From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 14 3:19:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF1137B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1518243EBE for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from g.w.k@web.de) Received: from [213.148.149.130] (helo=hunter.muc.macsch.com) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.75 #2) id 1812Jf-0003XI-00; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:19:15 +0200 Subject: Re: VMware under FreeBSD From: "Georg-W. Koltermann" To: Spike Gronim Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, ak@freenet.co.uk In-Reply-To: <20021011111910.A39700@geofront.res.cmu.edu> References: <20021011111910.A39700@geofront.res.cmu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 14 Oct 2002 12:19:49 +0200 Message-Id: <1034590800.3603.10.camel@hunter.muc.macsch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use VMware 2, /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2. I don't know if VMware 3 will work. I don't feel like upgrading and spending more money :-) -- Regards, Georg. Am Fr, 2002-10-11 um 17.19 schrieb Spike Gronim: > > I'd like to buy VMware and use it on my FreeBSD box. I used an old > version of VMware on FreeBSD years ago, but have not paid attention to current > developments. The emulators/vmware port is marked broken; does VMware work? If > I buy Workstation 3.2, will it work under FreeBSD? Please CC: me as I'm not > subscribed to the list. Thanks. > > -- > > > --Spike Gronim > wwg@andrew.cmu.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 14 4:50:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3EB37B401 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A06543E42 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 04:50:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (localhost.wop.wtb.tue.nl [127.0.0.1]) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9EBoVPb000561; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g9EBoVFW000560; Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:50:31 +0200 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: "Georg-W. Koltermann" Cc: Spike Gronim , freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG, ak@freenet.co.uk Subject: Re: VMware under FreeBSD Message-ID: <20021014115031.GA520@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <20021011111910.A39700@geofront.res.cmu.edu> <1034590800.3603.10.camel@hunter.muc.macsch.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1034590800.3603.10.camel@hunter.muc.macsch.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 12:19:49PM +0200, Georg-W. Koltermann wrote: > I use VMware 2, /usr/ports/emulators/vmware2. I don't know if VMware 3 > will work. I don't feel like upgrading and spending more money :-) > > -- > Regards, > Georg. > > Am Fr, 2002-10-11 um 17.19 schrieb Spike Gronim: > > > > I'd like to buy VMware and use it on my FreeBSD box. I used an old > > version of VMware on FreeBSD years ago, but have not paid attention to current > > developments. The emulators/vmware port is marked broken; does VMware work? If > > I buy Workstation 3.2, will it work under FreeBSD? Please CC: me as I'm not > > subscribed to the list. Thanks. emulators/vmware2 works fine for me as well. However, I'm not sure if you can still purchase a VMware 2 license. I have a VMware 3 license lying around for a year now, but never used it since VMware 3 hasn't made its way into ports. I hope it will happen, but until then I'm fine with version 2. Occasionally there is some discussion about VMware 3 on the -emulation list. You might search the archive. Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 15 10:36:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B8237B401 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from davinci.isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7910B43EB2 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vangyzen@stat.duke.edu) Received: from floyd.isds.duke.edu (floyd.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.120]) by davinci.isds.duke.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9FHaMP20868 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Eric van Gyzen To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: What programs need linprocfs: Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 13:36:22 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to decide if linprocfs is really necessary on my systems. =20 Which programs need it? IIRC, StarOffice /setup/ needs it, but does=20 the program itself need it? Would it be beneficial to keep a list of=20 well-known, popular programs that need it, especially the ones in the=20 ports system? Thanks. Eric --=20 Eric van Gyzen Sr. Systems Programmer, ISDS, Duke University PGP Public Key: http://www.stat.duke.edu/~vangyzen/vangyzen.asc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 15 10:56:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7342837B401 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birch.ripe.net (birch.ripe.net [193.0.1.96]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7229543E8A for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:56:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marks@ripe.net) Received: from laptop.6bone.nl (cow.ripe.net [193.0.1.239]) by birch.ripe.net (8.12.5/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9FHupMG002824; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:56:51 +0200 Received: (nullmailer pid 1549 invoked by uid 1000); Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:56:50 -0000 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:56:50 +0200 From: Mark Santcroos To: Eric van Gyzen Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What programs need linprocfs: Message-ID: <20021015175650.GA560@laptop.6bone.nl> References: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Handles: MS6-6BONE, MS18417-RIPE X-RIPE-Spam-Status: NONE ; -1030 X-RIPE-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 01:36:22PM -0400, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > I'm trying to decide if linprocfs is really necessary on my systems. > Which programs need it? IIRC, StarOffice /setup/ needs it, but does > the program itself need it? Would it be beneficial to keep a list of > well-known, popular programs that need it, especially the ones in the > ports system? Disable it and find out. Mark -- Mark Santcroos RIPE Network Coordination Centre http://www.ripe.net/home/mark/ New Projects Group/TTM "The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us." -- Hobbes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 15 11: 0:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F8037B401 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927AB43EB2 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021015180010.KENC28253.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:00:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA80492; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 10:40:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Eric van Gyzen Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What programs need linprocfs: In-Reply-To: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org vmware uses it... On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > I'm trying to decide if linprocfs is really necessary on my systems. > Which programs need it? IIRC, StarOffice /setup/ needs it, but does > the program itself need it? Would it be beneficial to keep a list of > well-known, popular programs that need it, especially the ones in the > ports system? > > Thanks. > > Eric > > -- > Eric van Gyzen > Sr. Systems Programmer, ISDS, Duke University > PGP Public Key: http://www.stat.duke.edu/~vangyzen/vangyzen.asc > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Oct 16 11:39:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107237B401 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.FreeBSD.org (host-64-110-76-218.interpacket.net [64.110.76.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F0C143E3B for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fatigwarzo01@usa.com) From: "Fati Gwarzo" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:44:06 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: confidential. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021016183908.7F0C143E3B@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DEAR SIR, MAY THE BLESSINGS OF GOD BE UPON YOU AND GRANT YOUR FAMILY AND YOU THE WISDOM AND SYMPATHY TO UNDERSTAND OUR SITUATION AND HOW MUCH WE REALLY NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE. I AM THE WIFE OF ALHAJI ISMAILA GWARZO THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER TO THE FORMER LATE HEAD OF STATE GEN. SANI ABACHA WHO DIED IN 1998 AS A RESULT OF HEART FAILURE. SINCE THE DEATH OF GEN. ABACHA AND THE CONSEQUENT DISSOLUTION OF HIS CABINET THE NEW GOVERNMENT OF CHIEF OBASANJO HAS TURNED AGAINST MY FAMILY. AT FIRST WE THOUGHT IT WAS A NORMAL INTERROGATION, AS MY FATHER SHOULD KNOW ABOUT SOME CONFIDENTIAL DEALINGS OF HIS BOSS LATE GEN. SANI ABACHA OR HARASSMENT FROM ENEMIES HE MADE WHILE IN GOVERNMENT BUT I WAS PROVED VERY WRONG. MY HUSBANDIS NOW BEING DETAINED AT THE KUJE PRISONS ABUJA FOR DOING NOTHING OTHER THAN SERVING HIS FATHER LAND, ALL OUR ACCOUNTS AT HOME AND ABROAD KNOWN TO THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN FROZEN TO FRUSTRATE US. IT HAS NOW DAWNED ON US THAT WE HAVE A VERY SERIOUS BATTLE WITH PRESIDENT OBASANJO’S GOVERNMENT SINCE HE BELIEVES THAT MY HUSBAND WAS THE PERSON WHO ROPED HIM INTO PRISON FOR A PHANTOM COUP CHARGE, AS HE NOW WANTS TO GET BACK AT US. MY HUSBAND’S CLOSEST ASSOCIATES HAVE BETRAYED AND DESERTED US AND WE NO LONGER TRUST ANYONE OF THEM. THEREFORE, I AM REQUESTING FOR YOUR URGENT ASSISTANCE TO HELP MY FAMILY. RECENTLY, HE CONFIDED IN ME ABOUT A SECRET DEPOSIT OF US$25,000,000.00 (TWENTY FIVE MILLION, UNITED STATES DOLLARS), WHICH HE MADE VIA DIPLOMATIC COURIER SERVICES TO A SECURITY COMPANY BASED IN ABROAD AND PLACED ON HOLD. BECAUSE OF LACK OF TRUST ON FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES MY HUSBAND HAS MANDATED ME TO OFFER 20% OF THE FUND TO YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE AT THIS HOUR OF NEED. ALL YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DO IS COLLECT THE DEPOSIT DOCUMENTS FROM ME TO ENABLE YOU COLLECT THE TRUNK BOXES OF MONEY ON OUR BEHALF. MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS IN SERIOUS FINANCIAL DISTRESS AND THIS IS THE ONLY HOPE FOR US AS ALL OUR PASSPORTS AND TRAVELING DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN SEIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT, HAVE IT IN MIND THAT THERE IS NO RISK INVOLVED IN THIS ASSISTANCE AS ONLY , MY HUSBAND AND I KNOW ABOUT THIS. OUR OWN SHARE IS TO BE LEFT IN YOUR CARE UNTIL ONE OF US IS ABLE TO FIND HIS WAY OUT TO OPEN NEW ACCOUNTS. I WILL SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE THROUGH MY PRIVATE EMAIL: fatigwarzo@techemail.com. THIS SUBJECT IS HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL AND THEREFORE SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH. INCLUDE YOUR PERSONAL TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBERS FOR EASY COMMUNICATION. WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN BE TRUSTED AND YOU WOULD NOT DISAPPOINT US. BEST REGARDS, HAJIA FATI GWARZO To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Oct 16 13:25:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9AE37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kumr.lns.com (kumr.lns.com [63.198.122.138]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10E243EBE for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:25:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pozar@kumr.lns.com) Received: (from pozar@localhost) by kumr.lns.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) id g9GKPSK66709; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pozar) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:25:28 -0700 From: Tim Pozar To: Eric van Gyzen Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What programs need linprocfs: Message-ID: <20021016132528.B60757@lns.com> References: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <200210151336.22035.vangyzen@stat.duke.edu>; from vangyzen@stat.duke.edu on Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 01:36:22PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 01:36:22PM -0400, Eric van Gyzen wrote: > I'm trying to decide if linprocfs is really necessary on my systems. > Which programs need it? IIRC, StarOffice /setup/ needs it, but does > the program itself need it? Would it be beneficial to keep a list of > well-known, popular programs that need it, especially the ones in the > ports system? VMWware needs it. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Oct 16 18:44:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E66F37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com [64.128.185.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B70D43E88 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (8.12.6/8.11.5) id g9H1iMLL051711 for emulation@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:44:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from ip-24.internal (ip-34.internal [192.168.2.34]) by hq.dyns.cx (8.12.6/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id g9H1iJ5u051699 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:44:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from hq.dyns.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip-24.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9H1ii1f090978 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:44:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Message-ID: <3DAE160C.2070905@hq.dyns.cx> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:44:44 -0400 From: wolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: vmware2 and SIMD instructions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anyway to prevent the vmware2 from detecting SIMD capabilities on a processor? maybe have it lie to the guest OS about the processer installed? -- Michael Joyner FreeBSD System Administrator http://manhattan.hq.dyns.cx/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Wed Oct 16 19:42:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808BA37B401 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com [64.128.185.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2FD43E42 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (8.12.6/8.11.5) id g9H2flI8054288; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:41:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from ip-24.internal (ip-34.internal [192.168.2.34]) by hq.dyns.cx (8.12.6/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id g9H2et5u054249; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:40:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from hq.dyns.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip-24.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9H28A1f091087; Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:08:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Message-ID: <3DAE1B8A.9070209@hq.dyns.cx> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:08:10 -0400 From: wolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Q , emulation Subject: Re: vmware2 and SIMD instructions References: <3DAE160C.2070905@hq.dyns.cx> <3DAE18CA.9020609@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well cat /compat/linux/proc/cpuinfo doesn't show simd. :) whenever a guest os tries to enable SIMD, it crashes the guest os. This makes vmware2 on a modern processer usesless for anything but an operating system that is *not* simd aware, eg, no w2k, xp, newer linux, newer *bsd, etc. There is some stuff in ports/emulators/vmware2/work/vmware-distrib/vmmon-only/linux/hostif.c for cpuid, trying to figure out how to badly hack it now.... to see if a) it trashes my system (host), b) causes my kernel to panick, c) freaks vmware out, d) is ignored, or least likely e) causes simd instructions to be not-reported. Seems like something or other could be masked in there to hide that one capability P.S. please use reply-all when replying, your post didn't make it to the list. Q wrote: > As a guess, without trying it. I would suspect that you needed to trick > vmware2 into thinking the host processor doesn't support it. The guest > OS should then see the same capabilities that vmware2 thinks it is being > hosted on. > > There is probably something in the linux "/proc" that vmware uses to > report the cpu capabilities. If you hack the linux emulation to exclude > simd from that list then it might work. > > Why do you need to exclude it anyway? > > Seeya...Q > > wolf wrote: > >> Is there anyway to prevent the vmware2 from detecting SIMD capabilities >> on a processor? maybe have it lie to the guest OS about the processer >> installed? >> > > -- Michael Joyner FreeBSD System Administrator http://manhattan.hq.dyns.cx/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Oct 17 11: 6: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C50437B404 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com [64.128.185.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E640943E6A for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl-64-128-185-9.telocity.com (8.12.6/8.11.5) id g9HI5SOX094446 for emulation@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:05:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from ip-24.internal (ip-34.internal [192.168.2.34]) by hq.dyns.cx (8.12.6/8.11.5av) with ESMTP id g9HI5L5u094438 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:05:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Received: from hq.dyns.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ip-24.internal (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9HI5o1f094264 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:05:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mjoyner2@hq.dyns.cx) Message-ID: <3DAEFBFE.7020800@hq.dyns.cx> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:05:50 -0400 From: wolf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020508 Netscape6/6.2.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: emulation Subject: Re: vmware2 and SIMD instructions References: <3DAE160C.2070905@hq.dyns.cx> <3DAE18CA.9020609@yahoo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, after some research last night, there is apparantly no way to trap cpuid calls. :( Anyone out there know anyway to trap the simd enabling instruction in vmware? Q wrote: > As a guess, without trying it. I would suspect that you needed to trick > vmware2 into thinking the host processor doesn't support it. The guest > OS should then see the same capabilities that vmware2 thinks it is being > hosted on. > > There is probably something in the linux "/proc" that vmware uses to > report the cpu capabilities. If you hack the linux emulation to exclude > simd from that list then it might work. > > Why do you need to exclude it anyway? > > Seeya...Q > > wolf wrote: > >> Is there anyway to prevent the vmware2 from detecting SIMD capabilities >> on a processor? maybe have it lie to the guest OS about the processer >> installed? >> > > -- Michael Joyner FreeBSD System Administrator http://manhattan.hq.dyns.cx/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message