
+		    that reviewed the change; for committers, just the
+		    username on the FreeBSD cluster. If a patch was
+		    submitted to a mailing list for review, and the review
+		    was favorable, then just include the list name.</entry>
 		</row>
 
 		<row>
 		  <entry><literal>Approved by:</literal></entry>
 		  <entry>The name and e-mail address of the person or people
-		    that approved the change.  It is customary to get prior
-		    approval for a commit if it is to an area of the tree to
-		    which you do not usually commit.  In addition, during the
-		    run up to a new release all commits
-		    <emphasis>must</emphasis> be approved by the release
-		    engineer.  If these are your first commits then you should
-		    have passed them past your mentor first for approval, and
-		    you should list your mentor.</entry>
+		    that approved the change; for committers, just the
+		    username on the FreeBSD cluster. It is customary to get
+		    prior approval for a commit if it is to an area of the
+		    tree to which you do not usually commit.  In addition,
+		    during the run up to a new release all commits
+		    <emphasis>must</emphasis> be approved by the release
+		    engineering team.  If these are your first commits then
+		    you should have passed them past your mentor first, and
+		    you should list your mentor, as in
+		    ``<replaceable>username-of-mentor</replaceable>
+		    <literal>(mentor)</literal>''.
+                 </entry>
 		</row>
 
 		<row>

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Subject: Re: dead link on the FAQ page
From: Wouter Van Hemel <wouter@pair.com>
To: Jannis Tarasidis <Jannis@fgv.tum.de>
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On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 11:07, Jannis Tarasidis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (excuse my bad english)
> 
> theres a problem whith FAQ doc page. When i click on the link
> http://www.freebsd.org/articles/releng/article.html that should forward
> me to the Release Engineering article i get a notice that the page
> doesnt exsists. But the article can be found on the
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html page.
> 

Yes, we know. We are currently trying to come up with a good way to link
these pages to their real location.

Thanks for your report, though.

> Regards
> JT
> 


Kind regards,

  wouter



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Hello,

Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
replies as appropriate.

I just read through the Bootstrapping Vinum article, and found a minor
flaw in the Latin part of the "Vinum History" section (1.4 in rev 1.28).
Still present in CVS rev. 1.7 as of 2002-05-16T01:42:03Z.

It claims that "vino" (of: "in vino veritas") were the accusative form
of "vinum" (the wine), but it isn't. It's the ablative form. As vinum is
neuter, accusative and nominative are identical: vinum.

In context of the preposition "in" these forms mean:

  in + <noun in ablative case>   -> location (where?)
  in + <noun in accusative case> -> direction (where to?)

So may I kindly ask that the Bootstrapping Vinum article be corrected.
Patch against v1.7 doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/vinum/ below, to apply with
"patch -p1". It also corrects that in Latin, words are not usually
capitalized unless at the beginning of the sentence. (At least, so I
have been told at school ;-)

--- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
+++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
@@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
       <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
 	was not derived from it.
 	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
-	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
-	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
-	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
+	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
+	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
+	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
 	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
 	drunkards have a hard time lying.
 	</para>

-- 
Matthias Andree

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Synopsis: IPsec should be used instead of IPSec in relnotes/common/new.sgml

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
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State-Changed-When: Mon May 27 17:18:55 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
Good catch.  I did a search-and-replace sweep over the release 
documentation in HEAD and RELENG_4, this caught a couple other identical
typos.  I fixed all the ones I found...thanks for pointing this out!


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My typo(s).

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38627

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>Number:         38647
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       cvsupit built-in instructions are slightly off
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Mon May 27 21:10:04 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Chris Pepper
>Release:        4.5-RELEASE
>Organization:
Rockefeller University
>Environment:
FreeBSD guest.reppep.com 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 28 14:31:56 GMT 2002     murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC  i386

>Description:
When installing cvsupit (from ports/net/cvsupit on a fresh 4.5-R system, or from <ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz>), the built-in prompting says to press return for all, while I have to actually Tab and then hit Return.
>How-To-Repeat:
Run cvsupit from ports (or ftp site).
>Fix:
Patch:

--- pkg-install Tue May 28 00:06:52 2002
+++ pkg-install.fixed   Tue May 28 00:08:00 2002
@@ -69,8 +69,8 @@
     if dialog --title "Source selection menu" --checklist \
 "
 Please specify which components of /usr/src you are interested in,
-or simply press return for src-all.  If you would like to build
-just the kernel, for example, then select src-sys.
+or simply press Tab and then Return for src-all.  If you would like to build
+just the kernel, for example, select src-sys.
 " -1 -1 10 \
     "src-base"         "Misc files directly under /usr/src" No \
     "src-bin"          "Sources for things in /bin" No \

>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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I downloaded the handbook in pdf format, but the diagrams only appear in 
Acrobat Reader for a fraction of a second before disappearing.  They do 
not appear in the print outs.  When a diagram does appear during that 
brief fraction of a second, it is improperly positioned and improperly 
sized.

I am using Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.0.  Primary system here is a Macintosh 
Titanium G4 laptop with 384Mb of RAM running OS X.  I have also tried 
displaying the handbook on an old 300 Mhz Celeron system with 64Mb of 
Ram and found the same results, again running Acrobat Reader 5.0.

Am I doing something wrong?

-- "Jay"

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Synopsis: sysinstall application name should be Sysinstall with right tags in all the Handbook

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I'll take this one since most are in a doc I wrote.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38540

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Hello !

If you're like me, you've tried EVERYTHING to lose
weight.  I know how you feel - the special diets,
miracle pills, and fancy exercise equipment never helped
me lose a pound either.  It seemed like the harder I tried,
the bigger I got, until I heard about a product called
Extreme Power Plus.

You're probably thinking to yourself, "Oh geez, not another
miracle diet pill!"  Like you, I was skeptical at first, but 
my sister swore it helped her lose 23 pounds in just two weeks, 
so I told her I'd give it a shot.  I mean, there was nothing 
to lose except a lot of weight!  Let me tell you, it was
the best decision I've ever made. Period.  Six months later,
as I'm writing this message to you, I've gone from 355 pounds
to 210 pounds, and I haven't changed my exercise routine or diet
at all.  Yes, I still eat pizza, and lots of it!

I was so happy with the results that I contacted the manufacturer
and got permission to resell it - at a BIG discount.  I want
to help other people lose weight like I did, because it
does so much for your self-esteem, not to mention your health.
I give you my personal pledge that Extreme Power Plus
absolutely WILL WORK FOR YOU.  If it doesn't, you can return it
any time for a full refund.    

If you are frustrated with trying other products, not having 
any success, and just not getting the results you were promised,
then I recommend the only product that worked for me - EXTREME
POWER PLUS.

You're probably asking yourself, "Ok, so how does this stuff
actually work?"

Extreme Power Plus contains Lipotropic fat burners and ephedra which 
is scientifically proven to increase metabolism and cause rapid 
weight loss. No "hocus pocus" in these pills - just RESULTS, RESULTS, 
RESULTS!! 

Here is the bottom line ...

I can help you lose 10-15 pounds per week naturally, without
exercising and without having to eat rice cakes all day.  
Just try it for one month - there's nothing to lose, and everything 
to gain.  You will lose weight fast - GUARANTEED.  That is my
pledge to you.  

To order Extreme Power Plus on our secure server, just click
on the link below:

http://pheromone-labs.com/extremeorderc8.htm

If you have difficulty accessing the website above, please
try our mirror site by clicking on the link below:

http://www.pheromone-labs.com/extremeorderc8.htm

To see what some of our customers have said about this product, 
visit http://pheromone-labs.com/testimonials.htm

To see a list of ingredients and for more information
on test studies and how it will help you lose weight, visit 
http://pheromone-labs.com/howitworks.htm

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                      Dipl. eng. POPOVICIU ADRIAN
                          R  O  M  A  N  I  A
                             May 28, 2002   

 Dear  Sir,
                                                                          
I  learn recently about you from  Internet network.
My name is POPOVICIU ADRIAN. 
I graduated engineering at the electronic and electrotechnic 
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I have more 10 years work experience like tehnical support 
 for instrumentation, computers, office devices and general
 electronic & electrical equipments.
 
I looking to get a new job.    You will find my CV (with photo
  and other abilities)at the address:     
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If you have a job opportunity please send an email at my 
   address: apopovici@keysys.ro
 
I can submit (if it is necessary) very good recommendations.
 
With best greetings
 
 
     Yours sincerely
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                      Dipl. eng. POPOVICIU ADRIAN
                          R  O  M  A  N  I  A
                             May 28, 2002   

 Dear  Sir,
                                                                          
I  learn recently about you from  Internet network.
My name is POPOVICIU ADRIAN. 
I graduated engineering at the electronic and electrotechnic 
 faculty, speciality radioelectronics, in Europe (Bucharest).
I have more 10 years work experience like tehnical support 
 for instrumentation, computers, office devices and general
 electronic & electrical equipments.
 
I looking to get a new job.    You will find my CV (with photo
  and other abilities)at the address:     
               http://a.popoviciu.tripod.com/index.html
 
If you have a job opportunity please send an email at my 
   address: apopovici@keysys.ro
 
I can submit (if it is necessary) very good recommendations.
 
With best greetings
 
 
     Yours sincerely
     Adrian Popoviciu 
 


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Get this guy outta here!

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Subject: I can help you lose weight

Hello !

If you're like me, you've tried EVERYTHING to lose
weight.  I know how you feel - the special diets,
miracle pills, and fancy exercise equipment never helped
me lose a pound either.  It seemed like the harder I tried,
the bigger I got, until I heard about a product called
Extreme Power Plus.

You're probably thinking to yourself, "Oh geez, not another
miracle diet pill!"  Like you, I was skeptical at first, but 
my sister swore it helped her lose 23 pounds in just two weeks, 
so I told her I'd give it a shot.  I mean, there was nothing 
to lose except a lot of weight!  Let me tell you, it was
the best decision I've ever made. Period.  Six months later,
as I'm writing this message to you, I've gone from 355 pounds
to 210 pounds, and I haven't changed my exercise routine or diet
at all.  Yes, I still eat pizza, and lots of it!

I was so happy with the results that I contacted the manufacturer
and got permission to resell it - at a BIG discount.  I want
to help other people lose weight like I did, because it
does so much for your self-esteem, not to mention your health.
I give you my personal pledge that Extreme Power Plus
absolutely WILL WORK FOR YOU.  If it doesn't, you can return it
any time for a full refund.    

If you are frustrated with trying other products, not having 
any success, and just not getting the results you were promised,
then I recommend the only product that worked for me - EXTREME
POWER PLUS.

You're probably asking yourself, "Ok, so how does this stuff
actually work?"

Extreme Power Plus contains Lipotropic fat burners and ephedra which 
is scientifically proven to increase metabolism and cause rapid 
weight loss. No "hocus pocus" in these pills - just RESULTS, RESULTS, 
RESULTS!! 

Here is the bottom line ...

I can help you lose 10-15 pounds per week naturally, without
exercising and without having to eat rice cakes all day.  
Just try it for one month - there's nothing to lose, and everything 
to gain.  You will lose weight fast - GUARANTEED.  That is my
pledge to you.  

To order Extreme Power Plus on our secure server, just click
on the link below:

http://pheromone-labs.com/extremeorderc8.htm

If you have difficulty accessing the website above, please
try our mirror site by clicking on the link below:

http://www.pheromone-labs.com/extremeorderc8.htm

To see what some of our customers have said about this product, 
visit http://pheromone-labs.com/testimonials.htm

To see a list of ingredients and for more information
on test studies and how it will help you lose weight, visit 
http://pheromone-labs.com/howitworks.htm

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On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:23:40PM -0700, Jay Schaffer wrote:
> I downloaded the handbook in pdf format, but the diagrams only appear in=
=20
> Acrobat Reader for a fraction of a second before disappearing.  They do=
=20
> not appear in the print outs.  When a diagram does appear during that=20
> brief fraction of a second, it is improperly positioned and improperly=20
> sized.
>=20
> I am using Adobe Acrobat Reader 5.0.  Primary system here is a Macintosh=
=20
> Titanium G4 laptop with 384Mb of RAM running OS X.  I have also tried=20
> displaying the handbook on an old 300 Mhz Celeron system with 64Mb of=20
> Ram and found the same results, again running Acrobat Reader 5.0.
>=20
> Am I doing something wrong?

No.  I'm working on a fix.

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[ Copied to the release engineering team for information ]

On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 06:42:30PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 09:05:06PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> > According to the 4.6 release engineering schedule...
> >=20
> > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/schedule.html
> >=20
> > ...the doc tree is scheduled to be tagged around 27 May 2002.  This is
> > possibly subject to change, since Nik is (I think) still traveling. =20
>=20
> Got back (very) early yesterday.  Still getting over the jet lag, but I
> still plan on putting down the tag tomorrow.

Which I've just done to a freshly checked out set of docs that build
correctly.

As per normal there will be some last minute tag sliding as various
entities and lists of release tags in the documentation are updated to
refer to 4.6 instead of 4.5.  Per the 4.6 schedule this will be done on
the 30th.

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:
:Get this guy outta here!

    Firstly, Chris, I understand your frustration.  But, please, do *NOT*
    Cc a random ISP ( masterpc@carolina.rr.com ) in email that you also
    send to a FreeBSD list, let alone several FreeBSD lists!

    This particular spammer is operating from 213.96.224.148, which has 
    long been blacklisted not only by spamcop, but by many other 
    DNSbl providers.  See:

	http://relays.osirusoft.com/cgi-bin/rbcheck.cgi

    Personally speaking I think that hub should be running DNSbl.  I recently
    gave up trying to fight every spam coming into my system (50+ pieces
    of email to my main mailbox alone per day, several hundred flowing through
    my system and bothering my friends).  Instead I went through and upgraded
    sendmail to the most recent release and turned on about five DNSbl
    sites as well as added a well known HACK() to disallow relays whos 
    reverse DNS does not resolve.  My mail system now rejects around 350
    emails a day.

    This cut my personal spam down from 50/day to 5/day.  Well, that is
    until some asshole spammer started using my email address as the
    envelope sender for their spams, but that's another story.  Sigh.
    Yet another up-and-coming trend by spammers... using valid envelope
    addresses that are not their own.  At least it's easy to filter,
    and if I ever spend the time to track them down it'll be about $50K in
    damages under california law.  A dangerous game, spammers play.  A
    dangerous game indeed.

						-Matt


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>Number:         38668
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       More s/IPSec/IPsec
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue May 28 11:30:02 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
According to RFCs, IPSec should be IPsec (look at
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2401.txt for example). After my previous PRs
i performed a search on all tree and i found these new *problems*:

-In share/dict/freebsd IPSec should be removed, IPsec is already in that
file.
-In setkey.8 s/IPSec/IPsec

Read the patches below for more details.

We can find *wrong* IPSec in other files, but it's code: in
contrib/ipfilter and in sbin/ping6/ping6.c for example.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

	

--- diff1 begins here ---
--- share/dict/freebsd.org	Tue May 28 20:04:41 2002
+++ share/dict/freebsd	Tue May 28 20:04:57 2002
@@ -37,7 +37,6 @@
 Hotmail
 Hubbard
 IBCS
-IPSec
 IPsec
 IRC
 ISA
--- diff1 ends here ---

--- diff2 begins here ---
--- usr.sbin/setkey/setkey.8.org	Tue May 28 20:05:42 2002
+++ usr.sbin/setkey/setkey.8	Tue May 28 20:05:57 2002
@@ -400,7 +400,7 @@
 (not implemented at this moment).
 We have many protocols in
 .Pa /etc/protocols ,
-but protocols except of TCP, UDP and ICMP may not be suitable to use with IPSec.
+but protocols except of TCP, UDP and ICMP may not be suitable to use with IPsec.
 You have to consider and be careful to use them.
 .Li icmp
 .Li tcp
--- diff2 ends here ---


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>Number:         38669
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Various fixes in recent section 2.9.11 of the Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue May 28 11:50:01 PDT 2002
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
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System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
Various fixes in recent section 2.9.11 of the Handbook. Read the patch
below for more details.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to handbook/install/chapter.sgml
	

--- chapter.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- chapter.sgml.org	Tue May 28 20:30:02 2002
+++ chapter.sgml	Tue May 28 20:37:26 2002
@@ -3682,15 +3682,15 @@
     </sect2>
 
     <sect2 id="x-server">
-      <title>Configure X-Server</title>
+      <title>Configure X Server</title>
 
       <para>In order to use a graphical user interface such as 
 	<application>KDE</application>, <application>GNOME</application>,
 	or others, the X server will need to be configured.</para>
 
       <note>
-	<para>In order to run XFree86 as a non-root user you will need to
-	  install <application>wrapper</application>.  This can be added
+	<para>In order to run XFree86 as a non <username>root</username> user you will need to
+	  install <filename role="package">x11/wrapper</filename>.  This can be added
 	  from the Package Selection menu.</para>
       </note>
 
@@ -3742,7 +3742,7 @@
 	<application>xf86config</application> configuration tool.  The
 	configuration choices you make will depend on the hardware in the
 	system so your choices will probably be different than those
-	shown</para>
+	shown:</para>
 
       <screen>                                Message
  You have configured and been running the mouse daemon. 
@@ -3758,7 +3758,7 @@
 	Press <keycap>Enter</keycap> to continue.</para>
 
       <para>Starting <application>xf86config</application> will display
-	a brief introduction.</para>
+	a brief introduction:</para>
 
       <screen>This program will create a basic XF86Config file, based on menu selections you
 make.
@@ -3965,7 +3965,7 @@
       <para>The selection of a video card driver from a list is
 	next.  If you pass your card on the list, continue to press
 	<keycap>Enter</keycap> and the list will repeat.  Only an
-	excerpt from the list is shown.</para>
+	excerpt from the list is shown:</para>
 
       <screen>Now we must configure video card specific settings. At this point you can
 choose to make a selection out of a database of video card definitions.
--- chapter.sgml.diff ends here ---


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******************************************

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****************************************************
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orders come in. IT WORKS! 

-Jody Jacobs, Richmond, VA
**************************************


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in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home, store, or 
office.

This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: This 
is what you MUST do.

1. Order all 5 reports shown on the list below (You can't sell them if 
you don't have them).

* For each report, send $5.00 CASH, the NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT 
YOU ARE ORDERING, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS, and YOUR NAME & RETURN ADDRESS 
(in case of a problem).

*MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE - IN CASE OF ANY 
MAIL PROBLEMS!

* When you place your order, make sure you order each of the five 
reports. You need all five reports so that you can save them on your 
computer and resell them.

* Within a few days you will receive, via e-mail, each of the five 
reports. Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you 
to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you.

2. IMPORTANT- DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next 
to each report, or their order on the list in any way other than as 
instructed below in steps "a" through 'g" or you will lose out on the 
majority of your profits. Once you understand the way this works 
you'll also see how it doesn't work if you change it. Remember, this 
method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will not work.

a. Look below for the listing of available reports.

b. After you've ordered the five reports, take this Advertisement and 
remove the name and address under REPORT #5. This person has made it 
through the cycle and is no doubt counting their $50,000!

c. Move the name and address under REPORT #4 down to REPORT #5.

d. Move the name and address under REPORT #3 down to REPORT #4.

e. Move the name and address under REPORT #2 down to REPORT #3

f. Move the name and address under REPORT #1 down to REPORT #2.

g. Insert your name and address in the REPORT #1 position.

Please make sure you copy every name and address ACCURATELY!  Copy and 
paste method works well.

3. Take this entire letter, including the modified list of names, and 
save it to your computer. Make NO changes to the Instruction portion 
of this letter.

Your cost to participate in this is practically nothing (surely you 
can afford $25). You obviously already have an Internet Connection and 
e-mail is FREE!

To assist you with marketing your business on the internet, the 5 
reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing 
information which includes how to send bulk e-mails, where to find 
thousands of free classified ads and much, much more.

Here are two primary methods of building your downline:

METHOD #1: SENDING BULK E-MAIL

Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and 
we'll assume you and all those involved send out only 2,000 programs 
each. Let's also assume that the mailing receives a 0.5% response. 
Using a good list, the response could be much better. Also, many 
people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 
2,000. But continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 
programs. With a 0.5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. 
Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total 
of 20,000. Out of that 0.5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2.

Those people 100 mail out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. 
The 0.5% response to that equals 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 
1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a 2,000,000 total. The 0.5% 
response to that equals 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That amounts to 
10,000 each of $5 bills for you in CASH MONEY! Then think about level 
five!  That's $500,000 alone!

Your total income in this example is $50 + $500 + $5,000+ $50,000 + 
$500,000 for a total of $555,550!!!

REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,990 OUT OF THE 2,000 PEOPLE YOU 
MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM!   DARE TO 
THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE, OR HALF SENT OUT 
100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF 2,000. Believe me, many people will do 
just that and more!

REPORT #2 will show you the best methods for bulk e-mailing, and 
e-mail software. 

METHOD #2 - PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET

1. Advertising on the Net is very, very inexpensive, and there are 
HUNDREDS of FREE places to advertise. Let's say you decide to start 
small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get ONLY 
10 people to participate on your first level. Placing a lot of FREE 
ads on the Internet will EASILY get a larger response. Also assume 
that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 10 downline members. 
Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below:

1st level-your 10 members with $5 ....... $50
2nd level-10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100) ....... $500
3rd level-10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1,000).......  $5,000
4th level-10 members from those 1,000 ($5 x 10k) ......  $50,000
5th level-10 members from those 10,000 ($5 x 100k) .......  $500,000

THIS TOTALS     -      $555,550

Remember friends, this assumes that the people who participate only 
recruit 10 people each. Think for a moment what would happen if they 
got 20 people to participate! Most people get 100's of participants.

THINK ABOUT IT! For every $5.00 you receive, all you must do is e-mail 
them the report they ordered. THAT'S IT! ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY 
SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS! This will guarantee that the e-mail THEY send 
out with YOUR name and address on it will be prompt because they can't 
advertise until they receive the report! 

AVAILABLE REPORTS         *** Order Each REPORT by NUMBER, AND NAME 
***

ALWAYS SEND $5 CASH (U.S. CURRENCY) FOR EACH REPORT. CHECKS NOT 
ACCEPTED * - ALWAYS SEND YOUR ORDER VIA FIRST CLASS MAIL _ Make sure 
the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at least two sheets of paper 
(SO THAT THE BILL CAN'T BE SEEN AGAINST LIGHT)  On one of those sheets 
of paper include:

(a) the number & name of the report you are ordering,
(b) your e-mail address, and
(c) your name & postal address (in case your e-mail provider 
encounters problems).






***************************************
PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW:

REPORT #1 "The Insiders Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet"

ORDER REPORT #1 FROM:

Gordon Piggott
PO Box 2855
EASTBOURNE
BN21 2XQ
United Kingdom

REPORT #2 "The Insiders Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet"

ORDER REPORT #2 FROM:

Kevin Ives
P.O. Box 495
Port Washington, NY 11050
U.S.A.

REPORT #3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet"

ORDER REPORT #3 FROM:

Tracey MacDonald
28 South Main Street, #252
Randolph, MA  02368-4800
U.S.A.

REPORT #4 'How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of 
Multilevel Marketing and the Internet"

ORDER REPORT #4 FROM:

Ken Leung
Flat B, 5/F, BLK 5,
Serenity Park, Tai Po, N.T.
Hong Kong

REPORT #5 "How to Send One Million E-Mails for Free."

ORDER REPORT #5 FROM:

Randy Dallard
P.O. Box 8
Osprey, FL 34229
U.S.A.

***********************************************
About 50,000 new people get online every month!






******* TIPS FOR SUCCESS *******

* TREAT THIS AS YOUR BUSINESS! Be prompt, professional, and follow the 
directions accurately.

* Send for the five reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when the 
orders start coming in. When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out 
the requested product/report.

* ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE.

* Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the 
instructions exactly, your results WILL BE SUCCESSFUL!

* ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED!

******* YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES *******

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success:

Start posting ads as soon as you mail off for the reports! By the time 
you start receiving orders, your reports will be in your mailbox! For 
now, something simple, such as posting on message boards something to 
the effect of "Would you like to know how to earn $50,000 working out 
of your house with NO initial investment?  Email me with the keywords 
"more info" to find out how. And, when they email you, send them this 
report in response!

If you don't receive 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, 
continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do.  Then, a couple 
of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT#2. If 
you don't, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. Once 
you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, 
because the system is already working for you, and the cash will 
continue to roll in!  THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your 
name is moved down on the list you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT 
report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report 
people are ordering from you. If you want to generate more income, 
send another batch of e-mails or continue placing ads and start the 
whole process again! There is no limit to the income you will generate 
from this business!

Before you make your decision as to whether or not you participate in 
this program, answer one question...

DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE? If the answer is yes, please look at 
the following facts about this program:

1. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO PRODUCE!

2. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING TO SHIP!

3. YOU ARE SELLING A PRODUCT THAT DOES NOT COST YOU ANYTHING TO 
ADVERTISE!

4. YOU ARE UTILIZING THE POWER OF THE INTERNET AND THE POWER OF 
MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING TO DISTRIBUTE YOUR PRODUCT ALL OVER THE WORLD!

5. YOUR ONLY EXPENSES OTHER THAN YOUR INITIAL $25 INVESTMENT IS YOUR 
TIME!

6. VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE INCOME YOU GENERATE FROM THIS PROGRAM IS PURE 
PROFIT!

7. THIS PROGRAM WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER.

******* TESTIMONIALS*******

This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the 
rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it 
won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income.  I'm living 
proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make 
relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to 
participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to 
financial security. 
-Steven Bardfield, Portland, OR

My name is Mitchell.  My wife, Jody, and I live in Chicago, IL. I am a 
cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good 
money. When I received the program I grumbled to Jody about receiving 
"junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of 
the population and percentages involved. I 'knew' it wouldn't work. 
Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both 
feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old 'I 
told you so' on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was 
on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 
days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was 
sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a 
believer now. I have joined Jody in her "hobby. " I did have seven 
more years until retirement, but I think of the 'rat race,' and it's 
not for me. We owe it all to MLM. 
-Mitchell Wolf MD., Chicago, IL.

The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is 
honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large 
amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before 
I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in 
return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment I 
received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. 
 
-Charles Morris, Esq.

Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my 
mind to participate in this plan. But   conservative that I am, I 
decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just 
no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money 
back. Boy, was I surprised when I found my medium- size post office 
box crammed with orders! For a while, it got so overloaded that I had 
to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this 
year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this 
deal is that it doesn't matter where people live.  There simply isn't 
a better investment with a faster return. 
-Paige Willis, Des Moines, IA

I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered 
if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to 
contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed 
another program ... 11 months passed then it came ... I didn't delete 
this one! ... I made more than $41,000 on the first try!!  
-Violet Wilson, Johnstown, PA

This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our 
jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest 
on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you 
is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass 
up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending!  
-Kerry Ford, Centerport, NY

IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!  Take 5 minutes to Change Your Future!

ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL 
FREEDOM!

FOR YOUR INFORMATION: If you need help with starting a business, 
registering a business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., 
contact your local office of the Small Business Administration (a 
Federal agency) 1(800) 827-5722 for free help and answers to 
questions. Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via 
telephone and free seminars about business tax requirements.

****************************************************************
Under Bill S1618 Title HI passed by the 105th US Congress this letter 
cannot be considered spam as long as the sender includes contact 
information and a method of removal. This is a onetime e-mail 
transmission. No request for removal is necessary.  If this is the 
second time you have received this, I apologize.  It was never 
intended to be spam.  To remove just email itsveryeasy@freeuk.com with 
REMOVE in the subject line.  
****************************************************************

STOP!  If you never read another e-mail PLEASE take a moment to read 
this one. This really is worth your valuable time. At the very least 
PRINT THIS OUT NOW to read later if you are pressed for time.

 
 
 
 
 


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On 2002-05-28 00:58, Matthias Andree wrote:
> Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
> replies as appropriate.

That's the norm around here :)

> --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
> +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
> @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
>        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
>  	was not derived from it.
>  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
> -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
> -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
> -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
> +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
> +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
> +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
>  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
>  	drunkards have a hard time lying.
>  	</para>

This essentially changes only one word!  Do you really have to remove the
capitalization of all the phrases, in order to change one word? :)

This way, the change accusative -> ablative is lost in the noise of all the
decapitalization differences!

- Giorgos


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On Tue, 28 May 2002 22:26:05 +0300 (EEST)
Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:

> On 2002-05-28 00:58, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
> > replies as appropriate.
> 
> That's the norm around here :)
> 
> > --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
> > +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
> > @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
> >        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager,
> >        but
> >  	was not derived from it.
> >  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
> > -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
> > -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
> > -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
> > +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
> > +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
> > +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
> >  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote>
> >  	hinting that drunkards have a hard time lying.
> >  	</para>
> 
> This essentially changes only one word!  Do you really have to remove
> the capitalization of all the phrases, in order to change one word? :)
> 
> This way, the change accusative -> ablative is lost in the noise of
> all the decapitalization differences!
> 
> - Giorgos
> 
> 

Recently I have been pondering this, and have come up with an idea.
May I throw the idea of consulting Greg "grog" Lehey on this, he's
very smart in the Vinum area, and think he should at least be asked
for an opinion.

With this reply, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing Greg for his
opinion.  What do you think Greg?

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The section in question is paraphrased from an E-mail message Greg sent
me.  I wouldn't know accusative form from ablative form, so I'll leave
Greg and Matthias to work that one out.

Here's the original interchange between Greg and me:

>> [What is the] derivation of the name.  Is it latin?
>
> Yes.
>
>> A web search didn't yield much.
>
> That's sad.
>
>> If you wouldn't mind folks knowing, this might be a good place to
>> document the origins.
>
> Sure.  The word means "wine", but it's more important because of a
> Latin proverb "in wine, truth": in other words, durnkards have
> difficulty lying.  But in Latin it's "In vino veritas".  It's vino and
> not vinum because of Latin syntax (ablative instead of nominative
> case, if you're interested).  If you wan to include this, try to make
> it look funny, and let me have a couple of chances too ;-)

I don't think I succeeded in making it look funny, so any revision to
increase the humor value would also be appreciated.

It looks like I can be blamed for the gratuitous capitalization in the
article.  With the embedded capital letter in my surname, I probably
have a natural tendency to over capitalize :-)

I have no problem with either change.

Thanks to Matthias for his careful reading of the article!

	Bob

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 14:26, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2002-05-28 00:58, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
> > replies as appropriate.
> 
> That's the norm around here :)
> 
> > --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
> > +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
> > @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
> >        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
> >  	was not derived from it.
> >  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
> > -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
> > -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
> > -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
> > +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
> > +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
> > +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
> >  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
> >  	drunkards have a hard time lying.
> >  	</para>
> 
> This essentially changes only one word!  Do you really have to remove the
> capitalization of all the phrases, in order to change one word? :)
> 
> This way, the change accusative -> ablative is lost in the noise of all the
> decapitalization differences!
> 
> - Giorgos
> 



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On Tuesday, 28 May 2002 at 17:36:07 +0000, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2002 22:26:05 +0300 (EEST)
> Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
>
>> On 2002-05-28 00:58, Matthias Andree wrote:
>>> Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
>>> replies as appropriate.
>>
>> That's the norm around here :)
>>
>>> --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
>>> +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
>>> @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
>>>        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager,
>>>        but
>>>  	was not derived from it.
>>>  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
>>> -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
>>> -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
>>> -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>> +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
>>> +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
>>> +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>>  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote>
>>>  	hinting that drunkards have a hard time lying.
>>>  	</para>
>>
>> This essentially changes only one word!  Do you really have to remove
>> the capitalization of all the phrases, in order to change one word? :)
>>
>> This way, the change accusative -> ablative is lost in the noise of
>> all the decapitalization differences!
>
> Recently I have been pondering this, and have come up with an idea.
> May I throw the idea of consulting Greg "grog" Lehey on this, he's
> very smart in the Vinum area, and think he should at least be asked
> for an opinion.

Well, this doesn't have much to do with Vinum as such.
>
> With this reply, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing Greg for his
> opinion.  What do you think Greg?

I don't understand how this got in there in the first place.  I
reviewed this draft before it was committed, and made the comment:

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:26:59 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote:
> On Saturday, 15 September 2001 at 22:14:35 -0500, Bob Van Valzah wrote:
>> Greg, one question I forgot to ask is about the derivation of the
>> name.  Is it latin?
>
> Yes.
>
>> A web search doesn't yield much.
>
> That's sad.
>
>> If you wouldn't mind folks knowing, this might be a good place to
>> document the origins.
>
> Sure.  The word means "wine", but it's more important because of a
> Latin proverb "in wine, truth": in other words, drunkards have
> difficulty lying.  But in Latin it's "In vino veritas".  It's vino and
> not vinum because of Latin syntax (ablative instead of nominative
> case, if you're interested).  If you want to include this, try to make
> it look funny, and let me have a couple of chances too ;-)

So where did the "accusative" come from?  I don't know either.
Anyway, I'm copying Bob, which you also could have done, and I've
fixed the grammar, but not the capitalization.  If you want to be
authentic, it's IN VINO VERITAS, since Latin didn't have a lower case.
If you want to keep the product names correct, it's IN Vino VERITAS.
I don't think either looks too good.

Greg
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On Tuesday, 28 May 2002 at 17:35:59 -0500, Bob Van Valzah wrote:
> The section in question is paraphrased from an E-mail message Greg sent
> me.  I wouldn't know accusative form from ablative form, so I'll leave
> Greg and Matthias to work that one out.
>
> Here's the original interchange between Greg and me:

Ah, this crossed over with my reply.

>>> [What is the] derivation of the name.  Is it latin?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> A web search didn't yield much.
>>
>> That's sad.
>>
>>> If you wouldn't mind folks knowing, this might be a good place to
>>> document the origins.
>>
>> Sure.  The word means "wine", but it's more important because of a
>> Latin proverb "in wine, truth": in other words, durnkards have
>> difficulty lying.  But in Latin it's "In vino veritas".  It's vino and
>> not vinum because of Latin syntax (ablative instead of nominative
>> case, if you're interested).  If you wan to include this, try to make
>> it look funny, and let me have a couple of chances too ;-)
>
> I don't think I succeeded in making it look funny, so any revision to
> increase the humor value would also be appreciated.

Looks OK to me.

> It looks like I can be blamed for the gratuitous capitalization in
> the article.  With the embedded capital letter in my surname, I
> probably have a natural tendency to over capitalize :-)

Well, as I said, I don't have a problem with the capitalization.  But
I'm curious that you write your name "Van Valzah".  It looks vaguely
Dutch, but there they'd write it "van Valzah".

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>Number:         38673
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       s/forth/fourth/ in vidcontrol man page
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
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>Keywords:       
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>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Tue May 28 17:00:10 PDT 2002
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>Originator:     Chris Pepper
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>Description:
	/usr/share/man/cat1/vidcontrol.1.gz has a typo: uses forth for fourth.
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:

	Patch attached.

--- vidcontrol.1.patch begins here ---
--- vidcontrol.1	Tue May 28 19:50:47 2002
+++ vidcontrol.1.fixed	Tue May 28 19:51:17 2002
@@ -266,7 +266,7 @@
 
 	   vidcontrol -p < /dev/ttyv0 > shot.scr
 
-     The following command will dump contents of the forth virtual terminal to
+     The following command will dump contents of the fourth virtual terminal to
      the standard output in the human readable format:
 
 	   vidcontrol -P < /dev/ttyv3
--- vidcontrol.1.patch ends here ---


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On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 00:35, Bob Van Valzah wrote:
> The section in question is paraphrased from an E-mail message Greg sent
> me.  I wouldn't know accusative form from ablative form, so I'll leave
> Greg and Matthias to work that one out.
> 

It's either nominative or accusative. Ablative would be 'vino', as in 'in
vino veritas', since the location is static, i.e. it's not about the
motion but the position.

What is your real question, if it involves latin, maybe I can help out...

> Here's the original interchange between Greg and me:
> 
> >> [What is the] derivation of the name.  Is it latin?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> >> A web search didn't yield much.
> >
> > That's sad.
> >
> >> If you wouldn't mind folks knowing, this might be a good place to
> >> document the origins.
> >
> > Sure.  The word means "wine", but it's more important because of a
> > Latin proverb "in wine, truth": in other words, durnkards have
> > difficulty lying.  But in Latin it's "In vino veritas".  It's vino and
> > not vinum because of Latin syntax (ablative instead of nominative
> > case, if you're interested).  If you wan to include this, try to make
> > it look funny, and let me have a couple of chances too ;-)
> 
> I don't think I succeeded in making it look funny, so any revision to
> increase the humor value would also be appreciated.
> 
> It looks like I can be blamed for the gratuitous capitalization in the
> article.  With the embedded capital letter in my surname, I probably
> have a natural tendency to over capitalize :-)
> 
> I have no problem with either change.
> 
> Thanks to Matthias for his careful reading of the article!
> 
> 	Bob
> 
> On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 14:26, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2002-05-28 00:58, Matthias Andree wrote:
> > > Please note I'm not subscribed to FreeBSD's doc mailing list, so Cc:
> > > replies as appropriate.
> > 
> > That's the norm around here :)
> > 
> > > --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
> > > +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
> > > @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
> > >        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
> > >  	was not derived from it.
> > >  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
> > > -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
> > > -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
> > > -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
> > > +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
> > > +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
> > > +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
> > >  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
> > >  	drunkards have a hard time lying.
> > >  	</para>
> > 
> > This essentially changes only one word!  Do you really have to remove the
> > capitalization of all the phrases, in order to change one word? :)
> > 
> > This way, the change accusative -> ablative is lost in the noise of all the
> > decapitalization differences!
> > 
> > - Giorgos
> > 
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On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 01:58, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

> > It looks like I can be blamed for the gratuitous capitalization in
> > the article.  With the embedded capital letter in my surname, I
> > probably have a natural tendency to over capitalize :-)
> 
> Well, as I said, I don't have a problem with the capitalization.  But
> I'm curious that you write your name "Van Valzah".  It looks vaguely
> Dutch, but there they'd write it "van Valzah".
> 

Would they? :)

I don't think there's any official consensus about this matter. If you
follow the grammatical rules it should be 'van', without capital, but then
you presume given names are subject to those rules. I for one don't agree.

Names are names. They don't change, spelling rules don't apply to them,
and if those rules change (like they did for the Dutch language a few
years back), this has no effect on a person's name. In _my_ opinion. ;)


  Wouter Van Hemel

(which actually means 'Wouter From Heaven', so if I would follow the rules
of Dutch spelling, I would have to write my last name 'hemel' without
captial too? 'Wouter van hemel' surely doesn't make any sense...)

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Greetings fellow docers!

	Due to recent discussion, I've noticed that many articles and
handbook chapters use the term 'man pages' when docproj standard appears
to be 'manual pages' (kinda beaten into me).  Hence, I have produced a
patch which will change instances of man page > manual page throughout
the doc tree (even comments in build files).  This patch has also been
successfully applied to my tree without error, and has build perfectly.

	This patch is now placed before you to gain 'peer' review.
It is translator friendly (ie: no content changes) and is located at

http://www.FreeBSD.org/~trhodes/docproj.diff

and with no negative comments, I wish to apply in 3 days, sooner if
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On Wednesday, 29 May 2002 at  3:34:35 +0200, Wouter Van Hemel wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 00:35, Bob Van Valzah wrote:
>> The section in question is paraphrased from an E-mail message Greg sent
>> me.  I wouldn't know accusative form from ablative form, so I'll leave
>> Greg and Matthias to work that one out.
>>
>
> It's either nominative or accusative. Ablative would be 'vino', as in 'in
> vino veritas', since the location is static, i.e. it's not about the
> motion but the position.
>
> What is your real question, if it involves latin, maybe I can help
> out...

It was below:

>>>> --- /tmp/article.sgml.orig	Tue May 28 00:51:20 2002
>>>> +++ /tmp/article.sgml	Tue May 28 00:52:04 2002
>>>> @@ -287,9 +287,9 @@
>>>>        <para>&vinum.ap; was inspired by the Veritas Volume Manager, but
>>>>  	was not derived from it.
>>>>  	The name is a play on that history and the Latin adage
>>>> -	<foreignphrase>In Vino Veritas</foreignphrase>
>>>> -	(<foreignphrase>Vino</foreignphrase> is the accusative form of
>>>> -	<foreignphrase>Vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>>> +	<foreignphrase>in vino veritas</foreignphrase>
>>>> +	(<foreignphrase>vino</foreignphrase> is the ablative form of
>>>> +	<foreignphrase>vinum</foreignphrase>).
>>>>  	Literally translated, that is <quote>Truth lies in wine</quote> hinting that
>>>>  	drunkards have a hard time lying.
>>>>  	</para>

The question has been answered, unless a new one remains:  "Where did
the word \"accusative\" come from?".

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On Wednesday, 29 May 2002 at  3:39:09 +0200, Wouter Van Hemel wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 01:58, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>
>>> It looks like I can be blamed for the gratuitous capitalization in
>>> the article.  With the embedded capital letter in my surname, I
>>> probably have a natural tendency to over capitalize :-)
>>
>> Well, as I said, I don't have a problem with the capitalization.  But
>> I'm curious that you write your name "Van Valzah".  It looks vaguely
>> Dutch, but there they'd write it "van Valzah".
>>
>
> Would they? :)

You're the first one I've seen who doesn't.

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On Wed, 29 May 2002, Wouter Van Hemel wrote:

> It's either nominative or accusative. Ablative would be 'vino', as in 'in
> vino veritas', since the location is static, i.e. it's not about the
> motion but the position.
> 
> What is your real question, if it involves latin, maybe I can help out...

The currently available "Bootstrapping vinum" document claims "vino" was
accusative, but it's ablative (could be dative as well, but not after
the preposition "in"). I'm asking for a correction, and you just
confirmed that. :-)

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On Wednesday, 29 May 2002 at  4:54:48 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2002, Wouter Van Hemel wrote:
>
>> It's either nominative or accusative. Ablative would be 'vino', as in 'in
>> vino veritas', since the location is static, i.e. it's not about the
>> motion but the position.
>>
>> What is your real question, if it involves latin, maybe I can help out...
>
> The currently available "Bootstrapping vinum" document claims "vino" was
> accusative, but it's ablative (could be dative as well, but not after
> the preposition "in"). I'm asking for a correction, and you just
> confirmed that. :-)

I committed the fix a few hours ago.  Read the rest of the thread.

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On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 21:48, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: 
> The question has been answered, unless a new one remains:  "Where did
> the word \"accusative\" come from?".

Mea culpa.  I didn't even notice the difference when I last replied to
this thread.  (My brain must have incorrectly equated ablative and
accusative).  I apparently introduced this error when re-typing Greg's
explanation of the derivation.  Sorry, and thanks to all for finding and
fixing. 

That'll teach me to cut and paste :-) 

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If memory serves me right, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote:
> In article <878z6ayvrh.fsf@boggy.acest.tutrp.tut.ac.jp>
> NAKAJI Hiroyuki <nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp> writes:
> 
> > At first, a directory en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/pc98 is added and
> > common/dev.sgml is updated to include devices available for
> > FreeBSD(98).
> > 
> > A diff from /usr/src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware is available at
> > http://www.rc.tutrp.tut.ac.jp/~nakaji/FreeBSD/pc98/hardware.diff.gz
> 
> I have updated this patch, and added a relnote for pc98.
> http://home.jp.freebsd.org/~nyan/patches/doc-pc98.diff.gz
> 
> If it has no problem, I will commit it.
> Thank you.

Nice job, folks!

After a patch and a build test, the only glitch I saw was that in the
Serial Devices section, some of the <note></note> elements need an
arch="pc98" attribute on them; as it is right now, they "leak" out to
the other architectures.

There are a couple minor nitpicks in the markup but we can easily work
on fixing these after you get the patch in the tree.  I'd say if you can
fix the problem in the previous paragraph, you should proceed with 
committing your patch.

Thanks!

Bruce.



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>Number:         38700
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       French translation of ipsec-must article
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
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>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Wed May 29 11:40:01 PDT 2002
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>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
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System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
French translation of ipsec-must article
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to fr_FR.ISO8859-1/articles/
	

--- articles.diff begins here ---
diff -ruN articles.org/Makefile articles/Makefile
--- articles.org/Makefile	Sun May 26 20:27:44 2002
+++ articles/Makefile	Wed May 29 20:22:15 2002
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
 SUBDIR+= pxe
 SUBDIR+= pr-guidelines
 SUBDIR+= cvsup-advanced
+SUBDIR+= ipsec-must
 
 ROOT_SYMLINKS+= new-users
 
diff -ruN articles.org/ipsec-must/Makefile articles/ipsec-must/Makefile
--- articles.org/ipsec-must/Makefile	Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ articles/ipsec-must/Makefile	Mon May 27 12:04:13 2002
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+#                                                                        
+#    The FreeBSD Documentation Project                                   
+#    The FreeBSD French Documentation Project                            
+#                                                                        
+#    $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ipsec-must/Makefile,v 1.2 2001/07/29 09:47:40 dd Exp $
+#    Original revision: 1.2
+
+DOC?= article
+
+FORMATS?= html
+
+INSTALL_COMPRESSED?=gz
+INSTALL_ONLY_COMPRESSED?=
+
+SRCS= article.sgml
+
+DOC_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../..
+
+.include "${DOC_PREFIX}/share/mk/doc.project.mk"
diff -ruN articles.org/ipsec-must/article.sgml articles/ipsec-must/article.sgml
--- articles.org/ipsec-must/article.sgml	Thu Jan  1 01:00:00 1970
+++ articles/ipsec-must/article.sgml	Wed May 29 20:21:13 2002
@@ -0,0 +1,369 @@
+<!--
+    The FreeBSD Documentation Project
+    The FreeBSD French Documentation Project
+
+    $FreeBSD: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ipsec-must/article.sgml,v 1.9 2001/10/16 11:53:00 keramida Exp $
+    Original revision: 1.9
+-->
+
+<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//DTD DocBook V4.1-Based Extension//EN" [
+<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN"> %man;
+<!ENTITY % abstract PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Abstract Entities//FR"> %abstract;
+<!ENTITY % artheader PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook ArtHeader Entities//FR"> %artheader;
+<!ENTITY % translators PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Translator Entities//FR"> %translators;
+<!ENTITY % man PUBLIC "-//FreeBSD//ENTITIES DocBook Manual Page Entities//EN">
+%man;
+]>
+
+<article>
+  <articleinfo>
+    <title>V&eacute;rification ind&eacute;pendante du fonctionnement d'IPsec sous
+      FreeBSD</title>
+
+    <author>
+      <firstname>David</firstname>
+      <surname>Honig</surname>
+
+      <affiliation>
+        <address><email>honig@sprynet.com</email></address>
+      </affiliation>
+    </author>
+
+    <pubdate>3 Mai 1999</pubdate>
+
+    <abstract>
+      <para>Vous avez install&eacute; IPsec et cela semble fonctionner.
+	Comment pouvez-vous en &ecirc;tre s&ucirc;r?  Je d&eacute;cris 
+	une m&eacute;thode pour v&eacute;rifier exp&eacute;rimentalement 
+	le fonctionnement d'IPsec.</para>
+	&abstract.license;
+	&abstract.disclaimer;
+	&trans.a.fonvieille;
+    </abstract>
+  </articleinfo>
+
+  <sect1>
+    <title>Le probl&egrave;me</title>
+
+    <para>Tout d'abord, supposons que vous avez <link
+      linkend="ipsec-install">install&eacute; 
+      <emphasis>IPsec</emphasis></link>.
+      Comment savez-vous si cela <link linkend="caveat">fonctionne</link>?
+      Bien s&ucirc;r, votre connexion ne fonctionnera s'il est mal 
+      configur&eacute;, et fonctionnera quand vous l'aurez enfin 
+      correctement configur&eacute;.  &man.netstat.1; le fera 
+      appara&icirc;tre.  Mais pouvez-vous le confirmer
+      de fa&ccedil;on ind&eacute;pendante?</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1>
+    <title>La solution</title>
+
+    <para>Tout d'abord, quelques informations th&eacute;oriques relative 
+      &agrave; la cryptographie:</para>
+
+    <orderedlist>
+      <listitem>
+	<para>Les donn&eacute;es chiffr&eacute;es sont 
+	  uniform&eacute;ment distribu&eacute;es, i.e., ont une entropie 
+	  maximale par symbole;</para>
+      </listitem>
+
+      <listitem>
+	<para>Les donn&eacute;es brutes, non compress&eacute;es sont en 
+	  g&eacute;n&eacute;rale redondantes, i.e., n'ont pas une 
+	  entropie maximale.</para>
+      </listitem>
+    </orderedlist>
+
+    <para>Supposez que vous pourriez mesurer l'entropie des 
+      donn&eacute;es &agrave; destination et en provenance de votre 
+      interface r&eacute;seau.  Alors vous pourriez voir la 
+      diff&eacute;rence entre donn&eacute;es non-chiff&eacute;es et
+      donn&eacute;es chiffr&eacute;es.  Cela serait vrai m&ecirc;me si 
+      certaines des donn&eacute;es en &ldquo;mode chiffr&eacute;&rdquo; 
+      n'&eacute;taient pas chiffr&eacute;es --- comme l'en-t&ecirc;te IP 
+      externe, si le paquet doit &ecirc;tre routable.</para>
+
+    <sect2 id="MUST">
+      <title>MUST</title>
+
+      <para>L'&ldquo;Universal Statistical Test for Random
+	Bit Generators&rdquo;(<ulink
+	url="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Code/4704/universal.pdf">
+	<acronym>MUST</acronym></ulink>) d'Ueli Maurer, ou encore le
+	&ldquo;test statistique universel pour les g&eacute;n&eacute;rateurs
+	al&eacute;atoires de bits&rdquo;, mesure rapidement l'entropie d'un
+	&eacute;chantillon.  Il utilise une sorte d'algorithme de compression.
+	<link linkend="code">Le code est donn&eacute; ci-dessous</link> pour
+	une variante qui mesure les morceaux (environ un quart de
+	m&eacute;gaoctet) successifs d'un fichier.</para>
+    </sect2>
+
+    <sect2 id="tcpdump">
+      <title>Tcpdump</title>
+
+      <para>Nous avons &eacute;galement besoin d'une mani&egrave;re de 
+	capturer les donn&eacute;es r&eacute;seau brutes.  Un programme 
+	appel&eacute; &man.tcpdump.1; vous permet de faire cela, si vous 
+	avez activ&eacute; l'interface
+	<emphasis>Berkeley Packet Filter</emphasis> (Filtre de Paquet de
+	Berkeley) dans votre <link linkend="kernel">fichier de 
+	configuration du noyau</link>.</para>
+
+      <para>La commande</para>
+
+      <screen><userinput><command>tcpdump</command> -c 4000 -s 10000 -w <replaceable>dumpfile.bin</replaceable></userinput></screen>
+
+      <para>capturera 4000 paquets brutes dans le fichier
+	<replaceable>dumpfile.bin</replaceable>.  Dans cet exemple 
+	jusqu'&agrave; 10000 octets par paquets seront 
+	captur&eacute;s.</para>
+    </sect2>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1>
+    <title>L'exp&eacute;rience</title>
+
+    <para>Voici l'exp&eacute;rience:</para>
+
+    <procedure>
+      <step>
+	<para>Ouvrez une fen&ecirc;tre sur un h&ocirc;te IPsec et une 
+	  autre sur un h&ocirc;te non s&eacute;curis&eacute;.</para>
+      </step>
+
+      <step>
+	<para>Maintenant commencez &agrave; <link linkend="tcpdump">capturer
+	  les paquets</link>.</para>
+      </step>
+
+      <step>
+	<para>Dans la fen&ecirc;tre &ldquo;s&eacute;curis&eacute;e&rdquo;, 
+	  lancez la commande Unix &man.yes.1;, qui fera d&eacute;filer 
+	  le caract&egrave;re <literal>y</literal>.  Au bout d'un moment, 
+	  arr&ecirc;tez cela.  Passez &agrave; la fen&ecirc;tre non 
+	  s&eacute;curis&eacute;e, et faites de m&ecirc;me.  Au bout
+	  d'un moment, arr&ecirc;tez.</para>
+      </step>
+
+      <step>
+	<para>Maintenant lancez <link linkend="code">MUST</link> sur les
+	  paquets captur&eacute;s.  Vous devriez voir quelque chose de
+	  semblable &agrave; ce qui suit.  Ce qui est important de noter est
+	  que la connexion non s&eacute;curis&eacute;e a 93% (6,7) de valeurs
+	  attendues (7,18), et la connexion &ldquo;normale&rdquo; a 29%
+	  (2,1) de valeurs attendues.</para>
+
+    <screen>&prompt.user; <userinput>tcpdump -c 4000 -s 10000 -w <replaceable>ipsecdemo.bin</replaceable></userinput>
+&prompt.user; <userinput>uliscan <replaceable>ipsecdemo.bin</replaceable></userinput>
+
+Uliscan 21 Dec 98
+L=8 256 258560
+Measuring file ipsecdemo.bin
+Init done
+Expected value for L=8 is 7.1836656
+6.9396 --------------------------------------------------------
+6.6177 -----------------------------------------------------
+6.4100 ---------------------------------------------------
+2.1101 -----------------
+2.0838 -----------------
+2.0983 -----------------</screen>
+      </step>
+    </procedure>
+  </sect1>
+
+    <sect1 id="caveat">
+      <title>Mise en garde</title>
+
+    <para>Cette exp&eacute;rience montre qu'IPsec <emphasis>semble</emphasis>
+      distribuer les donn&eacute;es utiles 
+      <emphasis>uniform&eacute;ment</emphasis> comme un chiffrement 
+      le devrait.  Cependant, l'exp&eacute;rience d&eacute;crite
+      ici <emphasis>ne peut pas</emphasis> d&eacute;tecter les 
+      probl&egrave;mes possibles dans un syst&egrave;me.  Ceux-ci 
+      peuvent &ecirc;tre la g&eacute;n&eacute;ration ou l'&eacute;change 
+      d'une cl&eacute; faible, des donn&eacute;es ou cl&eacute;s visibles 
+      par d'autres, l'utilisation d'algorithmes faibles, code du noyau 
+      modifi&eacute;, etc...
+      Etudiez les sources, ma&icirc;trisez le code.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1 id="IPsec">
+    <title>IPsec - D&eacute;finition</title>
+
+    <para>Extensions de s&eacute;curit&eacute; au protocole internet 
+      IPv4, requisent pour l'IPv6.  Un protocole pour le chiffrement et
+      l'authentification au niveau IP (h&ocirc;te &agrave; h&ocirc;te).  
+      SSL s&eacute;curise uniquement une socket d'application; 
+      <application>SSH</application> s&eacute;curise seulement une session;
+      <application>PGP</application> s&eacute;curise uniquement un fichier
+      sp&eacute;cifique ou un message.  IPsec chiffre tout entre deux 
+      h&ocirc;tes.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1 id="ipsec-install">
+    <title>Installation d'IPsec</title>
+
+    <para>La plupart des versions r&eacute;centes de FreeBSD ont le support
+      IPsec dans leurs sources de base.  Aussi vous devrez probablement
+      ajouter l'option <option>IPSEC</option> dans votre configuration de noyau
+      et, apr&egrave;s la compilation et l'installation du noyau, configurer
+      les connexions IPsec en utilisant la commande
+      &man.setkey.8;.</para>
+
+    <para>Un guide complet sur l'utilisation d'IPsec sous FreeBSD est
+      fourni dans le <ulink url="../../books/handbook/ipsec.html">Manuel 
+      de Freebsd</ulink>.</para>
+  </sect1>
+
+  <sect1 id="kernel">
+    <title>src/sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME</title>
+
+    <para>Ce qui suit doit &ecirc;tre pr&eacute;sent dans le fichier de 
+      configuration du noyau afin de pouvoir capturer les donn&eacute;es 
+      r&eacute;seau avec &man.tcpdump.1;.  Soyez-s&ucirc;r de lancer 
+      &man.config.8; apr&egrave;s avoir rajout&eacute; la ligne
+      ci-dessous, et de recompiler et r&eacute;installer.</para>
+
+    <programlisting>device	bpf</programlisting>
+  </sect1>
+
+    <sect1 id="code">
+      <title>Test statistique universel de Maurer (pour une longueur de
+	bloc=8 bits)</title>
+
+        <para>Vous pouvez trouver le m&ecirc;me code source <ulink
+          url="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Code/4704/uliscanc.txt">
+          ici</ulink>.</para>
+
+<programlisting>/*
+  ULISCAN.c   ---blocksize of 8
+
+  1 Oct 98
+  1 Dec 98
+  21 Dec 98       uliscan.c derived from ueli8.c
+
+  This version has // comments removed for Sun cc
+
+  This implements Ueli M Maurer's "Universal Statistical Test for Random
+  Bit Generators" using L=8
+
+  Accepts a filename on the command line; writes its results, with other
+  info, to stdout.
+
+  Handles input file exhaustion gracefully.
+
+  Ref: J. Cryptology v 5 no 2, 1992 pp 89-105
+  also on the web somewhere, which is where I found it.
+
+  -David Honig
+  honig@sprynet.com
+
+  Usage:
+  ULISCAN filename
+  outputs to stdout
+*/
+
+#define L 8
+#define V (1&lt;&lt;L)
+#define Q (10*V)
+#define K (100   *Q)
+#define MAXSAMP (Q + K)
+
+#include &lt;stdio.h&gt;
+#include &lt;math.h&gt;
+
+int main(argc, argv)
+int argc;
+char **argv;
+{
+  FILE *fptr;
+  int i,j;
+  int b, c;
+  int table[V];
+  double sum = 0.0;
+  int iproduct = 1;
+  int run;
+
+  extern double   log(/* double x */);
+
+  printf("Uliscan 21 Dec 98 \nL=%d %d %d \n", L, V, MAXSAMP);
+
+  if (argc &lt; 2) {
+    printf("Usage: Uliscan filename\n");
+    exit(-1);
+  } else {
+    printf("Measuring file %s\n", argv[1]);
+  }
+
+  fptr = fopen(argv[1],"rb");
+
+  if (fptr == NULL) {
+    printf("Can't find %s\n", argv[1]);
+    exit(-1);
+  }
+
+  for (i = 0; i &lt; V; i++) {
+    table[i] = 0;
+  }
+
+  for (i = 0; i &lt; Q; i++) {
+    b = fgetc(fptr);
+    table[b] = i;
+  }
+
+  printf("Init done\n");
+
+  printf("Expected value for L=8 is 7.1836656\n");
+
+  run = 1;
+
+  while (run) {
+    sum = 0.0;
+    iproduct = 1;
+
+    if (run)
+      for (i = Q; run && i &lt; Q + K; i++) {
+        j = i;
+        b = fgetc(fptr);
+
+        if (b &lt; 0)
+          run = 0;
+
+        if (run) {
+          if (table[b] &gt; j)
+            j += K;
+
+          sum += log((double)(j-table[b]));
+
+          table[b] = i;
+        }
+      }
+
+    if (!run)
+      printf("Premature end of file; read %d blocks.\n", i - Q);
+
+    sum = (sum/((double)(i - Q))) /  log(2.0);
+    printf("%4.4f ", sum);
+
+    for (i = 0; i &lt; (int)(sum*8.0 + 0.50); i++)
+      printf("-");
+
+    printf("\n");
+
+    /* refill initial table */
+    if (0) {
+      for (i = 0; i &lt; Q; i++) {
+        b = fgetc(fptr);
+        if (b &lt; 0) {
+          run = 0;
+        } else {
+          table[b] = i;
+        }
+      }
+    }
+  }
+}</programlisting>
+  </sect1>
+</article>
--- articles.diff ends here ---


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Hello there,

Nice to see someone has taken it upon himself to finish the job I left
in the middle (by completing only the articles/ part) a while ago.

>        config file with the appropriate entries.  See the
> -      <samp>stl(4)</samp> man page and the appropriate section of the
> +      <samp>stl(4)</samp> manual page and the appropriate section of the
 
When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:

	"see the foo(n) manpage"

You can simply use "see foo(n)", since it should be apparent that this
is a reference to a manual page.  Repeating in every such place that
it "is a manual page" is a bit of an overkill.

>  	would generate such a set of context diffs for the given
> -	source file or directory hierarchy.  See the man page for
> +	source file or directory hierarchy.  See the manual page for
>  	&man.diff.1; for more details.</para>

Another example of a case where dropping "manpage" altogether gives
actually more aesthetically pleasing results.  Compare the text above
with the following:

	See diff(1) for more details.
 
>    <para>This chapter was written by &a.murray; with selections from a
> -    variety of sources including the intro(4) man page by
> +    variety of sources including the intro(4) manual page by
>      &a.joerg;.</para>

I guess this can safely be replaced with &man.intro.4;.

> -            handbook, the man page or from the ppp.conf.sample file.
> +            handbook, the manual page or from the ppp.conf.sample file.

Now that I see this...  You might want after you've done the manpage
changes to wrap ppp.conf.sample in <filename> tags.  Or I'll do it,
but in a few days, to avoid making you merge stuff again and again.

>  	Additional encoding options can be found by consulting the
> -	lame man page.</para>
> +	lame manual page.</para>

Since `lame' is used in IRC to denote 'silly', 'idiot', or similar,
you will probably want to change this part.  Make it something like:

	by consulting
	<citerefentry>
	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
	</citerefentry>.

This emulates the functionality of &man.lame.1;.  You can even make
this a local entity in the file that references the manpage, by adding
to the <!DOCTYPE> element the proper stuff:

    [ <!ENTITY man.lame.1 "<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/lame/<manvolnum/1//"> ]

and then using &man.lame.1; as usual.

> -in your ppp configuration file (refer to the man page for details).</para>
> +in your ppp configuration file (refer to the manual page for details).</para>

I would make the manpage reference more explicit here, and use
&man.ppp.1; in the parenthesized text:

	... (refer to &man.ppp.1; for details).</para>

Well, that's all.  I hope it hasn't started to get annoying yet ;)

- Giorgos

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On Thu, 30 May 2002 00:47:47 +0300
Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:

> Hello there,
> 
> Nice to see someone has taken it upon himself to finish the job I left
> in the middle (by completing only the articles/ part) a while ago.
> 
> >        config file with the appropriate entries.  See the
> > -      <samp>stl(4)</samp> man page and the appropriate section of
> > the+      <samp>stl(4)</samp> manual page and the appropriate
> > section of the
>  
> When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
> Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:
> 
> 	"see the foo(n) manpage"
> 
> You can simply use "see foo(n)", since it should be apparent that this
> is a reference to a manual page.  Repeating in every such place that
> it "is a manual page" is a bit of an overkill.

My point here was NOT to reword things, so that we may be nicer to
the translators...  And then reword them later, but try to get
all instances at the same time...  I feel smacking them all right
now would be best, and then perhaps reword things later.

What do you think?  I agree that ``please review the <blah> manual
page for more options.''  Or ``see blah(1)''

Opinion?

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Guys, 

This is my first post here (Hi Tom!), just subscribed. Just want to let you all know that I've 
started on the norwegian translation (I'm the first! and so far everyone. :) of the installation 
instructions in the handbook. 

Keep up the good work.

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On 2002-05-29 17:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2002 00:47:47 +0300
> Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
> > Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:
> > 
> > 	"see the foo(n) manpage"
> > 
> > You can simply use "see foo(n)", since it should be apparent that this
> > is a reference to a manual page.  Repeating in every such place that
> > it "is a manual page" is a bit of an overkill.
> 
> My point here was NOT to reword things, so that we may be nicer to
> the translators...  And then reword them later, but try to get
> all instances at the same time...  I feel smacking them all right
> now would be best, and then perhaps reword things later.

The translators are going to change the translation to get rid of the
``manpage'' or ``man page'' stuff anyway.  I don't really feel like
supporting either one-step or two-step changes.  You can do whatever
you feel more comfortable with, or perhaps wait for someone else to
comment on that too :)

- Giorgos


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On Thu, 30 May 2002 01:01:45 +0300
Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:

> On 2002-05-29 17:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002 00:47:47 +0300
> > Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > > When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
> > > Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:
> > > 
> > > 	"see the foo(n) manpage"
> > > 
> > > You can simply use "see foo(n)", since it should be apparent that
> > > this is a reference to a manual page.  Repeating in every such
> > > place that it "is a manual page" is a bit of an overkill.
> > 
> > My point here was NOT to reword things, so that we may be nicer to
> > the translators...  And then reword them later, but try to get
> > all instances at the same time...  I feel smacking them all right
> > now would be best, and then perhaps reword things later.
> 
> The translators are going to change the translation to get rid of the
> ``manpage'' or ``man page'' stuff anyway.  I don't really feel like
> supporting either one-step or two-step changes.  You can do whatever
> you feel more comfortable with, or perhaps wait for someone else to
> comment on that too :)
> 
> - Giorgos
> 

If you take a neutral step here, then I'll change the instances now,
then hack apart the ``see blah(1) for more information'' chapter
by chapter...  This way I don't really step on anyones toes (those
of the -doc list who are working on patches for things).

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	So this raises a question I've been wondering about. Sorry if 
it's a FAQ -- I haven't stumbled across it yet.

	What is the dividing line between entities and tags? I'd 
think it would be more XML-ish and reusable to use something like:

	<citerefentry>
	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
	</citerefentry>

	than "&man.lame.1;". What's the dividing line that falls 
between man pages and other tagged items, that makes man an entity 
(in all the pages I've looked at so far, anyway)?


					Thx,


					Chris Pepper

At 12:47 AM +0300 2002/05/30, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

>When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
>Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:

>  > 	Additional encoding options can be found by consulting the
>>  -	lame man page.</para>
>>  +	lame manual page.</para>
>
>Since `lame' is used in IRC to denote 'silly', 'idiot', or similar,
>you will probably want to change this part.  Make it something like:
>
>	by consulting
>	<citerefentry>
>	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
>	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
>	</citerefentry>.
>
>This emulates the functionality of &man.lame.1;.  You can even make
>this a local entity in the file that references the manpage, by adding
>to the <!DOCTYPE> element the proper stuff:
>
>     [ <!ENTITY man.lame.1 
>"<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/lame/<manvolnum/1//"> ]
>
>and then using &man.lame.1; as usual.

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On 2002-05-29 18:03 -0400, Chris Pepper wrote:
> 	So this raises a question I've been wondering about. Sorry if 
> it's a FAQ -- I haven't stumbled across it yet.
> 
> 	What is the dividing line between entities and tags? I'd 
> think it would be more XML-ish and reusable to use something like:
> 
> 	<citerefentry>
> 	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
> 	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
> 	</citerefentry>
> 
> 	than "&man.lame.1;". What's the dividing line that falls 
> between man pages and other tagged items, that makes man an entity 
> (in all the pages I've looked at so far, anyway)?

Reusability.  If you're going to write something only once, it
probably isn't worth the trouble to make an entity out of it, except
perhaps for stylistic reasons (we are not using <citerefentry>
directly anywhere else, so we shouldn't use it here either).

If the text that the entity substitutes is going to appear at least
twice, or more than a few times, using an entity has a few advantages.

a) If you change your mind and want to substitute something else, you
   just change the entity definition.  In this sense, entities are
   much like the #define statements of C.  You use them to define
   `magic' parts of text that are replaced by the SGML normalizer just
   like #define constants are replaced by the C preprocessor before
   compiling a C program.

b) You don't have to manually repeat stuff, which is error-prone and
   might also be boring after a while.  Most often, the text of an
   entity is far shorter than the substituted text, and you just feel
   too lazy to type the replacement text over and over again.  So you
   make an entity out of it, and use that.

- Giorgos


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On Wed, 29 May 2002 18:03:07 -0400
Chris Pepper <pepper@reppep.com> wrote:

> 	So this raises a question I've been wondering about. Sorry if 
> it's a FAQ -- I haven't stumbled across it yet.
> 
> 	What is the dividing line between entities and tags? I'd

Entities allow you to assign a name to some chunk of data, and
use that name to refer to that data.  For instance, you could
define an entire url, or copyright in an entity and use:

&copyright;

throught the document to instantly add the copyright to the
document.  Its really nice if you wish to put a large bit
of information in several documents.  Using this same idea,
you can put the date in the copyright entity, and it will
change throught the documents, instead of making modifications
to several documents, its just one modification to a single
file.


> think it would be more XML-ish and reusable to use something like:
> 
> 	<citerefentry>
> 	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
> 	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
> 	</citerefentry>
> 
> 	than "&man.lame.1;". What's the dividing line that falls 
> between man pages and other tagged items, that makes man an entity 
> (in all the pages I've looked at so far, anyway)?

Our man tags are custom to the FreeBSD project, taking the user/reader
to our
version of the specified manual page.  Many manual pages differ from
operating system to operating system (for instance, drivers) and this
lets us define a link to a man page search engine...

This also differs in fact that, the man entity is not standard in
html or DocBook for that matter (unless you define it), unlike the
usual: &copy; &trade; that works in HTML and DocBook (others?)

Catch what I'm (probly badly) trying to say?

> 
> 
> 					Thx,
> 
> 
> 					Chris Pepper
> 
> At 12:47 AM +0300 2002/05/30, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> 
> >When &man.xxx.y; references are being made I prefer the style that
> >Jeroen suggested to me a long time ago.  Instead of writing:
> 
> >  > 	Additional encoding options can be found by consulting the
> >>  -	lame man page.</para>
> >>  +	lame manual page.</para>
> >
> >Since `lame' is used in IRC to denote 'silly', 'idiot', or similar,
> >you will probably want to change this part.  Make it something like:
> >
> >	by consulting
> >	<citerefentry>
> >	  <refentrytitle>lame</refentrytitle>
> >	  <manvolnum>1</manvolnum>
> >	</citerefentry>.
> >
> >This emulates the functionality of &man.lame.1;.  You can even make
> >this a local entity in the file that references the manpage, by
> >adding to the <!DOCTYPE> element the proper stuff:
> >
> >     [ <!ENTITY man.lame.1 
> >"<citerefentry/<refentrytitle/lame/<manvolnum/1//"> ]
> >
> >and then using &man.lame.1; as usual.
> 
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--- Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good book for writing a book using XML/SGML?

Hi Alfred.

Try "Proffesional XML" by Wrox Press, and "Proffesional XSLT" by Wrox
again.  They have some good amount of content and is quality material
according to how I found.  Other than that, if you would like to use
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The W3C XML/XSLT Standard docs give good info. overall as well.
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>Number:         38728
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       How To Contribute should recommend unified diff
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
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>Arrival-Date:   Wed May 29 21:50:02 PDT 2002
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>Originator:     Pete Zaitcev
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>Description:
      The following page
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing/contrib-how.html
recommends contributions made with context diff, while in
fact nobody uses context diffs anymore. FreeBSD userland
supports unified diff. The documentation ought to be changed
to recommend unified diff.


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Synopsis: Handbook 15.3 needs mention of 3wire

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
State-Changed-By: murray
State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 01:02:50 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
I've added your text with just a few minor changes.  The website
should be updated within 24 hours.  Thanks for the submission!


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Synopsis: s/requires that TeX is installed/requires TeX to be installed/

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State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 01:10:29 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
I've made the change.  It may take up to 24 hours for the web site to
be updated.  Thanks for your submission.


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Synopsis: s/forth/fourth/ in vidcontrol man page

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State-Changed-By: murray
State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 01:15:44 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
This was fixed by Bruce A. Mah back in March.  The man page will be
correct for FreeBSD 4.6.


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Synopsis: Unclear sentence on <http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sendmail.html>

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
State-Changed-By: murray
State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 01:33:33 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
That sentence was definitely pretty confusing.  I updated it as shown
below.  It may take up to 24 hours for this change to reach the web
site.  Thanks for your submission!

-      <para>The aliases update matches the mailbox name on the left of
-	the colon, and will expand it to the target(s) on the right.  The
+      <para>The file format is simple; the mailbox name on the left
+	side of	the colon is expanded to the target(s) on the right.
+	The


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>Number:         38734
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Missing link for ipsec-must article on http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Thu May 30 02:10:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
Missing link for ipsec-must article on http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to www/docs.sgml
	

--- docs.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- docs.sgml.org	Thu May 30 10:46:08 2002
+++ docs.sgml	Thu May 30 10:52:08 2002
@@ -149,6 +149,11 @@
       <small>Tips and tricks to help you maximize the chances of getting
 	useful information from the -questions mailing list.</small></p>
 
+    <p><a href="doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/ipsec-must/index.html">Independent
+	Verification of IPSec Functionality in FreeBSD</a><br>
+      <small>A method for experimentally verifying IPSec
+	functionality.</small></p>
+
     <p><a href="doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/index.html">Java, and
         Jakarta Tomcat</a><br>
       <small>Information on setting up Java and Jakarta Tomcat on a FreeBSD
--- docs.sgml.diff ends here ---


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Synopsis: Link to a stale package in the handbook

State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
State-Changed-By: murray
State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 02:10:54 PDT 2002
State-Changed-Why: 
Packages in the documentation should be referred to in <filename
role="package">.  This package is no different than hundreds of others
in the Handbook.  It should never have been referenced with a specific
link for the package for a certain release and architecture of
FreeBSD.  The rendering for <filename role="package"> could be
enhanced to include links to download the package for different
architectures, but thats another issue.


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From: Murray Stokely <murray@FreeBSD.org>
To: murray@FreeBSD.org
Cc: shill@free.fr, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/38141: Link to a stale package in the handbook
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I hit send too soon.  I meant to note that I made the update (to
<filename>) and the website should be updated within 24 hours.
Thanks for noticing this problem.

       - Murray

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 02:12:40AM -0700, murray@FreeBSD.org wrote:
> Synopsis: Link to a stale package in the handbook
> 
> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
> State-Changed-By: murray
> State-Changed-When: Thu May 30 02:10:54 PDT 2002
> State-Changed-Why: 
> Packages in the documentation should be referred to in <filename
> role="package">.  This package is no different than hundreds of others
> in the Handbook.  It should never have been referenced with a specific
> link for the package for a certain release and architecture of
> FreeBSD.  The rendering for <filename role="package"> could be
> enhanced to include links to download the package for different
> architectures, but thats another issue.
> 
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38141

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On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 06:33:50PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> Entities allow you to assign a name to some chunk of data, and
[...]
> file.

This bit's correct.

> Our man tags are custom to the FreeBSD project, taking the user/reader
> to our version of the specified manual page.  Many manual pages differ fr=
om
> operating system to operating system (for instance, drivers) and this
> lets us define a link to a man page search engine...
>=20
> This also differs in fact that, the man entity is not standard in
> html or DocBook for that matter (unless you define it), unlike the
> usual: &copy; &trade; that works in HTML and DocBook (others?)

This bit isn't.

The various entities that we use (&man., &a., &os., &rel., &gui., ...)
are purely to cut down the amount of typing the document author has to
do, and to try and ensure consistency between different documents.  It's
got nothing to do with any links that might be automatically generated
in the documentation.

N
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Hi,

In the FreeBSD FAQ, on page 'x.html', line 1187, it says:

	"For example, you could map the 3 keys top be F13, F14, and F15, respectively."
				    	       ===

The 'top' should obviously be 'to'.

Hope that helps :)

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On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 08:18:26PM +0200, Francois Kritzinger wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In the FreeBSD FAQ, on page 'x.html', line 1187, it says:
> 
> 	"For example, you could map the 3 keys top be F13, F14, and F15, respectively."
> 				    	       ===
> 
> The 'top' should obviously be 'to'.

Spot on.  Fixed.

> Hope that helps :)

Certainly does, thanks very much!

Ceri

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Is there a reason why there is no docproj package (_not_ port)?

Installing the individual components manually is inconvenient compared with
``pkg_add -r docproj''.

There could also be a docproj-nojadetex package.

		Cheers,

		Mark.

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Synopsis: Missing link for ipsec-must article on http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html

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Change committed.  Thanks :)
The changes should be visible at the website in a few hours.


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Nik Clayton wrote:

>On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 06:33:50PM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
>
>>Entities allow you to assign a name to some chunk of data, and
>>
>[...]
>
>>file.
>>
>
>This bit's correct.
>
>>Our man tags are custom to the FreeBSD project, taking the user/reader
>>to our version of the specified manual page.  Many manual pages differ from
>>operating system to operating system (for instance, drivers) and this
>>lets us define a link to a man page search engine...
>>
>>This also differs in fact that, the man entity is not standard in
>>html or DocBook for that matter (unless you define it), unlike the
>>usual: &copy; &trade; that works in HTML and DocBook (others?)
>>
>
>This bit isn't.
>
>The various entities that we use (&man., &a., &os., &rel., &gui., ...)
>are purely to cut down the amount of typing the document author has to
>do, and to try and ensure consistency between different documents.  It's
>got nothing to do with any links that might be automatically generated
>in the documentation.
>
>N
>
Well, its sort of correct in the fact that, you can define your own 
entities...  But I did get
why the docproj uses em wrong ;)

--
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Dear sir(s),

I intend to translate the installation instructions
and the handbook (at least most important parts of it)
to finnish language. It appears, no-one else is doing
so at this moment. So I'm just letting you know, I'll
submit files when they're getting ready enough for
someone to use.

I do have a question though... I am also interested in
hosting a finnish FreeBSD website. I have two options:

1. Build my own website on a domain of my choice.

2. Build a website similar to www.freebsd.org, using
some of the graphics and style from the site,
translating articles and documentation straight from
there and host a finnish language mirror at
www.fi.freebsd.org. But for this, I would of course
need your permission, so I am asking which route I
should take (and what else I should take into
consideration). I am not going to pay for anything
(except for my ISP to host my website of course) so if
I could use the images and all around style of
www.freebsd.org for free then that would be dandy, but
if I'd have to pay for them, or am denied altogether,
then I'll just build my own site with my own
resources. 

I thank for any help!

Yours,
Jari Tuomivirta
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>Number:         38766
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Missing period in section 2.12.1 of the Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri May 31 03:40:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
Missing period in section 2.12.1 of the Handbook. Read the patch below
for more details.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to handbook/install/chapter.sgml
	

--- chapter.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- chapter.sgml.org	Fri May 31 12:27:18 2002
+++ chapter.sgml	Fri May 31 12:27:43 2002
@@ -5173,7 +5173,7 @@
 	    Console</title>
 
             <warning>
-              <para>Do not try to mount the floppy if it is write-protected</para>
+              <para>Do not try to mount the floppy if it is write-protected.</para>
             </warning>
 
   	    <indexterm>
--- chapter.sgml.diff ends here ---


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Hello!

FYU, I've noticed a typo in the release schedule (actually, the same was on
the one for 4.5).

The src tree tagged row (I guess) should have the RELENG_4_6_0_RELEASE tag
in the description field instead of RELEASE_4_6_0_RELEASE.

May be it's something one would fix some day, some release...

Best wishes,
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If memory serves me right, "Michael O. Boev" wrote:

> FYU, I've noticed a typo in the release schedule (actually, the same was on
> the one for 4.5).
> 
> The src tree tagged row (I guess) should have the RELENG_4_6_0_RELEASE tag
> in the description field instead of RELEASE_4_6_0_RELEASE.
> 
> May be it's something one would fix some day, some release...

(blush)

Fixed...it might take a day or so to show up on the Web site.
You'd think we'd get that one right, huh?

Thanks for pointing this out!

Bruce.




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>Number:         38771
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Documentation error in FAQ.
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri May 31 11:00:07 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Arthur Munn
>Release:        4.6-RC
>Organization:
>Environment:
FreeBSD pcp01372333pcs.jamisn01.pa.comcast.net 4.6-RC FreeBSD 4.6-RC #0: Thu May 23 21:37:47 EDT 2002     amunn@pcp01372333pcs.jamisn01.pa.comcast.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

>Description:
Simple error, "release", should be "releases".
>How-To-Repeat:
      
>Fix:
--- book.sgml.orig	Fri May 31 13:24:05 2002
+++ book.sgml   Fri May 31 13:25:59 2002
@@ -432,7 +432,7 @@
         </question>
 
         <answer>
-          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
             release
+          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
             releases a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that  
             there are sufficient new features and/or bug fixes to 
             justify one, and are satisfied that these new developments 
             have been tested

>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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In article <200205291718.g4THIxe8002721@intruder.bmah.org>
bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) writes:

> After a patch and a build test, the only glitch I saw was that in the
> Serial Devices section, some of the <note></note> elements need an
> arch="pc98" attribute on them; as it is right now, they "leak" out to
> the other architectures.

Oops, I have fixed the problem and committed it.

Thank you.

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The following reply was made to PR docs/38771; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@FreeBSD.org>
To: Arthur Munn <amunn@comcast.net>
Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: docs/38771: Documentation error in FAQ. 
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:07:58 -0700

 If memory serves me right, Arthur Munn wrote:
 
 > --- book.sgml.orig	Fri May 31 13:24:05 2002
 > +++ book.sgml   Fri May 31 13:25:59 2002
 > @@ -432,7 +432,7 @@
 >          </question>
 >  
 >          <answer>
 > -          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
 >              release
 > +          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
 >              releases a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that  
 >              there are sufficient new features and/or bug fixes to 
 >              justify one, and are satisfied that these new developments 
 >              have been tested
 
 Whomever decides to fix this should note that the core team doesn't 
 decide to do releases, the RE team does.  I don't know what the 
 question was, but the answer doesn't seem to reflect reality.
 
 Bruce.
 
 

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>Number:         38772
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       firewall_type feature not mentioned on Handbook's firewalls page
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri May 31 11:10:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Shannon -jj Behrens
>Release:        4.5-STABLE
>Organization:
NTT MCL, INC.
>Environment:
FreeBSD tcp.nttmcl.com 4.5-STABLE FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 24 11:26:52 PDT 2002     jj@tcp.nttmcl.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>Description:
The Handbook's page on firewalls <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/firewalls.html> does not mention the firewall_type's feature mentioned in "man rc.conf".  Since this feature makes setting up firewalls really easy, it really should be documented in the Handbook.  Of course, I may be misunderstanding something.
>How-To-Repeat:
Read <http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/firewalls.html>.
>Fix:
I'd be happy to write the documentation if some committer feels that it would be appropriate.
>Release-Note:
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>Unformatted:

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On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:07:58AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
> If memory serves me right, Arthur Munn wrote:
> 
> > --- book.sgml.orig	Fri May 31 13:24:05 2002
> > +++ book.sgml   Fri May 31 13:25:59 2002
> > @@ -432,7 +432,7 @@
> >          </question>
> >  
> >          <answer>
> > -          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
> >              release
> > +          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
> >              releases a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that  
> >              there are sufficient new features and/or bug fixes to 
> >              justify one, and are satisfied that these new developments 
> >              have been tested
> 
> Whomever decides to fix this should note that the core team doesn't 
> decide to do releases, the RE team does.  I don't know what the 
> question was, but the answer doesn't seem to reflect reality.
> Bruce.
>
 
Great, now we can fix two errors in one shot. If it doesn't get fixed this time,I will send another seperate PR for it.



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>Number:         38774
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       4.x should be 4.X in section 6.11.2 of the Handbook
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
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>Description:
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>Fix:
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@@ -1151,7 +1151,7 @@
 
       <para>Swapping over NFS is only recommended if you do not have a
 	local hard disk to swap to.  Swapping over NFS is slow and
-	inefficient in versions of FreeBSD prior to 4.x.  It is
+	inefficient in versions of FreeBSD prior to 4.X.  It is
 	reasonably fast and efficient in 4.0-RELEASE and newer.  Even
 	with newer versions of FreeBSD, NFS swapping will be limited
 	by the available network bandwidth and puts an additional
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If memory serves me right, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote:
> In article <200205291718.g4THIxe8002721@intruder.bmah.org>
> bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) writes:
> 
> > After a patch and a build test, the only glitch I saw was that in the
> > Serial Devices section, some of the <note></note> elements need an
> > arch="pc98" attribute on them; as it is right now, they "leak" out to
> > the other architectures.
> 
> Oops, I have fixed the problem and committed it.

Excellent!  I've modified my build scripts to handle the new documents; 
they're now on my snapshot site.  After a day or two (to make sure the 
automated builds are working), we can update the pointers on the main 
FreeBSD Web site.

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>Number:         38776
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       In the FAQ 4.X, 3.X, etc... should be used instead of 4.x, 3.x etc...
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri May 31 12:40:02 PDT 2002
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>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD abigail.blackend.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE #5: Sun May 12 00:30:43 CEST 2002 marc@abigail.blackend.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/ABIGAIL i386


	
>Description:
In the FAQ 4.X, 3.X, etc... should be used instead of 4.x, 3.x etc...
Read the patch below for more details.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to faq/book.sgml
	

--- book.sgml.diff begins here ---
--- book.sgml.org	Fri May 31 21:23:14 2002
+++ book.sgml	Fri May 31 21:27:12 2002
@@ -401,7 +401,7 @@
                   |                     (May 1999) (Sep 1999) (Dec 1999) (June 2000) (July 2000)
                   |
                   |  [4.0-STABLE]
- *BRANCH*        4.0  (Mar 2000) -&gt; 4.1 -&gt; 4.1.1 -&gt; 4.2 -&gt; 4.3 -&gt; 4.4 -&gt; ... future 4.x releases ...
+ *BRANCH*        4.0  (Mar 2000) -&gt; 4.1 -&gt; 4.1.1 -&gt; 4.2 -&gt; 4.3 -&gt; 4.4 -&gt; ... future 4.X releases ...
                   |
                   |              (July 2000)   (Sep 2000)   (Nov 2000)
                  \|/
@@ -1080,7 +1080,7 @@
             install FreeBSD, namely <filename>floppies/boot.flp</filename>.
             However, since release 3.1 the Project has added out-of-the-box
             support for a wide variety of hardware, which takes up more
-            space.  For 3.x and later you need two floppy images:
+            space.  For 3.X and later you need two floppy images:
             <filename>floppies/kernel.flp</filename> and
             <filename>floppies/mfsroot.flp</filename>. These images need to
             be copied onto floppies by tools like
@@ -1498,7 +1498,7 @@
             themselves, <command>bad144</command> has been removed from the
             FreeBSD source tree. If you wish to install FreeBSD 3.0 or
             later, we strongly suggest you purchase a newer disk drive. If
-            you do not wish to do this, you must run FreeBSD 2.x.</para>
+            you do not wish to do this, you must run FreeBSD 2.X.</para>
             <para>If you are seeing bad block errors with a modern IDE
             drive, chances are the drive is going to die very soon (the
             drive's internal remapping functions are no longer sufficient
@@ -2554,7 +2554,7 @@
             at boot time.</para>
 
           <para>If you are running a previous but relatively recent version
-            of FreeBSD (2.1.x or better) then you can simply enable it in
+            of FreeBSD (2.1.X or better) then you can simply enable it in
             the kernel configuration menu at installation time, otherwise
             later with <option>-c</option> at the <command>boot:</command>
             prompt. It is disabled by default, so you will need to enable
@@ -3933,7 +3933,7 @@
         </question>
 
         <answer>
-          <para>This occurs in FreeBSD 3.x with PCI sound cards. The
+          <para>This occurs in FreeBSD 3.X with PCI sound cards. The
             <devicename>pcm0</devicename> device is reserved exclusively for
             ISA-based cards so, if you have a PCI card, then you will see
             this error, and your card will appear as <devicename>pcm1</devicename>.
@@ -3954,7 +3954,7 @@
           <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>cd /dev</userinput>
 &prompt.root; <userinput>./MAKEDEV snd1</userinput></screen>
 
-          <para>This situation does not arise in FreeBSD 4.x as a lot
+          <para>This situation does not arise in FreeBSD 4.X as a lot
             of work has been done to make it more
             <emphasis>PnP-centric</emphasis> and the
             <devicename>pcm0</devicename> device is no longer reserved
@@ -3965,29 +3965,29 @@
       <qandaentry>
         <question id="pnp-not-found">
           <para>Why is my PnP card no longer found (or found as
-            <literal>unknown</literal>) since upgrading to FreeBSD 4.x?</para>
+            <literal>unknown</literal>) since upgrading to FreeBSD 4.X?</para>
         </question>
 
         <answer>
-          <para>FreeBSD 4.x is now much more <emphasis>PnP-centric</emphasis>
+          <para>FreeBSD 4.X is now much more <emphasis>PnP-centric</emphasis>
             and this has had the side effect of some PnP devices (e.g. sound
             cards and internal modems) not working even though they worked
-            under FreeBSD 3.x.</para>
+            under FreeBSD 3.X.</para>
 
           <para>The reasons for this behavior are explained by the following
             e-mail, posted to the freebsd-questions mailing list by Peter
             Wemm, in answer to a question about an internal modem that was
-            no longer found after an upgrade to FreeBSD 4.x (the comments
+            no longer found after an upgrade to FreeBSD 4.X (the comments
             in <literal>[]</literal> have been added to clarify the
             context.</para>
 
           <blockquote>
             <para>The PNP bios preconfigured it [the modem] and left it
-              laying around in port space, so [in 3.x] the old-style ISA
+              laying around in port space, so [in 3.X] the old-style ISA
               probes <quote>found</quote> it there.</para>
 
             <para>Under 4.0, the ISA code is much more PnP-centric. It was
-              possible [in 3.x] for an ISA probe to find a
+              possible [in 3.X] for an ISA probe to find a
               <quote>stray</quote> device and then for the PNP device id to
               match and then fail due to resource conflicts. So, it
               disables the programmable cards first so this double probing
@@ -4064,7 +4064,7 @@
           <para>Add the hexadecimal Vendor ID for your device in the
             correct place, save the file, rebuild your kernel, and reboot.
             Your device should now be found as an <literal>sio</literal>
-            device as it was under FreeBSD 3.x</para>
+            device as it was under FreeBSD 3.X</para>
         </answer>
       </qandaentry>
 
@@ -4719,8 +4719,8 @@
             linkend="mailing">mailing list</link> for periodic updates on
             new entries.</para>
 
-          <para>Most ports should be available for the 2.2, 3.x and 4.x
-            branches, and many of them should work on 2.1.x systems as
+          <para>Most ports should be available for the 2.2, 3.X and 4.X
+            branches, and many of them should work on 2.1.X systems as
             well. Each time a FreeBSD release is made, a snapshot of the
             ports tree at the time of release in also included in the
             <filename>ports/</filename> directory.</para>
@@ -4801,7 +4801,7 @@
 
         <answer>
           <para>You are trying to run a package built on 2.2 and later on
-            a 2.1.x system. Please take a look at the previous section and
+            a 2.1.X system. Please take a look at the previous section and
             get the correct port/package for your system.</para>
         </answer>
       </qandaentry>
@@ -5660,7 +5660,7 @@
         </question>
 
         <answer>
-          <para>This procedure is slightly different for 2.2.x and 3.x
+          <para>This procedure is slightly different for 2.2.X and 3.X
             (with the 3-stage boot) systems.</para>
 
           <para>The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your
@@ -5679,7 +5679,7 @@
 C:\BOOTSECT.BSD="FreeBSD"
 C:\="DOS"</programlisting>
 
-          <para>For 2.2.x systems this procedure assumes that DOS, NT,
+          <para>For 2.2.X systems this procedure assumes that DOS, NT,
             FreeBSD, or whatever have been installed into their respective
             fdisk partitions on the <emphasis>same</emphasis>
             disk.  This example was tested on a system where DOS &amp; NT
@@ -5711,7 +5711,7 @@
             <command>fdisk</command> command after you reconfigure them to
             boot from their native partitions.</para>
 
-          <para>For FreeBSD 3.x systems the procedure is somewhat
+          <para>For FreeBSD 3.X systems the procedure is somewhat
             simpler.</para>
 
           <para>If FreeBSD is installed on the same disk as the NT boot
@@ -8338,7 +8338,7 @@
             to access the Internet from the Windows95 box through the
             FreeBSD box. This is really just a special case of the previous
             question.</para> <para>... and the answer is yes! In FreeBSD
-            3.x, user-mode &man.ppp.8; contains a <option>-nat</option> option. If
+            3.X, user-mode &man.ppp.8; contains a <option>-nat</option> option. If
             you run &man.ppp.8; with the <option>-nat</option>,
             set <literal>gateway_enable</literal> to
             <emphasis>YES</emphasis> in <filename>/etc/rc.conf</filename>,
@@ -10922,7 +10922,7 @@
             formats for Unix:</para>
 
             <note>
-              <para>Prior to FreeBSD 3.x, FreeBSD used the a.out
+              <para>Prior to FreeBSD 3.X, FreeBSD used the a.out
                 format.</para>
             </note>
 
@@ -12326,7 +12326,7 @@
 
         <answer>
           <para>By default, the kernel address space is 256 MB on
-            FreeBSD 3.x and 1 GB on FreeBSD 4.x. If you run a
+            FreeBSD 3.X and 1 GB on FreeBSD 4.X. If you run a
             network-intensive server (e.g. a large FTP or HTTP server),
             you might find that 256 MB is not enough.</para>
 
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>Number:         38777
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       In articles 4.x, 3.x should be 4.X and 3.X
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          doc-bug
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Fri May 31 13:10:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Marc Fonvieille
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
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>Description:
In articles 4.x, 3.x should be 4.X and 3.X
Read the patch below for more details.
	
>How-To-Repeat:
	
>Fix:
Apply the patch to articles/
	

--- articles.diff begins here ---
diff -ruN articles.org/committers-guide/article.sgml articles/committers-guide/article.sgml
--- articles.org/committers-guide/article.sgml	Mon May 27 11:16:22 2002
+++ articles/committers-guide/article.sgml	Fri May 31 21:51:52 2002
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
 	  
 	  <row>	  
 	    <entry><emphasis>Noteworthy CVS Tags</emphasis></entry>
-	    <entry><literal>RELENG_4</literal> (4.x-STABLE), <literal>HEAD</literal> (-CURRENT)</entry>
+	    <entry><literal>RELENG_4</literal> (4.X-STABLE), <literal>HEAD</literal> (-CURRENT)</entry>
 	  </row>
 	</tbody>
       </tgroup>
@@ -323,7 +323,7 @@
 
           <listitem>
             <para>Check out the <filename>miscfs</filename> module as
-              it is in the 4.x branch:</para>
+              it is in the 4.X branch:</para>
 
             <screen>&prompt.user; <userinput>cvs co -rRELENG_4 miscfs</userinput></screen>
 
diff -ruN articles.org/java-tomcat/article.sgml articles/java-tomcat/article.sgml
--- articles.org/java-tomcat/article.sgml	Sat Apr 27 09:32:34 2002
+++ articles/java-tomcat/article.sgml	Fri May 31 21:53:26 2002
@@ -118,7 +118,7 @@
 
     <para>The Tomcat portion of the install is very straight forward, but
       the difficulty I had was getting Java Development Kit up and
-      running for FreeBSD 4.x, as Sun Microsystems only supplies
+      running for FreeBSD 4.X, as Sun Microsystems only supplies
       Binaries for Linux, Solaris, and Windows NT.  This means that I
       had to compile my own JDK for FreeBSD.  I began by searching for
       documentation on the Internet.  I quickly found that there is more
diff -ruN articles.org/releng/branches.ascii articles/releng/branches.ascii
--- articles.org/releng/branches.ascii	Tue Jan  1 06:25:13 2002
+++ articles/releng/branches.ascii	Fri May 31 21:54:27 2002
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
            |                                   RELENG_3
 H    ______|____   _ _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _ _    + - - - - - - +
 E   /           \ |     | |     | |     | |     | |       |   |             |
-A   |3.1-RELEASE|-|3.2R |-|3.3R |-|3.4R |-|3.5R |-| 3.5.1R|---| 3.x-STABLE  |
+A   |3.1-RELEASE|-|3.2R |-|3.3R |-|3.4R |-|3.5R |-| 3.5.1R|---| 3.X-STABLE  |
 D   \___________/ |_ _ _| |_ _ _| |_ _ _| |_ _ _| |_ _ _ _|   |             |
           |                                                   + - - - - - - +
           |
@@ -19,7 +19,7 @@
           |                                    RELENG_4 
      _____|_____   _ _ _   _ _ _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _   _ _ _    + - - - - - - +
     /           \ |     | |       | |     | |     | |     |   |             |
-    |4.0-RELEASE|-|4.1R |-|4.1.1R |-|4.2R |-|4.3R |-|4.4R |---| 4.x-STABLE  |
+    |4.0-RELEASE|-|4.1R |-|4.1.1R |-|4.2R |-|4.3R |-|4.4R |---| 4.X-STABLE  |
     \___________/ |_ _ _| |_ _ _ _| |_ _ _| |_ _ _| |_ _ _|   |             |
           |                                 ___|      |__     + - - - - - - +
           |                          _ _ _ | _ _ _   _ _ |_ _ _ __
diff -ruN articles.org/vm-design/article.sgml articles/vm-design/article.sgml
--- articles.org/vm-design/article.sgml	Fri Feb 15 00:57:13 2002
+++ articles/vm-design/article.sgml	Fri May 31 21:55:33 2002
@@ -312,7 +312,7 @@
       However, the swap management structure has had problems
       historically.</para>
 
-    <para>Under FreeBSD 3.x the swap management structure preallocates an
+    <para>Under FreeBSD 3.X the swap management structure preallocates an
       array that encompasses the entire object requiring swap backing
       store&mdash;even if only a few pages of that object are swap-backed.
       This creates a kernel memory fragmentation problem when large objects
@@ -329,7 +329,7 @@
       fly for additional swap management structures when a swapout occurs.  It
       is evident that there was plenty of room for improvement.</para>
 
-    <para>For FreeBSD 4.x, I completely rewrote the swap subsystem.  With this
+    <para>For FreeBSD 4.X, I completely rewrote the swap subsystem.  With this
       rewrite, swap management structures are allocated through a hash table
       rather than a linear array giving them a fixed allocation size and much
       finer granularity.  Rather then using a linearly linked list to keep
@@ -558,7 +558,7 @@
       <qandaentry>
 	<question>
 	  <para>What is <quote>the interleaving algorithm</quote> that you
-	    refer to in your listing of the ills of the FreeBSD 3.x swap
+	    refer to in your listing of the ills of the FreeBSD 3.X swap
 	    arrangements?</para>
 	</question>
 
@@ -574,7 +574,7 @@
 
 	  <literallayout>A B C D A B C D A B C D A B C D</literallayout>
 
-	  <para>FreeBSD 3.x uses a <quote>sequential list of free
+	  <para>FreeBSD 3.X uses a <quote>sequential list of free
 	    regions</quote> approach to accounting for the free swap areas.
 	    The idea is that large blocks of free linear space can be
 	    represented with a single list node
@@ -593,16 +593,16 @@
 	    it is to try to put that sophistication elsewhere.</para>
 
 	  <para>The fragmentation causes other problems.  Being a linear list
-	    under 3.x, and having such a huge amount of inherent
+	    under 3.X, and having such a huge amount of inherent
 	    fragmentation, allocating and freeing swap winds up being an O(N)
 	    algorithm instead of an O(1) algorithm.  Combined with other
 	    factors (heavy swapping) and you start getting into O(N^2) and
-	    O(N^3) levels of overhead, which is bad.  The 3.x system may also
+	    O(N^3) levels of overhead, which is bad.  The 3.X system may also
 	    need to allocate KVM during a swap operation to create a new list
 	    node which can lead to a deadlock if the system is trying to
 	    pageout pages in a low-memory situation.</para>
 
-	  <para>Under 4.x we do not use a sequential list.  Instead we use a
+	  <para>Under 4.X we do not use a sequential list.  Instead we use a
 	    radix tree and bitmaps of swap blocks rather than ranged list
 	    nodes.  We take the hit of preallocating all the bitmaps required
 	    for the entire swap area up front but it winds up wasting less
--- articles.diff ends here ---


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 > Description
 > 
 >      In articles 4.x, 3.x should be 4.X and 3.X
 >      Read the patch below for more details.
 
 Is this really necessary?
 
 >                   <para>Check out the <filename>miscfs</filename> module as
 >      -              it is in the 4.x branch:</para>
 >      +              it is in the 4.X branch:</para>
 
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> On Thu, 30 May 2002, Lance M.Westerhoff wrote:
> 
>>On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at 03:50  PM, Bill Moran wrote:
> 
> [ on filesystems being limited to 1TB ]
> 
>>>However, I'm not aware of any 1T limit on FreeBSD filesystems. Here's
>>>the authoritative answer:
>>>http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/install.html#AEN936
>>>If these number aren't reliable, someone who knows what the numbers
>>>really are should take responsibility for updating the FAQ.  They sure
>>>look out of date, I wonder if 4.X has increased the sizes further?
>>
>>Agreed.  There seems to be some question here.
> 
> There is no question at all. Filesystem datastructures may be able to
> address larger spaces, but the underlying drivers use 512-byte blocks
> numbered by a signed 32-bit int. It's in the code; do the math.

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 On 2002-05-31 11:10 -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:
 > If memory serves me right, Arthur Munn wrote:
 > >
 > > -          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
 > >              release
 > > +          <para>As a general principle, the FreeBSD core team only 
 > >              releases a new version of FreeBSD when they believe that  
 > >              there are sufficient new features and/or bug fixes to 
 > >              justify one, and are satisfied that these new developments 
 > >              have been tested
 >  
 > Whomever decides to fix this should note that the core team doesn't 
 > decide to do releases, the RE team does.  I don't know what the 
 > question was, but the answer doesn't seem to reflect reality.
 
 The patch of this PR doesn't apply to the FAQ.  It's not very clear to
 me what needs to be changed either.  We can change "core" to
 "release-engineering" though.
 
 How about this?
 
 %%%
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Subject: Re: docs/38771: Documentation error in FAQ.
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 > The patch of this PR doesn't apply to the FAQ. It's not very clear to me
 > what needs to be changed either. We can change "core" to 
 > "release-engineering" though.
 
 I think we should change "core" to "release-engineering" too. The original PR
 was that "release" should be "releases". The reason for that seems clear to me.
 Since they are going to be releasing more than one version, we say "The RE
 team only releases when...", instead of "The RE team only release when...".
 
 
 
 
 

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Hi,

I have a question about behavior of ls(1) with `-h' flag. It shows
like follows:

  % ls -lh /
  total 7666
  -r--r--r--   1 root  wheel       4K Apr 21  2001 COPYRIGHT
  drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel       1K May 28 15:40 bin/
  drwxr-xr-x   3 root  wheel     512B May 28 15:51 boot/
  lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel      11B May  5  2001 compat@ -> /usr/compat
  ...

but, src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/relnotes/common/new.sgml describes

  "ls(1) now accepts a -h flag, which when combined with the -l flag,
  causes file sizes to be printed with unit suffixes, such that the
  number of digits printed is less than three."

I think "the number of digits printed is less than three" means that
"digits are 1 and 2, not include 3". Is this a typo? If so, apply next
patch.
# Sorry if I'm understaning.

--- new.sgml.orig	Sat Jun  1 16:09:31 2002
+++ new.sgml	Sat Jun  1 16:09:57 2002
@@ -466,7 +466,7 @@
     <para>&man.ls.1; now accepts a <option>-h</option> flag, which
       when combined with the <option>-l</option> flag, causes file
       sizes to be printed with unit suffixes, such that the number of
-      digits printed is less than three.</para>
+      digits printed is less than four.</para>
 
     <para>&man.m4.1; now accepts a <option>-s</option> flag to cause
       it to emit <literal>#line</literal> directives for use by

----
Hideyuki KURASHINA
ac14806t@st.nagaoka-ct.ac.jp

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On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:00:05PM -0700, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>  >      In articles 4.x, 3.x should be 4.X and 3.X
>  >      Read the patch below for more details.
>  
>  Is this really necessary?
>  

hehe, well nothing is indispensable. The *current* convention is 4.X
instead of 4.x, i'm currently correcting that in my freebsd-fr work, so
i *propagate* that on the original tree :)

>  
>  Apart from increasing the size of the RCS foo,v files
>  that are kept in the repository, why would this need
>  to be changed? :P

I never saw corrections in that way, i wasn't aware of that size
problem, sorry. 

Well i have a bunch of unsubmitted PRs *laying around* : punctuation, 
convention, minor errors etc... docs can live without them, so i will 
not submit them. It will reduce my *traffic*, and i will only focus on 
the freebsd-fr cvsrepo.

Marc

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+      digits printed is less than four.</para>

Actually, I believe that correct usage is
+      digits printed is fewer than four.</para>

-r

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>Number:         38798
>Category:       docs
>Synopsis:       Bento is not mentioned as project
>Confidential:   no
>Severity:       non-critical
>Priority:       low
>Responsible:    freebsd-doc
>State:          open
>Quarter:        
>Keywords:       
>Date-Required:
>Class:          change-request
>Submitter-Id:   current-users
>Arrival-Date:   Sat Jun 01 07:20:01 PDT 2002
>Closed-Date:
>Last-Modified:
>Originator:     Vladimir I. Chukharev
>Release:        FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE i386
>Organization:
>Environment:
System: FreeBSD svak.h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD
4.6-PRERELEASE #10: Tue May 14 22:26:29 EEST 2002
root@svak.h33.erkki.ton.tut.fi:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SVAK i386

>Description:
	I think that bento should be mentioned as a project.
>How-To-Repeat:
>Fix:

A proposed patch is below.

Best regards,
V.Chukharev

====================
--- /usr/www/en/projects/projects.sgml.orig	Sat Jun  1 15:42:06 2002
+++ /usr/www/en/projects/projects.sgml	Sat Jun  1 15:47:35 2002
@@ -155,6 +155,9 @@
 <li><a href="http://FreshPorts.org/">FreshPorts</a> provides the most
up-to-date list of 
 ports and port changes.  Add your favourite ports to your watch list
and receive email
 notification of any changes.</li>
+
+<li><a href="http://bento.FreeBSD.org/">Bento</a> is a server which
checks 
+the Ports Collection and keeps package building logs and errors for
each port.</li>
 </ul>
 
 <a name="networking"></a>
>Release-Note:
>Audit-Trail:
>Unformatted:

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[Redirected to -doc]

hi,

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 07:43:30AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

> > What's the problem with referencing -STABLE's man pages instead ? IIRC
> > there're was discussion on the -doc according to modification stylesheet
> > to support references other than -CURRENT.
> 
> The release notes for -CURRENT reference the manpages for -CURRENT on
> the Web site.  The release notes for 4-STABLE reference the manpages for
> 4-STABLE on the Web site.  Exactly as it should be.
Maybe we need to think about it :-)

> (It used to be that all versions of the release notes referenced the
> manpages for the most recent release.  Clearly that doesn't work.)
Currently no, but who can stop you from modifying existing DSL to make
it reality ?

> If you're saying we should refer to 4-STABLE's manpages for those cases
> in -CURRENT where there *is* no manpage, that isn't really going to work
> too well.  As it stands right now, we lack the capability to specify
> which version of a manpage should be used on a case-by-case basis.  

Using attached patches it could become reality.

Actually I am not a docbook guru, but small portion of wish and few hours
spent to review existing stylessheets ... So, using attached patches we can
add exact  release reference to generated  man.cgi url. Updated
&man.*; entity should look like

<!ENTITY man.strings.1 "<longciterefentry/<refentrytitle/strings/<manvolnum/1/<version/4.5-stable//">

We just could ask Wolfram (who manages man.cgi) to change 4.?-stable to
4-stable in man.cgi script and replace all <citerefentry>'es of manpages
removed from -CURRENT with <longciterefentry> (I mean man-refs.ent file)

Thoughts ?

Index: freebsd.dsl
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/cvs/freebsd/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v
retrieving revision 1.64
diff -u -r1.64 freebsd.dsl
--- freebsd.dsl	27 Feb 2002 04:56:44 -0000	1.64
+++ freebsd.dsl	1 Jun 2002 15:28:35 -0000
@@ -120,9 +120,11 @@
           ;; /REFENTRY
           #f)
 
-        ; Empty function to quiet warnings
+        ; Empty functions to quiet warnings
         (define ($create-refentry-xref-link$ refentrytitle manvolnum)
           (literal ""))
+        (define ($create-long-refentry-xref-link$ refentrytitle manvolnum manversion)
+          (literal ""))
 
         (element citerefentry
           (let* ((refentrytitle (select-elements (children (current-node))
@@ -132,6 +134,28 @@
 		 (href          ($create-refentry-xref-link$
                                                  (data refentrytitle)
                                                  (data manvolnum))))
+            (if %refentry-xref-link%
+              (create-link (list (list "HREF" href))
+                (if %refentry-xref-italic%
+                  ($italic-seq$)
+                  ($charseq$)))
+              (if %refentry-xref-italic%
+                ($italic-seq$)
+                ($charseq$)))))
+
+	(element manversion (empty-sosofo))
+
+        (element longciterefentry
+          (let* ((refentrytitle (select-elements (children (current-node))
+                                                 (normalize "refentrytitle")))
+		 (manvolnum     (select-elements (children (current-node))
+						 (normalize "manvolnum")))
+		 (manversion    (select-elements (children (current-node))
+						 (normalize "manversion")))
+		 (href          ($create-long-refentry-xref-link$
+                                                 (data refentrytitle)
+                                                 (data manvolnum)
+                                                 (data manversion))))
             (if %refentry-xref-link%
               (create-link (list (list "HREF" href))
                 (if %refentry-xref-italic%
Index: freebsd41.dtd
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/cvs/freebsd/doc/share/sgml/freebsd41.dtd,v
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.4 freebsd41.dtd
--- freebsd41.dtd	27 Feb 2002 04:56:44 -0000	1.4
+++ freebsd41.dtd	1 Jun 2002 14:53:27 -0000
@@ -29,6 +29,7 @@
 <!ENTITY % local.tech.char.class "|HostID|Username|Groupname|Devicename|MakeTarget|MakeVar">
 
 <!ENTITY % local.cptr.char.mix "|CO">
+<!ENTITY % local.gen.char.class "|LongCiteRefEntry">
 
 <!-- OS Version attributes ...............................................
 
@@ -123,6 +124,19 @@
 
      In addition, allow our custom addition, <makevar> -->
 <!ELEMENT Filename - - (%smallcptr.char.mix;|Envar|MakeVar)+>
+
+<!-- Extend <citerefentry> to allow to reference manpage of exact release -->
+<!-- <!ELEMENT ManVersion - - ((%word.char.mix;)+)> -->
+<!ELEMENT ManVersion - - (#PCDATA)>
+<!ATTLIST ManVersion
+                %common.attrib;
+>
+
+<!ELEMENT LongCiteRefEntry - - (RefEntryTitle, ManVolNum?, ManVersion)>
+<!ATTLIST LongCiteRefEntry
+                %common.attrib;
+>
 
 <!-- ...................................................................... -->
 <!-- General entities for reuse ........................................... -->

Index: freebsd.dsl
===================================================================
RCS file: /home/cvs/freebsd/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 freebsd.dsl
--- freebsd.dsl	2 Sep 2001 02:37:50 -0000	1.14
+++ freebsd.dsl	1 Jun 2002 14:29:51 -0000
@@ -56,6 +56,14 @@
         (define ($create-refentry-xref-link$ refentrytitle manvolnum)
 	  (string-append "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query="
 			 refentrytitle "&" "sektion=" manvolnum))
+
+        <!-- Specify how to generate the man page link HREF with FreeBSD
+             release reference -->
+        (define ($create-long-refentry-xref-link$ refentrytitle manvolnum manversion)
+	  (string-append "http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query="
+			 refentrytitle "&" "sektion=" manvolnum "&"
+			 "manpath=" manversion))
+
       ]]>
 
       <!-- More aesthetically pleasing chapter headers for print output --> 

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On 2002-06-01 10:06 +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:00:05PM -0700, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >  >      In articles 4.x, 3.x should be 4.X and 3.X
> >  >      Read the patch below for more details.
> >  
> >  Is this really necessary?
> >  
> 
> hehe, well nothing is indispensable. The *current* convention is 4.X
> instead of 4.x, i'm currently correcting that in my freebsd-fr work, so
> i *propagate* that on the original tree :)

Which is nice :)

> >  
> >  Apart from increasing the size of the RCS foo,v files
> >  that are kept in the repository, why would this need
> >  to be changed? :P
> 
> I never saw corrections in that way, i wasn't aware of that size
> problem, sorry.

Yes, well, all commits increase the file of the RCS files in the
repository.  There is nothing wrong though with making changes like
this.  I'm just not sure about making changes like this to all the
files of doc/*, which change just one letter in a few dozen lines.

> Well i have a bunch of unsubmitted PRs *laying around* : punctuation, 
> convention, minor errors etc... docs can live without them, so i will 
> not submit them.

Far be it from me that I would be the cause for you to stop submitting
changes.  I've committed far too many of your changes to say that I
don't like them :)

You should really keep the good work coming!

- Giorgos


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On 2002-06-01 07:16 -0700, Ross Lippert wrote:
> 
> +      digits printed is less than four.</para>
> 
> Actually, I believe that correct usage is
> +      digits printed is fewer than four.</para>

My intuition says that there are two ways to write this:

	three or less

	less than four

But, I'll wait and see what other people have to say, who are more
keen on English grammar.

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>My intuition says that there are two ways to write this:
>	three or less
>	less than four
Hey if someone can show me documentation that supports this usage,
then I'll stop worrying about it, but for until that happens, I'll
think that fewer is what you should apply to whole numbers and
less only applies to continuous.

three or fewer

fewer than four


-r

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On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 07:26:57PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> Far be it from me that I would be the cause for you to stop submitting
> changes.  I've committed far too many of your changes to say that I
> don't like them :)
>
Sorry, i was in a *bad mood*, i removed by mistake the complete 
translation of Chapter 2 from my disk :) but i only lost last section,
so it wasn't too bad.

Don't worry, I am not going to let you without work, as would say Jim 
'Keep him busy!' ;))

See you soon on the waves,
Marc

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On 2002-06-01 09:36 -0700, Ross Lippert wrote:
> >My intuition says that there are two ways to write this:
> >	three or less
> >	less than four
> Hey if someone can show me documentation that supports this usage,
> then I'll stop worrying about it, but for until that happens, I'll
> think that fewer is what you should apply to whole numbers and
> less only applies to continuous.
> 
> three or fewer
> 
> fewer than four

I'll have to dig some English grammar books that have been rusting in
bookshelves for ages. See, this is why I love this list... it makes
things like these books, that keep aging slowly in my house, to be
useful again!

Seriously now, I don't know.  I'll have to check out a grammar/syntax
book to make sure what the 'yours truly & pedantically anal-retentive'
way of writing this is ;)

- Giorgos


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I have a video chapter I would like to submit to deal the lack of
anything about video under freebsd, which is the pr in the subject
line.

I am new to the doc project and I'd like to have some guidance as to
how to submit it, and get some people to look at it and give me
pointers on style and docproj fine-points.  I'm attaching it below.

Specifically, I need advice on which commands are appropriate to
man-entity-ify and wwhich ones are not.  I don't know much about what
the rationale is behind man-entities in the handbook sgml.

-r

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<chapter id="video">
  <chapterinfo>
    <authorgroup>
      <author>
        <firstname>Ross</firstname>
	<surname>Lippert</surname>
	<contrib>Contributed by </contrib>
      </author>
    </authorgroup>
    <!-- 31 May 2002 -->
  </chapterinfo>

  <title>Video</title>

  <sect1 id="video-synopsis">
    <title>Synopsis</title>

    <para>With some willingness to experiment, FreeBSD can support
      playback of video files and DVD's.  The number of applications to
      encode, re-encode, and playback various video media is more
      limited than the number of sound applications.  For example as of
      this writing, there is no good transcoding application in the
      FreeBSD Ports Collection, which could be use to interconvert
      between formats, as there is with <filename
      role="package">audio/sox</filename>.  However, the software
      landscape in this area is changing rapidly.</para>

    <para>After reading this chapter, you will know:
    <itemizedlist>
      <listitem><para>Some ways in which video is supported by XFree86.</para></listitem>
      <listitem><para>Some ports/packages of video players/encoders which give good results.</para></listitem>
      <listitem><para>How to playback DVD's, .mpg and .avi files.</para></listitem>
      <listitem><para>How to rip DVD video tracks into data files.</para></listitem>
    </itemizedlist>
    </para>

    <para>Before reading this chapter, you should:</para>

    <itemizedlist>
      <listitem><para>Know how to configure your soundcard (<xref
        linkend="sound">).</para></listitem>
      <listitem><para>Know how to configure and install XFree86 (<xref
        linkend="x11">)
	<footnote>
		<para>It is assumed that XFree86 4.X be used.  XFree86 3.X
		may work, but this author has not made the attempt</para>
	</footnote>.
	</para>
	</listitem>
    </itemizedlist>
  </sect1>

  <sect1 id="video-interface">
    <title>Determining Video capabilities</title>

    <indexterm><primary>Xvideo</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>Xv</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>sdl</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>SDL</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>dga</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>DGA</primary></indexterm>
      <indexterm>
        <primary>kernel configuration</primary>
        <secondary>options CPU_ENABLE_SSE</secondary>
      </indexterm>
      <indexterm>
         <primary>kernel configuration</primary>
         <secondary>options USER_LDT</secondary>
      </indexterm>

    <para>Video display under X11 suffers from a multitude of
    possibilities, what will each works is largely hardware dependent
    (mostly on the video card, and a little on the CPU).  Each method
    described below will have varying quality across different
    hardware.  Secondly, the rendering of video in X11 is a topic
    receiving a lot of attention lately, and with each version of
    XFree86 there may be significant improvement.</para>

    <para>A list of common video interfaces:</para>
    <orderedlist>
    <listitem>
      <para> X11 : normal X11 output using shared memory</para>
    </listitem>
    <listitem>
      <para> XVideo : an extension to the X11
      interface which supports video in any X11 drawable.</para>
    </listitem>
    <listitem>
      <para> SDL : the Simple Directmedia Layer</para>
    </listitem>
    <listitem>
      <para> DGA : the Direct Graphics Access</para>
    </listitem>
    <listitem>
      <para> SVGAlib : low level console graphics layer</para>
    </listitem>
    </orderedlist>

    <para>Before you begin, you should know the model of the video
      card you have and the chip it uses.  While XFree86 supports a
      wide variety of video cards, a much smaller number give good
      playback performance.  To obtain a list of extensions supported
      by the X-server using your card use the command
      &amp;man.xdpyinfo.1; while X11 is running.</para>

    <para>It is a good idea to have a short MPEG file which can be
      treated as a test file for evaluating various players and
      options.  Since some players default or are hardcoded to look
      for DVD media in <filename>/dev/dvd</filename>, it is also a
      good idea to have this symlinked to the appropriate device, for
      example 
      <screen>&prompt.root; ln -sf /dev/acd0c /dev/dvd
&prompt.root; ln -sf /dev/racd0c /dev/rdvd</screen>
      on FreeBSD-4.X and
      <screen>&prompt.root; ln -sf /dev/acd0c /dev/dvd</screen>
      on FreeBSD-5.X.
      </para>

    <para>Some of the packages discussed in the next section rely on the
      following kernel options:
      <programlisting>option CPU_ENABLE_SSE
option USER_LDT</programlisting>
      and will not build correctly until you have rebooted with the new
      kernel.  Also, setting the &amp;man.sysctl.1; variables as below
      <programlisting>kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864
kern.ipc.shmall=32768</programlisting>
      to enhance the shared memory X11 interface.
      </para>

    <sect2 id="video-interface-xvideo">
    <title>XVideo</title>

      <para>XFree86 4.X has an extension called
        <emphasis>XVideo</emphasis> (aka Xvideo aka Xv aka xv) which
        allows video to be directly displayed in drawable objects
        through a special acceleration.  This extension provides very
        good quality playback on even low-end machines (for example my
        PIII 400Mhz laptop). Unfortunately, the list of cards in which
        this feature is supported <quote>out of the box</quote> is
        currently:</para>
      
        <orderedlist>
	<listitem>
	   <para>3DFX Voodoo 3</para>
        </listitem>
        <listitem>
           <para>Intel i810 and i815</para>
        </listitem>
        <listitem>
          <para>some S3 chips (such as Savage/IX and Savage/MX)</para>
        </listitem>
        </orderedlist>

      <para>If your card is not one of these, don't be disappointed yet.
      XFree86 4.X adds new xv capabilities with each release
      <footnote>
        <para>A popular familiar graphics card with generally very good
         XFree86 performance, nVidia, has yet to release the specifications
	 on their XVideo support to the XFree86 team.  It may be some time
	 before XFree86 fully support XVideo for these cards.</para>
      </footnote>.
      To check whether the extension is running, use <command>xvinfo</command>.

        <screen>&prompt.user; xvinfo</screen>

      If the result looks like:
<screen>X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
  Adaptor #0: "Savage Streams Engine"
    number of ports: 1
    port base: 43
    operations supported: PutImage 
    supported visuals:
      depth 16, visualID 0x22
      depth 16, visualID 0x23
    number of attributes: 5
      "XV_COLORKEY" (range 0 to 16777215)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 2110)
      "XV_BRIGHTNESS" (range -128 to 127)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
      "XV_CONTRAST" (range 0 to 255)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 128)
      "XV_SATURATION" (range 0 to 255)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 128)
      "XV_HUE" (range -180 to 180)
              client settable attribute
              client gettable attribute (current value is 0)
    maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 1024
    Number of image formats: 7
      id: 0x32595559 (YUY2)
        guid: 59555932-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
        bits per pixel: 16
        number of planes: 1
        type: YUV (packed)
      id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
        guid: 59563132-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
        bits per pixel: 12
        number of planes: 3
        type: YUV (planar)
      id: 0x30323449 (I420)
        guid: 49343230-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
        bits per pixel: 12
        number of planes: 3
        type: YUV (planar)
      id: 0x36315652 (RV16)
        guid: 52563135-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
        bits per pixel: 16
        number of planes: 1
        type: RGB (packed)
        depth: 0
        red, green, blue masks: 0x1f, 0x3e0, 0x7c00
      id: 0x35315652 (RV15)
        guid: 52563136-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
        bits per pixel: 16
        number of planes: 1
        type: RGB (packed)
        depth: 0
        red, green, blue masks: 0x1f, 0x7e0, 0xf800
      id: 0x31313259 (Y211)
        guid: 59323131-0000-0010-8000-00aa00389b71
        bits per pixel: 6
        number of planes: 3
        type: YUV (packed)
      id: 0x0
        guid: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
        bits per pixel: 0
        number of planes: 0
        type: RGB (packed)
        depth: 1
        red, green, blue masks: 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
	</screen>

    then XVideo is supported for your card.  Also note that
    the formats listed (YUV2, YUV12, etc) are not present with
    every implementation of Xvideo and their absense may hinder some
    players.</para>

    <para>If the result looks like:
<screen>X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
no adaptors present
</screen>

      Then XVideo is probably not supported for your card.</para>

    <para>If XVideo is not supported for your card, this only means
      that it will be more difficult for your display to meet the
      computational demands of rendering video.  Depending on your
      video card and processor, though, you might still be able to
      have a satisfying experience.  You probably should read about
      ways to improving performance in the advanced reading <xref
      linkend="video-further-reading">.

    </sect2>

    <sect2 id="video-interface-SDL">
    <title>Simple Directmedia Layer</title>

    <para>The Simple Directmedia Layer, SDL, was intended to be a
      porting layers between Microsoft Windows, BeOS, and Unix,
      allowing cross-platform applications to be developed which made
      efficient use of sound and graphics.  The SDL layer provides a
      low-level abstraction to the hardware which can sometimes be
      more efficient than the X11 interface.</para>

    <para>The SDL can be found at <filename role="package">sdl12</filename></para>

    </sect2>

    <sect2 id="video-interface-DGA">
    <title>Direct Graphics Access</title>

    <para>Direct Graphics Access is an XFree86 extension which allows
      a program to bypass the X-server and directly alter the
      framebuffer.  Because it relies on a low level memory mapping to
      effect this sharing, programs using it must must be run as
      <username>root</username></para>

    <para>The DGA extension can be tested and benchmarked by
      &amp;man.dga.1;.  When <command>dga</command> is running, it
      changes the colors of the display whenever a key is pressed.  To
      quit, use <keycap>q</keycap>.</para>

    </sect2>

  </sect1>

  <sect1 id="video-ports">
    <title>Ports and Packages Dealing with Video</title>

    <indexterm><primary>video ports</primary></indexterm>
    <indexterm><primary>video packages</primary></indexterm>

    <para>This section will discuss the software available from the
      FreeBSD Ports Collection which can be used for video playback.
      Video playback is a very active area of software development,
      and the capabilities of various applications are bound to
      diverge somewhat from the descriptions given here.</para>

    <para>Firstly, it is important to know that most of the video
      applications which run of FreeBSD were developed as Linux
      applications, originating in the past year.  For this reason,
      they are both, very experimental and also riddled with
      Linux-isms which might prevent them from working at full
      efficiency on FreeBSD.</para>

    <para>By "experimental", I mean that you can expect re-encoders,
      players, and DVD decrypters to all have some major bugs, or
      interoperability problems with other programs.  Here is a short
      list of the sorts of things I mean:

      <orderedlist>

      <listitem><para>An application cannot playback a file which another
        application produced.</para></listitem> 

      <listitem><para>An application cannot playback a file which the
        application itself produced.</para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>The same application on two different machines,
        rebuilt on each machine for that machine, plays back the same
        file differently </para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>A seemingly trivial filter like 
        rescaling of the image size
        results in very bad artifacts from a buggy rescaling routine.
        </para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>Application always dumping core.</para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>Documentation is not installed with the port and can
        be found either on the web or under <filename>${PORTPATH}/work/
	</filename>.</para></listitem>

      </orderedlist>
      </para>

    <para>By "Linux-isms", I mean that there are some issues resulting
      from the way some standard libraries are implemented in the
      Linux distributions, or some features of the Linux kernel which
      have been assumed by the authors of the applications, because
      that is where the authors are primarily developing.  These
      issues may not be noticed and worked around by the port
      maintainers which can lead to some problems like these:
       
      <orderedlist>

      <listitem><para>The use of <filename>/proc/cpuinfo</filename> to detect
        processor characteristics.</para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>A misuse of threads which causes a program to hang upon
        completion than truly terminate.</para></listitem>

      <listitem><para>Software not yet in the FreeBSD Ports Collection
	which is commonly used in conjunction with the application.</para>
	</listitem>

      </orderedlist>

      So far, these application developers have been cooperative with
      port maintainers to minimize the work-arounds needed for
      port-ing.
      </para>

    <sect2 id="video-mplayer">
      <title>MPlayer</title>

      <para>MPlayer is a recently developed and rapidly developing
        video player.  The goals of the MPlayer team are speed and
        flexibility on Linux and other UN*X's.
        The project was started when the team founder
	got fed up with bad playback performance on then
        available players.  Some would say that
        interface has been sacrificed for streamlined design,
	but once you
        get used to the command line options and the key-stroke
        controls, it works very well.</para>

      <sect3 id="video-mplayer-building">
        <title>Building MPlayer</title>
        <indexterm><primary>mplayer</primary>
	           <secondary>making</secondary></indexterm>

        <para>MPlayer resides in <filename
          role="package">graphics/mplayer</filename>.  MPlayer
          performs a variety of hardware checks during the build
          process, resulting in a binary which will not be portable
          from one system to another.  Thus it is important to build
          it from ports and not to use a binary package(though work is
          being done to make it more auto-detecting).  Additionally, a
          number of options can be specified in the
          <command>make</command>, as you might see when you start:
          </para>

	<screen>&prompt.root; cd /usr/ports/graphics/mplayer
&prompt.root; make
You can enable additional compilation optimizations
by defining WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS
You can enable GTK GUI by defining WITH_GUI.
You can enable DVD support by defining WITH_DVD.
You can enable SVGALIB support by defining WITH_SVGALIB.
You can enable VORBIS sound support by defining WITH_VORBIS.
You can enable XAnim DLL support by defining WITH_XANIM.
</screen>

        <para>If you have <filename
          role="package">x11-toolkits/gtk12</filename> installed, then
          you might as well enable to GUI.  Otherwise, it is not worth
          the effort.  If you intend to play (possibly CSS encoded) DVD's with
          MPlayer you must enable to DVD support option here
	  <footnote><para>SOME SORT OF DISCLAIMER ABOUT CSS HERE</para>
	  </footnote>.  For example:

        <screen>&prompt.root; make WITH_DVD=yes WITH_SVGALIB=yes</screen>
	</para>

        <para>As of this writing, the MPlayer port will build its HTML
          documentation and one executable,
          <command>mplayer</command>.  It can also be made to build an
          encoder, <command>mencoder</command>, which is a tool for
          re-encoding video.  A modification to the
          <filename>Makefile</filename> can enable it.  It may be
          enabled in subsequent versions of the port.</para>

        <para>The HTML documentation to MPlayer is very informative.
          If the reader finds the information on video hardware and
          interfaces in thie chapter lacking, the MPlayer
          documentation is a very thorough alternative.  I urge it's
          reading by anyone wishing to obtain expertise in UN*X
          video.</para>

      </sect3>

      <sect3 id="video-mplayer-using">
        <title>Using mplayer</title>
        <indexterm><primary>mplayer</primary>
	           <secondary>use</secondary></indexterm>

        <para>Any user of mplayer must set up a
          <filename>.mplayer</filename> subdirectory directory of her
          home directory.  This can currently be done by
          <screen>&prompt.user; cd /usr/ports/graphics/mplayer
&prompt.user; make install-user</screen>
          which will create the necessary subdirectory.
        </para>

	<para>The command options for <command>mplayer</command> are
	  listed in the manual page. For more detail
	  there is HTML documentation.  In this section, we will give
	  some of the common use cases.</para>

	<para>To play from file, such as
	  <filename>testfile.avi</filename> through an XVideo
	  interface, 
	  <screen>&prompt.user; mplayer -vo xv testfile.avi</screen>
	  through the SDL interface,
	  <screen>&prompt.user; mplayer -vo sdl testfile.avi</screen>
	  through X11,
	  <screen>&prompt.user; mplayer -vo x11 testfile.avi</screen>
	  through DGA (as root),
	  <screen>&prompt.root; mplayer -vo dga testfile.avi</screen>
	  through DGA via SDL,
	  <screen>&prompt.root; mplayer -vo 'sdl:dga' testfile.avi</screen>
	  It is worth trying all of these options, as their relative
	  performance depends on many factors and will vary significantly
	  with hardware.
	  </para>

	<para>To play from a DVD, replace the
	 <filename>testfile.avi</filename> with <option>-dvd
	 &lt;N&gt;</option> where &lt;N&gt; is the track number to
	 play.  For example,
	  <screen>&prompt.root; mplayer -vo dga -dvd 2</screen>
	 plays track 2 from <filename>/dev/dvd</filename>.</para>

	<para>To stop, pause, advance and so on, consult the keybindings
	  output by running <command>mplayer -h</command>
	  or in the manual page.</para>

        <para>Additional important options for playback are:
          <option>-fs -zoom</option> which engages the fullscreen mode
          and <option>-framedrop</option> which helps performance.
          </para>

	<para>In order for the mplayer command line to not become too
	  large, a user can create a file
	  <filename>.mplayer/config</filename> and set default options
	  there: <programlisting>vo=xv fs=yes zoom=yes</programlisting>
	  (Of course, do this in root's home directory if you plan on
	  using dga).
          </para>

	<para>Finally, to rip a DVD track into a .vob file do,
	  <screen>&prompt.root; mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile out.vob -dvd 2</screen>
	  which writes track 2 from <filename>/dev/dvd</filename> to
	  <filename>out.vob</filename>.  The output file will be MPEG and
	  can be manipulated by the other packages discussed in this
	  section.</para>

      </sect3>
      <sect3 id="video-mencoder">
        <title>mencoder</title>
        <indexterm>
	  <primary>mencoder</primary>
	</indexterm>

	<para>
	 If you opt to install <command>mencoder</command> when you
	 built the port, be forewarned that it is still quite
	 experimental.</para>

	<para>
	 To use <command>mencoder</command> it is a good idea to
	 familiarize yourself with the options from the HTML
	 documentation.  There are innummerable ways to improve
	 quality, lower bitrate, and change formats.  However, here
	 are a couple of examples to get you going:

	 <screen>&prompt.user; mencoder input.avi -oac copy -ovc copy -o output.avi</screen>

	 should simply copy <filename>input.avi</filename> to
	 <filename>output.avi</filename>, but it is easy to find
	 examples where the output is unplayable even by <command>
	 mplayer</command>.

	 <screen>&prompt.user; mencoder input.avi -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=192 \
	 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq -o output.avi</screen>

	 will re-encode <filename>input.avi</filename> in the MPEG4
	 codec with MPEG3 audio encoding (<filename role="package">
	 audio/lame</filename> is required).  This actually produces
	 playable output.

	 Of course, <filename>input.avi</filename> can be replaced with
	 <option>-dvd 1 /dev/dvd</option> and run as root.
	 </para>

    </sect2>

    <sect2 id="video-xine">
    <title>Xine</title>

    <para>Xine is a project of wide scope aiming not only at being an
     all in one video solution, but also in producing a reusable base
     library and a modular executable which can be extended with
     plugins.  It comes both as a package and as a port, <filename
     role="package">graphics/xine</filename>.</para>

    <para>The good news is that the above is pretty much true.  Xine
     is still very rough around the edges, but it is clearly off to a
     good start.  In practice, Xine requires either a fast CPU with a
     fast video card, or support for the XVideo extension.  The GUI is
     usable, but a bit clumsy.  </para>

    <para>As of this writing, there is no input module shipped with
     Xine which will play CSS encoded DVD's.  There are third party
     builds which do have modules for this built in them, but none
     of these are in the FreeBSD Ports Collection.  </para>

    <para>Compared to MPlayer, Xine does more for the user, but at the
      same time, takes some of the more fine-grained control away from
      the user.  Xine also may perform much worse on the non-XVideo
      interfaces and has very few good alternatives to it.  The Xine
      FAQ highly recommends that you have a video card which supports
      it.</para>
     
    <para>Xine can be started by itself

      <screen>&prompt.user; xine</screen>

      and the menus can be used to navigate to a file, or it can be
      started with the command line

      <screen>&prompt.user; xine -g -p mymovie.avi</screen>

      to start up without the gui and play a file.</para>

    </sect2>

    <sect2 id="video-ports-transcode">
    <title>Transcode</title>

    <para>Transcode is not a player, but a suite of tools for
      re-encoding .avi and .mpg files.  With Transcode, one has the
      ability to merge video files, repair broken files, using command
      line tools with <filename>stdin/stdout</filename> stream
      interfaces. </para>

    <para>Like MPlayer, Transcode is very
      experimental software which must be build from the port
      <filename role="package">graphics/transcode</filename>.  Using
      a great many options to the <command>make</command>.  I recommend:
      <screen>&prompt.root; make WITH_LIBMPEG2=yes</screen>
      or, if you plan to install <filename role="package">graphics/avifile
      </filename>, do 
      <screen>&prompt.root; make WITH_AVIFILE=yes WITH_LIBMPEG2=yes</screen>
      and possibly adding <option>WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes</option>.</para>

    <para>Here are some examples of <command>transcode</command> fir
      video conversion:

      <screen>&prompt.user; transcode -i input.vob -x vob -V -Z 320x240 -y opendivx -N 0x55 -o output.avi</screen>
      resizes and coverts <filename>input.vob</filename> to a DiVX (MPEG4)
      AVI file.
      <screen>&prompt.user; transcode -i input.vob -x vob -V -Z 320x240 -y mpeg -N 0x55 -o output.tmp
&prompt.user; tcmplex -o output.mpg -i output.tmp.m1v -p output.tmp.mpa -m 1</screen>
      creates an MPEG video file (which is a very portable video format
      compared to the various AVI formats

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