From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 29 9:48:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C6C37B401; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from md2.gx163.net (md2.gx163.net [202.103.252.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC44343E65; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from qin11@yl.gx.cninfo.net) Received: from dirgame ([218.21.86.89]) by md2.gx163.net (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.0-GA) with ESMTP id ACA14647 (AUTH qin11); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 00:48:20 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200209291648.ACA14647@md2.gx163.net> Reply-To: qin11 From: qin11 Subject: 推荐给你 Date: Mon,30 Sep 2002 00:46:34 +0800 X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 都是网民，把挣钱的机会也推荐给你。加入的网友，均可免费获得100万邮址。 1、《蜘蛛网》---http://buy66.yeah.net (或http://linmoney.onchina.net) (推荐) 2、《帝杰》 ---http://buy88.yeah.net (或http://winmoney.onchina.net) 　　说正经的，赶快加入吧！！你一定不会失望的！说实话，当时我也是抱着试试看的态度加入的，反正费用也不多啊！就当玩玩网络游戏啦！没想到简 简单单宣传宣传，真能挣很多钱呀！ 不用担心了！你想，中国有几千万网民，通过这种树状的赚钱结构，你可以赚到很多钱！ 现在加入是个好时机，现在有越来越多的中国朋友加入，但和欧美相比，比例实在太小，这就说明这里有巨大的潜力， 什么东西都是越早进入的人越收益，这个系统也不例外，快一点加入，就快一点收钱。 记住地方了。 1、《蜘蛛网》---http://buy66.yeah.net (或http://linmoney.onchina.net) (推荐) 2、《帝杰》 ---http://buy88.yeah.net (或http://winmoney.onchina.net) 通过以上网址加入的网友，均可免费获得100万邮址。 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 29 21:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7265237B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA4C43E4A for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8U4o6Co019549 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8U4o672019548; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3213B37B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw (ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.209.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9306643E3B for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkwu@ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw (wkwu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8U4mkWb057176 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:46 +0800 (CST) Received: (from wkwu@localhost) by ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id g8U4mkcs057175; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:46 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <200209300448.g8U4mkcs057175@ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:46 +0800 (CST) From: wkwu@csie.nctu.edu.tw Reply-To: wkwu@csie.nctu.edu.tw To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43502 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Sep 29 21:50:02 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wei-Kai Wu >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE i386 >Organization: Kavalan >Environment: FreeBSD 4.7-RC >Description: At the bottom of manual page ZNEW(1), the BUGS section: Znew does not maintain the time stamp with the -P option if cpmod(1) is not available and touch(1) does not support the -r option. It should be the "chmod(1)" instead of "cpmod(1)". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 29 22: 3:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AAF37B401; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw (mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.17.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9764843E4A; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:03:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkwu@mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw (wkwu@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8U52vgO051025; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:57 +0800 (CST) Received: (from wkwu@localhost) by mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8U52vX3051024; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:57 +0800 (CST) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:57 +0800 From: Wei-Kai Wu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Message-ID: <20020930050257.GA51001@mail.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <200209300448.g8U4mkcs057175@ccbsd13.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <200209300450.g8U4o24s019523@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200209300450.g8U4o24s019523@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I made a mistake. Please close this pr. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 29 22: 8:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6855F37B401; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD0E43E6A; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8U58rCo027892; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8U58rYV027888; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:08:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200209300508.g8U58rYV027888@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wkwu@csie.nctu.edu.tw, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 29 22:08:28 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Closed at the submitters request. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43502 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 29 22:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8101437B401 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6DD43E42 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8U5A3Co028008 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8U5A3r7028007; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209300510.g8U5A3r7028007@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Wei-Kai Wu Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Reply-To: Wei-Kai Wu Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43502; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Wei-Kai Wu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:57 +0800 I made a mistake. Please close this pr. Thanks! 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Thanks for the submission. It may take up to 24 hours for the web site to be updated. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43261 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 7:10:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7639D37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DD243E42; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UEAmCo024092; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UEAlvT024088; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200209301410.g8UEAlvT024088@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43260: [PATCH] various fixes for ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] various fixes for ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 07:10:01 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Your changes have been submitted. I also noticed some other problems in that chapter, and corrected some of them. If you want to spend some more time on this, there is a lot of very poor English grammar that could be improved. Thanks for your submissions! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 7:18:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566A237B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094A743E3B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UEIDCo026158; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UEIDpi026154; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200209301418.g8UEIDpi026154@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42780: [PATCH] adding entries to the index for desktop chapter Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] adding entries to the index for desktop chapter State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 07:17:49 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Excellent. I've committed your patch without modifications. Thanks for the submission. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42780 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 7:32:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B43437B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1828743E6A; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:32:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UEW8Co034668; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:32:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UEVu35034660; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200209301431.g8UEVu35034660@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@unixpages.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42043: [PATCH] Correct contact information for Daemon News Mall and add it to the list of DVD publishers in the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Correct contact information for Daemon News Mall and add it to the list of DVD publishers in the handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 07:31:15 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Thanks. The address has been updated. As described previously by keramida, we'll add them to the DVD section once they ship a DVD. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42043 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 7:43:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D6E37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (www.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B39343E42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 05BD52E89B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:43:14 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: scud Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Developer's Handbook Message-ID: <20020930074314.N58863@freebsdmall.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from scud@phucked.org on Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 11:44:55AM -0500 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 27, 2002 at 11:44:55AM -0500, scud wrote: > Since I dont have a printer I'm wanting to take the Developer's Handbook in one of its formats to > Kinkos to get it printed. I asked around and said they're stiff about copyrighted things. The DH I've printed the Handbook at Kinko's several times. Make sure you also pay for the cheap spiral binding. I've never had any trouble about the copyright. As Gary pointed out, it is definitely allowed by the BSD License. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 7:48:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E3F37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (www.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5E943E65 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id E46872E89B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:48:32 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: ArterZ Bugorski Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD PDF Message-ID: <20020930074832.O58863@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020926011758.5959.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020926011758.5959.qmail@web10305.mail.yahoo.com>; from captainpinko@yahoo.com on Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:17:58PM -0700 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 06:17:58PM -0700, ArterZ Bugorski wrote: > i download the PDF of the BSD Handbook and found that > the index didn't link to any of the sections nor was > there ayny bookmarks. For my own use i have added > them, and i was wondering do you want me to send you > guys a copy of it? i find it much more convient so i > thought i would offer it to anyone else who was interested Thanks for the offer. You created this with Adobe Acrobat? We don't currently use any commercial software to build the Handbook. It is authored in SGML and then converted to various formats (including PDF) automatically by our build tools. We would be very interested in fixing our toolchain so that it supports PDF bookmarks. I believe that there have been discussions about this on some of the jade mailing lists. If you are interested in helping out, we would really appreciate it, but the learning curve is steep. Adding bookmarks to the Handbook in a non-automated fashion isn't very interesting, because it will be out of date with the newest changes almost immediately. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 8: 8:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7417137B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F243E65; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UF8SCo049905; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UF8SIE049901; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200209301508.g8UF8SIE049901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@unixpages.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42054: [PATCH] Remove 'Thomas Graichen' from the additional contributors section as he is a FreeBSD developer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Remove 'Thomas Graichen' from the additional contributors section as he is a FreeBSD developer State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 08:06:06 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Thanks, I've committed your changes. It may take up to 24 hours for the web site to be updated. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42054 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 8:17:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4CB37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CEB43E75; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UFHWCo052132; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UFHVuq052128; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200209301517.g8UFHVuq052128@freefall.freebsd.org> To: murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, gioria@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42210: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ascii is not up to date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/branches.ascii is not up to date Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->gioria Responsible-Changed-By: murray Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 08:16:53 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Submitter is a committer. Maybe he can update this file himself? ;) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42210 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 8:25:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45ACE37B407 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (www.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9B943E6E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 51DE82E89B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:55:03 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: Christian Brueffer Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: authors.ent policy? Message-ID: <20020930075502.P58863@freebsdmall.com> References: <20020916211210.GC1674@unixpages.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020916211210.GC1674@unixpages.org>; from chris@unixpages.org on Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 11:12:10PM +0200 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 11:12:10PM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: > About ten people have departed from the project and I wonder if they should > be removed from the file, since a nonexistant email address is displayed, when > these entities are used (if they're used at all). That's not really necessary. Being in authors.ent doesn't have anything to do with being an active committer or anything. It is simply a file that makes it easier to reference peoples names in the documentation; whether they are an active committer, a contributor, or someone who vanished from the face of the earth years ago. Removing the entity and adding that person's name into the documentation in all of the N places it exists is a very bad idea. Please do not do this. If there are entities in that file that aren't referenced at all in the documentation, then maybe there is a case for removing them. But you have to ask yourself what you are accomplishing. This doesn't improve the documentation one bit, and there are much more important things to work on, such as writing new articles, FAQ entries, or Handbook sections! ;) - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 9:20: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7E37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224F043E75 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UGK2Co005205 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UGK27K005204; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97E737B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A58A43E3B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UGFZCo004884 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UGFZ4H004880; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301615.g8UGFZ4H004880@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: murray@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: murray@FreeBSD.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43528: ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43528 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 30 09:20:01 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Mall, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD builder.freebsdmall.com 4.7-RC FreeBSD 4.7-RC #17: Sun Sep 29 15:18:19 PDT 2002 murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUILDER i386 >Description: ACPI is not documented at all in the Handbook. It does not show up in the INDEX. Multiple pages of user documentation need to be written for the Handbook to show users how to accomplish basic tasks with ACPI. How do you suspend a laptop with ACPI? What different suspend options are available? What is the difference between them? How do you use CPU throttling? What do common ACPI error messages mean? This is a important new feature for FreeBSD 5.0, and we must document it before November. The terse information in the man pages is not good enough by a long shot. We need more user-oriented documentation on these features. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Add a new section for the handbook that covers ACPI. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 9:20: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B54237B404 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8185243E77 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UGK3Co005218 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UGK3UY005217; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE9937B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B54543E3B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UGIgCo005083 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UGIgj8005082; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301618.g8UGIgj8005082@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Reply-To: Murray Stokely To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43529: device.hints mechanism is not documented in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43529 >Category: docs >Synopsis: device.hints mechanism is not documented in Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 30 09:20:03 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Murray Stokely >Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RC i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Mall, Inc. >Environment: System: FreeBSD freefall.freebsd.org 4.7-RC FreeBSD 4.7-RC #5: Tue Sep 17 09:29:45 PDT 2002 peter@freefall.freebsd.org:/c/src/sys/compile/FREEFALL i386 >Description: The device.hints functionality is not mentioned anywhere in the Handbook. The information about this drastic change in FreeBSD 5.0 must be better documented before we release FreeBSD 5.0. device.hints(5) is a good place to start, but the material belongs in the Handbook (where new-users will look for it). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 9:41:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E0737B409 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (www.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABE743E42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 05B122E89B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 09:41:49 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.7 Documentation Message-ID: <20020930094149.J68196@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please try to make any pending documentation commits ASAP. The documentation will be tagged for 4.7 in about 24 hours. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 10:10: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F8937B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2BE43E42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UHA2Co030776 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UHA2iq030775; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02CB37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BUN.1YEN.CX (pl931.nas922.n-yokohama.nttpc.ne.jp [210.139.122.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC4843E6A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from text@BUN.1YEN.CX) Received: from BUN.1YEN.CX (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by BUN.1YEN.CX (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8UH3efY005868; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:03:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from text@BUN.1YEN.CX) Received: (from text@localhost) by BUN.1YEN.CX (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UH3eeh005867; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:03:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200209301703.g8UH3eeh005867@BUN.1YEN.CX> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:03:40 +0900 (JST) From: 1yen@sh.rim.or.jp Reply-To: 1yen@sh.rim.or.jp To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: 1yen@sh.rim.or.jp X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43533: [PATCH] typo in 4.6.2R Release notes Errata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43533 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] typo in 4.6.2R Release notes Errata >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 30 10:10:01 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: NAKAMURA Takeshi <1Yen@Bigfoot.COM> >Release: FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE >Organization: CRC Systems Corp. >Environment: >Description: typo 'sshare' (same www/43531) >How-To-Repeat: see src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml >Fix: --- src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml.orig Tue Oct 1 01:50:44 2002 +++ src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/errata/article.sgml Tue Oct 1 01:50:45 2002 @@ -332,7 +332,7 @@ directories under /usr/share/examples are empty (most notably /usr/share/examples/cvsup). A partial - workaround is to install the sshare + workaround is to install the share distribution via &man.sysinstall.8; (from the main menu, choose Configure, Distributions, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: >System: FreeBSD BUN.1YEN.CX 4.7-RC FreeBSD 4.7-RC #10: Fri Sep 27 20:54:56 JST 2002 root@BUN.1YEN.CX:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUN i386 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 10:10:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED2537B404 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BF0D43E75 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UHA7Co030857 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UHA7el030856; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301710.g8UHA7el030856@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: John Baldwin Subject: RE: docs/43528: ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. Reply-To: John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43528; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Baldwin To: murray@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: docs/43528: ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:09:23 -0400 (EDT) On 30-Sep-2002 murray@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >>Number: 43528 >>Category: docs >>Synopsis: ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. >>Confidential: no >>Severity: serious >>Priority: high >>Responsible: freebsd-doc >>State: open >>Quarter: >>Keywords: >>Date-Required: >>Class: doc-bug >>Submitter-Id: current-users >>Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 30 09:20:01 PDT 2002 >>Closed-Date: >>Last-Modified: >>Originator: >>Release: FreeBSD 4.7-RC i386 >>Organization: > FreeBSD Mall, Inc. >>Environment: > System: FreeBSD builder.freebsdmall.com 4.7-RC FreeBSD 4.7-RC #17: Sun Sep 29 15:18:19 PDT 2002 > murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BUILDER i386 > >>Description: > > ACPI is not documented at all in the Handbook. It does not show up in > the INDEX. Multiple pages of user documentation need to be written > for the Handbook to show users how to accomplish basic tasks with > ACPI. > > How do you suspend a laptop with ACPI? What different suspend options > are available? What is the difference between them? The same exact way you do with apm. I.e. close the lid, hit the suspend key, etc. Is this even documented for apm(8)? > How do you use CPU throttling? You don't for the most part, that is behind the scenes. > What do common ACPI error messages mean? I don't even know what most of those are. :( Almost everything ACPI gives you is transparent. The same interface that apm used is supported, so battery status applets that work with APM will work with ACPI. The only difference is new features may work such as hitting the suspend key on the keyboard actually working and hitting the power button actually doing a clean power down and soft off. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 10:17:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03D937B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puyu.time.net.my (pop.time.net.my [203.121.16.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C232E43E3B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:17:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from enforcer@inetforce.org) Received: (qmail 162250 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 17:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO amd-athlon-xp.inetforce.org) (211.24.44.205) by 0 with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 17:15:52 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021001011443.00a585f0@mail.inetforce.org> X-Sender: enforcer@inetforce.org@mail.inetforce.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 01:15:57 +0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mr Deth Subject: Info Needed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I need some info. Can I get ur handbook, faq and tutorial to be published on my webpage. The credits will be for u but I think I would need ur permission. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 10:20:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9123D37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427A143E4A; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (bmah@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UHKFCo035863; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UHKFIb035859; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <200209301720.g8UHKFIb035859@freefall.freebsd.org> To: 1yen@sh.rim.or.jp, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43533: [PATCH] typo in 4.6.2R Release notes Errata Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] typo in 4.6.2R Release notes Errata State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 10:19:57 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of www/43531. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43533 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11: 0:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B0F37B409 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC97D43E42 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (peter@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UI0bCo044579 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:00:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UI0Zbk044552 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301800.g8UI0Zbk044552@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The problem is understood and a solution is being sought. f - feedback Further work requires additional information from the originator or the community - possibly confirmation of the effectiveness of a proposed solution. p - patched A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or confirmation from originator) are still open. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information or resources. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [2002/03/09] docs/35723 doc le(4) page doesn't warn about likely syst 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- s [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2001/05/23] docs/27605 doc Cross-document references () o [2002/01/15] ports/33929 doc Section 15.15 of the FreeBSD Porter's Han o [2002/03/06] docs/35620 doc make release fails in documentation for R o [2002/03/08] docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for o [2002/03/21] docs/36168 doc -pthread/_THREAD_SAFE docs missing in gcc o [2002/04/12] docs/37029 doc The translation in Italian language of th f [2002/05/06] docs/37791 doc Screenshots don't show up on paper when p o [2002/08/20] docs/41824 doc LANG is not documented in setlocale(3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41865 doc [PATCH] XFree86 section should document - o [2002/08/22] docs/41892 doc Patch to fix slowdowns of documentation b o [2002/09/01] docs/42292 doc PPP documentation should use quote marks o [2002/09/02] docs/42339 doc Release process doesn't document required o [2002/09/13] docs/42762 doc ppp.8 has no description of $env and ~use o [2002/09/27] docs/43430 doc Documentation incorrect in /usr/src/Makef o [2002/09/30] docs/43528 doc ACPI is not documented in the Handbook. o [2002/09/30] docs/43529 doc device.hints mechanism is not documented 17 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/04/29] docs/26943 doc [patch] description of :C modifier is mis o [2001/05/25] docs/27653 doc Updates to send-pr.html to support MIME o [2001/05/26] docs/27654 doc Update to PR 27653 o [2001/06/30] docs/28555 doc [PATCH] style(9) isn't explicit about boo o [2001/07/04] docs/28699 doc strptime(3) %d format specifier not compl o [2001/07/26] docs/29245 doc top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP o [2001/08/09] docs/29571 doc [PATCH] No man page for pgrp kernel funct a [2001/08/23] docs/30008 doc This document should be translated, comme o [2001/09/08] docs/30442 doc remove broken referemce to gettime(9) fro o [2001/09/27] docs/30873 doc ``ip'' man page does not specify byte ord o [2001/10/07] docs/31109 doc replace gif images w/ png ones due to pat o [2001/10/09] docs/31164 doc man page for strftime is incorrect a [2001/10/14] docs/31271 doc rl(4) discourages vender openness by disp o [2001/11/15] docs/32020 doc loader.8 manpage missing tunables a [2001/11/16] docs/32041 doc Add point about net.inet.tcp.portange.{fi o [2001/11/16] docs/32054 doc inconsistency between index.3 and rindex. o [2001/12/01] docs/32425 doc Document cvs update `P file' output o [2001/12/10] docs/32674 doc no man page for the ntp_adjtime system ca o [2002/01/05] docs/33589 doc Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process . o [2002/01/13] docs/33852 doc split(1) man page implies that input file o [2002/01/14] docs/33877 doc Documentet behaviour of SF_flags for non- o [2002/01/15] misc/33926 doc Search function on website can not access o [2002/02/01] docs/34529 doc [patch] Grammar nits in usbd.conf(5) and o [2002/02/03] docs/34577 doc Some man pages still advise using "confli o [2002/02/04] docs/34626 doc Copyright on "Index of /mail/current" pag o [2002/02/15] bin/34955 doc [PATCH] ps(1) is out of touch with realit a [2002/02/16] docs/35011 doc There are no commands called "diskless" o o [2002/02/22] docs/35222 doc mailing list archive URL regexp suboptima o [2002/02/24] docs/35280 doc [PATCH] null-modem cable pinout in 'Seria o [2002/02/26] docs/35343 doc Old broken Unix docco Makefiles o [2002/02/27] docs/35378 doc Handbook has inaccurate description of f o [2002/03/03] docs/35523 doc manpage fixes for df(1) and ls(1) o [2002/03/05] docs/35575 doc Pw(8) man page makes no mention of /var/l o [2002/03/06] docs/35602 doc dump(8)/restore(8) pages don't explain "a o [2002/03/06] docs/35607 doc dump(1) page needs discussion of scary er o [2002/03/06] docs/35608 doc mt(1) page uses "setmark" without explana o [2002/03/06] docs/35609 doc mt(1) page needs explanation of "long era o [2002/03/06] docs/35612 doc ps(1) page "state" description doesn't me o [2002/03/07] docs/35642 doc lo(4) page maybe should document optional o [2002/03/07] docs/35644 doc lo(4) page presumes familiarity with prin o [2002/03/07] docs/35646 doc cp(1) page needs a "Bugs" section. o [2002/03/07] docs/35647 doc www; combine query-by-number and multi-fi o [2002/03/07] docs/35648 doc rc.conf; add note about "flags" to both f o [2002/03/07] docs/35649 doc mount_smbfs(8) page: "See ./examples/dot. o [2002/03/08] docs/35686 doc blackhole(4) page seems to contradict its o [2002/03/08] docs/35687 doc /etc/nsmb.conf missing mention of readers o [2002/03/08] docs/35696 doc mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent n o [2002/03/10] docs/35732 doc adduser(8) page has obsolete reference an o [2002/03/12] docs/35823 doc [PATCH] Little Restructuring of the Devel o [2002/03/15] docs/35939 doc ipfw(8) needs explicit statement about no o [2002/03/15] docs/35941 doc cd(4) manual doesn't mention "target" use o [2002/03/15] docs/35942 doc at(1) manual doesn't describe at.allow an o [2002/03/15] docs/35943 doc at(1) config files are misplaced in /var/ o [2002/03/15] docs/35953 doc hosts.equiv(5) manual is confusing or wro o [2002/03/18] docs/36055 doc [PATCH] adding some help-yourself-info to o [2002/03/28] docs/36432 doc Proposal for doc/share/mk: make folded bo o [2002/03/28] docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailin o [2002/03/28] docs/36459 doc tftp(1) manual's "get" syntax/description o [2002/03/29] docs/36524 doc bad links on handbook index page o [2002/04/01] docs/36628 doc header an footer of openssl manpages are o [2002/04/03] docs/36724 doc ipnat(5) manpage grammar is incomplete an o [2002/04/18] docs/37221 doc obsolete reference to seqpacket in mount_ o [2002/04/25] docs/37457 doc acpi(4) man page references non-existant o [2002/04/25] docs/37470 doc jail field not documented in procfs(5) o [2002/04/29] docs/37557 doc there is no ciss(4) RAID controller man p o [2002/04/29] docs/37558 doc there is no iir(4) RAID controller man pa o [2002/04/29] docs/37559 doc there is no ida(4) RAID man page o [2002/05/02] docs/37693 doc Minor correxion to FreeBSD Porter's Handb o [2002/05/03] docs/37719 doc Detail VOP_ naming in a relevant man-page o [2002/05/07] docs/37843 doc manual for pthread_setschedparam is wrong o [2002/05/11] docs/37952 doc Typos, missing/incorrect accents in Itali o [2002/05/13] docs/38039 doc [PATCH] Handbook has broken link for snap o [2002/05/15] docs/38117 doc New FAQ entry for memory states o [2002/05/15] docs/38118 doc New FAQ entry for amount of free memory o [2002/05/22] docs/38426 doc extra manpage .Xr to locate relevant sysc o [2002/05/25] docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to exist o [2002/05/26] docs/38574 doc CPUTYPE is not documented in make.conf o [2002/05/27] docs/38618 doc Malloc types can be used with multiple al o [2002/05/27] docs/38620 doc Committers Guide and CVS o [2002/05/27] docs/38647 doc cvsupit built-in instructions are slightl o [2002/05/31] docs/38772 doc firewall_type feature not mentioned on Ha o [2002/06/02] docs/38810 doc Minor change in section 2.13.5 of the Han o [2002/06/02] docs/38815 doc Many typo fixed, and a question left unan o [2002/06/02] docs/38817 doc /usr/share/man/man8/boot.8.gz documents / o [2002/06/07] docs/38982 doc developers-hanbook/Jail fix o [2002/06/08] docs/39044 doc The man page for rot13(6) never mentions o [2002/06/09] docs/39084 doc Various tweaks to doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/boo o [2002/06/10] docs/39101 doc Misplaced parenthesis in the FAQ? o [2002/06/10] docs/39129 doc handbook; type WRT simulating postscript o [2002/06/11] docs/39164 doc Misprint in units(1).lib (aganist) o [2002/06/12] docs/39213 doc No rc(4) man page o [2002/06/12] docs/39214 doc No my(4) man page o [2002/06/13] docs/39257 doc printf manpage doesn't document error ret o [2002/06/14] docs/39293 doc the dumpon man page incorrectly states th o [2002/06/15] docs/39348 doc kenv fetch of hostname requires dhcp/boot o [2002/06/19] docs/39530 doc access(2) man page has unnecessarily broa o [2002/06/19] docs/39532 doc 'find' man page should o [2002/06/23] docs/39748 doc [PATCH] Some changes to aio_*(2) o [2002/06/23] docs/39751 doc handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clar o [2002/06/24] docs/39822 doc firewall.7: change "Mbits" to "Mbits/s" a o [2002/06/24] docs/39824 doc Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/bo o [2002/06/25] docs/39852 doc Handbook: treatment of KERNCONF is incons o [2002/07/04] docs/40196 doc man find does not describe -follow o [2002/07/05] docs/40234 doc Typos and language cleanup in /usr/share/ o [2002/07/07] docs/40311 doc Typos and language adjustments to ipfw.8 o [2002/07/07] docs/40313 doc Grammar, wording, and clarifications for o [2002/07/10] docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to o [2002/07/10] docs/40443 doc Update books/faq/book.sgml for USB .ko's o [2002/07/18] docs/40739 doc handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml FTP Mirrors o [2002/07/21] docs/40851 doc [PATCH] "mergemaster -p" in UPDATING's "C o [2002/07/21] docs/40872 doc [PATCH] document potential WEP text key i o [2002/07/22] docs/40910 doc [PATCH] Typos & grammer fixes for /usr/sh o [2002/07/22] docs/40911 doc [PATCH] Minor improvements for /usr/share o [2002/07/24] docs/40951 doc Various fixes for the solid-state article o [2002/07/24] docs/40952 doc login.conf should mention that "idletime" o [2002/07/25] docs/40969 doc intro(2) manpage still refers to PID 0 as o [2002/07/26] docs/41034 doc [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf co o [2002/07/28] docs/41089 doc pax -B option does not mention interactio o [2002/07/29] docs/41110 doc "apropos linux" doesn't find brandelf o [2002/07/30] docs/41166 doc man page for smp(4) is short on details o [2002/07/30] docs/41167 doc adventure.6 man-page, add section AUTHORS f [2002/07/30] docs/41181 doc Poor grammar in the dialog manpage o [2002/08/02] docs/41263 doc [PATCH] Clarifications and minor grammer o [2002/08/02] docs/41270 doc confusing directions for kernelconfig cha o [2002/08/03] docs/41290 doc [PATCH] wrong size for XEmpty-Deltas in m o [2002/08/04] docs/41329 doc return value in man page for kldunload is o [2002/08/07] docs/41413 doc [PATCH] Update to current projects page o [2002/08/07] docs/41423 doc Update FAQ: attrib command for windows du o [2002/08/08] docs/41449 doc [PATCH] Missing word in DNS info in Handb o [2002/08/10] docs/41532 doc [PATCH] Two small fixes to books/design-4 o [2002/08/11] docs/41546 doc [PATCH] adding non-breaking spaces to the o [2002/08/12] docs/41578 doc Incorrect #include in the usb(4) manpage o [2002/08/12] docs/41580 doc usb(4) manpage: Structures' fields aren't o [2002/08/13] docs/41643 doc New FAQ entry explaining UDMA ICRC errors f [2002/08/16] docs/41703 doc tcpdump manual mistake, with a draft amen o [2002/08/18] docs/41761 doc Update for /ru/internal/ part of site o [2002/08/19] docs/41787 doc man page for route (Section 8) missing de o [2002/08/19] docs/41791 doc Documentation formatting error o [2002/08/19] docs/41807 doc natd -punch_fw "bug" o [2002/08/20] docs/41820 doc Device driver confusion in Handbook (2.3) o [2002/08/21] docs/41879 doc cleanup to DOCROOT/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl o [2002/08/22] docs/41919 doc MINI kernel for bootfloppy (Handbook p.34 o [2002/08/24] docs/41993 doc [PATCH] corrections to driver(9) o [2002/08/27] docs/42058 doc Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto o [2002/08/27] docs/42076 doc diskless.8 man page unsafe example o [2002/08/29] docs/42182 doc Making Dedicated Mode disks doc out of da o [2002/09/01] docs/42293 doc copystr(9) man page incorrectly describes o [2002/09/01] docs/42312 doc make release broken without full ports o [2002/09/03] docs/42392 doc Pedantic PPP Primer scheduled for termina o [2002/09/11] docs/42651 doc [PATCH] mount([28]) do not document vfs.u o [2002/09/13] docs/42760 doc [PATCH] Correct the order of fxp devices o [2002/09/19] docs/42962 doc typo in TAR(1) o [2002/09/22] docs/43259 doc [PATCH] Markup for section headings in l1 o [2002/09/26] docs/43410 doc hardware-i386.html doesn't even mention p o [2002/09/27] docs/43416 doc pw(8) -u uidmin,uidmax feature is out of 157 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:24:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1102E37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC6A43E6A; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIOtCo057323; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIOtAv057319; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:24:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301824.g8UIOtAv057319@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/29245: top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: top(1) manpage doesn't understand SMP Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:24:19 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=29245 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:28:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1355C37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA80D43E3B; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UISlCo057667; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UISl2I057663; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301828.g8UISl2I057663@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35378: Handbook has inaccurate description of freebsd-security list Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook has inaccurate description of freebsd-security list Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:28:33 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35378 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:32:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE3437B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4B243E42; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIWOCo058437; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIWOb3058426; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301832.g8UIWOb3058426@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/35696: mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent nsmb(8) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: mount_smbfs(8) references a nonexistent nsmb(8) manpage Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->bp Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:31:58 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Boris wrote the mount_smbfs manpage. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35696 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:36:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C8037B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980443E4A; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIa9Co059802; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIa9dH059798; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301836.g8UIa9dH059798@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jj@nttmcl.com, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/38039: [PATCH] Handbook has broken link for snapshot download Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Handbook has broken link for snapshot download State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:35:26 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: The page with the problematic link (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/snapshots.html) no longer exists. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=38039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:39:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA0237B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8063B43E42; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIdGCo059988; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIdGWf059984; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301839.g8UIdGWf059984@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39101: Misplaced parenthesis in the FAQ? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Misplaced parenthesis in the FAQ? Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:38:50 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I seem to have scared everybody else away from this PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 11:42: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6A737B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A9F43E65; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIg3Co060290; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIg3o7060285; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:42:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200209301842.g8UIg3o7060285@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41449: [PATCH] Missing word in DNS info in Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Missing word in DNS info in Handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 11:41:42 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41449 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 12: 0:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B43B37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F7643E91 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UJ0LCo064609 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UJ0LKO064608; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EC337B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [216.136.204.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090A243E65 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UIx97R069841 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UIx9jl069840; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301859.g8UIx9jl069840@www.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Yonatan Bokovza To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/43538: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43538 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 30 12:00:21 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yonatan Bokovza >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: typo in ipfw(8) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ipfw.8.orig Mon Sep 30 17:51:02 2002 +++ ipfw.8 Mon Sep 30 17:51:46 2002 @@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ which control its invocation. .Pp As can be noted from the above picture, the number of times the same packet goes through the firewall can -vary between 0 and 4 depending o packet source and +vary between 0 and 4 depending on the packet source and destination, and system configuration. In each of these places, the packet is passed to .Nm >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 12:20: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA99437B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F243E6A for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UJK4Co073404 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UJK4ar073403; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200209301920.g8UJK4ar073403@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Marc Fonvieille Subject: Re: docs/43538: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) Reply-To: Marc Fonvieille Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43538; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Fonvieille To: Yonatan Bokovza Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43538: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:08:52 +0200 On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 11:59:09AM -0700, Yonatan Bokovza wrote: > --- ipfw.8.orig Mon Sep 30 17:51:02 2002 > +++ ipfw.8 Mon Sep 30 17:51:46 2002 > @@ -352,7 +352,7 @@ which control its invocation. > .Pp > As can be noted from the above picture, the number of > times the same packet goes through the firewall can > -vary between 0 and 4 depending o packet source and > +vary between 0 and 4 depending on the packet source and > destination, and system configuration. > In each of these places, the packet is passed to > .Nm It was fixed in -CURRENT, it will be merged ASAP. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 13:58:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093B37B401; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0582543E6A; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (blackend@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g8UKwECo001819; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blackend@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from blackend@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8UKwE1M001815; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:58:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Fonvieille Message-Id: <200209302058.g8UKwE1M001815@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yonatan@xpert.com, blackend@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43538: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [patch] typo in ipfw(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: blackend State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 30 13:57:23 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: It was fixed in -CURRENT and I just MFCed the fix. Thanks for the remainder. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43538 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 14:18: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA6337B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotbox.ru (host-66-156-159-65.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.159.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2655A43E3B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ponyboy_86@hotbox.ru) From: "Arseniy Parshikov" To: Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:23:46 -0500 Message-Id: <20020930211759.2655A43E3B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 30 14:24:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A337237B401 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotbox.ru (host-66-156-159-65.jan.bellsouth.net [66.156.159.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7966B43E3B for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ponyboy_86@hotbox.ru) From: "Arseniy Parshikov" To: Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 16:29:56 -0500 Message-Id: <20020930212409.7966B43E3B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 1:24: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE68D37B408 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.mail.ru (mx3.mail.ru [194.67.57.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99A543E6A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:23:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobforu@bk.ru) Received: from drweb by mx3.mail.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim MX.3) id 17wIJv-000HYl-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:23:55 +0400 Received: from [81.25.2.62] (helo=jobforU) by mx3.mail.ru with smtp (Exim SMTP.3) id 17wIJu-000HS0-00 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2002 12:23:54 +0400 From: "footman" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: 朽犷蜞 皴蜩. 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It's NEW, FREE, and HOT! www.whang9.freestoreclub.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 2:16:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E8537B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC2B43E81; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g919GaCo015252; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g919GafL015248; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 02:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200210010916.g919GafL015248@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41546: [PATCH] adding non-breaking spaces to the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] adding non-breaking spaces to the handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 02:15:36 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: This is great work, thanks! I've committed your huge patch. Do you think you could update the Doc Project Primer so that other new doc authors remember to use non-breaking spaces in the appropriate places? I don't recall if this is covered in the primer. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41546 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 3:15:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A27C37B404; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFA243E42; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (murray@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91AFDCo033069; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:15:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91AFDXm033065; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 03:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Murray Stokely Message-Id: <200210011015.g91AFDXm033065@freefall.freebsd.org> To: martin@sumuk.de, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43259: [PATCH] Markup for section headings in l10n/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Markup for section headings in l10n/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 03:15:01 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks for your submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43259 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 5: 1:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC6037B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 05:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2.jazztel.pt (relay2.jazztel.pt [213.63.190.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51A8243E42 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 05:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ) Received: (qmail 12902 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2002 11:40:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ONLINEREG.ES) (127.0.0.1) by 0 with SMTP; 1 Oct 2002 11:40:03 -0000 From: relay2.jazztel.pt@FreeBSD.ORG To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Virus incident Message-Id: <20021001120157.51A8243E42@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 05:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Panda Antivirus has found a virus in: File: Name: [Darling] MIME type: text/html Virus found: Exploit/iFrame Action carried out: Desinfected File: Name: Pontos.scr MIME type: audio/x-midi Virus found: W32/Klez.I Action carried out: Moved Sender: carry@cneves.jazznet.pt Recipient: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Darling] Date: 12:40:01 10/01/2002 Esta mensagem continha virus que foram removidos. This message contained viruses, they were removed. - Jazztel Postmaster http://www.pandasoftware.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 6:20:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B22037B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58F43E6E for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91DK7Co006667 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91DK7WT006666; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210011320.g91DK7WT006666@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Khorev Sergey Subject: Re: docs/42058: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD Reply-To: Khorev Sergey Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/42058; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Khorev Sergey To: "'freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org'" , Khorev Sergey Cc: Subject: Re: docs/42058: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:30:02 +0400 If a patch form is preferred there is one: RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu/chapter.sgml,v diff -r1.76 chapter.sgml 927a928,1244 > > > > > Sergey > Khorev > Contributed by > > > > > Installing Oracle 8i > > > applications > Oracle > > > > Preface > This document describes the process of installing Oracle 8iR3 (8.1.7) for > Linux onto a machine running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE > > > > Installing the Linux Environment > > Make sure you have both linux_base-6.1 and > linux_devtools-6.1 packages installed. Also the file > /compat/linux/etc/mtab must exist. Without it the installer fails. > > &prompt.root; cp /etc/fstab /compat/linux/etc/mtab > > You need to download and install Linux JDK-1.1.8 from > ftp.blackdown.org. > > &prompt.root; tar xjfC jdk118_v3-glibc-2.1.3.tar.bz2 /compat/linux/usr/ > &prompt.root; cd /compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3/ > &prompt.root; ln -s . linux > &prompt.root; echo echo i686 > /compat/linux/bin/arch > &prompt.root; chmod +x /compat/linux/bin/arch > &prompt.root; cd /compat/linux/usr/ > &prompt.root; mkdir local > &prompt.root; mkdir local/bin > &prompt.root; cd local > &prompt.root; ln -s ../jdk118_v3/ java > > > > > Creating the Oracle Environment > > Before you can install Oracle, you need to set up a proper > environment. You should read and understand the Oracle installation guide. > > > Kernel Tuning > kernel tuning > > As described in the Oracle installation guide, you need to set > the maximum size of shared memory. Do not use > SHMMAX under FreeBSD. SHMMAX > is merely calculated out of SHMMAXPGS and > PGSIZE. Therefore define > SHMMAXPGS. All other options can be used as > described in the guide. For example: > > # System V shared memory and tunable parameters > options SYSVSHM # include support for shared memory > options SHMMAXPGS=16384 # max amount of shared memory pages (4k on i386) > options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" > # max shared memory segment size (bytes) > options SHMMIN=2 # min shared memory segment size (bytes) > options SHMMNI=100 # max number of shared memory identifiers > options SHMSEG=10 # max shared memory segments per process > > # System V semaphores and tunable parameters > options SYSVSEM # include support for semaphores > options SEMMNI=100 # number of semaphore identifiers in the system > options SEMMSL=61 # max number of semaphores per id > options SEMMNS=61 # number of semaphores in the system > options SEMOPM=101 # max number of operations per semop call > > # System V message queues and tunable parameters > options SYSVMSG # include support for message queues > > Set these options to suit your intended use of Oracle. > > > > > > Oracle Account > > Create an Oracle account just as you would create any other > account. The Oracle account is special only that you need to give > it a Linux shell. Add /compat/linux/bin/bash to > /etc/shells and set the shell for the Oracle > account to /compat/linux/bin/bash. > &prompt.root; pw groupadd -n dba > &prompt.root; pw useradd oracle -g dba -m -s /compat/linux/bin/bash > > > > Environment > > According to Oracle's installation guide you are to > set some environment variables. Here Oracle is installed in /ora and > FORA is a name of the database. The LANG is unsetted to avoid problems > with the installer. The best place > to set them is /home/oracle/.profile: > ORACLE_BASE=/ora; export ORACLE_BASE > ORACLE_HOME=$ORACLE_BASE/app; export ORACLE_HOME > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH > ORACLE_SID=FORA; export ORACLE_SID > PATH=/compat/linux/bin:/compat/linux/sbin:/compat/linux/usr/bin > PATH=$PATH:/compat/linux/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin > PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:$ORACLE_HOME/bin > export PATH > umask 022 > unset LANG > > > > > Installing Oracle > > First of all you need to patch the installation. It can be done in two ways: > > > Copying the entire Oracle distribution to writable media. > > > Copying some installation files: > &prompt.root; cp -r /cdrom/Disk1/runInstaller /cdrom/Disk1/install . > > > Either way a patch must be applied to runInstaller: > 34c34 > < THREADS_FLAG=native > --- > > THREADS_FLAG=green > The install/oraparam.ini may be patched in two various fashions > > > 5c5 > < JRE_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/l inux > --- > > JRE_LOCATION=/compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3 > > > > 3c3 > < SOURCE=../stage/products.jar > --- > > SOURCE=/cdrom/Disk1/stage/products.jar > 5,6c5,6 > < JRE_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/l inux > < OUI_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.1.8.0/1/DataFiles/Expand ed > --- > > JRE_LOCATION=/compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3 > > OUI_LOCATION=/cdrom/Disk1/stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.1.8.0/1/DataFi les/Expanded > > > > > > To start the installation you need to be running X Windows. > Running as the oracle user, issue the following command: > > &prompt.user; ./runInstaller > The second way to correct source file location > On the next screen set UNIX group name to dba. > When prompted, run the script orainstRoot.sh under root account > > When selecting products to install, do not choose Enterprise Manager - > it's rather unstable even under Linux. You may also deselect > Oracle HTTP server, Product Options, and Java Products. > > Deselection of too many products may cause the installer to fail. > > Also choose to NOT use the database configuration assistant. > > > > Patching root.sh > > When installing Oracle, some actions, which need to be performed > as root, are recorded in a shell script called > root.sh. Apply the > following patch to root.sh, to have it use the proper command locations of > commands. Before running the script be sure the proper values > of ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_SID were set. > > 7c7 > < CHOWN="/bin/chown" > --- > > CHOWN="/usr/sbin/chown" > 9c9 > < TEST="/usr/bin/test" > --- > > TEST="/bin/test" > 86c86 > < AWK=/bin/awk > --- > > AWK=/usr/bin/awk > 88c88 > < CHOWN=/bin/chown > --- > > CHOWN=/usr/sbin/chown > 92,93c92,93 > < GREP=/bin/grep > < LBIN=/usr/local/bin > --- > > GREP=/usr/bin/grep > > LBIN=/compat/linux/usr/local/bin > 98c98 > < SED=/usr/local/bin/sed > --- > > SED=/usr/bin/sed > 101c101 > < TEST=/usr/bin/test > --- > > TEST=/bin/test > > > > > Running Oracle > > When you have followed the instructions, you should be able to run > Oracle as if it were run on Linux > itself. Also, you can then patch Oracle to version 8.1.7.3. > > Quick Running Oracle > For those who are new to Oracle and want to > quickly test installation, perform those steps as the oracle user > > > &prompt.user; cd $ORACLE_HOME/dbs; cp init.ora initFORA.ora > Then edit initFORA.ora to set values: > db_name=FORA > control_files = (/ora/data/FORA/ctl1.dbf, /ora/data/FORA/ctl2.dbf) > > > &prompt.user; svrmgrl > SVRMGR> connect internal > SVRMGR> startup nomount > SVRMGR> CREATE DATABASE FORA > LOGFILE GROUP 1 ('/ora/data/FORA/log1.dbf') size 1M, > GROUP 2 ('/ora/data/FORA/log2.dbf') size 1M NOARCHIVELOG CHARACTER SET CL8KOI8R > DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/system1.dbf' size 50M autoextend on; > SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catalog.sql > SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catproc.sql > SVRMGR> CREATE TABLESPACE users DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/users1.dbf' SIZE 20M AUTOEXTEND ON; > SVRMGR> CREATE TEMPORARY TABLESPACE temp TEMPFILE '/ora/data/FORA/temp1.dbf' SIZE 10M AUTOEXTEND ON; > SVRMGR> CREATE USER scott IDENTIFIED BY tiger DEFAULT TABLESPACE users TEMPORARY TABLESPACE temp; > SVRMGR> GRANT CONNECT, RESOURCE TO scott; > SVRMGR> CREATE TABLESPACE rbs DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/rbs1.dbf' SIZE 5M AUTOEXTEND ON; > SVRMGR> CREATE ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 TABLESPACE rbs; > SVRMGR> ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 ONLINE; > SVRMGR> ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 ONLINE; > SVRMGR> connect system/manager > SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/pupbld.sql > SVRMGR> connect scott/tiger > SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/demobld.sql > > > > Edit $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/initFORA.ora: > compatible = 8.1.0 > rollback_segments = (rbs01) > > > Now you should be able to connect to Oracle and select from > demonstration tables: > &prompt.user; sqlplus scott/tiger > SQL> SELECT DNAME, ENAME FROM EMP, DEPT > WHERE EMP.DEPTNO=DEPT.DEPTNO; > > > > Since starting Network Configuration Assistant fails, you need to > configure the network manually. 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TRCK:freeyankee;Iuhhevg-Grf*Iuhhevg!Ruj;1; --------------103350122239212-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 16:15:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C9037B404; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F42843E3B; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91NFpCo030244; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91NFpaq030240; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:15:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210012315.g91NFpaq030240@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sdf@expertune.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42962: typo in TAR(1) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in TAR(1) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 16:15:41 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42962 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 16:35:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E76637B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CAE43E3B; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91NZnCo034363; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91NZmfL034359; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210012335.g91NZmfL034359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dsl@foozle.org, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41993: [PATCH] corrections to driver(9) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] corrections to driver(9) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 16:35:38 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41993 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 16:56:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8E37B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DE843E65; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g91NtVCo038676; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:55:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91Ns99d038527; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210012354.g91Ns99d038527@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nerd@xyz.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41329: return value in man page for kldunload is incorrect Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: return value in man page for kldunload is incorrect State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 16:54:01 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Fixed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41329 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 17: 9:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB1137B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD61043E3B; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:09:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9209jCo045396; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:09:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9209irq045388; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:09:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210020009.g9209irq045388@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kivvy@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/40969: intro(2) manpage still refers to PID 0 as the scheduler Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: intro(2) manpage still refers to PID 0 as the scheduler State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 17:09:27 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Offending paragraph neutralized. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=40969 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 17:13:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A5E37B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5659243E65; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g920DlCo047286; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g920DkJ1047282; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:13:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210020013.g920DkJ1047282@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gnb@itga.com.au, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, imp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/40872: [PATCH] document potential WEP text key incompatabilities Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] document potential WEP text key incompatabilities State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 17:12:54 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: imp committed this on 2002/08/12, but he apparently forgot to close the PR. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->imp Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 17:12:54 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: JFYI http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=40872 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 19: 7:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0474437B401; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE1943E3B; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (dd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9227pCo079942; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9227pAp079938; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:07:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <200210020207.g9227pAp079938@freefall.freebsd.org> To: molter@tin.it, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42076: diskless.8 man page unsafe example Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: diskless.8 man page unsafe example State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Tue Oct 1 19:07:11 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42076 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 19:30: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB3D37B404 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF77443E77 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g922U2Co084215 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g922U2gq084214; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E52C37B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE04843E42 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 19:22:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (cs242743-97.austin.rr.com [24.27.43.97]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D25B14255 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lonesome.lonesome.com (localhost.lonesome.com [127.0.0.1]) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g91LMxv1003001 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:23:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by lonesome.lonesome.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g91LMwCH003000; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:22:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from linimon) Message-Id: <200210012122.g91LMwCH003000@lonesome.lonesome.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:22:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon Reply-To: Mark Linimon To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43569: src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43569 >Category: docs >Synopsis: src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 01 19:30:02 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Linimon >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Lonesome Dove Computing Services >Environment: System: FreeBSD lonesome.lonesome.com 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #2: Fri Aug 9 06:15:20 CDT 2002 linimon@lonesome.lonesome.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/XPS_R350 i386 >Description: The README never caught up with later technology in the script, it appears. Someone who has successfully made CDs should do a sanity-check on this suggested diff. >How-To-Repeat: n/a >Fix: --- README.DIST Mon Jan 28 07:12:34 2002 +++ README Tue Oct 1 16:13:59 2002 @@ -1,15 +1,6 @@ -These two shell scripts are what the developers use to burn CDs, +This shell script is what the developers use to burn CDs, including the FreeBSD releases made for Walnut Creek CDROM. makecdfs.sh is used to turn an arbitrary tree of files into a single ISO9660 (with RockRidge extensions) filesystem image. See the top of the shell script for usage instructions. - -burncd.sh takes the filesystem image produced by makecdfs.sh and burns -it onto a CDR drive. If you want to simply test your CDR without wasting -a blank, you can also do: - - burncd.sh mybigtestimage dummy - -And it will "write" the CD without the laser turned on, so that it's -actually untouched. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 20:53:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB6537B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f49.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F1F43E65 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from helmut_gruder@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 20:53:28 -0700 Received: from 206.124.131.173 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 03:53:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [206.124.131.173] From: "Helmut gruder" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Doc update Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 03:53:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2002 03:53:28.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[445F9B80:01C269C7] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I'm a unix admin of 13yrs and the other day my neighbor ask me to help him install Freebsd on on his laptop. No problem. I had it on a an intel machine at my own house. He had downloaded and burned several CDs so we made the boot disk and off we went. Today, we tried to recompile the kernel to include apm. Again, no problem, but when we refered to your online documentation it was less then helpful. Chapter nine is in need of a serious rewrite. Paths are incorrect, the instructions on simply mounting a CD and untarring the /usr/sys directory will not allow you to compile a kernel ! Of course, you get what you pay for right? No reply neccesary, 13yrs pays off again. hg _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Oct 1 21:17:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2E837B401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [207.154.84.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 687B043E65 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mij@soupnazi.org) Received: (qmail 2978 invoked by uid 1111); 2 Oct 2002 04:17:32 -0000 Date: 1 Oct 2002 21:17:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 21:17:31 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: Helmut gruder Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Doc update Message-ID: <20021002041731.GA625@soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 at 03:53:27 +0000, Helmut gruder wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm a unix admin of 13yrs and the other day my neighbor ask me > to help him install Freebsd on on his laptop. No problem. I had > it on a an intel machine at my own house. He had downloaded and > burned several CDs so we made the boot disk and off we went. > Today, we tried to recompile the kernel to include apm. Again, > no problem, but when we refered to your online documentation > it was less then helpful. Chapter nine is in need of a serious > rewrite. Paths are incorrect, the instructions on simply mounting > a CD and untarring the /usr/sys directory will not allow you to > compile a kernel ! Of course, you get what you pay for right? > No reply neccesary, 13yrs pays off again. Some details of what's incorrect might be useful. Also, it's not /usr/sys, it's /usr/src/sys, as the documentation says. - jim -- jim mock jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 1:30:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135F137B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793F743E6E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g928U4Co000881 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g928U4br000880; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210020830.g928U4br000880@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Khorev Sergey Subject: RE: docs/42058: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD Reply-To: Khorev Sergey Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/42058; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Khorev Sergey To: 'Giorgos Keramidas' Cc: "'bug-followup@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: RE: docs/42058: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:40:04 +0400 In order to submit the right patch: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/linuxemu/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.76 diff -u -r1.76 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml Thu Aug 29 14:35:44 2002 +++ chapter.sgml Tue Sep 10 10:48:57 2002 @@ -925,6 +925,323 @@ + + + + + Sergey + Khorev + Contributed by + + + + + Installing Oracle 8i + + + applications + Oracle + + + + Preface + This document describes the process of installing Oracle 8iR3 (8.1.7) for + Linux onto a machine running FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE + + + + Installing the Linux Environment + + Make sure you have both linux_base-6.1 and + linux_devtools-6.1 packages installed. Also the file + /compat/linux/etc/mtab must exist. Without it the installer fails. + + &prompt.root; cp /etc/fstab /compat/linux/etc/mtab + + You need to download and install Linux JDK-1.1.8 from + ftp.blackdown.org. + + &prompt.root; tar xjfC jdk118_v3-glibc-2.1.3.tar.bz2 /compat/linux/usr/ + &prompt.root; cd /compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3/ + &prompt.root; ln -s . linux + &prompt.root; echo echo i686 > /compat/linux/bin/arch + &prompt.root; chmod +x /compat/linux/bin/arch + &prompt.root; cd /compat/linux/usr/ + &prompt.root; mkdir local + &prompt.root; mkdir local/bin + &prompt.root; cd local + &prompt.root; ln -s ../jdk118_v3/ java + + + + + Creating the Oracle Environment + + Before you can install Oracle, you need to set up a proper + environment. You should read and understand the Oracle installation guide. + + + Kernel Tuning + kernel tuning + + As described in the Oracle installation guide, you need to set + the maximum size of shared memory. Do not use + SHMMAX under FreeBSD. SHMMAX + is merely calculated out of SHMMAXPGS and + PGSIZE. Therefore define + SHMMAXPGS. All other options can be used as + described in the guide. For example: + + # System V shared memory and tunable parameters +options SYSVSHM # include support for shared memory +options SHMMAXPGS=16384 # max amount of shared memory pages (4k on i386) +options SHMMAX="(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" + # max shared memory segment size (bytes) +options SHMMIN=2 # min shared memory segment size (bytes) +options SHMMNI=100 # max number of shared memory identifiers +options SHMSEG=10 # max shared memory segments per process + +# System V semaphores and tunable parameters +options SYSVSEM # include support for semaphores +options SEMMNI=100 # number of semaphore identifiers in the system +options SEMMSL=61 # max number of semaphores per id +options SEMMNS=61 # number of semaphores in the system +options SEMOPM=101 # max number of operations per semop call + +# System V message queues and tunable parameters +options SYSVMSG # include support for message queues + + Set these options to suit your intended use of Oracle. + + + + + + Oracle Account + + Create an Oracle account just as you would create any other + account. The Oracle account is special only that you need to give + it a Linux shell. Add /compat/linux/bin/bash to + /etc/shells and set the shell for the Oracle + account to /compat/linux/bin/bash. + &prompt.root; pw groupadd -n dba + &prompt.root; pw useradd oracle -g dba -m -s /compat/linux/bin/bash + + + + Environment + + According to Oracle's installation guide you are to + set some environment variables. Here Oracle is installed in /ora and + FORA is a name of the database. The LANG is unsetted to avoid problems + with the installer. The best place + to set them is /home/oracle/.profile: + ORACLE_BASE=/ora; export ORACLE_BASE +ORACLE_HOME=$ORACLE_BASE/app; export ORACLE_HOME +LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH +ORACLE_SID=FORA; export ORACLE_SID +PATH=/compat/linux/bin:/compat/linux/sbin:/compat/linux/usr/bin +PATH=$PATH:/compat/linux/usr/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin +PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:$ORACLE_HOME/bin +export PATH +umask 022 +unset LANG + + + + + Installing Oracle + + First of all you need to patch the installation. It can be done in two ways: + + + Copying the entire Oracle distribution to writable media. + + + Copying some installation files: + &prompt.root; cp -r /cdrom/Disk1/runInstaller /cdrom/Disk1/install . + + + Either way a patch must be applied to runInstaller: + 34c34 +< THREADS_FLAG=native +--- +> THREADS_FLAG=green + The install/oraparam.ini may be patched in two various fashions + + + 5c5 +< JRE_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/l inux +--- +> JRE_LOCATION=/compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3 + + + + 3c3 +< SOURCE=../stage/products.jar +--- +> SOURCE=/cdrom/Disk1/stage/products.jar +5,6c5,6 +< JRE_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/l inux +< OUI_LOCATION=../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.1.8.0/1/DataFiles/Expand ed +--- +> JRE_LOCATION=/compat/linux/usr/jdk118_v3 +> OUI_LOCATION=/cdrom/Disk1/stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.1.8.0/1/DataFi les/Expanded + + + + + + To start the installation you need to be running X Windows. + Running as the oracle user, issue the following command: + + &prompt.user; ./runInstaller + The second way to correct source file location + On the next screen set UNIX group name to dba. + When prompted, run the script orainstRoot.sh under root account + + When selecting products to install, do not choose Enterprise Manager - + it's rather unstable even under Linux. You may also deselect + Oracle HTTP server, Product Options, and Java Products. + + Deselection of too many products may cause the installer to fail. + + Also choose to NOT use the database configuration assistant. + + + + Patching root.sh + + When installing Oracle, some actions, which need to be performed + as root, are recorded in a shell script called + root.sh. Apply the + following patch to root.sh, to have it use the proper command locations of + commands. Before running the script be sure the proper values + of ORACLE_HOME and ORACLE_SID were set. + + 7c7 +< CHOWN="/bin/chown" +--- +> CHOWN="/usr/sbin/chown" +9c9 +< TEST="/usr/bin/test" +--- +> TEST="/bin/test" +86c86 +< AWK=/bin/awk +--- +> AWK=/usr/bin/awk +88c88 +< CHOWN=/bin/chown +--- +> CHOWN=/usr/sbin/chown +92,93c92,93 +< GREP=/bin/grep +< LBIN=/usr/local/bin +--- +> GREP=/usr/bin/grep +> LBIN=/compat/linux/usr/local/bin +98c98 +< SED=/usr/local/bin/sed +--- +> SED=/usr/bin/sed +101c101 +< TEST=/usr/bin/test +--- +> TEST=/bin/test + + + + + Running Oracle + + When you have followed the instructions, you should be able to run + Oracle as if it were run on Linux + itself. Also, you can then patch Oracle to version 8.1.7.3. + + Quick Running Oracle + For those who are new to Oracle and want to + quickly test installation, perform those steps as the oracle user + + + &prompt.user; cd $ORACLE_HOME/dbs; cp init.ora initFORA.ora + Then edit initFORA.ora to set values: + db_name=FORA +control_files = (/ora/data/FORA/ctl1.dbf, /ora/data/FORA/ctl2.dbf) + + + &prompt.user; svrmgrl + SVRMGR> connect internal + SVRMGR> startup nomount + SVRMGR> CREATE DATABASE FORA +LOGFILE GROUP 1 ('/ora/data/FORA/log1.dbf') size 1M, +GROUP 2 ('/ora/data/FORA/log2.dbf') size 1M NOARCHIVELOG CHARACTER SET CL8KOI8R +DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/system1.dbf' size 50M autoextend on; + SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catalog.sql + SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catproc.sql + SVRMGR> CREATE TABLESPACE users DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/users1.dbf' +SIZE 20M AUTOEXTEND ON; + SVRMGR> CREATE TEMPORARY TABLESPACE temp TEMPFILE '/ora/data/FORA/temp1.dbf' +SIZE 10M AUTOEXTEND ON; + SVRMGR> CREATE USER scott IDENTIFIED BY tiger DEFAULT TABLESPACE users +TEMPORARY TABLESPACE temp; + SVRMGR> GRANT CONNECT, RESOURCE TO scott; + SVRMGR> CREATE TABLESPACE rbs DATAFILE '/ora/data/FORA/rbs1.dbf' +SIZE 5M AUTOEXTEND ON; + SVRMGR> CREATE ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 TABLESPACE rbs; + SVRMGR> ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 ONLINE; + SVRMGR> ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT rbs01 ONLINE; + SVRMGR> connect system/manager + SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/pupbld.sql + SVRMGR> connect scott/tiger + SVRMGR> @$ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/admin/demobld.sql + + + + Edit $ORACLE_HOME/dbs/initFORA.ora: + compatible = 8.1.0 +rollback_segments = (rbs01) + + + Now you should be able to connect to Oracle and select from + demonstration tables: + &prompt.user; sqlplus scott/tiger + SQL> SELECT DNAME, ENAME FROM EMP, DEPT +WHERE EMP.DEPTNO=DEPT.DEPTNO; + + + + Since starting Network Configuration Assistant fails, you need to + configure the network manually. You may start from these sample files + (place all of them in $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/) + + # this is sqlnet.ora +NAMES.DIRECTORY_PATH=(TNSNAMES, ONAMES, HOSTNAME) +# listener.ora +LISTENER = + (ADDRESS_LIST= + (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=freehome)(PORT=1521)) + (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=ipc)(KEY=PNPKEY))) + +SID_LIST_LISTENER= + (SID_LIST= + (SID_DESC= + (GLOBAL_DBNAME=FORA) + (SID_NAME=FORA) + (ORACLE_HOME=/ora/app) + ) + ) +# tnsnames.ora +FORA=(DESCRIPTION= + (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=freehome)(PORT=1521)) + (CONNECT_DATA=(SID=FORA)) + ) + Now you should be able to start the listener: lsnrctl start + and connect through network: sqlplus scott/tiger@FORA. + + + + + + + + To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 2: 5: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EAF37B401; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B988C43E42; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (ceri@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g92953Co009337; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ceri@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from ceri@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g92953Dl009332; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 02:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ceri Davies Message-Id: <200210020905.g92953Dl009332@freefall.freebsd.org> To: khorev@softlab.ru, ceri@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, ceri@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/42058: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation: Installing Oracle 8i onto FreeBSD State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: ceri State-Changed-When: Wed Oct 2 02:04:22 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Patch looks good. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->ceri Responsible-Changed-By: ceri Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Oct 2 02:04:22 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=42058 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 4:54:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ECB37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA3643E4A for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08161; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:54:40 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id EAA04987; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210021154.EAA04987@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: helmut_gruder@hotmail.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (helmut_gruder@hotmail.com) Subject: Re: Doc update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >a CD and untarring the /usr/sys directory will not allow you to Yeah its /usr/src/sys and that's in the book. I'm also confused by this. I just reread chapter 9 and the steps it takes are just about the same as the ones I take when I install apm (I install sources via the /stand/sysinstall option and I build with the "traditional" option all according to the chapter). Now the fact that this is what I have done for version after version of FreeBSD, just about the same way always, may leave me oblivious to some of the alternate ways to interpret this document. What went wrong with yours? Tangent: Let me also say that it was something of a surprise to find out that much of what I used to reconfigure the kernel for can be taken care of by just fiddling with loader.conf (though I don't know if apm falls into that), so I think I could criticize chapter 9 for not having a section "do you really need to rebuild the kernel" to explain this. -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 5:37:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E378637B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [207.200.51.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE9443E6A for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 05:37:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92CbGs06459; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 07:37:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g92CbGb25941; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 07:37:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from centtech.com (electron [204.177.173.173]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g92CbDx25929; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 07:37:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D9AE859.8050209@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:36:41 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Lippert Cc: helmut_gruder@hotmail.com, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Doc update References: <200210021154.EAA04987@eskimo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ross Lippert wrote: > Tangent: > Let me also say that it was something of a surprise to find out that > much of what I used to reconfigure the kernel for can be taken care of > by just fiddling with loader.conf (though I don't know if apm falls > into that), so I think I could criticize chapter 9 for not having a > section "do you really need to rebuild the kernel" to explain this. That's actually a really good idea.. I've wondered that for a while. I rebuild the kernel, reboot, and then the next day I see someone tweaking some knob that did the same thing.. Doh! It would be great to have a list of "no need to build the kernel if you are just trying to do these things:" items.. That would save a lot of time. Who would know that list? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Skydiving - safer than the stock market. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 6:34: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F07E37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1300143E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17718; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:34:00 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id GAA07525; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 06:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210021333.GAA07525@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: anderson@centtech.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3D9AE859.8050209@centtech.com> (message from Eric Anderson on Wed, 02 Oct 2002 07:36:41 -0500) Subject: Re: Doc update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >It would be great to have a list of "no need to build the kernel if you >are just trying to do these things:" items.. That would save a lot of >time. Who would know that list? That's a good question. To add more complexity to the discussion there are actually two types of "little tweaks" one could do. The first is to put something in loader.conf: foo_load="YES" The second is to put something in rc.local or the more modern /usr/local/etc/rc.d which says kldload foo It may have been that I was doing something wrong, but I found that I could not get sound loaded with the former, but I could with the latter (I think I tried both snd and pcm for my "foo" above -- it was a while ago). Of course, one could say that there are as many things to put on that list as there are .ko files in the default install of /modules, but I think such a list only needs to have the most common things in it (sound and apm related stuff for two). -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 9:27:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1461337B404 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sonic1.tilw.net (sonic1.tilw.net [209.164.4.167]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBD1F43E4A for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 103307757039352-2100200012-freebsd.org?Freebsd-Doc@bounce.tilw.net) From: CreditFix Subject: Is Your Credit Report Stopping You? Find Out! 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TRCK:freeyankee;Iuhhevg-Grf*Iuhhevg!Ruj;1; --------------103357520950332-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 10:30:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3413C37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C1C43E3B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from hades.hell.gr (patr530-b196.otenet.gr [212.205.244.204]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g92HU5dY018898; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:30:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g92HU8mM008040; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:30:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g92HU6q7008039; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:30:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 20:30:04 +0300 (EEST) From: Giorgos Keramidas X-X-Sender: keramida@hades To: Ross Lippert Cc: anderson@centtech.com, Subject: Re: Doc update In-Reply-To: <200210021333.GAA07525@eskimo.com> Message-ID: <20021002202804.E7776-100000@hades> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-10-02 06:33, Ross Lippert wrote: > > >It would be great to have a list of "no need to build the kernel if you > >are just trying to do these things:" items.. That would save a lot of > >time. Who would know that list? > That's a good question. > > To add more complexity to the discussion there are actually two types of > "little tweaks" one could do. The first is to put something in loader.conf: > foo_load="YES" > The second is to put something in rc.local or the more modern /usr/local/etc/rc.d > which says > kldload foo > > It may have been that I was doing something wrong, but I found that I could not > get sound loaded with the former, but I could with the latter (I think I tried > both snd and pcm for my "foo" above -- it was a while ago). Timing is everything. The loader.conf stuff runs when very little things have been loaded & run by the running kernel. The /usr/local things are loaded as modules close to the end of the booting process. Some things might depend on being loaded very early in the boot process, to get their own stuff right. Others don't. This is the root of the differences you have pointed out. Giorgos. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 10:38:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCA37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C028A43E42 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 25037 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2002 17:38:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Oct 2002 17:38:34 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g92HcSBv014575; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:38:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20021002202804.E7776-100000@hades> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:38:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: Doc update Cc: doc@freebsd.org, anderson@centtech.com, Ross Lippert Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 02-Oct-2002 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-10-02 06:33, Ross Lippert wrote: >> >> >It would be great to have a list of "no need to build the kernel if you >> >are just trying to do these things:" items.. That would save a lot of >> >time. Who would know that list? >> That's a good question. >> >> To add more complexity to the discussion there are actually two types of >> "little tweaks" one could do. The first is to put something in loader.conf: >> foo_load="YES" >> The second is to put something in rc.local or the more modern /usr/local/etc/rc.d >> which says >> kldload foo >> >> It may have been that I was doing something wrong, but I found that I could not >> get sound loaded with the former, but I could with the latter (I think I tried >> both snd and pcm for my "foo" above -- it was a while ago). > > Timing is everything. The loader.conf stuff runs when very little > things have been loaded & run by the running kernel. The /usr/local > things are loaded as modules close to the end of the booting process. loader.conf is used before the kernel is running. It is used by loader(8). > Some things might depend on being loaded very early in the boot > process, to get their own stuff right. Others don't. This is the > root of the differences you have pointed out. Umm, it should make no difference. If something doesn't work from loader.conf then that is a bug which should be reported and fixed. If anything, some things like bktr(4) might only work when loaded from the loader (due to doing large contigmalloc()s). -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 11: 3:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0437F37B401; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C6B43E7B; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23452; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:13 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA09696; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210021803.LAA09696@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: jhb@FreeBSD.org Cc: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr, doc@FreeBSD.org, anderson@centtech.com In-reply-to: (message from John Baldwin on Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:38:31 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Doc update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Umm, it should make no difference. If something doesn't work from >loader.conf then that is a bug which should be reported and fixed. >If anything, some things like bktr(4) might only work when loaded Well, it will certainly be something I try again when 4.7 gets to me. If I find it happening again (where snd or pcm had trouble at loader) I will say something about it. -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 11:50: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABAA37B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBBB43E3B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g92Io4Co035803 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g92Io4NK035801; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 11:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210021850.g92Io4NK035801@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/43569: src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-date Reply-To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43569; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Mark Linimon Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43569: src/share/examples/worm/README out-of-date Date: 02 Oct 2002 11:45:17 -0700 > @@ -1,15 +1,6 @@ > -These two shell scripts are what the developers use to burn CDs, > +This shell script is what the developers use to burn CDs, > including the FreeBSD releases made for Walnut Creek CDROM. Walnut Creek? AFAIK, there is no such beast(ie). How's about nixing the whole paragraph? Better yet, nix the README and put the little remaining text into the script. Better yet, make the script refer to some document in the documenation infrastructure, and put it there. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 12: 4:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8115737B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D9443E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021002190409.JOBC18767.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g92J73MX022287; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:07:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g92J6liK022282; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:06:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Ross Lippert Cc: anderson@centtech.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Doc update References: <200210021333.GAA07525@eskimo.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 02 Oct 2002 12:06:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200210021333.GAA07525@eskimo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ross Lippert writes: > The second is to put something in rc.local or the more modern /usr/local/etc/rc.d > which says > kldload foo The third is to explain /boot/kernel.conf which is barely mentioned elsewhere. > Of course, one could say that there are as many things to put on that > list as there are .ko files in the default install of /modules, but I think > such a list only needs to have the most common things in it (sound and apm > related stuff for two). It should be adequate to explain the theory, give examples, and refer to /boot/default/loader.conf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 12:27:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439D337B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152943E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:27:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05909; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:27:29 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id MAA00761; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210021927.MAA00761@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: swear@attbi.com Cc: anderson@centtech.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (swear@attbi.com) Subject: Re: Doc update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >The third is to explain /boot/kernel.conf which is barely mentioned elsewhere. I find such discussions so enlightening. My system doesn't have /boot/kernel.conf nor does man kernel.conf man /boot/kernel.conf man -k kernel.conf return anything helpful. -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Oct 2 16: 7:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49E337B401 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na.ko.com (imkomail2.ko.com [205.160.52.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11AB243E65 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:07:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from postmaster@na.ko.com) Received: from ([205.160.52.30]) by komail2.na.ko.com with ESMTP ; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 19:04:49 -0400 (EDT) To: doc Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:04:48 -0400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Postmaster" Subject: Let's be friends -- KO/Office has blocked your mail due to an email policy. 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Swearingen) Date: 02 Oct 2002 19:49:59 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200210021927.MAA00761@eskimo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ross Lippert writes: > >The third is to explain /boot/kernel.conf which is barely mentioned elsewhere. > I find such discussions so enlightening. My system doesn't have > /boot/kernel.conf Try handbook.txt (two occurances) and loader(8) and kget(8). I suspect that it is created when you use certain features of the kernel-config "visual" menu thing that's available from the boot prompt. The only thing I've seen in the file is lines like "di pcic0" to cause the kernel to disable the pcic0 device (ie, the driver for it). Sorta counters the line in the KERNCONF file which requests the device. 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FreeBSD 4.6 August 30, 2001 FreeBSD 4.6 I realize that this appeared in -CURRENT before it migrated to -STABLE, but it will be in 4.7 before 5.0 is released. Moreover, daemon(8) seems to have come from BSD/OS, so the manpage is wrong either way. Does anyone who has access to the BSD/OS source care to make the trivial correction? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 0:10: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA1A37B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAB143E3B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g937A4Co081369 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g937A4o9081365; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 00:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Tom Rhodes Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Reply-To: Tom Rhodes Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43502; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tom Rhodes To: wkwu@csie.nctu.edu.tw Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:01:33 -0400 I think what the manual page means here is that cpmod(1) is currently not availible in the FreeBSD Operating System... chmod(1) is a valid command in FreeBSD though, and that wouldn't make sence to say: and chmod(1) is not availible. Without supporting text that is similar to: chmod(1) is not availible when working with this utility. Although I wouldn't see why ;) On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:46 +0800 (CST) wkwu@csie.nctu.edu.tw wrote: > > >Number: 43502 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug > >Confidential: no > >Severity: non-critical > >Priority: low > >Responsible: freebsd-doc > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: doc-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Sun Sep 29 21:50:02 PDT 2002 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Wei-Kai Wu > >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE i386 > >Organization: > Kavalan > >Environment: > > FreeBSD 4.7-RC > > >Description: > > At the bottom of manual page ZNEW(1), the BUGS section: > > Znew does not maintain the time stamp with the -P option > if cpmod(1) is not available and touch(1) does not support > the -r option. > > It should be the "chmod(1)" instead of "cpmod(1)". > > >How-To-Repeat: > >Fix: > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 2:40:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CC837B404 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E9C43E3B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g939e4Co047438 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g939e45b047437; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515D837B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (bremen.shuttle.de [194.95.249.251]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D47843E77 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 02:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from schweikh@schweikhardt.net) Received: from bremen.shuttle.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bremen.shuttle.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBA317D56 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:33:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by bremen.shuttle.de (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with UUCP id g939XoWS012788 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:33:50 +0200 Received: from hal9000.schweikhardt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g939XR3g044027 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from schweikh@hal9000.schweikhardt.net) Received: (from schweikh@localhost) by hal9000.schweikhardt.net (8.12.6/8.12.3/Submit) id g939XR5P044026; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200210030933.g939XR5P044026@hal9000.schweikhardt.net> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Jens Schweikhardt Reply-To: Jens Schweikhardt To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43622: Undocumented modules (missing man pages) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43622 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Undocumented modules (missing man pages) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 03 02:40:03 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jens Schweikhardt >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Digital Details >Environment: System: FreeBSD hal9000.schweikhardt.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Thu Sep 26 22:25:21 CEST 2002 toor@hal9000.schweikhardt.net:/usr/obj/src/current/sys/HAL9000 i386 >Description: There are man pages only for 95 of 255 kernel modules in /boot/kernel. For consistency, any module name should also have an associated man page with info about its associated kernel option, etc. The interface (if_*) modules for example are mostly there and only need an additional link to their driver man page. Same goes for some of the snd_* modules. >How-To-Repeat: #!/bin/sh cd /boot/kernel modules=`ls *.ko | sed -e 's/\.ko//'` man -w ${modules} > /dev/null On 5-current this prints: No manual entry for 3dfx No manual entry for aac_linux No manual entry for aio No manual entry for aout No manual entry for apm_saver No manual entry for arcnet No manual entry for atspeaker No manual entry for bktr_mem No manual entry for blank_saver No manual entry for cbb No manual entry for cd9660 No manual entry for ciss No manual entry for coda No manual entry for daemon_saver No manual entry for digi No manual entry for digi_CX No manual entry for digi_CX_PCI No manual entry for digi_EPCX No manual entry for digi_EPCX_PCI No manual entry for digi_Xe No manual entry for digi_Xem No manual entry for digi_Xr No manual entry for dragon_saver No manual entry for fade_saver No manual entry for fire_saver No manual entry for firewire No manual entry for fpu No manual entry for gnufpu No manual entry for green_saver No manual entry for hea_pci No manual entry for hfa No manual entry for hfa_pci No manual entry for ibcs2_coff No manual entry for if_an No manual entry for if_ar No manual entry for if_aue No manual entry for if_bge No manual entry for if_cm No manual entry for if_cue No manual entry for if_dc No manual entry for if_de No manual entry for if_disc No manual entry for if_ed No manual entry for if_ef No manual entry for if_el No manual entry for if_em No manual entry for if_ep No manual entry for if_faith No manual entry for if_fe No manual entry for if_fxp No manual entry for if_gif No manual entry for if_gre No manual entry for if_gx No manual entry for if_kue No manual entry for if_lge No manual entry for if_lnc No manual entry for if_nge No manual entry for if_oltr No manual entry for if_pcn No manual entry for if_ppp No manual entry for if_ray No manual entry for if_rl No manual entry for if_sbni No manual entry for if_sf No manual entry for if_sis No manual entry for if_sk No manual entry for if_sl No manual entry for if_sn No manual entry for if_sr No manual entry for if_ste No manual entry for if_stf No manual entry for if_tap No manual entry for if_ti No manual entry for if_tl No manual entry for if_tun No manual entry for if_tx No manual entry for if_txp No manual entry for if_vlan No manual entry for if_vr No manual entry for if_vx No manual entry for if_wb No manual entry for if_wi No manual entry for if_xe No manual entry for if_xl No manual entry for iir No manual entry for ip_mroute No manual entry for libiconv No manual entry for libmchain No manual entry for logo_saver No manual entry for lomac_plm No manual entry for mac_biba No manual entry for mac_bsdextended No manual entry for mac_ifoff No manual entry for mac_mls No manual entry for mac_none No manual entry for mac_seeotheruids No manual entry for mac_test No manual entry for miibus No manual entry for msdosfs No manual entry for ncv No manual entry for nfsclient No manual entry for nfsserver No manual entry for ng_eiface No manual entry for ng_gif_demux No manual entry for ng_split No manual entry for ng_sync_ar No manual entry for ng_sync_sr No manual entry for nsp No manual entry for ntfs No manual entry for nullfs No manual entry for pecoff No manual entry for portalfs No manual entry for pps No manual entry for radeon No manual entry for rain_saver No manual entry for s3 No manual entry for sbp No manual entry for scsi_low No manual entry for sem No manual entry for smbfs No manual entry for snake_saver No manual entry for snd_ad1816 No manual entry for snd_als4000 No manual entry for snd_cmi No manual entry for snd_cs4281 No manual entry for snd_csa No manual entry for snd_driver No manual entry for snd_ds1 No manual entry for snd_emu10k1 No manual entry for snd_es137x No manual entry for snd_ess No manual entry for snd_fm801 No manual entry for snd_ich No manual entry for snd_maestro No manual entry for snd_maestro3 No manual entry for snd_mss No manual entry for snd_neomagic No manual entry for snd_pcm No manual entry for snd_sb16 No manual entry for snd_sb8 No manual entry for snd_sbc No manual entry for snd_solo No manual entry for snd_t4dwave No manual entry for snd_uaudio No manual entry for snd_via8233 No manual entry for snd_via82c686 No manual entry for snd_vibes No manual entry for splash_bmp No manual entry for splash_pcx No manual entry for star_saver No manual entry for stg No manual entry for syscall_gate No manual entry for sysvmsg No manual entry for sysvsem No manual entry for sysvshm No manual entry for udf No manual entry for ufm No manual entry for umapfs No manual entry for unionfs No manual entry for warp_saver >Fix: Write the docs or link to the respective device driver man page. Regards, Jens -- Jens Schweikhardt http://www.schweikhardt.net/ SIGSIG -- signature too long (core dumped) >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 4:33:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E9C37B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AC143E4A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:33:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ripper@eskimo.com) Received: from eskimo.com (ripper@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14693; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:33:12 -0700 Received: (from ripper@localhost) by eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id EAA29049; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 04:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210031133.EAA29049@eskimo.com> From: Ross Lippert To: swear@attbi.com Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (swear@attbi.com) Subject: Re: Doc update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Try handbook.txt (two occurances) and loader(8) and kget(8). That's not a whole heck of a lot of information on kernel.conf, I just looked. Is it really something we are meant to modify or is it something that get's changed by another program? Perhaps this is more of a new thing to put on the list of "things that should be documented better" than as a third option for avoiding kernel compiles? As for the two ways of avoiding kernel compiles, this is something I could write about if I knew what other people do (I just do snd/pcm and apm -- I'd like to know what else you can get away with). I won't have a GENERIC kernel back again until I am in the throws of installing 4.7-RELEASE, but that will be soon and will give a good opportunity to try things out. -r To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 8:58:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4077A37B404 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmail.anet.net.th (qmail.anet.net.th [203.148.255.86]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D916C43E65 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from numfon_as@poppymail.com) Received: (qmail 14471 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2002 15:58:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ME) (210.203.181.226) by qmail.anet.net.th with SMTP; 3 Oct 2002 15:58:00 -0000 From: numfon_as@poppymail.com Subject:⑼煤∏ mail ⑼Г爻 锹酚岷菏秃兑 ⑼氦爻烈·栊 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Reply-To: numfon_as@poppymail.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="#MYBOUNDARY#" Message-Id: <20021003155816.D916C43E65@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:58:16 -0700 (PDT) To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --#MYBOUNDARY# Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ansi Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ㄒ∶衣∫绵磷艇浞虑压拐 酚闼榫呵枰 琳す氛枇栈循艘唷砧虑⊙骸颐守⒗揖嗷绻ㄓ骨沽摇 岷菏秃兑凉臻鸵í枨陇爻浯 岬瓒橐へ赤荤工狗砧琳守⒗揖凑吐勹崤榍 ＄淞瑷余荤沟橥У秃岷菏秃兑沥栊 岷菏秃兑痢颐促崤守⒗揖 崤袖趴焓涞澎 1. 谎沂丌酪劲艇へ长淄 /归铀寡×摇 甸艇∫门 .......≡馀/ で伊囱故侑-佃 / 嗪宜且 / づ袜檬嗟兔团 - 浃谩谜喃兔熹殴 / 妥韫 ............................................................................. 2. 愎岬枧星压へ趁押幻蟹夜っ 3 磷橥嗣淄淞 / 悛 / 淞 ..................磷橥 / 茄 3. よ彝宜颐岬枧辛组头砧へ趁押幻蟹夜幻辛页靡ひ磷橥判≌韬曳 / 20-25 阂 / 30-40 / 50-60 / 烈　氰 60 ............................................................................. 4. 谎è睾压へ炒籴攀丌酪就妈咬涿 / 屯　优学∫率凌余柿 / 淞桡疏悒愎∫么籴攀丌酪 / 芬雇宜颐嗍迷谅砧碎 / 妥韫 ............................................................................. 5. へ赤ぢで氦亓归铀寡×摇柰顾米弯凌 / 啶 (浯榧-淞桎撮寂) / 淞栲ぢ ............................................................................. 6. へ敞迷Ж学⊙骸颐氛瑷辛彰倩描咬 崤惺丌酪痉砧凑嗣淄淞 / 鸳ㄑ / 淞瑷迷Ж学 视嗣押假榉砧鸳ㄑХ砧ㄐ琳觅幻枰 崤惺丌酪痉砧凑 嗝尧歪剐褂 寂缘姥潮焘幻帷昧鸵艘檬俚檬链嘏蚂ㄒ∈霖逛久该昧翟 锹帷榛循艘归铀寡 恃词枨 崤惺丌酪 氛璧楣嗨地 拓戳撮锹室猛宜颐好允胤冈欷煤 5 肆勹 芬贯饭磷橥鸵艘没〉 1 - 2 磷橥佃颓压 浯槊押∫妹押猛Ж摇 吐. 54 幻朽啡 淞桡乱糯归铀寡 淞璧橥赐宜颐 淞枇占泞橐оふ搂 醚夯眯⊙工且辆豌ɡ衣愎 1 啻淄 撮锹眯汉ぷ灌г 100% へ呈广ǚ砧ㄐ访液㈤土倥唷砧虑⊙衡幻帷昧饫摇颐促崤觅幻枰 崤惺丌酪舅米弯凌 / 使悒 / 淞枋广 ............................................................................. ∶痴氛枋广 嗝舀辛锗ㄩ宜归曳砧翟吹柰∨押浠艘へ忱衣愎 48 . 嗑阻豌碎靡屡朽驼麓崤楔汛疏о汀室每谜 柰-挂潦∝ ...........................................鸵 ........................... 鸵仑 .......................... 疏枪寿 ...........................归铀寡 ............... 夥萌丫缝 ......................... 嗲乓氛枋写恰愎∫玫源佃 ..................... 氛柰沦 氛瑷秀碎ㄑ词瑙嗤∈颐闼榭谜 .................... Please unsubscribe sent mail to numfon_as@poppymail.com --#MYBOUNDARY#-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 9:30:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5AD37B406 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D625B43E6A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021003163038.DSSZ17535.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:30:38 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g93GXjoS001271; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g93GXdam001268; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Ross Lippert Cc: swear@attbi.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Doc update References: <200210031133.EAA29049@eskimo.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 03 Oct 2002 09:33:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200210031133.EAA29049@eskimo.com> Message-ID: Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ross Lippert writes: > >Try handbook.txt (two occurances) and loader(8) and kget(8). > That's not a whole heck of a lot of information on kernel.conf, > I just looked. Is it really something we are meant to modify or > is it something that get's changed by another program? (A blank line between a quote and your original text would be nice.) The only helpful mention of kernel.conf in the Handbook is quite clear that users are meant to modify it. > Perhaps this is more of a new thing to put on the list of > "things that should be documented better" than as a third option > for avoiding kernel compiles? But that's precisely what it's for. From the Handbook: ... (an automated script which does the things you would normally do in the kernel boot-time configurator) > As for the two ways of avoiding kernel compiles, this is something > I could write about if I knew what other people do (I just do snd/pcm > and apm -- I'd like to know what else you can get away with). I won't > have a GENERIC kernel back again until I am in the throws of installing > 4.7-RELEASE, but that will be soon and will give a good opportunity to > try things out. Don't confuse the bigger topic of avoiding kernel compiles with the narrower topic of loading kernel modules (or of setting sysctl values which can also head-off a kernel recompile). You SEEM to only be concerned with module loading. As for that, I suspect that most people build custom kernels and/or rely on auto-loading modules to be loaded when needed and/or load modules in rc.local or somewhere. And some use loader.conf, of course. I see that I've got one auto-loaded module (linux.ko) and one non-auto- loading module (vesa.ko) loaded from a custom rc.syscons if a certain video mode is asked for, which it is. (I could pre-load it with loader.conf, but I'd "need" to remember to remove it when I change the video mode to one which doesn't need vesa.ko -- and I didn't know it could be done in loader.conf until this thread.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 10:53:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEB537B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117C943E6A; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021003175349.QRCJ22381.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:53:49 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g93HuuoS002307; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g93Hupv3002304; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:56:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug References: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 03 Oct 2002 10:56:51 -0700 In-Reply-To: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes writes: > I think what the manual page means here is that cpmod(1) is currently > not availible in the FreeBSD Operating System... The manual clearly does not mean that it is not available. It even seems to imply that it IS available. It also reads badly; as if it is the -P option which normally maintains the time stamp. It also doesn't say what it means to "maintain the time stamp" or what happens when it is not maintained. I don't consider it a bug that a Freebsd-standard program breaks if other standard programs (eg, touch) are broken. I think it would be best to replace the whole "Bugs" section with a note like this: If, for some reason, a non-standard touch(1) which not support the standard "-r" option is used, the non-standard cpmod(1) command (available from unknown sources) can be used to support znew(1). This support is only needed for the "-P" option and if it does not exist, the output file's time stamps will be unreliable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 12:33:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E7837B406 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635DB43E77 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from unknown ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g93JX5wi036260; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:33:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:13 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Message-Id: <20021003153013.336e92a0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll work on fixing this in the next few hours, however, znew is contrib software from gzip. While I would say to fix on the vender brance, gzip hasn't been touched in several years (shortest time is listed in cvs as 22 months for one file, all others are like 3 years and 8 years) so I don't think it makes much a difference to change this in our local repo. On 03 Oct 2002 10:56:51 -0700 swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > Tom Rhodes writes: > > > I think what the manual page means here is that cpmod(1) is > > currently not availible in the FreeBSD Operating System... > > The manual clearly does not mean that it is not available. It even > seems to imply that it IS available. > > It also reads badly; as if it is the -P option which normally > maintains the time stamp. It also doesn't say what it means to > "maintain the time stamp" or what happens when it is not maintained. > > I don't consider it a bug that a Freebsd-standard program breaks if > other standard programs (eg, touch) are broken. I think it would be > best to replace the whole "Bugs" section with a note like this: > > If, for some reason, a non-standard touch(1) which not support the > standard "-r" option is used, the non-standard cpmod(1) command > (available from unknown sources) can be used to support znew(1). > This support is only needed for the "-P" option and if it does > not exist, the output file's time stamps will be unreliable. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 13:40:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D6137B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4843E3B; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021003204028.VGEY27763.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:40:28 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g93KhYoS004280; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g93KhTkx004277; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:43:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Tom Rhodes Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug References: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021003153013.336e92a0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 03 Oct 2002 13:43:29 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20021003153013.336e92a0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Rhodes writes: > I'll work on fixing this in the next few hours, however, znew is > contrib software from gzip. While I would say to fix on the vender > brance, gzip hasn't been touched in several years (shortest time is > listed in cvs as 22 months for one file, all others are like 3 years > and 8 years) so I don't think it makes much a difference to change > this in our local repo. That sounds like an argument for fixing it locally, since vendor source changes don't need to be tracked frequently and there's a low probabilty of the vender source being changed to suit the FreeBSD PR. But it's sufficiently unimportant that it probably makes sense to just convert the PR to another "wish list" PR, which in my opinion should never be closed unless the PR becomes inapplicable. Or until http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/pr-when.html is changed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 13:54:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F84B37B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FF743E3B for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 13:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g93Ks9wi036727; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:54:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:51:17 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Message-Id: <20021003165117.7f86780d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021003153013.336e92a0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03 Oct 2002 13:43:29 -0700 swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > Tom Rhodes writes: > > > I'll work on fixing this in the next few hours, however, znew is > > contrib software from gzip. While I would say to fix on the vender > > brance, gzip hasn't been touched in several years (shortest time is > > listed in cvs as 22 months for one file, all others are like 3 years > > and 8 years) so I don't think it makes much a difference to change > > this in our local repo. > > That sounds like an argument for fixing it locally, since vendor > source changes don't need to be tracked frequently and there's a low > probabilty of the vender source being changed to suit the FreeBSD PR. Not really an argument, in fact I like the idea. Why should we have users check manual pages for utilties that do not exist ;) > > But it's sufficiently unimportant that it probably makes sense to just > convert the PR to another "wish list" PR, which in my opinion should > never be closed unless the PR becomes inapplicable. Or until > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/pr-when.html > is changed. > Please don't make my life harder than what it already is hehehe -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 14:25:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C5937B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB543E4A; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g93LPkCo035482; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g93LPjJA035478; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200210032125.g93LPjJA035478@freefall.freebsd.org> To: anderson@centtech.com, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41413: [PATCH] Update to current projects page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] Update to current projects page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 14:24:33 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: I've just ripped apart and cleaned up the current projects page. I've added the material in this PR with minor changes. Thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=41413 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 15:30: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B519A37B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7BC43E6A for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g93MU4Co052647 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g93MU4fb052646; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210032230.g93MU4fb052646@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Giorgos Keramidas Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Reply-To: Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/43502; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Gary W. Swearingen" , Tom Rhodes Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 01:26:45 +0300 On 2002-10-03 10:56, "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > Tom Rhodes writes: > > I think what the manual page means here is that cpmod(1) is currently > > not availible in the FreeBSD Operating System... > > The manual clearly does not mean that it is not available. It even > seems to imply that it IS available. No it doesn't imply it. The double negative is something I don't like, but the following is clear to me: : BUGS : Znew does not maintain the time stamp with the -P option : if cpmod(1) is not available and touch(1) does not support : the -r option. The -P option depends on either cpmod(1) being available, or touch(1) supporting the -r option. It is not even a "bug" if you ask me. Giorgos. PS ::= The followups to this PR have been sent to freebsd-doc rather than bug-followup. Thus, they are not available as part of the audit trail of this PR. They can be found within the mailing list archives. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 16:31:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59B437B404; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vectors.cx (manifold.vectors.cx [64.163.147.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EB943E42; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: from vectors.cx (9853cf52dec1d8d9775504f06cc2e5e4@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id g93NW0ho006225; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey@vectors.cx) Received: (from monkey@localhost) by vectors.cx (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g93NW0Cs006224; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:32:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from monkey) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:32:00 -0700 From: Adam Weinberger To: Tom Rhodes Cc: "Gary W. Swearingen" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/43502: Manual page ZNEW(1) has a bug Message-ID: <20021003233200.GP45363@vectors.cx> References: <200210030710.g937A4o9081365@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021003153013.336e92a0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021003165117.7f86780d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021003165117.7f86780d.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Editor: Vim 6.1 http://www.vim.org X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5 http://www.mutt.org X-URL: http://www.vectors.cx http://www.crackula.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> (10.03.2002 @ 1351 PST): Tom Rhodes said, in 1.5K: << > > That sounds like an argument for fixing it locally, since vendor > > source changes don't need to be tracked frequently and there's a low > > probabilty of the vender source being changed to suit the FreeBSD PR. > > Not really an argument, in fact I like the idea. Why should we have > users check manual pages for utilties that do not exist ;) then, for that matter, dhclient(8) contains references to omshell(8) and omapi(3). -Adam -- "Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw." -Lilo, "Lilo & Stitch" Adam Weinberger adam@vectors.cx http://vectors.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 16:43:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CB237B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7494243E6A; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g93NhLCo076364; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g93NhKon076359; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200210032343.g93NhKon076359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: stevedav@pacbell.net, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/43430: Documentation incorrect in /usr/src/Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Documentation incorrect in /usr/src/Makefile State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 16:42:33 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Closed. The documentation is fine, perhaps you have an older version? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=43430 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 17:35: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA5937B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092AF43E3B; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g940Z3Co091629; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g940Z39r091624; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200210040035.g940Z39r091624@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pepper@rockefeller.edu, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39084: Various tweaks to doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Various tweaks to doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:34:24 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: I've merged almost all of the patch fixes. The failed 8 hunks will go in here soon. Thanks for the submission! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39084 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 17:42:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FDB37B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A4143E7B; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g940gdCo093726; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g940gdvx093722; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:42:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200210040042.g940gdvx093722@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pepper@rockefeller.edu, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, trhodes@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39751: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take care of this. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take care of this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39751 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 18:32:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B3637B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7248543E42; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (trhodes@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g941WbCo008973; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from trhodes@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g941WbV2008969; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 18:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Rhodes Message-Id: <200210040132.g941WbV2008969@freefall.freebsd.org> To: pepper@rockefeller.edu, trhodes@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39852: Handbook: treatment of KERNCONF is inconsistent. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook: treatment of KERNCONF is inconsistent. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: trhodes State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 18:31:48 PDT 2002 State-Changed-Why: I've added a 'note' on building a kernel aside from GENERIC using the same KERNELCONF line as talked about in the custom kernel chapter. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39852 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 19:30:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35ED37B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED04B43E7B; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09281ABD1; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200210040042.g940gdvx093722@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200210040042.g940gdvx093722@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:30:02 -0400 To: Tom Rhodes From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/39751: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:42 PM -0700 2002/10/03, Tom Rhodes wrote: >Synopsis: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification > >State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback >State-Changed-By: trhodes >State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 >State-Changed-Why: >Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take >care of this. > > >Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes >Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes >Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 >Responsible-Changed-Why: >Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take >care of this. > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39751 Here's an SGML patch, based on Eric's HTML patch. Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.180 diff -u -r1.180 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2002/10/04 00:34:10 1.180 +++ chapter.sgml 2002/10/04 02:27:13 @@ -506,7 +506,12 @@ - Follow the menus to exit sysinstall. + Scroll up to Exit and press + Enter. + + + + Press X to exit sysinstall. -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 19:43:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E7637B401; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E077E43E65; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g942hIwi041212; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:43:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:40:25 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Chris Pepper Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/39751: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification Message-Id: <20021003224025.1d1c1e1c.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: References: <200210040042.g940gdvx093722@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Didn't commit right away, but I got it in there! Thanks alot! If you want to clean up some of your other PR's and Patches then I'll get to them for you. Thanks alot for this submission! On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:30:02 -0400 Chris Pepper wrote: > At 5:42 PM -0700 2002/10/03, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >Synopsis: handbook/ports-using.html sysinstall clarification > > > >State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > >State-Changed-By: trhodes > >State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 > >State-Changed-Why: > >Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take > >care of this. > > > > > >Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->trhodes > >Responsible-Changed-By: trhodes > >Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 3 17:41:57 PDT 2002 > >Responsible-Changed-Why: > >Could you submit a patch for the sgml source? Otherwise I'll take > >care of this. > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=39751 > > Here's an SGML patch, based on Eric's HTML patch. > > Index: chapter.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: > /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.180 diff -u -r1.180 chapter.sgml > --- chapter.sgml 2002/10/04 00:34:10 1.180 > +++ chapter.sgml 2002/10/04 02:27:13 > @@ -506,7 +506,12 @@ > > > > - Follow the menus to exit > sysinstall. > + Scroll up to Exit and press > + Enter. > + > + > + > + Press X to exit > sysinstall. > > > > > -- > Chris Pepper: > Rockefeller University: > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Oct 3 20:30:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B289C37B401 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1973843E65 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 20:30:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dfoxxy@aol.com) Received: from Dfoxxy@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id n.17.2f5c97be (4214) for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:30:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dfoxxy@aol.com Message-ID: <17.2f5c97be.2ace653d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:30:05 EDT Subject: Dfoxxy To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i would like to know if i can get the sound device for this computer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 0: 7:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86D637B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gnome02.net.rol.ru (gnome02.net.rol.ru [194.67.1.180]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F4443E7B for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 00:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lennii@rol.ru) Received: from 195.239.227.71.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru ([195.239.227.71]:62238 "EHLO 195.239.227.71.adsl-spb.net.rol.ru" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]" whoson: "lennii@rol.ru" smtp-auth: TLS-CIPHER: TLS-PEER: ) by gnome02.net.rol.ru with ESMTP id ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:07:41 +0400 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:07:01 +0400 From: PostMaster X-Mailer: The Bat! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:55:44PM -0700, Tom Rhodes wrote: > trhodes 2002/10/03 16:55:44 PDT > > Modified files: > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > Log: > Make the domain name in the text match the example in the image. Aargh. We should be using example.{net,com,org} consistently throughout the documentation - that's what they are for. I'd rather see the screenshot fixed. Please back this out and do it that way. Ceri [Moved to -doc] -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 6:25: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DBC37B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD1843E4A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g94DP1wi044537; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:25:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:22:04 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-Id: <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print version. rpratt will get this fixed eventually. If you still think I should back it, then I will do so. I agree though, in the next commit to this chapter, rpratt should change it to example (unless someone has the time to do this now. I unfortuntatly do not.) On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:43:10 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:55:44PM -0700, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > trhodes 2002/10/03 16:55:44 PDT > > > > Modified files: > > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > > Log: > > Make the domain name in the text match the example in the image. > > Aargh. > We should be using example.{net,com,org} consistently throughout the > documentation - that's what they are for. > > I'd rather see the screenshot fixed. Please back this out and do it > that way. > > Ceri > [Moved to -doc] > > -- > you can't see when light's so strong > you can't see when light is gone > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 6:48:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F8437B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1B143E6A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xSop-0001RD-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20021004134839.GA5311@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:22:04AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print > version. What print version ? I've missed this... > rpratt will get this fixed eventually. If you still think > I should back it, then I will do so. I haven't seen Randy do the 4.7 updates yet (though I may have missed it). I'd agree that it should stay as it is until the screenshots are updated. > I agree though, in the next commit to this chapter, rpratt should > change it to example (unless someone has the time to do this now. > I unfortuntatly do not.) If I can remember the appropriate incantations, then I can do this tomorrow. Thanks for all your work recently too. 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I've missed this... The Third version of the handbook! :) > > > rpratt will get this fixed eventually. If you still think > > I should back it, then I will do so. > > I haven't seen Randy do the 4.7 updates yet (though I may have missed > it). I'd agree that it should stay as it is until the screenshots are > updated. Not sure if he did or not, I know he recently did *some* work on this area. Perhaps we should ping(8) him? > > > I agree though, in the next commit to this chapter, rpratt should > > change it to example (unless someone has the time to do this now. > > I unfortuntatly do not.) > > If I can remember the appropriate incantations, then I can do this > tomorrow. Please do ;) > > Thanks for all your work recently too. Not a problem. I'm about to sweep the www pages for some dead links as I have the time before my next class. While I'm thinking of it, I'll probly print a few sections and grammar/word sweep them. Perhaps even use them to do something to be sure the information is still valid. > > Ceri > > -- > you can't see when light's so strong > you can't see when light is gone > Take care! -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 7:27:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA02837B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [207.200.51.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B29443E3B; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94ERgs14745; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g94ERfF27637; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:27:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from centtech.com (electron [204.177.173.173]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94ERcx27630; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 09:27:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D9DA53D.2080103@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:27:09 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: core@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search engine replacement for FreeBSD.org site References: <3D93415E.8060403@centtech.com> <7mwup2kjpx.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <3D999AD6.7080104@centtech.com> <7mheg5ir3z.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <3D9C8CED.2010706@centtech.com> <7mvg4jf4q3.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:31:09 -0500, > Eric Anderson wrote: > >>>Sounds reasonable. As one of webmaster, I want to check the code what >>>program will be executed on www.FreeBSD.org box. I'm orry if you feel >>>I'm noisy, but that's what I should do. >>> >>>Core, can we take this approval of account to doceng@? Or should vote >>>on core@? >> >>Should I send a copy to you then? Do you want to see the indexer, >>search program, both, etc? > > > Sorry, I've too hassle. I've re-read doc@ thread about search engine > replacement. I cannot see any conclusion about replacement. Which thread? There have been quite a few, so I'm not 100% sure which one(s) you've read.. > I (of course core@ too) should not decide without doc@ team's > consensus. Ok.. I agree - although the doc team sent me to core.. > To go next step, you should find strong supporter (committer) for your > search engine. To become a committer (for committing our CVS > repository), you should find a committer as your mentor. Umm.. Does anyone want to do this? Please? :) > IMHO, your engine should improve as 1) and 2) in Nik's suggestion. In > addition to that, I'd like to include language selection which make > this able to search other language contents. Yes, agreed, but first things first. The search engine at this point is built in 2 parts - one for the www tree, and another part for the mailing lists. The www search is the one I want to start replacing now, and when that looks like it's ready, then I'll push into replacing the mailing list search engine. The language selection is a great feature to add, but I don't see any problems with adding functionality over time. > Sorry again, but please try to promoto more in doc@ list. So, now what? Would someone like to mentor me? Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Skydiving - safer than the stock market. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 7:41: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3018537B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BAF43E7B; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@employees.org) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021004144058.UXIH27763.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:40:58 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g94Eev3e039101; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g94EevXZ039100; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210041440.g94EevXZ039100@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020729 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Ceri Davies , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml In-Reply-To: <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021004134839.GA5311@submonkey.net> <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Rhodes message dated "Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:05:33 -0400." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-2018903435P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 07:40:57 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-2018903435P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:22:04AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print > > > version. > > > > What print version ? I've missed this... > > The Third version of the handbook! :) Ah, unless I've really missed something, I don't think a third edition is imminent. There's plenty of time to get this fixed. > > > rpratt will get this fixed eventually. If you still think > > > I should back it, then I will do so. > > > > I haven't seen Randy do the 4.7 updates yet (though I may have missed > > it). I'd agree that it should stay as it is until the screenshots are > > updated. > > Not sure if he did or not, I know he recently did *some* work on this > area. Perhaps we should ping(8) him? I'm pretty sure that Randy's done, based on an email conversation I had with him. He told me that there weren't all *that* many changes to the installation chapter, and in fact, he was working on making it be less version-specific. (That having been said, I haven't perused that part of the Handbook lately.) > > > I agree though, in the next commit to this chapter, rpratt should > > > change it to example (unless someone has the time to do this now. > > > I unfortuntatly do not.) > > > > If I can remember the appropriate incantations, then I can do this > > tomorrow. > > Please do ;) Murray already tagged the doc/ tree for the release. I'm not a big proponent of sliding tags for minor corrections like this (especially since we've got a bunch of other last minute fire-drills to cope with), so I'd say to take your time. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-2018903435P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE9nah52MoxcVugUsMRAvQIAJ0dHlRiaOXDDcIgB2E0PyeKzwrCCACglCzq kk9KuQZwez8N9ACo+NpnuAc= =73L+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-2018903435P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 7:51:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D5D37B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D903E43E6A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xTnM-0001ab-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:51:12 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:51:12 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Tom Rhodes Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20021004145112.GA6097@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021004134839.GA5311@submonkey.net> <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:05:33AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:22:04AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print > > > version. > > > > What print version ? I've missed this... > > The Third version of the handbook! :) Boggle. Where was that announced ? Is it being published soon or something? Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 7:53:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5FC37B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7634F43E6E; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:53:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xTpK-0001bK-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 15:53:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:53:14 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20021004145314.GB6097@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , "Bruce A. Mah" , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021004134839.GA5311@submonkey.net> <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200210041440.g94EevXZ039100@intruder.bmah.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210041440.g94EevXZ039100@intruder.bmah.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 07:40:57AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 > > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:22:04AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print > > > > version. > > > > > > What print version ? I've missed this... > > > > The Third version of the handbook! :) > > Ah, unless I've really missed something, I don't think a third edition > is imminent. There's plenty of time to get this fixed. Aah! > > > If I can remember the appropriate incantations, then I can do this > > > tomorrow. > > > > Please do ;) > > Murray already tagged the doc/ tree for the release. I'm not a big > proponent of sliding tags for minor corrections like this (especially > since we've got a bunch of other last minute fire-drills to cope with), > so I'd say to take your time. I wasn't planning on rushing it for release, really. I just have a personal crusade ;) Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 7:55:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C33C37B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBA543E77 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:55:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g94EtQwi045061; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:55:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:52:34 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-Id: <20021004105234.7ffe2a57.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021004145112.GA6097@submonkey.net> References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004092204.11529941.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021004134839.GA5311@submonkey.net> <20021004100533.1548aea0.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021004145112.GA6097@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:51:12 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:05:33AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:48:39 +0100 > > Ceri Davies wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 09:22:04AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > I did this for one reason, to make it look nice before the print > > > > version. > > > > > > What print version ? I've missed this... > > > > The Third version of the handbook! :) > > Boggle. Where was that announced ? Is it being published soon or > something? Nope. But apperently its planned (or at least has been talked about by a few people.) Although your right, I can't seem to find any other information about it other than private exchanges with a few people... So at this point it either leave my change like this and change both the image and the text, or back out my change and only update the image. Note, i'm not backing it out without a dispute :P > > Ceri > -- > you can't see when light's so strong > you can't see when light is gone > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 8: 8:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A609237B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.centtech.com (moat.centtech.com [207.200.51.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F20143E3B; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:08:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from sprint.centtech.com (sprint.centtech.com [10.177.173.31]) by proxy.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94F8bs15774; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:08:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id g94F8bB00495; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:08:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from centtech.com (electron [204.177.173.173]) by sprint.centtech.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g94F8Yx00488; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3D9DAED6.1090200@centtech.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:08:06 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ceri Davies Cc: Jun Kuriyama , core@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search engine replacement for FreeBSD.org site References: <3D93415E.8060403@centtech.com> <7mwup2kjpx.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <3D999AD6.7080104@centtech.com> <7mheg5ir3z.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <3D9C8CED.2010706@centtech.com> <7mvg4jf4q3.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> <3D9DA53D.2080103@centtech.com> <20021004144714.GA5908@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ceri Davies wrote: >>Ok.. I agree - although the doc team sent me to core.. > > > That was me. We on the doc team currently have two offers of new search > engines for the website, one from Eric, and another from Atomz. > > Michael Lucas is mainly liasing with Atomz, although there's a problem > with the httpd config on nwww which is denying their indexer access to the > mail archives (their user agent is explicitly blocked as it doesn't respect > robots.txt). I mailed wosch the same thread regarding this > (<20020917221109.GA13675@submonkey.net>), but so far I don't think > we've had a response. > > The doc team would like to see both search engines tried out, as to be frank > the current one is appalling, and nik suggested that Eric may be able to get > access to nwww for this purpose. Atomz are hosting their engine themselves. Right, the idea was to have both available - a local newer updated search engine, and then also have links to atomz search. >>>To go next step, you should find strong supporter (committer) for your >>>search engine. To become a committer (for committing our CVS >>>repository), you should find a committer as your mentor. >> >>Umm.. Does anyone want to do this? Please? :) > > > At this stage, I don't believe Eric wants to be in CVSROOT/access. > We just want him to able to get his code into a testable state on nwww. > At least I think this is the case, as I don't know what's passed between > Eric, nik and core prior to this, only what's been mentioned on -doc. > > Now that may not be possible, in which case perhaps a member of webmaster > could talk to Eric regarding how they could go about installing his code for > him. Actually, I really would not mind being in "CVSROOT/access" - I submit lots of PRs (for doc mostly) and have offered lots of help for keeping projects up to date, and web pages up to date also. Michael Lucas and I have even recently chatted about the help needed in the public relations/corporate liason area. Thanks Ceri and Jun for the help and direction on this.. 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Please back this out and do it that way. > Btw it was one of my PR, if my memories are good :), and the screenshot was attached with it. Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 12:18:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC1737B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [64.57.102.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B5E43E65 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:18:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@brturbo.com) Received: from 200-193-225-087-bsace7003.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br (200-193-225-087-bsace7003.dsl.telebrasilia.net.br [200.193.225.87]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559B0B736 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 59360 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Oct 2002 19:16:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20021004191654.59359.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:16:32 -0300 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Adding pt_BR under www/ repo ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-PRERELEASE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I was thinking that we could add pt_BR under www/ just like we did for zh (chinese). I mimicked the structure for zh. Just check - http://people.FreeBSD.org/~lioux/pt_BR.tar.gz Also, I would modify a few files: - http://people.FreeBSD.org/~lioux/patch-www.gz * www/Makefile - add pt_BR to SUBDIR end * www/en/Makefile - add pt_BR to WEB_LANG end * en/support.sgml - change all Portuguese entries to Brazilian Portuguese since they're related to pt_BR not pt_PT. Therefore, reorder a few of them. I am placing Brazilian Portuguese before Czech in the lists since B comes before C. I am noting this because there might be some other rule such as order by P against C (ignoring Brazilian prefix). And, yes, there is enough difference so that we need to note that pt_BR is not pt_PT. :) - add an entry for the pt_BR FAQ just like we have one for the zh FAQ Let me know what do you guys think about it. Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 13:13: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4A937B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A12E43E42; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xYok-0003ee-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:12:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:12:58 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Marc Fonvieille Cc: Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-ID: <20021004201258.GA13946@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Marc Fonvieille , Tom Rhodes , doc@FreeBSD.org References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004170557.GA266@marduk.blackend.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004170557.GA266@marduk.blackend.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 07:05:57PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:43:10AM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:55:44PM -0700, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > trhodes 2002/10/03 16:55:44 PDT > > > > > > Modified files: > > > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > > > Log: > > > Make the domain name in the text match the example in the image. > > > > Aargh. > > We should be using example.{net,com,org} consistently throughout the > > documentation - that's what they are for. > > > > I'd rather see the screenshot fixed. Please back this out and do it that way. > > Btw it was one of my PR, if my memories are good :), and the screenshot > was attached with it. Nice shooting, Tex! The PR was docs/37961, I've now committed the changes. Thanks, Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 14:14:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B861D37B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F9443E42 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 14:14:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g94LEZwi047025; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:14:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:11:43 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Ceri Davies Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml Message-Id: <20021004171143.6d9cc881.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021004201258.GA13946@submonkey.net> References: <200210032355.g93Ntiwp078651@freefall.freebsd.org> <20021004094310.GA1635@submonkey.net> <20021004170557.GA266@marduk.blackend.org> <20021004201258.GA13946@submonkey.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:12:58 +0100 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 07:05:57PM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 10:43:10AM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 04:55:44PM -0700, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > > trhodes 2002/10/03 16:55:44 PDT > > > > > > > > Modified files: > > > > en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install chapter.sgml > > > > Log: > > > > Make the domain name in the text match the example in the > > > > image. > > > > > > Aargh. > > > We should be using example.{net,com,org} consistently throughout > > > the documentation - that's what they are for. > > > > > > I'd rather see the screenshot fixed. Please back this out and do > > > it that way. > > > > Btw it was one of my PR, if my memories are good :), and the > > screenshot was attached with it. > > Nice shooting, Tex! > > The PR was docs/37961, I've now committed the changes. > Thanks, > > Ceri Thanks! > > -- > you can't see when light's so strong > you can't see when light is gone > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 17:37: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B0D37B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825843E75 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:37:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id 1A00DAE160; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:37:02 -0700 From: Bill Fumerola To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: hostmaster, the ftp contact? Message-ID: <20021005003701.GE80284@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-MUORG-20020910 i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can someone please come up with a better way to correct this? -- - bill fumerola / fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org / billf@mu.org Index: mirrors/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.242 diff -u -r1.242 chapter.sgml --- mirrors/chapter.sgml 30 Sep 2002 14:31:08 -0000 1.242 +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml 1 Oct 2002 17:49:31 -0000 @@ -1042,8 +1042,7 @@ USA - In case of problems, please contact the hostmaster - hostmaster@FreeBSD.org for this domain. + In case of problems, please contact the &a.doc;. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 18: 0:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E9537B404 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A823A43E6E for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9510CCo033475 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9510CRc033474; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C1637B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from angelica.unixdaemons.com (angelica.unixdaemons.com [209.148.64.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005C343E65 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:55:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hiten@angelica.unixdaemons.com) Received: from angelica.unixdaemons.com (hiten@localhost.unixdaemons.com [127.0.0.1]) by angelica.unixdaemons.com (8.12.5/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g94NhlVI044020 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hiten@localhost) by angelica.unixdaemons.com (8.12.5/8.12.1/Submit) id g94NhlvQ044019; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hiten) Message-Id: <200210042343.g94NhlvQ044019@angelica.unixdaemons.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Hiten Pandya Reply-To: Hiten Pandya To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/43678: [PATCH] Updates for the pciconf(8) manual page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 43678 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Updates for the pciconf(8) manual page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Oct 04 18:00:11 PDT 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Hiten Pandya >Release: FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: Not applicable. >Description: The pciconf(8) manual page, presents the '-l' option as usable a non-root user; which, is not true. I have tried this on a two FreeBSD systems, one with FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT (20020818-JPSNAP), and a FreeBSD 4.6-STABLE system. In the patch provided, it corrects the mistake. Secondly, the man page describes, under the BUGS section about, providing non-root access to the '-a' and '-r' options. I do not think this is possible, because of the kldload command, and other reason(s) outlined in the paragraph. The patch removes the statements described above. I have made two versions of the patch. The first one: http://www.unixdaemons.com/~hiten/work/diffs/pciconf.8.first ^^^ Removes the (false) information regarding the '-l' command line parameter to pciconf(8). NOTE, it does not contain a fix to the _second_ problem I outlined. If there is interest in the second problem, then, please fetch the patch provided from the location below, (NOTE: it fixes both the problems): http://www.unixdaemons.com/~hiten/work/diffs/pciconf.8.second Thanking in Advance. -- Hiten Pandya -- hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, hiten@softweyr.com >How-To-Repeat: Execute the pciconf(8) utility as non-root, and it will result in: "pciconf: /dev/pci: Permission denied". This error can be noticed, both, on -current, and -stable. >Fix: Apply the patch provided, to fix both of the problems that are described above (patch same as second URL). NOTE, this patch _SHOULD_ be MFC'ed, because it applies to -current, and -stable. Index: pciconf.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/usr.sbin/pciconf/pciconf.8,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 pciconf.8 --- pciconf.8 2002/09/17 18:10:39 1.22 +++ pciconf.8 2002/10/01 22:54:39 @@ -108,11 +108,10 @@ device, which contains several (similar or independent) functions on one chip. .Pp -The -.Fl l -option is the only one available to non-root users. -All other invocations of +All invocations of .Nm +except for +.Fl l require a .Ar selector of the form @@ -200,15 +199,3 @@ .Nm , but not in the underlying .Xr ioctl 2 . -.Pp -It might be useful to give non-root users access to the -.Fl a -and -.Fl r -options. -But only root will be able to execute a -.Nm kldload -to provide the device with a driver KLD, and reading of configuration space -registers may cause a failure in badly designed -.Tn PCI -chips. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 18:30:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB71537B404 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2D943E65 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g951Utwi048194 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:30:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:27:57 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Plea to the doc team Message-Id: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fellow Doc committers and contributers, Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks bad. While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of bad gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless words and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will read, and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing and will also cut down on grammar bogons. If you have nothing to do between classes, please print a section of the handbook and skim it. See where we use to many words, where paragraphs can be more clear or even where we make grammar mistakes. Then committers please make the changes or contributers please create a patch file for us. We could also use some 5.0 information. Currently we seem to lack documentation on ACPI, device.hints(5), mail clients (I'm working) STMP auth (I'm working) and various other features. Thanks to all who have read this far ;) -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 18:59: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F0B37B404; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81D943E91; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:59:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD6FABD1; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200208070820.g778K3Y1024817@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200208070820.g778K3Y1024817@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:49:31 -0400 To: Tom Hukins From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/41034: [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf comments Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Giorgos Keramidas , "M.J.Kouache" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 1:20 AM -0700 2002/08/07, Tom Hukins wrote: >The following reply was made to PR docs/41034; it has been noted by GNATS. > >From: Tom Hukins >To: Giorgos Keramidas >Cc: "M.J.Kouache" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/41034: [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf comments >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:12:39 +0100 > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 11:53:54PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2002-07-30 09:51 +0000, Tom Hukins wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 09:40:04PM -0700, M.J.Kouache wrote: > > > > > > > > -// its IP address here, and enable the line below. This >will make you > > > > -// benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic >in the Internet. > > > > +// it's IP address here, and enable the entry below. This >will let you > > > > +// benefit from its cache, thus reducing overall DNS >traffic on the Internet. > > > > > > This part of the patch is incorrect. In the posessive form, "its" is > > > the correct spelling. > > > > The second change of the first line, s/make you/let you/ and the > > second line of changes though seem like a good idea to me. What do > > you others think? > > Yes, I should have been clearer: I agree with the patch apart from > the "its" to "it's" change. Tom, You're right -- that's a straight error on my part. Somebody please apply the rest. Thanks, Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 18:59: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F74137B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.reppep.com (www.reppep.com [66.92.104.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F2A43E91; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pepper@reppep.com) Received: from [66.92.104.201] (g4.reppep.com [66.92.104.201]) by www.reppep.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8031AC2A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pepper@mail.reppep.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020710205336.GC2739@hades.hell.gr> References: <200207030020.g630K4GZ037338@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020708183507.GE1126@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <20020708200642.GG1126@fonix.adamsfamily.xx> <20020710205336.GC2739@hades.hell.gr> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:57:09 -0400 To: Giorgos Keramidas From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/39824: Various tweaks for doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml; corresponding comment clarification for GENERIC Cc: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:53 PM +0300 2002/07/10, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >On 2002-07-08 16:19 +0000, Chris Pepper wrote: >> >AFAIK, ipfw can be made to work in this way too. Some modules even >> >should be able to load themselves on-demand before they are first >> >needed, but I do not know what are these. (One tip: do not expect >> >this method to work with the msdosfs module and a floppy) >> >> That's a biggie -- all the IPFW docs (man page & handbook) says a >> kernel rebuild is required; neither source, nor >> /etc/defaults/rc.conf (which provides a bunch of switches to >> activate and configure IPFW) provides any information on enabling >> the firewall without a kernel rebuild, which I'm told is the *right* >> way to do it. Still searching.... > >Hmmm. Then we should fix the documentation. IPFW works fine as a >module, and has been working fine for quite some time. There are a >few details one should pay attention to (like kern.securelevel, which >might inhibit the loading of modules) but it generally works. What >parts of the documentation mention that recompiling a kernel is >absolutely necessary to make ipfw(8) work needs fixing :/ Giorgios, I think this PR got dropped. Can you apply whatever you like of it, and let me know what you don't like? I will revisit documenting IPFW/USB (module) load requirements at a later date, when I have time to play around with IPFW. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 19: 0:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E8437B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F272C43E3B for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9520GCo054800 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9520GY1054798; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200210050200.g9520GY1054798@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Chris Pepper Subject: Re: docs/41034: [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf comments Reply-To: Chris Pepper Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/41034; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Pepper To: Tom Hukins Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Giorgos Keramidas , "M.J.Kouache" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/41034: [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf comments Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:49:31 -0400 At 1:20 AM -0700 2002/08/07, Tom Hukins wrote: >The following reply was made to PR docs/41034; it has been noted by GNATS. > >From: Tom Hukins >To: Giorgos Keramidas >Cc: "M.J.Kouache" , bug-followup@FreeBSD.org >Subject: Re: docs/41034: [PATCH] Typos in /etc/named/named.conf comments >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:12:39 +0100 > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 11:53:54PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2002-07-30 09:51 +0000, Tom Hukins wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 09:40:04PM -0700, M.J.Kouache wrote: > > > > > > > > -// its IP address here, and enable the line below. This >will make you > > > > -// benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic >in the Internet. > > > > +// it's IP address here, and enable the entry below. This >will let you > > > > +// benefit from its cache, thus reducing overall DNS >traffic on the Internet. > > > > > > This part of the patch is incorrect. In the posessive form, "its" is > > > the correct spelling. > > > > The second change of the first line, s/make you/let you/ and the > > second line of changes though seem like a good idea to me. What do > > you others think? > > Yes, I should have been clearer: I agree with the patch apart from > the "its" to "it's" change. Tom, You're right -- that's a straight error on my part. Somebody please apply the rest. Thanks, Chris Pepper -- Chris Pepper: Rockefeller University: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 19: 6:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD2237B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F37443E75; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4D2F81432; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:36:08 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:36:08 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Message-ID: <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 21:27:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Fellow Doc committers and contributers, > > Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks > bad. Many things have been said over and over. One should not believe all statements. Overly terse and obfuscatory language is also undesirable. > While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of bad > gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless words > and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. You should check spelling and other punctuation too. > My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut > down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will read, > and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing and > will also cut down on grammar bogons. Style is more than verbosity or lack of same. I'm not heavily involved in the doc project, but I'm seeing too many rule-based modifications. Yes, overuse of the second person can be annoying, but it must bee seen in context. I'd rather see people write documentation which is intelligible and useful rather than documentation which merely adheres to certain rules. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 19:22:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBF137B484; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3850343E86; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g952MTwi048463; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:22:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:19:36 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Message-Id: <20021004221936.5b91d9b2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:36:08 +0930 "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 21:27:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Fellow Doc committers and contributers, > > > > Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks > > bad. > > Many things have been said over and over. One should not believe all > statements. Overly terse and obfuscatory language is also > undesirable. Heavily undesirable. > > > While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of bad > > gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless words > > and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. > > You should check spelling and other punctuation too. I'm doin this, trust me. ;) > > > My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut > > down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will read, > > and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing and > > will also cut down on grammar bogons. > > Style is more than verbosity or lack of same. > > I'm not heavily involved in the doc project, but I'm seeing too many > rule-based modifications. Yes, overuse of the second person can be > annoying, but it must bee seen in context. I'd rather see people > write documentation which is intelligible and useful rather than > documentation which merely adheres to certain rules. To be honest, we have several areas where its easier to read having less of: 'you must do this. now you must do that. after this has been done you can do this' could be reworded to: 'do this, then this, then this, and its finished' The other day I read an area in our handbook which had alot of useless words and it was so long and dull. Much of our docs should be correct and on the mark. Not filled with 'padding' if you will. ;) > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 19:31:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E4037B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D036143E65; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01A888147B; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:01:28 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:01:28 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tom Rhodes Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Message-ID: <20021005023128.GG83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021004221936.5b91d9b2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004221936.5b91d9b2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 22:19:36 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:36:08 +0930 > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > >> On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 21:27:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: >>> Fellow Doc committers and contributers, >>> >>> Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks >>> bad. >> >> Many things have been said over and over. One should not believe all >> statements. Overly terse and obfuscatory language is also >> undesirable. > > Heavily undesirable. > >>> While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of bad >>> gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless words >>> and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. >> >> You should check spelling and other punctuation too. > > I'm doin this, trust me. ;) I was actually referring to one punctuation and two spelling errors in your text above. >>> My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut >>> down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will >>> read, and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing >>> and will also cut down on grammar bogons. >> >> Style is more than verbosity or lack of same. >> >> I'm not heavily involved in the doc project, but I'm seeing too many >> rule-based modifications. Yes, overuse of the second person can be >> annoying, but it must bee seen in context. I'd rather see people >> write documentation which is intelligible and useful rather than >> documentation which merely adheres to certain rules. > > To be honest, we have several areas where its easier to read having > less of: > 'you must do this. now you must do that. after this has been > done you can do this' > > could be reworded to: > > 'do this, then this, then > this, and its finished' In that case, it sounds fine. But I couldn't have guessed it based on what you said above. > The other day I read an area in our handbook which had alot of > useless words and it was so long and dull. Much of our docs should > be correct and on the mark. Not filled with 'padding' if you will. Sure, there's a lot of room for improvement in the style in the book. I'm just concerned that saying "don't use 'you'" is liable to start a witch-hunt for that particular issue, rather than looking at the text as a whole. I'm reminded of this: William Safire's Rules for Writers: Remember to never split an infinitive. The passive voice should never be used. Do not put statements in the negative form. Verbs have to agree with their subjects. Proofread carefully to see if you words out. If you reread your work, you can find on rereading a great deal of repetition can be avoided by rereading and editing. A writer must not shift your point of view. And don't start a sentence with a conjunction. (Remember, too, a preposition is a terrible word to end a sentence with.) Don't overuse exclamation marks!! Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long sentences, as of 10 or more words, to their antecedents. Writing carefully, dangling participles must be avoided. If any word is improper at the end of a sentence, a linking verb is. Take the bull by the hand and avoid mixing metaphors. Avoid trendy locutions that sound flaky. Everyone should be careful to use a singular pronoun with singular nouns in their writing. Always pick on the correct idiom. The adverb always follows the verb. Last but not least, avoid cliches like the plague; seek viable alternatives. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 19:43: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB1D37B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2BA43E65; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g952h2wi048574; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:43:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:40:09 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Message-Id: <20021004224009.3b1f404b.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021005023128.GG83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021004221936.5b91d9b2.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021005023128.GG83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:01:28 +0930 "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 22:19:36 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:36:08 +0930 > > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > > > >> On Friday, 4 October 2002 at 21:27:57 -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote: > >>> Fellow Doc committers and contributers, > >>> > >>> Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs > >looks>> bad. > >> > >> Many things have been said over and over. One should not believe > >all> statements. Overly terse and obfuscatory language is also > >> undesirable. > > > > Heavily undesirable. > > > >>> While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of bad > >>> gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless > >words>> and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. > >> > >> You should check spelling and other punctuation too. > > > > I'm doin this, trust me. ;) > > I was actually referring to one punctuation and two spelling errors in > your text above. Yes, I know. I'd be lost without ispell/aspell ;) > > >>> My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut > >>> down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will > >>> read, and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing > >>> and will also cut down on grammar bogons. > >> > >> Style is more than verbosity or lack of same. > >> > >> I'm not heavily involved in the doc project, but I'm seeing too > >many> rule-based modifications. Yes, overuse of the second person > >can be> annoying, but it must bee seen in context. I'd rather see > >people> write documentation which is intelligible and useful rather > >than> documentation which merely adheres to certain rules. > > > > To be honest, we have several areas where its easier to read having > > less of: > > 'you must do this. now you must do that. after this has been > > done you can do this' > > > > could be reworded to: > > > > 'do this, then this, then > > this, and its finished' > > In that case, it sounds fine. But I couldn't have guessed it based on > what you said above. Then the way I phrased it, compaired to the way I ment was incorrect. I'm trying to kill repeating things. If something is mentioned in paragraph 1, it should be mentioned in paragraph 2 and 4. Unless of course there is an important reason hehe. > > > The other day I read an area in our handbook which had alot of > > useless words and it was so long and dull. Much of our docs should > > be correct and on the mark. Not filled with 'padding' if you will. > > Sure, there's a lot of room for improvement in the style in the book. > I'm just concerned that saying "don't use 'you'" is liable to start a > witch-hunt for that particular issue, rather than looking at the text > as a whole. > > I'm reminded of this: > > William Safire's Rules for Writers: > Another good source is Quick Access Reference For Writers which is alot like the above ;) Have no fear for a witch hunt, right now I'm trying to clean up the things that bothered me. Its horrible when you try to do something, and then read a bloated text on the issue, only to review what you've done and say 'that could have been done by listing the step and then telling me whats going on afterwords.' We'll get there eventually ;) > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 20: 5:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB8437B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp16en1.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.74.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD0243E3B; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:05:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stest030@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu) Received: from bobj.dyndns.org (cpe-gan-68-101-90-216-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [68.101.90.216]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6/2.4.0) with ESMTP id g9535isw036008 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:05:46 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Bob Johnson To: Tom Rhodes , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:05:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210042305.18970.stest030@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu> X-Scanned-By: NERDC Open Systems Group (http://open-systems.ufl.edu/services/virus-scan/) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday 04 October 2002 09:27 pm, Tom Rhodes appears to have written: > Fellow Doc committers and contributers, > > Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks > bad. While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of > bad gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless > words and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. > Perhaps, but it seems to me that the Handbook is not so much=20 technical documentation as it is a user manual. There is a difference. =20 It should be designed to make the user comfortable with the information=20 being presented. > My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut > down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will > read, and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing > and will also cut down on grammar bogons. It isn't clear to this writer how this is to be accomplished. Perhaps=20 if an example were provided of how one can "cut down extremly"=20 by eliminating the offending pronoun, the issue could be clarified.=20 One envisions a great deal of passive voice creeping in as a result of=20 this policy. > > If you have nothing to do between classes, please print a section > of the handbook and skim it. See where we use to many words, > where paragraphs can be more clear or even where we make grammar > mistakes. Then committers please make > the changes or contributers please create a patch file for us. I guess I've been a bit lax about this for the past year or two. Since=20 I actually am taking a class (for the first time in ten years) this=20 term, I have no excuse. I'll try to cover a chapter or two. > > We could also use some 5.0 information. Currently we seem to lack > documentation on ACPI, device.hints(5), mail clients (I'm working) > STMP auth (I'm working) and various other features. > > Thanks to all who have read this far ;) My pleasure... - Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 20:23:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE4337B401 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0939243E42 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([192.168.0.5]) by pittgoth.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id g953NCwi048790; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:23:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:20:19 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Bob Johnson Cc: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team Message-Id: <20021004232019.32e665b9.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <200210042305.18970.stest030@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu> References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <200210042305.18970.stest030@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 23:05:18 -0400 Bob Johnson wrote: > On Friday 04 October 2002 09:27 pm, Tom Rhodes appears to have > written: > > Fellow Doc committers and contributers, > > > > Its been said over and over the use of 'you' in technical docs looks > > bad. While I'm going to be at working cleaning up the doc tree of > > bad gammar (run-ons, incorrect use of semicolons, to many useless > > words and fragments) I'll try to kill the use of 'you'. > > > > Perhaps, but it seems to me that the Handbook is not so much > technical documentation as it is a user manual. There is a > difference. It should be designed to make the user comfortable with > the information being presented. Agreed. > > > My request is, if you remove the 'you' from documents you can cut > > down extremly on the amount you type, the amount a reader will > > read, and documentation size in general. This IMO is a good thing > > and will also cut down on grammar bogons. > > It isn't clear to this writer how this is to be accomplished. Perhaps > > if an example were provided of how one can "cut down extremly" > by eliminating the offending pronoun, the issue could be clarified. > One envisions a great deal of passive voice creeping in as a result of > > this policy. Actually, as pointed out after I sent this email, 'you' is fine, but putting 'you' in every other sentence does not look nice. By presenting a set of steps in a more straightforward fashion then filling the sentence with 'you this and you that' along with some extra boring and unneeded words can enlarge a paragraph ten fold. My recent change took a long paragraph (that used a run-on sentence, repeated a phrase twice although once in different words, and putting a different file system in each of the parts really sounded bad. Instead, I listed what needed to be done to what file systems. Quick, direct, simple. After my re-read, it looked much better ;) > > > > > If you have nothing to do between classes, please print a section > > of the handbook and skim it. See where we use to many words, > > where paragraphs can be more clear or even where we make grammar > > mistakes. Then committers please make > > the changes or contributers please create a patch file for us. > > I guess I've been a bit lax about this for the past year or two. > Since I actually am taking a class (for the first time in ten years) > this term, I have no excuse. I'll try to cover a chapter or two. Thanks for the help! > > > > > We could also use some 5.0 information. Currently we seem to lack > > documentation on ACPI, device.hints(5), mail clients (I'm working) > > STMP auth (I'm working) and various other features. > > > > Thanks to all who have read this far ;) > > My pleasure... > > - Bob > -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve www.Pittgoth.com -Pittgoth Discussion Portal trhodes@{Pittgoth.com, FreeBSD.org} PGP key by www: http://www.pittgoth.com/~darklogik/darklogik.key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Oct 4 22:15:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3634337B401; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5C043E4A; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021005051517.UFVH6431.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@localhost.localdomain>; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 05:15:17 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g955IFoS028237; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g955I9ZA028234; Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Cc: Tom Rhodes , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Plea to the doc team References: <20021004212757.2a7e3227.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 04 Oct 2002 22:18:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20021005020608.GE83766@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: <751y75a2ge.y75@localhost.localdomain> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg 'groggy' Lehey writes: > I'm not heavily involved in the doc project, but I'm seeing too many > rule-based modifications. Yes, overuse of the second person can be > annoying, but it must bee seen in context. I'd rather see people > write documentation which is intelligible and useful rather than > documentation which merely adheres to certain rules. Nobody can argue with the last two sentences, but but I'd hate to see them and that "too many" line discourage Tom from going hammer-and-tongs at the docs. I'll bet he fixes a lot more than he harms and the docs would be better off having him applying a lot of rules with a few less-than-perfect results than spending his time trying to make unintelligible sections intelligible -- a time-consuming and error-prone process. (He should leave that for AFTER class^h^h^h^h^hrule-applying.) It's not clear whether Greg said "too many" because he thinks that too many rule-based modifications made the text worse or because he thinks people are spending too much time doing that instead of improving intelligibility. I think Tom has his priorities straight in this matter. Make a quick-tho-less-than-optimal pass first, and then, if there's time, work on some of the hard stuff. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 0: 5: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D96A37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6A43E3B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:05:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akr_80@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 00:05:03 -0700 Received: from 203.200.145.222 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 07:05:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.200.145.222] From: "kuppuraj arumugam" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: want documents Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 07:05:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2002 07:05:03.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[86E64D00:01C26C3D] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org respected sir , i am using mac os x server , i am interest to use free bsd , so i want bsd documents , so please send me sir . my address SECREATRY DR.MAHALINGM COLLEGE OF ENGG& TECHNOLOGY NPT CAMPUS UDUMALAI ROAD POLLACHI - 03 COIMBATORE (DT) TAMILNADU INDIA Thanking you , _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 2: 0:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B159B37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2986A43E65 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03965; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 02:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3D9EAA1D.5060601@owt.com> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 02:00:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, es-mx MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kuppuraj arumugam Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: want documents References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kuppuraj arumugam wrote: > > respected sir , > > i am using mac os x server , i am interest to use free bsd , so i want > bsd documents , so please send me sir . > > my address You can download them for free. If you want hardback copies, you can order them in bookstores. To download them, you have to visit http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html and look for a ftp mirror close to you and then progress down the directories until you are at something similar to ftp://ftp9.freebsd.org/pub/os/FreeBSD/doc/ You can choose your language and what documents you want to download. The doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/ has almost everything. Some of the translations may be missing somethings. -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 3:13:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36B237B401; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C5D43E4A; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:13:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xlwC-0006H4-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:13:32 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:13:32 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Adding pt_BR under www/ repo ? Message-ID: <20021005101332.GB99605@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20021004191654.59359.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021004191654.59359.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 04:16:32PM -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking that we could add pt_BR under www/ just like > we did for zh (chinese). Very cool. > Let me know what do you guys think about it. I say go for it. I've tested your patches and www even builds ;^) Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 3:51:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B3037B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhadamanth.submonkey.net (pc1-cdif2-4-cust210.cdf.cable.ntl.com [80.4.10.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C317643E3B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from setantae@submonkey.net) Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xmWv-0006NE-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:51:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:51:29 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Bill Fumerola Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostmaster, the ftp contact? Message-ID: <20021005105129.GC99605@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Bill Fumerola , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20021005003701.GE80284@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021005003701.GE80284@elvis.mu.org> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 05:37:02PM -0700, Bill Fumerola wrote: > can someone please come up with a better way to correct this? I think that's making the situation worse. Being responsible for the DNS, hostmaster@FreeBSD.org should have a much better idea of which machine is hanging at the end of a CNAME and who's responsible for it than we will. Pointing this at questions@ makes the same amount of sense as using doc@. > diff -u -r1.242 chapter.sgml > --- mirrors/chapter.sgml 30 Sep 2002 14:31:08 -0000 1.242 > +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml 1 Oct 2002 17:49:31 -0000 > @@ -1042,8 +1042,7 @@ > USA > > > - In case of problems, please contact the hostmaster > - hostmaster@FreeBSD.org for this domain. > + In case of problems, please contact the &a.doc;. > > > Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 10:44: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5FA37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nic.upatras.gr (nic.upatras.gr [150.140.129.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC83943E4A for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 13056 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 17:37:01 -0000 Received: from upnet-dialinpool-93.upatras.gr (HELO hades.hell.gr) (@150.140.128.161) by nic.upatras.gr with SMTP; 5 Oct 2002 17:37:00 -0000 Received: from hades.hell.gr (hades [127.0.0.1]) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g95E5emm007566; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 17:05:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g95E5ekl007564; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 17:05:40 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 17:05:39 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Ceri Davies Cc: Bill Fumerola , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hostmaster, the ftp contact? Message-ID: <20021005140539.GG751@hades.hell.gr> References: <20021005003701.GE80284@elvis.mu.org> <20021005105129.GC99605@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021005105129.GC99605@submonkey.net> X-PGP-Fingerprint: C1EB 0653 DB8B A557 3829 00F9 D60F 941A 3186 03B6 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-10-05 11:51, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 05:37:02PM -0700, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > can someone please come up with a better way to correct this? > > > > diff -u -r1.242 chapter.sgml > > --- mirrors/chapter.sgml 30 Sep 2002 14:31:08 -0000 1.242 > > +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml 1 Oct 2002 17:49:31 -0000 > > @@ -1042,8 +1042,7 @@ > > USA > > > > > > - In case of problems, please contact the hostmaster > > - hostmaster@FreeBSD.org for this domain. > > + In case of problems, please contact the &a.doc;. > > I think that's making the situation worse. > Being responsible for the DNS, hostmaster@FreeBSD.org should have a much > better idea of which machine is hanging at the end of a CNAME and who's > responsible for it than we will. > > Pointing this at questions@ makes the same amount of sense as using doc@. Hmmm, we don't want people to flood admins at freebsd.org with thousands of email messages asking things like ``What does `host not found mean?'.'' Perhaps point users to -questions and then if their questions cannot be answered because they require administrative information that is not readily available to everyone (which should be a rare case), point them to admins? -- keramida@FreeBSD.org -==- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3: Wed Oct 2 04:55:42 EEST 2002 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 11: 6:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867037B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay04.roc.frontiernet.net (relay04.roc.frontiernet.net [66.133.131.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A52343E3B for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 11:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from buyahome@citlink.net) Received: (qmail 23988 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2002 18:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO buyahome) ([216.67.212.233]) (envelope-sender ) by relay04.roc.frontiernet.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Oct 2002 18:06:56 -0000 From: Tim & Les To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Why not move out of the city? 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Message-ID: <20021005185208.GA1839@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Giorgos Keramidas , Bill Fumerola , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <20021005003701.GE80284@elvis.mu.org> <20021005105129.GC99605@submonkey.net> <20021005140539.GG751@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021005140539.GG751@hades.hell.gr> X-message-flag: All your linuxconf-configured redhat are belong to us. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 05:05:39PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2002-10-05 11:51, Ceri Davies wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 05:37:02PM -0700, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > > can someone please come up with a better way to correct this? > > > > > > diff -u -r1.242 chapter.sgml > > > --- mirrors/chapter.sgml 30 Sep 2002 14:31:08 -0000 1.242 > > > +++ mirrors/chapter.sgml 1 Oct 2002 17:49:31 -0000 > > > @@ -1042,8 +1042,7 @@ > > > USA > > > > > > > > > - In case of problems, please contact the hostmaster > > > - hostmaster@FreeBSD.org for this domain. > > > + In case of problems, please contact the &a.doc;. > > > > I think that's making the situation worse. > > Being responsible for the DNS, hostmaster@FreeBSD.org should have a much > > better idea of which machine is hanging at the end of a CNAME and who's > > responsible for it than we will. > > > > Pointing this at questions@ makes the same amount of sense as using doc@. > > Hmmm, we don't want people to flood admins at freebsd.org with > thousands of email messages asking things like ``What does `host not > found mean?'.'' Perhaps point users to -questions and then if their > questions cannot be answered because they require administrative > information that is not readily available to everyone (which should be > a rare case), point them to admins? Agreed. Ceri -- you can't see when light's so strong you can't see when light is gone To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 15:35:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EE837B404 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from montevideo.com.uy (r200-61-110-20.multitel.net.uy [200.61.110.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B61A543E86 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:34:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rplsd@montevideo.com.uy) From: "La Sociedad Digital" To: (La Sociedad Digital) Subject: Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital / A Sociedade Digital. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:13:08 -0300 Reply-To: "La Sociedad Digital" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021005223454.B61A543E86@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital. (texto version espa駉la/texto version portuguesa). Bolet韓 1 / Octubre de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBEROAMERICANO DE LA SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI覰. http://www.sociedaddigital.org PRESENTACION: La Sociedad Digital se ha constituido en el principal Portal de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Ibero Am閞ica, comprendiendo en la actualidad cerca de quince secciones con un total de documentos estimable en aproximadamente 800, que cubren las 醨eas m醩 importantes de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇. Ello ha sido posible gracias al aporte y la preocupaci髇 de un conjunto de especialistas de uno y otro lado del Atl醤tico, concentrados en este proyecto abierto que comenz a ser construido en su expresi髇 virtual en octubre de 2001. En la actualidad, la mayor parte de las secciones del Portal se encuentran operativas. El proyecto se viene desarrollando de conformidad con las coordenadas propias de su primera fase: constituci髇 ordenada de un reservorio de informaci髇 actualizada de elevadas trascendencia para la comprensi髇 de la sociedad en Red conjuntamente con aportes propios producto de investigaci髇 colectiva por parte de los equipos de La Sociedad Digital o de aportes individuales de los miembros de su Board de Directores, en el marco de sus respectivas especialidades. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ESTRUCTURA: Las actuales secciones disponibles del Proyecto Portal de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 http://www.sociedaddigital.org son las siguientes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- NOVEDADES: Las incorporaciones documentales m醩 recientes en el Portal: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- EVENTOS CIENT虵ICOS A DESTACAR: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- INFORMACIONES DEL BOARD: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROYECTOS EN DESARROLLO: En este momento, La Sociedad Digital se encuentra desarrollando varios proyectos nuevos, los que se encuentran en diferentes etapas de progreso. En s韓tesis: (a) Los aspectos operativos: el Portal se encuentra en remodelaci髇, para una presentaci髇 en el futuro que pueda considerarse m醩 amigable en su relaci髇 con el usuario, y que permitir un despliegue de mayor agilidad de su contenido documental, as como la correlaci髇 tem醫ica de sus contenidos. (b) El sistema estad韘tico: dentro de los proyectos de investigaci髇 oportunamente planteados se dise耋 un completo sistema estad韘tico que pudiera ser considerado como uno de los m醩 completos del mundo, reuniendo y conciliando informaci髇 de al menos veinte fuentes confiables de informaci髇, para permitir conocer los principales indicadores de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇, al menos en tres grandes niveles de desagregaci髇: contexto mundial, contexto continental y situaci髇 de los pa韘es. Los indicadores mencionados comprenden accesibilidad, desarrollo de telecomunicaciones, infraestructura de Internet, comercio electr髇ico, lenguajes en la Red e indicadores representativos de ciencia y tecnolog韆. El trabajo contin鷄 y se estima que estar disponible "en red" en aproximadamente dos meses. (c) Estudio del estado de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Am閞ica Latina: este proyecto de investigaci髇, de naturaleza colectiva y abierta, ha culminado su fase de dise駉 y de t閞minos de referencia. En el decurso del mes de junio comenzar a ser operativo, y se espera llegar con un diagn髎tico adecuado hacia fines del presente a駉 y convertirlo en un aporte independiente y trascendente para ser presentado en la Cumbre de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Junio de 2003. Informaciones y contribuciones en info sociedaddigital.org (d) Colecci髇 de estudios e informaci髇 sobre aspectos pr醕ticos del comercio electr髇ico: se constituir en una de las secciones del Portal, considerada de alta utilidad. Se contin鷄 trabajando en la clasificaci髇 de la biblioteca virtual aportada por el Consejero Hugo Gallegos de Per y la secci髇 se encontrar "en Red" en aproximadamente veinte d韆s. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Usted recibe este mensaje porque su direcci髇 de correo electr髇ico est incluida dentro de las m醩 de 100.000 que conforman LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, construida por referencias o bien por la relevancia de su trabajo, comunidad cient韋ica donde se discuten ideas, visiones, experiencias, pr醕ticas e informaci髇 sobre temas relacionados con La Sociedad de la Informaci髇, en especial en Ibero Am閞ica, impulsada por la Asociaci髇 Civil sin fines de lucro La Sociedad Digital. Si quiere tramitar el ALTA o la BAJA, o remitir una direcci髇 de correo electr髇ico a la comunidad, env韊 un mensaje a info@sociedaddigital.org Si desea dar a conocer alg鷑 art韈ulo, estudio u otro texto de su autor韆 o recomendarnos un trabajo de otro autor, env韊 su material o recomendaciones a info sociedaddigital.org La Sociedad Digital es un esfuerzo nacido en el Uruguay, co participado por especialistas de toda Iberoamerica y dirigido a la comunidad digital ibero americana. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nuestro Portal y consulte todos los recursos gratuitos de informaci髇 y conocimiento sobre Sociedad de la Informaci髇 disponibles en http://www.sociedaddigital.org Hasta nuestro pr髕imo encuentro! Equipo de comunicaci髇 de LaSocDig. Boletim 1 / Outubro de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBERO-AMERICANO DA SOCIEDADE DE INFORMA敲O www.sociedaddigital.org APRESENTA敲O La Sociedad Digital tem se constitu韉o no principal portal da sociedade de informa玢o da regi鉶 ibero-americana, compreendendo, na atualidade, cerca de quinze se珲es com um total de documentos estimado em aproximadamente 800, que abordam as 醨eas mais importantes da sociedade da informa玢o. Isto tem sido poss韛el gra鏰s ao aporte e preocupa玢o de um conjunto de especialistas dos dois lados do Atl鈔tico, que se concentraram neste projeto aberto, cuja constitui玢o, em sua express鉶 virtual, iniciou-se em outubro de 2001. No momento, a maior parte das se珲es do portal se encontra em funcionamento. O projeto vem se aperfei鏾ando na seqncia das mesmas coordenadas estabelecidas em sua primeira fase: constitui玢o ordenada de um reservat髍io de informa珲es atualizadas e de elevada transcend阯cia para a compreens鉶 da sociedade da Rede, conjuntamente com as contribui珲es das equipes de La Sociedad Digital, produto da investiga玢o coletiva, bem como outros aportes individuais dos membros de seu corpo de conselheiros, em suas respectivas especialidades. O Projeto Portal da Sociedade da Informa玢o e suas se珲es dispon韛eis no endere鏾 www.sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROJETOS EM DESENVOLVIMENTO: Neste momento, La Sociedad Digital encontra-se desenvolvendo v醨ios projetos novos, os quais se encontram em diferentes fases. Em s韓tese: (a) Aspectos operativos: o Portal se encontra em reformula玢o para uma apresenta玢o futura mais amig醰el em sua rela玢o com o usu醨io, com um desdobramento mais 醙il de seus documentos e da correla玢o tem醫ica de seus conte鷇os. (b) Sistema estat韘tico: dentro dos projetos de investiga玢o a serem oportunamente implantados, elaborou-se um sistema estat韘tico que pudesse ser considerado como um dos mais completos do mundo, reunindo e conciliando informa珲es extra韉as de, pelo menos, vinte fontes confi醰eis de informa玢o, ao menos em tr阺 grandes n韛eis de desagrega玢o: contexto mundial, contexto continental e situa玢o dos pa韘es. Os indicadores mencionados compreendem: acessibilidade, desenvolvimento das telecomunica珲es, infraestrutura da Internet, com閞cio eletr鬾ico, linguagens da Rede e indicadores representativos da ci阯cia e tecnologia. O trabalho continua e se estima que estar dispon韛el em, aproximadamente, dois meses. (c) Estudos sobre a Sociedade da Informa玢o na Am閞ica Latina: este projeto de investiga玢o, de natureza coletiva e aberta, finalizou sua fase de elabora玢o e de termos de refer阯cia. No decurso do m阺 de junho entrou em opera玢o e se espera chegar a um diagn髎tico adequado at o final do ano, ocasi鉶 em que ser convertido em aporte independente e transcendente, para ser apresentado C鷓ula da Sociedade de Informa玢o, em junho de 2003. Informa珲es e contribui珲es no info@sociedaddigital.org (d) Estudos sobre o com閞cio eletr鬾ico na Am閞ica Latina: o projeto, como o anterior, de natureza coletiva e aberta, tamb閙 concretizou sua fase de elabora玢o e de termos de refer阯cia. Seu funcionamento est previsto para o decurso do m阺 de julho, culminando em dezembro de 2002. Estar contribuindo assim para a continuidade dos estudos que, a respeito do com閞cio eletr鬾ico, desenvolveram-se na ALADI entre 2000 e 2001. Informa珲es e contribui珲es no info@sociedaddigital.org (e) Colet鈔eas de estudos e informa珲es sobre aspectos pr醫icos do com閞cio eletr鬾ico: ser uma das se珲es do Portal, considerada de alta utilidade. Est em desenvolvimento o trabalho de classifica玢o da biblioteca virtual, contribui玢o do Conselheiro Hugo Gallegos, do Peru. A se玢o estar dispon韛el na Rede em, aproximadamente, vinte dias. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Voc recebe essa mensagem porque seu correio eletr鬾ico est inclu韉o em mais de 100.000 que configuram LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, comunidade cient韋ica, onde se discutem id閕as, vis鮡s, experi阯cias, pr醫icas e informa珲es sobre temas relacionados com a Sociedade da Informa玢o, em especial na regi鉶 ibero-americana, promovida pela associa玢o civil sem fins lucrativos La Sociedad Digital, e pela Sociedad Digital Internet Research. Se desejar incluir, excluir ou redefinir a dire玢o do correio eletr鬾ico, envie uma mensagem para info@sociedaddigital.org Se desejar enviar algum artigo, estudo, texto de sua autoria ou recomendar o trabalho de outro autor, envie seu material ou recomenda珲es a info@sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nosso Portal e consulte todos os recursos gratuitos de informa玢o e conhecimento sobre Sociedade da Informa玢o, dispon韛eis no endere鏾 www.sociedaddigital.org At nosso pr髕imo encontro!!! Equipe de Comunica玢o de LaSocDig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 15:42:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B964A37B410 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from montevideo.com.uy (r200-61-110-20.multitel.net.uy [200.61.110.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E1F3243E77 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 15:42:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rplsd@montevideo.com.uy) From: "La Sociedad Digital" To: (La Sociedad Digital) Subject: Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital / A Sociedade Digital. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 08:20:18 -0300 Reply-To: "La Sociedad Digital" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021005224216.E1F3243E77@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Presentacion de La Sociedad Digital. (texto version espa駉la/texto version portuguesa). Bolet韓 1 / Octubre de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBEROAMERICANO DE LA SOCIEDAD DE LA INFORMACI覰. http://www.sociedaddigital.org PRESENTACION: La Sociedad Digital se ha constituido en el principal Portal de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Ibero Am閞ica, comprendiendo en la actualidad cerca de quince secciones con un total de documentos estimable en aproximadamente 800, que cubren las 醨eas m醩 importantes de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇. Ello ha sido posible gracias al aporte y la preocupaci髇 de un conjunto de especialistas de uno y otro lado del Atl醤tico, concentrados en este proyecto abierto que comenz a ser construido en su expresi髇 virtual en octubre de 2001. En la actualidad, la mayor parte de las secciones del Portal se encuentran operativas. El proyecto se viene desarrollando de conformidad con las coordenadas propias de su primera fase: constituci髇 ordenada de un reservorio de informaci髇 actualizada de elevadas trascendencia para la comprensi髇 de la sociedad en Red conjuntamente con aportes propios producto de investigaci髇 colectiva por parte de los equipos de La Sociedad Digital o de aportes individuales de los miembros de su Board de Directores, en el marco de sus respectivas especialidades. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ESTRUCTURA: Las actuales secciones disponibles del Proyecto Portal de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 http://www.sociedaddigital.org son las siguientes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- NOVEDADES: Las incorporaciones documentales m醩 recientes en el Portal: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- EVENTOS CIENT虵ICOS A DESTACAR: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- INFORMACIONES DEL BOARD: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROYECTOS EN DESARROLLO: En este momento, La Sociedad Digital se encuentra desarrollando varios proyectos nuevos, los que se encuentran en diferentes etapas de progreso. En s韓tesis: (a) Los aspectos operativos: el Portal se encuentra en remodelaci髇, para una presentaci髇 en el futuro que pueda considerarse m醩 amigable en su relaci髇 con el usuario, y que permitir un despliegue de mayor agilidad de su contenido documental, as como la correlaci髇 tem醫ica de sus contenidos. (b) El sistema estad韘tico: dentro de los proyectos de investigaci髇 oportunamente planteados se dise耋 un completo sistema estad韘tico que pudiera ser considerado como uno de los m醩 completos del mundo, reuniendo y conciliando informaci髇 de al menos veinte fuentes confiables de informaci髇, para permitir conocer los principales indicadores de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇, al menos en tres grandes niveles de desagregaci髇: contexto mundial, contexto continental y situaci髇 de los pa韘es. Los indicadores mencionados comprenden accesibilidad, desarrollo de telecomunicaciones, infraestructura de Internet, comercio electr髇ico, lenguajes en la Red e indicadores representativos de ciencia y tecnolog韆. El trabajo contin鷄 y se estima que estar disponible "en red" en aproximadamente dos meses. (c) Estudio del estado de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Am閞ica Latina: este proyecto de investigaci髇, de naturaleza colectiva y abierta, ha culminado su fase de dise駉 y de t閞minos de referencia. En el decurso del mes de junio comenzar a ser operativo, y se espera llegar con un diagn髎tico adecuado hacia fines del presente a駉 y convertirlo en un aporte independiente y trascendente para ser presentado en la Cumbre de la Sociedad de la Informaci髇 en Junio de 2003. Informaciones y contribuciones en info sociedaddigital.org (d) Colecci髇 de estudios e informaci髇 sobre aspectos pr醕ticos del comercio electr髇ico: se constituir en una de las secciones del Portal, considerada de alta utilidad. Se contin鷄 trabajando en la clasificaci髇 de la biblioteca virtual aportada por el Consejero Hugo Gallegos de Per y la secci髇 se encontrar "en Red" en aproximadamente veinte d韆s. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Usted recibe este mensaje porque su direcci髇 de correo electr髇ico est incluida dentro de las m醩 de 100.000 que conforman LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, construida por referencias o bien por la relevancia de su trabajo, comunidad cient韋ica donde se discuten ideas, visiones, experiencias, pr醕ticas e informaci髇 sobre temas relacionados con La Sociedad de la Informaci髇, en especial en Ibero Am閞ica, impulsada por la Asociaci髇 Civil sin fines de lucro La Sociedad Digital. Si quiere tramitar el ALTA o la BAJA, o remitir una direcci髇 de correo electr髇ico a la comunidad, env韊 un mensaje a info@sociedaddigital.org Si desea dar a conocer alg鷑 art韈ulo, estudio u otro texto de su autor韆 o recomendarnos un trabajo de otro autor, env韊 su material o recomendaciones a info sociedaddigital.org La Sociedad Digital es un esfuerzo nacido en el Uruguay, co participado por especialistas de toda Iberoamerica y dirigido a la comunidad digital ibero americana. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nuestro Portal y consulte todos los recursos gratuitos de informaci髇 y conocimiento sobre Sociedad de la Informaci髇 disponibles en http://www.sociedaddigital.org Hasta nuestro pr髕imo encuentro! Equipo de comunicaci髇 de LaSocDig. Boletim 1 / Outubro de 2002. LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL - PORTAL IBERO-AMERICANO DA SOCIEDADE DE INFORMA敲O www.sociedaddigital.org APRESENTA敲O La Sociedad Digital tem se constitu韉o no principal portal da sociedade de informa玢o da regi鉶 ibero-americana, compreendendo, na atualidade, cerca de quinze se珲es com um total de documentos estimado em aproximadamente 800, que abordam as 醨eas mais importantes da sociedade da informa玢o. Isto tem sido poss韛el gra鏰s ao aporte e preocupa玢o de um conjunto de especialistas dos dois lados do Atl鈔tico, que se concentraram neste projeto aberto, cuja constitui玢o, em sua express鉶 virtual, iniciou-se em outubro de 2001. No momento, a maior parte das se珲es do portal se encontra em funcionamento. O projeto vem se aperfei鏾ando na seqncia das mesmas coordenadas estabelecidas em sua primeira fase: constitui玢o ordenada de um reservat髍io de informa珲es atualizadas e de elevada transcend阯cia para a compreens鉶 da sociedade da Rede, conjuntamente com as contribui珲es das equipes de La Sociedad Digital, produto da investiga玢o coletiva, bem como outros aportes individuais dos membros de seu corpo de conselheiros, em suas respectivas especialidades. O Projeto Portal da Sociedade da Informa玢o e suas se珲es dispon韛eis no endere鏾 www.sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ PROJETOS EM DESENVOLVIMENTO: Neste momento, La Sociedad Digital encontra-se desenvolvendo v醨ios projetos novos, os quais se encontram em diferentes fases. Em s韓tese: (a) Aspectos operativos: o Portal se encontra em reformula玢o para uma apresenta玢o futura mais amig醰el em sua rela玢o com o usu醨io, com um desdobramento mais 醙il de seus documentos e da correla玢o tem醫ica de seus conte鷇os. (b) Sistema estat韘tico: dentro dos projetos de investiga玢o a serem oportunamente implantados, elaborou-se um sistema estat韘tico que pudesse ser considerado como um dos mais completos do mundo, reunindo e conciliando informa珲es extra韉as de, pelo menos, vinte fontes confi醰eis de informa玢o, ao menos em tr阺 grandes n韛eis de desagrega玢o: contexto mundial, contexto continental e situa玢o dos pa韘es. Os indicadores mencionados compreendem: acessibilidade, desenvolvimento das telecomunica珲es, infraestrutura da Internet, com閞cio eletr鬾ico, linguagens da Rede e indicadores representativos da ci阯cia e tecnologia. O trabalho continua e se estima que estar dispon韛el em, aproximadamente, dois meses. (c) Estudos sobre a Sociedade da Informa玢o na Am閞ica Latina: este projeto de investiga玢o, de natureza coletiva e aberta, finalizou sua fase de elabora玢o e de termos de refer阯cia. No decurso do m阺 de junho entrou em opera玢o e se espera chegar a um diagn髎tico adequado at o final do ano, ocasi鉶 em que ser convertido em aporte independente e transcendente, para ser apresentado C鷓ula da Sociedade de Informa玢o, em junho de 2003. Informa珲es e contribui珲es no info@sociedaddigital.org (d) Estudos sobre o com閞cio eletr鬾ico na Am閞ica Latina: o projeto, como o anterior, de natureza coletiva e aberta, tamb閙 concretizou sua fase de elabora玢o e de termos de refer阯cia. Seu funcionamento est previsto para o decurso do m阺 de julho, culminando em dezembro de 2002. Estar contribuindo assim para a continuidade dos estudos que, a respeito do com閞cio eletr鬾ico, desenvolveram-se na ALADI entre 2000 e 2001. Informa珲es e contribui珲es no info@sociedaddigital.org (e) Colet鈔eas de estudos e informa珲es sobre aspectos pr醫icos do com閞cio eletr鬾ico: ser uma das se珲es do Portal, considerada de alta utilidade. Est em desenvolvimento o trabalho de classifica玢o da biblioteca virtual, contribui玢o do Conselheiro Hugo Gallegos, do Peru. A se玢o estar dispon韛el na Rede em, aproximadamente, vinte dias. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Voc recebe essa mensagem porque seu correio eletr鬾ico est inclu韉o em mais de 100.000 que configuram LA SOCIEDAD DIGITAL, comunidade cient韋ica, onde se discutem id閕as, vis鮡s, experi阯cias, pr醫icas e informa珲es sobre temas relacionados com a Sociedade da Informa玢o, em especial na regi鉶 ibero-americana, promovida pela associa玢o civil sem fins lucrativos La Sociedad Digital, e pela Sociedad Digital Internet Research. Se desejar incluir, excluir ou redefinir a dire玢o do correio eletr鬾ico, envie uma mensagem para info@sociedaddigital.org Se desejar enviar algum artigo, estudo, texto de sua autoria ou recomendar o trabalho de outro autor, envie seu material ou recomenda珲es a info@sociedaddigital.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Visite nosso Portal e consulte todos os recursos gratuitos de informa玢o e conhecimento sobre Sociedade da Informa玢o, dispon韛eis no endere鏾 www.sociedaddigital.org At nosso pr髕imo encontro!!! Equipe de Comunica玢o de LaSocDig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Oct 5 21:14:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C899C37B401 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rogelior.dyndns.org (lsanca1-ar19-4-46-082-020.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net [4.46.82.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7DC43E65 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rogelio@rogelior.dyndns.org) Received: from rogelior.dyndns.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rogelior.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g964JRnr003762 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rogelio@rogelior.dyndns.org) Received: (from rogelio@localhost) by rogelior.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g964JRMB003761 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 21:19:26 -0700 From: Rogelio Rodriguez To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: TODO lists Message-ID: <20021006041926.GA562@rogelior.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What "TODO lists" does the contributing article refer to? 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