From owner-freebsd-isdn Sun Feb 17 6:17:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22BA737B421 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6950 invoked by uid 0); 17 Feb 2002 14:17:06 -0000 Received: from pd9508801.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO mail.gsinet.sittig.org) (217.80.136.1) by mail.gmx.net (mp014-rz3) with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 14:17:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22503 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 11:16:32 -0000 Received: from shell.gsinet.sittig.org (192.168.11.153) by mail.gsinet.sittig.org with SMTP; 17 Feb 2002 11:16:32 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by shell.gsinet.sittig.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g1HBGR522490 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:16:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sittig) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:16:27 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: ISDN Mailinglist Subject: Re: subaddr implementation Message-ID: <20020217121627.V1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> Mail-Followup-To: ISDN Mailinglist References: <000b01c1b6ff$9ee380b0$0200a8c0@coyote> <200202162210.g1GMABE21161@peedub.jennejohn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200202162210.g1GMABE21161@peedub.jennejohn.org>; from garyj@jennejohn.org on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:10:11PM +0100 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ OT for -isdn, feel free to ignore this, to not reply or to reply by means of PM. Thank you! ] On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 23:10 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > "Steven Looman" writes: > > > > [ FreeBSD "gone" (not bootable) after installing Win* ] > > You installed winxp _after_ you installed FBSD ? BIG mistake !!! > I did something similar once. Winblows merrily overwrites all the > partition information. I think I ended up having to reinstall > FBSD. Wait! It doesn't have to be this bad! Although MS is known for the "every PC runs Win" and the "Win installations are the only system on a computer, there cannot be anything else to make sense" attitudes, only the "smaller" Windows versions are really sick in this respect. But the NT versions somehow could vaguely imagine that there can be something else. And they can even be taught to cooperate with a second, third, ... system. :) To cut it short: most MS installations "only" overwrite your boot sequence (because you don't want to choose when you install MS software, do you?). So I suggest you start a live system or a rescue (fixit) floppy/image and run "fdisk", "disklabel -r", "mount -o" and the other navigation commands to check if your partitions are still there and hold the data you would like them to. Hooking an OpenSource UNIX into the NT boot loader always has been as easy as "dd bs=512 count=1" your UNIX' boot partition to a regular file on the MS partition and adding another menu option to the boot.ini file. Only when you insist in running LILO you either have to mirror this boot block again after running the lilo command (i.e. rebuilding and installing your kernel) or you have to point lilo.conf to the mirrored file instead of the MBR / partition boot record on disk (that would be what I would call more natural, since you boot Linux from the NT loader and not from BIOS). I've never seen a machine with both NT and FreeBSD on them (all of my machines are dedicated to FreeBSD only), but I guess there's no difference here. It doesn't seem to matter how you get to the partition's boot record, as long as you finally do somehow. After that FreeBSD should startup fine as it usually does. But if you "installed" from an OEM recovery CD that's a totally different matter: These don't install something but merely mirror back an image to your harddrive just like they do in their plant when filling an empty disk with what comes bundled when you unpack your PC after the purchase. That's when all hope is lost (even "fixing" your running Windows this way makes you lose all your data and applications which didn't come with the recovery media, i.e. from the hardware vendor). But you wouldn't confuse a recovery CD with an installation or rescue system, would you? virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message