From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 20 0:53: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE22C37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 00:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isis.basefreak.nl (isis.basefreak.nl [213.196.8.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CEBDE43E9C for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 00:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@cybercomm.nl) Received: (qmail 71104 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2002 07:52:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO basefreakwks) (213.196.13.146) by isis.basefreak.nl with SMTP; 20 Oct 2002 07:52:57 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Marcel ten Berg" To: Subject: Setting up a mirrorsite Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:54:59 +0200 Organization: Cybercomm B.V. Message-ID: <025701c2780d$fcf13790$04021fac@basefreakwks> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Im already running a not official freebsd-cvsup mirror but would like to make it official. Can you tell me if there are more mirrors needed in the Netherlands ? Met vriendelijke groet/With kind regards, Marcel ten Berg Cybercomm internet marcel@cybercomm.nl MTB1308-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 20 5:56:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC9737B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 05:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from visor.qala.com.sg (visor.qala.com.sg [210.193.2.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8485C43E9E for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 05:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net) Received: from spam.averse.net (mirror [210.193.6.237] (may be forged)) by visor.qala.com.sg (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g9KCuBA12284; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:56:13 +0800 (SGT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:56:12 +0800 (SGT) From: mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net X-X-Sender: pyng@spam.averse.net To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Wilko Bulte , jason andrade , Subject: Re: ftp-master access to HP-internal ftp mirror? In-Reply-To: <20021019210052.GD7186@xor.obsecurity.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 05:18:13PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > That was my thinking, yes. This guy also runs the testdrive.[hp,compaq].com > > machines, and that same group has supplied quite some Alpha machines to > > FreeBSD.org > > I have to admit I'm slightly biased, as I A. work for > > Digital^WCompaq^WHP and B. was instrumental in getting HPQ to donate > > the machines. > Sounds fine to me. I have no problems with rewarding companies who > donate significant resources to support FreeBSD. Indeed; I was unaware of how much hp contributes, and that wasn't explicit in his mail ;) If they feel that they do need direct access or require freshness better than that achievable (one hours?) by mirroring from one of the "tier 1" mirrors, by all means. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 20 6:28:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2252337B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 06:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F148243E88 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 06:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F9A24D38 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:28:16 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1F324D06 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:28:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2::130]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116B1E460E for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:28:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:28:09 +0900 Message-ID: <7mwuod5jfa.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Subject: Re: ftp-master access to HP-internal ftp mirror? In-Reply-To: References: <20021019210052.GD7186@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.9.10 (Unchained Melody) SEMI/1.14.4 (Hosorogi) FLIM/1.14.4 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Kashiharajing=FE-mae?=) APEL/10.4 Emacs/21.2 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.4 - "Hosorogi") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS on ns.imgsrc.co.jp Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:56:12 +0800 (SGT), mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net wrote: > Indeed; I was unaware of how much hp contributes, and that wasn't explicit > in his mail ;) If they feel that they do need direct access or require > freshness better than that achievable (one hours?) by mirroring from one > of the "tier 1" mirrors, by all means. I think we should have ftp-master.us.FreeBSD.org which is dedicated for tier 2 and important contributors (such as HP?) in U.S. I don't know ftp-master.FreeBSD.org is suffered by whether network or disk i/o. But accepting everyone to original ftp-master doesn't seem to be correct way. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 20 14: 1:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589C637B401; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tenchi.dreamlabs.com (tenchi.dreamlabs.com [216.220.37.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E962A43E8A; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mit@dreamlabs.com) Received: from shadow (unknown [65.48.152.81]) by tenchi.dreamlabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22515390BFA; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe" To: Cc: Subject: ca.freebsd.org Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 17:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c2787b$cc24f5c0$51983041@shadow> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello main FreeBSD hostmaster! I see that ca.freebsd.org is still delegated to gw.esys.ca... Can you please fix the delegation so that it is *only* ns1.dreamlabs.com ns2.dreamlabs.com ns3.dreamlabs.com Thanks, Mit __________________________________________________________ Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe DreamLabs.com/Mitayai.Net, Inc. 251A Gerrard Street East Toronto, ON M5A 2G1 Canada ph: 1.888.744.3306 fax: 1.888.717.1113 web: http://www.dreamlabs.com/ email: support@dreamlabs.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Oct 20 14:24:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4BF37B401 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318F543E77 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC142A88D; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:24:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ftp-master access to HP-internal ftp mirror? In-Reply-To: <7mwuod5jfa.wl@black.imgsrc.co.jp> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 14:24:46 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20021020212446.1BC142A88D@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jun Kuriyama wrote: > At Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:56:12 +0800 (SGT), > mirror-maintainer@mirror.averse.net wrote: > > Indeed; I was unaware of how much hp contributes, and that wasn't explicit > > in his mail ;) If they feel that they do need direct access or require > > freshness better than that achievable (one hours?) by mirroring from one > > of the "tier 1" mirrors, by all means. > > I think we should have ftp-master.us.FreeBSD.org which is dedicated > for tier 2 and important contributors (such as HP?) in U.S. > > I don't know ftp-master.FreeBSD.org is suffered by whether network or > disk i/o. But accepting everyone to original ftp-master doesn't seem > to be correct way. Memory. It only has 2G of ram, and when rsyncd takes 100MB+ per process, and when it takes days to push 30 concurrent seperate copies of new releases and package builds to poorly connected places. The memory adds up. The machine swaps and slows down the better connected machines. I'd really like to restrict access to ftp-master to no more than about a dozen or so well-connected sites who also participate in providing exact mirror replication to everybody else (via either cvsup or rsync to ensure proper permissions and checksums etc). The idea is to get changes out *as fast as possible* to those machines who can then fan it out to the rest of the mirrors. This should dramatically improve the efficiency and scalability of getting stuff out there. I just dont have the time to organize it. I've spoken with some folks who have demonstrated that they have the time and patience to keep track of all this and who is doing what etc. You know who you are. :-) I guess I should follow up on it. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Oct 21 9:55:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1945E37B401; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.freebsdmall.com (ns1.freebsdmall.com [66.220.2.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C982943E42; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from murray@freebsdmall.com) Received: by mail.freebsdmall.com (Postfix, from userid 2074) id D3B542E8A3; Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:30 -0700 From: Murray Stokely To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Cc: re@FreeBSD.org Subject: Uploaded new 5.0-CURRENT snapshot. Message-ID: <20021021095529.A37185@freebsdmall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI, I've uploaded a new -CURRENT snapshot into /pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.0-20021021-SNAP/ - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Oct 22 7:34: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FCB37B401 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caravela.pgie.ufrgs.br (caravela.pgie.ufrgs.br [200.132.0.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88E143E9C for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrey@pop-rs.rnp.br) Received: from pegasus.pop-rs.rnp.br (pegasus.pop-rs.rnp.br [200.132.0.93]) by caravela.pgie.ufrgs.br (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g9MEdIf11379 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:39:18 -0200 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021022113239.0216a4a8@caravela.pgie.ufrgs.br> X-Sender: andrey@caravela.pgie.ufrgs.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:33:15 -0200 To: hubs@freebsd.org From: Andrey Vedana Andreoli Subject: Possible mirror changes in Brazil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear hostmaster, We administrates the server 200.132.0.68 (ftp2.br.freebsd.org) that mirrors= =20 the ftp site of FreeBSD. In Brazil, there are some mirrors, but nobody synchronizes on the=20 rsync://ftp-master.freebsd.org/. We contacted the hostmaster@br.freebsd.org= =20 to obtain this information. Recently, we upgraded our server to a Gateway with 4 processors XEON=20 Pentium III 700Mhz, 1GB RAM, 100GB HD. Our intention is to apply for to obtain access to ftp-master as primary=20 mirror and distribute to other mirrors and users of Brasil. At this moment we are synchronizing at rsync://ftp.cz.freebsd.org/. Is it possible? What=B4s the requirements ? Our intention is increase the=20 quality of FreeBSD mirrors in Brazil.. We wait your response, Best regards, Andrey Vedana Andreoli To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 23 10: 0:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1AA37B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (office.sbnd.net [217.75.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 288D443E4A for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@straylight.ringlet.net) Received: (qmail 21446 invoked by uid 1000); 23 Oct 2002 17:00:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:00:02 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems sending e-mail to hostmaster@ addresses Message-ID: <20021023170002.GM368@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: hubs@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, A couple of minutes ago, I sent off a couple of messages to several hostmaster@ addresses of *.FreeBSD.org subdomains, asking about maintainer addresses for the CVSup mirrors that have not yet been mentioned in the documentation. The following addresses bounced: hostmaster@dk.FreeBSD.org hostmaster@pl.FreeBSD.org - 550 Policy rejection on the target address hostmaster@kr.FreeBSD.org - 550 Message content rejected And yes, I did try to send messages that were not PGP-signed after the initial failure; it did not seem to make any difference. Any idea how to contact those hostmaster@ addresses - or *whom* should I contact instead? G'luck, Peter --=20 Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 I am jealous of the first word in this sentence. --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE9ttWS7Ri2jRYZRVMRArUKAJ49EiDH8qn7ijlE9WVqrDxMFm4ecgCeMaYI 2Kn6edTXzlh48NA7Eqe9ffg= =ZZ/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qD3brAgIG4LbUq6d-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Oct 23 10: 9:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3001037B401 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [217.21.68.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D8E43E3B for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: (from root@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5) id g9NH9Cl0070254; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:09:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.5av) with ESMTP id g9NH9BM2070245; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:09:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id g9NH9AZZ070242; Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:09:10 +0300 (EEST) X-Authentication-Warning: finland.ispro.net.tr: yurtesen owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 20:09:10 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Peter Pentchev Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems sending e-mail to hostmaster@ addresses In-Reply-To: <20021023170002.GM368@straylight.oblivion.bg> Message-ID: <20021023200826.U65996-100000@finland.ispro.net.tr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by IsproNET Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org why dont you look from ripe, the owner of the ip blocks and send email to them? there is high possibility that these people own those blocks =) Evren On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Hi, > > A couple of minutes ago, I sent off a couple of messages to several > hostmaster@ addresses of *.FreeBSD.org subdomains, asking about > maintainer addresses for the CVSup mirrors that have not yet been > mentioned in the documentation. > > The following addresses bounced: > > hostmaster@dk.FreeBSD.org > hostmaster@pl.FreeBSD.org - 550 Policy rejection on the target address > hostmaster@kr.FreeBSD.org - 550 Message content rejected > > And yes, I did try to send messages that were not PGP-signed after > the initial failure; it did not seem to make any difference. > > Any idea how to contact those hostmaster@ addresses - or *whom* should > I contact instead? > > G'luck, > Peter > > -- > Peter Pentchev roam@ringlet.net roam@FreeBSD.org > PGP key: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~roam/roam.key.asc > Key fingerprint FDBA FD79 C26F 3C51 C95E DF9E ED18 B68D 1619 4553 > I am jealous of the first word in this sentence. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message