From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 0:41:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5578D37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from yahoo.com (ACAC6D4C.ipt.aol.com [172.172.109.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D80443E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:41:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ebay0@op.pl) Reply-To: ebay0@op.pl From: ebay0@op.pl To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Question from eBay Member. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:41:57 -0900 Message-Id: <20021215084147.8D80443E4A@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 0:42: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0BF37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:42:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C6E6043E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:41:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 43299 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2002 08:41:58 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:41:58 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: Andreas Klemm Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restoring superblock backup? In-Reply-To: <20021214125450.GA97486@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:28:00PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > > I've successfully repaired a fs with the superblock backup at 32. Now how > > do I copy that backup to the default superblock location? fsck_ffs does > > NOT automatically do this. > > It does. With fsck -b 32 you use the alternate super block to repair > the filesystem just in case the superblock in at the usual place is > damaged. After that the filesystem is completely repaired ... > Of course the previously damages superblock ... After the fs has been repaired, the alternate sb is not copied to the default sb (currently). -Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 0:45:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA57937B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from grsu.by (grsu.by [194.158.202.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 210B343E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@grsu.by) Received: (qmail 39703 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2002 08:42:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO grsu.by) (grog@195.50.13.200) by grsu.by with SMTP; 15 Dec 2002 08:42:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3DFB9DB0.1020708@grsu.by> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:08:00 +0200 From: Yury Tarasievich User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020829 X-Accept-Language: be, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Restoring superblock backup? References: <20021214125450.GA97486@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andreas Klemm wrote: >On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:28:00PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > > >>I've successfully repaired a fs with the superblock backup at 32. Now how >>do I copy that backup to the default superblock location? fsck_ffs does >>NOT automatically do this. >> >> > >It does. With fsck -b 32 you use the alternate super block to repair >the filesystem just in case the superblock in at the usual place is >damaged. After that the filesystem is completely repaired ... >Of course the previously damages superblock ... > >fsck does the same things only that you choosed the first copy >of the superblock, that is always on block 32. The next copy >depends on the size and geometry of the filesystem and is not >so easy predictable like the "32" which is always present .... > > If FS boundaries are right, one can always try newfs -N, then fsck with -b. I tried this once and succeeded using superblock copy being really more distant from FS start. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 0:50:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A3137B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD51743EC2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 43326 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2002 08:50:35 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:50:35 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: Michael Ranner Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk In-Reply-To: <200212141624.46162.mranner@inode.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Michael Ranner wrote: > Hi there! > > I have implemented the setattr(), lsetattr() and fsetattr() syscalls for > 4.7 and 5.0. You can review my code on http://www.ranner.jawa.at/freebsd.php. > > Comments and suggestions are welcome. I don't mean to be rude but I doubt the utility of this whole plan. dump/restore are done on disk devices which are at least an order of magnitude slower than a syscall boundary crossing. Going from 4 syscalls to 1 can't make a bit of difference in restore(8) performance. So why is this faster? Something is likely slowing namei() down. However, this should be fixed by improving namei() or whichever subsystem is slowing restore down. Adding new syscalls is not the right answer. -Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 1:10:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB0C37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A4B43EA9 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBF9A9qd092488 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:10:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with UUCP id gBF9A8BK092487; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:10:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: from titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (localhost.klemm.apsfilter.org [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBF95vMR015273; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:06:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by titan.klemm.apsfilter.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBF95s1f015272; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:05:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:05:54 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Nate Lawson Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restoring superblock backup? Message-ID: <20021215090554.GA15162@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> References: <20021214125450.GA97486@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE SMP X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:41:58AM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > After the fs has been repaired, the alternate sb is not copied to the > default sb (currently). This doesn't sound valid. It would mean, if your suberblock has crashed and you use the alternate, then every subsequent fsck run would fail and need manual operation to use the alternate superblock. -- Andreas Klemm /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ http://www.64bits.de < Powered by FreeBSD > http://www.apsfilter.org/ \ www.FreeBSD.org / http://people.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 1:12:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E5337B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3376A43EF1 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:12:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBF9CEJe049291; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:12:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nate Lawson Cc: Michael Ranner , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk From: phk@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2002 00:50:35 PST." Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:12:14 +0100 Message-ID: <49290.1039943534@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Nate Lawson wri tes: >On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Michael Ranner wrote: >> Hi there! >> >> I have implemented the setattr(), lsetattr() and fsetattr() syscalls for >> 4.7 and 5.0. You can review my code on http://www.ranner.jawa.at/freebsd.php. >> >> Comments and suggestions are welcome. > >I don't mean to be rude but I doubt the utility of this whole >plan. dump/restore are done on disk devices which are at least an order >of magnitude slower than a syscall boundary crossing. Going from 4 >syscalls to 1 can't make a bit of difference in restore(8) performance. You are wrong about restore: restore is done on a mounted filesystem. >So why is this faster? Something is likely slowing namei() down. Because 1 syscall and 2 namei calls are faster than 4 syscalls and four namei calls. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 1:14:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7554637B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF25E43E4A for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 43407 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2002 09:14:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 01:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: Yury Tarasievich Cc: freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: Restoring superblock backup? In-Reply-To: <3DFB9DB0.1020708@grsu.by> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Yury Tarasievich wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 02:28:00PM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > >>I've successfully repaired a fs with the superblock backup at 32. Now how > >>do I copy that backup to the default superblock location? fsck_ffs does > >>NOT automatically do this. > > If FS boundaries are right, one can always try newfs -N, then fsck with -b. > I tried this once and succeeded using superblock copy being really more > distant from FS start. I appreciate the help but you're both answering the wrong question. Go re-read my question above again. The current workaround (as given by mckusick@) is: --- > It used to be that when you ran with an alternate superblock, the > last question asked by fsck is whether you wish to update the > standard superblock. Answering yes would do that update for you. > As it appears that that feature got dropped, you can do the copy > manually using: > > dd if= skip=32 of= seek=16 bs=512 count=16 --- -Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 5:56:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D93F37B404 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 05:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.inode.at (goliath.inode.at [195.58.161.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE7643EC2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 05:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mranner@inode.at) Received: from line-c-209.adsl-dynamic.inode.at ([62.99.151.209] helo=dwarf.jawa.at) by smtp.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 18NZFw-0004kU-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:56:32 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Michael Ranner To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:56:25 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200212141624.46162.mranner@inode.at> In-Reply-To: <200212141624.46162.mranner@inode.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200212151455.35023.mranner@inode.at> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Am Samstag, 14. Dezember 2002 16:24 schrieb Michael Ranner: > Hi there! > > I have implemented the setattr(), lsetattr() and fsetattr() syscalls for > 4.7 and 5.0. You can review my code on > http://www.ranner.jawa.at/freebsd.php. > In between I have modfied 5.0 restore to use setattr(). Because of the new UFS2 birth time attribute, I have to call utimes() before setattr(). Struct stat has no member for the file birth time. Any suggestions to improve setattr() in respect of the new UFS2. The systime of 5.0 restore decreases around 9%. from man utimes For filesystems that support file birth (creation) times (such as UFS2) the birth time will be set to the value of the second element if the second element is older than the currently set birth time. To set both a birth time and a modification time, two calls are required; the first to set the birth time and the second to set the (presumably newer) modification time. Ideally a new system call will be added that allows the setting of all three times at once. I'm also willing to implement the proposed new syscall, any suggestions for name and type of arguments (probably an array of struct timespec). The kernel code already supports an array with all three time stamps. 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I have a very weird problem. Time is running very fast on my computer (arround 2 minutes per second - every second two minutes have passed. Some time ago I had the same problem with some other computer who had special Packet Radio card in it (which FreeBSD has no support for), but this time nothing special is in computer. I am running FreeBSD 4.4, machine is old Pentium I/ AMD 133, with two network card and graphic card (this graphic card is hercules(old)/vga). Does anybody have an idea where problem could be? Andy ************************************************************************** * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Fandoms: E2:EA, SAABer, Trekkie, Earthie * * andy@kksonline.com * Sentinel, BH 90210, True's Trooper, * * andy@atechnet.dhs.org * Heller's Angel, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender * * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 ********************************************* * PGP key available * http://www.atechnet.dhs.org/~andy/ * ************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 10:10:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC22937B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp5.wanadoo.nl (smtp5.wanadoo.nl [194.134.35.176]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C1443EA9 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:10:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from virtus@wanadoo.nl) Received: from claustro (ledn-csl-4581.adsl.wanadoo.nl [212.129.197.129]) by smtp5.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BC1274582; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:10:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00d301c2a466$a8a6fa50$0200a8c0@claustro> From: "Douwe Kiela" To: "Aleksander Rozman - Andy" Cc: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021214231010.00aa7af8@pop3.kks.net> Subject: Re: Time problem...time is running very fast Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:20:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Update to 4.7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleksander Rozman - Andy" To: Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:14 PM Subject: Time problem...time is running very fast > > Hi ! > I have a very weird problem. Time is running very fast on my computer > (arround 2 minutes per second - every second two minutes have passed. Some > time ago I had the same problem with some other computer who had special > Packet Radio card in it (which FreeBSD has no support for), but this time > nothing special is in computer. I am running FreeBSD 4.4, machine is old > Pentium I/ AMD 133, with two network card and graphic card (this graphic > card is hercules(old)/vga). Does anybody have an idea where problem could be? > > Andy > > > ************************************************************************** > * Aleksander Rozman - Andy * Fandoms: E2:EA, SAABer, Trekkie, Earthie * > * andy@kksonline.com * Sentinel, BH 90210, True's Trooper, * > * andy@atechnet.dhs.org * Heller's Angel, Questie, Legacy, PO5, * > * Maribor, Slovenia (Europe) * Profiler, Buffy (Slayerete), Pretender * > * ICQ-UIC: 4911125 ********************************************* > * PGP key available * http://www.atechnet.dhs.org/~andy/ * > ************************************************************************** > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 10:17:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5D237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD2543ED1 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFIHJJe047814; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:17:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Aleksander Rozman - Andy Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Time problem...time is running very fast From: phk@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:14:06 +0100." <5.1.1.6.0.20021214231010.00aa7af8@pop3.kks.net> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:17:19 +0100 Message-ID: <47813.1039976239@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5.1.1.6.0.20021214231010.00aa7af8@pop3.kks.net>, Aleksander Rozman - Andy writes: > >Hi ! >I have a very weird problem. Time is running very fast on my computer >(arround 2 minutes per second - every second two minutes have passed. Some >time ago I had the same problem with some other computer who had special >Packet Radio card in it (which FreeBSD has no support for), but this time >nothing special is in computer. I am running FreeBSD 4.4, machine is old >Pentium I/ AMD 133, with two network card and graphic card (this graphic >card is hercules(old)/vga). Does anybody have an idea where problem could be? Can you mail me a dmesg from boot -v and "sysctl kern.timcounter" output ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 12: 9:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B9237B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27D5743EC2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:09:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 44793 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2002 20:09:52 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:09:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: Andreas Klemm Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Restoring superblock backup? In-Reply-To: <20021215090554.GA15162@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:41:58AM -0800, Nate Lawson wrote: > > After the fs has been repaired, the alternate sb is not copied to the > > default sb (currently). > > This doesn't sound valid. It would mean, if your suberblock has > crashed and you use the alternate, then every subsequent fsck > run would fail and need manual operation to use the alternate > superblock. This is indeed the current (bad) behavior, hence my original request for a workaround. I'm working on a patch. -Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 12:21:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C47137B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rootlabs.com (root.org [67.118.192.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CE9043EC2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rootlabs.com) Received: (qmail 44827 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Dec 2002 20:21:16 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) From: Nate Lawson To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk In-Reply-To: <49290.1039943534@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 phk@FreeBSD.ORG wrote: > Nate Lawson writes: > >I don't mean to be rude but I doubt the utility of this whole > >plan. dump/restore are done on disk devices which are at least an order > >of magnitude slower than a syscall boundary crossing. Going from 4 > >syscalls to 1 can't make a bit of difference in restore(8) performance. > > You are wrong about restore: restore is done on a mounted filesystem. Heh, you took that too literally. I meant the IO is coming from a tape, disk, or other physical media device where latencies for a 32-64k xfer are usually on the order of 1-10 ms or more. > >So why is this faster? Something is likely slowing namei() down. > > Because 1 syscall and 2 namei calls are faster than 4 syscalls and > four namei calls. Which leaves us back at my previous point which is that something is wrong with caching if 4 namei calls (for the SAME name) are so much slower. A great task would be to examine/test namei(), identify why it's not cached correctly, and fix the underlying problem. The syscall boundary crossing is NOT significant here. -Nate "One hand for your own code, and one hand for the infrastructure". -- phk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 12:26:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD0837B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA43243EC5 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFKQlJe071696; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:26:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nate Lawson Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk From: phk@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2002 12:21:16 PST." Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 21:26:47 +0100 Message-ID: <71695.1039984007@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Nate Lawson wri tes: >> Because 1 syscall and 2 namei calls are faster than 4 syscalls and >> four namei calls. > >Which leaves us back at my previous point which is that something is wrong >with caching if 4 namei calls (for the SAME name) are so much slower. A >great task would be to examine/test namei(), identify why it's not cached >correctly, and fix the underlying problem. The syscall boundary crossing >is NOT significant here. When you restore a N files, it makes a difference if you need to do 4N syscalls and 4N namei's or just 1N syscalls and 2N nameis. Caching makes the difference smaller, but the fact remains that there is a difference. In particular as N climbs into the range of millions. Don't forget that restore uses (and has to!) paths relative to its root directory, each of the nameis can trivially contain a handful of component names. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 13: 1:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFC637B408 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from bear.orl.ru (bear.orl.ru [213.59.67.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A9243EB2 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:01:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rxm@mail.ru) Received: from odb ([213.59.67.37]) by bear.orl.ru (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id gBFKw6Z50727 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:58:06 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:58:06 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <200212152058.gBFKw6Z50727@bear.orl.ru> From: RxMax Laboratory To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Программирование и дизайн Reply-To: rxm@mail.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Вам нужна программа, аналогов которой еще не существует в компьютерном мире? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 13:11: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE5E37B401; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D0A43E4A; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBFLB5OM093762; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBFLB5WI093761; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212152111.gBFLB5WI093761@apollo.backplane.com> To: Nate Lawson Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk References: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG setattr() and friends do not exist anywhere outside of this proposal. I don't particularly like the idea of replacing existing functionality with a new non-standard system call. The speed issue alone is not enough to justify the change, nor is Kirk's new creation time field (besides I thought that field was not supposed to be changeable?). -- In regards to the implementation itself, I really don't like the idea of passing a stat structure as an argument. If we are going to have a 'general' setattr() system call it should be extensible. That is, something like this: struct fsattr { int token; union { char pad[32]; struct timeval tv; time_t t; etc.... } fsu; } struct fsattr attrs[] = { { SAT_MTIME, mtime}, { SAT_CTIME, ctime } }; setattr(path, attrs, nattrs); But it should not take a stat structure. We have enough problems with the stat structure changing as it is, IMHO. If we use an extensible structure we won't ever have to change the system call. This also brings up the possibility that we could integrate setattr-like functions into the MAC layer, which is already extensible, yes? -Matt Matthew Dillon :Heh, you took that too literally. I meant the IO is coming from a tape, :disk, or other physical media device where latencies for a 32-64k xfer are :usually on the order of 1-10 ms or more. : :> >So why is this faster? Something is likely slowing namei() down. :> :> Because 1 syscall and 2 namei calls are faster than 4 syscalls and :> four namei calls. : :Which leaves us back at my previous point which is that something is wrong :with caching if 4 namei calls (for the SAME name) are so much slower. A :great task would be to examine/test namei(), identify why it's not cached :correctly, and fix the underlying problem. The syscall boundary crossing :is NOT significant here. : :-Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 13:21: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C340C37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E43243ED4 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:21:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFLKpJe081556; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:20:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Nate Lawson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk From: phk@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:11:05 PST." <200212152111.gBFLB5WI093761@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 22:20:51 +0100 Message-ID: <81555.1039987251@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200212152111.gBFLB5WI093761@apollo.backplane.com>, Matthew Dillon w rites: > setattr() and friends do not exist anywhere outside of this proposal. > I don't particularly like the idea of replacing existing functionality > with a new non-standard system call. The speed issue alone is not enough > to justify the change, nor is Kirk's new creation time field (besides > I thought that field was not supposed to be changeable?). > > -- > > In regards to the implementation itself, I really don't like the idea > of passing a stat structure as an argument. If we are going to have > a 'general' setattr() system call it should be extensible. That is, > something like this: > > struct fsattr { > int token; > union { > char pad[32]; > struct timeval tv; > time_t t; > etc.... > } fsu; > } I don't really like the idea of inventing new oddball structures when we have perfectly good ones already. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 14:24:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF38B37B404; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEC443EA9; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBFMOVOM098469; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBFMOVAG098468; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212152224.gBFMOVAG098468@apollo.backplane.com> To: Nate Lawson , phk@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk References: <200212152111.gBFLB5WI093761@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And, I will also add, in regards to using the stat structure for setattr(), that it creates a serious portability problem as well as a serious forward and reverse compatibility problem. Which fields in the stat structure are going to be ignored by the syscall and which are not? You don't know and there is no way to tell. What happens when some of the modifying operations are allowed and some aren't? There is no way to tell, there is no way to return an error indicating where the problem is. How do you tell setattr() not to modify certain fields? There is no way to do it other then to store special values in the stat structure. What happens to forward portability if the stat structure gets something you didn't know existed and you don't want to change the new field? There is no way to deal with it. In short, using the stat structure for something like this is a bad idea. The system call will wind up being one of those things that we constantly break from release to release as new things come up. If this is going to be done, it needs to be done properly, and while the stat structure may give us instant gratification it will only bite us in the ass down the line. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 15 14:33: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB84537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA91443EA9 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:33:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBFMWtJe094644; Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Nate Lawson , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: setattr() syscall as proposed by phk From: phk@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Dec 2002 14:24:31 PST." <200212152224.gBFMOVAG098468@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 23:32:55 +0100 Message-ID: <94643.1039991575@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200212152224.gBFMOVAG098468@apollo.backplane.com>, Matthew Dillon w rites: > And, I will also add, in regards to using the stat structure for > setattr(), that it creates a serious portability problem as well as > a serious forward and reverse compatibility problem. Which fields > in the stat structure are going to be ignored by the syscall and > which are not? You don't know and there is no way to tell. This email could have been avoided if you had examined the background information and/or the patch. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 1:10:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A61437B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from rigel.grass.st (rigel.grass.st [195.197.32.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8221043EC5 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 01:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsdhack@rigel.grass.st) Received: (from bsdhack@localhost) by rigel.grass.st (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA62346 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:10:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from bsdhack) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:10:42 +0200 From: mika ruohotie To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: net.inet.ip.dummynet.hash_size Message-ID: <20021216111042.A61440@rigel.grass.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hello, ipfw man page says: buckets hash-table-size Specifies the size of the hash table used for storing the various queues. Default value is 64 controlled by the sysctl(8) variable net.inet.ip.dummynet.hash_size, allowed range is 16 to 1024. and my question is if it's possible to somehow go beyond 1024, or if doing so wouldnt be adviced. (ie, performance would be poor or so) i'd need to experiment shaping with "large" supernets giving each single ip addresses a designated bandwidth. (i'm using gigabit, if someone wonders if i really need that many, and the answer is "yes") mickey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 10:20:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A626237B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (3jane.math.ualberta.ca [129.128.206.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D032943EDA for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 10:20:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bvowk@math.ualberta.ca) Received: from 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (localhost.math.ualberta.ca [127.0.0.1]) by 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBGIKex5042799 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:20:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from bvowk@math.ualberta.ca) Received: from localhost (bvowk@localhost) by 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id gBGIKeF2042796 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:20:40 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: 3jane.math.ualberta.ca: bvowk owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:20:40 -0700 (MST) From: Barkley Vowk To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: soft updates In-Reply-To: <3DF7A738.70109@mitre.org> Message-ID: <20021216111540.S42005-100000@3jane.math.ualberta.ca> References: <20021211154834.46558.qmail@web41201.mail.yahoo.com> <3DF7A738.70109@mitre.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've never had a single issue with my large filesystems either. They've been running for 18 months or so now, and survived power failures, bad disks, and a constant pounding. You are more likely to die from one of your junior admins dd'ing with reckless cluelessness than softupdates. /dev/twed0s1e 397G 217G 148G 59% /home /dev/twed0s1e 388G 233G 125G 65% /disk /dev/twed0e 148G 36G 100G 27% /disk ----------------------------------------------------------- Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta Math Sciences Department - Barkley.Vowk@math.ualberta.ca Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and may not reflect the opinions of others or reality. On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Jason Andresen wrote: > Gary Thorpe wrote: > > > The only logging/journaling file system available for *BSD that I am > > aware of is LFS, which I don't think is either stable or fast. I don't > > know how big a filesystem FFS+softdeps will support, but soft updates > > is not completly stable although I think it can be used with reasonable > > assurance it won't explode (I have). FFS on FreeBSD can support +300GB > > file systems I think, but whether soft updates will work correctly (or > > at least as correctly as it does in smaller file systems) at these > > sizes is unknown to me. > > I've been using softupdates on a 361GB filesystem for some time now. > Although some hardware failures gave vinum fits, softupdates has never > caused me a problem: > /dev/vinum/media 361G 288G 45G 87% /media > > -- > \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org > |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer > _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 13:59:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49B837B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from gator.darkhorse.com (mail.darkhorse.com [209.95.33.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C37943EDC; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@dhmail.net) Received: from [207.236.15.9] (account ) by gator.darkhorse.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 9513340; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:58:55 -0800 From: "Matt Dillon" Subject: I want to apologize To: current@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:58:55 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey dudes, I want to apologize for being a total *asshole* wrt the ipfw thingie. Sorry. I know my patch was shit anyway, and that ipfw blows dead goats when compared to ipf, but even with that in mind, I had to pull a deraadt, sorry. I'm so sorry. I mean, I've had my commit bit taken away many times already, and yet I'm stupid enough to keep with the same attitude. Damn, Yours, Matthew. _____________________________ For the best comics, toys, movies, and more, please visit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 14:27: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4937B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8472C43EC2; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBGMR6OM081487; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBGMR6H0081486; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212162227.gBGMR6H0081486@apollo.backplane.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'I want to apologize' Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ha ha. -Matt Matthew Dillon :From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 16 14:00:03 2002 :... :Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) : by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP : id D49B837B401; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:59:20 -0800 (PST) :Received: from gator.darkhorse.com (mail.darkhorse.com [209.95.33.140]) : by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP : id 5C37943EDC; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:59:20 -0800 (PST) : (envelope-from dillon@dhmail.net) :Received: from [207.236.15.9] (account ) : by gator.darkhorse.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) : with HTTP id 9513340; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:58:55 -0800 :From: "Matt Dillon" :Subject: I want to apologize :To: current@FreeBSD.ORG :Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG :X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 :Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 13:58:55 -0800 :Message-ID: :MIME-Version: 1.0 :Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" :Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit :Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG :List-ID: :List-Archive: (Web Archive) :List-Help: (List Instructions) :List-Subscribe: :List-Unsubscribe: :X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Precedence: bulk : :Hey dudes, I want to apologize for being a total *asshole* :wrt the ipfw thingie. Sorry. I know my patch was shit :anyway, and that ipfw blows dead goats when compared to :ipf, but even with that in mind, I had to pull a deraadt, :sorry. I'm so sorry. I mean, I've had my commit bit taken :away many times already, and yet I'm stupid enough to keep :with the same attitude. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 19:27:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB52E37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from priv-edtnes62.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA86743EC2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:27:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@bel.bc.ca) Received: from dbs ([216.232.24.155]) by priv-edtnes62.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20021217032747.YVGV1598.priv-edtnes62.telusplanet.net@dbs> for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:27:47 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c2a57c$4587a340$9b18e8d8@slugabed.org> From: "Sean Hamilton" To: Subject: burncd raw mode Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 19:27:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, I have a 2352-byte block mode1 CD image, and wish to burn this with burncd. I know I can use bin2iso or bchunk to decode it, but I'd rather keep the block metadata intact from the file itself instead of having the burner/driver(?) reconstruct it. I assembled a small stack of coasters by trying a few combinations of -d, 'raw', etc, to no avail. The best I got was from raw, a track which needed to be read with 2352 byte blocks, so it wasn't being interpreted as metadata. I presume if I were to dd this entire disc into a file, I would have a verbatim copy of my original, albeit less fault tolerant. Can this be done with burncd? How does the drive/driver know to interpret the remaining 304 bytes as metadata? Is it possible to extract the full 2352 byte blocks from a track which is advertised as only 2048, ie a typical data track? There are a few Windows apps for doing exactly this. thanks, sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 20:37:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBB737B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF1843ED1 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.4/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBH4bYiX054097; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:07:36 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) X-Authentication-Warning: cain.gsoft.com.au: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] claimed to be [127.0.0.1] Subject: Re: burncd raw mode From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Sean Hamilton Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1040099852.23102.36.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.0 Date: 17 Dec 2002 15:07:33 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.3 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 13:57, Sean Hamilton wrote: > I have a 2352-byte block mode1 CD image, and wish to burn this with burncd. > I know I can use bin2iso or bchunk to decode it, but I'd rather keep the > block metadata intact from the file itself instead of having the > burner/driver(?) reconstruct it. Why? Unless it's copy protected it won't matter since that info is error checking which has to be the same in either case.. > to be read with 2352 byte blocks, so it wasn't being interpreted as > metadata. I presume if I were to dd this entire disc into a file, I would > have a verbatim copy of my original, albeit less fault tolerant. > > Can this be done with burncd? Don't think so. cdrdao might be able to do it, but I'm not sure of the format it uses. It has a seperate cue file usually, it doesn't read info from the data file. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 22:18: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E05C37B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (xorpc.icir.org [192.150.187.68]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BFF43EE1 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org) Received: from xorpc.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBH6HpTO099488; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo@xorpc.icir.org) Received: (from rizzo@localhost) by xorpc.icir.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id gBH6Hofe099487; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rizzo) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:17:50 -0800 From: Luigi Rizzo To: mika ruohotie Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: net.inet.ip.dummynet.hash_size Message-ID: <20021216221750.B99444@xorpc.icir.org> References: <20021216111042.A61440@rigel.grass.st> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021216111042.A61440@rigel.grass.st>; from bsdhack@aeon.st on Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:10:42AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:10:42AM +0200, mika ruohotie wrote: > > hello, > > ipfw man page says: > > buckets hash-table-size > Specifies the size of the hash table used for storing the various > queues. Default value is 64 controlled by the sysctl(8) variable > net.inet.ip.dummynet.hash_size, allowed range is 16 to 1024. > > and my question is if it's possible to somehow go beyond 1024, or if > doing so wouldnt be adviced. (ie, performance would be poor or so) i think there was some recent commit which raises the limit above 1024 -- mind you, the number of buckets is not the upper bound for the number of flows. cheers luigi > i'd need to experiment shaping with "large" supernets giving each > single ip addresses a designated bandwidth. (i'm using gigabit, if > someone wonders if i really need that many, and the answer is "yes") > > > mickey > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Dec 16 23:31:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878E437B401 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (mta05-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607FC43EB2 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk ([62.254.149.90]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021217073131.FVQJ900.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:31:31 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20021217071753.02d1c4f8@popserver.sfu.ca> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:31:28 +0000 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Colin Percival Subject: libobjc wierdness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Every time I build 4.7-RELEASE the three files /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/NXConstStr.o /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/Object.o /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/lib/libobjc/Protocol.o (which along with lots of other files are packed into libobjc.a) end up varying wildly. Every other variability in the build results I can track down -- the fortune files are randomized (bin/45817), games/phantasia/void is randomized (and no longer exists in -CURRENT), and everything else is identifiable user, host, date, or time stamps -- but those three files have significant binary portions which vary. Incidentally, the sizes of those files don't vary. Can anyone help me understand what is going on here? Colin Percival To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 0:38:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3265637B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3506243EA9 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.5/8.12.6) id gBH8d600075537; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:39:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200212170839.gBH8d600075537@spider.deepcore.dk> Subject: Re: burncd raw mode In-Reply-To: <001701c2a57c$4587a340$9b18e8d8@slugabed.org> To: Sean Hamilton Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:39:06 +0100 (CET) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Sean Hamilton wrote: > Greetings, > > I have a 2352-byte block mode1 CD image, and wish to burn this with burncd. > I know I can use bin2iso or bchunk to decode it, but I'd rather keep the > block metadata intact from the file itself instead of having the > burner/driver(?) reconstruct it. > > I assembled a small stack of coasters by trying a few combinations of -d, > 'raw', etc, to no avail. The best I got was from raw, a track which needed > to be read with 2352 byte blocks, so it wasn't being interpreted as > metadata. I presume if I were to dd this entire disc into a file, I would > have a verbatim copy of my original, albeit less fault tolerant. > > Can this be done with burncd? Not as is, but it could be done, however there is absolutly no point in doing it, *unless* its to make an exact copy of a CD that is copyprotected in one of the usual ways. So, assuming you have a legit image, you simply rip out the 2048 bytes of real data from each 2352 byte block in that file, and burn it as a normal data CD, bingo.. > How does the drive/driver know to interpret the remaining 304 bytes as > metadata? Thats a long explanation, its checksumming etc etc. > Is it possible to extract the full 2352 byte blocks from a track which is > advertised as only 2048, ie a typical data track? There are a few Windows > apps for doing exactly this. Sure it is, but why would you need to ? -Sшren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 0:53:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86AD837B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8FB43ED4 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:53:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBH8qmlv085978; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBH8qmDo085977; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:52:48 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Soeren Schmidt Cc: Sean Hamilton , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burncd raw mode Message-ID: <20021217085248.GB85832@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <001701c2a57c$4587a340$9b18e8d8@slugabed.org> <200212170839.gBH8d600075537@spider.deepcore.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WhfpMioaduB5tiZL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212170839.gBH8d600075537@spider.deepcore.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 09:39:06AM +0100, Soeren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Sean Hamilton wrote: > > I have a 2352-byte block mode1 CD image, and wish to burn this with bur= ncd. > > I know I can use bin2iso or bchunk to decode it, but I'd rather keep the > > block metadata intact from the file itself instead of having the > > burner/driver(?) reconstruct it. > >=20 > > I assembled a small stack of coasters by trying a few combinations of -= d, > > 'raw', etc, to no avail. The best I got was from raw, a track which nee= ded > > to be read with 2352 byte blocks, so it wasn't being interpreted as > > metadata. I presume if I were to dd this entire disc into a file, I wou= ld > > have a verbatim copy of my original, albeit less fault tolerant. > >=20 > > Can this be done with burncd? >=20 > Not as is, but it could be done, however there is absolutly no point > in doing it, *unless* its to make an exact copy of a CD that is > copyprotected in one of the usual ways. OK, but what if it is? Tools, not policy? I got interested in this the other day also, seeing as there were windows tools to extract the 'subchannel data' (that's the same, isn't it?) and I couldn't find any tool to do the same on FreeBSD. I can understand if you don't want to spend any of your limited time on this, but the fact that it may be used in illegal ways should make no difference in the implementation of this feature... > So, assuming you have a legit image, you simply rip out the 2048 bytes > of real data from each 2352 byte block in that file, and burn it as > a normal data CD, bingo.. >=20 > > How does the drive/driver know to interpret the remaining 304 bytes as > > metadata? >=20 > Thats a long explanation, its checksumming etc etc. Actually, is it the driver that constructs this metadata, or mkisofs, or ..= . ? > > Is it possible to extract the full 2352 byte blocks from a track which = is > > advertised as only 2048, ie a typical data track? There are a few Windo= ws > > apps for doing exactly this. >=20 > Sure it is, but why would you need to ? For making a backup of my PSX CDs to play with an emulator? (perfectly legal for me to do). Windows apps can do this. --Stijn --=20 The sexual urge of the camel is stranger than anyone thinks. He's lived for years on the desert, and tried to seduce the Sphinx. But the Sphinxs center of pleasure lies buried deep in the Nile, which accounts for the hump on the camel and the Sphinxs inscrutable smile. -- Frantic Fran, http://www.franticfran.com/jokes.htm --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9/uXgY3r/tLQmfWcRAtmZAKCLZZSrH4OFtYm3cubWB2FpL7DRvgCfZLvJ H4sjZAIP8Vx3UAnU1yFNUEc= =ogSk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WhfpMioaduB5tiZL-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 1:10:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB1337B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 01:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from spider.deepcore.dk (cpe.atm2-0-56339.0x50c6aa0a.abnxx2.customer.tele.dk [80.198.170.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730A843ED8 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 01:10:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@spider.deepcore.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by spider.deepcore.dk (8.12.5/8.12.6) id gBH9AxIb080616; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:10:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soeren Schmidt Message-Id: <200212170910.gBH9AxIb080616@spider.deepcore.dk> Subject: Re: burncd raw mode In-Reply-To: <20021217085248.GB85832@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> To: Stijn Hoop Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:10:59 +0100 (CET) Cc: Sean Hamilton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL98b (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Stijn Hoop wrote: > > Not as is, but it could be done, however there is absolutly no point > > in doing it, *unless* its to make an exact copy of a CD that is > > copyprotected in one of the usual ways. > > OK, but what if it is? Tools, not policy? I didn't put any policy in there you just did :) I have some local hacks that I've used for testing cuesheets, but nothing thats really usefull.. > > Thats a long explanation, its checksumming etc etc. > > Actually, is it the driver that constructs this metadata, or mkisofs, or ... ? The burner construct the metadata in case of a mode1 data disc, so that checksumming etc is done the right way, and thats the reason why doing it yourself is a vaste of time unless you want to but "special" data in there. > For making a backup of my PSX CDs to play with an emulator? (perfectly legal > for me to do). Windows apps can do this. Rip the cd as 2352 bytes, rip out the 2048 you need and use the XAmode1 datatype to burncd IIRC, and you need a bootchip :) -Sшren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 9:51:11 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732DC37B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gator.darkhorse.com (mail.darkhorse.com [209.95.33.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1971343EC5; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:51:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@dhmail.net) Received: from [207.236.15.9] (account ) by gator.darkhorse.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 9530154; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:50:25 -0800 From: "Matt Dillon" Subject: I'm leaving the project To: current@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:50:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share my views on how to deal with other people. I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants it, for that matter. Thank you, Matthew _____________________________ For the best comics, toys, movies, and more, please visit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 10:59:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D3737B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4479F43ED8; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.techno.pagans (12-224-208-117.client.attbi.com [12.224.208.117]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A429E10131; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:59:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.techno.pagans (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A503AA98; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:56:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:56:19 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Dillon Cc: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Dillon wrote: > Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and > flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share > my views on how to deal with other people. > > I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants > it, for that matter. Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 11: 9:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DC337B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from clover.kientzle.com (user-112uh9a.biz.mindspring.com [66.47.69.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E6543EA9 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Received: from acm.org (c43 [66.47.69.43]) by clover.kientzle.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBHJ8FE84195; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kientzle@acm.org) Message-ID: <3DFF761F.30405@acm.org> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:08:15 -0800 From: Tim Kientzle Reply-To: kientzle@acm.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011206 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soeren Schmidt Cc: Sean Hamilton , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burncd raw mode References: <200212170839.gBH8d600075537@spider.deepcore.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sean Hamilton wrote: >>How does the drive/driver know to interpret the remaining 304 bytes as >>metadata? "Principles of Digital Audio", Ken Pohlmann (McGraw Hill, 1995) has pretty complete details on CD-DA encoding, including subcode encoding, error correction, etc. Enjoy! Tim Kientzle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 11:39:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE0C37B404; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F46443EC2; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:39:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBHJdVOM086955; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBHJdVFR086954; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:39:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> To: Darren Pilgrim Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project References: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : :Matt Dillon wrote: :> Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and :> flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share :> my views on how to deal with other people. :> :> I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants :> it, for that matter. : :Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? Probably because I lambast him mercilessly for being such a whimp. It's kinda sad, actually. He's probably not making any friends with the people running the blind proxies he abuses to post, either. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 11:51: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA1F37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.darq.net (phear.darq.net [213.253.1.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E30843EC2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:51:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaneda@darq.net) Received: (qmail 11434 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Dec 2002 19:50:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:50:54 +0000 From: Richard Airlie To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: joystick driver doesn't allow for anything but joy0 Message-ID: <20021217195054.C10658@phear.darq.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-Url: http://www.darq.net/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, Recently I have spent some time trying to get my 3-axis 4 button joystick working in FreeBSD. My joystick is a standard analogue stick, connected to the game port (ISA 0x201). I came across a few problems with this configuration and had to make some changes to get things to work (patch attached). Essentially I'm looking for any comments on these changes.. is this a reasonable/useful fix? Briefly, the two stumbling blocks I encountered: 1) It is not possible to have both joy0 and joy1 at port IO_GAME, because joy_attach() in joy.c calls bus_alloc_resource with RF_ACTIVE. If I change this to RF_ACTIVE|RF_SHAREABLE then both joy0 and joy1 can share the resource. 2) In joy_attach(), the call to make_dev always uses 0 as the minor device number, meaning that only joy0 ever gets attached. The other thing I changed was to wait for the 4 bits corresponding to the 4 joystick axes to go low before starting timing them.. this seemed to be necessary for me, and I can explain why if anyone is interested. This patch applies to 4.7-STABLE, though the code in current looks much the same. I have no previous experience with the FreeBSD kernel.. so it would be useful to know if these changes are not good :) regards, Richard. --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="joy.c_patch" --- usr/src/sys/isa/joy.c Tue Dec 17 10:50:50 2002 +++ /home/kaneda/joy_fix.c Tue Dec 17 10:52:44 2002 @@ -134,13 +134,13 @@ struct resource *res; struct joy_softc *joy = device_get_softc(dev); - res = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, &rid, 0, ~0, 1, RF_ACTIVE); + res = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, &rid, 0, ~0, 1, RF_ACTIVE|RF_SHAREABLE); if (res == NULL) return ENXIO; joy->bt = rman_get_bustag(res); joy->port = rman_get_bushandle(res); joy->timeout[0] = joy->timeout[1] = 0; - make_dev(&joy_cdevsw, 0, 0, 0, 0600, "joy%d", unit); + make_dev(&joy_cdevsw, unit, 0, 0, 0600, "joy%d", unit); return 0; } @@ -198,6 +198,12 @@ #else disable_intr (); #endif + nanotime(&t); + end.tv_sec = 0; + end.tv_nsec = joy->timeout[joypart(dev)] * 1000; + timespecadd(&end, &t); + for( ; timespeccmp(&t, &end, <) && (bus_space_read_1(bt, port, 0) & 0x0f); nanotime(&t) ); + bus_space_write_1 (bt, port, 0, 0xff); nanotime(&start); end.tv_sec = 0; --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 12:56: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3853137B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:56:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackbox.yayproductions.com (h-66-166-17-53.SNVACAID.covad.net [66.166.17.53]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FABE43EC5; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:56:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davek@saturn5.com) Received: from localhost (davek@localhost) by blackbox.yayproductions.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id gBHKtn146498; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from davek@saturn5.com) X-Authentication-Warning: blackbox.yayproductions.com: davek owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:55:49 -0800 (PST) From: David Nicholas Kayal X-X-Sender: davek@blackbox.yayproductions.com To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Darren Pilgrim , , Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project In-Reply-To: <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This type of thing caused the division of the BSD projects in the first place, and hurts the project over all and is the primary reason that Linux has such a better market position then BSD. I love FreeBSD. I dunno why. I just do. I'm no expert, but it sits right with me. It is a shame that due to people's socialization problems that such a great operating system is regulated to the backwaters of the OS oceans. I suggest some people realize that they have problems with dealing with people--we are not computers in that certain inputs cannot guarantee certain outputs--and perhaps seek therapy to improve their socialization skills. That and $1.10 might buy you a cup a coffee. Sincerely, David On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > : > :Matt Dillon wrote: > :> Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and > :> flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share > :> my views on how to deal with other people. > :> > :> I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants > :> it, for that matter. > : > :Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? > > Probably because I lambast him mercilessly for being such a whimp. It's > kinda sad, actually. He's probably not making any friends with the > people running the blind proxies he abuses to post, either. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 13: 2:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9BB37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ftp.translate.ru (ftp.translate.ru [195.131.4.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58C543EC2 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) Received: from lev (ip86-1.dialup.wplus.net [195.131.86.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by ftp.translate.ru (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBHL20tT057973 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:02:01 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:03:37 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov Organization: Home X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <45792625.20021218000337@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: dlinfo() from sunOS, _DYNAMIC from Linux: did we have something like this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, freebsd-hackers! How are you? Here is very good profiler (IMHO, better than `gcc -g' + `gprof'): FunctionCheck. But it need information about each module in program. It uses dlinfo() function on SunOS and _DYNAMIC variable on Linux to access all ELF symbol tables in loaded program. Did FreeBSD (4.x) have something like this? Lev Serebryakov /-----------------------------------------------\ | FIDONet: 2:5030/661.0 | | E-Mail: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru | | Page: http://lev.serebryakov.spb.ru/ | | ICQ UIN: 3670018 | | Phone: You know, if you have world nodelist | \===============================================/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 14:15: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A1C37B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from spork.pantherdragon.org (spork.pantherdragon.org [206.29.168.146]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A7843EC5; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmp@pantherdragon.org) Received: from sparx.techno.pagans (12-224-208-117.client.attbi.com [12.224.208.117]) by spork.pantherdragon.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A571005F; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pantherdragon.org (speck.techno.pagans [172.21.42.2]) by sparx.techno.pagans (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EA7AB61; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:14:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3DFFA1B9.8080704@pantherdragon.org> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:14:17 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project References: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :Matt Dillon wrote: > :> Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and > :> flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share > :> my views on how to deal with other people. > :> > :> I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants > :> it, for that matter. > : > :Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? > > Probably because I lambast him mercilessly for being such a whimp. It's > kinda sad, actually. He's probably not making any friends with the > people running the blind proxies he abuses to post, either. You know the person by name/alias, then? Who is it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 14:57:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C5237B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E66F43EA9; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBHMvMOM088021; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBHMvMKO088020; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:57:22 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212172257.gBHMvMKO088020@apollo.backplane.com> To: Darren Pilgrim Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project References: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> <3DFFA1B9.8080704@pantherdragon.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :You know the person by name/alias, then? Who is it? : I do not know who it is, he posts through anonymous proxies. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 15:59:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B5D37B406 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:59:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from natto.numachi.com (natto.numachi.com [198.175.254.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2298743EA9 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reichert@numachi.com) Received: (qmail 46704 invoked by uid 1001); 17 Dec 2002 23:59:11 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:59:11 -0500 From: Brian Reichert To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: 3COM PCI FaxModem with shared IRQ causes FBSD to freeze Message-ID: <20021217185911.G25585@numachi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The subject line is the same subject line as kern/28856 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/28856 The above PR refers to an issue, with a workaround, for 5.0-CURRENT circa July 2001. I have nearly the identical issue under 4.7-RELEASE. I see an additional symptom, however, under my setup. With a kernel config that looks like this: #device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 11 #device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 A dmesg looks like this: sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0xec00-0xec07 irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio2 sio2: type 16550A ... sio0: configured irq 11 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x10 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 11 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A Note the 'sio0: moving to sio2' line. That's the new symptom. If I try to access sio0, I don't probe a modem. If I try to access sio2, my machine wedges up tight. I tried this with a stock kernel as well: device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 yeilds: sio0: <3COM PCI FaxModem> port 0xec00-0xec07 irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 sio0: moving to sio4 sio4: type 16550A I've tried varying combos of the 'PnP BIOS' settings, to no avail. Of course, Win98 has no problem with the hardware, as-is. The idea of putting the modem on it's own IRQ (the workaround in the original PR) seems sound, but I'm being thwarted by this 'sio0: moving to sioN' behavior; I don't know why it's saying that, and I don't know which device I'm supposed to use for access afterward... 'sioN' seems to always resolve to a higher number than the number of sio devices I configured in my kernel. I'm seeing this problem described in a few other places: 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/freebsd-stable/msg05830.html 4.7-stable circa Oct 2002 http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/msg.php3?msg_id=10027753&list=152 but no one seems to be resolve it. Does anyone have any new advice on this matter? -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 16:21:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B07F37B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D919743ED4; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [64.49.215.141]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8902B8AA1A0; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:21:12 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:21:12 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Darren Pilgrim , "" , "" Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project In-Reply-To: <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20021217202030.M63985-100000@hub.org> References: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > : > :Matt Dillon wrote: > :> Thanks to my dear friend Warner Losh. I've decided to leave FreeBSD and > :> flame in another project. Maybe I could join OpenBSD, the seem to share > :> my views on how to deal with other people. > :> > :> I hereby give maintainership of all my code to Warner, or, whoever wants > :> it, for that matter. > : > :Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? > > Probably because I lambast him mercilessly for being such a whimp. It's > kinda sad, actually. He's probably not making any friends with the > people running the blind proxies he abuses to post, either. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > God, now this thread gave me a panic (and a heartattack) ... its funny how many times you can read someone's posts, and see their writing style, and still be sucker-punched:) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Dec 17 23: 3:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BA937B401; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.internet.dk (smtp.internet.dk [194.19.140.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765DB43EDC; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (0x50c48aec.adsl-fixed.tele.dk [80.196.138.236]) (authenticated) by smtp.internet.dk (8.11.6/8.11.6/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id gBI73Ai15935; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <007e01c2a663$86815070$6805a8c0@gina> From: "Leif Neland" To: "Darren Pilgrim" , "Matthew Dillon" Cc: , References: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> <200212171939.gBHJdVFR086954@apollo.backplane.com> <3DFFA1B9.8080704@pantherdragon.org> Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:03:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > : > > :Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) impersonate MD? > > > > Probably because I lambast him mercilessly for being such a whimp. It's > > kinda sad, actually. He's probably not making any friends with the > > people running the blind proxies he abuses to post, either. > > You know the person by name/alias, then? Who is it? > Probably not. Anybody who fakes messages fits the above category :-) Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 3:50:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7791737B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from gator.darkhorse.com (mail.darkhorse.com [209.95.33.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942D43ED1; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@dhmail.net) Received: from [63.242.157.226] (account ) by gator.darkhorse.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) with HTTP id 9546057; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:39 -0800 From: "Matt Dillon" Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project To: Darren Pilgrim , Matt Dillon Cc: current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:39 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:56:19 -0800 >Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) >impersonate MD? Unfortunately not. We do not yet know who this fake Dillon is (the guy posting from that backplane.com address) I've been working hard on the new ipfw[2] patch for 5.0, the new patch is released under the DPL. For those of you not familiar with it, here's the most important paragraph: The de Raadt Public License 1.0 Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. * FUCK YOU ALL ASSHOLES! 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I dunno why. I just do. I'm no expert, but it sits > right with me. It is a shame that due to people's socialization problems > that such a great operating system is regulated to the backwaters of the > OS oceans. > > I suggest some people realize that they have problems with dealing with > people--we are not computers in that certain inputs cannot guarantee > certain outputs--and perhaps seek therapy to improve their socialization > skills. > > That and $1.10 might buy you a cup a coffee. Yes, we need to embrace the trolls and stop marginalizing them. The Troll-man has been downtrodden for far too long, it is time for him to step into the light of society and be accepted for what he is...assuming they don't shrivel up and die in the light. 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I wouldn't be surprised at all. -Matt Matthew Dillon :... :Received: from gator.darkhorse.com (mail.darkhorse.com [209.95.33.140]) : by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP : id E942D43ED1; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:50 -0800 (PST) : (envelope-from dillon@dhmail.net) :Received: from [63.242.157.226] (account ) : by gator.darkhorse.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.5.9) : with HTTP id 9546057; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:39 -0800 :From: "Matt Dillon" :Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project :To: Darren Pilgrim , Matt Dillon :Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG :X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.9 :Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 03:50:39 -0800 :Message-ID: :In-Reply-To: <3DFF7353.4040003@pantherdragon.org> :MIME-Version: 1.0 :Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" :Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit :Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG :List-ID: :List-Archive: (Web Archive) :List-Help: (List Instructions) :List-Subscribe: :List-Unsubscribe: :X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Precedence: bulk : :On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:56:19 -0800 : :>Does anyone know why this person is trying to (poorly) :>impersonate MD? : :Unfortunately not. We do not yet know who this fake Dillon :is (the guy posting from that backplane.com address) : :I've been working hard on the new ipfw[2] patch for 5.0, :the new patch is released under the DPL. For those of you :not familiar with it, here's the most important paragraph: : :The de Raadt Public License 1.0 : :Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or :without modification, are permitted provided that the :following conditions are met: : : * Redistributions of source code must retain the :above copyright notice, : this list of conditions and the following :disclaimer. : * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce :the above copyright notice, : this list of conditions and the following :disclaimer in the documentation : and/or other materials provided with the :distribution. : * FUCK YOU ALL ASSHOLES! : :Take care, : Matthew Dillon : : :_____________________________ :For the best comics, toys, movies, and more, :please visit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 11:19:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0CE37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1E543EC2 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gBIJJKOM093130; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gBIJJKZd093129; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200212181919.gBIJJKZd093129@apollo.backplane.com> To: Jason Andresen Cc: David Nicholas Kayal , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project References: <3E00BC08.1020308@mitre.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Yes, we need to embrace the trolls and stop marginalizing them. The :Troll-man has been downtrodden for far too long, it is time for him to :step into the light of society and be accepted for what he is...assuming :they don't shrivel up and die in the light. I don't know about you, but :that's a risk I'm more than willing to take. : :-- : \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org Yes, we should pull the poor guy out of the closet, kicking and screaming if we must, for his own good :-) -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 13: 1:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2039E37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:01:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (mxzilla2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173BA43EDE for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wkb@xs4all.nl) Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl (xs1.xs4all.nl [194.109.3.11]) by mxzilla2.xs4all.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBIL1Qw6092523; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:01:26 +0100 (CET) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by xs1.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id gBIL1Qv87628; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:01:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:01:26 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Jason Andresen , David Nicholas Kayal , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project Message-ID: <20021218210126.GA87578@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl References: <3E00BC08.1020308@mitre.org> <200212181919.gBIJJKZd093129@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212181919.gBIJJKZd093129@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p19 X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:19:20AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Yes, we need to embrace the trolls and stop marginalizing them. The > :Troll-man has been downtrodden for far too long, it is time for him to > :step into the light of society and be accepted for what he is...assuming > :they don't shrivel up and die in the light. I don't know about you, but > :that's a risk I'm more than willing to take. > : > :-- > : \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org > > Yes, we should pull the poor guy out of the closet, kicking and screaming > if we must, for his own good :-) Stock up on tar and feathers.. ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 13:11:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EB837B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.isg.siue.edu (mail.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5054843EC5 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wgrim@cougar.isg.siue.edu) Received: from WEBSHIELD1.isg.siue.edu (webshield1.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.149]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14921 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:11:26 -0600 (CST) Received: FROM mail.isg.siue.edu BY WEBSHIELD1.isg.siue.edu ; Wed Dec 18 15:11:18 2002 -0600 Received: from cougar (cougar [146.163.5.29]) by mail.isg.siue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14598; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:11:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:11:14 -0600 (CST) From: William Michael Grim To: Matt Dillon Cc: wgrim@siue.edu, current@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I'm leaving the project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't care who hacked what; get over it, grow up, and move on. William Michael Grim Student, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Unix System Administrator, SIUE, Computer Science dept. Email: wgrim@siue.edu On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Matt Dillon wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:22:09 -0600 > wgrim@siue.edu wrote: > >You know, I hardly ever post here because I'm in the > >newbie stages of learning > >how the OS internals work, but you're really pissing me > >off. > > I don't care. > > >All you do is clog up my mail box, and I'm basically > >tired of your shit. > > I don't care. > > >EVERYONE on the list knows who the real Matt Dillon is; so, please, stfu. If > > I don't care. > > >Good day to you dipcrap, > >Faker Hater > > I don't know how old you are, or if you're just > dim. If that Dillon moron hadn't backed out my > good patches and started a flamewar over his > shitty ipfw fix, I would have never posted that > message. Now go and study The Design and > Implementation of 4.4BSD by Dr. McKusick. Until > you can tell ls from rm, get the fuck out of my > inbox. > > Yours, > Matt 'ipfw patch' Dillon > > _____________________________ > For the best comics, toys, movies, and more, > please visit > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 13:40:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C0237B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f111.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FD943EA9; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bbfst4wtsf253@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:38:13 -0800 Received: from 203.227.236.216 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:38:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.227.236.216] From: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?xMnGwyC4tg==?= To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?oaG6/LG4uK4gwfGwzLDUIMfRufggx8/A2i4uLiEh?= Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:38:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ks_c_5601-1987; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2002 21:38:13.0330 (UTC) FILETIME=[C46DAB20:01C2A6DD] Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG live10girls

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MSN ·Їєк http://www.msn.co.kr/love/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 13:44:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB5837B401; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:44:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from structbio.vanderbilt.edu (reef.structbio.Vanderbilt.Edu [160.129.138.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC8243E4A; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:44:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@dvalentine.com) Received: from taran ([160.129.135.95]) by structbio.vanderbilt.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id gBILkNhs022031; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:46:26 -0600 Received: from taran (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by taran (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBILDMVq001836; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:15:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bandix@taran) Received: (from bandix@localhost) by taran (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBILDM3k001835; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:13:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bandix) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:13:21 -0600 From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Matthew Dillon Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unwanted Spam 'Re: I'm leaving the project' Message-ID: <20021218211321.GC1725@taran.geekpunk.net> References: <200212181858.gBIIwxLU092955@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212181858.gBIIwxLU092955@apollo.backplane.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:58:59AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: > You know, whoever you are, you must lead a very sad, paranoid, > sit-in-the-corner-the-world-is-out-to-get-me life if you think you > are actually accomplishing something here. You are probably the > same idiot who posts all that anonymous-coward BSD-Is-Dying junk > to Slashdot. I wouldn't be surprised at all. For a much more in-depth analysis see my explanation from the last time one of these (and quite likely the very same) impersonators popped up on this list: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/FreeBSD/146/0/9367929/ Game on, Brandon D. Valentine -- brandon@dvalentine.com http:///www.geekpunk.net "Everyone's been sold American. Don't let me catch you laughing when the jukebox cries...Everything's been sold American. No place to go and brother, no place to stay." -- Kinky Friedman, "Sold American" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 18 14:13:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C5437B401 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4A243ED4 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ralf@fimaluka.org) Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OmRa-0002Kp-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:13:34 +0100 Received: from [217.82.40.221] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18OmRY-0001Da-00 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:13:32 +0100 Subject: fxp faults in FreeBSD-5.0RC1 From: Ralf-Philipp Weinmann To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 18 Dec 2002 23:13:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1040249606.1767.19.camel@bender.fimaluka.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just gave FreeBSD 5.0RC1 a spin on my new notebook, a Samsung P10 XTC (very similar to the MicronPC Transport T1000 sold in the US) and got bitten by a bug in the fxp driver which landed my in ddb land when trying to download and install ports: > Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc024db35 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xd67dacc0 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xd67dace0 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, IOPL = 0 > current process = 23 (irq11: cbb0 fxp0++) Doing a trace in ddb yield the following: > db> trace > cbb_intr(c1518a00,0,c04ca046,216,c406d760) at cbb_intr+0x45 > ithread_loop(c4051d00,d67dad48,c04c9ebb,35a,0) at ithread_loop+0x182 > fork_exit(c02da650,c4051d00,d67dad48) at fork_exit+0xa5 > fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x1a > --- trap 0x1, eip = 0, esp = 0xd67dad7c, ebp = 0 --- > db> fxp0: device timeout I'm also kind of confused why it's faulting in cbb_intr. Looking at the bus topology the NIC should be hanging off the PCI bridge and not off the CardBus bridge . Before writing this mail, I had a look at the CVS repository but was not able to find any new checkins for the fxp driver and the CardBus stuff (after the RC1 release). FreeBSD-4.7 seems to run fine on the machine, though I only did rather superficial testing. Can anyone help me with this one? I've also had a high success rate reproducing this failure by ping -f'ing my machine. Attached you find the dmesg as well as output from pciconf -l and devinfo -r. The kernel is the default one included on the 5.0-RC1 i386 ISOs. Cheers, Ralf <------------------- SNIP --------------------> Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.0-RC1 #0: Sat Dec 7 22:16:29 GMT 2002 root@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Preloaded elf kernel "/boot/kernel/kernel" at 0xc06b5000. Preloaded elf module "/boot/kernel/acpi.ko" at 0xc06b50a8. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 1196124752 Hz CPU: Pentium 4 (1196.12-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 Features=0xffffffffbfebf9ff> real memory = 267845632 (255 MB) avail memory = 252985344 (241 MB) Initializing GEOMetry subsystem Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface acpi0: on motherboard ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block0 defined as GPE0 to GPE15 ACPI-0625: *** Info: GPE Block1 defined as GPE16 to GPE31 ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_UNINITIALIZED_LOCAL Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdf40 acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model. Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE acpi_acad0: on acpi0 ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed, AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE acpi_cmbat0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button1: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xec000000-0xefffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 0.0 (no driver attached) uhci0: port 0x1800-0x181f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 10 at device 29.1 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib2 cbb0: at device 3.0 on pci2 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 pcib2: slot 3 INTA is routed to irq 11 pci2: at device 3.1 (no driver attached) fxp0: port 0x4000-0x403f mem 0xe8200000-0xe8200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:00:f0:76:12:70 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1860-0x186f,0-0x3,0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.6 (no driver attached) acpi_ec0: port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 fdc0: port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 ppc0 port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 drq 1 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 orm0: